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nothing matters Chase that feel until you die. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. It is Wednesday, December 17th, 2025, coming to you from the Embattled Studios in Austin, Texas. And every day, things just get completely more insane. And we have Nick Fuentes joining us at 1 p.m. Central for two hours. I'm going to try to get Carl Serafin on as well.

Two weeks ago, he said that he believed on this show that the FBI director, Deputy Director Brunzino would be gone by Christmas. And then he exclusively broke yesterday that his office is cleaned out when the staff was gone, that he's already gone. That hit the New York Times today. He called me yesterday after the show and said,

hey, well, let's break this tomorrow. And I said, why not now? Because he knew it was going to break tomorrow. And he said, well, he might not quit tomorrow because he disliked Seraven so much. Just to make me look bad, and I said, he's not going to do that. And look, the real story is, why did Bongino leave? And it's because he was pissed off over the handling of the Epstein situation. Leaked Epstein file talking points.

instruct Republicans on how to point blame away from Trump. But then you read it, it's because Trump's not doing anything wrong in any of it, as you've seen. Oh, all these files, oh, 90 plus thousand from the Epstein estate. Oh, and all the grand jury stuff Trump once released and the Democrats try to block it. People keep saying, give us the list. There's not some holy grail. there's 35 years of stuff and 20 years of criminal stuff and civil stuff

so there's always more, more and more because as the cases go on and the civil lawsuits and all of it, it just keeps generating more and more and more and more. It's like a black hole. And that's why Trump wanted the case shut down. And that's what Roger Stone told me

when he was president elect. He said the CIA and others know it's beside MI6, the royal family and the CIA and they've told Trump you're never going to get any of it anyways it's all been the real stuff's been destroyed and so Trump goes all right well screw it then let's move on and I said do not do that it's a setup and I was a hundred percent right you remember back when all this stuff started like eight nine months ago and I and I said that that's not von gino and Patel getting up there on fox news like during the headlights looking like they were hostages their eyes all wide oh no Epstein killed himself an act of and wasn't a predator and they've been ordered to do that and I said it's Trump people said you're a traitor

it's not Trump you're trying to undermine him and I said no it's Trump and two days later came out it was Trump and you heard Trump say if you're my supporter and you believe in this hoax well then you're not my supporter go away so he sent Roger up there to explain sir you mean you exposed

Epstein you kicked him out of the club Epstein told reporters years ago that you're the guy that dropped a dime on him. You need to explain. Epstein's a bad guy, as you said many times before, in countless interviews, but targeting you is a hoax, the new Russia hoax targeting you. And Trump came out

and gave press conferences and explained that, and his poll numbers went back up a little. But then he just goes back and does it again, because he's right. It is a black hole, but you've got to navigate the black hole correctly. So he's set

to address the nation tonight at 8 p.m. Central 9 p.m. Eastern, and people are speculating on what he's going to say, because it hasn't leaked what he's going to say, I can tell you what he's going to do.

It's going to be a lot. He's talking about the accomplishments, the country, how we're turning the economy around affordability, and what he inherited, and then there's a good chance he's going to escalate the situation,

which he's already done in Venezuela, with the total blockade of their oil tankers. But it needs to not just be a bunch of the cheerleader he does, where he goes, oh, we got 19 trillion investment coming, and, you know, $5 trillion or where we're already here, and we're building all these factories. Yes, that's good. But you'd explain to people not just how great it is.

This is the best economy, and we fix inflation, because that's not true. We're pulling out of it. All the right things are being done. But people don't like being told something they know it's not true. The economy is in bad shape for a whole lot of different reasons. We never recovered from the COVID lockdowns where anybody in business will tell you. They can't even get people to come take the jobs.

Most of the federal buildings are still half empty. don't even work, making people, or paying people to sit home for a year and longer in other parts of the world, really broke the back of the economy, which is what the great reset was meant to do. It was designed to sabotage the industrial civilization. You spin up a society, you spin up a complex system, you want to keep that engine running. Unlike a regular engine, you don't want to run for 20 hours straight. It's bad for them. With an economy and big complex systems, you've got to keep them humming and keep them growing and keep them going. Because a lot of competent people over the centuries and centuries and centuries built us industrially to this level. And it is so complex now.

So we're going to be getting to all of that and what's happening in the economy. Brianna Morello, the awesome reporter, journalist, and host the American Journal this morning. I called her up about 7.30, and I said, hey, will you look into this big story? And so her and Matt and some of the crew called Brown University, sent the messages, and said, why did you scrub this individual off of your faculty list and just erase that he was ever there? of the head of the Islamic Studies Department and they said, oh, because we were afraid he was going to be doxed.

So day one, they thought he would be docks because he's a Muslim. Now, when I saw this individual and noticed this a few days ago when this got picked up and I looked at the surveillance footage they'd given us and they didn't want to give us the higher quality inside, but then I blew it up and looked at the face and the neck and the way he walks because he's been at Palestinian demonstrations and all of it. I don't need to be an NSA gate program to tell you, boy,

that person sure walks like the person in the surveillance videos, but I'm not saying it's him. I was going to wait. But, boy, they don't have a reward out. They didn't want to put out description. They've been very slow on everything. well you give us a description oh we'll put it on the website later they all look like they're totally freaked out and scared and then officer brandon tatum who was a very smart individual and police officer when he was a police officer he was promoted very quickly um you know into administration and and the press arm so he understands how all these things work he pointed out what all of us that just have you know studied these cases in the past normally the police are giving you a whole bunch of information you need your help

the the faculty and the police chief looked scared to death so I'm not saying this individual is the person I'm simply showing you what what Brandon Tatum put out and some other people and that was the headline and so I'm going to be getting to this later later in the hour now

I know there's a cover-up going on as I've said the last few days from the body language the behavior everything's going on I don't know if it's a cover-up of this guy it could be that there's a pudgy guy that walks exactly the same and walks with his hands behind his back that went and did

this and he can be a white guy or whatever he does have very very pale skin the same cheeks that are pudging out around the mask the same pot belly the same penchant for baggy black clothing but that's probably all just a coincidence

there was also another Islamic stabbing in Washington State where they lured the police there the 911 call, 911 call, and then a stab the officer in the neck and in the back and tried to kill him. That was suppressed for the last few weeks, but now with his arraignment, it came out his name and what he was doing and that he was in conducting jihad. So that's just another example of how that's just a local newspaper thing you'll never

hear about on the national news because they make sure you don't. And there's a whole bunch more. People at Christmas events all over the country, it's been like five attacks I've seen you come out of church you walk out to the apartment you about buy some lights at the front of the church and a Muslim runs over and dumps acid

on your face we've also got shocking footage of Muslims by the tens of thousands surrounding Melbourne Cathedral and chanting and waving their Islamic flags because under Islam that church is going to get

destroyed. Now, occasionally, they decided to turn it into a mosque, like the Constantinople a big cathedral. It's now the blue mosque. But again, here's the Brandon Tatum headline. Suspect identified in Brown University's shooting

as school deletes pro-Palestinian student off website. That's a pretty bold headline. I'm not saying that's accurate. It could be that whoever the shooter is just walks and

has the same body and the same pudgy face and the same super light skin I I mean there's a I mean there's a chance that's not the case

but when we reached out to them again I'm going to recap this in more detail because I wasn't really ready to go to it and I noticed I'm mad we kind of free for all here the crew thought I was going to they already putting it all up I was going to do later so I've got more I'm collating here

we sent them this message this morning as you may know rumors are swirling online about the enrolled student that recently had his page removed from the Brown University website additionally witnesses have stated in video

conferences and online that a la Akbar was screamed but the police by the way asked about to tell the public because of the investigation over covering it up was shouted out moments of before the shooting occurred. Is this person a potential suspect of the shooting? Why was his profile removed from your website?

Is this person still attending classes? Is there any merit to the claims that Allah Akbar was shouted by the shooter or at the time of the shooting? Now, I haven't gotten to the big enchiladas on this and the video and the audio and all of it and what Brandon Tatum said and what others are saying. I'm going to do that. at the bottom of the hour, so just in about 12, 13 minutes. So I'm going to table that now, and then I'm going to just tell you some of the other things that are coming up, and then I'm going to jump in to the situation at the White House that is critical. And again, I'm not mad at this guy.

I like him. Everybody knows, you know, cat turd. Trump likes him, goes to the White House, all that. Someone attacking cat turd, I'm saying, cat turd is emblematic of just totally defending Trump, no matter what, and then we're saying, hey, we're smart, we understand the base, we are the base, if something makes me mad, you can bet it makes pretty much everybody,

or 90% of MAGA mad. I mean, if I see something to get outraged, I mean, I know I'm going to go, look, what you're saying is basically what I'm saying, because we're logical, we're informed, we're engaged. And what I was telling you, in the last six, seven months, that Trump was really hurting himself with some of the things he was doing, we need to put pressure on administration to stop that to course correct, and they have some, I did it from a place of needing Trump to succeed.

I mean, I've got real skin in the game. The Democrats said they want to get back in, and they want to come after me even worse. plus they're going to wreck the country for everybody. I mean, we really need Trump to succeed. But you don't do that just blindly with whatever's going on with some of the special interests that can get in there, and then they start having some bad policies.

And then people say, well, don't really cover those because it makes you look bad. You got it backwards. We need to do what's right regardless. And when you do what's right in life, it's almost always better for everybody. But regardless, God's watching. So I haven't wanted to say that Susie Wiles is a villain.

But I do know that if you criticize her, she will do a lot to block your access to the president and all the rest of it. I have never courted access to the White House. I have never kissed ass. I, quite frankly, have been invited. and to both Marlago and to the White House, they didn't push too hard, and I knew what it was going to be,

so I didn't go. And, you know, the way it works, oh, Roger, oh, Trump just called me, he was watching the show. He wants us to come to dinner. When can you come? I'm like, okay, well, tell me when set up. Roger calls me the next Tuesday.

Well, I went up there, had dinner. He said he missed not seeing him. I was like, Roger, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, I was invited. So it's a couple of things at Marlago where Trump comes out and pats everybody on the head and says you're good. And here's the deal.

I know going and being seen with Trump is like a red cape to the left. And it's not that I don't want to be attacked by him, but that combination freaks them out so bad that it's not that I'm scared to go be seen with him, but I can like a submarine run around attacking the enemy and not just wave red capes in their face. Whereas I can advise Trump, I can advise his advisors

I can get information on the air that gets to him constantly and so we have a bigger effect talking to 20, 30, 40 million people today and having all you call Congress and call and talk radio and that's what really gets to Trump is when he hears something over

and over and over and over again. So I've learned the best way to communicate with Trump is in a big spectacular way. not me like, oh, Mr. President, you ought to do this. He's got all this stuff swirling around. But when he sees like a watchtower, you know, lit when the enemy's coming on the yonder hill, he gets the, that, that gets Trump's attention.

And you see it all the time where we're having big effects of the administration and our guests and things. And they summon guests from the show, from watching the show, J.D. Vance a few weeks ago, brought up a Mark Mitchell when they saw the show to warn Trump and tell him what he needs to do because J.D. Vance agreed. And Susie Walsh was there, and, you know, she was listening, and Trump was there for about 45 minutes and agreed to a lot of it. And we even saw some course correction out of that meeting. So I don't want to say Susie Wiles is the bad person. Plus, when you, you know, you're told, oh, it's a Vanity Fair interview.

Oh, she did this other TV interview. And I saw that, you know, the camera interview, and she's saying stuff like, yeah, you never really sleeps. he's superhuman and I mean I thought she came off as very genuine in the interview and very real I mean obviously she's high energy I mean we're not trying to make her look mad showing

photos of her with her eyes bugging out that's pretty much what she looks like all the time so she's credited by people I trust like really getting Trump where he got partial control of the Republican Party when he almost had no control before. So I'm not trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I just know this. Trump, Green-lit, Ed Martin's task force investigating, and I was persecuted by the DOJ and the CIA. And when he started an investigation into them, not just stuff you heard about, but a lot more, it came from Susie Wiles to Todd Blanch, the deputy head of the DOJ, he really runs it.

Nothing against Pambani, but it's just known. She goes and gets her hair done and goes and exercises and flies up once or twice a week for a day to D.C. and does press conferences. So I don't, I mean, she just basically isn't even the, she's just a talking head. And that's what Trump wanted it for was to be a PR person, but it's still bad because you have a Democrat, Todd Blanche, and they're running it. So that's a big strike right there. And there's a lot of other stuff. But her instincts are to really just be too mainstream of an old-fashioned Republican.

And people don't want that. They want revolution. They want action. And we're seeing that with Kennedy. We're seeing it with Tom Homan. We're seeing it with DHS. We're seeing it trying to end these wars. I mean, I'm seeing so many good things.

But we cannot lie to anybody here and not say that Trump is in trouble. Now, he's always able in the past to pull it out and issues change and new things develop. But it is a fundamental loss of trust with how the Epstein thing was handled. And that created the ground for people, you know, really not knowing what happened with Charlie Kirk. And just one successive PR disaster after the next. And I'd like it to old James. Bond movie where, you know, the agent comes in to Spector and there's aquariums all around the office and there's aquariums under it with sharks and the head of Specker doesn't like

what the, what the agent's done. So he hits a button and the floor opens up and you follow the sharks. Like it or not, Trump is the floor. And if Trump fizzles out and they win the midterms and then all the impeachment stuff cranks up, they could get him this time. And that is the equivalent of dropping the country and all of us in our future into that. So again, it's great to critique Trump all day and I do it to get him back on track. But people that aren't going to support him or the good stuff that is happening are crazy and people that think he's perfect or crazy. And I know I've harped on this a lot, but it's a big deal. Now, I don't know if Susie Wiles really said some of the things that they say she said to Vanity Fair because I don't trust them.

I understand she's an older lady, but what are you doing talking to Vanity Fair? They have no power except you giving it to them. What is Trump doing? Constantly talking about Jimmy Kimmel, who had almost no viewers until Trump started talking about him. And now he has more than he did. It's not huge. But he's literally giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to the doctor. dinosaur media.

And I get it. He's 79 years old. He thinks that's the big media. No, no, Susie. If you gave an interview to Breitbart, it would be 10 times bigger than Andy Farron. They wouldn't misquote you. But if she did say these things,

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. Broadcasting live from the UN Stronghold, Austin, Texas. You're listening to The Alex Jones Show. Well, Reverend, Reverend, please come quick. Because I got something to admit. I met a man out in the stakes, a good old miss. He drove a series tank, Cadillac, and wore a cigar on his lip. Don't you know the devil wears a suit and tie?

So I'm driving down to 61 in early July. What is a cotton feeling sharp as a knife? I heard him hounding as he passed me. And he said, I know you, I know you, young man. I know you by the state of your hands. Mustafa Carboogh worked in the Islamic Studies Department. as a senior person at Brown University in Rhode Island.

And his bio, his pictures, his information was removed off of there. The day after two students were killed, including the head of the Republican group there, and nine others wounded. and so people began to investigate why that happened and they looked at photos and videos of him at Palestinian demonstrations and things like that and comparing it to the little bit of video they released and

when you see all the background of how deer in the headlights and scared the administrators, the mayor, the police chief look, how they haven't offered a reward, how when they said, well, you tell us the description, yeah, we'll put it on the website. Police never do that. They put it on the website while they're on national TV on every channel.

They say the description. A 5-8, 5-9, overweight person wearing black, white skin, had a ski mask on, but you could, you know, part of it on the videos looks like a black surgical mask, but you can see the fat, extremely pasty face. There's videos of the reported shooter from the surveillance cameras outside, the ring cameras, then compared to him at demonstrations walking, and just to me, looks like the same build, looks like the same white skin, looks like the same fat face, looks like the same fat neck. And he's the Islamic Studies head guy.

And then he scrubbed off. So we sent an email into their press department today this morning. The American Journal did. Mad and Numbriana. And they responded back quickly and said, oh, well, we didn't want to have him doxed and harassed. so here's a question was he being harassed the day after by somebody

or do you preemptively because he's a Muslim think people would go say it was him that'd be terrible if it wasn't potentially true so

officer Brandon Tatum put out a headline suspect identified in Brown University's shooting as school deletes pro-Palestinian student off website. They call him a student, but he was in a department. But I guess they already promoted him to that. So we need to figure out the facts here. We need to look at this. But there may be some innocuous reason. He's completely innocent.

And maybe the person they're telling us was the shooter. Who knows if that's even true? of the guy in black walking around. Maybe he just walks like and looks like and happens to have a pot belly and happens to have pasty white skin and a fat wide face. And maybe he just happens to walk around with his hands

behind his back. Like this guy. I mean, maybe they're just similar. That is entirely possible. But why no reward? Why not put the description out on national TV? Why bury it on a website? And did you preemptively

scrub this off? because you knew he was innocent right away. The next day was when they scrubbed it. And then they slow-rolled surveillance footage and won't release the stuff from inside the building, which they admit was high-tech and be used for face scanning. HD. So when you look at Europe where they put you in jail,

if you get raped or your family member gets killed, you point out it's a Muslim, and you say the Muslims should be kicked out of the country, you get three years, five years spinning on the country in jail. Hell Ireland longer. So, and when a Muslim runs over a bunch of people at a Christmas celebration, happens all the time here and in Europe,

they'll fight like the devil in the media to cover that up. So why did they go expunge all this stuff about him? And then when you look at the footage they have released of the shoulders and the face and the head and the way he walks, man, he is a really unlucky guy. He's at the university and he's at Palestinian demonstrations, pro-Palestrian demonstrations, all this stuff. And then the person they tell us is the shooter. just really fits like a key in a lock. But, you know, we thought we knew who was the pipe bomber after five years of cover-up in D.C. And then magically, when all this attention came down on it,

oh, they found a highly autistic man who it turns out is basically blind, can't see three inches in front of his face. And you have all these FBI whistleblowers coming out. they're currently in there saying that, that this is a setup. You've got Thomas Massey in Congress saying, you got Grassley saying it's a cover-up. So, whether it's federal or local,

they're acting very, very suspicious. But who knows, they may grab a portly, autistic or retarded white man anytime now and say, no, here he is, he did it. And then they'll say, oh, you were wrong. It wasn't this individual. But the question is, is where is

the Islamic studies individual? Where, I mean, and again, this stuff's coming out online. I don't know. This was actually a computer gate analysis or somebody just said that.

But see, I don't need a computer. I got an electrochemical one that God gave me. And we play Officer Tatum's breakdown of it. You'll, for TV viewers, you can see, you can see him in a Palestinian demonstration walking, and it's right next to the surveillance footage next to it. And it's like, wow. But again, I'm sure there's a reason they scrubbed him off there. I'm sure there's a reason we haven't heard from him.

Did he, maybe he's had an unscheduled trip to the Middle East? Is he even here? You know, we need the FBI to check. with him and see how he's doing. Or we need to check the TSA logs and see if is he going to hastily arranged trip out of the country? Where is he? hell, I'd love to have Mustafa Karbooch on the show. So we'll read you what we sent to the university.

Their quick response back, and then I have my questions for them. But as you've noticed, across the board, no one is buying any of this. And again, it's part and parcel of where we are as a country. Because we've been lied to so much. And I've seen a lot of just super incompetency by the Rhode Island administrators. by the police and you know the more woke you get the more dysfunctional i mean again more than half the federal employees only go into work once a month they do nothing and so maybe it is just total complete insane incompetence but man they were sure quick to get back with us this morning about him

and they were sure quick to make sure before the bodies were even cold completely to get everything about him off the website and there was a lot I guess they didn't know about internet archive or the way back machine that is invaluable to freedom so let's go ahead and go to a boil down it's clip 33 of an internet influencer

analyzing it and talking about Officer Tatum's response I'm not going to play Tatum's whole 20 minute report on it last night it's going to play a little bit of it here but I think this guy needs to exonerate himself. We need to find out where he is and make sure he's okay. Because the school says, you know, they took everything out about him so he couldn't be a victim.

They don't say he was being victimized. They don't say, no, they were just worried because they were just they thought people might think it was him. Why would they think that? Why would they think that? And again, we found news articles we showed in the last few days where Brown's even been criticized for being such a police state and having 800 cameras and more cameras per capita for the size of the school, super ultra-leftist than any other college in the United States, 800-plus surveillance cameras. We have like three, four, five generation back because the new generations come out every couple of years.

We got, like, I have to check, I think like a 10-year-old system here. We had one before that. And it's still way better than this. And we got cameras all around the building and the key parts inside, you know, not in the offices, but in the hallways and doorways. And when something happens or somebody shows up and there's been instances, we just instantly have an armed guard. And they're like, we get over there to the big computers. There's all the screens of there. And we just go, doop, doop, doop.

Okay, here they are. They come over here. They come over here. They came to this door, doop, doop. And it's like, just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But they locked it down for 12 hours, did the Kabuki Theater coming in with the SWAT teams and having them all put their hands up and do all this. Though you know they went in to the security room, which had security guards and police in it, and they just went, okay, here's the class. I looked it up.

There was cameras in there. It was a big conference room. Are we going to see the, why can't we see the shooting? Well, you'd think that would really let us get, no, give us some close. Or the cameras in the hallways. and he comes in on a Saturday to a special study thing for a test almost like he was an administrator or something

when he was and knew a lot of stuff and he goes in and goes up the elevator and just go straight in to where these people are and now they're saying it was deliberate the way he did it whoever he is or maybe it's a woman 97% of violent crime is men

so they can say it's a man probably a white supremacist actually I had to guess been sarcastic and there's not like a jihad going on or anything so it could be somebody else though so here are these two reports back to back

Tatum saying that he thinks the guy's a suspect that's his opinion this other guy reporting on it and you're saying oh this is the guy I think that's too far there could be a very easy explanation for this I don't trying to think of what it could be, but I'm sure there's an explanation for it. But I guess if this goes on too long, it comes to controversy,

there's going to be a mentally retarded white guy that's found. And I'm sure he's guilty, just like the retarded black guy they just blamed. The pie bombing, I'm sure he's guilty. We predicted literally when we heard this was going on that it would be a disabled person because they do this over and over again. Marinus van der Lube was mentally retarded and he got pinned with the Rysstag fire February 27th, 933 that allowed Hitler to become a dictator. Firebomb the Capitol. Of course, he didn't do it. The Nazis did it. And they found a retarded

communist, homeless person. And they executed him. Oldest trick in the book. So we don't. everybody's innocent until proven guilty I'm not I'm not even saying this guy's a suspect I will say they showed the earlier photo of him there on the school just he looks

very satisfied he has that same extremely confident look of the Somalis and others I just wonder what it must feel like just to I can't even make a face like that just a total bliss total satisfaction you have arrived you

are the ultimate thing on the earth. It's just amazing. So, uh, here, here, here are folks asking questions, here this. You guys see the look of shock on my face? Yeah, it's not there. This is Mustafa Karboche that's apparently the suspect in the Brown University shooting. This is the piece of trash that took out Ella Cook. Ella Cook was the head of the Republican Party at Brown University, a very liberal school.

Now, Officer Tatum's reporting that he was on the University, the Brown University website. Apparently, he was part of the office for Middle East Studies. And guess what? They scrubbed him pretty quick off that website. Laura Luma's reporting that other media outlets said he actually shouted this before he opened fired. Shocker. The suspect yelled like has been reported. Listen, like my heart goes out to the victims.

He goes out to the families. We're really sitting back and seeing another young conservative, a prominent conservative, of in this country, have their voice taken by a far radical leftist, Islamist, jihadist. That's really where we're going. Something's got to change, guys. I don't know what to tell you, but you need to wake up out of the little coma that you're in. Leftists, I don't know why you would ever want this to be a thing, but you've lost all sense of humanity if you believe that this woman right here should have been taken by that guy

because he was a pro-Palestinian. Get fucking real. As for Ella Cook and her family, it's tragic, but we need accountability. and if this really is the suspect, maximum penalty. Leave some web pages for students or faculty to take it down. Is that a response to any external threats to anyone in the community? We have been working very closely with law enforcement to provide them with all of the internal to brown information that they need to do this investigation. It's their investigation.

They're the professionals. So we're providing information. We're not in the job of reviewing it for them. I know nothing about web pages being taken down as part of this. It's the first I've heard of it. That was a disaster. They got the guy's height, they got his weight, and they go, well, you want to update the country on what this guy's ID looks like?

And they go, we'll put it on the website. You have millions of people watching the press conference live, and you don't want to tell anybody? You say, oh, I'll put it out on a website. Come on. Is the guy 220? Is he Caucasian? What?

They didn't even do it. And then they get the timeline wrong, like Dana said. I can't hear a word he said. Everyone's trying to back off. No one knows what's going on. It's three days later after a gunman walked into an Ivy League University building and murdered the vice president of the college Republicans, killed two people, injured 11, and walks away.

We don't know where he is. We don't know what he is. and doesn't seem to be that concerning to the people that were delivering that press conference. This was a premeditated target attack. The guy was casing the facility beforehand. They have 800 cameras at this university. They didn't have a camera at the entrance to the building

so you can see who goes in and out of the building. This is stupid. But they did have cameras. We know they're lying. So, oh, they were broken. They were old. We didn't have them in that area. All lies. Mustafa Carbooch, I'm sure

is innocent. We're just covering what other people are saying. So we sent an email to the university PR department this morning and we said, as you may know, rumors are swirling online about

an enrolled student who's also administrative. Mustafa Carbooch that recently had his page removed from the Brown University website. Additionally, witnesses have stated in a video conference and online that Allah Akbar was shouted out, and moments before the shooting occurred. Is this person a potential suspect of the shooting?

Why was his profile removed more than that from your website? Is this person still attending class? Is there any merit to the claims of Allah Akbar? Was shouted by the shooter or at the time of the shooting? Good job. Matt and Brianna and the American Journal team. So here's their response back to us.

Brown University comments to Info Wars. Doxing of the community member. Okay, so he was doxed? We went and looked. We couldn't find anything about him before until people went and looked at what was taken now. So they went back to the way back machine and went through it. We've got all the videos people doing the investigation. So doxing of the community member in the aftermath of the shooting,

we've seen harmful doxing. activity directed towards at least one member of the Brown University community. Okay, you're saying it was him? It's important to make clear that the targeted individuals could do irrevocable harm. Acquisitions, speculation, and conspiracies we've seen on social media and in some news reports are irresponsible, harmful, and in some cases, dangerous for the safety of individuals in our community. So why have you put an reward out for who killed two-year students and shot nine others? It is not unusual as a safety measure to take steps to protect individual's safety when this kind of activity happens, including in regard to their online presence.

As law enforcement officers, official stated clearly on Tuesday afternoon in this individual's name had any relevance to the current investigation, they would be actively looking for the individual and providing information publicly. Okay. So they're telling us he's cleared, basically. You'd be hearing about him, you know, the police would be doing something if they thought he was a suspect. Okay, then I'm not going to ask any questions. I'm done, and I think Mustafa is an awesome person, and I'd love to have him on the show. Mustafa, you can reach out to us at Showtips at InfoWorS.com. We would love to have you on the broadcast as soon as you'd like to come on.

and all of you looking at the videos and looking at the way he walks and the way the supposed to shooter walk and the fact that they have a lot of the same features and things I don't think you should be questioning the police or the Rhode Island folks at the college I think the right thing to do is just drop this right now and we'll probably never know who did it and it's probably a white supremacist There you go. All right, I'm done. Open the shot, folks.

Everything's fine. And any other things that happen, any other attacks that you're seeing every day now, well, we know from the Democrats, the number one threat is white supremacists. And it was white supremacist hit. Sydney. It's white supremacist in D.C. with the National Guard. It's white supremacist out in Washington that's called the police with 911 and stabbed him. Of course, actually, he's been indicted down.

It was Islamic attack. But whatever. The point is, is we don't want to be hateful here. And I think it's good that the Australian government has not decried or criticized any of the Islamic attacks or the latest one or the Muslims surrounding the biggest church in Sydney enchanting death to Israel and stuff in last few days. I think that's completely reasonable. I'm being sarcastic, ladies and gentlemen. We're going to go to break.

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Why? For you. Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. We're going to be able to be. All right, in this short segment, before I had all this other news in the next segment, and then Kyle Seraffin is joining us to respond to the bizarre behavior that, no doubt, is an attempt at some type of cover-up in Rhode Island, in my view,

has incredible accuracy that Bongino would be announcing that he's gone today. That's now in the New York Times, is leaving and gone today. He may change it just because he wants us to be wrong. Also, a bunch of other inside baseball he's got, he already had yesterday, we wanted to break today on the show on some huge issues on shakeups inside the DOJ, Cash Patel, and more.

So that's all coming up. But I wanted to hit this. We had a very important interview with Marjorie Taylor Green yesterday. And as she prepares to leave Congress in less than a month, she's really trying to get bills that she's been trying to get passed for many years through. She had to hold up the Defense Authorization Act spending because the margin is so small she has that power. That's why I wish she wasn't leaving.

Just to get them to allow her bill, H.R. 3492, that makes it a felony to cut anybody's penis or breast or uterus out or put them on deadly drugs and sterilize them if they're below the age of 17 and Europe's already passing laws

the UK's passing laws this is an 80-20 issue it should be a 991 issue it's the right thing to do and it is coming up in the next few hours for a vote and I'm going to tell you

if you can get near unanimous votes out of Republicans to release the Epstein files which is just the files the family handed over there's always been more files because it protects children which I supported release it I know they cherry picket

with nothing but hers and they did well this is really amusing children this is just as bad or worse than pedophilia and it's the same satanic energy of sterilizing and mutilating children and it comes right out of the same globalist eugenics, euthanasia, death cult, literally out of the Tabistock Institute, MI6, CIA. So, if the Republicans don't pass this,

I am going to be absolutely enraged. And we know that there's billions and billions and billions to be made through the medical systems and through the university, sterilizing kids. And so any Republican, and Democrat for that matter, but they're going to pretty much all vote for it, you know, vote against the bill. Anybody that doesn't pass this bill is absolute garbage in my mind. And this is a litmus test. If this passes and Trump signs this, which he says he will, That's just another great thing that we've been able to do for the children.

So everybody needs to call Congress right now and tell them to pass HR 3-4-9-2. Now, a lot of people will say, well, give us the number. I'm so busy, I didn't think to have that pulled up when I said this. I can't do everything for you. You can go search engine it. You'll have the number. Call it.

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of news, I'm sitting here looking at all this, and it is so incredibly important, all of it. Nick Pointez is coming up in the third and fourth hour to cover all the different developments of the world, and I'm also going to debate some issues with him. There's also been new information put out on not suspects, but potential people working with the suspect. that killed two and shot nine others and all the bizarre behavior out of that university and out of the police and all the rest of it

so we'll be getting to that. Kyle Serafen, again, with huge breaking news, he nailed it again, said two weeks ago on the show. You mean to pull the clip where he predicted it? He said it a few months ago. He said, gone by Christmas, and now the almighty New York Times as servants sat on here last night.

We did a special show that it was going to break him the news tomorrow morning. And again, I said, well, why don't we just break it down? He was, well, Bongino might not quit right away or announce he's quit if we break it. And I said, who cares? You've got the sources. You're right. He was, yeah, I do. So here it is, Dan Bonino clearing out his office, the preparation for FBI exit in New York Times.

And he's basically already gone. It just hasn't been announced yet. So, but he's got even bigger news than that. I just point that out to show the credibility of his incredible sources. Because he was already a huge whistleblower that so much what we know about the Democrats and Biden and the corruption was from him. He was a hero, Bongino, and everybody said, but then once Bongino and Patel got in there, suddenly he was bad because they decided to work, I guess, with the establishment FBI. At least Patel has Bongino once out. He doesn't want to be connected to all this.

Well, Bongino, I hope you can wash it off of you, but I don't. I don't think you can wash this stink off. It's like a skunk. But it's certainly better for you that you've left. And we wish you well. He's done a lot of great work in the past. You just can't do bat turn 180s on policies and ideas and things you said. Because the Internet has a memory.

And so it's just to see the fall of Trump's DOJ. and by fall down the line they have been working with the globalists and not getting these people indicted and playing footsie with the system and so hopefully with the shake-up

that's really what what Sarah's coming on about hopefully with a shake-up and we know some of the names and I don't want to say the names because in the deep state already knows who those names are but then it'll draw attention to it

and maybe we should say the name so people can get behind those people, but we really know what's going on here. But after Kyle was a whistleblower for years, got persecuted, and then started exposing bad stuff in the administration to try to correct it and save it, he just has all the sources now, because he's the guy to go to. He's got the Cajonis to put this out.

And he's had got grand jury summons, and he's gotten the Google messages like I have, letting you know that you've been, You know, they've been subpoenaed for your information, so you know there's criminal investigations. I mean, we're over the target. You ask why most people don't take on the deep state, well, because they try to put your ass in prison or kill you. And I'm not saying Patel and Bongino or Deep State, but I don't think they realized they were parachuting into the middle of hell. I don't think they realized just how bad it was, and they were in over their head.

And look, I'd be in over my head. I mean, everything that's happening in the world, we're all in over our heads. Now, I shot this report two days ago. I was going to air on the main show yesterday, and there's been new news on the poison shots that's come out that I'm going to tie this into. So I wanted to play this report from Dr. Michael Eidon. A lot of this is already known, and he actually broke a lot of this four or five years ago as the former head of Pfizer vaccine program, but now there's all these other whistleblowers

that are currently in and all these documents coming out. And we know that the COVID shots were premeditated, multi-spectrum soft kill weapon, depending on your genetics, what it would hit. Some people it kills right away. Some people it kills in a year. It kills you in different ways. And it goes in and turns off your immune system. Well, it's described in the report. But everything he says, you can then go through and see it on record.

So this is all premeditated. all the globalist programs flooding the west with Muslims the exact same NGOs drag queen story time pedophilia being promoted with the exact same NGOs whether you're in Australia or the U.S. or Germany or Canada I know you all know it's premeditated coordinated but I'm just not seeing congressional hearings where they're like here's how the state department funded Soros and the NGOs directed the border patrol and we're in command of them

I'm down there at the border five years ago and 12 years ago same under Obama, and you'd have the NGOs with their SUVs that have the NGO's name on it, the different charities, the Jewish charity, the Catholic charities, you name it, and there'll be at these giant migrant camps on the U.S. side, you know, the sizes are like some of the 10 football fields. You've seen all her footage, and I'm like, look, that's an NGO, that's an NGO, here's the cars. And you'll see literal purple-haired women that are 15 years old. And like all these, obviously effeminate men, super young, right out of college from the NGO, commanding the Border Patrol. And they run up and they snap and tell them.

And then the Border Patrol became a delivery system for all these illegal aliens and kidnapped kids. So, yeah, we already knew all this. We were being censored and blocked then. Now people are just now discovering it. It's not a day later dollar short. It took so long to get this far, people that get frustrated, things aren't moving quick. enough. I get it. But compared to how fast we're moving before, we're at light speed.

All right. So, this is a very important report. And if you already know this information, great. Have you warned someone today? Take this report that's on X. It's on Rumble. And share it with people. This is life saving information.

Because they're already planning new pandemics. They're planning new four shots. They're trying to roll it out again. In America, we're different because Robert of Kennedy Jr. And all the exposure and the black box labeling of the COVID shot that it can kill you and is super dangerous and taking away liability protection from it and a whole bunch of other poison shots. Beautiful stuff's happening, but it's only happening here. But the EU and others and Australia, they all want us censored

because they admit it's causing an awakening in their country. We're trying to liberate the planet right now. Here's Dr. Michael Yidon. If you inject me with a gene sequence that will make my body manufacture a foreign protein that isn't me that is a viral protein my body every cell in my body that follows that instruction will signal to my immune system that I have been attacked and my immune system goes to war and attacks and kills every cell that complied with that instruction and that is what has happened ladies and gentlemen every cell in every tissue in every person who has been was that injected.

I've seen a lot of powerful information, a lot of incredible studies in the last five and a half years exposing where COVID came from, how was man made in the lab in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, shipped to China, so could be released there,

so they have plausible liability. And then the fact that the so-called vaccine wasn't a vaccine and was a deadly toxic gene therapy. But this, latest video by Dr. Michael Giedon, who was the head of the vaccine program for many years at Pfizer, who retired just a few years before, is so incredible because it's all backed up. We already know all this, but in a short video, he lays out how incredibly premeditated this was and how it's

the perfect weapon. First, it orders your body to manufacture a foreign entity, which causes your body to reject itself, just like you reject somebody else's organ that isn't yours. that's implanted in you. Then it produces the spike protein from the HIV virus that's incredibly toxic and attacks the strand of the DNA that is critical in your body repairing cancer. So it makes your body attack itself, makes your body see itself as foreign, autoimmune disease, then it makes your body mass produce something that triggers cancer and so many other issues. and then the nanolipid particles they use, they know you can't use something like this because it travels to the ovaries, testicles, and liver. This is the perfect weapon, but it doesn't kill everybody, and it sickens you over time. Dr. Edon's about to break it down.

This was premeditated mass murder. Over 30 million people have died, extra, since the shots rolled out that they moved normally, that's bigger than all our major wars and soldiers the last century that died. That is the reality. Here is the report. This is the most important information ever. Fouchy Gates, all of them, need to be going to prison. They're planning new pandemics. They're planning new poison shot rollouts. Bill Gates openly says he wants to reduce world population, but he wants you to take a shot so you don't die. Here's the facts. Share this video like your life depends on it because it does.

The really important thing I need to tell you about because this comes from the core of my training of looking for potential toxic vulnerabilities in a medicine. It was in the core of my training to look out for molecules and components that were picked up for good reasons to accomplish some medicinal aim, but might have toxic liabilities. When I describe to you three things about these so-called vaccines that I know as a professional from this industry, that gave birth to them must axiomatically cause injury or be known to be risks.

I could pick others, but there are three, that I know to be true from the heart of my being in training. The first one is, we were told that these molecules were gene sequences that encoded something called spike protein. The spike protein we were told was on the outside of this virus. Now, I don't agree with that, but this is what we were told. A cartoon, like a sphere with spikes coming out of it. We were told these vaccines encoded the protein,

the spike protein that sat on the outside of these viruses, and this would train your immune system to fight it off. Ladies and gentlemen, is a really important concept in immunology. It's taught to every person who has a training in immunology, as I did, in the first lesson. What allows your body to

treat itself kindly but to go to war by the way, hit pause, and back it up 10 seconds. I didn't point this out in what I shot to the report and later I realized I wanted to say this. You understand that I'm not even

a virologist or epidemiologist or any of this, and I know this stuff. Okay, this guy's one of the most procedures in the world. The point is is that this is like default stuff like water freezes

at 32 degrees or don't shoot yourself with the head of the shotgun. It might hurt. And that's why he and so many other top scientists like even the top advisor to the EU Wolfgang Woudard saw what was in it, what they were saying

was in it. They wouldn't give the details. Remember the sheets were blank paper that you know that with the shots, which is totally illegal, under all law, because it was even worse. And then they were also changing up what was in it and different lots. You have the hot lots and the really killer badges. We all know those now. I mean, this was scientifically done.

They were gauging at all. They were doing it. And he explains all that. I mean, this was heavy planning. And we know who it was. And now you notice Redfield, former head of the CDC's come out and said, oh, okay, they're deadly. Stop it. Oh, I'm not involved.

He knows to run. He's a rat leaving a sinking ship because he knows what's about to come out. It's already coming out. I mean, this is so historic. Continue. Training in immunology, as I did, in the first lesson, what allows your body to treat itself kindly

but to go to war if something unto war is discovered in your body? And the concept is this, self, non-self, or foreign. my body is healthy right now my immune system that is surveilling all parts of my body is at peace with itself because everything it encounters is known to it to belong to my Eden itself if you inject me with a gene sequence

that will make my body manufacture a foreign protein that isn't me that is a viral protein my body, every cell in my body that follows that instruction will signal to my immune system that I have been attacked and my immune system goes to war and attacks and kills every cell that complied with that instruction and that is what has happened ladies and gentlemen

every cell in every tissue in every person who has been thus injected the toxicity that you would experience various tremendously because some people would take it up efficiently copy it efficiently make the protein for a long time and I'm afraid those people are mostly dead

other people took it up poorly transcribed it poorly and only briefly and those people are alive and then there's every continuity in between but that point that if you inject an instruction that makes your body make a foreign protein that is not self, your immune system will attack it. Ladies and gentlemen, you know this.

This is the principle of tissue matching in organ and transplantation. This is the principle behind failed tissue transplant, organ rejection. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the basis behind autoimmune diseases, like rheumatoiditis and many others. And neurological diseases where your body destroys itself. That is the first principle that was designed into every company's molecule,

Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca. So I knew by the middle of 2020, these were designed to cause injury. How much I didn't know, I still don't completely know. but this expert is telling you that they were designed to cause injury.

The second really important point to tell you about is what was encoded in these gene-based vaccines, alleged vaccines, is spike protein. I didn't know what spike protein was. It was new to me, but it's the spikes on the outside of this alleged virus that I don't think is real. I could find proteins like it

and I found all of them were known to be toxins like neurotoxins, cardio toxins, and things that would prompt blood coagulation. So, again, the question, why would you encode in your helpful medicinal product, something that when expressed in your body, would harm you? That's the second thing. There is a third one, which is, when I discovered it, late in 2020 or early 2021, I have to say I cried. two of the products made by Pfizer

and Moderna were formulated every medicine is formulated you'll be familiar with a tablet might be film coated or dry it might be a capsule of various sizes it could be a liquid for injection and inhaler all of these

you have the active principle but it's surrounded and protected with something that helps it do its work hopefully beneficial work two of these products were wrapped in something called lipid nanoparticles or LNPs. Lipid is fat. Nano means tiny particle means little blobs. So they were wrapped in lipid nanoparticles and I looked them up and I thought oh that's quite interesting they had been used before in certain oncology drugs but here was the thing

as a toxicologist when I started researching I thought these things are known to be toxic and the further I explored, here is the shocking thing. Lipid nanoparticles, every one of them tested is known to promote the uptake of their payload, whatever they were

protecting, into the organs inside your abdomen and what's called the visceral organs and most prominently liver and your ovarice. So, ladies and gentlemen, the person who picks lipid nanoparticles

to formulate these materials knew professionally that when it was injected into women and girls this material would travel around their body and concentrate in their reproductive organs and then it would do those two things

I just describe. It would be expressed and your body would recognise it as foreign and kill those cells it would when expressed cause toxicity directly to those cells and I ask you ladies and gentlemen What possible motivation could you have for doing that when you could have picked half a dozen other means of protecting the drug?

And I have to say at that point I knew deeply in my heart that the first two observations I made weren't just like mistakes or things they would ride the risks. These three things together told me, someone got in a room, someone like me, and said Dr. Eden design injections that will injure, kill, and reduce fertility and the people you give it to

and design it so that it won't kill everybody, it won't injure everybody, but if we give it to enough people over time, it will lower the fertility in their health and reduce population. And this is what I have watched happen all around me for five years since that moment. And this morning, I just went on X and searched.

Club of Rome, UN calls for depopulation. and found dozens of clips, you know, that's seen before, of major world leaders saying we want to depopulate the earth. And the very same ones involved with these shots. This isn't even two plus two equals four, folks. And I don't want credit for the work we've done exposing this being the tip of the spirit. We're all in this together. They're attacking me and my family as well.

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It's Alex Jones. If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance. Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones. All right, Nick Pointess is coming up six after next hour. I have a big discussion debate. I can do 10 hours in Kyle Serafin. This is his own extremely popular and exploding program. Weekday mornings, Carl Serafin Show, the callservant show.com.

And he's always about detail. In fact, so you can take one of these stories he's got, spend an hour on it, give you every little detail. Again, the top most prolific, accurate whistleblower ever from the FBI. And then once they demonized him, an attack team, made him even bigger. So now he has all the sources. and good guys and gals giving him info.

But he said months ago, and then again, just two weeks ago on the show, he believes that Bongino will be gone just from his own analysis, which is even better than sources, by Christmas. And then, you know, he said weeks ago, I hear his office was already cleared out. You know, he was set from sources even declare he's leaving the day. The New York Times reporting he is cleared out. He could declare as earlier today. Kyle said last night, he goes, I don't really want to announce this yet

because he'll probably just spite us and stay over. it. We don't have a heart on for Bonino. The bigger issue is why is he leaving? Well, it was a sheriff who said six months ago he's pissed about the handling of Epstein, which is a feather in his cap. We want to believe in these guys.

But the bigger issue is who will replace him, we already know, but really who is that? The AG of Missouri being, who we know it's a good guy. I'm hurt for even higher. And the next shoot to drop is Cash Patel, who is now on his flight law.

spending half his time with his girlfriend showboding around. When he said never use the jet for personal stuff, he's using it double or triple, it looks like now. It was double to just fly around and act like a movie star while he should be heading up a manhunt for whoever attacked Brown University. So we've got all those stories, plus he's got other big developments happening.

And we were talking about him last night, and then he sent me a bunch of other big stuff. So I don't know how we're going to cover this. I'm going to try to shut up. You can go wherever you want. but you are batting 1,000 at this point. Kyle Serafen, where do you want to start here? Because, again, it's not about undermining Trump.

It's about if he doesn't have a good DOJ and FBI, we're not going to be able to fix this country. So we're doing a real service here. And we were getting criticized, you know, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 months ago by people, I'm not getting any criticism now. People get now, oh, you're trying to course correct. Yeah, out of the iceberg field, is there a way to do that? Call Serafin.

Yeah, for whatever it's worth. I don't want Donald Trump to do less of what he claimed. I want him to do far more of what he said he was going to do on the campaign trail. I went back and listened to some of the old footage when he was out there making the original pitch, which was in October of 2016, like just before the election. Told Hillary, I'm going to put your ass in prison. Yeah, all of that is what we wanted. And then what we see is like this soft version of it, this kind of fake, you know, whatever.

I keep calling it slop. And I don't know what else it is. It's sloppy propaganda. And slop is a really good way of just kind of saying it shorthand. so we're seeing slop and rather than get the actual consequences that we were hoping to see what we see is we see someone trying to message a win without getting the win and so the Trump administration is becoming just a PR spin job instead of actually perfectly said like saying the economy's fixed no you're making the right moves according to the economists and I agree some good stuff's on energy going down but saying it's perfect that slop and America knows it's slop and we're saying Stop slopping us. Yeah, and people will, and here's the thing, like, the base is getting fed up with it because they've got tough times financially.

They see things that are not wins. They see failures from the, you know, the law enforcement agency. They thought it was going to come in and just be like a Tasmanian devil, like nothing but teeth and claws, like destroying everything that's bad, which is a tactic. That's not the tactic that I recommended. I think the tactic I recommended would have been more successful. And instead what they did is kind of like half measures. So there's this story that came out yesterday, and we didn't cover it on the, on the program

when you and I did kind of a little. update but let's talk about it. It's from Fox. It says the FBI is doubting or they doubted probable cause in the Mar-a-Lago rate. So now we're going to rehash stuff from 2022. Okay, fine, let's do it. But let's not act like Fox News is breaking some kind of a story or that we're going to basically be dropping this as some brand new information and that they're going to do something about it. Okay. But I remember it came out over a year ago that they doubted the probable cause and thought somebody could get hurt. Yeah, it's all recycled crap. That's exactly it. It's slop. This is the only word. did a whole podcast on it this morning.

But basically, this story actually came out in March of 2023. And then it was covered by members of Congress. Jim Jordan went really aggressive on it. Tom Massey interviewed Steve de Antoine, who was the guy that was in charge of the Washington Field Office where I used to work. And they had significant doubts in the senior management, the senior executive service that was in the Washington Field office. And there was this back and forth.

Why is Washington Field running this op? Why is headquarters weighing in on it? Didn't we already learn this in Crossfire Hurricane? They literally adjudicated all of these questions, and Merrick Garland came out and said it very clearly, and you guys can find clips of it. It's very easy to do. He's like, Merrick Garland said, I authorized this raid. At the end of the day, we've got people like John Solomon who carry water for this administration. We got Brooks Singhman, who seems like a nice lady, but she works for Fox, and she seems to do like FBI press releases instead of actually doing journalistic work.

And all of these people are pushing out this slop saying, look what we found. So let me ask you this, Alex, if I was going to go do something that mattered, and I was the FBI, and I just uncovered some major wrongdoing, would I bring it to the United States attorney's offices and say, hey, let's go forward and prosecute the people that broke the law? Or would I give it to a member of Congress so they could go out there and campaign on it, like, look how bad these guys are, and nothing happens. Which one would you want to see happen? I want to see a prosecution, not a bunch of hot air. Which is why they gave it to Congress. You know, so let's just be real about it. That's what happened.

That's slop. If you go out there and you run this sort of campaign on Fox News saying, look what we found probable costs. At the end of the day, there's a magistrate judge who decides whether or not you've got probable cause. No, you know that we're being given, not with Kennedy, not with Gabbard, not with immigration enforcement. Yeah, I think HECS had been doing a good job. I think that Chris Wright's. That's the problem. There are people to do it.

Prop should be harping on all the real stuff he did and say, this is all hard. We're trying to fix it. Just be honest. But don't tell us, oh, the economy's great. Inflation's fixed. people know it's not fixed. In fact, I was never rich, super ultra-rich, like they said. But now after bankruptcy, I literally have to count every penny.

And I'm literally getting a hamburger instead of the steak, which is fine. It's good to kind of be back to that. It's just my whole life. You know, and so, but I understand, like, I go to the grocery store and I'm like, what the hell? You know, it's like, don't tell me inflation is fixed. No, not when bacon that I used to go buy. I go to Costco. That's, you know, that's my thing.

I got a big family. And so we go buy bacon and it's twice as much money. I go coffee, it's 50% more than I used to pay for it a couple of years ago. So, you know, they didn't reverse the inflation, even if they slowed down the inflation from the Biden side, the cost is still high. And so people are experiencing that. We don't have nothing. He did cut energy masks.

He did he did just show the graphs and say, hey, we've cut it this much. We've slowed it on these things, we've lowered it. Don't say it's all perfect. Affordability's a hoax. Right. And don't tell me that we're in a new golden era when there's people that are, you know, that are looking at their pocketbooks and saying, I'm not going to vote for you because you said something and now you're lying to me.

The number one job that Trump has never understood, he does a very different kind of sales than I used to do, and I was in sales and outside. You always under-promise and you over-deliver. You say, look, I'm going to do my best for you on this thing, and when you came and give more, then people get excited. If you over-promise and under-deliver, which is a classic politician move. Oh, it's like coming on to a woman, even if a woman's into you,

and then you act super desperate and super-excited and start telling you all about yourself, no, you've got to sit back and listen to them. And then it's a panty-dropper, sorry, but it's analogy for life. Trump needs to have, Trump needs to have town halls where he sits and listens. That's right. Instead of messaging. And so we did this yesterday where Susie Wiles went out and talked to Vanity Fair and made some big to do.

And she talked to the wrong publication, I would say, because Vanity Fair, like, I get emails from them and say, will you comment on this? I already know I'm talking to the enemy. And for anybody that's, you know, if anybody happens to be listening, that is one of those mainstream publications. And I know people at CBS and NBC and ABC and, you know, the New York Times.

and it doesn't matter. Like, all these places will reach out to me on occasion. I just know that if we have a different political leaning, there's a possibility that you want to do something negative with what I say. So I'm cautious about it. She went out and did something, and then what did we have to do? We got slop. We got every single cabinet and sub-cabinet member going out on X

and sharing it across the Twitter space saying, well, Susie Wilde is amazing and she's incredible. It's like, well, maybe she is. By the way, with the Vanney Fair and all this, and there's a video interview having time to watch it. But if she said, Elon's on ketamine, and all this other stuff, that is like a loose cannon. Like, and that's what, so, look, here's a problem.

You've honed down. That's what happens when somebody's used to being off camera and not used to being interviewed. Like, you and I know that what we say we're going to be held accountable for. If we say it out loud, there's a tape recording of it, there's a video of it, and someone's going to come play it in our face. You'd think guys like Dan Bongino would know that. You know, like he said stuff, and now when he says something different, we can play Dan Bongino versus Dan Bongino.

You can play Hal Serifin or Alex Jones versus ourselves. The question is, is how much have we changed and have we, explain why if we have it all. I generally, you know, I haven't been doing this nearly as long as you are, so you can find clips of me. I pretty much said the same thing for the last three years. I want to see a de-weaponized government. I want to see less government. I was 100% behind tariffs, even if I lost money on it, because you know what? If you're going to fund the government through a consumption task, which is what tariffs are, great. Just get rid of 80 or 90% of the government because you're not going to be able to fund all the stuff we do right now. I'm 100%

on board with that, but you overpromised and you didn't deliver it. Susie Wiles, I think, is used to working in the background. She's worked to be in the lobbyist. So she's the person that has the dinner that's not recorded. Let me just talk about how you're a side guy. I said, I'm a kissing your ass. It's weird. It's like you're psychic. You sent me all this stuff.

He told me huge news last night you wanted to break. And then you're not covering any of that. I was going to ask you about the crisis in the Trump administration what you think about this address tonight that we don't know what it's about. What should it be? But I thought, I'm not going to do that because he's got all this breaking news and you go right there. Because that is to me.

I think they're related, Alex. I actually do. I think what you've seen is you've seen a multi-dimensional failure of the people that needed to win. We needed it, like, you know, I was a paramedic, right? So when you get on scene, there's a couple things you got to do. First thing you do is you freak out and you panic because everything is overwhelming. That's normal.

You do that for about one second. Then you get your wits about you and you start going down the checklist and doing what needs to be done. The border needed to be closed. You got to do that. That's a tourniquet. And then you got to start de-weaponizing the government. You got to start doing your interventions to fix the problem that might kill you.

In the order that they'll kill you. When you do a trauma assessment, which I used to do, you go up to a patient. What's the first thing that killed somebody? a massive hemorrhage. If they bleed out, you can't put the blood back in the field. So we've got to turn to get things off. We've got to go find an assess and put pressure dressings. We've got to go do things in the order that they will kill us.

And one of the things that will kill us, faster than anybody, and you know it, and I know it, is a DOJ that runs on its own program, where you've got deep-seeded managers that have been going down forever. Even we know the problems, we can't execute. You have to go and stop the teeth that are going to bite into you. If this is the

attack dog, which the DOJ is the attack dog, it's got a couple of teeth, ATF, FBI, DEA, the United States Marshal Service. Those are the four canines, okay? The Marshal Service hasn't been biting people the same way, so don't worry about them. The DEA's been able to hide. They've been loving it because they're off the radar. ATF, they still suck. The ATFs always suck.

The FBI is the single most talked about problem, and how did you fix it? You didn't. You swapped out the management at the top. You kept every single person that was below them, and even if you fired a ton of them, every single manager that is in a managerial position today from the GS-15, which the second line all the way up to the senior, you know, just below Dan Bongino, all of those people came in under Chris Ray. Every single one of those people put their hand up in the air and said, I'm willing to be an FBI supervisor. We know that and you've explained it.

You've been dead on. What is, what do we do during the shakeup? How far does it go? We were hearing Patel's out to what needs to happen. What does the public do to put? Because we know Trump wants action, too. Well, Salon magazine just covered that as well. They just said that they think that he's out, which means that Andrew Bailey would be in.

It sounds like Andrew Bailey's been there long enough. that he could step into an acting role of the FBI, and then you'd slide in this guy, Chad. You're all broke behind him. And now you've got two people that were at the top and their lights out. They've managed to fail at the things they said they would come in and fixed.

They were going to release Epstein files. We've seen not that. They said they were going to find whoever the pipe bomber is. I'd like to share some stuff on that because I got somebody in Dubai reached out and shared with us a gate analysis video that's a little bit confusing. And you just go, okay, I don't think that's it.

We're going to find who did the cocaine at the White House and we're going to find out who did the Dobbs League. So those were the big stories these guys hung their hat on. the only one they said that they were winning. The only time that they said they won is that they got the pipe bomber. And I think they got the wrong person. Because the guys that went into that job told us it was an inside job. It involved different sort of law enforcement agencies or members of the federal government.

Sure, nobody's fine. It's classic. Right. Then they turn around. So the time we go out, let's move quick and come back soon for all hour. I wish we had more time. Let's get into this right now. Because I told us the wrong time zone.

I apologize. I messed up last night. Too much going on. Let's us triage this with just quick bites. I don't you want to back on what you say. Let's just give us what you think. And then we can, you know, tomorrow, whatever, get into it or people here on your show. What about Brown University and all the stuff going on there, the bizarreness and no reward?

And, oh, we're not going to tell you what he looks like. Go to the website and then scrubbing people off the site that I got to tell you, I've seen the videos. It looks like the same guy the way he walks. I need to be a gate analysis NSA computer program. I'm not saying he's guilty, but people like... I just saw some gate analysis. online that indicated that like a 95 or a 98% match. Now, whether that was good, it was actually a software program that was designed for horses.

But data analysis is data analysis. I mean, the body, the face, the pasty skin, the way the guy's walking in the Palestinian deals, and they scrubbing the next day before. I mean, I already spent an hour on it, but my God, this looks bad. It does. And so you got to ask the questions. First of all, that's local law enforcement. This is a local case. Like, it may have national profile, but it's not an FBI case.

This is an FBI what they call law enforcement assist. We heard from Sean Hannity last night. The FBI stepped up a bigger step into it. The question is, is we saw the evidence response team, and it looks like the local evidence response team, and they must have got the B team or the new guys that are out there kicking snow around instead of using a tool. Like my buddy, Steve friend said, how come they can't find a $200 government rake to go through the snow and look for whatever they were looking for, shell casings or, you know,

some sort of lost personal items. So we were watching subpar sort of a reaction and, you know, FBI exploitation of the crime scene. And so then we have to ask. They also arrested the wrong guy, right? They, quote, quote, detained the wrong guy for 12 hours. I'm sure that looked like an arrest when they went in there and grabbed him. And they did so based on what's called Cass,

the cellular analysis survey team. Well, Cast has a mixed bag of really, really good stuff. They sometimes find people who are kidnapped victims. They sometimes find guys that are... We got a response back to the university. We said, why did you scrub this guy? They go, well, he might have been docs. All I'm saying is, you look at

the guy. Look at how he walks. You look at at all, I mean, I'm no computer program, but I know, you know, so, so, and no reward in all this. And I guess, obviously the police in the local area, it looks like they're kept by, and controlled by the university. I mean, if this is a coverup, and I see all the signs of a cover up, I'm not saying of what, well then, well then, it sounds like pipe bombing coverup 2.0. Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like. It sounds like people that either are doing one of two things possible. Either they're incompetent, which is difficult for me to fathom, because I actually know the FBI to be a relatively incompetent or competent, rather investigative agency.

When they want to do it, they do a great job. If they are intentionally putting their worst foot forward to discredit guys like Cash and Dan, that wouldn't surprise me, although that would be a really appalling place for us to be at right now if that's what's going on. If people are putting deliberately the wrong people that don't know what they're doing, slapping jackets on them and have them wander around in the snow and kick it around with their feet instead of actually doing a grid search or something more targeted, you know, there are ways to get rid of snow. I know the FBI has done. They have these face heaters.

What on earth are they doing there? I just, I keep watching this B-roll footage. I've seen it like five or six times. I watch it on loop and I just go, I've been part of, I guess I haven't been part of a lot of searches in the snow, but I've never thought that maybe kicking stuff with my foot would be the right answer.

Like it just doesn't, it doesn't look plausible and let these people are just filling up time, but they're all on camera looking ridiculous. And so we've got this overtly ridiculous kind of response, kicking things around in a very non-scientific. The FBI's evidence. response team goes through specialized training. They go down to Quantico and do a boot camp.

They've got an actual like a tier one version of that team that lives down in Virginia. And they fly up on the jet. That's what the jet was actually designed to do, fly out and do response to things like this. And they're really good. And they can fly stuff back and forth. They actually brought some of those people in for the Charlie Kirk scenario. So shifting gears out of that in the time we have loved, the latest on the pipe bomber fiasco, other IPA, was the blowers that are inside or saying that Brian Cole literally

has horrible vision and is autistic, and no one's buying it, no one's believing, like you said, the geolocation with the cell phones doesn't fit what they're saying. Right. Just like Candace Owens in her Egyptian planes, people actually got the data, it's not true.

The majority of it, I mean, what's happening there? In fact, you sent us some clips. Yeah, I think this is going to blow up in their face. So, like, let's first watch, who is this Brian Cole guy? There's a video from 2024. This was a body cam footage. There's about 50 minutes. or 45 minutes of this actual interaction with the police officer.

If you've ever had a bender bender where the cough show up, it can take a lot longer than a few seconds. But we can watch a few seconds of it and see a little bit about who this guy is, which basically nobody has seen. Yeah, this is clip to Scripps News Service. Brian Cole and Conner, police, here it is. Is everyone okay?

Anyone hurt? Everyone's all good. Police responding to a Virginia traffic accident in 2024 captured these images of Brian J. Cole Jr. More than a year before federal authorities took him into custody, and accused him of planting pipe bombs near Democratic and Republican headquarters in Washington, D.C. I was looking for a place that I could, you know, go on to the next lane. Okay.

Just one small, small left in focus and I just crashed behind him. Cole was driving the blue Nissan Centra when he rear-ended the truck in front of him. If you want to left some space, you want to have rear-ended the vehicle. Does that make sense? Okay. A police officer wrote him a ticket that day for following too closely behind the other vehicle. I see that you do have a good driving record. You have four plus points, which is good.

That's enough. You can see he is seriously mentally impaired with all the texts, all the stuff. If you saw him at the mall sitting on a chair, you'd say, oh, that guy's got mental problems. And look, I mean, he's talking to the cop and he's doing this thing where he's hitting the shoulder over and over again. I saw five of those repetitive motions in a period about, you know, eight seconds. And, you know, it doesn't make him a bad person. It's just, yeah, it's a self-soothing thing under high pressure. Now, that's a much longer clip.

And what you can see, not in that part of the clip, but in the actual longer piece, is that he walks around and he doesn't have a right leg limp. Now, that's something that was identified by the FBI. If you listen to the Washington Post, it was obviously identified by my friends over at the Blaze, who clearly pointed out. Yeah, B-roll clip one. We don't need the audio, but B-roll. He's talking clip one, the right-leg limp, here it is.

Keep going. It was pretty well established that the person who was the pipe bomber. which you're seeing on the bottom there has a what's called right leg drag. It's kind of a limp of sorts, but it's a real specific type of limp, and people have a, you know, a name for it in the physiology. What you're seeing on the top screen there is footage from a woman who used to work for the Capitol Police who was a goalie, and there they are walking off. And you can see that kind of like after playing and after being involved in sport,

this is after a, you know, a femur injury that resulted in some surgery. What you're seeing on the screen right now, I don't think anyone's, seen before. This is from January 6 and this is the woman that the Blaze identified originally but more importantly this is a capital police officer. And there's a left there again. I'm no supercomputer, but my eye just immediately sees all three videos.

Same person, same shoulders, same head, same ass, same limp. I mean, that's how you know your neighbors. It's how you know your kids. It's how you know this stuff. Human beings have a really uncanny ability to assess threat or not threat or friend or not friend or familiar or unfamiliar

when we just look over and see people move. And the wildest part is, is that no matter what you do with the story of Brian Cole, which I don't think spits any of the fact patterns, I don't know how you explain away what you guys are showing on the screen right now. The person who was the alleged pipe bomber moved around Washington, D.C., confidently, knowingly, understood where he or she was going, which I think it was a she, and then sat down at a bush for 77 seconds. And after that happened, the next day, U.S. Capitol police officers from a unit that worked in the same exact little space went directly to the bush that this person's sitting at. So we know. And they thought were live bombs. We understand that. And you're right.

So five years of this to cover up as soon as this gets exposed and the blaze, they run out and find their potential Patsy and no one is buying it. And so where do you expect us to go down? Well, yeah. Would you stick around if you knew that you put out something? Listen, we heard the guy who was the number two who claimed credit for this case. Dan Bongino went out in Fox and said a number of things, including we're pretty comfortable. We got our guy.

Alex, you've been listening to people do press conferences a long time. You ever heard the police come out or the FBI come out and say, they were pretty confident. With Rob Reiner's son, they said he's it, capital murder. He's, you know, we're going to put him in prison. He's going down. That's how you talk when you confidently work something. We're pretty confident he killed his parents. So they didn't say that.

Exactly. Because if you do that, if you leave the door open, there's a couple of things. Number one, you're saying that you're not that confident. And more importantly, you say that you're not that confident. You don't want to go out there and put your name. Gino looks away when he says, he goes, we're pretty confident. He's like, get me out of here. It's the same sort of face and then the same sort of delivery that we had on Epstein,

killed himself. I've seen the video, that kind of thing. So I think that that's another sort of motivating factor for him to leave. He doesn't want to be there when this thing falls apart. And remember, if he leaves on the 28th at the end of that pay period, 27, 28th, which will be just before the end of this year, the detention hearing for Brian Cole, Jr., is on the 30th, the last day before the year ends here. And I'm just going to predict right now that there's some fireworks that may have seen some things that indicate that they're going to have a really hell of a time, even showing that there's probable cause.

Forget about the conviction. I don't think they have probable cause to even hold this guy. Well, you already show me. Like, literally he's a... That's part of it. That's not even the whole thing. He's a door dash driver or whatever it is. And it's not even the same time they claim.

So they could just pick anybody that's driving around and set you up. And what people will see is that there were not very many people driving around Washington, D.C. at that time. and the streets are mostly empty, as you can see from some of the pipe bomber footage. It turns out this is actually not that difficult to run down, which I'm going to go back and reiterate it. I think Tom Massey actually believes me when I said this, because I heard him say it the other day.

I think the FBI discovered Brian Cole, Jr. in the area of the pipe bomb at the time and found out that he wasn't the guy, and then they dismissed him as a subject. And they revived it, and they brought it out on Dan Bongino's birthday, of all things, on his 51st birthday, went out there and announced that we got the guy,

we got him. And, you know, here we go, sir, go for it. But I do not think you're going to find video that shows that this guy looks anything like or walks anything like or has anywhere near the confidence. By the way, I do five minutes with us, but I should have said this up front. You got Senator Grassley, but particularly Tom Massey, saying, I don't buy it. So they got a big problem. But imagine if they let it come out, it'll discredit the Democrats, the system, the deep state. So that's why this is happening.

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All right, we only got a few minutes left with Kyle Seraph. Hopefully I twist his arm to come back in the next few days. He's got his own program in the morning, which I routinely watch. Nick Pointess is coming up to cover all the geopolitical issues, investigations. Trump's pick a rest tonight. But we have an administration in crisis. The Epstein mishandling, the Charlie Kirk bizarreness,

all of the lack of prosecutions. We want Trump to succeed. But just, there's so many other issues to hit here. Bottom line, we had the head, the real head of the DOJ, kill the investigation and what was done with me, which is open and shut. That's just emblematic of the problem here. And like you said, we're getting this slop instead.

is there any way for Trump to turn this around and what's your advice? There's a lot of people listen to you in Congress and in the White House, Kyle. That's a weird thing to think about, but that may be the case. So let's do it this way. Every year you get a new start.

Everybody does a New Year's resolution. They decide they want to be healthy. They want to go to the gym. They want to start something new. How about the New Year's resolution that you under promise, over-deliver, and then refocus on the things? Highlight the wins quietly.

You could do propaganda that's not slop. And I highlighted some of that on my program this morning. I've watched Pete Hegseth go out and say, here's a real problem that we see in the, let's say, the chaplain court. They want to be told, hey, we're doing this. Just tell me what the problem is. Yeah, and then tell me an expectation. Look, it's going to take me six months to get after it.

We're going to work on it. We probably won't give you updates until we have success because we don't want to waste your time. Great, got it. You can come out and get ahead of almost anything if you're honest with people. It's the way that I was successful in sales. I will tell you what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. I'll tell you if I don't like the price, but it's worth it because of this.

we just tell you honestly and people go okay well that's a straight shooter I'm going to make a good decision for myself if you come out and try to sell me Americans recognize sales tactics that are over-aggressive we don't want to go to a used car lot and have someone try to cram it down we go okay that's too much the Trump administration needs to refocus with a little bit of humility and you can do that on January 1st is a great day to start

you're probably going to have to clean house some of these people are tainted they've spent too much time on image they've spent too much time on ego you're going on podcast to talk about who your girlfriend is which I just saw Patel do last night, which was atrocious. It was just bad on every level. Oh, everybody hates it right and left. Instead of, I'm going to find. Because you're lying to us.

We know you're lying. Instead of, I'm going to find out who the, we're going to stop the Islamic terror. We're going to, you know, or talk about how we found all these kids or we're going to find the brown shooter. Oh, look at my girlfriend. She's so great. Like, this is literally he's having the ego stroke the super country star, whatever her name is. I mean, it's just ridiculous. It is sad.

And we're not trying to be mean to Patel. He has something missing in his head to not realize how stupid this is. The people that advise him are the, you know, I know who advises it. The woman's name is Erica Knight, and I've spoken to her a number of times on the phone, and I know that she doesn't know much about national security. And theoretically, she knows about PR, but the number one rule of PR, when you're in a hole, you stop digging. So put down the shovel.

That's a great thing. The second thing is, is that if you're explaining, you're losing. I totally agree. Like, let's say I wasn't a married man. And I know my audience, if I paraded my girlfriend on her and talked about how great she was, people are like, what is this? We're tuning in here about events. We care about ourselves.

We don't want to hear about your girlfriend. This is not like some, what is this? This looks like a long-form Katie Miller, who is the wife of Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff for the White House. This looks like an access-based official White House propaganda slop operation, and a lot of it was simply trying to claim the things that I say every morning, because I'm a little bit focused on the FBI. I think they're the thing that might kill me and my family, so I'm pretty serious about it. I think that this was an attempt to push back against the stuff I said,

and all they ended up doing, because I watched the Twitter comments, I watched the people who saw it in real time and went, this is crap. I watched the mainstream left media reach out to me and go, did you watch it yet? And I said, no, I'm putting it off. And they said, you might not want to watch it. It's not any good to the point where my wife fell asleep two times in 40 minutes.

It's not good. So go out and do work. The people who are doing the best work never have to tell you they're doing good work because you can see it. The people that brief you on what a great job they're doing, though the people that everybody naturally is suspicious of. That's what the Trump administration needs to pivot to. Do the thing that you said.

You don't have to tell us you did it once you've done it. Well, no, we'll see it. Absolutely. All right, Carl Serafin, let me know when you can come back on soon. There's so much other somebody to get to. Thank you so much. Yeah, you bet. Thanks, Alex.

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Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide. It's Alex Jones. Well, things are really coming to a head. Nick Pointess is with us for the next hour and 50 minutes or so. Nick predicted a lot of problems with the new Trump administration, and a lot of those have come true. I think he did that to be mean. He did that to try to put pressure on him to do the right thing,

because we need the Trump administration to succeed. But also there's been so much great stuff that's been done RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard and the border, and that's escalated up. And now we see two and a half million deported. But at the same time, the messaging, oh, the economy's great inflation is over. No, it's not. You put in some policies that are starting to turn it around.

And then Trump comes out and promotes the H-1B visas. That blows up in his face, so he backs off. criticism you know it's a good thing that we can see when we put pressure we get a lot of course correction but then you've got that mishandling the epstein situation and you've got all these other things that are going on and then you know rasputson polling is the best they warned trump he was starting to drop six months ago he's now basically the lowest point in his nine years off and on an office and you've got the trump worshippers that get mad at me when i say hey you're going the wrong direction look out

then you've got people mad at me saying just totally abandoned Trump and I'm like oh and then have the Democrats want to put me in prison so it's like I'm in this lifeboat that's leaking it's all I've got so that's my paradox I try to criticize Trump to get him to make the right decisions I don't think he's playing 50 D chess you know and he's God it's very

paradoxical but he is set to address the nation and I'll be covering it live tonight in a simulcast with Steve Bannon his isn't going to me the exact times, but he's going on before, during, and after. So tonight we're doing a show. Just look for like 7.30 Central or so. Trump goes live at 8.

Central, 8 p.m. Central, 9 p.m. Eastern. So look for that. And they've been very tight lip. We don't know what this is going to be. If Trump comes out and does hours of all the great things they've done and cheerleading, and it's the best economy ever and everything's fine, People want to be straight shot. Yeah, you've cut some energy prices.

A few things have gotten better. A lot of great jobs being brought back, but it takes time. Don't do that. If he does that, I'm going to be even more concerned. Hopefully he just straight shoots people on a whole bunch of issues and rallies the public and says, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

And so I wanted to ask Nick Pointz out of the gates, what does he think of this moment we're in? Because we have Susie Wiles in this TV interview, this Fannie Fair interview, she said similar things in the TV interview, so I tend to think it's accurate, like shots of Elon Musk with him taking ketamine to relax and all these other statements, and she looks like she doesn't understand she's on TV, and then they take from that, well, is this the end of the Trump era?

Well, I don't want it to be the end right now, but we should think about what comes after. So there's a lot there. This is an administration in crisis, and we're not saying that to join the Democrats and create a crisis. We're in a crisis. you called the crisis beforehand, and so I want to get into it. And then we've got all these other issues that we'll get into you with on Islam, and what's the main threat to America, and long-term what comes after Trump,

Nick Pointez, Nick J. Pointez, on Rumble, follow him on X as well. Nick, great to have you here with us today. And I know you've got your topics as well. I'm going to get into, but first off, what is the state of the union right now? What does Trump need to do tonight versus what do you, you predicted us? Well, I think the state of the union is very bad right now. When you look at what was promised in 2024, it was supposed to be a golden age, no new

wars, closed the border, all this sort of stuff. And I think everybody realizes at this point that that has not happened. And it doesn't even seem that the administration is trying very hard. And what's sad about it is it seems that the administration doesn't even know where to go after this. As you said, it is an objective fact. It's not subjective opinion. It's not blackpilling.

The administration has its lowest approval since Trump got back into office. I think it's down a 39%. That's one of the lowest numbers we've had since the first term. And you see that the administration seems to not really know how to bounce back. And we talked about it shortly after the off-year election back in November. Trump administration is totally fumbling from one thing after the next, flopping around with the Epstein files. Then you have the Marjorie Taylor Green leaving Congress.

Now you have this post about Rob Reiner, who was brutally murdered at his home in Hollywood. And these are all things that not only are they not winning back the whole country, let's say like the middle or the coalition that propelled Trump in office in 24, but it's even losing Trump's most virile supporters, his biggest and loudest supporters, people like Marjorie Green. Why is she not on the team? People that wanted transparency on Epstein files. Why are they not on the coalition? And, you know, stuff like that post on true social, I don't know anybody that likes that. I don't know anybody that thinks that's acceptable. So let's be clear.

We love from attacking powerful globalists like Hillary saying you'll be in prison. But it's an obvious no-brainer. I put a video out saying I was sad. He was dead because I generally was, even though I didn't like Rob Reiner and he'd gotten me de-platformed and celebrated him and been involved with Brennan doing it. I said he was still telling the guy, I'm sorry, he's dead. but even from a cynical view, say something nice about a man and woman brutally murdered by their son. Like, it's the dumbest move.

So you have to ask about a 79-year-old Trump. I don't think it's dementia. I don't think he's, you know, but regardless, he's making very bad decisions. I mean, that is, just as a microcosm, what a crazy PR decision. Well, he's floundering. He's floundering. And I think like we talked about last time, sadly, it seems like he is fully engaged, the old playbook, which is that he's in trouble.

He knows he's in trouble. The approval ratings are down. His base seems to be leaving him a little bit. And whenever that happens, he always doubles down on mean tweets, let's say, as a category. Not necessarily a mean post on Twitter, although that is how it is expressed and how it manifests. But he doubles down on cruelty, culture war, laying into his enemies, ranting on television. And that used to be a playbook that worked, I think back in the first administration or even in that first election in 2016, But now it seems like he sort of lost his touch.

It's kind of tone deaf, whereas at one time he was bringing that fight against, like you said, the globalists, somebody like Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, who's he attacking now? Now it's anybody that wanted Epstein files. Now it's Marjorie Green, who is one of his people, who was like one of the first MAGA congressman that rolled that wave after his original. She made that point yesterday, it's on record. She's right. He has all these Republicans in that vote against him, but they kiss his ass. and then she votes 98% of the time with him, but warns him, and then he turns on her and calls her a traitor. That is so stupid, and it hurt him bad in the polls.

Like, that's dumb. Exactly, and that's what's sad is you have these policy failures, and I agree with you in many ways. It's a long four years. A lot of this stuff is complicated. Trump is trying, and you're right, it's not all bad. There are some things that are good that are going on, and I think that people might have patience for him to follow.

through. But the problem is he's reacting badly to the poll numbers, and it's making everything worse. It's compounding the failure. So you have a first year, which is pretty lackluster and disappointing, people get upset. In order to make people happy, he starts lashing out wildly, floundering with really no strategy, and if there is, not a very good one. And now people are accelerating their exit from the party. And so the question is, does Trump have the power inside of himself to make himself new again. Can he renew? Can he get on a solid footing?

Or is this just going to be like a miserable long decline? He was good the first six months during the campaign last year, year and a half. He was really good at not being the reactionary, manipulated Trump. Now he's worse than ever. Jimmy Kimmel had no viewers. He talks about him, boosts his ratings, empowers him. What is Susie Walls doing giving corporate media interviews to Vanity Fair? It's like they just don't get it.

And so the old Trump that had problems, but woke up, got better. Now it's back to the old Trump at worse. Yes, and that was a big part of my prediction last year, as I said, he just hasn't learned his lesson. Because the first administration, let's be honest, it's not what anybody really wanted. He didn't really deliver the victory. And what I wanted to see in 24 is, okay, you've had a go at it, you've been there for four years, you made your connections. Are you now going to be able to go in and govern better, govern effectively? And I remember during the campaign, I saw a lot of things that suggested, no, it's the same old Trump.

And actually, maybe he's probably worse. So it has been a big disappointment. And I think it's even more disappointing because there's such a mandate. There's such an opportunity right now. And you hate to speak about it in these ways. But Charlie Kirk being assassinated, that was actually a political opportunity to get things done, to tackle the left, which is trying to kill and persecute our side. And so to not only not deliver on this historic mandate when you win the election, but also then to pass up opportunities. And again, you hate to speak about it in those terms.

But this is politics. Let me give me an example. Like six, seven days after they bring up Charlie. I know people by the scene said Trump was very upset, all of this. And they go to Trump and say, what about Charlie? And he goes, never mind, look at the ballroom. And it was just like, I don't know how to describe it. It's like it's true.

We're under attack. The left saying kill us. He should make a bigger issue out of that. Exactly. He suddenly went from making a lot better moves during the campaign in the first three or four months to running out Elon doing all this. Susie Wals attacking Elon. Oh, he's a ketamine head. I mean, it's just, it's bad.

It is bad. And it seems like that whole approach just failed because I like the Doge approach. I like the Elon Musk approach. I liked how they talked. they talked about operating, which is we're going to move quickly. He had the highest ratings ever during that. And that's made the Republican establishment scared. And somehow they manipulated him to kick him out.

And then the people want to Shirley Trump. Oh, you're a traitor. You're for Elon. I'm like, no, idiots. Elon is a freaking genius. We need him in there. And it's popular, you dumbasses. Yeah, I think people loved it.

People like the idea of bringing that energy to the White House and actually disrupting. That's the whole point is to drain the swamp, get rid of the deep state, actually shake things up. And you're right. I think that got too popular, maybe too many people liked it, or, you know, Elon wasn't playing the patronage system. He was going in there and firing people, people that were protected or felt like they were protected. And they latched out and said, no, no, you don't understand. That's not how things work around here. In D.C., everybody needs to get their back scratched. Everybody needs to get paid or whatever. And now we are back to that kind of sclerotic tempo that we had in the first term. And I think it'll be met with similar results. It's like we've been talking about. Midterms are next. year we almost certainly lose the house we might even lose it earlier than that sadly you know between now and new year's eve or uh in january and then what do you do does it get better after we lose the house i think it gets worse so by the way some losers won't get that if you have enough republicans quit or leave like mtg they're only on down at one or two they don't vote they've already lost the house technically exactly because it's a four vote majority as of 24 they've had a number of

people withdraw. And this is typically when people announce their retirement is during the holiday season on the off year. And so you're right. If they lose a few more seats, then they lose the majority. And then they can't govern even earlier, even before 26. And, you know, that's not really a glowing endorsement. This is supposed to be the golden age. And people are literally headed for the exits before the midterms even happen, before even lose the election. So it's really sad. Trump literally slaps them around on TV. By the way, certain people have said, oh, MTG is not getting real threats. It's on record she has.

I get threats. Scott tried to come and kill you earlier this year. And they're like, oh, she's making it up. No, I talked to her on the phone. And the police reports are there. They are under total assault right now. And she's literally, she's like, I'm not running for president. I'm not done.

She's like, I'm a successful businesswoman. I did my tour. You know, she's done. And people love MTG. I mean, that hurt Trump. Again, he probably lost three, four points doing that to her. Again, it's idiotic. And I'll say it, Trump, you're destroying yourself.

We need you to succeed, God Almighty. It's really sad about Marjorie Green. And you know what? People understand how she feels because we've all been on this train for 10 years. We've all been on this ride and we've all sacrificed a lot. The threats are real. The lawfare is real. Everything that has happened to you, to me, Marjorie, Tim Poole, all these people that have been under the gun.

We've been fighting this battle for a very long time and for Trump to get this opportunity. He finally has like ultimate power, let's say, House, Senate, White House, popular vote, Supreme Court. He really has an opportunity to move and he's just blowing it and on top of it, then going in and attacking the people that help propel him into the office for demanding the Epstein files, for not wanting regime change in Iran. You know, the basic promises. And so you look at someone like Marjorie Green, she goes, well, you know what, then I'm. I'm out. I don't need to have my kids threatened. I don't need to have my family threatened to die. If we're all in this battle for a leader who's not really leading from the front,

she goes, I don't need this. I'm out. And you sort of understand it. Now, I think that you really can't give up. I mean, and I think you and I are on the same page. You have to fight it through to the finish. I don't know that we'd be doing anything other than this. That's the paradox. We talked about the phone a few days ago.

This isn't perfect. It's got problems. But the alternative, one of the Democrats do they get back here. I mean, we've got to talk about that. There's got to be a way to slap Trump around. Here's a question. Can he be reproved? Can we turn this around?

Honest to answer, no, I don't think so. I feel like this is deja vu all over again. And I remember covering the first term until 2020 and saying, here's how Trump can still do it. We still have one year to do Section 230 or close the border, you know, whatever. I remember right up until the very end saying, Here's how we could still get it together. And I think that it's him.

Like, he is the problem. I think that he's not strategic. He doesn't have the follow-through. His personality is toxic. I mean, we could cope and we can say, well, if we just push really hard on Twitter, if we just make some calls, yeah, I mean, we could put pressure on the administration. That's really all we can do, and we have to do what we can. But what are the realistic chances we get Trump to snap out of it?

He's an 80-year-old man. I think when you're 80 years old, you're kind of out of reinventing. I don't see a lot of people don't tend to change. They certainly don't change their ways at 80 years old. And especially when they're the king of America and no one can tell them no. So sadly, I think we're kind of just stuck with this. And we have to just try to. Is he about to use a full-bore war with Venezuela's a distraction?

Yeah, I think that's exactly what he's doing, which is just straight out of House of Cards. I mean, it's like, that's the cynical play. So let's talk about what a flailing Trump's going to do with the dangers of it. So I think a flailing trump, this is the war, you know, and there's been some sources that have said that he will announce a war with Venezuela tonight. This is just a classic. This is what you do. You get in trouble. You start what is considered to be a short-term, easy intervention, like George Bush in Desert Storm or George Bush in Panama, for that matter.

You get an easy win. It's a slam dunk, and that helps you in the midterm. So I think he does something like that. And afterward, I don't know where he goes from here. he's just getting more and more bitter and angry. I think they might try. I think what they should do is a big push on their domestic agenda.

I think they should try to use budget reconciliation and get through. But the poll show great, but we want even if he's doing domestic stuff, which he is, we need to hear about that more, exactly. Yes, and do what we elected you to do.

Get a bill together that closes the border. It's law and order. We have to stop the crime in the cities. You know, and Irene Zerutska law, something like that. Do something about election fraud, paper ballots. I don't know. Get a domestic agenda together. Use budget reconciliation to the extent that you can or one of these other deadlines, defense authorization, whatever, and get some legislation passed. At the end of the day, Trump has only passed five bills in his first year, five bills in the whole Congress. So there's just not a lot of governing that's happening.

There's not a lot of policy. So if I'm Trump, I would say put down the phone. posting about Somalians and about Rob Reiner and all this other stuff, and actually govern, pass some executive orders, pass some legislation, actually create some policy, and then, like you said, make the case, talk about it, sell it to the American people, but they just have nothing to run on. You're going into the midterms with literally nothing to run on. I can't think of a single tangible victory, a policy-related victory, arguably other than closing the border, but that should have been a given. I mean, that should have been done a long time ago. So if I'm Trump, that's what I'm going to do.

What do you make a Wiles trying to put him back on the campaign for? I think that's a really bad idea. It'll exhaust him tovert him more. We want action. We want policy. We want indictments. Real indictments. That makes us win. What do you really think about Susie Wiles? I never liked her. I never liked her. And I don't think that her head is in the same place as Trump. I know a lot of people say she's not really the problem. Well, she's a lobbyist. She's a lobbyist from Florida, from this Ballard firm. She's in bed with all these other governments, and Florida is a swamp. I mean, it's a literal and figurative swamp. And by the way, she brought all these people in. These are all Florida people. Mike Walts, who was fired for being in bed

with Israel. Bondi? He's a Florida. Pam Bondi? Exactly right. Rubio, who is pushing this war in Venezuela and then Cuba and then Nicaragua. These are all Florida people. Rackcliffe, I believe, she brought in as well. I don't know that he's from Florida. But just to be clear, You and I contextually, historically, under Thomas Jefferson, go about diplomacy, get hemispheric power. Technically Trump can do this, but they're going to set him up, a new Vietnam, the CIA, they've already tried it, and they're doing it as a diversion. So that's why I'm saying.

Actually, they shouldn't do it. Well, and not only that, but it is so much more ambitious than people realize. This is like a reverse domino theory where Rubio is like this guy, this is his presidential. campaign material. He wants to be the guy that toppled Venezuela and then toppled Cuba and then toppled Nicaragua. As a Cuban American, his dream is like...

And Mexico. Right, the left wing regime in Mexico, maybe even Lula while we're at in Brazil. His dream is to like defeat communism and leftism in the Caribbean and Latin America. And I would support that if they could be done, but I've looked at the angles and it's like, you're talking about multiple Vietams here. And then the Russians are sneaking around. They may, the word is, just like Cuba in 61, have nukes there. Well, it's a jungle.

It's a jungle. Venezuela's 30 million people, many cities, it's a jungle. Mexico's 130 million people. The Mexican government doesn't even have control over the country. Cuba's got special forces. So I don't know that the American public is really ready to buy into this, like, I don't even know what you would call this. Like you said, it's multiple Vietnam's in the Caribbean. It's a much greater commitment than people actually are thinking about.

And I don't know who voted for that. I think the whole pitch was no. I'm going to say it's a reverse red dawn. It's not Latin America with the Russians invading us. It's just invading them. And again, if Trump, I'd love to fix that if we had the CIA under control. But they're going to set him up for sure. I mean, I've already heard from sources of the Pentagon.

The CIA is already leaking the attack plans to Nicholas Maduro. So we're walking into a trap. And people get confused by us because we're being academics saying we wish this was gone, but could it be done? Well, that's the question. If you could wave a magic wand and have the entire Western Hemisphere align with Washington, of course, that would be in our best interest. And I would even support engagement with these countries to that end. But the question is, is regime change the way to go? Are you actually going to get the kind of order that you want? Or are you going to get guerrilla warfare with drug cartels and Indians shooting at you from the jungle? Are you going

to get narco-terrorism? Are you going to get something that is a lot more far-reaching than what you bargained for. And the record of history is that these kinds of coups and regime change, it doesn't actually work most of the time. And that's the key, that's the key, is that these, these, these groups only have the drugs and things they're doing. There's no government, so you can't even come in and take them over. They're going to have to continue and fight you because it's all they have.

Exactly. What, what is the parallel structure? Okay, you remove Maduro. Now who's going to rule Venezuela? We're going to be setting up another nation building thing like we didn't. Iraq just not a good idea and uh it'll fail you know should have kept their promises well yeah i was on the fence but i had my concern that flynn came on two weeks ago he said don't do it it's a setup nick foytes is on fire we're going to come right back we got so many huge other topics to cover

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All right, I got a bunch of questions for Nick Pointes. Big topics. Really important stuff. That was a great first 25 minutes. and I was jumping in a lot because what he was saying I totally agree with but I want to just give you

10 minutes from me shutting up here to finish up on Venezuela what you think Trump should say at this address tonight versus what you think he's going to say it's not even a prediction but what you predict or your dead reckoning

and then I want to move into what will it look like if Trump fails and what do you think we should expect and then how do we move on from Trump if we're entering the post Trump era of this continues, and what is your advice to American people and the people of the world? Then I want to look at the rise of Islam.

I'm going to look at where Israel's going and so much more with Nick J. Feintez. Nick, please continue. Yeah, so picking up on Venezuela, we have this address tonight. I think, like you said, it's at 8 o'clock Central. And I don't know exactly what he's going to say. Like you said, they've been pretty tight-lipped about it. I saw on Judge Napolitano, Tucker was just a guest on that show this morning. And he said he was told by a member of Congress, it's going to be a declaration of war.

And at the minimum, that's going to be a part of the address. And we're going to war with Venezuela. And, you know, that would track because, of course, this has been escalating over the past few weeks. Most recent development is that Trump has effectively declared a blockade of Venezuela, or at least an oil blockade. He said over the weekend that the United States will interdict all oil shipments that are leaving Venezuela. And most of those are going to China, about 80 percent. percent of Venezuela's crude is going to China, and this follows up from the seizure of the oil

tanker last week. So he seized an oil tanker, presumably we're going to take the oil. This weekend he said that actually all of the oil exports will be shut down, and that effectively destroys Venezuela's economy. And as we talked about with Iran, other conflicts, this is that maximum pressure strategy, and this is just the latest escalation. So it would be fitting if tonight there was some declaration of ground strikes, let's say. This is something they've been talking about for a long time. They've assembled this armada, this giant naval force. It's a carrier strike group.

I think it's 10 warships in total, 10,000 troops, F-35 squadrons. They have been stationing in Trinidad and Tobago and Puerto Rico off the coast. And they've been threatening for a long time that all of these naval strikes, I think there's been about 25 maritime strikes against these little drug boats, killed nearly 100 people. They've been saying for a long time that eventually that will progress into targeted airstrikes on the ground at military facilities, airports, where there's drug trafficking happening, and they're actually going to bomb Venezuela's territory.

Maduro's been preparing for that. They've been shutting down highways. They have been getting ready. So it seems that that would be logical that Trump would announce there would be some major action tonight. That being said, you sort of alluded to this earlier. earlier, you said it could just be an hour of Trump bragging about his accomplishments. And I think it's totally possible that it could also just be a load of crap.

Because how many fakeouts have there been this year where Trump says, I have an Oval Office address. I'm addressing the public from the White House at noon tomorrow. And he gets up and it's like, we have the greatest economy. The stock market is back. Inflation isn't real. Affordability's not real. So I'm sort of 50-50.

50% chance it could be a load of crap and it's just a lot of self-aggrandizement, 50% chance it could be a declaration of war on Venezuela. And then how it progresses, if I had to guess, I would think that this is just ratcheting up the maximum pressure. I don't, and maybe this is, you know, this is just a shot in the dark. I don't know that he's announcing a swift operation to capture Maduro or invade the country. I don't think there will even be an invasion, strictly speaking. They have about 10,000 personnel stationed off the coast. It could be the case that they have put together a larger force, covertly somewhere else. That's not enough people to invade Venezuela.

You had 20,000 invade Panama, and that's a country that's a fraction of the size, fraction of the population, smaller military. So I don't think you're going to get a full-fledged invasion with that size of a force. I think what you might get is a tightening of the noose, and they're going to choke Venezuela off more. So they have the blockade. Now if they start initiating ground strikes, maybe there's some other covert actions by the CIA, which they announced earlier in the year, would be operating in the country. Maybe they're looking at something more limited just to increase the pressure slightly more.

And maybe that's the play. Now, will that succeed? I guess it depends largely on how they carry this out and how come. competent the military is. I don't have very high hopes for it. I don't think that, you know, the military is really prepared for something like this. It came together very quickly. Military's not been extremely effective in the past so many years. You know, they're really good at dropping bombs from aircraft like they did against ISIS and like they did against Iran, but a ground operation, I feel like we haven't seen anything like that in a very long time.

So the odds of success, I don't know that it's particularly high. And I don't know. that that's even something the American public is looking for. Like we talked about in the previous segment, as always, this is the appeal to the voters before the midterms. If you're struggling on your domestic agenda, if you're flailing because of a domestic scandal, you always go for a quick and easy war. Like we talked about with George Bush in Persian Gulf or in Panama, where they did regime change, or even in Grenada with Reagan. You always go for a quick and easy layup, makes Americans feel confident. I don't know that that will even have the same effect.

First of all, we don't know that it will be entirely successful or on what timeline or if there will be any kinds of complications. Secondly, is this really what the people voted for? I think the people voted for lower prices. People voted actually to end wars, not start new ones. I don't know that regime change was really part of the mix. I think actually we want the opposite. people voted for an end to free trade, something like tariffs or a more protectionist agenda,

and we're just not succeeding on any of those fronts. So I don't know how you bring that to Republican or Democrat voters as some sort of huge victory in 2026, especially when almost everything else is looking really bad. The deportations aren't happening, as we've talked about, economies not where it needs to be. Many people are predicting potentially an imminent recession, a housing bust, the AI bubble might burst, have a lot of red flags and early warning indicators in the economy.

So, you know, how much is that even going to move the needle? I'm skeptical that that's going to have a big impact. So this is the playbook. I think that if Trump really wanted to have any kind of recovery before the midterm elections or at all, I think you have to refocus on the domestic agenda. That is what people want to see solved. You got to get those deportation numbers up. You got to build a border wall.

You got to end the war in Ukraine. Somehow, some way, you have to end the war in Gaza. It looks like even that is coming apart. You need to fix the economy. You need to do something domestically. Get a super bill together. Get an omnibus bill together. Use budget reconciliation, which they have for the fiscal year 2026.

Use national defense authorization or whatever you need to do. use one of those measures to get a super bill passed, get Republicans and Democrats together, and just pass something, make life better for Americans. But I fear, and this is something you pointed out too, not only will that not happen, it may actually even get worse, because as you said, according to Susie Wiles in an interview this weekend, she's going to have Trump campaigning in 26 like he was in 24. And a lot of people don't think about this, but the president of the United States, like anybody, only have so many hours in the day.

And so if we're going to engage in this huge campaign in 26, Trump is going to be flying around doing rallies. The guy's 80 years old. You can't be doing four rallies in a day like you were doing in 2020. And if you do, you're not going to have time and energy for literally anything else. And that's perfect for the deep state to come in and sneak step past him. I noticed a while three days ago in a TV interview says he doesn't know it yet, but he's going to be back on the campaign trail.

Then I see him yesterday. Well, I just heard. I'm going to be on the campaign trail. He's literally admitting that she's directing him. Which is so gross. The whole point of Trump is that he's supposed to be the boss. Who is Susie Wiles? Nobody elected her.

She's a lobbyist from Florida. And you're right. He goes, yeah, well, I guess I'm going to be campaigning. She's the boss. And you make a good point. If Trump is out there on the campaign trail, first of all, he's already falling asleep in every meeting. And which is, you know, look, the guy's an old man.

I think everybody would understand that. But now you can't be doing both of those things. You can't walk and chew gum at the same time then. If he's going to be running around the country, if Susie Wiles is going to be running him ragged, not only can he not focus on the agenda, but you're right. This is where he loses control of the White House, which is always the concern that the cabinet members, that the lobbyist, that the special interests, when Trump is out of the house. When daddy's not home, other people are going to go in the White House and they're going to be

manipulating personnel. They're going to be manipulating policy. And so let's say, for example, Netanyahu is pushing Trump really hard on a war with Iran. And Trump, to his credit, put his foot down and said no for many months. And even when they wanted him to intervene in June, it was very limited. I'm not happy that he bombed Iran, but it could have been a lot worse. And that is just objectively true. And that's because Trump is in the driver's seat. And he's got to some people that are backing him up if he's out there falling asleep on the campaign trail in Georgia or Pennsylvania or whatever they're going to get stuff past the goalie they're going to get things through because he's not going to be fully in control look at the psychology they know

he wants to win and so they'll say sir we've got to do this and yeah it helps a little but nothing compared to actual developments and things and we know that they're always trying to hide things from him this is like we saw in the first administration so i i'm going to say it right now Trump, yeah, okay, go for Mike Lundell, for governor of Minnesota, stuff like that. Pick and choose a few, but maybe do three or four events a month. But what we really want is action and you address the American people and you bring out these issues. We'll give your advice to President Trump because this is such an obvious trap. You see your power trip in the interview.

I know you've seen it. People have it. We should play. We're digging up. She's like, well, they don't know it yet, isn't knowing yet, but he's going back on the campaign drill. And Trump's like, well, I guess it's important. I guess I'm told I'm going. Again, this is outrageous.

No, that is not the interest of his time. It's great to have crowds out there. It's fun, all that. No, we need him engaged. We need him not worried about what Jimmy Kimmel is saying with no ratings or what Vanity Fair is saying. But again, it's nothing against it. There's all these 79-year-old people like Trump and Wiles. They still think ABC News,

is important. They don't understand they go look at the ratings, you know, ABC to the nightly news, 2 million viewers. Nick Pointez is a nightly show, 20 million viewers. They don't even, we went on Elon Musk show, one billion people tuned in, it got picked up everywhere, and then Trump only went on Elon one time.

I was like, it's total idiocy. But it's because they still think cable TV is king. That's a really good observation that a lot of people don't realize, because it is like a boomer thing, Trump being from television world and being 80 years old, you're exactly right. He's actually still cares about what the New York Times writes about him. He actually still cares about what network television is reporting on. And you're right. Television as a whole is not powerful

anymore. It's all online. It's all digital. And at the minimum, that's where the young people are. That's where the coveted demographic is at 18 to 35 demographic. They're all getting their news on TikTok. They're all getting their news on X. They're all getting their news on YouTube, on the internet and you're right they're still they're still getting attacked by like 60 minutes or like CBS they're responding back like Trump I'm going to sue you I'm going to and those shows are only big when he goes on them so it's so the only time dinosaur media is big is when it's online he doesn't understand that no and sadly Charlie Kirk is the one that did understand that Charlie Kirk to his credit delivered the young people for Trump in 24

because he was on TikTok, because he made a deal, and unlike the Republicans that sort of turned their noses up at it, he was there and fought the culture war among the young people, and that's the next generation. Trump was like, oh, no, I have to go and interview with like Barbara Walters or something. I have to go on like 60 minutes, and I care about what the New York Times says. He still deeply cares about the mainstream media and Hollywood. He wants to be their champion. And so if I'm him, I say you've got to go hard and fast. There is urgency. You have to be swift. You have to outmaneuver and have a faster tempo than the deep state.

And you need to focus on the things that are going to win the voters back, specifically the young people. And that's things like affordability, it's crime, it's ending the wars. And if you're out there running this campaign, it's unfortunately the prophecy that I gave last year, which is you actually don't have the full four years. You're going to have like realistically about maybe 15, 18 months. And then they're going to start campaigning for the midterms. They're going to be so busy.

Then they're going to lose. And then everyone's going to be campaigning for 2028. And half the cabinet will be in that position. Then you're in 28. And it's like, so you never actually get a chance to govern. And this is my problem. It's like when we vote every year, are we going to get four years of Trump pushing hard, trying to get victories?

Are we going to get like three months of executive orders? And then like three years and nine months of crap where they're like campaign. and trying to make everybody happy and they're listening to the donors and they're just kind of sitting on their hands, stalling, running out the clock, because that is exactly what happened in the first term. And sadly, like I said, it's deja vu all over again. So I think that you're right. Trump should maybe pick a few critical races where he can make a difference. And those are the races that'll make a difference for him. He should maybe do one event per week, keep his schedule light. And he should really, he should really overclock the white.

House like they did in the first three months. I don't know what happened. I don't know what changed. Oh, we had the globalist off balance, highest approval rating ever, magic. And they convinced me to get rid of Elon. So the second hour is coming up, and you've got other topics you want to hit. But just briefly, what future do you see, though? If Trump messes this up and the Democrats still just win the midterms and turn it all

around about impeachment, what happens in 2028 when they get back in? Because they've said they're coming after everybody. If the Democrats win, it's just over, you know, because, and this is the thing about the pendulum swinging back and forth. We elected Trump the first time, and he failed. He failed. He totally crapped the bed. Biden gets in, and what is the first thing Biden did after that? J-6, arrest everybody.

We're going to hire a thousand FBI agents, a thousand judges. We're going to co-for, what did they say? They said it was going to be shock and awe against the e-celebrities, against the influencers. against the Trump lieutenants and they crushed everybody Rudy Giuliani and you and me and everybody they crushed everybody and then they went in with the COVID stimulus and they only gave it to their allies women and non-white people they said white men need not apply for the COVID stimulus and then they came in with the vaccine so we're going to get a redux of that and just like how Trump has escalated the Democrats will escalate when they get back in it's going to make the first Biden term

look like a joke. When Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or whoever wins, they are coming after us so hard. And here's the difference. They know how to use the government. We do not. Their allies run Washington. Washington is like 95% Democrat, all the career political people, all the lifers. They're all liberal Democrats. They're all gay. They're all women. They're all like, you know, PMC types, college educated. When they get back in power, unlike the Trump administration, they are going to move like a hot knife through butter when they go after us, just as they did under Biden. And so it's going to be a full war on guns. It's going to be a full war on free speech, on social media.

It's going to be a full war on the radical right. I imagine they're going to throw open the border to some extent. How much repair are they going to do after Trump has sent all the refugees back and, you know, changed immigration law? They're going to say, oh, well, we're open for business all over again. So I think that it's going to be fire and fury against the right wing and especially against Trump. And this time, he's not going to pardon anybody just like last time. Maybe he'll pardon himself preemptively. He'll pardon his people.

He'll get a golden parachute. The rest of us, we are screwed. And this is why I said on Tucker and on other shows, you can't take the fight to the left and not finish it. When you go at the king, you can't miss. Because if you miss, the king cuts your head off. Like, and that's obvious. You go for the king, you can't miss, because if you fail, you stumble, they call down the guards and you get executed. Your whole family gets executed.

They burn down your village. And that's really what Trump has done now for the second time. He's going for the seat of power, going for the permanent bureaucracy, going for the left, whatever you want to call it, really hard. And he's, you know, attacking them so viciously on social media, talking all this trash. And in the end, all he does is piss them off. All he does is make them angry, such that when they inevitably get back in power, they're going to attack us with a vengeance, and he's doing it all over again. And by the way-

So what's the way out of this? We have to win. We just have to win. There's no substitute for victory. Trump has to turn it around, and if he can't, then we need somebody in 2028. Everybody is ready to coronate Vance. Everybody is ready to cry, and I know you like him and other people like him, but everybody's saying like oh well vance is going to be the next president it's not in negotiation we need somebody in 28 who's going to carry the mantle of trumpism win and finish it like caesar like the republic is over this is the american empire democrats

seem to get it, they go, wait. Nick supported Trump 10 years ago and up until like five years ago, but now he's not. So how does he wants Trump to succeed? You want him policy-wide to succeed, but you didn't support him to draw attention to what you thought with the problem so that you would hope he would succeed. I'm putting words your mouth, correct me. And so that's kind of how I see this.

But we have to have an ultimate urgency right now. One year into this, folks, I agree with what Nick's saying. regardless to look at how much danger we're in. And if Trump doesn't succeed, J.D. Vance doesn't matter how good a candidate he is or what a nice guy he is. They're just going to engage in election fraud removing. Yep, and they did it in 2020, and they're not, haven't done anything to fix it. And here's another thing. The next president will preside over the 2030 census.

Whenever the next president gets in, you're going to have a census in 2030, and for people that don't know what that means, You don't just count up all the people. You then also apportion the congressional seats, the electoral votes. So whoever the next president is going to be is going to be extremely powerful because then they're going to preside over that. Like right now, they're battling this out in Texas and California, this redistricting halfway through the decade. Whoever is president is going to get another shot at that in 2030.

And then they'll determine for the following five or 10 years how many seats there are, how many electoral votes there are. So it does really come down to 20. and somebody needs to get in who's extremely bold and takes risks. And urgency is the word. We just don't have time for like an incremental approach. And people are just negotiating with themselves saying, well, that's not practical. That's not realistic.

Well, we have to have reasonable expectations. No, I have unreasonable expectations. I'm unreasonable. And we want more. The base, America First, Infoars, MAGA. Like, we want more than what we're getting. demanding our sons and daughters be brainwashed for transgenderism and leperous brainwashing. They demanded all this insane stuff.

People gave it to them. We're just demanding common sense, liberty, and freedom, but we have to get aggressive. So I think it does go to the average populist, the American first person conservative, needs to realize this is existential. What should they be doing? I think people should be getting involved. I'm a huge believer in. We need a professional class. We need people that have gone to college.

We need people that have professional jobs, and we need people to get involved in the party. We need people to run for office. Isn't it such a sad state that you look at the House of Representatives and the Senate, and it appears basically untouched by the Trump Revolution? Trump won in 2016. It is now 2026 in a couple of weeks. You don't have literally one congressman that is MAGA. You don't have one senator that is MAGA because everyone that did exist is now gone.

Matt Gates, Madison Cawthorne, Marjorie Green, they're all gone. Lindsay Graham is going to have another term. John Foon is going to be the majority leader. Kevin McCarthy, Mike Johnson, these have been the leadership in the House. You don't even have one. You have 435 members, and you don't even have one MAGA Republicans. So I really believe there's been a failure on the part of the America First Base to get organized. There's a lot of talk about doing that, think tanks and candidates and all this.

stuff, and it just never materialized. And so who inherits the Republican Party after Trump leaves? Well, it's going to be the usual suspects. Who's going to run? I mean, J.D. Vance, of course, Marker Rubio, who ran the first time, what are going to be the big think tanks? Heritage Foundation,

Club for Growth, Chamber of Commerce, like, this is still where the money is coming from. So, I think that for people that are animated by this, they've got to get involved in politics. No, I totally agree. We're basically Rome in like 406 and people

ask Rome still all the power, the military, but they had these elites that were corrupt, couldn't face a problem, brought in too many illegals, all of it, and then they just couldn't organize at the end because it was just business as usual and Rome fell in 410. I mean, I think we are I mean, I think 2028's the number. Each election just gets more important

here on after, but we're basically already dead if there isn't a sense urgency and I just you know that's why I get invited to Marlago in the White House and I'm not trying to act cool it's just I'm like okay what's the thing I'm in a dinner with 20 people on Trump I'm like nah I'm not going I don't even I just it's like I don't want to

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We're going to get into Candice Owens, who I like as a person, but I was forced to go investigate the stuff she was saying and doing, and I just did have to bring it to you. And Nick's got some stuff to talk about with that. But he wanted to briefly, I think it's really important. And if he has more, we'll go on the next segment. on Brown University in Rhode Island and what's going on there.

I don't know what the cover-up is, but clearly a cover-up's going on. Nick Pointess. Yeah, I saw this, obviously everybody saw it, this horrible mass shooting at Brown University. And, of course, I haven't talked about it on my show too much because we really don't know what happened there. We don't know who the shooter is.

We don't know their identity, motivation, anything like that. But the one thing that I saw that I covered on my show is what is this response from the FBI? I see there's videos being uploaded of this FBI manhunt that's underway, and they got like a couple of dozen FBI agents out there literally kicking the snow around with their feet, with their hands in their pocket. And I saw that, and, you know, we've talked a lot about the Trump administration and where we'd like it to improve and where they're falling short and so on.

And I said on my show the other night, I think the biggest area where they're falling short is where is the competence. It reminds me of when they did that military parade back in June. And they had people marching in the parade, holding drones up over their head, not even flying them with the actual remote control, flying through the air electronically, but holding them up in their hand, walking down the street. That was your big military demonstration, Department of War, America's back. Then you get this FBI. First, they blow the Charlie Kirk investigation. Now you have this mass shooter who's just gotten away.

School shooter just got away, went into some building, shot a bunch of people in the face, literally walked. walks away, they go, okay, well, rest assured, Cash Patel is on the case. The FBI is out there. We're going to do some good old-fashioned investigative reporting, or investigation, criminal investigation for that matter. They send out these FBI agents in the windbreakers, kicking the snow around. There's like 20 of them in a group, and they're kind of like walking around, looking up at the air, looking down at the ground. You're like, this is the same FBI of J. Edgar Hoover. This is the FBI of the United States of America. This is federal law enforcement. What is this? And so I think that's one of the greater disappointments that it's just a clown show.

And I'm just sitting here like, are other people watching the same movie and what a joke the country has become? What a joke the federal government has become? At the same time, by the way, this is the same FBI that when we did the January 6th Capitol protests, these are people showing. showing up at people's houses at 6 a.m. marching them out of their bedroom, throwing them in jail because they trespass. You had some like grandma, you had some, you know, Maga Mom who was posting on Facebook, and they had people being marched into solitary confinement over this. Same FBI, by the way. Now you have somebody, it's a school shooter, somebody shoots Charlie Kirk in the neck. They can't even find the person. So I saw that. I don't know what to say about the shooting itself, We don't really have any information.

That's sort of the point. We haven't gotten to the bottom of it. But I'm seeing these videos, and I'm thinking that's really the story by itself. This is a country now where school shooters are getting away with it. In 30, 40 years, your neighbor might be a school shooter that got away with it. You know, you've heard of like, oh, my neighbor was a serial killer, and I never knew. My neighbor was a gangster, and I never knew that. Now it's going to be my neighbor committed a school shooting, a mass murder,

somehow got away with it. That's the country now. But that's anarcho tyranny. That's the state of the country when you have a state of tyranny for law-abiding people, a state of tyranny, Orwellian surveillance, police state totalitarianism for a magamom, for a grandma in the capital. Yeah, that's how real communism or totalitarianism works is good people are oppressed, bad people are turned loose because they work for the state, and that's where we are.

Right. So I'd like to see that reversed. I want to see tyranny for the criminals and illegals and globalists and lobbyists. And I want to see freedom and anarchy for law-abiding people, taxpayers, patriots, Christians. But we're not getting it. So that's more of the same. I'd like to see somebody get caught in this thing. 60-second break, but wait a year of this.

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It's Alex Jones Coming to you live From the front lines of the Info War Well, Nick's been talking about this For months so of I That we understand Trump has constitutional right It's in our hemisphere Venezuela has manipulated things to go in

but that's academically technically we've said don't go in because the CIA and others will set you up at a quagmire and Rubio wants Cuba, Mexico, all of it, Colombia. And that's a lot to buy it off there because there already failed states. So then we own it, even if we, you know, the leadership leaves. Well, Tucker Carlson, say what you want about him. He's got incredible sources. I know Nick's had his run-ins with him. You know, I love Tucker, but I think you can put it in the bank.

if he said it, though sometimes Trump may decide to pull back because of this. It's like two weeks ago about, we were talking about Geno resigning by Christmas from the sources of Serafin. That would prove it to be incredible. But then Serafans like, last on the show he goes, his special show

he goes, well, maybe he won't resign right away just to make us look wrong. Well, fine, if we stop a war by getting them to jump the gun, fine. So here's the story on infoors.com breaking. Tucker Carlson says, member of Congress told him Trump to announce war on Venezuela during tonight's presidential address.

So, wow, and here he is on Judge Andrew Napolitano's show just about an hour ago. Is Trump going to start a war in Venezuela? I don't know. I don't know when this program airs, the one that we're on right now. We're live now, and then it'll be posted immediately. So right now, my sense is, I don't know the answer. I certainly am on the phone a lot about it. I have no power. I'm a podcaster, but I'm very interested.

And so here's what I know so far, which is that members of Congress were briefed yesterday, that a war is coming, and it'll be announced in the address to the nation tonight at 9 o'clock by the president. Who knows, by the way, if that will actually happen? I don't know. and I never want to overstate what I know, which is pretty limited in general, but a member of Congress told me that this morning. So that's what I know. My opposition to this, and I'm sure if you oppose this, they'll be like, oh, you're a communist, which I'm not.

My opposition to it comes from what I've learned from watching closely for the past 25 years since I've been assigned to cover all these stories, including, you know, in Iraq, Afghanistan. Like, I've watched, and there's not been a regime change. effort that's benefited the United States or the world in 80 years that I'm aware of. Well, that's the big thing is the trillions and trillions per regime change. It's always a black hole. So we already covered this earlier, but I mean, I think there is a good chance. He'll definitely brag about we're blocking them, all their ships.

I think you're right. I think you'll announce we're at war with them, but then just use that as the pressure to have Maduro leave. Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's an invasion. I don't think it's going to be a shock and awe. I think it'll be ground strikes, more pressure, maybe a new policy. And you're right.

It'll be some perhaps an ultimatum to get Maduro to resign because I think that ultimately they don't really want to go to war there. I think they want to get Maduro out through pressure only. So I agree with you. I think that's where it's added. But they don't have three aircraft carriers there for no reason. Well, but do they have three? I think they just have the carrier strike group. But this is a classic Trump strategy.

He did this in North Korea, too. back in 2017. They deployed actually two carrier strike groups to the sea of Japan and talked about fire and fury and my button is bigger and it works and we're going to do things to you. This is brinksmanship. And I think that this is your typical gunboat diplomacy, which is you literally put a giant gun ship off the coast of a country. You start blowing stuff up. And then you say, this is the United States of America. You have 24 hours to leave. So you're right. I mean, there is a reason they have the warships there, and that is for a demonstration of force. It's a gesture, which reinforces deterrence.

Deterrence is really the foundation of everything. Wars are only fought because of miscalculations. And the point of doing a carrier strike group is to say, we have the assets, we're willing to use the assets, and if we do that, then you lose. There's no scenario where you win, it is over, so surrender or die. And that's where someone like Maduro and Venezuela says,

all right, uncle, you can, you will. I guess I'll just take my deal and leave. So I think that's really the play there. I still think that there's going to be kinetic action. I think there's a good possibility of ground strikes. It will definitely escalate. But I don't think this is going to be some sort of full scale. Absolutely. Just to be clear, they had two aircraft carriers there.

They pulled them out, put the Gerald Ford the biggest and newest in. And they have five or six of the big amphibious marine and Navy smaller carriers. So, but just technically there's a lot of ships there. Yeah, it's the biggest force posture in the Caribbean ever, I think, is what they said. It's more warships that have ever been deployed in that in the Southern Command, field of command, than ever in the United States. And Trump has said that on true social. So, I mean, you're certainly right.

It's a massive force posture. And it's definitely going to be used for something. military. I just don't think it'll be a full-scale ground invasion. That's just not enough assets, actually. I don't think they have enough personnel for something like that because the chain of command is dispersed. If they're going to do a kind of effects-based operation, they're going to go for command and control. You're talking about invading multiple cities. You're talking about jungle terrain, huge population. You need more than 20,000 troops. They have 12,000. You need 20,000 administrators to take over Venezuela. It's the size of Texas. Exactly. Exactly. So that's not an invasion force, but I think there could be a, there's a possibility of kinetic strikes on the ground, even though there might not be an invasion. All right, shifting gears.

I watch the show a lot. You mainly cover policy and issues, so do I. But the whole soap opera that's begun with you and Tucker and then back and forth, that's kind of blown over, Candice Owens, the ongoing thing, I like Candace, and just all the other stuff that's happening. And it seems like everybody else does it now instead of, because I don't think they have depth. I don't mean her.

I mean, some of the other talk shows to do it. They just want to have a fight with somebody. But I went and examined throughout, since Kirk was chilled on September 10, so many of the claims, not of Candace, but am I trying to kiss her ass? When I talk about the claims, most of us other people, above a guy shoots him under the arm or oh it's a camera gun that's a bottle of water you can see it and then just on and on and on and now it turned into the french and the u.s. military and the

Israelis and the Egyptians and she's like i've got these planes and i've got the proof and then multiple groups you can see it online went and bought the data even more data that's public it messes with it and he can duplicate it and most of the time you know she was saying these planes were here it was actually overseas and they were another continent. So I was learning all this last week, finally forcing myself to do the deep dive on it. And when I learned days before people knew about it

that they were going to meet in Nashville a couple days ago about this on Monday, I said, I bet Candace comes out and wants to be friendly now, kind of have the cake and eat it too here, because I knew they were going there in a four-and-a-half-hour meeting. I know it would be that long to say, here's all this information you know the claims that oh just asking questions but oh they're all stealing all the money

or oh you know I'm not saying Erica Kirk did it but boy they all sure want him dead and so my issue is is that it's so destructive and it became a huge soap opera where I'm at the grocery store and I'm you know anywhere people are coming up asking me about it and I'm like I don't know

I know most of the stuff I looked at from Other people saying stuff didn't turn out to be true. And I know now the last draw from the last week was Tyler Robinson in court. With the trans flag tie, find that B-roll. And he just, you're watching him, and he looks like Jeffrey Dahmer. And he's turning around. He's all proud of himself. You know, he's laughing.

The leftist lawyers love him. He had at least 10 people that said he's going to be dead, you know, in the next few days. And so I did confirm Cash Patel said no investigation. into that. So there is some type of cover-up going, but I don't know of what. But the idea, knowing the TPSA, people, a lot of them for a decade, I don't tell this operations work. You don't include all these people killing us. We heard, oh, they killed him on the stage, the lapel mic, a pop-up deal, a guy in front of him, a guy behind him, you know, then it was airplanes and this and that. And so it's just not the way the world works. And so I saw all of this

so destructive, definitely hurt Trump in the polls, and then I just wonder where all this is going, and then I wonder if where we're going to get any real answers, and I know you've been a critic of Candace Owens, I just know in one issue, there's like a soap opera that can't be answered because there is questions, but then it's just this

endless factory of never getting to the answers. What do you think of this whole fiasco? Well, I think she's an amateur conspiracy theorist. I think that she's somebody who, for many years, she had other people writing her script for her. She had Ben Shapiro writing her script. She had Charlie Kirk writing her script. And it was easy enough to go and say that black people are going to vote Republican for Blegzid and whatever she was supposed to say, a daily wire. Now that she writes her own script and she's sort of glommed on to this conspiracy stuff, it's like you say, she really

doesn't know how to create a theory, a conjecture, a postulate. She doesn't know how those things work. And you're right. If there's going to be some sort of grand conspiracy, you compartmentalize it. You don't tell, you don't get 2,000 people in a room from France, Israel, Egypt, the admin, this and that law enforcement agency and turning point and say, all right, everybody. So we're going to plant the explosive microphone. And then we're going to do this. And then we're going to, you compartmentalize it. And you probably have a handful of people on a need to know basis. And maybe it's one faction of one Intel agency, that's typically how these things unfold. But this is a person who is really just looking at anything based on other heuristics,

like, well, Charlie wanted to audit turning point. So it was a cover-up of a money thing. And, oh, there was some foreign people with foreign phones in the audience. So it was a foreign intelligence conspiracy. And just kind of going based on things that we've seen in the past, similar patterns, putting them all together into, I don't even know. what the theory is at this point and it's like you say false pattern recognition but you're almost being too kind here there was a sophistication whoever i think she is having somebody advisor

the sophistication kind of the q 2.0 esoteric nostic level of it or maybe she's just herself has some delusions and so maybe she was projecting that on but i didn't see some genius there well she's certainly good at what she does it is a soap opera and it's a serial. Every day we're going to check in and hear about the crazy new thing. And you're right, there is something maybe sophisticated and gnostic about it. I look at this guy who's been supporting her John Mappen. I don't know why nobody's talking about John Mappen, the Scientologist, the heir to the jeweler

that creates the crown jewels for the British royal family. He allegedly introduced her and her husband. He's been so supportive. She retweets him. He's writing letters to her. He was best friends with Charlie Kirk. wife is from Russia. I don't know why nobody's talking about that guy. No one's talking about George Farmer. They all met through Turning Point UK. So you have Turning Point USA. She met her

husband through Turning Point UK. She made a bag off of Turning Point USA and Turning Point UK. So there's definitely something suspicious going on there. Maybe a foreign intelligence play of its own, talking about the French and the French president and the French president's wife and France's involvement in this. So there could be some sophistication there. And I would say to the extent that there is a conspiracy, no one's talking about the Mormon mafia. I don't believe that there's some grand conspiracy to kill Charlie Kirk. I think, like you say, it's Tyler Robinson. And when you saw him make his court appearance, he's wearing a trans tie. And why would he be the patsy? If they're supposed to be, if this is about Israel or

some other thing, why do you pick some hick-lib, white guy, pro-trans activist? Why would he be the Patsy. And where are his parents? Where are the people like trying to defend him? It doesn't even make any sense. To the extent that there is a cover-up, it would be about the Mormon mafia because the killing happened in Utah. Turning Point is a Mormon organization. It's Utah public safety that's doing the investigation. I never even heard of that on her show. She never even talks about that. Instead, she's talking about her dreams and beekeepers and, you know, almost everything else. And by the way, I'm not banishing Mormons in general, a lot of regular people, but if you know about intelligence and steady politics, the Mormons have percentage the highest number in federal law enforcement and intelligence. So all you're saying is, in Utah, that area, it's a zone where you could definitely, if you wanted to change the outcome of something to it.

Exactly, exactly. And it's strange that it happened there because that is a zone of control where they would have a lot of influence, where they have like a mafia, like kind of stranglehold and that was never brought up which is interesting and i think that it's very comparable to q a non it's this is like q a non 2.0 where all these people have been whipped up and deputized and it's basically just destroyed people's faith in anything it's sort of interesting after her meeting with erika kirk she did her show yesterday and all the top comments were saying candace got the call candace made a deal we can't trust her but i saw many of the comments also said Now I'm just done with politics.

They're fatigued. They're literally fatigued, and they have been so wound up and twisted by this whole thing. Now that Candace is backing down and walking back all the claims, now they're saying, well, I'm just done with politics. Because I don't know what to believe. There's no one that's telling the truth. And so there you have it. There is the proof in and of itself. This has destroyed the confidence of the people in any kind of conspiracy theory.

any kind of alternative media. Because if you have alternative media gaslighting the people, oh, it's the French, it's beekeepers, it's a spiritual battle happening in my dreams when I go to sleep at night. And then you walk it back. Then people say, well, you know what, clearly this is just too complex or too corrupt. I'm just done with all of it.

When in reality, it really goes down to not signing UN treaties, not giving up sovereignty, deporting illegals, or HR 3492. And guys, check, it was supposed to be voted on, like, the last 30 minutes, to ban all transgender surgery, MTG. And the Republicans' establishment, a spider, is trying to block it, which would be a major win for Trump. So anybody that doesn't vote for this must be on the Pritzker funding. But that's a real thing. This is real action.

This is what we do 90% of the time. I get accused of being conspiracy terrorists, because I'll give my opinion about what's behind something sometimes. The truth is this show 95% of the time is just legislation and what's how. happening the world. This is real, folks. This is something we can do. Well, and that's exactly it. You know, we are people that are actually trying to change the country. And then you get these spectacles that come up. This is what this is, is a big, giant spectacle. It is a black hole. It's like you say, it's a never-ending serial and never-ending soap opera, and it's about basically science fiction. It's like a science fiction thriller.

It's like a movie from the 70s, and it's actually doing damage to people that are trying to reform politics. And the problem is a lot of these people, they just don't read. They don't read. They don't care. Hannah Sowne's read one book. She read that book, Chaos by like Robert O'Neill or Tom O'Neill or something like that. She read that one book. She kind of knows something's up with Israel, and that's all she needed to know.

And now she's whipped up into this thing where everything's connected to everything. It's Brigitte McCrown and the beekeepers and people wearing maroon shirts. Let's be clear. I mean, I saw her like a year ago ago. I just learned about the USS Liberty. And then I have people saying, how dare you not cover it? I only wrote books and made films about it 20 years ago. You know, and I'm not a competition with Candace.

I like Candace. But it is actually true what you're saying. Is this she emblematic, though, of people wake up? But you wake up and your fire alarm is going off. You don't know where the fire at or if it's a false alarm. You wake up and you smell smoke. You still got to find it. I think they're all woken up, and so now they don't have any real context or depth.

People are, well, you're 26. You've been doing this 10 years. Like I said, you were 12 into this stuff just like I was, so you've been doing it, you know, 20 years or whatever, or 18 years. So, so, and we're not trying to be elitist here. It's just that I know light years more than I knew five years ago. And the Alix Jones five years ago was pretty smart. And the Alix Jones was 20 was more informed than the average, you know, Patriot right now. so but but then the problem is I have all this knowledge and I

give them complex answers as it's complex and they go and that's what I talked about yesterday and I got spun by the media of the Jones attacks Fuentes and Tucker I didn't even say your names I was talking about people that said I mean literally had a post like a week ago hey Chernobyl's leaking this is a problem and a third of the comments were cover it up for the Jews cover it for the Jews it's like if an earthquake happens in LA I'm going to talk about the earthquake it's not about Jews I'm all about criticizing Israel and Jews doing stuff but

But that's a microcos. It's not just those people. They've woken up, they've got informed about that, but that's their lane. And so to them, that's the only knowledge they have. Does that make sense? 100%. And I've seen this so many times because I operate more in this wacky space or whatever that does fixate on Jews, Israel, whatever.

And it's like a red pill psychosis. It's like people can't handle it. They take one red pill and they say, oh, there's this sort of hidden truth. There's this esoteric truth. There's this hidden reality. but when they have no deep background, they have no general knowledge, they don't actually have a practical experience with this stuff. It goes off in all these different directions, and people start to talk about, well, that means the earth is flat, and that means that Trump is the shadow president, and that means that the Khazar Mafia, that's really what it's all about. And they go down to all these different rabbit holes, all these different red herrings, because you're right, without context, without that sort of ground.

And context is really key. You do need a ton of background information to understand how we got here. It's thousands of years of history, theology, philosophy, politics. You need to have some grasp on a lot of these subjects. You really need to be read wide and deep into these subjects to begin to contextualize it. And like you say, okay, we're doing a show about the liberty. I just found out about it last year. Oh, and coincidentally, now everything is it, literally everything is Israel.

Charlie Kirk is Israel, the Bondi shootings Israel, Browns, this, that, and the other. Now, me, I'm going to say it's Israel, let's say 60% of the time, now that's not good enough. Because the people that got red pill two minutes ago, well, they know it's 110% of the time. And unfortunately, all that does is discredit the people that are actually doing the hard work, actually doing the research, actually reading the books,

doing the hard work to figure these things out that are in touch with reality. I saw a lot of people say, well, it's the Jews every other time, so it's the Jews this time. That's like the gambler's fallacy. You know, like these are just basic logic problems that people are committing because they deliver Domino's pizzas for most of their life. Now they're a red pill savant or something. So I'm totally with you. There was a taboo against criticizing Israel. It was used to take free speech around the world.

Israel's been heavily involved in so much bad stuff. We cover it. And it's good. that taboo's gone. It's totally safe now to attack Israel all I want. But I only do it when I actually see something real. And again, it's the constant frustration of like Chinese water torture where I'm like, hey, you know, China is making a move here. Why are you coming up for the Jews? And it's like, no, there's other things going on. It doesn't take away from the Great Awakening to foreign influence and all that's really healthy. But exactly, people cannot

then become lunatics that only know one thing. You know, it's like when you said, let me see the evidence, Israel killed Kirk. And they go, oh, you got money. You got a $7,000 check. It's, but it's also about, like, an elitism. Like, we're older than now. We're going to say actual intellectuals that are historically informed. Because, you know, you've debated on my show, some of the best out there, and you've won those debates.

I know this stuff, as much as you do or more in some cases, but I don't even say it's good as you do on the foreign policy. I mean, you're knocking out of the park. But these guys are just saying, nope, Nick's not good either. themselves feel good like they just got on the field with Pat Brady or Michael Jordan in their prime and beat them. But they're literally just saying, I'm better than Michael Jordan. No, you're not. And it's not about your criticism of us.

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All right, I want to be 100 percent clear, provided the chiefs not understand this. Here's the headline yesterday, and it got picked up all over national TV. I can't even keep track of it. I don't even really focus on that because I don't have time. I always wonder about the new news or legislation or geopolitical things. But what I said, not yesterday but the day before, is all over the place with the headlines. Jones turns against Tucker Carlson and Nick Pointes because of their Nazism. Which is, again, didn't, not attacking him.

They're not Nazis. It's lies within lies. And they show like a two-minute clip of me talking about the people that said with no reservation that the attack over the weekend in Sydney against the Jews celebrating Hanukkah wasn't a Muslim attack. And then it was, you know, Israeli Mossad. Now, is Israel staged false flags? Yeah, we've covered it. Etnauseum, the stand down January, October 7th was one, the Levant Affair, U.S. liberty. Yeah.

But no, you've got thousands of imams saying they're going into jihad now. This is the phase. They quote the Koran, how Muhammad took over Medina and after that launched his attack. It's a formula. And so my issue is this. The politically correct groups you've seen, I can play montages that are hours long, whites are inherently evil, Catholics are inherently evil, Christians are inherently evil, the family's evil, the nuclear family's evil. there's a lot of leftist Jewish groups funding it.

It's a lot of Americans, others get mad at that. It is healthy to criticize Israel. It should not be a sacred cow. It should not be a taboo. I just simply don't want to be somebody that lies about it and then uses it, again, as a black hole total diversion. So I've always said, how dare you have Dick Fuentes on back when I was being de-platformed, you know, over it. And another thing is, it's like you can't criticize him when he's mild compared to what's taught in the university.

about all the West needs to die and everybody needs to die, but then there's the issue. I can play you hundreds of new videos. We already did the last few days of in the U.S., in Europe, in Australia. Kill the Jews, kill the Christians, murder them, murder them, them marching around the

Melbourne Cathedral, thousands of Muslims, very threateningly, attacking Christian displays, truck attacks, all of getting covered up. Cops getting stabbed in Washington State by people screaming, Al-Aqbar, doesn't even hit the national news. So Nick said, a few weeks ago, on my show,

he said, yeah, I think Europe's got a big Muslim problem, which is true. There's three times more of them over there than here. But he said, in the U.S., it's really a red herring for Israel. Well, it's true that Israel lobby uses the threat of Islam to distract from itself. But that's like saying somebody burns down your house, you know, or burns down the business next door to a bank. to divert the cops while they robbed the bank.

It doesn't mean that the restaurant didn't just get burned down. So it's two different things. So I'd like you to elaborate on that and actually give us your take on it. Because if you study the Quran, it's a military takeover manual. You have the Muslim Brotherhood that's allied with Obama and the Democrats and Starmer and the deep state in their larger plan. You've got the UAE and Saudi Arabia of all their own issues that have been warning about that group because that's their enemy. But if you look at terrorism historically, it's like 90%. out of the Muslim Brotherhood.

So my point is, is that, yeah, it's not existential yet here, except you have the same alliances with the left, with Islam. And so with that combination and them as the foot soldiers, so what if there are only 5% of the population or whatever, that as a motivated group that vote how they're told, donate how they're told, look at the Somalis, you know, 8 million stolen, we know of now, is that it's cancer. And so I'm not trying to dunk on you to say, you know, admit you're wrong,

elaborate on it, I get your point about it being used by Israel's distraction, but then I get all this criticism constantly every time I talk about Islam saying, why are you covering up for Israel or whatever? And to me, I just cover any foreign, powerful thing trying to take over. So whereas Israel has organization, money, control, manipulation, very sophisticated. With the Muslims, they've got a caveman book, but when humans are willing to follow an order, we're powerful. And so, I mean, I do see it as one of the main threats. So where do you see this? What's your actual views on this?

Well, my actual view on the whole situation is, of course, we want to live in a Christian country. We want to live in a country with Christian government and mostly Christian people. And I'm not in favor of bringing Muslims in as refugees from wars or even for that matter as immigrants and setting up these enclaves. I look at, for example, the Somalis in Minneapolis. list. I don't know that any patriotic person can say that this, that Minnesota, which is a land of like Swedes and Nord, Norwegians, Finnish, that this is going to turn into an enclave of Somalians wearing hijabs and, you know, that's all the kids in the schools and all the signs are in Somalian, the mayor is speaking Somalian? I get all that. I guess I would just say, when is the last time there's even been a Muslim attack in the United States? It has to have been years. And in the meantime, we've had all. kinds of other attacks from Antifa, people that hate ice, from transgenders. There's an assortment of threats these days, and it's not to minimize it, but it's to say, you know, we live in a time of violent fanaticism. And even when you look at the demographic numbers, I guess I would just

say, what exactly is the threat? And people might say, well, it's obvious. It's terrorism. And okay, yeah, that's valid. I mean, there's certainly terrorism. But for example, this guy at Bondi Beach, that's an Australian, not America, firstly. But secondly, he was known to law enforcement. He was known to law enforcement specifically as someone who was connected to an ISIS terror cell. And so my question is more, this is frequently the case, these people that commit these acts of terrorism, even that Afghan that committed the shooting recently here in the United States. He was CIA. Right, exactly. He was CIA. He worked with the U.S. military. So it's like all these people that are committing the attacks are all in bed with the government or known to the CIA.

government. Maybe we just have the government do a better job of sniffing this stuff out? I mean, there's a lot of Muslims. I respect what you just said. I don't think terror is the threat. They do that once they get a big enough control of a town to push you out. That's in the Koran. And it's Medina takeover. He explains how to do it.

That's what they read that and they do that. It's not just random stabbing the things the imam tells them to do it. It's Mujahideen. The real threat is they now say, we failed taking over the Europe because we did it militarily. We're going to vote ourselves in. We're going to access the war Chas to take over that way. So that's the problem is if you get up to 5, 10%, look at Europe,

they're a swing vote that goes with the left almost 100% of the time. So I don't see the terror as the threat. I see them not being able to help themselves, some of the Orthodox Muslims that are doing it as them not being able to help themselves and jump in the gun. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. And I agree with you about Europe, because that's where they're mostly concentrated. But here in the United States, it's just such a small fraction of the population I don't consider it in that pantheon of major threats. I view it as totally secondary because the major threat with immigration is India. India is sending these like people by the hundreds of thousands here.

And they are true colonists because they will take over an entire business. You get one Indian in the business. They hire all people from their caste from India. And then in five years old company is India. I mean, on average like Indian people, okay. Don't dislike them where they are, but I know the history of right. And I saw this number about a month ago. It did a deep dive on it for like three hours.

It's worse than they said. I saw like a Breitbart video. I pulled the Breitbart animation of it. 70% of the H-1B visas to the U.S. are from India. And something like 85% are from one province who came here 50 years ago, bought hotels, bought gas stations. And then it's a mafia where they have to send the money back. And then they're big on paying off politicians. And it's true, folks, any Indian business that they do the bankruptcy thing.

there because they'll work the system. You go to the airport now with like 20 Indians that are young in wheelchairs. They're like, well, why shouldn't I go to the front of the line and be pushed? If it's legal, I just say I'm disabled. And it's stereotypical, but it is happening. But it's that particular tribe, particular cast is the vast majority of Indians coming here. And they're literally, yeah, let's play this report with audio in a minute. They literally grease the skids.

So you're absolutely right that these are tribal groups. Like we think the Somalis are an issue because they're tribal and do what they're told. controlled. We're all taught like Italians. It was just really Sicilians were a mafia. This is amateur compared to the Indians. So you're dead on about this. Let's roll the short club. We know from decades of government data that H-1Bs overwhelmingly go to men arriving from India. And not only do they go from men arriving from India, they come from one area in India, one small area in India. So this one, if you believe that the H-1B is, is bringing in the best and brightest from around the world.

How is it even possible that this one region in India is producing seven and ten of the world's geniuses that we're bringing in on the H-1Bs? And it gets worse than that. So, sorry, I don't interrupt you. I want to back what you're saying. Yeah, India. Yeah, so in terms of immigration and, like, a demographic takeover,

or it's Indians, it's Chinese, it's Mexicans, it's Venezuelans. To me, just in terms of the numbers, those are the biggest ones coming here. And then in terms of political influence, I mean, you're right that Muslims are in bed. Some of these Muslim organizations are in bed with the Democrats. But again, I fall back on who are the biggest donors for the Democratic Party. It's like Michael Bloomberg. It's Reid Hoffman. It's like it's all pro.

That's another question. Why are prominent Jews, the dominant group? along with Catholic Charity, shipping any legals to the West? Well, I think that Jewish people, they benefit as a group, the more multicultural that America becomes. It's a very simple formula, which is that if America's all white and all Christian, Jews stick out like a sore thumb, and it's easy to segregate them and easy to discriminate against them.

If America's completely diverse and there's all different types of people and we're liberal and tolerant and pluralistic, well, then they're just a group. among other groups. So this is just a strategy. Because of course, in Israel, they want homogeneity. They want the country to be all Jewish. They want Nen Yahoo to be their king. You know, they are aggressive militarily. That's how they are when they're the majority. When they're in the minority, they want America to be as liberal and tolerant and pluralistic as possible. So that's why 80% of them are voting Democrat. That's why their billionaires are putting

money behind the Democratic Party. And so that's why I would say that it's really these other groups that are the bigger issue. And don't get me wrong. I don't want Muslims influencing the country. I don't want Muslims pouring across the border. But in terms of if your problem is foreign lobbying, Democrat power players, clannish behavior, ethnic enclaves, you got all these other groups you got to worry about that just in terms of the numbers are more pernicious. And that's not because I'm like infatuated with Muslims. If we were living in Europe, I would be Tommy Robinson. If we were in Europe, I would be saying, yeah, Muslims, they're doing their call to prayer. This is a huge issue.

They got to go. But we don't live in Europe. We live here. So I think we just have different problems because America separated by an ocean from the Middle East in a way that Europe is not. So they pour into Europe over a land bridge and over a very small, you know, straight in the sea. And we're in Europe. Yeah, go ahead. So let me ask you this question.

You seem overly. We're somewhat optimistic, I'm going to say overly, and I'm optimistic as well, separate from Trump, populism rising, the West rising, Eastern Europe rising, what futures do you see, or sometimes I see you seem optimistic, sometimes you're not, regardless, where do you see the future going? Well, I'm not optimistic in the short term because I think there is a cataclysm that's imminent. War with China, economic collapse, this debt crisis is going to reset the currency. But I'm optimistic because the young men seem to have woken up. And some people call me an accelerationist for saying this. I really think I'm just someone who thinks in terms of second and third order consequences, even let's say for Europe as an example.

one reason that I'm less worried about Muslims is that let's game it out okay Muslims take over Europe eventually that radicalizes all the white people even the liberals because liberals are going to start to say well we want feminism and we want gay rights and we want to have a general climate of licentiousness and is Muslim rule is not going to be conducive to that so on a long enough timeline you create enough Muslims in Europe and yeah there is like civil war conditions but that makes the Europeans become who they are. And I'm not saying we should do that. I'm not saying let's roll the dice. I'm saying you can kind of forecast out how that will play out. And you can see how Muslims being a very imminent and apparent threat is actually going to galvanize

resistance. And I view America similarly, which is to say that as America becomes more diverse, as it starts to fall apart, the young men are going to actually be galvanized by these things. That's why I've always said America first is inevitable, because if what we are saying is true, the country's going to get a lot worse. But people are going to change their behavior. People are not potted plants. They react. And so as the country gets worse, the cost-to-benefit ratio of engaging in politics, of being a radical, being, let's say, pro-white, pro-American, pro-Christian, it's going to change. 20 years ago, you didn't want to be a racist because it was such a high social cost and people said well why do we care about race and it was easy to say that

because race wasn't really a problem we lived in a country that was still mostly white and the diversity had not set in yet and the demographic change was not felt and so people said hey man this is like a big happy white country with some non-white people who cares if they cause some problems of their little root it's not a big deal okay 30 years down the line 40 50 years down the line, whites are the minority, Stacey Abrams is president, she's taking money from white people to give to non-white people, like we're at the end of a gun, we're at the end of a spear, then people are going to start to say, wait a second, we need to look out for each other, we need to band together. So you can sort of see how the only way out is through. So I'm pessimistic

in the short term, these systems and these ways of doing things that have been the way they are for a long time. They can't go on. It's not sustainable. There will be a a hard reset. There will be a true revolution in every domain of society. On the other side of that, there is an opportunity to make things better. It's not inevitable that we actualize it, but there is an opportunity that when everything comes apart, when things get really heated and hot, if the right wing has the numbers and the organization and the discipline, excuse me, we can take advantage of it and maybe we can then control the future. Well, all you're saying is true, I mean, And after World War II, we had the baby boom.

It happens in every country. When things are really good, nobody has children. Elon Musk talked about Rome was studied in Carthage. Their birth numbers were declining massively. Then they had this big war and almost get defeated. And they have this big giant boom. And then 300 years of a golden era. And this is a fact.

So we're not calling for hard times. But we're in hard times. We have to bypass the brainwashing where they put you in a hard time and convince you it's a good time. we have to admit we're in this fight and start thriving now. Here's the Globe of Veylon. What ended most civilizations was a low birth rate.

An extended period of prosperity seems to cause birth rates to plummet. And it's somewhat counterintuitive when a society is under stress, birth rates increase. So if you look at, say, ancient Rome, the birth rates were super high when they were fighting

the Carthaginians and And Rome's very life was at stake, both rates were all-time high. After they defeated a cottage and ruled the Mediterranean, the birth rates plummeted. And to such a degree that Julius Caesar even tried to pass laws like in 50 BC or something like that to give an incentive for any Roman citizen that would have a second or third child. So they were having birthright issues in 50 BC, which is pretty wild. And that was also true of really basically every civilization throughout history. So how do you avoid this birth rate collapse?

And I've seen the studies. There's like five or six trees. One of them is out in California, different species around the world that are in arid areas where they're up high. They're not getting hardly any nutrients. But because it's so bad, the trees are like 2,000 years old. But they've done studies with the same species of tree, plenty of water, plenty of nutrient. Grows fast, gets big, dies quick. So it really is true that we have to recognize we're in crisis.

And I'm not putting you on a spot. You're 26. You're still super young. But I had a couple kids by 26. Nick, you're under crisis. You're under pressure. You need to marry Cash Patel's girlfriend. I'm joking.

You need to marry Laura Logan. No, not Laura Logan. I don't want to talk about her. I don't want to get sued. I'm sorry. Laura Logan is awesome. And so is Laura Lomer. You should marry Laura Lumer.

Well, she just got engaged. Did you see? No. It was just announced today. She got engaged. Alex, they're taking them from me. First Candice Owens, now Laura Lumer. There's none left.

There's no women left for me. All my girlfriends are being stolen by the Trump admin, by turning point. Seriously. You've got to fix me up. You got to fix me up with somebody. Yeah. Wow. I know.

Well, who's he married? I don't know. idiot, I'm sure. I mean, I don't even know what that's all about. But yeah, there was maybe a future where me and Laura Lumer had some kids, moved to Israel, you know, converted and all that. I'd be at the Hanukkah party at the White House. But yeah, no, she, I guess she had another guy waiting in the wings for her, because I didn't step up, you know, I didn't give her the ring. Well, I'm going to be honest, you know, I'd break this news here right now. Laura Lumer is my daughter.

Wow, I could have married into the... family. Nick, let's be serious. Did you know I'm actually the son of Benjamin Antion. I can see the resemblance. Now, the funny thing is they're going to take that club out and say it's real. I've joked before. All right, we're almost out of time. There's so many other big issues. I can talk to you all day. Nick J. Feintez on Rumble. What is it like? Because, I mean, you know, it's not hype that your show's gigantic. Well, the top ones out there are 26. And all this stuff's going on. And the, the, the, the, the, the establishment's done, whatever establishment it was, this is definitely, people are not politically

correct now, it's only get crazier from here. What does it like to be the center of that, Zygus? Well, I feel the weight of the moment. For a long time, I was doing this, and it was just fun. It was a lot of fun and didn't have a lot of responsibility. I was just saying what I felt, and now that it's really coming down to 28, and there's questions about where the country's going to go, and maybe I have a real impact on that, real influence. I sort of feel the weight of the responsibility now, the risks, the danger, people are looking to me for guidance. So I take it seriously. But it feels good because it shows that things can change.

It shows the people have power. Everybody thinks they're powerless. You're a regular guy. Your pedigree is clear. Look how big effect you've had. Yeah. And I love what you say, because sometimes we talk about this and you say that the real trick that the devil pulls is to convince people that there's no good in the world. that nothing can change, give up, it's hopeless.

No one is doing the right thing. And I've lived it. You know, I've lived it. I was just some 18-year-old college kid, and I got canceled. I was left for dead, and my career should have been dead. But I just persevered. I just kept doing what I do. I kept just telling the truth.

And eventually, I think through a lot of luck and hard work and people like you and others being supportive along the way, it turned into something that is now having an impact. And there's a million people out. there that are like you and like me they want what's best for the country they have talents they have ability they have character and i'm just calling on those people to just take that first step make the right decision start today tell the truth do something for the country be a patriot we we actually can change our destiny ultimately it's in god's hands but we can be used by god to do the right thing and i think that um you know hopefully that's an inspiration if somebody like me

could do it. Other people can do it also, because I started with very little and I have a lot of defects and flaws as we all do. But it just starts with, are you going to be a part of the solution, or are you going to be a part of the problem? Well, what the power structure hates is, if they can

censor us, they can twist what we said, take out of context. They hate people actually hearing what we actually say versus what they claim we said out of context. But people should check out your show or you do a live stream tonight? Yes, I think I do a show tonight what like after trump speech yes yeah probably so i know you're going live

you'll cover that and then i'll go live after that yeah i mean i'm at least be on with ban and i may do a simulcast we're like 730 tonight and through it uh so we'll be watching uh nick you're you're hard to get a hold over the phone he tell you some other stuff so i'm going to try to i'm off in like a minute i'm gonna call you about five minutes real quick all right okay sounds good all right thanks nick great interview thank you all right all right very thought provoking uh Let me say this, Harrison Smith's taking over. War Room, done a great job. I'm completely maxed out.

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