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Episode Date: August 22, 2026

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Tomorrow's News today. Of the information war, it's Alex Jones at Alex Jones Live.com. Share the links and spread the word. We've only just begun to fight. Saturday Transmission, Welcome to Saturday Live, the Alex Jones Show. I'm your embattled host today, Rex. Jones. We got quite the show for you. I've got a number of domestic stories. And if you've been following me, you know, I'm kind of a politics and war guy. We've got to look at what's

happening downstream all these global conflicts. Got to look at what's happening during the destruction of the Republican Party caused by Donald Trump. How did this all start and how is it going to end? I'll be joined at 1230 by top leading pollster Mark Mitchell, who was previously with Rasmussen, now with his own polling agency, honest polling group. And I'm looking forward to having that conversation with him. However, I want to start off with the break. news today. This is the number one top story that I saw this morning. This deserves to be covered. And what I checked out in trying to find more additional information on it is that there's a media blackout going on right now on the victims, the Epstein survivors, their stories need to be told,

their voices need to be heard, and they're being very vocal. They're going to name names. We're letting Congress know right now. If you don't speak up, we will. Let's go ahead and throw that clip. Transparency is justice, release the files, and the secret. and stand with us in declaring that no one, no billionaires, no politicians, not world leaders, is above the law. And let me announce now, several of us, Epstein survivors, have been discussing creating our own list of names. As others, we will confidentially compile the names we all know we're regularly in the Epstein world. And it will be done by survivors and four survivors.

One else is involved. Stay tuned for more details on that. It is washing and so are the women who will come after us. Thank you. So this to me is one of the big two campaign promises of the 2024 Trump administration. They said, number one, we're going to expose Epstein, release all the files, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi. This was their beat. Remember, I have the files on my desk.

I've seen the videos. Oh, they're so horrible. And then, of course, no Iran war, no war, period, ending the war in Ukraine as well. Look at how we've forgotten about that. And the key thing to remember here is that you're not a goldfish. You're a human being and you have a mind and an opinion. And that was formed based off facts and logic. Whenever they lie to you, I want you to pay attention to this, whenever they lie to you,

whenever they obfuscate, whenever they try to hide the truth, you know, you know things can be explained under a paragraph. It doesn't need all of this explanation. The reason why Pam Bondi came out there and said, oh, I have the files on my desk. I've seen the videos so terrible. It's because, well, as the top law enforcement officer in the country, which is what the attorney general is, she had seen the files, and she had been working with the FBI. The order came down from on high not to put this stuff out.

I want to go ahead and read this article really quick. This is also breaking. Judge threatens Justice Department over Epstein files. The victims have a right to know. A federal judge has warned the U.S. DOJ of possible contempt proceedings after repeatedly resisted orders to justify redactions in the Jeffrey Epstein files. The dispute centers on records that could shed light on Epstein's wider network, including potential co-conspirators and whether the DOJ has lawfully withheld them under the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Washington, D.C. District Judge Emmett Sullivan issued the warning in a lawsuit brought by journalist Katie Fang against Attorney General Todd Blanche. Fang accuses the Trump administration of failing to release all records required under the Epstein-Files Transparency Act or adequately explained why some were with health.

This is a case where the most evidence has been hidden in front of everybody's face. It's like you got a dead body under a tarp and you got blood leaking out, you got the foot sticking out from underneath the tarp. And then the person standing over the tarp says, oh, nothing to see here. And in this analogy, you're a police officer and you're like, hey, you know, we got a call here that you murdered somebody. this is kind of known on record. Can we look under that tarp? And they're like, oh, no, you don't have the authority to do that. Only the federal government is able to hide its crimes in this way, because it's also the monkey

guarding the banana patch. The lunatics are running the asylum. They have a clear compromise here. They're compromised in the sense of they have the ability to prevent this information coming out. As Trump said, my friends will get hurt. That's what he said to MTG. You can draw your own conclusions there.

But I don't want you to forget about this stuff because one very important man, told you not to forget about it. And that would be Dan Bongina, Dan Bongino, also known as Epstein's Power Bottom, Netanyahu's Power Bottom. Let's go ahead and play a clip two. A year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox, and I'm not going to say who, because they didn't give me permission to share it. But the story, but I know who they are. Says, you know Epstein's an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right? I'm like, no, I didn't know that. I'm like, you sure? That's the person, let's say, is like, I'm absolutely, sure of that, that he's either a winning or unwitting asset, intelligence asset, meaning

his plane and that island, the cameras, there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein. Hold on, pause it. All right, he's about to imply, oh, some Middle Eastern countries working for, would that be Qatar? I mean, look at that face. Come on, Unk. You know who you're talking about.

He's about to say some Middle Eastern country. But here's the thing. We were told, oh, Epstein, it's normal. He's just a rich guy. He jetsets around goes to all these different locations, homes that he owns. And yeah, all the bedrooms are wired with cameras. And yeah, he's got a massive collection of tapes. But it's all just home video.

You know, he likes to do like Tony Hawk stuff with a skateboard Navy. Navy likes to record his dinner parties. It's very clearly espionage. Did you like the torture video? That's something from the Epstein files. I enjoyed that trip. You know, what does that really mean? And all the coded language and all the things people like Dan Bonino now just gloss over

They say it's a Democrat hoax. They say you're not MAGA if you care about the Epstein files. All this stuff is coming back to light. Keep playing it. That's a huge mistake. The reason they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh, yeah, Epstein had him. No, he wasn't the only one who had him, according to this source.

These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense. Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know, but this person who's a very, very good reporter. I mean, ACEs, right? swore Epstein was either a winning or unwitting intelligence asset, and they may have had his plane wired up, and they're the ones who have all this stuff. So the point is, to sum it up,

how do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions? Hey, he wouldn't want this video out there, right? How do you know? 100%. I mean, let's get per- He's got Ehud Barak, the Prime Minister of Israel, slinking out of his house, pissed off.

He's got Howard Lutnik lying about, oh, me and my wife went over to Epstein's house, and Epstein had a massage table out. And we said, oh, what kind of guy gets a massage every day? And Epstein said the right kind of massage. So I looked at my wife, and my wife looked at me, and we said, I'm sorry, we got to get out of here. We got to leave. And then, of course, the photos come out of Lutnik on the island. And what did Trump say?

My friends will get hurt. That is what this has always been about. This is about him either protecting his friends himself or both, as he's. He sees them as an extension of himself. And ultimately, when you run in 2024 on the platform of draining the swamp, the swamp is Epstein, the swap is the political blackmail, the swamp is the espionage, the swamp is the Middle Eastern country. We all know it's not Brazil or Qatar that's in charge of all this. You know, it wasn't the prime minister of Qatar that was hanging out at Epstein's house. It wasn't, you know, Ahmed Mamoubu or whatever the name is.

It was another guy named Ehud Barak. And of course, who is he the prime minister of Israel, I-Z-R-U-L. Let's go ahead and get back into clip number three, if we can, clip number three. The very beginning of Trump's presidency, so glad we have an AI litigation team in place. Wait, sir, our Department of Justice, which I thought we owned as citizens, is now working on behalf of private companies, which we do not own, in order to force communities to subsidize those private companies? Yes. So under the Attorney General, under this AI litigation team, this task force, we'll go out and they'll see, hey, you know, did this community in upstate New York put in place some toxic diesel particulates zoning law that's not going to allow this data center to be built because they'll need backup diesel generators.

And when they kick on every 30, you know, every few days to test the diesel backup and it's going to shoot off. these particulates and so forth. We don't want that here. We don't want it polluting our air and our waterways, by the way. So that's what this task force will look at. Or maybe we just don't want it. Maybe we just don't. We think it's ugly or we disagree with the whole project or it doesn't matter what

the motive is. It's our community. And don't we have some right to shape its future? All right. So I think this is a very key point to understand. You don't get the Epstein files. You don't get cheap energy. You don't get peace across the earth.

You don't get anti-war policy. But what you do get is toxic diesel particulates. What you do get is toxic foreign beef product, which we'll be getting into later. What you do get is more and more and more boomers voting in elections and dominating with their willpower to pump the stock market ever higher by taking us further and further on to war. And I think it's very key and very clear to understand to people. America doesn't work for you anymore. That wasn't the intention, right?

The intention was always to make the billionaires richer and richer and richer. And who would those people be? Those people would happen to be Epstein's friends. Now, I think Tucker raises an important issue here talking about the very fact this is an ugly thing, right? Because it doesn't just have to be materially deficient to the country. It doesn't just have to hurt America. It's also ugly and wrong and antithetical to our culture. You know, China only has like less than 400.

I think it's like 350, something like that, data centers. We have almost 4,000. In the state of Texas alone, they denied permits to build 1,800 of these things. And you got to keep in mind, this is why I talk about the generational stuff so much. This is so important for people understand. When you have a family, all right, and you have people, let's just call them boomers, whatever, it is Gen X, whatever. And they're older, and they have family land, family property, and they've got millennial kids. They've got Gen Z kids.

Maybe they got Gen X kids. And they raise those children in a way to either not appreciate what they had, not know what they had or not value what they had. What ends up happening is happening is in all these communities, whether they got the water source, where they got the land to develop, XYZ, the access imminent domain or not, you're looking at a population of people that are selling off the future of the country, both from a regulatory perspective by voting for these things and supporting these things and just from a spiritual perspective. You know, I'm a big fan of James Fishback, and I was unhappy to see him lose the Florida primary

to Byron Donald's, but he did get, you know, 150,000 plus people to vote for him. And that's a really big deal. And how do he do that? He did that by talking about the orange groves. You do that by talking about the wetlands, the Everglades, the things that we want to protect. That's their culture, our culture as Americans together, stewards of the land. That's what God calls us to be, calls us to have dominion over the earth and to care for it, not to destroy it, not to destroy the planet. And ultimately, when you're a billionaire and you come waltzing into town, as my dad said about Ben Shapiro years ago,

I bet you wear some spurs when you come to town, don't you, Mr. Shapiro? When you waltz into town with your spurs and your 10-gallon hat and you say, I'm a billionaire, I live. in Hawaii full time. We're going to build the data center and it's going to employ 400 American jobs. You're like, well, this is a multi-billion dollar project. I thought that when you got multi-billion dollar projects in your economy, I thought that was supposed to benefit the people and lift them up, not tear them down. And they go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We get tax breaks, subsidies. We get your energy. We get your water. We get your land via eminent domain. It's a military operation. Keep that in mind. It's very key to our national security to develop

these on top of your house. We get infinite excuses, infinite credit to build whatever we want. And you would say, well, I'm an American. My family's had this farm for eight generations, six generations, three generations. You want to take it from me? And they'll say, well, you know, we're going to pay you all this money. You're going to get all this money. Don't you want $10 million? And they're going to build the capstone, the tombstone to the country on top of your family land. That's what all this represents to me. Look how ugly that thing is. That is the future of America. Not humans running around, not people hunting and fishing, not people worshiping God, a digital 2D ready player one style hell where you will be the only prisoner

and soon not even the only prisoner, everyone will be dead and no one will have children anymore. Because the goal ultimately, as I've talked to top futurist, Mike Adams about this multiple multiple times, is the idea of raising up a two-dimensional God inside one of these data centers that serves as a simulated world or a simulation of creation, then they can bring into our reality that will have predictive powers on present and future happen. happenings on our planet. That's how you get a real crystal ball, a palantier, if you will. And last time I checked, you didn't vote for that. I didn't vote for that. Nobody voted for that. Like, here's the thing. When he comes in and says, I'm the AI president and gives $500 billion

to Sam Altman and Open AI and Project Stargate, I believe Larry Ellison as well, on day one, that's not America First policy. That might be able to justify it as, oh, if we don't do it, China will. That's the same thing they said about the war, guys. That's the same thing they said about the war. Are you starting to notice a pattern yet? Let's go back to Tucker with more key information. And there's going to be, you know, the loopholes that will be used here, and we'll see what this data AI litigation task force does.

It's like the white supremacy task force or the anti-Semitism task force that will be deployed across the United States. So it'll be interesting to see like what loopholes are employed. But good news is like 500 or so different communities have already fought back against this. There was a friend of the show, Derek Brose and Hakeem Anwar put on a day of action on the beginning of August against these data centers. So people around the country to come out and say, we don't want these things in our backyard, at least kind of drawing attention to them. We don't want the noise. We don't want the pollution. And there's so much just misinformation and there's fear about all of these data centers right now.

and there's just a lot of, there's just a lot of BS that's kind of floating around about how these things operate. Maybe we could talk about it if you want to kind of dive. All right, let's take it out here. I want to go to clip number four, which is Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith. He's a big fan of these data centers. You know, Tucker may be worried about it. Everyone else may be worried, hey, do you not support the Empire? Play clip number four.

Darth Vader. He is a fan of flock, and we must continue utilizing flock technologies so that, that we can follow and surveil the rebels come as they move from playground to playground, from playground to pool, from pool to gymnasium. Because we all know that the flock cameras are not only following the license plate readers, they are following children, they are following children in parks and gymnasiums. And we need this, I need this so I can stock my ex-girlfriend. Also, it should be known that the people of this town, the pools that want their storm drains,

cleared, they should not have their storm drains cleared. Because in order to do that, we will have to raise taxes. And how will the people trust this city council when this city council continues to vote for surveillance technology that imprisons them? Ms. Campbell, you must work on your Jedi mind tricks. Do it like this. And when you do it, make sure that when you're double speaking them into telling them that police services have become more humanitarian, make sure that you don't emphasize the detail that you put a ban on camping. You put a ban. You made criminalizing homelessness illegal. And that is why there is no such thing as humanitarian policing for the homeless, because we have effectively criminalized homelessness, which is good. Now we can staff,

now we can fill our jails with free prison labor, especially like that of the Otai Mason Detention Center, where they are making one dollar a day for working for 12 hours. and there have been multiple cases of tuberculosis. Yes, and this is good. This is what the emperor needs. This technology will help us find the rebel scum and their hidden base on half. This technology will help us find Luke Skywalker as he traverses the universe in his ex-wing. This technology is a necessary force.

Isn't that beautiful, ladies and gentlemen, isn't that exactly what we want to see? and that is what we're seeing across the nation. I'm not going to advocate for direct action here, but plenty of people are, you know, spraying foam on the things. Plenty of people are going to city council meetings, having their voices being heard. And plenty of these things are being kicked out of city straight up. People show up, I think it was in New Jersey,

get one removed from their town and say, no, we don't want this here. When everyone stands up against something, that is the true white pill. Okay, and this is why we really have to reach consciousness, American consciousness, all being united on working on stopping this stuff. Okay, because it's always darkest before the dawn is one of my favorite sayings, and it is very true.

Things have to get a lot worse before they get a lot better, and I think we're finally reaching that point as a nation altogether. People don't want license plate readers scanning their children's faces when they're at the pool or at the playground. People don't want license plate readers scanning them, period. I have a Fourth Amendment right to privacy and a First Amendment right to privacy as well, and a Ninth Amendment right, which guarantees that there are rights that are outside of the Constitution that aren't included, but are also inalienable. Right? You cannot do this to people. The founding fathers anticipated something like this would happen. This is specifically why we have the Ninth Amendment. And the idea this is going on in the land of the free, home of the brave, is completely and totally ridiculous. And I think people at a very base level know that. People disagree a lot on the Second Amendment. And that really hurts my heart because I'm a massive two-way advocate as well. They just, the school shooting propaganda, the psychosis propaganda around guns shooting out, you know, a thousand bullets a second and all of it. insane stuff. When you talk to even a liberal, it's real harder to get them to be pro two-way. And trust me, I've been doing like Second Amendment apologetic since I was a little boy. But when it comes to First Amendment issues, when it comes to Fourth Amendment issues, when it comes to Ninth Amendment, things that people know they have a right to not be tracked, traced, really raped by a computer overlord system, an AI tech grid.

People kind of know this inherently. It's like, hey, why are you watching me all the time? Like, we don't live in that society. We live in a society under God. God is the only one that should watch us. Look at this. Irmo flock cameras hit with orange substance weeks after vote. Oh, how horrible. I sure hope that doesn't happen everywhere they are. You know, some would call that person a patriot. You know, I think I'd call that person a patriot.

And look at this creature. That guy is like 90 years old. That's Larry Ellison, given $500 million or billion dollars by Trump, along with Sam Altman, to, you know, build this giant tech grid. And Trump is a literal iPad kid boomer. What does he know about technology? What does he know about cell phones, tracking, AI, blah, blah, blah. He doesn't know anything about that.

He was born in 1946. We've got a dino riding laws that will impact your great-grandchildren when it comes to our technology. And I think this is a key distinction to make. 2016, Trump, this wasn't around. They didn't have this tech. When it wraps back around in 2024, this is why Trump, for good or for evil, he will be known as one of the most important presidents in American history because he's the guy that's ushering all of this. I want to kind of pivot to geopolitics here. I want to cover Economic D-Day, which is the Scott Besant Donald Trump Protocol to strangle Iran.

Look at this real quick. AI creates 16 new viruses from scratch showing promise for drug resistance and drawing warnings about potential for misuse. That's GaintaFunction research. That shut down the planet for like two years and killed millions of people. And then they made a vaccine that killed millions, tens of millions more. You can't make this stuff up, folks. Let's go to Scott Besant on Fox News talking about economic. Dede.

Today, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, will lay out a whole new raft of sanctions to isolate Iran. That won't be easy as you look at the map there. Iran shares borders, land borders with seven different countries, not all of whom are sympathetic to the United States to the north there. You see the Caspian Sea. That gives them a direct route into and out of Russia. There's also increasing use of rail links over land to China.

So it will be interesting, guys, to see on. Monday, what proposals Scott Bessent may lay out for getting Russia and China on board with a new sanctions regime. Those two, of course, have very little interest in helping the U.S. Back to you, guys. Yeah, that's hilarious. It's like asking your girlfriend's ex-boyfriend to go to your wedding. Like that makes absolutely zero sense. We've been at war with Russia. We passed over 20 sanctions packages against Russia. Lindsay Graham's dying wish was for the 21st. And China, China has already announced they want nothing to do with this and they won't be involved in it.

And I want to do overhead shot. Please show this from Matt Bracken. This is key for everyone to understand. I've shown this again and again and again. We are already in World War III. It's World War E, World War Energy, or World War Epstein. Look at this 500 kilometer zone of constant conflict. Look at the Caspian Sea up here. Look at the Strait of Hormuz, straight of Malacca. Look at the Strait of Gibraltar over in the Mediterranean. Look at the Bawal Mendeb, which is, of course, with the Sli and Casp. Saudis used to transport, you know, millions of barrels of oil a day. The Houthis are implicated in that.

They're actively fighting the Saudis, whether that's diplomatically or active warfare. It's fizzled out. We already lost a war to the Houthis in 2025. If you remember, the motion of the ocean caused one of our F-16s to fall over and fall into the Red Sea. That's the level of failure we're talking about here. And this is not something that can be ignored or run away from. He can't deny it anymore.

He can't deny that we're in World War III. And people say, well, it doesn't have. affect me. I'm fine. America's fine. Is what it is. Do you enjoy paying the gas prices? Do you enjoy the explosions on social media every single day? Do you enjoy the president, the peace president, lying and taking us to war and killing 165 little girls and killing the Pope, 200 million Muslims? Once you do these things, once you set these things in motion, the oil prices aren't transient. Okay? Scott Bassin has come out there and said recently, I don't understand why the oil prices aren't going down. It's because nobody believes you anymore when you manipulate the market.

Go ahead and show the next clip, which is what's happening in UAE. They're trying to prepare for the incoming, potentially incoming Iranian drones and missiles. And these are being called cope cages, right? Massive cope. You think that's going to stop a Fatwa II missile? I think that's going to stop, you know, a dozen drones. I don't think so. What happens when all that rebar falls on top of the thing? But it's okay because, you know, we're taking precautions, we're taking steps. People like to act like we're in control, whether that's here, whether that's over in the Middle East, whether that's in Russia, China, Israel, Iran, wherever. Everyone wants to act like they're in control. Once you start something like this, there are no breaks on the train. And maybe the

Pentagon has some insane AI engine that's predicted that we'll win, that we'll come out on top, we'll defeat them for XYZ reason. Like I said, predictive power over the future. I just don't believe it. I don't believe it from a rational calculation. We decided on February 28th, March 1st, Trump decided at the orders of Netanyahu, because Trump is his power bottom, he decided to take us to war, to kill the Islamic Pope, and to blow up their little girl school. Those people are never going to accept peace with us unless we leave their region forever, and if we leave their region forever, they will bomb Israel forever. And that's just not a calculation that Trump is willing to accept because his masters won't allow him to do so. And this is a very clear and obvious reality

to me and to everyone else that has observed this situation for a long time. And keep in mind, These wars, like I said, they don't just stay local because it is a world war. What is happening across the planet right now, but specifically to Europe? Human osmotic pressure, as Michael Yon calls it, mass migration, mass migrant flows. You have people surging the border of Spain, surging the border of Europe, coming our way through the dairy and gap because they're running out of food. They're running out of oil. They're running out of supplies. And in a third world hellhole, like a Sudan, like somewhere in North Africa, the only choice is to take the call of the law.

leftist NGO or the Catholic NGO that calls you up and says, hey, we have a credit card for you, we got a boat for you, we got a family ready to take you in, we got, you know, tax break for you, we got EBT for you, basically, their equivalent. Just go ahead and show up. This is the Spanish mainland right now, okay, because it was in that other town near Morocco, right, that they control, they have possession of territorial ownership of, but this is on the southern coast of Spain, ladies and gentlemen, this is an invasion. All right, when people show up in a boat and they come to take what's yours. Usually throughout the course of history, you'd fight them, right? But instead, because of the dodo bird analogy, because that's what we've become in the West, people just

kind of blubber about on the beach and say, oh, well, the new Spaniards are here. I'm an old Spaniard. I'm bad. I deserve to be gotten rid of. It's time for the migrants to replace me. And think about this stuff, right? We had 20 million people enter our country under Biden conservatively. Our president, Joseph Biden, who committed treason, in my view, and just in the view of factual Americans, told illegal immigrants to surge our border. And the vast majority of those people are coming from South and Central America, although there are plenty of other people from all around the world, 137 countries. This is not even that same situation. These are people coming from literally the worst places on earth on giant zodiac boats being paid for by George Soros to come conquer Europe again. Okay, and keep in mind, the Muslims already did.

this for 400 years, 732 Battle of Tours is when the Europeans started kicking them out. We've seen this story before. And they want to play, oh, it's a good boy narrative. It's all right. They're coming over here to help us out. The longest unbroken slave trade was started by these people, by the North African Arabs. They had millions of white people as slaves. They had millions of black people as well.

That's where the transatlantic slave trade started. That's where the people learned it from. It was from these folks. So it's not a liberal-loving culture that's coming. to visit you. It's an invading force coming to conquer you. And if you cared about your country, you would stop it. The Europeans don't really care about their countries. I think that's pretty fair to say. But here in America, I do think that we care a little bit more. And that's another white pill I want to give you. We're not Spain just yet. But keep in mind, and I'm going to

get into Hassan Piker and all this stuff after Mark Mitchell joins me or maybe during it, we'll discuss it all. Keep in mind, this could be coming home to you very soon. But I'm being joined now by Top Polster, Mark Mitchell, then looking at how to you. you on for a while. I've been a huge fan for a very long time. He's the founder and head pollster of the honest polling company, a new public opinion research firm dedicated to representing the American citizen. That's nice. And not a lot of people representing us right now. It will conduct election prediction and public sentiment polling as well as written and video commentary without regard to powerful interests, political parties, and the Washington establishment.

You were the former head of polling at Rasmussen, which at one time I think was Trump's favorite polling place. Mark, thank you for coming on. Yeah, really great to be here. It's awesome meeting you. I like the way you think. I think we've shared a lot of each other's tweets over the last couple of months for certain. Yeah, no, absolutely, man. And that's why it's a joy for me to have you on today.

I'm just sick of people telling me that the sky's red and that the grass is blue and all this insane stuff. We try to live in reality, right? And it really hurts my feelings. It hurts my soul as somebody as a 13, 14 year old that got my dad to support Trump, right? Like, no one has, quote, unquote, turned against the president or come out against the administration out of some, like, perverse desire to have, like, Islamic foot washing stations everywhere. That's not the reality, although they try to sell you that. We were loyal to the message to the mission, which was America first, making America great again, releasing the Epstein files, stopping the war, cheap energy prices, Americans first, period in every single regard. Mark, just what have you seen these past two years?

Well, let me rewind and ask, were you one of the original frog guys? Because I have no problem saying that I was as well, because I understood the value of an outsider coming and attacking and acting as an avatar for the people against a rotten system. Right. And so I was there. Yeah. No, here's how I see it. Trump was given like a metaphysical sword, like the sword of liberty, the lady of the lake. Like Lady Liberty gave him this sword.

And we gave him the sword. We're Lady Liberty, right? That's what America is. It's the people that voted for him, right? And in 2024, he took that agenda, which was so perfect, so beautiful, and completely threw it to the wayside. So, yes, I was one of those original people. I recognized when I was sitting in Schlitterbond Waterpark with my dad, when I'm like 13, 14 years old, watching the first debate, looking at Jeb Bush and looking at Trump, I say that guy's going to be president. My dad goes, you're stupid.

But I was right. And I worked on him for months and months and months. And I finally got him to the degree. He was like, okay, I can see it. I see how he's going to win the primary. I see how he's going to win the general. And then he had him on his show. You know what, you bring it up.

So I go out, I'm going to have to play the clip. Play clip number 13, y'all. Go ahead and play clip number 13. Okay, great. And mine is Make America Great again. So there's a little bit of a difference. But my son, my son, you know, finally sold me on being a bigger supporter of yours. I mean, I liked you.

Love Americana. You're pure Americana. And I'm still, you know, was research. But my 13-year-old son's really smart. There's a lot of research. He watches all the debates. He just really loves you. He is on Cloud 9 that you're here, Rex Jones.

And it was his. question, you know, which president was your favorite? But all the time. So there's my proof. That's my, that's my substitute Soul Reaper card. Okay. Like that's, I've been around for a while. I've cared about this stuff for a while, but I didn't care about it on the, you know, YMCA dance red tie level. I cared about it because I finally saw somebody that came out there and said something different that wasn't promising me lies. And the first election I remember watching was Romney versus Obama. And I paid very careful attention to it. I followed with the candidates. I learned who they were, learned about Mitt Romney, learned about Barack Obama, who, of course, I knew from 2008.

And it just was so phony and so fake. And the energy wasn't there. I was like, what is this? We don't have a real choice. And it seems like we're back in that time period because it's not the Trump of 2016 that's challenging the power structure, challenging authority. In some ways and all ways, I would say he's become the very epitome of the swamp. Yeah, I think he's been captured by a ruling kleptocratic oligarchy is the way that I've been saying it. I don't want that to be the case.

And let me just say a little bit about political bias for people who aren't aware is that I'm one of the few pollsters out there that will acknowledge that all pollsters actually are biased. But the whole point is like I talk and I give you my numbers. And you can make your own judgment about my numbers and the track record and how it holds up as well as how objective I'm being about the things I talk about. And the reason the Trump administration was important to me and why I have no problems talking about, talking about the fact that it was very objectively good for America that Trump won in 2024 was because that all of his policies were more popular than he was. Like this is the platform that America's wanted.

Americans wanted economic reform. They wanted the government held accountable. They really just want to return to order and a restoration of the American dream. And so you have all these people that are now still part of MAGA who feel kind of like they're on a sinking ship, to be honest with you and unwilling to jump off. Not really like understanding that criticism of Trump is really the only way that you have to create a feedback loop in order to try and get him back on track for the things that Americans voted for. And it has not really objectively worked very well. I mean, we saw the wheels start to come off really around Liberation Day in Operation Midnight Hammer and then the Epstein stuff and then the stuff he said in October and November.

And each of these things ratcheted up, the concern. again, not in your person who voted for Romney and was happy about it, but in your person that desperately wanted the people inside the Republican Party, like Romney, like Ryan, to be punished the same way that Trump was doing in those early debates. And that's when he won me over, you know, it was like, I want to see the Republican Party treated with the same disrespect that Trump treated all those people in that. The word I remember is wrecking ball. I remember everyone's saying now, he's going to be a wrecking ball.

for the system. Yeah, you had Michael Moore say he was going to be a Molotov cocktail or something, those lines rolled down the aisle of Congress. And it's like we can objectively say, well, I will admit that in 2016, my opinion of what was required for a person in the executive was a lower bar. Like we are in a much worse place than we were back then. Yes. But I would also say, I think objectively, and the voters agree with me, you know, everybody,

but about like over 50% of Republicans. Everybody else says that this administration is worse than the original Trump administration, right? So he doesn't even have all these Republicans on board. And by a margin of 50% to 33%, Americans say that he's delivered on his promises less than recent presidents, 50 to 33%. So, I mean, you could bring up his approval rating, which is probably around 40, 41%, depending on the poll. but there's this aspect of like he isn't delivering on what he promised. And this is like you can argue about the level of deportations every month. And that would be a valid argument.

But that's not the way public opinion works. You do not get to pick and choose what you get credit for. And when you have a really hard time being a national leader and staying on message for your agenda that had a mandate, then you are going to piss off a lot of people that are going to feel like you're putting other interests first, they're going to feel betrayed, they're going to feel like you're not the same human. You know, we actually saw these things very early in the second Trump administration. Remember Zuckerbucks? So true.

So true. So, including most Democrats, was like, why is Zuckerberg funding elections? That's not right. It was over, it was almost an 80% position to get this guy's money out of elections. And then he was one of the first people that got invited to wine and dine. That's like 1890s, gilded age plutocrat behavior. Yes. And you've seen it over and over again.

And that's so key to point out. And I've been saying this often, you know, history often rhymes, 1929 Great Depression. It feels like we're in the golden age, really a gilded age, right? And I think you describe perfectly the psychosis, which is you'll criticize a policy. It's like, hey, I'm anti-war. I want cheap energy. I want America to be first. And when you say those things, they go, stop attacking the president.

And you go, well, if that counts as attacking the president to you, don't you understand that you're seeing it through the lens of your defending your dear leader instead of standing for what we all voted for? Yeah, I mean, one of the conversations that sticks out to me most that I had with your dad is about whether Trump had said, well, he wants to be on Mount Rushmore. And I think it's important to point out that there are two Republican presidents on Mount Rushmore. One of them is Lincoln and he's suspended habeas corpus and fought the civil war and emancipated the slaves. And it's like, okay, like, good job, buddy. Like, you deserve it. The other one is Teddy Roosevelt. And apparently Trump really likes Teddy Roosevelt.

I haven't been there, but apparently he has the Teddy Roosevelt room designed really nicely. And this guy inherited a very similar situation. He had a degradation of the American culture due to a mass influx of immigrants who were undercutting wages. He had a concentration of wealth and power. He had basically oligarchs popping up everywhere, oligarchies. They literally were writing songs back in the 1890s and 1900s, popular songs about how monopolies needed to be busted up and like, you know, the hand that holds the bread. There are some like, you know, this was a major part of what they were dealing back there with back then,

is that basically your American citizen had absolutely no economic power or freedom because these people were making backroom smoke-filled deals. And that's the way the government was run. And you know what he did is he came in and said, you know what? No, America is supposed to be fair and everybody needs a square deal. You know what I mean? It can't just be like, you know, survival of the fittest capitalism and expect things to come out okay. And people called him the great regulator because he thought that the government's role was to regulate everything and make sure that there was opportunity for people. And right now, you know, it's great we had Trump as an economic populace.

But if you go to literally any Republican on the hill in a think tank, on a staffer position, and ask them, do we want more or less? regulations, they would say, well, obviously we need to deregulate. And it's like, really? You know what I mean? Like, has that worked out for us over the last 30 or 40 years? No, it has done free trade and globalization and offshoring. But like 99 cents out of every dollar that gets spent of Republican donor bucks that goes to think tanks for economics is all to support those self-same ideologies that have, in my

opinion, assisted the Democrats in hollowing out the middle class for the last 30 or 40 years. And so, like, I had the chance, as I talked about with your dad, to talk with Trump and say almost a year ago that he was going to lose. And if he didn't, like, if he couldn't stay on focus with the economic populist and government reform mandate. And it's like every day, you have to wake up and hammer that. And you could get away with other stuff. You could probably have gotten away with Iran if it hadn't, you know,

done damage to the global economy, but it just hasn't been a focus. It's not what he's interested in. And it's not what the people who surround him are interested in. It's not what Fox News certainly is interested in. Fox News is one of their jobs, in my opinion, is to run cover for the Republican-leaning. It's like North Korea media. Let's just be honest. It's like, hail the deer leader, he makes the birds sing in the morning.

He played a perfect game of golf when he was five years old. And it seems to me, and you're the expert in this, this is what I want to ask you, it seems to me there's one demographic in this country, specifically the boomers, the older people that have fallen for this hook line and sinker. And what I think it comes down to is like I'm 23, about to be 24 years old. I look at people that are millennials. I look at people that are Gen X. And although they had a longer period in the country where things were truly good and things were cheap and you really had that advancement, still the vestiges of the American dream, we've all grown up or grown old in a time period where the country is really declining. And it

It seems like there's this one group that is both insulated enough because of stock market purchases, because of homes, because of XYZ. They've had time to get established where they can take the pain of the war. They can take the pain of the bad economy and they can justify it by saying, I remember the America of the 1970s, the 1980s, we were the true global hegemal. We were the true kings and queens of earth. We could go around like Roman citizens with our passports and do whatever we want. And I think they still have this perception of America as being in that 20th century time period. We're a nation that's been at war for over 30 years. We're a nation that's in $40 trillion of debt.

We're a nation that's taken on tens of millions of illegal migrants. We're a nation that's expanded H-1B programs. We've got people flooding in from all over the planet, all over the world. And you have Americans that not only vote for Trump, but a majority. He wins the popular vote in 2024, running on securing the border, no new wars, peace through strength, economic stability. And I just see all four of those pillars is totally violated. And I think it does stem from that population of older folks. I want to show, crew, if we can get this up, footage of this latest rally.

And it's the same thing I noticed about Byron Donald's, the same thing I noticed about Ed Gowran. You go to these rallies or you watch videos of these rallies. The median age is probably 75 years old. And I just, I want to play this clip of this rally and this lady talking about her views on Trump here. Let's roll those back to back. I want to support our president.

He needs our support now more than ever because he's going to. got a fight on his hands against communism, against liberal, far leftists. He's got to know that the American people still supporting. So I look back at 2024 where the back of the Democratic Party was broken. Joe Biden, live on air, 404 error code steam shooting out of his ears, sparks coming out. He implodes. The Easter Bunny. Exactly.

Dapping up the Easter Bunny. And then he got Kamala Harris, who is soundly defeated. You have the Republicans in ascendancy. I thought they were going to rain for a thousand years. But now the only people that are still able to justify what the administration is doing, they're just parroting the talking points. And it's like, hey, you're afraid of the communist, right? Hey, you're afraid of the socialist, right?

They're coming in to get you. These people were destroyed merely two years ago. Now they're in ascendancy within the youth simply because the older population, specifically the 60 out of 99 senators that are boomers that struck down the war powers resolution. Our president Trump born in 1946, they're focused on their old worldview. What's your opinion of that? I mean, this is the fight of the entire future of the right that we're talking about. And it is 100% true.

Now, before I get into the age discussion, I want to be very clear is that these are directional trends. And by no means are all boomers like this. Sure. There is really kind of like a break point at around the age 50. And it really is kind of like, did you grow up with the internet or not is what separates a lot of this. Do you watch Fox News or are you on Twitter? it very much, in my opinion, and the polling supports it, affects what these people care about. Now, they, so what you're seeing now is that Trump undermined a 2024 coalition that included a lot more Democrats,

independents, socialists, brown people, like just a lot more of those kind of folks, young people than your average Republican electorate has been, right? You got about 60 million of these boomers in silence and older Gen X's. that will turn out no matter what for a Republican ticket. And in fact, Trump probably lost some of them because he wasn't presidential or whatever, right? And those people do support mass deportations. They do support, like, most MAGA things. They will talk about wanting to be put first economically.

But at the same time, they're also more likely to do things like support the wars. Like, there's about 60% of current Republicans that do support the wars and stuff like that and do say that Trump is still doing a great job. and a lot of it is because either, again, they're news consumption patterns or because they're not aware of how bad it is for the youth or because it doesn't affect them, right? And these people are very pro-capitalists.

And what you're seeing is that the under 40 voter now, socialism and capitalism are tied. In fact, socialism wins under 40. It's tied with the 40 to 50-year-olds, right? Now, everybody thinks we live in a capitalist system, but the under 40 voters overwhelmingly, by almost a seven out of ten in margin, think that our current capitalist system is unfair to young people.

And we know why. We have tons of polling. And obviously, it's about their inability to get good paying jobs. And it's about the housing market. And if you look at things like housing market, there is a very big incentive to lean into sort of the boomer side of that equation. And as Trump has done multiple times,

and as I told him it was unwise to do, and I'm not saying, like, crash the housing market. But again, it's like, this is about, how you talk about the future of the country under Republican governance. He brags about it. And the things that he said. So you're just saying like, you're telling these people, there's no room for you in the future that Republicans envision.

That's what they're hearing. Sure. And it's the same on the war, same on H-1Bs, student visas, like all of these things. The 50-year mortgage was a slap in the face. And, but like my point is, is everything I'm talking about is about messaging. It's not about whether you did or did not bring down the price of eggs. It's about whether you're going to actually come out and support workers and appear to be at least like somewhat inconvenient to large corporations who have gotten their way over and over again. And the problem is, is that the older people again love capitalism, think it's been working, think Trump can do no wrong, and don't really care about the under 40 messaging.

And I will say, like, on some of these things, they're catching up. So like we just asked about Israel versus Palestine support not too long ago. and only 34% of people support Israel now. It's in the low 20s, I think. I think it was 24% among Zoomers. But the boomers are down to 52. And so they've come a long way. Like we're getting to a place where a lot of them sort of are like, quote, unquote, waking up.

But the problem is, it's like you have this like voting preference, you know, what becomes the core of the party's message. And right now, what we're seeing. is because we haven't had that great of a Trump second term, objectively, based on the polling, that they're reverting their messages to unhelpful boomer-focused messages that are going to make the ability to get these youth back into the coalition very hard. Yes. And just to give you an example, it's like those people are crazy socialists and they want to put you in a ditch and shoot you. And it's an existential fight between conservatism and socialism.

I'm sorry, but the under 40 voter, half of the voters that went to Trump under 40 say they would support socialists. And they actually overwhelmingly support socialistic policies like wealth redistribution. They just do. They want capitalism. And they're not socialists, but they say they would vote for somebody branded as a socialist. And so, like, it's a very nuanced thing to unpack. So it's like you look at Hassan Piker and he does want to put you in a ditch and shoot you. He does.

And some of these DSA candidates are 100% Marxist Trojan horses. And some of their voters are insane and violent. They absolutely are. And are socialists and want the state to run the economy. But not most of them. Most of them are saying socialist because they just think that that's why, like, you know, Norway has good health care. Right. Like that's what they really want.

And most of the people under 40 are not ideological. Like you say conservatism to them that are like, well, screw you. conservatism doesn't work. Why would I support it? What these people are is they want accountability and brutal action. And so when you look at all these things like, like Doche was most popular with the under 40 voter, arresting people for things like the Autopan or the rate of Mar-a-Lago, like overwhelmingly the younger people are more likely to want arrests, blowing up narco boats. It was most popular with people under 40. And so when you say, well, we have to be a constitutional conservative country and you know what I mean.

But like there's so many problems what's going on. So now it's like... Let me come in here really quick. It's really about getting back on message, right? Like that's what people like they say criticize Trump. I really am against Trump. Now I have to be honest because I think he's aiding and abetting a genocide. The Netanyahu is doing.

You talk about fighting the cartels. We spent over a hundred billion dollars, not including destroyed bases, radars, planes, missile defense, air interceptors, blah, blah, blah. We spent over $100 billion fighting a third. 39-day war with Iran. Why can't we fight the cartel in Mexico? Why can't we fight the cartel in South America? That's not the priority. And I think it's key to point out, you talk about oligarchy earlier. We live in a mixed economy. This is not capitalism when the government owns invidia, when the government invests in AI and does all these things. That ultimately is the

kleptocracy, oligarchy that you're talking about. So when you tell young people this is capitalism when it's really not, when you tell young people, this is the fighting against communism when it's really not, it's about enriching and grifting, right, for the administration, in my view. When that is the messaging, of course you're going to have young people that don't know anything about politics, they're going to sign up with Hassan Piker because at least he's saying something different. And ultimately what it comes down to, I like this analogy, that Lady of the Lake that gave Trump that sword, it was a weapon. Okay, it was a weapon to slash the swamp, to defeat the swamp, and he turned around and he used that blade on us. But before so, in 2016, 2020, of course, his entire thing of calling out the left is from day one.

he used that same sword on them. So they were wounded in a justifiable way. But now they can say, look at my wound. You have the same wound from the same sword. Don't you want to pledge yourself to me and my banner? And this is why I really think we do need that new side of the right, the Tucker, MTG, Joe Kent Wing to really come forward to make themselves prominent because they can say, hey, we were wounded by this same weapon.

And we were wounded in an unjustifiable way, just like you were. We were loyal to the promises of the administration. We were loyal to peace through strength. No new wars. bringing economic prosperity back. And instead of getting that, we were kicked out of Congress. We had to resign on principle, XYZ. I mean, look at him up there.

He was given that blade by the American people, the Lady of Lake, Lady Liberty, and he turned around and he rammed that sword through our gut. And the only people that don't see it that way are over the age of 50. And that's kind of just the reality. And I've done these street interviews. I've talked to these people. And they'll say, Iran is the evil theocracy. We must do anything to stop them because the Ayatollah runs around with the club and box

women on the head. in reality we're five years yeah 40s hold on it's a 47 year war but it's also not a war we might have to fight it another 20 years though and you're like what i i thought we were going to stop foreign wars i thought we were going to abolish foreign entanglements i thought we were actually going to make maga make america great again have maga it's turned into mega make israel great again and the president he he let it slip he said make iran great again i think we all really know what that means and it's really disgusting to me specifically as a young person as someone that wants to be an American. I want to have that like a Roman level of sovereignty

to see my nation brought low and made to fight these foreign wars not just right now, but over the past 30 years, to ensure another country's regional and eventually global hegemony. And I think young people are waking up to that. You had that poll talking about the Israel versus Palestine issue, of course, and young people, what was the number again for that? down to about one and four zoomers support Israel over Palestine. And Palestine, I think, was in the 40s. So it ain't overwhelmingly popular. A lot of people are saying not sure.

But the message is that inexorably over the last three years, Israel has literally destroyed its support to the level where, depending on the poll, four to one people think five to one, I think it was, Israel had too much influence in the Trump administration. And that's a dangerous place to be. It simply put, it's live stream genocide. And the thing is, when you have young people under the age of 50 that were raised with the internet, know how to use a cell phone, it's undeniable the weapons that we give them what they use them for. They murder little children. They carpet bomb cities. And they want to say there's not a genocide. They want to say only 30,000 people have died. But then 80,000 people have died in Iran. And they just throw these numbers out like nobody's going to notice. And I got to say, I mean, I got a Mexican friend who works at a taco truck voted for Trump in 2024. I got my co-os, Tim Tompkins, a black guy. from New York. You voted for Trump after being a lifelong Democrat. You got those people on board

because they believed in the promise of actually having that peaceful, prosperous nation. And that's the exact opposite of what we've gotten. What do you think the moment was for Trump where he truly lost all that support? Was it Operation Midnight Hammer with the young people? Was it the Iran war starting February 28th? Was it before that? Was it another policy? What sticks out to you as a pollster as a watershed moment? Let me just say one thing first. I agree with 100% of what you're saying. And not all boomers think like that. But the reason we single them out is because there is a very specific set of boomer arguments,

which are colloquially referred to as the same set. You know, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Iran has been in a war for 47 years with us. And the reason why there's a problem here is it because when you stack rank a video of murdering children against some Fox News generated boomer argument or somebody like Dan Bongino going out and doing Air Ninja against the black pillars.

Guess which one is going to win that argument? And so there's an aspect of inauthenticity about this administration that makes them feel like a boomer-focused administration. Tony! Yeah, they're referring to 20, 30, 40-year-old talking points. They're hearkening back to the days of 2003 when Republicans were all supposed to hate Muslims,

but I'm old enough to remember when we had Muslims for Trump in Dearborn, Michigan and stuff like that, right? And everybody was all happy about that, and it was only two years ago. So something has flipped. And I do think part of that is that we are, there's the fourth turning coming. I think there's going to be a youth political revolution because about two million boomers die a year and about four million young people are added to the electorate every year. That's like a six million vote net impact in an electorate that's only 150 million people and it's going to accelerate. And these people, again, the millennials specifically were brought up 9-11. They were brought up through COVID.

They were brought up through all of the statist overreaches of the Biden administration. They've seen a lot of psychological operations and they are very, very, very good at spotting when somebody has somebody else's interest. And so this is, in my opinion, one of the critical failures of the Trump administration. And your question about when did it happen, I think it was a very gradual process, right? And I think it's been some waking up. Like, I think the first sign, like we all saw things like, oh, John Thune got selected. Okay, well, maybe it's not that bad, right? Or, you know what I?

Like, all the early stuff. It was definitely being overpowered by the project 2025 executive orders. It was definitely being overpowered by the stuff that Elon had said. But the first big rug pull was Doge because Doge said they're going to cut a trillion dollars in deficit. It had huge support. 72% of America wanted Doge's. audits in every federal government, and everybody thinks the government is just completely full of waste for unabuse.

That was the best thing Republicans ever had. They had a 60% youth approval rating. And as far as I can tell, Trump and Republicans killed Doge behind the scenes because they were not willing to deal with either the political blowback of firing federal workers, but I think the young people wanted to drink the tears of federal workers. And it was your MSNBC Karen who didn't like the idea of these people being fired. I'm generalizing here. Like these people wanted a Caesar in March.

These younger people wanted a Caesar. And Trump did have an opportunity, as I told him, because we asked a question about Trump's quote. Does he who save his country violate no laws? And I'm pretty sure it was close to 60% of the under 40s that agreed with that. But it was like maybe in the 30s among older people. The older people are like, no, this system still works. And that's like ultimately the problem why there's going to be a youth uprising because boomers the silent generation hold pretty close to 65% of the wealth in this country.

But guess what? They also receive about 60% of the entitlement programs. And so there's, you see the problem. Can I come in here? Yeah, I'm never getting these entitlement programs. I'm not getting Social Security. I'm not getting Medicare. I'm not getting Medicaid.

And I understand why that is, but the average voter, average young voter doesn't get that. And I want to come in and talk about this three takeaways from what you just said. When we talk about the boomer thing, I understand not all boomers. We can't use it as a monolith, got plenty of people that are older and awake and are also in the fight and want the truth and want to stop the wars and want to bring prosperity back to America. But the neocons spirit exists and was generated by that generation. This is the key. We were in ascendancy. We were the world hegemon after World War II that their parents fought in.

And it's kind of this stolen valor that was carried forward and they hold it over our head as an excuse. We don't live in the same country anymore. The demographics aren't the same. The culture's not the same. The spirit's not the same. And when you have somebody like Lindsey Graham and all these other never Trumpers who you, I know you remember because I remember as well, all these people who literally ran against Trump who hated Trump, they are now the only people that he has left. And this is what's truly shocking to the younger voter, right? I'm a fan of Thomas Massey.

I'm a fan of MTV. I'm a fan of Tucker. These are Trump's, you know, not Massey, but MTV and Tucker, these are really Trump's most staunch loyal people that he relied on and depended on during his darkest hour, during his darkest day. and now all the same people that were laughing and clinking champagne glasses when he was indicted, were saying he was going to go to jail forever. Those people are now in the White House or on the phone with him or giving him orders. And what you're really talking about here with all this stuff with the youth getting upset enough to do something about it is the super cycle. You call it the fourth turning.

I like to call it the super cycle. We're coming up against that now. You can feel it. You can taste it in the air. And there are still people that are covering their hand in front of their eyes and they can't see the writing on the wall. It's obvious to you. It's obvious to me because we cover this stuff every single day. You at a much deeper level.

Is it undeniable at this point? I mean, something messy is going to happen because all the metrics have just been getting worse and worse. We got up to 43% of Americans thought a civil war was likely in the next couple of years. And if you ask Americans who their biggest enemies are and include the Republican and Democrat Party, you get China, Democrats, Russia, then Republicans, basically is how it shakes out, depending on when you ask the question. Iran, by the way, is like fifth or six. Nobody cares about Iran, obviously, because they're worried about domestic policy.

They're worried more about domestic terrorism and foreign terrorism by almost three to one. And it's like, I think what we're going to see, I think the young people are smart enough to know this and are starting to pick this up, which is why we can get to it. I'm very positive and optimistic about what Tucker's doing for a very specific reason. But when they, I think it's fair to say that both establishment parties, the Republicans and Democrats, are owned by corporate interests. They might have their pet industries, but they're both part of the uniparty kleptocracy. So when people say uniparty, there is this red-blue kabuki theater specifically to maintain corporate status quo. Now, there is, in the presidency, a lot of power to do things from a foreign policy perspective. And so when you get a Democrat or Republican, those things, the pendulum does swing.

And I think it's fair to say that the general impetus behind Democrat neoconservatism is the Bolsheviks that are anti-Stalinist Russia that still want to wage a land war with NATO and take over Russia because that's what we saw under Biden, right? Right. And then under Republicans, it's increasingly Zionist neoconservatives who want to use their influence over the government to fight to blow up brown people in the Middle East, basically, right? And so that is the system that we're captured under. And we're starting to see the tactics they use. So the Bolsheviks will unhuman the right and call them MAGA extremists and shoot Charlie Kirk and talk about how CEOs need to die. And it's effective because the blue people drink up this brainwashing and they have this violent tendency. But they're also very afraid of the right.

The left is more afraid of the right than the right is of the left. And then on the right, what you have is basically, oh, they're all Muslims and all Muslims have to go. And, you know, like these things like, oh, they're socialist. They want to put you in a ditch and shoot you. And so there's these very divisive scare tactics that I think have been used partly out of expediency, partly to cover for their own failures, but also to make sure that there isn't a threat to the status quo by some type of collaboration or coalition of specifically it would be the youth because they're more angry with the system. They have less to live for.

Increasingly, they're under-employed and they're not getting married and they're a powder keg. And at the same time, they are not, again, a monolith. So remember, the under-40 Trump voter is very socialistic and they're very extreme in what level of force they want applied in order to correct the system. I did some polling that showed that 55% of under-40 conservatives. conservatives actually said they would support putting control of the legislative process in the United States at a federal level in charge of a governed by an advanced AI. So they literally want Mecca Hitler. We talked about it on the show back in the fall.

And so that's not conservatives need to win and socialists need to go into a ditch. That is not what we're talking about. And it's not even deport all Muslims because Sharia law is our biggest threat in America. Like these people see the government as a threat. They see people getting away with murder at a federal government level as a threat. They see these big corporations as a threat and they don't think the system works for them. So now when you look at a Tucker, I think something very important is going on because this is a fourth turning thing. So we have a post-World War II era of peace and harmony and social cohesion because we went through a major crisis.

And they formed the people who did that, formed strong institutions. and institutions tend to be focused on principles, things like, you know, spreading democracy, things like remembering the Holocaust and being free market conservatives. And those things have failed. Like they're falling apart. Like our systems don't have integrity anymore. And this is the cycle you're talking about. And so what happens is you get leaders from a younger generation who realize that the core of our society has no morals and values. and they build new institutions around morals and values.

So what did Tucker come out with? Everybody's like, well, there's no policies. How can you govern with that? Well, no, he put out the morals and values that many people can agree with. And the reason I think, like, just to give you an example, that's very important, is that Trump had a policy, for instance, mass deportations. And he didn't really say, like, like, he's like, we got to get them out and they're violent criminals. And like, he had reasons, right?

But I think a lot of people mapped on to that. well, it's because the rule of law or it's because it's fair and it's not fair to me that they're here. And then it's like, okay, well, when he turns and no longer supports full deportations and actually supports a lot of these people who are hard workers and wants a path of amnesty for them, then clearly it wasn't about the fairness. You know what I mean? Because now all of a sudden it's fairness to the illegal is what we're worried about. And so all of a sudden, like this is what's driving these betrayals is that people mapped all of these morals and values. the younger people onto Trump's policies, and it turns out that in many cases

it was just a load of crap. That's super key. That's super key. The older voter has just this faith in the system. Oh, they're going to figure it out. It's designed to work. We're going to have, you know, just this general evolution where things get better.

The young people say general evolution where things get better, things have gotten worse for my entire life. And like myself as a small business owner, okay, I sell retail goods. I sell supplements. I sell them. I do the whole thing, nose to tail.

And consumer sentiment about buying products is now basically at an all-time low. And I'm seeing this where I was doing business under Biden. I was mad at Biden. I thought it was bad. I mean, holy hell, look at what we have now. And I got friends losing jobs. I got friends losing family members to drugs, all the same problems.

And they're essentially just telling you to work harder and figure it out. And it's like you're saying, young people aren't trying to vote for liberalism or conservatism. They're either voting for like a Hassan Piker communist land or Mecca Hitler. And it's a completely foreign world. world to somebody that was born immediately after World War II, in my view and opinion. And here's why that matters, even more so than the voters. That's who we have in office right now.

That's what the president is. What do you think about that? It's 100%. And it's going to change and it's going to change very fast. Just like the other numbers, over 60% of our legislative federal representatives are boomers or silent generation. I think it's like single digits are zoomers and millennials. It might be over 10% now.

well, that's going to flip in about 10 years. And you're starting to see a cycle in 28 where you're going to have the first leading candidates for president are going to be millennials. And that's going to be very new because we can all look at JD and say, depending on what you think of him or even what his positions are, he talks very differently than Trump. And he definitely is worried about young people and reflects this need to put the constituent first. and I think you could say that about the DSA people as well because, you know, like people just don't get this, but Trump had a 60% approval rating with the under 40 voter and so did Mom Donnie six months later.

You know what I mean? Like it's just like you can call them Muslim all you want, but at the end of the day, these young people are kind of tired of that crap. It's about populism. It's about populism. They want an America that works, and I think they're increasingly seeing through things like, oh, the LGBT culture war issue.

It's like, fine. Yes, a majority of people are against transing the kids in the United States. But at the end of the day, if that's going to be your platform, Nancy Mace, it's like you're not speaking to the things that these people care about. You just, you're not. So, I mean, like, I don't know how Republicans get them out of this particular situation they're in because they basically, like, screw the pooch in a way that's going to be looked back as, like, just this legendary miscalculation of the American people. And it's like because of people like me, like they had warning. Like I was, you asked before, when did it really hit the fan? So like Doge, people were like, oh, and some people tuned out, right?

Then Liberation Day happened and some people were like, oh, that's kind of chaotic. And some people tuned out. But Trump did have a plus four net approval rating the day before Israel started the 12-day war in June of 2025. And it immediately went down to negative eight. There was a 12-point drop in like a three-week period. Now, it's hard to say it's all Operation Midnight Hammer because the one big beautiful bill was getting pushed through at the same time. Nobody really cared. And then Epstein hit. And so Epstein was so bad, this case closed, Pam Bondi has to be like some kind of like subversive agent because she had some of the most egregious

symbolic counter signaling statements. Case closed was one of them. And we went into the field and found out that only 20% of Republicans agree that the case was closed. And it's like everybody thinks there's wealthy and powerful people that are predators that need to go to jail. It was like over 70% That's what made me done with it. That's what made me done with it for good forever. That's what made me leave support of the administration in any regard was, hey, you have Cash Patel, Dan Bonino, Pam Bondi. Like, Cash Patel, Dan Bonino, specifically running on this to get their appointments. And then you have Pam Bondi who says, I have the files on my desk.

I've seen the tapes, the videos of thousands of hours of child porn. And they say, oh, Epstein's not even a pedophile. Have you heard this? Like my polling, in my opinion, showed that about 5 to 10% of independence just checked out and never came back from a Trump approval perspective. Right. After the Epstein thing. And everybody was talking about it. It's like, and of course, I was called to panic in.

Everybody who said something, again, even though it was only a 20% position in the Republican Party, there was a coordinated online press by MAGA influencers and probably some foreign bots to, you know, really like say, no, nothing to see here. Like, we don't worry. Epstein's not. This isn't what people voted for. Remember, like, Trump never said Epstein. And, like, it was just obviously not going to work, right? And then there were other things along the way. But by the time I got to talk to Trump in November, remember, he had gone after Massey so hard,

an MTG that he had basically made them the primary enemies of his administration. Yes. And these were people that, like, Americans, whether you like Massey or not, it's like, well, he did stand up for America with the Epstein Transparency Act. And Marjorie Taylor Green was like OG MAGA. And it's like these things matter. When you fight MTG and Massey more than you do John Thune, who's not putting any of your legislative agenda through, like what's going on here? When you're endorsing rhinos up and down all these tickets and fighting MTG and Massey.

So one of the things I said to Trump is like, listen, you have to present a coherent vision going forward of what Republican governance looks like. You've got to stop gaslighting people that it's the golden age already. just because like what you said, all of the consumer sentiment and all, like, there's a million poll numbers, you know, 58% of Americans say that in the last 12 months they've changed their grocery shopping habits because they can't afford food anymore. Like all these numbers are just egregiously bad. So you're going to say we're in a golden age and then fight the very people that Americans are looking to for leadership because you're screwing up your own agenda. And I told them it's like you've got to fight, fight, fight for the American people and not for, not against. against MTG and Epstein. Right.

Like it was like Walter Ruffa Ducks back. Like it just wasn't like it was no, no, of course I'm going to continue to fight. They're my biggest enemy. Like I, and and so what we've seen since then is just this increasingly horrifying circular firing squad where there's there's grifters for an influence and probably some like political action committee funded bots who are just very committed to making sure MAGA stays a very particular. thing. And I mean, it's just... It's a cult now. It's become a cult fully because what's the rule of the main, what's the main rule of the cult? You can't criticize the leader, right? And you can't criticize Trump. And he attacks people like Tucker, MTG, my father, Thomas Massey, you just go down list, you name it, everyone that he's tweeted about. And I'm about to read one of these tweets

here. He attacks them in the same way that he attacks the Democrats like they're equivalent. And when you do that to the independent voter, if it was a Tucker that brought a man or an Alex Jones that brought him in or Thomas Massey that brought him into the coalition. Like, wow, you're ragging on my favorite person that sold me you as a political product because they believed in your platform. And now you've completely divorced yourself from that political platform. You're attacking them. You're attacking the Democrats. Why should I care about anything the GOP ever has to say again? You made a key point earlier. I'm going to read this Tucker or tweet about Tucker NTG in a second from the president, where he says, praise Allah to Tucker, MTV and Massey. We'll get into that.

What are we doing, man? I know. It did. Dude, it's like waking up every day and being on hallucinogenic drugs. Is this not insane? Like, we were not expecting this, right? This is the guy that was the king of Twitter. You cannot be the king of Twitter without astutely understanding public opinion and like learning from the feedback loop that is an open dialogue. He is in an echo chamber quite objectively, I think, right now.

Because remember in 2016, who is he fighting? He was fighting Obama? He was fighting neoconservatives and he was fighting Rosie O'Donald on Twitter. Those were the people he was fighting. And now it's like your dad and Tucker. Like what are we doing here? Like this is who his biggest enemies are right now. And the biggest rift, I hate to say it, but the biggest rift between the people who are on his list of enemies and the people who are on his side.

Now his friends is one little postage stamp in the Levant. Like that's the problem, in my opinion. Yes. It's a problem where we have the. kabuki theater like you say of all the Democrats and Republicans, we're going to mess each other up. But then when Netanyahu comes to town, he gets nine standing ovations. And they don't agree on anything else. They don't agree on anything else.

But when he comes to town, they all stand up and they clap like seals because, in my opinion, that's who really runs the U.S. at least our foreign policy. They take us to war. Mark another country took us to war. Marco Rubio, and I quote, Israel was going to attack. We feared American soldiers would die in the retaliation. So we had to join in. it was only going to be 24 to 48 hours.

That's literally the stated explanation as to why 18 American soldiers are dead now. Over 500 soldiers, most of them severely injured with traumatic brain injury. Like, ultimately, they want to blame us, the people that were loyal to the ideology and the mission of MAGA that we voted for in 2024, the campaign ads that are going to be run. I want to talk to you about this. Of the coffins coming home. Of Trump saying, I like it when inflation goes up. I like it that houses are more expensive.

I like that it's good for the economy, essentially everything bad that's happening. You put that in a commercial. People that don't know anything about politics are going to hear that and it's going to piss them off, right? Yeah, I didn't even think about some of those because there's an even more egregious one that's coming, and the Democrats have been preparing it for a very long time. What is it? So you have the Epstein Transparency Act that was signed by Rokana and Thomas Massey. It was bipartisan.

And the Democrats voted for it, right? And Trump came out hostile against the Epstein Transparency Act. And his DOJ didn't even actually follow the law as far as releasing everything. I think it could be said, right? And so they very predictably created an issue out of this. They're calling Trump the Epstein class. And he's surrounded by a lot of billionaires. He looks like a plutocrat.

He behaves like one with the ballroom and the fixation on these things. The billions as well of grifting. Yeah. And so, yeah. And they're raising money, right? And so he's creating his own problem here where I think what we're going to see is that for over a year, they've been preparing real investigations into corruption within the Trump administration. And so they're going to start dropping.

I heard September 1st, I think, did Axios run a story or somebody who's talked about how Rokana said this stuff is coming out? And they're going to go after apparently the foreign business deals with the Trump family. They're going to subpoena the corporations involved in some of these. They're going to go after what happened in antitrust. I think they might go after the pardon sales. I don't know. But like when you run an ad and it's like look at this Epstein class. Trump fought this release and he's surrounded by billionaires.

And all he cares about is billionaires and not you. And they're stealing from you. And here's why. That's going to be really damaging. And they created that like situation themselves. And it's like you literally gave it to the Democrats. on a silver platter. Like, this isn't, they had to leak some call with Zelensky and Nancy Pelosi had enough votes to put together some, like, dog and pony show.

Like, they have a plan and they've learned not to impeach Trump. Trump's out there saying they're going to impeach him. I think that they would be wise not to and literally just decimate his entire administration with these horrible things. And it'll be like, trust us, we're the government. And he's an outsider and he stole everything. and the billionaires are bad and vote for Democrat, socialist. It'll be that kind of thing, right? This is my question, okay?

What does the pardon mean? Because he said, oh, the pardon is the most powerful thing that I have. And there's been a lot of implication made in the past about the auto pin going after Biden, going after Fauci, all these reasons. I think that would be low-hanging fruit, right? 2014, that pardoned, that pardoned, in 2014. Why is he pardoned in 2014? Well, that's when the payments started going from EcoHealth Alliance to the Wuhan Institute of Irology, allah COVID-19. but in my opinion, in my view, he can't ever call those into question because he doesn't want his called into question.

What do you think about the potential of that? Well, I would issue a challenge to Trump. First, let me say, Fauci is actually even still more popular than the people that conducted the auto pen thing. If you explain to people the auto pen pardon and then ask if those people should be arrested or not, especially the young people, it's a strong majority. So there's still people who trust Fauci, believe it or not. Like, not all of them, right? but like this is an easier one, right? It's like we know this.

It went through House Oversight Committee. They gave criminal referrals, I think, to the DOJ about the pardoned, the pardoned auto pen thing. And nothing happened. Well, one can only conspiratorially wonder why the sitting president wouldn't want to undermine his own pardon power, right? But here's a person who hasn't been pardoned. Majorcas has not been pardoned.

Oh, yes. And Alejandro, my orcas. Go ahead. Yeah. And he objectively managed the largest violation of U.S. national sovereignty in the history of our nation, right? Like, that was him. Why don't we see him in front of, like, what are we doing? If you can't get that guy.

And like, this is on top of like the Brennan's of the world, right? It's like, you haven't even heard that name, Majorcas. Why is that? Why have we not heard anything about that guy? And it's like, okay, not in the interest of the people who backed the Republican Party. party to actually really get to the bottom of any of these things. And I think what we're seeing, again, is still theater, unfortunately, to maintain the status quo. Has Trump always been this person?

No, but I think in the last year or two, again, it's, I don't want to blame him too hard. Like, I'm sure it would have captured everybody. But like, he's just, I think you can see the. Yeah. My reality with this, I just got to go deep and dark with it, because I think that's where the truth is on this. I think when he gets shot at in Butler, Pennsylvania, I think, think that was supposed to kill him. I think immediately after that, he probably got a call.

And they said, listen, we can do this again, 100, 200, 500 times. You'll never be safe. Your family will never be safe. Don't you want to make a lot of money, Mr. Trump? Don't you want to be president again? Yeah, exactly. Plata or plomo a la Pablo Escobar. That's a great point to make. And I think he took the money. And I think it's obviously financially, I think he's enriched himself between $2 to $4 billion. He took the money. I think it's obvious with that kind of echo chamber circle that he's rolling with now that he took the money. Can you blame him? I think you can because if you take that job, you're not just doing it to be the boss of America. You represent all of us. We the people. Okay. We have a representative of democracy, a constitutional republic. And you've got to be that man in the arena. And that's what he always purported himself to be. When you say fight, fight, fight, fight. What that really means is I'm willing to die. If you're truly willing to die, if you're truly willing to put your life out there on the line, then I think you deserve to be the American president. I don't think we've had one of those guys in quite a long time. I think Trump was probably the first guy in quite a long time that was. directly threatened, but in the reality, I want to go ahead and throw this tweet up, the praise

be to Allah. Yeah, first Alex, who wrote Man in the Arena, by the way? Teddy Roosevelt. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that guy again. Exactly.

That's a great point. I want to go ahead and throw this up. The Trump tweet, this is like lame duck stuff, man. This is just sad at this point. When I see this, it doesn't give me like a big oomph like it did when he came out against my dad the first time or Tucker the first time. Now everyone sees this and they roll their eyes. I don't know. Try to find the Trump meme where he's where he's crying a little bit and he's got like a long screw to paper if we can throw that up.

This is just something. I look at it and I just go, man, your nickname Marjorie Trader Green or Marjorie Taylor Brown because green turns to Brown under stress. That's not funny in the nursing home. I don't I don't care what you say. I'll read a little bit of it. Tucker Carlson just met with lightweight former congressman, congresswoman. and Thomas, oh, okay, Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green, losers all, Tucker's views, in quotations have fallen through the floor. That's not true at all. Tucker's bigger than ever and will only get worse. Nobody cares about him any longer. This is projection, confession by projection, and that he has become totally irrelevant and happens to be surprisingly a very low IQ individual. He could barely get out of college. Let's the name of talk about Wharton Business School. And maybe he didn't, but only really dumb people can't make it through that wonderful four-year time in life.

That's just showing his privilege, man, because I didn't go to. college. I actually didn't have that opportunity. Tucker wants to run for political office, but he should have been required to take a cognitive test. He's got no chance, but it could probably take a couple of points away from whatever Republican ticket happens to be. Tucker is a loser and always has been. Well, if he was always a loser, why was he your friend, Trump? And I just, I want to pause there. What do you think about that? Does that still have any bite anymore to anybody in, like, the polling world statistically? Like, is this just for the over 50 demographic? So if you take any standalone pollster in order to have an apples and apples comparison, like a New York Times or an Emerson, and you take Trump's current approval rating and compare it to George W. Bush's 2006 approval rating at the same time. What you're going to see is like within a point they're in the same place. And he was a nicer person. You know what I mean? Like I think we could all agree. And maybe that particular war was a little bit more unpopular. So there are some offsets.

But we're essentially looking at somebody, I mean, Bush left the final month of his office with like a 32% approval rating or something like really down there. So this could get a lot worse. And I think we're seeing things like this that show that it might. Because again, remember, 10 years ago, it would have been one sentence long. It would have been deadly smart. Perfect. It would have been focused on an actual enemy. And what we're doing here is basically chopping off our own appendages.

And so it's like you can argue about whether Tucker Carlson has more or less viewers than he's ever had, but he's still got millions. And so you're basically picking an enemy of people who should be the safest part of your coalition, right? And then look at that and it's like throw it through an AI and ask an AI to pick objective adjectives that describe the tone of that. And I think you'll see things like petty and thin-skinned and like divisive and insular. Like, you know what I mean? It's just all the things that you can't afford to be. There's no substance. He's not able to criticize him on anything because what they're loyal to are his old policies.

So he can just call you a loser, call you a traitor, call you a little IQ, call you dumb, but it's chopping the nose off despite the face. Wouldn't you agree? Even they're loyal to the underlying values of his old policies, which means that they're continuing to support what he originally. represented, right? You know what I mean? And it's like, again, it's not going to go one way or another. You're just, you're just splitting the movement here and you're making it more demoralized. And there's a case to be made based on the polling that the Republicans are going to underperform because most of these polls and the generic ballot that have a Democrat lead of on average, about seven points. It's narrowed a little bit. It's back to Democrat plus

seven. You know, most of those are registered voters. They're not really looking at likely voter behavior. They're not layering on top of that. The fact that Democrat voters have a 10-point, very enthusiastic lead, and that they've been crushing turnout across the board in Democrat primaries, and that the Democrats have outperformed the polling in almost every special election that we've had since the 2024 election.

And so, again, tough to predict what might happen, but we're going to see a lot of negative stuff come out about Republicans in the Trump administration between now and November, I don't think it's fair to say that we're going to see some resurgence of a cohesive feeling of momentum, which is what Trump would need in order to outperform the polling. And so, in my opinion, the case is going to be made that these are like solid pickups of the Democrat House and then probably the Senate, but he never had the Senate anyways. And the House is where all the action is going to be. That's literally what I was going to ask you is your opinion on 2026 and then 28 moving forward.

where do you see kind of the like widening political field? Is there some sort of bloodbath in the White House? Heard Flintez talk about this, the idea of people saying, hey, I'm going to go work for Rubio's campaign. Hey, I'm going to go work for Vance's campaign. Hey, I'm just going to get out of here because it's getting too hot. I think it's getting a little hot in that White House. And I think specifically, like, I'm a politics and war guy. I cover a lot of geopolitics.

This has been a very, like, domestic policy heavy show for me today, like thinking about the American people. Because when I think about the American people, I think about the war. because the war is undeniable. They say it's not a war, but it's been going on for 47 years, might need to stay in another 20 years to finish it, but it's already over, so it doesn't even matter. The four latest deaths in the war, Michael, Sarah, Tyler, and Angel, they didn't die in Operation Epic Fury. That's what Trump says. It says, hey, you know, it's a military operation, but it's not even a military operation, and it's not even a war, but it's also a war. I think you reach a level where the fallout and the midterms is going to be so extreme that that message is going to

be seen by people in the administration as undeniable and like they can't be a part of it anymore. I think that's when you're really going to start to see the splintering. What is your opinion on 2026 and 28 last like five minutes that we got you here? Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you conjecture as well as, again, the polling case, right? So Democrat plus seven should be adequate for them to take the House. And again, most of the cases that I could make are that they will overperform the polling. Now, there's a ton of caveats. If you look at like the Cook Political Report, they have 19 toss-ups.

They're not going to, they're not picking a winner right now. 15 of those 19 toss-ups are Republicans, and most of those, like 13 of them, were only won by a margin of single digits, like under five. And so those could be close. But we've also had redistricting. And so the Republicans won the redistricting fight might have like a 15, whatever, seed advantage there. But the redistricting was all based on a Trump 2024 turnout. And so maybe we aren't going to see that. So there's, and then you have the whole financial situation and how good the advertising is going to be.

And then you also have the aspect of Democrat ballot harvesting, which I still think is a major issue. So again, it's tough to predict an actual seat pickup. But I think it's fair to say in the betting markets agree the Democrats are going to take the House. And again, I don't care that much about the Senate. There's reasons to think that the Democrats are going to flip a whole bunch of things that should be safe Republican seats like Ohio and Iowa and Iowa just based on the polling and where things are. probably going to go between now and November. And like, that's basically it, right? So now, like, look at what's happening in the White House.

You haven't seen a lot of turnover. You're going to start to see more turnover. That just happens naturally. But these people are going into work every day. And a lot of them are trying to fight for the American people. And they come in and they see this kind of tweet that Trump wrote at 3 a.m. With, like, Natalie Harp, probably unsupervised by anybody. And they're like, ugh.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, this is now something else that they have to deal with. And my feeling. of the White House when I went there is that yeah, they got their cabinet people, the cabinet's doing the cabinet things, and they're running the government, but that there wasn't necessarily

some kind of like overarching strategic plan at the White House level. It felt like the White House staff was really just like responding to what Trump did every day. And so I don't see any reason to think that that's not going to change and potentially with him losing political capital

and getting more of a lame duck status. You're already starting to see people treat him like lame duck. You know, people distancing them, themselves allowed to distance themselves on the campaign trail. That's a bad sign. People already trying to redefine the Republican Party into something that it was decidedly not what OG MAGA was.

If he loses the house and these, like there is going to be a palpable feeling of he is over his political hill. And so people are going to start looking towards the future and what they're going to say is that like I don't think there's going to be this appetite of Trump sitting in in Marilago and being a MAGA kingmaker. I think people are going to realize that there needs to be a, more definition behind what the movement stands for and what MAGA means or America First or whatever it's going to be, right?

He will not coronate the new leader. He will not coronate the new leader. That's a key point to make. Whoever he coronates is going to lose the primary in 2028, in my opinion. Well, that's why I think J.D. is the best of the people who currently exist, only because I know him. I think he's genuine. And I think he really is an economic populist.

And he's shown himself to be very capable as a messenger. Like, I think he could do better. The problem is, is he's got the toughest job in America because he can't criticize Trump, but he's also not going to have as many coattails as he would hope, let's just put it that way. And that he's surrounded by the entire Republican fundraising apparatus that definitely doesn't want somebody who's not Israel first and definitely doesn't want somebody who's anti- oligarch. And so the structure is going to try, in my opinion, to resist him like a virus. And I don't know how that pans out.

Like he's got to be the world's best political organizer and builder in order to do some kind of structure to make some new kind of fundraising pipeline to take over the RNC. And because he talks about populism. And it's like they're going to fight every aspect of that. The young people are revolted when they hear about money, when they hear about ads. Like it's pissing me off right now because I'm thinking about the way these things are actually won. It's not even on ideological bases. It's about how much money you can raise. And I think that's what made Trump different the first time around.

He said, hey, I'm a billionaire. I'm going to lose money so I can be the president. That's why I'm the guy for the job. But he has turned into this Miriam Edelson machine. And as we've seen with James Tolariko here in Texas, Miriam don't care about Democrat Republican. Miriam cares about Miriam and Israel and money, right? And that's what the donations roll in for. And as a young person, I hear you say those things about JD.

I don't personally endorse JD Vance. I'm like a Tucker guy. I'm like a Joe Kent guy. That's where I stand. it's just you're going to need somebody that was wounded by that sword. And I don't think J.D. Vance, besides being put in a horrible position by Trump, having to kind of be the good cop, bad cop, in the Marco Rubio dynamic, I just, I don't think he's got that metaphysical energy that was put on him,

because I think you do have to be hurt by the administration in order to win. I think you're going to see a scenario where it's like 2016, where you got a random guy, you know, that's almost in the middle of stage, but not totally the middle of the stage. And he's going to make either Marco Rubio or J.D. Vance look like Jeb Bush. Who could that person be potentially? What's the likelihood of that? Is that a pipe dream?

Is it still? There's still too many old people, still too much old money, power access, just in closing your take on that question. Yeah, I like the majority of the Republican electorate is still your boomer con. Like it just is. I'm sorry. And they're never going to build that same 77 million vote coalition that they had without like reattracting those people who have all feel like they've been betrayed.

And there's a very good case to be made, whether J.D. is the best candidate or not, that he would be well advised not to run in 2028 just because people are going to be pissed and there's going to be anti-incumbency bias. And I think that that is the case. And in that kind of environment, like also, listen, I think an outsider could come along and be very successful. The problem is third party is very hard because you have Republicans everywhere and they control elections. It's hard. You don't have all those volunteers. But you can. can run as an independent or you can run in the primary. You could probably do both. In the primary, you could be a forcing function and maybe do very well and siphon off a lot of votes, maybe even win the primary as an outsider. It would have to be a very charismatic person who is a very big national populist who does it right this time, right? Or that person can run as an independent spoiler and earn five to eight points and make

sure that the Republicans have a generational slacking that takes them out, you know, like down, way down in the stack ranking, gives an opportunity. This is the Nick Fuentes plan, right? Destroy the Republican Party so it can be rebuilt in a new image. And that's possible. Like, that's something that a Joe Kent, Tucker Carlson ticket could do. What would be hilarious is if you even saw something like maybe Rokana and Massey run together as a Democrat and you saw like Kent and Tulsi run together as a Republican

ticket or something like that. Or both as independents just to see who siphons off more votes on both sides. Like, let's have a free-frey. all. Like, why not? Right. And we just totally confuse Americans. But I think there's an opportunity if we can get past these establishment division tactics for some kind of not single issue, but for a laser-focused coalition, again, on national populism. But the system is going to fight that so hard. All of the billionaires, all the foreign countries. And it would be very, very, very, very fragile. And people are scared of that sword, man. They're scared of that power.

Because even though it's good, even though that American populism, that is the lady of the late giving us excalibur, even though that is the reality, people see that and they see Trump wielding it against them. And they're terrified of it now. And I think this is what I see a lot when I talk to young people that might be more independent or left-leaning. When I talk about being a nationalist, when I talk about being America first, they go, oh, what about Trump? He said the exact same things and look at what's happened to the country. I think that's the real danger. And that's why, from an ideological basis, I had to start broadcasting again, man, is because somebody's got to say this stuff. You know, but go ahead.

These are why the values and morals are very important. And it's because, like, for instance, on deportations, okay, you know, maybe guilty is charged, maybe you as well, but I was happy at the cathartic pump reels we were getting about ICE back in January and February of 2025, right? But it's like if we're really moral Christians, right? If we are constitutionalist conservatives, you know, we do think America is fair. We do respect people's natural rights. And so we shouldn't be tear gassing people in the face and busting down doors and using shock gloves.

And it's like the ability for us to wage economic warfare against Iran and not economic warfare against illegal aliens to get them out. For instance, it's like that would be probably the most humane way to do it and most effective way. And if your goal was- I've said it over and over and over again, can't work here, can't get a car, can't bank. just go home and it's nonviolence. That's what fishback proposed and that policy would be a lot more effective at actually getting the tens of millions people out of here that came here just in the past five years. I don't care. People say established roots, blah, blah, blah, 20 million people came here under Biden. All of them have to leave. All of them have to leave. But what you do by using ICE, which was founded right after the Patriot Act, and I think a lot of people don't know that, when you use ICE as

this cudgel and you do these things and ultimately when American citizens, for whatever reason, die in the street. When you go to that independent vote, voter or that more left-leaning voter, maybe an Obama person that transferred over to Trump in 2016, maybe somebody who didn't have a political ideology, but just like the policies of making America first again, they say, hell no, I don't support that. And sadly, they're going to be a lot more likely, in my view and opinion, to support radical socialist, globalist policy. And that is the disease, in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, it's the pendulum is going to swing back. And we have a Democrat rising tide of Democrat socialists who, again, all of their voters aren't socialist,

but a lot of them are on SSRIs. A lot of them are meant, like, you know, inflamed. Like, there is a chunk of that in the Democrat Party. And, but the problem is, it's like they are probably going to get in power and be statists and extreme and do all these division tactics. And then the Republicans are not going to, like, learn from their experience and they're going to regress and do the same thing. because they want to go back to this right-left division, Kabuki stuff.

And again, I'm very confident that the youth are most likely than anybody to see through this. And hopefully, like, again, you would have to bury hatchets. Like, we used to have political compromise in this country. And now, of course, the political compromise is just who gets to spend on their special pork stuff, right? Right. But it's like, okay, we want to deport everybody because it's a rule of law thing, and it's not fair. And it will help Americans economically if we do. that. And then they say, well, we don't want like real citizens who are Hispanic to worry about having

to show their papers at Walmart. You know what I mean? It's like if we had that open dialogue, then we could say, well, the best way to do this is to tax remittances or something, right? And so that's what a coalition might look like and that's what compromise might look like. But to do that, you have to understand that there are aspects of the way that Trump ran this presidency that played into all of the things that gave the Bolsheviks ammunition to weaponize against the right, not least of which is January 6th. You know, they do think that MAGA is violent extremists. And so, like, that, okay, back to Tucker. We're Americans. We share things. There's a shared cultural vision. We want this experiment to work. We need to be able to see through

these division tactics and understand who the real enemy, to the extent there is one, exists. And what it is is an entrenched uniparty oligarch kleptocracy of global homo, you know, like, that's what's what we have. Absolutely. No, it's the global homo agenda. It's everyone else first, except for Americans. And I say this all the time. I care about foundational white Americans, foundational black Americans, foundational Hispanic Americans. If you have parents, grandparents, great grandparents that are here and fought for that American project, I think it's incredibly disgusting to tell someone, hey, your grandfather died in Vietnam. Well, we're going to have, you know, 50 million illegal and legal immigrants come in your country. And that's fine. They're just as American as you.

And I don't care what your background is. That should piss you off. And I think it does piss you off. And I think there is that consciousness there. But the gilting has begun. The gilting on this is what America is. This is globalism. This is Israel first.

This is the Trump policy. This is what MAGA actually meant. It was never MAGA. It was always mega. Why won't you try socialism? Why won't you give it a chance? You don't care about people? Look at all the videos of people being hurt.

Look at all the videos of people going bankrupt. This is what Trump represents, and it's like, no, or this is what America First represents, and it's like, no, that's what Trump decided to pervert his platform into becoming. I think these are all very powerful points. We do have my dad coming up downstairs in studio is Stuart Rhodes at 2 p.m. Mark, I really am a huge fan. I really appreciate you. It's been an incredible honor having you on the show. Where do people find you? I got to have you on again on my personal, please.

Really appreciate it. Thanks again. This was great. I'll come on anytime. Love what you guys are doing. sorry that you're victims of the Trump administration, but I think we're coming out of the tunnel. You know, there's a light, right? I agree.

So I used to work at Rasmussen reports. I found in my own company, The Honest Poll, less than two months ago, we're doing our first national tracking poll now. Follow me on Twitter at Honest Pollster. But if people want to hear my story, I just put a video out a day and a half ago on YouTube. I'm rebuilding my YouTube channel. It's at Honest Poll. Please go. If you want to hear, it's like a 20-minute video about exactly what happened.

and what the honest poll stands for, which is independent representation of the American electorate and not dark money NGOs, not political action committees, not lobbyists, not corporations. It's the American people. And there are not a lot of people like me out there doing this. There are going to be a lot more, though, American liberty is rising. Patriotism is rising. I think that's the silver lining on this cloud that's over us right now, is it's always darkest before the dawn. And I do truly believe this.

And now we know, at least now we know what the problem is. Like you say, transnational capital is what I call it a lot of the time, the oligarchy, kleptocracy. This is what we face. This is what we war against. And if we don't have an actual populist American first mission, then ultimately we're kind of doomed to fail. We've got to have people like you, man. Thank you for coming on the show. Great to be here.

Thanks again. Thank you so much. Mark Mitchell, you got to follow him at Honest Polster guys. Check out the YouTube channel as well. This is super important. We got men in the arena right now fighting for our values, which are everyone's values in America. America first, what Maga used to mean to you and me. And this is just the reality of what we're dealing with.

That guy was a soldier. That guy was finding the truth, presenting it to Trump, giving him the information that he needed to get back on track. And like he said, it's water off a duck's back. That's what all this stuff is turned into. He doesn't listen to us anymore. He doesn't care about us anymore. He doesn't even think about us anymore. It's about the money.

It's about the power interest. It's not about we the people. And whoever has that we the people message, whoever was wounded by that same energy in a righteous way, not in an incorrect way, not a righteous way, that's going to be the people that rise to the top. I think that's going to be people like Tucker, like MTV, like a Thomas Massey, like a Joe Kent. I really think that is the core group of people that we have right now standing against this. And you see at immense personal risk and personal loss, all these people have tried their best to stay true to the values of what they campaigned for in 2016 and 20s. 24 and beyond, and it's not us that changed. We aren't the ones that changed.

We're all still saying the same things about what we wanted, the policies that we wanted. And when people say, oh, you criticize the president, you want Islamic foot washing stations. You criticize the president. You're pro, I don't know, like elective trans baby surgery or something crazy like that. That's not the issue. Okay? That's not the problem. That's like a pimple when the person has stage four terminal cancer.

And that's what the country has right now. And it's summed up in one word, mega. make Israel great again. Because if another country can take us to war, if another country can dominate our foreign policy, then we don't really have a chance. And it's not even the people over in Israel necessarily. Of course, they're serving their own interests. They want power for themselves and willing to split the throat of our empire. It's our own people that support these policies. It's our own people that deny them. It's our own people that still think we live in 1975 or 1990. We don't. We live in the year 2026. And look at this. Democrats are gearing up for a wave of

investigations into Trump and his allies. He put himself in this position. He'll probably definitely have to pardon himself. And that's why you're not going to see the arrest of my orcas. That's why we're not going to see the arrest of Fauci. That's why we're never going to get the things we voted for is because he's in the club now. He's in the club now like 50 cents. But I want to go ahead and roll a piece of my old reporting here on InfoWor, formerly InfoWars. Now Alex Jones Network of me when I'm like 14, 15 years old doing this stuff. I want you guys to see this. And then we got Stuart Rhodes, Alex Jones, coming up in studio downstairs. In some cases, people are even fitting blades into them so they can use it as a hacksaw for more damage.

What would you say, what do we need now? What kind of legislation? I mean, we need to ban these types of automatic and, you know, the military style weapons. I'm so sorry about that. The fully semi-automatic weapons? Yeah. I mean, there's no reason that a citizen needs something like that. Did you know that that screws off and becomes an even more deadly, oozy-like weapon? I mean, yeah. I mean, it's already deadly enough, I think, already. The thing is, is any American can go and purchase one of those using their civil liberties, and that's absolutely horrible. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your opinion.

Thank you so much. A great example of how the average liberal SJW is so stupid and uneducated. on the matters of gun control, that they'll just believe anything you feed them. I mean, the things that I'm making up could not be more fake. A bullet button? A hacksaw bumpstock? Come on, people.

Anyone with, like, half a brain cell should be able to recognize this stuff. A lot of people know about the bump stocks. You're well-educated. You know about them. But not a lot of people know about the screw-off nozzle that the newer AR-15s are capable of. See, in specialized forms like this one,

You're able to actually screw off the top of this one and it turns into an even more highly lethal, oozy-like weapon. What are your thoughts on that, sir? I'm not entirely, you know, I don't know anything about that too much, so I don't really know, but, I mean, the idea that it sounds a lot more dangerous. It's newer technology, the NRA and actually a couple of senators are working on getting this technology since the United States. Highly dangerous, you see the screw-off nozzle there. and I think it's just absolutely wonderful that a citizen like you is open to common sense gun reform. Thank you, sir.

No problem. Thank you. Please. It would only take a moment of your time. We'd really appreciate it here. Would you step back here, please? Thank you, sir. What are your thoughts on common sense gun reform and control? I support common sense gun control reform. Thank you. It's common sense. People don't need weapons of war. I agree. I was just in the LBJ presidential library, and they had guns just like, like this and they said weapons of war in the glass and I was thinking to myself, but you can buy these

as its force authority. That is a great observation. Are you aware of the bullet button allows people to rapidly change fire and modes and are you aware the bump stock turns any weapon into a fully automatic weapon ready to kill hundreds of people? I am and I don't understand why that's legal. Thanks. I mean, what candidates are you supporting that support things like this? Well, it seems like a standard platform on the Democratic Party side. Man, that's what I like. I feel as if the Republican ideals of the Second Amendment are really outdated, now that we have weapons like this, it was meant for muskets in reality. I know. When you look at the history, it was meant for weapons that could fire one shot a minute. Only the government should have weapons like this. Don't you agree?

I agree. Absolutely. Thanks. And just in closing, I know we've taken up so much of your time. I appreciate it. You are a thinker and an intellectual. I really appreciate you commenting on this. What is your opinion on the 1,000-yard site that is totally legal? can snipe whoever they want. Well, I think it's necessary for hunting. Oh, yeah, for hunting, but we have, like, metal and wood. It's a good rule of thumb. You have rifles that are meant for hunting.

This is meant to kill people. Yeah, why it's legal to attach to a weapon that should be banned, I don't understand. The 2-23, it's a heavy round. It's meant to take, it's a big armor-piercing plates. It's what the military uses. It's just a slightly less powerful version of the M-16, which the military uses. So you agree with me. Weapons like this should be banned, right?

I do agree. I don't think weapons of war should be able to be bought by anyone who's over 18 or 21. Anyone who has a weapon which is capable to add blades on, telescopic sight sniping people, having weapons like this which have a unscrewable nozzle where you can pull it out and it functions just identically to an Uzi. That's incredibly illegal, but it's legal thanks to our NRA and the Second Amendment. That should be abolished, in my opinion. Yeah, I think so.

I think the right to protect yourself, you don't need a weapon like this to protect yourself at a home, and you don't need a weapon like this to be a good hunter. Oh, just get a can of pepper spray. I mean, come on. You don't need AK-17s and AR-15s and 12s. You don't need weapons like that, do you? I don't think so. AR-17.

There's a real hunger for people in the center that want to find valid true information, and you have that legitimacy of Trump from back in the day. You have that sword, that energy. So many people pledged them. to that banner, be like, hey, man, we're looking for the truth, whatever that means. And I think people like Tim Poole represent that because they don't actually look for the truth. They look for a narrative to parrot, right? They don't actually have any real positions. It's the amorphous blob technique. I'm rubber, your glue. What bounces off me, sticks to you. They can do anything

and everything. They can meet with Netanyahu in secret and then say, hey, it's public because I tell you, but I won't tell you what I talked about. Netanyahu met with journalists in D.C. to lobby for the Iran war. And he's one of the people there. And Tim Poole is not allowed to discuss what they talked about at the meeting. And Tim Poole will say, I told you what happened on the record. That's because Jewish insider, Jewish newspapers like Jewish Insider and Haretz published stories on it, right? So we had to come out.

I was, oh, the day later you told everyone, yeah, they wrote about it. They wrote about it. So you had to come out publicly. And then he wants to play onk and play this game as to where, I don't know what I did to you, Alex. I didn't know. I just, in politics, there are no friends, only conveniences, all of this stuff that he did.

he's doing that stuff because he can't stand on business, stand on principle. He supported the war by supporting Netanyahu. I'm sorry, Hitler is dead and he lost to the United States of America. Netanyahu is alive and he's conquered our country. I view him as worse than Hitler, all right, in the modern relevance term, okay? Because he took us to war. He killed American soldiers repeatedly over decades and decades and decades, billions of our dollars spent on killing little kids, right?

And somebody like Tim Poole is too afraid to lose his career and lose his access and lose his job. job, lose the normies that might be offended by that because they don't understand what Trump is done with that sword he was given. They're just so loyal to that sword. Somebody like Tim Poole's afraid to lose that bread that he knows his butter. So that's what it comes down to. And when he comes out and says, Alex, you've lost all your viewership. That wasn't him just doing an isolation. My dad was getting attacked in every comment section over this that day when the X glitch was happening. Yeah. Right. People like the quarter pounder, people like Jeremy Hamplant, people like the QP. These people are bottom feeders. They're muck rakers. They are the lowest gusano scum of the media,

and they attack my father who created the entire space for them. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? And Tim Poole is higher than that because he created his own network, and I have a lot of respect for that, just like somebody, even if I don't like him personally, right? But Tim Poole should know that he hasn't taken a real position, and he should know Alex has taken some very real positions at immense personal risk and personal harm to himself, it ain't good to gum out against the president and have the president tweet about you and call you low IQ and say that you're afraid.

That's not, that's what it means to be in the storm. That's what it means to be a real fighter. Someone like Tim Pool, I never going to get called out by the president because he's a good boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clip it up. For sure.

I can cut a mean promo, man. Go follow this dude if you ain't already. Yeah, for sure. He's just getting better and better. The hydrogen bombs are detonating. And you're sitting in your house or office and all of a sudden the wind is all blow out. And then 10 seconds later, you see a flash of red coming at you.

That's the firewall. And just remember, oh, Alex Jones was right. And that's if you're, you know, on the edge of the blast. You won't feel anything if you're actually in the epicenter of it. And, of course, maybe you're out in the middle of Montana or Wyoming. Well, you'll get the nuclear winter and the fallout. And then a few weeks after the nuclear war, here comes the warlords coming to loot your house and rape your wife and kids.

And people got their teeth falling out from radiation, poisoning, and all these crazy guys stumble out of their vehicles, and it'll be doctors and medics and engineers, and they'll all have gone totally crazy. They'd have a bunch of 140 IQ psychos that are literally going across the land like army ants, debowering everything in their way, and all the low IQ people will just be dead in a ditch.

And then the near civilization goes by-bye, and all of a sudden there's all these monsters, all these 140, 150, 160 IQ monsters. The guy that used to make them, manage the golf course, your surgeon, your neighbor, who's the Army vet. And now all of a sudden, they're hauling you up by chain to butcher your ass and eat you. And if I wanted to get outside the blast zone, I can go get ready, and I can be the leader. I can be a new warlord.

I can organize the engineers and scientists and warriors and have a battle plan. Now we were going to take the resources we needed, get to her without, fortify it with weapons, because there's going to be other warlords coming sooner to continue to continue. with as we rebuild civilization. It's not that I want to be a warlord, but that's what we're going back to. Are you ready to be a warlord? Are you ready for me to be humongous?

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They'll be explained once that happens. Let them have the crew working 12 hours, 14 hours a day. We've had other stuff done, but we've had some huge behind-the-scene victories that haven't been announced yet that will be announced, but that's because, you've been praying for us, you've been spreading the word, you've stood with us, we've stood with you, I bet on you, you bet on me, it is amazing. So I'm going to leave the broadcast host studio, and I'm going to go into the interview studio here in a few minutes where Stuart Rhodes found out of the oathkeepers, former constitutional lawyer, Ron Paul Stafford's how I first met him, and so much more. And former J6 political prisoner who they told them all, they said, you know, you just turn on Trump and make up a bunch of lies about J6. and, you know, we'll let you get out of here.

But they never buckled. They never back down. They're very thankful to Trump for doing what he did. But in the last year, him going sideways, they've still had enough integrity. They have nothing but integrity to speak out against it. So we'll be talking about that. But tonight, we are mainly focused on the Democrats and the ADL and the Southern Property Law Center and the incredible disgusting activities they've been involved in because these people send in infiltrators,

PIs, you name it. It's funded by the deep state. by the DOJ, State Department, you name it, through NATO. I suppose that decades ago before NATO was such a big issue. Our government likes to do things overseas with illegal money so they can do illegal operations that aren't easily looked at by Congress and oversight. And so that's where we are. And she's already been indicted for running the white supremacy groups

and living with the head guy and sitting millions to herself and him and all the rest of it. But the word is and the investigation is, and the information we're giving them, is what they did with the Democratic Party. and Democrat DOJ. I don't think the Lever got up the DOJ for it, but they're at least going after the DOJ cutout that is this goblin creature, Heidi Byritch. And she honchoed and was the head person over the fake lawsuits

of me being defaulted and found civilly liable or guilty. And then the HBO produced show trials that were now confirmed funded by the DOJ. That's all confirmed. We have the documents. We've done special reports on that. We've shown you that. We've reared out that this week. But we have their ass here.

We have their number here, and we have the intel on what's coming next with these creatures. They make these movies like one battle after another where, oh, it's a nice suburban house, but there's a white supremacist bunker under it. And any white man that has an executive job is secretly in a Nazi bunker. That doesn't exist, folks. Okay. But it only exists with the SPLC and the ADL and their underground bunkers running the white supremac organizations to create the that they need.

And so this is a big, big deal. Regardless what happens, they've been convicted in the court of public opinion. We have big news on Bill Gates and his daughter running through the universities. An alternate shadow government that's, quote, promoting a totalitarian world government to dominate and mind control. The public, these are quotes. That's breaking all over mainstream news, absolutely massive. So one way or another, we're moving the needle against tyranny and for liberty more in a month. We used to move it in a year.

or in 10 years. So this is huge. We also have Fauci's main aid indicted, now turning states' evidence against him. We just have so many incredible things that are happening. So just thank God for all of that. And thank God for all of you being so steadfast in this fight and realizing that info wars looks like it's going to rise from the ashes.

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It is a silver bullet to werewolves. It is the holy water. It is Alex Jones Live.com. Not me personally, but what we all do together, God's hand is 100% absolutely on target. We're on the march. The Empire is on the run. as I criticize Trump for going sideways, we put him in there. I'm proud we put him in the first term and fought back. Greatest comeback story ever. And just the dividends of a better Supreme Court, the dividends of all the exposure, this is way better than it would have been.

And so I'm very proud of support of Trump so far. And he's starting to really say that Israel's out of control. And he's starting to be a pullback. And that doesn't mean that, you know, he's pervert or we're approving him or doing a facelift for Trump. But we will definitely try to get what we can still get out of Trump ahead of these midterms. continue to fight the real enemy, the globalist, the Democratic Socialists of America, and their whole new world order system. And that's what this is all about. But for the apologist, white pillars on the Israeli payroll, saying any criticism of Trump is betrayal and working with the Democrats, you're the guys with your policies that are turning the public off with these betrayals and these wars and the inflation,

everything we predicted would cause a bond default that's now happening and all the rest of it. No, you didn't want real constituents of Trump, real American patriots engaged so that you could have your way with him. but that's not what's happening. So we threw a big fit in this whole thing to get Trump's attention on it. We're starting to get some major movements. That is a great blessing. So let me say before I go down over to the other studio

and break all this down with not victims of the enemy, overcomers of the enemy, but people that have fought the enemy, Stuart Rhodes, Dr. Ricay Tario, and my other good buddy, Joe Biggs, just remember this. You know where the funding comes from? I'm going to spend time on Tin Poole,

who met Sierra Leviton Yahoo, and admitted he did it to think about how to suppress the American right wing and be pro-war. He also officially took money from Russia. He has now come out this morning and said he knows I took money to attack him. It won't say from who, with no proof. I'll assure you that's a lie on my soul. Strike me down, God, if I'm lying about that, everybody knows. And God knows that's not true.

But I just talked about him because there was a glitch on X that killed live stream viewers 90% over the weekend. And they look like a glitch. I said, I think it's a glitch. but regardless it's causing censorship, please fix it. They fix it within a day. And Tim Hull said, no, you don't have a viewers because you're not popular. You're not pro-Trump. You're not pro-war.

And I said, that's a talking point. I noticed the Israeli bots put out, how dare you? You're the one that's the money. Or I can't prove that. You're the one meets with the Israeli prime minister who spent $1.3 billion buying American influencers. His response was, I did nothing. You just attacked me for no reason. And you have been paid to attack me as if he's important.

So he's just an archetypal example. of these Judas Ascarius, these Benedict Arnold, that we are dealing with. I'm not singling him out for any one reason other than he was one of the most prominent people with all this happening. So I just chose to make an example out of him because a lot of folks know who he is. Obviously, we know a lot of people that work at his company and there's a lot of, go back to that. We have the video clip of that. Go back to that real quick.

Obviously, we know a lot of people that work in his company and there's a lot of fervor on what's going on. people sacrifice their morals for a paycheck. I mean, dude, you're teeing yourself up for a real defamation lawsuit, pal. Okay. We have a very small crew. Nobody said that. We have funds to operate at the current level. Fine.

We want to expand. We are doing a fundraiser. But that is outrageous. And this morning he put out, Jones got paid. We know he's being paid to attack. He won't say by who. Did I meet with the primarily prime minister secretly on how to attack the American right wing and be pro war?

Did I take Russian money? like you admit you got caught doing? No. So I've never taken any money from any government or any major group other than the Pentagon. And that was right before I got banned on YouTube when I was number one. They were doing huge ad buys on all the major channels that reach young males. And they spent the Air Force $20,000, the Marines like $5,000. If I could pull that up, AP, Reuters, media matters.

And the Pentagon said we just made big ad buys on what was recommended that had top ratings. I mean, I was getting a billion views every quarter then or more. And it was no strings attached. I just took advertising. It's all God, 20,000 from the Air Force, 5,000 of the Marines. And then they dropped their advertising when they did that. So, pal, the only people that have ever buttered my bun from a government is the U.S. government. Not the Russians, which you admit you took money from.

So the only reason I raised that is this is insane that there's proof he took money from the Russians. He admits it. He meets the prime minister of Israel to how to suppress the American right-wing encounter us. And I'm not saying all these people are on the Israeli payroll. a lot of these guys. I like Biddy Johnson. I like those folks. I don't even know who some of those people are. But my point is you accuse me of this. Absolutely insane. Totally and completely bonker town. So, unbelievable. But let me tell you who funds me, you. And I'm only going to sell you stuff that really works. You know, like a crack dealer giving 11-year-old's crack or heroin,

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and the DOJ funding again has been in the documents, The CIA involvement has been the documents. They admitted we're suing them. You don't hear about the news because we're so successful. You know, it's the onion didn't get info wars. You notice none of that happened. You're about to see major developments. They're going to blow you away soon about everything.

But we're not ready yet to do it because of a few things that are going on in court. I'll just leave with that. But we are because, you know, well, then to catch a big fish, you get up to the boat. And even you got the fish gaffed. And now you're pulling it in. It's up over the edge of the boat. and we've got the huge blue fin tuna. But sometimes they flop and jump out of the boat.

We've got to open the big freezer door that goes into the pit of the ship. We're opening the door now, and once we drop the bluefin tuna on its head down through that hole into the ice, and then we pulled it over. Okay, it's in the boat. It's been gaffed. It's in the boat weighs like 100 pounds. As soon as the crew is swinging the door open,

and as soon as we drop the bluefin tuna into the hole and close it, we're going to tell you all about it. But we don't count our chickens for their hatched. We don't sell wine until it's time. And so it is in the boat. But I've seen fish flop around and get out of the boat. It will be in the ice. I mean, politically nonviolently, actually, I've seen this for, but fish is flopping too much.

We may just take a dagger to the brain a little bit. I may actually go down in the hold with all the other. I mean, just like, you know, make, you know, oh, gosh, such good to have this. I just, you know, we just might take a machete and just politically nonviolent chop the whole head off the bulletin. Just, I can't believe I got this champion bluefin. I'm just going to, or this giant Marlon, 5,000 pounds, whatever. I mean, I am, they get that big. The point is, is that we're on like Donkey Kong.

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straight ahead on the fall. No way they're getting on it. It's like we're a submarine hit a ship with five torpedoes. It's on fire. It's listing 60, 70 degrees. It's exploding. It's going down. All right.

So we're going to have to get a bigger boat here, ladies and gentlemen. So that's what this is all about. This is spectacular. Their whole left-right paradigm, their whole white people are evil races when they're running all the groups. Everything I ever told is coming out. This is an amazing moment. those live feeds right now.

All right, let's go to this important short documentary, and then we'll get into the fall of SPLC and how that is going to unfold. Straight ahead, share the feed. We'll be right back. I think white supremacy is, you know, one of the worst things mankind has come up with. Well, I can have a direct impact on these movements. Heidi Byrick is leader of the Intelligence Project here at the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit anti-terror organization.

The number of hate groups has been. increasing pretty rapidly and frighteningly really since 2000. White supremacists commit far more acts of domestic terrorism in the United States than radical Islamists, for example. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which of course claims to be an anti-white group, was actually funding hate. The feds say the SPLC used donor money to reimburse clansmen from the KKK for cross-burning. and even their notorious white robes.

Can you believe it? They're also accused of paying white nationalists and KKK members to stay in those respective groups, even when the people said they wanted out. It's also what happens when you listen to the radio host, Alex Jones, who claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs. And a lot of the ferment and activity, the protests, the rallies and whatnot are circulated around the alt-right groups right now.

in particular groups that attach themselves directly to Donald Trump's campaign. But Trump doesn't challenge these lies. He actually went on Jones's show and said, Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down. We came up with this idea that we should sue these folks in civil court to bankrupt them. Our hope is that by taking their money away, they can't function anymore. And that was successful?

Yes, every single one of them has been successful. Obviously, when these groups don't have money, that means they're supposed violence. Meanwhile, she's the main funder. portrayed, you know, the whole idea is to not allow them. And second their ding-dogs. Today, my understanding is today there was an arrest made, and there is a new indictment that includes the former CFO of SPLC. I wonder whether it was a result of sort of SPLC-funded adjut prop, whether they were

able to get the ear of the Sandy Hook lawyers and say, no, no, no, there's more, there's more. This is next level government weaponization. and their goal was, and of course it's come out in court, they ran with the FBI, with the CIA, the operations trying to shut us down, the show trials, all of it, and the lady that's been indicted, the former head of the SPLC, until recently, she, on record, hon showed all this, and she's under criminal investigation,

she's already been indicted specifically for trying to infiltrate the proud boys, the oathkeepers and info wars to try to spur us to do something criminal or try to find something that we had done that was criminal. And as I told you years ago, the fake lawsuits against us were all about finding something. And then we had groups associated with them,

plant child porn on us, but we never opened it. And then when they reported it, the FBI said we were victims. I mean, this has been one hell of a fight. They sent in their infiltrators. They got one main one in who jacked into our surveillance cameras for over a year.

and then nothing bad was there but still leaked the one thing over having cameras in the building in the hallways and exits and entrances of me at midnight by myself walking around with my shirt off, smoking a cigarette with drinking a vodka. This is huge. And if this was happening to somebody else, it'd be a big deal. We already have the CIA caught on undercover camera, confirmed CIA, how they ran the whole thing, which gave us a blueprint to research in federal documents. And then we remembered, oh, on the stand, the head of the FBI.

FBI from Connecticut admitted that he went orchestrated the lawsuits against us. Then we learned the DOJ illegally funded the lawsuits against us. The judges found me civilly liable or guilty, then had show trials produced by HBO. And the whole time, their main expert was the head of the SPLC. And now she's indicted. And it's illegal as hell for a private group or even the government without warrants to go in and internally try to destroy organizations and set people up. It's illegal, even if they have warrants for the feds to do that. Obviously, there's going to be lawsuits over this, Ciboli, it's open and shut.

We have way more than you even know. We have whistleblowers from the media, from the folks up in Connecticut, and also from inside of the government. But now we've got inside baseball today, and a lot more is about to come out confirming moles from the SPLC inside operation. I have names. It looks like Alex Jones was right. The bombshell, the Cash Patel, and the acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, dropped this week, was that the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the organization that for more than 50 years has committed to fighting for social justice

and against racism and against extremism and violence has actually been funding that racism, that extremism, that civil injustice behind the scenes. Stop, stop, stop right now. was a member of the chat group that planned the 2017 Unite the Right event in Charlottesville, Virginia, and attended the event at the direction of the SPLC. This individual made racist postings under the supervision of the SPLC and helped coordinate transportation to the event for several attendees. Between 2015 and 2023, the SPLC secretly paid this individual more than $270,000.

Again, they put in 300K and they got fodder for a lifetime. And you know what, Alex Jones called it. He called it from the very beginning all the way back in 2017, right after it happened, literally in August of 2017. He said that this was an inside job, as you can see right here. And this was his take. Charlottesville was mainly a bunch of homosexual leftist dressing up like Nazis who'd all formerly worked for Obama or Hillary, part of their art club.

And then they'd lured a bunch of reporters there and some real white supremacist. So the police could stand down and collide them into the folks. I pointed out that some of the same leftist foundations are funding the white supremacists that are funding real white supremacist in Ukraine. I got sued for that. And I said it was all part of leftist coming out to come to this big event and hope there was some big crisis out of it to demonize the right in general and tie us to Nazis. And you know, when he says that they were hoping that some crisis would come out of it,

it reminds me of that normal political phrase, like never let a crisis go to waste. All so they could demonize this, but the real mission was to find some type of criminal dirt on us. Now, Zach Drucker jacked into our surveillance cameras for over a year and then went and gave them all the footage and did a bunch of other stuff and was interviewed

and there's the articles. There's three of them or three parts. But I want to play it before we go to Norm Pattis the short Fox News piece because this is a small window into this. Right when Trump got reelected to cash tells credit one month after they said, check your mail.

In the mail came a DVD with a bunch of files on it from the DOJ, with all of these counterterrorism espionage investigations around the Boston Field Office, going back to 2013, starting with Comey. That's the really nasty office for the really clandestine stuff, like the FBI hit teams with Whitey Bulger used to run out of their nationwide. And the mission was to destroy me.

I want to start off with the FOIA request that we got earlier this year, done by Chase Geiser, details and investigation started against Alex Jones back in 2013 as being a white racially motivated extremists. So this started in 2013 and it was ongoing where they had to approve it

every 60 days. They would have to review it and go, okay, we're going to keep this going. So as far as we know, it's still ongoing, it's still on the books. And we got that the aforequests that the trumpet via gave to us. And Kyle Serafan, very famous FBI explorer who was in counterterrorism, looked at the codes

on the documents. They're heavily redacted in black out. And he said it was the Boston office. It happened right when Comey got appointed 2013 under Obama and was specifically running an espionage, counter-espionize operation against this, which is what they do when they try to do a drag net to find some dirt, but can't do it inside of a regular criminal investigation. And then we got undercover CIA admitting and undercover FBI admitting it. They admitted it on the stand. The FBI chief counsel in Connecticut went and created the lawsuits against me. So this is all known. The DOJ funded millions and millions of dollars to the groups to do this. That's all come out. You've seen to show you all that, the documents, all of it. Most of you know that Bloomberg and the Onion claimed that they bought us last November.

We were shut down, and it was a hoax and wasn't true. Remember all that? And the fact that these foundations, connection to the Democratic Party with the Sandy Hook families, raised hundreds of millions of dollars off my name, claiming I was victimizing them and attacking them and coming after them. them and I never did any such thing. And of course we had an undercover video, a CIA FBI operative Gavin Oblebis a few years ago, caught admitting that, well, we investigated Jones for a decade at the DOJ and he didn't do anything wrong. So we went to Connecticut and we set up these lawsuits

against him. That was two years ago. And then William Aldenberg, the head counsel in Connecticut of the FBI, got up on the stand during the show trial and said that he went an instant. the lawsuits and organized it all, Costco and Koskhov and the families who were running the foundations that were raising the hundreds of millions of dollars off my name. We've already detailed all of that. We put the graphs here on screen. But now researching this in the last few weeks, we have discovered that in October of 2022, the DOJ paid two grants to one of the Sandy Hook foundations with the main plaintiffs against me. that totaled exactly $1.7 million. And then a month later, Koskhov and Koskhov,

the Democrat Party law firm coming after me, put in their bill for $1.7 million for the past few years before that. Incredible. What do you call that? It's a big enough scandal at the DOJ giving grants to the very groups of the individual suing me. but now we have them give them the grant, and a month later they put in their bill. That is the exact same amount.

They have a name for that. It's called, looks like money laundering. Maybe it's just a coincidence. But when you have the SPLC sending people in to infiltrate companies to then feed information to civil lawsuits, that is illegal as hell on so many fronts. and not to mention uncivil. The lawsuits out of this are just slam dunks, ladies gentlemen. And don't worry, that trains are coming.

You can hear it around the bin. And when we're done, we hope you're in Folsom Prison. We had the Southern Party Law Center successfully infiltrated and did a year-long operation, but the person was compartmentalized as an editor. And I wasn't sure about the person, So I just said, you know, let them be an editor over there, don't involve anything. And then sure enough, hacked into the systems, didn't get much.

But, I mean, we're talking espionage, okay? So when I tell you about me, and we'll skip this break coming up and give Gerald some time here, I have been run over by the same truck as Stephen Crowder. And, by the way, I've been backed over a few times by it, too. I'm trying to keep score here. But let me tell you, they really took the brass knuckles to me. Okay. By the way, when they sued me, Hillary Clinton's, when her operatives from the state department,

they dropped it later. I specifically, that reporter you saw that was posted on Fox News showing me, you explain it was NGOs. In the longer clips, I say Southern Poverty Law Center. They had to have this victory. So they had the Southern Poverty Law Center, who's been caught doing this before, to come in and get a few people from central casting actors and dress up, you know, like the white supremacist. Then they've got all the anti-fob bust in by Soros to everybody. They're ready then, and the police can't handle the normal conservatives, march them through, let them get beaten up for the sci-off of the image of conservatives getting beat up and anti-fob being victorious.

I want to warn you, Kessler, particularly. If you are a Fed, they're going to burn you in the end. So you're in grave danger. I'm not, Alex, don't spread stuff like that without evidence. Come on, man. Like, at that press conference yesterday, I went by myself because I didn't want to endanger other people, Other people who've worked with me are, you know, they're having their jobs threatened. Why'd you choose a city with a Democrat mayor?

You should see the emails and the phone calls that I get nonstop day and night, threatening my life, threatening my family's lives. And I walk through a crowd about 100 Antifa and Black Lives Matter to get to that press conference yesterday. I was ready to die. Alex, I was ready to die for what I believe. What about Charlottesville and the Charlottesville, United States? the right rally were they involved in that yes so what what we alleged in the indictment and what the grand jury found is that one of the individuals that

they paid was one of the folks who helped organize that terrible event and so that you so imagine what we're talking about Laura we're talking about an organization that actively came out and just screamed it from the top of their lungs so just so people understand watching us did these informants in some cases given the evidence you've seen actually in initiate what would ultimately be these activities and obviously Charlottesville ended with the tragedy. Well, we know that they were part of those. They were part of it.

Whether they were the leaders or the initiators, that that'll come out, I think, eventually. Because I already knew, okay? And so this is a big deal. So here's the Fox News clips. We'll go to Norm Pattis. I appreciate him holding. Well, we'll give us some backstory here. But here they are reporting on how Obama targeted dozens of conservative groups, including Breitbart,

and you see on the map and the document from the DOJ, Congress released this recently, you see Info Wars right up on the right-hand side of the pyramid. So it's in the documents, but we also have the documents from the DOJ that we published, how we were targeted. Todd Blanche killed the investigation that Ed Martin was running in the weaponization committee operation, but I was told by a big reporter that Todd Blanche wanted to meet with me and that actually they had just moved the investigation, and then I should meet with him and trust him.

We will see. But I will tell you that I'm talking to the DOJ and the FBI. And you've heard there's more indictments coming. So we have them cut and dry, not just funding white supremac groups and getting them to do illegal things is the charges, but also targeting the groups that Obama, and then it continued with Biden,

ordered them to target. Fox Business, a bombshell new report reveals the Biden administration is using taxpayer money to rage a covert war on, conservatives and Christian groups. The Media Research Center, a conservative watchdog group, obtaining documents showing DHS, Department of Homeland Security,

is using a program meant to fight terrorists, which includes groups like the Heritage Foundation, MAGA, Fox News, even the Republican National Committee in the same... Yeah, the Republicans, you know, they're just terrorists down the bottom, but as you go up towards the more evil, let's put it back on screen. Pause, please.

I'm in with Breitbart, Prager, you, proud boy, turning point USA for destruction. Shut our sides down, take our banging away, don't let us assemble in public outlaws. And I'm listed, then we got the DOJ documents. Now we know this lady who was the head of this operation, the SPLC, she was involved in the lawsuits against me.

She was one of their witnesses. She was one of their experts. She was supposed to testify, but they got scared and pulled her. The SPLC put multiple operatives in. That's been confirmed. They've admitted it. It's now under criminal investigation. tell you that exclusively by the DOJ.

She's been indicted and more indictments are coming. Todd Blanche said last week. Norm Patis, that was quite the buildup, but just what do you want to impart to people? This is a pretty big deal. They're running scared right now. It's a huge deal. It reminds me very much of what happened with the church committee in the 70s when the whistle was blown on the Cointel Pro operations that the FBI engaged against the left.

During the Proud Boys trial, for example, we had to fight very hard to get evidence before the jury that there were federal confidential human sources embedded in the proud boys. And we fought and started to win that battle. And our point was if this was a planned event, the CHS's, the snitches would have known about it. One night when it was pretty clear we were going to get a list of names in front of the jury, a senior justice department official came up to me in the hall and said, what are you looking for? I said, I want to find out how many CHSs you had on the jury. ground with the proud boys on January 6th. Why? Because I don't think there was a plan. I don't think you think there was a plan. And if there was one, all these eyes and ears on the ground would have found it. To keep me from asking more questions and blowing the lid off of that, we reached a stipulation.

They gave us a number which we thought was reasonable and we were able to argue that in front of the jury. I've always regretted that and wondered what it was we left on the table. The job was to defend the boys, not to be a journalist and uncover larger truths. But it me there was a lot going on with CHS's. When I saw the Byrick indictment last week, I about fell out of my chair. You know, Heidi Byrick was listed as an expert on extremism, and they had tendered her, the Sandy Plaintiffs, as a potential witness in your case as an expert. So we took her deposition, and she didn't do very well in my view. So I wasn't surprised that she didn't testify. However, I'm now reading, and I've heard from Nick Haciofatsu, Nick the Hat out in Pennsylvania,

that he's got an FBI source that is prepared to come forward and say that there were sources in your organization, Alex, that were beholden to info wars during the trial. And that just drives me crazy. I mean, what happened to you in that trial was unprecedented in American history, in my view. You provided tens of thousands of documents. You sat for hours worth of depositions. People, everyone close to you sat for depositions. The Sandy Hook plaintiffs were never persuaded that you were forthcoming.

with all the information you had, so they persuaded a judge to granted default, who told them you weren't forthcoming. I spent weeks, not consecutive days, but weeks of times over a couple of year period at your organization looking for all the documents that I could find. I didn't think that there was more to give than we gave. Somebody told the Sandy Hook plaintiffs that there were,

and then they persuaded the judge that there were. The judge defaulted you, basically keeping from the jury the fact that you had complied with discovery, that you had in fact participated in the civil justice system, but instead told the jury you'd been found liable for causing harm. And the result was this eye-popping verdict that was untethered to the facts of the case. This is the investigation was on that. The FBI and DOJ did not know that the SPLC bragged they had an infiltrator

and a confidential human source. Zach Drucker insider operation who they did a three-part series with. So there they are admitting they did that, and then we know of another one because of sources. This guy shot his mouth off in front of people. They don't know how many people we've got just everywhere.

I was talking to journalists behind the scenes, and one of the first things that I said, and I said it to her in this particular article, and I went back and just reviewed it. It comes from September of 2022. I said that the demand for white supremacy in the United States, this is by the political establishment on the left, and then also the sort of hangers on that go along with it, that demand for white supremacy vastly outstrips the actual supply for

white supremacy. And because of that, they have to go to the well and they have to drum things up, create things up, and it turns out actually fund this thing. So they've been throwing money to the KKK, to neo-Nazis, they were going out there and trying to find out, can we get something to pretend like Alex Jones is worse than he really is? Can we find something damning or incriminating? Can we say that he's getting text messages and says that he lives in hell? And, you know, What can we do to try to get our donors behind this? And the crazy thing is that the FBI had a historical relationship with the SPLC, which goes back decades.

Once he quit, because I guess they were ready to activate him with his disinformation, people came and they said, we didn't know what was going on. But I've got like engineers, software guys, people, you know, like Rob Doe, like most of my crew are like liberal hippies that woke up Democrats are bad and aren't like, I mean, these are the opposite. Like half the time they're down at the, you know, elephant room watching reggae playing. I mean, so these are not Nazis. You've seen my crew.

But the point is that this guy literally, once I saw the movie, one battle after another, which is another Lepis fever dream, where the secret wall goes up and the white executives are all really Nazis. That's what this guy was doing the last few weeks or month. He's like, so I want to be in letting on the Nazi stuff. I really hate the Jews and the black people too. I want to get them. And then people are like, dude, we're going to tell Alex your son, what is this? Well, I just hate N-words and stuff.

But that's all they had and jacking into our surveillance cameras and trying to break into computers, like they're breaking into a computer and they find the secret Hitler codes or something. It's like they were really believing we're doing this when they're the ones financing and funding the real Nazis. It's insane. One of the dumbest ones I remember doing, there was a guy that he apparently was going to shoot black cops in Georgia, and he was an active duty military member. We surveilled him for four months, maybe, and it wasn't just my. team, my team rotated in and out. They had a full-time surveillance team that moved from where

they lived, full-time residents for three plus months on, you know, TDIY to a hotel. It's $10,000 per shift to do full-time surveillance like this. And they had two to three shifts on this guy for three, four months. So they spent millions of dollars to follow him around. He was a nobody in the military. He was a E-4 or below. I'm going to be kind of vague about it. He had no ability to actually project force. He was still following the rules. of his command. And then the best part was they actually sent an undercover agent at him, and the agent sat down with him and had dinner, and we, you know, we surveilled the meat at the dinner. We had mics in at the table and this kind of stuff. And they're like, so, are we going to

go kill the, like, the, you know, the inward cops or whatever? And he was like, uh, kind of, I just want to kind of get out of the military and just like go get a girlfriend and maybe a job. He's like, I'd love if, like, some girl would, like, hold my hand or something. And they're like, yeah, but then we like killed the inward cops, right? And he's like, maybe not. Like, maybe, maybe one day, but like, really, I just need to start, like, probably earning a Meanwhile, the SPLC is literally meeting and running the Nazis in the secret meeting. So they're saying we're that, but show the B-roll, they're the ones having one battle after another actual meetings with the white supremacist and running them. So what they say we are is them.

It's totally insane. Sorry, go ahead. Well, it's confession through projection. When you do nefarious, weird things, then you assume everybody else does. In the law enforcement world, sometimes we call it guilty knowledge. I had a buddy who was a street cop for a long time, and he would always try to teach new surveillance. agents this. He's like, look, you're watching people for a living. You're sitting in your car, spying on other people, trying to build a criminal case on them, and you know that. So you cannot

unknow what you're doing there. But nobody else looks in the car and goes, oh, I bet that's an FBI agent who's spying on me. What they do is they're like, what's that guy there? What's he doing? So when people come up to you and you act natural, you can get away with it. But you always have that guilty knowledge that inside your job is to hide stuff. And that's what these people were doing. They were hiding things. They were doing nefarious stuff. They were running the organizations that they were or they were funding the organizations they were ostensibly trying to wipe out but guess what happens if you wipe out white supremacy Alex you don't need an SPLC anymore and folks it is Thursday night August 20th

26 and we've got Stuart Rhodes found out of the oldkeepers a former constitutional lawyer Ron Paul Stafford back when I first he said to interview and they say yeah we know about the police state and new a lawyer but have this guy on the one this big Yale award there's research so I've known Stewart before he found out of oldkeepers and we've got Enrique Atari, who's actually over in Europe doing an investigation, and Paulus will get to him first. We get to bed. It's 3 a.m. there.

And then the great Joe Biggs, former enforced reporter, from the political prisoner, proud boys as well. But great to have you both here. I want to end the time we have, because it's a long intro and set up here. Just in general, your overall 35,000-foot view of what's happening, what you've gone through the SPLC and ADL, and the fact that we're not naive,

but indictments of them, indictments of their intelligence head, the FBI wanting information from me about them, targeting us. They ran the show trial. I mean, something's going on big. Maybe Trump's issues this as leverage, but they are not happy campers. And just the public indictment of these people, this is all coming out, that all the major white supremac groups and Charlottesville, all this they were running. This overall is a victory in the court of public opinion. In my view, Stuart Rhodes, give us about a five, ten minutes of opposite. I want to bring in Rique Atario in here and let him get back to bed. Then we're going to ring Joe Biggs in here. But I just want to get

your response to all of this. You've now been fully exonerated. not just you're being let out of prison, but now the full deal with your rights back. So fully vindicated as well, founder of the oldkeepers, a good friend of mine, Stuart Rhodes. Yeah, I appreciate that. It's a great sign. It's a pleasant surprise. I think it's fantastic. I'm still skeptical.

My concern is that they'll just run the clock out until Trump's gone and dismiss the charges or some leftist judge will do it. And the problem I have is I've seen, you know, you haven't seen any judges in this country purged yet. They should all be impeached and removed from office. Article 3. People don't know. They're not only the Supreme Courts go equal, not the other judges. Sure. So they could all be removed through

impeachment. So I'm skeptical. It's positive. It's a good thing. I hope it keeps going. But I always worry that in the long run the clock out and dismiss the charges. But I'll take what I can get. So I think it's fantastic. All it does is confirm we always knew. You knew this way back. I knew it way back to that Southern Pauville Law Center and the

ADL, I characterize it as just another finger on the same fist. The ADL, SPLC, the propaganda arm, they work hand and fist with the CIA and with the FBI to demonize, target, marginalized, and then imprison people and debank them and everything else they do. The lawfare they did against you, like you played an earlier clip of Heidi yourself saying, this is their game plan. They'll go and they'll file civil lawsuits against groups to, you know, break them financially. In rig courts. Yeah, in rig courts. But what's ironic and what's wonderful about this is that while she's saying that's what they're doing, she's actually sleeping with one of their leaders and funding these groups,

the actual neo-Nazis, the actual white nationalist KKK. Let me get people in his flash. I know all the right-wing patriot leaders, and the ones that are critical Israel are a little racist. We're like, hey, settle down. It's all out in the open. People like you, me, Enrique, we're America. You got red blood. You love freedom.

We're brothers. and that's the groups they target is the real groups that can unify people. Yeah, what's ironic about it is that back then, as a Christian, I was pro-Israel because I was raised to believe that you have to support Israel. So they were painting me falsely

as being anti-Semitic or whatever. I called it conflation. You were even somewhat provisual until about two years ago, but it got so obvious. So now it's become so obvious and I woke up to the game that they played, I don't longer refer to as Judeo-Christian value. Even Huggins became out today and said

the settlers are terrorists and committing crimes and murder, which is true. It's just too obvious. Right. So they really, the bottom line is that the entire agenda all along was to crush the West to, you know, wipe out European culture, Western culture, Christianity. That's why I woke up to. When I was a student at Yale Law School, I saw dual citizens of Israelis who were

communists who don't believe in God support Israel because they're loyal to Israel, even though they didn't believe in a God. So I saw that. I knew about that. What I didn't realize was how the Orthodox rabbis are as rapidly anti-Western as the communists are. They say that Islam is the broom of Israel to sweep away Christianity, and only when Christianity is destroyed can their Messiah returns. And I'm wide awake about that. So I'm definitely America only anti-Israel. My mindset is I'm opposed to Islam and I'm opposed to Israel, apox in both their houses.

And just to be clear, just to recap, I'm talking to the DOJ, the FBI, already Ed Martin was investigating him. That got killed, but Blanche now has continued, and she is being investigated, not just for funding major white supremac groups in the Southern Barber Law Center as a group being indicted. They are now looking at their targeting of populist pro-Trump groups and J6, and that's what the sources that former proud boys lawyer and my former lawyer, but also my FBI sources have said is, and DOJ sources, and I'll just stop there. is that, no, they are specifically now, the next indictments that they're looking at, and they've got them reportedly, and it means it takes time, is that they wanted to infiltrate the Proud Boys, InfoWars, and Oathkeepers. It only hit the news, Info Wars and Proud Boys, but it was Oathkeepers, too. I'm not confirmed as of yesterday.

That's why I wanted to get you down there. We didn't have time today to talk. It's so much is going on. I'm telling you on air that specifically this lady was trying to get in and radicalize us and set us up. Of course, I was there in the days before. We're like, what do we do of anti-fetched attacks? Well, we're peaceful and support the police. There was never a plan to attack.

Enrique was even there. It would put him in jail for 20-something years if they could. So this is a big deal. We're giving you a first look of what's coming next. And Blanchettys said, no, look for more indictments. I'm not lyingizing him, but they've started the indictments. More indictments have happened. And I would not have the FPI and DOJ reaching out to me.

And I talked to Seraf, and he wouldn't get at all the sources. But he knows people running it. And he said, yeah, indeed, there is a whole bunch more coming. And they are looking at all that. And he's always been really accurate. That's good. Yep, yeah. I'll take what I can get.

Because, you know, we're still, myself, Enrique, Oathkeepers and Proud Boys, were co-defendants of President Trump in two active civil suits against us, claiming that we were trying to disenfranchise black people, you know, violating the KKK Act. That's an old, it's like a zombie. Well, listen, they sued the gay activist, Brandon Strach, didn't even go in the Capitol with that KKK stuff.

Yeah, that's all nonsense. It's the same narrative. They were all white supremacists. We're all, you know, racist. It's just garbage. What it is is they will attack everybody. Like, you know, look at Erika. He's half black, half Cuban.

A lot of the proud boys are black and Hispanic. A lot of the OCupers are that way too. That's why they were scared of it. They're just patriots who love the West. You know, I agree with the proud boy statement that, you know, we're Western chauvinist. That's exactly right. But that's what they were scared of is the fact that it was unified around America. That's right.

They don't want us to unite to defend the West against destruction. That's what the bottom line is. They wanted to destroy the West, destroy Western... Are you with the Chikoms and Islam and Israel Planists off? Because they're for America. It's common sense. So we're going to continue with you. But Enrique, I know, is exhausted at 3 a.m. over in Poland.

Wow, we do what the polls do. They know what to do. Enrique, I want to ask you about that, too. But now seeing them, indicted three months ago, her now indicted, knowing now that they are specifically looking at her for targeting you, Stewart, the oathkeepers, the proud boys, myself. I'm kind of proud in the sick way that we're the three. three groups. I mean, what do you think of that? Means we're doing our job, folks. I mean,

people that call, like Tim Bull, calling me a fed with no proof. Dude, give me a break. I got the, that's a freaking joke. I didn't meet secretly with the ambassador or the prime master of Israel about censoring. I didn't take Russian money like you, pal. And quite frankly, it wasn't funny. I take it as a real insult, man. That's why I called him out for Brernerkel's boxing match. It was a joke at first, but now that you came out and said, you know I took money and then I'm all this other crap. Dude, get in the ring with me, man, because you are a piece of shit. Sorry. Go ahead. That's just the fuck. Well, dude, he takes Russian money

and meets with Israel on censorship and he turns around and says, I'm a foreign agent and won't name it. Sorry, Enrique, go ahead, brother. I'm proud that we're proven bona fide. Deep State enemies number one. We are definitely brothers in this. We don't have a lot of peers. It's weird to be in this club, isn't it? Yeah, brother. So what do you make of being in the club?

And in fact, more than me, they threw your ass in prison. Yeah, well, let me start with this. Alex, like, you've been doing this for a long time, and you saw coming a long time ago. And they start by testing the waters, right? And how does they start by testing the waters? They get groups like the SPLC and then they prod our groups, uh, InfoWars, the Info Warriors out there, the Alex Jones network now, the oathkeepers and the proud boys. And where did they start? And this lady is an important piece to that puzzle. Haiti Bayrick, right? She was the one in charge of contacting the social media companies, Facebook, Twitter, Jack Dorsey, Mark Zuckerberg, and giving them the

information on who to ban. A lot of people don't know this. If you go to my page at Noble One and you go to articles, it's the latest article written up there. And it goes through the timeline of what she's done in here. And Stewart says something that's really important because we gotten all the way from censorship in our voices to de-platforming on flat. financial platforms, and then to eventually putting us in prison, right?

And every step of the way, the SPLC and this woman with this woman at its head has been at the forefront. And that's what they say now. We play clips even today of big leptus groups Democrats saying they want to ban us for public and they want to put us in prison for our speech. I mean, that is totalitarian. It is. It is.

And it always starts with speech. It always starts with the First Amendment and goes all the way through the spectrum. And then with her specifically, if you remember this Black Lives Matter banner that I was sued for, not even the one that was burned, not the one that I allegedly burned. This is another Black Lives Matter banner that I don't even know what happened to it. This lady was their star witness, star witness for the Paul Weiss firm. By the way, the group that's been quarterbacking the lawsuits against me. Yes, yes. It's all the same coordinated group.

All of us, the oath keepers, everybody, everybody involved. She was the woman indicted. Is the star witness on me, you, all of us. Just, yeah. Yeah. And so what we're going to try to do now in the coming week or so is we're going to push back on some of these lawsuits that were defaulted because we were in prison and we couldn't answer none of this. Oh, you got defaulted like Mike Lindell and his smart math. case like Trump and like me.

Yes, a little bit different because what they used in our case is that we weren't responding to these motions. Well, I'll tell you why we were in prison. We were transferred everywhere. You're in the hole and you're supposed to respond. Exactly. So for now,

I owe this the Paul Weiss firm $3 million for that, not even that banner, not even that banner that you have on there. Another banner that we have not seen yet, one that doesn't exist and it all boils down to the SPLC.

Look, Stuart Rhodes is right. To the left, rapes and robs and burns down building is fine. You pull down some commie banner and burn it, you owe three million. You don't even have to do that. You just have to be in the same city where that's being done. And you're sued for $3 million.

And right now, currently, I have an arrest warrant for me because I refuse. I refuse to give up my cell phone. I'm not going to give them my cell phone. I told the judge, right here, like a Zoom conference, like we're doing right now, I told the judge, there is no way in hell that I'm going to give you the Paul Wise firm or that church my cell phone, because it's not that they're looking for financial information, because that's what they're claiming,

that they're looking for financial information on how to collect all this money. I'm going to harass your friends and family, just like they had an infiltrator at oathkeepers that got their data list. They want to go beyond that. They want to get my cell phone and clone the exact everything on the phone and give it to the Paul Wise firm. You know why they want to do that out?

And then Paul Weiss firm, like it to me, will leak the phone to the world to the Southern Public Law Center to publish. The more important thing is forget about leak it to the world. They will leak it. They're waiting. They're playing the long game, right?

They're hoping that a Democrat gets in office on January 20th, 2029, and then they're going to leak it to the DOJ to put us in prison again. That's the goal. Even though there's nothing there because I was there with you. All we were talking about was defending ourselves. So in line of this, let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm still very thankful to Trump. I'm proud I endorse team.

He started going sideways, five months in. And I see you still being pragmatic saying, hey, we're getting what we get. And I agree. The media minister represents it when I call out Trump. You know, you guys were let out of prison by him, and, you know, now I've been almost, you know, set right. And I get that loyalty point. But at the same time, we'd be loyal to America and the truth. What is your view about the fiasco?

Because Trump's actions only war, the inflation, all of it, all the poll show is going to lose the midterms. What do we do about Trump? Look, I'm going to give you my response, and I've given this response multiple times. I'm loyal to the president, you know, being in the hole for three years and sitting there, does something to a person. By the way, I respect that, and I respect you, and people that are still loyal, and I'm still overall, you know, support

the good things he does, I'm not mad at. It's a lot of the neocons attack us and say, we're traitors, come after us when we tell the truth. They're the ones trying to say, we're not allowed to ask questions, but I respect that and understand that, Enrique. Because if they were to do that to me, and look, again, if they were to do that to me

to throw you under the bus, there, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to say absolutely not. For one, because you guys didn't do anything wrong. And two, it doesn't matter. I'm not throwing my friends under the bus. But I will tell you this. That loyalty doesn't trickle down into his appointees.

And if they're not doing their job, I'm going to call them out. I was one of the first ones, one of the first ones to call out Pam Bondi. I got shit on so hard. I went after her at the end of February. She hadn't even been AG yet for, I think, like three weeks. And I went full throng. on her. So that loyalty does not extend to his appointees.

They're supposed to be doing the job. They're supposed to be committing the agenda. I get that the president's at the head of this, but these people are tasked with putting these people in prison. The SPLC, you know when Heidi should have been indicted? In March, at the latest in March,

I would have given Pam about 30 days to put that magic desk together and put her in prison. Well, let me back you up. I was told by multiple DOJ sources that Bondi was using that as dirt and was going to slow roll it. And to Blanche's credit, I just do it with my sources, you know, tell me because they've been proven accurate. They don't even know each other that he just didn't get in the way.

He just greenlit it. That's one other questions, Stuart. Why do you think he greenlit this? The prosecution? Yeah, he just said, do whatever. He just said, do your job. Like I told me. And Bonnie was blocking her.

Like I told Harrison earlier, the Trump administration is schizophrenic. You see good things, but then you see like Chena going to prison on Monday for being a mom. Why was she persecuted and prosecuted under Trump's roof? Under the new DOJ trial in December of 2025 and sentencing in April of 2026, why is that still going on? Let me answer your question. I'm grateful to President Trump, even grateful to the DOJ for what they've done to restore our rights. He said it's free, a rights for restored. but my oath was to the Constitution of the United States, not to any man.

I served as a paratrooper in the Army. I have to hold him as his feet to the fire. He has the same oath I took. He has a duty responsibility. Except preserve. He has more. He does. You're right. Even more so as a president. So I have to say, my honor-bounded my oath to say, President Trump, you are squandering

an opportunity to save this country. You were saved him Butler for a reason? This is not it. The reason was to drain the swamp and take down the deep state. he's got to get back on track. No man's beyond redemption, but he needs to get back on track. He's gone off track.

And I'm duty-bound to say that, as grateful as I am, him setting me free. I have a duty responsibility to speak the truth to him. I have a little bit of breaking news, actually. Please. You hear me?

Yes, sir. Go ahead. It's coming on my screen right now. So the DOJ has just filed what it's, and excuse me, because I haven't been able. Take your time. Take your time.

I can't read the whole thing right now. I'll send it over to you guys, so maybe you report on it. But the DOJ has filed two dismissal motions in our civil case and one motion to change venue, which I'm kind of actually liking just by reading the top. So you were just saying you needed that 20 months ago and now it's happening? Yeah, literally right now. As Stewart was talking, I see the emails coming in. Again, I haven't been able to read them.

This is, this was expected by us. We know this. We got to see what the content in, the strength in it. The DOJ procedure is no matter what they're supposed to. By policy, they're supposed to file a dismissal motion. I think Stewart might know that. Let's see the strength of it, because last time it had passed muster with the judge. The only thing is that the judge wanted us to rearrange.

our civil lawsuit against the United States, and we did in this case. So let's see where the judge falls on this. But I'll send this over to you guys so you can analyze it. Well, look at the public effect of this. The ADL and Southern Party Law Center, or joined the hip in covert operations and running these groups. I don't see, just the court of public opinion, this is a major blow against them.

Regardless, this is a political public victory. Agreed. In the court of public opinion, they're losing right now. And the ADL is exactly the same, and even worse in some ways. Because you've got the leader of the ADL over in Israel colluding with them about how they should censor Americans and target Americans. He's right there with Mossad. And I believe both of them are like that. I think if you unravel that string, you'll find that Mossad, ADL, SPLC, CIA, FBI have been colluding together for decades to demonize anyone who's standing up against the injimilar. to destroy the West, to destroy the United States, destroy our Constitution, and destroy Western Christian civilization. He looks like a supervillain from like a...

Looks like Nosferatu. He does. And look, that guy, and I agree with Stewart wholeheartedly, I think, if we're going to go after the SPLC, the ADL should be investigated and prosecuted. I hope that that's in the books. I hope, like, I'm speaking this, and there's somebody in the background. on working at. Yeah, we need, we need these organizations are like the public face.

You got to think about these as the fourth column of government, right? They know that they can't circumvent the constitution just openly. So what they use is they use the SPLC on the ADL to circumvent to silence Americans to pressure the social media companies to silence us to get financial platforms to de-platform us, credit card processors. I know that you've had quite a time with credit card processors. Demanging all of it. I mean, when Trump first got in, that CD-ROM, of how it was targeted by Obama and then by Biden, by the FBI for destruction.

It said that. And so that's the big issue here is this is real government weaponization. This is terrorizing the American people. And again, you're right. This has to be totally dismantled. And the American people have to become aware of what we're dealing with her. And one message to the president, if he's watching here. Stewart said it, you know, we only got, we got two years left, less than two years left in this administration.

President Trump, if the DOJ doesn't take action against these bad actors, and I already think it might be a little bit too late, if we don't take action on these, like ASAP, they're coming for you. and once they take you out, right? That's it. There's no longer this loud voice that'll help us out like you did with us on January 6th. They're going to come for me, and I don't care what you think about my brother Alex here. They're going to come for him. They're going to come for Stewart. And they're going to come for your family.

And I think that that's, I think the most important thing is weaponization of the United States government under Joseph R. Biden is the number one, number one issue in America. It isn't the economy. I'll gladly pay more for eggs or for oil if we get these bad actors. No, I agree. We saw real mass indictments. The Republicans will win in a landslide. That's where all the numbers show.

And we're starting to see it a little bit, which I didn't even think we would see. And we need to see a lot more. We need to see it right now. But I got to tell you, the Paul Weiss law firm, Costco and Costco that run all of this. It's all coordinated, all the same groups. Here's a question for both of you. I kind of tee this up at first. I'm trying to say, oh, aren't we cool? I was kind of joking. It's not been fun.

Why do you think, because it's come out now, and it's confirmed from Norm Patis and others, and my sources, the DOJ. Why were they obsessed with InfoWars, Oathkeepers, and the proud boys? Why did they target us? They fear us. They know they can't intimidate us. They can't intimidate us. They can't scare us into shutting up. And so that's why they're trying to take us down by every means possible, including putting us in pros. And that's why I raised it out to Tude our horn. Oh, we're badass. We did our mission, we did our mission, our duty.

What we're doing is what others should do. What we're doing is what the enemy fears. That's right. And Rick, how you want to comment on that? Why they came after us? I'll tell you why they came after us. It's very clear why they came after us. This, all three of us right here, we're in the fourth dimension, Alex.

We don't just create pixels. We don't just have shows. We don't just speak to a microphone. We come out of that screen that you guys are watching right now, and we do things in real life. And that is the scariest thing when it comes to looking at us as opponents, right? We're not known for our mean tweets. We're not known for arguing on the Internet. We're known for organizing and taking action.

And that is the scariest thing in the world. You know, look, I wish... I have a told by top Democrats when they decided to come after me really with the CIA hard. They were already doing it. When they saw a third of the people at the RNC in 2016 in Cleveland wearing our shirts, and we had airplanes saying Hillary for president and sandwich trucks with TV things against Hillary. They were like, that's what they said.

They said it was us organizing the people. It was the fact that we were willing to energize, which isn't about how great we are. It shows what the enemy fears and what they're actually worried about is real grassroots action. It's why they killed Charlie Kirk. Same thing. He went out there in physical space

and took the risk of putting himself out there. That's right. And one of the people, one of the groups and one of the people to blame for the assassination of Charlie Kirk is also the SPLC. You know, they demonize them so much. They sat there. They kept hammering him until somebody or a group. Relation.

That they needed to take out a nation, that they needed to take out Charlie Kirk. And look, they did it. And we're next. We might not get a bullet to the throat, but all they got to do is, put us in a concrete coffin at a BOP facility and do what they did to us. Well, that's what they said about, that came out in different documents. And Charlie talked about it. The minute he saw Trump reelected, he said, great, I'm not going to prison.

They had the DOJ all over him. They were planning to put him in prison, claiming money laundering or whatever, because they were raising all this money, getting all these millions of voters. And it was because he was so boy next door, and really wasn't really just, you know, leave it to be a real guy. We are too, but we're a little more racy, at least the way we look. You know, we're somewhat tough guys and, you know, literal veterans, you know, eye patch and you rake ahead. It doesn't look like a pussy either.

They're like, well, at least we can just demonize these guys. But Charlie, they just said kill his ass because they knew the demonization. The indictment wasn't going to work. So in a way, it's lucky that they kind of saw us as rougher or they'd have blasted us. And I don't want to predict anything, but I'll tell you, I think we're all now going to the future, particularly once Trump's gone. I think they're going to just go right to that next. Can you feel the dangers to it? Oh, sure, but hey, I accept that a long time ago.

I do, too. I'm just saying, no, we're scared of it. I'm just saying, this is a man's game. This is, we're not, we're in the arena. We're not fucking around. I'm on bonus time. I almost died twice in the Army and once afterward. So I'm on bonus time.

I'm okay with it. What did Heidi Bayrick have to do with the Charlie Kirk assassination? I'd like to see an investigation into that too. Oh, but that's the thing. People have their questions about it, and that's fine. But the left said we're going to kill him. They said he'll be dead when he comes to town tomorrow. And then they celebrated it.

But then you got the FBI covering up foreign involvement. So then I'm like, look at it. And so people ask what's how to my own? I just investigated it. Let me ask you both. Just in a couple minute, five-minute analysis, Stewart, and then let's go to Enrique. And then we'll let him get some sleep to bring in Joe Biggs. And people say, well, it's a black colleague can't prove it either way.

But we need to address the public. The loss of trust in the system is because the system has been so deceptive. But Stewart Rhodes, just looking at this fiasco and where it's going, gut level, what do you think really happened with Charlie Kurt? I think he was killed by Mossad. That's what I believe. I think that he was... Elaborate. I think he was... I think he was...

They liked him as long as he was supporting Israel, and as soon as he started questioning what happened on October 7th and saying it must have been a stand-down order, because he knew there's no way, and I saw the same thing. He said, I've flown from Jerusalem to the border with

Gaza, and it only takes like 45 minutes. Why was there not a rapid response? to the attack. Why were they not jets? Why were they not attack helicopters or airborne troops? And he made a good point. It makes no sense. It's kind of like what happened with 9-11 in our country, a stand-down order was given, basically. So I think that's why they killed him. He started calling the question that and started looking behind the curtain about what's going on and why, and he became too dangerous because he went off the reservation. They thought he was an asset, he turned into somebody that could be a dangerous opponent for them and take them down,

and that's why he was killed. That's what I believe. And that's why the FBI, under Cash Patel and Bongino, were putting a cabosh on Joe Kent looking into, doing his job, looking into a foreign nexus into the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So whether there's smoke, there's fire. Enrique, what do you think, brother? Stewart, look, I can't pretend to be a professional. I don't have enough time.

I have way too many guys to take care of, to actually sit with all the facts in this case. Um, one thing I will tell you, a personality that actually bothers me. And look, uh, I know a lot of people are going to disagree with what I say right now. I believe Candace Owens is a charlatan. Um, I believe, uh, I've seen it from the beginning, her race vating, her, her sitting there, using her race to, to, to further her cause and every time just playing that SJW, I think, I think she does a disservice, honestly, to people that actually want to seek the truth.

People like you, people like Alex, um, I think, there's a lot of people that do want to seek the truth. And she, she kind of makes it hard for people to even put a question mark on it. Because instantly, like, you're, you're, uh, you go with the rhetoric that she says. I've known, I've, I've known about her and I've known her for quite a bit. And I could tell you that one person that you shouldn't listen to here is her. Um, asking questions is fine. Um, and look, I, I think that there might be, there might be something to it just being more than just the shooter, right?

I think, I think there's, there's, He definitely had it. He might be the shooter. He definitely had help. And let me say this. I want you to continue here, Rakey. This is a big topic. And people do it and say, well, wait, one guy says this facade, another guy saying this.

I respect what these men. We don't know. I'm pretty smart. And I don't know. I talked to a lot of military people and others. You know, the story doesn't add up. They can't figure it out. The thing is so bizarre.

Because the FBI covering up, and I've confirmed that with Joe Kent. I didn't get that from him at the time, but I confirmed it later. He was in the meeting. Sports told me when I first broke it, six days, seven days after. that six days after Patel comes in and says it's all done, even though Gabbert's supposed to oversee the intelligence domestic and foreign. He said, you're out of this. The president said so.

That's right. And so, but absolutely, people get confusing. Why did I criticize Candace on some issues, but then say, I think she won the debate. Well, I thought she won the debate just the way it came off. It doesn't mean I agree with everything she's saying. Doesn't mean I think she's right about everything. I think I went too far bashing her because I just couldn't believe knowing some of the TPA USA people that have been there 10, 15 years that they would be part of that.

I don't, that's, I know too much about the military and intelligence and assassinations. There's not a Fort Wachuka with 12 colonels a day before meeting on something like that. I don't care about any of that. I base it on the fact that they told Joe Kent to back off about a foreign nexus. That is my... No, no, no, I agree. But then people think you've got to say every theory that's brought up must be true. All I did early on was say, there's a cover-up.

They also won't look at the domestic groups. And then there was all this stuff that I knew wasn't true being injected. I said that's not accurate. I got called him a side agent for doing real research. I got a little pissed at her and kind of went after her. But then I realized there's this giant cover up. I'm not pushing the cover up either. I'm trying to call balls and strikes,

which is very frustrating because usually on the political issue, I can be cut and dry and be clear on it. On something like this, you want to trust the jury and the trial, but I've been through show trial show of you, so they don't have trust in that. And that's why I say it's the ultimate conundrum. So finish your point, and then you, and then you, Stuart Sar to interrupt.

Go ahead. I mean, look, I'm just going to give you a general point. Look, that's what the beauty of like this group is, like us, us talking to each other. We disagree or we kind of put question marks on things differently. We're wargaming something. We're brainstorming. We're, exactly. We're brainstorming.

And like, look, I don't like the infighting, but it happens because in the conservative movement, we're independent thinkers. We come up to different conclusions on different things. And that's okay. And look, again, the Charlie Kirk thing isn't, I think it's one of the, if not the biggest tragedy of this century right now, currently as it stands. But it's not my lane. You know, my lane is to make better men. That's it. You know, I wish my friend Sarah Fields would come in and take this case.

You know, I agree. I'm not trying to take away from it, but it's become a black hole where it takes half the energy and all these other issues we don't even look at. Correct. Correct. And that's all I'm going to say. Look, I go back to one more point. I'm loyal to you guys, because you know what? You Alex and you, Stuart, you guys have been loyal through this whole thing. And look, my loyalties to people.

And the people of America first before anything, our nation can fall. And I'll stick with you guys. We got to worry about the Democrat Socialist America. We'll finish up on Kirkland. I want to ask you both. And we'll let and Rickett go and bring Biggs on. Spend a lot over in Poland. And, yeah, as much as I get upset with Trump went sideways, my God, the Democrats are just demons.

I mean, they are just... Right. So to finish up on Charlie Kirk, I think they feared him for the same reason they fear us. And the man was brilliant, and he was fearless. He was a vowed Christian, very sincere in his faith. Real deal. And he was winning kids over to Christ. And that was dangerous to the left, of course.

But then when he began to question with his courage and his integrity and saying, I'm not going to take the money and just shut up. You can't make me be quiet to stop answering questions or stop asking questions about what happened with Israel. And then they tried to spin it. That's one big, one big strike in the CBOSA. They said, none of that's true. He called me and said that.

He'd said it on TV. Then she released all the text messages. That to me, separate from who the delivery person is, that was really powerful. Yeah, and he's telling Joe Kent in private conversations, make sure that we don't go to war with Iran. He told me that. He called and thanked me.

Right. So like I said, I think they feared him, and they feared him going off the reservation, and they killed him for that. And by the way, he didn't call me, but a couple times a year, he called me during Midnight Hammer and said, keep the thing on. They want us to go to full war. It'll destroy everything. It's terrible. Keep it up. We appreciate you. And he called me, and he thanked me for exposing Ebscsey that said, keep the heat on. We're close to getting Trump through the right thing. So, I mean, I said, I said, well, you're important, and we want to work with you. You just come as more events. Can you come to this? but he was literally so genuine. He said, yeah, I'm calling people all day. And that's what Kent said.

He was running around the White House. I don't need to believe Joe Kent, who has incredible integrity. He did it to me. Yeah. I mean, so I know. Right. So two final points on that. A, if the FBI's lips are moving, I assume they're lying.

I call them FBI lie for a reason. B, I think Charlie Kirk, with his integrity, was so dangerous he would have become President of the United States. And if they couldn't control him, they had to shut him down. like they did with JFK when he started going off the reservation. That's where I stand on this. I mean, I agree with you. The prime suspect is a deep state out of Israel, but at the same time,

bare minimum, they wound the left up to do it and not covering up for the support network of leftists that got him to do it. Or a collusion of both. It could be a combination of both things. And Mossad is as a community assassinations all over the world. There's a book about that called Rise and Kill First. All about the Massa. They're extremely competent. Yeah, they do it all over the world.

Enrique, closing comments, and then just in general, how is it in Poland? So I was just saying, Charlie called me in February after I got out to congratulate me, you know, and I always love him for it. Classy as hell. Yeah, like, he didn't have to, he didn't have to call me. He could have just, like, celebrated it on Twitter like everybody else. So that's there. And then Poland, Poland is, man, their motto is be like Poland. And it should be shameful for us because we should have.

the same immigration system that Poland has. And their sign for their immigration is this. And we all know what this sign is. But to them, that means zero, zero immigration. We've seen the videos. They don't let anybody in here. I have never, I've traveled quite a bit this past year and a half. I have never seen a capital so clean and so pristine.

The grass is a perfect height. there's not even like a bubble gum wrapper on the ground. Everybody's peaceful. I haven't seen one homeless person. This place is a dream. They have a great MEP here. Dominic, we're going to have dinner with him tomorrow. This place, I mean, you guys got to come here.

Alex, you got to see this firsthand. I hear all about it. I'm going to go. Let's go together. Let's do it. Let's go to Poland. I hear it's beautiful. It's beautiful.

I'm here for another couple days, sightseeing with some great people. Let's hope it's vaporized in nuclear war with Russia. Yeah. So, super base. And how do people find you and follow your great work? We got a new website for the studio and the shop. It's warboys.tv. And there you can go catch our newest podcast.

You could, our written stories and our merchandise gear. all in one place. By the way, I love that black on gold hoodie. I'm going to get me one of those as soon as it gets cold. Yeah, I'll bring you one. I'll bring you one. I've got to go up there to Austin and go see you, man. Well, you got an open invitation anytime you want, brother, and we really appreciate you. Warboys.com.

Thank you, guys. Thank you, Stuart. I'll call you tomorrow, brother. Good bless, brother. Be safe. And up until four in the morning to talk to us. Let's get Joe Begs on. Yeah.

Bottom line, people can get discouraged, but compared to third. 30 years ago and almost somebody who was away, we've moved the needle a lot. The globalists are in trouble, which means they're going to strike back. But, I mean, overall, aren't you optimistic? You were in prison, and then they ban you coming on. You're like, Trump will be elected, I will be released. We will save the country, blah, blah, blah. You remember those conversations?

I had faith that I would not see that, do that time. Repeat what you said, how you knew in the hole. You finally get out for months and get a few phone calls out. They banned you again and threw you back in or moved you a bunch. Well, I forget the story, but I was like, God, this guy's, because I was, they were under, I was under attack. And I wasn't going to give up, but I was getting a little depressed, and I thought if this guy can be in solitary and if I'm getting tortured, and I was totally innocent, and I was there, I got to stop being a pussy.

I mean, you were literally an example to me to be a man. I mean, I wasn't going to falter or give up, but I was like feeling sorry for myself a little bit. And I was like, if these guys could hack it and be so positive, you sounded so good on the phone. I was like, shit, I better pull up here. Right. Well, to be clear, like guys like Joe Biggs is coming on right now. They were actually in even a year longer than I was.

What got me through was my faith. I knew that, like the story of Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers and then betrayed by his master's wife, with false accusations thrown in prison, that what man means for evil, God will you for good. I had faith that we would prevail in the end. So I had that faith. That's what got me through was my faith. And then you wake up the whole president's too. I really got upset about that.

Oh, no, they were all pro-Trump. I mean, 90% of the prisoners and the guards, black, white, Hispanic, everyone was pro-Trump. And the other thing got me through this is my family history, military men that served in World War II, What I was going through was nothing. I'm sure Joe feels the same way about it. As a veteran, I saw myself as a prisoner of war. I'm not going to let the enemy break me. I knew that what we were going through was nothing compared to what guys went through in Korea or Vietnam as prisoners of war for World War II with Japanese.

So we sucked it up and just dealt with it. I got to say this. It is true. I saw the Special Forces veteran in his legs moment in Afghanistan. I want the ships to be nice. I know they're treating them bad. But then I release to other veterans for World War II, Korea. of Vietnam, where nothing but rations from World War II for months, you know, 30 years later,

you know, just flees, bugs all over them, no food, no medicine, everything rotting. I mean, comparatively, the way we fight wars is very comfy compared to what it used to be. People aren't signing for the military to be on a bed of roses. Well, look, I'm always with the troops. I don't trust the brass. I don't want to use the troops. I'm just making my point. But then Trump had an arrogant statement about, I'm showing both sides about, oh, they haven't been deployed quite long enough.

I'm just saying clogged toilets and some rotting food, which is not good. I'm just saying compared to what military is over before, it's not a big, you know, it's nothing. Right. So we keep in perspective. I think Joe will agree with me on this is that, you know, we know what it's, you know, the history of the guys like in Hanoa Hilton in Vietnam, for example, you know, what they went through was horrible compared to what we went through. But we went through was nothing compared to that.

So it helped us. I think us veterans had a easier time dealing with this. And frankly, prisons a lot like the military for that matter. It really is. you're throwing together a bunch of other guys from all over the country, black, white, and Spanning, you've got to get along. And so I think that we had a leg up. I'll let Joe talk about that too.

Joe Bage, former political prisoners. And I tell you, Stuart, you got that same thing. Steve Bannigan, came out of prison looking 10 years younger. That's right. It preserves you, it does. Prison kind of preserves you, you know? It does. So, Joe, going back to the original region you're on the night,

I appreciate the time. A cute little dog, bring that back on TV. What's the dog's name? You want to steal that crazy. This is Molly. This is my new baby right here. This is Molly. Molly's starving it.

Look at that fat belly. Good God. Oh, yeah. Anyway. Oh, my God. We got a little rent like that in the office. But it's a true lot of day. But the seeing the SPLC thing, and I'm revealing to you guys,

that it's confirmed you guys were targeted, along with me, and the oathkeepers. I know you already know this, but. I can't stroke. Why do you think we all, why do you think all of us got targeted? What do you make of this lady that target us and ran the attacks in the lawfare against us? Has been indicted in the word as she may be indicted for targeting us, specifically. She's under investigation for that.

Is that something exciting to you, Joe Biggs? Or do you think it's a day later, a dollar short, or you think we're being hopeful? Or what do you say to that? Well, look, I think the reason they target us is this, is, you know, there's a lot of people to get on the Internet, and they have a lot to say, right? But we actually put boots on the ground. We actually get out there and mingle with the people and actually get the pulse of what Americans think. And the truth is like a spark in a dry cornfield. You know, when we get out there and talk and people hear what we have to say,

and they see the brotherhood that we have and they see the vision we have for this country, and they know that we love the Constitution to support it, they know it's going to spread like wildfire. And that's why they want to suppress us so much is because we don't just have an online presence. We have a boots on the ground presence everywhere we go. People line up to see us. They want to talk to us. They want to be around us.

We want to hear what we have to say because they know that we have a passion for this. That we put ourselves out there. So many people put themselves out there online, you know, in a minute, you know, trying to hide who they are. But we don't. We put our names out there. We put out who we are, where we are, where we live, and make it easy for them to find us because we're not scared. right we love this place and we're going to fight for it no matter what tooth and nail you can throw me in jail you can throw me in solitary confinement and i'm going to sit there on my head held high and i'm going to fight back and guess what doer and i and ricka and i we kept our heads held high and we kept our eyes and ears and nose in the bible and look where god is right here god is good and we were able to sit there and fight that fight make it through that you know trial and tribulation and get back back out here on the battlefield.

And I don't know if we can pull up, BRO, I don't want you to elaborate on this, Joe. The images in D.C., in California and in L.A., in Portland, Oregon, in Seattle, of a bunch of black, white, Hispanic Americans, Asians, marching together with pride in the country, standing up to Antifa attacking peaceful Christian barbecues and things. That was antithetical and horrified them,

funding the white supremac groups, funding the black supremac scripts, trying to make us kill each other. It wasn't just men standing up for America. It was men coming together. It freaked the living hell out of them. And that's why they came after you guys and came after roadkeepers was because you were the opposite of what they claimed America really was. And they knew it was infectious, as you just said.

So I'm not happy we all got targeted and me not as bad as you guys. So I was, you look there. I'm junior to the persecution you've gone through. But just the fact that whatever it is we're doing is the answer because they're scared of it. Oh, yeah. I mean, they've been working the side out for. You know, they've been putting stuff on our food that you've been talking about forever. They've been trying to weaken us, dumb us down.

They've been trying to math manipulate us through propaganda, through our TV shows, through cartoons, you know, even installing, you know, sorrows teachers and colleges and schools and things like that. But, yeah, and we were the few that rose above it. You know, we were the few that rose above it and had a voice and we weren't afraid to stand up. So we got out there and we rose above. what they had thought that they'd dumbed us down to them. People saw us.

And they go, man, if these guys can do it, we can do it, we can fight back. And it scared them. They really did. They saw us as public enemy number one. You know, it blows my mind still that I got more time in jail than Al Capone, you know. And this is the guy who legitimately, like, put people in the ground. And my crime is what? Sharing our country's, you know, history and telling people about the Constitution.

I was throwing the hole for giving a man a pocket constitution because they said that I was trying to hand out right-wing extremist propaganda. That's where we live now. This is no longer the land of the free. Free speech in this land right now is a myth. It's a lie. If you think that you really have free speech in this country, you're sadly mistaken. You know, the flock camera is going up.

They are building a police state, and that's something you've been talking about since way back, but now we're at a point where it's no longer just. talk. It is actually happening. And they don't like it when people like us get out there and say no and stay in toe to toe to them and said, we're not going to back down. We're not scared to you. You're not going to scare us. We're going to sit here and we're going to tell you to go screw yourself. We're not scared. And what that does is that's created a tidal wave of patriotism in this country. And then Trump comes on a scene, you know, back in 2016. And he's talking the same kind of stuff. It creates this new move that it's got everybody amped up, you know, and they're scared that they're losing a grasp right now.

They're clutching, you know, at what they can you do and barely hold on. And they just don't understand that men like us, we don't back down. It doesn't matter what you do to us. We're going to continue to fight until our last dying breath, and we won't give up. Well, that's right, Joe. And, again, this is proof. They're scared of what we've been doing. They're scared of what you've been doing.

And let's talk about Trump right now, though. I mean, I was nothing but a cheerleader until four months into this administration. It was so good. I couldn't believe it on the economy with Doge. On the border, on bringing Josh's back, it was insanely good. He followed through on no wars, new wars when he was president the last time. And then he began to say, hey, Epstein doesn't exist. Go to sleep.

The FBI said Epstein, you know, killed himself and didn't do anything wrong. And then we saw, you know, everything else that unfolded and came out of that. and then this war, and now I think we're going to lose the midterms, and as populist, conservative nationalists, we're not in a cult like Democrats, but also they're super evil. So they're just thinking, well, just support him no matter what. Well, the Democrats will win, but it's his activity that's turning off his base. And I know you're very loyal to Trump, and I'm very thankful and proud.

I support him in the past. We've got a lot of good done. But I wish there was some way to get him to turn around and stop this. And I just don't know if it's too late. But what is it like for you, paradoxically, who I've done. I know is very thankful to Trump and, you know, all the rest of it, but you put your skin in the game. How do you feel about this? And where do you see the country going? And then, you know, we can sit here and bitch about Trump and don't worry I do because I'm personally hurt by it and want to do better. But what happens when the

Democrats get back in? It's easy to sit here now. But we should talk about what do we do. How do we thread that needle? Oh, I mean, I think I was probably one of the first people to start going against some of the things that you've done. You know, I am. I know. And I knew that, but I want to say it in your I mean, where are you now on it? Yeah. Well, I'm loyal to the Constitution. I'm loyal to God. I'm loyal to the people of my country.

And I believe in America only. I think America first... No, I agree. You're loyal to Trump, but I'm first... I'm first God, family, country, and then other... I mean, I'm not even loyal to myself compared to me. If I think about myself, I would have sold out of the globalists, me, me, me.

I'm not even loyal to myself. I'm an individualist, but I am very collectivist in my action. And I will sacrifice to the death for the greater good because that's what I was designed to do. I'm not a collective. It's the opposite, but I will sacrifice myself for the collective. There's a real paradox there. It's called being a man. Yeah, it's called being a man.

Yeah, like, and this is my thing. Elected officials are not free from any height of criticism. You know, these men or women or whatever, they run for office and they make promises, right? and if they don't fulfill those promises, or at least I see that they don't try to do it to the best of the ability that I know that they can, I will call them out for it. You know, you look at old Trump from, you know,

the apprentice days and things like that. He kept people around. He kept this tight group of people around them. But it seems like he's not done that as well, you know, over the last few years. He's got a lot of people that he doesn't really know what they're doing. He holds these meetings. He just holds what they say.

at face value and believes that they're going to do what he asked them to do instead of going in and checking in to see if they do. So he gets on TV and makes these wild remarks going, well, yeah, well, this is happening. This is going up because he knows that he told so and so to do this, but they're not doing it. You know, he needs, he's a, he's a detached leader at this point. And I've used this over the last year, so since I've been home. He needs to get back to being a micromanager in a sense. And I hate micromanaging. But when it comes to America right now, he has an agenda that he was voted in for that the mass majority of Americans wanted

and he needs to sit there and put his foot down. He needs to be checking in on these individuals, these picks that... I totally, so let me ask you both this. I want to go back into the Senate Department Law Center and the ADL and their attacks, and I think false flags they're obviously planning and they've done before.

What comes after Trump? Because even if he was great, everybody keeps... I was in this debate if he would go with these neocons. It's going to air Brandon Strach put on like next week. And they were just like, we have to have him. He's never going away.

are king. Oh, my God. I'm like... The brightness? I'm like, he's already gone. You're not too bright, Joe. You look great. But you can fix that if you want to minute. And I love the realnesses. We're live here on TV. We want to see the wiener dog again. I want to steal that dog for you. Oh, they want to see the dog again. I was supposed to see your winner. There's a knob under there. Oh, yeah. I want to see your wrenner. No, thank you.

I was getting the brightness. It doesn't matter. So, yeah, just name of the dog. So I was going to make a t-shirt. I was going to make a t-shirt that my girlfriend with her one. This says she only loves me for my small wiener. I love that. This is a mini Dodson, and we got her from a breeder in Okachobi, and she's about, what, 12-13? That's 12-13 weeks old. That's the sweet.

That's a big one. That's a standard one, then. No, no, no. She's tiny. Trust me. She looks big, like, when you're looking, like, on camera. When people see her and everything, that's right. Yeah.

It looks a bigger on camera. Oh, look at that old. It looks underfed, though. That belly's not fat. I'm joking. It's a little fatty. Look at that. Oh, my God.

I love those dogs. Oh, my Chihuini's are really cute, dude. Yeah, I love it. Let's just look at this for a while. I'm sorry. All right. So what comes after Trump? Well, you know, what we're going to do is we've got to make people make sure that, you know,

people that have the same kind of points of view as us and understandings of what the country should be are getting involved in politics and running. You know, me and myself, I'm probably going to run for Mayor of Ormond Beach next to a round. I've already been meeting with people and talking about that. And then from there, I'd like to run for Congress, you know.

But I think that's something that we should be doing and take them seriously, especially people who've been, you know, put to the ringer by a weaponized DOJ. Well, I'm by saying, you want to know who's true, it's people that it could have lied about Trump and let out of prison any time, didn't it? We don't just need lawyers, people. We need veterans of the information war and of the physical war for the

Republican. I bring this up at the third time to get bigger answers from you. We're not tooting our horn. This is science, political science. They targeted you myself, you know, the oathkeepers, the Provoys, and Info Wars in all these documents more than anybody else. It's not that we're great. It's what

did they fear. It's boots on the ground. It's not being afraid. It's being true Americana. It's unifying people, regardless of race, color, and creed around America. We need to be able to tell people, hey, you want what the vampires are scared of, it's scared of what we did. And we're not that special. All of you can do it.

But we've learned the trial and error. They really don't like what we are. And I'll be all saying. I'm on a power trip. I'm not into status. But the few things I start get a little bit of pride about is being enemy number one. I mean, we are in quite a fraternity here. I'm only stating that for viewers that kind of click.

Like when you support us, you're a part of this fraternity too. We're enemy number one and we want to be enemy number one. We want to be over the target, getting the flag. Amen. And I support Joe and running. brother, you do that? I'll come out and knock on doors for you. Let's do it. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, they use the Pfizer courts to go against this. They have, they had me, you know, like as the most wanted at Interpol.

The FBI had me as one of the most wanted. I take that as a badge of honor. You know, how many people out there can say that, you know, when you know that the government's wrong right now and they're not doing the right thing and they're targeting you over everyone else, that's true that you're getting off your app and you're doing something and you're, you know, making yourself a target. I know it's scary. I know it's a frightening thing to have, you know, the United States versus Joe Biggs or Sewer Rose or Alex Jones.

That's scary as shit to have the weight of the United States government behind that. But guess what? When you stand tall and he looked him in the face and go, I'm not backing down, they don't know what to do. You know, they even come to me. He said, if even gets killed, we're not looking for that. But we signed up for this. So, you know, they always threaten.

too, and like we don't already know. Like, we know you're bad. We know it's dangerous. Like, you know, that really takes power from, like you said, Joe, when they figure out that you do know and you don't care, it takes their power. Well, yeah. I mean, I think it's that I don't give a fuck attitude is what they're scared of.

Go ahead, Joe. You know, I believe there's a lot more to it behind this SPLC, and I'm going to throw some knowledge out here real quick. But there is the group I've talked to you before about Task Force Orange TFO. And then there's also a civilian group. It's called F3EA. And this is a creation, an amazing creation designed

to fuse real-time ops, intel, to target, locate, capture, kill, a single human anywhere on the planet. But the fear that people were going to have was going to be turned on us. General Flynn was actually talked to about this in Kabul in 2010, and they brought this group to the forefront, and they used it and turned it around the American people with people like I believe. I remember when the Army colonel went public on OAN like four years ago. Yeah, for folks that don't know, spend more time on this. Yeah, so Task Force Orange is a group they used to call the activity.

This is a special forces group that is great at human intel, human resources, things like that, interrogations, sci ops, things like that. They dig in. They're great at spine using drones, getting your audio off stuff. they work with the NSA. But this is a group that we use to go after people like Osama bin Laden and others across, you know, the world. But now these groups are being turned inward. And that's always been the fear.

What would happen if that happened? And now with this rise of these flock cameras gumming up, we have infinite cameras all over the place, allowing these entities to have a bird's eye view to look at us nonstop day in and day out. They already have backdoors at Apple. They already have backdoors, all of our stuff. We used to get laughed out when we talked about that the were listening devices in our refrigerators and things like that. Now people are willingly buying Alexis and all this stuff to put in their home. Everything that we have now that we think is going to help make our lives easier is actually another pile of dirt on our grave.

We are literally burying ourselves every day with what we consider to be this cool technology. And yeah, I'm a victim. I do like technology. But I also understand the dangers of it. And people need to understand that as well. They're watching us. They are building these data centers, you know, our newly elected to be possible governor,

Byron Donald is a huge proponent of having these data centers. And they're going to use that to sort all this stuff, not just your movement is what they say for criminal activity, but for everything so they can start creating patterns and see where you go, when you go, and how you're doing. It's going to be a minority. report. It's going to be like minority report and they're going to start predicting things that they say you're going to do and they're going to use it against you. We are entering the final

stages of a full-on police state and people are happy about it and they're okay with it because it's all about making change these years. Meanwhile, the SOROs and judges over a thousand of them, they are letting all the criminals out. It's all pure crap. Yeah, it's war. Yeah. And eventually, you've got, you've got a train to be used. I'm sorry, Charjo. It's going to be used, just like Joe's talking about, the same kind of targeting. It's not just law enforcement. It's going to be military targeting inside the United States. Absolutely.

All right, back to the SPLC. Joe, what do you make of the group being indicted, their intelligence head being indicted, and again, it coming out. What would you like to see? What do you think Todd Blanche is really up to? Well, look, I don't know what he's up to. You know, he's been working with Trump for a long time, and honestly, as soon as Pam Bonnie was fired, he was one of the first ones to jump in there to get us free, you know, and get us everything, you know, brought back, you know, justice-wise for myself,

Enrique and Stuart Rose and things like that. So I can't hate on him too much for that. No, I mean, I mean, from all his intel, Kyle Servant says he thinks he's probably good. So I thought when he killed Ed Martin's investigation into my weaponization stuff, he was bad. He wanted to meet with me, and I thought it was a setup, so I told him a few public on air maybe I should meet with him. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I would think so I feel like he is someone that is kind of open-minded and willing to sit down.

I think he actually has a level head. But what I'm worried about is this of what we've seen so far for the last year. So, you know, it's easy to get indictments. I mean, holy shit. And this DOJ and this day and age in our justice system, anyone can get an indictment. Anybody can get a grand jury to sit down and say, yeah, let's indict these people. But are we going to follow through it? That's the actual problem.

It's easy to just bring indictments up. But guess what? The same thing with Comey and all that. We know what Comey said when he was going to 86 to president. But to say here and say he told people what he meant. They have witnesses. So it's different. You can say, you know, 86 seem and say, oh, I didn't mean it.

But when he told people what he meant, he got lied, now he's in trouble. Sure, what do you think about Todd Blanche? I mean, I want to believe, but I want to see the proof of the pudding here. Well, like I said, it's schizophrenic. So why is he still prosecuting Brian Cole Jr.? Covering up? I mean, he's part of that. in the entire DOJ, along with the FBI,

are framing of innocent man being held in solitary confinement, trying to coercion to plea bargain. Same thing was done to us as being done to Brian Cole Jr. To cover up the deep state inside job of the pipe bomber. Right. So I don't buy it. And the same thing goes with the lady I just interviewed today, earlier today on your show.

You know, why is Shana going to prison on Monday? She was prosecuted under the DOJ. And right now she's being sentenced. Tell the story for those I don't know. So she's a lady who was. fighting back against her son being transgendered as a teenager against her will, trying to save her son, took her to do a boys' school. They tried to get her to testify falsely against the guy that ran the boys' school.

She refused, went to trial, and they hammered her. In December of 2025, under Trump's nose, under Pan Bombing at the time, they went ahead and just prosecuted her. Sentenced in April of 2026. She's going to prison on Monday. Right now, Todd Blanche could do the exact same thing for her that he did for us, for myself, the oathkeepers, the proud boys. He could go ahead and ask the Court of Appeals in the Ninth Circuit to vacate her conviction.

And by the way, the son agrees with her now, right? Yeah, the son did not trans. Thank God. But of grace of God, he did not get transgender. She's a hero. So she's going to prison on Monday, and he could stop that right now. Todd Blanche could stop it. It's like he did with us.

He could do a motion to vacate. We know he knows about it? Of course he knows about it. Well, let's make sure he knows about it. I'm not defending him. I'm saying, yeah, exactly. So, you know, I'm not going to give him a pass on that. So, like I said, it's schizophrenic.

I don't know what's going on. I can't get inside his head. All I know is what I... Yeah, all I know is what I see. You still got an innocent woman going to prison for nothing, for being a mom. Same kind of lawfare that began under Biden. They were first indicted her under the Biden administration in 2021. They're still putting her in prison on Monday.

Why? Why did they put Shane Lamont in prison? Why'd that happen? A good, good guy cop. Why is it the cops that framed, even though they knew that, you know, the crackhead dad of fentanyl, why would they let him out of jail? Right. Yeah.

You know, in mathematics, there's an order of operations, right? You know, you pick the things you have to do in order. And right now, I feel like the DOJ has got their priorities all messed up. They need to understand there needs to be a order of operations. We need to get the stuff that are easy to just wipe out like that is something that we can easily be done with and knock away. But they're too busy trying to like fucking. do this stuff with these little small groups or these big conspiracy spiderwebs. There's a lot of things, a lot of people are being screwed over. It's public and nothing's

being done about it. And they need to get and put their foot down and do stuff. The people are speaking. They're saying this is what we want, but no one's listening. And I think that's something that happened the first time, you know, under Trump, the administration listened. But this time, it's like, I feel like we've all fallen on deaf ears. You know, We have a lot of things that we want taking care of, and we're talking about it, and they're not doing anything about it. It's like shooting fish at a barrel right now. We have so many people who we have. No, I agree.

What do you make of all the people on the Israeli payroll? We know it's $1.3 billion. We're not sure who's all on it. We see the talking points. Try to tell us not to complain at Trump. Where is constituents? We're supposed to talk about what we voted for. We're supposed to be vocal.

We're not in a Democrat cult. I don't mean to write myself into this. But, I mean, what do you make of, like, you know, Tim Poole came out and attacked me and then said he didn't attack me. Now he says he has proof I get money from a foreign government with no proof when he took Russian money and met with Netanyahu. And he says, I'm attacking him. He attacked me. I mean, it's just, that's just emblematic of this crap that's going on.

Well, Tim Pool's bald, and it makes it easier and naturally bald, not you. Like, you're choosing it as a, you know, a style. But Tim Pool's been bald since he was born. And it makes it easy for them to, like, shoot brainwaves and control him into his head. That's why he wears that stupid beanie all the time. So you can't really take him seriously. I think he's an idiot. He's always been an idiot as far as I'm concerned.

But, you know, we've got to focus on the important stuff. You know, and we, the people have been saying what we want to get fixed, what we need to be doing. Look at Eric Swalwell. The FBI raided his house today. They seize his electronics at the airport today. Okay. So what's going to happen? Like, I want to see Eric Swallow in jail.

He's the same, you know, politician. Yeah, he was begging for. Fang Fang and Chang over there in San Fran. You know, so everybody knows that this guy's been, you know, bought and paid for by another country for quite some time. You look at people like Randy Fine. This guy came out of nowhere, throws down some money and all of a sudden is now a congressman here in my district.

I don't know. He doesn't live here. I've never seen him before. You know, and we have these people that are being bought and paid for by APAC and all this other shit. It's just not right. You know, we need to get back to American. only politicians that have

America only agenda that are loyal to the Constitution, loyal to the American people. And I'm sick and tired of this crap. I mean, every time we turn around, we see a new Democrat that's, you know, committed this atrocious crime or done something or part of some

pedophile network and nothing happens. What do you make of the Republican head guy in Florida? Palm Beach. Yeah, who wrote the thing with fine to have that anti-free speech, Israel law, indicted for banging his grandson. I mean, this is sick.

I'm not surprised. Yeah. That's how they control them. They like pedophiles because pedophiles are easy to control. That's the bottom line. Well, here's the thing, though, weak people are easy to control. So what they do, they find candidates who are willing to put themselves out there, and they know they're weak, and then they blackmail them and then use it over them.

What people need to start doing is grabbing their balls and coming out and going, you know what, look, I'm going to run for Congress. I'm going to run for mayor. I'm going to run for, you know, whatever. And then do like I call like the eight-mile tactic in the movie with Eminem where he comes out and you know, he's got a rap battle against this black guy that knows all of his dirt. And instead of letting that guy come out after him and throw him under the bus, he comes out first and just spills the beans. That's what you have to do. If you want to be in office and you don't want to be blackmailed, you release it and you actually be honest.

And you go, look, I've done this before. I'm human. I've messed up. You know, I've, maybe when I was a kid, I stole this, or I cheated on a girlfriend at some time or whatever. But just be blatantly honest about stuff. People are going. You drunk drove or you did something like that.

You can't, these people with that is too far. Let me bring up another big issue. Go ahead, Sarja. No, I'm just saying people are too scared to put that stuff out there. But guess what? the American people are going to respect it because that's what they want. They want to see that you can be truthful and honest and especially like that. Well, it's like when the SPLC, Implrated one of our employees, our video guy, for a year

and a half, he got control of the security cameras that aren't in the building in our offices, but they're in the hallways and the entrances. And in a year and a half, all they have was me at midnight by myself in blue jeans with my shirt off with a bottle of vodka and a cigarette. Well, I already told everybody I have an alcohol issue before in like tobacco. So everybody thought it was a joke. They thought it was funny because I already, I already told him. It wasn't like I told him to get ahead of it.

I can't help but just be everything I do. And people don't care about that stuff. That's why they supported Trump. They don't care about his womanizing. I don't care about none of that. They cared about his promised to drain the swamp and take down the deep state. That's what really matters. And one thing I want to just want to piggyback on what Joe said earlier,

I think the only people you should support for office are people that approved up. Guys like Joe Kent, who stood up and said, you know, what it needed to be said. They got the Bonafetes. I like Tulsi Gabbard. Yeah, Massey, Tulsi Gabbard. Like I said, so I think Massey's. proved up, that's the only ones. You should be able to look back in your history.

Battle tested that they withstood the fire and came out through it with their integrity intact. Otherwise, don't support them. We don't have time. We got a lot of, the good thing about these wars, political wars, we got a lot of battle tested people now. Yeah. So like I said, like Joe, I support him

running for office. I know that he means it. And when he says I'm going to defend the Constitution and raises his right hand and be sworn in, he means it. He can't be bought. Right, he can't be bought. Can't be intimidated. That's what you want. Anybody else forget. That's why don't support J.D. Vance. I don't care what he's saying. What has he ever done? So what's he proved up under pressure? I don't trust him. Let's bring up some good news. It came out that Bill Gates's

daughter at Stanford was part of a secret society for world government enslaving humanity. These are the names of it. They call it rule or planetary governmental rules, the name of it. And it's all coming out that she's a master criminal like her father. I mean, this is stuff we would dream of. And you know how we know about it? A whole bunch of the members of the group. Students. Yeah, all that 12 in a year exposed it. I mean, that's what's got to worry them.

It wasn't surprised. I saw the same kind of crap at Yale Law School. They want a rule. They believe they're entitled to rule. It's the same mindset. A group's called rule. Go ahead, Jewel. Yeah.

It's like a collegiate bohemian grove. I mean, they're sitting there and they're prepping these children. It literally says how to brainwash and control for world government. But you know what the course is, though, is that's how stupid these kids are to get into this stuff. And they believe that they are learning to brainwash and control other people. What they are being is manipulated and brainwash themselves so that they can be themselves Pinocchio's and things like that. Exactly. Sociopathic.

We're going to watch. Yes. And you don't think that her dad knows that that's what's happening. Of course. He's willingly offering up his little lamb. to the elite, you know, and as long as they have a robot that's willing to be a yes man or yes, you know, sir, whatever it is, they're down, you know. Bill Gates is all about eugenics.

He's all about population control. He's all about, you know, what does this guy even have to do with, you know, vaccines? What's his background on that? I mean, this is a guy who built computers now all of a sudden because he's rich, he sits back, you know, behind the curtain, and he's pulling strings in Congo and all these other places, that that should concern people um but people go well you know he's you know he's doing something good don't know it they're not this is such a window though because i've told the story probably 800 times my dad at 14 top of his class in texas when winning the science fairs all that they come to school

and they say oh we got a test thing the certain few kids can take this we want you to be part of a feeder thing for nas started by Eisenhower Kennedy was there when my dad went to UT at 14 and he would never get into it all but once he saw endgame he told you me, no, they called me in once. I've been at UT for a few years when I'm like 16, and they say, no, we're setting up a world government, we're going to do all this. My dad said, I don't be part of this. And I told that story back in 2007 when he told me. But my point is, this is the exact model. This is what they're doing everywhere. Oh, yeah, I guess that I saw it at Yale.

Yeah, I mean, you were top of year. You won, like, awards. So what did you say? Same thing. I saw that, like, the first speech was given by the dean on the first day was this block, Yale University, is the most influential block in the world. We influence, put our tentacles out all over the world, and we're influential all over the world. They bragged about it. So they're seen as a focal point of power. And they bring kids in, and that's why I don't trust J.D. Vance.

I saw a lot of students like that. They're just ladder climbers. They're ambitious. They want power. And it turns out he went to Yale, too, right? Yes, he did. Yale law school. Because I remember there's a whole group set up by Israel,

not what you mean, just Israel over time. Israel set up with him, I think was Vivek, too, this Israeli operative group for future leaders in Yale. Yeah. So I'm not surprised. I mean, I went there because we figured in the Ron Paul office, I worked for Ron Paul.

I was like, I'm going to go to law school. And I said, well, why don't you just go to the best ones? Use their scepters of authority against them. Go to Harvard or go to Yale. And that way we can just say,

okay, fine. We'll go there and get the credentials, but we'll use it against them. But I saw it. Why was in law school? So you did with the left head. Yeah. It reminded me of the devil's advocate.

Remember the movie where the devil says, we're in the law because it's, It's everywhere. I said it was like going there. The evil that oozed out of those walls when I walked down in the hallway, I could feel it. Ambition, thirst for power, arrogance, hubris. They believe they were designed to rule, you know,

meant to rule, and they recruit kids in the small country. What's that, brother? Pride. I say, that's all about pride. What is our biggest downfall? What is the, what is the deadliest sin there is? The original sin. That's right.

And that's what the devil loves. He loves to find prideful people, men and women. people who think they're better than everything. Science, like modern science is human hubris. People thinking that they know better than God. What science should be is the proof that God exists, but what we've done is, you know, these, you know, pompous human beings is we try to use it to just prove God

and prove human superiority over God. And that's what the left loves. They love to find people who are stupid, but have that ambition and are prideful and love themselves and love the money. Yes. It's the unit party. Oh, yeah, it's all the same.

It's dominant on the left. And like Joe said earlier, these kids that go to these schools believe that, oh, I'm arrived, I'm going to be powerful, but they don't realize that they are being used too. Like Yale, they have students

from all over the world go there and they send them back out and now they get points of influence all over the world that use these people. They look at your social media before you even get accepted and they see, are you someone who fights back against the social norms? Are you someone who stands up and actually debates?

Are you someone that just sits there, coutes, tucks or tell between the legs? He goes, yes, okay, I believe what everyone else is saying. I'm going with... And here's a microcosm. My dad got out of it and then quietly never pushed me to what I did, was always educating me, and it just shows they don't have all the power.

And so my dad took what he learned from them and gave it to me to counter them. Good, yeah. Like, if I wanted to play the game, could have gone the same route, J.D. Vance did. I could have gone and worked for big business or work for in Washington, D.C., work for some Mealy-Mouth Republican like Romney or somebody like that. I'm a Ron Poller. I refuse to work for anyone. And stand here 1776, 2.5. Yeah. So I didn't, I could have by...

What do we call ourselves? I think America only is great. America is great. But it's 1776. We are America reborn. What do we call the movement? I'm a Christian nationalist and America only. That's where I'm at. Well, if you don't take care of, what is it? You like the VA? What's that mean me like VA? F me like the V. I can't really read. It means F me like the VA.

Oh, I got it. Yeah. All right. closing, guys. But Joe, you got your rights to store it, right? You got all your benefits back? Yeah, I'm about that, but they're still screw me on my back pay. You know, I was at 100% and I should have been getting about $300,000 and said they gave me a very, very finite amount.

But it's a good start. I mean, at least we're in the right direction. You're not in a solitary environment. Yeah, yeah, but still, though, you know. No, I'm not saying you shouldn't get what's yours. I'm not, yeah, you know, I'm not begging for something that, you know, I feel like I should be given. I'm asking for what I earned for. No, I totally agree with you.

I'm just saying we're moving in the right direction. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's not. You seem like you're in a lot better mood than you were a year ago when I was talking to. Well, yeah, I'm doing my own artwork now. I've got my own art websites going up. I'm painting and doing really good stuff. That's really good.

Can I see your weenie again? Yeah. Here's my ween. Let me see my ween. Where's my weenie? Yeah. So, little Molly. Here she goes.

Oh, sweet. That dog's getting extremely spoiled. Oh, yeah, definitely. That's a right-wing Hitler dog, right? That's terrorist. Just stop. starving the animal. Starving the animal.

Starving, look at that top belly on it. No, I know. That was the joke. The dog is obese. Oh, no, I love them. Oh, I want that little... Okay, TMI. What, I love squeezing little doggy's bellies. Or T.M.I want to squeeze the dog's belly?

Son of her. Want to squeeze the wiener? I don't want to squeeze the wiener. That dog's a girl. He doesn't have a wiener. I want to squeeze it. It's a weird dog. Don't you get it?

No, I get it. Now, there I am. I'm not even a cat guy, but my kids looked up the smartest cat. And when they literally had me in bankruptcy three years ago, look how fat I am there about 70 pounds? They literally said, how much is your cat? What they tried to take the cat? That looks like a freaking mountain lion. What the hell is that thing?

It's a ragdolls. It's really sweet cat. That's Mooshu. See, I just said Barack Obama, and she flips out whenever I say something like that, she can't stand there. She hates Liptards. Barack Obama. If we go out in public or whatever and she'll sniff and then I'll know it's like a Democrat because I already know everybody here's a small town.

I'm like, yeah, she knows. It's like it's already in her DNA. She smelled and she goes, oh, my God, these people are retarded. Get me away from here. Joe, how do people find you? How do they follow the work you're doing? Oh, yeah. Speaking of that, guess what?

September was it 26, right? September 26? Yeah, West Palm Beach. We have our red carpet event. We are releasing our documents. The five of us was a documentary we made down in Miami through the Gateway Pundit. It's going to be at the Kravish Center. And I have a link that I can send you guys for ticket sales.

But, yeah, we have a documentary that goes over the trial. Rudy Giuliani is going to be there. Sidney Powell, all kinds of people are going to be there. I'll have you on back about that. But just tell you, you know, the name of the event or the website or just find, you have a website? No, I don't have anything. I get banned more than anybody. You know, anytime I make an account on X, I get banned within, like, you know, a day or so. You too.

Because all these live on X. Yeah. So all I got now is Facebook. America is a lower-level, people. That's the cover for our book. We have a book that's coming out as well. Well, do you have a MySpace or they even let you on that? Oh, and they still have that?

The joke. Well, I actually heard this. they were going to bring it back. Yeah, they are. But what I'm saying is, can they email you? Are you your tilled sildy person? Yeah, I mean, you can email me if you want Joe Biggs 525 at gmail.com. So, you know, send it out.

Let's go. I'll be back on that. Yeah. Yeah. Damn it, you tricked me, dude. No, I'm just thinking of it now. I've gone through it myself. And, Stuart, how do people support what you're doing?

Yeah, they can go to oathkeepers. It's our new website for oathkeepers. I'm rebuilding the organization what the bad guys want. just for us to die away. We're coming back. And they can also go to Givesendgo.com forward slash oath. They want to support the rebuild.

Not a better place to support with what you're doing. Give it out again. You bet. So Oathkeepers. Dot Info is a new website, and you can support the rebuild of oathkeepers at Givesendgo.com forward slash oath.

You guys went to all the riots, picking thousands of businesses, and such great work. I'm the proud boys also. That's right. Like Joe said, we're boots on the ground. Myself, Enrique Atario,

We defended Alex Stein in the streets of Dallas a few months back, and all the lefties has lost her mind. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to being boots on the ground again, and I'm happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with these guys. So, hey, brother, God bless you, bud. Hey, man, I love you, dude, and I'm glad that you finally, you know, got your stuff dropped, you know. It was weird.

I couldn't believe that Judge Kelly actually made a decision before META. Oh, yeah. That blew my mind. He's never done anything on it. He was such a pussy. Well, Mehta is the designated hitter. That's the lawsuits that we're still part of are in front of meta. So, yeah, he was really upset about having those dispos.

And like we were saying earlier, that one chick with the SPLC, she's the one that was behind, like, the expert on us to help to give us indicted. She was the expert on my showtrial. She haunted at all. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and our civil cases. Did you know they're hooked in the NATO foreign funding, like 30 years? Like, you know, the CIA does it with the foreign country to do it.

It's like, people go, oh, the government went after you was SPLC. No, that's the government cutout. Right. I know you ought to show that work. And that's kind of the bad part about what happened when they dismissed our cases and vacated. They did not admit any wrongdoing. If they really wanted to help President Trump, they should say, okay, President Trump is a co-defendant with oathkeepers and proud boys in these civil cases against him.

They could have given us gifts and given him a gift of like, hey, here's all the bad stuff that was done by the Biden administration in these prosecutions. That would have helped us on the civil side. That's why I don't trust Blanche. Yeah, we're not naive. We're just tracking this as it unfolds. You can find us at Rolloctions on X. Alex Jones Live.com, the bad guys have worked overtime.

To try to take us down, we're still here. Great job with the crew. Some of them working since like 8 o'clock this morning. Lord willing, I'll be back tomorrow, 11 a.m. Central. And, of course, Harrison Smith with the war room, 3 p.m. Central. Are you showing your waning again? You're showing his guns. Oh, we'll see the guns.

Showing the guns. All right. But look, hey, guess what? Send me that money, Blanche. We need to win this lawsuit. I need about 50 mil. and I'll go away for a while. Not really because I'm still going to be a bigger thorn in everyone's ass.

Amen. But we're going to use that money to help people out and do something good and help unite this country. Instead of just blow money on scenes we could turn mice and the transgender penguins, we're actually going to use that money to back for real candidates. For shrimp on treadmills. Can you guys pull up 15 million shrimp on treadmill study? I'm not kidding.

I used to run this for decades. I don't know if you can find it. Maybe it's on X, maybe on YouTube. 15 or 14 million for shrimp on treadmills. They didn't even say. They're all got. How did you find fruit? All right.

Now I'm impressed. Rob Agueros just found shrimp on treadmills. Look at that. Do we have a neurolink chip or something? Sean upstairs. How did you guys find shrimp on treadmills in two seconds? Did you just see that? That's amazing.

Yeah. You got a top-notch crew. I haven't asked for that in like 10 years. How did you, how did you find shrimp on tread on treadmills in 2.5 seconds? You read your mind. Huh? We're all one. Yeah.

No, no, no. Pretty impressed. That's awesome. Go back to that. Imagine they'll take an old lady's house if she doesn't a pair of taxes on money, but they'll pay $14, $15,000, whatever the headline was, for shrimp on treadmill. Of course. Yeah.

Yeah, wait until they inject it with COVID and then turn it to zombies. The next thing you know, they're running all over it and injecting us with fucking mercury and stuff. We're all like, yeah. Fouchy $20 million to cut larynxes out of beagles and put worms on them to eat them. I mean, what, what, you know. Right. Oh, yeah. Hey.

they're putting your face, right? Let you know how bad they really are. Well, it's the test if you'll do it. Well, that's it. My dad was in that program. That was what they had them doing. It was just like, he figured it out. It was as he said.

Can I let me say something about that guy that's doing, that's like hosting your show now, the comedian guy? Can I say something about that? Well, let me, since you do that, let me give a brief update. So the onion is owned by Bloomberg and the Everytown Group. That's on record.

And they announce. three years ago, they won a bid together, or two and a half years ago, they got the company. They didn't. They announced they owned it again. They didn't. The judge ordered us out of the building. We could have challenged her if we'd put me in jail. So we said, fine.

We'll give me what you want because I keep saying, we're fighting. We're fighting. No one believed it was real. So finally, the local communist and Soros judge said, get out. Give us an order. I won't get me in contempt. You locked me up for up to six months here in Travis County. Right.

So I said, fine. We already got a backup studio. Other owners. It's fine. We've sued them. Much has happened. You'll see big stuff soon. We just got to, I'm not going to leave it at that.

But it didn't go well for them. They've already shut down their whole deal. And it was like they announced, they actually follow me on the street. It's real video of me and the Austin. Then they show my head blow off that part's fake. All sorts of threats, all sorts of weirdness. And then announcing they're us. But all they're getting is their asses suit off.

They've already figured that out. It's already happened. The news doesn't cover it. So then my lawyers are like, just shut your mouth. That's what we keep winning. But there's a lot of announcements coming soon. But yeah, go ahead and talk about Bloomberg and the Onion. Yeah, this Heideker guy, man.

It's a horrible impersonation, first of all. I mean, I tried to watch one of the skits the other day, and it was atrocious, like my stomach hurt. I mean, it was just ridiculous. And then I looked at the views, and then I read the comments, and I was like, how can they continue to go and let no one likes it? Like, people on the left only think it's funny. I mean, I could get a picture of my little wiener doing a funny dance,

and I'm talking about Molly, my dog. Her Instagram page is going to get more views than Tim Heideker's fake onion, you know, InfoWords show. And his impersonation and he just sucks. He doesn't, he's not funny.

He's not clever. This is like someone grasping at straw is trying to like, they're trying to make fun of you so bad that they've just completely missed the point and missed the mark. You know,

but I did watch, I'm rewatching Homeland and I'm like on season six and they've got that guy, his name's something O'Keefe, but it's your studio basically. And the guy that was based on me.

And in the movie, I only read the synopsis, I supposedly give up when they come after me. Well, I didn't happen. Yeah. So, you know, it's like they try to attack us in every way they can. They do South Park on us. You know, they do S&L schizabeth about us. I had the guy Tom Crosinski from the office who's married to Emily Blunt.

He tried to portray me on S&L, you know, and they're not funny. I mean, the left is absolutely corny. They're unoriginal. Hollywood's felling, you know. and they hate that we are so in tune with pop culture and look what the American people want. No, I agree, but it's really a threat to get me really on the street of Austin, then cut in A.I. My head blowing off. It's like, Alex Jones is dead. His head's blown off. And they think that, like, threatens me. It's just like, dude.

I've seen how it works here in the studio. You know, I work there. We all know that. You know, and I see how we take an idea. We see something to happen in real time in the news. And within 10 to 15 minutes, we have a skit that's so hilarious and so informative that I'd be in the backpack. They're crying, rolling. Like, it was so good. These guys, they probably sit there for months on in trying to put out like a one-minute video, and it completely takes and bombs. You know, they're just not in touch with reality. They don't understand.

They're so consumed by hate and anger. And they've just completely missed what it means to be human, to be alive, to love life, to treasure and cherish things. Yeah. Yeah. Well, wearing something skin is not being it. I can put a tiger's pelt on or grizzly bear. I ain't a grizzly bear. Exactly right.

So they're unoriginal and cheap. I'm not even giving them attention because they totally imploded. And plus they're getting their ass to suit off. Only because of the listeners support. That's what we're so. People thank me. I say thank you for getting me in the fight. All right, Stuart Rhodes.

God bless you. God bless in Rick Ontario earlier. good like a little baby now in Poland and of course the great Joe Biggs Joe we love you you got to get back on sooner like six months goes by what you guys on every week like hey get them on you guys need to start calling me and saying

get on the show because I mean like a year will go by I had a caller call on video go ahead well I've been texting you a bunch but I don't know if you have a new number or whatever like that and I'll usually text you with ideas and stuff but I don't know sometimes I know we get numbers changed and things like that so somebody I need to get a new phone because I learn people get blocked all the time. Really important people.

So I bet you're blocked, and somebody does that. I got to get a new phone. I thought me getting your text, Joe. Yeah. Well, you know, I want to come back and do a show too, man. I think it would be good to have, you know, Stuart, myself. We want it. We're going to get back with bigger studios.

It's close. And we plan to just crank the mother, we're going 20 hours a day is my goal, at least 19, 5 a.m. to midnight. And we're going to blast this son of a bitch off. Between the three of us, between Areke and Stewart and I, I mean, we have enough material in the last years. I mean, the things that we've gone through and seen and the ends and outs and stuff, the contacts we've made within the government, you know, with, you know, these different groups. No, I agree. You guys need to do a show, but I want to 10% to be about not putting down your story.

Yeah, we want to not about things. I don't. I want your analysis of things happening because you're smart. No, no, that's what I want to do. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want to do, yeah. But I just want to take that knowledge we have. We use that to help.

You know, like, and this is why I tell people about you. They go, how was Alex in real life? What is he like? And I go, dude, I said, what you see is what you get. He's very high, energetic he is like that on the screen, on camera, off camera. I said, but we have to understand about him. He's not someone who just, you know, is giving your opinion or giving an opinion on something. He's actually been reading books for years.

And that's what you have to do. You really have to be in love with this. You have to love history. and when you read history and you understand the history, you can see the patterns. And from those patterns, you can make pretty spot-on predictions about what's going to happen in the future. And I think that's something that you've been really successful in doing as being a student of history and being humble about that and learning as much as you can day in and day out and not giving up and not stopping, continuing to read. And that's something I did.

When I got to jail, I go, you know, I've got to do like Alex and I read, read, read, I've read over a thousand books now. and I still have books coming in the mail, and I'm reading them, you know, as much as I can. You know, so I think that's what you take your personal experiences, you take your knowledge of our history and our culture and the culture and history of the world, and you use those informed, you know, that knowledge you have to make an informed, you know, decision and or, you know, hypothesis on what's happening or what's going to happen. And I believe that the three of us have that ability because we're all students of history like you. And we've all been targeted by the globalist, which means we're over the target. God bless you. Joe Biggs, I love you. I appreciate you.

And you guys are brothers forever. Hello, brother. Thank you so much. And great job to the crew. Go get some sleep because we're back at 8 a.m. God bless you all. Share the live feed. Share the clips out of the show.

Great job with the whole crew. We love you. And whatever happens, the SPLC, publicly they've gone down. They're indicted. They're getting indicted. More indictments coming. So at least we're getting that. And that's the consolation prize.

God bless you all.