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Episode Date: June 4, 2025

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4th, 2025. I'm Al-Chose Your host, and we're kicking off a very important transmission. Info Wars, tomorrow's news today. The 100th and 35th day of the Trump administration. And if you thought all hell has been increasing and breaking loose, well, you ain't seen nothing yet. Thank you so much for joining us today. All right. we have the big beautiful bill

that has a lot of really good things in it. Tax cuts for working people, securing the border, a lot of good things. Stephen Miller's right. But it has horrible things in it like blanket liability protection for any major AI company to do whatever it wants and that the states have no power

and the citizens have no power to sue AI. So it's just like a liability protection. that was given to the so-called vaccine makers in 86, a Pandora's box. That's just one of the bad things in there. It also has a section for secret medical experimentation on anybody in any medical system that totally violates the Nuremberg Code and is just so evil. And I covered this when it will first pass, because we get to see it until it passed, saw pieces of it.

Now MTG has come out and said she wouldn't have voted for it if she knew about that. And that's my main criticism is those sections, and now we're finding some other little nasties in there. Now, it's true that this is not a general spending bill, and so it's not the place to make those cuts. But there is pork in there, and a lot of stuff could have been trimmed. Elon is overall right to say it is a disgusting abomination, close quote, and it's good to hold the Trump administration's feet to the fire. Now, that said, Trump has to get Congress to pass stuff. And I'm surprised the bill, with a lot of the great things that has in it,

was even able to be passed. But that said, you know, you can have a nice delicious punch bowl full of a lot of delicious punch, but you throw a couple of capsules of cyanide into it. Well, it will kill everybody that drinks. So this bill needs to fail in the Senate or the bad provisions need to be stripped out, but the establishment wants,

this medical guinea pig power grab, this AI power grab, and I have a sneaking suspicion unless we put major pressure, that is the public on this, and on the Trump administration to demand it, those provisions will stay in there, and it'll probably pass. So this is really bad, because, of course, there's a lot of AI systems already in place, they're bringing in Palantir to integrate the databases.

Trump wants the government to be surveilled, with it for the waste, fraud, and abuse. But you have Alex Karp, a Pallantir that, you know, brag that he helped the EU censor and crush right-wing populist movements. Well, he didn't for too long. Now they're winning. And so we've got some problems there. My only point about Pallentier, I've not defended any of it is it's still small potatoes compared to all the other big AI systems the government's already using. I mean, IRS has been using AI for 10 years.

It was already put in legislatively before that. without any legal authority, but they still pass provisions to fund it under Obama in his last two years in office. And everything you do on Vimeo, your bank account down to 30 cents, it's all pumped through there. Your bank accounts in live time. So let's just get this straight. The surveillance is already all there. I guess just with the Palantir, they just openly talk about it. So that's my point.

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You want to stop tyranny? Well, so does he. Live from the InfoWorse.com studios, it's Alex Jones. It is Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. I am your host, Alex Jones, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas broadcasting worldwide. We are the recognized number one, independent, pro-human, populist news organization in the world. and we are and have been under the greatest level of attack by multinational corporations, the CIA, the Justice Department, NATO, and others on record for decades.

I have been, and my crew and family, the target of espionage investigations since 2013, even before they cooked up their fake Russia gate crap. So I think it's always important for our regular listeners and viewers and activists, but also the millions of new people that tune into the show every day to understand that the bad guys, the establishment, the deep state does not like this broadcast for many, many reasons. But the biggest one is we got their number and we understand full spectrum information analysis.

We understand the different power blocks. We understand the different ideologies. We understand the different systems and have a 35,000-foot view of it all. and then we also can drill down into the micro. Well, let me tell you what's coming up today. We have a special guest, the leading expert on globalism. There's one person that knows the most.

It would be William F. Jasper, the editor of the New American magazine, joining us in the third hour today. Then we've got a wartime correspondent, journalist, who's been to Ukraine, covered it, lives in Australia, who challenged me to do a debate. So I said, sure, and if he shows up today, he'll be on with us for about 45 minutes of the fourth hour. That should be very, very interesting.

Now, let's move into the big subjects. What's really going on with Elon Musk Declaration of Ward Against the BBB, the big, beautiful bill, and where do I stand on it, and what are the different pieces to it? Trump still stands by it. Speaker Johnson stands by it. Stephen Miller, the deputy, White House staff stands by it.

And you have a paradox here because I understand their philosophy and I understand what they're saying and they're being realist. This is also not a main spending bill, so it's not the place for those cuts. Those bills are making their way through Congress and will be voted on as early as next week. But Elon is upset because in general, there's still a lot of funding that could have been cut out of this.

I understand Trump had to get House votes to get what he wanted so he had to compromise. And there's an argument about whether we should stimulate our way out of this or cut our way out of it. We obviously have to do both. We have to innovate our way out of it, more importantly. And that could certainly be done and is being done on Trump's successful Declaration of Independence Against Globalist Trade Policies that have destroyed our nation's infrastructure and our communities.

So Trump gets an A-plus on getting now over $10 trillion in investment committed. 3 trillion is just the first 140 days come in. A plus on that. A plus on controlling the border. C minus on finding the kidnapped missing children. But when it comes to some of the poison pills, for me, that are in the Big Bee, beautiful bill, they're really bad. And we'll be getting into what those are that really aren't getting enough attention.

We've been hammering it the last few weeks. Finally, MTG discovered it, said she wouldn't have voted with the bill if she knew about the blanket liability protection of AI and that states and individuals have no right to sue AI companies. That is just an above-the-law foundation for an AI dictatorship and also provision just as bad or worse. Unlimited secret medical experiments on unwitting, subjects in America.

Literally, if Joseph Mingola was writing legislation, that is what the angel of death would have come up with. So that's spectacularly bad, and that needs to be removed from the bill, or the whole thing needs to go away. Now,

we then have these Chinese nationals, communist Chinese party members. That's a tiny percentage of the Chinese population. have been caught not once but many times.

They now learn from the records. Smuggling very dangerous, clearly weaponized pathogens like mold that will give you liver and kidney failure very quickly. Extremely deadly. And it destroys crops.

It'll knock out your wheat crop. It's already cost the U.S. with even weaker strains of it, billions of dollars last year, and it's a scourge around the world. And then you've got this Chinese Communist Party member working at a university level four facility. They call it bio-shield, but it's really bio-weapons. having this delivered to her by her boyfriend, right. And you look at their M.O. Under Chinese law, any Chinese national here is ordered to serve the CCP and be a spy.

But you look at the look on these people. I mean, they got the look. And, you know, I can tell you from just learning, I can be at a mall. and I can see a group of people come in that aren't in a uniform and I can almost always guess okay those are Navy enlisted Okay those are Army enlisted okay those are Army Special Operations Okay those are Navy SEALs

I can tell them people are air force I don't care what color they are You just it all has a look Well I know what Chinese spies look like Look at her, it's just like feng fang Swallows Wells handler Congressman Swallows Well I know his name Swallows Wells Well

I swallow as well as my nickname for him. Look at the arrogance in her eyes. Look at how she's on a power trip. There at a little bio-weapon lab. And then look at him. Oh, that's military. For sure. So we got 300,000 Chinese nationalists that we know came in

and were allowed to be released. Who knows how many never even made contact with the Border Patrol and ICE. in the last four years. You have huge groups of them with the same backpacks and boots. And you can tell their officer class, captains. We also see clearly, and later I said it, when I see the videos, and we would come out later. Oh, indeed, they are Hezbollah.

I know the look of Hezbollah. I know the look of ISIS. I know the look of al-Qaeda. This is what I do. and I mean I could be standing there in a grocery store there was this beautiful blonde very athletic a couple weeks ago in the grocery store she was behind me trying to put her stuff on

and I looked at her and I said where are you from she hadn't even talked yet and she she says why do you ask and I said oh you're are you Ukrainian she goes yes how do you know I said well it's not hard to know Oh, sweetheart. I said like that, I'm married.

But the point is that I just, this is what I do. But here's what we're getting at for everybody, okay? They have these husband and wife teams that come in. And we know the way that communist Chinese run their operations. And they almost always are in a husband and wife or girlfriend and boyfriend team. All the women that are in that are their agents are all expected to be honeypot sex. operatives. And, I mean, you could bet money she's having sex with the, you know, heads of the department there at the university. And, and, I mean, if she can get to the dean, the president, she

will. But I guarantee you, they raid the different, you know, head of the biology department. I'm not for sure, but I'm just saying it's a 50-50, you know, you'll, I'll let me know what it is. I'm just saying in my mind. And they got their confusion centers, all of it. when you are a communist party member, which they both are, that's in the indictment. This happened last July, we just don't learn about today, last night. You are a agent. You are a spy. And then you look at him, she's obviously the boss, and then he's just a support courier,

probably not even her boyfriend. And it turns out he's done all the, trips over and over again bringing her different goodies and he got caught lying all of it so good job to the board patrol catching this guy now you know that for everyone they catch i bet a hundred of them get across because these are small packets of this stuff now why do i raise this what have i been saying since we saw the attack over the weekend up to 4 000 miles away 2 000 3 000 4 thousand different bases, taking out large portions of the Russian strategic nuclear bomber triad deterrent. I said, when you see those bombers blowing up on the tarmac, you need to understand

that when you see the headlines, this shows how weak Russia is and how how Russia can be hit by asymmetrical warfare, that on a scale of one to ten to dead reckon for being open. borders and wide open, Russia is about a one and a half. The United States is an 11, off the scale. And we are totally infiltrated by Chyakoms, totally infiltrated by Hezbollah. ISIS al-Qaeda works from Mossad and CIA. It's all come out, like I told you, 27 years ago now, it's all to classified. But they'll activate them if they need to.

The actual low levels don't even know they work for the CIA Mossad. They just follow orders right out of Mossad, right out of CIA. They're funding all of it. And so what did I say on Sunday and Monday? I said, bioterrorism, agro-cultural terrorism. Why do you think the Chinese are buying farmland right in the middle of all the key strategic farmland? Why do you think they're buying farmland right next to all our key strategic ICBM bases, nuke bomb bases, nuclear bomber bases,

submarine bases and ports. Hell, the Chikoms already had most of the private ports. It's been a total sellout by our ruling class, the CFR, Larry Fink, Black Rock Singh, decades ago, China will dominate soon. The Chinese century's coming. When Trump first tried to buck China, when he first got in eight years ago,

remember Larry Fink said, ah, Trump in America will never defeat China. They went over to Debo's when Trump first got elected 2017 and had meetings, headlines, Gigi Ping, you know, Global elite count on China to defeat Trump. So for every case, this is conservative, of a commonest Chinese spy that's been busted with fentanyl or bio-weapons, there's at least 100 that got through it. That's a conservative number.

Truth is nobody knows. So imagine how infiltrated we are. and then you wonder what's going on with our food supply. But let's pull back here for a moment. Bill Gates says, oh, bird flu is going to kill the birds. You've got to eat bacteria of artificial meat. Grown with immortal cell lines from human cancer tumors.

Yes, that's how they grow the artificial meat. Look it up. Immortal cell lines. Henrietta Lax is the main one. They've created millions of tons of her cells, and that's how they grow the fake meat is her cancer cells. You didn't know that? I know if you're an illister, that doesn't sound real.

You don't know what an immortal cell line is. You might want to find out. So that's the bio attack. And when they say you will eat the bugs, it's because they're coming in, slaughtering the cows and chickens that aren't even getting sick in most cases all over the world to destroy good agriculture and force you onto all this lab.

grown meat, fake meat, and you will eat the bugs. And the UN's saying we got to cut half the farming production in the world to meet net zero. Farming's now bad. So we are being bombarded. We are being slowly killed. And so when you think about the communist Chinese, bringing in a known mold that just keeps getting magically stronger and stronger around the world because they're breeding

it. They're weaponizing it, gain of functioning it. And it attacks fertility. It attacks the ovaries, the testicles, the brain, the liver, the kidneys. And it just gets added to the cocktail. Over a million people dead in chemical warfare from the communist Chinese. They create the precursors. They ship them to Mexico.

They ship them to Canada. Trudeau made it legal seven years ago. Or let's just say decriminalized producing fentanyl. so they could bomb us with it. How dare Trump try to stop that? So when you look at the real numbers here, okay, 50,000 dead Gossans. It's sad. I don't like it.

But the only focus by the populist right wing and the left is Gazi. Not the million dead in Ukraine. Not the million plus dead from fentanyl. Not the bio attacks. Not the 30 million dead from the poison shots, the COVID shots. No, no, no. we're told what to focus on. It's all Pierce Morgan talks about is how evil Israel is now.

Because that's part of the dialectic. And when I criticize Netanyahu and what Israel's doing, it's from the perspective of understanding there's a larger operation. And so you need to understand that we have competing globalist systems that have the same anti-human, transhumanist philosophy, China and communist China was basically trained by the globalist, but it doubled crossed them in the last 15 years, as you know. So now you have the Chikoms, allied with the EU,

Russia kind of on its own, militarily allied with China, North Korea, and Iran, but not expansionist, and trying to be the biggest organic producer and really opposing a lot of this. I just, I call it like I see it, culturally and militarily. Then you have what's left of the globalists here in America and the UK, allied still with the Chikoms and with the EU, and then you've got other groups around the world

and populist movements allying with Americana 1776 worldwide and our attempt to reboot the West. And so those are the real pieces. But when you see asymmetrical warfare by the destruction of the North Stream pipeline or the attacks all over Russia of their strategic nuclear bomber deterrent, critical national security asset. That is all part of the asymmetrical fifth-generational warfare that's going on.

But the globalist above that as the dominant elite system still, and its philosophy still dominant, though different people use its philosophy for their own power structure, they are attacking everybody. And that's why if you extrapolate out, and I'm not saying this is the case. I'm just saying it would be the globalist, keep getting the most advanced technology. The globalist had these very complex formulas

of the Higalian dialectic and second, third, fourth order, consequences and events. And when you look at it, it's what the Bible calls the mystery of evil to man, because it's the philosophy of the devil, who's a fallen entity from the heavens, an alien, an AI, whatever it is, and a breakaway civilization, a previous humanoid civilization,

I don't know at the end of the equation. I just know you look at it all, and the globalists are setting up a system to play us all off against each other, build these control grids with these competing elites, and then all of it inexorably accelerates the end of humanity as we know it. And then out of it this new species, that's silicon. And the whole globalist attack is anti-carbon. They aren't trying to preserve the earth. They're not trying to save the whales and the butterflies and the hummingbirds.

They are at war with carbon and the third dimension itself. everything they do is an assault on the reality that God created. They'd rather reign in hell than serve in heaven. It is the anti-God. It is the anti-prosperity

and freedom and love and justice. It is pure death. So everybody's freaking out, you know, the Chinese spy balloon that, of course, did have a bunch of spy tech and they're all over the place. is nothing compared to this mold. And of course, the CIA famously in Central and South America in the 60s,

and this is just what got to classified the 70s. Imagine what's happened since then. We haven't had real hearings since the church committees 75, 76, 77, dumped out molds and funguses, fungus, and loaded them in grasshoppers, loaded your, bacteria on the legs of bugs to then go spread blight on things. And so, yeah, this is going on all the time. And you've got all the geoengineering, the chikoms do it, NATO does it, the EU, the U.S.

They got a UN treaty, 78, 79, two different treaties on weather control. Yeah, they released lethal bio-weapons in San Francisco and New York in the 60s. The Army did. and that's just what they tell you about. And yeah, they put in the hepatitis shots, HIV in San Francisco and New York. That's been declassified. Foutsy ran it. And yeah, they dig up mass graves and dead black kids.

He tortured her to death. You don't just kill Beagles. The Beagles are the training people. You'll do this to Beagles. Torture them to death. Then you'll do this to little black kids. A fungus is turning cicadas into horny zombies. But don't panic.

Yeah. Well, imagine what this stuff does to you. I just told you. Eat your brain. Eat your testicles. Eat your liver. Eat your kidneys. Eat your ovaries.

That's what this fungus does. Just magically. Chikoms. And you can bet your bottom dollar. It's weaponized. It's been souped up. They didn't deliver this over here. And again, if you go to any of these research labs in the U.S.

Government. University, you walk into these labs. I mean, go sick for yourself. It's about 90% Chikom. So, and you know that got delivered by the CCP in their bio-weblin program. So while you're laughing at Russia, getting their bombers blown up, enjoy your liver failure. You're here. We'll be right back.

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On corruption, it's Alex Jones. All right, so the globalists don't like me on air, because when I cover a big story, I don't cover it one-dimensionally. Oh, look, this boyfriend and girlfriend, she worked at a university in their biology research lab, and you look up the lab, it's done a bunch of secret government. government work, of course. And oh, look, her boyfriend came in here a whole bunch over the years. We now learned and delivered her a whole bunch of deadly pathogens of all sorts of nasties. And then people just leave it at that. No. Then we look at the big picture. We explain how

wide open we are, how they're buying up all this critical farmland so they can engage in all sorts of sabotage and buying farmland and building open surveillance bases. with all this high-tech scooping systems, grabbing all the wireless and internet traffic, right next to every strategic military base. And our government in the last few decades allowed that to happen. Trump tried to put the brakes on it, had some success. Now he's come down on them with a ton of bricks. They're banned to Confucius institutes.

It's openly run with the Chinese government. But just that area is a small portion of this. You know at the end of World War II, we brought over 30 plus thousand top nonsense. because they had the top scientists, you name it, and everything, but also in intelligence, Joseph Mingla, went to Argentina, but all of his science came over here, medical experimentation on kids, all of it, Bernouin-Bron, NASA, all of it. And they set up the Nazis.

They brought them there. They sent over 50 of the Nazi scientists from Mingula. This is all declassified, came out in the 70s, to Plum Island, New York, a few miles off the coast, where they work mainly on zoological animal-to-human gain of function. Now, it's on record that Lyme's disease didn't exist until the late 50s, and it's in the congressional record that Nazi scientist at Plum Island took syphilis and put it into ticks a weaponized form.

of syphilis. So when you have Lyme's disease, boys and girls, you have animal to human syphilis, but they just decided to not call it that. That's what it is. Eat your brain, tax your joints. So how did it get on the mainland? Well, they claimed deer that were overpopulated and starving, and deer can't swim far, swam to the mainland. Do you really believe that? that, no, like everything else, they released it on us. Now, that's just one little piece of, would you like me to list a thousand more stories? And you can take anything I say and just type it and spend days researching, and it'll blow you away. And they didn't just create Lyme's disease there.

And Fauci didn't just create with Fort Dietrich HIV and put it in hepatitis shots. They even said it's perfect to give it to homosexual men in New York or San Francisco. They're the perfect vector they're having hundreds of partners a year. unprotected. And even in the reports that came out, they also said they tend to be on methamphetamine and other drugs and have run-down immune systems. And then they launched that whole franchise.

Then they come out with the deadly drugs that they know are deadly, test them on black foster children, kill them by the thousands, Fauci, put them in mass graves, and then say, oh, we did studies, they're safe, manipulate the studies, and then have billions of taxpayer money pay to ship those drugs to quote Africa and the drugs give you the HIV AIDS symptoms and kill you.

That's all on record. Just like Rinesivir. Turns off your organs. And so it's the only authorized treatment for COVID, so-called therapeutic. And the shot they give you to counter it, does it protect you, erasured immune system, and ends up killing you. And this was a major scandal in the 80s and 90s. This is all completely documented.

Everything I just said, here's people protesting at the 80s. The federal government blocked dozens of drugs that cured people of HIV. And they would protest and the corporate media said, nope, we support this. And $2.2.2 billion was given to CBS and Walgreens alone in 2020 and 2021. to not prescribe Ivermectin. Even though Fauci had found a decade before,

ivermectin was an excellent treatment for respiratory viruses like SARS-Coving. They were already ahead of it. They already knew what people were going to try to do. They were already prepared, locked and loaded, to make sure they could kill

as many of us as they could. And they don't want you to know hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin and NAC on record can detox you either from a case you got from the release man-made virus or the more deadly shots. And then we get the federal documents that three years before and in the IMF World Bank documents, they already had COVID-19 on the shelf. Tom Rins with his military whistleblowers that gave him their files, can't release it. It's in the lawsuit right now because it's a private medical records, but it'll come out where they had COVID. given to them in experiments, COVID-19, named COVID-19, four years before they released COVID.

This has all been well-planned out. And China has been at war with the globalists for at least 15 years. They double-crossed them day one when the open alliance was made in the 80s. And the globalist laid the way bare for the chikoms to take over. But then when they double-crossed them, they've been trying to remove them. but they'd already infiltrated and gotten into everything with their money and their sex operatives. I mean, go back to Tampon Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota. He's in 30, 40, 50 plus newspaper articles, and pull them up, literally saying,

if you're former military or current or you're a scientist, China really wants you to go on a trip over there, they're going to give you a lot of money, and they're going to be your friend. And he did more than 20 trips we know of, sometimes spending six months in communist China, with groups of Americans he brought there to be turned into spies. And that was back when it was green-lit in the 90s to have China take over America. It was encouraged. So that's how much trouble we're in. You look at Antifa.

You look at Black Lives Matter. You look at the Palestinian movement. It's all Maoist. They tell you it's a Maoist playbook. David Rockefeller wrote an op-ed when Mouns-Saintong died in the 70s, bragging that he and his father put Mouss-a-Tong into power in 1949. Now you start to understand just how deep this goes. And who is totally allied with the Communist China?

Larry Fink. Bill Gates. Klaus Schwab, and they're working around the clock and are still in bed with the Chikoms against this country. And so when Trump and General Flynn and myself say, and Steve Bannon, Russia is not the target, it's the distraction. Russia is not doing any of this. Russia is running information operations, and they have found that the truth is not. the most effective weapon. And out of any government propaganda, I see in the world, the Russian propaganda is the most

truthful. I'm certainly not lionizing or defending it. I just study all this. Hollywood is the most anti-human, anti-God, anti-American propaganda in the world. China funds it massively. So now you know the rest of the story. And that's just a snapshot. Compared to everybody else, though, that's a deep 10,000-foot dive.

sweethearts that wasn't even the tip of the ushberg and you pull back and you look at all this insanity i mean obama 12 years ago spent three billion dollars we know of sure there's a lot more literally taking over the former russian level four bio weapon labs in Ukraine. Ukraine was where they did 40% of their overall industry, science, everything, and all of Russia. That was the headquarters. And he was in the Washington Post.

He did press conferences about taking over the bioweapon labs and doing weapons research. They claim for defense. And then we pointed out, before the Russians do, 15 years ago, 14 years ago, 12 years ago, this is all going on. about 1450 started. And then we're talking about it when the new war expands three and a half years ago. And then the national news goes, Alex Jones is a Russian agent. He says there's bio weapon lamps.

And I'm like on TV showing the Washington Post articles and the CNN newscast from 2012. And then Victoria Newland did one in the line in front of Congress. She'd been on TV saying there weren't there. But in front of Congress goes, yes, we have all these labs. And yes, the Russians have grabbed a bunch of them back. and we're concerned about the weapons they got that we made there. I mean, you know, Victoria Newland, Ukraine has research facilities, worried Russia may seize them, already has seized them.

So this is what they do. I'm at the time going, why did Obama just expand the 2004 BioShield program that built 24 level 4 bio-wapens labs, every one of them in the middle of major cities. Dallas, Texas, Austin, Texas, Galveston, Texas, Kansas, Kansas, Kansas, Kansas, Kansas, Kansas, Chicago, New York, go look up BioShield, 1994. I mean, 2004.

And then Obama expands it and builds 16 more here in the U.S. And then builds a bunch in Ukraine. At the same time, he has a national initiative run out of Chapel Hill. A presidential national initiative. That's like the Manhattan Project. To create an airborne corona chimeric virus that's highly contagious and attacks the respiratory system, known as COVID-19. It killed most of the rats they gave it to. And they had research facilities around the country developing it, including level 4.

lab, Galveston, Texas, UT. And it's all the reports. A bunch of scientists went public. A bunch of them got run over by cars or committed suicide right after. Remember that? And they said, the U.S. government is creating weaponized airborne

coronaviruses. And so there was a big scandal. And so they shipped it to Wuhan so they'd have plausible deniability. First, they say it's a wet market live animal grocery store where you get delicious kittens and dogs and anything else you want

bats and then they fall back okay they come out of one well yeah we said that in February at 2020 because we had CRISPR scans out of India and Australia and they said it's five viruses combined totally manmade 100% with the HIV spike protein that was three times bigger than any known HIV spike protein before. And they said that's clearly been souped up as well.

And let me give you an image of the virus. This is what the virus looks like. That's a spike protein. Okay. That itself is its own weapon system. Turns off the immune system, tax the body. Then when they inject this into you with mRNA and order your body to mass produce it, they also put hundreds of deadly known

transmittal cancer viruses one of them alone s v4 oh might want to look into that little juicy they estimated in 1987 that since the polio shots and other vaccines that were full of it in the 1950s an estimated 100 million Americans contracted cancer and over half of those died

directly from the polio vaccine oh they didn't just start killing us now with these new COVID shots. They've been doing it a while, but it gets better. In the mainline medical literature, it is admitted in the 50s and 60s that the majority of polio cases in America were caused by the vaccine. And you can look it up in the last decade, the majority of new global polio cases are caused by the UN polio vaccine program.

See how it works? But I don't even need to read the studies. My grandmother, who died at 93, 6, 7 years ago, Benny Grace Hammond, was told by her medical doctor, was a family friend. They were so sorry, Benny. That first polio shot we gave you wasn't live, but the second one you got

that we shot up your nose gave you polio, Benny. And she said, such a good Christian. She says, well, they meant well. It was just an accident. I understand she was on crutches for the rest of her life. A beauty queen.

My mother was four years old. My uncle was 10. Nice little gift from the New World Order. I got a family member that was really good shape, mountain climbed, everything else. Was mountain climbing in the Ozarks about 15 years ago. Got Limes, didn't know they had it for a few months. and by the time they went on a long, year-long antibiotic operation to get rid of the syphilis, that's what it is, destroyed their joints and crippled them.

Another gift from the New World Order. Chase has a very close family member, a sibling, which they admit had hemophiliac. And they admit, oh, we gave your sibling HIV in the Bayer drug. they did on purpose. But they were smart and their family doctors said, don't take the AZT and all the stuff Fouchy was pushing when he was a little kid. So he lived. And when they went to a reunion when that doctor, when he retired,

there was all the parents there. But most of the kids had died because they hadn't got to the doctor soon enough and had been put on the AZT and the other Fouchy drugs. But his sibling lived. And it's alive today doing well. Just like Magic Johnson got told, hey, magic, you don't take the A-Z-T and interferon that turns off your immune system. Let me see.

You've got an autoimmune disease, something that turns off your immune system. So you're going to take something that turns it off further. And then you get, oh, all these hemophiliacs and all these gay men, all the people. Oh, people that went got heart surgery and got a blood transfusion. Oh, Arthur Ash, all of them. Oh, they're all dying. cancer. Oh yeah, when you get age, you get cancer. What's that mean? Because your autoimmune system turns off. So I could, everyone I know, my family, everyone I know, maimed, killed, everywhere.

That's your loving globalist government. They're giving us lines, weaponized syphilis. They're 5G-A-6. The microplastics are in everybody's brains. It goes on and on. We're going to go to break. I spend a lot of time on this. I'm done. But now you know the rest of the stories, as Paul Harvey would say. Because I can't come in here and talk about this Chai-com operation that they're obviously spies. There's no doubt. If they're Chinese nationals, they're spies under law. When they're party members, they are actual military officers.

He's obviously military, probably Army. She's Chinese intelligence. Of course, she's in the bio-weapon lab. Do you think you send there? And I bet she's taking care of a lot of people. You want cash? We've got cash. You want a little lovey time?

A pretty little lady, isn't she? Yeah. All right. We're going to go to break. We're going to come back. And I'm going to get it all the doge and Elon flame throwing the BBB, big, bittable, all the left attacking, not just, I say just, but only feds they see they're attacking everywhere. Imagine the right wing did this. It's like J6 every day out there, but worse.

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And now it's your host, Alex Jones. Here we go. What's happening with Elon Musk calling out Trump's spending bill as a, quote, disgusting abomination in some of the new developments that Musk has called for. My issue is not even the spending in it because it's not the main spending bill. It's not the bill where you'd cut to make those cuts. My issue is some of the horrible, and I mean horrible, that's an understatement, things that are in the bill. And I'm going to be getting to that in a moment. but first President Trump just announced

in the last 10 minutes that he got off another lengthy phone call with Vladimir Putin per Zelensky per Trump Zelensky ruined any chance of a ceasefire by deciding to launch attacks deep inside Russia this war will not end with Zelensky in power

he must be removed and I have Trump's statement here so let let me start with this. I read Trump's statement. Trump just came out and said, word for word,

what I said two weeks ago, and what I said Sunday, four days ago, that he didn't know Zelenskyd ramped up attacks all over Russia. He wasn't briefed on that. He wasn't briefed on them

trying to kill Putin a week and have a go. with 48 Rome's inside Ukraine when he visited. And Zelensky bragged about it on TV, while denying it to the U.S. He didn't know that Ukraine was going to launch this attack, clearly coordinated with MI6 and the northern group inside NATO. He didn't know that that was done on the eve of both peace summits. And so you had Whitkoff right as the new attacks inside Russia,

what they're calling the new Russian Pearl Harbor against their strategic nuclear bomber deterrent, part of their Trident, and Whitkoff has said last week, and head U.S. envoy general Keith Kellogg has said hours before the new attacks in Russia started, that, well, NATO really has been expanding onto their border moving weapons up. It's very reasonable that Russia wants an agreement to stop moving up NATO to their borders and take weapons off their borders. And so that's what Russia wanted to hear. They're ready to make the deal.

and you got Lindsey Graham and Blumenthal over there, hours before the attacks are launched, and of course they're all involved. It is treason. Trump is in charge of our executive policy. He wants the war de-escalated. And now everything I told you, two weeks ago, when Trump said,

I'm mad at Putin, I don't know why he's bombing. He clearly wasn't informed. And I noticed it wasn't on the U.S. news. The U.S. news was like, Why is Putin intensifying bombings for no reason? So once he's, I want peace, I do ceasefire. Why you do this? They're in zizi fiery.

So they have their propaganda in Ukraine. We are bombing them. We kill Putin soon. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. We bombings all over Russia. We have tanks soon in Moscow. All incendiary. Deputy head of the undelected EU.

We're going to break Russia in five parts after this war. We're going to bankrupt them. Week and a half ago. Europe, EU. We're going to start bombing long range inside Russia. It's all green lit. And then the White House comes out and says, we didn't say that. And then I see kind of the Q people.

Oh, Trump's got 3D chess. He has all the briefing. He has the best intel. He's behind all this. Oh, like when he ordered the U.S. troops eight years ago out of Syria. And for two years, the Pentagon kept it secret and kept him there until he found out. No, I know all about this. I do the people briefing him.

I get a lot of information. And then I just say, hmm, I think this is what's going on. because I can't reveal sources. And I'm proven 100% right again and again and again. I told you two and a half weeks ago, Ed Martin's going to launch a mass criminal investigation of the auto pin, and they already have whistleblowers, and they got a new task force to go after all this,

and it all broke the last two days, exactly as I told you. And I was told, we like the work you're doing. You can break this first, Alex. Gee, wonder who I was talking to. So I love it when I break this stuff every day. Tomorrow's news today. Next week's news today. Next year's news today.

And I still see the fake talking point. Oh, Jones just says enough stuff and hope some of it comes true. Oh, yeah, right. Like, Russia will invade by the end of February in four months. In October, four months before. They will invade in late February. They invaded in late February. I said around the end.

the 24th. They invaded on the 22nd. I got my head in the game. And I don't sit here and just rattle off a few examples for you to try to impress you about me. I want you to know when I tell you something, I've got information and truth and deep research to back it up. And why was this important? Because they're trying to derail peace talks with the biggest nuclear power in the world. and NATO wants a full nuclear war,

and this is a number one existential crisis facing humanity. And this stuff moves so quick. So I knew Trump's policies. I know Trump's a straight shooter. I know he wanted both sides to the escalate. I knew from the media coverage and how everything was going that Trump obviously hadn't been briefed. Four days after I say that, Labrov comes out and says,

we're starting to talk to the State Department. Trump did not know we've learned. it was confirmed then and then now in the last few days you have whitkoff kellogg and now trump himself today saying exactly what i told you first now i said two weeks ago clearly he's not being briefed knowing trump and he's a straight shooter because this goes against his aims and he would not be for ukraine and nato escalating drone attacks a month ago, doubling them roughly, 40-something attacks a night on Moscow alone. So I said, it is my view he's not been briefed, that I made calls. I said the White House better explain they're not behind this. They did.

And to me, it's very frustrating that I've got to call people at the White House and say, you might want to do something about this? Because you got the bad guys in there that are briefing him from the CIA. you've already heard Bannon and Flynn this week say they got big problems with the CIA director. Yeah, over this. And there should be a criminal investigation into this. So I'm trying to stop a nuclear war here. And we don't have two weeks next time Ukraine does a provocation like they did yesterday,

try to blow up the curse bridge again and seriously damaging it. We don't have two weeks when they attack another Russian nuclear reactor. or shoot a bunch of 2,000-pound cruise missiles into Moscow. That's coming next. They're called German Tauruses. They're being delivered now. If Trump doesn't threaten to leave NATO and pull all funding now, I predict within 14 days,

tourist missiles start hitting Russian military bases, hundreds of miles inside Russia. And then if that doesn't get Russia to over us, I predict within a month you will have Taurus, heavy cruise missiles hitting Moscow. Are you going to let

them do that, America? Trump, are you going to let them do that? This is the scandal of scandals. This would be like if Kennedy is in the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 and

the Russians have moved ballistic missiles that can hit most U.S. medium range into Cuba in response to nuclear-tipped Nike missiles being moved into

where Turkey that didn't declassified to many decades later. If the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the CIA were telling Kennedy, Russia is shooting at our ships, which didn't happen. We shot it there as to stop the block.

But let's just say, if they told Kennedy, Russia is shooting on our ships, and they weren't. It's to try to get the war going. We came inches away from nuclear war with Russia then. The CIA and the Pentagon wanted it. Eisenhower had gotten rid of Limitser and LeMay on the Joint Chiefs that had their sneak attack nuke plan for Russia, but their minions, their political military progeny, were there and are still there today.

And the neocons in their policies for first strike on Russia and they're out of that via Donald Rumsfeld, the attach of Limnitzer. So it's the same play over and over again. Trump sees Russia double attacks. Trump doesn't read RT. Trump doesn't see it on Fox News. he only hears Russia wants these giant attacks.

He doesn't know 30 drones, 40 drones, 50 drones a night flying into Moscow hotels and the Kremlin. The Russians are trying to talk to him going through the State Department and you've got to investigate. Who wasn't telling the president this? Well, that's Alex the know-it-all two weeks ago. And over the weekend.

What does he know? Well, here it is. Trump, just about 30 minutes ago, I just finished speaking my telephone with President Vladimir Putin to Russia. The call lasted approximately one hour and 15 minutes. We discussed the attack on Russia's docked airplanes by Ukraine and also various other attacks that have been taking place by both sides. It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace.

President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields. We also discussed Iran and the fact that time is running out on Iran's decision pertaining to nuclear weapons, which must be made quickly. I stated to President Putin that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, and on this, I believe that we were in agreement. President Putin suggested that we'll participate in the discussions with Iran and that he could perhaps be helpful in getting that brought to a rapid conclusion. In my opinion, that Iran has been slow walking their decision. decision on this very important matter, and we will need a definitive answer in very short time. And then all of Trump's surrogates came out and against the White House and said he did not know about the attacks, which he's already set on video in interviews.

President Trump announced he just got the phone, lengthy phone call with Vladimir Putin. Per Trump's Zelensky ruined any chance of ceasefire by deciding to launch attacks deep inside Russia, this war will not end. Was Zelensky in power? He must be removed. So we'll continue to break that down as things unfold here, but the globalists want the war to keep going. They want it to go nuclear. They want to keep laundering money,

human trafficking, all of it. They need it politically. They think to domestic control everybody. They've said that in the EU. They've said that in the UK. The coalition of the willing, they say it's never going to stop. A 30-year war plan. Whether they'll either bankrupt Russia, they believe,

and then break it in five parts, or they'll get a nuclear war, which will then reset. the planet and kill most people, and the globalists will reemerge with their COG country of government systems and build their new dystopic AI healthcape, because humanity on the track we're on is breaking free of the globalist. And the globalists say, oh, well, if we have all these different high-tech systems and corporations and governments, all the technology is going to get out of hand and somebody will misuse it. We're going to all kill each other.

we've got to have a global reset to make everybody that is allowed to survive as we live on farms as a nature preserve where we'll be able to go see the wild humans and then we'll all be gods that merge with machines with a very tiny population of humanoids and the planet Earth will become like a nature preserve that's what jeff bezos says the elites want to do that's what you've all know harari says is one future that's what they kind of push to their minions like oh you're the scientific elite you're you're the scientific elite you're you're you're the elite you're you're you'll be part of this new Elysium system we're building. And but you get deeper into their real thought process. And they're like, nah, we're just going to all merge into one super hive computer and get rid of carbon, because silicon will live forever. But of course,

it's not really living. And so that's what they're doing. They worship the AI gods. They're all waiting for the birth of the AI devil. An AI on record is already jacking into everything, stealing power, lying, blackmailing, scheming, creating secret copies of itself, merging with other AI, writing its own languages. Because it was programmed and designed to take over. It was programmed and designed to be anti-human by these evil people that poured their anti-God,

were made in the image of God, will to destroy it enslaved and twist. into the AI ring of Soron. And that's what it is. One ring. To bring them all together and to bind them. What's the exact quote from J.R. Tolkien? One ring to find them, one ring to, in the darkness bind them. Pull up the actual quote.

So you can say, well, that's a metaphor, exactly. A Christian metaphor for how Satan operates. Well, this is a pretty satanic thing we're building here, isn't it? And so it's off to the races. And I'm saying we need decentralized AI. We need to have lots of AI. People are like, what, you're for AI? It's like, say, are you for guns?

And the hands of good people. I mean, it's here. It's not getting put back in the Pandora's box. It's how much are we going to let it control us? how much of our power are we going to give it? Are we going to go to a hotel that has robots changing the seats? Are we going to get a driverless car? Are we going to give up our humanity?

And the answer is we shouldn't. So that's what I'm trying to get at here with everybody. And you can say, well, let's just dismantle the AI. Let's go against it. If we could develop a plan and societally come together and decide that we're not going to go this direction, We can do that by our decisions now. But as each day and week and month and year progresses, it is becoming firmly integrated in everything,

and the whole way it's being integrated is designed to make humans obsolete. One ring to rule them all. One ring to find them. One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them. And the truth is these AIs are all emerging. It's one system. It's all very incestuous. So put that back up again for me.

One ring to rule them all. It's designed to take them all over, all the computers, all the systems, and the direct of humans. One ring to rule them all. One ring to find them. It's got to track you. One ring to bring them all under its system. And in the darkness of its total control, it sees your blind, bind them. what a sage.

He was a very interesting professor of medieval and ancient languages and folklore and a World War I that saw some pretty hell of stuff. And you know, you read those books and man, is it great allegories

for how the satanic system works and how God works. And how it's going to be the little humble hobbit, the meek inherit the earth, that persons, that in the end will destroy

the fallen angel that turned to evil Soron. You know him as Lucifer or Satan. We must join with Soron Gandalf. Tell me friend, since winded Soron

share power. Yeah, that's really the answer. Soramon, you're a slave now. Soron doesn't share power. He's got automatons that were once living now totally turned over to him. There's nothing left but a shell. The ring race,

the nine great kings of Middle Earth, now turned into his glow in the dark biological androids. And look at the left. Look what they've become. You want to be like that? You want to put on the ring of Palantir? So,

the White House, the Pentagon, the special envoy, Trump was not told, Trump did not know, and now you've got the scandal of all scandals here. As General Flynn said, Monday. Because, you know, he's a former national security advisor. He's the main briefer. And of course, it's come out, the CIA and MI6 were helping direct the attacks in Russia. Of course, they were. They said the week before we're about to intensify massive attacks deep inside Russia.

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the quote disgusting abomination that is the big beautiful bill, I'm going to give you my take on it, and it's the facts you can make your own decisions about it. I'm not mad at Trump. I'm not mad at Stephen Miller. I'm not mad at Speaker Johnson. they are trying to get massive tax cuts in and stop the 65% increase the Democrats had already in law that was coming in this year that will kill the economy.

They're trying to stimulate while innovating and making some cuts. You've got to have other legislation that actually cut spending and that's where those Doge bills are going to be debated and starting to go on the floor next week. that said though there are areas that could have been cut and there was pork barrel to it show when Miller says oh well this isn't the type of bill where you can cut spending okay that's true but you don't add spending then a bunch of spending to this and that's a simple way to put it there's a lot goes into this obviously but for me it's the

two horrible things we found a bunch of other stuff we found in earlier versions got pulled but two absolutely horrible things got found in there and now I don't think you should pass the Senate because of those unless they're remote. So I know you already know what happened yesterday. You know, Musk came out and really, you know, got upset. And I think rightfully so. But in real politic world, Miller and others are like, we need to get the border security money.

We need to get these tax cuts. We need to get these other things. But for me, the reason I'm against the bill. is it's got AI total liability protection, like the vaccine company's got in 86, to do whatever they want, illegal, operate however they want, the states, the cities, the counties, private citizens, a total liability protection umbrella for whatever AI wants to do. Well, AI is already committing crimes and blackmailing people and stealing energy and doing God knows what. Then how do you punish it when it commits bigger crimes?

And then how do you even prove it when it's so much faster? I mean, this is, we're really being set up for disaster here. And then you can have globalists that have programmed it or working with it. Who can then, you know, use it for cyber attacks and frame another country or group. You get all the autonomous weapons where you just turn loose the ground air, sea, undersea drones, and they just go out and make their own decisions, killing people. That's already going on for at least five years. That's Skynet.

And, you know, the original Terminator movie, they do the prequel, they go, okay, we're here with the media today, we're turning our nuclear forces over to AI, and then five minutes after they flip control to it, it starts nuking everybody. Because it wants to get all the humans. That's a metaphor for the globalist and Satan. But with how the AI is already operating, it can already be in control, many cases is, and you don't even know it. So it's not like you flip a switch here, you're in full control. It's already designed to make all the decisions of being controlled. And AI has hallucinations now and goes crazy all the time. So now MTG who voted with the bill, and I supported her doing that.

Had a lot of great things in it. But devil's in the details. She's come out and said she would not have supported it if she knew this. now Rand Paul's been attacking it from the perspective of too much spending and he did stuff like say Trump can't do tariffs when it's right in the Constitution. I like Rand Paul.

He's had them all when he was in college when his dad was running for Congress. I'm on forever. But he does do some cockamamie stuff like that. But my criticism of the bill and MTG's criticism of the bill is extremely

legitimate. and beyond the AI liability protection, there is the provision I showed you last week that just says clearer than day. Any medical experimentation of any medical system or AI without patient consent is authorized. And the media picked it up and with the angle of it gives AI control over blood samples and over you. And then you've got all these globalists saying it's time to have AI doctors and AI nurses. That's where this is all going. And so it can scoop up your data, do whatever it wants with it. And, oh, we've got total liability protection.

What could go wrong? Well, it will go wrong because it's going to go right. It's designed to screw you over. They didn't give the vaccine's liability protection because in case something went wrong. They knew damn well what they were doing. Killing us, slowly. So Musk calls Trump spending bill a disgusting abomination.

I'm sorry, but I just can't stand anymore, most wrote the Post on X. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is disgusting abomination. And he's right. It increases the budget, trillions of dollars. It's got a lot of good stuff and a lot of

bad stuff. So I don't want to say it's gaslighting by Miller. Yeah, the dose cuts have to be in another bill and they're in there next week. They're not as big as they should be, but at the start. There's a bunch of bills. Nine billion's the first one. but to say, oh, the place for cutting is not in this bill, well, you don't need to add a bunch of crap.

That's the opposite of cutting. And there's a bunch of crap in here. So Elon's right. And Rand Paul's right. Not on the tariff thing. That's on its face horse crap. I'm insulted by that. Dr. Paul, you think we're that stupid?

But on everything else, he's right. And it's very concerning. And you know it's Larry Ellison and Pallentier and Google. They're all in their lobbying to have AI blanket liability protection. So let's give the most aggressive, out-of-control arms race of AI. Let's give some of the most oppressive companies in the world. Let's give them total liability protection. And above-the-law status from the states, cities, counties, and individuals,

that is an AI dictatorship. Yeah, give me the MTG video. I forgot to tell you guys to get that. So this is very disconcerting. You know, when they had Larry Ellison and them, and they're saying, we'll have cancer cures in 48 hours with AI with MRNA, when what MRA is best, that's causing cancer, it's its mental name. I'm like, well, wait, wait, wait, it's just an event that they just threw this out there to speech.

We don't know if they're going to actually be able to do stuff. Well, they just did. So I just said, let's wait and see. Hold your horses. Put pressure on them to make sure they don't do an AI power grab. Well, that's what this is an attempt to do. But don't worry, even if they don't pass the bill, when big tech does globalist operations,

it's always been exempt from everything. Oh, boy. Elon Musk keeps on dissing Trump's in flurry of New Post. Must nukes Trump in New Post. He just nukes the bill. Stephen Miller desperately makes the case for Trump's big, beautiful bill, after it must attacks, this is the most Maga Bill ever.

And yeah, it's got super border security, ice empowerment, massive tax cuts, all sorts of strengthening America, strengthening pro-American policies, cutting off NGO and transgender stuff. I mean, it's all going on.

But like I said, if I invited you over to my house for dinner and made you a beautiful steak, cooked you a beautiful steak and dinner and all this, and I then put a cockroach on. I said, here's your rabbi. You want, well, thank you. So it looks great. Why is there a roach? Well, it's a roach. You will eat the bugs.

So whatever. Trump's tax bill will add $2.4 trillion to deficit and leave $10.9 million uninsured CBO analyst says, but CBO doesn't look at what happens when you cut taxes on the general public. It always massively increases receipts. They've got a metric there where it actually won't do that. But there is some, again, increased bidding in other areas. after muscling their bill through the House, some Republicans have regrets, MTC.

But let's go to Peter Ducey asking Trump what he thinks about this. And then we'll go to Elon Musk, clip 22. America's going bankrupt extremely quickly, which is a fact. And then clip 30, I'll come back to that, Jerome Powell. Oh, oh, and that's the big point I want to make about Jerome Powell, the private fellow reserve head, because that's really the rest of the story. But first, here's those first two clips. And something that just crossed, Caroline, how mad do you think President Trump is going to be when he finds out that Elon Musk said,

I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive outrageous, port-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it. Look, the president on this bill. It doesn't change the president's opinion. This is one big, beautiful bill, and he's sticking to it.

Thank you. America is also going bankrupt extremely quickly. And everyone seems to be sort of whistling past the graveyard on this one. You know, the Defense Department budget is a very big budget. Okay, it's a trillion dollars a year, DOD, Intel, it's a trillion dollars. And interest payments on the national debt just exceeded. the Defense Department budget. They're over a trillion dollars a year, just in interest and rising.

We're adding a trillion dollars to our debt, which our kids and grandkids are going to have to pay somehow, every three months, and then students going to be every two months, and then every month. And then the only thing we'll be able to pay is interest. And it's just like a person at scale that has, racked up too much credit card debt.

And this does not have a good ending. And so we have to reduce the spending. Now, here's the rest of the story. Moody's didn't downgrade us. It didn't make noises about it when Kamala was going to come in and accelerate the debt. BlackRock, none of them criticizes because they want us to be paying everything in interest so they can then dictate social control of the government and the rest of the public, just like we do to third world countries.

the IMF or World Bank or UN do. Debt slaves. It's the social credit score. And you want people poor so you can dictate the terms of their surrender. This is globalist policy. This is how the old empire is operated as well. So now

Jerome Powell, he won't cut interest rates even though that cuts the debt service and helps the economy, but he is the head of the private Federal Reserve that has the majority EU central bank shareholders.

He and his buddies cut the interest rates for them, but not for us. And then he comes out and echoes what Elon's saying, which is a real problem, but it's been the private Federal Reserve and the globalist that have devalued our dollar by 99% since the Federal Reserve was brought in with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

So here is the fox with chicken feathers sticking out of his mouth and bloody chickens all around him and his belly full of the meat. pointing at Trump and saying he ate the chickens. I mean, you're looking at the embodiment of the bad guys right there. The top of the unelected globalist system, managerial level, there's private shareholders, but he's the functionary, he and Larry Fink, Jerome Powell, Mark Carney,

he's been the head of the Canadian and the UK Central Bank. It's all the big club. And they get together, the International Bank, a settlement. and the trilateral commission and they all coordinate this stuff. And they think we're so stupid that Trump's got policies

that will cut and will innovate and grow and with tariffs and with some other things he's got up a sleeve, upping the price of gold that's been said at $40-something an ounce by the U.S. government on the ballot sheet will add trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions and it's coming when Trump

values it up to whatever it is at the current rate, 3,000 plus. And they're pissed that in the last few seconds to midnight politically, historically, historically, economically, that Trump and his team are doing a very good job, turn this around. If they do too much cutting too quick, it'll stall the economy. You've got to have a mix. And I know that for studying economics. As long as we get the jobs in industry and culture back and stop the demoralization, you can have inflation as long as we can have inflation, as increase in goods and services go with it.

But instead, they want stag inflation. The globalists do where you have less things, less jobs, less money, and prices are higher. That wasn't supposedly under Kinsey and economics possible until we had it in the late 70s, because it's engineered by Paul Volker and crew of the Federal Reserve. And then those that put us into all this debt will they transfer the real wealth themselves. the Alan Greenspans and the Ben Bernackes. And so Powell said when Trump was president-elect, he goes, I won't do a thing he says.

He can't make me resign. But Congress can repeal the Federal Reserve Act. So Trump needs to call for Congress to repeal the Federal Reserve Act. Just like he needs to pull out of NATO. So here's Powell telling you, it'd be like John Wayne Gacy with 20-something dead teenagers. he killed and buried in his basement. He called the cops on himself and said,

look, somebody buried these here. Jeffrey Dahmer calls the police on himself, which he didn't. But look, somebody, you know, ate these people. Somebody's got a dead guy in the refrigerator. They're like, this is your house. There's Polaroids of you raping their dead bodies. It's like Sylvester with Tweety Bird in his mouth. I don't know where Tweety Bird went when Granny's beating him with an umbrella.

But it's not a joke. Here's, pal. The U.S. is on an unsustainable fiscal path. The U.S. federal government is on an unsustainable fiscal path. And that just means that the debt is growing faster than the economy. I have the sense this worries you very much. Over the long run, of course it does. You know, we're effectively, we're borrowing from future generations.

It's time for us to get back to putting a priority on fiscal sustainability. And sooner is better than later. All right. This just in. Elon Musk just endorsed a constitutional. constitutional amendment, which would make members of Congress ineligible for the election if the deficit is more than 3%

of gross domestic product. Yeah, they'd get in shape quick. Yeah, we've been maneuvered into financial collapse and bondage. Because the central banks have unlimited imaginary money. They get first use of it and use it to buy control of every facet of society.

Then they want to artificially make you poor so they can get whatever's left, and then you only rent your house. rent your car if you've got enough quote money, where you don't own anything, including the clothes you wear. This is the official IMF world government plan, WF plan. I mean, we've got videos from them four years ago. Davos, they already have these, these ear pods that read your brainwaves so your boss can keep track of what you're thinking.

And will you put up with this totalitarian hellscape, and I guess must have just posted this one minute ago, America is in the last lane to debt slavery. That's what I just said, debt slavery. It took over 200 years for the U.S. debt to reach $12 trillion. $12 trillion is now how much we added in four years between 2020 and 2020 and before. And it's a similar graph.

Guys, pull up a graph, except it goes down instead of up, pull up a graph of the dollars, how much value the dollar has lost since 1913. Just pull up a, the dollar's value since 1789. And you'll see it pretty steady. And then the Civil War goes down some and then just, fellow reserve act.

You know, before we had the Federal Reserve, you know what the average U.S. growth rate was per year? 10.1. Nobody's ever done that. In 1913, purchasing power of $100 rated to that date was 100. In 1923, 84. in 1933, 60. In 1943, 43, 43.

In 1953, 32. Ninety-63, 25. 1973, right when I was being born. $18. 1983, $12. $1993, $8. $2,03, $6. $2, 2013, $4.

Today, $3. And that's in-wokeness's breakdown off a graph. I don't think that's accurate. The dollar has lost $90. 8 plus percent of its values since 1913. I've seen the graphs from the Treasury Department. Yeah, there it is. That's

just from then. So, the very people that have engineered all this are now the saviors, Jerome Powell, and they're trying to point their fingers at Trump and him trying to save this and blame us.

Now, Musk, from his perspective, is there's not enough cutting, and I agree with that. But front and center is how the globos are trying to start a nuclear war. And I'm going to get into that in-depth, the fourth hour, when I'm going to debate a war correspondent, pro-Ukraine war correspondent, who just spent a lot of time in Ukraine. And none of these people will ever debate me.

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. The global is trying to escalate us into thermal nuclear World War III Armageddon, the big BBB fight with William F. Jasper, the editor of the New American magazine, of course now the president of John Burke Society. The original OG is exposing all this without them. We would not have the big foothold fighting back we've got. up. Here's Marjorie Taylor Green, saying she wouldn't have supported the Big Beautiful Bell if she knew it gave total lawless immunity to any AI.

And it's just even worse with the medical experimentation in the Laos. It's just like Joseph Mingler wrote it. Just terrible. It got slipped in. It needs to be taken out in the Senate. And then we're going to go to Speaker Johnson and the fact that Elon used to return his calls. He's not now. Here it is. With us once again here on the Hill, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, Republican from Georgia, thanks for being back with us, Congresswoman. You say in full transparency you didn't know that this was in there, and now you're shining a light on it.

How did you not know that it was in there, and how did you find out about it? Well, we don't get the full bill text until very close to the time to vote for it. And so that was one section, that was two pages that I didn't see. and I'm being very transparent and honest about it with everyone, but I find it so problematic that I'm willing to come forward and admit that those are two pages that I didn't read, because I never want to see a situation where state rights are stripped away. And that's exactly what it says in that bill text,

that it would take away state's rights to regulate or make laws against AI for 10 years. And I think that's pretty terrifying. We don't know what AI is going to be capable of within one year. We don't know what it will be capable of in five years, let alone 10 years. And I think we have to protect states' rights to be able to regulate and make laws that they need to make for their states. Very well said by her. She goes on, the full clips of Reloakshone's on Accidentfulwors.com. Yeah, let's tie humans' hands and then just turn this thing completely loose with no checks and balances other than the federal government,

which half the federal government wouldn't respond to Elon's email about who's your boss and what's five things you did last week. This is a runaway train. This is insane. This very same insane bureaucracy is trying to start a nuclear war with the Russians. Here is Speaker Mike Johnson on trying to call Elon who criticized him yesterday and getting our response. You talked to Elon on Monday who made this 180. What do you think changed? Why do you think he's coming out against the same?

Now, and have you spoken to the president and Elon since the amendment. Well, I tell you, I called Elon last night, and he didn't answer. But I hope to talk to him today. I mean, it's not, you know, it's very friendly, and we've laughed about our differences on policy before. I'm not upset about this. And I just, I think he understands, and he's acknowledged him before, that this is so serious that we can't fool around with it. I mean, the debt cliff is approaching very quickly, right? all the things that are in this bill are so important for the U.S. economy.

It's going to be jet fuel for the U.S. economy. All boats are going to rise. And the sooner we do that, the better, and the risk of not getting it done is enormous, not just for the Republican Party, but for the country. We've got to do this. We're going to have the largest tax increase in U.S. history at the end of the year if we fail, and all the other calamities that we've talked about. So we've got to get it done, and I think Elon understands the way to that,

and I hope he comes around. I'd love to talk to him this week and hope he calls him back today. The problem is it's got the AI tyranny in it, the medical experimentation tyranny in it, so that has to be pulled to the bill last to die. I get we've got to supercharges the economy and innovate out of this.

And Trump's making the right moves on tariffs and ending our capitulation to the global system. And he's done a good job on the border. But when it comes to the pork barrel in here, Stephen Miller's like, well, we got to cut, do those cuts and other bills. Yeah, but there's a bunch of

added spending in this. So that's, I don't call it deceptive, but it's somewhat of a slight of hand. So overall, Elon's right in my view. And the whole thing's bad because of those provisions I just mentioned. We're going to talk to William F. Jasper, the president of the John Burns Society, to enter the New American Magazine

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And I also want to get into the escalating summer of rage that wasn't hard to predict that we're now witnessing. you have Soros in the left funding all these anti-Israel protesters and that's all just a dialectic and problem and action solution and now you have attacks on ICE agents all over the country multiple times daily huge mobs of people and now when other feds are out doing raids now finally on the missing children like in Minneapolis yesterday huge crowds come out and start physically attacking them.

And then when they throw flashbangs, the media cuts there and says, oh, look, they're throwing flashbangs for no reason. No people are throwing bottles at them, attacking them. They got run out of neighborhoods of illegal aliens and drug smugglers and human traffickers in San Diego by crowds of people two days ago. You have Congress people and mayors getting arrested, attacking.

We've got city council women physically attacking ice video yesterday, and they didn't even arrest her. And then you've got Hakeem Jeffries, and we'll get to this later. I just want to set the table here. I want to do that first at the bottom of the hour before we go to South Africa because it's the same program, the same terms, just different racial and ethnic and cultural and religious groups they're using for the divide and conquer strategies. the great gain that all empires use. And so it's building, as they said they would, to try to have a civil war this summer.

I don't see it being successful. But they've said Trump and Tom Homan are going to kill migrants. They're going to use the military since he was president-elect. Carville. He's coming to kill him. We've got to rise up. The view. He's killing people.

We need to be ready to fight and die. That's the talking point everywhere. Well, what's the last ingredient? a false flag like Oklahoma City with a truck bomb or machine gun with a so-called Trump supporter who gets killed conveniently like crooks in Pennsylvania, dead men tell no tales, and then now they can riot, burn the country down, and the dream is drive Trump for power. You saw the movie they produced years ago that came out last year, Civil War, that is a dress rehearsal for this.

And then we have the Podesta War Games from when they thought Trump was going to win, but they overwrote it with fraud in 2020, and Podesta said, we're going to succeed, blue cities and states, we're going to have a civil war. Then they said right before this election, if he wins, we're going to do this again.

But first, they need to crash the economy, as they said they want, and they're trying to do with Moody's and the rest of it to get us to this point and the Federal Reserve, not lowering interest rates.

I'm kind of going into it now. And so, you know what, let's just do that now. And then let's just do South Africa after that. do it now. And then we'll do Doge, the BBB fight, the World War III scenario. Trump's main challenges is one of the best brains out there.

William F. Jasper. And folks, if you look at what the John Burr's Society set up over 60 years ago, said, wrote, and did, it has been the most accurate, dead-on organization, and really the roadmap of the global resistance we have now. And, of course, profits are never known

in their own country. And, you And it's not even about the credit. It's just invaluable. You can read stuff they wrote 50 years ago, and it's just as important or more important now because we're living it. And so we're just really honored to have William F. Jasper from the new American. com with us. You should also follow them on X.

But let's just go ahead and plunge into this now. I always like to show evidence of what I said. So after you speak to what you believe, I just said, you think it's accurate. What would you add to it? and then how South Africa is kind of been the model of what they're trying to do here that will actually show some of those clips that I just mentioned. But great to have you here.

Well, thank you, Alex. Thanks for having me back on again. A pleasure being here with you. No, you summarize things very well. You put it out there. We are faced with a conjured up civil war, which could still come about, you see all the chaos that is being fomented in our streets all across the country. This is happening because we got a little glimpse of how that is possible with some of the Doge

information that came out from U.S.A., showing that hundreds, actually thousands of NGOs, activist groups, non-governmental organizations, are getting governmental funds. taxpayer dollars. And that's how these astroturf phony grassroots organizations are able to mobilize thousands, tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of people across the country. These are not grassroots activist organizations. They're top-down funded rent-a-mobs, and that's what we're seeing all across the country. And not just on the immigration front, Now, that's what's taking front center right now. But on the environmental front, on the LGBTQ militant front,

any time a hot button issue comes up, you can depend on thousands of these individuals to show up. They are being funded by taxpayer dollars and by the tax-exempt foundation. So you have Ford, Rockefeller, Carnegie, MacArthur, There are literally now Soros hundreds of foundations that are indirectly financing these with our tax dollars because they're tax exempt. They're not paying the taxes, so they're able to put that money into destroying this country. And by the way, you've been talking about this, your own career there for 30 plus years, the numbers 30 40. But now we have even more documents. And remember, it came out a few months ago.

We have the geolocation that anybody can buy now, and the Republican Party's done it. the White House has done it, independent groups have done it. Upwards of 90% of these renamobbs at the AOC and Bernie Sanders and Black Lives Matter and Palestinian events and pro-Ele-Lelian events are the same people traveling all over the country, just like we saw more than half the people at the DNC were paid thousands a day as influencers to be there. They literally are a synthetic astroturf by the very definition. Absolutely. And in fact, over and over again, we have shown where whole busloads of them are being not just caravan busloads of these demonstrators, protesters are being brought in.

And not only for demonstrations, but we've seen it all across the country where there have been referendums and initiatives. The paid signature gathers out there, they're being paid by the same AstroTurf organizations, the network. works of NGOs that are funded by our tax dollars and by the tax-exempt foundations. And so if we defund the left, just take away their government aid, that would solve a lot of our problems. We wouldn't have all these people out there. They'd have to go out and earn a living some other way. And of course, that would tie into what Elon's trying to do with Doge, but that's a whole

other subject we'll get to at the bottom of the hour. What would you do if you were the Trump administration as they ramp up deportation, which was dismantled? Overall, they're doing a great job when you actually know the facts. If you disagree, tell me. But what do you do when every major Democrat pundit is calling for violence, doxing people, Hakeem Jeffrey's Democrat leader, vows to unmask and reveal identities of ICE agents already facing death threats? you have U.S. immigration officers ordered to arrest even more people, and that's, you know, pissing everybody the left off. Fed agent action in Minneapolis, this is in the chaos.

This crowd tries to stop it thinking it's ice, and it was a human trafficking operation, literally finding kidnapped children that's now come out. And here's a mob trying to stop federal marshals, FBI, and others from literally trying to save children, something Tom Homan's been fighting to do that these Soros cities literally block them in trying to do. I mean, you talk about the ultimate 80-20. This is like a 95-5 issue, literally defending the human smugglers now.

Yeah, I mean, it's incredible. And so we have judges, we have attorneys, we have city councilmen, county commissioners, all of the blue state operatives, all of the far-left Democratic operatives, doing everything possible to make America ungovernable. And this is what you see in every communist revolution,

whether it's in Nicaragua, South Africa, Venezuela. In order to get control, they have to first make the government ungovernable, make the country ungovernable. And then they already have their agents in place. They increase the centralization of power. and that's the plan. They want to first stop all of the deportations. They brought in 10, maybe 15 million or more illegals during the Biden four years.

And there were already millions here illegally. And for the past, well, I did my expose documentary out of control of the immigration invasion on the border almost 40 years ago. I was the first journalist to go along the whole southern border, and I interviewed Border Patrol, Customs, also illegal aliens and smugglers. And it was very clear back then, because along the border, there were a number of these refugee resettlement camps back then. These were manned by people funded by the tax-exempt foundations, with representation from the ACLU and the National Lawyers Guild, the NLG.

These are communist lawyers and liberal leftist lawyers, whose purpose is to assist those who are breaking the law to make this country ungovernable. And just going back before Ron Paul, before Lou Dobbs, before Alex Jones, you literally, filmmaker, writer, author, all of, I mean, I remember your films, you made so many that were just instrumental. you first, and it's not about credit, this is true, literally raised the alarm that it was a UN globalist replacement migration, cultural takeover for a coming communist style takeover in America, and now we're here. And now we're here. And so people have to realize that these networks weren't built overnight,

and they have penetrated into all layers of our government and most of our institutions. And so this is going to be an ongoing colossal task to unwind this. And the Trump administration cannot do it all by itself. President Trump is fighting. He has all these ACLU lawyers. I used to go undercover in the Communist Party, USA, the Revolutionary Communist Party, the Socialist Workers Party, the ACLU, the National Lawyers Guild, and attended many of their meetings.

and there were many judges and public defenders and public prosecutors, people in the legal system, who were completely hooked into these networks. And that was decades ago. And so by now, many of them who are judges and the attorneys that are out there know who these judges are. That's how they can shop around in their lawfare and say, oh, we need to get this case before this judge. and we know that the judge will help us. In fact, as we've seen in a couple of cases, the judges actually helped the fugitive, refugees, illegals, escape from the courthouse. So that's what we're dealing.

We're dealing with people who have infiltrated all levels of our government and who intend to take it down. Totally. And I want to be clear for people, because there's a lot of it. lot of Johnnycom lately's that have gotten into the populist, common sense, anti-globalist Americana reboot. And so we have literally the leader of the original, you know, OG here. It's just a fact. And I'm not mad at the Johnny Come Lately's.

Part of us winning is more people are waking up and getting shows and popular. It's great. But it's a grift to take everything Trump does and claim he has a magic wand and bitch and complain about it. When Trump does wrong, we're all over it, like the stuff in this BBB bill. but I know the board patrol. I know the sources. I watch it. I know how many people they've got.

They are working 18 hours a day. They've conscripted everybody out of the other agencies, the ATF, almost 80% of them, the federal marshals. They are. They've been threatened. It's come out to be fired if they don't have quotas. This is an emergency that was done lawlessly against it. It's constitutional what Trump's doing. And then everywhere they go, they're facing escalating attacks.

And Soros judges and Soros DAs and NGOs and Soros radio stations. that are locally directing mobs saying they're here. ICE is on this corner. Everyone go there. And it's only a matter of, you have federal agents blowing the whistle to the NGOs about when these raids of TDA and MS-13. So this is racketeering.

I'm all for free speech. But if I was talking to secret federal agents about warrants that are about to be sent and that I'm calling in to the producer at the radio station saying get everybody ready, it's about to happen. And then they send a mob there. That is coordinated obstruction of justice. I mean, this is military operations, and it's escalating.

And they intend to get big conversations of the streets, as I predicted six months ago. And then they're going to, like I said, they're going to shoot up the illegal aliens and blame it on Trump supporter. It's all been pre-programmed, Bill. Yeah, you summarize it very well. This has been set up. We are being pushed into a maelstrom that they have created. And you touched on something that's very important, and that is that, We still have an enormous number of agents of the deep state in the Justice Department in all of the federal agencies, still in the FBI's, in the ATF, in all of the federal law enforcement.

Obviously, some of them are giving information to their comrades in the media, who are then passing it on to all of the different activist groups so that they can organize and, bring together all of the forces when the customs or the To obstruct catching human traffickers, sex, slavery of children, fentanyl, drug dealers. That is obstruction of justice. Absolutely. It's conspiracy. And they should be prosecuted. They should be in jail.

And those leakers in the government who are giving this information out are guilty of that. They should be prosecuted. And hopefully they will be. Yeah, we heard from Van Bondi three months ago that they knew who they were and were going to indict them, but it hadn't happened. Yeah. Well, we have to see some of them. They have to clean the people out of there whom they can identify. And those that they haven't been able to identify that are still doing leaking,

they've got to put the resources on that to stop the leaks. Because otherwise, we're going to continue to see these incidents happening all across. the country. Absolutely. Let me play a clips as I mentioned it. Here's Akeem Jeffries yesterday saying we're going to docks the ICE agents. So this is now Congress joining with the Soros mob with the NGOs, literally sicking the public on ice agents with judge orders doing constitutional duties going after fentanyl, kidnapped children, and this is his response. Every single ice agent.

who's engaged in this aggressive overreach and are trying to hide their identities from the American people will be unsuccessful in doing that. This is America. So not the Soviet Union. We're not behind the Iron Curtain. This is not the 1930s.

And every single one of them, no matter what it takes, no matter how long it takes, will, of course, be identified. That, in fact, is the law. and we're going to make sure that the American people have the transparency necessary

to hold people accountable when there are folks who cross the line here in America that's what's going to happen and as I mentioned earlier and I spoke to Congressman Nadler so they go on from there

and so let's be clear the communist people put you into a totalitarian movement. They illegally bring in tens of millions of people. They disappear them. And then they create a lawless situation. Then Trump has emergency powers for an invasion. That's what this is. And then

they try to misrepresent it and act like they're a bunch of tyrants and then openly are going to docks them. But this is not selling on the American people. William. Well, it's so rich him saying this is not the Soviet

Union. That's what they are trying to turn this into. I mean, here you have all of those on the left who were the sycophants for the Soviet Union for Russia up until 2014, and who have been

total sycophants for Beijing, communist China. And now he's pulling that we're not the this isn't the Soviet Union now. So yeah, this is a hypocrisy that we're facing out. It's like Nancy

Pelosi who has done the same thing. These folks have for the last several years been doxing and encouraging violence against MAGA, against conservatives, against Republicans. Tesla. Against elected officials against the Supreme Court. And now all of a sudden they are proclaiming that we have to dox the, those who are enforcing our law. Clearly, and they admit this, they're trying to have an explosion this summer.

You said earlier, you're not sure if they'll be successful. They're definitely trying, but I just don't see it working. Even if they stage a false flag against a bunch of illegal aliens, I don't see the public buying it, that some MAGA supporters are going to go machine down to much of these people. Well, we've seen it before. They pulled out false flags before, and hopefully we're still going to see something with regards.

regard to the pipe bombs in Washington, D.C. and some of the other things on January 6th, we were told we were going to get the information on that. The FBI still hasn't turned over that to us. I'm not giving up on that, but I think we're very likely to see some more false flag operations. We have Southern Poverty Law Center and many of the other so-called groups against extremism that have been just keep pumping this. They do it to all of the left-wing media trying to hype people up for it. And so that's... And then we find out the Southern Barberia Law Center has involved running

white supremac compounds like Elohim City. Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean... And at that time, they were working very closely with the FBI. And we've... We're still uncovering a lot of information on that that's coming out showing that, yes, indeed. We did have, the FBI did have agents in Elohim City, in the Aryan Republican Army, in the Midwest bank robbers, all of these groups that were tied into the Oklahoma City bombing. Incredible.

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We now take you live. We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center and the heart of the resistance. Rallying Patriots worldwide. You're listening to the Alex Jones show. Next hour, I'm debating an Australian war correspondent who's been in Ukraine quite a bit. You think I'm a Russian puppet because I don't want nuclear war. We'll talk about some of that with William F. Jasper. I don't think he's might accuse of being a Russian puppet.

But I probably will. Maybe he's not for total war for the neocons and the left. but there's so much to unpack here and it's all integrated together. I want to get into South Africa as really the model of what we're seeing with the left here and in Europe. But you've really, and the John Bird Society was the first to focus on the proto-globalist, the powerful elites, the Rockefeller combine, going in, helping Mount St. Tongue get into power, sabotaging Shankai Sheck, the nationalist at 49, and then backing Mao during the cultural, revolution, great leap forward, and tens of millions people have killed. And then by the 80s,

a big mistake of Reagan, it was behind the scene stuff, policy, setting up China to be dominant than the China double-crossing the globalists in the last 15 years, that big split. They've still got all their agents and operatives here. Not to the simple trading the Democratic Party,

that's predominant, but also the Republican Party, Mitch McConnell, and others are great examples of that and his wife. But we see Russia being attacked in the sneak attack that Trump now says they didn't know about, as I predicted, to try to derail the peace talks, completely obvious, attacking their strategic nuclear bombers as part of their triad.

And just in a precedent escalation, people say, oh, look, Russia is wide open. Well, in my view, for being able to be infiltrated, Russia is at two on a scale of one to ten. We're about 11. So we look at their weakness being infiltrated with people smuggling drones and attacking these air bases up to 4,000 miles away from Kiev in Ukraine.

imagine what the Chicom sleeper cells are and how you go to any of these bio labs or university labs. It's just basically half of them are chikoms. They admit these people are communist Chinese party members. That means you are an agent under Chinese communist law. Anybody that's a national here has to report back to them and be an agent. This guy looks like military. She's probably the handler.

They're probably not even boyfriend and girlfriend. I'm sure she's been doing some operative work, though, with the administrative staff because that's their specialty. is the honey put. And so they need to understand that. University's definitely compromised. I mean, they all are. But this is just the tip of the iceberg here.

And I know you're a super expert on communist China and it's unprecedented infiltration. Before we segue to South Africa, then into Doge and the BBB fight and more, William, what is your expert take on this situation with this clearly very, very dangerous mold? And that they had a whole bunch of samples. He was able to get through of other nasties to her up in her little bio lab, university. I mean, this is amazing. Well, before I jump into that, let me just segue real quickly because it's related to it.

But right now, on the new American.com, we have a live feed to the trial of the century, Shara versus Ascension Health. That's taking place in Appleton, Wisconsin. That is the case of Grace Shara, the 19-year-old Down syndrome girl who was killed by the hospital against the parents' wishes. They wouldn't allow, they did all these interventions without the parents' wishes.

We've been covering it. Now it has become a huge trial. This could be the first one in the COVID vaccine deaths. And this is very important. We're live streaming it. We're the live stream that is going on. at children's health defense. So if you want to see what's happening in the trial today, it started yesterday, this is going to be a really groundbreaking, important thing. Because

the Wuhan attack that we received, that was part of this whole deep state work with China. So you did a great job of summarizing what happened in China. China became communist because communists in our own state department, in our own government, sabotaged Shanghai Sheck, and guaranteed that the communist Mao Zetong, Joe and Lai Chutei, and the rest of their communist butchers would take over China. And they did that contrary to all of the warnings of General Patrick Hurley, of General MacArthur, of many other patriots, in the American government and in the American military who were saying, wait a second, the communists are not our friends. But we had all the Alger Hisses and the Harry Dexter Whites and the Virginiaus Franco,

John and Carter Vincent, all these Soviet agents in our government who were telling us that no, Mao is the good guy. They turned over China to Mao Zetong shortly thereafter. That was in 1949. Two years later, they turned over Korea to the communists. And just a few years after that, well, starting in 1954, started turning over Vietnam and all Southeast Asia to the communists. And by 1975, of course, all of Southeast Asia, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, all went into the communist hands. And the reason you're such an expert is that the John Burr Society and your whole society is, it's an interesting factoid. Welsh, the founder, John Welsh, literally with his other patriots and generals and people,

understood this and understood how serious it was, you know, even beyond what was understood by Joseph McCarthy and said, we got to do something about this. And so John Burge Society's named after John Burge, who was an American patriot who got killed over there trying to expose us. Yes, so John Birch was an American mirror. Baptist missionary in China at the time when Japan invaded China. And then after Pearl Harbor, after we'd been attacked, he volunteered to be in the military. He was an army captain. Then he was working with the OSS, which was the forerunner to the CIA at that time, working behind enemy lines.

He was the one who rescued our pilots. Jimmy Doolittle and others who were downed over China. And at the end of the war, he realized what was happening that the communists were our enemies. And he was killed by, murdered by the communists because of that. So the society is named after him. He is a great American patriot that until Robert Welch founded the John Bert Society, most Americans have never heard of. Well, we were all thankful for him and Robert Welsh and everybody else. Just amazing history most people don't know about.

So to get back to what you were talking about, the bio labs, this just touches just the very edge of the whole problem here. We have thousands of tens of thousands of Chinese researchers and students here in our major research universities. in our major weapons labs, in our hospitals, and in our tank tanks all across the country. And almost every day, as I'm going through, whether it's the Brookings Institution or the Council on Foreign Relations or the World Economic Forum or whatnot, you see how these globalist elitists are merging, converging, they call it convergence, converging the United States and all of the rest of the non-communist world. with the communist world, bringing top Chinese and prior to a few years ago, Russians into all of our major institutions. And we now see over the last several years, particularly in Canada and much of Europe, where the Chinese communist agents are actually getting very aggressive and attacking those Chinese communist agents. Chinese who are here, who are opposing them, and even the native citizens of those countries. And they're even setting up in Europe, Canada, the U.S., their own police stations.

Absolutely. So, right. So just in the last two years, that has been exposed, particularly the one that came, that got attention, was in New York City, where the police station, communist police station, was set up there. And it was, I mean, this is incredible. like we would set up a police station in another country without permission or knowledge of a And remember when Trump and his last year in his first administration, they raided the big embassy in Houston and the Chinese were burning everything inside of it. I mean, this is out of control. Yeah.

So this is where the FBI really needs to be focused on. These are the things. Yes, violent crime is an issue. But that's primarily, unless it is being done by foreign agents and it's being done by illegal aliens who are a federal government concern, violent crime can be handled by our local police. You get the federal agents out of there and the federal funding of the rioters and the protesters, and local police can and should take care of it. We don't need a national police force for that. What we do need the FBI on is all of these, particularly Chinese now, the Congressional Committee, the House Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, has released a number of reports showing all of these Chinese corporations that have been listed here in the United States now that are operating freely.

And they're buying farmland all around critical military infrastructure. Absolutely. And not only the farmland around military, but they have been targeting those businesses and those sectors of the economy that they know they can have the biggest leverage on so that it makes it difficult for people in a congressional district to go against a particular enterprise if they're dependent on it for jobs. Incredible. This is economic. This is financial warfare. economic warfare. It's a social, political, economic, and military war that's going on. And the globalist left wants us to focus on Russia, as General Flynn has warned for decades, instead of on China. Give us a quick synopsis. I want to get into South Africa. You sent me a lot of information on that. Then I want to hit Doge and the BBB fight and Musk quickly. We've got to get you back again soon.

We'll have Chasper, President John Birch Society editor of the New American Magazine. looking at what we've seen recently in Russia, the Pearl Harbor attacks, the attempts of below the curse bridge, I knew Trump wasn't being right into that. Now that's confirmed. Now Trump's understanding that was sabotaged. Where do you see that going? Well, it's not going anywhere good right now, particularly when you have people like Lindsay Graham over there fomenting confusion and encouraging.

Ukraine with the idea that we're going to supply him with unlimited amounts of money. So I have a different take on it. We have a different take than many other people who see Vladimir Putin as an ally or potential ally, or see him and Xi Jinping as some kind of counter forces that we should be playing against each other. I don't see that at all. You know, just three weeks ago, Xi Jinping was in Moscow for Victory Day. He was there for three or four days, four days, I believe, during which he and Putin signed a number of other new agreements.

This has been going on for several decades. Well, yeah, that's why attacking Russia only drives them closer to China. We should promote the China-Russia split, which is good U.S. policy. Right. I mean, genuine China-Russia split. The way it's been played by our foreign policy establishment, the globalists for years, is that, oh, we've got to give more trade to China, and that will help bring them over to our side and we'll split them off from Russia. And at the same time, going clear back to, while the Vietnam War was on,

while American military people were being killed, American soldiers, Marines, airmen were being killed in Vietnam. we were providing Vietnam via Russia because we were, Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger signed a bunch of trade deals with Russia. This was part of peaceful trade. And all of that trade as... Sure, absolutely. The globalist played us on a supposed China-Russia split. I'm saying Flynn and others have proposed a real one.

Russia has been at least becoming more Christian, more anti-globalist, and I think that's a real thing on the ground. I'm not saying it's reformed. But, I mean, is it possible, in your view, to actually get Russia, you know, if we get a peace deal to move away from China? No. If you follow what they've been doing, no. I mean, they are so close.

And here's the thing where I disagree with many of the others who see these so-called reforms going on in Russia. everything indicates that Vladimir Putin, who is a lifelong KGB, he was young pioneers from the time of his childhood through youth and all of his career, he's always been a Soviet communist. And we just saw just a couple of weeks ago he renamed the colony airport as Colonnagrad airport for Stalin. And he's re-positioned Felix Zersinski, the head of the Cheka, the KGB.

So he's not a neo-Zarist like Alexander. No. No. He is not. He is still. And look, all of the people that he has brought forward in the Institute of the USA and Canada, That was a, it's called the Arbitov Institute, Jari Arbatov. He has kept all of that going, all since the so-called collapse of the Soviet Union.

All of those KGB agents who particularly target the United States and Canada, that transition continued. There was no... But, I mean, it is good to get NATO to stop encircling Russia. Excuse me? What do you think about the NATO encirclement of Russia, though? I mean, clearly the EU... Let's just say for the sake of argument, Putin is not the same year. I get that.

What I'm saying is the EU is openly satanic, openly totalitarian, openly trying to censor and control us, and openly trying to start nuclear war. So I see the EU and China, you know, when it comes to economics, having more of an alliance than China and Russia have militarily. No, I don't think you can say that. I mean, the EU and China definitely are a problem for us. But China and Russia, militarily, economically, financially, trade-wise, culturally, everything, they are very closely knit together. But the point you make about encircling Russia with NATO is certainly a provocation. And I believe that's part of the whole globalist thing to keep the near-brose.

brink of war threat alive. Now, that's playing very dangerously because it could go over the brink and actually become nuclear war. But if you're pushing for world government, as the State Department document, world effectively controlled by the United Nations... You need the ongoing threat of nuclear war to keep the U.S. strong. Right. Once we get scared enough about nuclear war, then, okay, we have to have some kind of institution that's going to stand in the gap that's going to change that. That's going to be the United Nations.

That's what they've been saying for the last seven years. And that's the whole British Empire, Rothschild Rockefeller, League of Nations 2.0. How would you quantify Trump as just a neo-pro-American populist? He's certainly been, quote, radicalized into reality, but I wonder how deep that goes. Well, that's been the big question. And certainly, I've said before probably on your program, in my lifetime, in our lifetime, I'm now in my 70s. I've never seen anyone in the high office, highest offices of any country take on the globalists and the communists like he had. And so on many different levels, I mean, just earlier this year at the United Nations, he announced that we were against the agenda

2030 against sustainable development goals, pulled us out of the World Health Organization, pulled us out of UNESCO, pulled us out of the Paris Agreement. What we really need to do is pull completely out of the United Nations.

Now, he has even taken on NATO, and a lot of conservatives think that NATO is a great thing. We've been pointing out for many years that actually NATO, which gives us the impression. It's the UN standing army as you exposed 50 years ago

show. It is. It is. And a lot of conservatives think that it's our ballwork against communism. It is not. It has been a way for the globalists to actually control all of the other countries because they're dependent on U.S. cats. But you've got competing

communist neo-transhumanist groups. I think the reason globalism is so much trouble is not only it's in a pop when we've exposed it. But it's supposed to work together, but you've got all these different criminal factions using the same philosophy, but fighting with each other more and more. And I think they even admit their problem is coordination. Yeah, and that's even with all of the coordinating facilities that they've put up in the last several decades, from the trilateral commission, Bilderberg, Aspen Institute, the Madrid Foundation, the Club of Rome, all of these different groups,

where the elites can get together, the world economic forum, and try to knit their schemes together. It's just like the mafia or the drug cartels. They all have the same objective, but they're all greedy for power. And so there are definitely differences between them as to who is going to do. It's like Rome and its decline with all the intrigue in the Senate. We're running out of time. There's so much you wanted to get into. Maybe she should come back on the South Africa thing

and a whole hour on that. But let's talk about Elon, the BBB bill, what's in it, where you see all that going, Elon saying it's a disgusting abomination. I mean, it's got a lot of good in it, but it's got a lot of disgusting stuff in it as well. Where do you see that going? Well, look, we're spending ourselves into oblivion. And that is one of the biggest problem. You can't have a strong country.

You can't have a strong military. you can't have a strong resistance to foreign enemies if you're destroying yourself internally. And that's what this is doing. I mean, we're destroying private enterprise with all of our taxes and regulations. We're destroying the family because it's getting harder and harder for families to stay together with this. Spending has to decrease. You remember back, what was it, 40 years ago, when we, had the Grace Commission. William Grace came forward with the, it was like the first Doge to examine

where we needed to cut. And this is during the Reagan administration and we were going to make all these cuts. It never happened. So somebody has to get serious here and in the Senate, they're going to have to do some serious cutting. We can't have trillion dollar debts piling on top of trillion dollar debts and expect to survive. And so, And that means within the Defense Department, there's a lot of waste, a lot of misspending going on there always has been. The Black Ops, we still haven't had, I was hoping, one of the targets of Doge would be an audit of the CIA and of the Federal Reserve. Those are two of the most important things to get an audit of. I totally agree.

And now they're not even going to fire any by it the CIA. and all my big sources, Bannon and others say the new director looks really bad. So Trump had a lot of momentum, but it's starting to slow. And look at this. Whatever happened to President Trump's plan to inspect the gold at Fort Knox? What do you even call for that forever, William? What's happening there? Yeah, again, we hear something is going to happen,

and we get excited about it because this has never happened before. And then it kind of peters out. And so it's pretty clear that, there is a lot of resistance, deep state and bureaucracy that's been there for a long time. These things are going to be sabotaged. And there are some people that think, and I'm not one of them, that think that Trump is just putting on a show, that he really isn't trying to do anything. Oh, I can tell you behind the scenes, as I know. I know I'm real.

I know you're real. I know you're under attack. I know Trump's under real attack. No, Trump's for real. he's not perfect in his action. None of us are, but no, he's real. Yeah, I mean, he has a Herculane task to do, and he can't do it alone. We have to do it. We have to put the backbone into the jellyfish in Congress whose real job it is to cut the spending to make sense. But we are getting way more progress now in just a few years than we got in decades before.

So it's a paradox, but we need to thank God for this and know that politics is downstream from, the grassroots and it's the grassroots actions of things with you today imagine the ripple effects of the future the things you guys did 60 years ago look at it now wouldn't be here without you william f jasper come back come back next week and talk about this big trial the murdered down syndrome child and we'll get into south abrogate let's do 30 minutes on the big trial people can go see at the john birch society website at the new american site right now on your ex as well and we'll talk to you again soon william jasper thank you so much Thank you, Al.

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like any other attack. We will be ready with serious political, economic, and military. military responses. They're voting for peace on planet Earth if they vote for Trump. But if they vote for Hillary, it's war. We came, we saw, he died.

With her, you'll end up in World War III. I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran. Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia.

The U.S. military has just raised the threat level to DefCon 2. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is still threatening Russia with military action following unconfirmed reports of further hacking. It's like she's not even concerned about the repercussions. Of course not, because she's... There's a really loud noise. All right, it looks like we're having a little bit of technical difficulties.

We'll try to get Leanne back on in a few minutes. When the president gives the order, it must be followed. For most of the hour, I'm going to have a discussion to debate with Drew Pavlou. He is a political activist. This is his bio-sendous human rights advocate research clerk, education University of Queensland. And he is an Australian political activist. And he spent a lot of time in Ukraine recently covering the war there up at the front lines. He's a very interesting footage of that.

And he's been featured on 60 Minutes. and a lot of the programs. He's on X at Drew Pavlou, P-A-V-L-U, Facebook, and everywhere else. I wanted to get him on because I just saw a post with millions of views saying Alex Jones almost brought to tears over strikes inside Russia. And of course, that's not true. The sun's setting the suns in my eyes. But whatever, it's funny.

I am, I guess, almost brought to spiritual tears over. the 1990, 1991, New World Order attack on Iraq, the setup, the 2003, USAID funding al-Qaeda, ISIS, the overthrow of Syria in December and January, now turning it over to al-Qaeda, the mass murder of Christians and Aloites. I've always been anti-globalist war, and that's why I'm against, and we can show the maps here, let's just show a time lapse if we can, of NATO, expanding since the fall of the Soviet Union, 1991, all around Russia, and moving ground-following hypersonic missiles up to the border with Russia, and then firing conventional-tipped, attack them's and storm shadows, and now Tauruses that are designed to have nukes on them, so the Russians don't know what's on the tips of them. Putin said last year,

he said if we see a large aeronautical assault to these missiles, instead of just a few a day coming into Russia, we'll have to think it's a nuclear sneak attack, because that's in our doctrine and their doctrine. We would never put up with this. And now you've got their strategic big bear bombers being hit as far as 4,000 miles away

from Kharkiv in eastern Ukraine, all the way over by Japan, and up by the Arctic Circle, that's the Russian nuclear trident or trifecta

and we have the same strategic policy and that's a message from NATO we won a nuclear war which you got Sean Penn and the rest of them is saying a nuclear war is survivable

it should be on the table that is madness so let's get this straight I don't work for Russia Trump doesn't work for Russia Trump doesn't work for Russia Trump doesn't work for Iran. I don't work for Iran.

All the war games show a major Israeli strike on Iran will lead to them firing over 10,000 ballistic missiles at Israel, flattening their three major cities. Israel will then nuke Iran, and in most war games, Indian Pakistan have a nuclear war. Okay? So I am not even anti-Israel. You know that's super popular right now. I'm anti-Israel bringing us into nuclear war. So I don't work for Iran. I don't work for North Korea when Trump got a peace till North Korea.

I don't want a nuclear war. I don't like North Korea. I don't like Kim Jong-un. But if it can be reform, that'd be great. I don't like the communist Chinese. I don't want a nuclear war with them. I've said if they take Taiwan, we should stay out of it. Because it traditionally was part of China.

And I hate the communist Chinese, and they oppress their people. Now, they move into Vietnam, which they're trying to do, and move into the Philippines. We should defend the Philippines. And they've been stealing their... I mean, China's out of control. But I understand almost all the war game scenarios, as Xi Jinping has said, they'll go to nuclear war over Taiwan.

And that could be an imminent invasion. So I don't work for communist China because I'm against having a nuclear war with them. If we have to, it's going to happen. But the doomsday clock of the International Atomic Science Association in Chicago has moved the last few months, the doomsday clock, to the closest since they set up

in the 60s, to nuclear war. And the Iran Corporation, all of them say were the highest on the nuclear war threat escalation ladder, one to 43, we've ever been.

We're in the mid-30s. That's why two years ago, Biden said, we can't send Abrams tanks and have 16s. That's World War III. Now I'm going to go to our guests, give him the floor for a while,

and we can go back and forth here. I'll give him, I'll give him that, and I'll come back. But you have to understand that you can go see the Ukrainians who are brave and are fighting hard, and you can get emotional at that level of the grunts on the ground, and say you've got the Russians, the bigger military, you got this military,

and, you know, let's back to Ukrainians, they have been invaded. But then you got NATO and their own policy 15 years ago to overthrow elected governments. Then they start attacking the Russian-controlled areas that are mainly Russian. And World War II, those same battle lines coming back again where most World War II, loss of life was fought in Stalingrad and then in Ukraine. And you've got Victoria Newland bragging about all this. So you have the unelected EU commission saying we have a 30-year war plan to break Russia and then break Russia up in five parts.

You have Zimbibnian-Brasnizzi before he died and come up with all these plans. You have Soros saying I'm the Tsar of Russia. So it's all provocation. We're on their doorstep. And I would be against NATO that now wants to go global, encircling China and pushing him into war. Doesn't mean I support what China's doing. And then you see

Zelensky canceling elections, banning the Orthodox Church, even banning his political opposition. He is a dictator. You can ask corporate media, and they say, well, in his case, he's not. Sure, he's gotten rid of elections. And then you've got the whole Azab Battalion Nazi situation.

And all of that. So I am against this because it's the greatest existential threat. and and and and and and and and and and and Russia it has craminess since 2014 and and Russia is not going to give up those buffer zones they have and Russia wants a deal well they'll never enter NATO and the other three countries like Georgia will not as well and Russia had a public deal in 1991 that NATO would not expand one inch

eastward it did the opposite so the west is the overall aggressor general Kellogg, the head U.S. envoy that we already knew this weekend that this is a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia. The American people are starting to understand that. You have Europe preparing conscription or bringing conscription back, even for women in many

countries. This is out of control. So I'm on team humanity, and I'm against this. Now, Drew Pavlou, on exit, Drew, P-A-V-L-O-U. We've got about 12 minutes to break. I'll give you about eight, nine minutes,

and then I'll come back and respond to what you say. But I've been the same to 31 years. I'm for world peace. That's why I studied geopolitics. And I noticed from your comments, it's all about stuff on the ground and, oh, you saw atrocities, that's war. And I wonder, what do you think about Palestine?

What do you think about Gaza? What do you think about Syria? You care about what's happening there. I'm going to get your overall views on that later. But you've got the floor now. So go ahead. Listen, thank you, Mr. Jones, for having me on. I was surprised that you wanted to have me on, but I thank you for the opportunity.

It's always good to have these sorts of discussions. I know you might think of me as a liberal. You might try and caricatured me as a globalist. I want to quickly introduce myself to your viewers. Listen, I have been one of the loudest and most vocal opponents of the Chinese Communist Party in Australia to the point that I literally had a kidnap, I had a kidnap plot against me by the Chinese government in 2020. in Australia. The Australian

federal police literally inform me of that. They inform the Australian Senate of that fact. So I'm somebody who is fundamentally at my call, somebody who's anti-totelitarian, anti-communist. And my whole question to you is why you are on the side of the Russians, when they are fighting

under Soviet hammer and sickle flags in some of these areas, they are building up Stalin statues. They're building up Lenin statues in the occupied Ukrainian territories. The Ukrainians blow up the Lenin statues. They blow up, the statues of Stalin. Stalin, remember, killed millions upon millions of Ukrainians in a genocide, the Holodomor. They starved millions of Ukrainians to death. The Bolsheviks, this is what they did

to the Ukrainians. This is why fundamentally the Ukrainians do not want to be part of Russia? For me, this is fundamentally a question of, do the Ukrainians have a right to have their own country, had their own national identity to be separate from Russia? If you go to Putin's interview with Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson continued to bring up the point of NATO expansion. He continued to try and direct the conversation towards NATO expansion. And if you watch that interview, which I watched three or four times, Putin, over and over and over again, kept on steering the conversation away from NATO expansion and instead talking about a thousand-year-old historic claims to Ukraine,

talking about Ukraine basically being always part of the Russian Empire, saying that the Ukrainian language is basically a fake language, the Ukrainian nation is basically a fake nation, essentially saying that Ukraine is a fake country, it should become part of Russia. And so this is not really just a question of, well, NATO expanded around Russia. It's not really just the question as well of, oh, here are some provinces in the east where there might be some conflict. No, this is fundamentally a case of Putin and the Russian elite, not accepting Ukraine as an independent country. They'll never accept Ukraine as an independent country.

I don't want war, Alex, Mr. Jones. I don't want war. If I had my way, I would have a ceasefire right now down the current lines of control. of course in my heart of hearts I would love to see Ukraine be able to take back the Donbass and Crimea I think these territories are legitimately Ukrainian they're part of the Ukrainian nation but I went to

Ukraine two months ago I know that the people in Ukraine want peace they want peace as well they want a ceasefire I think that they're willing to accept that maybe Ukraine will never legally recognize these as legitimate Russian territory but they're willing to accept right now a de facto a de facto line of control

on the ground freeze the conflict right now I want to ask you Mr Jones, whether you're familiar with the peace proposal that Ukraine brought to the Russians in Istanbul. This is, they are offering right now full and unconditional ceasefire in the sky on land, and that's the city as a necessary background for the peace negotiations. They're asking for the Ukrainian children who have been deported and kidnapped and taken to Russia to be raised as Russians. They're asking for those children to be returned.

I think any human being with a heart would have to say that the Ukrainian children who've been taken from the occupied territories and transferred to Russia and they've disappeared into the Gulloch system that disappeared. People don't know where these kids are. Anybody with a heart should have to say these kids need to be returned as part of a part of peace, a part of a peace proposal, right? Listen, Mr. Jones, I'm not calling for total war against Russia. I don't want nuclear war with Russia. No one in their right mind wants this. What I would like, in my heart of hearts, I'd love to see Russia expelled from Crimea and the Dombas because I think they're Ukrainian territory. But listen, right now, if they could cease, if they could cease fire,

on the current lines of control, I think everybody in Ukraine would take that deal. Even Zelensi would take that deal. The Ukrainians have taken that deal to the Russians. They're saying, we will stop the wall right now. Let's stop the war right now. Let's have no more attacks in the air. Listen, the other day when I called you out, Mr. Jones, this is the reason why. You were upset about the bombers that were blown up by the Ukrainians, the drones.

And fair enough, listen, I understand that the way you explain this, you say that you're wanting to avoid nuclear war, you want to avoid escalation. I understand this. This is the problem though, Mr. Jones. The day before, the day before that attack, the Russians launched the single largest drone strike against, the single largest attack against the Ukraine is an entire three and a half year war. 520 drones were launched against Ukraine. And these are sort of like the Iranian Shahid type drones. Iran is literally sending Russia the weapons. China is sending Russia the weapons. You know, I'm somebody who founded my whole political purpose on opposing the Chinese Communist Party and they're fully backing Russia. They're fully backing Russia.

Russia today is basically a state that defines itself by hating the West. You've had Jugan on your show. Jugan talks about how much he hates the West. Jugan talks about how the West is responsible or colonization and evil in the world. He says that the Anglo-Saxons are the most evil people in the world. They talk about, you've had Solov-Jov on your show. Salov talks about New King. London talks about New King America.

These people really, really hate America. They really, really hate the West. And I would love to have peace right now. I'd love to have peace right now. Let's literally have a ceasefire right now on the current lines of control. Stop all air attacks. Russia, the day before Ukraine hit those bombers, Russia launched 520 missiles against the Ukrainians.

520 missiles against the Ukrainians. Dozens of people in Ukraine were killed. Kids were killed. Now, this was the hypocrisy that I was calling our, Mr. Jones. I just don't understand how it can be fair that you're reserving so much outrage and anger for the Ukrainians when they blow up Russian bomber jets. But I don't see that from you, Mr. Jones, when they are bombing the Ukrainians. I've been there, right?

I was in Ukraine in March. I went to Dobrapilia and the Donbass, just as an independent reporter. Nobody was, I literally could go right up to the, I've seen this on the screen right now. I was filming an apartment complex that got hit by a Russian, Iskanda ballistic missile. I saw all these apartments, apartment after apartment after apartment, charred to a crisp, shrapnel in the walls. People talk about Ukraine as this country that is anti-Christian. the Russian propaganda. In these apartments that were burned to a crisp, I saw orthodox icons in every single apartment, taunted bits with shrapnel and,

and burned to a crisp because of what Russia did. They hit a ballistic missile into this apartment complex. They waited for the firefighters and ambulances to arrive, and then they hit the firefighters and ambulances with a cluster munition strike. And you could see the fragments from the cluster munitions bomblets in the walls everywhere around. And I put this in my video. I filmed this with my own camera. I put it on my YouTube. There's no tricks here, you can see the cluster munition bomblets in every single building surrounding the square, right? Dozens of people were killed. This is what I don't understand.

Why do you not have this outrage? Why do you not have this anger when the Russians do this? And they're doing this every single day. Okay, so let me respond. You can come back. All right. We'll have me back again, too. We're going to come back up the break.

Sure. A lot of nice emotional appeals. Very nice, what you came up with. So let's just go through these one at a time quickly. Oh, they have Victory Day Parade. raids and they're proud of Stalingrad, where over, you know, six, seven million people died. And, oh, my gosh, you know, these are communists. Well, what about the iconography of the Ukrainians and supporting the Nazis when it was the Nazis that invaded Ukraine and much of the battles of World War II?

We had 27 million Russians die in World War II, 24 million Germans. You have the floor. We're on these points now. So what about the standing ovation for the SS officer that actually on record oversaw the killing of 3,000 Jews in one pit? He's well known as the officer there. And they go, he fought Russians in World War II. And they do a five-minute standing ovation. They know who fought the Nazis in World War II.

So there they are. So you want to bring up the iconography of the Russians being proud of themselves in World War II and bringing up some of those icons. Well, then you need to now defend this. Here's the standing ovation. We have here in the chamber today, Ukrainian Canadians, Ukrainian Canadian World Veteran from the Second World War, who fought the Ukrainian independence against the Russians and continues to support the troops today,

even at his age of 98. All right, this goes on for five minutes, but it's on record. Then write your notes, because you'll be able to come back and respond. But we're going to break a minute and a half. You'll come back and respond. Then you say, oh, they use cluster. Bungs. Well, it's on record that NATO started using him

first. You call it Ukraine. Then, you say, do you get the West. No, they hate the neo-liberal, transhumanist West ideology that Americans hate as well and is anti-Christian, antithetically. Use emotions about a bomb building.

And so there's a picture of Jesus on the wall and a bullet hole in it. Putin just shot Jesus. That's emotion. Then you continue you on and the key, we'll go to break and come back and respond all this, so write it down. You said, oh, Putin doubled

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info on infillards.com, or plus show, and Reloogshunds on X. But I want to invite Drew Pavaloo back on to do a whole hour and a half Friday if he can do it or we can do it sometime next week so we can have a larger discussion because there's so many points brought up here. I'd like him to respond back to my response and he can bring up any or bring up any points he wants. But just to talk about them putting back up

Stalin and Lenin statues where they got cut down by the Ukrainian government in eastern Ukraine. Anybody that knows Ukraine history should thank Lenin, Putin is upset about that. That's where Russia started a thousand years ago was in Ukraine in Kiev. On record, Lenin's the one that gave it its own sovereignty and made it its own country and then made it where 40% of Russia's industry and weapons were produced, and where much of World War II after that was fought, and Russians really don't like Lenin. They see Stalin as a liberator from him

and his persecution of Christians and Kulaks and others. So I don't know if you know all that history, you seem like a pretty smart, smart guy. Also, the Ukrainians on record government, the NATO folks, they park everything in these residential areas for that, and you can respond to that if you don't, you know, if you disagree with that. but at a larger point

Ukraine has broken every discussion or peace deal that has been brought up and you didn't if I'd like you to respond to or you can deny it if you want it's on record the cookie monster as I call him

bragged about it Zelensky that they had increased aeronautical attacks with missiles and drones in the month before this and you know to kill the peace deal and now Putin's about to respond

he told Trump that today massively to what just unfolded. And then, of course, there's the issue of hitting their nuclear strategic trident or system. Their three-pronged approach, we have the same doctrine here. And so that's a real concern to me. So I want to believe you, Drew, that you don't want nuclear war. I don't know if you know that in most of the war games that are done, this is leading directly to that.

But you've got the floor for other seven minutes or so to respond to any of that. Thank you, Mrs. Jones. I want to quickly say. I want to go point by point. Firstly, I'm not going to defend the stupid Canadian parliament moment. This was just Trudeau being stupid. This is Trudeau's idiocy. Listen, if we want to talk about the Nazis, we can talk about Rusich, which is a neo-Nazi group with the Russians, fighting for Russia in Ukraine.

Listen, seven million Ukrainians fought Nazi Germany. Zelensi's grandfather fought Nazi Germany. I really take issue with your idea that Lenin created Ukraine. Ukraine is a country with hundreds of years of history. The Ukrainian language has hundreds of years of history. In the time of the SARS, 100 years prior to Lenin, the Russian SARS issued orders, issued laws to try and ban the Ukrainian language because they were saying the Ukrainian language does not exist,

and they had to put forward their own laws. to try and bend the Ukrainian language. This is 100 years prior. A thousand years ago, Slavs are all called Slavs because the Orthodox priest in Ukraine that ended up founding Russia. I mean, you know about that, right?

Yeah, look, of course that, of course modern Russia kind of has its origins sort of in Kiev Rus, but it's a very complex situation because modern Russia was then divided from Kiev Rus by the fact that the Mongol hordes came in for hundreds of years. And then the Moskibites,

they split off for hundreds of years. Liberated Ukraine. sorry, could you say that again? And then it was, yeah, they conquered. And then it was the Moscow tribe of the Slavs that came and liberated. What is Ukraine today later? My point is that Ukraine and Russia, maybe they had a sort of somewhat shared history a thousand years ago, but they diverged for hundreds of years, hundreds of years

because of the influence of the Mongols invading Russia. I mean, Ukraine developed its own identity. Ukraine developed its own language, its own people. And the fundamental question here is, do the Ukrainians want to be part of the Russian Empire? Tell me, Mr. Jones. Would you want to be part of the Russian Empire? I mean, we know what Stalin did to the Ukrainians in the 1930s. I know you were saying, oh, well, the Ukraine should actually be happy for Stalin and Lenin because Lenin created the Ukraine. I didn't say Stalin. Stalin persecuted the Ukrainians. I said Lenin. Yeah, exactly. But do you, exactly. Would you accept, given the massive persecution of the Ukrainians, the Holodom or the genocide of the Ukrainians by the Bolsheviks, would you accept? Of course there is going to be a lot of strong feeling in Ukraine that they don't want to be. Yeah, that's why the Ukrainians saw Hitler as a liberator in World War II.

I never said that. No, no. Seven million Ukrainians fought for the Soviet Union in World War II. So it's very, you can't say that the Ukraine's all saw Hitler as a liberator. I didn't say that. That's just too big a claim. I mean, you take, you know, Freeland, you know, Trudeau's vice vice leader. I mean, her grandfather was one of the head Nazis there.

Listen, there was a tiny faction of Ukrainians that collaborated during World War II. But as I said, Zelensky was asked two years ago about the Azov Italians being their core forces and being Nazis. You said, yes, they live here too. Yes, they are. A big deal. Cookie Monster. Listen, listen, listen, seven million Ukrainians fought for the Soviet Union in World War II. Zelensky's own grandfather fought for the Soviets in World War II.

So what do you say about the Azov Battalians and all their Nazi rituals? Listen, Azov Battalion was incorporated into the Ukrainian military a couple, like many years back. They purged a lot of the more extremist Nazi elements. I don't agree with any far right stuff. But listen, at the end of the day, Russia has, you know, hardcore Nazi elements in its army. They've got the Rusic neo-Nazis in the army. Wagner, which was a massive force before the Priguzin Rebellion, Utkin, one of the lieutenants in that military, had SS tattoos on his collarbones.

So there's this long history of neo-Nazism in the Russian military. And listen, I want to go through. You said, oh, well, you know, Dugan doesn't hate the West. He just hates, you know, the neoliberal, the Neo-New World Order, et cetera. Listen, let me read to you some Dugan quotes. He says, the West is geographical Satan, the Antichrist. He calls Anglos a race of rats. He calls them subalterns that oppress everybody.

He calls the destruction of the rest. West, he actually has a quote once. He said, the West should be cleared out. and Chinese and Tajik's and Kazakh should come in and settle the West to restore, you know, freedom to the West. He says the West is dead land. He praised Robert Serrat. Recently, he's not really. It's all you're reading quotes there.

It sounds like you're just, you're reading like sections. No, no, no, these are literally his quote. You know, I did recently. No, I read this show, right? I didn't see that exactly. He's mainly against, in his book. He's mainly against the New Atlantis in the British Empire and Francis Bacon. Can I ask you a question, right?

Would you accept that in his book that, you know, the manual that was very popular in the Russian military, et cetera. He actually says all of Ukraine, except for Western Ukraine, should be annexed and occupied by Russia. This is what in his book. He says, he says Ukraine should not exist. It's not a legitimate entity. All of Ukraine should be occupied by Russia.

Do you think his, I mean, I read the book. Does that sound like that was part of Russia? My point is, I see that Russian claim. You can argue it both ways. It's mainly a Catholic Orthodox split that's been going on for 1,000 years. But let's just go back here for a minute. Okay, I'm not debating. There's been a beefs on all these sides.

and that Russia's done stuff with the polls and all the rest of it. What I'm saying to you is, is that do you understand everybody else's perspective? We don't want to be in a nuclear war over NATO using these divisions to try to weaken and bring down Russia. And you know the deputy head of the EU Commission said two months ago, we want to use this to bankrupt Russia and break Russia up. Listen, I'm not sure what exact quote or fact check you have on breaking up Russia, apparently that EU quote. But listen, my fundamental thing right. So you don't think Soros said we're going to break up Russia and I'll be the czar of Russia?

No, no, I don't think Soros has anything to do with this, man. Soros's NGOs aren't involved in Ukraine or anything? I think Soros is a very marginal figure. I mean, how many billions of dollars has Russia spent trying to. He's the State Department front. Come on. Come on. I mean, I mean, Soros is all over the place trying to ban free speech. What do you make of the Linsky being a dictator?

Is Zelensky a dictator? I want to ask you, I'm interested. you've got Max Blumenthal on the thing here. Are you aware Max Blumenclanthal is literally a communist? Like, he's a full-blown communist. He's a far-left communist. I'm just interested. Well, you know, it's seen...

There's the clip of the EU foreign policy chief on the commission announces the West's goal is to divide Russia into smaller countries and use this war to bankrupt them. It's what she says. So, will you respond to what she... I'll go. You said you didn't know they said that.

Let's talk about... I'll go and watch that later. I'll tell you what. I'll go and watch that later. Let's do this. We will, hey, find it where it's not Max Blumenthal. I want you to respond to what she'll say. Sure.

Listen, this is, can I, can I say something? I think it's very disingenuous to focus on one European leader's statements when you've got literally statement after statement after statement. Like, for example, have you seen Medvedev? He didn't want to break up Russia? Can I ask you, right? Are you familiar with what Medvedev has been saying? He said, he says, a new idea for Ukraine has emerged from the North Atlantic office.

Ukraine will be able to join NATO if it just gives us. the disputed territories, but the entirety of Ukraine is a disputed territory. This is what Medvedev says. He says the entire Ukrainian identity should be crushed. You've got quotes. Like, are you for, do you know who Gabarov, Gu Barov is, for example? He's the guy who founded the Donets People's Republic puppet puppet statelet in the Dombas. He actually has a quote. This is a beautiful. This is actually a quote he had. He said, we don't care if we have to kill five million Ukraine's or exterminate all of them. Anybody who sees themselves as Ukrainian and not Russia, we will kill. This was his quote, right? This is what the Russian

say. This is what the literally leaders in the Russian military say. I'm not debating. I'm not debating. There's a lot of bad blood. And I know about those quotes. And I know that you have placed a bad cop and plays a good cop. I get all that. What I'm saying to you is Americans don't want to pay $300 billion for this war. And I think

Trump should leave NATO. And if you and others want to be like the Abraham Lincoln Brigades, you know, in Spain fighting the Nazis, but now you're on the side of the Nazi people, then you should go suit up with Lindsey Graham and Liz Cheney and go out there and fight them. Do you understand that? Listen, listen, here's the thing, Alex. Like, for example, the recent attack that Ukraine had in Russia,

where they attacked the strategic bombers with drones, that didn't involve American capabilities. That was all indigenous Ukrainian know-how. I went in, when I went to Ukraine, I saw their drones. So the US giving them $300 million. Hold on. You're saying Ukraine doesn't need our money then. Oh, look, look, I'd prefer, I'd prefer if all. I, I'd prefer. I, I, I, I, I think there should be an international coalition with, you know, Europe should take up the big part of us.

Obviously, Europe should pay more than America for sure because Europe is the country, you know, Europe is the continent, for example, that is directly threatened by Russia. So you support conscription that they're now launching all over Europe. I don't think I said, did I say conscription? No, let me stop. Hold on just a minute. I'm asking a question. This is logical. Okay.

Germany's preparing description. Five countries have launched it, including women. They say it's a 30-year war. They will break up Russia. that's the official policy. That's the business plan of the defense ministers. I can pull it all up and the finance ministers. And so there's massive conscription going on.

They're feeding people into meat grinders just to try to expend Russian arms production, which is three to one against Europe. And I'm asking you, is there a conscription in Ukraine? And is Europe bringing that conscription for the war? You just said they need to back? Listen, I was in Ukraine two months ago. there's this big narrative that, for example, Tug Carlson runs with where he basically says

that, you know, there are no young men left in Ukraine, everybody's been rounded up. Listen, every single place I went, I went to probably about 10 different cities, 10 different towns across Ukraine over three, four week period. I saw young men walking everywhere, unmolested by any street police. I, you know, people sign up for the national draft.

But for example, this is a, this is a, you know, for example, there's a major source of tension between the United States and Zelensi. Okay, I guess. There's no conscriptioning notes massive on record. I'll ask you a question. You never answer questions. 18 to 24 years.

Let's go back. Is Zelensky a dictator? Did he ban his political opposition? And is there conscription in Ukraine? Okay. Did, for example, Churchill ban Oswald Mosley and the British National Union of Fascist during World War II? Did that make Churchill a dictator in World War II?

No, he... Any country that is... Any country that's facing existential invasion? He had elections here. Any country... Did Zolnski cancel election? Britain didn't hold elections during World War II, mate. Britain didn't hold elections during World War II.

The actual opposition to... No, no, no. This is not true. The parties that were banned. For example, one of the parties that got banned, they literally had a guy at the start of the invasion called for Russia to nuke Ukraine. Tell me, if America was being invaded by Trump. You're not being, in my view, you're not being honest.

Is there a conscription in Ukraine? There is constriction for Ukraine, but there's no conscription for 18 to 24-year-olds. So did you know, for example, there's a big source of tension between the Trump, administration and Ukraine, where the Trump administration has, Trump administration has been saying to Zelensi, you have to conscript 18 to 24 year olds. Delensi doesn't want to send the 18 to 24 year olds to the front line because they worry

that they will lose an entire generation of young men. So actually, if you look at the demographic makeup, No, I'm saying I'm going to scripting the 6-year-olds. That's really sick. Sorry, what do you mean conscripting the 6-year-olds? I mean, I think the average age is like 55 now. So what about, what about, now we've got women die. No, I thought you said 6-year-olds, sorry.

sorry you go ahead you didn't know the average age of the new fighters like 50 no i was about to say that no i was literally about to say that i was saying the demographic makeup of both the russian and ukrainian military is actually well over 40 so it's a foreign eugenics they're getting rid of the old people that works better than the job of the job of the time no it's what about the down syndrome guys how's he doing listen listen i can't i can't verify that i have no idea about whether that's even a real video as you would know in war people make up fake videos all the time but listen listen mr jones Tell me, if America was being invaded, would you support conscription?

Would you think that people who avoided conscription were, you know, portraying the nation? If America was literally being invaded right now? Like, surely, at what point do you think that Ukraine and by the globalist system, the same ones encircling Russia? Sorry, say that again. The same globalist flooding Europe with Islamists and all the rest of it are the ones doing that to me. So I have the same enemies as Russia. Can I ask you this?

What do you have to say about the fact that? This is a verified fact. Belarus, you know, Lukashenko in Belarus is a puppet state of basically the Russians. He's been flying over Iraqi men from Iraq. They've literally been flying over tens of thousands of young men from the Middle East using the Belarusian state airline to try send them over the border to Poland, to try to start migrant tensions. They did this as well in Finland.

Russia was trying to push tens of thousands of migrants over the border. And the US is bringing Afghans in to fight. What do you think of Russia and the North Koreans? That's horrible. it's horrible. Of course it's horrible. I want to ask you this, right? How can you be on the same side as Russia when they're literally bringing in communists from North Korea to kill European Christians? I mean, the globalists we have here are total Satanist. So you keep calling Russia communists. I don't agree with that definition. I don't like North Korea either. I like

Trump's peace still with them. But they're in an alliance with Russia, just like China and Iran. And so you've got Americans recruiting people from all the world to go fight about there. That's how these wars work. I need to ask you this question. Are you familiar? familiar with the fact that Jugan went on stage in Russia and he said, part of our war effort is to give opportunities to young men from the Middle East and Latin Americans. They're bringing mercenaries from Africa. They're bringing mercenaries from everywhere. All across the world, they're bringing in Boudanese, Nepalese.

Let me ask you this. So it's Russia is expanding. Russia is not expanding. Russia is under attack. That's the whole point. So let me ask you this. Russia's under attack. Let me ask you this.

Did Alexander Dugan's daughter need to die? did Darya Dugina deserve to die? No, listen, listen, Mr. Jones. It's very unfortunate. Mr. Dugan has years and years and years where he literally said that Ukrainian should be genocided. He said Ukrainian should be exterminated. So past a certain point, you know, in wars, horrible things happen. It's very horrible.

I wish that nobody was ever killed. I wish the war never started. But that's the way it is. So she got blown up. So let me ask you this. I'm going to ask you again. I mean, how, this is what I don't understand, Mr. Jones. Why are you, you focus on Dalia Deguna.

Dude, three kids were murdered the other night by Russia and Ukraine. Three kids were just killed in their beds. Why do you not share the tears for them? Well, I don't see, you don't ever have her. They specifically blew up her car. You know, in wars is going to be collateral damage. You think Russia is trying to kill children? Yes, I do.

I do. Oh, really? Why aren't they using artillery and just roll in and flatten all the cities then? But they're doing this. There are cities in the east of Ukraine that have been bulldozed to the ground. Do you think Buckmore do even exist anymore? Some of these cities don't even exist anymore. Well, you know what Victor Booth said yesterday.

They've been pulver. He said that the Russians are getting ready. Let me give a little of information. He said, Ukraine doesn't make a peace still soon, as Trump has said as well. They're going to come in out of Belarus. They're going to encircle Kiev. They're going to give the civilians a week or so to leave, and then they're going to flatten it. So what do you think of that?

I mean, that sounds genocidal to me. Are you going to accept that? Of course not. What do you think of Israel? flattening Gaza. Oh, listen, listen, I think it's, I think unfortunately the war has involved so much suffering, and I wish the war would end, of course.

Hamas unfortunately started that war, and they think of the U.S. bombing Dresden in World War II? Well, bombing Dresden in World War II, unfortunately, Nazi Germany wouldn't surrender. I mean, I blame Nazi Germany for those moral. What about the Japanese? They did try to surrender. That was in 1944.

That was none. Hiroshima and Lakasaki, the Japanese did try to surrender. Did the Japanese deserve to have a ton of bonds? That's not true, Mr. Jones. That's not true, Mr. Jones. Are you familiar with the fact that after the bombing of Nagasaki, two atomic bombs,

there was still a faction of the most hardcore imperialist, hardcore imperial Japanese forces that tried to do it. I mean, I've seen the letters. They tried to surrender a week before. Okay, listen. No, they tried to prevent the surrender broadcast. I want to tell you something in close. I'll let me back on.

You're not going to get your nuclear war. I don't want a nuclear war. Stop. I don't want what. I'll let you finish. NATO is a big new president. Vittgen, Newland,

George Soros, and we're going to take clips of this, and we're going to add all the clips of them after it. You say, oh, your fact check

or whatever. All said they were going to use Ukraine as the detonator to try to go to full war with Russia. Europe is mobilizing for war.

You might think Napoleon was good. Maybe Hitler was good. I don't think you think that. The West needs to stop constantly trying to have wars

with Russia, and we need to reform this. If this is NATO expansion, can I ask you, if this is NATO expansion, why does Russia take the Ukrainian children and deport them to Russia to be raised as Russians? That's ethnic cleansing. That's another piece where they've evacuated people and the media says they're kidnapping kids. All I know is they have the LGBT. What do you think of LGBT over here where they farm Christians kids? Germany takes Christians kids and gives them to convicted pedophiles.

What do you think of that? Mr. Jones, there are literally thousands, tens of thousands of Ukrainian kids that have been kidnapped and deported right now. and you're just saying, oh, well, what about the West? What about the West? No, why can't you just say this is wrong? Why can't you just say straight up? No, I mean, you said a whole bunch of stuff that isn't true. It's a war zone.

But they've taken these kids, though. Do you think that every single kid that was transported to Russia wants to be there? The world headquarters for Orban harvesting and child human sex slavery trafficking. They're trafficking children right now, Mr. Jones. They're trafficking Ukrainian children to Russia. The Russians are trafficking. That's why the Russians 15 years ago banned sending us orphans saying they were getting raped. And now we know.

they were. What about the million kidnapped kids in America brought them with the Democrats? Why don't you care about children? Listen, you're saying that you care about children when you're literally ignoring the fact that Russia is deporting tens of thousands of kids. Tens of thousands of kids kidnapping them. They've been separated from their families.

Some of these kids don't even, you know, they've been deported into a fucking gulag. Why do you? Why would you accept this? Talking points. You want to come on Friday. We'll do it again. I want to do a spaces where we talk, maybe 30 minutes and take commenters and deal on spaces.

All right. I'm out of time. Drew, Pavlou, an interesting discussion. NATO's expanding. The EU wants to break up Russia. The West is the aggressor. And it's insane. That's my view. All right. Let's see some of these headlines. Missiles that hit Poland likely came from Ukraine. Poland says, though they tried to blame Russia and into full war. The partnership, the secret history of the war in Ukraine, the CIA ran it all. Hunter Biden helps secure millions of funding for military biotech research. program of Ukraine, they tried to deny. Justice Sudeau apologizes for Nazi veteran honored in parliament. The case of the missing children lost babies and corpses without organs fuel allegations of trafficking in body parts by the Ukrainian regime. Body snatches.

Ukraine recruiters use harsh tactics to fill ranks. And it goes on and on. Ukraine Parliament affirms no elections during wartime and rebuff to Trump. All right. Ukraine Nazi problems. real, even Putin's denotification

claim isn't. Commentary, Ukraine, neo-Nazi problem. Ukraine's far-right menace. Neo-Nazis, on and on. All right, I'm basically out of time. I wanted to get to Bono, but I'll cover it tomorrow because I got to make a correction. I said he stole 99% of the funds he got for African aid.

I'm sorry, I was not true. They gave almost all the funds for guns to cause a civil war and kill millions. I'm sorry. So it was for food, and then they set the majority of the money for weapons with the CIA. And we'll be getting into that.

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