The Always Sunny Podcast - The Gang Gets Held Hostage

Episode Date: March 21, 2022

Damn you, Poseidon!

Um, well, you know, how, what about daylight savings? Let's give it a that too. What the fuck? Once a year, it comes up, and then there's a movement where everybody complains about it, and then you have, like, some weirdo politician who's like, I'm my sole platform. I'm gonna run on the sole platform of, like,

getting rid of this. And then, then we forget about it. And I'm sure it's been talked about on a lot of other podcasts, but why does it not happen? We don't want it. Nobody wants it. Nobody likes it. Somebody. Farmers. Somebody.

That's what we keep hearing. Why the fuck would a farmer like it? Farmers like, I got to get up early. I can't get up even earlier. I didn't get up in this goddamn corner. What is, what is going on? The sun's not changing, we're changing. What are we doing?

What is, I don't know. What is it? We're gonna have for a second. That was pretty good. I think we should have a whole call-in show about whether or not, about whether or not, like, truly what is going on with, with, I'll tell you what, if you're a politician

and you're running on daylight savings, that's going to get some more. Well, I think it's more of a joke, I think it's more of a joke, but it actually does rile people up. Because no, I haven't ever talked to anybody. Have you ever talked to one person who's like, man, I'm super psyched about, about changing them clocks?

You are. You are. You're one of them. Well, I like to fall back. I like to fall back. You like that extra sleep, but don't you? An extra hour of sleep. Yeah, but you like it. One for one day.

I don't like springing forward. Yeah, but you like looking at your clock and you're like, oh, it's 430, all the sun just went down. No. Yeah, right. Okay. Well, nobody likes that. Well, then.

Okay. So that, but that's the vast majority of it. You just, but it's all worth it for the one day. But I'm also not a huge fan of the sun. Is that's not clear from my complexion. So we should get rid of the sun. I do sort of feel like that's the real problem is the sun. I mean, you know what I mean?

We're headed that way. We're headed to, to, to people wanting to cancel the sun being like, it gives you fucking cancer. Enough of the sun. Yeah, right. Enough of this sun. Let's cancel the sun. Let's get rid of it.

That's where we're going. Yeah. I like that plan. Well, look, the sun does give you cancer. It also gives us life. Let's learn to live with the sun guys. Right. But what is the daylight savings time giving us?

It's giving us nothing. No, I'm with you guys. I think it should be right. And every year it's a, it's a topic of conversation for a couple of days. People get riled up. You see it on social media. Everyone's like, why are we doing this again?

And then someone else is like, well, actually, the reason why we're doing this is because nobody gives a shit. Oh, nobody gives a shit. Now, was that a science? No, it was a stupid science pitch. Trying to make. Is that a stupid science?

I'm more sorry. This is me pretending to know what I'm talking about, which I don't. Well, you do. I mean, you're a person living in a world. That has an opinion and I'm sure there is a valid reason out there. And every year I'm like, I'm going to look it up and then

I'm like, I don't fuck. Oh, yeah. Isn't there like a state that doesn't do like Arizona doesn't do some places that there are some places that don't do it, which, you know, kind of proves your point to a degree, which is then even more confusing as we become more of a connected society all over the world, where like the time zones are like, what time is it there?

It's KS. It's KS. I think you should do a deep dive on it and really try to figure out the reason for it. OK, right. Really weigh the pros and cons in an educated. And then let's have a call in show. Right.

Yeah, you don't not about daylight saving. Well, well, listen to the call. We have to have some structure to that because that was that was fun, but it was. It was chaos. It was chaos, which is OK for the first one. But now I think we have to. Yeah, well, well, we'll come up with something that people can

specifically ask us that will be entertaining to hear people asking. I think if we had a call in show about daylight savings, there wouldn't be enough conflict. Well, I think you're going to have a hundred percent of the audience. I agree. I agree.

Why are we doing this? This is the dumbest thing ever. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you know what's entertaining? Getting help hostage. I love this episode. It's interesting.

So it's interesting. I remember loving this episode. I remember hating it. Oh, yeah. I always loved this episode. Always loved it. And last night I watched it and I was like, no, I still like it.

I still think it's funny, but I don't know. I mean, it's our first departure episode, right? The first time we took the format of the show and well, I did it like because it's almost. Yeah. You know, we're using different music. We're using and truly at this point, the characters are not real human beings.

Well, we're presenting people who are actively like trying to get the other characters killed. Yeah. Right. Which is like, it's a bit broad. It's raw. It's super broad. And I remember at the time being like, is this really the

direction of the show? When it turned out, yes. Yeah. And for good reason. Yeah. Yeah. So I saw one of those lists like, I don't know. It's like Collider or something of like best episode from

each season. And for this season, they had picked the gang. It's held hostage. Interesting. I don't agree. Well, I don't agree. I don't think it's our best episode. I was kind of like, I laughed enough that I made it work,

but I was also like, what are, what were we doing? I enjoyed it. I am almost enjoyed it more for nostalgic purposes. Like I, because I loved that episode so much when we were making it and when we were editing it. Although I do remember that the problem was we got in the editing room, we put that episode together and we were like, this does not work at all.

And that's why we're using sunny music probably using the same music we always use. And we realized we were, we just did it as an experiment. We were like, why don't you just take a bunch of action movie music and we had our editor just cut a version with a bunch of action movie music in it and all of a sudden it worked. Yeah. I did think about that watching it about how the creative

process leads you often. Like we don't go in there necessarily saying we're going to do something with action music. That's good. Sometimes we do. Sometimes we have a very specific idea like that, like this ski episode where we're like, we're going to spoof those ski movies and we'll probably use ski movie music and movie.

But for this one, it was just like, we're going to tell a story about this happening and we're going to reference diehard a little bit and then we get in the editing room and we're like, well, we just can't use our regular music. It doesn't work. Yeah. So we have to search around. We find something that works and then and then that becomes

the reality for that. You know, that's that's how we we get there. We don't really have sort of some preconceived idea of how we're going to get there. It's just we keep trying things and then what seems to be right reveals itself to us. I don't know if that's interesting to listen to. No, it is a man.

I think I do think I mean, it's also it is interesting though how much music really does influence your experience of something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, do you see those cuts where they I know you have where they take the shining? Yeah.

And then they cut it to Peter Gabriel's self-reheal. Yeah, or they take out a laugh track on certain sitcoms. Even sitcoms you love. Oh, that's great. Yes. That's great. Seinfeld or friends like shows I love. I would love and they take a laugh track out.

It's just big holes. It's so weird. Yeah, that's just great. That idea that necessity drives innovation to a certain point, right? Where you're like, well, we we fucked this up and now it's necessary for us to try to fix it. And then we figure out a different way.

Maybe we should put a different soundtrack over covid. You know what I mean? Just put a different soundtrack over it. What is the soundtrack of covid? Well, I think the soundtrack of covid right now is like, and maybe it should be. Maybe maybe you can. I don't know.

Maybe you can shine shine a little sunshine on lighten up all the death. Yeah, well, or focus on the positive parts of it. All the people that live. Yeah, look at all the people that live. So many people live. I don't know. I mean, just a thought, you know, maybe maybe if when we talk about covid on the news, you know, we play

like something jolly in the background like like Christmas music and shit, you know, or like do that do a war do it with social turmoil. Right. Like that's what we do with sunny in the beginning. We were like, well, this is dark. If we go dark with it, it's not going to work. So let's lighten it up.

Let's play leave it to beaver music and it works. So it works on it's always sunny. It's do it. Let's do it on the news. It will be more relaxed. You know, let's really fuck with people on when they tell good news, then you put dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot like we've cured cancer, but it's like, you know, I mean,

something else is going to pop up or whatever. Yeah, you never know. Is that music place it? Yeah. There's a thing where the guns are rubber at the end. Yeah. But there's a thing where D grabs it and it's so real. So I guess you'd have to be like, well, there was like one

kind of proper real ish gun. The other one was rubber. Okay. Do you remember this? I think it was this episode. I think it was this episode where we got to the editing room and we had slowed down that footage. Yeah.

And where he says we're all right. And so it's really funny where he falls to the ground. I told us hilarious. So we're in the like mixed studio or whatever. And we're like, okay, great. So we want to slow down. I do remember this. I remember and then and the guy was like, you can't do that.

It can't be done. It just can't be done. And we were like, no, no, it can be done. Like you slower down to match what's happening. No, that's just like, it's just like not possible. It was we're like, we're not making that up. We've stole like we're stealing it from. Yeah.

Yeah. Things we've seen. No, it's only been done a thousand times. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Has it not been done here because it's like, but like.

Well, this is a man whose job it is to do Sam stuff. Yes. And it kept coming out like. No. Yeah, well, not that, not whatever that is like the thing you've heard in the movie is amazing how often that that will happen where people are like all the time is just not possible.

Oh, now my biggest pet beef is on set where you characterize a microphone and some sound guys like, so we'll put in the echo effect in the room after. So let's not actually have the microphone on and then they can't do it. It's like just turn the fucking microphone on and we'll record that. Yeah.

An example of that is also in this episode two where you can clearly hear that I'm off camera talking to Frank in the walkie talkie. Yeah. And I remember that was real. Like I was just off camera actually doing and I remember that every this big discussion at the production meeting like well, we'll just put it in later.

I'm like, why would we do that? Why don't we just do it right now? Yeah. Just holding a walkie talkie. Well, you can hear it. It's just going to look like something later or a sound or look like something I'm always like, no, let's just make it sound and look like it now.

Yes. And so that I know we like when people like, oh, well, that's not going to look like that. But it does look like it. I can see it destroying the illusion of Hollywood for a second. When somebody walks in with a with a paper bag just just so you're always I love a grocery paper bag.

Anytime you see one out TV or movies except for on our show, it is made out of this material that is on of this earth. It's amazing material. It's amazing material. It's some kind of like plastic. It's not a real bag. And the reason is because at some point this sound department colluded with the aliens department and said, we can't

have real bags on the set because they crinkle and they make too much noise. They sound like back. They sound like bags. So what we'll do is we'll have you get these fake ones that don't really upon inspection don't really look like it and also don't have the properties of the bags. They don't look like a bag and then we'll put it in post.

Yeah. So all the sounds that you could get will pay for later to add in to not actually have them on set. Right. Why? Why do we have the boom guy who like either always had a cold a perpetual cold or talked about this on the podcast. Yeah.

Now we have. Yeah, I didn't want to say I don't know that's different than we've talked about this before. I'm saying we've actually talked about this on a podcast. Yes. I never want to challenge what we have or have. It's you know, arguing for me. If you tell me we have it, I'm sure that we have.

And by the way, I still I I'd be down to hear that story because it makes me fucking laugh. I think it's hilarious, but I was no, but yeah, that was no, but yeah, no, but as opposed to. Yeah, well, it was no, we are ready. It was what it was. We already know we are ready. Yeah, which is fine.

Yeah. So you already said that line, man. You don't need to say it again. Yeah. Yeah. I do enjoy. There's ADR in this episode too. I caught two ADR.

Go ahead. Well, where there were two of them. Okay. I kind of want to challenge the audience and I like, okay, so it's it's one of one of them is my line and one of them is Jimmy's line and it might be interesting to see if people can identify it because it was clear to me because ADR is always like clear if you know, if you remember it and yeah,

and they I don't know if the audience would know. Okay, so you're going to challenge the audience to try to take out those ADR moments. Yeah, but was it does it pop out enough to where people are actually going to be able to pick out that that was not production? I don't know. Well, maybe that's a that's a good you guys didn't pick up

on it again. So maybe that's a good sign that it was well, it's I don't know that it's that I didn't pick up on it as much as that didn't feel like it was worthy to talk about, but I'm not saying it. Oh, you touched his hand. You touched Rob's hand and it's so uncommon for you guys to touch me.

I don't mind being. Yeah, me either. I like touching. I but I feel like whenever I touch definitely Charlie, which we talked about. Yeah, but Glenn even isn't it funny how like I feel like of the three of us like you're the most approachable and sort of like the the most lovable the most lovable of the three of

us and yet like and I'm probably the least and yet like in real life. I enjoy touch. I think more than even you guys definitely more than you maybe even more than you might be afraid of your touch. I think when people meet me in real life, they can feel that my energy isn't quite what it is when they I always expect like if I get approached by a fan of the show, like I always

expect them to be a little like this guy going to yell at me. You know, I mean, you might but they don't. Well, I might but it won't be because it won't be because you're it won't be because you're nice. It'll be because you're a dick. But like, you know, but people actually don't feel that way around me and I appreciate that. I don't know you're in their homes, man.

You're in their living room, but they come right up and just touch you. No, no, that that that would be a little a little bit strange. Although I'd be more open to it than you'd think like if COVID weren't such a thing, you know, to me and and somebody like like a fan came up and was like, oh my God, I really like your show. I can I give you a hug?

Fuck yeah. Let's do it. I hug fans all the time. I'm a hugger. I'm fine with a mutually accepted touch situation. It's when it comes out of nowhere when it comes out of nowhere. I just am easily startled.

You know, I'm like, oh, right. You're like something like, you know, like, I don't know. We were like a cobra. I was gonna say like a muskrat. Both are ready to strike at any moment. Right. Yeah, I'm ready to scramble than I am. I'm ready to scramble.

Yeah, I get out of it in a hostage situation. I find the first one to be out fast. You know, I could get out fast. That's what you do in a hostage situation. What if your friends were in danger? I don't want to know. Have you ever had a gun pointed at you in real life? Uh, God, no.

I mean, other than on a set, no. I have. You really? Yeah. My next door neighbor. A loaded gun. Was it loaded? I didn't ask.

Yeah, yeah. That's just doesn't matter. My neck. I mean, it does matter, but the rule is you're supposed to assume that I was a child. And like, you know, I'm in 1211 and I think we were riding our bikes to our friend's house. And I had this crazy neighbor, man.

And, uh, I guess I rode my bike too close to his truck or whatever, and he pulled a shotgun out, pointed at me and my friends. He goes, I can make you all fade. That's a great fucking line. Yeah. We're like, oh, shit, man. What was it?

Wow. I don't know. I don't know why he had a country accent in Rhode Island, but he did. He did. Yeah. He was probably on the, on the lamb, you know, he's probably hiding out.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was on a lamb. He was on the lamb. He was on the lamb, which just means when you're, when you eat lamb and you're like on the lamb, right? Is that what that means?

Yeah, it's not a good cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that. Yeah, but I was doing, I've had a knife, I've had a knife pulled on me too. I had a knife pulled on me once. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Not, but yeah, in a mugging situation, but it never came anywhere in your, you've been mugged. I've been mugged. I've been mugged twice. Well, also like, I've been beaten up a bunch, but that was less like, it's, this is about, about your getting your money and that was more like the mugging. The muggings were never violent because I just gave them

thing. Right. Because what's worth, but then I've been like, jump, you've been jumped before. I've never been jumped. Oh, really? No. I've never been jumped.

You've never been jumped or mugged? I've been mugged. I've never been jumped. What's the difference between being jumped and being mugged? Well, when you're mugged, someone wants some money from you. When you jump, someone just wants to kick you around. They just want to beat you around.

They just want to beat you around. Yeah. Yeah. And the muggin, you don't really deserve. Sometimes the, the, the, you know, you don't deserve. No, that deserves a word. No, no, a jump. Yeah.

You know what he deserves? Unmotivated fight. I was, I was jumped on the Wildwood boardwalk, like a group, a group of kids being beaten. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

For, for fun. What is this? Not for me. What, what, is this a Jersey? New Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. South Jersey.

Board, the board. Wildwood? Wildwood, New Jersey. Oh, right. Right. Right. Okay. Yeah.

The Wildwood boardwalk. Yeah. Yeah. A group of young, get his vinegar smelling ass. Get that little, get the vinegar getting the spills. Get his ass. Fuck, keep slipping right off him. We should wipe our fish on him.

I'm trying to punch him, but the punches slide right off. I was on a bike. It was even weirder. I was like on a bike and I was like trying to get out. So these are total strangers. Yeah. Total strangers. And they just decided.

Yeah. How old were you? 14. How was a freshman in high school? How bad was the beatdown? Like how bad did it get? It wasn't terrible. It wasn't great.

I just remember like I had a bike and I was like, oh, and then some kid came up and was like, hey, give me some money. And I was like, I don't have any, which I didn't. But it was, and then I could tell like, I was being surrounded and I was like, oh, good. And then there's people everywhere. It's the boardwalk in the summer. The kid, I try to move and the kid sticks his foot like in the

spokes to stop it and stopped it. And then he was going to fuck him up. Well, he was like, ow. And then some other guys like, did you just hurt my brother? And I was like, no, I was just trying. I'm like, now I'm getting my, I know I'm getting beat up. And then I just like turn and the kid whose foot, like who put it in the fucking clock me right off the.

Did they steal your bike? No. So that's why it's not a muggy. So then they kind of stomped on me a little bit. And then of course they'll like kick me. And when I get nothing like serious because we're in, I mean, there was thousands of people on the boardwalk. Yeah.

And then eventually someone's like, Hey, what, what are you doing over there? And then would it? Yeah. Yeah. What are you kids doing? Oh, I saw a crazy fight when I was in Australia and it was like their national like their 4th of July.

I think it's called Australia Day. And they're like these teenagers right outside my house and they were like a couple of them were beating up on this one kid and I thought, all right, I gotta, I gotta go down there and like break it up or something. Right. Like I was like, I gotta, maybe they'll recognize me and they'll stop fighting for a second.

So when was this? This was five years ago or something. I was in, I was doing Pacific Rim two and all right, right. So, um, yeah. And then I realized those kids are going to kick the living shit out of me. Like that weird feeling of like, Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm now at the age where those teenagers, they're, they're

stronger than me. They got more energy. More testosterone kick the fuck out of me. Yeah, but I did start making my way downstairs. And by the time I, I was, I saw them from like an upstairs window of this house I was renting by the time I got down, they were, they were going, but there's a pretty, last time I saw like a good brawl happening.

That's an Australian thing though. Yeah. I mean, let's not be too stereotypical, but every Australian guy, I know, fun, right? Yeah. It sounds fun, right? Next. You're next.

You're going to be my next bit of fun. Yeah. Fuck your head. Brutal. Yeah. No, I mean, the knife, like in New York, I, someone showed me a knife and I was like, what, what do you need? What do you need?

I got you. I give it to you. I remember, yeah, I got mugged. I was with my buddy Sam Whitwer. We were, it was after a birthday party. We were like right near the Roosevelt hotel and beautiful part of these guys. Yeah.

These guys pulled up and, you know, got out of the, it's just kind of a similar situation. They were like, you were like, yo, you got 20 bucks? And, and I was like, no, what are you talking about? And then they pulled the car over and I was like, oh, shit. I actually have that $20 that you. You know what, sir? The aforementioned $20 bill I have.

I just realized I do have that. Is there any way that that's all you're going to take from me? You know, yeah. It's the same thing. I pulled out a knife and, and, you know, I pull, I remember I, I distinctly remember I pulled my wallet out and I opened it because it was a wallet where you could see the cash on the inside and I pulled because I was like, I want them to take my wallet.

I'm going to replace my license, replace my credit cards. That's going to be a whole thing. So I just very like, I showed them, took all the cash out and was like, boom. And I had just gone to the fucking ATM, man. It was like, they got like 300 bucks off me. It was a good, it was a good get. It was a good get.

But, and then, and then it wasn't until afterwards that it like really dawned on me. I'm like, man, what if that had been like a, like an initiation type situation? You know what I mean? Where it was like, not really about little get the, let's get their money, but also like, you know, this guy's been, he's being initiated into, you know, this gang.

And so he has to stab you, you know, maybe there's even apology that an apology that goes before the staffings. I'm sorry, my friend has to stab you, which would have made it maybe slightly better. You know what I mean? It's like, we don't have a choice here. We don't have a choice. There's a reason for it.

That'll be worse. Cause if you knew it was coming, I'd rather be stabbed without knowing it was coming. Right. A sudden stab. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, you're right. If he's like, sorry, I'm about to stab you. Yeah. You're like, oh shit. Yeah. You're anticipating it. That's like that amazing. Speaking of Spielberg always comes in here and he's got that

amazing scene and saving private Ryan where the guy's like, just no, no, don't do this. You don't have to stab me. Don't need like, don't like, let's just go our separate ways. Yeah. And he's like, no, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta do this. Yeah. I wonder what that was like shooting that where, what do you

think it was like shooting that scene? I should talk to him. We should find out from Steven. I think there was like a room guy standing. Go there. I'm going there. Yeah. You want to see Steven's around and we can see forced.

Yeah. I don't want to force it. He's got to let it happen. Sorry. You know what I mean? He never, he never, you can't schedule him. He's like, you know, he's out about doing his thing and then every once in a while you get lucky and pops in, you know.

Yeah. I get it. You just can't force it. Can I ask you guys a question? So let's say you arrived for the podcast today and you know how I come a little bit early to like get set up. You came in and the doors locked and you find out that I've been taken hostage and that the hostage shaker wants to talk

to one of you. So who among you do you think is the best hostage negotiator? Are we talking through the door? We coming in the door. I guess it doesn't matter that much. Let's say you're coming in, but only one. Basically he's got you in this room. He's holding you hostage and we're out there and he's calling

out saying I need to talk to one of you. But you guys get to pick who you're sending in. Right. Who's the one? I'm sending in Charlie. Well, I would say, you know, you and Rob spend the most time together with the extra work you guys do on Myth of Quest. And I have to be at El Segundo by 11.

So I'm probably sending in Rob and hitting the road just so I can beat the traffic. Well, the traffic's bad. The traffic's bad. I'm going to be paying that get on the 405. It's Super Bowl Sunday. It's going to be hard to get there. If you're from LA, you can understand this.

Yeah, Rob, why don't you hop in there and then I'm going to get a head start on my commute that way I can get there and have a little bite to eat before we get started. I'll tell you what, though, if you need me to call in, I'll call you from the road. No, I think to, OK, but to honestly answer your question to, like, have a rational conversation to, like, de-escalate situation, I think I'm a good de-escalator.

Yeah, I think I'm a Charlie. I think I'm good at understanding people's needs and wants and trying to communicate to those specifically and talk of someone down. Yeah. I'm a crazy sitch. Yeah. But, you know, I don't know.

God forbid I don't want to be in that situation. Who do you think would be the worst negotiator of the three of you? You know. I think Glenn. I think you would be irritated with the person. You'd be like, OK, sir. No.

Wait, wait, wait. Well, hold on a second. Let's look at the three of us and the relationship that we've had over the last 15 years. And think about all the arguments that you two have gotten into. And guess who's right in the middle of it going, I hear you and I hear you.

Let's find some. I'm almost always the hostage negotiator in those situations where it's like we can we can we don't have to get. It's you're smart. You're smart. You're funny. You're funny. Let's figure this out.

I value you. Yeah. It's a lot. It is a lot of that. It's like. I don't know. I feel like I've been in the middle of 20 arguments this way. We can agree that I would not be the best one.

It sounds like that's what you're doing. I actually think you'd be great. Well, look at this. I think you'd be great. You know what? I think for the greatest success, all three of us got to talk and weigh in with our opinion. That's right.

Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's how we start arguing with each other so much that the hostage guy, what do you call it? The hostage taker. The hostage taker? That's it.

We don't have the better word for that. Yeah. There's got to be a better one. I mean, it depends on what he's doing. Is he trying to rob a bank because then he'd be like a robber. Yeah. But if he was just taking hostages. Hans Gruber would be a terrorist.

The hostage. He wasn't a terrorist. The hostage. The hostage. The hostage. The hostage. There's got to be a better word for it. What were you going to say about Hans Gruber?

Well, in the movie Die Hard, which we, in the movie that we're parodying with Frank there, Die Hard, Hans Gruber, they think he is a terrorist at first because he has like political prisoners that he puts on his list of demands. But it turns out he's not. He's just a thief. Yeah. Yeah.

Good stuff. He transitions from... No, I'm serious. It's a great movie. Yeah. It's a good movie. It holds up. It totally holds up.

Glenn, you and your underwear when you D-Rob was a good solid laugh for me. Yeah. Just the way you're kind of holding your body. The posture. And the size underwear that we picked. And you're willing this to just like make that money. You know what I mean?

Like, it was awesome. Yeah. I remember us talking about how we, all of us acknowledging that it would be funnier if they were tidy whiteies. Funnier if they were, you know, if they were pulled up a little too high. You know what I mean? And then, and then as far as the posture goes, there was just something funny about like shoulders back.

Yeah. Shoulders back like, you know, just, there's something sort of like serpentine about it or something. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah. It's sort of very specifically like picking that look and just knowing like that, that was, so it was going to be something funny

about it. I also do enjoy that I say that like I want her inside me. Yeah. I like when you tell her that we're in love now and like we've done it. Yeah. Now we do the thing where you get me out of here. Yeah. Yeah.

Did you like that part? Yeah. I enjoyed that too. I also enjoyed, I also enjoyed your scene with Frank. I liked the, the, the hand. I remember having this conversation with you. We were doing the scene. We're working on the scene.

And I just, I had this vision of like old horror films. Vampire movies. Yes. Old like Dracula movies from like back in the day. And their hands were, were always like, it was like this, you know, one was up and forward and one on one was down. Sweet. And so it was like this, yeah, it's like this wicked kind of thing.

And I'm very glad we did that. We never, we never went back up into that bad room. No. We, we kind of did stuff. No, we should explore that again. At one point we, in Mac and Charlie die, we're kind of in the guts of the building again. You're in the vans.

The bar and the vans and stuff, but we're never. Yeah. And you're on the roof. And there's so many rooms above that bar. We're never up there. Yes. Okay. And don't we say in the episode that we're going to the bar, that we're

going to the roof of patents. He says we're going up to the roof, but we don't go up to the roof. We don't go up to the roof of the building. Next door. Next door to us. Which is kind of a fun mislead. So when he drops, you know, that, that, that joke lands, but. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But, but the reason we did it was because we weren't allowed on the roof of that building and we were allowed on the roof of the building next to it. Yeah. Well, is the Patty's building like too, it's too high up, right? It's like higher up. It's very high up.

Yeah. Yeah. And he would have died. Yeah. The character would have died. I got a question for you guys. What, what was the Genesis? I was thinking about this.

I bet, I bet that this is a situation where we had a card on the board that said Stockholm syndrome and that someone thought it was funny. 100%. That is it. No, that is what happened. Is it? Yeah. Absolutely.

Someone was like, Stockholm syndrome is a funny thing. And that was Lisa. I think that was Lisa Parsons idea. I think you're right. Yeah. That was her idea. And cause I felt like we were leaning really hard in the episode to like explain Stockholm syndrome and talking, and I was like, we're, we're overdoing that, but it's

fun. Yeah. Yeah. There's a, there's a bunch of exposition and we lean into it by having the other character being like, in fact, you do it in the bathroom where you're like, so what's going on? And I start to explain it. And you're like, let's go, let's go. Let's go.

I'm bored. I'm bored. I'm bored. I don't care. And then I just like break it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's some good shit. Yeah. I mean, you had some interesting exposition in the very first scene in the back office when you're, you're, you're essentially you're trying to explain to the audience. Like, you're basically like, it's like somewhere along the way, somebody went, the audience is going to wonder why he's got to go up there to actually get the will when he could just sit down with a lawyer and redraft a new version. And so you actually have that conversation with them.

Yes. Frank, why don't you just sit down with a lawyer and, you know, have him redraft the one he's like, don't, don't ask too many questions. It doesn't matter. Yeah. In the audience, basically the audience doesn't care. Just get him up into the goddamn act. Yeah.

Shutting that, shutting down that one guy in the audience is like, wait, why is he doing they see it? Well, Rob, how did we do the fart in your face? Were you looking into my butt? Yeah. He didn't have his undies down. No, I don't think you had your, your undies down. I don't think, I don't think so.

God, that would have been great. You won't stare at his actual asshole. I just remember what was great. How the hell else then do you see the side of my butt cheek like that? I didn't, I didn't look again. I didn't look so close. Maybe I was. You must have been looking directly into my butt.

But I definitely remember in the editing, because I couldn't see your face. Like your face is the funniest part of it. Yeah. The end of the audience knowing that like what, seeing that time. Yes. And then whatever it was, we had an idea where, yeah, like you wouldn't see me and then I would like, I would duck my head out, you know, for a line and then come back and I know that's in the bloopers.

Very, very happy with the fart noise that we chose. The squeaky kind of squeaky airy one rather than a, than a rumbling one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. It's always interesting and whenever like the idea of like putting a fart in comes up, you see Rob go, you know, there's just this part of you is like, you, you, you don't like

it, but you recognize that it's funny and you know where it's needed and you're willing to do it, but you don't really like it. Well, normally a fart joke is pretty damn lazy and not so great, but in this, it's a good setup for a fart joke. It's a good, a fart as revenge is funnier than just. But also as you say in the episode, you're like, and we might die and I never got to fart you. Yes.

So this is something he's been horrible. Just wish fulfillment. Yes. Just wish fulfillment. So you've been, you know, fantasizing about for a very long time and you've never gotten to do it and you're like, never got to do it. And I think that was improvised some of that. I don't think that was in the script.

I don't know. I don't remember for sure. Also at the, at the very end, when, and just like every episode at this time period, we just end it just so abruptly. And we, we realized there's no police outside and we're like, what, what, what is this? What was all this? And all he says is nobody messes with the McPoyles. Yeah.

And that was it. That was the whole point of the entire. We should, I mean, we should, we probably should have put in something about like, this is for this is for Doyle. Yeah. So that people knew what the fuck revenge it was. It was only two episodes earlier. Yeah.

That's true. I will say that I caught that too. I was like, oh, we were connecting things in this season, which we didn't really do again for quite some time. I like a little bit here and there, but you know, we're connecting the will and Barbara dying and where the money's going to go. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I, I like that. I mean, there, there should be a little bit of continuity to that, to that story, especially when there's like big life things that, that happen. I mean, especially we got into it like a thing just for the listener at home that we would make the episodes and then the network would kind of weigh in, oh, we want this one to go first and this one. And so we started to lean away from connecting them too much, just in case one came out great

and we weren't opposed to their approach. They always wanted to front load the best episodes because they figured that was the best way to continue to build the audience and yeah, they weren't wrong, right? So if we made 10 and one was amazing, we're like, yeah, well, let's get it in the first one or two, you know, yeah, but I think we also got a great note from them after this episode, which I remember they, they liked, but then it was also around the same time that we started talking about the, which I believe is the next episode, when's, when's the one where, um, where you guys pretend to be cops making a mess, uh, that's coming

up. That's gotta be coming up. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember. And, and we did like a Serpico thing and I remember like that script, they had gotten that script and then they had gotten this one and they were like, could you guys are now starting to parody things like, which is fine and don't do too much, don't do too

much parody because if the show lasts for a long time and is in syndication, it's not going to play as well. And if it's die hard, great. And if it's Serpico, great because those are big, those are classics, but we do kind of get into like parodying things later on that we do it again with American Idol, which I have to, I have to imagine is going to feel dated. That's just still on buddy. Yeah.

But it's not like the cultural juggernaut that it was at the time. And so, no, but there's about 500,000 competition, competition shows out there where it's people sitting behind a table. Totally. But we're doing, we're actually imitating the actual character. We could talk about that when we, when we get there, but yeah, I think it was a good move to not, well, not parody so much speaking of parodying though, one of my favorite lines in this episode, and I do love that we did this is, uh, is when Danny pulls the gun

out and says, yeah, Mr. Falcon, yes, which for those in the know was, you know, so clearly Frank had seen the made for or the edited for TV version of Die Hard because the actual line in the movie is Yippee Ki-Ai motherfucker and can't say that on TV. So the TV edit was Yippee Ki-Ai, Mr. Falcon. Yeah. Mr. Falcon. And it was like a different voice. Like it wasn't Bruce Willis.

So it was like Yippee Ki-Ai, Mr. Falcon. It was like the, you know, the engineer like was like, oh, shit, we missed one line. He never said, oh, I got it. I can do it. I'll do it. Mr. Falcon. Too close to the mic and yeah, Yippee Ki-Ai, Mr. Falcon. I just wonder how that's, there's got to be a better substitute for motherfucker than

Mr. Falcon. There isn't. That's the greatest. I wonder if you could not even mother Falcon like it could have been a mother Falcon. You know, I do like the decision at the time that was like, we can't cut this out. It is the, this is the, the premier line signature line of the movie. That's right. So we can't cut it out, but we got to mix it up.

And then they made that decision probably last minute and it was Mr. Falcon. Does that cut exist somewhere? It has to. Right. What on earth can you say that's not motherfucking that situation? Mother trucker. Awful. Mother sucker.

Okay. So they won't let you do it. They won't let you do it. Mr. Son. Yippee Ki-Ai, Mr. Falcon. It's a different voice. Can we hear that again? You're right.

You're right. Different, whole different thing. Yippee Ki-Ai, Mr. Falcon. Wow. You're right. It was the sound mixer. It was the sound mixer. It was close.

Who was editing. The time up and up is like, oh, shit. They haven't said this one yet, Mr. Falcon. Holy shit, man. You've got a good memory that you remember that that was like, that there was something off about the access. Well, that was just, yeah, that one, that one stuck. That one stuck.

I don't have a good memory. As we've clearly established. Well, can we also talk about the fact that after he says Yippee Ki-Ai, Mr. Falcon and pulls the gun out. He is holding a revolver, which presumably only carries at most six shots. He fires that gun. I think I counted 13 times. There's 13 gunshots that come out of that thing.

Really? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if we just, I don't know if we got in there and we were just like, well, fuck it. It's like, it needs to keep going in order for us to edit the sequence the way we want to edit it. I think I have a big memory of that exact thing where we're like, he needs to keep doing

it for the, to give Ryan the time to like have to, and it, yeah, start to fall off the building. Oh, I think we're talking about in Die Hard. No, no, no. Oh, in our show. No, no. Who gives a shit? I mean, we've established that there's no rules, right?

Like, I think no rules. No rules. Die in Die Hard. No. No. Because that would have been. What are the rules? Yeah.

We'll get to that one too. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Not for like, not for a while. Months and months and months. Not for some time. Yeah.

But what else are you mad about? You know, daylight saving star, are there any other time related issues that you want to talk about? Like. I'm looking forward to it being brighter, longer. Everybody is. Yeah. Everybody.

When do we spring forward? Because we can't get rid of the sun. And the sun. No matter how much Glenn hates it, we have to embrace it. It just, does this happen to you guys? You know, so it, I don't like the sun when it's on me and I'm not intending to do something that like, if I'm at the beach and the sun is on me, of course I'm like, oh, nice, cool, you know, or if I'm like super cold and the sun's warming me up.

But if I'm in a situation where, you know, like I'm standing around and the fucking sun's just on me and I'm like, I'm just trying to have a conversation or I'm like, you know, doing something in the yard or something and the sun's on me, I don't like it. You get angry. What if this is me? It actually heats me up. Like I get, like, I get, I'm like, get the fuck off me, get the fuck off me. It drives me crazy.

It actually fucking, is this, is it my only one? I had a similar experience, like, I don't know, it's 10 years ago when, when we were getting into surfing or seeing if we could learn how to surf and we were in Venice. And I remember I was just terrible and I couldn't get it and I was just getting killed by waves. And I remember at one point I just turned and a wave was coming in that was, that was like about to crash on me and I just fucking, I touched it. Like, and like, which I know is like ridiculous and then I was so pissed off that I was angry at the ocean.

Right. One of the waves. I was dissolved. Just, just. It worked. It worked. But I remember being like, this is a, this is a real concern because you are now angry at the ocean.

And, and look, the ocean's going to win. Well, by the way. Yeah. Ocean wins. Our ancestors, you know, they would have said, well, it's not, you know, they would have been mad at Poseidon. Yeah. You know, for sending that wave that you couldn't surf, you know, you, so you could

have, you could have punched the wave and said, damn you Poseidon or Triton or whoever's in charge of the ocean. Which would have made me feel a little bit better. Right. Yeah. Which Dennis Reynolds at some point should definitely punch the wave and say, damn you Poseidon. Damn you Poseidon.

Yeah. Flamin' on Poseidon. I did. Out by a wave. We should do an episode when we traveled to Hollywood. I feel like that would be a really fun episode. The gang goes to Hollywood or something like that. We should.

We're going to pitch a TV show idea. Our characters are going to pitch an idea, you know, we got an idea for something. And we decide we're like, I never surfed. Yeah. Yeah. You can watch in real time. You can rewind, Charlie. Me pitching a Glenn kind of yes ending and Charlie just being like, I'll say, I'll spare

you guys that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we should go somewhere where we, where we can go get, well, we could go back to the shore, I guess. But we've already done that. Yeah. You know what I mean?

But there's, there is something about, I'm just trying to figure out how to get that scene in there because I do think it would be funny to punch a wave and call out to, you know, be angry at Poseidon. That is, that is pretty fucking fun. Yeah. Or angry at the sun. Hey, speaking of, speaking of sea gods, isn't it interesting that Aquaman has a, what are those things called?

Trident. A trident. But it's got like six prongs on it. It doesn't have three? No, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a. A sextant. Yeah. A sextant.

That's seven. Six. Fish. It's a pentadent. No. He's, he's stabbing more fish to eat. Does he eat fish? Is he?

No, he's not. He's part fish, but fish eat fish. No, he talks to. Mmm. Shit. Yeah. But I don't think he's a predatory fish. I think he, he talks to, he can use.

He eats fish food. He eats those little flakes on the top of the ocean. Yeah. Swims up and just. Yeah. Yeah. You feed, you feed him the same way you'd feed a goldfish. I have not seen Aquaman.

I don't think I will. It's great. But he's. Like, like Spider-Man. Yeah. Like. It's good. I haven't seen him.

I know. Is it the same story? Is it high school? No. And he gets bit by a spider? No. No. It's not an origin story.

Okay. Why are all the new Spider-Man movies about him being, you know, whatever distance he is from, from his home? Yeah. Homecoming, far from home. Yeah. Yeah. Far from home.

Like I can't get home. Yeah. I'm not home now, but call me later. Eight legs and you can't make your way home. You should be able to get home eight times faster. When is he going to have eight legs? Four times faster. He always has to.

Well, yeah. No, I always thought it would be funny to do a movie about somebody that gets bit by a radioactive spider, starts to get all the powers of a spider and it's all good, but then he never stops turning into a spider. I guess that's what the fly is. That's the fly. Well, but he never has any. He never has any cool powers.

Yes, he does. What's this? Crazy strong. Remember, he's just like crazy strong. And then he's like very viral and women find him attractive because he's a half fly. And he touched me. He touched me again. I love you.

I like it. Is that what the expression looking fly came from? I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then the real turn, the real turn happens when and then he can like,

well, then he can throw up on stuff that he can, he can digest things outside of his body. That's a cool power. Well, it was like acid. That's a power I would like. And Jeff Goldblum, what if I could just literally just throw up on my food? I could do that. No.

No, but have it, have that then dissolve the food so I don't have to chew it. And then I can just, you know, slurp it up. That'd be cool. If I can metabolize sugar the way Jeff Goldblum's character can in the fly, that'd be pretty sweet, right? To be able to metabolize sugar that well. Go ahead. What are there?

What are his other powers? That's it. And then it starts to. Then it goes dark. Then it goes dark when he turns into a fucking fly. And then he's begging. Do you remember the end of that movie? So good where he holds the, the guy's got the shotgun.

Yeah. I don't even remember. I just remember him like. If it was his, who, who's the female, the love interest? Cause she wasn't a protagonist, right? So it might be Gina Davis who at the end is like shooting a shotgun. And then she puts it up and like, she lowers it and he's like almost defeated. And he picks up the shotgun and puts it to his head.

Yeah. And then David Cronenberg was like, well, now we have to show it. Cause he's David Cronenberg and that, that fly head just fucking explodes. He's got a thing for exploding heads that David Cronenberg done. Why didn't they just get a big wall of like a sweet smelling sticky paper? Right. Right. And just stick on that.

It's a fly paper. It's some fly paper. Yeah. Because he has the mind of a man and the body of a fly. Or does his mind also start turning into. Well, he has the mind of a man, but the desires of a fly. Does that make sense? So he can think like a man, but his desire is off.

As is often the case with a man, his desires take over and he can't control himself. So yes, he would go straight to that. So your mind and your desires are somehow disconnected. When I'm not saying mine are, I'm saying all men are. As our fly. And that's a fact. And that's a fact. Cut that.

Can I, uh, can I take this opportunity to hold you guys hostage and ask you some questions from Reddit? You're so on theme. I know. I love it. Yeah. What makes us unorganized? You're going to ask us.

So I put a post on Reddit asking people for questions that they wanted to ask you on the podcast. You sneaky devil. Yeah. And I have a couple of them. You guys want to answer? Okay. We'll do a lighting round.

What's the story behind the backwards talking audio clip at the end of each episode? Why do we do it backwards? No idea. I think it was an arbitrary decision. I think, I think we thought it was funny to make a brown joke and then we were. No, the first one was the first one wasn't brown. What was the first one? You're stupid for playing this forward.

Oh, that's what we really wanted to dig in on like telling the audience they were done. They were idiots for watching. It was like a little joke, a little prank. Yeah. And then we was a prank and then it became a theme. Who has this Dennis sex doll? Where is it? Where is that?

I don't know. Are you worried about that? You know, that was an expensive prop. Yeah. Wasn't that a super expensive prop? Yeah. We wanted it done made really well. Now, but somebody's got it.

No, we reached out to, I don't think it was a sex doll though, right? Like, wasn't it? No. Like, so we reached out to a sex doll company. You could treat it like one. Yeah. And it was too expensive. That was way too expensive.

It was way too expensive to actually make it an actual doll. It was also too, like those things were like too heavy. Yeah. I think if you have one of those, you got to like put it on like a little dolly cart to move it around. And we had scenes where we were like carrying it and, you know, so we had, we had just the props. Yeah.

We just built like a dummy and then put a real, did you do a cast for your head like a mold? Like, no, actually, I think I probably should have because that probably would have been better. But what they actually did was they did some sort of like a, I don't know, 3D, like, I remember I had to just sit like this and they did like a thing. The 3D scan. Yeah.

Like a 3D scan. Yeah. And then, and then I did it with different facial expressions. And then they, and then it looked like someone else. If you had it, would you fuck it? I most definitely would not. For absolute certain. Who has the duster?

Does anybody? In a wardrobe warehouse with all our other costumes, it's all being held for the Smithsonian at some point. Yeah. From what I understand, we've gotten many letters from the Smithsonian. Like, when can we get our hands on this? And we're like, oh, no, we're still doing the show. They're like, you are?

Yeah. Okay. Jesus. Let us know when you're done. Christ almighty. Exactly. Yeah. The last question is any episode ideas that you guys wanted to do and FX just said flat

out now? No. I don't think so. No, no, no. No, they've been great partners. They've never. Yeah. Way.

I mean, no. No, no. What was the deal with the, the, the episode, what was the episode that we did in season, I can't remember. What was it? Season six. Yeah. Season six that we scrapped.

And why did we scrap it? You remember? Oh yeah. And then we turned it in Mac. It's that. Yeah. I don't remember. We had avatars for ourselves.

Yes. And the other storyline. I don't remember what the other storyline was. But the reason was because we thought it didn't work and we scrapped it. Right? Yeah. FX didn't want to scrap it. They were like, what?

No. We spent a lot of money. And we said, well, yeah, we'll work it into, you won't waste your money. Yeah. They've been, they've let us do whatever we want. They've been good partners. Yeah. Yeah.

They've been good, creative and professional. Sorry. I wish we had a more fun answer today. Yeah. Sorry. Got that. Yeah. So, since you guys are doing the video podcast now, are they going to see Dong?

There was that question asked a few times. Yeah. A few times. Is it Dong right up there on the wall? Oh, that's true. How much Dong you need? You might see a ding from time to time. I don't know.

Yeah. It's pretty cold. You're going to get more ding. Yeah. This room is freezing. They're all just dings right now. It doesn't matter how much of a dong you've got. Why is it so cold, man?

For raising in here. Yeah. Oh, you got some press to do. Some press. When does the movie come out? When you have a movie coming out. My movie's out. And by the time people hear this, it's out.

Rave reviews, pal. Oh, really? Yeah. My dad saw it. He did. He did. Yeah. He saw it almost right away.

He texted me. He said, I really enjoyed it. And then I forwarded that onto Charlie to, you know, big, biggest head up. It's good. I'm happy with it. You know, that's funny, biggest head up. I did like a, Mary Elizabeth showed me an email the other day that my mom had sent to her.

She was like, and she wrote on it. Really enjoyed Charlie in, I was like on the Kelly Clarkson show and I sang like Midnight Train to Georgia or whatever. It's like really enjoyed his performance. But don't tell him. I don't want his head to get too big. And I just summed up. Wow.

I mean, I'm getting an hour. An hour getting an hour. I mean, that's the whole reason you're probably a performer. Isn't that amazing? That's amazing. That's it. That's it. That's it.

That's it. That's it. It could have been a joke. But I don't think it would. I'm not funny. Your mom, your mom, she ain't funny, but my dad's funny. But I'm ashamed. Yeah.

She's lovely, but I don't know her to be funny. Not that funny. Yeah. Let's get her on the podcast. Oh, no. Ask her about that. Yeah. Yeah.

I wonder why I would. That's all about, huh? Yeah. I mean, my mom grew up around parents who were very like, don't talk about yourself, you know, always be humble, you know, almost to the point of like, if you want something, don't ask for it. If you need something, don't ask for it. That's a very good.

It acts like everything's okay all the time. Yes. Yes. Like my grandmother. It's a withholding kind of thing, which is like, not too much pleasure, not too much disappointment. Right. It's not out of the comfort zone of neutral because this is safe and anything beyond that

is potentially, you know, love. Let's stay here because this is this is dangerous because it's always going to end in, yeah. If you never go for this, you're less likely to get to this. For the listener, you're lifting your hand up and down highs and lows. High is dangerous. Low is also dangerous. Yeah. Stay even.

I will say just to not totally throw my mama under the bus that she did eventually email me and say that. But it may have only been because Mary Elizabeth emailed her back and be like, you should probably tell her. You should tell your son how much you enjoyed his work. That's what she did. Yeah. But she did tell you.

God bless her. Yeah. Do you think she was writing it like this? Like. You know what I mean? Just like pain. Having to type it. Yeah.

Well, what about just calling you and like saying it as opposed to typing it? I don't know. It's the whole thing. Okay. It's the whole East Coast thing, man. Yeah. My mom doesn't like holding the phone up to her. I'm like, just get headphones, man.

Like she's like, it hurts my neck to hold the phone up. So that's why I never call you. That's why episodes with our characters' parents are so goddamn funny because the parent-child relationship is. It's hilarious. It is hilarious. It is hilarious. There's a lot of stuff in there.

Yeah. There's a lot of stuff. A lot of fun stuff in there. Especially my mom on the show. Like how she always annoys my character because they're really funny. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah.

And how your mom is by far the worst and yet you're like convinced that she loved. Like you love the shit out of you. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely adore her. Well, because she loves me right back. Mrs. Mack loves her son Ronald. Man.

Man. Man. Man. I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. That's what I'm saying. I don't give a shit. We should definitely do an episode where Mrs. Mack is trying to spray you with vinegar.

Yeah. For some reason. Yeah. Well, the one word where Dennis punches a wave and you're hitting spray with. All right. We got to go. You're covering yourself in vinegar to. We got to go.

She's like spraying it in my face to get me away from her. But I think she's doing it to like help my tan. Yeah. Yeah. To help your tan. Yeah. We could do one where there's like a city pool that has a wave machine. So that we're like all jazzed up about the wave machine.

You know what I mean? Yeah. She comes there and she's spraying you down and you're you're you're the most excited about the wave machine, but then it turns on you and then. Yeah. I'm talking about the high. The high of being like I'm so excited. I've always wanted to surf.

You know what I mean? I've always wanted to get out there on those big waves. This is a great way to do it. You know, and then the low of discovering that the wave has far more power than you can control. But the only reason I'm pitching the city pools because we've already done an ocean episode, but we've already done it. We've done it.

We've done it. We've done a water park episode. Oh god. Well, I think we did it. Yeah. Do we have any other questions or? I tapped into my parent-child relationship troubles. I'm going to go get in a hot tub because Jesus Christ is cold in here.

Okay. Look at that. I'm going to go get in a hot tub.