The Always Sunny Podcast - Mac and Charlie Write a Movie

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

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It's been a minute. It's been a minute. How was Ireland? Oh, fucking amazing. First of all, what a country? What a country? Just the people are the greatest people. The landscape is just stunning.

I am awesome at driving on the left-hand side of the road. Really? Better? Then on the right side, you can. No, no, no, I'm better the right. But that tracks. Well, you're always talking about how your brain is like opposite. Oh, yeah. You think about things differently.

I agree. Well, yeah, first of all, I like the puttering engine of a diesel engine. I was like, this is cool. This car doesn't, well, just, it's not a golf cart, like a, not like a $100,000 golf cart, like we drive. But, um, which is a superior machine. I was, I will admit, once I got back in, I was like, this is a better car. But I was having fun kind of puttering around, like in a diesel, you know, half electric half diesel, I think it was,

but forever before the gas went down. Everywhere I went, people fucking love Sonny. Yeah, it was so heartwarming and refreshing and people were genuinely excited. You know, we did at one point, we drove around the Ring of Barrow which is in the southwest corner of the island. So it's like down in Western Cork and what a drive. Just stunning view.

And we stopped at this place called Helen's Bar, which was really, nothing was near it. And they were like, how the fuck did you find this place? What are you doing here? And it was also like, I guess everyone has television, but it seemed like a place that wouldn't have television. You know one of those towns that had like five people in it. Uh-huh. But they all watched it. You know what I those towns that had like five people in it. Uh-huh.

But they all watched it. You know what I'm saying? He just started to watch it. He said, as Glenn and I were just, we saw each other in the parking lot there. And as we were walking up, I, for some reason, I don't know why. I mentioned to him that I had finally seen the banshees of Inesheran. Oh yeah. But you're not seeing yet.

It's great. It's kind of exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Where there was just this island and it was in what, 1923 in the movie and there's really nothing to do except a little bit of work here or there and then you just go to the pub every day at three o'clock, four o'clock and just get hammered.

What are you talking about? I was in Ireland for 10 days. Everyone there is so wonderful about the show and loves the show. And I just love driving on the opposite side of the road. It was just such a fun challenge. I feel like my brain clicked into it. I did not like it at first.

The first drive out there was hairy, but by the 10th day, I was like, get me in the left side of this car. My first three days, I kept walking to the wrong, like the passenger side, the kid in the car. Oh my gosh, I gotta go around. But then by the end, I was zipping around and that thing loving every second of it. I don't think I've ever heard of it.

I drove on the left side of the highway up here today. Just because I missed it. Yeah, last one. Yeah, just dodging glass. Last one, last one. No, that was her. People were pissed. Megan. Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan,

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Because we have to. I think it's important for people to know that actually in case we bring something back up, in case you know something from an episode that we talked about comes back or something, I mean, an episode of the podcast comes back up and we're like, in case, you know, something from an episode that we talked about comes back, or something, I mean, an episode of the podcast comes back up and we're like, oh yeah, last week blah, blah, blah, and it's something that, you know, we posted for weeks ago or something. In fact, the one that's going to air on Monday, or they probably will listen, they will have already seen this one, but the Dennis system one, we actually recorded before the last two that air,

just because we had to schedule the schedule. We had to schedule the lives here. But yeah, it was fun. I did a little road trip, went out to Denver and back and it was really fun. Just me and the dog just hitting the wide open road. Didn't get murdered. Yeah, just driving around with the dog.

Let me tell you something like Ireland has gotten right that our country has gotten wrong. Every time you stop in a little town, you're not like, and there's the McDonald's, and there's the Walmart, and there's the Starbucks. Like, we've destroyed our small towns, our small businesses, and our beautiful landscape with the modification of America. I'm running my president's in 2024, I'm announcing it right here. Oh my God, I would hate to be present. It would be awful. Guys, what in that suck? How's your morning there?

It's not a fire. It's not a fire. It's a fire. It's a fire. I missed you guys. I'm happy to be here in chat. I'm excited to hang out. That's very sweet. I'm excited as well. Now, how many cups of coffee have you had? You seem pretty coffeeed up.

Yeah, I mean, always, but no more than usual by this point. Just in a good mood. I just in a great mood. It's just in a good mood. Yeah, that's weird, because I was driving here thinking like, not that I'm in a bad mood, I'm actually not. I'm in a good mood. I just was like, usually I'm driving over

and I'm thinking like, oh, you know what? I want to talk about this. I bet, you know, I have got something on my mind, something that, you know, irritated me. I'm like, I'm so glad. It's usually good, but he got an irritation. Yeah, it's usually an irritation. I know that often sometimes it's, you know,

something that was awesome. And I was just driving over and I was like, I got, I don't know, man. That's okay, it's good. Yeah, that's okay, it's something that was awesome. And I was just driving over and I was like, I don't know, man. I know it's good. Yeah, that's good. But I guess that's good. The weather's good, you know, and me. It's not good for the podcast, but it's good for me.

Well, no, I agree, it's not good for the podcast. I think where Rob's right, it's better when we got something argue about it. It's some kind of fight. Yeah, some bitch about it. We've got all staying. Yeah, you don't watch the podcast, that is what I'm learning. No, yeah. I mean about that. That all staying. Yeah. You don't watch the podcast, then, is what I'm learning.

No, yeah. I mean, how much of a narcissist? I mean, he's gonna sit back and watch the podcast. Quality control. Quality control. You see, I trust Megan and Laura and our entire team, really. I mean, well, that's foolish because, you know, because you're coming off terrible.

You're coming off terrible. Coming off like a real douchebag. No, I sometimes, I sometimes, I know. I sometimes, I don't listen to it. I sometimes enjoy, you know, I'll give like a note or two, but are they any? You do do a very good job every time. Thank you, Charlie. I appreciate it. Yeah, I don't often get a chance to watch them before we post them.

Yeah, I try to, but I don't run in a little behind sometimes, but I watch all of them. I watch all the ones when I wasn't here. And I've appreciated, like, I mean, I definitely did leave in all the conversations about bands and your diets and... Yeah, all the fights. Me, no assets and all that. Me, gaslighting, Glenn. Yeah, you assets and all that. Me, gaslighting Glenn. Yeah, you guys.

You guys have a lot of that. No, I left all those mostly because I wanted people to miss me getting you guys back on track. So it was a strategy on my part. Well, we noticed there was an episode where you weren't there and then all of a sudden Mar was there. And we weren't sure exactly why and we did ask that. We're really certain we that it was yeah A right teacher Other mom it's like having a like having a substitute teacher who didn't

Yeah, somebody actually commented it was like a substitute teacher who wasn't told that she had the worst class in school Told she had the worst class in school. Oh my God, weren't you? Remember just being brutal, brutal to substitute. I feel bad actually. I think the back of him, because that person looked like they were 45 years old and most likely they were 32. You weigh younger, 21. Right out of school, 20.

You're making $10 an hour. Yeah, just making nothing. Making nothing, just getting abused. Making nothing, he just getting abused. Yeah, but there, there, there does seem like, I get it from the kids perspective, right? Which is like, hang on a second. You know, the deal is, I gotta come in the class, I can't be home with my Nintendo, I gotta come in,

I gotta sit, and I gotta listen to this teacher, I gotta learn shit. Now if that teacher bails on the deal, don't slap in a new person, okay? I am committed to this one, this eighth grade teacher all year long, you're gonna stick out someone else in? Uh-uh, no. And so, you know, you gotta rub them a little bit.

Do you think that the kids are meaning to the substitute out of loyalty to the original teacher? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just out of, just out of like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no was clear that there was no point of weakness. We tried. We came at her, but she kept, she kept shutting it down. She was like the, she was like that one substitute you would get and everybody would try to fuck with her and she'd be like, sit down, Mr. McLeanie, or you were out, you were going and you're like, oh, I can't fuck with her. There was a real moment though when she said she was going to try to wrangle you guys where I saw all of the hairs on your neck. Next to the idea of being wrangled. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's triggering. I don't think I do wrangle you guys though. No. It's not, I want to talk about the episodes. You know, yes. Well, that's just because I like talking about the episodes. It's not because I think the podcast is better when we do. It's just this is my opportunity to grill you guys.

So I'm not personally going to pass that up. I think it's good to have the questions too because sometimes I'll watch an episode and be like, I don't is my opportunity to grill you guys, so I'm not personally going to pass that up. I think it's good to have the questions too, because sometimes I'll watch an episode and be like, I don't know exactly what to talk about. Like, I kind of want somebody to ask me questions, as opposed to just bringing stuff up randomly. Well, good news. I have something today.

Well, let's do it. Should we talk about Timo and Timo and Timo and Timo and Timo and Timo and Timo and Timo? I do. I found it very funny. Or is anyone coming in hot? Really? I'm not coming in cold. Coming in cold? happy, but cold.

Have you eaten enough today? Are you physically cold? No, I'm physically cold. No, right. I'm coming in. I'm coming in in a good mood. I got up very early. I did a radio show in Philadelphia,

the Preston Steve show. We're all aware of Preston Steve. The straws show. The straws show. The podcast, the live sunny podcast tour. Dude, we're going to be doing. I'm very excited about that. It's so much fun. We're true. That was true. That was true. That was true. That was true. That was true. That was true.

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and they were kind of coming, but you wouldn't go to the concert, you would just go to the parking lot and it would be where high school kids could find kegs of beer. It was also a place where you could find whippets. Sure. And apparently according to Press and Steve, this morning the whip at market is Bowman. Is it? I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

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A whole, a whole highway. A whole highway collapse. What? Because a tanker like ignited below it and the fire collapsed the highway above it. The whole I-95 and there was a great video, which I'll probably put in the podcast, of a local news of a guy talking about having heard I-95 collapsing and he's got that accent and it is. It's more of us.

It's more of us. We're just watching it now because we can talk about it. We can talk about it. I'll see. Robert Azale sent it to us. I was sent that exact clip by no less than four people. Yeah. Dude, so I was pissed out and I woke up to nothing

but text messages, phone calls. I had no idea what was going on. And I got dressed, I came out. I looked down, I smelled like a smoky smell. And I'm like, damn, dude, so. It's crazy. We came out and saw it. I look down, I smell like a smoky smell, and I'm like, damn dude, so. It's crazy. When you came out and saw it, didn't you know what was happening? And it just looked like a party.

Well, no, so I got all those text messages, screenshots, and I'm like, everybody's like, yeah, where's this at? Like, nobody, I like a direct location. So I was like, look at my window, I see a bunch of cops, I'm like, that's right by my apartment. So. So. So when did you figure out and realize that the freeway collapsed the North side?

Oh, do I always pass that when that happened? Passed out. Passed out. All I was going on, dude, I was pissed. Why would you spoke to your lead with that? You're talking to the news. You're talking to the news. And you know your mom's going to see this.

Your friends are all going to see it, which is maybe why you said it. But you lead with, I was passed out. Past out. He's just facts. He's just stating facts. You know, there's no filter to it. Also swearing on the news.

Yeah. I love the guy. You can really hear the accent on saw because they put like an L at the end of it. So, it's like, yeah. It's something about that Philly accent really tickles the imagination. It's confounding. It's, it is the strangest, it really is to this day one of the strangest accents of the world.

It's like a Boston accent slammed with the deep south, mixed with England. Australia and Australia. There's some Australia. There's some Australia and just like a weird bond villain. Yeah, it sounds, it sounds fake. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like if you'd never heard that accent before and didn't know weird bond villain. Yeah, it sounds fake. Like, you know what I mean?

Like if you'd never heard that accent before and didn't know what it was and somebody was doing it, you'd be like, ooh, somebody's doing like a really bad New York accent or. Well, you remember like when we first started the show and we were debating like, do we do the accents or not? And we're like, people won't know talking about that.

Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna be like, what is this? We just, we chose specific words, and we'll just do it for those words. Yeah. You know, Danny goes in and out of it. Danny goes in and out of it.

Yeah, yeah. He was messing around with a lot when he first came in in the second. So he ramped it up this year a little bit. I noticed a little bit. Did he? Suddenly decided his character has a Philly accent. I do really want to talk about this episode.

So shall we just, should we jump in? Matt can Charlie write a movie. Yeah, dude. First of all, Danny, it's doing the accent a little bit in this episode, but like, the thing that jumped out at me most was him, why are you rubbing on that phone? Why are you rubbing on it?

Let me rub on it. Let me rub on it. Why are you rubbing on the phone? Let me rub on it. What are you doing? Wait, no, no, no, no, hey, Frank, get your greasy fat sausage fingers off my touchscreen phone. This thing's new. My fingers are not greasy.

You have four sausage links in your pocket right now. Yeah, but I don't touch the sausage links. Why should I do that when I can let my shirt do the work? Watch. I'm not touching. I'm not touching. I don't want. That was a Rosal Joe.

Totally. I remember that was a Rosalio line. But also just the context that it was an absurd thing that Dennis was looking at his phone that much. And how sad it is that we now live in a culture where we're all guilty of sort of acting like you're acting in that episode. But in that episode, it's a joke that you're all guilty of sort of acting like you're acting in that episode. But in that episode, it's a joke that you're this disengaged and now it's totally normal.

And now we are all so engaged with that device that I would also like to point out. That's horrible. That's a simple thing. Sad. So that phone, and I remember this, this was like a year after a year and change after, no, actually, I think it was like almost two years after the iPhone had first come out on the market. And Blackberry,

available for rent now, had just come out with the Blackberry Storm, which was the phone that really- That was destroyed. They still was gonna take the world by storm. Yeah, and boy, it just shouldn't. They rushed it to market, and I remember actually, I was like, I was wondering, I was like,

why didn't we, I think, I can't remember why we had a Blackberry Storm instead of an iPhone. I think, I think I can guess. Yeah, it cannot. Whipple was like, what? Yeah, no, no, thank you. No, and blackberry, blackberry was like, yes, please, yes, please, yes, please.

You'll talk about those. You'll hold it and never seen, yes? And I do, hey, you know what, I've never seen, hey. And I do remember, I do remember messing around with the phone because I was curious about it. And I was so, I was like, this is so weird. Like the whole screen clicked. You know, because the whole concept on my phone was,

it's not gonna be an iPhone because it'll be a touch screen, but it'll still have that blackberry click. So when you press the screen, the whole screen would click. And it was, that piece of shit. It was terrible. It's really glitchy, it was really slow, it was a piece of shit. It was terrible. It was really glitchy, it was really slow, it was very laggy.

Not anything like the movie by the same name, which moves very quickly. Yes, the movie itself is not laggy at all. Yes, and yeah. But yeah, I remember that. It was a blackberry storm and I remember thinking, like, this is not a great phone. But yeah, but it was after, I mean, touchscreen phones had just come out,

so it was just becoming a thing to be able to like, be on your phone at all times and not be a businessman. Do you guys remember this? Because I don't remember this. Like why did we go with that storyline for your character? Right, the disengaged is very funny. You know, that we're pitching in a movie Why did we go with that storyline for your character? The disengaged is very funny. You know, that we're pitching in a movie and you're half engaged, and then you do finally

get engaged to talk about the penetration, which I thought was hilarious. But do you remember why we went with that sort of action? You needed the twist at the end that he had been typing up. Yeah, my mind. I think we were probably just talking about in the room the fact that like now with, because the iPhone again had been out for about a year and a half or something like that. And I think it was becoming very clear

that people were just like, you know, even more glued to their phones than they ever had been. That was a funny concept. It's a good new kind of funny thing to bring up. But also, you know, when we're in the right, in the right room and we're like, okay, well, it'd be funny if these characters write a movie. Okay, who are the dumbest people to write the movie? Okay, probably Mac and Charlie.

We know D would want to be in the movie. We could see Frank wanting to be an agent and we're like, okay, Dennis, Dennis, like, we we, you know, we all like, yeah, we're all like, okay, we figure out these two, this pairing, this pairing, now what are we going to do with Mac? Okay, what's Mac going to do? And it might have been, there's just that picture. It would have been, yeah. This one had the,

you know, for whatever reason, I can't remember why, but like, I don't know why, but very often times, we don't send you two off to undraft just the two of you. Yeah, this was a, and I remember this was the one that you got to the Mac all day. Anyhow, it's in joint. Yeah, I remember a, and I remember this was one that you got back on to any hour to join. Yeah, I remember, yeah, I remember us writing this together, actually, and I remember it being fun.

And yeah, I don't know why we don't do it more often. I remember, I usually do. I have a memory you guys coming back with a draft and be like, oh, this is a lot of fun. Like all the conversations about what the movie is about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, it was fun. And I remember thinking the concept of like, I think when we hit on that Dennis, the fact

that he's disengaged is what makes him appealing as an actor, was funny to us as kind of an inside joke, is like that kind of thing of like, you have to show this, there's this weird thing when you go into auditions as an actor. Like if they get the sense that you really want the part, there's something that kind of turns people off about that. Even though you should want the actor who worked the hardest, who wants the part the most baby. Baby and Hillary. Yeah, where's the baby?

Sexy indifference. Sexy indifference. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Like it works in every capacity. It works in every, it works in every interpersonal relationship that you have. You know, I think that's why I've always, that's part of the reason why I think Australians do so well in auditions, because I think they have that kind of sexy indifference. They're just like, it doesn't feel think they have that kind of sexy indifference. They're just like,

it doesn't feel like they're that many. It feels like a lot of them are just like, they're just rough, wild, crazy people who come into, who are just like acting, because it's like, yeah, I thought it'd be fun, you know, just kind of guy for it. And just see what happens, you know, I can't do that. That's all I'm gonna do. Yeah, really? Yeah. before anyone would just see what happens. You know, I can't do that. That's all I can do. Yeah, it's pretty easy. Yeah, it's almost like they don't really give a shit about it.

It's just kind of like something that they're doing that day. It's like doing the audition. Generalize the whole continent. Come on, no. It's here, they're not the stereotypes funny. It's too much to give them a whole continent. You know, I think we're trying to, we're talking about continent. It's no longer a continent. I just got that on this. I think we're trying to. We're trying to.

It's no longer a continent. Now, Oceana is not my son is like big into geography these days. And they call that whole region Oceana. Oceana. So it's Australia. New Zealand. Yeah. And both answers are correct.

If you say Australia, you will get the points. You will get the points. You will get say Australia, you will get the points. You will get the points. You will get the points. And if you say Oshiana, you'll also get the points. Okay. Well, where are we on the continent aspect of it? That's where we are.

That's where we are. But the Oshiana is the continent. It is now the continent. But if you say Australia, I see what you're saying. I didn't see what you're saying before. Yeah. He's still on the left side of the road in Ireland. Yeah, I guess in London.

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from within the gang. Like D comes in with this acting job that she has, but the whole stakes of that scene where Mack and Charlie are pitching you the movie is kind of self-created. Like, Frank just says that Dennis is a producer. And then you guys are pitching to him with the earnest need. Like he can do something if you sell him this movie. And it all kind of is self-generated within and never breaks outside of the gang, which I think is always really funny because you totally believe you all believe the stick. Like you and Mac and Charlie are just so like,

okay, we have this our one shot. And you're like, you live with this guy. I mean, you talk to him at the same time. You talk about like, he is a total axiom for this guy. Yeah. And an agent is great. I would just like to say to the audience out there, that's accurate in Hollywood.

There are so many people that walk around this city, they just show up and they tell people they're producers and the next thing you know, people are pitching to them. And I don't know what they do. I don't know what these people do. Think of all the people that you know who call themselves producers and who don't produce anything.

That's a good grift for the sake of not going crazy. I'm going to strongly agree with you. Yeah, there's some, there's some suspect producers out there for sure. It is true though, that you can, you could just step into a room and be like, I'm a producer. And you know where I see it a lot too is when people have production companies.

Yeah, I've got a production company. And then you go and like, you know, I'm DB Pro and you're like, you know, because some guy handed you a card and you're like, oh, what is this? What have they done? Nothing. I was just in Philadelphia for an event and I was talking to many people outside of our industry,

which is always fun because we live in this bubble where everybody we know works in some capacity or lives with or is, we're very close to everybody or so many people that work in this industry. And to talk to people outside of it, they'll ask questions like, what is a producer? What does a producer actually do? That's a tough question.

And it's a tough question to answer because there's so many, there's so many different jobs that fall under that umbrella. And one of which is nothing. The answer is nothing. Yeah. I don't do anything. I have a name. I have a name that they put up there and then they pay me for that.

But I don't produce anything. I have a name. I have a name that they put up there and then they pay me for that, but I don't produce anything. Yeah, they had one point. Well, I did. And now they just put their name on it and that's it. Like when someone's good at it, it's an incredible asset. You are actually making something. Yeah, you're really making something. You're making sure it happens. It happens on a schedule. You're making sure it gets seen. You're guiding it creatively. happens on schedule, you're making sure it gets seen, you're guiding it creatively.

And then there are the people who are able to claw onto something and then put their name on the thing. I do think the producer's guild does try to protect for that a little bit, like on films. You can't get the title of producer. You can get like, associate producer or co-producer or executive producer on a film without having to go through as many steps as I think you have to go through. This is from what I understand from talking to Jill about this because this is what she

does. But you have to go through a lot more steps to get that big P producer title on a film. And it's also different in film and television, right? you have to go through a lot more steps to get that big P producer title on a film. And it's also different in film and television, right? Like the big, the best title, the best producer title you can get on a film is producer. The best producer title you can get on a TV show is executive producer. I don't know why. Yeah, it's all. Because executive producer doesn't mean as much on a film as it does on a TV show, but the average person probably just has does not know that at all. I don't know. It's a tough thing to gauge what it is within a project and what it does to make it better

or make it exist. And we all know, because just from having worked with both the producers that are essential to the success of a project, and the ones that are essential to the success of a project and the ones that are able to kind of just be the way, or the ones that actively make it more difficult to succeed. It is amazing how often you'll see, I'll see a movie that Ryan did and I'll see somebody's name on there who I recognize and then I'll text them and say,

oh, I know that person, or I have work with that person. How did you find that experience? And he was like, never met that person before, never saw that person, had nothing to do with the making of that movie. But even I'm watching it, and it tricks me into believing that they had something to do with the movie, but they could.

Yeah, it's kind of insulting to the people who really are the kind of producers who are there on set every single day, standing behind the monitors and are really involved and are there on a daily hourly basis like solving problems as they come up of which there are a zillion on a movie set. It's constant problem solving and trying to protect the director and and being In between the studio and the director and navigating those two It's an extraordinarily difficult job for the people who do it who are there on set like doing like really doing the job of

I've done a lot of projects with John Recart and John Recart now works with Peter Safran. And they, I think Peter now runs DC with James Gunn. But John is a real producer. You know, John is making things happen every day and making sure that the movie happens and then making sure that the movie gets seen and gets out to an audience. And there are a million things coming at you left and right that are either gonna compromise or ruin. But then I've worked with people, you know, or had people seen people get their name on a project at the 11th hour,

who really had nothing to do with it except maybe were somehow involved in the sale or the distribution of something. Yeah. They're like, wow, that should be a different title for that. Do you guys remember if this episode came out of like, M. Knight, Shyamalan talking about that and wanted to talk about like movies with twists and stuff or more out of like wanting to skewer sort of Hollywood?

Because the show has occasionally ventured into some Hollywood territory, you know, with the thunder guns and like the lead, the weapon movies and like the characters are dancing around wanting to be like in the industry. Do you remember like how that kind of- No, I think it was that- I think it was that I'm like- It's more skewering our characters like what they would think a good movie was and that that was fertile ground for a really funny comedy just there. What their pitch was about like guy who smells crime. Like okay, we know that's gonna be funny, right? With Em Nide, I think it was just that he was a famous

successful guy from Philly. Yeah, who makes all of his movies in Philly. Who makes all of his movies in Philly. So we're like, well, our teachers could potentially have access to this. Yeah, yeah, that's, and they would be aware of him. Do you remember where Dolph Lungerin, specifically, like, why you centered on Dolph Lungerin as a,

I think, as I think that carried through to Sonny, like, about being your sort of favorite action star? I think probably just because Rocky IV was such an iconic movie at the time, and then certainly for these characters, and we'd already established it as that. Yeah, I mean, we started talking about that in season two. Here's Sunny Fan Fiction. That would might be fun to kind of think about.

By the time we were pitching this movie, had we already shot lethal weapon seven, our characters. Oh, oh, oh. You know, in the end, in a lot of our characters. In the timeline. In the time? Yes, probably. Because that doesn't that, oh, yeah, in the time. In the time. In the time. Yes, probably. Yeah, because that doesn't that, oh, no, not seven.

I think the first one we did was what, lethal weapon? Five, six, six. I can't even remember. But whatever the first one is you're talking about, right? Yeah, yeah. I imagine it was because I think we did the first lethal weapon episode in season six, didn't we? You know what would be fun, fun to do. Maybe for a fan to do.

This actually seems like something Meg would love to do is to build a sunny chronology from birth until like where we stand now. Because we play so many things out of timeline. And we talk back to the good old days of when this might have happened or when this happened. I saw like what you said. We met Schmitty throwing rocks at trains. We talked back to the good old days of when this might have happened or when this happened. I have a question. What's your name? We met Schmitty throwing rocks at trains, you know, where we met. I would think.

Yeah. Yes. What years? That either they had already shot, lethal weapons, they probably had. I think they probably had. They had already shot it. They shot it. They shot it immediately after this whole episode of Debian and his second swing.

And we're like, yeah, you know what? We should make a movie. A sequel would be easier. We're just going to be a sequel. Yeah, we don't have to come out with it like whole golf. Yeah. I think that in this episode, my two favorite scenes are the one of Mac and Charlie brainstorming

the idea for the movie, which is so funny. And it really captures that feeling in a writer's room where you feel like you get on a roll and then you're all like fire and people are throwing up. Yes, and you're getting so excited about it. And then that one person goes a little too far. And you're like, well, it was kind of like me watching that to be like, this kind of does mirror our relationship where how many times have we been in a room kind of pitching ideas and getting each other excited about an idea, like many, many times, for many, many, many years.

We both have the realization at the same time, we've got something here and we gotta get it on paper. Yeah, yeah. Because I want the movie to be big, right? And like a box office smash, and we wanna put like a lot of meat in the seats, you know? Yeah, you know what I'm thinking, dude? You know what I'm thinking, dude? You know what I'm thinking?

Something that's happening in Hollywood that's like pretty cool. They take an underrated actor, right? Who's careers in a slump and then they make him a star again. Oh, that is awesome, right? Yeah. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, so who is the most underrated actor of all time? It's Doth Lungren.

Correct. Why? Well, because of his spiky hair and his eyes cold demeanor and his big muscle. Absolutely. Okay. Alright, so we have our actor. Okay, his eyes cold demeanor, and his big muscle. Absolutely. Okay, all right, all right, so we have our actor. Okay, that's great. Now we need a really great role for him. Oh, you know what I was thinking?

Scientists are cool. What if he's a scientist? Okay, okay, a muscular scientist. I'm into that. Right. As long as we don't cover up that body with lab copral. Oh, dude, he's wearing like a hot mesh tank top. I like that.

Now does he like fight crime or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He fights crime with his brain and his brawn. Should we be riding this down? Let's go, let's go, let's go. All right. But it also I think mirrors like you seem to, you know, Charlie seems to be like pure like creative kind of output with no structure.

I'm so sure. No filter structure at all. And then Mac is sort of like, well, let's put that in just a bit of your madness. Just run around like a dog. And then the other great one is the pitch, the pitch scene where they are then pitching to Dennis. That is it. That is it. That's the one I think.

That's the one I think is the scene in the trailer. In the trailer. And Danny That's the one I think. That's the one I think. And the scene in the trailer. In the trailer. And Danny in that scene is amazing too. All right, you guys got 30 seconds. Blow my mind. Oh, okay, okay, okay. All right, okay, okay, guys, guys. It's a prequel to the sixth sense.

The fifth sense, the sense of smell. Imagine a super ripped, super smart scientist in a mesh tank top. Name Dr. Dolph Lunger. No, that's not his name. He's played by Dolph Lunger, but that's not the character name. No, it could be the character's name. No, that's a doctor played by Dolph Lunger and named Dolph Lunger. Yeah! That's confusing. That's more confusing than making up an entirely new name for a person. That's gonna confuse people. I'm taking over. I'm taking over. You are losing me. Okay.

Okay, ah, ah, ah, ah. Imagine a super smart, ripped scientist played by Dolph Lungren, who, after a terrible accident in his lab, blows off his nose. After reconstructive surgery, he soon realizes that he smells something that stinks. Criiiiight. But I think what makes it for me is so stupid, but the crumpled papers that you're all holding, the like, the loose leaf paper that you're just just like, it's all a mess and you're holding onto it. Well, we gotta get, there's genius here.

And we just got to get somebody to put it in order. Yeah, type it up. Yeah, type it up, get it in order. Yeah, it's fun. Those two scenes for me, super funny. Danny with the sausages in the beginning. Great. But yeah, the whole, the episode itself,

like, wasn't my favorite, like, from a structure, like the story standpoint. But, I don't know. But it's funny. It's just funny. It's just funny. And yeah, that speech that we wrote for Dennis, it's just still, I remember,

it was just one of those things where as an actor where you're just like, oh man, this is like, this is exactly what I wanna do. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you have those moments where you have a thing, and you're like, you have this moment where you step outside of yourself or you're able to reconnect with the child inside you

who wanted to become a professional actor and go, oh my God, I get to deliver this speech. Like, this is so funny. But I get to, I get to deliver this speech, like this is so funny. Now, in terms of the story, clearly it's brilliant. It's amazing. Great idea. And I like it a lot. A brilliant idea.

But there is one critical element that's missing. It needs a sexual punch up. We need to get a female lead character in there that Dolph can bang throughout the whole movie. Yeah, I kind of hate women, though. Oh. I feel like they just slow action movies down too. Right.

No, Maxie, you're dead wrong on that. You're dead wrong. See, one of the problems with Shamalon's movies is that they lack a certain eroticism. What if we were to bring an incredibly hot but skeptical female lab partner into the mix? And then that way, whenever Dolce not outbust in heads because he smelled crime, he's back at the lab

performing outrageous sexual experiments on her supple young body. Now here's the twist, and there is a twist. We show it. We show all of it. Because what's the one major thing missing from all action movies these days, guys? Full penetration. Guys, we're gonna show full penetration. What's the one major thing missing from all action movies these days, guys?

Full penetration. Guys, we're gonna show full penetration and we're gonna show a lot of it. And we were talking, you know, graphic scenes of Dolph Longwood really going to town on this hot young lab tech. From behind 69, anal, vaginal, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, all the hits, all the big ones, all the good ones, and then he smells crime again He's outbusting heads then he's back to the lab for some more full penetration Smells crime back to the lab full penetration crime penetration crime full penetration

Crime penetration and this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends And then it became a part of our every day vernacular. Yeah, the end of ends. And then it became a part of our everyday vernacular. Yeah, the end of it. Yeah, that it just sort of goes on and on. That's what it was. That moment. Sort of ends. Sort of ends, which is how people would think of a movie, you know, or a TV show or any story. It's somebody who doesn't know. There's a beginning. There's a middle. A bunch of things happen. I mean, we set that up in the very beginning. We're just telling a series of events that happen and then it ends.

And that's a story. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. It's the way you tell it. And then you say, the way you told it was by far the worst part. But also within that big speech, I also love it. It's just such a silly little thing, but you say, all the hits, all the best ones, all the good ones. All the big speech. I also love it. It's just such a silly little thing, but you say all the hits, all the best ones, all the big ones. All the big ones. All the big ones.

That's one. That's an epic. Yeah, all the big moves. Yeah. All the main such moves. Also, Charlie, thinking the twist of the sixth sense is that that guy in the hairpiece was Bruce Willis. That was a joke. I remember being in there from the original outline, like all the way. Yes. Someone that Charlie watched the sixth sense, not knowing that that was Bruce Willis, because he had hair. Because he had hair. Because he had hair.

So he didn't know that was Bruce Willis. And then the claim doesn't have that much hair. No, exactly. And then he sees the movie and he realizes at the end, he's like, oh my God, that's Bruce Willis. And I think that's the, but it's just because that's the, that was when he realized that it was Bruce Willis. And so that was in his mind. Instead, instead, instead of that guy.

You know what's amazing in that is Donnie Walberg. Yes. Can we give it up for Donnie Walberg who is incredible in that film? Give it up. All right. He had the right stuff. Donnie Walberg. Wahlberg who is incredible in that film? Give it up. All right. He had the right stuff. Danny Wahlberg.

Yeah. He's great in that movie. That movie again. I have to watch that movie a long time. I should rewatch that movie. What over my head? Well, yeah, I'm just saying that. I'm not going to be funny.

It's fine. I said, I said, Donnie had the right stuff. Yeah. The right stuff. I said it. Okay. You just, oh, so you got it, you just didn't care. You just didn't care for it.

Um, it's fine. We know it was fine, it was fine. It was fine. Yeah, no, it was a joke and it was fine. It was fine. It wasn't worth slowing down. It was not worth trying. It wasn't worth slowing down.

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in the judgment. I'm not even judgment. I'm judgment. Was that in the script or did you just have an extra that day you came to? No, I didn't. I mean, sounds like it was scripted. That's like scripted. Oh, yeah.

It must have been because the feature of the lady, so I think it is still a feature of extra. It is still a feature of the ladies, so. Yeah, okay. I think he's a featured extra. It is still. He's a featured extra. He's a featured extra. Mac hating women was not in the scripts. That was, I remember that specifically. Well, and you're, because your reaction to it is like you're expecting him to say something that you're 100% on board with.

He starts to say something. You've got the pen in your hand and you're pointing to him. You're like, and then he says that and you're like, oh, that's what I thought. I think there's even out takes of that. I think the line was something like women always ruin action movies. Slow down. Yeah, they slow down movies, which I follow up with, but yeah, I lead with I kind of hate women though.

Yeah, I think. And then just leave it at that. I started to go that way with your character right around there. Yeah, we planted a flag right there. Yeah, yeah, at the time it didn't it didn't have as much significance as it was just pure misogynist. Yes, just pure misogynist. Yeah, that was like that was just misogynist from there, you know, but it's just a character had it looked into why he hates women. Yes, exactly, exactly.

Right. And, and, but so that's like a complete lack of awareness as to how offensive that could be to some people. Also, and how you deliver it, it's just kind of like, I kind of hate women though. Yeah. But you know, but just you guys get you get you get you guys hate women too. Yeah. So, you know, can we not? Yeah. Uh, I mean, the, the lack of-reflection for all the characters is speaking of hate and women, Caitlin. Oh, she's in there. Yeah, herni here, folks.

The way that we would shoot that now would be completely different. At the time, we didn't even think about the fact that there was four or five different scenes in four different locations with hair wearing all of that makeup, that blood. So she put it on in the morning and then had to shoot all of and had to wear it all day. Like you can't even go sit in a chair without sticking that. We would never do that. We would shoot all of her stuff in a short amount of time as we post it. It's just so sticky and like yeah, you sit down to have lunch and you're just like solidify.

And then you made her go face down on like a concrete one. That was a producer knowing it would be cheaper to get all the shots in that location that day. And I was still being young enough to let the producer get away with that. I was just like, I'm gonna produce, I don't care if you stick you all day, we're gonna get this thing done.

And the most efficient cost cost cost effect. Yeah, do you guys know the Lex Medlin played the AD that was great dealing with, did you see like a friend of yours? No, I think that was just an audition situation, right? Yeah, I mean, I is so good in that episode. He's fantastic. But everybody else in the crew, it was fun. But did you notice that the rest of the crew that was standing around was our actual crew?

And I was trying to think if I could remember a lot of the names because it was people from years ago. So there's a whole lineup at some point behind them, including the killer guy. I saw the KO lighting thing in the back of the, yeah. So K.O.s are our gaffer and his dad was, he was the dad. K.O.s the death. Keith Orifice, his son Jared Orifice. The Orifice family. And his dad passed away during the run of the show. So they wanted to come in on that.

No, I just remember the last name of Orifice before. You have. It's a new one for me. It's a new Orifice for me. You wonder, like, where? Because, like, didn't a lot of last names that came from, like, what you did for a living? You know what I mean? Like, where did Orifice come from?

You know what I mean? Like, what did that guy do? What did his ancestors do for a living? That they had theirs. It was probably some beautiful name from another country. Right, what a feature. What a feature. What a feature.

What a feature. This Italian for opening. Yeah. There you go. A grand opening. Or like a sea creature. The beautiful, what a feature. Just swim up in the beach.

Here's one little creative cheat that we've done several times where when you start to see the movie within the movie, it's like a fully produced movie. You're hearing the music and the score and the machine gun fire. I'm not a fan of the movie. I'm not a fan of the movie. I'm not a fan of the movie. I'm not a fan of the movie. I'm not a fan of the movie. I'm not a fan of the movie. I'm not a fan of the movie score. But I think because you don't have character lines,

you don't have dialogue. Comedically, it feels like she's ruining more when it's, yes, yes, yes, yes. I think that's what it is. When she's ruining it, it's funnier if she's ruining it as you're watching it. I think too, because the shot itself, we hadn't scripted anything for it, right?

So it's just like, we let Randall kind of probably come up with what it was. And it was just, you know, guys walking with some machine guns. And it probably in the editing room was like a little boring to be like, well, nothing much is happening. So like you said, she's not ruining much versus like if it had been, like an intense dialogue scene or something in the camera, went by the people like talking and then she sang brains in the shot, you know, but it was also, but that was also what was supposed

to be funny about it too. It's just like this is just a second unit. Oh yeah, that's right, right? Right. This isn't even that important. It's supposed to be an easy shot to get. Yeah, it's just a quick shot where we're showing all these poor people, their dead bodies.

Like that's all it really is. Mm-hmm. And then she's just really angry. Have you guys ever ruined a scene by having your phone rang in the middle of it? Well, Glenn's phone rang earlier. I knew it was happening in the hot house today. Yeah, yeah. And it's so loud.

I never tried to really do it. I mean, I've seen it happen a million times, but you can see, you could probably do a super cut of the amount of times that you'll see. One of us, like in the middle of a scene in sunny, and we just like reach out on our pocket, you could probably do a super cut of the amount of times that you'll see one of us in the middle of a scene in sunny and we just like reach out to our pocket and then just do that.

You just click it. Just click it. Yeah, because it's vibrating. It's vibrating. So like you're in the middle of a scene and you just like keep going with the scene. It's a real promo. That's a real promo.

You could probably scow or movies and TV shows and find that. That's so bad happening. Yeah, that'd be a fun super cut. Actually, if somebody could really, that would take a lot of work. That's something for the AI to find. That's something for the AI for the world.

That's the kind of thing that AI is gonna be really good for as far as I'm concerned, is like scouring the internet for moments like that. Something that a human being just could never possibly have the patience to do. I don't think, God, I hope not. If you got that kind of time in your hands. Wow. I'm looking at the timetable and we have not too long left. So I feel like we should and this should just sort of end. You want to argue? Did you want to talk about over-hydration?

Yeah. Are you talking about over hydration because I got into I got I was I was excited to come to the podcast because I said to Caitlin Glenn and I got into a fight last time and I still don't believe that I've been heard. The following content has been edited for time. You're welcome. for time. You're welcome. People who are concerned with their hydration are not drinking when they're thirsty only. They are forcing fluids because they believe that they're supposed to. Now, I imagine, I can only imagine that part of viewers excited to bring this up because you thought I was going to have some sort of retort to the effect of- No, no, no, where my mind went to was where I feel like

the missing piece of our argument, maybe this was resolved, I don't really know. First of all, I never remember thinking, reading, hearing, and certainly not saying that coffee was poison, but if you say I said it, I guess maybe I did? Well, of course, there's a limit to how much water you can drink, right? If you start drink, right? If you start drinking water right now and you don't stop,

you will drown. Of course, of course. I'm just trying to understand how you can't see something. But why do I care about that? I don't know. This back and forth has gone up for a while. I don't know. What are we trying to do?

Yeah, right. I'm all for it. Keep going back and forth. How much water do you have to drink to kill yourselves? I wonder how many times we can have this conversation on the podcast and have it remain interesting. Boy, and I miss you guys. This has been great. I do have to wrap it up because we have time constraints today.

And so unfortunately, this is where it has to end. I know satisfaction. No satisfaction. No satisfaction. Just a cliffhanger. Maybe a cliffhanger, I don't know. Maybe that's good. We'll be back to talk more about.

Let's not. What we disagree. Let's not. Let's not. you