The AI Daily Brief: Artificial Intelligence News and Analysis - Is Elon's Bid to Buy OpenAI Serious?
Episode Date: February 12, 2025Elon Musk and a group of investors have reportedly offered $97.4 billion to buy OpenAI’s nonprofit. But is this a real bid or a legal maneuver to slow Sam Altman’s ambitions? This episode breaks d...own the offer, the potential implications for OpenAI’s valuation, and why some believe Musk is using this move to challenge OpenAI’s transition to a for-profit company. Brought to you by:KPMG – Go to www.kpmg.us/ai to learn more about how KPMG can help you drive value with our AI solutions.Vanta - Simplify compliance - https://vanta.com/nlwThe Agent Readiness Audit from Superintelligent - Go to https://besuper.ai/ to request your company's agent readiness score.The AI Daily Brief helps you understand the most important news and discussions in AI. Subscribe to the podcast version of The AI Daily Brief wherever you listen: https://pod.link/1680633614Subscribe to the newsletter: https://aidailybrief.beehiiv.com/Join our Discord: https://bit.ly/aibreakdown
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Today on the AI Daily Brief, a group led by Elon Musk has offered nearly $100 billion to buy OpenAI's nonprofit.
Before that on the headlines, DeepSeek has posted half a dozen jobs focused on the AGI push.
The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI.
To join the conversation, follow the Discord link in our show notes.
Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief Headlines edition, all the daily AI news you need in around five minutes.
And apologies, this is going to be a little bit briefer today as this is the second time
I had to record this as Descript lost the first file and I've been trying to recover it.
We have a couple of interesting stories, though, kicking off with Deep Seek, not slowing down
at all. In fact, they appear to be staffing up for an AGI push. The Chinese lab that has
everyone's head in a tizzy has posted half a dozen jobs focused on developing AGI or artificial
general intelligence. They're looking for data experts, deep learning researchers, and a legal
chief with that legal role focused on developing a risk governance framework for AGI as well as
leading communications with government agencies and regulators.
As Bloomberg puts it, the postings offer a glimpse into Deepseek's ambition to remain at the
forefront of Chinese AI. However, it also feels like this an attempt to move beyond just doing
a cheaper, faster version of the same thing that we have over here. In other words,
up until now, Deep Seek has been innovative in their approach to model training and distillation,
but they haven't produced anything that pushes beyond leading U.S. models and performance.
These job postings seem to indicate that that is where they want ahead, which makes total sense
given the success they've had so far.
Meanwhile, OpenAI has been assisting the U.S. government with their probe of DeepSeek.
There's been a lot of reporting and speculation around whether DeepSeek inappropriately or at least
unauthorizedly used OpenAI's models to train their own.
Chris Lehane, OpenAI's chief global affairs officer told Bloomberg TV, we've seen some evidence
and we're continuing to review.
As Deepseek was getting all of that press and attention, security researchers from Microsoft
started to notify their partners at OpenAI that, quote,
groups linked to Deepseek were ex-filtrating large amounts of data using OpenAI's API.
OpenAI also said in January that it was, quote, aware of in reviewing indications that
DeepSeek had trained its model on the output of OpenAI's proprietary systems through a method
called distillation, which uses reasoning outputs from a model like O1 to transpose the capability
into another model.
Now, one of the things that Chris Lehane, as their Global Affairs officer, has had to deal with,
was criticism that Open AI is being hypocritical, given that they're currently defending
multiple active copyright lawsuits related to their collection of training data.
however Lehain tried to explain the difference.
He gave the analogy,
if you go to the library and read from a book
and learn from that book, that's totally fine.
That happens all the time in the AI space.
There's another version where you take the book,
put your name on the book,
slap a cover on the book,
and hand it out as if it's your book.
That's the replication.
That's what we're concerned about
and have seen some evidence of.
Indeed, not to get too wonky
or to get into the copyright issues,
but effectively that is what they have to prove,
that the outputs of OpenAI
are the effective equivalent
of taking the book,
putting their name on it,
slapping a new cover on it and hitting it out as if it's their own, to the financial detriment of
the original copyright holders. Anyways, the point is that DeepSeek continues to be a hot and going
concern, both from a performance as well as from a policy standpoint. Another open AI story,
the company is apparently getting close to manufacturing their own AI chip. According to Reuters,
they're finalizing the chip design over the next few months and preparing to send it for fabrication to
TSMC. It will take around six months from that date to produce the first test run of chips,
which would put OpenAI on schedule to begin larger production in 2026 if there are no major issues.
That is a pretty rapid development cycle for a first chip design, which is a process that usually
has taken years. Early reports only surfaced in October that this was something OpenAI was pursuing.
And basically they're going for this for the same reason that all the big companies are, which is trying to get
off over reliance on Nvidia. They currently are working with Broadcom on the design, and they also
hired former Google TPU engineer Richard Ho to lead an internal team of around 40 people.
Open AI is planning to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on this, which sounds like a lot,
but then again, is kind of incidental when you consider the $500 billion Stargate Infrastructure
Project that they are also leading.
The AI Action Summit has begun in Paris with world leaders and AI CEOs gathering in the French
capital, and the conference is being used as a way to reset the EU stance on AI in recognition
that they're falling behind compared to the U.S. and China.
There is already quite a bit of controversy, a pretty blaring speech from J.D. Vance this morning.
Basically, we are going to have a lot more to talk about here in the days to come, but just flagging
that that's going on, and it shows a pretty interesting look at the geopolitics of AI at the moment.
Lastly, today, an update in our Super Bowl coverage.
We spent a bunch of time on Monday looking at the ads that related to AI products that were
premiered on Sunday.
But one company that might have won the Super Bowl without even running an ad was perplexity.
They took another tried-and-true strategy of Super Bowl advertising, which is to convert your money
that you would have spent on an ad spot into a big old contest that distributes that money directly
to people instead. On Sunday, CEO Aravind Trinivas tweeted, there will be no Perplexity Super Bowl
ad. Instead, there's a Super Bowl contest. You install the app and ask at least five questions during
the game and we'll pick one winner to give a million dollars. Ask like a millionaire.
According to Data Analytics Platform app figures, this promotion led to a 50% increase in
daily app downloads. Perplexity rose from 257 to 49 in App Store rankings.
And for all the people clamoring for the AI ads to show use cases,
perplexity's approach actually fulfilled that brief.
By asking people to download the app and ask questions,
it guided users to familiarize themselves with how it works.
And of course, with the game, there was no shortage of sports facts to ask,
so a pretty good context for this.
So kudos to perplexity for a well-executed campaign.
That's going to do it, however, for the headlines.
Next up, the main episode.
Today's episode is brought to you by Vanta.
Trust isn't just earned, it's demanded.
Whether you're a startup founder navigating your first audit or a seasoned security professional
scaling your GRC program, proving your commitment to security has never been more critical
or more complex.
That's where Vanta comes in.
Businesses use Vanta to establish trust by automating compliance needs across over 35 frameworks
like SOC2 and ISO-2701.
Centralized security workflows, complete questionnaires up to 5X faster, and proactively
manage vendor risk.
Vanta can help you start or scale up your security program.
by connecting you with auditors and experts to conduct your audit and set up your security
program quickly. Plus, with automation and AI throughout the platform, Vanta gives you time back,
so you can focus on building your company. Join over 9,000 global companies like Atlassian,
Cora, and Factory, who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real time.
For a limited time, this audience gets $1,000 off Vanta at vanta.com slash NLW.
That's V-A-N-T-A-com slash NLW for $1,000 off.
If there is one thing that's clear about AI in 2025, it's that the agents are coming.
Vertical agents by industry, horizontal agent platforms, agents per function.
If you are running a large enterprise, you will be experimenting with agents next year.
And given how new this is, all of us are going to be back in pilot mode.
That's why Super Intelligence is offering a new product for the beginning of this year.
It's an agent readiness and opportunity audit.
Over the course of a couple quick weeks, we dig in with your team to understand what type of agents make sense for you to test, what type of infrastructure support you need to be ready, and to ultimately come away with a set of actionable recommendations that get you prepared to figure out how agents can transform your business.
If you are interested in the agent readiness and opportunity audit, reach out directly to me, NLW at B-Super.a.i. Put the word agent in the subject line so I know what you're talking about, and let's have you be a leader in the most dynamic part of the AI market.
Hello, AI Daily Brief listeners.
Taking a quick break to share some very interesting findings from KPMG's latest AI quarterly
Pulse survey.
Did you know that 67% of business leaders expect AI to fundamentally transform their
businesses within the next two years?
And yet, it's not all smooth sailing.
The biggest challenges that they face include things like data quality, risk management,
and employee adoption.
KPMG is at the forefront of helping organizations navigate these hurdles.
They're not just talking about AI.
they're leading the charge with practical solutions and real-world applications. For instance,
over half of the organization surveyed are exploring AI agents to handle tasks like administrative duties
and call center operations. So if you're looking to stay ahead in the AI game, keep an eye on KPMG.
They're not just a part of the conversation, they're helping shape it. Learn more about how KPMG
is driving AI innovation at KPMG.com slash US. Well, friends, the slap fight between Elon Musk and
Sam Altman continues. The latest swing from left field.
comes from Elon Musk, who is leading a consortium that has submitted a bid of $97.4 billion to the
Open AI board to buy the nonprofit that controls the company. The Wall Street Journal reported
that the deal would be structured with XAI as the lead investor, implying a merger if it went
through. Supporting the bid were Valor Equity Partners, Barron Capital, Atradez management,
ViCapital, 8VC, a venture firm led by Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale and Ariammanuel,
the CEO of Entertainment Company Endeavor. In a statement through his lawyers, Musk said,
It's time for OpenAI to return to the open source safety-focused force for good at once was.
We will make sure that happens.
You might notice that the offer is substantially short of OpenAI's most recent reported valuation of $340 billion,
which is because Musk is technically bidding for all the assets of the OpenAI nonprofit organization,
not the for-profit company.
As you would expect, Sam Altman rejected the bid, posting,
No thank you, but we will buy Twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.
Remember Musk took Twitter private at $44 billion.
However, Fidelity marked down their shares to just $9.4 billion last October.
Musk himself obviously responded, calling Altman a swindler, as well as posting his congressional
appearance from last year.
The clip where Altman said he doesn't have equity in the company, and I'm doing this because
I love it.
Musk caption the clip, Scam Altman.
The discussion is largely focused on whether this is a serious attempt to purchase
OpenAI or not.
Rob Rosenberg, the founder of Tell You Ride Legal Strategies, said,
I think he's trying to make a statement and bring more attention to the fact that OpenAI
is still on this course to switch from being a nonprofit to a for-profit company. And indeed, one way to
think about this is that it is, yes, a serious move, but not necessarily with the intention of actually
consummating the deal. It might more likely be a strategic play in Musk's long-running legal
battle over OpenAI's conversion to a nonprofit. The trickiest issue around that conversion is figuring
out how much Open AI is worth. Legally, Open AI is required to compensate the nonprofit for the
assets they are taking into the for-profit, and they have to do so at fair market value. Generally,
this is achieved by getting multiple independent valuations, but of course that's a lot easier to
pin down when the assets are buildings and equipment rather than world-leading AI models.
Musk appears to be trying to give a price to the assets by attaching a market value.
Musk's lawyers wrote, if Sam Altman and the present Open AI Board of Directors are intent on becoming
a fully for-profit corporation, it is vital that the charity be fairly compensated for what its
leadership is taking away from it, control over the most transformative technology of our time.
The rest of the quote said,
That value cannot be determined by insiders negotiating on both side of the table.
After all, the public is OpenAI's beneficiary,
and a sweetheart deal between insiders does not serve the public interest.
The consortium also said that they're willing to match or exceed any higher bids that come in.
Mike Isaac, a tech reporter for the New York Times, gave his assessment of the situation posting,
because of how complicated Open AI's nonprofit structure beginnings are,
this bid is a giant pain in the neck for OAI leadership,
which is currently trying to convert itself into a for-profit company.
The bid is, essentially, an attempt to,
coming up the works. Austin Allred writes, so my very basic read is Elon's offer isn't serious,
or at least he doesn't think they'll actually accept. It just forces OpenAI to adjust the fair
market value much higher as they try to purchase it out of the nonprofit. Kind of savage. But a guy I tried
to explain it a little bit further. One, they write, OpenAI is buying assets from the nonprofit for
$40 billion, valued at 25% of the equity for the new OpenAI for profit. Two, XAI offers $100 billion
for the nonprofit. Three, now the assets are worth more. Four, OpenAI has to give more
equity to justify. Five, OpenAI has less equity to sell to investors, ultimately less funding and
delayed process. The open source and safety Elon mentioned is a ploy to align with OpenAI's mission
because the board can reject the offer on the basis of not aligning with the mission regardless of
the price. It's not a serious offer. It's a tactic to slow down OpenAI is what I'm getting out of it.
Now, for background, OpenAI's board currently has 10 members, including Sam Altman himself.
After Altman was fired and returned as CEO in late 2023, there's been a lot of turnover,
including adding economist Larry Summers and retired General Paul Nakasone.
Recent reporting suggested a $40 billion payout was being considered by the board,
but with Altman on both sides of the deal and an outside offer now on the table,
it's difficult to see how that valuation stands up.
Analyst Nathan Young posted the other side of this argument,
writing Altman is currently trying to sell OpenAI to himself at a low ball price.
It's a bit technical, so he may get away with it.
I'm no journalist, but it makes me angry.
He continues in a long thread,
what is clear is that Altman, the board member, is rejecting Musk's offer
despite the only other offer we've heard being Altman, the OpenAI CEO.
Why is it in the nonprofit's best interest to do this?
Why is it in the interest of humanity?
I don't know all the facts.
Perhaps Altman and the board have good reason to prefer Altman's lower offer.
Perhaps I'm wrong about something.
But Alman has a history of moving fast and getting what he wants.
Researcher Adam Carvonen picked up another wrinkle in the story.
He pointed out a clause in the Open AI charter, which reads,
if a value-aligned safety-conscious project comes close to building AGI before we do,
we commit to stop competing with and start assisting this project. OpenAI's charter said the details
would be worked out on a case-by-case basis, but it noted that a, quote, typical triggering condition
might be a better than even chance of success in the next two years. Carvonen wrote,
OpenAI's merge and assist clause in their charter is a major wildcard that seems like it could be
triggered any moment. Is Elon trying to trigger it? The one other take here that it was prevalent
enough that it's at least worth mentioning is a question of what this says about XAI's success.
Developer Nick Dobos writes, speculating if Elon is trying seriously to buy
OpenAI, there's a good chance GROC 3 training run failed big time, and they can't raise for a new
run and or see no way to match OpenAI's progress. Serious question, why else buy OpenAI for $97 billion when
your own AI lab is valued at $40 billion? Do we really think the brand is worth an extra $50 billion to
Elon? It's not like he can't get the word out. He supposedly has the top researchers, builders,
notoriety, Twitter network effect, and infrastructure to build a comparable AI in product, unless
XAI can't. Still others think it's a lot simpler. Eric Dolan writes, game theory here,
Elon doesn't need to win. He just needs Sam to lose. Or more accurately, be distracted while
Grock others in open source catch up. Pagerst Domingos captured the sentiment of many people when he wrote,
The Open AI soap opera is the gift that keeps giving. And indeed, that was extended in an interview with Bloomberg this morning.
Open AI is not for sale. The open-Aid mission is not for sale. Elon tries all sorts of things for a long time.
This is the late, you know, this week's episode.
You take it seriously at all? What do you think he's trying to drive out with this?
I think he's probably just trying to slow us down.
He obviously is a competitor.
It's, you know, he's working hard and has raised a lot of money for X-AI,
and they're trying to compete with us from a technological perspective,
from, you know, getting the product into the market.
And I wish he would just compete by building a better product,
but I think there's been a lot of tactics, many, many lawsuits,
all sorts of other crazy stuff, now this.
And we'll try to just put our head down and keep working.
Do you think Musk's approach, then, is for?
from a position of insecurity about X-AI?
Probably his whole life is from a position of insecurity.
I feel for the guy.
Do you feel for him?
I do, actually.
I don't think he's like a happy person.
I do feel for him.
Okay.
Do you worry that he has this proximity to the president
and he can influence the decision-making of the U.S. presidency
and policies around this agenda on AI?
Not particularly.
Maybe I should, but not particularly.
I mean, I try to just wake up and think about
how we're going to make our technology better.
Ultimately, I absolutely hate, deplore,
pick your very strong word, the personal politics in this. I think there is more than a little ego
in this particular fight. But at the same time, I think that it does dramatize just how significant
the battle to race to AGI is and how intensely different people are going to be willing to play that game.
We will, of course, keep you posted if anything comes of this. But for now, just add some more
volatility to the already very wild AI space. Appreciate you listening or watching. And until next time,
peace.
