The Amelia Project - One More Cocoa

Episode Date: February 16, 2026

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Searchlight Pictures presents in the blink of an eye on Hulu on Disney Plus, a sweeping science fiction drama spanning the Stone Age, the present day, and the distant future, about the essence of what it means to be human, regardless of our place in history. The film is directed by Oscar-winning filmmaker Andrew Stanton and stars Rashida Jones, Kate McKinnon, and David Diggs. Stream in the blink of an eye now only on Hulu on Disney Plus. Sign up at Disneyplus.com. Hello, Amelia listeners. I've got two exciting things to tell you about. First of all, you may remember that last year we performed a live show aboard a boat in London, the Amelia Project Live at the Theatre Ship. A multi-camera film of that show is now available to watch on Patreon, either by becoming a $5 member or for individual purchase. On that note, we're returning to Theatre Ship this August with a brand new. show. It's called Laplace's Demon. We're performing it three times and every time the show will be

different because each time the characters make a decision, we're letting you, the audience, vote on which way the story goes. Tickets are now available and we're offering the first 30 tickets for each of the shows at a 30% discount. Last time we sold out quickly so we do recommend booking early. And if you come cosplaying something or someone from the Amelia Project, we'll provide you with a certificate of fake death. Tickets and more information about everything at ameliapodcast.com. But now for the main reason we're popping up on your feed today, and that's because we now have a companion podcast. One more Coco is a chat podcast featuring nerdy, in-depth conversations about all things Amelia.

It's hosted by Marty Patsyval, who started out as an Amelia superfan, fake their death and came back as our intern, fake their death again and came back as our production assistant and the voice behind the Amelia Project Tumblr, and now in their newest reincarnation, has become a podcaster. You can hear Marty's full story, in their own words, on the first episode of the One More Coco podcast, which has its own feed.

Simply search for One More Coco on any podcast, player and hit subscribe. There are currently three episodes out. Today we're playing you one of those episodes. It's the episode to chair or not to chair about the Amelia Project episode one, Zale Indigo Ravenheart. So cast your minds back to the very beginning of our death faking adventures and enjoy. Congratulations. You have not quite reached the Amelia Project. This podcast is certainly happening. If you continue, however, there is still no way back because here we discuss the plot,

the holds on the plot, the patchworks, the meta, and just all things, Amelia, with a healthy dose of nerdiness and at least one guest each episode. And today's guest is Pigeon. Hi! Do you want to say something?

Hi! I'm so happy to be here. Hi! I'm so happy you're here too. And something I wrote down is just like, Do you realize we've known each other for almost six years now? That is so wild. Do you have a fun fact of the episode for us?

I've realized how much Ellen's voice changed for the interviewer. Oh. Because, yeah, he just grew into this role so, so much over the past few years, and you can really hear it. Well, if you're so confused what you're listening to, you're listening to it, you're listening to the one more co-girl podcast. And I am your host, Marty Parzival. And I think this intro definitely needs work. But it's the best I could come up with. So yay! If we had to summarize the first episode of Zale in Negro Ravenheart, I summarized it as short as possible with cold leader, dug himself into a cannon he now can't back out of. How on earth can that be fixed? And then I told

that to Pigeon. Pigeon was like, you gotta somehow include the to chair or not to chair in the episode summary. And so I was like, you know what? A code leader duck himself into a cannon he now can't back out of. How enough can that be fixed? Certainly not with or without a chair. I would just like to say that this is my favorite episode ever. And I'm wearing my disappearing chair t-shirt that you can find in the merch shop because I just had to. It's a very good-looking t-shirt. Thank you.

And it's just, it is my favorite joke in the universe. There is no chair. There is a chair. What I want is probably impossible. Without faith, nothing is possible. With it, nothing is impossible. Faith? Relax.

Make yourself comfortable. grab a chair. What? Relax, grab a chair. There is no chair. Of course there is. No, there isn't. Ah, you have no faith.

So a fun fact is you and I listened to this together just now, because we thought it would be fun. And, you know, there's, for me, at least, never a reason to pass up some pigeon quality time. And we had a lot of fun. And I love that like when the beeping came in and the intro and rubbed both like a gently sway from side to side. Yeah, because they have to.

Yeah. It's a physical experience. Exactly. The Amelia Project is a comedy podcast. As we all know. Yes. As we all know. And also, of course, it is a workout routine.

exactly is that you know when people say that they like listen to podcasts or doing the dishes or something or like doing a workout you know Pip and Einstein went like actually probably Pip Oistead and Freddie

went like oh my God how can we implement that even harder we just make the intro part of the workout routine I do wonder and I would love more opinions on this. How many people do kind of like gently sway from side to side? I would love to know that too. If there will be comments on this thing, please leave a comment

down below. Do you sway from side to side when you listen to the intro? We need to know for scientific purposes. Speaking of scientific purposes, we also agreed on one thing regarding the computer. Hmm Time to put metaphysics behind us, I think The only thing that'll get you out of that canon alive Is physics Whatever it takes Have you brought the tech specs for the canon?

Excellent What length is the barrel? Um, it's 24 feet Your weight 126 pounds Hight 5 feet 8.11 inches Location for the launch

Edgeworth Common I'll have to check that on a map Everything all right? Computers, pesky things. Still getting used to, got it. It was about that the interviewer cannot type this fast. And he definitely can't type with all ten fingers. Definitely not.

He has never learned the ten finger typing system. And we stand by that. This is an error in this episode. Have you not tried to teach her. Oh, for sure. Right? Like, I'm sure she tried once. Because she is trying to teach him, like, how the computer works.

So I'm sure she has. Yeah. I think the only unrealistic part in this entire episode is that the interviewer can tie up with all 10 fingers. I think everything else checks out or what do you think? I love the, I love the silence of. Well... We're going to have to control your flight and limit the distance you'll be launched.

We'll use gunpowder to make a flash and a bang, but only a small amount and not in the chamber. In place of gunpowder, we'll use a tank of compressed air. Once it's burst, it'll provide the propulsion. I suggest we let Salvatore operate the cannon. He's experienced with firearms, and nobody will dare get near him. Uh-huh. 126 pounds, 5 foot 8.11 inches.

That means... The square of your velocity exiting the barrel is equal to... the square of your velocity at the base of the barrel, plus twice the distance you travel along the barrel multiplied by your acceleration. With a final estimated velocity of 66 miles per hour and an initial velocity of zero meters per second, and taking into account the length of the barrel, which is 7.32 meters, your acceleration comes to 59.6 meters squared. If we raise the barrel 39 degrees, you'll reach an altitude of 23 meters and cover a distance of 59.05 meters. That will get you safely over Blackburn Woods and allow you to land in Wheyo Reservoir. You're a good swimmer?

You could be stretching it. Okay, but you can swim. Mm-hmm. Joey will be out there in a dingy, but it might take a while to find you. We can't pinpoint your landing to the spot. We'll provide you with a whistle. That should make it easier. I do wonder, like, now that we talk about it, if the physics, like, check out.

Like, they talk, like, the interviewer talks so fast. Oh, you? Yeah. Yeah. Right. I can just imagine Zales just sitting there, like, with, like, white eyes, just, like, Not nod, not, not, not. Yes, this is fine.

He's too desperate to get out of the situation. He will not along to anything. He says, I love his reaction to like when the interviewer says that like, let's put metaphysics aside. The only thing that will get us out of is is physics. And Zale just like, whatever it takes, buddy, what has physics ever done to you?

But like, I think Zeyl will be the wrong. person to ask because like like I'm sorry but like if you want to be like shot from a cannon that is like one entire issue but if the earth and antiphon like go on opposite sides of the sun how did he

think that would work like what he like either he would have to go in an orbit or he would have to go like through the sun I'd say around it but also how how would that work

but this is something that can be asked about this whole episode. I mean, he did think about that. Well, probably on cocaine or something. Or cocaine withdrawal. Yeah. Drugs were involved in this. I love that, like, Arthur, like, the interviewer isn't even, like, pointing that part out.

Like, he is so sassy. Oh, he just goes with it. Yeah. But, like, that is not important. he questions. Like, that man had experience. But the thing that I originally thought about was that we actually picked up on a teeny tiny thing that the interviewer says, that is very interesting, the interviewer saying, once our surgeons are done with you, and we listened back to it, we listened to it several times, it is definitely plural.

How and where would you like to come back? I don't know. Once our surgeons are done with you, you'll barely be recognizable. Even so, you don't want to risk being found out. Yeah, he did say sogeons. So what is up with that? Actually, we've got to ask that to Hibnoystein. Like, what was your plan?

It was like the phase where Koslovsky had like, I don't know, two bodies. Just a little experiment. And like one brain half in one party and the other in another. I mean, he would. That's a sad thing. He would. He definitely would do that. Yeah.

I think we don't talk about, we don't talk enough about how many weird experiments Kuzlowski did up until now. I think I have written everything down some, what happened somewhere, but. Yeah, because you're the lawkeeper. I'm one of the law. keepers. No, you are the. It is, it is a definite article. It is the lawkeeper and you also have the conspiracy document. That is true. I do have that one. I haven't updated it in a while. That's okay. That's okay. I mean, there was a lot of content to catch up on and like one of the reasons we are doing like relistening things and there's podcast too is that it's gotten

I think very, very hard to like start the whole thing and then just be like, wow, there's so many episodes, so many seasons and it's just kind of like, you know, let's welcome a bunch of new people, enjoy, have fun with us, fear rise with us, we have a conspiracy document. Please. Join our cult. Become an apostles. Yes, yes, keep going, keep going. I'm listening.

I was speaking about courts. This is the perfect episode for it. I know, that was my idea. I was like, join a call. You can become an apostle of, not of Andy Son, but of Coco. I would join that cult. Just saying. Same.

Yeah. Great. Both over 20 are thinking about joining a cult. That's like the state of the economy today. Well, then let's keep talking about the episode. And because we talked about the interviewer, sounding different, like your favorite fun fact, he is almost scary, like, toward the end. And it's so different.

Like, he's so funny and nice and making fun of sale. And of course, I'm sorry, did you just ask me if a world can talk? Which I will, by the way, forever. Best quote ever. Absolutely love this. Oh, if these walls could talk. But they can't, can they? I'm sorry, did you just ask me if our walls can talk?

I mean, this isn't being recorded or anything, is it? But also, like, I don't know. The whole, I want their email addresses, I want your network. I want access to their emails. I want all the information you've got on your fans and followers. At Amelia, we are always looking to get our number into the hands of interesting and influential people. So first of all, how does he know what an email address is? Again, this is...

Or maybe that is like he just, like, the reason why he was so sassy the entire episode is because he just came out of a technology workshop. He was just like forced to attend like a technology workshop. And that's the reason why Alvina wouldn't help him like mess with sale. She was so fed up. with trying to teach him how to turn a computer on and off without exploding it. I wonder how many times Elvina just got too frustrated with him. She probably has like, I don't know, a complete bucket of stress balls.

She's just... Yeah, she does, she does. So many of them. She's just like... Poor, Vina. Honestly, I congratulate her. I congratulate her for just doing this job for so many years. For not murdering him.

Oh, lovely. Salvatore. Would you mind opening it? You know what happened last time. The thing with the champagne bottle, because Zale and the Ravenheart wasn't originally the first episode. that Elizabeth Barlow is the first episode. We're going to talk about that once we get through the episode, then it makes more sense.

But like the fact that he's like, you know what happened last time when it's about opening the champagne bottle. And I almost liked it more that there was just zero context. Because now it really sounds like, what did happen last time? Right? What did you do? What did you do? What happened? Hmm.

Just like... so mysterious. You just don't know. The other thing that I feel important to mention that I think was only revealed actually in like I know it from the original script

of the, I think it was Klaus. Zail, like they go through all of this, like faking his death, like the cannon shot, all of it. And he started as another cult in Macedonia. Like really, Zail, you couldn't go like five minutes without another cult.

Really? Was it dead hard to just like not do that? Was it that hard to just refrain from starting another cult? Apparently it was... It's so sad that this wasn't like in the actual episode because when I read that, like when I was compiling a transcript for like for that, it was just kind of like, I think I have to cut all of this out. And then I was like, he did what? That's the question. Is this canon? Is this not canon? If it's not in the episode? I don't know. I mean, I kind of took it as canon because I do what I want. And also, I just, I don't know, it felt very fitting. I hope you learned from this first experience. I'm not sure. That's a question. What is the second called about? I don't know. What could be about? That's a good question. I don't remember if they said anything about that in that script. And I don't have it anymore because I edited it, of course.

there is probably somewhere a document flying around that someone has. Pimp! Is that transcript still available? Does that script still exist? I think the people deserve the truth. Truth about the second cold. Amelia Project spin-off series. And it's just like Zale and Nigelayvon Hart in,

five different names, five different cloaks and five different cults. I would listen to that. I'm going to be honest. I mean, kind of the same. It's just like the many failures of sale in Nika Ravenheart. Like every episode, someone new has to save his butt. Because I just don't think that any of that would ever go well. And no, definitely not.

It wouldn't. I remember that when we talked about it, also had a lot of notes on the case file. I had, yes. And I want to hear all of it because, again, you are the lawkeeper of the conspiracy document, which means that you are the king, monarch of conspiracies. What title would you prefer? Oh, monarch would be amazing.

Okay. Monarch, pigeon of the conspiracy theories, please. All right. Okay, listen. I think it is... I think it's here this the whole time, by the way. Oh, that's so sweet of you. Listen, I think it is very interesting how early Koslovsky's name is mentioned.

Because it isn't in the episode, but it is in the case file. Also, I love the fact that they bought him a whole castle in Macedonia. It is mentioned in there. He just, Zale just gets a whole castle to live in. Okay, but like is it mentioned if it's like a proper castle or like one of those like I pay one euro for a castle and then have to fix it up. That is a good question. I don't, it's not, it's not written in there if it's a really boozy castle or not. But it's still a castle, you know?

Yeah. I would take a castle. Get pitching a castle. Please. But also I don't want to put any money into it, please. I want one for free forever. Yeah. Fair, fair.

All right. Next point in the case files, there are mentions of an email and a website. And I want to know, is this, are these legit? Can you still write an email to that or to that email? The thing is, I think, like, I might be wrong. Like, it might be that I just fell for something at someone on, like, Tumblr or something did. But I am pretty sure there was a Zale Indigo Ravenheart page online. So there was one.

I think so. I think, like, maybe I dreamed it, but I had fake memories of seeing one. I don't know. I would have to Google. it, but I was, like email, I don't know. We should try that. But I think there was a website. I really think there was a website. Because when I looked up the website. Yeah. I looked that website up, but it just says that doesn't exist. So maybe it. I mean, that's also very valid. Maybe it was just up for a short amount of time. Or maybe it stopped existing because

the apostles of Antithon. But like, that is actually a good point. Like, do the apostles, like, do they think he actually launched himself to Antison? I guess so. Or do they think he just died tragically? Maybe it's like, maybe the group split up like that because of this discussion. Because maybe one part said, no, he did it, he made it. And the other said, no, he died.

and then the cold just poof they never like discuss a replacement court so no they don't no no like what happened there can we just have a spin-off please about all these

who are currently like working on season 6 and we're just like can we get a spin-up about the first time is someplace please about all these unanswered questions you know I know

Maybe I need to like get them in here and we're just going to ask them like all of these questions and make them sweat. That would be so fun. I would. I'm like rubbing my hands. I'll see what I can do. I say this as if I have like a lot of power.

You have full power. I would like to think so but I don't think so. All right, yes, yes. Other points. Something that I'm not very sure about because I'm not an expert in that. But when I looked up this whole theory that they are talking about in the episode with Antithon, in the case file, they talk about how this is something Pythagoras wrote about. but when I looked it up on the Googly as one famous interviewer would say

it said it wasn't from him but from a guy from like a philosopher called Philolaos Oh okay So I'm not sure if that is a mistake or two people at the same time thought about the same thing but I don't think so I would

Or we actually are an anti-fan and they are the opposite Oh no it's a different thing terrifying I mean honestly I think it was probably just a mistake like you know how the auto-correct sometimes corrects things that don't really need correcting but like I don't know I wouldn't be surprised but now I'm curious

like is there more theory than we know of I'm really not sure but honestly the auto-correct thing that could that could have been it because Otter correct probably knows Pythagoras better But that's such a boring reason

You're so right Why am I thinking The boring answer is the correct one Another point that I'm not sure If we can talk about But the interviewer does mention That Saurin Kirkegaard

Was an old friend of his So this is a first mention of him being older. And I mean, there is so much of this actually all throughout the first two seasons. There is a moment where he says, like, I've had my time in the limelight and there are other quotes that really, like, I remember back when I got into the fandom, which was in 2020, there were already so. so many theories, like just flying around wildly about how old is he? The early days. Yes, the early days when we had no idea. And I don't know, but like remember how much fun we had, like, theorizing about that exact

aspect. I feel like I could make an entire episode about just the, I don't know, the age theories of the interviewer or about the interviewer. that we had, that others had. There was such a huge conversation about this. And I loved that it's like in the case files, just like almost like hammering the point home that there is something going on.

And this is why I love the case files because they just add some context to a few things that are not mentioned in the episode itself. And this is why this podcast is about extra nerdiness. I'm just nodding along. You're like sale when the interviewer is talking physics. Just like, yeah. And then something I also really enjoy about the case files is just the fact that we find out more about how the disappearance happened and the problems they, that just occur during it.

Just like in this episode when, and I'm not making this up. the people who have read the case files know that this is something that really happened. The interviewer pissed on Zale. How are we feeling about that? I don't know how to answer that. So many things... I love that you're just like not giving context. Oh, no, zero.

People have to treat them by themselves. I mean, that's true, that's true. But like, I don't know. It just feels like, yeah. He would do that. I feel like In this circumstance that we were in I can understand it

but the fact that this happened And Was he on fire? No He was hiding in a bush So it was an accident It was basically an accident But it still

Basically You made it sound like it was like Entirely on purpose I'm so sorry just like, I was just like, okay. I mean, um, listen. Oh, oops. I just hit my microphone. That was not planned. Sorry. Um, listen, I, um, I will say this at another episode. I will support the interviewers rights and wrongs and everything in between. Um, yes. Agreed. But yeah, this is just one of the fun things that happened in the case files. So go read them. Go support on Patreon so you can listen to them.

It's been so long since I read them. And I purposely didn't read them again for this episode because I know you did. So I can explain to you everything that happened. Oh, I love that. Yeah. So that's just a lot of fun. Also, we find out in the episode that he's wearing a three-piece suit, which is also something nice that happens from time to time.

Just some context. Yeah, we find out, yeah, the three-piece suit and we find out about the bow tie at some point later. Yeah, we do. I just realized that we never actually know what he calls himself a pie tromist middle name in the present. I think it's just, yeah, it's just Arthur. Yeah, but that's it. Yeah.

But Siri says his middle name is Arthur. Yes. So does he have a first and a last name? Is it something really, really goofy? Oh, I wonder. Because I actually, like I thought about that because I was, I was basically like, wait. We, you know, everything else I could say here is redacted. But we do hear the whole middle name thing.

And I also know, because we were talking about the early days of the fandom, like, we were theorizing so much. We all had different names for him and for some reason everybody was like, his first name's Cornelius. Really? Yeah. I didn't know. Oh my God.

Yeah. So many people were like his first name. is Cornelius. I don't know why. I also think it's like it would fit him. But for some reason, I was like, I don't want to say it was like consents or something. But like a lot of people, like a lot of people, you know, like we were like five people in that fandom at this point. But I think like two of those five people were the ones who had the names and they called him Cornelius. Oh, this is so fun. It's pretty cute though. It is. Maybe that's, yeah, just a good name.

Yeah. Maybe that's the... A lot of name shenanigans going on. Maybe that's his name in Antithon. If we had to rate the fake death, which, you know, the interviewer called Zale wanting to shoot himself from a cannon, a bright idea. And I do agree.

Like, bright in literally bright because of the flash. I thought I was very funny and then I realized it wasn't that funny. If we have to give like a fake death rating. from 1 to like from 0 to 10 Coco cups because I was debating like do we do 0 to 10 Maltese or Coco cups and I think you as my first guest here

have some power of helping me decide then I think I would say I'd say we should go with Coco I think that is... Yeah, I was hoping. So, zero to ten cocoa cubs. What do you think? How would you rate his fake-dap situation?

If I would have just listened to this one episode and without the knowledge of what's about to come still, I would say it's a solid 8 out of 10. But this is still a very basic. one. Yeah. If you look at all the other disappearances.

So I would think I would go with a middle with a middle five. This is like the base. It shouldn't get worse than this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean. What would you give?

The thing is that I think they definitely get extra points for effort. And I would also give the interview an extra point for the maths and physics because good job. And I would also definitely add another point for him being brave enough to use the computer. There is no replacement corpse.

Why is there no replacement corpse? I mean, I know why it makes sense, but also I feel like a disappearance should at least have, you know, a replacement corpse. It's a bit disappointing. It's a first episode of a deaf faking podcast and there's no dead body like excuse me I signed up for death so so with that I kind of want to just like give them zero points because there was like actually no actual fake death because we don't know what happened you know what I will change no no you have to be the good guy and I will stay with

my friend. I will still give them a four out of ten but all the points they get is the bonus points the interviewer gets for using the Googily, the computer. He was so brave for that. The physics and

my last bonus point I give for the I'm sorry, did you just ask me if her words can talk? Because favorite quote This quote is ingrained into my long-term memory. I will like, I will, like, I will, like, I will, I will, I will, like, do, um, an autopsy.

And they will see it just like written across my heart. You see? It is that serious. It is that serious. It is that serious. Okay. Like, when I first listened to that, I mean, the context is basically that, um, you know, That was, you know, the second episode of the podcast for a long time.

And I was listening to that in my room during the pandemic, stuck at home, if only my housemate there. I was going, like, through it during that time. I was really going through it. I mean, I think everybody was going through it in 2020, so I'm not special. I think so. Yeah. Like, I had a lot of stuff going on, like, a lot of fear about uni.

How would it continue? Because, you know, my state was weird. Meanwhile, I had some family issues. Like, I was a complete mess. And this quote had me basically screaming in laughter at my desk, in my housemaid, comes from her room to my room, just like checking, looking at me like, are you okay? Have you fully lost your mind now?

Do I need to call for help? What is going on? I was just gasping with laughter. And I did not know how much I needed time. And so it will forever be my favorite quote Because it's like It is so, for me at least, it is such a classic Amelia Project quote

Like, if these worlds could talk And some are going, but they can't, can't, right? And like, oh, I see. Oh, there are so many good quotes in the first few seasons already. Thank you for listening to our very first episode. We hope you enjoy it and hey, don't forget to also dry those dishes you just watched while listening, yeah? Today's guest was Pigeon, my wonderful friend and a truly magnificent artist whose work you should really check out on the social media sites listed in the episode description. While the audio will be free on the normal feed, consider joining us on Patreon for a video version and the re-listening parties.

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