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Episode Date: April 21, 2025

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It's Monday, April 21st, 2025. The globalist Pope is dead. Kahn Schwab is officially fled to the WF. And a lot more hell's breaking days. Info Wars, tomorrow's news today. SJW, Jesuit Pope, is dead. At 88, died just hours after meeting with U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance. and to say that Pope Francis was the ultimate globalist Pope so far is putting it lightly,

absolutely supporting every major policy of the globalist open borders, world government, carbon taxes, all of it, but that entire plan is falling apart. And there is major moves in the Cardinals of the Vatican to replace him with a conservative and more traditional Catholic. a major bellwether of the globalist system continuing to be in total retreat. And Klaus Schwab six months ago resigned as the chairman of the World Economic Forum. Then he was still on the board. Now he's completely left the W.E.F. in another total retreat. Think of how far we've come from just a few Easters ago with Biden wandering around

with an Easter bunny mindlessly on the grounds of the... White House and declaring Easter transgender day and saying nothing about Christianity, nothing about Christ, just absolutely bizarre like you were on 10 hits of acid. Biden with two Easter bunnies and his former 14-year-old babysitter that he's been with since he was 14, off and on when he's not with his daughter in the shower. So just think about how far we've come. Multiple states are moving now and a lot. Let same-sex couples adopt children

because we know they'll target them on average for transgender mutilation. There is so much happening today. And we have something I've said for a long time. You've got the left pushing reparations for people for slavery 180 years ago. That's not in the law. law, you or yourself weren't a victim. The people that did the victimization are alive. But what about everybody victimized by the Democratic Party letting in the illegal aliens and the unprecedented crime sprees? Well, that could be reparations of the companies, NGOs, and groups

that supported it. And that has real teeth in it. See, reparations are supposed to be for people that were actually hurt. And nobody's been hurt more by the illegal alien surge than black people. and Hispanic, predominant Hispanic neighborhoods that have seen the majority of the suffering from the crime. That's coming up. Massive war developments on every front. Jamie Raskin making huge new threats about, oh, we're going to get everybody when we get back into power. We're not going to look kindly on you. And we already know about your persecution.

You're the ones that started it. We're not persecuting you. we're retaliating to your tyranny. The Trump administration is on the war path, releasing massive amounts of secret documents on every front you can imagine, current, past, recent past. It is just amazing 91 days into the new Trump administration. But first, here's President Trump's pre-Easter message about the risen God Christ. On Easter Sunday, we celebrate his glorious resurrection and proclaim, as Christians have done for nearly

2,000 years, he is risen. Through the pain and sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, we saw God's boundless love and devotion to all humanity. And in that moment of his resurrection, history was forever changed with the promise of everlasting life. As we approach this joyous Easter Sunday, I want to wish Christians everywhere a happy and beautiful and blessed holiday. America is a nation of believers. We need God. We want to wish Christians everywhere. We want to be a happy and beautiful and blessed holiday. America is a nation of believers, we need God, we want God, and with his help, we will make our nation stronger, safer, greater, and more prosperous, and much more united than ever before. Thank you to everyone and have a really happy Easter.

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I hope to Jesus. Theulation keeps on breeding. Nation is funny. The 91st day into the 92nd day of the new Trump administration. Pope Francis died earlier today, just shortly after the Easter holiday ended, hours after he met with the U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance, that's creating its own baseless rumors. I don't call it conspiracy theories. That's a term the CIA on record came out in the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings in the late 70s, the church committee hearings. They couldn't cover up the fact the government killed Kennedy.

So they said anytime we're challenged the real knowledge and facts, don't debate the people spewing facts, just call it a conspiracy theories. The headlines are, conspiracy theorist. Just think J.D. Vance killed the Pope. No, that's called a baseless rumor. So they'll also use the term conspiracy theory on things like

the earth is flat or, you know, ridiculous things. And then they'll also apply it to serious things like there were no WMDs in Iraq, and it was all a big lie to get us into war. So say the conspiracy terrorists. No. So say the informed, involved, engaged individuals, taking control of our own destiny and using the most powerful thing in the universe that God gave us, truth, which is what flows from God.

All right. Obviously, all the numbers show what you see at the streets. There is a global political and cultural and spiritual awakening. Christianity being dormant for so long is seeing a massive revival, not so much in the churches or institutions, but in individual hearts and minds and souls. And we've had a lot of big developments over the Easter weekend and a lot to talk about.

But let me, I always say I'll do this and I never succeed. But I'm going to do it today. Let me just mention what's coming out. I'm going to plow through it quickly. Pope Francis dead at 88. Who will be the next Pope from Ukraine envoy to cardinal who turned on Francis? We have the head of the WEF who already stepped down as the head of it. Klaus Schwab now completely.

exiting the WEF. What does that signify? Oh, it's huge. Mega-maga bombshell, Supreme Court Justice Alito slams colleagues for middle of the night ruling against Trump deporting Venezuelan illegals in the aftermath of that.

Tying together with that, New Mexico Democrat judge resigns after ICE arrest at ledge Venezuelan gang member of TDA in his home, and we've looked into the guy. Major major training at gun ranges with other groups with the judge making TDA hand signs.

It's bad. And of course, what did I tell you years ago? And what did the dictator of Venezuela say a few months ago? He said, listen, we don't want sanctions. Biden said he took the sanctions off of us three and a half years ago. If we would send all of our gang members from TDA to the U.S., they work for the CIA not us, which is partially true. That's why Trump's declared them terror groups,

because the deep states running them, the Democrats are running them, and there's a long history of this back to the Crips, and the Bloods and Freeway Rick Ross, not the rapper, the guy he stole the name from, who on record was selling $45 million a day of cocaine out of L.A. across the U.S. for the CIA. Gary Webb, of course, broke that and was killed.

the journalist. And that's just a microcosm of how the CIA recruits and controls these gang groups and these distributors. They'll have a businessman like Rick Ross, total businessman, totally professional, over the major gangs. The bosses report to him, he reports the CIA. That's the same thing with MS-13, TDA, all of them. It's on record. I mean, Buchelly talks about it, but before Buckelly ever got elected four years ago, we had guest on. that MS-13 was created in the late 80s in LA

and then got turned into a CIA operation as soon as Clinton got in, and they used them as international crime syndicate. So I'm already getting into it, but I got a bunch on that because you've got to understand this. That's why Pelosi famously six years ago called MS-13 God's children. That's what they use for the human smuggling.

We've had whistleblowers from the Border Patrol, ICE on where they were the facilitators for the cartels who started working together in the last four years completely under Biden to deliver the kids up here and then they're just disappeared. I mean

this has been a major organized crime operation, the lights of which the world's never seen and it's really starting to dawn on people. So we're going to be getting into all of that and that ties into White House Deputy

Chief of Staff, Stephen Miller, calls reparations for damage caused by mass migration. Well, that's real reparations. Because a reparation is for something that's actually happened to you at the hands of a group or individual. You don't get reparations from somebody's grandson because their grandpa did something to their grandpa. That's not in the law. But American citizens under the attacks of the NGOs, Democratic Party, others absolutely do it. I know the White House is serious

about that. I told you before Trump even got in that there was talk by the advisors to Trump about doing that. So that's a good move. Sees those organizations and groups, take their money and then distribute it to the victims. We will also continue

with the globalist attempts to crash the stock market that are ongoing right now. U.S. stock futures dollar Treasuries Tumble on Powell, punt, panic, gold, Bitcoin soar. Gold is at an all-time high right now and just continuing to climb. We're going to be looking at some of those numbers and breaking those down for you as well here today. Also, we have very important developments taking place.

in Ukraine and Putin attempting a ceasefire over the weekend and what happened there. We have the big news that's broken in the last two weeks that President Trump told Netanyahu no, you are not going to strike Iran and if you do, we're not going to defend

you. And I learned that even before it broke, just incredible. And to see it actually carried out, but now Israel run by Netanyahu doesn't care. Exclusive Israel still eyeing a limited attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, hoping they respond, or Netanyahu or another group could stage a false flag and claim Iran did it. So we are very, very, very, very close to peace, but there are a lot of really out-of-control forces that don't want that. All right.

I want to look at what's currently happening with the border and those new developments there. Then I'm going to get into the Pope and his death along with Plas Schwab fleeing the W.F., which is a real sign of the accelerated retreat of the globalist on every front. It was also the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. which is a cut and drive false flags. I want to revisit that some today. And we have a special guest who really has been one of the top experts covering it since it happened. That's William F. Jasper from the New American Magazine.

He wants to come on about that, which is an important subject. But I want to get him back on this week or next week on just the history of the globalist, where they are, his view on what's happening, and just where we are historically and what this new international order is, what the good news is, what the bad news is, because you really can't have somebody smarter than the editor of the New American magazine. But here is the Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller on reparations for damage caused by mass migration. I tell you, I fancy myself as a really good ranter because I can do it with precision, just hammer, hammer, hammer.

But this is beyond a rant. This is a turn to force of truth. Here it is. For the love of God, where are the damages for Americans? Where do I even begin? Where do I even start? We used to have a functioning public school system in this country. Then we had open borders.

Now our schools are in chaos and disarray. We need hundreds of translators. Nobody's learning how to read or write. An entire generation of Americans, multiple generations in fact have been robbed of educational opportunities. Entire cities, look at Los Angeles. Once a paradise of safety, security, and prosperity. Entire neighborhoods occupied and controlled by foreign gangs. Where do all the residents who've been displaced, who've been forced out of Los Angeles?

where do they go to get their reparations? And then what about the victims of fentanyl poisoning brought in by Democrats' open border? Hundreds of thousands of moms and dads whose kids are dead and buried in the ground? Where do they go to get their reparations from the government? And then all the women who have been raped, who've been beaten, who've been murdered,

all the dads who have been shot dead and aren't home, all the police officers who've been slain by illegal aliens in ambush attacks in the line of duty? Where do any of these people go? Where do any of their families go to get reparations? Or the half a million children that Joe Biden trafficked across the southern border and put into the hands of unvetted so-called sponsors? Do you know me stories I could tell you of children that were trafficked across the border and raped

because of the policies of Joe Biden? There aren't enough volumes that could fit into a library to calculate the carnage that has been inflicted by the Democrat Party's policy of open borders. has been the rest of our lives trying to document those harms. Where does our whole country go to get repaid for all of the wealth, all of the prosperity and security that has been stolen from us by decades of uncontrolled illegal mass migration? Because we all deserve reparations for what has been stolen from us. It is a tragedy that defies our ability to even describe it.

Preach, brother. I love it. Well, it's the truth. So under common law, there is no way for people that have been dead for hundreds of years to pay money to people in the future for what happened to their ancestor. You know, the reason there's a statue of limitations on almost every crime of 10, 20, 30 years is because it's easy to make up stuff about people or exaggerated or twist it. Years later, nobody remembers the proof's gone. But the idea of reparations is even more cynical than the Democrats pushing the idea of free health care, free education.

Oh, we're going to forgive your student loans. They just dangle that out there as a lie. You're never going to actually get it. But I know the administration's been talking about this behind the scenes. I told you about it six months ago. Reparations against the NGO. against the Democratic Party, against the UN, against companies that have been involved in human trafficking,

fentanyl, and bringing any illegal aliens that have committed rape, murder, crime, arson, you name it. And I think it is an excellent, excellent idea and needs to be done. I mean, that's happened a lot in even our current law. If somebody's got money and they say, kill your daughter or son. Well, when they're found guilty, in many cases they get a long prison sentence and a big fine. And then the money, at least a lot of it,

is paid to the victims of their survivors. That's what we need to see. And we need to explain this to leftist minions that really think that, oh, if we just had a Bernie Sanders, everything would be equal and you'd have all these free goodies. That's not the way it works. if you take other people's wealth to give it to others, other people stop producing because they're not getting their own wealth.

You can take some of people's wealth and redistribute it, but that always brings in more political control, and it's very, very dangerous, and you see where it gets us today. Now, if you remember, the dictator of Venezuela, Lula, a couple months ago, right when Trump got in, the headline, we want to pull it up with the video is, Venezuela's Lula surrenders to Trump.

It's a Breitbart headline. It's dead on. And then there's the three-minute video of him. We've already played it a bunch here. Won't play it again. You just pull it up. And he says, listen, your FBI has the documents. We have the documents. He says TDA did not come from us. It was set up in the West.

And Biden told us he'll take the sanctions off our oil if we send them here. Well, I already knew that back of the time. It was unofficial, but that's what's happening. Because the Democratic Party uses MS-13, uses TDA to be their ground-level enforcers. And it goes through the NGOs, through double-agent beds in ICE. There's not a lot of them. There's some. And in the FBI, they've been caught, just like the gangs put their own people in the military

and then have their own operatives inside. But it goes both ways. And then the orders come down to the NGOs, the law firms, into then a business-manage. like a Rick Ross who came out was working for the CIA for over a decade 45 million a day

and cocaine alone that was backed in numbers talking about like 500 million today or something incredulous one operative and he was a professional businessman

and then it went down all through those layers through the different gangs and things with the capos below him and that's why you see Nancy Pelosi

saying these are all God's children we protect him that's why you see this idiot Democrat senator out of Maryland running down there to meet with this known on record. The documents will come out. MS-13 operative is because these are their people. And you talk about a 95-5 issue. People keep calling it an 80-20.

20 percent of people don't support MS-13. I doubt 5 percent do. New Mexico Democrat judge resigns after ICE arrest alleged TDA gang member in his home. And just to boil the whole thing down, the illegal came in two years ago, the legal pass, was living with the judge. The judge was helping him with his immigration status. And there was a raid on the judge's home. And this reported TDA guy's pretty high level. And the judge is a former police officer and paramilitary himself.

And now there's all these videos and photos coming out of what appears to be a bunch of, of other TDA things, people, and the judge doing not just shooting range stuff, but tactical drills. And this is where the investigation we're now learning started, because law enforcement saw the tattoos, saw these guys, and saw them doing, you know, military drills and doing them well. And we're like, run those plates. Oh, it's a judge.

Well, let's go check. Oh. Now, I'm going to explain this again. I mean, we've explained this for years. It's not going to just not saying this. I remember 20-something years ago discovering that you would have the local Democratic Party immigration judges and the immigration lawyers. And then they would get caught, but they would get put under the rug, but they hit the paper once. In one case, the mayor's brother had a dungeon in his house with a bunch of illegals locked up because they weren't paying enough money to get out.

They'd been smuggled here. And that's 25 years ago. You look it up. Austin Mayor's brother, immigration lawyer, caught with imprisoned migrants in Dungeon. And you just see it constantly in the news. Constantly, they're catching in L.A. and San Antonio and Chicago and Houston, where they've got the gang enforcers and they've got the men, women, and children who they control. And they sign them up for welfare, sign them up for tax rebates so they're not owed.

But the illegals, on average, aren't even getting hardly any of the money. They are an exploited slave class. And the biggest one is people to speak Spanish, because they come from the countries with the gangs. They already know to live under the gangs. And basically, the CIA was in control of El Salvador from the 2000s on because it helped organize MS-13 and then give it funding and protection and move it down there.

And now it's all over the world, over 60 countries. So when Trump declares them terrorists, he's not just cutting off their money. He's cutting off the deep state Democrat Party slash Republican system. Because back under George Herbert Walker Bush and Ronald Reagan, and Reagan didn't know. I know the folks involved, talked to a lot of them, but Reagan was compartmentalized. But George Herbert Walker went and set this up because they'd already run these gangs in Latin America for their operations there. And the excuse is, well, we're going to have the gangs deal drugs here, so we have money for clandescent operations. Just like Obama got caught with tens of millions.

of dollars a week, millions of millions of guns, billions total of the U.S. government shipping millions of guns. This was over $2 million to Mexico to be sold by the drug cartels in the global market to be shipped where? To the Middle East to attack Syria. Took them 15 years, but they finally overthrew Syria a few months ago and used the weapons from the withdrawal in Afghanistan that was done on purpose, tens of billions of weapons, which they admit then showed up.

and we're given to Turkey and others to attack Syria. Well, now, why am I going here? I'm going to finish up now and come back into other subjects. You heard General Flynn on a few weeks ago, and I was to confirm us another high-level source. He talked to high-level government people in the NSA tracker computer systems. Let's leave it at that, with multiple high-level pangs that the deep state, the globalist, working with the Ukrainian-connected groups,

that's where they cut the money out and sent it over their back, we're targeting a large list of key people, including myself and General Flynn. He had talked about himself in the story, but he's a target as well. I'll say large number. It was over 30. But previously we're only targeted at a lower level.

This is the highest level below the president. So we've now been included in a group that was only reserved for the president and his family. The open bounty on us to the drug cartels. So, and I explained back then, I said, these Democrat judges, these Democrat lawmakers, these Democrat mayors, they are literally running these groups as field commanders on the ground. And they are preparing, when activated with some social justice excuse, illegal aliens getting killed a demonstration or something, it'll be the perfect trigger. They've already hyped up saying it's imminent with no evidence because they're going to do it. Then they'll blame a Trump supporter, and then they activate the terror gangs.

the TDA, the MS-13, the rest of them, the Black Lives Matter, the Antifa, and they burn the country now in this summer, which they now admit is their plan. So the fact that this is getting caught and exposed is very, very good and great job of local law enforcement that noticed this in New Mexico. New Mexico is one of their strongholds, by the way.

It's bad. I mean, it's globalist mafia run. So be ready for that. Understand they've got this thing set up and ready to go, but it's been seriously exposed and it's badly coordinated. and it's falling apart. So that's certainly good news on that front.

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The sleeper has awoken. All right now. I want to get into the Pope. I want to get into the fleeing of Klaus Schwab that's so huge in a moment and I want to get into the economy,

but let me just finish up with the criminal networks that the Democrat Party and the globalist CIA have been running and using. Now, if you studied history, you already know all this, but if you go back to ancient Rome, more importantly than the Praetorian Guard

that protected the emperor or the Caesar, that wore the dark blue It's where you get blue uniforms for police today. It was the mob. It was the mafia. It was the gangs that represented different monopolies over grain

or over weapons or over heating oil over textiles. And they would ally with each other, be different groups that they were all over different groups in the Senate. They would change their formations all the time. And they would go out and kill people

or burn people out that they didn't like. And we got the world's first fire departments in Rome. Look up the history of fire departments. You had to pay them protection, or they would burn you out. You don't think the modern Italian mafia got the thing of pay us protection or somebody who'll burn down your grocery store. You don't think they just invented that in Sicily, do you? So, and Zabini Brzezinski wrote multiple books about this,

even in the 70s, admitting how the U.S. government controlled the major crime networks worldwide. And his argument was, well, other governments will control the crime networks if we don't control the crime networks. Injustifies the mean stuff. And so the main cartels aren't run by the CIA, but they're working with them. They fund them. When they got aligned, they get destroyed. There'll be new alliances. The Cinaloa has the oldest alliance with the CIA.

And so now you have MS-13 and you have TDA and these other groups that are openly their history with the CIA and the U.S. government. and it's all come out. And then the Democrats use Venezuela, which is one of the richest countries in Latin America with all its oil, and its communist operations and its voting machines to project power in as well. So Venezuela's bad. The leader of it's bad. We're not saying he's good.

But what we're saying is this is how it works. Democrats helping Mexican cartels up and down human pipeline, Washington Times. That's an old story. Remember the New York Times a few months ago? Why Trump declaring drug cartels terrorists could be bad for the stock market? That's what Catherine Austin Fitz. Former deputy head of HUD always talks about. Venezuela's Maduro calls U.S. deportation of migrants until Salvador and kidnapping. Bax calls for their return. But he also came in a few months ago and said, look, we don't run TDA.

The U.S. government does. Which is a fact. yeah there it is Morduro surrenders to Trump but clings to power goes on to admit all of that and then there's a video embedded there so this is a big deal that Trump is declaring him terrorists because

that means the big banks cannot launder that money anymore and that means Trump isn't just cutting off the USAID money the CIA gets or the EPA money they get or the other agencies that siphoned it off that's really about the CIA so powerful because it's budgets not just what it

publicly gets every year, but all the other little subgroups it controls that's on record. And that was, again, on record in the Senate hearings of the 70s. And that model only been around for 15 years or so, USA and the rest of it, but already then. So Trump is really cutting off the globalist blood supply, their oxygen supply. And at first, Madero said he wouldn't accept it. accepting the flights and Trump put huge sanctions on him so that he backed off within 24 hours.

But it's not just the Latin American gangs, though they're the most organized, the most professional that are out openly operating. You've got Hezbollah that has huge sleeper cells in Europe and the United States. I mean, 100,000 in the U.S., a couple hundred thousand in Europe. Those are very conservative numbers from, let's just say, very good sources. and they get activated by Iran, you're going to see attacks that are going to make 9-11 look like a cakewalk. And of course, there's the real problem. The global's can do a false flag like 9-11 and say Iran did it.

And that could be happening imminently. We're now in the total danger zone. That's coming up. Israel's saying, look, we're still going to hit Iran, even though Trump said he won't support Israel if they do. Well, how's Israel going to do something super unpopular, even in their own? country and get us on board they think well there's going to be something like October 7th where Israel stood down does it take away from what Hamas funded by Hezbollah did but you're we're in prime time prime zone for a false flag to expand the

Ukraine war and Israel wanting to expand its war with Iran into Iran proper so this is a big deal again we're tomorrow's news today you're not hearing hearing this being really discussed anywhere, nobody's putting the pieces together. But when I talk to not just General Flynn, but the White House high-level folks and others, they're watching the show and they say, you are dead on. And I say, well, you got any info for me? Just that you, it's like you're in our meetings. It's 100% you're right.

You're 100% right. Well, you got the info for me? No, I mean, we always wonder how you seem to know stuff for we do. No, it's basically, so we got our head in the game. We know what's going on. And the good news is local law enforcement's watching, state law enforcement's watching. A lot of the Fed nest of globalists have been disrupted, shut down, or defunded. And so it's very hard, but the globalists actually run a coordinated operation on us that they were planning.

They had their people in place more in 2020. And if Trump could have beaten the fraud, they were going to go with the, staged racial-based uprising that would be the cover for a globalist coup over America that would coincide right before with a crashing of the stock market. And they said that was their plan publicly, as we've covered

thousands of times. And then they started saying months before the last election, if Trump won, they would go to that plan and they're trying to activate it. They're trying to crash the market. They've had some success. Not as much as they wanted. They're trying to heat up and authorize and prepare their groups.

But they need something much bigger than George Floyd. For the corporate media to hype it and then try to get the general public out rioting some. That's the cover to make it look grassroots for the real professional teams that are going to do assassinations of major Trump supporters, major terror attacks, knock out the power. The globalists can knock out the power in areas. Just claim right wingers did it. Because remember, you're not just going to have the communist, globalist, Islamic drug cartel combined axis of evil strike force.

that's the cover itself of the deep state with its kill switches and power plants relay systems computer systems communication systems transportation systems to hit those to completely tank the market plunge a lot of the U.S. into darkness and then say it's Trump's fault but they got to crash the market first successfully I mean massively they won't do this if they're not able to do that that's their go point that they need that first then they'll have right-wingers, stage terror attacks, or you'll say we did, that is the pretext, the racial attacks on illegal alien protests and things like that, black churches, colleges, you name it,

to then go to full burn the country down, knock the power out, and blame Trump. And at that point of Trump's hanging on, the globalist will fly a big drone in with a nuke on it. They could fly one in and have it detonate a few miles from the White House, and that'll knock out most of communications and defense systems. And then another one comes, and they'll have 10 of them lined up with nukes. However many they need, they plan to get him. They can be it in Marlago, you name it. And I'm just laying out probable approximation scenarios for my battle war game system that is my mind,

that is constantly updating with all the latest information, historical context, sources, analysis, methods. So I got all this other incredible news, but you notice every day I spend at least 10, 15, 20, minutes on this because this is the big enchilado, ladies and gentlemen. And it's the only move they got left. And what did I tell you? I said, going into March, going into April, they're going to really try to crash the market. They got the put options in. They're going to target Tesla.

I told you before they even blew up that Tesla truck to signal it that that was the beginning of that. The swatting. That's just the background smoke so that when the real attacks come, they can, again, say it's really grassroots. roots. They're responding to the massive false flag of someone shooting up hundreds of illegal aliens at an illegal alien demonstration, truck bombing them, you name it. And I said they'll start hyping Oklahoma City again more than usual, not just the anniversary, but period right before they do it. Now you saw massive hype of it over the weekend, which you didn't hear the last few years.

So all the little key data points of what I would do if I was them, they're doing it. and I would advise them to not go ahead with it because their plan will not succeed now in ever putting them back in power but it could succeed in triggering a nuclear war or a total breakdown of society that we don't come out of and that's why this is so dangerous and again a complex society that's so

just on time delivery in all of this that's already precarious you disrupt it bad enough It took thousands of years to build up to this point. And you derail something this complex. It is a major, major problem. And the global lockdowns for three years in the third world. It's only a year or so here in the West, a year and a half, two years, depending where you were. That's already derailed their economies.

That's already collapsing them. Now we're getting flooded, which I told you what happened. It's all part of a larger destabilization plan the globalist admit. It's a great reset. The post-industrial world operation. All right, let me finish. on this. It's just, I sit here and I look at the urgency situations, the urgency issues, and I just can't help but go back to me what is most important. And I got Raskin is one top

thinkers. You can say that. That's what he is, him as famous communist father. He's at the council of table with the globalist scheming, and then he's sent off to do Satan's will. But he's like, anybody helping Trump, anybody doing this, we're going to come back to power and we're not going to look kindly on you. We're going to get you. I've got that video. He's threatened in foreign governments. He's threatening us domestically.

G.C. Ping's threatening us. Americans. He's threatening any country or individuals that work with us. I mean, look, this is asymmetrical war. It's going down. Okay? They're not giving up. I told you just as sure as the sun rose this morning and sure it's going to set.

I said they're going to start trying to shut the market down in mid-March. And just like clockwork. March 14th, they hit, and they've been battering, ramming the economy and the stock market and confidence since then. And now the Federal Reserve's weighed in and just bad-mouthed Trump and tariffs in the economy and pledging resistance to Trump and America. I mean, that's unprecedented. In the past, the Federal Reserve said one thing bad about the economy, it would plunge. But because they've lost so much credibility and Trump has so much, we're still holding up. This was the USS Enterprise and a Star Trek analogy, the Sheper.

Shields are holding, but they're down to 50%. And if we just sit here getting dov-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-s. They're going to fall. We're going to get some big hits. We've got to go on offense. We need high-level indictments yesterday. We need Trump directly talking about the enemy plan as surrogates are already doing it. I mean, we need to get hardcore now.

But here's a special report that just got filed today with the Soros operation trying to get, again, race war triggered up in Dallas. So even if it's George Floyd, who's accidentally killed, dies of an overdose in his own coroner's report, and they suppress that. They use that to burn half the country down and hype up folks into a little mini-race war. Well, now they've got a black young man killing a white young man. The media is spinning it.

The father forgiving him. The dad throwing him out of a press conference. And they're not trying to use that that the white people are bad. So even when a white person gets killed, it somehow we're bad. That is all globalist soros siops. Here's the report on it. Hats off to Patrick Howley at Patrick Reports for an explosive deep dive into the shadowy dealings surrounding the Carmelo Anthony case. What's unfolding in Dallas is a textbook example of left-wing manipulation.

With billionaire George Soros's fingerprints all over it, the next generation action network, a radical activist group, is at the heart of this controversy, and their ties to Soros-funded organizations are impossible to ignore. But for those of you new to the story, somehow, Carmelo Anthony, a 17-year-old accused of first-degree murder after fatally stabbing Austin Metcalf at a high school track meet, is being propped up as a victim of racist society. What do you hope to see with this trial? Do you hope to see him walk free or go to jail? If you guys in like a personal opinion, I just want to be home regardless. You want to be home? Even if you did it, you want to be home?

Like I saw, I brought seeing people that look like you get incarcerated for everything. You don't care if he did it or not. Me personally, not. Me personally, I don't care. Released on reduced bond by a self-proclaimed DEI judge, Anthony's now lounging in a gated Texas community, bankrolled by a suspicious Help Carmelo official fund that's raked in over 400,000.

$150,000 on give-s-and-go. The donations, as Patrick Howley and the Dallas Express uncovered, reek of coordination, identical messages, similar amounts dropping at all hours. Leading the charge is Dominique Alexander. All of the funds that were raised on the go fund me were all fraud. fraud. The next generation action network's founder who is stoking the racial flames with hashtags like hashtag Amera KKK and hashtag colonialism.

So after today, I just want the media to know and I want the public to know. I don't care what you say about me. I've been in this thing for 11 years. I am tried, tested, and proven. I'm going to say, I'm from Oak Cliff. Worse or things have been said about me, baby. You don't got to inbox me. You ain't got to tell me.

I am the first person to tell my testimony. Alexander has a rap sheet that includes a guilty plea for injuring his ex-girlfriend's two-year-old child in 2008. In 2016, he helped lead a Dallas protest that ended in Micah's Xavier Johnson's ambush, killing five police officers. Alexander's press conference was a total disaster. They kicked out Metcalf's father, a man who had forgiven Carmelo Anthony for the murder of his son. The Next Generation Action Network's funding is a labyrinth of leftist cash. IRS filings reveal they've been paid by at least three Soros-linked groups.

The Tides Foundation, BVN, Capacity Building Institute and Resist Incorporated. Tides, a Soros-backed slush fund, dropped 25 grand on Alexander's group in 2023 for, quote, equity and human rights, end quote. BVM Capacity Building Institute, flush with $12 million from Soros' empire, funneled 7,500 to next generation in 2023,

and 51,000 to their sales. sister, the NGAN Foundation in 2021. Resist Incorporated, another Soros beneficiary chipped in 7 grand in 2022. Alexander's group has also dodged accountability with revoked tax-exempt status for failing to file proper 990s under multiple aliases. What we're seeing is a deliberate push to inflame racial tensions and turn a murder case into a national flag. This is a sigh-up. They want people to go, hey, we're going to peacefully protest in Frisco, Texas. And then they're going to have their agitators there, just like they had their agitators in Charlottesville.

Soros and his network are orchestrating yet another summer of unrest, which gives all of us the uneasy gut feeling of a massive distraction to cover something far more nefarious than a manoeuvre. manufactured race war. John Bound reporting for InfoWars. And you can find that report up on X at Real Alex Jones, and you can share it there. Remember, you're the Paul Reverez. When you take the live fee from Real Alex Jones or Infowars.com, or at A.J.N. Live, the Alex Jones Network, and you share it,

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Not resigning from leadership, but he already did that. Leaving the W.E.F. Off the board, gone. Why? I'm going to break it all down. next hour, get into the military news, get into so much more on the economy. Coming up next hour. Now, speaking of the economy, you got Soros and all these groups spending millions of dollars to hype up this tragedy in Dallas

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I don't like Cuomo and don't trust him, but look what his brother did and all the rest of it. But my point is, here they are talking about actual tax increases on the rich and getting rid, and the White House is very serious, of tax. taxes on people making $200, $300,000 a year are below. And that will supercharge the economy. People under that tax bracket pay a very small percent overall of the taxes. But bigger than that, the globalists have all this offshore systems beyond other countries where they set it up where none of the money ever comes back to begin with.

So Trump's looking at all of this, and this is real populism, and that's what Trump's always stood for. So here is an excerpt of that, but this is really exciting. and you need to send this report to your friends and family that are still leftist to understand they want real prosperity. Join the team. Here it is. Donald Trump agreeing with Steve Bannon that, yeah, we got to tax the rich more. It's hang on, hang on Chris. It's already been leaked. This is why today, Larry Cudlow and Steve Moore yesterday and Sean Hannan on his radio show is going nuts, saying it leaked out that President Trump is open to the concept and behind closed doors. Senators and congressmen are saying, hey, we just don't see how.

the math works that if we extend the tax credits, particularly the fact that President Trump has promised no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and the big enchilada, no tax on Social Security, if you add that, we're another, I don't know, $250, $500 billion short every year. That's right. That gap has to be made. Then just the math works out that the logic is, and you got to take care of the entrepreneurs. You got to make sure that the entrepreneurs that are building businesses aren't caught up in this. you have to go with that upper bracket,

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Democrats are being fine with this. Steve, Steve Mnuchin. Oh, no. No. Okay, let's, when he say that, let's go back to the beginning months of the Biden administration. They put forward a tax plan that would go after and tax the oligarchs tax the billionaires. It didn't even get out of committee.

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Longing for the sun. Predicted, as I said, starting in mid-March today, the globalist publicly said they're going to try to crash the stock market. market. The Dow Jones Industrial average is down 1,160.28, or 2.96 to 37,981.95. And it's still going down from its high up at 50. And when you expand on that, let's look at where gold is right now. Gold is at an all-time high again. $1.25 up 1.96%

today alone. Let's look at silver. Silver went up but it went down 27 cents. It's at 3257. Let's look at Bitcoin. It's up. Bitcoin is up 2.15% today.

Or $86,987.16. One up even more. more earlier in the day, went down a little bit, but still has major gains. That was easy to predict going into this global financial realignment. America was about to lose its cards, lose the dollar, world reserve currency status. We lost the rare earth minerals. Our military had been sold out. We were being dismantled.

But we were still the world's biggest market. And at the last minute, Trump came in to save the country with the right pocket. policies. And now the Glovalist are doing all their naked shorts, their put options, everything they can to plunge the stock market and convince you to panic and to abandon Trump. And then with that comes the civil unrest. They're already hyping. They're using a case where a black high school student kills a white student. And Soros is funding that and got black folks protesting and angry. Imagine of actual black folks get killed by some crazy, wound up brainwashed white supremac. The entire the country had massive unrest or more. Billions of dollars destroyed, dozens killed over George Floyd. Imagine when some crazy person wound up goes in and attacks. The Democrats tell us that's imminent. U.S. stock futures, dollar, treasuries tumble on Powell.

Punt panic. Gold, Bitcoin soar, and that's because we predicted last week. Powell would keep the pause going. but what did the European Central Bank do on the same day last week? They cut interest rates to help their economy. Powell has said

they were going to lower rates when Kamala got in or quote after the election, but because they think what they wanted to, they won't. European Central Bank cuts rates on weak growth. Markets bet on more easing, flooding money into their market, out of our market. And Powell bad-mouting the tariffs and bad-mouting Trump,

the private Federal Reserve head. Trump ramps up attacks on Powell. Headline should be. That's a CNBC headline. Trump retaliates to Powell's attacks on the U.S. recovery. But instead, Trump ramps up attacks on poor little Powell. Demands loser Fed share, lower rates now. Preemptive cuts and interest rates are being called for by many.

Trump wrote on truth, social. With these costs trending so nicely downward, just what I was predicting it would do. The inflation is slowing and lowering. There can be no inflation, but there can be slowing of the economy unless Mr. Too Late, a major loser, lowers rates. Now, Trump wrote.

Absolutely true. And we laid all this out with Dr. Kirk Elliott before Trump even got in, exactly what's happening. And we could even look when he was president-elected. When they were doing the naked shorts, mid-March was when we knew the main attack on the economy would begin. And they need to plunge it and convince people it's Trump's fault before the civil unrest.

Trump's push against Powell adds the doubts of U.S. Haven status. Bloomberg, yes. Get your money out. Don't bet on America, says the globalist. U.S. dollar falls a three-year low as Trump Powell threats further debt investor confidence. But that causes more factories to come in. More exports. But we don't want it too much.

money worries. Just 13% of Americans feel confident about their finances. Trump was handed a disaster. He's trying to fix it. But now they're trying to blame all you see on Trump. Meanwhile, just in India to put 12% tariff on steel to limit cheap imports from China. Everybody's following suit. And that alliance against China. Trump's winning. We're winning. But do Americans understand that? This is getting serious. China has imposed sanctions on U.S. Congress members, government officials, and heads of NGOs for their egregious behavior on Hong Kong. Hong Kong-related issues. Oh, yeah, the Cold War is heating up. China warns countries against striking deals with the U.S.

as it expense. It says they will be punished. I want to hit one more story along those lines than get into the Pope and the WEF and those huge developments. You see the full video at info wars.com. Dim rep and globalist field marshal. He's one of their top strategist. He's a kingpin.

Raskin threatens foreign nations that work with Trump admin. When we come back to power, we are not going to look kindly. And they mean that against the American people as well, like you already saw in the four years of their reign of terror, listed conservative Catholics and Christians and patriots and Trump supporters as the number one terror threat. So here is part of Raskin's threat. So I like that idea. and it's a compliment to something that we need to be doing right now, which is engaging in far more work of transnational democratic solidarity

with the democratic governments and the democratic movements and peoples and parties of the world to try to prevent the spread of the lawlessness and the fascist chaos that's been unleashed against us. But implicit in it should be the idea that if, and when we come back to power, and we will. We are not going to look kindly upon people who facilitated, to use a word of the day, who facilitated authoritarianism in our country. That's an assault on our constitution and on our people. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. The tariffs, the globalism, the cutting off our energy, all the regulations. That was the post-industrial world assault on Western industrialized society. from the Rio de Janeiro treaty in 1992 that Bush signed onto, but the Senate didn't ratify, that put us under UNESCO and the deindustrialization plan. The thing banning fireplaces and left the cities and all over the world, banning space heaters, banning hot water heaters, banning rage stoves, banning normal fertilizer, the electricity cuts, banning coal power plants, banning oil drilling,

cutting off the keystone pipeline, announcing plans to reduce the amount of farming output. All of that comes out of the UN Treaty of Agenda 2030. And for decades, we show the documents, show the treaty, show it in action, make films, predict what they would do. They would all happen because it wasn't a prediction. It was a battle plan. And now they're trying to get Agenda 2030 done. And what do they say at Agenda 2030? We'll use viruses to take control the world.

world and have a world ID. And we'll use the collapsing third world countries and crises from global warming. I mean, their policies cutting off energy, cutting off resources, cutting off fertilizer, cutting off food, and say, oh, look, the world's collapsing. Everything's burning down. Not because they got rid of fire mitigation or drained the reservoirs all over and wouldn't trim the trees around power lines and leave them on in storms. No, global warming is the reason your cities are burning down.

The world's going to end in 2030. Remember, the world as you know it, then they turn around and say it's global warming. oh, the jungles are hotter. That's where COVID-19 came from, even though we know it came out of a lab. And I told you in January and February 2020, they'd already scanned the viruses at the major universities in Australia and India. And it was five viruses combined 100%. We learned it was already patented years before at Chapel Hill, North Carolina, then moved to Wuhan. And it was sensational last week when the White House put out their report that 99% came out of a lab,

of the Kleberd sites and the combined viruses and the spike protein welded on. No shit Sherlock. And then I see all these other talk show hosts like they're breaking it. And I'm not in competition with them. I'm just so sick of being so far ahead of all this. I took all the little bit of time this weekend and only did like three, four hours of research and posting. To me, that's a day off to spend time with family and clean the house and organize stuff and, you know, go eat dinner, or my parents are, you know, Sunday service, things like that.

And I go on action, I see all these comments, Alex didn't cover in the lab leak and the White House saying it probably came out of a lap. And it's just like, what are you talking about? I see comments all the time. Why don't you talk about the federal or being private? I don't let's talk about that. And again, I know it's just talking points. It doesn't hurt me.

It's just like, it's ridiculous. It's just mind-blowing. So, yeah, have the archivist go back to February 2020. So we nailed it, showed the documents, had Dr. Francis Boyle on, explained the shot would be a poison to erase your immune system, told you everything that would then unfold. Because I'd done it in 2009 on Jesse Ventura that they were going to release a virus, use the fear of the virus to give you shots that did what,

erase your immune system for the, the new weapon they would launch because Dr. Rima Labo met with world leaders who bragged about it to her. And her husband was the former head of Army intelligence. Oh, oh, yeah, we broke it before it even happened. But we need to do a report where we combine that because it's not about, oh, look, I was right. It's about, look, we already knew. Here's the proof of how we knew. and people love the stuff I did 10, 15 years ago because it's dead on today.

And sure, they were watching back then, but they really watched now. And then have clips of fouching. No, it's not from a lab. You're wrong, Senator Paul. And I have nothing to do with it, even though under Obama, they ordered its creation in 2013, 14, 15. Whistleblowers created a huge scandal of a weaponized airborne SARS manmade. with the HIV spike protein. They tested on rats in North Carolina and Texas,

University of Texas, and Chapel Hill, North Carolina, University of North Carolina. And we should even cut in the clip. It's only like five minutes from the end of that miniseries. Relaunch. Full 2016, Chris Carter reboot of the X-Files. Chris Carter's in the news saying, I base this on Alex Jones's show,

the talk show host character that's always right is Alex Jones. And in the show, they release it. a virus for fear to give you a vaccine that erases your immune system and then puts a virus in you that starts giving you cancer. Just like Chris Carter warned you the 9-11 plan before it happened, he then warned you of the COVID attack months, years before it happened, and use me to do it, though I didn't talk to him about that or planned it or know it, and didn't talk to him until after 9-11, and didn't talk to him about it at the relaunch of a series, just read what he said in the news. They talked to him some in between.

And the reason I raised that is, yeah, we covered the lab leak, said it was from a lab. It wasn't a leak either. See, it's lie within lie. Didn't come from China, didn't come from the Wuhan lab, wasn't made there, was moved there so they could release it there to have the fallback to blame China. Then Xi Jinping doesn't have his public take it. Russia doesn't have his public take it.

And we hear, oh, that's because they released it. and they knew then we'd take a shot to erase our immune system. Well, our own government rolled out that shot, not the Chinese, and I'm not defending Xi Jinping. It's just that Xi Jinping didn't do it. Gigi Ping's allied with the globalists, but they've broken away. They're in a big fight. And you know they had this plan with China already on the shelf.

So, yeah. But I'll get to that coming up. I want to get into the Pope and all the rest of it, but, Oh, my goodness. It's just mind-blowing. So, yes, the Lister's on X. You bet I'll stop covering up the lab leak theory. It's not a lab leak.

It was done on purpose. Under the Obama administration, they had it ready to go, and they had the UN saying soon as these acts will come and will use it to take over the world, and they'll prepare you for climate lockdowns and train you to stay locked in your house, and you'll have six feet distance, You'll have to wear masks, and that'll be used to create fear in the public.

And I told you all of that and said, you won't be able to go to the ball games, six feet apart, and you'll wear a mask. And then people said, how the hell did he know that? Because under Operation Bioshield 2004, multi-billion dollar funding by Congress, the Bush administration, they put up a public battle plan and sent out millions of packages to churches and other groups preparing to do it in 2006. but they didn't sing six feet apart, wear your mask, can't go to the ballgame, got to stay in your house. So people get the clips of me talking about that, but like 20 seconds, and they get hundreds of millions of views, and they go, how the hell did he know it?

Well, in the full clip, I tell you. Just like I just did. Everything I just said, you can go look up. X-Files predicting 9-11, exactly. X-Files producing COVID, exactly. Me predicting it exactly. my statement is being the basis for the X-Files predicting it. Chris Carter in variety saying the plot comes from Alex Jones' show.

Well, it didn't come from my show. It came from me studying disease XUN plan and BioShield and Operation Lockstep and talking to Dr. Rima Labo and General Stobobine. And then how do we know in February, early February of 2020, that it was five viruses, that it was the HIV-spike protein? because they have CRISPR editors that are multi-billion dollar machines in India and in Australia, and somebody didn't give them the note to not look at it and publish it. So they both scan the son of a bitch in January, right when it started publicly,

released a few months before, and they went, man, this thing, six or five different viruses, including the HIV spike protein, one of the most studied nanotech reproduced viral particles ever. Oh. Yes, I'll stop covering up the lab leak theory. It's like saying Tom Brady doesn't know how to throw football. Because when it comes to this, Info Wars is the Tom Brady, baby, and beyond. From confronting these globalists face-to-face, they're having all the whistleblowers on.

And that's why they want us off the air, because I've got the deep, long knowledge of these big organizations. and institutions and their philosophies. I know how they operate. I've got their name. I've got their number. I've got their butt. And when the public finally gets the pieces and it's starting to happen, then you can't ever run the tyranny anymore because people understand it.

But I do want to take the last 10-minute breakdown, and I just want to go through it. Every time I talk about something, I want to show the clip of what I just said. Show the clip what I said. Show people what I said. Up front, a few clips, teasers. And just say, watch Alex Jones completely predict the, The last 15 years with total precision.

And then you'll watch the clip and you'll learn how I did it. You can go look it up. And then you can see them say we're going to use a virus, probably in airborne SARS out of China to blow up the original international system and bring in cashless society, social credit score, tracking and locking you in your houses forever. And it'll be martial law and will come and take your kids out of your house without your authorization.

and it's a UN global corporate dictatorship to plan. And it failed. And it caused the Great Awakening. And we're winning. And that's why you see all this happening. But it's important to understand they're going to try it again. And they're going to try to cause a race war as the cover for their martial law. And they're trying to crash the market right now.

So the fight ain't over. The fight just begun. And because we're halfway awake, we're beating the list. shit out of the New World Order. But if people take stuff for granted, and they don't realize how intense this is, we are going to get our asses still handed to us. You heard Raskin.

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There's a term used in history by every ancient civil. and it's a omen or a portent. And you've heard of reading tea leaves or reading bones or the Romans would butcher a bull and then read its entrails to have the priests look into it and see the future. Well, I don't believe in that stuff. But it is emblematic that Henry Kissinger died and Charlie Munger and so many. other globalists the last few years. And that's emblematic of the UN being one of the most

unpopular organizations in the world less than 10% Congress having less than 10% of privilege rating. The WEF having less than 10% of privilege rating. It is a big deal when you have this Pope who has been a total

globalist. What's described in the Bible is a false prophet. I'm not saying he's the false prophet of the apocalypse, but a foreshadowing of that, and him saying nothing about the persecution of traditional Catholics in the U.S. and around the world. I'm going to list some of the terrible things this guy did

that are just really unbelievable. I don't like to speak ill of the dead. He died in the early morning hours there in Vatican City. But before I get into him, let's talk about another omen. Now, six months ago, Klaus Schwab resigned as the chair of the B-E-F, something I predicted. He's so unpopular. They'd say, oh, our group's unpopular. It's Claude Swab. Well, certainly he helped that because he's such a James Bond,

Lofeld character. Ian Fleming basically reportedly based the character on his dad, who was a real supervillain like him. But, but Klaus Schwab, Mr. Eat the Bugs, you'll own nothing, be happy, a bust of linen on his desk. He first resigns as the chairman. He's still on the board. Then he gets off the board a month ago, and I said, Watch, I predict he'll be completely gone and kicked out of it.

Well, today, the same day that the Pope makes the jump into hyperspace, the Black Pope, the Jesuit Pope, Klaus Schwab steps down from W.E.F. Board amid globalist retreat. Following my recent announcement, and I am into my 88th year, I have decided to step down from the position of chair as a member of the Board of Trustees with imminent effect. And he goes on, he's out of the W.E.F. Because all the big money is cut off by Trump. He was getting out of USA and the EPA and other groups. And people don't want to go to it now.

And attendance is way down. Because it's identified as an enemy. Oh, two years ago, the UN had a resolution, not by the General Assembly, but by the real corporate board of the UN to make it co-equal with the UN and all policy. Well, it was always really that the mouth of the globalist, where the real decisions were being made. And then more importantly, it's just Bilderberg's public mouth. It then makes the statements and externalizes the plan for global governance

and has their big global government conferences. Two years ago, Elon Musk speaks at it that says global government's tyrannical, is bad, the people don't want it. You're destroying civilization. You want to depopulate people. China's even gone to three-child policy. You need to stop. You're not able to cut off the resources and maintain control of the world and be these modern neo-feudalist lords. You're going to end up triggering total collapse and get us all kill. So even if you were evil and believe in the globalist project, China double-crossed it, it's falling apart. The people are aware of it. It'll never get away with it, as I've been saying for decades,

you expose their project and as it goes from bed to operational in 2020 it will be so horrible everyone will turn against it. I said that thousands of times the last two decades and it happened. It's common sense. If we expose them all the corporate media would do is say, oh, it doesn't

exist, there's no global government, there's no new rule order, there's no global governance conferences, there's no plan to ban your gas stoves and cut your son's genitals off, there's no plan to ban most farming, there's no, oh, there's no plan to get rid of the borders, there's no, yeah, there is, There's no plan to use viruses for total control. Yeah, there are.

We named them all. And then they would still go ahead with it, not knowing that we already had this show and many others. Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions. I mean, myself, before they even banned me off most of the Internet eight years ago, seven years ago. 20 billion views on YouTube alone. Tens of billions on Facebook. Hundreds of radio stations, hammering. Those are billions of views on our channels.

channels. And now we've had billions and billions and billions and billions and billions and billions. I mean, we were having 400, 500 million views before the election through it. Now there's less traffic political, so that's normal, but still hundreds of millions a day, 100 million a day, just on our channels, not to mention everybody else taking clips. I can't even track that. 450 plus radio stations. That's just us. and remember how they thought they openly said at the New York Times

Washington Post CNN. Alex Jones is the guy that detonated this and he's got the main focal point. He's organized in grassroots, not distribute worldwide. If we take him off the air and then discredit him, we'll be able to scare everybody else into not doing it. Remember what they said at the show trials in Texas and Connecticut. During the trials, in front of the judge, on national TV, and in press conferences, he's patient zero. He triggered all these lies about global government and the New World Order.

And once we shut him up, we'll be able to shut everybody else up. How'd that work out for you? Because the supporters of this broadcast continue to support us no matter what. But even if they would have killed me years ago, the dominoes were already falling. The damage was already done. Enough people knew about this that when they finally took off the mask and went from Operation Agenda 21 to Agenda 2030 in 2020, like they said they would. I mean, they said in all those documents, the Spars 2020 and Operation Lockstep in the actual treaty plan,

we are going to go operational in 2020. And I kept telling you, if you think stuff's been bad so far, you just wait till 2020. And they say their main thing will be a new virus. Can you imagine I'm sitting there watching the clock tick knowing it's coming? And of course, when it started, I knew right away what it was. And of course it was, just like they're going to mow down a bunch of illegal aliens very soon. Now, we have enough viewers and listeners now that it may not happen now because I hammer it every hour.

But it looks like they're still trying it. And so this is a big deal. This is a very big deal. So, Klaus Schwab, fully leaving, is because they think that will give them a makeover. no it won't the wef is irrevocably destroyed and convicted for crimes against humanity and conspiring for a global technocratic technocracy for pushing an anti-human depopulation agenda and sure the people behind it are still there the bill gates is oh how popular is he he's as popular as death his wife was on cobert last week

running him down to the world, distancing herself, saying he's a horrible person. He can't be trusted. I think I gave that to you Friday. I forgot to get to it. It's just, it's all insane. Well, we don't trust Melinda French. Well, of course we don't. But the fact that Fredo Cuomo's running from him and Bill Maher's running from him and Jeff

Bezos is running from him and Mark Zuckerberg is running from him. They're running from them. They're running from the globals. They're running. They're running. Because we're routing them. But their minions and the Soros groups just still, and the Jamie Raskins, they're not giving up. There's the Soros Raskin Axis.

And I'm not saying they're the actual kingpins, but they're the guys you know about. But if the globalists keep being identified, the Larry Finks and their owners, the quicker we expose them now, the more. So many of their minions will give up. They won't even have their counter response. But now we're into their counter response. So this is a race, a race to finish them off politically to destroy them in the public eye. Don't just destroy Bill Gates.

I'll just destroy Claude Schwab. Go after all of their kingpins, all of their mouthpieces, politically expose them because their plans are set. And, oh, they're really dumb. They release another virus. They're really dumb they kill Trump. it'll make it that much worse for them, but it'll make things destabilize and be horrible for us as well. So we want them to be smart,

discretion is the greater part of valor, and to surrender now, publicly come out and endorse the Golden Age. Come out and endorse the new Renaissance. Come out and endorse the Great Awakening. And then show us as a high-level globalist, mid-level, low-level, buy good work, and then you save yourself from your boss's own project.

And then I can tell you, we're smart. We'll leave you alone unless you've committed crimes against kids. You're going to have to fall down some stairs. It'll be an accident, no big deal. That's already happening. And that's the thing of why they're losing so quickly is I just imagine that gloves have been taken off here and there. And I see evidence of that. And that's just a little message.

So this is a very real real. revolution against disaster, against death cult. Of course a bunch of powerful people have joined us. Because it's self-preservation. The general public is the genesis point of this. This broadcast is the zenith of it. But we got to push harder. So here's a short compilation of Klaus Schwab and some of the nasty things he said.

And to watch him run off like a rat into the darkness is very refreshing. Here is this. The young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, half of this government are actually young noble leaders of the world. Correct. So we penetrate the cabinets. The change is not just happening. The change can be shaped by us. We have to prepare for a more angry world, how to prepare to take the necessary action, to create the fair world.

I see the need for a great reset. So people assume we are just going back to the good old world which we had, and everything will be normal again. This is, let's say, fiction. It will not happen. There is only one way this pandemic is going to go. It's going to get worse and worse and worse. Pay insufficient attention to the frightening scenario of a comprehensive cyber attack,

which would bring to a complete. to see power supply, transportation, hospital services, our society as a whole. The COVID-19 crisis would be seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a major cyber attack. All right, so we've talked about Klaus Schwab now. Now let's talk about the Pope. All right. I'm not a Catholic, but I'm quite a historian, so I know a lot about the Catholics.

I know a lot about the Orthodox Church, the two oldest continual Christian sex, sex. And you say what you want about human institutions and back and forth, and some popes did good stuff and some did bad stuff. And, you know, compare Pope John Paul the second anti-communist pro-family, pro-West, from Poland to this Pope. I mean, I would say I was a very good man. I did a lot of good stuff. and but a lot of traditional Catholics say no no he wasn't hardcore enough it started a lot of the problems whatever I just look at what I see but if you look at Pope Francis I remember reading about this for 30 plus years and experts saying look when they put a Jesuit in

to the papacy you are going to see all hell breakless and then I researched it under the rules and laws. In the Catholic Church, you're not supposed to have the Jesuits, the Society of Jesus, set up by Loyola, the general, 500-something years ago, you're not supposed to have the watchdog, supposedly, or the secret police of the Catholic Church, being able to have a Pope because what would happen? Well, the secret police of the church around the Inquisitions,

that stuff, they're going to quickly take over the church. I mean, that's what happens in third world countries and dictatorships and stuff as your security force takes over and the head of the security force is suddenly the leader. But sure enough, using blackmail for pedophilia and all the rest of it, they infiltrated the church

with, and the Jesuits for at least 100 years have been hardcore communist. Hillary Clinton says, really, I'm a Jewettical thinker. Because I'm not a Catholic, but she said, I've adopted the thinking of the Jesuits. You can pull the clip up. There's repeated clips having Hillary talks about the Jesuits and how she admires the Jesuits and Jewetical thinking. And so, remember this Pope a few years ago, I don't want to hear about Western and Christian values in Europe.

We should take in foreigners. Well, you didn't take anybody into Vatican City and promoting carbon taxes. And, oh, it's a sin to have carbon. We're carbon-based life forms. It's good for the earth. He supports restricting beef and cutting off the fuel. And what does that do to do, the third world? And then he just turns a blind out of the persecution of traditional Catholics

and getting rid of the Latin Mass and all the things you saw them do. On and on and on and on. There he is yesterday and Easter in the Popemobile, you know, driving around, refusing to quote rest, going out. And then he met with J.D. Vance and then later died. Major respiratory problems. So he also brought in what I heard predicted decades ago, that of Jesuit Pope would do.

and that he would kind of unify the world religions and bringing all these foreign idols into the church. He did all of that. And then did the pedophile scandal get better or worse? No, it got worse, which again was the left, the last hundred years putting their people into their seminaries, putting them into the priesthood. And they do it to the other Christian denominations and other Christian groups. They do the Boy Scouts. They do it to all these groups. We just found out about the Vatican and the Catholic Church because it was the biggest.

It was the big target. And back before he got in, I remember Leo Zagami years before saying, you know, this Pope, to be known as Pope Francis, he's the one running the blackmail rings. That came out later in the news. That's how he got power over the Cardinals was blackmail information for coverups they've been involved in. So wasn't somebody coming in to get rid of the pedophiles. It was the guy running the pedophile blackmail network to get himself in to become the SJW-D-E-I-E-I. kingpin of the whole thing. And then the murders and assassinations and the corruption.

So you got him dying hours after midnight, after Easter. You got the WEF head completely leaving the WEF, the key globalist organizations. You've got all the big funding being cut off. You've got all these countries joining Trump in the trade war against China. saying China is the ones of the deal with us too. We're putting tariffs on you too. Why did China have this deal where they could have tariffs on everybody else, but we couldn't

have tariffs on them? That's what Trump said to these other countries. He said, hey, China has been set up because the globalists would tell India and tell everybody else. You're not allowed to be involved in rarest minerals. You're not allowed to be involved in all of this.

You have to do what China says because the globalist had set up China and had the middlemen controls. Remember the Pope rebuked Trump administration over immigrant deportations appears to aim directly advance. Yeah. Oh, they got 50-foot walls are taller at the Vatican. They don't take anybody in, but you got to take them in, you got to get raped, you got to get robbed, you got to get murdered. He literally helped lead the assault and the Islamic invasion against Europe.

He got the King of England on Easter saying, Issa is about Islam and its values. I'm not kidding. Pull up. Just type in King Charles' Easter statement sparks outrage. I meant to cover that Friday you can get to it. It's like, the greatest thing for Easter is the values of Islam. Nothing about Christ, nothing about God, nothing about Christianity.

Nothing, nothing, nothing. None of the icons. None of it. None of it. Because the globalist system is against Christianity. Whether you believe in God or not, the globalist system is at longerheads against Christian doctrine and ideas. and against the West itself. That is the blessing of Christianity.

And if we get away from it, we go into bondage. We go into enslavement, just like in the Old Testament. When the people of Israel didn't follow God's commandments, the province would say you're going to go into bondage, and it would always happen. When you're evil, God allows evil to take you over. That's the curse. God just removes the protection.

And Europe has been cursed under this Pope. Catholics have been persecuted and cursed. You know the Pope said that Biden don't persecute Conservative Catholics. Don't call them the most dangerous terrorists for no reason with no evidence. Preposterous. He would have stopped, but they didn't. And he let Biden and others continue to get communion and all the rest of it.

That's a blasphemy. That's a satanic ritual, openly supporting partial birth abortion, and still getting communion. That's what the Satanists do when they rent these Catholic churches and others and go do satanic masses there publicly now. that's blasphemy. That's what the devil wants. That's what Satan is love. They love to get our children, God's creation. They want to hurt God. They want to hurt children because it hurts Christ.

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assault on the lies of the new world order it's Alex Jones. One of the smartest, most informed people on earth about the globalist, William F. Jasper, is coming on to look at Oklahoma City and the anniversary of this weekend. What really happened will also get into globalists and their operations and his current analysis of that. But here is James Corbett with just a short piece out of his documentary film, The Secret Life of McVeigh, dealing with Oklahoma City.

The deep dive on this is coming up, but here it is. On the morning of April 19, 1995, a decorated Gulf of the United States of California, war combat vet blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City using a truck bomb that he didn't build in a rider truck that he didn't rent with the help of a passenger who didn't exist. Having just gotten away with the largest act of terrorism on U.S. soil to date, the Fort Bragg-trained Special Forces Sheep drip dropout, blended in with the crowd by making his getaway in a car without a license plate and was immediately pulled over. The ATF was the supposed target of the attack, but luckily all of their agents were out of the office that morning. Later that day, the President boldly declared

We will find the people who did this. And when we do, Justice will be swift, certain, and severe. Except for John Doe No. 2. John Doe number two. John Doe number two. Who, according to the FBI, never existed. In McVeigh's unprecedented at three and a half week trial, the prosecution didn't show the CCTV footage of him and John Doe No. 2,

parking the rider truck. Didn't explain why 24 separate witnesses mass hallucinated the existence of John Doe number 2, didn't explain why the government was testing truck bombs, and the army was storing rider trucks at Camp Gruber right before. the bombing, and didn't talk to the FBI informants who blew the whistle on the plot. But they did collaborate with the CIA, and they did convict McVeigh as the lone wolf bomber and Terry Nichols as his bomb constructing accomplice. Still, a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists, including 300 bombing victims, insist on talking

about facts and evidence and refuse to simply believe what they've been told a million times by people in tailored suits with well-coffed hair. They quote the U.S. Army Brigadier General and the FBI Crime Lab whistleblower and the inventor of the neutron bomb who point out the physical impossibility that the rider-truck bomb did the damage to the building, but that doesn't matter because if there were other bombs in the building that day, we would have heard about them. The second explosive was found and diffused. I think he said another bomb.

The Justice Department is reporting that a second explosive device has been found. They then found a third device, which was also larger than the first. And I see another bomb truck going, so apparently they're going to try to get out that third bomb. The FBI claims to have lost the footage showing with Bay and John Doe No. 2, parking the truck in front of the Murrah building that morning, but that's understanding. because the Bureau has a lot of important evidence to store. Terry Nichols insist the FBI was involved in the plot,

but thankfully a judge has saved us the trouble of listening to him by preventing lawyers from deposing him. There was a bomb squad truck parked across the street two hours before the blast, but that just shows the authorities were prepared for anything. And other documents obtained by 2020 show that someone called the executive secretary its office at the Justice Department in Washington and said, the Morrow building had been bombed.

But this was 24 minutes before the blast. But that just shows the public was unusually vigilant that morning. Also, Apparently, before the bombing, Governor Frank Keating's brother, Mark, had been working on a novel about a terrorist bombing in Oklahoma City. Strangers still. One of the characters in the novel was named Thomas McVeigh.

But that's probably just a coincidence. McVeigh wrote a letter to his sister where he admitted to being a secret special forces operative and he complained to friends of the pain in his ass from an army implanted microchip, but that's crazy because if he didn't actually leave the army in 1991, there would be proof of that. This man never existed, and if you say otherwise, you're a crazy government-hating nut job who deserves to be locked in a cage for the rest of your life. Likewise, him, her, them, her, and him.

And him and him. McVeigh was not executed on May 16, 2001 as scheduled, because... The FBI had failed to turn over thousands of pages of evidence to McVeigh's defense attorneys. But the execution went ahead on June 11th. In a highly unusual and secret agreement, no autopsy was performed. One witness said he was still breathing, and the prison officials admitted his hearse was a decoy. Then the case was officially closed. This is the story of OKC, as told to you by the same truth tellers behind.

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It is the Alex Jones Show with Owen Troyer. Yes, taking over now, the remainder of the Alex Jones show, Owen Troyer, in the Info Wars World Headquarters here in Austin, Texas. And I'm joined now by Bill Jasper, and we're going to talk about a couple trends right now, right out of the New American. The New American.com headline stories, Vietnam, 50 years later, the tragedy of Southeast Asia, Vietnam's godly grunt. But first, I want to start off with OKC bombing 30 years later. Now, over the weekend, you had Pam Bondi basically certifying the false narrative around the Oklahoma City bombing, basically saying, oh, yep, it happened exactly as you're told, and you're not supposed to question anything.

Of course. Well, fake news is not a new phenomenon. False flags are not a new phenomenon. It's been going on a long time. and the Oklahoma City bombing is one example. So joining me now to discuss this is Bill Jasper. Bill, I think the best way to approach this topic, it was really a long time ago, 30 years ago,

and somebody like me who, I was too young to remember it, really, a lot of people might not have been following the news or might not even understand at that time how fake news and propaganda works, but now they do. And so they're more willing to go back into history and look at some of these events and question what really happened. I think 9-11 is the big one, but the Oklahoma City bombing, certainly a significant one as well.

So why don't you just do kind of a crash course for people that might not be so familiar with this event on maybe the obvious things that don't add up, and then maybe get into some more of the nuanced things, and then the conclusion of what really happened, if we can even retron, Bill Jasper, go ahead and just give us the download. Okay, big topic, big challenge, but we'll do our best. Like you said, a lot of people who are watching here were too young to remember, maybe weren't even born, or it's 30 years. So memories kind of fade, and even those that were following the New American magazine,

which was virtually alone at that time in the media. We didn't have all the alternative media. Alex Jones was one of the few back at that time who did give a platform for us to get out our information to a larger audience. So here's the thing. April 19, 1995, a bomb goes off, or as you'll find out, bombs go off at the Oklahoma City Federal,

Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. 168 people were killed, hundreds others injured, wounded by the bombing, and very soon afterwards, a single man was arrested, Timothy McVeigh. And we were told that he and others, unknown had carried out this bombing. And there was immediately beyond the lookout for a Bolo for a John Doe number two. People will remember

seeing these artist renderings of a suspect known as John Doe number two, who was with McVeigh on that morning helping carry out this bombing. Very quickly, the narrative changed. Janet Reno was Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was president at the time. Janet Reno was his AG, and Louis Free was the head of the FBI. And so people who are, particularly in the MAGA movement now, who are very much alert to the presence of a deep state, that is, unseen hands behind the White House, behind the administration, behind the apparent powers that be. they're aware that, hey, what we saw over the past eight, ten years, particularly with the lawfare against Donald Trump, with all of the efforts within the administration, within the intelligence community to sabotage him and to sabotage the whole agenda he had been elected to represent and which is ongoing now. people who have gotten a handle on that will now be able to appreciate that this did not begin with Joe Biden. It did not begin with Obama. This goes back to Bill Clinton and before. We have this deep state, which your audience is very much aware of, that has been operating in this country for pretty much the past

century. We focus at the New American, particularly on what we see as the brain trust behind it. And foremost among those entities in this brain trust is a council on foreign relations, CFR. So when we look at the Oklahoma City bombing, we see that, first of all, there was a massive cover-up. There were multiple conspirators involved in it. There were multiple bombs, which did necessitate multiple conspirators. And we have vast information and experts of the highest caliber attesting to this and witnesses, that there were many witnesses who were intimidated by and threatened by the FBI and the DOJ to change their testimony. All of these are crimes, federal crimes by federal officials. We have very extensive evidence that there was

prior warning that they knew the bombing was coming, and we can get into that as well. And then finally, we have the evidence that deep state agencies beside the FBI, we had the CIA involved as well, and we had foreign assets that were brought into this country that were participating in this event. So it's a lot to unpack. And we spent an incredible amount of time all over the United States, but around Oklahoma City and the Virens. We interviewed, I myself personally interviewed more witnesses and survivors and experts who were involved in this, including many in law enforcement, than any other investigative report. and we tried to bring other media into the event, but everyone was so frightened at that time

because people were being investigated, being intimidated, being labeled as co-conspirators with Timothy McVeigh, Time magazine called them ideational co-conspirators, your anti-government, your pro-terrorist, your extremist, if you challenge this official narrative. And so most members of Congress and most of the media, we didn't have all of the internet alternative media now, but that which was existent at that time, kept hands off. And I can, again, I applaud Alex Jones for being fearless in this regard and not shying away from it.

most other editors and publishers said, hey, you're doing a great job, but we don't want to tackle that. Well, I feel that way with a lot of these stories that people just want to skip and not get into, whether it's Oklahoma City or 9-11, or even some more recent ones, the Epstein list. And it's like, no, we need to know the truth behind this stuff so that we can move forward with accountability and trust. you know, we have a very

big problem with trust in our institutions, the mainstream media, the government, that they're not telling us the truth. And so how can you trust anything? Absolutely. I mean, that's the crux of the matter right there. And that's why this has festered and why this has gone on for so long, because

the so-called watchdogs have become lap dogs. They're totally owned and controlled by those they're supposed to be watching. And so the truth tellers have sold out. And we have to, we have to press ahead. And fortunately now, there's a younger generation coming up that aren't intimidated by the same labels that were put on on those earlier. And there's a curiosity and a desire to know about about these things. So that's very hopeful. And, you know, at the New American, we've had put together

dozens and dozens of stories, and maybe you can show it later on. We have a website, a landing page at the New American, where we have posted dozens of these stories. Originally, we had this webpage put up with a lot of the documents, FBI documents, ATF documents, CIA documents, et cetera, and testimony by experts, explosives experts, et cetera. That was sabotaged. We've been rebuilding it, and we have all of the text up now, and we're going to be getting a lot of the documents and images up as well. William F. Jasper, with me, editor at The New American.

And let's get into McVeigh himself, because I think, it's a good place to start. What, who was Timothy McVeigh? Why was he the fall guy for this? Why did they basically cover up the aftermath of McVeigh's life after the bombing and then stop anybody from asking questions and, of course, the autopsy and everything else want to get into those details? But who was Timothy McVeigh? What was his role in all of this? Well, that is something that is still not completely known, and I have not made my final judgment on it, having spent a tremendous amount of time digging into his past, and there are various people who suggest, and not without a good

reason, that Timothy McVeigh was actually the fall guy, that he was actually put up to do this by federal intelligence agencies, and that it was not supposed to, the bombing was not supposed to actually, the bomb was not supposed to go off. It was supposed to be found. And this, you mentioned at the very beginning that this preceded the 9-11 terror attacks.

Well, there is a connection to the 9-11 terror attacks, which we may be able to get into, and to that which proceeded it two years before the Oklahoma City bombing, which was the first attack on the World Trade Center. And so at this time, was that 93? That was before the Oklahoma City bombing. Correct. This is two years before in 1993. So you have the World Trade Center bombing in 1993. and I did a serious investigation into that as well.

And then you had the Oklahoma City bombing and then you had 9-11. And so, and they are connected in a number of ways. So at that, back at this time during the Clinton administration, a huge amount of money funding was going into putting. assets on the ground to penetrate various domestic and foreign terrorist organizations here in the United States. And we found over and over again, as we saw in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, that the FBI had penetrated and had actually, in many ways, perpetrated this terrorist cell, which blew up the World Trade Center.

Center the first time. And that's one of the things that we want to get the current FBI and DOJ to release files on because there were FBI agents who provided the World Trade Center bombers with explosives and with fuses and with technology and with training. And that was all swept under the rug. So this was supposedly, well, yes, we were providing them with dummy explosives, but they turned out not to be dummy explosives. And we saw the same thing in a number of other cases, the Georgia pipe bomb cases and several others, where federal agents were acting more as ajeant provocateurs, helping create incidents that would justify federal government, police state actions as a result.

And because if you can show that there is this vast right-wing conspiracy out there, as Hillary Clinton said, then it's justified for the federal government to come in and take very extreme measures, meaning jeopardizing the freedoms of everybody. So if you go to our website at the New American.com and see the various articles that we have on there and the witnesses, including the FBI's top lab expert, Dr. Frederick Whitehurst, who came out, this was during the middle of the investigation, and he said, wait a second, wait a second. We have FBI agents who are lying under oath,

who are perjuring themselves, who are changing evidence, destroying evidence. And he was, so then what happened to him is the same thing that happened to many whistleblowers. He was threatened. He had an IG report on him, and they tried to expel him. He brought a lawsuit.

He settled out of court, but they pretty much silenced him. He had a sterling career as the head of the FBI lab. And he was pointing out that, hey, in the Oklahoma City bombing case and in a number of others, we had a serious problem with criminal activity by FBI officials, having their agents lie under oath in court proceedings. And so these are some of the things that we reported on at the time. And these were indications that something very wrong, very evil was going on in the whole Oklahoma City bombing, but it went over into much more than that.

Well, a lot of this, when you talk about the FBI and the DOJ covering up or destroying evidence, It reminds me of TWA Flight 800, I believe it was Flight 800, where the FBI came in, they took over the investigation, and some of the independent investigators that were trying to keep track of these things. We're talking about a huge airplane carrier, and they've got all the parts laid out, and the FBI would come in at night and basically just mix up all the evidence. And the independent investigators would get so confused, and then they'd be like, well, what the hell is going on? this doesn't make sense. So then they started to document how the evidence was being destroyed. So I see this narrative playing out throughout a lot of these issues, specifically in the 90s. But when it comes to McVeigh, so I guess maybe the odds are he was a patsy,

maybe thought he was involved with some sort of a drill, because that also seems to be a common factor here, is you bring somebody in and, you know, maybe they're not all mentally there. you know, maybe put it that way. You bring somebody in, they think they're going to be part of some drill. They just drive up a car thinking it's part of a drill. They drop a pipe bomb thinking it's part of a drill. They're carrying a gun thinking it's not loaded, whatever, it's part of a drill.

And then they end up being the Patsy. They're getting set up to commit the crime. You think that's the odds-on favorite right now for the McVeigh situation? Well, no, I don't know. In some respects, there's quite a bit of evidence showing that to I think McVeigh was a true believer and was really pursuing this. But there are several things that should have been looked at very closely that haven't been. And one of them is this, who do you think, or perhaps you know,

who was the first person who went to see him in jail in Oklahoma City when he was arrested? You have any idea? Was it Merritt Garland? Well, Merrick Garland adds up being a central player in that, but he came in later. But the first person, and this is very, this is very strange. So here you have a guy, he's been arrested in the most heinous terrorist act in American history at that point. And even still today, they counted as a domestic terrorist incident. So it's the largest domestic terrorist incident still in the United States.

And the first person who comes to see him is Dr. Louis Jolion West. Does that name ring a bell for any of you people out there? Dr. Louis Jolian West became the head of the M.K. Ultra program. And you might recall if you go back, well, in our articles, but also if you go back, I don't think it's gone down the memory hole yet. if you go down, go through Google or some other search engine and search for Timothy McVeigh chip in my butt. He claimed when he was in right after he was arrested that he had a chip implanted in his butt. And then the first guy who comes to see him and who's allowed in to see him and whom we never were given any records as to what,

they discussed or if any videos were taken is Louis Jolion West, the head of the M.K. Alter program, which if you've seen the Mel Gibson movie, Conspiracy Theory, that's basically who is Patrick Stewart, plays Louis Jolion West. So was Timothy McVeigh a mentoring candidate? Was he a deep agent who had been? given various training and mind control. I don't know, but it's a serious question that shouldn't just be ignored as the media has ignored it. And this, again, is one of many things that we should be demanding that the federal government release, as well as all of the videotapes that were from the area surrounding the Murrow,

building that were taken by the FBI. There was over 20 videos. And we talked to law enforcement, interviewed law enforcement people who right after the bombing were in the police intelligence unit, all of them from the various agencies who watched these videos, which showed the rider truck driving up. showed another individual in the truck with McVeigh, showed the pickup truck that was following it, showed multiple John Does, and all of that was disappeared. Does it still exist somewhere, like the Epstein tapes and the Epstein files? Very possibly. And we need an explanation for those. And for many of the other.

things that were vital evidence that were that were disappeared. You know, oh, and one of the most important things that was done, and this was a huge part of the cover-up, huge in many ways. But the building was, had the explosion there. You've shown some of the pictures of it. Everybody's familiar with that outline, the ragged outline of the building from the aerial shots, etc. One of the first people I contacted because I had

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And I think it's very important, folks. I mean, this is the info war. And so they've been lying to us for decades. Why not get informed on what was going on back then? So you can understand better what's going on now. So this is kind of going back into the past to learn how the Info War was used against us, then, the deep state, the FBI, the rest. By the way, coming up, we're going to be joined by Leo Zagami, and we're going to talk about the future of the Info War with some breaking news out of the Vatican. But going back now to William F. Jasper, an unintentional cliffhanger there, if you kind of want to rebuild it back up, the first people on the scene there at the Oklahoma City bombing, you were talking about the M.K. Ultra doctor, not only,

Do they cover that up? I mean, they won't even talk about M.K. Ultra in the mainstream media. That's kind of a totally different story as if it doesn't exist and all the other secret government programs that are now declassified. But William F. Jasper, unintentional cliffhanger there. Let's bring it back. Okay, so everybody's familiar with the image of the Murrah building. So right after this happened, the first expert that I called was Brigadier General Benton K. pardon and why him? Well, he was the world's foremost explosives expert. He was the head of the Air Force

Armaments Explosives Laboratory, Ordinance Laboratory. For decades, he had been experimenting with and working with missiles, bombs, explosives of all kinds, on all kinds of structures and all kinds of enemy armaments. And so he had been in charge of this whole program. And when he looked at the Oklahoma City bombing, just from the news, he said, well, no, what the media is saying about this truck bomb causing that damage couldn't have happened. It would be impossible. Why is that?

And he explains, in some details we have in our articles, that this is relying on a bomb external to the building. giving with air pressure, taking down these massive concrete steel-reinforced columns. And he said, that just doesn't happen. Yes, it was a big explosion. It impressed everybody. It was the biggest anfo-amonium-night fuel oil explosion, which we had seen used as a terrorist. But unlike the World Trade Center bombing, which used similar operation,

And that one actually went under the parking structure and it was underneath the building so that explosion lifted it up. When it's outside and you have all that dissipation to go, it doesn't accomplish that. So what he said is important to do is to examine the columns in the building because not only did the size of the bomb really not do anything to. the thing. But you see from the contour of the building that if it was air blast that had taken it down, the columns closest to the air blast should have been taken down, not the ones that were in the back. And he said that if he were allowed to examine it, if forensic experts were allowed to examine it, they would be able to determine what kind of explosives and where they had been planted on the columns. Well, we were able to get in touch with the official photographer who

had taken all the photos. He was the first one there who had taken all the photos of the elevators, of the columns, all the different parts of the building. We got hundreds of professional photos, high-quality photos. General Parton said it went through all of them, and he said, look, you can tell here on this column, that is evidence just, I can tell by looking at it, that there was explosives planted on that column. So what happened? Within a month of the bombing, the building was demolished. Well, let me actually pause you right there, if you don't mind, because I hear you

talking and I can't help it, but I'm getting this echo of the September 11th narrative. Right. And now I'm looking at the building. I'm seeing the Twin Towers fall in my, in my mind's eye. And the same thing comes, like I said, it's the same echo. It's like controlled demolition, controlled demolition, controlled demolition. I hear you talking. I look at the building and to me it looks like a controlled demolition now. I mean, what are the odds that that bomb blows up the building in essentially a perfect line? And I'm not. saying it's a straight line, but I mean, you can see like every single floor is dealt the exact same damage. So is that what you're saying? Is that what these experts that were denied the opportunity to do the investigation? Is that what they're saying? They're saying, hey, just look at this with your eyes. It doesn't add up that a truck bomb that would have been placed here would have done the exact same damage on every story of this building. Am I translating that right? Yeah. So while you had It was a different, of course, with the 9-11 buildings, which did come down all in a controlled

fashion there. In the Oklahoma City case, they did not do the same. They didn't intend, I don't believe, to have the whole building come down because that would have completely defied the truck bomb in the street. They wanted it to do sufficient damage. But there were additional bombs that were undettonated that were removed from the building. And all of this indicates, obviously, that Timothy McVeigh had other accomplices, multiple accomplices. And we documented with witnesses all around, that worked around the building, that were inside the building, that said, yes, they saw suspects, some with Timothy.

McVeigh the week before the bombing. They saw suspects in the building and outside of the building before the bombing and at the time of the bombing. I just look at this image and I'm listening to you talking, guys. If you put that image we just had last up on the screen,

you can see here how many stories the building was, eight or nine stories. The every single column right there, if you just pause that shot right there, you can see every single column, every floor, it's the exact same. And so I'm not acting like I'm sort of explosives forensic expert here,

but I mean, come on. If the bomb is going up at ground level, then how does every single column on every single story from the top to the bottom remain intact if the bomb was going off? Because obviously the explosive radius goes outward from the source. I mean, to me, the proof is right there. It's right in front of your eyes.

Well, well, that's what, so, General Parton was not alone in that. We were alone in getting other experts. I mean, top experts like Dr. Samuel Cohen. Most people know him as the father of the neutron bomb. I mean, he was a world famous physicist. He was on the Manhattan Project for the original nuclear bomb, and then he later developed the neutron bomb. Dr. Frederick Hansen, a former NASA scientist, a professor at Stanford, MIT, other places, and many people who were actually controlled demolition experts. So we put together a very impressive list of people who looked at this. So, I mean, I don't have the expertise myself, and that's what you do when you're a reporter.

ABC didn't do it. CBS didn't do it. PBS didn't do it. CNN didn't do it. But we have far less resources and we went and did the responsible thing. Not only on there, but on so many other areas, like

for instance, the seismic evidence, there were two seismographs in the area and both of them gave evidence of multiple events or multiple explosions. We

went and examined those and went to the experts who were in charge of those, like Professor Brown at the University of Oklahoma in Norman and at the Omniplex in downtown Oklahoma City. And as a result of that, we created a story that challenged the narrative and, in fact, the Oklahoma Geophysical Society and the National, the U.S. Geological, and the U.S. Geological, survey convened a conference as a result of that to look at the evidence. They had two opposing experts who looked at it. They didn't come up with a consensus. Dr. Brown still believed that it showed multiple bombings. The other guy from the federal government that they had put in as their witness from the U.S. Geological Survey said, no, no, no, it doesn't.

But we consulted other independent. seismographers, and they agreed that the seismograms give us very compelling evidence that there was more than one explosion. You know, a couple other details when I'm thinking about this. Louis Free, I don't know how much you know about Louis Free, he seems to end up in some of the most consequential FBI investigations, at least as far as the public is concerned, and he always seems to be right there when a cover-up is needed of the deep state. That's kind of a separate story, but this might have been one of his big cases to kind of certify himself for the deep state, like, hey, I can do your dirty work. You need to call me in for a cover-up.

Louis Free is the name. Give me a call. Some other famous cases might be the Penn State operation with Jerry Sandusky and all the kids that were going through there. So that's kind of an aside, but I just wanted to bring that up. And I'm wondering, too, and maybe we're getting a little bit outside the lines here, but it sounds like, it almost sounds like maybe Oklahoma City was a dry run for September 11th, and the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center might have, again, I'm not trying to go into all this, but it's like maybe that was kind of the organic, like don't let a good crisis go to waste.

And the deep state said, oh, well, here we go. Now we've got this story out there that people want to blow up. buildings, hmm, now maybe we can use the FBI. We can entrap somebody in an MK alter program. They're driving what they think is a truck bomb in to do X, Y, or Z. We're really behind

the scenes making sure the operation is run how we wanted to run. And then we kind of see in that smaller scale thing in Oklahoma City how we can run it on September 11th. Again, I'm just kind of pontificating on all of this. You can feel free to respond or move on here. But again,

it's, you know, Louis Free is all over the place when it comes to these major consequential cases? Very much so. You're very right on that. Louis Free did his service for the deep state in Spades in Oklahoma City. And, you know,

he helped, I mean, he was the guy in charge of the FBI. You showed up a photo as we were talking there of Dr. Frederick Whitehurst. Louis Free was the guy in charge of deep-sixing him. So he was the guy who did the dirty work for Clinton and Janet Reno for there and for later on the L.A.on Gonzalez case and many other things that the Clinton administration wanted swept away or covered up. you know, Louis Free could have, well, Louis Free and Janet Reno both said, and then it was echoed by Bill Clinton, that we have conducted the most extensive investigation in history.

And they mentioned that they had over a million files, that they have thousands of interviews, but they never explained why they went out of their way to avoid interviewing or even checking out. the most obvious suspects for John Doe No. 2 and allies co-conspirators with Timothy McVeigh. One of the photos that you showed there was our cover of the New American that had the split image of Andres Strasmeyer and Timothy McVeigh. Andres Strasmeier was a German national who had explosives experience in the German army. he was brought over here on a special agreement by Louis Free with the BND, the German intelligence, and he came over here on a visa. His visa expired, so he was illegal. He was here illegally.

He was in rural Oklahoma, outside of Oklahoma City, as the chief of security and military training for a group. a so-called Christian identity extremist group that was known as Elohim City. They had a compound out in the woods. They called Elohim City. And Timothy McVeigh visited there. Timothy McVeigh called there on the same calling card. We actually got photocopies of the phone records before it was released

to the rest of the media of the Darrell Bridges phone card, which was Timothy McVeigh's phone card, that he called the rental truck rider agency to rent the truck that was used in the bombing. And right after he calls that, within minutes, he calls Elohim City and asks for Andreas Strasmeyer. Why did he do this? Well, Andrea Strasmeier was fingered by one of the most important witnesses in this case, Carol Howe. We have her on the cover of one of our magazines that you can see at the New American.com. She was an undercover agent for the alcohol, tobacco, and firearms in Elohim City. And the FBI outed her, could have gotten her killed. Her life was endangered. In fact, the ATF agent who was running her said the FBI endangered her life.

by fingering her because she said that Andrea Straussmeyer and Dennis Mahon, who is the head of the White Aryan resistance war, were definitely involved in the bombing plot and she had gone with them on a trial surveillance run before the bombing and that she warned that the bombing was coming and the ATF knew about this, and that's why there were no ATF officers in their office on the day of the bombing. So all of this was covered up. We were the first ones to do an interview with her and to put out her information and actually get the secret FBI 302s that had been hidden, and the ATF reports, and we have that on our website. So in this particular case, the FBI should have, in any reasonable scenario,

should have gone to arrest or at least interrogate Andres Drossmeyer and Dennis Mahon first off, because they had prime evidence that these guys were involved. And we know it's factual evidence. There was a close connection with Timothy McVeigh, multiple connections, which I haven't even gone into. But they went all over the rest of the world so that they could pad their numbers and say, well, we did all of this work.

We have a million documents. We have thousands of interviews. They waited until nine months after the bombing, and And Andreas Strasmeyer was still around the Oklahoma City area. Then he exfiltrated out through Mexico with a person who apparently was a CIA asset, a former Special Forces guy. And he goes back to Germany. And so we sent an investigator over to Germany to talk to him. And finally, the FBI sends a couple guys over there, a couple agents over there.

and they asked Andres Strasmeier if he was involved, and he says, no, he wasn't involved. And so, oh, okay, he's, he's, that's a, that's a dead end. He's not, he's not involved. I mean, it would be laughable if it were not so serious. But we're talking about the deaths of 168 people, the ruining of many lives, and the assault on our national security. William F. Jasper is our guest, the website, the new American.com. you've mentioned this a couple times, classified files. Do we know, are there still classified files that could be declassified? You know, there's a lot of push for some other files to be declassified.

It's the Epstein files. There's RFK, JFK, but what about the Oklahoma City bombing? Oh, there are many that can and should be declassified. And we're trying, there's a very heroic attorney. Jesse Trentadieu, who would make a very good interview for you, if you haven't already done it. He's in Salt Lake City. You'll see a couple of the articles that we've done on him. His brother was murdered in prison in Oklahoma City right after the bombing.

And there is a connection to the bombing and to Timothy McVeigh and a number of characters who we reported on in the Aryan Republican Army. otherwise known as the Midwest bank robbers who carried out a series of bank robberies in the 1990s before the Oklahoma City bombing. And Timothy McVeigh was involved with them. Dennis Mayhan and Andrea Strassmeyer were involved with them. Carol Howe is again one of the witnesses on that, but we have multiple other witnesses. One of the very good sources, aside from Jesse Trinidad, he has been carrying on with this for 30 years.

He's filed hundreds of FOIA requests and sued the government and has won in court, forced them to release quite a few documents. We used to have many of them on our website. Our website got sabotaged. We are putting them back up now. But Jesse has come up with a bunch more, and he has a new book coming out later this year, which will go into depth on that.

Another person who was extremely helpful in all of this is Kathy Wilburn Sanders. Kathy Wilburn and her husband, Glenn, her late husband, he passed away. Their grandparents of Jason Colton, Smith, two of the children that were in the daycare center at the Murrow Building. And the Wilburns bulldoggedly, relentlessly refused to give up on the case because they knew that there was more evidence out there.

They knew there was a massive cover-up. They knew that Timothy McVeigh wasn't alone. And so because of their status, as grandparents of survivors and their daughter who survived also, So they were able to get a lot of law enforcement and local people, other witnesses to talk to them. And then they helped me get in contact with a lot of these people. And that's how we advance this case. So that is, she has a new book that has just come out. And I don't have it right here in front of me.

the Kathy Wilburn, W-I-L-B-U-R-N. We have a number of articles in which she and her husband, Glenn, played an important part. All right, we just got 90 seconds left here. What was the purpose, what were the ramifications, the implications on the American people after this event, why they need to be so concerned that this event was lied about? that's the big question. Thank you for asking that. What happened as a result of that?

Well, it showed in what the obstacles that we had to overcome in trying to pursue this case. Many of the members of Congress who were good friends, bars, and who liked what we were doing, and many other publishers and editors of conservative media and even radio and talk show, said, hey, you're doing dynamite work. It's really excellent, but we're afraid to touch it. Clinton administration is deadly. They'd come after us, and we don't want to touch that. But keep on doing it.

So what did it do? It created fear. In Congress, we had just had the new takeover of the Republicans taking control of Congress. They were going to do all these wonderful things. They backed off on everything. they would refuse to do anything. And they refused to oppose the Clinton agenda, which we then later saw in the Bush and the Obama administrations after 9-11, that, oh, well, this indicates that we have to expand our police state, our surveillance, our awareness of all of the... And they still expanded every chance they get today.

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And as far as an expert on the secrets of the Vatican, the history of the Vatican and hell even the future of the Vatican, you're not going to get a better source than Leo Zagami. He's literally written the books on it. And he has accurately predicted in the past what the decisions coming out of the Vatican would be, not just with foreign policy issues, but also with decisions of who's going to be the next pope. So we're going to get his prediction on that.

We can talk about the significance of J.D. Vance being one of the last major, if not the last major world leader to meet with Pope Francis before he was, before he deceased this morning. We can talk about the, really, the complications of Pope Francis as the Pope and what that meant for the world and the Catholic world and the Vatican. So joining me now to discuss all of this is Leo Zagami. Well, Leo, you are the foremost expert as far as I'm concerned on the deep secrets of the Vatican and then, you know, accurately predicting the moves that they would make, the decisions that they would make. And so here you are a very consequential day as Pope Francis is deceased. You know, I guess I would, maybe I want to start it off like this, Leo. They have

been lying about the health situation of the Pope for months now. They've been lying. And it was clear to me that they were lying. You can go back and watch what we've been saying about it at Info Wars. Did you see that too? Did you notice that they have been to the public about the Pope's health? Why would they do that? Well, why will they do that? They will do that. So the Pope in the meantime continues to prepare the church for the next Pope.

You have to understand that the work that Pope Francis has conducted the last few years has been unprecedented. He has basically rigged the next conclave with 80% of the Cardinal electors, which is a very large number, almost unprecedented, if not unprecedented. What does it mean? It means that no matter what happens next, we know that it's going to be a progressive woke pope. And on leozygami.com today, I have published an article where I explain who are the two major figures that might become Pope. If you want, we can talk about that. And always a pleasure, of course, to be on the air with you, Owen. But this is an historical moment.

It's an historical moment because the Pope, one of the last nominations that the Pope did, was once again with a Detroit bishop that is an anti-Trampian. I mean, the US Bishop Conference is fueled with anti-Trump woke bishops who want, of course, to continue this migration effort to transform the United States. of America in a Catholic country because if you flood this country with Central American, South Americans in the end, you will have no longer a Protestant country, but a Catholic country. You have to understand, though, that the Jesuits have been present here in the United States of America from 1776 all the way till now.

I mean, they were involved with the very first steps of this great constitutional republic behind the scenes. And of course, now they have been very much against J.D. Vance on the subject of immigration, but that has been quite a while since they had this clash between J.D. Vance and the Pope. Already in February 2025, a political pointed out that it was highly likely that the next conclave would be highly politicized. Well, guys, don't worry. The next conclap will be not highly politicized, is completely rigged, it's going to be woke, the next pope, there's no conservatives around. I feel sad for actually J.D. Vance, because J.D. Vance is a newcomer to the Catholic faith.

He became a Catholic in August 2019. And like many others, he still believes that the traditional faction of the Vatican can maybe get things back on track. That's not going to happen. This is not going to happen. And it was very significant that J.D. Vance met with the Pope. It was, of course, the last official from the U.S. and last head of state as a vice president to visit the Pope, one of the last people to actually see him alive. Before he went on, of course, he was shown paraded around St. Peter Square for one last time. and then during the night he died.

But the health of Pope Francis has been in decline for a long time. But up until the last moment, I mean, up until he went to the hospital, Gemelli, where he stayed for a few weeks. This is a hospital I know very well, Owen, because I was born in the Gemelli Hospital where the Pope went. So this is a hospital I know very well, very close to the Vatican. And the Pope was up until the last minute trying to... move around all the various bishop and archbishops that he needed to craft the next papacy.

And there is going to be also surprise in the next papacy because Pope Francis, just as I announced in my famous book, Paul Francis, the last Pope question mark, is going to be the last Pope. And people will say, how comes? This is going to be actually a conclave in a few weeks and 20 days. well, the next Pope is going to be called Pope for a little while because last year the Jesuits and Pope Francis prepared a document that sanctions the end of papacy. That means that following ulterior studies that were done,

the Pope figure will in a way step down because it was historically created by Rome, this papacy and the supremacy of the Pope as the Bishop of Rome. But because of new historical findings that the Jesuits will finally unveil on the world, and because of these documents that they have been preparing very carefully, at one point they will announce that all bishops are the same. That is one step closer to the unity of all Christians, and they see the papacy office as an impediment, the Jesuits.

So this is going to be very interesting to see what's going to happen. Forget any Hollywood farce like the one we have seen in the recent movie Conclave because the next Pope is going to be either an African-American or an African. It's going to be either Cardinal Peter Thurkson, who is also a favorite of the World Economic Forum, a very dear friend of Klaus Schwab or Cardinald Wilton Daniel Gregory, a very dear friend of Barak. Hussein Obama. So this is the choice that at the moment is facing the Vatican. Of course, if you go into the mainstream media, NBC, or MSNBC, all this rubbish,

they will tell you, oh, there is maybe a possibility of a return of an Italian in the throne of St. Peter. It's all propaganda. There is never going to be the possibility of an Italian getting back into the throne of St. Peter because at the moment, actually, Catholicism is spreading. more and more and becoming more relevant in third world countries and in particular in Africa. That's why Peter Thurtson seems to be the choice, but we could also have a surprise and have instead Wilton Daniel Gregory, who is, of course, an anti-Trumpian, a staunch opponent

of Donald J. Trump. Everything that happens in our society is guided by the Jesuits. They were the one who created this immigration crisis in the first place. They are the ones who have convinced the Supreme Court here in the United States to take a stand against Donald J. Trump for the 798 Enemy Act. So this is basically a Jesuit coup d'état that is not only religious, but is also political. The fact that now the media is coming out showing you J.D. Vance as the last visit and the Pope convincing him that, immigration. I mean, it was only a few minutes. The visit was more or less a thought-up. And of course, the Pope gave some Easter eggs for his children. I just want to clear up a fact here.

JD Vance is sincere, but he has to be very careful if he doesn't want to end up like Mike Pence. Mike Pence was the Judas of Donald J. Trump. And he became the Judas of Donald J. Trump exactly one year after visiting Pope Francis for a private session with the Pope that lasted an hour, something very different from what we saw with the JD Banks. So, of course, we go see all this unbeating in the next few weeks. I doubt it's going to be another Jesuit pope. Actually, this Pope is not going to even be buried in the Vatican. For the first time, a Pope will be buried out of the Vatican territory in Santa Maria Maggiore.

And why is that? Because the Jesuits are very close to this particular church, one of the biggest basilicas in Rome, and the Jesuits have decided for Pope Francis that he would be buried there. So that is also an unprecedented move that we're going to be seeing. You see, I am about to publish a book about the Jesuits and the history and the secret society politics of the Jesuit New World Order and their Luciferian court. Because everything has been created by them. The European Union, the Bilderberg Club, everything else has a Jesuit.

China has become a globalist power with Shanghai because of the Jesuits. People don't know the almost 500-year-old link between China and the Jesuits. So everything that pertains to the Jesuits and also to the first Jesuit Pope. You see, the first Jesuit pope managed to be... And that's Pope Francis? Yes, Pope Francis is the first Jesuit pope in history because... And you predicted that, by the way. You predicted that back in the day on the Alex Jones show years ago.

He said the next pope would be a Jesuit. And just like you've made the prediction of who the next pope would be, you, I mean, you were, you're putting your entire reputation on line. I mean, you're making the names of the predictions. And that's quite a sterling reputation for you to, for you to put on the line there. So I tip my cap, I'm glad to have you on today to say so. But you are 100% right about that. Yeah, I think that people need to realize that what is about to manifest.

You see, recently we had the death of the former Diffrock Cardinal McCarrick. Do people know who McCarrick really was? McCarrick was a Jesuit agent connected to the Sangallan Mafia, who, by the way, used Nancy Pelosi to deliver messages to China. And it was thanks to Cardinal McCarick that the Jesuits in the fall of 2018 managed to put together an unprecedented deal with China that still goes on. It's been renewed already two times. and even if Christianity is being persecuted more than ever in China, the Catholic Church is alive and well because they made a pact with Satan. They actually accepted the bishops nominated by the Chinese Communist Party. So I see this too, and this is why it's so important for you to be on sorting all this out.

I see a lot of American Catholics, as you kind of mentioned earlier, a lot of American Catholics have hope that the next Pope is going to be a, conservative. It's kind of a funny thing to say, but it's just true. You know, more Christian, more Catholic in the things that he says and believes and supports, not woke, like we've seen really the direction, I think, since probably the latest John Paul, and most recently, with Pope Francis taking it farther than ever. And so it sounds to me, when I hear you describe this, Pope Francis, at least in the latter years, I mean, it sounds like Pope Biden, It sounds like Pope Biden here. He wasn't in charge of anything.

He didn't even, you know, I mean, I'm not to be graphic here, but, you know, he probably wasn't even in charge of his own bowel movements and, you know, cleaning himself up afterwards. So who was really filling the conclave with all of the woke leftists so that when Francis finally, you know, met his maker? I mean, the timing of it is almost uncanny, almost unbelievable. But, you know, Pope Francis deceased as of this morning. the conclave had already been built to make sure that his legacy as moving towards woke ideology continues. But who is really making those decisions? I mean, Pope Francis seems like he's been out of it for at least six months.

Well, this is a question that will need probably a whole day to answer, but I will give you a very synthetic answer. The Jesuits, starting from Padre Pedro Rupert, who was a black pope, a Jesuit general, started a new course after the Second Vatican Council. briefly he clashed with John Paul the second who wanted to actually take over the Jesuits because they were a threat and even Ratzinger tried to take over the Jesuits. Paradoxically Ratzinger wanted to place

Bergoia's head of the Jesuits but he refused because he knew that the Jesuits behind the scenes were working to make Ratzinger resign which they eventually did. So Bergoio went back into the grace of the Black Pope which is

by tradition the Super Bowl general of the Jesuits by refusing to become the commissioner. This is something that was also confirmed and revealed by the secretary of Joseph Rasinger, Pope Benedict the 16th. But there was this mafia of Sangallin, this group of Jesuits, very powerful priests, Freemasons that used to meet up in Switzerland in a place, which, by the way, a very important place for the Catholic European establishment in Switzerland. and it was actually the Mafia of San Gallen

which had pushed Bergoglio to become Pope even in 2005. But at the time, Bergogio refused because he had still too many skeletons in the closet. I mean, this guy had just fathered a child. In 2014, Tomazito, the alleged child of Pope Francis, died.

He had an illegitimate child. This was also reported by the... the way by as communicated as Bishop Carlo Maria B. Gano. But apart from that, he had skeletons in the closet also to do with the dirty war in

Argentina. Let's not forget that he actually supported the dictatorship in Argentina and that the dictatorship in Argentina was a branch of the P2 in Italy. And during that time

two Jesuits ended up for five months being tortured and arrested because they were leftist Jesuits, of course. And that was the moment in which Bergoglio broke for a few years with the Jesuit order. Between, he was kicked out as superior for the province there in Argentina. And then he reemerged in the early 90s as bishop in 92. And then, of course, axillary bishop of Buenos Aires. And then he went back into his career. But it was actually Freemasony that helped Pope Francis reemerge.

And then it was because he renounced at the time Ratzinger's offers to take over the Jesuit order. At that point, the Jesuits with Hans Covenbeck, thank him very much. And it was possible for him to become Pope with the support of both the Vatican as well as the Borgo Santo Spirit, which is the order of the Jesuits. So the history of Pope Frank State. It's the deep state of the Vatican, if you will. Yes. And what's amazing is I'm hearing you talk because I'm Catholic.

I was raised in a Catholic church. And I remember John Paul, Pope John Paul, the latest, you know, he was breathing life into the Catholic Church. He was, you know, Catholics followed the Vatican at that time. he was a meaningful, he was a meaningful, he was a significant symbol of the Catholic Church. And really there has not been one since. And I think now you're talking 20 years later, I mean, I look at Catholic Americans, they seem unaffected by what goes on at the Vatican. They seem disinterested in what happens at the Vatican.

Is that all part of the design? I look at the Vatican now as whoever the leader is with the Pope, it's all about expansion for propaganda. It's all about, okay, Pope Francis was about open borders, illegal immigration, and making sure that that propaganda would be controlled in the Catholic Church. Would the next Pope, obviously coming from the woke ideology, as you're predicting here, but would the next Pope be maybe the one to kind of grease the skids and say, hey, you know, an AI-controlled world government is a good thing.

This isn't the mark of the beast. This is all great. You should accept this. This is better. So if Pope Francis was the open borders, illegal immigration pope, do you think that's the next agenda? First, let's clear one thing. The Democratic Party here in the United States is a branch of the Jesuit order of the company of Jesus.

Alexander Ocasio-Cortez presented themselves with an official bio in 2018 on America, the Jesuit Review. Bernie Sanders went and met with the Pope. and he was basically, he's a fifth class, what we call a fifth class Jesuit agent. You see people like Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sander, Alexander Casio-Cortez, these are called fifth-class Jesuit agents. You have the fourth bow, which is taken only by those Jesuits who enter, then, of course, the absolute obedience to the Pope and become like 007 for the entity, the Vatican intelligence. And then you have the fifth class.

And the fifth class is where you have all the elite. And at the moment, of course, they are very upset because they had a puppet in the White House with Joe Biden. They were hoping to have another puppet with Kamala Harris. And now they are fighting to create possibly a new generation with Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, because that's their choice. And of course, with the support of Barry Sanders. And this is completely satanic. We know that the Jesuits will support an AI-driven world,

a completely controlled planet by AI and robotics. Because, of course, they have been discussing Dix for years. And in fact, I wrote a whole trilogy, Volume 6.66, Volume 7, Volume 9, dedicated to Cyber Satan, and how the Jesuits behind the scenes have been working. together with Freemasons to also establish the one-world religion. I mean, there has been clear moves towards the one-word religion for Pope Francis since early 2019, all the way through the pandemic, in which he even went to visit in the middle of the pandemic, the Iraqi Shiite leaders.

So, I mean, their choice is, of course, a globalist choice. and the Jesuit plan to sabotage immigration policies goes also through the Supreme Court and for also those judges who are linked in one way or another to the Jesuit order. You have to understand. Trump studied for two years at Fordham University. But I am about to publish in my new book evidence that he rejected the offers from two, not one, two secret societies based at Fordham that wanted him to judge. join. Instead, like, even myself, I had to admit, at high school, I studied with the Jesuits.

And I think it's a great experience. If you survive their brainwashing, just like, because at that point, just like Donald J. Trump, you become knowledgeable with their way, their machiavellian because they are extremely Machiavellian and they are really skilled. So if you do what Trump by studying theology and philosophy at Fordham, you do a good thing because you understand the enemy even better. And that's why they hate Donald Trump. I even have evidence that I'm going to bring out in my new book about how they hate him in Fordham.

And this is evidence. I mean, it's documents. So, I mean, I hope that people realize the stupid people sometimes go, you know, and say, oh, but Trump studied with the Jesuits. So he's one too. let me tell you, they hate him, and there is evidence that they hate him. So that's how we did. On the other side of this break, Leo Zagami is my guest, literally written multiple books,

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and, you know, Leo, you were mentioning, I've been covering this as well from a different angle, just the raw political angle of Bernie Sanders and AOC going to burn down the Democrat establishment. And clearly there is a lot of infighting and a fracture inside the Democrat Party as far as how they need to handle their business before the midterms. And that's, do they just go full anti-Trump or do they go back to more moderate? but I see Bernie Sanders leading the charge right now to just burn the whole thing behind him. Now I don't know if he has presidential aspirations. At first I didn't.

Now I think maybe he does with this tour that he's doing, gaining momentum and then bringing AOC up along with him as a national figure. But you're saying this is a deeper thing. Either way, you can clearly see what Sanders is doing right now is not typical script for an off-year, no-election cycle, what he's doing right now to kind of burn down the Democratic. party with AOC, who I guess they see as the future. But I want to get back to the situation with the Pope.

So Pope Francis' final days basically like Pope Biden, not really in control. They set up the conclave to make sure that the next Pope is going to be just like the last or maybe worse. And whatever the agenda is with Pope Francis, open borders, legal immigration, the next pope probably supporting AI, putting a microchip in you, telling you it's great. it's not the mark of the beast. Is that where you see this going? Is there more to it?

When do you think we know? For sure, when do they make the announcement of the new Pope? Well, first of all, there will be a period of mourning, and then there will be the conclave that will take place in 15 to 20 days. And then after the classical white smoke that comes out of the Vatican, you have the election of the new Pope. Going back, though, to the fragility of Pope Francis, he was still very much in charge, though, up until even his appointment of Bishop Edwards-Basbourg, which was just two or three days before he was brought into the Gemelli Hospital. He was definitely more in charge than Biden ever was.

Biden is a typical Jesuit agent, a puppet, who of course was in much worse conditions, mentally speaking. The Pope instead regained his mental faculties were deaf, I think, until at least he went into the Gemelli Hospital. Then from that moment onwards, of course, he suffered very much. and that's why all the main decisions were done also in regards to the next conclave and the nomination of the last cardinals. Up until December he was nominating more and more cardinals that could rig the next conclave. So I have followed very closely, as you can imagine, this major situation happening in the Vatican. but we have to understand that for the pope, the most important subject was immigration,

and especially in Europe, to actually have a black pope in the sense, not any longer of a Jesuit, because that's how traditionally they call the head of the Jesuits, but an African-American or an African pope will mean a more welcoming church, and because that is really the most important subject that they have been pushing up until the very end

with the visit of J.D. Vance, I think that we will definitely have a black pope in the sense of the skin being black. Of course, there is a prophecy that concerns that. There is many urban, also, legends about the possibility of the arrival of this kind of pope with a black skin at the end times. I would say though that like I mentioned earlier, we are talking about a papacy that is already going towards the end because they have prepared, like I was stating earlier, a document that was elaborated and then was published last year.

And this document is a document that will lead inevitably to the one-word religion and casting aside the office of Pope, which is, like I said, earlier regarded as an obstruction towards that project. You see, at the moment, in the worldwide scenario of churches, the Orthodox Church of Kirill in Moscow is the only one opposing the one-word religion. And that is also another reason for this war. The Pope has been actively encouraging the distraction of the churches of the actual Orthodox Ukrainian church under Moscow. There was a big change in 2018 that pushed more and more the Ukrainian Orthodox Church towards the Western values and also towards Bartolomeo, the other patriarch, which is in constant. Wasn't Zelensky actually forcing Orthodox Christians

and Catholic churches to close? Wasn't he closing? Well, of course, if they didn't bow down to the Ukrainian church that was created and was sanctioned by law as the only church and wasn't, of course, the one under Moscow, still up to a couple of weeks ago,

even last week, there were persecutions in Orthodox Church that are under the Moscow Patriarchart. There is a real problem there. This is, first of all, a religious war, and people have to understand that. Even Donald J. Trump, when he talks about bringing peace, he has to understand there is a big fraction,

there's a big problem there going on, because the Vatican has historically been behind opposition to Russia. Imagine that during the Second World War, when the SS and the Nazis were invading Russia, the Jesuits were working with them. So just to give you an idea, of course the Jesuits then also were working on the other side with the masons in case the Nazis will fail.

But the Jesuits have always played both sides in a way. Well, and it might be fair to say, to expand on that, it might be fair to say Russia, and I don't know if this to a T would be fair to say, but Russia has a very large influential country, probably has the largest traditional Christian culture and maybe the largest Orthodox Catholic church in the world. And so that's kind of an established thing right now, I would say.

And then Africa, if the Catholic church is seeing a rapid expansion anywhere, it's in Africa. So these two things come into play as far as who's the next Pope going to be and where he has to stand on these issues. Now, there is also another thing. You see, there is many different realities in Orthodoxes, and now it's very fashionable here in the United States for a lot of even Catholics, men, especially men, to embrace the Orthodox faith.

Well, I want to warn them, if it's not the Orthodox Church under Kili, Kiril and Russia, all the other Orthodox churches are already infiltrated and work together with the Vatican. So you are just... Oh, you go downtown, you go downtown Austin, and I can only speak for all. Austin. I moved from St. Louis, which is a very well-known Christian Catholic conservative area. I didn't really see it there, but the

times have changed since I've moved here. You go to big Catholic churches, even the Christian churches here in Austin. You go down there. It's gay flags. It's trans. Kids. It's open borders. I mean, it's total propaganda. But that's why this is

pushing a lot of people to actually inquire elsewhere, and most of them end up in the Orthodox reality, but they have to be warned. The Orthodox reality is a very fracturality, of course, because it doesn't have a centralized authority, but most of them, aside from the Moscow one, they actually, and the one present here in the United States are mostly not the Russian one, are working with the Vatican. They're already preparing to unite because they all want to become one thing with this one-word

religion that is going to bring Islam, Christianity, Judaism, all together. So, and of course, they have to have their controlled assets in each one of these groups willing to lay down their sword and shield, you know, as the symbolism here, to allow the one world of religion to come in. And I guess we'll see if that's the agenda of this next Pope. I'm curious before I close out with you with the next Pope, because I'm kind of of the mind right now that I think they've already decided, but I'll let you get the final say on that. Here's a headline from earlier today on the Gateway Punant. He will have to account for the crimes he has committed.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano publishes scathing response to news of Pope Francis's death. I wonder if you'll respond to that. And I know there's been some other criticisms of the movements coming out of the Vatican. I believe Cardinal Raymond Burke was one of them as well. There might be some other names I'm not mentioning right here. not coming to mind. It's a minority inside the Catholic Church, but there have been voices warning about what's been going on at the Vatican. Well, there was even the Knights of Malta that was at one point trying to fight the progressive policies of Pope Francis. In the end,

in 2002, the whole thing was dissolved, and the Jesuits took over the show, and Pope Francis took over the order. And you could notice, actually, on Friday, when J.D. Vance went into St. Peter's for the Mass, the Knights of Malta, they were watching him very harshly, because now the Knights of Malta, the Supreme Military Order of Malta, is no longer what it used to be. So any institution within the church that oppose the progressive view is put aside. I mean, Maria Vigano, Carlo Maria Vigano, is actually excommunicated. So he doesn't have a say in the future of the church. He might have a say as a powerful, voice for those who realize he was unjustly put aside. I mean, I understand that Pope Francis deuretic, not Carlo Maria Viganon, but unfortunately for the administration of this church is the Jesuits and the progressive side that have now control of the whole thing.

So if you are a Catholic these days, the only thing is to live your Catholicism with yourself, with God. There is those traditions, it's of course, love, light in mind. like J.D. Vance seems to be one of them, or at least he talked very well about Latin masses. But in the end, administratively, even those hundred priests who went and exercised Mar-a-Lago, they're a very good priest, they're very good people. And of course they went and blessed Mar-a-Lago, and they went and met with Donald J. Trump. And they brought this beautiful statue of the Holy Mary.

But unfortunately, they are a minority. And a Catholic church is doomed. He's doomed. And actually, if you went back in time, the first American bishop was John Carroll. Do you know what the Carol family did at the beginning of the United States of America? His brother, Daniel Carroll, was one of the founding fathers, congressman from Maryland. And the other brother also, actually, there was a cousin also very important. This Carol family became the way the Jesuits infiltrated.

They were direct descendants of the Calverts, a very important Catholic family to whom King Charles the First of England had granted Maryland as a feudal barony. The actual territory in which Washington DC is built, well, was called Rome. The river that you had one of the, I mean, it's all linked to the Vatican. I know this finger will horrify a lot of patriots, but you have to understand that at that time in 1776, the Jesuits had been kicked out of the Vatican. And they were trying to find a way to still defeat Great Britain and support, of course. Well, I think George Washington wrote a lot about that actually in his diaries. You can find a lot of historical works.

George Washington talked about that and other secret societies. And, of course, the obelisk there in Washington, the Washington monument, same obel. is in the Vatican and other places around the world. Before we reach your conclusion here, we got about five minutes left, I'm of the mindset that they've already decided who the new Pope is, but you accurately predicted that Pope Francis would be the next one. How were you able to predict that? So how are you able to predict that?

And then what are those same, you know, measurements and things going on in your head that make you predict the next one? Well, Pope Francis was not only Jesuit. He was a Freemason. I told you about his past in our first. Argentina with the P2. I was personally linked myself to the P2 lodge, the Monte Carlo branch. So, of course, I knew about the name of Bergoglio, especially when he opposed Tarchizio Bertone

with the Rassinger's offer. And what was happening in the Sangallan Mafia wasn't really a secret for people within certain branches of Freemasonry. Now we know that the future pope will be. probably Peter Turkson, or at least he would be a black pope in the sense. He might even be Wilton Daniel Gregory, because if you put a first African-American pope, who is openly anti-Trampian, it's going to be somebody really anti-Trampian. It's going to be somebody who fights the present administration in the White House.

So this is the future pope. I published an article on liosagami.com. You can check it out. And I said two names, either Cardinal Peter Tuxon or other Cardinal, Wilton, Daniel Gregory. This is my take on the whole thing. Then we're going to, of course, see what is manifesting from the Vatican. They will, of course, romanticize the whole process.

They will talk about it for weeks now. But in reality, with 87% of the Cardinal electors being decided by Pope Francis, the result is simply a reflection of the policies of Pope Francis, which, by the way, were the policies of the Jesuit order of Padre Pedro Araupe after the second Vatican Council, which were fought by John Paul II, who fought this Padre Pedro Orup, and then, of course, we had his follow-up, which was Hans Kauvenbach, then Adolf Nicholas, and now we have, Imagine the present head of the Jesuits is a Venezuelan, is a communist, a full-on communist, Father Sosa. And they even invented along the lines of the Second Vatican Council the term eco-Jesuit to fight climate change.

So this is what the Vatican is proposing. More leftism, more walkies, more climate change lies, and so on. And of course, also a very strong alliance with China, which, I mean, we still don't know the actual content of this alliance, which has been official. I mean, and it's been renewed in 2022, 2004, but we still don't know what is the deal there. And the deal is that, of course, is nothing to do with religion. It's all to do with politics, because the instrumental use of religion is what makes the job. Jesuits so insidious. They don't care about Jesus.

When they visited the East, as soon as they were established in 1540, they went towards the East with the first missionaries. Their intent wasn't to bring them Jesus Christ when they went to Japan or China or India. Their intent was

to work for the Spanish Empire, the Portuguese Empire, and to work for power. Even when they took over the Inquisition, from the Dominicans, they are not about religion. They're about opportunity. And the opportunity at the moment here in America is very clear. They have brought millions of Catholics into the country.

And of course, immigration reform is one of their priority. And they will continue, if possible, to flood this country with Catholic immigrants until they take over the whole show. So this is what's, going to happen with Catholicism. It's not going to be unfortunately suddenly a traditionalist figure bringing us back those values who are pre-Batican Council. Because the Second Vatican Council, which went on in the first part of the 1960s, has changed

forever the nature of the Catholic Church. It can never be the same. It's been sabotaged by this union of intents of both the Jesuits and the Freemasons together. they have worked together very much to sabotage what was left of Christian within the Catholic faith. If you don't realize that, you're simply naive. So I hope that J.D. Vance realizes that. And I hope that it doesn't fall into the same trap of Mike Pence, which leads inevitably to political irrelevance. So I hope. I really pray for J.D. Vance because I have a lot of hope for this.

for this man and for the future of the United States. I'm now an American citizen. The last time we spoke, I wasn't. Since last year, I also formally renounced to my Italian citizenship because I don't. But you can't leave your accent behind. That accent will stick with you forever. There's nothing that we can do. Leo Zagami, excellent work as always.

Your book's fantastic. Your breakdown's fantastic. We'll revisit this soon. And I'm sure your predictions will come right just as they did before. Gami, Leozegami.com, thank you very much. God bless and Medi. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I am going to jump over to the Info Wars Warroom studio where I'll be doing three hours of hard-hitting news coverage.

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