The Adam Mockler Show - Trump's COVER UP just got BLOWN WIDE OPEN!
Episode Date: February 14, 2026Adam Mockler and @mike_nellis break down the Trump admin's intense cover up of the files. Click below for premium Adam Mockler content 👉 https://www.youtube.com/@adammockler/join 👉 https://...adammockler.com JOIN THE COMMUNITY: Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamMockler/ Discord: https://discord.gg/y9yzMU3Gff Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adammockler/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/adammockler.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/adammocklerr/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adammockler Contact: contact@mocklermedia.com Business inquiries: adammocklerteam@unitedtalent.com Adam Mockler - Mockler Media LLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So, Adam, I want to start with Bondi
because this has been what's pissing me off this week.
I don't think I've ever seen a more disturbing
and disgusting display of a powerful individual
of treating such a serious issue
with no respect for the victims,
no respect for the crime, just such immaturity.
I don't know how else to describe it.
And I want to get your reaction to what Bondi did
in front of the House Judiciary Committee.
Yeah, so she did a similar testimony in October
where she quite literally just read off of a script,
a bunch of ad-hamun and insults towards every single Democrat that was there.
This one was a bit different.
Like, in a sense that she slowed down, she was talking a little bit slower, but still being
completely disrespectful and honestly a jackass.
There was a really great moment where Representative Pramila Jayapal had the survivors stand up
and identify themselves.
And after Pam Bondi said that anyone had access to the DOJ to ask any questions, Jayapal
asks, raise your hand if you haven't had access to the DOJ, if you haven't been able to ask
them questions or communicate with them and they all raise their hands in unison so pan bondi
kind of exposed herself right there as not only blocking the survivors the victims from being able
to access the DOJ but just being a liar on the stand there was a there was clearly a performance
for an audience of one happening where Donald Trump was watching pam bondi was trying to play to
him but even beyond that i think that i think that she it's interesting i saw an ad from
Pam Bondi when she was running for the Florida Attorney General.
And her entire campaign was based off of sexual abuse of children and stopping child predators.
And that was her whole thing.
That was going to be her legacy before Trump took office.
So I can imagine a reality where just like a reality where Marco Rubio used to be very pro-NATO,
pro-democracy, and now he kind of talks a different tune, even though he believes something else.
I can imagine a reality where Pam Bondi probably did actually try to fight child sex traffickers
is a decade or two back when she was running.
And now she's completely beholden to the swamp.
She has become the swamp.
She is covering up for the Epstein class.
And it's very, very sickening to see.
I want to get your opinion.
And then I also want to talk a little bit about the surveillance
of Representative Primalajaya Paul.
Because did you see the photo where she's holding up a list?
I did.
The search history in the Epstein terminal.
They were tracking.
It's insane.
It's insane.
Yeah.
So, you know, Pam Bondi's conduct was completely,
unbecoming and disgusting to me because I think it's really important when we talk about the Epstein cover-up
and when we talk about these crimes is they're treating these people with such disrespect,
but every single day you have a thousand little girls and boys who have been abused,
who are just trying to get some attention and accountability and some justice from their own government,
and their government could not be more disrespectful to them. And that spans, in my opinion,
multiple administrations because I don't think this is a partisan issue. I question what Biden's DOJ was doing with these files.
I question what Trump's DOJ is doing now with this information as they keep covering it up.
And it's really, it's sickening.
I don't know what else other word to describe is just really sickening.
On the burn book with Pam Bondi and then her surveilling on the Democratic members,
I thought that was also an extreme violation of the relationship between the executive branch
and the DOJ and Congress.
Like, Congress passed a law to require the DOJ to give them access to these files,
to have them released to the public, which they have still not fully done.
They're claiming even with the five.
that they let Primal Ajayapol and Jimmy Raskin and Thomas Massey and the rest of them look at,
they're claiming they're fully unredacted.
They're still 70, 80% blacked out because all that they did, this is according to Rokana,
was they took the files from the FBI, and the FBI blacked out 70% of them, sent them to the DOJ,
and then they uploaded them to four computers that members of Congress have access to.
So everything about this is so disturbing, and what are they covering up?
Because what we know is beyond the pale of the abuse.
of little kids and the accusations of now murder and violence, but I worry about what else is in there.
And they're not just covering up, you know, they claim they're covering up like child pornography
and they claim they're covering up victims' information. But no, they're covering up the names of
the perpetrators of these crimes. And Rokana and Thomas Massey have been calling them out over and
over and over again. They've had to unredact a couple ones, like the one about the, was it
the member of the royal family in Saudi Arabia was being punished right now? So it's just,
I don't understand what our government is doing right now, except for protecting pedophiles.
Like, that's all that it is. It is an inverse of reality.
when they are forgetting, quote, forgetting to redact the names of victims and over-redacting the names of the perpetrators.
All while doing this, they are surveilling the American people in multiple ways.
I mean, it's important to remember one year ago, Elon Musk and his doge go,
we're raiding the Social Security Administration and other buildings and gathering data about American citizens has been proven.
Over the past year, Palantir has been building a larger and larger surveillance state that goes from the,
the bottom of the most vulnerable Americans
who need some sort of
health care or Medicare or Medicaid
to the very top are representatives
like Representative Primaloghya-Paul
who yesterday did a bunch of interviews
saying they are spying on our logs
in the Epstein terminals. Even Republican
representative Nancy Mace said
that she knows they have been spying on
everything she does in these
Epstein file terminals that they log into
because they give them the passcode.
So think about how
1984-esque this is.
Pam Bondi is the one who gives them the passcode.
They log in, but under the surveillance of Big Brother Pam Bondi, and nobody is safe.
They are probably also surveilling what we look up about the Epstein files.
And it's because this government wants to cover up for the Epstein class.
I think that's a really, really great just messaging wise when John Alsuff and was it Rochana that coined that?
I can't remember.
Yeah, Rocahnah's first time I heard it, I feel like John Ossoff popularized it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's been getting bigger and bigger.
I mean, Rokana definitely cooked with that one.
And it's true.
It really shows a divide between people and power, mainly men, but also some women, who aren't held accountable oftentimes, versus the rest of Americans who probably get caught speeding and have larger consequences than most people who went to Epstein's Island.
Right.
If you're living paycheck to paycheck and you get caught speeding and that's 600 bucks, you're cooked, you're behind, you're screwed, you're bound and food.
That, like, ruins your life.
Now, if you're a billionaire who gets caught in the Epstein files, just hire a PR firm and don't talk about it.
Well, and think about like all these people who get caught up in like a three strikes law that the Republicans love to talk about where you do, you know, three relatively minor crimes and suddenly you're a felon and you can't vote for the rest of your life.
So the way this system works is it's very punitive to people who commit, you know, what I would describe like as a petty theft, right?
You steal a Twix bar or two or a pair of socks at a Walmart because you're desperate.
And then now suddenly you're a felon and the whole system looks down at you.
but you can be Howard Lutnik and you can take your family to the known island of a of a registered
sex offender and be the Commerce Secretary and face no consequences for that.
And the way I've been framing this, and I'm going to tell you, like, John Osav's speech may have
rewired my brain a little bit because I've spent so much time in my career complaining about
corrupt billionaires taking advantage of the vast majority of Americans, and that's still right.
But I've changed my framing on this in its entirety.
There are two classes of people in this country.
there's the Epstein class and it's Defenders,
which is all these MAGA influencers.
Like, I don't know if you saw the thing
with me and Clay Travis this week
where like me and Isaiah Martin,
just a...
Out of him on peers.
But there's the Epstein class
and there's everybody else.
And so I'm letting all the ghosts of the past go away.
I don't care of who you voted for in 24.
I don't care who you voted for in 2016.
Like, I don't want to fight with anybody
about Hillary Clinton versus Bernie Sanders anymore.
I'm done with all of that stuff,
and I'm going to reject anybody
who wants to talk with me about it.
because we need to break the Epstein class.
Not just because they're praying on kids
and they feel like they can get away with stuff,
but the Epstein class is the same group of people
who got away with crimes during the Wall Street financial crisis
when they destroyed people's lives.
Tens of millions of Americans lost their home and lost their jobs.
It's the same group of people that Donald Trump cut taxes for
in his budget bill last year while everything's getting more expensive.
It's the same group of people on and on and on again
that always win no matter who's in power,
Democrat or Republican, and they have to be beat.
because we're never going to get back to a place where the average American family can buy a house and take care of their kids and take a goddamn vacation and retire on a single income, which is what should be happening.
That's what was happening in the 50s and 60s.
And what's amazing about Republican nostalgia to me is they're nostalgic for everything about the 50s except for a family being able to live on a single income.
If we can't get back to that, I think this country will fall apart.
And the way we have to do that is to break right through the Epstein class.
And I'll work with anybody, anybody who stands up for that, whether it's Nancy Mace or Marjorie Taylor Green,
or Thomas Massey, people who drive me crazy.
Okay, they drive me crazy on politics,
but I will work with them to break this class
because they have got to go.
And Suzanne in the comments says,
Get rid of Citizens United.
She's absolutely right.
Very, very right there.
I think that, yeah, as a young dude
who sees a lot of my friends,
my age, posting about the Epstein files
and posting about the Epstein class
and now, you know,
through our formative years,
seeing that there is a huge divide in America
and what you can get away with
if you're a rich man in power,
I think that this will be a breakthrough.
I think that as generation shift and as, you know,
even like you're still incredibly young,
your generation isn't even fully in power.
We're still ruled by people like twice your age,
twice, three times, four times my age.
So as the average member of Congress is 68, Adam.
Yep, that is wild.
And if you, I have a stat here.
We live in Chicago.
The average age of a voter in Chicago is 53,
but the average population age is like 13, 14 years lower
at 40 years old.
That means young people are systematically underrepresented in positions of power.
But I think that this is a, what do you call it?
Like, inertia breaker.
Like, this is going to break through in such a way where young people will flip their view
and understand that we don't want these assholes in power.
We don't want these people who, like Donald Trump as a role model, just from a broad view,
is the worst role model that anybody could ask for.
As a young person, you always want to be able to look up to the president for some sort
of clarity, some sort of guidance.
Biden provided that. Obama provided that. Trump is an absolute asshole, and his cabinet is full of people who are absolute assholes. I keep making this joke. It feels like in order to be in the Trump admin, it's almost a prerequisite to be in the Epstein files at this point because Elon Musk had a 120-day position and he was found out to be straight up lying. He said he rejected an invite to the island, but he was the one who asked to go and Epstein was the one who just decided to back off and didn't arrange it. Howard Lutnik.
Of course, this is the big one.
He said that he rejected going to the island,
that he never talked to him again after 2005,
would never let his family around this creep.
Then we learn that after Epstein got this plea deal in 2008,
Howard Lutnik still brought his entire family to Epstein's island in,
what was it, 2012, which is still 2011, 2012,
which is still insane.
Four years after he became a registered sex.
Exactly.
Brought his entire family.
Okay, well, how about Donald Trump's new pick for the Fed share?
We found out that he was littered throughout the Epstein files.
Is part of the resume when you apply for the Trump admin?
Like, was the 2020 election stolen?
Are you in the Epstein files?
And will you say yes to anything, Trump?
And everyone is like, yes, yes, yes.
I think some of it has to do with one.
There's that class of people that support one another.
And again, I can't emphasize this enough.
There are a lot of Democrats in those files, too.
And I will burn the entire Democratic Party to the ground to get rid of anybody who had any relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
like the former White House senior counsel who resigned from Goldman Sachs.
Was that yesterday or the day before?
Like, I'm grateful to see some measure of accountability, although I find it awfully frustrating
that the two most visible people in the United States that have been held accountable
for Jeffrey Epstein's crimes are women, which is Jolaine Maxwell.
And I believe her name is Kathy Rumler might have been her name, or Katha Catherine.
I apologize if I got that wrong.
But it's all of these people, but I want to add a couple other names because I think it's
important here, which is who created the MAGA movement.
It wasn't Donald Trump.
it was Steve Bannon.
And Steve Bannon is all over the Epstein files.
He's the one who weave together this group of different coalitions,
QAnon and the MAGA base,
or excuse me,
like the Tea Party base and turn it into this thing that it is.
He's the one who got all of these influencers and content creators behind him.
He's the inventor of like Libs of TikTok and all this other stuff.
It's partly why,
I don't know if you follow.
There's an X account called CatTurd.
And CatTurt is very big.
And the algorithm loves them,
with him.
I think it's a guy on Twitter.
and he's turning on Steve Bannon right now.
And I think it's partly because these guys are pissed that he's all over the Epstein files.
So he's one of the lynch pins that holds it all together.
And as his power and influence wanes, I think it's important.
And I want to add one more thing on Pam Bondi, too,
because earlier you brought up her TV ads where she was talking about, you know,
taking on, you know, child sex predators and stuff like that.
I think Pam Bondi has been full of shit this entire time.
Because in 2008, Alex Acosta made that sweetheart deal for Jeffrey Epstein
that let him register as a sex offender,
basically carry on with his operations and face no serious jail time.
It could have been stopped right then in 2008.
And the damage would have been bad, but it wouldn't have grown to what it is today
where it's a international scandal at this point.
But Pam Bondi didn't step in to stop that.
Pam Bondi didn't speak out about it.
And part of the reason I think Trump picked Pam Bondi was first because he couldn't get his
first choice, who was Matt Gates, who is himself a pedophile and should be a registered
sex offender for taking an underage girl across state lines to have sex with her.
And by the way, paying for her braces so that he could have.
have sex with her, which is like a bizarre story.
She's like working at me. It's a really sad story.
She was like working at a McDonald's and he paid for a brink.
It's just so, it's really gross.
But like, but also because he can control her.
So like she has nowhere to run.
And now all these people are just, he's got them all under his thumb now.
So that they'll do whatever they want for proximity to power and corruption and money.
And it's just, it's just disgusting.
I feel like it just always ended by being as disgusting.
But I have no, nothing else to say it.
So I actually agree with your analysis on Pam Bondi.
Absolutely.
That is why Trump picked her because he knew that she would.
cover up for this. I think it even goes deeper than that as well. You pointed this out,
but people forget that Mike Johnson isn't just covering up for the Epstein class, isn't just covering
up the Epstein files. We didn't just have to put a discharge petition up to pry it out of
his draws. But a year ago, maybe a year two ago, Representative Matt Gates from Florida
had his investigation basically covered up by Mike Johnson, who was trying to not let the
oversight committee release their report.
was a panel that was investigating
Representative Matt Gates. They found some wild
stuff at the DOJ. Mike Johnson
was holding that, stopping that from
releasing. So think about all these men from
Florida. We have Donald Trump
from Florida, who's clearly littered throughout the
Epstein files. Jeffrey Epstein, littered
throughout the Epstein files. Representative
Matt Gates, too young to be in the
Epstein files, but still created his own
sort of network, as the investigation
showed. And then even James
Fishback, this gubernatorial candidate who is
far, far right, has allegedly slapped some
17-year-old and got kicked out of some like teaching thing that he was doing when he was 30 years old.
It's it's all absurd and it's very clear which party prioritizes the children.
But that is why they try to focus on all of these misnomer issue.
They try to talk about trans people or gay people and try to direct your attention over there.
Because if you look at the Republican Party, if you look at the people within this party, the people in power,
they're not a, they're not beacons of, of, let's say, purity.
No. No, they're horrible people. And like, why do you think, why do you think they went all in on Bad Bunny and his halftime show last week? It was to keep you distracted. And then by the way, who did they pick to headline their halftime show, Kid Rock, who much like Donald Trump in the 90s, spends a lot of time talking about having sex with underage girls. So these are just disgusting people who have no bottom and they will protect one another. And I'm tired of it. Even like Nikki Minaj, Nikki Minaj is like their new play thing where they like to drag her out and be like, look how cool. And
pop culturally relevant, the MAGA movement is now that Nikki Minaj is with us. But why is
Nikki Minaj hanging out with Donald Trump? Well, one, she's on the verge of losing her $10 million
mansion after losing a lawsuit. But two, her husband needs a pardon for having sex with an underage
girl at night point, I believe. And her brother is in prison right now for like 25 years for having sex
with an underage girl. So she needs the Trump administration to step into save her. And suddenly
she's found her MAGA voice. Suddenly she's a part of the movement. So it is a group of people who are
only self-interested, they are never going to put forward a solution that is going to improve your
lives. And say what you will about the Democratic Party. It is a deeply flawed institution. It pisses
me off. But it is the only party in America that gives a shit, one about the Epstein files,
but it is the only political party that cares whether you have a good paying job. You can take
care of your family. You can send your kids to college. You can take a vacation. You can retire
with dignity. And I'll take that over anything else. And I'll keep pushing them to be better when we
win in 2026 and when we win in 2028. Absolutely. And I just want to kind of
wrap this up by by talking about how much what you said right there is exactly how the
Democrats need to be messaging for the past decade we've been unified around our opposition
to Donald Trump which is not hard to do Trump is an absolute loon I cover him every day and
it's important to cover him and make sure that everybody is aware of what he's saying but the
Democratic Party needs to at some point have our own forward-looking message as you just laid out
for example Micah and I you know Micah are fine yeah we we chatted a bit at your studio actually
We had dinner at the Italian restaurant.
Yeah, that was so great.
That was such a good dinner as well right after.
Yeah, so it's like we're laying on a project 2029, so to speak, where we want to make
sure that dark money, special interest groups are blocked out of politics.
We want to make sure that 160 loopholes for billionaires are closed.
These tax loopholes don't require us increasing taxes.
They're not even a hard sell.
It's just closing some of these loopholes to make sure we raise more revenue.
We could raise an extra trillion dollars.
And there's ways that we can sell our agenda to help the average American,
but Democrats just need to be out there messaging.
We have a lot of rising stars in the party right now.
I really like lately James Telerico's campaign has been really, really great.
He had a good ad that came out.
John Alsuff, as we mentioned multiple times, amazing operator.
J.B. Pritzker, the great governor of our state, really great.
He's been talking about abolishing ice.
he's been talking about taxing people more.
He's been really, really living up to the moment.
I agree.
I mean, I'll also shout out, I mean, I think the two best federal candidates
that I have gotten a chance to interview on the show,
and I'll be honest with everybody, I work with both of them too.
But it's Mallory McMorrow, who was running for Senate in Michigan.
I think she's an incredible young, Democratic rising star,
taking on the establishment, and I think she's going to win that primary.
And the other one is Paige Cognetti.
And I encourage people to, like, go watch my interview with her if you get a chance
because she's the mayor of Scranton, Pennsylvania,
which is my parents' hometown.
So I've spent a lot of time there.
And there used to be this very corrupt Democratic machine
that basically dragged Scranton into the ground.
Scranton is an old dying coal town,
very famously parodied on the office, right,
for being a sort of like dead place to live.
But she broke this political machine,
ran as an independent.
One, is now a Democrat,
and she's taking on one of the most corrupt Republican members of Congress.
And we need more fighters like that.
And so when I think through,
what are the things that we need to succeed?
need the right messenger and we need the right strategy and we have to update our campaigns. Like,
you hear Democrats talk about that 90% of the time. But I think there's a big picture theme here.
We need two things that people are going to see from the Democratic Party and that they're going to
buy in and believe. And to me, it's we have to have the largest series of economically populist
policies that the Democratic Party has put together since FDR was president of the United States.
Because that is how bad the economy is right now. And it's going to get even worse with AI and robotics,
which are not going to go away. So we have to make sure that we create the conditions for people,
to have good paying jobs, but have a social safety net that protects them.
Nobody goes bankrupt, but they get sick.
People can take care of their kids.
People don't have to spend $30,000 send their kids to daycare if we're going to require
both parents in a family to work.
We need to get really deep into that.
We need to help people who are in the millennial class in particular who are taking care
of their aging parents and taking care of their kids because it's completely screwed up.
We need to forgive student loan debt and keep going.
And then one final thought here, too, is the second half of that.
And this is why I really like John Ossoff in the way that he's talking about it right now,
is we have to run on the most aggressive anti-corruption platform that any political party has had since Teddy Roosevelt was president.
So I'm doing a big Roosevelt thing right now.
But we have to bust every single person.
We got to break up these monopolies.
We got to take down the Epstein class.
And we got to deal with the rot inside the Democratic Party.
There's a ton of insider trading inside the Democratic Party.
The Republicans are worse.
But we have to clean up our own house if people are going to take us seriously on corruption because Trump gets points from the average American for his corruption because it's so brazen.
They'll go, well, at least he's honest about it.
You know, so and so on the Democratic Party, so they're not honest about it.
And I don't agree with that, but like, we have to deal with it ourselves.
And we've got to deal with big money and we got to pack.
We might have to pack the Supreme Court.
I think we have to do that stuff to fix this.
So we got to be, we got to be severe here.
Absolutely.
I totally agree.
And I'm excited to, I'm excited to see the ideological battle that plays out in the Democratic primary.
It's going to be interesting.
It's also worth mentioning AOC and Gavin Newsom were in Munich yesterday,
representing the United States
in a way that Trump never could.
AOC was very well-spoken, as always,
just amazingly cogent on her analysis
of where politics in the United States is going.
And Governor Newsom was, let's say, a knife fighter.
He always goes, and he is stern, assertive,
and he really does a good job of matching the energy
that Trump brings.
He didn't bring knee pads this time,
but he was giving some strong words.
So I think we've got a lot of players
in our party who are meeting the moment.
And so we just have to continue to shape it in the way that we want.
We are the voters.
We have the power.
We need to take the power away from the special interest groups.
And yeah.
I agree.
I thought AOC did an amazing job yesterday.
And we have an abundance of candidates.
And to me, the most important thing for 28 is that we have a big, messy, ideologically
diverse democratic primary.
And we let the people decide because the two times we lost to Donald Trump, we didn't have big
primaries.
No knock on Hillary Clinton.
I love her to death.
But like her versus Bernie was not a full vibrant primary.
We should have had 12 people who were running to succeed Barack Obama at a serious level.
It's good for the party and let the people decide.
That's what happened in 2007 and 2008.
And we selected Barack Obama, who is by far, in my opinion, the best political talent that I have seen in my entire lifetime.
So, let's do that again and give a chance for somebody to rise up.
Because right now, Newsom and AOC and a couple others, they're the frontrunners, but they might not be the nominee.
I want to know if there's somebody out there who could rise to the moment, and I want to give them that chance.
Absolutely.
I think Raphael Warnock from Georgia.
Yeah.
He's an underdog.
He's a, what do they call it, a hidden gem?
Or he's, he's a dark horse.
That's what they say.
Yeah, he's going to emerge.
Yeah, I always use the framework.
Like in 2006, if you asked who would be the nominee,
most people in the Democratic Party would have been like,
I don't know, Hillary, maybe Obama, he gave a good speech.
John Edwards, that's what they would have said.
They would have said John Edwards.
If you would have asked any Republican in 2014,
who's going to be your nominee in 2016,
nobody would have said Donald J. Trump.
They probably would have been, maybe some of them would,
but they would have been like Ted Cruz,
maybe some of the Marco Rubio types.
But Donald Trump ended up,
winning you never know who's going to emerge and i'm excited to see who does and we get to sit here
and continue to hopefully interview them ask them hard-hitting questions and guide the party in the
direction that we want to guide it yeah every single democratic candidate in 2026 or 2028 should have to
appear on your youtube channel yeah they don't they donate voting for them the mic and adam show they should
have to be grilled by both of us in different ways i love that
