Chael Sonnen in studio, Leon Edwards, Claressa Shields, Josh Hokit, Jon Jones reaction, massive weekend recap
00:00Ladies and gentlemen, now, welcome to the Eri-A-R-I-D-Y show.Back in your life on this Monday, November 10th, 2000.And 25, hello again, everyone.I sure.Hope you're doing well.Hope you had a lovely weekend, wherever you may be.Hope it was nice, relaxing.Hope it was filled with love and happiness.
00:36Hope you're all in a great mood.There's a lot to be excited about.The road to UFC 322 is upon us.It is right there.We are five days away from arguably the best pay-per-view card of the year.My IFB is showing.Madison Square Garden, New York City, the mecca.The center of the sports world becomes the center
00:57of the mixed martial arts world on this particular weekend.What a card, two title fights, two super fights, if you will.Two champions defending titles against two other champions moving up.Never before has there been a card like this.Massive, massive stakes.Massive names.As deep as it gets.I had a lovely week.
01:22After the show on Wednesday, I went to Toronto, the 6th.Everyone was very sad over there.Sort of a general malaise kind of draping the city.Everyone's still in mourning.They're getting better, but everyone was very sad.In the midst of all of this, I had what seemed like every single Dodgers fan,including some of the players coming after me in a very aggressive, and dare I say, classless way.We'll have some words about them in a moment.
01:47But it just seemed like everyone was like, guys, you won, okay?What do you care about me?But they were just coming after me.Incessantly, it was very aggressive.And dare I say classless.But I was there with my friends at the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as we get set for Milano Cortina, 2026.You don't call it the Winter Olympics, as my Vladite Toy falls.It's Milano Cortina, 2026.
02:14That's what they say.I had a chance to interview, Sidney Crosby.That interview is coming out.Very excited about that.I mean, only one of the greatest hockey players of all time.two Olympic gold medals on his resumeif he wins a third in Februarywhich he probably will only Canadian male hockey player
02:31to ever win three Olympic goldI mean a pretty big dealcame homeunfortunately there was no footballyesterday to watch so it was pretty boringdidn't really have much topartake in nothing to really watchbut hopefully you know we get back to it
02:48on this coming weekendbecause it was kind of dull like without anyno no no no no no no no no I was told that nothing happenednothing happened of no you know I'll just say this if I can real quicklyif I could just say real quickly I hear all you Patriots fans you're very loudyou're very happy you're very excited that oh the pads are back the pads are backDrake May MVP just chill out all right what is it week 10could we just chill out for a second chill out just chill for a second
03:17Josh and the boys will figure it out no problem and you're all loving this I get itYou're all loving this.And trust me, I'm sick to my stomach.Don't make any deals.Trade deadline.Don't improve the wide risk.I get it.You're all loving this.
03:30Oh, our window closed.I get it.You're all loving this.I get it.I get it.I get it.I get it.Don't worry.
03:35We'll figure it out.The boys will write the ship.But you're as obnoxious and annoying as ever.And I get it.When you've been irrelevant for four or five years, it's fun to let it all out.I get it.I get it.But don't worry.
03:48Okay.They've got to be happy.One was less than the pat's at anything.Exactly.That's exactly.my point. They've been irrelevant for four or five years. They've won a couple games in a row.Okay, let's just see what happens come end of December, early January. Let's see who's who.Let's see what. I'm a little nervous. No problem. Nervous in the moment. Not about the big picture.
04:08The big picture is going to be just fine. Number one seed, here we come. No problem.You see what I'm saying, G.C. You share my optimism. Yeah, I got you, man. Number one seed,here we come. Yes. You got a little flyer. Oh yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't even call it aflyer. It's a pretty substantial wager on the bills when the Super Bowl. How do I feel? Notgreat. Not great after yesterday. No, no. We're going to be fine. A couple injuries, you know,didn't make any moves. There was a little bit of a panic, but we'd be okay. What's thist-shirt you're wearing? What's his t-shirt? Oh, yeah. Shout to Street X. What is? But you've gotto remember the back is the most important. Wow. Is that a new drop? Yeah, they hooked me up
04:46with it after the win at UFC 315. They made this special. Wow. I had to wear thepullover all daybecause you can'treally walk aroundthe officeI was wonderingwhy you hadthat thing zipped up
04:57you were rockingthe man unitedpulloverwhich is a weirdone after the lasttwo games that they've hadwell it's thetrip to Manchester
05:05you knowI do it morefor fashionthan supportno no of coursewe know thiswe've alreadyaddressed this
05:11that's a greatsure and of courseit isJDM Fight Weekforce had a bigwin yesterdayso happy about thatit's all good
05:17I know you allrelish mymy misery but that'sfine we're going to be okayeveryone'sgoing to be okay. We have a lot to discuss with a lot of people on this here program. Back into theshow, Clarissa Shields, who announced that she has signed a new two-year deal with Salitapromotions and with win records. There was some talk that she would go to MVP or maybe elsewhere.
05:39She is back. She's saying it's a $8 million two-year deal. She is saying it's the most lucrativedeal ever for a women's boxer. Also a $3 million signing bonus. Who is she going toWhat is she going to do? It's always great to catch up with New York Rick's favorite fighter.She'll join us at 3 o'clock, excuse me, 3.30. At 3 o'clock, Josh Hokit, who was victorious on Saturdayand cut a very mean promo afterwards. It was Shades of Chal P. Sunnan. He's going to join us.He is a product of the contender series. He wins in his first official UFC bout a very interesting character.We'll replay that in case you missed it and break it all down with Chale P, who will join usin studio at 2 p.m. Eastern, it's always great to have the UFC in town because that means
06:28some notables are in the area. Chal P will join us in studio at 2 o'clock and at 1.35. So in about35 minutes or 30 minutes from now, Leon Rocky Edwards, the former UFC Walterway champion who,dare I say, is facing a must-win situation on Saturday. It is a very, very big fight for himagainst Carlos Prachas, haven't seen him since the loss to Sean Brady some eight or so monthsago. And it's been a minute since we spoke to him. So looking forward to that chat and allof these chats right here on this program. You know, a couple of weeks ago, we talked about howthe next, well, from Saturday, November 15th to Saturday, November 22nd, we talked about howit's a, you know, it's an eight-man tournament, and there are four really big fights at 170 pounds.
07:23Of course, the biggest is Islamachad, moving up to 170 to fight the current champion, Jack Della Madalena, the aforementioned Leon Edwards against Carlos Prachas, Sean Brady going up against Michael Morales.And then seven days later in Qatar, Ian Gary, Ian Machado Gary, against Balal Muhammad.but you know shame on us shame on us because while we were focusing on those eight fighters andthose four fights we failed to talk about gabrielle bonfim who is very much in the mix right now at170 pounds he he has now won four fights in a row believe the record is 19 and 1 if not 18 and 1 is it 19and 1 it's 19 and 1 had a loss five fights ago that was to nicholas dalby lost viasecond round TKO if not for that one he'd be a perfect 20 and O had a big opportunity toheadline this apex card on Saturday against the always tough the very hard out Randy Brown
08:23gets the big win wins via second round TKO unfortunately I think for him afterwards he wasted thecallout afterwards he called out Colby Covington which is the biggest waste of a calloutnot because he's not worthy of fighting a Colby Covington because Colby Covington ain't fightinghim. I mean, first of all, Colby Covington ain't fighting anyone, but if Colby does come back,it sure as heck isn't going to be against a killer like Gabriel Bofim. And I don't necessarilyblame Colby for that. I just think you win a big main event. The spotlight's on you. Peopleare talking about it. It's a, you know, it's a big time stoppage. It's a complete waste of a callout to call out Colby Covington. One of the names, like, there's a very good chance he's
09:08fighting one of the winners or at worst one of the losers who are all big names in the nextyou know the next week of welterweight fights he's getting one of those guys he's in that mixhe's going to get a top 10 like the top 10 right now at 170 pounds features the likes ofyou know gilbert burns and and guys like that who you know jeff neal like he's going he's going toleapfrog those guys and so i would have taken the opportunity call out you know a morales call out aLeon, call out of Carlos, you're in the mix with those guys. But nevertheless, he called outMcCobie, which, you know, is what it is. I got a lot of shit online because I said, listen,I didn't say that I hated the stoppage. It wasn't egregious. It wasn't one of the worst
09:54stoppages of all time. I just thought it was a tad premature. And I think we've all, I was actuallysurprised at how few people agreed with me. The only ones who really seemed to agree with mewere the broadcast. I think it was Cruz and Paul Felder. Very smart, very accomplished fighters,former fighters. They seem to agree with me. But everyone else was saying it was the worst takeof all time, including my own friends. Here's the finishing sequence, and I get it. The fall ontothe canvas doesn't look great. But that's a moment in time right there. Look at this. What's that allabout, intelligently defending himself is Randy Brown. I don't know, guys. I can, but look at this.He's 100% there. So I think the thing is, like, if you look at the one where he starts turtling
10:43up, like the ref is already stepping in at that point. You think it's, you know, he's doing itafter the fact? Yeah, I don't feel that strongly about it. It wasn't. I don't feel strongly about it,but I think we've all seen a couple of more seconds, a couple more shots. Yeah, when I was watching it in real time,I didn't have the commentary on, so I didn't.hear them and I thought it was a it was a fine stop. He thought it was totally fine. I was like,well, man, was he really out? But then, you know, the fall backwards is bad. Like, he guysfalls. You know, you slip on ice, you fall. You don't look good in that moment.He fell because he got neat in the face, though. Pizzi, surely you agree. I mean, look at that.
11:20Agree with you, see, yeah, completely. Oh, geez.Couldn't care less. No, no, no, hang on a second, right? You, Cruz and all these lads sick of it.All right? This lad goes down like a sack of sports. He's, the referee, he's, the referee.is on him and he starts doing this as soon as he touches him, right? Randy, what do you wantthe ref to do? He is to react in a split second to make sure a fighter is or isn'tintensely defending himself. He jumps on him. Randy is out. He drops like a sack of spuds.He stops it and fair enough to your point and that screenshot that was delicately selectedthere for us all to look at is this as soon as the reference. No, no, no, listen, we're very
11:56unbiased here. I showed you the, I could, I could have ignored the other screenshot where he's outlike, you know, like a stiff board.We can't show the highlights here, so I'm trying to complete the entire picture here.So please don't insinuate.The point is, Randy Brown falls, the neck definitely goes back, the head goes back.But I think immediately he's unaware of where the referee is.His first instinct is to defend himself intelligently and look at the eyes.But the decision is made at that stage.
12:21You think so?Because it seemed like it was right before the ref stepped in, Mark Smith.It's moving so fast.I think it's on contact nearly.He's lifted up.And look, I think it's fine.I understand, like, if I'm Randy Brown,I probably don't think it's fine.
12:35But watching it, I've seen so much worse,so much worse than that.It's hard for me to get very upset about it, you know?I mean, the brought, what did you think, Rick?I thought it was fine.You thought it was fine?I feel like you guys just are saying thisbecause, like, it was a sort of nothing card.
12:52And I hate these conversations because...He's trying to start a fight this time.We demand, we demand the referee.Whenever, whenever it goes,two punches too long, we're like, oh my God, these referees, they're going to let somebody die inthere. They're the worst. Oh, my God, it'll kill them. And then if they do their jobs and they'regoing to stop it right before somebody's going to take those extra shots, we go, eh, you know what,it was too early. They have to ride this razor thin expectation that they stop it right at the
13:18millisecond the guy's eyes glass over, but not one millisecond before that or not one millisecondafter that, I just don't, I don't care, like, I personally don't care to debate on either sideof that. When it's a little, when it's a little late, I'm kind of just like, all right, when it's alittle early, I'm like, all right. Honestly, I also feel like the slip from Bonfim makes it lookmore, like you don't need to stop it because he falls also. It almost looks like a doubleknockout, but he's just slipping because of the knee that he lands. And if he stays standing,he probably ends up landing a couple follow shots on him. So you guys don't think this is like,Joseph Parker Fabio Wardley
13:56absurdI will say thishonest to GodI was watching it alsoI was watching it without commentaryand I saw it and I was likehmm and then I did the10 second back thing with commentary
14:12because I wanted to see what they say and I was happyto see that you know some reallywell respected future Hall of Fametype fighters agreedand then I went online and no oneno one agreed with me so you knowI saw a couple people agree with you.Sometimes it's, you know, listen, you have to be comfortable enough in my conviction
14:31and beliefs to put it out there and so be it.I'm not going to say it's as bad as the way the anti-Delia situation was handledor the Tom Aspinall situation was handled, but I will just say I thought it was justa smidge premature.All to say, though, Bonfim's a great fighter, and does anyone disagree with the take thatthis guy's in the mix?No, he's definitely in the mix.um he he's he's had a uh look he i think the reason he hasn't been in the conversation and in the
15:00mix of this point is like he kind of has these like up and down performances even though he hisrecord is pretty sterling against wonder boy like it wasn't like super impressive and so i thinkthere's kind of this like he hasn't had that definitive moment in the way that some of theseother fighters have uh to me this was this was a very uh definitive moment like against a guy asgood as randy brown who i think is as good as many of the guys in the rankingsThis was a very, very impressive finish.The knee was incredible.And even to that point, it looked like he had really crunch tape on Randy Brown
15:30was chopping up that leg, was chewing him up.I was very impressed by this performance.I think he's in a fight with any of these guys.So yes, I think you're right to point out that he's in this conversation for sure.Nice little finish there.I'm not trying to take anything away from him.Well, other than saying that it should have been.I just thought it was a smidge, a smidge.
15:49But other than that, it was a great win.He looked good.And here I am saying we should have been talking about himas one of the top dogs.And I feel like by the time this month is over, the next two events, he's going to be in themix.He's going to be in the mix with one of these guys.I'm not saying he's fighting for the belt or even two away from the belt, but I think he'll
16:05be fighting one of these names.Joseph Morales with a nice submission win, nice guillotine choke win against Matt Schnell.Uros Medich, with a great finish of Muslim Sarachov.Chris Tocopadilla got a lot of people talking about him afterwards because he went on themicrophone and essentially said, you know, I'd love a bonus and didn't get a bonus. And then I sawa lot of people saying, like, if you ask for the bonus, you don't get it. But I don't know if there's anysort of research that backs this up. That would be really weird if they're like, oh, you asked for it andyou don't get it. I mean, of course, the most famous one is Connor asking for the bonus and he did
16:43get it. But did you guys see this? This is strange, no? Yeah. What do you think of that? What do youthink of the UFC, seeing a guy win a fight and then being in the ring speaking for maybetwo minutes about, you know, how much he needs money. I don't think that's a look that theyencourage. I think we've had this conversation before about the way people go about asking forthe bonus. It obviously everyone, how many people have said like, you know, done the 60 G'sline since McGregor. There's been a whole lot of that. But I don't think the UFC want to portray animage of a guy who's fought for a number of times for the promotion.Granted, this is an apex card, but he's on the main card of this apex card.
17:25And when he wins, like, he's really kind of making a very, very strong point about how he hasno money.I just can't imagine that's a situation that they want broadcast around the world, you know?It's weird.And then afterwards, even at the post-fight press conference, he's very emotional, talking abouthis mother and trying to help her out.I just, there's two separate thoughts here.Number one, you're right.
17:51It's a horrible look.And I hope that it gets corrected by the time this Paramount deal kicks in in a little over or a little less than two months time.You know, that there's higher bonuses, that there's higher pay and all this stuff.They're making double what they were making with ESPN.So you would have to think, I don't know if everything's going to be doubled as well,but you would have to think that there's going to be a bump.so there's that there's that portion and then there's the other thought that it's likehey we're not going to reward people ask for that that seems cruel and i don't know if there's
18:23anything that backs that up i'd like to think that that's not the case um but yeah it's it's it is weirdwhen you're watching this and it's the major leagues of of mama and a guy just got a big winand the first thing that comes to mind is to beg for a bonus because his his pay isn't thatgreat and it doesn't help his family oh by the waya week after, you know, we're talking about people walking up, like, you get it, right?You know, like, people are going up to fighters and saying, hey, you know, here's a hundredK for you to throw this fight. Do you kind of understand now why some fighters are open to this?Do you kind of understand why this is a very easy thing to pull off?
19:05This is exactly it.Like, if I'm one of these shady characters and you hear this type of talk from a fighter,this is exactly the type of guy that you would think that they would try to,target, right? And it's, you know, it's just a little disheartening as a fan to see all thisstuff. You just wish that, you know, they were making a, in the major leagues of them, a morecomfortable wage so that they wouldn't feel the need to partake in the stuff that we talkedabout last week or to feel like they are forced to beg openly about this type of thing. It'sweird. Yeah, nothing to add to the former point. The former point, I think you've well stated,
19:42right in terms of the fighters need to be paid more and it opens the ufc and other organizations up tothe idea of people approaching these fighters to fix fights because of how suppressed their incomes arethe the latter point about like whether the ufc would penalize people for asking for bonuses i'mwith you i don't really see the correlation there i don't i don't believe it to be true i would alsosay that more often than not it actually skews like main card versus prelims right where it's like thein the bigger and girls in the bigger spots with the bigger spotlights get the performance bonusesand those are the ones that don't necessarily hop on the mic and beg for the for the bonusesbecause they are probably in a better lucrative position anyway so it's like a rich get richer
20:25situation and maybe it looks from the outside maybe there's a correlation but not a causationwhere you're looking at and just seeing these prelim fighters asking for it and not getting itbut maybe it's just more of you know they're they're lower in the car they're not in thebigger moments and they don't necessarily have it.Like, you know, Quillen Salkild is going to get a bonus because he put on that performanceand had that knockout, right?It doesn't matter whether he's a prelims or main card.But when it becomes a decision making, when it's like one versus the other, I do believe
20:57there's some numbers out there that lend credence to the fact that they look higher up thecard and give it to the people in the higher leverage positions.But either way, the solve for all of these things, whether that's true or not, whetherthe UFC does have this like secret policy where they don't reward people asking for.because they don't want to encourage that or not.The solve for all of this is them all just getting paid more.That is how we solve all of these things that ill.It's all just speculation.
21:20I mean, I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it.They gave Zach Rees, who was the first part of the night of bonus this week, yeah, CLD as well.Yeah, I mean, and who's to say that these other guys aren't struggling for money?And then maybe at that point, you know, if you're, if you only get a bonus when you ask for it, it's, it's kind of a messy situation.I don't I am in agreement with y'all I don't think there's any truth to that yeah I mean the bonus talk always is a little bit weird for me because that's just a discretionary thing yeah you know this is just a bunch of you know it's it's it's who knows it's Dana white it's Mick Maynard it's Sean Shelby who knows who's actually making the call here just deciding into your point GC Zach Rees was the first fight Josh Hokit was the other performance bonus winner he was the fourth fight Christian Leroy Duncan was like mid tier and then gotGabriel Bofim, who yes, was the main event, but it's not like he's making, you know,hundreds of thousands of dollars in that spot.I do feel for Chris in that he was fighting Ismail Bonfim, so Gabriel's brother who missed weight
22:20by five pounds.Yeah.And usually when that happens, the guy who misses weight wins.And here he is winning via second round TKO.And so I understand, you know, the feeling of, hey, I stepped up.He did get, you know, some money from Ismail as well.But that is a risk.Five pounds is a lot.
22:37is definitely a lot to miss byno he did everything rightand his entire UFC careerhas been nothing short of remarkablelike Taco's run has been absolutelyincredible because he's been an underdogseveral times stepping in on short noticenever like has done everything
22:53right in the UFC so you hate to seelike it tugs at the heartstrings morewhen you see a guy in his position like himhaving to ask for this havingto kind of lay this all out thereand be emotional about itit is particularly touchingit is particularly affecting
23:08but he just has to continue to do the right thingsbut he's been on an incredible tearand had such a great UFC runI think the sky's the limit for himCLD the aforementioned CLDChristian Leroy Duncan with thebeautiful spinning back fistwhich led to the TKO win over
23:27Marco Tullio so no fairy taleweek for Marco afterhis girlfriend Norman Dumont won the previousweek at theat the apex big winfor the Brit, Jamal Emmer's, with a win as well.Haoni Barcellos with a unanimous decision win,Jacqueline Cavalcanti,
23:45Josh Hokit, who's going to join us, Denise Gomez,Daniel Marcos, and Zach Reese,all with wins on Saturday night in Las Vegas.And we always talked about, you know,since this little stretch was announced,you know, two sort of ho-hum events,and then we get to the big one, UFC 322.So now we are past those.
24:07apex events. I think there's one more apex, right? There's the December 13th card, I think,is at the apex, and then that's it for the rest of the year. I think there's only four cardsleft, as crazy as that sounds. But we'll get into the 322 talk throughout the show, and of coursethroughout the week as well. There was a misfits card last night, guys. Who was locked inon misfits on a Sunday night? Anyone? Yeah, I wasn't. Yeah. Oh. No?I saw the highlights on Twitter.Petit, come on.I did see the highlights.
24:41Andre Arlowski with the big win.Arlowski now victorious in BKFC, dirty boxing, and in Mitzvitz.Look at this.Fourth round.46-year-old, right?Yeah.Do we know what the score cards were going into the fourth and final?Let me look that up real quick.
24:59No, I have no idea.Do they?They definitely don't release the scorecards.Andre, how's taste a knockout?Look at him just, I mean, going through the promotions, making the rounds.DBX, BKFC, his last three fight cards.Okay, let's just go four.UFC to DBX, to BKFC, to MF dual.
25:23And didn't he win all of them outside the UFC?Yep, 3 and L.Legend.What a guy with the big win over Kalechi, D-K, Dyke?Nailed it.Yeah.I don't know.D-Y-K.
25:36I don't know.I'm down there.No?Something like that.Which is tough.Yeah.Ashton H2 O.Silve making his Misfits debut, picked up a win.
25:45So going from MVP to Misfitsits.One of Pizzi's favorite fighters.I know he's a big B-Dave guy.Pete, you love B-Dave, right?You know that he...You inspired his Selly.Yeah.Yeah, look at this.
26:00Oh!Really great, Selly.Piztie, take it all in.Take it all in, won't you?Yeah, I just love to scrolet him.Oh, Jesus.I didn't know B-Dave was fucking throwing that out there.I thought you called him beforehand and gave that to him, P-C.
26:17What is that?What is he simulating there, G.There's a few things.I think he has them on his shorts.Oh, gee.I think it says Gok on his shorts or does it say B-Dade.I don't know.Gaw-N-O-N-N-O-W-W-W-Gaw-M-D-M-D-A.
26:31Tennessee logo on his shorts, too.Shout to the balls.You wouldn't want your mind sitting in front and open out, would you?saxophone? What is it?What is he doing? He's playing saxophone? What is that?One more time.Oh, yeah, that's what it is.Doing that. Wait, wait. I actually think I'm getting to the bottom of this.
26:46He's wearing, on his shorts, it says dollar sign gawk.Okay, okay.I think he, maybe he's promoting the gawk coin.Ah.Really high level stuff.What's that got to deal with what he's doing there, though?So you can, you can't see it. There's the, there's the dollar sign.I think it's a, I think it's a, a gawk coin maybe.
27:03Let's just see it again. I keep, I'm trying to figure it.Do me favor.Take it easy, bro.Let's just go to the beginning because I want to just pause.Just play the clip, but just pause it from the very beginning.I just want to pause it right here, pause it?Oh, as he's about to fall.Also, questionable stoppage here too.
27:19Questionable on RSS.Are you kidding me?Easy, easy.Look at the bottom left.Look at how he's faunted his opponent.Do you see that?Oh, that means.It's a Rod Stewart's son.
27:32No, no, not just that.That's what they called him on the broadcast.Yeah. Rod Stewart's son's down.It's actually Rod Stewart's son.Sean Stewart.What's going on?That's brutal, man.That's not way Rod Stewart's letting his son do this shit.
27:44They don't even call you by name.They call you by your Rod Stewart's son.A.K. Sean Stewart, who is now 0-1 in boxing.I don't even know if it's pro-bott.No, it's an exhibition.I don't know how they found it.You also know that was 15 seconds into the fight.15 seconds, and he pulled that off.
28:03He is a problem, man.He is a problem.loop.The sensors forsure.Man.What a knockout.You think someone flashed like
28:10apologies for the...Yeah, yeah, yeah.Oh my God.You say, uh, you say bollocks on there.They freak out.But meanwhile,that's fucking illegal.Yeah, B. Dave is going crazy.
28:19He's going crazy over there.Oh, yeah.Someone said, uh,dollar sign gawk tattooincoming at B Dave 69.Yeah, the developer of the dollar signgawk coin.Yeah.
28:31Yeah, I think he's promoting asome sort ofcrypto or something. Okay. All right.Well, that wasn't the only boxing thathappened on DeZone this weekend. Virgil Ortizwith the big win onSaturday. That was real boxing.Look at this.
28:46Against Lubin in the second rounddoes exactly what he needs to do.They go crazy.Boots Ennis in attendance.Eddie Heron in attendance as well.Are they finally going to make this fight?It's the fight to makeat 154 pounds
29:05there's Boots, there's EddieI liked itoh he says it's timeI love that they showed upsitting next to Alicia BaumgartnerI saw I saw Ortiz's teamafterwards saying Errol Spence is the fight to makegolly it absolutely
29:19is notthe fight to make is 100% Virgil Ortizyou see senior over there andboots someone on on Twittertweeted to Virgilafterwards and saidyou know thanks for winning me this moneyand Virgil got a little Isaac Dalgarian on him.
29:37He asked him for a tip.What do we think?What is that?Bulgarians pre-fight.Oh, post-fight?Cheeky little comment there from Virgil.That's the screen you get when you do that?They don't have that, by the way, in Europe, right, PT?
29:54They do, yeah.I don't know why Americans don't think you tip people over here.Everyone gets tips.Jordan only said this to me like two weeks.Before he was in, when he got home from Portland?He's like, oh, he's don't tip over there.I was like, no, we do.You're just being a dickhead.
30:07No, no, no, but they don't even put a thing.They don't even put a line.They do have the thing.They do not.I was literally just there.I live here.Who do you believe?Who do you believe?
30:14Who do you believe?I live in you.This is right out now.Okay, today I got a coffee and I hit the 10%.No, there's no shit.What's the percentage?20% restaurants.Wow.
30:24Wow.That's very American.No, I was told, chat, GPT, told me in Europe, you don't tip.Oh, well, then.I'm sorry.Yeah.I have been mistaken.Okay.
30:34Well, maybe that's why the better to know.True or false, when you go to a restaurant, there's no line.There's no line, but it comes up when you put the car thing,the same thing that Virgil Ortiz is put up there.That's what's going to hit you with that.This is crazy.This is absolutely.Is that for a coffee at restaurants too?
30:51Coffee, yeah.Restaurants everywhere.Here it's everything.Here's like I go get a water from the bodega and it's like tip.I mean, come on.I mean, I literally went to get the water.I literally went to get the water.Really?
31:01No, hell.Oh, okay.I wouldn't go.No, I'm not doing that.I'm not doing that in a corner shop or something like that.No way.It's not happening.Coffies, restaurants, all that shit.
31:11I'm keeping the fuck out of people.Pub?Oh, come on.What?Wait, what?If you get, like, a substantial amount of the drink over, I mean.Guy gives you, the Guinness.You don't put the one?
31:23Oh, you don't give them a, uh...Bar tips here are, like, mandatory, bro.Yeah.If they're bringing, if they're bringing...Like, say if you have a tab, yes, but if you're just going to the bar and now.How often do you have a tab?Like, is it just they close it out after every transaction,or do they let you keep a tab, usually?
31:39It's getting more tabby, I'd say.But like down your local, it's not happening.That's something like crazy you should have heard.You tip your barber?Yeah, of course.You're supposed to do that?So basically with the drinks thing,if it's down the local, you'll give them a tip if they,
31:54so say like they come around to the table and you're,which I'm eight and you're like, give me six points of Guinness.And they bring them to it.You'll give them a tip then.But if I went to the bar, if I went to the bar, I'm going to gossip myself.I mean, what are we doing there?Taxi driver, Pete?No wonder.
32:09Yeah, absolutely.Yeah, said it.You tip counter service?What's counter service?You guys call it takeaway, right?You got a pickup takeaway?Delivery.Well, we don't call it counter.
32:20No one's called it.Yeah, we call it takeout.The history of mankind.No one's called it counter service tonight.Yeah, what is that?But we have, what is that?We have drone delivery here now, you know what I mean?For real.
32:30It comes to your house for your house for your drone.own.Parks out and we back yard.Yeah.It will just get lowered into the garden.Serious.Are you messing around?No stress about the tip.
32:37No, I swear to God.It's only in Blanchard Sound as well.It's holding your thing like a stork holding a baby.Like it lowers it down on a string.Yeah, that's weird.And then the string just drops.And then you have to cut it off and take it.But you know, it's great.
32:51You don't have to worry about the tip then.You know what I mean?Yeah, it's no human interaction.Oh, the machine doesn't deserve a tip, huh?Well, you damage the machine.You start throwing coins out of you.You don't I mean, Frank?yes no for sure maybe our next guest knows a thing or two about this ptzee we'll we'll check in with
33:06you as we go around the world of combat sports back into the program but for now let usturn our attention he's got a busy week he doesn't want to sit around listening to ustalk about all of this he returns to action this saturday first fight at madison squaregarden it's a big one it's up against carlos preaches as we entered this massive massive weekthis massive seven-day stretch for the welterweights a man who is very much in thein the middle of all of that is the formerWalterway champion looking to make a big comebackbeginning this Saturday, the one and only the pride
33:34of Brum, the pride of Jamaica as well.Leon Edwards. Rocky Edwards, our old friend, is he there?Yeah, he's back. He's back, Leon.How you been, my friend? I'm all good, I'm all good.Just here in New York, Shireen. How you been?How's New York treating you?It's been good. The weather is same as the UK,so that's the same.
33:55It's all good. By the way, do you getdrone takeaway as wellover in Birmingham? Do you hear this stuff?That drone will get robbed.Once it lands.Someone would run away with it?Yeah, 100%. That gets stolen.It's only where PT lives.
34:12He lives in a very posh neighborhood, so he wasprobably used to...Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, we're veryexcited. We're very excited to have you back.Can we talk about the making of thisfight? How did we end up on this day, on this card againstCarlos Prachas? How did we end up here from yourperspective. The names that was put to me was it first. I think it was it was it was, it was
34:34trying to figure out where to have it. Was it to have it under the thumb card or New York? So theopponent was always the same. It was just more about what was going to be the thumbs card or thiscard. I remember when he won in August, he mentioned wanting to fight you, but he wanted to fightyou in Brazil. And I remember saying on that Monday, I don't see any scenario.in which Leon Edwards is going to fight this guy in Rio, right?Nah, definitely not.That wasn't a possibility.He fights for our own fights, and before New York was the perfect place.
35:09It's an iconic venue, so let's get it.Did they even present that to you?What?Fighting in Rio, yeah.No, no, no, no.They knew better.They knew better than that to actually go to Brazil.So, yeah, I feel like New York is the perfect spot.
35:25Did you like the idea of fighting him?Did it make sense to you?Yeah, I feel like he's coming off a good win or with Jeff Neal.I feel like he's got like a little energy around right now.So I feel that's a good matchup to re-represent myself to the world.And it's going to be a fantastic fight.Taking a step back, we haven't seen much from you, heard much from you since March, since the Sean Brady fight.How did you process that one?
35:52How did you digest it and what did you do to kind of get back on track?I feel like same as I do my winsI mean you just got to take it for what it isit is what it is you can't change ityou got to learn from itof the technical side of you got to learn from itand just getting everything backto where you want it you know
36:13and same as I do my wins when I winI don't really dwell on it too mucheither it is and it's got togo to come with a career you knowobviously the big switch waswas much talked about right you were supposed to fight jackJack then gets the title shot, Sean enters,but they were completely different fighters
36:30with different styles.In retrospect, do you regret saying yes to Seanon short notice?Obviously, it would have been perfectfor like an actual camp for like a proper campfor the change of styles and everything.But that's not what you get in the USC.You know what I mean?
36:49He's like, do you want to do yes, I know?And at the time, I fought in good shape.technical-wise, these two different stylistic matchup from what I was training for for the wholecamp.But like I said, if you can't sit here and make excuses, it is what it is.You got the win and it is what it is.So there's this influx of new blood, of new names at 170.And I feel like the sentiment now is like, okay, the old guard is getting passed by and here's
37:18this new guard.Do you listen to any of this stuff?Are you motivated by it?Do you get annoyed by it?How do you react to some of the talk surrounding?and you and some of the older 1-70-pounders?I feel like that's just like talk, right?Look at Kumari.
37:32It came out the other day and did great.There's other guys that's the NBA, we're won in the division.So I feel like all just talk.It doesn't bother me one bit.I think that's just the game, right?It's got a crack on.They're all big fights in the UFC, obviously.But does this feel like a must win for you?
37:53Does it feel like you have to win in order to remain as one of the top dogs at 170?Yeah, 100%.I feel it must have been all fights, but this fight is definitely a must have been for my plans.You know, I want to become a world champion.This is one guy that's in my way.So I feel like it's definitely to get me back to my plan.This is a perfect fight for me.It's crazy.
38:18When you look at your resume, you can make a very strong case that this is the first time since the Diaz fight.that you fought a non-wrestler, right?And that was, that was 2021,because then afterwards you had Camaro twice,Colby, Balal, Sean.That has to feel good, right?Yeah, 100%.I'm so excited for this fight.
38:39It's been a long time.It's been six years as well since my last three-round fight.And I'm excited to go out there and just mix it upand just get to work.You know, it's two different fighting styles as well.we find like a wrestler.It's too different from how you would fight like a striker.You know what I mean?
38:58So I get to show more skills and it's going to be a good one.That's right.Since the Gunner Nelson fight, right?Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.I didn't think of that.So how does that change?Like, are you still training five rounds or do you change the way?I train for three rounds.
39:14You know, I feel like when you train for five rounds,you might get used to the pace of the five rounds.And I think it's a perfect example.when I can't remember you did itand it kind of like started off slowlike it's fighting five roundsand I mean and for shitI'm only fighting three rounds
39:30I need to pay up so I feel likefor three round fightyou want to try to sprint ityou know and that's mymentality going into itso I've seen from the limited stuffthat you put out that you have kind of a planfor this fight and then
39:45the next couple fights in 2026so can you lay it out for uswhat are you thinking?For me I'll go out thereI'll take out Carlos from there.I want to fight again.It's come back to the UK in March, April.I love to be in that card,
40:01and then I want to fight for the World Tourarians in the summer.So that's my free fight plan.And who's the ideal guy?There it is.Is it Ian, as stated on this graphic?If you lose, then no.If he wins, then, yeah.is one of the annoying
40:18waterways in the divisionso that would be good to go out thereand smoke in the mountaindo you think he beats Bilalnext weekand Belar comes outand thinks he's from Canello againthen no
40:31but if it comes out andwrestles and holdand yeah I think against the victoryso it depends on how Bilaldecide to approach itI thinkwere you surprised that Jack beat Bilalno not really not really i think jack is a is a good fire you know i mean um like you said belaw fell in
40:54over his hands and if he could outstrike the striker and it didn't pay off you know and umif you can go into the fire i did pick jack i think so yeah uh the the the narrative in the aftermathof that fight was that bala kind of strayed away from his game plan but my my take on it was thatJack forced him to stray away from his game plan.What did you think it was?Did you think it was Bilal trying to prove that he can stand and strike with someone like Jack?Or do you think that Jack did a good job of keeping the fight standing him and keeping him at bay?A bit of both.
41:26I feel it's a bit of both, but also I feel like Below straight away from the game plan as far as listening to the fans and thinking, I can strike.You know, I mean, I can outstrike the striker.And so I think a bit of both, I would say.I think Jack also done great work.That's the reason why he wanted to fight.But at the same time, I feel like Below, probably starts believing too much in the fans and in his team or whatever it is and feeling he's outstrike the striker and he just didn't pay up.What do you think of JDM versus Islam this weekend?Who do you favor in that one?
41:59I'm still like going back and forth with it.I don't know.I don't know.It all just depends on how Islam look at 170.Can he go with Jackers are?He's good at scrambling.I mean, can Islam keep that pace at a heavier weight?whilst getting hijap-punch combinations while getting body shots, head shots, and then keep going.
42:18It all just depends, eh.I feel like if Islam comes out and just wrestles straight away, then obviously you have to go with Islam.But I don't know, it would be good.Have you seen?I'm just like to watch it as a fan too, for there.Yeah, yeah, no, it's a great matchup, it's a great card.Have you seen some of the pictures of Islam?He's looking.
42:37Yeah, he's looking filled out.He's looking filled out.I don't know.Is that boxing, remember when you used to move up to head?When you first foot, a heavyweight, he wasn't as light on his feet as he is now.I mean, I feel like it had to, like, build into the weight by bit.So, I don't, it all just depends.I don't know.
42:53You only wait, wait, and see how he looks with the weight on him.You know what I mean?It's just different, isn't it?I've seen some stuff, some photos of you.You're looking jacked as well.I mean, you're always in great shape.But look at this.Look at this.
43:04Look at that.Look at that, look at that, man, everyone.Come, come on.Now, like I said, I'll put working.I mean, my, my, I am.focus and ready and in good spirits and I'm excited to go out and perform, you know.Do you have a chip on your shoulder going into this fight, Rocky?Do you feel like people are starting to sleep on you, to doubt you?
43:22Yeah, 100%.I definitely want to, I think there's not really for the fans.It's more just for the team, you know, go out there and represent the team and justput back where it was and that's all it is for me.Have you seen that Carlos has your picture on his phone, like on his lock screen?Have you seen this?Yeah, a little bit weird, but...Look at this.
43:41What is going on there?Like usually you have a loved one, a child, or a girlfriend.I think it must have been a fan, in it.I think he had that picture before the fight was made.It must have been one of his idols growing up.So it's a fair play to him.He smokes a lot of cigarettes.Do you think that's weird?
44:02Yeah.Yeah.Well, people smoke cigarettes in general.It was weird.So that adds to it, I guess.So I know you called IanOne of the annoying welter ratesBut that fight that they had back in April
44:17Do you feel like he put out a blueprintAs to how to beat CarlosIt's his only loss in the UFCIt was his only lost for a whileDid you look at that fight as you knowAs you guys were coming toYou know to game plan and all that stuffYeah 100%
44:30Definitely I think thatThat fightAnd our fights I thinkI would approach it as a South BowlIt's different that Ian would approach itAs our fluxBut alsohe falls on what some of the stuff that he did he did some good work in there um but so did
44:44the other guys you know i mean even though he probably got the victory but it still did some goodwork in there um so i made my own game plan up with my team and we we'll approach out we see fitcan i ask like what like what what do you think ian did really well against carlos um i thinkmixing it up probably i feel i feel like um when they start and getting the takedowns i thinkthat that that changed the fight for uma few other things but yeah that's one of the one of the things what about this ian thing i meanwhy why so much animosity there he don't know it's weird it's weird i couldn't tell youit's weird um i don't know i don't know i don't know mate he's a weird guy i i asked him about
45:28the fight a couple of weeks ago and he said that he thinks you're you're going to getwhooped you're going to you're going to retire after this that you have no chance yeah it's weirdi want to be at the front to watch what she leaves and it's weird it's a it's a weird thingit's all because of just like the brief time you train togetherit must have beenit must have beenit must have fucking give us too muchlike too much work
45:48and if we're this guyyou know what I don't get itI don't get whereI don't get itbut it is what it is in itso win or lose in his fightdoes that one need to be settled regardlessno
46:02noI told him my planmy plan is to get that bout backyeahall righthe and biggest achievementright now in the sport is losing to Shafkatand that's that's facts
46:13you know what I meanthat's his greatest achievement that he canbrag that he didn't get finishedor that it leaves the Shafatyou know I mean like thatdoesn't for me and my plansit doesn't it doesn't it doesn'twhat about Jorge
46:29Jorge trying to make the pitchfor you guys at the White Househave you seen thatI seen it hereI see itthat's like he just got a slap on the streetyou know he like is me find horror now is probably i don't know what he does for my careeryeah he said that that's something that are but that's got to settle down the street now that's
46:50that's long gone um a professional competition but white house pretty cool no or does that not reallyreally yeah that is sick but that's more like an american thing you know i'm jamaicani know for my head are low to fight the white house sure well i feel like most fighters would sayyeah yeah if it happens it's sick because they're one of them one of them one officonic thing, you know, it's a sick thing to do. But I wouldn't like, so I'm like, I would beexcited as like a Kobe. You know, I mean, Kobe would be excited. So it's different. By the way,speaking of Jamaica, family and friends, okay? I know that the weather there has been very troubling.Everyone okay back home? Yeah, weather. The storm. Oh, yes. Storm. Yes, I know. I do. I don't,
47:36yes. No, everyone's good. Thank you. My family, they live in Kingston.which is at the center, so we're not really by the sea as much.They're still without electricity right now.But the house is fine, they're fine, and everyone's fine.But also there's great damage that happen on the outskirts of where the beaches are.And yeah, man, so I'm trying to help and get back.Speaking of Jamaica, did you know that the late-great Jamaican fighter,Mike McCallum, became the first Jamaican world.
48:10boxing champion at Madison Square Garden, October of 1984, defeating Sean Mannion over 15rounds. Did you know anything about this? He passed away earlier this year, and so here you areperhaps the, I don't know if you're the first since. Maybe there's been some others who wereborn, but I don't know if you looked into the history of Jamaican fighters at Madison Square Garden,kind of a cool little thing. Yeah, that's sick. I do know that. I'm going to watch a fight tonight.Yes. Yeah, I want to watch a fight. Who did the fight? What do you say? He fight a guy namedSean Manion. He won a 15-round fight. Unfortunately, he passed away earlier this year, but he wasthe first Jamaican world champion in boxing to fight at Madison Square Garden back in October of
48:521984. Oh, sick. Yeah, I don't have look at that today. Is this a, is this a, like, a notable thingfor you? You mentioned White House, but like Madison Square Garden. Is this something that you always wantedto experience? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. Like, even living in Jamaica, I know what Madison Square Garden was.You know, I mean, it's an iconic venue.Marlonaliyah's fort there.So on these venues that when you sit back when you're older,this is what you talk about, this where you speak about.I was a sport there, I did this.
49:20I went to here, I did this.I thought this venue is one of these,that every sports athlete would love to compete.And I get opportunities at the night to go out thereand remind the world of who I am and also cross out of bucket list.And I mentioned that you were kind of flying under the radar,but we did see you and your brother in August.This is the craziest thing.
49:41Three years to the day, same head kick or very similar.When you witness that and now you're on the other side, right?You're in his corner as opposed to him being in your corner.And then you come to the realization that it was three years to the day over, you know,what was it, August 20th of this past year with the time change and whatnot.How did you react to all of this?Crazy stuff.Yeah, it was crazy.
50:05He was mad, just like God's, God's plan, you know, it's like, it's mad, he's mad.But just to see him, God, and achieve one of his, one of his goals is mad enough, you know what I mean?But like I said, to the day, he's just, you couldn't, you couldn't write it, you know what I mean?And I'm proud of him, having it that he's doing, that he's achieved and what is going to continue to achieve.Do you feel like he's going to start to get his due as well, that people aren't just going to talk about him being your brother, but, you know, one of the best fighters in the world?Yeah, yeah, that'll be my, yeah.one of my things, my drawings to get him to the U.S.But he's doing very well in a better tour, he's happy and better tour.
50:39But for me, I love to get him where in the U.S. with me, you know.PFL, PFL, Beltored, no longer with us.Yeah, yeah.Just in peace.But yeah, it's been great in PFL, and I love to get him on my side, but he's happy there.We need to get him with Tim. What's going on?We need to get him with Timbo over there.Yeah, I'm trying to get him.
51:00Was he playing hard to get or what?Yeah. I think that brother thing, right, he wants to do like,something different from what is big brother's.I feel like, well, he doesn't go with Timson.That's the ticket to get into the UFC.Timmy boy, 100%.Yes.He likes to have a very small, like, tight-knit crew.
51:18He doesn't want to have a hope of it.I personally feel like it would make sense.Can I ask you Brady Morales?Who do you like in that one?Um,I haven't so much of Morales,but from what I've seen,I probably favor of Brady.
51:33So yeah, probablyBrady, yeah.Are you surprised that he didn't get a title shotafter your fight?Nah, I feel like he needed toprobably one more win,so this is probably the one thatif he does go out and get a good win,
51:48then that willprobably put me in positionfor a title shot probably.You think he wins thisand he fights the winner of Islamversus JDM?Um,I don't know.
52:00EOC is mad in itbecause Shabkat's still there.Yes.yeah it's all just mad for the division at the moment is wide open there's no likethere that's no more contender you know what i mean i think you can perform the best umover the next coming weeks i think let's see where everything everything lies you know so thatmeans like a decision win probably not enough right like you have to do something to yeah i thinkbecause right now it's like a tournament isn't it right now it's like three fights on my card then you
52:27got um uh bill allen in another card so i feel like it's like a little tournament stuffWorld White.So whoever performs the bestand stand out the mostwill probably get the nod.You know what I mean?So let's see.Did you see the young man
52:42this weekend in the main event?Another great 170 ponderGabriel Bonfimstopping Randy Brown.Yeah, yeah, yeah.I was a bit upset with thatbecause if Randy Brown is Jamaican.Yeah.
52:51I was kind of on his side.But yeah, you done well.Fair play, you know.I got a lot of shit.I thought it was a premature stoppage.What did you think?A little bit.It should maybe give him,
53:01for the main event,So I feel I should give it a little bit more leeway.That's right.It was a little bit.He was like a knee dropped and it stopped it.He didn't even get to like drop or grind upon or nothing.And it still looked like he was about to move.But either it is, that's the game, eh.
53:19Let me ask you before I let you go.The whole Tom Aspinall situation with the eye pokes and all that.What did you make of that?You're made Tom kind of getting a raw deal there, I thought.What did you think of how it all played out?Yeah, I think so.I think the fans it was giving him a hard time.but I also feel like it didn't help himself by continued posting about it days after.
53:36You know what I mean?I feel like it was an illegal, I poke.And obviously, if you can't see, you can't see, you know what I mean?So I think we're with a friend who's getting on to him because he kept posting about itand holding his eye and stuff.You can't see, you can't see in it as an athlete.That wouldn't be a good place to be competing when you can't.If you generally can't see, then you can't see.
54:00Right.So you think you shouldn't have put out the video blog?and all that stuff. Is that what you're referring to? Yeah, I think we're probably just like theaftermath of it is what the fans have probably come more talking about because he's keptlike talking about it. That's probably what it was, but actual in the actual foul was a foul.I mean, and either it is. And it is. And it's, I can't see, I can't see, I can't see,I can't see Tom Quinn. I mean, he's a, is a elite fighter. So that, that, that wasn't it.But I think it's more just the way ended after where the fans were.
54:32kind of like going against it it's a crazy thing right like one of the best fighters in the worldheavyweight champion everyone thinks he's looking for a way out because he got a bloody nosethat's the game isn't it that's how that's how it goes you know i mean when it comes back nowunless it comes back a smoke zero then he'll be like oh yeah is i mean that's just what the game isright uh how you feeling about ashton villa um feeling good i've been i'm watching a game now forwell you're off the bandwagon that's it no no no no no no i've been in campWhen I'm back, I'll get back to my football routines.All right, so it's comeback season, begins this Saturday.
55:11What are we thinking?Submission, knockout, what are we thinking?Either submission or knockout.If I go on the ground, I'll twist them up, but I feel like I want to, I got to make a statement.I mean, for me to get back on track to where I left off, and I'm going to make a statement.Looking forward to it.Thank you, Leon.Appreciate it, as always.
55:30Good luck this Saturday.Can't wait to see you back in there.Good man, thank you.There he is.Leon Rocky Edwards, the former UFCWalterweight champion.Massive opportunity for himto get back on track.
55:40And he is right.There is a lot at stake right nowin the Walterweight Divisionand it's moving week.Gabriel with the big win.So he's putting pressure on these guys.Islam JDM going to do their thing.We showed the footage over there of Islam
55:57looking jacked.Islam looking jacked.looking like he's in good shape over there.Usman.Islam.Looking Jack.I wonder how much weight he's going to have to cut.He's looking big.
56:18Looking good.I'm really curious to see how he looks.I love this fight.Jack doesn't do a lot of shit talking,but he's a very fun fighter.I saw Islam yesterday at the Knicks game,hanging out with the best power forward in the league.Carl Anthony Towns, number 32 for New York Knicks.
56:35Yeah, look at that, getting the 322.Getting the 322 jersey.What a great honor.Kat's a big fight fan.He was probably stoked.I don't know if, I think the Knicks are in town.I know they're playing Tuesday, Wednesday.Let's see, let's see.
56:55The Knicks in town.See if the boys are going to be going to the game.Brian Daibble.all fired.I'm going on my Yahoo Sports app, guys.Checking things out.Shout out. Best app for all things, sports.It's my favorite.
57:09Quick, can customize it.Oh, yeah.Can see what's what?Nick's playing Tuesday against Memphis.Orlando Wednesday.Friday, Miami, Monday at Miami.So the question is, oh, you know Coach Mike Brown'sgoing to be in attendance.
57:22They could just go on Sunday.In fact, I actually think it's better.I actually think it's better thatthat they don't,I prefer them to go like Sunday night to Miami.Stay away.Stay away from Miami.Nothing good happens over there if we're an athlete.
57:39What are we trying to figure out here?Whether or not that's going to be at 3.20?Yeah, because he's a big Knicks fan.Oh, sorry, he's a big fight fan.But Mike Brown's a huge UFC fan.Coach of the Knicks.Maybe the whole team pulls up.Jalen, O.G., Mikhail, Mitch, Deuce,
57:56Hook Portie, Mohamed, Diawara,You know, the whole squad.I think Joe Mazzul is going to be there for Jean-Weley?Mm-hmm.Well, he's living in Boston these days, so I doubt it.Not really welcome around these parts, you know?Yep and a hop, you know.Leon Edwards.
58:14What do you think?Who's the favorite in this fight, by the way?I believe Carlos Prochise is.For real?Yeah.Wow.Yeah, Carlos Procha is minus 200.Yo.
58:23On Rocky Edwards plus 117.What do you think?Flyer?H-Dow.H-Dow.What do you think?I said it not me.Are you surprised by that?
58:32I'm not shocked just because of the last two performancesagainst Balal and obviously Brady back in March.Totally different fighters, though.Yeah, I agree, I agree.And also, if you go back and watch the process against Ian Gary,it wasn't an amazing performance, man.I mean, those first four rounds were struggling.Yeah.
58:46Yeah, it could get interesting.It could get interesting.You're sprinkling?I don't know if I'm going to sprinkle.It feels like a fight that I just don't bet on.Really?Yeah, a little cigarette break, you know.I don't know.
58:56I mean, a huge opportunity for Carlos.All right, all right, Leon H'd L.O.Stamp it.I mean, I feel like that's the most interesting.By the way, who's the favorite in the main event?Islam Bankership minus 250, JDM plus 210.Minus 250.This one doesn't surprise, man.
59:11The disrespect.Yeah, no love for the champ.Okay, JDM, Leon.Who's the favorite in the co-main?Alentina Shipchenko, minus 135.What?Yeah, Zhangwee plus 115.That one, I'm betting.
59:24I could be convinced for it.Okay, that's three.Brady and Morales, I'm going to say he's probably going tobe Brady, right? Brady minus 139, Morales plus119. Yeah, that's even closer than I thought too.You're thinking a little h-d-d-d-out Parlesi?Yeah, and then what about BSD?BSD minus 185, Vanielderiouf, plus 160.
59:44You can make a very strong case for those fourright there.Bonicol minus 230 at all Avaea plus 195.Okay, okay, okay, well this is very fun.There's a lot to be excited about. By the way, when we play thatclip for chill, can we put the sound on here?so that he hears it we didn't talk about this absolutely okay frankie thank you appreciate thatall right uh let me put this in and let me put this in one second just give me a moment
01:00:11i have to turn this on here oh i just unplugged it it's a whole mess of a situationneed to figure out a better way with this that's on me uh it's always a great pleasure to bejoined by oh yes yes you're talking to me let me just put this in is it is it showing upon my thing over here what's happening what is happening does it look nice it looks greatman clean oh yeah look like you're ready i hear you okay god what can you say what can you sayabout our our next guest who's joining us in studio for three years we were partners we wereco-pilots there was no eye in team we revolutioned in the ufc slash mima era to the worldwideleader he's in town i do believe for 322 comings and goings i mean he's
01:00:58He's a man who needs no introduction, often imitated, never duplicated.The inimitable one, the one and only, the American gangster.There he is.Yeah, the bad guy in the house.What is up, Ariel?Come on, bring it in.I love my girl.I love it.
01:01:16How are you, I sincerely miss you, it really is very good to see you.The double undernooks.Are you going to Teddy Atlas as a man?I am, I am.Are you going?I didn't get invited, but I don't think it's, I don't think it was a slide.I think because I went.Last year that Teddy was more of the, I think that he was more of the mind of, you know,
01:01:33because it's hard to get there from Oregon.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It's probably easier for you to be a return.I think you stuck around.I'm not offended, but I'm not offended.I'm bothered because I had such a great time.You, me, Leif Schreiber.What was that like?
01:01:44Did you meet him?Yes, I was sitting right next to you.You were hogging it up.My favorite part was when you whispered to me and said, what's that guy's name?I mean, this is Leavs Schreiber, one of the all-time great Hollywood actors.And I'm a big fight fan too.Yes.Ray Donovan.
01:01:58Yes.I think you actually called him, Ray.Well, there's another one.Michael Shannon is who I kept.So I kept calling him Michael.I thought it was Michael.I thought it was Michael Shannon.You were actually fan-boying.
01:02:11Oh, and he was cool, dude.He was a regular guy.He was a regular guy.Good friends with Usik.That's right.So he knew all the boxing stuff,and then he was sharing me with Usik.Well, through being friends with Usik,
01:02:23so he knows Zelensky.He knows the president of Ukraine.All of a sudden you're talking to this guy.and you're one step for it was just amazingI just really enjoyed itand I told him that I said hey I know I'm probablybeing a little annoyed but this is a big deal for meto meet you and he was he was cool man
01:02:38he was cool. They're not all coolyou know they have that expression you know don't meetpeople you like because you leave disappointedand it really is true most of them are realpricks I've only met a few not youStallone was great okay Robert De Niromight surprise you but he he treated us allso nicely that I feel like I owe him
01:02:54to tell people oh the movieI did a movie yes yes yesA political, by the way.I mean, De Niro did not have a political opinion at that time.But now he does.Yeah, now that's kind of changed.But how would that even come up on set?It actually came up, fun, you should ask.
01:03:09So I'm just there.Me and Goldberger are just there, but Stallone and De Niro are talking to each other.Okay.We're listening.What was this movie again?They're like the two older gentlemen.Yeah, what was that called?I forget.
01:03:19Grudge match.Grudge match.Grudge match.So, Stallone versus De Niro, they ultimately boxed each other.at any ratethere was an Academy Awardor an Oscar the night beforeand whoever went up
01:03:34made it politicalso Sloan just made the commentto De Nara hey Bob he says he sayshey they shouldn't do that thereRepublican or Democrat but that's notthe place and De Niro just he didn't really speakbut he nodded his head and agreed that was itnow he's saying he's leaving the country
01:03:49yo he was pissed manhe was cutting promos on Trump in the streetsand the shutdowns overdid it end no but IApparently, they've made an agreement.Okay.Apparently, the stock market shot through the world.Last time this happened, and it doesn't mean it'll happen this time, but the phenomenon
01:04:05of the bounces there, last time this happened for perspective, within five days after thegovernment reopened, Bitcoin tripled, went up 300%.And we're seeing it with the stock market right as we speak.It's up 5, 6% just on this news.But I don't think that's signed yet.Are you big Bitcoin guy?I'm not a big Bitcoin guy, but I'm involved enough.to know about Bitcoin.
01:04:28I got bigger into the alt coins.What's that?Altcoins is anything that isn't Bitcoin.Anything.There's other coins?Ethereum light coin.Okay, okay.I didn't even know this.
01:04:37Yeah.Any coin not called Bitcoin is called an alt coin.I love when you,like you wake up at like 3.30 in the morning to watch the news, right?Yeah.What time you usually wake up?Well, I, so that's, it's actually 6.30.Six 30 in East Coast is 9.30.
01:04:53Yeah.So I'm up, but it takes me a little bit to wake up.So I got to get up and I got to get coffeeand then I can get back in bed, watch the newsand then I can see the market open.But I do that.But my question is, without getting too personal,you've shown me pictures like you're watching in bed.
01:05:06Yes.Doesn't this wake up your missus?Miss Brittany is an early bird.Oh, she's up as well.She's watching the news with you.And then Priya, she's usually the one that gets our coffee, in fact.And then Priya, our daughter, still sleeps in the room.Tharo's moved into the living room.
01:05:21What do you mean?What do you mean?Priya has a, well, she calls it a camping spot.She gets out every single night,She sets up a bed in our room.On the floor?Nah, she's actually a little move up from the floor.She's got kind of like a cot that you have.
01:05:33But she puts it away every day.Every day gets it out, gets out her covers.How come she just wants to be close to mom and dad?She's still scared.She's seven.Okay.So she still gets a little bit scared at night, which I'm into.I used to have both of them in the room.
01:05:45And he one day moves out, but with no warning.He doesn't say like, hey, I'm kind of getting to the age.One day, he was gone.And it was so disappointed.Every night was fun.Nice, yes.I like it.Do your prayers, you watch you read a book or whatever.
01:05:58And then one day was just gone.It was just taken from me.I wasn't ready for it.And now he's in the living room.He's in the living room.He has not gone upstairs.Yes, he's on the couch in the living room.What?
01:06:06Yes.He doesn't have a bedroom?And he falls asleep.This is not a political.He falls asleep to Fox News every single night.Every single night.How old is he?He went his Trump for Halloween.
01:06:16Oh, nice.Well, in our neighbor, yeah.Did it go over well?Not terribly.Not terribly well.There was only one guy in the whole neighborhood that advertised, but he was,was one of those, he like had the signs in the yard, anyone but Trump andoh dear, Kamala Harris signs in the yard. So that's the first one that Thera went to.
01:06:33And he's got like the $8 mask from Amazon. But then he's got the tie and all of that.And then he took the time to take Britney's lipstick and put like it was blood on the ear.Oh dear. So when he goes and knocks on the neighbor's door, the neighbor realizes I'm beingheckled. He realizes you've seen my signs and you've picking and he loved it. The neighbor wasawesome. Oh, he was okay with it. Oh, he complimented it. He said what good. He gave himdouble candy, like, you know, he steered into it, but it was cool.How did that dinner go? By the way, I believe your father-in-law's here.Yes, Steve.
01:07:01Hello, sir. How are you? We were talking. I was like, man,Chil's just hanging out to the big city with his father-in-law.We've been having a great time. Just the two of you.Yeah. We came out here. I don't know if I would do that, to be honest.Yeah, well, we, it's, I don't come to New York with how. He turns out he's a New York guy.Okay. He's from a small town just like I am. He lives across the bridge in Vancouver.I'm in Westland. He comes here one time. He's like, I love it. And then he doesn't sleep. Hesleeps like three and a half hours a day. So it's the only place where at four in the
01:07:26morning he can go get a coffee and actually, you know, walk around and watch the sun come up.So I told him, I said, I'll never go to New York with how you. In fact, Glenn, Glenn Jacobs invitedhim. Glenn left ESPN and still got Steve a ticket. Wow. I don't know if Glenn'sgoing to the event and he got, he made sure Steve was handled. True story. You always comewith either your mom, your, your father-in-law, you never fly solo. I'm in high demand.Okay. And I don't ever want there to be a rumor. Okay. I don't ever.want Brittany to have to live with the room so yes I try to never leave town without herher dad or my mom is that true I try to wow just just on the mere fact that I want her to I just
01:08:03want her to mean like hide demand as in like people want a piece no there's girls out thereyeah yeah yeah no no no but I just say like there's weird things that happen there's weirdthings that happen I just think it's safe I think it's safer to have a witness I just do I lovecall me call me whatever you want but yeah it's great to have you in here chale it is greatto be I love these I love the Danielgot a singlet on by the way yeah we have one of you somewhere all right so this isdusty roads what about this this is old school round five do you remember round five yeah so i bought thatyou know you can't buy your own statue or you're you're a fool so i but i did i bought my own and i've got it
01:08:40this one the round five yeah it's in my office it's sitting on the other side i mean i got it itcame in the mail i sat it on the other side of the room i think someday my kids might want thisand months go by and i'm finally working on my computer one day and i look acrossthe room. Not only is it not me, it's Dominic Cruz, but I thought it was me. I had this thingfor months and thought that is how much we looked. Yes, yes, yes. I remember. I have that one,I have the, we got the British Bulldogs over here. Remember them? What? I love the British.What about that story? No, I got to tell you story. So you got Dusty Rose. Okay, yes, dusty. Okay, butthere's another guy that kind of looks like Dusty, kind of like I look like Dominic, called the
01:09:14playboy buddy Rose. Yes, you happen to remember him. Of course, from Morgan. Okay. Thank you verymuch. So Matt Linlin starts a show. That's a great caller. Yeah. He'd love to be on this. Do you thinkhe knows you're on right now? He knows I was coming on. Did he take the time to do the math that it's rightnow that I don't know? Can we say who it is? Yes, sure. Say it. Douglas Crosby. Why did I say?Why did you know? I didn't know if you want to go to this. Famous. Famous judge. Infamous. Infamous.Infamous will work. He could live with infamous. Is he still judging? He judged two nights ago. Steve and Iwent to it. It was a fight out on Long Island.Okay. Yeah, he did, he did a small show out there.
01:09:51He did not get assigned to the UFC.And, of course, all judges would like to.He did not get a sign, but he is licensed if that answered the question.They're working. So, Playboy Buddy Rose.Okay, store that away. Portland, Oregon. Matt Lindlin.Matt's doing a show called Sport Fight.Remember.So Matt decides he's going to bring in Playboy Buddy Rose, who's going to do nothing more
01:10:11than get in the ring and cut an interview, whatever.So Playboy demands $1,500.for this gig, and by the way, needsit in advance. So Linley gives him a checkfor $1,500. After the event,there was a line, and it wasreally honor system. You waited in a line, you got to thefront, there was one bookkeeper, she's like, what do we owe you?
01:10:29And then she just write you check.Honorable, but nobody lies.Playboy got back in the line and went, and he got another $1,500.Oh, my God. So, Matt,instead of just chonking it up to $15,Matt sues him, and they end upin small claims court. Now,Playboy doesn't deny
01:10:44any of these facts. He agrees to the facts,But he tells the judge, this is the point of me telling the whole story.He tells the judge, he signed the check.I got this fair and square.And the judge is like, no, you ripped him off.But fair and square.He tried to argue that.Judge rules against him for 1,500.
01:11:03Leland says, how do I get the money?And the judge says, oh, there's no way.And then the judge goes even further.And he tells Matt, he goes, it's not a crime in America to not pay your bills.And he brings the gavel down and they all get up a walk out.And he never got it.No, he never got it.Legend.
01:11:16A real worker.Now he died.Rest his soul,but he died.He was most famous.He did an angle with Piper,and it was,whoever wins gets the pink Cadillac.
01:11:27The other guy won.Was this an Oregon wrestling?Yeah.And they kayfaved it.Wow.I think Playboys won the pink Cadillac.No,Piper had it,
01:11:33so then Playboy beat himand Playboy drove around Portlandand the pink Cadillac for a week.But that was the old school days.That's the days I miss,by the way.Oh, my God.Those are the territories.
01:11:41Yeah.Did you know Piper?I'm not as dead set on traditionas Josh Barnett, but I'm close.I agree with Josh.You don't need to let us out on all these secrets, guys.Okay, with the Unreal and all that,how the sausage is made.
01:11:55Yeah.Did you know Piper?Yes, I did.His son, Colt Toom.That's right.Was a teammate at Team Quest.Did a number of fights and fought at the Roseland,and Piper would come down and support him.
01:12:05Wow.But we thought it was a huge deal, but they didn't understand why we thought it was a big deal.Like, Colts was like, why don't want to talk to my dad?You know, he didn't understand.So, yeah, we got some interviews with him.Piper got in the ring and did some stuff.Piper was cool.Piper gave me a piece of advice.
01:12:17Please, please.I never forgot it because it turned out to be true.And everybody hated me.And I was going for the, I'm going to work this bad guy gimmick.And that's a hard.That's easy to come on and tell you, oh, I didn't mind the booze.It's hard to be hated.It's hard.
01:12:31And he told me, he said, Chale, you got to stick with it.And don't ever change.He said, but there will be a day that they will love me to the fans.They will love you for the exact same things they hate you for.He said there's a misunderstanding with the crowd in wrestling that we do these turns.He said it's actually the crowd that turns.We, as performers, largely, continue the same gimmick.We just get a different reaction.
01:13:02And that is psychologically not what I thought I was witnessing.I did think there was good guys and bad guys.And I realize it's not an absolute statement.But that was what he said to me.And then it did happen to me.People that hated me for the same stuff would all of a sudden they, they became cool to be a fan of yours.Yeah, when I'm telling them, I hate it, when I hate you, I have a whole country, blah, blah, blah, then all of a sudden, I never, I never came off the stick, but, but they, they did come on board.It was one thing that I appreciate it.
01:13:29You remember when that happened?Not fully. Not fully.but but I do I do remember when it happenedand even still to this daylike I just I just I just lost ormisunderstanding but allegedly I lost a Craig Jonesin the rapidly match but I had people telling melike like Joseph Morales sends me a text and he's like
01:13:48coach that was incredible defense I never thought toto do that to get out of the hold which is togo uncautious so but I mean you see wellthey're now in on the stick I'm claiming that I'm undefeitingand now they're claiming like Joseph is telling me likethat was great coach he let you go like that was I've never seen that before I don't know if I told that story very well but no no no he had a nice win hey why is nobody talking about Islam versus Jack are you feeling that in the city this is a little bit low I want to get well I want to get to that in a moment but while we're on the topic of your influence I do I'm dying to see you buddyit's a friendly level I've missed you I miss you too we had some great times the charcutory back at the events imagine you live imagine you lived in this area we could do this every yeah would you ever consider moving no I would never leave west I'm about to run for governmentNo, I'm doing the opposite of moving.
01:14:34Did you have that dinner, by the way?I did.I met Chris Dudley.How to go?How to go?Have you officially made your decision?No.Well, I'm hoping to this way.
01:14:42It's a simple matter of do I get brought over or not.I made a deal with Dana and told her, hey, if if you find out.If I'm part of this, I will go.But in exchange, then I want your help to win the.Sure.When do you find out?Well, I just assume that it might be this week or soon.I mean, they're kicking off in January.
01:15:01I don't think that Paramount.has set a date, have they?No, no.There's a rumor that Ilya is going to headlinewhether that's right or not.But I don't know that that date,but the bottom line is,if we're going to do something,
01:15:12I would feel like they need to put their team together pretty quick.Would you rather do?Well, I am for sure going to run for governor, for sure.But I didn't know it was going to be this cycle.I did think that I was going to run in the next cycle.Now, that from a political standpoint is almost a death nail of an answer.I mean, you know, you've got to give an answer thereor it's nothing more important to this. I've got a calling
01:15:34from God and I've got like, this is the thingbut I kind of get annoyed when guys do that.It's like, you can tell the truth. If you're lookingto pitch in and help out, but you need timingto be right for you and your family, I don't think there's anythingshameful about saying that. Why open yourself up to this?Why? Yeah, why? I agree.Yeah, why? When I was talking with Ray Donovan, he said that to me.
01:15:52He did? I brought it up to himOkay. Meaning, hey, down the road,I'm going to need a donation. Like, I was letting him know.Okay. I'm letting you know now.Wow. At that. At thatsame dinner? Yeah. If you give me your phone number, there's going to be a day and it's going to cost you money.So I let him know. And he said that too. He said, hey, you got a great life. He said, why would you do that?And I've never had the answer to that. I've always thought that was the field I was going to go into.
01:16:16As young as I can remember, on the first day of school, they would have us write down what we're going to be when we grew up.And I would always write, President of the United States. And then at some point, I realized I didn't want to go to D.C., and I just started writing down governor.So I've never known there was going to be a daythat I was not going to be in that battle.I've been planning for this from day one.And your wife's okay with this?Because now it opens up the whole family.You know, it's a little bit of a problem with her.
01:16:40And then when Charlie Kirk got shot, that really weighed on her.And she will back me.And I, of course, will take her opinion as well.But no, to tell you that she's just okay with it,no, this keeps her up at night.She's very concerned about our family and things in Oregon.and she just thinks the way that I would go about itwould be more of the Charlie could the more very aggressive
01:17:03here's here's our stance and we're proud of itand we're not going to say sorryand she thinks that that could open you up to dangerwhich is a very real concern historically Oregon Democrator very very very okay in my lifetimeand I'm I tell people I'm 50 I'm not but I'm right therein my lifetime there has been one Republicanwinner yeah this would be a huge deal
01:17:25it'd be a very big deal and it's hard to doit's a very hard state to flipAnd then I got like a personal problem, which is the gal that I would have to beat is named Tina Kotech.I like her.That's a problem.That's a problem.Like these things get ugly.I've never met her, Ariel.
01:17:40But you want to talk about somebody that goes in and does the job she was elected to do?You want to talk about somebody that puts in 50, 60 hours a week and doesn't complain?Let me tell you something real fast.She is the first, and I believe she's the only openly lesbian governor in America.Do you know the attention she could get for that?Do you know how she could be on CNN every night she has never used thatshe has never used that politically she has never brought her wife out she keeps herbusiness she goes in and does her job and I think it's very honorable I happen to
01:18:09disagree with what she does but that will make the fight tough okay I there Irespect her no no I mean you don't hear that often no no it's a problem buthow do you then you were asking me about Chris Dudley and somehow I got onTina but but but but Chris is is very interesting too he was in my living roomMy uncle Mel Counts was a big star in the NBA before Chris.And I thought Chris did a very great job.Chris is pro-choice.That's very tough for any Republican.
01:18:39But in a state like Oregon where you're going to need to win some blue votes,it is also a very common opinion that that might be the way to reach across the aisle.So I liked Chris Dudley, I guess is my answer.I'm jumping in directions, but I liked him.We're going all over the place.I was trying to get.Josh Hokit, you feel?familiar with this young man?
01:18:57Of course.Okay, okay, I want to play this for you.Please.He's actually coming on after you, but I want to get your reaction.I only heard about it.I haven't seen it.You haven't seen it.No, and you posted something.
01:19:06You posted something.And I clicked it, but I didn't, I didn't get to hear the interview.All right, here it is.I watched him finish.You go.Josh wins Contender Series.Here we go.First official win in the UFC this Saturday.
01:19:16He gets on the microphone and says this.All right, here we go.On the talk of the town, the USA sound, the most profound.The boy.Toy, the lady's joy, the master of disaster, the true speaking, pastors, pastor.The biggest arm, the most charm, the one that's going to do all the harm.I'm more than meets the eye.I'm even sweeter than your grandma's homemade apple pie.
01:19:48And last I'll leave you with this.Homemade.I already stumped two Brazilians, and I'm looking for a third.Whoa.Walter WalkerYou absolutely suckOkayThat's a hard call out right there
01:20:01But yo, that is youYeah, he did fantasticThere's multiple referencesSo what'd you think?And I of courseI got inspired by other peopleBut okay, if he was paying meSome homage there
01:20:10I, Steve and IWere out doing somethingWhatever, oh we read the fightThat Douglas wasOkay, it's all tying togetherSo Steve and I are getting updatesAnd Oban Elliott startsStart reaching hold of me
01:20:21And he goes, hey manIf you say this guy's in the clubI'm reaching out to him to let himNo. So I'm like, all right, let me call Colby. We got this little bad guy group going on.So anyway, the bottom line was everybody gave him the thumbs up, man. I'm on board with this guy.Do you know him? Personally?I followed his career because he was a wrestler at Fresno State who All-American while playing a full season of football.He wasn't even supposed to wrestle. Not only did he wrestle, he all-American. And it wasn't because he was good. It's because he was tough.
01:20:50I remember watching him. He fought so hard. And he outworked those other.guys and I just happened to remember that then he did a smaller fight I want to saythey put it on fight pass and he cut a kind of a similar promo he brought somepolitics into he had the flag which is just gonna piss people off and I thoughtfrom an entertainment standpoint I thought he really went for it I think he did a goodjob there hey what about the homemade pie it doesn't have to be homemade yeah from anartistic standpoint he could have just said sweeter than your grandma's pot why's itgonna be a homemade pie that's brilliant no that's you like delivery what I'm
01:21:21saying you know we we sit here like we I say I like weyou and break it down, but after a fightto remember all of that, you just won.That's not easy. No. No stumbling.Right. Didn't miss a line. Everythingflowed and rhymed. And Paul canscrew him at any point. At any point,Paul can pull that mic away. So first off,
01:21:39you got the hand on Paul letting him know staywith me. Second, you've got to getthe scarf on, you've got to get the glasses on, you've got toknow where the angle is. And then you've got to gofor you start calling out Brazil. I just beat uptwo Brazilians and another one and you suck.Those are dangerous lines.I mean, they just are.
01:21:55Walker is a good fighter, by the way.I hope he does get that.The problem is it's at the apex.There's three people there.There's no pop.You know, you do your call out of Anderson in Houston sold out Toyota Center.Sure.There's a different reaction.
01:22:06Sure.But he still went for it.He went for it.And what did you tweet at?You said, I mess with it.I fuck with it.That's what the kids say, yeah.But then I said three people, you know, three people.
01:22:15It doesn't land the same, you know?But he's going for it.He gets the same credit.We're talking about him.He'll be on the show today, in large part, due to that.There you go. There you go.Can he beat Walter Volcker?Well, see, that's the thing, and that's the thing that I think I admire the most, is he is in
01:22:32over his head.Yeah.But I respect, if you're going to call a guy out and you're going to go pick on a guy,I think it's honorable to pick on a guy that's better.And he can raise himself up.That's one thing about him.I saw some of his other fights before he got in the UFC, and I saw his Contender Series inhere.
01:22:47One thing about it is he is growing rapidly.Remember when Otisanya did that?Izzy comes on Contender Series and was kind of.I think it was even a split decision and take him down and hold him there.And that was like the belief.And then in his next fight, they took him down, but he got up.And then in his next fight, he's in there with Derek Brunson at the garden,and he doesn't get taken down at all.
01:23:08And then his next fight becomes the number one contender and then becomes a champion of the world.I mean, like if anybody had grown between fights, but I'm seeing a little about,I'm seeing a little about this gentleman right here.How does that make you feel internally?Like, there's a guy paying homage to you.Yeah, it made me feel wonderful.Yes.It's an amazing feeling.
01:23:23Yes.When I did that to some guy, by the way, it didn't all make them feel good.Like Scott Hall came after me and, you know, rest of soul, but said that I should be 10%.And Billy Graham I got a hold of, and that was through Brian McMahon put us in contact.But Billy was in a senior living, and apparently he was upset until we talked, and then he took it as a compliment.There was a guy called Lynn Denton, the grappler.Okay.And he was probably the only guy that got it and was like, yeah, take it, of course.
01:23:53I took from someone you take for someone's going to steal it from you.And I think that should be more of the attitude.Because to your point, it's homage.It's not ripping someone off.It's not like you're, if you were an active writer right nowand he's stealing your gimmick while you're active,okay, now he's, this is, this is.Goldberg Austin, very different.
01:24:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.This is a tip of the guy.Who's a part of this bad guy club?Or with those terrible road warriors ripped off demolition?What a terrible thing.Yeah, that's right.Yeah, accent smash.Who's part of the bad guy?
01:24:20The best tag team ever?Club.O'Bon, Elliot.Yeah.Colby Covington.Yeah.And he's in.Oh, yeah.
01:24:26He's in.Wow.There was a vote.Wow.There was a vote.Does he know this?Yeah.Obong and let him know.
01:24:32Okay.Oh, they're pals.Yeah.O'Brien and Kobe, they get along?Oh, yeah.I don't know that they've ever met.Okay.But they're forced.
01:24:39They're forced to get along.Yes.Like, hey, Colby, just so you know, you got this guy's back.He's in.Yeah, he's in.He's in the main event.Colby's great.Is Colby going to fight again?
01:24:48Well, that's the thing.The guy in the main event, Gabrielle Bonfim, called him out.And I said it's the biggest waste of a call out of all time.I went in a main event, you call it Kobe Covington.Not because I think Kobe's afraid of him.He ain't fighting Gabriel Bonfim, right?So it's a waste.He's still a star.
01:25:02Colby can get on Fox News right now.I mean, when you have guys like that, you know, you remember what Rhonda did,but they couldn't do anything with Rhonda, but main eventer because she could get on Ellen's couch.Like, you just have to use that.Colby's got massive power.I don't know what he wants to do.Even on a friendly level when I don't know.You even ask them? Yes, I have.
01:25:18And he is.not retired from fighting, but I'm just sharinglike longer termif he has politicalaspirations. I wonderthat and I think that perhaps that he does.You think so? Yeah, I think perhaps he does.There was something going on. He and I had an opportunity.
01:25:35There was an event, I don't know a lotabout it, but it ultimately was John Jonesversus Nate Diaz. Do you rememberthat? They were, they were against each other?In Thailand for a RussianBut for a Russian, they don't know in Thailand, butit was Russian. They asked you.Colby and I had that opportunity, and I'm trying to think if Colby was the head coach
01:25:53and it was going to be against Mosvodal, or if I was the coach against Anderson,and they were going to bring in Mazvadol, whatever it was,Colby stopped me very, and it was very good pay, and he stopped me early.He said, hey, with what's going on with Russia and Ukraine, I'm out.Stay out of it.Yeah, okay, okay.And so then you didn't do it.So, no, but I took that as a clue.
01:26:13I took this a clue.Oh, Colby's, he's, you know, for him to not.want to be involved just purely we're going to film in time just because it was the russians andwhat's going on with with with with that war just just made me think okay he's uh he he sees a biggerpicture than most okay so okay so then you brought up earlier at 322 you don't feel buzzno i don't nothing no and i don't jdm it's a great car here's something i learned from youand you said it about kabbi but you were talking about kabb and you said he's the world's mostfamous muslim athlete yes i think in his absence that probably got passed on to islam or at least
01:26:47right there. Two degree, yep. So perhaps they're marketing itin a, because it's sold out, it's absolutely packed business. They got a huge gatewaiting for almost $20 million that they're going to get ready to announce, but I'm justsharing with you the places I go, no, no, it's not. Why do you think that is? It's not thebuzz. Well, one of my guesses is becausemaybe they did go to a different crowd than a different marketing than Ipersonally feel. Secondly,where are we at
01:27:19with ESPN at the helmbut Paramount coming inin all fairnessthirdcan you expand on thatmomentarily do you thinkit's a bit lame duck in thatESPN isn't as incentivized
01:27:30to promotebecause we're approaching the end of the dealis that what you're referring to?I haven't actuallyexperienced or seen thatwhere I can tell youhey we can'tno I mean
01:27:38we list out on thatit's almost overbut perhapsbecause I do feel it's a little bit smallyeah and only two on pay per viewby the waybut then meanwhile they've got this great big gatethe gate record used to be 17.4 million
01:27:52Connor versus Alvarez's first time UFC played New YorkI don't know for sure that they're going to beat thatbut they're expecting to be able to announce a 20 millionwhich is a big deal because Espinoza ran his mouthto Dana one time about 20 million and so now Dana just wants$20 million to stick to Espinoza who I believe is even out of the businessbut Dana doesn't forget things yeahbut Dana wants but now he wants 20
01:28:15Espinosa said something about you can't get$20 million gates and Dana's likeI'm getting $20 million gates anywayWhat do you think of this gambling stuff?That's the hottest thing.Okay, you want to talk about that?In the May world right now.Oh, hey, I got to tell you something.
01:28:28Whoa, okay.It's like a million different topics.Yeah, yeah.I'm sorry, but well, I wrote you off for two hours.This is important.So I had made a piece the other dayon my own YouTube channelabout Dracar Close.
01:28:40And Dracar had made a statementand I only read it.And he said like, you know,hey, for FBI, if you want to pay me a reward, I'll tell you a bunch of guys that have beeninterested in fixing fights. So I made a piece on that. And he got a hold of me and goes,hey, whoa, hey, that was a joke. I was completely joking. The guy that printed it knew I wasjoking, which is why he chose to print it instead of play. I'm joking. I don't know anythingabout any gambling. And he said, I said, well, do you want me to do a correction piece?
01:29:11And he goes, well, you don't have to. He goes, but, you know, this is pretty serious with the FBI andDana and I just don't want Dana thinking that I'm going to making light of this. I'm not makinglight of it. I should have said it, but I was kidding. It's like, hey, I'm going to let Ariel knowthat. Okay. So there's my message. Probably something, just came in right now. Probably somethingyou shouldn't joke about, though. Stay away from that one. Yeah, but you know, there are, yes, forsure, but you can see where you could, where that lesson could be. Sure, sure, sure, sure.Somebody did that. That's like a famous book that you have to read in high school where this guygoes, he's arguing with another guy, he goes, I'm going to kill you. And then later that night,
01:29:41that guy gets killed. And so they convict this.guy, they go, well, but all these witnesses, and he said, I was going to kill.He's like, no, that's an extra, I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you.So what do you make of this?So I'm just saying, like, yes, maybe it's something you shouldn't joke about, but let's, let'sshow some grace to you.Okay, all right.Delgarian, the betting, the line moves.
01:30:00I talked to Ian Parker.Okay.Who knows these numbers better than I do.Sure.And my dad used to bet through a bookie, it was straight up.I'm taking the Patriots or I'm taking the Saints, and then there was points, three and a halfpoints, and that was it.Now you live in this world of prop bets.
01:30:14And if you are looking to scam things, the prop bet sure do make it easy to do.I mean, they make it very easy to hide.Now, of course, I'm bringing in the Chauncey Billups,and I'm bringing in some of the NBA stuff where, you know, who wins the tip-offand who scored first.I was going to say, how do you know Chauncey Billups?But now I remember.21 miles.
01:30:35I've actually never met the man, but I know 20 people that know.They're good friends with the man.And by the way, that thing's starting to change just a little bit, too.I think we might need to have a little more open eye, let him tell his side.But that thing is starting to change.It's now come out that he attended a card game.Yeah, yeah.Well, that's very different than when they said they were bringing people in, and he was doing this for years, and he's working for the mob.
01:30:57Now it turns out that he attended a card game.That's very different than what we were initially told.At any rate.It's not good.I think that it's very serious.They did a hatchet job on Dana the other day.They tried to bring in his own local Nevada.did an actual hatchet where they started talking about, you know,
01:31:16that he plays in the casinos.And as a matter of fact, he's got a debt to a casino.Oh, this was the Hollywood reporter, I think.Yeah, but he plays on.None of this is a secret.Come on.He tells everybody, and whatever is going on,I think that I'll just share with you.
01:31:31I don't know anything about it, and even by rumor, Ariel.I've never been around guys that are joking or talking or whispering about fixing a fight.Never.You never heard this.No, have you?Well, I've talked to a lot of people now.And several of them have told me that people have come up to them,whether it's via phone, via text DM, or even at the gym,
01:31:51and said, hey, I got 100K, would you be interested in doing X, Y, and Z?Now, everyone that I've talked to, it's now approached like 10 or so people,because now that I'm talking about it, people are reaching out,and they have all said I would never do that.But who are the ones that would consider?I will say the Derek Minner one from three years ago seemed very suspect,and this one seemed very suspect.The guy who had never lost via stoppage,
01:32:12is a pretty big favoriteand all of a suddena slew of bets come inhim to lose via submissionin the first roundand guess whathe loses via submissionin the first round.
01:32:21Did you watch the fight?Yeah, I remember it too.Did you think it was a little bit funky?Yeah, but it's somethingthat's something to come outwhere his knee was blown out or something?No, that was the one from three years ago.I'm talking about the one from last week.
01:32:31All right.Last week he goes for the takedownbut he doesn't actually follow through.He just stays on his knees.And the choke and the choke.Yeah, yeah.Yes.The weird thing about it is
01:32:40a disciple of JamesKrause. James was tied to thestory from three years ago, banished fromthe sport, never to be heard from again.FBI still investigating. How brutal.All on speculationbecause they never followed through on that.They just ruined his name. Yeah, well, I hope
01:32:56they call it good. Whether hedid it or not, I mean, he's paid.I hope they, listen, you guysdo not have to follow through and take him to court.You ruined that man. His gym is gone.His friends are gone. He has lost everything.You're good. You pounda flesh, you got it.
01:33:12But for the UFC, this is a big deal, right?The integrity of the sport.And they're playing very above board.Oh, I have no doubt.There was some heat, Ariel, that Dana had takenbecause the FBI had told him like two hours before this went down,which in theory would give Dana the opportunity to cancel the fight.And he did not cancel it, and he took some heat for that,
01:33:35and I thought that that was very unfair.Well, okay, so why do you think that's unfair?Because you've got contracts with athletes.And you don't know that anything's wrong.You know that there's something amiss by whoever is looking at these things.You're getting a phone call from somebody very reputable.So now you go to your athlete.And Dana has a history of 30 years that he backs his athlete.
01:33:57So he went to the athlete and said, hey, are you in trouble?Do you owe somebody money?Are you being shaken down?Are you planning to fix this fight?He asked him.The guy said, absolutely not.I mean, kick this guy's ass.Dana trusted his guy.
01:34:10And Dana's got a history of that.And then to come out and question Danawhen he's the one that made it public,I thought that was a little underhanded.How would you handle that situation?Would you pull the fight?With no other information than a phone callthat something looks astray?
01:34:24It's from a third party, you know,betting integrity service.Eddie Hearn was faced with this same predicamentin June of 2024 and they pulled the fight.He did.Yeah.Now, I would assume different numbers, though, right?Boxing, it always seems to be very different numbers.
01:34:37Yeah.Here's the thing.Someone told me, because I brought this up,someone told me that they think that they actuallyfollow through with itto almost like weed outbecause if you pull the fightand the fight doesn't play out, you don't get
01:34:50to actually see it play out. Now you don'tknow if there's an actual issue.You let it play out.It's a bit of a black eyeon the event, on the sport, whatever,but now you know, okay, now we've zeroed inon something. You almost let the crime play outso to speak and that was the theory
01:35:06because I will admit, I didn't knock them for it,but I did openly question, ifyou are getting this information andif it's that blatant, why not just pullthe fight? Pay the other dude for his troublesthe opponent who had nothing to do with itand just pull the fight. I don't ultimatelyknow, I don't envy them. This is a tough spot.
01:35:22That's right. And I'm the same way.Very easy to throw MMA fights, bythe way. Way easier than boxing in my opinion.Yes. Get submitted.Yes.Like, who's to check?And I'd be curious, like on Eddie Hearns' fightif that was a main event or not. I don't know about that.
01:35:36But let's just say it was a multi-million dollarfight. He's still got to pay them. He wants topoll it and he says because he got this information. I mean, to your point, if it hadn'thappened, it hadn't happened. I mean, I kind of understand the UFC's perspective of they gotthe news. They went and asked the guy. They took the guy at his word. He did a training camp. He'stheir guy. He said no.So you don't think this is some big epidemic that is going to...Well, I think in the future they probably will cancel the fight. I think that you hit it on
01:36:00the head of saying, hey, this was a learning experience. But no one knew at the time how tohandle that. We're still debated it now. I think in the future he's probably going to have topull the fights.Can I tell you something? I'm sorry to cut you off.But if you do much gaming, if you go up to Caesars, you go up to MGA, you've got the real sports book, the real guys.If I go up there with $10,000, I have to get special approval.They got to come out.Now, they'll let me make the bet.
01:36:22I can make $100,000 bet, but not without approval and paperwork.Online, it used to be a $500 limit.Let's just say, and that's 2001, let's say it's quadrupled.We have a $2,000 limit.So these people that are coming in with stories that somebody's placing an online wager of a quarter million dollars, I challenge that.I do not believe that any sports book is taking that kind of action.And just so you want to understand, on an entire undercard of a UFC, you might have a quarter million dollars bet.Every way you can do it, every profit head in the entire undercard.
01:37:02Now they're saying that one fight got a quarter million from some Playboy offshore, I have a hard time believing that.I'd like to know who it wasand I'd like to knowwhat sports book took the action.That doesn't seem like a trick question?No, no, no, but you're sayingif you're the UFC, you're not sweating right now.You're not thinking that this is a virus
01:37:19plaguing our company.That's what I'm wondering about.Well, yeah, probably.I think that you take that one series.When you're a sport, I mean, don't forgetyou're in Las Vegas which survives on game.And don't forget the history of the UFC,it was bought by gamblers.
01:37:35One of the biggest sponsors,yes, you would take that very serious.you've got the FBI calling yes you would take that extremely serious and then to yourpart your point you'd probably go to a third party think how are we gonnamonitor this you put the word out to anyone listening which is a scare tactic andthat makes people stop yeah I think the USC's probably doing everything right andI think they're they're definitely gonna nip this in the bud because once peoplestart to like not trust the promotion this happened to boxing right when people are
01:38:05like ah this fight was fixed or these judges are in on itOnce people start to lose trust in the promotion and the sport, it's a very slippery slope,in my opinion.You have to nip this in the bud.You have to clean house.You have to ban anyone who's associated.You have to come out and say this is like zero tolerance whatsoever.100%.
01:38:25And there's a little bit of a history of that.Dana had brought somebody over.And the story has been told both ways.And frankly, I've never known.Paul Heyman and Jim Ross is how the story was always told.But he brought him over and they were going to help sit in the room when the story,they would do fighter interviews.Really?
01:38:40Yeah, they used to sit in a roomand then they would ask you questions to a cameraand then they would edit that laterand then play that to the housebefore the guys walked out.It was BJ pin in a room.And the way this story,the Jim Ross, Paul Heyman,
01:38:52was telling him what to sayso we could piece it togetherwith this other story.So BJ's looking at the cameraand he's cutting his promoand it made BJ look pretty bad.When they put it out,BJ was the bad guy,
01:39:02the other wife was a good guy,that was pro wrestling.BJ didn't like that it made him look bad.And he came and told the whole war,Those weren't even my words.They had a guy sitting in the room that used to be with WWE.And I didn't even think those things as a way of covering for it.And Dana so badly did not ever want confusion that we could possibly be looking like
01:39:22W that he fired him and never went back to that.And no athlete was ever again told what to say in a pre-fight interview.And I'm just sharing, now you're talking about gaming that could actually make it lookthe integrity.That's the bounds that Dana went to just for him.interview. So yes, of coursethey're taking this very seriously, and of coursethey will nip this in the bud. Isn't it funny? Now he's
01:39:44under the same umbrella asWW. It is very funny. Which I always kind of feel likehe doesn't feel 100% comfortable with. He triesto distance himself from him. There's evenbeen a little bit of, like when this veryfirst happened, they all thought that they had to be buddies.And WWE's like, yeah, we'll be bringingfighters over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, no, we're not.
01:40:01Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not bringing any year. We're not sending you any guy.You do your thing and we'll do our thing. Well, you sell ticketsand we'll sell tickets.Dana did not play along with that at all.He did not ever want there to be any confusionthat what I am putting on is a straightforward competitionas opposed to a participation.I saw on your YouTube channel,
01:40:20did you say, though, like you just found out this weekthat Valentina is fighting Zhang on this car?How's that possible?Yeah, how's that possible?I think that's my most anticipated fight on the card.Is that right?Yeah.It's definitely an interesting one.
01:40:31Why do you think that is?It was announced like three months ago.I've got to tell you, I would love to meet the bullet.I think she has...You've never met her?No, I think she is so pretty.I think she is so talented.They say that she speaks seven languages.
01:40:43She's a world champion in unarmed combat,but by reputation, she's a master of armed combat.Her mother's a badass.Her sister's a...I mean, I like everything about this gal.But, Errol, it doesn't change the fact.She has a record that is unlikely to ever be broken in my lifetime.Nobody has fought for more world championships in co-main events.
01:41:04And I don't mean close.She's like quadrupled the next closest thing.There has never been somebody defending or contesting a world title in a non-main event more than her.And now all of a sudden we got the situation where Wei Lee leaves a division, which is supposedly the forbidden fruit of the UFC.And when it does happen, something special happens, whether that's Ilya Tepore, where that's Islam Machal chip.We've got, Wei did the same thing.She leaves a division in Shambal to the part that Rojas Jr. and Dern's got to go in.and battle that.
01:41:38And so it's one of these situations where...And now I find out that it's happened.I find out that this is going down this week,and it comes with a caveat that if it doesn't work out for Wei Lee,she's just going to go back to 115 and challenge Dern.And I'm looking around going, I don't think this is my fault.I read all the press clip.I do everything right.
01:41:57I think it's you girls.Somebody has screwed up here, and I don't take responsibility.The fact that the bullet and Wei Lee in what should be a super fightis six days away, I'm covering the event on a professional level, and I just, there's not abillboard in town, there's not a commercial in town. I had no champion versus champion, at leastin theory, and I just found out, that's not my fault, that's theirs, and she should be sittingdown with her management team and having a real hard talk, and she should have done this six yearsago. How am I a world champion setting records, fighting in co-main events? Somebody should have to
01:42:35give her an answer to that question.Somebody here is to blame, and I truly don't think it's me.I tried to get both on the show before the fight.And they just weren't interested?They're not on the show.The bullet's very sweet, though, isn't she?No, I love them both.They're great.
01:42:51I've never met her, but she seems very sweet.I'm surprised you never met her.You never did, like, post show or sorry at an event.No.I always feel like you had a bit of a feud with her, though.Yeah. Based on nothing.She never did anything to me.I just got irritated.
01:43:03I'm saying, hey, girl, you got a step forward, and I think she's a heel.That's the other thing.But plays a face?Yes, playing the face.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Which is very cute and maybe it works, but it's like Valentina, I think you're a heel.She goes and does the ultimate fighter.She doesn't let her athletes drink water.
01:43:17That's a heel move.I don't think that she's a sweet girl.I don't think she's covered in tattoos and learn how to bash people's faces in in cages with her elbows and knees because she's nice.I think she's got a dark side.And I think that it's the reason that she's a co-man event.I can't prove it.I don't know it to be true.But whatever she's doing, it's not working.
01:43:35and she should sit down with her trainers and her coaches.I mean, they say she's second generation and her mom does it.Her little sisters in the business.And nobody realized we're fighting for world titles, jerking curtains for a guy from Australiaand a dude from the caucus region, I would never open a show for a dude from Australia just so you understand.Ever.Why not? Why not?That's not a real country.
01:44:00They don't fight over there.They don't contest in the Olympic Games.They don't have any medals in judo, sombo, freestyle wrestling, Greco-Roman wrestling, boxing.That's not a combat-driven country.That's not real.You can't get a scholarship and go to a college for any combat form in Australia.It's not real.I'm going to jerk a curtain for a dude whose name's so complex we call him by his initials.
01:44:25That's never happening.And Arrow, I'm not the world champion.She is.She's about to take on the biggest star out of charge.China, they say, in a co-main spot to an Australian and a dude from the caucus region, on mywatch, never happening.Do you think she should lean in and be like full heel?She should say what I'm saying to you right now.
01:44:46She should come out and cut a promo.I had a fight on an under, I mean, all I can do is personalize things, right?I can't make it about me, but it's all I can do.I'm going to fight.You know, commune's rank number two in the world.I'm ranked number nine in the world.We're the second fight of the night.We're fighting at three o'clock.
01:45:02and I come on your show and I lose my mind.And I said there is no other two guys that are ranked in the top 10 on the entire card,aside from the main event, we're both ranked in the top 10 jerking the curtain for our parents at 3 o'clockthat nobody's going to watch, and it's all because of him.He comes from this culture where it's about honor and it's not respectful to come on and talk some trash.We will beat each other up in a steel cage.We do not deserve to be the second fight of the night.I think in reality we were the third fight of the night.
01:45:32understand my point. And it did change things. And they never put me in that spot again.Turning point. Yeah, I never fought on anything that wasn't pay-per-view or main card again, butyou had to ask for it. You might remember Dreckis duplecy. Yeah. He's supposed to be an undercarda couple of December's ago. They're going to debut Bo Nicol, and they're going to put Bo Neckle on themain card. And Dracus said, over my dead body. He's never done this before. I've done this fivetimes successfully. I'll fight him. I don't care who the opponent is, but he's not debuting over me.and they switched it.Now, Bo, if you remember, he ended up getting hurt and came off the card,
01:46:03but they switched it, and they put Dracus on the main card,then they put him in a co-main event,and then he was world champion three fights later,all because he spoke up for himself.How is the bullet allowing this to happen?The co-main at MSG is not so bad.I don't disagree, but seven years of, yes, and you make a fair point for this one,but seven years, and she's main-avitted, I think, three times in seven, all title fights.
01:46:29That girl is so wildly successful.She's the most successful girl not named Amanda Nunes.She's defended a belt more times than Amanda Nunez.She has more title fights than Amanda and Rhonda put together.That might surprise you.She has quadrupled the next closest thing for co-main events.Other fun thing about that fight against Ushend, non-televised, if you recall.That was before every fight on the card was televised.
01:46:54You remember the face prelims and the fight pass?No, we run none of those things.Never happened.That was the turning point.Yeah, fight never happened.But I had to speak up for myself.Jerichas had to speak up for himself.I don't know how the bullet goes along and doesn't think it's a big deal.
01:47:08How do you feel about Bo being on the prelims now?They said he was on the main car, then back to the prelims.First time I think he's on the prelims.Yeah, and I wonder if there was any relation.I wonder if they got heat for putting him on the main car,because they were getting heat for a while for the way they were carrying Bo.Who cares, right?Hey, he's a stud.
01:47:23RDR's a stud.I mean, that just shows you how difficult these divisions are.You know, that wasn't quite RDR against Allen.I mean, these things happen.And, yeah, who cares, to your point.But Bo Nicol is still stylistically the hardest match for Chimaya.I don't think Chimai would disagree with that.He's the hard. Stylistically, that would probably be his most difficult match on the whole roster.
01:47:44I still think they fight on the White House card?No, Chameh and Bo?Yeah, you told me.I did?Yes.When I asked you, who would you book on the White House card?You said, Shemaiah.Oh, who would I book is very different than who do I think they're going on?
01:47:57Oh, okay.No, no, boy, that's an interesting one.No, I do not think.Who would you book right now?Now we're getting closer, six months away, seven months away.Who would I book versus who, and I'm going to answer from a different perspective.Who do I believe would be booked?Right now, what they are secretly working towards is Islam, Uncle Chev, and Ilya
01:48:17think so.For the White House.Yes.No American.And I don't know why people keep thinking there would be.I mean, just to use Noche, for example, Noce two years ago, at Spear, the biggestgate in history 25 million dollar only time the company's ever done it uh Sean O'Malleyfrom Arizona versus Mara Di Washa Levelli from not here yeah Georgia but but I'm just
01:48:39saying I don't quite know where people got this idea what about John just like openlybegging now for a spot and you got to be real careful if you do want to bill itAmerican versus somebody you got to be real careful because you can't control thatscript right it's it's not wrong okay so meaning you don't want America to lose at theWhite House that would be weird if you bill it that right right right rightI'm going to bill it is the birthday and the blah, blah, blah,and then we're going to, you know, the British flag is going to come up.It's not Lugar slamming Yolkina on the SS.
01:49:06And by the way, if we do have to have an American and we have to have a win,yeah, we got to call Albuquerque.There's only one guy we can call if we're trying to count on.Do you think it's weird that he's openly begging like this?I don't think that it's weird.I appreciate it to a degree.He is a guy that has never really understood what we're doing here,and he's not a guy that you could ever sit down and explain it to
01:49:24because he's had such success.He thinks he's got it figured out.out. It's just one of those situations.You want to know what does deservea review, Ariel. Every Tuesday at 9 a.m., they come out with rankings.John Jones is not ranked anywhere in the top 15, and I would justlike to know why. And I have my own hypothesis. I do not think the secret rankingscommittee that gets together and submit these names have all collectively, with how
01:49:47conspiring, decided John Jones is no longer a top 15 fighter.I don't think they're submitting his name. And I don't know what that looks like.whoever from the UFCsubmits to the rankings committeeand then it comes back to them rankedand I can't proveI think the UFC isI don't think the rankings committee
01:50:05is currently getting John's nameand if he is in the pooland he is under contractI think that that requiresan explanation as to whyso are you saying that he's the victim hereyesI'm saying that I don't think
01:50:17anybody reasonable believes that John Jonesbecause he retired from the sportfor eight days is no longer a top 15badass in an organizationHowever, but I bring this to, because you're talking about booking him at the White House.You're talking about booking him for a world title fight.How do you put a guy in a world title fight that's not ranked in the top 15?I mean, it's John Joel.
01:50:33I fully understand that.But all the same, how's he not ranked in the top 15?I guess they took him out because he retired and didn't put him back in?That's right.Well, the only way, allegedly, from what we told.Now, you got to understand, we fiercely adhere to the rules we make up as we go.But the only thing that we have been told is if you are under contract with the UFCand you are not eligible for rankings, it's because you have an USADA issue.
01:50:55I realize it's no longer Osada.But he might have an Usada issue because when you retire, he would have to reenterthe pool.So it doesn't necessarily scream to he's got a secret test like Connor had.It could just be, we haven't been giving me clarification.But if you leave and you reenter and you have a past fail, you're supposed to do 180 days.And it would not matter if you only left for eight days and it was an accident.You were drunk when you made the comment.
01:51:20It wouldn't matter.You would still have to serve 180 days.but nobody's given us an actual answer to that.And I do think that that's wrong.If we're going to show an integrity to the rankings committee,which we don't respect and we don't show an integrity to,but if we're going to do that,somebody owes us an explanation as to why John Jones is not in the top 50s.
01:51:37I don't even know if there's human beings actually making these, you know, rankings.I don't even know who's doing it.Does he fight in 2026, true or false?Well, he's talking so much smack about Tom.He doesn't have the money to not.He doesn't have the money to walk away.he doesn't have any choice I mean that that's why do he walk away to begin withhe was offered 30 million dollars he asked for 30 yeah and he got that yeah no and
01:52:02now he's apologizing yeah no I don't know he's he's he miscalculated that one yeahhe did that thing with Nate and they got 300 grand and it took 30 days and so alla sudden he's like well if I can make 300 grand and 30 days and I could do this every 30sure sure sure I mean sometimes explaining very basic things to to it can be tough butwill he fight again yes I believe so and Ithink there's some real legs. Look, if you're the UFC, the last thing you want to do isempower a dude that you can't count on. And by the way, it ties back into my theory to whoever'skeeping him out of the rankings. Like, there's something of foot there. And apparently I'm not,
01:52:34I'm not quite getting your attention on that. So I'll move on. But just to move on from that,if the one thing you don't want to do is to empower John Jones, you find yourself in a veryunique situation, which is to put him with Pierre. Now, now there is no title. He can't turnthe gun on you like he just did. He can't hold you hostage. Like,like he just did. That's a proposition. I don't think that Dana ever thought he'd be presentedwith. I think Dana always assumed I got a main event and I got a world title him. Now all of a suddenPierre comes along. And that is a very hard thing to look away from. That is a compelling match.Joe Rogan called that the biggest match in the history of humanity. I don't know that it would
01:53:12go that far. I don't agree with that. It's a big fight. It's a big match. No, it's a huge fight.Yeah. And I say just do it. Absolutely. Because now he's not holding up the division to your point.so just do it's funhave prayer move uphave Yuriyou knowfight for the beltagainst
01:53:24Albert and itfix itAspinallI didn't understandwhy Danawas so madabout theAspinall
01:53:30because now you getMy only theory ishe had other plansfor Aspinalland was maybegoing to try to doAspinol versus Johnand this delayed
01:53:37it and screwed it upThat was perhapsBecause now the rematchis going to be giganticYeahWell it'll be a lot biggerYeahI mean that's smallest
01:53:44Paperview of the yearBut it wasn't reallyTheir faultThey held itAfternoon cardI was going to sayThey held it at 10 amYeah, yeah.
01:53:51What about Rondo?That's not their fault, but it is the smallest.Rhonda going after Joe?No, well, that's not a bad thing.I mean, that's not a bad thing that Rhonda's speaking up.He's coming back, right?No.No, she is.
01:54:06Oh, heavens, no.No, she is.Yes.Oh, no.This is it.No, no.I think there's talks of her versus Gina.There could be talks.
01:54:13Ronna will not fight.You don't think so.No.Why?Well, first off, you know, Rhonda got retired.Rhonda's contract was so beautiful and called for so much money, you had to main inventor.And she was not one of the best fighters in the world.When we call her the world champion, it's because we had no idea.
01:54:33We had no idea who should beware, how to do that.Like, it was still getting formulated.If you'll recall, she was announced at a press conference as a world champion.And they handed her to the belt.I mean, not for nothing.Imagine how bad that story could have gone.If she would have lost her first fight, she would actually be a world.champion to never win a fight, which, by the way, happens to be what Tom Aspinall is.
01:54:53Right.I mean, that's a tough one.You've got to figure that out.You've got to straighten out.I'm the undisputed champion of the world who never won an undisputed championship.I mean, you see where that becomes a little bit of a problem.So all I'm saying for Rhonda is when she got ran out of the sport, she was still a topseven, a top eight.
01:55:09She could still beat a lot of girls, which for most athletes would be a lifelong dream,but you're paying her so much money.You've got to put her in main events.With main events, you've got to put in a world title fights, and she could not go with the topgirl she couldn't even go five minutes with them so to act like you're going to bring her back evenin a scrub fight nobody's looking to see that and the ufc does not have a history of that the ufc issuch a history of doing fights for absolutely no reason than other doing them that they're not even surethey're going to do pierre versus john jones which the whole world wants to see they're just
01:55:38looking at and going look what story does that tell and dana white only puts on people don't realizethis about him i was told this by reed harris who at one point was at least in theory a competitorand Reid said the thing with Dana and the reason none of us can touch him,every fight he has has a significance.And it's true.Dana does not ever put a fight on just that.Every fight has to at least have the ability to tell a story for another fight.It doesn't matter if it's the first car, it's got at least have the ability to get you into something else.
01:56:06And no, the idea of Rhonda coming back for a night of coming back, no.And by the way, and I don't mean to hate on Ron.I'm just trying to be a little more serious here.It is very important to the people that tell the story that Rhonda Rousey is the reasonwomen's fighting is here and that she's the biggest star in the sports history. That's very importantto the people that tell the story. There's just nothing to support it. She doesn't have a merchandiserecord. She doesn't have a pay-per-view record. She's not even the top 10. She doesn't have a livegate record. She's not even the top 10. She never did. It's not like she had these records and I
01:56:35came along and took them or Connor came around and took them. She never had them. There is notruth to the story of Rhonda the Star. It's an important way, and I realize our leadershipinsist it's told that way but it's not true you think that's why she's so bittertowards the sport I think that a little better she'll hear somebody like like mecome out and go hey I thought we were friends we are friends but I still have a job todo which is tell the story the way that it happened you were the most likelyperson to get on Ellen's couch we could have really used you the moment thelight dimmed on you you left us you could have still gone to Ellen's couch and
01:57:11put over the next card I'm no longer a fighter in the UFC I used to make millions ofI used to be the biggest drawyer. I used to have a lot of fun. I'm none of those things anymore.But here I am telling you about Islam. Here I am telling you about Jack. I'm trying in my own way to pitch in.You're not paying me to be here. I love the sport. The sport did something for me. I owe, I feel, at least.She never even came back in May came came to make came. She never even came and sat in the front row. She had nothing to do with us.And then she wonders why people are going good riddance to you. You said it to us. And secondly, it's not real.The only thing that's real is the money and the miles.How long were you away from your family?
01:57:48And when it was all done, how much money did you bring home to your family?Anything else is fake.I remember hanging my head when my career was over and I needed a couple of weeks and I, you know, who am I now?And my identity was lost.And I remember Brittany had no time for this.So this isn't real.You're going to your phone and looking at your Twitter, then you're having your day affected.This is right here is real.
01:58:07We were in the car.She goes, these two kids and me, this is real.And I'm just sharing like, that's all.hard thing for some people i don't say this to put down ronda but but those those stories of rondaaren't true she was never the best fighter in the world that's not true you don't believe thatbest fighter best fighter period or best women's fighter well i just met in her division ofyeah of course i didn't mean overall i mean at 135 at one point she was you think so well who wasbetter than her well she did get over on misha yeah michia lexas davis yeah very fantastic yeah
01:58:38Liz Liz actually is a very sure almost got submitted could you have imagined i think thatLiz, it was still forming at that time.Yeah, yeah, you're right.I don't want to, I don't want to put all of them down.But Holly Home was here at that same time.No, no.In retrospect, we all got the Holly Home fight wrong.There you go.
01:58:55Holly Home is a Hall of Fame boxer.A man that was around.The bullet probably could have moved up.I'm just sharing with you.There's enough to have a conversation, but what about this?As though this was the best of an era based on what we saw in those pickings is a little extreme.I got to be honest.When this Jake Paul, Francis, and Gano's story came out, I really loved it.
01:59:12I loved it.And he said, didn't quite make sense.He said it doesn't make sense about.What part did you not like?You didn't like the idea that you were going to beat a guy?You didn't like the idea that you were going to walk out in front of thousands of people.You didn't like the, I think it was on Netflix, which is a big honor.You didn't like the millions of dollars he was offered.
01:59:32What part specifically of that story did you not like?I'm very curious about that.And more power to Francis, by the way, like if he lives by a code, I guess I respect it.I thought his code was made up and he was a whore like the rest of us that wanted the money.I guess there's a little bit more depth to him.But could you imagine how irritating that would be to be his manager or to be his trainer who you're counting on 10%?You got a chance to make $10 million, which means your cut is going to be a million dollars.And all he needs to do is make that walk and go beat up this little guy that used to be a Disney character.
02:00:04And he says, no, it doesn't make sense.And you've got to sit at home and go, why do you think I'm in here with you every day?Why do you think I believe it?Why do you think I treat you like a son?Do you think it's because you really are my?It's not.It's about the money.And I don't ever want to tell you that, but it's a business.
02:00:21It's about the money.And you just cost me a million dollars.Yeah, I love that fight, man.I really did.I love it too.Hey, what about the balls that take for Jake?Short notice.Would you imagine?
02:00:32Yes.Could you imagine?I'm way more interested in that fight than Tank Davis.Picture being in the ring.And you look over and it's Francis.With gloves.on 65 pounds bigger than youyou can't grab him like whatever hope
02:00:45that you have whether you could succeed at grabbinghim or not in MMA you at least have thehope you don't even have that hopeyou are going to be bludgeoned in justa moment by this mountainthis DNA beautifulmonster of a man from the chale son in schoolis this not the best thing to happen to Jake
02:01:02he essentially called out the top dogthe biggest dog in the MMA yardand he said noin the playground rulesif two guys get called to fight, and one guy doesn't show.Yes, I think that it's a very big thing for Jake,and I hope he gets his credit for it.And what a different fight.
02:01:17And we were talking about short notice.Tank Davis, the world's smallest guy you've ever fought.To the world's biggest guy you've ever fought.And he knew he doesn't think he can beat Frank.He was willing to take the ass whippingto follow the golden rule, which is the show goes on.I promised a performance to these people.I promised a paycheck to my team.
02:01:39I'm going to do whatever it takes to follow through with thatand I'll deal with the consequences.Jake deserves a lot of credit for that.He won't get it, but he deserves it.I hope Francis changes his mind.Can he?Didn't they cancel the event?No, no, but for December, for December.
02:01:52Oh, okay.That's what they're trying to do now.They're trying to do a date in December.How bad you want to work with a guy that said?I mean, I hear you, you know, the money would talk, but how bad you?I fully agree.I fully agree.It's actually a very interesting match up.
02:02:05But that's a tough attitude, man.I call you and offer you millions of, and you got to understand.He's playing hard to get.I can redo this in December.That's true.But if I don't pull this date off in November, I'm out about $8 million in marketing.Like not for nothing.Could you help me?
02:02:19Just please, please works for me.Some guy in the industry calls me, even if it's in a, hey, please, I need that.You got it.We'll put our thing on.Maybe it's negotiation. Maybe he just didn't like the offer.It could be, but I mean, I would think just because of the money that they're out and the short notice.And, you know, typically in our industry, when you make calls like that, particularlywith Dana White. He understands. He understands the gun's about to get pointed in his face,
02:02:42and he opens the checkbook. You know, it's part of the game. And I think that Jake Paulis known for doing things right. Everyone has talked about how generous and straight-up MVP is.And that's before you even have the Netflix angle. But yes, maybe Francis is doing that. I'm notmad at Francis about it. I was just confused. Chris and Anderson. Did you have FOMO when you saw that?Yeah, I thought that was kind of cool. I reached out to Chris. I had that information early.I wanted to make a YouTube video when I just said, hey man, I got it.got this, but is it a secret?Can you confirm it?
02:03:11Is it a secret?He said, I can't confirm it, but I think it's a secret.Don't do anything with it.But yeah, I thought that was kind of cool.Yeah.I mean, those things are silly to a degree, but they're also pretty cool.Hey, have we ever seen somebody that likes to compete more than Anderson Silver or Chris Weidman?50 years old.
02:03:26Oh, yeah, and Chris.Yeah, yeah.Chris was just doing some video with like a family member on the beach.I don't know if you happen to see that.Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.He was exhausted.He was pushing.Like, he was actually digging deep and showing grit to win a.
02:03:38beach wrestling match at 40 years old like i mean there's few people that are competitors likechris wideman this is so much fun you've had it with me no no no we always get to this pointwe're eventually you don't know how to get rid of i'm just saying i'm just sort of you easing it allin you know would you agree with me at all the we we we came right off this and maybe it's justme but the the city is not quite lit up oh yeah yeah for for and do you think my hypothesisagainst perhaps the the in-between with the espion perhaps that's a fair hypothesisI think by the time the event happens, it's going to be sold out.As you said, Gait, I think Islam and Jack don't talk a lot of smack, so there's no friction there.
02:04:17I think it's an amazing card, but if you actually look at the players, this is like a real hardcore fans card.Islam Jack, don't talk smack.Jean Valentina don't talk smack.Leon, Carlos, they don't really talk smack.Sean and Morales, don't talk smack.BSD Benile Darius.That's an amazing five pack of fights.There's not one smack talker there.
02:04:35One guy who's going to puff his chest out, right?There's not a single one.Like Brady Morales is an unbelievable fight.I'm kind of surprised they booked Brady against Morales.You know what I mean?I thought he was going to get a title shot.Brady is so good, dude.So good, but Morales is so good.
02:04:49I agree. I agree.Brady is, the first time I ever saw Brady,this little guy is walking out to do the job against Craig Jones.He ends up winning.It was a grappling match, and, you know, he was a smaller guy,and he was representing Hinsos J.You don't really know much about him and you end up winning that match.I've followed Sean Brady ever since, you know.
02:05:07Who do you like in that one, by the way?I like Brady.You like Brady?I like Brady for the world title.Like to become champion?Like he would beat Islam if you want?I'm not, I mean, I don't know for sure that he would win it, but yes, he could be the world champion.Yes.
02:05:20On the right day, Sean Brady can beat every man alive, yes.What about Carlos and Leon?Yeah, that's interesting.Just had Leon here, kind of a make or break for him, right?Leon can beat everybody, but he doesn't know it.That's the problem with Leon.Leon doesn't know how good he is.Leon lost the belt to Blahol because he doubted himself.
02:05:36Leon was ready to do the job for Kamar the night that the kick was hurt around the worldHe ended up digging he would he had changed the math he was no longer trying to win that fightIt was it was a moral bit he was just gonna get through all five rounds fair enough and then that kick comesBut it's like Leon you can do that to everyone he doesn't know how good he is I think that he grew upAnd maybe he didn't have parental support I think maybe his parents didn't like tell him how great he wasBecause he really doesn't know he is a very you see that day where he took the basketball and hechuck said it goes right it goesI don't know if that's real or not
02:06:09is that real I thought it was I am I a foolI thought it was niceit was nice though I think LeBron did the same thingYou thought that was real? I thought it was realI thought it was real but all I'm saying is he's a winnerThis guy's a winner he's a nicehuman being he's got to grow up after his dadgets murdered he could end up in prison
02:06:26and nobody would question it turns out to bea gentleman and he's a sweet guyhe doesn't know how good he isso you asked me how he's going to do in that fightI don't know I know he's the better fighterI know he's been the best fighterin the company for six or seven yearsbut he doesn't know it
02:06:43So you want to talk to this young guy Josh or noOr is that awkward for you?I want you to tell him hiNo, just tell him hiOkayYou know make sure he accepted the invitationWe welcomed him into the clubBut now I haven't heard from him
02:06:52So you know you got to talk to you got to goHey you know I hear you're going to lifeIs a big invitationDon't screw this upThe uncle jail bail of protectionWhich is a very real thing in this businessWell it's great to see youYou tell him I said hi
02:07:02I am good I mean I was going to offer youBut I think you'd rather I do itWell, now it got weird.Can you hear me say this?I don't know if he's here yet.Tell him, I said hello.Guys, is he there?I want to sit and enjoy his interview.
02:07:12I don't want to make it.I don't want to make it.I don't want to embarrass me.You made me look like it.But I want to say goodbye to you properly.You don't mean it.I want to make, I want to say goodbye to Steve.Get it up.
02:07:23Wait, can we take a picture?Fine.Okay, but we're going to do it on the air.Let's do it on the air.All right.We're doing it on the air.Does Steve come back here?Steve, do you mind taking a picture?
02:07:31Did he come over here, though?No, no, no, we're going to do it in front.All right, we go right.We're doing it on the air, guys.But you don't tell Josh, like, you know, I'm proud of him.Yeah, okay, you'll tell him.That you're proud of him.Yeah, don't tell him.
02:07:39He needs to work on the promo skills a little bit.I'm walking out so I can listen to you, the greatest.Imitation.My new guy.Greatest form of flattery.Okay, okay, here we go.Okay, okay, here we go.Who are you going to be called?
02:07:53Yeah, yeah, happy birthday.Happy birthday, sir.Look at this, Steve, how's it going.Okay, here we go.Okay, here we go, here and take a picture.That's Connor, by the way.What's the problem?Yeah, we know it to tell them.
02:08:05Connor's generally fairly supportive of on the channel on Twitter.He loves you.Fairly.Watch early.Watch early.Good to see you.Great.What about the Polaroid?
02:08:13Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Don't care about the Polaroid.There we go.Why, does he talk smack about you on Twitter?No, no, no.You see them?He's been awesome.Oh, yeah.
02:08:20Oh, yeah.I love it.Thanks, guys.All right.All right, we've had it with you.We've had it with you.We've had it with you.Yeah, yeah.
02:08:28You left me hanging.Oh, I did?Yeah, yeah, yeah.You know, this is going to cost you a little something.Please, it's in the microphone.Well, I don't want you when I'm running for office and then you write me back and go, no, I don't do that.You asked me for something recently and I came through for you.Yeah, but I'm going to ask you for money.
02:08:43Donation?It's going to be small.We're a little tight on cash these days.It's going to cost you $1,000.Okay, no, with pleasure, with pleasure.For both.What does both mean?If I win the primary, which it's another.
02:08:53Put me down for two.No, me down for two.Thank you, thank you.Thank you.Go get a slice.Go get a hot dog at the corner here.there he is chel p and steve thank you so much guys okay there they are i tried to make it happenum chill p here always a great pleasure when uh he joins us my whole uh situation do you were you able
02:09:12to hear us frank when we were taking the pictures and everything we heard enough okay we heard enoughalways great oh it's great okay let's not waste any time let's see if he uh if he happened to hear himwe're talking to josh hokid who is victorious on saturday and the talk of the m mhm a world forthe promo that he cut afterwards, kind enough to join us on this Monday afternoon.Hello, Josh.Oh, yeah.Look at that.Is your monitor big enough for the biggest arm in the heavyweight division?
02:09:43I'm not sure.Actually, I actually think it's not big enough.Well, you need to get a bigger one then.Yes, thank you.Wow.It's great to talk to you, my friend.Did you hear Chale putting you over over there?Yeah, that means a lot, man.
02:09:55He's a, man, he's a legend.And so that means a lot coming from him.Have you ever met him?I accept.Okay, you accept.Have you been formally invited?He told us there's a group chat, the bad guys, Oban Elliott, Colby Covington himself,and they want you in the group chat.
02:10:09Have you been actually invited into the group chat?I haven't gotten nothing on my end yet, but yes, I'm happy to be part of that.Okay, well, what a great honor for you.By the way, like, to do that, you know, some people, the haters would say like,oh, you know, he's reciting this and that.To me, I'm blown away.by having the composure after a fight and the memory to recite all that, no stumbling.You didn't, you didn't, you didn't like miss any words.
02:10:35Everything rhymed. Everything flowed perfectly.I thought that was supremely impressive.I appreciate it.Yeah, everyone wants to say that it was a chat, GBT, and all this other stuff.But I'm like, you try to get in the cage and then remember all that after, you know.Yeah.So this to me is very smart because now people are talking about you.when did this whole idea come about to have a persona to break through there's a lot of guys who sort of blend in right there's a lot of vanilla fighters out there there's a lot of fighters who just don't stick out when did it occur to you that you have to do something like this in order to get notice yeah i think you just got to evolve with the day and age where there's so much media going on now and i know how i feel when i when i tune in and i watch some of these heavyweights on tv and it's like it's just unexciting there's no backstory
02:11:25and so I'm just going off of the feelyou know and whether youyou love me or hate meyou know at least you're going to feel somethingwhen you see me on TV and that'sthe whole thought process behind all thatso earlier we played the promofor Chale and he reacted to it in real time
02:11:43he said he hadn't quite seen the whole thing just yetI want to play you the reaction and get your thoughtson the reaction all rightyeah here it is first official winin the UFC this Saturday he gets on the microphoneand says this all right here we goI'm the talk of the town, the USA sound, the most profound, the boy toy, the lady's joy, the master, the true speaking, pastor's pastor, the biggest arm, the most charm, the one that's going to do all the harm, I'm more than meets the eye, I'm even sweeter than your grandma's homemade apple pot.And last I'll leave you with this.
02:12:26Homemade.I already stomped two Brazilians, and I'm looking for a third.Whoa.Volta Walker.You absolutely suck.Okay.That's a hard call out right there.But, yo, that is you.
02:12:38Yeah, he did fantastic.There's multiple references.So what do you think?And I, of course, I got inspired by other people.But, okay, if he was paying me some homage there.Hey, what about the homemade pie?It doesn't have to be homemade.From an artistic standpoint, he could have just said sweeter than your grandma's pie.
02:12:52Why's it going to be a homemade pie?That's brilliant.No, that's brilliant, though.There's a delivery.What about the delivery?That's what I'm saying.What about that, man?He put you over.
02:12:59He loved it.Yes, man.That means so much, man.That's awesome.Just seeing that reaction.Yeah, I'm sure he got inspiration from, you know, maybe WF guys and whatever.But obviously, he's inspired me.So, you know, to see that he's accepted that and approved.
02:13:18That means a lot.I mean, how was on a scale to 1 to 10, what do you think?It was pretty consistent.throughout the, it was a little lengthy, I could say that, but it was pretty consistentthroughout the whole, it kept you engaged, right?I thought it was fantastic.My only beef with it was that it was in front of six people at the apex.Imagine doing that in front of a sold-out crowd at MSG, at T-Mobile.
02:13:41A character like you cannot be at the Apex.I'm sorry, that is a waste of your talents.Yeah, I mean, hopefully this message gets to Dana and all the UFC people, man, put me intoT-Mobile.I'm for like if you just kept me at the team mobile the rest of my career I'm happy withI grew up watching some UFC shows over there so yeah hopefully that's the last time and I'm inthe apex but it is what it is were you a pro wrestling fan growing up you know what I want to saywhen I was six years old my my dad broke the news oh yeah and and he told me that it wasn't real
02:14:19and I just couldn't get that out of my mindand I couldn't I couldn't keep watching itknowing that they were doing these flipsand they were hitting each otherand then I started looking a little bit more closelyand I was like, dang dead you are rightand so I couldn't I couldn't tune in anymore after thatWere you a big Chal P fan growing up?
02:14:41Yeah, yeah, I wasI mean because he's an all-American wrestlerand I, you know, wrestling is such aa small community. And so, yeah, I like to back all the instiably wrestlers and watch theircareer. And so obviously, I was watching his. And, you know, I just thought he was a genius for,you know, his promoting skills. So I'm just taking a little page out of his book.You know, it's interesting because he was putting you over. He knew about your, your football career,that you had a great football career at Fresno State, cup of coffee in the NFL, but also
02:15:17we're an All-American wrestler at the same time. We were looking at some of the,of your footage is this you this looks nothing like you is this actually me ariel that's mei don't i mean that's you on top that's 50 that's 50 pounds ago but that's me i mean a lot of peoplethey don't they don't realize that i mean just two weeks before i'm weighing 230 and in that videoi am 197 and so i only have two three weeks to lose all that weight and then two months then toget on that podium. And so, I mean, I'm not just the everyday All-American wrestling. I all-Americanin two months while I was playing football year-round. And so I don't think people really understandthe full background of that. No, that is incredibly impressive. You even went toe-to-toe
02:16:10with the great Boe-Nickel, right? Look at you with Boe Nickel over there. Yeah, don't play that.Okay. No, it's just a screen grab. Just a screen grab.Hey, we could wrestle now when I'm nice and healthy and I'm eating all the food.That's skinny me.That's 197.Right now, I'm winning 240, you know, and so I'm fat and happy.Man, going from NCAA football, Division I, 1 football to that, you don't hear of a lot of athletes doing that.Are there a lot of guys who have, I'm not aware of it.
02:16:42Look at you.Yeah, I mean, Lorenzo Neal, he went to Fresno State and he played football.and wrestled as well.And he all-American.And that really inspired me to follow in his footsteps, you know, to play football and wrestle.And I've always had the mentality of, like, I'm not like everybody else.Like, I always wanted to be different.And I grew up wrestling and playing football.
02:17:06And I just felt like, why stop in college?I know there's a lot of coaches that tell you not to do it.It's not smart.But, I mean, they just don't know what a human is fully capable of.you know maybe maybe the average person could only play one sport but some people they want tothey're made from from a different cloth and i really believe that i am when did you when did youdecide that football all right that dream is over and now i'm going to focus on this one what was thepoint where you made that decision yeah after i was uh i mean i this is a true story by the way
02:17:45it's a shoot hit me wellI was in the NFL, and there's a lot of liberal propaganda going on there.You walk into these stadiums, and they got the LGBT flag, and Black Lives Matter, and all.And that's all fine in Danny.But when they start forcing you to comply with it, then you've got to wear these LGBT shirts and all this.You got to put something on your helmet.And, you know, you got these football players taking a knee, and that didn't sit right with me.And so I would give the football players a little choice of words, and they didn't like it.
02:18:25And so we would handle business in the locker room.I would fight these guys either in the locker room or at practice.And I mean, I didn't lose in the locker room.And so I figured maybe if this football thing doesn't work out, or if I get sick and tired of it, which I did,maybe I should beat people up for some money.and this is how it came about.Why did that bother you so much?I don't know.
02:18:52I just have great pride in America and the flag.Maybe that's just how I was raised.And so you felt like this was being forced upon youand that's what turned you off from football?Yeah, they wanted you to get the vaccineand it's like they didn't just respect, you know,the people's background.They didn't respect the morals that the person might have.
02:19:14And I don't like that.They took some of our freedom away.And I wasn't okay with that.So when you came out on Contender Series and said some of these things, you got a lot of heat for it.People are like, oh, we just got over Colby, and now we have to deal with this guy, with this character.How do you respond to that?You know, people who say that this type of rhetoric, there's no place for it in MMA.We don't want to hear about this stuff.
02:19:37I mean, it's my truth.And I mean, I can't make everybody happy.And if I feel that type of way, I mean, it is what it is.but I think it's all part of the processandlove me, hate me, you're going to have to pay memaybe that'll give them a reason to tune inOkay, so you don't mind being the bad guy, so to speak
02:19:58No, I'm in the clubI thought you rememberI'm in the club now, I'm the bad guy, go onWhat about people who say thatI saw some people call you racist? What about that?I mean, I'm half white, half Mexicanand my wife's half black, my father-in-law's black, so it's like, I'm a horrible racist if I amone, you know, so it's not true, obviously. Does that upset you when you hear people saying that
02:20:26about you or read people saying that about you reacting that way to what you're trying to do?No, honestly, like I said, you can't make everybody happy. They're all going to have theiropinions, but, you know, as long as you stay true to yourself and the people around youthat actually do know you, that's all that matters.And what's your issue with Brazilians?I don't know.They just keep feeding me these guys.And you know what?
02:20:51The stars are aligning perfectly.It's funny how, I mean, Colby got his career going or his career was really takingoff with the Brazilians.Chell made a great career fighting the Brazilians.And now they gave me two Brazilians.And it is what it is.I'm not asking for him, but I'll keep beating them up if they keep signing the contract.So Walter, right after your post-fight interview, he responded on Twitter, but I think he has since deleted some of the tweets.
02:21:22This is what he wrote.First things first, he wrote one question, what shoe size do you wear, implying, you know, that he's going to take your foot the heel hooks?Josh Hokit, I want you next.I'm going to kick your head like a soccer ball and force you to respect Brazil and our culture, you piece of shit.And then again, you piece of shit, I'll kick your head and force you to respect our culture.Take my name out of your mouth.the orders, you trash.And I think some of these
02:21:47have been deleted. You even calledattention to this saying he deleted his post.MFer got scared. Is that true?He deleted those? And what do you make of that?I mean, this guy,I'm surprised he can't evensay that type of stuff. I mean, this guy'sthe ugliest guy on the UFC roster.
02:22:03He looks like Sloth from the Goonies, and he'sover here talking trash to me.But, I mean, maybe his PR personwas made him take him down.I was like, this guy's probably on another level than all the guys he's been beaten.And it's probably not very smart that he's engaging on this.Because next thing you know, we're going to have a contract in front of us.And I'm going to sign that contract.
02:22:25And he's going to have to make that decision, you know, that because he signs the contract with me.He's not going to be able to leg lock me.You know, my grappling's on a different level than the guys he's face and on a different level than him, matter of fact.he's like an old school pro wrestling guyyou know exactly what he's going forand he pulls it off every timeyou don't think he gets that on youdoesn't even attempt to get it
02:22:50doesn't even get an opportunity to lock it inhe's probably going to attempt itbut in reality it's likeI'm nota lot of these guys they want to liketry to fight the hand or whateverlike as soon as you go for the legI'm out of there and I'm a lot faster
02:23:06than these guys as wellI don't move like aa slow fat heavyweight like some of these guys that he's beating he's going to go from my ankleand I'm going to be out of there how confident are you that that's your next fight well yeah I don'tknow about that because I just found out he broke his leg and so that's going to take some timeto heal and I'm looking to get back in there even next month but I saw that they might havea January card at team mobile and I love to get on that so perhapsGarrett Armfield next.
02:23:42Garrett Armfield.Is that the guy on X that was tweeting at me?Yeah, he said when chat GPT writes your post-fight speech.Yeah, exactly.That's why I said the chat.Like, no one knows who this guy is, you know?And so it's like, maybe he needs to look on chat GBT or something and memorize some stuff.I mean, these guys, she's probably one loss away from being cut, so it's like I don't
02:24:08even paying mine to these people.I noticed someone in the post-fight press conference that you had asked you about Chale being,excuse me, not Chale, D.C. being critical of your wrestling.And then you said, oh, he's, you know, he's, he's, he's, what was the town that he's from?You're from Clovis.Yeah, he's right.He coaches at Gilroy.Gilroy, Gilroy.
02:24:29I thought he was throwing shade on me, but, I mean, I talked to him.Because I saw you guys take a picture together.I thought you're, boy, you trained with him, right?There you are.With him, yes, yes.And he gave me a lot of insightful, you know, just tips about being the smaller, you know, wrestler, so to speak, in this heavyweight division.And he gave me a lot of good knowledge, so no ill will there, no ill feelings.I thought maybe it's because you're a John Jones guy now.
02:24:59Yeah, I mean, I'm not choosing a side there.Okay.I'm not choosing.All right.I'm not choosing to decide.I'm friends with both of themThere you areSo do you actively train with John?
02:25:11I did, yeah, yeahDid, not anymore?I don't know if he's training right nowOkay, I don't know if he's training right now, soBut you're at Jackson Wink, right?Yeah, and he has a...He has his own thing, right?Yeah, he has his own thing, he rents his own building
02:25:27and, you know, he gathers a bunch of guys when he's training.And so what is it like actually being in the room with John Jones?yeah it's just cool to see like how these high level guys they they operate and it's when he goesinto practice it's no waste in movements it's it's all methodical um he's he's a strategist on top ofbeing a freak athlete like it's that's a scary combo that's interesting because he he'sbanging the drum about fighting on this white house card but unless he's having like secrettraining sessions you're saying he's not training right nowmaybe he is
02:26:07I don't knowI think hehe's probably trainingbutwhen it's a real training campthen he brings ina lot of otherfighters to help him out
02:26:17andmaybe his trainingis more low keyokay right nowwhat about Gablehave you trained with himyeah we trained a little bitwe trained a little bit
02:26:29how was thatit's goodit's goodyou don't seeyou don't findpartners like big guys that are able to control themselves to have a proper bodymovement and so when we trained it was real solid work real respectful on bothends and I thought we got solid work in to see how things are turning out for you
02:26:56now you have this momentum you get the UFC contract you know contender seriesand now getting a win in the UFC two three years ago when you're kind ofcoming to the end of your NFL run.Could you have predicted things would turn for you in this exciting way so soon?Or did you think it would take five, six years before you're fighting at the big leagues?Yeah, I just knew how the heavyweight division is.And you only need like four or five fights to, you know, make an impact in the heavyweight division.And so I kind of was aware of that, especially with my background.
02:27:34I knew if I got a few wins, then, you know, the UFC would, you know, give me a call andgive me a chance, and that's what happened.What did you think of the whole Tom Aspinall-sur-Ga-Gun situation, speaking of theheavyweight division and the Krem de la Crem?What do you think of all of that, how it went down?Yeah, it was interesting.And it's hard to speak on these eyepokes because you're not the one really getting eye-pokedand it's easy for me to just say he should continue on.
02:28:01but yeah, when there's that much on the line and your game paid that much money,it's an interesting decision, you know, it seemed like he got poked and immediately he saidhe couldn't see, and it almost felt like he didn't give himself a chance,and he kind of already accepted the circumstance.And I'm not saying he took the coward way out, but it's just a decision he's going to have to livewith, and if he's okay with it, thenit is what it is I felt like it just made the heavyweight division look bad okay um you know it'sinteresting you started your career in bellator right and this was um right around and then you were
02:28:41on one of those cards post pfl merger you would seem to be the kind of guy that pfl would wantin their heavyweight division it's a little thin right now why didn't you stick around did theytry to keep you yeah they sent me a contract that was it was less money than the previous contract andthey were they kind of rubbed me the wrong way um it took two yearsto even get two fights and and so even after leaving that i was able to getum four fights pretty quickly and and uh lFA and so uh yeah i kind of alreadyknew what where i wanted to go because no one wakes up and and says that they theywant to be pfl champion or bellator you're not dreaming of that as a kid if anything you
02:29:30it's the UFC champion.And so that's how I was looking at it.And I just had that gut feeling that I needed to, you know,try to make it to the UFC.Five fights in 2025.And now here you are.A fixture people are talking about you.So I would say the gamble paid off.
02:29:50Exactly.Exactly.I mean, I had the gut feeling.And usually it always steers me in the right direction.throughout my life. And so, you know, just talking to the people around me, they all feltthe same way, you know, just take the chance. Obviously, you're not going to be making as muchmoney, but it's going to be worth it in the end. And here we are. I got the 50K bonus. And so I'moff to a good start. And I would imagine, given what you said earlier, you would like to be on that
02:30:23White House card. Yeah, yeah, I would love to. I mean, I feel like whoever is on that White House card,I mean, their stock is just going through the roof.And so, yes, I would love to be on that White House card.Are you a Dodgers fan?I grew up a Dodger fan, you know, just being from California,like in all the L.A. teams, L.A. Dodgers, Lakers, and the Raiders.Okay.But, yeah, the Dodgers, they're killing it right now with Tony's a beast.
02:30:53Sure, sure, sure.Yeah, some say that he, like, bets on games and stuff like that.Who knows, really?I mean, who's to check, right?Who's the check, right?Exactly.You never know.So that must have been weird when you played for the Niners.
02:31:04Because didn't you probably grow up hating the Niners if you were an L.A. guy?Yeah, yeah.But I mean, when they're, whoever's paying you, it's, you have to like them now.You have to change your opinion, right?Of course, of course.Well, I think, I think this is great.Everything's working out.I mean, I could see you being a bit of a polarizing figure, but you seem, you seem comfortable with that.
02:31:23You're not here to make friends.No, I'm just, I'm here to make the most of my opportunities.and if I have to speak on the mic, it is what it is.I'm not a big fan.I used to, I had the old school wrestling mentality where it's like,forget everybody.I don't need to talk to anybody.I'm just going to grind and I'm going to make it doing that.
02:31:49But that's just not very wise, especially in this day and age.And so you got to do what you got to do now.And that's how I'm looking at it.So my perspective has changed throughout the years.What would change that perspective?I mean, I would think I'm kind of an aware person.I kind of see the writing on the wall of where things are going.And I'm just here to make money.
02:32:14And when you sit down and you look at ways to do that and how to maximize your opportunities,I mean, you have to do this.I feel like you have togive people a good speechor you got to be rememberedin some way or another.Is there a line you won't cross?Is there a bridge too far?
02:32:41Is there a subject that you won't talk about?That's a good question.Maybe the whole Jew andAlastine stuff. I don't know about all that. Okay. What do you mean about that about that?If we stop it there. Is that it? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I like to sit back and see how everything'splaying out and, you know, I don't jump to conclusions on all that stuff. And I see how themainstream media is, you know, choosing a side and I don't like it. Yeah, I did, I did notice in yourPost-Fi press conference, you talked about what's happening in Nigeria, and you said, you know,
02:33:29where's the attention on that? Where are the protests on that, right?Exactly. And that's one thing I do like speaking on is, you know, my faith in Jesus Christ.And so if people are being persecuted for that, you know, I'm going to, I want to at least bringsome light to it. Well, I wish you the best, Josh. Congratulations on an incredible year.Five and O is the stuff dreams are made of.You're now one and on the UFC contender series contract, performance bonus.You're in the bad guy club.I would say this has been a pretty good stretch for you.
02:34:03So well done.Congratulations.I think it's your birthday coming up as well.It is.It is.Yes.So happy early birthday and looking forward to seeing what you do in 2026.If you don't get a fight in December as well, why not?
02:34:16So thank you very much and good luck to you.And thanks for coming on.Great to meet you.Yeah.Thank you.All right.All right.All the best.
02:34:22There he is.Josh Hokit, the incredible.Hoke or Huck, depending on how you pronounce it.Now 5 and 0, 1 and O in the UFC,and very much a player would seem in the heavyweight division.We'd love to see that fight against Walter Walker,and I think a lot of people probably don't know about his wrestling background,which would make the fight that much more interesting.
02:34:45So let's see where he goes from here,but certainly a candidate for one of the rookies of the year.if you're not specifically talking about the UFC very hard to go 5 and 0 in one calendar year.All right, let's move along now and say hello to our final guests of the day.She was very busy last week, had a very big announcement.Ever since her last fight in late July, a lot of people were wondering,where would Clarissa Shields go next?Who would she sign with?
02:35:15It was much talked about that she was a promotional free agent that her deal with,Dimitri Salida and Salida Promotions was coming to an end.There was some thought that perhaps you would sign with MVP,who's obviously putting together a big stable of women's fighters,some of the other promotions out there.But mid-last week, we found out that she is, in fact,resigning with Salita Promotions and Win Records.Massive deal.
02:35:41We'll talk about the terms with her in a moment.But now that saga is over,and we look forward now to her next assignment.We say hello now to the quote,the one and only the pride of Flint, Michigan, the great Clarissa Shields.Hello, Clarissa. How are you?Hey, I'm good. How are you?It's nice to talk to you again. Thank you so much for coming on. Congratulations on this big deal.
02:36:02And so can we take a step back? End of July, you're in the ring. You're winning at home,massive scene, Little Caesar's Arena. What did you think was going to happen? I remember thatpost-fight interview. I remember Dimitri being by your side and you were talking about being afree agent. How did you think at that time, how did you think the story would play out?I really had no idea. I was just open and talking to everybody. And when I say everybody,I mean everybody. And I really wanted to get the best deal because I know that I'm at a differentstage in my career. And I just feel like, I want to go high as I can go. I want to make the mostmoney. And I really just was like, I got to put friendships to the side. And I want to, you know,
02:36:41get the real money. Because I know that I'm going to keep fighting on big platforms.And so how difficult was this process, talking to everyone being a free?agent? Oh my gosh. Listen, it was worth it, but it was so difficult. I mean, listen, I have fourdifferent contracts, you know, looking to everybody contracts, weighing the pros and cons. Andlisten, I just like, it was very stressful. It was not easy at all. But I was, I almost signedwith MVP. Close. How close? How close? Like super close. Okay. So,so what happened um honestly i like everything that they stand for me me and the keys who were ableto talk a lot and he under and he was you know understanding my vision i think that some of our stuff
02:37:33aligned but it just wasn't um i mean it wasn't enough money you know what i'm saying and uh buti love what they got going on over there i love how they promote fights you know um what they've donewith Amanda, done with Katie, done with Alicia.Like, I love that.It just wasn't all the way right for me.You know, like, I have creative control now with my deal with Salita and Win Records.And, you know, with that, it just, it's just a boxing business, but they definitely camewith the most money.
02:38:07And I didn't have to explain my vision because I've been working with Salita sent for nineyears now.And it just was like, listen, I want to be like, really.really, really big.I want to make these events be really, really bigbecause I'm going to go out thereand just overperform, you know?So I'll land you right back at home with Litt.
02:38:26But it was great talking with MVP and Eddie Hearn.Oh, you spoke to Eddie as well?Yeah, when I say I talked to everybody,the only person who I wasn't able to talk to was Turkey Al-Sheek.But I think that's because he's, like,not really big on with me yet.But he always says to everybody who asks himif he was to do a women's fight,
02:38:44he would do one with me.But maybe he was busy around.of time, but I just had to work with those three or four contract that I had and make the bestoption. Did you try to talk to Turkey? Yeah, but he's very hard to contact, man. Very hard tocontact. Fair enough. Fair enough. I can understand that. I think it's interesting that you mentionedthe MVP thing because I'll be honest. I thought you were going to go in that direction, if only becauseof all the names that they've signed in women's boxing, they've really invested deeply into it.But I thought, you know, we talked about it when you're on my show in studio.
02:39:19Like, it seemed like there was a little bit of friction between you guys.And so I was wondering how you'd get over that.It sounds to me like even though you haven't signed with them ultimately, is it fair to saythe friction is gone that you guys are on the same page at least and there's no more,for lack of a better word, animosity there?For now, you never know what's going to happen tomorrow.You know, who will say or who will do what.But up on my end, I'm very happy with my decision and I'm happy to be.
02:39:46be able to talk with Nekisa, you know, and to have conversations and just to see whereour falling out even started at. And I feel like we mended it, you know, but you never know.Somebody may come out tomorrow and say something I don't like, and then I'll say somethingthat they don't like it. They were back beefing again. But MVP had a lot of girls who I do wantto fight. You know, they recently just signed Miller. They have Shadasha Green. They have Savannaha marshal those are girls whowho I would love to still get in the ring withI've already made
02:40:19offers to Raquel by plenty of timeswhen she said no in the past so maybe now that she'llNDP she'll say yessame thing withShadasha and we already know I'll beatSavannah so but I mean a rematch wouldn't really be too badso I mean they got a good stableand people who are just because we're on different
02:40:37sides of the street don't mean that we can't fightwe can still make those fights happenOkay, I'm happy you say that because this is an MMA where if you sign with one promotion,you can't fight someone under another umbrella.This is boxing, right?And look, MVP did Taylor Serrano twice and Taylor's a matchroom fighter.And so I was going to ask you, well, the first time they were – actually, I guess thefirst time they were a part of it.
02:41:00Yes, you're right.So three times.I forgot that that was a matchroom card.These other two times were an MVP card, but fair enough.Okay, okay.The point being, to me, I thought the most interesting fight for you right now is you versusShadasia because, you know, because of the history there and the backstory and whatnot.And so I'm wondering if you get the impression that they will still be open to co-promoting
02:41:23with you and Selena despite the fact that you didn't sign with them.What is your impression?I think that MVP thinks that Shadisha can beat me, which they have all the right to think that.But it's not going to be a hard fight to make.if I'm being honest, to make with any of the girl.I don't think that me signing with Salita will do anything to mess that up.And then, I mean, I don't know what's wrong with the boxing world.And I mean, it's in the most sincere way, even though, you know,
02:41:54Franchon has kind of switched up and she acted how she acted.But Frenchon beat Shadation.So I don't know why people want to overlook that and say styles make fights and why won't you fight Shudatia first.It's like, so I'm supposed to just forget about Franchon, like she didn't beat her up.it's like she deserves an opportunity too.I mean, anybody I want to get beat about a goalcan fight the goal, right?But it's like, we cannot ignore that Frant John
02:42:15is better than Shaday Shredin.No matter who she's signing with.Frenchon is a better fighter.Those girls fought.Frenchon won.So when it comes to me, it's like, I'm going to pick, you know,who I want to fight for one at the time.But it's like, what makes y'all think
02:42:34that she's so much better than Frant John and Franchon beat her?Like, that's disrespectful to me.me. I think there's a couple of things I play here, and maybe I'm wrong. I think number one,you fought Franchon in your debut and beat her. So at least this is like a fresh matchup. And I thinkthat Shadeja's win over Savannah kind of propelled her to a point where that was the highestprofile win of her career and the best opponent that she's ever faced. And I don't know ifFranchon has a win over a fighter that's of that caliber. And so I feel like those, it's notclean, but I think those things are at play here.
02:43:07We're not going to act like Savannah just watched French on that fight was close.I was there in person.No, I know.But you see, like, it's not like one plus one equals two.It's very complicated because you meet Frenchon, Shadija beat Savannah, Savannah, like, it's just a weird one.Yeah, it's a weird one, but I don't like that, like, they try to, try to ignore the fact that that happened.That's fair.I don't think that's, I don't, I'm not ignoring it.
02:43:31I just think that there's, there's some spice to the fight, and I think a lot of people are, I mean, but listen, I got enough time.fight everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah.It ain't really no big deal about who I fight first or last. It's not a big deal.So the terms are, as announced at the press conference, $8 million for two years with a $3 millionsigning bonus, right? How many fights are required to happen in those two years? Four, so twoand two, or it doesn't matter? Like, it doesn't matter? Like, it doesn't have to be two this,two next year and two next year, or does it matter? Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, that's, I mean,that's good math or if you just, I do three fights next year and then fight one the next year.
02:44:10I mean, however we can get for a fight stand within two years, you know, honestly.Okay.And do you know when your next one is?We still getting that figured out.You know, it's so much going on in women's boxing right now.So many different players, you know, so we just getting that figured out.But it would be an announcement quite about two, three weeks, soon as we get somebody to sign a signature.then we'll make the announcement do the press conference and go from there do you have a preference
02:44:39when where and against two if it was up to you you're the boss it's up to me yeah well onemy dream was to fight at t mobile arena in front of 25,000 and be the main event that is myultimate dream in boxing i think once that's accomplished i probably like all right now i now i can'tbe tired i guess no no no because if that happens next you still got a lot more to do right soI understand, like, hypothetically that bike, but I would love to fight up there.But my next fight, I don't know if I want to fight.I know I want to try a different arena, so I love fighting in Detroit.I want to fight at the Barclays.
02:45:17I already said Team Mobile.So wherever we land at, I just know that I'll be prepared to fight and ready to, you know, showcase my skills.Okay.And an opponent, if it was up to you, would it be Franchon?If it was up to me, which it is.Yeah.It doesn't really matter.It doesn't really matter.
02:45:40You know, if it's Franchion, if it's Shudatia, if it's Miller, if it's Michaela, it don't really matter.I'm just letting the team do their job.I'm just in a gym training, getting ready and trying to become faster, stronger, and smarter.That's all I'm trying to do in, John, Jim.The name we haven't mentioned, and the one.one that's garnering the most attention, as you know, is Leila Lee. And we've talked about this,but, you know, like, even in the last like 10 or so days, breakfast club, all this stuff,like anytime you or she talk, you talk about her, she talks about you, it explodes. And so
02:46:14are you guys actively pursuing this fight? Is this something that is being talked about behindthe scenes? I don't know if you guys seen it. She already declined it. So I don't even talk about itanymore. It is what it is. But you posted a video on, on your, your YouTube, like explaining the beefand all that stuff, and that garner's interest, right?It has like 1.5 million views that video alone.Yeah, 1.7 or something like that.Oh, yeah, who's counting?But at the end of the day, listen, she already turned it down.
02:46:40And the reason I think people get mixed and true,they think that, oh, I want to fight her because she's been retired for 17 years,and I'm trying to bully her when she's old and she's this.And that's not it.She's the one that she can knock me out in that nobody can give her competition.And that was my reason for even wanting to fight her.Now that it's been eight years and it's over with,listen she said no perfectly fine that is a okay it is other girls who are better than her
02:47:05who are active who i can fight against do you do you think that she said no because of themoney or do you think she just actually doesn't want to fight you regardless of the paydaywho turn what you just ask me do you think that she say sometimes you say no because you wantmore money right do you think she wants to fight you but just wants more money or do you thinkshe just doesn't want to fight you, period, at this point.I've been in boxing 20 plus years now, and I've been pro for nine to 10 years.And you don't say no to a fight that you want if you want more money.It's called negotiating.
02:47:40So there is no, she doesn't want to negotiate.She doesn't want to fight.And like I said, that is like so beneath me now, and it's been beneath me.You know what I'm saying?I pulled her card.She said no.She may hate documentaries.It is what it is.
02:47:56but the girl designed for $8 million, $3 million signing bonus,and I'm excited to get back inside the ringand show everybody why I got this big look to dealbecause I'm that girl, and I am the greatest woman of all the time.When you say you pulled her car, what does that mean?Like, you called her bluff, basically, like she was talking.There you go.Yeah.
02:48:16There you go.So you made her an actual offer?Yes.And how much was it for?Everybody's seen it.It was $15 million.Okay.For one fight.
02:48:26just me and her.That's what she knew it.Yeah.That's what she said.And what did she say?Ariel, you know what she said.I want to hear from you.I don't know what she said.
02:48:38I didn't talk to her about it.But did you watch her hate documentary?No, I didn't, to be honest.Okay, well, she said no.I know, but what was the reason?I was wondering what the reason was that she gave you?I honestly, I didn't look into that.Okay.
02:48:53No, in the negotiation.Did she say no just via YouTube?or did she actually say no to your people?Her people came, oh, she's busy with this, busy with that.Okay.She'll get back to her whenever she can.And I guess the getting back to us was her making her YouTube hate videos.That's weird.
02:49:13Which came straight from the worst of mouth, which, like I said, it is fine.I don't know.I don't know if you enjoyed talking about this, but I don't.Okay.It is what it is.Like, I'm going to be fighting, you know, January, February,or march against a very sturdy opponentwhere I'm going to come out there
02:49:32guns blazing, sharper as ever,you know, showcasing my skills that I've always shown.I've actually got time now so I can let some of my injuriesheal up and actually get back to training how I used to.So I'm super excited to go on to a fight.Finally, you know, not having no injuries.My last two fights, I was injured very bad,but I still went in there and showcased what, you know,
02:49:54what a goal can do.and I'm just ready to get back inside the ringand just continue to be great, you know what I'm saying?Just to be 100%.So in our arena, 16,000 people, stuff like that.Yeah, no, 100%.And just to be clear, and we'll move on.You're 30, she's 47.
02:50:08She hasn't fought since 2007.I don't have much interest in this fight.I was, like, honestly,I would much rather see you to fight Shadasia,Francha, McKeala Mayer.Yeah, yeah.It was.100%.
02:50:19I just could, I look at the numbers on YouTube,but people, and clearly that's a signthat there's interest.I was like, holy shit.this is the son of this look there there is no interest up on my end look all you got to do istell me no and that's it first of all nobody turns down that much money i wouldn't do it umyou know it just not a thing that people do who want to fight you know what i'm saying i got tooi don't understand the whole the whole conversation but at the end of the day so i'm still
02:50:48going to make that in my career i'm still making more money than she's ever made in a fightand I'm going to continue to do that.Like, you know, $8 million deal for two years is great.But I want to make it to where the girls coming up after me, you know,can make $25 million deals and $50 million deals.So that's what I'm trying to get to and show them like a real blueprintbecause there is a blueprint to make a lot of money in women's boxing.You just have to learn it.
02:51:15The Michaela one is really interesting, given your Olympic background and whatnot.Oh, my God, Michaela kicked.Mary's screaming ass.Yeah.Were you surprised?I was so geeked.I'm like, oh, my God,freaking Michaela came out there like a monster.
02:51:31Like, she was driven.She was like a madwoman.I was like, oh, Lord.I mean, after the fight,Eli, Mary Spurson was like,what the hell just happened?I was great.I love seeing it.
02:51:42So you like this fight?You like this idea?No, I do.I do.I think, you know,160, 154 for me and Michaelawould be fair.I have been at 160 in the past two years,
02:51:58but I mean, you know what I'm saying?If that's a great fight,and she's ranked number three on a pound-lice now,so I mean, like, that'd be great to fight another fighteron a pound-th-pound list,knowing that we both have a little background,went to the Olympics together,have been around each other the majority of my life.
02:52:16You know, people don't know, but TMI,but Michaela told me how to wear a freaking tamponwhen I was 16.So just being able to shed a ring with her will be greatAnd I think it'd be great for women's boxing to be on SwitchingYou mentioned the Olympics, by the waySo you did mention last week the 2028, the desireDo you think this could happen?
02:52:37Do you think this could happen, really?And wouldn't that, like, there's no money involved in that, right?So now you're on this trajectoryWhere you're making big, big money,that would pause it for a minute as you prepare,As you kind of rel-you have to, it's a different style, right?The amateur boxing, Olympic boxing,Very different.
02:52:53Yeah, so would that make sense financially for you?You've been there, done that.You won two gold medals.Well, some stuff you have to do for the history of it.It's not really about the moon.I love representing America when I went to Olympics.I love wearing that U.S. sale on my chest and being able to just represent my countryand to fight for us, you know, and it's one of the highlights of my career.
02:53:20to be able to go to the Olympics one timeto win a gold model was great,but I've done it two timesand, you know, to have an opportunityto go and do it again,listen, I've hit up USA boxing,I've hit up everybody,and I've let them,
02:53:33man, what the heck would they do that?What happened?What happened?Someone called you?Yeah, and they know I'm on an interview.That's crazy.That's all good.We still see you.
02:53:44Oh, no, but I would love to go backand represent my countryand just been able to go for a thirdOlympic gold medal and hey I'm the last person to win Olympic gold medal for the USAand boxing 2012 and 2016 so hey if the opportunity came and it was a and it was a way whichI think it is I would love to go through the process and and do it wow that would be a spectaclethat would be something and much respect to you if you if you do go down that route can I askbecause you're you're very smart you're very in tune with the business side of things
02:54:19have you been paying attentionto this Ali Act stuffabout, you knowYeah, yeah, I have.How do you feel about all of thatpotentially changing this?I think that the Ali Actis what protect fighters.
02:54:32You know,giving us the knowledge to know,one,our de-instructed with our promoterand then to knowing,you know, what's the revenueand what's this and what's that,making sure that we're getting paid fairly.
02:54:44So I don't think that it should be changed.and I just I think I think I think it's a little crazy you know what I'm saying but you know I feel like boxing has become like a thing where it's hard to make fights because these guys want certain kind of money and stuff and I think that they want to put rules and laws in place to where they can like force these fights and then also keep majority.of the money,which I think is not good forfighters, especially of myof my stature.So I don't think it should be a limit on how much we can makeor whatever, but
02:55:28hey,I think that's just withDana White in the Riyadh season thing, right?Yeah, Zufa boxing, they're calling it.They're starting their new promotion.You said you talked to everyone. Did you talk to them?No.I mean, listen, I'm not a beggar.
02:55:45and I'll never have to beg for anything so I'll let everybody know after my fight I was a free agentI'll let it be known I was I was big on it and really whoever reached out to me and wanted to workwith me that's why I was willing to have conversation with and I went and met with NDP in personI talked with Eddie Hearn over over Zoom of course I spoke with Salida and even went recordsand everybody sent there in their contracts and that's just kind of what I what I've been dealing with the past few monthsbut I was happy to finally get it out the wayand just being able to continue in my career.By the way, you mentioned Nekisa.
02:56:21Do you also talk to Jake or just Nekisa?No, I wasn't able to talk to Jake.Okay.He called me one time when he was with Nekisa or something like that,but I ended up missing a phone call.Okay.You know, we talked about a lot of opponents.Maybe Sidney-Sweeney as a potential next year.
02:56:41Huh?You versus Sidney Sweeney, she's into the boxing now.No?I heard their name from.The actress, who's playing Christy Mark.Oh, the one that's playing Christy.Yeah, it was a joke.It was a joke.
02:56:55Oh, my God.Yeah.Oh.Oh, it was a joke.Sorry.It was a joke.Didn't you say that you'd be willing?Because she said she wanted to maybe try a play.
02:57:06TNZE just asked me about her at my press conference.So I see that she said she want to have a box.match, right?Yeah, yeah.She kind of openly talked.Yeah, but she, I mean, she's a big Hollywood star.Yeah, I think she should wear her head, get her first fight, but after that,if she won't take it off and she gets some more experience, why not?
02:57:23I think everybody should, like, should be in a fight.Speaking of, have you never been in a fight?Me?Yeah.A pro boxing bout or an amateur boxing bout?Either.Or a street fight?Either.
02:57:35You're been in the fight?No, no, I haven't.I'm a lover.Oh, you're missing out, man.You need to get, you need to get.Are you saying, are you?Are you saying that I don't have the, I don't have the street cred unless I do it, unless I make that walk?No, it's not really like a street cred thing.
02:57:48It's just like, you know, people like to give judgment and stuff like that to fighters.And it's just like, you don't really understand what fighters have to go through unless you experience it.Are you saying, I'm that kind of guy?No, I'm just saying, like, I think sometimes your taste can be a little, you know.What?Questionable.Comsi, come so?Baby, can't go go get the food.
02:58:10Oh.Did you give him the coat?No?All right.Hold on.Just as you're insulting me, you say my taste is questionable.Now I'm going to be...No, I think it's questionable.
02:58:22I think that sometimes you judge fired us pretty hard a little bit.You think so?I feel like I'm very respectful.No, like you're respectful, but you know, you...You're like real.You know what I'm saying?Okay, so you respect that?Yeah, yeah.
02:58:35I respect realness.Yes, absolutely.I do boxing twice a week and I spar on Fridays,but I don't reallyI don'tNo, but this is me and my trainerand he's like goingHe's going like 50%
02:58:47I mean he's goingNot even 5015% probably on meBut I wear a mouthpieceAnd he punches me in the faceInterestingI would love to see thatYou what
02:58:56Can I send you some of my footage?Please send meAnd lastlySend me your addressSo I can see your goat dogOh what's that what's that?The the wokeOh a doll
02:59:08A dollOh you have one?I have one, yesOkay, it's a dealYou're hard to get toYou're hard to get to youYou need to be like thatYou can't listen
02:59:20I haveI used to be able to where you just contact meSure, sureNow I was like no I have to put something in betweenBecause people areOne, I'm way too niceI thinkI'm way too nice
02:59:32But I need to have somebodyWho they meetWho's not nice before they get to meSo they understand when you get to meAin't of that bull crap goingWell, we're not haters here.I told you, my producer has your signed glove above his head.Every time we show him, your glove is in the shot.
02:59:48You know that right there.Look, that's you.I appreciate that.Ariel, like, you have never been, like, been, like, bias or anything.I think that you know what's real, you know,and that you respect my skills and everything.And that's all I really want at the end of the day.Just respect my hard work and respect my skills.
03:00:05That's good of all the world for me.Well, congratulations.Mazel Tov, as Dimitri said.leader would say yes you know what i'm actually going to go jet shopping this week i heard jetscost about 500 000 to maintain a year but i want to see if i can give me a jet or somethingbecause sometimes these flights and all this stuff be be like holding me up maybe i had a privatejet you know i can i can get around easier so i'm really excited about this um i really want to saysomething thank you to every last one of my fans who came to my fights who bought any of my
03:00:38pay-per-views, who bought any of my wokegear. You guys are so respectedand loved by me.And whenever I'm going through someone on socialmedia, like they're always defending me,sending me motivational messages,and that reallymeans a lot. So I appreciate
03:00:54that. Andhey, we're only going higher.I love it. Shout to Slalita and winrecords. Woo-hoo!Congratulations. Well done, Clarissa. All the bestto you. You've earned it. You deserveit. Looking forward to the next one.thank you all right there she is
03:01:10Clarissa Shields look at that smilevery happy she hasshe has cashed in a big way two yeardeal eight million over the courseof those two years four fightsthree million dollar signing bonusand I thought she was about to call me outreal quick I thought she wanted that smoke
03:01:27for the record those fighting wordsI did not want any of that smoke I did notwant any of thatshe was listed on thatthat list of a bonus for Jake Paulso maybeI wanted none of that.But you must be very happy, right, Rick?
03:01:41I mean...I mean, this is quote things, you know?Like, I'm thrilled for her.I'm happy that you have the glove therebecause anytime I feel like she's turning on me,I could just go to that.Like, we're fans!Look, we're fans.
03:01:52Who fuck is we?That's right.Who the fuck is we?That's right.Thank you, Dustin.Thank you, Dustin.I am, definitely.I love the quote.
03:02:01Great stuff there.Great stuff there.What about Chale?Chale and Steve?He's a real-life cowboy.Shout out to Steve.Shout out to Steve.I see why he rolls around New York with that guy.
03:02:11Yo, that guy is like belt buckle,oh yeah.Hat, shoes.But loves New York.But loves New York.This is his father-in-law.Would you travel from Ireland to New York with just your father-in-law, just the two of yous?Jimmy?
03:02:25Yeah.Jimmy Slater's a legend, yeah.Okay, all right.I mean, by the way.He's very much in demand in Dublin in general.I said the same thing.I feel like, yeah, you might just have a problem, Ariel.I know.
03:02:36I'm such a haterer.I'm just trying to.play up the whole... Is there beef?No, there's no beef. Because me andPizzi, we're locked in. Father-in-law,you want to go take a trip?Whatever he wants, I'm ready to go.We're going on vacation in December
03:02:45together, him and I.Just you two?Well, there's a lot of...Oh, yeah, yep.Family, you know, we come together.Speaking of Chale...What about the...Yes, yes, yes.
03:02:56Dewash a la...Okay, he hit every...It was the greatest hits of Chales mispronunciations.DeWashalavili is number oneby far. It will never be top.Diwasha LaviliPieroNo, no
03:03:09Diwasha LevelyEven Paramountgot mispronouncedParamountWhat did they sayHe saidParamountOh, okay
03:03:16He hit BlahalHe hit MachelchevYeah, about 17Machel ChavesThe bulletThere was theThere was theThe bullets
03:03:25The bulletHe never saidValentina or ShepchenkoHe was simply the bulletI love thatPieraThe AustralianThe Slander
03:03:34CrazyNo love for the boysdown underThat is true, and you guys gave me something, but I only saw it afterwards, unfortunately.What was this little nugget here?Australia is zero boxing, wrestling, or judo gold medals at the Olympics, two silver and ten bronze.So that's not horrible.It's not?
03:03:51Well, no gold.No, I know, but he said, like, they have no presence whatsoever.You know, two silver and ten bronze for a tiny nation is not the worst thing in the world.Tiny nation, wow, Australia's getting...It's fucking huge!I mean, a tiny nation, how many, how many...Population are great.What is their delegation?
03:04:08No, no, I mean population-wise.But how big is their delegation?It's not that big.By the way,they'll just...They do.Just circling back.I did get a DM mid-show
03:04:18from a gentleman named Andy Stevensonwho wrote that Pizzi is 100% wrongabout tipping, no line,tipping culture entirely different.He's trying to act like a South Sider.So I don't know.Well, you see, the problem is he is...Leon as well was calling into question.
03:04:34Very wealthy man.He's from the south side, and they don't see menial workers as workers at all.They don't see them as human beings.So when Andy's getting his trough of lobster or whatever it is, he eats every day,he just be like, now get out of my quarters.I on the other hand say, thank you very much.Here is some money because I know that your employers are paying you so poorly.You know, that's just me and him.
03:04:54I never said there was a line, Ariel.I said tipping.I asked multiple times about the line.You said, yep, there's a line.I didn't say there's a line.Even Leon.I've never seen a line either.Even Leon got a shot in.
03:05:05Did you happen to hear that?He said you were very posh.I did.Well, you need a back garden.He definitely has a big back garden.He forgets, I know where he lives, too.He is a massive guy from Birmingham.Don't believe you.
03:05:14You want to see his car?I mean, he's a brand new Mercedes jeep joan and big, huge, formatic things.Leon, I've been around you, mate.Don't give me this.You're way more rich, way more rich than I'll ever be, my friend.A quick update on the standings for USA golds in judo wrestling and boxing.109.Holy crap.
03:05:34Gold medal.Compared to zero.not bad for a small missionI won't have a pointobviouslyhey shout out the obanobviously he has a point to a degreebut I didn't feel like Jack Della
03:05:45and by the waywe love the Aussies they have two active champions rightyes Australia is enjoying like a massiverenaissancethey have James to Houdonenjoying a massiveI don't even know if Renaissance is the worda resurgence
03:05:57I don't even know if resurgence is the worda surgence if that's even a wordin all of combatin in MMA and boxing Jenslet's goaround the world of combat sports, shall we?There's a lot going on. There's a lot to get to.We briefly touched on this with chill,
03:06:12but everyone's making a big dealregarding Islam Mahachev's, his physique.What do you guys make of this? Is this changing youropinion on the fight? Is this making you think that he's gota better chance at beating Jackdell? We have the footage,right, of him walking around. We've shown it a coupletimes. Yeah, there's Usman, and here'sold Islam. Here's your man, Islam,
03:06:32P.C., what do you make of this? Everyone going crazy over thisfive second clip.Yeah, I mean, he's beefed up, isn't he?But I expected him to be.Like, he's emaciated at 155.I think most people are making a thing about it, like, you know, the creatine thing.I think that's where it's a big deal.Oh, I just started taking creatine and now I'm enormous.
03:06:53He has to make up for height differences and stuff with size.And sure, like, look at, I know Habib is not competing now, but he looked completely different.on fight night than he did when he was fightingI think this is just a natural thing to expectwhen a lad is moving up from155 up to a new divisionhe has to make up for it somehowand it was going to have to be size
03:07:15it's not like he can just add three inches of heightto his to his size in generallyyou know what I mean but definitely substantialman there's no doubt about thatyou guys agree with what chill was sayingno buzz no one talk like it really isan amazing car but then when you break down the personalitiesI can kind of see but I feel
03:07:33I don't know I feel like I feel likepeople are pumped about this one.Yeah, but this does feel like a fight fan's car to an extent, right?Like, it's, I don't think Islam and Jack are the guys that get, like, Islam is one of the bigger stars.Yeah.Some is very popular.But I don't think casual people are tuning in for the Islam's in the same way that it's the Connors, the Johns, the Alex, even Alex, you know, like, I think he draws in a different fan base.And so, yeah, I get that.
03:08:01But there's not a fight fan.There's not a fight fan.an MMA fan that is not going to be watching this card.If you're a fight fan, you're through the route for this one,I do have to say, did the Dorman test this morning?And I was like, you know, you don't watch the UFC this weekend?He's like, no, who's fighting?I was like, oh, dude, it's at MSG, it's Islam Mokkelshev and Jackman.
03:08:21Yeah.And he had no idea that it was happening.Serious.He was like, oh, I guess I'll have to tune in.I guess I'll have to tune in.That's right, Bob.Oh, you dropped it, who's to check?I did it for you guys.
03:08:32I did it for you guys.I did it for you guys.They popped back here.I was hoping to pop the...I'm always trying to entice...I want to see, like,how far Frank's, you know, self-preservation could go.Like, I'm trying to get him to press...
03:08:45I'm trying to get you to press the button.In the middle of an interview, it's dicey.It's dicey.Those top four fights in particular are incredible.The five is amazing.Bone nickel and then some of the other fightson the prelims, like, what more...I know we always say that.
03:09:03But I think it's the best...pay-per-view of the year.Yeah, probably.I can't think of one, one through five of the year that I'd like better than this one.In my opinion, without a doubt it is.I know Ovin did the stats last week about it, but Dana White tweeted or Instagram tographic, 21 fighters coming off a win, 14 on win streak, nine fighters on four pluswin streaks.
03:09:22It's pretty incredible, three undefeated fighters.Stole that from Oven, by the way.Yeah, no credit to Oven, I noticed that.Same graphic?Did you just cut and paste it?No.Freak M.A. made a graphic up of it.No love to.
03:09:33You shared it, though?No love the.to Oven. Well, it's not onlyabout UFC 322 on Saturday nightguys, we're also getting the Connor Benversus Chris Eubank rematch,which again, a lot of people are saying... I was justabout to say, is flying under the radar, right?
03:09:46This feels like no buzz. Yeah.And here they are. Do they talk to each other here? Can we gosound full? Yeah, they're not saying much.Okay, it's just...A lot of finger pointing.I mean, no one even in between themis playing with fire.the amount of the eggs there.
03:10:06Yeah.Not to keep harping on it.You want to know how no buzz this is?Tell me, tell me.The Dorman Test, who's a diehard boxing fan?He said, I'm going to have to watch the UFC because there's no boxing.Oh, my word.Wow.
03:10:19You want even another indicator?Yeah.We didn't know.You didn't even know what was happening.Last week, I dropped in a video of their face-off that DeZone posted and said, like, this is the best rivalry in combat sports.Maybe the best rivalry.in all those sports, and not one of youmotherfuckers even clicked the link, watch the video, or
03:10:38said a thing. Couldn't be bothered.No, I'm kidding.We're over here.I watch three minutes and turned it off, mate.We're over here spinning upstorylines about all these bullshit rivalries.This is again, the best.And you know what?
03:10:51They're going to produce in the ring.And again, I'm going to get to gloat on Monday morning.And you guys are going to be like,you know, you said it, but it's going to be incredible.I can't wait.I can't wait.I do wonder.If I remember correctly, though, there wasn't a massive buzz
03:11:03that this early in the fight weekthe first year. Yes, that's right. It wentfucking crazy towards the end. That's right.Remember a big frank in therewith the, uh, with thethe, the way in and everything. It went intooverdrive and then, of course.The egg. The big reveal.
03:11:19No, the egg was far before fight.Egg was far before. Yeah. Yeah, it was white.What's it like over there? Where,we're boxing is probably a little bit more popular. You'recloser to the UK. What's it like over there?Like a few people have talked to me about it. Like, justum, looking forward to the fight or whatever, butI think it's always way too early
03:11:36as well as with UFC 3-22very, it's too early at this time of the week.We're only getting over the massive eventat the apex, you know?We have to let ourselves settle downfor a couple of days.It's a brilliant card.I can't fucking wait.
03:11:48And after all the shit that's going on in this sportwith the gambling and everything,it's just great to look at a cardand just like, I cannot wait to watch these lads fightand that's how I feel about it.I've got to say, you got to start holding me to it.I've been meaning to adoptthe like European, Australian individual numbers
03:12:03when I say the pay-per-view event?Yeah, 3-22.I love that.I got to drop the 32.U.S.C. 3-22.I didn't even realize it did it, yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah.You'd say 322?
03:12:13No, no, no, no, 3-22.Okay, yeah.Maybe I zigged while everyone else is zagging, and I say U.S. 322.322 is very regal.I don't mind that.UFC 320 this weekend in Madison Square Garden.I actually kind of love it.This is horrible.
03:12:30No one else is doing it.By the way, speaking of this past weekend, what did you guysof Hokit in the cageand then in the interview, inthe chat. Any thoughts onthis personality? I mean, for the most part,he's pretty like even keeland then he drops a couple of nuclear bombs.
03:12:46You know, he's prettylike actually mild-mannered.Yeah. I like it. I likeanyone that's going to get the juices flowingat this stage. Just give me something. You know what I mean?I don't care if people feel bad about itor good about it. Just get peoplefeeling something at this stage. That's what you want,
03:13:01especially on an apex card.off as many people as you want,just make us feel some. That's whatthe heavyweight division needs. Especially at heavyweight.Yeah, I like what he'sdoing because I think heavyweight desperatelyneeds it. But it is justanother reminder that like the glory
03:13:17days are not coming back. We will notget another chale. We will not get another Connor.Like it just doesn't, it doesn't hit the same.It does not hit the same. But it'sat least something. I'll take it.What about this group chat as well? This revelationthat there's an Oben alley at Kobe CovingtonChielsen and group chat? A bad guy's chat.
03:13:33And now Josh is in it.I mean, that's probably the greatest honorthat someone of his stature can get right now.That's a meeting of the minds right there.Yeah.Owen and Kobe is an interesting combo.Despite having never met, they all have each other's backs.Can I be honest with you guys?
03:13:51No joke?No joke.I think Douglas Crosby called him 14 times in that interview.Yeah, one time we caught a glance of it.He just kept calling him over and over and over.And it got to the point where, like, I would look,and then he would silence itand then I just wanted to be like
03:14:05does he want to come onlike very clearly nowevidently you're hereso why is he keepwhy is he continuing to callI don't understandI love that Jail and SteveCowboy Steve went out to watch
03:14:19fights to supportDouglas CrossMMA judgejudging yeahlet's go Doughe's got the scoresyeah you got that one109
03:14:29didn't get the call for MSGdare I sayit's toughit's toughyeahwell guysI do want to let you knowthat you can watch
03:14:42the Chris Eubankversus Connor Ben fighton DeZoneand DeZonehas rolled outsomething called theultimate planhave you guys heard about this
03:14:50this is very excitingthey announced back inJuly I do believethat they were getting ridof thethe pay-per-viewsituationwell really now it's like
03:15:02like, I don't know, it's like this pass where you get X amount. I even got, well, let me readthis here because I actually got a breakdown from our old friends at DeZone. So the pricing,it varies by market, but in the U.S., it's 4499 a month or 2499 pounds in the UK per month,or you could pay up front 449.99 or 24999 for even better value.And so if you pay the 4499 or the 2499, you get every single show that includes what wouldhave been a pay-per-view.It's one subscription that includes 12 plus pay-per-views in addition to the 185 boxing eventsplus other content that comes with your traditional DeZone subscription.
03:15:58do you guys think of this? This is something that I think other, um, other people have said likeregarding ESPN plus back in the day, like, hey, if we could get one. The question is, are there12 shows that are pay-per-view price worthy to make this worth your while? Because I think nowthe subscription, the monthly subscription is somewhere in like the 1999 range, but then you'dhave to pay for the pay-per-views. Can't imagine this is going to be a huge hit.You don't think so?I don't think so.You think people would just pick and choose?
03:16:32I think they would prefer to, yeah.Because it's a lot.It's a lot, man.You're paying almost $500 a year.Yeah.And then, like, they got your money up front.Where's the incentive to beef up the cards, right?Exactly.
03:16:44Once you're in.Yeah, it's interesting.I mean, I think the original reaction was they're just going to do away with pay-per-view,but now it's more of a, I don't know,I mean, think about if, like, if the UFC came out with this, and they're charging $80a pay-per-view over the course of the year, that's over $1,000, even if they charged $500 a yearfor everything, I still don't think people would be that hyped up about it.You know, I'm looking up now, like, NFL Sunday ticket in the U.S.
03:17:16I don't subscribe to it.How much do you think it is?$340.4.99, I thought.276.Oh.Bye.NFL Sunday ticketis 50% less than this
03:17:30and you're gettingI pay 200how much you payI'm just checkingI'm paying like200 for NFLand then I'm payingwhat are we looking at
03:17:39receiptsIs this before tip or afterday?Yeah no I like thatI'm on the fuckingthe app herehang onand then
03:17:46But I meanJust the look on his faceright nowwhat's happeningHe needs glasses like thisSo you're likeNo you get good luckHow much am I
03:17:54Pete is strugglingI'm not in this new thing and I'm paying 20.It looks like you just linked your fingers and now you're working through a file cabinetto find your receipts.By the way, you aren't.No one is a part of it.Did you just show your credit card?What was that?
03:18:09I'm paying 1999 a month for DeZone.Okay.Yeah.So you're on the same thing as me.But by the way, for the 1999, I don't get Ben Eubank.Yeah.I don't get like the top tier.I don't get the, I'm not getting Devin Haney, Brian Norman next week.
03:18:24Yeah.Yeah.So.Yeah, so you're saying incrementally you can pay a little bit more and get those pay-per-views.But what G.C. is saying is, like, how many of those are going to happen that I want to lock in ahead of it?And then when you compare it to Sunday ticket where you're getting, you know, how many games are you getting on Sunday?What is it?Would it be like 15 or so?
03:18:43Yeah, it's like 14 games.Yeah.Over the course of 17 weeks.It's a lot of content.It's a lot of.Someone do the math.It's a lot of games.And it's for 50% less.
03:18:54Yeah.Hang on.And it's also the NFL.Yeah.So we're paying five quid more for this new thing, and we have all the pay-per-views as well?Is that correct?Well, no, right?So right now, right now yours is, if you're, I'm assuming you'll go by UK, it's 2499 pounds.
03:19:11They don't have, they don't have Ireland listed or Euro listed.But that's what it's saying a month or 24999 a month, excuse me, a year.249-99 pounds a year.for the 12 shows plus everything else i don't know let's see by the way so what do you get forthat upper tier the 44 you're getting everything you're getting the pay-per-views and everythingin it did like like like uh virtual artis fight this past weekend was not a pay-per-view so you'll getall of those you know all those those those shows the MVP cards whatever whatever in additionto ben you bank in addition to norman uh haine in addition to and at the 25
03:19:54tier, it's those big showsplus the local shows, but notthe pay-per-views. It's $44,American, $45 American.$45 a month, $25in the U.K.He also talked about getting rid of paperview.Okay, got it, I didn't realize, okay.
03:20:10I thought they were getting rid of pay-per-views.You talked about getting rid of pay-per-views,so now you're upping the price,which I can't imagine customers are going to be happy with.It's like, wait, I thought paper views were gone,now we have to pay this extra price to get them.I would just imagine most fans will pick and choose.You know what I mean?
03:20:25They'll just be like, okay, I'm into this card.I don't want to pay up front or pay even monthly $44 a month.By the way, this is still not available in Canada, Spain, Italy, France, Portugal, Belgium, Taiwan.D-A-C-H?What's that?What's D-A-C-H?And Japan.It is available on over 170 markets, including the U.K, including the U.S.,
03:20:50and I would presume Ireland as well.What is D-A-C-H?Oh, D-A-C-H.Is that German?It refers to the region of German-speaking countries,Deutschland, Austria, and Switzerland.Okay, well, there you go.Hey, shout out the Switzerland.
03:21:00That's a new one me.Yeah, I've not heard that one before.So anyway, that's what they're doing.And I guess the first one to fall under that umbrella, if you will,is the one this weekend.The show this weekend.Now, one show that will not be a part of this,it appears, at least for now,
03:21:21is the misfits,card in December, December 20th. That's the one headlined by Andrew Tate versus Chase Damore. And Frank,we do have some breaking news regarding this card. A rematch that is some three or so years in themaking is going to be happening on this card. It is in fact going to be Dylan Danis against AnthonyPretty Boy Taylor. You may recall some three or so years ago in a parking lot in Austin,Anthony Taylor rockedDylan Danisthe punch hurt
03:21:55around the worldyou guys remember thatand now they're actuallygoing to be fightingfor the MFBMMA championshipI believe it's a light heavyweighttitle or something
03:22:04that they're calling itanyway what do you guys thinkyou in you outno I'm outit's an actualsomewhat accomplishedit's his hardestopponents
03:22:13it's a boy of distanceit's totallyit's actually the most accomplished opponentthat he's ever facedoutside of Jiuyou're inyou got a belt onthe line, we get a rivalry renewed, and we get questions answered.
03:22:27Hey, what more could you want?Show that clip over and over again.The promo is going to hit hard.It's going to be too much yappen.He has wins over UFC veterans, Dean Barry and Chris Avila.Hell yeah.Dean Barry.Too much yappen.
03:22:37Too much yappen.Not into it?No.So far, you're not into this card?No.What are they calling it?The nightmare?Mania.
03:22:45No, no, something before Christmas.The fight before Christmas.The fight before Christmas.It's not misfits mania.It is called.Oh, yeah, there's.It is.Come on, mate.
03:22:53Sorry, sorry,sorry.No, it is.It is.Mania.No, it is.It's all.Let me just say this.
03:22:59It's almost like,I come to misfits for crazy shit.It's almost too legit.That's what I don't want it.Boy, Taylor,is not crazy enough for it.It's like,Andreel.
03:23:09Anthony Taylor is,they fought in the parking lotof a misfits event.Okay, hear me out.If you were fighting in the parking lot,I'd fucking love it,but they're not.They're fighting in a ring.
03:23:19Let's head out to the parking lot.Where we'll get Dylan Danis versus Pretty Boys.That would actually be kind of cool.Yes, it would be great if they were like to the scene of the crime.They did like a fight club thing where everyone stood around them.Yes.I would be in.They have the Nissan Ultima that Dylan Vanis fell into.
03:23:35Love the idea.KSI standing by with a cup of coffee.Wait, does KSA even allowed now that he's not, you know, that Tates the CEO?I don't know.But, yeah.It's too legit.It's too like, I don't know.It's like, this is like a real fight.
03:23:48I don't really want it.Dylan versus the mechanic was perfect.I mean, come on, we get the Misfits Light Heavyweight Belt on the line.Yeah, it's big.Oh, yeah, wow.Huge.Again, too legit.Why do we need the Misfits Light Heavyweight belt?
03:24:01It's a real title, Rick, and frankly, your tone.It's a recognition, man.This is my point.It's a real title.I don't need a real title.You have held that belt.I want them to be fighting for...Actually, literally one person has held it.
03:24:12That's the prestige.So you're not into that one.Maybe a few weeks later, you'll be into Ilya to Poria versus Patty Pimblit.There's some talk that the firstParamount pay-per-view is going to be atT-Mobile Arena. And Patty isthrowing down the gauntlet. There's a two-horserace. I think it should be a one-horse race. I think it's
03:24:28the most... I think thatit is the biggest no-brainerin the history of no-brainers.It has to be Patty v. Illia.Like, nothing makes more sensein this timing-wise as far as who's available.Superstardom, stature,X, Y, and Z. Anyway,
03:24:44here's Patty talking aboutit via his YouTube channel.I just want to get a fight on, lad.Bozilia's ever done to talk shit about me, saying I'm shit, saying I don't deserve to fight him.After his last fight, I get in the cage and he pushes me, I think it's happening.And now all's a maiden is he's stolen.He's not saying yet to the fight, he's stolen.If I'm that shit, lad, I just want to take an easy fight and beat me down.
03:25:06Step up, as Tyson said, sign the contract, big boy.That's a classic line, by the way, him and Bob Sapp from back in the day.guys, we are one fight removed from Max Holloway,brutally knocking out Justin Gitchie in one of the most vicious knockoutsin the history of the sports.Since then, he has a win over Raphael Fazeve, a short-noticed fight.How are you in the mix for a title shot?I don't get it.
03:25:29I really don't get it.He's had multiple title shots before.He's had opportunities to fight for the belt.Patty has not.He's undefeated in the UFC.He's only gotten better.His last win was against the game.Michael Chandler, a TKO win.
03:25:42Like, PT, do you not agree?this is a no-brainerthere's a history therethere's like what is itfour or five yearsno maybe not fivefour yearssince their interaction
03:25:50in that hotelthree at at worstit's threeit's threecome onit'll be fourI think come Marchor something like that
03:25:57the point isthe point isthis is a no brainerand I can onlyI can only thinkthat the UFC agreesand they're justkind of waiting
03:26:06to make the announcementI don't get this oneand I see Justinyou knowthrowing down the gauntletlike hey I'm going to retireif I don't get a title shotbut okay, Patty versus Ilya is infinitely bigger
03:26:18than Justin versus Ilya.Absolutely.I'm, you know, I don't want to,I was saying this before I even fought Chandler,that if he, the B Chandler,he'd probably be in the mix for that title.And he's just that guy.He is in rarefoyed air.
03:26:33Like we're talking about this card,3-2-2, we all love it.Hardcore fans love it.There's brilliant fights up and down the card,but Paddy Cators do a completely different audience.Like he is that,I'm not in the same level as a McGregor or a Rousey,but he's bringing a lot of people into the sport that wouldn't be there otherwise,
03:26:49especially in the UK, where he's from in Liverpool.He's been a really famous guy for a very, very long time.I think he brings a lot of eyeballs with him,and that's something the UFC desperately needs.And I always thought this was probably going to be the case,and there's a great clip there somewhere of Sean Shaheen Al Shadi laughing at me,as I suggested this back on the crack a few months back,but I think it makes perfect sense.
03:27:12I haven't really thought about anyone elsefighting Ilya in this time periodI always thought it would be Pattyit makes sense for everybody as far as I'm concernedand I agree with youI don't think Gaichi is in any positionto be negotiating like thisand not only for the fact that he's coming off the loss
03:27:29like he's had opportunities at the title beforeI don't think there's anyonekind of clamoring for him to be in that spot again right nownow this is the fightyou want to start a new era you want to start a newdeal with anew platform that is paying you$1.1 billion a year?
03:27:45Like this is a...Talk about a fight that people will be talking about.Talk about the doormancheck fight. I would imagine yourdoorman is talking to you about Patty versus Ilya.Oh yeah, no doubt. He'd probably have the Patty wigon when I went down to do. Yeah.Hear me out though. Hear me out though.
03:28:00Oh, come on.Listen.No. I'm going to... This is so on Bradrick.We are ready to hear you out.Hear me out. My ears are wide open.Listen to me. Please.This weekend?This weekend.
03:28:10Makachev is fighting.Isam Makachev wins.For months, I heard that we lostout on the big fight. Oh, I'm cryingbecause we didn't get Ilya versusIslam. This was everybody.Everybody was whining and griping.We lost it. Well, guess what?
03:28:26It's back.Islam Makachev wins. You can do Islamversus Ilya. Do you do thatinstead of Islam? Okay, so you actually just threw mea kerbal. You just threw me a kerbal.I thought, so this is a little bit ofshades of Balal and Jack, wherethey waited for that fight to materialize
03:28:42and then they made their decisionand then they went with Ilya versus Charles.I thought what you were going to say wasJack versus Islam,Islam loses.Now Islam goes back.Well, now you've left yourselfwith a massive predicament
03:28:54because your new credo isyou move up,you're dropping the belt.So Ilya's going to drop the 55 beltthat he just won in a vacant title fightto fight the 170 pound champion?All I'm saying is I was toldthat this was the fight of the century
03:29:08that we couldn't do without this fightIf Islam loses, make that fight.Sorry, Patty, make that fight.If Islam loses, you make that fight.If Islam wins, now there's a litany of guys at 170 that should be getting that fight.So if he loses, you're down for it, though.I'm 100% down.1,000%.
03:29:22Fair play.Fair play, Rick, in fairness.Give him credit where it's Jew.We didn't know where he was going with that.Came in.I think only if he loses, though.Only if he loses.If he wins, keep him out 170, keep LIA at 55.
03:29:34If he lose...By the way, it's actually a really good question and hear me out.Islam loses.Islam loses.What's the bigger fight?Ilya versus Islam.Ilya versus Patty.That's what I'm essentially asking.
03:29:49Islam coming off the loss too?Or Red Hot Patty.I don't know.Look, you know, when you were comparing the...When you were comparing the resumes of Patty and Justin,not for nothing.Like, a win over Michael Chandler in 2025 isn't likesome legacy defining win,
03:30:06respectfully to Chandler.Like, I don't think PattyHe's done some worked miracles to the point that I'm like, it can't be anybody but Patty.Isamakachev was the long-reigning champion of that division who never dropped that belt.To me, that still feels like the bigger fight and one I'd be interested in.But I also do think there's a shelf life on how long we can drag out the Ilya and Patty thing.I would like to see it done now.I'm open to either.
03:30:33I think the more significant fight is Ilya versus Islam.I think probably the more popcorny, like you're going to, you're going to, you're going to,going to be planted on your couch is Pattyversus Ilya, I don't think either optionis a bad option for Ilya to pour you. He'sgot very good options for himselfright now. Could Islamwe now be moving Ilya
03:30:51down the road if he was having to wait forIslam? Like, can't Islambe ready in two and a half months?Three months, though? You get itdone before Ramadan?No. It's really good. Yeah, I guess by the timeit's happening, it's going to be November 15th. The paperis probably going to like January 22nd.
03:31:08Yeah, it is asking a lot.Here's my ranking.If Islam loses, if Islam loses, the biggest options are Patty Islam, Justin.I still put Patty above Islam.I just want to...Months ago, everybody said that the UFC blew it.This was the biggest fight ever, and now we're just willing to move on from it?Well, they're in different weight classes.
03:31:29I just think, yeah, I think that's the problem.What is that?Because they're in different weight classes?At the time...155, going from 1.45 to 170s is too big of a jump.it's that's the problem i don't think it's going to happen within three months so i think thatgives you the space to do ilia v patty and then do islam because he's we just startedwe're just looking at videos i'm absolutely yoked walking around okay so now islam after patty
03:31:54if he loses if because if he loses the winning streak's done the the the aura of invincibilityis done even though we all know about davy ramos i think you get the point this is this isthis is half me endorsing that i think islam is the bigger fight for iliet butbut also a revision of, like, how the mania around Ilya versus Islam was.Now it seems like everybody's like, you know what it is?You know what it is?It's a tip of the cap to Patty.I think Patty is a gigantic deal.
03:32:21I think he's a huge star, and I think the buildup to that fight would be one of the biggest of the year.I think it's also the logistics surrounding making Ilya Islam happen now, whereas in the past, it was literally just,I was moving up to 155 make Ilya versus Islam.Wasn't it nice when they could hold their belts and go up?That was a nice era.I like that era a lot.Can I tell you guys a hot take?I think Ilya versus Patty
03:32:40is in the samestratosphere as Jones Pajeda.No.Yeah.No, no.They're that big.I don't know about that.I don't know about that.
03:32:50Ilya is gigantic over there.It's just a different marketthat we're not really tapped into.He's gigantic over there.Patty is gigantic.I think Jones versus Perais a big deal.And it might not be on the same level,
03:33:04but I think it's in the samestratosphere.It's that big, in my opinion.It's in the conversation.of like the biggest fights that the UFC can make,but I think John Jones and Pereirais significantly bigger.Jones and Pereira is the biggest fight
03:33:16that's not a Connor McGregor fight that the UFCcould make, period.Like, there's no other bigger fight than that.And I don't think there's a close thing.I mean, Jones Aspenal is pretty big too.It's your two biggest non-Connor stars.It is your two biggest stars outside of Connor McGregor.I think Ilya and Patty are in the top five
03:33:34as far as biggest stars. Maybe, but they're not ahead ofJohn and Alex.Who's bigger?Ilya and Islam would be there as well.Ilya and Islam would be there too, yeah.Yeah, Islam is also...They're top five, but they ain't one or two.All right, let's talk about a couple other things.
03:33:50We were talking a lot about the Ante Delia Waldo Cortez-A Costa fight,this courtesy of our good friend Ben Folks over at uncrown.com.He has unearthed more information regarding this fight.He found out that Antidellia's team has filed a formal complaintwith the Nevada Athletic Commission requesting a hearing on the map,matter, according to a letter sent to the NAC and later provided to uncrowned by Delia'sattorney Ross Goodman, who's been around the fight game for a very long time.I know him well.
03:34:17He's been involved in some big cases over in Nevada.The Delia Camp is requesting that the result be changed to a no contest due to a, quote,clear rules violation, end quote, on the part of the officials.This is unprecedented, Goodman told uncrowned, quote, this is why I'm trying to get the commissionto look at this.This is bigger than anti, bigger than this one event.It's about guys, are you going to follow your own rules?But according to NAC, Executive Director Jeff Mullen,
03:34:44the commission did follow its own rules,even if those rules may differ from the unified rulesof mixed martial arts on this matter,and the incident was handled properly.We talked about this last week.It's a tricky situation, in other words,and it all comes down to the use of instant replay in MMA.And so Ben goes through all of this.
03:35:00One thing that was discussed was bringing in the stool,bringing the cut men, that is not discussed.but I think part of the problem is herethe unified rules and the Nevada rulesare different and there's different languagewhich I would strongly suggestthey should all get on the same pageand have the same rules
03:35:18so that there is no discrepancyanyway go check out uncrown.comgreat reporting there.There's been a bunch of great stuffover on Uncrown right now.There's a great, great, amazing storyby Ben on Frank Shamrock.I highly recommend you checking that out
03:35:37and a whole bunch of other stuff.I'm looking at it now.A great story on Shimmer,the old school pro wrestling promotion turning 20,focusing on women's wrestling in particular,and we're just crushing it over there.I mean, it's just an unbelievable.It's really the crown jewel of the uncrowned empire.
03:35:58Very, very proud of the work over there,so go check it out over at uncrowned.com.did want to speaking of John JonesJohn Jones was on a podcastwhat is the name of this podcastit's called No Scripts podcastNo Scripts podcast you big fanHuge
03:36:14The No Scripts podcastJohn Jones was on this podcastI guess it was over the last couple weeksIt was clearly around the timethat he was in Nashvillefor the dirty boxing eventbecause he's wearing similar clothingHe talked about a few things
03:36:32and I did want to shine a light on these things.First, let's play him talking about the Dana White situationand how it was all handled, the offer from Tomand his desire to make amends.Here it is, take a listen, and then we'll react.I think my most immediate goal is to try to be on the White House card.Okay.You're talking to Dana?
03:36:52How is he feeling?You know, I'm giving Dana his space.You know, Dana has changed my life.Yes, he is.He has changed my life.He's changed my children's lives.And I'm forever grateful to him.And we had a verbal agreement that didn't go over.
03:37:07Could pause right there.Pause right there.A verbal agreement.Remember, there was some reporting by a handsome fellow.I forget his name.Name escapes me, who said on multiple occasions that John Jones gave his word to the UFCwhen they got him the 30 million that he was asking for.And then a couple of days later, he reneged.
03:37:27Actually, Chale's version of the story is actually quite accurate.He was feeling himself at the time.was getting some nice little reality show offers and he's like, you know what, I don't needthis money. I'm getting, you know, a pretty penny to do this stuff. So here he is. Dana confirmedit, if you recall, back in June when they officially moved on. And now here's John confirminghim, confirming it. And as I've said multiple times, never came out and refuted it, regardless of whathis fans or people may say about me being a quote unquote John Jones Hater, which is not the truth.I'm just telling you exactly what happened. He never refuted it. Now here he is confirming it.
03:38:00So I appreciate that.Please continue.Nothing was finalized,but I do admit guilt.Not guilt, but I was wrong.You'll make it right at the White House.The way things went down, I was wrong.And I wish that I could see him face to face
03:38:15and just apologize to himso that we can let bygones be bygonesand get back to making some major money for the sportand really entertaining these fans.He's a businessman, and there's no doubtthat you are his favorite fighter of all time.There's the memes of it.He loves you.
03:38:31It's a matter of time.When he's feeling me, I think I'm one of his favorite fighters.When he's not feeling me, probably the reason why he has a ball in it.I think that host was feeling John Jones there.I mean, golly, the glaze.Oh, wait until I see the other clips.Forget this one.I mean, D-1 glazing.
03:38:49The Aspenal portion.It's just a matter of time.The aspiral clip made me blood red mad.Okay, well, just on this one, I mean, John is fully, you know, other than saying, you know, the amount,saying it's on me, it's my bad.A little surprising, it's, it's, what, five months later,and they haven't met, they haven't talked?Like, you would think, hey, can we meet, I'll fly to Vegas, let's go out,
03:39:13I'll meet you in your office, anytime you're ready,I'll fly to any event, whatever, would suggest,I don't know if you guys feel otherwise,it would suggest Dana was pretty pissed that he gave him his wordand he backed out on the word.That's what it seems like to me,but he's continuing with this thing that he wants to be on the White House card,he wants to make it up he wants the opportunity now he doesn't want the fight to the best of our knowledge they never talked about an Alex Pereira fight they wanted him to fight Tom Aspinall and he had agreed and then he reneged and so there's no indication one would think that they would see the light and say hey Pereira versus jones makes a lot of sense Jones isn't holding up a division he doesn't have to fight anyone in particular and Pereira could just move up and give up that title we could do Yuri versus Carlos Alberg one would think that they would be interested in it the question is
03:39:59can Dana get over his disappointment,his anger towards John reneging on his word.But this was kind of the first time that Johnconfirmed that, yes, he did in fact give his wordand he did back out.Just think about the way that Dana White talks about Connorand his participation in this card,which is we're in lockstep.
03:40:20We're talking to Connor every day.It seems like there's that.And then there's the John Joneswhere it's like, don't want to talk about it.John Jones is the only one talking about it.completely one-sided.To me,John Jones feels like
03:40:32the break glassin case of emergencyoption for the UFC,right?Like if,if Connor can't do it,then you,then you get over it,
03:40:42you swallow your prideand you hit up John Jones.But until Connor McGregor's out,I feel like John's on the outs.Dana,can't hold a grudge.Yeah.Unhappy with you.
03:40:52He did a lot for John Jones,though.Like,I mean,oh my God.The support.All the shit John Jonesdid throughout his career.
03:40:59And Dana was out there, like, in terms of him as a promoter,every time that Jones let him down,he was out there trying to pick up the pieces.Like, sometimes it was absolutely ridiculous,the shit that was going down.And he was always there.And then it comes to this moment where he puts his neck on the line and says,I am guaranteeing you this fight.
03:41:16It's 110% happening.He doesn't show up.Like, it's Dana White.Of course he's going to be fucking pissed off.Like, I don't, that doesn't strike me as strange at all.You're completely right and completely accurate in everything you're saying,but let's not act like this is.charity from Dana Way, right? Like going out there and defending John all the times he has.
03:41:33It's because he was able to maximize profits on John Jones and drastically underpay him throughouthis entire career to the point that John Jones needs to take this fight. John Jones should beretired on an island somewhere actually not needing to fight because of all the money he's madefor the UFC. So I'm not giving Dana any grace. It's not from the kindness of his heart. It'sbecause it just gave him another opportunity to squeeze dollars out of John Jones. And otherlike him continuing going. Even if Jones versus Pereira does big business, Dana's the kind of guywho is going to be like, look, I did all this for you, and I went to bat for you, this and that,and you gave me my word, and I went out there and said, it's going to happen, and I didn't
03:42:15deliver because of you, and so screw you. Like, he will cut his nose despite his face in thatregard. But what if Connor can't go?Listen, you know what? Actually, Chale brought up a good point. Like, it doesn't have to be someone,like it could be. What did he say?Ilya versus Islam?Well, there you go.We were just talking about it.It actually is at a stute point that we were talking about in that, like, what if the
03:42:36American guy loses in the main event?Is that worse than just having two non-Americans in the main event?Because then you don't have to deal with like America losing at the White House and thesymbolism of that and everyone kind of having a field day with that.It's actually not, I don't know if they're going to like shy away from it, but I didn'treally think of that.In any event, so John is still campaigning.Let's see how it plays out.
03:42:55This is going to be a saga that we'll be talking about and watching for a while.He was also asked about Tom Aspinall.This was around a few days after the eye poke scene around the world.Of course, he showed up to the weigh-ins with a horse wearing an eye patch.He changed his Twitter profile pick to a duck wearing the eye patch.Having a field day with this.Well, here's what he had to say about that incident.When Tom gets hurt, he's like immediately incompatitive.
03:43:22He poked my eye and then he's like immediately.There was no like.He never tried to look.It was rag on the eye immediately.Dude, I think the silliest looking cat on national TV is just trying.He didn't try.He didn't try.Same thing with Curtis plays.
03:43:34When he hurt his knee, there was no limping.There was no trying to get up.It was just like immediately.Yep.Burn my village.I can't go on.He doesn't have the dog in him.Yeah, that killer, be killed.
03:43:45Immediately quits.Yeah, when he got tapped out with an ankle lock, there was no trying to fight his hands.There were no trying to be immediately quit.You see the pattern of it.Immediately.Yeah.And I noticed the profile pick change.And then you had someone on your horse, too, similar.
03:43:57Yeah.I'm just having fun with it.You have a phone with the iPatch?I'll have a phone with it.Yeah, it's like he had at it with me.He had a long time coming at me.So it's to keep the fans engaged.Of course.
03:44:07It's just to keep things fun.The best part about it is like what did Tom actually say about John?Like he never really played into, oh, I guess he held up like a little duck and all that stuff, the horror.But yeah, the glazing was just.He doesn't have that dog in a brow.The knee injury.He hit the air quotes for, I think it was a torn MCL, a torn minisk.miscus, ACL damage, surgery,
03:44:30year recovery, just like...Blown out.Didn't even try to limp around on...He didn't even give it the old college try.He just wouldn't even give it a try.He doesn't have that dog in him.Just doesn't have that dog in him.Just doesn't have that dog in it.
03:44:40No, the other guy said that.The other guy said he didn't have that dog.He saw the patterns.Don't forget.The thing about not trying to open the eye,wasn't Aspinall being killed for the fact that,oh, he looked, he opened his eyebecause he was trying to go on.
03:44:51Everyone keeps bringing up this thing of him saying,I can't see.Yeah, okay, that was his reaction.But he didn't tap out.He didn't do...Anyway, not to like get into this back and forth because it's completely stupid, but it's like you've never seen anyone talk so much shit about someone that he refused to fight and not just refuse to fight, but generational money.Like no one has ever been offered 30 million to the best of our knowledge, not even Connor up front.This is pre-paper viewpoints.
03:45:16And you said no.And now you've gone on this tour shitting on the guy calling him a quitter, calling saying that he doesn't have that dog in him, saying that he looks for the way out.the Curtis Blaze fight. By the way, the Curtis Blaze fight happened already. The ankle lockthat you're talking about happened already. The poke happened after you said no, but likeif there were patterns, why didn't you fight the guy? What was it about him? Did you feellike you weren't getting paid enough? Clearly not, you wanted that money. Did you feel like hewasn't on your level? Well, you were still getting paid to fight a guy who wasn't on your level.Isn't that the dream? I don't understand why he continues to do this and why no one says, well,
03:45:49then why didn't you fight him? Oh, I see a lot of people saying that, by the way.No, to his face. Oh, not to his face. The comments all say that.that. The one bit ofbail, I'll throw John Jones, who I don't agreewith in most of his talks about Tom Aspinallis he's been pretty consistent insaying the reason he didn't fight Tom Aspinall is becausehe doesn't believe Tom is on his
03:46:07level or a legacy defining fight, andAlex, and he goes out of his way to explainthat he believes Alex Pereira is.Now, do I buy that? That's a different question.The real gun was legacy defying? Come on.No, no. This was post that. No, I know, but it'sjust like none of it makes sense. None of it makes sense.I don't agree with it. I don't agree with it. I think
03:46:23Tom would have been a suitable challengerand would have been a great fight.But he's been consistent in that regardthat saying Alex Perr is the type of fighterI want to fight, and Tom Aspinel, quite frankly,isn't. But to your point, if you trulyfeel that way, 30 milto fight some guy that you don't think is going to
03:46:39do you any damage.30 million is pretty legacy to fight.And then you just go fight Alex after that.That makes a lot of sense to me financially.But, yeah, I don't agree with most.But he is pretty consistent in sayingAlex is a guy that I want to fight.Steepay is a guy that I want to fight,
03:46:55and Tom is not.I'm going to get disqualified if he comes back and fights anyway.When everyone was so hypersensitive about these eyepokes, I mean,that's going to be interesting itself.It's like this.Like genuinely.John Jones, you talk to,you interviews with guys who fought him,
03:47:12this is a massive part of their preparation,preparing for his range finding fingers.It's going to be very interesting if he comes back and fights in this day and agebecause there's a hypersensitivity since the aspirational situationabout outstretched fingersand I know he pokes.But the headline on Sundaywould be Tom quits again.
03:47:29That will be the headline on Sundaythat all the MMA fans would rush to sayis, oh, he got poked in the eye.Well, he's to blame.F that guy.But yes, you make a great pointabout John Jones and the eye pokes.He is notorious for it.
03:47:42Well,John Jones,not active at the moment.Someone who is very activeis Marab Diwali-Svili.And if you're a Marab fan,if you're backing Marab, you have to be very worried about the footage that has just come outas he is preparing for the Pirion Fight.
03:48:00Pizzi, have you seen this footage?I have not seen this footage.What the hell?Worrysome footage.Here he is going up against Lupi Godinez.And look at the ease in which she takes down Maraub.Look at that.Bang, a little chain rust.
03:48:11I mean, that is...He is wearing jeans.He is wearing jeans, though, Ariel.Yeah.I mean, we've got to think about this straight away.Did he give that up too easily?SuspiciousWas it Dalgarian-esque?
03:48:25I don't know if the money was the endThe end goal he was going forSome people were calling him after thatI saw Marab RizwalishviliWhere'd you see that? Oh yeahI just sawCan you send me the link to the tweet bro?Some people were saying
03:48:38Send me the link to the IG storyHe saidRisvolishviliWell, it's pretty good, no?I thought it was Diwasha LaviliI thought that's what I wasRizwasha LaviliDiwashalavili
03:48:48Marob Rizwasha LoviliYou're so hotYou're so high on this.Just tell us who posted it.Send us the link.People are posting it.I don't know all the fucking weirdos online posting things.Oh shit.
03:49:00Yeah.Listed check.That's exactly it.That's exactly.I don't know.I just thought it was a little worrisome.Here he is.He's a month out from a title fight and he's getting taken.
03:49:11No,dangerous stuff there.No knock.I mean, loopie sister, Canadian Olympian.We all know this.She was a great wrestler as well.But listen, a lot of people say a lot of stupid things online.A lot of people are.
03:49:21are saying stupid things, which brings up actually the last thing that I wanted to bring up.There I am Thursday night.I'm with my good friends, Mark, Dan, and Phildo.We're in Toronto.We're at Danny's Pizza Tavern.In fact, we're at Danny's next door.They made me a special pineapple, green olive pie.I posted online.
03:49:42You've all seen it and loved it.Surely it's one of the great pies I've ever had.Just the vibes are I'm in Toronto.I'm with my good friends.I haven't seen them in ages.were enjoying a nice little meal.They brought out all the different, you know, all the different dishes that they had.They were even testing out a couple on us.
03:49:58It was really lovely.And I very quickly look at my phone and all of a sudden I see a message,a just sort of rude, nasty, interrogative, just a mean message from someone named Kike Hernandez,click on the link, verified, suck it Ariel Hall.Elwani, loser, all caps, does three-time World Series champ sound better than the triple champ?And I'm like, wait a second, is this World Series winning Kika Hernandez talking smack about me?Talking shit about me, three, four days removed from getting an A on the group project, doing absolutely nothing, actually almost blowing the World Series?Ball goes over his head, Paz saves his ass.
03:50:45Well, anyways, I say, I have to reply because I'm not going to take the disrespect.And I say, congrats on getting an A on the group.project, Kike. Great read on thatClement, fly ball, bro, allcaps! And then he hitsme with the Got Me Good there. When you knowsomeone hits you with the Got Me Good, they've got noretort. They've
03:51:02got nothing for you. This guy wasabsolutely irrelevant. He made one playin Game 6. Everyone's like,I mean, he's literally hanging aroundthe Mendoza line, talking smack.All I said, all I said wasyou got your ass saved by your teammate.No shame in that. And that you
03:51:18kind of, you know, you kind of fumbled thethe Connor McGregor, the double champ does whatever he wants thing. It's been played out. The deliverywasn't great. It was a little forced. And all of a sudden, I mean, guys, the amount of hate mailthat I received from these Dodger fans, by far, by far, I mean, it's not even a question.The real estate. I had no idea in LA. Absolutely rent free. It's unbelievable. The most sensitivefan base that I've ever come across. And I have, like, I'm not a fan of a team that,is even at odds with these guys.I'm not a Giants fan.
03:51:53I'm not a D-Backs fan.I'm nothing.I called it like it is.As, by the way, as a salty, bitter fan, I said, you acted like jackasses.You were mocking plays that were controversial that should have gone your way but did.And your announcer should have, you know, sat out the parade as the MC, as the nationalbaseball voice on Fox.He should have sat it out.
03:52:14That's all I said.And you would have thought that I spit in all their faces, that I spit on their moms,that I made fun of their families and their children.I mean, it was disgusting the stuff that I was reading.It was very, very, very nasty.And, you know, it just made me proud to be a fan of a classy team,of a team that would never stoop this low,of a team that would never engage in this type of rhetoric
03:52:38with a fan.You guys are literally supposed to be celebrating a World Series victory.Another one.Back to back, three in the last six years,and you're coming after me.What did I do?So I was just, I was actually blown away, and in fact, I heard from someone who I do have respect for, who I've interviewed before, Blake Snell, and I invited Blake and KK to come on the show to hash this out, but it's been crickets ever since.Could you believe that, Pizzie?
03:53:06Crickets, I was gracious enough to invite them on my show.Give them the rub.Give them the platform.Hash this out.Here you are.Calling me a loser.You're too noble.You're too noble, mate.
03:53:17I was, you know what I mean?I was appalled.I was appalled.The comments that I received, the nasty comments, the accusations, the insults, the insinuations, nasty.I was really, really upset.Offended.I'm sorry you had to go through this month.Insulted.
03:53:38I'm sick and boy, I'd actually...Every single Dodgers blog was writing about it.Sports Illustrated writing about it.Everyone's writing about it.Could you believe that?Nah, disgusting fan base.Really disgusting.who acts this way
03:53:50type oftype of fan basethat steals another teamthey stole themfrom Brooklynin the middle of the nightunder their nosescould you believe that
03:53:58notengaging in gamblingand things like thatreally not makingcould you imaginerecyclingI heard all of usrubbing our beer
03:54:09because we're all disgustingbut he doesn't turn on us herewe're justthe group project commonis crazyisn't that this allstarted, or was it the parade thing?Was it being mad about the parade
03:54:22plusYeah, it was all one comment.You can't get an A on the project for just participating.And not liking the promo,it was a whole thing.I was watching Red Zone yesterday, and Joe...They mentioned the two?Joe Davis?
03:54:36Yeah, they said, did you guys see what...O'Wanee had to say?What's the broadcaster's name?Joe...He was calling a football game yesterday.Joe Buck?No, no, no, no.The World Series guy.
03:54:48Oh, I don't know. Joe Davis.Joe Davis. He was calling a football game, and Scott Hanson was like,ah, Joe Davis, the recently Emmy Award winning broadcast announcer.I got a big kick out of that.Yeah, no, I mean, listen, he's good, but I'm just saying Mike Breen.And then I have like some personal friends who are like, oh, yeah,I saw what you said about Joe Davis comparing him to Mike Green.Mike Breen will never get that chance anyway.
03:55:11I'm like, okay, relax, all right, relax, relax with the pot shots.I'm taking a look real quick at Kiki's World Series stats real quick here.28 at bats, two hits.I mean, that's not great.Oh, no, sorry, two runs five hits.Two runs, five hits.Excuse me.I take that back, Kiki.
03:55:32One home run, three RBI.What does S.O stand for, G.C.S.O.That'd be strikeouts.That would be strikeouts.I'm seeing a fat 15 here.If I take a quick gander at the entire lineup, I see a 10 for Teasca Hernandez,an 11 for Max Muncie, a 6 for Tommy Edmund.
03:55:55I believe he leads the team in strikeouts as far as this past World Series is concerned.A real, I mean, listen, who am I to judge?I think batting 179 is pretty good, right?Would you guys say batting?I am just glad after the vitriol that came your way,you decided to take the high road and do that.I'm proud of you.This was a moment for you.
03:56:18There's no chance that the Dodgers aren't going to see,Dodgers fan base aren't going to see thisand react again to it.No, they should be happy.So I'm looking at baseball reference.Baseball reference has something called CWPA,which as I hover over it,championship win probability added for offensive player.
03:56:34Given average teams,this is the change in probability displayed in percentage points.A change of plus minus 100%would indicate one World Series win,added, or lost.What does that even mean?Meaning this is how impactful they are to a World Series.Oh, okay.
03:56:49So what was his?Well, I'm seeing some numbers here, like Will Smith, 34%.Wow, that's high.Miguel Rojas, 13%.Shohei, 18.69%.Max Muncie 12.What is this?Minus...
03:57:04Minus 27.44% for Kiki?I mean, minus 27.44.Do you think that's good?guys?I don't think based on the metric as you've described it, that that is a good number.I'm just, you know, would that all, like, would that all back up my A on the group projectline?Would you think that would back it up?
03:57:28What I'm insinuating by A on Group project is, like, you were a part of the team, but didn'tdo anything to warrant the ring, to warrant the championship to take part in the success,like you just kind of...You were just there, yeah.You rode their coattails.Did he start every game?uh it says seven games played i do believe yes i do believe but you know sometimes you know it's likebased on the number as you've broken it down it was actually worse than that i actually
03:57:55he's actually done he's taken away from the project he almost actually blew it in fact everyonethought that they were going to um that he like got hurt when they collided and he revealed afterwards thathe was so distrapped because he screwed up and he missed the the fly ball that he was like putting hishead and it was only pahas who told him like no i actually caught it like he actually thoughtfor a minute that he had blownthe World Series for his team because he misjudgedthe fly ball. Listen, I can't do what he does.But, you know, just as someone
03:58:20who is watching, I justthought it was weird that he was talking so muchas someone who didn't contribute. That's all.What do you guys think? Anyone?I'm just, this will be good toquell what's going on here.This is good. I'm glad you, I've gladyou settled it and hashed everything. He's risen above
03:58:40it again. Yeah, just do me favor of all youall you loser Dodger Twitter accountsget the name rightcredit us tag usand when you clip it off do the entire thingnot just like a minute like last timeinclude the part about Joe Davisinclude the part about you know like
03:58:56the fly ball going over his head and all thislike include the whole thingdon't just clip off a minute and then repurpose iton all your your sad sack siteslike do the whole thing like post the whole thingbe you know be respectful to the processof crediting and sharing contentthat's all I ask
03:59:12Anyway, Frank, do we have any Super Chats?Peace and love.Yes, we do.What do we got?What do we got?First one says,Rough riders off to the Great Cup, though, to ease the bills.Well, he's referring to the Saskatchewan Rough Riders
03:59:28punching their ticket to the Great Cup for the first time in 12 years.I was watching on Saturday.It was a great win over the BC Lions.Problem is, know who they're facing?Do you know who they're playing on Sunday afternoon,late evening, early evening,6 o'clock in Winnipeg.Do you know what they're playing guys?
03:59:45Anyone know?Great Cup.112th edition, I do believe.Anyone?James Tehuno?That would be the Montreal Alouettes.Oh, no.That was the second guess.
03:59:56You guys going to partake?You're going to sprinkle?Yeah, for sure.It's a big game.Mm-hmm.Could you see?Are you falling apart in there?What else, Frankie?
04:00:08Thank you, Ariel.Your hard work.That's demonstrated right now.dedication to us fans is very appreciated Ian and Cork Ireland.Shout out to Cork. We love Cork.Rebels. Up the Rebels.Who's the Rebels?Schleader.
04:00:22The rebels. The rebels are Cork.They call themselves.Like a team over there?Yeah, they're great hurleds.Great, great football, yeah. Great sports people in general.Cork people.I was on Cork FM one time.Red FM? Yes, yes, yes.
04:00:39I was on the radio over.open on that as well yeah uh what else frankie what else um so then we have a couple of blankones okay thank you for the contribution one oh one oh one is really but this one you know699 canadian is like six cents all right you're you're feeding the fund we don't knowwhat the fund is but thank you for doing it okay we have one here actually this is a twoferokay if a aerial could please choose one of the following options a claire home money becomeCEO of the New York Knicks in 2040and wins the NBA championship in her first season
04:01:13or B, Walter and Oliverbecome joint CEOs of the bills of 2040and win the Super Bowl in their first season.Oh God. I mean, why? Why do I have to choose one?Can I just not have... Can I have bothand just be done with it?Be selfish here. Like, what's easier for you to get toClaire as Knicks CEO? I mean, that's a shorter commute for you
04:01:32than... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Claire being CEOin a male-dominated world, I think, would bepretty cool.Look at you.But she also would be like 21 at that point.Yeah, what is that?15 years from now.Yeah, 15 plus 9.
04:01:46I think she could do it.34.Could you imagine?She'd probably be the youngest CEO in pro sports.Wait, no.Oh, yeah.15 plus 9 is 24.She'd be the youngest CEO in all of pro sports.
04:01:57There you go.That's kind of a big deal.This was the right answer.Another feather in the cap.Yeah.Although the other guys would be pretty young too.They're not that much older.The reason, it's just, it's so hard.
04:02:07It's so hard to handle because now I'm thinkingthey're going to blow up the team,they're going to trade Josh.And I'm going to have to...Trade Josh?It's just, it's all so...What's going on?Can I ask one of this?
04:02:17Can I ask one question?Yeah.Why are people talking about this with, like, the bills?Are they've missed the opportunity?Josh Allen's only 29.What, like, why does it need to be now?Because there were a few years there.Okay, let's talk about it.
04:02:28There was the, okay, there was that first year.It was the 2021 season where they make it all the way to the conference championshipand lose to the chiefs.But that was the one where it was like,this is a great story, and, you know,everyone's like, all right, you'll be okay.Then 22, 13 seconds, everyone thinks that that's the window, right?The next year, you play the Bengals, and you lay an egg.
04:02:55When everyone thinks we're at home now, we're getting a second round game at home,you completely lay an egg.Josh is not himself.There's some talk that he was going through some stuff.Then you come back, you lose to the chiefs again, at home.the second time and then you come backand you lose to the Chiefs on the road in the AFC championshipgame. How many opportunities do you need?
04:03:14Like the Bengals wonand the 13th second one, which is nowthree, four years ago, I thinkare ones that are going to haunt us forever.And that's why I lot, even last year,they could have easily beaten that Chiefs team.But what I've said multiple timesis I think that they have run
04:03:34their course with this current coaching regime.We need a different look.how many times have we seen a teamreach a certain leveland just not get over that hump,make a change, and then get over the hump.They need a different look.That's it.
04:03:47I would like for them to hire Brian Dayballwho was just fired, the Giants head coach.He was our offensive coordinator,a part of those teams in 22 and 21.I would love for that.I'm understanding of all this,but you can't trade Josh.There's not a world where anybody trades Josh Allen.
04:04:03There's no talk of Josh Allen,but it just feels like he's regressed this yearand to not make a trade at the deadline for a wide receiverwhen the entire world knew that they had to do it.They need a shake-up.They said it's going to be a couple of weeks, hamstring.They got no one.They need a shake-up, but that all happens around Josh Allen.
04:04:26Josh Allen's the-allon.I will ride Josh-on.Even the mistakes that Josh made yesterday, I don't even blame him.He's got no options.He's got no targets.He reset around-Jolmust about McNairbert going.now, Ariel, is that what the headlines today?It's starting to get a little bit louder, a little bit louder,
04:04:42but really, like, the offensivecoordinator, Joe Brady had an awful game.He has no, he has no targets.He's got nothing. He's got nothing to work with.He's got James Cook. That's it.It's very frustrating. You can't lose to the freaking two and sevendolphins. You just can't. And I don't buy thisPatriots thing. I just don't. I'm sorry.
04:05:00As in you don't buy them as a contender?We're better than them. Yeah, I agree. We're freaking betterthan these guys.I don't know if you're better, but I don't think the Patriots areare as good as their record.Colts are fine.Falcons should have beaten them yesterday.Thank you very much.
04:05:14Connor.You guys should have won that game.What was that?Yeah, I mean, we do it every week.You let Jonathan Taylor just like waltz all over the place.Yeah, I mean, what do you want me to do?You know?Suit the fuck up.
04:05:25You want to fly to Berlin?No, suit up, Connor.And teach him a lesson.Come on.I thought you were going to fly to Berlin.That wasn't the team we played two weeks ago.What happened to that team?You should have caught the team when we got embarrassed by the dolphins
04:05:35or embarrassed by the Panthers.Or when we hang tough with the Colts and the PatriotsWe lost toThe Colts in overtime and the Patriots by a missed extra pointI mean it's Jekyll and HydeWe're assSame old shit every yearEight games in we're out of the playoff hunt
04:05:50This is what they mean by a window PizziFalcons had a window in like 2016 to 2018And it's been shut ever sinceNo playoffs in seven yearsThen people are likeYou don't sit in front of your TV for four hoursSunday after Sunday watching your shit franchiseNo I don't I don't
04:06:07actually. Who is your franchisePeter? Browns? Well,I'm on bills this year. We both bet the bills this yearso I'm on. Shout out to him. Yeah.I've also got a little sprinkle onATL. That's not going on.Andyeah, I just pick a different
04:06:23team every year. I just love it, man.It's fucking class. I love it. I love watching the Falconsbut it's because of the chaosof course. Yeah.What else, Frank? What else? I oftenrewatch fights for nostalgiabut struggle to find the corresponding MMA hour episode,i.e. Rick reacting to Connor Aldo as he wasn't completely sold prior.
04:06:43We'd love to revisit your real-time takes.Yeah, I've had a couple of people semi-clipped.I'm like, wow, why are you watching a July 2015 episode of the show?But then that means that they are available for this person to find.Oh, yeah, some of them.But there was that period there where we streamed the show on Bright Cove.and those have just disappearedI was very upset when they did that
04:07:08for a brief periodwas Voxyeah it was Voxthey said that they wanted to do them on BridecoveI was like whatwhy are we doing thisand so those have kind of disappearedand then some of our videos
04:07:20like the Connor Walkin Talkpremiered on Brightcove and I never understoodI was like the world is on YouTubeyou only grow your audience if you're on YouTubeand so we actually later onlike maybe two years lateruploaded the Dublinwalk and talk. It was very strange. It was very, very strange. In any event, yeah, if people want to do
04:07:40that, thank you. I appreciate it. What else, Frankie? What else? And lastly, asking for bonuses isabsurd. Telling your story and asking for a quick turnaround is key. I'd never ask for a bonus. I'dask for OT instead. Shout out, Frank. Yeah. Is he saying shout out Frank because that's something youwould do? I'm not above asking for a bonus. Yeah. Don't we know it?I told you that in confidence.It was right there.It was right there.It was like.
04:08:12Frank asked for a bonus.And because he asked,you were like,no,fuck off.Just like the UFC does.I'd never ask for a bonus.I'd ask for OT instead.
04:08:20That is weird as well.Because you actually,like the bonus.Work more.Yeah,the bonus is just something given the OTF.I grind for my pay.There's a whole head on.
04:08:29I'm going to keep the show going for another hour,okay?There's a whole subreddit where they just show people on LinkedIn.like say these absurd things likeI didn't go to my brother's funeralbecause there was a quarter meeting that wehad to do and I'm all about the clientit's like what do you do?
04:08:44Yeah, that's weird.I think I belong on that forum if I'm on it.Yeah. I never get sickthough I come to the office. I think horriblysick. Never been sickso that can't happen. I don't tell anyoneabout it. If you know, it's called walking pneumonia?Yeah. That was a thing. You see the way my
04:08:58immune system works, the way it's setup, there's a thing.Yeah, never been sick. Never experiencedthat wonder what it's like guys one last thing very quickly moses atama people very excited abouthim he is going to return january 24th that was announced this morning on the zone againstgermane franklin a bit of a surprise going from white to franklin especially when his name wasmentioned with some other top dogs i'm happy it's not joseph parker but there you have it themagnificent seven some other good names on that card as well that's january 24th co-op live
04:09:32in manchester speaking ofof young studs, we'll have one in studio tomorrow, the pride of Georgia, Malcolm Wellmaker,not the country, the state. Joining us in studio tomorrow, very much excited about that conversation.What a stud he is, and he's fighting on that MSG card this Saturday.The aforementioned Chris Taco Padilla going to join us as well.And Mohamed Mukayev, who had a massive win over the weekend, he's going to join us too.So looking forward to those chats, in addition to everything else.that we shall be discussing.
04:10:06But for now,it's time to go.Pride of Georgia.1.35er.The machine.Malcolm Wormand.Yeah.Which part of Georgia again?
04:10:21Augusta.Oh, yeah. Augusta.You don't really hear about a lot of people.Who's a famous athlete from Augusta, Georgia?To me, Augusta's claim...Patrick Reed. Who's that?He's a golfer who won the Masters?Oh, yeah.
04:10:34Wait, he's from Augusta and he won the Masters?He played at Augusta State.Wow, I didn't even know that was a thing.Yeah, before going to Georgia.Wow, that's like a real home game for him, right?Yeah, there ain't much in Augusta, man.There's Augusta National.Oh, oh, oh, oh.
04:10:48Hershey Walker.Oh, there you go.You know this?Makes sense.I'm learning it now.Olympic gold medal winning hurdler Forest Towns.Shout out of the forest, bro.NFL cornerback Carlos, not to be confused with former Toronto Raptor,
04:11:03Carlos Rogers? No, one on the same. Vaughn Taylor and retired NFL head coach Ken Wisenhunt.I don't see this gentleman that you're talking about.The Ken Wisenhunt. Yeah. And by the way, where's Malcolm Wellmaker on this list? I feel like hedeserves to be on this list. Here's a here's, oh no, this is from Illinois.S.I. did a thing about the top. Okay, do you know who the number one athlete to hail from Georgiais, according toSI, in 1997?In 1997?
04:11:39Like, they came outwith this list in 97.Ty Cobb fromRoyston, Georgia.Legend.What a guy.Herschel Walker, number two.Number three, Bobby Jones.
04:11:47Number four, Fran Tarkington.Number five, Walt Clyde Frazier.Shout out!Thank you very much toLeon Edwards' sonand Josh Hawket.And Clarissa Shields.Thanks to them.
04:11:56Thanks to them.Thanks to you.Back tomorrow.See, time.This is a piece.
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