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Episode Date: July 7, 2025

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Tomorrow's News today. It's Monday, July 7th, 2025. I'm your host, Alex Jones. As you know, has broken loose. We are entering the 100th and 68th day of Trump being sworn in, almost the hour 168 days ago. All right, obviously everyone is tuned in, and we're going to have, probably said a 20 million viewers and listeners say probably 40 million because everybody wants to obviously know what I'm going to say and what my guests are going to say about the Epstein DOJ Trump administration cover up. And that's what it is.

Make no mistake. And more than just that, it is a joining with the entire conspiracy. Now, the bigger question is, why on earth would Patel, Bongino, a few months ago, we'll get the clip, go on Fox like deer in the headlights,

like they were both at guns of their head, hostages, the body language was, this is BS. You couldn't come across as more disingenuous. It completely blew up in their face and they went around continually doing it on other shows. Now, they're both very smart. men. And very smart

people obviously wargamed all of that. And it flew 100% in the face of what they'd said previously and what Pam Bondi. The AG had said literally weeks before that. Hundreds of new victims, videos,

Epstein and others raping children. It's so horrible. And then doing a 180 and saying, you know, we're going to release the video soon of a Epstein killing himself, then it's not that. And just all this, you could not hurt the Trump administration worse if you tried to.

And so this is 100% like a Japanese samurai taking a short sword and jabbing it in on the right side of his stomach, drawing it towards the middle, and then pushing it up and jabbing it in their heart. Sepaku. So why is the DOJ particularly committing Sepul? I mean, their credibility before with the Democrats was in ruins, but to watch a self-inflicted wound like this, because I know this story and this issue up one side and down the other. And obviously, I woke up at 6 a.m. this morning, and this had broken overnight without about 6, 8 hours,

and it was another vicious punch to the stomach. And then it took me a couple hours. I mean, I instantly knew it was going on, but a few hours of process and really think about it. And I know in the main exactly what's going on. And I made some phone calls to people like Roger Stone and FPI whistleblower called Serafin and others, and they all basically concurred with my analysis.

In fact, Stone was already saying it before I gave my opinion. I said, what's your opinion? It was exactly the same thing. Because it's not our opinion. So if you want to know exactly what's going on here in the main, I mean, I know in the 35,000-foot view, that there's a lot of particular components. And what you're going to get from me today is just the facts you can make your own decision about all this. but understanding the way they fell on their sword this way

was part of an obvious deal with the deep state to go out and join us in the conspiracy and then you'll have a deal with us to stop trying to kill Trump and the rest of it. I mean, that's what this is. And we're going to lay it all out straight ahead. It's almost poetic the products that we sell because, yes, they are the best.

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Well, so does he. Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide. It's Alex Jones. It is 7.725. As I come to you from the Battle in Full War Studios in Austin, Texas, we are in the 167th Day of the administration about to go in the beginning of the 168. I know exactly what's going on with the Epstein cover-up. Firestorm, and I'll be laying an all-out interspersed other key news today with Roger Stone,

Kyle Saraphan, and others. But first, let's go back in the last year to the Time Vault with President Trump and J.D. Van's what they had to say about the Epstein client list, we're now told doesn't exist. Here it is. But a lot of big people went to that island. But fortunately, I was not one of them. It's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public. Yeah.

It's very interesting, isn't it? Probably will be, by the way. So if you were able to, you'll be... Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago. You know, they do that for danger, too, because, you know, endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera. So Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing. But, yeah, I'd be inclined to do the Epstein.

I'd have no problem with it. Everybody has – everybody in politics has a vice that's much worse than alcoholism, is the way that I put it. But we – Release the list. Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list. That is an important thing. All right. There's a lot of pieces to this,

and it's important to review the history some, and we'll be getting Carl Serafen, very well-known, very respected, FBI whistleblower, so much what we know about the deep state, and it's corruption in Target, America people's because of him and others. Roger Stone, obviously, long-term Trump, confidant and wingman,

who knows a lot about Trump's sexual proclivities, and I can tell you from many other sources, it's not children, and it would have been brought out if any of the stuff that the left tried to put out about him is true. That said, here's the summation of what's going on, and then I'm going to walk through it all. They knew the Democrats under Comey and his daughter in New York had this giant trove that they gleaned from the Caribbean and New Mexico and New York out of the layers of Jeffrey Epstein. And so when they didn't turn it over, they raided them now four months ago. And then Bondi went on Fox News and said, yes, there's thousands of files,

meaning computer files, video files, you name it, it's terrible children abuse, it will come out. and then she got caught under cover, basically even elaborating. And then when she knew that video was coming out, she talked about a press conference a few days later. That was James O'Keefe. And there have been rumblings in D.C. about an ongoing cover-up. We knew what was going on previously. And I said it's too early to tell we got to see.

And then when Bondi, we confirmed us from Serafin and others, sent the files out to all. offices around the country, which is what you do if you're going to start investigating something. That's how the law works. A few months later, I talked to Sarah for another sources. They said, no, no one's working on it. So what they did is load the gun, cock the gun, put it to the deep state CIA head. That's what this is.

And Trump's got his guy supposedly ratcliffe over there. And they said, make a deal with us and basically roll over and surrender. stop your deep state attacks, and we were elected, let us run things, and we'll shut this down. That's what happened. Trump doesn't have sex with children. Trump was never involved in any of it. We've had the court cases. We've had the witnesses.

We've had multiple women that they killed saying, no, I never saw Trump on the island. The two men were socialites in New York. They lived in the same area of Florida. He was a member of the club. 15, 16, 17, 70 years ago, Trump kicked him out. We're trying to pick up people's 14-year-old daughters, which is what he was well-known for going out and procuring, and it was quite the workhorse of evil.

And so we know this backwards and forwards. I know a lot of people that have stayed with Trump and has in New York other places, and they've gone out with him, partied with him, doesn't drink, has his wife in between that, has girlfriends. and Roger used to be his wingman when Trump didn't want people to know who his girlfriends were. Yeah, we'd go out to dinner so you can take his girlfriends out. That's really where Roger and Trump got together. It's been in the New York Times 20 years ago, but Roger was like to talk about it, but that's the thing.

And you see Trump's type. It's his wife. Very intimidating, very feminine, very powerful. Lightning bolts shooting out of her eyes. If you understand criminology and the way pedophiles operate in psychology, Men that like flame thrower powerful women are not attracted to children. People like the people that have been running in the medical system, the guy that's not a doctor but globally controls all the poison shots. That's what one looks like and acts like.

A creepy, wicked, evil person. So we've got their M.O. From all the M.O. we know about Bill Clinton. He likes to beat up and rape women. and bite them. Not big on the kids, but he'll screw a 15, 16-year-old girl. I know the sexual proclivities of all these people because they have long histories. Nick Cheney, not into men, a bunch of the Republicans are.

He likes to break women's jaws. We know the stuff has come out. So Trump is not a pedophile. And that said, I just am getting that on the record from my recent. research. By doing this, though, the Trump administration is getting in bed with the elements of the CIA, MI6, and Mossad that ran this whole thing. And it is documented that Gisland Maxwell's father was Mossad, MI6, and on the Russian payroll. It's on record when the scandal came out, he owned most of the dominant media in the UK with the government, MI6.

that when that was coming out, they threw him off a boat and killed him. It's on record that that was the family franchise. It's on record that when Epstein married his daughter, he was marrying into the Mossad operation. She was the boss, not Epstein. So you now have Prince Andrew off the hook with this. and behind the scenes 100%, you know the CIA directors met with Trump many times on this,

and they said, load the gun, put it to their head, bring them to the edge, and then the deep state will roll over, but the deep state, the establishment, the globalist, said, you have to go on television and you have to have the FBI director, deputy director, do a tour, and say that he killed himself, and said there was no client list,

and say there was no blackmail operations, and that's what you've got to do. So this isn't the deep state blackmailing Trump. This is Trump administration in the blackmail business. So that's what this is. And so my integrity is king. That's not something I have to even think about doing. I cannot help it.

And I say that because Trump is good overall. He does care about the country. He does want peace. He is doing the best economic plan that anybody can do. He is trying to get our morale up. They have caught off 96% of the human smuggling. They are rounding up the networks and all the rest of it. They're minor, so it's cannot be in the news by law.

But you see the arrest and the reports. pouring in, just like the four guys that killed Jamie White. We only know two of their names because the other two are 16. So I'm seeing Homan and there are people, and I've got sources everywhere in the jails, in the FBI, on the border. It's, they are, they are, you see them, they are literally just explosively for the small forces they've got doing a great job. And this is not a defense of any of this going on. The only way I know how to report this is I'm having my own, not even mental struggles with this, just trying to look at it all and see what it is.

The globalists have wanted Trump dead. They've wanted him destroyed. They've come after him. They have viciously come after me. And hundreds of other prominent people, tens of thousands they've come after, but hundreds extremely. I have sacrificed so much for Trump. I know you have as well because I want to save the country and save the world. overall, and I'm not a lesser of two ebils person.

Overall, I'm very glad Trump is in. But now you understand why Musk, he's bounced back. He doesn't look like 10 years older than now, but there was about a week period, two-week period. I remember saying probably the crew because I don't want to run people down. Man, Musk looks really bad. Of course, I didn't think he was on drugs. He did a big test, put it out, totally clean. And he's like Trump.

He swills Diet Coke. That's a drug, very toxic. But other than drinking poison Diet Coke all day long. Like Trump, no, he's not on anything, but Diet Coke. Trump's on Diet Coke and Sudafed. Okay, fine. But let's just get everything out here. So within a week period, he looked like he aged 10 years, like his soul was sucked out.

And you can see Elon Musk has got a good soul. You can see most of his actions are good. but the point is, is that he looked really freaked out and really shaken up. And I'm sure at the level he was at, he was read in on what was about to happen. Now, he says Trump is on the list. The list is a dumb way of putting it. There are houses, that's in the FBI reports, houses full. The quote was, you could fill houses with what was it, Zorro Ranch alone.

Huge safes. We have the photos, file cameras full of VHS going back decades, DVDs, hard drives, memory sticks. Folders listing what it all is, these different world leaders and corporate leaders come to Zoro Ranch, come to Little St. John's Island. They come to the New York dungeon. have sex with children knowing they're on camera that is your initiation

just like MS-13 to get higher up in it you got to kidnap and rape and kill a little girl for Satan you know the old-fashioned Italian mafia you just got to you know kill people it's not just kill one person make your bones you got to proficiently kill and if you don't kill them do a good job

you just doesn't happen because you're not you can't do other kill if you didn't do a professional job. So, but you see, that type of mafia was just bound on culture and honor. Well, in the modern age, it's not enough that they got, okay, this guy's killed 10 people for us. Now we can trust him. No.

You got to go in when some 10-year-old that's been used up for six months in a dungeon is fighting and going crazy and, you know, and, all right, they're used up. They'll give them a dirt nap.

And they make these world leaders and political leaders, they got to go into a dungeon and they got to strangle or shoot, whatever they tell them to do, beat them to death, stab them to death, whatever they tell them. I talk to people, they've seen it,

it's come out, it's been in reports, it's not stuff you really see on the news. And they go to these bankers and people, and they tell them. They'll tell their wives, too. Listen, remember all that stuff he did? All the kids raping all the rest of it? We're going to kill you if you don't go to this address

and if you don't go into this room and if you don't kill these kids we got in cages. And they grab them by the throat and they say, you understand? You want it into this. You want to be part of this. You get in there and you kill them right now. And that's how this thing works.

Got it? So grow up, realize who are up against pure 100% Satanism. This is the real deal. So that's where we are. And you've got all these people going, Oh, did this happen for national security because Trump learned that Epstein was CIA and Mossad? Well, of course, everybody knows that. And you got Barr, who was the head of the, in the CIA.

and then Attorney General twice, his dad running the girls school where Jeffrey Epstein, with no education degree, tutored the girls as his first job in New York. And then Barr's dad writes a book about a space colony of little girls that the galactic elite go and rape. So they like to tell you what they're up to. And so this has all been a big joke to discredit the FBI, discredit the DOJ, and to have them take part in this. And Pam Bondi, oh, here's all the files. And then she learns from a New York source,

broken here with O'Boyle, another big FBI whistleblower. Two days before it broke. He said, no, our guy's just going to meet with her today, letting her know that there's actually this giant trove in New York. And then you see her go, oh, my gosh, put a cover sheet on, say, oh, my gosh, I'm going to go expose it. I'm going to ship it over there. And then you've got these forces behind the scenes that are manipulating all this thing. See, Bondi's got it. It's being sent to the FBI.

Better to do what we say. And so Bondi and Patel and Bongino, I guarantee you we're not even in on those high-level discussions. Now, other people came to them and said, listen, this is how this really works, okay? And it's for the greater good, and we're now going to control all these networks. We're shutting the networks down, got home and doing that, which they are, all evidence. But for the country and the world, if this all comes out, all these corporate leaders and bankers and people doing this, if this comes out it'll bring the country down

and we've got the UK and the king of England is going to get in line with us and everybody else with this information but they don't want that held over their head you're going to have to come out and you're going to have to tell everybody

that he didn't kill himself and put out a ridiculous video of the hallway entrance to the wing and cops dragging trash cans around and bringing people food and oh look well you know down and down that wing you know nothing you know he just killed himself see we're we're showing you this oh wow incredible nobody went in that door but police

jail guards yeah but who's in there with him he already said months before the cop convicted for murdering a bunch of people his bare hands was in there and already tried to kill it so this is what we get so if it doesn't make sense I mean, obviously, if they were going to cover this up, they would have just said, oh, we're investigating and just shut up about it. But they never did that. They instead run around looking like they're being made to walk the plank by Captain Hook, and there's a crocodile down there about to eat them.

Because Bongino, I know people that know him for a long time, he is a great guy. Cash Patel is a great guy. and they're now in the big leagues of the intelligence agencies, and I'll guarantee you, they've said, oh, we've seen the files. Yeah, imagine they go, okay, here's 14 terabytes the kids getting right. They're just like, oh, we can't trouble with you. You see, it's show, oh, but now they're going into the networks. And, but if you think, though, these networks,

are going to give up. If you think they've really made the deal, I wouldn't trust those people on top of mountain at noon with the sunshine. And I wouldn't turn my back on them for a millisecond. So this is 100% the CIA Mossad, MI6, that are the same thing. Zabigna Brazinski,

I've read most of his books. One of them he wrote the 70s. I remember my dad, and I was like, seven years old. I always wanted to read that book once I can understand it. He's like, this is a Brasinski book, Carter's National Security Advisor. This is how it really works. He admits that they run the criminal networks, including the child trafficking and pedophilia. And I go, what's that?

They grab kids, well, my dad's doing, but dad's constantly telling me how the world work. And he goes, when you get older enough, if you read this, he's in here admitting. He goes, well, we control the evil by controlling it. We have to run all the criminal networks and all the systems, but that way it doesn't get out of control. We control evil by being the evil. And last time I was on Patrick Beck David, you know, I talked about that and told that story there.

I need to remember which book that was. But, you know, Brazinski, before he died, got up at the CFR, their version of Canada, and said, you know, before we could propagandize a million people and it work, now we just need to kill everybody. We don't have what it takes anymore just to control, with brainwashing. Now it's just easier to kill everybody.

And he said, you know, I didn't have the Cameroosian Pol Pot kill all those millions of people with third the population in Cambodia. He said, but I set him up and gave him the orders to do it. He'd pull that quote up. Type it in. As M.ersinsky talks about Pol Pot. It's like, oh, I didn't do the killing. The U.S. didn't do the killing.

We just set him up to do it. Something even worse than communism. It was communism. It just didn't call itself communism. You can read her right, you're dead. You're wearing glasses, you're dead, because that means you know how to read. I mean, that's the communist to the next level. And that's why they all worship Resensky because he was one of their top strategists.

And it's all about how many people you've killed, how vicious you are, how soulless you are. And I had these people, I had Henry Kissinger, John Harmon, right in front of John Harmon, the head of the Kissinger group. he gave the speech right in front of my producer that's the only reason i've told you that story i've been given that speech probably 20 times by the globalists okay they're 100% real we'll be right back stay with us it's almost poetic the products that we sell because yes they are the best yes it is the best price for the highest quality yes they are a third party tested it's almost poetic because as we advocate for humanity what we sell to you is that which makes you or allows you to make yourself a better version of yourself whether it's getting

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It's Alex Jones. Do deep research have incredible sources, massive historical understanding, and then just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may. Just as be done, may the heavens fall. You can see the pragmatic angle from Trump if they do start prosecuting all of these world leaders and financial leaders, business leaders, in a giant deep state, child rape, initiation,

cult. If all that comes out, what will the aftermath be? Well, the world will see the United States, the UK, and Europe. That's how it operates as pure, absolute, complete scum. And so Trump is now using the Epstein files that they have, and we know they have, the videos, all of it, the client list, all of it. houses full. It would fill houses. FBI report. Just sorrow ranch. And it's come out in court. Where did it all go? Well, a bunch of them went to New York. And the Democrats were sitting on it and the FBI had there. Remember, I dug in. We're at war with Trump. We're not giving them anything. We're not helping them.

Remember the email? Don't work with them. Don't talk to them. They had to rate them. And then they got it. There's photos from the FBI. That's out in New York. hard drives and boxes after boxes of hard drives cabinet after cabinet of that

and then they come out and tell us it's all there art of the deal load the gun put it to the deep state head and then make a deal for the deep state to roll over and to hand the keys over to Trump and is Trump that it is dismantle it now

we're seeing a lot of signs of that, 96% reduction, the smuggling over the border, rolling up the network's doing it. I'm not defending any of this, by the way. I'm telling you what's going on. This is the thinking. But to make that deal, they had to say, okay, we'll go out and say there's nothing there

so that we can't then use it against you later. Because the bad guys say, well, how do we know if we do this, you won't alter the deal later. We want you to join the conspiracy. We want you to become accomplices out of the fact. We want you to get in the swamp with us and swim around and, by extension, join the cult. Or you could say it's a marriage.

So, no, I understand that they didn't have people even willing to prosecute this, people even willing to watch the videos see a couple don't want to see anymore and there's a tendency with something so horrible to cover it up like the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts and every other institution they get a few pedophiles in via the Jesuits

and then it comes out the parish covers it up they send the priest somewhere else they do it more then they use that as blackmail they get more of the cult in and that's how this thing works. It's a disease. This is in Palm Beach, I believe, and more of the

files and all the rest of it. So I forgot Palm Beach. It's not just rural ranch, not just New York, not just little St. John's Island. There's Florida. Yeah, this is Florida. And so yeah, they have it. Comey and the Democrats and Obama through the CIA were running it. Brennan. And they were targeting Trump, and now Trump's got it. So everybody's asking the elementary questions that have already been answered. It's like everybody keeps doing articles, look, Soros groups are funding the rioters.

We already knew that decades ago. Soros groups are funding the NGO open borders. Yeah, it was the State Department of money. So we don't ever talk about prosecuting them or stopping it. It's always just, now they are cutting the funding. Finally, real action. It's always just, oh, oh, is it Soros? It's the same thing here.

Is Epstein intelligence? Well, the U.S. attorney that had the limited hangout prosecution of him 15, 16 years ago in Florida, where he just checked himself in at night, you know, at the jail for a couple years or a year. They limited it to, you know, 16-year-old girls. That's just the surface. That's the gateway drug. And he said in court filings in an interview, he said, no, I was told, go easy on him. He was intelligence.

Well, of course he was. You got Ehud Barak. The Israeli prime minister caught there dozens of times. Trying to cover his face in New York alone. But everybody just stays at the level of, here, let's have an expert on and spend an hour. Was he connected to intelligence? I don't know. Does a fish swim in the ocean?

Does a bird fly in the sky? Is grass green? Gisland Maxwell's father, on record, was Mossad, MI6, and Russian agent. And, of course, anybody at the super spy level is a double, triple, quadruple agent. Any real spy is in the FBI, the CIA, and 10 other things, because they jump back and forth. So, Gisland Maxwell inherited the business. Epstein was her workhorse, who constantly completely, He had to have sex with up to 10 girls a day, just priming them and testing them and getting them ready.

That's a big operation. But it got so big and so much came out, they had to at least put her in prison. And that sends a message to all the people that are in blackmail. See, we'll put people in prison. And we can control the trials and limit it to just you. And who does that? Comey's daughter, Marine Comey, out of that same office in New York. It's all right there.

Now there's Maxwell's father on screen. So, and before they killed him and threw him off his yacht, they sucked all the money out of the companies and out of the newspapers and TV channels that he never really owned. MI6 and Mossad owned them, which is the same organization. Ian Fleming wrote about it. He was high level there. He called it Specter. You see, you will watch a cartoon like G.I. Joe, and there's the good guys, G.I. Joe. And then there's Cobra. Well, you know why Cobra wears a mask? Because he's the director of the CIA. You know why Destro wears a mask? He's MI6. They even tell you. He's an arms dealer from Scotland. He's a lord. It's all the big joke right in your face. And so they get to do their bad operations as Cobra. And right next to them's G.I.

Joe. That's the good guy. And a lot of COBRA soldiers get killed. And a lot of GI Joe gets killed. But at the end of the day, it's all run by COBRA. And now Trump is the head of cobra. The head of Specter. Trump is now the boss. He has successfully maneuvered in and took it over.

And the question is, will he now shut all this satanic garbage down. And these people don't just do this for power. They like it. So nobody else, and I wish other people were, because this is not fun to stick my head in a dragon's mouth. But it has to be done. People need to grow up and get informed and realize what's going on.

Yeah, the different houses, New York, the Caribbean, in Florida. Dental chairs, they call them. Mm-hmm. With dental devices like probes and medical extractors, you know them as pliers. So, oh, there's a lot of dentistry that goes on.

That'll get your answers real quick. Look at yourself in the mirror. Now watch your front teeth get pulled out. How's that? You want to do another one? Let's move on to here. Let's move on to, oh, that nerve's dying. Let's move with a drill over to this one.

So this is the real world. And what you had is an externalization of this because they've gotten sloppy. But the way this works, let me give me an example, for at least 100 years. The U.S. Army didn't do this before because that was a little secret thing the British and others did. And Washington said we're not doing that because we lose the moral high ground. But for about at least 100 years, they went back to it where, you know what it means to be an army officer in the special units? Because, you know, the enlisted, they don't get to know about this. To be an army officer, you go and you get your torture training.

I don't mean like evasion training where, oh, we teach you out of torture in case you're capture, but really we're teaching out of torture. That's for the enlisted. No, no, they have actual torture training. And the torture devices, the electricity, and all the rest of it. And see, that's what is. Be an officer, just like in the Navy, you'd have the regular sailors on one end of the ship, and then in their own area, you have the officers, and the officers aren't supposed to fraternize or really talk to the regular people

because they're not supposed to know how compartmentalization works. We'll see on this broadcast, that's what we do is de-compartmentalize. So, Bongino and Patel get put in, and overall cutting back crime and going after human trafficking and all the rest of it, they've massively accelerated the good work. They're doing a bunch of good work, but they're the Boy Scouts. You guys sit right over there, and you Boy Scouts now, you go on TV and tell everybody, Epstein killed himself, and that there's no files and no blackmail, and that the Easter Bunny is real. okay and they're like all right we swore loyalty we'll go do that this doesn't make sense well i'm sure some people explain it to you later and then they sit down with them and just you know maybe it works like this dan maybe it works like this cash you understand how the real world works right

we can't let the enlisted people know that we torture women and children in front of whoever we want to get answers from you can't let them know that because well, you know, they're not strong enough mentally to handle that and to understand sometimes you've got to use the dark side to protect the light. Do you understand now, Dan? That's good, Dan. That's good, Kachan. See, you are a big boy doing big boy things.

And so this is the nature of how the universe really works. And I have decided many years ago that the best thing I can do is just expose how it all works. Because they can try to hide this stuff and use it for blackmail and all the rest of it. But at the end of the day, the truth is now out. And there's nothing the globalists are going to be able to do to stop it. And the externalization of the drugging the kids, the surgeries, the normalization of this sick Satanism is being rolled back by Trump. is being rolled back by the grassroots, and I see Trump actually pragmatically believing he made the right decision here.

I'm not defending it. I'm not endorsing it. I'm saying, because I can hold multiple concepts and thoughts and philosophies of my mind at one time. I can hold hundreds. Doesn't mean I have the one I know is right. I have the one that the Holy Spirit tells me to follow. But I can also understand this. And I understand that I, am attacking the corrupt satanic system from a completely different angle of total exposure. But in Trump's position of the country and trying to stabilize the world, he believes this is the right thing to do, and he's made the decision to take control of the blackmail material on Bill Gates and the rest of them. And that's why more and more you see them clicking their heels,

and kissing his ass at the NATO of events and just groveling to him. Because Trump never met with globalists, never made deals, always was his own man. Love that. Was not in their club because he understood they'd try to control him. Instead, he got in at the top of the club and took it over. Now, the question is, will he dismantle it? And the reason I'm saying I understand what Trump's doing is because so far we're seeing massive dismantlement of the real rubber meets the road of this system. They really are sitting in special operations to kill people producing fentanyl.

They really are stopping the human trafficking. They really are. People are falling downstairs. Let's just say that. It's happening what? People are falling out of windows. People are disappearing. And you say, oh, my God, that's super dangerous.

Well, that's what this is. And now you see real fear. When you see the Democrats, they're just the puppets, and all of them all scared and shaking. When Hakeem Jeffries did his eight-hour speech, and you look at their body language, they ain't so arrogant now, because they're picking up the phone to their bosses, and they're not getting phone calls back. They're getting disconnected. So the danger of this historically is that Lord Acton said power corrupts. absolute power comes absolutely.

It is historically been impossible to try to go in and take over an evil operation and not just burn it to the ground. That's the only way to do it. You try to go in and manage it and curtail it

and manipulate it. You're back to Brzezinski talk of, oh, well, we run the human trafficking and the pedophilia because we control it and keep it respectable and make sure they don't get wealthy people's kids and then we could I mean, imagine writing books where you're saying that you're the National Security Advisor. They're trying to, again, he knows policy wonks are reading that, and they're trying to see who will come up to them at parties and say, I really liked your book.

I'd like to know more. Oh, would you like to do some jobs for us? Well, let's see. Deliver this package. Deliber this note. Go talk to this person for me. By the way, yeah, you've done that stuff now? what you talk to this guy has got something else for you to do

I may call on you for a service and that day may never come but if I do I need you to faithfully carry out that service and there are so many good ideologues in the world who serve evil but believe they're doing it for a greater cause and that's called end justifies the means

and and in history when you're faced with an evil and you're being overrun it's very easy to say, well, I'm going to use dirty tricks too to defeat this evil. But you then, in time, become that. So this all remains to be seen. I see the good Trump's doing, directly derailing the entire pedophile, pedo, open takeover of our children on a mass scale. Shutting the border down. Taking new trafficking down to almost zero.

That's confirmed. That's really good. escalating it. And I see all the other good going on. And so I ask you, what do you think? Because I've just told you what it is. You know it's true. You've seen it.

You know deep down your gut, it's true. So it's not just Trump administration that's now using the blackmail and coming in. All of us are being as a society corrupted by this. Because instead of these people being arrested and going to prison, now they get to skate again and to be above the law. The argument is, well, they're going to behave themselves this time. Now I've got all the clips of the duplicity and the flip-flopping and just the outrageous behavior that is blowing up spectacularly

in the face of the DOJ. And the up and, of course, they knew this was going to happen. This is part of the deal. And I'll go over all the clips next hour, Carl Seraph and in studio, and then Roger Stone, and then more. today, and I've got all the clips, all of it coming up. Remember, it's very important to keep a broadcast like this on air that actually understands how things work, our guests, myself, the crew, this compendium, this focal point, to fight the next fake lockdown,

to fight the next virus, to fight the next war they try to start, and boy, there's big news on that. Head of NATO says, yeah, we're probably going to have a full new world war. We're already in one. Questions will go nuclear. I mean, it's just such a dangerous time in the world. and if we continue to see the arrest of the traffickers, the smugglers, you know, all that, the sex slavers, that's a good thing. If I don't see that continue and escalated and accelerated, then I am going to start taking an extremely negative view towards the Trump administration. Right now, I'm just laying out on the table what I see, and I'm going to cogitate on it and have a larger debate and take your calls and more.

But all the clips, all the details, the fact toys, it's all coming up. But yes, at the base level, U.S. intelligence, the CIA, heavily involved with the Mossad, MI6, and so they're like, Mr. President, it'll bring down the government. Well, the government already brought the country down. We're trying to get it booted back up right now. But that's the argument. This is too horrible. It just can't come out.

Okay, but we can now have control over all these people, and they'll stop trying to kill you, and we can get our agenda through for the greater good. Trump thinks about it. But I'm sure there's more. Yes, Mr. President. Well, meet with these people. And they want you to seal the deal and have your people say there's something there. And that's it.

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And he's been unfortunately proven right, and so we'll be unpacking that and breaking that down. But here is Bongino a year ago saying there's a lot of evidence that said, well, we know there is. They went and raided it four or five months ago in New York. So you can't say, oh, there's all these kids getting raped. and now there's nothing. This is the scandal of scandals of scandals.

He's coming in, but first here's Bonjino. The Geelaine-Maxwell case, we have an update on that from the telegraph. Turns out headline, evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe went missing after an FBI raid. Court years in Geelaine-Mexwell trial. Folks, listen, I have over a decade of experience as a federal agent myself. Who cares? Hey, look at me. experience. I'm just telling you for

to prove bona fides here, I have processed hundreds, if not thousands of pieces of evidence throughout my law enforcement career. I don't know how you would lose evidence. Let me explain to you how evidence works. You survey search warrant in Jeffrey Epstein's house, and let's

say, for example, you find videotapes or DVDs or whatever may be. You then take them. You tag them. You note where you found them. In many cases, you take pictures, in most cases now, you take pictures of where you found them. You cataloged them in evidence envelop, so you can't tamper with them, right? You seal the envelope. You sign the envelope. It then comes back with you in custody, and it goes back typically, well, in the Secret Service, to an evidence vault, which is a big, like, bank safe, in the office.

To go in the evidence vault, you have to sign in. To sign out the evidence, you have to sign out the specific piece of evidence. How the hell do you live? lose evidence in a case this big. Is it lost? Was it lost? Forget what I mean? I don't know. I'm just telling you. I've never seen evidence. You know what I did see evidence lost? Seriously.

Sadly, during 9-11, our office was in Seven World Trade Center, the Secret Service office. Seven World Trade came down. I promise we lost a lot of evidence. That's the only time I've ever seen evidence lost. Here's another thing I want to address. Someone sent me an email suite. You know, hey, Dan, remember that thing you'd mentioned a while ago about Epstein and the plane and Clinton? Yeah, like, when are you going to break that? I said, break what? I told you. It's not my, it's not my story. I can't say this enough. This is why sometimes I regret saying things on my show. It's not because I regret saying it. It's because people don't understand it. And I answer emails for a year when I'm clear as day about what happened. It's not you. It's just a limited number of

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It's not my information to give up. I'm not going to talk to you about details I don't have. But he did give me permission to tell you that, that it was odd, very odd what happened. And it bothered him forever. I'm not trying to be cryptic. The story, the guy's credibility is unimpeachable. Believe me.

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Well, the guest I like to have on have track records, have integrity, and have been proven right over and over and over again. And Kyle Serafin is right up there at the top of the list, along with O'Boyle, one of his colleagues, is also one of the huge whistleblowers. While we knew that they were hiding the 14 terabytes of child rape and the rest of it, the New York offices, and then, of course, Pan Bonney did rate it. Cash Pat Patel did rate it. These guys all broke that days before it came out. Kyle Seraphon, the Kyle Seraphate Show. Dotlocals.com.

Kyle Seraphon on X. Call serifant show.com on Rumble. Rumble.com. 4. slash Carl Serifan. Roger Stone is coming up in about 55 minutes from now and more. So, you got her just a little while ago. You didn't really hear much of what I had to say. We just talked on text this morning.

You said, when I woke up, I saw your text from last night and this morning. Hey, told you, we're getting nothing. You told me privately that three, four months ago. You publicly said that last time you were on. You've got a lot of contacts, obviously, of what's really happening. The larger issue here is when a few months ago, Cash Patel and Dan Mangino, the director and deputy director, went on Fox and then on other shows as part of a tour,

blow your feet off credibility-wise to her, saying, oh, no, he killed himself, and we're going to show the video, and there's really no file, there's really no nothing. And, oh, yeah, you know, the shooter at Butler Act alone, which, of course, the public knows the facts. We clearly know that's BS. So why would they then do that?

And then now do it again and totally contradict the DOJ and their statements and the 14 terabytes that they did send out, you confirmed the offices around the country, a 180 here that you predicted would happen, Kyle Serafen, from your own research, from your sources, what do you really believe is going on here? I think that the same people that are inside the FBI

that are desperately attempting to hold on to the FBI are doing a great job of it. That's what they, you know, their entire life, their entire administrative career is going to, can hinge on doing the thing that they're doing. They're isolating the guys that are that are in there. You know, I think that we should be, we should be honest that Cash and Dan are not the same person. They don't have the same motivations. When you assess somebody, Alex, for source work, you find out the way that you're going to, that you're going to lean on them. Some people are motivated by

patriotism. You say, hey, your country needs you. We need you. We need you to do this thing. And people jump up and they do that. Some people are motivated by money. Some people are motivated by power. You know, there's all these different little triggers that we find. And when you're out there trying to run sources, that's what you do. You know, you've got an entire agency that is dedicated, not to law enforcement the way people think. It's at least 60% maybe more captured by the Intel component of the FBI. That's the legacy of 9-11. So you've got Intel people running their own kind of game here. I think Dan is actually motivated by patriotism. I think he was asked and he stepped up. I think he's also motivated, unfortunately, by the kind of pride, which says he's out of his

depth, he was out of his depth, and he continues to be out of his depth, but like he can't, if If he was being honest about it, he'd walk away. And, of course, you were yourself and with counterterrorism espionage in the FBI. So I did two years work in counterintelligence. Then I worked three years on a team that did surveillance specifically. But the surveillance work we did was very focused and funded by the counterterrorism division. So, yeah, we did a lot of counterterrored cases. And then after that, I did criminal.

But here's the thing. If we analyze these guys, honestly, one of the biggest red flags, which I've been, I've been slowly going through my conversations. Less people think that I'm just speaking without having some background. on this. I had interactions with Dan Bongino on camera, off camera, texting fairly regularly back and forth, but we weren't like close buddies. And same story with Cash. I first heard Met Cash. I got a phone call from Cash while I was standing at a playground. I'd been kicked out of my FBI job for six months. I didn't have a paycheck. And he called me up and I'm standing

in Payson, Arizona, on a playground watching my little kids trying to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with my life because I don't have a job. And I have no real idea of what the hell I'm going to do next. Before that, you've been an Air Force, paramedic, all of it. Yeah, so prior to, you know, military, then law enforcement, working with the FBI. And then I go whistleblower. I go out first on Dan Bongino's show. We sat down for a couple hours, having never met before, had a two-plus hour sort of interview. And then, you know, now I'm in the world doing interviews trying to figure out what the heck I'm going to do next.

And I get a phone call out of the blue from a guy named Cash Patel, who I sort of knew existed in Trump's orbit that didn't know anything about him. And he said, I want to write you a check. I want to write you a check for $10,000. And I said, well, you know, that's really, it's really gracious. and I appreciate it, but I think there must be people who need it more than me. There's got to be. You know, like I'm not that desperate. My kids are going to keep eating.

I just don't know what I'm going to do. And he goes, no, I want to, and I must have turned it down five times. He said, I have money that is meant for people like you that are going up against the government. Can I write you a check? I said, you know, as long as you help out other people, too. He goes, I don't know all the other people. I know of you. So, let's do this.

So he agreed to, you know, he sent me a check from the fight with Cash Foundation. It's not out of his pocket. It's from the foundation. ended up helping Garrett O'Boyle, who you mentioned earlier, ended up helping Steve Friend, who's a friend of mine as well, another whistleblower. All of this goes on. Creating his bonafetes as a guy that's going to fight the deep stuff. As a good guy, yeah.

Like, no, who does that? Calls you out of the blue and says, I want to support you with $10,000 out of nowhere. And it was awesome. It's a nice thing to do. We continued on in a private sort of relationship where we've got, you know, text messages. When Trump won, he reached out to me and those guys and was like, how do I get this job? But the one thing that I haven't said a whole lot about Alex,

which actually is really alerting, is when we were talking about him, we're like, are you the top contender for the FBI job? Because we wanted to admit in the FBI because we knew him. And he said, I'll take CIA or FBI. He said, I'll take CIA or FBI. And we both know those are not the same job. They're not even close.

They're not related. Absolutely. And again, the problem is the intelligence agencies have taken everything over it. And that's what you're getting on. Even bigger than that, Cash Patel wanted to be a guy in the Trump administration, period. That was his goal. He has achieved his goal.

He's where he wants that. All right. So that's, that's a, that's a kind of motivation. than Dan saying, I want to serve the country, and I don't necessarily know. Sure. I understand you're doing at the point-blank range level assessing these men. Yep. Larger, let's just move on up to Pam Bondi and Trump. Yep.

Pam Bondi says, okay, I learned they have this. Rate it, get it. Send it out. That, to me, is loading the gun for the Trump administration to basically blackmail the deep state. All right, we're not going to release this. It's so damaging it can bring down the country. But now you're working for us. And now I see major signs that the deep state is. rolling over to Trump on a lot of fronts, though I think in time they'll stab them in the back. But that's my approximation here.

And this is a serious 180. So I want your view, you know, this is a citizen, a father, you know, a husband, the disaster level on the public fallout, and we'll play all these videos in a moment, of saying, yeah, we got 14, you know, terabytes of kids getting raped, hundreds of new victims. They're all going down.

You've got the U.S. attorneys on TV saying it. You got Pamboddy saying it in press conferences four or five months ago. And then crickets. And you said, no, I've talked to my sources. These were sent to the offices, but nobody's been put on it. So to me, that's loading the gun, cocking it to the deep state's head. And the administration using the blackmail file like J. Edgar Hoover would do in the past. Or we know the controller that the FBI through the CIA liaisons in Obama and Brennan was Comey and then his daughter and all the rest of it.

So to me, that's not even, I think my opinion. that's what this is and I'm not defending it I think overall it's terrible it's dancing with the devil what do you think I think they got rolled and I think Owen actually said it

yesterday on accident it was exactly spot on these guys would have been better saying nothing and hoping Americans forgot about this than doing the thing that just got done there's a little bit of they joined I mean they have now joined as accessories after the fact now to this because because

you can't say we've got 14 terabytes the kids getting raped, hundreds of new victims, and all these people, and Epstein doing it. You can't say that, and it's true, and then say, actually, there's nothing. I mean, this is, this is, how could they get the credibility of an already-tattered FBI and DOJ to commit public political suicide, Kyle? You do it by, you do it because they are running the show. The people that are actually, the ones that we are thinking are problematic are the ones that are still running this. You know, they just promoted the number three guy. By the way, we're not getting any press releases right now for the most transparent organization or transparent, what do they call it, administration and history.

We're not getting any promotion information. I think Trump's doing a decent job on a lot of fronts. I think there are places where he is winning. There are certainly policies that are getting enacted that are upsetting people and you can hear the screams about it. But we are not seeing that. And the Achilles seal that Trump has had has been DOJ and FBI. And I don't know if it's because he doesn't necessarily understand what goes on there or if it's just like it's so rooted in. Well, again, I have a great.

crew, but if they weren't so professional and dedicated and loyal, I have no idea what they're doing, you know, across the building. Right. And so Trump has millions of people under him. And I'm not trying to be an apologies for Trump. I think you're right. I think the jury's out. Well, let's see what Trump does to this firestorm now, because he said release it and do all this.

And now, you think he knows this happened? Because, I mean, I think this is an high-level deal. I think I think he's behind it. I think if Donald Trump wanted to see this stuff out, then he would make sure that it got out. I think if Donald Trump doesn't care if it gets out, then it probably doesn't get out. and if he wants it not out, then it doesn't get out. Well, you know why I say that. Two out of those three mean he doesn't do it.

Let me read. Well, just real fast. There's three or four interviews. I want your expertise. And I've listened to you. That's why everything you said, I know you said before. I'm listening. Kyle, respect you.

Sure. You're giving us your intel analyst on the ground, like reporting back what you saw. I get it. But I want you to go up to a higher level here. I've got clips played it last hour, start the show with it. Where Trump's like a year ago, well, it might hurt some people that are innocent. I don't know. Yeah, we'll probably release it.

Maybe not. Yep. And I get from that, he's like, no, I'm going to shut this down. And I do see them shutting down one of the human trafficking things. But we're thinking about using it. Go ahead. This is what I think is the problem. The folks that you're relying on for your analysis when you're in those positions,

you have to have good people feeding you intel. At least 80% of the overall intel agencies, the USIC, the United States intelligence community, they're academics. They are left-leaning. They think government is the answer. And they know that they're going to survive to the next administration. They won't be bothered. especially the people.

It's the permanent state. Permanent Washington, administrative state, deep state. They're all the same thing, right? This is something that McAvelli wrote. And my buddy said this to me. He was an intel analyst at DHS, sharp guy. He said this is coming from, this is 500-year-old information. This is something we used to all know.

This is why every single government, when they turn over power, they exile everybody from the old government. And this is from the intense city-state wars where the modern political science was developed in the ultimate ongoing cloak and dagger from what is Italy today. That's right. No, exactly that. And what he said is, he says, quote, he says, he then who sets out to govern the masses, whether in a free state or a principality, does not secure himself against those who are hostile to the new order, is setting up a form of government that will be but short-lived, which to me very, very clearly illustrates, if you do not go after the root of the problem. And the root of the problem is, GS-14, that's your first-line supervisors in the FBI,

to your mid-level S-E-Sers who are not probably named that most people will ever see, those people run that agency and they didn't get rid of all of them so they're all still running that agency which is why you've got a guy named William Rivers who just was made number three he was originally reported fired when they first took over

on January 31st like NBC like you know clutched their pearls all these people are being walked out the door like all these people from the administration and we were going like yeah that's what we voted for that's awesome do that guy's down the number three no press release no understand I understand you're FBI centric you're an expert

and it's fascinating but when I see when I see what Pam Bondi's got it going on too, what are they doing? They're saying one thing, and they're not, they're not necessarily actually saying the opposite of each other. They're saying things like, we have all these files, and we're creating imagery that there's hundreds of thousands of files and all these videos, but you can't tell me that there's a bunch of files that show illicit material, then put the director of the FBI out on Joe Rogan saying, if there was something that was criminal, we bring it forward.

And that's how you edit. No, I know. So this is what I'm trying to ask you. always gone the same route. I understand. They've just been dancing and kicking it out, like, to be continued. But, but, Kyle, here's what I'm saying. It's beyond that.

They're smart. Even a moron would know you shut up about it if you're going to cover it up or it's too dangerous or whatever. You can't get people to work on it because they're all scared. Okay. Then you don't say, we got it. We rated it. It's here.

It's coming out. They're going down and have the U.S. attorneys on TV, you know, saying, oh, yeah, we got it. They will be prosecuted. And then now, a 180, you couldn't do something more destructive. and it's clearly scripted and coordinated. So why the hell would they not just shut up? Why would they do the most terrible thing to their credibility?

Imagine the worst people chirping in your ear, giving you the worst advice telling you do the thing that's going to destroy you and it's going to work out great. What does it do? It isolates you. It leaves you all the people that would otherwise. No, no, I understand that. And you know that the intel agencies love to see people isolated because if you've got no other friends,

all you got is us. So you've got to be with us. And now you're on our team because no one else even cares about you. But even when they had the firestorm in the last few months, they still went on that stupid tour. You know, Casper. He's telling them, go on Fox. Do another interview on Fox. Do another interview on Fox.

And every single time, do it. Tell people, you know, results matter. You're going to trust us by the work we do. And we're going to not see any of the things. Okay. So you're telling me, Dan Bonino and Casper Teller low-grade morons. I think they're getting owned by people around them. Like, we've had people call from inside the meetings that they're sitting in, okay?

Executive meetings on the 7. on the floor the bureau. No, I know. You showed me. I'm telling you, there are guys that are sitting in there that have the absolute worst intention that want to see these guys isolated

and humiliated in public. That's what they want. And they laugh about it. Well, I mean, let's say it. A New York cop and then a Secret Service agent, I've been studying this for 40 years. I've been on here 31. And I was blessed enough to have family

that had been involved in a lot of real serious stuff. And they were telling me all of this one. I'm a kid growing up. So I guess I understand that Bongino clearly is just naive. Now, I mean... He just said on the last clip that we played coming into the hour, he said, you know, I was a federal agent for 11 years or whatever, you know, that's his time in the Secret Service. And it's like, great, okay, cool.

Secret Service doesn't, by and large, do investigative work. They're primarily an executive protection agency. That doesn't mean that he didn't collect evidence ever. I'm just saying credibility of... No, he's just been dumped at the highest levels of international shark tank. Correct. and he left the Secret Service in 2011. So the man has not been in government.

And like you said, they used like the how they do with president's constant crisis briefings to keep him off balance. I think that is exactly. What he talks about. Yeah, no, this is the thing. He said that he was getting meetings saying that there need to be FISA signed like at all hours. You keep people sleep defied. You keep them thinking that there's constant crisis and danger. If Dan Bongino actually believes that the FBI is constantly thwarting terrorist activity.

Yeah. They get them to buy into the hysteria, and that's how they control people. Nobody believes in the legend of the FBI more than the FBI. And FBI agents are told that from day one. So let me ask you this. We've covered this. You're dead on, but larger issue. Yeah, go bigger.

I'm not letting Trump out of this, okay? It's not about attacking Trump. I haven't turned on Trump. I'm very pragmatic. I understand history. And, you know, I've read hundreds of books on intelligence. All of it's fascinating. Clearly, I know their methodology.

This is the CIA comes and says, Mr. President, this was a network. It's a former project. You've killed it. And the Mossad's involved. This will bring down the whole system. We have to do it. It's been shut off and blah, blah, blah. That's bare minimum.

I believe the signs I've seen. Trump said no. Okay, fine. We'll now use this against them. But that's all the deep state is blackmail. But that's not going to be done through cash and Bondi, who I can see badly coordinated what they're doing during the headlights, that they're basically just placeholders. for Fox News and for PR.

And then it is the intelligence agencies that are not doing this. And they've come to Trump, who is sophisticated, and Trump has decided to use the Ring of Mordor. I mean, Kyle, I'm sure that's what this is. I can't refute it because I don't know. I have no evidence that says yes or no to any of those things, but it's not terrible analysis. It's certainly not like it's a possibility for sure.

And the Ring of Mordor, that's the danger that we keep seeing people do. They want to use the thing that cannot be used because they didn't capture that administrative state that we just talked about. All the people that are doing the briefings, all the people that are actually going to be the mechanisms that do that, they're not going to do it. I do agree with you that this has been a PR nightmare. I do agree that the people that are running this are getting left to hold the bags. Well, let me let's be clear. Kyle, Kyle, Kyle, awful. Even the most worshipful accounts of Trump, like cat turd are like, this is horrible.

Well, what are you going to do? They've been saying one thing, and this is the best part. Like, my buddy just goes through it. He just does, like, searches for this stuff. And he just sends them over to me. We have a group chat that is literally, it's all the MAGA influencer types. They all have to own themselves in the last three months because every single one of them got the same messaging. And that's maybe the thing that I thought was, this is why I knew we weren't going to get anything.

I actually got the advanced tip because I keep track of what Steve Bannon and Julie Kelly says. My fallout with Dan Bongino happened because of a woman named Julie Kelly, who's married to one of the top Democrat lobbyists in the state of Illinois. The craziest thing was is she said right up front. I'm not interested in Epstein. I don't care about what happened there. Everybody got away with it. The minute that happened, I was like, oh, you're just giving up the game here.

Sometimes people do actually tell us in advance what's going to happen. It just seems like the other influencers probably didn't have access to that information as quickly. You called it. We have the clip. I mean, you guys can see it for yourself. Remember, how long ago was it that they raided the Newark offices and got the 14 terabytes? Well, they didn't raid anything. Yeah.

So this was always sitting in the FBI. That was when Denny. I called a raid because they, He wouldn't give it up. I want to say that was in March. Oh, yeah, it was in mid-March. Yeah, so 30, 40 days on the job? You, and O'Boyle broke it all.

He said, no, my people are in New York. They let her know she'd be giving fake stuff. She's going to put a cover letter on. He broke it like a day and that before it was, you know. And then you said, yeah, no, it's been sent out to the FBI now a few weeks later. But then a few weeks later, we're talking on the phone and going, yeah, they're doing nothing. So you said, no, nothing's going to happen. So I'm going to ask again, why would they send it out?

If you're going to cover it up, you don't send it out. why do you say, oh, we've got it in press conferences, and then now say there's nothing. That is like, it's, it's, it's, that'd be like me. Nond, asinine. Yeah, and I agree with you. It'd be like me calling up a rental place saying, send me an industrial wood chipper, and I plug the son of a bitch in, and I climb in it. I mean, sorry, I'm just, I can't handle it.

It's, it's mind-blowing, except if you're constantly getting run around by other people. In the bubble. In the bubble. We call it bubble wrapping. I mean, that's actually the term. I've heard that term used by Chris Ray before. on conference. Well, you know, they call it the Pentagon

the White House. We're in the bubble. It means, you know, but it's a bubble. Sure. That was Dan Bongino's book about it too, actually. He wrote a whole book about being in there. I just, I need Trump to succeed. When God, you know, the Democrats get back in there. They're going to put me in prison for sure. So I'm in this paradox where I trump suit all this

other great stuff. And then there's this. This is the most dangerous thing. When people get, like, get upset with me for the way that I call it. First of all, it's not good for me. It's not good for you. We both shared that we've had subpoenas from these people. They've got... Oh, yeah, I don't like take... I want to beat the deep state. I'm not looking

for a fight. I just can't... I just can't lie. Right. So, imagine if you wanted to discredit somebody, what would be better than having them go out? Talk about 10,000 hours of files, talk about children being raped, and then immediately come back and say, no indictments, no list, no clients. No, I agree. I agree.

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who still hasn't gotten his job back from the Trump administration, though they all told him what a hero he was and he is. we're not here bitching, but we've got to have our integrity and just tell the truth. You were telling me during the break, I was like, hey, what's going on? Your phone's blowing up. You're saying your colleagues in the government, out of the government, they're just freaking out right now. Yeah, I mean, nobody would expect you to do a meltdown thing on this. At the end of the day, you're exactly right.

And like I said, I once said it yesterday. And I agree with it. Like, why would you even touch this? Just leave it alone. This is such low-hanging fruit. You can't go out and make all these claims. You can't go out there and spend four years or eight years on podcast and interviews. I had somebody say that the guys were like that Bongino and Patel were not campaigning,

but they were campaigning. One of them wanted to get a job. The other one was campaigning on behalf of Trump, which is a- So this is a massive campaign promise broken. The whole point was transparency, protect children. These are universal values that Americans hold. Like, even people who I don't agree with politically, if you think that kids are, you know, that this can happen to kids, or you're okay.

with wealthy people getting a different set of justice if they get to have a different court system or things. It means they're above the law and it means if you study history, it's going to get worse and we're all in danger. And then you ask, what else are they about to sell out on? It's just everything about it. Like I said, not talking about it would have been infinitely. When you learned this, how did you feel?

I guess you already knew it and said it was going to happen. I literally got, I don't get nauseous easily. I got nodges this morning. When I was shooting a video on it, I literally almost threw up. Because it's just, I need Trump to succeed. And, you know, it's bad. Yeah, it's horrible. It's a gut punch.

It's the same, look, I just expect this. I have such a negative, pessimistic thing. I am rarely let down. So this is kind of like, got it, okay? That's the worst case scenario. That's what I was. And you're being proven tonight because I know that. Nobody wants to be wrong.

But Tal and Bonino have attacked you to the Senate. The Senate said they're full of crap. So they behind the scenes turned on you and said you're not a good source. Yeah, no, they actually. So there's been, there's been some intel. leaks going on in the back end. We've got back channel folks that are paying attention to what's happening in D.C. And quietly it is being shopped around by the Bureau that guys like me and O'Boyle and Steve Friend and Marcus Allen that we were all like known. We had character issues. And look, we did.

I was talking to a, I was talking to a former FBI agent on the way down here before I pulled in. And he said, isn't it crazy what they make you jump through to become an FBI agent? And I know it's the case for other government jobs as well that are in similar positions of responsibility or, you know, You get similar kind of read-ins. And they make it really, really hard. They make you jump through all these hoops. I had a call on a Wednesday in 2016. In June of 2016, I had a call on a Wednesday, and they said,

can you be at Quantico to start your class on Sunday? We know we didn't give you any warning. We told you that you weren't going to be up for a class for three months. Can you drop everything and be here in three? It's all a test. Yeah, the answer is will you say yes when we'd ask you to say yes over and over again? And overwhelmingly, people do. And so the minute you start saying, yes, a lot of people just stay with it.

Then they realize how long they work to get there. Most of the people in my class that were going through the Academy of Quantico spent two years plus, maybe three or four, trying to become an FBI agent. By the time you get it, you're so happy to be there. Absolutely. It's all interesting, but I only get back to this. It's the same problem for a lot of these government jobs. I want to get back to this. This is an unmitigated disaster.

We need Trump's agenda to succeed. Right when everything's succeeding, they do something like this. and you know you talk about the Bondi and Patel and all of them but not just when they were out of government when they got into government six, seven months ago

saying all this and now doing a violent bat turn 180 this is so insane I mean again I could not cook up in my brain if I wanted to discredit the FBI and the Trump administration which I don't want to do I want to reform it and fix this stuff I could not come up with the more fabulous way

to be self-destructive So let's go to some of these. Let me grab one more to you because it just happened the other day. They just got the big beautiful bill passed, right? Which I'm not the biggest fan of, but like, so what? Like, it's not about me. There's a big tent. Other people like it.

Fine. One of the biggest pieces is $150 billion towards ICE and doing immigration enforcement, which is what I want. I'm not crazy about all the money we're going to be spending. And the day, what did he do? The first thing he does, he goes out and has a public appearance. And he says, we're also going to look for amnesty for people who have been here that are working in farms and working in hotels.

If you wanted to discredit something, you don't go and turn back on the thing where over 55, 56% of Americans have said, yeah, everybody that's here illegally is breaking a law and they should all go away. So the discrediting is not just happening on this one front. There's a couple of things, and I don't know who's writing that speech, but I know that when. Yeah, but I mean, Trump getting complained from his constituents about farm workers, I get it. Why would you even say that, even if you're going to do that, which you always said was going to do, by the way, they want to just clamp down first, get control and make it all be legal. they're written a process, but I get that. That isn't even on the same scale as we got 14 terabytes of Epstein, hundreds of kids getting raped, and it's all coming out,

and you watch and just shut up, it'll take time, but it's going to happen. I'll play the clips in a moment. And then, nope, none of that's true. I mean, that is just like... But those are two exact examples of... That's like, this jacket, Kyle is white. Right. And you're like, no, it's Navy Blue.

Like, no, it's not. This is white. Okay? And you're going to do a press release about it. And I got full locks of hair. You're like, no, you're bald. No, I don't. And I don't.

I'm cleave-shave it. I don't have a beard. Right. You're like, denying actual reality. But the commonality between those two things is those are both layups when the American people overwhelmingly want to protect children. Like, there's not a regular person out there in the world that's like, oh, no, no, no, I want rich to have special justice.

I want children to be abused. And at this point, even CNN is reporting like over half of Americans want to see people who are here illegally deported. You don't go back on things where you are in the majority and you have the, the high ground. And so seeing this, yeah, it's a lot more emotional because we're talking about children. We're talking about real evil, objectively horrible things. And then, yeah, they set this up for like a nose dive. And I don't see a rational reason for it unless people are setting these people up to have them look terrible. That's your theory. And I think the bubble's all true. And I agree.

And you see the psychology in Bonzino. God, I'm working eight hours a damn exhaustic. Come on trying my best. That's all true. You're right about that. But let's just cut to the chase. My instincts are rarely wrong and I've got all the pieces. We take 10 hours going to do it all. No, the CIA came and said, yeah, this was our operation with the Mossad. This will bring down the government, but we can use this now on the bad guys for control and it's your call. Trump made this order.

That also means that there's a new Fsteen. Absolutely. Yeah, and I think that's the bigger piece that people are not necessarily talking about. Who's the new person that's taken into that space? Who's the new person that got co-opted in and says now you're the guy that's going to start. Well, there's always been a bunch of them. So let's go to some of these clips here. Here is

just on the record. Everybody's seen these, but I want to get them out. We're all talking about them. Here's clip five. Flashback to March, Pam Bondi on Fox saying the list was on her desk. And then I want to skip ahead to her and her press conference in March saying, oh, yeah, we have the, you know, we have, I've seen the videos, we're going to release it. Go ahead and roll those. and then also play 12 and 15.

Elena Haba, the U.S. attorney in New Jersey, one of the U.S. attorneys, one of the two. Here she is saying, hey, it's coming out. Don't you worry. Just play these clips here at us. I saw your appearance at CPAC with Ben and with Ted Cruz. And one of the things that you alluded to, and this is something Donald Trump has talked about,

The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies. So have you seen anything there?

You said, oh my gosh? Not yet. Okay. Well, we'll check back with you. said last week that you have the Epstein files on your desk is when can we see them and what's taking so long to release them? I do. Jesse, there are well over, this will make you sick, 200 victims, 200. So we have, well over, over 250, actually. So we have to make sure that their identity is protected and their personal information. But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know, the personal information, you know, the personal information, of victims. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now, you're going to

see some Epstein information being released by my office. What kind? Are we going to see who was on the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from what he recorded? Because he had all of his homes wired with recording devices. What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow is a lot of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot of information. It's pretty sick what that man did. Okay. Well, we'll look for that. Absolutely.

And he had help. That's for sure. He sure did. No, no. The FBI, they're reviewing. They still have to learn from you. No, no. The FBI, they're reviewing there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn.

And there are hundreds of victims. and no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out. Let's just stop there, and we've got more clips coming. Kyle, you've got to come back later this week for like two hours. We can do a commercial free to podcast and an air on the main show,

but I don't want to be not interrupted, a good total deep dive here. But again, she comes off there as if she has no idea what's going to. on to do that and put that out and then now stand by while this is totally one-80ed and totally reversed has just more than more than the trump admin if trump doesn't course correct which i'm going to talk about in a moment we haven't heard from him yet so there's time to shift this i think i don't think it's going to happen this is obviously from the top they've now opened it up to make the epstein operation trumps and to make it trump and to make it Trump covering it up, and even though it'll never come out, they'll still use that by them doing this.

And this is going to create a huge scandal I now predicting Congress for the Democrats with her statements about the videos and kids being raped in hundreds of victims. And now they're saying it's not existing, but we know it does. You talk to the FBI people that, you know, the files are there. This, they have been, it goes back to what you said. They're being set up with the deep state. This is insane. Yeah. And listen, listen to the way that Bondi even answered those questions.

I don't know a lot about Pam Bondi. I didn't live in Florida when she was the AG. My dad did, and he didn't have like a stellar high opinion of her, but I don't think he thought she was a bad actress per se. But you listen to her asked those questions. She looks like she's flat-footed, and she's reaching into memory from not personal experience. She didn't go and look at this stuff,

nor would I expect the Attorney General to go look at individual evidence. I would. If I was the Attorney General, the biggest case ever, I'd be able to. But you care. We're talking about people that are there, that are holding the place for politics, that she goes out and says the right thing. She does Fox interviews and stuff.

stuff like that. Generally speaking, the AG sets policy and doesn't need to run the mechanics of the DOJ. That's what the DAG does. That's what the deputy attorney general's job is anyway. In the same way that it works in the FBI, the deputy runs things. So you've got this person out there, and she's answering very specific questions that sounds like not from personal experience by looking at her. She's just kind of reaching in and she's trying to remember what she was told, so she's kind of making it up because it sounds good. But as you said on your show the other day, that should have been a standalone press conference. That's a bombshell to drop. out and say, and she did it in this, like, gaggle outside on the lawn.

So that's not... As an aside. Yeah, like, someone asked a question, and she was like, oh, let me just give you this, like, crazy novel information and drop all this intel on you. That's not how you give stuff that. Well, that's because she knew. We've confirmed that O'Keefe had gotten the undercover video, was about to release it. So that had broken three days before, because I put it out.

O'Keefe wasn't clear. He said, yeah, I'm in danger, blah, blah. It's, it's, you know, the administration, and I called people in the administration. They said, it's Bondi, so they already knew. And then she did that. That's clear response trying to get ahead of it. Yeah, I agree. She was getting ahead of it.

All of that is to say that we're talking about someone there that just... And here's the undercover... I agree, out of her death. Here's the undercover video, clip 12. Do you know when the Epstein files are going to get released? We hope soon. Okay. So...

Any dates? No, you know what it is? We should talk about it. Yeah. And it's all with little pins. So they have to go through everyone. Yeah, you want to get to Axios, which you know is a CIA mouthpiece. I haven't even heard we're about to say, but that means the mouth of the system here in a minute.

But here's Elena Haba, the U.S. attorney, and she's gotten really, I like her, per shnickety. Don't you worry, we've got it, and there's hundreds of victims, and we're on it, and we're processing the cases. So you've got them saying, we're processing it, it's true, we've got it, you confirmed have been sent out to the different districts, and then now none of it exists. I mean, this is a scandal upon scandal. Here it is. But in this case, in Epstein's case, it is incredibly disturbing. We have flight logs. We have information, names that will come out.

Is it going to be shocking? I don't see how it's not shocking, that there were so many individuals that were hidden and kept secret and not been held accountable. Let's talk about the reverse. in accountability. So you have to now go through your process. Now, I won't say they're guilty until they go through their time in court. But again, now it's time for accountability.

We have seen for so many years, Pierce in this country, many investigations, subpoenas, testimonies, and Congress, etc., etc. But there's a general frustration with accountability. We take it halfway. We don't take it home. And I really believe that now with Cash and Pam, there will be accountability.

And then since this, she's come out and said, people are mad at us, I'm investigating it, I've seen it, I'm getting them. Will you imagine her now in front of Congress? If the Democrats get back in a year and a half, I mean, they're going to be front and center. Okay, what did you see? I mean, this is a disaster. It's, yeah, unmitigated. And how much hay was made on Fox and other, like, conservative-leaning outlets talking

about this very thing. I watched a Jesse Waters clip that I played this morning on my own podcast, and he was talking about the connections from Obama's, you know, CIA director or former deputy to state and then went into Biden and was working. Like, these people were all connected. We're hearing about, she just said, a bunch of shadowy figures, tons of money, tons of power, tons of connections. Everyone should be shocked when they find out about it. We're going to find out that there are, what is it again? Oh, yeah, no prosecutions.

There's no client list. They weren't able to decide if there was anybody involved. I got faith in Cash Patel. I want to find the clip. It's such an ugly setup to knock these people down. I do want to hammer into the Axios thing, though, because I do think that's relevant. Go ahead. Alex, they didn't take this.

So you have to understand the backstory here. When Cash was trying to get into the position of director, when he was working through the confirmation process, one of the things he was most worried about was people that he could trust. So he was talking to me about people that I knew in the Bureau. I said, look, the people I trust in the Bureau are GS-13s. They're frontline agents that work criminal cases that don't care about intel. They're not interested in doing politics. Those are the people that do the work of the FBI. So I don't have a problem with those.

I would recommend them to you all day long. But they don't necessarily know what the shenanigans are that are going on in the senior management. And he said, you know, I'm really worried about leaks. I'm worried about people that can be trusted. I worried about people that are on the team. And the guy that I recommended that he hire for deputy director, who he ended up ghosting, which was not a great move. That guy explained to cash that leaks to the press are a tool of the FBI director. And people need to understand this.

They happened under Comey. They happened under Ray. Of course. It happened under McCabe. You choose the outlet you go to and you give them exclusive access. And you're also choosing the audience that's going to receive it. and you're going to choose the audience that's going to hate what they got. And then Comey lied to Congress, said, I never leaked.

Well, he goes letters. Well, I gave it to the head of this. A friend who gave it to a friend that made it happen. Look, leaks are a tool of the director. They have the discretion to declassify things and to hand things out. Whether they do it through official channels or otherwise, it is within their job description to do so. They can't lie to Congress about it,

but they can do all kinds of shady stuff handing and disseminating information. When you give something to Axios today, when there's a quote-unquote conservative majority and the people that it's our team is in the FBI. What you're saying is you want not Fox News to trumpet it. Fox News was out there doing what you just saw. They were talking to Alina Haba and they were talking about how bad this was. Now you've got the other side, the left is it.

So it looks like there's a subversive element within the FBI that's leaking it and it's doing it to discredit what's ever happening. The fun thing is you've got all the MAGA influencers. You've got all the people on the right that are going to attack and say, well, that must be fake news because it's Axios and ABC that are. Oh, yeah. And that was the talking point. And that was the talking point I saw this morning.

when I got up. That is what the, what the, it was, it was, oh, Elon Musk and the left are running this. Correct.

But now, but now, because first it comes from Axios, but then an hour later, no, it's actually the DOJ official. Correct.

But still it gives them the cover to say, the original story still holds, it came out of Arcio, so obviously this was a push. What you haven't seen is some agency on the right come out,

and I haven't seen like a press conference or anyone come out and talk about it. They're hoping this fizzled out under its own weight, is my guess. But as you said, it's catastrophically stupid,

and it's the worst possible outcome that you're going to say there's a paragraph in that that memo release that says there'll be no prosecutions, no additional co-conspirators, there was no blackmail operation after literally years of the people who are running those organizations talking about those. Yeah, I mean, it's such a, again, a person with an AD IQ would know just shut up if you're going to cover it up. So, again, only thing that makes sense is they made a deal of the deep state to roll over. They won't prosecute, but they'll stop trying to kill Trump. but they went, okay, well, fine. We want this cut and dry. I want you to come out and say it's over. A deal was made.

I think that's the only logical thing here. And then obviously, Mattel and Bongino and Bondi are just placeholders, like you said. And Trump's made a deal with the deep state. Now, here's my question. Now let's see if Trump will actually stop what the globalists are doing. Well, take that further. What happens to the three that are heading those agencies that now just have the most egg on their face? What happens?

You predicted to me? privately. I don't know if you want to say it now, that they're all being set up to hung up up and drive very soon. Perhaps. I don't know anybody that can look at it and say these guys are... Well, you did tell me that about three. Yeah, I said that. I said, I don't want to give what you want to say. That's true. That's true. I think, I think Bongino's gone by the end of the year. I think that's a, I think that was true before this. Well, you think other things, too.

I think that Patel doesn't make it past midterms if they decide to switch over. But I also see that Patel is actually kind of useful. He's actually kind of fitting into the role of FBI director, which is a guy that flies around on a jet and defends the FBI vigorously. doesn't do anything in particular that we're hoping he does. And it takes credit for things the FBI always does. And gets them a new building. By the way, they're moving to the Reagan building. I don't know if people saw that.

You guys probably covered this the other day. That's not what we said. The whole idea was to decentralize it out of D.C. Not going to go move into a bigger building down the street that puts you in the exact same problem. The reason that D.C. is problematic to have the FBI, the DOJ, and Washington Field Office in the same area is because FBI senior officials start,

they need a certain amount of time in the field as a manager. then they need a certain amount of time at headquarters as a program manager. Then they need some time back as a more senior manager. Then they need a more senior program. And they bounce back and forth. They don't even have to move, Alex. They can live in the outside of D.C. They live in Alexandria.

A lot of them do. And they can get them in the cult. They spend 12 years there. So we're almost out of time here. We're five minutes where Roger Stone comes on after the break. But again, I got so much other big news. Fourth hour, I'll get into all the things we haven't covered. Like the head of Dayton saying World War III can begin any day.

I mean, this is just just just not. But this is about the heart and soul of America and Trump, and I am a very decisive person. Everything to me is very clear cut of what the best information is. The right thing to do is what I do. It's a very freeing thing in my life. That said, Trump is doing so much good, and I know the globalist hating, and I've seen real action against a lot of evil, that I don't ever in my life been this mentally pulled trying to find out what the right. position and action is other than just, I'm just saying what I'm thinking here, just open book, kind of wargaming?

Because, Kyle, I don't know. I mean, I've reached my limit at this point. There's two really, really dangerous animals that exist in our federal government's dollars and going into those establishment. One is our military industrial complex. There's unbelievable amounts of money that are insane, you know, that can make people move mountains to do. And they're super dangerous. And they come after your family. And you've got people like Hague Seth that seem to have that idea.

You've got people that are like Tulsi Gabbard that understand what it is, what goes on, and they seem to be making some headway, although they are obviously going to face resistance. But the other animal that's really dangerous, I call it the information industrial complex. But that is your intelligence agencies and the private agencies that are out there, whether it be your big tech and others that are dealing in info. Those groups are the second or the most dangerous, take your pick. Well, yeah, everybody thinks of a fancy CIA agent is powerful. No, it's the contractors.

It's the big tech. It's, there's a Palantir all day. Yeah, it's the new kill on the block. Okay, I'm not defending it. It's not the big Taranosaurus here. They're not the biggest. It's a Velociraptor. That your intel agencies can only do certain things,

that your law enforcement entities can only do some things as limited. I'll stay there. Let's see five more minutes on that. I want you to finish up. You back. But again, my whole thing about the media is attacking Palantir because it's trying to get in the key position. I'm not saying it's good. I'm saying what the fight is.

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All right, so I need Trump to succeed. At the same time, I can't go along with evil, and I just can't do it. in closing here, final comments, but I just want to say that if Trump didn't give these orders, which I've speculated, I believe he did, and that they've made a deal behind the scenes or whatever,

because they believe this information is too damaging to destroy the country or whatever. And I see that argument. I'm endorsing it. If he hasn't done this while we've had Bondi and Patel and all them, were really cash, hyping this up for months and now putting out this ridiculous report that 180s was already on record, and it makes the Trump administration complicit in the CIA Mossad-Evstein operation.

If Trump doesn't come out and say this is wrong or reverse this, then he is complicit. And I'm just processing what I'm going to have to do. You've got three and a half minutes. Go ahead. information brokers, that's going to be your, you know, your big tech companies. People think that Pallantir, you mentioned that earlier, is going to be the big danger. I mean, consider this. Like most of the government is housed using Microsoft software.

Almost all of it is done on Amazon web servers. That's Bezos. We're talking about you. And let's just go, your cover of Pallanter. No, I'm not. There's a thousand-pound gorilla and a 20-pound monkey. I'm going to tell you the gorilla. The gorilla is significantly more scary.

And the people that have all the information on you, the Googles, the alphabets, the metas, etc. Like they've got so much, it's not even funny. The things that they can, they are the wet dream of what the intel community wishes they could gather on the American people for whatever it's worth. All the collections that are going on out there in the, you know, on the intel services,

they could just buy it the same way that anybody who has the money can buy it from these private groups. Well, that's just like Dinesh D'Souza. It's a good thing we did, but it shows up. He goes and spends $100,000 in key cities in Pennsylvania and shows the Democrats with the safe houses, with the mules delivering the big balance. And remember,

He was lampooned as being unscientific and all of his methodology was terrible and it didn't make any sense. And then turned around and they used the exact same geoffence capabilities with a slightly different, more sophistication in warrants. And they went and got J-Sixers. So all of this stuff is the same animal. And we know that 90-something percent of people at AOC Bernie rallies are the same people because of it. No, it's total science. Yeah, it's not negotiable. Like, people can, they can literally tell who you are, what level of education you have, how tall you are, how fast you walk,

whether or not you have an injury, left-handed or right-handed, eye dominance, you name it. All of these things can be, they can find out from the way that you hold your phone, the way you use your phone, and you carry it with you everywhere. I do the same thing, so I'm no better. I do carry a little, like a holiday bag with me because I throw it in there. But at the end of the day, yeah, you're tracking yourself, you're giving this information away. If you do not de-weaponize the agencies that are using that data, the agencies that are interested in pursuing their own agenda, and they'll set up anybody who's at the top, it doesn't matter.

You give them a private chat. You give them a security detail. You let them live fancy, and they feel like they're, you know, big shots. And you fluff their ego. You do that kind of thing? Those guys fall in line. And they throw a super ultra-gorgeous women at you. Do you know what the first thing that happened when Cash Patel moved into his office,

per the CNN story that he redecorated. This is a guy that already announced that they were going to get a new building in under four months and they're already moving out of it. He redecorated the building. So he wanted a new carpet. He wanted new wall hangings, et cetera, et cetera. These people... That doesn't...

I mean, if I was in there, I'd be sleeping on the floor like Elon. I would be not worried about the drapes. But that's nothing. This shows what Elon learned about a few months ago, and I think adds credibility to him. I agree. I think, whoa, I'm not part of this. I'm not into a lot of the things that Elon's into.

I don't like Nerolink or any of the things like that. I don't think that we shame the certain values as a Christian that he has as whatever. I agree. But I think his principles seem pretty convincing. It's like, okay, he wants to see a lack of government waste. He wanted to see some success. That didn't happen. If Trump doesn't de-weaponize our DOJ and, by extension,

the two agencies that work there that are most dangerous. If he doesn't de-weaponize our FBI, we're screwed with that. I mean, that's the thing. I totally look at Kyle, as you learn more, come back tomorrow or the next day. You pick the time. Roger Stone's coming up.

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Probably a communist or an antifa. I'm telling you, man, this is going to be bad. So we've got that information. We're texting with Roger Stone. He's getting connected right now. We'll be going to him in a moment. I'm rarely wrong. and it, you know, it takes me a lot of data to be able to come to these conclusions.

And again, we've already covered a lot of it. It would take days to go over it all. It would take days from you just to remember it all. But that's what knowledge is. You're having it. I believe in Trump. I love Trump. I understand what Trump's doing.

I don't agree with it completely. I talked to Roger before the election. And he said, it's the CIA. It's beside. We all know that. They're going to come to Trump and say it's going to bring down the federal government. You can't release this information. when Trump's saying I'm going to release it.

Then he has Bonnie and all them saying, okay, we got it, we rated it, we got it, we're going to release it, and then now they do it 180. You don't do a PR disaster like that unless that was part of a deal with the deep state of they roll over to make sure that Trump would never use it against them to say it's over, it's put away, it's done. That means the king of England and the deal with the most powerful empire still in the world financially is those people. and that means getting all these other groups on board. And if Trump brought out all this child rape and the 14 terabytes of kids getting raped and the hundreds of victims, it would demonize America worldwide, actually elites.

I believe justice be done though the heavens fall. So that's easier for me because I just do what I believe is right, but the Holy Spirit tells me he's right, and I do it. And that's why they want me off the air because they know, this guy's a loose cannon, he will, he will no matter, put a gun to my head. I'm not going to tell a lie. I'm not going to,

it's because I love the truth. Now, have I lied about fooling around? Yeah, I mean, stuff like that. But I don't lie on big issues that actually matter, that affect other people. The left door was like, Jones is a hypocrite.

He admits to pay for probably 10, abortions, but he's against it. No, when I was younger and didn't know, and I really believed it was a blob of tissue, I haven't paid for an abortion since I was 18 years old. I tell the story to say, I've done bad things because I'm going to be truthful. And it's an example to you that you can reprove yourself, and you can come back from hell as well, to the blood of Christ. So I love Trump. Evil hates him. They're coming after him. He's doing so much good. But I woke up at 6 a.m. someone's been like 10 last night, and I guess it's broken about 10 o'clock. Central, and I read this DOJ letter about he didn't commit suicide.

Here's a video of outside the wing of showing cops, jail guards walk around, and there is no blackmail, and there is no client list, and there is nothing else. When we have the attorney general in them saying, we got 14 terabytes and hundreds of kids getting raped, and you've got the U.S. attorney saying, we've got it, we've seen it. We're going to go after him. And Kyle Serraffin, the FBI tells us four months ago, yeah, I've confirmed the FBI. they sent the 14 terabytes out to the field offices. I'm like, good God, you don't do that unless you're going to do it.

Unless Trump loaded the gun, cocked it, put it to their head and said, you roll over deep state, you see I'm ready to do this. I don't know that, but that's what it looks like to me. And, oh my God, now the recently released Epstein security footage is missing a full minute. Oh, they're setting up, Trump. They're setting up. It's insiders. Oh, sir, look, we have the same. video, you know, eight hours of it, or 12 hours of it, and, you know, all this other stuff.

And, oh, it's all there. No one went into the door to do it. And then there's a minute missing. Oh, my God. I mean, again, PR disaster a few months ago with Cash Patel and Bongino went on Fox, like deer in the headlights, like they were, had guns to their head, like they were hostages in North Korea or Vietnam, fighter pilot shot down. Were they blinking with Morse code?

and then they go on a tour on Joe Rogan. Other shows, oh, if there was any video or any files, I'd give it to you, Joe Rogan. If you're going to politically, because of the CIA and, okay, it's national security, it's too dangerous, we're going to stop the pedophilia, stop the honeypot networks. I could hear that argument.

I'd still say I think it's the wrong moral thing to do, but it's so dangerous bringing out. I could kind of go, okay, yeah. But no, instead, you go on a blow your feet off with shotgun tour, So the big question is, is Trump involved in this? Is he going to come speak out? What he said, released this stuff for years? We know he's never been connected to it by all the evidence.

And now we've got, as I said, this is going to become a firestorm. We'll get to this in a few minutes. Roger Stone's here with us very graciously, and I appreciate it, Stonezone.com, long-term Trump confidant. We now have the press secretary being grilled about it. Yeah, you got U.S. attorneys, the Attorney General, all over TV saying, we've got 14 terabytes of kids being raped, hundreds of new victims. And then you say, now there's nothing.

You've just given the Democrats the ultimate weapon. You go, oh, well, they're implicated more than Republicans. No, no, they'll never bring it all out, but they're now going to use it to say that Trump is covering up, and his DOJ is, how they maneuvered them into this disaster. I'm predicting. Roger Stone called me with the grabbing by the pussy video or audio. obvious locker room joking everybody knows all the women want Trump he's never been accused of anything until he ran for office and I said roger relaxed he knew it was BS I said call everybody relax Trump's fine this is this is not important and I was right I almost vomited this morning when I had about two hours think about this I didn't talk for hours before I said anything I didn't make phone calls I wouldn't lock myself in my office and I sat there and just thought this is a disaster And I don't say that to make it a bigger disaster.

It is. Trump has to come out soon and say that no, he wants it released because you can't tee this up. Well, we got 14 terabytes and hundreds of kids getting raped. Or he's got to throw them under the bus and say they were wrong. Roger, I'm going to shut up, but I need Trump to succeed. He's doing a great job. You and I are going to be put in federal prison if we don't succeed. This is life and death for us.

I need, this guy's like a life raft in the North Atlantic with 40 below, below zero water. We fall in that, we're dead. So I am in a paradoxical hell right now. Stone.com. Roger Stone, God bless you, brother. You need an introduction. I'm ranting. Thank you.

What do you have to say? You know, Alex, back in 2015, I think I'm the first American author to write extensively about the Epstein case. In my book of the Clinton's War on Women, it's the longest chapter. I had his little black book. And by the way, not everybody in his phone book was one of his clients, shall we say. I also had the FAA manifest in terms of who visited the island. And I read every single word of the lawsuit by Virginia Jafre. I think she was then Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's victims who refused a $30 million settlement

and he continued to fight Epstein in court. Also conferred extensively with her attorney. And who magically just died. She said Trump was never involved, never saw him. Correct. The one time he was on the only Epstein property he was at in Palm Beach once for a charitable event. She was present. She said she saw no inappropriate activity on his part.

And then beyond that, her husband, she said, and a lawyer said he was the only pay a public figure who actually tried to help her in her case. So we know that Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, a Democrat, wasn't going to the island for the weather. We know that Bill Richardson, the former Democrat governor of New Mexico, wasn't going to the island for the weather. We know that Bill Clinton was not visiting the island 17 times for the weather. If you read any of the transcripts from the Florida trial and the Florida indictment, there is no question that Epstein was involved in child sex trafficking. Now, I honestly believe that, first of all, I like and respect Cash Patel, and he's telling you the truth.

They don't have any proof because Christopher Ray and the previous administration destroyed all the truth. We know, because we can see with our eyes, that they removed hard drives and DVDs from Epstein's apartment in New York, from his island, from his ranch in New Mexico, from his apartment in Paris. And the question is a simple one. I never thought there was a list per se, but I think a list could have been compiled on the basis of those videos contained in the DVDs and the hard drives. So what happened to them? When Cash Patel says we don't have them, he's telling the truth because they were destroyed by the previous administration. That is my view. Well, I mean, we know they would have used him with Epstein against Trump.

Previously, we have all the fake Jane Does and the E. Jean Carrolls and the fake actresses, you know, putting out videos that were confirmed to be fake. I know that. And Trump wasn't peed on by hookers in, you know, Moscow or, say, Petersburg. We know all that. I totally agree. My point is why would Pam Bondi say we got 14 terabytes and hundreds of new victims and put all that

out and you've also got the U.S. attorney and a bunch of others coming out and saying they've seen it's coming out? Why would they do all that and then now say, oh, actually there's nothing? And I get it. There's not an official. Here's my client list. He was talking to restaurants

and lawnmowers and pool people and politicians and business. Obviously, obviously most people that he's got numbers of aren't that. That's clear. The point is, is that why would they come out and say we've got all this, we're going after them, they're going to be prosecuted, and then now 180, so fast.

That is a question that I think Kim Bondi has to answer. In other words, we have a discrepancy. I believe Cash Patel, when he says we don't have anything, that's because it was destroyed. And as far as Epstein killing himself, Michael Baden, the New York City Medical Examiner, probably the single most respected pathologist in the country, inspected Epstein's body and said that the wounds, that the broken bones in his neck were completely inconsistent with him hanging himself.

He also pointed out that he has conducted autopsies in a thousand hanging cases. We also know that David Shone, the criminal defense lawyer, was retained by Epstein, and they agreed to a very sizable retainer on the Thursday before the Saturday that he allegedly killed himself. So who hires a new lawyer to head his criminal defense and then kills himself two days later? And we're supposed to believe the video cameras just happen to be malfunctioning. The two guards that were supposed to be monitoring just happened to fall asleep. Sorry, it's just not credible. And that leads me to this. That leads me to this.

Why have cash a few months ago with Bonjino, both great men, go on Fox, look like you're in the headlines, like their political prisoners, like their hostages, and say, oh, crooksacted alone, open and shut. And Epstein killed himself. I'm going to show you footage of a cell or the cell bag, but we're going to show you footage of the door entering it. And now when they release it, they leave a minute out, which I don't think Patel or. Bonjino did, whoever did that is setting them up. This was a trap to hang Epstein and all this around Trump and his administration. This is what Carl Server predicted last hour before this even came out. Roger Stone, what the hell do you make of that?

Who edited that tape? Who gave them this thing, saying this is it? And then now that is, this is a setup. I'm telling you. Well, let me posit a theory here, which is, is quite simply that Epstein was an equal opportunity blackmailer. There is no question that Alex Acosta, the U.S. attorney, who gave Epstein a pass on his Florida case when he was appointed Secretary of Labor under Trump in the first term, and he was in preparation for his confirmation

hearings, he was asked, what are you going to say if they asked you about why you gave Epstein a slap on the risk. He said, I'm going to tell the truth. He was a CIA asset. That's what I was told to say. So I believe that the pressure from the British royal family, from a number of our other allies, perhaps Israel, perhaps, the Saudis, who knows? The point is Epstein was doing dirty work, was collecting blackmail for many, many entities. This was his business. It's how he rose from obscurity being a math teacher at a private school. You told me this before the election. You told me this before the election.

I agree with you. I call it this morning. We had a very short conversation. You come on. I said, let me guess. They've come to Trump and said national security, CIA and Assad. We got to kill this. And somehow that's patriculated down into this.

So where do you see this going? I mean, do you agree with me that this is, I mean, whoever gave them the video with a minute cut out at the D.C., I mean, at the New York jail, the president. I mean, this looks like a setup, Roger. Well, and I've watched that. video, I'm still not sure what it proves, even with the minute cut out of it. It doesn't seem to prove anything to me. That doesn't show he wasn't killed, doesn't even show the cell block.

It doesn't even show the wing. It just, it defies credibility. Just like the question of Virginia Jafray, who only weeks ago we were told committed suicide. Alex, I interviewed her for hours. I read her testimony. I followed her, like her father, I don't believe she told herself. I just don't believe that. So I think we have a massive cover-up here, and I think it is due to pressure from a number of our allies because Epstein was blackmailing some very, very powerful, important people. That is my theory. In all honesty, while all of this is very, very interesting, this past week, CIA director dropped a bombshell

in which he absolutely proves that the Russian collusion hoax was exactly that, cooked up by John Brennan, and James Comey, the FBI. In fact, Roger, let's do that. Let's do that. We've got to break in six minutes, because I actually have it all right here, the CIA report that we all live,

that we all know is true. We don't just believe the report. We know it's true that it was run by Brennan and Obama, absolutely as we knew. Now with all the footnotes, we had a few months ago, Tulsi Gabbard, Director of National Intelligence,

released report, with a lot of the similar information. This is a huge deal. You're right. That's what's so sad about this, is this overshadowing all the incredible information that's coming out.

Allison, there's a lot more coming. Chairman Crawford of the House Committee has a bombshell report, I'm told. It goes much, much, much further than what Ratcliffe has released this week. Okay, stay there. I want to come back and spend time with you on that. Give me the floor

because we're both the targets of this, you'd be even more than I. But just finishing up with this then, I know we need time to think about this, but we don't know all the facts yet, but you couldn't get Patel and Bongino to more contradict what they'd already said and what the AG had said than this

and just say, that's it, go away. If you wanted to create a firestorm, this is what you would do. So approximating this, I don't know if you probably would talk to Trump since it's broke yesterday last night. What do you think Trump needs to do? Well, I think he needs to call on Pam Bondi

to clear the air. She's the one who seems to be out of sync. She clearly said it stuff's on my desk. It's unbelievable. We're reviewing it. I see a pattern here, Alex. Don't you notice how Damian Williams, Biden's U.S. attorney in New York, he presided over

Epstein's murder. Said nothing went wrong. She's Lane Maxwell, how do you engage in a conspiracy, but you know you don't identify any of the other conspirators, nor do you call them as witnesses at her trial? And now the same thing happens with Diddy. We rely totally on Diddy's ex-girlfriend as opposed to many of the other potential witnesses who could I think have nailed Diddy on the more serious charges. It's the same pattern. In every case, whether it's Epstein, whether it's Maxwell,

on behalf of Epstein or whether it's steady, they were catering to very, very powerful people. And those people have arranged through pressure to ensure that the secret dies with those three. Well, I know that Trump has said release it all, and there's never been any of it. I don't, I know you don't want to surmise what Trump's going to do, but this is already having big blowback.

We've got some clips all playing a moment of, the press secretary responding to questions. People want this information, Roger. What do you think Trump should do? Look, I think he's going to ask, you should order everybody to go back to the beginning and determine exactly what they have or what was booked in.

But my guess is we now know, we found this out weeks ago, a lot of the key Russian collusion documents were hidden in a secret file that the average FBI executive could never even access. So I suspect that what we're looking for, I believe cash, what we're looking for doesn't exist. Doesn't mean it didn't exist.

It did exist. But overshattering all of this, Alex, is not only these bombshells regarding the Russian collusion hoax, but we now finally have the U.S. government admitting they were coaching Lee Harvey Oswald. That broke this week, thanks only. to the persistence of Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna, and they've now finally forced the CIA to release the files and admit that they were well aware of Oswald, and they were coaching him on that scene in New Orleans,

which they tried to position him as a communist. These are two huge breaking stories. By the way, I've got that here as well. I've got that here as well. So let's come back and talk about what they're distracting us from right now. And I agree with you. It's known. The FBI grabbed all the stuff under the Democrats, under Obama,

out of Little St. John's Island, the Caribbean, out of New York, out of Zorro Ranch, out of Florida. So that's true. Again, like you said, Bondi needs you to respond. And the U.S. attorneys that say they've seen it all and say, okay, you got hundreds of new victims, all this stuff. What do you mean there's no list? What do you mean there's no nothing? again, this is totally and completely insane. But Roger, your book, The Clinton's War on Women is more important than ever.

People can go to Epsteintruthbook.com and get the Clinton's War on Women. You literally called this first, my friend. Tell us about that. This is the longest chapter in the book, and I exposed almost all of this. So I don't know how Pam Bondi could not know the background here. there's a lot of questions that need to be answered. Let's hit it on the other side. All right, stonezone.com.

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14 terabytes, the kids getting raped. and now we're told there's nothing there's nothing happening. We have the information that came out last week that unfortunately has not gotten a lot of coverage that deals with the director of the CIA releasing a report with all the footnotes and documents of what you and I said back in 2017, stay behind networks of Obama, ran in the CIA, creating the fake dossier, creating the fake dossier, creating the impeachment, literally in a coup against America, such a massive development right there. And then General Flynn's saying, that's it.

We've got to have indictments. We've got to have arrests. And then on top of that, you've got the Senate and Grassley putting out the report cut and dry of the communist Chinese, just like we heard back at the time four and a half years ago, flying in airplanes with ballots only marked for Joe Biden for key battle around. and then the CIA and FBI covering that up and working with them to still the election. I mean, it doesn't get more bombshell than that. Rodgers Stone, let's go over it.

Well, Alex, one final point out, Epstein. Since he was indicted and incarcerated in New York for child sex trafficking, what information was given to the grand jury in New York that indicted him? How can we now say we have no evidence he was involved in child sex trafficking? They indicted him on the basis of something. How is Guzzly Maxwell in jail for sex trafficking, but it didn't exist? Well, not only that, but she's charged. One of the charges she was convicted of is conspiracy.

Okay. Who are the other conspirators? How come they weren't charged? Again, and you saw it again in the Diddy case. And since we're finishing up on that, I meant to get to this. Just playing back to back. Here's Leibbitt, the press secretary, back to back being asked about this. We'll finish up on that and move on to the big scandals.

They don't want you to know about here it is. What happened? Caroline, the DOJNFBI has now concluded there was no Jeffrey Epstein client list. What do you tell MAGIS supporters who say they want anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes to be held accountable? This administration wants anyone who has ever committed a crime to be held accountable. And I would argue this administration has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly the previous administration. And the Trump administration is committed to truth and to transparency. That's why the Attorney General and the FBI director pledged at the president's direction to do an exhaustive review of all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and his death.

And they put out a memo in conclusion of that review. There was material they did not release because, frankly, it was incredibly graphic and it contained child pornography, which is not something that's appropriate for public consumption. but they committed to an exhaustive investigation. That's what they did, and they provided the results of that. That's transparency. I'll know. Okay, so the FBI looks at the circumstances surrounding the debt of Jeffrey Epstein.

According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list. So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said she had on her desk? Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network, on Fox News. I've got a quote. John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review. Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that. But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than.

than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars. I mean, I'm just special to this point of finishing up on this giant topic and then we'll shift into the other issues. I mean, look, I think Pam Bondi is the one who has to answer that question. She also, I think ultimately has to decide on whether we're going to indict John Brennan, the CIA director, who clearly orchestrated and pushed for the inclusion of the foes. Yeah, so let's start over there. I want to give you the floor, because you were one of the main targets,

along with General Flynn, I was a secondary, but nothing like you. For people that know, start up at the beginning. You and I first reported in 2017 that the CIA and stay behind networks were doing this, because a lot of it was already in legislation, the Defense Authorization Act. But recap what happened, and now why this is so big what came out last week? Well, the truth is this report, while it was important because it got into the mainstream media, but reporters like Lee Smith, for example, the Great Lee Smith, had already reported the fact that John Brennan, and for that matter, Andrew Weissman from his time as general counsel of the FBI,

they knew that the Steele dossier was a fabrication paid for by Hillary Clinton, that the claim that Donald Trump had galleting me prostitutes in Moscow when there on a private business trip was false. yet Brennan pushed to include it into the intelligence community assessment that was handed to Joe to Barack Obama. And they use that as the rationale to launch the Mueller investigation to launch the greatest single dirty trick in American political history. And all the U.S.A. and all the funding for propaganda and censorship by saying we were all Russian agents. They ran a counter-espionage operation against American people framing us as Russian agents, including you. It is the greatest single abuse of power in American history, which they use the full authority of the government and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies to try to undo an election and bring down the duly elected president. I'm sorry, but Watergate hails in comparison. This was a small group of private citizens who were misguided, and as we now know from declassified documents being tracked and coached by the CIA to every step of it, it pales in comparison to the Russian collusion.

So my question is a simple one. When will John Brennan be arrested? Because treason has no statute of limitations. He engaged in treasonous activity and he should be charged. McCabe should be charged. Rosenstein should be charged. Susan Rice should be charged. Vice President Joe Biden, he was in on it too. He should be charged. Now, Barack Obama may be immune from prosecution under that Supreme Court ruling. I'm not an attorney. I can't say for sure. But the American people are getting tired of this. General Flynn is absolutely right.

These people tried to destroy Donald Trump's life, tried to destroy my life. They tried to destroy General Flynn's life. Alex, they tried to destroy your life. Is anybody going to pay any penalty for this? Oh, we're all distracted by Epstein. Well, the good news is Epstein is dead and he's no longer victimizing underage people and he's no longer able to supply, you know, underage people for the amusement of international elites and politically powerful people. At least he's out of business. But these people, these perps are still around, they're still playing the same game.

I saw John Brennan on TV a week ago saying he's appalled by the idea that Tulsi Gabbard would fire a bunch of deep state operatives from our intelligence agencies. I'm appalled that that guy is still walking around free, in all honesty. Absolutely. You also mentioned this via Trump ordering everything to be released and they keep refusing it. then he orders more and more comes out. Lee Harvey Oswald worked for the CIA. They had psychological warfare operations experts all over him. They say in contact with him, obviously coaching him. We knew he was at the YouTube base in Japan.

We knew he was a fake defector to Russia. He was married to the daughter of a famous anti-communist, white Russian, means czarist. And now this is old news for anyone that's done their research, but it's still a big deal that's coming out now with this CIA document, Roger. Total continued vindication. And as you said, finish up on this, I want to go back. You were saying more reports are about to come out of Congress detailing crossfire hurricane and the Russia collusion hoax.

Yeah, I think there's a bombshell report coming from Chairman Crawford in the House far, far more extensive than what CIA Director Ratcliffe released. I actually think Ratcliffe released kind of the most shallow version of the truth. But there's a lot more coming. I give enormous credit to DNI, director, Tulsi Gabbard, both on this matter and on the question of Oswald. And Napoleon alone, the congresswoman from Florida, she is a firebrand. She's a fighter. They held this document that you just showed. They held that back.

The CIA tried to hold that back. Remember, the CIA and the FBI insisted up until now that they had. had no previous knowledge of Lee Harvey Oswald. They didn't know who he was. Well, they knew who he was. They were coaching him. They were coaching him and positioning him as a pro-communist. Remember, they found him handing out pro-Castro leaflets on the street in New Orleans, along with Raphael Cruz, Ted Cruz's father. Yes, it's in the Warren Commission report. Yes, that is his picture. Yes, Judith Barry Baker, who was Oswald. mistress said everybody knew Angel Cruz, Rafael Cruz. He was part of Lee Harvey Oswell's

group. So now, finally, only because of the persistence of Congresswoman Luna, do we finally have an admission from the CIA that they not only were aware of Oswald, but they were coaching him. They were manipulating him. They were positioning him to be the Patsy. They were positioning him as a communist. Incredible. And more is coming out. How would you grade right now, Roger, the Trump administration,

166, 167 days, whatever it is in? I mean, overall, I'm seeing stunning successor. Well, let's go through the list. USAID, the slush fund of the radical left, defunded. Our border, border crossings are, illegal border crossings are down by 96%. We are deporting hundreds, thousands of dangerous illegal immigrants.

We have finally beaten back the judicial tyranny where some district judge can issue an order that affects the entire country. Trying to tell the president he can't negotiate a tariff agreement. Of course he can't. Try to tell the president that he can't. deport dangerous illegals? Of course he can. You have these tariff agreements that have been announced that are bringing billions of dollars back in the country. The big beautiful bill, not perfect, but it's only the biggest tax increase in American history. And 88% of the people on Social Security will pay no Social Security tax going forward, thanks to this bill. Not to mention the cutting

of the tax on tips, not to mention the funding for the Golden Dome, which is the Strategic Defense Initiative that protects this country, will protect this country, from incoming ICBM missiles. So I think I grade the president A-plus. Nobody is perfect, but I think he is really taken the bull by the horns, and he's implementing every step of his agenda. Meanwhile, over at HHS, Robert Kennedy is taking on the mandatory vacers and big pharma, and he's revealing the truth about the COVID vaccination and his lack of safety and efficiency, I think the president is doing amazingly well. One of the side benefits, not benefits, one of the side effects of his near death in Butler, Pennsylvania, not only a greater serenity and a certainty that his life was spared

for this very mission, but also, Alex, a sense of urgency that we have four years to to save this country, four years to turn around an ocean liner. And he is doing it as aggressively as humanly possible. He's a winner. He's a fighter. I think his appointments across the board have been extraordinary. They, the giant disagreement within MAGA, and I recognize those who were concerned.

But what he did in Iran, frankly, I agree with it. A surgical strike. No boots on the ground. No long-term commitments. Not taking out the oil refineries. Not taking a drone and killing the Ayatollah. Trying to push them back to the beach table. That's the Trump.

Well, let me raise that before I get in another controversy, him and his amesty announcement that he'd actually said before. Demonizing Tucker, and I had a brain for it. I said he was in the Ayatollah. No, it's the president, which everybody's done. The demonization of Tucker as non-American as a traitor, for letting the American people hear what the Iranian president has to say, what do you make of that a tip by the neocon regulars

and their talking points, the Shapiro's, the Levens? I mean, it's just ridiculous. First of all, I'm to correct myself. The Big Beautiful Bill had the biggest tax cut in American history. I misspoke. What they're trying to do to Tucker is absurd. Why are they afraid to hear what this guy has to say? By the way, I think he's going to reveal himself.

No one's claiming that he's a great man or that Islam is not dangerous. We admit all of that. But I think that the Warhawks are disappointed. You see, they wanted this to be another Afghanistan. They wanted this to be another Iraq. And that hasn't happened. Here's the difference. We went to war in Iraq for no reason whatsoever.

No, Dick Cheney lied to us when he told us they had the locate uranium to build nuclear more. And he lied to us. He said they were involved by the attack on America in 9-11. Those were two lies. And they lied about, said they had anthrax. Indeed. Here, there is no question

that the Iranians were developing a nuclear device, a nuclear weapon that they would then share with their proxies. This is not like the Japanese and the Germans in World War II where they wanted to destroy us, but they wanted to live. This is not like

our struggle with the Chinese or the Russians who want to destroy us, but they want to live. These are people who have no problem whatsoever killing themselves as long as they can kill us. That's why this is a particularly dangerous threat. That's why I fully support final decision made by the president to go in on a limited basis to destroy their nuclear weapons development program. And then that takes away that and Yonai won't have a full war. It's certainly working out so far, very dangerous gamble, but it's working so far. So let's keep going with the luck of Trump. Final question.

I know Trump said we're going to clamp down on the border and make a way for people that aren't criminals other than the pet across the border illegally, but they don't have big rap, rap and murder and drug dealing and, you know, human trafficking and all the rest of it. For farm workers and things. And I live in Texas. I know the Texas border, South Texas. There's nobody down there, but the farm workers that come across, basically.

Trump always said he was going to do that. Now, I'm for a moratorium. I think we've been totally overrun. But at the same time, after he gets a Supreme Court win, after they scale up deportations, he says, listen, for people that aren't committing a bunch of crimes, you know, that aren't here committing crimes, we're going to create a system with the farm workers to come and leave. Same thing with hotel workers. He already has a system that's legal to do that.

So that's exactly what Trump said. So I think, I'm a debate, Nick Boyn's. does on this tomorrow at 1 p.m. I think it's unfair to say this is a promise broken, and he's putting huge pressure on scaling up, and he always said that they would create a mechanism for people that aren't hardened criminals and do provide something to have a path to come back legal, but he wants that control in.

Here he is in Iowa over the weekend. People are really pissed about this. I think it's a misrepresentation. Here it is. Tom Holman. And we're working on legislation. right now. Susie, right? We're working on legislation right now where farmers, look, they know better. They work with them for years. You had cases that were not here, but just even over the years where

people have worked for a farm on a farm for 14, 15 years, and they get thrown out pretty viciously, and we can't do it. We've got to work with the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties, too. We're going to work with them, and we're going to work very strong and smart. and we're going to put you in charge. We're going to make you responsible. And I think that that's going to make a lot of people happy. Now, serious radical right people, who I also happen to like a lot, they may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand, won't they?

Do you think so? Madam Secretary, look at you with a white hat on. Do you think they'll understand that? You're the one that brought this whole situation up? All right, so I'm not an apology for this. I see both views, but he was always clear he was going to do this. Control it, make him come back legally. those that actually perform a service,

what do you think, Roger? If people are working and they're paying taxes and their employer will vouch for them and they have no criminal record and no criminal intent, but there is no work in the country that they come from, then yes, I think there should be a program

to allow them on a regulated basis to be in the country. When he speaks to the radical right, I think he's talking about you and I, Alex, I don't know. But yeah, he's always been a pragmatist, and is obviously clear that he's about business and therefore farmers, a restaurant, owners are saying, look, I can't find anybody to take these jobs. These people aren't criminals.

They will pay taxes. I will vouch for them. I think having a program under which they're allowed in the country is entirely... Trump always said we're going to shut down the illegal, do whatever free-for-all, and they'll create a program if it's controlled for some to come back. He always said that. Well, and the greatest priority continues to have to be a focus on those who are convicted of crimes in their country or this country. The most vicious criminals should be, I think are Tom Homan's number one priority.

I think we're talking about 30 million people here, Alex, not plenty. And supporting 30 million people will not be easy. But let's get rid of the most dangerous criminals first, not those who are fully employed. paying taxes and not hurting anybody. Well, there's no doubt. But whether you agree with that or not, and I can see both sides, Trump was always honest about that

and said he would do that. All right, well, we're going to continue to watch this, stonezone.com. Roger, thank you so much for the time. Thank you so much. Alex, it's great to be with you. God bless you. And by the way, Alex,

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I really want to get his take on Epstein and Moore. He is so smart. He has seen so much. But instead, I already wanted to do this. I complained the first hour. I said, God, I should probably take 10 hours of calls. I mean, this is quite the story. And look, Roger Stone is loyal to Trump.

He knows Trump's a good guy. And he knows this intelligence agency's in foreign government as a king of England putting pressure over his brother. But this Epstein thing is really, really a massive big deal. Because you can't say we got 14 terabytes of kids getting raped four months ago, two months ago, the AG on TV. And then you got Cash Patel running around months. letter on Joe Rogan saying, no, there's nothing. I'd release it. Trust me. You trust me, right?

The scandal. What are the Democrats going to do with that? What are they going to do with her saying? I've seen it. It's there. And U.S. attorneys saying it is everywhere. I mean, you don't need to be a genius to know this is a fiasco. And, you know, quite frankly, Roger, like, well, let's focus on Ratcliffe and the CIA and admitting that Obama ran a coup. the rush to get, yeah, that is what's important. So I think Trump needs to come out and he's to speak out very, very soon.

I want to play these clips again of the press secretary just an hour and a half ago being grilled over this and people are not buying it. So I don't want this to be a terrible scandal for Trump. I want his agenda to go through. But when they have the CIA Mossad, MI6, honeypot, sex trap, pedophile ring system that we know, for decades have been going on, we've been exposing for decades

longer than that, if they now don't prosecute this, they are becoming accomplices as a as half of the fact. So here's the press secretary. What happened?

Caroline, the DOJNFIA now concluded there was no Jeffrey Epstein client list. What do you tell maggot supporters who say

they want anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes to be held accountable? This administration wants anyone who has ever

committed a crime to be held accountable, and I would argue this administration has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly the previous administration. And the Trump administration is committed to truth and to transparency. That's why the Attorney General and the FBI director pledged at the president's direction to do an exhaustive review of all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and his death. And they put out a memo in conclusion of that review.

There was material they did not release because, frankly, it was incredibly graphic and it contained child pornography, which is not something that's appropriate for public consumption. But they committed to an exhaustive investigation. That's what they did, and they provided the results of that. That's transparency. Okay, so the FBI looks at the circumstances surrounding the debt of Jeffrey Epstein. According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list. So what happened to the Epstein client list that the Attorney General said,

she had on her desk. Well, I think if you go back and look at what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News, go ahead. John Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review. Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to

Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll let her speak for that. But again, when it comes to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put behind bars. All right. So all I can do is be honest with the listeners, because I haven't figured all this out yet to tell you what I'm thinking. And we're going to judge Joe Brown who we're able to get on. I appreciate him.

Come on an hour later. I apologize for that. I can't wait to hear us grab a toss on this. What an intelligent and storied person renowned for his knowledge and wisdom. I need Trump to succeed. I seem to all this good stuff. I see the bad guys coming after him. they've had now, I said five.

Now I've learned seven grand juries open on me in the last six, seven years trying to put me in prison. Accelerated under Biden. I need Trump to succeed. And to have Bondi, and all of them say, we've seen 14 terabytes of kids getting raped, and U.S. attorney's saying, yeah, I've seen it. We're prosecuting.

It just takes time. Now they're like, he didn't, he killed himself, and they put out a video with time cut out of it from outside the wing. You can't even see where he's at. Oh, we got a video from the hallway to the hallway to his wing. There's your proof. And there was no blackmail. There was no honeypot.

There was no U.S. intelligence agency or Mossad. When it's on record, he's Mossad and CIA. And Maxwell's, you know, his partner in crimes, dad was the head guy for Mossad in MI6. This isn't even debatable. He got buried with Mossad honors at Mount of Olives. Maxwell's dead. So why would you put out such a giant lie? So I wanted to get Judge Joe Brown on to give us his report card on Trump,

on the riots, on with the left's planning, because he's predicted it all. I wanted to get him on about the history of corruption at the FBI. But now this broke, since I was trying to get him on the last few weeks, with the Epstein thing. So I can't wait because I haven't talked to him other than some text messages a few weeks ago. I don't know his view on this yet. Judge Joe Brown is amazing. The Judge Joe Brown Show.com.

Be sure in watching. It's amazing. Judge Joe Brown TV on X. I don't need to go over his whole history and all the things that he's done. But he's been there and he's got the receipts. So, Judge, there's so much to cover in the 48 minutes we got. So thank you for being here with us. But I would imagine you want to respond to this and give you a take.

So take your time. I want to hear what you think is happening because if they wanted to cover up Epstein, if Trump did and maybe blackmail the deep state with it, I don't know. That's what I think, at least at one level, maybe. Why would you then contradict everything you said and do a 180 and put out a ridiculous video that shows nothing saying Epstein didn't kill himself and do a tour with total backlash with the FBI director and deputy director on Joe Rogan everywhere?

saying preposterous things that no one is buying. I am rarely dumbfounded. Maybe your knowledge can bring me up to speed here, but what the hell do you think is going on, Judge? Four things. One, a study of history, two, a couple of anecdotes dealing with clients

of situations that I was witnessed to and four a comment about human nature. Let's start with that one first. there is a human habit, especially when you're not used to dealing with such things to run your mouth off and say stuff up front, which you sometimes regret, and put you behind an eight ball. Let's go to the number one first, and that's the historical circumstances. You remember Matahari from World War I, the famous madam who was supposed to be sexy and hot, and she was a spy, who had been sleeping with all of the important people and was getting information for German intelligence,

and sometimes playing double agent. Well, the sex drive is very strong in humans, and if you're running an intelligence agency or you're doing something intelligence-wise, you can put that to good use and get those compromised situations down recorded these days, so you can

put them to use. The other thing is, is there is an interesting collaboration going on in the Middle East that very few people are aware of. Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia are very close

together. They work together all of the time, and I won't elaborate, but I have been in a situation, where someone I was close to. They were involved with my show also. We'd have meetings in my green room, and there'd be a Mossad agent there and a CIA agent there, and they would be having an interesting discussion about certain things.

And this close acquaintance friend, brother of mine, he would occasionally train Mossad, CIA, and Saudi intelligence agents all at the same time in some of the classes he taught. There is also a very close connection between the Saudi intelligence network, the CIA, and Mossad. At one point in time, 20 years ago, 15 years ago, the head of Saudi counterintelligence. was actually an American citizen, who's also Saudi as well, in line for the throne. He was born in the United States

and went to public school from kindergarten through grad school in California. His children were born in the U.S. His wife was born in the U.S. He had a place in Beverly Hills and was what it was, and there was an intense degree of, cooperation. You have this thing where during Carter administration, he worked with

Monachan Began and Anwar Sadat, so did Israel in Egypt wind up signing a treaty with each other and effectively became allies. And let me just talk to the chase here because you're, keep going, sir. You got the floor. But again, you're not just been involved as a judge and government and all the things you've done. When you have a number one TV show as you've had, that's where intelligence. say does you show up like wide on rice or flies on you know what? I've known this particular acquaintance

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know Mossad and CIA? When you got a number one TV show, it immediately appears. Like, I never tried to be around this stuff. When you get a big show, it appears. The point is, they're all around, anything hot, anything powerful to gauge and control and watch.

But that's not where I wound up knowing these people. You don't know before that. I was very active back in the 1960s with things and some of my close and personal friends. And in this case, a brother of mine, was I'll give you his name.

You can look him up. His name is Clifford Stewart, late of Los Angeles, California, Grandmaster Stewart, who Black Belt Magazine for about 15 years declared to be probably the most dangerous human alive in North America. I heard of him. Say his name again. I want to pull him up. What's the name? Clifford Stewart. Clifford Stewart Black Belt. Pull it up. Go ahead. Okay. He had 14 black belts and karate, 10th, and nine of them. He was a Kung Fu Grandmaster had Black Belt and Jiu Jiu Jitsu. and judo. He was a

pinnaker for Peanot Cilot, one of the most dangerous forms of martial arts. And he had his own discipline called within arms for each acronym War, and five of the members of Sealed Team 6 were his

active stoop. So, I mean, he went that way and he did assignments for Mossad, MI6, French and intelligence. CIA would come in once or twice a month and they would have a conference with him. So this was a serious person. And he also ran security for OPEC headquarters and was at one point chief of the royal guards of Amin Ra, who were the hereditary bodyguards for the royal house,

of Saudi Arabia. And it was an interesting thing that he wound up doing and some other people I knew. So this was a... I think we're going with this is. They're covering this up because of intelligence agency involved. Yeah. Now, this other thing,

I represented mostly criminal defendants when I practiced law. And there would be a time or two where something like this would happen. Excuse me. I know you have complicated my client in this, but we have something to offer for you. In return for suppressing what you might do, we can supply some very, very, very interesting information that might be of great use to certain people. And they would look at it and say, all right, maybe we can do some business. Let's see, this is what we want. And there are times, in our history and under our circumstances, particularly during the Cold War, that they'd get somebody spying or doing something off-key,

where they had the person dead to rights. But they couldn't use anything against them because if they did in an open-and-public, speedy trial, situation, the information that would come out would be too entirely dangerous and damaging to American security interests. Now, I imagine that Epstein had some very interesting ties and was using this sex drive that is so particularly strong in the people that tend to be in alpha male or female positions, that they can easily be compromise. That goes back to my remarks about the Matahari thing where it's been a tradition within the intelligence community worldwide to use people's sex drives to put them in compromise situations where you can turn. Sure, sex operatives are in the Bible, the Old Testament. I mean, it's the oldest thing. Yeah. Israel, you would have a prostitute's fine. Yeah. So that is what I think

Epstein was doing, and you have to remember that on one side, they've been pushing this peculiar form of Urzat's sexuality. You saw a lot of it come out with the ditty trial and getting your freak on and all this other stuff, him getting his on and that sort of business. But that leaves people open to a lot. Now, another thing, I talk to you sometimes, before, I think it's going on three years now. I was in New Jersey. And there was a thing we were doing, and I got a chance to talk to the technician who had not the one, but the three Hunter Biden laptops, and he had downloaded them. So at leisure, I got to go through and peruse what was on. So I won't get into them now, but you'll get into them now. But, you know, some of the things that were on those laptops would suggest that a lot of what Epstein was up to, had a lot to do with people in very, very high places in American government were too prone to get their freak on. And that was some very compromising material that was there,

which, by the way, I think, had something to do with the Dedy trial, because some of the things that I saw in these proceedings make absolutely no sense. Well, yeah, exactly. Marine Coney goes in and limitably covers it up for larger operations. So let me ask you this, then. Yeah. I didn't talk to you about your view. But I said this is the first hour.

Trump has taken control. He didn't do it. They're shutting it down from everything I've seen. He has taken control of the FBI CIA blackmail file. And now I suddenly see this deep state more and more rolling over. People will say, well, that's very immoral to do. the argument would be it's too damaging to bring this act and bring down the whole government. I'm not endorsing that, but the best approximation I've got is they get the files,

they raid the FBI, the FBI raids the FBI five months ago. When they hid the files in New York, they make the guy resign that was covering it up, and Comey's daughter still there. They then load the gun, cocked the gun, pointed the deep state's head, and now suddenly the NATO, everybody's kissing Trump's butt, and it looks like Trump is now in control of the file, and obviously they're not going to read in the FBI. It's the CIA and Ratcliffe doing it.

The best approximation I've got, it is speculation, but I have a lot of points, is that Trump has decided to just use the file against them. What do you think, Judge? I think you're right on point with that. I think a great deal of what happened with Smith and Melargo when the FBI raided it some years ago. And this thing that clearly they had no standing. to go against about him supposedly having classified confidential documents.

When, as we have discussed, the President of the United States under the Constitutionist Chief Diplomat and Commander-in-Chief has been held to have absolutely unquestionable authority as to what he declares either confidential and secret or decides to declare is not such. So my sneaking suspicion is that a lot of what he refused to turn over to the archivist, which was unconstitutional in terms of what it was trying to put in place through statutory override of constitutional authority, which is wrong, is that there was wrongdoing that if he turned it over to the archivist was going to be turned over to the people. who were recorded doing wrong and they would destroy it.

So we had an obligation to the people to maintain control of that, which he did. I see absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it's been dropped. It's dead. It's not there, but he knows that. And I have a sneaking suspicion that when the investigations are completed and they're solid, we're going to start seeing something come out of it. Interestingly enough, we have a very profoundly messed up situation in this country right now. There is a United States Criminal Code Title VIII Section 1324, and governors, mayors, all sorts of elected officials, sheriffs, police agencies, and various states,

states have completely violated this criminal statute or series of statutes. And it's no defense to the person has an official status. They can aid, a bet, advise, counsel, procure, give general comfort and assistance, and what is Title VIII Section 1324? Guess what? Got to do with setting up sanctuary cities for aid. alien invaders, or dealing with illegal immigrants and giving them comfort to evade apprehension, detention, deportation, to feed them, clothe them, shelter them, to provide transportation.

That's been felonious for quite a few decades, and people are just running off at the mouth claiming that they are engaged in these felonious activities. It's amazing to me, and that sets an atmosphere where there's a massive amount of crime. You hear the mayor of Los Angeles, you hear the governor of California advocating that people and their state officials interfere with ICE. that's under tight late 6 and 1324. And it's a felony to do that. And here they're claiming credit for it.

Isn't it really, isn't it a real insurrection? We're told Jan 6 was this is a real insurrection. This is real. I mean, I used to try, I've tried federal defendants. It's been 40-some years ago, but I had clients with those cases. What was happening is they were pimps and they were in Memphis, which is kind of one of the capitals of tempting and prostitution, at least it was, and they would bring in people from across the judge Joe Brown. We got to go to break. Come back and finish this story. I want to ask you about

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It's Alex Jones. Judge Joe Brown for decades, but getting known in the last 10 years, so interviewing him. He is very knowledgeable, and he's, I want to say rarely wrong, but I can't remember where he was wrong. So 35,000-foot view, started getting into it with the No Kings and Soros and the left and their attempt to create a race war around arresting the illegals and all the rest of it, but that seems to be fizzling out and not working. And then you got all these Article III courts that we know are administered. created by Congress, not co-equal like the Supreme Court.

Obviously, I'm not a lawyer, judge like you, but it was clearly unconstitutional. I predicted the Supreme Court had to shoot that down. But big picture, the Democrats continue to break records in their polling. They continue to have their lowest poll in history, lowest poll in history. We need a two-party system, obviously. We don't want a one-party dictatorship, but if they're extincting themselves, what happens to them as they continue down. Because I look at body language.

I looked at Hakeem Jeffries, the Democrats. They were trying to block the big, beautiful bill Friday. And I looked at their body language for hours. We covered it live. I watched it. They didn't have the same arrogance they used to have. But that almost makes them more dangerous. Because when people are arrogant, they're easier to beat, in my experience.

So I don't want to count them out. But at the same time, I smell victory. And I really see it up to us as American people to lose if we don't come together and have prosperity and justice and common sense. That's a long breakdown, but just in general with your knowledge, how are you feeling about America and where do you see the Democrats going? And what do you think the dangers are to this revival of Americana and freedom? I mean, is it going well?

Or what's your prognosis, Judge, for the country? I tell you this. Oh, by the way, you were looking good in the commercials there. Well, thank you. Not as good as you, but I'm trying. I was a fat ass. I'm getting too old. I just had a birthday yesterday, the day before yesterday, and I'm getting way up there.

So I'm working on aftermarket parts to keep going, but it's still going. Anyway, here's this thing. We have a situation where, for a number of reasons, over the last 50 years, mainstream media, the political circus, the American culture, has been pushing. a negation of character. What you've got with Epstein, what you got with Diddy, what you get with the mess that they try to show now and perpetrate as something to aspire to glorify dysfunction, in other words,

is a sickness that is founded on somehow or another we ought to be able to cut corners so we don't have to work hard, we don't have any personal accountability or responsibility. We don't have to be somebody to look up to. Great societies throughout world history have held up certain elements of character as things to achieve. Virtue, courage, forthrightness, being able to do hard work and demonstrate by your courage physically and, and morally that you are above the bottom level.

You're talking about competition. You're talking about the end of competition. I've got to say this. Everybody matches white people, but I'll tell you where we deserve it. Statistically, you can see it. You go to one of these pito parades. It's 90% the most disgusting,

crazy white people shaking their genitals in front of little kids they bring. And I would have to work hard to look or act like that. And these people are proud of them, and they won our children. This is what you're talking about, Judge. This is the final. What is wrong with white people? Look at this. That's where I was going with.

I knew it. We stop this November 24. How long we stop it and whether we end it is another question. But what it is is it's a negation of those aspects of human character that have gotten us from cave to condo. You are not supposed to be obligated to deal with duty. We honor our obligation responsibility. I agree with it.

What about the spirits? You've talked about this. Show the guy with the bunny rabbit ears with the beard. And this person is in love with themselves. What is that? He's not in love with himself. See, that is the key. They hate themselves.

Look at them. They look like dumb. They're physically unattractive. They are out of shape physically. They aren't doing anything in life. They hate themselves. So what we have is an interesting thing where... And they want to drag us with them.

Yeah, drag them with them. But see, the other thing is, is we have the effort to do something that is not political. It is almost a religion. It's like trying to impose a new religious cult on the country. We can't do that under the Constitution, but they're getting away with it because people don't recognize it. You said that on my show 10 years ago. You said the left and the whole LGBT thing is a cult. They admit it's a religion.

So exactly, how do you counter a religion? You've got to have a religion. So what is it? Competition, American. Well, see, look at this. The average woman in the United States looks a lot better than that. Probably has more sense, more personal dignity, more sense of purpose, and more sense of having a purpose. that is good for everybody else besides self.

These are selfish individuals that are not willing to honor the human compact of altruism and going out being willing to sacrifice personal interest for the good of the many. They hate themselves. So they have tried to impose this rainbow cult of hate on the country where you have no duty honor and obligation, and you can let everything go to hell. It is not good. Where everybody is supposed to be so sensitive that no one can be critical.

No one can be objective. You're supposed to... They want us to surrender. They want us to surrender. And you're saying we're Trump, the surrender's over for now, but we haven't won yet. We haven't won yet. It's not over because we're just a year and a half into this. And we have got to firm things up.

so it stays with us. Because look at this. Where are our hero? Basketball players, football players, baseball players, actors. We don't even laud military heroes anymore. We have vague mentions on the back page or something or as an after effect when a news service carries it that somebody got a metal.

They don't even give out medals anymore. stuff that would have gotten you close to getting a CMH congressional Medal of Honor might get you nominated for a bronze star now they've cut stuff down and out we've had heroic boys and girls over in the sand pile for 35 some years

but we haven't honored them we don't have heroes somebody sinks a three-pointer with four seconds left in the game that's a hero that's not a hero that person gets paid millions of dollars for doing something that a lot of people waste their time as a preoccupation. That's not what a hero is about. We have Maxine Wastewater types.

We have Corey Bookers. We have Akeem's in Dasmund Rockets. And what are they? They are an anathemas who reject those states. that humanity has honored. They're trying to say, hate yourself. There is no need to start trying

because you will be a failure. Let us take care of you. But that's where I was going, and you sold my thunder. They act like, I've watched these videos, and I've been there in person, it's nightmarish. It's much worse in person. They're all acting like they're powerful and happy, but they're loathom,

they are unhappy, and they hate everybody else. So why can't they get out of it? Why are they like this? Can't we, is there any way to save them? You need to start making it tough again. The world is not a fair

place. What'd you have for dinner last night? You have anything meat or fish? Yeah, I had some beef and a salad. Okay, so a cow had to die so you could have the beef. You'd think it was fair to the cow?

No. but I'm the Apex Predator and that's how it is I know but you get out in some places I can think of off California's coast in the wrong place and you might run into Smiley a.k.a. A. A.k.a. He's 16 feet long with a bad attitude. Exactly. You know, life is not fair. People are getting

mauled a lot in the last couple of years by large bear around the country because the populations are increasing. We don't hunt them and they don't feel the pressure and they don't recognize the food change status that we're supposed to be top of. And then, you know, you might

get done in by earthquakes, tsunami, typhoon, hurricane, tornado. It's a lie that the world is a safe place. It's not. I mean, all kinds of things can go wrong. It's dangerous. Now, you might be, you might be, going to get your gas and some damn fool that didn't get raised properly decides he wants to take

you out. The world is not safe. So these people want to have this illusion that everybody's supposed to be about safe and all you have to do is want to have warm little smooth feelings and get your freak on and everything is supposed to be all right. Well, that concentration on getting your freak on out in the open is ruining stuff. It's called decency. you know, we are indecent. What we hold up to children to watch is no longer restricted. The language is foul. The circumstances are foul.

They have Walt Disney pushing some horrible things. Have you seen this one? What is it? Arlo and Stitch. Is that the name of the cartoon? There's a bunch of pedo stuff in Disney. Yeah, yeah, but it's even worse. See, they made a movie out of it.

But the original animation, that little creature, is a biological weapon that is completely destroyed all life on six planets. So the bad guys are an inter-well, in a galactic posse that's trying to stop it before it wipes all life out on another. Wow, no, I didn't know about this. So they've got a show where the thing. that wants to kill humanity is the good guy? Yeah, that's the good What's the name of it? I'm looking at a stitch and what?

Is it Stitch? Arlo and Stitch or something like that? If the little girl, she's six years old and her sisters are guardian and sisters an idiot who hangs around surfing and won't take care of business so everything goes to the devil, so

they try to make that look good. So she hides this thing from people, and They're trying to, yeah, that thing. That is in the storyline a biological weapon that's wiped out all life on six separate planets. And it's supposed to be cute. Which is Bill Gates. Wow.

So they're telling us what they want to do. Yeah. And then look at some other classics. Home alone. E.T. Now, this is this thing where children know more. than their incompetent adult parents. So the children get proved right when they disobey the parent.

And that's been going on for 50 years. So it is no wonder that children don't listen to parents anymore. Oh, and listen to you may have seen this, Judge. Paul Ehrlich wrote books about it, the big globals for the depopulation, but the 70s and 80s, he went on Jimmy Carson everywhere and said, watch, suddenly all the images is the man's an idiot, the parents are idiots, the kids are in charge, that's how we're going to bring up. bring down civilization. They even admitted it at the time.

Yeah. Now, let's hook this back up with the Epstein thing. It is so obvious that Epstein has had international intelligence and security ties. He is taking this developing thing in this society, and he is giving it an outlet, and he's bringing people in to get their free again, freak off. So that makes them even more compromised than they're already are. They become subject to manipulation

and control. There's an interesting thing about Mossad in the Israeli government. It's not that the CIA NSA military intelligence doesn't assassinate somebody on behalf of the American government from time

to time, but technically it's against the law and it can land you in Levinworth, all right? But for Israel, assassination is a recognized and legitimate and protected form of diplomacy. There is a distinct possibility from what I've seen and been exposed to that there may be a thing where Israel has its mojo on precisely because it would be indefensible to go against Israel openly for most elected and appointed officials in America. And if Mossad were to decide to assassinate one or two of them, it would be very clumsy trying to do something about it.

So I think people back off because it's almost like being in an inner city and you can't get out of the hood. No, I agree. So Israel news has been bragging. There are superpowers against Central America. I don't hate Israel inherently, but I don't want any foreign power. controlling us, and they, like Israel lets people go there to committed crimes here. It's a zone, kind of a get out of jail free card.

And as people get really upset about Israel, some of us exaggerated, so it's true. It's coming to a head. I had Michael Savage on last week. He's pro-Israel, but he said he talks to top Israeli leaders and intelligence to the military. They're concerned Netanyahu's gone too far. And that the amount of pressure that Israel's built against itself is coming to a head. What do you think about that? I think you're exactly right.

Now, you saw the explosions? Yes. That's already here set up ready to go. You don't need any suicide crew to fly airplanes they've hijacked into the Twin Towers. They've already set to charges. All they need to do is get a command to detonate them or go rogue and do it on their own. Our southern borders have been opened. And from 30 to 50 million people have come across in the last four years.

Those folk that hate us, have been able to come over here and in place what they need to do justice on a more efficient basis with military-grade explosives. They do not need to hijack these planes and kill themselves. They don't need to parachute in from high altitude. They don't need to take rubber boats from some kind of naval vessel, submarine, whatever. They've been taking their time. They've been taking the time. So, Judge, what do you see?

They're here already. And we are in a situation where it looks like some food for other purposes have over the years been dealing with Epstein stuff, cooperating with what ought to be our surrogates in the Middle East to do something about spreading their poison. Now, here's the interesting thing. I haven't talked to you about this one. But under the Constitution and the authority given to the President of the United States, had Kamala Harris Emhoff been elected, she has, as Chief Diplomat of the United States,

the authority to declare somebody to be in asylum status, to be a political refugee, she can retroactively date that. And under American laws, if you have that status and let's say you've been bag dated, just say January 2020, in five years you automatically get your citizenship without going to a single class taking a single test. So if you retroactively grant that status back to January 2020, five years from January 2020 has already hit and get. Guess what? There's a midterm election next year. All of these illegals who could have been declared to be in asylum status would be able to vote. And somebody that's trying to spread this call, this cult, by any means necessary, now has the ability to bring to bear anywhere from 30 to 60 million people. Maybe not that.

And we just had an ice facility and reportedly an officer shot shot up today in McAllen, Texas. So we're almost out of time, Judge. You've got to come back soon. And, of course, the judge Joe Brown Show.com, Judge Joe Brown TV on X. Big picture, because you're laying out red crumbs here and are dead on in my view. Big picture, what do you think the main challenges are to America the next six months, six few years? And what is your advice? What is your advice to President Trump?

My advice to President Trump is realized. or mega has the genesis of a third viable political party that does not have the baggage of the Republican Party and represents ordinary, hardworking Americans who understand the virtues of classic human character. Do not listen to mainstream media. Do not listen to the people who are trying to subvert you being good, not. normal humans. They are lying to you. They need to tune in the outlets like we have going right here.

By the way, we need to get together and do something a little bit more expansive. I keep battling this bankruptcy. Did you know, side issue, I talked to you off air about this. I need to talk to you about it. We caught the Justice Department funding it. Not just, we have all the documents. More stuff is about to come out. But it's been crazy.

It's been absolutely crazy. Obama literally put a political head out on me in 2013 with Comey. We got all those documents for Trump. And now Moore's come out. The whole thing, I mean, I knew it was rigged, but, Judge, this is a major scandal separate from me, for anybody, the level. And the Justice Department is investigating the new Trump Justice Department. Because they said they've covered up all these big operations that they were sloppy with you. And, Judge, they were so sloppy.

It is crazy. I get it. I do not have any doubt whatsoever that what you're saying is true. You know, it's the way they work. See, you get this leftist crowd. They're on a holy mission of saving you from yourself. And in the process, by any means necessary means they lose all sense of character in propriety. They will do anything that they can do to achieve their end.

So we have to watch and stop that. Well, that's my final question. I kind of got to it earlier, but if they're losing and they are, what do you expect them to pull? I expect them to have a spasm. They are trying to set up and they fail this summer to have a long hot summer where they get some issues to get just total uproar. in our large urban areas and a lot of mass uprisings of lawlessness.

They don't have that because they don't have a cause that's inspiring people. Now, that said, I think one of the things that we need to start doing is to turn their methods on them but with a specific purpose of restoring normalcy. and I think we can do it. From what I've been studying with modern communications, it takes about six days for a fad to start in the United States.

And that fad can be a positive one, and I think we need to commit ourselves. What you're saying is they're a cult, we need a healthy Americana cult, we need to launch a bunch of and see what hits. Yeah. And I think since they are what they are, and we are what we are,

and we represent the overwhelming, I guess you'd call it silent majority of the American people of humanity, I think we'll prevail. But we have been bamboozled and convinced that we are on the downside of things and it's going against us. We only have that happening because we believe that's what's going on and that's not the truth. Beautifully said. Judge, join us again soon. Judge O'Brien, TV. We've got to talk. Let's talk.

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