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Episode Date: July 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:17 Tomorrow's News Today. I'm Wednesday edition. We're entering the 170th of the Trump administration that we had hoped would be the rebirth of the America, Republic, and the West. And still, I would say 90% of what he's doing is good. But six months ago, it was 98%. Then a few months ago, it was 95% in my dead reckoning. And now we're moving down about 90%. so a turn into events and behaviors that is beyond troubling.
Starting point is 00:01:15 But I can tell you the White House and the DOJ and the Pentagon, unlike the Democrats and that brand of Deep State, the establishment that's being dislodged, does not care about your opinion or what you want. In fact, they hate you. The White House does pay a lot of attention to you and me and what we have to say. And I'm overall proud of the populist conservative movement
Starting point is 00:01:49 in that unlike the left, we are not one big cult that just follow whatever the party talking points are. We created the revolution, the populace revolution to the Tea Party and Trump the last 20 plus years, that is not just taking, America back, culturally, economically, spiritually, politically, but that is spreading all over
Starting point is 00:02:15 the world that is recognized by sociologists and anthropologists and political experts and futurists as stemming from the resistance movement that has been ongoing for really 60, 70 years to the globalist in the United States, but exploded under myself, Ron Paul, and many, many others. in the last 30 years, people like you. So whereas some of the behaviors of Trump, like the Epstein-File, gaslighting, whitewash, firestorm, whereas that is extremely frustrating
Starting point is 00:02:59 and extremely dangerous, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because our global awakening in the United States, epicenter of that is exponential and is unstoppable, unless the global has released some supervirus or have a nuclear war. And even that, in the end, they'll be defeated as people know they're behind it. Now, I've had some time to continue to research and talk to my sources about what's happening with the suppression of the Epstein case, not just a list of clients, the
Starting point is 00:03:35 terabytes of child rape and the rest of it and the desperate damage control spin we've seen. And my sources in high-level U.S. intelligence in the White House and in the FBI have said, no, exactly what you said on Monday is exactly what we know it is now. And that it is a war inside the intelligence agencies and the DOJ, not even so much between the Democrat NGO Soros wing. that's more and more on the outside and being dismantled. Trump's really doing that. But that into that vacuum has come Israel.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Now, people are always saying Israel runs all our foreign policy, and Israel runs us domestically. And from my research, there's been a lot of different factions and power groups, and Israel's not been dominant in our domestic policies, and has not been dominant in our global foreign policies, but has been steering the bus on the Middle East. but in this power vacuum and this global revolution happening, particularly here in the United States,
Starting point is 00:04:41 Israel and the Lekidnix are making a run at season control of Mago right now. And so that's what this is really all about behind the scenes. Now I'll give you the exclusive information straight ahead. You'll want to share the live feed on X right now at Rolls show. You don't want to hear this. It's almost poetic the products that we sell because, yes, they are the best. Yes, it is the best price for the highest quality. Yes, they are a third party tested.
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Starting point is 00:06:12 Mainstream Media, government cover-ups. You want to stop tyranny? Well, so does he. Live from the InfoWorse.com Studios. It's Alex Jones. On the phone last night and this morning with high-level sources in the Pentagon, high-level sources in Centcom, high-level sources in the media, high-level sources in the White House, high-level presidential advisors.
Starting point is 00:06:49 and I have confirmed talking to all of them that exactly what I surmised all of this was on Monday is exactly what's going on. And so we are known as being tomorrow's news today. And I'm just going to lay out the facts here about this Epstein gaslighting cover-up whitewash that went from being a very dangerous fiasco Sunday into Monday with the DOJ memo that got leaked like a fart in church because they didn't want attention to it that the Epstein case is closed. And then, of course, on Monday, the White House confirmed the DOJ, no, that's a real memo.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And it said, Epstein acted alone. He wasn't a human trafficker. There was no blackmail operation. and he killed himself. Now, already when they killed Epstein and covered this up over the last 15 years and killed him four or five years ago,
Starting point is 00:08:04 it has already been a firestorm of firestorm was because of the Streisand effect. We don't know what the Streisand effect is. Barbara Streisand built this giant mansion on the beach, and she didn't want people talking about it. and when the local reporter talked about it, she attacked them. So then it got picked up by the international press.
Starting point is 00:08:25 It was a giant story. And so by coming out and saying, actually everything we told you in the past isn't true, there aren't 14 terabytes of kids getting raped. There aren't all these new flight logs and blackmail. Forget about it. Go to sleep. It went to a whole other level. this is the big issue
Starting point is 00:08:51 the general public finally understood the deep state through and then when Trump came out in that press conference yesterday at about 1130 Central we'll play the clip again and got visibly angry and then attacked the reporter basically said you're standing on the graves of dead kids
Starting point is 00:09:10 because they've just been talking in a free-for-all discussion about the tragedy in the Texas Silicon country and I mean that was a very unfair attack on a reporter that asked a really good question. And so the story went from mega-massive to ultra-massive. And so now behind the scenes, and a lot of big reporters have talked about,
Starting point is 00:09:35 I'll talk to others that's happened to. They've had the FBI call them up that's given them information in the past as a source and said you're going to be cut off if you don't stop talking about this. now just like Kyle Sarifan said on Monday high level fiel whistleblower was his approximation he wasn't sure yet they've got deep staters in their giving Patel and Bongino very bad advice I mean anybody that understands the media in 101 if you wanted something to strides an effect if you wanted something to blow up if you wanted something to be a scandal you would act exactly like Patel, Bongino,
Starting point is 00:10:20 Pam Bondi, and Trump are acting. And I see the Q people going, oh, it's 90 trillion level chess. It's infinity chess. It's God. Trump is tricking the Democrats from demand the release of the list and the information.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Trump has it. The DOJ has it. He's the president. We have control. You don't need the Democrats to release it. It's just delusion. I said on Monday. I said, you watch, they're already trying to say Bondi got out of her skis and blame her. I'm not her apologies to the offenders. It's not her. She was told to say everything she said before.
Starting point is 00:10:55 It was accurate about the new information they raided in March out of the New York. FBI offices where they've been suppressing it. So that's not what you do when you're involved in a cover-up. And I said on Monday, a video I posted at 8 a.m. That I shot at 7.50 in the parking lot where I came in the office. That this isn't Bondi, backtracking this and deep-sixing this or 86ing this, or memory-holing it. No, this is Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And then I went through explaining why I believed it was, and it's not that that's been confirmed. People, oh, no, it's Bondi, it's not Trump. No, no, no, no. And then he puts out that afternoon the message on true social that he backs everything that Patel and Bonino did, and that now they could move on to more important things. And then yesterday, he blew up at a
Starting point is 00:11:57 reporter. He said he didn't want to hear about this anymore. So, it is Trump. And that's not an attack on Trump to understand what's happening. You need to understand it's Trump. Not, oh, he doesn't know what's going on. Oh, it's not Trump.
Starting point is 00:12:13 No, we already know what's going on. In the first limited hangout criminal prosecution of Epstein 15 years ago in Florida by Republican U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta it came out that he said he was told by U.S. Intel leave him alone or slap him on the rest. That's what he got was like a year in jail,
Starting point is 00:12:40 only overnights in the jail. Epstein, there in Florida, they're in the Palm Beach, Harriet. And he said, I was told he's intelligence by U.S. intelligence. He didn't say what intelligence. And he's been asked about it since then. And he says, I can't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:13:03 You show you all the articles, the videos, that's there. You have the head of Israel constantly secretly trying to visit the New York facility of Epstein. He goes on and on. You have all these world leaders going to Epstein Island and Zoro. ranch, not just American leaders, not just political leaders, but corporate leaders, academic leaders, top scientists, bankers. And so this was an intelligence agency operation, and almost everyone involved in it, knew they were getting into the globalist banking cartel system that's even above the CIA.
Starting point is 00:13:49 That's just a governmental clearinghouse in an initiation. just like you see in the movie, eyes wide shut. Just like you see with Bohemian Grove. And that's just an outer part of the cult. You don't get into these organizations unless you bear minimum have sex with children. That is the initiation. And that's why Trump was always, and I've researched it, an outsider and did everything on his own with his family, that was never in these clubs.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But the Democrat leaders are just absolutely thickest thieves in this and some Republicans. The Dennis Hasterts of the world. And we had a cost to resign as the Labor Secretary over Jeffrey Epstein plea deal. And it was Trump brought him in. So, U.S. intelligence, the CIA, under the Democrats and the globalists, was using these blackmail files, these initiation events. to control their people. That was the whole point of it.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And then when Trump becomes president, and this time actually begins to really control the deep state, would he then release all these bankers and tech titans and political leaders and indict them all for raping children? And the argument would be, well, no, he can't do that. It'll bring down the whole U.S. government. I'm not endorsing that. That's how this works.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm explaining what's going on. Now, the question is, Will he stop the human trafficking sex slavery? Or will he let Mossad, CIA, MI6, continue it on? Well, he can't even get his own staffers to do what he tells him. So, no, you have to expose the whole thing to him to prison, or it does continue on. The argument that you can take control of it to manage it and limit it, that's his Zimbrizovinsky argument he made in books he wrote in the 70s about how Western intelligence runs human trafficking and sex slavery and pedophilia for control.
Starting point is 00:16:06 So this is something the last few decades the American people have learned about but when I was first getting on air 31 years ago and immediately got a popular show I got a chance to interview and get to know John DeCamp and all these other high-level whistleblowers Ted Gunnerson from the FBI from the CIA
Starting point is 00:16:35 who had exposed giant human human trafficking, pedophile rings, like Larry King, not the CNN anchor, Larry King, the Republican fundraiser. And in the 80s, and the operations they were running around the country, but mainly out of Omaha, Nebraska. So this isn't some new thing with Epstein. Epstein is a Mossade, MI6 CIA triple agent and they were in charge of initiating
Starting point is 00:17:13 and blackmailing high-level initiates. Again, when an MS-13 person is about become a made member and they tell them, okay, go kid and kid take them and torture him to death for Satan, that's their main initiation to become a high-level member. They're not being blackmailed. They're joining the club.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So that's how this system works. That's a fact. It's not debatable. So I understand the argument. I don't agree with it. But I understand the argument of this is too evil and too bad to bring out. It will bring down the whole U.S. government. And so Trump grabs the files from the Democrats they wouldn't give them in New York with cash, Patel and Bonding back in March, delivers the files and the terabytes of child rape and all the rest of it to the FBI offices around the country.
Starting point is 00:18:10 country. That's cocking the gun, loaded the gun, cocking the gun, puts it to the head of the system. And you notice in March, as soon as he did that, you started seeing the establishment roll over faster and faster. Still, there's large parts of that happen. But at the top, they're bending the knee. He goes to NATO, now they basically fall down and worshiping. He goes to the Middle East. Same thing. I mean, it's because he now understands how things works, and he's getting in there. That's the third. thinking from Trump. And I'm not defending it. I'm exposing it.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Now, they are cutting down the 96% new human trafficking in, and they are going after the low-level rings and the slavery and all the rest of it. So I'm seeing major good moves and actual policy that affect the main. But when it comes to the specifics of this, separately, you have the giant PR disaster of having Bongino and Patel go on Fox a few months ago, like they're in the headlights, and say,
Starting point is 00:19:25 no, everything we told you before is not true. Forget it. There's nothing. Oh, and by the way, the guy at Butler acting alone as well. And the body language was just insanely over the top like they were political prisoners and had guns of their heads. They're like political hostages. And then they go on that tour, spot on the same bull. And I said, they need to stop.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And now you got Bondi and Trump doing it when if they were going to just fade this out and use it for deep state control of the deep state. That's what it is that it controls a system of the deep state. It's the keys of the deep state. Why would you then run around and openly tie yourself to it by publicly covering it up in the most ridiculous way you could? Making the biggest example out of it, you could. I mean, if you wanted to have a self-inflicted political wounds,
Starting point is 00:20:22 you couldn't do a better job. And people go, oh, it's the trillion D. Chess again. he wants the Democrats to demand its release. Where's the logic there? He can just release it. He has control of that. Why does he need them to demand it? That's just delusion.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And you notice Jamie Raskin and all the usual suspects, they're saying we want anything in the files with Donald Trump's name release. They don't want the main thing released. No, this is a firestorm for Trump. what happened is the deals Trump made with the deep state to stop attacking him if he did this was you've got to now join it as an accessory after the fact
Starting point is 00:21:06 you've now got to come out and say nothing's there he wasn't even a sex trafficker he didn't have any there were no marks there was no blackmail when his accomplice Gislein Maxwell is in prison
Starting point is 00:21:25 for human trafficking. So this is part of a deal that Trump made with these different factions. And I've talked to a lot of people the last few days, last night this morning, and they said, we concur with your analysis 100%. And with the points that you and Nick Foyt has been making, they specifically brought him up,
Starting point is 00:21:53 that we know Israel and its intelligence operations, target the U.S. heavily, and target U.S. president specifically in Congress, and that they're heavily involved in the joint blackmail file with the CIA at MI6 with Epstein, who was a Mossad officer, and took it over from Gisland Maxwell's father, who was a hollow Mossad operative. And so internally, there's that whole battle, and that Trump has been using that against Israel, not the other way around.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And then you see all the fawning of Netanyahu. and Trump all over each other. Oh, you're the greatest man in the world. Trump says to him, oh, you get the Peace Prize. He says back to Trump. And then behind the scenes, I know people that have been there, Trump does not like Netanyahu. There's a lot of problems with him.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Remember, he was the first world leader to call him. Congressional, Biden, when he stole the election in 2020, 2021. So what you see on the service is not really what's going on. So I am not going to endorse any of this. I am simply sitting back and pointing out that this is clearly what is going on, and people have a right to know that. But they always keep us in these lower-level debates about who was Epstein intelligence.
Starting point is 00:23:31 We have all the proof. We know it's ridiculous. And so, yes, there's that argument, okay, well, Trump did this because U.S. intelligence was involved, and it's too embarrassing for the CIA. And if it comes out all these bankers and academics and world leaders and politicians are involved in this, that will crash the stock. market. But now you understand how these intelligence agencies do this so they
Starting point is 00:23:56 can hold governments and society hostage not just the people that have done the evil acts and have been compromised by design, willfully in most cases, willingly as initiation, but the whole culture in the country and the currency itself. Now they have these very same networks in Europe,
Starting point is 00:24:14 very same networks in the Middle East. It goes on everywhere. The British intelligence really perfected it in the last hundred years. And they're all over this. You've got the King of England, not just his brother, with Jimmy Savelle and serious pedophile networks, control the British government.
Starting point is 00:24:32 That's mainstream news over there. And we're talking murder children. We're talking kill them. In fact, when you get heavy into this stuff in these groups, that's like the seen as, you know, the hard liquor. People that are just raping kids are seen as, you know, you just drink beer while I drink scotch. and that's come out.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I mean, dungeons full of dead kids, you name it. And now we've got whistleblowers on Patrick Bed David, very credible, about how Trudeau's dad, you know, she was supplied to him by David Rockefeller when he was prime minister. And he said, well, I'm not allowed to kill you, and that's how it works, because she was a long-term operative, smarter use for spying and things. But he goes, you tell David,
Starting point is 00:25:26 I want a girl looks just like you. I'm going to full tell, but I know some of the tales. I want to get that was plur wrong. Because what they like to do is kill you. And so, I mean, look into Savelle alone. What they would do is, I remember Gunterson telling me about this, how Satan would get babies around the U.S. too. And, of course, it came out in the U.K., they were doing this.
Starting point is 00:25:55 They'll have a poor woman comes in. She's starting to deliver her a baby. It's only certain hospitals are controlled. they'll drug her up and for like three, four days, oh, your baby died, and then they take the baby an orphan it, you know, sell it off, or they take its organs,
Starting point is 00:26:13 or they take it, and then rape it a bunch, depending on what group wants it, that may send it for a black mass, with Satanists, you know, slowly drain its blood over a night. That's a whole different ritual, or they'll sit over here,
Starting point is 00:26:25 but they'll just like to rape them to death. But the rule is they'll have handlers there that take the baby when they're done. So it's all, a big industry, obviously. So, I remember, Guntersson was telling me this stuff 31 years ago, and I knew he was highly decorated and high-level FBI. They wanted to be the director when he was younger,
Starting point is 00:26:45 the head of the FBI in LA. But I believed him, but I still, it was unbelievable. And then over the decades, everything he said has come out, everything, just all of it, the CIA, giant warehouse, the finders in D.C., snuff films, satellite uplinks. I mean, video drone, but for real. Remember in video drum, Cronomberg movie? James Woods,
Starting point is 00:27:07 starts getting into watching this weird channel on satellite, and people being tortured. He thinks he's a TV executive. He's man, there's no budget, but I'm addicted, and it's really possessing him, you know, watching. It's real murders he's watching. He doesn't know it. And then he finally unscrambles it with his technicians,
Starting point is 00:27:23 and it's not coming out of, you know, some place in Asia, Bangkokers. No, it's coming out of Des Moines, Iowa. It's coming out of Kansas. Kansas. Because they're telling you, back when Kronenberg made that move in the 80s, they had one of those facilities with live saddle up and these kids getting raped and tortured women, getting raped and torture. And I mean, you just, that even came out, but they shut it down. So imagine you're Trump and you're handed this and everybody's like, oh, release it. And you saw Bondi. Well, this isn't Epstein raping kids, but it's hundreds of kids being raped. That's their new spin.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Earlier, she said, no, it's Epstein. She goes, and that will never be released. Well, of course, you don't release it, but you indict the people, and then you show it to the juries, and then they give them the death penalty. So that's how this works, ladies and gentlemen. A videodrome is a documentary. I just watched it again. Two weeks ago made me really freak me out. I was like, oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:33:26 Government cover us. You want to stop tyranny? Well, so does he. Live from the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones. A bunch of these huge clips, out of all the other amazingly important news we have. New audio has been leaked of President Trump, threatening to bomb Moscow and Beijing, if they invade any countries. Putin sends message to U.S. with record 700 drone missiles in overnight attack on
Starting point is 00:34:38 Ukraine, mainly targeting their capital, Kiev. Panic in Brussels, globalists tremble as patriots for Europe group will lead negotiations on the EU's climate target and ditch the climate cult global carbon tax. I mean, it just goes on and on. Supreme Court rules 8 to 1 to allow President Trump to cut federal
Starting point is 00:35:08 workforce in any department he chooses, which is constitutional. It's these judges that are the tyrants. So, getting back to the Epstein situation, to have this information, to have habits suppressed, to have the huge
Starting point is 00:35:26 scandal of the Democrat-controlled FBI in New York, Not releasing it to the head, FBI and D.C. And the DOJ in D.C. When they were ordered to, and to have that raid, basically, in March where they get the material, they report it to everybody, it's confirmed. I confirmed from my FBI sources. It's been sent out to the field offices around the country. I'm like, this is incredible. They're really doing it.
Starting point is 00:35:51 They're delivering on promises. People said, oh, it'll never happen. You watch. And I said, why would you then get all the material that's hidden by Comey? his daughter and then send it out. Well, that's because they were bringing it out the art of the deal in front of the deep state saying, we're not playing around. We'll bring this out.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And so that's what happened. And so people need to know what this is really all about. But you add to this, Trump and Bondi shaking their fingers at press, pro-Trump press, that's like, hey, Epstein is, you know, intelligent. The U.S. Attorney said that prosecuted the first case, which we already know. That's a pretty authoritative source. We have so many others. And now we're not supposed to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:36:52 In fact, he didn't even human traffic when his partner in crime, his lane is in prison for that? That's why I said on Monday, it went viral. Next, the Justice Department on this trajectory will tell us that Jeffrey Ebb, never existed. So why would they do this? There is no logic other than it was part of the deal, the deep state, to say, all right, to make sure you never bring this back against us again, come out and say, put your name to it
Starting point is 00:37:33 and say, nothing exists, nothing ever happened. Jeffrey Epstein was an upstanding member of society. There was no money being given to him by anybody else, even though upwards of a billion dollars was drained out of his bank account right after he died. Oh, nobody's supposed to look into that. Pan Bondi says the FBI delivered a truckload of Epstein files that she put on hard deadline. And they play the semantical rule.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Well, there's no little black book that has a list of Johns pedophiles. What is it they call them that in the book? Do you think they just have one book? So they go, oh, well, there's not a client list, because maybe there's nothing listed saying it's that. But there's all the rape and the rest of it. But even the stuff she released back in March when she got set up supposedly with the old files, was Ahou, Barack and other leaders, and what kind of girls they liked. What girls they've been given before.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So even in the stuff the FBI released previously and a little bit of new stuff this year, there's human trafficking right there. but now there was never any human trafficking. What an insult to everyone's intelligence. And let me tell you, 95% of the time Trump's saying something, it's true, I defend it. I do it constantly. My job's easy. But not now, and I won't defend this.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Tucker Carlson says this could trigger and spark a revolution. Ben Shapiro, though, is in my view. I mean, definitely is from his actions. Probably a Mossad agent, but definitely works for Israel. always has. He came out and said Epstein didn't do anything basically and there was no money funding him.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Don't look into all the other known Israeli operatives like Lex Wesner and all the rest of them. And by the way, you're either for Trump or Alex Jones. So he builds the strong man, classic intelligence formula. It's coming up.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You're either with the crazy person, Alex Jones, or you're with Trump. And then he quotes CNN articles that are fake that my lawyers said 12 years ago on a custody battle that I'm an actor and nothing I say is real. It's not true. They never said that. My wife was trying to enter a parody I did where that clearly was acting. Like when it rushed up like a month ago was Cookie Monster did a joke.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Was it trying to fool you there? And was the Joker talking about how good fluoride is in the water for kids? because, you know, The Joker, in the comic book, lore likes to poison food and water and cosmetics and things. So I was like, oh, kids, take your Prozac, drink your fluoride, take your drugs, blah, blah, blah. You know, reverse psychology, so kids won't. And my lawyer said, that's not admissible for the jury,
Starting point is 00:40:38 because that's obviously not the real Alex Jones. She was saying, look, he's crazy in the filing. He should have his kids taken away because he's got on makeup and is screaming and yelling. And my lawyer said, in this case, You don't say Jack Nicholson is really the Joker because he's in the movie The Joker. It wasn't that everything I say is faker. I'm an actor.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I may do parodies and jokes now once every three, four months. You know, like when I did, The Gay Frog. What I name him? Geronimo Frost. Does anybody think that's really the real me? It's me making a joke. No, 99% of the time or more, you know this broadcast. we're just right up here straight shooting and we tell you about something and then we show it to you.
Starting point is 00:41:23 We tell you about legislation, we show it to you. We tell you Trump said something, we show it to you. And so there are literally, it's all over the news, all over TV, you know, Alex Jones, the nut is now saying Trump is covering up Epstein. And then the left will try to use it to act like I'm saying Trump's involved with Epstein, no. Because they go, well, we've demonized Alex Jones so much. We'll just tie it all to him. Like you choose Alex Jones or you choose Donald Trump. That's a mindless discussion.
Starting point is 00:42:01 As if you need to choose me or Trump, you can go back and remember what they said and what they did and what went on. And now how they've done a 180. It isn't about Alex Jones. It isn't about Ben Shapiro. It's about you. It's not about Tucker Carlson or Dan Bongino. It's about you.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You know, you saw. But notice. and we'll get to it coming up Shapiro's like all of you that went off half-cocked over the years had all your ridiculous theories about Epstein no he acted alone he wasn't an intelligence
Starting point is 00:42:35 he didn't have any help yeah we just have the U.S. attorney who prosecuted the case saying he was told he was intelligence go light on it and then we can also pull it up pull it up AP Reuters you name it gislane Maxwell's
Starting point is 00:42:54 little black book of clients the court said was suppressed to protect the clients in her show trial run by Maureen Comey, who also ran the P. Ditty and the Epstein and all of it. So there's just no evidence. All you that believed all those Epstein's over the years, and then he was doing blackmail and all the rest of this.
Starting point is 00:43:20 None of that's true. There's no intelligence connections because Dan Bongino says so. And if you don't agree with that, you're with Alex Jones. Gisling Maxwell's Little Black Book to remain secret after Judge Warns against needless name-dropping. Oh, it's needless to learn who's in here. But she's convicted of human trafficking, but you'll hear Shapiro say, no human trafficking. Because they put out a two-page memo and said so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And how do you expect us not to sit here and go, what in the world is this? I got to tell you. I think they thought because Trump, you know, so much support, has done such a great job overall and survived the assassination attempts on the lawfare that when he came out and said on, and they did all this, that we would just say, okay, but almost no one is buying this. And people are being told now, other prominent talk show hosts, I'm not going to name them, though some are going public,
Starting point is 00:44:32 you keep reporting on this, you're not going to have White House credentials, you're not going to get about an Air Force One. You're not going to blah, blah, blah, blah. The FBI is doing that. Why would the FBI put itself in a position of total damage control? Because Bongino and Patel and Trump were manipulated by people telling him, shut this down, move on from this, knowing it would create a firestorm. And now the deep state will come and say, don't worry, we'll manage this, we'll control this, we'll start censoring. We can protect you.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So they maneuver them into an unmitigated Shrizan effect disaster. and then out from under Iraq crawls the discredited Israel Firsters, Mark Levin and Shapiro and the rest of them, to say, Alex Jones just hates America. Alex Jones is an actor. Everything he says is fake. Really, everything I say, I show you. So let's remember what Trump did yesterday.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It seems like a thousand years ago with Pam Bondi to a very serious question. about U.S. intelligence, intelligence connections to Epstein, and then they just shut it down. That's old news. We don't want to talk about that. And then I'll show you right after the clip, the articles and documents with the U.S. attorney at the time, saying just that, and even in court,
Starting point is 00:45:55 and then later saying, I can't address that because it's classified. Go ahead and roll it. Cliff one. Thank you, Jeffrey Epstein. It left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency, the former Labor Secretary who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Costa, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the day? Yeah, sure. If I can... Can I just enter a little second? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time, and do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But you go ahead. Sure, sure. First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list, and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Also to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were. Never going to be released, never going to see the lighted day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every night. They redo that video. It's old from like 1999. So every night the video is reset. And every night should have the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's it on it. Epstein.
Starting point is 00:48:32 All right, Roger Stone and obviously Confident of Trump for 47 years, no pun intended, lives there in Palm Beach, constantly at Marlonago. Rand, Ebstine, knows all the players, knows the U.S. attorney. He didn't talk about this for 15 years, but I'll get to this next hour after he leaves us,
Starting point is 00:48:48 but we'll be with us a little bit in the next hour as well. When you got Mitch Shapiro out saying, see, no intelligence links, because of this FBI memo, we have the U.S. attorney that prosecuted him saying, He was in intelligence, and that's why they were asked to cover up and go light on him. So here are the articles.
Starting point is 00:49:06 No regrets in a very hard question. Alex Acosta defends Jeffrey Epstein plea deal in the article out of newsweek from years ago. Talks about how he was told U.S. intelligence or in intelligence. Here's another one. Jeffrey Epstein's six-story played out years in plain sight. Here it is right there. And, of course, Roger Stone recently put out this tweet, when Alexander Acosta, the U.S. attorney for South Florida,
Starting point is 00:49:31 who gave Epstein a pass on sex trafficking charges, was appointed Secretary of Labor. He was asked why he would say about his handling of the Epstein case if asked about it in the U.S. Senate confirmation hearings. Acosta said, I'll tell the truth that he worked for the CIA and the case was sealed at their request. And here he is then being asked about it and saying he can't comment. Here's the video.
Starting point is 00:50:00 One more question. Richard Lardner. from the Associated Press. Mr. Secretary, were you ever made aware at any point your handling of this case if Mr. Epstein was an intelligence asset of some sort? So there has been reporting to that effect. And let me say there's been reporting to a lot of effects in this case, not just now, but over the years.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And again, I would, you know, I would hesitate to take this reporting as fact. This was a case that was brought by our office. It was brought based on the facts. And I look at that reporting and others, I can't address it directly because of our guidelines. But I can tell you that a lot of reporting is just going down rabbit holes. A few more questions.
Starting point is 00:50:55 A few more questions. Have you asked a question yet? I have. Okay. How about that in front of you? Yes. Sorry. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:02 So, Roger, you have been right there at point-blank range with Trump for 47 years. And I hate to see Trump do things that I know we're going to really cause a giant strides in effect. It obviously has now. Patrick B. David and others, Tucker Carlson, are saying this is an unmitigated disaster. We're not saying that to make it a bigger disaster. We're saying it so that the ongoing disaster stops like you and I did two months ago, when Patel and Bongino were on Fox, like Deer in the Headle. lights putting out the same ridiculous garbage.
Starting point is 00:51:37 We said, look, if national security, whatever, you're going to cover it up, we don't agree with that, but shut up. And then now the pressure campaign from the FBI is happening to a bunch of prominent talk shows, I've talked to them. Some have gone public now. They're getting calls saying you're going to be basically kicked out of the White House. You're going to be Prasadonangra to them if you even have guests on about this. So this is not good, and it's starting to have a little bit of the Nixonian flavor.
Starting point is 00:52:02 to it, Roger. You were also there for that, the confidant of Richard Nixon. We got five minutes to break. We'll do 15 minutes of break. We'll do 15 minutes with this next hour. StoneZone.com. Thanks for popping on on short notice, Roger.
Starting point is 00:52:14 How do we deal with this? Well, Alex, first of all, it's interesting because we reported that Alex Acosta conversation on your show only days ago. And that was a non-answer. That's because Acosta said exactly what I said.
Starting point is 00:52:31 He said in my 24th, book, The Clinton's War on Women. The longest chapter in that book is on Jeffrey Epstein. And I name his clients, former Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, former U.S. Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell of Maine, former Israel Prime Minister, Elehood Barack, Stephen Hawkins, the scientist. And, of course, Prince Andrew. So we have to assume, first of all, the international pressure on the Trump administration not to engage in full disclosure has to be enormous.
Starting point is 00:53:10 However, I think this is really pretty simple. On July 8, 2019, under the Trump administration, Jeffrey Epstein was charged in Manhattan with two crimes. Count one was sex trafficking of minors, violation of 18 U.S. Code 1591, and conspiracy to commit sex. traffic of minors, violation of 18 U.S.C. Code 371. But those grand jury testimony is sealed. Also, the search warrants are sealed. Pam Bondi can clear the air here by directing the U.S. attorney, the acting U.S. attorney, the interim U.S. attorney in the Southern District of court, in New York, to go into federal court and ask the court to unseal those documents. They didn't indict this guy without evidence, and the evidence has to be within those documents.
Starting point is 00:54:06 When Cash Patel and Dan Bongino tell you they don't have the evidence, they're not lying, the evidence was destroyed by the previous administration. They can't give you what they do not have. But the court has this information, and they should move aggressively to ask that it be unsealed. That's a great point. And I don't know if you've talked to the president yet since this, Firestorm went into Higier yesterday with a statement at the press conference. But what do you think the president should do, simply call for the court records to be released?
Starting point is 00:54:41 Well, yeah, I think he should direct his attorney general, Pam Bondi, again, to direct the U.S. attorney in the Southern District to move in front of a federal judge to unseal all of these documents. They indicted Epstein on the basis of substantial information, it's a very serious indictment. And then you go to the second question of whether Epstein killed himself. We can start on this now, talk about it on the other side. But as you know, the New York medical examiner Michael Badden, probably one of the most respected pathologists in the country, a guy who's looked at a thousand hanging cases, examined Epstein's body and said that his injuries were not consistent with him hanging himself.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I don't know how you just discard that as a fact. We also know that two days prior to Epstein's death, he retained a new criminal defense attorney. David Schoen reached a retainer agreement with him on a Thursday to take over his criminal defense. In America, everybody, even the most heinous criminals are entitled to a criminal defense. And he was reportedly telling people like his brother he would be getting out soon. Stay there. It'll see 50 more minutes. I want to talk big picture with this.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And why you think Trump responded so angrily to this? being brought up when he'd been saying he wants the stuff released in the past. Stay right there. Roger Stone is our guest. Remember listeners, we can't do this without you and when you support us at the Allison Store.com, you keep us on the air.
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Starting point is 01:00:32 My big concern is who is advising, who is coming up, why is it good to have Bongino and Patel and Pam Bondi and now Trump going out and contradicting stuff that they said in the last few years and last few months? if if, you know, U.S. intelligence is involved, and they've hidden most of the evidence and destroyed it, and, you know, Trump wants to move on and try to, you know, save the economy and, you know, stop the current human trafficking, why not just say that? Why freak out on reporters? Why come out and wag their fingers at people and say,
Starting point is 01:01:06 you need to stop talking about this? I mean, anybody knows that if you tell people don't look into something or don't talk about it, I mean, that it's going to have the exact opposite effects. So great advice, hey, you've got him being indicted in New York. You've got the court case. There's the evidence there of the human trafficking. How can dislaying be in jail for human trafficking?
Starting point is 01:01:28 But now this new memo says that there is no human trafficking. I mean, this is just preposterous. What else should Trump do? I think he has to make a clean abreast of it. I suspect, this is speculation. I'm not going to say this on the air. But don't you think the Israelis, the best of the best, Brits, the Saudis, everybody else who has dirty laundry here is saying to Trump, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:53 this is, we can't have this out. This is very problematic for us. At the same time, he's trying to negotiate a peace deal on a World War III. I said, yes on my part. I haven't talked to him about this. Well, no, there's no doubt that's what's not a guess. Obviously, the entire establishment would come down. And so all these allies are bare minimum begging, you know, especially the British, do not release this.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I think that's a no-brainer. Why then come out and slap people around and say, stop asking questions? Look, I'm not sure. First of all, the presidents got larger things on his mind at the moment. He's trying to negotiate a peace deal both between the Russians and the Ukrainians. He's trying to negotiate a peace deal, obviously, between the Iranians and Israel. He's got a fragile ceasefire. the economy is cooking like never before.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I can only speculate. I'm not going to say this as a statement, but I suspect given the fact that a former Israeli prime minister, a member of the British royal family, among others visited the island multiple times. They weren't going there for the weather, that there has to be international pressure to make this issue go away. But at the grassroots, Alex, you knows that it's not going to go away. The president knows the American people deserve truth, transparency, and justice, particularly when it concerns those who think they're above the law. I don't think this administration has lost sight of that.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And I think he understands the gravity of the Epstein case. But there's a time to speak and a time to act. There are obviously certain ongoing operations, strategic, legal, international nature, that require patience and precision. and to prematurely release information, as I think Pam Bondi unfortunately did, has not been helpful. But justice delayed is not justice denied. It's just to be prepared. So what you're saying is right.
Starting point is 01:03:57 That's not just a cover story blaming Mondi for getting ahead of her skis. I mean, you think legitimately, from what you've seen, she heard about this stuff, talked about this stuff, and then it wasn't accurate? I think she just, first of all, I think that much of what she put forward, much of which was contained in my 2015 book, she was unaware of previously. So this was news to her. I don't think she recognized that most of the people knew who had visited some of the dignitaries who had visited the island and so on. I'm not sure she ever knew that Alex Acosta identified Epstein as a CIA. That makes sense. She didn't know the FBI had almost all those files already on their website for years.
Starting point is 01:04:44 She just learned of it. They go, here, here's the file, ma'am. And then she goes out and does that. But I want to finish you. And clearly she doesn't know that there's a signed cooperation agreement between Epstein and the FBI. It's almost poetic the products that we sell because, yes, they are the best. Yes, it is the best price for the highest quality. Yes, they are third party tested.
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Starting point is 01:06:19 You're print all over everything, Abel. They want to put me in prison. They want to put Roger in prison. They want to cut your son's genitals off, your daughter's breast off. We know they're the enemy. They're attacking ice facilities, shooting police, burning things down, barely even hitting the news. Democrats are openly in the news saying we want blood. Our constituents want blood.
Starting point is 01:07:19 We're going to start confrontations with the feds, so they kill a bunch of us. I mean, the Podesta Plan is now in action. I want to hit some of that with Roger Stone. and last night I shot a report when this broke FBI launches criminal investigation of John Brennan James Comey, DOJ sources tell Fox
Starting point is 01:07:38 news. And the first thing everybody asked was, well, is this to change the subject from the Epstein what looks like whitewash operation that's going on? And I said, I'm not sure but the timing's everything, but I said, regardless
Starting point is 01:07:54 we've been hearing this criminal investigation is going on. We've been seeing Trump call them out, and we've been seeing the documents released by the CIA last week from Ratcliffe that are smoking gun that Roger Stone and General Flynn and Trump and I live, so I know we first reporter on it, Roger and I in 2017, we figured it all out, before we knew the name, Crossfire Hurricane. And now you have the Director of National Intelligence, a few months ago releasing all those documents as well. This is open and shut. not just that oh they knew Hillary was cooking up a fake Russia dossier to election medal and they tried to have a coup once Trump was elected based on lies to call all his constituents Russian agents
Starting point is 01:08:34 not just the president and then persecuted us with the power of the state but that it was directed by Obama and by Brennan and Clapper and Comey the same Comey one month after he was put in in 2013 who then started a national security investigation or orders of Obama on meat That's not declassified. So, yeah, I need Trump to succeed. I need Trump to be the real deal. And there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm not going to be apologetic for any of it. We don't know enough, but there's a lot of international deals being made. I'm going to get into Epstein, the really hardcore stuff, and the firestorm over it with Tucker's Inc. and cause a revolution. Patrick McDavid, DeFium and Roger leaves us. But front and center, we need to take down the Democrat globalist crime syndicate that's stolen trillions of dollars and is funding radical Islam
Starting point is 01:09:21 and opening the borders and promoting pedophilia. And this is a big deal. Trump has said he wants prosecutions, not just to these guys, but a majoricus for human trafficking. So that's good. And I'll tell you what will make everybody, you know, really be happy
Starting point is 01:09:36 and also feel a lot safer, including Trump, who's the big target. They've already tried to kill him. You know it's these guys, is indictments of the globalist kingpins. And you and I have said years ago before Trump got back in, the main targets, the Trump should go after first,
Starting point is 01:09:50 is Comey, Brennan and Clapper. You get them the whole House of Cards false. So this is a big deal. Do you think this is actually really going on for my sources? I said months ago, in fact, you look it up. Alex Jones on X. There is a criminal investigation of Comey, Clapper, and Brennan.
Starting point is 01:10:06 You can pull it up. I have sources. And I said specifically, they're the first three that they're going after. You can find that. So, Roger, what do you know? Look, while I thought that the report by CIA director Radcliffe the other day was good, it was the most shallow reveal of the version of the truth. And I think it conceals a great deal and that the deep state still is protected.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I think it was done to preempt a far more stunning report by the House Intelligence Committee under leadership of Congressman Rick Crawford. Crawford's report is supposedly far more devastating, far more damning, but it includes classified documents that will require the declassification from the President of the United States. So this has been moving along on a parallel track. I reject this idea that this is being done to distract from the Epstein situation. I think the FBI investigation in Dukomi and Brennan is correctly based on this new CIA report,
Starting point is 01:11:23 but even that report, I think, is lacking. In fact, everything in that report had already been reported by the great Lee Smith, who wrote the plot against the president. Most of it were things we already knew. So the fact that John Brennan insisted that the Steele dossier, which was a Fogazi, was a fraud, paid for by Hillary Clinton was included in President Obama's intelligence
Starting point is 01:11:48 committee community assessment report was convenient because Obama was waiting for it. Obama knew it was a fraud as well. Andrew Weissman, the most corrupt prosecutor in federal history, knew all the way
Starting point is 01:12:04 back to his days as the general counsel to the FBI that the Steele dossier was a fraud. But they used it anyway. And I now think, and I continue to think, that Brennan not only did this, but he clearly lied before Congress about it. Now, since they charged me with lying to Congress, despite the fact that any misstatement I made to Congress was immaterial, none of it hid any underlying crime, Brennan should, at a minimum, be charged with lying to Congress under oath,
Starting point is 01:12:39 because he lied very specifically about the circumstances under which the Steele dossier was included in this intelligence community report. I think that it is vitally important that those who tried to destroy President Trump, tried to destroy General Flynn, tried to destroy me, tried to destroy you, Alex, these people should be prosecuted. And John Durham did kind of a half-ass job in his report. First of all, why did he take five years to tell us what we already knew? Well, that's because the statute of limitations, if it viewed narrowly, would have run out. And therefore, Hillary and Podesta and Robbie Mook and Jake Sullivan, as well as Comey, Brennan, McCabe, Rosenstein, would not technically be indictable, except the crime of treason has no.
Starting point is 01:13:38 no expiration date, has no statute of limitations. And I think that there's a broader indictment here possible against the ring leaders of the greatest single dirty trick in American political history, the single greatest abuse of power in which they use the full authority of the U.S. government, as well as the capabilities of our intelligence agencies, utilizing two fraudulent pieces of evidence, the St.O.D.S. And the false claim that the Russians hacked the DNC, for which there is no evidence or proof whatsoever. It's a figment of John Brennan's evil imagination.
Starting point is 01:14:22 So I think they need to be brought to justice. I think this is very important, not only to the president, but to the people in the country who will finally see that we have accountability and we don't have a two-tiered justice system. I was charged with lying in Congress when I didn't lie to Congress. John Brennan did lie to Congress about something quite material. He should be charged. Well, Clapper famously did. It said the NSA has never spotted an American citizen inside the U.S. And that they had no metadata collection program, which, of course, Edward Snowden proved, was a blatant lie.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I think General Flynn was the one who said it, but he's right. If you indict a Clapper, he will turn and tell him. justify against all of the other rats. Absolutely. In closing over at stonezone.com. In general, you've known Trump 47 years. From my sources of many others and just watching him, he's way more focused, way more Zen,
Starting point is 01:15:23 but also more, I would say, not even angry, just way more serious. And also very, very confident, I would almost call it fatalistic, and then he's committed to what he's doing. And I think a lot of what we're seeing now is that where whatever he thinks is the most important thing, whatever he thinks the focus is, he then gets mad at anything else he sees his distraction. Because when I saw that shocking press conference, we got so mad about the Epstein thing,
Starting point is 01:15:53 I said, wow, it looks like he really is upset about this coming out. But then I started realizing the last few months more and more, I've seen him on other issues where he's like, I don't want to hear about that. This is the issue. 3 in energy and jobs and the fentanyl on the border and the and so you know Trump well how would you describe the Trump 2.0 we can all see compared to the way he was before extraordinarily focused and by the way Alex he's right I'm not trying to minimize the upstein thing but a dead sex trafficker who's no longer exploiting and torturing underage
Starting point is 01:16:32 children. While it's important, it's not as important as averting world war, which is what he's trying to do in two different theaters. I'm not saying we shouldn't have full disclosure on Epstein. We definitely should. But when you consider the fact that we have 30 million illegals in the country, that's the number I think is correct, and we probably have sleeper cells in the country, and they brought a huge number of weaponry into the country, not to mention fentanyl, he's dealing with some huge issues that are hurting the country today. That God that Jeffrey Epstein is dead because he can't hurt any more children. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I'm trying to minimize it. But the president is focused on the big picture challenges to the country. And he's making very real progress, progress on tariffs. The biggest tax cuts in American history have just been extended. 88% of the American people will not pay taxes on their social, security payments, payments to them. We now have the funding for ICE and for the deportations, and we can build the strategic defense initiative, the Golden Dome, to protect our country from incoming ICBM.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Roger, I know you got to go. And now Bessette says they're set to get $300 billion now. The tariffs are working. But let me ask you about this. I mentioned this just brief a couple minutes on this. You have two ICE facilities in Texas attack, gunfire, cop shot, anti-Veterra. but the FBI will still not designate them as a terror group. You've got all these other Democrats running around.
Starting point is 01:18:10 There needs to be blood, Democrat lawmakers, to Laxios, that their constituents want violence and want to elicit a response from Trump so they can play victim and have a civil war. That's the Podesta Plan. What do you make of this, and there are no king's thing fizzling out to a great extent? I mean, but it appears they're still trying to get a civil war going.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I think they would be very, very unwise to test Donald J. Trump. You notice that unlike when we had the Antifa BLM riots during his first term, and he was persuaded to let governors make decisions about how to deal with that, as soon as you had problems in Los Angeles, he mobilized the National Guard. He also sent in the Marines. Those who think that they can mount an insurrection are going to see that insurrection crushed. The first responsibility of the President of the United States is to maintain order. That is his responsibility under the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:19:11 This president has already demonstrated that he will do that. So those who are planning violence, they better think twice. Donald Trump is not to be trifled with. He will be the law and order president, and he will maintain order and protect the American people. Roger Stone'sone.com. Thank you so much. Thank you, Alan. God bless you.
Starting point is 01:19:33 All right. We have Matt Bracken, Navy SEAL, counterterrorism expert, bestselling author, joining us in the fourth hour to talk about something that's not getting attention that I covered a lot yesterday and just covered for a few minutes. I mean, the Democrats and their operatives and their minions
Starting point is 01:19:49 are gearing up for mass violence. I mean, it's already happening. Imagine if Republicans or conservatives went and shot up two ice facilities and shot a cop, and that's barely in the news. and there's all sorts of stuff like this happening. I've got a big stack on that. That's fourth hour.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I'm going to have Kyle Serafen pop in for just 30 minutes the FBI whistleblower because he pointed out to me and I also got some calls. Some of the prominent influencers and talk show hosts that are, you know, getting calls from the FBI. Hey, you might get kicked out of the White House or whatever. You know, if you keep reporting on this, that is the dumbest thing to do ever. Don't start acting like the Democrats. And whoever's given the FBI the advice to do this, I mean, you're being set up.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Okay. Think about Watergate and the plumbers. That was a CIA deal to set up Nixon. So Trump's got to be very careful about inside groups and subgroups doing things supposedly in his name that aren't in his name. And remember this. What I'm saying now, mark this down. I need Trump to succeed. Believe me.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I mean, the deep state is coming after my ass. I need them derailed. I need them shut down. I need them in prison. and that's why it makes me physically sick to see all this happening. Now, I want to spend a little bit more time on the EBCN situation, and then I want to get into the military news. We'll play the new audio.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Trump, in new leaked audio, threatened to bomb Moscow and Putin attacked Ukraine, as well as Beijing. If they moved into Taiwan, Meanwhile, Putin sends message the U.S. with record 700 drones, missiles on Ukraine overnight. So we are off to the races there. Israel wants more strikes on Iran. That's coming up. And so much more today.
Starting point is 01:21:49 A bunch of big new AI developments. Trump admin walks back amnesty suggestion says mass deportations will continue. Well, they don't need to walk it back. Trump always said they do some worker visas for farm workers once they clamp down and made sure that they kick people out first. So, again, I keep seeing that as much to do about nothing. Again, that's just my opinion. But when I think Trump's doing something bad, I'll say it.
Starting point is 01:22:17 When I think he's doing something good, I'll say it. And it's just put a no-brainer that he can fire any federal employees he wants. And now the Supreme Court 8 to 1, it says, of course. So it's not Trump being the tyrant. It's the left. and they want to try to force him to act like a tyrant with mass uprisings. Now, back to the Epstein situation, the way they've had Bongino and Patel, and it's all unified front, Trump, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General,
Starting point is 01:22:47 come out in 180 what they said in the last few years, the last few months, and tell us, oh, no, he didn't even involve himself in trafficking, though, his girlfriend's convicted of it. He was indicted for it in New York and died. is an insult. And then he, oh, he killed himself. Look, here's a camera that doesn't even show his jail cell. So why are they out doing that?
Starting point is 01:23:06 Why are they telling us to shut up? And now the Democrats want to subpoena all this stuff. No, it's not to get it released. They could release it. No, it's because the deal's been made with the deep state to have them back off and then foreign governments and to get in line with Trump policy. And then they won't release it.
Starting point is 01:23:26 and part of the deal is they've got to come out and say there's nothing there so they're tied to it and can't double cross the globalist later the question is will trump just become the globalist now by doing this or will he continue the reforms and we know israel is heavily involved with epstein and the CIA and i'm told by very high-level sources that that's what this is is an internal fight over that file between those two groups u.s intelligence and Israeli intelligence and i think it's a wrongly clear if that's what's happening. So we'll continue to watch this as it unfolds. But for heaven's sakes, no more press conferences saying,
Starting point is 01:24:04 shut up, don't ask questions. All you're going to get is questions out of that. And I am really, really trying to not get the Trump administration to self-harm here. Okay? Please, please get your head out of that news. Please don't pour gasoline on yourself. Please don't blow your feet off of the shotgun. Please, please, please.
Starting point is 01:24:25 and I will always tell an organization, a group of an individual, my family, anybody I care about, I tell the bad guys all the time, give up, roll over, stop. I will tell you exactly what I'm thinking. Because support of Trump does not mean mindlessly when he's making major errors in my view
Starting point is 01:24:43 to support it. And here's Patrick Bet David basically agreeing with what I've been saying since Monday that this is in the last 160 days, 170 days now, This is by far the worst event out of the Trump administration, out of a wide spectrum of great things that have been happening. There is a reason why people are asking about this. This is by far, and I'm a supporter, three times I voted for this, man.
Starting point is 01:25:09 This is by far the biggest fumble of the administration they've had thus far. And here's the reason why. If you remember pre-the president winning, he had a conversation with Fox News, the great Rachel Campos Duffy, and she asked, Mr. President, 9-11, you. Yes. John F. Kennedy, yes. Epstein. He didn't say yes. He was a little bit hesitant of bringing that information out. Why? So why does his leadership team go out there and are like, we have this information and we're going to release this and cash? And let me tell you what we have with Pam Bondi at a state of Florida. She knew everything about Bondi about Epstein. Why are you fumbling this? Why are you not having an emergency meeting together to conversate and say, hey, we're going to be on the same page with messaging on this. All you have to do is send a message to everybody, say, God, let's have a conference call. Here's what we're going to be saying about this, because this was a very important issue to not 80% of voters that voted for president. I think 20% the voters wanted to know what's going to happen with Epstein, and it's a big letdown. Normally when I come, I give a very positive message. My only suggestion, no more fumbles.
Starting point is 01:26:16 You're having the greatest start ever as a president. There's going to be Nobel Prize, but a lot more than that. I believe he has a shot at going down as one of the greatest presidents of all time. and competing for some of the like top five type of list. But we have to have an emergency meeting and saying collectively, no more fumbles. This is all about Prince Andrew, and it's all about Ava Barat. I've studied this. Trump, he's not an underage girl.
Starting point is 01:26:43 He would never compromise himself. He's been outside this group. That's why they, he's always kind of an outlier who was able to come in at the very top and take over. And the question is, will he dismantle them or will he become the boss of them? And overall, he's dismantling them. That's why they hate him. So I'm cautiously optimistic here. But no, this is about Israel, and it's about the U.K.
Starting point is 01:27:07 And anybody who hasn't studied the royal family in pedophilia, I mean, they're more associated with pedophilia than bees are with honey than white is on rice, that water being wet. I mean, it is pedophile, Satan worship, human sacrifice, central. and that's just the facts. And so, yeah, there's a clip yesterday, another Patrick Beddibadcliffe where he has a well-known whistleblower. It's very credible and get her on.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Everything she says lines up with the M.O. I have about Justice Trudeau's dad, liking to kill kids. Well, it came out about Lord Heath and others decades after it was in the independent media that he was getting kids from Epstein, excuse me, from Jimmy Sevel, there Epstein, the top confidant of Prince Charles, now the King of, England, who did get found with the satanic dungeon dead kids, did get, you know, kids, they would say had died at the hospital, both teenagers, 5, 10, 6, 7, 8-year-old babies. They would go to these hospitals run by Satanist, and they would kill kids in the special
Starting point is 01:28:12 wings of the hospitals, say, oh, sorry, your kid died. No, really, Jimmy Sevelle and his buddies would come in and kill them. I mean, you can't make this stuff up, folks. You type it in, you'll have, like, BBC, you know, Daily Mail. I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable. Before all this stuff was online, though, I'd have like Ted Gunners and former head of the FBI in L.A. telling me this stuff. And he was super credible, but I didn't disbelieve it, but I was just like, really? He's like, yeah, they got auctions and underground bases in Vegas where they kidnap the kids around the world and sell them and they load them on private jets.
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Starting point is 01:33:43 Firestorm, because it's not going to go away. And this is how the public finally woke up to the international intelligence. satanic cults that have been around for thousands of years and basically founded the modern intelligence agencies we have. And then I want to talk about Ben Shapiro. This is a lot bigger than Ben Shapiro. It's about the methodology of how these disinformation operations work. And you know when Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin come out from one of their rocks
Starting point is 01:34:18 that they're working for Benjamin Netanyahu and they know exactly what they're doing and they don't want this Epstein situation looked into and they tell you like Shapiro does oh look the case is closed now there was never anything going on and there was no money oh it was reasonable to see if anybody was given Epstein money
Starting point is 01:34:44 you know from nowhere he just gets billions of dollars all these airplanes and mansions, but now that's all over, he acted alone. And it wasn't even human trafficking. Really, his girlfriend, partner in crime, is got convicted of human trafficking. So this is a big deal. They want this shut down.
Starting point is 01:35:05 And they're there running defense for the DOJ at a level that shows coordination, which again is the deal with Netanyahu and the Israelis that have been using Epstein to blackmail the U.S. to stop doing it and hand the file over to Trump. That's what happened. I said that Monday was my approximation,
Starting point is 01:35:27 because it was already going on. We already know the case. Then I've talked to a lot of very intelligent, dialed in people, and they say, Alex, that is exactly what's going on. And Trump thinks that the information that's in this comes out, it will derail the entire West and cause a political civil war. Well, we're already pretty much in one. And my view is these networks will just continue on.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Epstein was just one of many, though his clientele was, you know, top-level scum like Bill Gates. Of course, Bill Gates is, you know, wife admitting that. Yeah, Bill Gates claiming that Epstein was trying to blackmail him. Oh, but there's no blackmail because a two-page memo was put out by the DOJ that completely contradicts everything they said. We can't be in a position when they feed us rocks and tell us their strawberries. I used a nice analogy. I didn't say piss on us and tell us it's raining, though I just did. Crap on us and tell us to love it.
Starting point is 01:36:37 So just whoever's coming up with these ideas is setting up the Trump administration. And that's what Carl Serafin said on Monday. He believes it is because he understands how this works. And I agree with him. Again, Nixon was barely even involved with the plumbers. They did it on their own. he told him go get dirt on people. The CIA was running them.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Then they set up Nixon, who they hated. Then they got him through that. So Trump's busy, and he's got his people running around getting all this bad advice. And I'm not defending any of this by saying it. I just know how all this stuff works. And I know in general what's going on. I don't know all the specific details. Here's Tucker Carlson-Warns-Empstein case could spark revolution.
Starting point is 01:37:32 But how can you say that thousands of children were raped, but I'm not going to find out who raped them? Yeah. How can you say that? I agree. I agree completely. They said that. By the way, when Pam Bondi went on television said, I have a videotape of kids getting abused,
Starting point is 01:37:49 I didn't, I followed this case closely, and I know a lot of the people involved, as I told you, I had no idea. I didn't know that. Really, thousands of children got raped? Who raped them? Where are the rapists? Like, why aren't they in jail? This is the Department of Justice.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Yes. Yes. That is so crazy. This is honestly one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my entire life. And I just think it's very dangerous to play around with this stuff. Like very dangerous. I don't want a revolution. But if you wanted a revolution, this is how you would act.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Yes, yeah. Exactly. So for national security reasons and all the rest of it, I'm not defending that, but I can understand the argument. Then just say, oh, we're still investigating. And then investigate and make sure you can shut down the network. it's not still going on, like they're doing with the border and even trafficking there. They've really done that. Don't run around then and 180 what you said before and then get mad at people and say,
Starting point is 01:38:49 shut up about it, don't ask questions. Like Tucker said, I mean, you could not do a worse action. And I'm just watching the Trump administration self-harm. And I'm just sitting here saying, you're the lifeboat here. like we know the Democrats and the globalists are as evil as it gets we know it's 90 plus percent Democrats and leftists with the Epstein thing we know it's Bill Gates and all the rest of them why would you do this
Starting point is 01:39:21 and it's because they made a deal to roll over and stop opposing Trump you can already see it and they said oh just one thing we want you to join in the cover up with us so you'll never bring it out against us again we want you to say it's closed and there was nothing there and they give them a list of it. And then it happens. And Trump just thinks it's the right thing to do,
Starting point is 01:39:43 and he's got so much support he can do it. I mean, it's not like, I'm not up here telling Trump how to cover things up. I'm here exposing the whole thing, but I'm also saying, who isn't giving you people this advice? Because for heaven's sakes, if you're going to use the blackmail file in the deep state,
Starting point is 01:40:03 and you're going to do all that, then shut up. Don't treat us like we're saying, stupid because we're not. And then if you want us to go along with this BS, we then psychologically and spiritually become complicit, and I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I get the world's a rough place. I get this political decisions. I understand how people come to these conclusions, which I don't agree with. Though I've asked the question, how do you with hundreds and hundreds of prominent people raping children, including corporate leaders, bankers, academia, and government officials, how do you, how does the public
Starting point is 01:40:43 deal with that? Well, I just think we have to. because all the disruption, all the problems that will come out of that, are nothing compared to these groups continuing on and where they're taking us hell itself. Though they've got a lot of power and have threatened to sabotage things and they're not going to go quietly. That's another, it's like Napoleon twice. Had so many forces spread out that when he got beaten,
Starting point is 01:41:08 they said, well, let you have your own island. You know, a thousand people to take care of you. Just promise you'll tell your people to give up and give us your networks. but he didn't really give his networks up, and he gets put on an island, and then he comes back and takes over again. The next time they go, okay, you get 20 servants or whatever. And you're going way out the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Starting point is 01:41:34 So it's called capitulation. And in war and culture, you go to the other side. You say, I know you can cause a lot of problems. You know you're beaten. But you could drag this out for a long time and hurt a lot of more people. We'll let you get out of this with your life. We'll shut this down. We'll protect you, but you're going to be locked up on an island.
Starting point is 01:41:56 That's how it used to be done. Take the Germans. Two years before Germany finally fell, when five million Russians marched in, and they had the other allies on their flank, two years before that, the German High Command was already secretly talking to the Russians and said, all right, if we give up right now, can we just keep Germany? And the Russians behind the scenes are like, yep. and they tried to kill Hitler in Operation Valkyrie, and they failed.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It wasn't the German high command weren't Nazis. Wasn't the German high command? No, they knew they'd lost. The Russians, by then, were outproducing weapons three to one. They knew the U.S. was getting ready to invade. And so they said, all right, but they only get about half the German officers to be part of it. They wanted a new person to lead Germany.
Starting point is 01:43:08 they thought, well, who's as popular as Hitler? Only one person. Rommel, the Desert Fox. And, of course, right after they tried to blow Trump up in the Wolfslaer with the explosive, they placed it up against the big table legs, so it was deflected, and Hitler was hard to kill.
Starting point is 01:43:37 They learned that in World War I, blew him to the wall, but he still got up and went back to work, with his arm paralyzed. They then tortured the people they grabbed, and they said, yeah, it's a, Rommel, they went over to Rommel's house, said, get in the car, sign these letters, you endorse Hitler, we're going to take a ride down the street. They gave him his cyanide tablets.
Starting point is 01:44:11 So, yeah, I know this stuff goes on. And, you know, if Trump can really get the global to totally surrender and then not put them in prison for raping kids, as much as I would love to see him hang, I can say, yeah, said of them start in World War III or any release of a bio weapon ending the planet. Okay, you guys have all your power taken away, but we're not going to kill you. That's how war works. But we don't know that. And knowing these people, they never quit, and we're not even sure that's the deal Trump made.
Starting point is 01:44:49 We know a deal's been made. That's why this 180 happened. So the globalists know most of them that they've lost. They could see long term of the German high command that they've lost. So why would the Russians say, yeah, we'll stop here in the East. You kill Hitler. You pull your troops back. They would have followed through on that because they knew how much they were going to lose.
Starting point is 01:45:20 They lost millions and millions and millions more than most of them that two years. 67 million Russians, 24 million Germans. They only lost about half of them up to that point. so if the Germans could have killed Hitler you would have had 10 million plus Germans that wouldn't have died 15 million Russians that didn't die but because they couldn't get one guy 25 million more people had to die
Starting point is 01:45:46 so I understand pragmatism at that level but we don't know that's the specifics of the deal we know a deal's been made with MI6 with Mossad and this joint blackmail The five eyes are all involved in human trafficking, Dyncore, Halliburton, the UN, they've all been caught with the flights full of kidnapped women and children going back 30 years. You used to be in the news all the time. Last decade, they've shut it down because they control the corporate press totally.
Starting point is 01:46:26 So I'm going to stop war game in this a little while. It's just is amazing. I only hit Ben Shapiro in a second. But let's go to Jake Tapper having a heyday with this, because now the Democrats that are right to. center of this. They get to act all free and good and like Trump's covering up, and now the Democrats have sent subpoenas, and they want only the Epstein files and have Trump's name in it, if that exists. So see how this is the direction this is all going. Not good.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Go ahead and play the clip. So what's really going on here? I mean, what's really going on? Well, experts, such as our friend Julie Brown from the Miami Herald, who's been covering Epstein for years, say that the notion of Epstein having an easy-to-access cliently, list is likely a red herring. And that's what the Trump administration is relying on, that there likely isn't a list per se. But they are also now relying on the fact that because it's MAGA influencers who often put forward so many falsehoods, legacy news media won't push the point, that while there might not be a list, there are certainly files that can be released. There's a trove of information that the Trump administration is right now refusing to share information that
Starting point is 01:47:39 could well point to the powerful folks who availed themselves of the sex trafficking victims of Jeffrey Epstein. If you go, for example, to the FBI vault online, you can see that there are 22 files containing thousands of pages. Most of them are heavily redacted. No, sure, of course, redact the names and identifying characteristics of the victims. But why not make the victim and witness testimonies public? As Julie Brown points out, there's still so much we don't know from the investigations by U.S. attorneys in Miami and in New York, witness interviews in the U.S. Virgin Islands and New Mexico. Brown writes that there's still more evidence that hasn't been published,
Starting point is 01:48:16 including, quote, Epstein kept video cameras in most of his residences, and Epstein's autopsy, nor the report of the investigation into his death, has ever been made public. So while there may not be an official client list to be released, as the administration is now saying, there's a lot of extra information that is not being made public. Despite Trump's Justice Department, basically now saying case closed, this isn't going to go away. The public. You, you're being played for fools here.
Starting point is 01:48:46 So by Trump making this decision, he puts CNN, who lies more than Satan, in a position of truth. Everything? Dapper just says it's true. Like I've said years ago and months ago and Monday. It's a red herring to say it's a client list. They don't put that on there. Here's the client list of pedophiles. But no, where's all the video?
Starting point is 01:49:06 Where's all the hard drives? Where's all that stuff they hauled away on record? Where is all the reports and the indictment in New York? Like Roger Stone said, Trump needs to say, okay, case closed on the client list. But yeah, we should release this stuff out of the federal court and try to get that done, which the DOJ can do. Stop it. You promise to release the stuff, release it. I'm telling you, this is going to turn, it's already a huge scandal.
Starting point is 01:49:35 And I'm trying to get Trump to have this off at the pass. And if these intelligence agencies, he's told Trump, well, it's our allies, and we'll get all these alliances, this is the right thing to do. I believe the CIA gave Trump advice to do this. In fact, I know they did. And he's trusted them, and he's being set up now. Because I've studied it. Trump is not involved with raping kids, not his M.O. And they would have used it if they had it.
Starting point is 01:50:02 But all these other people like Bill Gates, who said he was blackmailed by Epstein, more like, he was using Epstein to blackmail scientists and others. They have got a lot to lose, and they don't want this coming out. And I don't trust him if they've told Trump they'll stop attacking his agenda. They're like Napoleon. You put them on an island. They still come back a couple times. I don't trust it.
Starting point is 01:50:26 I think it's very dangerous, like Therker also said, playing with fire. With me, just do the right thing, justice to be done me, the heavens fall. All right, yeah, there's the feds all digging through Epstein stuff. But, oh, no, there's nothing there. Oh, just like when they stole the election, you know, covering up the windows so you can't see what's happening. Huh. Yeah, there's no cover up. Just listen to Ben Shapiro.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Alex Jones made it all up. That was never any evidence. There was never any information. Here's Melinda Gates when she was leaving Bill, why she did it. Here it is. You know, it was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not. that that was very upsetting to you. Did that play a role in the divorce at all in this process?
Starting point is 01:51:20 Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing. It was many things, but I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein now. And you made that clear to him? I made that clear to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time. Did you? Yes, because I wanted to see who this man was. And I regretted it from the second.
Starting point is 01:51:44 I stepped in the door. He was abhorrent. He was evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards. So, you know, my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt. And here I'm an older woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It's awful. You felt that the moment you walked in. I didn't realize that. Yeah. And you shared that with Bill and he still continued to spend time with him? Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's relationship there was those are for bill to answer okay but i made it very clear how i felt about him mhm bill gaits said he met him once it was hundreds of times she went to see what he was doing and the hair on the back of her neck stood up she's an evil woman folks she's a eugenesis she's a globalist
Starting point is 01:52:31 she's distancing herself and now bill gates and all these guys larry summers they're all hoping that this just goes away silicon valley's hoping hoping. The Israelis are hoping. The British royal family's hoping. Because their fingerprints and their DNA, literally, is all over it. But here's Ben Shapiro saying, none of you ever had any evidence. There's no evidence. So you hear this memo says there's no evidence. There's just people in prison that worked with him for human trafficking. But that didn't happen either. Nope, your FBI said it. Trump said it. So you're either with Trump. And Bongino, or you're with that crazy guy who admits he's fake, Alex Scho. When did I say that was fake? Oh, well, CNN said, and the court filing didn't say that. But that's what they do. A intelligence agency talking point.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Here come the Israelis to the rescue. The bugle, the cavalry. Here comes Ben Shapiro. Here he is. We now have the answers. And the problem is this. People who never hedged their bets. who never at any point suggested to you that they don't have data to back up the speculation,
Starting point is 01:53:49 that the speculation was in and of itself, the conclusion that if you speculate without evidence, that that amounts to an actual conclusion to an investigation, they're going to be very upset today because it turns out that the DOJ and the FBI have concluded that Epstein didn't have a client list and died by suicide. According to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios. Now, again, does this put to bed like all inquiries? Of course not. People can continue to speculate as much as they want. And I think there's so open questions here regarding how did Epstein make his money. That's a very serious open question. The speculation
Starting point is 01:54:19 for a long time was he made his money from blackmail. But the DOJ and the FBI again run by people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi are telling you. They are telling you. I'm not telling you. They're telling you people who are members of the Trump administration, people you elected and put into these positions to get you the truth on this matter
Starting point is 01:54:35 are telling you that he didn't, in fact, he was not murdered, he did not keep a client list and he did not blackmail powerful figures. That is the thing that they are saying, not I, they are saying this. If you're willing to throw that over and claim they're lying, then I'd like to see you present your evidence that they are in fact lying, because I know Dan.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I don't think that Dan Bochino is lying to me. I know Cash Patel a little bit. I don't think Cash Patel is lying to me. There is, I don't know why. I don't know right there. Back in five seconds. What did Patel say on Rogan a few months ago? He goes, listen, Joe, you know me.
Starting point is 01:55:10 you can trust me. If there was any evidence of any other victims, we'd tell you, if there was any video, we'd let you know. And Joe's like, well, Bondi says
Starting point is 01:55:17 you've got 14 terabytes. Well, let's not talk about that. And you have all these court cases and all the, and people convicted in all this. And then his court case, the second one in New York, when he died.
Starting point is 01:55:29 As Roger Stone says, release that. No, there's no evidence. Believe these people because they've done a 180 now. and, you know, he's not an intelligence. So that's what's happening here. And out from under Iraq comes Ben Shapiro with others to attack me.
Starting point is 01:55:59 That clip's coming up. But that's all over the news. Alex Jones says there's a cover-up. And so there must not be one because, you know, he's Alex Jones. He's a guy that admitted in court. He's an actor. Everything's fake. Really, where's the transcript?
Starting point is 01:56:14 Where is it? Oh, his lawyer said. Oh, CNN said that. No, they tried to enter in a custody battle, me doing a Joker thing about fluoride in the water. I'm the Joker, I'm putting poison in your water. It's good kids. Drink it and die. Max's wife wanted to say, look, he's crazy.
Starting point is 01:56:30 My lawyer said that's inadmissible. That's obviously a parody. When Jack Nicholson plays the Joker, he's not really the Joker. By that extension, Jones admits he's a performance artist and everything's fake. And yes, when I was in Scanner Darkly or Waking Life, that I was invited to be in by Rick Linkletter, with Connor Reeves and others, I'm playing a part. When I'm up here, I'm showing you the clips, I'm showing you the articles. And he says, oh, there's no evidence, really, Gisland Maxwell, the federal, the judge in her case, run by Comey, said,
Starting point is 01:57:04 we're not going to gratuitously release the names of the people on the client list and suppress Gisland Maxwell's client list. Well, let's get that. You know, she's in jail now. She's in prison. Let's release that. But again, Ben Shapiro, there's no evidence that he was in intelligence or anything. Or he works with anybody else? No, we just have the U.S. attorney that ran the first case saying he was told go light on him.
Starting point is 01:57:27 He's an intelligence operative. And, you know, he's got that head of Mossad at his house and the Israeli prime minister over and over again. But nothing's going on. Nothing's happening. No, Ben Shapiro said we've never presented any evidence. No, Bongino and Patel have it put on any evidence. It's almost poetic the products that we sell because, yes, they are the best. Yes, it is the best price for the highest quality.
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Starting point is 01:58:29 We have to have the truth. We have to have freedom of speech. We have to have our rights because folks, we're about ready to go into an artificial intelligence war, into a space war, the likes of which humanity couldn't even dream of, even in science fiction. So please go to the Alex Jonesport.com right now, not just for your mind and your body, but for your species. I was hoping you had some of the Alex Jones ones. How is Alex? He was great. He lost a lot of weight. I saw he's getting like, yeah, he's ready for the next week.
Starting point is 01:58:54 My friend Sean Johnson's training him. Oh, really? Yeah, he gets up every morning. He works out for hours. He's lost, I think he's lost 70. pounds at this point. He looks fantastic now. Yeah. He looks fantastic. He looks like he's 20 years younger. People think, because this is really funny because, you know, his whole business is conspiracy theory. Conspiracy that Alex has been replaced. Yeah, yeah. Well, listen, folks, that's real Alex. I've watched every step of the way, and my friend trains him. So I can tell you, for a fact, that is the real Alex Jones,
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Starting point is 01:59:45 He was right about every step of the way. You are receiving this transmission. You are the resistance. The first love of Sapero, then into his attack on me. And again, this is a standards thing I've seen for at least 15 years. And this is all CIA, Massad, Intel run that creates the PR firms, it creates the PR stories on key political items. They demonize me.
Starting point is 02:00:52 They make me in this bad person with the general public. And then when the general public is questioning something, like Atrazine in the water, gender bending, they just show me talking about it. Go, look, he's crazy, so it's not real. And that's the tactic. So he's following exact tactics. And he noticed doesn't say what his source is that my lawyer says I'm fake. They said this thing about Tucker Carlson.
Starting point is 02:01:17 He never said that. Oh, Tucker Carlson admits he's a performance artist in a lawsuit. No, didn't do that. They just have these standard lies. And they do it over and over again. And it's a script he's following. It's loaded in his computer. And then he reads off tactics they use, and we know the playbooks.
Starting point is 02:01:36 Finish up. Go ahead. and he did not blackmail powerful figures. That is the thing that they are saying, not I, they are saying this. If you're willing to throw that over and claim they're lying, then I'd like to see you present your evidence that they are in fact lying, because I know Dan, I don't think that Dan Bochino is lying to me. I know Cash Patel a little bit.
Starting point is 02:01:59 I don't think Cash Patel is lying to me. I don't think these people are lying to me. Which means that if somebody else continues to claim that they're lying, they ought to provide their evidence at this point. and now is the point at which the facts on the ground have changed, and so either you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that have now emerged, or you ought to acknowledge that this was never a fact-based inquiry in the first place. Wow.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Then maybe Jeffrey Epstein didn't do anything, but maybe litter, maybe he threw a bubblegum wrapper on the ground. You have Bill Gates saying he tried to blackmail him. I mean, you have convictions for this stuff of Epstein and his girlfriend, whose dad was the famous Mossad operative that ran human trafficking of children on record. I mean, but he just says there's no facts. The facts have changed. We have a one and a half page memo that totally contradicts everything.
Starting point is 02:02:53 The Justice Department and Bongino and Patel and Bondi said, and I have the FBI agents that show me the evidence that, yes, they did send out the 14 terabytes in March to the FBI office around the country. And now we have a total 180 here. and we're told there's no evidence anywhere it's all closed even though we have all these other cases and all these witnesses and the unclosed case because he died of Epstein charging him with all this again
Starting point is 02:03:22 let's go to break and I'll come back and finish this some stations don't carry this segment where he attacks me this isn't about defending myself I got attacked all the time but again Alex Jones is a W.W.E. wrestler Alex Jones is crazy, and he has no evidence. When I just showed you the U.S. attorney, the prosecutor Epstein, the first time saying I was told he was intelligence, leave him alone. Slap on the wrist, which they did.
Starting point is 02:04:01 So again, you talk about mega, massive spin. And that last thing, Shapiro said, play the last 10 seconds again. So from these facts, these new facts, we have to think none of it was true. Oh, okay, great. None of it was straight. Hell, Abstein was a model citizen. Here it is. This point.
Starting point is 02:04:26 And now is the point at which the facts on the ground have changed. And so either you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that are now emerged, or you ought to acknowledge that this was never a fact-based inquiry in the first place. This was never a fact-based inquiry in the first place. And in Dislane Maxwell's trial that they limited it to only her. The judge blocked a little black book of clients. But there is no little black book. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:52 There are facts, Shapiro. We'll be right back. It's almost poetic the products that we sell because, yes, they are the best. Yes, it is the best price for the highest quality. Yes, they are third-party tested. It's almost poetic because as we advocate for humanity, what we sell to you is that which makes you or allows you to make yourself a better version of yourself. Whether it's getting the methylene blue, which helps you with focus and energy and mental clarity or ultimate life force, which makes your body healthier in so many ways I don't have the time to explain to you, whether it's the shilligin, that gives you incredible vitality or the ultimate burn,
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Starting point is 02:06:20 All right, I'm focusing a lot on this Epstein. Cover up, Firestorm. I'm going to a bunch of the news here in a moment. Because if you understand this, you understand how these Western intelligence agencies are on record, running giant human trafficking, child smuggling, sex slavery operations. And you're seeing it scale up around the world by the EU and NATO and the Biden administration, disappearing 350,000 children that they know of,
Starting point is 02:06:48 two sex traffickers and others. And now the Trump admin shutting down the border, shutting down the trafficking, finding many of the children, but because they're juveniles, those cases are being kept sealed, we need to find a way legally to get that out. I've seen a lot of good movement from the Trump administration on that. That's good, as they promised to do. But bigger than just saving the kids, and that's obviously paramount,
Starting point is 02:07:13 is it brings down the whole globalist network. I mean, you have the UN caught running huge child kidnapping rings. It's been all the news for decades. You've got AP doing huge investigation reports on it in Haiti. You got the Clinton's foundation head caught smuggling kids out. You've got all the human trafficking and organ smuggling and harvesting in Ukraine confirmed. Members of Parliament on the UK exposing it.
Starting point is 02:07:39 You have the CIA with the West German government from the 60s of the 90s, placing over 30,000 children with convicted pedophiles in a psychological test, taking them from Christian families. I mean, this is how this beast operates. This is its cult. This is its religion. And so if we've got a chance to go into one of its main tentacles and follow that tentacle back to the whole thing
Starting point is 02:08:03 and bring it down, done. But instead of Trump just makes deals these foreign governments in the U.K. Because our whole family is heavily involved on record. It gets a bunch of political power out of it. Maybe some of us for our good agenda. Isn't it poisoned, though, at its heart?
Starting point is 02:08:20 And that's the good scenario out of the bad scenarios. That's the least bad scenario. So you've got to discuss why there's a 180 and now this gaslighting spin for people like Ben Shapiro and all the others about he acted alone. was no human trafficking. None of the facts ever were real.
Starting point is 02:08:40 He didn't do anything wrong. People saying he did it just made it up with no evidence because of a page and a half memo the Justice Department put out. The totally contradicts all the real evidence and the trials and the convictions for human smuggling, trafficking. And the witnesses and all the Mossad chiefs and Israeli prime ministers covering their faces sneaking into Epstein's compound in New York. And Trump kicking out of Marlago, 1516. years ago for trying to pick up 14-year-olds. And Comey's daughter running the cover-ups of all these big cases, including Pete Eddy.
Starting point is 02:09:23 And then all they can do is try to change the subject. They do this all over the news, not just a superior. He's just one example I'm giving. And they're, well, you know, you can just trust Trump and Bongina or you can trust Alex Jones. The guy who admits he's fake. The guy that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:09:44 He doesn't give you any evidence. We do. Really? Evidence? You've given no evidence. of what you're saying is true. Just like the camera around the corner from the jail block or whatever. Oh, look. Here's a shot into the jail, though you can't even see the entrance to his jail cell. Look.
Starting point is 02:10:02 Oh, a minute's missing. Don't worry. We've shown you the proof. And then the coroner says he has his neck broken in three spots. His brother said he said he was going to be getting out soon. He hired a new defense lawyer a week before. Very optimistic. Hell, we were lied to so much.
Starting point is 02:10:20 Maybe he's in a witness protection. program and he's so alive. I don't even know. I just know we're being lied to. I know when a reporter raises that, Trump snaps at him and says, you shouldn't be asking questions about that. It's a problem. And, well, here's Ben Shapiro attacking me
Starting point is 02:10:42 with a script. Reading a CNN fake article from 12 years ago, it's self-fake, itself a lie, but he wouldn't even tell you the source, because he knows you wouldn't believe CNN. He's the same guy that says, take the COVID shots, enjoy the
Starting point is 02:10:58 lockdowns, never Trumper. But now he and Mark Levin and the Israeli operatives, they're the real manga and any of us that actually got Trump elected or were there at the start, we're the people you can't trust. Here he is. He has integrity. In fact, he's been called by some a prophet. Tucker Carlson literally called him a profit on his program. So actually, this is a person whose own lawyer made the case in a custody hearing with his ex-wife that he was a performance artist. This wasn't even the Sandy Hook trial where he tried to make the same case. His lawyers claim that this man of integrity is, in fact, a performance artist. Quote, he's playing a character and is nothing like his online persona. Attorney Randall Wilhite reportedly insisted in a Texas courtroom at a pre-trial hearing
Starting point is 02:11:43 ahead of the right-wing radio jock's custody battle with ex-wife Kelly Jones. Judging Jones by his info wars performances would be like judging Jack Nicholson by his depiction of the Joker on Batman. That's his own lawyer saying that. His own lawyer is saying that he was a performance artist. his wife was making the case that actually he's just unstable. Quote, he's not a stable person. He says he wants to break Alec Baldwin's neck. He wants J.Lo to get raped. His lawyer was like, no, no, he doesn't mean any of that.
Starting point is 02:12:09 He's a performance artist. Okay, so those are your choices. So I'd just like to point out once again, at this point, you can watch whatever you want. It is a free country. You can watch Alex Jones, you can believe Alex Jones, you can think Alex Jones. You're entitled to any of those beliefs.
Starting point is 02:12:22 That's fine. It's a free country. On a moral and intellectual level, it is not so fine. Because it turns out that people who consistently traffic in conspiracy, it turns out that people who consistently traffic in trash, people who spend your time, your few brief breaths on this planet, filling your mind with stupidity, playing a WWE character.
Starting point is 02:12:45 Listen, if you want to watch Alice Jones in the same way that you watch WWE, because you know that the WWE is people who are fake jumping on each other and you find it dramatic and interesting, you know, more power to you. But if you're watching WWE and you think it's real, that makes you the stupid person. Don't do it. Don't do it. Seriously. It makes you dumber.
Starting point is 02:13:05 It just makes you, in the end, you're responsible for the information that enters your brain and your independent judgment of that information. But if people are consistently being inauthentic, if people openly acknowledge that what they're saying to you publicly and what they say privately are two different things on the same matters, well, then maybe you ought to take what they say with a grain of salt rather than suggesting that, for example, Donald Trump is lying to you about Jeffrey Epstein, or Dan Bongino, with whom I am friends, is lying to you about Jeffrey Epstein, or Cash Patel, the head of the FBI, is lying to you about Jeffrey Epstein, because those are your only two choices here.
Starting point is 02:13:36 Either Alex Jones, as is usual, blew a conspiracy theory out of proportion, and so did the rest of the internet, or Dan Bonjino and Cash Patel and Donald Trump are all lying to you. Those are your choices. There is no third choice. There's a lot of other choices. You're lying. You just spewed a bunch of lies as if they were facts. you didn't actually go to the court record. You took a CNN thing where my lawyer went. This is inadmissible, this clip of Jones, playing the Joker.
Starting point is 02:14:06 And when he does that, he's doing a parody, just like when I was a gay frog, which is less than 1% of what I do. And actually, listeners love it. I love to have some fun, but I basically stopped doing it because in the media always takes it and says, that's really who I am. It's crazy. The last parody I did was like two, three months ago, before the Elon Trump split, it happened. I saw they were putting pressure trying to drive him out of the administration
Starting point is 02:14:32 internally and the left was attacking him. Soros was. So one morning we're sitting around joking around and we had some old props and stuff here. And I said, well, let's just do a quick video where I describe how they take out Trump's top supporters. They can take out his next top supporters like Domino's we all fall. Now, I mean, I guess my kids are grown up since you can't do a custody battle, but I guess hypothetically my ex-wife again could do if I had a kid that wasn't, you know, adult now, she could go and file an emergency court hearing and say, my ex-husband is insane. He believes he is the cookie monster. And he's attacking people on the streets. And he's insane. And then my lawyer would go to the filing and say, Your Honor,
Starting point is 02:15:16 here's the video. Please don't show it to the jury. This is Jones making a joke. It's very clear. This is not his serious part of his program. But here we are 15 years or whatever it is later. I got to do the Joker thing back under Obama like 15 years ago, but the custody battle was like 12. And here they are with a 12-year-old seeing an article not saying where it's from. So you can look it up saying Jones said he's fake. And again, think of the level of lying there. You can watch my show hour after hour, guest on, facts, clips, everything. Notice corporate media rarely shows you what they say somebody did.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Like Trump, you heard him. He says he hates all Mexicans. They're all criminals. Never said it. Trump said the KKK are great people. He said they were good people from both sides that came to just see the event. They were bad antiphon on one side and terrible KKK on the other, and I think KKK are terrible people.
Starting point is 02:16:01 They didn't show that part. That's what Ben Shapiro just did. So I have an eight-year-old with my second wife. Should the CPS come file and try to take her? Because, look, Your Honor, he thinks he's the cookie monster. He's insane. The judge's like, no, that's a joke. But you could misrepresent it, you see.
Starting point is 02:16:27 because my lawyer will have to file and say, Your Honor, this is not admissible. And the judge goes, yes, it's not admissible like Judge Norano did in my custody battle. Yeah, we won that motion. They tried to have a motion saying I'm a drug addict because they showed me smoking pot with Joe Rogan. That's just a ritual. I made a big pot smoker, smoke like once a year. And the judge said, no, him smoking pot in California, it's legal, is not admissible. There was a whole list of stuff is not admissible.
Starting point is 02:16:59 And on each part, my lawyer said, Your Honor, it's legal in California. It's part of the show. You have a drink, smoke a cigar, smoke some pot. the judge went I understand that makes sense dozens of things the judge said no no no no
Starting point is 02:17:16 we sit there for hours show the clip the judge goes really that's a parody that's a joke they played a gay frog clips he looks he's crazy she goes that's a joke
Starting point is 02:17:25 started laughing at me she was a good judge but the dozens of clips of me doing silly stuff saying look he's a bad parent look he's fooling you he's fooling you
Starting point is 02:17:40 he really thinks you think he's the Joker. He really thinks you think he's a cookie monster. But Shapiro didn't show you that. He just said, this guy admits he's a fraud. No, you're a fraud, buddy. Just like Rachel Maddow, I bet you took money like she did from Big Farmer to push the shots. I bet you did it. I don't know it. You're the fraud, bud. You're an anti-American.
Starting point is 02:18:03 Now, here's my latest parody from months and months ago. Right before Elon Musk got cut off from Trump, which has hurt Trump in America. I predicted it in a parody. Here it is. And now for something completely different. This missile is critical to bringing down America and the West. We had almost destroyed them, donkey mad.
Starting point is 02:18:49 But your party is too weak. It does not carry out your attacks on their children stronger. So we must undermine the main support system of Trump. And now I will show you how it's done. through our NGO that worse we will target Musk and Tesla
Starting point is 02:19:09 to get to Trump and then we can take down Musk and make them stop supporting Trump we'll target the next we're supporting in mind and widely we will destroy
Starting point is 02:19:27 and bring in our satanic petafile empire is that clear slave ladies and gentlemen there are a lot of items so you just saw an incredible attempt at deception. You just saw me try to
Starting point is 02:21:10 convince you I was something I wasn't. You want to see the famous Joker thing? And I know most of you understand that, but this is the level of deception we deal with. No, no one's buying this cover up.
Starting point is 02:21:27 And I'll talk to Kyle Sarifan a little bit about this, and then I'm on the table it for now because I got a lot of their big fish to fry. but Tucker warns Epstein case could spark revolution yeah it's really dangerous
Starting point is 02:21:42 it's really bad it's out of control we got some other big announcements Trump made at another press conference he just had do see do you want to see coming and bring them behind bars Trump I think they're very dishonest people that they're crooked as hell and maybe
Starting point is 02:21:58 they have to pay a price for that well yeah they do they tried to overturn elections try to impeach a president targeted his constituents any legal intelligence operation run by Obama. So, of course, they need to. And so, yeah, the timing yesterday with the firestorm over the Epstein whitewash gaslight fiasco, suddenly Fox News, oh, we're doing a criminal investigation of
Starting point is 02:22:26 Brennan, Comey, and Clapper. Well, I told you, you can pull it up. Four months ago, I was told by the Justice Department. I did hold pieces on it. They aren't a criminal investigation. So the story's not a fraud because it's already a criminal investigation. And Comey, Brennan, and Clapper know that. But they did release that it's official going on to change the subject, which is which I understand.
Starting point is 02:22:54 But you got to have the deep knowledge. You got to have the sources. You have to understand that. Now, it remains to be seen. They'll finally indict their asses. It's open and shut. But it needs to happen yesterday. Let's go to a clip of Trump of hours ago in the White House.
Starting point is 02:23:06 What are you going to say? Democratic senators now, Cory Booker and Alex Padilla have a new bill out. They want to require CBP and ICE officers to have legible IDs, and they don't want CBP or ICE officers covering their faces. Would you ever sign that? Well, they wouldn't be saying that if they didn't hate our country, and they obviously do, I'm surprised that they would do it, knowing a little bit about them.
Starting point is 02:23:31 I don't know them well. But these officers are doing a tremendous job. They're great patriots. If you expose them because of, you know, statements like have been made by Democrats and others on the left, usually, mostly, I think probably exclusively. You put them in great danger, tremendous danger. And it's sort of funny when people pick it in front of Columbia in front of Harvard and they have masks on more than masks. I mean, you can't see anything. Nobody complains about that.
Starting point is 02:24:04 But when a... James Comey and John Brennan, now under criminal investigation related to the Trump-Russia probe, do you want to see these two guys behind bars? Well, I know nothing about it other than what I read today,
Starting point is 02:24:20 but I will tell you, I think they're very dishonest people. I think they're crooked as hell. And maybe they have to pay a price for that. I believe they are truly bad people and dishonest people. So whatever happens happens. And now...
Starting point is 02:24:38 Now I'm going to be getting to this question Trump got when Matt Bracken joins us here in about 36 minutes from now, counterterrorism expert. Because again, we've seen exponential increase in violence against law enforcement, federal law enforcement, ICE facilities, ICE agents, since the No King's kickoff on June 14th. and you've seen the Democrat operative trying to go kill Democrats that we've been blamed on Republicans, according to him, for Tim Walls. And I'd say, maybe he's just crazy. And then you've got the wife running around a bunch of people with guns and passports.
Starting point is 02:25:17 And you've got the roommate the day it happens saying, he loves Trump and Alex Jones. But the point is that this is escalating. and you got Podessa's plan to trigger a civil war in this country. They're trying to do it. Will they be able to? Ducey says to Trump, do you think there's a national threat of left-wing militia that's targeting ICE and CPB?
Starting point is 02:25:47 Well, I mean, they just shot up and attacked two ice facilities and shot one cop in the last five days. I mean, most people don't even know about that because it's anti for doing it. can you imagine if a Trump supporter went and shot up a nice facility or a synagogue or whatever or a black church? Can you imagine if two of them happened and mobs of people just descending on ice around the country and attacking them and driving them out of towns? And people on TV going next time we're going to get them. And the view, we need to be able to fight and die. I mean, they want violence.
Starting point is 02:26:29 I show the Democrat headlines yesterday where we want blood. We demand blood. So that's coming up in the fourth hour, but here's a little prelude to it. Here is. Alvarado, Texas, a few days ago, 10 people wearing all black allegedly set off fireworks outside an ice office to lure the officers out so they could ambush them, shoot at them. They had guns and vests and two-way radios. Do you think that this was an isolated incident, or do you think there's a national threat of a left-wing, militia that is targeting
Starting point is 02:27:08 By the hit pause. They had another anti-mastal guy shoot up the ice facility in McCallin days before and shot a cop, critical condition. I mean, even the reporters, because it's not even in the news barely, don't even know this. I'm not mad
Starting point is 02:27:24 at Ducey, but I'm just like, go back to it. Two-way radios. Do you think that this was an isolated incident, or do you think there's a national threat of a left-wing, militia that is targeting ice and CBP? Well, I think you have some very stupid people in the left who have some money that are making
Starting point is 02:27:44 it available to these people, because you look at the guns they had, they were brand new, you look at even the clothing they were wearing, it looked like it just came out of some military shop. So you have some very stupid people that, if anything ever happened, they'd be the first to go. They don't understand that. They'd be the first to go. They'd be the first one's hit, but they are, there is money being put behind people when you look at the weapons they have, the newness of the weapons, rifles that just came out and they have the latest model. So there's something going on and we'll get to the bottom of it. And what do you think the penalty should be for these people who are, if they are found guilty,
Starting point is 02:28:24 for people who shoot at ICE officers? Very, very stiff, very stiff. A long time in jail, a long time. And one got hit yesterday in the neck. And he fortunately, it's going to be okay. But he got hit yesterday in the neck. No good. That's one problem of conservatives is we don't know how to complain enough.
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Starting point is 02:34:20 that gain of function, level four bio-weapon research was being conducted in even level two facilities illegally under federal funding by Barack Obama, including the development of the SARS-COVID-19, and Google and Apple, and we're all funding it as well. And when it came out, they were doing that. There was a big scandal. It was in the news. They then moved it in 2015. Yeah, there's one of the articles.
Starting point is 02:34:58 I covered at the time to Wuhan in a joint operation. with the communist Chinese so that when Bill Gates and Peter Dasick released it and had the vaccine are on the shelf, which we now know, they did, which we said back at the time, we now know five years ago. We first broke it.
Starting point is 02:35:16 Now all confirmed, they'd have plausible to that ability. Well, now this report, USAID quietly sent thousands of viruses to the infamous Wuhan lab. Yeah, we're all taught USAID
Starting point is 02:35:33 feed starving people. That's less than 1% of what they do. Does it stand for aid? The U.S. Agency for International Development reportedly shipped thousands of viruses to a Chinese military-linked biolab in Wuhan. U.S. AIDS sent 11,000 viral samples the Wuhan Institute of Arology over the course of a 10-year program under Obama, despite not having any full agreement with the laboratory. according to documents obtained by the Daily Color. The viruses were reportedly sent from China's Yunnan province to Wuhan,
Starting point is 02:36:16 the infamous epicenter of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic, with the exporting being funded by U.S. aid, means the CIA, which seemingly failed to devise a strategy that would prevent the samples from becoming bio-weapons and staying accessible to U.S. government. They want that for plausible deniability. So think about that. And again, I already knew the story before I read it. They're like, hey, do you hear about this?
Starting point is 02:36:56 Oh, USA and CIA? Oh, of course. We already know what they were doing. And they proliferate, just like Obama, in his second year in office, billions in Ukraine, to take over the Russian labs and expand them. And that way, when this stuff gets released, the globalists want to release it for control. They go, oh, it came out of Ukraine. came out of Russia, came out of China.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Notably, the Lulon Institute of Aerology lacks adequate biosafety. These articles about that. Why did they send them somewhere not safe? They sent them there show that the signature of the weapon can be blamed on somebody else. Good God, people.
Starting point is 02:37:38 Exclusive. US aid quietly sent thousands of viruses to Chinese military-linked bio-lab. Here's the documents. You know, what would happen to you of you did that? They've caught, you know, Chinese, definitely Chinese intelligence, has been getting arrested, three of them the last month, trying to sneak in weaponized mold.
Starting point is 02:38:03 So this is what they're doing. It's all part of their larger plan. USA quietly said thousands of viruses, the Chinese military linked bio lab. But it's still like, oh, now we're just admitting it was man-made. Now we're just admitting it came out of the lab. We knew that in February of 2020. with the great Francis Boyle and others.
Starting point is 02:38:39 Now, for the balance of the time we have left, and Matt Brackett's coming on with the leftist gearing up their domestic terror networks, attacking ice facilities, you name it, is Kyle Saravan, former paramedic Air Force, individual FBI counterterrorism of Kyle Sarafershow.com.
Starting point is 02:38:59 Dotlocals.com, Kyle Seraphon on X, callserfisho.com on Rumble of Carl Seraphon. I wanted to get him on, and I was already getting these calls, last night this morning, but he sent me some of the stuff on X, and I talked to people that this happened to separately, who are
Starting point is 02:39:13 last night getting calls, yesterday getting calls from the FBI that, you know, give them information, but also, oh, you're at the White House, you've got press credentials, you're going to be cut off if you don't stop talking about the Epstein gaslighting bizarro event happening. So, Kyle,
Starting point is 02:39:34 I appreciate you got you five minutes in the next hour, I'm glad you're able to connect with us. Again, we're hoping Trump's successful. We're not here rooting against him. We're pointing out this PR disaster. Yeah, Ben Shapiro and their usual suspects running around saying it's case closed, a page and a half memo. There is no evidence evidence of any type. Shapiro said there's no evidence.
Starting point is 02:39:58 Epstein never did anything wrong. Now, I know his girlfriend got convicted of human trafficking, but we heard from the FBI. Didn't commit suicide. No human trafficking. No blackmail. No other people. I mean, and Trump snapped at the press conference yesterday. We saw that bizarre spin by Bondi, which was amazing.
Starting point is 02:40:16 You talk about Streisand effect. Her also said this is the danger of triggering a real revolution. Pattern. David's flipped anybody with a brain. I hate seeing this self-harming by the Trump administration. But since we talked on Monday, the consensus has formed that this is some type of backroom deal with the Mossad, MI6, the U.S., and it is too damn. damaging to come out. And so now we're supposed to just stop talking about it. Well, then they should have just stopped talking about it instead of making it a thousand times worse. This is turning into the mother of all Streisand effects. You sent me some videos to go to as well. We also have reportedly a criminal investigation now launched into Comey, Brennan, and Clapper during the firestorm. I was told four months ago and reported that there was criminal investigations going on by someone with the Justice Department. And so I don't think it's a total lie. that they just did it to cover up the last story,
Starting point is 02:41:08 but I think they reported it to change the subject. What do you know you got the floor of Carl Serafin? Yeah, well, first of all, it looks like a complete cover-up with the announcement of investigations, the fact that Fox News is going to go out there and push their piece, and you're hearing them say that they're going to investigate Comey and they're going to go after Brennan and all this kind of nonsense. You know, unless they have a capital offense,
Starting point is 02:41:30 which is basically not a realistic possibility, these are not prosecutable investigations. Alex, you know this too. When they want to go out there and do an investigation, they investigate you, period. They don't tell you, they don't warn you. There's no press release. There's no like leak it to Fox News digital so that they can go out and have a favorable headline when you're having a bad yard day.
Starting point is 02:41:55 Because Google gives you a notice that you've been under investigation. Or you have to respond to a grand jury. That's right. This is exactly correct. There's an indictment. You get subpoenaed and you're made aware of it. or you're arrested, that's how you find out that there was an investigation. This sort of messaging saying, we're going to be doing it, and I love it when they always
Starting point is 02:42:13 use the word probe for some reason, probe seems to be like a Fox News word. But when you want to go out and announce that you're going to investigate, that is 100% deflection, trying to get attention on something else, please follow the shiny object, follow the squirrel, follow the laser pointer, take your pick. It's not real. You don't do investigations like that. And by the way, like the Fox News piece says that it's going to be over purported. surgery, statute of limitations is five years.
Starting point is 02:42:39 The criminal code that defines this as 18 U.S.C. 3282, non-capital offenses. The statute of limitations on these guys is over. They got out of office in 2017. So what are you investigating them for other than please, please, please don't pay attention to our big screw up here. And like you said, it looked like they were trying to release this thing in a quiet way. There was initially sort of that movement to axios. There was this sort of, can we put it to a left-leading,
Starting point is 02:43:06 so that all the MAGA influencers will push against it and soften the blow of this thing. And then Donald Trump went out and said, what looked like the quiet part out loud to me? He said, you know, we got a big thing in Texas. We've got this tragedy. You know, it's right down the street from us. So we know about it. How dare you pay attention to the fact that we're going to shut down a campaign promise and something that was the subject of an executive order?
Starting point is 02:43:27 Trump actually said that this stuff was supposed to come out in executive order. And then you got the most incompetent response by Pam Bondi. The one thing I do see, and I don't know if you've talked about this, but I'll just say it because it's unpleasant for people to hear it. There is a concerted effort in traditional media and also in sort of the con ink, whether it be a Ben Shapiro like the clip he just played, whether it be Megan Kelly or anyone else that's associated. They are desperately trying to not smear Dan Bongino with this like hoop storm. You know, it's going to get everybody sloppy and stinky. The question is, is can they save Dan? because in theory he could go back to a media career.
Starting point is 02:44:05 But his hand is part of this. He's the director. I mean, he's the deputy director of the FBI. He's running the show there. And he talked endlessly about Epstein and all the things that needed to be done. There are entire podcasts that he did that were dedicated to this. So you keep seeing people say, I trust him and he's a great guy. You never do anything wrong.
Starting point is 02:44:21 But maybe Bondi is crap. Or maybe Patel is garbage. You don't get to just pick and choose who gets to have the, you know, the crap fall on them. But you are seeing this concerted effort to try to protect it. I'm also seeing another thing, which you may not be aware of, but there are folks in Washington, D.C., who are in the press. As you said, they're getting calls from the FBI saying lay off. The other thing that's happening is there's a concerted smear job going on against guys like me and guys like Gerardo Boyle, who you've referenced many times, my friend, Steve Friend, Marcus Allen, and all the guys that came forward that are not public, that are in the whistleblower space, that for years were the heroes telling people the truth about it. And we're not partisan in per se.
Starting point is 02:45:00 Like, I don't, I don't, if Trump is wrong, Trump is wrong. If the GOP is wrong, then they're wrong. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not on a team and I'm not registered for any of this stuff. But what I do know is, if you go out there and make up lies about me, then that must be pretty damaging the things that I'm saying. And they are currently saying that I got word from someone who's a pretty, pretty well-connected guy in the political sphere. He said, I heard a story that you shot someone. And you and I could both just laugh about that because if I shot someone, you know I'd be in handcuffs.
Starting point is 02:45:25 If I shot at someone, I'd be in handcuffs. That's not a real thing. if you're a federal agent or after that time. And so this is all nonsense. So we're dealing with smears on people that tell the truth. You're getting this redirection attempt. And you said it to me this morning. I told my wife, because it was too funny.
Starting point is 02:45:40 You know, they tried to release this thing like a fart in church. And they didn't get away with it because it squeaked really, really loudly. And so the strides in effect you're pointing out is obviously the case. It's totally damaging. This might be the, as Tucker said, it might be one of the worst rollouts of anything. I think we've got a clip of Mike Howell talking about this is a class on how to not do it. Now let's go to that clip of this is a class on how to not do it. Here is the mile clip.
Starting point is 02:46:10 You guys gave me that clip. You came in and gave it to me. Well, maybe we don't have it then. Yeah, well, worst case scenario, I can tell you. So Mike Howell is, he represents the oversight projects. They're affiliated, at least they used to be. They're a spinoff from the Heritage Project. He's a legitimate conservative.
Starting point is 02:46:25 He calls out, you know, quote, quote, our team when need be. And he said, if you were going to basically teach a class on how not to do it, you would do it with this. He points out a couple of really important things. Number one, this was a joint memo, which is not very common in the D.C. area. And if you have two agencies that are jumping on board and throwing their logo at the top of the memo, one of two things is happening. Either it's a really good piece of news. And my agency and your agency both want to take credit, so we put our names at the top.
Starting point is 02:46:51 We both have it. In this case, it's DOJ and FBI, joint memo. The other possibility is that nobody wants to take credit. So I'm not going to eat this sandwich by myself. That means your name's going on there, too. so you get two people so everybody gets a little bit of the smear. And then what you don't normally see from these things is an unsigned memo releasing a finding.
Starting point is 02:47:10 This should have either a deputy attorney general signed off on it. It should have an assistant attorney general who's in charge of the criminal division. You know, whatever it may be, there should have been a name or a department associated with it. When they leave them unsigned, it shows you a huge degree of cowardice. And we got a lot of that stuff during COVID. So, you know, a lot of this stuff keeps getting mitigated. Well, listen, work with me on this because, you know, you're just. just came on. I love our guest, but you'll send us
Starting point is 02:47:33 a bunch of articles and documents two minutes before. I'm not mad. The crew has all the clips. They just don't know who Mike Howell is. And so I'm like, go to Mike Howell. So just look here with me, Kyle. Let's go over the clips you sent. We'll produce here on air right now. A red shot. Is this Mike Al? There is. This is the clip you want. Okay, we have this.
Starting point is 02:47:49 Let's talk about the other ones. So these are the things you sent us. It's all very interesting. Actually, let me tell you that that one you just picked up. If you go back to the, to the Washington Times piece, this is just just inside kind of information here. The piece is written. It's not as important what it says that, you know, FBI launches criminal investigation. It's a scoop. What's important is the source and the actual writer. So,
Starting point is 02:48:10 if you'll notice the byline there, it's Carrie Pickett. Carrie Pickett is an, I'll call her an acquaintance of mine. And she's the person that introduced me to Dan Von Gino. So I know she knows Dan well enough because they used to, they used to talk in the background and they connected the two of us together in the first place. So Carrie Pickett is a soft and friendly source for the FBI to leak this information. And again, I just told you, that information is obviously bogus because you can't go after Comey for anything that's not capital, and there's no indication there's a capital crime there. So just that's the reason why that story is relevant. The headline is almost all of it. And the byline is actually as important as anything else. But that Mike Howell, in his own
Starting point is 02:48:46 words, you know, he's an attorney. He's been around D.C. for a long time. He's worked in and out of government and in oversight now. It's a useful clip if you guys want to hear people in his own words. Well, we do have the Mike Howell clip from the oversight. project again, tell us who this guy is? Who, Mike is? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, no, he's an attorney. He used to work inside the federal government. He worked for one of the agencies, and I can't remember what it is. Again, now he's
Starting point is 02:49:11 associated with the Heritage Project and what they call the Oversight Project, which is a subset of Heritage Foundation that does specifically... So here's his response to this, here it is. I think you could teach a class on the worst rollout attempt to end a controversy in the history of the United States.
Starting point is 02:49:29 Like you have on Sunday out of nowhere, holiday weekend, a two-page memo just shows up in Axios in the evening. They're like FBI and DOJ said nothing to see here. We've all seen the memo by this point. That begs instantly way more questions than it ever even purports to answer. And there's a couple massive red flags with that memo. First is joint memo. You guys have been in D.C. There's only two reasons why you ever have a joint memo between agencies or anybody else.
Starting point is 02:49:57 Two reasons. They want to share credit. Everyone's like, get me on that. I want to share credit. Or it's like, I'm not signing that alone. Let's share the blame. So you can take your guess as this one is. Speaking of signing, no one signed it.
Starting point is 02:50:10 For something of this magnitude, something that all of the principles of the relevant agencies have spoken about at length, we as the American people deserved an explanation from them directly. Not an unsigned one-and-a-half-page memo. Now, a couple more things that really grinding my gears. The memo gratuitously and without reason forecloses the opportunity for more government investigation into this. There is a line in there that couldn't have been written by Bill Gates' lawyers any better. That's how I read that. I said, no, why would the government ever put that in?
Starting point is 02:50:44 It looks like it comes from the lawyers that the people could be implicated. And here's what it basically says. You can look for yourself. It's about halfway through the first page. It says, we could not find any evidence that could predicate any government investigation. of third parties. So if later on you wanted to go and say, hey, Bill, like, what were you doing at Epstein's Island all the time?
Starting point is 02:51:03 His lawyer says, actually your own government said you don't have the legal authority to do that. Why include that? They're trying to close the book. And then, you know, lastly, the biggest thing. The whole point of why people were upset about the government's, you know, lack of activity as it relates to Epstein was the lack of activity. And so what this memo says is, hey, you know, we looked at the existing files in our control.
Starting point is 02:51:32 We did a survey. We went and just looked at the files that we already had. Of course there's nothing in there. Of course, the whole thing is the government, the FBI, DOJ, whoever didn't actually investigate this with any bigger. Let alone if they did, are we to believe that like somebody wrote down the worst possible things and just saved them in the FBI's like system? come on no one in this country is that stupid and so people are offended that is just an insult to their intelligence and also one of the big reasons why they supported this government to take over
Starting point is 02:52:04 from the Bidens and that is a promise of transparency and actual accountability and look I'm not here to say I have all the answers to the Epstein files no one no one around here does but I do know those things I just said are are absolutely wrong they should not have been done and I think that's evident by the fact that no one would put their name to it and that everyone's just trying to sweep this under the wrong and it's turned into a huge conflagration and it got way worse. You know, class one would have been on the memo.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Class two of our, you know, symposium on the worst comms rollout ever is today in the cabinet meeting. You have, you know, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and I'm trying to pick on her, but she said, I don't even know if he was owned by intelligence or if there was any intelligence community activity here. I forget the exact phrasing. but she said she doesn't know and she'll get back to us.
Starting point is 02:52:54 How can you expect the American people who want to answer from their government as to what was going on with EFSI and all these rich people that were, you know, flying down to a place, the huge sex trafficker, pretty, you know, obvious red flag there? The biggest question in the assumption people have is, okay, this guy probably had an intelligence community connection if he didn't get prosecuted. And for the AG to say, we looked into everything on Sunday and there's nothing there, and then to go in front of the entire country today and be like, well, I frankly don't even know if you as an intelligence, you know,
Starting point is 02:53:21 just doesn't close the book. It reopens the book. How can the Attorney General not know that? And so it's a shame. It's a shame. And I hope it doesn't become more of a pattern. Well, Mike Hal, the Heritage Foundation, is very impressive. I want to get him on the show.
Starting point is 02:53:36 I'm glad Kyle Serafin sent that clip to us. That is really illustrative how everybody sees it, how we know it, intellectually, and feel it, and spiritually feel it. And just watching the greatest fiasco so far, I mean, This is the biggest black eye of really Trump's first term and then even now. And Tucker has said that. Petter Ben David has said that. I think you've said that. I've said that.
Starting point is 02:54:02 I mean, this is a big deal, folks. This is the Trump admin in the worst maneuver ever the way they do it trying to get us and all of us in bed with Ben Shapiro who said, basically, Epstein did nothing. That's what this proves. Off of some flimsy memo that basically gives a. limited investigative pardon to everybody
Starting point is 02:54:27 implicated with Epstein. He's put a finer point to what he was talking about there. Yeah, I mean, you like that? I mean, the fact is he's saying it looks like it was crafted by someone like Bill Gates's lawyer, someone that's looking to be able to say, hey, this is exculpatory for us
Starting point is 02:54:41 that they did an exhaustive search. And then he goes into the bigger piece, which I think is exactly what you and I have actually talked about previously, Alex, which is that it only matters that you looked in the file if the file was actually rigorously and aggressively pursued in an investigative way. And if it wasn't, if you have nothing in the file, who cares?
Starting point is 02:54:58 I can hand you an empty file right now and say, look, this is everything I have on you, Alex. You look and you go, well, there's nothing there. I guess I'm good. That's not real investigation. But we also have Trump in the press conference saying, as I said Monday, he's behind it, I want this shutdown, stop talking about it. It's over, which is what the legal memo says. I mean, that's what this is.
Starting point is 02:55:15 So why do they want it closed? I think that there's also a secondary piece of it. I think they want to close because they don't want to mess with it. And I think it's ugly. And there's a decent chance that Trump, you know, you and I may differ in opinion on this one. You think that he's using the tool. If that's the case, that's the worst capability ever. Dancing with the devil, literally using the devil's tools to control evil people is a,
Starting point is 02:55:39 you don't bet on the good guys winning on that. So I'm kind of hopeful that that's not the case. And I don't really deal in hope. What I do think is that these people were advised by the worst possible actors inside DOJ and also the same thing in the FBI. Most of the middle management there are looking for a Dan Bonino to fail, looking for a cash Patel to fail. And you're saying that the Palmer's really set up Nixon. I think you might be right. I'm 50-50 now. I think these people are setting them up to fail. They said this is not as big a deal as you think. All we got to do is talk about it. You can see this being downbriefed, Alex. If you came in and I showed it this morning, hey, President Trump, by the way, we shut down the FD investigation. It was nothing there.
Starting point is 02:56:16 He's out there looking at World War III in Russia and Ukraine, and he's looking at a peace deal that happens in, you know, Iran and Israel. He's got a million things. He's trying to figure out whether or not he's going to have the same Federal Reserve chairman and so on. You know, he's got 20 things up there that are all high-level importance. Someone tells him, we shut down the FD thing. We didn't find anything there. He goes, great, no big deal. They didn't go, hey, sir, by the way, the people who voted for you that really wanted that executive order are going to lose their ever-loving minds if you say that an elite pedophile was able to get away with it and that we are proving that there is a second system of justice in America. that the rich and the elite and the powerful and the corrupt can get away with hurting babies and nobody cares. If you told him that, he might be like, holy crap, like, you better take another look at this before I go talk about it. And I don't think that's what they did it.
Starting point is 02:56:56 I think they slow-played it. They under-briefed it. And then he goes out there, and he actually probably was surprised that people were asking about it. Because, you know, he's not on social media the way that guys like you and I are. He's just not. Yeah, very well said. Well, I'm just extremely concerned about it all. And bigger than this, the only thing bigger than this for the American people right now,
Starting point is 02:57:17 it's obviously economy and the border and war and all that. But if we don't see indictments of the deep staters, of Brennan of Comey, of others, of Clapper, then I think pretty much what you've been saying from your experience is that the deep state is still in control. Let's come back at two minutes. We've five more minutes to get to finish upon that. Then we're going to look at Leftist Terror with Matt Brack and this gearing up. Stay with us. It's almost poetic the products that we sell because, yes, they are the best.
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Starting point is 02:59:51 transmission you are the resistance you got no wind to hold no wind the full of back and down the broadcast hour number four here Kyle Sarah for only five more minutes with him
Starting point is 03:00:08 very respected FPL whistleblower so much what we know about the Bidens of the Obama's and the persecution of American peoples because of him and no boil and others and now they've been hung out to dry by the DOJ. Kyle doesn't want his job back, but O'Boyle does, highly decorated veteran, you name it. They call them a hero, but now not the time of day. It's another bad sign, and I'm just your tongue like it is.
Starting point is 03:00:31 But I want to be very clear. I agree, because I've studied how things work, you were inside of it, that it's the briefers and how they manipulate the CIA, the FBI, all of it. That's a whole science of the deep state. When I say Trump's going to use a blackmail file, and then you're like, well, it's just so horrible, it's so out of control. They don't know how to deal with it. They got so much going on.
Starting point is 03:00:51 The agencies don't want to go up against themselves, so they won't enforce it. That's true. I'm not saying Trump himself is going to be over with a blackmail file. They tell Trump we're just closing it, and it won't be Bongino or Patel that are running it, but those permanent deep staters, those permanent bureaucrats, they will continue on with the file now that they got and grabbed from the Democrats in New York that they've now got and the other goodies. I mean, I think that's a no-brainer.
Starting point is 03:01:15 This information will still be floating around for some time. So I'm saying it's a mix of what we're both saying. Yeah, and I honestly, I mean, if we're being totally clear about things, this tactic is effective. That's why people have used it. They've used it for all of history because people, you know, shame still does hold some power, at least for now. And so if you have the ability to use a tactic, it doesn't go away because of the person who was using it. The one thing that I heard my wife said this morning and it made me start thinking again, it's like, who was running Jeffrey Epstein and you think there's not another one of those guys?
Starting point is 03:01:43 out there and why is nobody clamoring for the people that were running it? We hear about the client list and the people that he was servicing but we don't hear anything about the folks that were above him which is of course if there was an intelligence collection we already know in 2008 that the FBI made positive contact with him and helped him
Starting point is 03:01:59 get a light sentence on his on his sex offender charge down in Florida. So these are like non-negotiable. They happened you know saying whether he was a government agent or not. There's always a word game that gets played in there and I saw that happened with Pam Bondi and I saw my I have agents and assets.
Starting point is 03:02:14 And sometimes the boss is an asset because they're not on the books over the so-called agents. That's right. And listen, everybody uses different terms for it, which is part of the way you get away with doing this stuff. That's why you're never going to get a perjury conviction on a Jim Comey. You're not going to get Brennan on any of this stuff. And again, the statute of limitation has expired on this. I did want to kind of, we brought a clip in from Fox News when they were breaking their version of the story. And the Fox News little clip shows you that they're excited.
Starting point is 03:02:39 And then you just look at the experts they brought on. They brought on a columnist from the Wall Street. journal and they brought on a couple people that run a podcast. They didn't have anything to do with any of this. It's just, it's so simple. We can look at the way to do this. Let's do this. Let's do this.
Starting point is 03:02:53 Because Bracken's cool that he can come on about 10 minutes because I want to hear from him. But let's go out to break with Bongino. Suddenly all of this is forgotten. I want to come back, play the Fox News Club and finish up. Look how happy Bonino is, by the way. In that clip, look how happy he is compared to what his current shop is. He looks like he's dying now. And then the bigger final question about all.
Starting point is 03:03:13 all of this. Well, we'll get to that in a moment, but here's Bonjino. A year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox, and I'm not going to say who, because they didn't give me permission to share it, but the show is a story, but not who they are. Says, you know Epstein's an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right? I'm like, no, I didn't know that. I'm like, you sure of that?
Starting point is 03:03:35 The person, let's say, is like, I'm absolutely sure of that. That he's either a winning or unwitting asset, intelligence asset, meaning his plane and that island, the cameras, there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein. That's a huge mistake. The reason they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh yeah, Epstein had him. No, he wasn't the only one who had him according to this source. These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense. Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know, but this person who's a very, very good reporter.
Starting point is 03:04:13 I mean, Aces, right, swore Epstein was either a winning or unwitting intelligence asset, and they may have had his plane wired up, and they're the ones who have all this stuff. So the point is, to sum it up, how do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions? He wouldn't want this video out there, right? How do you know? 100%. I don't think Vonjean is a bad guy, but more and more. I think he's kind of like a boxer dog.
Starting point is 03:04:38 He means well, but he's not that smart. Look at this. I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence, leave it alone. That was the U.S. attorney that prosecuted EFSI for the first time. Of course he's intelligence. The Triple Agent Mossade, MI6, CIA, his wife or your girlfriend, Gisley, Maxwell's dad, ran the franchise for God's sex. I have some very exciting news. Optimal Human is, hands down, the best green superfood, supernutriot concentrate I've ever had. The folks that Bigley have had this out for years, and it's their star product, and it became,
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Starting point is 03:05:53 Be sure become a subscriber and get special discounts when you do that. Rallying Patriots worldwide in defense of human liberty. It's Alex Jones. So, Cole Serifan said something when he first came on 30 months ago, that I'm pretty mad at myself I didn't notice. And then when he was talking, I was searching it. And, you know, there it was. I mean, I knew he was telling the truth.
Starting point is 03:06:25 But I was just like, God, why did I miss that? And it was just like with the, you know, Russia gate investigation that, you know, and they took five years to do it because that ended the statute of limitations. The Durham investigation had Roger Stone on second hour talking about that. And so yesterday I shoot a video in the afternoon after this breaks. And I'm trying to be friendly to the Trump administration. So I give them the benefit of the doubt, even though I say, looks like they've announced through Fox News their mouthpiece,
Starting point is 03:06:55 that they've launched a criminal investigation on Comey, Brennan, and Clapper, for the Russia Gate and, you know, for creating this attempted coup and this destabilization and election meddling. They've released it today because the firestorm over the Jeffrey Epstein case. He didn't even, you know, have a crooked toe nail, as Ben Shapiro said, looks like he was totally innocent, just nothing ever happened. Sure, his girlfriend's convicted of human trafficking,
Starting point is 03:07:20 but he wasn't a human trafficker. He didn't have any accomplices. He wasn't blackmailing people. There weren't any other Johns. He killed himself. I said, hopefully that's not it. You know, hopefully pigs fly. Because I was told that there was criminal investigations going on
Starting point is 03:07:35 for Justice Department people before, and they were like, we can't tell you about it, but maybe it's some of the new things they've done, you know. They explained that to me. And they said, that's why we're interested in your case because they got sloppy with it. And I'm like, great. So we've sent that information on.
Starting point is 03:07:47 these are pretty high-level people that have good records. But then I just, sometimes I think I'm smart, and then I miss the most obvious stuff. You know, the little stuff, but then the big obvious thing you miss. You're kind of retarded. I told you a row in years ago. The Statue of Limitations is over.
Starting point is 03:08:04 And they're even in the Fox News leak that it's perjury and stuff, not, if I saw treason or I saw espionage or, you know, or how they work with China, we now know, in the Senate report, which we said back at the time in 2020, to bring in the mail-in ballots and all that, you know, if I saw treason, but no, it's perjury and stuff. It's open and shut.
Starting point is 03:08:28 It's over just like Durham and I dropped the ball. Kyle, elaborate on that, and let's play this Fox News clip and I'll let you get out of here. But that is the old of the room. This is certified stunt horseshit. This is certified stunt horseshit. The statute expired long ago, years ago.
Starting point is 03:08:46 go literally. If they were serious, by the way, Alex, there's a way they could have done this seriously. If they told me they were opening investigations into Christopher Ray and they were going to go after Merrick Garland, by the way, I gave them everything they need to prove, or at least to start the allegation, the criminal complaint, to go in and say, okay, we have a credible allegation. This was Kyle Seraphon's
Starting point is 03:09:03 whistleblower activity, October 2021. Merrick Garland committed perjury under oath. If you want to go after perjury charges, which are kind of weak, do it. I told them that we had a juxtaposition of Merrick Garland saying under oath, they would not use counterterrorism tools against parents at school board meetings, and less than five days later, the FBI's counterterrorism division put out the famous thing that made me no longer
Starting point is 03:09:25 have a job. And it was Jim Jordan's people that went forward with it. So you got a, like a smoking easy option there to start pursuing it. All you need to do is pull emails and decide if he had four knowledge and if he actually colluded to do so, and maybe you get him for conspiracy as well and anybody involved. The second piece of it is Chris Ray. If he was involved in stopping any of the prosecutions, if he was doing any malfeasance, they would go after Chris Ray. He's still within the statute. The statute of limitations is five years for non-capital offenses. The last time they went after a treason case in the United States, I think, was either
Starting point is 03:09:54 1952 or 1953, and Eisenhower actually commuted that sentence. So the last time you had a legitimate prosecution for treason is like during the post-Civil War era, it's not a current law that is being used. So for anybody that goes, well, what about this? It's not happening. They already told you the people who cannot be convicted, who can't even be legitimately charged under the statute, because 18 USC, the 18 USC code forbids them going after this right now. So this is all performative in the same way that Cash Patel went out today, and it seemed to take credit that the FBI has created a positive law enforcement environment, and that positive law enforcement environment somehow has lowered the number of on-duty deaths by police officers. I'm really thankful that police officers are not dying at the same level they were last year.
Starting point is 03:10:43 There's 50% less. The FBI has zero to do with it. The two most common causes of death on duty are gunfire from adverse actors, so you got a bad guy shooting at you, or traffic accidents. The FBI has zero relevance in any of that, but to claim credit for it, just like they're claiming credit for the murder rate, everything is distraction. We're going to go after Comey and Brennan. We're going to go out there and lower the murder rate, even though the FBI, by and large, does not investigate. murder and has no meaningful effect on murder rates. By the way, all the stats are juiced.
Starting point is 03:11:13 We were complaining about it under Biden, but now they're legit because it's our FBI. It's all BS. This is smoke and mirrors. And by the way, I do know about that. Starting with Biden, they suddenly had all the major blue cities. It was like over 800. Stop reporting crime
Starting point is 03:11:27 statistics. So of course you're going to have lower crime if there's no statistics. And what's even funnier is that you heard Bongino and Patel go out there and claim it. They were like, wow, we're doing such a great job. Murder is going down. They're doing it based on quarterly reports, which are the least accurate reports, because Alex, you probably know this.
Starting point is 03:11:42 Some cities only report annually. They don't give quarterly updates. You know, they just do it once a year. Here's what our stats are for the year. So they're always going to be low. They always adjust upward at the end of the year. And by the way, violent crime in general across all categories has been trending downwards since 2020. That's just an American trend right now.
Starting point is 03:11:58 And it's great. And by the way, homicide rates going down doesn't always mean that law enforcement's doing the best job or that everybody is stopping and murdering each other. It means that the emergency rooms and the surgeries we can do and the medical miracles that take place in those emergency suites and trauma medicine is increasing at a rate that is amazing. A lot of the battlefield tactics and things that were learned in the war on terror for the last 20 years are now making it into ERs and they're making it into street medicine. So there's a lot of reasons for these things to act like the FBI has something to do with the murder rate going down. And you would know about that because you've been in EMT as well.
Starting point is 03:12:29 All right. Amazing. Yeah, I spent 10 years as a paramedic. Is this not like this is, this is, there are always multi-factor analysis. When they give you the simple answer, you know they're lying to you. I mean, your audience knows that too. I've been told that by doctors and people I know, and they just say the knowledge from the wars is incredible. It's insane. I mean, look, people used to tell you, like, in my lifetime, it was a death sentence to be able to put a tourniquet on somebody to stop bleeding.
Starting point is 03:12:53 It is the default position for a serious bleed. You do it now as a default position. If you have a serious bleed, it could even be venous bleed. It doesn't have to be arterial. They will tell you just, if you're losing a lot of blood, put on a tourniquet, there's no downside to it. And as long as they get to you within that day, they're going to be able to solve the problem. They know how to mitigate the effects of it. It used to be that if you put a tourniquet on, you thought you were losing that limb.
Starting point is 03:13:15 So people would do it as a last resort. And a lot of people have died from it. But tons of lessons have been learned from the war on terror in the emergency medical field. And the best thing is, is you got a bunch of former combat medics and so on going out on the streets. Some of them are now cops. And they know some of the lessons of self-aid and buddy care that are taught in the various different armed forces units. So, yeah, that was the thing that I did. I did see this stuff actually flow in.
Starting point is 03:13:37 I was in emergency rooms in Tucson, Arizona in 2012 where they didn't have tourniquets on hand to stop bleeds of people coming in with massive leg lacerations. And by the next year, of course, they're putting them on right away. And you know, you saw people die. And then you saw people not die from those injuries. So you cannot underestimate that or try to act like the FBI had anything to do with a lowering of the murder rate. When people live, they call it attempted murder.
Starting point is 03:14:00 And they don't, they don't categorize it the same way. Wow. Anyway, it's depressing to me to see these guys lie because it tells me they're not doing a good job. And it also means, and you know this too. These are media guys. Patel, Bondi's been around media a lot. She's been on Fox an awful lot. Bonino, obviously, as well.
Starting point is 03:14:14 They're media, which means they're savvy, which means they know they're lying. They know they're trying to spin. And they're being run by PR people, which is exactly what a senior FBI supervisor told me the other day. The FBI is currently being run basically like a social media influencer camp. And they're just getting moved by the waves and the waves of like the, the public. public opinion that they send out on X. Well, I can give me advice if they're going to cover up Epstein, shut up. I mean, that's not right.
Starting point is 03:14:37 Yeah, that would have been the best move. All right. Kyle Sarifan, very interesting. We just, we'll just move forward. Thanks for talking to us. Yeah, you bet. Thanks, Alex. All right, let's get Matt Bracken on.
Starting point is 03:14:49 I apologize for getting him on 14 minutes late, but I had to finish up with that. Look, here's what's going on my brain. All I can do with viewers and listeners is just tell you what I'm thinking, because when I'm cutting around something in, issue. I know what I stand for. You know, Second Amendment, pro-life, national sovereignty, you know, anti-nuclear war. But Trump's doing a lot of good, and then I'm certain to see some bad, and I'm kind of having thoughts. Am I spending too much time on this ever seen fiasco or not enough?
Starting point is 03:15:18 And I think I'm spending a lot of time on it to get messages up to the Trump administration, which we know they're watching, and the FBI, whoever's setting you up to do this stuff, you need to fire them. Because you're doing the dumbest stuff I've ever seen them. You just saw the Heritage Foundation say, this is a really smart club. This is the dumbest thing they've ever seen. That's what I've been saying since Monday. I mean, good God, I want the Democrats leadership dismantled.
Starting point is 03:15:41 I want their ass in jail for the crimes they committed. I need you to win. I need you to succeed. And we know the Border Patrol and ICE is under attack. And we know they're gearing up all these attacks. And we know that they've got some really nasty plans here. And I see a lot of good messaging out of Pam Bondi and Cash Retail and Bonino. And I know Trump hires people
Starting point is 03:16:02 of loyalty, smarts, but also being good on air. Look at Egg set. I think he's a very competent, nice guy. Like him, good-looking guy. Combat vet, you know, I think he's a good choice. But at the end of the day, it's because he's on Foxx. He was an articulate. That's why Trump put him in there.
Starting point is 03:16:19 And hopefully he's got all the right advisors on these areas. But now I see the Trump administration making radical self-harming moves with the Epstein action, and it makes my blood go chill. All right, Matt Bracken, bestselling author,
Starting point is 03:16:37 researcher, former Navy SEAL, counterterrorism experts, Enemiesfarren Domestic.com put his ex account up as well. We've got it for the next 44 minutes. I apologize to get him on late. Matt, I wanted to get you on since last week about the scaling up of leptus violence,
Starting point is 03:16:54 the attack in McCallan, the attack in North Texas, ice being attacked in the streets. If they go into any, legal alien gathering. They call it a school camp, which it's not. I wanted to get you on about all of that and what we've seen since No Kings and your research in Intel now with some hindsight on the bizarre Minnesota actions and the supposed shooter saying he was doing it for Tim Walls. They try to immediately blame me and Trump with his witness the first day. I mean, it's got all
Starting point is 03:17:22 the hallmarks. And then what you're getting is coming next, but I want to table that until we go to break. Front and center, and then I also want to hit Russia and the escalations there that big and where you think that's going. But first off, because I haven't talked to you, I just have to appreciate you on. What do you think about the Epstein behavior we've seen from the administration? And what, again, if they were going to cover it up for national security issues, I still don't think that's right, but you can, you know, too many powerful leaders.
Starting point is 03:17:51 We're making deals with foreign governments. We're kind of using the file of what we want. That's injustifies the means, and I wouldn't do it, but I can go, oh, yeah. But why come out and literally try to create the biggest strives and effect you ever could with that bizarre press conference in Bondi and the things they're saying on this memo? I mean, and Trump's saying it's over, close it. What do you think or what do you know is going on, Mad Bracken? I think that I listened to Kyle Serafin carefully and I agree with the PR social media aspect running the. FBI, you know, taking credit for the murder rate dropping and so forth.
Starting point is 03:18:33 But I see a strong Israel hand in this. I really do. If the FBI seized all of this information, terabytes of information, and Epstein was his brownstone and the island were, you know, Mossad, Honeypot, and he was the front man, these were honeypot traps, then it's reasonable to assume that they were picking this information up. you know, like it would be picked up routinely. It wouldn't just be like physically left in the brownstone to be collected by the FBI and nowhere else.
Starting point is 03:19:09 So even if Trump ordered all of this to be destroyed, okay, just burn it. That doesn't mean that Mossad doesn't have it. And you have to, you know, look at the background of the key players here. Cash Patel is very, very strongly pro-Israel. The other day he has a quote, you know, we have to. We have to get people to prioritize Israel. Dan Bongino, I watched his show for years. He's not a neocon, except when it comes to Israel.
Starting point is 03:19:41 You know, he's for like, you can level Gaza. Anything after October 7th is justified. So, and somebody that's not as often mentioned is Susie Wiles. She is the ultimate gatekeeper. When you talk about who's allowed in and who's, not. You know, why is Tulsi Gabbard at the children's table practically in the next room at the meeting yesterday? You know, there were pictures where like, where's Tulsi Gabbard? You have to find the right angle. She's a furthest person out in the corner. Well, Susie Wiles actually worked for
Starting point is 03:20:16 Benjamin Netanyahu's 2020 campaign. She lived in Israel. She worked for Netanyahu. As far as I'm concerned, you can split hairs on, and Kyle mentioned this. Sometimes you'll actually have an asset who is given a senior position, but he's controlled by a junior, you know, on the real side. Susie Wiles, as far as I'm considered, is Mossad. I mean, you can say, no, Matt, she's clear a break. You know, that was when 2020 she was working for BB Netanyahu, but now she's not. Well, only people that are getting to Trump right now are very strongly pro-Israel. Nobody else.
Starting point is 03:20:58 I've talked to a lot of people. He can't even get an appointment. And I mentioned this the first of the show. I've talked to a lot of Dalton people inside the administration, you name it. And they said, no, that's it. They said there's a war over power in the administration by Israel and the Patriots. The Democrats still have their Antifa and their leftist NGOs and their operations, but they've been sidelined pretty much so far.
Starting point is 03:21:20 But now Israel sees this a weakness and is swooping in to basically take control the administration. Is that what you're saying? Definitely. And we see this with, you know, with the recent 12-day war, credit to Trump, where he's great at naming things, nicknames, and he really seized the moment by giving it the name. Does anybody that is going to break the ceasefire would be wrecking his narrative that it's a 12-day war. But the fact that he participated in a sneak attack, we might say, yeah, this is really clever. you know, if this is great, we just, but as far as I'm concerned, what we did was very dishonorable.
Starting point is 03:22:00 In some respects, it was worse than the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, in that the, you know, the Japanese and American side were negotiating right up to Pearl Harbor, but, you know, in the hours before the attack,
Starting point is 03:22:15 just to, you know, diplomatically cover their bases, they broke off negotiations instead of, but they, what, in this case, case, we are actually negotiating. The negotiating team is saying, like, is thinking, oh, next Monday, we're going to continue these negotiations.
Starting point is 03:22:31 The Israelis sent their, you know, ninja assassins in and actually not only killed generals, killed scientists and their families. If it took a rocket through a window, they just killed the family and or just shot people as they're leaving their house in the morning and killed the negotiators that they could find. Trump was very schizzoid about this. When you kill negotiators, that's a war crime. And it's ultimately totally
Starting point is 03:23:03 self-defeating. It's an own goal, especially to laugh about it, like Trump did. He said, yeah, we were going to be negotiating with some of these guys next week, but I guess they won't be around. Ha, ha, ha. That was when he thought that Israel was on a total role and was going to wipe out Iran didn't work out that way.
Starting point is 03:23:22 So if you kill negotiators in the middle of negotiations, who's ever going to sit and seriously negotiate with you? I mean, I listened to Roger Stone. Well, explained in the law of war, you come with a white flag to negotiation to parlay. You never kill the ambassadors. And like you said, even the Japanese, a day before Pearl Harbor had enough honor, they pulled them. Right.
Starting point is 03:23:47 And said, you know, the negotiations are over. and implied that a state of war was the next step. But in this case, we were negotiating with the Iranians. America was negotiating with the Iranians. Oh, the news brags. Oh, we got them to all think they were saved by thinking there was a deal. And now that that takes Trump power away because usually he's a straight shooter. Now he's, that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing major departure of normal Trump behavior.
Starting point is 03:24:13 And right. And for this to happen, I was listening to Roger Stone. and Roger is like a very strong Trump ally and a friend for many years, so I get it. He was putting the best spin on it. But saying that Trump is trying to negotiate a peace between Ukraine and Russia, to me, is ridiculous today. Number one, we don't have the leverage. We don't have the weapons. We're a side player.
Starting point is 03:24:38 This is like Britain saying they're negotiating. We're not a main player in Ukraine now. Russia is going to continue rolling forward. slowly but while attriding the Ukrainian side. The Russians have the manpower, have the factories, Ukraine can't replace the manpower, and we're so low on our war stocks
Starting point is 03:25:01 that they say, oh, Trump flipped in the last day, but Trump's saying we're going to send more, it doesn't increase Patriot missile production, right? I mean, we're down to, like, practically what they call Winchester ammo on things. Things like the standard missiles that the destroyers fire to protect Israel. Well, it's also what the destroyers would have to fire to protect the carriers or protect American cities. So if you have to fire four of these things at every ballistic missile coming in from Iran, the math doesn't work for our side.
Starting point is 03:25:39 It's like the Houthis. You know, if you have to spend millions of dollars of missiles to shoot down a $100,000 drone, the math doesn't work in the long run because the other side can just keep it up. By the way, the Houthis are now demonstrating that they can block these shipping channels. Houthi staged second deadly attack on cargo ship at two days as Rebel Group releases complete video of attack sinking magic seas.
Starting point is 03:26:05 And so they're demonstrating that they can engage in these embargoes, basically, blockades. A way of looking at this is this is all part of the same war. and it's like stepping on a balloon. You know, you squeeze it in one place and it squeezes out in another place. So for the time being, the 12-day war is over, there's no actual ceasefire. It's just a virtual ceasefire. It could begin again at any time.
Starting point is 03:26:30 But the Houthis are showing, hey, U.S. Navy, come on back and play. You know, and I heard a figure, it's like $250 a week to keep a carrier battle. $250 million per week. It's like a billion dollars a month. for a carrier battle group. So if rogue outfits like the Houthis, you know, on a shoestring budget can cause Uncle Sam to burn billions of dollars and deplete our war stocks that if we ever had to fight China or Russia, we wouldn't have because we just don't have the production. Well, you make a Trump saying five days ago, we've got to stop shipping weapons to Ukraine. We're out of weapons.
Starting point is 03:27:09 And he goes, we're going to go ahead and do it. Well, I think that Pete Hegseth is listening to the, you know, to the counters, you know, the weapon counters that are just saying, look, we don't produce enough. We're making, you know, we're using it, we're using months worth of production in days. So the politicians are saying accelerate war, the actual war fighters are saying stop. We can't. We don't have the ammunition. If the 12-day war continued for a month, we'd have nothing. And the Iranians would just continue to fire ballistic missiles.
Starting point is 03:27:47 And the thing about a ballistic missile, it's very important. It sounds simple, but as opposed to, say, a cruise missile or even a supersonic cruise missile, that almost anything can knock it down. You deflect it. It'll go into the ocean. A ballistic missile is like a cannonball. Okay. Once it's launched up in the air, it's coming down near the target. It's not, it's like the, in Armageddon, the movie, you know, you're not going to like knock that meteor out of
Starting point is 03:28:17 the path so it deflects away from Earth. It's still going to hit Earth, right? So the mis, the payload is still going to hit Tel Aviv. It may go off, explode high water, or it may not, but the kinetic damage from it is still going to be great. So if you have to fire, you know, $20 million worth of missiles at every ballistic missile coming in from Iran, they can keep that up for years and we can't. And now Israel wants the U.S. to strike again as cooking something up. Let's come back and talk about this with Matt Bracken. And we'll also look at leftist terror groups gearing up.
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Starting point is 03:33:22 We got Trump elected. The old globalist order definitely hates Trump tried to kill him. You know, he's having victories in the Supreme Court all over the place. Big Doge victories that they can fire any federal employees they want. It is with great pain that I have to sit here when we're gaslit and have all these Israeli operatives attacking us for questioning the Iran escalation. and the Epstein cover-up. But like Bracken said, Israel's fingerprints are all over this.
Starting point is 03:33:58 And I've talked to high-level advisors to Trump, intelligence people the last two days, talked to a lot this morning. And they basically say, well, we can't give me a lot of details. But yeah, this is a fight from the U.S. and Israel. Israel knows the Democrats have been knocked out partially. They're trying to swoop in and basically have a coup over America. So I'm not one of these guys that, you know, hates Israel or harps on it all day. the neocons were heavily involved in 9-11 and the Bushes in our Middle Eastern policy,
Starting point is 03:34:24 but they're not the only power block. There's common as China. There's the Black Rock Globless. There's all that. But Netanyahu, with the people he's got in the administration, is undoubtedly making a move right now. And you can see it on his face. He's on a huge power trip.
Starting point is 03:34:40 And so is the U.S. wagging the tail or are we the tail or are they the dog? This is a dangerous situation. of shift gears and left wing terrorism and other issues here with Matt Bracken. Great national security analysts, former Navy SEAL, terrorism expert, author, Enemiesfarindomestic.com. You can follow them on next. We'll put that up on screen. But, Matt, big picture, Putin definitely doesn't see this as strength. We've got Putin sends message to U.S. with record 700 drone and missile attacks overnight. Trump has said basically that, you know, well, quote is Putin's now full of BS.
Starting point is 03:35:25 And I'm not a Putinite by any stretch of the imagination. But NATO started this long escalation in war. Russia's out producing weapons. He said three to one. The money's not there. So China sees that its weakness. I know China wanted us to go into Iran because it depletes our weapons. They can do the math.
Starting point is 03:35:45 They can beam count as good as anybody maybe better. I mean, America on trade and other issues were starting to win, but, and yeah, the border's getting secured. But suddenly in the last three months, I'm seeing Trump take a very dramatic turn on a bunch of issues to very destructive waters. And I would be derelict to my duty as an American citizen as a father to not be criticizing it.
Starting point is 03:36:14 What is your big picture of view of what's happening? You're a smart guy. I mean, what do you think is really going on? A and then B, how do we get Trump to course correct back? I mean, I think it's by criticizing him. I know these messages get back to him. Big picture, and then what do we do? Well, I think that Israel is trying to suck us into a major war with Iran, for sure.
Starting point is 03:36:36 And Israel doesn't care about regime change. I hear that all the time. Israel wants regime annihilation, the way they did in Syria. Israel knows Netanyahu knows they can't control who the next leader of Iran is
Starting point is 03:36:55 As soon as they got rid of Assad they blew up the whole infrastructure and not its military Right There's no more Syrian air force tanks APCs Runways They just roam the country
Starting point is 03:37:05 Power power stations Every So it's basically down to You know Jolani's now our man The former ISIS murderer That had a $10 million Bounty
Starting point is 03:37:15 So for Israel, this is a good outcome in Syria. It was terrible for the Syrian al-Oyatts and Christians. No matter what Assad was, he was a sectarian leader, not a ISIS, Tochfiri Muslim radical. But what they would like to see in Iran is Iran power plants destroyed, refineries destroyed, Iran in starving, and then fighting among itself. it will no longer be a power in the region if it's reduced to a giant Syria. Now, from the American point of view, our perspective, it would be the worst possible outcome to be forced to put boots on the ground in Iran. We think that Trump believes we can put the end stone, end cap on any kind of a confrontation
Starting point is 03:38:06 because we have this B2 bomber that can just, you know, hit any target. But that doesn't end the war. If Iran doesn't want to end the war, just the way that we saw with the Houthis continuing to sink ships in the Red Sea. Iran, people need to keep this in mind. It's almost three times as big as Syria. Well, they're surrounded by mountains. They can also block the short of Hermos. They can block that real quick.
Starting point is 03:38:31 Right. They have their own Samson option, which has blocked the Strait of Hormuz, and it would affect the entire global economy. Because the Asian countries get 80% of their fuel from there. but to try to actually, if they just keep firing missiles, let's say that we're bombing the hell out of Tehran, but that doesn't stop the missiles from flying out of the desert. Then you eventually have to start with special operations troops, then Marines landing on the shores of the Strait of Hormuz
Starting point is 03:39:03 to try to attack these anti-ship cruise missiles that are on trucks hidden in caves. People have to drink of this. statements like anything's an option. Well, it's not an option. We couldn't take out Iraq. I look at the numbers. You're a Navy SEAL and a historian.
Starting point is 03:39:20 Isn't Iran for an invasion perspective like 10 times worse than Iraq? Ten times. It's five times as big as Germany. It's five times as big as Vietnam. It has 90 million people. You know, it has 10 times the population of Israel and like 100 times the landmass. So Israel's only chance fighting Iran is the, to suck America into it.
Starting point is 03:39:43 But it would be five times worse than Vietnam. I mean, imagine, you know, just the distance to get there. Once you do an amphibious invasion anywhere in Iran, then you've got to cross 1,000 miles of deserts, across mountains like Arizona, you know, just to even get near to you. That's why even the Romans and people could never take it, because it's a natural fortress. It is a natural fortress.
Starting point is 03:40:10 and they're very smart people. They don't, unlike the Saudis, they don't have to buy their weapons. You know, they never, like the Russians, in a sense, they decided not to try to, like, build an aircraft carrier to prove that they can build an aircraft carrier. The Russians concentrated on submarines and missile technology. They're also very good at jet fighters. But the Iranians never did get, you know, by the jet fighters
Starting point is 03:40:36 since, like, the Shah of Iran era, they concentrated on missiles that they can continue to fight even no matter what the Israelis do they can keep slugging them with ICBMs. And you know another week and Israel would have been, you know, their refineries
Starting point is 03:40:53 their power stations and most importantly their reverse osmosis water desalilization plants. You hit these and Israel has no fuel, no power and no drinking water. So Israel's
Starting point is 03:41:09 only chance is pulling us into the war. And America can't afford it. It's five times bigger than Vietnam, five times bigger than Germany. It's almost three times as big as Texas. And it's on the other side of the world. And it's not a place where you can invade and then roll to Baghdad. We know how that worked out. This would be an order of magnitude tougher than the Iraq war. And meanwhile, our own forces are completely depleted since the 1990-191 Desert Storm episode pushing Saddam out of Kuwait. And then the post-9-11 Operation Iraqi Freedom, we don't even have that force anymore. So to try to get America involved in a land war in Iran, if that's Israel's play is to get us to be the, you know, know, the punisher, I think it's a terrible thing to do because it would just absolutely
Starting point is 03:42:11 wreck what is left of America. Well, anybody who's ever studied battlefields, looks at Iran, it looks like a trap for a foreign army. And it has been through history. Now, the Romans attacked and the Persians were worn down, and then the Muslims did invade and take it over, but it still got the same physical features. And they control the Strait of Hormuz, so they have their own same. an option. If we got to the point where we wrecked their economy, took out their power grid,
Starting point is 03:42:41 took out their refineries, you think they're just going to say, hey, go ahead, Saudi Arabia, you'll make even more money selling oil to China now. No, they'll close the Strait of Hormuz, and they can do it easily. And they're probably voted to do it, but they've held off. So we only have a little bit of time left on the main subject. Yeah, we can't even, we can't even keep the the Red Sea open against the Houthis. So the shifting years is domestic. I don't want to count the Democrats out. We're dealing with Israel, horning in, and then, well, let's talk about Russia. What do you make of Russia's escalation
Starting point is 03:43:09 and what's happening there? The Russian war is, the Russia-Ukraine war is interesting. It's mainly a battle of logistics at this point. It has some echoes of the American Civil War where you can say, oh, Confederate fighters fought so bravely and they were on their
Starting point is 03:43:27 own home ground and, you know, had all these advantages. Right, but New England was cranking out cannons, right? Locomotives. They could lay rail and destroyed Confederate rail. And eventually the logistics win. It's that old cliche, you know, amateurs talk strategy and professionals talk logistics. The Russians have the logistics.
Starting point is 03:43:49 They can now continue firing missiles at increasing rates. And remember, they outperform. They double produce what the Nazis could. Right. And they, and they, there's, and this relate, we'll relate to the other topic, which is the left-wing terror, because. I think drone warfare has been the biggest revolution in military affairs since the Second World War, on a par with nuclear weapons being developed.
Starting point is 03:44:16 It's revolutionized everything. Especially autonomous destruction. And it means that there's no more big arrow, what Colonel Dan Davis calls the big arrow movements. You know, the Schwartz Kopp's end around in Desert Storm. We're not going to see that anymore because, you know, a $1,000 drone can kill a million dollar tank all day long, right? So the Russians are not going to have some big arrow attack on Kiev or, you know, sweep to the Denepper because you have to consolidate every kilometer. You have to move forward and then move your electronic warfare. like a sci-fi movie, your shield,
Starting point is 03:45:05 your electronic warfare shield. Nothing can get out ahead of your electronic warfare shield. So the games are going to be small and incremental, but meanwhile they're attriding the Ukrainian manpower, which the Ukrainians can't replace. But the Russians said, we're going slowly, and then we're going to destroy all the NATO weapons. I mean, they said that.
Starting point is 03:45:27 Yeah, but, but, that footage there is showing old Russian bombers that were by treaty, by the START treaty, left in the open, the way we have left B-52s in the open, showing that they're not operational as part of the START treaty. So this is another kind of dishonorable thing where... Another violation of treaties, yeah. Right, because we're saying to the Ukrainians, okay, you do the dirty work. We'll show you where they are, you do the dirty work. but those bombers were parked there under a treaty. So, you know, we're just... But it goes to your point of the power of drones.
Starting point is 03:46:03 So getting left wing, it sounds like you're predicting with Tagoree as well. We're going to start seeing drone attacks with the left. Yeah, there are, and I will not discount that there are tactically proficient Antifa. You're using that as a general term, not necessarily like, you know, take an organization. No, Joe, they are the pedophile, satanic, communist, force. I mean, that's a joke, folks. That's what they are. The university professors but in North Carolina, in Oregon, in Washington, there are guys that are trained that
Starting point is 03:46:35 have night vision, they have radios, they have, you know, weapons with thermal. There are guys like that. But as we saw at the attack on the ice people, they're not, their strong suit is not going to be toe-to-to-tactics carrying rifles. It's not their strong suit. But Somewhere there are nerds in this country that have been following the developments in Russia very carefully. And I reposted a substack. I do substack now and then. I reposted a substack on drone warfare in Civil War II, meaning in America. So when people are proficient with these drones and you can order them from China, dozens of them, you know, a hundred of them, they'll come to your house by Amazon.
Starting point is 03:47:22 If you figure out and you train with one, you can make 100. The way we saw with the first night of the Israeli attacks in Iran and also that attack on the bomber base in Russia. So somebody can launch in one night 100 drones. This is going to happen. And we're going to see drones used for assassinations. You know, the kid alleged, you know, the alleged solo shooter up in Pennsylvania. had a drone for his own reconnaissance,
Starting point is 03:47:56 but he could have just as easily have had an explosive charge in it and flown it right into the dais. And we're going to see things like that. And it's perfect with the deep state to have a Patsy out there. They can't have a few drones and then have plausible nobility about who launched them. So here's a clip of a great Green Beret,
Starting point is 03:48:13 a medical doctor, friend of mine, Doc Chambers. He lives right outside Austin, Texas, with Laura Logan talking about the Intel. He's not a BS. He's been down there heavily on the border. with the government, we'll see with that that. Saying that there are groups smuggling massive amounts of these,
Starting point is 03:48:27 just like Israel smuggled them in to Iran, just like Ukraine with NATO smuggled them into Russia. We are way more open than Russia and, you know, Ukraine and Iran. So just imagine that here is Doc Chambers talking about it. What else did you see coming over that border? Okay, so, yeah, we have to be careful with this one. Hardware. I know personally of military hardware.
Starting point is 03:48:50 Yes. Drones. Drones for sure. I've watched them come across. I've physically seen the drones. Explosives? Explosives for sure, absolutely. Surface air missiles.
Starting point is 03:49:00 Yes. Not in Texas, but the information came to us about another state where they came across as a port of entry. Okay, and so what you have really is a collaboration between the Mexican cartels, the Venezuelan cartels, all of whom are now designated as foreign terrorist organizations, working with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards units. They're docked in Venezuelan passports, yes. and the CCP Chinese facilitating?
Starting point is 03:49:24 100%. It's harder for them to hide when they come across, but they do. They pay differently and come different. So it's like an American enemy's convention, aided and abetted by our domestic enemies. Aided and embedded by certain individuals on this side of the border that are American citizens that are in positions of power. What do you make of that, Matt Brigham?
Starting point is 03:49:47 Yeah, just not dwelling on which weapons he's talking about, but naming all of the groups, and Laura Logan said it sounds like an American enemies convention. When you have so many enemies, it makes it much easier to pull the trigger on an operation because enemy A can blame it on enemy B that they're not exactly crazy about. You know, the Bolsheviks can. It gives them camouflage. That's key. It gives them camouflage.
Starting point is 03:50:13 Right. The Bolsheviks can do an assassination and blame the Trotskyites, right? And say, we had nothing to do with it. And you also get rid of some of your competition at the same time because the American security state, you know, will come down hard on the Senilea cartel, you know, in America while the Gulf cartel is laughing, right? Because they, well, you could have the Chinese do something and have Iran blamed. You could have anybody do something and have other people blame. False flag city. Right.
Starting point is 03:50:46 And we live in a glass house, something we have. We have to remember it's not World War II. We're not protected by two giant oceans. Try as they might. The Germans and the Japanese could not put a bomb in New York or San Francisco. And they tried, you know, little things from submarines maybe. But they couldn't just attack America and turn our light. Japan tried with fire balloons.
Starting point is 03:51:12 They tried. And they experimented in China with bubonic plague dropping. canisters of plague fleas in China, things like that. But they couldn't just wipe out Chicago or New York. But if you turn the lights out in American city, you might as well bomb it. Because once you put the power out in American cities, and if you do it at multiple cities the same time, we won't be able to self-correct it. There won't be the transformers in a warehouse somewhere to repair all of this.
Starting point is 03:51:48 And we have Hollywood with all the Joker movies and culture promoting when the power goes off. Everyone's supposed to go crazy and kill each other. We have our own establishment priming that. Why is that? Yeah, the predictive programming is very strong. I think that subliminally, the last 20 years, all the zombie movies have been the real subliminal message is that when things go haywire, all of these predators are going to come pouring out of the cities looking for food, right? that's the
Starting point is 03:52:18 that's the real subliminal message of the whole zombie movie phenomenon of the last 15, 20 years and people in the suburbs
Starting point is 03:52:26 are prepared for this scenario where the stores will all be looted and the rule number one of looting is you've got to be
Starting point is 03:52:35 there first okay if you're the civilized guy who waits by the time you get to the Walmart
Starting point is 03:52:41 supermarket supermarket it's empty so you know and with with media spreading the message, if something happens in St. Louis, Baltimore,
Starting point is 03:52:51 Chicago, then people in Atlanta, you know, L.A. are going to say, shoot, I better get to the store and loot it now. You know, the credit card systems are down. The EBT cards aren't working, and my kids are going to be starving, so let's just loot the stores.
Starting point is 03:53:06 And, you know, there are many other ways to attack this country, you know, starting wildfires and so forth. But my point is, we shouldn't be bragging. I'm not proud of the 4th of July showing B2 bombers after we just, you know, did a mission for Israel,
Starting point is 03:53:26 which started this 12-day war with a dishonorable sneak attack during negotiations. And then we're proudly waving the flag while B-2s are flying over Washington on the 4th of July. That's going to come back to haunt us because all the B-2s and all the aircraft carriers aren't going to fix our power grid,
Starting point is 03:53:45 if our enemies do cyber attacks or kinetic attacks because they finally decide. And again, the globalist, the Klaus Schwab times could hit our power, which they've been preparing, and blaming on Iran. Easily. Hey, listen, before we go, I want to say, and the debate with Dinesh DeSuzza and Nick Fuentes
Starting point is 03:54:06 and then Nick's appearance yesterday was amazing. And it gives me so much hope for the future that we have guys that are that smart. I mean, that was really great for you to give him the time because Nick Fuentes, like Alex Jones, like Darrell Cooper, is one of these guys where you're, the first you hear about him is don't listen to him. It's like the devil. He's so sly. You just can't listen to Alex Jones or Darrell Cooper or Nick Fuentes. Well, I listened and I'm very impressed.
Starting point is 03:54:42 And I, you know, really gives me hope that there are. some folks like that that are just ready to go for the next couple generations. You know, I go back to remembering Martin Luther King, RFK, all of those assassinations in 68, I remember them, weather underground, the terror bombings, Black Panthers, all of that. And I think we are rolling into another phase like that, but I think that in some ways it could be worse because. No, I agree. I think the whole Leptus uprising is the cover for the real enemies. But just to think of the tech changes in technology,
Starting point is 03:55:23 the weather underground had to actually physically sneak a bomb into the Capitol or into an officer's club in Fort Dix. That took some planning and nerve. And now you can just fly 20 drones in from 10 miles outside the base. You know, that's right. Well, you're saying impressive things as well, Matt Bracken. and people need to find you on next you go to Enemiesfarmerdomestic.com.
Starting point is 03:55:46 Join us again soon as this unfolds. Overall, we need Trump, we need him to win, we need him to be on our side, but I just have to say we should all start putting pressure on him because there's major Israeli pressure in there. That's the main group now, folks. Horing in on our revolution, do you agree with that statement?
Starting point is 03:56:03 Yeah, definitely. And when you have so many adversaries and you have like the entire debt cycle spinning to the end, where traditionally the bankers and the military industrial complex will like to have a major war so they can clear the books and
Starting point is 03:56:18 call it an act of God it was out of our control. All the records were destroyed when Wall Street was blown up. You know, this gets them off the hook for what they've done with the... That's right. All the planets are aligning to incredible instability. People that see all the craziness now, believe me, folks,
Starting point is 03:56:34 you ain't see nothing yet. I don't see that to scare you. It's time to get ready. Matt, let's talk soon. God bless you. I wanted to show you. Look, your t-shirt, your t-shirt, your t-shirt and that, look, your t-shirt. Love it, brother. Talk to you, Matt, soon. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 03:56:49 Oh, 30-second, quick question. So it looks to me like kind of the No King stuff is dutting out if they're attacked two-eye facilities. Do you think it's going to get a lot worse, or is there summer or love failing? Yeah, no, the Luigi-Mangione thing is very important. Making him into a hero that girls want to, you know, date is encouraging all the other potential, you know, New King, No-Kings assassins and potential Luigi-Mangione. that they can get their internet fame and their immortal glory by killing some right-wingers.
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