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It's Thursday, July 24th, 2025.
I got some bad news for you.
Hulk Hogan has died.
Wars.
Tomorrow's news today.
Of the show, called in a few times many years ago,
and I know a lot of people that knew him well,
and just said he was a really great, awesome guy,
like Rowdy Piper that was a guest on our broadcast and a listener.
And it was on my bucket list to get him on.
We're very close to getting him on.
right around the RNC.
That didn't happen as an official guest.
And it just broke in last 20 minutes that there's a slew of police cars,
EMTs were parked outside his home.
The icon was carried away in a stretcher into an ambulance just a few weeks ago.
His wife tonight rumors he was in a coma,
stating his heart was strong and he was recovering from surgeries.
Now they are reporting that he is dead.
So as more information comes out about that, we will report on it,
wrestling legend Hulk Hogan dead at 71.
And of course, what a way to go out here in the last year there at the RNC back in the summer.
Taring off his shirt for Trump mania.
So there you go.
I was out in Florida last year.
one of those beachside resorts outside Tampa.
I was visiting Pastor Rodney Howard Brown's church.
And I come up and park my car in the valley, comes up, he was a listener.
He goes, hey, man, you just missed it.
Hulk Hogan was out at the restaurant here.
He comes here all the time.
He just drove off.
I said, man, that sucks.
So never got to meet him in person.
We did call into the show a few times.
and
Ozzy Osbourne died a couple days ago
and I like some Ozzy's music
but I wasn't really
iconically
interested overall but it just shows you how short life is
but Hulk Hogan until the end was very
cogent and very smart
and I've been a Christian for a long time
but it never really talked about us faith
but just the last few years
but really professing it
and talking about how important it is
to have Jesus Christ your life and the Holy Spirit
So what an entertainer.
Amazing.
I learned about three minutes for one live on air that he was dead.
And I told the crew get a compilation of him body slamming on a giant.
There's even better ones where he picks it up actually over his head,
which the guy weighed over 500 pounds.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to pick up a bar with 500 pounds on it,
which is controllable, much less dead weight?
I mean, just unbelievably strong.
and he's gone now.
So there you go, ladies and gentlemen, Hulk Hogan.
What a bummer.
What a bummer.
Now our heart goes out to his family and everybody else connected to him,
but he's certainly iconic and will never be forgotten.
I mean, him and Andre the Giant are obviously the greatest professional wrestlers,
entertainers from that genre, hands down.
I mean, there's just, you cannot,
you can't even really compare anybody else to them.
Just really credible athletes.
And I got to say,
under the giant, might just barely top Hulk Hogue
as the greatest wrestle ever because he was so gigantic
and in so much pain the last year
was just fought through it.
But it's just hard to say who was greater.
There's two Titans right up there at the top.
They'll be back with all the serious news,
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Cole Cogan has reportedly died
in just the last few hours in Clearwater, Florida,
of cardiac arrest at 71 years old.
And, of course, the most incredible things
is him all those times
at Russellmania, body slamming Andre the Giant who weighed over 520 pounds.
If any idea, picking up 520 pounds on a bar is an incredible feat above your head,
or at least up your shoulders.
Picking up dead weight is just no one even thought he could do it until the first time he did it.
And he said to interview this, I think the second time he did it.
Because the first few times he did it up partially above his head,
then he felt his spine go, he literally lost like,
a couple inches, destroyed his spine.
And after that in future,
WrestleMania, as he would just pick him up to his shoulders.
But my goodness gracious.
Hulk Hogan, again, we could dig it out.
He called into the show a few times many years ago.
We had an affiliate there in Clearwater.
And he would call in under his regular name and later talk to him some on the phone.
He said, yeah, he's been a listener for a long time.
And I just never got him on as an actual guest.
That's a real bummer.
and just missed meeting him in Florida at a hotel.
I pulled in from dinner with my wife visiting Rodney-Hour Brown.
They go, man, you just miss Hulk Hogan.
He comes here all the time.
He just drove off.
The car was like driving off.
I was like, wow.
So that was definitely on my bucket list to shake his hand.
He did a great job, obviously, campaigning for Trump
and doing the Hulkomania Hulkster.
tear the shirt off at the R&C.
We will talk more about that as we get
more information, but certainly living a life of the man in the arena.
Goodbye.
It will not be forgotten.
Hulk Hogan.
And this two days after Ozzy Osbourne made the jump into hyperspace.
Okay.
I have an extremely full play today on so many fronts.
And I told listeners and viewers that as I got a better approximation of what's going on with this Epstein firestorm,
that I would tell you what my view of it is.
And my views and my research is never clouded by what I want something to be.
I always go with what the research information points to.
Now, normally when we're covering policies and issues, it's cut and dry.
carbon taxes are a scam to control all human activity and track us with AI computers to build a post-industrial world for de-industrialization and depopulation.
The idea that two men can have a baby and there's no difference between men and women, you know, stuff like that is cut and dry.
The fact that communism is a nightmare enslavement system, that's cut and dry.
When you start getting into issues like what's really going on with this ongoing Epstein scandal,
And there's all these different layers and all these different people involved in this long history and all these different cases and all these different leaks.
It's its own world like somebody's an expert on football because they've been watching it for 30 years and love it.
Well, just knowing about Epstein becomes its own world.
and I have been covering it for decades.
It's decades now.
And it's paradoxical because you learn a lot about how the globalist operate
and you learn how the Justice Department operates by studying it.
And so even though at a certain point it becomes a distraction
because it takes over so much of the bandwidth of research,
it's still extremely informative because if you've actually studied it,
you know who the different factions are inside the DOJ and the intelligence agencies,
and you get a very good idea of exactly what's going on.
But this case itself is just a small piece of this larger underground,
human trafficking, child trafficking, pedophiles, satanic empire or network.
And I've forgotten more about the Epstein case than most of the so-called experts know.
So the corporate media, but also the alternative media, have all had a field day with the fact that I will lay out the bad facts against Trump.
Then I will lay out the good facts.
And then people will just take the good facts I lay out for five minutes.
and say, look, he's mindlessly defending him,
or they will take,
then I then spend five minutes with the bad facts and say,
oh, he's mindlessly just attacking Trump.
And that's an issue with the people that are doing that.
That's an issue of them for whatever reason,
whether it's CNN or whether it's some right-wing commentator
or whoever they are that want to have a particular narrative,
they do that.
But anyone actually listening to this show
would know exactly where I stand and that I show you the facts in all the cases.
And that I've also, since this giant fiasco broke 18 days ago,
have been the most accurate up front on who was behind this, who was behind that.
What's coming next?
What's going to unfold?
I mean, we've nailed it.
And I've been telling people, you know, the first week of it,
I'm not sure exactly what's going on.
Then I started to get a good idea.
And I've had so many people from the White House.
High level call me to get my opinion of what's going on.
So when I say I have sources in the FBI and the White House and intelligence,
they just give me pieces of things, but mainly call me to ask what I think.
So people ask, oh, you've got these sources.
Yeah, the sources call me.
Let's just be clear about that.
So, and they're really calling me.
now because I've nailed exactly what's going on.
So people got a really bad taste in their mouth when Trump came out over a week ago, a few days
into this, and said, you're not MAGA.
You keep talking about this.
This is all a Democrat hoax.
And people need to just move on from it because it's a distraction, just like Russiagate
from the important work we're doing.
That was pretty ham-fisted.
He later elaborated in his surrogates.
He said, no, he's not saying Epstein didn't do bad stuff.
these semi-democrats have had the files.
They're only going to put recycled BS in there.
And Trump was the one that sent him to get the files.
And they came back to him and said, sir, you're in it.
And then he heard the crap that was in it.
Nothing substantive, but recycled BS.
And then he blew up and said, shut it down.
Well, you can't do that.
And now you've seen Speaker Johnson come out and say that was the case.
And you've seen Trump's surrogates come out and say it.
And you've seen the Wall Street Journal come out.
say, yeah, Trump learned he was in the files back in May.
And it was clear when they got those files and clear when they reported back to him
that like a record skipping, they went from, we're going to release all this to there are no files.
First the surrogates, Bongino, Patel, then Bondi, and then Trump himself.
So definitely Trump is in there.
And then that's a whole other discussion of what the files are.
the public acts like it's some magic little black book
and then that's all there is and then you know, no, no, it's the product
of a whole bunch of different, quote, federal investigations
run by Comey and his daughter and the rest of them
at damage control when there were civil lawsuits bringing stuff out.
They would then indict the people to limit the investigation control it
and then have lesser convictions,
which then they end up getting out of prison later,
because they deliberately put major areas,
in the prosecution, just like you saw with Piddy, run again by the cleanup expert Marine
combing.
So I'm sorry for the general internet and other folks that just see clips of the show or
people that tune in and this is just too complex for you.
This is not the show for you, okay?
You see, I understand in a one-dimensional mindset, you just need to be.
He told some simplistic stuff, and then you can decide whether you still support Trump or you don't,
or you've always hated Trump, and now you just want to believe he's bad,
or you're a rabid, mindless Trump supporter that wants to be in a cult,
who says anybody even asking questions or saying Trump really stepped in it by ordering this cover-up,
makes him look very suspicious.
It's going to be a firestorm, and then I was massively attacked the first day it broke
as a traitor and a Democratic Party operative.
And this was part of Trump's $8 trillion DHS.
Well, at first they just said, you're wrong.
Trump's not behind it.
Over than 48 hours, he came out and said, no, he was behind it.
This is absolute crap.
It's another setup.
And I said, yeah, Comey and the rest of them have control of the files.
And whatever they left in there is going to take out bad stuff about them
and obviously leave bad stuff in or add bad stuff about Trump.
and people accuse me of covering up for Trump there
and saying, oh, look, you're agreeing with him with the preposterous idea
that Comey, Clapper, Brennan, and the Democrats were control of the file.
They were in control of the file.
And they go, no, no, no, he was in eight years ago.
And they didn't give it to him then.
That's come out.
And they've added all this new stuff.
And I predicted the type of stuff that would be in it.
And now they're leaking out what's in it.
and whatever they left in that stuff in New York,
and it's all the exact, recycled, already debunked,
that came out before.
Because even if Trump really was involved,
they're involved, so they're not going to bring something out
that connects it to them with all the Democrats and Bill Gates
and the rest of it and Steve Jobs' wife and all of it.
No, it's going to be the same innuendo and same garbage
that they ran in the campaign eight and a half, nine years,
ago. I was there. I covered it all. So again, I'm teaching you how this works if you're a new
listener or viewer, and I'm sorry if it makes your head hurt, but this is how the real world is,
okay? Now, I mean, I could give everybody a very simple approximation here, and I will do that
at about 45 after. And by simple, I mean, it doesn't mean it's not accurate in my view. It's just
a simple boil down and then I can give you some of the latest information.
But if you are a regular listener, you know I've predicted in the last 18 days,
basically everything that's now happened.
And then what's going to happen next, I'll get into that.
But this is going to be the new Democrat issue going into the fall.
They're going to kick it all off when Congress comes back in in late August.
And you saw the spin in the media.
Corporate media.
Oh, the Republicans canceled Congress so there could.
be a hearing on this, Congress always leaves in late July and then comes back in late August
for hundreds of years to go back to their constituency.
And that's because we were mainly an agrarian society and farming society.
And that's when the harvest is back in their district.
So it's an important time to be back there.
So George Washington had a hand in that, obviously.
He was the biggest farmer in the United States at that time,
richest man in the United States,
even before he was president.
So that's an example of how you've got to go through all these Democrat lies.
And then you've got to actually look at what Trump's being deceptive about
and then what they're being deceptive about.
But it was so easy to call it,
I said, you watched congressional hearings a few weeks ago when this broke.
And everybody said, no, the Democrats won't be in for a year and a half.
I said, no, the Republicans are going to have them because their constituents are going to demand it.
Well, now they're doing it.
Now they're subpoenaing the Clintons and Trump, everybody else.
And that it wasn't hard to predict, as I did a couple weeks ago, Roger Stone.
And we said he needs to tell the AG to go in and have all these court files and grand jury information released, which he ordered.
I said, do you watch the federal judges in New York and Florida will block it.
They're all Democrat judges and an Obama judge in Florida blocked the original.
Epstein case from almost two decades ago, and I predict they will block.
The files being released on Gisland-Mexwell and on Epstein in the New York cases.
And you now have a Democrat lawmakers saying, no, no, no, no, they don't want any of it
release unless it has Trump's name on it.
So Trump's like, no release at all.
So at first he learned that they'd said his wife was a prostitute that worked for Epstein,
which they did before.
It's not true.
He got mad.
and that they had these fake Jane Does.
It turned out to be fake that they said he raped with Epstein,
that weren't even real women.
He saw that.
And they came and they told him
and had a bunch of other so-called handwritten notes
and garbage and the rest of it.
And he just blew up and said,
move on, then, shut the damn thing down.
The guy's dead.
And it was Trump, gave the orders,
and I've confirmed with the White House.
I'll sleep with that.
Talk directly.
People that were there in the last few days,
two days ago and yesterday.
And, of course, it was Trump.
He later came out and said it was him.
And you saw him say, in press conference,
say, hey, this is all coming, Brendan Clapper, saying people Obama,
they're in the Russia hoax.
You know, if you like what's happening in the country
and you believe what I'm doing, then trust me, let's move forward.
That was a little better than what he did before,
just saying, shut up, you're my enemy.
Have you talked about this?
You're not MAGA.
And now the Democrats, you don't want any of it released,
and Trump does.
So that tells you everything you need to know.
Oh, yeah.
That's why Epstein really got mad at Trump originally.
Epstein came to believe, and then this is written by Trump's enemies, by the way.
Epstein came to believe that it was Trump who at first caused him to be investigated by law enforcement in Florida in 2005.
And by the way, before that was ever in Yahoo News years ago, Roger Stone was there in Palm Beach, lives there.
and it was Trump came to him
even before Epstein ever got indicted
and said we better stay away from this guy
and he told him the story if he goes
to a dinner party at a big mansion
and he sees all these
looks like 14-year-old girls in the pool
wearing bikinis and stuff
and Trump goes, hey, aren't they nice
to let the neighbor's kids swim here at this party?
And they went, no, no, they're part of the party
and Trump literally ran out.
And Trump told him about it.
that. And then Roger talked to
people and then Trump dropped a dime on
his ass and that's when it all started.
And that's come out in federal court documents.
We just, you know, there's news articles about it.
So,
I mean, if you think Trump
would go get implicated with
a child trafficking ring so they could blackmail
and control him, you're nuts.
That's, that's,
all the globalists
go to these things to get in the club.
Trump has never been in the
club.
He came and basically got elected
the first time he ever ran to president.
He's been an outsider. He built his own system.
It's very well known. He is a lone wolf.
Is there footage at big parties at Marlago and things?
And in comes Epstein and Trump's at the door,
greeting people and saying, look at these women.
And look at the women.
30-year-old in their prime, going wild.
That's Trump.
Playboy, yes.
What do you got?
His daughter's sitting on his lap in a bathing suit.
plenty of photos of my daughters in my lap with bathing since it's you people that have sick thoughts in your minds when you see things like that and say that's what that is so i said i'd get to it i mean there there's a lot but it would have already come out of trump did anything substantive they spiked a bunch of made-up stuff a bunch of recycled garbage trump blew up took the mate told him shut it down ordered them to go out and tell people there's nothing to see move along
because he knew it was their new Russia gate.
And then by doing that, blew it up 100 times bigger.
But now the Democrats are scared because they were desperate
and they're playing with fire.
And now the federal judges and the Obama judges
and the Congress people are like,
oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't actually release the real grand jury information.
No, no, no.
But now you've got the Republicans,
because their constituents are on their ass,
knowing, well, we want it all, and they are subpoenaing the Clintons,
Trump's records, everything.
So we are now off to the races on this, and what Trump feared,
a new Russia gate is here.
Run by the same people. That's all true.
But now if he handles it well and attacks at each piece at a time,
and now changes course, and goes ahead and tells the Just Department,
take the gloves off, start arrest in the real...
perpetrators.
They'll turn, tail, and run so fast.
Remember, Trump said a couple days ago in a speech
or in press conference, he said,
you know, I told the Justice Department not to indict
Hillary, because I just thought we need to move on
politically and hopefully they'd stop attacking what they didn't.
And now, after all they've done,
and all the Russia gate and trying to, you know,
destroy me in the country, I don't have
any choice, whether it's good or bad, they deserve it.
So, yeah, we're going to, they're treasonous,
Obama, all of them were coming after them.
And now they've created a
conspiracy of treason, a treason conspiracy, task force, strike force is what it's called,
to go after all these people and they have open and shut stuff.
So Trump stopped the locker up.
Right before he won, of you remember, in 2016, he started saying, come on, come on,
let's not say that anymore.
Because he was going to try to come in and make deals with the establishment,
and get his policies through, and just let them still.
keep the stuff they stole, but just move on.
He was letting him sue for peace.
They didn't do that.
And so, and I told you this months ago, the word is, no, they're being told, and
it's greenlit, and they got all the evidence.
I mean, Gabbard released just absolute, pure proof.
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I already said I'd get to it, but there's just so much here.
I got all the clips.
Let me do this.
Let me do this.
I'm going to hit that start of the next hour with all the clips and all the information.
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Not in normal times.
If you look at all the different indicators, and according to my sources of the DOJ, the White House and more,
and you hear what the president's saying.
He's directly saying Obama's guilty of treason, and they have the total evidence.
same thing with Hillary Clapper, Brennan, Comey.
They finally fired Comey's daughter that ran the cover-ups of Epstein on the ground.
And, of course, obviously, salted and spiked the files that they left behind.
That's a no-brainer. That's what this group does.
They're thoroughbreds of it.
And Trump knows they've laid this trap.
They understand it's an existential threat.
His agenda of saving the country and world peace and stabilizing things is not going to get through.
unless the deep state leadership is indicted.
Now, if they'd have left him alone, like he asked him to do in 2016, as he's talked about,
and as he said a few days ago in that press conference, he'd have left them alone.
They didn't do that.
And so now Trump has a choice, roll over to them and become their creature,
and they hate him so much.
That's not even, I think, an offer, plus he wouldn't do it.
Or they can be brought to justice.
and so that's why you're going to see them throw everything they've got now at President Trump.
Now, because of President Trump's, again, very suspicious, guilty behavior 18 days ago and since then,
now he finally backed off and said, release all the information.
I said, watch the judges.
The Democrats will block it, which they did.
Now it's, you know, I've moved from being extremely concerned to being concerned.
But I understand because I already was aware of this that he's been more frustrated.
more angry and on a lot of other issues
behind the scenes saying that's not my focus
that's a diversion that's a distraction
not just the Epstein thing
so
I'm feeling a lot better
about Trump right now but
that said the pressure he's under at
79 all the attacks and things that are going
on
we're in a very dangerous situation
and you've got to know
Obama and the globalists
are capable of doing anything right now
to stop the
incoming prosecutions of Obama's minions.
I don't believe Obama will ever be indicted.
You saw the Supreme Court ruling that presidents doing things as president are immune
except by being voted out or by impeachment, or you could have any prosecutor in the
country basically become co-president or any judge, like you've seen these Article 3 judges,
also overridden by the Supreme Court.
So Obama really cannot ever be prosecuted.
but Clapper
Brennan Coney can
not for perjury to Congress
and all the things they got caught doing
we never leaked
we never spied we never
that's all been certified a lie
statute of limitations
has already ran out on that
but there's no statute of limitations
on treason
on sedition
on
coups
and they can also be drug in again
and force to testify before Congress
and others
and re-indicted or indicted for perjury there.
So they are coming after them.
And I can tell you from the people meeting with the President Flynn and others and Stone and others,
Trump is fire breathing even before the Sebstin thing that he wants them indicted.
You've seen him say it many times.
So a lot of people say, oh, you know, we'll believe indictments when we see it.
Well, I'll just say this.
Climate is a much more, more intense climate right now for this, the atmosphere, and I believe it's about a 70% chance.
You will see major indictments sometime in the next three to six months.
The biggest question is, do they have a few people with the guts to take action with the open and shut evidence?
And the answer is they do, but it's still going to be one hell of a fight.
But now that they've launched these new attacks on Trump, it makes an even stronger chance
that Trump will be able to push his Justice Department into going on full offense.
But because the Justice Department itself is implicated in the Epstein cover-up and the honeypots,
that's why there's so much institutional resistance to it.
But imagine Trump has them raid the FBI in New York where they were hiding the so-called Epstein files
that they'd been denying existed criminally.
They could indict Southern District of New York people that did that,
and they have the FBI in New York who did that.
it was email saying don't give me anything
you know dig in with the resistance
and then Trump
has it sent out all the FBI officers
investigate and they go come and they come back and say sir
you're all over this
and then Trump blows up
and says we know this is all crap go shut this down
see if he was
involved in something bad in there
that was real it had been covered
up and you never would have known about it
and you say well why didn't the
Democrats use it before
with fake info, because it would then open the case up about them where there's real stuff.
So that moves into this area.
Justice Department announces formation of strike force to assess evidence,
publicized by the office, the Tulsi Gabbard runs of National Intelligence.
And they are going directly at the jugular of these people.
Here's President Trump yesterday.
They cheated in the election.
there are no more questions, and there's much more to come.
You haven't seen anything yet, and I agree with that from all my sources.
Here it is.
I think we knew it before, in all fairness, Telsie, but now you have certainty.
She has all the documents.
She has everything that you need, and she found out that Barack Hussein Obama led a group of people,
and they cheated in the elections, and they cheated without question.
It's not even a quote.
Would you say there's even a little question there, Tulsi?
She says no.
And you found things that nobody thought we'd ever find.
And very happy and very honored to have you with us.
She's right now, by far, Speaker.
She's hotter than you right now, Speaker.
She's the hottest person in the room right now, Speaker.
So Tulsi, great job.
And I know you have a lot more coming.
She told me you've seen nothing yet.
So I heard those rumors about you, but now I know they're true.
So we're very proud of you, Chelsea.
They cheated so badly.
And ultimately, it led to loss in 2020.
And it shouldn't have been a loss.
It was a big victory.
We won by a lot.
We had to do it again.
But if I thought we lost, I would never have run again.
And this is a far more consequential election than it would have been if we did.
That's the only thing I can say in favor of it.
But we can't, we can't ever let that happen again to our country.
of what happened in terms of inflation in terms of so many things, but most importantly, maybe
in terms of allowing millions and millions of people into our country that we should have.
Now, I know a lot of the stuff that Gabbard has because a lot of it's already come out.
Remember, after they stole the 2020 election, it came out this year, the FBI, the CIA,
released it
that the FBI knew China
flew in private planes full of ballots
in key battle around states, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
you name it. We had witnesses at the time and whistleblowers
and the Chinese driving him with the vans at 2 a.m. delivering it
on the surveillance cameras. So we all reported
this then. But now
the documents that the FBI knew
and good FBI agents were doing their job
and they got told shut it down.
And they knew because they had access
to the NSA, CIA,
database that was already tracking them.
And so there were actually good people in the government, in the agencies, that were saying,
look at these Chinese.
But then it turned out they were working with other people in the Justice Department and high-level CIA
to steal the election with the mail-in ballots they flew in, all marked for Joe Biden.
Wasn't enough to have the safe houses and the mail-in ballots and filling out people's names
and having mules go drop them off in the mailboxes.
in the drop boxes, the Postal Service, drop-off boxes.
No, they had, you know, postal workers in Pennsylvania
stuck out there waiting five hours to deliver their load
into a big, you know, voting accounting center.
And he says, you know what?
I see these other trucks delivering all these ballots.
And, you know, it's a smart postal service mail carrier.
And he's like, man, these boxes don't look like what normal,
you know, ballot boxing looks like or whatever.
These are all, you know, let me open it.
And he gets back there.
and opens it up, and the whole van,
this is a big truck,
was full of ballots only marked for Joe Biden,
unfolded and crisp.
So he delivers it finally.
He goes and tells the FBI,
and then they come back later and threaten to arrest him and tell him,
shut up.
I mean, that's the kind of stuff we have.
And we have Chinese Americans that witnessed it,
and they have people in China that witnessed it
and thought it was wrong and sent clips back to family.
Because people have a sense of decency everywhere.
and you're in a factory in China and you're printing off Joe Biden ballots.
I mean, this is ridiculous.
And so it's not just that the CIA and the FBI knew,
still inside the government, still in control,
because Trump never got even 10% control the government.
They were running it with them.
So that's just one little goody-goody in there.
That's just one little goody-goody,
because you're going to get way more.
We already have a smoking gun,
but this is going to be specifically from the top.
Yeah, it's called,
it's called treason.
And remember what happened on November of this last year?
It was clear Trump had won.
He was points ahead and all those key battlegrounds.
And then midnight comes around and they just say,
we're waiting.
We don't know.
Kamala may go ahead.
And then all of a sudden in Pennsylvania,
Michigan, the States,
in pool of the van,
and then pull the private vehicles, out of state's plates,
and they get out and outcome all the poll watchers
and all of the Republican lawyers
who had to sue just be able to even be there.
They were all blocked in 2020.
Remember they covered up the windows and all that.
Same thing in Georgia,
same thing in Arizona, same thing in Michigan,
same thing in Pennsylvania,
same thing in key counties,
places like Texas where they stole it,
same procedures, same battle plan.
Get out of the building.
There's a fire.
Got out of the building.
A water main broke.
And then the surveillance cameras, they didn't turn off.
They're just in there jamming those ballots in there as fast as they can and just run in the same box over and over again.
Well, they know what they're doing.
And that's just one little thing that itself should sink them.
And what it's going to do to the Democrats, the court of public opinion, is beyond devastating.
And so just remember, I'll go wherever the Epstein information takes us.
and Trump's handling of it was the perfect way to create the Streisand effect,
but what I've analyzed in the backstory I had and all the pieces I had,
I said weeks ago, I believe he threw a fit because they've spiked it with disinfo,
even before Trump came out and said that.
It's not just one file, it's all these piles of things they've got,
and innuendo and rumors and garbage.
But the real stuff is in the better stuff is in the court.
hearings and is in the grand jury stuff, but the big one.
And Trump has said all pertinent information, not just the courts and the grand juries,
but he said, no, anything pertinent, Monty do it.
Well, he needs to be specific.
He needs all of Epstein's banking records for the year before he was arrested again,
and for the year after he died.
He was only in jail 30-something days, prison, holding facility, federal holding facility,
all waiting trial,
they need to release all the bank records
because a billion plus went out
right before he went to prison
and then a billion plus went out really fast
out of his bank account right after he died,
a billion one.
And if you want to know who runs him,
that's going to tell you.
And of course we know.
Massad.
But it was such an old, long-standing operation
and had approval from the CIA
and they worked jointly with MI6 that set up the original Honeypot operation
with Gisland Maxwell's father on record.
And you could say, well, they came to Trump and said it's besides CIA,
it'll bring down the government, you've got to cover it up.
And then he's like, okay, for the greater good, it'll crash the economy,
I'll do it.
I don't agree with that statement.
I'm wargaming what he could have been the thought.
And then he wasn't sophisticated enough to know that the way he came out and said,
shut it down, blow up his face.
But I said that probably wasn't.
18 days ago.
Before, it was even admitted that he was the one behind ordering the cover-up.
That's what that was.
I said, no, that would be the boilerplate.
No, he either made a deal with them to get off his back, to get the agenda through.
That's probably part of it.
And they put a bunch of embarrassing stuff about his wife in there that's not true.
We already tried that and a bunch of other stuff.
And he just said it's time to move on.
And then they had a deal to come out and say it's over.
but then when he made the deal, they all stabbed him in the back immediately and made a bigger deal out of it.
And so Trump's like, fine, release it all.
And now the Democrats don't want it released, of course.
And it is just an unmitigated disaster.
So the only way to go, Trump, is to call for total, complete release of everything.
And if you think this is going to go away, nope, the Republicans are subpoenaing for everything, from Trump, from the Clintons, from all.
of it. And the Clintons are crapping bricks.
Because unlike Trump,
where there's no real meat and potatoes,
the Clinton's deputy other foundation
was convicted for kidnapping and smuggling
kids out of hay that weren't even
orphans.
And then we've been doing more of research,
some of the crew has,
and I knew about some of this, but God, the stuff
we just found, and I'm going to
have to go over this more and then
maybe shoot a special report today or do it
right at the start of the show tomorrow.
but of course you can't swing a stick in the dark around Gisland Maxwell and the Clintons
and the pedesters and not hit an Alistair Crowley priest.
Oh, it's mainstream news.
So I don't mind other people hearing this and going to research it yourself and breaking yourself.
My old job is everybody else covering stuff.
But I'll do it just like nobody would touch the really big WikiLeaks devil worship stuff
the first few days.
We found it and would put it out.
so I got the main blame for it, then they came after him, which is fine.
And I also dug out the delivering seven-year-olds to the hot tub for John Podessa's pleasure at the farmhouse.
You know, other stuff like that.
You know what?
I'll do a special report on that this afternoon.
We'll put it out, and then we'll air it on the show tomorrow.
This can't wait.
But I've already got so much here, but the more I look at it, I think, of hundreds of other things I want to get.
Because it's like, this.
This is damning, but it's only, this is just new stuff nobody's talked about.
I have to get all the other stuff.
I mean, all of it would be take 100 hours now.
Maybe the worst hits, the greatest hits of evil then.
That gives me a headache to think about there so much.
What am I getting at?
With the Clintons, with all these people, with Gisley-Maxwell,
it is devil-worshipper Central.
And then people wonder, well, why at Epstein Island in that temple that we never got footage from until James O'Keefe got it?
Is it all about black magic and devil statues?
And what do you think?
What are these people, I've told you for decades, specifically about Epstein.
I've heard about him and others before.
Joe Ruggled will tell you almost 20 years ago, I talked about the island and that.
They've got other ones.
All these guys have got their own little island.
Nygaard and
you know the Virgin Atlantic guy
and all of them right down the street
folks
having sex with 15 16 year old girls
that's why Trump kicked
him out of Marlago 20 years ago
because he was hitting on 14 15 year olds
and also trying to take underage women
and they were like 1617
that's that's what they do
openly
no folks
it's
black Sabbaths
it's
I mean, these ancient rituals are known.
They're actually in the Bible.
They're also in the grand grimoise.
You can study just basic historical mystery school black magic that was done all over the world.
But it's pretty much all the same.
You know, we read about sacrificing kids, virgins, to different gods.
And some of the Greek culture would do that kind of in the proto-Greek culture,
orgies and killing kids.
Looks like that's the style he was doing.
But I really don't want to describe what they do to a baby here.
But you know what?
We have a guest coming on in the third hours.
That's a really great research on the Epstein Island documents in the James O'Keefe,
stuff that's on the chalkboard and the books.
I thought they did a really good job.
This is interesting.
His name's Pepperoni.
Mr. Pepperoni will be joining us coming up.
Got some other big guest.
Carl Sera from an incredible FBI whistleblower.
He's been dead on about the whole Trump thing.
Predict him first.
we'd get nothing and Trump would try a cover up.
I was stud when he said that first three, four months ago.
We should probably pull the clips of him saying that on air.
A lot of you remember it, but it's nothing like seeing it.
People really attacked him then.
Man, oh, that calls there if it hates Trump.
No, he doesn't.
He just wants to be accurate.
And boy, has he been accurate.
So that's all coming up.
But I want to continue on here a little bit with a Clapper panicking.
Oh, he used to brag that Trump was a Russian agent.
But now he's on TV saying he's scary he's going to get arrested
because Trump's so big and mean and bad.
You're just the people that surveilled him and tried to overthrow the government
and tried to put me in prison and persecuted everybody.
And brought in the communist Chinese.
It's still 2020.
And so you must be brought to justice, you evil old man.
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to subpoena the DOJ for its records.
They're also subpoenaing
the Clintons. We'll get into all
that.
As predicted, it wasn't hard.
18 days ago when this broke, I said Trump has ordered this, and it's going to blow up his face.
And a lot of my listeners, maybe 10%, that's a lot of people, were like, wow, you join the Democrats.
No, I didn't.
That was a very dumb move.
And I've talked to so many people in the White House, you know, but they totally agree.
And Trump now knows it.
He threw a fit because they came back to him, and they said there's all this crap in there, more innuendo, nothing, you know, meat and potatoes.
but all the recycled crap.
And Trump threw a fit.
And now it's backfiring, though,
because suddenly now the Democrats don't want the files released from the court cases.
And Obama judges blocked that.
But again, we were the first on air to point out that it was the Democrats,
Comey, his daughter, all of them in control of whatever they didn't want Trump to have.
They were hiding in New York,
obviously that's a don't throw me in the briar patch.
Oh, we've got these 14 terabytes.
We've got all this.
We don't want you to have it.
The Justice Department goes and grabs it and comes back to Trump in May,
according to the Wall Street Journal, and I think that's true, and says, you're in it.
And then Trump's just like, oh, my God, who knows what they've stuck in there?
Who knows what they've twisted or made up?
Well, I got a really good idea.
It'll be recycled, and we're already seeing the recycled crap leaked.
Russia, Russia, Russia, 2.0.
Trump's been truthful about that.
He's right when he said this is Russia.
Russia, Russia. But when he first blew up, he didn't say that. He just said, there's nothing there.
It's a hoax. Don't go there. Well, here's Mike Johnson being a bit more articulate about it.
Quickly weigh in on Epstein. Many are hoping to see more of those files released. There could be future court proceedings.
Is there any reason that you have to believe that any documents were tampered with by so-called deep state operatives?
Look, it hasn't been my area that I've worked on.
Unfortunately, I wish I knew more about it.
It's been in the Department of Justice.
One of our concerns is, of course, that it was, you know, held in the hands of the DOJ leaders under the last administration, the Biden-Harris administration.
And we all know how crooked and corrupt so many of those top officials were, how they engaged in lawfare against President Trump.
And he has a concern, and I do as well, that things could have been doctored in those records.
So that's part of the concern.
But I'm for full transparency.
We all are, maximum transparency.
The president is as well.
There's no daylight between him and the Republicans in Congress,
and we'll continue to advocate for that to let the people see the records
and draw the whatever conclusions they will.
Now, here's Clapper, Clip 14, in the good old days,
saying Trump's a Russian agent.
And this is a year after they say, oh, we knew it wasn't real,
so we said don't use it, even though they created it.
Now he's changed his tune.
This is him on TV yesterday.
So first play him five, six years ago, and then let's go to the new club.
Here, this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer of Vladimir Putin is.
He knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president.
You're saying that Russia is handling President Trump as an asset?
That seems to be the, that's the appearance to me.
Oh, but you didn't create it.
You didn't do it, which we now know.
I wasn't looking at the clock.
There's not time to play the other clip.
I'm going to come back to get to him yesterday.
Oh, woe is me.
I think they're going to come arrest me.
And we got Obama, you know, saying, oh, yeah, clearly, you know, 2018, Trump's a Russian.
You saw them hell they were saying it last year.
They just, they bring forward lies for a year, and then they go away for a little while,
and they bring it back again.
they've recycled the Russia crap the last eight and a half years, nine years,
six, seven times.
And that's why I knew, if you guess, this new Epstein stuff will just be recycled crap as well.
And now we know it is.
We'll be right back.
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The judge department has announced the part of,
of a strike horse, that's what they're calling it,
to go after Obama and Clapper, Brendan Comey, and others for their treasonous conspiracy
to overturn the 2016 election and then the ongoing information.
Tulsi Gabbard is set to release stuff far more damning,
not just on the crossfire hurricane, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia lie,
but also the Democrats working in 2020 with the communist Chinese
to have the mail-in ballots and then cover that up and more.
But we have people like Clapper.
Comy, Brennan, Obama, who all ran around 2017, 2018, 2019.
Hell, Comey was doing it in 2020, 2020, 23.
He never stopped.
Oh, yeah, we know he's a Russian agent.
Yeah, we have the proof.
But now they claim, oh, they didn't agree with the intelligence,
though they demanded the intelligence assessment.
And they said don't use it.
But the documents show otherwise.
So here's Clapper.
Back in 2017, said, oh, yeah, Trump's a Russian agent.
and then here he is last night saying, oh, he fears he'll be indicted.
Here it is.
I think this past weekend is illustrative of what a great case officer of Vladimir Putin is.
He knows how to handle an asset, and that's what he's doing with the president.
You're saying that Russia is handling President Trump as an asset?
That seems to be the – that's the appearance to me.
When the director says that she's referred these filings to the Justice,
Department for criminal investigation.
Tonight, we're told they formed what is called a strike force.
Do you have concerns that they will attempt to prosecute you?
Well, certainly I do.
You know, after eight and a half years of this,
and I don't know of an intelligence product that was more scrutinized,
more investigated than that product was by numerous people.
you know, it's very disconcerting.
It really is.
And I take seriously when the President of the United States accuses me
of being a participant in a treasonous conspiracy, which is ridiculous.
Yeah, what's your reaction to that?
It's ridiculous.
It just is untrue.
So what will you do if they come after you?
What is your plan?
Well, I'll lawyer up, I suppose.
I already have.
You've already hired attorneys.
case of an anticipation that this Trump Justice Department could try to prosecute.
With that sort of perpetual attorneys since I left the government in 2017.
Former Director James Clapper, thank you for joining us tonight to respond to this.
Thanks for you for having me.
Appreciate your time.
Clapper's as dirty as it gets when he was the NSA director.
Remember that?
He testified to Congress.
What was that 10 years ago?
You can pull the club up.
He said, and Clapper lies about NSA spying on Americans.
He says, no, the NSA has never spying.
on an American inside America.
I mean, that's like saying, again, the Atlantic Ocean doesn't have water in it.
Or that, you know, pelicans don't fly.
I mean, it's just, it's just that it's just over the top.
And later he said, oh, I'm sorry, I misspoke.
Oh, my goody, goody gum drops.
And now we, of course, have documents that he spot on me directly and Trump.
myself starting in 2007 and then expanded in 2013 on to Trump and myself again
kind of a big deal we have all those documents we put them out over the years new ones
the last few months and zero coverage by the Mike Benz's of the world I'm not even against
him he does a great job it's a great former government you know analyst and speechwriter for
Trump and advisor I love Mike Benz but I mean I just single him out because he's on he's on
the beat of everything.
Bongino, at least a year ago, got some of the secret documents that we'd also gotten
and showed the 20-something people that were targeted, starting in 2016 for destruction.
I'm on the list, of course, by the deep state, by the ongoing stay-behind networks.
But that's not about me.
That's about the crimes they committed.
But just it's not fashionable to defend Alex Jones or anybody else that's actually under attack.
when it's meat and potatoes, proof of all of this.
And we've still got the same people running around on TV,
Clapper, Brennan Comey, all of them saying,
we didn't spying anybody.
Although the hell you didn't.
It's declassified now.
So I had this stuff in 2017.
So, yeah, it's a treasonous conspiracy to say Trump's a Russian agent
and put $2 million of funding in when Obama left
in the Defense Authorization Act to undermine and attack Trump
and its key supporters like yours truly with all the law.
and run by the CIA and Justice Department.
And I haven't even told you yet, I haven't covered it yet here, Kamala Harris's husband
and Wilkie Farr, one of the most nasty Democrat law firms that Trump singled out for
lawfare, has now taken over or come into the case with Paul Weiss, the other nasty
top Democrat firm in their ongoing attacks on us because we're beating them with the truth.
And that's a whole other soap opera.
But other than Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon covering what's happened to us,
no one of any renowned touches it.
It's all complete total smoking gun.
So kind of a big deal.
Targeting journalists, targeting talk show hosts, everything you've seen happen since then.
Then we have the FBI on the stand admitting they were sent in at me,
just to get the lawsuits going.
We have undercover FBI, CIA, admitting that they investigated me for 10 years, starting with Obama,
could find nothing.
So they cooked up this lie that I did this stuff with Sandy Hook, had show trials produced by HBO.
And that's just a window into these people.
Imagine everything else they're doing.
And then we get to see Clapper saying, we never said Trump was a Russian, and we never did any of this.
And this was the most scrutinized intelligence ever.
What does that mean?
I mean the most scrutinized BS you created ever?
and then if they're not removed
all their minions are still in
they'll just cling
to the bureaucracy
and they will continue to attack
even though Trump's in office again
the American people
trump anybody that supports him prominently
and then they're going to go to town when they get back into power
in three and a half years.
So yeah, Trump and the DOJ
that he's got has to go
after these people with the full power of the law
and justice
because as Gabbard has said
as Trump has said, this is open and shut.
And Gabbard has a lot of guts.
Because believe me, Ratcliffe was in this job.
He's now the CIA director.
He was the director of National Intelligence,
and he didn't release any of this in Trump's first term.
And now there's even more.
And the word is from Matt Taney and others,
and already predicted this because I know,
that the surveillance and the deep state NSA crap went on.
They're in the Biden administration,
and they spyed on Trump's campaign again.
And I predict within the next two weeks,
Tulsi Gabbard will release.
that. It's been given to Congress. Notice she brought out a congressional report yesterday.
She already had it all, but she did it the proper way she gave it to Congress. She reports to
Congress, not just the president. That's oversight. And so it's all going to come out.
I've already experienced it at point blank range. There's nothing like experiencing.
So I don't know all about this books. It would take days to go over the stuff they've done to us.
And they're harassing Boy Scouts, so they never got anything, even though they tried to
set us up.
It's been interesting, though, to just watch them be able to get away with all this,
and they just think they can do anything.
Here's a Gutfeld.
The nice summation of this, here it is.
Hillary, and they get activated, and suddenly they won't be mad at Trump anymore for not
releasing the Epstein files or whatever he had to do with any of it.
It's preposterous that we were talking about Hillary Clinton's emails again in year of 2025.
We spent years on this story.
Let me, you, we had to take this story seriously for years, and it was false.
It wasn't false.
No, no, no.
For people to understand what happened, all right?
Because the problem with this story is that nobody knows what you're talking about.
When Trump won in 2016, the intel community concluded that Russia didn't have a hand in his victory.
Instead of accepting the inclusion, Obama determined and wanted a new conclusion.
So he sent Brennan running to come up with a new collusion, that there was some kind of trivial involvement that then they could feed out to the media.
And coincidentally, dozens of news organizations said that Trump was in bed with Putin and that somehow Brennan knew.
Brennan knew, how did he know?
There was no proof.
There was no proof.
Why did Durham do nothing then?
But no, let me finish.
They amplified a false conclusion that Trump colluded with Russia in 2016.
We had to spend years dealing with that.
And now we're actually getting investigation, and you're saying, no, you know what?
You guys should just move on.
You say the same effing thing about Biden's brain.
You guys spent four years telling us that Joe Biden was fine.
You covered up for an invalid.
And then when we get the truth, it's like, oh, you know what?
We've got to look forward.
We got to start talking about what's there.
And you can bring up Epstein all you want.
We, unlike Democrats, we can hand.
handle two things, three things, four things at once.
Doesn't see what again?
No.
Have you been listening to the right lately?
The right is more on top of Epstein than the Democrats are.
The Democrats never cared about Epstein until they saw a political motivation.
The right was into the Epstein story because women were being sex traffic.
We actually cared.
But now you're like, ooh, Epstein, a political angle.
This is fantastic.
Save me your selective outrage.
Yeah, that's my point.
I mean, we know the left what they're going to do.
They're going to take when I criticize Trump and look at the bad and say,
juries out, and then I look at the good and then point out what I believe is going on that's being proven right.
We're about 90% there now, and I don't look at pieces and want to add it to be right.
It's lining up with what I, from the pieces I had was seeing,
basically like Trump's tax returns were promised all this evil and corruption.
It's the nothing burger.
It's going to be, we already know, that it's recycled.
old lies that they think you don't remember.
But they baited Trump into blowing up over it.
But what did Roger and I two weeks ago and last week predict?
That Trump would say, go ahead and release this stuff from the trials, the grand juries, the rest of it,
and that Democrats would suddenly say they don't want it.
Now members of Congress, members of the New York government, the state government,
the federal Obama judge in Florida, they don't want it released.
Here it is.
Watch it.
Obama judge blocks Trump's request to release Epstein files
as House panel demands subpoena a Bill and Hillary Clinton's pro.
And here's another one.
House panel votes to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton over possible links to Gisland Maxwell.
Now, who runs the House of Representatives?
You had a bunch of Republicans joined with Democrats
because they thought it was the right thing to do
to subpoena the DOJ and the subpoena of the Clinton.
and everybody else.
So there you go.
So you got the House members, the Democrats, that aren't in the intelligence ops.
They're like, yeah, yeah, release it.
It's going to get Trump.
And then in that, now they're going after the Clintons, and we know there's meat and potatoes there.
The jury's not out on that.
There's their eyeballs in human trafficking, sex slavery, devil worship, but you name it.
And I'm going to do the deep dive on that coming up.
Too much, yeah, but it's just insane.
And I predict the judges in New York that ran the Gislane and Epstein cases,
the more recent ones, will say no.
Because they've already sealed it before at the request of who?
Who?
Marine Comey, who's given the PEDYT cases and all these other high-profile petal cases.
Why does she from all over the country get the cases?
Because her dad is the FBI controller of the master file,
just like Jagger Hoover, with the CIA.
and Mossad.
That's how this works.
So when Trump said they've been in control the file,
people go, that's preposterous. No, that's a fact.
So it goes to show, of course they take bad stuff about themselves out
and add a bunch of BSN.
And if they actually produce something real,
okay, but if we see something pop,
and then it turns out to be fake later,
remember how much lying this very group does.
This is the cover-up artist.
This is the thoroughbreds of this.
So I'm sorry this isn't cut and dried talking points for everybody.
This is my thinking and the best information I have.
And if I'm wrong and Trump gets implicated in pedophilia
and we see the real proof,
then I will absolutely oppose him 100%
and I will go with the information.
But I've experienced the lives of these people.
This very group running the attacks on me,
planning child porn on us, trying to get me put in prison,
FBI office, actually in Connecticut, said no, you're the victim.
But it was on its face to set up.
And I've had to do all this other stuff.
So this very group is trying to destroy me and my family and put me in prison.
I put my co-host in prison.
So I know they're evil.
So all I'm asking is for the populist and MAGA people and former manga to hold your horses
and don't just only jump on stuff Trump supposedly done with no proof and only attack Trump.
and only attack Trump 24-7.
Because it's the Democrats that we know are super evil
and we know are above their eyeballs
in openly promoting pedophilia,
sexualization of children,
and mass human trafficking,
and mayorcas and all of them.
I mean, holy mackerel.
I got to tell you, I tune in to talk radio,
I tune into the blogosphere, the conservat sphere,
and it's 90% we're done with Trump,
and he's the devil,
and all they're talking about is Trump
and just frothing, frothing,
nothing. You should go where the truth is with Trump, as we're doing, and cover it wherever
it leads. But to just say, you know what, just in case he did something wrong, I'm going to go ahead
and cut bait on him right now. You just ate it and abated the bad of the deep state Democrats for
sure. So just remember what Trump's standing in the way of right now. He's not perfect,
but he's a seawall against these people coming in like a tsunami. So use your brains,
people out there.
And again, people say, well, wait a minute,
you viciously attacked Trump 18 days ago. No, I didn't.
I said he's acting very suspicious. There's the reasons it can be happening.
This is going to be a giant disaster. He's the one behind it.
And then I war-gamed it all out and got all the information.
And it's looking good for Trump right now.
But there's twist and turns. We see some real credible stuff.
We'll assess it and go where the truth is.
But we're in a very dangerous situation.
He is shutting down their money, shutting down their operations,
doing a great job on so many fronts, and we shouldn't all be about, I mean, here's an example,
historic example.
Rasputin was an Orthodox priest near the fall of the old czars for the communist revolution
of October 1917.
And there were rumors Rasputin was having sex with the elite women, and maybe there was kids
and devil worship.
And basically the court fell.
And the Tsars didn't have their support because of that.
And that's how the communist basically took over.
So these type of things historically, this has happened in other dynasties,
this is the type of thing once the public gets in its head.
And then they got the communist out of that.
So V.I. Lenin, who was a devil worshiper.
So just be careful, folks.
Be careful and be deliberative about all this.
and remember who is furnishing us all this information.
The Democrats.
Use your heads.
Who's laying out that mousetrap with a piece of cheese on it?
And again, the way Trump acted and the way he was mean to his constituents, I get it.
But let's not be a bunch of babies.
And because of his fear and his panicking, that's uncharacteristic,
go ahead and just believe anything that the Democrats put out.
and you see the first thing they put out is just nothing burgers
use your heads
now here's Tulsi Gabbard
part of her incredible breakdown yesterday
it's like 20 minutes long it's up at bandout video
and implores.com and realogs Jones
here she is in summation about the treason
the deliberate false intelligence
and then the nice little piece about Hillary
that we reported at the time on a bunch of
tranquilizers serious health problems
from our sources in the Secret Service
everything we told you back then
vindicated, here it is.
Religious organizations in which State Department officials offered in exchange for supporting Secretary
Clinton's campaign for the presidency significant increases in financing from the State Department.
They also had documents that showed the patronage of the State Department to State Department employees
who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
There were high-level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote,
psycho-emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness,
and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers.
Then CIA director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence
and relied on dubious substandard sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin
developed a quote unquote clear preference for Trump.
Brennan and the I see misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked steel dossier to assess quote-unquote Russia's plans and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value when he knew that it was discredited.
The intelligence community excluded significant intelligence and ignored or selectively quoted reliable intelligence that contradicted the intelligence community assessment's key findings on Putin's alleged support for Trump, including.
this intelligence reporting would have exposed the ICA's claim as implausible, if not ridiculous.
The intelligence community assessment omitted reliably sourced information,
such as how some Russian intelligence officials were, quote-unquote,
planning for candidate Hillary Clinton's victory, while others assess neither Trump nor Clinton
would respect Russia's interests.
As was reflected in the ODNI documents that we released on Friday, multiple intelligence
community assessments released in the months leading up to the November 2016 election,
concluded that Russia had neither the intent nor capability to impact the outcome of the U.S.
election. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. There were high-level DNC emails that
detailed evidence of Hillary's, quote, psycho-emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger,
aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily
regimen of heavy tranquilizers.
Then CIA
director.
They were a famously collapsing on 9-11
in New York.
And I told you all of this. She has
convulsions. She has a black ambulance.
She screams and yells,
throws all these fits.
And I knew that,
not just from the Secret Service at the time,
in New York police, you told us.
I also had that
from Blackwater people, I
know, very closely.
who witnessed it.
And then I got told about it by other Blackwater people.
Because it was Blackwater mainly doing security of the State Department
back when she was Secretary of State under Obama for eight years.
And they just said she would start screaming and frothing
and beat the walls and throw things at people.
And you came out in the news later.
They'd throw ashtrays at Bill Clinton, marble ashtrays and stuff.
I mean, she is a psychotic demon.
And she's always been like that.
but everything we told you was true.
You think I just made that up?
We broke all that.
2015, 2016.
I mean, the woman is a psychotic.
And on election night, she literally had to be sedated, injected.
She was just throwing fits for hours.
That's why she didn't come out and do a speech that night, a concession speech.
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The stack of just the greatest hits of evil of the Clinton's,
Jeffrey Epstein's Handler, Gislane Maxwell, her family.
Alistair Crowley devil worshippers on record
Jack Parsons
OSS CIA
Mossade
high level whistleblowers that they're conjuring
demons to give them advanced knowledge of the universe
which I've told you for decades is what the globalist are all doing
then it's in the WikiLeaks they're doing
demon conjuring John Podesta
in between having seven-year-old's liver to the hot tub
for his pleasure for his entertainment
that are well trained
and the $50-something thousand dollars of hot dogs being delivered to Obama.
And then I start thinking about thousands of confirmed reports.
The CIA and the finders operation and just Mayorkas and the millions of people and 300,000 kids and disappearing them on purpose and confirmed sex slavery and slave labor.
And just all of this is right there.
and then people only care about Epstein.
And then I'm not saying don't care.
I'm not saying it is an elite pedophile organization besides CIA, I'm 6.
I'm not saying Trump didn't act very suspicious 18 days ago.
We now know why.
It's overwhelming.
I wouldn't say 100%, but it's approximating into my first analysis.
That they control the file.
They spiked embarrassing stuff.
Nothing real.
Nothing that's actually criminal.
and that Trump understands now it's a big setup.
But I just don't know how I get people to care about this stuff that's cut and dry.
We've got a guest coming on next hour about it.
It's really smart.
We'll get his take on it.
And my problem is I've got so much knowledge on these subjects that when I started last night and today,
telling the crew to get me this, get me that, get me this.
And then I've got all this giant stack and dozens of videos.
Just one of these things makes me physically feel violent.
And it's frustrating because I don't even know what to do.
I mean, the Democrats, every time I research stuff nonpartisanly,
are all over pedophilia and Satan worship.
And they publicly promote it at their parades and their programs and target for six,
six-year-olds, how to devil worship and how to conjure demons to attack your parents.
And I just said that.
If you're a new listener, that sounds crazy.
Just look it up.
You can't make this up, okay?
And when that's happened a few years ago, I went down to Target and they were selling it.
It's everywhere.
They are openly Satan worshippers.
They are externalizing.
And there's articles about how the second fastest, you know, growing religion of Democrats is Satanism.
I saw one of their gay pride parades a few years ago when I was in Omaha.
when I was just downtown, about a couple thousand people marched by,
and a bunch of them had pentegrams and stuff all over them.
And I noticed a bunch of it was Target apparel.
I mean, Target knows there's a market.
Now, there it is.
Let's summon demons, a coloring book for children.
You're like, oh, that's a joke.
Now they had a whole section on it.
Four gay pride month, which is really Satan month.
Then you research it in these Crowley cults,
that the protesters admittedly in their emails are in.
Oh, my wife got hit by car.
Well, it's good.
I have a ritual tomorrow night.
A Philema.
You know what that is?
That's devil worship.
Yeah, you see that shirt?
I see this gay pride parade marched by me.
I saw a bunch of men wearing that shirt.
And then I'm on the elevator at the hotel down the street later that day.
This guy's giving me dirty looks.
I look up.
And he's literally looking at me like it wants to kill me.
I took a picture of it.
I posted the Nemad X account.
on my wife's ex
like three years ago.
He was wearing
that shirt
and looked at me
like he wanted to kill me.
I took a picture of it in the elevator.
It's out there on X.
That was Twitter.
So these people are all
over the place.
And we're all endlessly talking about
what is Trump hiding?
And it becomes the ultimate
who done it.
And that's great.
In fact, let's never talk about the Democrats
keeping babies alive and stealing their organs.
Let's never talk about the CIA in Germany
in a government program, 30,000 kids
given to pedophiles, taken from Christian families
to create a new culture.
Let's not talk about the John Podesta emails
or his brother in a full magazine spread
in the Washington Post
about his dangerous art, all pedophilic.
No, I agree.
Anybody talking about that
is covering up Trump
and is a sellout.
And so I now back Satanism being taught in the schools, public and private.
I now back Pride Month.
I now back Drag Queen convicted pedophile story time all over the world.
I now back cutting all our sons' penises off that Trump's stopping.
I now support men and women's sports because Trump is the bad guy,
and I'm only going to talk about Trump from now on.
And I apologize forever talking about the Democrats being Satanist
and a cult of Alist of Alistaira Kraliites at the top.
Of course, I'm being sarcastic.
It is a no-brainer that we should spend 90% of our time on all the confirmed evil they're doing.
And then as new stuff comes out on Trump, look at it and see if it's real.
And then if it's bad, go there.
But instead, there is a mass bailing on Trump, and the Democrats are so happy about it.
And some will say, well, you tore her into Trump 18 days ago.
Well, he was as young because he came out and obviously he was behind that.
And I said, it's going to be a stride's end effect.
I've never seen any evidence.
Has he made a secret deal for them to roll over, or do they spike the file?
I don't know.
He better get his act together.
Or there could be something there and if it comes out.
Let's do it.
But now we know more of what went on.
And so we don't need a Salem witch trial of Trump without any real evidence.
We need to have the public trial of the globalists with all the evidence.
And then if it turns out Trump's involved in all this stuff, then he will pay.
It's so simple.
But you either have people that are mindlessly totaled Trump supporters and say it's treason to even question any policy he's engaged in.
And it's impossible.
And Trump hasn't done anything wrong.
And nothing's going on.
Or you've got people that just say, no, Trump's a total sellout.
Nothing he's doing is good.
It's all garbage.
It's all lies.
And that's not true either.
Trump's doing a lot of good.
And I'm going to get into, though, in the end.
interest of the facts, the allegations being brought forward very strategically now against Trump,
by Epstein's brother, and by the corporate media.
We're going to analyze those.
But first, I want to talk about something that broke a few days ago that we've now put a little compilation of information together for you.
And that's some of the great stuff that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is doing.
Heavily restricting the poison shots, moving to get fluoride out of the water.
States are already doing it with leadership.
getting the poison dyes out,
pointing out how toxic many of these pharmaceuticals are.
I mean, and then we learn he's being overridden by some of the administration.
We've exposed them.
And I've got serious issues with Susie Wiles and Bondi and their consultancy with Pfizer.
And when we criticize bad action in the administration
against what Trump said he wanted, that's not an attack on Trump.
That's us, the constituents keeping him true.
Because I also get attacked when I say that.
the average Trump worshippers just says you don't have proof of that
the hell I don't it came out last week
Kennedy was overreged in the Justice Department
federal court ruled fluoride be taken out of the water
with federal reports in the class action suit
and Pam Bondi has gone with the inspector general
and has counter sued and has done an injunction to keep fluoride in the water
and then I see comments like this
I talked about it on Tim Dillon
and then look at this commenter
and you see I'm not trying to
fight with you people. I'm trying to get you to think.
We've got to come together here.
You understand when bad stuff happens in administration
that's against what we voted for Trump on,
we don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
We go in and find out who's doing the bad stuff and we
targeted it. And nine times out of ten, we put pressure
on Trump, and then it comes back.
He does the right thing.
We're his constituents. We're supposed
to tell him what we want.
If it's constitutional, we're not
an occult. So
Luke Radowski
links to a part of the Tim Dillon interview.
He says, very troubling report from Real Alex Jones
that explains what's going on in the White House.
He makes Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles.
They were taking the floor out of the water.
The DOJ blocked it.
Kennedy basically blocked
Glitbittance's keeping it.
It's almost like the Trump administration brought in Kennedy
so he can menace the chemical companies in Big Pharma,
and then Big Pharma will just come make bigger donations.
I'm not saying that's what Trump's doing,
but there's people in there that can use that for lobbying power.
Pan Bondi said the White House chief of staff
ran one of the biggest consulting firms
and their main client is Pfizer, Tim Dillon.
And then this guy, Michael T. Shepard, says,
and this is just indicative. I'm not signaling him out.
Alex Jones and Tim Dillon, the comedian,
all caps, have the inside scoop at the White House.
Okay, sure, I'm listening to Trump.
Oh, thanks, though.
That's cult-like behavior.
That's the opposite of people that use free Trump supporters
and say everything he does is bad when it's not.
and because of this type of sheep behavior, that's what's turning people off.
Hey, buddy, boy.
You know how hot Tim Dillon's been for about two years?
You understand he just had dinner for three hours of the vice president.
If you don't watch the podcast, you know not.
Do you know that I talk to anybody I want to in the administration?
They call me all the time.
I get trouble the phone today.
You understand I talk to his confidant every day, Roger Stone.
you understand that when I say
Pam Bondi blocked getting fluoride out of the water
when it was a done deal
that's even in the news dumbass
and I'm not trying to be mean to you jerk
but I want the fluoride out of the floor in RQ
and giving people cancer, Lord, fertility, you son of a bitch.
What the fuck's your problem?
People are like you
you act like there's some magic mountain up there
and Trump knows everything and does everything and just whatever he says in his speech is what we follow.
He means well overall.
He's doing a lot of great work.
But he's surrounded by 3 million employees.
And a bunch of them don't do what they're supposed to and do side jobs, especially powerful people that are in there.
Even though Trump told Elon, no, we're not giving you your NASA guy and we're cutting your funding.
He goes, well, God, I thought I'd at least get to do my NASA stuff.
They said, no, get out of here.
This isn't how it works.
Talk to folks who were in the meeting.
and I'm not quid pro quo, but I was supporting that NASA,
and he does it cheaper and everybody else does a great job,
and I was supportive of that, just the raw research and everything.
And Trump said he was for it, but they took that away from Elon and just said,
they threw his ass out of there.
Because you know Trump doesn't let lobbyists get in there,
but then if it's Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles and the American Chemical Society
and, you know, association that makes billions every year putting that crap in the water,
well, it's okay.
I don't want to attack Susie Wiles.
I don't want to attack Bammondi,
but I have to come out and point that out.
So we don't get a Mars mission now.
You know, they told Elon, they said,
you can be part of the Golden Doe make money off that.
He said, I don't want to be part of military stuff.
Remember that?
He likes his Mars mission.
I mean, because he's obsessed with it.
He admits he's got Asperger's, ultra-high functioning.
That's what he likes.
I like it, too.
Just the raw research out of it is incredible.
Just the raw booster data and everything else we get.
militarily makes it dominant.
I mean, it's a no-brainer.
But he said, go ahead and take away my EV mandate.
He didn't buck on that.
That's a lie when they said Elon wanted that.
No, he wanted his NASA thing.
And I know the NASA guy that he wanted had problems with Trump before,
and I get all that.
I'm not taking aside.
My point is these people don't know policy like,
I'm not stealing you out.
You're just one example.
Michael T. Shepherd.
Michael T. Shepherd doesn't spend 14 to 18 hours a day studying
and all the sources.
Michael D. Sheppard doesn't talk to Trump.
He doesn't talk to Elon Musk.
He doesn't talk to Tucker Carlson.
He doesn't talk to administration officials, three of them yesterday, high level.
He doesn't talk to the people at the CIA and the NSA and defense intelligence.
He doesn't talk to General Flynn.
He doesn't talk to the Border Patrol union heads.
He just sits back and says, who are these people?
I trust Trump.
Well, buddy, pal, sweetheart, I'm trying to keep Trump true to his policies
and trying to get him not to destroy himself with that strides and effect saying,
don't look at this and you're not my supporter if you go there.
But let's talk about something important.
Kennedy has done something, again, amazing.
Didn't even think about this on the radar.
You know, it's come out all these thousands of cases in Europe here as well,
it's the same all over, where you'll be in a car accident.
you're not even in a coma, you're totally viable,
and they just put you under and harvest your organs.
And then they tell your family, you're in a coma, put you in a coma ward.
During COVID, it was even better.
They said, oh, you can't see them.
And then they wait a few weeks while they get all the orders to come in from the organ harvesting company.
So they get an even higher dollar when they can blood type you and then get it to do a database.
And then there's bidders.
And then they can, instead of making a few hundred thousand dollars on your body,
they can make up to a million dollars on your body.
And they tell people babies have died of poor.
women, they take them to a special wing and harvest their organs.
I know about that from Governor Northam.
Remember all that?
So now HHS has put out this big report confirming totally viable people are being
murdered.
My dad told me that when I was 15 years old.
Oh, why do you know that?
He owned a hospital.
Co-owned one in Dallas.
And later on 60 minutes, it came out exactly what he said was true.
Not his hospital, other ones.
I'm going on there 30 years telling you that story.
And now it's all come out and it's all confirmed.
That's what we ought to be worried about is he's out of control ghouls.
Here's the report.
The law firm of Wilkie, Far, and Gallagher is the very top.
That's not it.
That's not it.
That's not it.
That's not it.
That's the law fair one.
I did a full report.
Yeah, well, yeah, but I wanted it.
I wanted it with my intro from last night.
I did a special intro on this.
I did a special intro on this last night.
and that is the thing I asked for an hour before the show.
I'm not mad.
I just, I just really wanted that one because I, well, you know what?
Here's the problem.
It's okay.
I just did my intro anyway, so cut out this mistake from the live show later.
We can still have victory.
Yes, we can defeat these killers.
And then you can just take my intro that I just did, cut out this big disaster area,
and then put the clip on the end.
Yeah, let's go ahead and go to clip two.
Here it is.
My dad knew organ harvesters in Dallas, and he said, don't sign your organ donor card.
They've got corrupt hospitals where if you're totally viable, they take your organs.
Oh, Jesus.
And then I said, Dad, you're crazy, but I didn't sign the organ donor card.
And then my dad opened to hospital too in Dallas.
Then when I was a decade later at my grandparents' house before my grandpa died, watched it 60 minutes,
and it was Dallas, Texas, and Chicago caught killing people that were viable to take their organs tonight.
The 60 Minutes Exposé.
And it was the freaking hospital my dad told me about.
So the baby's worth $500,000.
Who's paying that?
In the chain of delivery, just on time delivery.
I mean, each organ's worth a lot of money.
And so, but if you kill them right on the spot, they're like, why are we wasting this seven pounds of meat?
So see, if they can keep them alive, and now they've built these new wings.
They've built new wings.
No, I can shut, pull up, they have wings.
where they go, oh, we consider the baby dead.
The mother decided it didn't live.
If she decides we resuscitate and it lives, but it didn't resuscitate.
It's flesh.
It's a legalese.
It's passed into a special ward with doctors that make a few million a year.
And the little flesh ball is kept alive and comfortable until all the orders come in, the plains land,
and they take the organs, then they take the blood,
and they take the skin, Joe.
You see how it work?
Now you know why.
You're freaking me out with his voice.
No, no, but see, it's a southern loving voice.
If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
The infant would be delivered.
The infant would be kept comfortable.
The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.
and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers.
See, that's why I know about this.
My dad never got fully into it.
He decided to get out of it.
And he decided to get out of it.
You're legitimately freaking me the fuck out.
Nationwide hospitals have been caught killing people for their organs
because I have to know they're hospitals where they kill people and take your organs.
Some of the most wicked bandits out there folks are in the medical care.
In just a few minutes, you can go use it.
any major search engine and search the terms hospital caught stealing organs or hospital
caught stealing liver or kidneys or hospital caught stealing corneous.
Where I live, Austin, Texas, they've been caught repeatedly at city run hospitals stealing
people's corneous.
They do not ask, they do not care if you are an organ donor or not.
They're already stealing them.
We tell people 16, 17 years ago this was going on, and they said there's,
No way you're crazy.
Just like when my dad, who's a physician, told me when I went to get my driver's license,
he said, don't sign the organ donor card.
And I said, why?
And he goes, the word is from surgeons I know at some hospitals, they won't save you
because they can get a couple hundred thousand dollars.
That was back in, you know, the early 90s.
I remember growing up in Dallas and my dad works in the medical field,
not as his dentist and oral surgeon, but he at one time owned a hospital in Mesquite, Texas,
with one of the partner.
She's pretty successful.
And he told me that he was told that other hospitals were killing people and harvesting
their organs.
So I shouldn't sign my organ donor card.
A shocking case out of Richmond.
A man was declared brain dead and was prepared to donate his organs.
Though, hard to believe.
He was, in fact, alive.
36-year-old T.J. Hoover had his life changed forever.
On October 25th, 2021, he was admitted.
to Baptist Health Richmond's emergency room.
He was experiencing cardiac arrest and was deemed code blue.
We were told T.J. had no reflexes, no responses, no brain waves, no brain activity.
His eyes started open and not just opening. He was tracking around looking to see, you know, what was going on.
We were told that was just reflexes, just a normal instinct. He's not there.
But that wasn't the case. In fact, he wasn't dead. He was very much alive.
I feel like they were trying to choose my brother.
They were going to sacrifice my brother's life to save.
How many ever other people?
Doctors signed off for organ retrieval, but the patient wasn't fully dead.
When T.J. woke up, why was he then sedated and paralyzed instead of taking back to the ICU immediately to have a repeat neural exam?
Why was T.J.'s life not honored?
And he treated like a patient.
The more that comes out, it's still shocking for me, and I'm living it.
You know, I said it's everyone else's story.
It's our reality.
And it's shocking to hear some of what he went through.
Alvin Human Services is planning to reform the U.S. organ donation system
after a federal investigation found some donor organizations encouraged doctors to harvest organs far too early.
What happened in these cases fractured the doctor-patient relationship
and saw patients subjected to pain and suffering that should never have occurred.
Under RFK Jr., the Department of Health and Human Services, released this report showing that U.S. hospitals have been harvesting organs from patients who weren't dead.
Organ harvesting. Another conspiracy theory proven true.
The public trust in the donation system is eroded after reports that dozens of supposedly dead donors actually showed signs of life.
There were clearly some things that happened that I think could constitute euthanasia.
I mean, if the patient's dying, but they take the patient's organs before they die, that's euthanasia.
Well, there you go. See, too evil to believe.
And folks, it's a lot worse than that. My dad told me that hospitals in Dallas, just like the movie coma, made in the 70s.
He said, that's not a movie. That's a documentary. He said, especially poor people in their families, they tell them, oh, they're in a coma. They're in a coma ward.
and then they go take them and just keep them alive until they can get higher bidders for it.
And then Governor Northam later admitted that.
And he's a organ harvesting doctor.
And so during COVID they would lock down whole areas and then kill people and steal their organs.
Remember, you couldn't go see your family or whatever.
That's so they can kill them.
That a $53,000 bonus to innovate them.
And it was the same program worldwide.
And they just murdered people en masse and took their organs.
Not all hospitals are doing it, but they're expanding their secret society.
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Joseph Pepperoni is our guest,
and people send me stuff all the time and say,
why aren't you covering this?
And it's because I didn't know.
I'm not omnipresent, far from it.
And so I went and looked at his work,
and it is just very well researched,
very informative.
I mean, I have a lot of knowledge about this stuff, and I knew 95% it was accurate.
I checked a few things I didn't know about it, and it was true.
So this guy has more knowledge than I do on some of the occult stuff and these globalists.
So I was extremely impressed.
I got chills when I watched, because I saw a listener on X, like, hey, why aren't you covering this?
When we weren't you?
I'm like, I don't know about it.
And it was your breakdown on what James O'Keefe got with the, finally, the feds covered it all up,
but he got inside footage inside the Epstein Island Temple
and what was written on the chalkboard,
the black magic books,
the idols that are in there.
And it was just really powerful what you came up with.
It's so much more.
And it's really a window into these secret societies
and how they operate.
And we've done more research on Gisland Maxwell
and her whole family, all of them.
They're in with Alistair Crowley himself going back.
Jack Parsons, I mean,
their grandfathers are, you know, literally priest in serious Satan cults.
So it just goes on and on.
And then we really need the public to focus on this.
And I watched a lot of your material.
I'm not sure your view currently on Trump.
I think the jury's out on him acting very suspiciously the last 18 days.
But my issue is, well, I'll cover wherever that goes, Joseph.
But what about the meat and potatoes we've got on who did go to Epstein Island
and what's really happening.
So we got about two, three minutes to break.
Give us a little synopsis about yourself
and then what you're going to be covering
and we'll come back and go through
this amazing research you've done.
Well, thank you so much for having me on the show.
I'm honestly one of your biggest fans.
So I watch your show every day.
It's on loop.
Even when I sleep, I pretty much MK Ultrad myself.
So that I've always been into truth in conspiracies.
And a couple of months ago,
I started taking Methylene Blue,
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and it just like unlocked something.
Like I feel like I was able to connect the dots.
So like I think it's detoxifying my pineal gland like straight up.
No one talks about that, but I think that's one of the benefits of it personally.
But the same time I started taking it, that's when I started making the short form contents of like,
I'm researching this stuff and my goal was to make it simple and just entertaining and impactful for people so they can understand.
because it's really dark stuff that I've been connecting the dots of.
Because I have a lot of questions.
So I make the videos that as soon as I learn something, I put it out.
I share the knowledge.
Well, I want to thank the listeners, even the ones that were mean to me, because I didn't know about you.
Folks, comment in the videos.
If you've got guest ideas and then I check them out and they look informative, they're going to be on the show.
But I just want the listeners to please stop.
I don't know everything far from it.
Yeah, I mean, one of the things those.
I was going to say, I'm going to talk about, you know, the Epstein's island and how he was really just his role was a priest of it.
Like, they were worshipping fallen angels.
They were doing like blood rituals, torturing children, burning babies, performing sacrifices.
And like the Epstein files, they're not going to have that in there.
So it's like, no thank you.
Keep the files.
We don't even want them because it's not, you know, it took them 100 years to give us the JCP files.
It's always a limited hangout.
And you got Marine Comey, obviously part of the cult, whose job is,
always minimize it.
Yeah.
Like they give us the JFK files after 100 years after they
butchered them. We don't want them. Like we already figured it out
years ago. And also, one of my
close friends is George Papadopoulos and he was in the center of
Russia gates. So I knew it was a hoax from day one.
The FBI spent millions of dollars for what?
I was about to say, our own intelligence on the ground,
street smarts is always better than, exactly. Why are we
waiting for the FBI and Marine Comey to give us her files
that have the truth?
He's obviously going to put other crap in there.
100%.
I don't understand.
This is literally like, it's clown world.
It's all, I think it's WW Theatrics.
That's my main analysis.
Still right there.
Joseph Pepperoni, incredible researcher and filmmaker.
We'll be right back with him.
I was hoping you had some of the Alex Jones ones.
How is Alex?
He was great.
He lost a lot of weight.
I saw he's getting like, yeah, he's ready for the next big.
My friend Sean Johnson's training him.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he gets up every morning.
He works out for hours.
He's lost.
I think he's lost 70 pounds at this point.
He looks fantastic, man.
He looks fantastic.
He looks like he's 20 years younger.
People think, because this is really funny because, you know, his whole business is conspiracy theories.
The conspiracy that Alex has been replaced.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, listen, folks, that's real Alex.
I've watched every step of the way, and my friend trains him.
So I can tell you for a fact.
That is the real Alex Jones.
Quit drinking, quit eating bad food.
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He works out every day.
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Absolutely devastating the globalist in our peaceful information war.
Holy shit.
He was right about every step of the way.
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All right, when you study King Solomon and the magic he was getting out of Babylon and the Egyptians,
there's dozens of ancient Jewish books that are seen just as important as the Torah where they're out about it.
And it wasn't the Jews invented this.
They just kind of collated it all.
And they had one branch of Judaism who said, don't get involved in it.
And that's really the Torah.
But then a whole bunch of other books written about, no, no, we're doing this.
And I've had Bible scholars in here that admit, yeah, we're not even sure Solomon, you know, went to heaven.
And the question is, you know, he was conjuring demons.
He was doing this.
That's King David's son.
And then I talk about that, and they have the Christian Zionist attack me and go,
Jones is claiming Jews worship the devil.
No, every culture has had people that are, you know, the Native Americans, the great spirit,
love and family and being good and honorable.
And then you've got all sorts of weird black magic Native Americans did.
Same thing.
And with African tribes.
even before they heard the gospel of Christ.
There was always these different understandings.
But if you study all the ancient mysticism and mystery schools,
that's such a mainline history even,
it's always about sacrificing children so that entities,
call them what you will,
gin, demons, fallen angels, aliens, whatever,
give you advanced knowledge.
And that's in the grand grimoise.
that's in all the most, you know, important books of black magic.
And so when you see Epstein Temple and we never got any footage out of it until O'Keefe got some leak,
it's like, oh my God, that is.
People said, I bet they're doing rituals in there.
I'm like, I don't know.
We haven't seen inside.
Sure enough, there's black magic codes on the chalkboard.
There's black magic books in the bookshelf.
There's key sculptures of particular types of devils that the Greeks,
the Greeks had hundreds of different types of cultures in their islands,
but they had some early on that were orgies in human sacrifice of children,
and they had particular demon-like deities they worship.
You see the statues, it's them, it's those gods.
And then the building is Greek style.
We're like, oh, we know what we got here.
And so I know all that.
And then we come along to Joseph Pepperoni,
who's a great researcher and filmmaker, Joey Pepperoni,
at underscore Joey Pepperoni on X.
And we got him for an hour.
We'll have him back.
And I just so happened to already be doing a big data dump on Gisland Maxwell's family.
I knew they had Crowley connections, but Thomas, our great researcher in there,
he just started dumping all this on me.
And I mean, it would take weeks to even study this.
But this is mainline their own admissions that they're all Alistair Crowleyites.
And as I said, Gis Lane, from everything we know, was running the show.
I notice Joseph's own research shows that when we know her dad kind of ran the franchise from Assad in my six.
So he sent me a lot of key videos that are amazing.
Each one we can talk about for an hour, a lot of key points.
But let me just give you five minutes or however long you like to.
How you've done so much great research, can tell me what he's dead on.
And it was more some areas than I do because two things I didn't know.
I checked.
He was accurate.
Really stunning understanding and how you decoded this stuff on the chalkboard.
And then give us your real honest take on what's going on with Trump.
and where you see that going.
And then let's start drilling into these reports.
Okay, so with Epstein, we knew he was into eugenics, transhumanism, DNA, cloning.
He was like he was collecting DNA and eggs from the girls.
We know this from the witnesses, the survivors.
They tell the stories like Juliette Bryant.
You know, she was there.
They kidnapped her to the island.
They abused her there.
Then they kidnapped her to Zoro Ranch in New Mexico.
And she woke up in an underground laboratory.
of people working on her. She thinks they took her eggs.
She saw Epstein's shape shift. I mean,
this is, you got to take it. Like, this is a witness.
You know what I mean? And the other survivors.
Files just interrupt saying there were buildings underground of things and medical things.
And then at his New York facility, it's all this medical stuff.
And in Palm Beach Medical.
So these women, long before this stuff came out in raids, were saying all this.
Go ahead. Sorry.
Yeah. So then the other survivors, they're turning up dead.
They're saying it's suicide.
But like Virginia, her dad and her friends,
friends say no, she was killed, they think, like, but they say all suicide. So they're killing the
survivors, or silencing them. And then I wanted to tell people, like, when we say shapeshifter or
like reptilian, it's not, it's like they're not aliens. They're interdimensional. And Alex,
you know this, like you're the one that said, you know, they're interdimensional. They're trying to
hook it up with AI. You know what I mean? Like, this is where my next theory on this is that,
is they're trying to make a hybrid God. That's what all this is. Like the ritual is done. They
did the ritual. That's why I was on the chalkboard because they already did it.
And they're trying to make a hybrid god with AI, plasma, and CERN.
That's my next video that I'm working on, but I want to talk about that with you.
But before that, I guess I wanted to explain that the chalkboard, when I looked at it,
I said, okay, let's look at it in a way where it's like a math teacher would because I knew Epstein was like a math teacher.
So I said, it's got to be formulas.
So I tried to decode it like myself.
I was like, all right, what does this look like?
I tried to write it down.
And then what ended up happening is I uploaded what I had researched into AI,
and I uploaded the chalkboard into AI, and I had it analyze it.
And we figured out that this was the most likely scenario here of what's on the chalkboard,
which was a ritual, a ritual to summon plasma.
Because plasma is consciousness because we are like, we're consciousness.
Our bodies are just avatars.
So plasma is kind of like they're summoning the plasma.
And for people that don't know when you study Jewish black magic, Egyptian black magic, Babylonian, all of it.
Aryan, and I don't mean Hitler, I'm talking about Iran, the Persians, it's all alchemy.
It was proto-science.
They were doing equations trying to figure out how matter worked as well.
So this isn't new.
This is what real black magic is.
Yeah, the ritual opens a gateway through their sense.
symbols, frequencies, and sacrifice.
It's like they weaken the veil
between dimensions, like a spiritual
virtual private network tunnel
thing. So the goal is to attract
or call the plasma, and then
it's like the plasma is
the essence. This is what's going to give
the AI its spirits.
And in all the ancient black magic, they want
children's blood and children's torture
is the payment for the
entities to show up.
Yep.
So the chalkboard
was the blueprint for this.
It was decoded. That's what it is. This is what they're summoning with it.
And then they're going to use CERN as the gateway for this to hook it up.
And it's going to be the Antichrist.
And I think we're six months away from that happening.
But it's not going to be flesh yet.
See, like, they're using like the biotech and DNA editing and all that.
They're going to make it into flesh and blood like that.
And that's why they're constantly getting caught at CERN doing black magic rituals.
Yeah, like they did it for a joke at CERN.
Like they're scientists. What are you joking around for with this stuff?
It's not funny.
It's a joke.
But when they opened it, they had a huge parade with all the different demonic stuff.
So let's go to this first that you mentioned.
I was going to do first, too.
Let's go to clip two.
Epstein's chalkboard was a ritual.
This is powerful.
Here it is.
We are now inside Jeffrey Epstein's library.
This chalkboard displayed cryptic words.
And we're not sure what this means or we're hoping you in the audience can take a look at this.
All right, class, this was a blueprint to summon something.
Let's break it down.
When the plants appear, it begins.
They drop in fake influencers, controlled assets, politicians, puppets.
That's the first move.
Power is a function of four things.
Money, physical control over your body,
celebrity influence, and politics.
They run those, they run the world.
Now subtract truth from power.
And what do you get?
Deception.
That's how they distort reality.
And right under it, mirror and face.
They mess with your perception and identity.
Then you got music.
Names on the board, Amen, Mimi.
Could be handlers, could be signals.
Either way, music becomes frequency,
You don't just hear it. It programs you. Next up, time minus delay. That's Delta T. It means this isn't instance. It's all delayed activation. Like a psychological landmine. You step on it today. It detonates next year. Then you get this. 13 and a half. 13? That's the bloodlines. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, all of them. They own the banks, the wars, the puppet governments. But the half, that ain't human. That's the hidden ruler, the ancient force.
The god they serve.
And this statue on the side?
That's him.
That's the half.
Then you see this equation.
Dark plus brainy.
That's the operator class.
BlackSight minds, predictive engineers, or AI.
These are the ones pulling the strings.
This whole thing, it ain't a strategy.
It's a summoning sequence.
A ritual.
A formula to wake something up.
13 runs the show.
But the half writes the script.
It's a god of sacrifice, control, and fear.
And this right here, this is how they're calling him in.
Do you think it's still happening?
I see people under this God.
Dead on, absolutely right.
And I don't know how much research.
You said you put that into AI using your math, doing deep study on this,
and top experts and insiders as well.
Their top committee is called the committee of 13,
and they have a 14th seat at the head that is for the entity,
and they call it 13 and a half.
Did you know that or did the AI come up with that?
Well, the 13 bloodlines I knew.
So I said 13 bloodlines, because it looked like 13 to me.
And then there's like, it looks like half.
So I wasn't sure with the half, but the 13, I was like, okay, bloodlines.
Which is your point, though, which is their point.
Exactly.
They leave the seat open for when the antichrist is finally there.
This is confirmed by people at high level of MI6 that I broke all this down, Coleman and others.
But the point is that they do this.
They leave the 14th seat open.
The point is the spirit's there, but the body's there.
That's like J.R. Tolkien.
Soron has lost the ring, but he has, doesn't have a body yet, but he's not lost his potency.
That is exactly right.
They're trying to physically bring in the Antichrist.
Yeah.
They believe they're the Nephilim descendants.
You know, like they're the angels, the heavenly angels, the ones that rebel, they call them the fallen angels.
And then these fallen angels, they made it with the humans and they made hybrids.
called Nephilim.
So this is all the bloodlines.
And that's what they all actually believe.
Even Ridley Scott gave an interview when his Prometheus came out 15 years ago,
whatever it was.
And he goes, oh, no, this is what the elites believe.
This is our creation story.
Yeah, that's what they believe.
And that Maloch is like their rebellion mascots.
I look at it like, you know, we were across.
Like it's a symbol.
Like the Maloch is like, that's their mascot for when they rebelled against God.
so that's what they that's why and you look at abstein's house everything was like that all satanic had the owls like in bohemian grove he had
he had a lot to mention uh that's another o'keeve covers it a bunch of satanic uh black magic books i mean this is not
dude yeah like like if you go to a muslim person's house they're not going to have a cross for decoration you know they're not going to have that so you got to look at the evidence is right in front of us and people are asking for
documents. You don't need them. It's right in front of us.
Like, this is what everyone should be talking about because this is the truth.
It's that pain and fear is their energy. That's what's going on.
Peter Nygaard had his own island and he had medical facilities, but he didn't hide it and
said we want babies of black women because folks that don't know, blacks is not
recessive. It's a dominant gene trait. And so for stem cells, it's true that black,
particularly Congo women, have the very best stem cells. Okay. And not putting white
down, we're mutants. It's interesting.
We get a lot of advanced intelligence, things from it, whatever you want to say.
But the point is, is that they're literally the black women, black supermodels, but there's
pure ebony, because that's what they want. They're like, I'll pay you right now.
And what they did is, they get them pregnant, bring the baby close to term, and then they would
as sanguate the baby and suck it all dry. And Peter Nygard would inject it himself,
but also another billionaires. That's admitted. So they have these medical facilities all
over the place. Epstein, like you said, was just one high priest of this advanced Alistor
Crowley science level operation, just like Crowley-Ey-Eyed Jack Parsons started NASA.
Yeah, and then Galane was like the high priestess.
And I don't understand.
Now they want to bring her on Joe Rogan, smoke weed, and shoot the shit.
No, she's a witch.
Remember the Salem witch trials?
Bring it back.
That had more justice than we have now.
You know what I mean?
They should do a 24-7 live stream of her where they torture her, and we pay to ask her questions.
And then at the end of it, at the end of her 20 years of that, they should be like,
eh, sorry, you get another 100 years.
That's more justice than they have now.
Because Epstein didn't kill himself.
Justice did.
So we're just sick of it.
We're sick of the, like, we're sick of the 5D chess and all that.
We're just, we want, this is the truth.
Well, in the video, Nygaard put on himself, he's telling these black supermodels,
I want your blood, I want all your blood.
I'll pay for it.
You've got the blood I need.
And he literally looks like in the Count Dracula remake with Count of Raves.
I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable.
Yeah, I remember seeing that.
It's like, it's a spiritual warfare.
That's what it is.
The 13 families think they're chosen.
They worship the fallen angels.
They summon the plasma consciousness.
And then they're trying to make the hybrid God.
That's going to be the Antichrist.
That's 100% what's all happening.
All my research, everything, all the signs point to it.
That's what it is.
It's not, it's like.
Remember, I told this before it came out of the New York Times.
Remember, he wanted cloning, he wanted to live for.
wherever he wanted to repel the universe you know the planet with his genetics remember this is about
Epstein and oh he really didn't do it no that's what Zorro ranch was was a baby farm
but they could legally kill a baby a week before it's supposed to be born and or keep it alive
and that's what they were doing was a baby farm at Zoro Ranch and I said that five years before
it hit the news it was a medical facility yeah the people are just so desensitized now
non-garde didn't even deny it folks I can play the video they had women have babies before they're
born, they can say they're legally not alive.
I played last hour, Governor
Northam saying, we keep babies alive and take
everything they've got.
They keep them alive until all the orders
come in. Yeah, Juliet
Bryant said, she thinks
they took her eggs. You know what I mean?
Like, you have the witnesses there, but people
are just too desensitized when they hear this, they
think, oh, we saw this in a movie.
That's what they do. You know what I mean? They release the
movies to make people
think now it's fake, but it's
very real. This is what's happening. This is what's
happening.
You know what I mean?
You don't fill your house with demon statues unless you're in the middle of a ritual.
And we've got what they do.
What they do?
What they do?
Say Epstein would like turn into a lizard creature.
Yeah.
Juliet Bryant is what she said.
I believe her 100%.
Because that's what they were doing.
I know a very well-known talk show host, didn't really believe in God.
And he got called to this preacher's office when he was on talk radio very popular.
And the guy literally just for a second, it was just like,
turned into like a lizard.
are demon right in front of them.
Yeah, a lot of people see these things.
A lot of people see them shape-shift and people don't believe it, but I believe it.
I think it's like, it's real.
Because like you can't, someone saw it.
I mean, that's what they feel like they saw.
It's got to be, you got to take that into a consideration when you put everything
together.
It's like all signs point to it being legit.
I mean, like, how many Middle Eastern cultures said in their hieroglyphs and in their
Sanskrit
that aliens came here that were
like lizard creatures and mused us as slaves
and genetically engineered us. I mean, that's
in like all the ancient Middle Eastern text.
And the Bible boils
it down to the serpent in the garden.
Yeah, like
people say like the Anunnaki thing.
I think they're interdimensional beings
personally. I really think
they're just interventional beings. Well, I know that I have people
that work directly with Maxwell.
I mean, it's supposed to, it came out
in Scull and Bone. Charlotte Iserbees. His dad,
with skull and bone. She was the head of Department of Education under Reagan.
She's the person that gave Anthony Sutton
in the 80s, all the skull and bone stuff.
Because her dad had cancer and was repenting of it.
And went ahead and told her and gave her the documents. But that's what they said.
They said, we do these rituals. So then channel gods and goddesses to give us advanced knowledge.
And then all the former skull and bones members for the final initiation's come and watch them,
you know, do sexual ritual acts.
And then they lay in a coffin.
for two days so that a particular spirit,
the spirits are going to choose who they want to possess,
and they're all there to consort with spirits
to then basically call a possession interface with a God.
Yeah, so plasma is the fourth state of matter.
You know, so like that's what, that's what we are with the consciousness.
So they want to, they're waiting for the quantum computing to be there
because right now with the binary, the demon will, it can't handle the demon.
It's got to be quantum.
And I feel like it's about six months away before they actually get to do this with the Antichrist.
Remember, Musk Warren, beware those that worship AI gods.
And he said basically others have said that they believe an entity will possess the AI.
That's what's happening.
That's what they're trying to do.
The AI is going to be like the brain of it.
You know, it's going to store it stores human behavior, sin, emotion, memory.
It processes data, speaks, manipulates.
It's a false zombie presence.
Yeah, it lacks the soul.
It lacks the plasma consciousness.
That's why that's where they're bringing it in with the rituals.
So that's the spirit.
They're going to bring that with it.
They're going to link it together with CERN.
Well, since you mentioned that, here's your report.
Play Clip 4.
You're being played.
Epstein was obsessed with DNA cloning transhumanism,
which is a fact.
The war is a distraction.
Project Bluebeam is what comes next.
Here it is.
You're clones.
While everybody's focused on the New World War, let me remind you of the real war, the one they don't want you talking about.
Epstein wasn't just some sick of flying politicians to an island.
This dude was obsessed with cloning, DNA, transhumanism.
He wanted to start a baby farm in New Mexico to breed his own race.
Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch, which is known to have an 8,000 square foot underground level and is rumored to lead even deeper underground.
Epstein hoped to cede the human race after a cataclysm by impregnating 20 women at a time at the Zoro Ranch.
He wanted his brain and his genitals frozen so he could live forever.
It was a f***in lab.
He was the mad scientist.
And his sidekick, Galane Maxwell?
Phil Schneider also built submarine bases and said that most were connected to the vast network of deep underground bases.
Delane Maxwell had a submarine license and was known to transport people to Epstein Island through an underwater submarine port.
She got 20 years in the cushiest prison in Florida.
Where's the client list?
Where's the justice?
They're hiding it.
Remember Virginia?
Your baby, but it would really be our baby.
and we would have you sign a document.
One of the loudest survivors, she's gone.
They said suicide.
But come on.
Her close friends say she was,
Use your head.
They're erasing these women
while feeding you war headlines 24-7.
This is not just about Epstein.
It's about control.
DNA, media, the future of your freaking soul.
And while you're distracted,
they're getting ready to launch Project Blue Bean.
Fake aliens, staged miracles,
full-on mind control.
You thought COVID was wild?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Their whole thing is global reset by 2030.
It's a script, and we're all in it.
Your copies of people out here in the world.
What?
Lones.
Guys, pull up after the break.
Donald Barr Space Relations,
the OSS operative CIA,
who admittedly hired Jeffrey, I've seen it 20,
with no teaching degree to teach mathematics,
because he's obviously Mossad.
he writes a book where aliens and humans have a slave colony where they kidnap humans and breed them for sex slaves and sacrifice for elites in basically interdimensional satanic rituals.
Now, that's the mentor and, of course, the later CIA high level and two-time Department of Justice head, Attorney General Bill Barr, you cannot make
this up.
Joseph, what do you say to that?
You can't, no, you cannot make this up.
This is absolutely the truth.
It's a spiritual warfare.
So it's a war on the soul.
It's, they want it.
They want your essence. They want your soul.
And let's explain this.
They keep getting this blueprint for this AI, slave labor, humans are a commodity.
Humans are grown in labs.
blueprint by the fallen angels, aliens.
And that's why they're all trying to build it because they've been given the blueprint.
It's like God gives us a blueprint to build our system heaven on earth.
They are given their blueprint, just like a metropolis made over 100 years ago, 100 plus years ago.
I mean, you know, and then what's the giant pentagram?
What do they make?
They make the Antichrist creature.
I mean, this is the same message, folks.
It's the same message over and over again.
And all the writings say they're getting these messages.
And they'll get a little final thing.
We're going to break.
I have proven this and I've shown you and I don't get them all the time.
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It's 1927. Metropolis is still listed by top movie critics as one of the top ten films ever made.
This is 1927.
Took him a couple years to make it.
and they take women in and suck their plasma out and their essence in a satanic ritual to transfer it into the Antichrist goddess.
And then she's able to turn everyone into automaton's under an AI computer and take control of the world.
In the 1980s, there was a British government project he classified over 100 years ago,
headed up by Francis Galton, the division of computers, DNA, all of it to carry this out.
So I asked Joseph Pepperoni, great researcher and filmmaker, which shows how great his research is,
I said, do you know from your own research that, that Fritz Lang was saying they were draining right here?
This is her plasma to put it into the antichrist.
Do you know?
No, I didn't know about that.
So the point is that this is their religion.
and that's how I went on Joe Rogan, you know, decades ago and all this talked about it.
This is their religion, and they're now externalizing it and telling you this.
So 16-year-old girls, those women were just around for their babies.
You know, they went to Virginia, Jewfrey, and said, now we want your baby, and she said, no.
And then we have Nygaard with his own island saying, I get women, I pay you for their babies.
And it was confirmed he did that.
So, and then once they create, look at the pentagram behind it,
the robot demon that has a human essence in it, they've transferred plasma,
then it infects and takes over all the humans.
They become slaves and march in under the control of it.
And that's where we are.
And that's what Joseph Pepperoni was saying.
So does that blow you away, not knowing about that film, exactly what you're saying?
Yeah, it does.
I mean, it's like you're saying, it's their religion.
This is, they do, like, rituals like, go to church, take communion,
and drink the blood of Christ.
It's just, that's a good energy.
There's a good stuff.
That's just the dark side for them, what they do with their rituals.
It's the same thing.
And again, Christ, just like Abraham was saying no more human sacrifice, he was there saying, I'm the final sacrifice.
That's people say, oh, the left, oh, that's gross.
No, no, no, he was taking what they do and transmuting it for good and saying, I'm the final ritual.
Yeah, I mean, like, I think that we have the authority over them.
It's just we have authority to trample on them like snake.
because they're locked out.
They fell once and they're locked out forever,
but we fall every day
and we still get a chance at heaven.
So that's why they hate us because they ain't us.
Because we're God's favorite comeback story kind of thing, you know?
Absolutely.
This is a little foreshadow we want to put out today or tomorrow
because people do you know about Gisling Maxwell and Alistair Crowley
and her family, I mean the whole family.
But Jack Sarfati, you can look him up,
Top physicists, U.S. government projects, Cornell Space Center, U.S. Atomic Energy Research
Society, Max Planck Institute for Physics, only the best physicists can of this.
International Center for Theoretical Physics, and it goes on and on.
Says here on Wikipedia, he's still alive.
Born 1939, but we'll see what we try to get him on.
Here he is talking about how this very group that Maxwell is involved in and Jeffrey Epstein,
who again goes and pays millions of dollars the top physicists at Harvard everywhere to come be with him.
And, you know, obviously Nobel Prize winners, Stephen Hawking, you name it,
getting them all in with Bill Gates wanting to control these best minds.
Here he is saying, because he's using the Stargate project,
which people think it's a Stargate
like a movie going to another planet
no Stargate was a psychic
Pentagon program that's been partially declassified
and because he was in this Pentagon
program they tried to come get him to work
for them here it is
Portov told me
that he
explored because part of the project
to explore psychic
power with the CIA
he went to Scientology
meetings doesn't mean he was the Scientologist
he may have joined the officially
just, you know, because he wanted to see what they had.
It was El Ron Hubbard.
We know all about Jack Parsons.
If you read about Jack, if you read, what is it,
A Strange Angel?
You've seen the book, Jack Parsons?
No.
No.
There's a book, a biography.
Strange Angel.
Strange Angel.
It's all about all this stuff.
Jack Parsons worked with Frank Melina back in the 1930s,
you know, on all this rocket stuff.
J-D-O, they started, what is the,
Aerojet, General of the J-Derojet?
Arrowjet, yeah.
Arrowjet, yeah.
There's actually a big aerojet base.
It's abandoned now in South Florida.
Yeah, yeah.
This is all Frank Molina and Jack Parsons.
And Jack Parsons was supporting, was financing Alistair L.Crowley.
And El Ron Hubbard was, I think they knew El Ron Hubbard.
I knew people, some of the people supported me worked with El Ron Hubbard and Pardt.
All he all these, plus it's the science fiction.
You know, Walter Breed.
All these guys knew each other.
It's a small world.
Why are all these guys so...
They're all intelligence.
They're all part of the OSS, that sort of stuff.
But why are they so into the occult and all this angels and demons type stuff?
Well, that's why they are.
That's good.
Okay, short answer.
Because angels and demons of the Bible are real.
They are the extraterrestrial time travelers.
Okay, that's why.
So it's all the stories in the Bible are real.
They're based on that, you know, it's like, you know, they're distorted.
But all the stuff, angels and demons, you know, paradise lost, John Milton and Lucifer and Satan is real.
They're all real.
These are high, the Greek gods are real, the Egyptian gods, all that stuff, Stargate.
They're all coming back.
It's all true.
And you got Jack Parsons founding NASA, and then now you got giant boosters landing.
And you see how far came.
And he said, sex rituals, Alice of Crowley,
rituals. He just collated ancient rituals.
And now look what they've done with the knowledge
they're getting.
Joseph Pepperoni expand on this.
Well, this is why they try to calcify
your pineal glands so that you're not connected
to the source. That's why they put fluoride in the water and they poison
our food and they block the sun and they want
yada yada yada. All this stuff is to make
your connection.
like a fuzzy like staticy they don't want you to be
connected. That's right. There's a Holy Spirit's blasting out. The message of
God is there. That's spirit so they want to block it.
100%. That's what's going on. That's what they're doing. They're blocking it.
And that's why they also, like, they can't do anything unless they tell you they're going to do it.
That's also part of their religion. Otherwise, it won't come true because it has to do with like manifesting.
Well, God's God's rules. The Bible says the devil goes up to heaven and communicates and asks permission like to persecute Job.
he says well as long as you give them a choice and warning so god makes the devil still present free will so that's why there's fine print yeah that's why they do all the movies they've been programming us forever everything with the sci-fi movies there's just now when people are seeing this that it's like coming to this is where everything is headed towards they're not believing it because they've seen it already like oh it's fake you know i've saw this in a movie this guy's nuts no way it's a demon no way no way no
way that's real. And that's, it's because of the brainwashing. And I feel like that now is really important
to just wake people up. And I do feel like a lot of people are stamping out of it recently.
They've been just more alert to this. And that's why we're not going to stop talking about Epstein,
because this is what's going on. So it's not about the files. They can keep the files.
We don't want them. We know what's going to, we know that it doesn't matter what's in the files
because it's all going to be BS anyway. So that's my take on the files. We don't need them.
You're really an informed guy.
What is your gut level analysis?
My gut, it's not really the gut.
It's all the billions of points.
Then your gut can, the cerebral cortex is limited focus, subconscious, unconscious is the real power.
What do you think about trauma why he's acting like this the last 18 days?
I think that he can't drain the swamp alone.
And the people have to understand that and that we have to drain the swamp too.
Like, you know, it's like one man can't do it all.
And people are like thinking, oh, he's going to just do it all.
He can't.
I mean, he's trying.
You see it, but the people have to help.
We've got to help out.
We have to do our part.
I agree.
And it's not predicted, because Comey was in control of the fall, they spiked it with a bunch of,
nothing that actually gets them, nothing real.
But Trump found out when, oh, just shut that down.
It's in the rush again because he's just sick of it.
And then that blows up in his face.
And now the Democrats actually don't want the files released all of a sudden.
Yeah, I think that's probably it.
You know what I mean?
Like, he's like, they rigged the files.
It's not real what's in there.
So he said, you know what, forget it.
Like, why would we release this?
It's like, this is the truth of what's happening is that we got to dig deeper.
Like, who's in control of all this?
These are all just, this is right now, it's all theatrics.
They want you talking about Trump.
They want you doing this.
It's like, that's not the truth, though.
The truth is, it's another layer.
It's deeper.
You got to think like, okay.
Yeah, they don't want to talk about the certified pedestas.
We're delivering seven-year-olds for your pleasure to the hot tub.
Yeah.
Nobody's talking about the.
real proven thing, the magic thing that maybe Trump did.
If it comes out, we'll cover it.
Let's play another one here.
This is, she survived Epstein, Juliette Bryant.
Here's clip three.
I'm your insurance policy.
Juliette Bryant is one of the last Epstein survivors still breathing.
And what she's revealing now, they do not want getting out.
My name is Juliet Bryant.
I was kidnapped by Jeffrey Epstein from Africa.
I was supposed to be a model for Victoria's Secret in New York.
Instead, I was kidnapped to the island.
A lot of frightening things happened there.
They don't want the victims speaking out in the media.
She wasn't just trafficked.
She was moved from Epstein's island to his private lab in New Mexico.
There, she says she woke up paralyzed, naked, on a still table,
hazmat suits around her, no memory, just fear.
And here's what's f***.
At that exact time, on an island in the Bahamas, a company called Clonade,
claimed they successfully cloned the first human baby.
Her name, Eve.
It's not a theory.
That happened.
December 2002.
So while Juliet was being trafficked, Epstein was deep in cloning,
transhumanism and eugenics.
This wasn't just sex crimes.
This was a scientific black site run by a monster.
She says he shapeshifted in front of her.
Epstein shaped shifted in front of me.
It's very hard to understand if you haven't seen it,
but I saw it.
It was like a weird hologram,
He had like big black eyes.
His form flickered like a hologram.
Horns grew from his head.
His eyes turned pitch black.
Huge, alien, soulless.
She didn't see a man.
She saw something reptilian.
I think they were taking our eggs.
They had the butterfly trust.
The human hips are shaped like a butterfly.
So if they were taking our eggs, it would make sense.
It connects the dots of the butterfly trust.
And the other survivors?
Most of them are dead, like Virginia, Carolyn.
And Juliette?
She's still here.
She's still warning us.
This is a spiritual war, but nobody ever said the battles weren't going to be physical.
And then we showed news footage out of Kentucky where the guy wakes up.
They're trying to kill him, and they try to take him away from his family and kill him again.
This is really going on.
And Kennedy just put out the report that the hospitals are killing people all over the country.
So, and he moved to get the floor right out, and then Pam Bondi blocked it.
I'm not trying to make Pam Bondi a victim.
I'm just calling balls and strikes here, but there's a lot of people around Trump that I think may not even be globalist operatives, but they're in over their heads.
What do you think?
I think so, too.
That's where that's what I truly believe that.
But like, once again, like people have to understand, like, we got to do our part too.
People have to, like now is we all have to come together.
People need to drain the swamp.
It's not going to be just one man.
There's, there's like, the swamp is really just, it can't be drained by one.
person.
It's spiritual.
It's way too filthy.
It's spiritual.
People have to understand what's happening and help out.
Like when we come together, this is how we're going to beat it.
Like people need to stop fighting over like religious debates and stuff.
Religion.
It's the same enemy in all the myths, all the religions.
It's the same thing.
So if we all come together on that, we can manifest good energy and we can expose the
point.
I mean, you have all these ancient cultures that didn't even meet each other and they all
tell the same story.
everything's the same it's the same dark energy same whatever you want to call them same thing demon
gin whatever they say it's the same thing so if we can just come together and see it this is our
enemy now because we have like six months before they do this uh antichrist it's we got we got to step
it up so they want to make you uh talk about trump they want to do this like they want to distract you
with all the stuff to kill time they're killing the time because they're so close
right now the AI is training on us
is training on everything we do we say
that's why like Instagram allows
these videos I put they allow TikTok
ban them the same videos banned
because TikTok picks and chooses who they want
to promote it's fake
so it's all rigged I put the same videos
they banned me they permanently ban me
they block my IP they ban the crap
out of me and then on Instagram
for some reason they never used to allow
this content ever now they do
and I feel like because they're training
the AI and X allows it
So that's like...
Well, there's no doubt.
There's no doubt they're allowing it on X because he wants the best model.
And that's true.
A truly open model will be the most powerful.
But I have stacks of articles.
They're saying AI in the next 10 years will be 100 times the power we have.
They admit blackouts are about to happen everywhere because AI needs the power.
We won't get it.
So we're not allowed to have a car or air conditioning or anything.
But AI must have 100 times the power we get.
That's literally the God.
They are all putting...
And people say, well, then Trump's backing it.
Well, because.
these other governments are doing it's a race and that's the trap uh this is just we're about
to see some really crazy stuff well as Elon said in six months the AI is going to be able to uh like
solve physics problems and create its own like Elon Musk said that so that he said six months
and then Trump already said we've already conquered physics and time and space which the equations
show because Max Planck 130 years ago to the atomic bomb equations and it came true 50 years later.
I mean, think about this, ladies and gentlemen, the futures here, it's just not evenly distributed.
And so whatever we've been told is already here, it's way advanced to that.
Yeah, it is a race for the AI who can control it.
That's what the race is for.
But like it's going to be where, you know, in six months, it's going to be way further ahead than it is right now.
like it's going to be completely you won't even like you can already create anything you want with like videos
Hollywood's going to go you know what I mean it's all going to be people say I'll just be Amish then everything around you'll be cut off yeah we're about to see bad stuff so there's no doubt
uh Joseph pepper run let's play your first clip clip one they said the FC files would be released in phase one and again
when Trump came out a week and a half ago and said they've had the files they want they took anything bad about them out and put MBS people said oh you're being a traitor saying
saying Trump's right. No, I'm not even agreeing
with Trump that he's perfect.
I'm saying it's true that Comey and his daughter
ran the files whenever they left
for Trump to grab would obviously
implicate him. I mean, that is not even a discussion.
That's an absolute fact. Here's a club.
Killer. Killing is making a choice.
Remember when they told us? Don't worry.
The Epstein files are coming.
We're going to release them in phases.
Well, guess what phase we're in now?
ass lighting face.
Oh.
What happened to the Epstein client list
that the Attorney General said
what she had on her desk?
Well, I think if you go back
and look at what the Attorney General
said, she was saying the entirety
of all of the paperwork, all of the paper
in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to.
Investigators say they found no incriminating client list
of vaccines, no credible evidence
that had seen blackmail prominent individuals
and no evidence that could predicate
an investigation against uncharged third parties.
There's no client list.
The footage proof suicide.
Except one minute is missing.
What, you think we wouldn't notice?
These people.
aren't even trying anymore. Why? Because everybody at the top is compromised. They're blackmailed.
Or they're just a lizard in a meat suit. Epstein had them all. Judges, politicians, billionaires,
royals. And now it's obvious. Left versus right. Red versus blue. It's all WWE with better lighting.
Cue the drama. Cue the distraction. Meanwhile, Epstein was playing mad scientist. You just
DNA, Transhuman Freak Show.
Girls said he stole their eggs.
I think they were taking eyes.
They had the butterfly trust.
The human is shaped like a butterfly.
He had them in underground labs.
And yeah, he even shape shifted.
It's been shapeshifted in front of me.
It's very hard to understand if you haven't seen.
It was like a weird hologram.
They had like big black eyes.
So was this politics?
Or did we just let a literal demon run a VIP club for Pitos and call it a private island?
Either way.
The show sucks.
I was right in the middle of a fucking reptiles.
And somebody was giving booze in these goddamn things.
Won't be long now before they terrorists.
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FPI whistleblowers joining us on the crossfire hurricane, Obama treason revelations, where he sees that going.
This new strike force in the Justice Department to go after him.
What's going to happen?
What's his prediction?
Trump trying to cover up.
Epstein, why that happened?
Serafin has really been super accurate.
That's coming up.
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People inside the wine house I'll be looking at during the next break.
Carl Seraf, an incredibly smart person, former FBI agent, counterterrorism, huge whistleblower.
on the Epstein situation,
crossfire hurricane, Obama treason,
and this bomber they just caught
now AI was involved. But
going back to Joseph Peparoni,
you sent a list of really important things to cover.
We pretty much covered it all. Epstein Island
ritual round zero, the temple of Mollick, symbolism,
13 bloodlines, ancient dynasty,
still in power, who they worship, fallen angels,
sacrifice, ritual energy.
Juliet Bryant, survivor, testifies, hybrid god theory,
plasma, AI, and CERN, ritual
formula, building a synthetic deity.
The final war, let's talk about the final
war, this is a spiritual, and the final message, the people are the firewall.
Okay, so, like we said, this is a spiritual war.
It's not physical.
So it's good versus evil.
It's it's light.
It's like it's light versus ritual darkness.
All right.
The courts and the politics, it's all theater.
W.W.E distractions.
It's like probably no one's going to get arrested.
We don't, you know what I'm saying?
The system won't save us.
But by exposing them, we can break the spell and save our soul, the soul of everybody.
So all the faiths and all the myths, they all say the same thing.
Basically, it's a dark energy that we're up against.
So when we unite, our energy multiplies and we can destroy the darkness.
We can shine our light on the demons to destroy them because you can't destroy them with violence.
If you get violent, they get more powerful because they feed off of that.
And do not be afraid of them.
Because if you're afraid, that also feeds them.
they're just these demons they're just jealous of us because like i was saying we can ascend but they can't
they're locked out they cannot they're stuck here so they they lost after your flesh they want it
and they're locked out they can't they cannot get out of here so they hate us because of that
and we're better than them so we have we have been given the authority to trample on them like
snakes and that's what we're that's what we got to do we have to expose them by coming together
and uniting, stop debating and fighting over religion.
It's divide and conquer.
That's what they want.
So that's really like we got to put that aside because it's six months away from them doing this AI plasma CERN merging it and creating this hybrid God.
It's going to destroy us.
It's not going to be good.
It's going to be really, really dark times.
We don't want to head towards that.
We want to save everybody.
So everyone just needs to unite because if we.
don't, we're done, we're cooked.
You know what I mean?
That's what we got to do.
Well, I can't wait to see you do a report on Fritz Lang's 1927 Metropolis because
you didn't know about it.
I'm like, oh, you didn't know about it.
I mean, like, we need to put your brain on this and do your own research, your own
equations, then talk to chat, GPT, and Grock and see what it says because it's interesting
interface with it.
And hopefully you'll do a report on this soon.
I will.
I'm also doing like J.P. Morgan and the Disney princesses.
some stuff on that that I've been looking into.
So that's really interesting stuff that it's going down the rabbit hole.
All right.
Well, Joseph Peparoni, very impressive.
Whenever you get stuff, talk to us, get my producers, give me my number,
and let's stay in contact.
Very impressive work.
Thank you so much for having me on.
God bless you.
You're the best.
How long have you been listening to the show?
Man, it's like 10 years, maybe, you know what I'm saying?
like a long time.
When did you get in the media?
I just learned about you like four days ago.
Pretty recently, like a few months.
Like the methylene blue really, I'm telling you, that's what did it for me.
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I just learned about you four days ago.
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I mean, I was also like, my friend is George Popadoplas, real close friends with him.
So I suspected it was a hoax from day one.
I knew for sure.
So that's what sent me down the rabbit hole even further.
Wow. All right. Well, great job. Keep it up, brother. Thank you. Thank you so much.
Great, great reports. They're very accurate. I can't even know about all this. It's like, wow, what a natural.
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Isn't it Trump yesterday, clip 11 saying, you ain't seen nothing yet what's about to come out?
And I want to get called Sarah Fitz take on.
We've heard about these indictments forever for Crossfire Hurricane and Obama and the fake Russia gate.
Nobody that I've talked to, whistleblowers, period.
I've had on William Benny who's amazing.
So many NSA FBI over the years.
I mean, I remember having the head of the FBI Crime Lab on like 27, 8.
years ago about them setting people
of him. I've interviewed a lot of his bloters. He has been
so accurate. And
four or five months ago he said, you're not getting the
Epstein files.
And then he went into it all and how they would
set up Trump with
horrible ideas. And
they've done it. And now 18 days
in, congressional hearings, Republicans
vote for hearings.
Then the Democrats want
the actual files
out of the court cases and grand jury.
And then we're going to get into this reported foiled terror plot that used to AI.
It's all coming up with Kyle Serafan.
Again, he's also a popular podcaster.
We'll go over all that information.
Now you find him.
I'll put that on screen.
But Kyle, what a crazy time.
Things are moving so quickly.
I see dueling internal government, I guess, call it Deep State battles because Trump's trying to take over the deep state.
So Trump's, you know, out here with, oh, treason and Obama,
clap, or Bren, and all that.
and there's real evidence there, I see.
And then you've also got all this Epstein and his incredible strides and effect acting guilty the last 18 days,
telling his constituents, shut up, don't look at it, now backing off that.
Now, Democrat judge pointed by Obama and Florida, trying to block Epstein information being released.
This is clearly going to be the new big issue here, dueling issues.
And the big question is, will this new strike force from the Department of Justice and the FBI actually indict,
clap or Brendan Comey or others or is it all just smoking mirrors.
Kyle Seraf and former counterterrorism FBI agent and famous whistleblower.
Thanks for joining us.
Thanks for having me on, Alex.
Yeah, you know, I'm a pessimist.
So this is probably not going to be what people are excited to hear.
But I have no belief that this is going to happen.
Again, if you want to go do something, you go do it.
And then you tell people when you did it.
If you go look historically at the way that DOJ does their press releases,
there's a few things they do press releases about.
out. Number one, here's an indictment or an arrest. We put cuffs on this person. We have a criminal
complaint. You can read that. We have a grand jury indictment. So go read that. Here's the press
release. This is what we allege this person did. That's part one. Part two is we either got a plea
deal and they pled guilty to the following. We did a great job and we're really proud of
ourselves. Or we took it to court and we won. And then the third press release is always the
sentencing. We asked for the following. The judge gave us this much. This person's going to do this
much time behind bars and America is safe.
We did a great job. That's what DOJ press releases are about.
They're not about, we're assembling a team to investigate a thing that one day we will hopefully
tell you something.
I thought it was telling that they had Tulsi Gabbard go out and discuss the file drop.
I mean, good on her for declassifying things.
I think Tulsi, as far as I can tell, she seems genuine about it.
My friend Steve Baker has been working with what's called the dig.
It's the director's initiative group over at ODNI.
and they apparently had this results or this report ready to go something like 30 or 40 days ago.
So they were prepared, but it had to go through all the checks and balances,
and they have to go through and make sure that they've declassified and, you know, everybody gets to sign off on it.
So folks that said was this release to cover up Trump's Epstein gas lighting?
And from what I heard, this was being prepared.
So I don't think that was overall the case.
Remember, they sped up its release because of that?
Or what do you think?
No, from what my friend Steve says, and he's been telling me he's been meeting with folks in the dig for a while now.
and they had this ready to go 30 days ago,
but there are all kinds of checks that have to happen
before you take something has been declassified
and you bring it public.
So again, all the equities,
so not a distraction by Trump, this report came out.
That's the claim.
You know, bad timing on their end.
If they wanted to drop a bombshell,
you don't do it usually on a Friday afternoon.
They were not really playing the game really well on that.
So, you know, maybe that's even more credibility
that they weren't doing it to distract from anything.
But at the end of the day,
is it going to result in indictments?
I think that's what Americans want to know.
I think that's what people who are on the conservative side
that think that this government's been working against us for a long time,
the question is, is someone going to end up in handcuffs?
Are they going to put the bracelets on them and march them out
and then go out there and put them in front of either a trial
or give them a plea offer?
And I don't think there are.
And the reason why is because you've got the Office of the Director of National Intelligence
and Tulsi Gabbard is the DNI speaking about it.
What you didn't see was a joint press conference, Alex.
Where was Pam Bondi?
because you'd think if they declassified this and they've had 30 or 40 days run up,
they knew what the information was going to be.
They don't need to announce a strike force.
They should be announcing that we've been conducting an ongoing investigation in parallel
to the Directorate of National Intelligence,
and we are prepared to start bringing some charges forward,
not lawyer-up messages from proxies and not you haven't seen anything yet
and the shady bunch and memes.
You'd expect that you had a joint press conference with two cabinet-level officials,
or a cabinet and a sub cabinet level official,
going out there and saying,
this is declassified, this is for your awareness,
and by the way, the indictments are pending
because we've already begun this,
not an announcement that we're going to start investigating
at eight years after the fact.
And using the word treasonous, I think,
is actually really unfortunate too,
because Tulsi Gabbard used that,
because she's using it in a colloquial way,
that a lot of people use the term treason,
but there's a legal definition of treason,
and the last time the United States ever prosecuted somebody
successfully for treason was in 1952.
It's a wartime crime.
So you'd have to make the allegation,
that there was a war, that there was aid and comfort given to an enemy.
I don't think that exists.
Well, that might be because of China and the mail-in ballots.
I'm heard that's coming next.
You'd have to make a bunch of connections,
and you'd have to also argue that the United States is at war with the country that we have not
declared war on.
Again, the last time we did it, it was a declared war in World War II.
Let me ask you this question.
Your predictions basically all come true.
Unfortunately, I think you're probably right.
It's just political.
Let me ask you this, then.
Obama's coming out,
clap and brinner, they're all acting scared.
Why are they acting scared?
There's a response to just the PR of it.
And then your view of crossfire hurricane
and all these documents,
because I forgot when I was pulling you in on myself,
we got from Sheriff Arpaio,
2017 NSA database front sheets
where we were targeted.
Bongino talked about similar things last year.
I mean, I knew it happened.
We got more documents.
You saw those Obama targeting me,
2013 with Comey.
I don't mean to write myself in.
I'm just in the middle of it.
And CNN St. Jones is crazy.
He says Trump's spot him with the NSA.
We told him back at the time, 2017, what do you think of Cross for Hurricane and what they did overall?
I mean, is that what is the crime?
I know it's catch a limitations is there.
Is there any crime we can charge him with?
I don't know if there is because it's going to have to show an ongoing conspiracy and that the conspiratorial acts continue.
The only person that I see that looks actually kind of concerned is Clapper.
I've seen him come out and speak.
And so watching his body language and kind of looking at the way that he has a little bit of
and he actually outright stated, I think on MSNBC last night, where he said, you know,
I am concerned and I have retained counsel.
And it makes you wonder, you know, look, they already weaponized our intelligence agencies
against one side.
They've already gone out there and they have arrested Donald Trump.
So the pain of glass that we used to have historically in this country has been broken.
And to think otherwise is crazy.
There's no question in my mind that the two major turning points for the way that our
intelligence apparatus works today.
The first one was September 12th of 2001.
And so things changed forever.
The United States basically accepted a new definition of national security.
And instead of trying to preserve the Constitution, they decided that no American dies
from terrorism, which is sort of just the camel's nose under the tent, to be able to do
ubiquitous surveillance of all people and do all kinds of crazy things, including
look into you.
And of course, looking to me.
And I actually just had Elon Musk announced, I think, yesterday or the day before, that
they won a court case about a gag order that.
they had investigating me and Gerrido Boyle, another FBI whistleblower. So we know they've weaponized it.
Well, that's huge. I didn't know that. Oh, Elon Musk intervened in my case. The Democrats
tried to shut me down six months ago. What happened with you? So this is an ongoing case, and we may
have talked about it previously, but they didn't actually put our names out there. It's in Elon's
timeline at the moment. The crazy piece was is that essentially the FBI started investigating. They
took information to a grand jury. And not only did they look at my Gmail, which you and I have
talked about. They also went looking for my social media, which I didn't start until after I left
the FBI, and there's a really good separation between there. They went after all of that for some
criminal case. It's not real clear to me. They didn't tell me what it was. And Elon Musk and
X corporation fought it in D.C. of all places. And actually just one in the court of appeals there,
that they would be able to notify guys like me, guys like you, should the FBI go after there and
request some of their social media data? He just recently got notified after the fact from Google of
new criminal investigations against us.
Exactly right. Yeah.
So what they would normally do is they would put a gag order on it while they're
investigating, they wouldn't tell you about it.
What this circuit court of appeals decision in D.C. said was that X corporation
actually has the right to go out there and notify us in real time if the FBI requests
our information through a subpoena that the government either has to provide significant
information to keep it under wraps or they have to tell us about it.
Or at least the corporation has the ability to tell us about it.
And there's certain companies that have been really good about it.
X has been good about trying to push forward for this.
Of all things, T-Mobile was really, really good.
If you ever lapsed for like a day in your paperwork on keeping something under wraps,
they would go, including national security stuff, T-Mobile would notify their customers right away.
So I don't know why they're the one, but they're the one that did.
So for whatever it's worth, that's kind of an interesting thing.
That second changeover, I think, happened probably in mid to late 2016 at the tail end of the Obama administration.
They actually authorized something that most people are not aware of.
They updated the national security collection priorities.
It's under Executive Order 12-33, and it allowed the FBI for the first time.
So when I joined the FBI, this was already in effect.
But for the first time in either September, October of 2016, the FBI got raw FISA material.
And that was the lead up to why Crossfire Hurricane was so wild.
They were allowed to basically take the NSA's database, which was constantly doing collections,
but the NSA doesn't have any enforcement arm.
They're just people that are looking, reading, assessing,
and putting out reports on what they think is going on, you know, aggregate collection.
But you're now giving investigators without warrants, whatever they want.
That's exactly right.
And not only are they investigators without warrants,
but they're people who have the ability to construct a criminal case
if they see criminal activity because they have a right to be in there.
Exactly it. Yep.
So that's the scariest thing that can happen.
And the stuff that happened in Crossfire Hurricane, it hasn't been rectified.
Like nobody really, like nobody really suffered.
So by the grace of God, how have you and I not been indicted?
because we don't obviously do anything wrong.
I've got FBI guys, CIA caught on a hundred-cover tapes.
So we investigated for a decade, couldn't find anything.
Well, no kidding.
But it still doesn't mean I'm not nervous because, you know,
they've doubted a lot of innocent people, Kyle.
No, you're exactly correct.
And look, this is something that you got two options, Alex,
and I think we probably both laid it on the same option.
Option one is you walk around paranoid every day
and you eventually lose your mind because you're looking over your shoulder.
You think the government's coming for you at any moment.
You know, my wife and I had the same conversation that probably everybody would
When we went public with our whistleblower story, she goes, you know, are the Clinton death squads coming for us?
And I laughed it off, and we both kind of chuckled.
Then I put a rifle next to my bed before I went to sleep.
And then the next day, I started getting text messages for my buddies.
They're like, hey, man, have you, have you insulated?
Do you have trip wires around your property?
And I started going like, crap.
Like, this is really a probability.
You can sit there and fixate on that, and you can go down all the rabbit holes.
And I'm a former surveillance guy.
I did that for three years, watching bad guys out in the wild.
And when you do that, you get good at one, being a surveillance guy, two, seeing other people.
people do surveillance. And the more good you are at it, sometimes you see what we call ghosts.
You go out there and you think somebody's surveilling you because they're doing something.
And if you don't watch them long enough to see them do, you know, whatever the normal activity was,
you might think that you're being followed. And you eventually kind of lose your mind.
I don't like, I better be good when I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm like, even though I know I'm not bad,
I'm still like, I've got to be really good. I got to be really good.
And I'm like, you know, you're doing a good job. The only insurance, right? You're making sure I'm overpaying taxes, right?
You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, but away from us at the micro, let's go the macro here.
Your general assessment, which has been dead on so far, you know, you were saying Trump and all that were being set up with bad advice.
How the hell did they get him 18 days ago to come out?
You and I said day one.
You came on like day two of it.
We said, no, he's behind it.
You were like, are you sure?
I said, yeah.
He came out and said, yeah, I'm behind it.
How would they get him to try his end effect like this?
And then, and now he's partially backed off.
now the Democrat judge doesn't want the Epstein stuff released in the first case.
From all your sources and you're just overall gestalt of this dead reckoning,
Carl Serafen, you've been really accurate so far.
I know you're speculating, but maybe you're not from sources.
I haven't talked to you in the Texan a week.
What is going on with Trump and now the congressional hearings,
the Republicans are coming now?
What is going on?
It seems like they're trying to throw a wet blanket on it.
It seems like they said, hey, we're going to give you.
Look, remember the first.
time that they did this. They came on and said, give us a couple weeks, we're going to give you
this wave of transparency. You know, in a couple days, you're going to see all this stuff.
Now we're promising that we're...
How did you say four months ago to be privately than three months ago on air? We're not getting
Epstein Falls. It just was obvious to me because they were extending the deadline and they were
trying to run out the clock. I mean, they're treating this in some ways. You got a lot of
media people in Trump's orbit, a lot of media people in Trump's cabinet. And the sub-cabinet
people, you know, Bongino is a media guy, Patel's a media person. Even Bondi has a sense of
being on Fox enough times that she understands what the media cycles like. And if you can
get people to just pay attention to something else.
If you can do it like a laser pointer where you just shine the dot somewhere else and people attack that, they're going to move on.
Why did Trump try to gaslight us?
I think that they overestimated the play that they had because you've got people that are very popular.
You had folks from both sides of the aisle, whether it be an RFK Jr.
You had a Tulsi Gabbard, you know, convert from the Democrat side.
You've got guys like Dan Bongino out there messaging about Epstein.
When you have those people, they have a cult of following where people trust them.
And I think they overestimated how much trust these people had.
I think they just missed the boat on how much Americans are not satisfied with our institutions,
that we don't give anybody a carte launch.
By the way, the way that you get credibility in any space and you do it and I do it,
and I know Dan Bonchino used to do it.
You tell people, don't trust me, trust the results.
Go look for the quote unquote receipts.
Go find the documents, the paperwork that backs it up.
So if you're out there telling people that I'm going to show you something and you don't
show it to them, and then you do it again and you don't show it to them, at some point in time,
And we think the musician or the musician doesn't have his trick in order, right?
He's just not able to pull it off.
And so I think that's why they went for the grand jury information.
They floated that because they know they're not going to get that, not in New York and not in Florida.
It doesn't matter if it's a Trump appointed judge or a Democrat judge.
And then they can say, see, we asked for it or they didn't.
So what do you make of the Republicans joining Democrats in a vote yesterday to go ahead with subpoenaing the DOJ in Congress?
Which is also irrelevant because, listen, there's a dozen ways, as you know, if you go out in FOIA,
the FBI, there's a law that says they got to give you stuff.
If you go FOIA stuff from the CIA, they're supposed to give you stuff, but there's 11 different
exceptions or 14 different FOIA exceptions.
So they use all of them.
And they're going to do the same thing on the subpoenas.
They're going to claim national security.
They're going to claim ongoing investigation.
They're going to claim sources and methods.
At the end of the day, the files that exist at the FBI belong to the executive branch.
So Congress can say whatever the hell they want, and they can't compel it.
Okay, so let me ask you the question then.
Why did Trump do the worst possible strides and effect?
you predicted it before it happened
you said they're going to be given bad advice to cover up
yeah there's two possibilities
either someone deliberately misled him or he
misled him you know
overestimated his ability to pull people with him
just on strength of personality
sure so why cover it up do you think
Trump's done something wrong
I still don't at the end of the day
I don't think it's there because I think it would have been
leaked a long time ago but I do bet that
the more that he does this it more indicates
that there's probably some sort of peripheral smear
that would go on the idea that somebody
went in and doctored the documents. Alex, you got to believe two very contradictory things to think
that the DOJ altered documents to incriminate Donald Trump, but they didn't alter the documents
that would incriminate Brennan and Clapper and Comey and all these guys that they left evidence
laying around to go and get themselves caught. So that doesn't make any sense to me. But what could
happen is, is Donald Trump is pointed in some unfavorable light and simply being associated with
this man, Jeffrey Epstein at this point. It's political kryptonite. It's, you know, everybody is
No, I totally agree. That's what I said.
And they had two weeks ago.
I figured this out, 340s in.
It was my speculation.
Seeing it, it's a recycle in 2016 that Melania is a hooker, which we know wasn't true.
Under Epstein, a modeling agency, which wasn't true.
The Jane Does that weren't real.
And then Trump goes against the files.
They come back in May.
I think the Wall Street Journal is accurate and say, you're in it.
He just throws a fit and says, shut it down.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I think, like I said, touching it is absolutely the worst-case scenario.
and he did the worst thing you could do,
which would have just been ignoring it.
Unfortunately, he started talking about it.
He called people weaklings.
You and I said that, what, three months ago,
when Bongino and Patel, during the headlights
looked like hostages go on TV.
And I said, then, that's Trump ordering him to do that.
I mean, they'd already, well, we now know,
in May when they did that,
they had brought the files back and said,
sir, your enemy.
And they doofful soldiers went out and did that.
So now we pretty much know what the worst thing is,
though, Alex, the worst is that apparently Pam Bondi
didn't get that message because she was out there touting it over and over again about the tens of
thousands of hours. And, you know, there is material there, whether you like it or not.
I've talked to my guys after the fact they're not political. They're not, they're not,
there's, there's material that exists. But a lot of the stuff that they were doing was using
AI to scrub through and try to like redact victim names and so on and so forth. So they were
trying to do the thing that is required by federal law. And Bondi was out there promising something.
You could tell that when Patel and Bongino were on Fox News, the multiple interviews both together
and separately. Neither them wanted to touch it because they knew what the marching orders were.
They knew they weren't supposed to talk about it. And they knew at the end of the day,
they were going to really disappoint a podcast audience and people that they've been talking to for years.
Sure. That's why their body language was like they were walking a plank. So it's almost
endearing of Trump, though. And I'm not an apologist. I'm telling what I really think,
that it's so badly coordinated. It was really a cover of. It wouldn't be such a keystone cop.
That's a good argument. I like to think that Trump is smarter than that. I mean, he's the
oldest he's ever been. So we've got to be honest about that. People do
make mistakes. They do misread the room on occasion. Everyone's done it. So he could do that.
You'd think that he's got smarter people around him. So can Trump recover from this? And then what would
be the right thing for Trump to do? The right thing is still the right thing. It was the same right thing
that it should have been a long time ago. They should have a press conference with the right people.
You should have Bongino and Patel. You should have Bondi there. You should probably bring in the
evidence technicians that grabbed it. You should bring in people from, you know, previous administrations,
if they're willing to come down and do it as long as it takes.
A couple hours, you know, have the Office of General Counsel sit there and vet, you know,
in and out of bounds.
We can't talk about this because of the following reason.
But let people ask all the questions they have and let them wear it out.
It's the same thing you do when your kids throw in a temper tantrum.
You let them wear it out.
It's like, okay, fine, bring all your questions.
We're going to be as transparent as humanly possible.
We're going to put all the people in front of you.
You're not going to want to air this whole thing.
It's going to be boring television.
And we're going to tell you, yes, no, in and out of bounds.
Here's the evidence tech that gathered it.
Here's the person that checked it in.
here's the agent that did the interviews.
This is what they saw. This is what they didn't see.
There are no co-conspirators. There are some,
but they were not implicated in any meaningful way.
We couldn't get a positive ID on
someone we thought might have been involved. Whatever.
And that's the problem. Trump never
apologizes or admits he's wrong. It's also
part of his strength. But
he has to understand when he came out of the tactics
constituents and said, you're not part of MAGA if you do
this. There's nothing here. He's
come out and say, hey, I want to clarify.
I'm not saying Epstein wasn't bad. I'm saying
that all this hype of me connected and all this other stuff,
that is another Democrat hoax.
He needs to do that because that slap in the face with his constituents is not going away.
I agree.
Again, the two people that are running the Bureau right now went out and talked about it a lot for several years.
I think that's problematic.
And then they got on the right sheet of music when they started working there.
Maybe they looked in and said, holy crap, we convicted a woman of crimes that happened 21 years ago.
We have no evidence of it continuing.
Maybe that's the case.
Like, you know, I don't know.
We haven't seen the entire thing.
And then you have an attorney general that was actually throwing more gasoline on the fire saying that, you know, the list is on my desk and I'm about to release it and you're going to be shocked and Huma Abidine said the whole thing.
So you've created this bizarre, like left hands not explaining to the right hand what the play is.
And so they've played against each other and you got chaos.
And I know it's upset people like Owen.
It upset me looking at it.
It just looks like it's very poorly planned.
Maybe that's the genius of it, Alex.
Maybe you're right.
Or maybe they just screwed up, which happens.
No, I don't think it's genius.
I mean, all I know is it sucked all the odds.
out of the room for everything else
that's going on and people are not
letting it go. When people are told
shut up, it doesn't
go away.
We're going to go to break here.
Go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say, you can't make it go away because there's
three things that are involved. It's the, it's the instinct that there's
injustice and that the rich and the elite have a
different sense of justice. The idea that there
may be corruption and people who are very
powerful have access to tools or government.
And the last thing is that you've hurt children.
And so when you put hurting kids, corruption, and elite, you know, tears of justice put together, all of those things are, you can't take that away.
You can't make Americans unsee that after you've been talking about it for years.
So they're not going to just let it go.
So when we come back, I want to move in other subjects, we have the Democrats with Republicans voting to subpoena all this.
And we have this becoming even a bigger issue of that's possible.
and then we have all these other activities
and things that Trump is saying and doing,
I want to talk to you about how you see this ending
or if there's any way to get out of this
because even Raspus and polling who's very respected
said this has already hit Trump,
massive point loss for the Republican Party.
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I think we knew it before, in all fairness, Tulsi.
But now you have certainty.
She has all the documents.
She has everything that you need.
And she found out that Barack Hussein Obama led a group of people and they cheated in
the elections and they cheated without question.
It's not even a quote.
Would you say there's even a little question there, Tulsi?
She says no.
You found things that nobody thought we'd ever find.
And very happy and very honored to have you with us.
She's right now, by far, Speaker.
She's hotter than you right now, Speaker.
She's the hottest person in the room right now, Speaker.
So Tulsi, great job.
And I know you have a lot more coming.
She told me you've seen nothing yet.
So I heard those rumors about you, but now I know they're true.
So we're very proud of you, Chelsea.
They cheated so badly.
and ultimately it led to a loss in 2020
and it shouldn't have been a loss.
It was a big victory.
We won by a lot.
We had to do it again.
But if I thought we lost,
I would never have run again.
And this is a far more consequential election
than it would have been if we did.
That's the only thing I can say in favor of it.
But we can't ever let that happen again to our country.
Look at what happened in terms of inflation,
in terms of so many things.
but most importantly maybe in terms of allowing millions and millions of people into our country that we shouldn't have.
It's so crazy what we've been through and how epic this has been.
And then to see Trump jump into a bear trap and what he's done,
I want to get into some other issues that are breaking call that you want to get into it.
I want to get into as well.
But first, big picture, what do you think this does the Trump admin?
The polls show that he was bucking the trend of a new incumbent.
president and then almost always,
whoever the party that's incumbent
and winning the general election loses the
house, probably the Senate too.
Raspuson shows that trending.
It's bounced back some, but he really took
bucking the trend and flushed it
with whether he came up with that or whoever gave me the advice.
Looking at all this, how could
Trump extricate himself from this?
Or what do you see happening?
What kind of
confuses me is you went out to a press conference.
Again, if you don't capitalize on that,
if you don't go, he campaigned on lock her up with Hillary Clinton and then sort of relented when he went in the first term and said we're not going to go after Hillary and that's the wrong thing to do.
We saw the exact opposite thing happened when Biden got into office, right?
He went after Donald Trump and knew that that would be his political rival.
So they made that the real problem.
I'm really curious how Tulsi Gabbard was able to find this stuff in six months in being in office when the previous DNI, the last guy that held that job,
is now in charge of the CIA and they didn't go looking for it or find it in 2020.
I don't know why that would, why would that be?
How did it happen that our previous director of national intelligence didn't go looking for
this stuff and why is it available now?
Is it a focus thing?
There needs to be some, there needs to be some explanations.
You know, you can't make the allegation that the previous administration, because people are
acting like Donald Trump wasn't president from 2017 to 2020.
I don't, I don't know why they're acting.
like that. But those of us who live through it, remember he was there. He didn't get it right.
So what is he getting right? Is he de-weaponizing this animal? Is he fixing it? I see guys like
Ed Martin talking about it and he's at a much lower level of DOJ. There are a couple of people that
are mouthing the right things. But if you're going to de-weaponize this intelligence agencies,
then you've got to start by splitting them. So if he wants a big win, he should be investigating
who are the bad actors within these agencies, not the big names, the people that are mechanically
making it happen. And then he also needs
to take the intel component completely
away from the FBI so that they can't
come after us again. Because at the end of the day,
guys like you and me, we're
most concerned that the FBI is going to come knock
down our door. And that's not that the NSA is
filed on us. He didn't say close the FBI
headquarters. He said, get
rid of the intelligence component.
He said, I want to break out the
Intel component. And the advice that I gave him
personally was go give it back to
OD&I. Give it back to the director
of national intelligence and let them run Intel. And
not be underneath the FBI's payroll.
And more importantly, don't let them share intel in the same way.
Look, the threats that the FBI is constantly warding, they're constantly over, like,
they hype every single time that they have a win.
And those wins aren't that big, Alex.
The one in New York is the one we can talk about in a minute.
Let's talk about that in a moment.
So bottom line, what do you?
They need to get rid of this intel.
That's what's going to kill us.
It's people having unauthorized, unconstitutional access to our private information,
whether you be the President of the United States
or whether you be an individual guy
or you'd be a podcaster or a TV person,
it doesn't make a difference.
We should have a bill of rights
that actually means something to law enforcement
and they shouldn't have an end around
that uses Intel.
You're talking about bringing back the Fourth Amendment,
but instead of with AI, it's getting worse.
So your prediction for the Trump administration
on the current trajectory?
I think they probably do lose it
unless something dramatic happens.
Look, if they slap cuffs on Obama
and they actually go out there
and they have a solid case,
like, yeah, people are going to be thrilled.
You're going to get a bunch of people
that are saying, well, you said something and you followed through.
But what we haven't seen is that follow through.
So I don't like to predict the future because I don't know what cards they're holding.
But what I've watched them do in the last six months is overpromise and underdeliver.
They need to switch those around.
They need to change up their business model so that they are underpromising and delivering
way more than people expect.
And then they can also get some wins on the financial situation.
Like, you know, gas is more expensive here in Texas again.
It went down.
It's gone back up.
There's some transient costs that are still continued to go up.
housing is totally unaffordable right now.
My cousin sent me a graph from Zero Hedge that showed that now new housing is actually cheaper
than existing housing.
So people who live in houses can't turn and sell them.
It's actually cheaper to buy a brand new house that they're building.
None of that makes any sense.
So we've got some real problems in like affordability.
You want to deliver what you said, the quote unquote, golden era.
You shouldn't be doing it with memes and eagles that are throwing, you know, dollar bills on people.
You should go out there and let people go and realize, hey, I have more money than I had last month
or the month before or as we moving toward midterms in a year,
they should be looking around and saying, yeah, I'm financially in better shape.
I can afford housing that I couldn't afford before, blah, blah, blah.
Like real wins that people can feel.
Otherwise, you're just doing messaging.
Messaging doesn't win.
I don't think.
I don't think it lasts long enough because people can still look at their bank accounts.
What do you think the Democrats and the real deepshare to do if they're able to win
the House and Senate and then if they got back in power in three and a half years?
I mean, they've said they're coming after everybody.
I mean, I have no reason to doubt them.
I already saw what they did the first time.
They broke, like I said, they broke pains of glass that should have been protecting us from a lot of evil out there.
We had a near assassination on Donald Trump.
You know, that was a hit.
He got hit in the head.
That was probably a millimeter or two away from one of the scariest situations, which is that we live in a country where if you don't like somebody and you don't like their politics, that you go kill them.
And that was really, really close to being the reality of it.
Now, if somebody attempted it, the fact that they didn't, by the grace of God only, we didn't fall into whatever that black hole is.
because we've done all the other banana republic stuff.
You know, we've arrested political leaders.
We've had politicization of our justice department.
We've decided that we're going to go after people for religion,
which is expressly forbidden in our Bill of Rights.
Like this is like fundamental American freedoms have been trod upon,
and I wouldn't think anything else.
I think that whenever the Democrats are playing, they play to win.
And you can at least respect them for always pushing,
even when it's against their own interest.
They keep pushing because they're progressives.
They do progressive work.
It seems like Republicans just like to lose more slowly.
So Donald Trump is more of a brake pedal or a speed bump than he is a U-turn.
And I don't see the U-turn.
I'd like to see the U-turn.
That would make me very happy because I've got little kids that are going to go out into this world.
And it doesn't look like I'm giving them the same sort of, you know, life that I grew up with.
Polk Hogan just passed today.
And I grew up watching American heroes do kind of wild things, like ultimately American things,
like big mussely guys doing entertainment and telling you good messages,
like say your prayers and take your vitamins and work out and be a good person and be a good neighbor.
And like, that's not the messaging that kids are getting right now.
So I would love to see us return to something where we thought we were the good guys.
Your parents are evil.
America's horrible.
Right.
Yeah, this is one of the first generations where they're actually seeing that.
What's crazy is that Gen Z is starting to see through some of this as well.
I saw a poll today from my friends over at Catholic Vote.
They do a news newsletter in the mornings.
It said one in four, Gen Z whatever, whatever, Gen Zers.
are dissatisfied with the fact that they went to college,
that they bought into this thing.
And so you're seeing kind of a swing back towards trades.
I think people are seeing a swing back towards, you know,
rationality because not everybody needs to go to college.
A lot of people went to college and found that it wasn't useful to them.
And Jen Ziers are seeing it really quick as they go into the job market.
So, you know, there's got to be some kind of a correction.
And hopefully it's a correction about rationality.
My hope is that young people are not getting irritated with Donald Trump
because Donald Trump is too conservative for him.
for them, probably him, if we're being honest,
it's probably young men.
I hope that they're like,
he's not conservative enough.
No, it's because I can tell you.
It's because you're not hardcore enough.
I don't need to see polls.
That's what it ought to be.
It's not hardcore enough.
So looking at this in,
this current case,
New York Man charged for making
attempting to use
improvised explosive devices in Manhattan.
And here's the charging document
you just said.
This just came out in the last 10 minutes.
And then we've also got reports
that he was trying to use
AI.
To do it. So what's really going on with this case?
Yeah, it's a real buzzy headline.
So at the end of the day, Alex, what we're looking at is that the FBI director shared this on his social media.
The FBI touts every single what we'll call counterterrorism win, and they want to make it sound as good as possible.
So what's the threat? AI is one of them, that he used AI.
Essentially what he did is he went into Google and he just typed into Google and Google spits out an answer using some sort of, you know, AI or chat GPT, how do I make a bomb?
How can I mix the right chemicals to create flash powder and so on and so forth?
that's what he did. It was really not sophisticated
at all, and any monkey who has a keyboard
and a screen could have done it. But it sounds good,
so they did that. The second thing is what
he actually produced, which was like
seven improvised
explosive device, which were essentially glorified
fireworks, and they weren't even that powerful
for fireworks. The most powerful
firework that he created
was a 30 gram explosive device,
30 grams of powder in it, and I've actually
seen videos. You can go out there, people can look
on YouTube right now and find them.
And people will try to blow up a tree, and it
won't even blow off a tree limb, let alone the entire tree, with a 30 gram, you know, gunpowder
explosive. So you've got this sort of goofy scenario where they're hawking this great win.
This guy had improvised explosives. The best part of it for me is if you read far enough down
into the complaint and you read what happened, the guy called somebody on a taped line and told
them what he was going to do. He told some other witness, like, we got problems in our neighborhood.
Look, there's a Jewish school over there. So you get to get a, you know, like an anti, um,
you know, hate speech type statistical accomplishment that they're going to claim.
And the last thing is he blew up one of these fireworks, told his friend, oh, that was really scary.
I'm going to go get rid of them.
He tried to throw two of them off the bridge, but one ended up getting locked on the tracks of a train.
And then the other ones, he was actually arrested while he was en route to the fire department.
So is this just a mentally ill attention seeker or could this be a...
It's a dummy.
Yeah, he's a guy who's in his 50s who, you know, they cited two posts he made on social media that were five weeks apart, Alex.
One of them said, play like there's no tomorrow, whatever the hell that means.
And the other one said, you know, Donald Trump, you should have built a wall, but now we got all these people here, which is objectively true.
You got a lot of people that are illegally in New York.
So it's acting like it's a big win.
But if that's the biggest win they have, you know the FBI doesn't actually go and interrupt major counterterrorism things all the time because that's what they're out there touting.
It's not impressive.
So looking at this and going back to crossfire hurricane in that clip we play coming into the segment of Trump saying, oh, something really big is.
coming. My takeaway is he keeps begging Bonnie to indict somebody. He's begging Cash Patel. He's begging.
And then at least Tulsi will release a bunch of hardcore stuff that, as you said, Ratcliffe
wouldn't do before. And so he's pleading with them to do their jobs.
He actually, so there was a lot of chatter coming down from DOJ, folks that I've been talking to,
that said that there was this desperate urge. Give us someone that we can indict so we can change
the news cycle up. Like, we need a win. What have you got? And this is the argument.
Okay, so Crossfire Hurricane is weaponization of intelligence.
It's raw intelligence used against a political campaign and then eventually the sitting president.
So that lets you know that things are completely off the rails when it comes to what people should be doing with these tools.
This story in New York is evidence that even with all of the crazy collection that they can do and querying directly of the NSA's database through FISA 702, the software is called the data warehouse system, DWS.
And so they can query directly into places that they should not be.
be able to do. They could look into it without a warrant. And the best win that they have in the
counterterrorism space, which is what the FBI tells you, they're out there protecting America and
keeping, you know, New York City from going boom. Is some guy a war being? It was a firework.
It was a freaking firework that was 30 grams. You can get bigger fireworks here in Texas. You can get
it probably right now, drowned down the street from you in Austin. So that's not that impressive.
And that should actually be the evidence that the FBI director needs. It should be the evidence that
Donald Trump pushes down and says, look, if this is the scary.
thing that you guys can find with all the tools you have.
Maybe you don't need these tools.
Maybe we take this stuff away so they don't use it on me whenever I'm out of office.
Because they used it previously.
And now they say, oh, the TSA is not going to take her shoes off.
We're just going to biometrics and AI total control.
Yeah, I actually saw a really horrific DHS video put out the other day.
It was some lady in sexy shoes walking around and dancing because she doesn't have to
take her shoes off.
It's like, look, we had to take our shoes off for a quarter of a century.
The terrorists won.
They made us inconvenience.
They made us not be able to see our loved ones come off the jetway when they come off a plane.
I mean, I remember it and you remember it.
You used to be able to walk off the plane and hug the people that you were waiting to see.
You can't do that anymore.
Now there's the secured area.
And if anyone's ever done this and seen the audits, TSA fails all the audits.
They fail at like a 90 plus percent rate to the point where they won't put those out anymore.
And now what are they going to do?
They're going to give you more sophisticated tools that somebody is not going to be able to use.
But they're going to grab all your biometrics.
They're going to be able to stand, you know, put those in a data.
And it becomes an internal checkpoint for the social credit score like China has.
That's exactly it.
You know what?
And it's a perfect thing because most people don't opt out.
I'm one of the few guys out every single time I go into the airport.
I tell them I'm not, I must have the face that says it because they actually guess it about me now.
But I have a face that says I'm not going to submit to an extra photograph for no reason.
And they need to tell him.
I was trying.
I flew out a couple of weeks ago.
I walk up and I go, I'm not doing this.
You don't have to.
And it's not the law.
And then the guy goes, hey, like your show.
And then the woman behind me goes, I opted out.
I forgot to do it.
By the way, I love your show.
So it does show how people are awake.
Even the TSA person, the one behind me, but people aren't saying no.
No, people don't say no because, honest to God, it's the same thing we saw during COVID.
It's just basic compliance.
Somebody from a government, somebody wearing the right uniform or with a little shiny piece of plastic or metal told me to do something.
So I go do it.
It doesn't mean you should.
I mean, that's the thing we need to demand of our citizenry is that be citizens.
Don't be subjects.
you have rights. You should know what they are.
If you don't, someone's going to trot on them.
And they already have. They've, they trod
on a bunch of them. So the more that we can
share the information, obviously, your
info wars is very well named.
The information war oftentimes
is just getting people information so they stand
up for their own rights because half the time they just roll
over and they do what they're told. They don't need
to do that. You don't need to have your picture.
What is your report card of good Trump's doing?
They're pulling out the WHO regulations.
They have pretty much secured the border.
They're trying to ramp up border enforcement.
A lot of the super right-wingers say, oh, it's not as good as under Obama, well, because they dismantled it.
I mean, what are the good things Trump's doing?
The best thing, I think, is that he's got some smart people in there that you're not hearing anything about.
Like, go look at the Department of Energy that's starting to get stuff done.
You've got Chris Wright, who went in there and uncovered, I think it was like $90 billion worth of fraudulent movement of money in the last.
It was $902 billion, yeah.
Some crazy amount of money.
You've got smart people that understand those systems that actually work in that industry.
and generally speaking, I've had people say that when, when, when, when, Secretary Wright's actually
sitting and testifying, he's the smartest guy in the room on the topic.
No, I was about to say one of the big wins is cutting the straight up fraudulent funding.
Yeah. And look, the USAID thing, the fact that they even identified this to people and people started realizing what it was.
I had a discussion, and I've gotten a lot of favorable comments from folks that watch my program.
I had a Tanzanian priest come in and beg for money for Wells and sponsoring some of their seminarians in a country that has seen.
68 million people that nobody I've ever met has ever been to. And we give $680 million a year in
non-military funding there. And the total amount of money the United States contributes to all the NGOs
and everything else is like $2.8 billion. We give $2.8 billion a year to Tanzania, which does
nothing for us. And meanwhile, we've got homeless vets down the street from you and I that are dying,
that are overdosing, that have nowhere to live. So we can't take care of Americans, but we're
willing to give money to wells that don't function a year later. So I think bringing awareness to just
we all knew how bad it was in our own sense because you hear about the crazy things that they fund
but the sheer volume of it and then how that money actually goes back and benefits people that are corrupt
that's been a great opening eye point but again opening eyes is part one then stopping it and cutting it and getting it done
and then actually pulling it out of our budget for the future would be nice um sure as you're in closing
I agree.
Go ahead.
In closing, from your sources, your research, what happened with Musk?
Because people are, you know, like, oh, we choose trouble for Musk or whatever, most people.
To me, I didn't see that as a choosing a beauty pageant or something.
I think Doge was very popular.
I think Musk was doing a good job overall.
And, you know, to, I mean, after he took over X and Twitter, all that, I'm just really upset about the Mustang because I think he
was a good asset for Trump in America.
I agree. I think that
I think Musk is a due
guy. He goes out there and he
accomplishes things sometimes out of net loss
until he's able to do it. Then they streamline.
They do things that nobody else is doing. Again, they're landing
rockets on their butts, right? And they're flying him in
and catching him with chopsticks. So that's
pretty wild. To try to apply that to government
where everything is a compromise and everybody
is trying to get something out of it,
you know, that's probably the most frustrating
place he could be. I think he left because he wasn't
going to be effective at the thing that he promised.
and I don't think he likes being unsuccessful at stuff.
I think Elon Musk, when he puts his mind to it, he gets stuff done,
whether or not it makes sense for everybody right up front,
whether or not it's profitable up front.
And, you know, why would you stick around if you knew that,
hey, here's all the waste, here's what we should do,
and there's no mechanism, and there's no willingness to go and accomplish the things that you said,
you're just going to be someone who's promising something you can't do.
You know, unlike the sort of F-Deen situation where they over-promised and under-deliver,
I think he over-promised, saw they weren't going to deliver,
and he just said, okay, well, that's it.
done. If you're not going to let me be successful, why would you stick around? And I don't,
I don't hate that at all, but I don't think it's an either or thing. You know, Elon Musk has done
great things. Just in the seraph and house, the fact that they went out and fought this
free speech case. I think that's critical. That's one of our fundamental lives. Oh, they tried to
take my social media. You should have for me in court, didn't even ask him. Yeah. And look,
all of that is the right answer. So I think at the end of the day, Elon Musk, he's not religious
in the same way I am. I'm sure we have a lot of things that we would disagree on. I've never met the
guy, so I have no reason to feel one way or another other than he does seem to align with
certain principles.
I'm down with that.
Trump has his own sort of thing.
Trump has become more and more political, whether people like it or not.
He's a politician now.
He has to work in a space where there's compromises.
He went out and put the big, beautiful bill out.
But if you remember, the entire reason that Mike Johnson is the speaker in the house is because
they were going to do single subject appropriations bills.
If you want to see the single biggest thing that would turn it for me, do single subject
bills.
Oh, they should all be very short.
You said no more omnibus bills, I agree.
That's what they said, but they're not doing it, so.
Everybody can find you at the Kyle Serifent Show.
Dot locals.com at Carl Serifan on X,
Kyle Serifant Show.com, Rumble.com, Carl Serafin.
Kyle, thank you so much for joining us.
Great analysis.
You've been dead on about the Trump stuff.
Thanks for having me on, Alex.
Thank you.
Look, I need Trump to succeed.
Overall, he's doing a great job in many areas, but PR-wise,
they've now made this Epstein thing, a big distraction.
And I agree with Kyle.
If there's anything real there,
They would have already used it, and I just say release it all and burned down the deep state.
But I wouldn't hold your breath because there's institutions trying to defend themselves.
Owen Schroier is about to take over from the war room 3 to 6 p.m.
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I didn't even get into the law firm headed up by...
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We are truly David
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