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Episode Date: November 8, 2023

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This is an emergency transmission coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas. Wednesday, November 8th, 2023. Believe me, you don't want to miss this broadcast. Info Wars. Tomorrow's News. Today. I've got my work cut out for me on this live Wednesday broadcast coming to you from our embattled studios in Central Texas. The great Mark Dyes joins us for a full hour to give his analysis. It's hard to get him on the air live. he's a great interview

but he seems to think his tape shows are better so he has to twist his arm got a new book out glove mark dies he's in the third hour Dr. Judy McEvich's incredible whistleblower totally vindicated about how deadly these shots are will be in studio

Matthew Hurt turns out as a mutual friend of mine he heads up an organization that's very successful exposing tyranny in Virginia he joins us in about 15 minutes and of course it's the viral video

tens of millions of views on Fox tens of millions of views on Twitter tens of millions of views on YouTube and it's just probably 40 million people have seen this now finger wagging dim voter loses it on GOP poll worker in curse laden rant and he says I'm taking your picture and I'm going to get you

the Republicans win and this is standard fair for these folks standard fair but of course they're happy in Virginia. The governor's fault short in his mission to win the total GOP control of Virginia state legislature. They also clearly had more election fraud in Kentucky

and evidence of that. In the governor's race, it's happened again. Magically, the gas broke at two different voting places that are the key Democrat areas to keep them open late into the night, so they would magically get the votes to put him over the top. That's in Louisville, Kentucky. So we'll be looking at that as well here today.

But this gentleman that got the video was confronted for daring to hand out a Republican voter list, just a list of Republican candidates. And according to the Democrat that gets in his face, that is some type of horrible, evil crime of insurrection. Just remember, as Jack Pesovic said, he tweeted this, that's your average Virginia or D.C. juror. In D.C., they vote 92% Democrat. It's been changing in Virginia, but they're just panicked.

They think they own you. They think that's the way it is. So that's the first thing we're going to cover. And then the reason I'll ever play this footage is that if you're going to play it, you might as well really show a bunch of it. So I'm going to show a little bit today, but when I do a special report for Stephen Crowder's outfit, the layer Friday and all their excerpts of it here.

I'm going to do a deep dive on what it's like to live in Africa under the rule of some of the African despots and under the Islamists. And we got footage of them mowing down little children. We got footage of just piles of dead bodies, black people begging for their lives at the hands of the Muslims who are Arab, but also at the hands of Africans. and it's just absolutely, completely over-the-top stuff,

mass executions, you name it. Now, you're not going to see this on the news because only white people can be mean to brown people. Also in some of the videos, after they kill the black people, they eat them. That's right. They eat them. Would you like to see that?

I know you don't want to. I'm going to put it in the Friday show. But I'm going to show some of it today. But I'm tasking the crew now. I've already sent them a bunch. We'll show you kids in lithium mines as young as six. We'll show you UN raping children and then burning them at the stake. We'll go ahead and just show you everything.

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You might as well have been walking up to my head on the way to the polling session, putting your gun in the head. I'm trying to tell me not to them. Do you expect me not to take that personally? You try to overthrow elections with violence, and then you're out here among decent people. Thanks for coming out there. What do you have to say that, huh?

And what's on your, what are your policy prescriptions? Have an honest day. You've ever been rapist rights. Involving yourself in people's families and their f***ing bedrooms. It's pretty wild. You fucking animals. You try to steal my vote next year? I'm going to remember you personally.

Thank you. In fact, I'm taking a picture. Is that all right? Yeah, you can. Yeah. It's a one-party consent state. Yeah, one-party state. You want to fucking one-party countries.

Hey, sir, how are you? Head it in to vote? Could I get a Republican sample ballot? Sure, thank you. You know, try not to be buddy-buddy with these people, because they put on the face of a good neighbor, but they support Lynchmen. So they're fake a gay,

or their Bible beating bigots and freaks. And they're not good neighbors. Matthew Hurt. We'll be joining us here in just a few minutes to break down what's going on. Also, guys, print me his Twitter. He's got a very successful organization in Virginia.

I know people that work with him. That's how they gave me his number this morning to get him on. So give me Matthew Hertz's Twitter profile. I want to talk about his organization. We put it on screen. Matthew Hurt at Matthew Hurt. And that's all you've got to do is just go out and show these lunatics for what they are. But look at the guy.

Blow that guy's face up. Not literally. I mean, he'll say, Jones said, blew his face up. I mean, the guy's smiling at him. The guy that the bully told, don't you talk to him, you're not allowed to talk to him. That's what Democrats always do. But the guys are just smiling at him in a friendly way. The man is out there handing out a vote Republican little pamphlet with a list of the Republican candidates on the street.

And the crazy man comes over, and this is a microcosm into their brain. This little microcosm is a macrocosm of the larger picture. What does he say? I can teach a whole college course. on psychology off this one minute, 38 second clip. He says, you out here handing out those pamphlets is like putting a gun to me and my family. You're not going to steal my election. How dare you claim the last election was stolen?

So he's claiming that Republicans or conservatives are going to steal the election and then saying, and you better not sit there and deny how this election turns out. Sure enough, massive evidence of fraud. in Virginia yesterday in the special election. Massive evidence of fraud in the Kentucky gubernatorial election. I just have stacks of it right here. Same old story over and over again. Oh, multiple broken gas lines had to close these key Democrat precincts,

and they still kept counting inside and kept them open. But everybody had to be kicked out again, just like Georgia, just like Michigan, just like Pennsylvania, just like Arizona, where they, at all the main Republican precinct areas, they gave them ballots two inches too short, so they wouldn't work. And then, oh, don't worry, they then took them away. And you know the rest of the story.

So people say, well, why should we even vote? Because all the experts agree, and I've studied this in depth, you can't beat a massive landslide. If somebody's winning by 60% or so, it's very hard. with the dead people voting and the mail-in ballots and even the machine flipping because the numbers just aren't there to get it done. I mean, they try to still Texas in 2020. They try to steal in 2020.

They try to steal Florida. You can see them with their fake ballots. All of a sudden, a key point goes straight up. We've all seen the curve where a normal curve is rounded and organic. And then when the fraud comes in, you see a straight line go bloop. And it shoots up above the Republicans. but you see it in Texas in Florida with the landslide's so big that you've got the two curves, Democrats are losing, Republicans are winning, it's two half circles,

and then they turn on the juice at eight, nine at night, bloop, but oh, didn't make it, didn't make it. And when it stops, there's no other votes, it just goes, bloop. So when they hit their nitrous oxide, when they hit their turbojets, when they hit their afterburners, if they don't have enough dead people and enough people that have moved out of state that Microsoft and Facebook both culled through the computers with AI and gave the Democrats list of what to fill out and what to put on the ballot and in many cases there weren't even signatures on the ballots or the signatures didn't match they said no problem

in the hundreds of videos health more than hundreds I saw like 50 anyone just the last few days of the last election and the election before last, where people just pull up and get out of their car, they've got just stacks of ballots. In one case, the lady pulls up, and he goes,

who are you voting for? She goes, oh, excuse me, huh? And she's just got hundreds of ballots. She's just cramming them in. And she goes, oh, excuse us, we didn't mean to be. I had family at the main post office in Austin two days after the 2020 election.

And this family member is an engineer and a chemist, so he's smart. He's not stupid. I don't mean degrees make you smart, but he's very smart. And he sat there and he thought it might be illegal to videotape it, so he didn't. But he watched a man sit there with at least 20 ballots, and he got his package meld and left. Just signing names on them. Sitting there looking in a list of names and then signing the name.

I mean, they don't even do it in the car. They do it at the damn drop box or in the post office. So that's how this works, ladies and gentlemen. gentlemen, and notice they take a picture, just like when Uber eats or DoorDash or any of those services, deliver food or groceries to your house. What do they do if you don't ask the front door? They take a photo of the bags on your front door or at your gate because they're there to deliver and get paid. And Dinesha Susan, and it's 2000 Mules film in just one town.

I think it's several, but in one town. showed with the GPS tracking that's on all your phones, you could actually pay companies for it, so he did it. And they were then able to track how these hundreds of individuals all would go to the same locations, the safe houses, and then they would go to all these dozens of other locations, and then they'd go to another safe house, and then go to all these locations.

Can watch it all in live time. Now, we're going to go to our special guests here in just a moment, but I wanted to play this clip one more time of it actually happening. Matthew Hunt caught this in Virginia, and it's gone viral, but I'm telling you, I've seen this myself. This is par for the course of these arrogant Democrats. Listen to the entitlement. Listen to the hatred. Listen to the threats. Listen to the bullying.

I want to vote next year? Right to overthrow the election. You might as well have been walking up to my head on the way to the polling station. What are your gun in the head? Trying to tell me not to them. Do you expect me not to take that personally? You try to overthrow elections with violence and then you're out here among decent people. Thanks for coming out there.

What do you have to say that, huh? And what's on your, what are your policy prescriptions? You've been rapist rights. Yeah. Involving yourself and people's families and their bedrooms. It's pretty wild. You fucking animal.

You try to steal my vote next year. I'm going to remember you personally. Thank you. In fact, I'm taking a picture. Is that all right? Yeah, you can. Yeah. It's a one-party consent state.

Shipper. Yeah, one-party state. You want to find one-party countries. Hey, sir. How are you? headed in to vote? Could I get a Republican sample ballot? Sure, thank you.

You know, try not to be buddy-buddy with these people because they put on the face of a good neighbor, but they support Lynchmen. So they're fake or their Bible beating bigots and freaks. And they're not good neighbors. Well, there is a lot to unpack there. You can find out everything about Matthew Hurt, who's involved in a lot of great organizations in Virginia,

native Tennessee and proud Virginian. Director of Professional Services, Leadershipist, and the Right Jobs on Twitter, community organizer, and Super Connector. So Matthew Hurt, I'm glad that a mutual friend reached out to me with your number this morning. Glad we could get you on. You've got one of the top stories out there right now that really illustrates how hyena-like and crazy these people are and how they're projecting. There's a lot to unpack here. First off, tell us about yourself a little bit. and then the big response to this,

and before you got your camera rolling, your phone rolling, what was he saying before you got your phone on? Well, thank you so much, Alex, for the opportunity. My name is Matthew Hurt, and I'm the chairman of the Arlington County Republican Committee in Arlington, Virginia, where 80% of my neighbors living and dead voted for Joe Biden. And I've been an activist since I was young,

since I was in college, and even before then, I ran for office when I was 19. I tell people I got it out of my system. And now I help people run for office, and I help people engage in conservative activism. So yesterday in Arlington, we had an election. And as the chairman of the Arlington County Republican Committee, it's my responsibility to distribute our sample ballots, our campaign literature. And this was the fourth polling location that I dropped by yesterday morning. It was about 9 a.m.

And the gentleman is what you don't see in the video is he actually walks towards. me at the beginning of the interaction, and I offer him a Republican sample ballot. He then flies into a rage for two or three minutes, a very similar kind of conversation that you see in the video, and then he goes into vote, Alex, and it's at this point that I realize he's going to come back out and he's going to do the same thing. So I took my phone and I dropped it in my shirt pocket, and I hit record, like you said, and I waited for him to come out of the polling location. And sure enough, the entirety of the video about two minutes on Twitter or on X is actually the second interaction, the second encounter I had with him. This is what unhinged progressives and leftists look like in places like Arlington, Virginia, in places like Austin, Texas, in places like Memphis or Nashville, you know, these urban centers across America, where they don't really like to have opposing viewpoints in their communities.

And as the chairman of the Republican Party here, I'm very outgoing. and I'm very friendly and nice to a lot of my Democrat neighbors, and they actually like to talk to us. They like to engage us on policy, but occasionally you get somebody like this who just does not want a diversity of thought in this community. So they're in your community. You're the chairman of the Republican Party. You're a nationally known, a recognized grassroots organizer and public speaker.

I've seen your work for years, and you're just out there calmly handing out brochures, talking to people, and I figured that's what happened because we did. and talk before you came on, you just agreed to come on. It looked like he'd already confronted you and he was coming back for more. I've noticed that's something they do too. If you're polite to them, they seem to enjoy that and then want to bully you. Sometimes they wait until you try to leave. Then they chase you in some weird ritual.

What were some of the things he said just from memory in the first confrontation? You know, and I have filed a police report and I am pressing charges in this interaction. There's allegedly a track record with this gentleman. of disrupting political activity. Allegedly in 2018, he was on the White House lawn, protesting Donald Trump from within the gates of the White House lawn. And so I learned via online yesterday that he has a long track record of this. And I think it is important that he be confronted with these transgressions

and his outrageous activity. But the conversation on the way in was very similar to what you heard in the video. You know, I'm an insurrectionist and all of these things, all of the things that you might think. Whatever you, Alex, or your viewers think a progressive would say in a community like Arlington, he said it. And, you know, it was comedy gold if it wasn't so scary because there are people walking around this community here in Arlington who are deeply, deeply disturbed. I'll say this, to the credit of my counterparts on the Democratic side here in Arlington, the other gentleman, in the video, he's an older gentleman. He was the official representative for the Democrats outside the polling location, and he was a super pleasant guy.

Very nice. We, you know, for about 10 minutes before this other gentleman walks up, he and I are having a very good conversation. And then as the guy approaches, he's probably 20 or 30 yards from the sidewalk. And I just say, hey, you know, would you like a Republican sample ballot? The same thing you heard toward the end of the video. And again, he just lost it. A lot of the same stuff. A lot of, you know, you're an insurrectionist, you're going to steal my vote, you're going to steal this election, just really wild stuff.

And a lot of it is projection. You know, progressives often accuse those of us on the right of the things they're actually doing. So this is what I saw. And I couldn't have happened to a better prepared activist. We had a number of other poll greeters out at polling locations who were not as equipped or not as prepared to handle controversy. or a contentious situation like this. And I'm glad I was there, and I'm glad I was able to get it on camera.

Wow. So studying Republican politics, isn't Arlington, Virginia, one of the most important battleground areas in the country, one of the most important legislatures, also for the wider state there, but also the county commission, so many of the decisions that ended up being made in that area

end up matriculating up into D.C., that's obviously very, very, nearby. So I can ask you a million questions just about the state of the country, the state of the voters, and where you think this big election is going in 12 months. You know, these voters in Arlington are overwhelmingly progressive. I think the last time we won a presidential election in Arlington was Ronald Reagan in 1980. But as the chairman of the committee, and Alex, I understand a lot of your viewers are skeptical probably of Republican party politics. I jokingly say I am the establishment in my committee. I was a Ron Paul

delegate in 2012. I supported Ron Paul. I went to the convention in Tampa, and I've been a pro-liberty activist my entire life. It is so important for your listeners, your viewers to get involved in these processes and to join us, because what I found last night, last night at our election night party, a woman came to the election night party. She said, I worked as a political appointee for Bill Clinton. And it took me 20 years, but I was wrong. And I'm ready to join the Arlington County Republicans and make a difference as a Republican. So we have an opportunity in Arlington where, again, like I said, 80% of my neighbors living and dead. Most of them, they voted for Joe Biden. Most of them are federal employees or auxiliaries. They work in some

tangential relationship to the federal government. So they are biased toward the left or toward progressive or leftist ideology. But there's a real opportunity here. And I tell people I'm the kid in the room full of horse manure saying there's got to be a pony in here somewhere. And I'm digging out and trying to find. Well, I totally agree. And I know that it's a majority Democrat.

And that's what Jack Meselic tweeted. This is the type of jurors people get in those areas of Virginia and imagine D.C. what Trump is facing. When I'm at Battleground, and I should have clarified, I don't mean close. I mean, it's a good place to be able to really wake people. up. That's what I'm seeing around the country is people are turning away from the Democratic Party in droves. Absolutely, Alex. And the one thing, the honor that I have to serve in this capacity as chairman is tremendous, because what we get and what I get is so many opportunities to take this

message to so many diverse viewers and listeners. You know, talk radio interviews, of course, this very important program here with you today, Alex, and a number of others, because people need to know what's going on. They need to know what's going on on on election. Day. They need to know that, you know, how democracy plays out in the, in the smallest communities and our proximity to D.C., you know, you see the background here. I'm practically within spitting distance of Washington, D.C. A lot of the policies that come out of Arlington and Northern Virginia wind up as earbugs in the members of Congress as these failed progressive policies. So it's something that I'm really, I really care about. I care about carrying our message to anyone who will listen.

And that's why I was so honored last night to have so many, you know, the woman I I mentioned, who was a Clinton appointee, but others who said, you know, I'm really waking up to this one-party garbage in northern Virginia. Well, that was my next question is, you know, the bullying is obviously backfiring, but they're only intensifying the bullying. They're attacking the White House, multiple nights the last week. But then that's called, you know, peaceful, but then people between velvet robes are getting years in prison. Giving us the big 35,000 foot view, do you think the persecution of Trump is over? overall growing the Republican Party or hurting it? You know, I think it's mixed in the communities across the country.

I think that obviously there are a lot of things that be said about a witch hunt and about, you know, politicians who want to score political points and elements of our justice system that are corrupt. And I think that those elements are taking advantage of a situation. I will say I think it's hard to make apologies for Trump from time to time. He doesn't really play the victim that well. and he could navigate that system a little better, but every institution of our society is against him. And you can see it in our community.

On Saturday, the last day of early voting, I attempted to hand a sample ballot to someone, and she said, you know, I'm never voting for blankety-blank Donald Trump. And I just say, you know, Donald Trump's not on the ballot this year, and he's not running for county board. Well, that was my next question. What do you make of the election that just happened in Virginia

and the governor not getting what he wanted? Yeah, it was disappointing in some regards. obviously we lost the lower chamber and we were looking to pick up the states in it. But we did defeat Osoros-backed Commonwealth's attorney or prosecutor in Loudoun County, basically the cradle of this this parents' rights movement, the school board movement. We did pick up some seats in other places. There's a tremendous opportunity. I do think that we ran great candidates.

The Republican Party ran great candidates. Our governor did a really good job funding those candidates and the state party built out the infrastructure. when it comes down to it, there were a lot of people who voted on the matter of abortion, and I think that was a driving force that boosted Democrat turnout in Virginia. Back to this individual, when you do a little bit more on the other side of you, you've got time. Why do you think the story went so viral? I think that, you know, being there and having the presence of buying to film it and then to

immediately get it online. You know, if you think about it, this happened at 9 a.m. Eastern yesterday, it was up by 9.10. And so as we go into the news cycle and a program like this, producers and reporters are looking for stories. I'm pretty well connected at the conservative movement with reporters and with others. And so friends of mine push this out. It's got over 11 million views now from my own Twitter account today. But I think that this confirms what a lot of people thought happens in a place like Arlington. And for me to be there, and again, I wouldn't wish this kind of interaction on the dozens of

Other poll greeters who volunteer for the Arlington County Republican Committee. I wouldn't wish this on them. I'm grateful that I was there so that I could have the president. Absolutely. Stay there because let's talk about what would be like to be in places like Seattle. You'd been hit over the head with a baseball bat. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones, mainstream media, government cover-ups. You want to stop tyranny? Well, so does he. Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones. All right, we've got the chairman of the Republican Party in Arlington, Virginia on with us for one more segment. He's got one of the top viral stories out there. That's par for the course. A bully comes and gets in his face, goes in votes, comes back out, gets in his face, tells people not to talk to him, tells him he's going to get him, tells him, don't you steal my election, or I'll get you, and don't you claim elections are stolen?

I mean, this guy is just out of control. He wants full control over people's minds. And I guess we've learned the name of this individual, but he's more of the leftist, quote, intelligentsia. their foot soldiers are anti-fug and in many parts of the country Republicans get hit over the head with baseball bats or with concrete blocks or pepper spray or sometimes get shot in the back

and the media basically covers it up I mean Rand Paul had his ribs broken by a neighbor that hated him and his lung punctured and has been attacked many other times he got shot at when other congressmen like Scalise almost were killed by a deranged killer and I remember when that guy drove from Illinois to shoot up the Republican baseball game close to you there in D.C., Wolf Blitzer said this guy was not a monster, he was angry.

I'll never forget that quote. So these guys, they're really the ones dealing the violence, the mostly peaceful protest, trying to frame us as hyperviolent when statistically conservatives and white folks on average have very low crime rates. And that dub tells with the Nashville trans shooter manifesto. First, they said it was fake. then they said, okay, it's real. We're going to criminally try to come after whoever gave it to Stephen Crowder. They tried to falsely say, I released it because I'm fake news. It's just crazy how much they try to manage information.

But it's interesting because normally when Antifa attacks people, it barely even makes it on Fox. This did make it on Fox, and it really has resonated with people. Yeah, I think, Alex, that, again, this confirms what we all kind of knew. what happens on Election Day or what happens around elections is that these individuals who largely are behind a keyboard most of the time, they don't get much interaction with other humans in real life. If you know somebody, even if your neighbor is a Democrat or a socialist or a progressive, and you know that person, it's much harder to actually hate them. So this gentleman clearly doesn't get out a lot.

And like I said, with most of the other interactions on Election Day yesterday that I have with Democrats or progressives or federal employees who were going to vote were pretty pleasant. We're pretty nice. This guy just flew off the handle, but it's dangerous. He is one step away from a tragic incident in our society, and he is roaming the streets, you know, going out there and berating people just for their political opinions. And again, I think this is part of what the progressives want. They claim they like diversity, but when it comes to diversity of thought, that is absolutely forebought, and it is not allowed. And so in Arlington, like I said, I'm the chairman of the committee of the Arlington County Republicans. We get on a good day 20% of the vote. But I'm out here and I'm

proactive and I'm aggressive in greeting voters and getting to know people. And I think that is making guys like the guy in the video very nervous because when we talk to voters, when we humanize ourselves and we talk about the issues that matter, these voters are coming over to our side. Well, by their yardstick, that is clear voter suppression, though, what he does. did to you. And of course, we see for any instance of Republican election fraud, we'll catch the Democrats a hundred times doing

it. It gets swept under the rug. Look what just happened in Connecticut, where a convicted member of the city council got caught on all the footage stuffing the ballot box again. So when it's Democrats robbing Democrats, the judge shut it down. There's a new election.

And there are a bunch of other examples that have broken around the country as well. And they're now catching them. I mean, I think that's the good news is this process. People say, well, there's so much election fraud just don't vote. No, keep voting, vote in higher numbers, have landslides, and then investigate it, and then force it out. And that's why they're panicking, trying to outlaw the idea of questioning elections.

Something Democrats always do, even when they, you know, fair and square lose, they still have a right to investigate and a right to have hearings about it or whatever. But now there's this schizophrenic view where they can challenge elections, but we can't, even though historically the Democrats from LBJ to John F. Kennedy, I mean, they're really the thoroughbreds of election fraud. Alex, this is such an important point that you've made is that, you know, voting only takes a few moments of your time. And if you're skeptical about outcomes at the local level or at the state level, I think we still have to do our due diligence. And that's why, as the chairman of the committee here in Arlington, it was so important for me to get as many voters out to see what the benchmark was for Republican votes in Arlington. Again, we don't perform that well here in Arlington on Election Day,

but I tell people there's nowhere to go. But, I mean, that's the thing. They don't have to cheat. They don't have to cheat when we don't show up. And it's every time that we're winning, they do come cheat, and it's destroying them. They're losing in all the real poll numbers. Of course, they're going to steal everywhere they can again. But again, we're catching them.

Just as folks rob banks, you don't go, well, we're not going to prosecute bank robbers because we don't catch them all. No, we've got to continue to engage to smoke them out. You're absolutely right. And that's why I've told everyone who has come to this video or discovered it, we have to get out and vote. We have to get out and organize. And even if you're not involved in a political committee, I guarantee your viewers and listeners care about something,

be it their Second Amendment rights, be it their free speech rights, be at their education rights of where to send their children. Organizing around those principles and creating a community allows you to make a tremendous impact. You know, just since 1980, the homeschool community, community has grown exponentially in this country, from illegal to now pervasive, I think, in a good way. And especially after they shut down the schools for two plus years, our gun rights are, you know, people who support the Second Amendment are expanding. The number of people who want to exercise that, the number of people who want to express themselves in the First Amendment is expanding.

And when we organize around these policies, around these principles, around these constitutional, the foundation of our American experiment, then we can win. And when we, when we, win or when we start winning, they do get really nervous because then they can't centrally planned, then they can't control our lives. And it makes it very uncomfortable for the authoritarian who want to run the show. And your example of homeschooling is the best. And I should hammer that more. If you go back 30 years ago, like less than 1% were homeschooling, some states it's up to like 15, 16, 70%,

and it's exponential panicking the living daylights out of these Marxist's Lenoxygen. that have been fessing the educational system. So it's absolutely exciting. I was one of the lucky ones. I went through government school and came out just fine. In fact, yesterday, one of the most encouraging text message I got was for my eighth-grade social studies teacher who said, I'm so proud of you for what you did out there at the polling place.

But yeah, you're absolutely right. Many parents, millions of parents are dropping their children off for eight hours a day and saying, oh, they're going to learn reading, writing, arithmetic. and in fact they're learning DEI and social emotional learning and what gender they are or not. And it is going to cripple a generation of Americans if parents don't invest. I'm grateful. My parents were very invested and involved in mine and my sister's education, and I'm so grateful for that. But many parents have checked out and we have to clue in and know what's going on in the schools

and know what's going on across these policy issues. Again, where we're winning when we take the message to Americans. More Americans are with us than are not, regardless. regardless of what the national media says, and we have to organize. And as my friend and late colleague Andrew Breitbart, who used to organize in a conservative movement, he passed away, he said, we have to be happy warriors. And that's why, you know, this show is so important, Alex, you're a happy warrior. And I've encountered many of your listeners and viewers online and in real life.

And we are happy warriors talking about what it means to create a pathway for a free country so that we can exercise our God-given constitutional rights. Well, that's right. And at the end of the day, Matthew Hurt, you know this. That which doesn't kill us only makes it stronger, as Nietzsche said, if we give up, things are going to be 50 times worse. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm the, I tell people, like I said, I'm the kid in the room full of horse manure saying there's got to be a pony in here somewhere. Even in Arlington, where 80% of my neighbors living and dead voted for Joe Biden in 2020, I'm here. I show up every day and I'm involved and engaged because I know that if we're not showing up, then it's only going to be. worse. Absolutely. Look, I know a lot of Democrats who are lawyers and prominent people and privately at dinner eating a chicken fried steak. They go, listen, I hate the Democratic Party and I hate all this, but if I don't stay in it, I will lose all my contracts. But they're losing their control.

And now, that's why BlackRock and the social credit scores are trying to come from the million foot level and be the cavalry to all these little establishments. and good old boy networks that are hooked in to this larger corporate oligarchy that is globalism. And so all of this unfurling of high-tech tyranny is not a sign of strength. It's a sign of total desperation by the power structure. When you get Bilderberg documents or CFR leaks, they will tell you their systems collapsing and going down. And I've had dinner multiple times with Bilderberg attendees, off-record journalistic discussions, but they're off-record. And they say, no, it's true.

Globalism's failed. It's a fraud. It's supposed to be this big liberal thing of these new aristocracy to oversee things. But really it's about a consolidation of wealth in power. It's totally hypocritical. And we can see that the world is turning against it. What do you think, Mr. Jones, some paths out of this are? And when people like that are wanting to, you know, fly me somewhere to meet with them,

to literally just ask my opinion, not try to get me to do anything because they know I won't, that shows they're really concerned. This is years ago. This has happened four or five times, actually, but twice last year with two different high-level, well-known people. And they're saying, hey, I'm just in the system. It's a system I worked in. I don't even agree with it. But I don't, you know, what's your view, brainstorming with a whole group of people, how to get out of this and not destroy the planet.

And so the fact that, I mean, look at Elon Musk. One of the richest men in the world, he's out there. You tune in to him. You tune into the shows he does, the talks he does. and it literally sounds like me 20 years ago or Giober Griffin 20 years ago. And so there are hundreds of different political persuasions and weird little boutique organizations and issue-based groups. But really there's freedom and the American system and the Renaissance continuing

or there's this global corporate communist, fascist, amalgamation of the mega-rich trying to keep control and trying to use communism to domesticate and make the public basically useless so they can. and then just be phased out with depopulation. And so the fact that you tune into Tucker Carlson or you tune into Russell Brand or you tune into Jimmy Dore or all the big shows, RFK Jr. now, it says, oh, they want to ship any illegals being under class of control him to still elections. And, you know, coming out, well, actually, we don't want to take the guns now. The fact that he's totally, you know, flipping over, whether he's good or bad,

they know where the people are going and they're now having to follow. And so I got to say the Great Awakening's here. That's why the enemy's coming down. It's like a 10,000-pound gorilla. Closing comments on that rant. You know, you mentioned a lot of good stuff there. And one of the things in the culture is we talk about these issues of freedom and opportunity is you and Joe Rogan. You know, many people who are not political, tune in to your program and tune in to Joe Rogan.

And to have those conversations so publicly available to have these kinds of really robust discussions is such an opportunity. more and more people because we consume our information across an increasing number of platforms. You know, Walter Cronkite is not providing the state news at 6 p.m. every night anymore. And there are so many valuable and invaluable assets like this program and many others, many platforms where there are local reporters, local journalists, local investigators who are digging into these issues. And, you know, just last night, again, in Arlington, I'm finding so many Democrats who say, you know, if I flirt with conservative principles or I flirt with constitutional principles of the Republican Party, I'll be shunned from my social circle. But I need to do it.

I think I need to step out. And so we're seeing people have the courage and step out and step away from the globalists or step away from the authoritarianes who run their communities. And I am glad to be in a position to welcome them in a Republican Party that is welcoming to anybody who wants to fight authoritarianism and tyranny, either here in Arlington or, you know, all the way up to the Well, that's beautiful. And you're, one of our old friends reached out to me, who was also a big Ron Paul supporter. Steve did. So I'm really thankful to Steve. I should get Steve back on. Steve is a great guy, and he told me all the great stories about a lot of your stuff back in the old days on public TV. And so I just, you know, thank you for being a fighter out here and for everything

that you've done. I used to have a. college radio show at Middle Tennessee State University. And it's such a tremendous opportunity to push information and create community and inform and educate people. And so thanks for what you're doing. Thank you, brother. I know you've got a great operation, getting people jobs and getting the economy going. How do people find everything you're up to?

The easiest way to find me is on Twitter or X at Matthew Hurt. I know we have the cry on on the screen for a good part of this interview. But right now, if you just Google me or Duk. or Bing or any of those, and reach out to me through any of those platforms, and I'm happy to connect you with opportunities to be engaged and involved in your civic endeavor, on the issues that you care about, and again, on fighting this authoritarian threat that exists in this country. All right, Matthew Heard.

Thank you so much. Thank you, Alex. And I tell these stories a lot because they happen every few days, because it's good news. I'm a very prominent person, my big pumpkin head. I'm well known, and you'd think as demonized as I am. in the corporate press that I would be getting tomatoes thrown at me or beer bottles. And that's happened a few times. And it was happening quite a bit when Trump first got elected.

But now it doesn't happen. And so, knock on wood, it would probably happened today since I said that. But it happens very rarely that somebody dumps a Coca-Cola on my head or iced tea or coffee or throws a bottle at me or throws a bag of feces at me like Antifidid and missed me and hit Owen. That was like four or five years ago. I my wife and daughter

got three other children but they're older and moved out now it's old I am said hey I want a pizza and I'm like well I don't want to wait an hour for some delivery

you got to bring it cold I'll go get it where do you want it from I want it from here I get there I walk in and the little check in places right here

and I tell the receptionist here's my name pizza and there's a bar just loaded with I'd say middle-aged men and women, mainly women. It's just jam-packed. The bar is just bustling.

And a woman comes over and she goes, I used to be a lebtard. But you woke me up. Another woman comes over. She goes, I was too. And then another woman and another woman. And then something like that happened just a few days before as well. So it's happening all over the place. And then I'm walking out with the pizza and the salad.

And another woman and man are walking in. And they say, hey, we used to be big liberals. We love you. We're awake now. We're Red Bill. I mean, I had five people. And I was only waiting like a few minutes come up to me. And once one came up, more came up, that's incredible, folks.

That's in places like Austin, Texas and, you know, or places like Big Bend. And just no matter where I go, that's what's happening. So it's a very, very exciting time. to be alive. We've got Dr. Judy Mikovits with huge breaking news coming up. Believe me, you're going to want to hear this information about what Bill Gates is now up to. He's got a new poison shot coming after your daughters this time. But I wanted to air a Greg Reef's report.

I respect Greg, and he's got authorization to put out and do whatever he wants. We agree about 95% of things. And this is somewhat of a controversial report. But I think at the end of the day, it's very healthy to understand how. the organized groups are trying to get in front of us and between us and God, and how there is a Illuminati organization trying to manipulate the three Abrahamic religions against each other. And then later I'm going to get to more of these clips. I've got some really, really, really shocking clips of Muslims and other groups,

literally saying it's okay to rape. This is on Palestinian TV. It's okay to rape and keep Jewish women as sex slaves, according to Allah. And again, I'll show you bad stuff that some of the Zionists are saying, you know, where they're like, we're going to kill everybody or they're subhuman. This is not good, folks, and it's being manipulated at a higher level. Here it is. The dark cabal, hurting us like sheep, is only able to maintain its power by staying invisible.

The most effective way of maintaining invisibility is and always has. been the art of dividing the masses. This psychological operation known as divide and conquer has been deployed for all of recorded history because it works, especially with organized religion, which is ruled by dogma rather than a personal relationship with God. Dogma is a belief doctrine dictated by a church, and if you are born into a dogmatic family, then you are raised to believe their dogma. As a result, you will see all conflicting religious dogma as evil. You will be divided and conquered. The main religions used to divide and conquer mankind are the three Abrahamic religions.

Judaic dogma teaches the Jew that they are a member of the chosen race destined to rule over everyone else as a teacher of God's law. Islamic dogma teaches that all of mankind must somehow submit to Islam. And while there are reportedly 40,000 different denominations of Christianity, most Christian dogma teaches that Christians will live in paradise for eternity while everyone else burns in hell. Many people raised in these religions have been able to personally connect with God and liberate themselves from the device of dogma. But many others are stuck in group mind think.

They conflate Holy Scripture and a priest class with God and put their faith in a doctrine written by man. It has become the most powerful form of mind control, and so whoever controls the holy land controls the world. In Revelation 2.9 of the King James Bible, it warns of the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. We are beginning to see this today with the Zionists

who say they are Jews and are not. With the help of the United Nations, the British Crown, the Vatican, the Nazis, and the Rothschild banking dynasty, the land formerly known as Palestine was conquered with bloodshed, lies, and bureaucracy. The Zionists who claim to be secular declared the land to be Israel, home of the Jews, and successfully thrust the once thriving Middle East back into the Middle Ages. The relatively peaceful region was soon transformed into an unending war zone. Decades of U.S. war crimes radicalized many of the Muslim population into becoming terrorists. The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 would have never been successful if it were not for the Jewish Holocaust. Even though the Palestinians had nothing to do with it, the Holocaust was effectively used as an emotional excuse for what would otherwise be an illegal land grab. And while few deny that Hitler was murdering Jews, many have pointed out that 6 million would have been logistically impossible.

So why the number 6 million? For several decades preceding World War II, the Zionists repeated the mantra, 6 million, referring to the death of 6 million Jews. A 6 followed by 6 zeros can also be read as 66, which can be read as 2 thirds. certain radical sects of Judaism and Christianity believe that two-thirds of the Jews must perish. It appears as if the Zionists created Israel as a sacrificial altar to make this happen, repeating the lesser magic mantra of what they want to make manifest.

Today we are seeing Zionists begging for genocide, calling out to kill them all, and gaslighting us into thinking there never was a Palestine, while saying we should flatten it and turn it into glass. We are seeing Christian pastors cheer for mass murder, pastors saying that Israel should make the Gaza Strip a parking lot, and several evangelical pastors who speak as if Christ will only return

if we provide him the blood sacrifice taught in their extreme dogma. As Israel pushes forward, radicalized young Muslim men who have had their homes destroyed by American bombs are now spread throughout Western nations. The stage is set for the Holy War, and many are willing to murder in the name of their dogmatic beliefs. Extremists of all three religions are being used by the hidden hand to foment this war, while the Catholic Church has been making preparations for a one-world religion solution. Divided, we will be conquered, but united, we could learn to live as one, in peace.

Reporting for Info Wars, this is Greg Rees. All right, so I can talk for hours about this, and I agree with most of it, but the point is it's very, very important to analyze it. The issue is the UN, the Vatican, all of them are saying they're going to bring in a one-world religion to stop the religious wars while the globalists fund all the religious wars instead of us just coming together under God. And so there's no doubt they're trying to trigger. They've already triggered a holy war ahead of the financial collapse. This is a very serious time to be alive. All right, we're going to start the next hour. The first five minutes, I'm going to get more into Israel and the war

and play this clip on Palestinian TV saying it's okay to kidnap and keep Jewish women as sex slaves. And this is like a mainline belief. Then I'll show you Muslims mass murdering black people. And I'm not trying to attack the Muslims here. I'm just going to show you what everybody's doing, okay? Israel's doing a lot of bad stuff too. But just understand bringing in the Muslims.

In fact, that's something I didn't get to. Israel wants to bring them here. I don't hate Israel. But you just take that rattlesnake, okay? I'm really mad about this, okay? This is a line in the sand, okay? You keep the little precious Muslims, all right? We'll be right back.

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by limiting it to legitimate wars between Muslims and their enemies the harb the muchroa between the Muslims and their enemies if we fought Israel which is plundering land

and Israel is a and it is an aggressor against people of their faith obviously it is impossible that we will fight Israel Even though Sarat al-Assar of the Koran foretels it, and nothing is beyond the power of Allah. The female prisoners of wars and those who you own, in order to humiliate them, they become the property of an army commander or a Muslim.

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There is so much big news on the poison shot situation. I know when you're a leading whistleblower and expert like yourself that Mickey Willis has made films about, that you've written bestselling books about to the great folks at Skyhorse Publishing. but people need to know you have been completely vindicated and I wish you weren't. You came out right when the pandemic began three and a half almost four years ago and you said this is what it's going to do. Blood clots, heart attacks, infertility. Now Bill Gates is funding a plan to vaccinate 86 million girls against HPV

and will unleash mass casualty events, scientists and experts warn. He says he wants to depopulate us. Meanwhile, insurance industries confirm what other experts have already said. Massive, unprecedented deaths of young people, and it's all linked to the shots. Russia releases a 2,000-page report proving Deep State and Big Pharma manufactured COVID pandemic. Demand for unvaxed sperm sores. Women looking for donors who refuse experimental jab. Bill Gates is now releasing mosquitoes all over the U.S.

And suddenly we have mosquito-borne diseases being back. you cannot make this up. Dr. Judy Mikovic, talk to us like we're 10 years old because you're the scientist, we're not. But because you move fast, giving all the data and people can search it and everything you say about it. It wasn't just this shot that did it. It was the others. And they got liability protection for this one to cover up all the damage they already did. That's why they're trying to get 100% injection.

But now less than 3% of people, the last few months have taken the, quote, new booster. So talk to us like we're not a super scientist like you that saw this decades ago and blew the whistle. What is the master plan? What are they doing? And how is it going for them? Because it seems like there is a big awakening and they've had to pull back some. Well, the sinful answer, I'm getting a lot better, I think, at understanding that and speaking that. But, you know, it's God against evil.

and there isn't there isn't any shot ever that gave you immunity according to God. And that's what I said in the first discussion with Mickey Willis in that first pandemic is lifelong immunity, that your immune system never forgets what it's seen. But what we've done with every single shot is escape the innate immunity, your skin, your nose, your ears, your throat, your nasal pharyngeal cavity, the various aspect of the microbes, our virome, our microbiota, given by God. We have an immune system, and only 3% of our DNA is actually translated into protein. That means the message from all the rest of our DNA is protection to the orchestration of our immune system to build the body between the blood stem cell and the hematopoetic it's called the blood stem cell and the mesenchymal stem cell.

Well, it builds the structure. What builds the bone? What builds the cartilage, the skin? You know, 46 chromosomes in every single cell of the body. And yet, how does the eye know to be an eye cell? What's the orchestration of that? Well, that's that very first line. It was my Ph.D. thesis.

It's not that HIV didn't exist. It's that HIV didn't cause AIDS. And this is the brilliant Peter Dewsberg, who I had the opportunity to talk to again for the first time in 21 years. A true scientist, classical scientists, it's nature, it's laws of nature, how God made humans. And we're not animals. And another human's DNA is expressed, and this is easier to say it if I say who I am. I'm an identical twin.

And what that means is I'm genetically identical to my child. twin sister from the same it's called monozygotic we came from the same fertilized egg same sperm same embryo but the day we're born the expression of our genes will be orchestrated according to our individual environments according to our trauma according to we went different places we saw different things we ate different and that's why 97% is waiting like a launch platform or a weapon system for us. Correct. That MRNA, our MRNA, the little MRNA, is of God.

The mouse monkey manufactured is a capital MRNA. And what nobody in this room realizes, and I thank God for Dr. Brian Ardice, who, last week, only two days ago, helped me to understand what people were missing. Well, what I just said was not a single shot. Not a single shot ever gave you lifelong immunity. When did we appreciate that? Well, I'm not a scientist like you, but I can see the statistics from Australia to Germany, the U.S., the UK, you name it. As soon as they brought detergents in and sewage systems and dealt with that, all these diseases go way down by the 30s,

then shots start and diseases actually go back up. And I read the news. And they admit the fine print, they've never created a flu shot that even predicted the strain. And then they admit in studies, it lowers your immunity to the next flu. So it's literally a fraud. So they admit the flu shots never work. Correct. But it goes all the way back to 1953.

It goes all the way back. That's Kent Hecken lively in our first book, where he's the researcher. I bring your brain force in whenever he and another author are on a book because I know I'm going to get the perspective that's really going to drive me to think critically about what you're both seeing and see the difference. So, you know, I turn to the conclusion of your book here, the Great Awakening, and just highlighted. And then I'll go back and read the beginning of it.

You know, how do you know you're winning? Well, what I say in our last book is going to, to be called God wins. I guess it should be called God one. But God wins when love wins, because there's only one truth. And that's God. And you've been saying it throughout the time I've been sitting here, here, and you say it every day. What do you make of the maniac?

I know you want to focus on the good God, but somebody like Bill Gates, a eugenicist, obviously used to look at him as a psychotic demon. Now with the HPV shots that we know, they had to pull years ago because they killed so many people and caused all these horrible autoimmune responses. Now they want to try to make every little girl in America take it. Well, actually, they didn't pull it years ago. I mean, I know they still have it out there, but it got rejected to a great extent, I remember. Well, it's on the schedule, and in California, it's mandated in every little girl and boy.

Well, you're the expert. Tell us what this thing does. Well, I mean, again, it's synthetic. You know, HPV doesn't cause any kind of cancer. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. You know, HIV, no single virus causes, you know, anything if our mucosal immune system. So you think about HPV, human papillomavirus, it causes warts. I've got one right over my right eye now, and I've got a couple here. And with sexual activity in college is the first time that you'll be exposed to it.

But we actually, that's what I believed all the way back in 1980. But what we now know is HBV is in newborns. And it's part of that good microbiome to tell me what's the difference between self and nonsense. By the way, it's funny you say that because, again, I'm on a scientist like you. But I've even read mainstream articles and studies on there 29 years, almost 30, that they found that when the child falls down, this is what happened to me in the playground, and hits their knees and gravel, that the viruses are in the dirt. and they found people that are infected with HPV or similar work-causing viruses are then way more resistant to other viral cancers.

Now, you're the scientist. That's what I've read. Is that true? Yes, because in the dirt, we have microbes that actually digest, and I actually said that. So the earth is vaccinating us? Exactly. Immunizing us. Immunization is not vaccination.

Well, that's how I got wards was not sex. I got warts playing baseball and falling in gravel and cuts, and you'd get a few of them. And then I read that once you had those wart viruses, it makes you way resistant to cancer. Correct. And most because you stop at a wart or it assists. Your body learns how to deal with it.

Correct. If you're natural. Oh, God is incredible. If you're naturally immunized, but see, our soil is poison. Our food is genetically modified. So the very simple thing, vaccination is not immunization.

it's extermination and sterilization. And this goes all the way back to 1986 when pharma and Fauci went to then-President Ronald Reagan and said, you know, to remove all liability because vaccines were unavoidably unsaid. I want to get back to that, but wait a minute. I remember all these studies I read now, but you're the scientist.

You're confirming it's from my late research. Warts are battles we won. Correct. Our body wargaming cancer. Correct. Wow. Keep going, sorry. Well, and see, once you start to appreciate true natural biology, and the one thing they don't want you to know,

and what I learned in my very first days as a fermentation chemist at the National Cancer Institute in June 10, 1980, is I was purifying a molecule called interferon, interferon alphids, our frontline immune defense. when you sneeze, I actually purify it from, let's just say, cow snot, cow snot, because you infect them with a virus, blow a virus in their nose, and they start sneezing, and their nose starts running, and you can take that snot, and this was my job, and isolate bovine interferon.

Well, what did we learn before molecular technologies, and what did we know for a fact? no human interfere on works on any lower animal, a cow, a pig, or anything else. And yet every animal and every plant interfere on that you get. And plants have viruses too and protections of those pathways, natural pathways that God gives us. And so discovering laws of nature and our technologies enabled us to, do that. And by the way, I mean, I'm on a scientist like you, but I read, I can and I read, you know, MIT raw reports, not just the pop stuff. And that's why almost all the big scientists now are no longer atheists because they said we've looked at human genetics. It's like a master code for everything. We're special. Correct. Yeah. And it absolutely, and in the Bible, it said in Genesis at the end, I think it's 131.

God gave us everything for food and our enjoyment. But our food is genetically modified and therefore poison. Our soil is depleted of minerals and by glyphosate. And that's how they're conquering us is by changing the earth into an abomination. Correct. And so the most important... People say, oh, it's a word abomination. No, it's against the code God set up.

It's an abomination. It'll create sin, will create death. Correct. And the most important point in that, and we learned that when we developed molecular technologies and molecular virologies, and we made those plasmids, that's circular pieces of DNA that are in other life forms. But you're not intended to inject them. So the key to all... It's been to go through the nostrils on the skin. Correct. You're bypassing your system's interpretation program. Correct. So it absolutely doesn't matter what weapon is formed

against us as long as we don't ingest or inject it. How's that? You know, as long, you know, and I don't know how they wrote it in the Sanskrit or Hebrew, don't inject the blood of another animal. And religions worldwide, I think of Jehovah's Witnesses. Well, that's why the Jews say don't eat oysters because it's a live thing. You're ingesting its old biome. Right.

And that's according to their God. But again, if we don't genetically modify it or poison oysters, they're actually quite good for a lot of things. We're certainly tasting. Yeah. So, you know, they enhance your nitric oxide, you know, because the formula is the plants that are in here. I'm looking at synergies of natural products according to God. But we aren't all made to eat them or ingest them at the same time, and you don't want them as a pill.

So we're going to make this as a liquid with your friends over at Global Healing because in that there's what's called excipients. So when we went to pills and when we put excipients in those shots, people around the world believe that the only thing in a flu vaccine is an influenza virus. Well, that's not possible because it would be degraded in the air. So you only influenza virus is a negative strand virus. So what you're looking at is how it appears in nature and how you'd apply it in nature according to the time.

Now, this works great for me when I take it on a foundation of healing in my... I didn't get you to plug. You like brain force? Oh, I love it. I'm serious. Because when Kent says, you know, when he starts writing a book, you know, talking to you that he does that. And he's right. When I'm reading his in your book, I want to focus.

I want to. Well, like Kent and I spent, reporting, I'd see him all the documents, I would review it with him. We spent four times on this book what we spent on the last time. We spent like six months almost every day on this book. So I'm really, I mean, the last book's the enemy battle plan, the Death Star Plan. this is their latest attacks, but then how to counter them. And, you know, it's all about God. But it also covers your work.

It basically covers the waterfront. You read that. Did you see where Peter Nygard, and we also now know, what's his name, Epstein at a Zorro ranch, they weren't just impregnating women to create a super race. They were impregnating women to have babies that they would abort in, like, the eight-month, and then suck their juices out and injected into themselves. That's in the book. I mean, these people, and that's what we know of.

God only knows what else they're up to. But what's really important about that is when they do that, when they ingests or inject another baby's parts or bloods. And they say it's my child, it's better. They're killing themselves. No, it is not. Explain it. Because I'm an identical twin.

And that means I'm not Julie, even though we're genetically identical. Because you're getting all of the, yeah. The expression of our genes is different. according to, you know, the foundation is the same. We still look more or less the same. But how, what kinds of traumas we endure throughout our life will change everything. But God still gave us the ability. What did we never do with an HIV-infected person?

We never gave them another shot because you would activate the late. By the law, that was admitted. Like never give a pregnant woman a shot, never give an HIV patient a shot. Now they say, oh, no, give women the shots. So all we have to do to stop all of this is never take another shot, don't ingest or inject anything genetically modified, enhance our God-given endogenous systems like our endogenous cannabinoid systems. That means put the cannabis plant back in the soil, the world's best detoxer.

The cannabis, our endogenous cannabinoid system, is the dimmer switch on inflammation. Turn down the fire, and your brain's not on fire, and you calm down. It's not the alcohol that's poisoning you. It's the poison they put in the alcohol when they put it in a grocery store. You drink the cleanest alcohol, and I'll do that with some liquid drinks with nutrients because your liver is going to detox that first, one shot, one COVID shot, And then I'll put those nutrients in a liquid form.

And I'm instantly sober and good and moving on. So when you appreciate basic, classic truth, God, immunity, a physician, an MD is not a scientist. So we've conflated our language. I did it earlier. So let's go to break and come back and get into the big picture because you're here with the good news. You see people waking up. We've also got to talk about what they've done, how people. detox that have taken the shots, how you respond

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. The lead in winter would bring you down forever, but you rode upon a steamer to the violence of the sun. Broadcasting live from the UN Stronghold, Austin, Texas. You're listening to the Alex Jones Show. Dr. Judy McEvich is our guest. I'm just sad. She's only here with us for an hour. He's got some big conferences coming up with the great Mickey Willis. Before we go any further, tell people about that. Well, we'll be in Atlanta on November 11th, 1111,

and we'll be showing all three movies with Mickey Willis, Plandemic, Pandemic Indoctrination, and the Great Awakening. We'll have Polly Tommy there from Vax 2, I believe Del Bigtree from Vax. So we're going to show you how really love wins. And this is really what Mickey did for me was, to allow me to understand and step into the purpose. Well, number one, because he listened to me.

And that's next steps. Dot info. Yeah, next steps. And let's talk about Mickey Willis because he didn't want to put himself in his new, powerful film, but his crew said, well, they killed your brother with AZT. And when you first interviewed Mickavits years ago, right before the pandemic, he like realized wait I'm living this story I've actually this they killed my brother and so that's what's so powerful about his latest film that's how serious this is and I didn't just need to believe you with the medical literature you know my dad was a dentist but he also owned a hospital with some of his partners in mesquite Texas outside Dallas and I remember him ranting at the kitchen table about A ZT killing people how they were blocking the good drugs, the interfere on,

and then he worked with some of the doctors. And I don't want to make my dad a hero, but it's true. My dad was Dallas Byers Club. He was involved, given by the medicine. He was right in the middle of it. And I remember hearing all this when I was a kid, I remember I was watching a movie with him. I rarely got a movies with him.

But when Dallas Byers Club came out like a decade ago with Matthew McConaughey, and we were going to see a science fiction movie. And when the Dallas Byers Club came on, my dad started crying. And after the movie, he said, well, I knew that guy. I knew those people. So it was just crazy how we've known this for a long time. Right.

And that's where I was. The Dallas Buyers Club is how I teach doctors now. Well, explain that people that don't know about the story. Well, in fact, that's what my lovely identical twin told me. She said, Judy, people don't remember that. Well, the Dallas Buyers Club came out in 2013. But when was it done? It was done in 19.

83 through 87, 82 through 87. That's who I am. I'm the one who confirmed Luke Montagné's isolation of L.A.V. lymphadenopathy virus. It never was HIV. What was HIV? Gain a function. The molecular technology I told you that started, you know, coming through the 60s, 70s and 80s. It was a virus they owned. They could blame it on. Correct. And yet, the antibodies were different. The electron. micrograph, how light is seen. And why did they not give the real treatments to all those men?

Because they were driving the narrative of the billions of dollars of, they were doing... Of the drugs, just like Rendozaver. Correct. It's the exact same playbook. Same crime. Well, but all we did when we saw COVID is say, hey, been there, done that.

Type 1 interferon. These nutritional support. We're being poisoned. Our body doesn't forget how to make nitric oxide. But you've got three nitric oxide synthetases. They make it, your endothelial, your neuronal, and inducible. And what we learned is whenever the inducible was on, you were inflamed. There was a parasite. There was something robbing oxygen from your blood.

So oxygen is the key to life. And any time an animal or human is dead, by definition, they're making no viruses. So the lie in those movies, you know, the movie you want to watch is the band played on, Randy Schiltz, because he and Celia Farber, and I was listening to her book and totally traumatized by it because of the realization. And again, it's Peter Dewsberg. And what a loving man. Well, I scream, and I used to scream.

And finally, Mickey Willis call me down. because what Mickey Willis realized, they not only killed his mother, I mean his brother, but his mother. Why? Because everyone with insusceptible populations was forced to get the HBV vaccination. How did HIV get into people?

Injection, infection by injection. David Martin, these are bio. My grandmother in 1954, my mother was four, She already had the shot. They gave her the liquid in the mouth. And when she got polio week later, her doctor said, sorry, this gave you polio. Correct.

That's a fact. Correct. The shots have always given the polio, you know, and... If people don't believe it, type in. I do this with Joe Rogan if you're going. Couldn't believe it. Reuters AP, majority of global polio caused by vaccine. Right.

Run by Bill Gates. Or simply read the brief. brilliant forward of Bobby Kennedy in our book, Plague of Corruption. It's 35 pages. And when we could have a conversation, this is what Mickey Willis is all about, when we can sit down and listen to each other and hear each other and feel the pain, even if sometimes you're screaming. I'm screaming.

Oh, there it is. AP, more polio cases now caused by vaccine than wildfires. Right. And that's always true. And Bobby knew that. But even more importantly... More importantly, why do they admit it? It's just crazy.

Why don't we stop it? Why don't we at every level of our world stand in the way, like the Dallas Biers Club never again? We healed those men. I was that technician standing in front at the Biological Response Modifiers Program at the National Cancer Institute in Frederick, Maryland, And it was using the systems biology approach.

Every perspective was put on that problem. So let me ask you this, though, big picture. Yeah. They're obviously trying to erase their immune system, make us factory farm controllable, you're rid of all natural food, eating bugs, eating GMO meat, eating artificial meat. If they could have their way, what would the globalist do? Well, exactly what you just said. But you know what that'll never do?

That will absolutely never destroy our immune system. because, you know, as long as we... So that's why they need to give us the shot to turn it off. Correct. And or in pathogenic priming, the booster. And so they tell you in the scientific... And they know they've got to give it to you over and over again to have all those different disorders.

Correct. And what are some of the things that giving... Because I'm not even a virologist or a PhD like you, but I know that you give somebody a shot with the same thing over and over again. It causes big problems. Well, yes, because the excipients are different. The things that's not in the shot. Every single shot has cow blood, pig blood, horse viruses.

The cell line, viral monkey kidney cell line. It's a cocktail. It's a cocktail and they never clean it up. And this was the problem with the 1986 Act. What was the problem? When Ronald Reagan told Farma and Fauci, make them safer. Make them safer. they're unavoidably unsafe.

Unavoidably unsafe is what they told him. Therefore, somebody has to die. Well, in that 1986 Act, and you can get it, 1986, the Act is a liability protection. Correct. But in that act, HHS, Human Health and Services, were given the responsibility of making sure if a vaccine could be made safer, every two years they had to test.

They had to make them safer if they could make them safer. Well, Del Bigtree and Brian Hooker, Heroes of the Faith, I call them. Suzanne Humphreys, I mean, I can go on and on. And now with this new thing, they're not even going to do that. They're just doing whatever they want. Correct, but what are we going to do? Bye-bye.

You know, we don't care. We're not going to ingest or inject GMO. And now they admit, I've seen Hillary Clinton complain, I've seen the UN complain. Globally, they messed up. Nobody trusts their shots now. I mean, the vast, like a 3% people taking the shots now. What are they going to do?

Dr. Judy McGregwood, stay there. You've got your big events coming up in Texas and in Georgia and more next steps. Dot info ending the pandemic. Coming up on 1111 next week. Judy, stay here. Let's talk about what we do to counter them and what they're going to strike back with. Stay with us. We're right back.

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It's Alex Jones. I'm whistleblower. Dr. Judy Meggavitz is here with us. And what's incredible is I get all these iconic people on. People know who Brad Pitt is. They know who Sylvester Stallone is, but they don't know when it comes to scientists and people that have been there on the front lines who the real rock stars are.

We have the Nobel Prize winner for isolating HIV coming out three, four years ago and saying this is stage, this is bad, don't take their shots. And it's totally blacked out in the news. So there have been so many good. scientist like you, Judy, who've told the truth, and that's why we're here now. And so you agree with me, and I agree with you. There's a big awakening happening. And you're technically right.

They never stop the HPV shots. They're saying little boys are dirty. They carry the virus. So they use the shots, too, and then all the horrible health problems that come with it. But they're doing another big rollout, clishing on our children. The insurance actuaries have confirmed record deaths never seen even in wartime, World War II, World War I. They did a good run on us, but it looks to me like it blew up in their face, and now we're getting 3% uptake in their shots.

It looks like they've screwed up big time. Do you agree with that, A and B, how is the empire going to strike back? Well, by turning back to God, because what we have to realize is it's not over, as long as there's breath, there's life. And so if we can convince everybody, I use. with Mickey Willis' book whenever I autograph it, I use Second Chronicle 714.

We have to humble ourselves, pray to God, and repent. And what that means is repent is 180 degrees, not 360, not just do the same thing and put a different

label on it. We have to go back to God-given immunity, and we've got the technology and we've got the beautiful people. but if the MDs, PhDs, well, PhDs teach science. Science is not medicine. A physician is not a scientist. That's an oxymoron.

They practice. Medical doctors have like maybe two weeks in their entire degree on nutrition. Correct. So medical doctors are trained to give pharmaceuticals, whether pills or shots. That was the Rockefellers in 1900. Within 20 years, they just took over. medicine. Because it really was even Western medicine before. What would you call medicine before they took it over? It was health care. When I did something stupid and ran over a barbed wire fence and

cut my leg almost at half, I go home to my mom and say, shouldn't I get a tetanot? Should I worry about blood poisoning? She said, you should have thought of that. I told you to stay out of there. And so, of course, I didn't die. But, you know, we... What about tetanus shots? There is no shot. There is no shot. That is good or ever provided immunization according to God. Do they give you protection from a acute disease from a week when you're exposed? Yes, perhaps. But again.

Well, then the contaminant sterilizer, you're giving you cancer a month later. Correct. The chronic diseases. It's very interesting. And I watch. Let's be clear. My grandmother's doctor. She was a beautiful beauty queen.

Literally, she was in a wheelchair or on crutches the rest of her life, ate half the nerves in her body. Her doctor told her, sorry, Benny Gray-Sammon, we did this to you. The shot was lot. The thing you took in your mouth was live. They gave her polio. I just showed the AP headline.

It's like a flip note. Oh, yeah. The majority of polio, we did it. Uh-huh. And aerosolizing, and it's true, and you'll see it in ending plague. The doctors get sick because they knew the, smallpox, polio shots, didn't work. And when parents insisted on their children getting the shots,

the doctor's children got polio because it was aerosolized spread through the air. So now we just call it shedding. And is that why doctors, other than like sex workers and gang members, have the lowest life expectancy? Correct. We're exposed. It's in our book. You know, the people that do these genes care.

You talked about working in bio research. You got exposed all the time. Exactly. And in fact, I said it at the meeting teaching people. I've got Ebola. You know, I developed the cell line that would grow Ebola by crippling those interferon genes and what the responsive genes and allowing transformation, allowing it to become a tumor cell that grows forever. Then all you have to do is grow it in a little cow blood and a little pig blood. Well, here's my concern. You create the seed. Bill Gates is back, so is Fowell. She's saying imminent new virus.

Obviously they're going to release it. Not new. What are we even to stop these guys? I mean, these guys are mass murders. They already released it. It's been in 2004. Moore is the first author, Journal of Biology.

SARS-CoV-2 was in it. I just told you, in 1993, I told the difference between the pathogenic, highly pathogenic, Zaire strain of Ebola. and the restin strain of Ebola, same virus, except for a few base pairs. And my job was to infect primary human stem cell monocytes and tell the difference between the deadly strain and the non-deadly train.

You know, and what... You were doing targeting. But what the difference was was the cytokine storm. So the Zaire strain made MIP-1 Alpha, I-L-1-Beta, TNF alpha, TNF alpha, IL-6, N of Kappa B, the cytokine storm. Oh, that's the same cytokine storm as COVID. Subtle differences if it hits the brain macrophage. She's saying it's really Ebola.

Yeah. But you're saying they, state this as a scientist, they hit us with a genetically engineered Ebola. But they did it in 92. And what did then pray? So be clear, I want to put this ahead of the video. And that's what other scientists have told me. Explain there's an obsession with Obama and the penitentiary.

on with Ebola, you're saying they basically packaged to weaponize Ebola into the release, into the shots. Correct me if I'm wrong. This has all been basically Ebola being put in the population. But again, the Ebola is not the disease. So what Obama did with Fauci in 2014, in 2014, when William Thompson of the CDC confessed that they covered up the data that little black boys in Georgia. in Atlanta were three to five-fold more likely to get neurological diseases, including autism.

So it's race-specific? If they were injected with MMR. Yes, it's culture, race. God didn't make oncogenes. See, we're going all the way back to oncogene theory. There's no such thing as Brock 1, breast cancer 1 gene. It's a DNA repair gene, and it's part of a big complex. So God gave us protection for that.

Yes, there are people with genetic, has to be dumb it down for me because we're going to put this up front i've been seeing this here so how about what was the ball of the carrier explain what COVID-19 is um well again the cell line vero monkey kidney cell line where we grow all our polio vaccines where we grow many many other things and and that has been put in essentially every vaccine on the schedule is a cocktail is a cocktail. They never cleaned it up according to the law. And the bottom line is it's particularly destructive. That's what my dad

told me. In 1980s, he says it's a race weapon. HIV's a race weapon. They're blocking the treatments for it. You know, obviously Magic Johnson got the cure. But literally, while they run all these ads, we love black people. We're going to hire black people. They're flooding stuff out there

that will kill white people, but it's particularly targeting black people. Correct. Wow. And targeting... And so where are the black leaders talking about that? Yeah. Well, well, They were. Look at that. Autism more common in blacks and Hispanics. Yeah.

But they were. I give you Dr. Aline. That's so evil. Type 1 interferon. Back in the AIDS. He was making the bovine interferon. It's currently called Paximmune from cows. Human interferon doesn't work on another human.

So you see, the government couldn't manufacture what they wanted. So that's why they put human abortive fetal cells in all of the products, as you showed in the commercial earlier. It can't be a pill. and it can't be shocked. So you're saying, and when we get blood, we're producing what the product they want? You don't want the blood of another individual? But I'm saying they want our blood.

It seems like they're using us to grow it? Yes. They're using, they're lacing it with it so we have auto-inflammatory. I understand. So what's their end game? Kill us. I got that.

Man, I tell you. I just, this is so sick. Well, but it's an experimentation. But we're... Exactly. It's random experimentation because that's where they get their best results. And we're... Now, it's random.

They're targeting the military. They injected HIV in the military in the 90s. That's Redfield and Berks. Why do you think they stood up there in 20, you know, and tried to, because they're getting... That's what my dad told me from his research in the 80s. He said, you have to be autoimmune impaired for it and even grow, but there's some larger plan involved. And it's not autoimmunity. God didn't make you attack yourself.

It's non-self, and you injected it. bypass. So why are they so upset? We'll go to break, come back. They're obsessed with HIV. They're obsessed with this. And my dad couldn't figure it out. He's reading all the journals.

That was a long time ago. What's their end game? Dr. Judy McEvich, you've got a big event coming up. People can find out about all the events at next steps. dot info. Next steps. dot info. Please remember, we're listed.

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Final segment of the great Mark Dyson is coming up with this view on what's happening in the world today and more. Doc, I'm going to shut up. I'm going to ask my layperson questions. We've got five minutes left. the floor hit them well i love your layperson questions because you show me that you understand the truth by everything that i hear and every commercial in my ear and everything we've been watching you understand the truth but how is the scientist good i mean the best scientists they integrate all the information like your innate immune systems your innate immune system sees patterns

pattern recognition receptors and so the old their immune systems don't they're immune systems Don't diminish. No, they make all the antibodies. Antibody is immunity. What was the test in the beginning? The test was an antibody. So with Magic Johnson, I defended my PhD thesis a week in November 14, 1991, a week after he was on the cover of Time magazine that he was antibody positive. And at that time, everybody was dying. And we didn't know what they were doing with the AZT. We were just in the lab. And, you know, my PhD thesis committee was just floored. Here's Magic Johnson that, you know, icon of strength. You know, will he or will he not? They said to me, die of AIDS. That was the question I was to answer in my four-hour thesis defense. And I said, well, and I looked at him kind of like, well, he won't even get AIDS if he

strengthens his innate immune pathways and never gets another shot. So he didn't get the right treatments. He didn't get injected, and every other athlete got injected and got poisoned and got, you know, the implication is somehow he was sleeping with prostitutes and he was engaged or that somehow athletes are dirty and will remember people putting on gloves and running out and cleaning the blood up off the floor. No, that's just a booster if you're infected with HIV. be if you never get another shot and you don't ingest genetically modified anything, whether it's a pill. A pill is a poison. And now, as we know from the wonderful, beautiful Brian artists, you know, O-Zempec. Oh, yeah, snake venom. Yeah, they put snake venom components in these shots. And the key was Sincetan, S-Y-N-C-Y-T-I-N, came from a family of virus called.

the gamma retroviruses. That was our October 23rd, 2009 paper that said, that isolated a number of those viruses from people with various neurodegenerative, neuroimmune diseases, and a plethora of cancer. So why? How a disparate, the virus was first associated with prostate cancer. It's called XMRV. The publication was 2005. Well, that was a synthetic plasmid, and that was never in human beings. But what was in human beings from the injection was the crippling of their immune system, Gert Mandenbosch, your innate immune system, those patterns. You'll never get to antibody development with all the poisons in the shot because you poison your protection. You poison your plasma cytoid dendritic cells.

They make, that's 1% of your macrophage antigen presenting population, dendrate cell population, and it makes 97% of the type 1 interferon. That's what they had to hit, type 1 interferon. SARS-Cove 2, published in 2004 and injected in every polio vaccine since then. Who got hurt? Oh, only the susceptible. Only people eating a ton of glyphosate. Only the blacks, only the military, the people most shot.

But the people that could eat clean, my identical twin, her three sons, they're military. They got it. And that's while the left are obsessed with these special organic grocery stores and shops they go to while they kill all of us. Dr. Judy McGregode's incredible job. People need to go to your event in Atlanta. What's the best place for people to visit to find all your great work? The Real Dr. Judy.com. The real DR.judy.com is where everything.

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You know, after the January 6 incident, they banned anybody from claiming that there was election fraud on social media. We live in Arizona, so we get it. Well, we'll start arresting them and stop them one way or another. Love that. Thank you. You know, right after the January 6th's resurrection, Facebook implemented a policy. You can't say that Joe Biden stole the election. But people are still saying that off Facebook, and so it's time that, you know, they start getting arrested.

Thank you very much. I'm not sure what country they think they live in where they can say such things, right? I agree. I appreciate that. You know what? They keep making claims about... Oh, trust me. Yeah. We're going to start arresting them.

Facebook implemented a policy after the January 6th riot that you can't make election fraud claims. But there's still, people are still saying those kinds of things face-to-face. Do you have to be, like, 18 or so? Yeah, you're too young to be. That kind of thing. If you can't say it on Facebook, why should you be able to say it at the dinner table? Yep. Thank you.

They're undermining our democracy by making such claims, and we feel the best way to stop that is to arrest them. So we just help to support the calls. I need a few more signatures to stop them. After the January 6th insurrection, Facebook banned any talk of election fraud. because it undermines democracy. Just print here, birthday and a signature. Have you seen they changed the terms of service? You can't say that widespread election fraud caused Joe Biden to win,

but people are still talking about that kind of thing offline. And so we're going to stop them and save democracy by having them arrested. Thank you. Thank you very much. Are you hungry, boy? Yeah. You hungry? Yeah.

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We're going to play some clips from him calling into radio shows. He does this and really has a big effect with Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and many others. He's also an author. People wonder why is it that these guys won't talk about these issues, and it all goes back to Operation Mockingbird, which was started back in the 50s. And this is, again, this is not just me saying this or Alex saying this. There was a congressional hearing back in the 1970s in the mid-70s that uncovered that the CIA was paying reporters to plant stories and also gatekeep.

And so you wonder why these issues don't make it out. I mean, now it's just admitted that the Pentagon alone spending $5 billion on domestic propaganda and buying reporters and planning stories. That's why it's everywhere about you love America, then love the military and join now. Here's a quote directly from the Church Committee investigations as the report published in 1976. So this isn't me saying this. Alex Jones saying this. This is directly from a congressional hearing from the published report, and it says, quote, the CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA,

and at times influence public opinion for the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers, periodical, scores of press services, and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and foreign media outlets. And back in the 70s, they were paying hundreds of millions of dollars a year, And now it's tens of thousands. That's why there's CIA recruiting ads everywhere. They're just taking everything over. Here's a quote from an individual back in the 70s that was involved with Operation Mockingbird.

Thomas Braden, he was the head of the International Organization's Division, which is an element within the CIA that basically implemented this operation. And he openly admitted after the hearings, quote, if the CIA director wanted to extend a present, I think he called it, supposed he thought this man could use $50,000. He's working well and doing a good job. He could hand it to him and never have to account to anybody. There was simply no limit to the money he could spend,

no limit to the people that he could hire, no limit to the activities. It could decide. And today we have the Army going around for two decades we know of, buying off most of the mayors and police chiefs. All right, he's with us for the hour. He's a hard guest to get the mighty media analyst, Mark Dice

His new book as of yesterday I'm sure it's even higher today He's done no interviews until now Gotten zero reviews from the media Payed zero dollars in marketing And his new book is number four On Amazon's bestseller list today And the book is

I've been reading it I'm almost done The War on Conservatives by Mark Dice So congratulations to Mark Dice on this big hit Obviously I'm going to play some of the old clips the new clips. It's hard to get Mark on because he's such a busy guy. Mark, great to have you on. What a crazy time to be alive. It's wild that I've known you. That was a clip we just played from 14 years ago.

I've probably known you 16, 17, 18 years. Mark Dice, it's so good to have you. Where should we start? Yeah, it's great. I wanted to make sure that the audience, the radio audience, understood that that clip of us talking about Operation Mockingbird was from 2009. And so, yeah, I think the first time I was a guest on your show was almost 20 years ago. It was 19 years ago. I think it was 2005. And for those who don't know, Alex is largely responsible for launching my career because I came across to him on the internet before the days of social media back in the old bit torrent days, finding some of his documentary videos about Bohemian Grove and clips from his radio show back then, which he was recording video of. And he was generous enough and saw the potential in me. And I just want to thank you again for this.

And I wanted the audience to understand how long that you've been doing this and how much you've helped other people behind the scenes. In 2011, I had a book that was coming out called Big Brother, Your Wellie Nightmare Come True. Alex was generous enough to front me the money to pay to print, like 10,000 copies or something of that book, and bought a bunch of them in advance and then helped me sell them. And that gave me enough money to quit my day job. and then go full time as a media analyst. So I just want to thank you again for that, Alex.

Thanks, everything. Mark, I want to thank you, and I want to thank the audience. We're in a war. When I recognize talent, I'm going to promote it. It's beautiful. And now you've reached hundreds of millions of people conservatively, and now everything we talked about is coming true. Now Elon Musk sounds like Mark Dyes.

Tucker Carlson sounds like Mark Dice. I mean, but you're an OG. Like you said, 19 years, brother. You're an OG, and it's just great to see. you're still fighting and doing a better job than ever. You know, the success from my book isn't really about me, it's about the power of social

media and what the technology has been able to do. And as we know, the empire struck back after Donald Trump was elected in 2016 because we used the technology in order to communicate and build huge audiences. And that was really before most of the algorithm manipulation,

before the censorship, before them boosting the search results for mainstream channels in on YouTube and in the other platforms. And so the fact that I'm just able to announce that I have a new book on YouTube and it gets to the top of Amazon's bestseller list, again, with no interviews, with no promotion, first interview that I've ever done, Alex knows I rarely, if ever even do interviews. I make an exception for him about once, maybe twice a year.

But that shows also how fake the mainstream is because you see all of these other people that have books that come out that are supposedly bestsellers. And they get reviews in the New York Times, and they do interviews on all of the major shows. They do the entire circuit. And they still can't top what a guy in his kitchen on a laptop was able to do. And the fact that Alex and I have been talking about Operation Machia Burr for 20 years, him probably even longer. And the fact that still, the mainstream conservatives still don't get it. You know, I don't understand how we have had seven, eight years of people talking about fake news.

the deep state who has talked about it. I mean, this is Operation Mockingbird to the 10th power. I mean, it's right in front of them. Sorry, go ahead. And also, yeah, now, it's admitted. We have the evidence. It was done in a congressional hearing. So it is strange that none of the Fox News pundits,

none of the conservative, Inc., social media, circle jerk punts, will address Operation Mockingbird. And they'll talk about the fake news. they'll talk about the deep state. There's a term for it. There's a program. And just like every secret government program and the FBI and the other alphabet agencies, when they get caught and it's fully admitted, then they say, okay, well, we did that, but we won't do it anymore. And even the congressional hearing of Operation Mockingbird was a cover-up.

You know, the senators involved later said that that was actually just a limited hangout. They didn't want the American people to see the extent of what it is. and they also had in that report a discussion about how Operation Mockingbird not just controlled the media, literally paying reporters and pundits and editors under the table to act as propagandists and gatekeepers. They funded the publication of books. They literally had Ghost Writers writing books. They would pay to have them published. They only mentioned one of the books in the Operation Mockingbird Church Hearing report,

but they did admit that they would have their ghostwriting book. writers reach out to publishers, pitch manuscripts, pay for them to be printed, had their operation, Mockingbird. Sure. And when you go to the bookstore or you go to an airport, whatever the incaps are, whatever they're pushing at you is literally CIA controlled. Keep going. This is why someone like Cassidy Hutchinson, who most Americans have no idea who she is, those

who did see her testimony during the live hearing of the January 6th kangaroo court, forgot about her because she was that surprise. some low-level staffer that worked in the Trump administration who claimed that Donald Trump, you know, tried to grab the steering wheel on the car to force the driver to go to the Capitol when they refuse to take him there. So she just had to book come out a few weeks ago. It was number one on every bestseller list. She did the rounds on every liberal media outlet as if she held the secret key to bringing down the Trump administration. And her book, by the way, contradicted some previous testimony of hers because obviously she most likely didn't.

even write half the book. It was just done by a ghostwriter. She'll sit down with interviews. But it's books like that. And books like the ones trying to take down the Trump administration. Remember the anonymous, a warning by anonymous, which turned out to be some operative in the Trump administration who was working admittedly with the Democrat resistance to try to undermine the Trump administration later revealed his name. But he got a book deal. And it was this number one bestseller talking about how a Trump administration official, is trying to work within the system to stop him from, you know, destroying the country.

These are all Operation Mockingbird programs. And so I'm glad that you played that clip of us talking about it in 2009. Someday, maybe the mainstream conservative pundits, although there's not much hope for Fox News. Now, Tucker's not there, will actually address the system, the admitting program. Mark, I totally agree because we know that Obama set up a stay-behind network. we know he put all this in place, expanded a mockingbird to try to block Trump,

and we finally see some weaponization hearings and some censorship hearings, but they're only scratching the surface. It's like how stupid can they be? But the big takeaway is, when my book hit number one on all the charts, New York Times wouldn't put it number one. So we know those charts are all fake.

The real charts, Amazon, you're at number four as of yesterday. I don't know what it is today. All the King's horses and all the Kingsmen and all their billions in funding and can't meet Mark Dyes, which shows how weak they are, plus what a great rider you are. And I appreciate that. And there was a major glitch.

The launch was quite a disaster because when people search my name on Amazon, that book doesn't even come up in the top search results. It's buried way, way down, the war on conservatives. And then even at least 10 minutes ago when I checked before this interview, when you finally find it and click on it, it takes you to a dead listing that says it's not available because it shows a hardcover listing. Yeah, I don't think that's on purpose. Just like Musk said, he's trying to clean out all the sensors, but they're just, they're embedded. So it looks like when you find it, you click on it, it looks like it's sold out, and it says unavailable. We don't know when it's going to be back in, and you have to click the paperback button, and then it will show that it's in stock. So, I mean, even of the people who find it, half of those people are going to think that it's out of stock.

Okay, so they can't see. We want to make it number one, but they can get it from you directly, though. Well, they can, I don't sell it directly. We have to get it from Amazon. But, you know, go to my Twitter account, and my ex account, and it's in the biography. Well, by the way, I've been trying to buy some. So as soon as I get some from you, we'll sell them.

Yeah, and there was a glitch there, too. I couldn't even order copies until yesterday. And it's a big. I understand. It's what they do to you. So you have a 4.9 review. Believe me, when my book hit number one last time, they took our bank away. We know how it works.

Folks, because they're weak. They do this because they're weak, not because they're strong. So, so tell us about it. about the book. I got it last week. I already read half of it. It's amazing. How to tell us about the war on conservatives and then tied into all the current craziness. Give us your prognosis on what's about to happen in 12 months. And this is the most epic time to ever be alive. This is so edgy your seat. We're in the final year. The last year, the 365-day countdown until the election.

So the book on the surface kind of appears fairly normal. Oh, yeah, I know there's a war on conservatives. They're attacking us. But it goes so much. much deeper. And I even want to hint at in this interview because there are certain topics that are so hot that the mainstream conservatives won't talk about them. And you kind of start to see patterns. You start to notice things. You see articles and you see quotes.

You see certain things in the media that slip through the cracks. But it's essentially a track. It tracks what it is that they've been doing, attacking not only censorship on social media, we know about that, undermining the family, attacks on Christianity. I mean, did you ever think that? we would be seeing supposed Christian churches holding drag queen story hour inside of their church. No, are Black Lives Matter worship services? And Christians are, maybe recently, it might have changed with the dust up over in Israel,

but Christians are one of the most persecuted religions around the world. And it is commonplace now in the United States to attack Christians, to discriminate against Christians. We've seen numerous cases of restaurants canceling reservations for Christian groups, kicking them out of coffee shops, viral videos of them cursing them out and telling them to leave. Now, if that would have happened to any other group, a religious group, a minority group, there would be congressional hearings held. They would be sued by the Justice Department for discrimination. But when a Christian organization gets their reservation canceled because the owner is a leftist

and finds out that they believe in God, they're Christian. They oppose abortion. They oppose the LGBTQA's agenda. That's okay. And so there's a tremendous double standard. Then, of course, it gets into anti-whideism. And, you know, that's something, too, that a lot of people didn't want to talk about

because it's such a taboo subject to dare to say that. But you've been a trailblazer exposing that. The left is literally trying to create race-based politics. They have, and, you know, the oppressed, because, of course, black people were oppressed. Racism is terrible. Slavery was awful. but the oppressed to become the oppressors through the cultural Marxism.

And so they got so carried away at seeing what they saw as the ruling class, the white Anglo-Saxon people. And so the demonization of white people, everybody's been noticing it for years now, particularly since the Black Lives Matter insurrection of 2020 with George Floyd. But it's such a sensitive topic to talk about because just daring to say that there's a lot of black people that discriminate against whites that are racist. against white people. That seems as a, you know, a white supremacist talking point, but we've seen people like Tulsi Gabbard, who cited anti-white racism or anti-whitism as one of the reasons she left the Democrat Party with the leak of the manifesto of the transgender shooter in Nashville showing that that deranged lunatic was brainwashed by the cultural Marxism into believing that the white privilege and the crackers are responsible for all the ills in America.

then we have Senator J.D. Vance who tweeted out that, of course, this person was brainwashed by anti-white racism. And so it's finally becoming something that people are feeling safe to talk about. And I would just emphasis that there's a term for it, and it's called anti-whiteism. In the same vein is the term anti-Semitism. And a lot of people, just hearing the word racism, immediately makes people think of white people doing something bad, white people discriminating against black people or non-whites. And that's why the ADL even tried to solidify that as the definition, that racism is, you know, white people discriminating.

Whites are originally sinful because of their color, but they blew back on the Zionist and on the Jews, so I'm not attacking it, I don't hate, but I don't want them wedded with the liberals and then saying they're going to send all the Islamic refugees here into Canada. No, you're not. I mean, they're so great, you take them.

So I'm not enemies of the Jews. I'm not the Jews are a diverse group, but to have the ADL, the super powerful group quarterbacking, the censorship control, literally programming the critical race theory, teaching six-year-old kids, they're bad because they're white.

My daughter's homeschool, but went to a camp and was told at the camp during lunch over speakers that she was bad. She said, am I bad? I was white. That happened a month ago. I said, that's it.

The gloves are off. So now I'm Mark Dicing. And not because I hate people because what color they are a religion, but because I'm not going to be told are my children, I'm bad because what a color I am, Martin Luther King would vomit at that idea. And so look at the Nashville shooter.

We now get the documents. Kill the crackers, kill the blonde hair kids, kill the white privilege. That's why they suppressed it. That's a brainwashed white person, literally thinking killing white children is a win. That sounds like Hamas saying kill the Jews. I mean, look, I'm against any Holocaust, black, white, Jewish, Muslim, anything. I'm not here to be put on the menu for Holocaust, and the ADL is literally partially responsible for the stuff that's happening.

And that, of course, is one of their talking points for supposed anti-Semitism, saying that they're stoking some of this hostility by overgeneralizing people and attacking people. Then they try to twist that around and say that that's anti-Semitism. And it's interesting. There's a clip with Jonathan Greenblatt on CNN talking about how, you know, Demonizing Jews is dangerous. Well, of course, but why are they demonizing white people then?

Isn't that the same sort of slippery slope that you're getting down? You start blaming an entire group of people for the ills of everybody else. That's beyond a slippery slope. When I said the 80s like Hitler, I don't mean they're Nazis. I mean, Hitler was race-based saying a certain group is doing all the bad. They're literally saying white people, if you follow the banana pill, we're the reason it happened. And it's good to see people are tired of it. And that's why I would just introduce the term anti-whitenism, and that's really what it is, because, you know, if people say that, well, there's racism, they always have to make this distinction.

Hold on, we got to break. But it's clear. You coined anti-whitenism. I don't think I coined it, but I probably am one of the most, you know, I'm just, I see it. And it just, it's just, it's a big size. All right. Mark Dice is on fire as always. Get his book now at Amazon.com.

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center and the heart of the resistance. Rallying Patriots worldwide. We're listening to the Alex Jones Show. You know, they say as you get older, you become more nostalgic, and people you've known longer become more precious. And it's really true. Mark Dice is precious to me.

I've known him 20 years. I remember him coming as a fan of. Then I did out in California. I had already interviewed him a few times. And I was always a fan of him. And the great work he did. I mean, he's been there for decades, slaying. And so it's so important to get his book, The War on Conservatives.

If I don't plug my book, I won't be here. It's the last book going to number one on all the charts, and I put all the money back into this operation that kept us on air. The new books twice as long. It's the Great Awakening, defeating the globalist, and launching the next great renaissance. If you go to InfoWorStore.com, we have signed copies that are marked up as a fundraiser to know you kept us on air.

You can get unsigned copies. If you want to send it to number two, that's fine. I'd like to see the Great Awakening at number two, but I really want to see the war on Conservatives, number one, because you heard, and Mark's not whining. This isn't his fault. Amazon runs perfect for everybody else. Amazon won't so much censor your book, usually,

even though they're doing that some now. They're the last people who start doing it. They will just jack with it. And I don't think it's even Jeff Bezos, and they're not saying he's perfect. It's operatives inside the system, because so many times we'll lose a bank account. We finally get a hold of the vice president.

They go, no, that was done by underling your bank accounts back. So most of the time, it's not even the leadership. It's the operatives within the machine, the gremlins. And so you heard it. You go there. It's sold out. It's not. You got to go through because they're pissed because there's big groups spending hundreds of millions of dollars to push their propaganda, number one.

Not to make money off the book so that it's a talking point. That's why I explain the listeners. It takes money to win a war. You heard them a year ago in my bankruptcy. Jones has got $400 million. He hit it. He's going to jail. You hear that anymore?

It was never true. The most money I ever had in the bank was $8 million. And it was all meant as an emergency backup, and I wanted to launch a network. And then, thank God we had that money, because over the next few years, we spit all of it. It's okay for us to have money, but my goal's not money.

I have been offered a job by Henry Kissinger. I've met with Bilderberg group members. I was offered when Glenn Beck was about to come on the scene. The same job. They said, we've got a couple other guys who are getting ready. You'll have a Fox News show. You'll have quarterly books. You're going to do what we're going to say.

And I met with them, and they tried to give me a Fox News show as a test on Saturdays. They said, move to New York, do six months of a Saturday show. We will give you a nightly show. You are the next Rush Limbaugh. Roger Ales, you are the next Rush Limbaugh. This is 16, 17 years ago. And I said, I don't control my show? No.

And I'm on up here like, oh, aren't I nice? That's easy. Let me tell you, I can't control my mouth. And certainly nobody else can. And it's the same thing for Mark Dice. So when you get his book or you get my book, it changes the world. You want men to stand up? Mark's not going to sell out.

Mark's not going to back down. That's who he is. I'm not either. But we could give out. And so that's why this is so damn important that you get the Great Awakening, that you get the war on conservatives. because this is the reality. We're the champions. And I'm not up here like some badass, man.

They're a lot smarter men than me, but they all work in the system and they go along with it. They think they're winning. They're losers. But Mark Dice is my brother because he's a heretic. When you're a Christian in a satanic world, you're a heretic. He's a rebel. Outlaw country. Just because they sang about drinking and marijuana, Nashville said they couldn't have shows.

So Willie Nelson, Chris Christopherson, Wayland Jennings left to Texas, and within five years, were more than half the profits of country music that was the biggest thing in the 70s and 80s. Bigger than rock and roll then on many charts. I spoke pot with Willie Nelson. I'm not a big pot guy. I spoke with him.

We used to hang out all the time. I've been good friends Willie Nelson. His brain's kind of gone the last 10 years, so I don't go around much because, you know, his family controls him. But the point is that just being rebels made them number one. We're not rebels smoking pot and drinking whiskey, folks. We're rebels challenging the new world order. They're trying to put you in prison for it.

So I believe in you. I bet on you. I believe that when I covered documents and knew the globalists were going to implement it, that I'd be attacked at that point 20 years ago, but it would come true and that you would win. So I bet on you, bet on me, get the book. The War on Conservatives by Mark Dice and Amazon, pushing to number one and get the Great Awakening as well.

Mark Dice, please continue. There's a reason why the Alex Jones was right meme exists because you've been on the forefront of this for so long. And earlier this summer, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. started mentioning Atrazine. And so you are mentioned in the book because Robert F. Kennedy on several podcasts on Megan Kelly's podcast and on it was Lex Friedman's podcast or maybe it was Jordan Peterson's podcast, mentioned that he believes. And he's an environmental lawyer. Okay, so this is a guy who knows about pollution in the environment. Who's won some of the biggest lawsuits in history? And he said that he thinks that one of the reasons, perhaps the reason, is about the transgender epidemic,

and the gender dysphoria epidemic, is because of the atrazine that has been seeping into the environment. And, of course, that famous meme of Alex Jones from eight years ago, ranting about how he doesn't like him putting chemicals in the water there to turn in the frogs gate, he was talking about atrozin. And it's not only that. Also, BPA, you know, there's a famous clip of Alex talking about juice boxes having BPA in the lining, a lot of food products. And they've taken that out because people started to get worried because that's another endocrine disruptor. It's a synthetic estrogen.

And if you start looking into what that does to a fetus in the womb, it feminizes the brains of male. It bends their gender. It bends them. So it makes perfect sense. And they've even found the specific region of the brain that is responsible for gender identity, and sexual orientation. And if that part of the brain is feminized because of these chemicals in the womb that the mother is consuming, either through water or through BPA, which also BPA is in clothing, by the way.

So I'll get into that. And it's in the money. So let me ask that question, that moral question. We always heard, hey, we're born on this. I don't hate somebody because they're gay. I hate it when they sign on the communist agenda and targeting kids and become pedophiles, which by, oh, we're on the gay train. Now they can add on Satanism and the target clothing.

and I mean, I didn't believe it until I saw a gay parade, but my wife's dad had a heart attack six months ago. I'm in Omaha, and the gay parade goes by, and like a third of the T-shirts had Satan on it and devil and pentegrams. The point is, though, how do we deal with that? Because they've chemically, haemaphroditicly changed their brain. How do we morally deal with that? The medical establishment needs to start addressing the cause and the possible cure.

But you're not supposed to say that, If you say this, I'm interrupting, I'm watching you say this a year ago. Why aren't we giving kids that are confused that are biological males testosterone to make them what they are? Why instead of they're confused, we give them estrogen when they're 90% male but confused, why don't we make them male? Sorry. It appears that the cart, it appears that they're putting the cart before the horse because of some, like you said, small children, small boys thinking that they're women, you know, why don't we give them testosterone? your own. And, you know, when I did a video about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., talking about the anthrazin, a lot of comments were from people who tried to get on testosterone, that they're,

you know, older in life and they have low tea. And a lot of doctors apparently wouldn't even do it because they think that it's going to be some sort of a, like a steroid or something. So how is it that they can... But we'll give an eight-year-old a puberty blocker. You know, is it that they need to do operations on the body? Is it something that the body needs to be fixed? Or is it the brain? But, you know, some scientists who will, dare to even approach the subject, say that it's an ethical nightmare because if they admit, which all the evidence appears to be, the transgenderism and homosexuality as well, is a birth effect because of the brain region, the I and AH region of the brain, having the wires of a female,

then they're admitting that something is causing it, that it's not normal, that they're supposedly abnormal, and then that's hateful. And so you're not supposed to even equate that. Exactly. You said this. So chemicals give us. genetic birth defects and change brain chemistry and make them little shriveled males. And instead of supercharging them because these chemicals did this to them, we go, no, let's go further into the mutation and then certify that. It's celebrated as if it's an amazing evolution of mankind. You know, there have been various birth defects which have been discovered and are able to be

prevented by simple measures. Like women taking folic acid in a prenatal vitamin, which helps prevent spina bifida, which is a deformation of the spinal. You're talking about just one nutrient lacking in a pregnant woman's diet can cause a birth effect. So you can't tell me that all of these chemicals in the environment and in the food and in the clothes, by the way, because BPA is a, it's a plastic. And so what a lot of people wear in their clothes, especially to the gym, they wear synthetic

fibers. And so there was a study that was just done that showed that the BPA can get absorbed. absorbed in the skin through the clothes that people are wearing. And the juice boxes. At like 100 times or 30 times the level that the FDA considers it to be safe. Also, the microwavable plastic trays, they're fine when they're at 70 degrees. When you hit them up 200 degrees, they off gas synthetic female hormones. So it's going to take people who have the respect in the medical industry and pundits like Matt

Walsh, who, you know, has done great work, his film, What is a Woman? Absolutely fantastic. But if you watch it, and it is great, he only focuses on the social contagion aspect, which there may be some or a lot of truth to that, but he is completely ignoring the potential chemical weaponization of the chemical. No, you're right. It's nature or nurture. So 10% is nurture, 90% is nature. It's the chemicals.

And you've been saying that for decades. It's true. the chemicals and they know exactly what they're doing. Yeah, so there's a whole section in the book on the rise of LGBTQism, and that's another topic that a lot of people didn't want to push back on because they didn't want to seem to be homophobic. And so they kept their mouth shut for many, many years as it just continued to get more and more insane.

It went from, oh, okay, so they want to get married? Okay, you know, I don't agree with that. I think it should have been called the civil union. I think that they shouldn't have the equal rights as far as health insurance and visiting their partners in hospital and things like that. I was always against and still them against calling it a marriage. But then they gave them an inch and then they took a mile. And it wasn't really until last year in June and, you know, Pride Month that people started really pushing back.

And then this last June, people finally had enough, conservatives, Christians. Oh, yeah. This is a total, total UN social engineering, Tabasuck Institute, cult. What do you predict? I want Mark Dynaston, we've got your heart to get home. on. It was the first interview. We're very blessed to have you.

You've got to come on more, man. Come on. I know you got an idea of your better tape, and you are a little better tape. You're great live, so knock it off. I say this every time you're on. One interview you, Jones. But seriously, what do you predicts going to happen next? I think that society is going to continue to fracture.

I think that we're going in each different direction. Everybody's digging in because what do we have, we as in normal, liberty-loving people, whether you're kind of an independent or, conservative, a Christian, even the libertarians, although they kind of get into the weeds a little bit, but what do we have in common with the people who want to put the surgeries on the children? They want to castrate the children, put them on chemical blockers. They want to indoctrinate the kids in elementary school with LGBTQism, with gender identity, said that they might be a boy, they might be a girl.

Schools allowing gender non-binary teachers to have access to the kids. I mean, when I was in school, I'd say even back as far as fifth grade, if we had a teacher, that came out and said that they're not a man or a woman, the kids, we would have run them out of town. But now it's seen as normal. They're the high priest. They're the religious leader of the cult. So I see society fracturing. And I wouldn't be surprised if it might be 10 or 20 years if the United States breaks apart into various different republics or into two different republics.

because if the Democrats supposedly win the election in 2024, they'll stack the Supreme Court or they'll flood it with liberal judges, they're going to pass the Equality Act, which then businesses are going to have to legally acknowledge and respect a gender neutral or a gender non-binary person. They're going to have to allow people to use whatever bathrooms they want, whatever locker rooms they want. The states are not going to be able to pass laws that are going to stop that.

So what solution does a state have at that point, if the national law, the Supreme Law of the Land, the Justice Department is going to sue them, would be to succeed, really. But it should be, I don't think Republican states shouldn't necessarily succeed. We should really eject the Democrat states because we are the United States of America. They are the ones who hate our history, who hate the founding fathers, who hate the Bill of Rights. They are taking down statues of the public. So we can leave corridors of the roads to the cities and have like the men.

map where 90% is red and the rest is blue. But what you say is so key, they want a one-party state, they know they're losing, they're using science and weaponized psychology to take over, but it's backfiring, but they can't seem to give up. They just keep doubling down, doubling down, doubling down. Dumbling down. It's humiliated, like that guy in Canada that shop teacher who very well may be a troll who was wearing the bizarrely large prosthetic breasts.

I would say that he could be either way. He could be that delusional, but he also could be trolling just to see how far they would allow. And you probably saw the clip of the superintendent defending him. And so they've gotten so strange that they are humiliating themselves. And, you know, luckily we could get into maybe the restoration of free speech. Yeah, you got the floor. We'll only go, we'll do five minutes next hour if you can do it. But you got the floor.

Mark Dice, I'm going to ask the questions here. I've got all these other clips too that you sent. I mean, I can easily just do five hours of just your clips here, but just keep going here. Well, we persisted despite getting banned. And, you know, even though Elon Musk has some major faults, and, you know, maybe we can get into those. But he's done tremendously great things for Twitter, for X, allowing a bunch of, you know, thousands of accounts, other discussions to be allowed because they tried to stamp out any discussion about transgenderism that was negative. They banned books about transgenderism from Amazon.

But that shows how he's got skin in the game. They scalped his firstborn son. They got his son. That'll turn anybody against him. Yeah, this is personal for Elon. And I don't like to bring people's families into it. But Elon has talked about this publicly, and it's in his authorized biography from Walter Isaacson. One of Elon's teenage sons is now identifying as a woman and a Marxist.

So Elon has a personal axe to grind with Marxist. This is a personal mission for him. And so by lifting the ban on misgendering, which is using the wrong pronouns, lifting the ban, questioning vaccines, the safety of them or the medical establishment, he has brought free speech back to a major. Well, that's right. People say, is he good or bad? Judging he writes fruits. What he's doing is devastating. And I say that to all the globalists.

You're going to be destroyed by this yourself. Elon's a perfect example. He was going along with it until his brother almost died from a shot. They're going to castrate his first board son. And it's like, yeah, dude, nobody's immune. Join us. And that's why I think Elon's for real. Let me say this.

He and Rumble are going to have a very tough decision to make in the next year because they're going to face the real possibility of having their apps banned from the app store. Because Apple has control over that. And they're going to say, you're not going to allow these kinds of discussions or these individuals. And the EU is threatening to criminally charge him. Yeah. So they're going to be faced with a tough decision.

and I would assume that they've been working on this. They're going to have to do the model that Andrew Torbo use at Gab, where they've been banned from the app store for five or six years, where you can still use it as an app. Just like you can use the InfoWords app, I save the InfoWords feed on my phone and on my tablet just as if it is an app and then you press the button. It doesn't have quite the same functionality as an app,

but it's pretty good. So we have Rumble, we have Twitter, X, but they're going to be having a very good. very tough decision to make as the election approaches. And for some people, I'd say, well, they would never ban them from the app store. Well, you would have said that they would never indict Donald Trump, but they did that 91 different times. And even I didn't think that they were actually going to indict Trump. I thought that Mayor Garland was going to come out sometime next year, right before the primary start and say, you know, investigation's complete.

We found all this terrible evidence. You know, he's definitely guilty of the insurrection. But, you know, it's Justice Department policy not to indict if we're not confident we can get a conviction and that they weren't confident. get a conviction because somebody's going to hang the jury. And that's more evidence of his corruption because he's above the law because they can't even get a conviction because one of his supporters is going to hang the jury. So I didn't think that they were going to actually indict, but obviously they did. So now we're facing the formula is false so many that they'll think they'll get one.

And things are going to get really dirty. I mean, we're already seeing some of the, you know, want to be Ron DeSantis influencers. They are supporting Donald Trump going to prison because it's almost like politics. is like a mafia in a sense. They see Donald Trump as a liability, just like John Gotti saw the mafia Don. Forget the guy's name,

was the head of the Gambino family at the time, saw him as a liability, and so they took him out. And then they go on as if nothing happens and continue with business as usual. And so you're seeing a lot of Ronda Santis, supposed influencers, they're really hoping that Donald Trump goes to prison

in order to stop him. And, you know, the Ronda's supporters, I mean, have some legitimate criticisms of Trump, of course. I mean, nobody's perfect. But at this point, I saw from day one, Ron DeSantis getting in the race as stabbing Donald Trump in the back. That's not to say that, God forbid, something happens to Donald Trump.

By a miraculous feat, he actually loses the primaries or ducks out, which I don't think he's going to do in some plea deal to try to avoid. That's my next question. What do you predict happens with Trump? And what do they do about Biden? I mean, they got Axel Rod on TV, all the Democrats, saying, get out of their Biden. but Biden won't leave.

So how is that going to shape up in Mark Dice's brain? They painted themselves into a terrible corner that there's no easy way out of because if Joe Biden ducks out and gets replaced by Gavin Newsom, the Democrat Party is going to look terribly weak because usually the vice president would pick up that baton and run with it. But Kamala Harris has no support. She was a diversity hire. She dropped out of the presidential race in 2020 early because she couldn't get any funding.

She had no support. She had less than 2% in the Democrat primaries. is reviled. It would be one thing if he ducked out and then everybody would rally behind Kamala Harris as taking the baton in trying to continue with the Democrat Party agenda. But

she is terrible. Nobody likes her. She's uninspiring. And then if they replace Biden with Gavin Newsome and then have her still as the running mate, that's still going to make them look weak. And the time is running out for that

for Gavin to get on the ballot. in certain states. And so I don't know. I don't think anybody knows. I mean, it could get to the point where at the convention, maybe if Biden has a health issue, the Democrat delegates will nominate Gavin Newsom, and then they can write it off as. Or God forbid, they assassinate Biden to make him a martyr. He might have a health issue or, you know, an instigated health issue. So I don't know. And, you know, it's very possible that Donald Trump could get convicted. It's going to be very difficult because if Donald Trump gets convicted,

it's going to be horrible. They're going to try to throw him in prison. I mean, maybe they would give him a house arrest or put him at a military base for security. But if he beats the charges, there's going to be riots like we've never seen. If he gets convicted and then wins on an appeal,

there's going to be riots from the Marxist. So bottom line, the next 12 months are going to be the most insane ever. It's going to get more intense every day. Nobody knows what's going to happen. I mean, it's just And we're now one year out. We're now 365 out. And everybody says, oh, this election is the most important

but we've never had anything like this where the country doesn't have a sense of cohesiveness. Hands down, this is the most important ever. It's going to be, it's troubling. And you're seeing the rumblings of a lot of people who have been hoping that the country wouldn't collapse.

We have the financial crisis. We have the anti-American Americanism within the own institutions. We have been flooded by millions and millions of illegal aliens and legal immigrants as well who don't have any allegiance to the United States or to our history, to our culture. And so this isn't going to be like past depressions or conflicts where the United States is the big one. We're in trouble, man.

The United States is in big trouble. And I don't think anybody has the answers other than to keep it local. And that's why I kind of conclude my book with some of the solutions is, and if we got, if we're running out of time or I'll keep this quick, as a whole, the country's in big trouble, but locally,

and from going to city council meetings and trolling like Alex Stein does, I learned that there's a very small group of people who make the decisions in your local community, who go to the city council and persuade them and run and get on the board. That's why the Fed said about the school boards. Everybody should be at all these local televised events. Then they feed, It's like calling the C-SPAN.

And I think they're weak link. You said you've done it too. I need to do it more. We need to go to these city council meetings. It's local. Get on the board because running a national campaign, very difficult. Running a local campaign in a small to even moderate-sized city of 100,000 people, fairly easy. You know, you can rally your community, your support, and you can do it.

And one thing during the COVID lockdowns, sheriffs are elected. Okay. Now, police chiefs are appointed by the mayor. But sheriffs are elected, and even in California, even in counties in Los Angeles, the sheriffs would not enforce the governor's lockdown mandates and allow businesses to stay open. So if in Los Angeles, you can have a local sheriff who is, again, voted in by the people, defy the tyrannical laws of those above him, then we can work locally in the schools and the community. Absolutely. We have the truth. Do five more minutes, two minute break. I want to talk about the COVID lockdowns. You nailed it there.

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So, Mark, us going back, me knowing you at least 19 years. how surreal is it to be alive now and to be living through what we predicted and then just finishing up with the point you just raised earlier in the last segment that look how we backed off the COVID. They tried to relaunch the COVID protocols just like I predicted and our sources told us but we backed it off.

So as bad as things are, people are really waking up right now. It's amazing. I mean, you know, you saw the New World Order, the patterns emerging years ago, the document and have been trying to warn about it, and that's why the Alex Jones was right, meme was born. And it was same with me. I mean, I stumbled across your work back after I graduated college and saw a lot of the same patterns learned a lot from you as well. And so it's vindicating to say, yeah, we knew this.

We've been trying to warn about this. But it's also scary because some of the points are far worse than we even imagined. I mean, I don't think we even could have imagined what they were going to be doing in the schools and with the children. And we knew that, you know, kind of has the end-times approach that Christians were going to be persecuted. but nobody could have ever really imagined the just the abominations. Yeah, we knew they were going to come after parental rights and children. We didn't know they'd try to cut their penises off. And going back to some of the solutions, again, locally.

The country as a whole is going to be in big, big trouble. And so, you know, we can elect local officials. We can get on the school boards. We've seen it happen during the COVID lockdowns. And with some of the parents finally seeing because of the remote learning what it is these kids were being indoctrinated with, that was a big wake-up call as well. So as the election approaches, as we started, with some of the results last night,

it's not just on a national scale, so we're going to have to get organized with what's called a local election guide, which a lot of local Republican parties put together, because when you go into vote, most people don't even know who half of these positions are, so they just skip it. They're not paying attention who's on the city council and which the sheriff is and the judges and all these things.

So there are certain groups, conservative groups, in your cities, which will put together those guides for that. And getting back to the book, in the church hearing document, that exposed to Operation Mockingberg in the 1970s. They admit not only that were they funding books that they knew were commercially unviable just for the propaganda purposes, but they acknowledge the CIA that a book is one of the most powerful forms of transmitting knowledge,

more powerful than a radio broadcast or a newspaper, and it's because it's a deep dive into the material. And they admit that books are the most powerful device for changing people's views regarding political issues in the long term. And so for people who should get the book, get mine and get Alex's from Amazon, and then that way the algorithm will hopefully link them up so that it'll be recommended. Then when you go to look at one, it'll show the other one right next to it. And we're up against a tremendous machine.

We're making some progress. Thankfully, we have Twitter is free. And have you noticed one of the things that I think people have not talked about enough is freeing of the trending list on Twitter because remember all these bizarre fake trends that created these self-fulfilling prophecies, all the invented LGBTQ holidays, all of the garbage Marxist topics that they would manually insert in order to create a self-fulfilling prophecy to try to get people convinced that those were actually popular so people started talking about them. And the Twitter files revealed something else interesting that didn't get enough coverage

that it deserves. And that is the fact that the military was using Twitter and bot accounts in order to create and drive narratives and have fake discussions. That was exposed. That's called Operation Earnest Voice is the software that the military uses. Now, that term was not in the Twitter files, but they did admit that they whitelisted the previous ownership, whitelisted the use of the military using fake accounts and bots. Totally illegal. Mockingbird 2.0. Totally vindicated. Mark Dice, The War on Conservatives by Mark Dice, Amazon.com. Mark, dot once a year, damn it. Join us again, at least every few months. We love you, brother. Talk to you soon. Thanks for your defense of the First Amendment. I really appreciate you.

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I got a few other articles I want to hit before our guest toast. takes over here, but I wanted to play another clip for all of you. I thought this was a meme when I sent it to the crew this morning. Then they found the clip, this is real. This is Zelensky, who's the dictator. He's outlawed all the other political parties, put the Christians in jail, all of it. This is Zelensky's clip nine is now directly asking for public loans, promising he will pay you back after the war.

I thought this was a AI joke. This is real. If you can't give us, can't give us some financial support, okay, okay, please, give us a credit, and we will give you back money after the war. That is not a joke, ladies and gentlemen, that is absolutely real. Now, I want to play a clip too. This is Senator Josh Hawley. Facebook was ignoring child sex abuse material on their platform. they were gleefully censoring free speech on COVID and school board meetings at the behest of the Biden administration. That's clip two.

Here it is. It's filed by my home state, Missouri v. Biden, landmark First Amendment case, in which two federal courts, federal district court and a federal court of appeals, have found that Facebook, among others, actively coordinated with the president administration to censor First Amendment protected speech, not this garbage that is not protected by anything. in our Constitution. But First Amendment protected speech, here's what gets me. What the courts found, this is in the record, this is factual findings, is that Facebook devoted all kinds of resources and people, actual human

people, to doing things like monitoring posts on COVID-19 vaccine efficacy. There's one example of a parent in my home state of Missouri who wanted to post something about a school board meeting. Facebook used human moderators to go and take down that post. That was important.

That has to come down. We can't have them post about school board meetings for heaven's sake. But the things that your daughter experienced, this ring of pedophiles, rings plural, that Facebook just can't find the time for. They just don't have the resources for it. That we just have to leave to, you know, let the market have its effect, let AI do its job.

We just don't have the resources for it. They had plenty of resources to censor First Amendment speech. No resources to protect our children. Absolutely unconscionable. And that's their game plan. The censorship is for everybody. AI run. That's why I accept anybody being censored, you get censored.

Even the most hated speech should be protected. But once they censor you, they can lie about you and say you said things you never said in Trump's case and my case and many others. Syndicated talk show host Kate Daly with her special guest takes over now.

Hey, thanks Alex so much. Appreciate that. Yeah, we have a lot going on today. But I do want to concentrate our efforts in this hour with my special guest Jonathan Hollerman. because this is an important topic. We have obvious open borders. We have the airports full of illegals down on our southern border.

Intelligence is now prepping us, literally prepping us, that there's lots of lapses going on. Maybe, you know, something big's about to happen because of, you know, their lapses, which I don't believe at all. And now we're realizing that an EMP is very possible because they need a big event, right? There needs to be a big event, right, to tie us in and get us emotional. about what's going on in the Middle East, too, and about the fact that they have control over this country right now. But what I'd like to talk about with Jonathan Hollerman is not only how to prepare for this, but how to maybe stop it from happening in the first place. And I think Jonathan's on a mission to make sure people are very awake so we can stop this from going on in the first place. So Jonathan Hollerman, griddownconsulting.com, and also EMP Taskforce.us.

He is the deputy director, U.S. Task Force on National and Homeland Security, former military, SERE, survival, evasion resistance, and escape instructor, best-selling author on preparedness, electromagnetic defense task force, senior fellow at Impact America, Secure the Grid Coalition, president of Grid Down Consulting. I could go on and on for an hour. Jonathan Hollerman, welcome. How are you? Great, Kate. Thanks for having me on.

You bet. I'm excited to talk with you, because this is such an important topic and people aren't talking about it enough. And I really feel like I have felt as though this is the thing that could happen here very easily. And I have a feeling you probably agree with that because we haven't done much to shore up ourselves from this going on. What is the state of our country in, where is the state of our country, kind of a state of the union, if you will, on where we're at right now in and even preparing for this thinking about it, doing anything about it, Where are we at as a nation? When we're talking about that, I assume we're talking about the potential of a nationwide griddown event or a large-scale grid-down event in this country.

And if I were to grade the government at this point, I'd give them about a 5 to 7% success rate at this point. We spent over 20 years. The Congressional EMP Commission warned Congress in 2004 that a failure to harden American as electric grid and protect the American people could result in up to 9 out of 10 Americans dying through Starvation. disease, societal collapse, because this type of grid down event isn't a short-term disaster. We're talking potentially being without the grid for multiple years before the first high-voltage transformers come up. So since that time, the federal government has done next to nothing. I was a member of the Electromagnetic Defense Task Force, which is a joint military wargaming

operation. All the alphabet agencies were there. And we spent three days war gaming a long-term grid-down event in this country. and the American people need to understand that there is zero government plan, there is zero military plan, and there is zero plan at FEMA to deal with a nationwide grid-down event. So the legislation that we've tried to get through going all the way back to the Shield Act with Trent Franks almost 20 years ago, every time we get legislation into Congress, the electric utility lobby, they come in and they basically crush it. So we're in a spot where the American people don't understand the threats that this country faces.

This is America's Killies Hill. And if we don't take it seriously soon, it could be very, very catastrophic. Let's talk about the electric grid and why it hasn't been hardened. Let's talk about electric utilities. You just brought that up, the lobbies. Will you expand on that a little bit more? Sure. So when you go and you buy a car, every car has to have a,

seatbelt. When you get on a plane, you just are reassured that the FAA is looking over those planes. When you buy a can of soup at the store, you just trust the FDA's inspecting those canning facilities. What most people don't realize, the electric utility industry is the only and the last industry in this country, major industry, that has zero federal regulation and oversight into it. So they basically write their own critical infrastructure protection standards they enforce their own critical infrastructure protection standards through an organization called NERC. That's a North American Energy Reliability Corporation. And that is kind of their overarching lobbying organization, but it's also their enforcement mechanism.

So how this works is an electric utility company will write their own SIP standards. If they break their SIP standards or cybersecurity, they're required to turn themselves into their own industry. their own industry sets the fines. They pay the fines back into their own industry, and we are not allowed at this point to find out who's breaking what critical standards, because as of the last couple of years, Chief Mass Sergeant Mabaybby was sending a bunch of FOIA requests, and they put a stop to that because they now say it's national security.

So we're not even allowed to know who's breaking the own standards they wrote. So you have this organization called NERC, and not to make it confusing, this isn't Sesame Street, but you also have FERC, which is a federal energy, regulatory commission that oversees them, but they have no legislative authority. They tell NERC to do things all the time. NERC sometimes takes it. Sometimes they don't.

But the federal government cannot force the electric utility industries to harden the grid. And I'm happy to talk. There's a lot more in depth into that and why and kind of the reasons behind that. Yeah, you can expand a little bit. I feel like we don't really realize all the red tape, all of the things that prevent anything from happening that could actually stop this. But it's all kind of embroiled into these little acronym agencies, right? I mean, there's so much of this that you have to go through to try to get anything done at all, correct?

So it's just mired in red tape. It doesn't matter if we're talking about the DOE or FERC, all these agencies that are supposed to be looking over the civilian electric utility industry. that it's a revolving door with retirees and industry lobbyists and executives. It's a revolving door with government, just like a lot of other industries. But that's one of the issues. I can give you a billion reasons right off the top of my head. That's because the electric utility lobby has spent a billion, that's what to be, dollars just in the last 10 years, and that's just lobbying in D.C.

That doesn't include all the lobbying to do at the state level. So they spend more money than big oil lobbying in D.C. the only industry that's got them beat is pharmaceuticals. So, and this isn't a political issue. It's both sides of the aisle that take their money for re-election campaigns. And that's basically what we see. We get bills into committee and they just get either completely watered down or defeated on the back end before they ever make it up for a vote. Talk to me about the Chinese transformers.

Yeah. So that started probably about three or four. four years ago. Transformers, just a side note, the high voltage transformers is the Achilles Hill of the American Electric Grid. They weigh about 400 tons each. There's about 3,000 of them in this country. We only replace about 12 of them a year, and they come from South Korea and Germany. They've always come from allied nations. We don't actually make them here, which is a big problem to begin with. But a few years back, a company jumped into the market called JSP based out of California. And it's, you know, a subcompany of JSP in China, which is a high voltage transformer company that also has ties to the Communist Republic of China.

And their leadership, and Michael, maybe again, through FOIA requests and through research has made a lot of these ties to these two companies. And they are the same company. And so the electric utility, they started undercutting our allies, the transformers we were buying from our allies. and so the electric utilities started buying them. And about, I think it was three or four years ago, the Trump administration confiscated one of these high voltage transformers at Port, sent it to Sandia National Laboratory. Now, it's classified we don't know all the details of what they found,

but we know for a fact the National Security Council has gone on record saying that they found back doors where China could basically shut down or destroy that transformer remotely. immediately the Trump administration put an executive order into place saying that we're no longer going to buy critical infrastructure, critical infrastructure supplies from China, which seems like a no-brainer to me. And Biden's first day in office, he got rid of all Trump's executive orders, including this one. So, you know, as of right now, that same company that we know, that we know for a fact is building back doors into high-voltage transformers. that could be accessed from China remotely. They're still selling them.

They're still being implemented. At last count, again, Chief Mike, Mass Sergeant Michael Mabes got, he tracks how many are in the country. I think it's something like 20% of New York and Las Vegas are controlled by these Chinese transformers and they're scattered throughout the country. So this is just, it's kind of absurd that we know what they're doing

and we're still using this equipment from this company. And not only back doors, if something goes down, In order to fix it, they hold the cards. They hold the parts. It's almost impossible to fix. Yes? Yeah, these high voltage transformers, they're built specifically for each location.

I mentioned they're 400 tons. They take 24 to 36 months to build, which is why it's so dangerous if an EMP, a solar flare, a massive cyber attack, or some kind of event takes out these high voltage transformers. the first one onto our shores for at least two years. So at minimum, this country is two years without electricity. And today, every aspect of human life revolves around electricity, every aspect, every critical infrastructure in this country from natural gas to electricity to sewage, to the banking. We're talking about no, no TV, no internet, no heater AC in your house, no interstate trucking, which is the big one, which means no food gets resupply at the grocery stores.

So whatever food is in your town, whatever food is at your grocery store, and that's looted three days later, there's no more food that's going to be getting delivered. Gas pumps don't work. There is no interstate trucking. You're looking at large cities that have their red lights and their lights are all going to go out. And so you're going to have gridlock traffic. The police aren't going to be able to get around. 911 doesn't work. The police radios and the fire department radios don't work. even if they could get somewhere. There's no water pressure in the water mains to even put out of fire. I mean, I lived in many years in the city of Pittsburgh, and there's a lot of old row houses. And I mean, there's entire sections of town.

You know, if it's wintertime, somebody tries to do something to heat their house and a house catches off fire, you can lose entire sections of that city from fire. So this is a very serious, very real threat. Like I said, the electromagnetic defense task for the EDPF, we studied this for days and days and days. and it was just a completely eye-opening thing for me. If you don't care, I'll keep going on some of my experience there as well. Please. Please do.

Because a couple of the big things that shocked me, that was a wargaming event, LeMay Wargaming Institute down at Maxo Air Force Basin. The last one here was 2019. And a couple of the things that came out of there is our Nuclear Regulatory Commission. and they don't have, they only have on, they're only required to have up to seven days, unless it's changed since then,

seven days of backup diesel on location for the diesel pumps that keep the water flowing over the spent fuel rods. Okay. So if you don't know, all the spent fuel rods from a nuclear facility have to be kept on site. You have to have consistent water flowing into those cooling poles or it's going to overheat.

it's going to steam off and then you're going to have an explosion. You're going to have a Fukushima. So we found out that their diesel generators had never been EMP tested. If that's not the biggest oversight in history, the one thing we want running, those pumps, because we have 99 nuclear facilities in this country. So those had never been EMP tested. Like I said, they only have seven days of backup diesel on site to fuel those pumps. And the big thing for me was they had a civilian conference.

contract for resupply. We just talked about no trucker is going to drive from Texas and drive across the country, even if they could, there's no way for them to resupply. We're talking gridlock traffic in different areas of the country. They're going to have to go through cities with potential ambushes for that fuel. I mean, obviously people are going to be desperate and looking for resources like that. So this idea, even if they did get the first shipment seven days in, which I'm not convinced that they could get it to all 99 sites, what happens after that?

What about seven days later and then seven days later after that? They didn't have much food. At the first year, they didn't have any food, but we convinced them to put some food and cots there for their, there has to be a minimum amount of people pushing buttons and pulling levers to keep that facility functioning. It's not a lot of people and they need a security team there at each nuclear facility. And what we discovered was they put stuff there. And I brought up the point, I was like, you know, if you expect these people, these critical, critical people to stay there, you have to bring their family and their children in, too. Like this idea that some guy out of the kindness of his own heart, when there's looting and riding, the world's falling apart, he can see the town over the hill where his wife and kids live is on fire.

That guy, that gal is going home, period. The security team, they're going home at some point to check on their wife and their kids. So, you know, and they're like, oh, we can't do that because of security clearances and, you know, it would be too difficult for children. And I was kind of like, so what? Just put the extra food and cots there. Just put it there and, you know, make it a game day decision after the fact. But I don't know. There were so many things at that conference that I discovered.

The complete lack of any kind of centralized plan to deal with this type of event means that, you know, the Hollywood movies where there's box trucks rolling down, passing their MRIs, none of that stuff's going to happen. The military bases are 99% relying on the civilian. electric grid. They've warned Congress if we lose the electric grid. The military has said that they are unable to function. They have less than 48 hours of backup diesel on their facilities. They have their food comes on a truck every two days onto the base, just like everywhere

else. They have civilian chow halls. None of that equipment is going to function and even cook the food. There's just, there's so, and we're just scratching the tip of the iceberg of how devastating a nationwide griddown event. And we just can't seem to get the legislators to. take this seriously and harden our grid. When Russia's already got their grid,

hardened China's hardening theirs. Israel's got a mostly hardened grid. They've been working on that for a while, but we're the one country that's most susceptible to this, that we're not really doing anything. I have a feeling that those that actually run the country really like it that way. And, you know, we talk about like a nuke attack on a city

because they're doing it in the whole country. So obviously we could shoot that down. But a nuke attack, or we talk about a nuke attack. or we talk about some of these things that could come, but this is actually the one thing that could come that isn't talked about. We have the wheel of fear, the ridiculous wheel of fear. You have people wearing masks all over the country that look like total morons right now because they're fearing a germ.

This is what I fear. This is the real wheel of fear, is what happens a week later, what happens when all of this comes down? Because we've seen internet outages, especially around election time, which is kind of interesting. And we see all these internet outages. is we see the FCC doing a vote next week about taking full control. King Dingling in his administration taking full control over the Internet.

But the Internet is a small slice of this. What happens when even just that happens, we see havoc. So can we even imagine what it looks like a week later after a total EMP with no facilities, no sanitation, nothing going on? And I can't even imagine that. And so when we come back after the break, I want to talk about what people can do. And I mean, seriously do, because there's a lot of ideas, build a fortress, do all of these things.

But you actually have some ideas that are probably a little bit less talked about, things that we don't really get into on the air. And I think that this is going to be really interesting for people to listen to because there's a whole other side of this is think this out kind of mentality. What does it actually look like? What should you do? What kind of place should you be in? and that maybe doesn't draw attention. And also, what are some of the things we can do as communities? Because the last thing I'm going to do is rely on the FEMA,

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. I'm Kate Dally, your guest host from the Kate Dally Show. Nice to be with you today. And, you know, a sobering topic. I mean, I don't, you know me, you know, jump off a bridge race. but at the same time, this is actually a real fear instead of all the wheels of fear that the government hands us. But I have Deputy Director, U.S. Task Force of National and Homeland Security, Jonathan Hollerman, who's on with me today.

And an important guest, because you need to listen to where we're at right now as a nation, because an EMP attack could remain anonymous. It could be devastating. It could take our nation down. And I don't think we realize the fallout. In fact, there is a obviously cause for concerns when it comes to supply chains because that's one of the biggest things that would happen as well. And not only that, but straight up violence. So there's a lot of things that can happen. And I kind of want to walk through what a week like this looks like after an EMP attack.

And there is a documentary grid down, power up documentary. Will you tell people how to find that, Jonathan? then? Sure. The best way to find that is griddownpowerup.com. It's a fantastic. It's a one-hour documentary that lays out where we are at as a country as far as not having a hardened grid.

And they provide solutions on the back end. If you watch that documentary, please share it among your friends and family. On the back end of the website, they have the ability to write letters to your legislators to try and convince them to act on this legislation. It's a fantastic documentary. It's narrated by Dennis Quaid. So everybody, I would highly recommend that everybody check that documentary out. Excellent.

Thank you for that. And so grid down, power up. And also, I have to give a shout out to the novel series, 299 days by Glenn Tate. He wrote kind of some of the scenarios that could happen. Obviously, can't take our guns, so they would just make them illegal. Or dip into everyone's bank account because banks aren't something that you can go to and get your money. out of, right, in a case scenario like this. So, gee, the government would just like to use that for a while and then never give it back to you. Those types of scenarios. What does this look like

seven days in that I don't think people are prepared for? What does an EMP attack in our country look like seven days in? Sure. So I'm not 100% sure what the situation was with 299 days or like what the catalyst was, in other words. But in the case of a long-term grid down event, by EMP, solar flare, a cyber attack, or even a physical attack could bring down the national electric grid. What we're looking at, the everything stops. The congressional EMP commission called it a continental time machine, sending us back 200 years civilization. But we do not have the life skills. We do not have the infrastructure.

We don't have the horse drawn plows, the Pony Express. We don't have the telegraph system. We just don't have any of that today. So what you're going to see is everything basically just stops where it's at. There's going to be a ton of confusion because, again, I mentioned, you're not going to have cell phones. You're not going to have TV, internet, radio. There's going to be no information floating around. So the first day, I would expect the first night, your typical looting and riding that would happen in this type of event where people are stealing sneakers and TVs and that sort of thing.

But going on to day two, night two, day three, you're going to be looking at the grocery stores getting cleaned out pretty quickly. People are going to figure out this situation is different. Everything's not working. A large, yeah, a large percentage of the electronics could be destroyed. So you're going to see people panicking very quickly. And after that first three days, let's talk about the police and the firefighters and the hospital workers and all the people, the linemen, that keep everything functioning. We just talked about the people that work at the nuclear facilities.

At some point, all these people that we trust rely on to maintain law and order in this country, they're going to go home. Like I was mentioning the police, their radios aren't going to work. The 911 system isn't working. And the big cities, there's going to be gridlock traffic because the lights work. A certain percentage of cars, if it was an EMP, are going to be dead in the middle of the road. It's just going to shut everything down. Even if they could arrest somebody, the jails aren't functioning. the water and sewer and the lights aren't functioning.

I'm sure the judge probably isn't coming into work after day two or three. Just what do you do? And the firefighters, they're not going to be able to function. At some point, these people, justifiably so, are going to go home and take care of their immediate families. And I don't blame them for that. Same with hospital workers, nurses. They're going to run out of supplies, the backup generators if they've been needed an EAPR and are going to run out after a couple days. And the hospital is going to be overwhelmed.

it's just going to be a very terrible situation. And we're just talking the first three or four days, right? So if you start fast forwarding forward, you get to two weeks, three weeks, when most people at that point have eaten through all the food in their house. I mean, the rioting and looty is going to escalate and escalate because there's no police, there's no military, there's nobody to put that kind of event down.

So that's going to be escalating. Violence is going to be escalating. when people really start running out of food, this is where most Americans, the legislators, the utility, etc., is they don't get the aftermath. They don't understand what's really coming for this country. At the end of the last EDTF, General Kwaft, and the leadership had asked me to write a report.

My background as a Sears survival instructor. I had some experience with going without food and dealing with people, putting them in a hundred situations. But I spent many years, researching starvation. I read Phillips and Bardo, the Minnesota Sarvation Experiment, looking at different psychological studies,

but more importantly, looking at history, the Hallamador, the Chinese famine, the Bengal famine, the Bosnia, the conditions in the Warsaw Ghetto. And so they asked me to write a report for military training there at the Lemae Wargaming Institute on starvation. So I have that report.

It's free to download. It's 122 pages long. It's called Grid Downs. death of a nation, the psychology and physiology of human desperation, starvation, and living without rule of law in a prolonged grid down event. I realize it's a long title, grid down, death of a nation, okay? But the point is, is I wrote that 122 page report to basically paint the picture that nobody else seems to be getting of, people just think like we've evolved past the caveman days, that we're all going to stand around, hold hands, sing kumbaya, and we are going to

you know, fix the problem and we're going to work together. And I would agree that is true. As a nation, we proved that time and time again for the first week or two. When people, when people start to actually starve to death and die, there's no amount of central planning that's going to hold that together. So, yeah, I, that is my mission in life, that that report is kind of the culmination of my life's work. I mean, I've written five of their books on this topic. but that report you can download it for free at EMP Taskforce.us or my site griddownconsulting.com. I recommend read it. It's heavy reading when you start looking at the firsthand accounts from some of these periods of time and history where the society is there.

They had life skills. We don't even, yeah. I know. The Bosnia was great. Their social cohesion was amazing. Yeah. The Bosnia one was scary because it talked about the government going down. quickly and everything becoming so chaotic.

And it really kind of pointed to the fact that you don't, building the fortress thing is an interesting idea. What are your thoughts on building? I know we only have about a minute and a half left before we go to break, but we are going to attack this on the other side of the break too. But what are your thoughts on building a fortress? That's the first thing people want to do. Right.

I consider that building the alamo, and I believe it's probably going to end the same way the alamo is. I believe your best chance, if you read that report, you're going to see the biggest threat to your life is going to be lack of feud, lack of food and threats from other two-legged people, right? The less human interaction you can have in that kind of environment, the best chance of long-term survival of you and your family. So yeah, I'd be happy to talk more about it on the back end.

To draw attention to yourself is not something you want to do. And if you have a generator and no one else does, everyone in the neighborhood is going to know because they're going to be able to hear it. And the other thing is, in Bosnia, they actually made made their homes look like not a fortress. In fact, it was almost like, don't look here kind of situation because you don't want people in that scenario. The other thing was any trading that goes on,

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I know there's a lot going on today, elections and all kinds of stuff happening today. But you know what? I think actually this is the one thing that they could do and get away with doing and it would impact our entire nation. And that's what's scary about this. I have Jonathan Hollerman on from EMP Taskforce.us. And he is the deputy director of the U.S. task force on national and homeland security. And of course, griddownc consulting.com and a host of a host of different things. There's documentaries.

You have a new book out, survival threat too. There's all kinds of really wonderful things that you should be immersed in to try to plan for this. Some of my favorite movies, Jonathan, end with the citizenry doing something unique, not planned on. You know, you don't see it coming and a plan of sorts to surprise those in power, right? And when they come up with things that can combat what is being done to them and they can band together, utilize smart ways to win no matter what's thrown at them. And that's what we're going to have to do in a case scenario like this, especially when it gets down to really hard times in this kind of scenario. How to train for this. What kind of equipment should we be, should we have, should we

concentrate on? Hand crank radios to communicate or how do we communicate with each other? How to band together as neighborhoods? What's your advice on these types of things? How do we train for this? Well, you asked about 14 questions there. So as far as an overarching, how do we train for this? I think education. So I would say this is kind of part of the problem in the preparedness community is a lot of times people operate their preparedness in fear. They will hear of some coming. Obviously, we're talking about a very horrific type event that we could face in our lifetime.

and people get scared and then they rush out and they just start buying stuff and they start doing stuff. Any general that's looking at a battlefield or planning a battle into the future, he wants every piece of data on that battlefield, the troops that are going to be facing, what are the weather conditions, he wants every piece of information before he starts planning. And I would say the same is true of this. Before you rush out and just start buying all those things that you just mentioned, you need to understand the operating environment and the world you're going to be facing

because there's a lot of channels out there that are going to scare you and then sell you something on the back end of that, right? So, yes, I am kind of preaching a scary message here, but my message is to go out and learn more before you start buying stuff. So with that said, I think a couple of the big threats that people need to understand is the chances of surviving this type of scenario inside of an urban or suburban environment is going to be very, very difficult.

I mean, you alluded to the Bosnian conflict and you were telling some stories. The number one book I recommend that people read. One of the number one top books I recommend is Selko Begovich, The Dark Secret. of SHTF survival. He lived in a modern city in the late 90s that got cut off from resupply. They were surrounded. And he talks about how it fell apart street by street, block by block. Eventually, warlords took over.

I mean, a couple caveats to his story is the fact that they did get occasional food drops and drops. And you were able to negotiate with warlords for some food. But everybody was starving. Everybody was eating moldy bread. So I don't want to twist it either. And there were horrible atrocities that he witnessed that the American people aren't prepared to see and to experience. So, I mean, that's a fantastic book on this topic.

But one of the things that he said at the, I think it was in the preface of this book, was that if he had the ability to go back and do it over, he would have gotten out of the city before that was surrounded and the power was cut off. He was young. He wanted to see how things were, he wanted to be part of history and see how it went down. But if he could go back, he would have gotten out. out. And that's my philosophy as well, is your best chance of surviving this particular scenario. I'm not talking about if there's a hurricane you need to run to the mountains. But if this type of scenario happens, a long-term grid-down event, I just earlier mentioned, the first transformers

aren't getting here for two years. We're two years without power. And most people don't have the ability to take themselves out of the world we live in, their normalcy bias, and imagine a world a year from now where 90% of the American people have died from disease, starvation, violence, warlords are running the city, cholera, dysentery, these are common things again. This, you know, multiple cities burning down to the ground just because they can't put the fires out. There's so many, we're scratching the surface. So, again, my philosophy is, is if you try and build a fortress in the middle of that environment, yeah, you may, you may last longer than your neighbors. but at some point, there's going to be a bigger, badder group that's going to come along, and somebody's going to be eating the food you put away for your kids,

and you're probably going to end up in a ditch somewhere. So I know that sounds harsh, but a lot of these people that are really pushing the urban prepping myth for this type of long-term scenario, I would read the report that I mentioned that I wrote, and I think your opinion on living around 50, 100, 2 million people surrounding you, is probably going to change. Have a way to get out. Griddownc Consulting.com, by the way, and EMP Taskforce.us, the other resource as well.

And he's got a wonderful new book. Survival threat too, right? Survival theory, too, yes. Three, too. Sorry about that. I'm the name murderer, so there you go. But I look at some of the things that you just talked about, and that is get out, that is, you know, don't wait around.

People want to think that they're going to garden once something like this happens, but like me, I kill fake plants. So it would be a very difficult thing for me to do to start gardening once everything goes down. There are ways you can garden in your own home, though. There are things that you can utilize in your own house and ways to garden in your own house. But again, a lot of it utilizing electricity. We don't realize how much we are dependent. And when you were talking about the past, we are so dependent on electricity. And so we think we're smarter and better than all the people that lived centuries ago, which is so untrue.

We're actually just more dependent than anyone else in history without realizing it. Yes? 100%. Every aspect of human life today revolves around electricity. And people just don't understand the gravity of that statement. But nothing functions. We just don't have the life skills back in the early 1900s over 3,000. 30% of the population farm.

Today, it's less than 2% of our population feed the rest of the other 98%. And I would say the 2% that grow those farms is large-scale farming and they don't have the knowledge on root cellaring and, yeah. Yeah. And think about the fact that you go and you think, well, I can go get another tank of gas and I can get somewhere. Can you? Because those rely on internet too.

So if you have a place that's far away, how are you going to get there? And, you know, is it reverting back to pioneer times at the very least? Who knows? It's just that I know that when people are in this circumstance in a hurricane, I had a sister-in-law that was, and she said, my whole day revolved around cooking one meal, one big meal, and it was the entire day that it took to do that without all of these methods. And we don't sit and look at some of the equipment we have and utilize it.

We just save it for that rainy day. But that's pretty dangerous too. I mean, we should be in a situation where we're kind of living some of these circumstances, stances out just to see how everything works, shouldn't we? Absolutely. So a lot of people want to talk about survival skills and like there's this idea that you're going to go live off the land, live off the mountain like the legend of McDowd and everything's going to be just fine.

99.5% of the people that claim they're going to do that do not have, I've actually done that for long periods of time in my sear training. And most people do not have those like skills. And even if you could convince me, you know, you were raised by a pack of wolves in Alaska, left on the side of the road as a child. And you actually have these life skills. You can't convince me of the other 99% of the people in the same patch of woods as you that are fighting for every last deer that doesn't exist anymore. So it's just that's not a good strategy is to try and go live off the land. But as far, the thing you need to be focusing on are traditional life skills, gardening, canning, root cell.

These are the skills that our forefathers knew that that cross the great divide that we don't have anymore. And those are the type of skills that you. And one last thing, like a garden. Most people don't realize how large of a garden you need to grow to store to live until the entire next harvest season. I mean, you have to grow an incredibly large garden. You have to understand how to store it. And most people that buy a seed vault and a book on gardening and they think they're just going to wing it when this time comes, I got news for you. You're going to fail that first year and your life depends on it.

We need to get more prepared, spiritually prepared. We need to get physically prepared, get healthy. That's why supplements are a really good thing to have right now and also a lot of skill set on medicines. Medicines that are not pharma, which we shouldn't be on anyway right now. We should be taking ourselves clear away from pharma. Very dangerous. So thank you, Jonathan Hollerman. I'm so glad you joined me.

U.S. Deputy Director of the U.S. Task Force on National and Homeland Security, griddown Consulting.com, and, of course, survival theory, too, with a book, go get it. Thanks so much for joining me. Scary, but thank you. I really appreciate it on the Alex Jones Show. Thank you, I appreciate you. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it.

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