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Episode Date: December 26, 2024

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Tomorrow's news today. It is Wednesday, December 18th, 2024. I'm your host, Alex Jones. We're only 33 days out on the inauguration of President Trump, and the globalist deep state is in high gear from destabilize our planet. Stop Russian General Igor Kee Relove, the head of their chemical, biological, radiological, weapons, defense, and offensive programs, who has been extremely critical of the,

West Biological Weapon Program that's now been confirmed in Congress to have been going on inside of Ukraine illegally because it was illegal inside the United States. And so Obama fired it up during his first administration over there. And this Russian general came out two years ago with all the documents and exposed how the United States and other NATO countries were building all these high-level bioweapon labs over the past few decade plus in Russia. And then Congress asked Victoria Newland and others about it, and they had to admit it after the corporate media and the fact checkers had tried to deny it. And so he was one of the top targets of NATO through their proxy force to Ukrainians. And yesterday, as he walked in his apartment, a moped, a scooter was filled with plastic explosives and killed him and his aid. So this is another massive escalation of the war. The Russians say it's a huge escalation.

They'll be retaliating somehow. But that's what happens when you expose the globalist and their big bio-weapons programs. Here's a short clip of him with subtitles on Russian TV last year talking about these issues and more. This is a huge broadcast today with myself, Mike Adams, and some massive guests he's got, as well as Chase-Gazer and others. I'll be back with more big reports. But again, the war just continues to escalate with Pray for Peace and that we don't end up all dying in thermal nuclear war.

The growth and illness caused by 1840s. Typical infections has been noted in a number of countries right now. So can we say this is the result of some help from American biologists? He says, we can't say this so indiscriminately. We are public officials, after all. As for biological weapons, if we assess the damage caused by COVID, these are the subtitles I'm reading. Over the course of two years around the world,

the main pandemic lasted two years. It cannot even be compared with the damage from World War II. It is dozens of times greater. However, those who make the profits such as big pharma, she says, do you mean all the pharmaceutical companies? He says, yes, the profits of the pharma companies, which are mainly in the USA, are colossal. That's the way it is, he says.

So the question is, the question is being asked, we provide documents. I'm reading the transcription here. The reaction of the USA that we are talking about is typical. There has not been a single refutation of the documents we presented. He says, this is Korylov. We sent more than 2,000 pages of these documents to the United Nations. What sort of reply did you receive, she asks. We usually get two replies, a standard one from the U.S.

USA. All, quote, all that is done is in the interest of the national security of the USA, end quote, and you must trust us. Trust them blindly, she asked. He says, yes, trust them blindly. They have a policy of global biological control. They understood that this works and that by creating an artificial crisis, or artificial crises, plural, which are biological, in nature. They can rule the world. There's nothing they do for free. Even when they provide supplies to certain states free of charge, they are not as free of charge as they say. All right,

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I'm Mike Adams filling in for the first two hours today. We've got an incredible show lined up for you. It's going to be incredibly just packed with information and breaking news. And let me just give you a heads up of some of the guests we have joining us. At the bottom of this hour, we have Jeffrey Prather joining us for analysis of the drone situation. And what he says may be a continuity of government. operations shaping up. There's a lot of interpretation of that.

If I get a chance, I'll also bring you information about the potential for missing so-called suitcase nukes. Is that a real thing? Would they even work today, you know, decades later because of the decay of the tritium in them? Would they even function? We're going to cover that if we get a chance. At the bottom of, well, the second half of this hour, we're also going to be joined by

Jason Fick, who is. our expert consultant on the lawsuit that my company filed against the censorship industrial complex earlier this year. Now this week, Ty and Charlene Bollinger from The Truth About Cancer, they have also filed an expanded lawsuit against the censorship industrial complex, which is actually self-destructing at this very minute. So we'll have a segment from Jason Fick with some interpretation about that. and the State Department's Global Engagement Center, the GEC, now apparently tearing itself down. Then at the top of the second hour, we're going to be joined by Bitcoin Jesus, Roger Veer, from Spain, who may not actually be able to speak. He's with Tracy Thurman, who I interviewed separately to introduce us to the full story of why the United States government is attempting to prosecute Roger Veer,

because he opposes CBDCs and he promotes and supports decentralization technologies through cryptocurrency and many other means. So that's a big deal. Again, he's known as Bitcoin Jesus. He is the co-author of the book, Hijacking Bitcoin. And that's going to be a bombshell interview coming up. And then at the bottom of the second hour, we're going to be joined by Aaron Day, who is also a crypto and privacy crypto advocate with a talk. about central bank digital currencies how we can reclaim our liberty and privacy in this time when it's clear that the powers that be are trying to completely enslave us and put us under an obedience control grid now with that said part of the methods that the deep state is using to do that includes trying to whip up war with russia and this brings us to the assassination of eager karylov who was just killed with a detonation

Alex just had the special report there. He was just killed by apparently a Ukrainian hired assassin who put explosives into a scooter and then manually detonated it as General Korylov was leaving his apartment. Now, General Igor Koryov is a specialist in biological weapons, and it appears that he was the top person who was attempting to blow the whistle on the West's use of bio-weapons. laboratories in Ukraine. Now, think about the implications of this. Number one, the West is absolutely trying to escalate war with Russia. Even though the U.S. State Department has declined any involvement, they've said this wasn't their doing.

It's generally believed, I would say by most of us in the independent media, that the State Department is running Ukraine. And the State Department, through Jake Sullivan and, of course, Blinken and others, we believe are running most of the Ukrainian operations, certainly providing the funding to Ukraine. And apparently this attempted, well, this assassin was paid reportedly $100,000 in order to carry out this assassination of Korylov. And that assassination succeeded, which means that they were able to cover up. Now, whatever Korylov was about to expose or through the documentation that Russia has that they

were going to present to international bodies such as the United Nations describing America's involvement in illegal bio-weapons research and manufacture and testing on human populations. Now, if you think about it here at InfoWars, Alex has had numerous guests on who specifically talk about the violations of bio-weapons research that the United States has engaged in. So this is a very big deal. And personally, I also believe that one of the reasons why the West is so desperate to win this conflict between Ukraine and Russia is to continue to cover up the bioweapons laboratories operations. Think about also the fact that Joe Biden is looking into reportedly a pardon of Fauci and possibly others, possibly even Collins, former head of NIH, who we believe Fauci and Collins and many others, were involved in the cover-up of the SARS-CoB to gain-of-function operations,

sending that intellectual property and specimens to the Wuhan labs with funding in order to add gain of function to that, and then to transform that into biological weapons that were inserted into the vaccines, to kill Americans, which they did, according to experts like Ed Dowd and others who have been guests on the show, those estimates of, The number of Americans killed now range from 1.2 million to 1.5 million. That's Americans only. Globally, that number is in the tens of millions.

Those are very, very credible numbers based on increases in death rates, reduction in longevity, and death records as they're happening. So, think about how all of this fits together. We've got biological weapons development happening illegally in the bio-weapons labs in Ukraine, funded by the West since 2014. when the color revolution coup run in part by Victoria Newland was taking place in Ukraine and also, of course, continuing to pose an increasing threat to Russia by placing more aggressive medium-range missiles, nuclear-capable Western missiles, moving those towards Ukraine into Ukraine, the U.S. taking itself out of the weapons bans, the treaties, the medium-range missile treaties,

in particular, those have been rejected by the United States, even during the Trump administration. So then Russia feeling more threatened, launching the special military operation in 2022, and then beginning to seize the Dombas region geography in

which those bio-weapons labs existed. So now the fear from NATO and the West and the fear from the Biden administration is that Russia may have its hands, on the damning smoking gun evidence of the bio-weapons development by the West that violated international treaties, that violated the basic laws of humanity,

and essentially proving that the United States of America engaged in bioweapons crimes against humanity. So I know I just said a lot right there, but I'm trying to pull all this together. If you wonder why Igor Korylov was just assassinated, that's probably why. He probably had smoking gun evidence that was damning to the West involving the bio-weapons labs in Ukraine that the West has been trying to cover up this entire time. So that's my analysis. You are free to agree or disagree with that, but that's what I believe is coming to the surface here right now. Now, when we have Jeffrey Prather on at the bottom of the hour, I'm going to ask for his analysis of this as well. Actually, we may go to him sooner than that because he's standing by.

We'll go to him in just a minute for his analysis of that. Let me mention the drone situation, a couple of really important stories that I have to bring to your attention from years past. We have from 2021, we have a story out of the war zone here that everybody seems to have forgotten about. Here it is, the war zone. TWZ.com. Tucson police helicopter chased, eerily similar craft five years before. recent mystery drone incident. Now, over the Davis-Montan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona, in 2021, there were mysterious

drones that were intercepted or attempted to be intercepted by Tucson police with a helicopter. In addition, the Davis-Montan Air Force Base Air Traffic Control was alerted to this incident. They tried to chase this drone, and they were unable to. This drone out lifted, outmaneuvered the police helicopters. That was 2021. And this article from TWZ.com is showing that there was a similar incident five years earlier. So now from today in 2024 with what's happening in New Jersey, New York, back to eight years ago, we now have at least an eight year span of these mysterious drone craft.

And I do want to say, I believe that what's in the skies over New Jersey is not just one type of drone. My best guess right now is that there are these mysterious drones that were appearing in Tucson years ago, and then there are the U.S. military drones trying to intercept those drones. So there are warring drones in the skies over New Jersey, as best I can tell, based on current information. But here's the thing. There are numerous FAA reports out of F-35 pilots who flew in training grounds, restricted areas of training in Arizona. They filed reports. This was all covered by the war zone where they were documenting drones traveling at .75 mock.

Okay. So we're talking 560 miles per hour roughly drones. 560 miles per hour drones that can attain an altitude of 39,000 feet and that we're apparently out maneuvering the F-35s. So this is all public record stuff here, folks. This is all filed with the FAA, numerous reports. Again, TWZ.com, which is a reputable publisher of military technology news. They have covered this in great detail over these years going. all the way back even five years before 2021.

And then finally a couple of headlines, and then we'll go to Jeffrey Prather here in just a second. This now news story, Mysterious drones swarmed Langley Air Force Base for weeks. That is something that was reported earlier this year, but the Langley Air Force Base in Chesapeake Bay, the war zone has been investigating those incidents. The Air Force has confirmed that they did indeed occur,

the drone overflights and provided details on time frame and diversity of drones involved. And then another story, startling image of mystery drone over U.S. Airbase in the U.K., now revealed as bombshell report claims that the FBI, and this is a dailymail.com report, the FBI is confirming this, a NASA and FBI report on previous airbase incursions and an account from a senior officer briefed on the incidents. This is all covered in the U.K. Daily Mail report. I've got it. Yeah, there's the headline right there.

Now, with all of that said, time is short today. Jeffrey Prather was kind enough to join us for a quick update. Mr. Prather, sir, welcome to the show today. Thank you for joining us. What is your analysis of what's happening with these drones? Well, thanks for having me. I agree with everything you're saying. I've got a couple things to add.

Of course, I was in Tucson for a long time, very familiar with Davis-Mondon, but my tactical training company at Warrior School used to do Raytheon's security work. And so I still had a clearance back then. So I had access to Raytheon's special tech shop, which was called the bike shop, where they outkent all kinds of great ways to save soldiers, really covert things. And I sent you a clip of the CIA Insecticopter, which is a little dark. dragonfly. Back in the days when I was still with a clearance where I could walk into CIA I had a blue badge. If you were doing low profile stuff, you'd use something like the dragonfly. So these drones are not that at all. Clearly not that. But the drone being chased by Tucson PD, who I did a lot of work with, also I would assess almost 100% came out of Raytheon's

bike shop. And what you're seeing is the intelligence community. testing new techniques and methods and proprietary technology on the military. Remember, the first drones came out of an Israeli citizen, probably sponsored by Mossad, who created the predator, went to CIA. Eventually, the predator was armed, and the predator is just now retiring, but it's been the workhorse of the CIA and then the SOCOM, Special Operations Command, for a long time. Wait a minute, Jeffrey, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I want to clarify, are you saying that you believe that the initial wave of these drones and the drones that have been hovering over military assets in Tucson and New Jersey and other places?

You believe these are military industrial complex corporation drones made by U.S. companies, but somehow those drones are not necessarily known by all of the levels of the military people and government people in New Jersey and other states? I would assess 100% certainty that the military may not know about them, but the intelligence community, the CIA, the NSA, the NRO know about them for sure and that they're running the test on those. For example, the New Jersey drones, Fort Dix, McGuire Joint Base has an aerotechnology defense cooperation agreement since 2020 to detect and follow drones. So I'm pretty sure that they're coming off of there. And these are test runs. Okay, okay. Well, hold on just a second. But to clarify then, you do not believe at all that these are Chinese drones or as that one congressman sort of ridiculously said, I thought they were Iranian drones from an Iranian mothership that Iran purchased from China that was parked off the U.S. coast, which we all thought was a clown show.

But, well, that's, so again, that's part of the SIAP. So the intelligence agencies, if you just showed the insectocopter, the little dragonfly, if you want to detect radioactive material and there was a category, and they said there was a cat three container in New Jersey that was lost, which I don't buy. I think that's a cover story, just like the Wuhan Lab was a cover story for the Fortitra DARBarda, Arda bio weapon. I think that's a cover story. You don't do it lit up. You don't do it with lights on. You don't obey FAA regulations.

You do it very low profile. A NEST Nuclear Emergency Response Team and Tier 1 DOE guys, they've been doing this a long time. They can do it real low profile to not alert anybody. Okay, Jeffrey. So what do you make then of the fact that these drones then, which apparently you're describing as really advanced corporate-built, you know, exotic technology drones. Apparently they don't have a thermal signature is what we're hearing from lawmakers in New Jersey. And apparently they're also, they don't show up on radar. Otherwise, we would have known, even the Davis-Montan Air Force Base Air Traffic Control,

they would have known the origination vector of these and where they went off to. Nobody knows that. How is it that they can evade radar and have no thermal signature, apparently? Well, remember, we didn't see Stealth Hawks, Stealth Blackhawks, until the bin Laden raid. So that was probably revealed by the intelligence community, probably the CIA for J-Soc, Joint Special Operations Command for that. But they keep these things under wrap. If you remember the 1952 fake where there were UFOs over the Capitol Dome Building, that was the story reported by the guys operating the radar equipment, but there were no photographs taken. That photograph and that video has been proved to fake.

They took the lamps from below the Capitol, reversed them, and put them exactly where those images are and then moved them across. They just have better tech now. But part of this is all a sci-op. And the first part of the sci-op is so that you're looking up and thinking about drones, drones, drones, so you're not thinking about the last four years where our government has been trafficking children, trafficking women, trafficking arms and terrorists into the country and kidnapping and is still doing that. that there are military flights now flying in where the border has receded a bit, where military flights are still flying in likely known terrorists for more. So that's the first part of it is it's a SIA,

because if you want to do it collect intelligence, you do it low profile. So because it's not low profile, it's an intelligence, it's a information influence operations. But what is the end goal? I'm sorry to keep interrupting you, but our time is really short. what's the end goal of this particular Saup? You mentioned a distraction strategy. I get that.

But that doesn't seem to be enough of a motivation for something this big to happen where you have a weapons corporation that has just decided to do whatever the heck it wants over the skies of American cities with the population be damned and the lawmakers be damned. Like nobody was read in on this apparently at the local level, right? So they must have a bigger end goal. What is that? Well, the corporations are doing this at the behest of the CIA, the intelligence community, the deep state, make no mistake. And they're just classifying it at very high levels.

But the other end goal of this is to maybe bring in some kind of bombing pre-inoguration or maybe even after inauguration so that a continuity of government. And dark journalists talked about this on Alex Jones the other day. So a continuity of government can come in with Northcom. That is a very viable solution because they don't want Trump's DOJ to start coming after them because they've mass murdered millions with the bioweapon. They've trafficked children in the tens, maybe the hundreds of thousands. So they want to distract from that. If they can turn the DOJ and the DOD onto some kind of external threat where it's Iranians or Russians. And I think this is also why Kirolov was killed as well because Kirov was also their nuclear expert.

So now they can start to build the legend that there were loose nukes or sadams. So small atomic demolition munitions were as a special forces mission that they were actually jumpable. People special forces, green berets, hallowed, high altitude low opened, test nukes for dip, die in place missions behind enemy lines. they try to get away and everything, but those things exist. So they may try and do that with drones or simulate that pre-inaguration or even after inauguration. So all of a sudden, there's the rally around the flag phenomena, and they're not focusing on the evil pedophiles and pushers and pimps of the Pito Joe and Joe's Pitos, but they're suddenly focusing on Iran or Russia if they can do that. So by killing Kirov, they say, well, maybe the Russians,

CBRN, chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear is not under control. It got loose. It got over here and some drones because these are likely Ukrainian drones because the State Department runs Ukraine. That means the CIA runs Ukraine. Ukrainians have been known for two things,

sniping. They claim a two-mile sniper hit on a Russian soldier and drones. And Trump even intimated this the other day when he said, I don't think I'll stay overnight in bed, When he was saying there was maybe they're going to hit me with a drone. But Jeffrey, but you're saying these so-called suitcase nukes do exist.

And perhaps one or more is unaccounted for across the United States. It seems to me like one of the most effective ways for the deep state to really distract people and cause panic and activate COG plans would be to actually detonate one of these. And I look them up. Apparently they're around one kilotone. equivalent of TNT. One kiloton, I did the research, Jeffrey, that would blow a crater that is about up to 100 feet deep and 200 feet wide.

It's only a fraction of the size of Hiroshima, let's say. It's small compared to modern ICBMs, but it's not inconsequential to have a one kiloton explosion in the middle of a city. Do you think they're desperate enough to try something like that? I do. I was thinking it would be in the U.S. Embassy in Kiev, but it could be done here, or it could just be simulated.

It wouldn't even have to be a nuke. Remember the Oklahoma bombing, which Ted Gunderson, the FBI expert, said the FBI was running. I apologize. We have to go to break. Stay with us, Jeffrey. We'll be right back after this break to wrap it up with you. Stay with us. This is Mike Adams here on the Alex Jones show.

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We are finishing up with Jeffrey Prather here, a former DIA and former DEA whistleblower. Now working for the people has been for several years at his website, Jeffrey Prather.com. He's got outstanding analysis, and I think he shared some of that with us here today. Mr. Prather, just kind of wrapping this up, how would you put an end cap on the SIOP that you were just alluding to? What can we expect, in your view, between now and inauguration day based on the drone activity we've seen so far? We can expect a bombing or a simulation of bombings, either at our embassy in Kiev or across the country.

to activate continuity of government via Northcom or to distract even NORJ, an incoming DOJ from the crimes and sins of this administration. And I just sent you a picture of an old green light program, Green Beret, Haloing, Asatam. These drones, which are definitely deep state drones are SUV. So if a green beret and halo one, an SUV-sized drone can definitely move one of those around. It doesn't even have to be for real because, again, it's all a siop.

Just like COVID was a sciop, it was COVID was the flu. The real thing was the siop that shut everything down. And so that's what they're trying to do with that in my estimation. All right. I think your analysis is spot on. I appreciate you, Jeffrey. And let me mention your website again, Jeffreyprayther.com, and it's spelled J-E-F-F-R-E-Y. don't forget the E in Jeffrey.

So thank you, Mr. Prather. Thank you for all the service that you've offered to our Constitutional Republic. And I look forward to speaking with you again. Be safe. Thanks for having me back, Mike. All right. Thank you. I'd like to ask our producers also, queue up, if you would, that video,

the public service announcement of New York City that they put out two years ago, it was a 92nd PSA about the nuclear, if there was a nuclear detonation, in New York City what you are supposed to do. We're going to play that after this special report right now that Alex has just sent us about Elon Musk. So let's go to that special report and then we'll be back with the New York City public service announcement of what you're supposed to do if a nuke goes off in New York City. The deep state declared war on Elon Musk and now he's declared war on them.

Something astonishing came out in the last. 24 hours. But if you've been under attack by this system, it's not astonishing. It's something that I've been viciously attacked by in the last eight plus years at a level unprecedented except for President Trump and now Elon Musk. And that is the entire military industrial complex, disinformation complex CIA system, Operation Mockingbird 2.0, that spends billions of dollars a year targeting individuals that are populist, that are pro-human, that are anti-globalists. And when I got designated as a Russian agent with no evidence eight-plus years ago,

even at congressional hearings just saying it, and I wasn't invited, I couldn't defend myself. They then triggered the foreign disinformation, countering foreign disinformation propaganda act against myself and Trump and others, and several billion dollars we know of was spent targeting us through PR firms through major publications like Reuters, AP, and others. Well, now it's come out that an astounding, that is astounding the number, 300 million alone. This is now in congressional reports because Trump's coming into office. The documents are now coming out.

Targeting Elon Musk for total destruction, attacking all of his companies, lying about him, just making up completely fake stories. So this is a big, big deal, ladies and gentlemen. It's criminal. It's criminal racketeering. and it's what was done to me with all the disinformation pieces that you've seen and countless others to a smaller level. But when you see somebody being attacked by this system,

you know they're over the target, you know they're the good guys. We'll be covering this more on the day, but this is a big issue. Elon Musk has now discovered that the deep state, the U.S. intelligence agencies, the Biden administration, spent $300 million in one ad buy we know of planning fake stories about Elon Musk, his family, his companies, and more. This is criminal racketeering, and Musk has come out and said, look, deep state's coming after me with their paid shills. I don't start fights, but I finish him.

So they've declared war on him. He has accepted the challenge. They need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This is illegal to engage in domestic propaganda and target U.S. citizens between government corporations. It is classic mafia racketeering, and this just shows how threatened the system is by Elon Musk, myself, and Donald Trump. if you're not under attack by the globalist you are not over the target

so things are going to get very very interesting very very quick and the system is very scared because they thought they were invincible and they've committed so many crimes that make your head spin look what we already know look what we've already experienced imagine what we don't know once Trump gets in there and puts Kasper Tell in

as the FBI director Tulsi Gabbard in as the head director of national intelligence and so much more RFK Jr over HHS. I mean, this is a real revolution against tyranny. This is so exciting. There's a lot of negative stuff going on in the world.

But I don't bring up the corruption because I want to demoralize people. It's the opposite. I believe in humanity. And I believe when humanity knows the truth, humanity will rally against tyranny and freedom will prevail, which you see happening around the world right now.

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And when this came out, I remember all of us, including Alex, we were going, what? Why are they putting this out? But let's just play about a minute of that right now to get a flavor of what New York city was telling its own people two years ago. Check this out. So there's been a nuclear attack. Don't ask me how or why. Just know that the big one has hit. Okay. So what do we do? There are three important steps that I want you to remember. Step one, get inside fast. You, your friends, your family, get inside. And no, staying in the car is not an option. You need to get into a building and move away from the windows.

Step two. Stay inside. Shut all doors and windows. Have a basement? Head there. If you don't have one, get as far into the middle of the building as possible. If you were outside after the blast, get

clean immediately. Remove and bag all outer clothing to keep radioactive dust or ash away from your body. Step three. Stay tuned. Follow media for more information. I'm going to cut it off right there because we mocked this PSA when it came out because it's telling you if there's been a nuclear detonation in New York City and you were outside when it happened, you're supposed to go inside, take off all your clothes and take a shower, as if somehow the showers still work just fine. And then wait for instructions from government. Right, because, oh, they want what's best for you.

you. Uh-huh. Yeah, come on. But maybe now it's all becoming clear because, as Jeffrey Pather just told us, maybe, perhaps. I mean, we pray not, but possibly there is some kind of a deep state detonation or a simulation of a detonation coming. Again, we pray that that does not occur. We pray for the safety of the American people. We pray for peace. And yet we know there are nefarious forces that are allied against us that are trying to escalate into war. And And they're also at war with the American people. That's very clear. Now, we're going to shift gears, and we're going to go to our next guest here, Jason Fick.

Now, that war against the American people has involved a tremendous amount of censorship. There is a censorship industrial complex that has been constructed, beginning during the Trump administration, not by Trump himself, but by the enemies of Trump. The State Department, in particular, the DOD and other entities, big tech and overseas NGOs that all, colluded to carry out de-platforming and the silencing of people like myself, like Alex Jones and others in independent media. And now, this week,

Ty and Charlene Bollinger, you know from the truth about cancer, they have also filed a major lawsuit against the censorship industrial complex. And here, as the expert consultant, the expert on this entire issue is Jason Fick. Welcome, Jason.

It's honor to have you on the show today. Thank you for having me, Mike. Well, thank you for joining me, and time is tight today because there's so much breaking news, but please break it down for us. Talk about the dismantling of the censorship industrial complex and the lawsuit filed by the truth about cancer. What do we need to know? Well, there's three elements that we're working on in this dismantling of the censorship industrial complex. The first was Section 230 issues, which is at the heart of the, what would you call it, the past, power that the government had over big tech in order to effectuate the censorship issue.

That, of course, prior to, you know, Trump's first term, that's when you saw a lot of this, right? In your case, against the censorship industrial complex. Now, we took that very far, and we uncovered a lot of it in the initial stages. However, obviously, since that point, the Taya and Charlene Bollinger decided that they were going to take action against the censorship industry. complex and I and I kind of look at them like your case is the first half of it and their case really is relevant to the second half of it now what I mean by that is is that when you were censored it was predominantly during the period you know when they were trying to get Donald Trump out of office right this was the 2020 up to the 2020 election after the 2020 election they went hardcore on the COVID misinformation realm now

at its core, you can find the Department of State. You know, that's really the lead to this. And the reason for that was because of the formation of something called the Global Engagement Center. That element of government is what actually essentially evolved from foreign mis and disinformation to targeting domestic mis and disinformation. And the problem there was that it was not mis and disinformation. It is exactly like the situations with Alex Jones and with any notable figures like yourselves, the Bollinger's, when they just, you know, put out dissenting information, the government went after them. Now, what we're going to say, Jason, is that we were putting out missing information.

This is information missing from the corporate media. They were covering it up and hiding it. And it's the job of independent media to ask the questions that the corporate media, which has run. influenced by the State Department or Pfizer or whoever, they refuse to cover it. So I just want to clarify that, but go ahead. Yeah, that's a good way to describe it, is missing information. Effectively, you guys, as citizen journalists and across the board, everybody that puts out information is filling in the gaps in order to give people informed consent.

That's the whole point, especially when it comes to health-related issues. I don't want the government making decisions for me that they think are the best for me. I want to hear from everybody so that I can make my own logical decision about my own health concerns. Absolutely. Obviously, with you being a health ranger, does that not make the most sense to hear more information to make your own decisions? Well, it's all about decentralization of knowledge. This is a really critical issue right now. And it actually, let me bring up this headline, too.

truth social eyes a crypto-powered fintech, you know, like a decentralized crypto solution, to guard against debanking. So if you think about it, Jason, the independent media represents decentralization of knowledge, just as cryptocurrency represents decentralization of finance, just as banks, you know, banks were debanking people because of their viewpoints, because they were tied to Trump. and content platforms and social media platforms were deplatforming people because of their content or their viewpoints. So it's really the same issue across the board. So what you are doing, Jason, by fighting against the censorship industrial complex, you are really advocating for decentralization of knowledge, which is exactly what humanity needs to move forward.

It's the primary concern is that if we can't decentralize knowledge, then the government controlled speech, well, we will lose. everything else with with because there is no dissent anymore and that really is at the heart of you know even my case um it was decentralized in the in terms of financial your case was decentralized in terms of health and uh information and so forth and again we had the the same situation with the bologner's case that was just wild and i can say that you know this has been a journey for me um you know over the i've had almost seven years deep in this specific niche type of law, even though I'm not bar licensed, but I don't need to be to understand the law and to understand the manipulation of information here.

Yeah, but Jason, I'm sorry to interrupt, but the point is I want you to speak to the fact that the GEC is now shutting itself down. Yeah. I mean, talk about the dismantling of the censorship industrial complex because they're in a freaking panic right now in the next four weeks. Before Trump gets sworn in, you know, let's pray that we make it to that day. What is happening with the censorship industrial complex? Because they're trying to like hide all the evidence, it seems, of what they did. So here's the thing. Even in these lawsuits where we're going after them to get information about what they did, right?

Discovery and so forth. For example, the GEC has a sunset clause. So they're not planning on reupping it. So the global engagement center is going to shut down. That does not mean it is going away. The pervasive entwignment that the government is engaged in is so widespread and it is not going anywhere. Everybody thinks that, you know, well, I wouldn't say everybody thinks this, but a lot of people believe that just because Donald Trump is coming into office that he'll be able to stop all of it. He can't.

It's actually a fight for all of us to make at every turn because the corruption, like to explain what the censorship industrial complex is, is it's an amount. Alamous mess. It's everywhere. It's entwined in everything that we do. So all they do is they just do next iterations of that. So in the case of GEC, it'll come out of something else. You look at the Stanford Internet Observatory, which, you know, is part of the election integrity partnership, which of course morphed, you know, next iteration. It morphed into the Rurality Project. And now they're shutting that down, but it'll just morph into something else. The problem is that we have to stop the government at its core. Yes, let me bring in, I believe, yesterday in the House, what passed as part of the continuing resolution, I believe, included a provision to halt any government contracts with NewsGuard. Did you see that story? I actually have not seen that. We were in the final hours of filing with the Bollinger's complaint. Yeah, absolutely.

But I believe that that passed the House yesterday, which means that for the first time, our. legislators are becoming aware of the dangers of these so-called, you know, ratings or fact-checkers, which are not really fact-checkers. They are lie pushers, in my view. They cover up the truth. They cover up the facts. But NewsGuard has specifically targeted conservative websites and truth-oriented websites to be defamed and slandered. This was a deliberate effort. It was not. unintentional the government set out to do this that was actually some of the revelations that we have you know in in the existing case for the Bollinger's

there are things that we found that are unbelievable I mean it is I mean it's I mean it's a huge huge lawsuit well for example the a lot of people believe that the reaction was to the CCDH report at you know where they were calling them the disinformation doesn't it was not reactive it turns out the government elicited it. So while we believe, I mean, it looked as that, you know, that overtly where we, we saw in the news that, you know, they were going after the disinformation doesn't, you know, purportedly because they had 65% of the, you know, vaccine misinformation. That was complete falsehood. In fact, the data that was actually used was actually elicited by the government. It was then given to

these companies, like the CCDH. And they requisitioned. it. They said, hey, we need this. And the timing is unbelievable because they had pre-planned the March 25th hearing, and the 23rd they had embargoed the report that had already been in the hands of the AGs, and then on the 24th, it goes live, and the 20th. So there is no doubt about it. The government was entwined with the NGOs, at least with CCDH and Facebook and Twitter, prior to any of this coming public. So we know for a fact that these companies are all working in collusion with the government. So therefore, and it's a maximum law that basically says that what they cannot do themselves, they cannot buy others. So the government can't indirectly go after free speech

either. Let me interject. What you said is absolutely true, but let me add this element to it. We know, and this gets into the importance of crypto and an honest distributed ledger system that no government can counterfeit. Think about this, Jason. During COVID, the United States government, printed fiat currency, gave a billion dollars to the CDC, which the CDC then handed out to social media influencers paying them with this counterfeit dollar currency to tell people to get vaccinated. And I believe they also paid church leaders. And so some of the church pastors that took donations from the government, they told their congregations go out and get vaccinated. And a lot of those people are dead now, by the way.

And so money printing combined with concentration and centralization of power over speech, combined with the censorship against those who are telling the truth, this results in mass death. You know how, Jason, they always say that, well, you're putting out information that could be dangerous. No, your censorship is violence. Your censorship is what caused people to die, a million plus people to die in this country. Isn't that true, Jason, that censorship is violence and fighting against censorship saves lives? Well, the point being is that if you put out more information, you are not censoring anybody, you're not withholding ideas, you are simply giving people more ideas.

The difference was that the government sought to actually restrain ideas. They did not want anybody that would dissent from their version of the vaccine hesitancy and so forth, and therefore that censorship, in fact, did kill people. More people are dead because of the government's actions here. And, I mean, it's pervasive. In fact, I think between your case and the Bolinger case, there is a much more important, you know, occurrence that needs to happen here.

The incoming DOJ, you know, which will be an honest DOJ, we believe, needs to look into. into this. There are criminal, you know, aspects here. There are, there are things that we have uncovered that warrant congressional investigations, um, the pervasive nature of how all of these different entities were interacting. It's, you know, the point is it's not a single bad guy. It's, it's, it's everywhere. It's, it's so, like, to give you an example, we always talk about going down the rabbit hole. Well, I mean, I'm sorry, we did. We went down the rabbit hole, but, but, but, but, But let me finish, Mike.

The point was we went down that rabbit hole and we never found the bottom. Like everywhere we eventually had to get to the point. It was so much information, so much, you know, pervasive censorship that we just had to stop and say, okay, here it is. Here's what we found. It happened. Now what? Well, and the Bollinger's remember that they're known for being the truth about cancer. So they are saving people's lives from the cancer industry, which I believe profits from death

and suffering and doesn't in the aggregate save any lives at all. Ty and Charlene Bollinger save lives. And that's why they were targeted with the most nefarious, aggressive tactics that you've uncovered, you and your team, in the lawsuit that's just been filed. Stay with us, Jason. We've got to take a break. We'll be back in two minutes to finish up with you. We're here on the Alex Jones Show.

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And my organization, Breitian, filed the lawsuit against the censorship industrial complex earlier this year. And the expert consultant that we hired to do that is our guest right now, Jason Fick, who also has been a consultant. with the Bollinger's, the Truth About Cancer Organization, that just filed a lawsuit this week. Jason, we only have a couple of minutes here, but please let our audience know today, what's the most important takeaway from here about the possibility of success? Can we get either one of these lawsuits to discovery, in your view, based on the, you know,

the changing dynamic of the political environment today? Well, Mike, it's going to come down to, the integrity of the courts. Unfortunately, we live in a world now where it depends on who you pick as a judge whether or not you're going to be able to be heard, but I can tell you that

the gravity of your case and the Bollinger case cannot be understated. It is the easily the most pervasive attack on free speech in history. Between the two, we can actually clean up all of the censorship industrial complex.

We just need allies at this point. And what I would suggest with that is that to go to either The Truth About Cancer.com, get the Bollinger complaint, which is brand new. Read it. It's 281 pages long. Wow. It is a surgical, you know, precision case. We tore it all apart. I mean, we went deep into this.

And, of course, your case. But now, both of them are available at social mediafreatom.org, which is our site under the document. tab and you can read them. But we explain how the entire industrial censorship complex was created. This conversation might get so much bigger and so much longer that I would invite, you know, Alex and myself and yourself and the Bollinger, we should have this longer discussion and talk about who's doing what here. Yeah, and we encourage, you know, Alex's organization or others that are watching.

Please take these lawsuits that we have filed, that the Bollinger's filed. with your help. Take those lawsuits. So much research has been done. Use that as a template and, you know, and apply it to you in your particular case. But we put this out in the public space on purpose because the smoking gun evidence is right there, isn't it, Jason? Yeah, we already laid it out for the government. We've laid it out for the DOJ. We've laid it out for everyone how it all can be fixed. Yes. We know how it can be fixed. We just don't get the invitation. to testify before Congress and so forth. We can do this.

We just need allies. That is our goal right now, is to get the necessary, powerful allies to fix the censorship problem because we will lose our country if we do not fix it. Well, here we have a story. Laura Logan just testified about censorship.

She said, quote, this is a blood sport for them talking about the censors. The Age of Information Warfare, and here we are at InfoWhorpe. wars actually, you know, winning the info war, thanks to people like Alex and all the great hosts here. Laura Logan nails it. And you're nailing it, Jason.

We're nailing it. We are demonstrating right now what the First Amendment was written for, which is so that people can speak their mind, their truth, their opinions, their analysis, and add that to the public discourse. And Jason, we only have about a minute left in this segment. Any final thoughts? And give out your website one more time, please. Well, I also wanted to commend Lara Logan.

She is actually, we're working back and forth together. I actually talked with her last night. Social MediaFreatom.org, our goal is purely to restore freedoms online. It is to stop this tyranny, and without it, we are not going to be able to stop it. So this is a must. This is a must-do. We must gut the censorship industrial complex. We must restore the freedoms, you know, speech online.

One of the ways that you can follow, as you can see, is to find me on Twitter. I do still use it. I'd love a conversation with Elon Musk about this situation because, of course, you know, even in the crossfires. But thank you, you know, either way. Okay. Social Media Freedom Foundation there. And Jason Fick, F-Y-K, Jason Fick, is your tag on X.

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And all of us here in this space, we believe in decentralization of knowledge, decentralization of media, and also decentralization of finance. And in fact, I just had a headline here about truth social. They want to use a crypto-powered fintech solution to guard against debanking, right?

Because why should we allow centrally controlled e-commerce solutions or banking and finance or lending services to be able to de-platform us because of our viewpoints. Well, one of the greatest champions in the whole realm of decentralization and advocating for peer-to-peer cryptocurrency usage and just teaching people, empowering people with this message that really is the empowerment of human civilization, in my view,

is none other than Roger Veer. Roger Veer, known as Bitcoin Jesus, although he's not necessarily a huge fan of that name, but it kind of stuck because he's been so giving in his knowledge and also in the early days of a lot of Bitcoin. Hope those people held on to it, you know. And he is, of course, facing extreme prosecution by the United States government because, I believe, because they want to silence him because he's such an advocate for decentralization. He is currently in Spain facing the risk of, well, an extradition order from the United States

and potentially facing over 100 years in prison in the United States if he is convicted. And he joins us with a censored tag over his mouth at the moment. And beside him, Tracy Thurman, Tracy and Roger, it's an honor to have you both on the show today. Thank you for joining us from Spain. Thank you, Mike. We're very pleased to be able to join you. We're both huge fans of this show, and it's an honor to tell Roger's story here on Info Wars. Well, thank you both for taking the time.

I know the time zones, you know, it's made it a little bit difficult. And I hope we can get Roger to say something here during this segment. But Tracy, let's start with you. Keep it in a summary format here because of just the compactness of today's broadcast here. But tell us the full story to the extent you can of what Roger Veer is facing and why they are trying to silence him. Sure. This story really goes back in a quarter century. That's how long the lawfare against Roger has been going on.

So 25 years ago, Roger ran for office as a young man in California, as a libertarian. And in a debate there, when he was speaking with the Republican and the Democratic candidates, he was talking about what happened in Waco, Texas. Because one of the things Rogers cares about most is human freedom and ending human suffering, especially the suffering of children. and he talked about how the ATF had murdered children in Waco, Texas. That's true. They did.

He called them jack-futed child-murdering thugs, which is what they are. It's what they did in Waco. But the ATF decided that day to take offense and to begin lawfare against Roger. And so they played the old Stalinesque trick of, you know, show me the man I'll find you the crime. And what they found was that Roger had sold fireworks on eBay.

Now, he was one of hundreds of people who had done this. He was buying them from Cabela's catalog and reselling them there as retail arbitrage. Nobody had a license to do this. Cabellas didn't have a license to do it, but they picked one man and one man only to punish for not having a license for selling these fireworks, and that was Roger. And so Roger ended up spending 10 months in federal prison because the ATF wanted him silence. And what year was this? What was that? What year did this take place?

It started in 1999. His prison sentence was 2002 to 2003. Okay. but they didn't send anybody else to prison for the same behavior. Not one person. In fact, and if you're wondering for a moment, like, are you sure this was lawfare? We know it was lawfare because in a meeting between the ATF, the prosecutor, and Roger's attorney, Roger's attorney was making the case.

Look, this is normally something where you would give the guy maybe a fine, or you just tell him to go get a license, right? Everybody else is what you're doing. And the ATF agent pounded his fist on the table and said, you didn't hear what he said about us. Right. So because they did not like his speech, they selectively persecuted him. Now, we're all familiar with that here at Infowars and myself as well.

We've all been targeted because of our speech. But clearly what you're describing now is long before the arrival of Bitcoin, right? Yes, no, this is long before the arrival of Bitcoin. You know, who else were the victims of lawfare going back that far other than perhaps Roger Revere and Alex Jones. This is something they have in common, is that they were both canaries in the coal mine of lawfare. Yes.

These two men. And so by the time Roger got out, it was very clear to him the U.S. government was not done with him. The U.S. government would probably never be done with him. And so he decided, tragically, that he had to leave the country in order to be safe. And so that's what he did. He left the U.S. And in the end, he had to give up his U.S. citizenship to get citizenship elsewhere because

of the threat he felt. the U.S. government. That may have sounded insane to other people a decade ago. I think today most of your listeners will be nodding their heads and saying, I understand that now. I've watched so many of my heroes go down, go to prison, be silenced, be debanked. And Roger was one of the first. Yeah, yeah, just to confirm that today, I mean, how many Americans are thinking, especially before the election, conservatives were thinking about, well, should I go to Panama, should I go to Chile, where should I go, Thailand, you know.

Now it's a lot of the Democrats, but they want to flee because they committed crimes against the American people, such as censorship and malicious prosecution, which I think is this case here, also malicious prosecution. And I do want to mention before you continue, Tracy, that I am personally advocating for President Trump to consider a pardon for Roger V. Veer because a pardon of Roger Veer would send a very powerful message to the pro-freedom, pro-America, pro-crypto community that Donald Trump, that you understand their plight, and you are not going to allow the Department of Justice of this government to be weaponized

against advocates of decentralized finance. So that's my view. I think I can say with certainty that Roger is very grateful for that as well. Well, please continue, Tracy. We're grateful for everything that he has done over the years, but please continue. Yeah, so he left this country, and then in 2011, he discovered Bitcoin. And if I know the story correctly, he was so intrigued by it, so excited by it, that he stayed up for days reading about it to the point of actually needing medical care due to being sleep deprived.

But what he saw in Bitcoin was the opportunity for a permissionless, free exchange between people. because if you've already been the target of the government, and again, at this point, many of your listeners have been, you know that the government has the ability to turn off your money. That's right. And as long as the government has the ability to turn off the money, they have the ability to control you. Yep. Yep. And central bank digital currencies would only exacerbate that manipulation and threat against all of us. This is a primary theme here at Info Wars, is alerting people to the dangers of CBDCs.

And so it seems to me that one of the reasons why the U.S. government, at least the pre-Trump government here, wants to prosecute Roger, is because this is just my opinion, but I believe that Roger's education and empowerment of people would tend to help people realize the dangers of CBDCs. And so, do you agree with this assessment, Tracy? I do. I do. I think that that is a huge piece of why he's being targeted. Anyone who is building the ecosystem of freedom that allows us to have, you know, to have our own food, to have our own medical care, to make all these choices. But above all, to make our own choices about our finances to be able to transact together, that is critical to absolutely every piece. And few people have done more to enable that than Roger has. And I do think that is a huge piece of why this last administration had it out for him. No, I understand. I'm sorry to interrupt, but there's a petition that people can say.

sign, I believe. Is it free rogernow.org? Is that it? Free rogernow.org. We encourage everybody, please go there. Please sign it. It will take literally less than 15 seconds of your time. We don't ask you to put in all your personal information. But we need to be able to show President Trump and his incoming administration. There is support for this. There is support for Roger. And I can tell you, if you have ever put your money into any cryptocurrency, if you have ever benefited from the anti-lockdown movement, the medical freedom movement, from any of these things, even the anti-war movement,

you've benefited from Roger's work. You just don't know about it. Yeah, true. And so please give 15 seconds of your time to pay back to the man who has done so much for all of us. Okay, and that petition, I mean, that's not a commercial effort. Like people who sign that, they're not going to get spammed with, hey, buy this meme coin or anything like that. It's not that at all.

It's just... Nope. You might get the occasional email saying, you know, hey, here's something new in our campaign. That would be it. We would never dream of doing anything like that with this list. This is solely for people who want to support Roger being free again and being able to, being able to return to the U.S. Like people think, why did he give up his citizenship?

He gave up his citizenship because he was too afraid to be here anymore and no longer felt safe. And frankly, the conduct of our government since then has done nothing to dissuade him of that. He would love nothing more than to be a free man again, to be able to return to the U.S. as a freeman welcomed back by us as Americans. Can be able to see the people he loves again? He's been kept away from them from nearly a decade. It's horrible. Well, Roger's the kind of person who's a great innovator,

the kind of person that makes this country great. And if you want to make America great again, you need people like Roger here. Now, can this, it's a little weird, actually, having Roger sitting there unable to speak. Roger, can you give me a thumbs up that, that like if you come to the U.S., will you come here to the information?

War Studios and join us for an interview. Can you at least can can can you get okay we got a double thumbs up on that. All right. So thank you. Thank you for all you're doing, Roger. I know the reason you're not speaking I would imagine is on attorney's advice because of the persecution, you know, the the case that you're facing and we understand that. I just want you to know that all of us in America are rooting for you and Tracy.

You have been an incredible advocate. You flew to my studio. and did an interview with me a couple of weeks ago. Thank you for doing that. You're obviously putting a lot of air miles in on this. I just have to ask you, honestly, like, what is driving you to do this? This has taken your whole time and passion. It has.

My entire life is on hold to get this done. You're right, Mike. I've spent years away from my own family against my will. I have my family back now. Roger has a right to have his loved ones back in his life too. And in order to do that, he has to be able to return to America as a free man. And so, you know, when I first agreed to take on this case, I was ideologically aligned. I was very concerned about the legal precedent that's being set.

You know, they're attempting to destroy attorney-client privilege here. They're attempting to destroy reliance on counsel defense. Those are, you know, you can go look those up, but those are a really big deal for all Americans if those go down. So that's what I was initially motivated by. But I've worked with a lot of high net worth clients, and generally they're very difficult people, to be totally honest with you. And I didn't expect to get along with Roger as a human being. But he's a really wonderful person. He's a kind person.

He's compassionate. I've never seen him treat anyone with anything other than respect. And so I feel personally that he should have a right as a human being to return to his loved ones, his loved ones who are here in the United States. He should be able to return as an American to America and be reunited with that. And that's what motivates me about all the because I know the pain of being separated from your loved ones. Also, Attorney Roger Barnes has also chimed in on this. And I don't think we have that clip available. But guys, if you could find that clip, we would like to play.

I think it's short, maybe a minute. But Barnes is correct in pointing out the legal importance of this. Because as I understand it, Tracy, the, the federal government even raided the law offices of Rogers' attorney and confiscated private privileged communications. Attorney-client privilege has been thrown out the window. And that just speaks to the kind of lawfare that has been waged against Donald Trump, against Alex Jones, and so many of us in the pro-freedom, pro-liberty, pro-America space. Am I correct? Is my understanding correct on what they did?

Yes. No, they armed federal agents raided his attorney's office. And they timed it, by the way, to be done at the same time they were rating Rogers' office and his accountant's office. That way, Roger was essentially denied legal protection because he couldn't call his attorneys. They were a little busy at that moment. Right. And they interrogated his attorneys. They took reams of documents.

They had absolutely no right to. And it's a horrifying precedent if this is allowed to stand. Imagine any one of you who's ever dependent on an attorney that your attorney could be, forced to turn over data and be questioned about you, that you're accountant, that you're no longer able to depend on your accountant to do your taxes and be able to say, look, I turned over all the information to them. I asked them to do it right. They're qualified. You know, it's called a reliance on counsel defense, because without it,

we're all screwed. The tax code is essentially 70,000 pages. None of us can possibly memorize that. And so Roger hired some of the best attorneys in the world to help him understand that and to take care of it for and they're trying to use his case to take away that right for all of us. In the same way they used Alex Jones to try to take away the rights of many Americans. And many people like you and me, Mike, we stood up and we said, look, if you don't stand up for Alex Jones, they're coming next. Not everyone listens.

That's why. I stood up for Alex Jones. I stood with Alex Jones during this entire time. And Alex has always stood for others as well. And by the way, Alex was absolutely thrilled when he learned that Roger was going to be joining us today. Even though you're not able to speak here right now, Roger, the fact that you are there, you gave us a thumbs up. Tracy, you're speaking for him. It's all understandable.

Alex is thrilled that you're on the show. Now, let's go to this clip from Robert Barnes speaking about this particular case. Go ahead and play that. What's the latest on the guy who they're trying to extradite from Spain? Oh, yeah. So there's two big crypt cases. So one is crypto.com is brought suit against the Buy Administration. and the SEC.

And the other is the continued escalation of the extradition efforts against Roger Veer, colloquially known as Bitcoin Jesus. Leave it to the Biden administration to try to figure out a way to crucify Bitcoin Jesus. So for those that don't know who Roger Veer is, Roger Veer is one of the founders of the Bitcoin movement. It sort of was a Bitcoin purist. It was someone who believed in Bitcoin, not for itself enrichment prospects, but rather for its collective empowerment and individual freedom. components that if you really understood what Bitcoin was at core, there was the aspect I'm talking about monetizing and incentivizing people to explore alternative ideas about the world that would let them go down Alice in Wonderland's rabbit hole that allowed them to take the matrix red pill

and see past the simulation. But the broader aspect of it was its capacity to functionally revolutionize the world and remove financial control from central banks and central planner. Indeed, any central intermediary at all, because it's based on democratizing, decentralizing currency, and individually empowering through open source blockchain technology, the means of exchange. Now, Robert Barnes really gets away the ability of the bank. We're going to end in that, but Robert Barnes nails it. He's a super smart guy. He really understands this.

And I want to actually get into that with you a little bit, Tracy. Although, let me set the context that I believe most people, almost everybody in the Bitcoin community supports freedom for Roger Veer, even if they may not agree with his interpretation of Bitcoin's choices along the way. Now, Roger is co-author of a very popular book now called Hijacking Bitcoin, and what Robert Barnes was just speaking to there speaks to the fact that the original vision, the Satoshi VIII, vision of Bitcoin was that it would be held in self-custody by individuals. It would be decentralized. And the block size would be large enough to handle enough volume to make transactions very low costs so that everyday people could use it in everyday trade, right? But unfortunately, some decisions were made in Bitcoin that limited the block size. And we have Aaron Day joining us coming up in a few minutes who also speaks to this.

And Roger Veer came down on the side of the original Satoshi vision of Bitcoin, which was decentralized peer-to-peer transactions and not having Bitcoin largely controlled by centralized, you know, ETFs and that kind of thing. Tracy, is that something? Do you want to speak to that at all? Sort of like, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely true that there are people in the cryptocurrency community that disagree with Roger on the block size wars.

But at this point, everyone needs to understand this is far beyond the block size wars. This is a precedent that will be used against everybody in the cryptocurrency space. And so there are many people in this space that may disagree with Roger on literally everything who are absolutely committed to making sure this man does not go to prison for the rest of his life

because they understand, it's like Donald Trump said, they're coming for the rest of you, I'm just in the way. That's right. They're coming for everybody who is early cryptos, They're coming for all the big crypto whales. Rogers just in the way. Take Roger down, set the precedent. They're coming for everyone else next.

So this goes far beyond that. And I love what I think what Giancarlo said, where he said, if I have to choose between, you know, I'm not going to use his exact words. It's basically if I have to choose between someone who's into alt coins and the government, I'll choose the guy, even though I disagree with him on everything else. 100%. And that's the everything we all need to take at this point. This is far beyond the block size words.

So we are asking, I'm asking, for Donald Trump to consider a pardon for Roger Veer and at the same time, Ross Ulbricht, right? Julian Assange, even consider Edward Snowden. You know, Edward Snowden warned us, and he told the truth. He blew the whistle on an illegal surveillance state, and he was punished for that, and nothing changed in America. And that, I'm sorry, Edward Snowden gave up his professional life, his personal life,

his family, his country in order to try to warn us about how our government was being weaponized against us. And it strikes me that Roger's plight is in some ways similar. Roger has had to give up his U.S. citizenship in order to try to be free from the selective targeted persecution by a malicious government that has weaponized the truth against the American people. But Tracy and Roger, times are changing dramatically. The defeat of Kamala, and the imminent defeat of elements of the deep state, this speaks very strongly to a new potential, bright future for America, a future that can experience great abundance based on decentralized finance

that Trump's people seem to understand. Your thoughts, Tracy? I agree. This is an incredibly exciting moment because November, the morning of November 6th was a very happy morning for many of us, and not because I'm a deeply political person. But because I woke up that morning knowing that Ross Ulbricht, Roger Veer, potentially Julian Assange, all had a chance again. They all have a chance again. And why?

They have a chance because so many of these people in this incoming administration, Trump especially, they understand what lawfare is. Trump, you understand lawfare. That's right. You've been the victor of yourself. Alex Jones has been the victim of it. Elon Musk has been a victim of it. All of them have been, and all of them should be able to look at Roger and see a brother in our. They should be able to see a man who has been going through the same thing they have at the hands of the same people who have been persecuting them, and a man who deserves the same freedom that they have today because Donald Trump won.

So this is an opportunity for Donald Trump to change the world by saving one of the individuals who has revolutionized finance. And also Trump has said he wants to make the U.S. at the haven for cryptocurrency. I can tell you there's other countries that are literally rolling out the red carpet for these guys. You fly in on a private jet. They roll out a red carpet for you. They take you directly to a government building where they make sure by the end of the day you have your golden visa. You have everything you need. Meanwhile, the U.S. is putting these men in shackles.

Yeah. If you are one of these billionaires, why on earth would you choose the U.S.? 100%. I'm sorry to cut you off. Almost out of time. Free roger.nau.org is the website. And I agree with you. If you want to make America the crypto capital of the world, you start by pardoning Roger Veer.

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He cannot speak at the moment. He's being persecuted. And, you know, I wonder why doesn't Trump consider just telling the DOJ to drop the charges? You know, I mean, a pardon is. thing, but why is he, why is Roger even being prosecuted? The charges make no sense. Their case is absurd. Any honest judge, I believe, would throw it out even so, but they're, they're dragging him through this process to try to make it as painful as possible. And that's exactly the wrong message for America, especially when Trump is coming in and wants to make America the

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Welcome Mr. Day to the program. It's an honor to have you on, sir. Thank you for having me. Good to see you again. It's good to see you, Aaron. I really want to thank you for joining us today. You've been a guest on my show, Decentralized TV, I think twice now. And you probably just saw our interview with Tracy with Roger sitting there. What's your reaction to the prosecution of Roger Veer?

I mean, my reaction is that it's very clearly politically motivated. I mean, I've been following it very closely. My primary issue is trying to warn people about the threats of CVDCs and to explore alternative currencies. And I think that Roger's being targeted specifically because he's probably the most effective advocate on the planet for using alternative currencies as a way to not get stuck with central bank digital currency tyranny. Now, Aaron, how critical is it for America's position as a crypto leader for, people like Roger to be embraced rather than prosecuted? Well, I mean, it's absolutely critical. I mean, cryptocurrencies are obviously here to stay, and fiat currencies all over the world are collapsing. And in fact, state-issued

currencies have a 0% success rate. Most government-backed currencies fail after only 27 years. And so we're now seeing this whole geopolitical battle between the United States and bricks and everything else. And so, cryptocurrencies really are the future and the way out. Okay. So give our audience a little bit of background of what brought you to this point and what it is you do exactly with your foundation. Sure. So, you know, I'm a serial entrepreneur and my second company was actually destroyed inadvertently by the federal government by Dodd-Frank, Obamacare, and Eric Holder. And I won't go into all the details on that, but that turned me into a full-time liberty activist. And so I

moved to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project. That's where I learned about cryptocurrency. I actually learned about Bitcoin from Roger at a Free State Project event in 2012. I spent a lot of time on political activism. My wife and I helped get candidates elected at the state level and try to go the political route and then kind of threw up my hands at that around 2018. and stopped using a bank account personally and started urging others to opt out of using fiat currency, then COVID hit. And all of a sudden I noticed that my friends were being targeted by the federal government.

Ian Freeman, who I learned about the Free State Project from, is now in federal prison for eight years for selling Bitcoin without filling out the appropriate paperwork, which was clearly a manufactured case. Jeremy Kaufman started a company called Library, which is a decentralized version of YouTube. He was targeted by the SEC, and they destroyed his business after five years. So I wanted to look at, well, what is the cause of this? Why is it specifically that people at the intersection of liberty and crypto are being targeted and destroyed by the federal government? And what I found was that, and particularly under Biden, in his executive order, 14067, it is currently,

government policy for the United States to both explore a central bank digital currency, as well as to take a whole of government approach to regulating decentralized cryptocurrency. And that's exactly what they've been doing. It's the SEC, the Treasury, the FBI, the IRS. Every branch of the federal government has been mobilized to go after people in the crypto space. And so this is why people like Roger and others have been targeted. and many others have been thrown in prison. As Mark Andresen eloquently explained on Joe Rogan a week or so ago,

people are being debanked all over the place with a particular emphasis on anybody in the cryptocurrency space. And so this crackdown is real, but so is the emergence of CBDCs. We went from a situation where in 2020, there were 35 countries just researching CBDCs, and really only China was experimenting with it. Fast forward four years. Today, 134 countries representing 98% of the global GDP are exploring CBDCs, and over half of those are actually beyond the research phase. 11 countries have already rolled out of CBDC,

and there are more CBDC accounts globally than decentralized cryptocurrency accounts. And so the whole process of using the state and throwing people in prison and targeting Liberty crypto activists is to close it off competitions so that when they roll out the CBDC, people have no choice. Well, it's very clear, Aaron, and by the way, please look right at the camera as you're speaking with us and give us your website for your foundation too, please. What is that? My website is daylightf freedom.org.

Okay, daylightf freedom.org. Let me ask your reaction to this news headline here. Following Kuwait, Vietnam, to debank people who do not get their back. biometrics scanned for a digital ID app. So, you know, there it is. Vietnam, communist country, and the communists love CBDCs, don't they? Well, the communists love CBDCs, but actually it's not limited to just communist countries. The United States is actually fairly advanced in the development of our own CBDC, which is

something that we've been working on since 2019. In fact, when I started researching this, I saw all this information about countries rapidly developing CBDCs, but when I explored how our monetary system works today, I realized we really already have effectively a CBDC. When you talk to people about what they're concerned about with central bank digital currencies, they're concerned about having their financial transactions monitored, they're concerned about being censored and debanked,

and they're concerned about money being programmable. All three of those things are true with our system today. 92% of our system is digital. There's only 8% cash. The way money is created is the federal government goes to the Federal Reserve and issues an IOU, and then the Federal Reserve creates the money out of thin air in a database. I mean, that is very much by definition a central bank digital currency. Yes.

Our system is already programmable. So anybody that has a health savings account or a flexible savings account, or a flexible spending account. This is essentially a relationship with a bank where you can only buy specific health-related goods and services from specific retailers at specific times. MasterCard actually did a pilot program with the United Nations from 2019 to 2022 where people's carbon would be tracked,

and if they used too much carbon, their credit card shut off. So this all uses the existing system. There is no major technology upgrade that needs to happen. So we already have these elements of the CVDC today, but it can get much worse. Well, let me ask you about the Trump administration and where this needs to go, because I think you and I probably have a very similar conclusion on this. Personally, I don't want to play the FOMO speculation game with Bitcoin or any coin. I want a relatively stable coin that doesn't have a lot of price risk,

but that is widely usable in everyday transactions. I want to be able to go to the grocery store and pay with a privacy coin. You know what I'm saying? I want to be able to go to a farmer's market and purchase with a privacy coin that the government doesn't even know about. Or maybe it's Bitcoin with a privacy layer or something. But I hear a lot of people, especially those who are kind of newbies and don't really understand the block size wars, they just want Bitcoin to go up and up and up in price forever, but it's centrally controlled. an ETF, you don't have self-custody.

Like, that's not what this is about, right? We need something usable. Do you agree with me on that point? Well, I agree with you on that point completely. And when I first heard Roger talk about Bitcoin in 2012, this was the original vision. And when I started using Bitcoin, that was the use case. I actually would use it in New Hampshire. There were many restaurants and retail stores that would actually accept Bitcoin directly.

And by 2017, major retailers like Microsoft and Overstock and Expedia were accepting Bitcoin directly. So this was the original vision. But without going into all the details about any block size war, clearly Bitcoin is morphed into digital gold. And so whether people like the idea that it's digital gold or not really is immaterial. We still need peer-to-peer digital cash. So if you want Bitcoin as digital gold, that's great. There are some issues with that. but we still need to have the ability to do day-to-day commerce outside of the control system of the federal government and outside of the control system of the central banks.

And privacy coins offer the opportunity to do just that. Well, and I'm thinking, I mean, even here at InfoWars, you know, the sponsor of the show today, the Alex Jones store.com. Now, if I were Alex Jones, I would be thinking, hey, I want that store to be able to accept payment in crypto, especially privacy crypto, because that does two things. for me as a merchant. Number one, then my e-commerce provider can't cut me off because of viewpoint discrimination. Secondly, nobody can surveil the list of customers or trace who is buying products from my store, right? Because if I'm Alex Jones, I want to also protect the privacy of the customers that are purchasing

from me. So this is something that's been needed, I think, for a very long time. And I got to say, I saw you put out something, a little hint on Twitter the other day that you're thinking about some kind of project. I don't know, a teaser. I see you have a logo on your screen there. Karma, I think, is how you pronounce it. I just want to say to the audience, I'm not endorsing this project at this point.

I don't really know anything about it, but you want to give us a little teaser of what you're working on? I think it's relevant. Sure. So, you know, my wife and I've been doing these four-hour workshops all over the country, and we've been showing people how to use alternative currencies, How to use cryptocurrency, gold and silver for day-to-day transactions. And one of the things that I've found talking to merchants is they are concerned about

cryptocurrency. They know the dollar's losing value. In fact, the dollars lost somewhere between 25 and 40 percent of its purchasing power just since 2020. So everybody knows this. Small businesses know this. The problem is cryptocurrency prices are too volatile. And, you know, merchants don't know how they're going to be able to spend those on a day-to-day

basis. And so one idea that I'm looking to roll out next year is the idea of a gold-backed privacy stable coin. So what that means is we're combining all of the elements that people love about gold in terms of, you know, it's stable price and uses money for 5,000 years, but with the best aspects of cryptocurrency. So the ability to have private transactions, the ability to have low transaction fees, and the ability for the merchant, or the consumer, for that matter, to be able to redeem these tokens for physical gold. So, you know, as the dollar was at one point until France came to Nixon and said, hey, we'd like to reduce these gold.

Yeah, we'd like to load up our ships. And our Treasury Secretary said, well, that's your problem. And then we abandoned the gold standard. The idea is, what if we had a gold-backed currency that was separate from government with vaults across the world in different countries where, people could actually redeem these tokens for physical gold. Well, I love the idea. I think the Federal Reserve will hate the idea, obviously,

because they want centralized control. But, you know, it's interesting to me that these currency wars. I mean, think about bricks, right? So bricks is rumored to be 40% backed by physical gold and the other 60% of basket of currencies of participating nations where they do have a distributed but permission to blockchain. so not everybody can just chime in with proof of work overrides, but it's still distributed among the countries

to do an international settlement token system called the unit, I believe, that is backed 40% by gold. So what you're saying here with your idea is actually kind of similar to what Bricks is talking about. Like how does China and Russia, if they trade with each other, how do they establish trust, given that historically China and Russia do not trust each other. And I think they establish trust through this consensus system backed by vaulted gold.

Does that sound right? I mean, that's one way to do it. Here's the problem that I have, and this is why I think that we need decentralized, a decentralized solution separate from state. It's not as though governments haven't had currencies that are backed by precious metals in the past. This has happened time and time again. Martin Armstrong has done a lot of analysis where he would actually collect coins and actually

show and document the debasement of the coins. By the end of the Roman Empire, the silver denarius only had 0.05% silver in it. And so the thing is, you know, bricks or whoever can say, is there really gold in the vault, first of all, which that seems to be an issue? Do we even have gold in Fort Knox currently? I mean, we seem to not be passing audits even to this day fully

with respect to the United States' own gold supply. But then it's also possible to issue, tokens that are disconnected from the gold supply itself. So in other words, we could just have digital IOUs backed by theoretical gold. And so this is the issue that I have. The issue that I have is in studying currency, the problem doesn't seem to be whether it's silver or gold or whether it's fiat currency, where it's just printed out of thin air backed by IOUs.

The common source of the problem with money is state issuance of the money. and the fact that the issuance of the money is tied to government spending. That literally has never worked as a model. Right. Yeah, exactly. And that's why Trump needs to understand that this is not just about pumping up the price of Bitcoin. That's not the utility that American needs. We need a decentralized financial system in order to succeed economically as a nation.

By the way, I hope you don't mind my comedy here, but the chroma glow around your head looks like the spirit of Obi-1 Canobi in the Empire Strikes Back. So thank you for bringing that in. It's great. That's a positive image. You're like Obi-1-Kinobi here today. But you're the- I wasn't shooting for it, but if it works, it works.

It works. Hey, well, we had Bitcoin Jesus earlier, and now we have Obi-1-Kin-Kin-Bi of crypto. So thank you for joining us with all of that. Aaron, I completely agree with what you're saying, but I fear that even with Trump coming in, to the administration, there's going to be so much power and control demanded by the central banks.

The Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury, nobody wants to give up power, and they can weaponize their system. They can weaponize prosecution like they've done against Roger Veer. How on earth do you perceive that the American people could decentralize finance and effectively defeat the con of the Fed that G. Edward Griffin has warned us about for decades? Ron Paul, for that matter. Well, so, I mean, I always say vote with your feet and ditch the dollar. This has actually been my theme for a couple of years now.

I mean, I've been living outside of the banking system since 2019. So it is possible. It just requires people to be willing to stand up and try alternatives. And, you know, the crypto that I'm talking about, you know, this karma privacy coin is built using a blockchain called Zeno, Z-A-N-O, which is an incredible technology that has really been 10 years in the making with proven cryptography behind it. And so, you know, the way to be successful at this is to out-innovate. And we know what we're facing with these central banks. The whole point of what's going on with CBDCs is a movement towards a single global

digital currency and a complete surveillance state where inevitably all of our transactions are monitored and our behavior is tied to a social credit score. whether or not we have access to money relates to whether or not we comply with the government mandate. And so the way you defeat surveillance is with privacy, which is why I think projects like Zeno, Monero, and the stable coin that I'm working on are ways out, legitimate ways out, where people can opt out of the system. Well, I'm a big fan of Monero, just to be clear.

If I have a choice, I always prefer to use Monero over Bitcoin for real-world transactions because I don't want to leave a trail of what I did with that money. Like recently, I donated crypto to the congressional campaign of Dennis Kucinich, by the way. Former Democrat ran as an independent. He has an anti-war stance, right? And, you know, we complied with FEC rules. I filled out my name and everything, you know, as required. And I donated the maximum allowable under law, which I think was $3,300 worth of crypto.

but I would rather use crypto for that kind of thing than the banking system. The banking system can always say no. Why should I have to go ask for permission from my bank? Or if I'm wiring money to buy gold, I don't want my bank asking me questions like, what's it for? What's it for? Oh, I'll tell you what it's for. It's for none of your damn business is what it's for.

It's my money. Send out the wire, right? But with crypto, we don't have that problem, do we? We don't have that problem. But also, we used to have an assumption of privacy. by default, even with our current banking system and with the dollar, and that has disappeared. There are now 13 different federal programs that are involved in tracking our financial behavior. The NSA is doing bulk data collection.

The IRS is now using AI working with banks to analyze all of our transactions. Through the Patriot Act and the Bank Secrecy Act, they can come in and seize your bank account and then issue something called a national security letter where you can't talk to anybody about it, including your own lawyers. So this isn't a future CBDC. This is the current state of surveillance of our current system. So the Fourth Amendment is completely out, has been thrown out the window. And so we just need to take our privacy back and reassert privacy as a fundamental right.

Well, it seems to me like the Roger Veer case is really the litmus test for the Trump administration. If they free Roger Veer, that's sort of an indicator that Trump is going to be pro-crypto and support innovation for the whole crypto space, right? If Roger Veer gets prosecuted, then it seems like that's a sign to all of us that they're going to come after us next. I mean, this is a big deal. But it is a big deal, but, you know, I live in New Hampshire, and so I was here when Trump came out against CBDCs.

And so Trump has made a statement that he is against CBDCs. And so I think it's really important for Trump to understand that it's Biden's executive order, which is probably why they accelerated and decided to ultimately go after Roger at the last minute because Roger is a threat to CBDCs. So if anything, Trump should be talking to Roger because if Trump wants to fulfill his campaign promise to stop CBDCs, there is no one on the planet that knows more about this topic than Roger Veer. Well, and if Trump does decide to either pardon him or tell the DOJ just drop the prosecution, drop the charges, It's ridiculous.

That would generate so much goodwill, even across independent media, many of us who have been critical of Trump's position on vaccines, for example. But the goodwill that would engender would be tremendous. Aaron Day, we're out of time. Give us your website one more time, please. Daylightfreedom.org. Okay, daylightf freedom.org. And, Aaron, keep us posted. Thank you so much for all that you do.

I've enjoyed getting to know you, and I really appreciate your philosophy. Godspeed. Take care. Thank you. Thank you for having me. All right. And thank you all. Mike Adams here with the Alex Jones Show. And there's more show straight ahead, the third hour.

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And we had the FBI directors and others line said that they didn't know that he feds at January 6th. They ran the whole damn thing. And after Dr. David Martin leaves us, very gracious to join us, I'm going to get into the breaking news. It's up on infoorwors.com. We'll post it on X.

DOJ Inspector General reveals 26 federal informants at Capitol January 6th with most entering restricted areas. Yeah, like the ones in black uniforms, black outfits breaking into the doors. Then the cops fake handcuff him, then later unhandcuff him and high fie them. Or the guys on tape and cops try to arrest him saying, hey, I'm a Fed. Here's my badge.

You mean like those people? We'll get all those clips. We don't need the Inspector General to tell us that. And that's only what the FBI's admitted to. I was there. We'll talk about that at the bottom of the hour in 30 minutes. I really appreciate Dr. David Martin, who needs no introduction coming on the show. He's been really breaking down the current developments,

the attempts to launch a new medical hysteria. to cover up for all the mass death caused by these injections. And so I want to try to give him the floor for the next 30 minutes. We're on over 450 radio stations. Most of him don't carry this first five, but he's on early. I appreciate him being there. So maybe he can give us a prelude of what's coming up. We'll go to break in about four minutes.

He'll come back for about 23 minutes to break down these developments. But there's been a lot of new developments and a lot breaking since he was on a few months ago, and I've been following his work. And so I wanted to have him on to brief the millions of viewers. and listeners. So thank you, Dr. Martin, for coming on with us. Lex, it's always an honor to see you, and I'm grateful for the time that we can spend together. Give us a little snapshot of what's coming up. Well, we know that Peter Hotez has gone on record now. Once again, telling the world that on or about sometime around January

21st, we're going to have a new pandemic. As I said, very recently, The disease X, the new pandemic that he's talking about, H5N1, is the subject of over 3,099 patents. For those not familiar with patents, patents take at least 18 to 24 months to process. So the fact that there are 3,09 patents going back over a decade that actually have both the gain of function research, the alleged vaccines, which are not vaccines,

They are once again biological weapons built on the back of a phony viral model. And the fact that he's now saying that somewhere around January 21st we're going to have this new outbreak is actually, once again, the criminal conspiracy that has been ongoing now for quite a few years, that is once again trying to derail civil society and disrupt the order. transition of power. As I've said many, many times, if we go back and look at what happened during the last Trump administration, Donald Trump allowed a traitor, his name was Alex Azar, to work with Anthony Fauci, to overthrow a government, which is exactly what they did. They disrupted the electoral system. They made it abundantly clear that because we needed to social distance, we needed to do all kinds of the nonsense, we couldn't have an orderly election. And lo and behold, Donald Trump had allowed these traders to come in and not only

destroy the fair process of democracy, but more importantly, to sign executive orders that ultimately led to the death of millions of people through the biological weapon distributed as a vaccine. And the fact of the matter is, we're watching this happen again. We are being told what day it's going to happen, which is particularly ironic, because this is supposed to be a natural thing. That's kind of fascinating, kind of like event 201 was in October of 2019. We're being told what's coming and all I can say is people. This is a fraud just like the last one. It's a criminal operation. It is actually intended to harm, destroy and kill American citizens and people all around the world. And we need these kinds of conversations to make sure that we're ahead of the story

because being ahead of the story gives us the advantage of potentially disrupting it. Wow. Absolutely. Absolutely. And nobody's research this more than you. Let's come back and lay it all out and how we stop it with Dr. David Martin. Stay with us. Patriot apparel, the supplements at the yellowshone store.com, do not have a lot of markup because we're being very competitive. And it's critical to funding our operation. But we do have limited edition posters that do have a lot of markup in them so that if you really want to support to keep us on the air, you can go buy the products. Now, there are currently five limited edition posters. And on January 6, we're not going to make any more of the year. designs. So if you want to get them, hang them on the wall, hang them at your office, know that you really supported the info war at a critical time, and know that we really got some major funds in from it, because the posters cost like $6, $7 a piece. We sell it for $25, $29 depending on the

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It's absolutely dead on. He's done the most research when it goes to the documents and the admissions of these people. Dr. David Martin, David Martin. Dot World joins us, Davidmartin.org. I'm not going to go over his whole background. Most people know who he is, but he has done some of the very best work from the open source admissions

of this long-term project to create anti-function viruses, release them on the public, then rollout systems to depopulate and poison the public, and to destabilize civilization and bring in the great reset. So recap what you just

said, because some stations don't carry it, doctor. It's so important, but for people that just joined us, HOTES is the new Fauci, just as Fauci said, in the winter of 2017, that don't worry, we'll stop Trump's agenda, will take control using a virus. Now, HOTES came out last

week in the Houston Chronicle and on MSNBC and listed 11 viruses is just gleeful saying, this will crash down on Trump, this will stopping, this will maintain control. Then the whole 100 plus Nobel laureates that are globalists came out and said, if he gets Robert of Kennedy in and others, they'll stop our whole agenda,

but don't worry, new viruses will discredit them. I mean, they are not even veiling. There's not been a thin veil on this. What they're doing, it's one of their major tracks, expanding war, new viral power grab. They're openly saying they're going to try to have racial conflict. It's a pretext of drive Trump from office. and there's some other angles.

But this one is the operation that they've clearly said they're launching with glee. And it's like watching a supervillain, but for real, just rubbing their hands together when they announce they're going to, you know, blow up a major city if you don't give Dr. Evil a hundred trillion dollars. But people say, well, that looks like a cartoon character. You know, those characters are based on the real criminology. Dr. Martin, you've got the floor. Please give us a breakdown of what we're facing and how we stop them.

Well, Alex, as I've said many times, you know, we've been monitoring over 70 biologic weapons pathogens that are the subject of gain of function research that we've been monitoring at MCAM, my company, for the last now, almost 25 years. And what we know is that in the case of what Peter Hotez has just laid out, you know, they have been rolling out a series of trial balloons on, what is allegedly going to be the next pandemic. And the fact of the matter is, in the case of H5N1, which, by the way, is commercially available, you can buy the pathogen right now, the gain of function pathogen, you can buy it from the NIAID's commercial pathogen library.

So great news is if you're in the market for pathogens, just go to NID, you can buy this stuff. But the problem is what they're doing is exactly the same thing that they did on the EVE of what we were told was a COVID outbreak. And remember, on September 18th, 2019, the World Health Organization and the Welcome Trust and the Gates Foundation and NIAID and the Chinese CDC

all agreed that there was going to be an accidental or deliberate release of a lethal respiratory pathogen. They said lethal. They didn't say a naturally occurring thing. They said a lethal respiratory pathogen. accidental and intentional release, and they said they were going to do it so that they could justify a universal vaccine response platform by September 2020. This is published in World at Risk, the World Health Organization's publication, all of the perpetrators I just described who were acting in racketeering ways alleged that they were going to do this thing. on September 19th, 2019, Alex Azar organized an executive order that Donald Trump signed,

which put in motion the development of a vaccine program that included DNA modification. And then in October of 2019, at Event 201, they told us what the pathogen was going to be. It was going to be a SARS outbreak. It was going to be all the things that in fact happened. And if you go back and look at Event 201, you see that all the newscasts, including things like, like the respirators, including face mask limitations, including PPE limitations. All of these things were laid out ahead of time. We knew it was coming.

We were told it was coming. The perpetrators admitted that they were involved in ultra-hazardous, deadly activity. They said it was a lethal respiratory pathogen. And now Peter Otez is doing the same thing. He's telling us what's coming with no ambiguity. And remember that the reason why is because they're doing a direct. assault on President Trump's attempt to put Bobby Kennedy in at HHS. Now, let's get really clear and unpack the why behind that. Bobby Kennedy has been classified by the mainstream as anti-vaccine.

And I want to be really clear on the fact that while Bobby Kennedy and I do not see eye to eye on everything, what I can say is that Bobby Kennedy, like Del Big Tree and Aaron, Siri and others, are in fact correct in that. What they've called for is they've called for, is they've called for no immunity for the manufacturer of what's called a vaccine if there's not safety data. And the fact of the matter is, we have no safety data on any of the multiple injections that the CDC and the NIH have decided need to be part of the schedule that gets injected from birth all the way up through adulthood. We don't have any of that safety data. And because of that, what they're doing is they're preempting what is ultimately going to be a war on trying to get the

vaccine market and the vaccine criminal conspirators to have the advantage to once again unleash a bio weapon on the population to instill fear so that the population is willing to reject what RFK is trying to do. And like I've said many, many times, this is no different. And Alex, right before this segment, you talked about the January 6th situation. I was speaking right next to the Senate building at a health freedom conference during what became what we called January 6th. As I left the Union Station parking garage and walked with my wife Kim to the stage, I made a note to her on the way. I said there's something grossly wrong.

I said between Union Station and the Capitol, there was no Capitol police, there were no unmarked vehicles, there were no anybody which you'd expect to see on a normal day. I was there. I walked from the ellipse to the Capitol, even after they've been attacking police for hours, the provocateurs. It started when Trump was speaking, and there were no police. It was like, it was just empty. There was, you couldn't see one anywhere.

None. And as a matter of fact, when I was speaking, ironically, CNN that afternoon made me the poster child for allegedly to stop the steal movement. I was on stage and they photoshopped a flag in front of me to show how ultra-patriotic I was as some sort of right-wing nut job. And the fact of the matter is to do that, they had to focus. to shop a flag in front of the image of me that they then put on CNN, which I found out, actually several hours later from my family where they were greatly offended that I was actually

at the Capitol. But the point is that these things are acts of war. Let's be really clear. When I say this is a bio-warfare situation, please remember that I'm not saying that carelessly. In 2005, Ralph Barrick at the DARPA-Miter conference stated that the synthetic coronavirus was in fact a biow warfare enabling technology. Now, I've stated that many times. It's right on his CV. You don't have to go very far to find this. But this bio-warfare enabling technology is not in just one model called coronavirus. This model is actually, now replicated across over 70 different modified structures where they're taking what is a naturally occurring substance. They're weaponizing it. They're making it infectious,

which means a weapon to target a person, replication defective, which means it stays inside of you. It doesn't transmit to others. And they're doing this once again so that they can disrupt everything about our lives. And the reason I'm so passionate about getting this message out is in four and a half years, Alex, you know, I've been trying to get justice for the antitrust racketeering and ultimately

murder cases that we have. And to this day, we still do not have a single law enforcement agency in this country who has been willing to take on the criminal conspiracy that has resulted in the death and maiming

of millions of Americans. And I've said many times, there's a reason why I'm not invited down to Mar-a-Lago. I'm not invited because I will not stop until we have accountability for the fact that though it may have been in ignorance, this was something that was started under the Trump administration. And I do not want the second Trump administration to be marred by another situation where gain-of-function weapons are unleashed on the population. And let's be 100% crystal clear. there is no debate. You're right.

I've played the videos. You have them on your site. You've mentioned the days. But I remember 2018, 19, 20, you know, when we played the clips here, Fauci had multiple events that were on C-SPAN. We played the clips. And he's like, don't worry, a new type of bird virus will come out of China. We're going to blow up the old system of the FDA and bring out anything we want with no trials. And we'll get control of society.

And the UN said in their own documents that leaked, we're going to use disease X to bring in global government. So they've always said their main power grab would be a global system to counter viruses they released. And then they hit us with a shot that erases our immune system that makes us sick or kill us. Then they say, oh, look, that's the new viruses. And then as the third world starts dying, they go,

oh, it's global warming. It's just a cover all. And then now we see a repeat of what Fauci said in 2017 team with the incoming Trump. Basically, word for word from HOTES, now that Fauci's so discredited. He's now come to the forefront. We see similar statements out of TEDRO's at the WHO.

So they've said, don't worry, this is how we'll maintain control and kill Trump's agenda. I know behind the scenes, Trump now understands some of this. But you're absolutely right. We are friends to Trump, but we're responsibilities of friends of humanity. Trump needs to know. they've already said this is their next move. So what do you think President Trump should be doing right now? Listen, I think that, as I've said many times, President Trump could very easily launch an investigation and inquiry, a criminal inquiry, into the coup that overthrew his first term.

There is no question. You know, everybody in the media is talking about the pardon, the preemptive pardon that a lot of people are suggesting for Anthony Fauci. you don't suggest a preemptive pardon if there's not a crime, right? This is not something that you socialize. There was an article just a few days ago in the Gateway Pundit where I was heavily quoted. And in that article, you know, we talked at length about the fact that just because there is a presidential pardon, that doesn't absolve Anthony Fauci of all of his crimes because the fact of the matter is he specifically stated in 2014 and 2015 that the motivation, that the motivation for doing what he was doing with the gain of function research,

particularly around coronavirus, was so that the public would increase funding for his research. That is a economic incentive to violate the law, to break the gain of function moratorium, to authorize in 2014 the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and Ralph Bear, to authorize the ability to continually manipulate the coronavirus from, Wuhan Institute of Ruralogy. Remember the Proceedings of National Academy of Sciences, 2016,

W.I.V.1, poised for human emergence. Ladies and gentlemen, you don't surprise the public with a, quote, bat virus from Wuhan when in 2016, you have the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences saying, W.I.V.1, poised for human emergence. And in that article, At the very end of the article, the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill acknowledges that the research that was done was done in violation of the gain of function moratorium. And somebody somewhere, read Anthony Fauci at NID, was the one who in writing, in October of 2014, authorized that violation. We have a criminal conspiracy that overthrew the Trump administration before.

and what I want to see is I want to see the Department of Justice, and I want to see the, hopefully, the Attorney General, actually launch not a investigation, but actually take one further step. Take this step to what it is. It is racketeering that was, in fact, treason. And we need to not have this nonsense about some sort of preemptive pardon. what we need to do is we need to have the criminal conspirators brought to justice,

and that includes the Gates Foundation and the Welcome Trust. We need to have everyone not only the participants, but the people who funded that activity, held to account. And if we don't do that, we're just signing up for the next round of this terror campaign. Dr. David Martin, I know that large sections of the power structure hate Trump, and I know that he's trying to stop the escalation of, what we're already in World War III is going nuclear. That's one of the main tracks.

The Democrats have said they're handing him a disaster. They've said they're escalating it to try to stop its agenda apiece. That's one of the big tracks. The other big track, the one that they're clearly going with, so it's just as dangerous, is the new hysteria, the new scare? As you said, they're all over the news saying this will discredit Trump. This will make us be in control of the agenda. This will change the subject from him bringing back jobs and industry control on the border.

And so Trump must do this. It's great who he's bringing in. It's great. I think the new NIH guy's been critical of the system. He's not one-tenth as informed as you are, but compared to other people he could have gotten, looks good. Robert McKinney Jr. has integrity. He's exposing this.

He doesn't go all the way because I think he thinks the public can't handle that. But no, you have to go all the way because that's it. And the same criminals are still in place and are laughing and chortling, like supervillains, literally celebrating and monologue. that don't worry, we're still in command. And the UN's saying that. And so Trump must do this. If he doesn't at this point,

then we have to conclude that he's working with them. But if you look at it, they did really try to kill him. They really are trying to destroy him. They really are coming after his supporters. And so I know Trump's very intelligent, but he also has blind spots. So I can't intellectually see that he is with them. So he has to be autistic or something.

I'm not saying he is. He would have to have some weird blind spot if he doesn't understand. The main attack on his agenda is this. And this should be our agenda is getting him informed and exposing it and having instant criminal investigation. We have all the emails of you said. They're public lying to Congress, gain a function, bragging about how the new virus is coming.

ha ha, ha, before doing it again. And they've been above the law so far, and that's got to stop. Well, and that's exactly right. And Alex, I got very heavily criticized on my last conversation with this show, because people said, well, you know, I was being an apologist for Trump saying that he was ignorant of these things or whatever. What I know is, and my grandfather said to me many times, never attribute to malevolence what is ignorance. I am not going to suggest that this was a malevolent situation. What I am saying is the evidence is unambiguous. We now have people like Robert Redfield who are coming out and clearly stating that he actually thinks that this probably had more to do with University of North Carolina Chapel Hill than it had to do with Wuhan Institute of Viralogy.

And that's a very interesting admission. And what I am seeing, and Redfield, for whatever reason, has decided to kind of turn the corner and start to acknowledge. that the things that I've been stating for the last four and a half years are, in fact, all absolutely documented and true. And the article you've just posted, I mean, look at this, WIV-1, Wuhan Institute of Aerology Virus 1. Ladies and gentlemen, that article published in 2016, and look at it, it said, received for review September 4th, 2015, right in the fat middle of the gain-of-function moratorium. This was an illegal piece of work, illegally done, weaponizing a model of the Wuhan Institute of Virology Virus One. Okay, that's what they said they did. And what they did in this article is they actually targeted human epithelial lung tissue.

Alex, they went as far as to tell us that they were going to hit the human lung with this thing. They optimized it so it would hit the human lung. They optimize it so it hit the ACE receptor. It's right in the middle of the article. Absolutely. And that was my next question. Why did they, this was a scandal for people that don't know in 2015. It was all over the news.

I'd sign it's not about it. So why do Fauci and all them brag and then say it in their emails and documents but then lie to Congress? Well, I know why. They want to act confident to their cult. They want to look like they're invincible while at the same time denying it. But we have them. And you're right.

Redfield and others left. the sinking ship the last year or so. Now he's fully turned the corner because he knows it's coming out. That should signify to other people in the system. You better roll over now and then you might not end up in a supermax prison for the rest of your life. Right. Right.

And my feeling is really simple. I have tried and you know Alex, I've tried with attorneys general. I've tried with sheriffs. I've tried with members of Congress. I've tried with senators. I've tried to get anybody to pay attention to the evidence

I've never once ever in the last four and a half years stated my opinion about this situation. This has been facts. It has been their facts. And what I get, in fact, recently I had a law firm that was allegedly going to cooperate with our efforts, who came back and told me that they were only going to use what was publicly available, and they wrote a New York Times piece on the Wuhan Lab League. And I said, guys, we have dead to rights by their own admission in their own. own documents that they said that they were going to release a lethal respiratory

pathogen. They actually did a material transfer agreement from U.S. And then we know they made it and it's the very pathogen they released. And we're not guessing at it. They actually told us in 2015 that it was going to be a weaponized version of the Wuhan Institute of Virology Virus 1. Guys, there's no chance that nature backed a bat into that story. And now to cover up that attack. backed anything to that story. And now to cover up that attack, how do you cover one bad story with a new, bigger, batter story?

They made the decision. They're winding up to, and they're hitting us right now. I mean, you're right. And so what's the solution? The solution is President Trump can take this action. And once again, as I've always said, he has the ability to simply stay. I was lied to by traders. Simple statement. He was lied to. They are traders. And we should see justice being brought. And as long as there is breath in these lungs, I'll tell you what, Alex,

I'm going to continue to call for that, even though I know that this voice is not welcome in a lot of circles. But the fact of the matter is, I'm actually trying to defend this country. I'm not trying to defend an individual because we need to stand for America right now. We do not need to sit here and say, well, it was an honest mistake. No, it was a crime, and it's a crime that is leading to the death and murder of American citizens right now. We need to stop it. David Martin. Not world. And just to be clear, it's the heart of the whole globalist crime syndicate power and how they say they're going to stay in power. Lockdowns, four shots, more death, derailing our agenda. We must, for our own futures, do this.

David, thank you for your incredible work. God bless you, and thank you for your courage. Thank you. It's always an honor to see you, Alex. Thanks very much. Thank you, Doctor. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Thank you, sir. I have more to say on this and a lot more. Stay with us. Ladies and gentlemen, I have got a massive win-win situation for you. The Alexjones store.com has launched an affiliate program. Now, you can use the money you make from it to buy product or with one click get cashed out every single month at the Alex Jones store.com. So while you get access to amazing supplements, Patriot Year and other amazing products, you can also promote the link on your email to your friends, to your family, on your ex account, on Instagram, on YouTube, and 10% of the sale comes right off the top to you paid out each month. This is going to explode.

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How does this all tie together? Darkjournalists.com, YouTube, Dark Journalists. I'm going to give you the floor here, but give us the 35,000-foot view and then bring it in for people because your analysis, I think, is the best out there, dark journalist. Alex, it's great to be here and Viva Info Wars as well. But it's an excellent point that there's so much going on right now, and your Ukraine coverage is really getting to the heart of the matter of just how serious the situation is pre-inaguration. And there's been a dedicated group involved, the continuity of government group, that's been at odds. with the Trump administration since before he got in, in fact, and have been at odds at different times with different administrations,

but slowly percolating up there in power centers throughout time. And it's very interesting to note that the continuity of government players, very often their people are involved when you get into these deep events in history, whether you can track it all the way back through Watergate, 9-11, you know, the actions of Iran-Contra. and even the debacle of the financial coup d'etat of 2008, along with COVID, all have involved some very serious COG players. So they're right there in the heart of it. And they tend to stay in the background.

So we don't know their names. And one of the things I like to do is really popularize who they are, who's running that, and exactly what kind of powers that they have. Because, in fact, the COG commander has the ability to take over the United States under emergency power rule for Northcom. He's the leader of Northcom, NORAD, and he's the COG commander. So he's a triple threat, as it were. And as we know, Northcom only came on board after 9-11. And so it's a totally artificial organization for running the United States. We never had anything like that before Northcom.

And the continuity of government program itself, it's very interesting because it piggybacks on an authentic program, which was to prevent this whole idea about, you know, the Russians' bomb. the United States back in the 50s, and they built a gigantic infrastructure underground during the Eisenhower administration. And it's quite fascinating because the same thing that was going on above ground with the highway development across coast to coast in America, which really fueled the economy and caused this big boom in the 50s, there was a gigantic underground infrastructure counterpart. So we had all these COG bases built up in the event that there was going to be a decapitation of the United States government and this other government.

would have to take over. But after a while, it got very fuzzy, and the oversight got very poor. And this group started to participate with more and more powers so that people who were key in certain deep events all the way from Dick Cheney to John Dean were all deeply, deeply involved with the continuity of government program. Continue breaking this down because this is so important. Well, here's what I see them doing. They've been positioning now very heavily. They just did a series of chemical attack, you know, running through these different missions. And what they were doing was basically doing these tests for a massive chemical attack.

To me, that's a pretty bad sign for what they've been up to. And the thing about continuity of government that I think is little understood is that when the switch is thrown, and they used to be such a secret organization, but I can speak about this in such a way because even people like Nancy Pelosi, talk about them publicly now. That's the kind of thing that should make you nervous when you realize the kind of powers that COG has. But when that switch is thrown, they assign regional governors. And through the regional governors, they have the Northcom commander, and he gives the instructions, the regional governors take over. And then what happens when the regional governors take over is they say, well, we're going to secure things until we can have an election.

Well, with the unusual setup of the, you know, resignation of Biden from the campaign, but staying. in as president and then Trump winning the election along with the alliance with Bobby and everything else, I think that things are very rife with the situation of COG coming in and taking a look at the surroundings and saying this is an ideal opportunity. And so we have this kind of period running here between now and the inauguration that gets us into very heavy territory. And what you see coming up right around the election period is all of these UFOs forms around nuclear bases, whether it's in the UK or in America.

And at Langley, the story came out that Langley Air Force Base was harassed for 17 days by swarms of unknown drones. Now, that's a wartime condition. Who was operating those devices and how are they defined as drones? So this is all also simulated so that we're looking at it, and this is part of an operation where they can report this thing, hey, you know, we're running it as a drill. But what's happening is they're reporting it for real in the Wall Street Journal, for example, and they went to go interview the COG commander in relation to this UFO swarm at the base in Langley. And they cited him, they talked about him, they called him General Van Herrick.

Well, he's the previous COG commander. The current commander is Gregory Geo, and both of them, interestingly enough, have a UFO connection in their background in terms of the bases that they were at. So for me, this was very odd because, you know, I mean, I worked at the Wall Street Journal. They're very accurate. They're not going to get the former COG commander to comment like he's the current COG commander. Now, that story came out early in November, but I thought that that was odd to start with because it is, in fact, Gio, who is the COG commander. Now they're having interviews with the COG commander, Gio, and he's talking about UAP, you know, which is this code word that they've used for UFOs to try to read.

rebrand the thing. And it's very fascinating because Gio, when he's talking about UAP, he got very nervous when he was speaking to Defense One, which is one of these military publications. And he actually ran out of the room when they were talking about UAP and said, I have something else to get to. So something very strange is going on with the swarm aspect. And then when we get to the whole thing about the swarms and the UK bases, is this is outrageous because whenever you get around, you know, you can't have objects in the air without norat knowing where they come from, what their origin is, what they are, et cetera.

So there's no way that they don't know what the craft are that they're seeing. And if it was a genuine situation of, you know, it's kind of UFO invasion idea, then they would put everything on an alert status immediately. What they're doing is they're sort of testing this scenario out with the public. And it looks to me like the drone incursions are being caused by somebody inside of that structure as a drill to get public feedback.

So it's a very dangerous situation because you have a genuine kind of UFO file aspect involved, but then you have this continuity of government sort of ginned up threats. And the UFO threat is what the UFO hearings were all about. They trotted out a bunch of CIA, NGA, NRA guys, and they were basically saying, oh, we know there's a threat out there, and we're going to get that government to give us that. We've got these whistleblowers, and all the whistleblowers are all government people. They're not whistleblowers at all. They're all CIA or NRO or NGA people.

And we've seen many examples. I remember 20 years ago and again 10 years ago, they would show over Salt Lake City or New York up at 30,000, 40,000, 60,000 feet, a giant derigible or blimp. And they would even zoom in with telephoto lenses and show propellers on it and say, oh, it's aliens. And all it is is a giant government surveillance blimp. So they're using this to introduce this idea. Now we're seeing exponential levels of this along with the NATO escalation. What is your analysis of why we're seeing this? Well, it's interesting because at the very beginning of that Russia-Ukraine war, there were weird, you know, signals.

And one of those signals was very interesting. It was we were looking at a plane, one of the most sophisticated planes that the Russians had, going down in an area called Voronej. And that was a big headline at the time. What's interesting, when I tracked back on Vornage, it turned out it was the site of a major UFO landing with, you know, the whole public was out there. The police chief of the region was out there. And that story went all the way back to 1989. It was carried here in America on Nightline.

So Vornage was instantly a weird signature. The other thing that was strange when the war started is that Gilae Maxwell from prison started to talk about Chernobyl. And this was another kind of strange. piece that popped up here. It's like, why are we talking about Chernobyl all of a sudden? Well, then all of a sudden, early in the war, the Ukraine forces capture Chernobyl, and they have the Russians

battling it out over Chernobyl, which was the site of this massive nuclear meltdown in the 1980s. So there were strange signals instantly, and that's how governments work when it gets to the UFO technology aspect, the advanced technology, the X technology, which is they signal each

other without coming right out and saying it. At a certain point, there were headlines in Russia saying, we shot down UFOs over the Moscow airport. Well, that's a very strange headline coming out of there. But we did our own version of that in 2023 when we had the Chinese balloon stuff. You know, these were very unusual things. They're testing the public on what happens if you have a threat from above. And so when you get into that whole aspect around the World War aspect that we're coming

into around a genuine nuclear threat, probably nothing like it since the Cuban Missile Crisis, in fact. And we're looking at this alliance of Trump and Kennedy coming into office. We're getting a lot of very strange pushpole when you look at the kind of design of history and where we are now at this, which is the same sort of clash that took place back there during the Kennedy era, is still with us. It was never, in fact, resolved over those 60 years. and you have this same deep state operation and the same battle over this advanced technology going on very deep inside the government to a level where it's very difficult for any normal reporter to get their hands on it.

You know, it's funny about the UFO hearings because we had this guy, Schellenberger, out there, and, you know, he was playing the journalist part. And he said, you know, I only got interested in UFOs last year. And all of a sudden, 12 CIA guys came to me and they had all this info for me. And then they have him up there as their spokesman. And he said, oh, I found this program is called Immaculate Constellation. And it's all about what we're doing for crash retrievals. Well, the program doesn't even exist. They gave him a lot of fluff.

And they made the whole hearings out of it. So you have all these people like, you know, Congressman Burchett and so they genuinely probably want to get somewhere on the subject. And they're questioning these people who are getting thirdhand advice from, you know, NRO, NSA people. So you're not going to get the truth from any of the UFO hearings, unfortunately. Fortunately, and we've had people out there like Nancy Mace and Anna Luna and these other people who've been trying to get some kind of answers, but they don't know a great deal about the topic. And that's part of the problem, which they've kept them in the dark. And when they've been given briefings in that, things along that line, they're not able to make notes. If you go into some of the people who've been on those meetings, they say they treat us like a six-year-old.

They're openly hyping in 2020 in the New York Times that have Trump won. and they were just not going to accept it and declare a new government. John Podesta said they would then have an alternate government in Colorado Springs right by Cheyenne Mountain. They were introducing the idea then. Pelosi said the military isn't going to let him be the president again. And they've talked about national emergencies. They've talked about civil war conditions. If he does win, 54 days out, it's clear they're planning something big.

They're claiming white supremacists that we always learn to run by the feds, are going to knock out the power grid, so they do it. blame the Russians, blame Trump, say white supremacist work for Trump. They've already pre-programmed that clearly big false flags against migrants. And then we have mayors saying they're going to physically resist ICE. Clearly they're trying to set that up as well. Seeing all the COG activity, looking at the tea leaves, what do you see unfolding? Well, one of the main things I think that they can use is the UFO threat aspect.

Now, they do have other aspects where they could call in COG. cyber attacks, the things that you're talking about on the nuclear side, certainly a nuclear warning, would do it. But then the nuclear thing gets very messy, unless you're using Rod of God technology and some of the things that they haven't let out yet. Like we've done some reports on this ripple technology that's classified even now, even though it's been around 60 years. And that ripple technology lets off a nuclear catastrophe, but it doesn't have any fallout. So it has a kind of a clean burn where it destroys things, but they're still able to use it after the fact. So the Rod of God technology also gets us into a weird place, and this is the kind of thing where they don't want to disclose everything that they have. But we know about the Rod of God technology because that also has this ripple-type effect where it goes into a particular area, decimates it like a nuclear explosion, but it doesn't have any of the fallout that's involved.

So those advanced weapons, I hope to never see them use, but we see in the conflict with what's going on with NATO forcing themselves. in there and really at the very end of the Biden administration trying to ramp this up and ratchet it up into World War III, it creates a perfect scenario for the continuity of government players. Now, if you see anything, you know, as soon as the election kicked in, if you get a UFO hearing a week after the election and then you have all of these drone swarms, quote unquote, in Langley Air Force Base, in the United States, you're having a drone swarm. I mean, that is unheard of, but now we're seeing it at U.S. bases overseas. So that's- Stay there. Stay there. Daniel, Daniel, list, darkjournalist, darkjournalist.com. Stay right there. I want to come back and people that don't know about D.U.S.A. Bose, Tungsten, rods of God, smart pebble, x-ray lasers, clean hydrogen bombs, ripple effects, neutron bombs.

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joins us, and he's going right to what we know they have. A lot of this has been the classified. A lot of it's 40, 50, 60, 70 years old. The Nazis developed a lot of it. Got perfected by the United States. And so I think you can extrapolate it. And you see the arrogance of the Pentagon and Lloyd Austin, the rest of them. We're not worried about nuclear war with Russia. We might go ahead and just sneak attack them. Yeah, we might just have our armies attack right now.

Go ahead, Russia. Go ahead, Russia. Do something. Do something. It's not speculation, dark journalists in my views, Daniel, that NATO is trying to go into a hot nuclear war right now is what's your view on that and then just give us a 35,000 foot view. Some stations don't carry this five minutes. We'll come back into the short break and address all of it and take calls and go deeper into this. But what do you think is really, because I know you don't like to speculate a lot, but just as a person, it's an individual having a lot of knowledge. Do you agree with the statement I just made? Yeah, absolutely. It's interesting too when you get around the whole Russian aspect because

Russia has their own UFO file development, their own secret technology program that's, you know, right up there with ours, if not even beyond it. And there's been a lot of nuclear brinkmanship back and forth on that. They know also that there's a blackmail aspect involved because they, from every deep event in the United States history from the moon landings to the Kennedy assassination, you know, I think we went to the moon by the way, but they know a lot more about what happened there. But, But they have kind of their own records of 9-11. They have their own records of what took place with the COVID off and other things. So there's a cat and mouse game that goes back and forth on the UFO file technology. The way that that works is Russia has their own redevelopment program. They've reached a certain level. And so at times, when we roll things out, they get a sense of the type of technology that we have. Now remember, it's Gorbachev is the former leader of the Soviet Union who came out in

2014. He was talking with Charlie Rose, of all people, in the New York Press Club, and he said Reagan took me aside during Reykivik and said, look, we have this whole UFO swarms around. Will you work with us to fight off a UFO threat? And Gorbachev said he was totally serious. Now, Gorbachev went on the record with that in front of all these national security people like George Schultz and the late Henry Kissinger and others. And but this is a gigantic thing for them to admit that this has been working all along. So whenever we get around this Russia-America clash, it has that signature because JFK and Khrushchev, for example, they wanted to get together.

They said, we don't want the translator with us. You know, we basically want to do this one-on-one. We don't want any state department officials. We don't want any of that because they want to get at the UFO file conversation. Reagan and Gorbachev, same thing. Just the translator, please. No state department people. people, nothing. Trump and Putin, how many efforts were made to keep Trump and Putin away from

each other by calling a Trump a Putin puppet? So if they get in there and they discuss the UFO file between themselves, it cuts out the loop of the middlemen, the expert tech group that's managing all this. This is the nature of the problem. It's a completely secret technology program and the little breadcrumbs that they roll out in the congressional hearings are just to condition us to, because at a certain point they've been developing this stuff in the background, as they roll it out in their control system, they need us to get on board with what they've been doing for the past 80 years. I mean, it's kind of hilarious when you think about the fact that we haven't gone to the moon since 1972. I mean, how absurd is that? Suddenly we have a program that's going to go back to the moon, Artemis.

You know, we've been cut out of the loop and a secret space program has been developed in the background during that whole period. That's the infrastructure that's in place. And Elon Musk is a giant part of this. Let's talk about him and get your expertise on that. Daniel knows what he's talking about. Darkjournalist, darkjournalist.com. I know callers you're there. I'll get to at least everybody that's on hold right now.

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Well, I thought the day I met. Well, look, the different elite grips the planet are very public about disruptive technologies, whether we had a real Atlantis or not that blew itself up with some free energy system. We are at that Atlantean moment now where we could easily destroy ourselves, and most of the different studies of it say we probably will. That's why must have we've got to get off world immediately. The Niels-Agrass Tyson says, well, save this. Earth. Well, yeah, but just in case we better become a type 1 civilization that's not dependent on

one planet. Plus, we're trailblazers, we're mavericks, we're explorers is what we're supposed to do. But it's not big business. It's everything that the establishment wants to keep the people in the dark about knowledge, about history, about technology, about life extension systems. And I mean, they admitted 30 years ago that they had animal, human, cross-species clones. And then 15 years ago, MIT quarterly. Oh, there's humanoid chestating inside cows at laboratories across the United States. Now, yeah, we got these humanoid creatures, but we don't really show them to you. So there's that point of them admitting all this, this breakaway civilization or competing, breakaway corporate

governmental systems. And so I would ask dark journalist who's an expert on this, how would you break down the different power blocks? How many are there? And subgroups? And what is the dominant group? And what is their goal? Because on the surface, it looks like Russia has a pro-human vision. Elon Musk has a pro-human vision,

though still somewhat transhumanists, that's going to happen. So let's just open source. It'll be honest about it. And it's really dangerous. We better spread it out. And then those that just want us playing video games and taking psychotropics and quietly being phased out and dying,

that's the main Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Bill Joy admitted plan, the future doesn't need us. The future is not human. And then the Chikoms, a project of the globalist, but 14 years ago they broke off and are doing their own thing, but still integrated to a certain level of the Anglo-American establishment. I mean, is that kind of a quick gestalt of it? And then how does Elon Musk and Donald Trump as players fit in?

What camp would you say they're in? Because we know Trump's, you know, Uncle really was a top Tesla guy. And, you know, Trump knows about, you know, but obviously he's got inside baseball, at least in some of the breakaway groups. Now there's a breakaway group, you know, that I, that says, let's just admit it. And let people know, which I would think that's the obvious best plan. Full disclosure, that's a lot. How would you unpack that, dark journalist?

Well, that is exactly what we're up against right now. now you have outlined it very well and I'll tell you what's interesting too when you talk about Musk you know Musk has done a lot of good things and opened up a lot of things that that's what he's been doing since he especially since the assassination attempt on president Trump there's no question about it but one of the interesting things is that he won't talk about the UFO file but he knows a great deal about it and because of where the situation that he's in and the dependencies and the cross dependencies he has with other groups especially dealing with space.

When you get up there, you have to play ball because that's an infrastructure that the government has laid out long before the privatization kicked in. And you have other guys who are like that, too. For example, Bigelow Aerospace, Robert Bigelow, you know, he went on 60 minutes and said, oh, yeah, I know UFOs have been here. So many of these guys are clued in, but Musk is the one with SpaceX who can't say anything about it. He knows a great deal about the UFO file. And I've had that direct from people inside. And notice he won't talk about it. And then when he's had a caveat, we can play these.

Different Apollo missions, and these are real NASA tapes. They've since we put out on T. Well, they're like, yep, we're being followed by it. We're being followed by an or. We're being flied by a saucer. And it's behind us. Now it just sped off. Now it just came back.

I mean, that went on. And by the way, I knew people on Mission Control, who were Christian, who I knew well, I was good friends with Raymond Teague died about five, six years ago. He was the guy running the RCA cameras on the moon. And he said, no, we were there. He had national security letters on the wall, presidential awards. He got, I mean, presidential medals from presidents for running the cameras. And he said, listen, I can't tell you, Alex, he said, there was other stuff, though.

He said, and that's the point was we were just the public face of something much bigger. And they admit what, 90% of the space program is military. Go ahead. Oh, absolutely. And there's a battle very early on with Kennedy over. Blue Gemini and NASA, where he goes and basically sends Robert McNamara to threaten them and say, look, if you develop this thing as a secret program, I'm going to kick it back to the military because at least I know they'll report to me. I don't know what you're doing here. And so that whole thing and the whole program, which is actually called Blue on the inside.

And it's funny because when I released that last year, they flipped out in that structure and they came out this year, very early this year, and said, well, yeah, we had Blue. It's true. We did have a program called Blue, but it was set up for crash retrievals. We just did that. It was an exercise. It had nothing to do, and it didn't recover anything. In fact, Kona Blue, which was that program, they had set up based over the actual crashes of UFOs and the redevelopment of that here. And Kona, by the way, the code for Kona was very interesting because it was Kingman, which was the Arizona crash, Austining, which is where all the redevelopment took place. was for Nellis and A was Aztec, which was the crash that happened in 1948. So that whole Kona Blue thing that came out, we had announced it a year earlier because inside that structure, they call the program blue.

So there's a number of reasons for that, but it's important to note when they put out these false names like Immaculate Constellation, which they just dream up and they shove these guys before Congress and he's like, oh, you know, I'm dealing with immaculate constellation whistleblowers. And when you really drill down on it, all the people that he's talking to are all NRO or NSA people. And then we see subgroups of it kind of winking, winking with, you know, the big AI program, Deep Blue, and with the little, you know, private space thing, Blue Origin. Yes, exactly. And Blue Origin is key because he wanted to be baptized to be the King of Space instead of Elon.

And this is where they crisscrossed with him, with Bezos, and they said, no, you have to kind of stay in. your lane. You can run food. You can run Amazon. You can do this other stuff. But you're not getting the big blessing on the space side. We're still going with SpaceX. Bigelow is another competitor in that front. But the problem is with Bigelow is he's very, he has a tendency working out of Las Vegas and all the rest of it to really say what's on his mind. And so they they don't want to work with him on that. But it's very interesting. If you look, talking about Trump and Elon, now here's another factor that's key. When you see Trump out there with the SpaceX launches in Texas.

What does that remind you of? When I look at it, I see Kennedy and von Braun looking up there shortly before Kennedy was assassinated and watching the takeoff of this whole thing. And it's very interesting because I think with SpaceX, it is the same agenda which, you know, they created this whole privatization of space, created the infrastructure for a space program out there, didn't tell the public about it, cut the public ought for 52 years, now they want to introduce them back. But they have it privatized, so it's no longer traced to a government entity so the government doesn't have to be accountable and say, well, here's all, you know,

you've been able to get a FOIA request of what we've done in space. So it's certainly a secret space program and they've invited Elon in. He's kind of the good character that they need for this. And what's interesting for me when I look at Trump, you know, the people that he selected for the cabinet have such a UFO signature. It's over the top, especially John Ratcliffe, who I think is the guy who's going into CIA has said some of the most provocative things about the UFO file of any public official, including the fact

that they have abilities that we just have no idea where those types of abilities come from and we don't know any country that could sponsor it. So he's implicating immediately that there's an off-world aspect to this. And it could very well be true, but not

necessarily. There could be a group here that picked up the technology and developed it. And so when we get to this breakaway idea, we're talking half government and half something else. So it resides not in any particular government or any corporate structure, but somewhere between the two in a kind of shadowy aerospace intelligence corridor. Factions. Let's look at the Anglo-American main globalist power group. How many factions?

Well, I think one of the things that you pointed out there about the different groups, some of them want to share things. So I've split up those into two main groups. X Protect is the group that has a lethal secrecy aspect. They destroy reputations. They knock stories out. They take out real whistleblowers and all the rest. And the X share group goes all the way back to Thomas Townsend Brown and the 1950s UFO groups. And, you know, Thompson Brown was one of the deepest blackoff scientists of all time.

And he developed the biggest UFO group of the period. So he knew very well there was something going on there, and he developed his own anti-gravity experiments. And, you know, it's interesting. A little aside that I talked to his daughter, and she gave me some very firsthand intimations about what Townsend Brown was up to, and the fact that when he was working on certain projects,

he would get threatened by this ex-protect group, and he would take the family off to Aluthorah there in the Bahamas and be surrounded by machine guns for a while until this ex-protect wave kind of calm. down. That's the nature of what's going on in that battle there. And I would say the X-Share group is much smaller. The ex-protect group is wide-ranging. And I think that there's a kind of middle management group between them that just kind of keeps the peace

and keeps things moving out and keeps the National Defense Authorization Act moving forward and the money flowing for the That's very astute. I always describe the globalist model and it's caught by everybody else as like a nuclear, old-fashioned nuclear power plant control thing or a space shuttle controls, you know, thousands of switches. And they see different political movements, organizations, and groups. And they build one up when they want it to be stronger to do something to another group. And it's a symphony of all of that going on. It is.

And it's interesting. At the most secret point, they're very well aware of something you mentioned, which is older technology. And, you know, the whole thing about the Atlantean technology, the things that we talk about in that arena, well, I'll tell you how real this is. The CIA commissioned, I have the file, they commissioned a study, and they planted people inside of Edgar Casey's ARE organization to find out how real the Hall of Records and Two Eyesstone technology was. They placed them in there, they have a record of it, because they wanted the inside from the Casey Foundation. And you know, the Casey Foundation, they're holistic people, they're into holistic health and anything. But Casey has all these dramatic readings about the Atlantean technology that just go off the charts. And he talks all about this two-eye stone technology, which was a power grid that we had at a certain point,

and they tuned it too high, and it pulled down massive land masses. And there's no question that they're concerned about the same type of thing happening and re-engaging that whole technology way. And we have the polls moving. Yes, there's the whole thing about the poll shift. What's fascinating is they have to position themselves. They're aware of the earth changes. There's no question. They're so far advanced on this.

We think about the technology it's coming. I can show you a report, 1976, on artificial intelligence, that all the things that we're talking about in relation to artificial intelligence now, that's 50 years ago. So how far- The intergalactic communication system is a CIA DARPA psychology, plan for the internet and it basically describes where we are now. So theoretically it's amazing. And it's very interesting. You talked about longevity there as well, which is something

they have this whole program about, you know, being immortal in that sense. Well, if you go back, that's very old because Cagliostro in the old Masonic tradition, the philosopher's stone, the whole idea was the philosopher's stone could make you live 5,527 years. So they're going to very deep. And it's funny because when you look at the secrecy program around the UFO file, they use Masonic secrecy rules that are involved there. When they had Van der Ver Bush running the UFO file, he was using, he was the MIT master of the Mason's, of the Masonic Lodge for MIT. And his very interesting protege was Professor John Trump. So that's how we get that whole Trump thing in the background with Tesla as he sends him in. They go and say, who can we handle this very

secret stuff and it's actually van der per bush who runs the UFO file who sends uh professor john trump in so that's the criss cross in history you see a lot of people have it wrong with trump they think oh here's this you know loudmouth political guy who was a real estate developer and a big shot and that's why everybody hates them well you don't have to peel people off the ceiling when you mention trump when you get into these certain circles there's some thing it's sort of like he knows where the bodies are buried in that deep state structure this is the problem problem. His uncle was entree to the UFO technology. There's no question in my mind that John Trump had that. And if he's working in 43 with the Tesla information and Vannever Bush, who's in charge

of the UFO file is sending him in, then we know that Trump has an entree into that advanced technology world. That's a problem. That's where you get Space Force from. Space Force is an attempt by the executive branch to move that UFO file, which got out of the hands of the guard. government of the executive branch in the 50s. They, you know, continual attempts to bring it back under executive control. Space Force was the one that Trump did, and he got away with it. It's an amazing accomplishment. Absolutely.

I want to go to calls here as soon as they've been holding Dale, George, Nick, Stephen, Robert, Will, Mike on World War III, and get your take on that. But just in general, are you expecting, as we see a major buildup, if it continues, continues accelerating with just more flaunting of the secret technology now in a month that we used to see in 10 years. In this trajectory of amplification continues, I mean, are we going to see something close to like massive disclosure soon or fake disclosure? Like some type of cover short? There's no question. Yeah.

It's interesting. They're riding parallel side by side. Here's the thing about the UFO file. They need, they realize that they're getting to a point where the UFO file is coming out. and they need to keep that secrecy on it. So they need their own story about it. So this breakaway group, they need to break back in with the technology and say, you know, we've been developing this thing for 80 years in the background, but how are we going to explain this to the public?

So now they have this story, oh, you know, we're being under attack. There's a UFO threat. They don't talk about beings. This is interesting because if you go into the original physicist who disclosed this and he was on the level of like Oppenheimer, and he said, I worked on the UFO file. You know, we examined bodies that were in there. The bodies, you know, they were constructed. They were like insects.

Somebody had made them. So he was suggesting they were basically Androids that were in there. And he went on record with the whole thing. It's wiped out of history. You can't even find a Wikipedia page on this guy. Robert Sarbarger is his name. And he was, you know, on the cover of Time magazine. He was on all this stuff in the 50s.

He blabs this stuff out in the 80s. And then they just kind of wipe him off. the boards. But he worked directly with the UFO file and the redevelopment program. So that program operates on one level on the Russian side. And when you hear them saying, look, you know, we have these hypersonic missiles, nothing can defend against them and all the rest. That's a direct shot across the bow saying, you know, we know you have the UFO thing, but we have this. And it's very interesting because if you look at the meetings that we've had on a presidential level, one of them that I think is very interesting. And I think this happened with Putin.

and Trump also. But when Reagan meets with Gorbachev at a certain point, they say, they come out and say, we want to have zero nuclear weapons. Well, how do you go to zero nuclear weapons unless you have something else? And it's the something else that is haunting the geopolitical sphere because the public doesn't know what the something else is. Once in a while, we get a hint with the UFO file, with the UFO technology, that this is the unknown factor.

The fact that the government wants to openly talk about it means they're a doubt. a point where they think that they can fake an alien invasion. There's no question. Or create an alien threat. They already have an office now, Arrow, which is basically a UFO defense office. That's going to breed billions and billions of dollars and is just more and more cover for the genuine thing. And the UN in the past has said they could use a threat of asteroids to build a world government to have the planetary defense or they could just use both or the UFOs.

There's no question about it. And the asteroid thing is interesting because Medvedev. made some interesting comments saying basically we know how to aim it. So they know how to aim these asteroids, you know, so there was an asteroid coming in and it was going to slam and basically cause a nuclear meltdown in Russia. And he said, well, you know, it's okay, we know how to aim it. Well, if you know how to aim it, you know, you can aim it at other people too. Now, I think one of the problems that they have, there's an effect inside the UFO technology, which is called apotheum inside. That's the reference of this thing that takes place in the interaction of it.

You can read it in the earliest UFO cases. And what happens is basically when they send scientists in there, they can only work on this stuff for 20 minutes at a time because their health deteriorates or they go into a mental situation. Their whole cosmic consciousness opens up while they're working on this stuff. So they have 20-minute protocols in 1948 for going in and dealing with a crash craft. Well, when you get later and later into the development of the UFO file, we get less and less information. But that's a gem back there because it gives us an idea that when you interact with the stuff, you change. And this is the nature of the problem, which is I think part of the UFO problem that they've had is they don't know how to aim it exactly right. Is it because it's opening up some type of interdimensional field?

Yes. There's no question about it. This is a very interesting side of it also. because what happens with the whole apotheum effect is, you know, when you read those cases, how many honest people have said, oh, I lost all this time? You know, I was going down the highway. It was eight hours later. Those people have no reason to lie about that. What happens, basically, is it introduces a totally different type of physics, a reality distortion physics.

And when you get into that kind of physics, if you read the cases, there was a professor, a Harvard professor, a psychiatrist named John Mack, who studied the fact. and he said, you know, when people get abducted, they're actually abducted through the wall. They get pulled through things. How do you reason that out if it's a physical happening? So something extra-dimensional is going on. Well, let me tell you a personal story. And listeners, I don't get a parent-in-law to you about stuff, okay? But I've proven it because I've decided to do that more often.

But I would have these dreams when I was a kid where I would wake up nauseous and really whatever. And then it would be something didn't really matter, but a week. later, two weeks later, the exact thing would happen. And I would remember and know it. And then I would have these other events where like, hey, get up, you know, go turn your phone on. It's going to be exactly 4 a.m. And you turn on it. And then it's like, now I want you to listen. This is real. And so I'm like, I'm going to sound crazy doing this.

But then on election night, I feel kind of that feeling. You can actually see me on air. And I go, well, let me, how do I introduce this? And it's like, okay, let's predict when Trump comes out on stage. And I go, 127. And I just stop because, but it's like, it's the same thing. It's like a tap on the shoulder. It's kind of a warm feeling, but kind of like a, you don't want, and I've had that happen a lot.

And you read all the ancient writings and stuff that's described by, you know, mystics in the past, all that. And it's like something's opening up and giving you something. But when it's doing it, you're just like, and that's an experience I've had.

And I've shown people that on air. And I've been basically told, I'm going to do it more. But it's wild. Oh, that is fascinating. Well, I remember you talking, about a relative.

Is it a grandmother? Yeah, my mother's grandmother. And they tried to recruit her as a psychic at a certain. I mean, she was a, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was, she was like presidents would come to see her in Dallas. That is fascinating. Wow. Well, I can tell you this in relation to the psychic side of this on the UFO side, which is, uh, there's a guy named Russell Targ who ran the remote viewing program for the CIA originally and then got away from them when you saw what they were doing with it, uh, including the fact that they bumped off one of his. is psychics.

But what happens is he told me that von Braun came to him and said, we need you to come up with something, which is a way to test the psychic abilities of these NASA astronauts, because I only want the ones with the highest ESP going on these. Oh, then that's true. That's come out. Stay right there. I've talked to high-level NASA guy.

He's dead now. He said that NASA was really a cover. And I talked to the top Microsoft person. It only the same thing that NASA is really a cover for testing psychic abilities. We'll be right back with our special guest, dark journalists. Stay with us, your call straight ahead. Be patient. Once I want to get to you.

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You know, I've described moments in history that only happen every once in a while where I'm not on drugs, totally healthy. It can be in my bedroom, could be in a restaurant, eaten by myself. And all of a sudden, it's kind of like in the Johnny Cash song, cut you down,

where he says, I thought I heard the shovel of the angels' feet. It's not like a schizophrenic thing. I've never had anything. I don't ever hear voices and any of that stuff. Where it's all of a sudden you feel like the presence. You're like, oh, what's going on? And then this is that when I was a kid,

and you know, throughout my life, then you would feel this presence and then be having a mental conversation with it and like, what is that? You can tell it's from outside of you. And then it's like, I'm going to show you this so you know this is real. And then if you, do you want to know more?

And then when I've been on the air a few years, I'll go to calls, folks. It's just when you get into NASA and the whole shadow thing, And they don't want to snow what we really are. It's like, okay, you're doing this. This is good. We're standing for humanity. Stop the depopulation.

We want to protect the children, right? Now, this is going to get rough on you. Do you want to know more? Yes, I want to know, okay, are you sure. We're going to, you know, and then like, here's possible scenarios. It's like, whoa. And then it's, and it is like you are discombobulated. You know, it gets more intense, you know, almost like nauseous.

it's like you're not where you're you're not in this world basically. Like a bridge has been opened. And again, my parents never wanted really tell me about this. I only heard about it here and there. I really should go interrogate my mother. But it's like a weird thing. She really doesn't want to talk about it now. And she's like,

to be a grandfather's very eccentric. And so was, you know, and I knew my great grandmother. She died when I was nine. She lived here in Austin then. I remember going to her funeral all that. I'd go over and see her great oil painter. And she liked drinking Jack Daniels. and you know, my grandfather's dad, it was a very successful businessman.

He died when he was like 50 of a huge heart attack. She remarried this other guy and Clyde. But the point was they would never really, and my grandfather would start telling me stuff sometimes my mother would be like, now, now, dad, you know, your grandfather's just very eccentric. And he was like super new all this stuff. I mean, he was telling me all this stuff when I'm a kid. And before I ever got in politics and stuff, he was going to be like,

you know, you're going to do a whole lot of really important. and change the world and blah, blah, blah. And my mother would be like, Dad, stop it. And so, but the point was they told me, and I also overheard this one as a kid, that literally, like, she was a channeler and that she wasn't like some gypsom the side of the road. It was like, it was just this known thing. And that, like, big, powerful people in Dallas would come to, you know, talk to her. And then they got, around the time he, my grandfather was 50.

and she was, you know, whatever she was 75 or whatever, they just said, like, we're Christians and we're not involved in this anymore, and that's it, and we're not discussing any of this, and this is done, and this is demonic, and we're not involved, and then that was it. I've got to find out more, because my parents don't want to talk about it, but that's, there's a whole undercurrent of this is my point, dark, journals, so I wasn't trying to write myself in the story.

Those are just true stories. No, no, they're very interesting. And the other thing, I think, and you've mentioned it before, which is that von Braun somehow, there was a relative that was related or knew something about. Yeah, that was my grandfather. Yeah, see, that's very interesting. Werner-Rombon came to town, and my grandfather took my mother when she was like five. My uncle, they was like 10, and they went down to UT and there was like a private dinner or something. Yeah.

Well, it's fascinating because his mother, what Targ told me about von Braun is that his mother was psychic. So if von Braun's mother was psychic and she was well known in Germany and they would come to her for everything from national events to weather events or whatever it was, she was that well known on the psychic side. So there is this psychic connection with the aerospace part and, you know, that's why there's a mythology around it. That's why you have Alistair Crowley and Jack Parsons around NASA and the setup of NASA because there's a mystical spirits of the air thing. that's involved and that's why you see Masonic you know, Masonic you know, rituals being

happening on the moon when they land there and Buzz Aldrin doing this you know, whole thing for the Masons. So there's an aspect there, there's a mystical aspect there and the more that they get the public not to talk about it, the more they get to kind of hoard the realizations. But everyone

is basically an antenna for this around the psychic side, some more than others. There's no question about that. It's very interesting. If you go into the Casey readings, they would ask him, you know, because he could just read somebody's name and figure out their ailment and all this other stuff about them. And they would say, where are you getting this information? While he's in trance, he said, from the subconscious mind of the person who asked for the reading. So everyone is sort of a connected thing.

There are all these little towers connected out there in relation to this. One thing I will say about predictions in aerospace is there's a story, and it comes out of Houston, interestingly enough, about a painter named Charles Delshow, who was associated with an early aerospace. is there's a story and it comes out of Houston, interestingly enough, about a painter named Charles Del Shau, who was associated with an early aerospace group called NIMSA. And they were doing much more advanced thing than the Wright brothers. And he was plugged into it and had come over here from Germany. Right in the middle of one of his paintings, which were rediscovered in the 1970s, right in the middle of one of those aeroship paintings is the name Trump. and I've verified this. It's been in an art gallery since 1977.

And on the bottom right, the series is 45 for the art series. You got Trump, the Arrow, and 45. I actually put it up on my TwitterX account. It's right there for everybody. I put it in my recent documentary, the final speech. There's a whole thing in there on deep aerospace. But this level of prediction going on with this guy, Del Shau, who was plugged into a very,

early aerospace group makes you wonder you know we on our side have been able to say well you know we got a certain amount of technology we took the rocket program we plugged it in we got NASA and all the rest of it but how old is it really i mean that's what the public understands and what the public knows what area and what level uh have we taken this and it's not just an ancient aliens kind of trip uh it's a matter of fact there's a very interesting uh saying if you go back there and look at some of the mystery school work you know when they get out of the the question, well, you know, what about this Atlantean technology that's going on with the flying ships that you're talking about that can fly through mountains, not just over them? And they said, can you describe that?

And he said, oh, yeah, you know, actually this is something that Ezekiel saw, but that was a much later date. So that's the Atlantean technology. Somebody kept it from, you know, let's say 10,000, 15,000 BC all the way to 1,000 BC. So the aerospace piece has been handed down through these mystery groups over time. tech figurines that it looks like a 747 within yes yeah absolutely there's no question about it and that's been in the Madrid museum for hundreds of years yes and it's only until we got flight if you look at something like the nasca lines you know nobody even knew that they were there until we got flying and then when somebody's flying over it and they can see the whole thing it's like

oh this map this whole thing with these unusual figures waving you know so the stuff was done 3,000, 4,000 years ago. So we're just rediscovering an ancient history that's been kept from us, but the ministry schools at least think they know it. Let's get to some calls. I can talk to you for 10 hours. You've got to come back more often. We've got to go-hose for you want.

I'm like, why we haven't had dark journalists on? What the hell's going on? Thanks for a caller calling me, that you're great work. I've watched it all the time. Dale, thank you for holding all you. I apologize making you hold, but I want to get to all the callers, but then I don't. Dale in Ohio on war. Go ahead.

What's your take on that situation? All right, Alex. So I actually wanted to say, two things to the viewers. The first being if your average viewer based at say 50 million people were to go to

the Alexjohn store.com and buy one of your guys stickers, just one sticker. If 50 million people bought one sticker, you'd have $540 million that you could fight the deep state, pay your crew, and just make the show

all around better for all of us viewers. So we're not going to sit here. You have my pledge. If I ever got huge, here's the deal. The globalists spend all the money to be in control.

Little people don't spend their money politically. That's why we lose. They finally got up with Trump, finally gave him money. He was able to pay for all the lawyers to stop a lot of the steel. But absolutely,

the globalists don't put their money into things because they're charitable. They do it because they know that's where power is. So I'm not complaining. We literally are reaching, I mean, some days, 100 million people on X,

but I mean, look, just on the radio, five, six, seven million. everywhere and i'm not complaining it's just paradoxical that less than one 10 to 1% actually ever buy anything and i'm right now up against the wall financially be so easy but god likes to keep me i you know i guess on edge so i'm not mad about it i understand it but i appreciate you well let's talk about world war three brother go ahead yeah uh so on the world war three topic i wanted to also uh address to the viewers look out for your caves look out for your caverns look out for anything that you can go underground publicly um obviously

without getting, you know, hurt or getting intervened between the federal government. Those are safe places. Because, I mean, ultimately, it may be out of our control. We may not be able to do anything. They may escalate it before we can even put a stop to it. So for the people that don't really have a bunker or don't really have, you know, a plan, those places are good. And then I just wanted to hit it on a few things. Those money hits to the Fed.

that is what's going to stop it. Once we stop giving them money, because they're raping us in taxes. I mean, it's plain and simple. No, Dale, I hear you. That's part of the exit is pulling out of the system that we can. Thanks for the call. You know, dark journalists, it's a bummer.

I'm taking calls earlier before we came on. People are kind of just saying, well, we're going to have a nuclear war. I hope that's not the case. Do you think NATO's trying to start one, or what's going on? They are definitely taking it to the brink, and it makes you wonder if they don't have this ability to launch nuclear weapons without the fallout aspect because they're acting so easy and free and you're seeing these articles come out like saying, hey, you know, a nuclear war, we could still get by with that.

It's not as scary as you think. Those are the Atlantic put out an article like that. Totally absurd. And when you think about it too, when I have looked into the nuclear aspect, the nuclear aspect is actually very dangerous but very old technology. and this is part of the problem, which is the really advanced stuff, beyond nuclear, so far beyond nuclear, that they don't want to reveal that aspect. So we're still stuck at the stage of looking at each other with nuclear weapons and saying, hey, you know, if you make this action, you're incurring nuclear wrath and all the rest of it. We are so in such a situation in Ukraine, I think, where they have just pushed it through the Biden administration, this group that's behind the Biden administration.

and he's on his way out. For them to be taking these provocative moves are unprecedented in history. It has never happened before that we have a president on his way out starting a war. Absolutely. Yeah, they're wrapping it up usually and they're doing this whole program. What's interesting to me is that if they were willing to give up a nuclear side as far back as 1987 and go to what they call the zero option, they had a whole program for getting rid of every nuclear weapon. That means they've had the technology perfected at least that law.

And this is the nature of the problem. That's why the public is in such a schizophrenic kind of state with the leadership right now when you look at it. Because you have the advanced technology in their hands. The public doesn't know anything about it. And this is the back and forth that's going on. So they're making decisions based on what they actually have. And we're in the public looking at it saying, hey, aren't you risking nuclear war with this? Well said.

Let's take another call. George and Connecticut. Go ahead. Hi, Alex. Yeah, I was wondering why we shouldn't call all of our congressmen senators and all the other people in the government and remind them of their duty that the Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, requires Congress to be the only department that can declare war. And anybody else moving to that end is a trader because their job is to keep us safe. Their job is to keep us from war and also keep our economy from destruction. And they're doing everything in their mind to do exactly that. And they had their oath of office, which is five U.S. Code 331, oath of office, that basically gives their oath

to us, not a continuity of government, not to senators and congressmen, but to us and our benefit. And the benefit is not a nuclear war and the destruction of the United States. And I think Mike Flynn would be a perfect envoy to Russia and the European Union, maybe even the UN, to basically, if Trump could send him there, and basically, to hammer this out and prevent this war from happening since he's not been picked for any important cabinet posts. This would be a very person to use for that. Excellent point. And to dark journalist's point, they're acting like they're not worried about nuclear war,

saying that we know they have clean bombs, not as neutron bombs. But in all those scenarios, that will make the regular nuclear reactors meltdown that are ultra-dirty. So you just can't do it. It's totally psychotic. Thank you, George. Let's talk to Mike and Otto. It's been holding a long time, Mike. I actually missed your call there.

Somehow I'd have been holding too long. I apologize. Mike and Otto, you're on the air on World War III. Go ahead. No worries, Alex. How you doing, man? A long time listener, first time caller. I've been listening to you 20 years, man.

Love you guys. Love you, too. Joe Biden has to be impeached, man. We have to impeach him now. I was really excited to hear the legal scholar last week. Documents have been drafted. Instead of sitting around all week and getting fat people, we need to call Congress.

Let's blow their phones up this weekend. We need to impeach him. We need him out. He is the one giving the missiles to Ukraine. There are no clean bombs. We will all have blood on our hands if those bombs dropped. And this has to be addressed. If we don't take care of Joe Biden,

we deserve to be bombed as far as I'm concerned. He's got to go, man. Absolutely. Our journalist, Daniel, what do you think? I mean, I'm surprised Trump hasn't made statements answer in the last few ways. Yeah, it's interesting. Trump, you mentioned that he should go out and use that bully pulpit now, and this is a

crucial period where he's in between. So he's president-elect, and he has the ability to do that. They have not been rocking the boat enough, in my opinion, around the war effort. They may be doing a lot in the background. You pointed that out, and I'm sure that they are. But nonetheless, I think that they should say, look, we're look for a peaceful resolution in Ukraine and all of this war. talk and the provocations, you know, we're taking it down a notch.

And I implore both sides, this administration and the Putin side to take the heat down. Well, that's the right move. And it's a perfect day before Thanksgiving message. I mean, if he doesn't do it by tomorrow, I'm going to start getting worried, Daniel. I know. I know. I can appreciate it. And I think we are in a time of kind of maximum peril because they are being pushed in

pushed and pushed and pushed. And so we're in a very dangerous state. And I think that when you're looking at the time, the combination, you know, I go back to the fact that we had this very unusual incident with Trump being assassinated, you know, twice. The assassination attempts went down on both occasions. And on one of those occasions, the Secret Service director who, you know, around the Thomas Matthew Crook's thing, set up all the really bad setup and defense and security. So all the security stripping that was going on with the Secret Service stand down at that incident in Butler. it's very interesting to me because if you go into her past a little bit,

you're going to find that she was Dick Cheney's Secret Service person, and she's the one who dragged him into the COG bunker during 9-11. So the COG aspect has operated and continues to operate, and it's very interesting that it always seems represented at key points in these deep events, for example, the assassination. I think that the COG group in particular looks at, Trump is the ultimate threat and they are ready to stand in whether or not he's been elected. And they have the perfect opportunity through the announcement of emergency powers.

I think the road to that announcement is very tricky for them and that they on the inside would prefer not to do it, but they're ready to do it. I totally agree. Here's the most important point. I want to take on. We'll take it for more calls. Daniel. We've never seen them rolling it out and beta testing and introducing it like we are now. I mean, this looks like that they're getting ready to unveil it.

We just don't know the exact scenario or what that civil emergency, national emergency scenario would be, but they really are hyping. Power outages to be blamed on the Russians, something along those lines. Exactly. The Russian cyber attack, you know, this whole thing. I think that they've put us in a very interesting position also with all the emergency aspects, because what happens is we go into a situation where they have a number of options that they can tap. They've gotten a lot of data back from this. For example, on the UFO side, when they did

the whole thing about, oh, Northcom is looking at this, we're shooting down UFOs, which was an actual headline in the New York Times. If you think about that, you know, and the openness that they have around the UFO subject in Congress, it is unnerving in that sense, not that they're giving out real genuine disclosure. There's two versions of disclosure there, the real thing, and then CIA disclosure. But the fact that they're going into it means they have a plan to roll the thing out. you see people who are in key positions like Marco Rubio, for example, who was really big on getting this UFO defense office going. A lot of them, interestingly enough, are coming out of Florida as well.

But for me, when I look at that, I say, well, they're looking at rolling out one of those scenarios and they're kind of vying for which scenario would work on the emergency side. Whoever's running the Biden administration is trying to get all this accomplished before Trump gets in. And this is also why they rolled out the UFO hearing a week after. after the election. They're trying to institute a program and probably move materials as well before Trump gets in and then has access to the whole thing.

Absolutely. They're moving on a lot of stuff in Ukraine as well. Yes, exactly. Well, they want the whole piece with Ukraine. They want to make that some kind of new Jerusalem, right? This is what their goal is. And for me, when I look at what's going on there, the amount of risks that they've taken have been completely off the charts and show that whoever's operating in the background

has reached a level of desperation for control that I think is very dangerous on our side. So this period now that we're looking at between here and the inauguration is probably the most dangerous period. It's more dangerous for Trump in that sense even than the election. And there's clearly admitted different factions battling, and Musk and Trump regardless represent a attempt to say the ruling class is out of control, their world government is going to get us all killed. You can't cut the resources off the planet and then process out the population.

That's going to trigger wars. People know about the plan. It's not going to work. I mean, it looks like we want to be pessimist. Trump and Musk are like an abort switch on the globalist plan or at least breaks. Yes. No question about it.

Well, the key thing is the Kennedy Alliance that Kennedy's in there and helped get Trump over the top. This is a very interesting aspect because when you look at that alliance, that must send absolute reverberations through the deep state on that. Because, you know, for a while they were at odds sort of playing off against each other. But as soon as that assassination attempt happened, they really became a single unit. And I think this aspect with Kennedy is interesting because Kennedy, on his side, has the background of John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy's UFO knowledge. And their knowledge around the UFO file, Trump, through Uncle Trump, has the knowledge of the UFO file.

and the Tesla files. So the merging of those two things together, you know, never mind the whole populist political presentation, which is good on its own, but the merging of that knowledge and information that they have, I think makes them, you know, if you look at that breakaway ex-protect group, looking at that, they're terrified because they will,

when they get in office, they'll both be looking at, you know, the ability to extract those programs out of the deep structure. This is the nature of the problem. When they look at Trump, they say, we don't want to deal with him. He's Roy Cohn's inside man. Roy Cohn knew where every deep state body was buried.

You're right. Ran the House of the American's Activity Committee. Darkjournalist. Thank you so much, darkjournalist. Let's get you back on the next few weeks. I don't know, your amazing guest. I love to have a guest those sometime. Tell us when you want to come on the next few weeks.

Hopefully we're still here. God bless you, sir. Fantastic. I would love to do it. And Viva Info Wars. It's great to be with. We appreciate you. Find his films and more to cite.

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