The Ariel Helwani Show - Alex Pereira talks move to heavyweight, Jamahal Hill’s being a hater, Jake Paul’s challenge, much more

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Alex Pereira stops by The Ariel Helwani Show for a special Thursday bonus episode (04:21)!The UFC star and savior of 2024 joins Ariel Helwani to talk the status of a heavyweight move, Jamahal Hill's trash talk, Jake Paul's challenge, a targeted date for his UFC return, Steven Seagal's advice, Israel Adesanya's recent comments, Magomed Ankalaev, his near pull-out from UFC 307, plus much more.Then, Ariel gives an update on the bantamweight division (43:19), and finishes things up by answering questions from the SuperChatters (45:56).

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Area Hawaii Show! Back in your life! On this Thursday, October 17, 2000. And 24, hello again everyone! I sure hope you're doing well. Yeah, we didn't plan on doing this Remember yesterday I said goodbye I said, boys in the back, they just finished their show They'd be here on Thursday

I'd be chilling in the back But you know, it's our launch week It's the debut of Uncrowned It's a massive week We've had a who's who. We've had champions. We've had legends. We've had pound for pound greats.

We've had the absolute best of the best from not only the world of MMA, but boxing as well. And, you know, sometimes I read the comments. Sometimes I go deep into the archives when I want to amuse myself. I saw someone who wrote in the Instagram comments and they said, I can't believe you would have your first week and not have Poitin on. I can't believe you would have your first week and not have the 2024 Mayor Fighter of the Year on. Of course, we've already crowned him as such. I can't believe you would have your first week and not have the UFC's MVP on. I can't believe

you would have your first week and not have the man who wowed the Salt Lake City crowd, better known, of course, as Salt Lake City. I can't believe you wouldn't have that guy on. The guy who delivered one of the great stoppages and fights of 2024 earlier this month. What a win, what a fight against Khalil Rountree. And so we said, you know what? You're right. Let's do a special Thursday edition because here we're independent.

We can do what we want. We say, hey, you want to turn on the lights on a Thursday afternoon at four o'clock Eastern? We'll turn on the damn lights at four o'clock Eastern and do a special edition. Why? Because we miss doing the show. Why? Because the haters are out. Why? Because they're just foaming at them out. They're just waiting for us to say something. And so we are here to deliver for not only the haters, of course, but for our fans as well. The Boys in the Back did a great show. That is up right now on the YouTube channel. We ended the show with some breaking news pertaining to the bantamweight division. I have an update on

said news. We'll get to that back end of this special one-hour edition of the A8 show. I am also going to read all the super chat questions that I didn't get to yesterday because I missed them. I messed up. So you're all going to get your questions read and answered on the backend of today's program. But in a matter of seconds, my friends, we are going to be joined by this man, the man who joined us May 31st at NJPAC in Newark, New Jersey.

Shamba! Yeah, that guy. We did the boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom and i did this remember that frank i almost blew your ears out because we went like this no yeah and then we went ah we did that remember that uh what a time it was what a time it was. What a time. Sold out crowd, by the way. 430 some odd individuals were just lapping it up. It was a grand old time. And so yes, in a matter of moments, we'll be joined by Alex Pereira. And you know, I did tell you just a couple of weeks ago in one of our Part in the Dust episodes, I told you guys that, yeah, we're doing, you know, we're going

to do an award show beginning of the year. We've been doing it for what, like 13 straight years, something crazy like that. We're going to do it. Don't worry. And usually we end, we end the award show with male fighter of the year. It's kind of like the, you know, the culmination of it all. Usually we do that. And this time I'm telling you right now, there is absolutely no surprises. There's no mystery. There's nothing to save for January because we already know it's fait accompli. I don't care what happens in Abu Dhabi.

With all due respect to Max Holloway, with all due respect to Ilya Tepuria, the male fighter of the year for 2024 is Poitin, is Alex Pura, the MVP, the MVF of 2024 for not just the UFC, but the entire sport is Alex Pereira. And he is kind enough to join us right now, live here on the program. There he is, our good friend, Alex Pereira, here courtesy of our good friends over at stake. And there's El Jefe himself, Plinio Cruz, joining us. Shama. Yes, joining us as well. Plinio, where are you right now? Are you in your Lamborghini?

What is that, your Bugatti? No, I'm actually in front of my new gym that I'm supposed to be opening in a week or two. We're just moving, doing some stuff here. Okay, well, congratulations on that. I'm in Jersey, Nutley. I love it. Nutley, New Jersey, I know it very well. Congratulations on that.

And Alex, parabens to you. Congratulations on the win just a couple of weeks ago. Thank you. Obrigado. Thank you for joining us here on the show. Thank you, my brother. I'm happy. Very happy. It's good to see you. Nice shirt. Yes, nice shirt for Alex. Camisa bonita, viu, Potter? Nice shirt. Você tem que se vestir bem, depois da luta, muitas coisas acontecendo. Ele tinha que se vestir bem, ele tinha uma boa reunião e um almoço depois das 5, muitas coisas boas acontecendo. Ok, então podemos começar com isso, o que estamos falando? Quais boas estão acontecendo com você desde o vencedor na Salt Lake City? esperava, né? Pô, muito ansioso aí por essa vitória e graças a Deus tudo aconteceu da forma que a gente

planejou. Então muitas coisas a gente sabe, né? Que pode estar aparecendo, tá em evidência, muitas empresas, né? Pra patrocinar, então tá procurando e tô muito feliz com tudo isso. Well, after a fight like that, as we expected,

right? Having all this attention, many business looking for sponsorship for business, for all the inquires and a lot of good things happening his way because of that. You revealed, Alex, after the win that you were battling all kinds of issues, some health, some non-health related. You talked about feeling sick, your throat, antibiotics, your ribs, your toe. How are you feeling now about, you know, two weeks later? How is the body feeling after the fight in Utah? Você está se sentindo bem? Sua costela, seus antibióticos, seus pés, sua perna, como você está se sentindo agora, há duas semanas? Como está o corpo se sentindo depois da luta em Utah? Falando no jeito que você se sente, você revelou que você teve vários problemas para

essa luta, a garganta, a costela, o pé. Como é que você se sente agora, já que passou a saúde, sua saúde? Está legal? Estou bem, a costela é o que incomodava mais, mas eu não estou treinando, estou descansando, então para dormir incomoda um pouco, para quem já machucou a costela saiba como que é, mas de resto mesmo, o dedo, eu não estou forçando ali, não estou tracionando, então não tem muito incômodo eu parado. Treinando, com certeza, eu vou sentir na hora.

Bem, agora ele está bem porque não está treinando, ele está só se sentindo, só se curando. As costas ainda estão se preocupando um pouco porque foi quase um craque. Então, as costas não estão se sentindo agora porque não tem trancamento, não tem movimento. Então, até agora ele está só se sentindo e se curando, então ele está bem. Obviamente você falou sobre a visa e ter que ir ao consulado e você estava esperando para ver se você poderia vir para o estado. For now, he's just resting up and healing, so he's fine. Obviously, you talked about the visa and having to go to the consulate, and you were waiting to see if you could come to the States. You injured your ribs. Your toe was still hurting.

You weren't feeling well. Did it ever get too much to the point? And I know it's kind of a crazy question to ask you, Alex, because you always show up no matter what. Did it ever get to the point where you thought maybe you não lutasse contra Khalil Rountree no Utah? isso aqui já é demais, vamos ter que dar uma adiada nessa luta. Desde o início eu achei que não ia dar pra eu lutar, eu lutei de teimoso mesmo, eu geralmente treino intenso, são de seis semanas, mas pra essa luta eu ia fazer intensidade de cinco semanas, porque eu tava no Brasil, então eu tava no problema do visto ali, no processo

de visto, e faltava exatamente um mês, eu não tinha recebido o meu visto ainda, né, e então eu fiz até uns vídeos, como eu me sentia, como eu mostrei, se olhar pra mim, pras imagens, você vai ver que eu não tô bem,

entendeu? Eu tenho esses vídeos guardados, eu vou soltar eles ainda, pra vocês verem a situação que eu tava, tava ruim. E, pô, quando eu consegui viajar pros Estados Unidos, foi com 30 dias aí, antecedente da luta, e aí, mesmo, comecei com o Globo, falei com o Plinio,

falei, cara, eu não sei, eu acho que eu não consigo lutar, mas eu não quero dar resposta agora pro UFC, mas eu quero que ele esteja ciente que eu resolvi ficar esperto e talvez eu não lute, né, então a gente fez todo o processo aí que a gente já tinha planejado de três semanas antes

pra Salt Lake City, né, então eu treinei uma semana em Canérico e fui pra lá e, porra, antes no Brasil eu já tinha tomado já antibiótico por cinco dias, depois de eu estar uma semana em Salt Lake City, tomei mais cinco dias de antibiótico e até ali eu falei, cara, só vou falar no último dia, já que a organização já sabe, então não vou me queimar, não vou ter problema, eu posso falar tipo um dia antes da luta, eu tava com

isso em mente, mas eu não queria sair da luta. Bem, no Brasil isso acontece, normalmente uma luta perfeita para nós é em torno de well in brazil it happened that usually a perfect camp for us is about six weeks right because he maintained himself in shape but because of the visa issues and everything they took too long to release his visa you know his passport so he came to america he was already messed up in brazil he got throat infection over there and got the ribs hurt so he already came to america here back from brazil on an ideal scenario because he got here five weeks before the fight four and a half weeks then he got here he started training we have footage that we're gonna release he's gonna release all him training doesn't look

well you guys gonna see it was really bad and then he came to me and glover and he said guys look i don't know if i can do this fight like this and we told him say bro whatever you whatever you want you know but at the same time that he didn't want to decide right there he wanted to push through a little bit in brazil they gave him a week round of antibiotics and you know that mess up your cardio and everything so he got here we decided to move on with the team to Salt Lake City We got there tough was too bad and

The week prior to fight week he had to do another round of antibiotics for a week five days And they still mess him up to the point that like we called the UFC and say I don't think we're gonna be able to fight But he decided to just push through and you know what i mean because he's stubborn enough to do that and thank god everything was fine incredible that's why he's the mvp of the ufc and you know everyone when we heard this alex we were thinking how did you do it how did you do it again how do you keep doing it on short notice how do you keep beating these guys knocking them out stopping them how are you taking their best shots and just moving forward and then and then Alex, a video emerges online just a couple of days ago of you in the presence of the great Sensei

Steven Seagal, him teaching you his biggest technique, his greatest technique, his great mysteries. And that's when I realized, that's why, this is the answer, right? This is the answer why you're doing so well. Is it because of the stuff that Sensei Seagal has taught you? Have you used eu percebi que foi por isso. Essa é a resposta, certo? Essa é a resposta por que você está fazendo tão bem. É por causa da coisa que Sensei Segal te ensinou? Você usou essas técnicas no luta e é por isso que você é tão sucesso? que tem essa coragem, e de todo o seu treino e tal, ele falou assim, tá brincando, né falou assim, pô, aí que eu percebi, eu vi você com o Steven Seagal, eu falei, pô aí ele falou assim, falou que falou

pô, agora eu entendi porque o Alex ganhou porque foi todas as técnicas que o Seagal te ensinou, toda aquela mágica das técnicas dele que fez você ganhar é, não, não claro que não é tudo, a gente muitas pessoas falam do Steven Seagal, né, não dá muita credibilidade pra ele, porque ele é mais um ator e tal, mas é um cara que entende muito, sabe, você vê ali aquele esplendor que eu coloquei, a gente treinou bem, eu já faço isso já, entendeu, mas cada um tem uma técnica diferente, e a gente vai lapidando ali, pegando algo de bom que outra pessoa tem e eu vou fazendo isso. Muitas pessoas falam

aí, o cara não sabe de nada e tal, o cara tem que ser respeitado e respeito muito. Então, a gente tirou um dia lá de treino, ele teve toda a dedicação ali pra estar ensinando tudo que ele sabe e a gente

vai absorvendo o que a gente acha que é bom pra gente. have a different way to do some techniques and you got to take a little bit from everybody to make your own so he was helpful we trained with him for that day and he's a very nice guy he's a seasoned guy many guys say like i say many guys say that he's not this is not that but he's a real guy and i have a lot of respect for him love it love it i also love a video that i saw afterwards of uh israel desanya your old friend watching you and and reacting with such admiration for you and and love for you it seems like you two are in a very good place that there's no uh bad feelings bad vibes only respect and he speaks very glowingly of you did you see this video of him watching your fight and see how happy he was for you and if so what is your reaction to that well another cool thing he

saw was israel's reaction to desanya right seeing your fight cheering for you wanting you to win Pô, outra coisa legal que ele viu foi a reação do Israel Adesanya, né, vendo a sua luta, torcendo pra você, querendo que você ganhasse, assim, sabe, de um jeito bem bacana,utar, mas quando acaba a luta, acho que tem que acabar tudo, entendeu? As pessoas às vezes estão no mesmo ambiente, eu acho que não tem que ficar com o clima pesado, então eu venho fazendo as coisas da forma certa e também com certeza eu faria o mesmo que ele fez, o que ele falou

ali, de eu vou ser o único a ganhar esse carro e tal, isso é crédito pra ele também, eu acho que ele tem que torcer pra mim, eu vou ser o único a ganhar esse cara e tal isso é crédito pra ele também eu acho que ele tem que torcer pra mim eu faria o mesmo é pô eu iria pensar da mesma forma pô só eu vou ganhar esse cara velho ninguém mais vai ganhar então eu vou me sentir melhor com isso como competidor mas eu acho que foi uma coisa muito legal que ele fez eu tenho muito respeito e o fato de que o rival ficou no ringue você sabe o que eu quero dizer nós estamos batendo isso e eu gosto da maneira fact that the rivalry stayed in the ring you know what i mean we're waving that off and i like the way that he said that you know what i mean like cheering for me and like saying that i you know

what i mean the only guy that ever beat me on his place i would have done the same i want to be the only guy that beat somebody you know so i think i think was very nice and i like that a lot on the flip side of that we have of course jam Hill, who was seen yawning cage side. And I know you said what you said at the post-fight press conference, and it was a great response. Well done in the moment. Since then, he has done interviews. He just spoke to Sports Kita, and he said that he was not impressed, that he thought that you should have beaten Khalil a lot easier and that this isn't something that he thinks was overly impressive, your performance. Can I ask you to further expand on your thoughts on how he has been behaving, the behavior cage side with the yawning and then his comments about your performance

afterwards? bocejando, com sono, desfazendo a sua luta, fez uma entrevista, ele falou que não estava impressionado e que você deveria ter batido no Calil, o gado do Calil muito mais rápido do que aquilo, né? Tipo, te desmerecendo, né? O que você diz sobre os comentários dele, dessa atitude dele? Bom, o que eu só tenho para falar é que se aquela luta

com o Calil, tipo, foi uma merda, a minha luta com ele, qual a colocação que ele dá para isso? Se o Khalil foi uma merda a minha luta com ele, qual a colocação que ele dá pra isso? se o Khalil foi uma merda, a dele qual que seria? e do Jamal só vou responder isso vou parar por aqui, respeito

a entrevista mas eu acho que eu tô em outro patamar agora nem deveria mencionar aqui o Jamal, entendeu? mas eu entendo, tem que fazer as perguntas Eu vou ser honesto com você, Ariel. Se a performance do Khalil foi uma merda, onde o Jamal vai rankar a performance do Alex contra ele? Então, você sabe o que eu quero dizer? Se aquela luta foi uma merda, então imagine a luta, você sabe o que eu quero dizer? Como ele pode dizer isso? Mas eu vou ser honesto, eu não vou falar mais sobre o Jamal. So, you know what I mean? If that fight was crap, so imagine the fight, you know what I mean? How can he say that? But I'm going to be honest, I'm not going to further talk about Jamal.

I have a lot of respect for your show. But Alex is not, Alex, he's at a different level. Fair enough. Can I ask you about a post that you put on your Instagram right after the fight, the next day? And the caption was, this is one of my favorite moments before a fight. In Portuguese, I believe caption was, this is one of my favorite moments before a fight. In Portuguese, I believe it was, Very good Portuguese. I like that. It was a picture.

It was a picture of Tom Aspinall looking at para você, acho que dois lutas atrás. Mas por que você postou isso? Por que esse é um dos seus momentos favoritos? Respeito ao final O cara tá vindo aí Fazendo o trabalho dele, eu tô fazendo o meu trabalho Mas eu postei ali Que ele tinha postado a foto Aí eu postei, todo mundo sabe Todo mundo sabe Que é pra dar uma espetada ali

Pra dar uma Não é um barulho na rede social Mas eu tô muito feliz Com tudo que a gente conversou Com a organização. Eu não posso falar nada aqui agora, mas em breve a gente vai estar falando sobre isso. Well,

I wanna be honest with you, I like Otonoski now, I respect him. I just did that just to shake the internet a little bit. I cannot say that was for nothing, because everybody saw it, you can tell that was jumping around, right? A little bit of trolling and, but, long story short, I had a great conversation with the organization. I'm very happy with my future in the organization.

And soon we'll be able to get you guys updated about it. Okay. I said after the fight, Alex, out of love and respect for you, because you fought in April, in June, in October, you talked about your body not feeling great. You know, it's been a long career in kickboxing. because you fought in April, in June, in October, you talked about your body not feeling great. You know, it's been a long career in kickboxing. Now MMA, you're 37.

I said, if someone out there loves you, they would say, let's take the rest of the year off, obviously, and the first half of 2025, we come back maybe June, July. We come back rested. We don't need to put our body through all this, you know, this torture. And everyone got mad at me.

Everyone said, no, how dare you? We need more of Alex. We need more, more, more. And of course, I want to see you fight every weekend, but just thinking about your well-being. What do you think of this thought for me? Is this crazy? Are you going to come back before June, July and keep this active schedule up?

Well, you did these three fights this year, right, man? e manter esse horário ativo? eu falei pra galera que eu gostaria de, eu acho que o Poitin devia descansar, merece um descanso, e voltar talvez lá pra junho, julho do ano que vem, dar um break, né, e falou que todo mundo, não, que isso, a gente quer ver o Poitin lutar logo e tal, o que você acha desse pensamento dele pra você dar uma descansada e voltar pro meio do ano, ou você quer voltar antes? Não, isso seria o certo,

mas eu não, eu acho que eu gostaria de lutar lá pra março, eu não sei, eu não sei, eu não sei, eu, bom, por mim eu lutava até em dezembro, por mim eu lutava até em dezembro, é porque a gente teve essas duas últimas lutas, né, que a gente tinha uns compromissos, mas aí a gente, pô, deixou um pouco ali, conversamos, né, com o pessoal que estava organizando as nossas viagens,

mas eles entenderam, né, então a gente fez essas lutas agora, as últimas duas lutas, e agora a gente tem um compromisso de viagens agora, mas, pô, se não fossem essas viagens aí, cara, eu lutaria em dezembro já, entendeu? Pô, eu quero lutar, entendeu? Mas pensando bem assim, pô, descansar um pouquinho,

lutar lá pra março, acho que é um bom tempo. Idealmente, ele vai lutar lá pra Março, a lot of business to do. And we had to push them after these two fights because they were scheduled for before. The guys were organized, they understood. But we had some obligations to do. So he feel that around March is a good date. If it was up to you, Alex, who would be your next opponent? If it was totally your call?

Alex, if it was up to you, who would be your next opponent? seu próximo oponente, se fosse totalmente sua chamada. eu não tenho ideia todo mundo fala aí do Kalaev mas eu também não sei não falou muita bosta aí no Instagram, na rede social falando que eu tô correndo que isso e aquilo, ele e o empresário dele ali todo mundo sabendo que ninguém tem interesse de ver me lutar, entendeu?

e aí ele joga tudo isso pra cima de mim, a tudo isso pra cima de mim, a responsabilidade pra cima de mim. Eu achei uma sacanagem o que eles fizeram, eles sabendo que ninguém quer ver eles lutar. E aí, cara, eu não sei não. Se eu puder, não é com medo não, não tenho medo de ninguém não, mas se eu puder agora atrapalhar o caminho dele,

eu vou fazer isso. Eu vou ser honesto, cara, eu não tenho ninguém na minha mente. A organização veio com with Khalil last time and was a surprise for me too I don't really choose opponents some people say Uncle I have but gonna be honest with you him and his manager been talking a lot of crap saying that Alex oh Alex I don't want to fight this and that but the reality is the organization don't want him to fight because he's boring people don't like to watch him fight right, but the reality is the organization don't want him to fight because he's boring. People don't like to watch him fight, right?

He's not a guy that sells pay-per-view. So honestly, like, that's disrespectful. Even they try to put the ball on me, like I'm saying, like if I'm Alex, right, putting the ball on me because it's not up to me, it's up to the organization. The organization don't want to make the fight. But now because they keep saying that, keep disrespecting, maybe I'll make it a little bit even harder for them to fight me. It's up to the organization. The organization don't want to make the fight. But now because they keep saying that, keep disrespecting, maybe I'll make it a little bit even harder

for them to fight me. Fair enough. Could I ask you this? What is more likely, a move to heavyweight or a move back to middleweight? I ask this because of the Aspinall post, but also I remember after DDP won,

after he beat Izzy, you took a picture standing in front of the TV insinuating perhaps that you would go back down to 185. So what is more likely to happen next? Not necessarily the next fight, but first, if you will, a move up to heavyweight finally, or a move back down to middleweight to fight the champion there? se você pudesse escolher o que está mais perto, você subir pro pesado ou descer pro médio? Você fez aquele post da Freire na TV com o Drix Duplices,

depois falou do peso pesado, o que está mais perto pra gente aí? Com certeza, peso pesado, né? Até pra descer, lógico, todo mundo sabe que não é uma coisa fácil, né? Eu vi, né, com esse corte de peso que eu fiz, pô, eu vi que eu consigo descer, não com facilidade,

mas eu acho que bem melhor do que das últimas vezes, né? Pro, pô, eu vi que eu consigo descer, não com facilidade, mas eu acho que bem melhor do que das últimas vezes, né, com o peso pesado eu acho que eu tô bem, né, eu não sou um cara tão pesado, mas eu acho que a minha vantagem de lutar com o peso que eu estou agora, no peso pesado, a vantagem é maior do que se eu

ter esse corte de peso pro médio, né, eu acho que eu tô mais forte, mas é peso pesado, os caras são muito fortes, mas eu acho que eu estou mais forte do que se eu descer. Mas como eu falei também, o Shaiji está aí, está na vez dele, deixa ele ser feliz e vamos ver o que acontece. Muito tranquilo, né? Sim. Ok, honestamente, eu acho closer to heavyweight than middleweight i made my last weight cut was not hard and but honestly like i think i'm closer to a heavyweight than than a

middleweight because for me to go up the way that i feel strong i'm still in the same way as always but i think i'll have a better performance i feel good then having to make the weight cut for middleweight and plus it's sean strickland's time. Let him have his chance. We saw you at Contender Series. You were there right after your fight to see your old foe Artem Vakitov, and Dana White said that you were instrumental

in getting him signed to the UFC. You fought twice in kickboxing, great fights, and he's kind of, in some respects, you're the Izzy to his Alex, se você entende o que eu estou dizendo. Em qualquer caso, eu estou perguntando, por que você quer estar lá para assistir a esse combate da Contender Series? E como você gostaria de lutar, né, seu ex-rival e tem gente que até fala que você pra ele

é como se fosse o adesão pra você no começo, né o Dona White falou que você foi instrumental na participação, poder ter contratado ele, e por que que você quis dar essa ajuda e participar e tá lá presente? É, na verdade eu tava vendo um trabalho, né que a gente ia pro

pro evento que a Monza tava participando então a gente tava lá, a gente ia para o evento que a Monster estava participando, então a gente estava do lado e eu gosto de estar no evento, gosto de assistir. Então, eu e o empresário, o Ed, falamos, vamos encostar lá. A gente veio para lá e chegou a três lutas, a gente assistiu as lutas, a última era do back-top, foi isso. Eu já fui lá porque eu tinha que ir para Las Vegas para um evento para a Monster Energy. Eu e o meu gerente, Ed Soares, e Ed disse, vamos para a Série Contender. Ele chegou lá, foi a metade do card, a gente só assistiu as lutas, é isso.

Você gostaria de lutar com ele na UFC? Eu falei assim, se realmente ele quer provar algo, ele já aceitou de cara. Tipo, eu dei essa entrevista, né? Mas com o Vakdov é totalmente diferente, entendeu? Não tem uma história assim que nem o Alessandro. Eu nunca fiquei provocando o Vakdov, ele nunca tinha ficado me provocando. Então, o negócio estava morto. Ele chegou, como vai colocar direto? Agora, se tivesse já essa rivalidade e tal, qualquer hora eu podia colocar, entendeu? Eu não sei se eu consegui lutar, porque honestamente, você ainda tem uma luta para

fazer, mas eu não sei se eu consegui. Eu não sei se eu consegui lutar, porque eu ainda tenho uma luta para fazer. Eu não sei se eu consegui lutar, porque eu ainda tenho uma luta para fazer. Eu não sei se eu consegui lutar, porque eu ainda tenho uma luta para fazer. Eu não sei se eu consegui lutar, porque eu ainda tenho uma luta para fazer. ninguém sabe o que está acontecendo foi muito tempo fazendo isso we never got to really trash talk each other or anything like that when i signed with the ufc and i and i had a history with a designer right everybody knew when was something that was already there and i told them i said if if if a designer really want to do this we can do it but it's different with with akitov because there's no a really big rivalry over there not

things that people really know and the ufc in the form of a league that they are, you don't just bypass and jump over there. So I don't think it's going to happen. Okay. Have you started to think you want to fight till 40 or you want to fight three more fights? Are you starting to think that way? And do you have a number in mind? I started to think, are you going to fight until 40?

Do you have one or two more fights? What do you have in mind? I don't know. You can't tell. Já começou a pensar que você vai lutar até os 40? Você tem mais uma ou duas lutas? O que você tem em mente? Ah, eu não sei não, cara. Não dá pra saber não. Na verdade, eu quero lutar. Eu quero lutar. Mas eu não sei não. Igual o do peso médio. Eu falei, quando meu corpo me avisar, eu vou subir. E quando meu corpo avisar, eu vou parar. Mas ainda tô bem. Eu vou ser honesto, eu não sei muito, pra ser honesto.

E, tipo quando eu era um middleweight, meu corpo me diz que eu vou subir. I'm going to be honest I don't really know To be honest And just like When I was a middleweight I said when my body Tells me I'll go up Same for this When I'm going to Listen to my body My body so far

Didn't tell me When my body tells me I'll stop Okay just a couple more Anthony Joshua Recently said He would like to see you Box

And then you asked him Okay You know I don't have A lot of time Who would you like To see me box Well I'm sure you know this Jake Paul continues have a lot of time. Who would you like to see me box? Well, I'm sure you know this.

Jake Paul continues to say that he would like to box you. He would like to fight you in a boxing match. When you hear this, what is your reaction? And are you at all interested in pursuing this? Oh, Anthony Joshua falou que gostaria de você boxear. E você escreveu, né, com quem gostaria de me ver boxear. Oh, Jake Paul continua falando, né, que quer lutar com você e tal, o que você acha disso aí, se é algo que te interessa?

Ah, né, até me interessa, sim, mas todo mundo sabe que eu tenho contato com o UFC, então, como que faz isso, né, eu acho que ele também tá vendo, né, o meu nome e como que as pessoas estão falando de mim.

E eu acho que ele sabe que é uma coisa muito difícil e está falando. Talvez se o UFC fosse um evento que deixasse o apelido livre, e pudesse lutar em qualquer modalidade, eu não sei se ele estaria falando assim dessa forma, não sei. Bem, vou ser honesto, é claro que tem alguns interesses em mim, mas ele sabe que eu estou em um contrato com o UFC, would talk like that I don't know Sua irmã, que acabou de lutar, fez uma luta maravilhosa. Quão longe você acha que ela está do UFC e se você gostaria de ver ela lutar no UFC logo? Eu acho que ela não está muito longe, está fazendo um trabalho excelente. Ela está fazendo um trabalho excelente. tá do UFC e se você gostaria de ver ela lutar no UFC logo eu acho que ela não tá muito longe tá fazendo um trabalho

excelente essa última luta dela mostrou muita coisa sobre ela eu acho que lógico ela não tem um recorde assim bom pro UFC mas tem essa luta aí, as pessoas conseguem ver um pouco

o trabalho dela e eu acho que é uma questão de oportunidade todo mundo sabe for the UFC. But there's this fight and people can see a little bit of her work. I think it's a matter of opportunity. Everyone knows. We still see you. I'm coming. Did we lose him? We did,

but we'll get him right back. Is Plinio there? I'm here, champ. Okay. I think he's just going to... We just have two minutes left. I think he's going to log back in. By the way is plinio there i'm here champ okay i think he's just gonna we just have two minutes left uh i think he's gonna log back in by the way plinio can i ask you uh alex versus jake paul how does that fight go while we're getting him back is that is that a real question like a metaverse fight and i i let's just say if they if they if they fight what do you

think uh brother he's a different level right if you ask me alex against even maybe the heavyweight champion of the world box i think i'll say alex so that already says enough i think he's a big pill for jake paul to swallow fair enough um and we're waiting to get uh to get alex back he's not back yet is he he's not back yet okay and and and by the way can i ask you what was he saying there um about his sister before he cut out uh he was saying basically that he doesn't need her performance he speaks for itself she don't have yet a ufc caliber mma record but it's all about the opportunity the organization want to do i think she's up there on that level and i think it'd be great to see her there how far away do you think she is from your perspective maybe a couple fights i hope so

you know we would like to see a little perera in the ufc next year we're working on that does she train with you guys in uh in america yeah she she moved to america she's been here for i think two years now she'll be trained on the daily basis with everybody here and she's like a female version of puakambra you guys can see the, the technique, the amount of power that she can generate. You know what I mean? So I think it'll be very fun to see her in the UFC. I got a little worried, Plinio. I have to say, before the fight,

I saw you guys doing the thing with the garbage bags, looking at the garbage ladies, and I was like, what's happening here? Are we focused? Are we having too much fun? I saw the comments. They were saying the same thing. Tell us why you guys did that. You know what I'm talking about, you guys in the garbage bags yeah of course bro that's why we win things because you know what i mean some guys

go to go to a fight night like looking like they're going to a funeral we're going to celebrate we're going to have fun you know what i mean we get our ass kicked in a daily basis so alex is a troll bro he came to me and say bro let's make this video. And I said, okay. He's the one who came up with the whole idea. And then there was this trash cans across the street from the gym. And then we just put stuff together. I think the video got like over like 40 million views on his Instagram

or something like that. This stuff is going crazy. He's a troll, bro. He loves to have fun like that. It's incredible. Okay. Can I ask Alex one last question? I think we have him back. Oh, there he is. É incrível. Ok, posso perguntar uma última pergunta, Alex? Sim, está ouvindo, Potter? Pode continuar? Ele perguntou da Aline já, aí eu traduzi o que você respondeu. Aí ele perguntou da lata do lixo até, eu expliquei pra ele.

Ele tem mais uma pergunta pra você. Só terminar a sua da minha irmã. Ok, pode terminar a sua sobre a sua irmã. Por favor. Eu acho que ela está perto, né? Eu acho que a gente vai usar tudo esse também. sobre sua irmã? Isso ajuda, mas é óbvio que olha o trabalho que ela fez, olha o nocaute que ela fez. Então as pessoas às vezes querem ver ela lutando, às vezes até duvidando, falando que quer ver onde vai chegar, o que aconteceu comigo. Então, claro, a gente tem que dar continuidade no trabalho, focar na próxima luta,

e com certeza, tudo dando certo aqui fora, o caminho para ela também vai ser um pouquinho mais curto. follow the protocol. We're going to see what I have on her next fight. But we think she, due to her talent and everything else, is going to be a faster process than has was with Quatar. Last thing for you, Alex. Your story is one of the best of the last few years.

We remember the photo of you at the tire shop. We've heard about the things that you've had to overcome. Now I think you can make a very strong case among active fighters. You are the face of the UFC. Like I said you can make a very strong case among active fighters.

You are the face of the UFC. Like I said, the fighter of the year, the MVP, all that. You are so popular. People are emulating you. I see your social media. It has exploded. How are you dealing with all this?

This incredible explosion of fame. How are you dealing with it? Do you like it? Do you like getting noticed? Do you like all the attention, the love? E às vezes, isso parece quase que é muito assustador. E como é que você está lidando com toda essa tensão e tudo isso acontecendo em termos de fama até em cima de você? É legal? Como é que é? Com certeza é legal. Claro que às vezes a gente não tem totalmente o controle.

Mas no geral eu estou muito feliz com tudo que vem acontecendo. Todo o trabalho que eu fiz desde quando eu assinei com o UFC, eu sabia que ia ser difícil, né? E foi difícil, né? Esses dias agora, atrás, eu tava até pensando tudo, de algumas entrevistas,

né? Até as pessoas falando do Bakhtov, né? Pô, se fizer o caminho que fizeram com o Boatão e tal, mas, pô, minha primeira luta foi com o Mihailic o cara que era campeão de grappling e na época que eu fui lutar todo mundo falou

esse cara que vai pegar é o cara depois que eu ganhei já não deram crédito pro cara porque era um cara fácil então as pessoas foram duvidando. Então assim, com toda essa história aí, a gente começa a relembrar e tudo mais,

e a gente vê onde a gente chegou, cara, é uma grande satisfação, assim, é imenso e, pô, tô muito feliz. Man, obviously, Noremi is very nice. You know, what's not easy since the moment that I signed with the UFC, I know it's going to be a hard road.

For example, my first firefight against Mihalyidis with multiple times championing grappling. Then many people keep doubting me and then,

you know what I mean? Just like, oh, but what's next? And then he kept making it happen. But all this attention, he knew it was not going to be easy

to get what he got, but he's super happy with everything that happens. Parabéns, like I say. Parabéns. Or like you say. Shama, my friend, you know we have our new set here, guys, but you're with us. You see us right here?

You're still with us. Here's a new studio, Pata, but you're still with them. Shama! There it is. And we'd love to have you both, when you can, come visit us in our studio in New York City. It's always a pleasure to have you both when you can come visit us in our studio in new york city it's always a pleasure to talk to both of you congratulations on the win congratulations on everything and thank you very much to stake as you can see behind alex for setting this up we appreciate them very very much obrigado Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I used to always say Eduardo Alonso and Shogun were my favorite duo in MMA, like peanut butter and jelly, but those two are climbing up the ranks.

And you have to include Glover. You know, I haven't thought about coach of the year just yet, but Plinio and Glover, there was once a time New York Rick and I gave the coaches of the year award to Mark Henry and Ricardo Almeida back in the day. I feel like we might be moving in the direction of of another you know co-coach of the year situation so there you have it on a special thursday edition of the program don't go anywhere though i do have an update on the bantamweight division we'll answer some questions and then we'll say goodbye um and there's still plenty more to come this is how we do it here this is how we do it all hands in the a uh and wave them from

here to there yeah sing with me frank if you know g mac and you wanna be play yeah now i have a whole new perspective on what goes on back there you saw how i just kind of oh my god you're you're cracking the whip jordan's yelling f bombs left and right right Andy's freaking yelling I mean it's a It's a pressure cooker back there And then I just come on air And I'm like hey what's up Aaron Yeah and you're so calm

Under pressure This is This is what I literally described In the In the show Ah I said He's so pleasant

While equal Like you can read the stress All over his face But he's also so respectful And pleasant still It's a true skill. I actually like the question asking voice from Frank. I didn't mind it.

I'm sorry. Connor had some harsh words. How many people do you think are tuning in right now for the great Alex Pereira Light Heavyweight Champion of the World that didn't watch Voice of the Back earlier and are like, why the fuck is this guy in a tuxedo? Who the fuck is he? I think a lot of them did, A. And B, Alex Pere guy in a tuxedo? No, I think they're just, I think a lot of them did, A.

And B, Alcberta deserves a tuxedo. Yeah, I was going to say, you show up for an interview with the champ, you wear a tuxedo. I think he deserves that Plinio Coach of the Year shirt. That's what he really deserves. Oh, yeah. Got mine at home. I should have worn it. Yeah, that's right.

Should have had it ready to go. What a legend those two are. If you guys had to predict right now Who's he fighting next and when John Bones Jones baby I think I still stick by the Uncle Ive in May in Brazil John Bones Jones Not Jake Paul? No not Jake Paul

Chad loved that one I feel like people forgot about that one But Great stuff there they are fun They did that skit the dancing before the fights have become a very special part of the alex pura experience and uh this is great most importantly just getting to do these these one-offs whatever we want we can just turn on the lights here and just do it right no big deal doesn't take anything we're working through the

case yeah it doesn't take Something like that Not anything at all Thumbs up to the chat Thumbs up to the chat Thumbs up to the chat Great job by the way By Antoine Evans Who has been leading the charge

On YouTube for us The man himself You can't spell goat Without an A and T That's true That's a good point. Wait, actually, but... Big Frank, everybody. I'll be here all night

on the looks of things. That's a good one. You want to say something, Ray? No. You just said actually? That's not correct, the spelling. Oh, got it, got it, got it. It was a pun, A and T, but I called it A and T.

You know what? Ant appreciates it, I'm sure. He does. He does appreciate a good pun. Ant told me that we missed out on some of our super chat questions. We appreciate everyone in the chat. Thumbs up to the chat. Thumbs up to the chat.

And so I will get to those in a moment. But first, at the very end of the Boys in the Back show, and let me see if there's an update here. No, but there's an update here no but i because there's there's a couple of interesting things um uh okay number one very end of boys in the back i told you about a report from red corner mma reporting that on december 14th in tampa and hope everyone in tampa is getting back on their feet uh some scary scenes over the last couple weeks there um that the main event for that fight

night car remember the last pay-per-view of 2024 is going to be December 7th T-Mobile we found out Bilal, Shavkat, Kai and Pantoja they're reporting that it's going to be Umar Nurmagomedov versus Song Yedong now I did say and it wasn't me being like, oh, I knew first. No, but this is something that I was hearing, but obviously not to the point where I felt like it was at a point to report. My intel is saying that it's not quite done. Is this something that has been discussed? Yes. Is it something that has been bandied about? Yes, but not quite done as we speak right this second. Could it get done? Yes. So don't take this clip if it gets done and put it a week later. Has it been discussed? Yes. Is it out there? Yes. Is it a thing? Yes. Is it possible that Umar fights before he fights Murab? Yes. But it's also possible that

all those things would happen. Fluid, developing, it could, it could not happen. Let's see how it all plays out. So I do want to update that. Last night, we posted our very first pound for pound men's and women's pro wrestling rankings over on uncrowned.com. And what a plethora of great content. If you're not on uncrowned.com, you are missing out. An amazing story today from Chuck Mendenhall and James Vick. You must read it. An amazing story today from Pete C. Carroll on Paul Hughes, who returns to action on Saturday against AJ McKee on the PFL pay-per-view. Watch Helwani Vision, 4 p.m. The Zone pay-per-view will be here with all our friends. And also the pound-for-pound rankings. Cody Rhodes, number one. Liv Morgan, number one. A lot of people are upset about these rankings. Did get a nice text from

Cody here. That's what I was reacting to. So he's accepting the number one and it's current rankings, my friends. It's current. It's not the PWI yearly rankings. It's not who's best right now. It's what's happening right now. Like literally this week in the business, who's powerful. This can fluctuate. Number 10 could be one next week. We're actually doing it twice a month, but you get the point. So it's all based on what's happening on TV right now and in the business. So please read the fine print. All right. Very, very important. All right. So we got that out of the way. Go check it out. We got the Bantamweight update on the way or out of the way, I should say. Now some quick questions and we'll call it a day. Remember, first episode of The Crack in this new era, 1 p.m. Eastern. So every day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 1 p.m. Eastern, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Helwani show, Friday, Crack, Thursdays, today, boys in the back. And then we got Helwani Vision on DAZN pay-per-view.

We will be doing a post-show following PFL on Saturday, so around 7.30 Eastern, and it's going to be a reunion of sorts a three pock reunion you've been asking for it you're getting it myself pizzi and the man in the hat chuck minnenhall reacting to everything that went down in riad saudi arabia uh next weekend you'll get a ufc post fight show and watch party and I do want to correct the record. Every time I talk about Helwani Vision, I'm not putting down watch parties, alright GC? I heard you say that. I'm just trying

to explain that on this particular entity, you can watch the pay-per-view with us as opposed to a traditional watch party where you're just watching the people watching the event. That's all. Stuff. Yeah. I just want to, you know, I'm listening uh i i feel like records need to be corrected um el jose nate x william 1981 mike tv it's crazy how it stuff sounds so clear in my ear that i don't know if it's actually

him saying it or the draw that's what i've been noticing too i hope these people don't think i'm saying it every single time it's just very good it's so good uh it's tough do we remember what you were referring to like what you were talking about we were talking about like how you take your philly cheese steaks and like the differential thing and now it's been turned into this like emotional moment. Like when people clip off the video, my face does look like very emotional and very sad. And like,

I'm just like, it's tough. I think I was completely zoned out because of how dumb the conversation was. But yeah, it was about food or something. I love it. Um, anyway,

uh, Mike TV, Tom thumb, William, 1981, Nate X, El Jose, uh,

all gave us super chats welcoming us back to YouTube and back to this channel. Thank you very much. Now, Aquiles Jr. said Ariel singing that KSI song is almost as annoying as New York Rick's hot takes.

Can you believe that? Yesterday I was singing it to my kids and this morning i'm in the thick of it everybody knows kill his junior to it from dun dun dun dun rose have you guys listened to it no come on absolutely not ring to the king i will say now your rendition of it has started to seeking because you you sing it so much also get this achilles junior guy out of here send him back to the old spot We don't need him over here

Jason Carney asks if there's any fight news on Jessica Rose Clark That one I may have answered yesterday I think you did yeah And there isn't Tech gave 20 quid which is British pounds About 25 bucks To get a boys in the back Excuse me to get boys in the back a beer

He would like you guys to take that 25 bucks And get a beer in the back excuse me to get boys in the back a beer he would like you guys to take that 25 bucks and get a beer after the show that's incredible something that i should also talk about when it comes to yahoo snacks yes i think uh we might have covered we have the two beers on tap yes i was just gonna mention that and then you know they're festive for october october fest and a pumpkin pumpkin and can i just say we had a nice little toast yesterday we did we did do we have the footage of rick you had the you had the mini you're the mini cup it was like than a pumpkin one. Pumpking and... That's great. Can I just say we had a nice little toast yesterday. We did. We did. Do we have the footage of Rick? You had the mini... We do.

You had the mini cup. It was like 90% foam. You're like, cheers, guys. Listen, I was just taking a little shooter, okay? I'm not a big drinker.

I'm driving home. Although today, no car because of all the stuff going on. My kids are off from school. I had to take an Uber in. Oh, wow. God forbid.

Yeah. God forbid. Listen, it is tough is tough you know it is tough not having stuff certainly tough uh so so you know we can partake but uh we do have a a papa shot in the middle of the office here and you know gc goes up there he gets an 85 I believe no I think you got a 53 Right A backpack and drops an 85 Yeah Rick sorry you were out there You got a 53 right I got a 53 I thought that was going to stand the test of time I thought that that was fantastic

Then all of a sudden Rick rolls in And he gets an 85 With a jacket And a backpack and I'm, what the hell is this? I mean, I was literally thinking, like there was a Francis Ngannou voice in my head. And I was like. Frank.

Frank. So it was. Wow. There was a Francis Ngannou voice in my head. What the? I was watching Rick go like this. What the fuck is that? Yeah. I was like, what is that yeah yeah yeah

i'm a machine bro i mean and then and then and then you come back gc and you try again and then rick freaking slams dunk on all this we have the footage we have the footage let's see it let's see i want to see this this is amazing stuff no audio just let's see the footage let's just react i mean look at the form the form is absurd because he so i'm on i'm on the screen right now because i'm showing that i got in late he just did it but look at that double-handed yeah one seats the other way down the court is no no there's there's a lot of controversy yeah yeah legality when it comes up to to the way he's it's because of the it's this is a i think what people are not understanding This is a very small one

You're very close You are all welcome You are all welcome to take the same stance I've taken I encourage you I actually did I got my highest score yet 69 Shout out I might just never break that one But your form is impeccable

And it benefited me. Yeah. By the way, my point is, I mean, look at this. Incredible. The scenes. My point is, even if you are leaning over, it's absurd to do that. Yeah. Like, I tried to do it.

I got, I think, 50 and my arms were dead tired. I had just done like 50 push-ups because that's what I do before. So I was, was you know understandably tired but still very very impressive hall of famer yeah i mean it's true i've been getting the reps at old dmb so uh shout out to them if they look if they want to they want to sponsor your boy like we can bring people in here i'll face off with them they'll never win i'll eat their bones and send them and spit them out and send them back um but this is my thing this this here there's two things in this world that i'm very confident in there's a lot of things but two the

most number one pop a shot yes number two connect four wow unclassic as to steal a line from kayla harrison unfuck withable wow two things Okay. So I welcome all comers. We might have to test this. We might have to test this. I rarely even asks if the, if the boys and myself believe in Joe Hendry. I'm going to guess that you guys don't know who Joe Hendry is. Never heard of him.

Who me? Sorry. He's become a cult like favorite in the wrestling scene. He's got a great gimmick and believe believe in Joe Hendry as a thing. He's very fun. I'm a fan. Let's see how far he goes. People are into it.

Reza asks if we will see Conor McGregor fighting in Q1 next year, maybe in Los Angeles, as was rumored on Reddit. I don't think he fights on that card. The latest that I'm hearing is Islam versus Armin on that card, and I don't think they put put Connor on a card like that. So perhaps later on in 2025. Devil Eggs asked, why is the UFC allowing Jon Jones to potentially duck Big Tom and quit versus how they acted when GSP did the same exact thing after beating Bisping for

the middleweight title? Well, you'll recall he beat Bisping and then got sick and said, I need to go. He didn't say he was going to do it beforehand. And I do believe that Jon Jones is somewhat trolling us when saying, oh, I might leave. One thing UFC hates is someone retiring as champion. They will hold it against you. They don't like it. It creates chaos. It creates a vacant title. And so I would like to think and have a feeling they have talked to John about his plans and have expressed the desire to not leave them high and dry. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this has been discussed. Now, ultimately, can he do what he wants? Of

course. There's no gun to his head. He can do whatever the hell he wants. But I don't think John, it has built up too much. I don't think he walks away before that fight, if at all, you know, comes together. Al Sparero versus John Jones. And that would be something too.

Let's do it. Allegiant Stadium after the Aspinall fight, if it all goes his way, let's do it. Matt Borgenson said, it is blatantly obvious to most people and commentators that Ben Whitaker quit. Look, people get hurt. Crazy things happen. He was seen with his ankle taped up in the airport. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he's got tremendous skill. Don't forget to say silver medalist,

the Olympic games. He's not some schmuck. He's not some jabroni. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. And let's see how he responds. It was a, it was a weird scene. You don't know what could happen.

I mean, Daniel Cormier said he once sneezed and blew out his back. Crazy things happen. Why does everybody want to see his downfall so much? It seems like everybody hates him. When you're flashy, when you're, I don't know. But he's flashy, but he's not like an asshole. You know what I mean?

He's actually very nice and pleasant. He seems like a sweet, nice man. Like MVP is flashy. I guess actually MVP, a lot of people root for his downfall. So I actually, I guess I get it. He doesn't get the same vitriol from the UK fans. I feel like the UK fans for some reason are like, no, no, no, you're too much. I don't understand it.

He seems like what you'd want, right? He's an entertainer. I get like you would potentially limit what his ceiling is and say like maybe he's not going to be,

you know, world champ. But like, why do they hate him? It seems like everybody hates him. There's a weird thing with the cocky guys in the UK. We talked about it a little bit with Ade, right?

Yeah. It's, I don't know. It's a weird thing. It's like you can't be too cocky um and and ultimately like the last couple fights haven't been tremendous so if you're sure but that's not a reason to like hate on the guy and he quit and this and that like i don't know it just seems like he gets an outsized amount of of hate commens not commensurate with kind of i don't disagree i don't disagree at all it's weird michael madden asked about a theoretical

concept of a fighter booking fights every time he has a court date to postpone the court date disagree i don't disagree at all it's weird michael madden asked about a theoretical concept of a fighter booking fights every time he has a court date to postpone the court date um i i floyd was kind of accused of doing something like this um and you know i don't think the court really cared if you guys remember um so how about this how about don't get to the point where the court date is is a thing in your life and and you avoid that that would be good uh i have to crack my jaw can you go to the other guys for a second no go ahead man crack it what people tune in for how about that uh that was good we got screenshots we got screenshots back here that'll be a good reaction one that'll actually be great for a thumbnail.

Yeah, you know what? I'm going to send that to our designer right after the show. Shout out, Oven. It almost looks like you unhinged like a snake or something. Jake from Windy City. Beelzebub, A-W for life, A-E-W that is. Jason and Freddie and many more in the chat asked if we are doing memberships on this channel. In fact, I do believe we very recently got the green light. We are. This is

happening and they're going to be much better than the previous ones. There's going to be so much more than just badges and emojis. I'm telling you, we're really going to give this channel the TLC that, I'm not saying it was missing before. We've evolved from step one to step two to step three, but there's a lot more to come as far as memberships are concerned very, very soon. Perhaps, perhaps, dare I say, as soon as next week. So stay tuned. Stay tuned for that. Hayden, as an arrow, wants to see if Dustin Poirier's BMF four-man tournament could happen in Lafayette. He asks, why can't that happen when Invicta do women fighting three times in one night? It can.

UFC just doesn't want to do it. There's also limitations on the format of the fights, which is another thing. You can't do. Sure. You're right. There's a limited number of rounds, and so that's why promotions are limited in how they can do it you would you would not get three you would not get three three minute uh three five minute rounds per each fight if you did it what would you get i think it's it's it's it's uh you could do like three threes or two

fives or something like that i forget what the what the limitation our limitation is but you cannot there there is a certain number of total minutes slash rounds that you can fight and so that's why one night tournaments are hard to do in the capacity that we expect three fives there's no you know there's there's no real upside right now for the ufc to do it um they're so mainstream there's there's there's concerns about you know health and safety and all that stuff there's no real upside it was from a different era in their history a totally different era and uh they don't have to do it others perhaps need to do it as a as a gimmick to get noticed which is fine and there are fighters who want to do remember there was once a time pfl was doing it

a couple years ago um and they've moved away from that as well. They would do like the semifinals, which is crazy that the last step before the million dollars was that. So yes, Invicta have done it, but UFC won't do it. Now, will they do a sort of unofficial tournament, if you will? They really don't like branding things as tournaments, but you can kind of see sometimes that it's an unofficial tournament. Sure you will. They really don't like branding things as tournaments, but you can kind of see sometimes that it's an unofficial tournament. Sure, I just don't know if the chips will fall to where they will do

something like that. The other problem is a potential disappointment, right? Like if somebody gets injured, a winner gets injured in one of the first bouts or both winners get injured in the first bouts, now you have the fights between either a winner and a replacement or two replacements, and it's just like nobody gets what they want.

The one night is better in our minds. Like we built it up as this thing that from the old era we would love, but it's actually not as good in execution. We really want to like dial in and make sure we're getting the best fights. Agent P asks if I'm going to interview pro wrestlers from wwe or aew or is there another show where wrestlers will be featured uh he is sending us love from india and i do believe by the way yesterday because of the time difference was a holiday in sri lanka We have a member of our team who is residing in Sri Lanka. And so I wanted to send good wishes

to all our friends in Sri Lanka. Of course, we're going to have wrestlers on. And there was some talk of perhaps having one on next week. I'm just, initially, I want to show you all this is the same old show. People were saying, oh, I miss the MMA.

It's the exact same show with the same people back there and more. Same trinkets, same format, same everything. So yes, we will have the wrestlers on from time to time when it's pertinent, when they're in town, the in-studio ones I like a lot, have no fear. But there is a plan down the road, maybe in six or so months, where we have the A8 show, boys in the back as well. There's a MMA specific show in the crack. We have a boxing specific show, Ariel and Ade, that premieres next Tuesday. That is this coming Tuesday, I should say, October 22nd. That show will premiere on DAZN, their app.com. The audio of that show will be on our one and only podcast feed. That's where you can also get the boys in the back and the crack tomorrow. And this show, of course, and all the other stuff that we're doing, the Ariel Helwani show feed.

And down the line, I have a desire to have a wrestling only show, not necessarily hosted by me. Lord knows you hear enough of me and from me um and so we will get to that that's kind of another that's that's a i would say perhaps a day three project if you will you guys get what i'm saying i'm picking up where you're laying down yeah jama uh clow uh says that he saw gc in his tux on the train and was afraid to say hi this morning. Now, is Klaue lying to us? Because if you were not wearing a tux, that was not you.

It was another guy who looks like you, perhaps Slava Claus or something like that, or Guram. Were you wearing the tux on the train? Yeah, it's confirmed on the boys in the back. Yeah, so he did say anything. Wow. Yeah, I was too scared to come up, I guess.

Wow. Just said hey. What train? What train? I'm not going to specify. Okay. see me wow yeah it was too scared to come up i guess wow uh what what what train what train i'm not gonna specify okay yeah don't need that don't need that heat on me fair enough wow you're getting mysterious on us as well welcome i mean you know daily commute do we need uh you want my address as well id social security what else you want that's fair it's fair uh last but not least Novum asks What my take was on the Highly debated Nina Drama vs MMA Guru

Flame War last week I don't know Exactly what a flame war is I did see some tweets actually courtesy of some of our friends And honestly My take on it is this I actually think that I have said this before it's not just me now,

I think that Nina Drama provides a great service to the MMA community. Not everyone has to do interviews like I do them or like anyone else does them. Actually, what I always say to people who want to get into combat sports journalism is be different. Look at what everyone else is doing and be different. Do something different everyone else is doing and be different. Do something different. Have a different voice, have a different angle, have a different way of doing interviews, have a different way of getting things out of the fighters.

You don't always have to get the nitty gritty. You can have fun with them and stuff like that. There's different ways of doing content or journalism, whatever you want to call it. And so I actually think that she was smart in that she surveyed the landscape and said, oh, there's a path here. And of course, fighters are great subjects to have in a seat or in a spot like that because they're very open to selling themselves, to promoting themselves, to having fun, to playing ball, if you will, as opposed to a superstar in the NFL or NBA who's a part of a

system and doesn't necessarily have to do that because he's not getting paid based on ratings or pay-per-view or things like that. So it makes a lot of sense. I think that it's a great idea. And the content is obviously very popular. Now on the flip side of things, you have my good friend MMA Guru. And I can confirm I was in fact in the chat yesterday and it was a great time and I got a great welcome. It was a nice pop that I received. I have also said that he provides a service and a voice to fans as well. And everyone is able to pick and choose what they want. There's enough out there and there's a litany of other people who are grinding away and putting out content

and doing their thing. Not everyone has to like everything. Lord knows I don't like everything. Lord knows I don't watch or consume everything. But if you're able to break through and be consistent and put out a different product than X, Y, and Z, you're going to be successful. And that's what you're seeing between both of them.

I don't know exactly what the beef is here between the two of them, but I would say there's room for everyone. There's opportunities for everyone. There's opportunities to be different and to build your own fan base. And God bless. I tried to come from a place of journalism and interviews and being relatively positive and things like that. Other people may have different approaches to doing it and other people don't really care about journalism in the traditional sense and doing things differently on the internet content

is all fair game. It's all good if the subjects want to partake. So I would say to everyone, peace and love, peace and love, peace and love. Get together. It's a lot more fun if you're on good terms. If people need to catch strays, they need to catch strays. That's just the way it is.

Figurative ones, of course. I did extend the olive branch to my old friend, Ali Abdelaziz, and he shot it back in my face. He shot it back in my face as he was once again playing his favorite role of house manager and kissing Dana White's tuchus, and that's okay. And that's okay. He did, I do believe, threaten to slap all of us if he ever saw us in person. Did you guys see that? No.

Okay, good. Don't see it. Okay. But I got your back. I just want to let you know if push comes to shove. I mean, hopefully I'm not there if you do see him because I don't want to get slapped. I mean, who does? Yeah, I don't want to get slapped either.

Yeah. Who, me? Just thought, you know, in the, who does? Yeah, I don't want to get slapped either. Yeah. Who, me? Just thought, you know, in the spirit of extending all the branches, it wasn't very nice. You know, it wasn't very kind, I thought. But the offer still stands, by the way. The offer still stands.

All right, I think that's it. What do you guys think? Were there any other questions? I mean, you know, yesterday they were over here saying, oh, it's too much content How am I going to get all this content? We shove in, ah, we're just going to interview One more

You know, no big deal One more, right? NBD I don't think as of right now We are planning to be back here tomorrow No, there are no plans to be back here tomorrow We will not be back here tomorrow What if we get a call

From John Jones God bless him Have a good Friday John What if we get a call From Jamal Anderson Hey man Jamal Anderson I was thinking of someone

That's near to your heart I would say Well Jamal Why are you calling me Didn't you just go to jail For cocaine possession or something? Is that true? At one point he was sniffing cocaine off the toilet seats in Atlanta.

Dirty bird? Yeah. Damn. Yeah, 98, great year. Apparently very dirty bird. Listen, man, to each their own. Yeah. Amen.

Amen. We will be back though on Saturday. We will be here on Saturday. We will be here on Saturday. Wait, what's this on Saturday? Yeah, no. Some of We will be back, though, on Saturday. We will be here on Saturday. We will be here on Saturday. Wait, what's this for on Saturday? Yeah, no. Some of us will be back on Saturday. Some won't.

Jordan likes to take Saturdays off. Oh, listen, I heard this. I was like, wow, new guy. Every Saturday, he's just like, I can't make it. Wow, new guy. Jordan is my new brother, and he needs to take Saturdays off.

Frank, I heard you guys were beefing, so I'm surprised to hear that. I'm trying to clear the record. Okay. J-Dog and I are – what's that? Oh, J-Dog. On air, Jordan. Oh.

Doesn't work on the Sabbath. All right. But I can tell you this. I can tell you the lineup. We will be watching the A.J. McKee-Paul Hughes fight with Tyron Woodley. Again, it's going to be box Box box feed here okay It's going to be all in one spot but only On DAZN pay per view we'll be watching

The Johnny Eblen Fight against Fabian Edwards with Chael P We'll be watching the swing bout With Tim Welch We'll be watching the Chris Cyborg Larissa Pacheco fight with Megan Anderson and Jake Paul will be stopping by. Perhaps we can tell him about what Alex said. He'll be stopping by for the main event. He was there and sat right between Hena Fajeda and Francis Ngannou did a face-to-face with them. So that seemed apropos. So go on to Zone 4 PM Eastern. We'll be here with you and then we'll have a post show on this

YouTube channel right afterwards. 3Pac reuniting in the new era, the uncrowned era to talk about Battle of the Giants. Tomorrow again, 1 PM Eastern, The Crack. Dan Hardy, Paul Hughes joining Pizzi Carol. So stay tuned

for that. Please do continue to give us a thumbs up in the chat. Yeah, thumbs up in the chat. Give us a sub, give us a notification, hit the bell, give us a follow on Spotify, a sub on Pod. All those things count. They all matter. Comment, rate, review.

We're seeing it, we're feeling it. And the drive, Ant has thrown it out there. He wants 250,000 subs on this channel by Christmas. Do you think we reached that point? What do you guys think? Yeah. We're at 187. I think we reached it by Thanksgiving.

Damn, dog. Canadian Thanksgiving? I was actually, as I was saying the number, I was like, Ariel, don't say the number. Don't put it out there. But you know what? Stuff. Was that live or not? Yes, wow stuff oh you mean is he saying yeah it was a drop uh the drive to 25 i can't get a the drive to 250 the drive to 25 is alive let's go guys what do we got a little over two months can we get to 250 what do you think

yes i think we're gonna achieve conceive conceive conceive believe achieve that is it or something like that achieve conceive believe achieve yep that's it uh frank you can my music music which i heard by the way on uh the boys in the back yeah that was our music it's so crazy i mean i offer it up i and then i get shat on The Boys in the Back. Yeah, I think this is our music now. Actually, you're using The Boys in the Back music now. It's so crazy. I mean, I offer it up and then I get shat on. No, there was no shitting.

It's so yours. That's the thing. Give me a favor. Yeah. Who is the yellow guy on the bottle of water you were just drinking? That is an anime character.

You know this? Of course. Pikachu. Oh, okay. That's the one Any input on Who the man in the chair is The man in the chair

What do you mean You guys were talking about this Yeah I guess Oh yes of course I know the man in the chair You were talking about the video Of someone who sat down I'll tell you who that guy was

That guy was an instrumental part Of making this whole operation happen. Now, I'm not going to say his name. He doesn't need that. But what happened there, if you all want to know, everyone thinks that there's always like some great mystery. It's like the Poirier video on my phone. You're killing the kayfabe right now. The man in the chair was killing the kayfabe.

The Poirier video? No, it was the Poirier video on his phone, right? Yes, yes, yes. But I'm just talking about everyone. I get that question. What was on? What was on his phone? It was nothing.

It's an edited video. In any event, someone was helping us and we went live by mistake. Like I said, we're working out the kinks. Wow, the great mystery of the man in the chair has been solved just an hour after we built him up. We're working out the kinks. We're working out the kinks.

It's all a process which we are bringing you along for the ride. That's why we say to you. Killing it here. A great Thursday was had. Thanks to the guys for a great show earlier. Boys in the back. Thanks to Alex.

Thanks to steak. Thanks to Plinio Cruz. Back on Friday. Same time and place. Peace. Peace. Ready.