The Ariel Helwani Show - Arman Tsarukyan, Ben Askren makes major announcement, Action Bronson, massive weekend recap, more

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

Ariel Helwani kicks off the show by recapping a massive combat sports weekend, including Stephanie Han’s win over Holly Holm, UFC Macau and Road to UFC, Darren Till’s BKFC debut, Arman Tsarukyan and Colby Covington’s RAF rivalry, and more (07:14). Music and entertainment icon Action Bronson returns to drop knowledge about a multitude of things, including his New York Knicks being in the NBA Finals, his new album Planet Frog, his thoughts on some upcoming UFC fights, and more (1:03:03). Ben Askren joins to announce that he’ll be wrestling Belal Muhammad for RAF, talking about overcoming his near-fatal health crisis, his preparation for the match, recognizing similarities between his situation and that of NASCAR’s Kyle Busch, who recently died from pneumonia, how he thinks Gable Steveson will do in the UFC, his prediction for Tsarukyan vs. Covington, and more (1:33:51). Ariel and the crew cover some more news and notes, including action from the boxing world, AAA’s mask vs. mask match, Katie Taylor teasing her final fight, UFC releasing soccer merch ahead of the World Cup, and more (2:09:48). Arman Tsarukyan is back following another RAF win to detail his future plans in the wrestling world, provide thoughts on Ilia Topuria vs. Justin Gaethje, react to Colby Covington’s callout, give insights into Khamzat Chimaev's difficult UFC 328 weight cut, react to Ryan Garcia talking about their bet, and more (3:18:53). Ariel wraps up the show with a few more news items, including Dana White’s recent comments about mental health and Anderson Silva, and Eddie Hearn calling for Tom Aspinall’s release (4:03:51), before answering your Super Chats (4:53:35).

Lay and gentlemen, welcome to the Earth Monday, 2006. Hello again, everyone. I sure hope you're doing well. It is great to be here on a lovely June Monday in New York City. It is June, my friends. It's June 1st. Listen, I have to apologize right off the bat. I'm going to apologize to all of you.

I'm going to apologize to all of them in the back. I'm going to apologize to everyone watching us live, listening to us after the fact, you have to help me. You guys have to carry me for the next two plus weeks. I am a ball of nerves. My New York Knicks are in the NBA finals. It starts on Wednesday. For your sake and mine, let us just hope for a Knicks suite so we can be done with this, so we can all rejoice so New York can have the greatest party of all time. So I can have the greatest party of all time. I have told my kids for many years. Knicks win. I'm going streaking. That's what I've said. Knicks and Bills were going streaking in the neighborhood.

I've said this since, I don't know, 10 years back, whenever they were two, three, four years old, I said this to them. They're terrified of it. They continue to remind me of it, but we're going to do this. We know the opponent. We know the task. It's a rematch of 1999. And so I need to apologize to all of you because my mind is elsewhere. My stomach is perpetually in pain.

I have a 24-7 stomachache. I'm nervous. I'm anxious, I'm confident, I'm excited, I'm all those things and more. But I don't know if I'm going to be me, okay? I might be a little bit jumpy. I might be a little ornery at times. At times I may be too happy and then too sad. I just want to give you all a warning.

And so I'm going to need everyone in the back to help me, to carry me at times. This is so great. And it should be great. It should be great. We are living out our dreams. This is everything we want. will we be at game one no will we be at game two

probably not will we be at game three come hell or high water we will be at game three and hopefully six if necessary but this is how I can best describe the feeling that is going on in here and here

the best way to describe it for me is if these dudes can win four games four games over the course of the next two and a half weeks if they could win four games and finally end this A lifetime of pain will be forgotten about. Erased. Gone. A lifetime of pain.

And then a lifetime of angst, relieved, released. There'll be no more angst. The losses won't matter. They won't be painful. It just won't hurt as much. A lifetime of pain erased. A lifetime of angst, future, relieved. That's a lot of pressure.

But I feel it. So I'm very excited. I was sitting there on Saturday in El Paso, wondering, hoping, praying. And here we are. Wednesday night. Who's excited? Watch party, guys. Should we do watch party?

Watch party. You definitely don't want that. Who the fuck is we? No? No, I'm down, but I don't think you're down. There's no chance. Yeah. There's no chance.

No one wants that. Most importantly, I don't want that. Yeah. But you guys, you guys pump? For sure. Yeah. No hat on the Monday. I mean.

It's Wednesday. It's getting washed. It's in the drooling. You know what I mean? Make sure it's fresh. You need to learn from the Arsenal fans. Okay? Yeah, tell me, tell me.

Well, you know, a lot of scenes there from the Arsenal fans. Goading people as penalties went in. And Alastity ended up with an egg on their face, Ariel. And I think you just need to take it one step at a time until you see the trophy in Brunson's arms. Just try and keep an even. kill because these things can come back to boychip, as many Arsenal fans now now. We're not doing that here.

We're not doing that here. I will say a lot of hate towards the Arsenal fans. Like a lot of people were, oh, I was surprised at how many, I was surprised at how many team Twitter pages were openly rooting against them and then mocking them in the aftermath. You don't usually see that.

Like, when the Patriots lost the Super Bowl, the bills weren't making fun of them. I know that's maybe a bad example because the bills haven't won't. But you know what I mean? Like Chelsea, everyone's making fun of them. And I was surprised. I guess they really like despise Arsenal, right?

Well, you know, there's a lot of big talk from Arsenal and they fully deserve to win the league. But there was a lot of like the millions of us. So, you know, you're just, you've woken this sleeping giant. And even when I was in London last weekend, never saw, I've been to London over 20 times in my life. Never saw that amount of Arsenal jerseys in my life, fair play. He's won the league. And there was all talking is millions. There's going to be millions of people out in the streets.

You saw some of the footage of the old parade. didn't look too happy. Okay, so here's the thing about that, in fairness. First of all, awful choice to do it on the Sunday. Bad time. The day after. Literally, 24 hours later, if not less. They had to scrub champions of Europe off the side of the bus, and there was pictures of this.

There's no way that the fan base was in the mood. There's no way that the players were in the mood. It was awful timing. But we were talking about this before, and I haven't seen this said, but I'd have to think that the reason why they had to get it out of the way was because, like, the likes of rice and Saka, they have to get to the World Cup, right? They can't do this on place. One day off.

What? Marquinos, I think he was the captain of PSG, who lived at the trove for them. He has one day off, like to celebrate all this before he goes to meet the building. So they were kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do you do it before the Champions League final?

No, because now you look like you're celebrating and not focusing. So when do you do it? There was really no right answer. It just happened to fall on a horrible, horrible day after the heartbreak of Saturday, right? Like, they couldn't do it today. I think they have to leave today.

I think a lot of the teams have already left. So just a tough break for them. I feel for them. I feel for them. I was sort of just watching and enjoying, but wasn't necessarily rooting for it. Yeah, it was very hard to enjoy it, though. Let's just, you know, credit. How much time do you want to waste every time the ball goes out to play Arsenal? I mean, like 40 odd seconds to fucking take a throw in, 40 odd seconds to take a corner kick.

You know, there was one, there was one totally a gift and a curse, right? Football one, okay? Football one. Okay, that's all I'm going to say. Okay. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. And so I will reiterate, I've never been the type to want to, like, hijack the show, so to speak, and we're not going to do that necessarily.

But just, I beg and ask for forgiveness in advance. Hopefully this is fun and very painless and just jubilant, and we'll all have a great time in about, I don't know, maybe a week and a half or so. Maybe we get this done rather quickly and we can all rejoice. That's how I feel, and that's what I'm hoping for. But we have a lot to talk about, my friends. We have a lot to talk about from combat sports. And Saturday was a real hodgepodge of days. And there's only one website on the planet that covered it all.

Covered it all from the world of MMA, boxing, pro wrestling, bare knuckle, everything in between. That's this website right here, uncrown.com. Number one, unbiased combat sports outlet on the planet, our second best month ever since we became a thing back in October of 2024. It's only a year and a half old, this little outfit. it. And we're very proud of that. Shout out to the team on the dot-com side of things. Shaheen as well, the social team killed it. And so it started, and we'll go through it here in greater detail, but just to give you a sort of sense in case you were sort of out and now checking in as to what actually happened and what did you miss, it started very early Saturday

morning in Macau. Then we went to a boxing event, headline by Dimitri Bivel. Then we had a boxer event, as in the boxing promotion, with an event on BBC following Champions League over in London. We then had a BKFC event, which featured the debut of Darren Till over in Birmingham. We then had an RAF event with the likes of Gable Steeveson, Colby Coventon, Armand Surukin on the card over in Dallas. We then had a great boxing match that had all kinds of fireworks attached to it involving Raymond Ford and Oshaki Foster. We then had a AAA piece of cinema, that's Lucha Libre, by the way, over in Mexico. Mascara versus Mascara, Mask versus Mask. El Grande Americano, OG against El Grande Americano, which was unbelievable.

Going to get into all of this, by the way. I'm just giving you the scope. And then we had MVPW over in El Paso. Some thoughts on that. And, oh, by the way, in case you didn't have enough on Sunday, you had WWE clash in Italy. All that happened between Saturday and Sunday. day and everything except for the WW event happened on Saturday. So it was a really, really fun day. And oh, by the way, in the midst of all of that on Saturday, you also had the Champions League

final and you had a game seven between the Thunder and the Spurs on Saturday night. Unbelievable day. Unbelievable day. And so on today's program, we're going to talk about all of that. News and notes as well as we inch closer to the UFC White House card. It's less than two weeks away now, 13 days to be exact, believe it or now. We've been talking about this since July 4th of last the year. One year almost. Eleven plus months, we've been talking about this. So we'll get into all of that. News and notes, like I said, three tremendous guests. Back into the show, Armant Surukian's going to join us. Talk about his match on Saturday. Talk about White House. Talk about his actual MMA fight career. Talk about the Colby Cumberton fight. We'll get into all of that. Prior to that,

we're going to be joined by Ben Ascran. And I will just say Ben Ascran may be coming with some goods. I'll leave it at that. And then prior to that, we'll be joined by your friend and mine, the perfect person to be talking to on a Monday before a New York Knicks return to the NBA finals. Our friend, your friend, the coolest human being on the planet, diehard Knicks fan, entrepreneur, chef, author, rapper, merchandise, impresario, all that and more. A real Renaissance man at the Great Action Bronson.

going to be joining us on the program. I mean, look at this lineup right here. Is that not A-plus? Is that not A-plus? I was in El Paso, Texas, guys. Frank, you're home away from home. I lived in Houston. That's like on the opposite side of the state. But you said you've been there, right? I have been there, yeah. But this is a fun fact. If you were to drive from Los Angeles to Houston, the halfway point is in Texas, and it's El Paso. So like, the state is freaking huge. Oh, yeah. It ain't easy to get there from this part of the country. I actually had to fly to Houston and then go to El Paso on a tiny, tiny plane. On the way home yesterday, I had a 55-minute layover and my flight was delayed an hour. Usually, gain a little bit of time.

20 minutes to get to the next plane had to sprint to make it. Thankfully, I did with five minutes left, which is not usually, you know, I'm usually someone who likes to arrive two hours in advance, so not my style. But it's nice when it all works out, a little bit nerve-wracking because I didn't want to be stuck in Italy. It's not Italy. I'm looking at Italy here. in Houston. But I will say this about El Paso.

I didn't know much about it other than U-TEP and Tim Hardaway playing there back in the day, U-Tip Two-Step, University of Texas El Paso. It's a really, really fascinating place and a very charming city. It almost feels like you're going back in time, like it's a 1950s western that you're in. The arena that the event was held in was the county coliseum, which reminds me of old school pro wrestling when you would hear about like the territories like, oh, Friday night's events at the County Coliseum. And in fact, I was told that the Guerrero family used to run and kind of really like be

the kings of that territory, if you will, back in the day. And this venue now basically hosts rodeos and the odd concert. So there was a whole stable outside, all very dusty and like where they keep the cows and the bulls and the animals. There's hay everywhere. Just a very unique place to watch boxing. The Mexican border, a 10-minute walk away from our hotel, saw the border while in the cab, saw the wall, saw all that stuff. I believe it's Juarez, Mexico.

Thanks. Did I get that right? Yes, sir. And you could literally just walk there. And I wanted to do it, but I wasn't there for that long. And so I didn't have time. One of our loyal viewers told me to go to L&J Cafe. And, guys, I landed there on Friday.

I put my bags down, I got an Uber, I went to L&J Cafe, I said to the waitress, what do you recommend? I'm a newbie. She said, either get the green chili enchilada or the Mexican combo plate. And I said, Mexican combo plate, what's that? It's just a little bit of everything. And let me tell you, it was a little bit of everything, I'm still full from that meal. The amount that I ate, a couple of lemonade, some chips and guacamole, I ate so much, so filling, so freaking good. Highly, highly recommended if you're ever in El Paso.

If you are from El Paso, you 100% know this place. Highly recommended if you're ever in that region. This is how small town it is. Maybe this was a coincidence. I'm at the hotel, call an Uber to take me to the restaurant. Great. Sit down, hour and a half or so. Get out.

Call an Uber. Same guy comes back. I was like, wait a second. Are you the same dude? Yes, man. I'm like, does that happen often? sometimes. That's how small time this is. Same guy picks me up to take me back to the hotel. Everyone was so sweet, so nice, just so happy that a big event was there. And the coolest thing about

this was that Stephanie Hahn and her whole family, her sister, Jennifer Hahn, is a local legend who lost to Katie Taylor in her last fight and her sister, Stephanie, who fought Holly Holme. They are beloved. It really reminded me of Holly and Albuquerque, where Everyone had, like taxi driver, I went to high school with Jennifer. Everyone has a story about them. They are the home team because there isn't a pro sports team. There's college sports, but that place was packed. And we did a thing where Cindy Serrano, Amanda's older sister and Jennifer Hahn, Stephanie's older

sister came in and they gifted them something and I interviewed them. It was so loud when they announced, when Big Mo announced Jennifer. It was piercing how loud it was. They are beloved. And so the atmosphere was amazing. They were there very early on, held like 6,000 or so, maybe like 7,100. Not the biggest venue. Jampack, legit sellout, no empty seats.

And it was just such, I would never go to this place. Such a unique place to watch a fight. Love when they bring an actual local draw and elevate it on a big stage like ESPN, of course. And it was just, it was a really great experience. I really, really enjoyed it. Again, very unique. I'd never go there. I've never had a reason to go there.

Everyone was so nice and so into the fights. I got to meet Walter McCarty, former New York Nick, drafted in 1996, former Kentucky Wildcart. He's sitting in the front row and I've DM'd with him. He's a big fight fan and there he is sitting in the front row. I'm like, holy crap, Walter McCarty, this is a sign from the gods.

Former New York Knicks sitting in the front row watching this fight, just a really, really fun experience. And the fights were pretty good as well. And obviously the big news coming out of the fight, Well, there were two, I would say. Two pretty big pieces of news. Number one, Amanda Serrano ends up winning. She annihilates her opponent, Cheyenne Hansen.

She stops her in the second round. Her 32nd stoppage tying Christy Martin, her 49th pro win, won away from 50. And as I just said, tying the record. We'll get into detail in a moment. And then number two, it was the Stephanie Hahn-Hawley home fight. And I thought Holly won. I was actually sitting next to her age.

agent, Lenny Fresquez, watching the fight and we're kind of going back and forth, like, I think she got this, I think she got this, I've known Lenny for a million years. He's been with her since day one through all the boxing, Hall of Fame, UFC, Ronda Rousey, all that. And we kind of agreed she had won, like, somewhere in the range of two to four more rounds. But as I was walking into the ring to do the interview, I didn't know, I said, I don't think she's going to get it. Because I'd seen some questionable scorecards throughout the night.

I think atop of my head, there was only one stoppage, and it was the Amandaify. So a lot of the fights went the distance, and I was like, I don't know about these judges. And in the end, they gave it to Stephanie. One judge had it tied, a draw, and then two judges gave it to Stephanie. And it was just unfortunate. You could see how much, you know, Holly was hurting after how upset she was, how pissed off. And I don't know. It's a tough thing.

So anyway, quick, quick thoughts there. But I actually go in order of everything that transpired, all right? I want to go in order of everything that transpired, going back in chronological order. And so UFC Macau guys, Song Yadong beats Davidson Figurado in the main event. Look great, by the way. I mean, I still think Song Yadong is one of the top bantam weights in the world. The question is, can he take that next step?

Is he that guy? I think, would you guys agree? Like, we kind of know Figurato's ceiling at 135. Like, I feel like, I don't know if he's going to get to the belt. I don't know if he's going to have the run, the rain that he had at 125. I'm not by any stretch calling him a sort of gatekeeper, if you will, no way. But he's sort of like a litmus test right now at 35, and I feel like there's a certain hierarchy at the moment at 35. And I still think Song, who I know was coming off the loss of Sean, who I consider a lead at 135.

I mean, when you're just losing to Marab essentially, that's no knock on you. I think song is there and I think Davidson is here. Does that make sense? I don't get fuck. I take whatever you have to give me. Let's go! One of the great drops. Yeah.

One of the great drops. That's definitely going to be in the Hall of Fame. In the Pantheon? It's just said and done. It's retired. Yes. I agree with you. I think, look, I think you're being kind by saying we don't know that Davidson might not get to the belt.

He is not getting to the belt. He has proven his level at Bantamweight. When he came up, I thought he was going to struggle due to the size because he seems like somebody who's too big for flyweight. You know, obviously having trouble making that weight. at various points, but too small for bantam weight. And he kind of proved me wrong with some of that early success. Now in hindsight, some of those wins haven't aged as well, and I just don't know that he can compete with bantam weights up here.

Like, he would probably be best served to really lock in on his diet, go back down to flyweight and try to make another run there because I just don't think he has the physicality to compete at bantam weight. He can make $1.25 at this point. He's 38. Like, he's turning 39 this year. I think that's the biggest part of it. He's lost four of his last five.

He's going against a league competition. He's old at a weight class that is not kind to older fighters. Did you see Josealdo making his late career run at a lower weight class? Like, it's a discipline thing. It's a discipline thing. If he locked in, I'm confident that he could make flyweight again. Would it be horrible for his body? Certainly.

But if he wants to have success, I do not think that that success is going to come at band and weight, point blank. I don't think he's on a success anyway. You don't think at Flyweight? No. That I'd like to see at least. Flywood would be interesting, but it's much, I think Flyweight's much better now than it was when he was. Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. The level of competition has greatly increased at Flyweight. I think that's one of the best divisions we've got in the UFC.

I still think his odds are going to be better there. He carries that power that made a huge difference at Flyweight, which has not seemed to at Bantamweight. He's just facing guys who have answers for everything he has where I flyweight. At least he has that option. But I don't know definitively. Pizzi could be 100% right. And I wouldn't discount the fact that it's just what Connor said. He's too long in the tooth. And this is the end of the road.

As far as Song Yidong goes, he's in that Corey Sandhagan territory for me where it's like, if you put him in there with the best of the best, he can look good. But he doesn't get it. He doesn't get it across the line. He can't get over that hump. And so it puts him in a position where if he fights up, he's fighting against guys that ultimately come out on top when he competes with them. If he fights down, he's giving a big opportunity to somebody,

but he typically gets that one done. And so you're in this no man's land where you can't really creep closer to the title, but you also don't drop down. You're kind of in that middle tier. And there's a few guys that like that at Bantamweight. I think he's in that range now. Well, Corey's fighting next month, International Fight Week, but he already beat him.

Like I was thinking, okay, that'll... He's fought a lot of these guys. I know, I don't know what to do with him. That's the problem. Marab. Mab. Hmm. Song versus Mara?

Or you wait for Umar to fight David. Wait, but Marab's going to get a title shot. Rob, yeah, Marob's presumably getting the next shot of Yon, right? Well, then Umar, umar's voting David Martinez in July, win on that one. Well, that was just announced. Good segue there. We can mention, speaking of the Bantamweight Division, that Umar and Magamatov versus David Martinez has just been announced for the Abu Dhabi car.

not the main event. The main event, there it is. And that's a solid fight. David Martinez, man, getting hooked up. Yo, it's a great fight for him, great opportunity for him. Rocket shipped to the top. This is only his fourth fight in the UFC.

Big dog in that one, you think? I would imagine so, yeah. I like it. I like it. Kaleo Roundtree versus Mago Medan on Kalev is the actual main event. And I think that's a solid one at light heavyweight. I feel like Khalil keeps getting put in these like sort of overseas fights.

It's not ideal. Yeah. Yeah, but it's still a huge opportunity for him. Yeah, massive. Yeah, massive. See, man. If he's able to beat Uncle I've. You don't like him in that fight?

I favor our Maga met Al-Galaia for sure, but I mean, anything can happen in fighting. So that's the 135-pound division. I don't know. I don't know if there's, I was just looking at the rankings. I mean, I guess if Batista wins, if Mario Batista beats Corey, that could be interesting. And they did fight several years ago. But all in all, for now, just a good win, I think, for the market. For Song to win in Macau, place was going crazy.

He was fired up afterwards. It was, you know, it was sort of the perfect end to the very early morning card here in the United States. I thought Ming Yang Zhang was going to be that guy, not that long ago, but he's not that guy. And I think they thought that too, right, around a year ago. But he's not that guy. He lost to Alonzo Menefield in the first round. Pizzi's a big, you're a big Alonzo guy, right? Well, we just knew that we're going to find out once Alonzo got in there.

You know, if there was any questions after Johnny Walker, Alon's going to find out, and he found out. Yeah. So that was a first round disposal. It was a wild fight. It was a wild fight. Yeah, I mean, a lot of the fights, Sergei Pavlovich. Pavlovich has kind of become a fun character. His social media is very fun.

He beat Talas and Cheshara in just 39 seconds. I don't know. Nice to see the power back for Sergey, man. Those three decisions. I mean, like, let's bring what got you here, man. Bring that power back. It's nice to say. 100%.

What do you think of as chances of getting the winner of Pereira V. Gan? Listen, it's all very weird because I still think John Jones is looming. Obviously, Tom has to fight the winner. Is there a world where he fight? I don't know. At the moment, he's ranked number three in the heavyweight division. Heavyweight's fucked up, isn't it?

It's heavyweight. You could literally be. Sergey Pavlovich and win like one or two more of these in a row and get a title shot very easily. Like Waldo Cortez was knocking on the door. Josh Hokkaid is five. He's a win over Waldo Cortez. I'm just saying, yeah, but I just say look how fast all

this materializes. Like, is it maybe Josh Hokit? I think it's all of that. I love that. I love that. That's a fucking great. American versus a Russian. Yeah, and Hokka would play that up. Oh yeah. And like, he's got a win though. Hokit is not afraid to walk into the fire and walking into the fire with Sergey Patton. I will say,

if we don't, if we don't know the timeline on Tom, right? I would expect Josh Hokia would get the next title shot. So that changes the equation. By the way, this is if he wins. He has to beat Derek Lewis. He has to beat Derek Lewis, which I expect him to. Then Alex and Cyril resolve their conflict at Freedom 250.

If Tom is not immediately able to go, I would expect that Josh Hokit is in there and that changes that plan. If Tom is able to go and fights the winner of that fight, then I think you can do a Hokka versus Pavlovich. and resolve that. Josh Hoka currently minus 315. Also, respect to Rick there for calling it Freedom 250. Oh yeah.

UFC at the White House. Fair play. Fair play. Or UFC 250. There's been a lot of UFC 250, which again, Felicia Spencer. Seathing. Yeah, it's disrespectful. Disrespectful.

I agree. If he asked me. Kaya Socorah moving up to 135 and just absolutely, you know, annihilating Cameron Smotherman. What a knockout. And he looks great. And G.C. alerted me of the fact that I didn't know this. Like, the man is just on fire online.

Right? Anything he posts turns to gold. Like every one of his tweets is like, I think he did a selfie from the octagon was like, oh, it's good to be back, 50,000 likes. Posted a YouTube video, like breaking down the win. It's at like 600,000 views in a day. Like, everything he posts just does nuclear numbers for him. So like the Japanese people, like, it's not the same as a Tatsuro Taira or Kiyoji Horaguchi. Like the engagement this guy gets on social is wild. So hopefully he can have success at 135. I got to talk to our friends at X, Jamie and the whole crew there. I feel like anyone in Japanese sports does nuclear on X. I feel like X is so popular. There's a player on the Blue Jays, Kaz Okamoto. Anytime the Blue Jays account posts anything random, it's going to get like, you know, 800. They post about him. It's like 7K.

And they'll do it in Japanese and you have to click on the translate. I don't know if it's that particular platform is just super. popular on or in Japan but support their people or that yeah or that but he looked great good for him this is the guy that I think a lot of people were expecting to see when he came to the UFC Jake Matthews defeated Carlston Harris for unanimous decision feels like Jake Matthews has been in the UFC for like 15 years and it still feels like he's 27 he's actually in case you're wondering 31. His UFC debut was in

20. He was on the ultimate fighter. The Canada Australia won and lost to Olivier Obamersier in 2014. Who's had a full career, been retired for years now. Crazy. Unbelievable. Yeah, it was like a multi-PFL

tournament winner has been retired for like three years. And this dude's 31. 31. Song only being 28 is very beneficial form as well. Like, song is still very early in this game. Good point. Alex Perez Sumadherjee ended in a no contest, groin strike, and there was the shot of Alex Perez's head. Did he actually throw up, or was his head just in the bucket? I don't know if he actually threw up? Yeah, hard. Who's to check? Didn't see like the bile. Who's to check?

Yeah, it felt like a spewed environment. It felt like you could feel it, you know what I mean? Yeah. There was something there. Angela Hill gets another decision. Ray. It was very impressive. It was one of her better fights, right? Yeah, very, very good. She posted a picture of her holding the one championship belt afterwards.

All this well and good. To me, other than Song Yadong, Pavlovich, shout to Alonamante Mefield. Sheming is my new favorite fighter. We got to get sheming on the program, guys. I love this girl. You remember we played the video of her last week? Yeah, yeah. Did you see her post-fight interview?

She's unbelievable. She wasn't even on this card. She was on the road to UFC. What did she say? She was the headliner of the second day of the road to me. I have the awkward distinction of having the most road to UFC fights. She's unbelievable. Actually, I think it's...

Her and Rongzhou. Long Ju has the most... What? Her fact was wrong? Wrong Zhu has like four or five now. Yeah. Yeah, how many roads to the UFC do these people have to take? Well, these were like UFC main events on the road to UFC. A tracked more people like, well, bro, you thought Puget Tomar was on the road to UFC?

That's a vet right there. Hell yeah. So anyway, that was the UFC. early in the morning. What was that? Shout out to Sean Classic. Shout out to Sean Abannon.

She smoked Tomar. Wait. That's a Hall of Fame fight. I saw actually Sean Abandon's going to be at a meeting greet for the Zouva boxing in Bournemouth, as Dana White likes to say. They're bringing her out there. I think Finn Baller. Anyone who's local, I guess. Finn Baller and Sean Abandon have him boosts each other at the meeting greet. That's a dream day right there.

I'm not saying Dublin is... Born mounting. Is he not... Yeah, just making sure. But... Yeah. Was this in the day

and I think he... Was he not calling it Born's mouth as if it was Portsmouth? Like, it's like he got Portsmouth and Bournemouth mixed up and I thought he was saying Bornsmouth.

Bornsmouth. But it wouldn't be surprised. Anyway, that was UFC in the morning. All well and good. By the time it was breakfast in El Paso, we were done and dusted with that one. Then we moved.

along to Eka Terenberg, Russia, where Dmitri Bivel disposed of, you know, mandatory... You weren't impressed? He knocked him down the first round

that went to distance, didn't he? On cue. I love the canvas. Yeah, it looks good, but Bivel was a minus 2,500 in this fight, and he still went to distance. I mean, he almost He almost ended him in the first, but yes. But then went 11 rounds after this, of not finishing him.

He was trying to get in the rounds. It was not a very good fight. I mean, if you looked at the stats, Ifer threw nothing. This was kind of like the Canelo fight in Saudi last year where no one really wanted to see the fight and I don't know how much. A lot of people give Canelo crap in that fight and giving Bivel. Like there was no reason to even take a risk. You know what I mean?

To put yourself in trouble. Yes, you could say he should have gotten rid of it. The highlight, though, were the wayans. Did you see the weigh-ins, Pizzi? Did you see what they had these guys do? Oh, it was some kind of scene. Look at this right here. Oh, Jesus.

It's like one of those cameras on the wedding. This is crazy. Do you know what they do those wrap around cameras at the wedding now? Yes. One of the glasses on them. Knowing Bivel, like, you got to be, like, he's got to be thinking right now, like, when is this going to end? What the fuck am I off here? You can see, like, the lime green tape to mark where the, you know,

they're supposed to be standing. He's like, all right, guys. Still going. Yeah, that's horrendous. What happens if they have an altercation on there? How are you breaking that up? It's a great point. It's actually a great point.

Very dangerous. Maybe they're a great point. Please, guys. No shenanigans. I was hearing that there's a rumor that there's like a really, really, really. So that wasn't a matchroom card that there's a super rich, like a billionaire, a Russian billionaire who wants to pay incentives. sane money to have Bivel Better Biev three either in Russia or somewhere in the Middle East,

not Saudi. And so that might be next. Of course, there was some talk of David Benavides going back down and fighting him. He wants that fight. But now he's at Cruiser Wade. Who the hell knows what's going to happen? Right after the Champions League, we had the Adam Azim fight in London against Steve Claggett.

I think, Pizzi, you were able to watch. We weren't able to watch this in the United States because it, Boxer doesn't have a US distributor now. But it was on BBC too. Yeah, it's terrestrial TV, massive audience, obviously. It's nice to have boxing back on BBC with Boxer, obviously. Great showcase for Azam. I believe there was meant to be three fights on the car, but they only showed two.

Francesco was the other one. Tennessee. Yeah, she got rid of her opponent, I think, in the first half of the fight anyway. But it came off well. There was no bullshit. It was, you know, fight to fight. we're expecting that order for you. I don't know what happened with that,

but... So is it literally Champions League and then... And boxing? They lifted... PSG lifted the Cup at, I'd say, about 8pm and that broadcast started at 8.30, so it was...

Wow, that's a huge spot. And by the way, why wouldn't the Champions League Final be on BBC won? Because TNT have the rights. Oh. Oh, so wait, Champions League Final is not airing on BBC. No, it's ITV and TNT.

Got it. I thought it. it was on the same channel and that was the aftermath. But it's still terrestrial TV. Like all the pubs would have switched from OATV to BBC. Like it gets messy on the app,

as I said before, on the crack. Like, lads run and bars don't want to be going through apps and trying to sync them to TVs and stuff. It's just what's handy, what can I press with the button and get the channel on?

So I'm sure that I had a lot of success because people don't, it was a very early Champions League, you know, 5pm. So people are like 8pm. We don't want to go home yet. Put on something. and work powerfully in that regard.

You were having a mirror, right, with the, the UFC. Isn't that sure that you can find it? No, like, it just wasn't there. So usually you just go to TNT. It's on one of the four channels there. Nowhere there. Then people are telling me, go to HBO Max. So I go to HBO Max.

It's not on any of the home screens. In the end, we found out you had to go onto TNT, press the red button on your Sky Remote, which eliminates anyone that doesn't have SkyO from watching this, by the way. Like, they, if you don't have that system with Skype package, you can't get it. Like a lot of people use Now TV or Virgin Media. They don't have access to them extra.

So there was a lot of people, few in my comment saying they had to, they have, they have TNT, but they had to like use different means to watch the fights. Oh my gosh. You know, it's still unclear and I can't find the answer. No one's saying when that deal is up, I have to think that they're just waiting to bring it over to Paramountas. It was absolutely buried. Yeah.

Like it was, you really have to be looking for it to see it. I do think it's because. they have the rights to the tennis as well. And the Champions League, there's a lot of shit going on. The Super bikes was on TNT as well. So I just think it was just one of those weekends where they were trying to spin so many plates and it just got kind of lost in the sauce. Yeah, and because it was in China, this was in the afternoon over in the UK and Ireland,

as opposed to like late night when they're kind of by themselves as far as domestic sports are concerned. Shortly thereafter, we traveled from London to Birmingham, excuse me, for BKFC 90. And this featured the debut of one Darren Till, but we won't start there. We'll actually start with the old Welshman himself, Mr. John Phillips. Did you happen to see the buildup for this one? John Phillips was going up against the guy named Ryan Barrett, not Barnett, Barrett, and him and his missus were making fun of him.

They were calling him all kinds of names. What do they call him? They called him something awful. Some awful name they called them in the... I'm not going to repeat that. I might bump with John Phillips. He's a terrifying man, okay? They shouldn't have said what they said.

And let's see the aftermath. Yeah, let us see. PT calling for the clip. We have the clip right here. Here's John Phillips against Mr. Ryan Barrett in the BKFC Birmingham main card. Oh, the stanky. John Phillips in the black trunks, by the way. Here it comes.

And it's coming. Oh, yeah. And there she blows. And then he goes up to the misses. and hits her with at least one bird, maybe double birds? Silly game, silly prizes, you know what I mean? I'm not going to, you know, you can't be talking. Do you know what?

I think John Phillips, honestly, I think he can be such a fucking huge success in this. He is, he is like kind of a whole. Here he comes, here he comes. Get flipping her. Oh, double birds of the best. Have that love. Have that. Sorry, sorry.

Keep going. They like these apples. But, you know, this guy, like a lot of U.S. people probably don't know. But like, he is around decades. And the word about John when I started covering MMA in, like, 2009, 2010 was just a dangerous motherfucker, like the hardest hitting guy. People didn't want to spar him. I remember Chris Fields falling.

He just said, like, I don't think I've ever been hit by a guy like that in my life. And they were, like, he, he being fights where you're like, okay, he has, like one skill set here and it's hitting like a bat, like very early days I'm talking about. He hits really, really hard. and he'd be against these really well-rounded dudes, but as you saw there in that fight, when he hits people, they just fall to shit. Like, I personally, I know Darren Till wasn't into it,

but I was salivating at the thoughts of Phillips v. Till. I don't know if they could find the right weight division for it, but Phillips called him out at that pre-fight and Till, and as he has every writer, he is a much bigger name than John Phillips, but I was like, holy shit, I would love to see John Phillips be Darren Till. And I honestly think Phillips, I know he's not

anywhere near the stock or whatever, but he could be some kind of European equivalent to Mike Perry if they market this guy right, because he is quite a character, as you remember, even when he was guiding you around the caravan, he used to park outside John Kavana's house when he was in Australia, SBG. He is one of a kind in terms of personality.

The Welsh Wrecking machine, one of the great nicknames in the game. Good to see him get the W. The main event featured RICO, Franco versus Connor Tierney. You may have seen this online. You may have not. Here we go. All kinds of madness here.

Look how many knockdowns here. Rico Franco getting knocked down. Look at this. That's a fucking disaster that one. Excuse me. Connor's the one getting knocked down. Rico's the one doing the knockdown and

the knocking down. And look at this. I think in total it was five and yeah he looks great uh look at mr connor tierney look at his face afterwards look at his mouth in particular what is that it's broken job what is that it's split he split his jaw like it's it's you could see what do what do you do how do do you fix it how do you fix it you've been through a straw for a long time i'll tell you that's for sure that's that's worst because it's like moving right oh fuck sake it's like worth it what

you think he got for that hopefully loads only don't think so loads you know think oh jesus you could tell as well when he went down and that when that fucking it's so dark the blood you know it's the jaw's broken joan was just like falling out his mouth and he's like oh my god that's a fucking bad hell that's a bad old sunday monday situation he was looking at yeah yeah a battle as well. Mr. Darren Till was not in the main event, somewhat surprisingly. He was in the co-main against Aaron Chalmers of Jordy Shore fame, but really, like, he's been fighting for so long as Darren said in the post-fight, he's long removed from the

reality show scene. And actually, it was kind of surreal to see Darren and Aaron. He didn't he? Yeah, he did in the aftermath, right? Drop them there real quick in the first round. How about that? Look at this right here from Mr. Aaron Chalmers. shocking to see Darren get rocked and dropped like that.

Here's the second round, and Darren does the business rather quickly here in the second round. It's coming right now. Bang! And he does not get up. Aaron Chalmers does not get up. Nice little shot there. The right about Chalmers, you know,

he came in and did everything the right way. I remember Obama early on a lot of people were accused him of fighting cans, but it's not like he just stopped once the challenges went. He kept on testing himself, and he's been in the game now over 10 years. say. And you have to respect the guy like that who's stepping up again, dangerous fucking dudes. He fought Floyd Mayweather in an exhibition too. Like the guy is, the guy has proven himself as a fighter so many times. I think he deserves a lot of respect, especially in this

influencer era. That wasn't, he was before all of that. Yeah. You know, he was coming in and going into MMA, then boxing now, bare and knuckle. Fair play, Darren Chalmers, man. A lot of people don't give him the credit he deserves. Obviously, he lost, but to knock down Darren Till, who would have had that in their bingo card? Certainly not me then. And to be honest, I didn't have Darren ever competing in bare knuckle on my big and and honestly I don't even know if he really wants to do it and I think we've talked about this in the past but I just think that's the landscape that he's in right now we have a slow motion shot of the shots that he receives and I mean look at that right there golly that's a nice shot was beautiful though Darren nods his head like all right

respect look at that and there's the left hand clean as a whistle Darren over the moon that's on his teeth by the way there that white Would you say he's been on the sunbeds? He looked like, you know. Never seen him in shape like that before. He looked like he was getting ready for a bodybuilding competition. How tan he was, how insane a shape he was in. Maybe he found the creatine, like Islam.

Oh, natural? Creatine push-ups. Everyone, protein pattern. Peptides. Everyone says the peptides these days. Shout out to the peptides. Chicken rice, peptides, creatine. That's it.

Easy work. Here's Darren after the fight. Classic Darren Till, speaking to Cyrus Feeze, their post-fight reporter. and broadcaster as well, very, very fired up after his BKFC debut. I was fucking made for this shit. I was made for it.

I'm just a fucking, I'm a Scouts Hillbilly, and everyone in here is just a fucking maniac. So I'm built for it, but first and foremost, before to carry on. My cousin lost his life last week, passed away due to cancer,

and he fought to a hard battle. So I just want to dedicate this fight to this winter in, and I love him very much. My thoughts are with you. That being said, Darren, he lands the big, left he puts you on skates for a minute didn't it wake you up a little bit because you

knew you had to step right in second round you put him out yeah I was like oh let this look couldn't get that on me there what the fucks he do and then I thought now I've got to let me go now and I said to me coach I just want to feel it out because it's the bare knuckle obviously so obviously Adam's got more experience that first arm was this and I thought now just start to start letting me hands go so yeah I got it enough but guys look listen full respect to Adam please this guy he's coming He's fucking set up balls on him, honestly. Please respect this man.

All I've heard is reality TV. He's done that 65 years ago. He's been fighting and training with the likes of Leon Edwards. He's a proper man. That being said, listen, you're calling yourself the new face of violence. That right there may have cemented it. You've got a lot of people watching right now. A lot of people you can send a message to.

Who does Darren Till one next? Is it Perry? Is it Lorenzo Hunt? Is it one of our owners? Connor McGregor. Hell yeah. afterwards on social media he says he spoke to Mike Perry

how did the stars not align here to where Darren Till is in BKFC and Mike Perry's not? How did this happen? How did we enter a universe where Mike Perry who reinvented himself in BKFC is not available to fight Darren Till and BKFC? They have to figure this out. Mike Perry

versus Darren Till is the biggest match that they can ever put on. Go ahead. How long is Darren's deal? It's at least a couple of fights but it's just I don't know. Look, regardless of BKFC situation, if MVP did another MMA event, I know Darren said he's not interested in an MMA, but I'll be interested to see that Perry and Till.

Oh yeah, can you get into the country? Oh, yeah. Now they could do it overseas, but I just mean like... Also, you know, not for nothing. If I'm BKFC and I just signed Darren Till and the big fight is Darren Till versus Mike Perry and I'm loaning him out to do an MMA fight elsewhere, that does feel like a little bit of a...

slap in the face. I don't know if they loaned him out. They loaned him out to do the Jake Paul fight. I think his deal was actually done by the time he did the MVP MMA. No, Darren. Oh, well, yeah. If I'm giving Darren up to MVP. I don't think Feldman's down with that because he loaned out Perry and he felt like

Perry stock went down after and I'm saying now you're giving Darren Till over to do Mike Perry versus Darren Till outside of BKFC feels like a bridge too far. Did you notice Darren with the knee brace there? No. Yeah. He was fighting with the knee brace. Yeah. So I think that's part of the.

reason why he, I don't know if his knees 100% to where he can do MMA anymore. So I think he would rather that. They just have to stay right away. These are two guys who are obviously, he said he's built for this. We know Mike Perry is built for it. These are two guys who are down to fight in bare knuckle. I think it has to take place in bare knuckle. That's where I want to see it.

100%. It would be gigantic for them. Massive. Be so big. I'd like to be boxing match, whatever. No. BKFC. Make it bare knuckle.

Hell yeah. Over boxing? For sure. Honestly, over anything. I don't need to see it in MMA. Yeah, just look at the stakes. How much higher the stakes are when it's bare knuckle? Right. I mean, look at Connor Tierney, whatever his name was, with the mouth. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't get injuries like that when you put the gloves on. I was told a pretty packed crowd over there over 7,000 people in attendance. So clearly, Darren, a draw in that neck of the woods. Okay, so then we moved on to RAF in Dallas. Main event featured Gable Stephson, making his RIAF debut, and what a run for him now coming up, making the debut in RIF, and then, of course,

UFC debut in a little over a month on the Connor McGregor card. He tech-falled Alexander Romanov in the second round, so a great debut for him. He's always been a natural for R-AF. Co-main event featured one Kobe Covington,

defeating Chris Wydman, and that was a pretty damn big moment for him. Although some people thought that he didn't look great. He won via decision, by the way. earlier in the night, Kyle Snyder won on the card. All right, fine. Marab Dwalishvili beat Frankie Edgar via Techfall as well. And so they continue to use these names and some of them quite often.

And it's paying off. They're on a roll of these guys over at REF. Here's Marab celebrating the win over Frankie Edgar, someone that he thinks so very highly of. Look at Marab here. Go, look at this. Dan, dun, da, da, done. There's some fun music. Opa, whoop.

Opa, opa. And now it comes to dancing. Now it comes, yeah. Marab loving life over there. I don't think Frankie feels that respect when he's looking up at that. You don't think he likes that. He walks over to the band. It's not great.

No, it is great. I very much enjoy it. But I wonder if Frankie's looking at that and saying, this guy really respects me, you know? Frankie looks good out there. I mean, he's getting up there in age, obviously, but he looked good in the singlet. So let's see, let's see. What about Armin? Armine, once again, picking up the big one.

this time over Mugsy. You guys familiar with Mugsy? He wanted to be a tech fall on the first. Armine coming out with the cowboy hat. A little Dallas flare there. Yeah, hell yeah. Look at this right here. There's a little bit of a moment

he gets pushed and then a little headboy. Yeah. You're going to push me? He's just, fucking out of him. He just. Look how fired up he is. Look how fired up he is.

You can set Armin off. Too quickly. Look at this is. Break this down for you. Can you do play-by-play here, Forrest, PT? Spinning, spinning, spinning. Mootzee is entangled. Yeah.

What is this? Sharp-Treater? I need to learn the rules, man, because he was scoring points every time he rolled. That's because every time his shoulders hits the ground, is it? I don't have a clue, man. Point. I read, don't data.

That was a complete guess. They've got something with Armin. I'm learning. Afterwards, Armin gets on the microphone and says this. Many fellow competitors. Believers believe you are the biggest star on the stage tonight. And for that reason, they challenge you. Do you have anybody you're keeping your eye on tonight?

Yeah, we got tonight, Colby Covington. I hope he's going to win and I'm going to whoop his ass. Because number one, M.MA wrestle is me. And I'm going to show everybody who is the best of my wrestler on this match. Okay. When Kobe went up against Chris, he wins the match. He then gets interviewed by Mr. Chal Sunnan, and this is what he announces, not says or asks for, he announces it. Take a listen.

Armand, you're a spoiled little brat. You've been talking to talk. Let's see if you can walk to walk. Gas up your daddy's jet. Bring that little jet about Nina John Hughes. He's time. God bless everybody. Have a good night.

Well, this perspective, I suppose, we don't have to guess what Armin thinks. Why don't we just ask him? Kobe today it looks so bad please when we're going to wrestle be ready because I don't want to have easy money I want to be legit wrestle with you

all right our CEO and matchmaker are here is this on what is the date for this you just said it what did you say July 18 Milwaukee Wisconsin July 18 that's that's box office right there man R a F again like I did not

expect any of this when they launched in August And there's the poster. July 18th in Milwaukee. Armand's a Rukin. And by the way, just remind you, Armin has a match on June 13th against Tony Ferguson, which is interesting in its own right, right? I mean...

Yeah, it is interesting. That's a fun one. At this point, what, Armand's 5 in O in Raff? He's killing it. What do you think he's making? He's got to be making six figures, right? He's got to be making six figures. He's just racking it up.

For sure, making six figures. There's no question about it. He's just racking it up. Also, respect to Raff for having that. match already booked for Milwaukee and then Colby having the wherewithal, you know, to essentially announce it during his post-fight interview. Unbelievable. That to me, that match right there, that's what I was saying like, okay, he's going up against this guy, Mugsy, Georgia Poulis thing worked out, Faber. That's box office. Like, I don't know what's going to

happen there. Colby, bigger than him, they've got the backstory, ATT. I guess Armin's probably the favorite. He's younger. He's more active. But that's a great. great match. I'll be watching that. July 18th, Milwaukee. Just re-uped Fox Nation for a year. You did? And they did. Rifted. Yes. So good timing. Who? Good timing. Afterwards, we saw some great sportsmanship from both Armin and Mugsy. In fact, Armin invited Mugsy onto his private jet, and here they are flying home together. You got to love that, right? That's class. I'm into Rick will you watch that

that one you'll watch I've been watching now oh they forced me they got you they've got me well he downloaded Fox Nation

so now he's fully in they've look Raff they're smashing it they're absolutely killing it it's a fun little escape from the regular

I had no I was going to say if he hasn't been watching Hamza at Dillon Danis had to get it no I'm I've already been in but when it first started I just didn't think

that there was this type of appetite for amateur wrestling. Yeah. But smartly, they kind of leaned into the UFC characters. I thought you had to go one way or the other. Are you going toward UFC type fighters or are you going toward amateur wrestling? It seems like they're leaning further into the, you know, borrowing UFC talent, names that you know, and highlighting them and headlining the shows with them. So, yeah, like, they've been killing it. Do you think the UFC is, my theory has always been the UFC is, is allowing these guys to,

do this because of the class action lawsuits and so they can say, hey, we're not a monopoly. There's that and five years ago they weren't allowing this. There's that, definitely. And wasn't the revelation that there are investors in the beer and then the beer is the sponsor for the. WWE? Yeah. Real American beer. Yeah.

That feels like a lot. I just think we know with Ralph. I, I don't, they're not, they're not letting Armin Teruqi and wrestle because they're investors. Because WWE invests in the beer. But here's, here's what I'm wondering. what is the limit? What is the highest level guy that they will let do this, right? Would they let John Jones do it?

How can you say no to John and yes to Armin? I'm wondering. Well, Hamza, like there's not that big of a drop-off. No, Hamza's the highest level we got, right? He's the biggest one so far. Armand's pretty damn close at this point. Yeah, no, Hamzat's bigger than Armin, and Hamzat's here, right? Yeah, but I'm saying...

Is there an Elia? Is there Alex Pereira? Is there a John Jones? Are they... Those guys are not that much bigger than Humzad in terms of... Exactly. They are bigger, though. And they are...

Anomily. That's all I'm wondering. Can John Jones get a rap fight right now if you wanted it? I think yes. They can't even play flag football. How's he going to rest? I think yes, by the way. I think yes.

I mean, that would be fascinating. That would be extremely fascinating. Because now it's like he's probably not even going to be doing anything with the UFC at this point unless something changes. Do you feel like they pull the plug at some point? They say no moss. Okay, this is what I'm wondering. No more guys.

On Jones? No, no, no. On allowing the UFC fighters to compete. Raff will lose a lot of juice if that happened. Oh, my God, yeah. I think it's... I don't think they can't. I think it's good for them at the moment.

But once it starts creeping into the territory of some of these other names that I'm suggesting, I wonder if they... Like, I was surprised they let Gable do it a month before his debut. Same? What if he twists an ankle, hurts his knee? I'm surprised they're letting Hamzaud do it, knowing how infrequently Hamzot actually fights for the UFC. He's going to have as many rap fights as UFC fights. This has been a godsend. I mean,

Harmon has like six this year. Yeah. This has been a godsend for these guys. Like, the fact that they're able to earn this money in between fighting, it's unbelievable. And really, like, how much are they actually training for these matches, you know? They don't have to, they don't have to gain. Colby doesn't have to game plan to go up against Chris Wyman.

He'll train. He'll prepare, but it's nothing like training for an MNAA. Also, like, I understand that they want to win. Of course, Armant's Rukkah wants a win out there, but he's not going to be devastated if he loses one of these matches. What's the realistic rap fight you want right now? Because I've got one.

Is it Jones D.C.? That would be fun. I don't think that John Jones gets to do it. But hell yeah, that's definitely up there. The biggest dream match? Yeah, I got one. Islam via U.S.

And I think it's possible. Islam via Chabibh? Okay, do you let Islam do it, though? See, this is where I'm like, I don't know that the UFC's gung-ho about letting it. You told me the dream match of your ass for Rick, and there you're saying, would we let them do. I like that, I think it could be made right now.

Thanks, I think it could be made tomorrow. I think it could be made tomorrow. You want to see that. I guess because they're not punching each other. It's not... Islam versus Habib, do I want to see that? Is that what you're right? As number one.

I would love to see. Like, I'd rather see Islam versus Armour. Okay, let me just draw the one... For Habib to compete. We've entered unrealistic territory. Let me start out the one that I was speaking and react to it. All right, go ahead.

Okay, go ahead. Brock Lesnar, Kane, Velasquez. Wow. Kane, though. Yeah. Well, what's a better... D.C. That's good.

I like Kane better. Brock First, D. D.C. We already saw Brock versus Kane and... That's MMA! And pro wrestling. All right, that one doesn't...

I'd be down for Brock. Exactly count. I'm not... I just... I didn't mean like... We're thinking three matches. I want to see guys who haven't competed against each other.

What? I'd at least see Josh Barnett in there, a bit of catches, catch, can. So you don't... John and D.C. is out for you because you've seen them compete against each other? Different. Oh, okay.

We're comparing... Got it. That's it. D.C., Josh Barnett. Oh, it was a shit out of it. Josh Burnett, saw that one already. You guys don't give a shit about Brock?

Damn. I'm in for Brock. Rock versus... How much money do you think they have, Rick? Realistic you said. Rock versus Kane. Realistic you said. Brother, you just said Habib, who turned down multiple M's... The love of the game.

The love of the game. I think my number one is PSP Habib. Fuck, that's a great one. PSP Habib would be sick. Can Habib do it? Would the UFC let Habib do it? The problem is, how can you say no to him and say yes to the other guys? Other than if you say, hey, we pay you a lot of money, so shut the tip of up.

Yes, I mean, that would be how? Since May of 2025, Armist Rukian has 10 wrestling or grappling men. No, no, this is not my fault. It's incredible. Honestly, if you go back, yeah, like, since the Charlesville is verified, that's crazy. Yo, you know what would be a sick one? Gable versus Brock. Okay, but that's like, you know, would they do that?

Because they're boys. I mean, you guys were saying? I mean, everyone else's realistic for you, are they? Jesus Christ, huh? Why don't know how's a fucking funerick? More interesting to me than Islam versus Habib. What? Yeah.

Gable versus Brock. I don't worry. In his late 40s? Yeah, Gable's a current Olympic. Because I feel like Gable will, you know, and Brock will try to beat him up and you'll probably be, you know, on the peptides. I don't, I feel like Islam has so much respect, so much respect for Habib that he won't

try to beat him. Ah, no, no. In the wrestling room? You think so? They're not killing each other. They're just wrestling. Why are you guys only want teammates to, to, you? battle each other. I want like rivals.

I don't want like friends. I don't want this to be a sparring session. I don't want this to be patty cake. I want wrestling. They're going to try and win. DC Brock. DC Brock. DC Brock's great. I'll take DC Brock. Hell yeah. I like the return of Brock Lesnar. But I like Brock versus Kane better.

I just feel like Kane would be like the next thing that Kane does would be massive. I mean it's a no-brainer with Brock you know the beer connection, WW. Well, that's the thing, by the way. You bring that up. No WWU guys have done this yet. Hmm. Wait.

Was there not one? Maybe I made that up. There was talk of Julius Creed. There was talking to. None of them have done it. That's right. That's right. Don't want Bo Niko could wrestle?

Ooh, Bo versus Hamsuk. Oh, Bo Hamsuk. Oh, Bo Hams. Yes. But no, they don't like to do. Chad said they don't like to do ones that could actually happen within the UFC. Bo versus Colby? Oh, for sure.

But, I mean, Colby downplays Bo every time he's mentioned. This is an unbelievable. Like, this is a gift for Colby at this stage of his career. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? This is a, this is a, what is this? What is this? Breaking news here has nothing to do with fighting, but Shaheen just put this in.

Miles Garrett traded to the L.A. Rams. Oh, shit. Jared Verse and a 2027 pick. PT, what do you think of that? Miles Garrett traded to the L.A. Rams. I'm surprised, you know. The Brown seemed to think he was a franchise guy, didn't they? So I'm kind of surprised that he's been a loud move.

thought that's been a reocoran story every preseason since I've been watching it. If he's on the leave or not, and he never did. Didn't he just sign a big contract? Yeah. He demanded a trade last off season, then immediately signed a contract extension, and now he's out. He set the sack record last year, right? Yeah, but it was Fugazi. It was Fugazi.

Man, they kind of let him. And what about, what about O'Dell Beckham's back on the Giants? Oh, fuck. What's happening here? NYC's on fire. Yeah. OBJ's back. Yo.

Where is he saying he's gone to the Jets? Jordan Jets? No, Giants! Oh. Where he used to put... Didn't he make that catch

with the Giants back in the day? The one-handed, yeah? He's he with the ball knowledge. The most played NFL clip of all. Nah, come on. Yeah, wait, if someone mentions like a famous soccer play,

you're not saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what's funny, actually? Today I get an email from a publishing company saying that I've been nominated for an award from my autobiography. In fact, it was Pete Carroll's of the

You're shitting me for real man every time any fucking Pete Carroll like things I get tweets every time they play going oh you're gonna fucking run the ball again asshole I guess so you're like John Jones the John Jones on Twitter

Wow But you got an email for this you said yeah yeah I'll tell you now What's your email? Oh I guess we can't say it on me Yeah maybe maybe I get that one to yourself Would that be like a real

and I don't even know I guess, does he go by Pete or Peter? Pete, right? Yeah, Pete Carroll. Apparently, Pete's he as well. Apparently, I'm not joking. People called serious? Yeah, yeah.

It seems like a very Irish thing. Pizzi. I'm Googling Pizzie Carroll and if it's a... Hi, Pete. My name is Mark and I organize an independent 1,100 reader group here in Melbourne called the Booker Nobel and Miles Franklin Prize's Book Club. Hmm. The foundation is...

It's really a award-winning fiction. our readers are deeply dedicated to exploring high-calibre performance sociology, athletic organizational frameworks, and competitive cultural psychology, non-fiction studies that offer exceptional analytic resonance, blah, blah, blah. I'm reaching out to you because our readers were completely captivated by your thoughtful and structural frameworks. In your book, win forever, live work, and play like a champion.

Wow. Are you accepting the award? I didn't write back because it's, you know. Okay. Sorry, Mike. Well, congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you.

the coach Peter Carroll, aka PT Carroll. In fact, he's my uncle. He is my uncle. As we all expected, I do have to say, PT, our next guest has told me that he's a big fan of yours as well. Let's bring him in real quickly if we can. We have a lot to talk to Mr. Action Bronson about, but is it not true, Mr. Bronson, that you have said that you're a big fan of Petey and his 30 million line? Well, you fucking stole my thunder.

I was holding my head that way to hit you with it when I turned. Can we just pretend that? God damn it. Do it again. Can we do it again? No, no. 30 million for the kitchen scrap. 30 million for the kitchen scrap.

But you fucking played me. And you didn't have me. I'm just over here. You asked me to come on. Look at my hand is shaking. I had too much caffeine. What do you mean? I didn't have you.

You asked me to come on and then you said stay home. No, I didn't say. You know where I am. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't want to bother you.

You know, I'm perpetually worried about how people feel, so I didn't want to inconvenience you. So I wanted you from the Casa. Don't worry, I'm good. How are you feeling? I'm good. Action. You didn't ask me.

I asked you. Well, getting into it, that was impromptu right there. Petey was there. I remember action. I love PC. I love everybody on this channel. Thank you. What cable channel is this?

What up, Peachy? Yeah. That was it going on. action, big fan. Thanks for making a real way. He actually is. You stand beside him, brings up this show so much, you know what I mean? He needs that. He needs someone there to do that. Prop them up a bit, you know what I mean? So thank you. We got to keep the real, the people who have their heart in it alive. You have your hearts in it. Hell yeah. Action, part of the reason why I needed you on here today, and you look fantastic, by the way. Thank you for you. Thank you, brother.

I have a perpetual stomach eight, 24-7, so I'm nervous. I need to talk to. IBS. No, I'm nervous about Wednesday. I'm nervous about what's about to transpire. I needed to talk. It's going to be magnificent. You got to understand this. I'm sitting here with fucking Nick's Hater number one. This is going to be a extravagance. Who's Nick's Hader number one?

I'm not even going to say his name. He doesn't he's not getting a shout out. Yeah, don't do that. I thought you were talking about Cleveland Rick back there. No, we're past that already. We're not even going to speak about that. That was so crazy. That's forgotten. Did you imagine a guy who calls himself New York, Rick, rooting a

Gaines the Knicks and Rudy for Cleveland. It's truly a, it's, it's quite confusing. Yeah, disgusting, there I see. But I understand. I just don't understand the Cleveland connection. That's fucking weird. Oh, yeah, you know what it is. He's a big Sean Kemp fan.

This is like me saying I'm a big Mets fan because I like, Sean Kemp fan. Willie Mays. Yeah, can you believe this guy? That still doesn't make big sense to me. Yeah, because he had a cup of coffee with the cat. Why, you should have been a supersonic fan. Rick, do you want to defend yourself?

Those were the glory days for you? No, it was. I didn't have a team. Yeah. Okay. My mom went to Phylene's basement. You can appreciate Phyline's basement. I mean, come on.

Went to Fylin's basement. Had the cut tag because it was like an irregular. Sean Kemp, Jersey. And that was my team. As soon as I got that jersey, I was like, Sean Kemp is my guy. This is whatever team he's playing for is my team from then on. It was in the 98, 99 playing for the Cavs.

Caves from that point on. Sean Kemp, Cavs, forever. Done. never wavered i accept that story i do because once you once you mention philean's basement i know it was true yeah for sure no i don't doubt it i just think it's a little weird it's like saying i'm a

magic fan because i like patrick ewing all kinds of people come up with all kinds of shit i could tell that was from the heart though yeah then it was from heart he he is he is really a cast fan yeah we got we got fans that have been like fucking brooklyn nets and jersey net's fans that flipped over and became all kind of weird there's all flip floppies over here how do you feel about gatekeeping

like people say no no no no I don't even know what that means like you weren't watching Lou Amundsen you can't you weren't watching Ron Baker you can't join the bandwagon now do you feel like strongly about I just say let everyone have fun everyone can have fun but how I feel in my heart

I'm selfishly happy this is about me me me now I saw you can't make it about it's about us all the long suffering fans, you know? Like, you got to understand. There's people that fucking listen to that shit

on the transistor radio on the bus every day, you know. They're not dug in. They're not dug into Mike and the dog. They're not dug into those guys, you know. They're not listening to WFAN on AM. 660. What's your level of confidence action?

I feel great. I feel phenomenal. We have a better team. We have a better team. We have a better bench. We have a better, they have a superstar. This is what we want. We want theater in the garden.

What about Mitch? I mean, it's kind of crazy. I'm not, you know, who the hell knows? I've done dumb shit too, but fuck, man. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't seem like the type of guy that's just going around punching walls, you know, not at this age.

No. I mean, hopefully that doesn't come into play. What will it mean? But the pinky, I'm not going to say the pinky. doesn't do anything, you know, two in the pink, one of the stink, and the pink, the pink means the pinky. Yeah, just do what Ronnie Lott did. Remember when he cut it off?

You cut it off. Mine's broken right now. It's been broken since high school. It got stuck in someone's face mask. Yes, I was committing a face mask, but still. You never fixed it or never healed? Not, never healed properly. It became like a little fucking weird thing.

Wow. It doesn't feel good. but it doesn't prevent me from playing defense well. You're a lockdown, right? You're like McHill Bridges-S. Am I locked down? I'm a tricky guy. Yeah, yeah.

Your box out must be... Shifty. I'm shifty. But like when you box someone out, it must be intense. Like, the ass goes way out. I mean, listen, it's not... What it's about is it's about your quad. You're quad and your base.

And then you use your hip at no point. Do you use ass? Okay, okay, interesting. You don't box out like bum out like that? No, no, that's too crazy. I like to keep a solid base. Because I like to do a spinneroo. I like to hit you with a little slide elbow

and then spin on you. For real, yeah, no. And then I'll jump high enough to dunk, but I'll just, whoop, laid in, oh, so gently, like this is NBA gym. I have referred to you as the people's mayor of New York. Like when I'm lucky enough to be in your presence when we get to go to the games

and you know how much it means to me when you do that and perpetually like forever, perennially thankful. And so I would love to ask you born and bred New Yorker what it would mean. I can't even put it into words anymore.

I don't know what my body's going to do. What would it mean if you get to witness this? I mean, listen, I'm going to be in shock. I don't know what's going to happen. I'll be in shock for a little bit, But then I'll come to and I'll celebrate one way or another, I'll be in a suit, a really nice suit. I'm wearing a suit all finals.

You're going to go to the games wearing a suit? Actually, not a suit, a tuxedo. Why? Vera Wang, because I'm just, I'm grown and sexy. Pleaded shirt with the bib, tuxedo. shirt, purple label. Shorts? No,

the, tight. Oh, no, the, thick Jason Statham style, no short which is most of the other time.

Yeah. There's no reason to not wear, listen, if I'm dressing, I'm dressing. So when I see you at the games,

court side, you're going to be wearing a tux? One million, you might not even recognize me. You'd be like, damn,

Sean Connery's back. Jason Statham's in the building. That's going to be a sight. The rock is here. I might even throw a rock shirt on the straight big Versace with the big pants and the stupid sharp toe. I don't even know how he put his foot in that toe. I've said this is the best way that I can describe it. A lifetime of pain erased and a lifetime of angst relieved if they win.

Well, yeah, I'm going to retire the jersey that I've been wearing for 25 years. I'm going to try and get a signed by everyone and I'm going to post it up. The U.S. And then I'm going to put a New Jersey on. Yeah, I'm going to take the Ewing off. Oh, my God. That's a big deal. I know.

It's huge. It's huge. Hang it up. I got. I'm going to hang it in the rafters. I'm going to commemorate it with a dish as well. I'm going to make a plate for $39.99 that you could possibly purchase. Oh, my God.

No, no. There'll be a commemorative plate next to it for me. I like commemorative plates. The days of Sports Center. I mean, no, Sports Illustrated. Oh, yeah. selling you the plate late night He knows

You got to sit with the captain Who was he? Patrick Oh man, did I? Bro The story of that one was fire Tell me, tell me You know, like I've loved Pat forever

I've seen him many times I've seen him in the bathroom I've seen him at the concession stand I've seen them back there Well, you know, just hello, what's up, how you doing? So we're sitting there. They sit us corners right there. Boom.

Someone moved over so I could sit next to him. I was sitting to the right of him. So we were split by the alley where everyone runs through. And I didn't look over there one time. I just acted like I didn't see him because I was so scared inside. And then I just feel a big hand hit my leg a couple times. Like, yo, he goes, my daughter's just. a big fan of yours, man. Can we take a picture together? I was like, yes, we may. So then I went

over there and I just, I was snuggled under his bosom and it was phenomenal. Have you noticed that I spoke in there? And then we honestly, a lot of times we, you know, we would high five during, he'd low five and I would jump to hit his hand during the game. And yeah, it was, it was beautiful. There was harmony there. It was like, man, this is really crazy. And it was all because of his daughter. Randy. A lovely woman. Yes, she worked for the NBA.

That's like fantasy camp stuff. Getting to watch a nick game, courtside with Patrick. It was nuts. It was nuts. It's really crazy. You know, like, a lot of the times, you can't take these things for granted.

I've always, I've been in situations where I felt like I was on Cloud 9 forever. You know shit ends. So I really, really, you know this. I take full advantage and I'm like, yo, thank you. I just give thanks.

Have you noticed as he's gotten older, the Jamaican accent has really come out. That's what happens. That's actually what happens. He's been fucking around holding it back for you guys. This is him. Oh, man. Speaking of those moments, did you have one of those moments? I saw you with Ryan Seacrest on the set of Wheel of Fortune when you were announcing the new album, which is incredible.

We're going to talk about it in a moment, but the dolphin was there. It was unbelievable. Oh, yeah. You were writing the street on that. I was. I actually really hit it off with Vanna. Come on. For real.

She came in the backstage area, said, what's up? We were all in shock. And then, you know, we had a, you know, I did, I was a contestant on the actual game show in which I, you know, played with unbelievable ability. And then we hit it off so much. My man, Brandon had the idea. idea. It was like, yo, why don't we, why don't we see if we could get them to do, you know. And this is a young boy. He hasn't been watching this game this whole life, but he knew that this was something that was so, it was right there, it was right, it was on the cusp.

And we just asked, if you don't ask, you don't, you never receive. And I like to receive a lot. It's so good. This is so, wait, this is Brandon, Brandon Bear, the legend? Yeah, no, man, shit. The legend. He's getting big. I love Brandon. Brandon's my guy. Yeah, he's an idea. He's like, he's like two Tesla coils under there. Wow. How did you end up here, though? How did you get this?

They just fell in love with me. I fucking told you I dominated. No, no, the original, the domination. How did you get on the show? I just asked. I always wanted to do a different type of rollout for the album. I've done all the fucking hip-hop shit, all the different types of shows.

How many different shows can you go on telling someone I wanted to do something for me, for grandmama, for Nona. Oh, my God. Amazing. Well, for my family, 7.7.30, you know? For real. What's that 7.730? Jeopardy and Will Fortion. Oh, 7.30.

That's not. And then if you were in the city, Channel 55 had Jeopardy earlier. Oh, for real? Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah, it had the yesterday's programs on. Did you tell your fan, did you call them from there? Yo, look, I made it. Nah, it's going to air June 12th. We're going to have a watch party.

Wow. Yeah. Bro, you're going to watch the Knicks win the championship and you're going to be on Wheel of Fortune in the span of a few days. Can you believe that? I say, I'm better at Jeopardy, and that's true. And I'd like to be on it.

And I'd like to also be on Family Feud. And I think that these dreams will come true. You can do the whole circuit. The whole afternoon or early... You know this already. I told you, Dynasty. I want to be on prices right. I do fucking whatever they got over there.

Let's see what they got. See, pitch me something new. You just... You don't miss. It sounds like I'm glazing. But Planet Frog was incredible. Thank you. As you know, my favorite line

from the days of earthquake and typhoon. My favorite food is Lach Mahjoon. Come on. You only get that. type of content over here. The best. The freaking best. You said it was one of the most... You could trust me with your mind. I always say this. You could trust me with your mind. I won't steer you wrong. This is Encyclopedia Britannica. A few MMA references to. You always mention Abdulmanab. I don't always mention him. This is the first time. And I'd say that that's not

very easy to mention in a hip-hop song. I thought you mentioned them on the last album, too. No. I have not. Maybe we've just talked about it. privately, so I've heard you say it same. Yeah, I told you. I told you that that was going to happen, and it happened. It did happen. It did happen. I got another few crazy ones that I've done recently.

Which ones? You'll hear it soon. I'm just saying there's been some references. This is for the heads. There's deep references. You're not getting baseline references. Why did you say Planet Frog was your most important album to date? because that's how I feel.

But why? The way it makes me feel, the way that I felt doing it, the tumultuous situations, to putting yourself through so much pressure and anxiety to figure things out. It's like a hard math program for whatever. What's the fucking word I'm looking for?

I got a text that I didn't want to see. Oh, did something bother me off? No. I just didn't want to see it. Okay, okay, okay. What was it? Where's the thing? Problem.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I figured out a problem. I made a musical, a musical situation out of nothing. I like to make things happen from nothing, from zero, from the beginning. So you're proud of it? Hell yeah. It's incredible.

It's incredible. The new balance stuff is incredible. I'm a proud boy. I'm a proud man. I don't wait. I'm not a proud. I don't know that that's not. not a good thing, right?

Oh, no, proud boy. Get that shit out of me? I don't know what that means. I just, I'm not that. I'm just happy. No, I get it. I get it. What about when you see a mural

painted of you in Bushwick? I haven't seen it. Well, you've seen, look at this, bro. I look bloated on that one. I don't know. I'm a little bit more shredded up. I don't think they got my contour correct.

Come on. Do you know who made this? I don't know who did that. That doesn't look like my contour is correct. But you have to admit, Like, that is the highest honor, no? In Brooklyn? I like that.

I do. I appreciate that, but I've had many murals painted of me. In Brooklyn? In the five boroughs? All around the world. Wow, okay. Sorry, I thought that was a big deal. My bad.

I thought that was a big, frigate deal. That's the famous Brunson shot. Him on the ground? Yeah, I didn't even know that was that was that was. I wasn't wearing glasses during that. My eyesight was still there, and I also had a beverage. in my hand. You did, you did. You had the cranberry club soda. That's right. That's the go-to. And then you know, what's the other one? What's the other one I taught you about?

Afogato. Nobody gets that. Don't tell him. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, there's the one dude in the back who's the, the MMA fan. Or is a girl? It's a girl. Oh, yeah, it's the English woman. Yeah, she likes Tom Asper. She loves Alex Ferreira. No, she don't like Asperna. She likes Ferreira. Oh, for real? My bad. Maybe I just asked her about basketball because she's English. Yeah, she wasn't, she's like, uh, whatever.

Okay, so she unsold it. She no sold him. What do you think about the White House card? I'm happy about it. I'm happy about everything. I missed this last week. I actually didn't watch anything, which is crazy. I just watched the recap.

Song you dong. Song your dong with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, I mean, subbing figgy is kind of crazy to get that one, but. You know, everyone, every rose has its thorn. Yes, yes. What about Ilya with the roses? You like that? Well, he's like a fucking matador.

Yeah, he brought out the chton. You remember when Tito Santana became Matador? Hell yeah. This is it, but he brought out the white one for the White House. I don't love that. Why? I don't know with the white rose. I don't know.

It's just like, it's too gentle. She came out with the black rose It's rare It only grows in one place You pulling up? You go into the White House card? No I'll be away

I'll be away But you'll be watching That's too much That's too much If they would have asked me specifically I would have had to oblige But I wasn't asked specifically To be there in attendance

I was not No But you'll be watching I will I will I love this stuff What about Alex? Alex said heavyweight, your boy. He's looking thick, huh?

He's a massive man. He's looking thick. He's a massive man. He is. When I was in high school, they would always talk about the players who had that high ass. Okay. It's like a runner, Bo Jackson. Every athlete that's elite has like the high ass,

like a good fucking deer you know like a horse like a stallion it sits way up on the torso it helps for better athleticism

okay and you see that from him you see that from him yes because half of his body is like more than half of his body is his legs it's true it's true he has a fucking long ass leg and goes all the way into torso

smaller but that's just that's good for pole vaulting. That's also good for doing the track shit, like, you know, all track and field. You always look at that. Any type of running back, you want that core middle stability where you could break down,

stop and go fast. Ladanian Tomlinson, Barry Sanders. How's your training going? Even my training's, good. Like, the fighting wrestling. It's really good.

Well, I just, you know, it's for fun. Don't get me started. No. I'm old. They don't have enough money at Neatstitch. Oh my God.

Could you imagine? What are you saying? I would love to see you in like a grappling, something. 170. I'll take a... All right, with who? I don't know.

I don't know. Rock Leszner. Five. It would have to be someone that feels your fancy. Gable Stevenson? Yeah. Stevenson? Fine.

Fine. Like, you're such a legend. Whoever, no, I'll do it. It'll be a good time. I've seen you with Plinyo. You versus Plinyo would be an interesting one. Same sort of body types. I would never.

That's my sense. That's your boy. Yeah, that's right. That's right. It's my guy. Kidding me? I don't even like to swallow with him. Because you love him so much.

Well, no, he's fucking, you know. He also, he hit me with a good shot in my stomach and I fell down and made me throw up almost. I wasn't ready. I wasn't looking. I know you don't like to big yourself up, but what about this generational run? Minimade commercial? Come on. I don't know if I would throw that into a generational run, but I appreciate that one.

Yeah, it's a good. It actually did come out real nice. I loved it. When I read the script for it, I wasn't really like, I wasn't entertained or enthused, but we made it look nice. You see, they had the Schwartma at my request, of course. They had it made it a little ethnic. Yes, I loved it. I thought this was great.

This is as blue chip as it gets. Well, then I'm happy that you like it. I'm glad that that's how it's been received. We popped hard for that. That makes me fucking happy. Thank you, guys. I popped even harder for you at Katz's Deli. That was massive.

a big deal. Come on, man. It was just a nice venue. It was a nice venue. You know, like I said, I wanted this just to be this, I'm taking you to another place. I'm taking you to another land of in between and underneath. Nah, this is generation. Back to Browns right there, $3.95.

That's expensive. These motherfuckers are gouging. I know. It used to be like five cents, right? Back in the day. Used to be a nickel. That's right. That's right.

Do you have custom Oakley's now, too? We'll be announcing that soon. Okay, wow. What do you have somebody fucking talking to you, whispering little nothings in your ear while you speak to me? Because you're laughing when I didn't say shit. I was looking. I swear on my life, there's nothing going on here.

I'm literally just staring at you, it brings me so much joy. Action, I don't think you realize how much I needed this. I was telling them in the back before the show. I'm going to be... Did you have on already? You have any... Who depressed you, anyone?

No, I'm just so nervous. man. I'm so nervous. Oh, don't worry. This is it. We fuck. We're here right now. We have to, we have to enjoy this now. We do. How do I get to enjoy it and not be so nervous and anxious about it? That's my problem. I mean, you know, you still go on through life.

Do as you do. And they will play the game on Wednesday, and we will watch it. What's your prediction? What are you feeling? You know, am I silly? I said a sweep earlier for them for the last series. I'm sure Look

I get home Game 4, I'm there God You understand? In the tux I'm 100%. If we need 6 One way or another

I'll make my way Into that building Hell yeah But I'm talking about 4 here I'm talking about Showing them Showing them Who their daddy is

Like fucking Pedro The Yankees are my daddy Oh my God Would you go out in the streets if they went? I'm in the streets every day. What do you mean go out in the streets? The streets need to go away from me. I mean, those kids on 7th Avenue, all that craziness.

Yeah, I'll fucking go out there. I'll dunk on somebody immediately. I'm going to be wearing Farragamo shoes. You understand? I'm dunking on someone in Italian shoes. Oh, my God. one piece of Italian leather wrapped around my foot

no scene I'm in vogue yeah no stylist I'm the style man I style woman your style is impetuous it's impregnable

yeah stouts to Mike yeah one and only of course always have to shout him out For real. Brownsville's finest. And speaking of which, you saw Shushu Karrington, another Brownsville legend.

Yeah, I saw him at the Garden, for sure. Yeah. And I feel my man, like I said, my man, Tom Gould did a piece on him when he was just a young man. Before all the glitz and glamour when he was just, when he was in the, when he was in theville. And look now. It's pretty crazy. I knew about Shushu forever. It's just beautiful to see him get his thing done right here at home.

You still haven't been to a boxing match, though. No, but I feel like, you know, like I feel like I've, I feel like I've lived many lives of bare knuckle. Sure. Back when they held their hands like the guy in the fucking fighting Irish. Like this. Yeah, exactly. You and Bear Knuckle be sick. Me, Bear Knuckle, yeah, whatever.

Like Bam Bam. You have a tour coming up? Like that movie, The Gladiator, Brian Dennyhy. Oh, yeah. Just keep hitting the top of the head. Do you have a tour coming up? not really it's a couple shows that are going to be fucking sick

not a full tour there we go it does say chore but it's not it's just a couple dates that are going to be fucking sick it's a real hodgepodge New York London Newcastle

Netherlands Poland New York New York yeah I want to go to Poland so bad it's going to be a good one I'm going to try and get with Marius you're going to be

you're going to be in Newcastle on July 4th What does that mean? I mean, USA's 250th birthday. There's some sort of game? No, it's the birthday of America. I mean, well, I'll be doing what America loves to do, and that is, you know, trying to gain prosperity. That's true, that's true.

You got to rebrand. If the Knicks win, like, that's, it's the championship tour. It is. No, it's always that. I can't, I can't, I can't do that. We have to let them have their glory. Sure, sure. I just mean the vibes are going to be incredible, you know?

They're already incredible. Right now, the city, everywhere I go, people are on a high. Yeah. Everyone's wearing the Knicks gear. Everyone's going nuts. The city's on fire right now. Well, this has been a gift. I wish you would have come in studio.

It would have been great to see you, but I know you're busy. Yeah, next time, next time. Yeah, yeah. Next time when you invite me. That's so crazy. That's why I thought I was, fuck you, I told them, yo, chill, I'm going to go over here. And you're like, oh, no, no, no, Zoom. No, that's not true.

That's not a word? That's not true. You know, this is no longer an in-person. I took it personal. Bro, serious? I hope you're not serious because I'm going to freaking lament this for the next 24 hours. No more lamenting. I don't want you lamenting over any more things.

Okay, okay. Cut it out. I love you. I love you. I appreciate you. We're going to do this, right? We're going to do this and we're going to celebrate. There's no other, listen, there's no other option.

There's no other option here. Once they see me in a tuxedo, they'll have no other. option. It's like when they put fucking witch's name on the stand, they were going to take the stand against the godfather. And then the brother came in. And he saw the brother.

All he had to do was see the brother. Fucking shame. The shame that fell over the man, they'll feel shame. And then they'll have to perform. Fuck yeah. Thank you, action. Love you. Appreciate you. Go next.

Take care, guys. Let's go. Take care. Say bye to all the fellas. would you fucking leave them off? No, they're there, they're doing their thing back there. Guys, do you want to say by to action? You're a legend. Thank you, action.

Bye, Eric. Go next. Connor, peace. Take care, fellas. Yeah, peace out. There he is. The incomparable action brought some Renaissance man. Author, chef, rapper.

Yo, I popped big back here for the 7-730 fan. I've been on a Jeopardy wheel kick lately. That's right. You could have gone to him. He's going to be on the show he just announced. Yeah, the celebrity wheel of fortune. I can't wait for that. June 13.

I think he said. I will be seated watching. Unbelievable. What a guy. That's Action Bronson, everyone. Okay. That was amazing, and we appreciate him very much, and he's always welcome in studio. All right, I teased earlier that Ben Ascran has some goods. He's got something to share with all of us, and so let's not waste any more time and say hello to the funky one. Ben Ascran, who's kind enough to join us on this Monday afternoon. Hello, Ben. How are you? I'm good. That was an interesting interview. Do you know Action Bronson? Are you familiar with him? I mean, I've seen his picture. I had no idea what he does or what he's about.

But that was interesting. Yeah, he's a massive, massive fight fan and also a rapper and a chef and all this stuff. So we go from him to you. Can I just say, you look phenomenal, Ben. Thanks, buddy. You look like you look filled out. You look like your old self. You know, I'm a little, I'm getting there size-wise.

I got a little too much fat. So this prednisone, you know, makes like your fat right here. It's annoying. and, you know, like on the back of your neck, it's, yeah, but I'm getting healthy and getting stronger, and I work out pretty much every single day. It's coming along. Okay, so I want you to share the news, and then I have a million questions. And so the- It was told you have news to share.

I do. Do you not? Are you messing with me? Man, someone didn't let me in on this. Serious. I'm just messing with you. Dude, you all, you know. That was worse than you and Chase Hooper back in the day.

That was a good. We got you on that one. Did you get me on that one. Okay, please, please. The floor is yours. This is a big deal. This is a big deal. Yeah.

Well, I'm going to wrestle. What do you think about that? I can't believe this. Okay. So, yeah, so I was the first signing for Real American Freestyle back in May of 2025 prior to all my issues. And, you know, I love wrestling. I love what they're doing. I've been back coaching for three months or so right now on regular practices.

And when they told me, it was kind of many months ago, but they told me that they were doing a show in Milwaukee. I asked them to come to Milwaukee because I knew we'll knock it on the park. But it was July 18th, and it was my birthday. And I thought, something spoke to me and said, I need to wrestle on that. So I've been doing my very best every single day to train and to get in shape. and it's feeling really good. And, you know, I'm in the wrestling room. I'm wrestling with the guys.

I mean, not super hard yet, but I'm, you know, doing things. And so I told them yesterday, like, hey, I want to wrestle. Last week, hey, I want to wrestle. And they said, okay, if you want to wrestle, we support it. Ben, it was last June that you fell ill, right? May 28th was when I went into the hospital. June 28th was when I got the transplant. And then to my recollection, July 2nd is when I kind of like came to again.

So, I mean, it's June 1st. We're talking essentially a year ago. This is absurd. There had to have been a time where you thought you would never compete in anything, let alone do anything active again, right? I still question it. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, dude, there was a day.

I mean, obviously, like, when I woke up, I couldn't feed myself. I couldn't stand up. I couldn't do anything. And so did you have to get clearance, medical clearance? Like how do you get to the doctor where you can actually do this? Well, I mean, I think I started with when, you know, as I was getting better, I told my doctor, I said, hey, man, I want to go back to coaching practices. I want to go back to my life.

I want to go back to doing what I love. And, you know, he said, obviously, you can. You have to be a little smarter, you know, take a few more precautions. And so when I started back coaching, it was like, hey, I'm just going to start with just the high school kids because they're the oldest. and they're the most mature enough. If I say, hey, if you're sick, I can't be by you. So please just tell me, hey, I'm sick. And, you know, they're way over there and I'm way over there.

And I don't get ever close to them. And I set up a handful of other things that help me stay safe, if you will. And at some point, he actually brought up to me. He said, you should compete in the transplant game. So there's this competition, I guess, where people who, anyone who's had transplant is eligible to compete in this thing. And I said, I don't want to, I don't want to do that. I don't even like running.

Running's dumb. I said, you know what I want to do? I want to wrestle. And he said, well, I don't know about that one. And I said, well, give me exactly why you'd be nervous. Like, you know, because some people think, oh, wrestling, that's really rough. And the only physical thing I had was my chest got cut open, right? So it did get cut in half, in fact.

But that's, you know, it's been nine months now or whatever. And so it's mostly healed. But, you know, there's no more danger in me. wrestling with someone, then there is me sitting close to them at a dinner table conversation. So, you know, I'm very careful with what I do. I still not try not to put myself in big groups. If I have to go in some type of a big group, I'm putting a mask on, which is hilarious because I totally made fun of people with masks.

So that's some karma for me. Teaching me some humility. Yeah. So, and, you know, eventually I got them to see that, hey, I'm kind of wrestling people in the room on a semi-regular basis. And so, you know, wrestling with someone in a match is. just not really all that much different. And so he gave me the thumbs up.

Wow, wow. Okay, so date, opponent, do you have that? Yeah, July 18th, it's my birthday. July 18th, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And I'm a wrestle, Bilal Muhammad. Wow, wow, wow. This is signed sealed and delivered. I don't know if I sign anything yet.

But if I say I'm going to do something, I show up. I never don't show up. Hell yeah. And he's competing this weekend, actually. Yes, he's fighting this weekend. So we train together for a little bit. You know, it was interesting on which opponent I should pick because when I signed with RAF, you know, I was competing at a pretty high level. We have out of Ascom Wrestling Academy, the gym that I'm coaching at, we have quite a few guys.

We have quite a few guys who have won NCAA titles, we won world titles. And so I got to wrestle with them on a really regular basis. So it was like, hey, I want to wrestle someone really good because I'm competing at a very high level still. Now, obviously, this happened, and my wrestling knowledge and my wrestling acumen is still incredibly high, but my physical capacity, like I said, it was probably only five or six months ago where I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded and struggling. So my physical capacity, well, pretty much went to zero. And now, you know, like I said, I trained pretty much every single day in some way, shape, or form, trying to build myself back. I'm in the wrestling room very, very frequently. So I wanted to pick someone who was tough, which Ballal is really, really tough.

But he doesn't have super high-level wrestling credentials, right? That wasn't his background. That's not what he did permanently. So, you know, I know I couldn't compete with some of the high-level wrestlers at this point in my life, but I feel like I could still compete against some really good. And then I didn't want to go to the other side and pick someone who was too easy. Because that annoys me. Some of the wrestlers are, yeah, actually.

They want easy matches, and it's annoying because it's like, you're really, really good. You don't get to go beat up an easy guy. Like, what is the point of competition? The point of competition is to see what we're capable of. And if I know that person's really wimpy, then what's the point of competing against him? In your mind, is this a one-off or are you back? Yeah. No, I'm going to do this one time.

You know what, really, Ariel, kind of one of the things that spoke to me when they said July 18th in Milwaukee was, And I think of like, you know, I lived at first life and now I'm doing a second act because I don't know that I totally should have made it. But I think, you know, what is my purpose moving forward? And I think a part of my purpose is to be able to inspire people who are going through hard things and show them that they can do it, right? And you guys all watch me, you guys all watched me on my deathbed last year and you watch me go through something incredibly hard. and I think the way I've been able to bounce back from it has been inspiring to many people, and I'm not going to stop doing that. And, you know, I just had someone literally on Saturday stopped me and said,

hey, you know, maybe three months before you, I went through a liver transplant. I was in a really, really hard time with it, and I watched all your videos, and it really helped me out. So I feel like that's something that I want to really do, and I think this is going to help push that down the line. It's what people watch me go through, and then they saw, I mean, be very diligent and thorough and bounce back and be able to do most of the things that normal people can do, I think it's be really powerful.

Ben, I'll never forget, and there it is, R.F. 11, July 18, Ben Ascran v. Bilal-Mohamed, this is a real thing. And credit to you, I mean, you're taking on a guy who not that long ago was UFC champion. I understand the pedigree may not be as high as yours as far as wrestling, but tough in shape, in his prime, et cetera. I will never forget where I was. I was at the way in for Taylor Serrano boxing match early July, opening my phone, and the first video was that first one that you posted, where you had like the sort of fu-manchu, it was black. When I woke up, I was so mad. I got all this facial.

I never had that much face with it. And I demanded that my wife bring me a clippers, you know, to do my face with. And then she was worried I was going to cut myself because I was, when you're on that much, you're on tachronymus, it's like your hands really shaking. And so I got mad. And I got her to give it to me for like three minutes. So I was able to like get some of the hair off. I thought it was just the look.

No, I just looked totally ridiculous. But like, you know, then she took it away from me because I think I almost cut myself or something. So that was just how I looked. But then I did convince her to shave my head. A few days later, I had a friend coming to shave my head because my hair was gross. So I'm sorry. Keep going about Taylor Sorbana. I'll know, I'll never forget being there and seeing that and the feeling of the way in which you look like it, it was tough.

It was hard, you know, we've seen you like this. And then to think a year later, you're going to compete is mind-blowing. I mean, it's absolutely mind-blowing. It's literally a year later, I give you all the credit in the world. What about your lovely wife, Amy? What does she think about this? She had to care for you and was there for you every step of the way. Is she on board with this?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's pretty much, she has my back on pretty much everything. You know, she has, I actually, a couple of my kids are sick right now, and that's like, ugh, so annoying, you know, because I got to kind of avoid them in the house. I can't be around them, which as a father that sucks. So she's definitely like, I don't say overprotective, is maybe not the word, maybe overzealous on, you know, here's the hand look like a bottle of hand sanitizer right here, right? Make sure I'll get any germs.

and yeah, she's very on point and all that type of stuff. But I've told her at this point, you know, I am aware of my limitations and I'm aware of what I need to do to keep myself healthy and keep myself out of the hospital. So I'm pretty on point. Hey, I haven't forgotten my medicine. Why I take my medicine morning and night? I have not forgot a singular time in 10 months or whatever it's been since I've been capable on my own. So yeah, I'm on point of that stuff. So I think she's fine with it.

I think she's excited. I remember when we spoke the first time afterwards, it might have been the only time since then, and you would cough a lot, you would like kind of get, does that still happen? No, I'm mostly, I mean, not, I'm saying, not never. I'm mostly really good. You know, the biggest thing now is my energy level.

Actually, today my energy level is way down. I think I felt really good yesterday, so I went really hard. I did a workout, and then I wrestled around when I was in the wrestling room. So I think I just probably spent too much energy yesterday, and so I'm a little tired today. That's the biggest issue is my energy levels kind of really fluctuates from day to day. But, I mean, I'm making great progress.

You know, the Arodine is my best friend, even though it's also my worst enemy. Every single week, I kind of like test myself. Different things I test myself on that. And it's just, it's getting better and better and better. So, yeah, I'm just staying really, really diligent to my training. and most of the things are, I'll say, getting relatively normal, which is really good. Are you nervous? No, I'm not nervous at all.

You know, one of the things that we preach to our athletes is that you need to show up and bring your best effort. And that's something you can absolutely control. And so if you know that you're going to be successful on that marker, I know I'm going to show up and try as hard as I can. am I going to be able to win? I'm not certain on that, right? It's like, I think I'll probably have the capability to win at that point, but I'm not certain, but I know I will show up and I will do my best, and then that's all I can ask out of myself.

And that's something we preach with our athletes a lot. And if you can feel that way about yourself that you're going to show up and you're going to try as hard as you can every single time, it makes you feel very confident in that you're going to hit the metrics you want to hit, the ones that are important. Are you doing this more for yourself or for other people, to give them hope to be an inspiration and to prove to yourself that you can do it.

I think it's a mix of both. I mean, wrestling is my first love. It's what I love to do. I love to wrestle, which I don't really get to do all that much anymore. I love to coach wrestling. And so, you know, getting back and being able to do something that you love so much is really important.

I think that's, you know, I think that's a big part of it. And yeah, and I think I hope. I inspire a lot of people with the ability for them to watch me go through something really hard and deal with the adversity and come back from adversity because, you know, no matter who you are in life, you're going to go through something really hard at some point. I wouldn't wish what I went through on a lot of people because that was really hard, maybe a little too hard,

but if they're going through something a little less hard, and I know obviously people went through harder things than I have, but it was pretty hard. that they can get through it and they can still go and be who they want and live the life they want to live. I saw you mention on social media that what you heard about Kyle Bush's shocking passing was very similar to what you went through? Creepy. It was really creepy, actually. Wow. So what was... Yeah, it was almost a year of the day. I want to say he passed on, I want to say it was May 26 or something. And I went to the hospital on May 28th. So just like the timing of it being almost one year,

to when I went to the hospital. And I've said this before. I'll say it again. Hopefully I don't cry. If I would have been on a trip with myself, like my wife was with me on that trip. If I would have been by myself, you would have found me dead in the hotel room,

for sure. Wow. Or dead at the Bitcoin conference. Because I wasn't going to go to the damn hospital. Like, that's just not who I am, you know? And I got to assume Kyle Bush was very similar. Like, I had back pain.

That was it. I didn't have a fever. I didn't have the flu. I didn't have a cough. I didn't have anything. And so it's like, had I died in that circumstance, there would have been all kinds of like conspiracy theories like, oh, was you doing drugs or what happened, blah, blah, blah, blah, and the truth is I just got sick and I didn't know I was sick.

And it progressed incredibly rapidly because remember I went into the, not ER. What's the word I'm looking for? Urgent care. I went to the urgent care the day before. I had all my vitals tested. I saw a doctor. Everything checked out. There was nothing that was like red flashing lights.

Like, oh my God, this guy's in deep trouble. And then 24 hours later, I literally blacked out. And I don't remember anything. I literally just went. It's funny because it was the one year anniversary. I started asking my wife questions like, hey, how soon after I went in was I on the ventilator, right? Or how soon after I went in, did this, you know, like, I didn't know. I had no idea, but it was like, I think I was on the ventilator within 24 hours of checking into the hospital.

So there was, like, to me, there was literally zero indication besides back pain. And who knows, who could ever know that back pain is necrotizing pneumonia? Like, who would guess that? And so you don't think there's any chance. You make it all the way back. You look great. You win by tech fall. You don't think there's any I'll keep going here. No. I'm not wrestling again. No. I don't think so. I'm going to do it once and I'm going to enjoy it.

And then I'm going to coach wrestling and enjoy my family and help Raff grow. RF, it's just, it's awesome to see what they've been doing. When I first talked to them, I thought these guys have a great idea. I think it's going to work. But I never really imagined it would

work this quickly. Even my best case scenario was not as good as it's going. Oh my God. I was literally just going to ask you that. I remember when Chad, Eric Bischoff, Chad Bronsie and Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan called me out of the blue to tell me about this. And the first thing I said was I remember real pro wrestling. Remember that in the early 2000s?

Yep, of course. And great idea. I think the sport has come a long way. The MMA fighters have come. But I don't, you know, who knows what it's going to be. I'm blown away. we were talking earlier, thank God for R.A.F. this year, like, from a media perspective, the stories that they've given us, honestly, like on this Monday, we're talking to you,

we're talking to Armin, thank God for what they've done for the fighters to give them an opportunity to get paid. The shows are fun. The production is great. You've developed some stars. Like, it's, I'm shocked that they are where they are less than a year in. It's really truly shocking. Yeah, I agree that, like I said, even in my best case in arrow, it didn't move this quickly. So I'm ecstatic with how it's going. And you know the thing you did not say there that was really important to me from because one of my dreams was helping a professional wrestling organization succeed is it's kind of being wrestling cool. And like I'm a nerd. I thought wrestling was cool.

I've always loved wrestling. But wrestling's kind of getting cool, which is it's really positive because unfortunately younger kids, they're very much influenced by what is cool. and what is not cool. And the impact wrestling can have on a young person's life from the values it teaches them. I mean, my whole life is because of wrestling. Like the values and the lessons it taught me are incredible. And so ideally we can turn that cool factor into a whole bunch more kids trying wrestling, loving wrestling, and learning the values that wrestling has to offer.

Are you putting together any of the matches? Yeah, that's part of my job. Oh, wow. Okay. Armin Colby, who do you like in that? That's interesting, you know. I don't make all the matches. I did not make that match.

I was interested because Armand is going up in weight. I think they're wrestling at, I believe it's 185, whereas Colby's wrestled a bunch of his matches at 200 pounds. That's obviously of inflated from their fighting weights. Their fighting weights are 55 and 70. Colby's clearly a larger person. I'm very split on it. I think it's kind of a coin flip.

Colby Wythman was a fun one. I thought that would be really competitive, and it was. Armin did have some close matches against Georgia Apulos, who was a, he was an all right college wrestler, I guess, we'll say. So I don't, yeah, I don't really know what to expect. I think it's going to be competitive. I think it'll be close. I'll go Armand by a point. Okay.

How do you think Gable did? I'd imagine you thought he did really well. And how do you think he's going to do in the UFC more importantly for now? Yeah. I mean, I have been on record for a long time. You can probably go dig up an old tweet where I said if Gable starts training, he could be the UFC champ in two years. I actually made a video a few weeks back about how Josh Hockech proves my theory.

Because my theory was that a head. heavyweight wrestler who can move well, right? So Josh Hokit is very athletic, and he has the heavyweight wrestling credentials. A guy who can do that can move up the ladder very, very, very quickly. So Hokit did that. Gable is obviously a superior wrestler to Josh Hokit, and I would argue he's as good of an athlete.

So I feel like he's probably going to do the same thing. The one thing that Josh Hokit has that's really impressive, besides his trash talking he's kind of fearless there's not a lot of dude to the would let it fly like that against Curtis Blades he came out and he blitzed him

and then you know some people when they blitz they expect to finish him and then when blades started firing back he stayed in the fire and that's a really really good quality if you're going to be a fighter I mean it's really impressive

so yeah I think Gable can do something similar. I think you can move very quickly. I think if you look at Cyril Gahn and Alex Pereira, that's going to be the next champion, right? They are not great wrestlers. So if you put a wrestler in there again, are they going to get it, are they going to take down

kind of quickly and dominate on top? There's a definite possibility that's what happened with John Jones and Cyril Gahn. So, yeah, I think he'll do really well. That was kind of long answer for saying. You'll do good. I appreciate that. By the way, did Jorge Mosvidal really?

really baptize you? He was present at my baptism, which I realized how funny that is. I think someone, that bottom one is fake. Oh, okay. That's a fake picture right there. That's AI. You probably did that. I did not do that.

I don't know where we found that, but he was there, right? He was there. Yeah, so he reached out. So we're doing a movie. A dog. A documentary, sorry. Documentary is a form of movie. It is a movie, yes, but when I think of movie,

when someone says that, I think of like a, you know, like a scripted film. But yes, a documentary. With Rory Karp, the legend. Rory Karp, do you know him? Yes. So anyway, he had reached out to Rory and just said, like, you know, and he said the public also, like,

I would like to meet with Ben, he's been inspiring to me. And, you know, I, dude, I don't hold grudges. Like, yeah. Yeah, if you want to, of course. Come on up. My door's open. Coming up whenever you want. And it worked out for him to be here that weekend.

We sat down. We had dinner. It was good. You know, he lives in Miami and I live in Wisconsin. So are we going to hang out all the time? Like, probably not. I also can't travel. So, you know, there's that.

But, yeah, we definitely buried the hatchet. We got along. It was good. It's funny because we've had a lot of mutual friends for a long time. So, yeah, it was. It was really good. Texting each other DMing, or is it just... I've messaged him a couple times, but, you know, we went back and forth a few times.

But, yeah, not immensely. I don't know what's more improbable. You wrestling, are you being buddies with Jorge and him being at your baptism? I told you, I don't hold grudges. I mean, if someone wants to bury the hatchet, I think we had the beef one time because you misinterpreted what I said. No, no, no. That's not.

You did. You did. You did in fact. No, actually, what happened was I said that you were, when... against, I think it was Douglas Lima, wasn't that all that educated. You were roasting me about it. I wasn't roasting. And by the way, isn't it funny now you're the guy roasting people on your YouTube

channel with DC and all that? And you didn't like that. And you said, how about I fight you? Remember that? Not what I said. See, see, here's, here's you trying to tell lies, Ariel. I said, you said, you said, you banned me from your show. You said, you can never come on my show again.

And I said, good. I want to come on your show about as bad as you want to get in the cage with me. Is that, is that true, though? Hey, who's your producer right now? That's New York, Rick. Okay, I don't know what you just said. That might have been a foreign language. I'm not sure.

But let's see, April 2012, I believe. How did you find this so fast? No, I'm not finding it. Did he find it? Oh, no. Well, you said April 2012. That's when it was. I fought Douglas Lima in April 2012.

Oh, got you. If your producer wants to go look up tweets between me and you in April of 2012, that's when it would be from. I remember. Can we find that? I remember this. I remember exactly where I was when I, I mean, you've, there's a lot of you calling me out here. There's the Chase Hooper thing.

You're making fun of my bobblehead collection. I just typed in Ben Asking wants to fight Ariel. And I remember it. And I remember feeling like I was down and then you, you declined because you said you didn't want the smoke. Ariel, I could have pinned you on my deathbed, son. You're 100% right, by the way. You're 100% right.

smokes. I know you have to go. I know you have to go. So I'm meeting at two. You're going to make me late for my own meeting. I'm going to meet with me managers. It's going to be really good. We're talking about the pillars of what ADWA stands for. We did this in the beginning and we're redoing it after 15 years. So I think I think it's exciting. It's going to be a good meeting. July 18th, Milwaukee, tickets on sale now. You versus Belal Mohammed. You're actually coming back. Oh, my gosh. That's me on my deathbed. They need a new picture. Yeah, what's up with our poster was better than this one. Come on. What is? Show them here.

Show them ours. Now, I can't be mad. Listen, you said that, not me. This one, this is the one we made. That's better, right? That's an old picture of me. But go back to the other one. Let's go back.

So I know I took some pictures with RAF, but you could tell. Just like if you see my shoulders and neck and face, that was when I was much, much, much smaller. I want to say that was from, I went to a Chicago show in November, so probably from then. With the singlet on. What's the prediction? What's the prediction? I'm going to go out there and I'm going to do my best. I think if my body holds up, which I'm feeling pretty confident about that,

I think I'll be able to do some good wrestling. Can't wait. Thanks for doing this, Ben. Congrats. Welcome back. See, buddy. There he is, Ben Ascran. Coming back.

Breaking news. Guys, that's absurd. That video that I saw, I remember that fight, Taylor Shrano was July 11th. I think it was at the press conference July 9th. I'll never forget. I was in the back at MSG Theater. And I saw that and was, you know the one I'm talking about. He had a Fumanchu, black beard, never seen him with facial hair.

And I'm like, I remember there was a fight. So it was late June, mid-June, late June. It might have been, is it possible it was even the Atlanta card last year? It was one of those, right? June 14th, one of those. And there was rumors that he had died. There were people online saying that he had died. A year later, he's going to be going up against Bilal Muhammad in a wrestling match.

What? is Bilal Mohammed in the worst spot possible? Because is it one of those things like if he goes hard, everyone will hate him? Without the sex. If he went, like, no one's going to be rooting for Balala. Even though he's from nearby Chicago, I just feel like that's a... No one will be rooted. Right?

That's a tough spot to be in. You're going up against the guy who almost died? If you win, congrats, you beat a guy that almost died. If you lose... Well, thanks for losing, actually, because we're going to be supporting Ben Asper. But then everyone's going to clown on you for losing to the guy who almost died or not? I think the spotlight will be so heavily on Ben Asker and that it won't matter. I'm honestly a little bit surprised that he agreed to it for that reason, right?

It's really a lose-lose. You win dominantly, everyone's like, yeah, that was weird. And then you lose. You're like, wow, you lost to him? I don't know. But maybe we're, I can't believe he's doing this. I really can't believe he's doing this. When they told me this, I was like, wow.

Have we found that quote, by the way? because I feel like Ben Ascran fight Rick, do you remember this? What about that callback though? This is from a 2019 article that you wrote and it just has a quote, Hey, Aral Hawani, I'm still waiting on your expert advice.

What strategy would have helped me finish the fight? I'll invite you to go in a cage with me. When you do that, I will do your show. Otherwise, kiss my ass. Is that? That's not direct. That's not what he said, all right? That's vindicator.

I'm right. No? And then also in that article does say that you did temporarily banned. Oh, yeah, I did ban him. Yeah, we were handing out bands left him right back then. That was the ban era.

That was the ban era. Ben Folks got a band, shop got a ban. Oh, Ben Folks got a ban. Yeah, he knows. He was no show, yeah. No show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The band lasted a month. Yeah, he's like Beyonce or something. Wait, but that's it right there. Please put that up one more time because the last line. I invite you to go into the cage with me. When you do that, I'll do your show. There it is. I feel like you and Ben should have been wrestling here.

Oh, my God. Could you imagine? Mevers spin out. You'd have to have a full costume. Wait, are you wrestling bent folks because he wouldn't show up on your show? $20 million for the kitchen scrap. That actually would have been great, yeah,

if you had wrestled him. Because then he would win. He'd get over. Kill me. But then it's like, oh, respect. You went out there and did it, man. I guess so. I don't think I'd look good in the singlet.

Yeah, I can't lie. My mind was won. That's bad self-talk, mate. That's bad self-talk. I think you'd look five years. I regret it. I regret thinking about it. It's actually tough to look good in a singlet.

You got to be in good. shape, man. But it covers the gut and the tits. Like, it's pretty good situations. Ward accentuates the gut and the tent. What's wrong with Rickover? You got some good traps on you? I'm trying to find the, oh, okay.

I'd rather wear a singlet than go shortless because melted ground situation, you know what I'm saying? Full singlet? I don't need it. Oh, Serglet, way better. Tweet's from 10 years ago is like, it might as well not even have. Yeah, shirtless. You know, you know, back in the day.

You're a better shortless guy than me, G. I'll give you that, you know what I'm. a good shirtless guy. I'm a very fair. Well, if you weren't, we're fucked. I was down at a lakehouse this weekend, and I was getting clown for how pale. Well, for once it's not me, I'm going to happy with that.

Oh, pasties here. Take it easy. Ah, your head, it's so bald. I used to love, I used to love Kurt Angle, and sometimes, Mr. Perfect, at some point in the match, pick up the straps. I would take off, when they took off the straps, you know shit was about to get real.

I want to see someone do that. Chad Gable did that in the... He did do it. He did do it, yeah. Triple A match. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man. I kind of blew it with action, by the way.

I was thinking of this. What? I should have asked them to incorporate $30 million for the kitchen scrap in one of his upcoming stuff. No, no, you don't request that. No quest? He has to be inspired. You don't ask him to do that. The pop when we hear it is going to be unbelievable.

Yeah, it's going to be unbelievable. I was just saying to the lads in the group, Abdulmanap rhymes with the... $2 million for the kitchen scrap. Oh, tell me, tell me, what's the line? What's the line? But he already did Abdulmanab. Yeah, he's not going to do it.

You know it's so crazy? Because his voice is so iconic, he always talks about Abdulmanup, and so I guess when I heard it in the song, I had thought that I had heard it before, because he always mentioned Abdulmanup, like the way in which he says it is so unique. He likes mythology and whatnot, you can tell. What's the line with Abdulman up and $30 million? What's the line?

Let's workshop it. You had one. I thought you said you thought. God of one. No, I just said it rhymes. $30 million for the kitchen scrap. Why would we get involved with this? I got $30 million.

If one of the greatest living. I'm training with Abdulmanap. There it is. There it is. Or I'm calling up Abdulmanab because I got $30 million for the kitchen scrap. But you're seeing it not rhyming.

Abduemnapp. You got to call him Abdulman nap for the scrap. Oh. I made John Jones take a nap. He thought he was getting $30 million for a kitchen scrap. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

There is, action. Okay, but here's the thing. We're now being disrespectful for thinking that we could even come up with the lives. He definitely hearing this. Let him do it. Exactly. He's hearing this, and he's like, this is ass. Should I voice out of?

No, do not talk about it. Now, don't, don't. He'll ruin it forever. You do not do this. I want him to incorporate. The intro, he had the whole thing settle. If you had to just torn. No, you're overproducing.

Let him. I'm telling you guys, next two and a half week, I'm going to be off my game. I ruined that moment. It's okay, man. I ruined that moment. It ruined my life. That could have been it.

That could have been the highlight there. I ruined the moment. If he can... Play it up my funeral, Ma! When he turns to the camera and says the line. But he doesn't. If he can incorporate...

Pee-T could have clip that off and had that forever. 30 million for a kitchen scrap and the line about dunking on someone in the Farragamo shoes. A single piece piece of Italian leather. You know what's funny,

like, I get more messages about, like, two instances in my life where action bronzes and said anything about me or acknowledged who it was, more messages than anything that's ever happened before in my life. People's like, oh my God. I mean, the power of the man.

He's the best. Yeah. Yo, could you imagine like it's like, um, da-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Like, it's like, this guy's here, and it's, like, this guy's here, and it's action courtside wearing a full tux seat up. The tux.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, no. That's fucking incredible. He's going to be sitting there, courtside. Could you imagine if it coincides with them winning and he's just like their toast-to-stop. that like with the sharp toes getting the jersey

sign to give away the infamous jersey that he wears all the time the Ewing jersey I went down stairs well that was on and I was playing on on my phone

like get me dinner or whatever and Elaine was like action on Ariel are really cold friends aren't they I was like yeah and she goes such a weird duo

isn't it and I was like boy she's like no just just very different guys aren't they and I was like I don't know

yeah exactly exactly what you're trying to say yes they were very different you know it's funny the vast majority of my friends are like him. I've always been very close with... John Beer.

The tattoos, the... Eclectic. Narcotics. For some reason, we just go... Narcotics. You know? What are you? A fucking cop?

Narcotics. Oh, man. Ponding the lads down on the way into the guys. What is that supposed to mean, Elaine? You don't think I'm hip? You don't think I'm cool? Yeah, just let her know you say narcotics. I can get down.

I could buggy. I got PRJs. Hello, hello kids. Hello. The narcotics. Fucking hell. Oh, I hope you guys got some narcotics. It's going to be a crazy night.

He actually made me feel better. Narcics just to describe like smoking a bunch of weed. Yeah, I was just trying to be cool about it. He made me feel much better, though. He actually thought someone was talking to me. Little does you know, no one says anything to me during the interviews. I was just like admiring him. He was making me so happy.

You could just listen to him. He let it. He let it hang. He paused for a second and you were just giggling because it's Action Bronson in front of you. With the camera zoomed up here. He has a good insight on the finals. He's like, what are we going to do?

And he's like, we're going to watch the games and hope for the best. I know, I know. Trust me. I wish I could be that way. But we're different. Living legend. Oh, my God. What a guy.

Okay. Still to come, by the way, Armantarukian is going to join us in about an hour's time to talk about the Colby fight and all the other things. Can we go back to all the other stuff that transpired? We have a lot more to get to, including news and notes. and we just gave you some breaking news regarding one Ben Asgren. What about the Oshaki Foster

versus Raymond Ford fight and what about what transpired in the first round of this fight? Did you guys happen to see there was a little Royal Rumble action although if this was actually the Royal Rumble, what it got? Here's Foster with the ponytail

just throwing Ford out of the ring. It wasn't a tussle. He just said, you know what? I've had enough of you. But this is two minutes and 45 seconds into the match. By the way, not a single point taken away here. He definitely

threw him out of the ring. Did he not? He ended up winning the fight. Great performance, great win for him. This is a byproduct of the top rank de zone deal. We're starting to see a lot of cohesion between top rank and matchroom in particular. Of course, next weekend, excuse me, next month,

Xander's Eyes versus Boots Ennis here in New York is going to be unbelievable. That's in late June. But Foster looked great. Think they're going to deal to Shikor fight? Well, speaking of which, Shakur was there, and they got into it. Here it is.

Can we go sound up on this? I love the last holding up the bells just for the argument. I love Shakur. He says, get in the ring. Shakur is about that life. Shakur is gladly going to enter the ring. Here's Shakur. Here's Shakur coming.

WBC. I love Shakur. Look at that necklace, by the way. Do you know sometimes lads will tailor their language if they're appearing on a broadcast? This did not happen in this exchange. Now, could I just say, young man from Newark rocking the Red Sox hat? I don't know how I feel about that. Manick's getting in there.

I don't know what nothing is. That's great. I don't know what nothing is. Man, what's on, bro. Don't disrespect me, man. Don't disrespect me, nigga. Don't disrespect me, bro. Hey, I'm going to come see you next. You're a beat.

Oh, my word. That is great stuff. Shakur's the best. Shakur's box office. He's got like eight feuds going on right now. So sign me up for that. That would be tremendous. And then we get to Mexico.

Who watched it? Show of hands. Who watched it? I watched it. Not live, but I watched the... I watched it. I watched it. I watched it.

I don't know what that looked. Pete, you watched a lot? Can I just say for the record? I just say for the record. I started the fucking first prelim. Yeah. Of that fucking Macau card and I finished up after that main event. That's fucking dedication right there. I think you were even you were watching home, which ended later.

Yeah. Robbed. Home, robbed. I was very sleepy. We're getting them. I'm going to say robbed. Robbed. How many hours is that? Like first prelim of Macau? 20. Was it 20? 19. 19. Wow. And did you watch at least a portion of everything?

Yeah, I no, I missed R-AF. Okay. And that was it. You're not about that. Miss R-A-F. All right. Well, I'll tell you what happened

with R-A-F. Last time I went to watch it, it was very excited for the rematch between Armin and Pueless. And then I turned it on, and I watched the fight before that, I believe it was Colby and wrestling match before that,

which is Colby and Danis. And just as the main event started, it was like, oh, this is going really well. They killed the stream. So do you know what? I just can't, I can't do that to myself again, Ariel, I'm not ready. No, no, no.

Can't do that. Wait, wait. Was this an illegal stream? No. They stream it on YouTube, but the stream just went dead. Wow, wow, wow. Oh, on YouTube over there? I haven't forgiven them for you.

I haven't forgiven them for it. You're still holding out. Well, hopefully you'll watch maybe June 13, July 18th. Anyway, they should be so lucky. Mascara versus Mascara, Mascara versus Mask. I said this yesterday. It's the match of the year that had the entrance of the year. It's the feud of the year.

Undertaker's the Booker of the year. It was the crowd of the year. everything. It had absolutely everything. Please do yourself a favor, even if you don't like wrestling. Find it. It's on YouTube for most people. It's AAA. Mass. Mass. Vass versus mask. Mascara versus mask. Watch the main event. El Grande Americano OG, which ended up being revealed as Chad Gabel. We all knew this. Even though we knew it, it was still amazing. Chad Gable was amazing. The way he took the mask on. Having his family there, the shame. The post-match promo, the blood just squirting out of his head into his eyes going like this.

And then Kaiser, I mean, this moment right here. This is, it is so free, Lucillebra is so freaking good. It means so much. That's Ludwig Kaiser. Just a sort of great wrestler, but a mid-carder. And he has turned into, did you guys see this video? They had this video of him at the beginning of the day sort of entering the arena with an army of people behind him. Look at this video.

Look at this. Struggling with that flag. Yeah. It's so good. Okay, can I ask a question? Please, please, please. What did he do to get so over with the Mexican people? What was it that he did?

Because from somebody who's just been following this through your excitement for it, and then watching the match, Chad Gable emptied his pockets. Like, he walked them around. I was much more drawn to Chad Gable. I thought he absolutely smashed it in that match. The better wrestler, the performance after, the way he cut the promo in the ring after, you know, giving him the flowers but saying, you know, I'll be back. Like, I was much more drawn to him. So I'm curious, what did he do that made him so over with the Mexican people?

Okay, this is a great, great question. And, you know, I've been trying to find a sort of expert on this, honestly, to weigh in on it. but I did see a tweet, and I'm trying to find it here real quick, regarding this particular topic, actually, about why it resonated. So first of all, it has to, it only resonates because, to your point, Chad made it into a thing. It first started off as a sort of gimmick, a comedy thing. Everyone knows it's Chad. Everyone knows, you know, he's sort of a Kurt Angle type of figure. it starts off like that

and he made it into a thing and then the secondary El Grande Americano character comes and even the way like Kaiser is walking there and the way he embraced the culture I saw some people, I found the tweet I saw some people saying like

ah these are two Americans Americans, white guys playing Mexican characters and this is inauthentic and there's a Twitter page Lucha Libre online that wrote in Spanish, but there's the The auto-transliction. Yeah.

That says, Dear foreign fandom, never tell Mexico again that it is acceptable or culturally correct. So again, this is, so I think what they're trying to say like that. What is? Yeah. Yeah. You are not Mexican and do not understand Lucha Libre. In Mexico, Lucha Libre is culture and tradition.

Saying that having quote unquote foreign talents with mask is bad, turns it into cultural appropriation and a form of racism. The Mexicans love the story because it made him live all the emotions and that is the magic of Lucha Libre. You live, you feel, you cry, you laugh, you love, you sit back and enjoy. Do not try and change Lucha Libre. Two nights are already part of Mexican Lucha Libre history and will be elevated as an instant classic. Big Mexican, Chad Gabel, Ryo, Bravo, Andrea Pimpy, Undertaker, Jeremy Borash. I tip my hat to you. Thank you for loving, respecting, and elevating Mexico to a new level. And so I think it goes back.

I think it goes back to that line where he said, a Mexican is born whenever they feel. And I think they felt that from him. But what's interesting is, one, Chad Gable said something similar to that in his post-fight, right? He goes, or his post-match, he goes, I came to learn about Lucha Libre and then, like, take it apart, right? I wanted to destroy it as this invader. And then he's like, but I came to love it and came to embrace the culture and I'm thankful for the Mexicans. I mean, again, I thought he just aced it.

My thing is I don't get why Ludwig Kaiser was the baby face and he was the heel other than maybe they had set up the match that way because I was so with Chad Gable Ludwig had the girl, the girl gets fired she's Mexican like he was very he was healing it up he was just like that

was showing up taking the piss going there wasn't it yes he was sort of mocking them he has the two dudes the Creed brothers come up as the bad guy one was wearing the vest and all that stuff. So they were very clearly the bad guys. Ludwig was so over-the-top baby face, but in the best way possible, and everyone just sort of fell in love with him.

I think the girl matters. She's very popular over there. She's Mexican, so she sort of annoints him as one of their own just by, you know, by virtue of being together. I mean, they're freaking making out in the elevator that's tremendous. She doesn't love that.

JBL had a great line. Yop the blue. Did you hear JBL's line? No, what did he say? So at some point she showed up with, great, by the way. With the ticket, she shows up because...

Yeah, yeah, she shows up in the crowd. Where's she come from? Last time I heard about her, she was like fighting people in an elevator or something like that. JBL's great. Is that all just part of the storyline?

No, I don't think so. No, that part. Will you intimate? I think that would control. At Rick's point, the physicality of the match was crazy. I've rarely watched the wrestle

match where I'm like, holy, like, Jesus, these laws are beating the shit out of each other. Like, Gable, to Rick's point, I was the same. I was like, this guy, is giving it everything. Like, and the boys were selling the shit out of what they were doing.

Like, they were just punching each other in the face, like, at one stage. I was like, there's no, there's no kind of safety issues here. They're just beating the shit out. You can see the faces open up. Yeah, the ripping of the mask for both of them. Ariel, you were asking for an expert. I have an expert. I have an expert right here sitting next to me.

Who's that? We're going to bring our expert in. Our guy, Josh? Hold on. Oh, my gosh. Intern Josh is here? Wow. Wow.

Josh Spargo, his make this debut. On his first day. Intern Josh is here I have arrived I haven't seen baby Get comfortable Oh he's even got a lower third Wow wow

Welcome to the team Josh Those are not easy to make by the way That costs a lot of money Oh he still don't have one of those Josh So fair to play Josh welcome to the team man Thank you man I appreciate One of our own Syracuse's finest

Hell yeah new else Hardcore wrestling fan Okay so Rick just teed you up Why was this such a big deal Why did it resonate? Yeah so Chad Gable started the character initially as a heel. It was more of a comedy character, I would say, kind of mocking Mexican culture.

And then he gets injured. W.W.B. just decides Ludwig Kaiser is the right way to go since he gets kind of moved out of Gunter's position and Imperium and that all kind of ends. So at first, it's very random online. Twitter's freaking out about the whole, you know, putting Ludwig Kaiser in this situation because it's so random at first. But then... And by the way, just to interrupt, are they hoping that we don't realize that it's a different person when they're doing this, even though their body types are completely different? So I think that is, that's more like the joke of it. I think it's, it's obvious, but the way that the world reacted to it and the way the world

played into it was not expected. And obviously, once they figure that out, they ran with it. Okay, okay. Keep going. And so what happened was, one, a big part of his, Ludwig Kaiser speaks fluent Spanish. That was a huge deal, obviously for the character and a big reason why Mexico. Oh, he didn't learn Spanish for this. No, no, no.

He's fluent in Spanish. He's fluent in German. fluent in America, English. Wow, wow, wow, okay, okay. So that's a big deal, obviously. That's why he resonated a lot with them. And then he kind of took the character which Gable was playing,

which was a heel kind of mocking to a, essentially an icon. He was adapting his wrestling style to the Lucha style that Lucha Libre is. He changed the way he looks. He presents himself, of course. And that's why. It was more that Chad Gable. was a heel and kind of mocking them and the American crowd wasn't liking it and the Mexican crowd wasn't liking it either. And then Ludwig Kaiser comes in, speaks fluent Spanish and kind of

talks about how Chad Gable was mocking the crowd and mocking this culture. And like you said, he says, you know, a Mexican is born anywhere. Like that resonated with the crowd so much. And I don't think anybody expected it, but it was incredible. It's a great story that kind of came out of nowhere. Did you watch it? Absolutely. Did you love it? I loved it. I shed a tear at the end of it.

You shed an actual tear? There was a legit tear droplet right here. Wow. Why did it resonate with you? Are you Mexican? I am not. So why did you feel that? Why did I feel?

Because the storytelling was so good, and I feel like I haven't seen anything like that in my life. I'm 20 years old. I was born in 2005. In my time watching wrestling, I probably started watching wrestling 15 years ago when I was just five years older, give or take. I've never seen the crowd react that way, whether or not W.W. goes to Italy or they go somewhere else that where, you know, the crowds are erupting. I've never seen a crowd, you know, be on the same guy's side, but to that level. I've never seen, you know, like the video we just showed of him walking in with his army. And like you've mentioned

on the last week's shows with the brawls, it just, it felt so real. And that's, a good taste of what wrestling should be, because of course it's scripted, and of course it's predetermined, but it should feel real. Well said. It does. It really does.

The brawls were amazing. And the fact that that's his real girlfriend, right, so that it was sort of mirroring and blurring the lines. Do you think now that it's over, Ludwig goes back to being Ludwig, or do you think he's just going to remain as this guy and we'll never see Ludwig again?

I think there's, I can't see them going back to, you know, what he was because he was Goonter's guy and he was a good wrestler. People were always pushing for him, you know, to go up and go up the rankings and make the upper midcard, you know, better. But, I mean, he is a global phenomenon now. It's hard to deny that. He's certainly coming for the AAA championship that Dominic Mysterio now holds.

Oh, yes. They just announced triple mania is happening in Vegas and Mexico, actually. It's the first time they've done it in America. Wow. which will be great, and I would be very surprised if El Grande Americano was not in the main event. Oh, him versus Dominic is going to be huge. That's going to be incredible. Wow. I think that's the only path you can go right. Wow, wow, wow. And why do so many people say, I see this online, oh, originally they said, oh, this should have been on WrestleMania, and now thank God it wasn't on

WrestleMania. Why is it so much better the where it happened on Saturday? Because the American crowd just didn't react the same way. You know, it was at the very, very early part of this rivalry and what happened here. It was actually El Grande Americano, the OG was the face in America, and they were actually cheering him as opposed to Ludwig Kaiser. But then I think the way that the Mexican crowd took it, and they first realized, you know, the Undertaker and the promoters at AAA really realized, like, wow, there's something to this that we never would have expected. And sometimes that's the beauty of these rivalries in professional wrestling because you never really know

which moment is going to take off, which scene, which clip is going to boost to millions of views, and that's the best part. And when you see that, you have no choice but to run for it. Man. Do you think we see him on Raw, or do you think they just keep him or SmackDown, or do you think they just keep him over there?

It's a good question. I think, of course, he will be seen there, but it's, you know, it's what does he do there? Because I think now that he's so over in Mexico, he's so over in the world, Everybody loves him. He's a great wrestler, whether he's Ludwig Kaiser,

or whether he's just Al Grande Americano. But I think just with the way he is so popular in Mexico, he's never going to get that pop. And they'll love him, but he's never going to get that reaction, that, you know, that decibel breaking meter in America. And so I think he's probably just going to be on weekly AAA from here on out. Guys, what about intern Josh making his debut? Wow.

Look at this. Break down, Josh. Breaking it down. Josh. It's nice. Great stuff. Oh my God. This is the new New York Rick, according to Matlock Fight Talk.

This is it. Rick, you're out. Intern Josh is in. Technically, New York, Josh, just upstate New York. Or I thought Philly. No, he's a Philly boy. He's a Philly boy. He's a Philly boy.

I don't know. You know what? Syracuse. I don't know if I like that. I don't know if I like that comment by that person, just like, immediately dismissing me. He's a baby face. He's not the only person crying. If you go on the YouTube video of it, which has like 1.7 million views, the top three comments.

Storyline. was perfect. I was in tears. I was tearing up when they were chanting Gable's name. Wow. Easily one of the best storyline conclusions in the past 10 years of wrestling. Wow, wow. They did it. They definitely did it. People loved it, man. We, like, we, I'm watching this weekend. We're literally watching it because Ariel said, this is a thing I'm really interested and we're going to talk about it. Watched it. I was completely in, like, immediately, like straight in. This big storyline at the

start. You know, like a kind of a flash true or where the road. Oh, so good, right? The comic book thing? I'm not thinking an hour long. Yeah. It's an hour long. What about when he walked out and the hat fell off and then one of the mariachi band guys put it on his head? I was like, this is magic. Or every time he would go over to the crowd and a new person would be like embracing him and like pumping him back up.

It was perfect. I really enjoyed it. I wonder what he does from here. Dominic idea is tremendous. That has to be where they go. And Dominic is such a good heel. Yeah. Obviously the son of Ray Mysterio, who's I think, what is he?

Like the GM or something? the commissioner of AAA. Look, I think a lot of people were skeptical when WWE bought AAA. And you know what's so funny? Last week we were talking about AEW, right? We were talking about AEW, and I was saying AEW, the little engine that could. I know, obviously, owned by billionaire, you're not that. No, but in this forum, they are the David versus the Goliath.

How much did they pay you to say this? Meanwhile. Can I ask. Yes. Well, let me just finish this thought. Okay. Meanwhile, I said, my favorite thing, not only in wrestling, but in combat sports, is this angle, and this is a WWE angle.

They own AAA. So we're just telling you like it is. My favorite thing, but I can also say that AEW is doing really well. There's momentum. It feels fresh. It's sort of the opposite of what we see in WWE in terms of the presentation, the product, the flow. And so there's no bias. I'm telling you my favorite thing is a WWE thing, but also AWWs.

It's okay to say that. You know where you get that kind of take? You get it on the Uncrown Wrestling Show. Stop bending over backwards for these losers who want to just pick apart. Just as... Get out of here, everything I'm hearing about WWE is it's absolute wank, right? This is AAA and Undertaker is there and they own it.

Should you be worried as a AAA fan that they could do their role, switcher-rude, get the taker and put them on WWE, which is wank at the moment. That's an interesting take. People are saying they used to say that about Triple H. It was the head booker at NXT. We want to see him on the big show and now they don't... But he had some good days.

He had some good days. Yeah. anti-Tripple-A. I think it's good to have the smaller property have that momentum and operate outside of the WWE like, you know, overarching you know,

what's the word I'm looking for? Like monolith like the, yeah, just like, exist outside of that and continue to tell these stories. That was bad to any match on WrestleMania. I agree with that. Roman Punk was great. I enjoyed that a lot more. It was the match of the year. Yeah, it was great. What about the

blind comedian? He was someone that showed up earlier in the story where the OG guy beat him up. But he's like a legit superstar there. So that's why they go crazy when he shows up in the front row. There's things about the culture. There's things about, you know, their pop culture that we don't know about or understand. And so to be sort of dropped, I would never watch AAA. I mean, I'm aware of it.

I went to a CMLL show way back in the day when we were in, was a UFC 180, Fabrice Redoom versus Mark Hunt. And it was incredible. It was one of the great experiences. That's where I bought the El Narees mask, the one that I always would wear on the McAfee Show and whatnot. I thought you had been gifted that by a long lineage of... No, no, believe it or not.

Ray gave me his money in the bank. You did give me that. I remember that. That was cool. That was cool. That was unbelievable. Money in the bank, what was it? 2000, 22 when we were there for the ringer show.

Remember Pizzi? We were there that? Money in the wank. Sorry. Anyway, it was tremendous. Yeah, right, mate. And I was, Listen, I was at the boxing on Saturday, and I was searching for updates on that, and, of course, Thunder Spurs, because I wanted to know who the Knicks would play.

So my mind was on that as well. I'm not sure. Did you guys watch MVP on Saturday on ESPN? Anyone watch it? I did not see it. Live, I went back and watched it. I watched them. Sky Sports, that's right.

Undercard was pretty good. There's a young woman named Elise Soto, who was an amazing, amazing interview afterwards, had a great performance. but it was really all about, well, the top four fights on the main card were obviously the most talked about ones, all title fights. There's an Australian fighter named Desley Robinson who wanted the Shui. I got to actually see a Shui in person, which was very fun. And oh, by the way, for the conspiracy theorist, first fight on the main card, no interview because it went the distance and they were afraid. Second fight on the main card, one question. I was allowed one question.

Third fight on the main card was Serrano winning in the second round. round and then I got to go longer because they thought it was going to go 10 because the majority of her fights as she's gone to three minute rounds have gone that way. So we got to ask more. And then of course, the main event was the main event. So just to let you know, it sort of is dictated by the length of these fights. So no questions, one question, et cetera, et cetera. But the Serrano fight was a big one for her. She was fighting someone named Cheyenne Hansen from Germany. Everything was cool. No, let's go to, could we go actually go. to the face-off first. Let's go to the face-off from Friday. Here's a picture of the face-off

from Friday. Cheyenne blew a bubble in Amanda's face, and everything changed. They were going back and forth. Amanda didn't like it. And she told me, in the interview at the Way-ins, the last time someone disrespecting me at the Way-ins, I finished them in the second round. All right? Here's the fight. Here's the action. Here's the second round. And you'll see in a matter of seconds, she finishes Cheyenne Hanson. Now, some people didn't like the stoppage. Not much was going on here. Come on. Not much was going. She wasn't flying back. She wasn't flying back. I mean,

there's one point, like, not much was going on. Amanda was fired up. Her team was fired up. McKee says you see was fired up as well. And here's what she told me after the fight regarding that second round prophecy. 49th pro win. But perhaps more importantly, you just tied Christy Martin's knockout record. I can break it the next one. I can do the 50th and break in the next one.

Let's go. That's the goal. Okay, so that was the important factoid about this. She ties Christy Martin 32 stoppages, ties her history of women's boxing. That's the record. And she gets her 49th pro win, so she's won away from 50. And she could break both on the same night. She could get to the 50 and she could break the record if she gets a stop.

of course. So a huge, huge deal. She was very emotional. She kept talking about the Knicks. She was wearing an orange and blue bracelet. It was amazing. Here's what she said about the prophecy. I do want to say thank you to my team. My trainer, obviously, Jordan Maldon, my sister and Jose. I want to say, happy birthday to Jose. And I want to bring him in because yesterday, he went and got a tattoo, and look what he got. He got a Cheyenne pepper with the number 32. He knew at the way, and he knows he does pads with me. He knows when I get upset. And he knows when Cheyenne blew that bubble in my face, something good was going to happen tonight.

How about that? So the 32 or the 32 knockouts, Cheyenne Pepper, her name is Cheyenne Hansen. Coach gets it the night before? That's like that dude that I saw that got 2025, 2026 NBA champs New York Knicks. Do you see that tattoo? Your algorithm is a feeding.

No, but that's risky. That dude got a tattoo and he did say, I've left a little bit of space. I could put Eastern Conference champions if need be. That's a horrible. I hate the hedge. I hate that. That's also a horrible thing, too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you need it pre? I don't know. Why does yourself do that? That's fucking crazy. Also, like the head shows you don't have that full confidence.

I mean, you got the thing. Can I just say? Can I just say? Yeah. If it doesn't happen, I know why. No, stop it. But the pepper, the Cheyenne Pepper, the Cheyenne Pepper and the 32 is pretty damn cool from my coach. Cheyenne?

Cheyenne Pepper. What did I say about the Ashlevats? I'm going to just say this for a second. Her nickname is Pepper. Yes. She's Cheyenne Pepper. Exactly. It's like a cayenne pepper, Cheyenne Pepper.

Cheyenne Pepper. Yeah, yeah. That's her nickname, yes. Go ahead, PT, yes? The Arsenal Farns. Remember you had to go drinking the Arsenal tears, the Mon City Fawn? This is what this tattoo feels like.

You can't get ahead of yourselves. Oh, I wasn't sure where you were going. You have to get yourself. You come into the finals of best of order, all right? Let's not fucking get ahead of ourselves here. You think some dude in Brooklyn who gets a tattoo is going to, like... You're messing with the cosmos. I like how Ariel asked that as if he doesn't believe some wacky-ass shit about...

The most superstitious guy on Earth. Yeah. Oh, you really think some guy in Brooklyn? Meanwhile, he'll be fucking flicking this switch and doing this in his house. If I take my glasses off, the New York Knicks going to run, I'm watching the rest of the game blind. Okay. I'm afraid to verbalize if you guys only knew the things that I've done over the course of the last month. I don't want...

I actually don't want to know. There's like at least five things that I've done that are very out of character that I now can't stop doing. That actually you guys see every day, but you don't realize that you see. Go ahead. No, I want to hear them. No, I don't want to hear them. I'll tell you at the end.

I'll tell you at the end. It coincides with the winning streak. You realize the last time they lost was April 23rd. You believe you are partially responsible for that. You and Dan Housen have saved the New York. But a guy in Brooklyn who got it, tatted on his ass or wherever. You cannot be responsible. Do you that?

Do you bitty? Right here. It was right here. Oh, on the forearm. Yeah, it's right on the forearm. Every time he shakes someone's hand. Here's my Nick's tattoo. If they don't win, it's going to be.

This dude is forever goaded if they actually do pull it off. But he could have gotten that tattoo after, and it would have been just as that confident. He's that confident. Yeah, that confident except for the... Dricken Terrace. At the Eastern Coverage Valley, get out of here.

All right, all right. Anyway, main event, highly controversial. Oh, boy, what a fight. Again, crowd was incredible. Crowd was unbelievable. Stephanie Hahn, local legend. She actually has a martial arts school. Her and her family.

Her dad, I believe, is from South Korea, immigrated to the United States, set up shop in El Paso. The fight was great. Back in January, they had a fight. It ended controversially. She got cut. And she was winning the fight,

and Holly didn't look good. Guys, in case you didn't see it, Holly looked amazing in this fight. This was the best version of Holly home. I was trying to think, I'm going down deep into her UFC run. We had not seen Holly look. I mean, she was incredibly fit. We talked about this last week with her.

But she was so aggressive and she went for it. There was none of this point fighting stuff. She went for it. She went for the win. And in the end, I thought she got the win, to be honest. I really did think it was clear. Right? I thought she did enough.

I don't know if it was because I was sitting there, right in the front. But like on TV, it seems like everyone thought she won. won, right? Everyone thought she won, which was... Other than the judges, which is the story of boxing forever, huh? Two judges. Well, all of the big moments in that fight were Holly Holmes. Yes.

I agree. Like, and it was dominance. Like, it felt like she was having moments. Early on it wasn't hers. Early on, Stephanie was doing the work. But then back into the fight, I thought it was all Holly. Two, three, four. I wasn't sitting there scoring it, but I kept going back.

I thought it was so obvious. I thought it was so obvious. When they read out the draw, I was like, oh, fuck, here we go. It's going to be a draw. And then the way he reads out the next guy, do you know that the next two people are in agreement. I'm like, wow, definitely Holly. And then they read out Han. I'm like, that is.

You could actually tell how pissed off Holly was in the aftermath because she couldn't even speak. She was like, I just can't believe this. I can't believe that they didn't have me winning this fight. And that's how I felt sitting at home. It was half four in the morning, though. No, you're right. Your assessment was right. I was lucky enough to speak to her afterwards.

Here's what she had to say. Holly, I see you're very upset. How are you feeling after that? Honestly, I feel like I won that fight, and I will say, that's okay. Aside from all the booze, my time here in El Paso, everybody has been great to me. So even aside from the booze, I appreciate El Paso and the hospitality here, but I feel I won the fight. Felt for her, she didn't deserve the booze. I don't know why they were booing her.

She got robbed. I guess she's saying she thought she won, and I know it was a very pro-Hon crowd, but she didn't deserve the boo. Yeah, that's it. They were pro-Hun. I know, I know. But you know what they robbed her of. You know what they robbed her of. She would have been the first person... Katie. Well, okay, she would have been the first person post being inducted into the boxing hall fame to win a belt. She would have been the second oldest women's champion of all time. And the big Katie fight. Now, I have a theory about that. I just want to say, I was in the back right after, I don't even know if she... She was so mad. I don't even know if she showered. I saw her wearing like her warm-up stuff. And she was leaving by foot. She was leaving. leaving the arena by foot, and then they called her back. She didn't want to go to the press conference or anything. And then they called her back and she eventually went. She was livid.

And they robbed her of history and they robbed her of a potentially big fight. Now, I feel PT. This is my feeling. First of all, let's just discuss. Katie Taylor, it seems like they are certain, like they have never been talking about this with such certainty before. Her at Croke Park, right? They've never talked about it with such certainty.

Here she is. She continues to hint. And I just feel like Katie isn't the type. to do all of this if it's not a real thing. Eddie has even gone as far as to attach a date to it, which is September 5th. So it feels like this is a real thing. Now, in an interview with IFL, he did say before the fight, before this Holly fight, that it's going to be one of her mandatories.

I say, screw all that. Who cares? If you're going to retire, just drop the belts and just pick your best option, your best opponent. And PT, I feel like given Holly's connection to Ireland, she has Irish heritage, she's a legend. Given the way she looked and the way she was screwed in that fight, I still feel like the fight is still there. I still feel like there's high demand for it. It's big enough. Look, we've said this before. Katie at Croke sells on its own right, right? Like her versus

you and I, it sells out. Add Holly to that, I think that's pretty big. I don't think she, in the moment I was like, wow, they stole the Holly fight from her. Excuse me, the Katie fight from her. I don't feel like they did. What do you think? do you think it's lost it's lost there? Yeah, I do. Look, Kay Taylor is the greatest female boxer of all time. She does not want to fight

anyone, and not to try and say Holly is a layout, but like, I mean, she lost a fight. On the record, there's a red mark beside that fight. It says she lost a fight. I thought she won it, but... But the world feels like she won. I know, but she didn't. Like, that's the reality situation.

Eddie Heron's speaking about this, though, he kind of he said the 75% chance it's happening which is crazy I've never heard him speak that positively about it but he's also seems to be hung up on the idea of this just not being the fight we've been talking about like just throw anyone in there he seems to be convinced that it has to be more than that it can't just be giving katie her farewell he said there has to be something on line there has to be something at stake it can't be just more of a run out in front of our home support so I think that probably eliminates hardly from the situation to be honest unless they're talking about going up and weight, something like that. I don't know.

I just, I feel like Holly's been robbed of that because that would have been perfect. That's a perfect layout. People in Ireland know who Holly home is. There was obviously that famous moment before UFC 189 with the Irish fans serenading her, which was absolutely brilliant.

And her whole family were getting on so well with the Irish that fight week. But yeah, I do feel that that's been obscured. So you think the Stephanie Hahn fight makes more sense? She got the quote-unquote win? I don't. I don't feel like that's what, No, no, listen, Katie Taylor wants to fight who has won for the fight.

Yeah. She is a sporting person. She's complete meritocracy. The fact that she's here and she's adored by so many people is kind of crazy because she's just that good. She never would. She had to move away from Ireland to have a normal life. Do you know what I mean? Like she is not interested in being a celebrity.

She just happens to be one. But she's all about the sport. Her whole life has been about sport and the right, you know, fighting the biggest dog in the yard, proving herself to be the best in the world. I don't think Holly Holm does that after her loss

even though I think she won the fight. That makes me even sadder about all this. I sort of convinced myself that she's the people's champion and Katie would want to do what's right,

so to speak. I mean, she may not fight either of them in the end. She may fight someone who's 140 pounds, who the hell knows. But I kind of feel like

that would be a great story. I'd like it. I just don't think, based on what I'm hearing from her and based on what I think, think I know about Katie. I just don't think it makes sense.

But I will say, if a man of Serano is looking for that record, she probably shouldn't fight Katie next. That's what I'm saying. Oh, no. They're not going to do that for a fourth time. No, they're not. Yeah, man. Why? Look at you with the fighting words. They're not going to do that for a fourth time, though. No. Why is that such an absurd thought?

The last one. The three fights were absolutely incredible. The last one was not. It was very, that was Katie Taylor won that fight. Fairly. Kay Tyler won every fucking fight. Yeah, also, she's, and it's all bullshit. I agree. I thought she won first and third definitively. Second is a little bit more controversial, but I don't think...

Look, again, it would sell out, but I'd like to see Katie fight someone else. I don't want to see her fight four times. Who? Chantal Cameron? Who? Chantal Cameron? No. No.

I love that. But Cameron's, I think, going to fight someone higher. There's rumors of her versus Michaela Mayer at 154 pounds. No, I say Holly Home. Do the Holly Home fight. That's the one. I'm with PT. It doesn't make any sense anymore.

She's one and two in the boxing return. She's losses her to Han. She looked great. Katie Taylor is not getting a legends fight on the way out. She's still the queen. Why? It's the retirement fight. I know, but she's still Katie Taylor.

It's not. And I don't think Holly is the one on the way out. On the way, who it's like, let's give her one for the road. Katie is not in that point in her career. Katie is still Katie. All right. What about Holly Home versus Gina Carrano? Hell yeah.

sold. Gina Carrano posting this after the fight. In boxing or MMA? MMA. I've got tears on this one. I look up to Holly Holmes so much. This is her reacting to the post-fight press conference. I deeply admire her.

She's the hardest working female athlete I've ever been around. For a moment, by the way, Gina did train at Jackson Wink when she was considering a comeback. This is back in like 11. She's humble, honest, happy. I feel like people don't truly know all that she's accomplished in boxing and MMA because she doesn't show it off. She has more of a quiet.

its straightforward disposition when it comes to showing up to fight. She lets the fight speak for themselves, and then she's fun and playful in her everyday life as she turns into the female version of Tim Allen from Home Improvement. Holly doesn't do drama, and she tells it how it is. So to see her showing her heart here means a lot. She's being very vulnerable and beautifully honest on how she feels. A lot of people agree.

Last night was a hard fight to score, two very different styles. I really like Stephanie Hahn as well. She's smooth, slick, and calm. So congrats to her on a great fight as well. We love you, Holly. As a friend and fan, it's always an honor to watch you, your legend. So I don't, I mean, I'm not suggesting for a second that she's calling her out there, but it did kind of like spark, like, hey, maybe these two fighting each other. I don't know if there's a market for that. But that would be certainly interesting. I do kind of feel like I want to see Gina one more time because I want to let her actually show us what she, what she did in training for that fight against Rhonda. But let's see. Holly be a great opponent for that because she'll stand and strike with her. They'll be able to actually strike and then we'll actually see. Holly has dusted off the old wrestling

shoot. I know, but I think you'd have to kind of assume that she's going to go in there to have a scrap, right? 100%. She is right, though. I mean, Holly is truly one of the greatest fight.

To be a boxing hall of famer, to have the UFC career that she had, and then to come back and still compete against someone who's younger than her, and I think win, pretty damn impressive. Extremely impressive.

Yeah. Incredible ambassador for the sport. Yeah, and if we're just going to do a retirement fight, do Kay Taylor v. Ronda Rozy, box a match. Who gets a fuck then?

You know what I mean? you know what Holly's a boxing Hall of Fame I'm in for it I'm in for it Let me see it Here you are talking

Meritocracy You're talking what's right And you're gonna have No he said if you just want to fulkin If we're just gonna do it Fokin do Ronda then Rhonda won her last fight And Ronna pissed off a lot of people

With the cleaning her clock comment Right All of a sudden Exactly It's tough to swallow You lost to her last time out And it's just like I would clean her clock

If we fought again But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that to it. The boxing world wants its pound of flesh, and Katie Taylor will deliver it. I do think, by the way, I do think there's a part of Rondo's like, I'm not going to gift her this. Same with the cyborg, right?

Gift Holly? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Hmm. I don't think Ronda would gift Holly the payday. Holly won. Interesting. I know, but...

Cyborg, I get. Because she has some kind of moral, you know, objection. Look at the fire that comes out when she's talking about her. and the history that they had. That's just my interpretation. But she gets one back. I know, but if she wins it, she gets one back. If she wins or she goes down on two.

Right. So that was Saturday. El Paso was great. And then yesterday afternoon, a Sunday afternoon card in Torino, Italy. Clash in Italy. What was the highlight, guys? What would you say it was the highlight? I didn't see a second of it.

You tell me. I did. Sol Ruka. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right. Went in the belt, baby. It's always Solvary. Lynch. Yeah, welcome to the Ruka air.

What? What? What? You're upset about this? Yeah, it's Becky. Ah, sorry, Pizzi. Yeah, no, this is big. We're a soul squad on this program. Yeah, this is a Sol Ruka program. We're all about Sol Ruka. Speak Fier's. Boyce. Speak for us. Well, what's the finisher called again? Soul snatchers. Oh, yeah. Man, I think it's freaking great. Have you seen this, PT? She's on the robes and she flips and then she does a flip into

like a cutter. It's crazy. I saw it. I was mesmerized. I had to watch it back six times. Yeah. That's who I get into bed every night. Same thing Yeah What else happened Roman rains won tribal combat It was a hot crowd

Every time they go to Europe These crowds are great Oh shout out Shout to scary movies Can I have to go see that this weekend Is it coming out this weekend Yeah a little nostalgia play Man look at Roman

Some glass of milk Is he not Glass of milk I think we gotta retire The glass of milk thing I think we gotta put that one to bed I'm pretty sure it's a tall drink of water No

Yeah it is a tall drink of water The glass of milk keep it it's not hitting I tell you once scary movie talk one time I love it

I'm googling it I have dude as a teenager and I went to see scary movie through my friend Jack and we laughed so much because of the

the enhancements we were under that they kicked us out after 15 the narcotic have even fucking started like we were just gone and something happened

when them scream ass popped up and everyone around us was like fuck you and we're like no I get it completely get it sorry can't control myself

scary movie's a a fun experience in the theater. Five? No, he said three. Oh. What one is this? Yeah, yeah. This is like six or seven?

Seven. It's been so long since they made one that they're just calling it scary movie again. Oh, for real? That long. It's been a long time. It's starting all over again. Charlie Sheen was starring in the last couple. Yo, that last Charlie Sheen won't have me rolling when they did War of the World.

This is the one with the Wayne's brothers, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I googled Glass of Milk term of Endearment. Yeah. Yeah. I found a definition. Well, wait, I've never actually seen this before.

Okay. Glass of milk is not a recognized traditional term of endearment. Yeah, no shit. How about this? I've never seen this part. Instead, you are likely thinking of the slang phrase, tall glass of water. I've never heard them actually guess what you meant. They correct.

Oh, yeah. Which describes a very physically attractive person. Milk on its own is usually actually an insult. Is tall glass of water just not a tall person? I've told some ugly motherfuckers. Why did I think it's a tall glass of milk? It's more an attraction. thing. It's more a beauty thing. I'm finding

tall glass of milk as you to describe a particularly tall white woman with long sculpted legs and a brick house body. What the fuck is a brick house buddy? Who doesn't think of Roman Raines? That's what I think of. I just thought it was like a very... What is a brickhouse buddy? Good looking person. Like Bill. Pizzi,

like Bill. Like you're a brick house. You're built. You know? Like a brick house. Yeah. It's it's the aesthetic version of that. You guys still got brick shit houses in Ireland? Yeah. There's someone named Lee.

My own one is a brick shillows. Lee L-A-A-O-U-U-Score who tweeted on January 13th, 2019. What does it mean when someone says you're looking like a tall glass of milk? No engagement on this tweet. No, not a single like. And then his next tweet is, I ran into Aria-Hawani at the supermarket. This comes up. And he told me I look like a tall glass of milk.

Oh, wait, wait, wait. Tall glass of milk. Drusky said it. Damn, you a tall glass of milk. of milk. Who was he saying it about? It's an Instagram video. You're, damn, you're tall, oh, to a girl.

Is she a tall white woman? He said this to a 6-7, 285 pound Cuban woman. Oh. Sculpted legs, brick, shithouse body. All right, so, yeah, it's good. Just keep calling Roman Marines a glass of milk. It's all right, all right. Shout to Roman.

He's a freaking legend. So that was your weekend, guys. That was your weekend. But it doesn't stop there. Oh. It doesn't stop there. All kinds of news. has transpired.

First of all, let me just say earlier today in London, the highly anticipated Anthony Joshua versus Christian Pranga fight had their kickoff press conference and they had a faceoff, and the faceoff was actually a little bit spicy. It was actually not too bad. I think we have it.

You can win now? Okay. Pranga, by the way, has done some media and in the media. I don't know if he said it at the press conference. he has actually referenced what Lou Debella has said on this show about the fight. So apparently it did not sit too well with him. It did not sit too well.

So they have this fight. It's coming up July 25th. This is a return of AJ. Eddie Hearn did say, if he loses, I know this is part of the cell, right? This is part of the cell. But he did say if he loses, Fury fight off, obviously, right? I mean, if we're talking about the home Katie Taylor fight off, being off. Why?

Why? If Prangha knocks out AJ? Yeah, who gives a fuck? What? You guys just said the home Taylor fight is off because she lost. Because neither of those guys are Katie Taylor. Katie Taylor is still Katie Taylor. Katie Taylor holds belts, no?

Wait, wait. You think that you can actually do the AJ Fury fight if he loses to- No problem. No, I do disagree with that. Why? If he gets sparked out by Christian-Bringer? Who cares? Who gives a fuck?

Why does anybody care about what the... I can't believe this. This is such shit It will be so shit at that level Oh god It's already shit It's already shit What is wrong with you guys

These guys are no good anymore They are not champions anymore This is not This is not the fight that we were promised Five years ago Was poetry in motion against MacMov Oh Jesus Christ Dude

These guys are all They're no no no You're not gonna convince me That like Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua Are the product that we were sold That they were five years ago When this fight actually matter They're not bad

So who cares If he gets knocked out It's a different fucking... Oh, God. It's sparked out as a minus 4,000 to a guy that no one... Why? Who gives a shit?

Netflix is going to be into that? Yes. It's still Tyson Fury and it's still Anthony Joshua. We have to stop pretending that we care about their records. Anthony Joshua's a bum to everybody every week. He just beat Jake Paul. It doesn't matter.

No, this is nonsense. He's arguably more popular now than he ever was. Great. So why is one loss going to stop that? If some guy who's relatively unknown. This knocks him out in shocking fashion. Let's be honest.

They should have just fucking done it when they had the chance. They should have done it. You know, if my aunt had a, whatever, she'd be my uncle, you know? I don't understand that expression. What does that mean? Like a tall glass of milk. This, speaking of milk, everyone had a shot and shit.

Speaking of milk, this fight is rotten milk already. Like, it is way past its expiration date. Who gives a shit if it's even more past this expiration date? Just do it. Do it because you promised us you do it. and we've been for 10 years waiting for you to fucking do it. I don't care a lick if either one of them loses. Because we know Tyson Fury is going to get another warm-up fight,

and he might lose that one too. Hell, maybe they both lose, and then we can finally do it. I'm so sick of this nonsense. The Fury Warma fight annoys me because he got his warm-up fight, and he's like, we need another one. There's nothing to protect here. Rick is just sick of having his balls tickled. 100%.

Their records don't matter. He's lying. If he gets fucking colded by Christian Pranga, he's not going to be like, Come on, fear. No, because I'm not going to be like this anymore anyway. The time to do it was when they were both relevant. Now they are on the downside.

They are not irrelevant right now. This the dude who said Conrad v. Chris Buoyang was his most anticipated fight. And it delivered. Enail it. But that fight was past his expiration as well. It was three years past. Yes, we had been tickled about that one for three years. Well, Connor Ben couldn't fight.

What would you do about that? I just want to say, some say he still can't. If AJ got knocked out. If AJ got knocked out, if AJ got knocked out, and then they booked it, I don't think they will. Totally fine. I would still be excited. Yes, that's my point.

I would be considerably less excited. Yeah, guess what? I'm considerably less excited to the first time they teased it. I don't even think that they'll do it. I think Netflix will be out. I think so, too. I agree. I don't get it.

I don't get that. Anyway, here's the face off. Is Jake Paul's next fight going to not be as big because he lost? It's not Jake Paul. It's not Jake Paul. It's not Jake Paul. It's not Jake Paul. They are entertainers now.

He's fighting. He's fighting this guy. It's the inverse of that, bro. Jake Paul got knocked out by him. Oh, hang on a second. I think he has a chance. I think he has a chance after seeing this. Oh, he's fucked.

Nah, he's fucked. You guys are crazy. AJ's got aura. Look at AJ. Is that aura? That's aura right there. He's hiding his fear of going to those glasses. Talk about a tall glass of milk.

I mean, AJ not too far off. Let's be honest. From who, Roman? Roman's the gold standard. Oh, he's not afraid. He's not afraid. He's looking him. Straight down the pipe.

Nah, look at the smirk. He's laughing. He's laughing. Let's also just. honestly now. Contempt. This guy was in a car accident which killed two of his best friends.

He almost died as well. Just the fact that he's able to fight, he's all good, is remarkable. I have no issues with this fight, by the way. I know everyone was all up in arms. He deserves the tune-up

if he wants one. Obviously, we'd love to see the fight. But under these circumstances, God bless him, I hope it all works out and he's okay. And if he does do what he is expected to do, the Fury fight's going to be huge. Rick, Fury is one fight removed

from fighting Alexander Usik. Yeah, in which he lost. Yeah, it was very close. fight. He was a close fight. So the same excuse you're now making about him losing is the same reason I'm telling you if Anthony Joshua

loses, nobody cares. What? Clinic against Mahmoudov. Clinic. Yeah, it was a Alexander Ousick is not the same as getting sparked by Christian Prangas. It is because nobody cares about their records. This is not a fight for supremacy.

They are not the best heavy weights in the world. They're pretty close still. No, they're not. They are not the best heavyweights in the world. Who is the true king of England? That's what the fight is for. That's something. I mean, most of the Tama. And by the way, yeah, Otama, Daniel Dubois.

Like, this is not about records. This is not about records. It has nothing to do with records. The time for that was years ago. The time when you could have said Tyson Fury was the best heavyweight of our generation and he's going to finally fight AJ and we're going to see if AJ can do it on the big stage. That's gone. That does not exist anymore.

That narrative is done. this is now, we were promised this fight, we're finally going to get it. It's Mayweather Pachia. It is past its shelf life, but I'm still interested in it. So just fucking give it to me. I don't care if he loses. He's not going to lose, but I don't care if he does. Just give me the fight.

I was owed it. You have to admit, I understand that you'd want it. I would be like, this guy is so gone past his prime. It's over. You have to admit, you'd be a little less interested. Barely. If any, barely. You seem being knocked out by a minus.

So what? I've seen any. AJ knocked out before. I don't care. Yeah, but it was a long time ago. Was it? Was it against Daniel Dubois, the heavyweight champion? Yeah, it was like, by the way, this fight happened, it's like three years or something, whatever it is.

Three, two years? It does not matter. It does not matter. I was on the Amalfi Coast, watching them by the pool. Now, September. In November of Joshua. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a great fight.

Yeah, but that's Daniel Dubois. It's different when you're getting knocked out by Daniel Du Bois. So you're making my point, which is there will always, you can always come up with some excuse and let's just do the fight. Get knocked out by someone who's plus four. Listen, by the way, this all started with me saying that Eddie said it. Eddie said it. I don't agree with him.

He loses the fights off. Can we roll the clip? Do we have the Eddie here in clip? I don't think we have it. I just saw it. I don't agree with him at all. The appetite for this is going to be exactly the same because everybody wants to see this fight. It does not matter.

They don't need to do these tune-ups. Nobody cares about these fights. The only reason that they're doing them is to be the stepping stone to the fight that we actually want to see. People will still want to see it. Just do it. Don't care, win, lose whatever. I don't think Netflix wants to shell out money.

Well, that's the Netflix aspect I can't speak to, because they're going to have to make decisions for business. That's the most important aspect. The fight doesn't happen without Netflix. Netflix would say, thanks, but no thanks. You can have this to zone. Enjoy. Netflix would say that because what? Because this is not going to do.

So if, okay, let me ask you this as a hypothetical. Anthony Joshua gets absolutely blasted by this dude, right? Yeah. Christian Pranga. After that fight, they say, AJ's team, Eddie Hearn says, we're still willing to do the Fury. fight if they're willing to do it. Fury's team says we're willing to do it. Netflix says no because this is going to what? Do worse viewership than Tyson Fury's warm-up? The stock has gone down. The price isn't the same. We're not paying for this. So what if they're willing to pay a

lesser sum? No, you guys could have it on DeZone. DeZone comes in. Well, fuck, then lucky for DeZone because they'd get a huge number. This is a bigger fight because it's on Netflix. Do you not agree? It is, but it's also a bigger fight than a Tyson Fury warm up on Netflix. Oh, 100%. Even if Anthony Joshua has blown snobbles, it's a bigger fight. Look, you can spin it. If he came off a loss and he's fighting fear and you're like, this is the way he bounces back. You can obviously spin anything,

but you do have to admit the luster is a little bit off if he's getting knocked out. Sure, it'd be great if they were both winning their last five fights, but they're not. They're damaged goods. And according to Eddie, if I'm reading what he said correctly, there might be something in there that says the fight is off if he loses. Well, that's silly. What does that mean for Pringle?

in terms of like maybe he gets the Fury fight okay here's the question are you more interested in Christian Pranga that's my point that's my point the wins and losses don't matter with this fight

I want Prangha the wins and losses do not matter Pranga Usen that's the one revolving way for GC or maybe it's RICO versus Prango

then we're twisting ourselves into knots to talk about these Pringle bro I'm there about those wins and losses they don't matter careful with your Pringle comments I got a message

from his manager after Debella he was not too happy so uh They're listening. They're listening. Maybe not today because they're at the press conference. They had the opportunity to shock the world at the end of July. July 25th, to be exact.

All right. Let's see. Petey, by the way, wanted to ask if you were interested, if I could interest you in this, you know, World Cup fever is hitting these shores. If this is a fuck in England, like... No, it's not. All right, okay. I want to know if you're interested in this because the UFC is known for its merch.

Ah, fuck off. Do we have this? here we go. It's the UFC Global Affinity Collection. The Canada kid is not too bad, right? What are they doing here? They're all fucking terrible. It looked like NASCAR jerseys, like someone in the picker would wear.

Loki, I don't mind. What do you think? As our merch connoisseur, G.C., what do you think of these? The Canada is kind of fired. The Canada was it. It looks like a box of cigarettes. With the leaves? Are you kidding me? You put that same exact design on a World Cup jersey. Everyone's like, gas. That's so far.

Adidas cooked here, bro. Adidas cooked. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think that's right. Same with the Spain as well. Why do you think they did this? A Canadian one is damn near the Canadian hockey jersey at. Yeah. Do you think they did this? Like, here's my guess. Do you think that the fighters are going to be wearing these during the World Cup? Like, do you think they're going to make the fight? You know, because they seem to do that. They give them the merch, the cool baseball jersey. Why only the six teams?

Maybe, you know, Teporia, Spain is a hobby. Maybe they'll have them wear it because it's during the World Cup. Of course, who could forget the other line of merch that they came out with recently that has had everyone going Gaga. We already said that we were going to get PT this number right here. These are so sick. You know what, don't get it for me because I'd be afraid someone from Blanchard would want that badly that they might nois me on the street to take it off me back. Yo, Pizzi, you sleeveless basketball jersey with this flat bill on is a fucking fit, dude. You pull up to Vegas wearing that. You pull up to Vegas wearing that, it's a wrap.

The strip is getting shut down. Can you picture Pizzi walking around the strip of Vegas with the tall drink there? You know that big drink? It's a giant frozen drink. I'm talking cargo shorts, flip-flops, sleeveless basketball jersey, flat brand. There he is. Pizzie Carroll, everybody. Oh, my God.

I'm pretty sure I've dressed like that on the script, just of my own volition a few times. That's what we're doing every 40 hands in. Oh, my God. I can't wait forever 40 hands so much. I'm going to fuck. I think I'll be with the greatest competitors of all time in the sport. Well, it's not a sport. It's just an activity.

You're going to smell like beer for five days. I'll drink the beer in four minutes. Are you going to be fucking over. Frankie 40 ants? Where are you guys doing this? Where are you guys doing this? On the show. We haven't decided.

How much? How much is in each hand? 40 ounces. 40 ounces, brother. What's that in liters? I got the math. I got the math. Here we go.

Please, please. It's a liter. 40. That's 1.18 liters. I'll be finished this in 10 minutes. 1.18 in each hand? You'll be done 10 minutes. I'll be finished this in 10 minutes. 80 ounces?

Yeah. That's like 6.5 beers. I have no doubt in my mind. By the way, as an aside, yesterday, you guys ever hear about an ice cream place called Elaboratorio de Gelato? No. Yeah, yeah. One of the all-time best.

Guinness ice cream yesterday I had. Incredible. I've actually had Guinness ice cream before. It's great. It's incredible. Can I just say something? Is it ice cream or gelato? Well, whatever.

The best Guinness crossover you can get, apart from the drink, of course. The best crossover is brown bread made with Guinness. It's fucking unbelievable. Wow. Oh, wait. That's sort of like what you made. Yeah, the Guinness cupcakes, right? I make cupcakes.

I make cupcakes. Close. He's talking about savory bread. Sure. such a frank comment by the way Is it Jolato or is it ice cream? Same, same. You had to throw that in there?

By the way, could I just say, Frank to celebrate this birthday over the weekend. I mean, it's three hours in. Did not know that. Happy birthday, Frank. Thank you, Petez. Interesting that you say you didn't know that because in the group chat, which includes you, Peecee,

I did say, happy birthday, Frank. And I noticed that not a single other person weighed in. Did you notice that, Frank? No, they all message me individually. Oh, so I, So here I was... You were actually the latest one.

Well, I was over in El Paso two hours back. It was a bit performative to rub our noses in it. You know, you were just like... No. I was actually trying to be a good friend by reminding everyone. I do a little sneaky reminder. No, no, sneaky. Why don't you just text them individually?

Why do you need to do it for a show for everybody else? It's not a show. I thought it was a nice gesture. So I have multiple, like, parent group chats, different, you know, grades, kids, whatever. And I'm consistently the first... I text the group. happy birthday because I have everyone's birthday and so I'll look at my calendar at beginning of the day

and I like to sort of do that to one up all the other dads. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so I was trying to do that. That's what I'm saying. It felt like you were kind of putting us down? It wasn't down. We had already sent the text. So Frank, in terms of like timing, break it down. Who was first? Oh, Jesus. Andy and her husband both individually.

You got a husband text? Yeah. He's a friend of mine. They game a lot. They game a lot. Okay, so wait. What was it? Like, it was like you could tell it was a plan thing like we're going to get this. for right at 1201. Oh, they did it. They were awake at Total 1? That's Luke.

That's a little. That's actual Louvre. Wait, was it a planned text? You could schedule text now. No, this was... Why, you can't? I didn't know that. We were sitting next to each other,

and we were like, are you going to say that? I'm going to say this. Huh. Who got it in there first, Frank? I read Andy's first because usually those are... More important? Okay. Okay, so Andy wins.

Wow, 1201 is crazy. But, you know, in my defense, that's 1001 previous day in El Paso. Then it was Rick saying, I've seen some unauthorized. credit card transactions, happy birthday, but we need to talk and rain and send. Followed by Jordan, sent a very hard message. Wait, Rick said happy birthday? Rick told me he never said happy birthday.

Josh Merkowitz actually sent. He said, what kind of coffee do you want on Monday? It's on me. Intern Josh? Intern Josh. Okay. Josh's the fucking legend, isn't he? Let's be good. Petey sent me a drunken audio message asking if I wanted to do some narcotics for my birthday. Okay, okay. I feel like you're not telling us the truth here, Frank. I actually- Why would you ask me a question? I've given you the truth. And then Ariel wrote his message. It was a nice little cherry on top.

I really thought. Of a birthday Sunday. Is it not true, though, Frank, that I also sent you a private one? You did. You sent a private one. Wow. Yeah, so I doubled up. Wait, which one was first?

The public of the private one was first. Wow. So you're trying to remind us after you already said. Oof. Then the public. This is nasty. In Ariel's fairness. So this is a.

competition. Yeah, that's Nance. It's 100% of competition. By the way, this happens a lot where people are like, oh, well, no one told me it was so-and-so's birthday. So what Ariel did was the right thing. Like, you're basically just indicating to everyone in case you didn't know. We all have things going on.

This is somebody's birthday today. Frank's lying. I didn't text them at all. I will not be texting any of you. I've opted out of the bullshit happy birthday texting. This was established many years ago. I will not be participating. Hope you all have a great birthday, but there will be no text coming.

But yet you want to text. No. Don't text me. me. Don't give a flying fuck. Do not text me. Don't text me, period, but definitely not on my birthday. For those just tuning in, this is my supervisor. Wow, wow, wow, wow, well, listen, I was trying to help everyone out. Should I have done the... I don't think you were right. No, I don't think you were. Oh, you were. You were not trying to help anybody out. You text them. You text them, man. Wow. I thought... He texted me 30 seconds ago.

Oh, he did. Pizzi's nothing but honest. I thought at least I'd get a double tap on my message. It was just my subtle way of reminding everyone. but I guess you had already I responded to it No good deed No good deed Me and Frank would roll

A rundown of his plans All in person You know Wow Yeah TWA hotel All that stuff Damn so you knew to

Everybody but Jordan Huh We texted Damn Yeah Poor Jordan Yeah I'm the one that looks

closest To the TWA Hotel didn't invite Do we need to discuss Everything Yes Yes we do What did

You want him to You want him to hang out With you On his birthday Well he invited Everyone else It sounds like He didn't invite me.

He made it clear he was going. There was no invitation. I didn't expect an invitation. No. I wasn't have gone. I thought he was going to demand us all be there. Jesus. Well, he did say, we're going to go see sheep detect is in the front row.

Front row only. But I missed it on that one. Now, Pizzi, he's only demanding that we all go to dinner tomorrow. Some of us are going. Some of us aren't. That's going to be another one of magical memories. Yeah. Just bring some of that bread with you when you come to Vegas, Pizzi.

I will. Somebody just texted me happy birthday. Wow. A little early. Cheeky. Very cheeky. Two months early to the day, yeah? Yes.

I do hope it was a great weekend for you, Frank. We were all thinking of you, despite the fact that some of us didn't text. In hindsight, I'm thinking, you know, retroactively I was thinking of me. The UFC did officially announce the bout order for the White House card. And so here it is. Wait for it. There it is. Ilya versus

Justin Gaei, obviously. Alex Perr versus Therogun, obviously. Sean O'Malley versus Aymus Aobby?

I'd say obviously. Did you just put the rest of the card? Nope. Here it goes. This is an M.U.P. We call this in the business. Josh Hockett

versus Derek Lewis. This is not an Mupy. This is Josh Hocan versus Derek Lewis as the fourth fight. That's pretty high up above Maristio Hoofee versus Michael Chandler.

And then it's Bo Nicco versus Kyle Dachus. And then it's Diego Lopez versus Steve Garcia. So Diego Lopez versus Steve Garcia, in the end, will be the first fight at the White House. This all makes sense to me. Yeah.

And there was a part of me that thought maybe they'd kick it off with Hokka and Lewis. I like that. Instant fireworks, you know. I don't know if Trump's going to be in his seat by then, and he's obviously got to see Derek Lewis's favorite fighter. It's a great point. They have started the build, my friends. They have started the build. We do have some photos.

There's the world famous ellipse. And there it is. It's coming together. It looks pretty sick. Do you think that's a screen or do you think that's a picture? Yeah, I can't tell. But it looks pretty similar to the renderings that we've been shown. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. In fact, look at this. Wow. They're going to get some sick shots. Oh, my God. I was actually talking to a friend of ours who's a photographer who's going to be working the event and he was telling me about the things that they have planned. And I was like, wow, like you are going to get some legendary iconic shots.

Yeah. And by the way, if you're just walking down the street like that, Do you think you'll be able to watch? No, I don't know. I hope they don't like put up walls and stuff. I just, I still, I was one of the biggest doubters. I can't believe it's happening. It's amazing.

It was the great Michael Beasley, by the way, who first broke the news of these renderings. He was at the apex for that brand risk event. And in case you want to get like a 3D model view of it, here's Michael Beasley's POV. He was on one of those. streams oh yeah I'm trying to like show that this is a model and he saw it he was there at the apex and he saw this thing that looked exactly yeah you can put it down yeah here we go this is it that's how it's gonna look looks pretty damn close it looks great looks pretty damn close look at Beasley breaking the news

I realize how big this is yep referring to the model or is you referring to the event itself? Is this an event for ants? You know these big jumbo screens? Yeah. I'm pretty sure those ones over here the side are bigger than these. Yeah. Oh, I thought, you know what?

I actually thought he meant like how big this is, like how big of a deal it is. The occasion. That's what I'm saying. Was he referring to how big of a deal of the event is? No, the screens. It was talking about the screen. Yeah, just the renderings. We mentioned this to Action Bronson, but Ilya did post

Well, actually it was part of the promo And then he posted the pictures The promo we can't play But the promo was actually really good Did you guys see the promo? The promo was really good Ilya with the White Rose They played the promo on the McCau card

That you watch from top to bottom. Yeah, it's incredible It's actually a really good promo But here he is walking At first I thought he was in the White House But I don't know where he is here No, this is not the White House This looks like somewhere it's been

Yeah Somewhere, okay so you've got the picture You know, the Philom Casablanca is just the White House Is that what that means? Yeah. Yeah, but it's in Morocco. It's in Morocco, not about the actual White House. My mind is fucking...

Casa Blanca is the capital of Morocco. Yeah, yeah. It's a place. Yeah, yeah. It's a city. Wait, but... Just one word, Casablanca. What are you trying to say, Pizzi?

You didn't put two and two together? Is there a white gaffe in Casablanca that everyone's jumping up and down about? It's the name of the city. Yeah, it's the name of the city. Boy! But I guess in, like, the translation is White House. Is Casablanca said in Morocco? Yeah, it's about the, like, it takes place in Morocco, yeah.

I'm almost 100% sure. Frank, can you confirm? Never seen it. You're cultured. Came out in 1942. Oh, it's legendary. Who's in that? I'm a free poker.

French Morocco back in the day. Yeah, man. Hell yeah. What do you think of the white rose? I mean, actually have a good point. The red is more severe, you know what I mean? I have further updates, Casa Blanca, not the capital of Morocco. So whoever said that was

Wildly incorrect I don't think I said that Rabat is the capital of Morocco I think you said that GC did you not I didn't say that I didn't say that

I think you did I think I just said it was a city and then someone was like the capital it was the capital of Morocco I think it was Frank I like the White Roe I take whatever

you have to give to me let's go yeah that's one of the great ones I like the White Rose I actually hated it but like I liked it a lot White Rose White House

you're gonna be taking a nap in the garden Like that's... Oh my gosh, yes. The guy's got lines for days, man. I can't waste. Oh, my gosh. They did build up the Gaichi part of it

really well in that promo. You know, American... Thank God that he's a part. Could you imagine if Patty would have won that fight, would we have had four non-Americans in the top two fights? Yeah, I don't know. That'd be tough.

So it's good for the cell. And in the end, I think they ultimately just care about the cell. I think I've come to that conclusion. They don't really care about the result. It is kind of wild that it's going to play out this way. way if in fact it does play out this way. But I think that they've, I mean, I think it's going to be

huge. What that number is going to be, I'm fascinated. And they still haven't laid out, you know, where is it going to air the pre-show? Are they going to have any of it? I don't know. I'm curious to see how it all plays out. I know our next guest is curious to see how it all plays out. He will not be the backup fighter, though. This has been, this has been made very clear. I think people were confused. I tried to clear it up, but it's, it's clear when it comes from him. Anyway, busy as per usual at RAF this past weekend and he's going to be back at RAF in like two weeks time actually the day before the white house card which is in less than two weeks 12 days from now he's the great armatrucian the batman the cowboy batman back on the program yeah there he is

hello armin how are you hello hello i'm good how are you it's great to see you again congratulations on the win this past weekend mugsy thank you so much thank you did he piss you off A little bit. He pushed you. Yeah, he pushed me, but for no reason, you know, after whistle. And then I showed him a little bit headbutt, like, listen, don't do that. Light like headbut, you know, to understand that don't do anything after a whistle. And then you dominated him.

As far as, like, your opponents in RAF, it felt to me, you tell me, felt like this was one of your easier matches. Would you agree? Lens Palmer was easier. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah, I didn't give any points to Lens. Sure, but I don't know. It felt like you were kind of just,

you were doing whatever you wanted. You were coasting out there. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So if you see, like, Lance Palmer, he's two times NCAA champion, and he has a,

big background from freestyle wrestling from wrestling. But Maxi, he's a bigger name. And yeah, he's like a YouTube wrestler, you know. And then you flew home with him. Was that your idea? No, he came to me after wrestling. And he said, bro, I'm from who would never fly private jet. And I said, okay, let's fly tomorrow morning.

And he said, I got to work tomorrow morning. I'm making money. tomorrow and said, okay, we take care of you, and just jump in with us, and yeah, we just we take care of you. So you just hung out with him on the plane after beating him. Yeah, he was super excited, happy. Look at this, yeah, he filmed it.

He was going nuts. We were trying to figure this out, Armand. The RAF thing has been so good for you. I mean, you're competing every couple of weeks. And I'm curious, maybe you don't answer the question, maybe you do, but I want to ask, How many RAF matches equals one UFC for you? With money?

Yeah. Depends who I'm wrestling with. Oh, it's different. Yeah, every time it's different. So is Colby the biggest one? Colby is going to be the biggest one. So far? Yeah, but we're still like, we're still talking.

What? But they announced it. No, no, no. We announced, yeah, we've wrested. We got that, but I want an extra bonus. Oh, so what do you want? What are you asking for? For a little bit bonus that I can't fly a private jet after the Colby to Europe. Okay.

Are you going to go back home finally? Yeah, I want to go home for one, two weeks and then come back because I want to whoop some asses here, American wrestler. Meaning Colby, right? No, after Colby, I got one more name. Oh, really? Who's that? Who's that?

It's a secret, yeah. Okay, would it be for RAF? Yeah, it's RIF, yeah. So there's one more guy on your list. Yep. And then would you say you're stopping and focusing on MMA? Depends when I'm fighting. Okay.

Yeah, today on my YouTube, I say, I might fight in September, and everybody posts Armana is officially fighting with, and I said, I might fight this guy, it was Oliver because, you know, you never know, and I said, I might feed him too. And like, people just start imposing that I'm fighting with him. Okay, so clear it up. That's not official? No, not official.

Like, I didn't say, like, 100% I'm going to fight him. I said I might fit him as well. Okay, this was just you saying what could happen. Yeah, it could happen, you know, everything. But my fight can be in September, October, December, you know, you never know. Maybe next year, who knows what you see who wants to do and who, uh, who I'm fighting next. Yeah, it's a winner of Tapuia and Geji,

and if it's Tapuia, probably and then this year, if it's Gajit, September, maybe October. Okay, and why is that? Why would Gai Chi be before Tuporia by so many months? No, if Gaju wins this fight. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, why would be,

why would, why would you say like he would be September, October, and Tupori would be back into the year? Because Gajir, he fights two, three times a year, so. Okay. but Tupuya once a year. Do you think there's any scenario where he could pull this off, Gaiji?

I don't know. I don't think so. It's like 10 days left or 14 days left, you know. No, I mean, pull off the upset. Oh, yeah, of course. You never know. Yeah. When he fought first time with Rafael Fisiv, they thought, like,

oh, young, the striker going to knock him out. but he went there and like and won you know you never know Gajie is an old experienced guy that sometimes has a

surprise like he did last fight as well fair to say though you're probably rooting for Ilya that's the bigger fight in your opinion I don't know we'll see I want to bet against him you want to bet against him what's that it's like a big

his big underdog you know so that's why it's it's good to put some money on him meaning geichi yeah on gauging but as far as your career who you want to face

I would imagine you want the Ilya fight right if Justin wins that screws it up yeah only ilia because it's a bigger fight he's talking too much and uh it's good when two young fighters fight with each other.

Of course. I say that that's one of the biggest fights in the UFC right now. Do you agree? You versus Ilya. 100%. I think it's bigger than you versus Islam. Right now, yes. Right?

Because we have a beef between us, you know, but. Is there any chance you'll be, I know you're competing June 13th. Is there any chance you'll be there June 14th? If they let me in, so I'll go there. Have they invited you? No. As of right now, they haven't offered you anything. You have no idea what the situation is.

The situation is on the backup for this fight. If something happened, I'm going to fly there and make the wait and weigh in and fight. Okay, so good to clear that up. When Dana said backup, I think a lot of people thought that you are actually going to weigh in. You're only going to weigh in if you have the fight officially, right? Yes. Is there a cutoff? They didn't ask me that I got to make weight.

Sure, but you're not going to go and just weigh in and not fight. You're only going to go if you have the fight. Correct. What happens to the RAF match? They understand? If I fight for the UFC belt? Meaning if they call you today, you're going to say yes to that and the RAF match against Tony gets canceled.

Yeah, they're going to understand this is title fight. You know, it's big for him too. If I become a UFC champion, my name is going to be big. and we're just going to do like other other event you know and yeah they're going to understand that are you actively training for the 14th just to be 100% ready yes but you know when you don't have a fight you don't know who is your opponent you cannot train the same because and especially when you compete with r a when i compete in r a if i focus on my wrestling but still like I do like a sparring, wrestling

just in case, you know, to be ready. And so do you have a cutoff in mind, meaning, okay, by this date, I'm not available. You can't call me June 12th. Yeah, but it's impossible how I'm going to make wait for two days or one day. That crazy things happen, right? Sure.

Maybe like it's not going to be title fight, you know. But in your mind, like, if it's four days out, you'd be willing. If he gets hurt, fight week, you're willing to step in. Maybe like one week before, yeah, it's possible. Okay, one week. And for now, it's Tony Ferguson on June 13th. Yeah, and then I got July 11, July 18.

What's July 11th? They still work on it. But that wouldn't be RAF, right? Yeah. Wait, they have another event? Yeah. They have back-to-back weeks? Yeah.

You're going to compete three times in the next month and a half? I can compete every weekend. Wow. So who's the July 11th one? They are still looking for somebody. But that's not the one. It's going to be out of the U.S. Okay.

Oh. First event out of U.S. Wow, wow, wow. But that's not the one that you're talking about, the other American. No, no, no, no. That's the other Americans is going to be in August. Okay. And you know who that person is?

Yes. Is he a UFC fighter? He used to be. Used to be, used to be. I feel like it's obvious. Is it obvious and I'm just forgetting? Yeah, so easy. So easy?

Yeah. Is he American? He's American. You don't like him? I do like him. Oh, you do? So why do you want to wrestle him? Because I'm not going to punch him.

It's better to wrestle than punch. Lightweight? Welterweight? No, you don't feel like, tell everything. It's easier to say name. I don't even know because you don't want to tell me. But you got a guess. Okay, all right, all right.

What about the Colby matchup? You like this? Yeah, it's a huge. I'm so excited. It's a huge. And he's tough, big, you know, and everybody thinks he's a, even bosses from RIEF think that I can lose to him. You think so?

Yeah, and that's why they want to do like the second wrestling if something if I lose or something, if he lose, you know. So you were there on Saturday. What did you think of how he looked against Chris?

Terrible. Really? Why? He tired so fast. Weidman, he's he knows, yeah, Weimel, he's big, he knows how to wrestle, but he hasn't competed long time.

he's uh he's on you know not on his prime anymore but he's barely won him did this give you more confidence going into the match seeing the way he looked on saturday yes what did you think of his uh his post-fight promo that he cut on you i haven't heard of what he said even oh really i heard just that spoiled spoiled something like this that I'm going to show but like it was too many people too loud you know and I was like

I was talking to my crowd you know nobody cares about him over there okay we played for you everybody everybody came to support me you know I know they love you over there

here's what he said and you can respond okay Armin you're a spoiled little brat you've been talking to talk let's see if you can walk to walk gas up your daddy's jet bring that little jest

about Nina John Hughes it's time to There it is. What do you think? He knows how to work. Yeah. You know how to work too. Look at you playing to the crowd.

It was great. Kobe, Kobe. It's hard to compete with Kobe on the, I was talking, you know. It's easier to compete on the wrestling than talking. And so what do you think, given what you just saw on Saturday, how does it play out? It's going to play out easy, 10 and all. Wow. Yeah.

he's going to be tough from the first two minutes and then he's going to get out and I'm going to do my job. Easier than Mugsy? No, no, not easy than Mugsy. Okay. But I'm going to fly for the training camp for that fight. So I'm going to take, I'm going to just locked in on the freestyle wrestling for three weeks. Wow, where are you going to go? I'm going to probably Russia for the training camp.

Oh, wow. Okay, so you're taking this very seriously. Yeah, yeah, this one I'm going to prepare and I'm going to locked in on the freestyle wrestling. Would it bother you a lot if you lost the Colby, given how you feel about him? No, I don't care. I'm not going to lose. You don't even think of that? No.

My mindset is always win. Even if it's an Olympic champion, I don't have a, I don't think about like the I can lose. I always think positive that I'm going to win, what I'm going to do after. And, yeah, I always think positive. What do you think of the fight week, if you will? It's going to get personal. He likes to make comments, get under your skin.

Are you ready for all of that? Yeah, I already used to it. So I've been on that situation. And I like it, to be honest. I don't like boring wrestlers. But, you know, I'm not doing just for the, for the money and I'm doing this for the

hype for the people you know for like to bring a lot of eyes in this sport it's unbelievable what it's become Ryev yeah especially crowd over there it's crazy how they

they bring so much people and even like I was first match of the evening and the crowd the arena was sold out why did they put you first match because Maxi he's a commentator or whatever what he's doing there

that's why he they put us on the first and I say I don't care just I'm going there to do my job I know are people going to come from from 7 p.m. there because of me how many how many Colby matches equals one UFC a couple not too much so that's amazing so you're getting paid here at NRAF yeah yeah yeah yeah getting paid. That's great. It's amazing. But not only money. Oh, yes. Oh, part of the company, equity.

Followers, followers. Followers too. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good as well. What about your boy, Hamza against Dylan Dennis? Oh, that's a huge too. Yes. Easy money. How's Hamza doing? Doing great here. He's preparing in Abu Dhabi. He brought his first freestyle racing coach. He's taking so serious.

yeah he's he's ready what happened in in Newark oh we haven't talked about that no we haven't talked about it let me see do I have a charger or no oh my gosh oh yes

you're good yeah tell us your perspective what happened what happened he started wrestling and after the first round he got tired and it's mostly because of a way cut

because he could wrestle like 25 minutes don't stop and he could spark 25 minutes but like something his body uh after when he started cutting weight that the night he he he felt so bad and uh in the morning he has no energy but he thought it's going to be easy but in the morning like four pounds left His body didn't sweat, you know, and like, yeah. So, and we just push him to cut weight and make weight. It was so hard. And then he said, even to me, like, if I'm going to make this weight, I might lose. I said, bro, no, no, you're going to recover, and you're going to be good.

Wow. He did not look good on the scale, right? I mean, it looked like he had a really bad weight cut. Were you ever worried that he was not going to make the weight? No, I wasn't worried. At one point when he said, yeah, I cannot cut weight one point. I thought, no way. And we started like a push him and, yeah, and he could make the weight.

And I said like if you feel like next day, you're not there. Just like a, I said like after Wayne's next day you're going to feel good. So if you're not going to feel good, let me know, but he didn't say anything. How far away was he from making weight when he was saying that? Like, how many more pounds did he need to lose? Maybe one pound. Okay. Maybe less.

Point eight. I heard some interviews, T.J. Dilsha was saying that he was throwing up and stuff like that. Is that true? Bile? During the night. During the night, yeah. He was throwing up. Yeah, but I wasn't there.

It was like when he went to sleep. Okay. Yeah. His nutritionist has now responded to people, it became a whole thing. It's not. His body, I think personally his body cannot take the heats from the sona, you know? And it affects him, and that's why he throws up. Probably, most likely.

Do you think he should forget about 185? No, no, we can still. make the weight, just need to adjust a couple things to come lighter last day. Instead of like 15 pounds, he got to be 10 pounds. Okay. The trainer that you guys were working with, Sam, Sam Calvita, he's been getting he too now. People are critiquing the stuff that he's making you do and Hamzat. What do you think about that?

I mean, people are always going to talk. When he wins, everybody says, oh, yeah, he did a good job. He lost. everybody say, yeah, he's doing the wrong things, you know, they over train. But like Hamza's last training in garage was like 15, 20 minutes. Okay. Yeah. And on this level, you're professionally.

You've got to control yourself if you feel you're tired, if you just skip the training. You know, what's interesting about it. Like, even I think, correct me if I'm wrong, even despite the fact that you say you got tired and the weight cut, it seemed to me based on what I saw from you that you still thought he won. Like your reaction. Did you still think he won the fight despite the fact that he didn't look great?

It was, so on that time, I thought he won so good. Like, I mean, like, he won he won 4-1. But like, when I went home and I watched one more time, I thought it's like, it's 3-2

and I still thinking he won this fight. But like, you know why? because he's a champion, he always went forward and like how he went even even his draw, you got to give to the guy who is a champion. Yeah, I mean, it's my opinion. The way it's scored is is different. Does Sean surprise you? No, I'm not surprised me.

In what way? That he got tired from the rest of him. Okay. Because he never get tired in the gym, 25 minutes, non-stop. And like every two rounds we switch Every sometimes one round We switch opponents because they cannot stay with him It's impossible

He hits hard, he wrestle And like a high level of fighters You see fighters I was watching his sparrings You know That's why I was showing how it's possible He got tired from the first round So do you chalk that up to the bad weight cut

Yeah it's 99.9% of a way cut Right I was surprised You know, I got a lot of heat for this, Armand. I don't know if you know this. But I didn't like all the stuff that was being said before the fight. But then I say, okay, fine.

You know, people are into it. It's selling the fight. They clearly hated each other. And then in the aftermath, it was just to sell the fight. We're friends. Like, to me, I think there's certain things that can't be said.

Talk about mothers. Talk about religion. If you're going to say it, then you can't say it was to sell the fight. You know, like, in our mentality, So whatever you say They go, they fight

They see who is the best And then they It's like a show business You know, it's not personal If it was personal Probably Sean Wasn't there Anymore

It felt by the end that it was personal He kicked them in the groin He was very upset about some of the things It seemed to me like By the end I think it's a No, it's a it's a show The show

Sean he was doing it for sure because when he when you ask him he's saying like I'm doing this to get the title fight to promote the fight you know don't take serious so if someone said something about your parents you would you would chalk it up to show you're you're a hot-headed guy I don't know if you would appreciate that and you know like for example you see like I had that was Georgia right we were we fought and then we wrestle and then we we squish the beef and now we're like a When I see him, I hug him, you know, we have a normal relationship.

Okay. But at that moment, I would like to kill him, you know. But now I'm okay because I beat him two times. Right. And he apologized, and now I'm okay with him. Like, how you feel about Ilya? I mean, I don't know, he never, I cannot like talk about family and parents because he has a different mindset.

you know. He can talk about me, not about my family and my friends. Why not? I mean, where he came from, it's disrespectful. Right. Yeah. I think that's where I came from, too. Yeah, he can talk about me, whatever he wants to say, but like my family and my parents is... How would you react if he said that about your family?

I have no idea. I don't think you would react well. And correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think you would say like, ah, it's okay. afterwards and hug him. I mean, I cannot say what happened, you know, because sometimes I'm too crazy sometimes I said fuck this guy.

Yeah. Do you think that Hamza gets the immediate rematch? I hope so. I want to see this fight again because I know Hamzat is better than him and he can beat him with the right way cut. But what about Imov?

Imamov. Imam of I think he got away because Hamzat is a bigger name, bigger star. And the fight was too close. You know, that's why it makes sense to do. If, yeah, Sean beat him so easy, of course, they wouldn't give him title fight. But I think you could probably sympathize with the imov because, you know, you've been passed up and things like that. Sometimes the politics of the game.

It's a politics and business. I was there. I was on that situation. almost it's been two years on the same state yeah

so you can't do anything you just gotta wait by the way going back to the danis fight you're going to be there obviously

against you know you're going up against Tony do you think that he's going to try to do some shenanigans uh

yeah with chamsat impossible on the internet yes on the life impossible are you surprised he took this fight

or the match probably he gets paid very well Yeah. What are you expecting from Tony? Same as Dylan Dennis. Which is what? Which is 0%. He's a legend, Tony, though.

Legend, who said he's not legend? He's legend, but right now it's my time, you know? That's right. And I need, that's why I took this fight, not just, I want to wrestle. I want to have his name on my list. When I retired, I have all legends, you know. even they're not in the prime but still you know sure were you a fan of el kukui when you were coming up of course of course legend that's right that's right but he's got a very unique wrestling

style i don't know maybe you're going to have it's going to be a little tricky no uh if i let him do something yeah okay if i don't want to let him do we'll see i i have no idea what his wrestling uh right skills but i I see his training, legs, he's doing some crazy things. I'm preparing for me. I don't know. Maybe he wants to kick me. I think he's going to be your most unique one,

like your most unconventional opponent in RAF. Yeah, we'll see. Did you see earlier... I'm excited. Yeah, no. I'm excited for this. It's fun, yeah, for sure. Ben Ascran is wrestling.

Did you see that? Yeah. Versus who? Belal Muhammad. Oh, my God. What do you make of that? But, the offspring,

he's on the shape He almost died. Double long transline. How he's going to wrestle? I don't know. I was talking to him. He looks great. Wait, wait.

Can I imagine if he beats the Bilal. That's what I said. He's going to shock the wall. Armin, this is a lose-lose for Bilal. If he beats Balal, Balal just lost to a guy who almost died. If Balal beats him... You see Ari is going to cut Belal right away. If he beats Al, if he beats Askeran,

and everyone's going to be like, ah, you beat someone who almost died. Yeah, but like Oscar, Oscar, maybe he has a good experience. He had the big fights and he was good. He was an Olympic trial team or something like that. He was on the team, 2008 with D.C. Yeah, yeah, he was on Olympic. Olympians. Yeah.

It was Olympians, yeah. But, like, after what he got, it's hard, you know, to come back and compete with the high-level guys like Belal. That's, I mean, I can't believe it. A year ago, he's in the hospital in, like, essentially a coma. And now he's right. But, like, respect, only respect. So are you in L.A. now? Yep.

So you're training there at the studio? Yes. We found out today your friend Khalil Roundtree is fighting Magamad Ankoliv. That's a good fight. You like that one for him? I mean, it's good fight for him, yeah. Because if he beats Ankalyev, he gets title fight. What do you think?

But Anka Lave is my friend, too. Oh, no. What are you going to do? I'm going to just see. I watch good fight, you know, the winner, the, who is better the only on the kid you can see

so you're not going to help Khalil I'm like so small for Halib to help how I can help him no but insight you know technique coaching no no no I'm not

I'm not coaching yeah he has his own coaches yeah no the the grappling coach we have we have same coach what happened with that guy in Los Angeles, Namo Fasel.

Nothing. Ah, what happened? He beat your friend, right? David, McGoyen? No, he didn't beat my friend. My friend is fine. Your friend is on the guy. He beat Jake Babian.

No, it's not my friend, Jade Babian. Okay, you have nothing to do with him. Because he's Armenian, so I thought maybe you were friends of them. No, no, no. I have no idea who he. he wasn't. Okay. Now I know him.

Yeah. But he called you out after, and then I saw you guys talking to each other in the arena. Yeah, he wanted to do the hype and he did it. And then we just, we just squish the beef and now we're okay. What did you say to him here? Here I was saying about, he was in locker room. I was in locked room too. And if you want to talk somebody and say somebody, you know, when you see personal, you can say right away, right?

Like, not to get the mic and say, where we are at, Armand, I'm here, you know? Like, I was in your locker room. I didn't say because you have a resting. And like, a lot of guys call me and say, don't not say anything because we're from the same gym. Then Lambert and then I talked to Ali as well and I said Don't do anything and then and he went there and then like took the mic and say Armand I got to talk to you baby And that shot of you in the back there when Nikisa and then I went there. I said

What do you mean? You gotta talk to me where you at? I'm here, you know? Like if you want to find me you can find me why you like a especially like a guys who said don't know do anything like bad you know like don't don't put that thing on the on the like on the on the internet and make don't don't make it bigger you know that's why I was I went right away and I asked like what do you mean where you're at I'm here like but and then and then we just squish the beef and it be good so You saw him in the back when you went in the back there? No.

They didn't let me see him. So where did you squash the beef? On the internet. Oh, did you write to him or he write to you? Oh, we just, between us was Ali. So Ali the squish the beef between us. Ali the peacemaker. Yeah.

Amazing. Yeah. What did you think of that show? For the first show was incredible, to be honest. The crowd, the fights was okay. Some of the fights was good. Some of them not, like, for example, Nagano fight, it was good. And then the tall big, the Teclando guy from Cuba was good.

and then the PFL champion that fought there. Jason Jackson. Yeah, he was good. Mike, my friend, David, was good fight. I mean, like, half of them was good fight. Half of them was just the stars that bring a lot of ice, you know. You always got a balance, have a balance, you know. What did you think of Nate and Mike?

Terrible fight. Terrible. I mean, for fans, who is not professional, it's a good fight. For example, like, even Ronda Rosie, you know, for me, it wasn't a good fight, but, like, for fans, who doesn't know, I was with my friend, he said, you see how fast Ronda Rosie went there and, like, just like, she's a killer, she's that, she's that. But, like, when you're professional, you can see the levels, you know? So you weren't impressed. You didn't enjoy it. No, I'm not.

Half, half fights I enjoy. Right, right, I'm talking about that fight, but in particular, Mike and Nate. Mike and Nate, no, because, like, the Nate was, he looked so bad. You didn't, he's, he was a good fighter, but not anymore. Okay.

You know, recently, Ryan Garcia- But, like, crowd, like, the plot, like everything, like crazy, was crazy. Yeah, I like it. The energy was great. I wanted to ask you, and I'm going to let you go in a moment, but Ryan Garcia was asked about you in the bet, the 40K. Did he see what he said recently?

No. Here's what he said about you. Yeah, there's no way I'll ever pay him. Here's the reasoning why. People, they didn't catch this part of the string, but he told me himself, because I was going to hit him. Okay. He told me these were his words.

Yeah. No, brother, it's unfair because if you hit me, I'm a fighter. I know how to take it. So it's not fair and I need 80. So I was like, okay, cool, cool, cool. That makes sense. We know how to take punches, whatever.

And then this random dude that I thought was a security guard comes up and I'm like, oh shit. It's a big Armenian dude. They want me to hit him. I'm like, all right, cool. I knew something was up. And then I hit him obviously. I was like, you know what? One, I didn't really want to lay it in on my fullest.

Like, I don't know. And they only let me hit in a certain spot, too. But yeah, so it was just really weird. I only hit him twice. It was supposed him three times. I was like, no. But you went no pad on it. Yeah, I was like, this is not right. I don't like how this is going. I was like, all right, I'll give you the 40 bit in my mind. I was like, nah, I feel like I got played, whatever. Anyways, I just want to fight you. And I was like, let's just fight. So I went at it for real with body shots with a big ass motherfucker. That was actually a real fighter. Yeah. So, you know what I mean? Like, I showed like, bro, I'm right here. Like, you drop me. You're a real fighter. Like, let's go. You're 200 pounds. I'm 160. You got 40 pounds on me. So I'm like, you know what? I feel like I got played. You come try to take the money from me.

What do you think, Armand? Whatever he thinks he's right. Whatever he's saying, he thinks he's right, but it wasn't like that. When he said, like, I have a 40K, I said, no, what is 40K? I'm not going to take punch for 40K, double it. No, no, you're too rich for me. And then I said, I have a friend. You can hit him for 40K.

And he said, okay, and he threw not two times. He punched three times. Are you going to come get the money or you don't care? No, I don't care. What about your friend? Does he care? No, he doesn't care too. Okay. So it's over between you?

Yeah, it's over, but like people still talking about that, which is something right, something would it wrong. Sure. him and Ilya are going back and forth how do you think that goes if they fight did you see that? Yeah I'm either no chance

versus a professional boxer Really you don't think because the the MMA fighter you know Francis Rico I know he's not MMA but crossing over They've had success recently Who got success Rico I thought did well against Usek Francis against Ferry

He was he was He was doing the kickboxing boxing all his life Sure. You don't think Ilya can hang with Ryan? No, it's going to be same like Floyd and Connor. Okay. No way. No way an M.A fighter can compete with professional boxer. It's good, big money, big show, you know.

And I want to do that one day too, but I know it's just, like, for example, you're going to wrestle with freestyle wrestler who is Olympic champion right now and your MMA fighter. You think someone can beat the Olympic champion? No, but, you know, crazy things have happened. Who would you want to box? Me, Ryan Garcia. Oh, that's the one.

Armid v. Ryan. How would you do against Ryan? I don't know. Right now, I haven't thought about to fight him. If you ask me, yeah, I would like to do Ryan Garcia. but like I have five, six years to work on the UFC, we'll see maybe I become a better boxer.

Paddy Pimbleau BSD? Hard. I think Paddy Pimlet. Really? How come? Because BSD has no striking, as wrestling,

but like Paddy Pimlet has a grappling and he's going to stand up and on the striking on the I think they're going to just fight each other they're just they're going to like do crazy fight and on the feet I think a little bit better is going to be petty people wow okay I don't even know if he's the favorite going into that one but that's that's not what I expected you a little bit a little bit favorite okay okay you know all right fine just just just the BSD

too slow, you know. He's looked good as of late. He has a good wrestling. He has a good control. And what about Connor and Max? We got to see what's the

what's the Connor's shape right now. As I know, how he trains last like two or three years from internet, most likely Holloway because he's been training consistently

and like it always fights. Yeah, mostly it's a holiday. Last last one, of all the crazy things you've done, this one that I saw with the Porsche, where you eat the hamburger and you jump off the Porsche, this is maybe the craziest one because the Porsche almost went into the pool. You know what I'm talking?

This one, look, you back it up right at the edge. Where is this? Yeah, for house. If you go one inch more, you're going back there, You're eating the hamburger. You're drinking. What's this drink you're drinking? It's the same one as today.

Yeah. It's a germic water. Spargon water. Oh, nice one. And then you jump off. You just go. And then I think you almost, right there, I think you almost broke the glass.

No, no. And that's not a deep pool. No, no, it's deep. Is it deep? Oh. Yeah, two meters. This is the craziest one. But first I checked how much the cause

the if I break that thing, the spoiler? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much? 15 or 20K? I said, okay. It's fine. No problem. Easy money. No problem. No problem, yeah. It was that one and you getting a haircut on the plane

might have been your greatest flex of all time. To get a haircut while on the plane? You got to tell me. What do you mean I got to tell you? This is the greatest flex of all time. Yeah? You brought your barber on the plane with you? Yeah, it was so excited.

Well, you know. Because it was Tuesday. I supposed to have a haircut on Tuesday, but I had two trainings, and then I got to pack my stuff, and I don't have time. And the 7 a.m. we got to fly. And then I said, okay, just take him, and he's going to cut my hair in the plane. And then he flew back? Yeah, no, no, no.

He stayed with me. He hang out, and then he flew back with us. Wow. What a life. unbelievable yeah look at this one day we'll take you too

if I'm lucky enough I don't know maybe maybe I come to Georgia with you or something you have so much money that you can yeah right yeah right

me I wish I wish one day I'll be as good as you I was in your office yeah it was a nice office right you came to our city but you didn't stop by it's okay don't worry about it I was busy

I know I know you Armin always a pleasure Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Congratulations and good luck, and we'll talk to you soon, all right? I'll see you in June 15. We talk on the Monday after Ilya. How about that? Deal? Deal. Talk to you then.

You're the man. Thank you, Armin. There he is, the great Armin Taruchian. That's June 50. He knew it. He knew it. What a guy. Is it crazy that every time he says one of these things, I'm like, oh, that would be a good drop. Hello, hello. I'm good. The one that he said over there, he just said something right there. He said goodbye to me.

He did say goodbye to you? Yeah. What a nice guy, right? Super nice. I feel like he's like an extended part of the family now at this point. I mean, I feel like I'm impersonating him. That's that bullshit. Are you starting to feel bad about the drops?

I mean, I don't know. No. Oh, look at this. Look at this. Connor told me that his lines were actually incorrect. Did it start differently? Did it open differently? BSD minus 175 Patty plus 150

I was surprised to hear that Patty would be the favorite Did he open as the favorite? No, BSD's been the favorite all the time Are you sure that Armin wasn't just saying he thinks he's a small favorite? He favors him a little bit. Oh, okay, maybe I missed on this one. Are you surprised he's picking Patty?

No. Okay. Are people picking Patty? I don't know. I think the combo of how BSD has looked as of late, how Patty looked against Gachi, but I don't know, styles make fights, so it doesn't really matter. I love that guy.

It's great. He's the man. Who is he talking about, that other match? No idea. I was trying to think. Usually, I, does the chat know? Chat. The chat was saying GSP.

Oh. Oh, my God. So I banned them all. Oh, I wish someone told me that. Well, I mean, do you want me to interrupt the interview? Yes. I asked him the thing. I said who.

Anyway. Okay. back to the news and notes we go. Okay, now is the real news and notes time. Wait, let me go back to my list. Oh, speaking of the Ilya Tuporia of the world, the Ilias Tupurias of the world, here's Charles Oliva guys

talking about his loss to Ilya, which happened almost exactly a year ago. Teporea ate your elbow. Oh, I was stupid when he had my elbow. The guy's shorter than me. He's a boxer. What should I have done? Stay on the outside and kick him,

make him come forward? and then shoot for the take down? But what was I thinking? I'll take him down and put my hands on him. I did throw my hands, but he landed first. So I was stupid. It happens. It's part of fighting. What can you do?

It's all in your mind. You have to come back. That's what happened. We come back stronger. That's what I'm trying to pass on to you guys. There he is talking to the youth. There has been some talk about bugs at the White House. Here's psycho Michael Chandler

training in the heat, the humidity of Florida with actual bugs on him, all sweaty, and then he eats the bugs. One of the most disgusting things you've ever seen. Here it is, here it is. Look at this guy. There's Henry Hooft, his coach. Here's tall glass of milk, Michael Chandler. We got the sun.

We got the heat. We got the humidity. Look at all these bugs. bugs on him. Hey we're ready for the bugs. Dana you said there's going to be bugs dude. Look at all these. They got it on my face? Yeah. Oh. Oh. Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha. We need an experimenter out here. That's cool. We need to be more, right? Yeah but I'll be here in the morning. Okay, so see you in the morning. Yeah, see the top.

She says it in real life. And there it was head. That's go to it, dude, right in this style. No helmet? That's pretty crazy. Whoa! I came out here to acclimate to the heat. And you got acclimated to the bugs, too.

Two or three did. And you just gotta give it the old, right away. Right when you're sucking in, it's like, it's over. You're stuck, it's over, dude. You breathe in? I felt one, I felt that one hit my nose, and I was like, oh, I think it didn't bounce off.

I think it's stuck. That is disgusting. I bite me to fuck. Bro, that's crazy, dude. I mean, I guess it's actually smart, right? If there's going to be actual bugs there? I didn't notice them until, like, halfway through. What kind of bugs are those, Frank?

What kind of bugs are those, Frank? Yeah, I saw one on me, and then now the next time I look down, I got. How annoying are gnats? Good source of protein up there. Well, we're acclimated. Yeah, man. That is nuts. Derek Lewis also on the card, guys, and he's beating up, well, not babies.

but he's beating up regular people at the gym. Bang! What the? I don't know who that guy is. Is that a training partner? Look how many people are in that cage? Very sweaty. That feels like hell.

Right? Yeah, I'm not taking a body shop from Derr. No, thank you. Islamachev, he was at the Champions League final with D.C., DC very sad about his beloved arsenal who he only started supporting like six months ago losing. Here's Islam talking about his return. When are we going to see you back in the octagon? Right after here, I'm going to the camp and I don't know, August, August, I will be ready.

Any names you can tell us? A lot of contenders, but number one is the Yan Gehry. and we have still a couple more who won't take the belt but I don't give no one Who's this young Gary that he's talking about? Or does he mean Ian Gary? We've been telling you this for a long time.

Philadelphia, Ian Gary, Islam Khadjev. Despite all of Ali's tweets and Michael Morales's tweets, it's always been Ian Gary. It was supposed to be Ian Gary in April but it got postponed and I think they're going to have two title fights on that card.

It's been reported that the other one will be McKenzie Dern against Gillian Robertson. How about that? You guys like that one? I do, yeah. Why? Decent fight.

I thought we were going to get Jiang Wei League. I was going to say, I wish she was Wiley Zhang. I would prefer that, but I'm not mad about that fight. I think Gillian Robertson's been great lately. I'm interested in seeing how that plays out.

I don't mind if the winner of that fights Zhang. Yeah. I'd like to know what was going on with Zhang. Yeah, me too. She was at the fight on Saturday. I don't think she did any media in the back or anything like that. I mentioned D.C.

He was there with Patty Pimblet at the Champions League final. Here they are. Chopping it up. A couple of years ago, Chelsea won it when he played for them. He's good, huh? And he scored the goal to everyone else. But did you see Trussar with that pass? What a pass.

And you were saying it should be super many playing. Yeah, I don't get to sign if I could. Big here. I think. Look at D.C. sweating up a storm. D.C.'s soccer knowledge is actually. incredible. I don't think people realize how big of a soccer fan he is. And he flew to Budapest to be

there to watch his beloved arsenal. Sometimes they call them Arsenal. Sometimes they call them the Arsenal. Are you guys getting excited about the World Cup? I am so excited. Can't wait. I can't wait. They're even filming them landing. Did you see that? Argentina landing in Kansas City. Oh, yeah. Did you see this thing? This is actually, this is actually amazing. This is amazing. I saw it. Where did I see? Are you pulling up the thing where like the hubs? Yes. Some are going to be in like Canyon.

No, look at this. I'm going to play this game. I wanted to play. Where did I see that? I couldn't get enough of it. Where did I see that? That's going to be tough. I thought it was men and blazers, to be honest.

Oh, you know what? Maybe it was the, so basically every team, so you saw this, huh? Every team has its own hub. FIFA? No, it's not going to be that one. Yeah, I got it. You got it?

I believe so, yeah. Okay, okay. They're base camps. Yeah, well, who has it? Who has it? Ben Jacobs What? I mean he has every single

Wait Ben Jacobs on Instagram No on Twitter I mean he has every single team listed Okay okay okay this is great This is great Oh here it is inside FIFA There was a fun little graphic that I saw Okay so Algeria is in Kansas City

Argentina is in Kansas City You're ripping all 48? No no there's some funny ones Um Okay one second one second it's funnier the way I read it the other one yeah that this is great I feel like no no no no like what

Austria's in Galeta does anyone even know where that is no there were funny ones I'm telling you this is all of them and they're all listed right here this is so great this is so great well let me get the funny one

let me get the funny one real quick Germany and Winston Salem Wilmson Salem is pretty ridiculous what about Uzbekistan and Atlanta Yeah. How'd they score that one? Uruguay is in Cancun? What are they on vacation over there?

U.S. is in Irvine. What was that Frank? Yeah, Spain is in Chattanooga. Come on, that's good stuff. That's actually crazy. Iran is in Tijuana? That's funny. Come on.

Saudi Arabia is in Austin? Why is Saudi Arabia in Austin? Norway. I don't know. Maybe the other cities were being used by other teams. Okay, Morocco. See, you know what I saw? I saw Brazil is actually in Morristown, New Jersey.

That's kind of funny, right? See, this isn't funny. Here it says Brazil. Yeah, no shit. Iraq is in Greenbrier County. No, this is not funny. This is not good. Hawaii is in Guadalajaro.

I'm telling you, where's Renton? What's Renton? I think that's the town in New Jersey, no? Trenton? Trenton? That's Trenton. Renton is in Seattle. Renton is in Washington.

I'm telling you. Do you see Argentina and Kansas City? Did you see their plane land? What does that mean? What does that mean? Like, their plane was landing and people were taking video of it. Oh, you know what?

I can't. Even Jordan. I love the magic of the World Cup. I don't love the expanded field. I'm going to be honest, the kerosows of the world, with all due respect. Wow.

It just feels like the top two teams are so easy to predict. In fact, our good friends over at Yahoo Sports have a game right now in which you can predict your top two teams in every single group. And I just feel like it's, oh, I opened the app, and there we are,

front and center, right under the Patriots. Peres out, by the way, located in Boca Raton. Patriots acquired A.J. Brown? Yeah. Big day for NFL trades. Wow. I feel like Rusini was hot on that for a while. Who's that? Who's who? AJ Brown?

Oh, boy. Our friends over at Yahoo Sports, they have this game, and you have to pick the top two, and I feel like every single one is so, easy to predict. I guess the hard thing is who's going to be first. Like in Canada's group, I picked them first, but Switzerland is

the favorite. But the other two is like Bosnia and Qatar. Like no one's picking Bosnia. Come on. Anyway, I thought that was fun. All right. I'm excited. Also fun. GSP showing up to the Luke Holmes concert. Luke Holmes playing at the Freedom 250, right?

Is he? I don't know. Feels like everybody's dropping off at this one. I don't know. I thought it was ZBB. Just a little bit of chicken friday. Gov'i on a Friday night. Have you heard toes? What?

Wait, who's dropping off? This song, Toes. No. You haven't seen the litany of people not... I think we're talking about two different concerts. Wait, what do you mean? Two-fifety... I'm not talking about the fan fest for UFC.

Yes, but I'm talking about all the musical acts in the lead-up. You've probably seen the one where Brett Michaels just stripped out. Yeah. I think like Vanilla. Brett Michaels is out? Why is he out? I think maybe you guys are confused. I didn't think that every one of those people was performing at the UFC event.

What do you think we're talking about? I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know what they think that we're talking about. What are you talking about? I'm talking about all the artists who are no longer performing related to the American two-fittance celebration. I was talking about the UFC. Yeah, we know.

And you said everyone's dropping out. And so I was thinking about the fan. the night before, which it seems like everyone except for you. How many artists are there actually even on that thing? There's Luke Holmes, Zach Bryan. Yeah. I don't know. Okay, so you don't know. Okay,

so as I thought, you actually don't know what's going on. A little bit, take a rat. Anyway, GSP was with Luke Holmes. Did you guys see this? Luke Holmes? He's related to Holly. Excuse me, I'm getting offended now. Someone actually had

to teach him how to shock in the beer. This is the guy who sings, The Angels stopping me now. The ordinary. No. No, that's not him, isn't it? No, it's not him. Look at GSP coming out.

He's like, aye, aye, aye. This is a lot of pressure right here. This is your boy that was at the award show and sang the... He did the Summer Slam match with Logan. You got a fast car. I got a hair. Look how fast he drank that. Holy crap.

A little lefty jumper there. too. That's the first beer GSP has ever dragged. Forget shotgun. I don't know if he's ever had a... No, come on. Imagine if he just stumbled off the stage.

Is that the dude that went up against Logan Paul at Sumber Slap? No, that was Jelly Rock. I just... You guys are crazy. You guys are crazy. You know, at a good weekend, Greg Hardy. What is happening?

Probably now. The ordinary... Who's that by? That's the one... Alex Warren. is his name apparently. Morgan Wallen. It's a commercial of the 9-1-1 show where the meteors are coming.

Oh, fuck. That's a great commercial. Prepare for an 869. Praise for impact. There's meteors coming right out. Yeah, I don't know that one. What a fucking commercial. Whatever happened?

The show already premiered. Did they all die? Yeah, yeah. Come on. The Meteor's hit. I don't know what you guys are talking about, to be honest. Some AI shit. I know.

It was AI shit. Well, GSP had a great weekend. as did Greg Hardy guys. He went over to Serbia. I don't know if this was a great weekend. Well, he seemed to be having a great time. He actually, according to our good friend Alan Murphy, came in 26 pounds. Wait, missed weight by 26 pounds. What? Darko over there on the left.

Jacked. Anyway, this is how the fight went. Here it is. Bang. Oh, God. You know what I was asking someone earlier? How much money? We could probably look this up. How much money did Greg Hardy make in the NFL? Oh, you can definitely look that up. How much money did Greg Hardy make in the NFL? 18 million.

18, yeah. So, okay, because I was thinking like, at what point does he say like, no mass? I don't need this. But honestly, he probably... 18 million is not, never work again. I thought he had like a $50 million deal or something like that. I might have had a lot of legal fees if we're being honest. Yes, there's also...

No, no, I'm saying, yeah, the 18 million. If he was someone who made 75 million in his career, I'm like, why are you doing this? You don't need to be doing this. But 18 million is not too much. MMA Twitter, like, nothing brings them together more than a Greg Hardy knockout, right? Yeah, I mean, everyone loves it. Fuck that guy. He's hard to root for.

What about this face-off at the Wayans? It was at a Polish event. this is a classic move right here. Dude on the left. Oh, what, what? Oh, it's just a classic. Is it there? No, it's there.

No, it's a middle finger to your face. Bang! Work or shoot? Work or shoot? Work. Yeah, all these are always worked. Oh, man. I wanted to believe it. No.

The highlight of my weekend was Julian Maltavo Montalvo, who won on the the Raymond Ford Oshaki Foster card. He won and then he put a graduation cap on his head and said that he skipped his graduation on that particular day to fight on this card. Incredible post-fight promo. Here it is.

Today was supposed to be my graduation. And, you know, I had a fire, how to come handle business, you know. A moment everybody looked forward their whole years of being in school and I couldn't make it at one time. But just no, that's just the hard work I put into this, you know, boxing is life. And if that's not how you think, you can't be a boxing, man.

So, you know, I'm going to go home. I'm going to have my graduation. No, I'm not even going to have a graduation. I'm just having a good job. That was a good part. Everything's cool. This is how much work I put into this. And I'm just proving it to you guys, like, if you're willing to do this, you got to go all the way.

And for those people who are in boxing and they don't want to go to school, you know, you can still do it. and yeah, there's just this hard work. Thank you guys for being here and watching me fight. What a young man right there. 18 years old, by the way, 7 and 0. That was great. Did you guys attend your high school graduation? Of course, man.

Yep. He didn't. Respect. He had things to do. Sure did. Respect to him. Now, okay, what's going on here? I'm trying to figure out.

Eddie Hurnt says, what about Shakur Stevenson? What does anyone know? Oh, he's saying that Shakur signed with Zufa. All right, let's see. What is he saying? Here's Eddie Hearn speaking to Fight Hub TV. No, Shakur signed with Zuffer. So that'll be in moving forward.

But I just don't know who they're going to put him in with it. Because you see Zufra are paying it. Like, as a business, they're paying these guys five times more than anybody else from paying. To fight who? Like, who are you going to put Shakur in? What, you can put Shakur in with Oshaki Foster and giving $15 million? I mean, good luck to Shire and. I love him. I'd said to him fucking great, mate,

but yeah, it's a weird, weird model, and it's a model that's not going to last very long. Does that mean Shakur's motivation for the sport and being at the best has gone? No, I think he'll want to be the best, but I think he's been, you get told all different things. They're probably saying to him, you're going to fight Hainey, you're going to fight this guy,

you're going to fight that guy, and, you know, yeah, I think Shakur is a legacy guy, but, you know, for now maybe he gets to win one of those beautiful Zuffa girls. Shakur signing with Zufa is a big catch for them. I love Shakur. I like how Eddie tries to break the news or is breaking the news. And this has been hinted, Mannix reported and whatnot.

But Shakur signing with Zufa is a big freaking deal. And for now, I think Zufa is open to working with others. It seems like I don't think they're always going to be, you know, wanting to work with others. But that is a big time signing. There was another guy. I think there's been rumors of Devin Haney signing with them as well. that is a big time signing. I do wonder, though,

like, is Shakur just going to want to give up all the belts and fight for the Zufa belt? Eventually, I think that's what they want. And the other big question is, of course, these guys are getting paid a lot. There's no doubt about it. Once these numbers start to come out, it's not just going to be Conorbin.

This is going to be more than the Conorbin number. To sign Shakur Stevenson, you're going to have to pay more than $15 million a year, or a fight, excuse me, if that's what it truly is. That's a big time signing. Eddie Hearn has been on a heater, though. He has been on a heater as of late.

He actually proposed this regarding Conor Ben and Tom Aspinall. He proposed something that I don't think will ever come to fruition. But here's the interesting thing about Eddie Hearn v. Dana White. First of all, it's getting more and more heated, A. Second of all, Dana has never had a foil like Eddie. Dana did an interview last week in which he, like, fell for the dye and the hair coming down and all that stuff. He's never had a foil like him. That was fake.

And Eddie keeps coming back with other stuff. Now, again, I don't think anything's going to happen here, but he keeps coming back with stuff. That's getting people talking. And I think in the people's eyes, sort of putting him over in their eyes in this battle. Anyway, here's what he had to say regarding Tom Aspidal and a proposal to get him out of this contract. One thing that's actually stuck out with me from his comments is when Connor Ben signed with Zuffer, he said, Eddie should want fighters to earn as much money as possible, right? Do you remember that?

It was like, you know, he should be happy for Connor Ben, but he's making more money. So I've been thinking about that line, and I think that I've got an idea. I would like Dana Wyatt to release Tom Aspinall from his UFC contract, and I will guarantee Dana White in writing that I will pay Tom Aspinall a minimum, I probably five times more, but a minimum of three times more what Dana White is paying.

And I think for a hardworking, working class man that deserves every penny he can get because of what he puts his body through, and we've seen that recently, that Dana White should be happy for Tom Aspinall to receive that deal. So I would like to propose that. I would like to propose that Dana White should be happy for Tom Aspinall, who is extremely unhappy, and he should release him of his obligations with the UFC and allow him to go out and make considerably more for himself and his family.

Because that's what Dana White's all about, isn't it? You know, he'd be happy for Tom. So that's what I would like. Is that a serious offer? Like you would bring him over to match him and let him fight under a boxing banner as opposed to an MMA? No, not even a boxing banner. I mean, listen, the situation with Tom is, and he is under contract with the UFC, but unfortunately for him, he has signed a contract,

which is one of the worst, most grossly underpaid athletes I have ever seen in the commercial world of sport. Okay? So I think it's only fair because Dana likes to see fighters, you know, get their opportunity and make as much money as possible, like he said, that he should actually allow Tom to do so. Because it's just not. You know, it's just unacceptable.

And I've been quite quiet on that whole thing, and there'll be a lot more coming from me on that kind of stuff. But I've got to be honest with you, I'm looking at this kid, Tom Aspen, I'm looking what combat sports athletes are making around the world. And I'll be honest with you, it's absolutely disgusting what they're paying. And things need to change.

But I think, I think Dana should do the right thing, the honourable thing. Like he said about Conradin, we should be happy for these fighters to make more money. And I'm not talking about, So would you walk away from the Conner? Just to clarify, would you walk away from the kind of legalities surrounding the Conner? Yeah, I'll tell you what.

Actually, I would. Yeah, I'll trade that up. I'll trade that up. I'll walk away from all their problems they've got on the Connerban legal situation if they release Tom Aspen. Wow. To be clear, I don't think anything happens. But again, it feels like it's not a bad trade, right? They're never going to do it in a million years.

But Dana did say that. Why aren't you happy for him? So he comes back with the same. I thought that that was a cheeky one on Eddie's part. Here he is talking to Fight Hub TV, saying that he believes that he's spanking Dana White right now. I don't know, listen, I mean, Dana's having a nightmare. I mean, right now, I've got to be honest with you.

Like, his butt cheeks must be so red-wrore because all I'm doing is spanking him, spanking him, spanking him, spanking him, spanking him all the time. I mean, he's going, I mean, his UFC's gone. to part, right? It's having the worst year it's had. The boxing stuff they're doing is awful. He called me out for a fight. I accepted.

He shit his pants. Completely shits his pants. And then they saw some joke picture that someone put out of hair dye running down my face. He actually thought it was real. I mean, he's had so many Ls. I mean, I don't know what to say to him,

but, you know, unfortunately, I'm living completely rent-free in Dana White's head. and I'm just disappointed that he didn't stand up to his word of fighting me because if I got him in a ring I would tell you what I would spank that big Marish pipe of potato head all over the gaff and he keeps saying no one knew Eddie Hearn was before I started talking about well thank you Dana you've made me a huge star in America and our boxing business is flying but he talks shit makes up facts that don't even exist and now even worse than that after calling out a fight

he shit his pants. What can I say. Much love, Dana. What a gift this is. This rivalry is a gift. Even when Dana's talking about him, Dana's doing interviews with, like he's doing interviews

with boxing YouTube channels. He would never do interviews with MMA YouTube channels, but he's got to get it out there. They've got a show in Bournemouth coming up this weekend, Chris Bill and Smith, all that stuff.

And there's just a different type of energy to him when he's doing these interviews. And Eddie's responding to everything, and I find it highly entertaining. I'm in for the Dana versus Eddie Love Eddie Hearn I don't know that he's living Renfrey in Dana's head

I don't know if that last one felt like a little bit of a stretch to me This last comment that we just played The last video But the Connor Ben thing like that that asked Oh he's pressing him He's raising the stakes I don't think that Dana is as As bothered as he suggested in that last video

I don't know if he's bothered But Dana hasn't had a foil Oh yeah Any kind let alone one as savvy as Eddie dare I say ever I agree with that is a part of him that doesn't like

to have someone sort of punch back by the way he said he's taking all these ls though like what are the else Zufa boxing's about to sign up

all the biggest talent in the sport he hasn't taken else I haven't seen any else I don't agree with that yeah I don't agree with that he does one of the more interesting things

that Eddie says is people are afraid to challenge Dana and he's 100% that is right like when he's talking to the same interview and he's not

Eddie will come straight out. Sure, and he's not a media member. But he is right when he says, more people challenge Eddie than challenge Dana. And I think part of that is because there's a fear that Dana is going to just cut you off. You're just not going to get those interviews anymore. And to his credit, Eddie's credit, he will always do those interviews for how long, who knows? The Aspinall thing was a great. I didn't think of that, how he tried to turn that against them.

Again, I don't think anything's going to happen. But this is getting really interesting. I go back to the Shakur signing, that's a huge signing for them. And now look, they're going out. They're going to Cosmo in Vegas. They're not doing an Apex show. They're going to the Cosmo. So an actual venue.

They announced on Friday they're going to New York. They're going to the, well, the formerly known as Hulu Theater, now the Infosis Theater, formerly known as the felt theater. Oh, man. That's a big weekend. Is that a big weekend? Why? PFL, I believe, is out on Long Island that weekend as well.

31st, following weekend. Yeah. But that, I mean, that's big. They're probably going to do Richardson Hitchens and Edgar Berlango on that card. Two New York boys at the theater. So they're starting to go out there. I'm really curious, and I think it's going to look great because it's WW, UFC, all these people. This show this weekend is their first outside of the apex.

This, to me, is like phase two of Zufa boxing. Now we're really going to see what it's like out and about. It's going to be nice to see if they get crowd support. Yeah. I mean, CBS is a Bormouth guy. so I think it'll be well received, but I'm curious like, how is it going to look, the production? How big is it going to feel?

You don't think it's going to feel big? We're going to see. Yeah. Dana White has been upsetting some people because he said some stuff about mental health that people didn't like. Did you guys see this? He said some stuff about mental health,

and then TKO was spotlighting that either May or June, I think May was Mental Health Month, which seemed a little bit contradictory. Anyway, in case you're wondering what Dana White, and I love Dana's doing all these interviews now, and why does everyone ask him like he's some guru on life and politics and the way you should live your life and your relationship with your families and you ask him all these types of questions? Like he's some, you know, great mind that we all need to like lean on and use him as our moral compass as we as we navigate through this crazy thing called life. Here's what he has to say about men who talk about mental health. Talk about the manosphere this years, these days, the manosphere.

You consider yourself part of the manosphere. I consider myself a man. That's what I consider myself. And there's nothing I hate worse than men that don't act like men. So if that puts me in the manosphere, then I guess I'm in. And we've talked about mental health, men talking about their mental health. We talked about inside and two years ago, you don't think men, why don't you think men should be open publicly about their mental health struggles? Well, I think that it's, unfortunately, when you're a man, there are certain obligations you have as a man, especially if you're a man that's going to get married and start a family.

The man has a job in the relationship and in the family unit, and a woman has a job inside the family unit. every day when you wake up as a man, you are responsible for your family and to make sure that you, you know, from providing and support for your wife, raising your children, you play a huge role in raising your children. And I just think that if you're the type of person, you're a man that needs to get therapy or do whatever, then you do that. then you do that on your own and you do it, but you stay this strong figure inside the family. So, I mean, if you start breaking down mentally, what does that do to your kids when they see that? What does that do to your wife when she sees it?

It's the cross we bear as men and as fathers and as the head of the family. It's just, I'm not saying that men don't have mental health problems. I mean, I think everybody has their moments where like, holy shit. The world's coming down on me. And, you know, you get through that day, you go home, you get some sleep, and you got to get back up out of bed the next day and get ready to kick some more ass. It's just, it's what you do as a man and what you do as a husband and a father. Is it a sign of? It's never going to change. I mean, you could be a bachelor and not get married and not have. kids and you can do whatever the hell you want to do, right? But if you're going to raise a family

and I don't believe in this, let's go on a date and you pay half the, you know, I'm not going to not open the car door or the door for a woman. I'm just, I'm that guy. Maybe I'm too old school. Maybe that's what it is, but that's never going to change with me. So there's a lot mixed together there. Paying for half of the bill has nothing to do with mental health, opening the door. has nothing to do with mental health, but I guess it's just this male sort of idea that he has. People will call it, like, what do they call it, toxic masculinity and all this stuff. There's actually some that I agree with him on there. And I even think that a lot of people reacted to that clip without watching the entire clip.

He does acknowledge that you can have bad days and you can be affected by those bad days, but you have to dust yourself off, get out of bed the next day, and do your best to forge on, fight on, for your family, for yourself, because you have responsibilities, you have people that rely on you and need you to take care of them and all that stuff. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. You know, a week ago, there was a guy who is one of the toughest hockey players of all time, one of the toughest and most skilled enforcers of all time,

and skilled players, Claude Lemieux, who, it was revealed, took his own life. and I don't think less of him as a human being because that happened. He was, you know, who knows, who knows what his reasons were, who knows what he was battling. But that's heartbreaking. And I don't think that he's less of a man because he broke that way. I think that there are other people who might think that, that he's a coward, that people will say that about people who take their own life. But mental health is a real thing. CTE is a real thing.

In fighting, we see how the brain can affect your behavior, especially in fighting. You see this with a lot of fighters. I don't want to name names, but we were starting to see this with a lot of stars of yesterday year. And it's a tricky thing when the head of the organization is speaking so kind of flippantly

about these issues. And again, I understand what he's trying to say, but I think there's a lot mixed in there. I think there's a lot mixed in there. He's talking about the role of the man in the family. That's fine. But you're allowed to have bad days. He's also talking about like old school roles.

There's a role for a man. there's a role for one. Time has changed. Things have evolved. The way things were in the 50s, they weren't in the 1900s, and they weren't in the 1850s, and they certainly aren't in the 2000s and the 2026. You can't stick to one thing. Now, you want to, that's fine. But I just, I find it really interesting that all these interviews are centered around this, these topics that, I don't know. Like, if I had an opportunity to speak the day in a way, and I get it. Time magazine is not asking the questions that I'm asking. I get it. I of course get that. But these questions about the manosphere and mental health and all the stuff, why? He's a fight promoter. Nothing more,

nothing less. Are you that interested? And are they also asking about, correct me from wrong, I don't know if anyone's seen this. Are they asking about his transgressions as well? I don't know. Or is it just like, tell me your take on how to be a father, how to be a husband. And when he says these things are they pushing back with X, Y, and Z? I don't know. I'm not watching the whole thing. I'll be honest. I'll be 100% honest. But I saw people getting very up in arms about this, and I don't know. I mean, the company TKO is spotlighting mental health awareness. As Mental Health Awareness Month comes to an end, Khalil Roundtree spoke with Child Month Mind Institute and shared a powerful perspective on mindset, perseverance, and saying mentally strong

through challenges. Known for being a vocal advocate for mental health, his message to kids is one of honesty and resilience. Join Khalil and make. making sure every kid gets the chance to be a kid. Do you think Dana sees this and says this is soft? No. I think he just thinks it's not for him, right? That's not my tact. And we have to acknowledge that there are people who are going to align with what Dana's saying, right?

There are many people who are going to say, no. For what it's worth, the quotes that I saw like going very viral were talking about it publicly, I just feel it opens the door to make young men think that it's okay to just fucking go, oh, I'm having mental health issues, and he says it in like a whiny voice. Handle it behind closed doors. Don't show that weakness to anybody. I am unapologetically masculine. What is toxic masculinity?

Who has it? Who's too masculine? And so I think there's a sentiment like should everybody have to suffer in silence, right? Like obviously there's so many people talking about mental health issues now, so many men. We see Patty Pimbley, every time he fights talking about how important it is for men specifically to talk about this because there is such a history of men suffering in silence. Transparently, I'm somebody who does try to like swallow my emotions quite a bit.

I'm somebody who does try to be the bedrock like and try to do the like the, the system that Dana White has laid out is something that I am personally more aligned with mentally, right? That is something that I personally identify with and align with more. Not that I believe everybody should suffer in silence, nor do I believe like we should. should at all times, like, not have conversations about it. But I do believe in kind of that the rigidity of trying to represent something in terms of strength and masculinity that he is saying. But at no point would I then go out and say to somebody, it's whiny to want to talk about those things, right?

That's something that I try to do. But I don't think that we should be speaking on the idea of like, if anybody does this, that's whiny. If somebody doesn't do it the way I do it, that is the wrong way to do it. I think the idea that TKO could represent, hey, we have fighters who are this uber masculine or even Dana White, right? Dana White is the face of the UFC promotion and has this stance. And here on the contrast is somebody like Khalil Roundtree.

Here on the contrast is somebody like Patty Pimblit who represents something completely opposite from that, right? Who represents something where vulnerability is actually a strength, I think is just, you know, the nature of it. Any time we get to a point where it's like condemn one side and support only the other, it's never going to go right. So I can see why people were quite upset with this. Even if there are people, and I'm admitting fully, like kind of like myself, who would say that's traditionally how I have been, you know, like not to say that I think that's the right way, the wrong way. I came from a household that now I've instilled a similar

mentality and a similar mindset. But I don't think that's the right way for everybody. I guess my biggest takeaway is I can't get offended by that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I guess I'm at a point maybe in my life where, all right, you're voicing your opinion. Like, I see some people getting offended or upset by it. I don't agree with it. Certainly not the quote. The quote was, I guess, the one that really people were. Yeah, that's the one that really set people off. I don't agree with it, but I'm not offended by it. Do you know what I mean? I don't agree with any of it that he said there. And I don't think less of you if you feel the way he feels.

And I don't think less of you if you want to voice how you're feeling. So I'm probably the opposite of you. I'm more of emotions on my sleeve type of person. But there is a part of me that I'd like to think, like, I've had to deal with some shit. And I get up and I dust myself off and I keep fighting. I actually always say to people, when I talk to them, the worst thing that you can do if possible is develop a woe is me attitude. Something bad happens. You can feel bad, you feel down, you feel like you got to kick in the balls, and then the next day you say, I'm punching back.

But if you stay down for too long and say, why me, why me, why me, the world's out to get me, why me, no one cares. No one's going to feel bad for you. You're only hurting yourself. And so there's a part of me that actually aligns with that mentality. But I don't agree with keep it to yourself, Or more importantly, you're weak if you don't keep it yourself. I don't agree with that. And isn't our conversation on it now saying, like, we probably come from different angles on this. But us talking about it is the benefit, right? That is the thing.

The conversation is the thing to expose yourself to different worldviews and not go, okay, well, this is how I do it and that's the best way no matter what, right? Your way is the wrong way, even though I've never experienced that way, we've never talked about it. We've never had a conversation about it. Your way is the wrong way and my way is the right way. I don't think that anything productive or kind of healthy comes from that. And so while we're both admitting, like, there are people who think like Dana White, the idea of let's shut down all conversation about it.

This is the right way. And if you do it any other way, it's whiny, is just not helpful to anybody. That's just not productive, even if you align with the values to a certain degree. No. And there are advocates. There's a guy named Michael Landsberg, who's a legend as far as Canadian TV is concerned. He hosted a show called Off the Record on TSN, and he's a massive. massive advocate for mental health awareness, speaking out, things of that nature. And I see his tweets

all the time. And they will resonate with me. And they will inspire me. And he's very honest and he's very courageous talking about his issues. And I don't think less of him. In fact, I respect him even more for having the courage to speak like that. I'll never forget the first time I ever spoke to a therapist in 2021, or maybe late 2020, I cried my eyes out. And I was very afraid. And I was very afraid. nervous and anxious about things. But so here's where I agree with Dana. I didn't go and tell my wife or kids about it. And it's not because I was ashamed or anything like that, but I just, I decided I wanted

to keep that to myself because I didn't want to worry them. I didn't want to upset them. Certainly not my kids at that point. They were so young. And even if I was doing that now, I wouldn't tell them. And so, again, this is not like a slagging off Dana thing. I always want to listen to what he has to say and be as objective as possible. and I know that some people felt a certain way

and I don't think less of them for feeling that sort of way. He has a certain mentality and he has to almost like project that mentality because he's been propped up as this guy, as this larger than life fight promoter who takes no shit off of anyone and can say whatever the hell he wants and hardly ever gets any sort of pushback.

Like when he says things like, oh, me speaking at the RNC convention isn't political, no one ever says like, wait a second, how is that even possible? Like how could you even think that way? Who cares? This topic is a very interesting topic. It's a very nuanced topic, and I think that everyone has their own take.

I don't think there's a wrong answer per se. I think saying that you're weak by speaking out about your feelings, your mental health, is to me the wrong answer, but I can imagine there's millions of people who may think otherwise, who may think that it is soft, that it is snowflaky, that it is all this nonsense. I'd like to think as a society we have or will eventually grow past that, and the same way you could talk about your broken ankle, You could talk about your broken heart or your broken head, so to speak. They're the same thing.

They both affect us in many different ways, mentally, emotionally, physically. But that would not be Dana White. That would not be his brand. It's a product of the times, right? That there's only two options. There's only this side and this side, right? There's only you have to be this strong, silent, can't let anything emotionally affect you and show that. or you're a weeping, mushy, just like, and that, and those are the only two options, right?

They're same as you're left, you're right, you're this, you're that. Every single thing has become a black and white, linear type of situation. Whereas the reality is there is no one size fits all type of solution for everybody. We are so vastly different. We are such unique individuals. There is no, you have to be this way, you have to be this way. What you have to do is just find what works for you. And if Dana White's saying that works for me, I'm totally supportive of that.

Once Dana White goes, that works for me and it has to work for everybody. And these other things are not what it needs to be. That's where I personally withdraw and push back from that. Like, I don't agree with that. Some of the toughest human beings on the planet have taken their life because of mental health issues. Yeah. And had they spoken up about it, their lives probably would have been saved. And I could tell you from my own experience, speaking up about it has helped me tremendously.

tremendously. When I was at Syracuse, I was so depressed. I wish I spoke to someone. And so not saying you have to be there on a megaphone speaking about it, but to repress all of it and not speak to anyone and to suggest that that makes you soft if you do is a dangerous thing, especially when you're someone of great influence and stature, because people may think that that's the best way to go about it, but what works for Dana, as you said, doesn't work for everyone else. So, again, a very interesting and nuanced conversation. I would say, if you do feel like you are suffering, please try to speak to someone, anyone, a professional, family member, friend, neighbor, cousin, brother, sister, girlfriend, boyfriend, it really does help. It really does.

And it's very, very hard. It's extremely hard. Don't think for a second that Dana hasn't had bad days. Obviously, he has. But, you know, he's programmed differently. And, uh, And he's been given this megaphone to share these views. And people are allowed to disagree with them, obviously. And I would say that there's probably a lot of people out there who agree with them and a lot who don't. And that's totally fine. He did also speak recently about Anderson Silva. And nothing that I thought that was too inflammatory or disrespectful.

But I think Anderson took his comments some sort of way. Here's what he had to say. And you just always, you don't know it's over until you actually get in there and you can't I can't pull the trigger the way you used to. Right. And then, you know, you get beat. And then even, I mean, some of the guys, I mean, Anderson Silva, the guy whom I've, you know, he was always a unique individual to deal with.

But he lost like eight or nine or ten in a row, something like that. And that guy won't talk to me to this day. Yeah. Because I said it's over. Yeah. And he was in his 40s. His thing was, who were you to tell me? that I'm doing, that I'm done doing what I love to do.

I mean, what do you say, what do you say to a guy like that? Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's over. It's, you know, it's over. Obviously, they could go fight. And he did. He went and fought a boxing match and he fought a bunch of other fights. He can still fight. Sure.

You just can't do it here. Here's what Anderson had to say in response to this. All of it laughing, the baldie talking M, I've been out of the organization for many years, but by the way, neither the current fighters nor the bald, you can forget my deeds. In the end, I think this was translated. In the end, the bald guys connected that with me, I didn't have a me, me, me, and general would get in the fight, and I saved the event more than once. And just for the record, the bald one doesn't look like he can count. And I think what that is in reference to is the eight or ten in a row. In fact, it was three in a row.

It was Adesania, Canaanier, Uriah Hall. Prior to those three in a row, there was the Brunton fight. Prior to that, which, he won by the way so it was three in a row prior to that he lost two in a row that was the DC fight which he took on two days notice three days under i think it got it got set on a thursday and they fought on the Saturday at late heavyweight prior to that was the bisming one which you know that like a second away from knocking out michael bisping um that was two in a row prior to that was nick dyes uh which he technically won but then you know tested positive so it was overturn so it wasn't a loss It was a no contest.

And then it was the two Chris Wyden fights. And then it was an insane streak. So it really wasn't eight to ten in a row as far as losses are concerned. So I could see why he felt that, you know, if you're painting it as like you can't win a fight and that sort of thing. It seems like the end. It didn't go very well. And it kind of was sad. You know, it was at the apex.

No one was watching the retirement fight. It was on Halloween. It felt like a bit of a whimper. Melchie Costa is moving up, guys. Melchie Costa is moving up after the loss to Arnold Allen. It was a good run in this category, but my body can't handle cutting 22 kilos for each fight anymore. Let's go lightweight. Oh, he tagged me.

I didn't even notice that. Thank you, sir. And good luck to you. Great fighter. Let's see how he does at 145 pounds. The best thing that I saw a weekend, I said it was the graduation. No, it's Big John, Johnny Fisher, breaking the Guinness World record for memorizing the most

takeout orders? Is this even possible? I didn't even know this was a thing, but apparently it is, and he's the one who broke the record. Guy. Egg fried rice, chicken fried rice, pork fried rice, special fried rice, Singapore fried rice, Singapore rice, noodle, plain charming, chicken, chicken, chicken, prawn balls, pork charming, beef, bowl, prawn balls, prawns, sweet and sour chicken, pork, con con, sour, beef and black bean, chicken in black bean, roast duck Chinese style, roast up Chinese style, roast pork Chinese style, chicken Chinese style, Kris

varamatic duck, seaweed, sesame prawn on toast, spicy pork, mixed all d'oeuvres, chicken and sweet corn soup, chicken noodle soup, hot and sour soup, hot and sour crackers, chips, salt and chili chip, salt and chili, chicken balls, salt and chili, pork. Wow. Wow. Wow. That, that, to me, sounded very quick. I feel like I might have done it just. In your attempt today, you achieved 40. Wow. Menu items in 30 seconds.

It's a solid record. You talk about my life being surreal. This has been one of the most surreal moments and one of the best moments. It's been an absolutely wonderful afternoon. What a legend he is. Do you think he has like a sort of system that he goes through? Like he starts with appetizers and then he goes to whatever.

I think he's got a photographic memory when it comes to that. He was like grouping things, right? Yeah, for sure. He was not going to few out by different, you know, meats and stuff. Yeah. Duck, pork. Something black beans. Something black beans.

Something black beans. You know? Why is it so captivating listening to him say all that stuff? Because it's a man firing off takeaway order from his right off the dome at a rapid fire pace. It's also the accent, I think. It's the accent. It's who he is as he does it. The swagger that he orders with being able to do it bilingual.

Oh, yeah. It's incredible. I mean, it's actually amazing he's never been on the show, right? Wait, what? I've always been bigging him up, but I've never. never actually had him on the show. I've had Johnny on, but I don't think we've ever had Big John. Are you sure? No, we've had... We've had... We have had Big John on the show with John. We have had Big John on. No, I don't think so. That can't be. Big John. You're looking

this up? He was on? Yeah. When? John Fisher discusses viral Chinese orders. Yeah, yeah, we've had... That's it, come on. Come on. Wow, 2025. It wasn't even that long ago. Yeah, man. March. You all right? I'm losing it. Yeah, right? We asked them about the Blue Orch's... I have all this stuff banked away as well. All right, my bad. John Fischer right there.

Oh, wow. Wow, well done. Frankie, do we have any super chats? Yes, we do. Okay. Jake from Woody City. Hey, y'all. Do you guys like this idea of a halftime show for the World Cup final?

The Brits want nothing to do with it as BBC is skipping all of it. Couldn't care less. Sure. What is he asking? What idea? I guess there's a halftime show and people are upset. Cold play or something. I don't know. Oh, they announced it and people don't like it is what it is?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Who gives a shit. Yeah. Uh, thank you. Uh, what else, Frankie? What else? U.T.U. O one. What happens if Connor destroys Holloway? Big fan of y'all and Ariel. You guys make UFC better. Thank you. What happens? He gets second fight within the next few months and uh, and his stock goes up even more. What do you mean? What happens? It's going to be gigantic. I think people are. starting to get the idea in their head that Connor McGregor's second fight will be a big fight, a title shot, an Iliate-taporia-type fight.

It could, but would they give them a title fight without a guarantee? I can't see it. No, they're not going to do that. I would be shocked. And it would be crazy to not test the waters. In this day and age, with all this money being thrown around, what else, Frankie? What else? Alpharo Danny, Ariel obsessed with Brunson like if he was friends with Drake or some big superstar.

It's like me bragging about being cool with Roysta 59. Roysta 5-9. No, you did that on purpose, Frank. Yeah. Damn straight. Also, are you not just bragging about being boys with Royce to 5-9 right then and there? A, B, do I, am I really that obsessed with Jalen Brunson? No, but are you talking about them like your personal friends?

No, I don't feel it. I met him once and it was like a minute conversation, and I botched the conversation, to be honest. I think you'd be a lot more insufferable if you were actually friends with Jalen Brunson. and we would never hear the end of it. I'm not that kind of guy. I don't think I'm telling you about all my famous friends, but... Tell us where? I mean, I adore the guy.

Like I said, he can erase a lifetime of pain and relieve us of a lifetime of angst. I was actually trying to think, like, how are we going to immortalize this moment? It's a good question. You know? We have the newspaper right here, but I don't know. Like, yeah. Are we talking? Okay.

Let's cross that break. Yeah, I know, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're right. The Omikaze receipt that you give for the last week. Yeah, yeah. We don't think we forgot. God, there's nothing I would love more to do than that. Do we invite your BFF Jalen to come celebrate?

It's going to be during Summer League, I think. Hey? But I do, one thing gave me pause, and I know exactly what you guys are going to say. Oh, you're getting out of it, not at all. But once Pizzi said he's not into it, then I'm like, well, what's... Oh, so now it's... Oh, Pizzi? No, we're good. I'm into it.

I'm into it. I was just going to say, let's pick an equally... I'm not trying to get out... Pizzi has only ever had sushi in Ireland. Okay, so are you trying to say he doesn't really know what he's talking about? He don't know ball. He don't know. All right.

I'm going to, what are we going to bring him along for like? He could drink some stock. Is his palate sophisticated enough? No, you just tell him not to come. That's fine. No worry. Just hang out. I'm going.

There is a, there's like a CBD place right next door so he can go to that. I can see him after Edward 40's being like, Ariel, you don't even have to bring me. Don't spend the money. He's going to say he's going to bed. He's going to say he's going to bed. And then we'll get a text from him at like 4 a.m. That's what it is. Like on the way to bed, he played blackjack for 10 hours.

What else, Frankie? What else? Sammy asked, did you hear Eddie Hearn on IFL TV stating that UFC should release? Tom, I have a lot of time for Eddie, but I hope this partnership works and not using Tom to shoot at USA. That's a good point. And others have brought it up. Yeah, I mean, Tom has leverage because he's the UFC champion. Of course, they can just take the belt away from him.

There's nothing that is contractually linking. him to the belt, so to speak. You can't just keep it. And there's no independent body. But, you know, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. June 15th is going to answer a lot of questions, right? And what I mean by that is the day after the White House card. So maybe you can say June 14th as well, but the day after Ilya Armin, Pereira, Ghan, Aspinol, those are two massive questions that need to be answered. Does John come back? Is Ily is, is Ilya moving up? to fight Islam, this and that. So I'm very curious.

I think for now, look, they understand what's going on. I don't think that they're going to sideline him, but is the relationship beyond repair? Let's see. He keeps winning. It's hard to keep him on the sidelines. The next one is gigantic. The next one is almost as big as Francis versus Cyril Gun.

He rolled the dice, last fight. It's not quite as big because he still has fights left, but it's the second most important heavyweight fight as far as like a fighter's leverage and negotiations are concerned. What else, Frankie? What else? Duck Butter, 69. Dana isn't worried about it raining at the White House event because the government controls the weather.

And he is best friends with Donald Trump, Source Arcad Sanity Podcast. Oh, wow. Is that Bryce's podcast? It is, yeah. Did he really say that? No, I think this guy is just doing like that's what would go on there. What else, Frankie? What else?

Alexander Hurst, 1171. As Ariel is colorblind, does he know he's green? Is he referring to my? shirt? Absolutely. I know, I know. Is that bad? No. I thought this was like... People like your clothes. They're commenting on it, but they don't have anything nice to say, so they just say stupid things like that.

Listen, when you're a fashion savant, you take risks, you know? I don't consider this a risk, by the way, but, you know, you try to inspire the next generation, so it's okay. And also, I would say, isn't this like, isn't this green month or something like that? it's a pride mug yeah no no man all the rainbow

yeah that's black and green which uh black is not on the rainbow oh what else frankie no no let's not move on from this one Benjamin Turk 1840 action on prop quiz book it

wow action without the shirt was incredible he was just great overall he does love game shows he does love camp shows oh that's right 7 730 what else frankie what else the robot ren can you get Chad Gable on

Thank you, Grascia. Hmm. I would love to have Chad Gable on. I would love to have a lot of people on. What about Ludwig Kaiser? I would love, love to have Ludwig on. Rick Flair and Ludwig, same time? Face to face?

You know, I forgot about all that. Do you think Ludwig doesn't like me because of all that? I sure hope not, because I've been binging him up. Well, what did you do? That was Rick. Come on. Don't pretend like the messenger sometimes hasn't gone. Yes, sometimes.

But in this scenario, I'm saying, Let's not assume that there's ill intent. I've been focusing on all the thing. Yeah, all right. I love Ludwig. Becoming like the biggest star in wrestling right now. What else, Frankie? What else?

Jacete. You've talked about your finals experience in 1999. Just curious if the same matchup, 27 years later, gives you more nostalgia or PTSD. Do you know that shirt that a lot of people brought up that cat wore? Yeah, yeah. He wore it. I have that shirt at home.

I bought that shirt at the NBA store because we took a trip to New York. In June of 1999, I graduated. from high school in 1999. We took a trip right after. My high school graduation was actually during game three and I had an old TV, a portable TV,

and I sat in the back of the graduation and I watched game three. Coincidentally, my elementary school graduation was during game four of the 1994 NBA finals, the last time they were the first time in my lifetime

and the first time in the 90s, 99 was the second time. And so right after the graduation, I loved New York as a kid. I loved all things New York. So we took a trip to New York. I went to the NBA store, which was relatively new at the time, and I bought that exact shirt. But at that point, the Knicks were down 3-1. So I actually watched Game 5, which was the deciding game that got eliminated in 5, in New York.

And the next day, we took a tour of Madison Square Garden. I posted a picture or two of my sister and I. My sister was eight at the time. and we actually got to go in the Knicks locker room and I took a piece of tape from Ewing's locker like a roll of tape. Ewing was injured that series.

So anyway, that t-shirt that I saw him wearing it's been resurfaced, he wore that before game one. It's pretty remarkable that they're now playing the same exact team. I have that. I wish I had it here with me, but I have it in Montreal, my parents' house. The tape?

No, no, I have the t-shirt that he wore, the same exact t-shirt. Where's the tape now, though? The tape is also, I know exactly where the tape is. I have a whole, like, memorabilia section in my old room. all kinds of amazing stuff. I was so into memorabilia. But anyway, to answer the question specifically, the symbolism and the poetry involved

in the fact that the vast majority of the stars from that team, the 99 team, Ewing, L.J., Allen Houston, Spreewell, all those guys are fixtures now at these games. All those guys sit in the front row, for the most part. Those guys are going to be watching this same matchup, 27 years. later, and I know they don't feel like some sort of animosity towards San Antonio, but there's a beautiful symmetry there. Now, I know in San Antonio, David Robinson's going to be there, Tim Duncan's going to be there, Greg Popovich is going to be there, all that stuff and more. But there's an amazing sort of like healing of the wounds if they could do it for those guys.

The fact that they brought back those guys, and I know there's the issues with the Oak, and it kills me that he can't be involved and that he's not involved, but seeing those guys feel the way in which they feel the guys that we all wanted to just win one. It does sort of feel like this is their chance to relieve that pain as well. So no PTSD, it's poetic.

It's a beautiful thing and yeah, hopefully they can write the wrong. What else, Frankie? What else? I just want to know where that tape is. I have it, I have it. I'll send you a picture of it. Athletic tape, surgical tape, no, it was like tape that you put like around your wrist.

Oh, okay. You know, like, uh... Do you dig is still sticky? 100%. It was like that white tape. You know, though, the... Yeah, yeah, but like, I would imagine that the adhesive would fade out after a few years, no. I haven't, I never opened it. Damn. That's commitment.

What else did you take? Back to the question. Jeff Hoffman, uh, yeah, I can't, I, I don't understand. Jeff Hoffman is the closer for the Toronto Blue Jays, and he just perpetually blows every single save, including this weekend. They were up six to one. No, five to one, and they lost six, five, to the Orioles. And he's the one who blew the World Series as well. I just, I don't get it.

I don't get it. At some point, like, they have to pivot. They have, they have to acquire someone or just stop with the closer. Just start bringing in guys based on matchups,

because this is not working. Of their losses this year, he has to have been responsible for like 15% at the very least. It's very hard to watch. Nice guy, it seems, but like enough already. What else, Frankie?

The robot Wren says, have you heard about the bricks and many figs scandal? I have not. I actually know about this one. What is it? So quickly, there were two people who sold their Lego collection. Oh, yes, I heard about this.

They put up assignment for 200K. Yes, sir. Ownership changed. New ownership says, we don't have any sort of contract with you to do this. So we're selling this for 100% profit. But a whole thing, do you have a comment on it? No. But I've seen it, and Lego's cool.

I'm into it. What else, Frankie? What else? The Gator 117. I had a feeling. A new Armin would be on Let's Go. What else, Frankie? What else? Jay Watt, 2387. What's going on with Peyton Talbot? Thought he was going to get the Umar fight, and he was vocal on getting back soon. I've looked into this. I just don't think he has a fight and he's getting antsy and he wants to fight.

I think that's pretty much exactly what it is. What else, Frankie? What else? Verte dingo dog, Frank, happy belated birthday, my dude. Hey, I appreciate that. He sent you a happy birthday message, but Rick didn't. Crazy. Yeah. What else, Frankie?

What else? The Gator 117 finishes us off was saying, Armine, easily a bigger name than Homs Up, by the way, Rick. Brother, come on. I agree. What? Brada, no. No. Armine by, I mean, Homs Up by a lot.

What is happening right now? Armine just got here, by the way. Like, meaning as a star, his star power was born probably in, like, December. let's be honest. The Armin that we see here today is not as big as the Armin who even fought Dan Hooker back in November. It all started with the videos and all that stuff,

so he's only had like a six-month runway. Hamza's had a six-year runway since 2020. Right, so at what point do we get to the part where Armin is a bigger star than Hamza? Right now, Armin's a hotter star, yes. Right now, especially after the last performance. I mean, just look, compare the Post. Who does more?

Like Post. The Post? The post? Yeah. Yeah. 13 million followers for Kumsat. Compare the buzz.

Compare the buzz around Humsat's fight against Sean Strickland versus anything that's happened in the last three years. Houss out of post a video of him hitting pads a couple days ago and it got almost 600,000 likes on. Yeah, and what does Armand get?

Armine gets in that world. Close, but like, let's go. But Armands eating a burger and you get 600,000. That's it.com. It sounds like there's a lot of like caveats, like aster. The barbecue was 136. the phone call from someone.

That's four times as small. Yeah, four times small. It's fighting. Raff was 300. That's half. Look, Armand's killing it. Armine's doing great. Nobody is saying Armis not doing great.

On top of his game. Be nice. Be nice. He's not Hamzot. Let's also talk about the Hamzot numbers, and I know Sean Strickton was half of that. Yeah. At the press conferences,

the entire fight week, they were putting up massive, massive numbers. Homsont's a huge star. Just saying. It's Armin easily a bigger name than Hamzot. It's great. I said easily. No, no, no, no, that's what they gave you.

This other guy. I would say, I love what people... I think it's getting to be very close. It's not, but also... I still maintain Armin versus Ilya is bigger than Illia versus Islam. No. Again, just no chance in hell that that is... It's a black and white picture just from the presser, just a solo pick, and it got 700,000.

Yeah, but that's at is, like, that's when you're at your peak in terms of fandom when you're... If you're trying to make an argument, like... You literally have... Armin has it in the comments being, like, the best. Yeah, if you're... was bro. If you're saying Armand has a higher ceiling, I don't agree, but I think it's possible, right? There's no world where Armand is a bigger star than Hamzad at this point in time. And there's definitely no world where Armand's a bigger star than Islam at this point in time. That's not even

like, we can't even have a discussion about that one. That one I'm not even entertaining. What else, Frankie? What else? That was it. All right, we're done. It's been a long day. We do have a great show for you tomorrow, my friends. Tomorrow on the program, Scott Coker in studio. Wow, he's back. I'm back. And better than ever. Scott Coker in Studio, looking forward to that. Omari Jones, big-time prospect, hailing from Orlando.

He fought this weekend. He's going to be joining us, boxer, matchroom boxer. And guys, I am excited about this one. The Hardcore Legend. Cactus Jack. Dude Love. Mankind. Bang bang.

Tremendous. On the program. Make Foley. One of my favorites ever. Have a Nice Day. Has anyone read Have a Nice Day? Intern Josh, have you read Have a Nice Day? He gave the thumbs up.

Okay, I was going to say your homework for tonight is to read Have a Nice Day in the next 12 hours. All right? It's one of the all-time great books. Rick, have you read Have a Nice Day? I have not. It's the greatest wrestling autobiography of all time. I mean, The Rock Says was pretty good. The Rock's is awful.

Come on. And there's no chance he wrote it. What? It's Foley and then it's Jericho. DDPs was good, too. I like DDP. Damn, you're burying the rocks, huh? That was my Bible for a while.

No, the Rocks wasn't good. It was very, I mean, it was very sort of... Your Bible was the Rocks Autobiased? Oh, I loved it. It was... China's was better than the Rock. On my mantle, I had the Rock's autobiography and a signed card from the Rock that I still have.

Got out. Got to read some scripture tonight. The Rock. Thank you, Toller, I guess. Thanks, Toll. of you back to our second time.