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Episode Date: May 26, 2025

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We pay 74% of worldwide costs for 4.2% of the population. I mean, we are targets of companies with our government literally raping us. And you see the global awakening to tyranny. You see the populist awakening happening everywhere. You see the Republican Party now, the majority party for the first time in its history. They didn't come around until Lincoln, right before that, the Democrats, the OG. And now the Democrat, there are more Republican voters, the Democrats, the record numbers of blacks, Hispanics voting Republican. We've got it recognized Republicans are now the party of the working class.

Well, one of the Democrats, the party of illegal aliens and pedophiles and nuclear war. So I wanted to get Mark Mitchell, who is recognized as the, because Rasmussen is recognized as the top polling group of the world. Hands down, it's not even debatable, the most accurate, and then he's their head pollster. So there you go. VP director of polling operations, Mark Mitchell has a diverse background with experience in operations, finance, venture capital, and private equity with a strong foundation of mechanical engineering. Mark has a held leadership positions at various notable companies such as Walmart, ecommerce, jet.com, J.J.B. Morgan Chase.

It's always important to actually have real world experience. Raspus and Reports is a nonpartisan independent electronic data company specializing a collection and publication of public opinion polling information, Mark underscore R underscore Mitchell, Rasmussenreports.com. So he came on today, and I wanted to get him on, and he just sent me the mother load of everything and a bunch of other subjects about geoengineering.

What do the public think about that? But it's almost all good news. If I read this right, I don't have a lot of time to go over at all. With young people, Hispanics, blacks, it's trending even up higher Republican, thanks to the Trump effect. But there's some scary stuff with Democrats trending up for the midterm.

I want to hit all that first. Then I want to hit the geoengineering and everything else he sent me. So let me just try to give Mark Mitchell the floor here to start. Mark, with your expert understanding, did I kind of hit it right? Is this a big populist realignment? Or am I counting my chickens before they're hatched? Yeah, maybe even an anti-establishment realignment. There's a major political shift happening right now.

And part of it is it's hard to tell because we just hit an election. And things are always kind of scattered after. that, some people stop answering polls, some people, it takes a while for their belief set to change. But what we're seeing coming out of this election is absolutely stunning. Now, 18 to 29-year-olds have been drifting farther to the right for like a decade. But even after the election, it's become to the point where they're 18 to 29-year-olds and the 30-to-39-year-olds are by far now, like the most conservative. They had as high as a 60% Trump approval rating right now. And that's just absolutely stunning to see that. And so that's a major shift. And also we have a situation now

where we were getting like a 50% black approval rating for Trump at one point. And even the generic ballot, it is converting some to Republicans. Hispanics would go Republican 51 to 37 right now. And Republicans would get 20% black support. So this has been an inexorable shift of people waking up. And it comes down to, in my opinion, what happened during the Biden administration, which is literally every institution revealing themselves as infinitely corrupt, and we're on the other side of something where people don't trust the mainstream narrative anymore. People assume that the news media is lying to them. People assume that their health officials are lying to them.

People assume that corporations don't have their best interests in heart, and they're right. They're absolutely right. Now, I don't know if it'll convert to a massive Republican sweep or a majority. Republicans are down one in the generic ballot that we just did for the first time. after the election right now. And so this is a really big concern. Trump built, in my opinion, an operation that's very good at getting Trump elected.

But J.D. Vance doesn't poll as well as Trump does. People are not like really completely sold on the Republicans. But again, it's all really early. Let's go back to what you're seeing on the generic poll. You just mentioned. Explain that for people that aren't a guru pollster like you are. Well, this is in order to try and figure out what's going on in the Senate in the House of Representatives. And in many cases, we don't even know who's going to run against those people yet.

Primaries haven't been held. And so really the only thing that you can do is ask people, basically the generic ballot question. And that is, if the elections for Congress were held today, would you vote for the Democrat candidate or the Republican candidate? And the idea is over time that's kind of correlated to pickups in the House or Senate. And the correlation has broken a little bit, let's just say. We were dead accurate in the fall. We had Republican plus three. The actual result was literally Republican plus three.

We were completely right. But that should have turned out more Republican pickups than it actually did. And we all know what happened in some of those Senate races. Yeah, we all know what happened in. The fraud. Exactly. And so we're tracking it now. And I'll tell you in the 22 cycle,

Republicans were up the whole time, but it narrowed a lot after the Dobbs decision. That really got a lot of Democrats off the couch. And so the big question is, are the Democrats going to get inflamed about something? Are they going to turn out? Will there be some big pivotal thing? Or will people be inspired by the Republicans making changes? And I don't know. We just don't know how much, you know, the response to that bill is going to be.

Like, people are kind of confused. There's a lot of, a lot of headlines flying, a lot of chaos. all the doge stuff, and then all of a sudden there's a rug pull on that. And I think people are looking for Trump's administration to make good on a lot of these promises. You're showing this one thing here, though, this chart, this stack rank of the last decade and all the sub-demographics and how far they moved right is absolutely incredible. Literally every minority group, urban group, literally everybody except for affluent white, suburban, suburban, men, college-educated white men, unmarried women. Everybody else moved massively to the right.

It's like Latino men moved 33 points to the right in the last decade. So there's this aspect of the entire country's moving right, and yet you have these demographics that defile expectations and move left, and it's mostly your white, affluent, suburban liberal. And that's really strange. and I think it's an effect on the media gaslighting and the psychological operations that they've been perpetrating on the people. We talked about this on your show before, how vastly different MSNBC viewers issue set is from Fox News viewers issue set. But it almost really looks like the squishy targets have been kind of these people that might have like white guilt essentially.

And it's been effective for them. Well, that's their cover for all they do. but they know they're the establishment. They see change. They see a populist awakening, not a deterrent around the world that's undeniable. And they are defending the system because they'd rather everything collapsed and then they'd be on top of it. And so the Democrats try to bill Trump and everybody as the establishment. No, we're the vanguard with a beachhead trying to reverse their kleptocratic behavior.

And so I would just tell Republicans and conservatives and populists, and just realists and people that are common censors, Trump, from what I watch, this is all I do, is swinging for the fences, he's working with what he's got, and he is a trillion times better than anything leftist and globalists have to offer. So don't ask what you can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. We need to get all in on Trump, in my view, if we want to survive, because, you know, the left worldwide wants war.

I mean, they're nuts. Yeah, you use the word, I think, is correct, is clep to crack. I think that's really what it is. And one of the things that I was looking at, it just completely blew me away. Today, I looked at a chart of corporate profits after tax in the U.S. over the last 25 years. And what's incredible is that, listen, COVID happened,

and I understand that there was an economic, like, realignment. Some stuff happened, right? But prices increased across the board for literally everything. Groceries, energy, cars, housing. The price for everything. And it really squeezed American consumers, massive drops and consumer confidence. And what you also see is that in the Biden administration, corporate profits skyrocketed. They went from $2.2 trillion in 2020 to $2.9 trillion one year later.

And they stayed that way. So it's not like everybody was getting squeezed. It was literally a massive wealth transfer. The big companies excelled while they were shutting down mom and pop entrepreneurs across the country. And that has not been righted, and that's something that needs to get fixed. Everybody says that the economy is the number one issue,

but the metrics that we've been following across the board, everybody says they're worse off than they were four years ago. We had only 22% saying today's children will have a better life than their parents. That's the American dream. The American dream is that, well, you might not have had it very well, but your kids are going to do better. That's gone. That's off the table.

And it's all because of this marriage of major corporations and Washington, D.C. And you could see the animal rear its face back in April. They really got inflamed all of a sudden when there was a little bit of a hit to the stock market. Voters don't care about the stock market at all. They say that the economy is jobs, and that's what they need to see. And so for that to happen, there has to be economic change. No, I totally agree. Here's why you know this, the numbers I read yourself every day.

But I see it on the street. Young people finally figured out. I'm not going to be mean to boomers. My parents are. But they enjoyed all the largest, the overspending, the real estate boom, all that. And that's who we see going more to the left is the boomers. And so it really is a class warfare thing. Even though everything would collapse, the boomers would lose everything very soon.

Trump's trying to save the boomers, the young people, the black people, everybody, and stop World War III. And so it really is a race for Trump to get his reforms in. that will work and are working. We're winning the trade war, but people need to understand. I've talked to a lot of economists. The only way out is what Trump and Lutnik and the rest of them are doing.

Kevin O'Leary will explain that. I mean, if you study the economy, this is our last move. We still have all the cards, but if we don't play this, and the left tries to block this, and Moody tries to crash the market and lower our rating and go after the banks

and not let us lower interest rates, but the EU gets to. I mean, you can see these forces working against us, And so it's really an info war to keep the public informed, understanding how serious this is. Yeah, every day I feel like I'm in an info war. I feel like you must have felt for the last couple of decades. But these are unreleased numbers, and they really do, I think, illustrate what's going on. You mentioned the boomers, and it is a real thing.

10, 15 years ago, they would have perceived to have been the most conservative. And, of course, conservatism was different back then. It was more of a social conservatism and a neo-conservatism. But one of the questions we asked, this is unreleased yet, but we just got them back. Was your standard of living better when you were a teenager or now? And every single age demographic, 18 to 29-year-olds, 30-to-39-year-olds, you know, middle-age, every single one of them says their standard of living was better when they were a teenager. 40 to 49-year-olds, say 47 percent to only 32 percent of them say that their standard of living is better now.

Every single age bracket except for the boomers. and only 25% of them say their standard of living was better back then, and 54% of them say their standard of living is better now. And so you have this debt spiral, this imploding balance sheet, and it's basically to subsidize this generation that is now like trying to vote for it to continue when everybody else is literally struggling. And that's the reversal that we're seeing.

Meanwhile, Bill Gates really wants the boomers to take those shots because you don't want the retirement to be paid out. So looking at the wider picture, Trump has to get election integrity. He's got to get around these out-of-control courts that are trying to play president, and he's got to get voter ID. And if he's able to implement that, the Republicans continue to win in landslides in this alignment,

but the fraud will override that if he doesn't. Yeah, I think that's the concern. And it's one of the things people ask me what's going to happen in the midterm. And I really, there's so many things that could happen between now and then. They're literally a federal investigation into Act Blue right now. Our biggest polling miss was 2018, and that's because the Democrats just massively overperformed. That was also the cycle that Act Blue, for the very first time, raised a number in the billions. And so I think that there's a connection there.

And also the election integrity stuff. There is an election integrity task force now. There's a lot of stuff that they could release. We talked about this again on your show. Everybody's talking about Epstein. But the voters want, I think it's a very popular topic specifically on Twitter. Yeah, you did a poll on that. Records on election fraud.

Epstein scandal should be released. That's what voters say. Yeah. Well, the numbers are strong. 36% say it's very important. to release records about Jeffrey Epstein, another 31% somewhat. So that's two thirds of voters. But then we asked the same question about, well, Trump administration promised to release

evidence of widespread coordinated 2020 election fraud. That gets a 47% very important, 24% somewhat. That's a really high number. That is 70%, 71%. So people actually want more the evidence about election fraud and not the Epstein files. They want Joe Rogan is the ultimate poll because I know Joe for 25 years. He knows everything I know.

But he's always careful about what he does. Joe Rogan is as hardcore as I am now, maybe even more on some issues. So when Joe Rogan sounds as hardcore as me, they got a big problem. And all the top podcasts are now exposing the globalists. And so the idiot Democrats have come out announced we want to find our Joe Rogan. It's the issues, dummies. You don't just magically find the right host and everybody believes your lies. No, no, no, no, no, no.

It's about being accurate. That's what they're looking for. Yeah. I laughed a lot at that because they're literally, this is about authenticity. That's the problem. Trust in the federal government and institutions was destroyed. We had a majority of people saying that the FBI was Joe Biden's personal Gestapo. We have people overwhelmingly say they don't trust the health system.

people, 64% of people think the media is getting talking points from the CIA. And so people are running from authority and they're flocking the podcasters and people like us who just open up and they can tell that they're not lying. And then the Democrats realize they have a problem and they go about trying to solve it the least authentically way possible, which is to throw money at it. They're trying to literally fund people. And I think it shows you what's wrong with politics is that you have all these grifters out there pitching rich Democrat donors. to try and essentially create another infoop. Like, that's what it is. No, I totally agree.

And you asked a question earlier. You don't know about what black swans or wildcards there are. Well, I don't want. The whole sorrow swing is going for violence. I've been predicting it. I've been predicting attacks on Jews. It's not hard to predict. You just saw it last night, very tragic.

And now Net Yom, he was used it to go after Iran as we knew he would. That's coming up after you leave us. And I'm like, Trump, I'm trying to stop nuclear war. And most of the studies show that can leave to that very quickly, just like Ukraine. but the Democrats, you know, Andy was taking over colleges, Tesla attacks, they are wild-eyed, they are dangerous, they're swatting everybody. I think it's a very safe bet we're going to see a summer of extreme rage, and they can't help themselves. That's going to backfire right there. How would another summer of love, like we saw in 2020 mostly peaceful effect polls?

Well, I'll tell you, I mean, I think that 2020 was, there was a lot going on then, right? And so there's so many trends that were happening. It's hard to attribute because what you also had was this whole like kumbaya coming together where everybody was all of a sudden super political because they had nothing else to do. And I think the Democrats really did benefit from that. Listen, there was, in my opinion, a lot of election fraud in 2020. There were mail-in ballots like flying all over everybody's houses. It was ridiculous.

Yeah. The Democrats got what, like 9 million more votes than they got in 2024? Yeah. Well, yeah, but part of the problem is that a lot of those votes, were real, too. Like, the polling did show that Trump was down nationally. It's just a question of what happened, in my opinion, in the swing states and how much. Probably an answer in the millions.

But also, you got to look at the time. Like MSNBC was getting like 2.5 million viewers in the prime time back in the fall of 2020 because everybody was riveted to their television sets. And so I think, again, there were these fires. A lot of people were gaslit about them. But a lot of people also kind of believed in the BLM movement. and a lot of people were paying attention to politics. But that's extremely discredited now.

Yeah, 100%. Well, I think a lot of these people sort of punched out. That's why you have Democrats. I mean, listen, only 800,000 people are watching MSNBC now. Their viewership has collapsed to one-third of what it was. And granted, that's less than a million people, but they sort of are what the narrative is right now. And if you listen and pay attention to it, you can feel it really has no teeth in it.

And so I do think it's like I think that they want a black swan. And I'm surprised we haven't seen one yet, quite frankly. And we all know that the COVID had like origins that were probably intentional. I can talk about this because most voters think that COVID was intentionally released by China. And I do think that there are other stuff on the table, but I think they're having a hard time jump starting the resistance right now. No, I agree. I agree. People like Bill Gates and Fauci go, oh, don't worry, a new virus will come and stop Trump.

People go, oh, yeah, from you. And then emblematically, just as an omen, the last eight members of Congress to die in office of all the Democrats, they're literally like dark crystal skexies. And that's just emblematic of what's happening. Yeah, 100%. I don't think they're going to get their burning cities. And you can even see they're trying to stoke the racial violence. It's gotten to the point where I don't think that that really affects people. people anyway. We pulled on this, how concerned are you that if somebody calls you a racist?

And only 13% of people say very concerned. So I kind of think they tip their hand there. And again, Kamala Harris convinced 49% of the electorate to vote for her. This wasn't about Kamala Harris. Only 30% trust the federal government. And so when the federal government tries to come out and make straw men or try and, you know, conduct these things, pitting different sides of the population against each other, I think that. that that's gone and done with. That's right. The old trade boat doesn't work, and instead the Democrats are doubling down.

Yeah. And I think that the core of conservatism is now focused very strongly. This is my feeling because I think Twitter reflects the heart of the dialogue right now. They are focused, in my opinion, on the legislature and what's happening there. And I think that that's probably dangerous for the establishment as well. Because you can see it, like Tillis blew up the Ed Martin nomination. and Twitter is really incensed. Like he's probably going to get a primary now.

Apparently he didn't get elected by much last time. And so is he going to fall? I don't know. But maybe a MAGA candidate shows up. Primary is that guy. And then all of a sudden the establishment Republican money comes down to shore up support for Tillis. And what Trump did. He's just made him the pardon lawyer, Ed Martin,

and the new basically czar over this weaponization of the federal government against the People Commission. and he's hitting a billion bucks to start to run that. And I'll just leave it at that. And reportedly, he's going to take the gloves off. I love it. Him, Harmeet Dillon, I hope they go hog wild. Because I think voters, listen, how I know that everything is going in the right direction

is because we asked that question. We told you about it, right direction, record polling. And we're still setting records. It got to now 49 percent, we almost got to like one point away for the very first time in our polling history. being able to say that a majority of people think the country's headed in the right direction. It was up four points. That's historic. We've never seen anything like that.

So a lot of optimism. Yeah, exactly. And you know the week that it tipped off the charts was when all of the stuff about USAID was coming out, when Doge was talking about how potentially billions were being stolen by social security. They need to get back to those announcements. And there's been somewhat of a rug bull. Do 10 more minutes with us on that. Because look, they tore up muscle.

folks. He had to, never take down his companies, he had to kind of retract a little. I don't blame him, but this is a real war. I said, we got a back must. I want to hit that, then I want to hit your poll on Jeffrey Epstein cover up, and then I also want to get into chemtrails, geoengineering. You did that. Mark Mitchell, the top pulsar in the world, hands down,

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The real war is here with the globalist and sorrows. Alexjones.network is tomorrow's news today. All right, I got a few minutes left with our guest, who's also very accurate, and that's who we have on, the guests that are accurate. The corporate media has on guests that will lie and read off a teleprompter, and that's why they are as popular as cancer. Mark Mitchell, head of Rasputson, polling, rasputson.com. Finishing up on the last big topic, I'll hit these two final ones with you.

The paradox here is most people that were already supporting Trump supporting, more supporting now, but those that still drink the Kool-Aid are getting more radical, more insane. And I just wonder if there's any way to ever get them to wake up to common sense and populism. And overall, I get from what you're saying, is it's trending that direction? Yeah. Yeah, I think 100%. And I said it back in November the first time on your show.

I said the cult is going to get smaller and cultier. And that's exactly what's happening. And I've been watching reaction videos on YouTube where they go and ask Democrats. Look at that. The border invasion stopped. Why do you think it is? And they use emotional responses. They accuse you of lying.

They run away. They say, no, that's not the real issue. climate changes. And it's this, essentially, they've created a religion where being part of the belief structure is more important than objectively parsing reality. But when things get bad, when you push people, they get concerned about reality. And I think that's really what happened. And it's completely what's happened on Twitter. I mean, I don't even get it. Listen, I say some, like, pretty inflammatory stuff. And I don't even get trolls anymore because I think they got tired of ad hominem attacks. It doesn't work anymore.

And I think when you have people who are concerned about the truth, as we are now, because the country is faced with existential problems, then they're going to question everything. And if you've created an establishment, the whole job is for the entire globe to leach off the American taxpayer donkey. It's dangerous when people are asking questions and are interested in the truth. And to go back to your statement earlier about, you know, we're winning overall. humanity, but things aren't sure to the future, because there's so many variables in black swans. What Trump did yesterday, and he's doing it more and more, beyond

a fireside chat, to bring in the bad guy, Zelensky, to bring in Ramaphosa, you know, the South African, whose party openly passed a law to take white farms without reparations or without consideration or payment. And then he's like, no, no one's killing anyone.

No, thousands dead. No, no one's taking land. And then we have a clip of him last year saying we're going to take the whites land and not pay them for it. And then you've got all the other big parties saying kill the white, kill the white farmer, kill the bore, kill the Afri-Connor. And then Trump goes, oh, really, here's a bunch of recent murders. Here's a news article from your own country. And then here's a short video just showing a compilation.

And then the corporate media comes out and tries to cover up and defend what we all just saw. That right there is why they're dying because Trump himself is the biggest news organization in the world now, with the constant presentations and press conferences. When Elon Must does shows, they get hundreds of millions of years, some billions of listens, and it just shows how if they could get censorship back in as the EU and others are trying, I think that's their only hope and then go to a totalitarian model. Here's the president of South Africa a year ago saying take the land from the whites and don't reimburse them for it. That's the law, by the way.

And then, of course, he's then in the White House saying, no, no, no, no, no, we don't. don't do that. Here it is. The question of land. The land of our four fathers and our four mothers must return to our people without any fail and without any payment of

compensation. And it must happen now. And it's just no one was there when they first got through. They created the culture and the food. The population went up hundreds and hundreds and thousands of times. It's insane. So it's Stuff like that. What did you make of that yesterday?

To me, that was, that was a, that was a bellwether moment and people loved it. I think Trump's going to do that a lot more. I hope he does. And it also is dangerous. And I think Mike Cernovich had the best take that I saw on it. He said that it was illustrative of a very big energy shift. And essentially there were people who will be woken up, that this will matriculate to everybody. And they will see this is signaling that the honesty and hard truths need to be confronted

in a very aggressive way. And so here's the problem, right? You have a lot of normies. You have a lot of fluff. You have a lot of misinformation and money. And those things matter in elections, but the core also matters. And so you have a core that is interested in aggressive truth and justice. And you have another core that, quite frankly, is accelerationist.

And that is not a good equation. And it's impossible to predict where it's going to go. They won. I mean, we have 71% of Democrats want, a law to throw Elon Musk in prison for his role in Doge. They don't even know what he did, but a majority of Democrats want him in prison. And, you know, there's other polling that shows that a pretty good chunk of Democrats are happy that Luigi Mangione killed somebody.

They're happy or they wish that the assassin and Butler hadn't missed. And, you know, they're also supporting a group that's calling for Intifada globally. So it's these are all not good things and directions. I mean, it's tough. And yet, the polling says everybody's happier than they've ever been that the country's moving in the right direction. So, strange times. Absolutely incredible. Two final big stories.

Did you see the director of the FBI, Deputy Director, Patel and Mangino on Fox when they're like, oh, Epstein killed himself. We've seen the file. And then, oh, and also crooks acted alone in Butler. and I've studied both, take hours to show all the evidence. It's ridiculous. But regardless, no one is buying it. And then they look like their hostages being held prisoner, blinking torture, SOS with their eyes.

I mean, this looks like deer in the headlights, cat caught with a canary in its mouth. Did you see that clip? Oh, yeah. And it's not good enough. And if they need polling to support it, I will poll and tell them. But people know, this is back from Twitter.

2020, we pulled about Epstein and a majority, 52% thought he was murdered and only 21% actually thought he killed himself. Only one in five Americans. And so forget about the Republicans who might be with you. They might not like some of the things you do. What about the independence that you convinced? What about the blue-collar Democrat voters who think that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered? And then you come out and do this. It doesn't build trust.

And all I'm asking for them is to communicate better. Give a little bit more context. Explain something more than just no. Again, that number, 64% think that the CIA is seeing political news with talking points. Well, you mean, USAID came out and it's all confirmed. And again, you did a recent poll just five, six days ago, for the majority of people want the election fraud information out. They want the Epstein, you know, to be released.

Yeah. numbers in the 60s and 70s. You don't get there without a significant number of independence and Democrats who have entrusted the country to Republicans right now. And Republicans are failing on these very two big promises. Okay. People don't want to hear two weeks. People don't want to hear press the I believe button. People want to see disclosure and transparency because they don't trust the government.

And speaking of that, now HHS said was recently on with Dr. Phil. and he said, look, we think it's DARPA. Well, we don't think it's DARPA. Darba created the plan. Department of Energy, the Pentagon is involved. There is geoengineering. I interviewed the father of it before he died, Ben Livingston on record.

They certified they can control hurricanes in 67 with the Navy Stanford Research study. He was running Operation Popeye in Vietnam. He was in World War II, the first got to fly into a cyclone with a weather plane, the father of weather weapons. and he said, oh, yeah, we can totally control them with just spray planes. Now with these ground towers, it's harp-like systems, but they're everywhere. It's the Doppler, folks.

It's 10 times the power that's supposed to have. It's a whole DARPA program. And he's saying, yeah, we're going to look into it. We're going to release it. We've put somebody in to look at it. And then now you've done a poll on this. Here's the clip of him on Dr. Phil. My name is Emily, and my biggest concern is the stratospheric aerosol injections

that are continuously peppered on us every day. bromium, aluminum, strontium. It's sprayed in our skies all day long. And I know you've talked to Dane Wigington about this. He seems to be one of the experts in the field. Is there a question? Yes. How do we stop it?

That is not happening in my agency. You know, we don't do that. It's done. We think by DARPA. And a lot of it now is coming out of the jet fuel. You know, those materials are put in jet fuel. I'm going to do everything in my power to stop it. We're bringing on somebody who's going to think only about that.

Find out who's doing and holding them accountable. Yes, sir. All right, so, A, what do you make of that and B? Tell us about this national survey where you brought up geoengineering. Yeah, that's a stunning admission. And I'll tell you, I like this one, this chemtrail one. very specifically because I don't think a lot of people actually know the evidence. It may be something they heard about, but they don't really know both sides of the argument.

They haven't been explained to science. It just might be on their radar because this is the effect that you get when you force an unsafe vaccine on people and then lie to them because they observe things in reality around them and they say, well, my reality doesn't match the lies I'm being told. And so authority was destroyed. They undermine their own authority. So just this question, very straight, fair question. How likely is it the government agencies have been secretly releasing chemicals into the atmosphere as part of a geoengineering and weather modification activities? 20% say very likely, 24% say somewhat likely.

And a bunch are not sure, but you only have 39% saying not likely. So this is a plurality response. Like almost half of America is like, oh, yeah, sure, probably. Our government would probably do something like that. I don't know what it is, but yeah, they're definitely Republicans. It's almost six and ten Republicans. And even 35% of Democrats and 40% of independents. So again, we can't be governed.

We cannot be governed by organizations that nobody trusts. And people want solutions. The state legislature in Florida recently passed legislation to prohibit the release of chemicals into the sky to alter the weather or atmosphere. Would you support or oppose similar legislation in your state? 60% support it, 37% strongly, only 27% opposed. So it's a winner. And we have, this is the problem. I could rattle off a list right off the top of my head of 10, like, easy winners.

You know what I mean? Like just 10 things that Republicans and Democrats should be able to come together and do right now. And it's things that Democrats support, like paper ballots and, you know, IDs for voting. Democrats even support that. And so the only reason I can surmise having seen everything I've seen is that there's no money in passing something that the voters want. It's like, now we're going to use the filibuster, oh, this performative thing where all these deals have to get made behind the scenes. And we're seeing it now. People know it. Like Republican and Democrat legislators are getting ratioed all over Twitter because people, I think, are starting to see through

it. So now I hope that it changes. things and it's definitely a new paradigm and we're just going to have to see where it goes. Incredible. Wow. What an exciting time to be alive. And again, you guys long term are the recognized most accurate polling agency. They've got all sorts of groups that index that. And there's a few others that are close and more specialty groups.

You guys are not that big of an organization. We have a huge footprint. That's all I want is the truth. That's all I try to search for is a true. My job is so easy. It's hard. You've got to be objective and do a lot of research and a lot of real world experience. But it's just so much more refreshing to be on team humanity

and actually want to be part of the future by understanding the future. And then, of course, with leadership, it's not just that you understand the future. You make the future. And, you know, I think humanity's kind of woken up to that fact that who we thought was running the ship isn't who was running it. So it's a very, very exciting time. Mark Mitchell, Mark underscore R underscore Mitchell, Rasputson Reports.com. Have you done a poll yet in closing on if people would support

repealing the amendment barring a third term of a president? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did. I forget the number. It was like a decent amount, 30s or 40s, but a majority of Republicans are like, yeah, sure, let's do it. Let's get Trump in there again. So Republicans are for it. You know, I mean, FDR was in there three times, so they passed that amendment. just don't know. Trump's still hanging in there, but I just don't know if at 82, he could serve another term. It just doesn't sound. Yeah, the problem is what the second that there's any political weakness, the rhinos are going to go full on rhino mode. They're going to try and

shove another Mitt Romney down people's throats, and it's not going to work. The person's going to lose. So there needs to be, in my opinion, work done in the national Republican infrastructure that is not being done right now because Trump gave the Republicans a gift. Here's your platform. keep running with this, keep doing this. He literally taught him how to win. And so my question is nationally at the RNCs, at the state Republican level, and the NRCs, and the Republican Governors Association and the Senate Republican Leadership Committee, what is being done to turn it into MAGA?

And I don't think anything's really happening. I don't see an aggressive campaign to primary rhinos. I don't see... No, I agree. We need to extinct the unpopular Republicans. And look, I like J.D. Vance. I've met him. I've talked to him. He's very smart. He's very eloquent and elegant.

But he just doesn't have the charisma. But, I mean, of course, compared to Kamala Harris or Tampton, Tim, he's got all the charisma in the world. I don't really, do you see anybody out there in the Republicans that's got it like Trump? This is a tough one. We talked about fourth turning, and part of the unpredictable thing about this is the fact that vacuums are going to get filled by. younger generations. And so he might be a tough one to predict what the response is. He's a very different style than Trump, but it might be the right style. You know, what the zoomers and millennials might want to get inspired by a very different type of leadership. I don't know. What I can tell you

is so far, he hasn't converted all of Trump's numbers. We actually had a matchup where he was down a few points on Bernie Sanders, and that's not a good thing. Now, they're both in the 30s and all the caveats. It's like three years out. He just got elected vice president, but not a good sign. Who's the star? I mean, Kennedy, the voice is a negative, but overall, his action and his looks and his intellects

a plus. I mean, I think Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, I mean, I think they're looking pretty good. We haven't pulled on them specifically. Tulsi probably do good. I think Marco Rubio as well. Again, it's still a little too early to do the matchups.

This was a sponsor. poll, which is why we did it. I want to wait for a summer. I mean, he's definitely very intelligent and very effective. He just used to be a neocon. Now he's on our team. I just, he could be the ultimate sleeper. Well, he's got the right energy.

He's treating people, in my opinion, the right way to get the attention of folks. And everywhere I see, they love his character arc. And so people can certainly redeem themselves. And the question is, is that you're always, you're always in danger of these little mask off moments. You know what I mean? JD Vance has had one or two of those that, you know, raises a question mark, like calling people in the movement, mouth breathing him, the stills on Twitter.

You know, that's the danger is that Trump is literally Teflon Don. Like they threw everything at this guy. It did not work. He's kept all his supporters and actually gained many, many more. And that is only partially transferable. Incredible, my friend. Thank you so much. Very impressive.

Mark Mitchell. It's got to feel good to be the most accurate. pulster in modern history. Yeah, I'm going to have a good four years. We did well. The rest of the industry is imploding. It's nice to see. Well, you were doing good before they all imploded, you know, even in 2016.

I mean, you've been doing, or brass mucinous. Well, it's like three times in a row. I can understand how they missed 2016. I can even kind of understand how they missed 2020. But one, third time is a charm, right? We all know what they were doing now, very patently obvious. And in fact, at the end, they all heard it back in my direction. And I think it was sort of a last minute attempt to save credibility.

But you still have people out there attacking us. It's just they have no power anymore. Mark Talperin said that we were in denial, us Rasmussen reports. It's like, no, I measure opinion. I'm giving you my numbers. And you can check, like did okay in November. So when I tell you that Donald Trump's approval rating is pretty good, it's coming from data. It's not denial.

And it's, you know, they just want to call us right wing polster and dismiss us. and it doesn't work anymore. Thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Great to be here. All right. I got a bunch of stuff I haven't gotten to yet.

And I want to play some clips from yesterday's Senate hearing. It's incredibly important. And you also got Joe Rogan coming out with Aaron Rogers, Bobaheemian Grove, and gay night clubs of the Vatican. And then I love. love comments on X. I just get a lot of good information, get ideas, I just spend hours there. I probably shouldn't just read the comments.

And I love the trolls. I love it all. It's just, it's really entertaining. But I did a report a couple days ago about Russia and how their population is plunged and how the media says that's good, that'll destroy them. But when ours

is plunging, it's a good thing for us. It's bad for Russia, good for us. And then somebody said to Grock, Grock, is Alex Jones right that the left wants depopulation. GROC said, no, Alex Jones is full of crap. Now, GROC's great on math and things like that, but it's just as bad as Chad GPT when it comes to politics.

And GROC is retarded. So I can play you 10 hours, 10 hours of heads of foundations, Bill Gates, globalists, the WF, saying, we're doing this to depopulate. But instead, I'm just going to play. like seven minutes of it coming up next hour. And I can just show you thousands of articles, you know,

Daily Mail, Wall Street Journal, oh, Bill Gates met with Warren Buffett and world leaders secretly for depopulation plan, you know, the good club. So I'm going to hit that coming up. And I'm going to hit the Joe Rogan, Aaron Rogers thing.

Coming up as well. First, I want to hit Benjamin Netanyahu because you knew this was coming. And he's going to use the communist socialist Democrat that killed the two Israeli embassy staff coming out of the Jewish Museum yesterday for war. And here he is hyping this. And this is not good. So you idiots that hate Jews and hate Israel and all this stuff, you're giving Netanyahu a gift because he's a bad guy. I don't think Jews in general more, but he's a bad guy.

Okay. So, but the left's retarded, so you can't stop them. And that's another reason I'm totally not anti-Israel. And for the Muslims, it's a disaster. Okay? And well, here's Netanyahu. These neo-Nazis, free Palestine is just today's version of Heil Hitler. They don't want a Palestinian state. They want to destroy the Jewish state. they want to annihilate the Jewish people

who've been in the land of Israel for 3,500 years. I could never understand how this simple truth evades the leaders of France, Britain, Canada, and others. They're now proposing to establish a Palestinian state and reward these murders with the ultimate prize.

Well, for 18 years, we had a de facto Palestinian state. It's called Gaza. And what did we do? get? Peace? No. We got the most savage slaughter of Jews since the Holocaust. You won't be surprised to learn that Hamas thanked President Macron and Prime Minister Starmar and Carney for demanding that Israel end its war in Gaza immediately. Hamas was right to thank them, because by issuing their demand, replete with a threat of sanctions against Israel, against Israel, not Hamas. these three leaders effectively said they want Hamas to remain in power

they want Israel to stand down and accept that Hamas's army of mass murderers will survive rebuild and repeat the October 7th massacre again and again and again because that's what Hamas is vowed to do I say to President Macron Prime Minister Carney and Prime Minister Starmer when mass murderers rapists, baby killers and kidnappers thank you you're on the wrong side of justice. You're on the wrong side of humanity. And you're on the wrong side of history.

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whether it's at the war room, 3 p.m. Central, about an hour from now with Owen Schroart, exactly an hour from now. one of the last shows in here if they come as a week to shut us down, which they say they are. They've only got their court order. But Roseanne, yeah.

The left and Alexander Soros over the whole empire is totally backing the Islamic invasion of Europe and the United States. Here's an overhead shot of him. And you have thousands of churches in Europe and the UK burned by Muslims. Two Pakistani Muslims just burned down a huge church in Wales.

And if you talk about it, they come and arrest you in the UK. Meanwhile, creeping Sharia, Washington becomes first state to recognize Islamic holidays. People can take off on those, but they don't recognize the Jewish holidays or other holidays. And meanwhile, you can't go to a Muslim country. They don't recognize us there. Most Muslim countries, they kill Christians or Jews. So my point is, you were getting up the Islam angle.

And we're going to do it more on your podcast we're going to tape today. Yeah, but every time they say Jews, they also include Christians. And people are not seeing that. And Christians are being, you know, genocided and murdered in so many Muslim states across the world. and nobody's talking about that as they, you know, talk about Jews 24-7. It makes me very angry because, you know, Islam says first the Saturday people and then the Sunday people, which means Christians, and we are inextricably bound,

and I don't like that, and I don't like that it also includes the death of America, not just Israel, and people are not putting cause and effect together in that way. Well, what I see is people that only talk about Israel is they just don't talk about Islam, and it is Islam persecuting Christians and you can go show certain sects in Israel attacking Christians or whatever to that I mean that goes on some of the ultra-Orthodox but then some of the ultra-Orthodox think Israel shouldn't even exist

Well, they do They don't think Israel should exist The same people so you know they're pro-Palestine too That's what I'm saying is there's a lot of different groups Yeah, there's a lot of different groups But the one that I care about most Are the ones who came from the Middle East and were kicked out of 53 Arab states, which are now Jude and Rhine,

because, you know, they kicked them all out from Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, every Arab state. On Sephardic Jews. Yes, Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews that are always in the Middle East and kicked out of their homes of thousands of years, their wealth confiscated, and they had to go to Israel because they're Middle Eastern. And that is left out of every conversation about the Jews. when they go on about the Jews, they're talking about European Jews. And so the Jews who, you know, Israel is two-thirds brown, and they never talk about that.

American Jews have, you know, helped to do that. American Jews, the liberals, have helped to make all Arab states Jude and Israel being white and colonial. and it all fits into the Islamization of Europe, of the Middle East, and of America. And if you don't see that cause and effect, I think you should shut up. Well, that's right. No one wants to talk about the left being an ally with Islam, and they want to just say Islam's a victim all day, including the right-wingers, the only obsession on Israel,

and then they never want to discuss that. No, no, they don't want to discuss that those, that Islam, is a supremacist notion, a supremacist religion. It is foreign to the Levant. Arabs come from Arabia, and they conquered and, what do they call it? Jihad? Yeah, but they conquered the Levant and, you know, pretty much killed every tribal people in the Levant and their colonizers. And it just makes me really mad when they say the people of the Levant are the colonizers.

Islam is a colonial supremacist. Well, that's the whole goal of it. Yeah. And here they come. They've done it to Europe, and now they're going to do it here, where Obama and the whole Muslim Brotherhood. He followed the Arab Spring. Yeah, he destroyed Egypt.

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They say they're coming this week. So I wanted to get her back on. And I asked her on last week when she was on days before, one of Jeffrey Epstein's most famous victims mysteriously died. And we're talking about Virginia Jafree. And she said everything she had to say. And it was documented and it all came out. and the King's brother and all the rest of it, the Clintons.

So why did they kill her? As Senator Lee said, they killed her. She didn't commit suicide. She said, I won't commit suicide. And then she dies. And he goes, no, no, she commits suicide. They did it to intimidate all these other victims. And they did it to send a message to everybody.

You better shut up because they know six weeks ago, Pam Bondi did raid the New York FBI. It did get the 14 terabytes that had been hidden and did send it the FBI offices around the country. that's how investigations are supposed to go. And from my FBI sources, say they are on it. So they are very, very concerned that this is all supposedly about to come out. People are very cynical about that, but we know how this is unfolded.

So Kathy O'Brien, trans-dash-formation.com, trans-dash-formation.com at the real Kathy O'Brien. She is the most famous surviving M.K. ultra-victum. Everything she wrote in her book 30-plus years ago, Transformation of America has been proven. and it's just amazing to have her. And Roseanne was like, hey, I want you to do my podcast next week. And she was talking about Kathy.

What a powerful interview was. I said, well, just come to my studio if you want. She's out in Fredericksburg. And I said, you know, we'll do it. And I said, why don't you come on with Kathy? So they're on here together right now. But I wanted to talk about what happened to Virginia, Jafree, and get Kathy O'Brien's take on that out of the gate. So Kathy, thank you so much for joining us.

I also want to get your take on that. that Roseanne Barb, but this is very, very tragic. Can I, could I say that Kathy is my best friend for 20 years? I knew you were friends. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, so, you know, I'm so happy to be on here with her. Well, let's talk about that first. I can't wait to hear how she's. How did you guys meet?

We met in, like, about 20 years ago or something at a conference about child trafficking and M.K. Alter, we were both. I introduced her, and that was the first time we met. And we had such fun. She's really, we had fun in the way that people who have been harmed as children can have fun. We had fun at like children. You went through a lot as well. Yeah, I went through a lot of mental stress and stuff as a kid.

And me and Kathy, we just always have a ball whenever we're together. We run in the water and we do fun kid things like. Then we're serious too. but she's just a lovely person. I love her. Well, so are you. Kathy, boom, very, we already had you schedule for this Monday, days before Virginia Jeffree die.

She gets hit by a bus a month ago, says they're trying to kill me. I'm not suicidal. Then she dead. We hear, oh, it's suicide instantly. Right when somebody died here, it's suicide right away, that's beyond suspicious. She'd have to be an idiot, in my opinion, to actually buy into this. I think it's a clear message to all these other victims to keep their mouth shut. What do you think, Kathy O'Brien and then Roseanne Barr?

Absolutely. I think that's what it's about is just to silence other victims and intimidate them. But for so many of us, you know, we just keep speaking out and get this truth out there. Roseanne is an amazing friend, my dearest friend. And we met at an expose in 2008 exposing child sex trafficking in Hollywood. That's how long Roseanne's been speaking out. So there are those of us who are not going to shut up no matter how they intimidate us, no matter how much censorship we endure, no matter what they do to attempt to threaten us and shut us down. We are not going to be stopped and we're going to keep speaking out because there's so many children that don't have a voice.

We give voice to them and hope to survivors that they can heal. It's within us all to heal. So it's very important for survivors everywhere to not be intimidated to keep speaking out. There's too many of us. They can't kill us all. And you said that last week. I want to ask you that again for new listeners, but elaborate on it. I said, are you angry more is not coming out quicker?

And you said, compared to what was coming out, this is massive. I totally don't just agree. I see that happening. We got to keep the heat on. But, man, I think a lot of people that want instant ratification who just woke up recently to understand almost no one knew this when you were speaking out about it 35 years ago. Yeah, people definitely are conditioned to instant gratification these days, and they think that the justice can be served in an instant when, in fact, we got a whole system to clean up.

They've been taking root now for generations. This has been going on ever since the wake of World War II when we imported the Nazi and fast-eus scientists into the U.S., and with them came the formula for MK. Ultramine control. It's been used for generations now, and it's going to take a long time with this corrupted system to be cleaned up. And you're absolutely right that it exploded at Brizosa's Mingolus study and the thousands of Nazi scientists brought here. But Sigmund Freud, Edward Bernage, there was a whole pedophile thing out of them, out of the UK as well. But they just then adopted the pure mind control. But my God, Sigmund Freud and all them were openly promoting sex with their needs.

pieces, everything. Yes, they were. Hitler was, you know, having sex with his underage niece. I mean, they're into this. Absolutely. Well, so are all the secret societies. They're all into it, too. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And then consider how Disney conditioned generations. Yeah. Please continue. Kathy, I interrupted you. Oh, no. I mean, that's just, you know, Disney was associated with Project Paperclip all the way back then and was associated with the Nazi and fascist scientists.

What does child cartoons have to do with NASA, you know, mind control? And the pedophile agenda is a mind control agenda, and it's been pushed all along with Disney. And Rosanna's an absolute hero to me for having exposed so much of these crimes against children and Disney's complicity for so long. She's just a pioneer in finding ways to be able to get truth out. And I just have so much respect for her for that. Well, it was fun. It is good to fight evil.

And Roseanne First, I get there, Brian, what do you think of the pedophile Satan cults right now? I don't think they're too happy. I think they're scared. I think they are nervous because so many, many of us know. I think they're scared because of all the children that they left alive who know. And of course, those children are, we're trying to encourage those children who are now adults to not be afraid and to speak out. And I think all the time, right, more and more all the time are doing it.

Because they know they have to. They know they owe it. And they know there'll be more children harmed unless they do. And so that's just a great part of the Great Awakening. In fact, it's the foundation of the Great Awakening. I had a clip on yesterday's list I didn't get to. Guys, pull it up and play in a few minutes. Juliet, Rose, Bryant, a big survivor of this saying, I will never commit suicide. I want to say I will never commit suicide. And I would imagine, Kathy, O'Brien, you're never going to commit suicide or you, Roseanne, either.

If I did me. Kathy? I've said it for years. I am not suicidal. I've been exposing the Clintons now for over 35 years. So I definitely make it clear that I'm not suicidal. They're the ones who inspired the term being suicided because so many die who have been exposing their crimes against humanity and above all their crimes against children. They call it Arkansas.

got it as well, and now clearly they Epstein Virginia Juffrey. Yeah. I can't believe that they're, I mean, I can't believe that they are so above the law. Particularly what they did in Haiti, all the things

they did in Haiti. The Clinton Foundation deputy had got caught smuggling kids. Yeah. And then she changed her name when she got out of prison and ran Amber Alert. Yeah. And I mean, and they still go to them, the Democrat Party still goes to them as the seated, you know, old folk who are the experts of the Democrat Party.

I just can't believe it. I just can't believe that they haven't been arrested or charged with anything, particularly Bill Clinton. I mean, everybody knows and everybody knows what she did. But until they get arrested, I'm still not going to be all that hopeful that we have. have fixed our system. I can't wait until Obama gets arrested either, because he should be arrested. Kathy, I brought this up to you last week, but I want you to elaborate and also, the whole trans agenda with the Pritzker's and all of it, the big medical funding, that came

out of MI6, that literally is MK Ultra, literally brainwashing kids without parents knowing, and public and private schools with grant money, putting them in a database, then breaking away from the family. they're passing laws in Colorado and other states to take people's children away if the parents say no you really are the sex you were born. I mean this they know there's a taboo that there

should be against sex with children so instead they're just saying oh instead the system takes your child and sterilizes them this is the pedophile cult making it's move in my view. Your view on that it's got to stop. We've got to wake up and realize that the pedophile agenda is a mind control agenda. It's not about a sexual

preference. It's about control And the transgender movement is not only the mind control aspect, but it's a depopulation agenda because these children can't procreate. So this is an attack on the whole human family, our whole system, our ability to have children. We're under a great depopulation agenda and we better wake up and stop this for the children now. and for future generations, if there are to be any, it's got to stop. Awareness is key, and I'm so glad awareness is rising. You know, it's thanks to people like you that are making it happen and getting people's attention and waking them up.

Awareness is the first step towards positive, necessary change. And it's total mind control. If parents don't want their child brainwashed by the school to tell them they're another sex and go on chemicals or be sterilized with... And be a patient for the rest of their lives to big farming. And Big Pharma Braggs will make $40 million, whatever, off each one in their life. Right. And then, but if the parents now in New Jersey, much of the states, on the forms, you can say they're another sex at birth, the parents deciding that they're another sex, which they can't even be.

I mean, this is sick. It is sick. And, you know, I think that they target, well, if you look at what they target, they target single mothers of children. You know, single mothers who, they say, are bipolar. their kids are targeted because they can teach them whatever and because the mother has mental health issues, she's easily led to. It's an attack on parental rights. I think it's more of the war on women because the war on women's rights is what's behind the Islamization,

whatever the word. Islamification. Islamification is, you know, that's a real way to get in there is to, destroy women's rights because then it's not very far to have me to wear a veil. It's not very many steps away from that, you know? That's right. And that they would target single mothers. First, they made single motherhood so glamorous for women.

Really? They were just isolating them. Yeah. Women have no, you know, they're like, oh, I don't need a man. Well, you kind of do if you're going to raise your kids and be there. And also the targeted men and made them try to be lazy and stupid. Well, yeah. Well, they made them into women. You know, they said masculine and it was toxic, so now they all want to be girls.

I mean, it was like a psychic mind control breakdown of everything we are. By the way, they admit they were. So let me raise this to you and to Kathy O'Brien. It came out six, seven years ago. Even in DW.com, Der Spiegel, even Newark or Magazine had to admit it, 30,000 plus children from the 60s into the 90s, purposely placed by the German government in a NATO CIA project with convicted pedophiles, little boys and girls, to be raped and prepared for the new family structure of pedophilia as a new society. That's right. That's exactly what Kathy O'Brien 35 years ago wrote in Transformation of America and the CIA project she was in,

satanic sex slavery, literally to build this core, beta tested and then expand it out, and now we're in that part of the project. But I want to say the reason that they do that is because they want to create child assassins. which let's cut to Gaza. That's what they're doing there. The UN is doing that there to those children, too. And they got child killers now in Ukraine. Yeah, but that's what they've been trying to create since Nazi Germany, child assassins because, you know, they forget that they're doing it.

Oh, they admit NMK. L.A.L.A.O. They came out of the Nazis in the 77 hearings. They had Frank Church, 76, 77, that one of the things was to create an undetectable mind control assassin and it was also sex slave operators delivering notes. People who know why knows because they don't trust digital or anything or radio, the real spy stuff's delivering notes. Well, that's what they used Kathy for was to deliver messages to world leaders, right, Kathy? Yeah, and the sexual aspect.

And my daughter, Callie, too, was just born into M.K. Ultra Mind Control. And when Mark Phillips listed us out of the Washington, D.C. swan, all the way back, in 1988 and handed me keys to my own mind, Kelly ended up with a medical situation. And while she was in the hospital, the so-called child protective services took custody of her. They don't need any excuse or any reason to do it. They just will up and take a child. There's no accountability. We've got to start making some kind of accountability for them to even be able to take children because they don't even need a warrant. They just come in and they take. children into custody and ripped them right out of their mother's arms like they did my own daughter.

So this has been going on for so long. It's documented. Well, CPS is the worst thing in the world. Child pedophile services. Yeah. And watching how it was being taken over and structured through the Hoover Building in the, the FBI Hoover Building in D.C., I saw that all being put in place and then had to experience my daughter being thrust into it. You know, it's absolutely horrific what can be done to destroy the family unit and people need to wise up to it. We've got, again, a long way to go to clean up our justice system. And until then, we better be vigilant and be protecting our own children. It's up to each and every one of us to wise up and realize

what this pedophile agenda is all about, what mind control is all about. and how much is eroding the sacredness of family values. In spite of what they did with my daughter and me, we're very close. You can't destroy a mother's love. You can't actually do that. We were manipulated in so many different directions through torture some K-Ltrai-Ltrai mind control, but they cannot stop a mother's love. So we need to realize that no matter what happens to us in life,

we still have within us the ability to align with the divining tap into that infinite power of love, that strength of the human spirit, tap into the base core of our humanity, and stop this madness once and for all. I totally agree. After the break, that's in like five and a half minutes. I've got some clips that tie into this where CPS is taking people's children if they don't vaccinate them. It's been going a long time, but this is still happening. There's no law you've got to do that.

No. And they'll devise other ways. After people catch on to the vaccination scam of getting the kids, they'll come up with something else because they need kids. They need kids to make the whole thing go. Their whole satanic, canite, Babylonian black magic system runs on kids. Absolutely. And Kathy, you wrote about this. It's come out and been confirmed so many cases. since they declassified the finders documents that Gunderson exposed decades before it came out. I know it's hard to get into it, but your father was, explained him as Satanist, and then they found out what he was doing and recruited him in. I'm not put words in your mouth that's well known, but just specifically, I mean, like, when you're about Satanism, can you describe some of the rituals? Well, they were absolutely horrific because the blood trauma is also found to be one of the most horrific

traumas on the human mind, especially to a little child. You know, and it's devastating. And when it goes on in your own church, it confuses the deepest core base part of us and really is intended to erode the very humanity that we have within us, what we're born to be, what we're born to live. It's time everybody remembers who they are and why they're here, align with the divine, and make that connection because it's been deliberately eroded for a long, long time.

That's why we had so many satanic images the last four years. And what you said is so key, I want you elaborate on that, but people that don't understand, when he came out the German news, these 30,000 kids, they would get up two or three, give them to the people to rape them, and then they would loan them out by seven. and it was in the news at churches, Catholic and Protestant, where they would do rituals and rape them. Satanists want to do it in the tabernacle. And in many cases, it would be the preachers,

the leadership are actually Satanists that then run a church by Sunday that's all leftist. And then really they're Satanist. That's exactly what that's real Satanism. That's right. Well, the safest, you know, this saying, the safest place for the devil to hide in church. Well, and they tell you this in Hollywood movies,

like Dragnet that came out in the 80s. That's hilarious. But the preacher, really the head of the pagans. That's right. And it's that way for Jews, too. Elaborate. Sorry.

When you consider, too, that Cardinal Law is the one who trained my father how to raise me in M.K. Ultra Mind Control. And he was caught up in the Catholic Child Abuse scandal. Once he told my father how to raise me in the project, that's when the satanic rituals really stepped up and were within the church itself. So, you know, there's a very... deliberate effort, a very organized effort to erode the free thought of humanity. And without free thought, we lose our free will soul expression.

Without that soul expression, we lose our discernment of truth, our ability to have compassion for each other, our ability to go within and tap into the strength of the human spirit and an infinite power of love. So the mind control agenda, which satanic ritual abuse is used for, the mind control agenda is ultimately a spiritual battle, you know, and so it comes full circle in that regard. We need to understand that this is a time for us to know truth that makes us free so that we can think to effectively start making the positive necessary changes. absolutely

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pieces of information. Let's play clip 25. This is Ian Carroll recently, a great reporter, talking about what's in the Podesta real Pizza Gate emails. Not how they distracted off to that pizza place. They use that as a diversion. No, in those real emails, they're having little kids delivered to the hot tub for his pleasure.

They're talking about Alistair Crowley rituals. They're talking about delivering the walnut sauce and the hundreds of thousands of dollars in hot dogs and things. And that is all in the FBI's on manuals code for everything from regular prostitutes, gay prostitutes as the hot dogs, into the cheese pizza and all that as children. And then if you say, you know. And a lot of those children come from CPS, particularly the walnut sauce versus brown children. Yep. And, you know, they delivered, CPS delivered children to Ditties parties, too.

You know that. That's come out. Absolutely. We've had listeners call and say, I was CPS, to my grandpa smank me. And then that night I was being raped at the truck stop. Right. I mean, it's just absolutely insane. So here's Ian Carroll.

Some of the things that were in those emails from Hillary Clinton and from John Podesta. Quote, I think Obama spent about $65,000 of the taxpayers' money flying in pizza slash dogs from Chicago for a private party at the White House not long ago. Assume we are using the same channels? Just think about $65,000 worth of pizza and hot dogs. Does that fit on a plane? Or are they talking about something else? Because then in another email, and these are verbatim quotes from these emails, quote, we plan to heat the pool.

So a swim is a possibility. Bonnie will be Uber service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzato, 11, 9, and almost 7, because it's really important you know that they're young children. So you'll have some further entertainment. And they will be in that pool for sure. Kathy O'Brien, your take on what you just heard there. It's absolutely horrific, and it's so blatant and in our face. Again, we've got to have a justice system to prosecute the crimes against humanity

that have gone unchecked for so long. So I've heard people say, well, we need the Epstein list in order to have evidence against the Clintons. And it's like, we have the evidence. We had the evidence back in the 90s, the early 90s, we had the evidence. we had the evidence. And it's, it's, we just got to have a system to actually prosecute them. So, you know, we, we have so much information out there.

And yeah, it's, it's time we see some justice and stop this madness once and for all. Let them know their consequences for actions like this. I think the reason they don't release the Epstein list is because everybody in our government is on it. Oh, yeah. And expanding on that, when you. look at all of this, just understand folks, it's even worse than we know.

It's way worse. Because people tell the time, oh, Alex Jones is basically always right. No, I'm not. I'm wrong a lot because it's almost always worse than I said. It is worse. Like some people that I know, you know, they were saying that

children were being trafficked from Florida to the Ukraine from CPS. Absolutely. Speaking of CPS, let's play clip 27 dealing with just one case you see these all the time where oh the doctor said the kids aren't vaccinated and so they sent a SWAT team to their house

here it is so the video you're about to see this is a SWAT team that's raiding this house and you won't believe why but as a former police officer myself these people should not have badges this is when all of them should say no, we're not doing this with the authority that we have. A police raid in full assault gear.

They barge in with shields up and guns drawn. Come out with your hands up! Is it a drug raid? A hunt for a dangerous fugitive? Nope, they're looking for a two-year-old boy with a fever. We are not kidding. The heavy-handed raid has everyone scratching their heads. Shocking video of a SWAT team rape.

How did it come to this? It started when the boy's mother, Sarah Beck, took him to the family physician in Chandler, Arizona with a 105 degree fever. The boy has never been vaccinated, and the doctor was concerned that he might have meningitis. So she told the mom to take him to the nearest emergency room. But shortly after leaving the doctor's office, Beck says her son started feeling better. He's acting normal, and I take his temperature and his temperature was 102. She decided not to take him to the ER. That's when the doctor called the Arizona Department of Child Safety and asked officials to check up on the boy.

The parents allegedly refused. As I'm on the phone with the police officer, I took his temperature. It was 100 degrees. There's no reason for me to give up my kid because he has a temperature of 100. You want to know what's sad? This gross abuse of power happens all over America all the time. Cases like this, but you never hear about it. So again, these officers need to lose their badges for that.

And I see more and more cases. small town where a 11-year-old boy or girl walks home from school a half mile away, and they see PSM and take them forever. But meanwhile, huge human trafficking, sex slavery children, oh, we can't find them. Kathy O'Brien, your take on that. It's, you know, again, it's something that I experienced with losing my own daughter that way. And I've certainly no stranger to FBI raids. You know, we've had a corrupt system for so long.

It's no wonder that it's reached the point that it has. We've just got to start taking action to get our system working again. It's going to take all of us. We can't count on, you know, a handful of people in Washington, D.C. To drain the swamp from the top down, it's up to all of us to drain it from the bottom up. Get out in your local communities. Talk with each other. Eye to eye, heart to heart, soul to soul.

Go in the school systems. Stop what's being done to the indoctrination of our children. Pay attention to what's happening in our court systems. Make sure that you have a constitutional sheriff in your area. And that's going to require making sure you have secure elections. So get active. Get out. Get active.

It's up to all of us. The children cannot wait for this system to clean up. It's up to each and every one of us to start making that difference now. I totally agree. Now here's Colleen Georgescu who won the election in Romania, so they canceled it and arrested him. Now that's being overturned. It looks like it will be a new election.

They've arrested Murray Le Pen, Bolsonaro, anybody who's a patriot. And unfortunately, Trump has not defended Colleen Georgescu. It's sad, but I always got a lot going on. I don't think Trump even knows about it. Elon Musk has. He's been on the show many times. He gave us an exclusive statement this morning.

We put on X about how disappointed he is and wishes he'd get help because this is the same globalist tried to kill Trump and take him off the ballot. You know, they're doing this. But here's Killeen Drogenske, five, six years ago. Remember, 15 years ago, he quit as the chief economist at the Club of Rome, which is the main globalist think tank. He was one of the chief economists at the UN over the whole carbon tax ESG plan.

He's a big insider. Found out there were a bunch of Satan's devil worshippers. He's been fighting for 15 years. Now gets elected president of Romania, and they just cancel it and arrest him just absolutely insane. Here he is years ago talking about the behavior they're involved in and how the oligarchs of Europe are pedophiles. Here it is.

The problem is that this oligarch, all of them, are related with the system of the pedophilia one. Because we know that there are more than 8 million children per year which they disappear. Eight million does mean the entire population of Austria. They disappear without any information, simply like that. So, I mean, there you go. This guy was a former top economist for these people, and then they try to, that's how he woke up. I mean, Roseanne? Well, I found out in 2008 with the HSBC Bank HACC Bank HECC,

remember that? And they hurriedly covered that all up. But it pretty much showed everything like Epstein and how the, you know, everything, that everything was one big, you know, coordinated, above all states, above all countries. It was a coordinated effort of super, super government, above all governments, run by pedophiles. And, you know, that's where all the money goes. That's a perfect term for the globalist. It's a super government. Yeah. And that's what they're into because they are canites. They are satanic. They believe in black magic.

They're predators. Yeah. They're psychopathic, sadistic child killers. And that's how they keep their blackmail going because that's what they do. That's how they've kept power for thousands of years is by, you know, making people do things even against their will or drug. A super predator class. A super predator Yeah. And that's who runs the world. So how can how can regular parents be expected to fight that? There's

no way to fight it unless we come together, talk, educate ourselves, and then join up rather than fight each other at every damn level that they've invented for us to disagree. I agree. Kathy O'Brien? Yeah. Well, well said, Roseanne. That is that that's absolutely beautiful. I know that this pedophile blackmail operation has been going on my whole life because I was used in it as a little bitty toddler. And haven't been deep in the swamp among these perpetrators, I know that they don't trust each other either. So they hold each other by the blackmail, so to speak. As more and more information comes out on these blackmail tapes, the Epstein Island,

the ditty tapes and everything else. We need to pay attention to who is at the top of this. Who is holding these blackmail tapes for what purpose? That's the important part we need to get to in order to, you know, take down this super government, as you've so brilliantly called it, and stop this pedophile agenda once and for all. Didn't you just say that someplace was raided with all these tapes, Kathy, you just wrote something about the hidden tapes.

I released a lot of information on the blackmail tapes that I'm aware of, and it's on my website and my blogs on the blackmail tapes and the blackmail vaults that I'm aware of. Oh, the FBI reports say that Zorro Ranch had houses full of hard drives. There was so many. in the course of my victimization, what I saw and witnessed, and even as a small child, my uncle was taking videos, blackmail videos, to the Vatican to store in their vault. So I'm acutely aware that everyone I knew knew about the blackmail vaults of the Vatican and that there was a complicity there.

So, you know, that's something we need to consider. That's right. Humanities waking up now, though. They've got a fight on their hands. Here is clip three, because I want to tie this in, and also we didn't play the Juliet Rose. Bryant will play that next. But first, this.

Remember what happened to Ann Hage? Yeah. She was exposing stuff. They grab her. They've got her in a body bag saying she's dead. The helicopter gets her busting out of it. They throw her back in and then say, oh, no, you never saw that. That ties in with them saying, oh,

Virginia Joufrey, she committed suicide, though she said she never would. And it just shows how it can be caught on helicopter. And I tell you, L.A. is so dangerous, folks. It's just full of this. The last place you want to be in my view, that or D.C. Here's footage from the archive of Ann Hasty. I want you to forget about.

This is the first time we're going to see this victim. It doesn't look that good, but it does look terrible. Because in and out she was dead, and then she pops out. And we'll just see if maybe they're just moving them out of there Or if they put them in an ambulance That's some sort of sign, but yes. So basically the activity that we were looking for, that anxious or that quick moving,

that was going on on the other side of the vehicle. Oh, my gosh. He's completely alive. And if you forget they said she was dead. She's in a body bag and bust out. And allegedly. Fighting for her life. Allegedly she had just had lunch with Ellen to generous.

Yeah. Meanwhile, this government tells you they love you so much. They supply limited fentanyl of the homeless. They farm them. They sign them up with NGOs and take most of the money from them. Here is... They are super predators and we are their prey. Here is Juliet Rose Bryant, another one of these Epstein Clinton victims. Being very clear, she's not going to kill herself. Here it is. My name is Juliet Bryant and a living Cape Town, South Africa.

I was kidnapped by Jeffrey Epstein 20 years ago. I am not suicidal and I never ever will be. I also do not do any drugs. I met Epstein when he was in Africa with Bill Clinton. We all know about the Clinton body count. Another concerning fact is that one of the main women, a very brave angel, Carolyn, who testified against Gillesne Maxwell,

was found dead six months ago. It wasn't in the media until a few days ago. The only reason it was put in the media was because of a very, very brave Epstein victim. She doesn't want to be named. But there are other Epstein victims who've also died suspiciously. Carolyn was a beautiful, amazing brave woman

who planned a life on a chicken farm with her family. Instead, she was found dead in a hotel room. I want to speak out for safety and for other victims because it's very frightening when the victim won't, I mean, the media won't cover any of the victim's stories. A lot of my story hasn't been told in the media, and it's the same with a lot of other victims. And we actually all feel quite frightened with everything that's been going on.

And as we know, this is not the first suspicious death related to the evil Maxwell Empire. They also used to run the media. So maybe that's why victim stories are not being told to the media, and the victims of Epstein feel very frightened. Please all pray for Carolyn's family. And thank you for listening. Incredible. And there you are, Kathy,

35 years ago, exposing the Clintons. And now it's all documented. Yeah. Yeah. It's time to see some justice. This has got to stop. There's so many people that have died in this process. How many more are going to have to die before we see some justice

and see this nonsense dismantled? And then we've got another problem. I'm going to break here right now. And I'm not trying to be dramatic. I'm just going to go ahead and say this on air, and I don't know what I'm going to do. Make sure you save that food, folks, because I'm getting the police involved. I got roofied about 10 years ago at a sushi restaurant and literally passed out on the street, wasn't even drinking. And then I told my daughter that works here, Charlotte, I told her, when you go get lunch, don't go to the same place more than twice.

I told her, you know, they figure out you're my daughter. We went to a restaurant about a week ago, and I said, you can't come back here now because they've seen you and they're, I can see leftists are working, they're looking at me back there. She went to get us lunch there today, and she's not a dramatic person, and literally ate the food, my food's in there, and she got violently ill, started to basically hallucinate. He says, it's clearly some drug, and it's totally sick right now.

and so we look we've got my food back there find what's left or hers i'm getting the police involved and the person recognized her and talked to her oh yeah your dad alishones and then that's how so they've got their satanic minions you're probably aren't even getting orders down on the ground everywhere uh and and imagine what they're doing to everybody's food that's well known this is the type of crap we deal with so this has happened the last hour oh my god yeah so that's what we're dealing with you know i i i I'm a believer in everything. I just think only God can stop it.

I just really believe that. Only God can stop it. And I do think that God hears our prayers. And I think he hears our collective prayers when we pray together. I think we can arouse him to feel mercy for us and help us. I totally agree. And I pray for that every single day because I know, especially in America, how close we are to losing our, you know, our beloved constitutional republic.

I agree. Well, imagine what Trump has to do to not be poisoned. I mean, another place that I sent people to, that they put staples in my food a month ago. And that's why I've told my assistance to people, I said, you've got to not ever have them figure out it's me. But just, I mean, they've caught them poison in Sean Hannity's stuff, all of it. And so, folks, this is what's going.

And, you know, I'm getting it tested and I'm going after them. because there's no doubt she got violently ill right after she saw and says like a drug she can barely she's here right now this is like a disaster that's horrible um no they never stop hey chase you've been the witness to it she she works with chase chase chase come in here no they never stop i mean they never stop even when they know they're beaten which they know they're beaten because trump got in but they still never stop and they never will we only have a minute to have left chase come on back in here real quick uh how's charlotte doing he's doing much better Come on over here.

Yeah, she's doing better. She just got sick and dizzy. She said she was hallucinating. Oh, my God. Put her feet up. We got our water and a wet towel. And about 30 minutes later, she started feeling better. Now she's watching the show just like everybody else.

And she doesn't drink. She doesn't smoke. She worked out with me for an hour this morning. I mean, we got to get this tested. Yeah. Did we have her food? Yeah, we got it. I want toxicologists.

I want the police department won't do anything at first. We got to get it proven. And I guarantee you this is what's going on. Well, you know, I'm going to say prayer for her and for all of us because we need some help. We need some, we need God to help us. I agree. I know what's not poison. You like the Methylene Blue? Oldsmethyline Blue? I do. Thank you. The Alpshoastore.com. Thanks for your support, folks. Kathy O'Brien, God bless you. Kathy O'Brien. God bless you. Join us,

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Kathy, God bless you and thank you. Love you. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. I appreciate. Love you too. Thank you.

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But here's her exchange that's gone mega viral on the underground cities. But I think that there, whether it's a pole shift, magnetic pull shift is one of the, you know, theories of what causes these events. But there is a history of near extinction events. And one of the things that I've looked at, because I'm trying to figure out, you know, between, Between fiscal 1998 and fiscal 2015, there were 21 trillion of undocumented adjustments in the U.S. government. If you go to our website, missingmoney.cellar.com, we have years and years of documentation, including the government financials that show this. And so the question is, where is all this money going? And one of the things I've looked at in the process of looking at where all this money is going is the underground base and city.

infrastructure and transportation system that's been built. I'm sorry? Yes. So we have built an extraordinary number of underground bases and supposedly transportation systems. Some of these are a record of, some of these are documented as part of the national security infrastructure. I think there are many more.

So in the United States? In the United States, all over the world. But from 2021 to 2023, I took one of the smartest subscribers in the Slear Report network, and he and I spent two years collecting all the data and all the allegations on underground bases. And then we systematically went through and tried to estimate our guess. This is totally a guess of how many underground bases. both underground in the United States, but also underground under the ocean around the United States.

And our estimate was 170, with the transportation network connecting them. And what would be the purpose? The purpose, if you thought you were going to get a near-extinction event, so to me there are two purposes. You have so many activities going on that you need to keep secret, that you're basically building the capacity to, for example, If you're doing a secret space program, you need to platform it from, you know, things that can't be seen.

But I think if you're worried about a near extinction event, you know, that's... So I know nothing about this. Other than my only window into it, I knew a contractor who worked on one in Washington, in the city of Washington, D.C. And I remember him telling me about a power box, like a transformer box on Constitution Avenue. that he told me, because he worked on it personally, was actually the exit, the egress from White House. That was kind of by vehicle. I thought that was, I was like, really?

He goes, oh, yeah, no, I installed it, I know. And I thought, well, that's kind of crazy. Then the middle of this big city where I live. I lived in that I was on Constitution Avenue every day. You could build something like that without me knowing it under the VP's house at the Naval Observatory. Same thing. I think most people know that next to my brother. house on McComb Street in D.C.

Also. So like, but that's, I was thought that was like preparation for nuclear war. Like, I didn't really think about it. Some of it is. Yeah. It's preparation for catastrophe. So, but you think that there are facilities like that in other places outside D.C.? Oh, yeah.

So if you're interested, we have a great interview. I did an interview of Richard Dolan on underground bases on the Salary Report. And it's sort of an introduction to the topic. And it's based on a lot of the research. of a guy named Richard Sauter, who is very hard to interview. So Richard kind of went through all the material. And, you know, clearly it's, I don't know if you ever saw, Washington posted a project. It was in 2010 or 12 called Top Secret America.

And one of the reporters, it was a team of two reporters, one of them put together a database of all the different top secret installations that had been built in the country, including since the Patriot Act. And what you saw was just this explosion of money and building so many both underground and above ground facilities. All right. We'll be back and lay out the best information we know on this. This is very important. Ultimate Life Force.

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Live from the InfoWars.com Studios, it's Alex Jones. All right. I've seen a lot of speculation and a lot of rumors flooding around since Catherine Austin Fitz, who did a great job, by the way, went on Tucker Carlson last week. They said we've tracked 21 trillion completely missing going into black budgets in just the last few decades. And a lot of it tracks back to underground bases cities. Now, folks know about the hotels outside D.C. and things that have entrances to underground railways, the Briar Green.

People know about Mount Weather, people know about Cheyenne Mountain, people know about Colorado Springs. Those are big underground, under mountain military command bases. But we know that they have secretive connections, pieces that have come out to underground transportation systems around the country. And I've talked to sources, high level, low level, you name it, that have been compartmentalized that did work on huge complex systems. under the Denver International Airport that connects out to the main nuke command base just down the road, Colorado Springs.

And I know people that worked on it, and it was the SAC command base, the alternate base, Berkshstrom International Airport was previously the B52 wing with the nuclear weapons. And they stored them in a big bunker under it and railways out to Fort Hood and under some of the smaller mountains out there. And so pieces of this have all come out. But when you talk about the magnitude of the money, then I was the first to report about five years ago, six years ago, I was out in Kauaii, and I was staying at a resort about five miles from Mark Zuckerberg, who just bought a bunch of property. And he pissed the locals off because he bought property around one of their sacred sites that was owned by them. and he said you can fly a helicopter over to it. I'm not going to give you right away to it.

And then so I started talking to engineers who were working on it, and all of them hated him. And the stories are out there I am in Hawaii talking about it, the fatter Alex Jones. And then again last year I was out there, and locals gave me footage they got flying over it in a helicopter, huge earth-moving equipment, huge bubble dome-like constructions over it. And they said he's got a big tunnel, and I'm on record.

all the way out to the ocean, like a supervillain, and there's these cliffs, and he's got a submarine out there, so no one knows what he's coming and going, to go out to one of his giant mega yachts that he keeps miles off. And I'm being told this, let's just say senior people's houses in Hawaii. They wanted to meet with me, because I'd already talked about it. So we broke that, and there was a minor blip, something we put out.

We'll try to, because I've talked about a lot, but we'll, because I just thought of this, the crew just thought of this. We'll try to find that while Dark Journal says on with us for the next hour of not. We'll find it and put it in post. But I, hell, I've still got it on my phone, too. I was given the video of flying over it, showing it, told what was in there. He now went on Theo Vaughn's podcast last week and said, oh, yeah, I got a big bunker and I got an underground tunnel. So, again, the point is, why is he doing that?

And it's gigantic. I mean, they've been building it five, six years, constant construction. they put these big giant like space domes up over it so you can't see what's going on inside of there so what's making him do that? So imagine if he is doing that on that scale

what others are doing and I've talked to some of the top people that are in underground destruction they say it's just been massive for 20 years and it's not just for nuclear war so why is this going on and we know out at Kauai alone there in the north, there's huge underground military bases that are totally secret. It's the main anti-missile defense system in the Pacific Ocean and also has nuclear weapons there aimed at China.

It's a main target. The average local doesn't even know that because the way the military comes into Kauai and out. So there's just one base there on the western side right at the foothills the mountain, but that's the entrance into it. Then you got Wah who's got China underground bases. That's all admitted. You see some of that in the most. Louis Snowden that documents the real world what he said was under there. That's just areas in Hawaii, giant underground bases in Kona, the Big Island.

And then it just goes on and on and on what we know. So yes, I think Fitz is accurate that trillions of this money has gone on an underground basis because there you can have the secret technology. You can do the more dangerous experiments. It ties into CERN and other large superconducting super colliders and more. We're talking to Daniel List, darkjournalist.com, leading expert on the entire breakaway civilization, shadow government. And then we're going to tie it into everything else coming out. The UK admitting they're doing geoengineering suddenly.

Kennedy coming out saying, we know the agency's doing it, DARPA. So as we learn more and more, and as the public learns more about shadow government, and as even Congress does, that's been growing in this national security labyrinth since 1947, this is really the ultimate awakening. And the ultimate class system is the scientific, mad scientist's death cult elite, taking our money, our resources, our developments, our innovations, and keeping what they want for them, life extension, you name it, and then giving us technology that's for control.

That's a basic gestalt of that. But let's go to this clip of Zuckerberg, and we'll go to Daniel West. I don't even know what I would have. I would have an underground tunnel, even that it came right back up next to where it started. I do have an underground tunnel. Do you really? Yeah. Yeah.

In USA? This ranch in Kauai. Yeah. Where there's this whole thing where people are like, there's this whole meme about how people were saying I built this like bunker underground. It's like more of underground storage. Bring it up. But yeah, no, it's a.

Oh, wow. Zuckie got that bulky. What's under the ground? There's more water, right? It's basically what you just said. It's sort of a tunnel that just goes to. to another building. Yeah.

It's a good place to hide a little bit of dope, though. That's what I would say, dude. How big is that tunnel? Is your tunnel pretty big, or what's it like? It's not that big of a tunnel. I put a reel on Instagram one day of Priscilla, kind of making fun of me, playing video games with some friends down there.

But it's, yeah, no, it's all good. Yes, definitely. But this is a crazy area. I haven't spent a lot of time. You know how the internet is. The internet will always make things seem like they're crazier than they are. But, you know, what's an under, I mean, in Hawaii, it's like having a little storm shelter underground tunnels. That's the thing right there?

No, I don't think so. That's insane. Is that Roblox? Who built it for you? It looks closer to Roblox than what the thing is. So, he knows this is coming out. This is a microcosm of what they're doing in general. limited hangouts, limited disclosures.

Dark journalists, thank you so much for being here with us. Take it away from whatever angle you want to start. Is there so much? Absolutely, Alex. It's great to be here with you. And those two clips actually cut right to the point, which is so much of the breakaway technology. Remember, the breakaway guys have a tremendous problem,

which is they need to come back to the public now. They've been developing this in the background in secret with our money for 80 years. And what do you do with that? And the history now, as we look into it, actually goes much further back in fact, but just in terms of the national security state, there you are. But the underground base part is fascinating because it's part of that hidden economy, the black budget economy that's been driving so many of the forces and making so many people in that deep state wealthy, but also creating a parallel structure. And this is one of the things that was warned of by people all the way from President Kennedy to President Reagan and others, that there would be a secondary government that would usurp the civil government on top, the overt government being challenged by this covert government. Well, there's a certain point where there's a lack of oversight,

and they take those secrecy rules that they developed during the Cold War and maximize them for this continuity of government program. That's where you got the massive building of underground tunnel network. and it was in tandem with Eisenhower building up the highway networks throughout America. And this is very important because when we look at how you would accomplish this kind of a thing, you need the infrastructure, you need the money. And so where does it come off? If it's not on the actual budget, it has to be coming out of this slush fund, black budget.

And that's where the heart of so much of this goes because, of course, so much of the money that's been missing that you referred to there at the top of the program comes directly out of the DOD, comes directly out of NASA, comes directly out of places and institutions like HUD inside the government. So without that real vetting of the government, you have this money just flying away, which is why the Doge thing is so interesting on a number of levels. And you have to be careful because of the amount of piggyback operations that happened.

So you could have a very, you know, a good effort on behalf of Doge on one side. and then something could get in there and piggyback and call that data. So you have to be very careful with a process like that. You need multiple oversights. But the thing that doesn't have any oversight is this underground structure. And it is vast. I've actually talked to people who have been a part of it. And, of course, they can't even tell their wives and husbands about the things that they see down there.

It's so super secret. But the only thing that they were able to relate to me is the vastness of it, the housing developments, the entire different world, the parallel universe that these people are living in. And of course, we had archetypes for this, Dr. Strangelove and everything else. But those people, when they get into that continuity of government mindset, they are thinking, we are the doomsday network. We're the ones who are going to survive.

This is our training. So when you have a guy up there like General Gio right now, and he's been very suspiciously in the middle of all these major events around drones and everything else, he was actually running the homeland synchronizer drone exercise during all the weird drone sightings in November and December. Well, for me, they're taking a lot of that information and putting it together so that they can create some kind of emergency powers cover for this and test that entire structure up. Because after all, you don't build the stuff for no reason.

Obviously, there's a good purpose for it. Originally, the purpose was laid out very clearly by Truman and Eisenhower. Well, we're doing it to survive a nuclear war. Well, that's a good reason, actually. But the problem is over the years, this got further and further outside of the control of Congress, the Senate Intelligence Committees, and others. And they were said, don't worry about it. We've got it covered. And by the way, your bunker is secured down there in case anything happens.

You're all set. Make sure you're not on the outs with all of this, as it were, and keep that money pouring in. It's so super secret, in fact, that when it came up at various times in the 80s and 90s in congressional session, they would shut down the session to make sure nothing of this got out. Now, they've started to be almost blazze, as you mentioned at the top of the program, about letting some of this out, just like they have these false UFO disclosure hearings in Congress and once lined up for May 12th. This is part of their program, which is to hijack the very things that they've been lying about and keeping from the American public. And we're seeing that with the geoengineering. Now that they know that Trump's getting ready to start bringing it out, as R.O.K. has said, even naming names of DARPA being the overall master planner. the Department of Energy in the Pentagon, they're not going, oh, yeah, sure, we're doing this

to keep you safe. So it's the exact same thing happening again and again. It is. And that's kind of also a shot across the bow there with the geoengineering aspect, because, as you know, there's been two parallel realities on that. You've covered it so intensely. And, you know, some of your original research around FEMA is very interesting because that's paying off now with the coverage of FEMA and the fact that they're trying to take some of that

budget out. This is very crucial because President Trump understands that FEMA is a major part of the influence of that continuity of government. Exactly. I mean, it's set up in the 70s as the COG parallel government. That goes to Colorado Springs and the alternate Congress building they have built underground there. And remember the Democrats said in a war game if Trump was going to win four years ago, Podesta said, we'll just go out to Colorado and have our own inauguration and have the blue states to see. They were talking about activating that and literally with the bureaucrats saying F you to the American people.

So they're, and again, they got lots of crises they could create. It could be for a nuclear war. It's got lots of uses. It could be for a comet strike, could be for a pole show. It doesn't matter, though, because they get to build their own secret empire to test technologies, do whatever they want, and play God. Exactly. And it's very interesting when you pointed out the Zuckerberg thing because he's like,

oh, that's just my COG tunnel. Don't worry about that. You know, the internet goes crazy on that. But, you know, COG tunnels are just normal stuff for us billionaires. So this is the absurdity of the whole thing. What's interesting, though, is how do they control this? There is an uncontrolled momentum to some of these things. And this is the nature of the problem.

You've been reporting on it for so long. We've done so many shows about the Black Budget, the continuity of government program, all the shows that we've done on the missing trillions and others. That is a foundation in people's minds. And now, you know, I can almost call it the year of 2025 is when dark journalism breaks because now this is getting around on so many different levels. The issue is to make sure that the intelligence groups don't hijack the narratives for their own purposes. And this is where we've come to at this point where they're looking at it and they're saying, well, you know, people like Alex Jones, people like Tucker and all the rest of it are letting this stuff out. We have to get in there and we have to manipulate people like Carlson or manipulate people on these different programs and start to say, well,

I'm the UFO whistleblower. I'm the guy who came in. I'm the guy who's going to switch this over. And instead of actually going through the talk show hosts and things like that, now they're going to Congress. And they just asked there for a billion dollars for this UFO defense office for openers. And what's going on is they're taking some of the people who work in a counterintelligence program, who are DOD billionaires, who have been a part of this continuity of government effort. And it's interesting when you look at the continuity of government.

COG because all of those people, and I bring this to light, it's very much based on the work of Professor Peter Dale Scott, who over 50 years tracked these people. But it's very interesting because what he found was that at every deep event in America, some of these COG emergency powers players would show up. They just happen to be right in the heart of it, whether it was the financial coup, COVID, you know, recently with the assassination attempt on President Trump in the summer, that was, you know, the Secret Service Director. She herself had been part of COG. So the personnel is involved.

They're always, of course, during the JFK assassination all the way back to that. And Watergate with John Dean, who was a major player inside of continuity of government networks. And then ends up taking Nixon down and along with all the Reagan people. And you build that in the same. So when they need to, they basically come out of the COG deal and exercise their power. And they give them even more power. Most people leave in the government aren't even aware there's a whole parallel system. But notice Elon doesn't do anything unless it's scalable and unless it's going to be used in society.

So people look at this boring company and they say, oh, well, you know, what's that for? Well, I mean, obviously he's not the first person. I mean, we know 40 years ago they had giant nuclear-powered underground boers to build all this stuff. And we know those were purchased. We know they're down there. So it looks for me like Elon's trying to again mainstream and start kind of. the emergence of this, and we know his boring company has government contracts, so that's a interesting place to look.

Absolutely. And it's very interesting with Elon, and the position that he operates in the middle of all this is quite fascinating. A lot of people have suggested, well, he's there to make the smart cities fashionable, and there's a certain amount of agreement with that. And yet, he's going right to where the heart of the matter is when it comes to the underground aspect as well, because if you do have a parallel government operating from underground, how do you set up something to oppose their strength at that point?

And that's a battle that goes all the way back to Eisenhower when he wasn't getting regular briefings from Area 51, which is the most famous underground center. But I'll tell you, it can't be on any level now that we all know about it. So where would all that secret infrastructure go? One of the main candidates that I've found for this is a town in Pennsylvania called Moon. And I've done a lot of shows and investigations around this.

And it's quite fascinating because they were set up all the way from World War II as a layer of a secondary government being built there. And you'll find that a lot of very interesting things happen in relation to Moon Township. It's right where the Pittsburgh International Airport is and everything else. A much better candidate for underground infrastructure than what we have in Area 51, where everybody knows about it. You know, the Russians can run their satellites over it and everything else. Well, Moon is a very obscure place, but it's definitely related hardcore to the UFO file, and this is important because those secrets, the way that that operates, the underground bunkers, the continuity of government planning, the secrecy around that can be flipped into areas like the UFO file. So the UFO file becomes the hottest and the highest national security secret that we have. How does that relate, then, you say, to this whole thing?

Well, it's very unusual. If you look at Moon, Moon, in fact, President Ford, as soon as President Nixon resigned, his first speech was in Moon University, was right in Moon Township. And then all of these things happen, and every presidential candidate has to go to Moon Township. So there's some kind of centralized piece in there in terms of the technology. And if you look deep into the infrastructure that's there, Moon is an excellent candidate for the type of secret underground works that we're talking about. And also it is surrounded by that terrain of unusual events, including the Kaxburg UFO incident, which took place close by. And oddly enough, the attempted assassin of President Trump, the one who disappeared so quickly, and wasn't even him with Thomas Matthew Crooks, he was going. He was planning to attend at the university there in Moon Township.

So there's a number of unusual things. And of course, the people in Moon Township are great. I've met some of them. It's just this very interesting kind of glow around the place in terms of underground operations. Another very interesting place, I'd say in relation to this, of course, you mentioned Colorado. They've been planning this as the secondary backup D.C., as it were. And when you mentioned pedestrian there, I can't help but. And let me just add.

I mean, it's on record, folks, that the backup government is in Colorado Springs and Denver. And then when we talk about it, they go, oh, the crazy people, they have jokes all over the airport. Oh, yeah, right. Meanwhile, it's all on record. It's all there. It's just secret. Yeah, and they did some things with the international airport aspect. They put the imagery there in the beginning, and they must have known that a number of people were going to pick up on it. So they were using it as a deflection, and yet that artwork is very much the steganography that if you look at it, you can see a suggestion of a much larger plan. Now, if you look at CERN, it's quite interesting because CERN put out. a series of visuals very much like the Denver airport and something called the CERN tarot deck.

And CERN operates completely underground. You know, I've talked to scientists and everything else. None of CERN has to be underground. So this suggests something very, very unusual going on with CERN. They are now, just the one that they have is a 17-mile radius that goes down hundreds and hundreds of feet of tunnels. But what's interesting is the one that they're planning, and I did put a shot of this up on my X feed. I'll try to see which one of this that is for you, but it's quite interesting because the one that they're planning is so much

bigger than the one that's there. And we already know with the unusual. We have it. I'll have the crew of an overhead shot. Overhead shot and I'll show him what he's talking about. Keep going. Yeah, that's one of those interesting things for me, because when you look at what's going on with CERN, we're looking at something which is an unexplained project. And, you know, it's typical

explanation we understand very, very well. So it's got this, you know, we're going to find the Higgs-Boson and all the rest of it. But CERN is very compelling because it brings us over into a parallel portal technology structure, which isn't on the record, isn't something that people talk about. Even when we talk about warp drives, when we talk about different types of... Sure, always what we're told something is for is never its main function, but just look right here. Here's the gravity you want to guess. So they've already got the biggest superconduct ladder they say there, but now the one of the

want to build is just gigantic. It is. And what's interesting is, again, scientists have objected to the pole, what they call the pull on the ionosphere when CERN is turned on. And just look at the size of that secondary one and the construction that's going on deep, deep underground, budgeted billions of dollars every year. And, you know, when you look at the background of CERN, it literally and legitimately raises a number of questions about where that money is going and what they're doing with it. they're also the number one user of the internet, for example. Well, notice how they're interconnected, too.

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Discover trends and global developments years before they happen right here. on the Alex Jones show. We're showing you some of the footage that CERN puts out, and there's also in movies. But when they opened it, they did all these weird pagan satanic rituals. And it's like skull and bones type stuff out there at night. A lot of theoretical physicists and quantum mechanics experts have said that things are imminently dangerous. And strangelets, black holes. yes, they can create those.

Yes, those have been done in underground bases that they admit exist. China has created artificial suns on the surface. They said that's even more dangerous and launched them publicly. But if you tell people that at a cocktail party, they go, hey, that's Star Trek. No, we're in the future. It's just not evenly distributed. And obviously real power by elites would be to keep this from people. So we reverse engineered 30 years ago, the geoengineering, the big widespread stuff.

they always divert to like little local boutique groups. You're making more snow for a ski resort or making it rain, you know, for the farmers. And then you've got 30-something states passing laws or on the verge of passing laws to ban geoengineering. Florida just did it. So there is a curiosity acceleration and a discovery of this and a decompartmentalization happening at every level. and again there are definitely different competing factions and technological groups. We have to look at what other governments have. China hides a lot. Russia on record has a larger budget for underground cities and bases than we do.

I don't think that's actually true, but those are admissions. So much of this is admitted, but it's not admitted in the grand scheme. There's a piece here, a piece there, a piece here, a piece there. But you integrate it all together. This is huge. And as our guest, our journalist, Daniel, this was saying, with the underground bases. Just an example out of Area 51 other areas,

that's where they have the secret craft, the space planes, take off at night, so you can't see them, and then they go into underground bunkers during the day. So it's obvious 101 concealment, really, at the most base level. Daniel, please continue. You send us a lot of other exhibits, too. Nicola Tesla here, we got crop circle,

We've got the Superconduct Supercalia. We've got Exhibit 4. It looks amazing. I mean, just take us wherever you want to go. Yeah, these are very interesting. That is part of the CERN tarot deck. First of all, I think it's unusual that CERN did a tarot deck. We did a number of shows on it.

And their symbolism is very interesting because the things that they draw in are the technology that never got revealed to the public, the things that came through the Macy conferences and others. All of the stuff that went black. That's part of the whole black budget and actual black ops work. And this is what they didn't want to reveal to the public. They didn't want their enemies to snatch it up. They had a number of reasons. But after a while, it just became, no, we don't want to share this with the public, but we do want to use the public's money developing it.

And this is where the psychological problems and the kind of schizophrenic nature of the culture, as it is right now, developed on this level. So here we are with it. And the problem really for them is when they develop this doomsday network, And they selected a carefully vetted cadre to bring this out. They're not sharing the main stuff. Even those who think that they're really in the know on the COG thing. COG is so ultra-secret and concerns such a deep knowledge that they have the top scientists.

They're budgeted billions of dollars every year. And they have amazing facilities throughout not just all of North America, but of course in other places like Pine Gap. So when you crisscross that level of secrecy and then you try to have a government with oversight on it, there's a, there's a huge, huge problem. And we've seen it in the public clashes over everything, you know, they're doing the hearings in Congress over the UFO file. Well, let me tell you, those hearings won't go anywhere because they hit that brick wall of this national security state, which operates deep, deep in that system. And when that system starts to talk and say, we're going to bring this out, hey, you can find out about underground

bases, hey, you can find out about the UFO file. That means they've found a way to bring it to the public that preserves their place and allows them to spin a false narrative. And that false narrative is very dangerous because the one that they're playing with now is actually a human origin story. And that goes to the heart of religion. It goes hard to the spiritual matters. And what they're trying to do really is give you a totally different origin story. They have not figured out, in my opinion, with the detail that they've rolled out exactly what the public will accept. So on one hand, they're dealing with this anomalous thing that they're dealing with on the UFO side. And of course, the UFO file, they've been able to run through almost a century of information of analyzing that.

The public has very little info, very little stories, incidents that have happened, things that have been covered up. And so when we look at the UFO file, what we're seeing is the actual secrecy that's driving the society in the background. because where is all the money going for the redevelopment of those programs? And you have to do it outside of the eyes of all of your potential spies and all the rest of it. So you're going deep, deep underground when you get into the UFO file and the redevelopment of that project. Now, there are stories that when they were laying out things like Mercury Nevada, and there's actually pictures of this, that they found intense, intense technology. They found structures and they found tunnels and adopted them, meaning someone else was here much, much earlier, doing the same thing. And when you look at organizations and structures in the past, like Balbeck, for example, well, the Romans came across all this in Lebanon and said, well, this is great.

We'll just build a temple of Jupiter on top of it. But when archaeologists went down, they found an incredible, incredible underground structures. And they were tunnels that ran for miles, but nobody knew who built them. because it looked like they went back. And now we know there's all sorts of stuff, just as the ancients said, under the Great Pyramid Complex. Exactly. That's the SAR radar.

That is the breakthrough. We just did a documentary on that called Pyramid X because, in fact, a lot of mystery school information from the Steiner work to the Casey work talks about Pyramid X being beneath the structure of Giza and how Giza is a much, much older structure than 2,500 BC, for example. It's interesting because the way that they place it, and Casey in particular, puts the pyramid at 10,500 BC. But when they asked him while he was in trance, you know, well, how did they select that spot? And he said, oh, they were doing archaeology.

So how old is this plateau there at Giza? And why is it such the central spot for this ancient repository of the knowledge of humanity? See, in that sense, these things go together because if we had a culture, and I know very often it goes directly to an ancient aliens type thing. It doesn't need to necessarily because you could look at it and say this Atlantean technology was so high and so advanced. Yeah, they may have had help for sure, but it was so high and so advanced that we are barely catching up to it now. And this is the real disclosure, the real kind of awakening around the whole thing. What they're trying to give us instead is a kind of Ananaki have run the show and, you know, a potential different line to a human origin story. And this is

where I think the clash is in all of that. But really, we're just the wild humans that have been living up here on the surface. Exactly. Yeah, who's really running the show? I think it's a legitimate thing to look at everything that's gone on, let's say, in the past five years

and just say, who was really running this? You know, who ran? There's an example from the movie Oppenheimer came out of years ago, and, of course, a lot of its accuracy of it isn't from history that we know, but instead of building a giant underground base, So then they just went to the middle of New Mexico mountains and built their own base in secrecy. So that's just an example of have it away from people, control it.

And with these underground bases, we know, they make most of the people work three, four months at a time before they even get out for a month. These scientists, that way they can also monitor and control people. Absolutely. And think about it this way. And this is kind of, if you listen to some of the stories, the most extreme stories on the UFO side, think about Dulcy, for example. Dulcey, New Mexico is the most famous underground base for its alien activity, but nobody knows and hasn't been able to get in there. It's just this government-run facility. And at a certain point, there were so many UFOs coming out of there in the 40s and 50s that the Native Americans around that entire mountain structure started to come to like, you know, give greetings and all this kind of stuff because they were coming from a totally different star visitor mentality.

So whatever was going on there, a number of contractors came forward in the 90s and the 2000. thousands and said, when we were doing our own digs in there, we ran into something else, and then we actually were engaging with a different type of human being. So whatever you want to believe there, they could have been aliens, they could have been, you know, what they call the tall whites or whatever they have to be, but very often the story comes up over and over again that they're accompanied by our military people. So there's something, there's certainly something going on. I think it raises a question, regardless of your belief system or where you think this stuff is coming from. It raises the question of

who is the highest level of operation there. Well, I asked you this question last time, and I know none of us have all the answers, but we can piece a lot of it together. Why did the United States get so far ahead of everybody other than the Germans and did everything that we've now built

the ancients right about basically the exact same thing from people that were in ancient India, just all over? So how did ancients just magically guess exactly how this look and how it worked if it didn't exist before. Yeah, exactly. This is an excellent point.

And the thing about the United States being ahead, there are a few reasons there. There was a consolidation of brain power. There's no doubt about it. But also, I think they had the jump because early, very early on, a group from Germany came over here and were already advanced on the airship side. You know, there's a lot of research around this. NIMSA is the name of the group. But that early airship group, I think, is quite fascinating. We've included them in our documentaries and the people who've written about them.

And they involve the whole thing about this artist, Del Schau, and the things that he created in terms of drawing those arrows, which are far more advanced than anything that we had available at that period in time. If you look into something called the Cosmos Club, which I've suggested before, is the UFO Bilderberg. It's still there in D.C. It's members still pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to be part of it. and they still have the most elite scientific minds. But I think there was a point where they were at a real zenith. But if you look at that group, it started in the 1870s. And it started with a guy who was basically a nobody who discovered the Grand Canyon and did this whole thing.

Well, it's very unusual because the whole track of that became the center of all the people who were interested in the UFO file from Heinek, the highest level of government people who were behind the scenes photographing it, Richard Bissell and others. and unusually people like President Kennedy and others quit. They didn't want anything to do with the Cosmos Club because of the secrecy. Cosmos Club hosted Carl Sagan. They had a whole series on UFOs on the surface, and they would talk about the most elite things in terms of science. Right in the heart of that, though, is the person who developed it in the beginning,

John Wesley Powell. And it's very unusual because you have to wonder, what is it that he discovered out there in the Grand Canyon, long, long time ago, 1870, that he would bring back and become the toast of Washington. They would establish the Cosmos Club, and it would become the center for all this elite activity, including the Millons, including the Rockefellers and everything else.

That's where I think the technological edge is. And of course, like all good steganography, it's sitting right out there in public. And they can always say, we're just a group that gets together in meets. I'm not so sure how much power they have at this point, but they formed a central nexus for developing and talking about the UFO file in public while doing it outside of the venue of the public discourse.

So they could go underground and talk about these things, come back up, have their tea and say, we talked about UFOs, astronomy, alien life on Earth and all the rest of it. But all of the major people were involved there. So the Cosmos Club, I think, is a major key. The other thing that's odd is the founder, even though he was around in the 1870s, he was stationed during the Civil War in Cape Girardo for five years. and Cape Girardo is the site of the first, you know, six years before Roswell, the first major crash and retaliation and crash retrieval. So when we look at this type of history, we can connect some of those dots that this is older.

So I think America got ahead of it because they were ahead in the 19th century. So by the time it hits as a major wave in 47, it actually hits a little bit earlier with the Ghost Rockets in Europe and Food Fighters and everything else. But if you really look at it from that point of view, we had really developed the RAD lab here. And the RAD lab included Vannever Bush and included John Trump and others. These people were experts on the secrecy side so much so that the Army came to them and said, can we adopt some of your secrecy methods. And the RAD lab, they were developing the most important thing in the world at the time, the Manhattan Project. But it was the physicist, Sarbarker, who was rubbed out of history, who said,

Well, yeah. Well, the nuclear thing was the highest secret, but you know what? The very highest was the UFO file. That's the key. That's the separation in history that we need to get to. That's the chapter of our history we've been left out of. It's a pretty major chapter. It doesn't have a lot of easy answers either. But I'll tell you one thing, the hearings that they're doing in Congress in relation to this come right to the heart of the misimony, come right to the heart of the underground bases. If they get stiffed, which a lot of intelligence people and CIA people talking to Congress and saying, oh, we need. money for our research for Avi Loeb and his, you know, science lab over here at Harvard, I'm telling you, then that whole thing is going to be a waste. But, in fact, the congressional hearings offer the best opportunities to open up the entire subject around the underground bases. And a good way to get people thinking about it and shadow government and super government and mad science projects as a geoengineering. Now, since you mentioned Trump's uncle, Trump's rarely talked about this, he got questioned about this just as interview was ending by Glenn back a few weeks ago

here's a club you know the one thing I didn't ask you that I really want to ask you just first how crazy is it that you're working with can you can just roll this this just let me put this back on this just this is just a person thing

how how crazy is it that you are working with Elon Musk today's Tesla Yeah, absolutely. And when Tesla died, it was your genius uncle that was sent to try to figure out what papers should be captains.

How crazy is that? So my uncle was a great, brilliant man, my father's brother. My father was working very hard to put my uncle through MIT and all that. And when my uncle graduated, he was so brilliant that MIT said, why don't you stay here become a professor? That's crazy. Which is pretty good. Three different degrees. which really was amazing.

But as he went through life, he was very successful as a professor at MIT, but he was also very successful at other things, like discovering genius things. And the United States government gave him an assignment of finding out whether or not Mr. Tesla was the real deal, or was he not the real deal? In other words, was he really great,

or was he just an average guy? And my uncle did a report on it, And you know what was nice? He said he was really great. A lot of people in that position would be jealous. Yeah. But he actually said he was great. And here you are.

Working with today's Tesla. That's right. That's so great. And Elon's a great guy too. Yeah. Great guy. Thanks. Thank you.

You back. Very cryptic. Unbelievable. I mean, that's incredible. What's your response to that? Well, the body language, I think, is very telling also, which is he is caught off guard by the question. and he is often used.

He starts looking down. Trump starts, like he's trying to not, yeah. Yeah, that's pretty unusual. He's looking like, I don't want to really, he's acting very guarded for Trump. Absolutely. And it's fascinating because Trump, you know, he knows a lot about the UFO file deep, deep in there. But John Trump was being mentored by Vannever Bush who ran the UFO file. So, you know, you can't get, you have Uncle John at the crisscross between the Tesla information and the UFO file.

That's why when you have Trump walk into this political situation, you know, you could say, well, people resist him for this or for that. But really, that deep state structure, if he is on the same level with them eye to eye and says, I know about this. My uncle worked for Banderford Bush. I know about the UFO file. That's a big problem for them because they strive to keep the presidents out of that entire process. when the presidents go and meet with their Russian counterparts, they always are trying to play CIA in state. And that's all come out.

That's what they wanted Nixon out, the most popular president in the last hundred years, poll-wise, because he's like, I'm the president. And they're like, no, you're not. Kennedy, I'm the president. Really, boom. In the time we've got left,

you sent a bunch of other really interesting exhibits. What is exhibit, too? What is this? How does this tie into it? And then you also sent this other really interesting exhibit. What is this block of interesting-looking stuff? And then we've got, you know, you've got this, I think you already mentioned this,

but just what are some of these exhibits? This is so important. This was discovered. There was an mound in Florida. This is what I think is the actual two-eye Atlantean power grid network. There's an ancient copper plate that was discovered there. And it's quite fascinating because they didn't know what to do with it. It was completely out of anything that they had seen before.

Native Americans hadn't done anything like this. This was so advanced. and it represented geometrical principles, electromagnetic principles, and it sounded just like what Casey was talking about when he was talking about the Atlantean 2-Eye power grid. And it looks like nothing we've seen from any culture on Earth. I mean, it looks like sci-fi from the 60s.

Yeah, this thing is estimated to be 6,000 years old. All right, but it's probably a lot older, frankly. But I found in Florida, again, and there's all those rumors always about that hot zone area around the Bahamas and all that being the last place where Atlantis went down and the fleeing survivors going into Mexico and going into Florida and making their way up to Ohio. And it's interesting because one of the things I put up there is the serpent mound in Ohio, one of the first major underground structures.

And one of the things that they haven't been able to figure out about the mound builders is why did they build the mounds like this? And the idea is that whatever it was that was happening, whether they caused it or it was a natural occurrence, they had taken all the protection off the sun, and the mound builders had gone then underground. This is the first antecedent of that underground culture. What did they discover under there? Well, it's weird because when you study what's taken place in terms of underground,

there are all these things that we rely on that have been discovered in relation to telluric current, for example. We got the telegraph. They stationed them along to luric current levels, and all these maps show exactly where to place the telegraph line. This is very interesting because that side of the serpent mound is where a comet hit, and it had a very high end level of magnetite. And if you go into that history, you're going to find all those ancient cultures where whenever a comet would hit, it would become an ultra centralized holy site. Well, that's the same thing with Mecca. Yes, exactly. They have it.

They have all those flashes of an asteroid and flex of it, and you have part of that even all the way into King Tut's Tomb. and all the rest of it, they found a knife that was a piece of a comet. So there's this worship of these objects that come in from the solar system. There's a reason for that. But the magnetite in particular, I think, is interesting because it shows a scientific knowledge about what's happening there. That's why they're attracted to it as well. And we still don't know exactly what's happening there in terms of ancient technology and the ability for them to do things like that. If you look at it, the way the traditional history plays, it doesn't make any sense.

because the older, more advanced cultures could do things like the pyramids and all the rest of it. You get just a few thousand years, you know, a few hundred years after that, forget it. They don't even know how to make pyramids anymore. So something happened. The technology was taken out of circulation and this idea of underground really goes very, very far back. So I think when we're looking at it like that, we get a much better idea from looking at ancient structures and the type of ancient technology that was in play. and when you see that, you say some advanced group was here already, whatever they were doing with the technology,

whatever wars were taking place, for example, that's what set everything upside down, and we've rediscovered. Remember, this is a process not so much of discovery. We're rediscovering so many of these things. Sure, and then you've got all the Vedic, 3,000-year-old stuff out of India, and I've read those. I mean, it sounds like the script of Star Wars.

All these big metal ships flying around space and giant fireballs, you know, it sounds like, you know, and nukes, it's basically what's described. And then you've got, it's just fascinating, absolutely fascinating. Well, the good news is public sentences just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And the more that people are decompartmentalized, the more we're going to learn, darkjournalist, darkjournalist. Darkjournalist.com on YouTube, Dark Journalist. Daniel List, always amazing. Thank you so much for the time.

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He predicted it before Biden even stole it four plus years ago. That's coming up to about six minutes. But I want to go back to the ongoing press conference with the ultra-racist, South African communist president, who said last week, BBC headlines, the white farmers trying to leave our treasonous. They must stay behind so they can be punitive.

And so there can be revenge. His government said that as well. He tells Trump, oh, nobody's ever heard a white person. There's nothing happening there. And then Trump shows a bunch of videos of his party and his leadership saying kill all the white people, shoot them, stab them, chase them down, murder them, never let them escape. Just unbelievable. And then the corporate media attacking Trump and saying it doesn't exist.

Let's go back to that press conference. Please know we have a self-up question, Mr. President Trump. If they're committing genocide, I'm going to the white house. I'll be quiet, sure. That's my question, though. Let's go. Thank you so much.

President Trump, and at the last one from ENCA in South Africa. Thank you very much for hosting us. What would you like President Ramaphosa to do about the situation that we just seen on the screen? I don't know. I don't know. Look, these erroneicals over the last few days, death of people.

Death, death, death, death. horrible death he's literally hosting him for us now I don't know but you know white South Africans are fleeing

because of the violence and racist laws he needs a doc Kim and this is all I'll give these to you so when you when you say what would I like to do

I don't know what to do look at this white South African couples say that they were attacked violence and they're taboo you all and see what you're

well I can do that Look, here's burial sites all over the press. These are all white farmers that are being... He just showed video of their leadership with hundreds of thousands of sports stadiums saying, kill all the wives. You know, you are so bad. You're such a bad report.

You're very much. Why is the president? Mr. President Trump? This is one after another. This family was wiped out. I'm just looking. People ask why do we still have the corporate media around? Why does Musu interviews?

with the corporate meeting because it just shows how sick they are, but at a certain point, it's repetitive. It is incredible. Let's go back to it. I mean, how does it get worse? And these are people that are officials, and they're saying that kill the white farmer and take their land. That's what it goes. And I have other friends in South Africa, I have people that left, one in particular that says it's, you can't go there. He said they want to take your land, they take your land, and they kill you. It's okay. And they say it's okay. to do. Now, we're going to talk about it. But this is a tremendous

look, this is a story of recent. These are all people that recently got killed. And I don't know how it can get any worse. These are a particular. And you know, the man that you saw in the people that you saw in that movie, those are officials. Those are people that were in office. They had

one march, they had a dance in your parliament, whatever you may call it, legislature. Let me clarify that because what you saw, the speeches that were being made, one, that is not government policy. We have a multi-party democracy in South

Africa that allows people to express themselves, political parties to adhere to various policies, and in many cases, or in some cases, those policies do not go along with government policies. But is government

You just passed the law to take all the whitesland. It's completely, completely against what he was saying. No, that's not true. All right, let's go to break. We'll come back and a little bit more of this idiot's answer. Let's pause it because it's still going on, but we're pausing it, so it's not live right now. This is unbelievable. Normally with any other guests, I'd move them, but Rogers's got two important stuff to cover.

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Well, if you just now tuned in, or you've not been watching the White House live feed, this is historic. This is right up there with Zelensk, getting publicly spanked by President Trump and J.D. Vance a few months ago. You've got the ultra-racist, globalist,

South African president, I mean, coming to the White House saying, please don't put sanctions on us. No, no, no, we've never harmed a white person. We love them. And you've got his big party conventions. This goes on constantly. We have hundreds of these. And the other major parties all saying we're going to chase down the whites. We're going to kill them. We're going to take their land. We're going to chase them out of the country. And then when they try to leave, this president just this week, said they're treasonous.

That Trump is bad. How dare them take less than 100 of them in? they need to face justice, they need to face revenge. These are all quotes. By his party, official ex-account, statements this guy's made. They just passed laws last year to take all the white farmers' land with them in the domain. And then he sits there with the corporate media and acts like Trump's insane. And none of this is going on. So Trump shows a video compilation and of it being.

said by the different major parties, including the president's party with his vice president. And he goes, well, that's a political event. That does represent the policies. Our policies are the exact opposite. He just said that. We went to break. We stopped it. Let's go back a little bit more than we're going to Roger Stone.

In South Africa, that allows people to express themselves, political parties to adhere to various policies. And in many cases, or in some cases, those policies do not go along with government policy. Our government policy is completely, completely against what he was saying, even in the parliament. And there are a small minority party, which is allowed to exist in terms of our constitution. But you do allow them to take land.

No, no, no, no. You do allow them to take land. Nobody can do that. they take the land, they kill the white farmer. And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them. No. There is quite... Nothing happens to it.

There is criminality in our country. People who do get killed, unfortunately, through criminal activity, are not only white people. The majority of them are black people. And we have now... The farmers are not black. I don't say that's good or bad, but the farmers are not black. and the people that are being killed in large numbers, and you saw all those gravesites,

and those are people that loved ones going, I guess on a Sunday morning they told me, to pay respect to their loved ones that were killed, their heads chopped off. They died violently, and, you know, I mean, we're here to talk about it, and I didn't know we'd get involved here, but I will say this,

that if the news wasn't fake, like NBC, which is fake news, totally one of the worst, ABC, NBC, CBS, horrible. But if they weren't fake news like this jerk that we have here, if we had real reporters, they'd be covering it, but the fake news in this country

doesn't talk about that. They don't want to talk about it, but now they have to talk about it, but they won't. This won't even be a subject. They'll have him talking about why did a country give a free thing of this? Why did a country give an

airplane to the United States Air Force. Okay? The United States, not to me, to the United States Air Force so they could help us out because we need an Air Force One until our sets Air Force One, it's being built. Two of them being built. But Boeing's

a little bit later, unfortunately. So why did they give us a plane to the United States Air Force? That's what that idiot talks about. After viewing a thing where thousands of people are dead. I'm sorry, I don't have a plane to give you. I wish you did.

I would take it. If your country offered the United States Air Force a plan, I would take it. Okay. But coming back to this issue, which I really would like us to talk about, and talk about it very calmly. We were taught by Nelson Mandela that whenever there are problems, people need to sit down around a table and talk about them. And this is precisely what we would also like to talk about,

including, of course, trade matters, investment matters. So the issues that concern you as the United States, those are all deaths. In many ways, I mean, one should say you are a partner of South Africa. Well, Trump is conducting an info war now. Every day from the White House of these press conferences, exactly what I say you should do. This is amazing.

We're going to stop this year. We'll get to this later, obviously, and all the other news, but I've got Roger for the full hour, and I don't want to have him sitting there waiting. He just got back from giving huge speeches in the Dominican Republic there in the Caribbean on the edge of the Atlantic Ocean and the island formerly known as Hispaniola. And I want to get his expert take on the current state of the administration in the world,

his grading of the Trump administration. He'll always give you his accurate assessment. But the first big issue I want to talk about with the former top political advisor of President Trump, is a long-time confidant of like, 46, 7 years, is Roger Stone of Stonezone.com, popular talk show host, as well and good friend of mine and former co-host, Owen, Schroier of the war room, and also we, brothers in arms, as being politically targeted by the deep state. Roger, this auto-pin thing that Trump keeps hammering, the corporate media only focuses

on the media and the Democrats lying about Biden's cognitive massive decline. We talked about it when he was running by. and a half, six years ago and got you and I attacked. It was clear then. It's gotten a lot worse obviously since. But everybody's focusing on, oh, the Jake Tappers now, got a bestselling book about when he helped

cover it himself, the scandal is, you know, the conservatives patting ourselves in the back that we could see a vegetable and didn't believe the media. That to me is a total distraction from the fact that Biden wasn't the president and it was a rule by committee with Obama and others and the chief of staff

and that it's totally. It's totally illegal and Trump keeps hammering this. No one else seems to. Most conservatives are populists take debate on this. Oh, look, the media admits he was cognitive decline. Now we're vindicated as if we need them to vindicate us. But Trump says treasonous thugs who will

pay. Joe Biden, again, was not the president. His actions are illegal. This is treason of the highest level. It's all true what President Trump is saying. But I'm normally obviously going to focus on what's coming next with you because you're such, you know, so accurate.

And we'll get to that. But to know what's happening now in the future, you got over the past, I remember you in the last few months of the election in 2020, on air but also privately. And on air explaining how it would be ruled by committee, how Biden was being put into be a total puppet, how Obama was already getting his new White House down the street, and who would be running it.

And then we get undercover O'Keefe Media Group videos of the deputy chief of staff admitting all this recently. We have all this evidence, so I want to go back to how you knew that. And you told me at the time and confidence. You said Trump is going to win, but it's not going to be enough. He had a landslide in 2016 that overpowered the baked-in fraud that they have around 10%. And you said, he's going to lose about a month before. And I said, really, you said, yeah, watch.

He's going to really win, but it's not going to be big enough. This time, you said privately a few months before than not before. No, he's going to win. It'll be even bigger landslide than 2016, which it was. He won the popular and the electoral college. You nailed it again. So it's not about kudos. It's about, you know what you're talking about.

How did you know all this first? I mean, people are patting themselves in the back that said he was a vegetable a year ago. And then moving forward from that, what should the ramifications be of this and what should the pathway be to accelerate the dismantling of this deep state? So Roger Stone, thank you for joining us, and you've got the floor. Please take us back to four and a half, five years ago and how you knew that, and then walk us through who was really running things? Because everybody's saying, okay, Trump's saying, who ran the auto pin? That's the president.

Well, we actually know it was a committee, but you knew it before it even happened, Roger. Yeah, look, it was an open secret, Alex, in political circles that Joe Biden was around the bend, even when he was running in 2020. Let's remember that Barack Obama tried to prop up Cory Booker, he tried to prop up Pete Buttigieg. He tried to prop up various candidates. That could not be done. And ultimately, they ended up through the process of elimination with Joe Biden, largely because Joe Biden was completely controllable. Not only was there the issue of his non-functionality.

but also the Obamas were well aware of the mass corruption that Joe Biden had engaged in as vice president, and they knew he was controllable. Then the media asked us to ignore what we could see with our own eyes, the fact that he could barely finish a sentence. He would just kind of trail off. Numerous neurologists told me that was a clear sign of the onset of senile dementia, the fact that he would talk to people who didn't exist, that he would constantly fall down,

that he couldn't figure out how to exit stage last, stage right, the fact that his wife had to jump in and answer questions for him in any intense interview, was very clear to anybody, including reporters, that there was nobody home. Now they tell us last Friday that days before that he got a diagnosis of a serious aggressive prostate cancer. But actually he blurted out in an interview in 2022

that he was fighting about cancer. So which is it? Was this a new diagnosis or was he telling the truth in 2022? It is shocking, but let's get down to the who here because the part that never made sense to me were the auto pen signed pardons not for his political cronies like Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi and Liz Cheney and Dr. Fauci and others, but the hardened criminals, the murderers, the drug dealers, people who, by the way, never applied for a pardon and never expressed any remorse.

a huge number of these. So who was operating the actual pardon auto patent? The answer, by the way, is a woman named Nira Vanden and a guy named Steve Nelson. Congressman Tim Burchett, who I think is a real straight shooter, has speculated that money may have changed hands, that may be somehow, maybe the way some of those hardened criminals got. pardons, but there's no rhyme or reason. It wasn't just his political cronies. It was

these horrific criminals. And let's plus that out. Let's stop right there, because that's key. And I was talking to some high-level federal prosecutors of the week, and they were bringing this up. Just like Al Capone, you couldn't get him on the murders because he covered that up too well, but you could get him on income tax evasion. It's the same thing.

We know the White House, he was staff, Obama, that committee, with the key bills, the executive board's legislation, the banning of the sale of liquid natural gas. That was all them running it. But things were such a free-for-all lawlessness that you've even got the AIDS in there. Clearly, that's what it all points said, getting hundreds of thousands of dollars or more per person, slipping them cash or bars of gold or diamonds or whatever it was to then just go in and use the auto pen as well.

That just shows how any time there's rule by committee, it becomes a runaway train, which this was. That's why we also saw so much policy even inside. the White House, it loggerheads with its own self, not rhyme or reason, because it was just a giant free-for-all. I think that's true because look, the Biden's four years were the third term

of Barack Obama, operating through Susan Rice, operating through Valerie Jarrett, operating through Ron Clayne in the early days. And, of course, any time you have that kind of third

party dominance, you're going to have problems. It's why the administration never had any cogent immigration policy. There were some arguing we can't just have an open border, while others were arguing, why not? Of course, in the end, that's precisely what they had. I thought, in all honesty, that we ran a much, much better campaign in 2024, and, frankly, they ran a horrific campaign. They were so shocked by Joe's meltdown in the one debate that he had with Donald Trump, that they immediately ignominiously dumped him. And then the people who are constantly lecturing us about democracy

used entirely undemocratic system in which not a single Democrat primary or caucus voter voted for their presidential nominee Kamala Harris, who was basically foisted on the party over Joe's objections in a coup engineered by Barack Obama and frankly Nancy Pelosi with the acquiescence of Chuck Schumer. And I still believe that they told Joe that if he did not drop out of the race, they would have removed him from the presidency under the 25th Amendment. And interestingly enough, the only appeal to that, if a majority of the cabinet and the vice president go along with your replacement, the president does have the ability to appeal to the Congress, which is why having Pelosi in Schumer on board the plot to dump Joe became so incredibly. And then it would have been if there was a tie in the Senate, which it was close to, who would have broken the tie to remove him, the vice president? precisely so i mean joe was done i think by the way that to this day he's quite bitter about it he was

very bitter about it that i suspect he's still bitter about it okay so you laid out the history of it and i remember you talking about this Klein guy first and all and then it's come out that he was basically the prime minister's what they called him as the joke to kind of air traffic control the the vending machine where foreign governments individuals put money in and got whatever they wanted they wouldn't even check that if they already somebody else already paid them off for another policy. Somebody else could pay them off. They do this policy. Just total insanity. Total just runaway train bonker town. Four years, no hotline discussions with Putin or anybody. I mean, just total psychotic lunacy because obviously if he's not the president, well, then you've got to

hide that, hide him from people. Mike Johnson months to get a meeting with him. And then, of course, Biden didn't even know that he'd ban the liquid natural gas and couldn't believe it. But then when you don't have a president, That means you can't have real detent or foreign policy, and they can't talk to foreign leaders. Imagine how dangerous this was on the break of nuclear war with this Ukraine-NATO war, literally having a headless horseman running the country. I mean, this is beyond treason. This is beyond scandal. This is total insane madness.

What needs to happen now? They need to be prosecuted. Good Lord. Trump keeps demanding it every day to Pam Bondi. This is open and shut. Where do we start? What do we do? Because there's so many people do and die here.

Well, a couple of things, Alex. First of all, I suspect, unfortunately, that Joe's incapacity actually worked very well with their foreign policy because they had no interest in peace between Ukraine and Russia. They had no interest in peace talks. They had no interest in dialogue. In Lincoln would not allow it. Sure, but that's the most dangerous way to probably.

prosecute a major war with a nuclear power is not to be talking to them like we've always did. So my point is they admit no calls for over three years. I understand why they liked it, but it just shows a bunch of lawyers that don't even understand the military history, just arrogantly playing God. I mean, these people are just the most disgusting, arrogant, dangerous people I think we've ever seen. Well, it's no worse than their decision to lift the sanctions on Iran and give them $190 billion in frozen assets. What did they think that the Iranian regime was going to do with that money? Feed the people?

Not a chance. They used it to finance terrorism, and they used it to restart their nuclear weapons development program. This is their policy. This was not a mistake. This wasn't a misjudgment or some misguided idea. This is their policy. Here's your problem. It remains the same, Alex. Whether you charge, let's say, John Brennan and James Comey and Susan Rice and even Joe Biden in the Russian collusion hoax, where would they stand trial?

In the District of Columbia? Trust me, you will not get a fair or honest trial in D.C. No Democrat will be convicted of any crime. When John Durham charged Michael Sussman, the lawyer at the very bottom, of the Russian collusion hoax, which is like charging the guy who drove the getaway car for double parking while you let the bank robbers get away, they couldn't even get a conviction of him.

When they caught the lawyer to the CIA for the FBI for the FBI, who had altered the 302 records for various witnesses, he got a slap on the wrist. He was disbarred for about three weeks, and then everything was right back to the, normal. So you will not find an honest judge in D.C. You will not find an honest trial in D.C. You will not find an honest jury in D.C. Take it for me. I can tell you firsthand. So if you want to to charge James Comey or charge John Brennan, written two pieces this week,

why Brennan is the key architect of the Russian collusion hoax. If you think you're going to get a conviction in D.C., good luck on that. And that's really the problem. And And you've experienced this. You've been working, you know, in the government and the Republicans in the White Houses since Reagan. And so it's easy to get mad at Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. And they've certainly Bonino and Cash have been saying some things. We'll talk about when we come back that have really upset myself and others because we just

know the case. We know the story. We know the history. And to claim that Epstein killed himself and it's open and shut. And to claim that Crooks Act alone is just really insulting to everybody. If they're going to kill the investigations for whatever reason, and I don't think Trump actually approves of that, then they should at least just not talk about it

and insult our intelligence. But that said, how entrenched the bureaucracy is, the corrupt judges, how the federal system works, where these trials have to be held, mainly D.C., as good as Ed Martin is, they blocked him as U.S. attorney in D.C., though he's being given this new task force job with real power to go out after weaponization of the government.

And that's very exciting. I'm going to talk about all that when we come back, But just in general, it is an uphill battle. And so that's why I see Trump cutting off the money, putting a lot of his people in, doing a way better job than he did eight years ago, understanding the system. But still, in a brief minute and a half, we go to break, how would you quantify the overall job as administration is doing, taking on the deep state right now?

First of all, honestly, just narrowly averted war with Iran. What could be better than that? What are the implications of a strike on Iran? Do you think that nothing would happen to us? Do you think our energy prices would not go into the stratosphere, that our food prices would not go into a stratosphere? Do you think that the communist Chinese, who have a full nuclear arsenal, by the way, you think they're just going to stand by while their client state is destroyed?

I think not. So Donald Trump ignored the drums of war, some few within his own administration, and deciding to pursue peace and negotiation, which I think is a much smarter course. I think that was a giant victory for America. Andy comes back with these massive economic deals. A billion dollars from the Saudis, a billion four from the UAE, 200 billion from Qatar. America's open for business again.

I think he's doing extraordinarily well. No, I agree. We cannot throw out the baby with the bathwater because so many other populists and talk show host, most of them Johnny Conn-Latley's, just want to sit and bitch about things that aren't unperfect. and overall they're ignoring the amazing game-changing positive things that are happening. That said, I still spend about 10% of my time criticizing things that I think are bad,

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To an infowars.com frontline report, it's Alex Jones. Back to while you were sitting there on hold in the digital green room for those 15 minutes or so. When I was airing live, Trump, showing compilation videos of the president of South Africa's party and his deputy ministers that head up the major departments saying, we're going to chase down and murder all the white farmers, we're going to kill the boar, we're going to kill the Afrikaners, we're going to shoot them, we're going to murder them. Then his government last week, when Trump took 80-something South Africans over here, sweet little families,

and this president comes out and says, oh, it's treason trying to leave. You need to stay here so you can be punished and so we can have revenge. Then he sits there with a straight face with a little sweet, soft voice. Oh, no, we don't hurt anybody, no. And those are political parties. Those are our parties.

They have the right to speech. It's a democracy. But that's not our policy, though it is their policy. See the video. Trump showed South African President and Oval Office proving persecution of Afrikaners. Well, I mean, it's the extermination. It's the extermination. It's the extermination.

It's the extermination. It's the extermination. Not the persecution. So, and that's the thing about conservatives and populace. We always dial back what's happening. Always dial it back. We never say what it is, but Trump does. It's treason, the auto pen, all of it.

So it's not misguided the transgender cult targeting our children for sterilization. It's a death cult. It's not environmental wackos. They're taking over. They have a plan. It's premeditated. So Roger, watching that exchange and what he's been doing at these beyond fireside chats where he's got the media there, he's got the leaders there,

got the bad guys there, and then he just destroys them in front of everybody and shows the proof. It felt like Info Wars, you know, meets Jerry Springer or something. But it's not, you know, stupid issues. It's real issues with him showing him stacks of documents of his own South African news of murdered white people just the last week, a huge stack of it. And, I mean, the South African gaslighter didn't know what to do, Roger. This is incredible. Yeah, it just demonstrates once again that Donald Trump is an iron man. He doesn't have to run a re-election. He's not worried about re-election.

He's worried about fundamentally changing the direction of the party, a country. And this is like turning around a notion liner. I mean, some of our own people expecting everything to change overnight. That cannot physically happen. You have a massive federal bureaucracy, people by people, I should say, or staffed by people who oppose him and his agenda. These things do take time. But you didn't see him engaging in diplomatic niceties there.

You didn't see him backing down when the president lies with a straight face. The president of South Africa lies with a straight face about their policies. No, he sticks it right in his face. Alex, you showed the videos. What are all those crosses about if nobody was killed? But what was that all about? This is genocide. It's obviously genocide.

Donald Trump, it's 56 white people. farmers in the country in the left goes completely insane. Yet when we allowed 20 million, I think, plus illegals into the country under Joe Biden, that same media said virtually nothing, as if it was perfectly natural or perfectly allowable. Thank God Donald Trump is in the White House. Thank God that we have at least four years trying to save this country. I hesitate to think what would have happened if Kamala has. Harris had been elected, and then Joe Biden wouldn't have gotten his fourth term as president,

because he already had three. Back to what we were covering them before the break. Then I'm going to get into all the big news you're working on, and any curveballs you've got for us. I look at what Trump's been able to get done with policy and peace and jobs and obviously winning the trade war, and so fast, and the vast majority of countries joining us from India to the UK to Vietnam, you name it now over 100. and China capitulating to the original 30% tariffs that he wanted them to accept. And then he raises them to make them submit when they've been screwing us.

We were retaliating from what they've been doing. And the media goes, oh, look, he had it up to 150% now it's back to 30. Yeah, he did that to make them go back to what he declared on Independence Day just four or five weeks ago. And then to have Moody's downgrade the U.S. Treasury, the U.S. credit rating, and then to have them try to downgrade U.S. banks because the Federal Reserve won't give us an interest rate cut, but they did do that for the EU, same shareholders. I mean, this is just naked, globalist, fat-cat establishment

trying to stop Trump. But now they have articles in Wall Street Journal. Oh, people aren't paying attention. The stock market should have plunged when Moody's did that, but it didn't. So now Moody's is going to do more. I mean, they are really exposing themselves. And I also think people don't understand the incredible implications of the tax cut bill that's moving through the House now. This will be the largest tax cut in American history, doing the way of the tax on tips, which certainly addresses the struggling middle class families that voted for Donald Trump, doing the way of the tax on retirement, Social Security, doing a way increasing the child tax credit.

look, if you are not for extending the Trump tax cuts, well, then you are de facto for the largest tax increase in American history. Yet you still have leftists like Robert Reich. Remember him? I went to high school with that guy. He was in numb nuts then. He's a numb nuts today. Insisting, oh, the inflation and the deficit is caused by these tax cuts for the rich. First of all, the tax cuts are across the board. They're not just for the rich. They are for everybody. just as the Trump tax cuts in the first term, just as the tax cuts under Ronald Reagan, just as the tax cuts under John Kennedy,

in every instance where we cut taxes across the board, you have a sharp spike in federal revenues based on the increased economic activity. But that's what one... Robert Rice, the known communist. He knows, that leprechaun knows what he's doing. He's an admitted communist. He wants clouted and pivot.

He wants to collapse our country, so he can have an emergency re-reargette. and have an emergency reorganization of us build back better. He wants a great reset, just like Claude Schwab. It's true. I've had it up to here with Robert Wright, to be quite honest with you. By the way, Alex, I've got to say one thing. Show me about this two weeks ago, I was completely skeptical.

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Comey has made the rounds. It just says he didn't know what 86. 47 meant. He just saw these shells out on this deserted beach he was on. Total liar. For people that don't remember how he was probably the number one or of not number two under John Brennan, deep stater, the persecution of everybody, including you and Trump, the election meddling, the fraud, the targeting Flynn.

And then we've got all these attempts on Trump's life. This is a very serious thing going on. Just like when President Trump said, hey, Are you going to prosecute his deputy minister who is up there in South Africa in front of hundreds of thousands saying kill the white people in dancing? And then the president goes, well, that's his free speech. Oh, when you're a government leader saying go kill people? No, that is an incitement to violence. So give us a little snapshot history lesson on Comey and then what you make of his latest activities.

Well, first of all, I remember very, very distinctly the interview in which he bragged about setting up General Michael Flynn. bragged about it as it was a complete setup. Mike Flynn said nothing wrong, had no inappropriate comments with the Russian ambassador when he was waiting to be confirmed as National Security Advisor. By the way, his predecessor, his national security advisor, had conversations with the Russian ambassador before he was convert. Nothing inappropriate about that. And Mike Flynn never discussed any easing of sanctions on Russia. Was a lie, and they knew it was a lie. Comey was bragging about setting up Mike Flint, one of the greatest patriots ever been my honor to know. Secondarily, he didn't know what 86 means.

Well, I guess he's never been to Brooklyn, never been to New Jersey. This is everybody with any kind of education understands it is a slang term for termination. I think it comes out of the mafia. Or if you go to Atlantic City or Las Vegas, when you're 86, it means you're tapped out. You're out of the game. So what's disturbing here, it would be less disturbing if there weren't two attempts on Trump's life. I wrote a book on the Kennedy assassination, as you know, the man who killed Kennedy, the case against LBJ. And the parallels that I have found, just as they hosed out the inside of JFK's limousy within an hour of being shot,

why did they hose down the roof of the building that they tell us that Thomas Matthew Crooks shot from? Could it be because they don't want us to test and see if his DNA was there? Look, I have a very high regard for Cash Patel, strongly supported his appointment. I like Dan Bongino. I think they're good guys. I just find it hard to believe that Crooks, if he's even the real shooter, acted alone. There's why I witness testimony that seems to contradict that. And the idea that our intelligence services, our law enforcement,

can't get into Crooks' phone, really? I find that very hard to believe. Well, when you look at the video of Mangino and Cash Patel on Fox, they look like they're prisoners or hostages or something. I mean, the body language, when they're telling us, oh, no, we've seen the file Crooks Act alone. It was, I mean, it was bad. I mean, this was really upsetting.

What do you make of it, Roger? I mean, let's do this. Here's the clip, see it for yourself, and respond to this, because this is some of the worst body language I've ever seen. It's not just like we're lying, it's we're scared, and we don't like telling this lie. It's almost like they were doing it to create a controversy. I mean, did you murder your wife?

Oh, I promise I was busy. I was somewhere else. I can't tell you who went, but it wasn't me. I promise. I mean, it's really bad. Here it is. But how come we don't have more information? on the assassination attempts on President Trump?

There's two reasons, two open, ongoing prosecutions. So two of the investigations are obviously closed because the individuals are dead. But there's two live prosecutions. And so we can't get ahead of the federal court case. A lot of that information will come out in the federal court cases, but we have personally invested our time in making sure that we have looked at all the any possible international connections to terrorism and adversaries alike. And we've both been down to Quantico.

We've both done the laboratory testing. We've both seen the explosive analysis. We've both seen the firearm and physically held it. We are all in on these investigations. Are we going to be surprised at what you learned? You know what, Maria? Cash is not kidding. We've been personally briefed extensively on every single detail,

nugget, tendril of this case. One is actively in court right now, so at respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I'd stay quiet on that. However, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth, and whether you like it or not is up to you.

If there was a big explosive, they're there, right? Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship, as a director does with the president, give me one logical, sensible reason we would not have to, If you can think of what, there isn't.

There isn't, in some of these cases, that there you're looking for is not there. And I know people, I get it, I understand. It's not there. If it was there, we would have told you. Well, the other issue that's been talked about recently is this mortgage fraud. All right, so that just, A, the body language is really bad. B, we know the facts of this.

And just to say, I've been personally briefed, It's like the Epstein thing. I've seen the files. He killed himself. Well, we've seen it too. And the coroner said his neck was broken in three spots. Roger Stone, how do you respond to that? Yeah, I agree with you, Alex.

It's very strange. The body language is very strange. The problem, of course, is you may remember when Lyndon Johnson, first of all, he didn't want to have a federal commission to investigate the assassination of John Kennedy. He actually says to Jake Hoover on the phone, we can't be out investigating every shooting scrape out there. he considered the murder of a president in a shooting scape, but more importantly, Earl Warren, the Chief Justice Supreme Court did not walk to head the investigation until Lyndon Johnson implied to him that he had knowledge that the Russians were behind the murder of Kennedy.

They weren't. And that if the American people learned this, it could lead to World War III. So I guess in a certain sense, we don't know what cash, well, I think is a very good man, strongly supported his appointment. I like Dan Bongino. I think they're good men. But I don't know what it is that they know that we don't. There are just too many obvious things for which there are no answers.

How is it possible that the FBI, the Secret Service, the state police, and the local police are all on different radio frequencies. He can't speak to each other. How is it possible that for 92 minutes, they know there's a man, with a gun who's been seen with a range finder inside the close perimeter of the president's event, but no one informs the president's direct security detail. But he's on the roof for up to 10 minutes, people going gun, gun, gun, and he gets off a bunch of shots, and then they say the Secret Service shot him and then no, it's a cop shot him.

This was a stand down, bare minimum. Well, and again, Apple tells us that they can't get into Crook's phone or into his computer, or they refused to because it would be a violation of his privacy rights. Yet, Apple was more than happy to hand over the contents of my phone and my computer to Robert Mueller before he even got a subpoena. Oh, it's pure crap. Absolutely. Well, let's just be clear.

The FBI has devices that can break into any phone, Apple, any of it. That's all pure horse crap, okay? what they have is backdoors in all the major apps, and if the app has access, they go through the app, that's just one way, okay? So, absolutely, you're totally right. Rogerstonezone.com. We've only got about another minute or so.

You've got to go. Thank you for the time. But any other big tidbits or nuggets you've got for us. I'll say this, and you just saw Maria Barteromo, start to get into it. But Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, Her problems are far, far worse than just a 22-year pattern of mortgage fraud. I think you're going to learn very shortly that she knew about and looked the other way on major New York financial institutions, looking the other way on the violation of the Iran sanctions to the tunes of tens of millions of dollars.

Watch for that story. There is a prosecutable crime coming there. I think that story is about to break. Last question. I know they're trying to prosecute people, and we've seen some prosecutions, this congresswoman that attacked the federal ICE folks has been indicted. But what's the word you hear on impending indictments? Because Trump keeps demanding him.

He's right. We need them now. I still think, Alex, as we discussed earlier, they're grappling with the idea of bringing an indictment in D.C., bringing an indictment in D.C. and having that person acquitted because you can't get a reasonable trial does not help the administration. Sure, but can't you find a connection of the crime they committed there in another jurisdiction and do it that way? I'm not an attorney, so I cannot tell you. I do know this. You can have field hearings in which those who have gotten preemptive pardons cannot refuse to testify and cannot plead the fifth.

And then if they perjure themselves, they could be prosecuted in that jurisdiction where the field hearing is held. This is what I think Speaker Johnson should do on some of these issues. I agree, and I was talking to some folks this weekend about that at the DOJ. That's what they were discussing is the crimes committed against people like you and I. That's in other jurisdictions that leads back to the bad guys, and they can charge them here. So absolutely, Stonezone.com. God bless you. Let's talk soon, my friend.

Thank you, Alex. God bless you. God bless you. All right. We carried about 40 minutes of the press conference. but it was still going on. We've got even more. It's over now.

It was bonkers powerful. I mean, I want to come back. I don't want to just focus on this press conference, but it's too historic. Not just in the racist Soros-funded president being exposed to his face, but the fact that Trump's going pure info war, as I've begged them to do, as I've advised them to do, I'm not saying it's reasons this is happening because of me,

but it's just the way to do it. I mean, get them in there. there, show them the videos, show them the articles when they're sitting there lying. And just do this on every issue and we will win the hearts and minds, which we've already won, but we will continue to keep the hearts and minds and gain

more people who've been asleep. And then I've got a bunch of good news, a bunch of Supreme Court rulings, a bunch of AI news that's really out of control. I said I get into it yesterday, and I'm glad I waited there's even more now. And so I'm going to try

to do my best job in the next hour to really go through all of this, but I've got to hit and finish up the South African black KKK leader, whatever we want to call him, the black Hitler. You know, Hitler's known for killing groups he didn't like, well, this guy, according to that, is the

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