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Episode Date: May 8, 2025

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It's Thursday, May 8th, 2025. Inful Wars, tomorrow's news today. The 100th day of the return of the West via the American Republic, 1776 worldwide. I am your host, Alex Jones, coming here from deep in the heart of Texas broadcasting worldwide. Now, I got up this morning and saw splash all over corporate media everywhere, Bill Gates' big comeback. he thinks, or his big assault. And he has singled out Elon Musk to say Elon Musk is doing everything that Bill Gates has done. So it's that classic meme of where you've got Indiana Jones with the Golden Idol and he's trying to switch it out with the sand.

And that's exactly what's happening here. I mean, it is incredible. And what's amazing is I woke up at 5 a.m. and saw this everywhere. hours later kept looking and right before the ship went live was looking no one even seems to understand what's going on even people that don't like bill gates don't understand how he operates what his foundation does and what he's doing right here i mean bill gates runs the world population controlled foundation they changed the name in 2000 of the bill and melinda gates foundation all right and it makes him money he's He's not a philanthropist. He is a master scumbag criminal. And his dad ran Planned Parenthood. He took over the main foundation that IBM had that Thomas Watson ran, the world head eugenicist, who Hitler literally hailed as his leader, had a special award made just for him. So the history is all there. I'm an expert on Bill Gates. And there's nothing more frustrating than already knowing that Bill Gates is one of the most. hated people on earth, along with Klaus Schwab and Tony Fauci.

But if the public really knew how bad he was, it would blow their minds. And then that would bring down the whole system of the globalists, which is already falling apart. So he's accused Elon Musk of killing children with U.S. aid cuts when on record, just pull it up Reuters AP, but had to admit it. Headline, the majority of polio cases worldwide caused by the vaccine. Then you read the articles, the documents, it's Bill Gates' worldwide polio program. His specialty is poisonous, mutinogenic, so-called vaccines. His specialty is getting poison medicines approved that his foundations get paid government money for. Now, there's Bill Gates, Sr.

and then they roll it out and poison people worldwide. And that's Fauci's specialty as well. So, I mean, these guys are the heads. I can show you their award ceremonies, where they don't call it Bill Melinda Gates Foundation and laugh and say it's really the Depopulation Foundation. So he knows he's hated, probably the most hated person on earth.

The matter of you're on Facebook, Instagram, X, anywhere, there's a video about him, millions of views. 99.9% just hate his guts and understand a lot of it. Yeah, there's some of the articles. Polio vaccination causes more infections with the wild virus, then it's Bill Gates' group doing it.

So, you can see shots of him administering it. So you talk about bold gaslighting. This is stunning. So I'm going to hit this and you're going to get more information from me and anybody else. And I don't say that with pleasure

because it's very frustrating. People don't get this. And even me trying to address how bad he is, I can go 10 hours straight. I mean, it made the top of my head blow off this morning when I saw this. Elon Musk is the opposite of Bill Gates in pro-human population systems.

Gates is the Mr. I want to kill everybody on record. And now he says Elon Musk is who he is. I will not stand for it. And you shouldn't either. Ultimate fish oil is now available at InfoWoreStore.com after being sold out for more than six months. And we give it the name Ultimate, like so many of other products, because

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it is about putting all the sins of Bill Gates the head global eugenist chief mad scientist onto Elon Musk whose pro-human agenda increase the human population agenda is antithetical to Bill Gates and we owe it to President Trump and Elon Musk as the two main game changers

creating massive devastating opposition to the globalist operation so in this attempt that Bill Gates has rolled out that is multifaceted and sophisticated it's not just about Bill Gates trying to resurrect himself when he is hands down the most hated person on earth,

it is about resurrecting their entire evil system and setting everyone up for when they release a new bio weapon, which they have hundreds on the shelf conservatively, that they're on record making, that when there's mass death from it, it's Elon Musk and Trump's fault. Remember what Hotez said,

as soon as Trump gets in, he'll be hit with a new virus. Remember Fauci saying that in 2017. So we got their name, we got their number, we know their operation. This is beyond critical. And if you want tomorrow's news today, you're going to get it here. So before this news even broke today, we had Steve Kirst, the incredible computer scientist inventor, real philanthropist scheduled because of new giant studies confirming the mass deaths worldwide. from the poison shots,

new even more prestigious, devastating information. He's in the third hour. But on Gates, I am going to cover all the other incredible news in this hour. And then when I start the second hour, I am going to expose his ass like nobody else has. And here's the problem.

What I cover in the next hour, second hour, is only a small portion. guy is so bad, so evil. He's been caught all over the world, putting bio-weapons into so-called vaccines, doing illegal testing on kids, financing the creation of COVID-19, weaponized live polio vaccines, causing millions of deaths. It's all on record, by the way, and who he is and where he comes from and what he

represents. I've done this for 30 years. Because it's been known by depopulation researchers about him and his dad and how they took over the IBM World Population Control Foundation. And IBM was behind Gates. They backed him. All of it. And it's actually been known, but no one seems to have all the pieces. So it's a big victory for humanity that he's hands down the most hated person on Earth.

When I went on Joe Rogan a few years ago and said the majority of new polio cases are from Bill Gates, he went, hold on, let's fact-checked that. He found Reuters AP even admitting it. He went, wow, so I gave more evidence. And then the national news attacked myself and Joe and said we were liars. So Joe, I sent Joe a four-minute clip of Gates admitting it all and then admitting that the 80% of people that took the COVID shot in their test got really sick. because the media said that we were lying when we said that. And so that video Joe posted on Instagram last time I checked had like 100 million views.

You could read for five hours in the comments, millions of comments, not one person supporting him, and they all knew pieces of his evil. That's just an example of a snapshot of one of the, I mean, anywhere he's at, anything you see, people know he's a mass murdering killer because he's admitted it so much. I mean, he's involved releasing GMOs in Africa and South America and Florida, and they have all these weird viral outbreaks directly linked to it. I mean, the guy is a damn monster. Heavily involved in the secret geoengineering block out the sun crap.

I told you that 20 years ago. Now he's in the British news advising them on the secret program that's been ongoing to save you from global warming. I've got that in the stack. today. I mean, it just, you cannot swing a stick in the dark and not hit something evil this guy's doing. The secret of government unit. The secret

government unit planning to dim the sun on Intellegraph. And it's Bill Gates. He wants to make eat bugs. He wants to ban beef. You're like, oh, that's what Clauswob wants. Yeah, it's the same people. They're neo-futalists.

Depopulationist. I can show their awards gala. Where they go, oh, to the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation. Actually, the real name, the Global Population Control Foundation was set up

by his father. Oh, I thought it started in 2020. Yeah, right. And his father took over the Thomas Watson IBM Global Eugenics Foundation. Thomas Watson received the highest

award ever given by Nazi Germany. A special award made by Adolf Hitler for him. Thomas Watson ran and advised Joseph Mingala. They just elected a Pope. Let's put that on screen. I'm going to stop there until next hour. Oh my God. It makes me so angry.

And now he's coming out all over with a major giant paid-for propaganda newsblitz. Bill Gates is, where They're, oh, Elon Musk and Trump are going to kill everybody. They want to kill poor people. They're billionaires killing the poor people. That's who Bill Gates is. All right, give me the Pope information.

Put it on screen, please. Okay, so the smoke has come out. Crowd celebrates election of a new Pope. So soon we should, well, I hope it's a more conservative traditionalist one and not one like Francis, the black pope, which for those who don't know, that means a Jesuit pope, which is under canon law illegal, because you can't have the guardians of the church,

the Society of Jesus, the secret police of the Catholic Church, what they were set up for by Loyola, be able to then manipulate things to put their people in because then the, quote, guardians, become people that take it over. and in the democratization of the cardinals electing the pope, which has now happened.

So the question is, will the Jesuit globalist, communist, antichrist Jesuits, because you can say, is there an anti-Christ force in the Catholic church? Yeah, the Jesuits. Hillary's been asked many times, what is your thinking?

She goes, well, I'm not Catholic, but I am Jewittical. I was trained by the Jesuits. and so much of the neoliberalism crap you see as the Jesuits. So for the good of the world, the good Catholics out there, I sure hope they get a Pope that's actually not a globalist. And of course, the Jesuits used the pedophol scandals that they helped set up and infiltrate the church with to then blackmail him in. And that's on record.

I had Leo Zagami on like five, six years before they put him in. predicting it, explaining it, and then later even all came out in the news. That's how he did it. So you got the white smoke coming out of the smokestack there in the Sistine Chapel, or where they were voting. And as soon as we get that information, we will obviously be announcing that here. A lot happening today. But let me just stop on Gates now.

Because seriously, when I start thinking about who Bill Gates is and what he represents and then what this new PR rollout is and all of its pure, Yes, at every level. Oh, Trump's cutting all the money to save people with shots around the world. Oh, yeah. And so I'm going to accelerate my giving now. We'll explain how the scam works. His profits are tax-exempt.

And then he sends it the money from the government funds he gets back to himself. The guy is an absolute complete monster. And he's mad that Trump has cut off almost. all of his funding he was using. And you always hear, oh, these rich people are giving all their money. Like the one foundation with Bono. He's the best example. Raising billions a year to help Africa and he gives less than 1%.

And then they're on the news. Look at these wonderful phleatherpals giving all their money away. They don't give money away. They give it to themselves. And Bill Gates is one of the biggest spenders. I mean, billions a year in propaganda. Yeah, Bono's one foundation under Fiver giving a little over 1%. And then you read that article before that he was giving 0.7%.

So then he reformed and now gives 1.2%. And it's a giant money laundering operation for the globalist. It's the same scam over and over and over again. 300 billion a year conservatively to leftist NGOs of taxpayer money. And then large portions of it are stolen by people that run it, and then the rest is used for their propaganda. You wonder why we see leftist, anti-human, globalist garbage everywhere, even though it's super unpopular, it never goes away,

because they use your tax money to finance all of it. What do you think most of the private schools and public schools secretly form relationships to your child with social workers, telling your girl they're really a boy, your boy, they're really a girl, and using psychological warfare to brainwashed them, and then if you find out, they're trying to pass laws to take your kids, getaway saying you're abusing them because you're saying, no, that's my kid.

You're not brainwashing them. This is about destroying parental rights and our children. It's torture. It's kidnapping. And it's all hiding and play with you. And it's taxpayer money financing it through the NGOs. That's the exact same policies in Europe and around the Western world. These are sick, sick, sick, evil people.

Bono. Tony Blair, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, look at him. And you watch their World Economic Forum meetings. It's all about depopulating everybody. All about cutting up your resources. Last year, the climate envoy, John Kerry, we've got to cut farm production by half, or people starve. That's a quote.

Yeah, cut the food by half, people will starve. No one should be able to have a car. No private jets. Righty sandals, I deserve a private jet. I need it. We have the club. It's all about a war on logic. And you could get away with it for a while when people only had corporate media.

It doesn't work anymore, sweeties. All right, I'm going to stop now. Rarely does somebody make me as angry as Bill Gates. And again, the frustration is when I saw this this morning and then read his BS, and I know it was going to be before I looked at it and saw the whole plan and how dangerous it is. and the top of my head blew off because right now I've got tens of thousands of data points just going and then and then how do I describe it all and explain to people and then how to get people excited about it to do something about it because we're beating them right now I mean this is this is this is the this is key it's not just merely him calling

Elon Musk a mass murderer and putting all of his sins onto him it's the formula of how they operate and now they're preparing to release a new bio weapon and then blame Musk and Trump. Because he knows how to do assault on Musk while in Trump's doing it too, but it's Trump's the real target. And they're hopping mad, folks. Here's a microcosm of this. I'm going to stop and move on in the next hour. It's out of the news to hit. Laura Lumer discovers that the new Surgeon General nominee by Trump is a globalist

and not even, doesn't even have a medical license currently. she exposes it RNFK's VP Nicole Shanahan exposes it they called Trump and he says oh I made a mistake pulls it back we're doing that all the time

and so that's why Gates is so angry I mean you want to ask is Robert McHenny Jr. for real look what he's done so far but during the nomination process Gates got caught spending hundreds of millions of dollars in dark money trying to block Trump's selection

and then over 80 million conservatively that we found targeting the nomination of R.FK. Jr. for HHS that Gates failed at stopping. And they did it with fake news articles that 20,000 doctors all agree RFK Jr. will get you killed. And then it was fake doctors. Remember that? We broke that. And so, again, he's trying to rebrand himself and then say, If you don't let us keep running the world medical system and all the regulatory agencies, if you don't sign on the UN treaty, you're going to get millions killed any moment. Here's a clip of the Gates saying, and here it is. Now with these cuts, if they're not reversed, we'll go to over 6 million dines. So instead of going down, we'll go back up.

Wow. So it's a difference of 2 million lives? absolutely. Tommy just just mix stuff up. Meanwhile, we've got over 30 million dead in insurance actuaries from the COVID operation. He ran from the shots and growing. Bill Gates,

he's killing poor children by cutting foreign aid and says he's giving away his wealth. They will cease operation in 2045. All BS. All right. I'm going to stop now. I'm going to stop now. I'm going to stop now. I'm going to stop now. And then he's behind the geoengineering, everything.

Oh, my God. He makes me so angry. So I'm going to revisit all this. Yeah, let's see one more clip of Gates. Make that trade-up in medical costs. But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion. But that's... One issue that really grabbed me as urgent was issues related to population.

Issues related to population. In 1998, Dr. Zaven became the founding director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for Population Control. Dr. Zaven became the founding director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for Population Control. We see a lot of things that are going very well, things like reducing childhood death and... Things like reducing childhood death and things like reducing childhood death and... First, we've got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services,

we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%. Is spending a million dollars on that last three months of life for that patient, would it be better not to lay off those 10 teachers? and to make that trade-off in medical costs. But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion.

But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion. Today, the greatest risk of global catastrophe doesn't look like this. Instead, it looks like this. If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it's most likely to be a highly-influenced,

infectious virus rather than a war. If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it's most likely to be a highly infectious virus. So let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. Now malaria is, of course, transmitted by mosquitoes. by mosquitoes. I brought some here so you could experience this. We'll let those roam around the auditorium a little bit. I brought some here so you could experience this. We'll let those

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We clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because they're most at risk of that. And doing that so that you amp it up so it works in older people, and yet you don't have side effects. If we have one in 10,000 side effects, that's way more, 700,000, you know, people who will suffer from that. Way more, 700,000, you know, people who will suffer from that.

But you don't have a choice. People act like you have a choice. People don't feel like going to the stadium when they might get infected. But you don't have a choice. People act like you have a choice. What else are we not listening to that we need to take action on now? Well, the idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario. The idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario.

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world order. It's Alex Jones. The last beacon of truth in a world of deception it's Alex Jones. 30 minutes. The Cardinals have elected a new pope to replace the globalist Kingpin Francis, the Jesuit black Pope, and we're going to find out if they've elected a traditionalist

or a globalist here in a moment. Then we have just huge news on the India-Pakistan front, massive news with Trump, and just huge success, country after country, signing on to the trade plan that Trump put forward to them that's not one-sided and helps the American people, but also is fair. Kare Starmer, capitulating, Carney capitulating, 10, 15 countries a day signing on. Massive success, total global political realignment. That's coming up.

And so much more today. But let's go see some of the live Fox coverage and what they're saying right now about the election. this new pope and they say any moment now they've got the swiss guard out there marching into formation they're going to be announcing a good chance it'll happen right now here we go jonathan morris here as we observe this absolutely breathtaking scene you know jonathan as we look at this pomp and circumstance it's beautiful but i just want to remind the audience you know i've i've seen comparisons to buckingham palace and it's really not what this is about what this is all about is what francis orenzi said he's a bishop and he said we want to pope who's

full of fire for the kingdom of Christ. We want someone who's going to spread the gospel. Just that. This is about a moment where Catholics have picked who will represent 50% of Christians in the world. That is the percentage of Catholics when you look at Christianity as a whole. It doesn't appear that we have Father Morris. He's here. Go ahead. Yeah.

I'm a little bit overwhelmed. Yeah, so any moment, the new Pope's going to walk out on the balcony for radio listeners that can't say this. They're at Vatican City, where the last so-called Pope said, you know, they have 300-400-foot walls. The bigger ones somewhere 100 feet. The shortest ones are 80 feet. You can't have balls for your country, and you should open your borders up and take people into your homes, but the Vatican didn't take one person in. So total hypocrite, total globalist, who used pedophile scandals to take control of the church.

and said nothing in the West with the German government, the British government, the other UK nations, the U.S. under Biden, waging war on conservative Catholics, calling him the number one terror threat despite no crime of any type of terror being committed by any Catholic. I mean, you'll look it up. It's like complete BS. Catholics engaged in terror. They're the number one terror threat because they're traditionalists or conservative. Oh, my God, they want a Latin Mass. Oh, these people are dangerous. I mean, it's ridiculous. So I wonder if the new Pope will say we should have it with borders,

and it discussed him to hear about Christian roots in Europe. That's a quote. Let's go back to the feed. He will come out and then will say his given name by his parents, his first and middle name and then his last name. And then that cardinal will say he has taken the name. and he will say the name of the new pope. It's going to be, you know, the beauty here,

it's because the church has had a long time to practice this a couple thousand years, but it's all new today because it's a new chapter in the Catholic Church. Let's listen in again for a moment, taking this beautiful scene. The Constitution has to be taken over from the inside out. And the capture of the Catholic Church,

and you can debate whether it was captured or infiltrated like any other institution before, but there was no doubt with Francis. And Catholics all the world recognized that. It's been a major pressure for them to elect an actual Catholic, and that'll be another sign of the global realignment back to the West and back to sanity if it does happen.

Because if the globalists lose control of the Catholic Church, they don't have control of people, but the control system of it, that is another big victory. I'm again for people that are like I don't care about the Catholics or what's that matter I mean this this is all important to everybody because Francis really helped get the globalist invasion of Europe going even worse he just he did so much I mean it's just I mean you have to say he's a horrible person and we just tuned in we got live feed from the Vatican here of the election of the new pope what number of

Pope is this in the thousands of years since Constantine would be the first one unofficially. There is a new Pope developing 267th. Francis appointed 108 of the 103rd 3 Cardinals voting for his successor. Yeah, and if they get another globalist pope in, then they'll have a majority of their operatives in, and then you could officially say that the Catholic church has been captured completely by the B system. That's my opinion. I'm not trying to attack Catholics or anybody. Catholics are great people.

On average, Catholics I know, you know, wonderful. This is just, I know they're the most concerned people about this. This is just, I mean, this is not as important as getting Trump elected, but almost. I mean, it's a big deal. Half the Christians in the world are Catholics. And they've got institutions everywhere. And you saw Catholic charities one of the worst. So-called Catholic charities running illegal aliens into the U.S., you name it.

I mean, we need to understand this is important. The suspense is really bad here. And they always have him come out before the sun sets behind. Was it the Basilica, they call it? So there should be any minute here St. Peter's Basilica. See, I don't care about some NFL overtime Super Bowl

because that doesn't matter. I don't have any suspense watching a football game like that. I have suspense here. Please don't let it be a globalist. Francis saying all these communists and leftist leaders, oh, they can have communion even know they're pro-abortion.

It's blasphemous. And Pope Francis, in my opinion, my opinion was a blasphemous person. I mean, that's really bad when you got somebody representing the biggest denomination of Christians who in every way is not a Christian by his actions. But that's how Satan operates. He captures control of things. Oh, boy.

A lot of suspense here. Hey, see you can get Leo Zagami on. I should have thought to get him on today. So much going on. Oh, I'm actually sick to my stomach right now with a suspense. Well, regardless, the sleeping giant of humanity is awakened. We're seeing the biggest revivals across the board of people waking up that there is a fight between good versus evil. Evil's really taking the mask off.

And so, but if they get another pope in for 10 years or whatever, they'll have, as Cardinals died, and they appoint all the new ones, they'll have 80s. percent of the Cardinals being operatives, and then it's, I mean, that'll be it. I mean, if you thought Francis was bad, they're going to be really emboldened and arrogant. It kicked the guy, or how we pronounce it, a great guy, really smart, anti-globalist, out of the Catholic Church, excommunicated him because he was criticizing the globalist take over and saying the church has been captured by Satan basically at the top. It's true. And people that bash Catholics all day, and, well, it was bad before. The point is, it's real bad right now.

And, I mean, it's never been anywhere, anything like this. There's been some, you know, obviously pubs that weren't the best in history. But comparing, like, John Paul II or something, and a lot of hardcore Catholics are like, he wasn't good. But, I mean, compared to this guy. so we'll see if the Jesuit coup beachhead they got with Francis of the last decade

however long it's been how long is Francis how long is he the Pope? Eight years, nine years, I forget. We'll see if that beach had they got now takes some of the Catholic Church for good because I mean I don't know how once

they get all the Cardinals how you ever reverse that. Twelve years man time flies. Oh, that's right, because he had the other pub step down. First time that. You know, that was the Jesuit coup in there, using the pedophile blackmail to control the church. Which Zagami was saying 20 years ago,

and it would be Francis they put in it, and he was right, but nobody was saying that. And it was even hit all the news that they used pedophile blackmail to get control. Just like the globalists do with all these other agencies and intelligence agencies, Epstein, all of that. That's how he do it. It's a damn cult. And it's taking over everything.

But now the world's waking up to it. All right. Any minute now, we will see. We'll fade out of this for a minute. And as soon as we have movement crew, just fade it back up. I said I'd get the gates, start of the next hour, and do it to tail break down. I will. But I need to hit the trade news.

I need to hit the military news. And it's all huge. It's very important. and we're winning, team humanity, team capitalism, freedom, the West, is winning. So, but I need to respond to whoever this new Pope is, hit that. So I'll hit Gates bottom of the next hour, and I will do it. And I'm going to explain what's happening and why this big rollout against Musk is so big, because it tells you how they're next attack is going to roll.

It means it's all right there. They're getting ready to release a new virus. as they've been threatening to do. And it's going to be Gates, you know, returned. See, he was right. He's a good guy. It's all Elon Musk and Trump's fault. They're saying that.

We've known this is coming. They said they'd do this. People ask how I knew this 20 years ago, I mean, they were saying in Rockefeller Foundation, CIA public stuff, they're going to use the virus to bring in a world government control system. And they did it, but it blow up their face. So we'll go back to this as soon as they bring out the new pawn of

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Not just that from all that these countries represented, but it's a moment of joy. And think about, you know, in our own lives, and really in the business that we're in, we don't see a ton of joy in a lot of the stuff we cover. But this is one of those moments. Now, listen, the sun's going to set at 816 in Rome, but I think we're going to see the man, whoever that man is long before that. You know, tradition dictates within an hour. So I would think the window here is anywhere between the next 10 or 20 minutes before they walk out there.

And then Harris, we were on the couch yesterday asking the question, in which direction does this church choose to go? And do they, after choosing a pope from Germany and from Poland and then Argentina, do they bring it back to Europe, do they bring it back to the country of Italy where it had been for almost 500 years? Or Harris, when you consider that 25 new countries for the first time have a car, Cardinal in this conclave? Does the church reach out to the continent of Africa, where the Catholic Church is growing at a rate where you won't find it anywhere else in the planet as quickly as Africa?

And there are some leading candidates from the continent as well. Do they go to Southeast Asia? You've heard a lot about the Cardinal from the Philippines. Is that the choice? Listen, as Americans, we have to consider the possibility as Much as many others may try and lessen that possibility, but there's a chance there could be an American that walks out in that logic. And I was talking with Jonathan yesterday, and he said if that happens, he'll cry. And I imagine a lot of people in the Catholic Church in America will do that as well. Just one more comment here.

I think Jonathan Morris nailed it 40 minutes ago. He said, this is not about a man. And they went on to explain what you're seeing on the third. faces of those in St. Peter's Square. It's about a movement and it's about the hope and the faith that they chose well. And we're about to find out.

You know, in watching this this week, it reminds me so much that, and I love when Jonathan said this moments ago, sometimes people need a reminder of what true faith and love of God looks like. And there are messengers that the Lord

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Well, we're about to see one of the most famous faces in the whole world. Yes. Because their life, at least in their earthen vessel here on this planet, is about to change. You know, Bill, you privately shared with me yesterday, I don't think you'd mind me revealing your prediction, that we would have a new pope before Friday. Well, we sit here at 12.56 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, and we are going to have a new pope within minutes. you will hear Proto Deacon Cardinal Mbherty say,

I announce to you with great joy we have a pope. It will be in Latin. The most eminent and most reverend lord, insert a name. By Bill Himmer standards, are you surprised at the timing of this? Four votes, 89 people coming together led by the Holy Spirit to announce the name. We will hear any moment. The only thing that surprises me is that there was some conjecture

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one of their people in, and he lives a while and more cardinals die, it's going to be bad. Petro, Paralin, is that how you said? From Italy, he's in the betting odds who they think it's going to be, and that's usually accurate. So let's look at him. Here he is right here. Pytro Perilin, is a conservative anti-same-sex marriage, anti-globalists,

and they haven't had an Italian pope in a long time. But it could also be this conservative, Peter Turkson out of Africa, the conservative Gaon and Cardinal leading the African church, a top contender to become the next pope. And so he's not a globalist. He's got a good record, they say. So we will watch this very, very closely,

obviously here as the suspense continues to build. Now, who knows if the main betting sites are going to be right this time. But they are generally vast, majority of the time right because you've got all these millions of people betting on things and there's a lot of knowledge of the crowd and people do their research and tends to hit it so we will see what happens here very very soon like I said though as soon as this announcement made we'll look at it we'll move on and we'll get some guests on today tomorrow analyze the details and look at the

repercussions of that. But I really want to hit the big victories on the trade deals that are not bigger than just trade deals. It's about a global political realignment and the U.K. capitulating completely to what Trump wanted and a bunch of others doing in India. I mean, just the list goes on and on. More countries every day. Trump was saying in press conference a few days ago, he said, man, it might be 30. We might announce 30 deals early next week. That's how many we've got basically done. And that's exciting because under globalist policies, it was deindustrialized the West, and the U.S. was the main target of that.

And again, the globalists made deals with the countries like China to be the middlemen to screw us. They would get a big piece of it. And they would use that to consolidate even more power and more control. And they had this model of cutting off the resources to general public so they could dictate the terms of our surrender. That's why they want you poor. tyrants always want you poor because if you're independent and can take care of yourself well you don't need them and

you can be more easily punished and controlled especially with a social credit score as Larry thinks that they would do if you are poor so they are at war with prosperity they're at war with peace they're at war with tranquility they're at war with competition and success because that's not good for the wicked they want to control people it's very simple and I know everybody

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The betting markets that are the most accurate, generally for predicting major political elections and religious elections like this, has this Italian Cardinal Pietro Perrin as 65% the winner because they haven't had a Italian Pope in a long time also he's very conservative and the conservatives know that if they

another globalist pope they're going to be voted out forever they've got Lewis Antonio Tagli 23% and it just goes on from there that we've heard a lot about Peter Turkson the Cardinal out of Africa who's

also conservative, and he'd be the first black pope. I don't mean black as in a Jesuit pope. That's what we just said that violates Catholic law, basically. You're not supposed to have the defenders of the church group and be able to take it over because they would then set up a coup like we've been seeing with the ongoing globalist activities of Francis. So we'll continue to watch that as it unfolds. But I want to talk about Trump and the so-called trade deals. It's a lot bigger than trade.

And under the globalist system, they deindustrialized us by design to control us. And even Aristotle, the most famous philosopher of all times, said it is also in the interest of the tyrant to make his subjects poor. The people are so preoccupied with their daily task that they have no time for plotting, plotting their own life. their own interest. That's why communism makes you poor on purpose. That's why it always does that. Any totalitarian system wants the general public at a subsist level. That is the system of feudalism. Plenty of resources, but they're kept from the public in a class society, like you've seen in India and everywhere else. And it happens over and over and over and over again. And the Renaissance, the last 500 years in the West, is about decentralizing power and empowering the

people and then it raises everybody up. But that's not good for tyrant. So when the Democrats and the leftists, the communists promise all these goodies, they admit their clover and private strategy. That's just a modern political philosophy on the philosophy of tyrants that already existed. They didn't invent that. It's just a Democrat Party policy since the 70s. To get everybody addicted to government money, get people domesticated, get them dumb down,

and then crash the capitalist system and then bring in a total tyranny in the name of giving everybody free stuff, but then you learn you don't get free anything. Oh, health care is free. You just don't ever get to see a doctor. And it's cold-blooded, and it's done by design. Like everything else, the globalist do.

And that's the official plan of the Great Reset, the UN, the WF, is the Great Reset collapsing the Capital Society because they say it's wasteful for you to have air conditioning or a car But they could fly around on private jets like Bernie Sanders. No one should have private jets. They're bad. But I get one. I'm important.

So do as I say, not as I do. So President Trump has announced a major trade deal with the United Kingdom. And tied to that is the United Kingdom, Starmert, claiming he won't keep doing all the tyranny and arresting people that prey outside abortion clinics and all the rest of it. That remains to be seen. But, you know, his last administration, the EU and the UK promised to do these deals, and they never did them. So Trump just wanted to force it. It ended up being one hell of a deal for the U.S. Wrights Nick Swardore, or $6 billion in new tariff revenues.

U.S. trade on imports from U.K. raised to 10 percent. UK tariffs on imports from U.S. lowered to 1.8. 5 billion in new exports from the U.S. And you ask, well, why did they agree to have a super-exper, low tariff on us, and then we have a big one on them, because they have a lot of built-in other than monetary tariffs and taxes

and regulations that preclude our goods, and this is the formula that Trump's team came up with, and they've agreed to it. That's why it's an a la carte per country negotiations going on. And the left's like, we don't know what's happening, it's a whip saw.

Well, that's what negotiations are like. And Starrmer literally grobbled to him today in a phone call on speaker phone that aired. And then, of course, we have Carney that attacked Trump viciously two weeks ago, but this week rolled over other than a statement about, well, we're not for sale. No, no, yeah, because the globalist is here in control Canada right now. Trump's saying, why don't you join us in the U.S. actually have representation.

But I don't think that's a good idea because Canada's so leftist. But certainly, it can be an economic 51st state that can be the benefit of all of us. said hundreds of billions to them and then no benefits to the U.S. citizens, and even the Canadians just get paid double, triple prices and everything, because Canada has monopolies and combines and cartels, which is another name for oligopoly. A group of companies working and forming the equivalent of a monopoly. That's what Canadians pay.

Again, double triple on average for everything, food, energy, you name it, because there's no competition because they have controlled trade. so it hurts them too not just us and Trump's totally right about that let's go to a clip of Trump talking about the trade deal and its benefits here it is in addition the UK will reduce or eliminate numerous non-tariff barriers that unfairly discriminated against

American products but this is now turning out I think really to be a great deal for both countries because it'll be really great for the UK also. So they're opening up the country. Their country is a little closed, and we appreciate that. They'll also be fast-tracked in American goods through their customs process, so our exports go to a very, very quick form of approval, and there won't be any red tape. Things are going to move very quickly both ways.

The final details are being written up in the coming weeks. will have it all very conclusive, but the actual deal is a very conclusive one. We think just about everything's been approved. So good for both countries. The doors are opening. We're going to go back to Trump in a statement in the moment, but they're bringing out the new Pope. Here he is. He's first. There's a good. The Cardo Proto deacon. He's smiling. He's smiling. He will give us the announcement. Here we are.

The first dance. Thank you. Gaudium manium. Abemus Papam. Abemus Papam. Eminentissimum, eminensim, acrevendissim, Dominum, Dominum Robertum Franciscum,

Saint Romane and Ecclesia Cardinalem Prevost. Who, Sibinomen, imposuit, Leonem december quastum. So, the Pope is Cardinal Robert Francis Provost, who's taken the name of Leo the 14th, Pope Leo the 14th. Cardinal Provost is an American, and he spent most of his ministry in Latin America, in Peru, and also in Paraguay.

and he's an Augustinian father. He was the provincial in Latin America and then became the Bishop of Chiclio in Peru. And he then is also, he became the Superior General of the Augustinian fathers as well. He's now been the prefect of the DeCastrian fathers. for bishops. We see the Cardinal Electors.

They're appearing on the balcony there as well with this joy and their smiles on their face. A great joy indeed. And, well, it wasn't one of those a panellating, so to say. What a great joy. It's a wonderful joy. And he's from Chicago.

Illinois. Okay. An American. An American. Thanks. And American. I think that's a historic moment. Sure.

Truly, truly. And you can see all the colonel on the different balconies there. For our radio listeners, you may not be able to see this, of course. But they're appearing on all the balconies to the left and right of the central balcony there. All of them appearly standing out with their red investments and smiles. Waiting for all of us to greet this new pope as well. Which now we know his name. Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, Augustinian.

and has served as prefect for for bishops a native of Chicago, Illinois, in the United States. And so as we said before, you know, you saw all the flags and everything out in the square, and now all the Americans are holding their flags. It's a historical... All right, well, it wasn't the Italian, and I'm not an expert on this. We're trying to find out, is this guy a conservative? Let's go back to the feed.

continuation of evangelization mission of the priority yeah so you can see still the they're like little pockets of red where all the cardinals are standing on the balconies from our vatty drone footage you know

and seeing it from above there it's a unique view perched above in front of the facade and looking down at them as they're on the balconies there awaiting now as the new pope

as we mentioned there Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost and Pope Leo 14th Pope Leo the 14th Pope Leo the 14th And of course his Leo the 13th was the great

social reforming Pope for us And he he died in 1903 So still fairly recent in the grand scheme of things Was Pope Leo the one with Ferrarum no one? Yes exactly He goes, good memory.

I hope my son married. And then his successors wrote other encyclicals every 40 years afterwards. So he started like a train. Yes, and it's really one of the constitutions of Catholic Social Ministry and Catholic Social Doctor. I'm probably, I would say, of hope needed for our times, without the social challenges the world's house today. Yes, yes. And he's relatively young, 69 years old, born on the 14th of September, 1955, as you mentioned in Chicago.

Illinois and so 69 well and Father Paul as you were just saying I agree and maybe Father Bob you can really stress this point because you are you work in social like social community exactly

this is an important aspect as the church the Catholic social social teaching is important very and it's also important the the dental story of the church about the hidden secret of All right, here's the bottom line.

Pope Leo, the 14th, an American cardinal from Chicago, is a Pope Francis Light. So he doesn't think they need to have women priests, and so they call that conservative. That's just standard. But he's for open borders and all the rest of it. so that is not good basically he used the term gay and transgenderist

communications as a first for a pope and met regularly with members of the LGBT community that's Pope Francis but it's saying that this guy basically supported that so we will continue

to follow that but the big thing is is he supported Francis on worshipping the migrants and saying everybody's got to let him in, but of course the Vatican City doesn't have to. So they're calling him a moderate with views close to Pope Francis. That's what you get from chat GPT and what you get from the corporate media. So they're calling him a centrist like Pope Francis.

Oh yeah, Pope Francis is a centrist. So that's what we always were told. Oh, he's very centrist. So there's the gimmick that he's American showing how much power shipped it back to the United States. And, of course, you see the Catholic Church helping the UN. I mean, it doesn't just help it. It's one of the top offenders run invasions of Europe and the U.S. and the rest of the West. And so they just suck in billions and billions a year of government money to do that.

Trump's been cutting that off. But I don't know. We'll have to learn more about this guy. does not look good to me. We can open the phones up in the fourth hour. If Catholics know more about this than I do, man, I know quite a bit, but not as much as traditional Catholics out there. I know that are really up on all this.

Hey, let's see what Mel Gibson thinks. I wonder if he said anything yet. We should. I know he's really on top of everything. So is his son. So we will, I guess I could call them. I'm trying to find what they think.

But Robert Francis Prevost, born September 14, 55, is an American Catholic. He has been the prefect of the diacastry of bishops and president of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. He was the bishop in Peru. In 2015, 2023, he has made a cardinal in 2023 by Pope Francis. He was born in Chicago, Illinois.

All right. Well, his eyes don't look evil like Francis. I mean, Francis looks evil to me. I mean, not just the action. It looks like an evil dude. You know, you have to go with your gut, too. So he doesn't look evil. Now, those aren't really evil.

ebel eyes are they now a little bit well we're going to have to see the actions but boy it could have been a lot better so the betting markets were wrong rarely are this guy wasn't even really making the grade so i guess uh the fox news host hammer called it he said i think it could be american pope we could be seeing the first year all right let's go back to the live feed here very special moments congratulations And here he is. There he is. And the applause going up, the greeting, the waving.

Big smiles. How amazing. Oh, amazing. And Dr. Elizabeth was also talking about the symbolism of the red that he's wearing. You know, it is a sacrificial role, and that is the symbol of the cloth that he's wearing right now. And we see this beautiful close-up view from the side there. at the same level as the Lodja, popular the 14th.

Porplio the 14th. Amazing. Smiling. And you can see who wouldn't be taken by the moment. I think going through his mind, you know, the weight of his responsibility. Oh, yeah. You can see it on his face. You can see it on his face.

Amazing. After this, you're never the same person. No. No. And we're hearing the bands, the neutral salute of the anthems, the Hymns of the Vatican Hymn and the Italian national anthem, as we do traditionally, traditionally at the Eastern and Christmas as we've mentioned. And after this now, Pope Leo the 14th, he will give a greeting and impart his first Apostlock blessing,

the Urbiet Orbi, to the city and to the whole world. So that blessing extends to everyone who is watching, everyone who is listening, your family, whatever you are. It's a great moment to prepare ourselves for this. The fourth hour, and I will do the whole hour on this, I will open the phones up for Catholics

to call in and give their take on this. We'll do research in the time being on this guy. I can just tell you that this does not look good, but he's not as bad as

Francis on a first look. He's speaking. Let's cut to him. This is the first salute of Christ Resorto, the good pastor that has given the life for the grege of God. Also, I would

that this salute of peace, entrances in our heart, to reaches the families, to all the people, of themque are to all the popoli

a total the peace is with you we're just hearing the first words of Popolio the 14th as he continues we'll provide a summary here in just a moment as we listen to his words he's asked everyone to

this is the peace this is the peace of the rich christ is armata a peace that is disarmating hume that is disarming and humble and humble and persevering. It comes from God.

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Cuts, if they're not reversed, we'll go to over 6 million dine. So instead of going down, we'll go back up. Wow. So it's a difference of 2 million lives. Absolutely. Is there something to worry about with medicines? That is, might some of them have side effects? Do we need safety testing?

I mean, we're taking things that are, you know, genetically modified organisms, and we're injecting them in the little kid's arms. We just shoot them right into the vein. All right. There was a massive corporate media push that Bill Gates paid for. That's on record across the entire U.S. media, global media, that Elon Musk is going to kill millions and millions of people

because Doge is in there cutting foreign aid to Bill Gates's mad scientist activities everywhere. The torturing beagles to death with flesh eating worms, the injecting children

and giving them oral live polio, which AP in orders admit is the main cause of polio now, run by Bill Gates. Bill Gates, with his funding and government funding, he gets creating COVID. 19, Fauci, all of them worked for him. Bill Gates' dad

ran Planned Parenthood. Bill Gates' Foundation was originally named the Global Population Control Foundation. They changed the name in 2000 to the Bill of Monde Gates Foundation. And he's on record saying, kill

old people, euthanasia, cut people's medical care, force inject everyone, have lockdowns. He wants to blot out the sun. He supports all the secret government geoengineering that they're now admitting they've been doing. To quantify how bad he is, is a tall order because there's so much. He is the most hated person on earth, hands down, the architect of the lockdowns and the

tyranny. And then he comes out with a new political relaunch all about how must, and by extension, Trump, are going to get everybody killed and these new viruses are going to eminently come get us and these new viruses are going to appear because a global warming know out of laboratories he's financed. And then there's a huge lie that he's a philanthropist. What he does is he made his companies and his wealth tax exempt completely in 2000, but already partially.

He then puts a large portion of the profit, not explaining how, of that money, into buying policy at the UN and in nations around the world, including here in the United States, getting his people into positions of power in the regulatory agencies, then they go get governments to sign on with government grants and NGOs and the hundreds of billions a year around the world, back into companies and organizations he owns or his foundation controls, including private companies he's heavily invested in for the so-called vaccines and other drugs that then become the recommended.

vaccines, the recommended drugs to the public. So he controls your medical care. He's your doctor. That's not a secret. Even court media is like, oh, Bill Gates is great. He really controls medical policy almost everywhere. Only China and Russia wouldn't take the Pfizer and Moderna and other frank and shot injections during all of that. He was out there.

Oh, sorry. You have to stay locked down. That's the way it is. Ha, ha, ha. So it's a relaunch of the globalists. it's a rebranding of Gates putting what he is, the top globalist death cult eugenicist on record. You can say he's the kingpin responsible for all the death. There are a lot of others, but he's the boss.

His dad was the boss over the main depopulation globalist foundation. That he took over for IBM, who Thomas Watson created, the global top eugenicist on record. given the highest award ever given by Nazi Germany. And Bill Gates has bragged about all of this. With his dad, Bill Gates Sr. So this is amazing. And so it's a public threat to the world. Like you from Tedros to WHO and Hotez and Fauci and all the mouthpieces,

oh, if you don't keep doing what we're doing and taking all the shots, well, then the new virus is going to show up and kill everybody. Oh, a new virus is going to challenge the Trump administration. Hotez, all of them. So here's Bill Gates saying, oh, if you don't bring the funding back, the deadly viruses are going to get you. And then who was the main funder of EcoHealth Alliance

that was just the front group for bringing the virus to China so they could cover up that it was from Chappahill, North Carolina, in a National Institutes of Health National Initiative by Obama in 2012, 13, 40, 50, got exposed. They moved it from North Carolina to Wuhan, China. We've had the vice president on. Dr. Huff blowing the whistle, all of it. And at the heart of it all is Bill, Gates, and Fauci.

And Fauci was back in power in the 80s, put in the HIV. It's come out in the hepatitis shots and key gay homosexual populations in New York, San Francisco. This has all come out as vectors to then spread the virus. And then they sell toxic, deadly drugs that they make money off of the whole world. And U.S. taxpayers, quote, helping Africa pay. to then ship the drugs to those countries, and it's actually the drugs that kill you worse than the virus. If you get real medical care like Magic Johnson,

oh, you recover from it all the time. Charlie Sheen's had HIV for decades, it turns out, just fine because he didn't take the AZT and the rest of it. So this is a giant fraudulent system, just like Rendesivir, liquefies your organs, kills you. But that was the only drug that they got approved globally because they control the regulators. It's the same thing with the AIDS drugs, all of it.

It's about the population. Bayer got caught, knowingly putting HIV hepatitis in to factor 8 clotting product. And it came out in lawsuits and criminal indictments in Australia and France. They just said, so what? There's so many hemophiliacs. Ha, ha, ha. This is the not just attitude,

but the mission of these people. So it's a public threat. it's trying to flip the script and say, oh, it's Elon Musk and Trump, and you watch a new virus is about to hit you, it's about to get you. That's the talking point. And it then rebrands him as well.

I'm going to give all my money now even faster because Trump and Musk have cut the money off. But that's he gets your taxpayer money. And then it goes back to all of his companies and his wealth gets greater and greater and greater and greater and greater. And they call it philanthropy, just like the UN, and the W.E.F. has raised tens of billions through the one foundation with Bono as the front man,

and they all have giant palaces and jets and everything they live off of, and they give one percent of the money, actually to Africa, and that's with strings attached. Oh, you want some AZT? You want a drug that'll kill you? When the Africans have figured it out, they refuse it all. It's why Africa had the lowest uptake of the COVID shots and, of course, the lowest death rate. The Africans have figured it out. and you can go back to articles in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Lenin Guardian, back in 2009.

They're like, oh, the good club with all these top billionaires led by Bill Gates at the Albert Einstein Institute in New York, Albert Einstein University, they meet to talk about how to have a world government covertly to depopulate you and how their mission is depopulating. We just put that on screen. Go read the article for yourself. It's all right there. Oh, they're so good. And if you scroll down to the different articles,

Warren, Buffett, Bill Gates, George Soros, Oprah, Ted Turner, all those depopulationists, David Rockefeller, they say the goal is global depopulation. They pulled up the London Guardian version. I know it's in the Wall Street Journal when they actually admit it.

See if that's got the quote in there from their own document. So they're telling you out of one side of their mouth what they're doing, yep, to stop overpopulation. and Bill Gates famously 15, 20 years ago, 18 years ago, whatever it was, at the TED Talk said, we got to get this number down to stop carbon, and the number's humans.

And everybody laughs, because they're in on the club of depopulationist death cult, which is the club of Rome, globalist think tanks us the 60s that developed the current plan we're under. So he thinks, well, Doge has been demonized, must is under attack, I won't attack Trump frontally,

I'll just say, Elon's a rich billionaire killing poor people. When that's exactly what his stated goal and aim is, he's given himself awards at their foundation that's really named the Global Population Control Foundation. Bill Gates accused Elon Musk of killing children with U.S. aid cuts. Gates, Nukes Musk, world's richest killing poorest, close quote. Oh, yeah, it's not Bill Gates' killing.

people and saying he wants to. It's all Elon must fall. The picture of the world's richest man killing the world's poorest children is not a pretty one, said Gates, who told the times that he loved for him must go in and meet the children. They have now been infected

with HIV because he cut American aid that had been going to hospitals in Mozambique. Why are the children getting HIV? They're putting on the shots they've been caught. Pull up, Reuters. Majority of global polio cases from the UN's polio vaccine program.

And Bill and Melinda Gates program, run that. Reuters, AP. The 200 billion gamble, Bill Gates planned to wind down his foundation by 2045. Oh, all about how he's giving money and how nice he is. 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth, he writes. He's such a nice man. Meanwhile, he goes to Dave, I was famously in Clipsis, says, oh, I make, you know, 20 to 1 profits, 15 to 1 profits off my vaccine programs.

They're all laughing at us. I'm going to table that now and get more into it later. Because we got Leo Zagami, the Vatican expert on. I've been to roam with him. He's got all the different contacts able to get in there. He's nobody else says he predicted years before Francis, the first Jesuit Pope was put in that it would happen, how they'd use blackmail to take control. And it even came out mainstream years later that that is how Francis was able.

able to get control. We know the Jesuits helped set up infiltration of communist and pedopholes into the Catholic Church. So Leo Zagam, we have the first American Pope being brought in from my first glance. I'm on an expert like you. He appears to be globalist Francis Light, at least in the service,

light version of Francis agreeing with most of it, but they build Francis as a moderate. Of course, you document that he's not. But you are the Vatican expert of experts. What is your take on this individual and where you expect this, Leo Zagami, and bestselling author, a researcher I should add. Go ahead, Leo.

Thank you, Alex, for having me on. This is, of course, a pivotal moment and a turning point in the history of the Catholic Church, following, of course, the teachings and what was already outlined by Pope Francis, who just before he went into hospital, was working with the U.S. Bishop Conference on yet again waging war against Trump presidency. This is a sign by the cardinals that rather than choosing somebody from Asia or from Africa, they wanted to actually insidiously nominate and elevate to the pontificate, somebody who is America. It's the first time in history, but Robert Francis Prevost is no friend of Donald J. Trump. He is, of course, somebody who comes from Chicago, but also with a vast history in South America that connects him to the infamous Jesuit order. And he is from an order himself, the Augustinians, who have worked hand in hand

with the Jesuits on the control of the educational establishment. Today, if you think about the main issues Trump is trying to fight, immigration policies, well, in this regard, he will have to fight against this Pope because he's very much a supporter of what the Democrats were doing, open borders and all the rest. When it comes down to transgenderism and all that, that's another issue. The Jesuits and of course this new Pope have been pushing, being open to transgenderism and LGBT.

And then you have, aside from all this, also the Vatican-China deal that this Pope will continue to support, which is a way for China of creeping inside the Catholic Church. the policies of the NGOs that of course are connected with the Vatican and the Catholic Church are the ones that have supported this massive immigration that has brought us in the situation where we are now. Of course, systematic warfare by the judicial system is also waged with the support of the Vatican. So this is no friend of Rio America. This is actually going to become a problem because most people, simple people, people, the ordinary folk, would say, wow, we finally have the first American Pope. What a great thing.

It's not a great thing. And I have outlined in my new book that just came out how Pope Francis has rigged this conclimate this conclave, which nominated his successor. So he could have, of course, 80% of the cardinals on his side and nominate somebody who, who will follow in the policies of Vatican 2. Those policies that Pope Francis said were only completed by 50%. There's another 50% that will, of course, not only destroy the remains of Christianity, but then eventually will bring us to the integration with other religions.

Because now the next thing this Pope will do will step down from his role of Pope and rather be perceived as a bishop amongst bishop to favour the unification of all Christian churches. It's going to be a war against Trump waged by the church every day in which we will hear, of course, from this pope what you might hear from the Democratic Party, which has demonstrated in the last few years

to be the political branch of the vogue, and Jesuit-led New World Order here in the United States. So it's not a good day. Some Americans might perceive it as a good day. For those who were hoping in a traditional Pope, in somebody who will support also a return to the Latin Mass, this will be, of course, a disappointment because this Pope has no intention in going back,

but rather in moving forward. He was born in children. Chicago, he's part of the Augustinians, which is an order which is actually older than the Jesuits, has been around for a very long time since the

12th and 13th century. They established themselves. He's been the president, though, of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. And that's where he worked hand in hand with the Jesuits in pushing forward more liberation theology, more

of a mix of Marx, and Catholicism, which is what the church has been in the hands of Pope Francis, of course, that follows the dictates of the Second Vatican Council, in which the church was taken over in the first half of the 1960s by Freemasons and Jesuits who had, of course, progressive values. He served as bishop of Siklaio in Peru, which is, of course, another hellhole, and he did it from 2015 to 2021, He was general of the order of St. Augustine. What does it mean general? This kind of orders, just like the Jesuit order, have a general because they are rather military in their nature.

And like I stated earlier, it kind of has a lot of links to the Jesuits, especially when it comes down to education. So we are seeing the great war that Trump is conducting in favor of a different. form of education here in the United States America, well, you are fighting against, of course, a system which is very much in the image of what the Jesuits want. I mean, Ford and Georgetown, these are the places that have shaped some of the most influential leaders. When you have

Dr. Fauci doing what he has done is because he's a Jesuit stooge. He doesn't only teach in Georgetown. It was also formed and shaped and molded since a very early age by the Jesuit. Well, Hillary Klanjian has repeatedly said that she, you know, she doesn't follow any ideology, but a juitical mindset of the Jesuits. And if people don't understand. And Gavin Newsome, and Gavin Newsom, he has actually said it publicly.

He follows the Jesuits. So here we're talking about the worst of the worst of the Democratic Party. And obviously, Trump, Trump is sophisticated many ways, but obviously he wants to say something nice because he likes Catholics in general. They're big supporters that has, but his statements just came out, Leo. Congratulations to Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, who was just named Pope. It is such an honor to realize that he is the first American Pope. What excitement and what a great honor for our country. I look forward to

meeting. Pope Leo, it will be a very meaningful moment. But in my first look, that's what I thought. I said, please get Zagami on. Of course, you're an expert on all these guys because this guy has chosen my name, first of all. And the last pope had this name was a conservative, who fought Freemasonry, the establishment that eventually took over the church. So to actually take on this name for me is already an insult.

But in any case, you are right in what you are saying. Well, am I wrong, though? I mean, is he Francis light or is he as bad as Francis? He's worse than Francis. Because Francis said that the policies of the Vatican and two were only implementing by 50%, and then his successor will have to implement the next 50%. And so now, explain how this works,

as more cardinals die, more cardinals get into vote for the next pope and policies, I mean, so this looks like the globalist takeover the Catholic Church is intensifying, getting stronger. First of all this guy is born in 1955, Alex. So we're going to have to stand with this guy for a very long time. and in this long time, of course, the church will be further destroyed, but at the same time, he will follow up in the Encyclical Fratelli Tutti,

in unifying all the Christian churches, and later on, of course, Muslim, Jews, in this whole kumbaya situation in which he will step down of his role, as Pope would be kind of minimized, he will incentivize the role of bishop of Rome. He is somebody who of course has a lot of preparation for his role. His father was a veteran in the U.S. Navy, and he is of French and Italian descent. He has been for a long time working, like I said, especially with South America, and we know what he's happening. Leo, hold on me. You got to go to break, and I already knew you had your new book out because I had to be out one day last week was a court stuff, but I watched it later to the great job.

I want to hear about your new book. I want to talk to Catholics in the fourth hour. Could you come on with me in the fourth hour and take calls from Catholics? Sure. I mean, this is not a challenge towards your faith. I mean, your faith is your faith. No, no, I understand that. But I'm saying you called Pope Francis years before it happened.

So, I mean, you're the most accurate. So I've got to go to break, but could you come on at like 215 central so we can take some calls and then you could respond to the Catholics because you obviously know like they do a lot more than I do? Absolutely. I mean, and like you said, my new book also explains why the Luciferian court made up of Illuminati, Freemason, think tanks from the business. Hold on, stay there. I got to go to break.

Do five more minutes with us, and Steve Kerr's coming. going on to respond to all this Bill Gates stuff and some new shocking studies confirming the mass death from the shots. But stay right there. We're going to break in a minute. We'll come back to you for five minutes talking about the book. Then we'll have you back on in the fourth hour. And I'm going to write your calls. So Zagami is going to be here to respond to you and answer any of your questions. You may disagree with him, may agree, but Zagami knows his stuff. We'll stay there, Leo. We're going to break. Oh, worse than Francis. I'll take his word for it. That is bad.

But is it just because it's the progression of their takeover or is because he himself is worse. This is just stunning. And then we're supposed to celebrate just because he's an American. I mean, will he say something about the war on Catholics by the Democrats? Conservative Catholics? We're going to

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Now take action at the Yellowshone Store.com. You are receiving this transmission. You are the resistance. And Leo Zagami has called what's going on in the Vatican for decades. I'm like anybody else out there. But something author is saying, this guy's worse. Tell us some about your book. When I have you back about that in the future,

you'll be on the fourth hour taking calls from Catholics, not just in the U.S., but around the world to get their take. And your response, Leo Zagami, but just in a nutshell, why are you saying this guy is worse? Because in the year 2000, when Prevost was the provincial superior in Chicago,

he protected a pedophile, Father James Ray, an Augustinian priest, that he actually protected him. and this guy had credible accusations from 1991. And although the priory was close to a Catholic elementary school, Prevost did nothing to notify the school administration of the whole thing. This guy is a protector of pedophiles. This is the worst kind of guy we could elect as Pope.

And as I explained in my latest book, the Jesuits and Pope Francis worked for months to prepare this new. woke Pope and in fact the ring of Pope Francis was actually destroyed the contrary to tradition not after the death of Pope Francis but only two days ago

because they continued to use it as a seal on documents up to two days ago so God knows what these people have done with documents that will of course surface later on and this guy who protects the pedophiles

who is some already emerged in controversy from a very controversial convent in Chicago, suddenly becomes pop and, of course, very close to Obama, the Democrats, very much opposed to Donald J. Trump. Trump is being diplomatic, of course. This is a head of state, first of all, being elected before being the head of the religion of billions of Catholics. So he has to be diplomatic. But things are going to be very different in a few.

weeks from now, actually probably starting soon after his first Wednesday speeches when he's going to start talking about immigration and his stand of immigration, which is, of course, a stand of immigration that is completely

contrary to what Tom Oman or Trump stands for. So let's see what happens. And in the meantime, of course, with my new book, Volume 12, which is the last installment of my confessions, because I wanted to bring you right up there where the pyramid culminates in the old seeing eye,

to bring you where the Jesuit general is, where the real power is. And of course, this power is the power that has decided ultimately that they wanted to put an American pope because they want to challenge Trump directly. They could have, of course, chosen African or an Asian pope, which is probably the future of the church. But in this case, the priority for this woke church seems to be fighting Trump in his administration. So Pope Francis, of course, had always very much good things to say about Prevost. He put him as titular bishop of Sufar. He received his episcopal consecration during the time Paul Francis was a pope.

and on July 13, 2019, Prevost was also appointed a member of the congregation for the clergy in Rome, so in a way preparing him also for his role. We're going to talk to you an hour.

We're going to take calls from Catholics in. But the big issue here is the leadership of Catholic Church directing Democratic Party to target traditional Catholic and conservatives in America. That tells you everything you have to know. The good news is, isn't this just waking up Catholics more than ever?

Well, it's going to wake up those people who still had the illusion that we could go back to a conservative pope to somebody like J.D. Vance wanted or those who love the traditional Latin Mass. It's never going to happen. Unfortunately, we are going further into wholeness with this new pope. It's amazing. Wow. Leo Zagami, we'll talk to you coming up in an hour. Thank you. Thank you. All right, Steve Kirsch has some of the biggest COVID tyranny news ever. And it dovetails with Bill Gates trying to rewrite history right now and say he's not the depopulation. No, it's Elon Musk and Trump. We'll be back in 60 seconds. Stay with us. Info Wars has been close to being shut down, as you know, five or six times the last year. This could be your last chance to get the great products at InfoWorStore.com.

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He's also been featured 60 Minutes and everything else you can imagine and testify before Congress. You name it. Steve Kirsch. com, Twitter, S-T-K-K-I-R-S-C-H. And it's just incredible, not just the insurance actuaries have been out for years and all the other numbers and global life expectancy dropping, particularly where the shots are rolled out or the government. databases that have come out proving all of it from New Zealand to

the United States. And then now all the big developments of RFK Jr. overall, doing a lot of really good things, but also big pushes to roll out more COVID shots. I know he's trying to block by making him actually study it. But this new study, by a very respected MIT scientist, is out.

Pfizer recipients face 37% higher risk of death than Moderna recipients. Well, we'd always heard that Moderna was stronger in the same thing as the Pfizer. Very interesting. Study of 1.47 million Florida adults by MIT scientists and surgeon general finds significantly higher all-cause cardiovascular and COVID-19 mortality after Pfizer vaccination.

So this is the Surgeon General of Florida with all the government resources coming out with this. The study titled 12-month all-cause mortality after initial COVID-19 vaccination with Pfizer bio-intech and MRNA 1273 among adults living in Florida was just uploaded to Med Rivix's pre-print server. The study was headed by MIT professor in Florida Surgeon General, and it goes on from there. So we've got a lot of documents, a lot of information, a lot of developments here with. Steve Kirsch. But wow. And then I want to budget some time in that we have left here with him. And we need to get him back again soon for longer on Bill Gates. And this attempt at a facelift, this relaunch, the lies that he's a philanthropist,

blaming Trump and Doge and saying they're going to get us all kill with new viruses, not of the labs that he's helping create, but magically from the global warming. And saying that Elon Musk is. is a billionaire murdering poor people when it's Bill Gates that's most famous for that. This is an attempt to, in the minds of people do a Jedi mine trick or gaslight and turn Elon into what he is. And then the constant threat, not just by him, but other spokespersons of the mad scientist's death cult, like Tedros, the WHO, Hotez, Fauci, that if you cut the funding, why, oh, the new virus is going to come get you. So clearly a big threat as well in branding the new virus, we know they've got on the shelves to pick from. to be the fault of Trump and must.

So big moves by some of the most hated and reviled people on Earth, Bill Gates that confuse people. I don't see it working, but it all ties together. So Steve Kirsch, thank you so much. Let's get right into this new study. Sure. So this was a study, actually, that I instigated. So it's kind of my fault that this study happened.

I found a very troubling differential mortality signal by looking at the Czech Republic data, which anybody can download that data. It's publicly available. It's record level data. And it's the first time that any country has ever exposed the record level data. And what that data showed was a differential one-year mortality, and it actually extends out more than a year.

But I saw a differential mortality between the Pfizer shot and the Moderna shot. And so I let Joe Latipo know that, there's this differential mortality, and I suggested to him that he might want to look at the Florida data. And the reason that I chose Joe is because he's the only honest health care authority in the entire world. So if anyone was going to act on this, it was Joe. And I remember you when this came out, what was it, a year ago, two years ago, you said this is the best data out of the Czech Republic. And I remember you making a big deal about this saying you were reaching out to the Surgeon General of Florida. And now, I mean, this is huge.

So thank God for the work you did on that. Yeah. And thank God that Joe actually took me up on the offer and he looked at his data. And he had, he employed a Retzf Levy, professor, MIT professor, who did an absolutely spectacular job of analyzing the data. You know, they looked at seven different parameters to match the groups. And so what they did is they said, you know, the people in Florida, there are a bunch of people in Florida who got the shots. Let's take one and a half million of those people and try to match them together.

Let's match 750,000 with 750,000 who took, you know, Pfizer 750,000 versus Moderna, 750,000. And let's try to match them down to, ideally, they live on the same block that they got Pfizer or Moderna in the same week at the same vaccination center. And basically they try to make everything look the same in terms of matching these cohorts. And to some extent, these cohorts are matched better than what you would get in a randomized trial.

So this is as good as it gets for an observational study. And there isn't an observational study in the history of epidemiology that matches on more parameters than what they matched on or that has more perfect match. This is a gold standard or platinum standard study and

of course they rigged the other studies and tests and you know, absolutely. And so you were always looking to get a database to then put it together and then because they really did just test this on the general public, now you found a state with a person of integrity so you can

go into the numbers with actually the mass trial they did on us as getting pigs. We have the FDA board, remember saying, oh, we don't know what this would do, so we just got to give it to kids to see what it does. So that, of course, just shows the lie that, quote, they tested all this. No, they tested it on the

people in live time. And now with this study that you instigated and initiated, we actually have the smoking gun. We do. Because it showed that there was a 36% differential mortality between people who got

the Pfizer shot versus people who got the Moderna shot. So if you got the Pfizer shot, you are 36% more likely to die from non-COVID reasons. Now, let me unpack that for a second because there are a bunch of things. I'm talking about non-COVID all-cause mortality. And we're talking about differential mortality. And so most people, that is going to go like over their heads and like, what are you talking about? What does this mean? And so let me break it down for you. So the differential mortality means that compared to the non-COVID all-cost mortality of Moderna, that Pfizer was 36% higher than that in a year. And there shouldn't have been those lines that you're showing on the screen, those lines

should have been identical because the groups themselves were identical. And as you can see from the graphs, they started out identically and then they diverged. Pfizer vaccine diverged, showing that the groups, in fact, were matched, but that the Pfizer group then somehow had higher mortality over time and resulting in a 36% differential between the groups. Now, what's important to realize, and it's not brought out in the paper, is that vaccines, in general, there has not been a vaccine that has ever reduced your non-disease all-cost mortality. In other words, vaccines aren't designed to make you live longer. The vaccines are only designed to take whatever risk you have from a particular disease and bring it down to ideally

zero for that disease. It's not designed to increase your lifespan. So that means that moderna, which had a, we can assume that moderna isn't increasing your lifespan. I don't know. anybody takes Moderna and is living longer. So let's give Moderna the benefit of the doubt. And let's say that Moderna doesn't increase your all-cause mortality at all. In other words, Madonna is perfectly safe. Well, let me make this point. You're the scientist, but I'm a layperson.

The reason Kennedy wants to bring placebo back that they've gotten rid of overall is because if they did this rollout and then had actually given, say, a third of the people, a placebo, we would have the real floor, but now we don't know with the Moderna under the Pfizer because there's nothing to gauge it by with the placebo. That is exactly right. I'm going to give you an honorary degree to be a scientist from that. That is exactly right.

We do not have a placebo control baseline. Because when people volunteer for these vaccination studies, they are fundamentally different. from people who do not want to be vaccinated. And it turns out that people who are unvaccinated tend to have higher mortality. And that's not because they avoided the vaccine. It's just because, in general, people who don't get vaccinated,

just don't have as much access to health care. They may be a lower socioeconomic status and so forth. But the statistics show that the unvaccinated are vastly different even for the same age than the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated. But then we have the Amish that aren't vaccinated living longer than anybody on average. Yeah. So they form a baseline, they form a baseline just in general, even though we don't have one because they don't do placebo. They do.

But without this placebo control trial, you don't have a baseline. So our best thing is let's just assume for a moment that Moderna is, is perfectly safe. That's the best case. And what that means is that when you have a 36% differential between the two vaccines, it means that Pfizer increased your baseline all-cause mortality by at least 36%. Now, that is a disaster. No vaccine is supposed to increase your non-disease all-cause mortality. It's always supposed to decrease your disease all-cause mortality. It's always supposed to decrease your your disease mortality, but it's never supposed to

increase your non-disease all-cause mortality. So this is a signal, I mean, this is a gigantic red alert, thousand alarm fire signal. Correct. Absolutely. No question about it. There should not be a difference at all between these cohorts in terms of the

non-COVID all-cosmortality. I always heard, I don't need a different base ingredients, but that Moderna and Pfizer were basically the same formula, and the Moderna had originally done it, and then Pfizer got a deal to do it. And they just weren't as strong. It was a couple of three plus shots for Moderna versus Pfizer. But do we have any idea why, at least what was given in Florida,

is so much worse than the Pfizer, I mean, than the Moderna? Yeah, so you're correct in that Moderna had, when it was rolled out, they had over three times the dose of essentially these, the genetic material, the MRI, if it was three times higher, is a little bit more than three times higher for Moderna. And so you would think that if Moderna worked, then it would provide better protection, but it should also provide more death because it's got a higher dose.

And, you know, it's the more poison you give someone, the more death you're going to get. So this was a little bit surprising that we did see in terms of a COVID mortality. We saw that Moderna was superior. In other words, Moderna is superior on the COVID mortality, and it's also superior on the non-COVID mortality. So if you're walking into a vaccination center and you're given the choice between Pfizer and Moderna, you'd be foolish.

there's no data supporting your choice of Pfizer. Any intelligent consumer would say if... But they also admit, and again, I'm just going from memory here, you're the expert, that they were, particularly Pfizer, was changing the base ingredients, and for a long time, we didn't even know what was in it. So do we have any idea? Obviously, if it's got the same MRNA, just more of it in the Moderna,

then that points towards, and I'm just, you know, deduction here, that it was one of the other ingredients in Pfizer? Could be, we don't know. It could be the SV40 promoter, which is only found in the Pfizer vaccine. Probably not, because when you look at the autopsy reports on people who got Pfizer versus people who got Moderna,

you see the same sorts of effects happening in the, in the, in the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, so pathology slides, you can see this degradation of organs, of blood vessels, and so forth, that are attacked by these so-called vaccines. And you can see the same sort of pattern, whether you got the Moderna vaccine or the Pfizer vaccine. And I know you don't like to speculate, but, I mean, this is wild. And obviously, it needs to be further investigations.

What should that be? and then, I mean, how do they even try to roll out new COVID shots with this information, period? Well, you know, they shouldn't until they get to the bottom of this. Now, it could very well be that Moderna was having manufacturing problems, and the MRNA in the vials wasn't fully intact. And so MRNA could be shooting duds, but that's probably not true because when you look at the efficacy, against COVID-19, Moderna had lower, well, so I probably shouldn't say that. Moderna had fewer deaths of COVID-19, but we don't know, in fact, that the vaccines were

protective against COVID-19. So, in fact, Moderna could be shooting duds and is effectively a placebo because the MRNA was fragmented and was not protecting against COVID and, of course, was then also not creating the antigen all over your body that Pfizer was. could very well be that Moderna was essentially shooting blanks. And would that be because I remember, Moderna was more of a startup. And so that's, I mean, I've seen.

Yeah, there's no quality control in these shots. You don't know what you're getting. This is why they have these hot lots for, for these batches. I mean, that should never happen. So the quality control is lacking. And in fact, the EMA, when they, looked at these vaccines, they said, well, you know, we looked at these

mRNA fragments and we found that they're broken 50% of the time. And this is when they were applying for approval. They may have fixed the manufacturing process since then. But things can happen in terms of the storage requirements of the particular vaccine, the particular formulations. It's unknown as to why. Sure, doesn't it degradate above 87 degrees? Oh, sure.

I mean, initially when they came out, they said, oh, it has to be kept at extremely low temperature because MRNA is extremely fragile. Bottom line, it was a giant mass experiment. It was, and it's still an ongoing mass experiment. And apparently President Trump doesn't want to stop it because he feels very proud that he was responsible for operations. Operation Warps Speed, and so he does not want these vaccines to be taken off the market because that would be a blemish on his accomplishment. And that is tragic because we are giving these vaccines to kids. And that is unfathomable.

That's right. This is a big thing Trump does. That is the big problem with him. And I've seen, and I've talked about behind the scenes in your course, you have more kind of anxiety, a lot of internal fighting, almost schizophrenic or paradoxical. where Kennedy's trying to block this, get placebo's trying to block the rollouts. Just a few months ago, you know, they were trying to bring out a new one. And he said no, but now they say they are.

What's the latest on that? Man, you know, it's like watching a ping pong match because they're looking at, oh, well, what variance should we target in the latest MRNA vaccines? And, you know, while at the same time you're talking about stopping it, well, if you're stopping it in kids, why aren't you stopping into adults the harms in the autopsy? They're clearly killing people. Vaccines should never kill people. That's the thing.

And we have the autopsy evidence. We have the histopathology. Yeah, you've laid that out all the papers and all the documents has all been confirmed accurate because you're a statistician, really, and one of the best, in my view, watching your work, that we've never seen a signal anywhere near this of hurting people. And we have the famous video that leaked of Kennedy talking to Trump a year ago. Trump's like, yeah, they're giving too much to kids, maybe not the kids.

So we see in Trump's action, okay, don't give it to kids, but it helps old people. He's still been convinced of this crap. No, you can't, you cannot give old people a vaccine which kills them. Okay, and this is what's happening. You can see it in the autopsies. And also, the BMJ published a report. It was done by the Norwegian Health Authority. Norwegian Health Authority basically investigated 100 deaths after vaccination.

And they discovered that at least 10% were likely caused by the vaccine, and up to 36% of the deaths could have been caused by the vaccine. So we knew very early, it was published in the BMG by this independent investigation. And ever since then, there has never been any country that has looked at these people who die after getting the vaccine to understand what they died from. Now, the CDC claims that they have all these thousands of cases, but they had, the CDC basically says that there have been zero deaths from the MRI vaccines. The only deaths or 10 deaths from non-MRNA vaccines, and we stop those. The CDC has seen no deaths. Look, it is very obvious. I mean, you don't have to be an expert pathologist to look at these cisopathology slides and see there's something very, very wrong here.

I've seen a number you have a 400,000 deaths caused by the shots in the U.S. alone. The estimate, based on a number of factors, I mean, there is a great study done by André Redder. He looked at 30 European countries, over 500 million in population. And he discovered what's called a vaccine dose fatality rate that at a minimum is 0.5. percent, which means that, you know, basically we killed one out of a thousand people who got the shots or, you know, one out of a thousand shots led to death. So if you shoot 660 million doses of these shots, you're going to kill 660,000 Americans from these shots. So that's what his research shows. Now, it turns out that if you impute a vaccine,

dose fatality rate based on the numbers in the Lattipo study, you get the same number. You get the 0.15%. So you take 0.15. And people don't know in big giants, totally separate studies, the number, when you start getting the exact same finding, you know you've hit the facts. Steve Kirsch, incredible. Stay there. I want to come back on about what do we do.

I mean, why does it Trump draft the Surgeon General of Florida up there instead of this woman he tried to put forward that got shot down here? stay let's talk about that when we come back you took methylene blue about 30 minutes ago are you feeling it i think i am i feel tingling fingers you're feeling the palpatine love i think i feel the palpatine love yeah yeah i feel it in my head and neck too like when i'm talking it seems like it's not really me talking it's like you're behind yourself that is what it feels like but my brain's going really fast. If I really like it, I'm going to have to get on this stuff. Here, show her Kennedy taking it. Kennedy literally gobbles it.

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Riders on the store. writers of the storm do this afterborn like a dog with love Well, the Surgeon General of Florida is a hero And, you know, Sanis hadn't been perfect, but on that front he hit a home run

And you contrast this To the lady He was a big pharma deep stater That Trump put forward as a surgeon general He got exposed by RFCK Junior's expert where it's Nicole Shanahan and others, and Laura Lumerer exposed it,

and Trump withdrew her. But it's a real ping pong match, a real tug of war going on. And when Trump gets presented with the facts enough, he does the right thing most of the time. But this has got a real blind spot when it comes to MRNA. And we see Larry Ellison there the first week Trump's back in office going,

oh, we'll cure cancer in 48 hours. I mean, MRNA, it's wonderful. and we've just seen this unmitigated disaster. We've got Bill Gates trying to reconstitute, like Soron, trying to find the ring, blaming Elon Musk saying Elon Musk is the murderer of the third world by cutting off Bill Gates' frankincinnockeying operations, cutting the money off. It's just wild. So Steve Kirsch, you being the initiator of this, and God bless you for that,

what needs to be done now in your view and what other big stories are you out there like Merlin, you know, behind the scenes getting launched? Well, I think what needs to be done at a minimum, at a minimum, the FDA should be asking Pfizer to respond to the Llanapost study. New York Times ought to be asking Pfizer, hey, you know, this looks pretty bad for you. What's going on here? How do you respond to this? And I know of one semi-mainstream journalist that has reached out to Pfizer for comment on the Lattipo study.

And the comment came back as nothing. They basically are ignoring it. They don't want to talk about it. And that alone should tell you something. So, you know, the most conservative thing is to say, is to simply go to Pfizer and say, you know, you think there's something wrong with this study that we should know about because this looks pretty incriminating. This is like, you know, you got your, you know, your finger on the trigger here and you're

causing 36% higher deaths. What's going on? It should be allowed to give an opportunity to explain that. Like, you know, explain it like you have a week to explain it to us. Otherwise, we're going to take you off the market. But if it were me, I would take it. it off the market in the meantime. I would take it off the market immediately.

Now, you said that years ago with the studies and research. It might be a good time to recap. There's so many. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's so many other smoking gun studies and databases that, and as you said, that keeps confirming these numbers. Oh, yeah. You know, we knew immediately after the shots rolled out, the VAERS system, which is the

vaccine adverse event reporting system, this is a system that tracks these the CDC says if something bad happens to, you should report it to VERS. And so that system was lining up like a Christmas tree. You know, VERS went from basically a flat line of nothing happening. And then all of a sudden, this huge blip in terms of never seen anything like this before in history in terms of people reporting deaths. Now, the medical community says, oh, well, that's because it's an EUA vaccine and they're required to report deaths happening after the vaccine is given. But no, they're required to report deaths even before that requirement for any vaccine.

So this is just unprecedented the numbers. and they have this thing called proportional reporting ratios, PRR, and that's their way of assessing safety signals, and it compares a single vaccine against the rates reported for that particular condition versus other vaccines, you know, percentage of deaths. How is the percentage of deaths in these reports compared to other vaccines? And they had 770 different safety signals that triggered. In other words, 770 different adverse events triggering safety signals.

That has never happened before in the history of the CDC. So they knew there was a fire drill. And so what the CDC did is they basically covered it up. And they said nothing to the public. They talked about myrocoditis saying, well, you know, it's rare and don't worry. But they never talked about the other 769 safety signals. And the only way we even found out about that is because somebody sent a Freedom of Information Act request to the CDC and they complied with it and they showed us the reports.

And they showed that 770 safety signals have been triggered. And yet the CDC said, didn't say a word to the American public. Now, I have never heard so many stories of vaccine deaths. I have never seen, just like you rolled the B roll ahead of this with all of the. of these athletes dying with people dying, with people at podiums speaking, and then so, you know, they're speaking like this, and suddenly they just cave over. We have never seen anything like that. And then we had the FDA in October of 2020 predicting publicly what would happen.

Why do you think they did that? Well, I think that that was a, I think they're talking about a slide presentation. Yes, it's on screen, yeah. That slide presentation. And they quickly went through that slide presentation. But what was on that slide presentation is basically causes of death from other vaccines. And so that's possible adverse events because you've seen those adverse events from other vaccines in the past. It's not necessarily saying that you're going to see these here.

But in fact, we saw everything that's on this list. And a higher statistic we've ever seen before. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like people are just turning a blind eye to all this stuff. And the thing that that's really, really troubling, Alex, is the lack of autopsies. Like, where, like, and especially where was the autopsies in the clinical trials themselves? So people died. More people died. I mean, the all-cost mortality was higher in the people who got the vaccine than the people

who got the placebo. So why didn't they investigate? with full autopsies on the people who died after vaccination. There were no autopsies for anyone who died after vaccination in the trials. So the investigator said, well, we don't think it was caused by the shots. And the FDA just like eats it up, doesn't require any validation. And then you go all about the news and say safe and effective. If you have the shot, you can't get sick, you can't spread it.

And then we have when they approved it for kids saying, we don't know what it'll do. well, we just got to put them in them to see what happens. And then meanwhile, they're still out there saying, oh, no, we tested it all. It's all been tested. And then when they do test it by giving it to people, they try to suppress and cover it up. That's right. You know, it's very, very troubling all of this stuff. There is no investigations.

Nobody's calling for autopsies. It is just horrible what is happening here. Well, Steve, you sent me a few other things, and I just want to hit them briefly here. Vaccinations or verifications of MRNA vaccine, DNA contamination in the world, and you were raising alarm early on. Now there's all these studies confirming that these things are doing that. People that don't know, you mix in DNA with these shots, and then it does all sorts of weird stuff when they're having autoimmune responses and stuff in the body,

and then all this SV-40 contamination and cancer virus, and they say it isn't, but it is. What's going on here? Well, clearly the shots have DNA contamination, and clearly the DNA contamination is above the levels that the regulator is set for being safe. And we can play games with the definition, but the point is that there is a lot of extra junk in these vials that are being injected into people's bodies that we have no clue as to what the reprimed. Percussions are in the short term or the long term.

And we have Bill Gates, when this is all rolling out, saying, we have no idea with this MRNA. We just shoot it right in the kids' veins. And then we've got the FDA meeting where they approve it going, we have no idea. And then you and I are the conspiracy terrorists for pointing this out. Yes, it's kind of an upside-down world here where we're the conspiracy theorists. We're pointing out all of the safety issues with these vaccines.

And gosh, you know, you don't have to be a critical thinker to realize that, wow, there have been no autopsies and there's no histopathology on any of these. And when they do the autopsies, which were done, there were about 80 or 85 autopsies done in Germany for people who got the shots. and those autopsies showed very clearly that the vaccines were responsible for people's deaths. And the organ damage and the vascular damage was horrendous in these people who died. Those things just don't happen spontaneously. I mean, these are like very rare events. If you saw one autopsy, you'd say, well, this is very rare. but when you then look at five autopsies in a row, you say,

we're seeing the same very rare thing in all of these autopsies. And yet, the CDC is completely blind to all this. They're not doing any autopsies. Well, we're going to have to see what Kennedy does about this, but this is really pissing people off. Finally, today the FDA announced that May 22nd, the FDA's vaccine and related biological products advisory committee will meet to publicly discuss and make recommendations of the selection

of the 2025-226 formula for COVID-19 vaccines, which it's not. So they're trying to barrel ahead of this, and I see Kennedy trying to shoot it down. This is crazy. It is. It's insane. This is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. That's essentially what they're doing. They're saying, hey, what's the best deck chair arrangement for us while this ship is sinking?

People are dying from these ships. shots, there is, there's no doubt about it. I've seen, never seen anything like this in my lifetime. And I think neither of you. And it's, it's just so, so troubling. And it's only happening to the vaccinated. You know, I have a friend who had about 15 people who died unexpectedly that he knows. And before the shots rolled out, he'd like no one person in his life that died unexpectedly. After the vaccines rolled out, he had 17 of his friends die unexpectedly, and all of them were from the vaccine. And four of them died on the same day that they got the shots, and three of the four were under 30. This is statistically impossible if the shots are helping people. And in nursing homes,

like Apple Valley Village nursing home. I got a report from someone who worked there saying that, hey, before they rolled out the shots, they had no COVID deaths in their nursing home at all. They had 27 COVID cases, no COVID deaths. After they rolled out the shots, they had 90 COVID cases. Then this is three weeks after the shot. They had 90 COVID cases and 30 deaths.

So the death rate went up from zero out of 27. and it went up to 30 out of 90 COVID cases. That stuff just doesn't happen. You don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind's blown, and you can see this is mass. Oh, no. Dr. Kurt. Oh, no.

Steve Kirsch, thank you so much for being with us. Please keep giving us updates, and God bless you. Thank you. The Surgeon General doctor there in Florida is a hero, and these scientists doing the research are. This is so dangerous, folks. And Big Pharma, when you expose this, comes after you, but there's too many of us for them to get us all.

Since we mentioned it, here's a clip of Bill Gates, and saying, we have no idea what it is. We just shoot it right in the kids' vein. And then here's the FDA board right before they voted to make it recommended for kids saying, we have no idea what it does. We've got to give people to find out while they tell you it's safe and affected and tested, here it is.

Is there something to worry about with medicines? That is, might some of them have side effects? Do we need safety testing? I mean, we're taking things that are, you know, genetically modified organisms, and we're injecting them in the little kid's arms. We just shoot them right into the vein. And I think what explains me here is that it's a very sort of personal choice.

If I had a child who had, who was a transplant recipient, I would really want to be able to use a vaccine like this. And there are certainly kids who probably should be vaccinated. The question of how broadly can use it, though, I think is a substantial one. And I know it's not our question, and I know we're kind of punted. that to ACIP. But I do think that it's a relatively close call. And as Dr. Levy just said, as Dr. Dan said, it really is going to be a question of what

the prevailing conditions are. But we're never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it. That's just the way it goes. That's how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines like the rotavirus vaccine. And I do think that we are going to, I do think we should vote to approve it. Which they did. So we're going to find out if it hurts you by giving it to you. And wow, it really hurts you.

The worst ever. All right, Dr. Elliott's with us for 15 minutes the next hour. Then Leo Zagami's coming back on about the new pope. He says it's bad. Worse than Francis as a globalist. They picked an America to counter Trump. Trump's trying to be friendly. I want to talk to Catholics around the world,

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Then I want to get into all these countries lining up, capitulating to the U.S. It's really working. But first, China, with its trillions of U.S. dollars holdings, it is in free fall. We'll get into all of that. riots all over it, total collapse. I mean, this is huge, but they're threatening to dump all their U.S. treasuries. Can they do that?

What would happen if they did that? Can you address that first, economist, Dr. Kirk Elliott? They could do that, Alex, and they are. So they have, I think about $800 billion, almost a trillion dollars of U.S. treasuries left. And if you look at a chart of the U.S. dollar, it's in, free fall, right? So why is it in free fall? Because you've got some big player that's not just investors like you and me that are dumping it like yesterday's trash. So, so who is this big player?

It looks like it's China, right? So, so why are they doing it? Because like you and I would do, let's just say we had a financial pickle and we sit down at the table with our spouse. It's like, Well, we don't, we have way too many bills and we don't have enough money coming in. So let's go find another job and let's slash our expenses, right? And if those two things don't work, we go to Plan B and we have a garage sale, right? And we sell everything that we have that's of value. And this is basically what China is doing, right? They're dumping their U.S. treasuries because they have them.

What are they getting in return? They're getting cash. When they sell the U.S. treasuries, they're getting cash in return. And what are they doing with that cash? They've been buying gold, right, by the mountains of gold, right? So this is why gold's been going up. And you look at what the tariff impacts are having with China. It's extreme, Alex.

And this is where Trump is winning so big, absolutely massively big, because Xi Jinping is surrounded. He's cornered. He has no way out. And he's forced now to sell U.S. treasuries to make ends meet. I mean, just the news from yesterday is six of the largest banks in China. They're all state-owned banks, lost a billion dollars in revenues the very first quarter of this year, a billion. And I also had that. There's just too much to cover.

We have at least 40 Chinese banks going belly up in the last three days. Yeah, in the last three days, let alone the six biggest ones losing a billion dollars. So what do you think is going to happen to these big banks? these 40 banks that are going under when tariffs actually try to even have more of an impact. Because you realize the first ship, cargo ship, just came into Long Beachport two days ago post-Trump tariffs. So Bloomberg did this article about it, and they're saying, oh, this is terrible. There's $530 million or something of products on this ship. And over $400 million was tariffs.

So you've got 530 plus 400 and something. And Bloomberg is saying this is going to be devastating for Americans. Everything just doubled in price. It's like, no, not everything, right? The stuff from China absolutely did. Which, Alex, this is Trump's point. And this is why he's winning this war. There was other stuff on that ship from other countries.

And as you just said, you know, other countries, 75 of them have capitulated after Liberation Day called Trump and said, hey Trump, we want to be able to sell the U.S. consumers. Let's negotiate on this tariff stuff, right? So they did. The other countries whose products run that chip only had $7 million worth of tariffs. That's like nothing. That's like absolutely nothing. It's a drop in the bucket. So what Trump is saying to the world, it's like, you don't want to feed the beast? You don't, you're complaining about stuff from China being so expensive. Well, then don't buy Chinese things. There's plenty of other countries.

I mean, I agree, but I mean, right now, we're winning royal flush. My issue is China could completely collapse, though they may invade Taiwan as a political cover, or the military may remove Xi Jinping, but we talked about this six months ago, before Trump even got in. This would weaken the dollar at first push it down really far. We won't lose the world reserve currency. Still the biggest military, still the biggest market. Right. But short term, that'll make people want to buy American goods and produce here because the dollar's low.

And then when we completely win it, it will skyrocket. way back up to the top. That's how this is going to work. So people don't panic while we go through this. We're going to win. And so far, the UK, India, all of them started with Vietnam. As you said, it's almost 80 countries have now signed on and are not screwing us anymore. We're winning the global realignment.

But I'm just concerned because I was reading there's trillions total in Asian countries. And it looks like a bunch of them are dumping U.S. dollars. I don't know. And as you said, China's having to do it just to get money. but I'm just concerned about how bad this could get and how far I could go down. Well, I think it could go down a lot. I'm not going to lie, right? So as much as it's come down, it's a free fall.

It hit this critical support level. The U.S. dollar did the end of last week. And if it went below that, it could go down a lot farther. And we talked about this, right? We talked about this the last time we did a show how we were at that. And look at this chart. There's a line on the bottom of there. That's the critical support level.

And it tanked even farther, just like we said that it would. Now, this is because other countries are really trying to stick it to America. They don't like what Trump is doing. However, you know what does like what Trump is doing? The stock market's starting to like it. People around the other, you know, just people, not governments, but people are starting to realize what Trump is doing is a leveling of the playing. No, it is. Stay right there. Back in two minutes.

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I try to be completely honest. And you've been coming on for almost two years. You predicted all this. You laid it out exactly where gold will be today, basically. It's a little bit higher than what you said. But I look at all this. As Trump said and Lutnik said, we have all. the cards. Still the world reserve currency,

biggest best military, biggest market. Now all these countries are coming to us other than Russia and China and North Korea and Iran. Trump's winning. It's a political realignment, everything, except the world reserve currency. Could they drive it down so much?

It panics people to leave it, but China's already being defeated and destroyed by this. And then we win, but it's a periodic victory. I don't see that happening. I see the dollar going back up. pretty quickly, you know, in the scheme of things, and of course, some lowering, as you predicted, would be good. But I'm just wondering what the ramifications could be if China and others completely dump the dollar, which they're doing.

Well, the ramifications in the short term, and we're talking short, short term, I think could be pretty extreme, right? Because it's going to impact the bond market. You've already got Trump and Powell just going at it. I mean, Trump had the quote of the day yesterday. He really did when he said Powell was a fool, right, for not lowering interest rates and stimulating the economy. But he still likes him. That was a great quote, right? But why is he a fool? Because Trump knows that the rest of the world is against us.

They are dumping U.S. treasuries. And the rest of the world is lowering the EU, China, are lowering it, restraints. Yeah, and we're the only one that's not. So the fact that the dollar is coming down is not all Trump's fault. See, this is case and point that the Fed is becoming more and more irrelevant that it's not a political election. It's actually publicly siding against America. Yeah, absolutely. And so when they say that they're independent and they're apolitical, that's not true.

You know, they did almost everything Biden wanted them to do, Powell did, and now he's opposing. almost everything that Trump wants to do. And all that Trump is saying, Alex, is lower interest rates. It'll stimulate the economy. Yes, that'll bring more inflation. But when you stimulate the economy, there's going to be more jobs, more people are working. Wages will keep up with the inflation. Trump's plan is way better than Powell's, which appears to be a shot in the gut of the U.S.

economy. Do you want inflation with jobs and rising wages? Or do you want stagflation, which is what Powell's offering? That's what he's offering. It's not what he's offering. It's what he's bringing, right? And so. And then they want to blame if it collapses on Trump.

It's terrorism. It's economic terrorism. Yeah, it is. I think that it is. And so Trump is going to win this thing. But the ramifications right now are I think the dollar is going to collapse. This is going to impact the stock market. It'll impact the bond market.

It's going to impact people. Media is going to be all over Trump on this one, blaming him. but it's not his fault. It's Biden's fault. It's former president's fault who have exported so many jobs overseas, and it's painful to go through the process. And what is it going to do to gold with all the economic factors, gold and silver? Well, gold and silver go up during times of turbulence and chaos and turmoil.

I mean, a lot, especially during times inflation. And if the dollar's worthless, that means translate it'll take more up to buy gold. Correct. So gold and silver are not just an inflationary hedge, you know, an insurance policy against a collapse in currency, which is what we have. It's outpacing the collapse of the currency because it's like this flight for quality. When people don't know what else to do because the foundations around us are roting, they're going into gold and silver. This is why we've been shouting it from the rooftops for a long time. That's right. Stay there. I want to come back in 60 seconds. This is so important. He just predicted the collapse the dollar, but not forever. Ladies and gentlemen, Ultimate Seymoss has been by far and away our best selling product on the Alexjones store.com when we launched it some months ago. Now, we've had a hard time keeping the gummies in stock, so we formulated the capsules while we wait on more gummies to come in. Now, Irish Seamoss is something that's known to be incredible for your body because of the natural iodine that exists in. And it's not just any iodine.

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You get some good information just from the statistics and numbers, but you have to make the decision yourself with economists and experts that have the best track records of accuracy. And you've been listening to Dr. Elliot for almost two years here on the show. basically called everything exactly right, including when they would pause rates, when they would increase rates, just dead on. And he kept explaining, we have all the cards, but they could crash the dollar, and they could use that to panic people, but in the end, with the market fundamentals, it'll just come back to us. But he said it's guarantee he's going to go down some.

Well, it's gone down more than that. And if you just joined us, Dr. Elliott, just said, I think we're going to see a crash of the dollar. What does that mean? I guess we've got ahead of this for people and then how long until it goes back up and again we still have the biggest military we're the biggest market

China is admittedly just reeling any pain we felt is nothing compared to this the American people don't need to be a panicking as Trump said because again all everybody India UK they are all joining us because they can look at the statistics but some of the bigger

globalists and operatives and groups, they're trying to kill the dollar, they're trying to blame Trump, the private Federal Reserve won't lower interest rates for us, but China just did it, EU just did it, in their war with us, but there's the private Federal Reserve that needs to be repealed, needs to be abolished when you go back to, you know, Congress controlling the monetary system and the people. But man, this is economic warfare, economic terrorism. Dr. Elliott, so just recap, it's got caught by the break. Specifically, you say a dollar collapse. What does that mean? What number do you think it'll go to? What's the time frame? I mean, I think that it could come down another 15 to 20 percent in pretty short order. And what's going to cause it to go up?

What will cause the dollar to go back up is when the rest of the world realizes it is a better option than the other currencies out there. Right? And so what you have to do to do that is have a propensity for us to be able to pay off our debt, which is what's happening. For example, the ship that came in to Long Beach Harbor, $413 million for the tariffs on it. And Bloomberg blames Trump that Americans are going to be hurt. If I were Trump, I would say, thank you, Xi Jinping, for the $413 million of tariff money that we're going to be used to pay down our debt. right so so because he won't capitulate so as the rest of the world now starts to see that trump's policies are working we're getting out of debt our balance of trade is is getting better

we're becoming a stronger nation economically and financially then the dollar will will increase now this could happen by the end of this year maybe the fourth quarter of next but i think we could be in for a little stretch now realize this has nothing to do with trump this has everything to do with prior presidential administrations being detrimental to America, putting together bilateral and multilateral trade agreements that were awful for us like NAFTA and other things, exporting our jobs. The pain of actually getting back to normalcy is what we're going to. And let me add this point. And I can elaborate on it.

They admittedly had us with Moody's and the rating agencies about to collapse us. They were going to bring them all in, blame her that put neocons in after as the savior, and bring in the global reset and we're no longer the superpower and we've been sold out. And so then we would have no real industry, huge energy prices, the whole clad and pivot thing, by design, social engineering, wokeism goes into high gear, demoralization. That was a plan. Trump is desperately trying to reverse that, doing a great job overall. And so really it's an information war with the public to not panic when we go through this because we are winning.

But this was the only course. and again, Mexico and other countries to do super devaluations we're not doing that. It's a moderate one to then bring the jobs industry back for national security sovereignty, just the decency of having a job, all of these issues.

And so this had to be done and it's being done and we are winning in reality, but are we winning in the hearts and minds? Can you speak to that and let's do a pitch for gold and silver? you're the top silver broker in the country because that's what you pitch you also have gold you have the highest ratings you have the best prices you're the place to go to dr kirk elliott um we're not winning the hearts and minds of people quite yet in my opinion um because we still need a little bit more time now Alex everyone knows it's been watching you you've lost a lot of weight right you've done really good you're working out you're hitting it hard you're watching your diet you've lost what 65 pounds something like that yes but so the first two

weeks when you were hitting the gym hard, you're not really seeing any results. All you're feeling is, I can't move. I feel terrible. This is where we are, I think, in the economy right now is we're starting to get healthier. We're starting to get better. We're feeling the initial pain. And it's like the metabolism has to kick in. And then we're going to see massive results. Now that just takes a little bit of time. It just does. There's a lag effect and an impact effect from when you have policy to when you see the fruit on the fruit. And you don't get freedom with instant ratification, but it's all market fundamentals. That's why, that's how you called it all. I mean, it's a fact. If we just don't panic, we win. Yeah, we can't panic. We have to be patient. And I think by the fourth quarter of this year,

the first quarter of next year, all of Trump's policies are going to be kicking on all cylinders, and we're going to feel it. Right. So in the meantime, people are starting to wake up. They're starting to see the difference. So we're starting to notice, well, boy, some of these things don't make sense. I don't know if the stock market's going to be healthy for a while. And you're starting to see central banks around the world, sovereign governments around the world, individuals going into things like gold and silver that are tangible that are real. We're also seeing now cryptocurrency starting to go up. To me, this is where you start to see the main fundamental forces. What does crypto and gold going up together mean? It means that people want to get out of

the system. They don't trust the government anymore. They're looking for options. which tells me America is starting to really wake up, Alex. Well, I only steer people into what I, from my own research, my own experience is the best. And people that actually listen to us have the results. But I didn't, I got out of gold and silver for 13, 14 years because it wasn't the market time for me. I got back in a little before two years ago. Went out got the best guy. He was the best economist on record on this.

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And he still lived in Italy 10 years ago. And he predicted Francis, the first Jesuit pope, years ago. where it happened. He'd expose how they used pedophile rings to blackmail, the church to fully take over more of it. And we were hoping they'd get a real Catholic or traditionalist in there, but that did not happen. Reportedly,

this guy, according to Zagami, is worse than Francis, because this is a continuation of the deepening takeover that's happening. So we got Dorothy, Paul, Gary, Lorene, Linda, Nick, Annie, Frank, Julie, Jake. We're getting to all of you, your statements, your opinions,

your view on the new pub, and you can ask questions if you want of Leo Zagami. He's here to ride shotgun with us. We're going to go to all of you here just a moment, but here is the new Pope being announced. He is wearing the Mazeta in the stole, Pope Leo the 14th, the former Cardinal Robert Crevo, of Chicago in the United States. A scene very reminiscent of Pope St. John Paul, the second when he came out on the loja on an evening similar to this in 1978. feel the emotion in the crowd. They barely know him, but they know who he is.

All right. Leo Zagami, bestselling author, researcher, Leo Zagami.com is our expert here riding shotgun with us. Leo, since you were on an hour ago, I know you've done more research on this guy covering up pedofal rings and things. That's even mainstream news. As that fits into the whole paradigm, we've seen,

anything else you've learned about the new pubs since then? Then we're going to go to these callers. Yes. He's been quite open against the Trump immigration policies and criticizing J.D. Vance, as you know, J.D. Vance had a bit of a controversy with Pope Francis. And in February of this year, on his media, in his social media, the present Pope launched an attack against the immigration policies of the current administration. And this was right at the time when he was elevated as Cardinal. on February 6th, 2025, that means that he couldn't have participated if before entering the hospital, Pope Francis, didn't do that last move. So this was very well orchestrated. He apparently was groomed by Pope Francis into this position. And if you want, we can later talk about that. But in any case, he's no friend of the Trump administration. He has been very outspoken about his criticizing the immigration policies, particularly the ones associated with Trump and J.D. Vance.

So they knew Francis was about to die. They accelerated him into Cardinal and just brought him right in. Yes, because this is really about challenging Donald J. Trump. And that's why Trump, prior to this, did that meme, which looked like a joke. But in reality, it was a clear message to a conclave, which of course, with 80% of progressives, was about to elect somebody else that will bring the church closer and closer to communist China. Because, of course, this Pope is also a supporter of the Vatican China deal. Wow. So worse than Francis, that is bad in your view. We'll see what Catholic callers think. Dorothy in Texas, you're our first caller. Thank you for calling. Welcome to the broadcast.

Thank you. I sadly 100% have to agree with Leo Zagami you have on right now. This guy is bad news. The first thing I thought of when they said he's American is he's going to march right into the White House and proclaim that, you know, we need that money back. for all those immigrants and saving, you know, all the little pet projects that the globalists have. They're just trying to put the patina of Christianity in Christ over all the globalist policies just like Francis. And I love how Vatican won't take any illegal aliens in, but says every Western country must take them. And the J.D. Vance isn't a, you know, a good Christian or Catholic because he said, we've got to take care of our own citizens first. I mean, the Vatican is so hypocritical on this, Dorothy. Well, it's not just hypocritical. It's corruption.

Like, there's lots of questions about the validity of Francis in the first place. I mean, it's hard for a Catholic to really step outside and say, can a person who espouses non-Catholic beliefs and actions and doctrines be Pope? And so it's hard, I hope that maybe this guy will wake up people, the regular Catholics in the pews to say, wait a second, he might call himself Pope, but what is he advocating? What is he teaching? Can he really be Pope if he's not even Catholic? I mean, that's kind of the point I'm at right now, you know? And so it's fitting to me, took the name Leo the 14th, because Leo the 13th was a very conservative Pope who actually brought us to St. Michael's prayer because he had a vision of Satan infiltrating the church. So I think that's a big like, hello guys. We need to stand up as Catholics who really know our faith and say, hey, you can call yourself Pope. You can, you know, wear all the beautiful vestments and, you know, do the incense thing. But what are you actually teaching? Is it in line with Jesus himself? Is it in line with the tradition of the real magisterium?

Powerfully said, Dorothy, I want you to have a final comment a moment, but Leo, I'm going from my I've interviewed probably 50 times over the years, including in Rome. Aren't you named after the Pope she just talked about? Yes, the new name is Pope Leo. But Pope Leo de 13th, like she said, was a staunch opponent of the Jesuit increased relativism and also Freemasonry. He actually supported publications like the one of Monsignor George Francis Dillon, which was, and also he declared Warren Freemasoning with an encyclical. called Humanum Genus and also Inimica Vis, one from 1892 and the other one from 1884.

So he was no friend of the globalists and the Freemasons who took over the Vatican with Vatican 2 in the first part of the 1960s. It's the direct opposite. So it's a little bit like the Jesuits. They call themselves the Society of Jesus, but they are the first enemies of Jesus. So it's appropriation, which is something really. said, especially for me, because I can't change my name. This guy changed it and took over a name that up until yesterday was a respectable Catholic name. All right. Anything else, Dorothy? Oh, she's gone. Boom. I wanted her to finish up. Let's go to Paul in Florida. We're taking a call

from Catholics on the new Pope. Paul, thanks for calling. Go ahead. Hey, thank you. Alex and Mr. Zagami. Trump will prevail. Common sense. Give a time. I'll expose it all. What is your view of this guy? Do you agree with Leo that he's worse than the last pope or do you think he's good? Leo's the expert. He knows it better than me. So let it play out. Trump will expose it. Trump will prevail. All right, thank you.

Let's go to Gary in Texas. Go ahead, Gary. Welcome. Hello. Yes, sir, go ahead. In the evening? All right. Hey, I just wanted to say on the new Pope and everything, it's a little scary. Just teach him about it. everything that, you know, the expert's saying here, he knows everything.

It just sounds, I don't know, it's a little terrifying to think of, but my question to him would be, what exactly do you think we should do, like, as Catholics and things like that? What's the next steps for us? Like, what do we do? Okay, thank you for this question, which I think is very appropriate at this time for all Catholics. I was born Catholic, I was raised Catholic, and I'm still a nominee Catholic, because, of course, it's part of our DNA, and as Catholics, if you are born in a Catholic environment, you stay a Catholic all your life.

However, I am a pre-consularity Catholic, which means I don't believe in anything that came out of Vatican, too. And with this new Pope, all those, you know, we had a hundred priests going to Mother Maralago, exercising the place, blessing the place, bringing in homage to Donald J. Trump an image of the Holy Roman. Mary. Everybody was hoping for something different. I know that even J.D. Vance, who of course is a relatively new Catholic, who became Catholic in August 2019,

hoped for a change towards conservatism again and re-embracing maybe the Latin mass and so on. But that's impossible. The system is rigged. So people like, of course, the former Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano and others will at this point

suggest for a schism. And there will be those forces, those conservative forces within the Catholic Church that will suggest a schism. And of course, if we are no longer, it's longer possible to relate to a Pope like this and to a church that for the last 12 years has seen empty churches, empty seminaries, it's a little bit like the woke military that hexed to con. Now it's being repopulated. But during the president of Joe Biden, It was going the other way. So this church is going further into walkism.

I don't think that we will find any solution. I mean, in April 2025, this present Pope retweeted a post highlighting the thought of auxiliary bishop Evelio Maviyarb for the condemnation of the deportation of a US resident questioning. And he said this, and I quote him, do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed? can you stay quiet? So this means that people like Tom Homan, who is a friend and who is a Catholic, will of course be attacked and will find themselves in a very awkward position, as well as those hundred priests that went to Maralago, those traditional priests, is about time to really think about the future of us as Catholics and see if it's maybe the time for

a schism that will lead us away from this heresy, which is now become the Church of Rome. Has anything ever happened in the almost 2,000 years history of the Catholic Church liked us? No, we have never been at this level. It kind of has been an increase, you see. After the Second Vatican Council, there was still John Paul II and Joseph Ratzinger, who kind of resisted the Jesuit takeover, as I explained in my latest book. And they tried to even commission the Jesuit order, but they didn't work out. and eventually with the first Jesuit Pope, the faith of the church was sealed.

And nowadays, of course, this is a product of it. And you see, the further we go, the worse is going to be. I mean, the problem here is also being that America has not really invested in the Catholic Church, as much of it was China is investing. The church is for sale, sadly. And these days, the Chinese Communist Party and their Catholic Patriotic Association, has literally taken over the church by giving you. I mean, we're back to Jesus in the synagogue beating them

because the money changers had taken it over. It's the same thing. The money is taking it over. Yes, the money is, I mean, when you're talking about $2 billion or less, about 1.7, 1.6 every year from the Chinese Communist Party to the Vatican, that is buying the. And then the person who facilitated all this was Teodor McCarvick with Nancy Pelosi, who is a fifth class, just with agents.

here we are talking about people who are facilitated and who of course the other the mercetic died in early april was one of the worst pedophiles the church ever seen and pedophilia is running rampant still in the seminaries and from the example that this guy gave when he was provincial superior in chicago we cannot expect any pedophiles to be exposed or kicked out of the chair and i want to recap that but gary anything else uh yeah one other thing. That was my question for him, but for you, Alex Jones, I wanted to ask, how we talk about the globalists like to put things in our faces and, like, put their plans out and everything. One thing that I had a friend bring up to my attention of recently, the band Slayer, they have a song

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Leo Zagami, Vatican expert, is our guest. We have a global political realignment. Trump is winning on so many fronts. The culture war, securing the border, the trade war, trying to stop the physical wars, but we're not going to win them all. And this is sad for Catholics and sad for the whole world that this new Pope is there. I think that's what this comes down. Leo, I want to go back to the loaded phone lines here,

But just in general, how would you describe the world political realignment right now? And what are your current numbers? How would you predict Trump's going to do? Well, Trump is fighting basically the Jesuit-led New World Order. I mean, Shanghai, China, globalism. It was built up by the Jesuits. So there is historical evidence, which I outlined in my latest book about it. It's not just a conspiracy.

Well, let's get refutable. I mean, they set up the whole deal, set up the trade routes 500 years ago with Portugal and the maps, the rudders they had that nobody else had, and they then help put Mount Satan into power. Yeah, and in Shanghai, actually, the French poured money for the Jesuits to establish Shanghai as a hub, even for scientific research and stuff. And today, the Jesuit headquarters in Shanghai is next to the cyber unit that is one of the most fierce one of the Chinese intelligence that are regularly attacking. Our facilities, their hackers are based there next to the Jesuit headquarters. So this is really what they are doing behind the scenes. In regard to this specific person, Prevost, our Pope now as Leo 14th, he has shown special concern for Venezuelan migrants, including the gangs. So imagine what kind of person is this, especially because in the last few years,

a lot of Venezuelans have been forced to go to Peru where he was in charge there and so he seems to have a special consent for that. Well, I mean, yeah, you read his writings. It's almost like he writes the Democrat talking points. Absolutely.

But the Democrat talking points are the points of the Jesuit order because they all come from Ford and Georgetown from all the secret societies that are in there. By the way, it came out behind the scenes with Bloomberg and the Democrats, the DOJ, quarterbacking the lawsuits against me is Georgetown. That's come out in the news.

It was their idea. In Georgetown, you have two secret societies. One is the Fordham Club, and then there is another one. And they both offered membership to Donald J. Trump during his time there. He studied there for two years, and he refused to become loyal to the Jesuit establishment there. So that really demonstrates how genuine is Trump, but also demonstrates how you can resist their brainwashing if you have a strong character.

there. I mean, even myself, I studied with the Jesuits, and I managed to come out a good person. This is me next to the professor there with the... So, I mean, not everybody who has studied with the Jesuits become a Jesuit agent, but almost 90% of them become Jesuit agents, because their methods of teachings are so insidious, so pervasive. They literally brainwash you, and Trump resisted. And actually, in my new book, I showed testimony, people who say they are angered with Trump because he didn't embrace the Jesuit values while he

was there at Fordham studying philosophy and theology. I mean, I think that we have really with Donald Trump a unique possibility of resisting this Jesuit-led new war door. Absolutely. We've got to go back to calls for people that don't know. And they always hear about the Jesuits and Jesuits. Hillary Newsomel said they follow the Jesuit system, modern communism, all of it. and it's a 500-year-old intelligence agency that always wanted to get control of Catholicism

and finally pretty much has. And so people don't know, hospital comes from, you know, 800 years ago, a order that created medical stuff in Jerusalem out of France. So the oldest intelligence agencies aren't called intelligence agencies. And so the model of intelligence agencies, Hitler, model the SS after the Jesuits. The first model, we all know, 2007, came out of Queen Elizabeth I, and John D, who were doing counterintelligence against the Jesuits who wanted to kill her. The Jesuits were behind Guy Fawkes. The Jesuits were behind all this.

And no wonder that at one point, though, the Jesuits were actually in support of 1776. That's why we have the Carroll family, for example, involved with two founding fathers and also the first American. American bishop who was a former Jesuit. So the Jesuits also had an enemy at the time, which was Protestant England. That's no longer the case. We saw King Charles visiting

Pope Francis. We saw now this new reality of unifying the whole of Christianity under the Vatican. You've got to come back. It's so important to stay there. Linda, thanks for holding in Denver. You're on the air. Leo Zagami. Go ahead.

Yes, it's hard for me to know where to start. I want to first quickly say, I'm a 77-year-old, traditional stay-at-home Catholic, because a bunch of investigation I had to do when over a period of 10 years, my children were being taught different than I was taught, my mother was taught, my grandmother was taught, and that started me looking and researching, because I care about the truth like you, Alex. And trying to boil it down to the most important points, but you can call me later, because I can back up everything I'm saying.

Of course, I started homeschooling after my investigation. Are you familiar? I've been willing to call for some time. Are you familiar with the permanent instruction of the Alta Van Dita? No, but Leo, maybe. What is it? I'm going to tell you what it is. It's almost the three-century-long plan of the Masons to number one,

infiltrate and destroy the Catholic Church from within so that they then could take over the individual nations and have their global government. Well, they succeeded in taking over the Catholic Church at Vatican 2, 1962 to 65. Three particular Masons, but there were others as well, hijacked the council and implemented falsehoods. They had no authority to do. Well, there's certainly been a big fight between Masons and the Catholic Church and Leo's an expert on that. And of course you had Adam Vizob who was a Jesuit but also Jewish

who then set up the Illuminati. I would like to add something here because the Jesuits now there is new evidence that actually is being found by a credible Masonic archivist to still work today for this research. That in the 17th

the Jesuits, the Jesuits were in a lodge called the Lodge of St. Edward. And so the Jesuits also during the suppression, because there was a period in which they were kicked out of France, Portugal, and then eventually also the Vatican kicked them out in 1773. During the suppression, they became particularly active in Freemasonry. But this new research is demonstrating that they are involved with the high degrees that we call the ancient and accepted Scottish right today, which is the most influential Masonic right in the United States of America. That's why stating that the Freemasons took over the Catholic Church is only partially true. Because during Vatican, too, we saw the symbiosis, the coming together of the Jesuits and the Freemasons. Sure, sure. We have a lot of calls to get to. I want to give people's take on this current pub.

We'll have you back, Leo, and have a whole discussion about the Masons because, again, it's like people saying Jews run everything or Catholics for everything. They're evil and good always. going to different fissures and things, and then you have George Washington that's a Mason, and then you've got all this others. And then I know you've been a Mason previously and discover what's going on. And so I see it as these subgroups, these ultra groups, use any organization or group to get into. So in my research, saying it's one group, and I'm not an apology to the masons or the Jesuits or some of the Jewish mafia groups, but my point is when you study them at the top,

it's the same leaders of all of those key groups. Is that not accurate, Leo? That's accurate. In fact, in my new book, I called them the Luciferian Court. I mean, Ingolstadt, where the Jesuits had founded their stronghold against Protestantists, became then the place where Adam Vashab grow up his order, which initially was presented as being anti-Jesuit. But in reality, married the whole of Jesuitism and copied me also in a very accurate way their constitutions. and eventually a guy who was the left-hand man of Bishop came out of the order, accusing him of being in reality working for the Jesuits. The Jesuits are in my book the one that control the Freemasons, the Illuminati, the think tanks,

and I have evidence even in the foundation of the Club Bilderberg. But let's explain that. It's just like the CIA fund of the anti-war movement to create the leftist movement. And then corporate media says, oh no, they were sabotizing. the anti-war, no, they were creating it to create that schism and that clash. And George Washington in his letters on the Illuminati and the French Revolution explained that our revolution was different from theirs and explained that there were these different groups manipulating within it.

And so then it was basically what you're saying, and other history shows that, the Jesuits were trying to create this big fight between masonry and the Catholic Church so that the Jesuits could come in and pose like the saviors of it. Well, they were actually infiltrating and taking over a lot of masonry, and then to create that clash, and then to energize people to join the masons, that were anti-Catholic, to then control both sides. Well said. I can't have anything to add to that.

You described it perfectly. I mean, at one point, the Jesuit unleashed a guy like Leo Taxil, who started to tell all kinds of extraordinary tales on free masons and what was going on. And even the Pope believed in what he was saying. And then after 12 years, he said, I just made everything up, putting in a very bad situation, the Freemasons who even believe in is stalled, as well as the Catholic Church. And all this was because the Jesuits wanted to push their own narrative against that conservative pope that had the name Leo the 13th. So they will create a big crisis to pose as the savers.

Yes. Just like we know what I said 25 years ago, the CIA Mossad and all them on record, U.S.A. funding all the al-Qaeda, ISIS, letting them in, doing it all to then take our rights away, countering them, then they give them control of Turkey, I mean, with Turkey of Syria and of Afghanistan, and it goes back to Napoleon, who was converted to Islam, all of it. I mean, it's just all, it's a satanic order manipulating all the groups against each other. And that's why the average Mason hears this, it says, that's not what we do. The average Catholic hears this, goes, that's not who we are.

The average Jew here's this, says, that's not who we are. and you see the average, and now the Protestants are Christian Zionists, and it's all a big giant thing that Albert Pike talked about creating this huge conflagration. Incredible discussion. We've got to go to more calls, though. Let's go to Nick in Florida. Thanks for holding her on the air. Hey, Alex.

This guy's obviously part of the greedy homo clique that is allied with the New World Order. The last pope was a Freemason, the communist from Argentina. He basically had it in his DNA. and he disappointed this guy at Cardinal all of five minutes ago. And he's from Chicago. And we call this the passion of the church. In the end-time era, which we may be in, I'm not sure. The church has to be betrayed just like Jesus Christ was portrayed

because the church is the bride of Christ. And Archbishop Begano is the man who should be Pope. He is the one. Oh, I got to tell you, if he was the Pope, I'd probably become a cat. He is so smart and so dead on. He's a saint. He's going to be a saint in the future. And the people, the problem is we don't have a Catholic out of film.

We are too timid. I mean, there's a guy, Dr. Taylor Marshall, who's a text. He may want to have him on. He's the closest thing we got to you. But we just, we won't call it for how it is. I mean, these people are not Catholic. What they are is their Freemasons and communists to get recruited because they're homosexuals. They come from, you know, broken home sometimes or fatherless, and they get groomed,

and they get into the homo-prince lifestyle where they've got a bunch of money and, you know, private chauffeur and stuff, and they're not Catholic or Christian at all. They're just mercenary. Powerful points. Anything else, Nick? Leo Zagami's 100% right. I'm also a precondialialian Catholic. See, there's something called the St.

Gallin Mafia, which has started in... Yeah. Which I dedicated a whole chapter on that. And there is new information. And by the way, Taylor Marshall, Dr. Taylor Marshall, cited my own information on his book, which I like very much, and I cited myself. But I also had a new information to my new book,

to his own information. Unfortunately, I really didn't understand why Taylor Marshall thought we could still have a Protestant, sorry, a conservative pope that will lead a war against this progressive. in the church is literally impossible at the moment to save the Catholic Church. And of course, he is going to unify everybody, even the Protestants. We got to jump.

I can talk all day about this. It's very interesting. Annie in California, you're on the air. Thanks for holding and calling. Go ahead. Yeah, hi. Hi, Leo. I watch your podcast with your wife.

You guys are the most adorable couple. And it's because of people like you. and Father Rippinger and Cardinal Vichard, I can't pronounce his name, that there's a schism because this is not my mother's or grandmother's Catholic Church. I'm Italian, Irish Catholic. This next generation, the Catholic Church, has its own Info War going, and we really need more Father Rippenger's to come out. And I think this next Pope, because we're not ignorant, we listen to the Info War. We have all of this technology where this generation of Catholics is not ignorant. And because the Holy Spirit is moving, that Catholics, I think, had it with the last post.

Oh, yeah, that's why in Europe and here, and the Catholic Church leadership is behind it, there is a war on traditional real Catholics. And they're saying that's the number one threat because they're worried about you taking your church back over. Yeah. So just speak to, if you would, Leo, because we follow you. you. You are the info war on the side of the Catholicism. I follow you. I love the podcast with your wife. I go back and

watch those all the time because you guys are the cutest couple ever. But it's because of you. I agree what you say and I agree that we need to protect the real Catholicism. That's why in this book I said ultimately

I still define myself as a Catholic. People say, are you not reborn this and this other? I stay where I was. I am born within the Catholic Church, and I want to save the Catholic Church, which is part of my DNA. I'm not a Catholic, but watching

this, the conservative Catholics, I know are some of the best people, like Mel Gibson, all those folks. It's good. We need to see this reform, schism, whatever you call it. I think it has to get worse for it. It's better. We got to jump. Thank you, Annie. I can talk to you all day, but we've got to get more people on. Let's go to Jake in Ohio. You're on the year. Go ahead.

Yeah, so I had a African priest that was from Ghana, and he tried to tell me that he did not know about Lollibella in Axum, in Ethiopia. I'm 44. I'd known about since I was 15. So that sent me down this right, you know, just my BS detector. This is why I think he chose the name Leo, and this is about something called Yaldibeioh, and Yaldibeioz means little boy come here. Produced came to be some and arrogant beast, something resembling a lion. So that dude is just horrible, man. Yeah, well, I mean, I can't not say that you are right, but I still

think that we can pray for a future in which something might happen, something dramatic that will reshape. I was going to ask, could this Pope have a Saul of Tarsus, wrote the Damascus moment, a miracle? I don't think so, but I think that Rome might be destroyed and this papacy might actually have to suffer God's judgment, because at this point, only God can intervene in this whole thing.

Thank you, Jake. Julie in Texas, you're on the air. Go ahead. Yeah, Alex. Yes, welcome. Yeah, thank you. And so I had a question for Mr. Begami because I, you know, I grew up Catholic and but I am non-practicing for many years.

Yet when I, you know, started looking at the popes and who the, who the possible Pope's next pope might be, I saw this, don't even ask me to pronounce his name, but the Cardinal from Congo, I was wondering what Leo thinks of this guy. I mean, what I read about him, it seems really nice. And when I was looking at the pictures of the people, you know, I'm going like, I can just see like almost the white light of the Holy Spirit around him. You're talking about Peter Turkson? Oh, no, no, no. I mean, this guy is like a name I could not pronounce, from Congo. From Congo. From Congo. I think. I understand who you mean, the Franciscan Abongo, who has been one of Africa's most outspoken

Catholic leaders. However, the problem at the moment with electing an African pope seems to have been that most of them are rather conservative, and this conservatism goes against the plans of the new church. So I totally understand what you mean with Friedolinga, Abongo Bezungu, because he is a guy who might have that more conservative standards, many others within the African church. However, Pope Francis has really tried to destroy the foundations of the African church by elevating to the cardinalship more and more progressive people.

Absolutely. All right. Thank you. We've got to move quick. I can talk to these callers a lot, but we like the next person. Lorraine in Chicago. Talk about the belly of the beast where the new pope comes from. Lorraine, go ahead. Hi, and nice to talk to you. I have been trying to get this message to you, and it's so interesting that I am on here now, so I think it's meant to be. Yes. I'm from Chicago. My husband tells me, actually, this pope is now from my neighborhood in Chicago, and I think Superich had a lot to do with it.

I'm a traditional Latin Mass Catholic, and he hates the Latin Mass, as do many of them there. and I believe that this pope is a continuation of the message of Our Lady of Fatima, and that message is really critical to the Pope, the next Pope, and the period of peace that she promised. This is the Marianne time that we are in. And she asked, as part of her prophecy or request in 1917, for the Pope to consecrate Russia to her immaculate heart, as she orders, the specific means. 14 times it's been done by Pope since Pius the 12th, and they've never done it correctly because the result is a period of peace,

and of course we don't have that. And so interesting for you, Alex, I slightly, you know, Father Gruner is the Fatima priest. He has known forever to be the priest that has promoted the true message of our lady Fatima. He was asked by Putin in 2014, his sent an emerald. his sent an embassy to meet with Father Gruner, because Putin wanted to know how Russia was implicated in the message of Fatima, and he was the expert.

So the embassy, or his ambassador, went and met with Father Gruner, and then he went to meet Putin met with Pope Francis. When he got two different stories, he then decided he wanted to meet with Putin himself, and I just found this out reading the Fatima Crusader, badama.org's website. And I just found this out that Father Gruner was preparing to meet with President Putin and three days perfectly healthy, three days before he met with him,

he died of a heart attack. I got a jump, but interesting. Do you anything about that, Leo? Well, of course, the third message of Adam that has been disclosed by the church is a little bit dubious because, like Father, Malaki said that there was another message that was instead kept secret because it talks about the destruction of the church. And that's what I was actually citing before.

The apostasy of the church forms the background context of the first secret of Fatima. And this apostasy begins and continues now with this new pope. And the punishment is a real punishment. It's a physical. We're out of time. The show's over. Owen Troyer is about to come on. join us again soon with more developments.

Leo Zagami, leo Zagami.com. I want to have you on for a full hour about your book. Thank you. Thank you, Alex. I'm sorry to Paul and Karen. I tried to get to you. I got a lot in, but we're out of time. Very interesting.

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