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Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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All right, there is so much happening and so much domestically going on that has been backbenched, backburnered, because of the incredible dangerous escalation in the Middle East between Israel and Iran. And that is still boiling.

And there's huge pieces of information going on there. The tea leaves are clear. The move by the globalist and the Lakudniks, and it's all pre-planned, pre-programmed in the propaganda is false flagged terror attacks be blamed on Iran. Now, Iran has its own weird methodology and does have sleeper cells and has shown. got its mouth off about launching attacks. Who knows what they'll do? Also, a lot of those groups are badly coordinated

and may just do it on their own. So I want to be clear, we get hit by terror attacks, which I think is a probability in the next few months. I'm not going to just jump to conclusions. But I will give you my analysis, even when it happens. But it is a very serious situation. I sense something as big or bigger than 9-11.

I feel a disturbance in the force. the last time I felt it was in the presence of my old master. So, yeah, and I think you can feel it too. You can see it as well intellectually. So there's all these different angles in the economy. There's also giant PR talking points going out that a lot of people are picking up on and buying into. And even though they're people I really like and respect who are right most of the time, when they, in my opinion, are wrong, I will talk about it.

And I'm not cherry picking Joe Rogan. It's a whole bunch of people doing it. And I know he's just repeating what he hears on the street, because I hear it too. And I understand it's painful for a lot of people. But, you know, Joe's like, this is just crazy how many innocent people Trump is deporting. I thought he was going to deport the criminals. Well, that was in round one. but everybody here illegally is a criminal.

And this is part of a globalist invasion. They're the ones that did all this lawlessly and illegally, and now have the Article III judges working against Trump. So when they bring you into a martial law system they created, martial law just means not governance of the Constitution. Well, what did you have with the Democrats and the NGOs? They're the ones that brought us here. So, yeah, you bet when they're death-threating and attacking,

the ice people, they're going to wear a mask. That normally, normal police doing that, not in a total crisis, I'd be against and always been against. But when they bring us into that, you better damn believe we're in an emergency and we didn't start it, but we're going to finish it. Stay with me. I'm Alex Jones. This is the Info War.

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That said, I enthusiastically criticize every misstep I believe the president and the people I know that are good and loyal make. because that's my job. And it doesn't mean I'm always right either. And I welcome criticism of myself that is legitimate. And in many cases, helps me make better decisions. We are not the Democratic Party that's a cult that receives the messages from on high and then chirps them out like a bunch of paris. But overall, I would give Trump an A-plus.

Veering into this expansion of war in the Middle East, very dangerous. but as Victor Arbonne said at the NATO summit, everything he sees with Trump is dialing everything back and he's got the deep state, military industrial complex, by the tail, but it's a tiger. And Trump legitimately doesn't like war. He legitimately understands it's incredibly dangerous. And now he's seeing the pitfalls that I predicted

where they would say it was a big scandal that you didn't take out the nuclear material. When they say they took out the same, sites, yeah, they damage them very badly and obliterated some. That's true, but it's an argument about terms. And now they're making it a huge scandal of congressional hearings and all the rest of it. And I was the only person in the last few weeks, the last month before this even started, saying it every day. And now you see it.

Now, out of this a lot of good has happened, the acceleration of the American people understanding that the Israel lobby, when it comes to our foreign policy, has more power than the populist Republican grassroots and controls more members of the House and Senate than the President does. Netanyahu can get more votes on issues pertaining to the Middle East and our military, That's on record. Then Trump can pull. And that's because Trump's not sitting there putting campaign money into these people's pockets. So I don't hate Israel.

I don't want Israel blown off the map. I don't fetishize hating Jews. But I also don't lionize Israel and just take everything that Israel does. Oh, it's our little ally, gallon ally. We've got to do whatever they say. Bull crap. Criticism of Israel is always fair. or anybody else or any other country.

And I am disgusted by the manipulation of even our domestic policies by the Israel lobby. And then denials by Ted Cruz and others, in that ridiculous interview last week, we took Carlson, where he goes, APEC has no influence. I mean, it's like saying the ocean doesn't have any water in it. And so those of us that have been critical of this, that it needs to be our purpose, president and the American people and what we voted for needs to be our policy not what NATO wants not what the UK wants not what Israel wants that needs to be our guiding North Star so Steve Bannon is a very smart person and he's been proven right about everything and that's

why he's been consistently targeted by the deep state and he's been really coming out hard yesterday and today, and he was the only other major media figure that talked about what I predicted and had me on and agreed that they're going to make it a major scandal and claim that they didn't destroy the fissile material, which obviously the Iranians got out of there. But it does knock them back that they can't produce more. And so it does mitigate it, but it's not really true that it's not really true that it's, that it's, completely removed. And so that keeps the crisis on the table. And Netanyahu's emergency powers elapsed in about five and a half months. He will definitely cook something up to try to continue the policy of regime change.

And Ayatollah, the Supreme Leader, claims victory over U.S. and Israel in first statement sent strikes on nuke facilities. And he went on to say, what this really shows us is it was always about regime change because Trump actually said that. Well, if Trump wanted regime change, it's a good chance he could get it.

But he understands it's a real roll of the dice, and China and Russia are already coming into it as little as North Korea, so he wisely pulled back. Before I get to abandon the criticism of Israel, let me just give you my educated opinion on this. Israel, In the last 600-day war against Iran, with Iran, it's not a 12-day war.

That was just the climax, the finale so far, at least of this act, has dominated and defanged Iran. And again, people go, we hate Israel, no, they lost. You don't make a statement off what you want to be true. And I don't want Israel to, quote, lose this war. I want this war to stop because it's so dangerous. It's rolling nuclear dice here geopolitically. But to say that Israel and the U.S. lost this war is crap. Now, Israel was running the tables with legendary precision mixed with barbarism.

And their argument is, well, that's war. That's what it is. but so we don't want to have it so dangerous with nuclear weapons and everything else. So they were the equivalent of a football game where one team gets 47 points, the other team gets three points. When they went to direct conflict with Iran, and Iran blasted billions and billions of dollars of infrastructure and potmarked the three major cities of Israel that weren't Jerusalem,

that was a target of this is Abraham I'm a holy city. Iran in the eyes of the Muslim world is the winner. Now, not really strategically or militarily, but this turned into a football game where Israel so far has won, you know, 35 points to 14. And if Israel continues down this line, rolling the dice, rolling the dice, making us roll the dice with them, it just gets more and more dangerous. So it's not a true statement by the Ayatollah, but it gives him that argument. You can say, well, why does that matter? Well, it matters in the eyes of the whole world. Who wins wars, who loses wars.

But I'll assure you, the war is not over. And you can argue what quarter were in here, but the big lie is that the war is over. And you notice Israel's not saying that. And so there's a lot of Israelis and a lot of the Israelis, and a lot of their press licking their lips publicly. A bunch of them I showed you over the last few days their statements, Martin and others. Oh, you just wait till the terrorists yet,

then you'll get on board to obliterate Iran. Well, with Israel's long history of false flags, that's pretty much a confession before the act. So if there is terror attacks, Israel or groups associated with it are the prime suspects, but because Iran does have sleeper cells and has run its mouth recently about attacking us, they're right below Israel.

And so I know I keep repeating that, but to me that's a big, big, big, big, big deal. You know, the British say fortune favors the bold, and the Israelis say, by way of deception, we will win. And all I say is we keep following the old game plan, the old rules of war. That's what all the actuaries and all the futurists and all the top wargamer say,

we got to stop this, or we're all going to kill each other. We've got weapons too powerful. So discretion is a greater form of valor. And everybody's got their beefs for different sides. Everybody's got their angles. What I know is this is a sovereign country founded in 1776 July 4th,

and I'm sick of Black Rock and the Israelis, and British intelligence in NATO and the EU and the CHICOMs and the Russians of a certain extent and others manipulating our internal politics. Now, I got a bunch of clips I want to get to and then I got a bunch of other domestic news that's so important we're going to be getting to as well and some big guests today. Errol Musk was scheduled to be on next hour,

but he had an emergency. He may still be on me, or that'll be on tomorrow. That's great. I look forward to talking to him just about his talk in Russia and his view on the world, very interesting person, very controversial. and Laura Lumer is on the show talk about her view on things. I don't want to spend a bunch of time in fighting and controversy

and her and Tucker fighting and all this crap. But she does talk to Trump a lot and is an interesting person and I've been friends with her a long time. I think criticize her recently because she's been acting like a gatekeeper in my view, you know, up there.

I'm taking screenshots what you said. I'm going to show Trump about other people. I'm like, yeah, we want Trump to hear what we're saying. So don't act like we're sneaking this on air. like, hey, I'm really against this war. And I think Trump's being misled. And I think it's really dangerous. But don't tell me if I said it.

Don't go tell the teacher. Don't tell daddy. Because Trump ain't my daddy. He's my president. And you've got the sycophants in NATO who know that Trump is very optimistic. Trump's very into being positive. He's into having a great time. It's not that he's an egomaniac.

And you can flatter him and get what you want. He loves excitement. He loves people agreeing with him. He loves having fun. And so you just see Netanyahu and Root, the head of NATO, just kissing his ass, just pouring the gravy on. I mean, I watched the videos, not just them calling him Daddy, and Daddy, you know, Daddy knows what to do. But just all the other body language, at different gaggles and clutches of people he was talking to, and they were just fawning on him. And then Trump's put out a music video about, you know, Daddy's home.

Hey, hey, hey, Daddy. Oh, my God. So they know that the populist movement is unstoppable with the proper leadership around the world. They know they're in trouble. And so now they've gone from openly criticizing him when he was in the first time at NATO summits and G20 summits and G8 summits. Now G7 summits and World Economic Forum summits. They'd be rat that with Gigi pig. He'll beat you.

Don't worry. Ha, ha, ha. So like, oh, yes, master. Oh, oh. That's a very dangerous point to be at. But that's because they realize Trump and the populist movements around the world have all the cards. If we're non-interventionist peace or strength, if we continue the economic deals, if we continue the trade realignment that we're winning on, if we boost energy production,

if we stabilize the dollar, if we get interest rates cut, yes, we're on the winning path. The whole global political order is being realigned right now. It's a new new world order. it's all in flux right now so it's ours to lose don't be a panic in like on the trade deals it's really a political realignment a new alliance but then you get the neocons trying to come in and say they represent the real maga mark levin and ever trumper all those other people he's just an example of them and that gaslighting has failed and they want to say if we try to keep Maga true to its aims, we are the traitors, we are the impostors, and it's preposterous.

And at the heart of that is the powerful propaganda and funding networks of the Israeli lobby. That's not just APEC, but is their big donors and is a lot of the media, and that is the Mossad, and the rest of it. that is extremely effective as you've seen in everything they do. So I'll always give it to Israel and, you know, their lobby and the rest of it. I'm, yeah, you guys are something else. And at the end of the day, though, the globalists, the big banks, want the Trump plan to fail because they want us all to collapse into debt for the social credit score and total control. And at the end of the day, I don't want nuclear war and you're rolling the dice with your policies on that.

You're only looking at your own view and not looking at the ripple effects, and it can easily kill our recovery. So that's why I am very strongly opposing you wanting regime change and accelerating all this crap. And that's why I'm on your ass. And it's the same thing with Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon does not hate Israel. He's been pro-Israel. But he understands that what you want to do is very selfish. and is only thinking about yourself.

Well, think about yourself out more than just wanting to kill the mullahs. I get it. You're all wound up, and it's an ancient battle, and you're finally routing them, and you finally knocked out most of your enemies, and God doggard, if you'd just get behind us, we'd finish these sons and bitches off, you don't think the Russians and the Chinese and the North Koreans and the Pakistanis

and all of them and Saudi Arabia moving closer now to Iran, you don't think they don't know they're next. you don't now Israel's we're a superpower all this geckons if you run the U.S. you are if you run the big weapon system we've got that's the best in the world yeah and so they they're watching and see here's the deal I don't want to have a conquest nuclear war I want to de-escalate and go type one civilization you know Buck Rogers just like Elon Musk wants so I can look at where this goes, and I can read what the Rang Corporation, everybody else says,

and why most Trump's advisors said don't do this, because it's too dangerous. So the Israeli bots are putting me out as Muhammad and as a mullah. I think it's hilarious. They flood the zone with it. Yeah, you think anybody actually buys that crap? You think anybody thinks I'm going to cry at night in my pillow if the Ayatollah gets his ass killed? Come on. Stop it.

Or I should say intensify because it's hilarious. I mean, I actually get off on it. But let's now go to Steve Bannon. So here's Steve, first talking about Fox News, that literally is like an A-PAC mouthpiece. So, oh, the Russians are influencing elections. All this is basically made up, totally exaggerated. But with Israel, it's a fact.

And you've had Fox basically going against what Trump's wanting and wanting full regime change for weeks, even before it was officially announced by Israel. But obviously, I said that's what it is. And that's what it is. That's the goal. And then he goes into Mark Levin, who is Tel Aviv Levin. And look, Mark Levin is a disgusting neocon anti-Trumper.

Now, we've forgiven people, at least halfway like Ted Cruz, he's good on domestic issues, who was a never-Trumber. But people like Lindsey Graham and the rest of them are disgusting. and Mark Levin trying to go around as the warden of the mind control base he wishes we were in, attacking everyone as un-American and traitors who don't want to have regime change or force regime change that we have to do, which will probably not work, at least for a long time, get us in a quagmire. So you are Tel Aviv Levin. And that's not a pejorative.

It's who you're with. It's who you're for. And it's on record. So that's great. But stop wearing your American flag pin. Stop all that stuff. That's not who you work for. Damn it.

So be honest about who you are. You're Israel first, not America first. Play the clips. Anybody took a paycheck from Fox in 21, Murdoch Senate. We're going to make Trump a non-person. You sat there and you ran. Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley and all of them that are never going to be present, never going to win national elections, ever. Just like the collection of clowns you put up in 2016 and yes, they were by and large not with the program and got turfed out and beaten.

Although Fox went all in for them, you tried to kneecap Trump in the very first debate. You hated Trump. You hated Trump. And to show much how much you hate him, you won't even deal straight now. It's just propaganda, propaganda, and Lindsey Graham and Lindsey. We can play clips. I can do the whole show one hour. And you know what?

You would be so repulsed by it. Be like that time in clockwork orange. Your eyelids are popped open and you've got to watch it all the time. Over and over and over again, just like in Iraq. It was pretty extraordinary. I think it reinforces the president's total obliteration. And Dr. Gina, I think you guys nailed it that you're sitting there and seeing the deep state. Because the media is the information arm of the deep state, right?

Just like we call David Ignatius over at the Washington Post and Morning Joe, the comms director for the Langley Bugle. And I think the audience understand, this is the tension you saw, the buried leading this thing is the tension you saw between Pete Heggseth, the secretary of defense, or as President Trump says, hey, maybe we go back. and just renamed it Secretary of War back in the times when we were winning wars. In Jennifer Griffin of Fox News, because Fox News has been the biggest proponent of regime change. I mean, they're essentially a platform for a foreign government. Okay, let's be blunt, what the Murdox are doing and what Fox News is doing, what Tel Aviv, Levin, Hannity, the whole crowd. And I realize, Dr. Gina, particularly, they're friends of yours,

and people that we've known for a long time. But you've got to call it like it is. What was so evident is the underlying tension of the deep state to want to continue an open-ended war in the Middle East. And President Trump is quite adamant about this. He sent a really, the most not just organized or logistically incredible, but lethal, crushing. of these facilities.

And they didn't even get into the tomahawk missiles and what the submariners did to the above ground. All right. So what you're seeing here is people that are Americans and serve America versus people at Fox and everything else that are basically Israeli agents. But it's also the military district complex to a great extent once this war.

It's not just Israel. So that's wrong. So you're learning, again, who actually is an American and who isn't? and Pesobics intelligence works directly under the president. I'll leave it at that. Bannon used to take care of the nuclear weapons. That's his job officer in the Navy.

These are real American patriots. And this is who Mark Levin says aren't Americans. Look, Levin, be honest, pack your bags and go to Israel, okay? You're welcome here, too, if you would just want to be an American. But stop it. I believe he's a foreign intelligence agent. I believe he is a dyed-the-wall actual Mossad officer. We'll be right back.

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I learned that later from Tucker years ago, but I learned that from the people that were involved. And they said, will 100% get behind you, you will be the president, we will finance it all. And then Trump even talked to him in the last couple years about being his VP running mate, and Tucker said no.

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I mean, he's an outdoors guy. He cannot stand D.C. The power circles. He's the real deal. He's exactly this type of guy you'd want to be the president because he doesn't want it. It's like a gladiator, which is based on a composite of three-truth stories. It's actually true where the Caesar wants this general that he raised from a child came from poor background.

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and who are smart and good that would deserve it. He'd be a great president. So at R.FK Jr., so with Tulsi Gabbard. I mean, I see their actions. I can see their soul. And boy, is MAGA not a big victory with Maha right now? That is super delivering. Got big developments on that coming up.

Errol Musk will be on in the fourth hour today. Yet an emergency needed to move it from the second hour to the fourth hour. Elon Musk's dad, but also a very interested, accomplished person in his own right, did a very interesting presentation to the Russians. A few weeks ago, I was invited at the same conference. I spoke at it via video link, but wanted him to come on the show, talk about artificial intelligence, collapse so much more in the fourth hour today, Laura Lumer, in the third hour,

but I've got plenty of time now into the next hour to cover all this news and domestic news haven't yet gotten to. But here's something I need to just say because it's very important. And I don't really understand how I can explain this to people because it's weird. And I've had to experience it. Like we know Trump's really had the deep state targeting. And we know for really nine and a half year. they've been on his family, on him, criminal prosecutions, lawfare, demonization attacks, all sorts of sabotage.

I've been being attacked for decades, but in 2013, we learned this year when the FBI sent us the files we showed it to you. Obama declared me a top national security risk, wouldn't say who I supposedly worked for, had the Boston field office under Robert Mueller's operations, target me, harass me, debankas, create all the lawsuits, all of it. now know all that. We have documents from all these different points, testimonies, you name it, put it all together. And so that's what this has been like. I mean, I'm a soldier in the fight for truth that only by the grace of God and your support

has withstood all of this in my crew and my family. And we've been run up to the wall and our backup reserves and things have been expended. Now, we've never been more influential. we've never had audiences bigger. So it's the best of times, worse of times. It's a paradox. But every show I go on, like Bannon's last Thursday is an example,

but everyone I go on on them, and I go on them, big shows, little shows are all important. I go on them. People go, congratulations, beating the attempt to shut out Info Wars. What are you going to do now? And I just say to them, you know, I'd rather not spend 30 minutes explaining this to you, but we are far from out of the woods.

You can go read the court filings in state and federal court in Connecticut, Texas, and you have a very, in my opinion, corrupt U.S. trustee from the Justice Department that will not allow the assets to be sold anybody that wants to keep it open, that will keep the show on. They've said that in their filings. They've said that in their emails. They've said that in depositions. We presented in court a few weeks ago to the judge. You got very upset about it.

You've seen them all over the news saying back during the show trials and after, we don't want money. We want him close. Then they go on the news and say, he won't give us money when they won't take money or do a settlement. And I'm still on appeal as well. And then now the new Leptus talking point is Alex Jones was never under attack.

The Onion never claimed it bought it with Bloomberg. They never had a fake auction. They never turned the electricity off or the internet off. They never kicked him out of the building twice. Alex didn't refuse to leave. It's all on record. And I'm still in the thick of a fight. Tyson Fury, you know, in the last round.

And both fighters have been knocking each other down. There's bloodstreaming everywhere. And it's more than just one fight. It's like being Muhammad Ali, and you're in battle after battle after battle. And there's always another battle because they keep attacking me to take us off the air. And I finally got the Justice Department doing a criminal investigation of them. And for conspiracies against my rights and lawfare, the technical term, is abuse of process. it's going on.

So we're finally winning. The bad guys are totally disgraced in all these illegal, fraudulent attempts to shut us down. They've got egg all over their face, and people go, well, then Alex is won. Now, in a Machiavellian sense, and I can understand Maccabellian things very well, I don't follow a McEvellian thought in my own actions, but I understand it. If they're able to shut us down, I mean, they're in state court. crime right now, they're in federal court crime right now. People are going to go, whoa, they're not in their studio.

Whoa, it's shut down. They'll be all over the news celebrating. And that is going to blow up in their face even more spectacularly. And everybody's going to remember all their other attempts. It's like in cartoons. Where the villain, each episode tries to get the good guys but fails and says, I'll get you next time, Gadget. I'll get you next time, gadget. Next time.

Or Dick Dastardly with his mustache. Catch the pigeon. Catch the pigeon. They're flying around their biplanes, you know, shooting each other. And why is that an archetype? Why are things cliches? Why are things stereotypes?

Because that's art imitating life. So I'm the big target, other than Trump, the big juicy Roman standard they want to get. And they've tried to get it. And they've tried to, it's like we're the Alamo, but instead of the Alamo holding out, you know, three days or whatever, This is the Alamo holding out for decades. And they just said bigger armies and more attacks and attempted infiltrators and total harassment.

And push my parents the edge of bankruptcy. And just, it's been very interesting. And it's only made me want to fight that much harder. But your word of mouth supporting the broadcast, your prayer. Yeah, there's Wired Magazine seven years ago, the silencing of Alex. Jones and they celebrate it. Remember when they were first platforming, they used the term be platforming

the first time, like seven years ago on me, and I went, I'm being platformed. They had like New York Times. No one's taking him off the air, there's no censorship. I mean, think of all the stuff they've done. I start thinking about it, makes my head spin there so much. The tens of thousands of articles, the thousands of TV

programs, the movies, the HBO specials, the the Dick Cheney movie has me in it. I mean, it just goes on and on. He who must not be named, what Alex Jones and Voldemort have in common. Why they were so scared? Because I got their number. I know what I'm talking about.

And I got a big audience of people that know what's going on. And we represent what they fear of populist awakening spreading. So I see this stuff constantly. So here's just one little microcosm example of an X-Spaces with Code Pink. That's George Soros and USA. and they're on their laughing and joking and saying Alex Jones completely made it up. No one ever tried to close him. No one ever came against him.

So now, because they are so disgraced and so discredited, the Democratic Party under criminal investigation, losing in court, the all-judged liberal panel, the Texas appellate court said, oh, looks like we're going to overturn this. And now that's outweighing. Then I have to get to the Republican, conservative Supreme Court. the subject it was so brazen

the judge found me guilty then had a show trial and then after the jury agreed on how much money I owed that was imaginary then the judge two weeks later added on other things I was guilty for

that it's preposterous it's beyond a railroad driven right into the prison beyond railroading beyond kangaroos as a jury so you saw all that and now they say

I mean they're on the lawyers are up there saying take him off the air have a judgment so big he can never be on the air again and scare anyone else that ever tries to be alternative facts we're going to use him as a model to shut everybody else down and then the new talking point everywhere is Alex Jones was never under attack

in fact nobody ever tried to take a populist or conservative speech Trump wasn't shot they never tried to put him in prison so it's bigger than me and bigger than info wars So I need your support at the Alice Jones store.com. You get incredible products. But it is a protest against tyranny, and it's a defense of your own future and your own safety

when you support this broadcast. I don't take donor money. I don't take very many sponsors, because they've got to be really good for me to take them. I got to vet them. I direct sale to you great things that I know you're going to love that are going to enrich your life. I need all of you.

that have sat on the fence and never gone and got any of our products to go to the Alexionysburg.com. But just here's an example. This is just a clip without even looking yesterday. I loved to read comments and I saw on a bunch of my videos. This and other things being posted as a bot operation, a talking point. Nobody ever tried to shut him down. Nobody ever did dirty tricks.

The U.S. trustee from the Justice Department. you know, well, Trump runs that. No, he's still appointed. It goes back to Biden. Shoot my parents last week, alleging they've got all this hidden money, even though they already have the accounting. I know it's not true, to further bankrupt them and run headlines about how I'm hiding money and I'm a crook. But I'm not under attack. So here's just a short clip, and I'm going to move on.

But this is the gas lighting. Here it is. I know what happened. I know what happened, Walter. You got like, hold on, Mason. Mason, let me tell you something real quick. Hold on, you've been speaking a lot. Hold on, dude.

Go ahead. Hold on. Hold on. Look, I know you said you're an Alex fan, right? I'm going to tell you about five years ago, I was listening to Alex Jones for like a week straight. It was more than an hour a day, right? More than an hour a day. My entire basement is filled with storable food.

Okay? So just dialed down a little bit on Alex Jones and get into different spaces. But I'm telling you, it's not ending yet. I don't know when it's going to end. It's probably going to end, but it's not as close as it's sound. Listen, I love, there's a great video. There's a great video out there of somebody when it's like the first week, they started listening to Alex Jones, and it shows them.

And they've got like, they bought the water faucet cleaner. And then it's like by the end of the week, they have like the super male vitality for or whatever the hell his current one is. And then by the end of that week, he's got like his whole house has been reconverted into like shit. It's the greatest video ever. I love it. Walter, you know, my favorite thing, my favorite thing about Alex Jones, though, is not even that. It's that I think he's been telling everybody that he's going to be taken off the air for like 20 years now.

And no one knows it. Like everyone just getting taken off. Well, listen, everybody is his last broadcast, Walter. I'm telling you right now, I have been listening to this dude for many, many, many years. He has been saying that every day for 20 years, and I love it. It's the funniest thing. It's almost like he's been in a car for 20 years. The FBI is entering the room.

I am sleeping in the studio. They're going to carry me out. you're thinking this is going to happen in the bathroom. They're literally here. And you better buy your last bottle of methylene blue? That's right. You got to get the methylene blue

today. Today. Walter. Walter, he's on, he's on par. He's on par of being taken off the air as much as the Iranians have been trying to get a nuclear weapon for the last 30 years. I would have him. Cash Patel.

How they've been doing that? So, I didn't have five grand juries try to indict me in the news. I didn't have to testify in front of the fake J6 committee trying to put me in prison. I didn't have all these national security investigations. I didn't have the FBI testify that they ran the fake lawsuits against me in Connecticut. I don't have the CIA undercover admitting they ran it, on video, which we do.

They didn't put Owen in prison for no reason. They didn't persecute anybody. The globalist didn't shoot Trump. They're not trying to start a giant war, which they've already started a bunch of them. None of that's true. And, oh, the FDA on amidst fluoride lowers your IQ, gives you cancer. How dare I sell high-quality filters that cut it all out? I mean, I am a horrible person.

They all sell whatever they sell. But when I sell good stuff and T-shirts saying, Gulf of America, I'm a fraud. When I sell methyling blue, I'm bad, absolutely insane. When I had people try to come kill me in the Austin Police Department over the years, arrest nuts. When my reporter gets killed, you know, all of this. Everything's wonderful. Everything's fine. when I was there on J6 trying to stop people going on the building,

and the Wall Street Journal said I was telling people to go in the building. No, I've never been under any attack in my lifetime. We didn't have the Southern Probary Law Center put an infiltrator in here, who for a year hacked into the surveillance cameras in the building that are in the hallways and doorways, trying to find something incriminating on me and finally put out me walking around at midnight by myself and my shirt off smoking a cigarette with a bottle of vodka in my hand

because I slept here that night. That's what you got. And PIs and infiltrators and sex operatives and the FBI trying to set me up, all of that's going on. And Global is trying to hire me. And everything that's going on and the Democrat lawyers in Connecticut at the mediations in Texas of Connecticut openly saying to my lawyers and me, we want him to stop doing what he does politically and we'll drop all this. this is such a scandal. This is so legendary.

And you heard them, though, there's nobody trying to take your speech. There's nobody shipping in fentanyl. There's nobody shipping and kidnapped kids. Of course, they are on record. There's nothing bad happening. There's not crime in the street. They didn't defund the police.

They didn't do all this stuff. They didn't say, oh, he's a criminal in his bankruptcy. We know he's hiding hundreds of millions. He's going to prison. And then everything I said was true. The New York Times had a report. He never had big assets and he has meager assets. All of what I said was true.

I took 99% of the money came into this place, and I dumped it into trying to expand and fight the globalists and fight off all these legal attacks that have been going on for decades, but intensified the last seven years. They filed six months ago in federal court, and pull it up, Bloomberg reported on it, that they spent $323 million suing me, Paul Weiss law firm that confessed to quote illegal activity and lawfare against Trump.

That's who's attacking me. But you heard them. That's the ultimate gaslighting. To be savaging us, to be coming after us, to be doing all of this, and then say, no, nobody's trying to shut him up. Even though there have been tens of thousands of articles and them everywhere. We want him off the air. We can't wait.

Put that son of a bitch in. president indict him, put him in jail, and then grand jury, after grand jury, federal and state, Letisa James, all of them. And my lawyers are like, well, don't tell people this is going on, just respond to the grand jury and answer their questions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and go here and fly there and talk to this and have the U.S. Justice Department come depose me five, six times, and hand me paperwork and say, if you say one thing wrong, we're indicting you, here's the U.S. Code, read that into the camera.

But there's nothing going on. The crew just has to see me for years. half the time they deposed me there in a conference room about 30 yards, 20 yards away. My crew's here when the armed security shows up with no warrant because the U.S. trustee, the last one the judge fired, said, throw us out of the building, and I say, no, where's your warrant? I'm calling the police.

The crew all saw that. They all know how real it is. They all know about the illegal alien crime waves and the death and the destruction and the robberies and everything. They all know about the inflation. But you guys want to sit here and gaslight the American people that they're not under road attack. The reason Trump's under attack, the reason I'm under attack,

is because we're Americans and we tell the truth, and we're standing in the way of the globalists. They've got to get through us to get to you. So if you want to back the future, and you want to stand against people that hate this broadcast above everything else but Trump, and if you want to stand against their next stage terror attacks and their next pandemics and their next wars, then you keep me in the fight, and you're the ones that'll decide that.

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This is the Great Awakening, the answer to the Great Reset. I am your host, Alexander and Rick Jones, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, Austin, transmitting the message of 1776 worldwide. All right, I want to finish up on Iran and what's going on there and happening. Move quickly with a bunch of clubs. Then I'm going to get into what has a very high potential to be the next 9-11, the next COVID, the next staged globalist event, the next disease X. That's at the bottom of the hour. the national blueprint for biodefense.

Some very nasty hombres running it that I tracked back to the beginning of the project, 2004, on this one. So get ready for that. And I wish I would have known about this particular report that's a key report. It has all the earmarks of a battle plan, a rollout plan, earlier. but I'm thanks to the crew and folks getting that to us. So, sent a chill up my spine when I read it. So that's coming up. And then War Lomer and then Errol Musk,

Father Elon Musk, Fourth Hour. Okay. So, quick summation, the 12-day war, as is being now called, was really a 600-day war. Israel was taken out 95% I would dead reckon, and they've put out similar numbers, but of the proxy forces of Iran, Hezbollah, and others in the Middle East. And Israel once regime changed, this is all about Trump said he was against that, did some lip service, maybe he was for it, then backed off of it, as you know. They got really mad, but Israel kept bombing and breaking the ceasefire. But really what's emerged out of this is all the hype that the super cells are going to hit. hit, and Iran has said they might do it.

So if it happens, they're a suspect. But you also got to ask who stands to gain from that, and that's pretty obvious. And you have these big Israeli-connected Microsoft think tank PR firms in the last three weeks saying, censor anybody when terror attacks happens that says false flags, their bots take them down. They've got big tech prepared to do that so they can control the narrative. That's a very bad sign they're doing that. That points towards people that would stand the gain from that. There's a big 9-11 style event or a bunch of little events that add up to it.

There's going to be massive pressure to obliterate Iran and send in boots on the ground. That'll make Iraq look like a walk in the park. So very ominous. And now you've got behind the scenes the Israel lobby, Netanyahu's not doing it publicly, but it's surrogates are, and you've got the mullah saying, oh, you didn't get our nuclear material. Ha, ha, ha. Whether that's true or not. certainly did knock back to production.

And two of the sides are obliterated. The other one's heavily damaged. The evidence is clear. But Trump's not lying when he says we took out their sides, but that doesn't mean you got the stuff that was in them. As I kept saying, when nobody else was, that'd be a big issue. And now it's a big scandal. Now there's congressional hearings this week.

Today, in the Senate, tomorrow, in the House. They're making a huge deal out of it. And then there's just more pressure for regime change. And now the numbers are coming in. and the assessments are that it's actually unified Iran to a greater extent, capitalizing on rare unity, Iran's supreme leader sends a defiant message to Trump, says that Iran has defeated the U.S. and Israel. That's not true.

Israel had defanged them to a great extent. But visually, the image of a bunch of craters all over Israel and high rises burnt out and government buildings blown up. is a visual propaganda victory for the Iranians. And now the White House is not on its domestic agenda or any of that. Now it's just constantly defending, you know, oh, this is a fake leak, this is disinfo. And now the CIA has come out and said, yes, it's not true. Because it's certainly not true.

This is not back their program months. I mean, their ongoing program has been damaged for years. But the evidence is overwhelming. They already have bomb, great material. material. That's why Israel wants regime change. So the other big issue coming out of this is Jack Posobic and people like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson and myself, an MTG rightly saying, look, we're not anti-Israel. Preface it with that. But we're anti-President Netanyahu of America.

And the Israeli paper's bragging, we're a superpower. We run America's military analysis. We're a superpower. You know, lots of arrogant statements I showed you yesterday, and that's just not right. And we don't want regime change. That's not our policy. So it's a big deal. So it's a good thing that Americans are really getting this. Steve Bannon's calling out Fox News is basically being a PR firm for Netanyahu and saying there ought to be a criminal investigation.

These talk show hosts we know are basically dual citizens. Are they Mossad agents? Talk about election meddling, policy meddling. And it's also Lindsey Graham. and Pompeo and, you know, all of them going over to sabotage the Ukraine peace deal. I mean, it's just, it's all very dangerous. So, see, I'm upset at Graham and NATO and them, and I'm going after them when they're trying to control our policy and do things that are not the interest of this country

of the world. I harp on that. We got new news on that today. Because you can't let the Israel lobby, and I've got a former Hollywood Assad guy decades who I've interviewed, talking about how, you know, this is a fairer. official homicide policy to just say anybody that doesn't like another policies is calling you any cementic. It's important

to understand that that's a trope. That's just a default. I mean, I don't think Israel would want China running all their policy and having a much of Chinese agents of the government. It's illegal. Okay? So knock it off. All right?

And what Pompeo's doing is illegal. What Graham's doing. Even Trump said last week. Better watch out. that's illegal. It's illegal. It's illegal if you do it for NATO and the EU. It's illegal to be doing it for Israel. That's why, you know, we got Israeli spies in prison. And I think Lindsey Graham ought to be indicted.

And so should Pompeo. They already stripped his security clearance. So here's Tucker, though, this ties into this for the first time. He told the public about this. He told me about this years ago. Exposes Murdoch plot to take down Trump. After they fired him, they came to him and said, we'll give you a bunch of money, all this back you. You'll be the president. We want you to run against him. they take his show away and then think he won't organize his own that's bigger than ever

and try to get him to come in and be their operative, which is what they do. They try to get me to do that. They didn't say be the president. They offered me Fox News shows and all that stuff decades ago. And so that's how this works. But they told me, we'll control what you say. Tucker had to give up most of his contract. He talked about it to be able to control what he said.

They still would go back on the contract and try to control what he can say. Like they told him, no Alex Jones. he said, but my contract, he goes, I gave up two thirds of my money, be able to do what I want. And then it was more stuff, more stuff, more stuff. So he started getting pissed off and saying what he wanted. And then they fired it. So a lot of integrity there.

But you understand the Murdox are basically lacudnics. So this ties in everything, man, I was talking about. Here it is. Well, the whole game has been to manipulate the president, of course. and, you know, I think that's true with any president. I mean, that's the seat of power. So, of course, a lot of people have interested in, you know, moving it in their direction. I get it.

You know, it's not surprising. It's not even offensive. It's just the way things are. I'm just offended watching these people who I know personally, and I know for a fact they hate Trump. The Murdochs really hate Trump. Yeah. There's no one who hates Trump more than the Murdox. I mean, I got fired in April of 2023.

In May of 2023, they asked me to run for president. against Trump and said they would back me. Obviously, I'm not going to running for any, you know, I would never get elected in any. Plus, I like Trump. I mean, that's the funny thing is I actually genuinely, I get frustrated, I'm frustrated now. So hold on, I'm sorry, you just said that.

And people buy, I mean, they asked you to run for president against Trump, the Murdoch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lockland-Marth said, you should run for president. We'll back you. The whole, the whole thing, the whole Fox News apparatus. And not just Fox, but, you know, Wall Street Journal. All of their.

It was always times. Everyone. Absolutely. I will back you. And that came right from... You should do that. I was already gone. They had already canceled my show.

I was still under contract, but they canceled my show. You should run. We support you. You should run. We want to stop Trump. Yeah. Yeah, well, he was running. I was like...

And first of all, I liked Trump. And I thought DeSantis was kind of promising. And then he signed some hate speech bill out of the country. And I was like, ooh, you're a betrayer. Like, that's so offensive to me. I can't even... Any hate speech bill is so offensive to me. Can't criminalize opinions.

Right. What? Criminalized violence, which they don't. And I like DeSantis, but that was, I was at, I was like, no, I can't. That's so a violation of my principles. And I really, I've always liked Trump, despite getting frustrated as I do with everyone I love. We get frustrated, but I always like the guy a lot, and I still do. Anyway, but whatever.

And also, I couldn't get elected to anything, and I don't want to be elected to anything. It's not my world. I'm not in zero interest. I've never had any interest. But he looked at me, oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. at dinner. You should run and I was like, I don't, that's not my world. Like I'm an opinion guy. I just sit behind a mic and tell you what I think and that's what I've done my whole life, is what I want to do. It's all I'm qualified to do. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, you should do that.

That's a fact. So that's fine. I mean, lots of people dislike Trump. It just bothers me that this channel run and staffed by Trump haters. They're not all Trump haters. Again, Sean Hannity he likes Trump, good for him. For real, he does. And there are a few other people there who like Trump, but most people hate Trump. They wouldn't allow Trump on my show, period. Like Trump would call in what they call a beeper or phoner,

you know, I mean, we had them on our show all the time. Yeah, yeah. Like, nope, not doing that. I did an interview in April of 2023 right with Trump at Mar-a-Lago right before I got canned, like a week before I got canned. And boy, they were furious that I talked to Trump in that interview. Because they didn't want him to be promoted. Yeah, and Tucker's told me this stuff before, now it's public.

So that all ties into Israel as well in the deep state and the rest of it because they want war. Now, here's Hegg Seth in a press conference, taking it to the corporate media and their insanity, here it is. Why not acknowledge the female pilots that also participated in this mission? the early messages that you sent out only congratulated the boys. So when I say something like our boys and bombers, see, this is the kind of thing the press does, right? Of course, the chairman mentioned a female bomber pilot. That's fantastic.

She's fantastic. She's a hero. I want more female bomber pilots. I hope the men and women of our country sign up to do such brave and audacious things. But when you spin it as, because I say our boys and bombers is a common phrase, I'll keep saying things like that. Whether they're men or women, very proud of that female pilot. just like I'm very proud of those male pilots.

And I don't care if it's a male or a female in that cockpit. And the American people don't care. But it's the obsession with race and gender in this department that's changed priorities. We don't do that anymore. We don't play your little games. Yes, right there. Because you, and I mean specifically you, the press, specifically you, the press corps, because you cheer against Trump so hard,

It's like in your DNA and in your blood to cheer against Trump because you want him not to be successful so bad, you have to cheer against the efficacy of these strikes. You have to hope maybe they weren't effective. Maybe the way the Trump administration is representative isn't true. So let's take half truths, spun information, leaked information, and then spin it, spin it in every way we can to try to cause doubt. and manipulate the public mind over whether or not our brave pilots were successful. How many stories have been written about how hard it is to, I don't know, fly a plane for 36 hours? Has MSNBC done that story? As Fox?

Have we done the story how hard that is? Have we done it two or three times so that American people understand how about how difficult it is to shoot a drone from an F-15 or 16 or F-22 or F-35? or what it's like to man a patriot battery or how hard it is to refuel midair giving the American people an understanding of how complex and sophisticated this mission really was. There are so many aspects

of what our brave men and women did that because of the hatred of this press corps are undermined because people are trying to leak and spin that it wasn't successful. It's irresponsible. And folks in this room are privy to that information

because of the proximity here in the Pentagon. It's an important responsibility. And time to time again, classified information is leaked or peddled for political purposes to try to make the president look bad. And what's really happening is you're undermining the success of incredible B-2 pilots and incredible F-35 pilots and incredible refuelers and incredible air defenders who accomplished their mission set back a nuclear program in ways that other presidents would have dreamed. How about we celebrate that?

How about we talk about how special America is, that only we have these capabilities? I think it's too much to ask, unfortunately, for the fake news. So we're used to that. But we also have an opportunity to stand at the podium and read the truth of what's really happening. And the reality is you want to call it destroyed, you want to call it defeated, you want to call it obliterated, choose your word. This was an historically successful attack, and we should celebrate it as Americans. And it gives us a chance to have peace, chance to have a deal. and an opportunity to prevent a nuclear Iran,

which is something President Trump talked about for 20 years. The proper assessment would be two of the sites around the service were completely obliterated, annihilated, and the other big, dug-in site clearly heavily damaged. Yes, their ongoing enrichment knocked back three, four, five years. That's how long the estimates are and I looked at them. They're accurate. It would take to do that.

The issue is they've been enriching it at higher levels. They've been smuggling it out. And when I came on here weeks ago and said over and over again, this is coming, this is the scandal, they're going to say it's all a failure and say, now we've got to have regime change to keep this going. I was really the only person doing that because I understand how this works. And I have a responsibility to just tell you what I know is the best facts. How dare you say it's just not going to be easy? How dare you say it won't fix it and end the war?

I said, I hope if he does it. I hope he doesn't. Then it does work. But no, it's already here. Congressional hearings all of it. And this is the globalist. This is the Democratic Party. This is who they are.

They're the same ones that want us to go to full war with Russia. They're disconnected from reality. They're a bunch of scum. And so I see comments on X. Well, which is it? You were against the strikes, but now you're defending the president. I told you what was going to happen before. happened? I was trying to not go down this road because they didn't get much of the material.

And Trump's statement about it's really heavy and hard to get out. It's down deep in the ground. Come on, people. All right. And so Trump was walking into a trap. People aren't really buying into the media and the Democrats and the Israeli operatives saying, oh, see, it's a failure. We've got to keep going. But now come the. sleeper cells, whoever's going to be behind the attacks. And so that's the next thing we've got to deal with is terror attacks, a new 9-11, that will be 100% driven to go to full war with Iran. Let me just look at my watch here.

I mean, sometime in the next six months. And why do you say that? Well, there's a lot of data points going to that. Already covered it last hour. But the big one is Netanyahu's emergency powers are up in about five and a half months. Then it can be challenged. and Trump's saying all that video and photos of trucks leaving, well, they were just fortifying concrete.

That was going on too. But the idea that the Iranians can't get material they've made out of their underground factories, that's like saying you can't pull up at McDonald's and order food at the drive-thru and not be handed it at the window. Your poison Bill Gates' bug meal or whatever does. So I just report what the pieces are. I don't come over or go, I want to just say this. I have an agenda, and that's why this show's different.

That's why Steve Bannon's different. He's one of the only people I see, General Flynn, too, that actually just assesses things and that is informed. You know, Steve Bannon was out as an officer on a ship when he was, you know, 20-something would in charge the nuclear weapons. I mean, you know, he's kind of had a long life. He knows a lot of things. And he says the exact same stuff I say, because it's the facts, okay? Unbelievable. Now, I'm basically done talking about it.

in. There's a lot more, and as stuff unfolds, I'll get into it more, but I really need now to get into the new big PR push that is going on, that you know, Trump is a police state king and a dictator. You've already heard that, but now the talking point has permeated out into some of

Trump's more recent supporters who are good people and who were in long form talking, and having little sniblets, little snippets taken out of context to try to get public support behind stopping with deportations that are now ramping straight up. They show you a graph from the H.S numbers of the ramping up. All these American persons who I love who've been bitching the last 150-something days that it wasn't ramping up, well, they dismantled the enforcement. So Trump had to go commandeer all these other federal agencies, IRS agents, Treasury agents. federal marshals, ATF, postal inspectors, and had to conscript them,

I'm not going to script you already in there, but had to rotate them in. And so now, what do you see? Trump gets in, and what do you see? You see an explosion. And everybody's trying to freak out about that. Trump always said, we're going to go off the hardened criminals first,

the smugglers, to cut the pipeline off. They got a 96% cut and people coming across the border the highest he ever got before was 94 in his first term A plus on that A plus by the board patrol on ice and then they had to tie the leg off that was

chopped off and now they're trying to reattach it and yeah they're going to be able to steal all the elections by the apportionment in the electoral college and they've got the illegals in all these sanctuary cities being told you've got to go vote

or we're going to kick you out. That was the old thing with the Democrats because they could order the deportation if they didn't. Oh, your first meeting at an immigration hearing since seven years was the average. But the minute,

they all had to get a little government-issued phones. Start with the Obama phones. The minute you don't do what we say, we'll deport you. And so Trump says, eh-uh, eh, okay, you got some illegal alien woman? She didn't have a job. She's on welfare.

She brought two of her kids here, from Mexico or Guatemala. I've got the cases right here. She has two of the kids here that are citizens as their anchor babies. Okay, well, sorry. You're getting deported, lady. You broke the law.

Oh, she's a mother, blah, blah, blah. They criminally rush the borders. The NGOs attacked us with replacement migration with their new permanent underclass. They sign up for all the welfare, and then the NGOs and legal law firms milk them. But they milked them. the homeless. It's cloward and pibbon.

They're collapsing the country. I kind of started there, but after I cover the potential bio-attact they're cooking up, I'll get more into this. We'll take what I just said here and clip it on to what I'm going to continue on with. But this is important. And so,

good friends with Joe Rogan. We'll love him to death. And he's just an example of this. He watches and listens to a show a lot, but later when we post this to X, when I'm going to say, I'm going to send it to him. I'm going to say, hey, watch this when you get a chance. and I'm going to explain to him my perspective, and he respects me on what's going on, so I can get him to not start drinking the Kool-A of the globalist.

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An emergency alert? I want everybody watching and everybody listening to please take note of what I'm about to say, write it down, put it in your notes on your phone computer. Remember this day, Thursday, June 26, 2025. Because I know when I see something bad. and it would take hours to just cover the surface of why I know this stuff. Before the show today, the crew came in and said, have you seen this report? And I said, no.

And then I scanned over it and then remembered who was involved and remembered where it was first set up, its first permutation, and pulled that up in my head. and then I remembered how this think tank group working with others were heavily involved in the original COVID attack plan in 2004. And the National Emergency Act, they tried to pass for national lockdowns, forced injections, six feet apart, masking to create the fear. And they got it prepared and ready. and we're going to use it with Obama, but then they thought they didn't need it.

They thought Hillary would win. They were going to launch their COVID attack when Hillary got in, but not to control her agenda to give her total power. But Trump came in, and as Fauci and others said in January of 2021, he goes, don't worry, or January 27, excuse me, January 27, don't worry the president will be hit by a new pandemic out of China respiratory. We will take control of everything using that.

And he saw Fauci and Holtez's spokesperson and the rest of them. When Trump was president-elect, they said, don't worry, he's going to get hit with a new pandemic. And Hottes, who is a wicked little gremlin, rubbing his hands together and giggling and laughing. and they had the bird flu going and a bunch of other stuff. They used that to kill hundreds of millions of chickens and explode, egg prices and things, kill a bunch of cows.

But, and they hyped up monkey pox, but none of that work. So let me give you a summation, and then I'll get into it. The UN going back 25 years ago began to put out papers that were public. and out of Gavi and out of the different world bodies that are setting up the global medical tyranny, that they would use a disease X, probably a respiratory virus out of China, probably connected to the bird flu, or to weaponize cold virus, coronavirus, and that they were going to use that to bring in a global crisis, get everybody to accept a global ID, global standardization for the social credit score,

for the global vaccine passport. And they put it in a whole bunch of important war games from the CIA with the Rockefeller Foundation and John Hopkins, like Event 201, 2011, that also describes the lockdowns and masks and six feet apart that simply goes off the original plan of the BioShield Program of George W. Bush and tens of billions funding to build bio-weapon labs across the U.S.

The name of defense, four of them in phase one, and to build a bunch of them in Ukraine of all places and some others around the world. So I'm reading all this, and they were trying to pass legislation to lock things down, forced injections, basically martial law. I made a huge deal about it. George Norrie, when his show was, you know, number one, still huge, you know, did a valiant job exposing it. 2004-56, they were having all their big drills, all their big tabletop, televised, you know,

hyping of dark winter and bio attacks and all of it. Defining disease acts. Everything I'm saying is write it down, type it in, pull it up. Bill Gates, saying we've got to have a global government. The virus is in it. And then we now know that they had COVID on the shelf at least five years before, calling it COVID-19, made it Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Big scandal then.

Scientists blew the whistle. They moved it to China. Peter Dasick. Eagle Hill Alliance. Funded by Google, funded by Microsoft, creating it. The vice president. it, Dr. Huff, goes public, exposes it all, gives the information to Congress. Then we have videos from 2019 of Peter Dazick, the head of it, on TV saying, oh, yeah, we've created all these new viruses, and we've created vaccines already to counter them.

We've spliced all these things together. So it's all hiding in plain view. And I'm just giving you the tip of the tip of the iceberg. Everything I say, you can just write down, type it in like the crew is doing. We didn't script this. They just hear me talk. They type it in. There it is.

Okay. So I know what groups and what think tanks and what consortiums are up to. And I know what type of reports are just pre-planning war gaming for pre-programming. And then I know what reports come out in what order right before they launched the attack. So let me give you the summation right now. All the fingerprints, all the signatures, all the preparation we've seen again and again, of them going live with a new virus and a new pandemic and a new lockdown and a new global attempt for UN treaty to be forced through

for global government officially here with a world ID run by the UN and the WHO and all written up by Bill Gates and the CIA and John Hopkins. So they will always, a year before, when they're going to run an attack and not just bioattacks, 9-11, that was all scripted and pre-drills, the exact same thing happening year before. They had a drill of that exactly happening that day to confuse everybody. I think it was a drill. NORAD took control of all the FAA screens, which they can do back then and today more.

And you got the FAA pilot, air driver control reports going. They've taken control of my screens. What's all these inputs? What's real? What's not? Just part of the drill. Up jets flying in the World Trade Center, Pentagon, and the Capitol. But the general didn't follow orders.

And he's told to stand down and had that. hooligans out of the Dakotas, who were on rotation, shoot down flight 93, was going to the Capitol. Again, thousands of data points. My point is, they do pre-drills of the exact same thing happening, and then on the day they do it, they run a drill, and then if anybody departmentalizing government or corporations that actually read it and part of it gets caught with a battle plan, you go, oh, no, no, no, it's just a drill.

So they start doing these big drills a year before, and then three months before, like a Event 201 run by Bill Gates with over 100,000 government officials and corporate hospital heads, all of them getting ready for the exact same thing that actually happens a few months later. So you have Event 201. But a year before, they have the spars with the very same players, very same interlocking think tanks, the Spars 2025-20208 drill with the CIA, John Hopkins, this group involved, all of it. and they talk about Spars, not COVID, and they have the text messages,

they have the Twitter post on what date they're going to release it, and it all mirrors what happened later. They would just change the date and the name from Spars to COVID-19. So they've all got their battle plans. This is 100,000 people. They later admitted that were part of the Spars 2025, 2025, 28, which is really 2020 to 2023, 2024. So you're running a big attack like this.

You've got to have your battle plan. But you can't just be handing battle plans out. Everybody knows what they're doing. Oh, yeah, yeah, hospital heads, CEOs, corporate leaders, all of them. Oh, wait, wait, yeah. And remember, General Flynn saw my analysis that that's dead on. That's what it was. That's what it is.

Formed of Defense Television. Like Pentagon Wargames, aren't just war games. They're attack drills. Well, it's the same thing with this. This is an attack drill. It's a rehearsal of the bank robbery. And of the talking points. And of the lockdowns.

And of saying, oh, the hospital's full. You can't come in. and having actors dress up in hazmat suits and people come in and, oh, there's huge lines. And then people went to the hospitals in Canada, the U.S., Europe, Australia, and it was fake actors, remember? They got caught.

And boy, they'd come sense for you to shut that down. So now that I've prefaced that, let me introduce you to the National Blueprint for Biodefense. This group since 2014, and it simply changed its name from the 2014 group, that Governor Ridd the head of Homeland Security set up to carry out the Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller, CIA,

John Hopkins planning group that's done all the other planning for the disease X rollouts. So this group funded by the big NGOs, by USAID, by Bill Gates, it's all listed, had this drill a year ago with tens of thousands of people on the tabletop exercise, and all these big farm heads of a bio attack linked to the Russians and the Chinese that is released on July 4th, 2025. Then my DHS, Homeland Security, Army Special Operations, Navy Special Warfare connections, all of them for months been saying, we're told, get ready for July 4th.

And I'd say, well, what are you told? They won't tell us, but they say, be ready for anything but particularly a bio attack see they're already getting all the lower level people ready not saying it's staged to them but like oh we've got chatter

and you read this and it's the battle plan for the rollout blaming China Russia the lockdowns the mass death help and here's the key how the government didn't respond right and is discredited they're getting ready to set Trump up

and they blame Russia for bio labs when it's really Ukraine with the Obama bio labs that Bush started but that he completed and he did press conferences about. When the Russians pointed that out, they go, that's alive, but then Victoria Newland in front of Congress, if you're going to say, no, it's true. So you've got to go read this and we'll do more on it. But this snuck up on me because there's all these reports and all these battle plans and I'm glad some of the crews folks sent it to them. But this is beyond a big deal.

And you need to go read this and you need to see who's doing it. And you need to understand that this is the groups that plan the other attacks. And it's all the same players and it's got the exact breakdown of the last events, spars 2025, 2028. That was a year before they released COVID. and then they have a drill two months before. That was a Vint 201. So we need to be looking right now

with the big heavy hitter groups because there's five or six of them, but they all connect the same group. You need to be looking crew and everybody else. It always falls the same pattern generally. It always is the same pattern, but they make change the pattern. They like to do the final drill, the final prep, the final dress rehearsal,

two months before. So let's look. for early May. Let's look for one of the affiliated groups doing a final drill in May. Maybe with the same group. The last one led by Bill Gates. Hotaz will probably be leading this one. That's just a hunch.

The point is, this looks like the previous attack plans. And it follows the same pattern. And you look what the world is right now. They're getting ready for a three-front war to show the last Last attack got blamed on China, and I hate the communist Chinese, but no, that was the globalist. They just moved it over there. They had plausible liability.

So they're getting ready to do it again, and you need to go read this. And John Bound, it turns out, I didn't even know this, it slips to the cracks. Good God. Get that ready. Get that right now. New Old Order telegraphs July 4th, bioterror attack. Holy Toledo. And I'll be completely honest with you.

I've been so busy trying to stop this war and trying to defend Trump. operations and everything. I just, obviously the bioattacks one of their big cards, and I have dropped the ball on this, so I apologize to everyone, and myself and my family. But we've still got a little time here. I don't know. This close up, if this is one of their,

if this is enough heat on them can get them to not do it, but also enough heat can make them be panicked to go ahead and do it. But just six, seven, eight days out, they may have already released it. Oh my God That's what I've been saying While we're busy watching all the war stuff And them hyping up civil unrest

And illegal is getting killed And a false flag there Financial collapse, cyber attack New bio release Hotess giggling and laughing with Fauci We'll get Trump And now here it is My gut tells me

I don't even say It's too precipitous I have friends die, family almost die. I just so sick of these people killing us and they'll have some horrible new shot they've already got ready. That's why we got to stay on air, folks. It's why we got to keep fighting.

It's why we got to do this. You need to go look this up. You need to go look up the group. You need to look it up. I mean, this is the original core group with the plan, Governor Ridge. It's all the same parties, all the same groups. And this is bad, real bad.

they're not going to give up and it's going to be information that's going to expose them and you know the COVID virus they released was real didn't kill a lot of people nothing compared to the shot but everything I've seen they've seen Gates giggling although the next thing will be much worse. Yeah

and he also keeps saying it's going to target children and so is HOTES so just remember all of that when this comes out whatever it's going to be and it's all about the martial law all about controlling the media and all about blaming the government for missing it This is real bad, real bad, real bad.

Our failure to rapidly identify the diseases in people, our failure to rapidly identify and recognize the occurrence in livestock. Ah, is there going to be some weaponized bird for the best release? Our failure to achieve early detection of the biological agent and the failure to identify the source of the exposure in a timely way. are a failure to conduct sufficient biological intelligence activities to indicate an immediate attack oh Trump cut the funding for the where they have fake PCR tests to say the cows and chickens are six and they kill them or not

our failure to eliminate the vulnerabilities revealed during COVID-19 yeah this is like you didn't let us set up a medical dictatorship that's why this happened that that that and oh Robert McKinj Jr., he's discredited in all things right there they said they'd get Trump with a pandemic. They giggled and laughed.

And here it is. This is it. Had a really bad feeling for a while. I'm like, is it war? Is it a domestic terror attack? And then there I am, take an eye off the ball that they always said their ace of spades is bio attack. They get everything

out of that. Oh my goodness gracious. Meanwhile, the corporate media is in full attack mode against Kennedy. All right, let me get into the Joe Rogan thing in this segment a little short one and then the Laurel Lumer's coming on. You've seen the carnage of the open border

the last four years, the National Guard being run over, giant caravan slamming in, UN funded and run by the Biden administration, the millions of millions of people, over a million kids, 300 plus thousand sex slavery, you name it. The total lawlessness, the crime exploding.

And then the Article 3 judges everywhere saying, no, you can't deport illegals. You can't deport MS-13 members. The drug children, the babies being thrown over the wall, This is a war. This is lawlessness. This is chaos. This is the martial law of not following the law.

And then Trump comes in and ramps up enforcement, starts arresting the people that are the actual smugglers. And now they're moving on to all the other illegal aliens. And some of them are nice people. And they work hard. And they're not bad. But they're part of a larger illegal attack and illegal pipeline. and they're voters for the Democrats instantly because they apportioned more congressional seats in those states via the census and in the blue cities and states they openly have the illegals voting. So you're met with a giant lawless assault like this and then, oh, ISIS wearing masks because people are threatening to kill them.

Oh, it's a police state. Oh, this woman was here. Two of her kids were born here, two not. Now they're deporting her. Oh, it's so mean. Yeah, when you get overrun In a UN globalist invasion meant to Bring in a permanent underclass

It's rough And ice I know they're working 18 hours a day Doing an incredible job There's footage I shot through a little tiny Hole in the black paint they had on the window Of just the little kids with no parents Just in Texas, thousands of day

being shipped in just when I was there And just shipped to God knows where Many of them in sex slavery's admitted That wasn't under Trump that they were sleeping on the floor and dirty diapers. It was Biden and it was Obama. And this is the reality.

So there's all that evil and all the murders and all the rapes and all the human smuggling and all the robberies and all the extortion. And that's done by the Democrats bringing in 20 million illegals in just the last four years. And then Trump trying to do something about it.

He starts ramping up enforcement. Still just a trickle compared to what he's got to do and the so-called right-winger's, bitch, he's not doing enough, he's whatever you can. And then Joe Rogan, he's not a bad guy. Here's the stories of people whose maids or whatever are going to be shipped away. He goes, gosh, we didn't sign up for this.

It's BS. No, Trump said he'd do that. And you have to understand that when you're met with a crisis like this, you have to do this. Sorry, you've got to know you can't come here and have your babies for free and sign up for welfare anymore. Yeah, it's tough love. It's the way it is. Here's Joe Rogan getting upset with Trump. Ice rates are nuts, man.

watching this protest on television. It's like... Doing the raids are nuts? The protest... All of it. Yeah. The protests are taking it a little too hard. Well, I don't think if they...

The Trump administration, if they're running and they said, we're going to go to Home Depot, and we're going to arrest all the people at Home Depot. We're going to go to construction sites, and we're going to just, like, tackle people at constructions. I don't think anybody would sign up for that. They said, we're going to get rid of the criminals and the gang members first, right? and now we're seeing like Home Depot's get raided. Yeah.

That's crazy. And that's because Trump said you got quotas that you're fired. All these people that are here illegally, they're all criminals. The priority is on record is people that have committed other crimes. And the Blue Cities are released people

with four or five convictions for rape, murder, you name it, and not even telling Trump that they've been released. So Homeland Street has to wait outside the jails and prisons for them. We're in a criminal. They're trying to bring down the country.

This is a war. World War II, we leveled civilian cities to win. We're not doing that here. We're just saying you're illegal. There's a fast track back, by the way, if they're good people. But your ass is gone. You want a war? You got one.

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And a clip of him saying, I don't think anybody voted to have people raided at Home Depot, yes, yes, we did. Because you can point at these workers and say, well, they're nice guys. or these moms or whatever that had their babies paid for and had them here and her anchor babies. But at the end of the day, it was all done lawlessly criminally.

So Joe, humanize Lakin Riley. Humanize all the other people raped, murdered, and kill. Humanize what they went through and then understand that, yeah, the media is going to sit there and case by case, sit there and point out people that are nice folks that are being deported. Well, sorry. You come here with two kids already. one of the cases. The woman has two more kids. They become citizens. It's all paid for.

She's on welfare. Your ass is deported. They'll deport you in Mexico. You try that. All these drugged up kids, they're bringing across. Trump sues all 15 federal judges in Maryland over their unlawful practice of issuing automatic injunctions to stop deportations of

criminal aliens. So Rogan's being taken out of context. And I understand. I'm hearing the stories people, too, that have people that they like, who are illegal, that are nice folks that are being deported. Sorry. This is all part of a globalist invasion. Tough love.

Compared to the murder, rape, death, sex, slavery, permanent election fraud, permanent underclass, new congressional apportionment with the illegals, immediate new seats for the Democrats. This is a crisis. This is an absolute crisis, the alarming rise of U.S. officers hiding behind masks. The Democrats are saying they're going to come after them. They're going to kill them. It's not a police state. It's the Democrats created the law.

lawless chaos state. These guys are working 18 hours a day. Being attacked, having cinder blocks thrown at them, and fire bombs. And Congress people saying, we're coming out to eat your house. We're going to get your names. Syracuse mother, that's like Maryland man. Four children detained by ice.

She's illegal. Two of the kids born here, two not. Deport them. You got some U.S. citizen here that is family? Leave them here. Meet the D.C. Bigwigs, literally profiting off. Trump's deportations, yes. No one can get contracts for that.

The self-deportation is so upset about. The terrorists who claimed he was banned entry in the U.S. because of a J.D. Vance meme on his phone is actually denied for a different reason. It's all lies. It's all BS. Meanwhile, German police attain polls guarding border against illegal migration and then rising migrant handovers. The police are raiding anybody that even criticized open borders in Europe.

that's what this is all about and Joe can have his opinion I respect his opinion was taken out of context I'm simply saying balance it with all the tens of thousands of murders and deaths balance it with all the drunk driving deaths

balance it with the cloward and pivot and we're going bankrupt because the illegals most of them on welfare balance it with the sanctuary cities that are totally lawless balance it with the giant human trafficking 300 plus thousand kids disappeared under Biden many of them in sex slavery and physical slavery

slave labor balance it with the riots of the illegal aliens and then waving their foreign flags balance it with it being a UN replacement migration plan to bankrupt Europe and bankrupt the U.S. Understand it's a globalist attack. The UN said in documents came out in 2007.

We'll use viruses and take control, economic collapse to take control, and collapsing third world that they've collapsed with the COVID restrictions to flood the West and collapse us. This is an attack. And wars aren't sweet. So sorry to all the nice folks that came in here illegal. Your ass has got to be deported. It was a promise and it's being kept.

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It's Alex Jones. Oh, it's not just Joe Rogan, who I love it as a great guy. There's a big heart. And so many other kind of populist converts to Trump that are saying, hey, if we knew they were going to deport people, illegal aliens from Home Depot, we wouldn't have voted for Trump. So then you would have voted for Kamala Harris that would have kept the border completely wide open with giant human trafficking, including sex slavery of little children. No. You see, that's the choice you've got. The total lawlessness, the crime waves, the illegals getting signed up for welfare, being signed up in blue cities to vote, change the congressional apportionment, more blue seats for the Democrats.

their admitted plan to stay in power and continue their globalist operation. What about Lake and Riley in the tens of thousands murdered by illegal aliens? The people raped and robbed. See, you've got to think about them and humanize them. And they even took that MS-13 leader, it turns out, is a huge human trafficker, and said, oh, he's Maryland man. No, he's an illegal alien from El Salvador. Part of the most violent gangs in the world confirm.

But they want to move on to the next thing. They even take people like that and use them as poster children. So you have to hold two ideas here at the same time. And you have to understand that they are prioritizing people that have a big criminal rap sheet that are illegals. But everybody hears an illegal that's illegal. And Trump's created a plan where you can sign up and prove you're not a criminal and come back legally quicker on work visas. People go, oh, look, he's bringing in record numbers to his hotels and golf courses of people on work visas. Yeah.

And then the super right wing goes, oh, he's a traitor. Elon Musk calling with that. No, they always said make it easier people to come on work visas. We know who they are. We can track them, all of it. And we get citizens that want the jobs back in there. I think we need a total moratorium on the border in immigration because we can't absorb all this. But Trump never said that.

That wasn't his plan. And so, sorry you've been here a decade and are a nice person and work hard. Okay, great. I know that. There are a lot of illegals are nice people. The whole thing's a globalist plan. So your collateral damage in that because he all. alternative is far to worse. Look at all the dead. Look at all the rape.

Look at the sex slavery. Look at the cloward and pivot. Look at the election fraud. The end of the country. It has to be done. Do what must be done, Lord Veda. Show no mercy. The Democrats brought us into this lawlessness. Errol Musk, father of Elon Musk, very interesting person, will be joining us in the fourth hour today. But now, for the next 52 minutes, Laura Lumer On X

Laura Lumer Comptonano the president One of the most censored people in America Censored right there in the first big batch Seven years ago with myself We went to Congress We exposed it all We've been in the trenches together

Been a friend of mine And I said some mean things I get a little emotional sometimes Because I don't want nuclear war And I could see the bad possibilities That were there And I knew they'd lie And you know

Make a big deal about the uranium not being gotten or whatever, whatever the truth is. I just saw the pitfalls. I hope this all works out well. But I wanted to get her on just to talk about all the big issues, not just controversies, not just her and her Carlson fighting. That's not really about Baileywick.

And just actually hear from her. So Laura Lumer, thank you for coming on. It's good to see you. Yeah, it's good to be on. And thanks for having me on. And look, I don't have anything against you as a person. We've known each other for a very long time. and we've been in the trenches together, as you said, for many years now, fighting for many of the same issues and causes.

And I don't think that there's any one person in this movement, the America First Movement, that's going to agree 100% on every single issue. But I appreciate you inviting me on. You know, I forgot to tell the crew to pull it up, but we've had some greatest hits together. Remember you and I in the hearing where they're talking about us and censoring us but won't let us talk? And then the guy, the guy like Porky Pig, the Democrat congressman, starts doing an auctioneer voice to talk over.

You remember that? Yeah, Billy Long. And then that iconic photo, and we, I have it actually in my studio here framed when we chase Jack Dorsey out of the congressional hearing. And then it's like my pink selfie stick and your cell phone. And it's a great photo. Well, yeah, absolutely. I think that. Yep, there it is right there.

And, you know, you were involved in Project Veritas and some of it. greatest triumphs. You've been around a long time. People that don't know your backstory, spend a few minutes on where you're from, what formed your ideas, how long you've been in MAGA, because you've been in there since the very first. Yeah, I've been a Daywan Trump supporter. And so I was the president of college Republicans when I was in college in Florida and ended up getting kicked out of college a month before graduation while working with James O'Keefe, exposing whokeness on college campuses and really this woke, crazy DE culture at our universities and colleges before it exploded into a mainstream phenomenon.

And then I moved to New York for several years where I was working undercover in the Hillary Clinton campaign for James O'Keefe and Project Veritas as an embed across the country in various states exposing voter fraud and corruption and Islamic immigration and things like that. I also served as the communications director for Project Veritas for a period of time when I wasn't doing my undercover work. And then eventually I left on good terms and I started my own media company because I wanted to make my Lomered videos. And this is when I started doing a lot more contributorship work for Info Wars and I would show up

to Hillary Clinton's book signing events and confront her. And I kind of made a name for myself showing up to events where politicians were speaking back in the day. They've kind of closed themselves off now. But it used to be very easy to get in front of these politicians. because nobody would ever confront them. I think you and I, Alex, were some of the first people on the right to really put cameras in the faces of politicians in public. And people called this crazy.

And they said that it was a tactic of the left and that conservatives should have more decorum and behave more respectfully. What they were really scared of was people emulating when you and I were doing because they didn't want conservatives or populace to ever get motivated. And I've also noticed lately an unfair attack issue is people are taking screenshots of you, when you'd infiltrated Hillary or later when you would confront her and her acting like you were a Hillary fan as a way to attack you. So I think those attacks are very unfair. I did see that going on. Yeah, there's always context for everything. It was kind of a inside joke in the Veritas office with James O'Keefe because I had this way of kind of like maneuvering and wiggling in to all these exclusive Democrat events undercover.

And so I would just take selfies with all of the targets that we were investigating. and we had a selfie wall in the office to make fun of the fact that, you know, I found myself in the same room as Huma Abidine and Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, right, exposing these people undercover. Of course, they thought that I was one of them, but really ultimately our investigations is what CNN called the October surprise of the 2016 presidential election, if you recall. And so, look, there's a lot of people that say a lot of things about me.

They say I'm a Saad. There's people that call me. transgender. There's people that say that I'm a spy, that I'm a Democrat plants, just like people say things about you. And, you know, I think that it's very unfounded and it's very easy for people to see that these things are completely false if they were to just read my book or do a little bit of research. But of course, when you're effective, just like you've been effective on many issues, Alex, and when you're ahead

of the curve, and doing this for a long time, people will say things about you to try to discredit you. And, you know, I know things got heated this week in the debate about the conflict, the war between Israel and Iran. But I think that a lot of us who have worked together, a lot of us who have known each other for 10 years, I mean, I had been on the ground with your team in New York covering the presidential debates. And we all have known each other for a very long time. It would be unfortunate for decade-long relationships to be completely burned to the ground over, you know, minor discharacterial. disagreements for foreign policy. Yeah, well, I don't think you're a Mossadegh, as you know, I think Mark Levin probably is,

and I'm not against people that are pro-Israel. I just don't want Israel controlling our foreign policy, but I've never really thought he was an Israeli operative, but you've been critical of Israel some. But what I got mad about was I just saw you like, I'm getting screenshots these people criticizing Trump, and we're going to remember this. And you do this to me, but you said some stuff about Info Wars, but other people were doing it. And I'm like, we're doing it all publicly.

We want to influence Trump. Well, there's some people out there, though. There's some people out there, though, that have never been with President Trump or people that jumped on the bandwagon for MAGA during the 2024 campaign. And what bothers me is just this very two-faced approach where people will, I don't think it's, you know, a problem to be critical. You can be critical all you want. But there were people out there that were calling for President Trump's impeachment, like Dave Smith. I mean, when you go around and you gain a lot more clout for your podcast or your show by deceiving people on the right into thinking that you're supporting Trump or you're endorsing Trump and then, Every chance you get you badmouth him or undermine him.

I think it's disrespectful. Also, a lot of these people will say one thing on their show and then they're trying to get into the White House or they're trying to go to Bedminster, go to Mar-a-Lago. I think people should just be very honest about where they stand instead of trying to be opportunistic or transactional in their activity. And there's a lot of transactionalism that takes place in this movement, especially since the 2024 election where you have a lot of people that are pretending like they've been day one Trump. reporters. And there's people that betrayed the president. There's people that called for him to be impeached after January 6th. There's conservatives that said he couldn't win when he was facing indictments and had his mugshot taken and was facing, you know, felony charges. And the reality is, is that there are some of us who have actually lost a lot, made a lot of sacrifices,

paid a lot of, you know, had a lot of consequences as a result of our loyalty to conservative causes. Well, yeah, I mean, people can say what they want about Laura Limer, because you're Most, you don't spend a lot of time whining about it, neither do I. But, I mean, they have, you've been sued, attacked, de-banked. They tried to indict you. I mean, it's it. You've definitely chewed a lot of dirt in the trenches for Trump. And he knows that.

And they also get really upset about the fact that you guys just answer to this. I mean, you know, there's the big thing. Oh, Laura Lumer and Trump are having sex. All that ridiculous garbage. They're so upset that he loves to talk to you, as you in the White House. Listen to you. Why don't you talk about what your real relationship with President Trump has? Well, I'm actually suing.

Belmar right now for falsely accusing me of having sex with President Trump. They do that to smear women when women are making a difference. And look, I'm not a feminist. I'm not one of these people that's going to, you know, pretend to be, you know, attacked in life only because I'm a woman. But what Belmar did was very misogynistic. He knows that I'm not having sex with President Trump. Yeah, he broadcasted this all over his show, all over HBO, which is why I've since sued them. I had my deposition with them.

Now they just recently filed a motion to seal the deposition. Why would you not want my own deposition to be public, right? He wants to hide his own deposition, and now he's trying to hide my deposition when I have nothing to hide. I was happy to release my video deposition to the public because I'm telling the truth. I've been a supporter of President Trump since before he even filed to run for office. I first met President Trump when I was, I believe, a junior or senior in college in Miami, and I met him at one of his events in Miami at his golf club. And I took a photo with him and Melania Trump at the time.

And then when I got kicked out of college for, you know, creating this ISIS club at my university to highlight the fact that they were discriminatory against conservatives, Republican students on campus, but they had no problem if I wanted to launch a student-funded, government-funded, financially backed ISIS club. I was kicked out, and James O'Keefe was so impressed by the script that I had developed for this undercover investigation that he wanted to try to implement it at other universities. And so we implemented the scripts that I wrote at Cornell. And we released it on Cornell Giving Day.

And we actually caught one of the dean of students at Cornell saying that we could use their athletic facilities to allow for ISIS training camps. The story went viral. It was all over the news in New York. And this was before President Trump had filed to run for president. This was like March of 2015, and he filed in June, right? We just had the 10-year anniversary since President Trump officially filed to run for president. So when he saw this investigation, President Trump doesn't use computers. He doesn't use email.

He doesn't type on any computers. He doesn't even post on his own social media, right? Everybody knows that Natalie, who works for him, is the one that dictates everything. He dictates like most classic CEO. That's what I do mainly. That's when they sue me. They go, where's the emails? He does text.

He does text. He texts. Yeah. Or I text. Yeah. He texts, but he doesn't email. And so what he would do when he was, you know, just Donald Trump of the apprentice and billionaire businessman and real estate mogul, he would actually print out articles and scan them, like fax them over. And so we actually received a fax from Donald Trump at Project Veritas in 2015.

I believe this was in March or April. and he was like, oh, this is great. Come to my office. And James O'Keefe wanted to bring me to Trump Tower to go meet with Donald Trump. Well, what ended up happening is I was involved in what almost became a lawsuit against my college because they were trying to deprive me my diploma, even though I was set to be the valedictorian. And I had already finished a month early because I was in the honors program. And they were debating not allowing me to defend my thesis.

And so I wasn't able to go to Trump Tower because I was. I couldn't leave Florida until my case was resolved. And so then James O'Keefe was able to have a meeting with Donald Trump in Trump Tower in President Trump's office when he was on Donald Trump. And he wrote a check to Project Veritas. And that's how I, you know, began my connection with Donald Trump. So the point is you're a no, gee. And I'm going to spend all down this interesting story.

But I can put a photos of you and Trump together. I think the issue is when people see on TV with him and at Marlago, and at golf courses, whatever, he does get really excited and happy, and so do you. And they see that. They go, oh, God, this is an item. And I know you guys aren't having sex. I know that's true. My point is, and Bill Maher's got his issues, but he's kind of coming around,

that you can just see why people would say that. I mean, why do you think Trump brightens up? He doesn't do that with even most women. Why does he get so excited when he's around you? Well, I actually don't see why people would say that because he is a very friendly person. No, I know. President Trump likes me. I defend.

I defend. I'm not saying that's the case. I'm just saying I watch body language. He does particularly like you. I guess that's because he known you so long, I think. Well, look, like I said, I've known President Trump for over 10 years now, right? I've known President Trump for over 10 years and only, you know, became very close with President Trump. Around the time of the presidential primary, of course, I have met President Trump years prior.

and I've known President Trump for 10 years, a little over 10 years, 11 years now. But I think the president just really appreciates loyalty. He's on camera talking about how he appreciates loyalty, and there really aren't a lot of people who have been loyal to the president. There's people who, to my point, say that they have been. But if you pull the receipts and you actually look at who's been true through thick and thin, I'm one of the few that has been, you know, extremely, extremely loyal. Let's stop there.

I didn't talk to you before the interview. I talked to you briefly yesterday. I knew you were going to get that answer because that's the truth. truth. And that's absolutely, I know Trump loves me because he's loyal, but let's be clear. When I think Trump's making a mistake, I will say it because I'm loyal to America and the truth. I don't think he does things out of bad intention. But that said, I will criticize him. And then the media always spins it. Jones is turning against Trump. That is the opposite. We need Trump. Trump's doing an overall great job. I would horror criticize him, but I think he's

making a misstep or I'm concerned it could be just like Steve Bannon, you know, we'll do. Look, and I'm not saying that you can't criticize anything. I've been very critical of the hiring. I call it a vetting crisis. We've seen that there is a vetting crisis, and I have no problem saying that now. I was outspoken about the plane in Qatar, although, you know, I apologize in the aftermath because I felt like the media twisted what I was saying as a way to try to create this narrative. Oh, Laura Lumer is anti-Trump now, and they were completely lying about what I was saying

so that they could push an anti-Trump narrative during his Middle East trip abroad. But look, I have been critical as well. But my problem is that people were saying, we're in the middle of World War III. We were not in the middle of a war. And there's tons of examples of military actions and strikes that Donald Trump took during his first term that people like you and I and Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens and other people seem to be totally fine with, right? They have no problem with him hunting down al-Baghdadi.

publicly talking about how he killed him and he died like a dog in a very graphic manner, right? Had no problem with the airstrike from Mar-Lago on Qasem Soleimani. They had no problem with the airstrikes in Africa on Boko Haram and al-Shabaab terrorists. They had no problem with the airstrikes in Syria in the aftermath of what they called suspected chemical attacks. They had no problem on air strikes on Russian contractors in Syria. So are those not, is that a declaration of war? Because that's all President Trump did, was he carried out a strategic strike of Iran's nuclear facilities. Lord, Lord, let me respond to that since you brought that up, because now we're getting to the meat potatoes.

Now we can have a little bit of discussion here, which is fine. We're not in a cult. We're talking about it. I got very upset about his serious strikes at first, which at first were actually against the regime, and then later he understood it was al-Qaeda that was being funded, so then he went against him. And I was for that and ISIS. The other stuff, Soleimani and all that, yeah, I'm not a fan of the mullahs. If you can get them, get them.

But that didn't have the huge danger of sucking us into a full regime change, which Israel wanted and which Fox News has been promoting, and which Trump, a few days, four days ago, was like, hey, maybe we should. Because I've war game, but I've talked to top war gamers. China and Russia and North Korea are coming in. This is not bombing Soleimani. This is not bombing Syria. This is Iran.

And my intel is they've got the Fissile material for next many years ago. And so then they'll be, well, that gives us credence to Israel. You're not going to get the material. It's not in the basis. So my point, and I predicted this would become a big controversy. So it's my personal opinion that it's rolling the dice. It's Steve Bannan's. We weren't attacking Trump.

And we were saying it was going to fail. I hope it all turns out great. It might. Looks like it's going okay right now. Hope the ceasefire holds. It's just that I was simply saying this is dangerous. and, you know, he didn't break his promise. He said if they tried to get nukes, I'll go after him.

So he didn't go back on a promise on that. When he started talking about regime change, that's when I really got upset. And then I got called not so much by you, but a bunch of other people, as you know, a Qatari or a Russian agent. It's just ridiculous. No, I've always been consistently anti-offensive war. So is Trump. So go ahead and respond to that.

Look, there were people, like I said, people like Dave Smith, who were saying that we should impeached Donald Trump. There were people like Tucker Carlson who said that Donald Trump is not the leader of America First anymore and that he had destroyed his legacy and that he was pro-war and that he had lied to us. And also I called Tucker Carlson out and I

stand by what I said about Tucker Carlson because I find it to be a little bizarre. You've had world leaders on your show. I have had discussions with people abroad who work in other governments, right? I mean, we've all in media

interviewed people who either live in other countries. You've had people on your show. I mean, look, I don't even know how many foreign leaders you've had on your show are people that live in other countries to talk about the political situation. But you're not in FARA reports for every single one of your interviews, right? Because my guess is that money was not exchanged or your goal for these interviews, Alex, was not for any type of policy change or for the sake of trying to influence U.S. politicians as it relates to a conflict abroad.

I've never taken money from a foreign government. And I don't see your name in Farah. And yet Tucker Carlson, right, he goes to Qatar and he does this interview and then all of a sudden he starts talking very positively about Qatar. When we know that Qatar is allowing for the leaders of Hamas to live in skyscrapers and have protection so that they don't get killed in IDF airstrikes, right? They live in Doha, Qatar, where they and their families are able to go on these luxurious shopping sprees. We know that Qatar

has financed terrorism. It doesn't matter if we have a U.S. military base in Qatar. The facts remain the same. Qatar is a very large sponsor of global Islamic terrorism. They fund Iranian proxies, including Hamas and Hezbollah. And this is one of the reasons why

I was so vocal when President Trump went to Qatar and when they wanted to give the United States a plane. So, you know, I think it's strange that Tucker's name appears in a fire report, because I think of tons of other reporters who have had world leaders on their program. I've got to go to break.

It's a hard satellite break. We're not censoring her. We always got to break it 28 after. We're back at just a few minutes. And I'm not going to censor what you say or do. You can go here if you want. But I'd really not rather get into Tucker Carlson in fighting. But I get your point.

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I'm happy to. A lot of people probably don't know the technicals we're talking about. I guess if you take money from a foreign government, there's a filing about it or something. I think Tucker has great integrity. I know he said mean, things about you, something about him. I kind of just filter it out. Well, I had just called it out because he was critical of President Trump over his handling of the conflict with Iran. And there was a FAR filing that had his name listed, and there's a lobbying firm called Illuminate Advisors, and they are paid, I believe it's $180,000 per month in a three-year contract with the government of Qatar.

And their job is to organize interviews and help them push out their propaganda. And one of the interviews that they set up and organized was an interview between the Prime Minister of Qatar and Tucker Carlson. And literally in the FAR document, it says, Tucker Carlson, point of contact at Tucker Carlson Network, Tucker Carlson. And then it says the purpose of the interview was to talk about Qatar and the war with Iran. And it was basically a propaganda puff piece for the prime minister of Qatar to push out his own narrative about how Qatar is handling the conflict with Iran. when we all know that Qatar funds Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah. So all I said was, hey, it's kind of strange that you're listed in the, you know, in the FAR document. And it kind of suggests that you're compensated for this interview because this lobby fund was paid almost $200,000.

Let me respond now. And I'm not Tucker's official apologies, but I love Tucker. He's a wonderful person. He has incredible courage, a massive, integrity. Fox News is going to back him to run against Trump. He didn't do it. He will bitch it Trump, but he doesn't like it because he's just like me.

And I didn't want to go here, and I'm not saying you're a bad person, Laura Limmer. But I've never seen or never heard that Tucker's paid for what he believes. Obviously, if somebody comes to a country and there's PR firms and people, you're going to interview somebody,

I think a lot of times that's customary on both sides that people get paid to go fly there. I don't know the detail. of this. I don't think from everything I've seen that Tucker is paid by anybody to say what he believes. When nobody in big corporate media

you weren't supporting me, was supporting me when I was being deplatformed. He was. He flew here 14 years ago to apologize to me and say I was brainwashed by neocons. I didn't know 9-11 was an inside job. Blah, blah, blah. I've woken up to it. He flew her just to apologize to me. Okay? And he's been apologizing to

everybody ever since that he used to be naive. So, I just wish you guys would stop fighting. It's no secret that Trump has had Tucker running around as an unofficial ambassador, kind of. And with Steve Whitkoff, he loves Steve Whitkoff. He legitimately thinks these wars are dangerous. He's been anti-war. Then I wish that Tucker would give President Trump the benefit of the doubt.

If Tucker Carlson really apologized and he doesn't hate Trump like he said in his text messages that were released in the Dominion lost it when he said Trump was terrible. He said he hates Trump and he called Trump a demonic force. If he truly has had a change of heart and he doesn't hate Trump anymore and he doesn't think he's a demonic force, then he should know that we voted for President Trump because President Trump is the master of the art of the argument. Sure. In those same text measures, he says nice things. He's been clear that he gets emotional about things. Okay. Then people say things they don't mean. But what the point is is I voted for President Trump because I trust President Trump.

And I trust President Trump to handle the conflict between Israel and Iran in a way that is not going to drag us into World War III. I went to so many of President Trump's campaign events. I covered a lot of the rallies. I traveled with the president on the campaign trail several times on his airplane. And I can tell you, I overall. All I'm going to say is that every single speech that I saw President Trump give, he said, we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon and we have to cool down. the state of the world because we are on the brink of World War III.

And he said the most important thing and the most important reason why he needed to get reelected as president was to stop World War III. So I just think that people get emotional. And you see it as part of that. I agree. I agree. It's from a place of goodness. And maybe it's all going to work out. And I just said there's a lot of dangers here.

I think that's what Tucker said. But just moving on from that. Qatar is like New York City. New York was founded by the Dutch, but the pirates soon moved in. It was the safe haven from the Caribbean for the Spanish, the Portuguese, the British. New York wasn't run by pirates, but it gave them safe harbor. Qatar is a big business. The U.S. is there.

The bases protect Israel. Yeah, they let all these different Muslim groups be there. And I'm just sick, not by you, but by everybody else, this trope that anybody that's against war in the Middle East is on Qatar's payroll. I hear this crap about, I've never been to Qatar. I don't think that everybody who's against war, I'm against war. I don't want there to be war. But my point is, is that if the war is between Iran and Israel, and we are America first, which we are, then you can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't tell Israel how to run their foreign policy and then at the same time say, okay, well, we're going to be America first.

If you truly don't want to get involved, then don't get involved. Okay, so back to Qatar. That's how I personally feel. I don't think that everybody who's anti-war is on Qatar's payroll. I specifically focused on Tucker, one, because he traveled to Qatar. for an interview and his name was looking for. I didn't say I thought you were that. I said other people.

I'm just letting you know. That's why people get pissed off about it. Well, here's what I know. And it's now come out. Tucker took two-thirds pay cut at Fox so he could have one who he wanted and do what he wanted. And they still wouldn't let him have Trump on. They still wouldn't let him have me on. That pissed him off.

I wondered, I talked to him years ago, why do you keep saying my name all every other night? He goes, well, because they told me I can't have you on. So he took a two-thirds pay cut, tens of millions of dollars, so he could do what he wanted. So I think the idea, and I think that's what you're floating, I think it's unfair, that he's on the payroll, because maybe his flight got paid for or something or his hotel, of these people who are trying to, you know, grease the skids to get more reporters there, obviously, I don't think that's fair. I don't think there's any real evidence or history that Tucker is a cash machine or a vending machine you put quarters in to get what you want. Well, I don't think it's fair for Tucker Carlson to say he doesn't know who I am.

We're literally on video, Alex. You and I, when we got labeled as dangerous individuals by Facebook, remember when they called us terrorists and they said that we were akin to ISIS and Tucker did the second talk about it. It was worse than that. It was the second. They said they could kill us. They said that they had a right to kill us. You are not allowed to call for violence against anyone except these 12 people.

And they said, please call for violence against Laura Lumer, Paul Joseph Watson, Alex Jones, Lewis Faircon, and a few others. Yeah, that was like a death warrant. Yeah. No, we got a lot of death threats. And then... By the way, when listeners hear that, Laura, when they hear it, they don't believe it. I always have trouble finding. It was like it was in mainstream news.

No, it's on Breitbart. The only news publication that covered it was mine and Breitbart. And then I actually followed a lawsuit over it. And, I mean, it's just crazy. Facebook started threatening me, telling me that they were going to come after me for attorneys. They put in their rules on their website that you could call for killing us. You're always better remember the thing. What was the headline?

Because I want to pull that up. It doesn't sound real. Okay. It was, I believe the Breitbart article was Facebook sanctions violence against so-called dangerous individuals, designated dangerous individuals. It's on Breitbart. You could pull it up. I know that that's the, because I cited the article in my official. And it was on their terms of service.

Yeah. And then I took a video of it because people were saying it's so unbelievable. Well, I want this beef with you and Tucker to stop. How great would it be if you guys got on the phone, bury the hatchet, maybe you come on a show? Look, I'm willing to bury the house. hatch it with people, but people have to be honest. Tucker can't say, I don't know who Laura Lumer is, and she's the creepiest person in the world.

I think that Tucker would actually find that he agrees on a lot of issues with me. In fact, during the time that Tucker Carlson had his show on Fox News, I remember I was never allowed on the show. I was never allowed on Fox News because Suzanne Scott wasn't just telling Tucker

who he was allowed to have on, but she was also enforcing a blacklist on a lot of people. You were on the blacklist, I was on the blacklist, James O'Keefe was on the blacklist. Pamela Geller was on the blacklist. I believe Ann Coulter was on the blacklist. There's a lot of people that were put on this blacklist. And so I'm happy to have conversations with anybody. But I also think people need to be honest about their intentions and whether or not they had their expenses or their travel paid for by a foreign government. And look, Tucker seems to think that Qatar is a bigger ally to our country than Israel. I disagree with him. He thinks that Qatar All right. Hold on, hold on. We can have disagreements, though.

I don't want to go here. I wanted to have a nice interview just about general and interesting things. Yeah. You went here and I said your state. You can go there if you want, but I rather not. No, you just asked me a question. You asked if I'd be willing to get on the phone with Tucker.

I'm willing to get on the phone with him. He has my number. He told everyone he has no idea who I am, but Tucker has my number. If he wants to talk, you and call me. Laura, what I'm saying is that you put out a tweet, I'm going from memory here on X,

that he's anti-Semitic, right? No, I said that I was getting vibes that he was a full-blown Jew hater. And I did. I said he's a full-blown Jew hater because, look, I've been critical of Mark Levin. I don't know with this idea that, oh, Laura Lumer and Mark Levin are working together. I actually criticized Mark Levin, if you recall, for, I thought it was disloyal of him to side with Ron DeSantis, his son-in-law, who is now, you know, an appointee of the Trump administration. Mark Levin was a never-Trumper, Laura.

You know that. I know. So I called him out for this. And so Tucker Carlson is now trying to say, oh, those people are a danger. Laura Lumer shouldn't have the influence that she has. And she's a very dangerous person. And using the same type of dehumanizing talking points against me that the big tech social media giants used against me, saying that I am a national security risk and that I'm trying to take over the party in the movement.

I am the movement. I'm part of the movement. Everybody watching this show is the movement. Everybody who's been with Donald Trump who wants to put America first is the movement. Like who is Tucker Carlson to say that me or, I mean, look, he's talking about Mark Levin too, but specifically me, that I'm a threat to this movement. I've done a lot for this movement and I've paid a hefty price just like you have, Alex. So I take great defense to that.

I want to shift gears in other topics now. But since you went there and I get your points. I really want you got to. So you're both smart people. I wish this was to just stop. Here's, when you respond to this, here's a brief club of what Tucker. just said about you here it is people jumping up mark levin or laura luma that's world's creepiest human i don't even know where she came from or who she is exactly but she's running around i'm i'm

donald trump's you know defender's it's bizarre champion champion and and i'm and i'm the arbiter of what it means to be for america someone who again has no interest in the united states demonstrated no interest so um i think it's just important it's not a matter of score settling and I don't care what Mark Levin does in his private life. I don't care what his opinions are. Laura Luma, I'm not even really sure who she is. However, if people like that are able to take over a political movement whose stated goal is to serve the United States,

first and foremost, America First, Make America Great Again. If those people can take control of that political movement, first of all, it's an offense against reality and truth. But second, it's really dangerous for the country. When they washed out of the Democratic Party, the same people, and now they're trying to take over the Republican Party. How about no? Unbroken track record of failure,

unbroken track record of ideas that hurt the United States in measurable ways, impoverished the United States, put us in unpaidable debt, killed a ton of people, destabilized the world, caused a refugee crisis in Europe, destroyed Europe. That's a lot of destruction for one group of people

and one set of really bad ideas, the John Bolton's, the Bill crystals. Can they be allowed to take over the Trump White House? No. How about no? just as an American. I mean, I don't really care what people think of me

at this point. I'm 56. You were wrong. Well, yeah, I've been wrong many, many times. I'll be wrong many, many more times. But the one thing I am is sincere. I really mean it. I don't care about the effect on me.

I just don't want to relive Iraq. And I know the people who did it. I lived among them. I defended it. I repeated their talking point. Not doing that again. And we came really close to doing that again because of Mark Levin and Laura Lumer

and the rest of these morons who've never even left New Jersey. Jersey. Like, they don't know anything with the world. That's the other thing. They're dumb. They don't know. They don't know the population of Iran. They don't know anything. They don't know the nations that border it. They just don't know anything. And I'm not making an argument for

expertise or having been there, but I am making an argument for being responsible when you demand that the U.S. military do certain things. Okay, then tell me what happens next. They can't. Because, again, they don't care. All right, Laura, hold your horses. I'm going to give me the floor. I'm going to shove for like four or five minutes. If you had to respond,

here. I know Tucker well. I know the back story more than most people. I'll leave it at that. And he has extreme guilt over supporting these wars and being a neocon mouthpiece. And so he sees you attached to the neocons into Rumsfeld and to Richard Pearl.

I'm not attached to any of the line. I didn't say you weren't. You're going to respond a minute. Hold the horses. I'm telling you that that I'd never bought that stuff and knew what it was was opposed to. That's why I came to apologize to me, literally, 14 years ago. He has a serious issue behind the scenes. He told me 14 years ago about this. So he sees anybody now in the future, in the present, that is connected to that. It's not that he hates Jews. Jews are just part of the neocon movement. Some of the right wing ones. He sees it as a military industrial complex. And his cross to bear to be against that is he just said there. And then he, you know, he got blown up flying out of Afghanistan on a jumbo jet. A bunch of people died by a bomb. I mean, he's

been in the war theaters. He was put by his CIA dad when he was 17 in the Contra jungles. That was secret until recently. I'll just leave it at that. But the point is that he just sees what you're doing and others as, and I don't think you're Mossad, I think Levin is. He sees that as an extension. That's why he's attacking.

Does that make sense? I don't know. It doesn't really make sense to me because he says things that are not true. He calls me a moron. He says that I've never left New Jersey. I've never even lived in New Jersey. First of all, I live in Florida, but whatever. I actually have traveled the world.

And he makes it sound like he's very good with, you know, very, with words and being very mouthy. And he makes it sound like I'm a neo-connor. I'm a Democrat. Who are these people? Right. They left the Democrat Party and they're trying to take over the party. It's like, no, Tucker. Actually, I've always been a Republican.

I have never, ever been a Democrat in my life. I've never subscribed to liberal ideology. I've never been a neocon. I've been with President Trump since day one. Then he says, these people, like what is he trying to say? these people who don't serve the interests of the United States. I think he's being clear. He's saying he's saying massed mouthpieces.

I'm sorry, Alex, but if he says these people and he's talking about me and Mark Levin, and the only two things that Mark Levin and I have in common, because I've criticized Mark Levin, he's criticized me. Mark Levin called me crazy once, is the fact that we're Jewish. I can't help but think that Tucker Carlson is talking about Jews when he says these people, because I don't really have anything in common with Mark Levin, aside from the fact that I'm Jewish. So I do serve the interests of my country.

If I didn't serve the interest of my country, why am I such an outspoken critic of open borders and illegal immigration? Why did I risk my life traveling to Panama and going to the Darian Gap in the migrant camps and exposing highest, which is a Jewish NGO that was facilitating the invasion of my country? Like, why does Tucker Carlson say these things that are obviously not true? He knows that I'm America first and he knows I'm conservative. Let me tell you why, Laura. Let me tell you why, Laura. I was arrested for hopping the fence of Gavin Newsom's lawn to take a stand against Democrats who are supporting the invasion of our country. I got arrested in New York City for storming the stage of Shakespeare in the Park for, you know, actually taking a stand against the incitement of violence against Donald Trump and the promotion of political violence.

I have sued the tech companies. I have had to raise so much money to take on companies like Google and Facebook and Twitter and Apple. Not for myself, but for conservatives in general, filing RICO cases, suing companies for their discriminatory actions against conservatives. And by the way, all of this was happening while Tucker Carlson was working for Fox News. And I will say, never once offered any support, never once talked about me when I ran for Congress, and I was the only G-platformed candidate, never once mentioned anything. So I just think it's really funny that he pretends like he has no idea who I am or what I've done.

Let me just say this. There is no doubt. when he says these people, he's talking about he's lumping you in, and I don't think you're a Mossad agent. I believe you are. You are, you have been pro-America, and I believe you're an American. I think if he's saying that, he believes that. And if the United States and Israel run to war with each other,

I would choose the United States of America. I'm not, I'm not Israeli. I know you, I know you for nine years. I think that's true. He is lumping you in. I think that's fair. The point is that there is a tug of war with the military and deserts complex,

not just Israel, but ally with this. Israel and the Lekudniks that does want regime change in war. So he's lumping you in with that because he is thinking he's doing the right thing. I think that's the issue here. Look, the Iranian people want regime change. He says, I don't know, the population of Iran. You have 90 million people who are oppressed under Sharia supremacy.

You have 90 million people who are forced to be Muslim, even though they don't even subscribe to Islam themselves. A lot of the people who live in Iran, right, they have to have underground churches, right? They have underground synagogues. People are Zoroastrian. You have Zoroastrian. I don't think Jews. I don't think Christians.

You think Tucker supports the Mullahos? So he says I don't know anything. I actually do know a lot. And I know that there are millions of people in the Middle East. There's 90 million people living in Iran who are being oppressed by a genocidal Muslim Supreme Leader, a 12 or Shia Muslim, the Ayatollah Khomeini, who hates America. He hates Israel. He hates the West.

He would nuke the United States if he could. He would nuke Israel and the Jewish people if he could. and he kills his own people. He kills his own Muslim people for things like not wearing a hijab. He kills people. He hangs them from cranes. He kills homosexuals. He kills transgender.

Yeah, but the point is that the Rand Corporation, the Pentagon, say that it will probably get in a quagmire and lose this. And Russia and China, North Korea will come in. Do you understand that? I understand. But I also trust Donald Trump. They said that Donald Trump was going to get us blown up by North Korea when he decided to go meet with Kim Jong-un. They said, oh, my God, he's enabling a dictator,

and Kim Jong-un is going to get a power trip, and then, you know, Kim Jong-un is going to nuke us. They said this forever. Do you remember how much hysteria the mainstream media had when Donald Trump was... Laura, Laura, the media bill that as I was turning on Trump, I was giving my advice, this is dangerous. You see the Ayatollah now is saying he may attack U.S. bases again. I mean, this is just insanity.

And he's working against Trump saying, no, I do have fissile material. Ha-ha-ha. I mean, it's just total cuckoo town. We're almost out of time. Thanks for coming on. I ask you for months to come on. You've been too busy.

Come back again soon and let's not talk about... Look, it's hard. You know, I spend a lot of time during my research and just trying to, you know, investigate corrupt judges and people that are working against America, despite what people say about me, I am America first, and I do have the interests of my country in mind, the United States of America.

I'm not some Israeli assets. So hopefully this can all be put. to rest. I have nothing against any of the Info War staff. I have nothing against you. I mean, I'm looking at a photo right now of you and me in my studio because you were somebody who was an inspiration to me and you helped me launch my career

by allowing me to come on and do contributor work for Info Wars. So I'm very grateful to the crew at Info Wars. I consider them to be my friends. But I will say that what Tucker said was outrageous. If he wants to bury the hatchet, so be it. We can bury the hatchet. I know. I don't think you're an Israeli

age. I know you're not. I don't know how to look at things. I'm just saying you were kind of in Tuckers, you're joining in on that, and he is 100% trying to make amends for being brainwashed, as he said many times. And I'm just saying you're, I don't think it's a personal thing. I will, hey, if I can get a whole, I can get a whole Tucker, obviously. If I can reach out to Tucker, imagine, you know, that would be a huge thing if you guys in an interview. You can arrange a ceasefire between Laura Lumer and Tucker Carlson. That's it.

I will not fire any more ballistic missiles at Tucker, Carlson. All right. All right. I just, I think we got bigger fish or fry. I think we need to

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Absolute America hitter wants to disarm the police, have world government, wins the Democrat primary, and he's all, I'm liberal, oh, I'm going to pass all these anti-free speech laws, protect Jews, blah, this is all part of the globalist clergy plan, like London and all these other capitals run by the Muslims. So everybody's obsessed with Israel all day, which I have big criticisms of.

No, I'm even more worried about. the Muslims. And so all this non-threatening crap is their standard PR. It's a takeover plan. Laura Lumer, closing comments on this. We're witnessing the destruction of Western civilization in real time. And you and I have been at the forefront

of exposing this for many years now, Alex. And unfortunately, the GOP has done nothing to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. This was something that we were told was going to happen during the first Trump administration. It didn't happen for some reason. I'm hoping that this

will be a campaign promise that is, you know, gone through with and fulfilled during the second Trump administration because all of these proxies, all of these Palestinian groups that are chanting globalized anti-fada and causing chaos in the streets of American cities, especially in Texas. They've identified, national security officials have identified, Alex, that the largest Hamas and Hezbollah terror cells are actually out of Texas, out of Dallas and Houston, believe it, or not. So if you're in Texas, you are surrounded by these proxies. And there are over two million Iranian proxies living in our country. And Zoran Mandami is capitalizing on that. He made campaign commercials in foreign languages. He appealed mostly to the immigrant

community, the Indian community, the Muslim community. And he truly wants to turn New York City into a city controlled by immigrants, a city overrun by crime, a city overrun by illegal aliens. He said he wants to defund the police. He wants to completely eradicate ice from New York City. He's not going to comply with federal immigration enforcement. He wants to castrate children by giving $65 million of funds to what he calls gender affirming care, which is just another fancy little term for chemical castration. This guy is trying to destroy the United States of America. He's coming in friendly, pretending like he's an ally of the LGBTQ, pretending like he cares about cracking down on

anti-Semitism and cares about Christians. No. When he talks about hate crime legislation, as he did, he said he's going to put millions of dollars. Most of the budget is going to be allocated to cracking down on hate crimes. That means that he's going to basically be implementing Islamic blasphemy laws.

You're not going to be able to criticize Islam. You're going to go to jail if you misgender somebody, just like we're seeing in London. They elected Sadiq Khan, right? They had an Islamic takeover of London. so many Muslims are able to vote. They put a Muslim mayor in London, and now you have stabbings,

you have women that are having acid thrown on their faces on the side of the street. You have honor killings, you have terrorist attacks, you have bombings at concerts for a little 13-year-old girls. I totally agree. I totally agree. It's for standard operating procedure. Laura Lumer on X.

Where else can people find you and find your book? Well, they can follow me on X at Laura Lumer. My show is on Brumble every Tuesday and Thursday. Brumble.com slash Laura Lumer. My show is called Lumer on Leash. and then you can go to my website, loomerd.com, where you can read my exclusive investigative reports and follow what I'm doing there.

But I appreciate you having me on, Alex. That's why I didn't want to get in a fight with you, and I hope we can fix it with you and Tucker. And by the way, I'd love to come on your show anytime you want. Laura Lumer, thank you so much. You have an open invitation. Thank you. Set it up.

Let's do it this week or next week. I just got Lumer. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Laura. Thank you. Thanks, Alex. Bye. It's crazy.

All right. Very polarizing figure just like I am. Definitely one of the most censored people ever. So she defended me. I like her. I get mad at her sometimes because she has a tendency to infight. You can say she does it what she thinks is right. I just, you know, Tucker's as good as it gets.

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2050 in Russia to their main intelligentsia recently that I also spoke video link to and I aired his speech here but also really thought it was amazing on all the different things he covered and

he's an officer commanding the 19th electronic warfare overall winner, SADF shooting competitions. I mean it just goes on and on. His bio is so interesting. So we've only got with the breaks we have are like 45, 50 minutes to talk to him, so he can go wherever he wants.

And, you know, you can't overshadow the father with the son because it's the father that you get the son from. But I'm sure sometimes he's probably, you know, he's a very interesting person in his own right, always probably gets the Elon Musk questions. But I want to bring up Elon Musk later, but I just can't help it up front. I know you guys have had your differences like any father and son.

But it must just still be amazing to have one of the most enigmatic maverick. sons and you're a Maverick yourself and to just watch all of this going on. It's got to be surreal. And then we'll get into all your views on space travel and AI and

some of the amazing things you talked about when you were at that big conference in Russia. But just, you know, Errol Musk, how surreal is just the year 2025 in general? Thanks for joining us. How surreal is the year being? What is the question? No, no, I'm just saying, what is it?

What do you make of the world today? What's the state of the world? Is it just surreal? Consciousness? Well, you know, in many ways, I see things coming right. I see things moving in the right direction in many ways. Last year, this time, you know, I made a couple of trips to the U.S. last year, I've got a lot of family there, and people were very despondent under the Biden time. You know, this previous administration was basically giving people the idea they have to actually find a place to leave go away from America they were considering leaving the country you know they were semi-grading from California to Texas and so on at least and this year when I went I spent April the whole of April

from California to Texas and the mood was totally different you know I like to say that 80% of I'm supposed to say 80% of the people were very happy or behind Trump. In fact, 100% of the people that I meant were very happy and feeling much better about things and very behind Trump. That was recently. So I'd written some questions last night and, of course, forgot them on the kitchen table. And that was really my first question. Just reminded me, are you optimistic about the future as obviously a few. futurist and, you know, very interesting person.

Are you overall optimistic or are you negative about the future? No, no, I'm optimistic. I would say that the world is waking up. You know, a few years ago, you were a lone voice in the wilderness. Now everybody, you know, takes your word and people like you and they listen because they realize that the things you were saying a few years ago were accurate were true. and now people are much more wide awake and much aware from

and it's not only the older people even the youngsters, the 20-year-olds, the 25-year-olds, the 30-year-olds, they're aware of what, of fake media and they're aware of that they're being misled and so forth and so on and, you know,

there's quite a big divide all over the world and people are aware between those who still don't see the picture and those who do see the picture and the numbers that are seeing the picture now are huge. I mean, even myself, you know, like about before 10 years ago, I actually used to watch CNN. And I would watch BBC.

And about 2015, I seem to remember, looking at CNN and that, I thought there's something wrong with what these people are saying. You know, within myself, I sort of say, wait, there's something wrong here. doesn't add up the things they're saying. And of course, slowly, you know, we all sort of woke up. I certainly woke up to the reality, and so did Elon. Elon and Kimball, my sons, because up to that time, they considered me evil for even suggesting that Trump was a good choice.

And, you know, told me to my face, you know, that I'm idiot. And now, since then, they've changed as well. And they are, apart from the recent argument between the two, the domestic quarrel that was recently between Trump and Elon, they're totally behind Trump, totally behind what's going on. And that's great. Well, that was my first question that I forgot and then you magically brought it up. So I'm very optimistic overall as well because we've been so asleep for so long. Now the awakenings here and all the kleptychical.

Democratic, frozen, stagnant establishments are just in total, total crisis. I really think the establishment should stop fighting the will of humanity's destiny and success and should instead try to align themselves and have a pro-human future. We have this depopulationist, transhumanist, globalist cult telling us you just roll over the future's not human. You've all known Harari. But I see humanity in the 11th hour roaring back from that. and you know there's so many ways to you know go at this but i noticed when you were in russia just like tucker said i haven't been there but have people that have seen go there they say

the city st petersburg moscow the nicest you've ever seen uh just so innovative so clean and they go oh you're russian agents no it's a fact now sure when they were under communism it was terrible and boris yeltsin came here and saw a grocery store and started crying and that's why tucker obviously went and pointed out hey it's not like that anymore just as an example of humanity coming back from darkness, not to paraphrasing, you said that Moscow and St. Petersburg, when you're in Russia, was one of the most, if not the most spectacular human centers you'd seen. Can you kind of repeat or expand on that? Yes, yes. I also, it was my first trip to Moscow, and I had in the 80s been to East Germany

on business, believe it or not, the East Germans, or DDR, it used to be called, actually was prepared to sell things to South Africa at that time, you know. And so I had, let's see that, and it was pretty miserable in East Germany, I must say, although the people in East Germany in those days were absolutely wonderful and good-looking. I'll never forget that. And then now this trip to Moscow, I also wasn't sure what to expect. I expected a sort of miserable airport, and I expected sort of shadows and alleys and weird-looking dark places. I don't know what I had in my mind.

But when I got there, I couldn't believe it. The airport was staggering. I mean, probably one of the most beautiful airports I've ever seen. The service, everything was just so good. There was just no way to put it in any other way. us. I had my, you know, assistant strategist with me, Nathan, Nathan Brown, is a PhD in business and he was with me and he was, you know, we just couldn't believe it. And Moscow is by far the most beautiful capital city in the world. I mean, by far, we're not talking about by a little bit.

It puts D.C. in the shade. And D.C. I always thought was rather nice. And it's Certainly, London is tattie by comparison. Moscow is stunning. It's, it is so clean. And not only that, they seem to have a monopoly on good looks. Everybody is good looking. Every woman looks like a fashion model. I mean, I'm not joking.

It's not like some look like a fashion model. Oh, listen, I've watched raw footage out of Russia under a better than I want to go. And, like, you just see the people, and they're not eating GMO. They're not, it looks like the footage at 8 million. of people in the 50s in the U.S., it's like going back to the future, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's amazing. And the, um, the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the mothers of their children everywhere you look, you know, running around with their children running with them and, and, and beautifully dressed and off doing shopping or whatever it is. It's so, I'm so I'm used to seeing that kind of thing where, you know, small children with their, their mom, running about. And, you know, it was just terrific. I mean, it's, the whole thing is a scam.

The scam, it's a, there's Moscow that you're looking at it. The whole thing about Russia, from what I can see, is a scam. They're bullshitting us about Moscow and about Russia. We have been bullshaded. Excuse my language. It's okay. Russia is an incredibly beautiful place. the food is unbelievably good.

And the prices are like a third of what you pay in the U.S., which I do believe I understand that, because also here in South Africa, food is cheaper. It's about the same price of food in South Africa. But quality, really quality food. And I can't think of a single thing that I could say about Moscow that would be bad. I can't think of anything. Well, that's what's Tucker's point, that Senator Tate. Cruz attacked last week. He said, oh, you're a Russian agent. He said, no, I just went there.

We're being screwed by inflation. We're being screwed by all these wars, globalism, and we're told this is so horrible. But it's like, it's the converse of how Yeltsin comes here in 1990 and cries when he sees all the food because they were literally in food lines, couldn't even get stale bread. And then, and then now it's flipping the other way. And Americans should see this. They should know this. Yes. Well, I can't imagine what Tucker was talking about. although if I look back to the DDR in those days but I sat in the DDR for about a week and the food and everything

it was reasonable it was just a bit tattie in those days the DDR I didn't see the people oddly enough I'm talking about the East German Republic in the 80s was quite the people were very happy that's the one thing I noticed they were always smiling and for some reason I don't know

but now in Russia coming back to Russia now the people were incredibly kind and they would rush up to a person if they recognized me and say you know without any sort of shyness or anything you know they'd say

you know oh I'd like my photo with you and all that sort of thing and yeah a lot of them speak English which helps a lot because they and not only that many of them speak like four languages which is quite amazing and I can't say enough about it

The thing about Russia is a lie. It's a big lie. Incredible. I just want to give you the floor and invite you back again. We've still got like 40 minutes left here. Errol Musk, a very interesting person, obviously. But I want to ask you this question. This is a wild card.

Werner von Braun wrote a book about somebody that from the world, the earth, that sends message to Mars, builds a colony, and becomes the leader of Mars named Elon. and then you've got your son, you're wearing your Occupy Mars shirt. Was there any connection, or did you read that novel? Or why did you name him Elon? And it's just very interesting twist of fate that his name's Elon, and he's already kind of known as the King of Mars. Well, yes, when I was a young boy of about 12, 12, 13,

I was on the Moonwatch team for American satellites, and we had a man who lectured us, or mentored us or looked after us. Jack Bennett, he actually had a comet named after him later on. And he would read us these books by Vernifon Brown and Professor Oberst. The books were written by two people, Werner von Braun and Professor Oberst. And Professor Oberst was Werner von Braun's teacher. And then the books were in German.

But there were a lot of illustrations, you know, color illustrations about, you know, showing you rockets on Mars and lots of stuff. And yes, I did see all that stuff and I did see the term Elon and when my child was, you know, when my son was born, something happened which was quite odd. In the family on his mother's side, there was somebody by the name of John Holderman, Elon Holderman and I'm and some grandfather or something. So I remember the name Elon And then I said, oh, well, I'd like him to be called Elon. So, yeah, that is the connection. Wow.

And then he is the guy with the total focus, is his heart. You're super interested. You're talking about your son. You know, the media tries to say there's this big giant wedge and all this stuff. Every time I see you, say great things about your son. Obviously, you've got to be extremely proud. You've got a lot of their children as well. What is it like as a father to see?

Not as one of the most famous people alive today. I think if we can look back over time, even ask the answer. ancients. If we look at everybody in history, your son's in the top, top 10 most interesting people ever. What's that like as a father? Well, you know, it's great. I mean, we've all tried, you know, in the family, all the males in the family, we're all, we all think we sort of generals, you know, and we all, you know, so we like very independent kind of guys, very, I suppose the term is, you know, upstarts or something. And, um, so. So, but it's great to see what Elon has managed.

I think the words Maverick is not the, you know, Maverick knows his own thing. Yeah, yeah, Maverick. But an upstart's not always successful. You're saying Mavericks. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's called Maverick. And, yeah, yeah, Elon is, we are a family of sort of Mavericks.

And, you know, we all think we know better, which is not good. But, yeah, we are. So as far as Elon's concerned, and Kimball, I, Kimmel, you know, He's also broken so many milestones. I mean, my younger son as well. And my daughter, you know, she's got her own film studio making movies called Passion Flicks. It's like Netflix, but it's passion flick. She makes full-length movies.

She owns the whole operation. It's quite amazing. So, yeah, my kids are, you know, proud is not the right word. You know, they are very pleasing to me. Satisfying. That is fine, yeah. Yeah Yes

Well we need more people like them Like Trump said Oh we need more people like you Alex Well I'm trying There's so much to talk about So you're very optimistic about the future humanity You think we're taking the right fork in the road To use your sons, parlons

Yeah definitely Why are you optimistic Errol Well you know Here in Africa where I'm sitting at the moment I travel a lot, so I'm out of the country a lot of the time for what it's worth, but I am in South Africa at the moment. Most of the, or nearly all the African countries around me have contacted me saying they want to be aligned with Donald Trump. That's in the last, say, five months, five, six months or four, five months.

They've contacted me, written to me, phoned me, spoken to me on the telephone, WhatsApp, what do you call it, Zoomed with me, They want to align with Trump. That's from the DRC, Mozambique, Botswana. I don't know if you know these countries, Namibia and so on. The only country that is a troublesome country is South Africa, where the black government is dead set against doing anything that is in the interest of the U.S. So, but all the other African countries, you know, the president of the DRC said to me a few months ago, he finally said, please help us become a line with Trump, which I did. I sent letters and everything there to the Trump people. And he said, this is what he said, the president of the DRC, he said to me, Trump's a believer, and I'm a believer, and that's enough for me, which I thought was a very nice thing to say. you know well they obviously want to innovate they want into the west just like and they understand it's optimism and then south africa is a soros globalist enclave trying to steal the wealth and but the abricans on average absolutely know trump's a change and they're like hey we and they say and trump does want everybody to flourish and so they're like hey and africa's so rich imagine uh that's one big mistake trump made was making the joke about oh well annexed canada and he helped the globalist

when there. Carney, he's a bad guy. No. Canada wanted to align with us. I get the joke, but that's one of the few things that backfired. The world, just look at all the trade deals. Everybody swung to us overnight. They want a new system.

Yes. Oh, yes. And Mozambique contacted me. They said all our harbors, all our airfields, all our minerals, whatever the U.S. wants, we want the U.S. to have it. And, you know, I send all this information over to, you know, to the State Department there and everything. I hope they respond. And I know they have recently this week responded with the DRC, Democratic Republic of Congo.

And so, yes, so definitely a lot of places are waking up. South Africa is a problem. By the way, Erroleney. It's funny you say this. I get contacted by a lot of governments don't really respond. I've had the president of the Congo contact me saying this. I just forgot Monday saying the same thing. So they really won in.

Yes. Yes, that's right. That would be, yeah, that's right. Sorry, I interrupt. Go back. I interrupt you. You said it. I was just saying that the problem is here in South Africa.

We have a sort of renegade government here that does not care about. the people, their own people, they own black people, they don't care. They only care about a few hundred insiders that are well looked after and the rest of the countries, you know, sort of ambling along trying to, trying to survive. South Africa is probably at the worst place it's ever been. People are happy. At least they're not, there's no racism here. There's absolutely no racism in South Africa. So that's a good thing. You never see a racist incident here. But at the same time, the people are, on their knees when it comes to finance and income.

We've got 63, the, one of the big organizations here that does this kind of thing, they worked out there's 63 million people in South Africa, but only seven million people have a job. So that gives you, you know, some idea of the, of the situation. It's really uncurted all. What is that, 80 plus percent unemployment? Yeah, about 80 percent unemployed, yeah. You know, I was going to raise South Africa because I've never been there, but I've studied

did my wife did college, some college there for a year. She said there wasn't even a lot of racism then. And the average American white or black literally thinks like Nazis running. And I saw black leaders going, these South African farmers come in here, better not call me the N-word. I mean, they don't even know. It's just crazy. No, there's no racism. The racism here, you know, the South African white people, oddly enough, get on very well with black people.

It's my experience. We get on very well together. We understand each other very well. We work together. We employ. Most people employ a lot of black people, I certainly did. And we get on very well. There's never really been amazing.

Unless it's the common. I mean, there is the Kill the Boar group. There's that group. Yeah. Yes, but that's the government group. They are. Using race for control. Incredible. Errol Musk.

Four minute break. We're honored to have you. I want you to come back again. but we've got 30 more minutes. Stay right there. You're literally reading my mind. Every time I'm about to ask questions, you bring it up first.

So I can't wait here. We're going to say next. Errol must. Be sure and follow him on X. Errol underscore Musk. The father of the great, Elon Musk. This is amazing.

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Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. From the Infowars.com studios, it's Alex Jones. You keep saying you've got something for me. You know, I knew about Earl Musk, but never actually read his bio. This guy's like a champion sharpshooter in like military competitions, armored car leader, officer commanding the 19th electronic warfare. And it just goes on and on. IBM programmer, electrical engineer,

would you take an hour to go over all this? We can see what the genes are doing here with his sons and daughter and all their successes. You were finishing up on South Africa and the state of it. And from South Africans I know, they say there's very little anti-white black stuff except the communists and the government and these gangs they support.

I don't mean to bring up a negative point, but it just shows the level of violence that the left and media tried to cover up and the government chanting with hundreds of thousands of sports stadiums kill the African farmers and then saying, oh, God, don't move any of them here. You know, they're going to be racist. But Elon Musk's dad killed three men who would have murdered six-year-old daughter and boiled her head, which is what they do.

So you say it's rare, but it's this group. Who is that? And the fact that you had to do this back in 1998, just a brief story on that is to show that what's going on in South Africa that the leftist media tries to cover up. And how could South Africa be reformed with such a wealthy, amazing culture, and brought back from the brink of total collapse? Yes. Well, yeah, that's actually, you know, that's true. That's what happened.

You know, not happy about it, but that's what happened, yes. Well, it wasn't a gotcha. I mean, we know that what the violence, I mean, it's mainly black on black, but it's also, I mean, massive amounts of whites being, you know, hunted down, killed on their property. This is an example. It was like in the White House a few months ago. They had the South African leader there that's openly saying we're to take the wife's land, knock him in compensation, tells Treby didn't do it. We had the video of it a year ago.

And then he points it to white South Africans in administration. He goes, right, tell them there's no violence. They're like, well, actually, they try to kill us in our families all the time. And so as a microcosm, here's Errol Musk having to defend. You know, I mean, how bad is it? Well, you know, the real problem is that we don't have a police force anymore. We used to have a good government departments in this country, you know, all round, well-run country. But now we don't really have proper government departments.

We don't have an airline. We don't have railways. We have the worst ports in the world. We have no health system, no health care. We have no, the education system has collapsed. You know, so most, the worst, one of the bad things is that the police force doesn't exist anymore. So there's no law and order. You know, there's no one to protect anyone.

So unless you happen to live in a place like where I live, which is we are sort of a more, not necessarily just a white area, but we are a mixed race area, but it's an organized area. And we have private, private, we have three private police forces that people all pay in to have here. The local, the real police don't exist anymore. So if you, for example, if your house is broken into or if your car is stolen in South Africa, you don't go to the police because there's no one to go to. They just don't exist.

Which is what the left does all over the world defunding the police. This is part of methodology in my view. Yes, yes. Yeah, they defunded. And, you know, they pay the police like $50 a month. So nobody wants to work for the police anyway. But, you know, really, $50 a month, can you believe it? U.S. are dollars a month?

I mean. And yeah, so that's the situation that we've got. And so a lot of the people who are on farms and in remote areas, unless they're well armed, they're in big trouble. You have to sit with your weapons on your lap every day, every night. You have to sit with your weapons on your lap. I have had to do that many a time. And, and I didn't bring that up as a gotcha. I didn't even know that. The crew just hands me articles. And wow. And I didn't know you're like a top chance. Sharp Shooters. So I guess that was a bad deal. It's just so interesting. I know you're sad about it. You're not happy about it. You're humanitarian as your bio shows. But briefly, what was the story? What happened? Well, I had a home on a farm that I had two homes on a farm, two houses on a farm that I rented out to people near the city called Johannesburg. And I went, I was between tenants on the one property and I was having it painted out. And I went one evening with my six-year-old daughter. And to see how they were getting on, the painters, you know, and luckily put all the lights on to see, because it was towards winter, it was a bit dark, getting dark quite early. And so I got there about five in the evening. And the paint just left.

My daughter, when I were left, and my daughter wanted to have a run a bath. We used to live in that place, and she decided, six-year-old, she's going to have a bath there. So I sort of let her do. That's what they do. Absolutely. I had an eight-year-old here right now. Yeah, she loves it. I'm taking a bath. Sorry?

I have an eight-year-old daughter. Daughters like, I'm taking a bath. They just decided to do it, yeah. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, so then I heard something in the lounge. It was a big ranch-style house. And then I went up. I left my revolver in the bathroom with her.

And then I went up to the lounge. I found the seven or eight guys there. And they just started shooting at me, just straight off. They just didn't hesitate. Just started shooting at me. And I ducked. I ran back to the. advanced room in the main bedroom and I managed to get my revolver and as I came down the passage I

took him out you know wow so I was reading here you were like to basically a national champion shooter tell us about that no in the military I I in 1960s I won the south african defense war shooting championships over a period of a week from handguns to cannons you know so by way that's well known the south africans are some of the best soldiers that's quite the accomplishment Oh, yeah. No, no. I mean, that particular competition, I've been in quite a few competitions, but I won that one. That was a big one. And I was separated from the guy behind me by about two points out of 2000. So, you know, I might have had 1792, and the next guy behind me was 1719. So it wasn't like I was way ahead of anybody, you know. I was just lucky. What was your military career like? I bet that was amazing. Yeah, I know. I got a medal recommendation and all sorts of things like that. I was quite successful in the military. I was in the military for 11 years.

And, yeah, I was quite successful. And I was a unit commander for quite a long time of 19th electronic warfare. Yeah. Wow. And I used to be in the armed cars. I was in the armored cars. And then they started a new unit. called Electronic Warfare, and as I was an electrical engineer, they asked me if I would transfer. And so I said, sure. So I transferred to electronic warfare, and I learned a lot of things there. I really learned a lot, but it was in the 70s. So technology wasn't what it is today, but we were already able at that time to use a lot of things that later on became quite common. cameras, certain kinds of cameras, you know, video cameras that weren't normally just available

to the public. So it was nice. It was quite interesting. I enjoyed it. Well, too bad for those guys. I guess you got three of the six, but I guess they ran out of the wrong guy, huh? Yeah, I'm not happy about that. I think of it as somebody's child, you know, something like that. Well, I'm happy, though. You and your daughter didn't get killed, though. Well, you know, the police said to me afterwards that if they had killed me, they would have, you know, they would have used her for medicine, you know, for for Muti, you know, what they call Muti, you know, where they eat her, you know. And people don't know a lot of places in Africa, especially central and southern. There's a big thing about eating children. That's a, you know.

Yeah, well, you know, it goes back thousands of years, I suppose, you know, into the past people. you know, had all these sort of weird beliefs and things, and it's still here. So they still have a year. Yeah, the binos don't fare very well in Africa, do they? They think they're magic, so they really want to eat them. Well, you know, apparently, you know, I mean, you know, if you eat something like off the child or something, then you've got magic powers. You know, you've got magic plants. I don't know.

Isn't that a big problem in South Africa? They want to rape a baby if you have AIDS, right? They think it cures you? Yes, that was the thing. If you rape a baby a while back 15 years ago or 20 years ago, then you cured of AIDS. You know, I mean, you know, that kind of thing. It's pretty weird. Well, I would imagine, aren't you kind of Dutch background some?

Yes, I'm about two-thirds Dutch, one-third English. And, yeah, I'm very proud of my Dutch background. Very proud of it. Yeah, very good people. Definitely the best farmers in the world. Oh, yes. No, no, the best farmers. And sending them to you is great for you guys, not so great for us.

In fact, when I was in Russia, you know, I realized the place for these Dutch farmers to go to is Russia. Because they would really prosper in Russia. Take like a duck to water. Yeah, Putin has a giant for eight years now. Organic food initiative to be the biggest in the world. They are now the biggest producer and exporter of organic food. maybe why the Russians look so healthy, but I can talk to you for 10 hours. You've got to come back again soon.

We'll do a commercial free. We only got like 14 minutes left. I'm going to ask a lot of questions, sir. AI, space travel, the future humanity, you've got the floor to address us for the next 14 minutes. I'm going to be quiet. Well, you know, what I spoke about the future was there are four things that I spoke about at the freedom of the forum of the future in Moscow, which, by the way, was described as a far right conference, but I didn't see what was far right about it. We spoke about increasing living space for families, and we spoke about the dwindling population of the European populations, which is very worrying.

You know, like Italy has a replacement factor of 1.3, which is kind of over the top, low. I mean, it's terrible. Anyway, I spoke about longevity. I spoke about space time travel. I spoke about gravity. I spoke about fusion. As far as longevity is concerned, longevity is the length of a human life, supposedly, what the longevity is of a human life. Now, before the first rule, of all.

The globalists is their whole secret project you're obsessed with us. I don't want to interrupt it. Yeah, that's the big, big secret is live extension. Yes. So there's an enormous amount of work being done, successful work, amazing things being happening, especially in the United States. And a lot of it's being led by China, by scientists in China, and they all work very closely with the people in California. They work like, you know, handing glove with each other. And I was the longevity clinics in California.

And when I was there, I was actually at a clinic. And I said, I remember reading about, at this particular clinic, a longevity clinic, I said, I remember reading about Dr. Craig Fentner, who actually met the first genome. and they said to me, well, if you turn around, he's standing right behind you. Wow. So I turn around and there's this guy. And, you know, and he mapped the first genome. So with longevity, what they can do now is,

first of all, let me say that before the First World War, the average lifespan of a European woman was 39. So you were likely to die around about coming up to 39 or just after 39, around about 39. And it's now, at this time, it's something like 87. So it's more than double the longevity or the lifespan expectancy of a European woman. And so this is clearly a lot of things have happened. Of course, before the First World War, people were living on potatoes.

They ate potatoes for breakfast, lunch and supper. you know and so we've we've changed things in the world so much in the last 100 years and you know you can walk into a convenience store and buy vitamins now i mean you can go into your quick shop at the gas station and buy vitamins and that's that's really great and so the idea of the longevity people and these are all guys with you know masses of qualifications all doctors PhDs and double PhDs and all that sort of stuff. And they, you know, are saying that the length of a human life should be about 120 years. And that this is what they are aiming at. And that's not pie in the sky. That's what the telemere show. Yes.

Anyway, so, you know, this is quite interesting. And so this week, you know, the clinic in California contacted me earlier this week to say, would I be, they've done one guy, Dana White or something, and would I be interested in being a free I could get this treatment free or what are they going to do? They can look off to me because they figure

a test subject. Yeah, they could make me a test subject. They asked me if I want to, and they were very nice about it. They'd be incredibly nice people, and they're in Palo Alto. And so they asked me if I would be a test subject this week for because they figure that I should be able to live to 120. So, you know, I said that's really nice of you. But I haven't quite said yes yet, but they haven't pushed me yet, but I probably will go over there shortly and speak to them.

But anyway, the idea is that you can have your genome mapped. And in China today, you can have your genome mapped for $100 in, in, In LA, in San Francisco, it's $1,000, which is quite a lot. But in this country, it's about $2,000, so that's a lot. I had mine map by one place, and for like 5,000, six years ago, there was like $1,000 last year. And literally, it was the same thing from two different companies. And I did what they said. They could tell what I was absorbing when I wasn't.

It changed my life. People say, why, I lose so much weight. All this, a biggest thing was I did what the genomic thing said. It was all just supplements. It's amazing. It's amazing. Yes, yes. Well, you look terrific. And you really look good.

But anyway, so that's the same thing that I'm talking about. And so they want you to start your genome mapping at the age of 14. They say people should start at the age of 14, and then they can see what you predisposed to and all that sort of stuff. So that's longevity. And then I also spoke recently about gravity. The fact that we go to the movies and we see a very big, vehicles, you know, in these modern movies, you know, moving about in the sky, going up vertically and going up to the space station or, you know, floating about around the skyscrapers.

And we just take it for granted. Well, that's never going to happen unless we can conquer or understand or use gravity for our own purposes. And so we need to do that. We talked about that. They've conquered that. He's at his head scientist to say that, do you think that's hyper true? I've heard from my Pentagon sources, they've got gravitational control now. Well, I don't know about that.

If they have, they will become the most, that will be the most powerful country in the world if they've managed to do that. Because you ever... Yeah, Elon won't need 33 or 36 booster rockets to get payloads in space. No. No. And that's the whole point. As I've said to Elon, you know, rockets have their uses, but in my opinion, traveling in a little capsule for a few months or six months or 18 months or whatever it is between Earth and Mars. forget it people can barely go across the Atlantic in a little boat without wanting to kill each other

you know they just crack because the dangers and the daily monotony and the and the daily danger gravitational control we can literally have a whole city built and just launch it well anyway so coming back to this gravity if we have to start now a hundred years ago the mathematicians a hundred years ago around the time of Einstein Mankowski and the various ones Hardy in those days, they were all talking about and writing paper after paper on space time travel and overcoming gravity. And for some reason, and there's hundreds of these papers, and this was 100 years ago, and for some reason it was all laid by the side and left and not worried about. And we need to get back to that. Whether the secret government departments are doing it, I don't know, but we need to get back to that.

we need to, it needs to be done by private enterprise, then it's probably done. And once we do that, then space time travel would be moving from Earth to Mars in an instant. If you don't travel through space, you travel through space time, which is different. So we talk about light leaving a star far away and it comes to us after four years or after a million years, this little photon of light and it leaves a star and it battles its way through space. space according to the scientists, and it goes for a million years. You're talking about full space. And just be clear, Max Planck in the 1880s created the equations for atomic weapons that

then were later picked up and done. So what you're saying is, which is true, they have the computations that this is doable. So why did it get frozen and shut down? Because it's disruptive technology by the elites. Clearly, if the equations prove atomic weapons 60 years before they were developed, then theoretically we can do this. Yes, you know, Mekowski said it's all in the math. It's all in the math.

It's all in the mathematics. And Mankowski insisted it's all in the mathematics. And if you take the mathematics for a moment, you know, before 1905, all the scientists in the world, I know this is what I'm going to tell you now, it sounds absolutely impossible to believe. But all the scientists in the world believed before 1905 that the sun was a big lump. of coal. And it was burning up. Yeah.

It was a big lump of coal burning up in the sky. And scientists, if you went to university or something, and you were taught, you were told the sun was a big lump of coal. Some people had versions of the coal

imploding upon itself and things like that, which they never quite understood what that meant. So the only concept in science, the only concept in science has changed. Yes. Well, you know, in 1900 they said also, the scientist said we don't need to do any more research because we know everything.

That is in 1900. But anyway, so before 1905, the idea was that the sun is a big lump of coal. And if you wrote your examinations at the university, you were supposed to say, when they asked you what the sun is, you were supposed to say, it's a big lump of coal. And then you've got a mark, you know, you've got a tick. and anyway then along comes a guy who couldn't get a job as a lecturer because he only had a second class

university policy in physics and he got a job in a patent office and he had plenty of spare time I started using his yes he started thinking about it and he worked out he wrote up his two pages then he took it to

later actually first he took that the first pages because of the last equation he had didn't make sense to him. It said E equals MC squared. Energy is mass times the speed of right squared. And he sent it to Heidelberg University because he was a friend because he didn't have money for a postage. And this changed the world. It threw the world upside down. And Minkowski turned that into full mathematics. And then they realized after 1905 in the months that

followed that the sun's energy is actually energy generated by mass, losing some of its mass and turning into energy. And so I mentioned that because, you know, as you just said, the only thing that's important about science is change, change. So when they say this is the furthest we can go, that's not true. It will keep on changing. And they say, for example, the speed of light is the fastest speed that in the universe it's what we think it is at the moment, but it's not.

So that photon that I was telling you, in reality, in space time, it leaves that star a million light years away, and it reaches us instantly. From the photon's point of view, it reaches us in the same moment that it leaves that star, if you understand. It doesn't go for a million years through space traveling along all by itself. We see particles jumping in and out of the dimension. Yeah, it comes through space time. It's very difficult to understand, but at any rate, in due course, everybody will understand it. And then the other thing I spoke about was the fact that we need to accelerate our study of fusion, because fusion is unlimited energy and it's clean energy.

It's the sun's energy. It's the same energy that you get in the sun. So fusion, hydrogen into helium, we need to accelerate that process. We need to not hand it to governments and government places like CERN, private companies must start finding out because government concerns are just interested in getting their grants extended and things like that. They're not hungry. They're not hungry enough.

Elon makes a success of things because he's very hungry. And being hungry makes you think harder and work harder and do things quicker. That's what I would say. So we need to accelerate the drive towards fusion. The country that conquers fusion, the science of fusion, will be the leading country in the world. Absolutely. China is leading publicly. We know the U.S. is pressed it as a disruptive technology.

Errol underscore must. Ariel, this has been an amazing interview. My show's over. Promise me in the next few weeks, whenever you want, let's do a commercial free, deep dive for like an hour and a half or more, please. Okay. Thank you. It was very nice meeting you. It was great talking to you. Thank you so much. I'm going to get my producer.

Give you my number. Hopefully I get yours. I would love to talk to you off air. And I'd love to get back on. Very impressive. God bless you. And thank you for being with us. You're looking really good. You're looking good, too, brother. And thanks for your son and everything else you've done. All right. Owen Troyer takes over now.

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