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Episode Date: December 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:16 Wars. Tomorrow's News. Today. And a tweet changed all of it? Can you imagine what the next two years are going to be like if every time the Congress works its will and then there's a tweet or from an individual who has no official portfolio who threatens members on the Republican side with a primary and they succumb? This institution has a separate responsibility based upon the separate. separation of powers. Members of Congress don't serve under presidents of the United States. It's Friday, December 20th, 2024. The clip you just saw is Congressman Richard Neal, a Democrat,
Starting point is 00:01:08 panicking and just apoplectic, talking about the fact that why Elon Musk and other people have sway with the population and X is allowing the population to come together and lobby their representatives to shoot down the continuing resolution spending bill two days ago. And we just can't allow them to put pressure on Republican lawmakers to do the right thing. That's how free open societies are supposed to work. That's how the United States of America's constitutional republic is supposed to operate the apple of the world's eye, the model in the last. 200 plus years for the rest of the world to emulate to have a free society. And they're just, they're saying, we, we can't allow this. We, we, we can't do this.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I mean, what was in that bill? Total medical tyranny, new quarantines, masks, martial law level powers, everything they couldn't get passed in the UN treaty. And then you've got AFD with the majority of the votes in Germany in the last election. And the current government says we're not recognizing that. We'll cover that in a moment. And then you've got Keras Starrmer in the UK blocking new elections because he knows his party's about to be voted out. You've got Trudeau's unparties saying they'll remove him in the new year if he doesn't resign.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It's happening all over the world. But in places in Europe where countries like Romania are saying we're anti-war, we're anti-globalists. NATO came in two weeks ago and said, fine. we're just disregarding your election and we control your intelligence agency. And so now we're just saying your election doesn't count. So the tyrants are really moving against humanity right now. But let's watch this clip of the Congressman one more time. Can you imagine what the next two years are going to be like if every time the Congress works its will and then there's a tweet?
Starting point is 00:03:11 And what Congressman Neal just said is the standard. statements, not just here in America, but by the communist politicians in control of Germany, by the globalist communist WF puppets up in Canada, the UK, Ireland, everywhere. They're all just, we can't allow Elon Musk and the population to do this. And Elon Musk just came out and endorsed AFD in Germany and said, you know, they're the real government. So you cannot stress enough the incredible job that Musk has. doing what a game changer is. Some people say, well, why do you gush over Musk?
Starting point is 00:03:50 I mean, without him, we wouldn't have got Trump in. And he just continues all over the world in Latin America, in Europe, in Asia, in Africa, in Eastern Europe, everywhere to expose the New World Order agenda. And he put out a post on Next Today, just explaining that it's about giving the population a place to congregate and organize and unify for populist vision and ideas. We're going to go to break in a minute. I'm going to come back with more on this global revolution that's happening. It's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:04:21 The global system really is in free fall collapse right now, but that's why they're so dangerous, and that's why more attack of missiles rain down inside Russia today. And so, yeah, we're winning, but the bad guys are launching a new pandemic. They've got big nasty plans once Trump gets in for civil unrest. We'll lay it all out straight ahead, because exposing their agenda is what will stop them.
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Starting point is 00:05:58 Thanks for keeping us on the air. From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones. It's Friday, December 20th, 2024. I'm your host, Alex Jones. The globalists are losing on every front. Every one of their different policy initiatives is running into massive populist resistance. We are seeing anti-globalist, pro-freedom, pro-capitalist, pro-Western national sovereign parties surging and winning all over the world. We have Elon Musk coming out and endorsing AFD in Germany that's been winning the elections and should now be in charge of the Bundestag and the parliament.
Starting point is 00:06:54 But the other parties have gotten together and say, we're just disregarding you. And they're trying to now ban the AFD. And then if you look at what's happening in the UK, Karat Starmor is talking about canceling an upcoming election because his party's got less than 20% approval ratings. He's got about a 15% approval rating. Obviously, the main party
Starting point is 00:07:13 up in control of Canada with Trudeau is now calling for him to resign, saying he will be removed early in the new year if he doesn't because the public is absolutely pissed and awakening to Trudeau's WEF austerity initiative and all the
Starting point is 00:07:30 carbon taxes and the casualty society and censorship and it just goes on and on in Latin America and Africa and Eastern Europe. All of these different patriots are getting elected and that's why we see politicians and different globalist puppets from Australia to the U.S. So we can't allow this and we can't allow the people to be organizing and saying no and shooting down our legislation. I mean, why we just had this big pandemic legislation in the continuing resolution spending bill and and and and Elon Musk and the public got mad about it and stopped it by by threatening
Starting point is 00:08:04 the primary the Republicans that were going to go along with it. Yes, the people are exercising their power. We don't want medical tyranny. We don't want all this globalism. And now NATO has started bombing Russia with the tackams again. You're watching footage from earlier today in Rilsk-Kursk. The city was bombed by NATO. U.S. made a tack-hom. Missiles, reportedly other missiles slammed into other areas of Western Russia. Again, this is a serious escalation with only 31 days left until Trump is in office. You've got Biden arriving via Marine One yesterday, even unable to speak. Harris running back from vacation in California to the White House.
Starting point is 00:08:53 They're in total disarray. They're trying to launch a new pandemic announcing. Bird flew emergency in California to try to get political control of the people's minds. They're accelerating open World War III and the danger of nuclear war with Russia. And again, as soon as President Trump gets back into office, the Democrats have announced they're going to try to trigger race-based civil unrest is some pretext to drive him from office. This is all official. These are the crises they're cooking up to try to maintain control of body politic. and to try to stop the global political realignment that is happening,
Starting point is 00:09:34 that no one denies, even the bad guys, they don't deny this is happening. So a historic time, a very serious time, a very dangerous time, but also an extremely exciting time. And the InfoWords, viewers and listeners, the activists, you are recognized by the bad guys as the tip of the spear, as the main focal point, getting the truth out that then becomes the talking points for everybody else, including Elon Musk, Donald Trump, and others. So get this report out.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Owen Troyer is about to take over, live transmission. I'll be back with more coming up in a little while. Please stay with us and share the live feed to the show right now at Reloogh Jones on X because you are the Paul Revereers, you are the resistance. Ladies and gentlemen, we are live inside the Info Wars World Headquarters in Austin, Texas. It's Friday, December 20th, 20, 24, Owen Troyer sitting in for Alex today. He will be sending reports in from the road. We have major developments going down in D.C. right now, at the Capitol, right now.
Starting point is 00:10:36 There was supposed to be a vote hours ago on a new bill, continued resolution bill, didn't happen. So I'm going to give you the update on everything that's going on. And then I'll tell you the most likely outcome as we are just hours away from a government shutdown. The original bill, 1,500 pages plus, was basically a Democrat bill. It was a Democrat sponsored and written bill. Deep State, big government bill. Mike Johnson decided that was the bill he was going to roll with. It was so bad he couldn't even bring it to the floor for a vote because of all the outcry, not just from we the people, but from Republicans in the house as well.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Chuck Schumer is now suggesting we go back to that bill. So if you had any doubt that that was a Democrat bill, remove that doubt. And I'll show you what Chuck Schumer had to say coming up here shortly. You then had Johnson circle the wagons forced to present a second bill for a vote last night that was still over 100 pages, but removed a lot of the agenda items,
Starting point is 00:12:07 like the global tyranny for pandemics, the medical tyranny, the censorship operations, the protection for the January 6th committee criminals. A lot of the political agenda items were removed. A lot of the spending items remain the same, virtually the same. And then it increased the debt limit,
Starting point is 00:12:29 which is something Donald Trump is requesting. And we'll explain that when we tell you what's about to happen today. Well, that bill failed on the floor last night with more than 30. The number is 38 Republicans voting against it. And of course, all the Democrats voting against it as well because they were hoping that we could go back to their original bill with all their political items in it. The censorship, the medical tyranny,
Starting point is 00:12:58 the protection of the January 6th committee, criminals and more, which they want to go back to again today, but that's not going to happen. Now, behind the scenes, the Freedom Caucus had a third bill that was 22 pages long and was as clean as it gets with a continued resolution and then funding the Farm Act, the disaster relief for the hurricane victims, and the military. 22 pages, never made it to the floor. Johnson wasn't interested in it. Was questionable whether it would get the votes or not.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It didn't have the votes on the Republican side. They were going to be a couple short on the Republican side. They might have been able to get a couple Democrats to vote for it. That's kind of unknown. The Democrats are moving in unity right now, unlike the Republicans. But that's simply because they have an agenda to get that original bill passed with all of their political items, political agendas inside. of it. The fact that we haven't had a vote or a bill presented yet tells me that the
Starting point is 00:14:11 situation with Speaker Johnson is so bad, he has virtually no command over the House Republicans whatsoever. Now, there's been a lot of chatter back and forth. The Trump supporters, the populists, have had a bit of a split, a bit of a chasm last night because Trump, endorsed this bill. A lot of people wanted that bill last night to pass. And now they're upset with the 38 Republicans that voted against it. Well, here's the truth. That bill was not physically conservative.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And as a precedent, I think it was the right thing to vote against it. Now, I've heard both sides from Republicans that I think are good and conservatives and pro-America, pro-Trump, not corrupt. saying why they should support it or why they shouldn't. And now everybody's going back in time and looking at things these Republicans have said passed about George Floyd or Donald Trump or Steve Bannon. And so I get that. And now it's turned into this game of political whack-a-mole instead of dealing with the real issue. And this is the real issue.
Starting point is 00:15:34 We need single-issue, single-page bills, period. We need to embrace a government shutdown. And I find it ironic. The same people that are promoting Doge as a concept with Vivek Ramoswamy and Elon Musk, who have proposed cutting up to 75% of the federal government, are complaining that 17% of the government might close if this bill doesn't pass.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I just don't get that. if you're serious about Doge, then you should be okay with this government shutdown. It might be a nice little test run. Now, there are political implications here if the government shuts down. One being, and this could go both ways, but one being, okay, well, does this limit what Joe Biden can do in his final days of office? It just might. And then what happens on January 3rd when the new country, Congress shows up and they have to vote for a new speaker and they have to get new agenda items
Starting point is 00:16:55 passed. What happens then? It's very peculiar situation. I think it's a good thing. We should have a reset. There shouldn't be anything that happens before Donald Trump takes office or the new Congress takes office. Why would we want that?
Starting point is 00:17:13 And the issue with the disaster relief obviously is a real issue. But how are we going to sit here? and talk about, oh, and finger wag and finger point about not funding disaster relief, this is something that should have been done months ago. This is something that shouldn't even be an issue. But it is because members of this Congress, including Republicans, voted to give money to illegal immigrants. Where is all the complaining about that?
Starting point is 00:17:45 So we'll go back in time and look at tweets and statements from four years, ago about things Republicans said that voted against this bill to smear mud on their face. But what about the fact that just months ago, and even over the course of the last two years with this Congress, those same Republicans and the ones that voted to the bill to support the bill last night have voted to give federal money to illegal immigrants. And now you're going to complain because there's no disaster relief aid. No, that is a problem from years ago. That is a problem from months ago.
Starting point is 00:18:26 That is a problem right up to the White House. So, yeah, it's really tragic that now we have to sit here and use the Christmas break and the government shutdown and a continued resolution. And we are holding hostage Americans that are living in tents in North Carolina because our government is so sick and depraved that they refused. to have emergency relief for Americans and instead sent hundreds of billions of dollars to illegal immigrants. Let's just get that straight. That's your real issue here.
Starting point is 00:19:07 There will likely be a government shutdown. And the strategy for Mike Johnson is really just completely non-existent at this point. And it shows me that he really doesn't want to win. He wants the swamp to win. There's a very simple path to victory here. Very simple. and I understand why Trump wants to increase the deficit. He wants to increase his spending limit,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and he wants to do it now before he becomes president. But if you're going to be cutting all these federal programs and spending, then you're going to have more cap room anyway, so I don't really see it as that big of an issue. Plus, you're still going to control the House and the Senate when the next congressional session starts. So I don't really think it's that big of an issue now. and if you're a physical conservative, you really don't want it anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But put that aside, there's a very clear strategy for Mike Johnson to have a victory here. You propose as many as you want. If you want it to be two, three, four, five, whatever, as many as you want. Single issue bills, single page, single issue bills. And you have one per federal disaster relief for the hurricane. same fund from the original bills that have failed. You put a Farm Act bill out there, same agenda that you had in the last two bills. And then if you need some military stuff or some other things, single issue, single page bills.
Starting point is 00:20:48 And then here's what you'll have. Either the Democrats will be forced to vote against hurricane relief, against the Farm Act and then whatever other items you want to put out there or you can actually get the disaster relief get the Farm Act pass, get the things that need to be passed past,
Starting point is 00:21:14 and then government shut down, government doesn't shut down, who cares? I like the government shutdown. Some do, some don't. You can have it out over that. But if you actually want to have a political victory, that's what you would do.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And you should, should be able to pass those things with the Republican Party. And if he can't do that, then he's even worse than we think. But there are no indications he's going to do that at this current time. So imagine how sick that is, you could do that right now. You could propose a bill right now for disaster relief for hurricane victims. It could be one sentence, two sentence, three, two sentence, one page, one bill, put it on the floor and get the vote. But they're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Johnson's not going to do that because he, like the politicians we've been dealing with forever, would rather hold those hurricane victims hostage in a tent to try to get the rest of their agenda items passed. The rest of their spending items passed. That's how sick our Congress is. That's how sick our politicians are. and just because you don't like somebody in the Republican Party and just because they've said things and done things that might be completely despicable in the past politically,
Starting point is 00:22:47 sometimes they can still be right. So I get people don't like Chip Roy for things he's done and now Trump's against Chip Roy and people don't like Nancy Mace for things she's done and now there's a whole attack on Nancy Mace. Fine. But that doesn't mean they're not right here. And by the way, now Trump is basically saying
Starting point is 00:23:08 just go ahead and shut it down. So even Trump is caved. Mike Johnson needs to go as Speaker, and failing at this juncture is going to be the thing that does it if he's not already out. U.S. Speaker, Mike Johnson's future hangs in balance as he scrambles for a funding deal. What are you going to do? You're going to pose another couple hundred pages of legislation that nobody's read and then send it to the floor for a vote. People are going to vote on a bill they've never even read, which is just in complete violation. of the 72-hour rule?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Just give me a bill. I'll vote for it. Didn't even read it. Mike Johnson signals plan C reached to avert shut down Friday. That's what he was telling the press this morning. No vote. No bill. No plan C. And he won't even take the 22-page continued resolution bill that came out of the Freedom Caucus.
Starting point is 00:24:13 He won't even take that bill to the floor because he knows the Democrats won't vote for it. you might be able to get the votes from the Republicans on that bill. You might. You're going to have to do some negotiating, but you could get the votes from the Republicans on that bill. You won't get a vote from a Democrat. So good.
Starting point is 00:24:32 So bring it to the floor and let him vote no. Shut down looms as Johnson to roll out very similar spending package for Friday vote. Still haven't seen it. Senate Republicans fume over dysfunctional house amidst shutdown fight. Tells you Johnson's cooked. Johnson's cooked. Rand Paul suggests Elon Musk as House Speaker. If Akramuswamy's name has been kicked around as well.
Starting point is 00:25:08 More commentary from the Senate. Mike Lee, here's an idea. Whenever congressional leaders deprive their fellow lawmakers of a meaningful opportunity to read a bill before voting on it, we should immediately fire those leaders and elect new ones. The trick has been used for far too long. It's time to bring it to an end. Well, that's a direct shot at Mike Johnson. But it's true.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's true. And look, normally they just vote for this stuff and it just passes and we just go about our business. Not today. Not anymore. See, we the people actually get a say in all of this, don't we? Of course, this has Democrats fuming. Some Republicans fuming too. Like Dan Crenshaw, he's just gone into complete psychotic tirades the last 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:25:56 He's just completely lost it. Let's call their bluff. Democrats pledged to work through Christmas on funding to rebuff. Trump's demands. No, they won't. No, they won't. Please. Call their bluff. Shut it down. By the way, they want the shutdown too because they want to blame the Republicans. Thomas Massey says, this isn't complicated. Separate bills and vote on them individually. It's right. It's not complicated. It's common sense. It's what the American people want. One vote on the clean CR. One vote on the debt limit. One vote on the debt limit. One vote on.
Starting point is 00:26:35 disaster relief. One vote on farm bailouts. Individual bills for each issue. That's 100%. Who wouldn't agree with that? Well, apparently not Mike Johnson. He could do that right now. And he would get the votes from the Republicans, at least on disaster relief, farm bailouts. Debt limit and the CR might, there might be negotiating the needs to go down on that. But he can get the disaster relief. Make Democrats vote against it. Do it. What are you waiting on? No, you stand to reason.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Mike Johnson is actually working for the Democrats here. And that's probably why Chuck Schumer said this on the floor this morning in clip eight. Wonderful. Nothing like a little tech glitch. Oh. It's time to go back to the original agreement we had just a few days ago. It's time for the, it's time the House votes on our bipartisan, CR. It's the quickest, simplest, and easiest way. We can make sure the government stays open
Starting point is 00:27:56 while delivering critical emergency aid to the American people. And that's the other reminder here. So that dirtbag, that absolute dirty, rotten scoundrel rat, probably the biggest rat that's ever been seen in D.C. There's some big rats in D.C. You ever seen it? They crawl out of dumpsters and trash cans scurry around. Schumer walks around the Capitol. He's the biggest rat ever. And that rat is demanding we go back to the first original 1,500-page bill because it's the Democrat bill. It has all the Democrat agenda items in there, things that they probably would like to use before Trump even gets into office. The pandemic, medical tyranny, spying on American citizens, protection of the January 6 committee criminals. We've got more coming up on this issue.
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Starting point is 00:33:53 Extreme Mago Republicans are. driving us to a government shutdown. Do you see a world in which you might regret not agreeing with a clean dust killing? So that's Akeem Jeffries speaking to the media and they have these signs that they're taking to the floor
Starting point is 00:34:08 during the speaking times. It's a hashtag Republican shutdown. And it's so easy. It's not even that complicated. You don't have to be a political genius to understand how to defeat that narrative.
Starting point is 00:34:24 bring forth the single issue bills and make the Democrats vote against them. Bring forth the CR, disaster relief, the farm bill, and make Democrats vote against them. And then how are they going to say it's a Republican shutdown? But you should embrace the shutdown. The Republicans should embrace the shutdown. They should say, yes, we're serious. We're serious about Doge. We think the government's corrupt.
Starting point is 00:34:52 It has a very low approval rating from the American people. It's out of control. It's overspending. It's corrupt. So, yeah, let's go ahead and shut down the government. And by the way, when do we see debates like this when we send hundreds of billions of dollars in money to Ukraine? You notice how that's never a problem? We can send billions of dollars to foreign countries.
Starting point is 00:35:15 We can send hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign countries. Foreign wars. No big debate. No big struggle session. No big finger pointing, finger waving. Oh, no, that money just, oh, yeah, easy. Oh, foreign country, foreign war, send it away. But Americans need disaster relief.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Farmers need to bail out, all this stuff. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we got to hold on, hold your horses. We got to have a big debate here. We got to have a big congressional circus here. So here's the latest. There were multiple new bills proposed, one very similar to the yesterday's bill that failed at the floor. and then the Freedom Caucus bill that was 22 pages that had everything in it, very clean, very simple.
Starting point is 00:36:03 That was questionable whether it could have the votes, but it was a very small amount of Republicans, they would have to switch over to get to vote for it for that to pass. I'm told neither of these bills has the vote as of right now. And that's why there hasn't been a vote yet and nobody's gone to the floor. So what's being worked on right now are single issue bills, and it might be the four, that Thomas Massey talked about, a clean CR, a debt limit, disaster relief, and farm bailouts. So it's pretty simple here. You get the CR and then the continued resolution, see who votes for it, see who doesn't, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Then you get the debt limit, which was in the original bill, but not what Trump wanted. Trump put the new debt limit in the new bill because he wants to hire debt limit. So put that out there, see if it works. That probably is the smallest chance of passing. but go ahead and put it out there. And then if Trump wants to use it politically to decide who's with him and who's not, whatever, fine, put it out there. And then the disaster relief bill and the farm bill.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Single bills, single page, get it done. Now, apparently that's what's being worked on right now. The problem is the vote would not be able to happen until tomorrow because of the rules. So the bills that they've already had in the works could be brought to the floor today, but they can't get the votes. There are holdouts in the Freedom Caucus. There are holdouts in the Republican Party. They cannot get the votes.
Starting point is 00:37:38 So now, I guess, trying to avoid embarrassment, Johnson doesn't even want to bother bringing them to the floor. The Democrat Party is voting in unison, so there's really no chance of getting any votes there. And now they're apparently working on single-issue votes, but the problem is you can't vote on them until tomorrow. Now there's another development here. in that many members of Congress are threatening to leave at the end of the day today and start their Christmas vacation.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Now, if that's the case, you would have to get Democrat votes to pass any of the bills, because there will be Republicans that are threatening to go home. You will have to get Democrats. Now, the Democrats already said, we'll stay, we'll work. I don't believe them for one second. I think they're bluffing. But you could floor single-issue bills and get a vote tomorrow. Republicans are already threatening to leave.
Starting point is 00:38:42 They don't want to do that. So this is what's being negotiated. This is what's going back and forth right now on the hill. But again, they never have a big standoff like this over hundreds of billions of dollars for Ukraine. They never have a big standoff like this anytime Israel asks for a blank check. We never get anything like this. It's only when it's the American people. It's only when the government's supposed to be functioning for us
Starting point is 00:39:09 and our country's operations and infrastructure and disaster relief and farmers. No, then there's a big debate. Then there's a big standoff. But a foreign country, a foreign war needs it? Blank check. What do you need? Anytime you got it. So I'm sick of it.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And I think the American people are sick of it. So go ahead, shut it down. and all the hemming and hawing, oh, but the hurricane victims. The hurricane victims got screwed and got raped by our government months ago. The hurricane victims got ignored by our government months ago, and illegal immigrants were put at the front of the line. So don't give me this bull crap of holding the country hostage because the people in North Carolina were abandoned months ago, years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Same thing goes for the farmers. Hey, I don't like that. I'd rather the billions we spend on illegal immigrants. I'd rather the billions we spend on foreign countries and foreign wars and foreign citizens be spent on our farmers and our citizens that need disaster relief. Of course, who wouldn't? That's gone. That's over. We lost.
Starting point is 00:40:23 They screwed that deal way long ago. Now we got a chance to make it right. But it's not happening with this bill. It's not happening with this Congress. It's not happening with this white. House. I got all these clips from the floor last night, but the Republicans need to get in unison with one thing, and that's pit the Democrats against the wall. If you don't want to own a government shutdown, which I don't understand, they don't, it's so stupid to me. It's not even a real government
Starting point is 00:41:07 shutdown. It's like 17% of the government. Most people won't even know it. 99% of the population won't even notice a government shutdown. And, you know, to the people that will, I'm sorry, your government is completely corrupt. It's a criminal government. So, yes. It's, for those that might not get a paycheck or whatever it is, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:32 You have a complete criminal government. We got a problem here. Sorry. It has to be done. Has to be done. But the Democrats melting down. I mean, you got Democrats going to the podium
Starting point is 00:41:49 cross-dressing men. It's a dude in a purple wig dressed like a woman in a dress. It's a clown show. It's a complete nutter clown show. So the real process would be get the single issue bills to the floor, the Republicans that bail, those are the bad guys. Not the ones that voted against the bill last night. The ones that bail tomorrow and refuse to vote on single issue bills, they're the ones that need to be primaried because they refuse to do their job. And if you want to do this fight over who's responsible for the shutdown, then that's what you do, which apparently they want to do. Here's J.D. Vance talking about it in clip 12.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Mr. Vance, will you accept any deal that does not include a debt limit increase? Look, I'll say one thing. The Democrats just voted to shut down the government, even though we had a clean CR because they didn't want to give the president negotiating leverage during his first term, or during the first year of his new term. And number two, because they would rather shut down the government and fight for global censorship bullshit. They've asked for a shutdown, and I think that's exactly what they're going to get. What's the pop forward, Mr. Bands? They're not going to win with this current situation. If they want to win the argument on who's responsible for the government shutdown,
Starting point is 00:43:39 then they have to present single-issue bills and they have to show up. Otherwise, it's not going to work. Not that it even matters. Nobody even cares. The American people don't care. This whole government shutdown thing is this stupid little political game they play, this finger-pointing game they play. The American people don't care.
Starting point is 00:43:54 You ask the average American, they probably want it shut down. Here's Senator Mike Lee saying that Speaker Johnson's time is basically up after this failure, clip 13. Well, I don't think Johnson likes you now. Next time you guys see each other walking through the calls of Congress, he's going to probably kick you in the leg. He is a good man. He's a friend. He's been a friend for a long time. A great person. He's lost control of this process. Okay. And he's, this is, I don't know how he can remain in power. We need Elon or Vivek as speaker. He's a friend, and you just threw him overboard. Man, politics is tough, Senator Lee. It is, especially when you try to jam an entire country with the 1,500-page bill that nobody's read, and you try to trick them and bully them into do it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Some of us take that personally, Jesse. Yeah, no, I don't like it either. I think it's terrible, and we've got to stop doing it, and it's got to stop now. So there you go. Now, again, I've got these other clips from the process last night. I'm going to put those on hold for now, and I want to get to this big story out of the White House, because it explains the larger. issue of the Democrats in a way believing their own propaganda, but now all piling on Joe Biden since it's public information, but that he's falling apart.
Starting point is 00:45:24 But let's again just say this. Mike Johnson is going to have a decision to make. He knows as of 1145 Central, 1245 Eastern, they do not have a bill that can pass. They do not have it. they've had two bills that wouldn't pass one that failed last night they made some adjustments to the one that failed last night they don't have the votes there's a 22 page clean resolution bill
Starting point is 00:45:51 with everything else in it from the freedom caucus that doesn't have the votes now you might be able to get that passed but I don't think Johnson wants that bill so he's not going to bring that one of the floor he's not even going to try to negotiate with that bill but that that's basically his last shot is that bill from the freedom caucus to not shut down the government
Starting point is 00:46:10 because if they bring single issue bills tomorrow, they will not have the votes either because nobody's going to be there. And unless you can convince the Democrats to vote for your bill, you're not going to have the votes. So I'd say at this point the government shutdown is inevitable. And now you have to start looking at strategy, dealing with the new Congress getting sworn in on January 3rd, and really, and they're not going to deal.
Starting point is 00:46:41 the work. Most of these members of Congress are lazy anyway. So they're not going to do the work. But what they should be doing now is getting ready to move at light speed, starting on January 3rd, when the new Congress comes in. And then you got January 6th, the certification of Trump's victory, and then you got January 20th at the inauguration. You basically need to move at light speed in that small window. to actually get a bill passed, or you can just say, we're going to keep the government shut down until Trump gets into office.
Starting point is 00:47:23 But you better find a way, whoever the next speaker is, you better find a way to figure out who the next speaker is going to be, and then you need to find a way how to get Republicans to vote in unison like the Democrats are. Or this next administration is going to have problems. But the truth is, this is how our government was designed. this is a good thing. I enjoy this process. It shouldn't be easy to get things done in Congress, and it's been way too easy for them to screw us over for my entire life,
Starting point is 00:47:57 give billions of dollars to foreign countries and foreign wars our entire lives, open the borders, fund that, fund everything else, fund all their agendas, fund NATO, fund the UN, all the other bull crap. It's been way too easy. Shut it all down. Literally, turn the power button off, take the cartridge out of the game, and just shut it down, just reset entirely. Let's great reset this corrupt government. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:48:28 You don't need to increase your spending limit. You don't need to. You just need to cut your spending, and then you'll have more cap room. And Trump knows that. He just wanted to stick it to the Democrats, I think, with that spending limit deal as political leverage with the incoming administration. But let's look at the current administration. Notice the silence from Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Notice the silence from Kamala Harris. Now, Biden has been on and off a vacation last couple days. Harris has been on and off a vacation since she lost the election. And both of them have pretty much quit. I don't know who's running the White House. I don't know who's writing these pardons. Nobody knows. I don't know who's coming up with the policies right now.
Starting point is 00:49:20 There is some policy coming out of the White House. We'll explain that. But the Wall Street Journal published this story, which is weird. It has such a big impact on D.C., but, you know, it's the Wall Street Journal. How the White House functioned with a diminished Biden in charge. AIDS kept meeting short and controlled access. Top advisors acted as go-betweens and public interactions became more scripted. The administration denied Biden had declined.
Starting point is 00:49:47 So it's insiders, it's whistleblowers, it's people that worked in the administration, it's members of Congress, it's all these people talking, of course, they don't want you to know who they are in case political repercussions. But you also had O'Keefe Media Group that had National Security Council and other people going on undercover camera saying, yeah, Biden is, quote, basically dead, can't talk, can't walk, doesn't run anything. I'm beginning to wonder if that's all, like, kind of fake. like these
Starting point is 00:50:24 Biden administration insiders actually call O'Keefe Media Group and say, hey, do you want to catch me on a hidden camera? Like, I'll pretend I don't know it's there. Just send one of your undercover journalists over here and we'll go to dinner a couple times and I'll act like it's a normal dinner and I'll just kind of like spill the beans
Starting point is 00:50:43 and spill the tea and I'll just pretend like it's undercover and I got caught. But really, I'll just give you all the information because, I mean, there's dozens of sources in this story. there's been multiple people that O'Keefe Media Group has caught on hidden camera talking about this stuff. But so that's what's frustrating is, oh, now it's in the Wall Street Journal and now it's real. And now everybody in D.C. is talking about it.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Oh, my gosh, Biden's been declining. Biden doesn't run anything? Oh, my gosh. This is a disaster. It's a disaster. This has been the case since day one. Everybody's known this since day one. But now it's the Wall Street Journal. so now it's real. So who's writing all these pardons if Joe Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time? If Joe Biden is, quote, basically dead according to an NSC spy. Who's writing all of these policies?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Feds look to hire up to 1,200 new DEI bureaucrats before Trump takes office. They're just going to hire a bar. Salaries up to $310,000. We're talking about hundreds of millions a year in DEI bureaucrats coming in. Biden announces cancellation of another $4 billion in student loans. Totally illegal. Supreme Court ruled totally illegal, totally unconstitutional. Whose policy is that?
Starting point is 00:52:17 Who's writing that? In a short interview, he sat down with a media outlet you've never heard of. Nobody's ever heard of him. Midas touch. Just this left-wing hack group. Somebody forced Biden to go to an interview with them. They're trying to grow their profile ahead of the Trump administration. They have no audience.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Nobody knows who Midas touches. Nobody cares. So they forced Biden to sit down and do this interview, hoping they could grow some notoriety, some profile, so they can attack Trump for the next four years. But it's an irrelevant group anyway. But, oh, they forced Biden. He looks old.
Starting point is 00:52:52 He's confused. It's the worst he's ever looked. And he says, there's not a single thing he regrets about his disastrous presidency. Not a single thing he, oh, yeah, not Afghanistan. the spy balloons, everything else. Oh, no, not a single thing. All the vacation time. Hunter Biden laptop isn't real, but I'm pardoning Hunter for all the things on his laptop.
Starting point is 00:53:20 But now it's, oh, the secrets out in D.C. Biden wasn't running anything for the last four years. Biden didn't know what was going on for the last four years. It was a complete disaster. His age were running everything. His staff was running everything. It was all the Obama holdovers in Obama that was running the White House, the entire time running policy, foreign policy, everything else.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Oh, and the American media lied to the, oh, they lied to you again. But it's the Washington Journal, see? Excuse me, it's the Wall Street Journal. So now it's real. Now it's real. It doesn't matter. Everybody's known this for four years. It doesn't matter Biden has been clearly declining his entire administration.
Starting point is 00:54:06 They ran a coup against him, yanked him out after his horrible debate performance. Oh, no, it's the Wall Street Journal, and now D.C. is freaking out. Former CNN pundit apologizes for ignoring Joe Biden's obvious mental decline. Oh, Chris Kaliza, he's sorry. Oh, no, no, you lied to the American people about Joe Biden since day one. And you said it was a conspiracy theory. You said he was sharp as attacked. You said his age was his advantage. You said he won the debate. Everything else.
Starting point is 00:54:50 You've been lying since day one. But now the Wall Street Journal with its inside sources and members of the intelligence community on undercover camera all saying Biden is declining. Biden's basically dead. They've been covering it up for four years. No, they haven't. You've just been lying to us. Everybody's seen it. And now people are wondering, why is Kamala Harris canceling her trip?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Kamala Harris cancels California trip goes to White House. She suddenly canceled her trip to Los Angeles to remain in D.C. after Biden declined bombshell. So is it in response to the story? Is something else going on? Yeah, well, the story is this. Joe Biden has been declining for four years. He hasn't been the president.
Starting point is 00:55:42 And Kamala Harris is also done after she lost the election. So what you have is Chuck Schumer basically running things as far as the agenda is concerned. And then a bunch of Obama holdovers and staff members running the White House
Starting point is 00:56:01 while Joe Biden is fumbling around, bumbling around, nobody knows what's going on. The Bidens are running around, probably doing cocaine, selling the country out. But now, oh, now we can talk about it, now that he's on his way out. Well, what if you guys would have kept Biden in and then ran him and then gotten him elected
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Starting point is 01:00:40 Cream Jean Pierre had a press conference today, and I'm sure there will be plenty of interesting sound bites that come out of this press conference. But this one in particular, We'll put it all into perspective. As we're sitting here, debating about the continued resolution, debating about government spending, trying to get disaster relief, the farm bill, everything else. All this is going on.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Big debate over fiscal policy, fiscal conservatism, continued resolution, government spending. All this stuff. All this stuff. Listen to what the White House announced moments ago. You all saw the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation announced a $1 billion financial initiative to support conservation of the Ecuadorian Amazon. This is a result of the president's recent trip to the Amazon and a continuation of the administration's effort to support innovative ways to address climate change through sustainable growth and development without burdening countries facing financial constraints. Do you like to hear that one more time? Did you catch that?
Starting point is 01:02:06 Go ahead. Just in case you missed it. Go ahead, guys. Play it again. Earlier this week, as you all saw, the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation announced a $1 billion financial initiative to support conservation of the Ecuadorian Amazon.
Starting point is 01:02:24 This is a result of the president's recent trip to the Amazon and a continuation of the administration's effort to support innovative ways to address climate change through sustainable growth and development without burdening countries facing financial constraints. How many buzzwords did you hear in that little explanation?
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah, remember when Biden wandered off into the rainforest, literally? A billion dollars for the Ecuadorian rainforest conservation project. Struggling countries. Greenhouse gases, climate change, sustainable development,
Starting point is 01:03:02 a billion. dollars for the Ecuadorian Amazon. Where do you think that's going? You think that's going to the Amazon? You're an idiot. That's called money laundering, baby. That's called theft. That's called fuck you, American people.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I'm stealing your money on the way out. Is that that corrupt Brazilian president right there with him too? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. You can't even get disaster relief for Americans after Hurricane Helene. and this Congress will hold them hostage so that you have to pass a bill that funds all the other agendas,
Starting point is 01:03:50 the censorship, the global government, the medical tyranny, the protection of the D.C. criminals, all the other items. And they're holding American victims hostage. And then the White House goes out and says, oh, by the way, a billion dollars for Ecuador. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And I'm supposed to feel guilty because I want the government shut down. Give me a break. All these people screaming and hemming and hawing about, oh, we need to give the disaster relief money, so you have to pass whatever bill we give you, even if you haven't read it. Even if it says you have to offer us your firstborn son and your firstborn daughter, you got to pass it because of the hurricane victims.
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Starting point is 01:05:58 Now, check out the store. We now take you live to the Central Texas Commandsever and the heart of the resistance. And now, your host, Owen Troyer. To be a guest on Info Wars after a rant like that. Well, one man will tell you the answer to that. Robert Newcomb, he's joining me now. We're going to be talking about this drone story, how it all ties into AI and the future of government policy with Doge.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Foreign wars, foreign funding, it all ties in. But I guess, you know, it's the theme of the day here, Robert, everybody talking about what's going on in Washington, D.C. and I just can't take anything this government does seriously or the media, for that matter, that has been lying to us about Joe Biden for four years. Now they admit it. Oh, they just figured it out. They had no idea.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Now they're admitting it. Okay, so you're either stupid or you're just lying. Probably both. But when they come out and they just say, hey, billion dollars for Ecuador and the Amazon to fight climate change, while they're holding victims hostage in North Carolina for disaster relief, I mean, how do the American people tolerate this stuff? I mean, they can't even, like, oh, we don't know whose drones they are and we don't have money for hurricane victims.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I'm sick of this, man. I'm just, I'm so sick of the abuse we take. Completely agree. It's a dysfunctional government right now under the Biden administration. You know, you look, just on top of the things that you just mentioned, you know, you look at all the policy effects when it comes to a foreign policy perspective. and the disastrous Middle East, you know, the vacuum, the power vacuum that has occurred in Syria. I mean, we can make a huge list as far as all the debauchery that has occurred over the last four years. And I'll just list one because I'm a veteran and the debacle that occurred in Afghanistan and pulling out of Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:08:48 So it's like a bad nightmare that's occurring in Syria and it's just going to happen again. We're lucky, you know, to have this change in. administration with with trump just because of all the failures of the Biden administration well and you've got quite a resume here you know an engineer you've gone through the engineering science and development program with the U.S. Navy you've trained with the Department of Defense weapons systems you're very well informed on AI and of course as well as drones and I don't want to get off into some of these old stories but you know you do bring that up Obama basically gave American drone technology to Iran.
Starting point is 01:09:31 They wanted to act like that was a mistake. I don't believe it for one second. Bill Clinton sold nuclear secrets to the Chinese. And so we have this pattern of behavior of, hey, we're going to give U.S. intellectual property or even military technology to our foreign adversaries. But we're going to just count on the media not to report about it. And then they have these drones flying around, which we know that the government knows what. going on. They just won't tell us. But it's just like when, at what
Starting point is 01:10:01 point did the American people say, hey, wait a second, if this is an Iranian drone, which I don't believe for one second, you can comment on that too. Well, who gave them that technology? That was Barack Obama. He gave him that technology. If there's an Iranian mothership off the coast flying drones, well, Obama
Starting point is 01:10:17 gave him that technology. Right. And that's a good point too, because you even look at how Xi Jinping came over to San Francisco. and Biden was right there inviting all these, you know, the open, Sam Altman and all these open AI, you know, techies to Frisco to meet Xi Jinping.
Starting point is 01:10:39 And likely there has been some transition or giving away of our technologies as far as AI goes to him. So, yeah, absolutely. And of course, that's the next big technological boom is AI. You'd think Biden would want to keep America at the front of that, at the top of that. But I guess not. I guess it's, hey, whatever we're, I mean, they did the same thing with drones, too. Whatever technology we might have the edge in, let's just sacrifice that edge, because we like to sell out this country and become rich, like the Biden crime family and the Clintons and so much
Starting point is 01:11:16 more. Now, the drone story on the East Coast has kind of disappeared. I mean, not literally. I don't know if there's still drones flying, but nobody's really talking about. it. What is your synapsis of that with your experience in that field and just what you're saying and what you're hearing? Yeah. So, you know, it's hard not to put your pulse on a, on a sciop in this, in this circumstance, just because of the way the narrative developed early. You know, they said they didn't know, and then it might be UAPs and they didn't know what adversary it was. And from, you know, a person that has spent so many years, in the DoD developing what we call counter UAS or other payloads or sensors that we put on group one, group two, which is the smaller drones.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I just knew that that was not accurate. The DOD knows what's in our skies. We know what we call spectrum effects, which is how to sense drones in our skies, how to detect them. And so when it comes to the narrative, for sure, you know, to me, there's a lot. level of speculation that comes just because of what we know, what kind of technology we have. Now, as far as Congress goes, though, and the CR that they're trying to pass in the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, they actually have a segment in there allocating, I think, roughly about $335 million to develop domestic or CONIS, continental U.S. technologies on bases.
Starting point is 01:12:55 there's an effort to do some collaboration with ARO, the ARO office within the DOD, and then also money towards doing collaborations with local police and law enforcement. So to me, from my perspective, I think this is a long time coming. When you look at threats and you look at from the perspective of the DOD, we look at threats, we do what's called risk mitigation, and we also do vulnerability assessment. assessments when it comes to our assets or our bases. And from those perspectives, this is an much needed effort in order to deter what, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:37 the civilian side or the domestic side of these threats. So certainly the conversation has changed since the, you know, they've come out and kind of botched the narrative from the beginning. but I'm glad to see that there's more, you know, legwork on the, as far as implementing deterrentices within CONIS, not in OUS. Robert Newcomb is my guest. Defendut.com is the website. Let me talk technicals with you because you kind of bring this up. First of all, you know, there already is some rather basic laws and regulations on drones when you
Starting point is 01:14:22 want to go buy a drone and just a consumer level drone and fly it in the sky. There's some pretty basic regulations there. How much oversight or ability or knowledge in just a minute to minute basis, let's say, let's say 10 people go out in New Jersey with their just consumer drones. They can go by to Best Buy. Let's say 10 people go out. They put them in the air. They're filming or trying to do some stunts or whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I mean, does the FAA pretty much have that all under wraps? Like, okay, these are the drones that's up. They're up. Bing, they've pinged, and then that's it? I mean, how much knowledge is there available just on an immediate basis? Yeah, there isn't, and that's for good reason in some respects. But the FAA follows and is supposed to be governing our domestic airspace. These drones, however, are supposed to be registered.
Starting point is 01:15:15 And so when it comes to like a domestic, whether it's airports, from a domestic person, perspective, a lot of these drones are not picked up from the radar systems we have at our airports. And that, you know, we could get on the technical side of that. I don't think you want to, but it's basically they used what's called phased array a lot of times in the military to detect smaller and even decipher between like a drone and a bird. So the radar systems at airports are kind of aged and they'll pick up big passenger jets or even small like Cessna's and stuff. They don't track, in domestic airspace, they don't track, unless it has a transponder. They don't track these smaller drones.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And so that's part of the concern, you know, with especially when you look at the border, the open border that Biden has had. And all the terrorists, the known terrorists that have gotten caught and the gotaways, you know, terrorists have had a knack for using drones to attack military bases. We see it in Ukraine. we see it in the Middle East. So, you know, the threat is there. And to dismiss it or, you know, to ignore that all the threats and the terrorists that come over at the border is, to me, it's close to incompetence or, you know, being in net. Well, I would say you could even argue, in fact, no, I would argue that it's criminal.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Mayorkas is a criminal, in my opinion. Maybe one of the biggest traders in the history of this country. and that's why it's so offensive when they come out and they say, well, we don't know whose drones they are, but we know it's not a threat. Well, okay, obviously you're lying because that's just completely illogical. But, okay, a smaller consumer drone you fly it in the air, maybe it doesn't register with the FAA or ping on any radar, unless it's overprotected airspace.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Now, what about the drones that we have been seeing on the East Coast that are military style? I mean, it appears to be drones that the Navy has purchased or has used in the past. these drones that can change shape and move pretty fast, pretty agile in the air, have worked with the Navy. They're stationed off of the East Coast. Do drones like that ping, or is it kind of the same situation? Unless it goes off in a protected airspace, they can pretty much fly around and not be on radar. Well, they could. They could ping.
Starting point is 01:17:39 There's kind of a caveat there. You know, when drones fly in the air, typically they give off signatures within the RF spectrum. Those signatures include, you know, radio frequencies, and they'll communicate with a ground controller. Now, for military and other advanced drones, we're getting into an area of autonomy and AI where they're not going to send, they're not going to give off a signature. So they're not going to be as detectable. And you couple that with materials, how radar detects drones in the air.
Starting point is 01:18:15 you know, there's certain materials that can, you know, stealth materials that can deflect or absorb these radio, radar frequencies. So from a military perspective and from an advanced drone perspective, they're not necessarily going to be detectable from conventional radars that we, that we deploy within the continental U.S. So.
Starting point is 01:18:40 So if it was a spy drone, they wouldn't have their lights on. and it wouldn't be detectable on radar because they'd obviously not want to be detected. Right. And so that's part of the narrative. And to me, when I initially saw this, and I'm not, I don't deal with this kind of technology currently. I'm still a weapons engineer and I still work for a contractor. But when I did, I helped stand up, you know, the counter UAS pass force. I was ahead of an organization that did a lot of red teaming within the,
Starting point is 01:19:15 the DOD years ago. So from this perspective, though, when it comes to detecting these things, and whether it's a military or not, my first impression was always that it was a test. Now, there's some narratives that came up, you know, as far as nuclear material detection. I was skeptic about that just because of the payload. We use what's called a size weight and power analysis when it comes to these small drones. And to put a detector on there, to detect nuclear material, it can be done, but at distances that these drones were not flying. So you're talking like 100 meters or closer for specific sensors that detect nuclear
Starting point is 01:20:03 material. But to me, from the beginning, I always thought it was some kind of contractor test or a DOD test, But most certainly these are not UAPs. These are likely U.S. drones from a three-letter agency or, you know, a contractor doing certain tests. And they can fly, you know, legally through the FAA, they can fly within those air spaces. So that's part of what I think Congress is trying to push is to change. And to me, it has to be driven from the FAA, change the rules, ensure everything's registered, or maybe update some radars, domestic radars, and most certainly update DOD radars on domestic bases to include detection of these smaller drones.
Starting point is 01:20:52 I mean, you know, there was even, I live near Hill Air Force Base, and we did a four-year request, this reporter here locally, his name is Brian McElhattan, but he did a four-year request, and he discovered that there was, there's been drones in the last four years that have made encouraging. incursions onto Hill Air Force Base and hovered over a fuel tank, you know, an aviation fuel tank and then disappeared. So most absolutely these things, to me in my mind, you know, there should be funding allocated in the NDAA to cover these kinds of emerging threats. Well, and you know, quickly on that, there have obviously been a lot of stories. They don't get as much attention. These drones are flying in mass in a very very, highly population dense area where people can just go out on their back porch at night for a cocktail and they just see these drones in the sky.
Starting point is 01:21:49 So it kind of made a lot of news. They've had problems at military installations and bases for some time now. But obviously when you're on a military base, you're not going out and blowing that up on your social media or to the news. So those things kind of don't really make big news stories like what we saw in New Jersey. Now here's the latest in this development. I want to get your response here. FAA bans drones over parts of New Jersey threatens deadly force for imminent security threat.
Starting point is 01:22:18 They are banning, the FAA is banning drones violating New Jersey bans until January 17th over special security reasons. What do you make of this latest development? Yeah, it's likely the lack of ability to detect, track, or know, who's actually operating these drones. You know, and this is part of my skepticism with the DoD because, you know, we have, we have technologies to track these drones.
Starting point is 01:22:55 It's certainly that domestic side does not, but just from a spectrum perspective, you know, F-18, you know, F-35 pilots, when they, on their queuing mechanism, on their HUD, heads-up display, they have a bounding box that they use, right, to track their targets. And so there's technologies. I don't want to get into too much of this side of it,
Starting point is 01:23:22 but there's technologies that we have related to computer vision or there's technologies we can do acoustic tracking. If you have triangulation, you have sensors that attract acoustically, you can track something that emits noise. So, you know, and I'm not familiar with what. what the DOD is using exactly, but I can tell you that these technologies are already, they've been around for a long time,
Starting point is 01:23:48 it can be done. And for the DOD to come out, which is surprising, just from a leadership perspective, you don't come out and say, I don't know, and who knows it could be UAPs. For me, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:01 from a leadership perspective, you say what you do know, and then you say, you know, some of it's classified and I can't speak to it, right? So I think it's not only a leadership problem, you know, with this administration, but it's also just an overall transparency. I mean, we have to, this is why I'm glad Trump's getting into office because we got to be more
Starting point is 01:24:20 truthful. We've got to be more transparent. And if we can't talk about something, it's fine, you know, just say you can't talk about it. Not don't spin the narrative, you know, so people, there's almost a bubble of hysteria, right, from, from the nation. So, and then you get people that come out and they look at their sky at night and then mistake a neutron star or a pulse for a UAP, you know, or other orbs or even a sprite, you know, I've studied at length, you know, the UAP issue outside of the DoD. I've even worked here locally with Skinwalker Ranch. And, you know, the anomalies we see in the sky, I would say 90% of them are explainable. And if they're not explainable by natural phenomena, there's certainly technologies that we have that we use from a space base or even terrestrial technologies that have.
Starting point is 01:25:11 have certain effects within the upper atmosphere or the stratosphere. Whether it's the radio waves or lasers coming through the atmosphere for weather, you know, they have certain effects, visual effects that occur through the atmosphere. So, and that's not even mentioning, right, we're in a solar maximum cycle, so our coronal mass ejections or solar flares were at a height in 2025. So we see more Aurora Borialis, you know, effects through the, through the atmosphere. So, yeah, you know, getting back to how the DOD handled this or how, frankly, the Biden administration handled this. I think it was irresponsible at the very least, if not inept.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Well, it feels like this game they're playing, right? And I mean, I don't know why I can't think of any reason why policy would change now after this has been going on for three weeks. That now they're saying, okay, we're going to ban the drones from going up in the sky when even two weeks ago people were trying to fly drones in the sky and it looked like something was shutting them down. No answer was given to that. So it's like now they have this policy after they say everything is fine. So nothing really adds up. But it feels like a game. Like they know exactly what's going on and they just kind of want to tease us.
Starting point is 01:26:34 You know, they just want to hold us in suspense and be like, well, we know, but you know, the American people don't need to know. Just know that it's fine. Just know that we're, you know, we're in control. So it's just very offensive, I think, for them to come out and pretend like they don't know when obviously they know. And then it's like, it's like, oh, no, no, no, let's keep them in suspense. Let's now officially have a policy that bans drones. Yeah, that'll do it.
Starting point is 01:26:58 That'll really keep them in suspense. It's just insulting and it's rude and inconsiderate to the American people how they're treating them. Agreed. Yeah, I mean, I've also delved into, you know, all the policy generated from the United Nations, you know, from the G20 or G7 summits and the column SDGs and how the Biden administration just globed onto it and called it ESGs. They just changed the acronym right from SDGs to ESGs here locally, environmental, social and governance. And so to me, we see this horrendous top-down mandate coercion effect on the American people that I think is, frankly, it's dangerous. Just for the fact that Americans love their freedom, you know, as a veteran, I took an oath to defend and support the Constitution of the United States. that, you know, for veterans out there, that does not end when we die. That is a lifetime commitment. So when we're discharged from the military, that commitment is still there.
Starting point is 01:28:06 And so for the Biden administration to come out and, you know, use all these terms like Ms. Malin disinformation and then mandate it and collude with tech industry to facilitate their agenda, it's disgusting, frankly, to me. and dishonorable to the service of all those veterans who sacrificed so much for our freedoms, for the Constitution. And, yeah, frankly, it's, it gets me spun up, so I'm going to, I'll dial it back. Your right to get spun up, because it is, it's bad. It's bad what they do.
Starting point is 01:28:45 They treat our veterans, our military like cannon fodder. All right, I want to hold you over through this break. You said something in the last segment I can't ignore. and that Skin Walker Ranch. Now, I mean, we're going way off base today. The all-time fan favorite bestseller, vitamin mineral fusion is finally back in stock exclusively available at DR Jones Naturals.com.
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Starting point is 01:33:30 All right, we still have our guest on who said something. If you know about this story, you hear it, and you just, your ears kind of perk up. So I want to go back to that in a second. I do want to give you an update on what's happening right now on Capitol Hill. The Republicans in control of the House are debating two things. And that is the bill that was proposed last night without the debt ceiling increase. And so they're shopping that around to see if they can get the votes from the Republicans to pass that bill.
Starting point is 01:34:05 That was one of the big hiccups. but I don't I don't think that will work. I think these Republicans are now just holdouts and maybe want the government shut down. The second option that they're weighing is three single issue bills, a CR, the farm bill, and disaster relief. Those would have to have a rules vote and then be voted on tomorrow. So in that instance, they have to see if they'll even have enough Republicans present to vote, yes, to get those three bills passed. So that's what's going on right now. First, they're going to see if they can get the votes on the same bill that failed last night without the debt limit increase.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Or they're going to try to get three single issue bills, or excuse me, three single issue bills that would not be. voted on until tomorrow. So that's what's going on right now. They were supposed to have a vote this morning. It didn't happen. That tells you Mike Johnson has completely just, he has nothing. So he was saying, oh, we're going to vote in the morning and we got a bill that's going to pass and no, you didn't.
Starting point is 01:35:19 A total failure again. So that's where we're at, quite frankly, the three single issue bills is a decent option. You could argue about the continued resolution, whether you want to fund the government or not. but you would get the farm bill, you would get the disaster relief bill, and vote on that. But again, your issue is these members of Congress want to go home. They don't want to sit around D.C. for even another day to vote on this bill. So that's where you're at.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And it's all just disgusting, really. Our government is just completely disgusting and despicable. So I say, shut it down. All right. others are saying they've already reached an agreement on the debt limit, but again, I'm not sure they have the vote yet. So we'll be continuing to monitor that. Robert Newcomb is my guest.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Now, okay, anybody who knows about Skin Walker Ranch, if you don't, this is one of the wildest stories, conspiracy theories, phenomenon ever that you can look into. And it's mostly kind of the UFO alien extraterrestrial community that is really interested in that and kind of experts on that. And there have been documentaries come out, really just crazy stuff. I had no idea. Robert had anything to do with that. So I just got to ask him, what was your role?
Starting point is 01:36:44 What do you know about Skin Walker Ranch? What was your role in, I guess, investigating it, looking into it? What do you know about it? Yeah. So, excuse me, so I've spent several years just out of interest, aside from my normal duties, you know, on my job, researching UAPs, researching the technology that could justify what we see in our skies. When it comes to Skinwalker Ranch, it was more of a friend of a friend connection. But, you know, Brandon Fugel, Eric Bard, they were cordial and gracious enough to, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:23 allow me to consult or have conversations with Eric Bard, who is the lead scientist there. But most of my experience over the last four years investigating UAPs, when it comes to Skinwalker Ranch, Skinwalker Ranch by itself is an anomaly to me. It's hard to explain the evidence that comes out of there. I've often explained it as an environmental anomaly, whether it's coming from outside of the or off the earth, you know, from a cosmic perspective, or it's being generated from the earth kind of anomaly. And I just, you know, when I've researched all the UIP evidence
Starting point is 01:38:08 and everything that happened, you know, from Tick-Tac to Gimble, Skinwalker Ranch always sticks out to me. And so my involvement there with Eric Bard was a series of consultations or conversations about what technology to deploy in order to drive out these anomalies, especially when it comes to AI or computer vision or camera systems or other networked or grid-type sensors to track the location of an anomaly, track via AI, track the visual identification of an anomaly. So I don't work there. It's a consultation effort in the past I have.
Starting point is 01:38:56 So it's very limited, but for sure 100%. Like I said previously, you know, Skinwalker Ranch, it stands out to me above any other kind of research that I've done on the matter. Well, and people that haven't heard of it are out there in suspense. What is this? What are you talking about? Well, there's kind of like this, let's say, cultural mystery about it and, you know, maybe extraterrestrial beings and just some of the, kind of cultural history there. And it kind of ties into like certain areas,
Starting point is 01:39:26 like you talk about Area 51 where you're just out in the vast desert and there's just like this local color of, yeah, we see aliens all the time or, you know, spaceships or there's weird things that go on in the desert or even cave drawings, whatever. So there's that aspect of it. But then, and this is the one that really grabs my attention, because you can go watch all kinds of different alien documentaries. And sometimes for fun, I'll go down those.
Starting point is 01:39:51 rabbit holes, more just for fun, and people that just like to study extraterrestrials or UFOs and different anomalies. But like you said, the one that makes Skin Walker Rant show different is there's so much actual on-the-ground evidence and dealing with livestock and stuff that happens that is just completely unexplainable, yet easily documented. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, there's dozens of examples, like I said, evidence that that comes to mind.
Starting point is 01:40:24 You know, I think what they're doing at Skinwalker Ranch and the effort or money that Brandon Fugel is putting forward to discover this or to drive out, you know, this anomalous behavior will eventually lead to new discoveries, you know, in science. As are the technology advances, AI comes on board. a lot of these sensors get more, you know, they can drive out more detail in the data. And especially as LQMs, large quantitative models come out, which are really a physics or a science-based model, AI model. And they do what's called a recursive research, which these LQM's large quantitative models can do,
Starting point is 01:41:16 is they can do their own research and drive out solutions that previously have been burdened by the science community. So, yeah, as far as AI is concerned, and this is another reason why I love that Trump came into office that Elon Musk is involved is because he wants to drive out truth, but all this AI stuff, if left under Biden, it would have been a crash and burn for our society. under Trump, however, I actually have, I'm optimistic. I'm hopeful that, you know, this AI effort will come out to good fruition. So what U.S. government involvement is there at Skinwalker Ranch?
Starting point is 01:42:03 Because there's all these other historical sites where if citizens, you know, want to just got even just show up and start filming or some sites where people might show up with a shovel. I mean, there'll be people that show up out of the woods immediately and you're like, whoa, what the hell? How much government involved involvement is there at Skinwalker Ranch? Do they have tight ropes on that or is it like kind of a free-for-all? I'm not familiar with any three-letter agencies that are involved in Skinwalker Ranch currently. I know historically they have been, I forgot the individual.
Starting point is 01:42:40 name, but he owned it previously to Fugel. But I'm sure there's no doubt in my mind, however, that some three-letter agencies still has a pulse on what's being discovered there. I'm sure
Starting point is 01:42:56 in back channels, which I'm not familiar with, you know, there could be some dialogue there between those three-letter agencies and Skinwalker Ranch. That I do not know, though. Well, they love to be around not just, human interest stories, but when there's actual
Starting point is 01:43:12 genuine historical stuff going on or genuine aerial phenomenon stuff going on, whether that's just they don't want you to know what's really going on or they're interested for themselves, they always seem to find their way, right? They always seem to find their way on there, if not permanently entrenched there to
Starting point is 01:43:28 protect people from trying to find the truth. So that's an amazing story that you're involved there. Truly, folks, just if you want one of the more curious UFO, alien, extraterrestrial anomaly phenomenon stories. Skinwalker Ranch is certainly one you can dig into and just say, what in the hell is that?
Starting point is 01:43:49 And there's so much actual on the ground evidence. It's not just people with blurry photos or stories without any evidence. It's like you're there on the ground and they got a lot of things that they've seen and can show you. All right, Robert Newcomb. I really appreciate your time today. Defendut.com is his website. Thank you for joining us. All right, brother. Good to meet you.
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Starting point is 01:46:07 which is happening right now. Okay. We got some illegal immigrant news here. That never seems to stop. But right now, again, folks, everything is happening behind closed doors with the continued resolution versus government shutdown.
Starting point is 01:46:31 And basically the Republicans are weighing two options, and that's either to bring last night's bill back to the floor without the debt limit increase, or to bring three separate bills, which would be one, a continued resolution, two, disaster relief aid, and three, the farm bill. But those would not be available to be voted on until tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:47:01 So the risk there, even though those might be the most likely to get the votes, the risk there would be people are already saying, threatening that they're not going to be there tomorrow no matter what. So bring the bill to the floor tonight or we're leaving tomorrow. We're not going to vote on a single issue bill, which is really too bad. I'd say that's too bad that members of Congress would feel that way. But at the same time, they should have done the single issue bill today. It's what they should have done.
Starting point is 01:47:34 And you could avoid this whole thing. And it's not clear to me. and I'm trying to find out what the continued resolution bill is, but my guess would be it's the Freedom Caucus continued resolution bill that Clay Higgins was sponsoring that was a clean continued resolution 22 pages long that you could actually read and then go vote on. So not some bill that they want to plop down on your desk and say go vote on it,
Starting point is 01:48:04 but a bill you can actually get and read and go vote on it. Now, of course, all of this is in violation of the 72-hour rule, but they don't really seem to care much about that, do they? They don't seem to care much about that. Now, last night, you had some clown shows going on, including this Democrat Rosa DeLauro, which is just a man who goes around in a wig, a purple wig, and a dress. I mean, just look at this crap. Go ahead and play clip one. On a bill. They signed it.
Starting point is 01:48:40 And you know what? They got scared because President Musk I don't know, who knows these days? Told them President Musk said. It's a dude, it's a man, it's a woman,
Starting point is 01:48:54 it's a Democrat. Don't do it. Shut the government down. Imagine. What does he know about what people go through? It's when the government shuts down. Are his employees furloughed?
Starting point is 01:49:08 Are his employees furloughed? Hell no. Is he furloughed? No. And when you shut the government down, people don't get paid. And maybe if none of us got paid if the government shut down, some people on the other side of the aisle would feel differently about where we're going. Say government shut down again, baby.
Starting point is 01:49:28 We had an agreement. But you know, this is that. No, no, no, no, no, no. The Democrats had a bill they want. From what we've experienced over the last year and a half or so. Think about it. McCarthy, deal, come together. Next day, walk away. Johnson Schumer, deal. Next day, walk away. And now this deal, walk away from it. Good. Who do we trust in this body? And above all, can the
Starting point is 01:49:59 American people trust us? No. Trust us with their lives. No. When we had a moment, when we came to agreement as Democrats and Republicans, and then we were able to say, let's move forward this country. You know, one of my colleagues, I think it was Congressman Neil who said this. What do you guys think? A man or a woman? What do we think, guys? They think it's a woman. I'm not so sure.
Starting point is 01:50:31 This could have been an early transition. She could have been an early transition situation there. That is a skeck. man. I mean, that is about you put her and Pelosi next to one another and you think you're in the Jim Henson movie, Dark Crystal. You also had Democrats
Starting point is 01:50:59 getting scolded when Anna Paulina Luna was trying to speak. You can't even really pick it up over the microphone, but they were really out of control last night. and I've never seen a house gavel get banged harder because they were completely out of control. Clip two. Voted for a CR, but I'm here today because I realize that the plan that's on the table currently to keep our government open,
Starting point is 01:51:27 but also the promise from the only president in my lifetime who's ever followed through and all of his campaign promises to the American people, excuse me, I'm not done talking. Give me the same respect we give you guys. The House will come to order. My colleagues are reminded the gentlewoman has the floor. She has the right to be heard. The gentlewoman has the right to be heard, and the gentlewoman would be reminded to direct her comments to the chair.
Starting point is 01:51:57 The gentlewoman from Florida is recognized. From the only president in my lifetime who's fulfilled all of his campaign promises to the American people has promised to cut hundreds of billion dollars. in reconciliation, you want to talk about shutting down the government. The deal that was negotiated was largely rejected by the American people, which two speakers, Johnson's credit, pulled it from the floor, which is why we are here today. The deal on the table will keep the government open for the American people,
Starting point is 01:52:24 and if you guys so choose to shut it down, it will be on you, but not the Republican Party. We will not be going back to the table. This deal stands as it is, so let you go back home on Christmas and explain to your people why you shut down the government, because we won't be doing it. The house. Furthermore, Mr. Speaker. That's a strong gavel.
Starting point is 01:52:53 The house will be in order. I mean, he slammed that thing. The gentlewoman is reminded to direct her comments to the chair. All right. My colleagues are reminded. I just don't understand why it's this weird little political thing where they want to blame the other side for the government shut down. Just, just own it. Own it and judo it.
Starting point is 01:53:16 look at the government look at the government's approval ratings look at Joe Biden's approval ratings look at all the different bureaucracies look at their approval ratings look at the corporate media's approval ratings there's no populism there the government is not popular the mainstream media pointing their finger at you saying you shut down the
Starting point is 01:53:43 government it's not popular Congress is not popular So I just don't get this. You're going to blame for the government shutdown. You're going to blame for the government shutdown. It's like, hey, can you get the emergency relief that you've screwed the American people over for years? No, you're the government trial. You're the government channel. They're about to be wrapping a conference meeting on the Hill right now.
Starting point is 01:54:08 I'll have an update on that. There might be a change in the situation. I'll let you know. Here's Democrat Congressman Richard Neal. They're all mad about the influence of we, the people. They just blame X, but it's we the people in clip three. And a tweet changed all of it? Can you imagine what the next two years are going to be like if every time the Congress works its will and then there's a tweet?
Starting point is 01:54:38 Or from an individual who has no official portfolio who threatens members on the Republican side with a primary? And they succumb? This institution has a separate responsibility based upon. the separation of powers. Members of Congress don't serve under presidents of the United States. You know, I want to explain something here. I want to
Starting point is 01:55:03 pull up a post from Democrat Jasmine Crockett. She says, where is it here? Let me try to find this. Well, the point is, yeah, she says, which branch of government does Elon Musk belong to? Let's
Starting point is 01:55:39 let's just put this all in perspective as we close out the second hour of the Alex Jones show. Which branch of government does Elon Musk belong to? Well, actually, Jasmine, part of government that Elon Musk belongs to is actually the most important part of government. And it seems as though you and your colleagues have forgotten the most important part of the government. And that part is we the people. We, the people. We, the people. You see, Congress is not supposed to execute its will over us. Our government is not supposed to dictate our future to us. It's actually the opposite.
Starting point is 01:56:29 And you just got a little taste of that. And you don't like it. He says, well, can you imagine two years of the people deciding their fate? Can you imagine the next two years of Americans getting to, voice their opinion and have an influence over this Congress. Can you believe it? Yeah, we the people are back. We are taking our government back. We're taking our future back, our destiny back, our country back. You don't seem to like it that much. But we're not going anywhere. And this is a huge threshold that has been crossed, ladies and gentlemen. And I explained
Starting point is 01:57:11 it yesterday when I opened the war room. I'm almost out of time here, but I'll explain it when I come back. Yesterday's failure to pass the bill and the response from Congress since is a major threshold cross.
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Starting point is 02:00:23 The sad reality, your government has been corrupt your entire life, extremely corrupt. Most of your politicians and members of Congress have been corrupt as well. And the American people have finally woken up to it. And we're trying to get some representation. We're trying to get some leadership that isn't corrupt, that actually wants to help the country, that actually wants to act on their own. And you're starting to see the results of that
Starting point is 02:00:59 with the rise of Donald Trump, the emergence of Elon Musk politically, and some other members of Congress here and there. But why are these politicians, and specifically in the recent developments on the Democrat side of the aisle, so upset that you finally have a say again? So upset that your voice is finally being heard again?
Starting point is 02:01:21 Well, because normally they're able to operate in the shack, normally they're able to show up, vote on these criminal bills, and go home without barely hearing a peep about it. But that's not the case anymore. So that upsets them. But here's the real threshold that is represented by this development here. For really the last, well, forever, you could argue. But certainly in modern American history, political communication. between politicians and their constituents, political leaders, and the American people
Starting point is 02:02:07 has been a one-way street. Meaning, they make statements on the floor, and you hear them. They go do interviews on TV or radio, and you listen, and that's it. It's a one-way street. They talk, you listen. And the only way they might ever hear you is if you call their office, send them a message, or maybe go vote. But in the day-to-day, it's a one-way street, they talk, you listen.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Well, now because of X, and by the way, that determines how they behave. And so they know they can get away with everything, so they really don't have to care about what the American people think. They don't have to care about what their constituents think. But now thanks to social media and specifically X, it's now a two-way street. Now they communicate and they get immediate feedback. Now they can communicate and see what's popular, what's not popular. Now they can communicate and see what other people are thinking, what other people are feeling,
Starting point is 02:03:10 or even things that they didn't know or think themselves. Now it's a two-way street. So now you have to live in this infinite feedback loop of action-reaction instead of, oh, I'm just talking and you're listening, and then that's the end of the story. So this is changing the face of American politics. this is forcing politicians to finally react to or bend to the will of the American people, and you can tell some people are really upset about that. Mostly Democrats.
Starting point is 02:03:43 So this is a major threshold crossing moment. This is a major game-changing moment in American politics and really the course of political history on a global scale. But getting to operate in the darkness, getting one-way communication paths is over. It's over. People are paying attention now. People are engaged.
Starting point is 02:04:09 They're activated. They understand things now. And we have the immediate feedback. You can go look. There's a couple examples. Go look at Dan Crenshaw's recent social media post. This guy is one of the least popular men in Congress on the Republican side. He's had a complete mental break going to.
Starting point is 02:04:29 on diatribes, curse-laden diatribes against American people, against Texans. And then there's Thomas Massey, maybe one of the only conservatives left in our government, very popular, nothing but positive feedback. So now everyone else can kind of look at that and say, hmm, which way do I go? Do I go the way of Dan Crenshaw, who nobody likes, or do I go the way of Thomas Massey, who's very popular? So this is the impact of We the People and now social media.
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Starting point is 02:05:50 and check out all the other great products while you're there. Thank you so much for keeping us in the fight. Now get your vitamin mineral fusion right now. at diartrosnacles.com crashing through the lies and disinformation it's alex jones coming to you live from the front lines of the info war welcome back to this live a friday edition of the alex jones show i'm your host alex jones i want to play a very informative very powerful clip from timpool last night on his timcast talking to a well-known leftist who just thinks that Trump supporters from J6 that got set up by the feds and the whole Fed's erection deserved to be thrown away into president
Starting point is 02:06:41 and not even charged or ever tried. I mean, this is the essence of tyranny. And they're trying to set the precedent for this to then expand that against other populist and Trump supporters going forward. And the Democrats have said, if Trump would have lost this election, if they could have stolen it,
Starting point is 02:06:56 they were going to weaponize it against basically all Trump supporters. And then we really are in 1984. society. So these people weren't given due process. Many of them haven't been charged, and they're being held in cruel and unusual circumstances, and they all need to be released. Trump's saying, well, I'm going to release everybody that looks like her innocent. He has to release everybody because they got set up with the feds provocateuring and triggering the police to attack the general crowd. And so it's better that 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man go to prison. They haven't been given due process. It's all political. They all need to
Starting point is 02:07:31 be released now. There are people three years in prison for just going inside the Capitol and they never even had a trial. So here's Tim Poole laying it all out. We need to see the J6 criminals like Liz Cheney and the rest of them that have been caught tampering with evidence charged. Kinsinger Schiff. They're already under investigation. The Trump administration incoming is going after him and that is good. That is the right thing to do. And we will destroy this fraudulent narrative of J6 and actually punish the feds that were in the crowd and did launch the attack. here's Tim Poole's excellent analysis. You have.
Starting point is 02:08:05 No, I haven't. No, no, no, stop. You don't know anything about these January 6 cases. You don't know why these people are in jail. You don't know that a man is in Brooklyn right now for three years without charge or trial. And when Donald Trump says, these people have been held for too long, you say, no Trump is wrong. Keep them locked up. That's fucking fascist.
Starting point is 02:08:23 Dude, you have sit here, you've been sitting here with no knowledge of the specifics of some of these cases. There is a man in Brooklyn right now. I'm going to say it again, no charges whatsoever brought. He's been in jail for three fucking years. For you to sit there and say, it is good that he remains locked up is fascism. That is saying the hierarchy, the hierarchical system of the courts and the government is just, and the process is all that matters. And I am saying perhaps three years is enough because I actually have moral logic and an understanding of these cases. Hence, my position on January 6th has always been the people have attacked police must go to prison.
Starting point is 02:08:57 But three years is a fucking long time for assault and an officer. We have seen people on the far left, notably when they were firebombing shit all across Minnesota, 33 people murdered. And how many criminal charges do we get for this? When they firebombed a police station and forced the police to evacuate on May 29th, 2020, when thousands of far leftists fire bombed the White House grounds and set fire to St. John's Church and injured 100 police officers, how many fucking people went to prison for three years? How many of them who never showed up on that day are in prison for 20 years? Enrique Atario wasn't even in D.C. on January 6th.
Starting point is 02:09:34 And you are saying that man who only, his only crime was, quote, don't leave. That's his only crime. You think he should be in prison for 20 years because you're a fascist. You don't care what the facts are. You don't care if this is unjust. You only care that the machine state has decreed you are not to be locked up. And this is the problem I have with the left. They don't know the facts.
Starting point is 02:09:53 They don't care about the facts. They view morality as a blanket government stroke of the pen, and every person, regardless of their crime, should be in prison for decades. I reject it outright. The people who fought cops should go to prison. They did. It's been three years. But when you've got people who are on misdemeanor charges for having walked into a building at 4 p.m. after the riot, and I know some of these people. They walked into a building for two minutes and walked out, and they got 18 months for that.
Starting point is 02:10:19 I don't see you defending the innocent people who walked onto a public grass at a public building. after a right have been completed. You don't know, you don't care. You've taken a tribal position, and people are suffering because of it. Now you say that Donald Trump's saying the injustice that we've seen, warrants, commutation, or pardons, you say that means it's advocating for violence. This is the ultimate problem. Then you cite a press release from Maryland saying, but the right's more violent.
Starting point is 02:10:43 There is a distinction between a white supremacist as a right-wing group and a run-of-the-mill Christian conservative, who showed upon that day not to protest. Let's talk about Brandon Strach. He never went in the building. He was on the other side of the building. There was a permanent protest. He walked up the stairs and he was yelling. They put this guy in prison.
Starting point is 02:11:01 There is Owen Schroier who was at a permanent rally who was yelling death to communists. They put him in prison and specifically cited his speech. My dude, you don't know what you're talking about. And it's fine. I get it. We try to be polite. We try to be nice. But there are so many young liberals who sit here and say, the corporate press told me that these people are bad.
Starting point is 02:11:20 And the machine state government has decreed it by Penn. So I don't care what crime they committed. I don't care what the jury said. I don't care who was on the jury. Enrique Atario, who was not there, should be in prison for two decades. Tell me this now. Why is Enrique Tario in prison? Yeah, so they uncovered with him his plot to overthrow the government.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Enrique Tari's? Yeah, and his organization. What plot? Who's they? Give me some... Prosecutors. Give me some data. Stop squinting at me and saying, the prosecutors did a thing.
Starting point is 02:11:49 You didn't know, you didn't read it, you didn't read the court papers. All you know is the fascist machine state told you he should be in prison and you're saying yes to them. I also think it's interesting that this report comes out the day after Chris Ray resigns. It seems to me that he may not have wanted to contend with the questions that, of course, are going to emerge from everything that we're learning today. And the other point I'd like to make is something that David Spunge is raised where he said that Matthew Graves, who's the U.S. attorney here in Washington, D.C., did not prosecute any of those confidential human forces. sources, spies that did enter the Capitol that day. And his office, Graves's office, did put out a statement and said that they did not generally prosecute anyone who just went into the Capitol and didn't commit other crimes. My question there is, what does generally mean? How did they make
Starting point is 02:12:38 those decisions? And why weren't those particular paid spies part of that group? The 23 confidential human sources, just reading through this, Carrie, three of them entered the Capitol during the riot, an additional 11 entered the restrictions. area around the Capitol, to your point. Based on what we have learned so far in the details of this report, how would you characterize the findings? The feds have been caught. They ran J6, just like I told you four years ago. I was there. I witnessed it. So now everyone who is set up in this false flag operation must be freed. They are victims of a totalitarian deep state system that is in free fall collapse. Did any FBI agents or confidential informants, or confidential informants,
Starting point is 02:13:23 actively participate in the events of January 6th, yes or not? Yes or no? I can't answer that. For me, it was surreal to watch the hearings, and they're acting like, I wanted to attack the Capitol. Then they omit the footage of us trying to stop people going in the Capitol. They really don't want us to talk about Rehaps.
Starting point is 02:13:40 Who is Ray Epps? I'm aware of the individual, sir. I don't have the specific background to him. We need to go into the Capitol. Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed. Ms. Sandburn was Ray Epps the Fed? Sir, I cannot answer that question. I'm the one who asked Merrick Garland.
Starting point is 02:13:59 I showed him the tape of Ray Epps. I had to show it on an iPad for Merrick Garland to watch it, and then he refused to say how many feds were there. I'm not going to comment on an investigation that's ongoing. Feds, agents of the federal government, were not just there, but we're also encouraging people to riot or go into the Capitol. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 02:14:20 Federal agents encouraged the violence that day. And the government is openly organized to physically go to war the American people and provide the false flags as a pretext. And then our civilization will descend into something that makes civil war sound like a walk in the park. The involvement of certain actors, you could say deep state actors within the federal government, to set the stage for what happened in J4, 5, and 6, and 2. and trap thousands of Americans from across the country and lure them into this set stage. The people that were involved in that is quite a large web.
Starting point is 02:15:07 You just said that elements within the federal government, I assume law enforcement, intel, and military, lured Americans to Washington into what you called a trap. Yes, sir. And I assume that's a sober conclusion based on the evidence. That's what you're saying. That would be my sober assessment as an investigator. I love my country, and I've always been a staunched offender of the thin blue line,
Starting point is 02:15:36 and I would proudly count the FBI amongst that number. It's like brothers to me. So to find that level of conspiratorial corruption at the highest levels of the FBI and has been very troubling to me as a man, as a cop. Those Americans were targeted by the FBI, almost universally Republicans and largely Trump supporters, but the FBI worked undercover to infiltrate those conversations and become a significant part of those individual Americans' communications. And when you dig into the evidence that we've had revealed through some criminal cases that I've
Starting point is 02:16:22 have followed and work with the families of J6 detainees and Americans that have been persecuted for their involvement in the Capitol that day. Some of that evidence, who, shockingly, reveals that the FBI agents that were operating undercover within the online groups across the country were the first ones to plant the seeds of suggestions of a more radical occupation of the capital. So, FBI had fingerprints on this thing for many months prior to J4, 5, and 6. That is proof of entrapment, because, of course, the federal government could have prevented entry into the Capitol building. Aren't that many doors.
Starting point is 02:17:07 You work there, you know. But they allowed people in on purpose to entrap them. That's what that proves, I think. The FBI assets that were dressed as Trump supporters that were inside the Capitol, were there, I believe, and evidence indicates that they were there to specifically waive in the Trump supporters that had gathered outside the Capitol, and the doors opened and they were allowed in. On the inside were, oh, there's some more Trump supporters, but really those were FBI assets, law enforcement assets, that knew their way around the Capitol.
Starting point is 02:17:41 They waved those guys in, said, come on, follow us. You have to have a guide. And on January 6th, the guides were FBI assets, the law enforcement assets. And they were dressed as Trump supporters. They were positioned inside the Capitol prior to the doors being open so that the Americans that had assembled outside the Capitol once allowed in could be brought directly to areas where the FBI and the DOJ and the deep state actors knew would be the most. condemning criminal action of Americans being inside the Capitol protesting without permit and things. They knew it was setting the stage for arrest and prosecution. I'm not trying to create a crime to fit a narrative to blame on the FBI.
Starting point is 02:18:35 I'm following the evidence, and to my horror, it implicates our FBI at the highest level. a conspiracy within our government at the highest level to set the stage for a compromised election cycle in 2020. And then the actions that took place on J4, 5, and 6. And then the criminal investigation, arrest, and prosecution of Americans that they were able to entrap and document with the thousands of cameras that were operating that day, and use that evidence that they knew they were setting up to investigate arrest and prosecute the Americans that they had entrapped. So Congress can investigate these things, and we are, and we will reveal these horrific truths,
Starting point is 02:19:28 and we will have criminal referrals. But until you have a president run in the executive branch that will clean house at the DOJ and FBI at the eyes levels, and put American patriots in... place that will act upon the criminal referrals that that Congress provides, then none of those guys are going to get arrested because they're not going to arrest themselves. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's respond to that epic report from Alex, the Tim Pool rant, Clay Higgins, and everything we just saw.
Starting point is 02:20:11 and keep in mind that I am a January 6th defendant. I was put in prison for my political speech. And obviously I know a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff because I was directly involved. I talked to lawyers. I talked to other feds. I talked to D.C. police. We know what happened. We've got the entire thing.
Starting point is 02:20:46 But let's start first with the Tim Poole rant where he mentions my case, and he has that leftist there just stunned in disbelief. And let's start there. And let's give some other examples of this. I sat down this same studio, this same show, with one of the Krasenstein brothers, a leftist, and he sat there, straight-faced and said, Biden laptop is fake, sat there straight-faced, said January 6th was an insurrection,
Starting point is 02:21:29 plot over the other government, there was no federal involvement. So why do I bring that up? Because when you deal with these leftists, you realize rather quickly they don't live in reality, they don't do any research, they don't have any facts, they really don't know the real story at all. they take whatever propaganda that fits their beliefs, their narratives, their politics, and then they just regurgitate it and repeat it. And that's all they have. And when you actually come armed with facts and knowledge and logic,
Starting point is 02:22:06 all they can do is sit there stunned in belief and then repeat the same lie that every single time gets disproven. Every single time. Again, a Krasenstein brother on this show said, The Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation and not real. What else am I supposed to do except laughed in his face? These are not serious people. These are leftists.
Starting point is 02:22:30 These are liberals. So the guy is just sitting there taking it from Tim Poole doesn't even know what to say because Tim obviously knows what he's talking about. And this leftist is just an authoritarian who wants to see his opposition locked up and killed. Damn the facts. Damn the evidence. Damn the research. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 02:22:48 Feels good to them. They love big government as long as they can control them. So you've got the ignorance of the leftist, and you have the arrogance of the leftist, and you have the authoritarianism of the leftist. And when you combine those three factors, that's why the left is so dangerous. But now let's talk about January 6th.
Starting point is 02:23:10 They knew damn well what they were doing. The Democrats, the D.C. police, and the deep state. Donald Trump requested the National Guard, and it was rejected by the Democrat mayor of Washington, D.C., Mariel Bowser. She did not want the National Guard there that day. That was a stand down. Capitol Police, under the direction of the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, was also stood down that day. They were supposed to have backup.
Starting point is 02:23:50 They were supposed to have reinforcements. They were supposed to have increased numbers. instead Nancy Pelosi sent them home and said, no, we don't need extra support. Some inside actually wanted to get outside support. They wanted more support. They wanted more police. They wanted to be prepared. Nancy Pelosi stood down the Capitol Police.
Starting point is 02:24:08 So Democrat, Mario Bowser, stood down the National Guard. Democrat Nancy Pelosi stood down the Capitol Police. This is all on record. Not just from sources that I've interviewed on air, but also backed up by government documents. It's all on the record. We've been saying for years that they had federal informants and agents on the ground. And there's a couple anomalies and names that stick out that people kind of point to and say, oh, is this proof?
Starting point is 02:24:40 There's the famous scaffolding man. There's the situation with Ray Epps, who denies it, where he's on a list and then he's not, and then he doesn't get charges even though he says go into the Capitol, and then they do end up charging him months later, even though this has already been known. but when you're involved in these cases and you talk to the lawyers of these defendants, you find out real quick that, yes, there were definitely some form of federal agents, some form of federal informants on the ground that day, which they denied for years. Now it's public information, undercover agents, undercover police, all of it confirmed.
Starting point is 02:25:20 And the numbers you're getting now are not going to be the final numbers. I promise you that. 26 or a couple dozen? No, no, no, no. When it's all sudden done, you'll find out probably triple digits. Maybe more. Maybe more. Then there's the January 6th committee that wasn't there to actually investigate what happened on January 6th.
Starting point is 02:25:45 They were there to cement the narrative and then use it against Donald Trump so that he couldn't run for re-election. So they were not there to find out what really went on. They were there to lie to the American people. They were there to deceive the American people. The committee was run by Democrats to spin a narrative, and then what they hoped would be stopped Donald Trump from running again. They couldn't pull it off. And then when Republicans won the House in 2022,
Starting point is 02:26:15 they took over the January 6th committee. And on their way out the door, the Democrats or Liz Cheney or somebody else, erased all the evidence. Now they claim they didn't erase it. They claim it was some glitch or it got lost or a technical error, whatever. Does anybody really believe that? So now the incoming administration is saying,
Starting point is 02:26:37 well, that's a crime if you deleted evidence. That's obstruction of justice. You need to be looking at criminal referrals for this. You need to be investigated. so they tried to put into the continued resolution bill that never even made the floor, legal protection for the January 6th committee so that when they were subpoenaed or they were investigated or they were criminally referred for whatever happened to all the evidence, whatever happened to the government documents, whatever happened to all the stuff that went out
Starting point is 02:27:14 the door, they would get legal protection. a total admittance of guilt. They're calling up the Biden White House saying, give us a preemptive pardon, a total admittance of guilt. So what does it all lead up to? They didn't want there to be a review of the 2020 election because they know it was stolen. And now after the 2024 results,
Starting point is 02:27:37 what are Democrats saying? They're saying, where did all the votes go? Election fraud. Where did all the votes go? Oh, yeah, you got it right, election fraud. you just got the wrong election. So it's all blowing up in their face. Serious people are actually trying to get into the government and actually see some justice to the criminals coming out of D.C.
Starting point is 02:28:00 And the Democrats are scared. They ran January 6th. They ran the election fraud. They likely committed crimes on their way out the door of the January 6th committee. And they're afraid that somebody serious might get in there actually do something about it. But you try to explain any of this to a leftist and they sit there like a deer in the headlights. They have no clue what's going on. And based off of whoever has been writing these pardons for Joe Biden, blanket pardons need to be had day one from the Trump administration
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Starting point is 02:33:52 cover the rest of the headlines that I have on my desk for Jay Dyer set to take over for the fourth hour. We do have some geopolitical news today. Biden secretly moves troops to Syria, secretly more than doubled U.S. troops in Syria. Now, we were told it was 900. Then they came out and said it was 2,000. listen to the Pentagon excuse in clip seven. As you know, we have been briefing you regularly that there are approximately 900 U.S. troops deployed to Syria. In light of the situation in Syria and the significant interest, we recently learned that those numbers were higher.
Starting point is 02:34:48 And so asked to look into it, I learned today that in fact there are approximately 2,000 U.S. troops in Syria. As I understand it, and as it was explained to me, these additional forces are considered temporary rotational forces that deploy to meet shifting mission requirements, whereas the core 900 deployers are on longer-term deployments. And as you know, for many of our deployments, numbers will fluctuate from time to time. But given that this number is significantly higher than what we've been briefing, I wanted to let you know as soon as I found out this information. Oh, we just recently learned we had these troops over there. Really? Again, is this incompetence? Are they lying?
Starting point is 02:35:33 This is just pathetic. It's just pathetic. Now, there might be a purpose. U.S. officials travel to Syria in search of missing Americans, meeting with rebel leaders. So these proxy groups run by the CIA or Mossad that are now cutting deals with Israel and Turkey might be their resistance. So there's missing Americans in Syria. Is that why they're sending the troops there? So you've got American hostages, you've got missing Americans in Syria,
Starting point is 02:36:07 and they just let the Biden administration off the hook. They just let John Kirby off the hook. They just let all of this administration off the hook. American hostages, missing Americans, all because of the horrible foreign policy of this administration, and there's just no pressure at all. Nobody blames Biden. Nobody blames the Biden administration.
Starting point is 02:36:30 missing Americans, hostage Americans. No, we just, no, we're just not going to talk about that. As Biden doesn't even know where he is, they're doing the Christmas event at the White House and he's trying to grab kids and force them onto his lap. Russia scrambles to reinforce Libya bases after collapse of Assad regime. Russia withdraws air defense systems,
Starting point is 02:36:53 other advanced weapons from Syria, and they're going to try to move him into Libya, which of course is ironic because, you know, that was Hillary Clinton's big victory, was the collapse of Libya, the killing of Gaddafi. That was a huge victory for Hillary Clinton, her State Department, and the corrupt military industrial complex, and now they're going to end up losing it to Russia, it looks like. So that's fun. But that's just how it goes.
Starting point is 02:37:19 They get their big money grab. They get their weapons contractors paid, their stock options increase. And then every four years or so, they do more regime change and just repeat the cycle. Just rinse, wash, repeat. will happen in Syria. Russia detains Uzbek citizen as suspect in Moscow bombing that killed general. And I believe it was also Uzbekistan's that were, they blamed these Uzbekistan nationals for the mass shooting in Moscow. So it looks like the CIA groups, the State Department groups, are operating out of Uzbekistan for Ukraine.
Starting point is 02:38:05 trying to sneak them into Moscow, is what it would appear is happening there. Israel media report accuses troops of indiscriminate killing of Gaza civilians. Yeah, no kidding. Most of it's on video, and then they kicked the journalist out, and then they banned drones, so you can't see what's going on. Thousands of Jews have left Israel since the October 7th attacks. Remember how they were saying that they're all going. in, they're all going in and they're showing you those airplanes.
Starting point is 02:38:43 Yeah, actually they were all leaving. And this is the angle that they don't really tell you. Lots of people are leaving Israel, not just for safety reasons, but for economic reasons. And they don't like what the IDF and what Netanyahu is doing, putting the nation at risk, putting Israel standing on the global stage at risk. But of course, as you know, your politicians and your media, they will always be pro-Israel despite what the international community is saying or what's actually happening on the ground.
Starting point is 02:39:16 And you know, it's funny too, you have these powder kegs of ratings like Candice Owens or Dan Bilsarian and they'll just go discuss geopolitics on shows like Pierce Morgan or the Jake Shields podcast. and then immediately it's always the same. It's always the same. All these people come out and attack them and, oh, they're anti-Semites.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Insult them, call them names, and they never address what they're actually talking about. It's like you can't even just talk geopolitics. Tucker Carlson had a survivor of the USS Liberty. Or no, Candice Owens had a survivor of the USS Liberty, and they just discount him. His opinion doesn't count. He was just there. He just lived it.
Starting point is 02:40:10 Tucker Carlson has a guy talking about the history of Israel and just geopolitics and history. And then, oh, now Tucker Carlson's an anti-Semite. It's like, why can't you just talk geopolitics? Why can't you just talk foreign affairs? Why can't you just talk Middle East developments without these people just insulting you and name calling you in mass? It's not really helping your arguments either. It's actually making you look worse and weak. Israel versus Turkey, the intensifying Middle East power struggle.
Starting point is 02:40:42 So it looks like that's what's going to be happening in Syria now. Now, the Assad regime was toppled. Looks like deals were cut. And Assad had no choice but to leave. He basically got thrown out by his own people, overthrown by his own people. And so the Western-backed proxy groups ran it over through the regime, brought in their moderate rebel groups, all funded by the West, being operated by Mossad, being funded with all the money and weapons that are coming in through Ukraine,
Starting point is 02:41:20 and then they cut a deal with Israel to give Israel land, they take over Syria, and now Turkey is coming in and trying to fill the power void now that Syria has fallen and the Assad regime is over. So it's this giant power play of Israel versus Turkey, and then the West military, industrial, complex, intelligence groups, proxy armies are kind of just always involved in all of this stuff, and then every four years. So there'll probably be another regime change in Syria in four years,
Starting point is 02:41:58 and it'll be the same players, same people getting paid. That's how it just, it always goes that way, except when Trump gets into office. But they had to do all of this before Trump got in. Irish politicians refuse to remain silent about Israel's genocide in Gaza after being called anti-Semitic. Well, that's the big trick, don't you know? You say anything negative about Israel, then you just get called anti-Semitic. You talk about the history of Israel or you talk about USS Liberty or you talk about what's going on on October 7th or after.
Starting point is 02:42:29 It's just, you're anti-Semitic. Well, let's have a debate out of it. No, I don't talk to anti-Semites. Oh, okay. So there's your update on the geopolitical, news. Then you have illegal immigrants. Now, the Mexican president, Shinebaum, says she is ready to receive Mexicans deported by Donald Trump. So Trump's tariff policy, trade policy, is already having positive results in multiple sections here when it comes to dealing. By the way, ICE is already
Starting point is 02:43:03 starting to deport people. Confidence is up. Deportations are up. Some of them are turning themselves in. They want to be deported. and then you have the leftist groups that are funding these protests. Maybe they even want to start riots with these non-citizens, but they've got some of these protests started. Look at what they're doing here in clip 18. Hundreds of pro-migrant protesters outside the ICE federal detention center in downtown L.A. Demanding a sanctuary ordinance in every city.
Starting point is 02:43:37 Wearing shirts and holding signs against president-elect, Donald Trump's plans for deportations. Let them know that we're going to mobilize that we're going to fight. On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program of criminals. Trump's inauguration now just one month away. There's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of fear in the community. Floor Martinez-Oragosa here from San Jose for International Migrants Day. What's your main goal today?
Starting point is 02:44:02 To stand in solidarity, but also as somebody undocumented, somebody with DACA, my own rights are at risk. I am not afraid, but I know a lot of people that are. and it's just here to show them that they're not alone and that there's people fighting back. Bye. So look, you're going to see a lot of this. I don't really think they'll get violent.
Starting point is 02:44:24 The left would love them to get violent. I don't really think they will. It's kind of all of a bluff. Oh, I'll stand there. I'll stop the deportations. They're going to get all these astro-turf protests, but I don't think it's going to change anything. 20 million under Joe Biden.
Starting point is 02:44:46 20 million, 20 million illegal immigrants. And they've all been put on welfare. So, yeah, what do you expect? You give people free stuff and then you take it away. There's going to be some problems. But so now the left is funding protests so that these people can go out and protest the fact that we want to have secure borders and deport illegal immigrants. And then you got the stories like this. It just never ends.
Starting point is 02:45:25 It just never ends. Clip 19. You say that a man in the country illegally has been charged with child sex crimes in an eastern Carolina County. On Wednesday, detectives with the Carter Red County Sheriff's Office arrested 27-year-old Nestor Anho Anho of Newport for enticing a child to send nude photos over social media for money. Deputies also say that evidence show that Anil had sexually abused a child. He is charged with indecent liberties with a child and disseminating obscenities, both felonies. He is being held on a $150,000 secured bond. Additionally, deputies say that ICE has issued a detainer and on hell will be transferred to their custody once his court case is finished.
Starting point is 02:46:11 Deputies say additional charges are expected in this ongoing investigation. And a lot of these child abusing illegal immigrants get released from jail by liberal DAs, all funded by the U.S. taxpayer. It's just completely out of control. We should have zero tolerance for this and we need to stop it now. And the only way to do that is to hold those
Starting point is 02:46:34 responsible who brought them in, funded their travel, and funded their housing. Anybody, an NGO, a policymaker who funded the housing, facilitated the housing, funded and facilitated the travel
Starting point is 02:46:50 of any criminal that's committed, any illegal alien criminal that committed a crime, they also need to be charged as well with aiding and abetting and whatever crime that is. And this will stop immediately. It will stop immediately. All right, why does the U.S. government want you unhealthy? And RFK. Jr. hopefully going to take care of some of this. Why does the U.S. government want you unhealthy? No one has to be healthy. San Francisco taps fat activist as weight stigma czar. And this woman is about his unhealthy looking as you could possibly be,
Starting point is 02:47:30 but you need to have that. You need to promote that. We need to promote obesity. Instead of saying, hey, you know, you're unhealthy, because this is what the doctors would use to say to you. You know, you've, you're putting your health at risk. You're setting yourself up for a shorter lifespan than you should. And some major health complications,
Starting point is 02:47:53 you might want to lose some weight and change your diet. Now it's, oh, you're fat and obese. So, hey, that's great. That's empowering. Don't let anyone tell you how to live. Go have a donut or 10. And they promote these new positions. Weight stigmas are.
Starting point is 02:48:11 It's not a stigma. What happened to science? What happened to believe the science? It's not a stigma that if you're 100 pounds overweight and obese, that you're going to have health problems. Okay, that is a fake photo. That is not even funny. No, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 02:48:27 that's me with my girlfriend, Shamu. That is just, this crew is just sick. There's sick people. We have sick people in this crew. Putting my face snuggling up next to Shamu, the weight stigmas are. Oh my gosh. It's ridiculous. You try to host a show and your crew undermines you right there live on air for all to see.
Starting point is 02:49:01 Unbelievable. No, I was not pictured with Shammy. The weight stigmas are in gay pride socks. Sorry. Sorry to let you down, folks. But hey, that's the new, that's the new doctor's advice. Oh, yeah, you're 150 pounds overweight and your heart can barely beat. So, great job.
Starting point is 02:49:21 Yeah, oh, I'm not going to tell you to lose weight. And then they want to attack all the options that you have out there. The FDA, under orders from the Biden regime and Big Pharma lobbyist, released a threatening letter to low-cost, fully safe, and compound GLP-1 peptides. They want to force patients on overly expensive patented drugs. FDA, knockoff versions of Lilly Obesity Drug must come off the market. FDA finalized decision to end Lilly's GLP1. So it's well known about peptides.
Starting point is 02:50:10 Anybody that's looked into peptides, all kinds of great. benefits there. But no, no, no, no. We don't want cheap options, just like we don't want hydroxychloroquine, just like we don't want ivermectin. You have to go by whichever pharmaceutical lobbyists
Starting point is 02:50:23 spends the most money in D.C., you have to go buy their drugs. That's what you have to do, is buy their drugs, okay? Have you been able to get your Amazon packages? Because there is a massive Amazon strike, and apparently growing, Amazon suffers Christmas blow as 10,000 workers walk off the job at worst possible time.
Starting point is 02:50:51 It is hitting New York, Atlanta, Southern California, San Francisco, and Skokie, Illinois. It's also apparently gone global, and they're threatening other cities will strike as well. Teamsters say momentum continues as Christmas time strikes against Ames. Amazon enters day two. Well, this could be the flavor of the season. Shut down the government. Amazon workers go on strike. What's next?
Starting point is 02:51:23 You already have all the fat, liberal, purple-haired woman on a sex strike. Of course, this changes nothing, but they said it. It's the season of strikes. Obese, liberal, blue-haired women are still not having sex, but it's a sex strike. Amazon workers are striking. the government's going to be shut down. It's the season of the shutdown. You know, I would like to see some action here.
Starting point is 02:51:57 House weaponization panel releases 17,000 page report exposing two-tiered system of government. The subcommittee says it took important steps to ensure that the federal government no longer works against the American people. Representative Jim Jordan calls confidential human source a fancy name for spy. That's about the January 6th riot. So we hear all about this, but we never see any action. We never see any criminal referrals or anything else. I hope that changes in the next Congress because this is getting to be ridiculous. It's beginning to get ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:52:36 And I wonder if this has anything to do with Catherine Harage, a very well-respected journalist. She's teasing a new story here in Clip 16. Some stories are just difficult to report. This story about attacks on our intelligence, military, and State Department personnel. I've really been picking up on and off for maybe four or five, six years. The working title for this project right now is government gaslighting. That is what the U.S. intelligence community and the CIA has been doing to injured personnel. And it's more than a dozen countries.
Starting point is 02:53:19 across the globe where these events have happened. There are these common threads. They're common threads with the type of injuries they're having. The evidence is building, and it appears likely that a foreign adversary is behind these attacks. This is a highly vetted group, and they're trusted with some of the U.S. governments most closely held secrets. And if you acknowledge that U.S. government personnel, are being targeted overseas while on assignment.
Starting point is 02:53:56 It sends the message that nobody is safe. Well, yeah, nobody's safe when your own government hates you. Your own government attacks you. You think they care if a foreign adversary attacks you? They probably like it. Your own government doesn't like you. So why would they care if someone else attacks you? They probably endorsed it.
Starting point is 02:54:13 Give them the green light. All right. Should we have a laugh? Have you ever seen, when was the last time he saw Brian Stelter? You know, he's back. Somehow he got back at CNN. And then Jim Acosta, the crying session. We should probably send them a lifetime supply of Kleenexes.
Starting point is 02:54:31 They're going to need them for the next four years with Trump in office. They're really upset. They're really upset that the Democrats couldn't get their bill passed and that we the people with Donald Trump and Elon Musk helped stop it. Here they are crying about it, clip 17. Fresh and innovative ideas. That is a part of what makes government better. But Musk, this unelected figure who has this,
Starting point is 02:54:53 enormous amount of power. It sometimes seems as if he's just starting to learn how the government's functions. Unelected. Hold on. Pause it. Pause it. Unelected. How many votes did Kamala receive to become the Democrat nominee again?
Starting point is 02:55:08 Okay, just checking. Go ahead, coffee boy. False. And by the way, it's not just me saying it. Representative Dan Crenshaw, a Republican lawmaker tweeted to Musk last night and said, I love you, Elon, but you need to take five seconds to check your sources before highlighting bottom feeders looking for clicks. You know, Musk likes to post anonymous accounts that are spreading misinformation.
Starting point is 02:55:30 And let's recognize a lot of people have benefited from Musk. You know, the Tesla stock has been on a tear lately. Lots of CEOs going to Mar-a-Lago. They're probably jealous of Musk right now, both because of his relationship to Trump and because of the performance of Tesla and Musk's other companies. So there's a lot Musk can bring to government. But his behavior on X and his influence over the spending bill, it also shows how misinformation is at work here, Jim?
Starting point is 02:55:55 Yeah, I mean, for all the talk of calling people fake news, and so we can put this up on screen. All right, all right. Let's get those two clowns off the screen there. They're back. Oh, yes. Stelter Acosta in the age of Trump round two. Get ready.
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Starting point is 02:59:45 You are the Resistance. If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance. I'm shown to I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. Today we're going to return to a subject that we've covered quite a bit on the fourth hour, and that is the history of dark, esoteric, occult groups. And particularly the occult groups online, that engage in grooming, mind control, brainwashing. They utilize occult, esoteric ideas and philosophies to entrap,
Starting point is 03:00:32 really, I would say, kind of damaged, weak, and usually young people. And I brought on today with me, someone who's done a lot of great research in this field. I happened to notice her work when she was on a podcast that I was on some months back. She goes by the handle BX on Twitter. and she recently put out a four-part series that we're going to kick it off with, and then we'll get into the recent shooting with the Rupnow character and what her insights were on that.
Starting point is 03:01:01 But welcome, BX. Why don't you tell us first and foremost what this whole idea of accelerationism is? I think a lot of people in this audience probably have not heard of that yet, and that's something that you've been focusing on. What is it? Why is it something that we need to be concerned with? Yeah, so a lot of people get confused when you say accelerationism, because they think you're talking about like the tech pro stuff.
Starting point is 03:01:23 But really what we're talking about, when we talk about accelerationism in terms of like this new domestic terrorism landscape, it's a doctrine or a set of tactics that people are using to facilitate the, accelerate the collapse of Western tradition, a Western society. It's a form of terrorism. And the idea is basically that by going out and provoking terror attacks, by provoking chaos or by inciting division and fighting within, you know, different political factions in the U.S., you can facilitate this collapse, whether it be a financial
Starting point is 03:01:54 collapse or a civil war. And this kind of fantasy they live out is that in the ashes of smoldering ashes of the U.S., they will rebirth something that's unique to various different groups that utilize accelerationism, be it some kind of like extreme fascism or, you know, what have you. So it's really a new type of domestic terrorism that's being used to provoke and incite people, especially vulnerable people, into committing terror attacks by proxy for some of these groups. Right. I remember hearing about this term in the Internet domain maybe four years ago.
Starting point is 03:02:36 It wasn't yet seen as something significant to kind of take notice of to watch. And over time, it's kind of evolved into like you're talking about, something beyond just this terminology of the text sphere. Are there any thinkers or philosophers that are usually pointed to that are known that were influences on this ideology or is this spring directly from some of the satanic groups that we'll talk about here in a minute like the Order of Nine Angles? Does this, is there like a philosopher, a nihilist, seems to have a lot of connection with nihilism and sort of the beauty of destruction and death and chaos as a tool for rebirth?
Starting point is 03:03:15 Well, it can definitely be traced back to, like, philosophers like Julius Avola. That's actually one that's really frequently, you know, I guess, boosted up in these communities. Like, they want you to read these kind of old philosophy books about collapse. Obviously, Siege, James Mason's Siege is a big part of it. That's more of like a newer version of accelerationism that focuses on more like decentralized networks and the importance of decentralized networks, and that's actually brilliant, evil, brilliant, but brilliant in the sense that without a serious organizational structure,
Starting point is 03:03:52 law enforcement is constantly having to fight to keep up with these guys. So that's definitely been something that transformed the terrorism landscape as well. As far as recently, you know, to identify this, the way accelerationism as a theory is being exploited by bad actors, I have to give all the credit to this. military analyst Jade Parker, who I stumbled upon a year and a half ago that really kind of, you know, and I've had a lot of people watch my video about Jade Parker and me finding all this and tell me, like, you know, this, I kind of saw the pieces and I kind of understood, but that just really, like,
Starting point is 03:04:30 put it all together and I finally understood what was going on. So I credit her work for really bringing that to the public attention as it exists today. Yeah, we're going to talk about that in a minute. I want to get into some of the issues around the MKU that you talked about. I want to talk about order of not angles. But before we get to that, we do have a brief break. This is The Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host host.
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Starting point is 03:06:31 use what's called terrorgram, and other outlets such as Discord to lure in unwitting Patsy's dopes and really use them to commit really outrageous actions, actions of terror. And why would they do this? Well, believe or not, there's actually a kind of making your bones initiation process that's involved in this and they really look for really weak, susceptible people that they can utilize for this and then the inner
Starting point is 03:06:59 group, the people that are really sort of handling of the provocateurs, they never really get caught. So I want to go to that next because BX is with us and she's done a lot of great research on this. She was mentioning the woman that kind of tipped her to this, tipped her off to this. Her name was Jade. And Jade
Starting point is 03:07:15 was somebody who was doing a military-related research on counterterrorism and came across this idea of the accelerationist ideology being used amongst some of these networks and groups to prompts people to do some pretty heinous actions. And then there was kind of a side drama that she encountered with this Jade figure. Do you want to talk about some of that? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 03:07:39 So basically, when I came across Jade, it's because I was already kind of familiar with what was going on. I kind of already figured out that, like, for example, mass shootings weren't lone wolf actors like we thought that there were actually people talking to these kids on telegram and on on Discord. And so I was chasing around leads trying to figure out who these people were. I wanted to know who they were. And I found myself, interestingly enough, in the Incell community. This is the involuntarily celibate community, which is these socially rejected young men who think they'll never be able to find a girlfriend and they're mad about it, right?
Starting point is 03:08:16 And I noticed that they were being kind of funneled into this echo chamber forum where this website where they were just being radicalized against society. And nihilism is a big part of this. So like, you know, making it hopeless to them. And then I noticed that there were people there who were provoking specifically to violence. And this kind of matched what I was looking for. And so that's when I got in contact with a woman who did a podcast about themselves. and she told me that my theories that I was telling her were almost identical to her friend Jades
Starting point is 03:08:50 and it wasn't until sometime later that I ended up trying to find Jain, find Jade and then I came to find that Jade was missing and nobody had heard from her several months and that she had put what she called a Dead Man Switch online and kind of hit it. We had to kind of dig to find it. But the Dead Man Switch, so that she called it, really outlined how she had come up
Starting point is 03:09:14 with this idea of militant accelerationism that we are talking about right now and how the academics in her circle wanted to steal that idea from her and kind of distort it and not give her any credit. And then after that, yeah, she went missing. But now you had you have this idea that you're running with, I'm not in a bad way. I mean, you have her research kind of solidifying some of the theories about, people like Robert Creamo, the shooter from a while back, and he put up a manifesto.
Starting point is 03:09:50 You seem to have decoded this in terms of the cryptography that he was using this synagraphic approach, right? Well, now the manifesto itself is actually like a book of numbers. He had developed what we call an alternate reality game. And we no longer think that that was directly related to the shooting. We think that he put that together sometime before the shooting as part of his music promotion. but we have still kind of been obsessed with decoding it. No one's decoded it yet. It's tricky.
Starting point is 03:10:20 And with Kno, was there a connection to some of these ideas and some of these groups, accelerationism, et cetera? There were some unusual people that he had contact with online prior to the shooting. And even his family had said to me that, you know, they noticed a change in his behavior around the time he started talking to these individuals. And some of these individuals, he even flew around the country. to visit and there's pictures of him shooting guns with some of these people. The people who he was in contact with though came from a Gore website, which is another
Starting point is 03:10:54 very, that's another common theme that you're going to see is that these guys are getting involved in certain fringe online communities that either glorify violence or desensitize you to violence. And somehow from there they get in, you know, kind of, I would say brainwashed, you know, brainwashed into believing that they need to go commit some kind of large-scale attack in order to facilitate whatever it is that they're being groomed to do. Yeah, I've seen similar patterns with, I've studied a lot of sexually based cults, and what they will do is sort of find people with certain proclivities, kind of bring them in
Starting point is 03:11:31 and, like, in a sort of a grooming process. And then you get them with the blackmail and then you sort of own these people, right? And we've seen this with high-profile people with even Epstein, type stuff, which wasn't necessarily a cult, but kind of ran on the same program of luring people in with their vices. So vices can become a lure by which more cunning people can control other less sophisticated, less cunning people. And these online networks are really, I think, are really, they're prime for that.
Starting point is 03:12:03 I can also remember, and I want to ask you about this, because this touches on the David Mayet stuff that we'll get here in a second. But I remember some years ago I was studying a lot of Islamic terror and how. the cells worked. And there's a lot of patterns that are common there. I know that one of the MKU guys that you highlighted will, he puts out some information where he sees Mujahideen as a model for how he would engage in poisoning and other actions of terror that they promoted out of the Ukraine, this other group. But did you notice any patterns with the way that provocateurs and handlers, for example, in some of the cases of Islamic cell networks, and I'm not at all pro-Islam,
Starting point is 03:12:45 I'm a big critic of Islam, but there have been cases, many cases where the establishment, the FBI, perhaps the CIA in other countries, they utilize these terror groups and networks, and there's a structure, a pattern to where the handler becomes a kind of a father figure, they sort of groom them and get them to do these actions through a lot of just really psychological manipulation. Do you see a pattern with what? what happens with these groups where, you know, you've got lonely young men, especially, that are being groomed into these kinds of actions through a provocateur. It's a mishmash.
Starting point is 03:13:20 I mean, like, if you go to the in-cell forum, you can see that, which you're describing a lot more directly, which is like really black, it's called the black pill for a reason. They're trying to convince these kids that there's no solution that they, that, like, society has failed them, women have failed them. They're never going to get a girlfriend. There's no point in even trying. And at this point, then once they're at rock bottom, then they're primed for these people to come in and say, you know what?
Starting point is 03:13:45 You don't kill yourself. You might as well just go out and be a martyr. You might as well just go out and make a change. Make waves, right? Like, you know, once the, or they'll come out and say, you need to go attack a power grid. Because once the U.S. infrastructure collapses, you'll have all the women you want to rape just running around the street scare. Like, it's ridiculous, right? But you can understand that the people who are falling from.
Starting point is 03:14:09 this, they've already just been taken down to the bottom of the barrel so that they feel like there's no other way out. So that's one thing I see. You mentioned compromise, and I've also seen them use that, basically saying, you know, if you want to prove yourself for our group, this is more along the lines of like 764 and NLM stuff, or the MKU cult that you were talking about. You know, if you want to be part of our cult, then you have to go and video yourself committing an act of terror. And if you don't do that, you can't be part of our group. Or you have people basically
Starting point is 03:14:43 saying, you know, using people's dirty laundry to try to get them to do it any way they can, they will. I would say that it's what I'm seeing is a lot less sophisticated than what I expected to see, which is what you're describing. I was, I was, you know, really expecting to see some real sophisticated brainwashing, but really it's a lot more stochastic in nature where they're throwing out a wide net, finding the person I think is vulnerable and then figuring out how they can coerce that person to go do that act. And some of the specific entities that we're talking about here, for example, one of the things that you highlighted was the process of infiltration of some of these groups. And it's not all feds. It's not all intelligence operatives.
Starting point is 03:15:30 Like you said, there's people who really are into it who just do it kind of on their own and there are provocateurs. But in a couple of the videos that you put up, you highlight. the apparent winking of the eye or ignoring the actual people who seem to be really heavily pushing stuff in some of these forums. And they were actually going after the sort of low-level people. What's your explanation of that? Is that because there's some level of systemic promotion of these things? Or what do you make of that? Actually, I think that it has a much more innocent explanation being, now that I've seen all of this for so long, and I've read, I've been in, I'm,
Starting point is 03:16:08 I've seen so many arrests so far. Like, it's crazy to see, like, the person that we're like, this is him, a provocateur. We're researching him, right? And then he gets busted and goes, like, Butcher did, that you're talking about from MKU, Mikhail, Chikik, Mishvili. That, to me, was like, wow, they did arrest him. They arrested this guy. And the reason that it took so long, partially, is because they're anonymous individuals online. And it's really kind of hard to find who some of these people are when they're using, like, Tor and VPN and fake identities.
Starting point is 03:16:37 and then you have the added challenge that this guy's in Moldova. He's in Georgia, the country. He's in Serbia. These people are in Ukraine. Like, how do we get to these people? There's a challenge being that a lot of them are international as well. And then if they're American, a lot of times the problem becomes, and I'm kind of on the fence about what this call this a problem.
Starting point is 03:16:59 But, you know, there's a very, very high bar that you have to meet for people who aren't actually committing. violence, right? To get them on charges of like inciting violence, it's a very high bar. So the, the, I guess the level of free speech, you know, you have to overcome a specific requirement to kind of meet that. And I think that what we're seeing is that also, I think we were early when we were noticing and identifying the stuff. I don't think that even the, I mean, I'm sure the feds had noticed it in some, I knew, I'm sure they knew about it, right? But they hadn't actually really started moving on it.
Starting point is 03:17:38 We've seen about three or four arrests now of people who I would consider shadowy provocateurs. And as much as like when I started this research, I expected them to be like feds or like CIA contractor dudes like scruffed up, murder. They're scrawny little geeks who look like they've honestly never left their house. They look like they've spent the last five years behind a computer. And some of them are very young. And it's just mind blowing. Yeah, I mean, but what?
Starting point is 03:18:06 One thing that's interesting, though, is that you mentioned in the case of the power grid. You know, that's something that the establishment has been warning was coming for a good while. And, of course, they said, oh, it's going to be a Trump supporter that's going to go and take out the power grid because Trump works with Russia, all of which I think was politicized nonsense. I don't think that's really the case. But you did highlight that. You mentioned that one of the videos, which suggests that there is some level politicization of a lot of this to make it seem like there's all these white supremacist. premises that are running crazy, but in actuality, the neo-Nazi element is actually co-opted and
Starting point is 03:18:43 sort of blended with a really hardcore satanic philosophy, which I'm going to get to now, which comes out of this order of non-angled philosophy. Yeah, no, you're right, 100%. So there's the reality, and then there's how the reality is construed after the fact. And what we were seeing was that, like, for example, with Jade Parker's academic colleagues, they were the ones who were really pushing this like far right extremism angle and you know for me I've always been like well this isn't far right at all like this is far left like these people are like national socialists like these people are you know a lot of them are very
Starting point is 03:19:21 anarchist like this isn't like saying far right is very sneaky term that's intentionally used to kind of get people thinking that this is like a conservative phenomenon when it's not This is just extremism. And so, yeah, of course they're going to take that and twist it and politicize it. Even the FBI and the feds and stuff have a tendency to kind of make it seem more like its far right extremism. I'm not hoping that that's going to change soon as more facts start coming out and people start paying attention to this like 764 in L.M.
Starting point is 03:19:54 I mean, these are foreign actors from Eastern Europe. You know, these are foreign terrorists. This isn't even something that's a lot of times. It's not even domestic. So, yeah, I'm hoping, I have high hopes that we're going to see some changes here soon. Well, if you think about people, a lot of people don't know this unless you get really deep into political philosophy, but a lot of the far-left groups and actually far, far-right groups, they actually meet, they come all the way around and meet because, for example, in the case of, in one of your videos,
Starting point is 03:20:26 you mentioned that some of these groups promote esoteric Hitlerism, this is people like Sabitri Davy, who are adjacent to the perennialists like Julius Evela. And the concern for radical ecology, the return of nature worship, these are some of the ideas involved in some of that radical, quote, far right, getting rid of the existing system through revolutionary means, getting rid of the Federal Reserve, all those things are kind of tied into, quote, far right. But they also overlap on some of those points with far, far left, ecology, you know, the revolutionary ethos that needs to be this cleansing.
Starting point is 03:21:00 And as I watched your documentaries, I noticed in how many cases you could see people far right, nihilists and far left, both agreeing on the need for destroying the existing system, a cleansing, which would be some sort of spiritual, satanic new era that would come in. And that's the religious ethos that's tacked onto this stuff. And that's why, for example, they talked about martyrdom. If you're a, you know, lonely in-cell, why not become a martyr, make a name for yourself? And I just thought that was fascinating because in a lot of these systems that are being promoted, these ideas, it's very religious, maybe not overtly, but they're utilizing the idea of religious philosophy. So tell us about the Order of Nine Angles and what this, this guy actually does have a history of being a Fed, the David Mayek character. Tell us about him in the Order of Nine Angles and how they co-opted in and sort of tweaked this satanic religious philosophy. It's super fascinating.
Starting point is 03:21:57 And kind of what you just explained is accelerationism. The way that these, this far left and the far right and all these weird, you know, satanic wackos all meet on this concept of collapse. And so they can use each other and they can work with each other without agreeing with each other ideologically. And I think that's really important to note. As far as the Order of Nightingles goes. So David Mayett himself, you know, he's British. I don't know that he has, he definitely. was involved in some sketchy Operation Gladiot era like ops around neo-fascism back in like the
Starting point is 03:22:36 70s and 80s. He started this. Well, everybody, this is an interesting cult, okay, because there's a lot of questions around how it actually arose and who started it. And you really don't have much to go by except for David Mayitz's word on a lot of it, unfortunately. But if you're listening, to like what the traditional agreement is. It's that David Mayett started this cult. He was a longtime national socialist. He was involved in a lot of gladio-era-neofascist groups like Colomadiate and those kinds of things. And then he basically decided to get into esoteric cultism.
Starting point is 03:23:18 And he joined a very fringe cult in the UK. And then I think what happened is that that person ended up leaving and he took over. it. And he geared his cult towards national socialism and collapse. But the way he wanted to do that was by creating this praxis, this philosophy around this new eonic era of, you know, an Aryan imperium where like basically only the fittest Aryans would survive the collapse. And then they would go on to colonize the Milky Way because of course, of course they would. Of course there's like an apocalyptic death cult vibe to this because it was the same. 70s, you know. And so that, he actually built this whole lovecraftian cult.
Starting point is 03:24:03 I mean, it's really similar to Scientology in this sheer amount of, of like literature that he published on this. Very, very prolific. And so the idea behind the cult was you started in the cult and then you infiltrated various organizations and try to subvert them to, you know, to push national socialist ideology. And if you're listening to what Ma'yatt believes, he thought that this was the best way to kind of get national socialism in a position where it could actually win. He didn't think that there was any hope for the national socialist movement at the time. And so, you know, by going
Starting point is 03:24:41 and subverting and doing sinister acts, which include, you know, murdering people, which they call culling, you know, this is, these are the ways that we're going to basically end the Judeo-Christian era of civilization and start a new sinister eon of evil where they would be the rulers of the galaxy. That's Order of Nine Angles. It's evolved over time to include people from all over the world. There's plenty of different Nexians that have come out. Some of them have feuded. Some of them don't like to be called Order of Nine Angles anymore. Mayotte himself seems to, and I've used this term a lot, but to me, I've talked to him, multiple times.
Starting point is 03:25:26 And to me, he just seems like an old man full of regret. He desperately tries to separate his group, the Order of Nine Angles, from the child abuse components that came later, even though it seems kind of self-evident that a religion based around doing the most evil stuff imaginable to collapse society would eventually give rise to some of the stuff
Starting point is 03:25:49 we're seeing like the 764 network. So that's kind of, what happened. You did mention in your video that there was a connection between him and the FBI. Is that the case? So that, so you're talking about Joshua Sutter. Joshua Sutter was the creator of a nexian called Temple of Blood. That nexian was eventually disavowed by David Miet.
Starting point is 03:26:15 And that's the one, Joshua Sutter is the one who wrote all of these disgusting books about child sexual abuse. and basically turned that into like a mainstream, like a tenet of the Temple of Blood. Now, the Temple of Blood, it ended up, Dill Sutter under Temple of Blood, you know, affiliation, infiltrated Adam Woffin Division. Okay. And so that's how we found out that he was a federal informant because during the trials of the Adam Woffin guys, they tried to put this forward as like a biased case. because they had shown that the person who had tipped everybody off was an informant,
Starting point is 03:26:57 who also ran a rival sect of satanic neo-Nazis. And that person was easily identified from the criminal complaint as being Joshua Sutter. So he got outed. And that was really, really impactful because, like, now, honestly, the FBI and the DOJ really need to address why this person was allowed. to inform and give information to law enforcement while also pushing this kind of ideology. It's very concerning. Well, I mean, your video mentioned that the FBI, you put up an image of a article that was talking about the FBI funding.
Starting point is 03:27:38 Was it his book publishing or the neo-Nazi occult book publisher? So here's what that's kind of misleading. I think that what I've put together is that he was paid to be an informant. So he was paid for like, I guess, I don't know how they do it, like for the arrest that he made, right? Like he was paid for his work. Yeah, I guess so. But and it just so happened that during that time, he was also publishing these books. So, yeah, technically, if the FBI was paying him and he was using that money to put out books,
Starting point is 03:28:12 whether the FBI knew about that or not is, you know. But regardless, it's an ethical quandary, right? Right. One more question on my mind before we go. to break. I know if I recall reading about him, he also kind of moved into radical Islamic philosophy for a while. Is that true?
Starting point is 03:28:30 Yeah, that was back, I think it probably the 90s or so. I'm not sure exactly, but you know, that's a great example of an insight role, which is what these guys call it when they infiltrate some kind of different organization and try to subvert it from within
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Starting point is 03:33:33 Today we're talking with BX, online researcher and a journalist investigator. You can follow her over on Twitter and I think on YouTube. and we're talking about the different online cults and networks that are used to groom people into outrageous actions and some of the ideologies that these groups are promoting. I want to move on next to the group that she's highlighted called 764 and then I want to talk about the maniac murder cult. What is 764 and what perhaps have they influenced? What recent internet figures perhaps this Spitz character who was making the rounds on Twitter? How was the influenced by the 764 and what is that? 764 is a child exploitation and extortion network.
Starting point is 03:34:18 It's a group of individuals who they really just abuse, sexually abuse, and otherwise extort and harm children. That's their focus. It's part of a broader community online known as Calm, which is just a network of cybercriminals. The people who were found to be swatting figures like Tim Poole and Marjor Taylor Green, were connected to this this calm network. In fact, almost all of the doxing and swatting and school fake bomb threats and school shooting hoaxes are coming from this group. It's a very serious problem.
Starting point is 03:34:52 So stemming off of that, you know, this group of really just nasty kids online, it seems that at some point they were, I wouldn't say infiltrated, but I would say influenced by some of this satanic ideology that we've been covering. and that made its way into a spinoff group called 764, which was focused on, you know, satanic imagery, getting kids to self-harm on camera, carve their abusers' names into their bodies, and paint satanic imagery on the walls with blood, really shocking stuff. They would use sexual content they would get from the kids to extort them and force them to do more and more, egregious things on camera, including killing their pets and up to an including committing suicide
Starting point is 03:35:43 on camera. It's really, when I say this very, like I've investigated a lot of crazy stuff. This is the most evil thing that you can imagine happening. It is, it is so, some of the people who've been arrested in these cases are getting nailed to the wall. Thankfully, like the justice the system is seeing that the evilness of their, the evil nature of their crimes goes past beyond what our legal system can code, right? Like when you get charged with production and distribution of child pornography, like this is the most extreme example that you could really have.
Starting point is 03:36:22 And all of it's happening online for the most part. Are these groups, are they having a wide amount of influence or are they very niche? Is this, again, does it overlap like with the insult forums or is this something more video game gamer influenced? I remember you called out a lot of perhaps Minecraft groups that were being used to recruit kids really for this kind of stuff. Is that accurate? They recruit kids from all different areas of the Internet. One of the biggest ones that's been highlighted the most is the Roblox and Minecraft communities, where they would make Roblox characters with swat.
Starting point is 03:37:01 Ostica's all over them and a shirt that said CP lover and they would go and invite kids to Discord servers. And then in the Discord server, they would basically just be exposing the kids to child sexual abuse material, gore, and things of that nature to just kind of desensitize them and honestly recruit them into the group, not just to abuse them, but to create new abusers. It's almost like recruiting people. And then as far as the victim pools, they came from a lot of different areas as well, like eating disorder communities and self-harm, suicide forums, and places where they knew that they would find teens that were at their lowest that they could exploit. And so that's kind of all of that came together into some of the most horrific imagery I can imagine being subjected to. I've seen stuff from this group that's just beyond comprehension. And there was a recent clip going around that was kind of out of context of a guy named Spitz who had was on the receiving end of a gunshot from his stepdad and people thought that this
Starting point is 03:38:08 was sort of just a crazy stepdad. But it turns out there was a reason why the stepdad was engaging in this action and this brawl they had. That was because this kid apparently was involved in one of these 764 groups, correct? Yes. Kyle Spitz, man, what a crazy viral. plot twists, right? So I saw this video of him getting clipped in the ear by a bullet. And I just like everybody else, I was like, this is a wild video. What is happening here? Right? There's no context. And everybody mostly was just calling the stepdad crazy. But then that in, so at this time
Starting point is 03:38:43 when that video came out in January, I had already been researching 764 for a bit. I already knew of their existence and had been trying, you know, kind of following and starting to research how that came to be. So I was, I was already on my radar. And then in that, when that video came out, I started seeing the comments, people were victims were trying to get attention to themselves saying that this guy was part of 764. So to me, I was like, whoa, you know, here we go. And I was able to find him and find his telegram channel and find all of his friends and map out their network within a couple of days. And I was able, that was about a week later after that video when viral is when his mother died. And he,
Starting point is 03:39:25 posted a video of himself with her dead body on telegram, but it was just so crazy, man. It was so crazy. So then the victims kind of asked me if I could make a tweet about it because they were tired of him, like in law and crime, YouTube channel had like interviewed Kyle Spitz. Like, oh, we're so happy. You're okay. And like, I'm like, man, that's crazy. Like, you know, I'd be mad if I were a victim too.
Starting point is 03:39:49 So I put this tweet out telling them, like, don't expect much because I'm really a nobody. And then the tweet blew up. because people were like, oh my God, this is an insane plot twist, right? It turns out that the kid who got shot was one of the most evil people imaginable. Now, I don't think the stepdad was necessarily much better. I mean, I think the whole family was just like a lost cause. Okay.
Starting point is 03:40:13 They were all bad. However, I think that that was really what got people kind of drawn in. And from there, we were able to kind of start spreading awareness about this group that had really gone under-recognized. A lot of people didn't know it existed. And to me it's really important to start warning parents, warning people about this, because these people are praying on your kids everywhere on the Internet. And every parent needs to be aware of this group and what they're doing.
Starting point is 03:40:42 Now, in the case of other online groups, the next one I want to move to is you highlighted the MQU or what's called MMC. the maniac murder cult. And this was originally a Ukrainian far-right-connected neo-Nazi group that was then taken over by a Georgian character. And they were also utilizing Minecraft to
Starting point is 03:41:08 try to recruit people to do this. How does this relate to 764 and or the 09A? So I have a theory about it that's been increasingly validating itself as time goes on.
Starting point is 03:41:23 But what it seems to me like what happened is, so the MQU is a Ukrainian-based neo-Nazi satanic cult of serial killers. It's fun stuff. There was a person named Igor Krasnoff who had taken inspiration from these people who'd gone on this famous murder spree with hammers, right? And this guy, Igor Krasnoff, was just an insane person. He started this kind of cult, and we saw evidence that Igor was also, into 09A and into the satanic ideologies.
Starting point is 03:41:56 Now, Igor got arrested because he had had Russian nationals committing terror attacks in Russia. So the Russian government put out information that, you know, hey, these guys are terrorists. These guys are a neo-Nazi satanic cult. And it's funny is the American media back then when this happened, we're like, that's Russian disinformation and stuff. Right. But then all these years later, this year actually, his success. his name was butcher was arrested for, you know, provoking terror attacks against the U.S. And he was planning some really sick stuff.
Starting point is 03:42:33 So now those same news outlets were being forced to basically admit that this is real. There is a Ukrainian neo-Nazi Satanist cult. So in terms of how they got involved with 764, my theory is that they saw this as a group they could infiltrate and get people to do evil stuff. because obviously they can, right? They're already doing the most evil stuff imaginable. And so I think what happened is that MQ came into 764 and they tried to create a spinoff group called NLM, which stands for No Lives Matter.
Starting point is 03:43:06 And that group was like, hey, we're not going to focus on child exploitation or extortion. We're going to focus on real life actions, terror attacks. To be one of us, you have to go commit a mass stabbing, a mass shooting on camera, right? And so I think that that's, how MKE you merged with 764 is that they saw them as a proxy terrorist pool of Patsies, right, to go do stuff on their behalf. Well, and also, I know you didn't focus on this angle of it, but if you go back to Gladiow and you mentioned Mayett being involved in column 88,
Starting point is 03:43:41 now the whole history of Gladiow is really bound up with OSS and CIA people setting up these cell networks. David Williams argues that it was Kissinger that was running most of the, at least the Italian stuff with Gladio, where the whole government was basically being run by the P2 lodge, which was Masonic, neo-fascist, which sounds contradictory, but there actually were Italian lodges that were neo-fascist that supported Mussolini. I'm curious because there's also a long history that connects CIA operations to some of these groups in the Ukraine, particularly with the Gaelin org in the history of Gailen's network being brought into Western intelligence when the Nazis lost through Dulles and others. So I'm curious, is there any connection you think between any of those people and the groups in Ukraine that you're talking about and Western intelligence or other intelligence networks? I mean, I don't personally know, but however, it's really hard to look at these groups and not see gladio era ops, right?
Starting point is 03:44:47 I mean, you look at this and you're like, wow, this really does seem like there's intelligence and community involvement. That wouldn't surprise me at all. You know, granted, I don't have any, like, any research to show you this. But, yeah, I mean, just given, like, the history that you described and what we're seeing, it's definitely a question that you could ask. So, and now in the case of moving through these, these figures, the maniac murder cult, they have been. promoted what is known as the Hater's Handbook. And I'm guessing that that's kind of been disseminated as a material that's influencing some of these people, too.
Starting point is 03:45:27 It's kind of like tactics, right, on how to do a lot of this stuff online. Was this the handbook, by the way, that I think references Mujahideen techniques and utilizing them for this sort of neo-Nazi approach to terrorism? Is that the main thing that they produce that sort of really influencing people? The Hader's handbook So the Mujah Hadin's Poison Handbook I don't know if he just had that like separately
Starting point is 03:45:52 But the haters handbook is What I would consider a terrorism manual It is an instructional guide On how to commit terrorism It includes mass shootings Mass stabbings Truck ramming How to make rice
Starting point is 03:46:08 How to make bombs Did you see that that just happened Germany There's a massive truck attack in Germany. Today? Yeah, just now. Oh, no. I have to look at it. Yeah, I don't know that connects to this.
Starting point is 03:46:23 I'm just just on. Honestly, it seems like all of them do now lately. Every, since I started looking into this, like honestly, almost every attack like this has been somehow linked to not necessarily just to MKU, but to this festering accelerationism doctrine, right? But the haters handbook itself that does
Starting point is 03:46:41 have like recipes for ricin, recipes for bombs. And it's also got a heavy satanic element. Like, it's basically like, here's why we're connecting national socialism and Satanism. And it's just an explanation of why we're doing it. And then it's a push for genocide, like you were talking about at the beginning, right? This idea that in order to accelerate the new eon, we have to genocide all of the scum. And it pushes nihilism and it pushes misanthropy, just the hatred of humans. And so anytime that I'm seeing this now pop up in manifestos, right? The word scum, the word, you know, just hatred of humans. I hate my fellow man. And therefore, all of them are scum and therefore it's justified for me to go
Starting point is 03:47:26 kill them because it's the right thing to do for evolution. Now, that to me is like, boom, that stands out as this kind of ideology of collapse and not just the accelerationist ideology of collapse, but also this specific idea that you need to go out. in genocide people, specifically racial minorities and, you know, other other groups that they target in order to facilitate this like ethnic cleansing or this, you know, just mass genocide. So that's what I've been seeing come out a lot, including from the recent mass shooter from earlier this week. She had all of those.
Starting point is 03:48:05 She checked those boxes. She was connected to some of these groups that I would consider to be, you know, 764, 098. and MQU influenced. Now when you say connected in her case, she was referencing other mass shooters that she saw as sort of saints, people to be emulated. It was cast if the, you know,
Starting point is 03:48:32 assuming that the manifesto, her rambling there, four or five pages of rambling was authentic. You seem to think that that is legitimately. Her writing, do you think that that's the main element of the influence is ideological or do you think she was like interacting with certain specific individuals? It was very interesting. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:48:56 However, I could definitely see either being the case. I could see her being, having been groomed by a bad actor and indoctrinated and provoked. I could also see, especially considering her involvement in what we call the TCC community, which is this mass shooter fan base community where they just like, They actually, you know, it's usually teens who are in a really bad spot. A lot of them are committing mass shootings of their own, planning mass shootings of their own. It's a really, really scary and serious little group of people online. And this is the first time that I've seen that group. These are the ones that are making Columbine music edits with music.
Starting point is 03:49:35 You know, so this is the first time that I've seen that kind of group overlap with what we've been talking about. and that's really concerning because, again, this is a group of people that these guys know they can infiltrate and push to violence. And so, of course, they're going to do that. This is expected. Now, as far as her influence goes, in the manifesto, she had said her inspiration came from a mass stabber in Turkey. This happened back in August, and it didn't really make waves in the U.S. because it happened in Turkey. But this kid was directly influenced by MQU. In fact, he had written a manifesto of his own that was basically a carbon copy of the haters' handbook that he had just kind of rewritten in Turkish.
Starting point is 03:50:15 And so her shouting that guy out as her inspiration means that, you know, if she wasn't directly groomed by somebody related to that group, that she was a copycat, which is even kind of more scary, right? To think that now that they've put these people out here to commit these attacks, now we've got other people looking up to those people as martyrs and trying to copycat them. and it becomes kind of like a virality thing, which is very concerning. And didn't erupt now in her supposed manifesto. She speaks of it as revolution. She speaks of humans of scum. It's a lot of the same terminology and linguistic usage. That wasn't their kind of martyred language, too?
Starting point is 03:50:56 I'm going from memory. I read it a few nights ago. But she speaks of like, why not just do this as some kind of, you know, action? Yeah. She called a martyr to something? She said, I don't know if she called a martyr. She definitely used the word scum, which stood out to me. She also said, like, you know, why would I commit suicide when I could do something to move evolution forward by killing these people who are scum and less than human?
Starting point is 03:51:20 And, you know, that's that idea of misanthropy and this idea that we need, you know, you need to go kill off. And, you know, it's not just, even though it is, there is a neo-Nazi component. I mean, it is based around like racial minorities and stuff as well. but it's also based around Judeo-Christian, you know, people who are Christian or Jewish, they don't want that they're Satanist, they're Satanic, like they want a satanic rule. So this is a really scary network of people
Starting point is 03:51:46 who are targeting pretty much anyone who's not an Aryan Satanist. Yeah, there was a back in, it's probably composed around maybe 2010 or 11. There was a large, it was a long eulogy that a supposed prominent, Australian Satanist wrote about what to expect in the next few years, particularly the next few decades. And I've always thought it was authentic precisely because of, if you've read a lot of that literature, you know, how these people think and how they speak. It does come off as somebody who was serious about their Satanism. And the full eulogy is about 20 pages, a lot of the versions that you find online are sort of redacted.
Starting point is 03:52:29 But the reason I bring it up is that it actually matches up to a lot of what you're talking about where you have this promise of a new aeon that's coming and they see the ritual actions that they engage in as literal ritual actions that are helping to bring about that new aid. Yeah. And they say the only people that should survive are the, really the, you know, serious, committed sateness of the future. Everyone else has to be cleansed.
Starting point is 03:52:57 And this is reportedly a very wealthy prominent. So it's not just like angry teenagers. I think the any of your teenagers I use, I do think there are actually prominent, wealthy people that believe this too. I'd really like to see that. If you could send that to me, I'd love to check that out because, you know, that sounds very much like the 09A praxis, which has to do with calling of everybody who doesn't follow the sinister practice. In other words, everyone who's not part of their cult is get genocided, right? If you're not a niner, you're gone in this fantasy land where they call an ice the Milky Way.
Starting point is 03:53:29 So, you know, so the, but what's crazy to me is the influence, you know, of 09A that has, in the Satanist, esoteric Satanism, that's leaked into the entire domestic terrorism landscape. Like even, you know, as, as you know, Rup now had referred to some mass shooters as saints. And that's the terminology that comes from this group called Terrorgram, which is a telegram, network of telegram channels. It's just like violent extremists, right? And they specifically canonize these mass shooters. And they make calendars and like, oh, you want your place on the calendar.
Starting point is 03:54:08 You have to go shoot. I mean, it's crazy. It's absolutely insane. But it's crazy to me to see how the satanic influence has permeated all of these spaces. You cannot go to a neo-Nazi or neo-fascist or extremist telegram channel anymore without finding these people who are pushing the satanic elements. It truly has just permeated every extremist corner of the internet. Yeah, that's a, I think Crowley did that too.
Starting point is 03:54:36 Crowley was one of the first to come up with a satanic calendar of saints where he basically went through history who he thought like the worst sinners were and like you get a place on the Crowley calendar if you're a great center. I know that the OTO has, I think, a saint calendar. I think the, and then the Gnostic Catholic Church has their list of saints. They were basically just kind of people that were counterestablishment or alchemists in the Middle Ages. But this is like the satanic version of that where you have, you know, it's a way to manipulate people to get recognition in a very narcissistic way. Kind of like how serial killers, you know, they want the recognition.
Starting point is 03:55:16 They're very much, you know, diluted narcissists. So they're playing on. But that's also their downfall. So, you know, luckily a lot of these guys, especially in the 764 network, are. obsessed with notoriety and fame. And I don't know if you've noticed, but man, it seems like every day now I'm reporting on a new arrest, some new news. They're falling like dominoes.
Starting point is 03:55:38 I think that it's just because I don't know what happened at the federal level. Maybe they just decided this is a PR nightmare and we need to start cleaning these guys up. But there's definitely been a lot of arrests recently of these guys. And I think like you said, their ego and their pride definitely leads to more attention that can lead to their arrest. Like the threats that they sit meet constantly, it's, you know, you're just bringing more attention to yourself.
Starting point is 03:56:05 So Rupp now had, at least in that picture that was going around, a KMFDM shirt, which was supposed to, I think, be a hat tip to Clybe, Boulder Harris who was wearing the KMFDM shirt. So I'm just wondering if there is any connection, if you've gone back into the older,
Starting point is 03:56:22 you know, Columbine, I mean, that's, that's a while back, but do you think any of those older era, early era school shooters, were they also influenced by any of these ideologies back then? So it's more like the Columbine guys set like a precedent, right? And so they're worshipped at a very much a higher regard than the other mass shooters that they glorify. And then all the aesthetics that they use are seen as like these aesthetics that are edgy and that cool, and like you want to give nods to your inspiration.
Starting point is 03:56:58 And so it's less ideology-based and more just like they're obsessed with the aesthetics. These people are like ultimate fans. Like it imagine them as like, you know, like, you know, fans of like a band, right? Like Taylor Swift fans. Just insane. Yes, but more evil. You know, yeah. And, you know, but they're adopting those aesthetics because that's what they, what they embrace.
Starting point is 03:57:22 They embrace that whole that scene of mass shooters. And so you see them doing that a lot. It's very common. The account is BX on Twitter. You can find her. I've got her shared on my Twitter if you want to follow me as well.
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