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Episode Date: March 25, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:17 Tomorrow's News Today. The gentleman, you're going to get information that nobody else has figured out. And because of a lot of research, a lot of experience, and also the fact that Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic, about 14 years ago, wanted to come interview me. And he's the famous globalist Israeli operative that worked at the famous Israeli torture prison as a head jail guard. that's where he started out. Nice guy. He wanted to come interview me. And 14 years ago, I still did some interviews with the mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I haven't done them in six, seven, eight years. I just don't ever do it anymore. Because they're all just corporate spies or MI6 or CIA or Mossad every time. And when he came here, he basically wanted to interview a few hours and he wanted to go to dinner. And I went with him to there. He was super paranoid. He's super scared to me. And he just went ahead and said,
Starting point is 00:01:26 what agency do you work for? And I said, I don't work for anybody. I'm independent. He goes, well, that's not what we hear. And now I realize that was right around the time Obama did a national security order on me that we got five weeks ago for the Trump administration, and now we have an FBI agent
Starting point is 00:01:43 high-level whistleblower, Kyle Sarifan coming in, who was able to look at the document coding and tell me that there's literally hundreds of other files and that it's a high-level national security threat like I was G-G-G-Ping or something. And that ties into all of this, but the guy is a definite master spy, and those guys are in all the agencies. I mean, I would say he's got the cutout. Definitely, it was Mossad.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And before that, shin bet, that's my view, my research view of my approximation. and then he's got a heavy CIA and he told me basically. He said, no, I've sworn allegiance to America. I work with the U.S. government. And he says, you can tell me who do you work with. And I said, dude, and that was the same thing when they did all their lawsuits later.
Starting point is 00:02:36 They just kept asking depositions, who is in charge? Who is your boss? And I kept saying, I am. I am. But these people are all puppets, so they just can't believe that an independent person has hurt them this bad. It's how it always works in history, you dumbasses.
Starting point is 00:02:56 So I know what's going on with this big Intel leak scandal, nothing burger, garbage. And so if you look at these articles, how does all this tie together? Overhead shot, please. I have five stacks here with all these video clips. What does the great fake child trafficking epidemic have to do with the Trump administration accidentally texted me its war plans. That's Jeffrey Goldberg.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And tied into Millie, giving the top Chinese general the U.S. battle plans, tied into Steve Jobs' wife. Oh, it has everything to do. So this is a direct attack, and this has got Volt 7 written all over it. And that's CIA spoofing of addresses and information. and they're trying to pass a law, well, administratively,
Starting point is 00:03:53 it's been blocked by law, but they're trying to get through in Australia where the government there can break into your profile or into your chats and poses you, even frame you, and that's why we're getting responses from the head of the NSA and others that, well, it's not clear.
Starting point is 00:04:08 We didn't have him in the list. It was somebody else, but how did he get Senate? Come on, people. When Biden ordered all the federal agencies to use signal, And everybody thinks signals so good and all these other people, these journalists, and I always want to use it. And I said, it's more spied on than anything else.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I mean, the government, the U.S. government tells you to use it. That's because they're the criminal group above it, wants to make sure it's got back doors to everything. Holy mackerel. Now, what they wanted to shut down was telegram they didn't control, and now they've arrested the leader of that. I'll explain it all and come back. But if you want the facts of what's going on, this is it.
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Starting point is 00:05:45 Find this and more patriot apparel and other incredible supplements at the Alex Jones store.com. From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones. Start of the 6th,000. 64th day since Trump got inaugurated on January 20th, 2025. All right, ladies and gentlemen, they have ongoing incendiary hearings in the Senate Oversight Intel Committee,
Starting point is 00:07:37 and they are attempting to launch a new hoax, not that Trump and his administration are Russian agents, but that they're Chinese agents and that Elon is a Chinese agent with no evidence. A week ago they launched the hoax that Or six days ago they launched the hoax that Elon was going to be briefed on the secret battle plans against China That was completely made out. That's been confirmed. So that's disappeared. And then next, yesterday afternoon, Jeffrey Goldberg, a known Israeli operative at the Atlantic, the Epstein publication, literally.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I mean, it's the group that sits above that. Steve Jobs' widow owns it. He comes out and says, oh, I was sent secret war plans. Houthis that are out of Iran and against Israel and United States. And then the Trump administration scrambled around and the head of the NSA and others said, well, we don't see him listed in this feed. And Trump just said, hey, let's just own it and say, we learned our lesson. let's move on.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But Trump, quite frankly, doesn't understand how this Intel stuff works. So Goldberg visited me once, back when I was still do corporate interviews. I phased about the last six, seven, eight years. Last one of it was with Megan Kelly. You saw that turned out. Total disinformation. Total hit job.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And that's a whole other subject. Why is the Trump administration, you know, even talking to people at all so they can claim this stuff? because they just talk to you in corporate media so they can misrepresent twist and lie about what you said. That's why you should never talk to them other than F you. That's what I said, and what Tucker sends them. So when I say it's my opinion,
Starting point is 00:09:38 Jeff Goldberg is a Mossad slash shinbat CIA, it's also my opinion that Mount Rushmore is made out of stone. It's my opinion that the Atlantic Ocean is made out of saltwater. It is my opinion that the sun is hot. He was a high-level jailer, jail guard, at the famous Israeli torture prison. He's hooked in at the highest levels of the editor of the Atlantic, which is the globalist Mossad, CIA, Talking Point crossover group.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Only the Financial Times of London or the New York Times, and that's only some of their writers are as important when it comes to the mouth of the new world order. And so Goldberg, right around the time I was being, we now have the secret documents that are public, listed as a national security threat by the Obama administration to be investigated and to have QMET try to infiltrate our operation. And we've got more with the major FBI whistleblower, Kyle Seraf, in studio today, on the documents we got five weeks ago from the Trump administration. and he can use the codes on the documents to tell us a lot more and about hundreds and hundreds of other documents that shows in there.
Starting point is 00:10:56 He shows up, doesn't want to do an interview when he gets here, basically. He says, I'm not really here for that. We want to know who you work for. The reason I'm telling you the story is it ties into all this. And I'm like, what do you mean? I mean, I just studied politics in the world. I'm a popular show. He goes, uh-huh, well, you know, administration, others want to know of your Dane.
Starting point is 00:11:18 dangerous that they were trying to figure out who you work for. And we now know of this big FBI investigation that that's what they were trying to find out then that's been open for 13 years. Ongoing until Trump discovered it. He didn't find out about it the last administration. They kept everything's here from him. And this is obviously part of that because that was the questions at all. I knew what he was doing when it happened. I talked about it days after.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I said that guy's a Mossad or CIA, probably both. And now I know a lot more how this stuff works. The real spies are in at all. It's just the same group at the top. That's why you got CIA Mossad, all of it with JFK, it's all just tentacles, heads of the hydra. And he goes, well, let's go to dinner. And he's super nervous at dinner and just absolutely acts like I am a 40-foot-long
Starting point is 00:12:08 king cobra about to bite him. And I'm just sitting there relaxing. And I'm just like, so you're basically, yeah, we're here to see how big a threat you are. And come on, you can tell me who you work for. for. And, you know, he'd be interested in working with you, maybe. And of course, I had much bigger offers before that and after that from at the time of the richest guy in the world. That was an off-record meeting, so I didn't, I never give the details of it. But it wasn't Elon Musk at the
Starting point is 00:12:35 time. And now that billionaire, you know, claims he's buddies with Trump and being a nice guy. He might own a big newspaper in D.C. I just said, so you don't see him ever deny that, do you? No, It's not. Top Republican law firm, top Democratic law firm, meeting two days long. Actually, one was two days, one was one day. It was two different meetings. But I didn't go the second time I sent a representative. And they said, you're going to be massively sued.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You've seen the PR campaign. That's just beginning. If you don't come work with us, 50 million a year to you alone, and you'll run a whole news organization. But we'll tell you what to say and do, you know, to help people. We're going to, you're going to have bad stuff happen. And you saw what happened. that. And it's all CIA, PR firms doing that. And MI6, you know, they fund Massa funds them to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 They fund Mossad to do it because it's outside congressional oversight. And I told you this for years. It's all in the congressional hearings just last week again, targeting Elon and Trump and MI6 and the rest of it. So I know Jeffrey Goldberg, and I already knew about him and knew who he was. I knew how important the Atlantic was. So when I see this pop up yesterday, and he's like, oh, I got sent secret battle info on this group chat on Signal, and what are they doing using that? They shouldn't be using it. And, oh, about an hour before the strikes,
Starting point is 00:14:00 I just sat back and I went, you know, in Vault 7, released by Edward Snowden, and that stuff's old information, it's all about the CIA breaking into computers, breaking into chat rooms, breaking into things like Signal and spoofing you and misrepresenting to plant different things on people and set them up. Child porn, say you're posting national security documents, all sorts of examples. And that's what Piss Snowden off because they were trying that people he knew. And then you've got famously Biden ordering right when he got into office all the U.S. government intel agencies to use Signal. And that's all these other reporters that people said, oh, it's what the government uses,
Starting point is 00:14:44 shouldn't use it. I'm like, I'm not hiding anything. I guarantee you a regular phone call is less listen to than signal. Everybody's saying you signal. Then when Biden said you signal, I'm like, are you insane? And I still, people still send me stuff. I still talk to them, but you hear everything on air that I say off air other than I sent Chase and Kaiser and Harrison Smith up to the Tesla thing when there was a bomb there yesterday. I didn't announce when they went, because I didn't want crazies coming after them. They just went live from there.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But, I mean, other than not announcing something for security until it's already done, everything is here on air. You know, that's the superpower. That's, it's called straight shooting. See, I'm not trying to use deception. My motto is, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:35 not by deception you will conquer, like the Maasad. And Pompeo, you know, saying, oh, yeah, well, they turn us the lines, cheat and steal the CIA. Hey, ha, ha, ha. So, truth and light and openness is the power. Not, you guys have chosen to creep around and lie and steal and do all that. That's not, that's your willhouse, not mine.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And so, and my word, that's very important to me. But this stuff's now crossed into the criminal zone. So I'll meet with globalists and have quite a few times. off record as long as nothing criminals proposed. But now you just noticed I started coming out and talking about the rich guy trying to buy me off. And now he knows involved in all this. So, I mean, I mean, within the next 48 hours, I'm just going to bring all this stuff out. Because it crossed the line now.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I have enough proof. And it's just all tied together. And we're going to release a lot of stuff. So get ready. So. And I've told these people this. We know you'll have off-record meetings. I'm like, as long as you don't.
Starting point is 00:16:55 commit crimes or ask me you to involve. It's like in the Sandy Hook mediation about a year before the fake trial in Connecticut, I was already found guilty. I'm up there with this federal judge in this tall building in Connecticut,
Starting point is 00:17:12 Norm Pattis, Josh Koskoff, the head of Costco and Koskoff, Democrat Party saboteer group. And it's me. And he just says, have you seen the Godfather movie. Yeah, you know who the mafia is, right? He goes, yeah, well, we're the mafia around the state.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And so I'm going to leave here and talk to Norm outside. He's going to talk to you. And that's the way it is because you'll never, and I said, I already know your crooks. He said, fine. He goes out, they talk and then the car, Norm's like, yeah, they want you to stop talking about the Second Amendment. And I said, let me guess. And there's a larger list. Yes, they'd like to meet with you. And they said, you know, but you can't talk about this. It's off record. And then Texas did the same thing, the same one, Sue and Elon. It's all the same group with Paul Weiss, the group Trump just sanctioned for lawfare.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Find them 40 million. He shouldn't even let them back in there with their intel clearances. It's all run by them. And Hillary Clinton and all that. And it came out, they were behind it. And Bloomberg put money in to do it as well. They did fundraisers off my name saying I was harassing him to raise him more money to harass everybody else's free speech. So it's an intel operation.
Starting point is 00:18:18 FBI is involved, DOJ, it's all come out in court. We have more documents. We haven't released yet. We're going too soon. But it's all coming together. I just keep adding more to it because this is incredible. I've got a very clear picture now. I mean, it's incredible what we got.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And this ties into the intel hearings. I'm just explaining it. And then later they call my lawyers in Texas, in a joint conference, and say it all again. My lawyers are like, wait, this isn't off record. This isn't a sealed deal. So then my lawyers go, now, you can talk about it now, but they said mediation. Because they just said it. And then they said in court later.
Starting point is 00:18:53 that they want me to quote, agree, not to talk about certain things. And that does it just mean Sandy Hook, that I barely even never talked about it. They just made up stuff I did to them to play victim and raise money and then sue me and all the rest of it. It's what they do. It's PR. It's psychological warfare. So, and I've only told you a small percentage of it just because of the time would take hours to even get into the basic details. It's insane. I've been living it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So instantly, with all information of Jeff Goldberg, top spy, CIA, massage. in my view. Definitely former prison deputy warden at the famous torture center. That's when he was a young man. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 That's where he did his tours for the Israelis. I mean, we're talking bad guy, in my view. Very arrogant. Let's put his picture up. So, and right after he came here, I said, yeah, the massages came to visit me, this Jeff Goldberg guy.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I mean, I've told the story probably 20 times over the years. and so he basically admitted we've been trying to find out who you work for and I go, who? He goes, well, you know, I mean, Obama wants to know if you're dangerous or not. He was like, you're not recording me, right? I'm like, dude, obviously you're not here for an interview. You said you were.
Starting point is 00:20:11 You just want to meet. I was like, well, we could work with you, you know, we can be friends. And Obama later sent a big famous reporter saying it was for another big publication. They did publish that article. and the guy got on his knees and said Obama really loves you. This was last year of his administration, about a year and a half. He really wants you to come meet him. I mean, these people are crazy, okay,
Starting point is 00:20:37 because they're so used to everybody selling out. And I'm standing there like in Team America, and it was literally the guy was licking his lips. He wanted me to pull my dick out. I mean, I'm not talking about Goldberg. He's another guy. These people are nuts. So, he didn't say that, but he's like, I mean, what do you want?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Well, anything you want, anything you want. I'm just like, okay, well, you've got your interview now. So, and I didn't take the offers. So you've seen what happens. Carl Serafin will be here later to tell you about the national security investigation on me as a terrorist and as a top national security threat. I'll show you the FBI documents, but he's got even more. Because he knows how to read them and what the codes say.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And unless you've been an FBI agent of his level, you wouldn't even know this stuff. So he's coming in third hour. So that's just the tip of the iceberg. I have so much data. So instantly, you have the head of the NSA, Waltz and others saying, I don't even know how he got in there. He wasn't even, if you don't think the CIA or the Mossad, and you have the Biden administration, telling people that you need to use signal, that's because it's Swiss cheese, they control it. And they want to watch all their agents and all their people communicating, just like William Benny, the head of the NSA technical,
Starting point is 00:22:09 the actual head of running it, not the political head of it for many years, top mathematician, world-renowned, been on the show many times. 200 IQ. He said, no, no, no, no. In the late 90s, they built back doors into all the NSA systems for the private contractors and politicians and others when they get out of power. They could still go in and use it, and there'd be no record of them spying on everybody for espionage,
Starting point is 00:22:36 for economic reasons, for personal reasons. That's a true story where Snowden's boss was watching him over the laptop, argue with his wife, have sex with his wife, and then he goes in to meet with the big NSA-CIA controller, because they're all in multiple agencies that level. And he's like, you know, I noticed your wife was saying this. You really ought to, he went, oh, my God, you're watching and listening. He's like, yes, I'm recording it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So they're perverts, people. deranged lunatics. And Snowden was like, that's it. You're watching me screw my wife. You're listening to our arguments. Her talk about her mother. So that's what this is all about, is this ruling class of bureaucrats
Starting point is 00:23:25 and their financial controllers doing whatever they want. Jeffrey Epstein Island and all that's the tip of the iceberg, literally. So Trump just knows to cut it off so it doesn't become a scandal. He's smart in this area. They're not sure what went on, so they say something that isn't right. Now they say they've lied, and now it's a new Watergate thing. You need to say, hey, that's a whole other area how to respond to this. Hey, General Millie called up the top Chinese general and gave him the battle plans.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Totally illegal, treason. It's purposeful to, quote, accidentally send a reporter your group chat about, yeah, we're about to hit him in one hour, been hitting him for weeks before that, just a bigger hit. It's up to the reporter, supposedly a good American. plus we're fighting for his precious homeland and, you know, his folks, Israel. But that's how Israel treats us. That's how Jeff Goldberg treats us when we're paying for it all and doing it all constantly. You know, go ahead and just stab America in the back again.
Starting point is 00:24:24 That's what Jeff Goldberg does. You know, and Trump had his election stolen from him. He tried to call not yet in Yahoo for a week. Not yon would even call Trump back. And he congratulated Joe Biden. And I'm not into bashing Israel for Israel's sake. I bash Israel on real things Israel does. It's like I bash any other corrupt government.
Starting point is 00:24:41 But they're not a sacred cow that's above reproach. But they're also not my total focus, like so many mental patients, that are pro-Israel. All they do is talk about Israel, anti-Israel. It's a religion. It's sick. The religion of worshiping Israel or hating Israel. By the Christian Zionists and the weird Nazis and just all of it, it's disgusting. And then Israel and the different groups there are playing it off.
Starting point is 00:25:10 loving to be persecuted, to play the victim, funding white supremacist groups to get more donations. Israel, at first founding, bloomed did bombings, all the Middle East, all over Europe, all over Spain, and would blame on other groups to make Jews move to Israel. They founded Hamas. They stood down on October 7th. But everybody just takes it from a one-dimensional view, whether they're for the Palestinians or whether they're for the Israel. Meanwhile, the globalists are funding both sides.
Starting point is 00:25:35 But it's too easy to be tribal and pick a side when it's not even your tribal fight. And that's only one level. I want people to have big picture, but they can't. It's a mental illness on all sides. So we're going to go to break here in a few minutes, and I'm going to go through the clips, the proof, the evidence, all of it. What does the great fake child sex trafficking epidemic, and you read this article for a few years ago,
Starting point is 00:25:58 all of it's been proven, all of it's true. We've got more kids caught by sex rings being raped in the news today, by the police, by the Border Patrol. But, oh, they're always writing articles that pedophilia's not. not a bad thing and kids love it and you know loves love but oh there's no epidemic of it it's not even happening and it's literally the alumni of geoffrey epstein island steve jobs wife the whole group massad cia covering up the whole absstein thing this is the mothership the Atlantic
Starting point is 00:26:35 Jeffrey Goldberg all of them and they're so proud of themselves so the Atlantic is the nexus between Massad, CIA MI6 heavily involved but mainly Massad CIA and it basically
Starting point is 00:26:57 I mean it's basically published out of Little St. John's Island I mean it is I mean there's hundreds of photos of all of them there constantly I mean look at this far going to break here is Lorraine Jobs, here's Steve Jobs's wife, there she is at the island, with Ghesley Maxwell, whose dad was the main sex trafficker from Mossad in MI6 on record.
Starting point is 00:27:22 And this is what they do. And that she funds transgenderism programs for kids, the targeting of kids, the curriculum to brainwash the kids, cut them off from their parents, and then take them. She funds the legislation in states where they take kids away as young as seven and put them in foster homes. I mean, this woman literally wants to hurt children. They literally want the energy of hurting children. It's what demons want.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I know she's been behind some of the financing, reportedly, the attacks on me. Of course, she wants to get me, because I know who she is. I see you witch. I know who you are, which. Who's losing which? You are. You.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Not us. We're growing stronger. You're growing weaker. So, the Trump administration, needs to come out politically non-violently guns ablation on Epstein on Goldberg, Mossade, MI6, all the fakedess of all he's put out before. Did Mossad or a leftist group of the CIA get into that signal that Obama slash Biden-Guller about to use? Is this a vault seven plant?
Starting point is 00:28:39 Because, I mean, even Waltz is saying, I don't know. I didn't put him in there. Trump said, well, just own up until let's move past it. That's the smart move if you don't know this. Don't own up to something you didn't do. I think they planted this. Don't you? We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:33:31 it's Alex Jones. Do you still think that Jeff Fuel brought down the World Trade Center? Does anybody else see a problem here? If the government has nothing to hide, are they so afraid to answer a few questions? This story does not add up. Here's the bottom line. Not one of the national security heads of the NSA,
Starting point is 00:34:09 the Defense Department, the Office of National Intelligence, none of them in this group chat on signal that the U.S. government orders them to use. that Biden ordered almost four years ago that's still being used and I've said they shouldn't use has said that they included Jeffrey Goldberg
Starting point is 00:34:30 the Israeli the editor of Atlantic the beyond Epstein-connected publication I'll get into it in a moment so Trump just says say it's a mistake you didn't give the secrets to China like Millie did deliberately
Starting point is 00:34:49 this stuff happened move on, you've learned your lesson. And of course, there's a whole other fascinating area where you actually see a real administration working and debating and J.D. Vance disagreeing, but saying, I'll follow orders. That's what I signed up to do. I mean, this is very refreshing, regardless what you think about fighting the Houthis in Iran.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Well, I mean, they've been attacking our ships. So here's the big takeaway. Jeff Goldberg came to me 13, 14 years ago to look up the date. I talked about this many times and he said it was an interview for Atlantic and he was the editor there and I looked him up and knew he'd been
Starting point is 00:35:36 deputy warden, you know, high-level jail guard at the famous Israeli torture center and I knew it was probably a Mossad operative, but I said, you could interview me back then I did interviews. He said, I'm out here for an interview. I know I told you that. I'm here to find out who you work for.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And now we know Obama right around that time, a bit of a national security investigation on to me gosh, I guess this is about 13 years ago. Right around the same time, this big investigation that's now come out in the party to classify will be covering with Carl Seraa from the famous FBI whistleblower here at studio who knows how to read these code documents. A lot of it's coded.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You can tell a lot when you're an FBI agent at that level that worked on these type of cases. He's in here in the third hour, an hour and a half from now. So Trump is saying, hey, just own it even though you're saying you didn't do this. Ratcliffe, the NSA had initiated the conversation. So Trump's saying, hey, you just take the blame. Waltz is the other telling, take the blame. And I don't see it that way.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I mean, I believe them. These people aren't liars. They understand that's how you get in trouble. And so if they're telling, Waltz that he needs to take the blame but he's saying I didn't include Jeffrey Goldberg
Starting point is 00:37:15 in this, then I believe that. And when you've got a long history under Volt 7 and Snowden releasing the documents where the CIA can go into any of these text apps, your email,
Starting point is 00:37:34 anything, and plant whatever they want, spoof, pretend that they're you, Just like these swatters can call in a 911 and use somebody else's phone number, and it's untraceable for most even governments to find, because they bounce it off number after number after number. So this is how they're going to try to bring down the Trump administration. Crash the economy, flood the borders continually.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Trump blocks it, have the illegal aliens protest, a bunch of them get killed, in a false flag, blaming on Trump, have a civil uprising. Those are some of the other ways. But the big one is the same thing they did eight years ago was claimed that Trump's a Russian agent or a Chinese agent. Elon's a Chinese agent. Elon got secret briefings.
Starting point is 00:38:29 No, he didn't. And then get into the computer systems and spoof leaks that didn't happen. And that's one of the biggest ways to get rid of Intel chiefs or people in Intel that are patriots is to say that they're representing a foreign government. They're not supposed to be and not declaring it, like General Flynn. Or, oh, they have child porn on their computer,
Starting point is 00:39:00 like they did with the CBS news reporter's husband, and the FBI got caught, admitted they tried to plant it on him to make Cheryl Lackinson shut up about investigating national security issues. So they're saying that Wall's future in doubt following accidental war plan leak. And look who it got leaked to, Jeffrey Goldberg.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And then you again, in other examples, the Australian government has been trying to pass a regulation without having a vote where he's pull it up. Australian government wants to be able to break into your social media and poses you and commit crimes in your name, set you up. Now, the British government wants the code keys, not just for their MI6 to Apple, which they have, but they want the general codes for all their police and everybody to be able to not just track you and get into your phone and read everything, but also set you up and frame you. So this is what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's all exposed in Vault 7. Just look up Edward Snowden, Edward Snowden, Volt 7. And one section of it in documents is how the CIA, all over the world, this was over a decade ago, breaking into people's computers, industrially, corporations, governments, individuals, Americans, and misrepresenting, planting things, stealing data, using it to financially destroyed people.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That's what Vault 7 is all about. So when Tulsi Gabbards and others say, and Waltz, says, we don't know anything about this, we didn't include him. He's not involved in this. I believe them. Now there it is.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Vault 7th, CIA hacking tools revealed. And then it's their favorite thing. Huge sections are dedicated to breaking in to people's computers and posing as them. So I understand
Starting point is 00:41:27 Trump's angle here of, hey, if you say you don't know that you did it or you don't, and you say you didn't do it, They're just going to turn into a giant investigation and then try to misrepresent that somebody did add him accidentally and that you've lied. And then they're going to be able to, you know, have this be ongoing. No, just say, okay, all right, lesson learned, move on.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Americans don't care about that. Americans read, I mean, I was fascinated last night reading these texts. Sounds like a really group of hardworking professional people that really care and are debating each other. instead of some globalist gives the order and then they just do it. So, and look, it's already backfiring on them. Trump stands by National Security Advisor, Mike Wals, despite disclosing military plans, saying he's learned a lesson. Trump says he's learned a lesson.
Starting point is 00:42:23 But Mike Wals is still saying, I don't know how Jeff Goldberg got in there. I've gone in and looked at it. He's not linked there. Well, I bet Jeff Goldberg just has no idea. because, I mean sarcastic, because there are massive numbers of globalist operatives in the intelligence contracting companies that have 80% of the operators who have just as much national security clearance as somebody, quote, inside the CIA, they put the veterans in the Booz Allen groups and all of that. That's the whole point of the CIA is most of them aren't actually agents, but they're operatives. and usually their bosses are operatives.
Starting point is 00:43:13 So you've got it backwards. It's not the CIA giving the orders. It's the permanent corporate intelligence agency system giving the minions, the errand boys and girls, the directives. And then they send them out with the green berets on dangerous missions and things that are a very small percentage of what they do.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Most of it's infiltrating media, infiltrating academia, infiltrating banks, infiltrating culture. And then Hollywood gives you the image of the green berets and the cool young woman who's their boss deciding who gets grabbed, who gets killed, who gets tortured.
Starting point is 00:43:49 So what you see on television versus how this actually works is completely different. So the main suspect with the history we have, what we know, what Goldberg's history is, if they were going to have the Mossad or the CIA or both,
Starting point is 00:44:08 because the high-level ones are all three, Mossad, MI6, CIA. I mean, how many, you know, the FBI CIA guy, that got caught on a hidden camera admitting that the FBI and CIA ran the operations of the fake lawsuits against me. He was FBI and CIA. The guy that got caught in the other Pito Sting, just Pito Stings catch these guys, or Pito investigations. The other guy that was running the coup operation as a liaison from the civilian and Pentagon side,
Starting point is 00:44:41 he was FBI, CIA, and contractor. and then top staffer of Hillary Clinton. And then you'll have other FBI. People go, well, he's not that senior. Or he's not, you know, that's because he doesn't work around you because he is senior in the outside group you're not part of. So that's how this is done. And the reason I keep coming into the story is they had such an industrial scale attack on Info Wars
Starting point is 00:45:16 that a lot of their people have been caught up and a lot of declassifications and a lot of leaks. And again, I told you it's the big Clinton law firm running all this against me. Trump just sanctioned him. Paul Weiss has been the quarterback group advising all the law firms against me. Told you that years ago, there it is in the news now. And why do they have a national security clearance that Trump was taking if they didn't pay a $40 million fine? They don't care.
Starting point is 00:45:45 The globalists just give more money. No, Trump should continue with their clearance pull. and we'll talk to Trump about that. But the point is, is that you don't think of a law firm as spies. No, that's the real spies. So you think of James Bond or, you know, somebody, or these shows about CIA agents, it's all crap. Maybe 2% of the CIA is involved killing people
Starting point is 00:46:13 and, you know, poisoning people or the rest of it. then maybe 5% or so Dead Reckoning is involved in regular sex operations with women and men trying to get intel and compromise people and then other 5% or so are pedophile operators and that's come out all over the place that they run pedophile rings and then just most of it is just academia
Starting point is 00:46:39 and paying people off and bags of cash and business deals and bribery 80-something percent is just bribery and corruption and espionage and even if you're not even fighting the globalist but you're not part of them. They're just there to steal your company secrets, make you sell to them. If that doesn't work, they'll send in the SEC or other federal agency to indict your ass for nothing. That's all it is, pirates. And it's all modeled after OSS, British intelligence that were on the British ships around the world who were in plain clothes as merchants and people and doctors and missionaries. And they would get off and then go do the dirty work, the real spies. The real spies are
Starting point is 00:47:22 preachers and doctors and nice old ladies nowadays i mean when andrew jackson sent my ancestors into texas and they recruited travis to foment things took him about seven years they did it and they were baptist preachers that's always work so that's the real world people and Goldberg magically gets all this. Now, if I didn't know this was coming, I've been predicting that we'd do a little fake intel leaks and try to create a scandal like this, and that's their standard trade.
Starting point is 00:48:07 But if somebody posed me, hey, they're going to do a vault seven style spoofing, they're going to go into a signal or an email or something, and then they're going to add other people onto the email or signal to create a national security leak scandal to shrive back at Trump, who do you think they'll claim is the person that's accidentally added to the signal or email?
Starting point is 00:48:28 And I would sit back and the old days, be like Bob Woodward and able intelligence. But nowadays, I would say Jeff Goldberg. I mean, I've talked about him being a master spy here probably 30, 40 times. Most of you've heard me talk about it before. You just type in Alex Jones, Jeff Goldberg. You'll find 15 years ago, 10 years ago,
Starting point is 00:48:50 five years ago talking about it. If you're a real listener, You've heard about Jeff Goldberg here. Who just told me he was basically a spy. I said, well, who do you work for? Well, I worked for Obama and some other people, and we want to know how dangerous you are. Who do you work for? How do you know all this stuff?
Starting point is 00:49:04 Who trained you? And I said, I'm living the real world. I study history. He's like, that's not what we hear. And I'm like, yeah, and people will say, it's a secret. Joe just admitted his family. It means it's from my show that people know that quite a bit of my family. back in the Humet era when it wasn't signals,
Starting point is 00:49:27 a big recruiting ground was Texas, and if you were high grades and tough and loyal, they got recruited into all sorts of stuff, fighting the Russians and all the rest of it, and Latin America, you name it. And then my family, people that were in it, told me how evil the government was when I was a little kid, and they got out of it.
Starting point is 00:49:45 But they also go into the file, and they go, because it's not your regular spies that are, you know, doing with these little kids, cowards do. No, I mean, it was, you know, doing the real stuff in the real operations and, you know, killing people, too. So they go, do, do, do, do. They go, oh, my God, who's this guy work for? My family never taught me any of that stuff. I was interested in it, so I went and I researched it all. I didn't really know why I was attracted to it when I was a kid. It was because I was around some of it. And they weren't telling me anything. So people start, you know, dying and stuff they tell you about it.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And it wasn't, it's not that big a deal. I mean, anybody out there that's got family that's an army officer that's actually done real stuff around the world, they work for the CIA. Just so you know. If you've got a family member that's an officer in special operations, it's a total liaison. That's what
Starting point is 00:50:41 it is, okay? So you got family that's an army officer that does intelligence, it's all there. And it's not like some fancy, cool thing. The CIA is gigantic. Absolutely gigantic. Now, if you've got enlisted
Starting point is 00:50:58 Fow members of Special Operations, they don't do CIA assassins. That's what officers, that's how that works, because they're commissioned. So, look, the point is, I've forgotten more than most people know. And most of the people in government that are even in the spy stuff
Starting point is 00:51:13 are just globalist pedophile candy asses that just act powerful and strut around in trench coats. Okay? Because since the mid-90s, all of the intelligence signals came in and they've been mainly relying on digital stuff, just like not just a spy, but to also sabotage, plant.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I mean, you see the power of it. I mean, look, I love what the Trump administration is doing, but that's a whole other scandal here. I'll get to the next hour. The fact that they are using signal for Trump's cabinet to communicate, don't you know the entire globalist system is watching you? MI6 on record has all the keys.
Starting point is 00:51:57 The EU, NATO, the left. You think you stripped all these Democrats of their national security clearances, but now you're on signal that's, quote, private, that Biden told everybody to use, you're using what they said to use. You should all be meeting in person in a situation room when you're going to launch a war. I mean, if you want to know what the men,
Starting point is 00:52:32 misstep is what the scandal is, it's that they're using signal so that the MI6 and Mossad and the CIA can go in and use AI to get into the back door and then add somebody in and then add it to the chain. That is so easy for even regular hackers. The regular hackers now getting business as emails, divert the emails, wait for a wire to come through,
Starting point is 00:53:04 sometimes months or years, and then cut off the person's emails, they don't see it, take the real email for the person sending the wire, tell them send the wire here, they'll even say, call me, they'll spoof the number, hijack the number, the person calls it sounds just like them, they're using AI, and they'll get tens
Starting point is 00:53:19 of millions of dollars, wired and just disappears. Now, that's the more sophisticated ones. People are fishing your emails, they're doing it all. That's what private individuals are able to do. So, you've got all these people, walls and hegs said another saying, we didn't add him,
Starting point is 00:53:37 but to create plausible inability, I beg you walls is the only one of the group that ever talked to Goldberg. I bet he has talked to him. I bet he's exchanged emails or communications. So then they didn't identify who they've got. He's been talking to him. We're going to get in there before an ex-war operation. Then we'll send it to Goldberg.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Goldberg knows what's going on, but doesn't even have to be told. He just says, oh, I got this. What do we do with this? Publishes it immediately the next morning they already have hearings. you see how this works so yeah I mean I'm sure of it
Starting point is 00:54:20 so that's why you tune in that's why we're here is the rest of the story not all this amateur BS garbage but the real world now the right answer I'll talk about this when we come back is Trump
Starting point is 00:54:37 coming out and saying oh Jeff Goldberg oh the Atlantic Monthly oh Steve Jobs wife oh the big Jeffrey Epstein Alumni Club. Oh, the same guy that put out all these fake stories. Oh, I wonder if somebody spoofed that signal. We're not going to use signal anymore. That's a Biden thing ordering people to use it.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And I'll get to all that. We've got clips of that being embedded coming up. And then put it on them. That's what needs to happen. Not just, quote, okay, well, they say they didn't do it, but let's just own up to it and move on. Yeah, that sounds like the best default. It's not.
Starting point is 00:55:19 attack. Because if there was a 20% chance this is the case, and it's like a 95 in my view, then you've got to go after it. And they've got to look for evidence, really good forensics. Tech people can see the pings coming in and see where they got in. And then you just publish that. And it's going to go right back to 10 Downing Street because that's running a whole operation right now. That's the clearinghouse command base. People go, no, it's Israel, only Israel. It's like in World War two, you got the allies all there in London running the ally deal. I'm saying, yeah, Mossad's heavily involved. The point is they have command bases. It's being
Starting point is 00:55:58 run on London. That's come out. The attacks on Trump, Musk, myself, all of you. It's run by London. They're the ones running the northern group, trying to reconstitute NATO, Neo-NATO. It's London. That's where it's run out of. Just like the Mossad's
Starting point is 00:56:15 child Pito ring. Maxwell's dad was out of London. Yeah, he was Mossad, run out of London. All right, we're going to go to break. When we come back, I'm going to get into the Pito connections and go through all that and play the clips of them admitting. I share the orders. We're by the order to use signal.
Starting point is 00:56:36 What are they doing? On signal, signal. Oh, actually, they're ordered to do it. Oh, and now it's got back doors. And oh, look what just happened. But remember, you're not going to get this information anywhere else. I wish everybody else understood this stuff. That's why we're so important.
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Starting point is 01:00:40 I got some portion from... Classic straight, isn't it? Some stations don't carry this first five, so I want to just hit some of the news. It's still important, but I'm going to finish up with these hearings. I've got a bunch of the clubs. I've got a lot of the news I want to hit. Huge developments on every front. The economy, 23 and me.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Judge Boschenberg responds to Trump, DOJ's invocation of state secrets privilege, saying you don't get to have our secret intel. Oh, God, they gave some people something on the signal, supposedly, but all these federal rogue judges operating outside their jurisdiction in violation of the Constitution, they can get everything. There is so much. We also got crazy congresswoman Crockett assaulting
Starting point is 01:02:03 a reporter today. It's all coming up. But I want to talk about Atlantic Monthly and the Epstein-Massad, MI6 CIA operation coming up next segment and go through some of these clips of the ongoing hearings that are all about, oh,
Starting point is 01:02:19 Elon's a Chinese agent, no proof, fake stories. Oh, why are we helping the Russians and not our allies that want to continue to start the war? It's all just a big grandstanding garbage and the public doesn't like it.
Starting point is 01:02:35 The public wants prosperity. The public wants to end the war. The public doesn't want to fund this insanity. And it's just more of the same. But I have told you they're going to get into the computer systems. They're going to do all sorts of fake leaks and real leaks. They're going to blame people that are innocent because they're having their national
Starting point is 01:02:56 security connections cut off, but they got backdoor. and signal on record. At one point, Jeffrey Goldberg was perhaps the most famous for writing peace after fake peace in The New Yorker about how Saddam Hussein was aiding and abetting some of bin Laden to attack America on 9-11. His discredited reporting was quoted by Dick Cheney on Sunday shows, helping lead us to headlong into the dumbest wars
Starting point is 01:03:19 in American history. Did Jeffrey Goldberg get fired or shamed or screwing up? Nope. He eventually became the editor and chief of the Atlantic. I got a long list of the lies and disinfo he's done since then against the Trump administration. Biden administration sent cartel's signal to help win elections. Texas AG, yeah, print me that. I forgot about that. So Biden says you signal.
Starting point is 01:03:46 What is the Trump administration doing using that? I mean, Kosh Patel was asked about it and said he wasn't involved in the other communications of secret stuff with the signal. I mean, that is just dumb. I mean, if you want the Democrats in MI6 and Israel and everybody else to know what you're doing in NATO, and Zelensky, you signal. That is it a complete giant scandal in and of itself. And it gives me a headache. Absolutely disgusting.
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Starting point is 01:07:02 All right, let me recap what I covered in the first hour. Then I'm going to finish up with other key areas I haven't gotten into about Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad, CIA, MI6. Not connections, that's what the Atlantic Monthly is. Jeffrey Goldberg, Mossad, connections. I mean, it's like saying avocatas are connected to avocatas. It's just ridiculous. So, recapping here.
Starting point is 01:07:36 There's a lot of facets to this. You want to apportion some blame to the Trump administration and actually have a real learning experience out of this, like Trump has said, is what the hell are you doing, Trump administration, using signal that the Biden administration told all the federal employees and intel people in the cabinet to use because they've got their private globalist intel spying on all of that with back doors into it, well known. And then you've got the Biden administration helping drug cartels in Mexico finance elections. The Texas AG exposed. We put that on screen. I mean, that's the globalist clearinghouse
Starting point is 01:08:19 of the private, corporate, governmental intelligence agencies. And then all these people tell me, oh, signals the best. That's what the U.S. government says use. That's because they want to know everything you're doing. The criminals embedded in the deep state. It's harder for them to get into the NSA systems, but they got back doors there. But now that they're out of office and Trump's been cutting off their security clearances and plugging up holes in the NSA that William Benny, the technical head of the NSA, exposed on this show a decade ago and then five years ago and then three years ago, they want you on signal so the deep state can spy on you
Starting point is 01:08:55 and try to continue being dug in and stay in powers. We'll go back to that on screen in a moment. So the real problem is stop using signal. number two you've got waltz and hegseth and all of them saying we didn't add jeff goldberg onto the list we don't know even if that's him these are initials how did he get this he's not even involved in this and trump's like well just say you did it because if you say you did it it just becomes more of an investigation and it's a mistake it's not like you called the chinese head of the military and gave our battle plans like milly did actual open treason just
Starting point is 01:09:40 move on from it. And that would make sense if they actually, somebody did it, but I believe them that they didn't do it. That's Vault 7. I'm not saying it's just the CIA, but we know from Bolt 7, their favorite thing is to go spoof, intel people they don't like, put fake leaks
Starting point is 01:09:56 in their email, or on their chats, on signal, things like that, anything they want, and then they're able to frame you, plant child porn on you, strip your national security clearance, whatever they want. So that's how they operate.
Starting point is 01:10:14 So then there's that whole area that, to me, all the evidence points towards spoofing and this being a frame-up. Because they're all still saying no. But Trump's like, well, just own up to it and move on. But now the reporting on Tuesday, March 13, Goldberg received a notification from Mike Waltz, asking him if he wanted to join the Houthi PC Small Group on Signal, a subsequent message again from Waltz Red, team establishing a principal's group for coordination on Houthis, particularly over the next 72 hours. Now, was that somebody spoofing into the account?
Starting point is 01:11:01 And then they can block it out where the other person can't see? I don't know. Is Walls telling the truth? But that's how this works. I know people personally just a few weeks ago in business, we have a local business, and they've been doing business with another vendor for years, and then somebody hacked into their Microsoft business administrator,
Starting point is 01:11:24 blocked all the emails from the vendor, started talking to them. They'd been in there obviously for years. And then when the wire came, said, oh, change it to this. This is the new wire. And then they wired it to them. And then it disappeared. I mean, that's just regular hackers doing that.
Starting point is 01:11:45 So when this stuff's going on, you have to be aware of that. And again, because the mirror tabloid says that doesn't mean it's true. but the larger area to look at is who is the Atlantic. For decades, it's been the mouthpiece of a clearinghouse of globalist bureaucrats and corporate leaders. MI6, Mossad, CIA. But particularly Mossade and CIA. And Jeffrey Epstein was best friends with the owners and the leaders of it and with the main owner, Steve Jobs, widow.
Starting point is 01:12:27 We'll put her on screen a little while, and they have countless articles saying, oh, you know, these conservatives worried about kids being sexualized, don't worry, it's no big deal. And headlines like this. The great fake child sex trafficking epidemic. We'll get into that actual sickening article in a moment. But here's the clip, the Biden administration, and this is on record, authorized signal as a means of communication that was consistent with presidential record-keeping requirements for his administration that continued into the Trump administration.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Here's Senator Cotton talking about it. Intelligence community, you signal. They have communication all the time. Is that not correct? Lawrence, that is correct. In fact, I bet a bunch of those senators that you see at the hearing today are using signal as well. To speak to each other or to speak to their aides. And it is my understanding that the Biden administration authorized signal as a means of communication
Starting point is 01:13:31 that was consistent with presidential record-keeping requirements for its administration, and that continued into the Trump administration. It's simply another messaging app, like the IMSG app on your iPhone or email servers, that every administration has set up in which senior administration officials can communicate with each other. Oh, and then magically Jeff Goldberg gets some information. Millie held secret calls with China's top military brash, others as Trump pushed election lies.
Starting point is 01:14:06 There's the corporate media spinning it like it's good. Illegally calling a top general and giving him battle plans and saying I'm in control not Trump. Treason. Millie stands by communications with China
Starting point is 01:14:16 amid backlash sparked by new book revelations. And he owned up to it. He said, yeah, I'm told them I was in charge on Trump. Jeffrey Goldberg is a well-known for his sensationalist spin. Here's some of the facts about his latest story. No war plans were discussed.
Starting point is 01:14:32 No classified material was sent in the thread. The White House Counsel Office has provided guidance on the number of different platforms for President Trump's top officials and committee to communicate as safety and effectively as possible. As the National Security Council stated, the White House was looking into how Goldberg's number was inadvertently added to the threat. All you got to do is add the number, folks. Thanks to the strong and decisive leadership of President Trump and everyone in the group, the Houthi strikes were successful.
Starting point is 01:15:02 effective. Terrorists were killed, and that's what matters most of President Trump. Yeah, what do we have in the first Trump administration? Every time he was hitting somebody that was really CIA back, they got word before and weren't there, and Trump's talked about that. Trump, in speculation about Yemen war plans in group chat, defends Mike Walls, says he has learned a lesson. So Trump's just saying, hey, just own it, whatever really happened, and move on.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Probably smart because the public really can't grasp a lot of stuff. Is this the end for NSA Mike Walls, who invited? Far Left Media Hack in the private White House signal group, but we didn't even know that really happened. Axio says he may weather the storm. Trump stands by walls. Now here's Jeff Goldberg.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Did he get invited into another group and get added that? Did it happen by accident? I don't think so. Look at who it is, folks. If I had to pick somebody, if they were going to do a fake leak and a frame-up, I would pick this guy.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I've talked about him a lot. Jeffrey Goldberg. I'm sure he doesn't know, though. Jeff Goldberg, journalist, who knew about U.S. war plans in advance. And most journalists got something like that, they'd say, oh, this is an accident, oh, thanks for the sword. Oh, but he has to go tell everybody even what he's saying is true.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Errogate to the maximum. Top U.S. generals secretly called China where fears Trump could spark war. When Trump never even said anything about war with China, they were still in the election. So now look at this sickening evil. The great fake child trafficking epidemic, the Atlantic didn't age well this was four years ago or about three and a half years ago
Starting point is 01:16:42 and here is the actual article and it just goes through saying there's no kids getting kidnapped nothing's happening it's all the right wing line yeah there's not 350,000 of them admittedly smuggled in by Biden that disappeared many in sex slavery even the Nurt times admits no no no this suddenly ubiquitous save the children post created the illusion of an organic movement rising from up to confront a massive social problem. Oh, but there's not a sexualization of kids. There's no transgender movement. There's no pedos stuff being taught schools.
Starting point is 01:17:12 None of that's true. It just goes on on. You know how they used to have kids on the milk cartons? One mother told me that wouldn't even be possible now. There's not enough milk cartons. It's actually true. You want to put like a few kids a month on all of them so you can actually get it out to people. You can't put it.
Starting point is 01:17:29 There's millions, over a million kids here missing. And some just run away, but a lot of them. end up in slavery. And like every day I see five, six articles not even looking like this one. But the Atlantic, the big Jeffrey Epstein alumni, no, no, there's no problem.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Look at this. Kansas trooper rescues six-year-old kidnap victim. At a traffic stop, the Kansas Highway Patrol trooper, rescued the six-year-old girl missing for a month after pulling over an SUV. She was grabbed out of her backyard. One man had an out-of-state warrant for kidnapping.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Oh, really? The other had a history, including homicide, the girl, coach Deli, eventually told the truth for her real name. She was safely recovered and unharmed. Both men in their 60s were taken into custody. Oh, but I mean, you just heard the Atlantic say that none of that's happening. It's just made up. There's nothing. And look, here she is, Steve Jobs' widow, Lorraine Jobs, with Gis Lane Maxwell. She went to the island reportedly over a hundred times. Best friends.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Oh, here they are best buddies. Wonder what they're up to. Sick people. Evil people. But don't worry. They've died and all the rest of it. Now it's been dropped. The New York mayor, who's a bad guy, but he even said, look, I'm all for illegals coming and everything,
Starting point is 01:19:04 but not the sex traving of kids. And I'm going to help. And he said, I've done this for four years. said, I'm trying to save kids, and Trump wants to do it too. Well, Hocchel, the main moves to find missing kids, by the way, and the biggest group I think is in Chicago and New York, well, here it is. New York Governor Kathy Hocel confirms that New York State will not be cooperating with ICE, calling all countries that do, or all counties that do renegate.
Starting point is 01:19:31 So if a county helps find kidnap kids, human traffickers that are doing it, she says they're renegade. She's ordering them not to help ICE, who's first targeting not just illegal aliens that are criminals to be here, no, hardened human traffickers, pedophiles, you name it. And you see the cases every day in Denver, in Chicago, in L.A., in Seattle, in Portland, in Austin, in Houston. Texas is just as bad. We're almost blue.
Starting point is 01:19:59 The cities are all blue. And they just release pedophiles. I've got cases right here where you got somebody raping a baby, and they get two months. I mean, it is, and the same thing in the U.K. Rape a baby, no jail time. Pray outside of the abortion clinic, two years in jail. I got the articles, I'll show them to you.
Starting point is 01:20:19 So, and Kierr-Starmor ran all that for 15 years as the great high protector of pedophiles. Epstein is just a window into all of this. And now Pam Bondi goes on TV and says, yeah, you know, we raided the New York offices of the feds, of the FBI that wouldn't release and was hiding obscene information. We got truckloads. It's hundreds of new child victims we've identified. And now we're going out doing the interviews.
Starting point is 01:20:45 The investigation takes time, but it's coming out soon. And anybody that knows how that works, they're moving quickly. And they got set up with old documents, not fake. And she said it right. She goes, hey, I just got these. I'm told most of this is old in the cover sheet. And I'm going to raid the New York offices of the stuff's not here about tomorrow night. And they didn't give it up.
Starting point is 01:21:04 So she raided them the next morning. She didn't even wait for them to refuse. And now they got it. And now they're on TV saying, we got it. Hundreds of more victims. We're protecting them and the witnesses and doing the interviews. Because you've got to go get the witnesses, you know, the butler, the maid, the masseuse. People that helped Epstein are like 20-year-old women that were kidnapped in Europe.
Starting point is 01:21:26 We know their names. Eight years old. Solve of the family for a million bucks to Epstein. Now she's 20. Now she's a pedophile controller. We got their names. They're going out to all those women and saying, now is the time. And they're getting the butlers and the yard people and the gardeners.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I mean, it's all happening. And they've got to send agents out and they've got to do it. And there's a directive. It's the number one priority in the FBI is to get all the files and do all the interviews and deliver cases to the DOJ for indictment. And now the best they got is, oh, Jeffrey Goldberg got added to this list magically. Oh, God, look at this. he's the editor of the nexus point
Starting point is 01:22:10 and I knew this over a decade ago but after Goldberg came here like 13 years ago I looked at it more and I'm like my God it's like the head of the snake how many experts have I had on about this they put out the disinfo they put out the lie I mean a good percentage of the time there's other big bosses that put out the hoax is New York Times
Starting point is 01:22:30 Financial Times of London All Street Journal but most of the time it's them. You want to hear what the New World Order wants, the globalist, the worst of the globalist. Atlantic, the Atlantic. And then you look at it, it is a Jeffrey Epstein party. And Bill Gates and all of them.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And then who's the editor? Jeff Goldberg. Go on the attack, Trump. Go on the attack, Stephen Miller. You're only Epstein Connect. having him kicked out of Marlono. We're hitting on 16-year-olds. Trying to recruit them.
Starting point is 01:23:29 So it is very important for everybody to understand this. And Hocel says we're not going to help Tom Homan and Mayor Adams. They said the main missions find the kidnapped kids. We're not helping you.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And any county that helps find kidnapped kids and brings the smugglers of justice is rogue. I will have you indicted. You will not help fine children. Governor Pritzker and his old sickening, transgender pito-loving operation. They're like kingpins in it.
Starting point is 01:24:02 We're going to fight ICE when they come here and the mayor. We're going to fight you. They let convicted pedophiles and murderers out of jail and don't tell the feds are letting him go. So the feds stake out. All the prisons and jails are grabbing dozens in Chicago alone every day.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And you're like, I want more deportations. I want more. They closed most of the centers. They reopened them. They've got a huge hiring spree. They've got to train people. I mean, do you think Trump can just shit diamond cufflinks? Then he just snaps his fingers? I know anybody that's even had a business with 10 employees understands what Trump's up against. Anybody that's ever having with 50 people are in operation. Anybody that's ever, you know, it's hard to get stuff done. And I'm not even here as an apis. When I see something Trump does, I don't like, I go ape and you know it.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Just like with this red coat crap that I knew he was just patting him on the head, but still, that's an insult. And I tore into his ass because my integrity is number one. But this, this, this, where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? If they launch these indictments too quickly, they'll fall apart. And that's what the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey said. She said, we got their ass. Okay. We got hundreds of victims. We got names.
Starting point is 01:25:28 We got to find out who's guilty and who's innocent. We're doing all the interviews. It's the number one priority. It's a huge job just with the Epstein. We're on it. Part of me wants them to still go after Epstein, but that's had it so much time to cover up. No, no, no. It's the missing kids.
Starting point is 01:25:45 And when they're finding kids in slavery and sex slavery and even investigative journalists are doing it, it gets no corporate coverage when Anthony Rubin and all them find this incredible stuff themselves. And they go to a house like, I am 12. They brought me here when I was 10. I have my baby coming. The men come. They make me be prostitute. I was sold four times. And she's saying it's Spanish. It's like, yeah, okay, a million views on X.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Not on Fox. And they go to the next house. I am nine. The men are rape me. I mean, they're able to go into the house. Lorraine Powell Jobs is one of Kamala Harris's biggest bankrollers and closest friends. Yeah. And she's one of the biggest bankrollers of the transgender, pito, sexualization of kid crap
Starting point is 01:26:28 and keeping pito books in the elementary school libraries. I mean, this woman is a dude. They get power out of the hurting children. Because you're not a Satanus, you don't understand it. I've investigated it. I've interviewed the top experts like Ted Gunnerson, John DeCamp and others, and then I've actually run into it in my life once. And that I've not shared.
Starting point is 01:27:01 But, and I mean, I'm talking about like real devil-wors. I mean, beautiful women. And they are, they are devil. worshipers. They want to do one thing and that's her kids. And then I talked to a lot of law enforcement. And they said, oh, man, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, and that, you know, it's indescribable people. But, I mean, it is so horrible. It is so horrible.
Starting point is 01:27:34 I mean, you imagine some pot-bellied old evil pedophilence to screw kids. It's gross. You can't even imagine it. But imagine beautiful women that they don't want to rape kids. I mean, they literally buy. big ass chunks out of these babies. I mean, they rip their guts out. Hillary Clinton's first job, her dad was the deputy mob boss under Daly in Chicago. Look it up.
Starting point is 01:28:00 She was a fresh lawyer before she went to the Watergate cover up and got kicked out because she got caught planning evidence. Looked that up. She was sent for three years to Hot Springs and Little Rock was her beat for Dixie Mafia that worked for the Italian mob out of Chicago. Look at it. That was actually their main base because it was safer. They didn't run out of Chicago.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Little Rock and Hot Springs. The general public doesn't know this, but you just type it in. It's history books. And there's recordings of this. Her first job was representing when the boys got out of control because they like to kidnap girls and rape them. Eight, nine, ten-year-old girls that grab them off their bikes, take them rape them three days in a barn. One case took a, I've interviewed the woman in studio, cut her face all up, took a broomstick, shoved it all the way up in her uterus, tore her guts out. and Hillary went and covered it up
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Starting point is 01:34:22 and was blown away by him because he knows how to read him what the codes mean. He knows so much more about what I believe is an illegal long-term. I mean, they admit they did it. National Security investigation to myself. And now it makes sense why Jeff Goldberg came here 13 years ago, right when this started, and said, who do you work for? I'm basically here from the Obama administration. come here to interview you. And I came on
Starting point is 01:34:42 here the next day and said that's what he did. People can find that interview or find me talk about that the next day. And some of the crew still here. Rob Doe still was working here when that guy was here. So and of course they found that I worked for you. I mean, I'm the boss.
Starting point is 01:35:00 But these people are all minions, so they cannot believe that there's other people out there that are on their own. Now they see all the main talk show host, the most popular quote, influencers, are all these thousands of independent people that just have brains and know how to research. And it's good because I want lots of company.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Because I have a lot of general knowledge, basically everything, but some great specific detailed knowledge in some areas. But I learned from all of you, and I learn from our guests, because there's a lot that I just have general knowledge of. But most people don't have a general knowledge. What I have is general overall knowledge and big picture stuff, how it connects, and then patterns that form. And that's what I do.
Starting point is 01:35:42 But bottom line, you've heard MS-13 has horrible rituals to be a maid member, and then it's turned into devil worship the last 10 years. Before that, it was still there, but now it's the main ritual, killing little kids, cutting pentegrams in them, biting chunks out of them. And then you go into all these other groups, and they just get worse and worse initiation, so much the Mexican cartels are into Satanism and human sacrifice. I mean, that was even in Texas Monthly 35 years ago. I remember reading it when I was doing high school, and good God.
Starting point is 01:36:12 and, you know, about the cases of the Satan worship and the human sacrifices, and now it's just rampant. And so when I talk about Epstein Island and weird cloning experiments and all the stuff I first talked about, people didn't believe that later came out, oh, he was interested in cloning. No, he had a big medical facility in New Mexico. And the same thing with Nygaard, out in the Caribbean. This is all mad scientist craziness.
Starting point is 01:36:33 And so I've never been there, but I've read about it. It's, I guess, like going to the Netherlands to one of their big red light districts like in Copenhagen and or Denmark, all those places, but the Netherlands. And it's just anything you want, it's there. Well, anything you can imagine, that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:36:58 And this stuff comes out in federal court documents, but you never see it on the news. I mean, the snuff films, all of it, and you never see any of it because if they published it, they'd be publishing that. Even if they find where the FBI, you know, got all the hard, drives and VHS tapes and all the stuff going back decades with Epstein that they've hidden, that they admit they had and then disappeared.
Starting point is 01:37:18 You can't publish that. You can write a report on it. And I've read the reports before on air. And I had stations 27 years ago, I'd read one of these reports. They'd call them and say, we love Alex, but you can't read that on air. Now, nowadays, people can hear this stuff because people understand it really goes on. But, I mean, if I just go back to memory of the stuff I've covered on air, it is so hellish that it feels like a crime to even tell.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Tell it. But you have to tell it because you've got to get it out. But sex with 15 and 16-year-old girls is the gateway drug, okay? And once they get you into it, it's more and more and more. And then they totally know they've got you. You think MS-13 ass people kidnap 10-year-old girls and rape them and cut their heart out in a pentagram? Just look it up. How many cases of that?
Starting point is 01:38:08 Bucolet talking about it? You think they just magically invented that? the Mexican mafia right here in Texas, you've got to go basically shoot an innocent person to be an inner member. You got to go to that liquor store and kill the owner. We want to make sure you're controllable. Well, there's no reason to kill him.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Well, then you're out of the gang. You got an order. You go kill that liquor store owner and you get that money. But he'll give me the money. That's not the point. Kill them. And that nowadays is the nice gangs. You see, because they're getting you ready to do whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:46 they tell you and they want the total dirt on you. So I got a bunch of other news I want to hit ahead of Carl Serafin coming in for an hour, and then I'm going to fourth hour hit all the other news that's breaking coming out. There's so much. You got Crockett assaulting a reporter. I mean, just it's all insane. But this is the best they got, trying to crash the stock market, trying to get a false flag against the illegal alien demonstration going,
Starting point is 01:39:13 trying to have a civil war. The Democrats are all saying that. And try to escalate World War III. and that's not going too well for them. And then, oh, Intel leaks. Oh, problems. But you watch the hearings that are ongoing. And it's, oh, you're incompetent.
Starting point is 01:39:35 You're leaking everything. You're idiots. Oh, you work for China. Elon Musk. Oh, why are you not teaching climate change in these 18 intelligence agencies? I mean, it's just bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, which is great. These are all 90, 10, 80, 20, 20 issues. So it's just more of the same.
Starting point is 01:39:54 They've gone from Russia Gate to China Gate. Oh, Elon's in a secret briefing with the Pentagon. Never happened. Wasn't set up a lie. Look at these headlines. Suddenly, and for no reason that I can understand, the United States is starting to act like our adversaries are our friends. NATO started the war with Russia.
Starting point is 01:40:14 They've all bragged about it. Victoria Newland. All of them. Soros, I played clips again last week. He said it dozens of times. They're on their border. They're starting war with them. Biden was bombing inside Russia.
Starting point is 01:40:26 It's insane. It's not acting like we're Russian agents to end this escalated war that endangers the whole planet. What's this have to do with a quote intel league? Senator Mark Warner on the signal chat. I think this is one more example of the kind of sloppy, careless, and competent behavior, particularly towards classified information. This is not a one-off a first-time error. Senator Angus King asked.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Who decided climate change should be left off the report after it's been in the prior 11? This is BS. Oh, you know, the trillion they get every few years with their green funding to then give it to themselves. Tulsi Gabbard, there was no classified material that was shared in the signal chat, Senator Mark Warner. So then, if there was no class of material, share it with the committee. Senator Chuck Schumer on the signal chat. I am calling for the bipartisan investigation into the Senate of this was handling. Republicans must not just shrug their shoulders and call this incident one of those landing moments.
Starting point is 01:41:37 They need to call Millian, who bragged later when he was found out that he called the top Chinese generals to say Trump might strike you when Trump had said nothing. But don't worry, we've got an administrative coup. I'm in control of the nukes. Treason, drag them all in. Go on the office. And again, how did he get added? Did they spoof the things from Waltz? Because he's saying he didn't do that.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It happens all the time. Vault 7. Senator Tom Cotton. So that protester was a Code Pink. Code Pink is funded by Communist China as well. Absolutely. And who is up to their eyeballs with the Chikoms? Almost everyone on the Chai Com payrolls is a Democrat
Starting point is 01:42:23 other than Mitch McConnell. And his wife and her sister. who just got loose-ended in Texas down the road, driven into a pond in the middle of the night. How's that doing on the Johnson Ranch? Not the first person to get driven into the pond, I can tell you. Kind of like the fictitious, take them to the railroad station in Yellowstone. So would you want to see the clubs?
Starting point is 01:42:52 I just read what they say, basically. But they're all still saying that they didn't invite Goldberg in to that particular feat. Well, one of the most common ways they do it with hackers, period, not just governments, is they can get into your computer, spoof you to other people, spoof your number, or they can do it from an ounce of computer, or they can spoof somebody else to you, and that's how they trick you. I was talking to, like, a year ago, to my family law lawyer, and he has a very prominent former federal judge here in Texas,
Starting point is 01:43:32 whose son was getting into divorce. That's how he knew him. And the judge called him last year and said, yeah, I get a call. It's my son's number. It's my son's voice. And he says, you know, I've been kidnapped. I need this much money right now. They're going to kill me in one hour.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Here's where you wire it. And then he was smart enough to hang up, call, and get a hold of a son. He said, no, that's not me. But, I mean, again, last year, I told you about it. Tucker found out who it was. Tucker's number starts calling. I answer it. It sounds like Tucker.
Starting point is 01:44:05 It's AI. But I could tell the way it was waiting a second and that AI wasn't really good enough yet. I could tell it wasn't a soundboard, though. And then this comedian announces that night in Canada, oh, I bought Tucker's number and I spoofed it and I called Alex Jones. And then as soon as I said, hey, this is AI. Tucker's fake voice starts going, I'm going to suck your titties. And I mean, I'm just telling you what it said. And then Tucker found out who it was.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Their lawyers called and threatened him and the guy didn't publish it. You can go find it on his ex-account. I forget his name. My point is if a comedian in Canada who's not even big can do that, can you imagine what the CIA or Mossad can do. So it's a big deal. Yeah. At least 50 U.S. government employees were targeted with phones, spyware overseas.
Starting point is 01:45:03 And I'm telling you, the public doesn't understand how bad this is, well, some of it's come out. If your daughter, particularly her son, has a TikTok account or a YouTube account, and even a few minutes of video, they can do it. They can grab that audio, program the AI, find out who your mother or dad is, and then they call up. Happens all the place. There's been famous cases of it and says,
Starting point is 01:45:25 Mommy, they've got me. They're going to kill me. You've got to wire $50,000 right now or I'm dead. You've got three hours. So, I'm not a tech guy. I just read all the tech stuff. There's so many ways to do this. gives me a headache.
Starting point is 01:45:47 So you've got to look at that, especially again, if I was a globalist and going to do this and set people up and plant stuff, I would, maybe Jeff Goldberg doesn't even know, but Jeff Goldberg, again, has been an Israeli intelligence operative.
Starting point is 01:46:04 He was the deputy head of the famous Israeli torture command base when he was a young man. And then he's the editor of Atlantic Monthly, the Epstein Mossad mothership, that liaisons with the CIA and MI6 and all of this crap. So I've been ranting about this forever.
Starting point is 01:46:34 I've got so much more to get to. It's all completely insane. I mean, here's an example. Before the Pentagon came out five years ago and said, do not do 23 and me and these other big DNA companies. If you're in the military, it's being sold to China. I'd already said, because that's where these big companies fence the material, that I was told by high-level people that they are sending all your information,
Starting point is 01:47:00 not just to China, but to other big companies. There's even been cases where you then, even before this, where you try to go get a gene therapy they don't have, oh, that blood sample you gave 25 years ago, to get your blood test it, you didn't read the fine print that they own your body now and all your special proteins and DNA. Every DNA person is different, so each treatment's different, And so this genetic treatment would have been $50,000.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Now it's $8 million. There's been famous cases. And so remember the nose swab for the COVID testing? Multiple big companies, it turned out, came out last year, just like I said, were selling the data. It was all pure bull. And they turned the PCR test to 35 or 40 times so that they could get the false positives they wanted. That's what they said, test, test, test, Biden would say. More testing.
Starting point is 01:47:53 more testing. Trump figured it out the last few months. It goes, no more cut money to testing. Again, it's just similar to this. We take a metal detector, aiming at the sky, sent to gold or silver, whatever you're looking for. Turn up the amplifier. It will tell you there's gold in the air. If there's not. Just like you turn up a microphone amplifier, just the background resonance does it. Okay? And the inventor of PCR explained that. He said, if you think it's something and it's already, spreading, you can set it low and maybe it indicates somebody's got it, but it still hit or miss. He goes, you turn it up past even a few percentage points, you will get a false positive every time. Yep, testing firm can profit from sale of COVID swabs.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Company saves customer DNA for future years. And it turned out a bunch of them are doing it. And I told you that before the Pentagon did. and why do I know? In 1996, I broke that since 1974, strange enough the year I was born, 51 years ago,
Starting point is 01:49:07 that blood test where they prick your baby's foot and put it on that paper swabs, and they tell you they're testing for blood disorders, well, why don't you test your locally? No, it goes into a Pentagon and then UN Global DNA database. And I learned it because a nurse called him for San Antonio that worked at Fort San Antonio
Starting point is 01:49:25 that worked at Fort San Houston Medical Center. And she said, we're taking and storing baby's blood, then it's sent off to Michigan, and then off the U.N. from there. And they're patenting everybody's genome with it. And I said, will you send me that information? And she said, yeah, I'm in Austin next week. And I told the producer, put her on hold, get her number. And this old woman, wasn't that old, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:49 I was 20-something years old that she looked old, like a 55-year-old woman, shows up, walks up, hands me a whole file. off of our reporting on that, lawsuits got filed in Texas, Illinois, and Minnesota, and they won cases over it, but they still do it. But they paid people's families that went and filed suits over it. So that's why I'm like, I guarantee you they're taking your DNA with that baby. And, of course, they were. But, oh, fact checkers would say Jones has no proof of that.
Starting point is 01:50:26 I'm the fact checker. Doesn't mean I'm always right, but I'm going to go ahead. just like I said four or five months ago, when Biden started bombing Russia directly, I said within a week, Putin and others are going to say we're in World War III. Two days later, we're in World War III. The Polish president, we're in World War III. MI6, we're in World War III. German, all of them, we're in World War III.
Starting point is 01:50:46 I mean, I remember like a fact-chequer. No one has declared World War III. Well, who is going to declare it? They don't want you to know it. You can determine and say this is now, and it's conventional World War III. It had all the ingredients. So when I'm telling you something that I believe
Starting point is 01:51:06 that it is not just my opinion, it is the best approximation of something. It is my best approximation that this was a spoofing and a setup. Bare minimum, he got in contact, was communicating it on some signal communication with him. You can say he accidentally sent it to him, but he says he doesn't see evidence of that.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Walls doesn't, the NSA head. and so because it's Goldberg then it that raises it to like 95% in my view this is a setup all right I'm done talking about that good God I just hit the 23 and me
Starting point is 01:51:46 I can talk hours about that and that's just one other story here I have a tendency to not talk about our own personal persecution because I understand that if they can get rid of Trump or derail all this We're all screwed anyways. But at the same time, if the stuff that's been done to myself and my family and my crew,
Starting point is 01:52:06 and do your free speech rights and your right to hear this show, remember you're the real target. If this was happening to somebody else, I would be really harping on it. And quite frankly, everybody's so used to me being persecuted, including myself, that instead of being a victim,
Starting point is 01:52:21 I kind of just ignore it. And now so much has come in, so much we've learned, not just this huge news we're about to break, with high-level, very respected, FBI whistleblower has been totally vindicated, Kyle Serafin, I'm going to reveal to him on air what we haven't released yet,
Starting point is 01:52:38 and we'll put the documents out soon. I mean, the Justice Department funding the lawsuits against me, not just admitting it in undercover tapes, not just admitting on the stand, COVID money to do it. And people are getting indicted for that, you know, like Cory Bush's husband. And the FEMA guy out in California and a bunch of others.
Starting point is 01:52:58 And that's just one piece. I mean, we've got, so much now. And see, I'm not even trained like an FBI agent. So in my own life, just following what they're doing to me, I can't even keep track of it. That's just one investigation. Can you imagine
Starting point is 01:53:20 hundreds of new kids they found that are victims, Pam Bondi says? And they're trying to send agents out to interview them and get, I mean, five kids being raped on an island is a giant, huge fiasco. And then it's in England and in France and New Mexico. in New York and in Florida.
Starting point is 01:53:38 I mean, it's just like, and I'm not an apologist for this. I just arrest them, arrest them, arrest them, arrest them. We're in day 63, folks. And you are going to see indictments. That's why they tried to kill Trump. That's why they're trying to sabotage everything. It's why they're blowing up. The Tesla attacks have gone international.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Found fire bombs out at the Tesla dealership where I was there, 11 days ago, 10 days ago. And I said, I bet you blow this up the next week. Well, they certainly tried. So it's just total insanity. And that's corruption's plan, is if it can just get it going widespread and there's so much of it, society just kind of gives up and it takes over. And we're right on the edge of just everything being out of control forever.
Starting point is 01:54:31 And let me just do this now. We'll have Kyle Sarifan in here for as long as he wants to be. And then I'll hit all this other news. I did it last night. We shot like five reports after the show. If there's 15 stories I need to cover, I'll be up here until midnight. But our crew is so small, Rob Dews has been working for a year nonstop. He does a great job, but he got burnout.
Starting point is 01:54:55 And he told me about three weeks ago, he said, I'm going on two weeks ski vacation. Totally deserved. He'll come back, energized. I'm like, go, go. He's back now. He just got back. Well, he's landing right now. He's the guy that was covering and trying to research all the DOJ CIA.
Starting point is 01:55:09 ops against us. And it's just like a room of stuff. I just, it's it's, ugh, it gives you a headache. And there's always not leads, documents, more grants, more funding, just, ah. And then I'm with lawyers trying to pour over it and document it right out of the Davids. And the Justice Department wants this. And I'm like, ah,
Starting point is 01:55:26 you got to get every part of it right. You got to sign sworn statements. And so, I mean, I'm just getting just a little bit of what the FBI has to deal with. And I'm not defending the FBI at the top. It's totally corrupting all the rest stuff. But folks, 300 and that was 50-something.
Starting point is 01:55:41 thousand in the Senate report. And that's just who they know Biden ordered handover to NGOs. And then 8,000 names got leaked to Anthony Rubin. And his group's only got four people. They went to hundreds of houses and found kids were being raped and pregnant and sex slavery. And, I mean, it's just, it's just. And then, you know, Hocel's saying she's going to block any investigations in New York. I mean, these people, it's just the magnitude.
Starting point is 01:56:08 The magnitude. And that's how. one time I cut my leg I never really had much of bad infections but about 15 years ago I got a cut on my shin and it got infected it was pushing and gripping and I didn't go in for about a week
Starting point is 01:56:23 I was just putting medicine on it and I got there the x-rayed they said holy crap it was rotted all the way down the front of my leg all the way into my foot basically gangrene they put me on massive antibiotics all this pus poured out for like a week and it got better but they said I could have lost my leg and that's America folks
Starting point is 01:56:39 you see the surface cut and we're kind of swole. Under it is just rotting. Just rotting filth. And Doge and Trump are exposing it, and there's pus shooting out. And you're like, clean it up, clean it up, hurry up, find it all. And they're like swimming in the pus. I mean, I'm sorry to be gross here.
Starting point is 01:56:59 The bottom line is, I only plugged for one minute last hours. I'm so busy. I'm doing it now. I can't do this without you. I'm maxed out. If I had more money, I could have more lawyers and not just defend ourselves, but move forward. We're going to do civil rights suits, dispiracy against rights, all this stuff.
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Starting point is 01:59:42 Sign up today. Experience the amazing benefits and fight for liberty all at once. Thank you. If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance. In February of 2025, researchers from the Coffre Research Project, including Dr. Nicole Sicolo, Professor Felipeo Biondi, Dr. Amando, me, and Professor Corrado Malanga, announced the detection of extensive subterranean anomalies beneath the pyramid of Coffre, utilizing SAR technology or synthetic aperture radar in collaboration with Capella space.
Starting point is 02:00:38 the team identified chambers, corridors, and vertical shafts extending at least one kilometer deep, or 3,280 feet deep, with dimensions mirroring the pyramid scale. Can advanced technology be lost and rediscovered centuries later? Is it possible that an ancient culture had knowledge of and used electrical power? When such electrons are given the chance to bypass sections of, sections of rock via metal wire, quite large currents can flow. Limestone, dolomite, granite. Supposedly constructed for a tomb are, in fact, analogous to the exact materials we use to make electrical wires.
Starting point is 02:01:26 They also share a relationship with pressure, which increases their electroconductivity. In 1993, a mysterious and inaccessible room was discovered after remaining hidden. for thousands of years. Appearing to have deliberately been concealed by the structure's engineers, the room came to be called the Queen's Chamber and was finally explored in 2011
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Starting point is 02:02:05 a clear wiring diagram. Is what we are witnessing the unveiling of a massive ancient power source? Or is there more to this potentially human history altering discovery? Edgar Casey, a Kentucky-born psychic who gave 14,000 trans readings in the early 20th century, spoke extensively about a hidden hall of records tied to ancient civilizations, particularly Atlantis and Egypt. Casey's take straight from his readings was that this Hall of, of records is a literal time capsule buried near the great sphinx at geiza egypt he pinpointed it between
Starting point is 02:02:45 the sphinx and the river saying it holds the history of atlantis stashed by survivors around 10,500 bcc he described three such halls worldwide one under giza another in the bahamas near bimini and a third in the yucatan the egyptian one he said is linked to the sphinx right paul with chambers leading to a pyramid-shaped vault packed with tablets and artifacts. Casey also tied its discovery to a global wake-up call, saying it'd be unearthed when humanity's ready for a shift during changes in the earth. Since the early 2000s, the speed at which the poles have shifted increased to around 34 miles per year with a total displacement over the past 40 years of roughly 620 to 683 miles
Starting point is 02:03:36 from its position in the mid-80s. Casey's predictions have been tied to the emerald tablets of Thoth, the Atlanteanian, translated by Maurice Doriel. Its origins are debated with some viewing it as a modern esoteric creation. It claims to channel Thoth, an Atlantean priest king who shaped early Egyptian civilization. The tablets describe the halls as a hidden complex beneath the earth, serving as a repository of Atlantean knowledge and a portal for spiritual,
Starting point is 02:04:06 The recent Giza findings, vast, unexplained subterranean structures, align with these narratives, particularly Thoth's claim of a building beneath the pyramids, yet the leap from radar anomalies to a 36,000-year-old Atlantean complex requires further investigation that the Egyptian government is unwilling to undertake. The incredible thing about what they're doing is this is space-based, you know, they're using space-based platforms to do this. And I think that's one of the reasons why they may be able to circumvent some of the restrictions placed by the Egyptian government, because, you know, what are you going to do about satellites passing over your region taking scans? At this point, I think that's just fair game until they create rules against it, which they're probably hurriedly trying to do in the light of these revelations. John Bound, reporting for Infowars. When you think Second American Revolution, when you think 1776, when you think about what's happening in the world right now, you think about what's happening in the world right now, you think about why. One place, and that's the Info War, because you're the Info War.
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Starting point is 02:06:31 he's about to expose the massive covert persecution against myself and him for words in a moment. But here's a little primer on the Polweiss, Aiken Gump, Costco, Costco, Democrat firms that are getting in trouble and being sanctioned by Trump that have been running this against me. Here's a little primer. Alex Jones. Yeah, so we were after him. You are? What we wanted?
Starting point is 02:06:54 Which is what? He took his money away. Alex Jones' platform, the E-12. talks about away, I ask that you make certain he can't rebuild. Is there going to be a large set of plaintiffs who are going to be dividing up the corpse of Info Wars and the bankruptcy of state? And over the course of that process, that could get very, very dangerous for Mr. Jones. Where is Alex Jones when that happens?
Starting point is 02:07:21 Is in the studio? Get rid of any palace? Or would you stop at it? And if you're out there right now and you're one of Alex Jones's, Audience members, and you're considering giving him money, I just want you to know that based on the jury's verdict today, it's not a very good bet. Leave him out of this discourse, of this misinformation,
Starting point is 02:07:45 of this peddling of lies, and make sure he can't do it again. So you were the top lawyer of providing advice to the FBI in Connecticut. In-house, yes, sir. In-house, yes, sir. Once the first time you watched the video of Mr. Helvet on Mr. Jones's show, I would be guessing, sir, but I would say approximately like 2016. Where were you when you saw that?
Starting point is 02:08:09 I was sitting in my office on the second floor at FBI New Haven. You didn't file suit at that point in 2016? No, at that point I couldn't get anybody to help me. You were looking? By then, I had pretty certain by 2016, I had contacted the agents association. I had been looking for people. I've been asking the U.S. Attorney's Office to help me at it. I've been asking that the FBI knew Haven to help me.
Starting point is 02:08:34 So yes, I was looking for help. How many times did Jones call you? He didn't call me, sir. Did you ever see this photograph 289 on Info Wars? I didn't, no, sir. Do you know whether he ever talked about you on Info Wars? I don't. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:08:53 Alex Jones. Yeah, so we were after him. You are? What we wanted? Which is what? He took his money away. Shop his life. I've never met Kyle Serafin in person.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Interview him a few times. He's been on a lot of our guests. He lives here in Austin. Great guy. He is one of the whistleblowers of whistleblowers. Did so much. Put his career on the line, now former FBI agent. I don't even know if he wants Trump to try to bring him back.
Starting point is 02:09:21 He's been promoting a lot of whistleblowers in leadership positions. But the first thing he exposed was the Virginia, transgender, rapes in bathrooms, literally Obama behind the scenes involved. Manipos came out to cover that up. and then the DEI, and then he exposed a bunch of other stuff as well. And so I want to recap that, but I was saying, hey, you know so much. I want to get your take on the new Signal Houthi Strike leak fiasco. And I want to get what else.
Starting point is 02:09:55 He goes, well, one of my associates, you didn't see off records. Tell me, shut up, I'm not supposed to say this. You're good. I'm good. One of his people currently in the FBI has now gotten into the, the Epstein files that they've been trying to hide. So, so Pam Bondi does have a task force, 24 hours a day. It is their main task.
Starting point is 02:10:15 Hundreds of additional child victims found, as she said on Fox. We're getting it confirmed from a credible FBI source whistleblower from his current sources. This is huge. And he's got so much more here today, Kyle Serafin, Air Force veteran, FBI veteran. Now he does a podcast, The InfoWarrafan Show, dot local. locals.com and Carl Seraphon on X, call serifanshow.com, rumble.com call seraphon.
Starting point is 02:10:43 And so we've got him into the next hour, so much to hit, but because he came here to get into this FBI document or group of just cover sheets basically that says a lot when you're a layperson. We went and researched and called some of our sources. But this came out like five weeks ago. He just learned about the last few weeks.
Starting point is 02:11:04 It was blown away. He went to a deep dive on it. He knows the codes on it. He knows what it really means. And boy, now this is even crazier. So we did a four-year, about a year and a half ago, of the Biden administration for any files on our shows. We've done it before, never get a response back. Then it's marked two days into Trump's administration 60 days ago.
Starting point is 02:11:25 They mail it to us. It takes about a week to get to us. And you can see right here, federal bureau of investigation, out of Virginia. and it was Chase that did the request. I said, they never respond to me. Maybe you could do it as a journalist. So Chase, Brennan Geiser, and then we get this disc in the mail. So it shows Trump obviously is in there ordering just massive releases, stuff they've been holding up,
Starting point is 02:11:51 as he promised transparency. And here's the actual disc and the paper that it came in. And then here are the documents that we already published these online back when we got these. again about five weeks ago. Now, we can put these HD on screen and have Kyle go over it, but here's our headline from him on Sunday night with Chase. Highloafi whistleblower exposed a secret FBI espionage program seeking to jail Alex Jones. And this level three person and set up in 2013, now it makes sense why they sent Jeffrey Goldberg to say,
Starting point is 02:12:25 I'm here from Obama, I'm not here to interview you. We want to know who you work for it. I'm like, it's me. Then when they all sued me, the Justice Department behind it, that's all come out. Now we have new documents. we haven't released yet because it's so incredible. We're getting more. They keep saying, who do you work for?
Starting point is 02:12:39 Who do you work for? They have the Justice Department coming to the bankruptcy and have me read the U.S. code where if I say anything wrong, they're going to prosecute me. And they had the court order four investigations with $3.5 million of the money coming in here. We had to pay for it outside accounting firms. And they had PI firms out of Dubai that worked for MI6, try to infiltrate, try to pay off crew members. Literally, tell us he rapes women.
Starting point is 02:13:02 tell us he has gold hidden. Tell us what drugs he's on. They're like, are you insane? So then we set up cameras, had him infiltrated. We went to the FBI about that last year. The office and FBI. We went in and told him. So just like when the FBI came, it was actually the CIA through a law firm.
Starting point is 02:13:20 But it was an FBI operation. The first year of Trump's administration offered me $3 million from the Internet research group. That's the Russians. It wasn't them. And I went to my lawyers. We went to another FBI office and filed that and said, We know it's another office. So I'm always scratching the service.
Starting point is 02:13:34 I'm going to shut up now. But imagine how much resources, this is what I know about, have been spent trying to find something that I'm doing wrong. And I've said it. In the past, I drank too much, and I speed sometimes my car. That's it. Okay? I mean, I'm a workaholic. But I have a good time sitting in my backyard, you know, in the pool, throwing the football to my kids.
Starting point is 02:13:56 So I'm blessed that I'm not some kind of gangster. but they treated me like Lex Luther, though I now have the haircut. So to go over this, all of them are trying to shut up. Kyle will give you the floor. Then we'll get into the really big Epstein breaking news with you. Thank you so much for being here. That's my pleasure.
Starting point is 02:14:11 You know what's interesting when you look at this stuff too? Look at how much they actually gave you in excuses versus what they gave you in production. You got two cover sheets that are mostly redacted. That's pretty much what you got. And then you've got this. And this is all the excuses on why they're not going to give you what you want. We're going to just give you paragraph after paragraph of excuses and explanations
Starting point is 02:14:29 and these are the exemptions. And everything you do when you're dealing with the FBI, especially in the FOIA process, is as a way to get to the word no. They're looking for a way to say no to you. Well, I always found that really interesting. I actually got into some FOIA as well. So I did a FOIA suit where we were trying to get access
Starting point is 02:14:44 to something really simple. We wanted a presentation that was done in an unclassified setting that was done in the Hoover building. I had a person that was in that meeting, and they were doing a lampooning for a full hour of congressional investigations into the FBI, by the, I think it was the 118th Congress. Are we on the 119th now? Is that right?
Starting point is 02:15:03 Yes. Okay. So this was in November of 2020, three. And we couldn't get it. They showed us a video of them setting up the podium, and they showed us the slide that said, do you have any questions, comments, or sarcastic remarks at the end? That's it.
Starting point is 02:15:17 You don't get anything that you're looking for. So when we're looking at this stuff here, and we're specifically looking at what Chase got, let's just dig into it for a second. Because it says a couple of fun things. Thing number one, it's unclassified. There's no real reason for them to hide it from you. But we've got a type 3 assessment.
Starting point is 02:15:31 There are about six or seven different types of assessment. That's the lowest level of investigation that the FBI does. Assessment are before you get into what are called preliminary investigations. And then you have full investigations. The presence of an assessment does not mean that there is no full investigation. It just means it can keep open for a long time. And this one in particular is an 801I, like India, which I had a buddy look up because I didn't use those. It's a human intel product, which means they were actually investigating, looking
Starting point is 02:15:58 either for sources or they were looking for human information sources. Human is the slang term for intelligence coming in human format. It also says BS on here, which tells us the field office it's originating out of, which is Boston. Now, you guys don't operate out of Boston as far as I know. No, we don't. But it sounds like Austin. So maybe they thought that was good idea.
Starting point is 02:16:18 It is in the Northeast, which is kind of interesting. And you've got the Boston office up there. And guys, if you can scroll through, I know you show the coverage. He just as he talks, you have them. Scroll through, please. we're looking at a case that they don't even use this type of this classification anymore. They don't use this sort of terminology, but white racially motivated extremist is really interesting. Today they call those radically motivated violent extremists, RMVEs.
Starting point is 02:16:40 So they've actually added the term violence into it, and I'd be shocked if they hadn't actually updated this into something newer. This is 2019 as things progress. The FBI is constantly naming things in new ways, using new acronyms. And by the way, that RMVE acronym was the same thing that they referred to traditional Latin Catholic Mass. goers. They use that same exact term. It's the slang term for white supremacy. But it goes to a broader problem here. Because theoretically, anybody would look at what you guys do and call you journalists, would they not? Is that a reasonable thing? It's the same problem we had with Project Veritas. You showed sound investigations. I know the people that were involved in that. I don't actually
Starting point is 02:17:14 agree with the findings on there. They was a pretty low-level person that you were interviewing. But when you talk about going after journalists as an FBI, you said it really clearly. They spent a bunch of money. They had opportunity cost. Somebody spent their time, their government paycheck and the hours that they were allotted to work on behalf of the federal government to look for what? Wrongdoing by Alex Jones? In the same way, I found out they were doing the same thing in New Mexico. They were looking into what they called radical, what do they call them?
Starting point is 02:17:40 Anti-abortion violent extremists because there were two abortion clinics in New Mexico and Texas had a heartbeat law. And so rather than look for, I don't know, cartel members coming across the border in New Mexico, rather than looking into things like do we have terrorists sneaking across the border because they're able to be trafficked and weapons and other things. No, we're going to look into a pill mill that gives morning after pills, and that's where we sent FBI agents in the national security sphere. So there's an opportunity cost for how many hours in the day that they're going to spend,
Starting point is 02:18:09 and are they going to investigate you and other journalists, and are they going to do it the right way? They're supposed to call you a SIM, by the way. There's a book that actually tells you how to investigate. It's called the Domestic Investigation Operations Guide. That's the handbook for how to be an FBI agent. It tells you how to open cases. And one of the things is if somebody is an academic,
Starting point is 02:18:26 if they're a religious figure, if they're a politician, if they're someone of high note, if they're a podcaster, a blogger, a social media influencer, or a member of the media, they're supposed to be called a sensitive investigative matter, which means they give you additional protections. That means that things are supposed to be reviewed by higher levels, like attorneys, so they don't infringe on the First Amendment.
Starting point is 02:18:44 And I don't see that marked in here, which is kind of interesting, why they decided they could get away without doing that. Well, look, I mean, you first exposed, this exact same type of designation as white supremac crap with families that didn't want the cover-up of one particular young man posing as a woman raping girls in a bathroom. And then parents come and raise their voice.
Starting point is 02:19:07 And then now here comes the FBI, find something on these families. And they tried to say, oh, it came from the school board. But now we know it was memos from the Democrats all the way down in the Biden administration. It's actually even more insidious than that. Because the thing that I actually disclosed was that the attorney general seemed to have lied in front of Congress, which is a very concrete allegation. The issue is that there is a reason that the FBI might investigate a parent who's at a school board meeting and causing a problem if they are making threats over the internet, if they're doing it online. There's a way that you can have that happen.
Starting point is 02:19:34 It's called interstate threats. There's a statute for it. It's kind of low-level stuff, and it's probably not worth the FBI's time. But what the Attorney General said, this is Merrick Garland going back a little ways now. We're talking about an Attorney General who stepped up and said, we will not be using Patriot Act tools. We will not be using counterterrorism tools to go after parents at school board meetings. and then the assistant director of counterterrorism generated a threat tag to be able to tag the intelligence on these cases. And that's the real issue.
Starting point is 02:19:59 If you're doing a criminal investigation, we actually are not going to have a lot of danger in that. Because there's going to be a process. It's linear and they end. They go in and they look for evidence. They look for the actual crime. There has to be a crime there in the first place. And then once it's over, you're like, okay, fine. Like straight line, either we're going to prosecute, we're going to decline to prosecute.
Starting point is 02:20:14 They'll settle. Maybe they'll plea. Maybe we'll convict them. Maybe they'll be acquitted. The end. What we're talking about are intelligence cases. And that's what this thing came out of. This came out of an intelligence squad that did intelligence work, which is information for its own sake.
Starting point is 02:20:27 They're not looking for a crime. There's no allegation that there's wrongdoing in here. There's no way to say, oh, under the U.S. Code, this is a racially motivated violent extremist group. Because it doesn't exist. It's not defined under U.S. Code. You can define domestic terrorism. You can define international terrorism. You can't define what an extremist is because that's like...
Starting point is 02:20:45 And that's just like disinformation. Oh, you two men can have a baby. You're disinformation. Oh, you don't like your daughter getting raped. your disinformation, you're an extremist. And so expand, I mean, we just saw in Colorado, the legislature say, anything we say is offensive can't be displayed here. And so it says 2A shall not be infringed on the state reps laptop.
Starting point is 02:21:05 Right. And so they say, you can't display that. We say it's offensive. But so, so I was watching you on Chase talk about this. And it's the fact that you know how to read the codes on here and learn more about what it is. And there's so many other documents it means hundreds of them attached to this. and so this is started by Obama ongoing. We were not even sure it could still be ongoing.
Starting point is 02:21:26 It's probably not even the only operation. Speak to that and knowing what you know. I mean, clearly, what were they hoping to get here? Because we've also had all these other attempts in infiltration, Southern Party Law Center, got some people on the payroll to do really illegal stuff. I haven't even gone to the government about that. They published it and bragged about it, hacked into the surveillance cameras, tried to find me doing something bad, didn't.
Starting point is 02:21:50 Worst they had was me, you know, drinking vodka at midnight with my shirt off and nobody's here, so much I work. Someone of us sleep here. And I don't do that anymore, folks. The point is, I mean, that's what they still published it. But isn't it interesting, it's Southern Poverty Law Center? Those are the exact same people that generated the Intel product that said that Catholics who go to Latin Mass are the problem? I mean, that's really, it's the same group. You said, you're terrorists.
Starting point is 02:22:10 They've straight up been discredited by the intelligence sphere. They said, look, these people are, you know, their intel operation. They are pushing forward an agenda. They are partisan, and we can't look at them. they are not a non-biased source of information. So if you are going to use them in an intelligence product, which is probably not, it's not smiled upon, you'd have to find a balancing source.
Starting point is 02:22:28 And their balancing source was the Atlantic. Their balancing source was going out and saying that rosary beads are now like the new tool of white supremacy and oppression. The same Atlantic that says pedophilia is not a problem. The same ones that just said that the Trump administration gave me their war plans. So it's very interesting that the same players always tend to pop up in this space. That, for me, is kind of an indication. You mentioned the numbers.
Starting point is 02:22:49 actually cut off on my copy over here, but it showed that it was serial number, I think, 195 or 196, which means it's we can show the HD document. Yeah, just pull up the HD, go ahead. You've got 190 other cereals in there. And what that means, so people understand, is that this thing has been going on for a long time, that there's about 200. There's a serial. By the time we're talking about
Starting point is 02:23:05 2019, yep. So, 195 means there's 194 documents that come before it. And a serial is literally, it's what comes in series after it. And they could be any numbers of types of documents you do. There could be interviews. There could be source debriefs that are going to be like a placeholder in here. But this was a human
Starting point is 02:23:21 intelligence case, which means they were looking for human sources to report on something, specifically white, radically or racially motivated violent extremist types, somehow associated with Endoval Wars, and that your name came up when they did this. Well, that's what the guy that went to the New York Times wrote an article.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Sure. And then there was another employee and this all happened in the last 10 years through that it started about 10 years ago. And the crew is a troublemakers. They wouldn't really tell me about it until later. They would come into the break room or they'd be driving to do a story about we have more reporters and they'd say
Starting point is 02:23:52 you know I know Alex says he doesn't hate black people but man I hate these N words and they'd be like whoa we're going to get you fired you can't talk like that and they were always trying to get so now it makes sense and now we know they were hooked up with these people well let's get broader too on what the FBI tends to do and we're seeing some of this stuff
Starting point is 02:24:08 they'll set up a problem they solve the problem then they congratulate them for for finding that problem this has been going on for a long time this is not news you can go back into the Muslim community they were doing this in 2005, 2006 2007. This is early George W. Bush time. They were going into mosques and trying to get man radicalized. They still do this. I call it the playbook. There's people in the political left that agree with me on this, by the way. Yeah, they even find, like, usually it's mentally ill
Starting point is 02:24:30 people. And they, sometimes take some years to get them ready to say they're going to do something. Yeah, they cultivate, they groom these people along. They do it through a network of either what are called sources, right? Those are what they call CHS, that's confidential human source. And then they try to introduce someone that's called a UCE that's going to be an online undercover employee, then you have the actual undercover employees. They're trying to get someone along. And essentially, if you find somebody that's on the internet that's communicating with you, and they share all of your dumbest ideas, including anything that's violent,
Starting point is 02:24:58 and they're able to help you do that dumb idea for the exact amount of money that's in your bank account because they happen to be able to look into that as well. Like, you're dealing with someone that is probably setting you up in this federal operation. Now, Trevor Aronson calls it the Terror Factory. He used to write for the intercept. He's no right-wing guy. And he was looking at them, and his belief was that they were going after black and brown people. And then you see what's gone on for January 6ers and people in the Patriot movements and this has gone on.
Starting point is 02:25:20 They were beta testing after 9-11. And it went on before that. I mean, it really did. They tried this earlier. They just didn't have the Internet. It happened with the Black Panther Party and hell up. You could walk this back into the government. They were going to Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 02:25:32 Yeah, exactly right. So you can send this back all the way to the origins of the FBI. There is a small contingent of the FBI that is looking to make work to the point where in my last couple weeks while I was actually at the Bureau, I had a boss that said, hey, man, I need you to go drive out into this county. It's 300 plus square miles. There are 3,000 people that live. Almost all of them live in this one little place. I want you to go to the border checkpoints. I want you to drive around and look for some business.
Starting point is 02:25:55 The business that we did is we went and found spies and terrorists. It was a national security squad. So I don't know where you go in rural New Mexico to find spies and terrorists. It just doesn't really exist. And I went out there and I said, well, you know, Border Patrol guys, what do you got? He's like, well, we got a cartel case. Would you like that? I said, yeah, let me go ask about it.
Starting point is 02:26:08 It's like, well, we could try to spin that and make it national security. At that time, it wasn't really, it wasn't going to take on. but why are we looking for business when there's unlimited amounts of child sex trafficking that goes on there's unlimited amounts of gangs that are going out and moving drugs and people and the Atlantic says it doesn't exist. That's right, of course. I mean, literally.
Starting point is 02:26:26 So, and they just happen to be huge Jeffrey Epstein alumni and Jeff Goldberg just so happens to be an Israeli agent basically, but everything's all right. Everything's fine, yeah. And the problem is we've got to go after people that are journalists. We've got to go people that are going to disrupt any of our narrative. And look, at the end of the day, I don't have to agree with everything that you say,
Starting point is 02:26:43 turns out, and you don't have to agree with everything I say, but you have a right to say it in this country, and you have a right for your government not to be investigating you without probable. Also, most of the time they misrepresent what they claim I've said or Trump has said. I listened, I sat in a meeting. This is actually in New Mexico as well. So I worked last in the Los Cruces resident agency.
Starting point is 02:27:00 It was underneath the Albuquerque Field Office. And we were hearing somebody that they wanted to investigate. I was listening to. I was sitting on the Intel squad. I'm sitting on the National Security Squad. And so we had a dedicated Intel person, intelligence analyst. And she's sitting there and she's making fun of a guy that they're thinking about opening an investigation into. And they said, look, here's his website.
Starting point is 02:27:20 And it redirects to Info Wars. He listens to Alex Jones. And that was used as derogatory information. And they were having this yuck up fest, her and this other guy that's working there. So there's a cadre of people. A bunch of wocus is. That's the thing. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 02:27:33 And they were also the same ones that made sure we watched every single minute of Kedengi Jacksonie Brown's confirmation hearing. We had to have that on the television. They were really upset that Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted. So these are ideological actors. And this is what the FBI is right now. This is why having Cash Patel in there, having a Dan Bongino in there, that's like the coin toss in the big game. It's like landing on the beach and the landing craft opening and people stepping into the water.
Starting point is 02:27:56 We haven't taken the territory back. Exactly. It's just a beachhead. That's right. And our guys are on the beach and people are bitching. Do more. Do more. Well, on top of that, you're also seeing this.
Starting point is 02:28:05 And this is something I brought along with me because I found it kind of interesting. I don't know this woman. She might be a really nice lady. She probably is. Her name's Kim George. She apparently is running for Congress. in Arizona. She's a former FBI agent. We've never interacted. So full disclosure. But when I see this kind of stuff and I see other retired FBI agents going forward and saying,
Starting point is 02:28:20 thank God they're now recognizing the good men and women of the FBI. These are the same good men and women of the FBI that went out and served every single warrant for January 6th that persecuted and got rid of every single one of their coworkers who decided not to get the COVID vaccines. It's every single one of these people who said nothing when they could have said something, because I know that I wasn't the only person who saw the stuff that I saw and brought that Stay right there. We could pull this up. It was like a week after Biden got in in 2021.
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Starting point is 02:33:41 It's crazy. The real war is here with the globalist and sorrows. Alexjones.network is tomorrow's news today. All right, Kyle Serrafin, is the top FBI whistleblower that exposed so much. It would take two hours to get into that. But famously, the first thing was targeting mainline conservative catalyst. and other parents that were protesting literal transgender rapes and girls' bathrooms in Virginia, and they came in and tried to intimidate them and threatened them.
Starting point is 02:34:27 But right away when Biden got in, and then later in June of 2021, they put out the National Security Directive, we've shown up many times saying the main threat is domestic extremism, white supremacy. Then they define white supremacy as being as, you know, left of Ronald Reagan. I mean, it's wild, and you witness this. Well, he likes Alex Jones, let's investigate him. I mean, just like, I'm just a sticker you put on something as Satan. And then there's the whole issue of a national security investigation, dragnet, ongoing, going back to 2013 order by Obama.
Starting point is 02:35:00 And who knows what's even still going on? And then we do a for your, they don't release it. Trump gets it. And they release a little bit of it. I mean, this is a window into all of this. And as you were saying, Kosh Patel came out and said, he didn't say abolish the FBI. He said abolish the big.
Starting point is 02:35:16 DC office of intelligence and making a museum of how not to be tyrannical. And that's the point. I thought it's the CIA. They're not supposed to operate domestically. But having the FBI do this open-ended intelligence stuff is just an excuse for political persecution, I think, is what you were getting at. So in my own selfish interest, but it's also, like I said, a window into this. We know a lot of what was going on, but knowing from the document coding, clearly they were trying to find something. What is my recourse?
Starting point is 02:35:42 Sounds like a conspiracy against my rights. It's a decade, 12, 13-year program going on. I mean, what does this mean? Well, you've got to understand what the FBI is and what it isn't. I broke this down with Chase a little bit, but any time I get a chance to tell an audience that is listening and votes in America, I want them to know this. The FBI is basically two animals, and it's drilled into one.
Starting point is 02:36:00 I used to, when I was working there and I was working in counterintelligence, I said it was sort of like a hammer with a screwdriver that's welded on the end of it. So it's a really crappy hammer. It doesn't get close to things. It's awkwardly weighted. And then it also has this screwdriver, which is like the intelligence tool. And it's not really meant to do that because it's heavy and it's got that hammer on the under end where you're trying to screw stuff in. And intelligence is a very different animal.
Starting point is 02:36:20 As you said, CIA is not supposed to operate domestically. And yet they do. Of course they do. They operate under this thing called National Resource Group. So National Resource is a thing where they go and they recruit, let's say, Americans who might be of high prominence. And they're going to travel overseas. They're going to go out and do things that would be interesting to the CIA's mission. Here's where it gets kind of interesting.
Starting point is 02:36:36 And I don't want to step into conspiracy realm because it's not conspiracy. But we know they use EPA money, USA money, all that stuff. Well, all that stuff happens overseas. but what happens that's really interesting and a lot of people don't realize this. There's no classification behind this. It's just not well known. The FBI entered into a partnership.
Starting point is 02:36:49 This is a post-9-11 situation. I got a buddy who actually was in this program. Then he wasn't able to do it because of COVID. He was an FBI agent that went to go train at the farm to become a CIA case officer while still being an FBI agent. You can do that and operate domestically. You learn how the CIA runs all their assets. You learn how they do recruitment.
Starting point is 02:37:10 You learn how they run people as human sources. really become a double agent in a lot of cases. And you come back into the FBI with that skill set, with that knowledge, you put the badge and the gun back on after three to five years of running them domestically in Atlanta, or you can do it in San Francisco, I think, Los Angeles, there's a couple other cities where you can go do this. You come back into the FBI and then you run human squads. And interestingly enough, 801I, that's a human squad that opened that sort of case in Boston,
Starting point is 02:37:35 that assessment. And you met human intelligence. That's right. So you've got people that basically are analysts that are looking for human intelligence, and you have agents that are supposed to be theoretical. trained specifically to recruit sources, but not to generate cases. They're meant to generate. So bottom line, it's an espionage case against me.
Starting point is 02:37:51 Espionage is the wrong word. Spying would be kind of broad. What I would say is they're gathering information. They're doing intelligence work. And intelligence work is specifically information for its own sake. So if you'll give me just one kind of like linear thing, we talked about criminal, that's a crime happens, we go find the evidence, we go to prosecution, that's the end of it. We just put you in jail or we don't.
Starting point is 02:38:09 But then you've got intel cases, and those are circles, and they just spin off more circles. They're like a whirlpool full of vortexes, and they just can spin off more and more cases. So what they'll do is they'll open it up. Let's say they open it up on InfoWars. They open it up on a journalistic outfit. And they say, yeah, these people are, they're white supremacists, and we need to monitor them.
Starting point is 02:38:25 We need to find out who they're talking to. We need to find out who those people are talking to. And we're just going to keep looking until we find the thing that we want. And then maybe we find something that has nothing to do with it. The worst case example of this when I was working in Washington, D.C., is that we had a guy who had an active intelligence investigation under counterterrorism for like 23 years. And then they found that he was doing child pornography trading on his computer after a decade and a half.
Starting point is 02:38:48 Now, nobody wants anybody to be trading in child pornography. But we also don't want. Well, maybe they planted it like Cheryl Atkinson. Which is something that I would have never said could have happened until after I got out and you start looking. You go, I don't trust these people. They investigated me because I followed the law. I had them try to plant child porn on us, the Democrats. The FBI actually out of Connecticut, though, released a memo and said, no, you're the victim.
Starting point is 02:39:06 You never opened it. But they ran with it in the media that I had child porn. And this is the thing. Like, we've gotten to a point where we are. so deep in the weeds where we cannot trust the institutions that exist. That's the legacy of 2020, 2021, where we just, they weaponized government. Part of weaponization is using government against you. The other piece of it is saying, like, these things used to be something that had some honorable people of some repute, and they tarnished all those folks, which is why I see people that are
Starting point is 02:39:30 cheering on a new FBI with a new head. Look, the entire FBI employee pool of 38,000 people are still in place. And some of them are good people. And some of my friends are working on trying to redact S-Steen files are trying to get that forward. I know you want to get there. And some of them are just cheering on the status quo and they'll do whatever they're told. And some people are actively working against it. And those people got to go. I forgot this. When we got this five weeks ago, I thought, because I was researching, and I guess you with more knowledge of pointing this out,
Starting point is 02:39:58 they need a source like Atlantic or New York Times claiming something to then use as an excuse to open it. The ADL, weeks before this investigation, falsely put out a report about me saying I called for killing Mexicans on the border. I actually had my lawyer, send a letter. They actually took that out, because I never said, go kill people at the border. But that's probably what they used to start that. Allegation or information that there was a crime. So you're using interstate means to communicate. So there you have it. And then you start looking, are those interstate threats against somebody? Can we at least investigate it at the very lowest? You could open an assessment into it. So sure. Yeah, you just need an allegation. And then you said the source. The source could be just a person,
Starting point is 02:40:39 by the way. It could be someone who calls up the tip line in West Virginia, anonymously says, hey, I got this real problem. That's how they opened a ton of January 6 cases. You know, I know for a fact, I've got buddies who are in, let's say, the American North. I don't want to get too more specific than that. And they're working on cases that they threw out because it was bad predication. They were told, do you know who the sedition hunters were? Yes. Remember those? And most of them seem to be foreign, and they seem to be funded by the DOJ. They're getting paid as sources. They were actually predicating January 6 cases off off human source allegations from the sedition hunters, and the FBI agents were getting these files,
Starting point is 02:41:15 and they were being told, do not predicate it based on the source. Do not reference the source. Go to what they have posted online. Look at that, and then you can decide whether or not you're going to open a case. And the sort of the wink, wink, nudge, nudge was, you will open a case. And those very groups were always pointing me and all and everybody out. Of course. Yeah, no, they weren't going and highlighting anybody they didn't like, and they did it for political, you know, for political gain.
Starting point is 02:41:35 When I was working in the bureau, I was working for the Washington Field Office, and I was on a surveillance team. We were sitting outside of a house of a person of interest. I'm dancing around words, but that's the most accurate thing. A person of interest, somebody who seemed to be tied to the pipe bomber case. And all we wanted to do was go into a knock and talk. That's where you just knock on the door. And I say, hey, I'm with the FBI. It sounds like you got yourself in the trouble. Would you like to talk to me? By the way, if anybody ever has that knock, if you're listening to InfoWords and you get that, ABCD, those are the words you need to remember, always be closing the door. You don't need to talk to the FBI. I wouldn't
Starting point is 02:42:04 recommend it. I wouldn't talk to the FBI today. I voluntarily made very, very small numbers of contact since I've been out, and I do it on a recorded line every single time, and then they end up on like the Sean Ryan show, or they end up in the public because I am going to protect myself. But I also knew who I'm talking to on the other end. There's no reason to talk to the Bureau. But if they did come and do that knock and talk, that's what we wanted to go do. This is right after January 6th. This is January 2021. And instead, what they did is said, you know what, don't do surveillance on this guy. Don't do the thing that you and your team have spent many hours cultivating, and we have tens of thousands of dollars of technology deployed into the field to go
Starting point is 02:42:38 do, why don't you come back, sit at your desk, and why don't you look through anonymous complaints from Americans who are alleging that their neighbors in a hole and like Ronald Reagan, and therefore he probably was that January 6th, and we don't really like him. And that's what they had us do. We were going through hundreds of them, and it goes to the point that we were talking about earlier. There are things in this country that are protected by the First Amendment. It turns out your political speech online should be, and unless you are making a clear and direct threat, there's no reason for the FBI to be coming and listening to you because there are bigger problems.
Starting point is 02:43:06 No, I totally agree. Let's go back to what you just said before we went to break. And I agree with you. We are on the beach. We haven't even gotten the beachhead. Trump got driven off the beach four years ago. And you notice they're trying to sap their energy having them all testifying Congress right now. And my job's not being an apologist. When I see something Trump even begins to do, I don't like, I'll go right after it. Like him saying, yeah, maybe we'll join the British Commonwealth. No, you won. But for people that just think they can wave a magic wand, they have no idea. So the FBI protects the FBI historically and has done this. Basically, every time since Hoover, it has always sort of tried to bubble wrap and isolate the FBI director. That person is a figurehead and that person goes out and provides vision and this is where we're going to go with it. And this is what it's all about. And then you have a person called the deputy director. And the deputy director is a long term, long time, almost always FBI agent. We've had our first example that I can be aware of where that isn't the case.
Starting point is 02:44:01 That's Dan Bongino. And so what happens is someone who's promoted. it up through the ranks. Usually they got four or five or maybe six years worth of working cases, which is the business of the FBI. Then they move into management. They spend a decade and change in that culture. Post-9-11, that culture is pretty disgusting. And it's actually very heavy to the intel side, heavy to that we can learn about it because we have tools to do so, even if it's not criminal predicates, even if it's not investigations that are ever going to hold up to court scrutiny, because we just look for information for its own sake. Then you've got
Starting point is 02:44:28 those people, and they come in and they protect the rest of the FBI from the director. So the director, even Chris Ray, if he had good ideas, which I don't think he did. But let's say he did have good ideas, and he wasn't part of this sort of uniparty establishment, he still would have been isolated. And the first couple weeks that Cash Patel was there, I know for a fact that happened, because I have friends who have been moved into the Hoover building right now, who are part of the counterinsurgency, which is what we're talking about. In the same way, Beachhead, you've got to go and take ground back that has been conquered
Starting point is 02:44:55 by somebody else. And the bureaucracy's been building these fortresses for a two decades. We're just like the New York FBI had that they had resigned that was hiding in the Epstein files. He was in email saying, we're in a war. Don't do it. You're the resistance. And I'm like, how was he not instantly fired? Then when he wouldn't give over the Epstein files, they made him resign.
Starting point is 02:45:14 But, I mean. No, he retired with all of his benefits. Credible arrogance. Yeah, that's the thing. And so what did he say? He said, dig in. I used an e-tool when I was in marine training. And so I'm saying that here.
Starting point is 02:45:23 Now, dig in and fight back and that you should defend it. And then... That's saying trumps the enemy. Listen what it says more broadly. They were very upset about something very narrow. What was asked for were certain types of people that were involved in prosecuting cases regarding January 6th. That's something Donald Trump ran on and he was elected on that basis. You keep seeing the political left run this interference right now saying,
Starting point is 02:45:44 oh, we got to, you know, I can't believe that Donald Trump was able to turn what happened on 9-11. I mean, on January 6th, they've made those one and the same in my mind. And so they're trying to turn that around. They're trying to make this thing still play. It reminds me of the, what is it, the mean girls where she says you want to, You keep trying to make fetch happen. They're trying to do something that can't be done. So let me ask you this.
Starting point is 02:46:02 They honed in on something, but check this out, Alex. Who did the people who wanted to protect these FBI agents hire? Did they go hire some nonpartisan law firm? Did they go find some people that was a former United States attorney that has like a really sterling reputation and cut down the middle from some sort of like middle of the road state? No. They wouldn't got Norm Eisen and Mark Zaid. They wouldn't got the most partisan leftist people.
Starting point is 02:46:21 And they hired, they hired Costco and Costco that for the Democrats ran the fake trials against me. they hired Chris Maddie, the former federal prosecutor, especially he's putting Republicans in jail. This is a thing. It's a thing specifically in certain areas. There are some soft seats where you can charge people. Southern District in New York. In the district of D.C. You can do it in EDVA, which is Eastern District of Virginia. There are places where it is easier for the government to come at it because everybody who works there, the jury pool, all the people that work there are dependent on government. So you have this sort of what we call it the self-looking ice cream cone. If nobody's ever heard that, you've been around the Beltway. The self-licking ice cream only exists because it has a tongue and it's ice cream and it doesn't need the actual. purpose of the mission. The FBI is self-serving, and it has been for quite a long time,
Starting point is 02:47:01 and the number one sin, the number one crime in the FBI is actually not committing a crime. It turns out. The number one crime in the FBI is embarrassing the FBI. That's one of the reasons why I don't work there. I did that thing. I said, no, I'm not going to go get a COVID swab every 72 hours. You're out of your damn minds. I've got a top secret clearance. I've been a paramedic for like a decade. I'm not going to put something up my nose to tell you that I'm a Christian. That's not going to happen. Which we now know is sold of the Chinese. Well, not only that, but that stuff was ethylene oxide, which is a known carcinogen by the state of California, as far left as you can get.
Starting point is 02:47:29 They were worried about this stuff. As someone who's done literally hundreds, if not thousands of nasal swabs, I used to work at North Austin Medical Center. Before I went into the FBI, I did nasal swabs for the flu, and you do it once a year maybe. You want me to do that every 72 hours? You've lost it. I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 02:47:44 And by the way, the only people they asked to do that were Christians. Christians who had pro-life objections. It's all harassment to purge you, just like the shots and the transgender group. And they found out who the people that were going to say no were. That's the big thing. And they tried to purge those people. So it doesn't matter. That's what this S means, by the way.
Starting point is 02:47:59 It's the people that identify that said, no, I'm not going to say yes to what you want to do. Like, I don't work for you. I work under the Constitution. What's the stand for? Suspendables. All the people that knew that they would get suspended from their job would do the right thing, whether the cost was losing their job or not.
Starting point is 02:48:13 Yeah, it's a litmus test. The white martyr demo. We've got a lot more to get into in the Epstein stuff with your source that, no, indeed, they do have a task force that is 24 hours a day. Your associate, there's someone you know it's still inside. No, it's in the Epstein file. So this is being broadened. they did get all this stuff three weeks ago, as she promised.
Starting point is 02:48:28 They did basically rate it and get it. So that is huge news. I want to get to when we start the next hour in about 12 minutes or 10 minutes. But just big picture, how do you think Trump's doing? What do you recommend should be done with the FBI? What are your concerns? I mean, I'm seeing these Tesla things escalate, the left basically encouraging it. We have, you know, my issue is, why do we have to get the deep state on their criminal activity
Starting point is 02:48:55 and all the stuff behind the scenes going after Trump for stuff, when we've got so many of the bureaucracies and people with billions and billions of dollars. Stacey Abrams, $2 billion out of the EPA money, you know, $375 billion, $20 billion. The last month, Biden sends the bank accounts with no record, and they admit, oh, just to hide it. I mean, that all right there,
Starting point is 02:49:16 they got Al Capone for income tax evasion instead of all the murders because that was easier. And I know Cash Pertell and all of them are really smart. They've got to know to expand the beach. shed and stop this tyranny. We do need indictments quickly, and I hope they're looking at the easiest ways to get people because there's so much theft, there's so much people's family, so much COVID fraud. The documents we haven't released yet are these law firms, and the so-called NGOs,
Starting point is 02:49:44 and these other groups getting federal DOJ money, millions of it, during the suit right before the show trials, and it's COVID money. And then I look at it. We're having lawyers look at it. It doesn't look like it's legal. Kind of like Cory Bush's husband has got indicted. And we haven't put the documents out where I'm telling people we've got the first time here. We have that.
Starting point is 02:50:06 We have so much more. Yeah, I got to see that a little bit. Chase sent me some of that. So I know what you're talking about. And yeah, it looks, look, at the end of the day, the state pays itself, the government feeds the government and the entities that have the interests of the government. So the biggest thing is, and you ask how do you do this? You have to expand that beachhead presence.
Starting point is 02:50:21 You have to be able to take back institutions. So you're not going to see indictments. At the end of the day, do you really, like, you do, you care probably. But most people don't need to see the entire Epstein files. They don't need to see them. It's not relevant to them. What they would like to see are indictments. They'd like to see arrest.
Starting point is 02:50:36 They'd like to see prosecution. They'd like to see jail sentences handed out to people that do evil things. And if you saw that, whether or not you saw the entirety of discovery before it went to court, you don't need that. Like, you just don't if you're an American person. What you want to know is that your institution is working in a way that is not ideologically based, but it's based on the Constitution, not protecting its own. institution, particularly the FBI. And that's why there's such arrogance in the bureaucracy.
Starting point is 02:50:59 Oh, yeah. They think that they have a right to it. They do. They work, like, they work for the FBI. It's not for you. Let me tell you this, Al. This is, this is factually accurate. Between September 3rd and September 7th of 2020, Donald Trump was president at that time, the FBI changed its public-facing website to de-escalate the priorities and the core values of rigid and rigorous obedience to the Constitution of the United States. It went from being number one, which it was when I signed up, to being number seven or eight. And it was behind things like respect and compassion, right? They changed diversity. Which is all nebulous. Yeah, well, no, these are all leftist values. Their feelings. They're like fake compassion. Well, it's them saying we're good so we can. It's a moral argument. That's exactly. We can persecute shoes. I mean, exactly. And that goes back to saying white supremacy is the new main mission, which real white supremac is very rare and it's not good. But then they mislabel everything as white supremacy. being against lockdowns, being against forced shots, being a conservative Catholic. I mean, this is outrageous scandal.
Starting point is 02:51:59 So you're saying you don't think we'll see a bunch of indictments. I think that we won't see them for a little while. I think that my buddies that are working on this said that there's something that needs to be done. Now, look, there's a big difference between burning off a couple of DVDs and bring it over to the United States Attorney's Office and saying, here's what the discovery is. Here's the case we'd like to move forward. This is the individual.
Starting point is 02:52:16 Okay, we started from this predicated investigation. We opened either a subs file or its own investigation on this individual, and they did fill in the blank things. They were involved in human trafficking. They were part of a conspiracy, blah, blah, blah. And then you give it to that. You can give the United States attorney the whole thing, because you're going to give the defense the whole thing in theory.
Starting point is 02:52:31 As long as there's no sources or method to be productive that are part of national security, they're getting a big file with DVDs or multiple DVDs. But you can't just release that to the American people. You can't do that because there are victims that have to be protected, and there are actually laws that fall in, which we want there. So at the end of the day, I don't think you're going to see a huge dump, but they do exist. I had a buddy who was looking at his computer.
Starting point is 02:52:50 He was trying to find another printer. And he's not in an office that's related to anything in Washington, D.C. And he called me up and he goes, hey, man, I was looking in. I was trying to find a printer. I was looking at the shared drive. And suddenly I saw there was a new drive, the P drive, P like Papa. And I opened it up and there's like 16 or 14 terabytes full of files that are named after just the Sviour. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:53:07 Let's keep this till next hour because I tweeted this on X. It's going to go megaviral what you told me off air. So there's such a task force that FBI, you know, is literally in the stuff they don't want out because it's getting distributed. so much. When Pam Bondi says, our main focus is this right now. And you're saying, your guys are like, no, this is going on. I know at least two guys that are geographically disconnected, one at headquarters, one not that are dealing with this stuff, yes. And one, like, he just accidentally
Starting point is 02:53:35 got access to it. He went on, oh, that's cool. I guess they're doing what they said. So that was confirmation part one. A guy who doesn't know him, but I know him independently, reached out and said, we've crashed servers because we are putting so many people into the server to start looking for victim names and redacting the things that need to be done. we are actually stop right there because i know you're like trust me you're a very credible whistleblower you suppose so much what you're saying and you're just like oh yeah it's no big deal yeah there's a bunch of people on it i i'm 51 and i knew a lot when i was younger compared to young people but i was a dumb ass okay when i was younger i thought do this do that well once you actually run something
Starting point is 02:54:09 and this is nothing compared to what pam bondi or cash but i mean this is like zero zero compared folks i mean and i'm not again people are so pissed at Trump administration that there's not all these arrests. We're not in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia. This is due process, folks. And the left's been trying to get rid of that. I saw the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey, you know, really chew people out on the news the other day.
Starting point is 02:54:35 She said, listen, we're not the left that just goes and makes stuff up. But she goes, we got a bunch of bad stuff. And now we've got to process it. I don't think the public realizes what you've got to do. Okay, we have hundreds of child victims that have said they've now discovered. So now they've got to go investigate that. Yeah, there's law that protects those victims and the way that they're disclosed. Let's be really, really fair and honest in both ways.
Starting point is 02:54:55 I'll be charitable, but I'm not going to be overly fair to people that don't need it. This was an unforced error with the binder thing and dancing and doing TikTok videos and putting influencers out there. They didn't need to do that. They could have come in and said, I know we promised you the FECD files on day one. That is not logistically capable now that we've gotten into the office and we understand what we're dealing with. What we're going to do is we're going to protect the victims in accordance with federal law. We're going to push forward for the appropriate indictments. We're going to continue.
Starting point is 02:55:17 going to set up a specific task force, I would have taken them and taken them offline and put them in like Omaha, Nebraska or gotten them out of Washington, D.C. That's not what they did, but they could have. They could have said out there. But what they should have done is said, we're going to get away from all this. We're going to focus in on it. It is a high priority, but we're not going to give anything just yet, but it's not because we don't want to. It's because we are unable to for various reasons, and we understand the scope of the problem. We know what we promise you is not doable. We're going to come up up front and just tell you that. Instead, they said, oh, I got the F-teen files on my desk, and then they made this illusion like, oh, it's at the Southern
Starting point is 02:55:46 District of New York. Like, when I listen to that as someone who used to work for the FBI, the Southern District of New York works for Pam Bondi, whether we agree with that or not, like it does. Like, they actually answer to the AG and saying that it's at the New York field office, these things are actually kept on computers. As I just said, I got a friend who is nowhere near 2,000 miles away from Washington, D.C., and he accidentally had access to these files because they opened up the... But the good news is a lot of them are there, a lot of the really bad stuff we know that never got put in it. And we're working on it with people who are working literally around the clock to the point
Starting point is 02:56:12 where they actually crashed their own servers, which is why I think my buddy actually Stay there. I want you to recap all this. Take your time. We start the next hour. This is big news. Sure. That's what you just said is.
Starting point is 02:56:19 But we got to go to break. But just separately, I know what's going on. They're up there doing all this stuff. They're told here is all there is. Then when she realizes, because other sources, the FBI we've had on, we're telling her, literally that morning they're on the show saying it. And by the evening, she puts a cover sheet on and says, I got scammed. We're going to get it all.
Starting point is 02:56:39 But they still put it out. So the point is, it's very transparent. they went and got it. Now people are processing it. I mean, that's good. Because this is what's going on. They got a lot of stuff going on, folks. And again, we're going to go to break. We're going to come back. We're going to get into this in the
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Starting point is 02:59:49 Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. I looked into... and probably the most famous FBI whistleblower modern history. He's, we can't get into all the till. He's showing me people in the main D.C. operation who are right now investigating the Democrats having an actual security investigation of me, showing me the D.C. field officer.
Starting point is 03:00:30 We're going to get more into that. But some stations don't carry this first five, but everything we still cover in the five is really important. It's just usually off the other topic. We'll go back into the huge Epstein thing. Confirm, mass investigation, new files they were hiding, task force, all of us confirmed from his sources right now. But Trump, this just came out minutes ago.
Starting point is 03:00:48 President Trump signs a presidential memorandum requiring the immediate declassification of all FBI files relating to the crossfire hurricane investigation. We'll play this clip, and then call for those that might have been hiding under a rock, what crossfire hurricane was. You talk about treason, a made-up national security thing trying to demonize and overthrow the electorate's choice Trump at his first administration coming in when he was the candidate, when he was the president-elect, and then once he was president, absolute slow-motion coup attempt.
Starting point is 03:01:19 Here's the club of the president. Next, sir, we have a presidential memorandum for your attention. This memorandum requires the immediate declassification of all FBI files relating to the crossfire hurricane investigation. This was obviously one of the instances of the weaponization of law enforcement, powers of prosecution against you and others. We believe that it's long past time for the American people to have a full and complete understanding of what exactly is in those files.
Starting point is 03:01:45 Which gives the media the right to go in and go and check it. You probably won't bother because you're not going to like what you see. But this was total weaponization. It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace. It never happened in this country. But now you'll be able to see for yourselves, all declassified. Is that correct?
Starting point is 03:02:03 Did you say? All declassified? Yes, sir. Everything? The FBI file with a, there's a classified annex, but other than that, this will put everything. in the public eyes. Is anybody going to look? What about you?
Starting point is 03:02:21 You're going to look? And frankly, the FBI should be ashamed of themselves, and so should the Department of Justice, and so should Biden. Some of folks that don't know about Crossfire Hurricane. Tell them, Kyle. Yeah, Crossfire Hurricane was an intelligence investigation that was spawned outside of,
Starting point is 03:02:43 it was actually out of headquarters, as far as I understand it, and they were looking into the presidential campaign. They wanted to go after a guy who was, looking at being president. This is where it gets kind of really interesting, too, for me, because one of the things that the Obama administration did on the way out, so essentially what they did is they went out and they cultivated sources, they were looking to a guy named Carter Page, and then they ended up jumping using different FISA techniques, some of which include lying to the FISA court, which is a specific court of judges that rotates in Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 03:03:08 It's known as the FISC, foreign intelligence surveillance court, and those people are supposed to do what are called ex parte hearings where they represent the interest of the public. In other words, the FBI comes in and says, here's all the information we have. This is the exculpatory information, which means that it makes them, you know, this actually cuts in favor of the people we want to investigate. Here's what we think they've done that's wrongdoing. And here's why we need to get this information. And we need you to give us some very broad powers to go and investigate.
Starting point is 03:03:33 They went after Carter Page, even though at the time, as I recall, he was like an active CIA source as well. He was reporting to the CIA. So that's pretty crazy. That wasn't disclosed. So they kind of cherry picked around, got some information, falsely presented it. And it was all ideologically based as far as we can tell. And a couple of people lost their job. jobs, guys like Peter Struck, people like Lisa Page.
Starting point is 03:03:50 They ended up getting paid out a million dollars each, by the way, or pretty darn near it. One of them got more and one got a little less. And then you got Andy McCabe, who was the FBI deputy director and the acting director at one point in time when I was working there. He was my first boss in the Washington Field Office of all people. So I walked into this sort of like this crossfire hurricane is a crap storm of just stuff blowing at you of a giant FBI Democrat deep state attack on the candidate Trump. That's a way to say it. That's not wrong either. It's really not.
Starting point is 03:04:15 I mean, that's exactly what went on. And what it showed was, weaponization means that you are using a government agency that actually has an apolitical purpose in theory, even if it's never been used that way. And you are going to use it for your own ends. In the case of the FBI, you had Director Comey, who was there. Actually, I got a funny picture here. You want to see it? Should we show the people? He's like 90 feet tall.
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Starting point is 03:06:30 So fast, incredible FBI, Elizabeth Lord, Kyle Serafitts here. During the breaks, he's showing me talking to folks at the D.C. Main headquarters with the Epstein files that they've finally all gotten, that they're all been on this constantly,
Starting point is 03:06:46 even guys that aren't on it, it's just everywhere. They're not even, it's all just in the FBI. They're not hiding it and siloing it anymore. And it's just massive amounts of new victims. I'm like reading this stuff right now from the FBI. And when Bondi said yesterday, oh, there's hundreds more, and they're just like can't even deal with it.
Starting point is 03:07:04 There's so many. This thing just blew wide open. And you've got the U.S. attorney out of former Trump lawyer out of New Jersey saying, oh, we got a ton of stuff. It's really bad. We got a bunch of victims and a bunch of witnesses, and we've got to go out to interview them all, and it's huge. We're going to do it right, but don't worry.
Starting point is 03:07:19 The bad guys are going to prison. Okay. So we're not Joe Stalin where you just order wherever he wants sent to the gulag or, you know, hung or shot. Okay, we're not the left. They get martial law going and burn up the cities, and we get a real slug out here. It's going to go that way,
Starting point is 03:07:37 and it'll be very hard to turn that off once that goes. So I oppose tyranny from the left and the right. This is a plan with fire here. So everybody that wants immediate action and all this stuff, that's why the left should give up, because you're never getting back in power the way this is going. All you can do is claws into your political grave with you. I mean, even Bill Morris says the Democratic Party's game over, folks.
Starting point is 03:07:58 So, Kyle Serafen, I want you to slow down here, and you can read off that if you can or whatever you want. But recap and then add all of it to it because this is big. You've got multiple FBI sources, one that just sees it everywhere, not even hidden now, not even his investigation. You know, assigned to this. We have the articles in the news, all hands on deck, 24 hours a day, you know, double shifts, main priority Epstein files that they had to get two and a half weeks ago by sending in people from D.C. into New York. then they make the head guy resign, the one that said, dig in and battle Trump.
Starting point is 03:08:32 So everything we've been told is tracking. Yeah, James Denahe. I was looking up his name earlier because I was trying to find him. Also, incidentally, James Dennyhy, who was kind of resisting against this, was supposedly the whistleblower that went to Cory Booker
Starting point is 03:08:44 to try to say that Cash Patel was doing things he wasn't allowed to do legally. So there was a resistance there. This is a problem. I won't say much more about that, but I know a little bit more about it, and I feel pretty comfortable saying that out loud. So we'll say allegedly that's what happened.
Starting point is 03:08:56 end of the day, you hear stuff from the Trump administration right now. There's two things that are happening. We're seeing executive orders where people are making, you know, statements. They're going out. He's signing the document and saying this is what's going to happen next. But then you've also got this other piece where you go, yeah, but is it really going on? We were told we were going to get the Epstein Binders day one. We were going to all see all the information and it didn't come out. So we're kind of in this like now. We need verification.
Starting point is 03:09:19 I just listen to what people say and then I go and see if folks can actually validate that. I've got friends that are working at headquarters. I got a couple of them at this point. They're our friends of mine. It turns out when you become an FBI whistle, less and less people talk to you. They just don't want to get involved. But a few of them that are not scared,
Starting point is 03:09:34 that are courageous and say they'd be happy to like both lose their job and shut this agency down if it had to be done. They've gone out and proactively told me. He's like, look, we've broken servers. We've had so many people accessing them to do this work. We've been working through the weekend. You just showed me this. Yeah, no, I'm literally showing you the people that we're talking about here.
Starting point is 03:09:50 They've reached out to me and said, yeah, we have all hands on deck. I meant to go do something because he was going to go meet one of my friends. wasn't able to do so. And he's like, look, dude, I got stuff going on. I can't because we have all hands on deck meetings talking about Epstein files. We are doing the redactions. We are doing the things that were said. And then completely independent of that, I got another buddy who's much further to the west of Washington, D.C.,
Starting point is 03:10:11 and I'll just leave it nebously at that, who reached out and said, I was looking for a printer. I was on my network. And they must be so actively trying to steal box this up. Because when you start having too many people touch the exact same files on government computers, We had a joke, Alex. When you were working on FBI computer systems, we would always say that the motto of FBIAT is yesterday's technology tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:10:31 They're just crap. They're just the worst computers you could ever have. And so apparently they crashed them all. And my guess is they started moving to more and more stable servers and accidentally opened up the permissions to people, including another buddy, who had nothing to do with it. And he was like, oh, yeah, I just saw there were like 14 terabytes of Epstein fire. And you were showing me, they're saying more victims than Bondi even said.
Starting point is 03:10:50 I mean, this is like just massive. Yeah, I think the information will continue to roll out as they can. But at the end of the day... When you say terabytes, they're saying it's massive. Yeah, like 14 terabytes is... So it's not a couple hundred pages like they gave Bondi. Correct. No, that was always going to be nonsense.
Starting point is 03:11:08 Look, here's, let me get... Well, that's what Bonnie said. She said there's recordings. We know that. We saw them walk out with boxes. I mean, I saw the same drone footage that everyone else did. You don't see the FBI. This is videos.
Starting point is 03:11:18 This is audio. This is bad. One would think. But listen, are they going to do redactions with all those things. Maybe, most likely you won't see videos. Most likely you can't publish child porn. Nope, you can't. So you're going to be kind of in this spot where it's the same thing as with national security stuff. When they do a national security investigation and they have evidence, they can't reveal it. And you can't reveal things that are child pornography. You could try to
Starting point is 03:11:38 say it. By the way, I always use that word. It's like a lessening of it. Child abuse, child torture videos. Call it porn like it's porn. No, it's raping children. Yeah. No, indeed. In fact, they actually have all kinds of different acronyms for it and they're all much more nasty when you actually spell them out. Child sexual abuse, materials, things like this. I think it's C-S-A-M is the acronym they're using right now.
Starting point is 03:12:00 They used to call the entire unit that did the investigations violent crimes against children, which is a really good way for describing what we're talking about. How do FBI agents deal with looking at this? I couldn't... My roommate at the Academy,
Starting point is 03:12:11 when I was working at Quantico, going through there was the most even-keeled guy you've ever met in your life. Good Catholic father, very, very mellow, didn't react to much. Worked there for eight years
Starting point is 03:12:22 doing that as an analyst. I asked them the same question. Apparently, they get regular mental health checks, just like doing anything else that's really ugly, that you have to be a part of it because it's a necessary evil. You're seeing the nastiest thing in America. And so they would take them in, they would do regular screenings. They have an opportunity to opt out.
Starting point is 03:12:37 It's voluntary only. Alex, the only people that are going there are doing it by volunteer bases. They agree to be part of this because they know they're getting in to go after real evil. And what's funny is there's not very many people who want to volunteer to be part of that. There's not very many people that signed up that said, I want to go protect kids. And the people that I know that are really passionate about it and they can't get that job,
Starting point is 03:12:55 they end up leaving the FBI and going and do it in a private party sphere. I have a couple friends that did that as well. I was about to say, because I've, you know, in investigations and things and a lot of stuff's going on. And just even, and Hunter Biden's laptop, once we started seeing stuff, I told the crew, I said, it's up to you if you want to look. I'm not looking at this.
Starting point is 03:13:15 And then we had crew that was been sent horrible stuff that you had to quit because they saw this stuff. I mean, it is just, I mean, I don't know how people can look at the stuff that I've seen in some of the FBI files that have come out in cases of snuff films and stuff. The same is investigating like a war crime. You're investigating something that's like the truly worst part of human nature. So you've got to be able to flip it off. I remember 20 years ago, just one UN-NATO Dyncore thing where they were selling the snuff films in L.A. on VHS, even though it was decades later. That's how they do it.
Starting point is 03:13:44 And it was describing like a whole bunch of men raping two toddler boys. and when they're done, they blow their heads off. And I mean, and he just goes from there. And it's in the file, just reading a report, I couldn't imagine watching that. No, and the terrible thing is if someone has to watch it, then they have to document it. They have to do timestamps. They have to do screen grabs. They're typing this stuff up.
Starting point is 03:14:04 Like, it's a truly awful thing, and people should pray for the folks that I can. Yeah, because I've seen, like, people in a car wreck, heads cut off, and you pulled right over the person's blood spraying out. I have a whole thing called Faces of Death. You remember faces? Oh, but I remember I went over like 10, and my older buddy's brother, was watching and I still hated that movie. Yeah, they're awful. I mean, real executions and stuff,
Starting point is 03:14:22 and I still, exactly what I'm just thinking, I've seen a few people die, I've seen some bad car wrecks, smash kids, and I still occasionally have a nightmare about it. I couldn't just, I'm tough, but I mean, you know, kids getting hurt, but I couldn't imagine when I read just in reports, I mean, watching them
Starting point is 03:14:38 tortured little babies to death and blow their heads off. What's crazy is that although that's pretty small part of what the FBI does, and it could be, you could basically spend 100% of the FBI's resources on that all day long. I've had numerous people tell me that you could do unlimited amounts of work on that violation alone
Starting point is 03:14:54 and you never know. Hold on, Atlantic Monthly said that's not happening. I can show you that. I know, right? The crazy thing is that local cops see this stuff every day. I used to ride an ambulance. I used to see a little bit of it. I'd see it coming to the ER on occasion and you'd get a little taste of some of the ugly, evil crap that exists in this world. And the fact of the matter is our local police officers see this almost every single day.
Starting point is 03:15:12 They see kids being abused. They see them being victimized. They see parents. You know, they see a boyfriend who doesn't have any connection to the baby and throws an 18-month-old down the stairs and then just leaves them and takes the mom to the hospital because the mom got tuned up as well and there's a baby. We've had, I've been part of transport teams where they had to go breach a door to go get an infant smaller than 18 months old who had been left alone after being thrown down the stairs. And I basically rode in an ambulance with a baby in my arms that was all beat to hell. And you just want to see the worst thing happened to the people that did it. So being able to do that for years, it takes a special kind of person. We do have special kinds of people.
Starting point is 03:15:48 When you see these kind of notices about the good men and women of the FBI, there's a small number of people that volunteer to do that and a smaller and smaller number from what I'm told. I keep getting told. It just is not a priority they want to have. So I have friends that work that in violation is what we call it. And they told me they get less and less volunteers every single year. But it's incredibly important. And as you said, when you tonight.
Starting point is 03:16:08 A monthly article just says it's a right-wing fable. There's no kids getting trafficked. What's crazy is that there actually are right-wing fables, or left-wing fables right at it, which is that white supremacy is the biggest danger. I used to watch guys who were considered to be white supremacists. I would have been the kind of guy who would have been tasked to do surveillance on, let's say, in Info Wars as a topic. And the craziest piece that I used to see was that it was basically 20-something-year-old guys
Starting point is 03:16:29 who were probably in college, or maybe they were working a job, and they were wearing boat shoes, and they'd have khaki pants on and a polo shirt, and they were on Reddit, and they were being racist or something. They were making, like, racist memes. It's just not the threat that people act like it is. Oh, yeah, those guys aren't going to blow up a synagogue. No, they're not. And you know, we would go out and we did undercover operations where we were the surveillance team watching these guys.
Starting point is 03:16:48 And you'd go out there and you'd say, hey, man, we saw what you said online. So you've got some undercover that says, we really want to help you do this bad idea that you came up with, that terror factor. They want to go out there and they want to get you involved in the plot. And the guy would be like, no, man, I think I'm going to go home and get a job. I think I'm going to go and hold hands with some girl. I think I'm going to quit and I'm not going to actually do the thing I said because it was just online. And it wasn't real. A lot of this stuff is fabricated and it's fake.
Starting point is 03:17:09 And so the FBI gets incentivized to actually investigate it. And this is maybe the biggest thing that Cash Patel can do right away. They need to get rid of something called IPM. It's called Integrated Program Management. It is a thing that incentivizes FBI senior managers to the tune of like $30,000, $60,000 a year in bonuses to fill out and accomplish certain types of cases. And they only want to do certain types of cases. So they go out and they basically bid on what their job is going to be the year before they do it. And how many crimes in that sort of category they think.
Starting point is 03:17:39 they're going to be. So it's bounty to jack up fake crime numbers. It's like literally like watching traffic cops get out there and get assigned a quota. And they do it in every type of case. They got to go manufacture it. They got to have enough. And if the priorities of the administration, like the Biden administration, where you got to have this number of white, you know, nationalist cases and you've got to have this many
Starting point is 03:17:58 white supremacist cases, they'll go out there and try to find them because there's money on the line behind it. And by the way, if your boss is getting money, then you're getting the gold star and the check mark on your review. And you're the guy who's going to get the next promotion when it comes up or you're going to get the specialty duty. So all of these things end up being the lowest level of corruption ever, which is that people just want to see their own ends accomplished. They want to see a little better life for themselves. And they're not just like purely out there operating
Starting point is 03:18:20 where's the crime and how do we find it and how do we stop it. They're out there and then going out there and making sure their predictions are correct because they're incentivized to do so. I'm trying to find the article. I see these every day. Another black lady just got indicted for faking a noose around her neck that white supremac did. And I look into these so-called white supremacist crimes literally in almost every case it's a Jesse Smollett. Yeah, it seems like 90 plus percent are race hoax. Because why? There must be a market for that, though. That's what we learn. Well, like, people do the thing that incentivized, like they're incentivized to do.
Starting point is 03:18:48 There has to be a market. There has to be an outrage mob from the left that's going to come out and support her and it's going to go back her up. And so, yeah, they go do this kind of thing. And, you know, and they generally speaking don't get destroyed as much. I think Jesse Smollett still probably is not worth nothing. I don't think he's been completely sued into oblivion. He didn't get, he didn't have to pay for all the investigative of hours they wasted from the Chicago PD going after that news, right? And I just saw, I mean, obviously the cops knew it was fake immediately, a little, little string around his neck. Oh, they poured bleach on me and said Maga country at 2.30, at 23 below in
Starting point is 03:19:19 Chicago, not even a, not even a sandwich shop near. They're just totally made up crap. And it just goes on and on. Remember, this is the same FBI that said, like, a dozen agents to go out and find out what was going on. And what was the guy, Bubba something? Bubba Wallace's, uh, you know, his garage tie, the one that pulled up and down the garage door. They sent out a bunch of FBI. Just go look at a piece of rope that was meant to pull up and down. And it showed like all of them.
Starting point is 03:19:43 Most people had that in their house, but it's not powered. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was a standard. It was a standard not. It's wild. But that just shows you where the priorities are. If you need to generate a certain type of case, then you're going to go out and try to find that case. And that is not.
Starting point is 03:19:57 So this is what a guy like Cash Patel, this is what a Dan Bonchino is up against. There's a really interesting moment that we're at play. So we talked about Bondi, say, certain things. We know that some of the stuff she's saying checks out, at least according to the people that I'm talking to. The danger is, is you have an FBI that is rooted against, and it's not monolithic, by the way. There's 56, 55 different field offices. I think they reduced one since I left. There's 55 field offices, and they all have their own culture. We found that out during COVID. Some people were extremely right-leaning. Some were very left-leaning. Some were very constitutional.
Starting point is 03:20:27 Some said, let's let the court sort it out. And we don't have to go after you for COVID stuff. And some of them said, no, no, no. We are going to stop on you and find out who is not compliant. And so it just depended who was in the office. But you're dealing with 55 different cultures, plus you're dealing with a headquarters unit, and you're dealing with the institutional inertia. They have to both stop something that has been going on since basically September 12th of 2001. Yeah, so I want to talk about you just abolish it and remake something new. Obviously, out of some federal police system.
Starting point is 03:20:52 But expanding on that, I want you to get into Cross for Hurricane. If you had more you wanted to add there, I want to get to every other topic you want to cover. This is such an important window into all of this, because every culture in history gets taken over by its Pretorian Guard when it collapses. And the FBI, you can call the Pretorian Guard, him out of all these systems. And it's obviously been political since day one. Jay or Hoover, the blackmail, all of it.
Starting point is 03:21:12 But it's gotten worse and worse and worse. Ted Gunnerson was high-level FBI. He was dying of cancer. He phoned in, interviewed it many times. And he just said, I want to apologize to Martin Luther King. I ran the co-and-tel pro and harassed his wife and his family and did all that. I thought he was a communist. And, you know, he kind of was a little bit of one, but it was still wrong.
Starting point is 03:21:28 And I apologize. He was like dead a week later. He was very well spoken before he died of bladder cancer that spread around his body. So, I mean, he knew what he was talking about, but he would also expose a bunch of the child trafficking and the CIA and all that. And back then, it's like, oh, that's crazy. Then so many of the documents were recently released four years ago,
Starting point is 03:21:43 the finder's case. And, I mean, the CIA had a whole base in D.C. doing all this. I mean, this, people, people understand. How about we just found out that people have been speculating this for a while, but that Lyme disease was actually developed by the DOD to be able to go drop into Cuba. Yeah, and now you've got Linesis.
Starting point is 03:21:59 And now it's a season. It's a problem every season. It's weaponized. tick-borne syphilis. Right. And it's declassified. They made it at Plum Island with Nazi scientists right off the coast of New York. And then deer swam the mile across.
Starting point is 03:22:12 I mean, we're living in the meme where it's like, you know, conspiracy theories versus people who, you know, read the mainstream. And it's like 90 to one right now. It just continues to chalk up. There's another one. My grandmother was told by her doctor in Austin, when, like, 1956, whatever it was, that the polio shot with the live virus gave her polio. And then they admit most of it was caused by that. So that's my grandmother. She lived in a night too, but was in a wheelchair most of the time.
Starting point is 03:22:36 It just goes on. My dad was on a mountain climbing trip in the east. He's been in great shape. Got Lyme's disease, didn't know he had it for a year, eight all his joints, really bad shape today because of it. I mean, I can go through just the carnage in my life just from these shots and just from diseases the government made. There was a Tucker Carlson interview the other day. It was an epidemiologist, public health guy, and he's talking about it.
Starting point is 03:23:00 He says, look, they basically, eliminated measles through hygiene, through better nutrition, through all the things you can do to take care yourself before the measles shot popped up in 1963. And so it was basically down to almost nothing in the United States in the first world. We oftentimes look at this causation correlation problem and we go, oh, well, that's when it happened and this is what was going on. Well, what else was happening in the world? And when you work in a broad space, you know, if you go do, I went through paramedic school when I was in the military and I didn't actually study ever. All I did was watch House MD because they always went and they had to decide, was this
Starting point is 03:23:31 something that was happening because of something they contracted, or was it something environmental? And you see how much has been changed in the environment of the United States, whether it comes to public health, comes to nutrition. Now we're going the opposite way with that. But it comes to the way that we actually take care of our bodies, the fact that we have soaps and we have running water and we have toilets. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:23:49 I mean, I've had a bunch of scientists on, it's the same in Australia, Europe, everywhere, because the only countries that were behind each other in Europe. And this is a rough graph. I'm just but everybody can pull these up. So you've got sanitation. let's just say 1900, you know, really starts coming across the Western world. And infectious diseases and all this chronic stuff goes all the way down until the 1940s. And then right when shots start kicking up at the 50s, it actually goes back up.
Starting point is 03:24:14 And then now it's going like that with all the chemicals, the food, everything. But it's like that. And it's sanitation. And right when the vaccines start, that's when it starts going back up. Anybody can pull up those graphs. I mean, that's but you can pull that up. Just type in graphs. Sanitation causing drop.
Starting point is 03:24:30 in infectious disease versus vaccine graft, you'll pull it up. It's just basic environmental stuff. I mean, this is some of the difficulty. And so you sit there and you listen. We're going to talk about a crossfire hurricane. We're kind of. Well, let's do that in a minute. I want to put book ins on this because we're going to take the first of this segment
Starting point is 03:24:44 and take it and edit it together. Sure. Just other points about now seeing, you've shown me from your sources, that there is a huge, massive FPI operation, exactly what Pambonby says, digging through this huge amount, terabyte after terabyte crashing servers. That is just sensational that that was being suppressed, and they tried to pass off some old documents with a few new ones to Pam Bondi three weeks ago.
Starting point is 03:25:09 This is incredible news. So they're telling us the truth. They have it's what the U.S. attorney said yesterday out of New Jersey. He said, listen, it's massive. Hundreds of new victims. We're on it. It's going to take time. So stop it.
Starting point is 03:25:22 We have to do a new process or these bad guys will get away. We've got to find out who's innocent, who's not. We have sources. we have whistleblowers, we have witnesses. That's a process, but accelerated. Can you speak to that? How long it will take if it's accelerated? Well, I think we look at the single biggest case the FBI ever worked,
Starting point is 03:25:40 the most important thing they ever did. And I'm saying that in a sarcastic tone because it was January 6th, right? They took agents from every single field office and mobilized them to go after regular Americans for trespassing charges, which, by the way, was not what I signed up to go do, and also not the case for a lot of people that worked in the Bureau. What they did there is they sent out what are called leads. They sent them out to the field offices or handed down to supervisors and eventually to guys like me who are brick agents, what we call front line agents, GS-13s, that are going to go out and do the investigation. And they said, here's the allegation or information that this person was involved in a federal crime.
Starting point is 03:26:09 Here's the predicating opening if you would like to open the case. And then they have an option. They can open the case and they can pursue it aggressively. They can go out and get sources into it. They can go out and collect evidence. They can do surveillance. They can go and write paperwork so they can get processed where they're going to get financial records and bank records and phone records and all. all the kind of thing. But now Bondi is feeding it to the agents.
Starting point is 03:26:29 It's what it should be done. She's handing the ball to you. It sounds like what they're doing right now from the stuff that I can hear is that they're actually trying to clean the records they already have, because it sounds like they've probably have been doing this for a while. We have to believe that they were collecting on this. Look, why have we never heard who the Johns were, who the people were that were involved, right? That's the people that would actually be the additional spin-off cases. You can't prosecute Jeffrey Epstein. He's gone. So if that's the case, if you can't go after that guy, you've got to go after the people that he was associated with.
Starting point is 03:26:54 And in the same way they did the J-6 case, which is they said, okay, here's this inciting event. We're going to send leads that says this person was involved in it. You can use Jeffriensky as the inciting event or the sort of like the beginning of the hub. And then all of the people that were connected to him that may have been involved in criminality, whether it be in the conspiracy end, whether it be in the actual smuggling of people, whether it be the actual abuse of children, whether it be the taping of it, creation of child pornography is a crime as well, broadcasting it, etc.
Starting point is 03:27:20 All of these things can be pursued. But you have to identify who's the person and then do individual investigations into each of them. Or they can hold them all in one big file, which is another option, and create sub files for each of these people. And they can send agents from all over the country that say, hey, look, Alex, you're not on this case. You're just going to run a lead for me. I need to go interview this person. What is the best way to do it? It depends on the case.
Starting point is 03:27:41 So they're probably doing, but clearly they're doing it. She says they found a bunch of Johns, but they got to process who's guilty, who's not. And so it appears from this information that you actually showed me the information on your phone. This is real. It's very aggressive, like she says. I think there's no reason not that to think that. I mean, look, it's one guy sitting in headquarters and one guy sitting outside in the field. That's two sources.
Starting point is 03:28:01 Is that enough for me to say, yes, there's a massive operation? Probably not. But I would say it leans that way. It makes me believe that the things that we're seeing. Well, I mean, it means they got files like she said. They have things to work with. And they're going over it. Absolutely.
Starting point is 03:28:12 How many terabytes? I don't know, 14, 15, something like that. I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot of files. And the goofiest thing was that they said that we only have a couple hundred pages of documents. I've had cases that are open and shut that'll have a couple hundred pages. do get a couple hundred pages from a corner one time. It'll be, you know, it'll just be all the blood test.
Starting point is 03:28:29 Let me give the crew the headline. They already put some of this out. Take this segment, put it together. I'm so busy, I do production on air. People ask what goes on around here. This is it. There's no pre-meeting or anything. It's all like, during the break, I'll be writing headlines.
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Starting point is 03:32:58 Leading a frontal assault on the lies of the New World Order, it's Alex Jones. You found it, the tip of the spear. It is the Alex Jones Show. There must be some kind of way out of here. Say they'll jump her to the thief. It's too much confusion. Get no relief. I just want to recap one more time, folks, that Kyle Seraffin is a very respected FBI whistleblower, amongst many things he exposed that they were going after Catholics and conservatives in Virginia
Starting point is 03:34:14 that were peacefully protesting, literal transgender raping kids, that were covering it up in the school bathrooms. And we know that the Democrats and Biden were behind the scenes trying to cover it up and intimidate Americans. That's just one of the things he did. And then he got targeted, he got investigated in the process. He did it right the first time, giving it to Congress, all of that. And he's a hero. And it's going to be men and women like that that are going to save this country.
Starting point is 03:34:38 And we've got 30 minutes left, 25 minutes of airtime. You're going to be on with Owen. I know he's going to want to focus on the swatting. And I see that's near and dear to him getting lasers pointed his head. I'm sure that's great. Just please recap and cover other stuff on that, too. People need to hear this everywhere. This is so huge.
Starting point is 03:34:53 Just finishing up on the Epstein thing. What an incredible piece of information. He showed me. FBI headquarters, huge task force on it, files, 14 terabytes. That's just what they saw. Crashing servers, people being told this is your main focus, exactly what Pam Bondi said yesterday in the news. And then in a whole other office across the country,
Starting point is 03:35:16 one of his other friends and former colleagues in the FBI saying, oh, man, it's everywhere. They're just boom, boom, it's right here. I mean, it's just, they're like boom, boom, boom. pushing it into the field offices to investigate. And that's what you're due when you're going after them. So the cover up is over, ladies and gentlemen. And we know about the hard drives going back to VHS 30 years ago.
Starting point is 03:35:39 They said houses full of it is how it was described in FBI documents from Zoro Ranch alone. There's a whole complex medical facility. Okay. And we got little St. John's Island, the Caribbean. We got his torture palace or whatever it was. They literally had like dental chairs. Now it's torture chair, folks. My dad's a dentist.
Starting point is 03:35:55 That's not a dental chair. Bill Clinton addressed paintings. I mean, George Bush flying, paper airplanes, World Trade Center. This is sick. Okay. And these are sick people. Massad, MI6, CIA. And then you got the owner of the Atlantic Monthly,
Starting point is 03:36:11 Steve Jobs' wife, funding all the transgender targeting your kids. And then she's in there with all these articles, oh, there's no abuse of kids, go to sleep, nothing's happening. And now they've run this new sci-op, you know, with the intelligence info. So amazing. but now crossfire hurricane what you think should be done at the FBI Trump where all this is going something else you said that was really smart
Starting point is 03:36:32 we'll play this clip here it's very short President Trump has just signed a pardon for Devon Archer the former business partner of Hunter Biden Archer blew the whistle on the entire Biden crime family and was persecuted for doing so congrats Devon so smart to protect the whistleblowers you can have mafia that's killed people they bring down the whole organization
Starting point is 03:36:54 you give them a facelift and witness protection. Okay? Absolutely. And they're like, Trump's protecting people. That's how you bring them down. So I'll play this clip. Get your take on that. Here it is.
Starting point is 03:37:07 First, we have a pardon for Devin Archer. Devin Archer was a former business partner of the Biden family. He was prosecuted relating to a fraud investigation. But notably, the tone and tenor of that prosecution changed dramatically after he began. to cooperate with congressional investigators and serve as a witness against Hunter Biden and the Biden family. We believe that was an injustice, and therefore we're asking you to pardon him. And many people have asked me to do this. I think he was treated very unfairly, and I looked at the record, studied the records that he was.
Starting point is 03:37:44 He was a victim of a crime, as far as I'm concerned. So we're going to undo that. All right. That's Devin Archer. Congratulations, Devin. Another big move by Trump, pardoning Devin Archer, the main whistleblower who then prosecuted went after for exposing the Biden crime family. A very smart move to protect the whistleblower.
Starting point is 03:38:23 So it's going to be a lot more. Kyle Seraph and former U.S.O.S. Blower, your take on what just happened. Yeah, so, I mean, this is what happens when you try to put together a criminal organization or put together a criminal prosecution. You've got to give some people anesty. You've got to give them lesser charges for things. You remember he was working with Tony Bob Balinski. That was the whole story.
Starting point is 03:38:40 They came forward. They asked him to come and testify. And, you know, as I recall, I think he pled guilty to some things. The story kind of runs together in my head. But, yeah, why wouldn't you? Like, at this point, we're seeing a bunch of people that are being made whole. I've seen guys at the IRS as well. You saw the whistleblowers there.
Starting point is 03:38:56 They were just put into positions by the Secretary of Treasury. He says, hey, you guys came forward and did the right thing. You're getting harassed. You know what I'd like to see, too, though? I'd like to see some FBI whistleblowers like my buddy Garred O'Boy put back into his job. He's been unpaid for 30 months. So seeing criminals get pardoned, I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 03:39:12 Seeing J-Sixers pardon, 100%. I was actually on the fence for a little while because some people were actually violent. But at the end of the day, what the Justice Department did actually was a, it needed to be rebuked. They needed to say all that work you did and all that stupidity you spent on J-6, that needs to go away. So you do that. You got to make people whole. You got to go out there and you've got to incentivize. Jim Jordan's been holding hearings on this stuff.
Starting point is 03:39:31 But what I'd like to see is people made whole and been treated properly. And what you're saying is, like Trump's promoting Pentagon whistleblowers, military whistleblowers, IRS whistleblowers. Don't just support them, promote them, because that's the new culture. That's really the way to fix it. You have to put people that have actually experienced it. If you had told me some of the things that went on and the, like the fact that the FBI actually investigated me, I had people call me that were working inside the Hoover building. And they said, I just got out of a meeting, 45 minutes, people from DOJ inside the Hoover building were sitting down.
Starting point is 03:40:03 you're not going to be able to walk without looking over your shoulder for the next three years. I went like, are you kidding me? And then I found out that they subpoenaed my Twitter following. They subpoenaed all my records from social media. We found out about that. And actually, Elon Musk of all people, is actually defending that. They did it after the fact they're still appealing this case, trying to try to make case law. They've talked about maybe filing on my behalf.
Starting point is 03:40:23 And so when you find out that the agency that you worked for, I didn't break any laws. I went forward in good faith. There's actually a federal law that says 5 U.S.C. 7211. You can petition your member of Congress. It is how you do whistleblowing if you want to do it. It is defined and they're trained on it every single year as a federal employee. I brought that forward and then they investigated me. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:40:41 That's absolutely crazy. So I wouldn't have believed some of this stuff beforehand. The fact that if you've never experienced it, then you don't know and people haven't experienced what you've experienced. So they can't say, okay, this is 100% true. It's real. It's crazy. It comes at you from every direction. And you got to go and make these guys whole if you ever want someone to step forward again.
Starting point is 03:40:57 Because I assure you, there are people that know that are bad things that happen in our government. And they're watching. what happens to Garrido Boyle? What happens to Steve Friend? What happens to Kyle Serafin? Are we going to make them whole? Are we going to do the right thing? I don't want to go back and work for the FBI again. They stab me in the back once. I'm good. But I'd like to be at least made whole. I'd like them to say, you know, advisory role to Trump in the Justice Department. I guarantee you, I'll bring it up when I talk to Trump. So many things bring up, but you know, you tell, hey, Trump, did you know the Biden's, including Hunter, get 18 secret services in South Africa?
Starting point is 03:41:29 Trump goes, I'm going to check that. One hour later revokes it. That's why they're scared. You get in the stuff. I guarantee you he'll take action. That's why we're saying it here. But you said something in the last segment. I know how the Internet works is they don't understand FBI nomenclature. You said, oh, they're pushing on all the field offices for the investigation.
Starting point is 03:41:47 There's two ways to do it. But they've got to clean up the file. When you say that doesn't mean cover it up. I know what you mean to elaborate. You mean the defense of these criminals is going to get whatever the FBI agents basically have, they're given. So you've got to be. He's very safe about sources, witnesses, victims. That stuff's got to be held back as another file
Starting point is 03:42:07 so that you don't give the bad guys a blueprint to know what you know. Is that correct? Partially, yes. You noticed Pam Bondi said things about national security. That means that there were probably some people that were running afoul of different national security cases. I got a problem with a lot of them, and I think a lot of them are pretty dangerous the way they do it because they don't need criminal predication. But when we talk about national security sources and methods, FISA, tactical sources,
Starting point is 03:42:26 they can use to compromise devices or things like that, if they have these things in there, that indicate what we're dealing with, yeah, you're going to have to go and clean those things up. If they're doing an actual security dragnet and they find out some stuff about Epstein and good agents put it in the file, that's coming. I mean, here's an example. You can't share that. You can't share it because of the way that you got the information, because not every criminal attorney is going to be read in on that type of information. You have to have a clearance. There are like literally, there are defense attorneys that also have a security clearance so they can observe classified evidence against their clients.
Starting point is 03:42:59 Now, usually what has to happen is they have to actually declassify it to be able to go forward if they actually want to continue the prosecution. But they negotiate. They still have to be able to see what's going on there. So, yeah, that's part of the thing to clean up. But the other piece is if they're going to release anything publicly, it's got to be very much cleaned up so the public doesn't get the names of victims who could be harassed. It doesn't go to people who shouldn't have it. So there are certain federal laws that protect federal. By the way, I mean, I don't have a lot of civil cases and stuff.
Starting point is 03:43:23 Even really good lawyers mess up. They put one innocent, one victim's name in. it will all turn into those agents and Trump are bad. So it's a damn landmine. And it's a violation of federal law. So it's almost like a do-no-harm. They got to make sure that they do this stuff right. Now, like I said, at the end of the day, does it matter
Starting point is 03:43:39 whether or not the American public gets every access to all the files? I don't think it does. I think what they want to see is movement forward. And I think if the Trump administration were to come forward with messaging, and you heard Pam Bondi say, look, we're actually not going to give you the entire file. Because we can't do that until after it goes to court. Some things are not going to be revealed until after we've actually
Starting point is 03:43:55 handed it over. People have a right to their own proper defense. We don't want to poison the public. We don't want to have a judge come and slap down what we're trying to use. All of that stuff is the record. It's beyond medical records. So people that don't understand this need to grow up. Okay, you've got real action here. 14 terabytes
Starting point is 03:44:11 they grabbed out of New York. This is amazing. I mean, this is great news because it's exactly what Pam Bondi says they're doing and this guy has incredible integrity and has amazing sources and it's going down. Wow, so much you got the floor. What else you want to cover? Let's talk about
Starting point is 03:44:27 about Crossfire Hurricane and one of the things that is the, recap what that is. It Crossfire Hurricanes, the national security investigation of Donald Trump's campaign and eventually bled into his actual term as president. It led to a bunch of different people inside the FBI being removed. There's some settlements afterwards and they were made whole. Even guys who did the wrong thing who lied to their own agency. So an attempted FBI, deep state, Democrat coup against Trump. I will co-sign on that.
Starting point is 03:44:49 Yeah, that's correct. The crazy thing is this. That was all possible. At least it was more possible because of what happened in October of 2016 and the last year of the Obama administration. Biden was obviously the VP at that time. They updated a executive order that was 12333. And if anybody keeps track of national security stuff, you guys know that 12333 is the authorizing executive order that gives the NSA the ability to do domestic collection, which means they can go out there and grab information from the telephone records, they can
Starting point is 03:45:19 grab content from your text messages, and so on and so forth. If it touches American wires, our intelligence service, have at least the ability, and sometimes they actually have the purview to go out and grab it. I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong. I'm just telling you that it does. Obama changed the game there. And what he did is something that had never been done before. And I actually think it was probably a hedge because they thought Hillary was going to win. And they were giving Hillary even more powerful apparatus within sort of the intelligence apparatus of the FBI, the CIA, the NSA and so on, the sort of big conglomerate of intel agencies. What I think was going on there, they updated and allowed the FBI for the first time to have access to what's called Raw FISA. Alex Roth FISA?
Starting point is 03:45:56 That's like looking in your email box. That's like me opening up your email and reading your spam and finding out who's sending it to you. It's like me opening up your text messages and seeing who's involved in that if you don't have encrypted text. It's me seeing who's in your missed calls and who's in your phone calls. There's an entire software program that's called DWS
Starting point is 03:46:11 or the data warehouse system. And prior to October of 2016, and you guys can even find it, Wired Magazine reported on at the time. Wired Magazine is pretty good and hard to the left, but they also tend to care about civil liberties when it comes to things that are in the tech sphere. And they were alerted by this. They said, this is real problematic.
Starting point is 03:46:28 And then, of course, Donald Trump won. It didn't mean that suddenly Donald Trump had access to these tools. What it meant is that the FBI, the NSA and so on, they now had this open-door sharing where when I went to go work for the Bureau in November of 2016, my first day on the job in December of 2016, I got assigned cases, got access to DWS, this data warehouse system. And I could literally search names of Americans, and they weren't masked. They weren't what we call minimized.
Starting point is 03:46:54 They were unredacted, me going through a warehouse of NSA collections, and I didn't need a warrant. And all of that is what we talk about with FISA 702. That's the craziest thing. Well, here's an example. Judge Arpaio on my show, gosh, right when Trump got in office like eight plus years ago, he was given, because he's former DEA in Mexico, pretty famous, the head guy down there and all that craziness. And we're talking about old school. But the point was, is that he was given by the DEA. a bunch of NSA files of numbers.
Starting point is 03:47:27 And he said, by the way, you and Trump, this was going back years before Trump even ran, through him getting elected, it was my numbers. And I had an old landline I'd used for radio interviews that I'd since gotten rid of. And I'd had that thing for like 20 years. And it had my landline.
Starting point is 03:47:44 It had my parents' numbers. I never didn't live with them. And it had my cell phone and my old cell phone in an NSA deal. And that's how they had Trump. in there, his Marlago number. I showed it to Roger who had his Marlago sweet, you know, Trump used to have the whole thing, but now he just has an apartment
Starting point is 03:47:59 there. Trump's apartment number at Marlago. So, and I was like, yeah, Roger's like, yeah, that's the number. I mean, again, this was way back before the 2013 thing. Sure. And the DEA had access to that. They're like, hey, dude, you're under NSA. Well, and this is the legacy of the Patriot. This is the legacy of
Starting point is 03:48:16 September 12, 2001, when we heard people, basically, we learned the exact wrong lessons. And I know you've been talking about this. They're just grabbing everything I ever say just so in case they find something. The question is, is who can access that information? If it's the NSA, the NSA doesn't have badges and guns. I'm not crazy about
Starting point is 03:48:33 them having access to it. I don't like the intelligence sphere. I don't like our government knowing things they don't need to know when you have a First Amendment liberty to say it and not be But now they're handing it off to the FBI that's become a secret police. This is exactly correct. Look, even Seb Gorka and I were talking about this at one point in time. He goes, you're talking about taking the people with the badges and the guns. They have the legal
Starting point is 03:48:48 authority to go out, knock down your door and put you in handcuffs and drag you off. Okay? legal arrest authority, and then you add the intelligence capabilities that have been associated with every single secret police that's ever existed. In America, we didn't have that ability to get raw intel like that without asking anybody's permission. The FBI has both access and they have the ability to just do it on their own. They used to have to petition the NSA to be able to say, hey, we'd like a person number one, we'd like U.S. person number two. Can you please unredact those? How many agencies if the DEA has it?
Starting point is 03:49:18 They do. And this is all because they've expanded the definitions of what, what they consider to be terrorists. They've expanded what FISA 702 can be used for, drug cartels. There's a real danger here. And this is kind of a fun little mind game because they actually said, now the cartels are going to be considered foreign terrorist organizations, right? And that they already have access to 702 by using that tool they can actually go after the cartels. But does it mean that somebody who is funding through buying drugs on the street?
Starting point is 03:49:45 If you are buying and it is sourced back to a cartel, are you now in materials support? But then what's that rule, too, that it's so many people out. So it's basically everybody anyways. Two hops. So that was the question. There's all kinds of articles out there talking about two hops. So what happens is, let's say, FISA 702 is meant to do foreign adversaries in foreign places.
Starting point is 03:50:01 Drug cartel guy in Mexico. The minute he comes to the United States, we're no longer able to collect on him using 702. You'd need a proper FISA. Same thing. Russian spy in Russia. You can collect on him with 702. He lands at Dulles. We now have to turn that off.
Starting point is 03:50:13 But then you can also two hop the contacts of that Russian. Let's say the Russian is talking to, let's say, a foreign journalist or somebody who's in the embassy in Washington, D. you can hop to them. And that person, let's say, reaches out to you in Twitter DMs or wants to go out there and send you an email. Now we can hop to you because you are now in contact with that person. So we have a very broad... A giant fishing expedition.
Starting point is 03:50:32 This is that circles upon circles that spin off more and more investigations. So you had to guess, this is speculation. The Boston Field Office, 12, 13 years secret investigation, obviously not the only one we know of others. Sure. And the NSA step predating that. Was this a drag net? Or what were they, what was the excuse?
Starting point is 03:50:49 What were they looking for? This is the first whistleblower activity that I ever did. It goes back to 2017. I went to my boss and I say, I see what we're doing, but I don't know why. Why do we have people investigating folks when there's no allegation or information that there's any criminality that they're involved in? And so my boss, who is the assistant special agent in charge of counterintelligence in Washington, D.C., he looked at me and he goes, we just know more stuff about them. And I went, well, what does that mean? And he goes, well, then we have more information.
Starting point is 03:51:15 And I go, no, that's what happens when you get information. You get more information. What are we doing with this stuff? That's the question. I don't understand what we do here. And he said, we just know more things. And the scariest thing is, and I heard you say it accurately the other day, if you get enough information at some point in time, you might uncover criminality. You might be looking for counterterrorism resources.
Starting point is 03:51:34 You might be trying to find out whether or not some guy is a jihadi, and you end up finding out that he's involved in child pornography 20 years later. You might be looking at Alex Jones because you think he's a white supremacist, whatever the hell that means, and you say these things. But then you eventually find out that maybe there's some tax fraud involved. And so they have an ability to- Or they use that to make it up. because, I mean, here's a microcosm. Just giving the example that they can find something. The one I always use is, let's say you happen to have somebody who dropped an illegal machine gun at your house. Or maybe it was on their trust.
Starting point is 03:51:58 Maybe it's a legally owned NFA item. And they left it with you and you're not on the trust. And we find out about that because they're watching your text messages. They have a FISA on you and they can see that. Then they go and they raid Alex Jones's house. And you end up like that guy in Little Rock who gets shot in the head at 6 in the morning because someone's coming through your door because they know exactly. Well, let's expand.
Starting point is 03:52:14 I mean, here's example. There's that famous Perry Mason moment in the show trial, I was already found guilty for Sandy Hook. by the judge telling them all these lies about me. And the lawyer gets up and goes, you told me, you know, that there weren't any text messages about Sandy Hook. And there really weren't any of any note except me talking to my lawyer about it.
Starting point is 03:52:35 That was true. But I meant like when they signed the thing, yeah, I'm not even talking about it. Right. It's privilege. And the lawyer from Connecticut since the Texas lawyer that, his secretary sends the whole thing to them.
Starting point is 03:52:45 They don't even tell them about it. Then they Perry Mason, And I just go, I told you, I gave them all my phones. And that's why you have that. I didn't lie. They tried to get Guerra, who didn't do it, to indict me for perjury. And I had the perfect answer. It was true.
Starting point is 03:53:01 I said, I told you, I gave them all the phones. And they went through it and gave me, but they just gave them the raw phone. And what they had about standing here was me talking to my lawyers about it. And they had some Joe Rogan text about it. And they tried to subpoena him and harassed him. And it was, you know, Joe just saying, yeah, you got to get over this thing. I know it's bull. and then it's like, oh, look, you lied about that too.
Starting point is 03:53:21 No, it was nothing substantive about them. Because they said, Sandy Hook, and the list of things, Sandy Hook, this list of hundreds of things, it wasn't any of that. That's an obscure way of doing a parallel construction, essentially. They're trying to germ up a perjury charge, and especially if it's privileged information you're talking. I don't know of all the details, but I'll just take it up what you said right there. If you're talking to your attorney, that's supposed to go to an agent, let's say they get all your phones and they dump it and they've got all the data there. They're supposed to say, okay, well, this is protected.
Starting point is 03:53:44 So there's a thing that's called a taint team. The taint team gets tainted with information on a lot of the happen. and they're not allowed to be on the prosecution. They're not allowed to be witnesses. They're not allowed to say anything about what they saw because they're supposed to be a referee. But can you imagine how troubling this is? I mean, honestly, I've always thought this was problematic. You got people that are supposed to be honorable folks who are going to obey their oath,
Starting point is 03:54:04 that they're going to be able to lose their life in the line of duty, that they're going to lose their job if the wrong thing comes up, that they won't do it. And then those people are supposed to read files and decide, okay, this is in and this is out. And I'm never going to go and talk in the break room to my buddy saying, you know, by the way, He wasn't faxed. That's total secret police. But the thing was, I literally dug up all my old phones. The lawyers came, plugged them in, took it.
Starting point is 03:54:24 I said, okay, you guys, discovery, anything on that, give it to them. I never even talk about it. You know, here it is. It's only me talking about the suits. And then it doesn't match any of the search parameters. And then they try to make me think I'm guilty. I go, I'm not because I wasn't. Then they give the contents of the phone to the Southern Probary Law Center to publish them.
Starting point is 03:54:43 And then there's nothing even in there. But it's just total horrible. So this is, but that's what the FBI guy said, currently CIA Oblovis. He said, well, we couldn't find anything criminal. We've had an investigation. He says that. So we went and got them to do this suit to get him that way.
Starting point is 03:54:59 And it's just like all right there. Doesn't that sound like a serious conspiracy against rights? It's a serious problem. That's what happens when somebody has decided what the outcome is going to be, and then they're going to go back it up. This is the problem with being an intelligence agency. This is why you cannot have an FBI that also has the same sort of intelligence focus on it. And that's why in 47, they set up the CIA
Starting point is 03:55:17 it was supposed to operate domestically. It is probably 60-40 or maybe 70-30 when it comes to the number of people that are in senior management that have time doing intel work. That's really problematic. But imagine this. When you're doing Intel, you're not burdened by proof. And you also feel entitled to get information
Starting point is 03:55:33 that the other person doesn't know that you're getting. Like if I do surveillance on you, it's kind of a cat and mouse game. I'm watching you. You could be looking for me. We're playing kind of games. I have different cars following you. Maybe I put a plane up. Fine. You have the possibility of discovering me. Imagine if somebody writes a FISA warrant and they go out there, this is similar to like a Title 3. But in Title 3, we're actually doing criminal prosecution, which means we need to be
Starting point is 03:55:52 probable cause. Now imagine you go in front of a secret court and you just lie about it. And no one's ever going to find out about it because everything behind it is classified. It's even worse. I'm going to close and plug your podcast a little work you're doing and anything else you want to add. But I don't feel sorry for myself. It pisses me off for everybody and my future generations, my children. I mean, literally, they have tried to indict me that we know of five, six times. And then they put Owen. in prison and other pointing lasers at him because, you know, the bad guys are manipulating the system. And all I'm saying is to the crooks in the system that have been stealing trillions of dollars,
Starting point is 03:56:24 I believe in God, I know God's real, you don't believe it because you're stupid. Karma is real. You reap what you so. You guys are in a lot of trouble. For me, it's not about vengeance you need to go to prison. All of you, it's about survival. And Trump and all of us need to take the gloves off. Trump knows that.
Starting point is 03:56:38 It's about justice, but it's beyond that for me. This is about survival. And so I don't have that instinct to bow in the face of tyranny. have the instinct to fight. And thank God for Kyle Serafin and other people that have courage, because you've done so much good. How do people find your podcast? They can find it on Rumble. It's rumble.com slash Kyle Serafin.
Starting point is 03:56:55 They can find me on X. We stream there every day as well. It's at Kyle Serafin. Same thing for YouTube until they cancel me. It's at Kyle Serafin. And then Spotify is also for a free download there. We have three sponsors every single show. So you're not going to get a ton of ads.
Starting point is 03:57:07 We do about 70 minutes. Awesome. You're going to be on a couple of minutes. You're going on right now. You're working hard. We appreciate you. In closing, ladies and gentlemen, this was a big interview. We're going to cut out all the key topics.
Starting point is 03:57:17 It's all important and put it up on X. We're getting hit with a lot of fake claims and a lot of this and that and try to suppress the numbers. Get these articles, get the videos, get the reports, and flood the zone with this. Trump is going forward. The FBI leadership is going forward. They are doing a massive investigation. They do have 14 terabytes, probably more. It is happening.
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