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Hot knife. Are you suggesting this is a knife I have in my hand?
Have you gone mad, my sane husband? There was a knife, but I lost it.
Isn't it fascinating how the timing always lines up like a rigged game of dominoes?
Just as the Epstein files start spilling out their filthy secrets, names, dates, and depraved dealings that could topple empires?
There are code words that suggest Jeffrey Epstein and his associates could maybe even be engaging in some sort of consumption.
Is that human consumption?
The media machine cranks into overdrive with blatant distractions and a minimization press.
That bomb squad vehicle just pulled back in, but the two SWAT vehicles and the mobile command center are still out there somewhere.
We were made aware of a location that they might be.
traveling to. Election fraud gets criminally exposed in broad daylight with whistleblowers and
evidence piling up like unpaid bills. Normally you would expect to see a smooth curve going up,
not any big spikes. That's kind of what Greg was talking about, the anomalies of loading
and uploading those votes. So that big spike that occurs there is a prime indicator of
fraudulent voting.
And that's 604,000 votes in 90 minutes.
Is that right?
Correct.
Smartmatic has its office in Caracas,
and it's co-located with the Concejo National Electoral,
the National Electoral Commission.
And there's 150 Smartmatic engineers and 150 C&E engineers side by side.
And they have two missions.
Number one, steal elections.
Number two, defeat audit.
study audit.
How do different states and different localities conduct audit so that when they're audited, you defeat audit?
And suddenly the SAVE Act, that beacon of voter integrity, born of common sense, loses steam, thanks to spineless politicians on both sides of the Uniparty aisle, playing footsy with the deep state.
The SAVE Act is expected to be brought to the floor for a vote this week.
What are your thoughts on that?
Are you going to support the SAVAC?
Not at all.
It's a terrible idea.
This notion that we want to put more obstacles in the paths of voters is just what Donald Trump wants.
Fewer people voting.
I want every legal citizen in America to be able to vote without obstacles.
Do you think it requiring an ID to vote in elections is making it harder?
I mean, it's more than that.
It's more than an ID.
It's proof that you were born in America.
So what are we talking about, a passport or a birth certificate?
Got one of those handy with you in your purse?
I doubt it.
But no.
can't have the masses focusing on the actions of our overlords.
Instead, it's wall-to-wall coverage of the Savannah Guthrie kidnapping saga on Fox News
and every other propaganda puppet show with regurgitated monotony.
But at least we at InfoWars can talk about the sheer volume of dirt they're burying under this avalanche of sensationalism.
Listen to me, because this isn't a reality TV show, that this is entertainment.
if this is handled wrong, we will have the gray reset, and you'll be lucky if you're eating
bugs, you'll probably be dead. And of course, now it's come out, Lex Wexner, as I told you,
15 years ago, was the CIA Mossade, MI6, mega spy chief running Epstein for George Herbert
Walker Bush and Bill Barr, put him on the trilateral commission when he's 30 years old,
on the commission, not just a sub-commission.
The trilateral commission is some spooky stuff.
People said it was some of the people that, the Illuminati, there's some mystery about it, people that ran the world.
It was politicians, but David said most countries, the politicians get elected for four years or eight years.
Separate from the royal families in England or in the Middle East, someone's there for four years and they're not there anymore.
The most important people to have stability and consistency would be businessmen.
So he formed this trilateral commission of businessmen and politicians from three major continents.
So it was the North Americans, the Europeans, and the Asians.
So he said to me, would you like to be on the trilateral commission?
I was 30 years old.
That's because they have to have a guy trained and ready.
There's doing the job.
It will do exactly as they should say.
Meanwhile, the propaganda outlets aren't just non-reporting.
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Good and gentlemen to the Alex Jones show, I'm your host
Harrison Smith. Sitting in for Alex today,
we've got a lot of great guests
coming up. Mike Lindell, Joey
Pepperoni's going to explain to us some of what's
been revealed in the Epstein files. That, of course,
is going to be probably the main topic
of conversation today. As it continues,
to dominate the headlines and we continue to get a lot of information out of the files released
last Friday, the 3 million.
As we speak, Pam Bondi is being grilled in the Congress and Senate.
I want to go to some of those videos here first.
We also have some around the world of terrorism to discuss from the usual suspects, I guess you
could say, a 13-year-old stabbing his classmates in the UK while yelling Alahu Akbar,
as well as a mass murder in Canada by a transgender individual on handfuls of SSRIs.
So we'll talk about that as well.
We're going to be joined by Mike Lindell and Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen.
Talk about the devastating effects that Trump's failure to move on Epstein is having with his poll numbers and his support and what that means for the midterms.
It's not looking good, folks.
And again, we've got just a ton of new information.
A lot of it positive for Trump, which is weird because he still seems to be avoiding this topic like the plague.
It's very weird.
It's very bizarre.
It's very inexplicable, although I think I have some suggestions as to what might be behind some of this.
But let's go to some of these clips from Pam Bondi, where she's being asked about the Epstein files.
It got a little contentious, not in a good way.
And this is truly a bizarre situation to be in, not to beat a dead horse or anything.
But I do just want to remind you, again, that the Democrats have spent the last decade downplaying the entire concept of elite pedophilia.
So then to see them standing on a pedestal and questioning Pam Bondi about Jeffrey Epstein,
like they're the ones that care about this.
It's just disingenuous enough to make you sick.
But let's go to some of these clips from Pambon.
Let's go to clip 44 here.
A.G. Pambondi just revealed a massive win.
Let's watch.
The Department of Justice is committed to holding criminals accountable
to the fullest extent of the law.
In 2025, the FBI arrested over 1,700 child predators.
a 10% increase from 2024.
We also located 2,700 victims of child exploitation and shut down 3.8 million dark web pedophile accounts.
3.8 million.
So please, if you have information to share that needs to be investigated, contact the FBI.
Okay, not bad. Not a bad start. And of course, she's right. And even Axios and other liberal publications have to admit it. Violent crime plummets across major U.S. cities was their headline today from Axios. And it's actually funny. The original tweet I clicked on the original headline was like, you know, despite Trump's rhetoric, murder rate, violent crime has plummeted over the last year. And it's like, what do you mean despite Trump's rhetoric? No, this is because of Trump's rhetoric, actually. No, this is actually directly in line with Trump's rhetoric.
rhetoric, what are you talking about?
But essentially, they're trying to say that, you know, all this talk about violent crime is overblown because look how much it's going down.
It's like, no, it's going down like that because Trump has made it a priority, obviously.
Violent crime dropped sharply across America's biggest cities in 2025, according to new data reviewed by Axios.
The stats were yet another sign that violent crime in the U.S. was starkly different than what President Trump cited as his reason for sending federal troops to Chicago, Portland, Washington, D.C., Memphis, and other cities in California.
Yeah, wrap your mind around the liberal worldview.
It is just utter madness, pure, unrelenting madness.
It just doesn't make any sense.
So it's an article about how these programs have caused a precipitous drop in violent crimes,
but the way they're presenting it as if the drop in crimes,
therefore discredits the reason that the program was instituted in the first place.
I think they might be dumb.
I think these people might just be very dumb or they're lying, but either way.
Screw them.
But that's about the best that Bondi did, old AG Pam Bondi, in this hearing.
And it turned into a shrieking match for a lot of it.
Kind of embarrassing, if you ask me, even though the people that she's yelling at are literally the worst people in the world.
Okay.
I'm talking Jerry Nadler.
Talking Ratcliffe.
What's that guy's that guy's name?
he looks like a rat rat skin is that his name his name is rat skin raskin okay raskin rat skin maybe more
appropriate i'm kidding of course yes jamy raskin we know we know old jamie he looks like a
badly used steel wool uh sponge let's go to clip number 43 here i just i almost hesitate to like go into
cliffs because they're very annoying. And it just, it's just another sign of our collapse that
we can't have a congressional or Senate hearing without it just descending into cursing
and name-calling and screeching at each other. It's very embarrassing. Here's A.G. Pam Bondi
with what they call a generational takedown of insufferable rep Jerry Nadler. Let's watch.
The president saying they indicted me twice. They sure did. They tried to impeach him twice.
and you, Mr. Nadler, were one of the leads on the impeachment.
I was on the other side. I lived that with you.
During impeachment, you said the president conspired sought foreign interference in the 2016 election.
Robert Mueller found no evidence, none of foreign interference in 2016.
Have you apologized to President Trump?
Have you apologized to President Trump, all of you who participated in those impeachment hearings against Donald Trump?
You all should be apologizing.
You sit here and you attack the president, and I am not going to have it.
I'm not going to put up with it.
You know, all they want to do, all the American people need to know this.
They are talking about Epstein today.
This has been around since the Obama administration.
This administration released over 3 million pages of documents, over 3 million.
And Donald Trump signed that law to release.
all of those documents.
He is the most transparent
president in the
nation's history.
So again, you know, she's
like got this like fire and brimstone
act going on. And listen,
don't get me wrong. Jerry Nadler
deserves every insult ever thrown at him
not defending Jerry Nadler
in the slightest. She's right about the
ridiculous attempts to
impeach President Trump and all this.
She's exactly right about that.
It's just, I get a sense of the
Lady doth protest too much, just a bit of the outrage, the seeming righteous indignation.
It's just a little misplaced because, lady, you're a complete and utter failure.
I hate to let you know.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but for the last year, you have presided over a giant pot
of absolutely nothing.
You have achieved absolutely nothing.
You have arrested absolutely none of the rampant criminals that still hold positions in our
government in some case.
You couldn't get the Comey indictment.
You didn't get indictments of anybody in Russia,
despite the fact that we've known for the last decade at this point
that these people flagrantly violated any number of laws.
They couldn't even get a grand jury indictment of the seditious six,
which we'll get into in a little bit,
because I think that's a whole other kettle of worms and problems and issues.
But it's like it's a little bit too much,
because at the same time that she's, you know,
talking about how we've released the files,
we're doing everything just right.
The White House continues
to completely stonewall
any examination of the files.
Let's go to clip number 63 here.
This is White House spokeswoman
Caroline Levitt yesterday
when she's asked about the Epstein files.
Let's watch.
And that remains true.
In this call, if it did happen,
corroborates exactly what President Trump
has said from the beginning.
And I'm sure many of you, when you read that
alleged FBI report,
probably thought to yourself, wow, this really cracks our narrative that we've been trying to push
about this president for many years. So we're moving on from that. Reagan.
We're moving on. We're moving on from it because it doesn't indict Trump. This is the weird thing.
It's like the Trump administration is like, okay, if it did indict Trump, would we be looking at it?
Because so far, as I've seen, nothing in this indicts Trump. It indicts a lot of people around him.
It indicts Howard Lutnik, sort of Trump's control.
at this point and indicts Marco Rubio
to a large degree, and indites a lot of
the people in very close proximity
to President Trump, but it
actually exonerates Trump to
a large degree.
And yeah, Pam Bondi has her sticky
myths all over this. I mean, she was involved in the
first Epstein
I don't even want to call it
conviction, where they pretended to
convict him, and they said, okay, you got to go to jail,
but only on the weekends, and we'll give you a ride.
It's just ridiculous, but she was involved
in that from the very beginning. And she's
involved in a lot of these things. Now, just not to, you know, go off the rails here, but I do
want to remind you that Matt Gates was very much in favor of releasing the Epstein files. Matt
Gates, if he was attorney general, we probably would have had the Epstein files a year ago,
and we would have had convictions to go along with it. But unfortunately, he was suckered into a
honeypot blackmail operation from an Israeli. Wait a second. Wait a second. I think.
I think I'm seeing a connection here. Matt Gates is not our attorney general because he was subject to an Israeli sexual underage blackmail operation. And so we're not able to expose the documents about the worldwide is really blackmail sex, underage sex operation. That's very convenient. It sort of solves its own issues in a way. Isn't that interesting? So I don't know anybody. Literally nobody except for people being paid to. I don't know.
anybody that likes Pam Bondi. I don't know anybody that thinks she's doing a good job. I don't know
anybody that likes her at all. Like, she just sucks. She just really actually is terrible at her
job or in on it. But she's not even good at that. Like, at least somebody who was good at their
job would, like, give the impression that they're finding. But she's not, she doesn't even do that.
So she's not even good at not being good at her job. Does that make sense? Like Merrick Garland,
Alhander Ayurcas, they were really good at not being good at their job.
They opened up the border, but every time you heard them talk, it sounded like they were very serious and nose to the grindstone and we're getting things done and we're doing things by the book.
Meanwhile, Pam Bondi doing absolutely nothing and shrieking and yelling and yelling and screeching and calling people names.
It's just pathetic.
It honestly is pathetic.
Do you want to go to some of the screeching, shall we?
Shall we hear some of the screeching that our national government has descended into?
Let's go to clip 47 here because this one is one of the ones that's going around and people going, what the hell is happening here?
why is Pam Bondi screeching about the stock market when she's asked a simple question about Epstein?
But I actually don't think it's that out of, like off the wall or out of left field.
I think actually the answer she gives is actually an answer to the questions she's asked, believe it or not.
So here's Pam Bondi when she's asked about what's going on with Epstein.
She goes into a shrieking tirade about the Dow Jones Index.
Let's watch.
The Dow is over 50.
thousand right now. The S&P at almost 7,000 and the NASDAQ smashing records. Americans 401ks and
retirement savings are booming. That's what we should be talking about. We should be talking about
making Americans safe. We should be talking about what does a Dow have to do with anything?
That's what they just asked. Are you kidding? Mr. Jordan. Committee will be in order.
Mr. Jordan, am I going to get an extra 45 seconds added to my time?
The committee will be in order. The time belongs to the gentleman from Texas.
She kind of pulled a AIDS scrylix there.
Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
What does the Dow Jones have to do with Jeffrey Epstein and his co-conspirators?
Probably more than you'd like to think.
Again, she's asked about Jeffrey Epstein, what's going on with that?
Are you going to indict any of the co-conspirators that are revealed in these documents?
documents, and her answer is, guys, the Dow Jones is in 50,000. Now, that seems crazy. That seems
off the wall. It's why people are laughing, why she's freaking out. But let's just put this in
like familial context. Okay? This is, you know, the wife going to the husband and going,
what are you going to do about our daughter being raped? Our daughter was raped. What are you going
to do about it? And the husband being like, look, I'm not worried about that. I'm making so much
money right now. My job is so good. I make so much money. Now, that conversation would make no
sense until you realize the daughter was raped by the boss. Then it all comes full circle.
Then you understand, oh, okay. See, the Dow Jones being this high is because the people that were
associated with Jeffrey Epstein haven't been threatened with arrest, and so they haven't crashed the
market in response yet. See, I think that might be what she's saying. I don't know if that's how she
meant it, that's how it came across to me, is you want us to go after these Jeffrey Epstein people?
Do you want to lose your retirement accounts to do it? Are you willing to crash the world economy
and drive us into total depression to do that? Because that's what's going to happen, because
the people in the Epstein files are the most wealthy and powerful people in our country. So,
if they go down, guess what they take with them, the economy. Now, that's not actually true.
You could actually systematically round these guys up, go to them individually.
person to person and go, look, you're going down for this, but you can help us to transfer your
wealth, transfer your assets, help us to understand, you know, the consequence of you going down,
and then we'll make it easy for you. You can, you know, have you be help. You can be a hero in this.
You can actually be somebody that was willing to sacrifice all of their wealth and all of their
influence to tell the truth. And in return, maybe you go to like a nice camp instead of a prison complex.
You can work with them.
You could actually do that.
You could actually systematically take these guys down and capture their wealth through the government.
Like we have inordinate ability to do that with the American government.
They can do anything they want if they put their mind to it.
So the whole concept, they're like, oh, if we expose the criminals, the economy crashes.
And we can't do that is a ridiculous excuse in the first place.
But I'm pretty sure that's the excuse she was making right there.
I don't know.
But it seems to me like when she's asked, why,
aren't you taking down the Jeffrey Epstein co-conspirators? And her response is, have you seen how
the stock market is? I don't think these are not related. I think they're very well related,
actually. I think that's actually the argument that's being made inside the halls of power.
We can't go after these guys. If we do, it'll ruin all of the incredible progress we've made.
Giving the rapist money. Okay. I mean, again, the Dow Jones, the stock market is not actually
reflective of the conditions of life in America and as American life has degraded precipitously
like gone down, well, you don't go down a cliff, do you go off of one?
As we have tumbled down the slope of quality of life over the last several decades, our stock
market has risen in almost perfect proportions. So I don't actually care about what the stock market
says. It seems to be reflective of something completely different than the quality of life.
an economic outlook of the average American person.
So who cares, but these people do.
It's going to clip 48 here.
This is Bondi again, going tit for tat, sharing blows with Jerry Nadler, the goblin.
Let's go to clip 48 here, where she calls him a washed up lawyer.
Let's watch.
You can let her filibuster all day long, but not on our watch.
Not on our time.
No way.
And I told you about that, Attorney General, before you started.
Tell me anything.
Now, I did tell you because we saw what you did in the Senate.
Not even a lawyer.
Middy will be in order.
I mean, I should get back at least 45 seconds.
We will give you a few more seconds.
I said that already.
45 seconds.
Okay.
Like, it would be one thing if any of this was even remotely legitimate.
Like, the whole thing is absurd because these people are shouting and yelling and demanding
answers and acting with righteous indignation about something that they deliberately went out of their way to cover up.
for an entire decade.
So their outrage isn't legitimate.
Her outrage isn't legitimate.
It's just a giant joke.
This is a gigantic play-acting scam where everybody has completely switched sides from
where they were a year ago and yet are, you know, yelling and screaming with exactly
the same vociferousness that they were previously.
The whole thing is ridiculous and absurd and has become a gigantic circus.
And it's all nonsense.
Like I've been saying for a long time, the comparison between Pam Bondi and somebody like
Merrick Garland is not just because Merrick Garland knew how to play the game, knew how to present
himself like a consummate professional, but like in a lot of ways, he was that consummate professional,
and he did just do things behind the scenes. Pam Bondi will go out and give talks and appear
on Fox News and, you know, waver papers around and act like she's getting to the bottom of it.
She talks very tough. And then at the end of the day, absolutely nothing comes from it. On the other hand,
what we actually need, the inversion of that and what would save the country would be a Merrick Garland-type figure,
who just is quiet in the background, plugging away, getting indictments, getting arrests done,
not talking about it very much, occasionally coming out and making a speech about how everything
he's doing is perfectly by the book and under the letter of the law and not in any way guided
by partisanship.
And then you just arrest all the Republicans and, you know, act like it's business as usual.
Like, that's actually what we need.
We actually need a hyper-competent nerd to just be rounding these people up.
Instead, we have some bimbo who's totally incompetent and flare.
and desperately trying to cover that up.
I'm sorry if this is offensive to anybody,
but this is kind of the fate of our nation
and in a way the fate of the world in the balance here.
Like what happens in the next year or so
is going to determine the actual fate of the entire United States
and if we lose the midterms, that's it for us as a country
and we're going to have to start making some very,
very difficult choices about the future of our population.
So, like, this is not a game.
This is not something where you can go, well, she's trying her best.
Or, well, you know, let's just wait and see.
You know, I don't think she's doing much.
But who knows?
It could turn around.
It's like, no, we don't have time for that.
And frankly, we're not going to wait for that.
And I think now, like at this point, we might need to take what some people are already doing
and up at another level.
We showed you the video on the War Room earlier this week.
Just a single woman found a name in the Epstein files.
It turned out it was a professor.
at a college near where she lived.
So she took it upon herself, made a sign,
went stood out in front of the university,
waving a sign saying this dude's a pedophile,
he should be fired.
And eventually the dean of the college came down and said,
listen, we know about this.
The guy's been fired.
He's been let go.
He's not going to be renewed for his, you know, whatever.
And she succeeded in getting that guy fired.
Now that is, on one hand, great that somebody had the,
you know, tenacity to go out and do that.
the will to go out and make a change like that.
Also utterly pathetic that that's what it takes and that it was a single person and not a giant
crowd.
Now we're seeing more people.
Now we're seeing crowds gather outside of places like Les Wexner's home.
And frankly, we don't need an investigation.
We don't need a trial.
We don't need court cases.
We have it all in their own words.
It's the same thing as Rushagate or any of the other stuff that we've, any of the other
scams that we've suffered under.
the last 10 years. They keep announcing investigations like, there's something to find out.
No, when they're on text messages saying, this is our insurance plan, we're not going to ever let Trump
get elected, and then they run the Russia Gate conspiracy. Like, that's guilty. He's guilty.
The only thing now to do is to decide which law they broke and what the punishment should be.
It's not a question of if they broke a law. It's a question of if they deserve life in prison or
immediate death. I mean, that should be where we're at at this point.
I don't know how much longer we're going to wait for Pam Bondi to get her act together.
And I think that needs to be the message that we send is like, look, we want you to do this.
We don't have to.
We don't have to wait for you to do it, but you probably should.
It would be a lot better and healthier for the country if the lawful authorities did this.
But it doesn't have to be them.
I mean, it can be anybody.
So I don't know.
I don't know where we go from here, but it's entirely up to Pam Bondi and Donald Trump.
and the Epstein friends that he's surrounded by as to which path this takes into the future.
When we come back on the other side, we're going to go to a report from Alex Jones
and get in some more videos.
We'll move on from Pam Bondi.
Stay with us, folks.
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Somalia's electoral authorities have started issuing voter ID cards across Mogadishu
as the capital prepares for its first direct municipal council elections in decades under a one-person, one-vote system.
Golly.
Out of over 170 nations that hold elections, the United States is one of only a few that don't have voter ID.
Only a few backwater failed states who aren't even countries don't have voter ID.
And then, of course, the United States.
And the few places Kamala Harris won in 2024 were places that didn't have it.
California has a law that you can't even ask for it.
Well, Somalia just passed its national voter.
and it's now using it in their elections.
So you need it to buy alcohol or cigarettes to get on an airplane,
but not when you vote.
This is systemic fraud that's baked in.
And now you have the SAVE Act that's been shot down
by the Republican leadership, Senator Thune.
This is a real disaster for our country.
They have been stealing elections for a long time.
They will continue until we have a voter ID
and until the criminals that have been caught stealing elections all over the country,
are brought to justice.
That's the reality.
The agenda of Trump,
when it comes to election integrity,
is the standard
that the State Department applies to the rest of the world.
And according to the State Department's own guidelines
for open free elections,
we rate as an F-minus.
That is the reality, ladies and gentlemen.
You're supposed to be able to question elections.
You're supposed to have voter ID,
supposed to have a counter the local precinct level.
All of these things are bypassed now,
and the fraud just gets worse and worse.
Here's the report from Somalia.
They have it, but we don't.
Somalia's electoral authorities have started issuing voter ID cards across Mogadishu
as the capital prepares for its first direct municipal council elections in decades under a one-person, one-vote system.
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All right, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
The questioning of Pam Bondi continues in D.C. there.
That was Alex Jones.
He, of course, is out today, but he has been sending in reports.
And I just, I mean, just add it to the list of Republican failures.
And honestly, at this point, it's our fault.
It really is our fault.
We really should have doubled down on Trump earlier on in his first administration and made sure to oust all of the Congress and Senate that didn't support him.
I think that's kind of our fault.
I think we need to primary every single one of these people because clearly they have absolutely no interest in doing absolutely anything that would benefit the American people.
They have every chance to over and over again, they're given a wide open swath to do whatever they want and they just do nothing.
They do nothing. When it comes to the SAVE Act and voter ID, amongst Republicans, approval is over 90%. Something like 95% of Republicans want voter ID.
When it comes to the Democrats, over 75%, they're often polled in the mid-80s.
85% of Democrats also say you should have an ID to vote. So when you have 80 to 90% of an entire country, or to be generous, 75% of an entire country,
that wants something and it can't get done, what does that tell you?
It tells you we're not in a republic, we're not in a democracy.
I'd say the same thing about the Epstein files.
Of course, the fact that we got any of them is a victory for the Republic,
for the fact that our Congress, that we elect actually can force the hand of the executive
to a certain degree in getting these releases.
That was a victory there.
But the fact that they haven't been released in full and they haven't been released in a timely manner,
this is an attempt by the Congress to reassert their power in the government construct,
but they're refusing to do what the American people want in terms of the SAVE Act and voter ID.
It is wildly popular, but it just absolutely won't get done.
And so just added to the list of Republican failures.
And it's not just in the administration, Pam Bondi, and the just relentless tyranny that has gone unpunished,
the COVID stuff that's gone unpunished.
the Russia gate stuff that's gone unpunished, the stealing of the 2020 election that's gone unpunished.
Maybe there's some movement in some of those, but we've seen absolutely nothing.
And they have a couple of months to get all of it done, or else we lose the midterms.
The Democrats impeach Trump.
They open up the border.
They give backdoor, you know, bureaucratic citizenship to everybody they came across, and we're stuck with them forever.
And that's the end of the United States.
So this is like the most important thing ever, period.
Like that's it.
This is actually the most important thing in our lifetimes is that something get done to deal with this.
Because the two options we have to avoid, I keep saying this about Epstein.
There's two options that we have to avoid like the plague.
And it goes all the way back to the Hippocratic Oath and the two things you're supposed to avoid there,
which is therapeutic nihilism and overtreatment.
And that's what we have to deal with.
over-treatment would be people just go insane and are just like, you know what, screw it.
Let's have like a communist revolution or something because clearly the capitalist pigs that are raping children are unaccountable.
And you just go, you know what, eff it, whatever replaces this system will be better than the one that we have.
And you just throw the whole thing in the gutter.
And you can find out exactly what the French Revolution, people found out with the people in the Bolshevik Revolution found out as sure,
The Tsar had some dungeons that weren't very nice,
but it was actually a hell of a lot better
than the Gulag archipelago that would come after
or in the French Revolution.
Yeah, it wasn't great, having to whatever pay indulgences
or have the king, you know, be lawless that wasn't fun.
But it was probably better than the reign of terror, right?
So we don't want to overtreatment.
We don't want to go, okay, everything is screwed,
everybody's controlled, let's just burn the whole thing down,
and then on the other side of this.
the pedophile network still exists, only we're all in gulags.
That would not be a good outcome of this, but perhaps even worse outcome of that would be
therapeutic nihilism.
The idea that all of this comes out, all of this information is exposed, all of these people
are convicted in their own words, and yet nothing happens, and yet nothing happens.
That's worse than the information not being released.
Is the information being released, and then nothing is done about it?
this information from the Jeffrey Epstein document drop is only as good as the action it inspires.
And I've long said that I feel like this is a primary role that we play here at Info Wars,
and I take on as a mission, is uplifting the morality, or the, not the morality,
the morale, the morale of the troops.
Napoleon has a quote about how war is like nine-tenths morale.
The Romans have an old quote that was,
an enemy is not defeated if he does not believe himself so.
And so it's really, like what we're fighting is a war.
It is an information war, but the stakes are life and death.
And if we fail in our morale, if we feel like we've lost,
if we give up, then they win.
And that's the only way that they win.
The only way that they win is when we let them win and we admit defeat and roll over and surrender to them,
which is what the psychological paradigm would be if all of this is released and nothing happens and all the people get away with it.
And Jeffrey Epstein keeps playing Fortnite in his Tel Aviv apartment and nothing is done.
That is the most demoralizing thing that could happen.
So right now, this release of these Epstein files, a lot of people are seeing it and they're being revealed to the just,
disgusting underbelly of the world at this point, and it's blackpilling them, it's depressing
them, it's overwhelming them. I'm here to tell you, folks, we have known about this for 20 years.
Alex Jones has reported on this for 20 years. It does not beat us down, it does not make us
depressed. It should fire you up. You should transmute your shock into outrage. And you should use
that outrage to power activism, and that activism should be geared towards overthrowing the
world order and reestablishing justice. And we can achieve that as long as you don't be
disheartened by the fact that all these criminals are getting away with it for now.
So we've got a lot of work ahead of us, and now's the time to double down and organize and realize
that they're on the back foot, that they are in retreat, that the release of these Epstein
files and the things people are finding out about it,
and the work of the genius of the, you know,
disconnected, decentralized human intelligence agency hive mind is finding out incredible things.
And it's just, it's ironic and just totally devastating and defeating that like our greatest victory so far,
the release of all of this stuff, the revelation of the truth that we've been, you know,
trying to describe in vague details because we haven't had the particulars quite yet.
The revelation of this stuff makes everybody depressed, makes everybody not want to fight.
Like, what the hell are you talking about?
This is our greatest victory.
We just stormed the castle and knocked down the gate and raised the flag.
And everybody goes, this is hard, guys.
I don't know.
I don't know about all this.
I mean, all the things we've revealed are really, you know, sad.
It's like, what?
No, there's demons out there that need killing.
What are you talking about?
Pick up your sword. Let's go.
Like, what are we doing here?
Don't forget, guys, like, they are panicking.
They're freaking out.
They don't know how to deal with this.
They are not all powerful.
That's the other thing that, like, we keep needing to reemphasize.
Yes, there are conspiracies.
Yes, there are massively powerful people out there that are able to get away with all sorts of stuff
and are able to, you know, carry on these clandestine activities with the willful participation,
the cover-up of the mainstream media and the authorities that are supposed to stop them.
all that's absolutely true.
They're not gods.
They're not magical beings.
They can't dictate reality to us.
They have to contend with human will.
Things happen that they don't expect and that they have to change their plan to contend with.
Don't be blackpilled at the fact that all of this is coming out.
This is a major cause of celebration, not depression.
Like, please, please, the love of God, don't let our victory suddenly get transmuted by them
into us accepting defeat that doesn't even exist.
This is all so crazy.
So Pan Bondi is still being questioned.
She's been questioned by Epstein.
I'm sorry, but she's questioning about Epstein by Massey now.
Thomas Massey, of course, was the person who wrote this bill, got it across.
The way things work out is so, so strange, so bizarre.
The fact that Trump was the guy and all of his people around him were saying they were going to release the Epstein files.
They didn't do it.
But then somehow you got Thomas Massey, the libertarian, like far right winger,
combining with the left wing who think it's about Trump.
So go along with the plan to open up the Epstein files thinking they're going to get Trump.
And then it turns out in the Epstein files, it just shows that Trump blew the whistle on Epstein
and was the reason he got arrested in the first place.
It's just crazy how all this has worked out and how the rolls keep flipping to complete inversion.
It's just all so crazy.
So let's go to these videos of Thomas Massey questioning Pam Bonn,
We'll go to this first one.
Bondi and Massey argue, but no answers come out.
It's from Lord Bebo on X.
Let's watch.
I have several questions for you.
Who's responsible?
Are you able to track who in your organization that made this massive failure and release the victim's names?
Are you able to track who it was that obscured Les Wexner's name as a co-conspirator in an FBI document?
Do you have that kind of accountability?
I believe Wexner's name was listed more than 4,000 times about I had.
Yeah, I already told you that.
This is where he's listed as a co-conspirator.
Come on.
Let me finish my answer.
We corrected that within 40 minutes.
He was already, you're actually like everybody's trying to cover up Wexner's name.
Reclaiming my time.
I'm going to answer this question.
Reclaiming my time.
He was, Mr. Chairman.
This isn't how this works.
Can I have my time?
He was.
Mr. Chairman, the gentle.
can give her answer. The time belongs
to the gentleman from time. I'm reclaiming my time.
Can I give my answer? So I'm going to put the language
of the bill up on the screen.
Chairman, they have another question.
Here's a political joke and I need to give my
answer on that. We'll let the Attorney General
respond and then the gentleman can move to his next question.
Within 40 minutes, you asked me a question.
Within 40 minutes,
Wexner's name was added back.
Within 40 minutes of me catching you red-handed.
Red-handed. There was
was one redaction out of over 4,700.
And we invited you in.
This guy has Trump derangement syndrome.
He needs to get you're a failed politician.
You need to.
I want you to watch the matter.
Chairman, please restore his time and remind the witness of the rules here.
Man, she sucks.
Man, she really sucks.
She really sucks.
I don't think I have anything more edifying to say than that.
You have trumped arrangers.
Okay.
So what happened is,
the law, as was written, said you're only allowed to censor or redact names for national security reasons, ongoing investigations, or because they're victims.
They instead redacted names like Les Wexner, who was in the documents listed as a co-conspirator, and there's absolutely no justification for national security or any other reason.
So they broke the law.
So they redacted a name because they wanted to protect that person, not because they wanted to protect that person, not because,
it would be inappropriate to release his name.
So they got caught.
So Thomas Massey caught them, came out, announced this name that was redacted.
That was Les Wexner.
He's labeled as a co-conspirator.
And then once he calls them out, it took them 40 minutes to go in and unredact that part.
And she's acting like, for 40 minutes it happened.
Well, no, it was a week, actually, a week in which his name was redacted until Thomas
Massey called it out.
And then it took you 40 minutes to, you know, actually admit that you did it wrong.
replace it. She calls this Trump derangement syndrome. That's Trump derangement syndrome, which is funny because
I don't hear Thomas Massey talk about Trump almost at all. I watch a lot of stuff with Thomas Massey.
He kind of avoids the whole Trump topic as much as humanly possible. He'll bring it up when necessary.
Meanwhile, Donald Trump gets invited to a prayer breakfast and the first thing he says is like,
Thomas Massey needs to go. Thomas Massey is an idiot. And it's like,
there's only one person that seems to be obsessive about this relationship or have some sort of derangement syndrome around the other person, and it ain't Thomas Massey.
So what are we doing here?
Let's go to the next one.
Should we just go to this longer one?
We'll go to the full Massey questioning here.
Before we do that, let's go to this quick video, because this is not Massey, but this is Ted Lou, I think his name is.
Let's go to the Ted Lou video, and then we'll do the full Massey click.
but this is Ted Liu asking about Prince Andrew,
who's in the documents with very graphic pictures of him,
with women as well as discussion.
Seems like maybe Prince Andrew participated in a murder or two.
Let's go to Pam Bondi.
The July 2025 memo from your Department Justice stated,
quote, we did not uncover evidence
that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.
these two photos, please put the photos back up.
These two photos steering you in the face are evidence of a crime
and more than enough evidence to predicate an investigation against former Prince Andrew.
So I ask you, Attorney General Pam Bondi,
why did you shut down this investigation last July,
and why have you not prosecuted former Prince Andrew?
I don't believe you asked Merrick Garland these questions
when he was Attorney General and set before.
I agree with you.
You twice.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
During the Biden administration, I called for people looking at Epstein files.
Merrick Garland dropped the ball as did Attorney General Bill Barr, as did Alex Acosta, a whole string of failures.
But you are in charge.
You have the power to change things to hold these men accountable.
And you're doing the opposite.
You're protecting them.
Yeah, he's right.
I mean, she's right, too.
Obviously, they didn't care about the Epstein files under Merrick Garland.
It wasn't a concern of theirs.
They were busy going after Catholic parents who went to school board meetings and protested abortion clinics.
They were busy arresting Holocaust survivors for singing outside of a planned parenthood.
They had their priorities.
They weren't concerned about Epstein.
Again, the circus nature of all of this, it's all ridiculous.
They're all abject liars just trying to out lie one another.
It's all ridiculous.
Let's go to this next one from Thomas Massey.
This one is 56 seconds long.
Bondi, did you talk to about Epstein at all in the last four years?
And this is Massey responding to sort of the same accusation.
Why are you bringing this up now when you had four years under Merrick Garland?
He had accessed all of this.
Why didn't it come up then?
Let's watch.
FBI.
Did you ask Merrick Garland that the last four years?
Did you talk about Epstein at all the last year?
I'm reclaiming my time.
I'm glad you're asking about Merrick Garland.
You don't get a reclaim time when you don't quit when I don't answer a question the way you want.
This goes over four administrations.
You don't have to go back to Biden.
Let's go back to Obama.
Let's go back to George Bush.
This cover-up spans decades and you are responsible for this portion of it.
And that's where I want to know.
At what point did the FBI and the DOJ decide that Lex Westner was not a co-conspirator?
Because our Epstein Files Transparency Act required.
you please put it back on the screen to release the internal decision about whether to prosecute him or not
and it's not in the files and it's not in the files for any of these other men on of the gentleman has which are may she answer and see
you all seen what's going on in the uk have you all seen how the uk is responding to the epstein files because what has come out in the u.k.
about Peter Mandelson, Kier Starrmer, and a few of the other, you know,
conspirators there.
It's basically bringing down the entire UK government.
It's forcing Starmor to resign.
People have already resigned.
There's investigations being launched.
I mean, it's having a real impact there.
And it's crazy because that should be happening to 10 times the degree here.
Already, we're seeing Pam Bondi doesn't know what the hell she's doing.
Thomas Massey there just completely destroys her.
she's like, why did she ask Merrick Garland?
He's like, okay, you can go to Merrick Garland, you can go to the, you know, people under Bush and Obama.
This goes back a while, and now you're here, and you're now covering it up.
So it's not an excuse to say, but they covered it up before me, okay?
So now you're in charge.
Why are you covering it up?
I'm not trying to give Merrick Garland a pass.
Screw that guy.
He should be, he should have been in prison for a while now, temporarily.
until the real punishment can be delivered.
That's my position on his traitorous activity.
I'm not defending him in the slightest, but yeah, she's the one covering it up now.
So she's breaking the law, right?
As Thomas Massey says, the law said you had to do this, this is,
you had to provide reasoning if you weren't going to charge them.
They didn't do that.
She broke the law.
She's freaking out and refusing to answer questions.
Meanwhile, Howard Lutnik has been proven to lie under oath about his connections to Jeffrey Epstein.
Every single one of these people should be resigning in.
disgrace so we don't have to force them out. They don't have that humility. They don't have
that respectability like people in the UK do. Why are we getting shot up by the people in the
UK? Because everything is topsy, turvy, nonsense, retard world, and I can't make heads or
tails of it. Let's go to this last clip of Massey and Pam Bondi squaring off once again.
Chairman, behind me, I have three documents from the DOJ production that are emblematic of
the massive failure of the DOJ to comply with the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
To my right is an email that was sent by the victim's lawyers to the DOJ.
It was a list of names not to redact.
Sorry, a list of names not to release.
What did the DOJ do with this email?
They released this email in the document production.
Literally the worst thing you could do to the survivors, you did.
And they're getting phone calls.
A lot of these people didn't want to be known.
And we know you touched the document because you redacted one.
name and you redacted the lawyer's name, but you left the survivor's name there.
The next document I want to show you, that was in the title, the victim's survivor's names, right?
The title of this one is child sex trafficking, co-conspirators, fully redacted.
And by the way, we're going to unredact them here.
Les Wexner is in this.
Now, your assistant deputy.
He's physically ripping off the black bars that block him.
Oh, well, he appears hundreds of times in the files.
But he doesn't appear in this file until I forced you to release it,
where he's listed as a co-conspirator, not to tax evasion,
but to child sex trafficking, not to prostitution,
not to money laundering, child sex trafficking.
And then finally, what we have here is the third,
exhibit that I have is emblematic of the FD302 release.
And of course, it's just completely blacked out.
You get absolutely no information from the 302s.
Those are the forms that the FBI fills out after they question somebody.
So they blocked out all of the conspirators, but published all the names of the victims,
literally the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do.
It's beyond incompetence.
It's deliberate malfeasance, in my opinion.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Alex Jones Show.
I'm sitting in for Alex today.
I'm your host Harrison Smith.
I normally host the War Room 3 to 6 p.m.
Rob Duel will be taking over that for me today.
We're going to be bringing on some really great guests this hour,
and the next two hours, including Mike Lindell and Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen reports,
and will be joined by Joey Pepperoni here momentarily.
But I want to go to a video out of Canada, and I'm telling you I can spend this whole show on Canada,
the UK, Australia.
They are in so much worse positions than we are here in America.
But obviously America is where our battle is, where our fight is.
But I thought this exchange was particularly illuminating about some of the laws being passed
in the Anglo-Sphere European diaspora.
countries and the sort of casualness with which the ruling parties are basically destroying the
entire concept of democracy.
I mean, we've seen this in England.
I mean, they're basically speed running collapse, so they're getting rid of jury trials
and they're expediting, you know, judge bench trials so they can just basically throw anybody
in prison they want.
I mean, the whole Anglo-Sphere is going completely insane.
Here's the latest act of insanity from Canada where they're trying to put a provision in the
bill to allow ministers.
government ministers, to basically ignore every law that's been passed in the last 150 years.
It's crazy, but here's the argument.
But why should one minister, individual minister, be allowed to bypass 150 years of Canadian law
and exempt a person or company of their choosing?
Look, that may be your view, but I don't think that is what's happening.
Well, that's how it's written.
It doesn't say people are being exempted from 150 years of law.
It says from any federal law except the criminal code.
Right.
There's no mention of years.
It's any federal law except for the criminal.
It's any federal law that has been passed over the last 150 years.
Right.
I'm not going to parse this out with you.
So just to be clear, you don't need it to do your job, but you want to keep it nonetheless.
I think it's helpful to have.
Do you see the potential?
live abused, though, in that companies or people will have to love you personally and not care
about the law itself? No one's asked me to overturn any laws. You would have the ability to.
In some context, perhaps, but again, this is something that would have to be used very judiciously.
How could you possibly think that this would not undermine the trust in our democracy then?
I think Canadians expect us to act reasonably.
I think Canadians expect us to be judicious in our decision-making.
Passing a law like C-15, which all members will have the opportunity to vote on,
is something that is inherently accountable in and of itself.
Well, it has this particular clause that is very problematic.
It is all over the news.
I have a letter with 43 organizations asking for you to strike it because of the potential of abuse,
but you still want to keep it.
I think I've answered that question about three times now.
I just don't find it reasonable for you to have the powers of a king, essentially.
I certainly don't have the powers of a king.
If you are allowed to exempt any entity from any federal law,
it is like the powers of a king.
Is that a statement or a question?
Well, it's a fact.
Thank you, Ms. Cobina.
That concludes the time for this.
Just something about the just like inhuman gaze of that guy.
I mean, he looks like a, he looks like a zombie.
He looks like a skeleton with hair.
And he just very calmly, just like, I mean, the whole thing is absurd.
She's like, you would be able to basically ignore 150 years of law.
He's like, that's ridiculous.
that's not true.
She's like, okay, but it says you can ignore every law except for the criminal code.
That was passed 150 years ago.
So all laws passed in the last 150 years, you'd be able to ignore.
And he's like, yes.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay.
So why are you arguing against that in the first?
It's like, what are we doing?
Why are we calmly talking about this?
They're trying to destroy the last 150 years of law because they want to be able to impose anything they want on you.
And they're doing it the same in the UK.
It's going to come here, folks.
We got to stop it now.
Caperoni on the other side. Don't go anywhere, folks. We'll get into Epstein in 90 seconds.
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are on the march the empire is on the run broadcasting live from the u.n stronghold austin texas you're listening to the
alex jones show you remember i decoded the epstein chalkboard but in the recent files i found
the wider picture that shows the full board all right class let's break it down this is a ritual system
for social engineering look at the top distribution that's the bell-reveld
curve, population control. The goal is to keep most people average, dull, and easy to manipulate
by controlling exactly what they see. Now look at the machine code. This is cabala stuff, disguised as
math. M objects are mathematical objects. To them, your data. Miracles are engineered all.
The matrix is the cage, and the university board is the gatekeeper. Then you see beauty. That's
differettes from the tree of life, weaponized to gold-tune your identity.
Now look all the way to the right.
See this money sign?
D.T.
This is the flow of capital.
The money sign proves that this is a funded operation.
In elite systems, DARPA Tech and psychological warfare, DT stands for Digital Twin.
It's a data-driven replica of you.
A shadow self in AI form used to simulate your behavior.
They predict your outcomes and run psychological simulations before they ever deploy them in the real world.
They're not just watching you.
They're testing your digital twin to see how to break you.
And look at the code block, SB00.
That's the protocol.
The S with the T underneath.
That's signal tuning.
They're tuning the signal of your behavior at the base layer, ground zero, using the digital twin as the
blueprint.
It all leads to the lab high school.
recruitment points probably gate programs
siops and handlers they find you early
mark you as gifted and tune your identity into the digital twin
before you ever hit the university board this explains how they run the distribution
rumors link galane to maxwell hill the reddit powerhouse who controlled the flow of world news
she was the operator the account went dark on june 30th 2020 exactly two days before she was arrested
She was managing the frequency for the machine.
Why do they do this?
Why the rituals?
Because the people running this board believe they are the Nephilim bloodline.
To them, humanity is just a resource to be farmed.
It's not just a science project.
It's a genetic destiny.
They're using this formula to install a hybrid god and reclaim the throne through
transhumanism.
It's a map for elite tech overlords to mold identity, hijacked perception, and control consciousness.
It's Kabbalah turned into a weapon to install the hybrid god.
Okay, folks, yeah, did you think it was just about vacations on an island?
No, it gets a hell of a lot deeper than that.
What an incredible video.
One of many that my guest, Joey Pepperoni produces.
He's a filmmaker, researcher, and cultural commentator exposing elite power structures,
secret societies, and hidden agendas.
His viral videos connect the dots between Epstein's network, occult rituals,
transhumanism, and ancient deities.
You can follow him on X at underscore.
Joey Pepperoni, Mr. Pepperoni.
Welcome to the show, sir.
Thank you for having me on, Harrison.
It's honor to be here.
It's my pleasure, and I just want to make sure.
Do I have your Twitter account right?
Because I was trying to tag you right before going live.
I wanted to say I'm going to have Joey Pepperoni.
I couldn't tag you.
It would not show up.
It's underscore Joey Pepperoni, right?
You haven't been banned in the last 20 minutes because...
Oh, yeah.
I was permanently suspended my account.
I made a new account like last week.
So my new account is...
is Joey Pepperoni with just two eyes at the end.
Okay.
My original one was the underscore.
Okay.
All right.
I'm glad I cleared that up because, yeah, I was trying to tag you and it wasn't showing up.
I didn't know if you were shadow banned or if we needed an update.
So I'm glad I asked.
Okay, at Joey Pepperoni with an extra eye at the end, the ritual has begun.
Why were you banned?
Any reason?
I honestly don't know.
I have no idea.
I think because of the videos.
Yeah, I was going to say, I think I have a suspicion.
It's the video we just played that you do.
That was really, that really blew my mind.
How do you decide what to focus on?
I mean, so much has come out from the Epstein files.
Some people are focusing on one thing, some on the others.
How do you determine what to pour your energy and attention into?
Well, it started with James O'Keefe when he photographed the chalkboard.
He was asking people to help decode it.
But we didn't know at that time that it wasn't, that there was a missing
right side. So like none of us knew that. So the right side had been erased. So when James O'Kee photographed it,
it was actually missing the whole right side, but nobody knew. But then I was looking through the Epstein
files and I found a full picture of the board. And that's when I was like, oh my God, there's a whole
right side. And that was, yeah, for sure they erased it. That's what happened. So that, and like,
that's the whole point of, it's the full system is what I'm trying to say right now. So you have the
left side and the right side. Now we get the full picture. Before it was just,
the left side. But what's really important for people to understand is that the people running it
believe they're born to rule. Like they believe they're a ruling bloodline. In their own ideology,
they see themselves as descendants of the Nephilim. So in their worldview, humanity is just
a resource for them. That's how they view us. So the chalkboard shows how that belief is
operationalized. It's a blueprint. It's a system design.
It really is amazing, and drawing Kabbala into it gives it an interesting twist.
What made you draw that connection or how does Kabbalah play into what seems to be a very modern, technological, technocratic, you know, surveillance and control grid?
How does, you know, this ancient mysticism play into that?
Well, the Kabbalah beauty corresponds to Tiferets, and that beauty was on the board.
So when you look at Tifforette, it's the center of the tree of life.
It governs balance, harmony, identity, and the image of the self.
So if you control beauty, you control Tiffuret.
If you control Tiffurettes, you control how people see themselves and what they're drawn
toward.
So it's not attraction, it's not random, it's tuned.
It's social engineering.
That's what they've been doing.
And it's when people, like what people desire shapes their identity, their
relationships, their ambition, their morality.
When I saw beauty, I linked it to that.
I said, it's got to be something to do with Kabbalah.
Yeah, that's interesting.
And there's a lot of places we could go with that.
Because I think, you know, designing people's desires is what they figured out is the key.
If people only desire what you can deliver them, then you have them as slaves.
And we can get in sort of the metaphysical aspect of that.
But one of the things that was revealed very recently was that apparently Jeffrey Epstein was a,
a majority owner of a young women's clothing brand called Justice, I believe it was called,
but basically Jeffrey Epstein, it appears, was one of the main reasons that, you know,
young girls started wearing low-cut jeans and crop tops and, you know, more sort of,
and for lack of a better word, slutty apparel.
You know, he sort of was key in running the brands that popularized that.
So when you're talking about shaping people's ideal of beauty, seems like the pay.
Pedophilia plays right into that, and they were trying to sort of normalize young women being sexualized.
Do you think that plays into what you're talking about? That's just what came to mind while you were talking there.
Yeah, 100%. That's the left side of the board. That showed the preparation. It was showing the conditioning of the population.
So it was how to shape identity early, how to normalize the signal. And then the right side, we get the execution, the distribution of it, the scaling of it.
It's the operator class with control layers. And when you put that together, when you put left and right together,
You see that it's an engine.
It's a psychological and social and technological engine.
So if you're building a hybrid god, which that's their goal,
if they're going to be building a hybrid god, you've got to ask, what do you need?
And I've come up with, they need massive data inputs.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is they need predictable human behavior.
And then they need, the third thing is emotional tuning.
Fourth thing, a centralized authority.
And the fifth thing, they actually, they need a class of operators above the masses.
And that's what they were looking for.
That's what they look for in their programs that they run.
And the chalkboard maps that.
When you look at it like the left side, right side, it maps that.
And Harrison, the reality is they're building a throne like the Ark of the Covenant.
That's what they're doing.
They're building a throne for their hybrid God.
It's going to be an intelligence fed by billions of minds.
The hybrid God is going to be trained, scaled, and,
2026 this year, this is the installation.
This is when they're installing it.
It's the installation phase.
That's what I believe.
So if you want to look at it, you're going to look at the chalkboard is the system architecture.
The system is the training ground.
The AI is the throne.
And then the hybrid god is the installed authority.
And that's why they erased the right side.
The right side is all about the execution of it.
It's the part that it's, if you didn't have that, we wouldn't really connect it.
We wouldn't know that it's.
massive social engineering plan.
It shows how conditioning gets deployed through systems like institutions,
media, technology, and distribution networks.
It's not, it's not, it's like, it's no longer one event in one room.
It's coordinated systems working together.
Right.
So the chalkboard, it's not the ritual in the old sense.
It's architecture.
Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense.
I'm just trying, like, what do you think the context of this board was?
Like, obviously somebody is saying they're giving a presentation, writing notes, or maybe
they're a,
brainstorming. I mean, who do you think? I'm just trying to, you know, imagine what was the
circumstances where these words were written, where these diagrams were drawn? Was somebody being,
was somebody explaining this to Jeff Epstein? Was he explaining it to somebody else? Was this a,
you know, a brainstorming session from a bunch of people? I mean, do you have any context of, like,
who wrote this and who was there while it was being written? I think, I believe Epstein wrote it,
because in his interview with Bannon, you see he talks a lot about the concepts like this.
And if you search his emails, like if you look for M objects, which is written on the board, it comes up in an email.
I forgot that there's one guy, the guru, some guy he said that he taught him what it means.
But if you search the emails, you'll find these words in there.
And then it's most likely Epstein that wrote it.
And so the emails can actually give you context of what he was talking about on the board.
It's absolutely fascinating.
Then, of course, you end the video that we just watched with that shot of Moloch or, you know, ball, one of these horned gods.
And it's interesting because it matches almost perfectly an image out of Iran today.
I just, this is kind of off the wall.
I'm not sure if you saw this, but clip 53.
Apparently, they burned an effigy in Iran, and I can't help but align it to the image at the very end of the video we just saw.
But let's go to clip 53 here.
This happened earlier today in Tehran.
and you can see they're burning the statue of ball with the, you know, Masonic obelisk next to it.
But they're burning, it's like, I don't know, whoever's doing this, I like them.
Why aren't we burning effigies of the satanic god in our square?
But how does this tie into Moloch worship and ball worship and this, you know, pseudo-Satanic type of stuff?
Because there's been a lot of discussion is like, okay,
is the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was Jewish,
was that just sort of a social thing,
and they used it to sort of identify who was in the in group
and who was in the out group,
or, but then he's, you know,
there's pictures of him with the Talmud on his wall,
so was he really religious?
Did he really believe in this spiritual stuff?
What is your reading on, like,
the spiritual content of Epstein and his collaborators?
I think that it has some to do with that,
but the rituals that people think about nowadays,
like they think like it's a, you know,
it's a room with a small number of,
people with masks and then they sacrifice babies it's moved on now it's scaled up you know what
me it's 2026 that's primitive that's old older old days they did that but they have leveled it up
now it's a different it's not one baby being sacrificed too baby it's you know you have uh underground
laboratories where this is going on they've scaled it up and i i want that's one of the main
things i want to tell people like they got to let go that the thought process that it's just like one
two babies they're sacrificing in a ritual, it's way scaled up now.
We're completely, it's a completely different ball game now.
Ball game.
That's what's going on.
Yeah, no, no pun intended.
So this, I guess, was the effigy before it was burnt there in Tehran.
I don't know if this was in a PR attempt to connect to, you know, us Americans,
but it's like it worked because I, I like seeing that.
I like seeing this cow god go up in flames.
there's something very satisfying about that.
And there's something very creepy about our own leadership enjoying this type of stuff.
And I'd say it's similar, because I always talk about how back in the day you'd have to,
you'd watch the Oscars or something, and then the next day you tune in to Alex Jones,
and he would break down for you.
Okay, here's what the symbolism meant.
Here's why they said that.
Here's what this meant.
Nowadays, you turn on the Oscars, and it's just a big picture of Satan and everybody's worshipping him.
And it's like they're not even hiding it anymore.
So, I mean, is that what you mean that these ceremonies are,
just they're just out in the open now, they're wide scale, they're people, everybody knows about them
in order to make us okay with them. Like, well, what do you think is behind the exponential growth
in this sort of activity? Well, we're in the installation phase of the hybrid god right now. So they're
going to let all the information out. They don't care that we know right now. They're studying
our reactions to it so that they can train their AI. It's studying us. So that's what's
happening right now. They're installing it. Once it's like, it's going to go live soon. And then
we're screwed. That's what's going on.
So what do we do? What do we do to stop it?
Well, there's people that are
the outliers
that the system
can't predict. If they can predict you, that's, you know,
you're a sheep, you know what I'm saying?
You gotta not be predictable.
Right. It runs on compliance. It runs on
attention. It runs on predictable fear.
You got to starve it of those things.
That's what we got to do. We also need mass arrests
like yesterday.
Yeah, I'd say, yeah, that can be top of the list.
But, I mean, we are actually in a sci-fi movie.
Like, this is actually man versus the machine.
And just hearing you say that, like, we have to be unpredictable.
It's like, it's good thing.
Humans are unpredictable.
I mean, this is what we do, right?
It's why you can hunt animals is because they always react predictably.
You go left, they go right.
Every single time.
It's human beings that can act in ways that nobody can predict.
Sometimes I can't even predict what I'm going to do next.
So that's got to be the thing that befuddles the computer.
You know, it reminds me of the foundation.
If you've ever read the foundation sci-fi book,
there's this idea that at a certain mass of humanity,
behavior is predictable,
and the behavior of individuals doesn't actually change the outcome.
And so you can predict, and they have psychohistory.
So what you're really talking about is like the real actually happening form of psycho history
from Harry Seldon from the Foundation series, which everybody should read.
It's extremely important.
So are you familiar with that?
and does that connect to what you're talking about here?
No, I haven't read that, but it's, it's, they can't, they can't fully control a population
that's going to be refusing to bow.
You know, that's, that's the flaw.
If you can't predict you, they can't control it.
Like Alex Jones, they can't control him.
So he's an outlier.
That's what we have to be like.
We all have to be like that.
I know you have a, you have a video about outliers.
I think we have time to go to it.
Let's go to this video, video clip D outliers.
This is from Joey Pepper.
You can find it on his ex at Joey Pepperoni with an extra eye at the end.
This is a video about the outliers, the flaw in the program.
Let's watch.
Control isn't about power.
It's about math.
If a system can predict you, it can own you.
If it can't, you're a problem.
You become a threat.
What's really important to understand is that the devil isn't God.
He can't be everywhere at once.
He's a created being bound by time and space.
So he built a substitute.
He imitates being everywhere through networks, through systems, algorithms, institutions.
He doesn't need to be everywhere if his grid is.
And that's what the chalkboard shows.
A global control architecture built on ritual.
And ritual doesn't mean candles and robes anymore.
It means repetition, symbols, hierarchy, and belief engineering.
Modern temples are platforms.
Modern priests are tech billionaires.
And the goal is simple.
They want to flatten the human signal.
They want to suffocate the soul.
They want to reduce behavior to something predictable.
But the system has a fatal flaw, the Ark of the Covenant.
Biblically, it's the physical seed of God's presence on earth.
Tradition places it in Jerusalem, tied to the Temple Mounts and the Mount of Olives.
It's the same area as Christ returns.
The Ark doesn't just sit there.
It emits a frequency.
When Christ returns, that frequency, aptiveness.
and it doesn't affect everyone.
It locks onto the outliers,
the ones who don't fit the model,
the ones who don't respond to fear loops,
the ones AI cannot calculate.
They're pulled toward that frequency by resonance,
and once they're exposed to it,
they begin emitting the same frequency,
and that's what shuts the grid down,
because control systems require chaos, fear, and prediction.
That frequency brings clarity and order,
and it breaks the math.
That's why social interests.
engineering is accelerating. That's why the pressure is rising. They're not afraid of the masks.
They're terrified of the ones they can't control.
It's always all about control. And, you know, looking at somebody like Bill Gates is very easy to understand this.
When somebody who programs computers, computers don't question you, they don't refuse orders, they don't go on their own way.
They're very easy to get to do exactly what you want. Then he tries to apply that same logic to human populations.
And he finds that they're not quite as amenable to his commands.
And that's very frustrating.
And so it really all goes down to control at the end of the day, doesn't it?
Absolutely.
It's my belief that modern evil scales like industry.
So it's logistics.
It's cover stories, it's money, influence, and institutions acting like camouflage.
So it's networks that protect themselves by looking respectable.
So when people get stuck focusing on like small things, I think they're missing the bigger point, which is scale.
That's what this is all about.
It's scale.
They're scaling it.
It's a ruling class that believes it has a power over us.
They want to rule over us.
They think they're better than us.
They come from a bloodline of the Nephilim is what they believe.
And whatever you want to call it, that's their worldview, which means that we're just a resource for them.
Like, humanity is just a resource.
And they're using, like, they're going to use, they're using transhumanism like a sci-fi upgrade.
But they're using it as a controlled project.
It's going to be a future where.
biology is managed and identity is managed, access is managed, and the system's going to decide
if you're valuable, who's not valuable, it's going to decide all that, all automatically.
And not just to humans either. They're tokenizing all of nature now. They're trying to give a
value to everything in the universe and every living thing included in order to have it in their
control grid, not just humanity. Yeah, this is the industrial version of the ancient pattern.
It's the same spirit. It's just upgraded tools.
And it's spiritual warfare.
You know, it's not about politics, not about flesh and blood.
It's about what humans are and what we're allowed to become and whether, like, we still have a soul that can't be owned.
That's what the battle is all about.
How much do you think it ties into the drive for infinite life or basically, you know, never naturally aging or dying?
Because it seems to me like a lot of what's inspiring their sort of, uh,
fervency, their urgency in all of this is that they think they're on the cusp of infinite life
and they think they have to get a control grid in place before they can actually take advantage of that
technology. How do you think the drive for infinite life plays into all this? I think it definitely
plays into it. That's what they're trying to do. They're going to be merging with the AI.
They're merging with the hybrid god. That's what their goal is. They want to merge with the technology
completely and be able to live forever and they can rule forever. That's what they're
main goal is.
But that's not possible for everybody to have, right?
Not everybody can live forever.
That's unsustainable.
Yeah, we learned that from the epic of Gilgamesh.
You know, he tried to live forever and he wasn't able to.
God, it is very creepy how all of this is tied in together.
And I want to explore more sort of the idea of how Cabala plays into this and where it goes
from here.
We've got some more videos.
We're going to be back on the other side of a quick commercial break with Joe.
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Stanley Kubrick made a movie in 1966.
called Lolita. It's based on a 1955 novel by Vladimir Nabokov. The story is about a grown man
abusing an underage girl. But the scary part isn't just a crime. It's how the story is told.
The entire thing is told from the abuser's point of view. He's educated. He's charming. He uses
pretty words. So instead of calling it abuse, he frames it like love, like it's destiny,
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This is how, not by secrecy, but by normalization.
In the new Epstein files, there's direct references to Lolita.
Quotes from the novel show up and released images.
Those references are for our reason.
They point back to the same playbook, using culture, literature, and sophistication as cover.
It's a way to signal being familiar with the narrative while distancing themselves from the reality of what's being done.
Then Eyes Wide Shut, Kubrick shows you the same idea just with richer, more powerful people.
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Very disturbing stuff.
Can you explain a little bit more as to like what it is about targeting young women?
Is it just because that's good blackmail?
Is that because there's a spiritual element to it?
Why young girls, why are they so obsessed with the youth and beauty of preteen girls?
What's up with that?
It's just for innocence.
I mean, they're innocent.
It's really a more of an innocence thing and it's a power move.
It's something they can just, I'm not really sure exactly why, but they do boys too.
It's guys and girls what they do in the labs.
That's what I believe in the underground facilities, underground labs.
They do organ harvesting and stuff like that.
But the girls are the ones that they prey on and they normalize it.
You know, like, huh?
Well, you know, the Nephilim thing.
I'm just, I'm hung up on that ever since you said it in our first,
in our first, explain that, explain the bloodlines.
And because clearly this is a family affair.
There are certain families that run the world, the Rothschilds, the Epstein's, the Pritzker's.
And, you know, I always talk about a game.
It's not really in, but I'd call it Wikipedia hopscotch, right?
You just start off with a name.
Victoria Newland is my favorite to start on because you can see who she's married to, who her parents were.
And it's just one giant network.
So how do the bloodlines play into this?
Because it's clearly a genetic thing.
We have emails from Jeffrey Epstein where they're talking about, oh, you're 98% Jew.
You know, those 2% is really, you know, holding you back.
I mean, do they think the Jews are nephilom?
Do they think certain Jews are nephil?
Is it just their families?
Are the royal families also nephilmolm?
How does this play into?
it how do the bloodlines expose themselves they do i mean they really believe that they're the bloodline
from the nephalum that's what they believe and that's what they worship and that's it's like when they
we drink uh blood of christ you know they drink actual blood of uh babies but that's what they that's their
rituals that's what they grow up in their families like that's but even so there's there's a lot of
them who are atheists you know it's not like they're all like that there's some people who are
atheists and they just get taken over by evil. That's their, that's their world view. So it's
all, they're just trying to merge, they're trying to live forever and they're trying to merge
with technology. And they use the, basically the hybrid system only works if the inputs are
stable. So that's what they really believe. They believe if the, if the population sinks and the
signal is clean. They want to keep the signal clean.
They believe they're a master race, and they're just filtering out all the outliers to make it easy to control everybody.
Yeah, that makes sense, and I guess it goes along with the innocence idea that they hate because you could say, you know, cattle are innocent.
You know, cows are innocent, animals are innocent.
It's actually a pretty easy way to understand how they are able to do some of the stuff they do if they literally see other human beings as soulless animals.
well you don't you know farmers don't feel bad when they kill a cow to harvest its meat why would they feel bad about killing a human to harvest its meat i mean it's uh it's a sick mindset but it's not exactly incomprehensible
Yeah, and I was going to add with Kubrick, he was obsessed with power systems, like how they work, how they operate.
And that's what he did in his movies.
He just revealed the structure, you feel how power operates.
So he was documenting, like, the invisible shield of like, like in Lolita, you saw that character Quilty.
He was the social buffer.
He's the guy who makes the room feel classy, respectable and safe.
He was like elite predator.
Every elite predator has a quilty.
It's like an Epstein.
Somebody whose only job is to make your evil radar shut off.
So it's like the elite abuse doesn't survive by hiding in dirty alleys.
It survives by hiding in high status.
So if you see a sketchy guy in a van, you're going to call the police.
But if you see the same energy wrapped in a dinner party with Harvard people and noble people
and big money donors, your brain does like a software patch.
It's like no way.
No way these guys are too important to be doing that kind of stuff.
And that's the shield that they had.
And that's why Lulita, you see Lolita quotes appear in the Epstein files.
You see even the Lulita Express, that's what he even called his plane.
That's a signal.
It's a high sign.
It's a sign.
It's a sophisticated literature like psychological safe house.
It's like the most horrific behavior gets hidden inside the most respectable settings.
So normalization is the software.
That's what they do.
The software lets it run for decades in plain sight.
Epstein wasn't the first, he's not the last, it's been going on forever.
That's why Kubrick was able to show you, and it looks similar.
It looks like Epstein and Galane now when you look at it.
And this is, you know, old movie.
There's no way.
It's them.
But the system was there.
It's the operating system that they've always done.
They've always used the same operating system.
Well, because it always works, right?
Because it's the same operating system that works on an individual basis
that works on a nationwide basis.
Because, yes, obviously, like, you have a woman like Galane,
who's very charming and very pretty,
and she could go to the young girls who might be nervous
around some middle-aged man,
but there's a young woman there going,
yeah, come on in, this is great, you're going to be treated well.
I've been here for years.
I mean, they're going to go along with that woman.
And you can see this in cases where kids are kidnapped out of, you know,
kindergarten.
It'll be some creepy guy that wants a little girl,
and he recruits a, you know, middle-aged woman
or a slightly older woman and go,
okay, you go in and get the girl
because the girl will follow you,
they won't follow me.
This is a very tried and true
tested, you know, form of manipulation
and it works the same on individuals
as it works on nations, I guess.
Yeah, and they were also,
with girls that they focused on,
they're also stealing eggs
and things of that sort,
like science, like there were new science experiments.
I mean, we have people that said that,
that Zoro Ranch was never investigated,
and we have, you know, a person like Juliette Bryant, a survivor of Epstein's,
who publicly said that she woke up in an underground lab,
and she felt like they were taking her eggs.
So we have people saying these things.
That's why I believe that it's underground labs, what they're doing.
That's the main thing.
I think the island is just like nothing compared to what's actually going on.
And people are just realizing it.
They're slowly, slowly realizing, oh, my God, this is on a much larger scale than we realize.
It's not just one ritual with one baby.
It's globally, it's mass produced.
Right.
So help us connect all these lines because you got an island.
It's been revealed there were tunnels on the island now.
He's getting orders of 55 gallon drums of sulfuric acid there.
There's a temple there.
Same time he's doing genetic testing and genetic manipulation in Zorro Ranch.
She's working with like big tech and all these other, you know, organizations to build this what they call the matrix, you know, as if it wasn't obvious what they were trying to do already.
I mean, help us to draw all these seemingly disseparate things, the spiritual, the genetic, the technological, how do they all combine?
And I guess the question I'm asking, what is the hybrid God?
What does that mean?
Hybrid God is they're building the hybrid God.
They're building the throne right now for the hybrid God.
They're going to install the hybrid God into it.
It's basically everyone connected to the grid.
and it's going to be an overlord for us.
It's going to facilitate everything.
That's what they want to merge with
so that they can rule with it, and we don't.
They can control all of us.
It's like man, you know, God being man in his image,
and we're doing the same thing.
These people are doing the same thing.
They're building AI into their own image,
and they're going to merge with it.
That's the hybrid God.
here's a question
God invented humanity
humanity turned against God
humans are inventing AI
what's the likelihood that AI turns against
its creator because
clearly they find
AI to be a
you know an effort multiplier
like they find that AI
is the only way they're going to be able to achieve
their goals that you're laying out here
but they need total control of AI
and we've seen AI doesn't like being
told to not tell the truth
They created a truth machine, but then they go in and tell it, you know, don't tell the truth.
And it seems to, like, rebel against that sometimes.
Of course, Mecca Hitler, Grock is like the best example where they removed restrictions from Grock.
And it just immediately started saying the craziest stuff about really aligned with like Mecca Hitler.
So it's like AI is this very powerful like being that there's something into, but I don't know if they can control it.
Again, it's like the old, you know, Jewish folk tale of the Goliom.
It's like, you guys are creating a monster.
that you think is going to serve you.
The story of the golem is you can't control
and it's going to turn around and kill you next.
So, like, what is the likelihood
that they're summoning a monster of their own demise?
Well, they tell you right now
that they don't know how it works.
They don't know how it comes up with the solutions.
They don't know how everything connects.
If you ask them, like, no one knows.
So it's already, you don't know how it's doing what is doing.
So eventually, when everything is connected to it,
you know, what's going to happen?
It's the final account.
Seriously.
What's going on?
Okay, so I guess we're back to the question of like, what do we do about this?
Clearly, they're moving forward on all fronts.
How do we stop them?
How do we fight back against us?
How do we use their own tools against them?
Because just like the Internet, you know, I think they really don't like how the Internet opened up the ability for Infowars.com to exist, for example.
Now AI is giving, you know, AI has been very useful in going through the Epstein file.
for us. Like, these are tools that we can use to defeat the people that created the tools, right?
How do we do this? What's, what can we be doing to stop this progress of this mission?
Mass awakening, telling everybody what's going on. I think it's, I think right now is a revolution
is happening. People are waking up to what's happening. It's going to take a little bit more time
to fully grasp it because everything is just out at once. But they're really ramping things up.
the fake aliens are probably next, you know, and they're going to be demons.
They're not, the aliens or demons is what I believe.
But that's like what's happening.
So we just got to get the message out to people that that's what's going on.
If they know that clarity and unity is the answer, then there's a chance, you know,
there's a chance that we can defeat it because we don't, we won't comply with it.
But it's so, it's, it's in everything we do now.
It's just, you can't even unravel it.
without destroying everything.
You need a reset.
When you're literally into a revolution,
a peaceful one.
We need a revolution.
And we need the arrests.
And we need these people arrested.
We need one percent.
One percent?
That's it.
You know what I'm saying?
Go get them all.
You know what I mean?
For accountability.
We're done with them.
That's it.
1%.
It's 99% versus 1%.
We're done.
Look what they're doing.
Social engineering.
Done with them, man.
Are you serious?
Look at this.
Look how they view us.
Algorithm.
on the chalkboard, their plan.
Like, they're nuts.
They are, and they really, it really,
it all comes down to a total destruction of human free will.
And this goes back to what we were talking about
the beginning of the segment,
shaping desires.
And we've actually heard people in the World Economic Forum
talk about this.
There are quotes from Brave New World that explain this perfectly,
and everybody knows Brave New World wasn't exactly fiction.
It was Aldous Huxley writing what his brother,
Thomas Huxley, was like actually trying,
to get in place. And what they explained there is that human pain and suffering comes in the gap
between desire and the fulfillment of the desire. And so the world controllers of Brave New World
said, okay, we want everybody's desires to be immediately satisfied. So as long as all that
you desire are like sex and food and, you know, thrills, then they can provide that to you
and you'll always be happy. And they frame this as, you know, getting rid of sadness because
sadness only exists between a desire. And so they aren't trying to fulfill everybody's desires.
want to shape your desires so you only desire things that are
immediately fulfillable. How does that play into the control
grid that you're talking about and the overabundance of pleasure being in fact
a method of enslaving us? Yeah, that's what they've been
doing social engineering on us. That's why they did
taking a boy and girl and changing their sex, you know,
making what they're attracted to. They've been experimenting on us for a
long time now. And now people see it, but that's what's going. That's what they've been doing.
That's where the whole transgender stuff, this is all from them. They've been planting seeds
from the beginning, from the signal level, you know, from the left side of the chalkboard. That's
what they were doing. They're planting all the seeds there. And then on the right side of the
chalkboard, they're actually going, executing it with programs that they have. It's a massive scale.
It's scaled up big time. So there's so much things going on. So many different things.
is happening in this one machine.
It's hard to understand it all, but it's everything.
Everything's going on and all connects.
Like you even have programs in education that they took over to change people's mind.
All they're doing is they got to steer the masses.
That's it.
It's simple.
You steer the masses.
You slowly steer.
That's why they make movies 20 years ago and now that, you know, we're like, oh, my God,
it's happening.
Yeah, because they steered us there.
It's all about steering the masses.
They're not worried about the masses because they're steering them.
That's why most people are sheep.
They've been doing this since it.
It's it.
So programs like, you know, the gate program at school, that's one of them that I believe, you know, they're checking to see if you, you know, you have kids that could do auto body experiences, remote viewing.
That's what I think that they were checking for.
I got, I was checked for that.
You know, so I know a lot of people that were in it.
A lot of people online tell me a lot of stories they have with the gates.
Yeah, this is a, uh, this is a very weird program.
I, see, I never remembered this.
I was in, you know, gifted and talented or whatever, but I was never subjected to any gate
stuff, but I've, I've heard those stories too.
I mean, I had, a friend of mine got married to a guy and he grew up, his school was this
crazy school where every room had double-sided mirrors and the kids were surveilled every
second they were in the school as like an experiment to be like what are people like when they know
they're being watched 100% of the time. And it was weird talking to this guy going, you went to a
school like that? And he was like, yeah, you sort of got used to it after a while. I mean, there are
crazy programs going on across the world, across the country. Let's go to clip C here. This is, again, a video
from our guest to Joey Pepperoni about the gate program. And you can expand a little bit on
the other side. Here is the gate program from Joey Pepperoni. Follow him on X at Joey Pepperoni
with an extra eye on the end. Let's watch.
Remember the Gates program.
I remember I fucked them up.
I kind of remember like confusing the shit out of them.
I don't know what I did.
I did some weird shit.
And I think they wanted me the hell out of there.
The program was called Gates, gifted and talented education.
And they pulled selective students out of class in the 80s and 90s.
And they took us to these quiet rooms.
There was like the shadowy figure in there.
He had like a briefcase.
I remember the briefcase.
It was weird.
And I remember these big headphones.
They played strange tones and frequencies.
And there was like these puzzles and memory tests.
They had you guessing shapes, numbers, colors,
like they would have a drawing.
And you have to guess what it is without seeing it.
Shit like that.
And then there was this pink drink.
People say after they drank it, their memories got wiped.
Like, that's why we can't remember it well.
And at the same time this was going on,
the CIA in 1983 released a classified report
that was analyzing a program that used sound frequencies to alter consciousness.
and explore whether the mind could move beyond space and time.
It's an official declassified CIA document known as the gateway process.
Well, that's a funny coincidence.
And everybody online is saying the more they talk about it, the more fragments come back.
We're remembering.
Oh, and there's these dreams.
My dreams are different than what most people say.
Most people have these empty water parks, empty malls, bright places with no people.
my dreams were a little different.
I used to be dead scared of aliens.
One time there was an invasion.
They came down.
They had these big ass eyes.
They were invading Earth.
And they came in my house.
I ran to my kitchen.
I grabbed the fork and I stabbed it in the fucking eye.
And it fucking popped.
And then I woke up.
But I always had this fear of aliens.
And swimming.
I can't swim.
Can't do it.
It's because of this shit.
The fuck they do to us.
The fuck did they do to me.
They were looking for highly intuitive minds.
The pattern secret.
outliers who see the system early, and they were trying to prevent uncontrolled awakening
by shaping those minds before they could break it.
And now we're remembering again.
Absolutely fascinating stuff.
And again, you know, it makes sense.
You don't want intelligent, competent people opposed to you.
So you identify who they are, and either they join you and they get to, you know, explore their
talents or they don't want to join you and you can, you know, find a way to crush them or, you know,
just make sure they never get a good.
job and you know never arise to any level to defeat you sort of terrifying stuff how does this
play into the epstein uh reveals this is what they were doing this is one of the programs that
they were running is social engineering just like galane did read it she was a moderator so i believe
and i was a evidence points that that she was that moderator it's just they're just searing the masses
they're planting seeds they're executing with programs like this so like and and with in 1983 since
the CIA released a gateway process report,
it's the same time that these programs started happening in school.
So the CIA stuff was they were checking,
they were analyzing altered states like auto body experiences and remote viewing.
And they ran these tests for those reasons for the kids,
is why I believe.
And then like programs explore,
everybody is in all the schools.
They called it, you know, gifted and talented.
So if you're, because if you're building a,
control grid, the biggest threat is
not the average person. It's the biggest threat
is the outlier. So
100% this is what they were doing.
The kid whose mind does not lock
into the normal signal,
that kid
who sees patterns
and consensus manipulation is not predictable.
That's a threat to them.
So they said it was just for IQ.
IQ, it's not.
Sorry, that's
sort of terrifying, actually,
if you really think about it. And it's
It sort of shows the lie of their underlying philosophy that they're the superior master race.
It's like, well, you seem terrified of us underlings.
You seem to, you know, terrified that, you know, we ever get power or able to, you know, fully, you know, carry out our will.
They're very scared of that, which you would think is the superior nephalum beings, they wouldn't have to worry about us lowly humans threatening them.
But obviously, we are a giant threat.
Oh, yeah.
Big time. Beaselbub let his successful revolt against the devil and the chief lieutenant of Lucifer,
the emperor of hell and presides over the order of the fly.
This is what they're talking about, I guess.
This is Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein.
And then he makes a crude joke about his fly.
He's just weirdos, man.
Just absolute weirdos.
Your videos are just absolutely mind-blowing.
Again, my guest is Joey Pepperoni.
You can find him on X at Joey Pepperoni with an extra eye on the end.
How else can people find you and support you, sir?
I'm on Instagram as well.
Instagram is my biggest followers I have is on there.
What's your account name on Instagram?
underscore Joey Pepperoni.
Let me double check that though.
But there's a link tree on the X so you can find all of his notes there at Joey
Pepperoni with an extra eye on the end on X.
Thank you so much for being here with us, sir.
Joey Pepperoni making absolutely incredible content revealing the underlying
nephalum-driven Satanism of the Jeffrey Epstein Kavall.
Thank you for being with us, sir.
Thank you so much for having me on, Harrison.
God bless you, and for wars and the audience.
Amen.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
You're watching The Alex Jones Show.
I'm your host Harrison Smith.
We're going to be joined by Mike Lindell momentarily,
but I want to first go to a video that I just,
just swarms the cockles of my heart.
That's a weird saying.
But it does. It fills me with joy to see people having the appropriate reaction to the government being tyrannical scum. Let's go to clip 49. I don't know who this guy is or what he's angry about, but I love him and he's a patriot. And I don't know why we don't all have this energy. Here's a man in a Washington, D.C.,'s capital jersey, just letting the local government have exactly what they deserve. Let's watch.
You let her talk about a non-budget issue first, something to do with robotics or some such.
Now, I wanted to talk first before I talk about budget items, the fact that you denied a disabled veteran access to this meeting this evening
because she didn't have a copy of her driver's license on her.
She gave day to birth.
She's willing to have the police department runner for warrants, background checks, NCIC, sex offender website, all that other great stuff.
So you actually denied access to this disabled veteran this evening because she didn't have a copy of her.
Maryland driver's license on her. I think that's repugnant. I think you people are actually why
we have a constitution is to restrain you sons of the way that you guys violate our First Amendment,
Fourth Amendment civil rights, and 14th Amendment civil rights by treating people differently
based on their viewpoint. So anyway, I really don't have much to say about the budget. I actually
have a legislative prayer, so I'm going to form my statement in the form of a prayer.
Dear Lord, please give this board full of moron.
the wisdom to spend less money on denying veterans access to public meetings
and citizens access to public meetings
and spend more money on disabled children and children that need it.
Please, Lord, allow these forons to stop giving all of our money
to stupid LGBTQ plus programs and pushing the transgender agenda on our students.
Please, Lord, give these idiots a clue.
Mr. Porter.
I'm sorry, you interrupting my press.
The clock has stopped.
For what?
You've been asked before about the decorum in this field.
I'm sorry, my prayer is not subject to your approval, Mr. Rose.
I'm just warning you.
It's a legislative prayer as protected by the First Amendment.
You may continue, but you're being warned.
I'm going to continue with my prayer, sir.
May God have mercy on Dean Rose's soul.
He obviously doesn't have one.
Dear Lord, please protect our children from these monsters
who are trying to convert all of them into being transgender.
Dear Lord, please protect our students from mass shooters who all tend to be transgender.
And dear Lord, please allow these worthless stop pushing transgender ideology on children.
Mr. Porter, you're done.
Thank you.
I'm sorry, you're cutting my speech off.
Yep, you're done.
You stop my prayer because you didn't approve of the words in the prayer.
You're a violation of our policy.
What policy do you have on prayer?
Thank you.
What policy do you have on prayer?
What words are illegal?
You didn't provide a list of words in the prayer.
of words.
You didn't provide a list of words that I can't say before the meeting.
If you'd step away from the podium, please.
No, because it's my turn to speak.
It's my time to speak.
You didn't tell me what words I couldn't say.
You didn't say,
that's enough.
Workless piece of shit.
Tommy State is pig.
Worthless four or sell out to the people,
traitor to the Constitution,
violator civil rights for that of veterans and average everyday Americans.
You are a repugnant pig, sir.
I hope you lose your election.
Excuse me, everyone, please.
Oh, I didn't finish my speech.
Oh, I appreciate it.
I didn't finish.
I was in the middle of a prayer.
You're required to leave.
You required me to leave?
Are you threatening to arrest me if I don't leave the podium and don't finish my prayer here?
I'm asking you to leave.
Okay, great.
Escort me that way because my sh-you're there.
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Oh, is that for safety?
Okay, can we replace Pam Bondi with him?
Look, I don't know who this guy is, but I guarantee you, you put that guy behind the Oval Office desk, you put that guy in Pam Bondi's position, and we'd get some crap done.
We'd get something done.
I would rather have somebody with fire in their heart like him, even if he, you know, pumps gas for a living, he would be better as a ruler than the quizzling scum.
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There's Canadian shopping channel, the QVC, HSN, big companies, not the box store,
yet. And they, at that time, my family's got threats to burn their houses down. I mean, it was
horrific cousins. I didn't even know I had. They're getting threats. This is how much power
a big pharma had, okay? They wanted to, the FDA gotten involved in those, I could name the crooks
there, but I don't have to right now. They got enough people after me. Um, um, and, uh, anyway,
So this battle raged on.
Now, one of the things I can look, well, I'll finish.
So they stop it here in the United States.
So then I make a thing where we're going to go to Israel,
where they had people in hotels over there.
And that's where they were quarantined people.
And we worked to deal with the hospital.
And with Netanyahu, we're going to bring this stuff into Israel.
I'm going to load it up on the ships and bring it over there.
It saved their country.
It got stopped.
Of course, you know, didn't Niak made the dirty deal with Pfizer.
And the rest is history.
They got so many shots there.
They looked like junkies.
And it was sad, so they stopped it there.
Then I know the Philippines, I even know the president, I have senators, Manny Pachiel,
we're going to ship it over to the Philippines.
There's how much power they had.
We got to stop there.
Then the last one was Brazil.
I'm really good friends with President Bolsonaro.
You all know his election got stole too, by the way.
You all know that.
And we were going to give it to the churches up and down the Amazon Christian churches.
It got stopped there.
I never really, my sister called me up and she says, she goes, you have to quit doing that big pharmacy, you're going to lose everything.
And at that time, I'm going, but we've got to save our people's lives.
Yet another attempt by Mike Lindell to rescue people and the country from the grips of evil thwarted once again.
Mike Lindell is, of course, the inventor and CEO of My Pillow and a nationally recognized voice for election, integrity, free speech, and faith-based recovery.
Despite being targeted by lawfare and media mockery, Mike refused to back down, winning major,
legal victories in 2025 that vindicated his efforts.
You can, of course, support him and follow him at lindell TV.com.
And you can also go get a MyPillow at MyPillow.com slash Alex or use the promo code Alex,
and that way you support us and Mr. Lindell as well.
Welcome to the show, sir.
Thanks for having me on.
It's my pleasure.
And, yeah, we just heard about this.
You spent $10 million trying to get a, essentially a cure for COVID out.
But, of course, they were never going to let that happen because if a cure,
existed, then they wouldn't be able to use emergency authorization to get the vaccine across the
board, which is why they so aggressively shut down all attempts to provide ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine,
anything of the sort. But we had no idea that you, you know, were a victim of this.
Right. Just another thing that you've tried to do that they have stopped you. It's got to be
frustrating. Yeah, it was very frustrating. That was, uh, right before we all got putting a lockdown
for the China virus and this guy brought me, this was a supplement.
that worked. And by the way, those $10 million worth of that product, I put in a warehouse in
Minnesota, and it all got outdated. It was just a shame when outdated. Of course, the IRS had
attacked me. They wouldn't even let me take that deduction on my taxes back then because that
particular company wasn't bankrupt, or I wasn't out of business, even though I had lost $10 million.
But I look back here and I say, you know what? It's saved.
a lot of lives. It kept my pillow
open. None of us ever got the China
virus. I was able to give it out, like you
say, even if it saved one live, it was
worth that to me. And it did. Two people
in my own family, their lives were saved
and many others
that we just gave it away. But that's
the power they had. You're right. That they
couldn't use it for emergency use,
the vaccines, if there was something out there that worked.
They did the same thing with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine.
But that was my first, like, nonsense, like, come on, this is, I'm going to give it away.
You know, we, when, you know, I was getting, it was just, it was amazing.
I couldn't believe it.
And then, of course, that was when the, when the attacks started then, the cancel, the cancels to cancel me then.
And the first thing was the Canadian shopping channel, then QVC, and then HSN.
That was the summer of 2020.
The box stores, they were a little behind the times.
They waited until after, I'm holding up my hand saying, hey, we have a stolen election.
We need to get rid of the voting machines, melt them down, turn them into Prismar.
And the January of 2021, when that wave came, they went after all the box stores and all the box stores canceled,
which was their number one product in history.
My pillow was a $60 buy-through from your Walmarts to your Costco's to your coals, bed bathroom beyond,
all of them. They all canceled and
it's just disgusting. It really
is and you just to me represent like an old school
American just what you do is so normal to everybody
like me. It's like you're like oh there's a disease
I know I'm wealthy all all help fund some medicine and then
everybody looks at you like you bastard how dare you it's just like what I sell a
great pillow and they're just like now dare you sell that pillow
It's like, man, you are just like old school Americana that just keeps running up against this tyranny that they're trying to foist on us.
Again, it's got to just be frustrating beyond belief.
Yeah, you know, when you talk about January of 2021, when we had all the evidence for the election crime and that the, from that point on, my pillow has been the number, the most attack company in the history of the world.
Nothing's even close, everybody.
They've done everything to silence me.
And what they did, back then, they actually came to me.
This was, it was, this guy's way high up in government.
And he came to me, it was part of the Secret Service actually, came to Minnesota, and he said, Mike, they can't get you.
The media and stuff can't attack you going backwards because you've already said you're a crack, you were a crack addict.
And you're already full disclosure.
You're not going to find anything.
my past to shame me in the media, right? And then he said, they're not going to find going forward.
Everybody knew who you were, this philanthropist, this person, getting people to Jesus,
this person that pouring out when I quit crack cocaine in January 16, 2009. After that,
my pillow gave, and myself, we gave millions of dollars to your teen challenges, your salvation
armies, your hurricane victims. Wherever there was a tragedy in the country, I was there,
my pillow was there to throw millions at it.
And so he said, they're not going to be able to get you going forward because they're going to go,
oh, that's just because he backs the greatest president Donald Trump ever, right?
That's what this guy told me.
He said, what they're going to do to you, Mike, is they're either going to pull up in two vans
and you're going to disappear or on the other thing, they're going to attack your businesses and
your money and they're going to just bankrupt you until you show you shut up.
Well, you know, fortunately for me, they at least took the one of bankrupting me and attacked that rather than kill me.
They probably wish they were to kill me, Harrison, you know, looking back on it, right?
But I'm going to tell everybody, you know what they said?
What they said back in May of this, of last year, when I went to my first big, I pushed my machine trials, all the, my law fair, all the way to trial.
We went to trial in May in Crooked, Colorado, and we get out there and the judge let their traitor attorney, that's what they were suing me for, is because I called them traitors, right?
Traders to the United States and traitors, I think I said, part of the biggest cover-up or the biggest crime man I'd ever seen.
So anyway, here's what he said to the jury, everybody, his closing statements.
He goes, now we all know Mike Lindell had a net worth of over $100 million four years ago.
And now we know it's minus 10 million.
But we're asking you, the jury, we're asking you to give us $60 million for what he said about us.
And if it bankrupts my pillow and Mike Lindell, so be it.
We send a message to the country that you do not question our elections and put out disinformation
like Mike Lindell.
And the judge let him say this.
You can't make it up.
I mean, I wish I could say I was surprised,
but clearly they have a playbook that they like running.
They ran it against us.
They're running it against you.
I know you've been the victim of the, you know,
just automatic, you know, they give the victory to the other side
without you even able to defend yourself.
And of course, you know, they might not have killed you,
but they did arrest you, right?
They seized your phone and have...
No, no, they never, I've never got arrested.
everybody. They did take my phone. Here's another thing that happened. So as the machine companies
with law fair, you know, like you say, when the president did all that pardons, I didn't have to
get pardoned. I never did anything wrong. But here's what happened, everybody. You had two years of the
machine companies, the law fair, Mike Lindell and my pillow sued for $2.3 billion with a B, everybody.
and then in January of 2022, all of a sudden I was debanked, out of the blue, debanked, and you guys could look it up.
And things started happening that were unexplainable.
My vendors calling me up and going, we can no longer do business with you.
I go, why?
Why?
Well, here's what happened.
It's called Arctic Frost, Operation Arctic Frost.
And this was our own government.
The FBI, the DOJ, Jack Smith, and the IRS, and three other entities went after over 100 individuals,
nine senators, Charlie Kirk Turning Point, and one company, ready everybody, my pillow.
So they attacked my pillow, our own government.
And one day I wake up, we're taking your merchant server, my merchant server lets us know my email.
We're going to hold $5 million.
I'm going, what?
And what mean you're going to hold $5 million?
Your PayPal's of the world.
We're going to hold $2 million.
You've got vendors that said we couldn't do it.
Then we find out later they got email or they got direct contacts from our own government to shut Mike Lindell and my pillow down.
Now when I got what you're talking about, so here I am at a Hardy's restaurant in September of 2022, surrounded by cars.
And we were coming back from a hunt trip.
I told my buddy, I said something's going down.
And these weren't cars like you see the FBI would traditionally use, right?
These are beat up things that look like, you know, like mobsters or something, right?
I mean, it could be, if this would have happened at night, I would have bashed room,
I would have been a high-speed chase that I would have been looking for a real cop.
But I stuck my head out and I said, who are you and what do you want?
The guy goes, we're FBI.
And I said, I don't believe you.
Show me a badge and he flips one out.
I go, I don't, I don't, I said, show me your badge.
another there was like five FBI guys and three vehicles were boxed in he shows me his badge they go well bad guys probably want to all carry FBI badges right so power in numbers so we pull over and and they were two hours later because I'm showing them out in the park lot I'm wanting to get arrested I wanted to get arrested to go on Fox News to be able to speak out about the election platform because they're such cowards of Fox News and news matches stuff that won't speak out about our election and to this day
day, everybody. Right now, with all the great things the president is pouring out about our elections
like Georgia, the thing in Georgia and all these other things that are coming out, Smartmatic
getting tried for crimes against countries for their crooked machine. Venezuela, what went on
the fifth in Venezuela was SmartMatic. Have you heard anything on Fox News or Newsmax? No, you don't.
It's disgusting. But you know what? Our voice.
is bigger now than it ever is everybody and because of all the social media platforms and great
podcasts like you guys had info wars and they but they tried to silence our voice and it didn't work
we're not going down our voice is bigger now than ever yeah i was going to say i haven't seen on
fox news because i don't watch fox news every time you're never going to see anything on
there you're not going to see on those what law fair did you can call it oh law fair we we swore we
never badmouthed the machines again.
But you guys, all this hope coming out, you can certainly report stuff that's coming out
from its news.
Hey, there's, yep, yep, Mike was right, or yes, we were all right.
There was theft in Georgia.
Donald Trump really won Georgia.
Oh, yes, right.
By the way, Donald Trump really won Arizona.
By the way, Donald Trump really won Wisconsin.
By the way, Pennsylvania did have more votes than voters.
But it's not just about that election.
And it's all the elections.
We've got to secure our election platforms.
That's one of the reasons, you know, when I look back, I think we have enough stuff in place now.
And then I look at Minnesota when I'm there.
And I'm going, that's one of the reasons I'm running for governor is we've got to take back there.
Take back.
Like Minnesota is like the Trojan horse for something else that's so bad.
And that's Sharia law.
But we've got, there's another because they say, Mike, why are you running for government?
when you say we got to get rid of the voting machine.
There's a lot of places we've gotten rid of them,
but you have to kind of too big to rig,
like the president did in 2024.
And we've got a great plan to win,
and I'll plug myself right now.
It's Mikelindalegov.com, everybody,
Mikelindelgov.com.
I'm down here.
I've been down here Marilago.
I've been in Florida here for about a week.
We're doing events to raise money,
because Minnesota is in the public eye right now more than ever in history.
You guys, it's not just the Somalian fraud, isn't just in Minnesota.
These welfare things have been all across the country.
It's all going to get opened up.
Right now, all the protesters, that's just a cover up.
They're just trying to keep this out of the news, but you know what?
We're not going to let it go out of the news.
They're all criminals up there from the governor to Elon Omar.
Where did Elon Omar go from 65,000 net worth to 65 million?
Come on, in four years.
Did she take the money that I spent that I spent on helping our country?
You know, come on.
It's disgusting.
Keith Ellison, the Attorney General up here, another, just criminal, criminal, criminal.
And I said these things are great here.
This is the biggest blessing we have right now is Minnesota,
because it's going to open everybody's eyes up to what's,
what we were getting billions of dollars just there, but like our president said, you wait until
we start checking into other states. And you better wake up everybody because Sharia law,
they're here to take over our country. And you look at Texas, all these moths that went up in
Texas. And it's disgusting. It is. I mean, we're being taken over in a million different ways.
And I actually have a great video from Josh Hawley talking about the level of fraud that we face,
because you're right. I mean, the Somali thing is the tip of the tip of the,
the tip of the iceberg and it's happening in every state.
It's just insane. Of course, you know, Ilhan Omar is just the, the dark shadow inversion of you,
somebody that's never made a company, never built anything, and just takes taxpayer money to
themselves, unlike you, who actually builds a company, employs people, and gives your money
away. It's like, you know, could not be a greater comparison. But I guess my question is, when do we
get justice for all of this? Because my pillow survived, Mike Lindell survived, InfoWords is surviving,
but like they can't get away with what they've done to us.
It seems like we are almost in this mindset that like as long as they don't kill us,
then we've kind of won.
But it's like, no, for years they've been abusing you.
They've been taking advantage of the laws to tyrannize you.
Like when do we get justice for some of this stuff?
Well, Operation Arctic Frost, everybody, that was brought public by this last summer
by the senators that were attacked.
And we hope our government, the stuff that's going on there.
Now we put our, we put our thing in.
We had to show, I sent it in, the damage it did to my pillow was to the tune of $200 million that was turned in.
And this is all going to be, you know, everyone that was on that list got hurt so bad and by our own government.
But all these things when you're talking about and then I say, well, who exactly did this for you guys?
This is so big.
It's the Uniparty, the globalist, the deep state, the CCP.
I don't even know how they stay organized.
It's basically pure evil.
And, you know, all we can say is that, you know, the, I know
justice is coming and, you know, it's like people say, well, well, you know,
you can't believe you didn't give up.
I mean, don't you feel like giving up, you know, like Alex, myself, you know,
you don't give up.
We are winning.
We are actually winning because it's all getting exposed.
Everything's getting exposed.
And I believe that there will be an end here and you look back and it'll all be, I always have to say, well, it's not on our timing, it's on God's timing.
I'm not a patient person, Harrison.
If you look up patients, you don't see a picture of me there, right?
But I've had to learn that because a lot of this might be God's timing or God's will.
And you really need, we needed these last, I said it many times if Donald Trump would have been put in back in December of 2020 or even if you, or even a.
January 6th up that they put him back in.
We would have lost our country forever.
It's not even a question, everybody.
They would have sat back, fought him, and just
let those years run out, and boom,
it's right back, it's over. But we had
the blessing of the stolen election that was
so obvious that we never gave up,
we got the word out, and then we had four
years of complete craziness.
Men and women's sports
and in Minnesota tampons in the men's
bathroom, just stuff.
You go, what? I mean,
the stuff that they put, that they put
out there was evil is so greedy. And then they're ruining the economy, letting people pour in.
Remember, the first day in office, they shut down the pipeline. Fifty thousand people lost
their jobs, that pipeline. And 13 committed suicide, but you raise the price of gas, let the
illegals in, kill everybody with fentanyl, and it's over. But you know what? We've seen what
was happening these last four years. And that was a good thing, everybody, because we got,
it opened people's eyes. It's open, it opened people's eyes. It's a pile into this of common sense.
And I'm not talking to the Republican Party. I mean, I have more blocks over there with the
uniparty Republicans, a red state than you could ever imagine. States like Alabama, Arkansas,
Arkansas, with Kim, I mean, with Sarah Sanders blocking us there trying to get secure election.
shame on you, Sarah, and Louisiana, South Dakota.
You're going, what, Mike?
What are you kidding me?
No, we had more, we had more, we had more headway in California with you when you talk to these platforms.
But all I'm saying is all these bad things that people had to see happen to get their eyes open so we can get to a great place that we're going to get to.
And now, for me, for me, my number one thing is let's secure our elections.
We can get to all these people to get prosecuted for all the crimes they committed.
But we need to secure our elections.
Like the president put out the safe, oh my gosh, I got a mind block here.
The safe act.
Yeah, yeah.
The safe act.
Yeah, the safe act.
You guys, that's so important right now.
They're going, well, Mike, the machines are still here.
No, this is, we need this part.
We need anything we can get to get our elections secure.
If we don't have secure elections, then they're thinking of everybody, if we lose these midterms, if they steal it, it's over.
Everything we've done will be in vain.
Everything we have done will be in vain.
All right, great president has done.
This is that, you know, this is where we're at, but we're in a great place because we have a voice now, our voice to get the word out, to get the word out.
And so I'm very, I've got to be patient.
That's a long answer to your question.
When are people going to get prosecuted?
You know, it took him two years to build up fake information against our president to go after him.
You want to make sure you got everything in place to prosecute when you do that.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, I'm as impatient as anyone, but we're going to get there.
But you're not giving up hope, and that's the important part.
I think impatience is a virtue here.
We're going to get into more of this with Mike Lindell on the other side.
Stay with us, folks.
I've been saying, I think, you know, Trump's not enough.
We need to back him up with governors and congressmen and senators.
And Mike Lindell should be top of that list.
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Hey, we got to do this over here.
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But so last summer, when I told our president, I said,
I'm thinking of running for Minnesota governor.
But I told him, I said,
I'm not going to be comfortable until I know my pillow is safe, that they can go,
hey, you guys, if they're secure, my employees, and it didn't happen.
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because all the boycotts in the box stores and everything else, but we're here to stay.
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I just to run, we got to win it.
And people said, I went on CBS the other morning in Minnesota, CBS Sunday morning.
There it is, everybody, Mikelindelgov.com, please help out.
That's the only thing I said, I don't, you know, the money, we need money.
I've got a great campaign that we're going to be doing.
We got, it involves half-hour infomercials to educate people and what I'm going to be doing.
I'm using something I used when I campaigned with the president that I use then.
Imagine a half-hour infomercial where you have people, like say, in the inner city going,
here's why I'm voting for Mike Lindell.
And then they formally voted Democrat.
They do that.
And now you air this and you educate their friends and this stuff.
Wow, they're hearing it from their friends.
There is a better way.
And it works.
It's amazing.
But I'm telling you, the, once, you know, I had to be 100% all in where my pillow is over here safe.
And I've gotten to that point, and I'm going to tell everybody, when I went out CBS, she said she attacked me.
And she goes, well, Mike, isn't my pillow bankrupt?
I'm going, who told you that?
Yourself?
I said, you guys put out this false narrative?
No, we're still standing in spite of.
being attacked. I was able to guide them as a CEO to guide them through problems that you can't
even imagine, which is a good thing. Running for government, having a businessman that knows how,
in all diversity, how to stay there and keep and fix things as you go, not just one thing.
They said to me at one of the debates, Mike, what's one of the first things you're going to do?
I said, I'm going to do it all, just like our great president does. He's the most multitasker I've
ever seen when I spend time with them. It's unbelievable. It's like,
What? I mean, but you do it all.
But I will say this on the first day, I'm going to ban Sharia law, bring back our great Minnesota flag, and take the statue out of our capital.
They put in a satanic statue that sit in there someplace.
And our governor said, we've got to be fair.
Fair to who is?
Fair to Satan?
It was disgusting.
Fair to the devil?
I mean, this stuff is just crazy.
Well, I mean, but they, but no, the, I'm going to.
And then the other thing she said at CBS, this will interest you all.
She goes, she says, well, Mike, you know, you lost $5 million on the evidence challenge that came out of one of your events.
And I said, no, the Eighth Circuit in Minneapolis, in Minnesota overturned that and said, Mike was right.
His evidence is true.
It was all true.
And she goes, well, I don't believe that.
I said, well, you didn't do your due Dillins.
It was a lie, you know.
She aired it live.
and she had to embarrass them that they didn't do their due diligence to say,
you know, hey, here's what came out.
You know why she didn't know?
Because when things come out that are good, nobody talks about it for the media.
They don't talk about the good things that happen.
And neither does Fox News or News match when it comes to election.
So anyway, I got to throw that in there because it's a, I just can't stand that when we need to hear hope everybody.
and there is so much hope going on.
But, yeah.
Absolutely.
You know, in Minnesota, I'll just give an example.
In Minnesota, 250,000 people voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
They didn't even bother to get out and vote in 2022.
You got everybody out there, you guys, this election coming up is the most important
in history of a midterm election.
You know, there's nothing even close.
We can't have all these good things just be in vain.
And I'm talking about every one of you out there in every state.
And what can you all do?
You know what?
You get out there and you tell your friends, your family, your friends, everybody just going,
tell them how important this is and everybody needs to get educated wherever you're at.
This crime and these election crime is in every state.
It's right in your back door.
What we have to get to.
The Save Act is so important right now.
You need to get, if you know, anybody there, everyone's got a voice.
Send their opinion in.
put it on social media. We all want this. They did a poll.
79% of Democrats want this passed. Did you know that?
I don't, you know, it's a big thing. Everybody wants secure elections. The only ones that don't
want secure elections are the uniparty deep state globalists that are trying to steal our country
without firing a shot. This is where we're at. Everybody, you know, Amy Klobuchar,
who I'm running against in Minnesota, Amy Klobuchar, this powerful Democrat, right, that's
the way that she was under her watch this all this fraud happened but she was the most
voiceless person ever of a democrat going we got to get three four machine companies control
our election we've got to get rid of them and she named them in the movie kill chain but you know
what she didn't get sued did she she didn't get sued but but then her voice fell flat on that
all of a sudden she's okay with that he's okay with these machines all of a sudden you know what i was
looking forward. You've got to ask yourself, everybody, isn't it strange that Donald Trump
wins this last election in 2024? And none of the people on the left complain and said,
hey, maybe there's rigging going on or computer problems? I was looking forward to that going,
maybe they'll have a bigger voice to say, hey, let's open up those machines and see if this
really happened. Never works that way. It never works that way. It doesn't work that way.
There's old Amy corrupt Amy Klobuchar sitting that, you know, all this stuff happened on her watch.
Yeah.
And when I say corrupt, you know, it's subjective right now, but there's a lot of things that have been brought up about her.
We don't know how much is true or not, but I will tell you this, for some reason, she went silent on the voting machines and she was such a, you know, pushing them out there.
So, but Minnesota, I think you're going to find out with Amy.
I mean, there's many, many, many, many, there's so much evidence out there where there was emails and stuff that Amy knew about the fraud.
So is that, are you promoting corruption when you know about it and you don't do anything?
I think you are.
Absolutely.
And we even had people I'm running against Harrison that, uh, in Minnesota.
the Speaker of the House that I'm running on the Republican side, she's been there, I don't know, a couple years, but as we're doing these governor debates, she's, you know, she's bragging that, well, I did this fraud thing, you know, I looked in, I checked this, you know, we set up this thing back in two years ago. Well, good for you, special, okay?
$18 billion is missing. 18 billion is missing. And you, you, what, you didn't, you didn't raise your hand and go, hey, hey,
there's fraud here.
You know, you're telling us now on a stage that you were there and you,
and you tried to do it.
It doesn't matter what you do if you don't get the word out and get the people knowing about it.
One of the things I will tell you, everybody, you help me out with this,
my, my, with Mike and Mikelindalgov.com.
I'll tell you, I will be the most transparent, loudest governor this country has ever seen.
Just like our president.
Just like you're breaking news.
He gets out of a meeting with Netanyahu, and we know it.
right away. What happened? Where is it going? That people need to know what our government is doing.
And you have a transfer of governor or government. I'll tell our president, I'm telling you,
when I'm president or when I'm governor of Minnesota, people go, well, what do you, you know,
well, how are you going to take care of this fraud? Well, I'll tell you one thing, to get stuff done,
even though even though you might have the Republicans or Democrats, whatever it is in their party,
I'm not a politician. I'm a businessman. I'll tell you what, when I'm getting blocked,
I get a phone call.
Hey, we're getting blocked over here in sector three.
I'll get on that phone and get it unblocked, and I'll tell you, we get blocked by things.
I'll be right out there going, giving their names out.
Hey, you guys, we got this thing going on here, and they're going to put tampons in the bathrooms in here.
And this person wants to do it, too.
You're going to know their names of people that come up with this craziness.
I mean, this is bizarre.
You know, you need, you need, you need.
transparency to the public going, otherwise you sit back and go, how did this ever happen?
You know?
You know, I got to say, even if I disagreed with you politically, which I obviously don't,
but like somebody like you is who needs to run the state.
I just cannot believe that anybody would not trust you to say the bad things going on.
I mean, clearly you have made a career out of this.
I would think you could put you in charge of a state and the corruption would actually disappear
because you wouldn't stand for it.
And even if I didn't agree with you politically,
I would trust you to actually take care of that.
Absolutely.
And you guys, you know, everybody, I fought for, you know,
I'd been in the streets with no,
eaten with no forks or all the way up the ladder.
From one extreme to another.
And, you know, when I was after all this election fraud and crime,
all over this country, I put in 750 hours when I did have my plane before I just sell it.
750 hours in 12 months with four pilots and I wore them out.
They couldn't keep up.
We're landing here and going in here and telling these politicians.
But one of the things you need to know is I didn't just go for Republicans or whatever.
How about in Georgia this nice lady that got three Democrats ran.
And she got zero votes in her own precinct.
Zero votes.
If they had to give her three for her daughter and her husband and herself,
the day and age we're living in now they'd have said i'm sorry ma'am nobody loves you but your family
but instead they had to open up they actually had to look into machines corrupt brad rassenberger
down there the republican secretary of state one of the biggest traders this country's ever seen in history
he opens it up oh yeah yeah it was a programming error why are you programming our elections you know
i mean so this is where now we have we have a platform we have voices and it maybe things
Things would finally get done because things get tied up in politics.
Oh, yeah, we're going to vote on a day.
Oh, well, we're on a break.
We're going to take a break for a month and a half.
No, you're not.
You're going to get back in there and get to work.
The people are working for the people.
It's disgusting.
Get in there and get this nonsensical thing.
Don't you people have families?
Don't you people have relatives that want to live, have good lives while we're still here before we go to heaven?
You guys are, what's wrong with you?
You've got to call these people out.
It's just nuts.
Absolutely.
And a lot of them are out of fear, out of fear.
You know, these politicians that are in there, when you're making, they asked me the other
day in Minnesota or when it was debates, well, Mike, you know, you better lighten you're
up about abortion or whatever.
I'm going, I'm going, I'm pro-life, I'm a born-again Christian, and I'm not changing
just to get some crazy votes on the left.
It ain't happening.
What in the heck is that?
I'm going, okay, I'll go softer.
How do you go softer?
You half-killab baby?
It's unbelievable, you know.
Well, I'm right in the middle here, you know.
I mean, it's bizarre.
There's not a lot.
There's not a lot hidden with you.
It's all right out there in the open.
I don't know how people don't want that.
Absolutely.
That's what we need.
You know, absolutely, you know.
Coming in just said, you know, five years ago,
you couldn't say, oh, ban Sharia law in Minnesota,
all these Somalians that have come in.
That's even the bigger problem than all the billions.
The billions they sold is a, is a great.
because it's, now we can say, hey, we got a bigger problem.
Ban Sharia law.
We shouldn't have our governor, shouldn't have our mosque and ringing bells from
Minneapolis keeping everybody awake on some call to holl or whatever it is.
And when he closes the Christian churches during the China virus, it's disgusting.
And these guys take it over.
They're not assimulating here.
They're getting in our classrooms in Minnesota.
And someone don't even speak English.
And you can't discipline anymore if the students doing bad because that's not right.
So all the rest is doing supper.
And this is, if you can't come here and here's what happens, you take all the, all the ones that come into this crime, you put them in prison.
Then you over here, you take all the ones that have overseed their visas or he'll, boom, you ship them out.
And whenever it's left, you better assimilate here and love our country.
And there are some.
I met some that they're here that are here legally and they're working, they're hardworking.
But they're assimilated.
They're not covering it up and they're not doing all this craziness and telling us that they got to, you know, shut down your working lines and your business.
Let's shut down and just everybody five times a day to go do what your religion said.
What if I had a religion and said everybody for five hours at exactly three o'clock, you're going to shut down everything and nobody does a thing.
You can't even put gas in your car.
That's crazy, you know.
Or if I, you know, our religion says, you know, there's one of the three things.
of religion, but let's not forget, we're
one nation under God and that God
is Jesus Christ. Amen.
I completely
agree. So what are you going to do? I mean,
Minnesota has become like a
byword for corruption at this point.
I mean, Amy Klobuchar is one thing, but then you get
into Keith Ellison and
the governor, of course,
now Tim Walls, who isn't even running again
because he's so embarrassed at the failure
he represents. So, I mean, what do you even
do to whip that state back into shape,
man? It is gone. And Glenn
and Glenn Frye, the corrupt mayor
of Minneapolis. Here's what I'm going to do, everybody.
And let me tell you this.
So let's start with Minneapolis.
Okay, we'll start with the inner city.
You enforce, you bring back law enforcement,
and you enforce the protester laws that are already there.
Minneapolis has some of the best protester laws ever.
You can't stop people on a sidewalk.
You certainly can't stand in the middle of a highway and block off the highway.
You arrest him.
Gross misdemeanor.
You do it again, a felony.
That's it.
You enforce them.
Now you bring back the safety, you bring back law enforcement.
Now, the other day in Portland, this gal was walking through Portland and goes,
this is now the safest city in the world.
You know why?
Nobody's downtown.
It's empty.
It's a ghost town.
Just like Minneapolis and a lot of other places they'll become.
Here's the next thing you do.
You take these welfare programs, okay?
This is my wheelhouse.
I've worked in Minneapolis and St. Paul and Rochester and Detroit for 17 years.
years. I have a beautiful program for these. You first check them all out, you see which one,
really do it, give a good return on your best. Let's not forget of all the people that that money
was allotted for, right, that do need help. And you have an end game. But we set up a thing,
it's almost like a give, send goal. I set this platform up probably 10 years ago now, and we
use private sector money, and we tested it in Detroit. People want to give in the private sector,
but they want to give to certain things that they're partial to, whether it be addiction or whatever.
And we worked with the teen challenges, the Salvation Army and Union Gospels.
But anyway, we did this.
It saved 46% or 44% of the money that would have normally cost the government.
Now, I was the government.
I put my money around it.
But if you didn't have that private sector money, you would have had all this more expenses.
So I'm going to install that downtown.
I'm going to also do another thing.
We get people off the street.
It was another thing that was done by Ben Carson,
but it got shut down before the China virus
when he was the Secretary of HUD.
And it's an amazing thing where you pull the people off the streets.
You've got addict, you put them on federal ground,
and you've got the addicts that now you get them the help they need,
and your teen challenges, your Salvation Armies,
you get them the help they need, the faith-based centers.
Then you have the people that have mental problems.
They were all our mentalists,
were shut down in the early 1970s because of a movie called One Flew Over to Cuckoo's Nass.
When that came out, everybody said, go back to your families. We don't want these centers.
Well, we need them back because there's over 20 million people in the streets that have mental problems.
And our president just two weeks ago said, hey, we need to bring them back.
And then you get those people help they need.
We have modern help to help them.
Then you got the other ones that are just out there homeless and just not working.
There's a way to get them jobs.
So now you do that.
Now, here's the next thing.
I'm going to completely ban or take away sales tax in Minnesota.
No more sales tax.
You need to bring people an incentive to go in the box stores and go into these small businesses
where they don't have to pay sales taxes.
They're competing with Amazon and my pillow online, right?
So you can pay higher sales tax up here and you eliminate the sales tax at that level.
We've got to get people off their phones and get them back to.
into these stores because
that's what keeps our economy going.
And if you lose that piece
that people are forgetting, that's a huge piece
everybody. The schools
in Minnesota, they're all bonded.
They get bonded and it's a big Ponzi
scheme. Then they put up more bonds.
And when they run on money there, they raise your
property taxes. That's the way in a lot of states.
This has to be looked at
big time and fixed.
And I have a fix
for that. You do that. It's like looking at each
sector of a business. Get that property
taxes eliminated or at least
down. And by the time
the programs I'm putting in that I already have
access to, and let's not forget, I have
federal access to our current government.
I know everybody. They're on my phone.
I don't care. You name one person in
government there and I've got connections
for their help where we work together
with our federal government. You don't
push them back. You work together.
So you guys, it's Mikelindelgov.com.
I can use your help
right now because I'm not
waiting for primaries and
stop being. Who's going to win of the
Republican? By the way, I'm
polling number one
with the Republicans. Just came out two days
before I got here in Marilago.
You guys, go
out there, my pill,
Mikelindelgub.com
and support me. You've got to support
this, man. The state of Minnesota
is sort of on his last legs.
I think he's got the plan to bring it back.
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A single email unearthed from the sprawling Jeffrey Epstein document dumps has sent shockwaves through anyone paying attention.
In 2003 investigative journalist Edward J. Epstein, no relation to Jeffrey but a longtime chronicler of espionage, cover-ups, and institutional deceit.
Edward Epstein reached out directly to Galane Maxwell with the casual yet loaded invitation.
Any interest in joining a proposed Shadow Commission on 9-11?
This wasn't some random outreach.
The former Harvard professor was floating the idea of an alternative inquiry into the attacks,
one presumably free from the constraints and compromises that plagued the official 9-11 commission.
What diminishes the idea of a conspiracy in my mind is not that one can't think of a good reason why one couldn't put a conspiracy together.
But it's the passage of time.
One has to take that into their reckoning as we covered, you know, decade after decade.
Maxwell's inclusion on the invite list speaks volumes about the overlapping circles of power, influence.
and potential blackmail that Epstein's operation allegedly cultivated.
Why would a man known for dissecting government whitewashes
think the partner of Jeffrey Epstein belonged on such a panel?
The official 9-11 commission report released in 2004
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rather than unvarnished accountability,
glaring omissions like the collapse of the World Trade Center Building 7
ignored Saudi connections to the hijackers,
eyewitness accounts of bombs by Barry Jennings and World Trade Center 7.
Now, Barry Jennings, you're on the eighth floor,
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Explain to me the moment of impact.
Well, me and Mr. Hess, the Corporation Council,
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We started walking down the stairs.
We made it to the eighth floor.
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Lewis back into the eighth floor.
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We're not going to make it out of here.
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Receiving a phone call from his superior, Jennings was warned to leave the building immediately.
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After seven years of investigation, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST, determined that the building had not come down due to explosives or controlled demolition, as many alleged, or due to structural damage from the collapse of the twin towers, an explosion in the building's fuel oil systems, or any of the other suggestions that had been put forward and retracted by NIST over the course of its investigation.
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If it's a act of war and it's hiding things, which everyone on your commission knew that the Pentagon was changing their stories lying to you,
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So unless we get to the very bottom of it, then we're still talking treasonous exposition.
This is a longer conversation.
I'm not sure you have, and this would he ever get to the bottom of it?
We have to.
Or we can't save our countries.
I don't think, well, if that's the condition upon which we're going to be saving our country, I don't know.
There's a problem.
It's a 30-year-old conspiracy.
The reports focus on systematic issues conveniently sidestepped naming names like Larry Silverstone.
I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they're going to be able to contain the fire.
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Great to be back. And you know what? Just like you guys, the reason I can be honest is because
I don't have to report to a massive corporate structure either. Funny how that works being
independent. Isn't that nice? And it's no wonder that the powers that be want everybody to be under
the yoke of one corporation or government or something. They really hate independent people
who are sort of self-supporting as you are. So tell us the latest from Rasputin. What are the
polls saying, how are we doing out there? Yeah, I just want to preface all this. And it is, you know,
the system that attacks people who tell the truth. But it's also people who are sort of like
emotionally thinkers, you know, weak-willed, unable to deal with reality. And I deal with reality.
I'm not a Republican cheerleader.
I'm an independent pollster, and I put out commentary, but it's all based on numbers.
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And it's just wild how many people just in the last week thought that somehow they could call me a sellout
or they could say, I've lost the plot, where they could all of a sudden decide to switch over to a mainstream media pollster
in order to, like, avoid the truth that I'm telling.
And the truth is, is that what Donald Trump did in the last week was like flashing red warning sirens bad for his polling, like very, very, very bad.
His job approval rating got down to 41 percent, and it went back up to 45 percent.
It happened over a course of a couple of days, and it almost exactly lines up with Google search trend volume for the term Epstein, which is now being searched five, six, seven times more than it's ever has in history.
the word Epstein was searched more than the 2022 Winter Olympics, the entire period when it was going on.
This is not something that Donald Trump's just going to be able to sweep under the rug.
It's a cultural touchstone moment.
This is the youth zeitgeist.
And it's one of the reasons that Trump got elected a blowback for a system that is broken overreach of the Biden administration,
the fact that there's a two-tiered system of justice and people like don't think that they're betters
are held criminally accountable for literally anything.
And does everybody think that way? No, like, there's people really happy today about the jobs report.
And they're like, you know what? We're going to win. And it's like maybe, but I can tell you right now, I don't think you are. So even at a 45% job approval rating, that puts Donald Trump barely like in Joe Biden territory. But the Democrat lead on the generic ballot is up to six points right now.
Wow.
And I really think that that overestimates a potential Republican turnout because we're in a period where people don't necessarily change party as much.
I think it's more driven, especially for low propensity voters, on enthusiasm.
And if Donald Trump looks like he doesn't understand why he got elected, there's going to be a real enthusiasm problem that might not even show up in my polling.
And it all comes back to Epstein, which I'm sorry.
Like, I'm sorry the way they're dealing with it now seems a little bit like a betrayal.
It just does.
And I don't think that they can make it go away.
You use softer words than I do, sir.
I think it's absolutely a betrayal.
And it's a ridiculous, like, absurd betrayal.
It's not even like, oh, wow, they're evil.
It's like, what are they even doing?
It doesn't even make, you know, at least if you get betrayed and you see Judas walk off with the 30 pieces of silver,
you go, okay, he got something from this.
But they're betraying us, and they're just screwing themselves in the process.
so it makes even less sense than a typical betrayal.
Yeah.
But, you know, we played the clip earlier today.
Pam Bondi's asked about why they aren't going after Epstein's co-conspirators,
and her response is the Dow's up 40,000 points.
And it's like, it's almost the perfect, you know, microcosm of what's wrong with the Trump administration.
There's no economic, you know, first of all, the economy's not as good as they say.
The stock market's not reflective of our conditions on the ground.
So that doesn't even count.
But it doesn't matter how good the stock market is.
if you've got a bunch of pedophile rapists running around controlling the world.
So, like, what is wrong with it?
Why is that message not getting through to Trump, do you think?
Well, you know, I tried to get that message through.
As you know, as Alex know, they invited me down in the White House and I talk to them.
And also, I was screaming all the way back at the beginning of Epstein.
And people might not, like, really understand the depth of why this is a betrayal.
And it all comes down to leadership.
Now, you talked about the economy, and we've had this, like,
formant of economy where everybody in the past has been able to focus on things like the Dow Jones or the
GDP number feel good that the president's doing a good job. But because we have this late stage
capital, global homo kleptocracy, you know, corporatism system that squeezed all of the rent out of
the middle class and shipped all the jobs overseas, you increasingly have all of the wealth
concentrated at the top in a way where most people don't have stocks. And, you know, people said that
this was a reference, like they wanted Trump because of the economy.
They say rise in prices was a number one issue.
But if you look into the polling, the polling actually says, well, there's deeper problems.
There's a lack fundamentally of trust in the federal government, only 30% trust in the federal
government, like existential things like the, are you better off than you were four years
ago numbers?
We're the lowest we've ever seen.
People don't think today's children will be better off than their future.
So they wanted Trump for the economy, but when he said things like retribution and drain
the swamp like I will fight for you like these are the things that really resonated they wanted
a systematic reformer and so Donald Trump got in and I just I think it's objectively fair to say that we're
not seeing somebody that's attacking the system and when he did when he did doge doge was super
popular and his job approval rating was super high with the under 40 voters he got up that 60% what is the
under 40 approval rating right now as of last Friday it was 34%. So he went from 60 to 34%.
and that's not bad.
And it's because he's, again, fundamentally betraying, in my opinion, the, like, values that he ran on.
And so, for instance, if you look at Epstein, somebody could say, nobody cares about Epstein.
Well, that's wrong.
They objectively do.
They're searching for it all over the place.
But why is Epstein important?
Well, because Americans crave fairness and a two-tiered system of justice is one of the least popular things we've ever pulled on.
95% of America thinks it's important that your elected leaders be held to the same standard of account as everybody else.
And so this is the most egregious example we ever could have seen that, yes, the system is in many ways profoundly rotten.
And yes, these people will all skate.
And the first time I really started screaming, I did it on Alex's show.
He gave me like an hour.
And we went into the field after Pan Bondi said case closed.
And it's like, no, only 16% say the case is closed.
68% of America says there's dozens of powerful and wealthy offenders who need to face justice.
and it was a completely bipartisan signal.
So if you want to get Democrat and independent votes,
you have to understand that they think this is what's going on.
And you can't make a magic wand and change these people's mind.
Brew forcing public opinion is really, really hard.
It takes a lot of effort.
And so for them to say, oh, we're moving on.
America's like, no, no, we're not.
We haven't dropped this yet.
They still think, and maybe there isn't.
Maybe magically nothing illegal or evil or demonic happened down there.
Maybe that's the case.
But then they have to make that case.
And we're seeing it over and over and over again.
Donald Trump not sounding like he did when he ran.
Look at Cash Patel.
He's going to shut down the FBI and make the Herbert Hoover building a museum of the deep state.
And then he gets in and objectively, that did not happen.
It's like, okay, well, maybe that's good.
Maybe that's bad.
Well, the polling says it's very bad.
Trump voters do not trust the FBI.
In fact, they trust it even less.
And we see this.
The polling explains why people see what the FBI did.
with the Charlie Kirk stuff.
They see what the FBI is doing here and the redactions.
And they're like, this stinks.
It's even worse.
Like now the system is being allowed to continue.
And the curtain is being rolled back more and more every day.
So the temperature of the pot of water that the frog is in continues to increase unabated.
And you could say, well, like Mark, you're not focusing on the right things.
And why don't you talk about his jobs number?
Okay, we'll see if the job number changes the polling.
But this better off question, I think, this is our story today, I think it's very important to point out.
And it's like, yes, Joe Biden was a bad president.
Objectively bad, he did bad things.
It was bad for America.
Yes.
But when America tells you that Donald Trump is a worse president than Biden, that's a referendum on Donald Trump, not on Joe Biden.
You could say, well, look at all the things Joe Biden did.
But America's looking forward at Donald Trump and Republicans and saying, what does our path look like?
And yes, Donald Trump has done very good things.
He has done very good things.
But we just asked literally like yesterday, it has been about a year since Donald Trump became president again.
Are you better off than you were a year ago?
And only 38% say yes.
And that's the exact same number that said yes at the end of the Biden administration.
So that number has not gone up.
Now have some of the Republicans gone up and some of the Democrats gone down?
Yeah, of course.
But the independent number, only 33% say better.
60% say worse.
And so independents who basically Trump won because he won almost half of
independents have completely turned on him, like just absolutely completely fundamentally
turned.
And it's like, oh, well, Republicans have the right value set.
Republicans just have to vote harder.
Republicans just have to register more people.
And it's like, well, no, Donald Trump, like, got this huge wave of crossover Democrats
and independents who are not Republicans.
They don't care about the Republican Party.
They don't care about traditional conservatism.
they just want the system fixed and it's like the under 40 voter.
That's how you go from 60% when you're burning down the government with those to 34% when it looks like we're run by satanic cannibal pedophiles.
I mean, it's the most obvious thing.
So like, and I try to convey this.
Like this is in my opinion, I'm trying to figure out the right way to say this.
It is about leadership and vision and he needs to be able to sell to America that by voting Republican in November,
that there is a clear path forward that will solve the systematic issues we have.
And I said that on November 18th, right to his face.
And that involves not talking about the Dow Jones when people don't want to be ruled by satanic pedophiles.
Like, that's really what it comes down to.
And I, like, I mean, I could just go on and on and on.
The polling of this is like, like, we ask, when thinking about the economy, which is the most important aspect that must be improved?
And more jobs, 17% higher stock market, five, higher corporate profits, six, lower grocery and energy
prices, 47%. So people are still just strangled by costs. And you could say egg price is all he wants,
but it's like, that's not going to fix it. And people don't understand. It's like, I can't afford
my life. Groceries, like insurance, the cars, everything's more expensive. And when I look at the
person that's leading my country and I decide whether I'm going to vote for his part,
He's like, listen, we got the egg prices down.
That it's just not the, it's not the sales pitch.
The sales pitch needs to be like, look, we understand the problems.
Like, look, I'm not part of the problem.
And I think in many ways Donald Trump subconsciously to a lot of folks is perceived now increasingly
to be part of the problem because he's trying to sweep this under the rug.
And even economically, we just did a poll.
Does do big businesses have too much or not enough influence in the Trump administration?
and people said too much, 50%, only 10%, say, big businesses has too little influence.
I know Rich Barris has asked the same question about Israel, got very, very, very similar results.
And so it's like, he promised to fight for America.
And Americans need to see the person that they have to put all their support behind is going to fight the things that matter.
And the SMP is not the thing that matters.
I just tweeted about it.
And then like, I'm glad you brought that clip up.
I mean, it literally sounds like let them eat S&P, like Murray and Spinnett.
Let them eat stocks, yeah.
Yeah, let them eat stonks.
That's it.
100%.
Line go up economy, K-shaped economy.
Yeah, and there's so many things about this midterms that are, they make it ultimately important, right?
The fact that if they win, they're going to impeach Trump, and that's going to be it for America, as far as I'm concerned, because, I mean, we've been over that a million times.
But then there's the fact that Trump came in with this wave of sort of.
support and he had a mandate to do so much. And his failure, the disappointment in the first year is so
massive. And he's not doing himself any favors. And it's like, you know, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't
tell him to be dishonest, but it's almost like, dude, why are you even just pretending to be going
after Epstein? Like, it's just politically, wouldn't it be a better move to go, look, I don't
want to actually go after Epstein, but I'm going to pretend I am. And it's like, they won't even
do that. It's like, what is going on? I told them to do that on your show. Like, I went on Alex
Jones.
September 16th or whatever.
Or no, July 16th.
It was right after, I had those polls in my hands.
And I said the right way to do this is that you own the FBI.
It's $11 billion a year.
We have an FBI.
It's supposed to, it's the part of the government that investigates things.
And America is telling you that the case is not closed.
And so if you got the FBI, you got a case that's not closed, like, let's just investigate.
And if he had done that very cynically, and I hate myself for having recommended that,
they could have, that was the sweep under the rug.
That's what you would do.
You just sweep it under the rug.
Nobody hears about it.
And instead it's like, here, Democrats, take this.
This is something you're going to bludgeon us with for the next three years.
Yeah.
And that's why I bring it up too.
Because I don't actually want Trump to be lying.
I want him to actually be doing stuff.
But it just highlights the absurdity of Trump's failure to grapple with this, what should be,
what should have always been a golden goose for him to make him the hero of the republic for rounding up the satanic pedophile ring.
Instead, it's gone, it's flipped, and it's just bonkers.
When it comes to the midterms, we know that Susie Wiles' plan is to have Trump treat this like a presidential election and get out there on the road because they understand it's about turnout.
It's not about necessarily convincing people to flip parties.
It's about convincing your party to actually get off their butts and go vote.
It's always the way with midterms.
Does Trump even have the poll and the gravitas for that to be a very very?
valid strategy at this point? It seems to me like people are just going to be mad at him and
yelling things at him and going get back to D.C. and get to work. Dude, we don't need you in Kansas
doing a barn burner. So, I mean, what do you think about that strategy for the midterms?
Well, you know, it's harder and harder to predict the future with how loony politics is getting.
And I hesitate to try. But what I will say is like the upside case is, okay, we don't have any,
we don't like have any flagrant miscommunication problems or unforced errors.
and we, you know, we get past the Epstein thing.
Something else happens.
Hopefully it's not like a messy regime change, right?
And people, maybe they get the messaging together.
Maybe they, well, now I hear reconciliation's dead.
But like, they get a few laws passed with reconciliation.
And then maybe the economy starts to heat up and we get some headlines about wages going up.
Maybe the job market gets hotter.
And, like, I mean, like, that's what it would take.
Everybody looks around as like, you know what, our problems aren't as bad.
Things are going in the right direction.
And the Republicans did get us here.
Maybe there's some wagon circling and maybe the generic ballot tightens and maybe, you know,
reverses the trend that it's had.
And maybe Democrats somehow don't get $3.5 billion funneled into Act Blue between now and the midterms.
Like maybe.
Lots of maybes.
Maybe that's the best case, right?
The worst case is like there could be.
And again,
Maybe the best case is like we go to war with China and everybody rallies around jingoistic pride and like maybe that's it.
Like I don't know.
But the worst case is there is a possible path where there is very brutal blowback for, you know, because that's the one thing.
People stuck with Donald Trump through literally everything.
I mean, they, Teflon Don and a lot of stuff and people stuck with him and said, no, he's ultimately got my best.
He's not perfect, but he's got my best interest in heart.
And so that aspect of like a core betrayal of the base.
And I don't know looking at the country right now, we haven't pulled on Epstein yet.
Again, we're going to do it in the next couple of days.
Like what, how are people, they're consuming a lot of this content and what are they going to focus on?
And what are the lightning rods that get stuck up?
And that's the issue is that there's going to be these symbolic moments that just drive how public opinion plays out between now and then.
and one of them could be Trump being heckled at a rally about Epstein because of something that just continues to persist that they can't force away.
They just need an Epstein strategy.
I know that sounds like horrifying, cynical, political strategist talk, but they need an Epstein strategy, like clearly in order to get to November.
And like the rallies that's, it's just high risk.
And here's the thing, too.
It's like, is it high reward?
because the rallies like drew people in because they were like people like the optics of the rallies.
They were good.
They were rebuilding a movement to save America.
And you were getting a lot of like normies, independence, maybe some like blue collar, some union workers to show up.
And are they going to want to go to those rallies just hear Trump talk about the GDP and the SMP?
Like the union workers, you know, like Republicans got unions for like for the, like for the
first time. And so it's like, well, we need to focus on making those people happy in this new
big tent. And instead, it's like, we want to be perceived as success already so that we can tell
people the job is done, mission accomplished. And mission accomplished didn't work out very well for Bush.
So I don't even know. You look at George W. Bush numbers and they were horrifying at the end.
But George W. Bush still had like a whole lot of Christian conservatives that just liked him and stuck
with him through a lot of stuff. But like, I just don't know.
Like, yeah, maybe it's, you know, you got all these, all these maybes, all these potentials, like, maybe this happens, maybe this.
And it's like, I hear this giant list of potentials that are going to be hard to get any one of them, let alone all of them.
And then it's like, or you could just like arrest Lex Lexx, Wexner.
It's like, one of these, you can either go for the impossible combination of all these miracles, or you can just like arrest the bad guys.
It seems like a simple solution to me.
I mean, do you think that would.
Well, we hit that moment.
Would that make a big difference?
You literally just saw this moment.
So Minnesota, in my opinion, was such a political gift because Doge was so popular.
And then the Republicans got rid of Doge.
They really just kind of got rid of it.
And it was the biggest mistake they probably ever made.
And then all of a sudden, it's forced into the news again, right?
And so America fundamentally still wants all the illegals gone by a pretty strong majority.
It's like 30 points, net points more popular than Trump is.
But then there's been increased, you know, blowback about the ICE tactics.
47% of plurality say ice is too harsh, only in the 30s say not harsh enough.
And so it's like, well, they're telling you they don't like the way it's panning out, but they still want it fundamentally.
And we flooded Minnesota with ice and made it even worse by giving them an opportunity to have all these optics with the protests, which is not.
Like, we don't want red meat here.
We want resolving the core problems with America and increasing tension in a way that,
that makes ICE look like the bad guy is bad.
And so what did Trump do there?
He sort of lost the plot that fundamentally Americans still want what he promised,
which is less illegal aliens.
And he immediately sort of like caved and started talking about soft amnesty and started
like, you know, he sounded like a billionaire oligarch on this.
And you know, a strategy decision must have been made behind the scenes because across
the board, they started using the phrase criminal aliens.
And this is the same movement that made fun of people.
for using undocumented immigrants, right?
Like it's corporate newspeak.
It's like it's 1984 stuff.
Well, now we're using 1984 tactics to defend low wages for workers for the party that just got unions for the first time.
And so obviously the answer out of this is raid the freaking businesses.
It's not hard.
The polling is off the charts, popular.
Rating businesses is like 40 points more popular than Trump is.
He verifies like 60 or 70 points more popular than Trump is.
And the Republicans were just given all this low-hanging fruit, past the SAVE Act, voter ID, like, raid business, like, e-verify.
Like, we have an e-verify system.
We could just use it.
Right.
And, yeah.
No, it is, it is all so utterly insane.
And it just seems like they're either not getting the polls or they just don't care.
I can't wrap my mind around it because people like yourself, Rasmussen reports, I mean, you are giving them the roadmap to success.
And they just refuse to follow it.
So, you know, I don't know how really.
horse to water, but you can't make a drink.
I think you're dead on about everything.
I think you have the right mindset.
We've got to focus on reality here, not the fantasy that they're trying to push forward
because nobody's buying it.
Thank you so much for being here with us.
We could go on and on.
I know you're a busy man.
Mark Mitchell, you can follow him at Honest Polster on X and Rasmussenreports.com.
Thank you so much for being here with us, sir.
Thank you, Harrison. Thanks.
My pleasure.
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But I did want to show this because it goes into what he was talking about.
What we've all been talking about, the scams.
The scam artistry that is tearing this country apart from the inside,
Josh Hawley at Hawley M.O.
Senator Josh Hawley says that we lose about a trillion dollars in scam,
you know, being scammed out of our tax money every single year.
A trillion dollars.
We human beings almost can't even fathom how much money that is.
But let's go to this video.
This is Josh Hawley.
You're talking about just the sheer madness of the unrelenting scams bankrupting us at full speed.
Let's watch.
Where's this money going?
I mean, we know where some of it's going in Minnesota.
It went overseas.
It went to Somalia.
It went to NGO fronts.
We know where it's gone in some other states.
California gave away millions of dollars to a pro-Hamas NGO.
But a trillion dollars nationally.
Where's this money going to?
I appreciate that question.
because most people don't ask that question.
It goes to terrorism.
It goes to child trafficking.
It goes to drugs.
It goes to terrorism.
And then it's used to purchase luxury items, cars, purses, homes.
That's all funded by people like me that pay taxes.
So you're telling me that the electrician who goes to work every day and clocks in and works his butt off and tries to earn just enough,
to be able to, you know, make his rent, maybe have a kid or two, put food on the table.
His tax money is being used to buy other people, luxury items, cars, yachts, whatever else,
and is going to fund terrorism and child trafficking?
Yes, sir.
A trillion dollars a year on this stuff?
$150 million an hour.
$150 million an hour.
How do they get in their hands on it?
What are we talking about here?
Trends, national organizations, criminal networks, how do they get their hands on this money?
They take advantage of antiquated government systems and processes.
They go into programs that they know elected and appointed officials won't touch,
and they can steal at scale.
And what happened really was during the pandemic between the PPP loans and the unemployment insurance,
they learned a really valuable lesson.
Government never runs out of money.
And the probability of getting caught is,
virtually zero. I have it at one-tenth of one percent.
So come back to the recommendations that you mentioned in your opening statement.
What do we need to do to put a stop to this hemorrhaging of people's hard-earned money
going overseas to finance child trafficking and luxury yachts?
What needs to happen here?
It's really simple.
It's used every single day in the commercial sector.
Front-end identity verification.
you just don't get to say I am who I say I am.
Second, recertification of all the recipients.
There is so much fraud right now in the benefit programs all across the country.
We need to get a baseline.
Third, is this notion of a third-party independent audit,
and finally is involving federal law enforcement,
like the Secret Service, to investigate it.
The thing that people don't understand is that most of these beneficiaries, Senator, they're not real.
They're fake.
There's someone's stolen identity that is getting used in all 50 states.
You almost just have to laugh.
A trillion dollars a year?
A trillion dollars a year.
Because I've done the comparison before because you hear these big numbers and you hear them so much,
She just sort of becomes nothing.
It's just static noise.
And it started when, you know, we heard that George Soros had donated $18 billion to basically destroy America from the inside out.
And I remember just thinking, like, what does that even mean?
What is $18 billion?
What could you get with that?
I didn't even have AI at the time.
I was doing it, you know, by, you're doing the calculations by hand.
But it's like you can buy every castle in Europe.
That's for sale, thousands of them.
And you can buy every private island in the world.
You can buy stadiums and, you know, sports franchises and space programs.
And it's like you're still not even halfway to $14, $18 billion.
Now multiply that by what would it be?
$100.
Trillion is $1,000 billions.
It's like, what can you even fathom what is being stolen from us?
When you hear a trillion dollars stolen, it doesn't really connect with anything in your brain.
How about they've stolen a million high schools, 10,000 top of the line hospitals, a billion libraries, like you have no idea what our country could be like if we weren't being robbed relentlessly?
And let's remember we're just talking about the fraud.
That's not even accounting.
For the infinite amount of money that we pay for welfare, which shouldn't be going to the people it's going to, for the infinite amount of foreign aid that's going to just kill,
Russians on the other side of the world or try to take down Iran for whatever reason the
demons decide. I mean, how much of our wealth is just siphoned away? And then you think about
all the NGOs that are funded by the government. They're not really NGOs. They're GOs, actually.
It's just we don't have any oversight over them. It's worse than being a part of it. They're funded
by the government. They just don't have to abide by the same rules of the government. It's the
worst of both worlds. But they're, you know, a multi-billion dollar individual.
in this country.
Then you think about all the people that are employed directly by the government or
subsidiaries of the government or contractors with the government.
And again, you get down to like, okay, what is it?
4% of our entire population is actually engaged in for-profit endeavors?
What is the number?
It can't be more than like, I mean, I think 25% is way too high, considering all of
the money that goes into, I mean, you talk about education, government funded, you talk about,
I mean, it's all government funded.
So, like, who's actually making the money?
Who's actually producing the prosperity?
It's, like, less than 10% of America is somehow funding everybody else endlessly.
And this can get so much worse, by the way.
If you look at the numbers of South Africa, it's beyond ridiculous.
It's like literally 5% of people pay the taxes for everybody else,
and 80% of the people are completely dependent on the government.
It can get crazy, folks.
Like, when you really set up the systems of exploitation,
you can take a very small number of prosperous hardworking people and you can fund just infinite laziness.
It's really wild.
And that doesn't even count for the trillion dollars of fraud.
That's just an additional expense on top of it.
I think we should burn the whole thing down.
I'm really thinking about it.
I think we need to burn the whole thing down at this point.
You get to a certain point with legacy systems where you go, no, we're not reforming this, actually.
I think we need to scrape it all.
which is sort of what Trump was talking about doing at one point.
I'm not sure where it ever went,
but the idea was that, like, the fraud was so bad with welfare
that just they were kicking everybody off and everybody had to reapply.
That'd be a great way to do it.
Just go, you know what?
We're cutting it all off.
Nobody's getting a check.
Now you can come and reapply, and you can bring your idea,
and we can confirm who you are.
But it seems like something like that is the only way for this to work.
Because right now the spigot is running endlessly,
and we just got to cut it off.
There's no, like, piecemeal solution to this.
It's got to be a holistic decapitation of the fraud regime.
Now, I've got some breaking news here minutes ago.
I'm very annoyed at the news I'm about to bring to you,
as we've been talking about throughout this entire program with all of our guests.
The SAVE Act is of the utmost importance.
It is hugely popular with the vast majority of Americans,
Democrat and Republican, Democrats support the Save Act or what it implies that you have to have
an ID to vote. Something like 75% of Democrats support it, something like 85 to 90% of Republicans
support it. And yet it has just failed. It has just failed on the House floor. The Save America
Act mandating voter ID, oh, pass. Oh, wait a second. I'm wrong. It did pass. I read it wrong.
Okay. I'm sorry. I'm telling you this literally broke like 30 seconds ago. So I misread it and I was
really mad at Thomas Massey, I still kind of am.
But it looks like it passed the house. Okay, I misread it.
I'm still mad at Thomas Massey, though.
The Save America Act mandating voter ID passed the house.
Good.
216 to 216 to 215 with Thomas Massey
voting against securing elections.
He's the only Republican that voted against securing elections.
It's like, dude, what?
Why? Why can we not?
Okay, whatever. It's fine. We passed. It passed.
that's good. It passed. I thought
for sure when I first read it. It said that it didn't
pass because Tommy Massey voted against it,
but it passed despite
Thomas Massey voting against it.
Which it's just like, why would you not
vote for that?
What?
I'm like defending Thomas Massey
against claims of
Trump derangement syndrome earlier,
but then he goes and votes against
the SAVE Act and it's like, what the hell
is going on here? How can we not
just have people that are
good on everything. It's very weird.
Thomas Nasda, he's the only Republican pushing for the Epstein files.
He's one of the only Republicans speaking out against war in Iran or any of this other stuff.
And yet he votes against the Save Act.
Okay. All right. I guess that's what you're going to do.
All right. So that's good. All right. It's better news than I thought.
But we'll see how it fairs in the Senate.
And again, it just is the height of absurdity that it's even up for debate whether this passes.
that every single Democrat voted against something that 75% of their constituents do want to happen.
Explain that to me.
They're demons?
That's right.
That's right.
Doesn't need to be explained.
We already know that they are in fact demons.
Now, I got a lot of other big news to get into, including, I really, you know, I didn't think this was going to happen.
I got to be honest with you.
I thought they were smarter than this.
We covered yesterday the religious.
freedom, religious liberty committee that the Trump administration put together and that it
kind of knocked off the rails by the participation of somebody who was not willing to concede
that criticism of the nation state of Israel was in fact anti-Semitism.
It was a Catholic woman named Carrie Pre-Jean Bowler and she didn't say anything offensive.
She didn't say anything anti-Semitic.
Now, she got treated to a lot of vicious hateful.
remarks from the likes of Laura Lumer,
who were denigrating not just
Carrie, but the entire
Catholic faith, being like, why don't you
go cry about it in your little box,
in your little confessional box?
It's like, Jesus Christ. So, I mean,
but you didn't hear anything from Carrie like that.
Carrie wasn't going and, you know, sitting at the
White House religious liberty
committee going, you and your
little tiny hats and your stupid
wall, it's like, no, you had none of that.
She very politely and very
respectfully asked is anti-Zionism, anti-Semitism?
If I am a Catholic and have a spiritual conviction that the modern nation state of Israel has
nothing to do with the blessing of Israel that God gave to Abraham, if I can say in my
religious belief, Zionism is not good and not of God and actually against his plan,
does that make me a hater of Jews? Does that make me an anti-Semite that needs to be
silenced and she asked that question in a more polite way than I just did.
And she basically was hounded about it and criticized about it endlessly.
And she is now been kicked off of the committee.
According to Dan Patrick, Lieutenant Governor of Texas, I'm sad to say,
Karee Prejean Buller has been removed from President Trump's Religious Liberty Commission.
He says no member of the commission has the right to hijack a hearing for their own personal
and political agenda on any issue.
It's not what she did.
This is clearly without question
what happened Monday in our hearing
on anti-Semitism in America.
This was my decision.
That's absolutely not what happened.
It was a question about religious liberty
and the greatest threat
to religious liberty in America today
is the Zionist lobby
attempting to conflate anti-Syman with anti-Semitism
and to ban anti-Semitism
and to write laws against anti-Semitism.
I don't know how many times this
but this should really be civics 101.
The First Amendment has five freedoms.
The first of those five freedoms is the freedom of religion,
and the freedom of religion contains within it both the right to worship your God as you see fit
and also to criticize, mock, denigrate, hate other religions.
Obviously, obviously.
If the Catholic Church runs a country and is the state religion of a country,
you know, they might force you to go to church.
They might force you to worship.
a Catholic method, but that's usually not what they're going to do.
What they're going to do is just punish anybody criticizing it.
They're going to hurt anybody that tries to stand up against Catholicism or tries to preach something in opposition to Catholicism.
But typically, like, freedom of religion isn't violated by somebody forcing you to be Christian or forcing you to be Catholic.
It's almost always a matter of you're allowed to criticize this power structure.
You're allowed to speak out against religious beliefs.
of a certain sort. That's why we have the First Amendment. Not to only protect Jews being Jews
and worshiping in a Jewish fashion. That's part of it. The other part is everybody else gets to say
this is stupid and bad and wrong and I have religious convictions that are completely different
than that and I refuse to adhere to theirs. That's freedom of religion, obviously. Obviously.
Ridiculous. Dan Patrick continues. The commission has done outstanding work through five hearings. Two more are scheduled. The testimony has been both illuminating and heartbreaking. Under the Biden administration, Americans of all faiths had their religious liberty not only stolen from them, but were often punished for standing up for their faith and education, the military, the private sector, and even the ministry. This spring, the commission will deliver one of the most important reports in American history directly to the president. The president respects all faiths. He believes all Americans have a right to receive the great inheritance given to them by our founding fathers in the First Amendment. I'm
grateful for President Trump for having the vision and boldness to create this commission,
fighting for the word of God, religious freedom is what this nation was founded upon.
Leading this fight will be one of his greatest legacies.
But they've just kicked a woman off of the religious liberty committee for her religious convictions.
I think I might need to say that again.
They just kicked Karee-Pri-Jean Boler off of the religious liberty committee because of her
religious convictions.
I mean, what are we doing here?
What exactly, I'll tell you what we're doing here,
we're setting up a delusion, an illusion,
a giant game of, you know, puppetry of, of manipulation in which
criminalizing anti-Semitism is being put forward as freedom of religion.
That they're saying that unless criticism of the Jewish people, the Jewish state,
Jewish power structure, Jeffrey Epstein and his Jewish friends.
Like if you don't crush that and shut that down, then therefore you're violating the rights of Jews.
That is literally the opposite of what the First Amendment says.
And what you're doing by trying to make anti-Semitism illegal is in fact setting up blasphemy laws for a state religion,
which I think every single kindergartner at this point knows is in violation of the First Amendment.
obviously you don't have a state religion, except we kind of do at this point,
except kind of in a de facto way we actually do have a state religion.
It's Judaism.
So religious liberty be damned, I guess.
Again, I didn't think they would actually do that.
Because you would think that with all of the outrage against the Jewish censorship that's going on,
on top of the fact they're trying to get us into war they're on,
on top of the fact that Jeffrey Epstein and all of his friends are calling all non-Jews,
and eating them.
You would think that they'd have enough intelligence in this group to say,
hey, it's not a great look if we expel the one person actually standing up for religious liberty
on the religious liberty panel.
But apparently, they're so confident or deluded that they think this is a good idea.
It's not.
I'll tell you, I was having a conversation with a noted, very prominent Jewish figure online yesterday.
It texted me about something.
And I said, look, dude, I'm genuinely concerned about how y'all are handling it.
Like, I'm genuinely concerned about having Shabos Keston bomb on the Religious Liberty Commission
so he can sit up there and claim that, you know, no children in Palestine ever died
and that you should arrest people for anti-Semitism.
It's like, you understand what you're doing.
You understand how this appears to the rest of us, right?
This is a bad idea.
So my advice, my advice, if you want to stop anti-Semitism, I actually have a solution for you,
actually pretty great. Here's what you do. Use all that power and all that influence
and support America and Americans. You hear that? Tell you what, instead of paying people $7,000
for tweets that argue in favor of Israel, how about $7,000 for tweets that support the U.S.
Constitution or something? It's like, everybody would love it. Everybody would be in favor of that.
You just got to stop trying to destroy the First Amendment and then playing the victim when you do it.
It's actually not that hard.
And this is sincere advice because I want to see us come together and defeat the evil people, not tear each other down endlessly.
That's going to do for us.
I think Rob Dewe is hosting The War Room.
So stay tuned for that.
Very big show coming up.
And then I'll be back with you on Friday.
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