The Ariel Helwani Show - Chael Sonnen, Quillan Salkilld, Frank Warren, massive weekend recap, news and notes

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

Ariel Helwani kicks off the show with one of Saturday’s big winners, UFC lightweight prospect Quillan Salkilld, discussing his massive knockout of Beneil Dariush, his growing fan base and social media following, his mustache, his callout of Mateusz Gamrot, and more (05:01). Old friend Chael Sonnen is back to chat with Ariel about the UFC’s welterweight title picture, a potential fight between Conor McGregor and Max Holloway, his beef with Jorge Masvidal, the escalating trash talk between Sean Strickland and Khamzat Chimaev, and more (47:36). Queensberry Promotions’ Frank Warren returns to talk all things boxing, including David Benavidez’s big win, Fabio Wardley’s title defense against Daniel Dubois, Moses Itauma’s next fight moving from July to August, his relationship with Turki Alalshikh, Zuffa Boxing’s first few shows, the Ali Revival Act passing through Congress, talks of Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua on Netflix, and more (1:42:13). Ariel is joined by The Boys in the Back and Petesy Carroll to recap a busy combat sports weekend, touching on the continued back-and-forth between Strickland and Chimaev, the latest White House card updates, Tom Aspinall’s road back to the cage, and more (2:23:30). Ariel closes the show with your Super Chats (3:43:57).

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Air... Monday, May 4th, 26. Hello again, everyone. Hi, Sherr, hope you're doing well. Hope you had a lovely weekend. It's a beautiful spring day in New York City. Some of those people that enjoy that movie are excited today because it's like a holiday for them. May the fourth be with you. Frank showed up wearing the thing and the... I don't get it. I don't get it. What's going on? I don't get it.

I don't know. Maybe PT can explain it to us a little bit later. But they say, may the fourth be with you? What I know is I'm a very happy man on this Monday afternoon. There's a lot going on at Uncrowned HQ, but it was a rare Monday morning match, at least here on the East Coast for our Nottingham Forest, spanking Chelsea at Stanford Bridge 3 to 1, maybe securing our spot for next year. We are Premier League.

Today we are Premier League. Up 1-0 going into the second leg of Europa on Thursday. The semis. I mean, the vibes are incredible. Since we last spoke, of course, there was a basketball game that transpired Thursday evening in Atlanta. We don't need to get too far deep into that. We're trying to keep it classy.

We're trying to take the high road here. So all I'll say is we have punched our ticket to the second round. Game one tonight at the Garden, Philly, not Boston? Where's that 24-inch guy who always sends us a DM? about Boston sports. I mean, Boston sports, in absolute shambles, as we speak. Bruins, out, Celtics, out. Patriots, shambles, shambolic, as they say.

Red Sox, I even talk about the Red Sox. Oh, my God, the Red Sox are a joke. It's great. It's a great time to be alive. We had a fantastic weekend of combat sports. Inouin Nakatani in Japan, UFC Perth, Benavitas on Saturday night. Saturday was great.

PFL Sue Falls. We're going to do a deep dive into PFL Sue Falls today. I think that we didn't do enough to build it up over the last few days. So we're going to give it a lot of attention. But no, that card really flew under the radar. And probably, I mean, rightfully so. It just feels like they're playing out the string on ESPN. I'm really curious to see what they come up with as far as next year's deal is concerned.

But it doesn't feel like there's a ton of momentum. Over on the worldwide leader in sports on today's program. Well, we've got a lot to get to today. There's a lot of news and notes. I love a Monday show because we bring you up to speed on everything, everything that's transpired of note in the world of combat sports. We will get to all of that, primarily third hour, because we have a lot to get to in the first two hours.

In a matter of moments, we're going to be joined by Quillensal killed, who looked amazing on Saturday night in Perth, Saturday morning here on the east coast of the United States. Another massive win for him, this time against Benile Daryush. another one in the first round. Four of his five wins in the UFC have come in the first round. A superstar. This guy is a superstar in the making.

I mean, he called out Mateus Gamrod, who I think is like six or seventh at 155. He's going to crack the top 15. He should be in the top 10. He's going to be someone that we're going to be talking about for quite some time. And he's going to join us. It's about 103 a.m. over in Perth. He's going to join us in a couple of minutes off the top, wanted to get him in because he's being nice enough. And I was saying this to the guys in the back.

we only have probably like a few months left of Quillam being nice enough to stay up this late to join us because very soon he's going to be a superstar. They'll strap the rocket ship on him. He's going to be, you know, too busy for little things like this. But we do appreciate him joining us on this late Monday evening, early Tuesday morning over in Perth. After that, we're going to be joined by the great Chal Sunnan. Chil P is going to join us. He's been involved in The War of Words with Jorge Mazzved. Talk to him about Sean Strickland.

Talk to him about 328. Of course, 328 is this weekend. So stay tuned for that. And that will be at 1045 Pacific 145 Eastern. And then Frank Warren's going to join us. There's a big boxing heavyweight tilt going down this weekend. Over in London, Daniel Dubois against Fabio Wardley, fantastic heavyweight affair.

He's going to join us to talk about that. And of course, on Friday, a reminder, limited, limited tickets left. We'll talk more about this. But we have our live show at City Winery. already confirmed and announced, Derek Lewis, Kevin Holland, 830 p.m., doors open at 8, live and exclusive for everyone in attendance, limited tickets available. We'll have the link pinned to our chat in the YouTube, so check that out. It's going to be a great time. The whole team is working

over time, and I appreciate them very much, and then we're off to L'A, and you know the drill what's going on over there. But first, let's not waste any time. Let's talk to the rising superstar who had another massive win on Saturday night in Perth. The Big Q, Mr. Quillen Salkild, who is kind of to join us very, very, very late over there in Perth. Are you awake? Are you okay? Quillan, thank you so much. Today. Yes, I'm awake. Yeah, it's a pleasant evening. Thanks for having me on again. It's a pleasure, as always, my friend, and my friend, and I should say I always do appreciate when, especially, you know, the Aussies and the New Zealanders stay up late. Or,

up early for us, so thank you so much. I don't take it for granted. Congratulations on the win, my friend. This one in Perth, this one in prime time, this one against a big name. Would you say, at least as for now, biggest moment of your career so far? 100%. That walkout was some special. The crowd just erupted. And yeah, it was such a special moment for me. Being in that arena, I've been wanting to do that for, you know, since the beginning of my career and, you know, being able to do that and get a performance such as that, it was a, yeah, it was a, yeah, a special, special moment for me in my life. How far do you live from that arena? Literally like 10 minutes.

Wow, wow, that is wild. 10 minutes. So I'd imagine a place that you've driven past, dreamed about, visualized yourself competing in. Many times, many times, yes. Did you have many friends and family in attendance? Yeah, my whole family was there, all my friends. Yeah, we had the, yeah, the whole Southfield crew was there.

You're a very cool customer and that's what we appreciate about you, but were you nervous fighting on essentially home turf in front of your family and friends near a place that you grew up? Yeah, of course. I don't know, the whole week didn't really feel like five weeks since I was like at home, like without the travel, it felt pretty casual to me. I only really felt the nerves on, like on fight day and actually at the arena where I realized, oh, shit, we're actually going to do this like here, like at home.

So, yeah, but I enjoy the moment walking out. And when the crowd is there, I feed off the energy. So when the crowd's pumped up, I'm pumped up. And, yeah, then it's just business as usual. No matter where we fight, it all feels the same. Ozzie are used to watching the UFC on Sunday morning. Aussie fighters are used to fighting in Australia on Sunday morning? What was it like fighting on a Saturday night?

Any different? Was the rituals, the things, the schedule, did that throw you off at all? Nah, it was all the same. It was better. Like Saturday night, that's when you met the fight. So, yeah, it was cool. It gives everyone a break. Because I know everyone who watches the fights on a Sunday morning,

usually just pulls an old-nighter and then rocks up to the venue 6.8. on the Sunday morning and then, you know, continues on. But now they got to, you know, start during the day and then finish big on the Saturday night. Is that really what they do? I thought maybe go to bed early, 10 o'clock, wake up, no, they pull it all night or? No, they're just like just doing all night and start drinking Saturday night and then just continue all the way through to Sunday. Golly.

What about that, I don't know what you guys call it, that train of cups? What is that? Is that like a thing that you do over there? unbelievable. Yeah, the big, the snake. The snake, yes. I missed it. I didn't even, because I was obviously in the back, warming up or rocking up to the venue.

I actually, I missed it. So, yeah, I only got to see that happened afterwards. But yeah, that's what happens when it's a prime time event here in Australia. I love that. Speaking of, you know, celebrations, the smoker one that you did, what does that one signify. I mean, obviously it signifies something specific, but is there a greater significance? Yeah, that's just, means like I smoked my opponent pretty much. Like, yeah, I think that's fitting for that. I was going to save the one and done for my debut because that was, it was just like,

like a fitting celebration for the performance, but I know in the moment I was like, fuck it, I'll do it again. I guess that fits as well. And people like it. People always telling me to do it so I'm just going to, I might have to continue on. When the performance is worthy of that, I think I'll have to keep whipping it out. I agree. I think it's very unique. It's very fun. People love that. I would stick with it. And by the way, happy you stuck with the stash, my friend. I know you're getting it from, it's bad. It's just such, it's so good. It's just perfect for you. I know. It's, it's, I did accidentally shave it. I know. Months ago. I did. It was an accident. I was devastated. I, we,

We did see this. Oh, my God. What's this? We were wondering, there's a term called looks maxing. I was wondering, is that what you're doing with the stash? Because I'm not trying to. Oh, my God, that was awful. Can we see that?

I didn't get a good glimpse. Which one? Which one? What years? I don't know which one's worth. I think the scraggling beards worse, to be fair. What years? I was like, I was like, this was like peak weight cut for me as well.

So I'm all drawn out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But, yes. I look way better with the mo. That scraggly beard was horrible, though. Oh, my God. Glad that's gone.

Glad I went past that phase. Clean-shaven wasn't too bad, but the mustache, that's where it's at. That's peak. Yeah. You know, the scraggly beard one, the one on the left, how long ago was that? 2019. Okay. Do you think your beard would look different now, or is that just the way your beard looks if you grew it out?

Maybe. I've not tried. Okay. I've not tried. But yeah, it's because I fear it will look like that. And I'll live in denial thinking that I can grow a full solid beard now. So, yeah, I'll probably won't grow it ever just so I can say to myself that it's going to be full. I'm not sure if you're spoken for or not, but I would imagine the ladies in your life prefer this look over that look, yeah?

They like the mustache. They're fans. There's some people who don't like the mustache. I don't know what's wrong with these people. I feel like if you got it like that, it's a perfect look. But not everyone can do it. It is hit or miss. I think people either absolutely love it or hate it.

It's like no in between. So, yeah. By the way, kudos to you. We saw you in a skit that the UFC did when you were at the HQ. That was very fun. How was that? My acting skills. That's my acting debut.

I reckon I did. Yeah, that was fun. Was that your idea or they came to you with that? Had that come about. They came to me with that, and I was kind of nervous for it. I've never done a skill like that before, but I think it worked out pretty well. It was pretty funny. I think you smashed it.

Yeah, yeah, I was proud. Proud of my performance. I think, yeah, it was quite hilarious. This is good because we lament a lot on this show that everything kind of feels the same. Everything is uniform. So characters like you who are sticking out, who are rising above, who are doing a great job of being unique, are a welcome addition. to our lives. That's why we're also very excited about you. Yes, I feel, yeah, very happy. I'm glad I get to be that guy. I reckon that's cool.

By the way, what about that T-shirt? I saw you got a T-shirt with full violence, and I couldn't quite make out the back. What does it say underneath there? What is it, what does it say underneath there? What is we were talking? It is the latest and the greatest Quill and Sal Qielan Salky would mean. Yes. Come out of nowhere. It was very random and it's kicked off. People were yelling it out at the press conference, yes. They were saying that about you at the press conference?

Yeah, they were yelling it out. I was trying to answer questions from the media, and they were yelling it out, and I was distracted. I didn't know what I was saying. And I even yelling out when Benil was trying to answer questions too. So I think that would have come to him as a bit of a surprise. Well, yeah, that's, yeah, that is the latest meme. Is it because you sort of resemble a 70s adult film star?

I think so. I think so. I had to do some detective work and figure out why is this a thing. And yeah, that was the conclusion I come up with was because of that. It's the porn stash. Could be worse things that you could be compared to, right? Yeah, I like this one. Yeah, why not?

This one's a good one. No, why not? Speaking of Benile, I'm sure you noticed throughout the week, his eyes seemed pretty banked up. I think it was his left or was it right? I can't remember now. But one of them was like almost swollen shut. Yeah, I don't know what that was.

I'd people telling me and I didn't look too bad in person. Okay. I think teased up. It looked like, I don't even know, just like a bit of a swollen eye or something. But yeah, I have no I had no clue what that was.

I think on Fight Night, it was all seemed to be all good. I was just wondering if you saw that and it gave you just a little bit more of a boost. It doesn't seem to make you you lack confidence in any way, shape or form, but you're like, oh man, I mean, he's walking into this fight. It didn't, it didn't look like too serious. It just looked like, yeah, I don't even know. He had like some gunk in his eyes. I mean, you got, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I didn't, yeah, it didn't look like it was going to be like a serious thing where it's going to really like, I guess, like, affect him or anything. But I, yeah, I seen throughout the week, it got like better and better. And I think on like,

when we're, like, facing off. I think I noticed that it was like, it looked, like, pretty fine or, like, back to normal. Were you expecting a quick one? I don't know what to expect. I think everyone was expecting that of me. And I was like, shit, I was just, I felt the pressure. I was like, you know, make, prove everyone right. Because everyone was expecting me to starch him out in the first.

And then, you know, leading into that, trying to, like, live up to that. Because, you know, it's easier said than done doing that. I was telling people that I was going to do it. But, yeah. In my mind, I was like, this could be a hell of a hard fight. Because I knew he was going to come forward and start grappling. And I thought, you know, a few exchanges later, I think we're both going to get very, very tired because grappling is not too kind on the gas tank.

So I was thinking it was either ended up like that where I get him in the first round or it was going to be like a three-round, kind of like a grappling slug fest. Well, you nailed it. It was fantastic. It was impressive. But dare I say, even more impressive. because I was watching a clip of you walking back and the fans were celebrating with you

and you were celebrating with the fans and I'm always, you know, I'll admit, I'm a bit of a germophobe, but I'm always a little bit squeamish when the fans hand the fighter a beer and the fighter then chugs the beer. And so I was waiting for it here. Like I knew it was coming, I knew it was coming.

But as you can see right here, in a matter of seconds, you will be handed a beer. You do take a sip, but then spit it out right away. You can't be doing that. You can't take it. Because the security knocked it out of my hand, and then we got told that don't do that

because you don't know what the fuck they were going to put, like, come's going to drink. And then I was like, oh, yeah, he could have fucking put something in it. And I thought, fuck, I could spit out just in case. Plus, it was like cider or something. It wasn't even a beer. Oh, okay. Oh, wait, so you would have chugged it. Yeah, I would have, yeah.

I trust people because I don't know, probably that's like stupidity of me. But I thought I might make a smart call here and spit it out. just in case and I'll get mine. But I made up for it. I had about 100,000 fucking beers bought for me anyway after the fight. So, yeah, made up for that. Holy. Where was that?

Where did you celebrate? Out and about. Was it a great scene? You're in your home, right? It was good, yeah. We went out and had all, pretty much my whole family and friends were out. And then, yeah, as soon as I walked into the pub, everyone's handing out drinks for me to have

and I didn't want to say no to anyone so I just just started chugging them and then before you knew it I was fucking stumbling back home I planned a big night but it didn't take me long to get to get pretty plastered I was out the game pretty soon

I was pretty much alive after the weight cut I can't handle the drinks they get to me pretty quick and yeah, I need to build up my tolerance again. Yeah, it wasn't a proud performance that one. Nah. The fight was good, but the performance afterwards was quite lackluster. Some work to be done.

Do you stop drinking throughout camp? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I stopped drinking throughout camp. Is that tough? Respect the game. I respect the game, so I've got to ease up on that. Is that hard for you? No, no, no, no.

Okay. I can stop. and I can start whenever, yeah. I don't really get, like, addicted to, like, stuff like that. Like, I can do, like, a bender and drink every day for, like, a week, two weeks, whatever, when it's, like, the time, holiday time. And then I can just, like, stop and I'll be, yeah, totally fine. What's a bendo?

Like, how many are we talking on a bendo? A bendo. Oh, like a bendo where you're just, like, partying, like, days and days in a row. Golly. Like, how many would you consume in a stretch like that? Fuck. I don't know. It depends. If it's straight, if it's like straight post-fight and I'm a lightweight, I think after, after like 10, I'm done.

I'm throwing up. But I think after a bit of practice, I can get up between 20 to 30. Golly. Get to that before I'm done, before I'm on the floor. Wow. What are you drinking there? Foster's? What do you got?

I like the rum and Coke. That is a drink of choice. That's not beer, though. Bundy rum. Hmm? I was thinking beer. I thought you were talking about beer. Beer, yeah, beer probably gets to me quicker.

I can do, my drink of choice is Bundy Rum and Coke. That is a, wow. You're doing 20-30 of those in a stretch? I can do, I don't know, I think so, because I've had some nights where I've had two drinks of my hands because everyone's buying me something. and for the whole night I'm this I'm this yeah I don't know I don't even know I'll lose count but that's just my estimate love it that is tremendous

after the fight you did call up Matey's Gamera I'd love that call out shooting for the stars so to speak he did respond which I'm sure you you've seen this is the tweet just tell me where at so it sounds like he's in yeah should be done I want to yeah let's get that get that sorted I've always I've always thought

that'd be such a yeah like a fun fight to have And now I'm at the point where I think that's a very, you know, that's a good next step. He's ranked number seven. Yeah, that's a cool, cool fight. Any particular reason why him, other than just thinking it would be fun? I think it was just in my mind because I was watching his fight with Darius in the lead-up for the Benil fight. And then he just had a good win recently.

So I think it was just like fresh in my mind and just like where he is in the rankings as well. I think it's just like a good like a next next step towards like getting into like the top 10 then the top five and and yeah yada yada. So I think it's just like a good realistic next next next little step in stone. Think they'll oblige? You think they'll be into it at the UFC? I think so. Yeah, I don't see why not.

But yeah, we'll see what happens. See what they give. I do like that idea, but I'll be honest. There's another idea I like even better than that one. There's another option. I was hoping to present it to you. I'd like to see a rematch between you and Pablo Torialba. Come on.

What is up with this guy? Pablo. One win. He's one and oh. He's one and oh. He stays retired. How does he only have one fight and it's a win against you in the beginning of your career? How is this possible?

That bastard. That bastard. Do you know where this guy is, Pabloito? Yeah, he just, he just, he just, co-te-old. at the gym, scrappy MMA. He's just down the road. You know, you see him. I've seen him out and about.

Yeah, I've seen him. Yeah, he just coached it. He's just doing his thing. He's chill. So he got one fight, one win, and he's just sitting on that win. He's resting on his laurels. And he's dipped. He's aged very well.

Really? Wow. That's crazy. It's so funny. That's so funny. I worked out like that. He does, yeah. one fight it just beat me and then just like yep i'm out do you think that he's rooting for you to

keep on winning to become a champion so he could say i have the one yeah yeah yeah i think yeah going my whole career undefeated it's just him he's my one blemish on my record i believe the kids they call that aura farming i think he's aura farming off you he just aura farmed yeah to the max golly yeah just for one fight he knew and yeah just beat me and then fucking dipped into the sunset. Fucking hell. When you see him, do you talk to him or do you like kind of

secretly hate him? No, I'm salty still. No forgiveness. He ruined my squeaky clean record. What happened in that fight? I was a chance to become undefeated. I lost my amateur debut.

I lost my Muay debut and I was like, okay, it's my one opportunity. He'd become undefeated. And then he fucked that up for me as well. Off the jump. So I can't even, I can't even be undefeated at anything.

think. What the fuck? I start off everything 0-1-1. Is that fight still out there? Like, can you find it? No, no. There's no point looking for it. Yeah. No, it's deleted. From the face of the planet, yeah, he can't find it. Do you have any idea why

he stopped after that one? I feel like it's a compliment to you, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't know, actually. Yeah, to be honest, I think he's just I know, he's got a kid, and I think he's just happy to his coaching, just training, and yeah yeah i don't know i've never like had a proper interaction with him after that after that

fire okay okay wow um sorry to bring it up but i was just like i feel like his lore is just continuing to grow like who is this guy you know ablo law pablo law yes unreal um by the way also unreal the main event what would you make of that were you surprised that it played out like that yeah like it was yeah it was it was tough to watch like yeah yeah see knowing no one no on Jack, yeah, it was a, yeah, great performance by, by Carlos. He did look unreal. Yeah, it would have been, it would have been cool to see all the, all the Perth lads get it, you know, get it done with a clean suite.

But, yeah, good, good stuff with Carlos. Yeah, he looked real fucking good in there that night. Sort of like ended the night on a bit of a sour note for the locals, right? Yeah, a little bit, but that's the game, isn't it? it. Yeah. These things do happen in MMA. Before the fight, I saw a bit of like an impromptu photo shoot or something like that where you were outside of a

7-11 and I liked it. There was something very casual about it. What's going on here? And the UFC posted this or someone posted this or maybe they reposted and you posted it. Yeah, well, I figured out social media where if you want to get likes, for me,

I just got to post some random shit and that's where it gets the most likes. if I post fight-related stuff, I get like barely anything. Well, in comparison. I was posting stuff all fight week. I'm getting 10K likes. Yeah, like, yeah, good.

I post that shit. I'm at 7-Eleven. That's it. Guys, I'm at 7-Eleven. Bang, get like 50, 60K likes. Wow. Really? My most popular post is a carousel of me exhaling a cigar,

me holding up McDonald's and a seagull. And I said I'm at Maccas and it's got 120k likes. Just like, you figured it out. Stick with that. That's it. Post some random shit and you get heaps of likes. Yeah, I'm at Maccas guys. Bang, 120K likes.

Damn. Guys, a professional photo shoot of my fight-related stuff of my career. No one gives a fuck. What do you think that says about society? I think it's just cooler to do random shit, to be honest. So I want to do that. I want to figure something else out random, and that's going to be my next viral post. By the way, we just checked 96,000 likes on the 7-Eleven post.

Yeah? Oh, shit. How yeah, let's go 7-Eleven. Do you have a deal with them or something? No, to shout out 7-Eleven, though. It's a good spot. It's a good spot. It's a good hangout spot.

Especially, yeah, especially in the parking lot there. Do they sell Stay Wicked? there. Come on. Not yet. Let's bring it together. This is you, right? Stay wicked.

Tell us about this. This is it. Stay wicked. Yeah. Yeah, we're working on some big things. So yeah, we're branching out. We sell just online at the moment and then, yeah, in a few local spots right where, like right near where my gym is and then yeah, we're branching out where we're getting this thing out there.

So yeah, stay wicked. This is not a spot. sponsor. You're like you're a, uh, uh, owner. Co partner, yeah. Amazing. How did you get involved in this? Uh, well, the, I'm real good friends with, uh, co partners with this. And it's just been an idea we've been flown around for, for like the last, yeah, couple of years. So right next to the gym, there's a cafe and a tat shop that we've become real good

friends with the owners. And this is just, yeah, like another business idea that we've been kind of working with over the last year. Like, year or two. It's brilliant. That one flavor on the right, what is that? Coconut coffee? Yeah, coffee flavored of coconut water.

It is insane. Yo, that is right up my alley. This is unbelievable. Can we get this here in the States? It's fucking good. Stay wicked if you drink it. Yeah. Hell yeah.

But can I order it here? Not at the moment. What? It's just the local thing? Some loops to jump through before getting it, you know, international. So yeah, but yeah, we're working on that. Brilliant.

Love that. A man of many talents. So good luck with that. And please let us know when you can get it in the States. I want to try that coconut coffee. That's tremendous. How often do you want to fight this year? How many more you want to get in?

One or two more. Okay. I think three is a good number to aim for. But the way the last couple of fights have gone, I haven't taken really like any damage. Like I'm injury-free right now post-flight, so I can get straight back into work. So, yeah, one to two more will be really good.

Where do you think you end up in the rankings tomorrow? Well, I would like to have taken Darius's spot with 12, but really, yeah, between, yeah, 15 to 12, that's a good point for me. As long as there's a number next to my name, I am a happy chappy. You did say before the fight I saw that you haven't fought an 80s. Asian fighter yet, a South American or an African-American fellow. So Mateus doesn't, he doesn't check off any of those boxes. Yeah, with the whole minority hunter thick and freaking meme that's going on. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, no Polish, I guess that counts. Sort of, yeah, I guess. They'll make it count. The internet will make it count. If there's one thing you encounter them to do, they'll make it something. They love to meme you the internet, huh? They like to meme you. They do, yeah.

I like to be memed. Okay, all right. Quite funny, yes. I enjoy it. As long as they're good memes, I'm on the good side of the memes. Yes. I'm happy with that. I'm happy with that.

I really don't want to be on the bad side of the meme. That's actually my biggest fear. So, yeah, hopefully the internet stays kind. Did you get mustache mugged yesterday? I did. Yeah, what the hell? There's some random guy. Yeah, this guy just comes up, says good-day, and I'm like, look at this guy, he just

flexing that beautiful mustache all around my friends and family, you know. And there's this right, right in front of me, just mogs me to death with that mo. Cheeky bastard. You know this guy? No. You just saw him on the street. He just saw me. And just comes over and just flexes on me, whips that thing out right there on the street.

Do you think he knew you? Yeah, he did. Okay. Yeah. He knew off me, yeah. His was nice. His like curled up a little bit there. Yeah, yeah, lots of, yeah, look at that.

I mean, that is tremendous. Yeah, it's tremendous. It's the shape. We're thickness for thickness just as good, but he just got the shape on it. Yeah. I look pretty sloshed there. I was pretty out of that way. That's funny as

Get into like putting the beeswax and all that stuff in yours or you're not into all that? No, I don't, I don't even touch it. Okay. I just leave it as he is. I like the look just like standard is the thick, thick stash. By the way, you, you an AFL fan? Yeah, not as much anymore, but I used to be, I used to live and breathe it.

But yeah, ever since getting to MMA, I just kind of like lost kind of interest. I'll watch it if it's on TV and, you know, then it will bring back, you know, memories and I'll kind of like miss it. But, yeah, as of recently, I'm not being like hell, hell into it. Yeah, that's just like sports in general, other than MMA, like I'm just not into much, like, money sports. The reason I ask is because our team got recruited by the Sydney Swans. Yeah? Yeah, so they want us to, well, I guess the members of the team have already signed up. I'm an Adelaide Crows guy, but they went with the swans.

Oh, okay. Is that the AFL? Yeah, that's the AFL, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're recruiting us. They're trying to, like, buy our fandom. What? What the fuck. Is that weird?

Yeah, this is, I don't know. It's a surprise, yeah. Why, you don't think we're, like, you don't think we're purchased fandom worthy? you're going I'm confused here at the moment I don't know what the fuck you're saying they've come out and said we want your fandom they've sent us like gifts and stuff jerseys and all this guys we have any of the stuff to show them look look they're the swans there it is let's go

I'm an eagle supporter so okay rivalry between between Eagles and Sydney back in 0506 okay that's why you're rattled here yeah that's why I'm rattled Never forgive No five grand final

Okay, okay And what happened there? Did the swans win? Swan's won by like a point. Golly. Where the Eagles from? Oh, we got her back in 06. Okay, okay, look at you.

We got her back. Yeah. Eagles play where? Yeah. What was that, sorry? Where do the Eagles play? Eagles are Perth team. Okay, of course.

Of course. I just want to make sure you knew. Yeah, yeah. And how are the crows doing? I don't even know. Yeah, I heard they're... I didn't even know what's gone. I don't even know who's playing good at the moment or anything.

I'll just watch it if it's on TV. Got you. I'm following close to you. Over the last couple of years, I haven't followed too closely. You're focused. You're focused on the fighting. You're focused on your career. You don't have time with this.

Yes. Yes. Yeah, it's not interested. Even at MMA, I'll just watch it when it's on, but I don't really watch it outside. I don't really even watch sports in general much anymore. I just like to do it. Yeah. I get you.

I get you. Well, there's a lot to be excited about. There's a lot to be thankful and grateful for. You got the 100K bonus as well? Yeah, another one. Another one. But this is the first one that's 100, right? Because it's your first fight this year.

Second one. Oh, you did fight? Oh, golly. Yes. Man, you've been active, huh? Crazy. Yeah. You're stashing those away?

Investing? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I swear, yeah. What does that mean? Yeah, it's been stashed away. Okay, okay, very, stashed, stashed. Well, this is amazing. Congratulations, well done.

Thank you for staying up late. Did you stay up late or did you wake up early? Yeah, I've stayed up late. Okay, how'd you passed the time? I don't feel late because the last couple nights have been late once. Okay. This is like my normal schedule, I guess, at this point. That was actually my pitch to your manager.

I was like, he's probably out at this time. Yeah, I slept in. I slept in real late. I had a big friggin nap as well in the afternoon. So I'm feeling right as rain. All right, perfect. Well, I have a guilty conscience, so I never want to disturb. But we appreciate you very much.

Congratulations on another great win, another great performance. It's really fun watching you climb that ladder. Hopefully you get that nice ranking spot tomorrow. You get the Mateu's fight. And by the end of this year, man, you're right in the mix, if you ask me. It's an amazing thing to watch. So well done, keep it up, and hopefully we'll get a chance to talk to you soon again. Thanks, Ariel.

Thanks having me on again. All the best. There he is. Quill and Sal Killed, who's on some kind of role as of late. 12 in a row he's won, 5 and 0 in the UFC in just 15 months. Can he qualify? He could qualify for a breakout fighter, right? He can be that guy.

Four of his five UFC fights have ended in the first round. He is something to be excited about. joint second longest active winning streak in the UFC lightweight division tied with Arm and Sarukian. Foresiam is number one at six. Speaking of which, let me see something real quick. Arm and Sarukin's last fight was in November, and then prior to that, it was April of 24, right? UFC 300. In that stretch, this man has won one contender fight in September of 24.

UFC, UFC, UFC, UFC, UFC, UFC, UFC six fights he's won in that stretch. So he's gaining ground. Not to suggest that he's past Armand or in that conversation, but a nice win over Benile on Saturday and now he's won his way. I am very, very, very high on that man.

I think that he is going to be a player, a major player at 155 pounds. It was a pretty solid event on Saturday 7 a.m. Main card start which was tremendous on Paramount Plus Cody Steele with the win there were a few decisions on the prelims

Jonathan McAuliffe Wesley Shultz Colby thickness Jacob Malcun Junior Tafa would the win I know that G.C. Full credit to G.C. No kids and I think he was up the earliest of the bunch.

What time did you wake up? Did you wake up for the first fight? Oh yeah. I was there at 4 o'clock baby. Golly. Were you really drinking? Look, I had a couple Coopers.

Those weren't latergrams or anything like that? Those were legit. How could it be a latergram? I literally had the fights on in the background. You with the PDFs and the The, the, the, the, like some A-O shit. Like, I don't.

I will explain where these PT drops are coming from in a moment. But you could do things. You're smart with the computers. No, no, man. I was up. You know, sometimes when I make the good morning on these really early ones, people are like, oh, he scheduled it. I was firing back at everyone.

No, you were there. You were all over the gaffe. The mood significantly dropped at the start of the main card, Tai Tui Vasa losing again this time to Louis Sutherland. I mean, it was like if there was ever, I noted this in my reaction on Saturday. Sometimes the UFC does not give you a break if you're on a four, five, six, seven fight losing streak.

And sometimes they do. This was a break. This was a, hey man, win this one. win this one. Get off the Schneide. I just don't know what the future holds now for Tai Tuva. It was not a great performance. I love Ty.

And I wouldn't be mad, honestly, if he got another crack. But this is now one, two, three, four, five, six, seven in a row. Yeah. It was a bad performance. And to your point, this was the one. If you're a minus 240 or whatever he closed at and you're on a six-fight losing streak, you're getting one-handed to you. Yeah.

Yeah. just has no answer for the wrestling I saw a video of him yesterday with Jack Della who was obviously a little bit sad as well they were out on the porch raiding

scoring surfers here they are Ty seems to be in pretty good spirits Jack maybe not so much here's Ty and the boys on a Sunday evening in Australia All right so we're down here at North Beach

and you know what we're also here with the man but here we're scoring surfers one through to five see how fucking goodies are get down here show us your best wave old buds he's doing well

but he can do better Sorrento have you got it get down here gives your best wave get on it so there you have it in relatively good spirits

it does seem Brando Perich with a very impressive win. Maron Rahiki also with an impressive win. Steve Irsek, Tim Elliott, came at exactly the same time as the Naoya-in-away fight, and so attention was a little bit scattered on that one. The big Q, tremendous name, as well as everything about him that I'm a big fan of clearly, with the gigantic first round win, and then Carlos Prachas, which, as I said on Saturday, was a systematic breakdown and beatdown of Jack Delamadena. Carlos Prakas was unbelievable.

In my opinion, the best version of Carlos that we've seen, and we've seen some pretty damn good versions, including in November at Madison Square Garden, when he beat and stopped the former champion Leon Edwards. But, you know, you just don't know. You don't know how to explain this. Jack had looked so good, and then the Islam fight, you know,

it was suggested that he was broken in that one, and this one as well, there were signs of that. The striking, the elbows, the knees, the kicks. There was a takedown here or there. Carlos Pratchez is on a roll. And now the big question is, all right, Ian Gary is going to get that title shot.

It's inevitable. It's going to get announced. I would be shocked if they reverse course. They can. They can do whatever the hell they want. I would be shocked if they reverse course. The question is, does he fight one more against the Michael Morales,

who's been pushing for this matchup? I love that idea. I got a lot of pushback when I suggest it on Saturday. Do they go that route or do they have them, you know, wait? To me, there's issues with waiting. You're looking so good. You're on a roll. You've now won these fights. You've gone back on track after the lost Ian Gary in April of last year. Historically, Islam doesn't fight often if he wins. He's not coming back in two, three months. If he loses, can make a case that he deserves an immediate rematch. So you're waiting for a very long time. What do you

I say, Rick, what do you say? There's nothing I hate more than this idea that a title shot is just promised to everybody. It's guaranteed. We wait for it. Fight Michael Morales. If you are going to be the champion of the UFC. If you are to be the thing that we all believe you to be, you should be able to beat Michael Morales. And the same can be said for Morales, right? If you are to be the champion, your win over Sean Brady is great. It's fantastic. But if you beat Carlos, it's even better. I'm so over this idea that like there is a queue developing. There's nine guys in line. Fuck that.

Let them fight and see who's next in the meantime. Ian and Islam fight and Carlos and Michael fight. No issue. This is how MMA should be conducted. Go ahead and put it on that August card, honestly. Hell yeah. Talk about a fight I want to see. With the way they looked in their last two performances, that is an absolute bang.

Is that unfair? Because people were like, you know, Kenny Florin, God bless him, love Kenny. He's like, why kill them off? And like, well, I mean, it's not killing them off. This is MMA. This is not boxing. When you lose, Carlos lost to Ian Gary. Let's not, like, why do we have to pretend like if you lose an MMA, you're done forever?

This is a boxing holdover. It's not true. You can lose a fight and you can build yourself back to the point that Carlos has in two fights, three fights, however many, since the loss to Ian Machado, Gary, where now everybody's clamoring for a title shot again. It just doesn't exist. It's not true. You can lose an M. MMA and you can build yourself back, and a loss to Michael Morales would be fine and justifiable. A win over Michael Morales makes people want it even more. It's this idea of, like,

there's six guys in line. It's just so dumb. It did not used to be this way, and it should not be this way anymore. I also don't think you're killing them off because they're both contenders. They're both right there. It's not like they're one's 13th and one is unranked, and you're going to send one down into the duldrums of the division if they lose. They're going to be right there to Rick's point. I see people in the chat right now saying, F that, Morales is next. And so my response to that is Morales' last fight was in November. So by the time he fights again, it's going to be well over a year. Like, we don't, I don't like this sitting around and waiting. Next after the title fight that's going to happen in three months? Yeah, it's crazy. Fight call us

brought us. Fight. Just fight. Like, I understand there's a lot at stake. But if you're that good, you're going to have to beat these guys, and that is such a good fight. Golly. Like, we finally have gotten to a point at 170 where there's new blood, where there aren't people squatting on their spot. I'm not naive.

I understand why they're campaigning for this. There's a lot of money at stake. There's opportunities that come with it. But the train kind of has to roll and if the schedule doesn't align. If Ian Gary and Islam were fighting next week in Newark, this weekend in Newark or next week or two weeks, I get that.

They're fighting in three and a half months. And let's be honest, no knock on Islam. He just doesn't fight all that often. And again, if he loses, he's probably going to get an immediate rematch, I would think, because the fight would be gigantic. So what are we doing then? We're going to wait all this time and then eventually be booked, and now you've just waited, you know, for five, six extra months

when you could have been preparing for a fight. It doesn't make any sense to me. This thing about, like, you're spoiling two prospects is just based on the fact that you think one or the other is going to lose, right? Well, inevitably, somebody's going to lose, but you think Carlos Prakis can't beat Michael Morales. That is what you're essentially saying, right? It's the same thing that we were hearing around

Ilya, right? Don't have him fight Max. Don't have him fight Max. Because if he fights Max, he'll never fight Volk. Turns out, obviously, if you saw Ilya versus Max, you know how that would have went. But this idea that we're protecting these, like, prospects up to... It's a boxing thing.

Carlos and Michael fight. It's as simple as that. You want to be honest, I want to see Carlos versus Michael more than I want to see Islam versus Ian Gary. That's great. I mean, it's actually not even close. close in my mind. Both are phenomenal. I understand that. Great point by Honor Jordan. Sean Brady's fighting this weekend, and I know he has to kind of get back on the horse, but like he's fighting

before Michael and he got brutally knocked out. And I don't want us to get into a position. And Michael was out there campaigning for the ESSump fight. Get it. Now campaigning for the Carlos fight. That's what he should be doing. That's what he should be doing. This is a proper number one contender fight. And truth be told, if you even look at the rest of the rankings, Like there's no, I'm pulling it up right now, there's no one else at once. So you'll have Ian Gary fighting, Jack just lost, Morales is there, who else can have some sort of claim? Kamarov's going to try not happening, you know, Ballal a year ago is fighting, you know, in a title fight in Montreal defending his title. Now he's headlining the apex.

They ain't giving him a shot of this nature, even with a win over Gabriel Bonfim. Those are the two guys. Those are the two guys. It would be amazing. What a fight. And you're right. Perfect co-made event. Need more of that.

Would love more of that. Perfect co-main event. If and when they book Ian versus Islam, Islam, Islam versus Ian, for Philadelphia, this would be the perfect co-main. Now I can understand also you wanted the headline as well. You want to spread the love. The roster is a little bit thin. It should be five rounds.

And it would be tremendous stuff. I don't even, like, who would be the favorite? Maybe Carlos considering how. Good, he's looked as of late? I don't know. Maybe our next guest will know. So we were supposed to be joined by him in all my years, in all my years of knowing Chalp,

never got a last minute cancellation, which, as you guys know, is a kick to the balls. But he was under the weather and he promised he'd be back. True to his word, as always, he is back. And so hopefully he is feeling much better.

And hopefully we can talk to him right here and now in good fall. Are you feeling better, Chelle? I was worried sick. Are you kidding me, Ariel? I feel fantastic. Amazing. I'm happy to be with you, though.

I got... I got the last second text, and I couldn't tell if you were working me or not there. You've never done that before. You've usually powered through. It's very embarrassing, by the way. I do not... I do not like to miss a day. I try to never, ever, ever, for any reason, miss a day.

But I'm in a studio, so there's other people in the studio. It didn't feel right. I knew I was under the weather. It didn't feel right being in a enclosed area, so I canceled. Well, we're happier here. Thank you. And hopefully you're feeling better, as you say,

it sounds and feels like you are feeling much better. It looks like you're feeling better. What do you think about this? What do you think? Because we were talking about Carlos Proches. I don't know how much you heard. Tremendous performance, incredible performance, systematic beat down, destruction of JDM.

He wants a title shot. Morales wants a title shot. I think they should fight, but I got pushback from our old friend Kenny Floreen online saying, no, don't kill them off. Let one of these guys fight the winner of Islam versus Ian, which is going to happen in August, what would you do if you had the pencil for the top of the welterweight division? Oh, was that announced? I didn't know that was announced. No, no, no, that's just us.

You know, I got ears to the ground, boots to the ground. I know everything. You're confident in that. Islam versus Ian? Yes. Yes. Okay. Then what do you do with Morales? Morales versus Prachas. Okay. And that's the fight that you're arguing for that Kenny said, no, don't. He said he doesn't want to see Batman fight Superman right now. Save that for one. one of them is a champion. That's interesting. You definitely don't want to kill your division. I get his point on that. But Kenny might be too close to the trees to see the forest. Like there's not 10 normal people that know what a Michael Morales is. They wouldn't know his record or where he's from or who his last opponent was or if you held up a picture of him.

They wouldn't even be able to identify him. And that's not true with Ian Gary. Like, he's what in this industry we would call a star. But I didn't know that fight until you just said that. I thought that Moral was actually going to get the nod. There was always a rumor that Morales was told at Madison Square Garden right after his fight, you're next. And we never had confirmation of that. And I even saw that video when I was trying to read Dana's lips.

I didn't think that Dana said, you're next. I thought that that was just a rumor. But we've never really got that wrapped up. But I guess we do. I guess you've solved it now. Well, the initial plan actually, believe it or not, was Islam versus Ian in Miami last month. And that didn't come to fruition. and that's why I never truly believe that it would happen at the White House, Islam versus Ilya.

I think Ian was always that guy. And it sounds like if you read the tea leaves now, he's going to be that guy most likely for the Philadelphia pay-per-view or numbered event, whatever they call them. All right. Yeah, that's interesting. You don't believe my reporting these days because you also didn't believe Connor versus Max when I said that. It is tough to pretend that you're excited for an Islam fight. I even saw Islam side put out an announcement. like they were dangling this tweet a few weeks ago,

big announcement coming soon. It's like, hey, guys, I don't want to be a jerk, but there's not. Yeah, we got a fight. But just trust me, it's not big. Like, you could have Islam's next fight be a co-main event if you wanted to put it on the right card. If he was the fight, let's say, in November at Madison Square Guard. That's not going to be a main event fight. But he does have one big fight, and that would be against Ian Gary.

So the question is, when do you want to play that? And I would have bet that they were going to delay it. You want to know another one? you mentioned Carlos Prattis versus Morales, but Red Panty Knight is still the king of that division. Like getting a title shot is not the biggest thing at 170. Whoever gets Connor McGregor is the biggest thing at 170. And at one point, that was offered to Carlos. And I don't know, maybe Carlos's success now shows us, hey, let's not put him in there with Connor.

But then again, do we punish him for being successful? The fight that he really wants is the same one everyone wants, which is to be. in there with Connor. So I think that there's a few opportunities right now. Right now, I think the odd man out is Michael Morales. What do you think would have happened if the version of Carlos Parchus that we saw on Saturday fought Connor? Yeah, yeah, but would have been bad. Conner's been out. I mean, Connor just has everything up against him. There's not any athlete that's come back from this specific injury. And we've seen a few try, whether it was Chris Wydenen or Corey Hill, Anderson Silva, nobody's come back from this injury and looked good.

Whether they won or lost, they didn't look good. Nobody's been out for five years and come back and has looked good, whether they want or lost. Nobody has changed weight classes and looked good, right? You've got all these strikes up against Connor, and he doesn't seem to care. Like, he's really open to a challenge. I mean, you're asking me what happened. There's nobody on the roster that can go up against what Connor's got to

which is five years out, a brand new weight class and a catastrophic injury. Like, nobody can deal with that. If he found anybody on the roster and he could get to the second or third round, those would be tremendous victories in and of themselves. Do you think he beats Max? I don't think they're going to put him with Max. Why do you keep saying this, Chil? You keep refuting my reporting.

I'm the only one reporting Max. Oh, are you putting that out there? I've been putting it out there for weeks, if not months. But are you saying that you hope it's Max? No, no. You're saying Connor's coming back and his Max. It's all but done. Okay.

And that would disappoint me, right? I mean, you've got to do something with him and that. Why would that disappoint you? Those guys have no reason to fight. And the fact that it's a rematch, you can't bring that up. Because only guys like you and me know that it's a rematch. Nobody else knows that that fight happened. Nobody realizes that happened at 145.

And then they're not even going to fight at 155. They're going to fight at 170, which Max is barely a 55-pounder, let alone a 70. There's just nothing on it. And then what's the win for Connor? That he's 2-0 against Max? Nobody knows that he's 1-0 against Max. I just don't get it. Does one of them draw into a bigger fight?

Does one of them drawn to a title fight? Does this affect the rankings? Like, no, no, and no. It's at 170 pounds. The match doesn't make any level of sense. I would get behind it to a degree, but that's a weird booking. I think that bookings a mistake. And I don't think you're right.

I don't think they're going to do it. Okay, so if you were booking International Fight Week, who would you, and Connor says he's coming back, and he's the perfect guy for International Fight Week, who would you book him against? Yeah. So I would have given a real good look to Prattis. The ultimate opponent is Michael Chandler, right,

but the calendar doesn't work out. No. So to find an opponent that's better than Chandler, I just don't think that the UFC is ever going to be in a spot, desperation where they're going to grab a 55-pounder to do a 70-pounder's job. I just don't think. And it would be very different if you make countercut the weight. If you go, look, you're a 55-pounder.

You want Max. I have no idea why. But if that's who you want, you're at least going to have to do it at a weight class that Max competes in. I just don't see the UFC rolling over and going, hey, here's a main event on international fight weekend that is not ranked, is not about a personal grudge, has nothing to do with the division. doesn't create a potential contender coming out the back end.

Here's two guys that don't want to cut weight. Here's your main event. Five rounds. Tickets on sale Monday. I've never seen a time in UFC history that I could point to where they did something like that. And I just, I don't think they're going to do it now. So you don't think Connor fights on July 11th?

I think that, yeah, ultimately, yes, that is where I'm at. Wow. But moreover, I'm stronger on the idea that he does not fight. Max on the 11th. Well, you're the last guy to speak to him as far as the media is concerned. What was your takeaway from that conversation on your podcast? I believed him. If Connor was offered Max, Connor would take the fight.

And he doesn't want to fight at 155 though. Like, Connor's only stipulation is put it at 70 or above. I'll go to 85 if you want. But Connor's got this new position of, hey, tough guys, BMF, real BMS, don't cut weight. So I just share with you, it won't be below 170. but the opponent he's leaving completely up to the organization. He's not put a hit down. It doesn't matter if it's a title, a non-title, if it's a non-rank guy. Connor just wants to compete. And there is also a game that gets played Ariel where Connor is most likely to be offered a guy that you would

expect Connor to turn down. You would expect that he's going to say no. And you referenced me talking to Connor, what's my big takeaway? My big takeaway is he's not going to say no. And this is an old promoter. You have to do this. I don't want to get into great detail on this, but within the contracts, an athlete has to be offered three fights a year. And some of the athletes, their value is not within their performance of competing. Their value is in stopping them from competing somewhere else. So you satisfy that end by offering an opponent that you think that they're going to say no to. I just predict for you that they're going to get. double-crossed because Connor's going to say yes.

That actually happened with the Carlos fight. I think they offered it to him. He said yes, and I don't think that they were truly interested in booking that fight. They assumed that Connor would say no. Yes. But he did say yes, and then everybody goes, oh, crap. Yeah. Like, that's not the direction we were going to go.

Yeah, you're right about that. What's up with you and Jorge Mosvedal? Well, that's a tough one. It's very tough because I don't take Jorge as like an equal. I don't look at him as like in equal. And he is claiming that he's going to fight in the octagon. And I don't come to him to hurt his dreams. I'm coming just to let his life get on track.

Don't pause. Don't cancel your plans on the weekend. You're not fighting in the octagon. I'm either right or I'm wrong. But for me to be right, he doesn't have to actually go in there and fight. He just has to have been told by somebody in authority. that he's going to go in there and fight. And I think he should call that person back.

There was a misunderstanding. George Mosvro will never fight in the UFC. That's not a knock to George Mosvadole. That's a reality. I made that claim and that really struck a nerve. I don't know why that made him so upset. Do you have any interest in fighting him? I would never turn down and fight with George Mosvroar,

but I would never seek a fight with George Mosvado. The guys that I come out on your show when I call it, these guys like John Jones, And you guys are like Fador Emilianenko. This is George Mosvedal. George, I don't really know what to do with this. George is greatly out of shape. And George made a claim that he would come up to heavyweight to face me.

And I just thought that would be fun for your show. Like, hey, George, let's both fly into the Ariel Show and let's just do away it. Right now. Yes. I won't have a lot of time to lose weight. You won't have a little. But let's just go right into Ariel's show and let's just get on a scale. Because there is no way that he is the smaller.

guy. And you ask me, do I have an interest in finding George? No, I don't have any interest in George at all. I don't find George to be interesting. But if you're asking me if I would fight George Montesville, of course, of course I would. He suggested on our program on Wednesday that you're jealous because he got a UFC podcast and you didn't, and that's where there's stems from. Okay. I didn't know he had a UFC podcast. You just shared something. He's on a show called Deep Waters with Dustin Porre and Dean Thomas and Chris Wyden and he said that you tried out for it and he got it and so you're jealous of him. I didn't know that.

Okay, so that's not true. It could be true. If he's got the show, I would not be jealous that I'm not on a show with George Mossvedal. Okay. What is jealous me? Jealous is the corrupt desire to possess something somebody else has? Something like that, yeah. I mean, feels pretty accurate.

Yeah. I think the word you're looking for is envy, not jealous. He used jealous. But either way. Okay. Either way. No, I want it harbors something again. George if he found a good fortune.

Okay. Yeah, because it just sort of came out of nowhere. He did invite you to do some bare knuckle with him, you know, the bare knuckle promotion that he has, but I don't feel like that's up your alley at the moment. Errol. What are you doing? What is... Are you... You're pretending that George Mosvrol has a promotion?

He had actually... He actually had a show on Friday. Joel Romero was fighting in it. Anthony and Jokoukiwani. George Mazzvedal. George Mosville has a show. Yes. George Mosville has a license to put on shows.

I believe so, unless it's like some sort of fake thing. The people that participate in the show, the check that they get at the end of night, it's signed by George Mosvado. I mean, they call it Gamebred Bare Knuckle M.A. No, no, no, no. I want you to answer my question. These are very simple. I don't know. George Mosvill signed the bottom of checks.

Yes or no? I don't know. I've never received a check from me. What do you think? What do you think? I don't know. I really don't. Do you think that George Mosvital, a guy bragging about a.

podcast, you believe he has a promoter's license within a jurisdiction that you cover, yes or no? I don't know. Does he have contracts? Does George Mosvital have contracts? Did he work with the legal team and prepare a document for an organization that he is the head of? Do you think that yes or no? Maybe, because they're fighting for GameBred MMA. Are you saying that he's sort of like just like a figurehead that they put in place, but he has nothing to do with it? I'm actually not even going that far. Who is they? Well, they had a show. You know they had a show, right? Well, I know that there is a show. I'm asking you, you're the one that said it's his show. So I'm asking you if you believe he

signs the bottom of the check. I'll say yes. Do you not believe that? I don't believe that you believe that. And of course, I know that. Of course I know game bread Masbriol does not sign the bottom of a check. So you think it has nothing to do with them? I feel like you're changing the target. No. Okay, would you like it? I do feel like you're moving this around. I mean, you can be real with me and be real with George.

You can have George come on here and he calls out Shale, then you have me. But you've got to be straight with me. When I come and go, hey, Ariel, this guy's pretending he's got a show. You've got to concede back to you at Shale. He doesn't have a show. I can't be insulting like that. There's a level that we have to do where we play here and we operate within the real. You know, I didn't really like that, by the way, a moment ago when you said, you know,

he had an idea to fight you, but that doesn't really seem. up your alley. I will beat George Monsvrol at any event ever. And that's also something that I think that you believe. I don't think you believe that George is going to put me in his show. Has George ever fought in his own show? Has George ever sold out a show? What venue is George's show at? If it's George's show and you know so much about it, tell me one of the most basic details. It was in Miami. It was a smaller venue. It was on Friday. Yole Romero fought Alex Nicholson. Anthony and Joe Couani fought on the card as well. There were Luis Palomino.

How did Luis do? I don't know how he did. Oh, you didn't watch. I have highlights, though. There was a great finish in the, and Joe Coani fight. You didn't watch it. You're friends with Moss, but certainly you would have watched this. I saw the highlights.

It was a Friday night. I was watching NBA basketball. Look at this, submission right here. This is something else. Did you see this? Did you see this? No. I'm watching it, though. You know what, now that I remember it, Luis Palmino did win by TKO.

Now that you read it. No, I'm not even looking. Dow Orcher was on the car too. Now, this is a stand-up show. This is GameBrit. Look at this. Look at that. No, it's GameBred Bar-Nuckle M.A. Everyone knows that. So it's M.M.A. with no gloves, bare-knuckles style.

Oh, really? Oh, it's not just boxing. No, it's everything. Brendan Schaub was on the brinkleckle. broadcast, Jimmy Smith, too. Why would you suggest that I wouldn't do that? I don't think at this juncture in your life you're interested in this. That's all. I'm not saying you're not man enough or tough enough.

It seems like an interesting thing to say. Do you know of a time ever, ever, ever that I have backed down? No, that's actually something I have for sure. But I mean, ever from anyone for any reason on any notice, set, any weight class, on any set of rules? No. And it seems like a weird thing that you would say to me. Okay, I'm sorry.

You know that I promote shows. You know that I host shows. You know that I have risked the money. You know that I have found the capital. You know that I am a licensed promoter that's put on over 100 events. Don't you think it's a little rude to come and say to me and pretend? You know good and well George Mosvrold does not have a show. You know that that's not his show. And you know he doesn't sign the bottom of the paycheck. You know these things. You know he's not licensed in any jurisdiction. You know they borrowed the name GameBred. You know all of these things. And you're pretending of that. Otherwise, I wish you wouldn't do that. I don't like to be presumptuous. Okay. That's fair. Can I ask you about Josh Hokit? You had him on your show. And I was curious what you thought of him.

Because there were moments where I thought perhaps you were getting a little bit frustrated in the flow, but maybe I was misreading that. He's clearly playing a character. He reminds me a little bit of the three faces of Foley. Mick Foley had a like a sort of shy, sheepish character. He had Cactus Jack. He had dude love. You had mankind. He had himself.

Do you enjoy this? Is it hitting for you? Do you think I weigh more than George Monsvital? At the moment? Yeah. Yes. What would you guess that he weighs? 190.

Oh, really? He's that small. Okay. I weigh more than him. I loved Hoket. I love speaking with Hogan. I never got frustrated at once. That was one of those conversations that I wish would have just kept going.

But I also had a concern. and putting it out. Like, he was entrusting me. Like, we were having a conversation, and he made a calculated risk to drop a curtain and talk with me. And I didn't want to take advantage of that by putting something out that revealed too much. But I don't think that's the case. I think that it's very clear that he is here to entertain. And he is even telling you, this isn't, okay, this is the real Josh. And I get the real Josh is one of the characters' names. But he's even letting you know, that it's a character. So I thought we had a really good conversation.

I thought it was a lot of fun. I also think that you're seeing a genius at work. You're seeing somebody that from an artistic standpoint, understands that his performance is open to interpretation. And he let us in on that. But I will tell you, having the keys to that kingdom and deciding to share that with the world or not did take a lot of thought.

He's just what the heavyweight division ordered right now. Like, he is a massive breath of fresh air. Let's do something for fun. Okay, okay. Let's call George Mosvital. Okay. And let's ask him, who was your main event at your show on Friday? And then let's just say, how did he do?

No, no, no. He was sitting right there. I saw him. We have the main event. But if it was his show, he would know. Let's just ask him, well, let's just ask him if he can produce the names. Hey, by the way, we heard that Luis fought on the show. How did he do?

I don't want to waste time with you. This is precious time. He would have paid him, right? He would have paid him so there'd be like multiple steps there. Sure. Do you want to withdraw that George has a show? Do you really want your name on that, Ariel? Can we call George now and you ask him?

You know he doesn't have a show. I mean, he came on as the promoter on Wednesday, the show that... I just want you to say whether or not you think he has a show. Are you surprised that they put Ilya to Poria in the main event on the White House card against an American? When let's be honest, the chances are that he wins that fight. Like, we're talking about the 250th celebration of the United States, and the show could end with an American knocked out on the White House lawn. Symbolically, that seems a little bit surprising, no?

Well, I don't. No, I was not surprised. And I wasn't surprised because I would look at, like, Cinco de Mayo, as an example. where, you know, when we played Cinco de Montefat Sphere the first time, we took a Georgian versus a kid from Arizona. Yeah. Like, neither one of them was Mexican. And so, I mean, I just share with you, and I don't know that it was different than the

co-main event. Didn't it Chavchenko win the co-mean events? Yeah. No, historically speaking, I don't know that we would need anything like that. And the only way to preserve that idea would be to put two Americans against each other. There would be no other way to control that outcome. No, the answer was no. They were willing to put a Muslim on the car, just for example, like if you wanted to bring in geopolitical,

that would have been very fascinating at a time that we're in right now to have a Muslim be the biggest star on the White House lawn, while Iran is being in attacking, I mean, just for the people that are paying attention and looking to cause problems, even that would have been fair game by the UFC. The UFC puts sport in front of everything. What the Olympic Games intended to do, which is what no matter is going on in the world, we're going to stop right now, we're going to shake hands, and we're going to compete in these Olympic games. The UFC actually does that. So I was not surprised.

And if an American has to win, we got to call Albuquerque. Our greatest chance of winning all relies in one guy who's in Albuquerque and is the one guy that got excluded from the car. So, no, I don't think that we are trying to rig the deck for an American. And if I can add this, I don't know that we're wise to count out Justin Gaci. I think we've counted him out enough times. And by the way, is I really that good? I asked a few guys this, Ariel, guys that would impress you. Dustin Porier, Chandler, Chris Wyden, Aljo, George Monsvital, roomful of what you would consider experts.

And I asked them that. I said, have we really seen enough Ilya? is Ilya is good as everybody's saying, do we know that with the evidence that we have right now? And they all looked at me like that was a crazy question and said, yes, Ilya is as good as we think he is. I said, you think that Ilya is better fighter than Islam? Yes, he got the nod over Islam. That surprised me. I'm an I'm an Ilya believer, but I think Gachi can go with them.

I think Gachi can protect himself at all times. Which fight are you more interested in? Ilya Islam, Ilya Armin. I'll tell you my vote, Ilya Armin. Sure. Ilya Armin would be the fight, yeah, for me. Yeah, I don't know how long Armine's going to be getting the stiff arm. There was an announcement put out that was Patty the Batty versus Binwa Satini.

And there was a number of people that were excited for. I don't get it. I wasn't excited for it. I don't get it. But I would also have the big question. Well, what are we doing? With Sarukian, like how long are we leaving Sarukian in purgatory? Sirukian has a personal grudge with Patty.

You think Mazavala weighs 190? Do you really think that? Because when Mazavutal was fighting, he had to cut to 170, didn't he? Yeah, maybe 195. And you think that he's basically in, like, walk-around shape back when he was in his career? He looked a little soft to me. I got to tell you, he looked a little pudgy. Is this event political, the White House event?

Is it a political? event? No. No, and they've done a really good job. That's such a hard, that's such a fine line to walk and not fall on one side or the other. I mean, you're a sport and you're going to the White House, but Dana's always walked that walk. I mean, he has always found a way to keep it out of it. They had something with flags and there was no flags and there were flags. And I mean, he's like done his best. It's a very hard dance to do to just keep it out. And I like to go back to the Olympics example. The Olympics does do a good job of that, but it's only every four years, and you still can't get the Iranian to wrestle the Israeli, because it won't touch each other, which ought to be

a ban. There should be a disqualification, but there's not. Outside of that, though, for the most part, they're pretty good at letting sport, trump everything, and I feel like the UFC does a real good job of that, too. One of the main reasons why I wanted to have you on Wednesday was because I went on this soliloquy about the art of trash talking, and I said, no, No one skirted that line better than you. There was a charm when you did it, even though you were, you know, you were poking and hitting on some nerves. I mean, the stuff with Brazil was, like this is textbook stuff, the stuff with the

Noggero brothers, the stuff with Anderson. It never, at least to me, it never, some people may feel otherwise, it never felt like it ever crossed the line. Did it get personal? Did it get heated? Yes. But it was, it was unique. It was creative.

And there was a charm to it. And I would suggest that there have been three or four fights max that have bordered on like very personal and maybe crossing the line. The case could be made for you in Anderson, case, Connor Habib, Kamaro versus Colby, and this fight coming up on Saturday in Newark, Sean Strickland versus Hamzad. This one is borderlining on uncomfortable at this point, given the things that Sean is saying,

saying that if he gets jumped, he's going to shoot him and goat F for this and talking about religion. do you feel like it is crossing the line at any point? Do you think that it is going too far? Would you like to see me fight Mosvital? Seriously. Is that interested you? This is what I wanted to.

This is this. You are the foremost expert in this topic. I would love nothing more than to hear your take on this. If you found out we were fighting tonight, would you stop what you were doing to sit down to watch that? If I was doing the dishes that I knew you were on, I'd put it on in the corner and listen to it. I wouldn't watch it, but I would listen to it. Okay. Nothing more than that. All right.

I wish that Strickland wouldn't have said he was going to shoot him, by the way, because that does stop the playfulness. And one thing about this grudge, if you were to tie it back to its genesis, it was roughly three years ago. And it was right after, it was right after Chamaeuf had beaten Kamara Usman on Fight Island, which is a short, last minute fight. And to spice in the pot, we were told, and I think it was like more of an encouragement for Kamara to take the challenge. whoever wins this will fight for the belt next. So, Chameh comes out with the victory, and Sean Strickland's wearing the belt, and Sean Strickland's got a date set. It's in January, and it's in Vancouver, and now he finds out his opponent. And Sean was kind of like, man, this is a really hard draw. I'm not sure that he deserves it because he hasn't been here

and worked his way up the rankings, but I'm not going to use that to avoid him. I'm interested to avoid him because it's a really tough draw. Like, Sean was very open and honest about it. then started to slip out that they used to train together, and then it slipped out. One guy had an interpretation, and the other guy had a very different interpretation, and then finding that third witness. I mean, it was one of these things that it was kind of interesting, but before it ever heated up too much, it gets revealed to us, Chimayev's hand is broken, inset Drickus Duplessi. Well, once we inserted Drichus Duplice, we never heard of Chimayev and Strickland again, and now two years later, now that they've refound each other,

what used to just be two guys in a workout room, sharing workouts and sharing experiences, and maybe interpreting them a little bit different, has turned into, I'm going to shoot you in the street. And I just feel like we escalated a little heavily. Dominic Cruz is now called for no face off, that that would be irresponsible to keep these guys apart. And is that true? I mean, can these guys really not be around each other to do fight-style activities

like face off? Are they really carrying weapons and do is the security that's provided not enough? I don't know. I felt like the I'm going to shoot you took some of the fun out of it. I wish that phrase wasn't used. By the way, I don't know that he was kidding around. He is somebody that practices his Second Amendment rights. He does have a concealed carry.

He is trained with a weapon. I don't know that Sean was joking. But I also don't like the theme of that. I was in a spot, Ariel, where I had personal security and I got jumped by Vandalay and some other guys. And the security told me afterwards that will never happen again. I'm going to shoot them. And I had to tell, Hodrigo was his name. And I said, Haudrigo, no matter what happens to me, if I got to go to the hospital, no matter what happens to me, do not shoot Vandale Silva.

And there was like a discussion. And then he left and went and talked to Vandale and told Vandale, here's my job is to protect. him. I can't fight you, but I'm not trained to fight you. This is how I protect people. This is what I'm going to do to you. And I pled with them. Do not shoot Vandale-A-Silva. So I'm pleading with Sean Strickland. Now, if Chameh or Chameh's friends approach you, Sean, please, don't shoot them. And I think that's great advice. My theory is, I've been thinking about this a lot. No, but seriously, my thing is, there's something self-destructive about all this talk. It's one thing to promote a fight. It's one thing to get people excited.

And I have no doubt that people will watch if they do fight. But as you are doing that and teasing, hey, this fight might be off because I may get, you know, handcuffed and taken away if I see this guy. Does that not scream like, hey, I want out? I'm just suggesting. Like, I was asking people around him and they said, oh, he was unhappy that the UFC is putting him far away on a different spot because they don't want him to run in. Come on, man. This is the one sport, as you know, that you actually get to beat up. the guy you don't like. I love the NBA. The Knicks are playing the Sixers tonight.

Mitchell Robinson hates Joel Embed. He can't fight him. If he fights him on the court tonight, he's suspended. Sean Strickland can actually beat up Hamsa Chimaev on Saturday in five days time. What is all this? I'm going to get handcuffed. I'm going to shoot this guy talk. That to me is counterproductive and just screams that you maybe don't want to be there anymore. I don't know. That's the only theory that I could think of. I'm not questioning, scared, not scared. Sean Strickland is a badass mother. Why else is he talking like this? I don't get it. Yeah, and you know where my allegiance stands, right? I stand with Sean Strickland. I roll with Sean in this situation. I got you. But it's still, it's, yeah, and you do too, which, and Sean listens to this piece, and Sean will listen to us. That's where it's, hey, man, this went too far. Like, if there's any part of you that thinks that you might do that, put the gun in a safe before you go out. You do not want to find yourself in that kind of a situation. Anthony Smith had this, where there was an intruder and he broke into his house, and Anthony started fighting him, and Anthony's daughters are home and the wife. And Anthony can't escalate. this fight high enough to make this guy stop. He was on PCP. But Anthony's even talked, like,

in hindsight, as hard as that was and as terrifying it, I'm so glad I didn't have a gun. I don't want to have done that. Whether I had the legal right or not, I don't want to have done that. So, I mean, I just share for you, I really hope that Sean just leaves the weapon behind. He's going to have security. He's going to have personal security, right? I mean, he could get Elliott himself if he needed to. Nobody's going to mess with Elliot. And I'm only sharing that it did take some of the fun. Well, you remember the time it was on a floor, I think it was Atlantic City,

but it had to do with Muhammad Ali. And whoever he was fighting pulled a gun out on him and pulled the trigger. Do you remember this? Yes, yes, yes. It turned out it was a starter gun. And this is before Columbine happened, but that's a really horrific thing.

Somebody pulling a weapon is a really horrific thing, and it kind of breaks the rules. We pretend to be barbaric cage fighters that adhere to no rules. But we're not really. There are certain rules. Don't touch the guy's eyes. Don't bite him.

Oh, and in press conferences, don't shoot the guy. One of the rules. 100%. If the feud gets to a point where you can't do face-offs, then to me it's counterproductive. Is it not? Like, the face-offs help sell the fight. George Mosvital did not respect his own career enough to stick a needle in his ass every now and then. Do you find that to be, like, it's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.

How do you know that to be true? But a little bit of a letdown. Like, oh, I'll do anything to win. It said, well, not, you didn't do that, George. How do you know that to be true? It affects people differently. No, George is clean. George is a really good fighter.

I got to tell you, I don't love the heat with George. George is a really good fighter. And I enjoyed all of George's career. But, no, he didn't. He did it clean. He's at one of the most dirty gyms in the history of sport. But he did it the right way. I got to give him that.

He never cheated. Are you into this fight on Saturday, and how do you think it plays out? Could I ask? Me and George? No, you and, uh, not you. You know, he called me a woman. Yeah. He called me a woman, which I'm not as sure of the insult, but I don't know about that.

Like, there could be a time. Yeah. But I don't know about that. The chemists that I work with take great offense to the idea that he imply I'm going soft. I just don't think it's true. What is the fight Saturday? Oh, these two guys. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm into the fight. I'm into the fight. I mean, Strickland is the last hope. He is the last line of defense between the martial arts community and having to watch Chamaev for the next period of time. And I remember warning the UFC. I remember being in 2012 sitting with Kenny Floreen doing UFC tonight, warning the UFC of the Russian invasion. I was warning them, it's coming. The Russians are coming. and you are our only line of defense. Quit signing these guys. And this is right on the back end of the Klichko brothers ruining boxing to where nobody

wanted to watch. Unless you were in Germany where I'm told they're big like David Hasselhoff, nobody in America got to be excited for a heavyweight boxing fight because the Klichos were so effective and so boring to watch. I remember warning the UFC, unless you want a whole bunch of guys coming in with beards and no mustaches, taking all your belts away. The only way to stop them is don't give them the opportunity. As a wrestler, I can tell you, this culture is a different level of toughness.

And Strickland really is our last line of defense. If Chimai of Penetrate Sean Strickland, you better get used to the Chimai of era because it's not going anywhere anytime soon. Can he win? Definitely. Can Sean Strickland beat him? Definitely. Sean Strickland, and let me tell you this.

Let me start with Chimai. There is a misconception on Chamaev, which is that he gets tired in fights. If I'm an athlete and I don't get tired in a fight, I failed everybody. I failed the ticket buyer. My own coach, Clayton Hires, would be furious if he saw me in a fight where I didn't get exhausted. Why would I be saving energy? Whether it was a one-round fight or a hundred rounds, I had better use all the energy that I have. And we'd seen Chameh have do that.

We saw Chameh, have go out there with guys like Kamara Usman, need everything that he had. guys like Gilbert Burns needs everything that he had. And when the fight was over, he had no more energy. That's what he should have done. That's what his job is to do. And the opponent should have had the courage to have done the same. So I will not conceive to the idea that Chamae of can't go championship rounds. When a guy gets tired, if he wiltz, that's one thing. But if a guy gets tired and he pushes on through the exhaustion, that's what makes champions. So first of, I just don't think that that narrative is true. But secondly, with Strickland, how are you going to beat him? You're not going to take him down, and if you do, you're not going to keep him there.

If you do take him down and you do keep him there, every five minutes, they're going to blow a whistle and make you reset. And I don't think that Strickland can get tackled for 25 straight minutes and held there. So, Chamaio, can he beat Strickland? Yeah, sure, but he's going to have to find a way to do it, and it's not going to be what he did with Drichis. It's not going to be dominating ground and pound. What's your level of interest, May 16th, Rhonda versus Gina? Well, I'm interested in that whole thing. I'm interested in it for one greater perspective.

This is my favorite Rhonda. I have loved Rhonda's work here. I think that Rhonda has spit fire. And Rhonda did not attempt to manufacture a conflict. I hate that and it doesn't work. And the audience sees right through it. Particularly when you're coming from the rassling business, it's even more important that you're straight with the audience.

She has no reason to fight Gina. The one thing that those two have tried to rework, and for the most part, successfully, is that this fight is the one that got away. And that's just not true. I was around in that era, nobody was talking about Rhonda versus Gina. The talk was Rhonda versus Sibor. Gina stepped in and did the Siborke, but there was really not this big push to get them together. Other than that, they've told the truth, which is we're fighting for absolutely no reason other than attention. And Ronda's tried to steer this to MVP versus the U.S.

UFC, which is great for talking points, even though it's not a head-to-head, even though it's a one-night of fun versus a business that has stability, it's still good for talking points. And then Rhonda even found a way to bring Kayla Harrison into this and said that she uses her next brace to hold on to her title. I mean, that was just fire. You know, I thought that she was just wonderful. But as far as seeing them compete, Ariel, I don't know how many rounds they're fighting. Five. I don't know if it's three or five. Five. For sure. And I don't know what weight class is there. 145.

Okay. Not 55. You're sure. 100%. And I think that that's something that they could have made a little bit better part of the story. Like the way this goes is that Gene had gotten so out of shape. So this would bring her back to her prime weight class of 145. And Rhonda, when she refused to fight Cyborg, was very clear that she would fight Cyborg at 135. She was not going to leave her weight class. So I think it's interesting that she is now leaving her weight class.

I feel like that would be a part of the story to bind these girls together. But if that can't draw, then make it Ronda versus the UFC. I found it to be compelling. What about the whole offering, the card, Netflix? Like, do you feel like this is going to be a one-off? Or do you think that this is going to be a new threat? I don't want to say to the UFC, but just another place. As you know, there needs to be other places for the boys and gals, right?

Like, there needs to be other players. It can't just be one place. Yes, and threat to the UFC. Let's take that out. Is MVP going to take on the UFC? No. But can MVP come in and do something fun? And fun's not a word that we get to have over in the UFC very often.

I mean, it's like every 10 years that we have fun. We bring in James Tony. We bring in CM Punk. We don't always have fun. They have to be significant fights. This fight, the winner, it represents something, which is another reason that I greatly do not believe that Max and Connor are going to fight. But I just share that, yes, could Netflix do that?

two or three times a year? Sure. And I would be curious the contract that these fighters have. Like when Francis got his contract, does it call for three fights? One-off.

One-off. Is it a one-time deal, right? That's why the Nate thing was brilliant. Nate was talking to the UFC, you know, was weighing an offer, and then took the one-fight deal on the biggest streaming platform

in the world, win that fight, and now your value is even greater. And have you seen how he looks? Have you seen the picture of Nate? Oh, Nate's the man. Nate's the greatest. Your use of the word brilliant. We got a little loose.

You see how he looks. Do you see his shape? Very good look. Look at Nate. Look at Nate. Looks incredible. We haven't seen him up like that. That's a fun fight, by the way. Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz. That's a fun fight, man. Mike Perry is just fun. I was at some bare-knuckle fight. It was the night that Mike Perry fought Luke Rockholt. Oh, yeah.

It was out in Colorado, and this was Feldman's biggest event to this point. Connor McGregor, Storms in the building, and it just turned into this really special. night. But I happened to be downstairs doing some interview stuff when Mike Perry arrived. And he arrived and he was wearing a janitor's uniform. He was wearing, you know, the one piece and it said like Mike had his name to tag. And he said, what's with the outfit? And he said, I'm cleaning up. I'm here to clean up. And it was simple, but it was brought. And nobody was around to see it. Like, he didn't make this part of this. He didn't ring walk in this outfit. Like, you had to be behind the scenes when he arrived to see this. But Perry's just.

fun and Perry's not going to wilt. Most guys wilt to Nate Diaz. Nate is a very scary fire because he enjoys the fight and he doesn't get tired. That is a very intimidating, intimidating thing to deal with. But Perry's not afraid to get hit. Perry's not afraid of a fight himself. Perry doesn't mind if a nose gets broken or a tooth gets knocked out. So for me, to quote the Great Arrow Hawani, but that's the people's main event. Oh, thank you. It's nice to finally get credit for that one. I came up with that term. Now everyone uses it. 100%. If you look up in urban dictionary, it says that I came up with it, but no one wants to give me that credit. It's nice to finally get the credit. Thank you. I've credited you with that before, by the way. I've told a number

of people, as Errol Holwani says. So you've gotten the credit from me. Maybe it's the first time that you've heard it. Yeah, well, you don't listen to my reports anyways. I've been breaking these fights left and right. We have Jorge on the line. You want to talk to him? Not overly. I'm kidding. We don't have them. I don't really know what I would say. I'm I'm not trying to. I mean, it seemed like you had a bunch of questions for him. I'm just asking you, you know, do you think he has a show for one and two, do you think that he thinks he's fighting in the UFC? I would ask that, by the way, from a concerned standpoint, because he will never fight in the UFC.

But that is an argument. The argument is, does he think he's going to fight in the UFC? And if his answer to that is yes, we really should look into why. Why do you think? Who told you that? Because, again, there's. certain guys where their value is not the commodity of the punches and kicks. Part of their value is that they don't do the punches and kicks elsewhere. So if George thinks he's fighting, it wouldn't be chale teasing him. It would be very important to somebody get a hold of his manager and say, do you understand what's happening here? And do you understand it's not actually going to happen here? It is a weird one because I do know that they reached out to him to be on that card, that Netflix card,

and UFC said no. And so why are they, like what are they keeping him on the sidelines for if they're stopping him from getting opportunities. Well, and I had an interesting question, and George, George called me a liar for it. I feel like a liar is very strange, very strong words. I never call someone a liar because I understand that people could just have it wrong. But it had to do, and I use Usada and I realize it's not Usada anymore. Whatever the testing agency is, we'll call it Usada. But I had a question of, is he in that?

Is he in the pool? And that is public information that we could go. get, I haven't taken the time to do the research, but I'll ask you, do you know, is George in the pool? Is George an active member of the roster? Can I be honest with you? I think the pool is a work. I don't know how much, you know, credibility I linked towards it. So I, I understand that, but he's still either in it or he's not. All to say, I never check on these things. I never check on, so I don't. In short, I don't, but I never, ever, ever ask these questions because I don't even know what the rules are anymore and if it's real.

Yeah. You know, they do the gimmick with the jacket. I'm trying to tell you something big, Ariel. I'm trying to. Okay, tell me. You have to hear what I'm not saying. I'm handy, but you've got to hear what I'm not saying. What is it?

Tell me? Well, I'm saying this is where the adventuress comes in. George Mosvall is not under contract to the UFC. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't respect their wishes. I've had a number of fights, matches, commentary. I'm not under contract to the OSC, but I always go to respect their wishes, right? will always speak to somebody before I go and do it. But I'm wondering, does George know that?

Like, is George out of respect? Is that why he thought that the UFC could tell him to not do the Netflix? Or does he believe that he's under contract? Because George should get somebody to help him if he's not understanding. He is not under contract with the UFC. Then I wonder, just on a further level of is he in the pool? Because it was reported at one point that he is. Okay.

It was reported in the same week that Cowboys Soroni and George Mosphidal re-entered the pool. I'm just asking, did that? He's managed by your boy Ali now, so perhaps he can answer the question. All right. All right, you asked if I have a question of George. That would be it. I don't have like a great confrontation with George.

I don't even pretend that I have a great one with George. I am curious, though, as somebody that enjoys watching George, I haven't missed George, do something. I didn't do it back when he had the Pacific accent or the new Cuban accent. I didn't do it when he had the short hair or the long hair when he was skinny George or fat George. If he was boxing George or MMA George, I've always supported and watched George. But it's hard for me to guess what his next move is going to be if he's in the pool. Still the best. Still the goat.

Still got it. Yes. Love you, chill. Thank you. Goodbye. Chil P, everyone, joining us on a Monday afternoon. Is there anything better than that? By the way, if Chil was in the running for that program, why didn't they pick him?

Why would you not pick Chale? Seems like a mistake, if you ask me. He's some guy. He's some man for one man. He's jacked. He's got more juice in him than Tropicana. That was one of his great lines. And you know how you know that Chale is like an, an old.

OG Mazvedal fan because he calls him George, because it was a time where he was George Masvedal. Now he's Jorge Madvira. But there was a time. There was a time. God, I love that man. I love him. I absolutely love him. Sean Strickland v.

Hamzaa Chamaev goes down this Saturday in Newark, across the river, across the Hudson, at the beautiful Prudential Center, which is an underrated arena, if you ask me. It doesn't get the same type of love that, say, MSG, obviously, but it's a solid arena that has hosted some really good events. Also on Saturday, and our next guest in a matter of moments is going to talk to us about that, is a very, very, very important heavyweight title fight, a heavyweight title fight that has massive stakes attached to it. It's Fabio Wardley defending his WBO, a heavyweight title, against Daniel Dubois. And I can tell you, Daniel Dubois is going to join us on the program tomorrow, Dynamite Dubois,

I think for the first time ever. Fabio Ward lead, 20,0 and 1 coming off that big win over Joseph Parker. Interim title was on the line. He since became the actual belt holder, WBO, taking their belt away from Alexander Usset, going up against Daniel Dubois, who of course has fought and beat the likes of Anthony Joshua, one of the best heavyweights in the world. that fight is happening on Saturday at the co-op live. It won't be going head to head with the UFC event because it's happening in England and it's happening in the afternoon. But Frank Warren, who is the founder of Queensberry promotion, as always, has a ton going on.

He has one of the best heavyweight divisions, if not the best heavyweight roster in the game and the one who is going to be leading the charge and the not too distant future is Mosetama. Mosetama is the future. It's not a matter of if he will be the future. He is 100% the future. He will be the future. It's just when do we want to actually crown him, not even anoint him, not even coronate him. We are going to crown him at some point and he will be that guy. I have never been sure of a single thing that has ever come out of my mouth pertaining to combat

sports. An interesting thing is that his next fight was scheduled for July 25th at the O2, but over the course of the past week, we found out that Anthony Joshua is going to be fighting July 25th in Riyadh, and so we do wonder if he's going to remain on that date or fight against someone else. Now, an opponent had not been officially announced just yet, but I don't know if you want to go head to head, especially considering the fact that they are both fighting on the same platform, and that is the zone. After we speak to Frank Warren, who's going to be joining us in a matter of seconds here, we are going to run down all the news and notes from this past weekend. Everything that happened, in the cage, out of the cage, in the ring, out of the

ring, and a lot did happen. As I said on Saturday in Japan, Naoya Inouye, defeated Juno Nakatani. It was amazing for multiple reasons. There was nothing quite like watching big time fighting MMA boxing, I don't care what it is, while starting your morning, drinking your coffee, it just hits differently. I don't know what it is. You're fresh as a daisy. It's a beautiful spring day.

Kids are doing their thing. In fact, you could actually watch, I was watching Nakatani Inouye with my daughter. And I was trying to, when Inouye came out with the violinists, I was like, look at this. Look at this, Claire. Is there anything better than this?

What's better than this? Look at this. it was beautiful. In a way is a maestro. He's Picasso. He's Michelangelo. He's a magician out there. And Nakatani was game, man.

It was close. And not to say that that was a surprise, by far his toughest opponent, I think, to date. Look at this guy. Look at the speed. Look at the distance. Look at the punches and bunches. Look at the angles.

There's one clip. of in a way at some point missing a right hand and in the flow of the miss landing an uppercut. Look at that. We've got to watch that again. I want to watch it like three more times if we can.

He misses the right hand. He steps forward and he's still landing the uppercut. Left foot forward, big step, right foot off the ground, lands the left upper cut. What? Do you know how hard that is?

To have the power, to have the wherewithal, the presence to do that. Look at this. I couldn't stop watching this. That was unbelievable. And now the big talk is, do you do in a way versus Bam Rodriguez? Rodriguez would be moving up from 118 in a way at 122. He's getting big for 122s. You're going to move up to 126.

Will they be like, you know, two ships passing in the night? that to me is the biggest fight that you can put on. Do they do it? I don't know. But there was about 55 or so thousand people at the Tokyo Dome on a Saturday night watching two proud Japanese fighters going to, it was amazing. The pageantry, the entrances, Adam Smith, great on the microphone. Our friends over at Inside Boxing did a beautiful reaction video on Saturday morning for that fight. Go check it out on their channel.

It's on the inside boxing channel. And then they did one yesterday regarding what transpired on Saturday night in Las Vegas. And that to me was even more impressive. David Benavides moving up from 175 pounds to defeat Zerto Ramirez to become cruiserweight champion. I mean, look at the speed. Look at the power. This is a guy moving up for 170. Look at that.

Look at that speed. Look at the power. Oh my God. Benevides might be my favorite fighter to watch right now because he just stands in the pocket, doesn't back down and doesn't let up. Look at the actual speed. Look at how fast he is throwing those punches. That's the finisher right there. And there's reports of the injuries and how Zerto's doing. That's the bigger dude moving up. And he says, no mas. I am done. You see that. He shook his head. There's a self-thes. phone vantage point of that finishing sequence that is breathtaking. Look at that. That is the man moving up from light heavy weight. I mean, mesmerizing. David Benevita is the monster. He is outstanding. Outstanding. A man who has seen an outstanding fighter or two in his day is the founder of Queensberry Promotions, excuse me, always great to talk to the one and only Frank Warren, the best-dressed man in the sport of boxing, kind enough to join us on this Monday

evening. Hello, Frank. How are you? I'm fine here. Good evening to you, and I agree with what you just said there. How good is he? Oh, I thought about you being the best-dressed man. That's what I was talking about. Okay. I thought it was brilliant. Yeah, great, really, really good stuff. He's unbelievable, right? I mean, he is just something of the speed and the power. Hand speed. Hand speed is amazing. The shots he gets off. He's just, yeah, he's exciting.

And he's got many options. He's got Canello. He says, I think Canelo wants nothing to do with them. Obviously, there's Bivel, there's better BF out there. By the way, can I just ask you? I'm buzzing right now, Frank. I just want you to know, because as you know, my beloved Nottingham Force with a big win earlier today

against Chelsea at Stanford Bridge. He did. I watched it. Fantastic stuff. 3-1 against Chelsea. Are you kidding me? How nervous are you for your beloved arsenal again? Everyone's saying they're going to bottle it.

How are we going to win? We're going to win. Okay. I'm on it. I was there Saturday. I'm going tomorrow night for the Champions League game. We're in a good position and I expect us to be in the Champions League final and I expect us to win also the championship. Okay.

So you'll exercise all the demons. We will. We will. We've got good winning mentality. It'll be interesting tonight after this show. Man's such you're playing. Yes. And it's a big game.

hopefully Eleton will do the business, fingers crossed. But if not, we've got to make it, you know, we've got it's up for us to go out there, win every game and score goals. That's what we need to do. Well, a lot to be excited about as far as British sport is concerned. And obviously you have a big one on Saturday, co-op live, Manchester. Very, very tasty, very interesting heavyweight title fight, WBO champion Fabio Wardley against Daniel Dubois. Your thoughts on this matchup, how do you feel about it?

I love it. An all-British, well-titled fight is always an exciting affair. You know, two massive, massive punches. It'll be excitement. We called the show Don't Blink, and there's a reason for that. With the pile that these two guys have got, their styles, they both walk forward. None of them take a backward step, and I expect it to be from round one. They'll get down on it and let their bombs go.

Can I ask, how are ticket sales for this one? We're nearly sold out. We only got a few tickets left, but we're nearly sold out, and it will sell out. Okay, not surprised. The reason I asked that was I do remember a cheeky little tweet at the beginning of this process before the tickets even went on sale about supposedly struggling ticket sales. What was your reaction to that? Well, I actually laughed, but look, it's, you know, what can I say?

It was a strange, a strange tweet to say the least, especially as you say the tickets weren't even on sale. The proof will be in the pudding on Saturday night. When the cameras are there, you'll see the venue be sold out, and we're not giving tickets away. It's a funny old game, that boxing, huh? It is, but it's exciting, and it's fun, and it's fun at the moment. Lots of things going on, lots of noise. And what we're doing continuously is selling shows out with bums on seats.

You know, you look at our last show was sold out, the atmosphere was unbelievable. The show in Germany with our Jeep was sold out. Belfast, sorry not Belfast, Dublin sold out. Amazing fight. We've got a great show. The following week up in, in Doncaster at their football ground up there. With Dave Allen in, with Hergevich, again, the tickets are going marvelous up there.

You know, we're doing, you know, boxing's not broke. We're doing extremely well and putting really good quality shows on. in front of, in big arenas, in front of big crowds. Do you still have the same patience and motor for the shenanigans, for the noise, as you say, in the sport of boxing, or is there ever a time where you're like, you know what, I just want to be left alone. I've done enough. Well, I prefer to be left alone, but I enjoy the sport, and I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed a cut and thrust of it. And, you know, I've been doing this now. That's funny, I was just talking to someone earlier on. They asked me doing an interview, and I said the first show ever did was in 1977, which was an unlicensed show, as they called it back then. And that's how long I've been doing it. I'm into me, there's 49 years promoting. And I enjoy it.

And I love being involved with the fights, the fighters. That's all our focus. I always focus on what we're doing. I don't care what anybody else is doing. They do whatever they're going to do in spite of me. And I'll do what I'm going to do in spite of them. And I love competition. Without competition, it's boring.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. rising tide, as they say, lifts all the boats. Have you told yourself I'm going to do it by this age, by this year? Have you put that line in the sand? Well, I'm still doing what I'm doing, but I've got a great team behind them. You know, my son, George, he is the CEO of Queensbury, and he does a magnificent job. Him and his team, they've got a great team there,

some good, you know, various ages. Me, I'm the old guy, a couple of other oldens and not quite as old as me, but a lot of young guys as well. And they're fabulous, and I'm proud of what they do. You know, they work very hard, they're loyal, they're diligent, and the proof has been in the pudding of the shows that we've been putting on. We found out last week that Anthony Joshua is going to return on July 25th. I reported a week prior that Moses Atama was scheduled to fight at the O2 on July 25th.

What's going to happen to that date? He will probably fight now on the 8th of August, and that's what will happen. And look, let me say that. If he's got this warm-up fight coming up, against this guy he's fighting. Me, I'd love him to have had the warm-up fight against Moses. That would have been a great warm-up fight and a good test for him. Wow.

That might have nuked your Tyson Fury fight, though. It probably would have done. I'm going to be honest, it would have done. But anyway, it's what it is, and Moses is going to be out on that date. Moses is an exciting fighter. He's doing everything that's asked of him. He's 21 years old, was it, four months ago? He's got a great future in front of him.

And again, you know, we sold out with him in his last fight, and we're doing the same up on the 8th of August. Or he's fighting in London on the 8th of August. So it's, you know, these are exciting times, but, you know, for world boxing and certainly exciting times for British boxing. On the 8th of August, is that at the 0-2? That would be at the 0-2, yeah. You did have the 25th of July, right?

That's correct. That's correct. Were you upset that it was booked on the same day? I was, but you know what? I mean, we could have had a gun-in-to-head and all this crap, but, you know, it is what it is. And I'm mostly involved with Tyson. So, you know, that's the situation.

So we just move forward and keep moving forward. As I said earlier on, we moved forward. We've got a great, great show we'll have on the 8th. And, you know, Tyson, I want Tyson to get in there. For me personally, seeing Tyson and with AJ will prove what I've always felt that he has to beat him all day long. Back to Moses for a moment. Do you have his opponent yet? We're working on a couple of names.

I can't help you on that yet, Ariel, because until the contract signed, I don't like saying. Understood. I have done that in the past, and you know what happens? They fall apart and everybody, you know, has a whinge in a moment. So we're waiting until we get the contract signed. Fair to say, though, he'll be the main event. Oh, he's the main event, yeah. He's a main event fighter now.

Couldn't agree more. He's a main event fighter. Yeah, he is a main event fighter. You know, another fight I'd like to see him in with, and I would do it. If they're interested, it's against Sussex. Already, he's ready for that? Yep. Are they interested?

I haven't spoken with him about it. He's fighting his kickboxer, isn't he? Yeah. Do you think that's... Is it kickboxer or MMA? No, it's kickboxer. Are you interested in that fight? I'll watch it because I'm in the sport.

I'll watch it. It doesn't particularly interest me for what it is, no more than, you know, when Tyson had the fight against, what was his name? Francis and Gano. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, you know, it didn't interest me, but it turned out to be a good fight, actually. It was quite a good fight. I think because we, well, Tyson felt that, you know, he didn't train as hard as he could have done for it and the other guy, you know, he's a champion in what he does and he comes to fight. And he showed for a couple of rounds. And he had no footage to look at him to see how good he was or what he's, what his star was.

We never knew. It was just like in there and fighting. Whereas when AJ fought him, he had the luxury of having seen Tyson with him and spotting his weaknesses. The first time I ever sat down and spoke to you face-to-face, Frank, was in the summer of 23. It was before the Xi Le-Jang-Joe Joy's fight that was announced for later on that year.

And I remember, I'll never forget you talking about game-changer, game-changer. There's a game changer coming, all this stuff. And I'll be honest. In the moment, I was like, oh, this is promoter speak. Everyone talks about these things. It rarely lives up to the hype. But of course, we knew what you were talking about now, and it was a game changer.

And we're talking about Riyadh season and Turkey-A shaken. You were front and center for all that. Can you tell us, Frank, in the most transparent and honest way possible, you're usually that guy where you stand with Turkey and the Riet season crew because obviously there have been reports that there's been a bit of a falling out as of late. Well, the last time I'll see him was at the show at Tottenham. Tyson's show, we sat together, said hello and shook hands and I was sitting next to him and we

watched a fight together and afterwards got up in the ring to obviously try and we're trying to get something going with AJ who hadn't signed for the fight up until then. Tyson had signed and that was it. And that's the last time I've spoken with him. And, you know, look, it is what it is. And where am I with it? I'm doing what I always do. We're putting on great shows and I'll continue to do so.

Re-ad season for me was a blast. I enjoyed it. There was some great shows there. I mean, everybody cooperating to making work and I enjoyed it. I really did enjoy it. It was a good time. But, you know, things are what they are. And you've got to keep evolving.

on. Other than this Tyson fight, do you have any kind of working relationship with him or his team? We, well, they were talking about making Adjit, I'll see he put Twitter about Adjit fighting Oosick, Adjit's with us. So if that fight's going to happen, then we're going to have to work together on it and Sam, uh, same with Hamza Shiraz, uh, same thing. Are you suing them? Pardon? Are you suing them? I mean, it's well documented. I sent a letter to them. That's where it is. the moment. I can't really comment on on any of that in the moment. I don't want to because whatever happens is I'm not sure to keep my counsel to myself on that. I understand. Could I ask what was the breaking point? Like where did things go wrong? Because it did seem at

one point you were very close. We were. I felt we was very close, but we were renewing, renewing our deal to put more, to be involved in doing more shows there. But it just didn't happen and that was it. How do you feel about Zoufifft? of boxing so far, four or five months in? Truth is, I don't feel anything about it. I've seen the shows, and they announced a show in the UK, and I look on what it is. It's another competitor. It's another group involved in boxing.

I mean, this happens all the time. Over the years, I've seen people come in and go, I've seen some people come in and stay, but most of them, you know, it's whether you lost the course. and, you know, it's all about the quality and the fights that you put on. It's not me who determines, who determine who they are or what I am, it's the public who buy the tickets and view the fights. Do you think they'll last? Look, they've got plenty of money behind them.

They've got a big company behind them. You know, one thing I must comment on, the, I see, I'll watch someone who says, Senate hearings. And I think it was Nick, Nick Carl came out with a thing about the safety record of boxing and how long it had been running ZUFC and there hadn't been any fatalities, which is great. And then he compared it with boxing, which you can't really, because I don't know how many, I mean, you probably know better than I. That's your business. I don't know how many UFC shows they do. What they do? 30 a year? 43. But that's recently, that's in the last like maybe eight or nine years, 10 years. It hasn't

So if you average it out, what, 30 a year? Yeah. And I mean, 20 years, you know, it is what it, you know, that's how many shows they run. You know, I think last year, just in the States, there was 19 shows, you know, in various shows, all different sizes. So, of course, you know, there's more boxing shows, you know, far, far more.

I mean, you know, I think, you know, how many boxing shows are on compared with how many UFC shows. I mean, it's a fraction. So, of course, it'll be, there won't be as many injuries and so forth. But boxing's not broke, it does well. I know so much about what's going on in the States. I'm looking forward to us when we're doing our promotions out there, which we've been talking about,

and we'll be making an announcement soon. We just want to get our fights undue. And I've been out to the States before, you know. The Showtime Showbox series, I launched out. years and years ago with Jay Larkin and Gary we launched that the amount of I've done lots of shows out of the States

you know brought NAS out there took Joe Kowzaki out there took Bruno out there you know lots and lots of fighters over the year promoted lots of good fighters like Tapia Barrera all of them over in the States and it'd be nice to come back and do some more do you think that'll happen this year is that the plan it will happen this year

okay the man behind you Muhammad Ali is at the center of all this his name his legacy his grandson was at that hearing as well how do you feel about the way this is progressing it seems inevitable do you think it would be good for the sport

if this new bill is introduced or do you think it would be bad for the sport I how do I feel about it I mean the hearing when you got one of the senators at the hearing he was crossing examining and then was asking, asked him to bring a UFC show to his state. I mean, if a politician

had done that in the UK had been thrown off the committee. It feels like a formality, right? It feels performative. You know, it's a formality and I do, and that's what's happening. And, you know, people got to make choices. But that's what, you know, you make a choice. People will make a choice what they want to do. Fighters will make a choice. They'll look at contracts. They'll look at what's going on and and make a decision. And that's it. And the governing bodies will continue. I think they'll continue,

and I'll certainly continue working with them and doing what we're doing. Why do you think they want to do this? Why do you think they're pushing for this? It's a public company, and a public company has to keep expanding and keep coming up with ways to grow the business and make sure their profits increase for their shareholders.

So they're, you know, they are where they are with the sports. They do a brilliant job with WWE and the UFC and that, and they're on to something else now. It's been a lot of... Boxing, boxing is different than all these sports. Boxing is a sport that's a pedigree and goes back, you know, puts it, 200 years, whatever it is. And that's what it is and the way it runs.

And, you know, it's interesting times. And I'm a big believer as well with the weight situations, you know, talking about fatalities in boxing. The reason a lot of fatalities happened was because boxers, when there were no junior weight divisions, were having to, for example, jump from middleweight to light heavyweight or, you know, or got from lightweight straight into fighting a well-of-weight, nothing in between.

And sometimes you weren't big enough for that, but it could kill you to make the weight. say for example lightweight and you went up you struggle and the waitings were on days of shows a lot of and certainly in the UK

a lot of effort and work went on working with with experience neurosurgeons and dotters and so forth to ensure that we try and make it a dangerous sport as safe as safe as possible and those junior divisions

are important in that aspect because the fact of life is, you know, what is the biggest problem for boxers making weight is dehydration and the brain sits in fluid. And if you're dehydrating, that fluid, you've got less and less fluid that your brain's in. And you're getting hit and you're getting caught. That's moving, you know, you're having a lot of problems with it.

So that's why you have junior divisions. It's not, I don't believe all this is going back to the, going back to that. That's where I'm at, unless you're just saying these are the only divisions we're interested in guys fighting. But that's why we have junior divisions and I'm all for that moving forward.

I've been into sport a long time. I'm not just the promoter. I started out. I work fighters' corners. I work in all my young fighters, work with their trainers and works in the corners as a cornerman. So, you know, I do like to believe I know what I'm talking about.

Oh yeah. And that's why I love and appreciate your insight so much. Can I ask, how do you think Eddie's faring in the war of words with Dana White? I've got to be honest, I don't watch all that stuff. You know, it's like in the office, the youngsters, look at these, and they've shown me stuff. And I look at it, and that makes me smile, you know, look. All I've found out in this business, people don't buy tickets to come and see me. They buy tickets to come and see great fights.

That's all they're interested in. All the stuff that goes on in the outside. It's a bit of colour and whatever. But you know what? At the end of the day, all people want to do is see the fights. They didn't want to see Don King. They didn't want to see Bob Aram. They wanted to see the shows that they put on.

And that's why we are so successful in what we do because we're giving the fans what they want. Quality fights, quality cards, and that's attracting big crowds. The biggest fight crowd in the world last year was at Wembley for Usik v. Dubois, a show we put on, the biggest live audience in the world. world. Yep, that's 100% true. Could I ask, I'm not asking you to announce the date or tell us the

date, but could you tell us, is there actually a date locked in for AJ Fury? There's a, there's a couple of dates that are floating around, and it'll depend on what happens with AJ on his fight in July. Is there a location locked in? There's a, I understand it's a couple of locations, but that's not for me. for to announce. No, no, I'm not asking you to announce. I just wanted to know if there was something like that. You know, a lot of people for obvious reasons say it's an English, you know, it's a British

fight because they're too British. And it would, you know, the biggest gate that would be generated would certainly be in the UK. There's no doubt about that. So in the paperwork, is there a date and location? There is a date, but is a confidentiality clause in the contract store. The only reason I asked this is because when it was announced, there was a lot of eye rolling because it's like how many times, like what kind of announcement is this fight is happening but there's no date no city no venue attached to it when

Tyson signed for it's signed for a while when he signed for it was on the understanding that they both have a fight which i think a joe was going to fight in april as well but unfortunately because that dreadful tragic accident that killed two of his friends and his team that got pushed back and that's why he's fighting in july and so that's it sort of knocked it all a little about a whack. Okay. Will Tyson have another fight in the interim now? That, he's

talked about it and that may happen, we'll see. Okay. Would you like for that to happen? He needs to be, Tyson's a guy who needs to be busy. You know, when he's in the gym, he goes to the gym for a number of reasons. Obviously, to keep fit. The other thing is for his mental, his mental

well-being. He likes being in a gym. And when he's in, when he's training for a fight, he needs to like a lot of fighters, they want to date and end date, they want to see what they're aiming for, and that's what he wants them. You know, if you think this fight's going on on the 25th of

July, so you've got August, September, October, you know, you're sort of at the end of October, maybe November, before this fight gets on. Okay, so there's a chance we may see him again before this fight. I think there may be a chance of that, yes. Okay, can you explain something to me?

AJ is a matchroom fighter, matchroom has a deal with DeZone, Tyson, Queensberry guy, Queensberry has a deal with DeZone. How is this going to be potentially on Netflix? How would DeZone be okay with that?

Well, because they're being satisfied financially. Okay. And obviously that's a much bigger platform, so it makes a lot of sense for you guys. It's a big platform. Yeah, there's no doubt about that, but you know, they've done a few

big fights, but boxing is not just about the big fights. To get to the big fight, you've got to bring the guys through. Sure. That's important. You know, it's the journey that you, I mean, you know, that's the journey that you go on with them. I mean, if it wasn't for the small fights,

I mean, Fabio Wogley, who didn't have any amateur background, wouldn't be around, would he? You know, he's world champion. He learnt on the job and got to where he's at, but you need to bring the guys through. I need to get exposure. I need to be seen, seen by the public. Can I pitch you an idea?

Go on. The winner. of Dubois Wardley fights Moses Tatama August 8th at 02 That's a good idea Let's see what happens Let's see who wins Is there a chance?

There's a chance Honestly the thing is Look we've got most of the heavy weights With us Sure Barra Busik's got Usis got to defend his titles

Mandatris He's WBC mandatory as against Agi And he'll have to do that next Or vacate the bell And the other The other two bell the other two organization as well. Both our guys are in those that are also the manageries.

We make the fights happen. No one's ducking anybody. I mean, Fabio fighting Daniel. That's like the number one fighting and number two now. My only concern about that is obviously Fabio and Moses are under the same stable, right? Well, if that fight ever happened, you know, and fights do happen for the reason. They happen for money. or they called for, who knows, down the road, we'll see what happens.

But then if it does, then it's a decision that the two fighters got to make. But clearly you think that young Moses is ready for fights like that, right? You just mentioned Usik, so obviously you'd be ready. I do. I do. I think he's, I think he's, I mean, and I'm not, my reputation is not for rushing fighters. I take my time, but I genuinely think that this young man is something. He's probably, at his age, is probably the most all-round fighter that I've been involved with. And it's a bit like when NAS was that age. You know, Nas was flying.

He won the world. He's the youngest ever winner of a world title from the UK. But this boy, this division he's in, the power he's got, and the boxing brain he's got the boxing IQ. I think he's so exciting. I'm he is must see TV for me he like I stop what I'm doing I have to watch this young man I love everything about him and you know what I love most about him Frank his his his his wisdom he is so mature for his age it's really a joy to speak to him

he is and he's a very mature and uh you know he's sort of come out his shell a little bit over the last few years but that's exactly what you're saying he's so corrects he's got such a natural you know a natural saginess about him And when he gets older, he's going to be, you know, he'll be something special. I don't just mean as a fire. I mean, as a human being, I expect him to be a real role model for boxes around the world and certainly a sports role model in this country. And what I'm looking forward to doing this year, and it will happen this year,

is that we will bring him to the States. Wow. To fight? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Well, if he's fighting in August, I mean, it would have to be shortly thereafter. November, December, we will bring him. him out. Oh my dear. I must be

there for that. He's going to be parading around with the WBO title. We'll see what happens. We'll see where we are. But whatever it is, it'll have to be a big fight because you'll be making his announcement in person. And it will be exciting. It will be exciting.

I'll let you go in a moment. I just wanted to get an update on Paris. Obviously, you had to cancel a show last minute an unfortunate situation. Could you tell us where things stand with Lawrence O'Cole and also when you may go back to Paris? Well, we're looking at Paris after the World Cup, because obviously the dates were all taken up now.

And Lawrence, who unfortunately failed his Varda test, he will have to go before UKAD, who have the hearings here. He will have to go before them to explain after he provides his bean sample, if it matches the A sample, what happened? He did, and it's no secret. He had a terrible bicep injury in a previous, sorry, the fight before last, he had a real problem with his bicep. So I don't know if that's part of it or not, but I'm not a doctor,

and that's up to him and his team to explain. And it was a shame for all the fighters and the people who bought tickets for it. As far as Tony Yoker's concerned, he will be fighting in a couple of weeks' time. Okay. Frank, your agenda. Thank you so much. Really appreciate the insight and time. always, good luck this weekend. Limited tickets available. So don't believe... Very limited. Very limited.

Capital V. Don't believe the internet. There it is. There's the lineup once again. Tremendous stuff, as always. Can't wait for it. Beautiful venue in Manchester. Hopefully, Man City loses, and you can rock up there with the Arsenal Red, loud and proud. I don't know if you'd want to stir up the audience, but it's going to be a great show, and I wish you all the best, and good luck to your gunners as well. Thank you very much and appreciate it. Ariel as always. It's a great show.

Thank you so much. The one and only Frank Warren, always a pleasure to have him on and really interesting stuff there regarding his relationship with the Rietz season folks, obviously Zoufa boxing, Tyson and AJ whole Tyson Fury fight again.

A lot up in the air. What isn't up in the air is the fact that that is a phenomenal main event on Saturday, Fabio Wardley, who's all action and at times has pulled out victories from the jaws of defeat out of his back pocket. Remember Justice Hooney? Around a year ago at Portman Road. And congratulations to the Ipswich Town supporters, including our very own Arnold Allen. He's not really our very own, but I consider him

one of our own. He's one of our own. Arnold Allen, he's one of our own. I wave the Canadian flag, of course, because he is married to a Montrealer. But I did see a a fun little clip of Ed Sheeran. A lot of the, uh, the tweeters were giving him stick saying he just showed up now that they got promoted again. Come on. You know,

the, the fan gatekeeping is a little nauseating, you know, just, just let people be happy. How about that? You know? Like, like yesterday,

PT was rooting for the Raptors. I wasn't saying, oh, where were you all season when the Raptors were doing their thing? No, he was rooting for the Raptors. He was talking smack about the Cater. Mario, man. What the fuck is this?

And I was saying to him, hey, Pizzi, we welcome you. We welcome your support. Wait, who's we? The country of Canada. What was it that you called me for the Hawks? A frontrunner, haven't watched any games all season? Who, who?

You? About what, what? About the Atlanta Hawks, I think it was frontrunner. No, but Ptzee? You watch none of the games. I'm just confused at the we. Your team has a game tonight. You're talking about the Raptors.

Who the fuck is we? That's a good point. How hype are we that it's the Sixers? I'm so freaking hyped. Can I just tell you guys something? A development that has transpired in the last 15 minutes? Yes. I just got a text.

Mid show 15 minutes ago. Yeah. And it was one question, one punctuation. Oh, fuck. I think I know one in my bit. Yeah. Game one. Game one.

question mark? Yeah. That's it. That was the question. And you said yes. I just, I needed clarity. No, you asked the follow-up? I needed clarity. Yes, exclamation point. You know what my clarity question in response was? Which day? Who me? Oh, good. Very good. All right. Congratulations. When I tell you, when I was a kid, my buddy will also be there. When I was a kid, I used to look at the crowd at MSG and there were people wearing suits. And I was like, these people could just like, wear their work clothes and go watch the Knicks in the playoffs. Now you're one of those people. It's just great.

It's tough. PT, how are you feeling over there? Okay, let me... Yeah, sure. Wait, so that's a flex. Congratulations. No, no, no, no. I'm just asking.

My buddy is also going to be at game one. But here's... Shout to your buddy. My buddy is going to be at game three as well. He's infiltrating. Oh, that's smart. He's infiltrating. VPN?

No, maybe he has some friends who are also Sixers fans from Philly. This is so soft, by the way. since when was Philly's so soft? You guys familiar with this? I like this that they're doing. What's going on? What's happening? Reheat me on the Royal League.

I remember it was some shit going on a couple of years ago. First of all, you look fantastic. The mustache is amazing. The hat is even better. Thank you. Thank you for everything. Not a Raptor's hat, huh? No, no, no, no, no.

We're off. You guys are G1 Glazer. Beetzie was chatting mad shit. About the Raptors last night. No, about the calves. I don't remember much of it. He's going to beat up some of the calves. It was a whole thing.

I think it was James Hardin. He wants the smoke. James Harden specifically. I remember one my hour and I was like, you know what? I think it's time to go to bed now. The best was the 15 rant text from Pizzi and then the Rick, the Raptors are putting in work, bro.

Rick, it's tied. How about the Pizzi? It's time to go to sleep. All right, so here's the deal, Pizzi. This is what's going on. Well, wait, before we get to that, I do want to acknowledge the fact that Pizzi is doing today's show on a bank holiday. This is a really big deal. We had to sort of convince him this and that. he was very, very upset that he had to work.

So he only mentioned it 15 times yesterday. So I do want to acknowledge that and tell him that we appreciate. What bank? What is a bank holiday? What bank? The main one. All right. So here's the deal, Pizzi.

The 76ers of Philadelphia, soft. Yeah. Have released tickets to the playoff games against the Knicks. But they are not letting residents outside of like the Philadelphia, South New Jersey area, buy the tickets because they don't want to be, you know, over. overshadowed or overpowered by the voices of the New York Knicks fans because the cities are so close and Knicks fans traveled last time and really did. No, no, no. You're not even explaining this correctly.

What really happened was two years ago when we laid the Smackdown on their candy asses, game six sounded like MSG East. It sounded like we were at MSG as the Knicks beat them on the road. What's the beef, though? What's the beef? One of the players doesn't like the player. I'll tell you about the beef. Hold up. Thank you, thank you.

And so Joel beats the Celtics on Saturday. He empties the clip. By the way, has 24-inch dubs shown his face yet? Yeah, he's super-shadowed. As he's shown his face. Yeah, all them guys, all the ones who always try to shit on me, even when a Boston team doesn't be one of my teams. Like, Blue Jays lose to Dodgers, here they all come out.

Bills get eliminated by the Bronjas. Oh, there he is. There's the bitch ass. This guy, this guy, thank you. Thank you. This dude and Wasabi, 89 or whatever on Twitter. I don't know if it's the same guy. Yeah, it is.

It is the same guy? Double bitch ass, all right? I gotta tell you, you're taking it that personally that you remember the handle? You should not do that. I see that. People are going to use this against you. I could not do that less. Anyway, I couldn't care less about the Celtics fans.

I couldn't care less about all you guys. Yet you remember their handles. This is a bad precedent. Because you revel in my misery, all right? And the misery happens two to three times a year. So you revel in it. I see you. I'm annoyed by you.

You annoy me. And now for once, you get to see how it feels like because you've lived the charm life up to this point. But now it's all crumbling down for all of you. All of you. Patriots, gutter. Bruins gutter, Red Sox gutter. You're all losers. Patriots gutter.

Total gutter. Super Bowl. Gutter trash. Yeah, they embarrass themselves. And they become the laughing stock of the league now. Nevertheless, Joel Embed beats the Celtics on Saturday, flopping all over the gaff, right? He was.

He empties the clip. He's Willis Reed out there He's like he can't even walk All right They've got no bench Much respect Peace and love, peace and love He says in the post game

He says Hey I just want to tell everyone out there Please don't sell your tickets to Knicks fans I got you If you need the money I got you Please don't do it Soft What are you worried about

No I respect the play from Jim And then the team puts out a statement If you purchase tickets From 212 718 New York IP We are going to cancel the purchase and give you the money back. That is soft.

That is soft. Joel being like, yo, come support our asses. We just beat the two seed. We don't want it to sound like a next game in here. I like the team denying your purchase is insane. Okay,

I actually thought it was good. Why do you guys say it's soft? You're soft. If someone's trying to buy tickets to go down to the game, you have to allow them to do that. Your own fan should support it. Guess what? Be good enough to where your fans don't want to sell the tickets.

How about that? Don't be such a little. loser team to where your fans want to give away their tickets and make a few extra dollars. How about that? I like the Joel. Soft. I don't like the I don't like the Sixers, did not. Let me tell you one team that.

Is he not fucked up? Like I saw him all over the place at the end of that game during the night. He's, he always looks up. Trust the process, bro. Trust the process. Then two years ago, P.C., we played them, beat them in six games. He deliberately injured Mitchell Robinson. He pulled his leg down out for the series.

Oh, yeah. Pulled his leg down. Mitch is a demon. He's good. he's back, no problem, got fine 50K, it doesn't matter. But then in 2019, 2019, he got into a massive brawl with Cat when Cat was on the Timberwolves. So those tweets have come up as well. They got into like a huge fight, like a huge brawl, like it was like, it was like, I think we even broke it down like frame by frame.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like massive brawl. Oh, did we break it down? Yeah, I think we did. I think we were like, do you like the technique here? Like, I think we went to one of those. I do remember that. I do remember that, 2019, ESPN days. There was a rear naked choke.

There was a whole thing. There's a lot there. There's a lot there. Most of them can't play for bands, though. Nah, you'd piece them up, Pizzi. We know this. What was going on on your couch last night, Pete? You were dying to fight an NBA player.

Just had six damn bears. I think you'd fight him sober, though. That's all good. I mean, if he came on me to really well, that's fucking rear-neged-choke-off. I think Pizzi's got him. James Hardin. I had a prop back. that he'd score over 20 points.

That's where I was annoyed with him. That's where he specifically one way or her. Oh, okay. All right. It makes sense. You versus Big Q, could you imagine that showdown? Who's that? Quill and Sal killed.

Are you coining this? Big Q? I was looking at his... I like Big Q. I don't know. The inventor of sex, is that what that T-shirts said? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What age is he?

It doesn't matter. If you've got a stash like that and hair like that and sellies like that... He has a better stash to me. I'm not a nearly folk to look to... up again, GC. I took it in too narrow. I nearly had to get rid of all things. No, you're overthinking it. Don't go too narrow. Just let it be. That's what I was thinking. I said to a line, you know,

can I get away? Like, I mean, this is getting a bit fucking narrow here. You're still in good territory. You're still right. You got to keep the five o'clock shadow. You got to keep that trim. Don't let that get too long. You get narrow and narrow. You start to overcompitate. All of a sudden, you've got a Hitler stash, and you don't want that. That's what we're thinking. Yeah. At some point, you just have to, you just have to,

You know, cut ties and lose it, but for now it works. I had a friend who asked me recently, he said, what's the $30 million for the kitchen scrap? Like, what's the Genesis? I said it'll take me too long to text that. Now he's going to ask me, because he's a massive man. His name is Jason Tackerman. He's a massive P.C. Carroll fan.

Now he's going to ask me about the new library of PT drops, which really I've been holding in my back pocket. He's sitting off from the ring of days. This is from the ring of days. from 2024. Oh, is it? Oh, yeah. So that is ring or day.

No, no, it was April of 2024. I get a voicemail from Pizzi. And I don't know if he thinks that like aliens have taken over my life or if there's some sort of weirdness. But, uh, I mean, like it starts like this. What's going on? Yeah, so it's just sort of. And we've broken into the three parts. That's just like the hello.

And then he starts to get really, really worried that something has happened to me. Ariel, man. What the fuck is this? And then he comes to the conclusion that AI has taken over. Like some AI shit. Like, I don't. What happened? What happened?

I rang your phone. And I went to like a voice message. It was like, the person you were calling. But I thought it was your voice. And I was like, hang on, this is his voice. But it's not quite his voice. He's AI and his voice message. I was very confused.

You weren't reaching out to him about something you were just calling him. And then his voicemail message. I like to call him when I'm shit-faced. Wow. It's been a decade old tradition. Yesterday, I was in the shower around 745. I have six missed calls from Pizzi. Oh, so it's going to be like that.

And I look, all right, it's 7. 30. It's 12.30 over there. This is going to be great. This is great. Mid-conversation. You mind if I pull out a heater real quick? No, I don't mind.

I'm 3,000 miles away. Where are you right now? I'm just outside my house. how many of you had? I don't know, like 15. Oh, bank holiday tomorrow. Okay, cool. What's a bank holiday?

He thought it was trying to be getting sick. He was like, go on, this is what you're doing. This is him saying, oh, yeah, don't they have a clause in the contract? I can't work on bank holidays? No. What a time. What a time. We beat Liverpool.

We've established champions league team next year. Then we does lowly spores on Shadow Jordan, get a big victory against Austinville. The corpse of Asthmila. Let's be honest. Yeah. Well, we have a double Carol victory on the same day. I mean, what wasn't to celebrate? You know what I mean?

It was a fantastic time. Well, it's great to have you here on this bank holiday. We do have a lot to get to, guys. And I might have... Great to be hard. I might have a basketball game to go to here. Let me just... Okay.

All right. Let's talk about 328 real quick, shall we? We spoke about this with Chale, who may or may not want to fight Jorge Mazzvedal or George Mazzvedal or George Mosvedel in the future is still unclear about that. How did Luis Palomino do?

He won via third round, ground, ground, and pound. That was going to have to work in my rotation. I was dying back here when he said. Cheo killed that. Chelle was great today. Give me one detail about the event. It was Miami. Yuel Romero was on the car.

Luis Palomeo was there. I did remember that. How did Luis Palomino? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he really got me with that because, like, he could have asked for Yuel. Oh, for sure. For sure.

He went off the grid. It was so good. And then you started up on some long conversation. No, he's getting into like the... Is Jorge's name... Is George, he called him, George. Is George's name on the checks, on the bottom? Does he sign it?

How am I supposed to know that? You ask a too many question? He's like, it's chill. You think I weigh more than George Mosvado? I thought so. What did he say his old accent was? He said, before he speaks with the Cuban accent. Yes, yes, yes.

What was he called his first accent? Who knows? Oh, Joe. On Wednesday, and I know you guys spoke about it as well on Thursday and Friday. We talked about the Sean Strickland stuff and the shooting. A lot of people were upset. They get very upset about this.

They were upset that we didn't stress that Sean, which I did say, by the way, and we did play his comments, if he got jumped, if he got jumped. So it's like, hey, it's all good. If he gets hit first, he's a lot to shoot someone, which obviously is, you know, a little bit extreme. Sorry, what's the clarification here? Oh, you guys didn't say, you never said that the only. only reason Sean would shoot

Hamza is if he got jumped first. Good. Okay. Now that that's out there, I feel no different, but I'm glad we clarify. Yes. Anyway, Hamza was asked about these comments at his media day, which I do believe

happened on Thursday. Here's what he had to say. Even said if you jump him, he's going to shoot you guys and stuff like that. Has anything you said pissed you off or upset you? Bro, he didn't shoot any chickens in the world. bro, how are we going to shoot the human?

No idea about this. Strong? Are there any security concerns for you leading up to this? Have you talked to your team about, like, you know, watching your back a little differently? He's, you know, obviously made some serious threats. Ariel Hawani was even saying like, hey, we're worried about how this can go down. Where is your head at? Is that just, that's just all noise?

I don't know. I don't think so the guy wants a real war outside of the cage so if he wanted he would be dead already so regarding the first line Pizzi I think he was trying to imply that he's a chicken

but he was saying hey you know he doesn't chew chickens either I don't know isn't he just saying like he wouldn't even like hunt he wouldn't even like harm an animal how is he going to shoot me like how is it going to come after me I think that's what he's open into interpretation

regardless he seems very unfazed, right? He seems very unfazed by all of this. He seems very there is like a there's sort of a terrifying nature to his delivery, right? The calmness is very terrifying, yes. The delivery, the tone, the voice.

Your image of Hamzaat, and the reason this all works, what Sean Strickland is doing to rile him up, is because Hamza is live wire, loose cannon, amped up, I smash everybody, I kill everybody. So when you see Hamzat being like, you know, if he wants war, he has war, like,

it's terrifying because it implies this kind of like comfort with what Sean Strickland is saying, not being scared, not being agitated, and that is scary. That is also scary. There's a version of that that works. So Sean then said via Twitter, wrote via Twitter via X, the UFC is trying to limit my interactions with the dog. Listen, I will say this now. I will not be controlled by a third world dog. If I find there is unequal treatment between our camps, I will walk to the lobby and wait for him. Control your whore or don't. I don't care. Let the chips fall where they may.

This is America. My understanding is Sean is upset by some limitations, some restrictions being put. I think all within good reasons for security, for, you know, the interest of the card remaining intact, the main event remaining intact. But he seems to be very, very upset. And he's using very choice words to describe the way in which he feels. feels about Hamzad and about the situation. He also tweeted this, which was on Friday as well, no, excuse me, on Saturday, the fight week, sorry Friday, the fight week will be me in handcuffs.

The fact that there is this goat effer who shouldn't even be allowed to be in America making threats, you think I give a flying F about some stupid goat effer? Okay, so what are the threats? The fact that he said that they would like, like the threats were, I don't know. I think somewhat benign. To me, when I hear about handcuffs and all this other stuff, that's why I asked the question to chill that I want to pose to everyone else. It feels self-destructive. Is this, like, do fans react to this by saying,

this is Stone Cold Steve Austin that's going to end up in handcuffs and he's going to, like, do this for America? Or is it like, hey, I'm going to try to do something to try and rule myself out of this fight? because again, as we said to Chale, you get away, you have the best way possible to settle this. On Saturday, for 25 minutes, you will be locked in a cage with one other human being and that's a referee just to ensure that nothing sort of foul happens,

but for all intents and purposes, you can do a lot of bad things to this man. Why are you threatening to be arrested beforehand? You could fight him in five days. You can actually fight him and hurt him and break his orbital and knee him and kick him and do all kinds of nasty, horrible things to him. What's with these threats of being arrested beforehand?

That's the part that I don't get. And that's the part that I wonder, like, is there more to it? Is there something else going on here? Or is this just his form of trash talk and selling a fight? I think it's that. You think it's that? Is there any chance when he's saying, like,

it'll be me in handcuffs, like the UFC will be limiting him in ways, like not actually getting arrested? No, I think he's saying the other thing. I think he's saying, I'm going to do something so bad, I'm going to get arrested. I don't think he's just chatting shit. I don't think he's going to do anything that's going to warrant that.

Anything we say here is an amateur psychoanalysis of Sean Strickland, so allow me to do that. First of all, let me say for the record, Hamzat Shamaev, he's responding to Hamzat Shamaev saying if he jumped him, he would shoot him. Because that clarification is required apparently for everybody, so I'm putting that one back out there. I rather, there's times where I've thought Sean Strickland has been somebody who, who I could think would try to self-sabotage. In this scenario, what I honestly believe, and again, amateur psychoanalysis here, is that I think Sean Strickland is broadcasting to the world

and potentially himself as well. I will not be bullied by Hamzaa Tshamayev. No matter what he says he's going to do, no matter what everybody speculates that he's going to be able to do to me, I will be able to do 10 times worse to him. He will not have the upper hand. He will not believe me.

He will not do whatever these people believe he's going to do or he says he's going to do, I will do worse. I will not be bullied by this man. And so, because you have to admit, the speculation, the talk of this fight, right? Every time somebody talks about this fight, it's like, ah, Hamza's going to come in there and rip his head off and they're going to do this and he's going to do that. Sean Strickland is letting the world know, no, no matter what it takes, no matter what the price is, no matter what the consequences, no matter if the UFC wants me to not do X, Y, Z,

I will not be bullied. I will not be taken out by this man. I will do whatever it takes. And again, as I said last week when we talked about it, this works for me. It is working for me. I care more about this fight, the more this rhetoric continues. Do I believe any of it? Do I think Sean Tricklin's going to shoot him?

No, I don't. But the more that this continues to get heated, the more that I think that this has the potential for triggering Hamza at Shamaev or for Sean Strickland to lose his cool, it's working for me. You don't think there's any part of him that wants out? No. there could be, but I think in this scenario it's more trying to convince everybody else and himself, this man will not do what you say he will do to me under no circumstances.

Even if I have to be in handcuffs, even if I'm going to jail, even if I have to kill somebody, this man will not do what he's calling him a phony. Yeah, a fraud. He's calling the bluff, right? Whenever we talk about Hamzad or think about Hamzad, it's about how violent he is, how aggressive he is, what he's going to do, he's going to rip his head off. I've seen this guy in the gym and he beats up everybody. It's all about Hamzat's aggression.

I think Sean is just matching that, meeting that in his own way, right? He's trying to say, whatever you think of Hamzaa Tchamayev and what he's going to do, I will do worse. And I'm into it. You've convinced me. Okay, I get it. I don't think he actually will end up shooting or wants to shoot Hamzaa Tchamayev definitively. He's not going to shoot Hansa Tchamayev this week. Yeah.

Do you think there's a chance... Not this week. Do you think that there's a chance that they are... I don't know, that they cross past in some way, shape, or form that leads to a brawl. We've seen brawes before. I think there will be drama in some way. A lot of posturing, you know? You're going to see it on Twitter and Instagram and the press conference and the face-offs and everything like that.

But, like, in terms of things that stops the fight from happening and where Sean Strickland ends up in a jail cell, I don't think it's going to get taken that far. this is the one downside of Strickland escalating the stakes though, right? Because now you set an expectation. Now you've set an expectation where it's like, if I see Hamzat, it's going to escalate. Whereas Hamzat's been very cool, right? Hamzat's been very low-key about it. Like, if he wants war, he gets war, you know, that type of deal. Like he's putting the onus on Strickland, and Strickland has rightfully kind of like seen that and escalated.

Now if they cross paths, I almost do feel like if Strickland might feel an urge to, do something, you know, kind of a prompt. It would be a shame if they don't face off. They have to face off. I don't know, man. Put 10 security guards. Do that scene. I love that. John Fury, the periscpex. Oh, I love that. Put Dana and then... No, no, no. The Tyson Lewis

scene? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah. The wall. Have a wall of security guards. Love it. I think, Pee, you were talking about the misfits scene, right? The John Fury one where he's just banging VATTSI. Not Tyson Fury, Tommy Fury and KSI. Yeah. Oh, they put them in the glass box.

Now, fuck that. Get security cards out there. That would be pretty damn cool, actually. They have to face off. Do you not think that Strickland always kind of, I think he uses this as a way to get himself armed up for a fight week. Yeah. He never really has like any kind of major beef with these guys.

Suddenly the fight gets nearer and he gets, it's almost like he positions himself like this guy is the opposite of what I am. Like my culture is so different. And he did this with Israel at a sanya as well. with the dog stuff, all that kind of stuff. Drickus Duplessi, he kind of tried a bit with him, and Drickus threw up back his way, and he did not like that one bit.

I feel like he has to escalate the stakes for himself to draw the best performance out of himself. And we saw that work with Israel, and we saw the Australian people lap that up when he got that win. I think he's positioned himself here as the antithesis of whatever Hamzaa Shmoev is to stimulate his own fan base and to give him more of a reason to fight. This is just not about a belt.

that this is about me fighting for freedom and who I am and this kind of stuff. That's how I read it. The thing that I'm truly intellectually stimulated by beyond the trash talk aspect is did the UFC actually have a conversation with him? What did that conversation sound like? What was that conversation? And is there going to be a penalty for Sean Strickland flagrantly disregarding that? Because he has broadcast that he will, I expect them to. As I said, we talked about it last week and I said, they have nothing over.

over him. They can't, the worst thing they could do to Sean Strickland is what? There is no consequence for this. Federal fucking prison. That's if he gets the, that's if he gets the heater out. But I don't, I don't think that the UFC can hold him accountable for any of this, nor would they, right? It's building the fight. And so I wonder, I wonder if he continues to escalate it, what they'll do, if anything. I expect nothing. And so that's the most fascinating kind of part to me. Well, Hamzad isn't backing down, trying to hit Sean where it hurts. He did tweet this afterwards. You can cry, that's okay, for your father make you a girl.

Yikes. And here's another tweet. This picture shows everything who is the man, who is the girl. Jesus. So who knows? I mean, a lot of engagement on those tweets, so a lot of people saw them. it's going to be an interesting week. It is going to be an interesting week.

It's transformed how we feel about the fight week. Rick is 100% right in that. I keep going back to it. It has completely changed how we feel about this fight. Honestly, I think people are looking at this fight and say, I don't think it's going to be eventful later way. Yeah. I don't think it's a great style matchup to serve up for a spectacle,

but this has added a completely new development to it. And maybe it says something about how sick we all are that we're running up. You're spot on with that piece. because right now, Hamza al-Shimaev is minus 600. There's also another title fight on this card, and the main card is stacked, and I feel like the only thing that's being focused on is this main event.

Yeah, no one's talking about Van Tira. No. Nothing. And I know that they're not like the most dynamic talk. I mean, it's a great, great fight on paper, and hopefully as the week goes on, we will talk more about that, and it will get more attention.

But yes, look, I'm not sitting here saying trash talk is bad. No way. I'm just asking the questions, is it too far? Is it too much? What's real? What's not? I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sitting here as the expert. I'm not even like being disingenuous with my questions. I'm generally curious what people think about all this. And I think what they have said to us is they're not bothered. At least the ones who are willing to comment, right? They're not too bothered about all this. So I do think that's also that also has an implication though, which is that they don't believe it, right? They like it, but they don't believe it. If they believed it, They might have an issue with it, but they don't actually believe it. For now it's talk. For now, it's just talk.

If Fight Week comes, we're here, and if it escalates further and something does happen, then we'll actually know how people feel about it. Because right now it's just talk, and they think it's just talk. That is the other implication is like, I don't have a problem with this because they're just talking. Right. But if they're not just talking, then I'm curious where people actually stand on it. Well, it's going to be a big week, and it's in our backyard. It's in Jersey.

Even bigger than that is Friday night, live at City Winery, NYC, Limited, just like the Queensberry Show on Saturday. Very limited tickets available. You can get them now. There's the website. The S. City Winery, NYC, Ariel Hawani, not Pizzie Carroll. Wow.

New York, Rick, G.C. The whole crew. Everyone's going to be there. There we are. There I am. And there's Kevin Holland. He's going to join us on Friday. Also going to be joining us.

Derek Lewis going to be joining us. Tickets on sale right now. There is a link in the YouTube chat. 8 p.m. doors open. 8.30. Quaint venue. It'll be like an hour and a half show. Q&A with the fighters.

Q&A with the crew. Q&A with me. Whatever you want. A little high five. How are you? And it's going to be a fun one. A lot of you were asking. A lot of you were asking.

asking, when's the next live show in the New York, New Jersey area? Now you have it this Friday, City Winery, 830. Then we're off to L.A., by the way, on Saturday, and then that's a huge week for us in L.A. leading up to the May 16th card on Netflix. Other things, other things. There's a lot more to get to. White House card, rapidly approaching, as you know, Ilya, doing an interview with Univision. Did I get that right, Andy? Very nice. Univision. Univision.

Univision. You're giving us to Spain. I feel like you need the... No, because he's Spanish. So it's not Barcelona. It's Barcelona. That is a great point. See?

I was trying to do it for my boy, Ilya. Anyway, he was asked whether or not his involvement on this card, in this card. Is political? Here's what he had to say with my translation. Here we go.

The United States is a bit divided, right? politically. And I don't want to go too deep into politics because I know that's not your thing. But let's say events like this. Do you think they serve to unite the country? Look, at the end of the day, sports for me has no flags.

The athlete is the athlete. I fight, I compete, work for a company. The company told me I have to be at the White House. So I'm going to do my job. This isn't a political stance, not at all. It's simply that they called me to do a job and I'm going to go do it. And the White House, well,

it's not just one person's house. It's everyone's house. Today there's one person, tomorrow, another, and so on. It's not a bad answer for Milia. So there you have it. We did ask him about that as well. A consistent answer

and probably the right one to make. They are going to do that press conference that I told you all about first last week. and it's going down on Friday as well. But before our show, so don't worry. Derek Lewis will be there. It's going to be happening at 5 p.m. They've announced a press conference

with all the fighters competing on the card. There you have them. Ilya, Alex, Sean, Josh, Maricio, Bo, Diego, Steve, Kyle, Michael, Derek, Amon, Cyril, Justin. Who steals the show from this group? Because there's no like outlandish personality, right? There's no...

Oh, Josh Hocus. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. And you don't think Josh Oak it's going to try and steamroll this entire fucking thing? You're right. You're right. Steve Garcia. The star is born at the White House press conference.

You're right. You're right. I just poses to Rick back on 328. Are you guys going to come out of Embedded Retirement? For this one? For this week. I wonder how much access embedded is going to get. If Sean's that upset.

First episode already, up Ariel, you're already behind me. And? Is there Sean in it? For. I haven't watched it. What's he doing? packing, getting a haircut, shooting guns. I just saw a hamzat in the phone.

Yeah, he's packing his guns. Good point. They did announce yesterday or reveal on, well, why don't we ask Frank? I know he was watching the Lara Trump show on Fox News. I'm so glad you asked. What happened, Frank? I saw these renderings today. Well, they showed renderings of the White House set up. Let me tell you something.

That screen above there, that's, that's, that's, that's, a lot cool. Like that actually looks like an arena. Like some A-O. shit, like, I don't. Wait, isn't this the ellipse? No, isn't that? What is that? I'm pretty sure there's the ellipse where the watch was on top and then the actual White House was on the bottom.

All the ellipse, because it's shaped like a giant ellipse. Now, they're way too far from the White House in that bottom one, no? Yeah, it's close. Oh, all right. Well. Shout out to the ellipse. And we get to see where we're going to be at watching Zach Brown. That's just a zoom. Put that back up. The bottom is just a zoomed in.

You see at the top of the frame, there's the screens on the side, the thing up top. That's just zoomed in on that. You think 80,000 people are in there? Hell yeah. No, didn't he change the number to like 65 or something now? No, no, no, no. They said 80. 80?

Yeah, that's what I thought. You think Zach's going to say, just a little bit of chicken fry. That's the only thing. Old beer on a Friday night. Is that his only song? No, he's got some bangers. I've seen him in concert a couple times. He's from Georgia.

He's like a Georgia's stable. I saw him in high school a few times. What if he did a face-the-paying cover? Oh my God, that would be nuts For the real ones out there On a banjo Is Drake going to be Walking out as a hobby?

I doubt that, right? Well, Cyril Gunn is getting ready And I saw some footage of him Training with Cuban boxer Lenar Perez And look at Cyril doing his thing Look at that movement there from Surreal Look at this Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.

What do we think? is we're going to shock the world and ruin everyone's plans? You know what? Is he a favorite or a dog? In this fight? It's like minus 110 each way. I don't think it shocked the world because...

Well, okay, fine. Ruin the plans for sure. Can I say something? This is one of those times? I actually feel like the UFC wins in either scenario. Surreal versus Tom is... I disagree. Surreal versus Tom is a huge rematch,

especially if he's coming off a win over Alex Perra. And Alex versus Tom is a huge. There's more Jews. to Surreal versus Tom. Tom called Surreal all kinds of names. No. No, I'm telling you. This is what...

You're telling me, I'm telling you. There are times where one outcome is a disaster. This is not one of those times. No, this is not a disaster. Definitely not a disaster. But Alex Pereira versus Tom with Alex as interim champ would be 10x. Mega.

I'm with Ricky. I think Alex Pereira is still bigger, despite the history between Tom and Zero. This is the Armin versus Ilya is bigger. Yeah, but if God, wins the fight against Pereira. He knocks out Pereira. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah, but to your point, Mugamette-on-Kalive wasn't the guy, and he beat Alex Pereira. Beat him. Different. Different. Melt them. Different. Alex versus Tom is much bigger.

I'm hype. Sunday night. Not talked about enough. Have they said when the card is going to start? Let's see. Usually ESPN does it. Better be a good time from here. I won't be watching, I'll tell you that one.

Yeah, no. Sunday night. Is this a political protest pizza? Yeah. White House is a political, by the way. Where is it? Where is it? I can't fucking wait for the guy being serious.

It's a dude. MMA has gone so buried on the ESPN tab over there. You got to go to more sports. You got to go all the way to the third column above NBA G League. Third column. I'm seeing 8 p.m. Oh, you are? Are you looking for fight center?

Is that why you're on? I was going for the, I was going for the, I was going for the, MMA. Fight Center. I'm not a fight center guy. I'm a tapology through and through. No, but they're good with the Times. Fight Center's good.

I like Fight Center. Fight Center's good with the Times. You guys don't even really use UFC.com, eh? No, no, no, no. Wait, 8 p.m. And there's how many fights? Seven. This is going to go to like midnight on a Sunday?

It's all right. Golly. What will that work for me post-paper-view? One day was just... No, no. This is technically not a paper view, so we're good. I don't know about that. It's a bank call.

I can't believe they're doing fights at the White House, and it's in a month. month. You've always been a doubter. Yeah, I will eat my crow. I doubted this heavily when it first came out. But I'm just on the website right now, and it's Elliot to Porte Alex Pereira, Justin Gagee, Cyril Gond. Oh, it's happening. And above the White House. What's the dot-gov webpage going up? When are we getting that?

When is it like? Official official? Like, here's the fights that are happening. Have you copped your jersey yet? What jersey? What jersey? You haven't got it yet? Bro. What jersey?

You're kidding me. Rick, wake up. The fuck. Rick's never been a fashion guy. Come on, bro. Rick's never been a fashion guy. Yo, the... If I get this, does that change?

Do I have a couple of fat? Laces, the laces at the top. The tie-up, that's an old-school look right there. I like that. New York Fashion Week. M on the back, it's a little too far. What's that, Frank? He's right.

The spacing on the M is off. On the back. Too far from the Lowe. It is double space. Frank is saying it leans too far right. Yeah. You think that's... Yeah.

You think that's... Yeah. It's definitely... It's... It's... It's... It's... It's...

You think that's AI, that picture, Frank? Like, some AI shit. Oh! Universal applications right there. If you didn't know P.T. He was drunk in that. It almost sounds like he's crying a little bit.

He's just in such disbelief of whatever it is. The best part about that particular one, Frank was like, when are we going to use that one? I was like, the amount of times that we talk about AI in this show, every time you can play that one. I don't, the one where it's like, what's going on? I don't know how much you use that, but the last two, the Ariel one and the AI one will get used.

What's going on? Yeah, you guys doubted me with the hello, hello, and it became one of my favorites. It's one of your favorites. Hello, hello, I'm good. How are you? But fight is a fight, you know? Business! My favorite job.

Let me get the tail. My favorite. Keep my fucking name. No, not that. No, not that one. The new. I give a shit, so give us a fucking answer. Baldi.

It's too good. Baldi. No, it is. As we're giving Frank his flowers, what about this comment? What about this comment? Read that shit. We have the comment. This is from USAVlog cast.

Frank, compared to MK, UFC on Paramount YouTube page, Jack Slack, Coleman event podcast. Annecat Flow, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, you are by far the best, most clear sounding audio waves. Damn. Full Sail University has noticed,

and we use you as an example, just like Jamie, full cell university alumni, on JRE, when we're reviewing live audio in WWNXT Labs. Y'all actually understand the importance of clean audio,

not loud audio, not quiet audio, all caps, C-L-E-A-N-C-E-N-C-E-N-Clean audio. What about that, Frank? That might be the greatest compliment you've ever received. Damn straight. How do you feel? How do you feel?

I feel great. I feel great. I think that's very astute observation of theirs. I responded to that guy and said, where's this audio that you're talking about? Because I have yet to hear it. Because it's not loud enough. I actually said to Frank this morning,

I was like, man, before I even read that comment, someone was playing boys in the background, man. I was like, you know what? That audio sounds fantastic. Shout out to Frank. You guys a D1 Glazer, man. Look at this. And then we say anything about the audio, and he's like, you guys just don't,

you guys don't appreciate my craft. Yeah. What do you guys hate on me so much? It's a hard for me. This meant to be a noise mom for Frank. This meant me a noise. Yeah, I'm trying to give him his flowers. And he's saying, I'm playing a bit of a shit sandwich there, G.

You know, he's in me with the D1 Glazer, man. He can do no wrong right now. He can do no wrong. Speaking of Tom Aspinall, guys, he did provide an update on his great YouTube channel regarding his eye, promising stuff. important stuff positive stuff here's big time little stuff we are just on route back from the eye hospital where today i've had a scan and uh things are progressing fucking nicely which i'm very happy about the saying pretty soon if things keep moving in the right direction i will be cleared for contact

i am back in the gym i am back training no sparring just yet but uh if things keep going the way they're going we are back everyone keeps asking when I'm going to fight. The obvious answer is the other two guys, Alex and Cyril, have to fight for the interim title. I'm obviously going to fight the winner. The UFC have told me that I'm fighting the winner. First and foremost, they have to get my health right,

which is on the right track. When are you thinking about the comeback any specific month? No specific month. I'm waiting to get clearance, which is going to be coming soon. They've just told me. Any specific month depends on the UFC. Those other two have got to fight each other. Let them do the thing first,

recover from that, and then when everybody's ready, Okay. This is good. Driving cars, what? What's that? What's that? Driven his car. He wasn't able to drive for a long long long long.

Oh, right, right. Of course, of course, of course. Of course. No, no, no. This is good. This is good. This is very good. I like this.

They should have Tom there in the front row. But they won't. They did say on that Lara Trump show that Frank told us about 4,300 or so military will be in attendance, which I think is a very nice gesture. Very respectfully. Yes.

Remember those old events for the troops events? Yes. Fight for the troops. They'd be in full comma and shit. That was crazy. Well, they did them on military basis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I went to one in Kentucky. It was a scene, man. It was just military, men and women there. There was a buzz, man. Yeah, yeah. Real buzz in those arenas, yeah. Wasn't a big venue, but it was very quaint. The fighters loved it.

You'd always have fighters on those cards. Some of them with ties to the military. Fighters absolutely loved it. Yeah, Brian Stan. Tim Kennedy, those types of guys. it was great. Really nice thing. I wonder why they stopped doing that, to be honest.

Who knows? Not a lot of money in that one, I would, I would wager. Yeah, that was a nice gesture. When they were doing less events too back of the day, this spike events. Like, they weren't, I don't even think they did any of those in the Fox days. Maybe at the very, very beginning. Anyway, we spoke about Prachas.

He's rolling right now. He's feeling good. And he's the one that actually put out. Chale doesn't believe anything that I say, clearly, for some reason. but he also even said Islam versus Ian Gary is going to be happening on August 15th in Philly. Here he is saying that and also saying he wants to be in attendance. He's going to have a birthday party. He's going to be loving life.

And then he wants next. Here's Carlos after his big win on Saturday. Yeah, let's do this, you know. I hope he beat Islam. I think it's a really hard fight, of course, but I think he has some skills to beat Islam. Let's go. Let's do this. I will be there watching.

The fight is going to be. two days before my birthday. So I'm gonna ask you have C as a gift of present of birthday, bring me to the fight and let me watch. I was not worrying about take it down. No, a lot of people are gonna say, how Carlos can fight his land because on the first round he got dropped by JDM, you know, if you see like when he comes to take down, I just open my arm like, oh, now you become a wrestler and then he take me down. I'm not scared about takedowns. I'm not scared about I'm BJJ Black Belt, you know. man

I don't think Carlos is scared of takedowns I would love to see that fight I would just love if the timing worked out

great but Ian's next and ultimately like I'm not going to be upset if Carlos gets a title shot next but I would just also love to see

the Morales fight Carlos is about that life he doesn't seem like the type of guy to like pick and choose or squat or do any of that nonsense so I understand

why he's pushing for it 100% I understand that but Morales is out there saying he wants next he posted on Instagram, essentially that he wants Carlos Prochus next, right? I think that was the implication from this post right here. Here we go.

That's the one. Great week for Carlos Prochese. Here he is after the win with his lovely daughter who stole the show on Fight Week. Look at these two. Little banged up, as you can see. And in fact, he was seen rolling around the hotel in a shopping cart after the win. there he is. Hello Carlos.

The jump off the shopping cart looks like it hurt. It broke me two arms. It's coming out one and I once. Yeah, both. Yeah. How old are you? It's barred in.

Oh my gosh. 14. I thought you'd say like six or something. Could you explain the physics of breaking the arms while coming out? Tell me how this happened. We were, so we robbed the trolley out at one of the supermarkets and we got shit-faced. And then we might was like get in that there and we'll fucking go around.

And we'll have a bit of crack with this. So he's like spinning me around in it or whatever. Then we just hit a fucking curb. I flew out, hands like this, smashed boat on. Oh, she posted. You got phyentosia. I got a, I got a, one of them took longer to heel than the other. And I had to go to my, like, my prom with a full cast on, which was pretty gang.

Oh, wait. Did you have a cast on both arms? Oh, wait. Now, that was another scaffold, because I would have been 17. But the scaffolder actually never heals. Jenna? Never heals. But did you break both arms at the same time?

time. Yeah. It's not exactly your arm. It's it's a bomb here, I think, or in here called the scaffold. Yeah. But like, are you walking around like this? No, it didn't brace. Like they just had cast. Oh, got you. All right. And then they cut them off. Do you ever

get your casket off and the fucking smell off your arm after? Oh, yeah. You're sending in. But it's a nice feeling, right? It's sort of like a relief. Your skin is a little, yeah, it's a little weird. It's a little moist and like it's like, what's the word?

Sick, man. It's disgusting. It's pruny, right? Shriveled up. Yeah. Nasty, nasty, nasty. Yeah. So just saying, Pratchez, watch out, mate.

You know what I mean? Yeah. You don't want to mess around with that. Anyway, Isamahatchev was quick to congratulate Mr. Carlos Prachas on his big win. Good job Nutella Cake. Now, he is not just a massive fan of Nutella Cake. I mean, who isn't?

This is why he was calling Carlos Prachas Nutella Cake. Carlos Prathez, Nutella Cake. He eat Nutella cake in the lunchtime, you know, in the five week. It's some things I never do, you know. Let's go. Nutella cake, bro. Nutella cake. Thank you, buddy.

Thank you. It's a lot of cake talk, right? Tirmisu, Nutella. In any event, here's Ian Gary on the Carlos Prakis. When, Carlos, after I beat Islam, you and I in Brazil. Let's do it. which I love, because that's saying home game for you. Now, I know, of course, Ian's married to a Brazilian.

They live in Brazil for part of the year. Train in Brazil. Sun speaks Portuguese, but that's a pretty cool scene. That would be fun. He did also weigh in on Jack Della. Jack had nothing, nothing. Bit of bad blood there between the two of them, right? What do we do with Jack Della now?

Time off? I mean, there was some time What? Yeah, he needed some time off That didn't look That didn't look How I thought it would look Even if

Even if I thought Pratchez could win the fight It just, it just He didn't have a lot for him At all I didn't think And he looked so good As a striker for so long

In the UFC It just And the Pratch is fantastic Don't get me wrong But JDS Just didn't look himself In there at all I'm not as worried

About the physical As the mental I think he just needs A reset Yes To have been And to have what Islam did to him back to back with what Carlos did to him, that has to hurt the ego. That has to hurt the pride.

That has to have you questioning where you belong in this sport. Reset for a bit. Get your mojo back. And then I'm sure he'll look fantastic. It's like that combo of getting out grappled for 25 minutes. And then it's like, all right, well, now we're back to my strong suit and striking. And to just get one-way traffic the entire way and then finished in the third round. And he would think he was going to get finished before that.

after being champion too yeah the the mental has to be on strain right now i i i was saying this to you guys i really like jack a lot like it made me sad right he's just he's so likable he's so fun to root for he's just got that no all those australian guys are just sort of no nonsense likable every man working man i heard eddie herne speaking about the australian fighters edie had a show last Wednesday in Australia, the one we talked about, Sky Nicholson headlining. And he said, there's just something different about the Australian fighters. And he said, it's not even the same when it comes to the British fighters. Australian fighters, no matter where you put them, no matter the venue, no matter the locker room, they say, all right, let's get on with it, tape them up, let's go.

There are just sort of no frills. And I really feel like all the Australian fighters that we've been subjected to, that we've been introduced in this sport, MMA, are sort of cut from that same cloth and Jack is that guy. And so to see him in those moments where he's talking about the foot and he's, I don't want to use the word broken because that's a very extreme word, but the last two performances were tough. I have no doubt. Look, there was a time where we were saying the same thing about Benoit Saint-Denie.

Remember that? And now look at how good he's looked as of late and he's got this massive fight potentially against Patty Pimblech, July 11th. Like, you can rebound in this sport, no problem. But maybe a bit of a step back. Like, does a Michael Malotte fight make sense for a Jack Della? or does that not make sense? Right now he's one.

He's not going to be one tomorrow. But he'll maybe be five. I don't think you go against another like... So what do you do? So what do you do? I really like that boyfriend, to be honest. You do? Like, I like that for JDM.

I don't. It just feels like an unnecessary. Like those types of... I'm talking about... Here's 11 through 15. What the... I'd rather fight Balah Muhammad. I'd rather be against the guy who...

Again. Yeah. Why not? That's how you do it. That's how you get your mojo back. Familiar territory, right? You got to see what happens with Balin Banffin. Yeah, what about an Amasov?

He's fighting this weekend. But that's... Now we're naming a bunch of guys who the name value doesn't do anything to propel them back, and they're dangerous as fuck. No, but they're just killing. What if Joel beats Amasov? Yeah, Joel could beat him, too.

He's fucking class. And then maybe you do the fight. I'm just saying, otherwise, you're talking about outside the top 15, and then you're not going to have him fight someone who's like... What about, like, Leon Edwards? Leon's fighting D-Rod apparently if D-Rod is to be Don't want to put Tim Simpson's opposition now, do we?

For God's sake. He's been in that spot before. He was just there recently. These are the names that I'd be wanting if I was Jack D-Dull. I don't mind that. So if Leon loses? Or wins.

Yeah. What's wrong with that? Another guy who needs to get, you know, he's fighting D-Rod. So if he beats D-Rod, he's back on track. Yeah, so Jack Della versus Leon. His fall's been more precipitous. What about the loser

of the Sean Brady fight this weekend? Oh, yeah. I like that. Yeah. Bookley. Yeah. The loser. So both guys need a win.

Yeah. I don't mind that one. I don't mind that one at all, actually. Both guys would be on two fight losing streaks. Still top ten-ish. Yeah. Let's do that. He won't be one, but he could be five.

So look at Brady, Usman. I don't mind the Usman fight either, but I don't know what's going on with him. He's going to say, what does this lead to? What does this do for me? Yada, yada. All that stuff. But we do. wish him the best, and he's one of those guys that is beloved.

It was great to see him get that walkout, that moment. Could we show some love to Joe Martinez, New York, Rick? Take it away. No, I mean, you know, let's just... You pretend like this is your thing. It's not my thing? I've been watching Joe Martinez since WEC days. Yeah, and you've been sleeping.

You're right. That's all good. Favorite, like, he is the man, the California kid. He's the freaking man. No, no, no, no, hold on. You've been watching him, yeah, but you've been asleep. Because every time I say that Joe Martinez, is the gold standard and better than buffer.

All of a sudden, I got $1,600. I love Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you do. When he did the, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy, that's from Saturday, yeah. So good. What about before Saturday when I've been saying this?

And I was alone on an island. Uriah Fabor, California kid. Look, man, you watched it. You watched it. This is still incredible, man. Joe Martinez is the best in the game. Joe's right there. That's okay. That's okay to say.

What's the pound for pound right now? Bruce Joe Big Moe? Joe's number one? Where's Mike going? I feel like he's emeritus at this point. Okay. You know? Classy, classy Jimmy Lennon.

You're just trying to sneak your boy Big Mo into the top three. Not, no. Big Moe's good. Big Moe's worthy. Is he not? Yes, he is. What is that? You're just jealous of his stash, huh?

It's some kind of... See, have a stash. Don't even know what he looks like me. Don't even know what he looks like. He's a tall, handsome man. I tell you that much. He's like six. foot eight, the freaking guy.

Massive. Yeah, but I'm not going to stand for this revisionist history. That's okay, though. This is truly the moment I have been waiting for. No, it's not. Well done, unfortunately not. Well done, Frankie. Bruce Buffer's a legend, but we are in good hands. We are in good hands. We're in great hands.

The thing is, a lot of these guys are, you know... Getting older? Yeah, above 50? I don't know how old Joe is. I think John Martinez over 50? He looks at 20. 36 to me, 34. Hmm.

Are you serious? Like 28. No, not. 28 year old boy. He's 51. 51. Okay.

Big Mo is sub 30. Yeah, he's got years in the game. He's got a freaking runway there. The big lads don't hang around very long though. That's a good point. That's a good point. Jesus,

that's dark as fuck. We're having to talk about longevity here. I mean, I feel like I need to bring it up. Yeah. I know, but it's more like longevity in your career, not like in your life,

you know? Like, geez. He's not talking about Andre the Giant here. six eight isn't small though we do have some new Connor McGregor sparring footage guys of course I'm saying he's going to be fighting on July

11th or at least scheduled to fight look at that one pointing down that's Anderson Silva Tyron Woodley-esque with the trickery and do you know who he's sparring against here yeah it says it in the corner Dong young Kim The Stunggungo who wasn't fought in 10 years

Where's this coming from though SBG? No no no obviously I know that There was some talk of Daniel and Kim fighting on the Netflix card, by the way. We just haven't seen much from him in quite some time. Beloved South Korean fighter. When I saw that, I was... What? Does he not flood since 27th or something?

It's been a minute. Has it been that long? Yeah, I think so. No, I just know where has he been? How does he emerge in the buildup to this? And why is he in Ireland? PT, can you find out? His last fight was 2017.

I think it's some exchange program there with... Kavana. I really do. I think that they're out there like Alta or something, is it? I don't know. You think so? I was impressed with that. I was even more impressed with Man City's Ryan Cherokee,

who did a little bit of sparring as well. Did you see this, PT? You say that the basketball players can't fight for S.H. Start teams. Look at Cherokee. Look at this. Yeah, he's fucking brilliant. No, come on.

Guys, do you know what Ryan Cherokee is? I love him. I love Ron Jerky. I think he's my favorite player in the Premier League right now. He just plays for the Blue Soot of Manchester, which makes it very awkward. He already has an assist to go over Jeremy Duck who. They're winning him up against fucking Everton. And he's probably going to do some extra rounds after that.

You know what I mean? Listen, Rick, I know you don't know who Ryan Turkey is, but you've seen enough athletes hit Mitz. This dude is a superstar soccer player. This is not bad. No, he looks good. He's a mad. Listen, he's not extending the right hand. It's a little bit sloppy.

He's not bringing back the phone, all that stuff. I know this because I do a little boxing myself. The point is it's pretty damn impressive. He's got to extend that right hand. The punches are a little short. But it's damn impressive, is it not? It is. Yeah, he looks crispy.

Come on. When are we getting the footage, bro? Yeah, the Hawani footage is going to drop. We sprinkle here and there. We sprinkle here and there. Speaking of crossovers in that beautiful hat, what about Jalen Brunson asked about the OTC? Did you guys see that on Thursday?

I thought you were going to show a Jalen Brunson crossover. I didn't realize that this is... What about Jailen being asked about the OTC? Did you see this, Pizzi? No. You didn't see this? No. Did you see it?

No. You didn't see it? Oh, I saw it. No. I saw this. Enjoy. Jeline, congratulations to you, man. I'm lifelong Nick fan.

Been through some terrible years, but you guys definitely bringing a lot of glory back to the city. Thank you for that. Real quick, outside of the playoffs, as a wrestling fan, what did you think of Roman winning at Mania in the bloodline getting back together? See, these are the questions. I want to ask. I want to ask. If I would ask you that first, you could have asked it first.

Well, you should have asked it first. Very excited. Very excited. I have a handshake with one of our trainers. And we acknowledge them before every game. Jalen knows ball. He acknowledges him. Oh, the tribal chief, he always asks people to acknowledge him.

The OTC, the original tribal chief, the one. He puts up the thing. What's he talking about? Oh, which a handshake. What's that mean? He says he has a handshake with one of the trainers where they probably do this. They probably do that. That's the thing when Roman comes out.

Everyone puts up the ones because he's the one. He's the original. You feel me? I just thought it was a fun moment there. I mean, you didn't have to dice it up there, PC. When the reporter was asking. I just saw just missing context, all right? That's all I'm saying.

He's, he's acknowledging. Was he saying the reporter himself, he's been through terrible years or the Nicks have been through terrible years? I think he's saying as a fan of the Knicks, he's been through some terrible years. So my read on that as someone who watches all the Knicks coverage, that was sort of like a local guy, just trying to have a fun moment. Jalen turned to one of the actual beat guys, James Edwards, and was like, you know, why ask me this? Yeah. And the other guy said, if I would have asked you that after one of the games,

you would have killed me. So, you know, he's having a fun moment with one of the local guys and then, sorry, one of the day-to-day beat guys, and then some guy comes out of nowhere and just asks him this fun question. So I think he was saying, my read was that the guy asking the question is probably a New Yorker who's transplanted, who doesn't get an opportunity to ask Jaylon the question, and took that opportunity to say like, hey, it's been tough times, but what about this? Actually reminded me of when my sons and I saw Jalen at the basketball game before the Lakers game in February, and I told Walter, ask him about the Royal Rumble, because I knew that would make him smile. and he did ask him if he saw the Royal Rumble, and he did smile.

It was great. And then, wouldn't you know it? I revealed this late last week after the Hawks win because I was riding high and forgot that I even mentioned it. In mid-May, excuse me, in mid-March, I got to meet Jalen and Josh with my kids. They were filming their podcast, the roommates' podcast, the roommates show,

and I was interviewing Josh for a project that is going to start coming out this week. and they told me, hey, we're going to go there on a Saturday in Westchester, and you're going to interview Josh, and it's going to be before his podcast on his podcast set. And so I rarely, if ever do this, but I asked if my kids could come. They said yes. My oldest son, Oliver, loves Josh Hart. That's his favorite player.

And so I said, hey, bring a couple cards. Josh is definitely going to be there because I'm interviewing him, but they're interviewing, they were doing the interview where the podcast is being filmed. Jalen probably is going to be there as well. And so Josh comes, he's super nice, I introduce him to the kids, they're loving life, they're shaking, they're not saying anything, they're super, super nervous. And then corner of my eye, mid-interview with Josh,

Jalen comes, I see him, and then introduce him to the kids, say hello. I think he knew me. I think he said, hey, Ariel, I wasn't sure. I've been replaying it in my mind a lot. But he was wearing... What's that? Did you ask the lads, did he say, hi, Ariel? They said no.

They said he had no idea. who I was. I'm going with their version of events. I'm going with their version of events. Sorry. He was wearing a Hardy Boy's t-shirt, which I thought was super cool. And then we started talking about wrestling

and about his fandom. And it was one of the all-time great days. Honestly, I've said this to you guys. I'll say to the audience, my favorite moment was the conversation with Jalen is winding down. And they could have been nicer and just cool. I mean, it's just like,

this is my version of Ewing and Starks and my kids are getting to meet them. And it's winding down, winding down. And at that point, I felt like we had taken up enough time. So I didn't want to ask for, hey, can you sign this for my kid? And we're probably talking like this, four out of 10 on the loudness scale. And my son, Walter, comes out with like a nine and just says, can you sign my card? Out of nowhere, like blurts it out because he was probably holding onto it so tightly. And he blurts it out. And I was not going to ask it. And I was proud of him for asking.

I was like, you know what? Good job, young man. Well done. He takes his card out. It's in one of those plastic cases and his hand is just shaking. He cannot get it out of the case. And so I was like, hey, do you want me to help you out with that? He gets the signatures. Everyone's happy. We pack up our stuff, run across the street to a pizza place, like three kids who, you know, just experienced one of the all-time great moments in their lives and we're just like reacting to it and they're talking about the aura and the DNA and freaking out. And they're like, I can't he touched my hand and I can't believe I was in his presence and I looked into his eyes. Just seeing them react like that, giving them that moment.

Like I said, if I was their age and met Ewing and Starks, I think I would have fainted, to be honest. But they are the equivalent of Ewing and Starks to me as a kid was a day that I'll never forget as a dad. It was really amazing. And it only made their love of those guys increased tenfold. It was really damn cool. I was hoping to watch game one with them today.

But we'll have to text me about that. Which time? Uol Romero, we said, picked up a big win. Did we show this to chill? I'm not sure if we actually showed it to him, but he did pick up a big win over at Gamebred Bare Knuckle MMA on Friday night. Look at the blood on the cage. They need to get one of those canvases or canvys.

Is it canvies or canvases? Canvases. Where you can like, you can like peel it off, you know? like, okay, there's one layer. There's another. You're implying that that exists? No, but it would be cool. The Hafeel Alva's submission of Anthony and Jokwani was nuts.

Did you see this, Ptze? It was like a chicken wing. You didn't see it. Come on. Serious. Look at this right here. Do a play-by-play for me right now. He's trying to see who plex him.

Oh, he kind of, a weird situation, of course there. Or he's on his back. It's a rare nugget choke. He's got a seatbelt position. he's going two on one on the other guys arm, which means he's going for a Camara. No, he's not going for Camara.

He's going for a, what the fuck is? I have no idea what that is. That's amazing. It was amazing, right? It's kind of like a reverse police lock. Do you remember the guys used to finish like that, but they have it the other way, right? And this way they're going to.

Wild. That's crazy. It was crazy. Also crazy, this knockout. So this happened at Petrosion Mania, if you would believe it. What is Petrosian Mania, Mr. New York, do you know what this is?

I mean, I knew. I assume it's Petrosian's motion, yeah. Armine Petrojan. Oh, Armin. I don't know. I was assuming Georgia. I thought it was a festival. Yeah, I was seeing Georgie.

Armine Petrogy. I didn't know. Anyway, it is kickboxing. It's Eddie Vinati against Munam Benamar. These names may not mean anything. That knockout does. You almost have to watch it multiple times. Look at this.

That's fucking sick. Oh, my je. Look at this right here. Look at this. knockout right here. It's insane. Here it comes. Oh.

Quina reminds you when Michael Jackson does that spin and then drops down to his nays in the Georgia Dayette. Yes. Have you seen the film yet, PT? No. Is it out yet? Yeah. Oh, it is.

Has anyone seen it? No. No. Petrosian Mania is the International Combat Sports Gala created by Giorgio and Armin. Love that. Shout out.

Very exciting. Now, what do we have to say about this karate combat event? Not much. There's a fight this weekend between Curtis Millinder. Ptie, have you seen this? Which, the pit bull brothers

getting fucking hips with some water pistols and then beating the piss out lads and then they're like, here, listen, these fucking dickheads actually sent them over to do it. There's a lot of cameras through. It's what the fuck is happening on? with Grety. Well, I do want to say...

No, no, no. I don't want to hear you saying, whatever. What the fuck is going on with that promotion? The president of the promotion, President Austin, will join us on the show tomorrow to address some of these issues, but this is a bigger issue. Ptzee, that was promotional.

I don't know what that was, but you haven't seen what actually happened in the Curtis Millinder fight. Have you seen that? No. I like Curtis Millinder, so I'm excited to see. Well, let's please enjoy.

Here's Curtisville. Ah, for the fuck's sake. Ah, fuck off. No. Nah, this is fucking ridiculous. That's Wig C. Yeah, I know it is. Pretending to be blind in the middle of the fight,

crashing the fight. It's like fucking Jerry Springer or something that played in promotion now. You can show you a man that tomorrow. Fucking Captain Awesome, whatever his name is. That's an absolute piss take. I'm with you, Pete. It's so dumb. It is so dumb.

Honestly, I feel stupider for having watched that. It is so dumb. Shout out to Jack Slack. He called this a meme organization. Why is the, why is the rest just sort of like, hey, can someone get this guy?

Excuse me. Sorry, you mind getting out of here? Well, I do think there's probably an element of them knowing that they're in the circus, you know, like if this was a real promotion, there would be more urgency to get this man out of the pit. But because it is a bit of a meme organization

as Jack Slack dubbed it, like I don't think they were as much. They're kind of just like, oh, yeah, that's what happens here. Yeah, I don't think Curtis was in on it. No, definitely not. I don't think Curtis was in on it. Didn't they get into a brawl afterwards or something? Yes, they did get into a brawl.

Here it is. Here's the interaction. And by the way, Oh, is this a real brawl? Is this an actual brawl? This is a real one? All the cameras there? Here's the thing.

I don't think Curtis Milander is that guy to be messing with, and any fighter would be pissed off if you just sort of, you know. Who's his fight as a joke? Hang on, what we can see is coming at, middle and they're outside of the situation. Let's watch, let's watch, Ptsey. Here you go. Bro, are you kidding?

You guys lost twice. That's embarrassing. Stop. Yeah. You got to go out by a freaking flyway. Look at this, Peter. Walk. Walk.

Now, I fucking start walking, my ear. L.O.L. So, man. I know, he just got slapped. Call the police. Poor staff, the holiday. Yeah, yeah, you still lost, dumb ass.

Walk! Fucking bitch. Take your shit. I'm shocked that Millinder didn't rip him in a hat. Bitch. It's because of all the cameras there. Still got dropped and it didn't matter. He's bleeding, by the way.

Go fucking walk. You fucking talk. Go walk. Winksey, there's blood on the ground. You see the drops? Keep walking. Oh, he did get smacked. Go. You really assaulted another dude over the fact that you lost?

I lost two, brother. The only person you got to blame is yourself. That's crazy. Jesus. Crazy. Winksey just got assaulted. But I still gain horror, baby. Am I bleeding?

Who's bleeding? Is it me that's bleeding? So bro came up behind me sucker punch me honestly I wanted to apologize to him because I know he's probably feeling some hard feelings But this this is kind of crazy bro our job is to get attention If you're at least gonna do some shit like that put it on camera come on now I still can't believe that head tattooed Pete, see your thoughts on all this? What's happening here?

Your thoughts? I just think it's absolute bollocks, honestly. I just think. They're just going from one fucking, you know, meme to the other really, aren't they? It's just, the fighting is nothing. It means nothing to fighting anymore. It's all about this bullshit.

That's what I think. They've got some things to, like the pit bull thing. Was that real? Well, it was real in the way that, like, lads came in, they squirt them with guns, and they were like, we had no fucking idea what was going on here. here. Yeah.

So we set upon these guys and there's a full fucking camera crew outside. Do you know what I mean? It looked like people were actually getting their asses beat in that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't mess around.

No, but Joe, it's annoying. They were actually doing something pretty fucking cool, these lads. Yeah. They were doing something interesting. They had a different format. People were genuinely excited about it. This is bollocks. I mean, can you not point to the time of ownership change?

Yeah, I mean, a lot has changed. They had, uh, you know, different leadership. I don't know. I don't know who's really in charge of this. I mean, here we are talking about it. Larissa Pacheco had a nasty knockout on that card against someone who wasn't quite on her level. There's Pichko fighting at 135, by the way.

Why isn't she in the UFC? Why don't they sign her? Like, I'd watch Larissa Pacheco fight. Wasn't that the reason that they weren't sure that she could make 35? I don't know, but she can. I believe that. Unless I'm mistaken and forgive me, I'm sure somebody reported it or something, probably Guillermo or somebody tapped into the Brazil

but I'm fairly certain it was concerns about her making 135 and then maybe this is her way of saying I can do it. Let's cleanse our palate, shall we? One more time, David Benavides, can we just get David Benavides to cleanse our palate? That would be great. Performances by David Benavitas and Carlos Prochez.

Who is the star? The close-up one. The close-up one of Benavides with the just like a machine gun on it. I did voice for him. technique was aerial you know he's already he's not really rotating well look at the

right look at the right oh look at that yeah a freaking beast a monster monster yeah oh my god he's actually a monster it's insane I used to want to see him versus Canello no thank you he would annihilate destroy Canelo Alvarez who is next one

what we're saying then Usik yeah golly could you imagine that I would still love to see him fight better B.E. But I don't know if that would be a good night at the office. Bibbles fighting. What about Apatoya? Well, yeah, sure. Well, great, great segue there, Mr. Psy. What could possibly get in the way of that?

Here is Mr. David Benavita is talking about Jaya after that fight on Saturday. Jayopatai. How important is it for you to get a chance to fight him without all the red tape in a way? I mean, I think that's the biggest fight in the world, especially at this weight division, you know, and that's definitely a fight I want. Like I said, I'm not scared of nobody. This is monster's world.

And if he wants to get that fight, we get that fight. I don't know why he went to Zufa. We could have made this fight right after this one, you know, but now I don't know if he got stripped by the IBF or what it is. And I'm not going to go there to fight for a Zufa title. But, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I think that would be a great fight to make in the future. And, I mean, I respect Jaya Hopata a lot. He's a great fighter.

And I think he has to come back over here to make these fights happen because, you know, we can't make no fights in Zufa. So that's what I wanted to secondarily ask was that. Do you feel like fighters are losing their power by going over to Zufa? I think that, I mean, yeah, I think they definitely are losing the power. I mean, it's just, it's just a lot of politics in that. You know, I think Dana Writers show that he doesn't want to do fights with PBC, Dazin.

and I don't want to even feel like I don't want to sound like I'm disrespecting but that's just what it looks like from the outside. If we could come to an agreement and make a big fight let's do it. Number one, I love the way in which he calls DeZone Dazen. Love that.

Yeah. And number two, he's right, man. Like, now the fights can't be made so they can talk all they want about what's better for the sport. And why does it seem like Jayapataya continues to insist that he wants these fights?

Did no one explain to him what he signed up for here? It was shocking to me when he signed. I got to be honest. This was the I want to be unified champion. I want to be undisputed champion guy. Like this was the guy. And he could, even after this fight, we don't have the tweet. There was a tweet of him like, let's go.

Are they signing up for that? And he was devastated about the OBF thing. It was devastated. And I understand it. But like, that was the whole fucking thing that Zupa said they were doing. They were attacking all those organizations. Like they weren't going to play ball with them. It's kind of like, how are you surprised that it shook out like this?

One of two things happened. The only way this happens is one, management convinced him to do this and he wasn't aware. Or two, they were told something else before signing and then something else happened after signing. Those are the only two options. They might have paid him a hell of a lot of money and he wasn't with Matrum anymore and it was like, hey, let's take the money and then we'll figure it out. That sounds like option one. Yeah. That sounds like option one.

We'll figure the belts out, Jai. Don't worry about that. two options. And now there's a new superstar on the block that has a lot of people very excited and his name is David Benavides. It means something different coming from Benevitas. And the reason is Benavides is a guy who has been chasing big fights, right? You talked about, you talked about Jai being the guy who was like, I want to unify. He's been very consistent. I want to unify. I want to be the big guy. David Benavitas's whole thing has been, I don't care what the way it is. I want the biggest possible fight. I want to Canelo because I want to beat Canelo. It doesn't matter about

this. It doesn't matter about that. I want you. have the biggest possible fights. So when that guy is saying, like, I just want to make big fights, Jayapataya's great, but he can't do it. It means something. It means something more than like the posture and the politics of boxing, which we have seen get in the way. The sanctioning bodies have been a problem in the past.

He's somebody who's beyond that, right? He's going up and wait. Now there's talks of could he fight, Usik? He just wants to make the big fights. And Jayapataya is now a name that he's going in his ledger and going excluded from this. It's a big deal. It's a big deal.

massive deal because that's now in a previous world that's the fight to make it we're all buzzing imagine those two oh my god it would be unbelievable now David Benavides does have a history with Dana White here's young David with Dana White

from back of the day would you believe that's the same guy that's crazy it's unbelievable he was he's like over 300 pounds at one stage right yeah he's a big boy kind of grew into his body but like he's still is sort of like he's not he's not

jacked He doesn't have washboard abs or anything. That's sort of the beauty. Yeah, I love it. That's what makes it so cool. That's where he keeps this physique as well. You know yourself. That guy can't fight.

It's like, dude, he would beat you like a drum. He's unbelievable. You're not James Hardin? Watch it. Also announced for July 25th, we spoke about July 25th, the A.J. The Atama Fight moving and whatnot. We are getting the return of Errol Spence.

We haven't seen Errol Spence in like, what was it? Three, four years. You can't have to fight crawford? Yes. By fight time it'll be three years. By fight time it'll be three years against Tim Zood. That's a big time fight on PBC.

I hope PBC and Prime and DZone all work together a little bit more often. Why not? We have not able to watch BBC here. Yeah, but you had it on DZone this weekend. That's what I'm saying. I hope they all work together to elevate and get the fights on the most amount of platforms as possible. In the past, as you know, like a big time pay-per-view would be on direct TV in demand here in America, all different providers. get it on the most platforms possible,

and I hope in that way everyone wins. It would be good. That's a big time fight. And I love this tweet from Terrence Crawford. Speaking of Terrence, who put out this after the fight was officially announced, good seeing you back out there, get to it, I'll be there supporting.

Love that. That's sick. Yeah, that's amazing. Terrence was over in Japan as well with, in a way. Terrence is just loving life right now. It's kind of nice to see a guy who was sort of like, you know, perpetually disrespected or under the race, or didn't feel like he was getting the love and the attention, just sort of loving life.

I love everything about that. Aero Spence and Tim Zoo did cross paths over in Las Vegas this weekend. My favorite thing about the whole scene is where they are. They're definitely at the MGM Grand, definitely been there a million times, definitely miss big events happening there, but the boxing events still do happen there, and not really UFC anymore. Anyway, check out the frostiness between Spence and Zoo. God, sir. Oh, Kereshi.

Kerey, I left him hanging. I can't wait to punch him. Before we sort of different, but yeah, first time seeing him. It's a different feeling this time around, you know? Usually I'm nice and respectful, but we're ready to bang on. Another great Australian there. So, love that, love that arrow's back. He at one time was one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world.

a couple of car accidents, a couple of issues, health issues, so we do wish him the best. You saw that fight on Saturday, right? The in-of-a-way fight, PT. Well, there's the thing. I saw it, one eye on it because I was doing the live block.

You know, I have to dedicate me full focus to UFC Perth? And you know how fucking hard that was when those entrances were going down? And I'm like watching three fights from the top and I'm like, I can't actually keep my eyes on this thing. I did. Shaheen Al-Shadi, I promise you, I did.

I looked away briefly like this. He cracks the whip that, Shahina. Yeah, what entrance just made UFC look like a steam and pull of dog shit, if I'm going to ask, would you? What about this sequence here from Inouye? The missed right hand, you see the full extension, but then with the left, the uppercut. Did you see this right here? Yeah. Come on.

Break that down for us real quick. Yeah, he punched him twice. He kind of missed on the right hand, did he not? It's kind of like a dance move he's doing there. It's like Michael Flatley, the old right leg. decides I'm going. It's a little bit cartoonish, as you'd say. Beautiful.

It's something else. Also something else, guys. There was an event in Nigeria, our friend Adela Depot. We love Adé, was at this event. Did he happen to see what happened there at this event? There was a bit of a break in the action. I keep directing my questions to Pizzi because I love the fact that he's sort of oblivious to all these things and he reacts to them in real time on the program.

Did you see what happened at this event, Pt? No, we didn't see what happened in an event in Nigeria-Ariel. Are you, man. What the fuck is this? Yeah, exactly. Let's please enjoy it. Look at this, look at this, PT.

They're fighting, the two gentlemen, Adabayo, Japheth, and all of a sudden, there's a tear gas attack, Ptt. What the fuck,

there's a tear gas attack. Is that okay? Did you say he was at this? What the fuck? Oh my God. Fucking hell. Look at this. This is fucking bananas.

What the hell? He didn't that happen? He was being tear gas to the fucking buck so much, you know what? You know what? How about doing the corner? He is unbothered. Oh, my. He doesn't give a fuck.

You know, I actually forgot to ask out of it if he's okay. Yeah, nice of you. I'm fucking kind of piss, aren't you? Yeah, I should have reached out. Yeah, did you reckon your friend? He got fucking tear gassed? How'd you know he was there? He tweeted about it?

Oh, he was all over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's working those events all the time. He's sending in the text now to be like, I'm saying it. Hey, man. You already, make sure you are right.

I feel like this is just inspiration for the next karate combat. What you mean? They're just going to unleash tear gas. Fuck it. Just whatever. Wing C comes out with the tear gas,

the next karate combat, karate combat, yeah, and then toss Wing C in there. What do you think the owner's going to say this tomorrow on this show? Hey, Adet. Oh, we're just going to fly, bro. I was about to be so upset.

Hey, yo, Adi, we're live on the air here. We're talking about you on my show. Do you have a second? Yes, go ahead, my man. What happened? What happened? the tear gas at that event and we all, we were all concerned about your well-being.

Are you okay? Where are we? I'm alive. I don't believe you were really concerned because you would have called me straight away, but it's fine. It's okay. I survived. Okay.

I thank God. I know what it was? Yes, tell us. Obviously, so Carter F.A. So the two main event guys, one's like the biggest stream in Africa called Carter F.A. The other guy, portable, is like a local musician in the equivalent of the hood.

I'm trying to just be a bit brashy at the hood He's got a following of thousands and thousands That came to the event The event can't hold that And there was a little melee outside Tear gas was thrown outside But it kind of made its way through the doors of the venue And then they had to stop the event

Because it became a bit too much Yes it really The event was titled Chaos in the Ring And it was chaos in the ring Outside the Ring everywhere Wow was that the main event there That was, no, so that tear gas happened before the main event. So I'd say it was about four fights before the main event that tear gas happened.

But the main event, so I think all in all, all the fights still continued. Oh. Just a pause, a lull for about an hour. But once the tear gas had kind of cleared the arena they carried on. And how are you? I've been worried sick ever since I saw this. Oh, whatever. Whatever, my man.

No, I'm fine. Can I say you something really crazy? Sure. So I left the event, four flights into it, because I had to get back to the UK to do Conor Walk Eggington. I then got to the airport, my flight was cancelled, I came back. So I had missed all the tear gas. And I was like, what are you guys talking about? I was like, I was like, huh?

What do you mean it was tear gas? What a charm life. I was fortunate way. What a charm life. So I missed it by about an hour or so. You're some guy. It's unbelievable. Aye, yeah.

That's neat. right at the other depot? Well, we love you and don't worry we won't bring up Man United yesterday or, you know, No, no, no, no, no,

no, ask them about that. Ask them about that. For us on a roll. We won't bring any of that up, but we love you and we're so glad everyone's sending you their best and we hope

that you make a speedy recovery. Thank you very much. And thank you for the hoodie as well. I wear it with pride every day. Could we get a pick? Like something on the store? Should I show you a pick? No, no, no, we want something in the public.

You're an influencer. We want a story with a link. Okay. You know, when I next film and just say, look at this. Guys, this is a real fan right here, a real friend, I should say, excuse me. Yeah, there you go.

He spent like... Advertisers, like, I'm buying. Yeah, he spent like 50 quid on shipping, right? Keep going. 50 quid on shipping. 100 quid, and it's far too expensive, by the way, but the quality is good. Thank you.

Far too expensive. It's okay. Thank you, Aday. Much love. Cheers, brother. Bye-bye. Yeah, our own P.C. Carol, who's over there. He didn't even buy a sweatshirt, so, you know.

I thought, love, several. Yeah? You want to go, you want to go grab one and show us? Do you know what? No. Okay. Do you know what's happened? I just got a text message there.

What? Because Frank Warren was on these big Arsenal fans. Oh yeah, yeah. Man City winning? Everton are beating Man City. Wow. Our old club Everton. The Toffees.

Up the Toffies. Wow. Wait a second. Wait a second. 21 79th minute. O'Brien. This fucking league season has been crazy. That's the dude Jake O'Brien who fought Andrea Olofsky.

UFC, what was it? No. 73 or something? It's just a son I believe. You remember Jake O'Brien? Of course I do. Arlofsky was at the end of his contract. And they put him on the prelims against...

Irish, Jake, O'Brien, I believe. Where is he from? Chicago or something? Yeah. Yeah. Man, I'm just staring at that forest result 3-1 at Chelsea. I mean, it's crazy. Ta-U-O-1, he with two goals.

Okay, okay, okay. Back to the matters at hand. Here's our friend Alex Pereira, guys, reacting to being on the cover of the brand-new UFC 6. Wait, wait, wait, sound up. Oh, no, we can't play sound-up. Frank. Why am I being blamed with this?

Frank, you said no music. I remember you. Oh, he's so happy. Absolutely cool. And for being in the game, UFC 6. Shout out. Fully, fully, fully shaved, head, beard, everything. He looks so young, right?

Anyway, he's very excited. So that's coming out. When's that coming out, guys? May, June. End of June. Frank, you got a pre-ordered. Oh, shout out. Straight.

Speaking of boxing. Jake Paul was mentioned on Saturday Night Live. Not the UK Saturday Night Live guys. The American Saturday Night Live. Yeah. Wait. The UK won L.A. Jesus. What?

No. G.C. said it was must see TV. I say it's must TV. I thought you said that. I said I'm enjoying it. I saw the Super Mario sketch from. Yeah, I saw that. That was great.

Anyway, Olivia, is it Rodrigo or Rodrigo? Rodriguez. She's not part of like the, what? She's not part of like the... No, she's not Brazil. I told you, Rodrigo, Degra. Anyway, here's what she said about Jake Paul and S&L. We'd always talk about our futures.

I'd say, I really want to create music that explores the complexities of girls my age. And he'd say, well, one day I really want to beat up old guys on Netflix. And we both did it, hooray. Here's Jake replying, we had the vision. I told you that you would sell at stadiums, and then we both did.

Proud of you, F.R. Do you think he really liked the joke? Yes. Yeah. If you get mentioned on SNL, it's a win, right? It's a W in the chat. Proud of you. F.R.

F.R. Is F.R. I mean, father? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He basically was saying, Dad. Former opponent of one, Jake Paul, Nate Diaz, as we mentioned, to chill, but worth showing again, is absolutely ripped. He is a genetic jackhammer.

Do you see this, Pizzi? What the fuck? That is wild. See this, Beetsie? No, I didn't. You didn't see this. No. He looks great.

He looks great. And I can't wait. May 16th. Another guy who's looking great is Armist Truckee, and he now has two dates booked with R.A.F. He's fighting or competing on the 30th of May. And he's also competing on June 13th against El Cuckooie, Tony Ferguson. It's an unbelievable thing. The guy's just fighting every, like, forget every month.

He's fighting every two weeks. weeks now. Fighting, competing. What do you say? Wrestling? Something like that. Speaking of May 30th, did you guys happen to see the advancement of that feud happening over in Mexico, the wrestling feud, AAA with the masks? El Grande Americano? They're killing it. It's also on May 30th. It's the best wrestling angle in the business today. You saw this? You saw this, Connor? No, no, no, no. I'm just laughing. Because don't we know who Grande Americano is now? No, no, no. Well, we sort of know. theories. No, no, it's Chad Gable against Ludwig Kaiser. Ludwig Kaiser is German, and he has fully, the original story was Chad Gable, who's American,

American wrestler, real name is not Chad Gable, but he was playing this character where he would wear a luchador mask, and he was a luchador named El Grande Americano. And then a second El Grande Americano showed up, and it was Ludwig Kaiser, the German wrestler, who's part of Gunther's crew. And he's like, really, really, really, really. really immersed himself in this. And the crowd in Mexico adores him. WWBought AAA Undertakers the head booker there, and they adore him.

And he plays up like this very sort of white meat, baby face, pure, just loves everything about Mexico, dresses the part, speak Spanish as well. And he's German. Like he has an accent. But he's wearing the mask, so you can't really tell. Tall, slim, good-looking guy is now dating. one of the announcers who is of Mexican descent, so she's very popular as well.

And so now they're going to do a mask versus mask match where the loser has to take off their mask and be revealed. We showed the pull apart. We talked about it with Matt Hardy. Well, they had a contract signing on Saturday, and they signed the contract. And the bad guy, Grande Americano, Chad Gable, reveals after signing that he put in a clause there that the girlfriend now has to leave the promotion forever. And so she's upset and everyone's upset. and it was just a nice little tweet. It was a twist.

People were saying that Taker is like, he's writing, how would you say it, Andy, a novella? Like a Spanish soap opera? Yeah, like a deliola, yeah. That's what this has become. And that Taker is on fire. He's in his bag as a promoter and as a booker. And to me, it feels very 1980s.

Like there's something very sweet and innocent about the feud and also just pure. It's not overbooked. It's not overdone. It feels real. It's phenomenal stuff. I highly recommend it. It's May 30th.

I'm going to be watching that. I'm going to go out of my way to watch a AAA event, and I can't wait. Do you think he's brought back wrestler's court at AAA and shit in a few bags back there to make them perform better? It's not a bad show. Someone in the chat is saying that Ade Pigsardo to beat Benavides, that's absurd. What a bad take. I should have asked him about that. He picked Liverpool to beat Manchester, you know it as well.

He did as well. Speaking of Benavides, he's now number three in our pound for pound rankings, Shaheen is telling me. In our men's pound for pound boxing rankings, it's Ussick, Inouye, Benevides, Shakur, Bam Rodriguez, Dmitri Beville, Devin Haney, Archerbetterbeyev, Bootsennis, Jayopetia, Ayonovatya, Immanuel Navarate. They're tied for 10. That's a tremendous top 10, by the way. David Benavita is moving up four slots, and David Benavita is going to join us on the program tomorrow. So stay tuned for that. monster. Clarissa Shields, Katie Taylor, Gabriel Fendora,

Manda Serrano, Chantal Cameron, Alicia Baumgartner, Ellie Scotany up one, Mayor Down One, Aleve Turin, up one, Caroline Dubois now in the top ten. That's over at uncrown.com, your number one unbiased combat sports outlet on the planet. Frank, do we have any super chats? Yeah, we do. Hell yeah. It starts off with thoughts on the Madrid Open, predictions from Rome. Oh, he's talking about tennis.

Please take it away, G.C. Yeah, Yannick Center's unstoppable. And with Al-Qaraz out, he's probably going to roll through the French. What is this? Is this now? Yeah, this is right now. It's like they're on the clay court season now. It's lead up to the French Open, which is at the end of the month.

And Carlos Al-Carez is hurt. Yonik Center is just on a whole other planet. He beats his area of yesterday, 6162. He's insane. So, yeah, he's probably going to get the career grand slam at the end of May. Love it. There's your thoughts. What else?

What else? The Gator 117. those full card replays would be nice right now. Yes, especially early morning card. Have they fixed that yet, Jordan? I've made a push that, you know, maybe give like a 24-hour window. We need to hear back from my guy, David. dot Ellison at Paramount.com.

Okay, all right. On Crown is on the case, baby. Hell yeah. Listen, I think we got the PIP. We definitely did. We 100% did. I'll actually give it to you. You did.

Thank you. I said I'm fine without the PIP. No, the PIP was huge. The PIP was huge. What else, Frankie? What else? J-Dub. T9Y.

Ariel, love your show and excited from May 8th event. But why did you schedule it on a game three of the Nix playoffs? What kind of Nix fan are you? Let me tell you something. That was the first thing. First thing I noticed. This schedule is actually a disaster for me.

Disaster. I noticed that. At least it's not a home game. If we were going to play the Celtics, we would have been going up against a home game. So maybe we could watch together. Trust me, I'm distraught.

But our show is going to start game three, I think, starts at I think it starts at seven. Our show is 8.30 to 10 max, so you won't miss the game. It's tough, you know? Nix are, you know there's only one NBA team that has won a playoff series,

the last four playoffs, and it's the New York Knicks, the only NBA team that has won a playoff series at least one in the last four playoffs. I did know that. The LOL NICs are no more. And then I'm going to L.A. I'm going to miss game four, well, not miss, but I like watching with my kids.

I'm not going to see game four, five, six, and maybe even seven if we go that far. So that kind of bums me out. Also what bums me out is that my beloved Montreal Canadians have advanced to the second round, and they're playing, I don't know, I can't say beloved Buffalo Sabres, but I love the city of Buffalo, and more importantly, it's citizens and inhabitants. and now it's going to be Montreal versus Buffalo, Frank, I'm torn. Well, you let me know where you're... I don't know, you know.

May the best team win. I hope everyone has fun. Look, the advantage is if they both make it to the finals, or one of them makes it to the finals, then maybe a Canadian team wins for the first time and how long? Well, not if Buffalo wins. That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to look on the brights.

Adjacent. The hubs are your squad, though, no? No, no, no. Ultimately, push comes to shove. they're going toe to toe. I'll always lean towards Montreal. I just wish we were playing Philly, you know, like one of these,

Carolina. Did you see they have that skate with the beer in it? It's crazy. Anyway, I wish we were playing one of those teams. It's going to have to be Buffalo, so be a, what a game yesterday. I know Jordan was watching.

None of you were watching. Nine shots on goal. Okay. All right. And they want you. Well, you were watching. I mean, I sent out of abstex as soon as it went zero. Yeah, G.C was in the chat.

I misinterpreted your text. You wrote HABs Z, Z, Z, Z, Z, Z. I thought that implied, like, that they're boring. No, it was just like... Like, you were sleeping while watching them. That's usually what the Z implies. Let's go. Oh, I thought you were doing like a French celebration, actually.

Okay, listen, Mia Kappa, I thought you were saying they're boring because they only shot nine times. Oh, that's sick. Yeah, they're actually a very fun young team. They just, you know... At least shots on goal on a playoff win, I believe. Ever. for the Canadian's correct ever

anyone ever ever yeah tremendous what else frankie what else mr jade lee hey ariel can you get stung gun don quion kim on the show he was recently when mcgregor on his

youtube and shared about almost fighting mike perry also won physical asia on netflix against rob whittaker ptie can you get us to scoop yeah yeah let me have a word i'll swing down now after the show all right cool cheers mate uh what else frankie what else Slito says, Rick and Pizzi, thank you for embodying the spirit of prop quiz.

Fun, banger appearance from you both. Oh, you guys were on that? Who won? Who's to check? Go watch it if you want to find out. Clearly not, Rick. Who's to check? Who's to check?

What else, Frank? What else? Jake from Wendy City. Pizzi, any Irish sports you can recommend for me to check out? Oh, yeah. Do you like Gaelic football, hurling, et cetera? Yeah, I literally watch any game of hurling at all. It's the best sport to watch.

It's an incredible sport. You don't need to have a team. Wait a second. Wait a second. It's starting to interrupt. Speaking, where's my schleider? This just occurred to me. Wow, where the fuck is it?

Yeah. Where is it? There's only one other guy who sits here. Great question. Do you see? Where's the schloid? Who's the schloid? Where is the schloid?

I don't know. Where is my ball? I love that ball. I mean, it has to just be in the thing. It's so crazy. People are taking my stuff here, PT. Could you believe that? Do you see this PT?

You need to look into this. That's fucking illegal. It is. Teft is illegal. So what do we watch? Hurling, Gaelic football, what do we got? Yeah, football, there's new rules on the football. I was only speaking one of my friends yesterday

around the piss, I told us that earlier. Amo shout out, he was like, do you know the rules of fucking football? All these lads kind of congregating around the arch, I don't like it. And I was like, you know what? I just fucking Hurlans better, man. Hortland's better to watch.

Dublin aren't good of Hurlans. So people be like, oh, the fuck with a Dublin prick like you know about Hurlund. Not as much as you probably, but I like watching it. Yeah, I like it too. What's, uh... Fastest field sport in the world,

a mixture of hockey and murder. they say. Wow. Wow. Wow. All right. What else, Frankie? What else? A Spooky 2303. Performance of the night bonus should have went to Joe Martinez. That main event intro was amazing. I've been saying it for years.

Stop that. You're saying the Big Moes Barton, essentially. No, no. He's coming up. What else, Frank? What else? Ezra. Burgers to go, 1, 2, 3, 4. Homsut should steal Ariel's take at the presser. What does that mean? I have no idea. My take?

Yep. well wait their reply all right what else frankie what else dunks and jordan 82 are you guys going to the fight on Saturday yes we have a suite we'll see you there

da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-ha-ha what else what else the drusio why can't jdm fight Morales I don't know about that I don't want that two people going in different direction I do not want that makes no sense what you're talking about

And what else, Frankie? And lastly, Combat Theater. Cheers to Kofi Kyi's 20 years at WWE. Is it Kofi or Kofi? Kofi Kingston of the new day. New. Day rocks. New.

Shocking one. Did you guys see this? Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods parting ways with WWE. Now, there were reports from several wrestling outlets that said these two gentlemen had long-term deals. Worth a pretty penny, reportedly in the seven-figure range. and it was just, it was posed to them, hey, we want you to take a pay cut and, you know, we want you to take less money

because we don't have anything for you from a creative standpoint that justifies your pay. Now again, long-term deals. And they were like, no thanks. This is reported by multiple outlets. And so they agreed to part ways, which is a wild thing. Usually if you have a long-term deal,

that would suggest that you are owed whatever you are, you know, signing up for. But in this case, this is what has been promoted. Excuse me, reported. But these are legends. Kofi Kingston, one of the all-time best, Xavier Woods. I mean, that is Kofi, Xavier, obviously Biggie, he got injured, one of the greatest and most popular tag teams in WWE history.

And I always thought that the New Day heel turn should have been a bigger deal. Like, they should have made it out to be a bigger deal. Is that common for WWV? The new WWE or the old WWE. Either. I'm not familiar enough with how the contracts are structured and that idea. But the idea that if they had a long-term deal coming and saying, we want you to take a pay cut, feels like a way just to get out of a deal, right? Like, there really isn't much protection or repercussions. I would be long if I said that I report or cover wrestling at this level. We do know in the world

of MMA, you sign a six-fight deal, you lose one fight, you could get cut. Yeah. So there's got to be outs, and we do know that it's a one-way street, right? You win three fights out of the six-fight deal. You can't say, hey, I'd like to go sign with these guys, right? But they could cut you. So it's all in favor of the promoter. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a similar structure for pro wrestling. It just feels like a very unceremonious way to end one of the most popular runs in the history of the business. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I was seeing the reporting on this. They asked for their release in response to that, right? and were granted it unless I'm mistaken.

100%, but it's sort of akin to... You know what the answer is going to be, right? You're saying to them, I want you to take a pay cut. You know that they don't want to, right? Would they have had the option to remain on the roster, get paid what they wanted, or would they have just said, we're terminating you? Or was this them taking it into their own hands

and saying, like, if this is how the company's going to treat me on? Like, I don't know enough about WWE contracts and that. And we don't know just yet. And at some point they're going to talk. about it, but also, as we've seen in sports, sometimes things get out and they're positioned a sort of way to soften the blow, right? We've parted ways with said head coach when in reality, we fired said head coach. Or, you know, this person quit.

It's not even just in sports. We see this with executives at companies, right? Mutually deciding or relationships or whatever. everybody wants to kind of have their framing of it and be it the most favorable for whoever's you know protecting their own their own ego and status but I'm I'm just interested to understand has WWE operated like this before where they say we know that we gave you this deal but we can't honor there have been a lot of releases do I know if it's happening at the very yeah I mean you know what maybe we should have one of these guys on the show this week and ask them these questions because

this is a really big and when I say that that. I don't mean Kofi and Xavier because those guys can't speak, but one of the wrestling reporters, like a Sean Ross sat because this is a... They can't speak because they have some kind of... Oh, it's usually like 30 days, 60 day, 90 day. It's usually a little bit

harder. Yeah. Unless it's like a carrying cross whose deal actually expired and he was free the next day. Remember that? Yeah. We got them on and I still couldn't believe that it worked out that way. Why is it on the wrestlers, though, to be like, hey, like we don't have a storyline for you, so you got to take the cut here. Why isn't it on the WWE to be like, hey, we got to get creative here.

We're paying these guys a lot of money. Let's see what they want to do also. These are very good questions. And they know what they're doing, right? That's the point. They know when they're saying that you don't have an option. And now it's like you can either take less money or find something else. What if the wrestlers say, what if those guys say like, no.

That's what I'm curious enough. What happens then? Can they sever the contract? Right. We know in the UFC if they want to cut you, they can cut you. Yeah. And so I'm curious if WWE is the same.

Because we don't really hear about, I don't know enough, but I don't remember hearing anything related to WWE like this before. Especially with guys like that, like Kovina and Xavier Woods are beloved, like absolutely beloved. So,

a bit of a shame. What else, Frankie? What else? That was the last one. Oh, that was the last one. That was the last one. What a day. Tomorrow on the program, guys,

As I said, Asim Zaidi, the president of karate combat, going to answer some of these questions regarding the state of the promotion. David Benavides, joining us as well. Daniel Dubois, the dynamite one, joining us. And an old friend, Luke Rockhold, going to join us, to talk about being a part of team Humza. What's it been like training with Humza? What's it been like, you know, being in there with him and Armin as well?

on Wednesday we'll have Johnny Eblen on he's been training with Sean Strickland so I wanted to get a sense from both camps what's it been like with two great champions two great fighters Luke Rockhold on the show tomorrow to talk about it all and hopefully we'll talk about a game one victory for your New York

Knickerbockers as well for now though as I said to the team hard out 457 Pizzi enjoy your bank holiday Pizzi oh yeah no it's fucking going to be great. Yeah?

Well, that's it. Wait, you're logging off? He's been logged off. You, you moved the hand there, like you were logging off. What is it?

Summer Fridays, Pete? Yeah, what's going on? What's summer Fridays? Where's your hurry? Where's your hat? I want to always screw up. What's your hurry? Where's your hat?

What is that? I've never heard that in my life. He says it a lot, so continue yourself lucky. Listen. That is looking, Man City. Here's your hat. What's your hurry?

Wait, did Man City win? Three all, man. Sounds like a crazy. You're kidding me. Wait, since we last checked, it went from 2-1 to 3-all? Yeah. Holy smokes. And Everton went up 3-1.

Oh, it's over? Yes. Yeah. Wow. City scored two in the last 10 minutes. The running is going to be fucking wild. I love that. I love that.

Okay, so at the moment, wow, that was a big, you know two points drop for man city huge huge wait there's so waita and then everyone was saying arsenal gonna be the bottle job here's city fucking bottling and now what i don't mind it i don't mind it they got brentford next and who does arsenal have next let's see arsenal's got bottom tier for the rest of the west ham oh they're gonna lay the smack down on the hammers uh like crazy ice pizzi look at this crazy ice pizzi is very good pizzi's feeling himself because united is all of a unrelevant again. Congratulations. Champions League. Congratulations. You won't

be there next year, mate. Hey, we might. We might if we went to more. Thanks to everyone. Thanks to all I guess. Thanks to all of you. Back to our same time place to say peace and we're out here. Hello, hello. I'm good. How are you?