The Ariel Helwani Show - Combat sports gone crazy, UFC 323 preview, Ali Revival Act hearing, more | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

After a week away, The Boys in the Back return to preview UFC 323, but first, they discuss the TKO-backed Ali Revival Act (02:43) and some of the wild announcements and rumored bookings across the com...bat sports landscape (13:53).They quickly touch on UFC's new meal plan (33:20), before previewing UFC 323 from top to bottom (39:20) and making picks (1:27:36).Finally, they deliver their P4P Vans (1:38:55), listen to your voicemails (1:53:47) and answer your Super Chats (2:38:40).

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But boys in the back But boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. What is good, the boys in the back are back after a week off for lovely Thanksgiving holiday. We are back in your lives on this beautiful Thursday, December 4th, and boy did we miss you. And boy, do we have a lot to get into today. I am one third of the boys in the back. Connor Birx, join alongside me as always. New York, Rick.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Hello. Eric Jackman. I was trying to think of a nickname on the fly there. Where did we get? Anything get like half-baked in there? For some reason, I was thinking a salt poppy. I almost called you Rick Poppy, but that just doesn't make me much sense. So I decided to just call you, you know, by your government, New York, Rick.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Frankie, the final third of the boys in the back. How are we doing back there? Frankie, you're doing great. Yeah. Metroid Prime 4-Dade. Oh, sick. Sick. To be here with you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Is that out on the? the normal switch as well? Yes, sir. Switch one and switch two. I might do you a favor. I might get Metroid Prime and play it, and then we can discuss it. Oh, we will. I've never done a run-through of a Metroid before.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Well, you've got a lot to look forward to. Have you played all of them up until this one? Except for Metroid Prime 3. Okay. Has he played? Wow, you're skipping Metroid Prime 3 and going straight before? Come on, we got a lot to cover. You remember 2022, the day of the PFL World Championships here in New York City.
Starting point is 00:01:30 World Cups going on. We were going to meet before the the fights to watch the USA game and I was about to walk into the bar and I get a text from Frankie and he's like, hey man, I'm not going to be able to make it to watch the game. Oh, why? Why couldn't he make it?
Starting point is 00:01:44 You probably should have told me that before I got dressed, left my house, showed up to the bar. Double-checked that I was going to be there. And double-checked you were going to be there and I'm waiting at the bar now. And he's just like, oh, you know, feeling under the weather. It later comes out. He just wanted to stay home
Starting point is 00:01:59 and beat Metroid on the game. And I did it. On the Game Boy? Yeah, Metroid 2. Metroid 2. All right. Is this like a, I'll just, I'll look it up after the show. I'll look it up after the show. We don't need to get too deep in it. All right, yes, a lot to get into today. We'll do voicemails. We'll do super chats like we always do.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Pound for Pound rankings, Vans in honor of Josh Vann. So we kept the big, the big yellow bust on the table. Where will it rank? Who else? Who's to check? Betts, Parley Pals. UFC 323 preview. We will get into all of that, but before we do, a couple news and notes to get into, as usual, we'll start. Actually, at the Pat McAfeecio yesterday, he had on Nick Kahn
Starting point is 00:02:41 CEO of WWEs, also on the board of TKO, and he had this to say when talking about the new Muhammad Ali Expansion Act and how Zufa Boxing wants to work with the rankings for their new boxing league. Take a listen. The Muhammad Ali Enhancement Act, what we're looking to do, everything that the act already has will stay the same. If you're a fighter and you want to do it the old way with the World Boxing Confederation, and by the way, the gentleman who runs that organization, this is supposed to be a non-profit organization, going into Canello Crawford, said he couldn't stay in a regular hotel room. He needed a suite. He wanted to make sure that his tickets were front row. He wanted to make sure there were ample number of tickets.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It all seems quite odd to me that a sport would be run that way or quite odd to us. So in the Enhancement Act, all of that, if you're a fighter and you want to continue with it, nothing changes. This is presenting an or a different option, where if you want to come into a unified boxing organization like Zufa or anyone else who wants to create a unified boxing organization, come here, fight with us, we'll have our own ranking system. The champion will fight the number one contender, just like in the UFC. And if the number one contender is not available, then the champion fights the number two contender. So rather than 17 weight classes and 15 different championships and people getting stripped for no reason, let's do it in incredible way.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So he's making this case for the Muhammad Ali Enhancement Act. I called it expansion before there, my mistake. No, I believe it is actually called the Expansion Act. It is also called the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act. I've seen multiple names for it. I don't think enhancement is actually even one of the correct ones. Either way, we know what we're talking about. They're trying to, what they say, not make changes, make additions on to the Muhammad Ali Act.
Starting point is 00:04:37 The case that Nick makes in there and we have heard Dana make before is this is not a changing of anything that's going on. It's just a separate thing that's going to happen. Now you can choose either or. You can choose between these two things when in reality we know that some of these things are in conflict with each other, right? There is going to be a natural friction between these two alternatives, right? Them talking about organizations like the UFC, having the power to create their own rankings, having the power to create their own belts and have that structure within. And then a system that has been operating in boxing for many, many years already, which exists to have the governing bodies, the multiple belts, the freedom of fighting for whichever belts and opportunities are available to. you. These things are in conflict. So the idea that it's like you can choose between. Yes, you can
Starting point is 00:05:29 technically choose between, but like there's going to be a natural tension that prevents people from just having unlimited options here. Another issue that you took with it and you took to Twitter with these as well is what he said on the back end of it. This will be like the UFC. The champion will fight the number one contender in our own ranking system. And if the number one contender isn't available, the champion will fight the number two contender. For sure. Yeah, that sounds logical. That's smart. You included that quote in there with the graphics of UFC 324 and UFC 325 main events. Justin Gathe v. Patty Pemblin and Alex Wokinovsky versus Diego Lopez, the rematch of a fight that took place this April and a media rematch for Alexander Volkinovsky.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, that sure does not look like the champion fighting the number one contender. Is that what that looks like to you? Yeah, no, it doesn't. It definitely doesn't. One of them, the champion, isn't even fighting, but they're putting an interim belt on the line. Yeah, one of them, the champion's not fighting, and the number one contender is a guy named Armand Sarukin, who is not involved in that fight at all. And in the other fight, it's the number two contender in Diego Lopez fighting
Starting point is 00:06:29 Alexander Volkanowski, when the number one contender, Mavzar Evloev, is available and could be fighting Alexander Volkanowski. We've just decided that he's not going to get a title shot. And so you inherently can understand why when Nick Kahn and others from TKO are out there being like, look, all we're trying to do is simplify things, guys. We're trying to create this system where the champions fight the contenders, and this is not seen in boxing for many years. They never make the big fights. We're going to make the big fights. You look over to their side of the fence and you look at the UFC and they are doing
Starting point is 00:07:01 exactly what boxing does. They are not making the biggest fights. They are not making the ones with the number one contenders. And so it's very hard for me to take at face value, this idea that like TKO is coming into save boxing when we look to MMA and they are doing exactly what boxing does. And if you watch the extension of that clip, Pat McAfee responds and he's just like, well, yeah, no, that's what makes sense. That would just common sense. natural order to do it like that. And Nick Kahn's like, yep, that's what we're going to do. But to your point, the UFC is doing the exact opposite of that right now in three of its most popular divisions, 145, 155, and potentially 170 with a fight between Islam Makashev and Kamaro Usman.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It's like we've already done it twice with the first two paper views of this Paramount Plus era, and we might do it again. We might just do it one more time later in the year as well. Spoiler alert, we will continue to do it for fucking ever. There is no point where the UFC will decide that this is a meritocracy anymore, and we're just going to give the number one guy in the rankings the title shot every single time. It's bad business. It's bad business. So on one hand, I credit the UFC with if their intention is to make fights that people want to see,
Starting point is 00:08:08 regardless of the rankings, I'm on board with that. But to then go out and say, we're going to fix the boxing model, and the way we're going to do that is going to be by having the champions fight the number one contenders. it's just not like that's not true and that's not what your business model is that is not what you're going to do I actually am with you if they just came out and they were just transparent they were like whoever puts on the most fun scraps whoever's the most popular that's who's going to get the title shot that is how we do this instead of meritocracy we got to fix these rankings you know we're going to fix it AI meta is coming in yeah so there's a bit of talking out of both sides of the mouth especially when it
Starting point is 00:08:41 comes to one part of the business and another but I do think that there's something important being raised here, which is that there, there, I mentioned that there's going to be a tension between a model that has a league that has its own rankings and its own belts with the boxing model where there's multiple belts, there's sanctioning bodies, there's different promotions that work together to put on these fights. There's going to be a natural tension there. There's also going to be a natural tension for fighters in terms of thinking about the Muhammad Ali Act and the protections that it provides the boxers and this idea that I don't have to deal with these sanctioning bodies anymore if I go to a promotion like Zufa boxing where there's one organization, there's one
Starting point is 00:09:18 belt, I know how to get to it, presumably, right? If you ask Lerow Murphy, he'd be asking how the fuck do I get to the UFC title or Mavsar Evlo of how to fuck do I get to the UFC title. But presumably it may be as a clearer and easier path, if you're somebody like Terrence Crawford and you wake up and the WBC is like, hey, pay me $300,000 to sanction fights. And he's like, what? What do I owe you? You should be paying me. I am the one of providing this entertainment. I'm the one carrying this belt and making it more prestigious because I own it. There is probably going to be a section of people that are like, no, that option that that the Zufa boxing folks are presenting seems appealing to me. Like that actually makes sense
Starting point is 00:09:58 to me having dealt with what happens with some of these sanctioning bodies. So I think there's going to be a tension between the different types of structures. I also think there's going to be attention just between people in the boxing community who have dealt with some of these sanctioning bodies and have had bad experiences going, know what they're talking about actually makes a lot of sense. There will absolutely be boxers that go and join Zufa boxing with those intentions. Obviously, the money behind this, the people that have been put into positions to make this successful, have had a track record of making the organization successful. They're going to get boxers.
Starting point is 00:10:31 What's interesting to me in 2026 and as Zufa boxing continues to grow is how long does it take for them to get a huge name? Like a Terrence Crawford. Where when do they start poaching these massive names over to Zoufa boxing and that title starts growing in prestige and then now now it really starts getting convoluted and how long do they actually stick to this? Oh, we're going to make the number one versus number two contenders and everything like that. It's going to be fascinating to watch and, you know, I believe they're doing the hearing right now. It's finished, but it just happened moments ago. Yeah, as details come out with with this expansion, enhancement, revival act, whatever you may call it, it's a. It's a. fascinating time in combat sports. Yeah, and at that hearing, we had members of Congress talking to members of TKO, including Lawrence Epstein, as well as Lonnie Ali, the widow of Muhammad Ali, as well as Andy Foster, the California State Athletic Commissioner, the lead
Starting point is 00:11:27 director. And so there's going to be, you know, it seemed like from the parts that I was following of the hearing, it seemed like they were asking appropriate questions. in terms of, okay, what's going to happen to the current protections that are in place? How is this amending them? How are we going to ensure that everything is fair? I'm heartened to see those questions asked, but I do wonder if this is, like, the train has left the station on this and that, like, TKO is a little too buttoned up, that ultimately they're going to be able to push this through regardless of the potential questions that
Starting point is 00:12:02 is still raises. So we'll see what happens from here. Buttoned up, man. And they have power. They have the power players and they have the power players. and they have the power with WWE and UFC and now they're adding this, the relationships that they have.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Just think about the fact that Nick Kahn is somebody who like select interviews, right? You hear from him from time to time. He's a very important person. Him being unavailable is a good thing because it makes when he does speak something, an event, it makes it important. Yesterday, he's doing the rounds, man.
Starting point is 00:12:33 He's doing the rounds ahead of this to make sure that people know he's on Inside the Ring with Max Keller. He's on McAfee. I saw Daniel Cormier with Nikon. He was making sure that the word is out there that like TKO is coming in to save the day on boxing and the way they're going to do it is this Ali Revival Act.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And so... They also ain't here to do a mom-and-pop boxing league that's helping the fighters out. Look at who else they have in their portfolio. W.W.E. and UFC. They're coming with attempts to take this over. Yeah. And they have good momentum.
Starting point is 00:13:00 They have good leverage. They have good track record. So I do think they're going to be pretty successful in trying to get what they want done. They also obviously have political capital and political power through some of their relationships with the existing presidency and cabinet and all these other parts. But I do wonder, like, you know, if the right people in Congress have done their research
Starting point is 00:13:22 and been informed and are studying up on what the protections are and what could potentially be lost here, that maybe there are amendments made to what they're proposing, right? TCO could be coming in with this specific act and they could say, we like some of this, but some of this we don't. And let's try to change that. So we'll see where this thing ultimately ends up and what gets past, if anything at all. But, you know, it had its day in court, at least.
Starting point is 00:13:46 It had, you know, it was presented and people were able to ask the question. So at least it's going through a fair process. All right, let's go back to the matchups part of this. Sure. So our last show was November 20th. Yes. In the last half month, since November 17th,
Starting point is 00:14:00 I believe, was the day that Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul was announced. We have gotten the announcements of Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul. Yep. Justin Gaichi versus Patty Pimlet for an interim title Alexander Volcanowski getting a rematch against Diego Lopez for the featherweight title
Starting point is 00:14:16 Rumors are now swirling betting favorite to get the title shot against Islam Makashov is one Kamar Ushman so we might get another undeserving title shot at 170 and now we're hearing rumors as well of Katie Taylor potentially fighting in a
Starting point is 00:14:33 boxing match against Ronda rousey. This is all happened in like the last 20 days and it's just like what is going on but chito is chito there no that frank what's the fucking going on bro there it is uh pretty sure i was like you frank you have that thing ready to roll baby uh yeah man what is going on what are these fights that are getting made why are they getting made and what is going on it is a bizarre time but circling back to something we kind of said a little while ago, if we were just transparent about this, I really don't have much of an issue.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But let me start with maybe the UFC side of it, right? If on the UFC side of it, they're like, if Dana White would come out and instead of, you know, this being like, ah, you know, Armin and Justin are so deserving and they're the best guys available and we're going to do it. He was just like, you know what? Ilya's on the shelf. He said it himself. Ilya's not going to be available in the first quarter.
Starting point is 00:15:33 We have to move this division on. We're going to give it to Armin and Justin. I mean, we're going to give it to Patty and Justin, and Armin might get next. Just talk to us as if we're not stupid. Like, talk to us as if we can understand these things. You know what? Mavsar was the number one contender, but we just don't think this is going to be a fantastic fight.
Starting point is 00:15:51 We've got to sell tickets. We're going down to Perth. We're going to put Diego Lopez in there with Volkanowski because this is the fight that fans actually want to see. You have been telling us all along that you don't want to see Momsar. We're listening to you. We're putting a guy in there that's. going to give him a hell of a scrap. We saw this fight already once. It was a great
Starting point is 00:16:08 fight. We're doing it again. If we were just transparent about all these things, I'd have a lot less of an issue instead of pretending that there's some kind of like meritocracy here or that there's some kind of like justification for doing these things. If they went into it and said, Kumar Usman will get a shot against Iliate, uh, Ilya against Islam Makachev because he was one of the best welter weights of all time. Islam wants to be one of the best welter weights of all time. We're going to do it. We're going to solidify that. And then we'll get back to order. We'll start knocking off some of those contenders. Gary, Shavkaa Rachmanov, guys like that
Starting point is 00:16:36 will get right to him. Just say this. I don't know if anybody's going to really poke too many holes in that or have much of an issue. There might be the fans of those individual fighters that are like, what about Lorone Murphy? What about Masar Evloev? But ultimately, if the UFC is putting on fights that people want to see, I think
Starting point is 00:16:52 they can get over that. But it's the, it's the shadowiness of it. It's the faux justifications of all this nonsense that kind of caused the friction. All right, so I think the shadowiness, but I do disagree with like the fans just accepting it because I think there's just like the case for Lorone Murphy is right there. Like he's undefeated. He's nine and oh. He's coming off a massive knockout win. Like it's not like
Starting point is 00:17:12 it wouldn't be a good scrap with Volk. Same thing at 170. It's just like I actually think a Michael Morales fight with Islam would be more exciting than with Kamarouzman. It's sort of just like, how can I be a fan of this sport if I'm never going to see the matchups that I want to see? Yeah. And it's a fair point and the justifications are going to be different for each. Maybe that applies more for like the Diego Lopez one where it's like, yeah, that dude's going to come in and scrap versus like there will be less people who are expecting
Starting point is 00:17:40 a banger out of Lerone Murphy or Mavsar. Whereas with the Kamaru case, to your point, like maybe Michael Morales might be the most exciting or interesting option. Even at Carlos Proches because if it's standing, maybe he COs him or if he goes to the mad, Islam will probably finish it. Either way,
Starting point is 00:17:56 just talk to us like we're adults. I'm curious to see with the 323 press conference tonight. I doubt Dana will be at the seasonal press conference tomorrow. Maybe he will be. And then obviously he's going to have to do media after 323. I'm wondering if he's going to get pressed on this topic at all. I'm sure somebody will ask and I'm sure it will be sometimes we'll get into these guys. What did you say? Lanay? All right. What did he say? What did he say? I just don't see it. I think it's just too easily dismissed. They just have to roll on and
Starting point is 00:18:25 move on. But it does have me wondering like what how can you how can you look at a Lerone Murphy or how can you look at a mob star and just be like yeah sorry like what do you say to somebody like that who's in that position that's like I worked my entire life for this I know I'm in position you're not going to get it Ian Gary feels like a guy who like you could probably look at and he would accept it because he understands the promotional aspect of it and also probably thinks I'll win one more fight and get it anyway he doesn't feel like a guy who's going to be like shelved right Ian yeah Ian Gary doesn't feel like a momstar or Lorone where they're like nah maybe you stay over here for a bit.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Ian probably will get it at some point. A guy like Carlos or a guy like Michael, they'll probably get it at some point. But you just have to wait till Kamaru maybe does the business. Again, we don't know that that's going to happen. It just seems like all the talk is heading in that direction. But how do you look at the roster and justify that? And then I will circle back one more time to Nick Khan going on Pat McAfee
Starting point is 00:19:25 and talking about, we're going to fix boxing because we do this. And you just don't. You just don't do it. You do the exact opposite. The most are on their own thing, too. Like, for them, if they end up matching up for a number one contender, number one contender in quotes there, it's essentially their title fight.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Because if you lose, you're never, ever seeing a title shot. Well, it's perfect for the UFC because they just solved one problem. It's like we have two guys who feel like they deserve it, and they're going to be clamoring for it. Let's knock one of them off, and then we only have to worry about one. All right. We can sit here and complain all we want, you know, bitch and moan about the matchmaking. Let's do something to fix it.
Starting point is 00:20:00 How would we have done it? First I want you to do, out of the five matchups we listed, Paddy Gachie, Diego Lopez versus Volk, Islam Usman, which obviously has not been booked yet. There's just rumors of it potentially happening. Anthony Joshua versus Jake Paul and Katie Taylor versus Ronner Rousey also not been booked. There's just, you know, light rumors, mentions of it potentially happening. Out of those five, rank them in terms of absurdity.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Patty Gachie is number one for me. Number one absurd. It's actually my fifth most absurd. It's the most absurd. I'll tell you the reason. Okay. The title. Match those guys up all day.
Starting point is 00:20:36 That's fine. That's what I'm saying. It's a great fight. It's a rightful fight. No problem. You just doesn't need an interim title on it. That's why it's my five. The interim title, part of it makes it the most absurd because it's like we didn't need,
Starting point is 00:20:48 first of all, we didn't need to do an interim title with it at all. And second of all, how is Arm and Sarukian not in a fight for the interim title? I'm with you. I'm with you. But I think that's why it makes this list so absurd because let me just take you down, let me just walk you down to land here. Go. Olympic gold medalist, undisputed champion, two-weight world champion, one of the top
Starting point is 00:21:09 three, if not the greatest female boxer of all time fighting against the woman who has not fought in a decade in boxing a sport she has never had a professional fight in. I'm changing my number one. You're right. That is absurd. There's no argument. That's number one. That's numbered one.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I'm going to shift Patty and Justin down to number two. That is the most absurd by a lot. My number two is also the other boxing match, Anthony Joshua versus Jake. Okay, so another Olympic old medalist, heavyweight champion, and then the size is where it gets absurd to me, five inches tall or six inches of reach, it's going to be like 20 plus pounds heavier. I agree that that one is pretty absurd on its face, but why I will have that one rank lower is because the absurdity is the selling point. is because it's it's a what's what do they say like in the tech it's it's the function not the not the glitch or so like it that that's what it's supposed to be doing you are supposed to believe that this is absurd the same way you were supposed to believe mike tyson versus jake was absurd
Starting point is 00:22:14 the same way you were supposed to believe jake versus tank was a assert it's a feature it's a feature not a bug fair point fair point and so that's how i feel about uh jake and and joshua that's my last That's my last because, because, again, that's what is, that is what he is supposed to do. You're signing up to go to the circus. Correct. If you show up at the circus, don't be surprised if you see a clown. Exactly right. That one's advertised as the circus, and I'm going to the circus.
Starting point is 00:22:41 What's your number three? My number three is going to be Diego and, uh, and Volk. Diego and Volk. Just because it's the rematch? It's, it was Volk's last fight, and it's like, we just saw this and there were two guys that you could have put in there. Maybe even. like Al Jemaine Sterling as well, who like, if we're doing the whole, we'll talk about Camaro and
Starting point is 00:23:01 we'll talk about Camaro in Islam in a second. If you're doing the whole like, you know, legacies and these things matter, Al Jameen Stirling is a former champion, you know, a long reigning bantamweight champion, a fantastic fighter. There were, there were multiple guys you could have put in there before going back to the Diego well. To me, it's just like, it was the most of the, all, like, Patty versus Justin isn't out of nowhere, right? It's like, we just spun it up. This one was like, we knew Vogue was going to fight in February in Perth, and all we had to do was pick the opponent, and it was like, who's it going to be? I don't think a single person two months ago was thinking Diego Lopez is going to be that guy. There's nobody who was
Starting point is 00:23:41 thinking that, because it was his last fight and he just beat him. He got his shot. You win two, three more, you come back. Lorone, Mavsar, even Aljo, somebody like that, it just was a layup. That one, to me, it's just like the performance that Diego put on. It was one of the fights of the year. It was an incredible knockout. I still can't justify it. I think it should have been Lorone and then Moves are after that. If it was John Silva, I would have been fine.
Starting point is 00:24:06 The Diego won and just, I don't know. I'm with you. Usman, though. Okay. Tell me on that, because I have it four. One and three in his last four. Yep. The one win since 2021.
Starting point is 00:24:15 The one win being over the number 10 ranked contender and walking Buckley. Two losses to Leonette. Edwards, who's number nine. He's ranked number eight, period. He has fought one time in the last 25 months. So he's not active. He's not on a great run. It's solely based off his resume as a longstanding champion in the late teens and early 2020s. It's an absurd title shot when you have you have four contenders that could be put into this. Shavgaat Raghmanov, Ian Gary, Carlos projects, Michael Morales, all can be put in over it. That's the reason I like it. A little bit. I don't love it. It's still absurd. But you do the Camaroo, the legacy fight, and then all
Starting point is 00:25:03 of a sudden those other contenders fight each other, and you've got a, you've got an order. Legacy fight. Are people sitting here and being like, John Jones beat the heavyweight goat? It's just like, Stipe was fucking 44 years old and was, he literally put out a fire before he went to MSG. The only, the, for that one, it's a little harder because in that position, position, I think Steepa didn't really have a lot of juice. People knew his name, but it's not like Steepa was like a megastar. Tom, maybe even less than Stepe, but close enough that it would have been justifiable. In this one, I do think there's an argument to be made that, like, Kamaro Usman's face
Starting point is 00:25:41 and name on a poster opposite Islam Makachev is going to move the needle slightly more than like a Morales, an Ian Garry, one of those guys that is like, they're on the rise. I also think there's just a lot of time for them. Look, don't get me wrong. I need to be very clear. I think it would be silly. I think it would be very silly. All of these are absurd.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Every single one of these is absolutely absurd. And again, Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua, intentionally so in my mind. But all these are absurd. But this one at least has the semblance of some kind of logic. It's like, Kamaru Usman is a proven pay-per-view guy. He was the champion. We're putting him in there. We're going to give...
Starting point is 00:26:19 Look, you're doing Islam a favor and Kamaru a favor, quite frankly. But I'm okay if you are transparent And I'm like, yes, we're doing him a favor We're sending Kamara Usman out He gets one last shot And he does it against Islam Makachev He just got to this division Versus the second best guy in this division
Starting point is 00:26:35 In this division, in my opinion I also have to admit something After 322 I was leaving my apartment And my dormant and was like Islam versus Usman Okay I was like fuck no man
Starting point is 00:26:47 And he's like no no man That's what it needs to be So I guess there's an argument you could make The casual fan. The casual fan will know Camaro. I have this one friend who's like, he is textbook, like casual. I'm not even saying this in a bad way. Just like textbook, casual, I can see the text now after the fight gets booked.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And he's like, oh, shit. Bangor. Bangor. Camarro's back, baby. That's the only argument for it, though. There's a tiny kernel of logic and that's the only argument. In terms of, is Camaro going to be competitive with Islam? No, no chance.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Is Camaro going to win that fight? No chance. Is there any real reason to do this other than to, like, give Kamaru 1 on the way out and Islam an easy title events? No, not really. If you want to give him a fight, it's any of those other guys. But it at least has that kernel of logic. I don't really see the logic in the other ones. Okay, so final rankings, mine is Katie Taylor Ronda Rousie, Anthony Joshua, Jake Ball, Islam Usman, Diego Volk, Patty.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Roddy, Katie. He's fucking insane. How is that even? It's insane. on the Katie Justin and Patty just because of the absurdity of the Armin component
Starting point is 00:27:57 and I love the fight why did we need to add a belt to it just do the fight three Camaro wait no three was Diego Volk Diego and Volk
Starting point is 00:28:08 four was Camaro and Islam and five is Anthony Joshua and Jake Paul All right who would you rather see these people fighting Let's go through each one Patty for me it's Armand for the Enron Actually, wipe the inner room. Paddy versus Armin.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Can I do anything? You can do anything you want. Like the timelines don't matter. I'm just like, pick an opponent for this person. It's got to make, roughly sense. Because then it's I'll make rough sense. Okay, I still like the Ilya one, though. I'd wait with Patty and do the Ilya fight.
Starting point is 00:28:37 If it's Q2, I'm fine with that. So I'd do that. Gajie. Armine. Okay. I said Dan Hooker, but that's because I had Patty versus Armine. Yeah, I'm cool with that one too. Volk?
Starting point is 00:28:48 Lorone Lorone Marfrey as well Lerone makes sense Diego Lopez Yayor Rodriguez I had Mosa rematch That could be fun But man
Starting point is 00:29:01 I really just want to see The payoff of the blood feud With Diego and Yaiur at this point Yeah that's a great point by you Islam I think Ian Gary deserves it I'd like to see Ian I had Shafkat rocked mouth
Starting point is 00:29:13 Shavka came on the show He said he'd be ready I'm open to that but I do think there's something to the activity of Ian I think Shavkat will give him the toughest challenge
Starting point is 00:29:24 I take either of those I'll go with Ian for now Usma Sean Brady Morales I got Ian here any of those guys okay
Starting point is 00:29:35 actually I'll switch I'll go to the two that you said give me Shavkat and Islam and I'll take Ian and Kamar I like it
Starting point is 00:29:43 there seems to be some heat there he was on the he was on his pound for pound podcast, and he talked about Ian Gary not being deserving. I think we have the quote panel here. If the company says, we want to book the biggest fight right now in that division, it's hands down. I think we know what the answer is. Former pound for pound versus pound for pound,
Starting point is 00:30:03 obviously speaking of himself. Ian's doing work too, but you can't literally sit here and say he's done more work than what Prochus has done, than what Morales has done. You actually can't sit here and say that he's done more than Prochette. He's on a better run and he's also beaten Prochus. Michael Morales, that's a different conversation but I think Ian Gary is just a tick of a tick up of Carlos Prochis in this argument.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yeah, the strength of schedule has been a little bit different for Ian and Michael Morales, for sure. He also doing a good job of like kind of having heat with everyone. Michael Morales in a video was like, who's the one guy I hate in this division? Ian Gary, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:36 What did we hear? Was it last week or earlier this week where somebody was like, man, I wish Ian Gary would stop talking so much and it's like, no, exact opposite. That's exactly what he should be doing. How about Anthony Joshua? Jake Paul
Starting point is 00:30:50 Oh okay So I said Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury at Wimbled That's a popular one But I said Jake Paul Anthony Joshua Just because now you're out of excuses
Starting point is 00:31:01 There's like the fans The detractors are out of excuses You can actually make excuses For Jake Paul if he loses this fight It's go time Like it's just like All right He's fighting someone bigger
Starting point is 00:31:12 Someone who's in like good shape Who's not 50 years old It's not a former MMA fighter It's a world heavyweight champion, 36 years old, much bigger than him. There are no excuses now. I'm going to pick Joshua for Jake and Jake for Joshua. I like it. You love the matchup.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I love the matchup. So much show, maybe you're going to be in attendance. Maybe. That's how bad you want to see. I might fly to Miami. Ronda. Kayla. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I said Gina Karano in M. I'm down for that too, but I do feel like Ronda's comeback should be in the UFC and matter. like I feel like the place that Ronda will matter like Ronda's I said this earlier this week when we were talking about the Katie Taylor thing Rhonda's the A side of all these fights right Rhonda is the biggest name respectfully to Katie Taylor
Starting point is 00:31:58 even in her sport Ronda Rousey is going to be the A side of that fight Rhonda's comeback needs to be important and significant and the most significant thing she could do is come back to the UFC and like fight Akela Harrison even in Amanda Nunes even a Misha Takeda
Starting point is 00:32:16 I don't know. Like, I just feel like in the UFC is where it would matter most. A Gina Carrano, I don't know if that would happen in the UFC. Maybe it would. I don't know what, I don't think Gina has any kind of like outstanding contract status. I don't know what I think Rhonda probably doesn't. I don't know. I think it has to feel significant and significant would be like fighting the champion of the UFC potentially.
Starting point is 00:32:37 If it's Amanda, if it's Kayla, or if it's an old rival, maybe like a Hollyholm. The options, for her, the options are the most. varied for me. I'd take almost any of them, but... You just want to see her back. I just want to see her back, and I want it to matter, so I'll take Kayla. Katie. She... Cameron? I think Shantel Cameron, Croke Park.
Starting point is 00:32:58 That's probably, yeah. Well, yeah, it's almost like anybody at Crowke Park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, that's how we would do it, you know? We're trying to make amends here, you know, fix. I think the surest sign that my ranking of five for Joshua and Paul was correct was that you picked one half of them to fight the other. Is that true? It's still an absurd No, it's crazy. All right, we are
Starting point is 00:33:21 in the end of the year here. We're at the end game. We're in December now, which has you thinking, you know, New Year's resolutions, how are you going to better yourself in the new year? I got just the idea. Tell me. I got just the idea, brother. Being in shape starts with good nutrition and what better way to get that
Starting point is 00:33:38 than with the UFC's newest meal plan. UFC Ignite. I was scrolling Twitter. last night. I see Mike Bond tweeting this out. UFC is launching a meal subscription plan called UFC Ignite. It launches in January. He was currently at a media tasting some details below. He didn't really like it that much. By the way, 843,000 views on that. UFC Ignite moves numbers. Coming to your doorstep in in 2020. In 2006, I'm in for this. Why eat UFC Ignite meals? It's designed for your
Starting point is 00:34:11 goals. It's simple and ready to eat. It's deliciously nutritious. plastic bin of food thrown in the microwave replenish and recover perfect for any lifestyle I'm in this sounds like a fucking commercial you're trying to cut you're trying to maintain you want to build maybe you want to do a little mixing and match
Starting point is 00:34:28 and we're going to cut and build they're making custom meal plans for you huh you're fucking right be the first to try UFC Ignite you get 50% off and guarantee January delivery that this is literally chicken and sausage of rice looks delicious
Starting point is 00:34:43 This is literally an ad read for this. They're going to have to send us some coin for this. I went on the website. You can choose your amount of meals per week, 4, 8, 12, 16. Let's go 16, man. I mean, a little Baja-style salmon. Maybe a barbecue season beef with roasted taters? This has to be like...
Starting point is 00:35:02 Butter salmon and rice? This has to be a white labeling, right? Like the UFC has to be throwing their branding onto an existing meal plan thing, right? I can't imagine Dana's in the kitchen cooking up Tomatio. pork cassidy is for some Paxon. Fuck your Fridays. He's just cooking it up for you.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Shrimp tica masala. I mean, it sounds class. I'd be down to get a box and just rip through it. See what's good. I'm going to have to opt out. I'm going to have to... $200 a week for 16 meals. No, perfect. For 16 meals delivered to your doorstep?
Starting point is 00:35:34 All in easy containers, meal prepped for you? Easy to fit in the microwave, yeah? Easy to fit in the microwave dinner. Who doesn't like Chipotle eggs shipped across the country never do you guys ever done a meal service
Starting point is 00:35:49 meal like a I did um fresh direct for a second shout out no is that the is that the name of it or is that hello fresh hello fresh hello fresh it's good I did hello fresh it's repetitive but it's good yeah being repetitive is okay when you're trying to get big you're basically easy I'm down for UFC UFC Ignite all right Mike Bonn you said didn't like it
Starting point is 00:36:09 he said he only tried a little bit because he didn't want to spoil his dinner plans that he thinks that's fucking illegal i agree if i can go all in or or not mike uh but i also saw gsp tweeted out uh the gs p path his like training system so i think in the new year if we combined ufc ignite with the gsp path we could be fucking shredded yeah all right maybe i'm alpha you damn right are you in for ufc ignite yeah already already pre-ordered are there UFC gyms left here? Yeah, yeah, they have them. All right, let's jump in on UFC gym as well.
Starting point is 00:36:44 All right, so we're going to the UFC gym. We're doing GSP's plan, and afterwards we're chowing down on that UFC Ignite. I'm fucking down for this. Let's all stay at one place, too. You sound out. Lazy bed in the chat says, now you can eat like a 1212 warehouse fighter, all from the comfort of your own home. It's five and five. Yeah, it's five and five.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I mean, $5 per meal after everything. Do you think... All right, here's the question. Do you think any of the UFC athletes even one will be on this meal plan? No. There's no chance, right? No, probably not.
Starting point is 00:37:19 They're going to the PIA to get their catered lunch. I'm saying here it comes to the free UFC hot dog brander as well. What? No, I'm just kidding. Oh, I was not to say, that's been a meme. Ah, yes. What's wrong, babe? You hardly touch your UFC Ignite,
Starting point is 00:37:33 barbecue season beef with roasted potatoes. shout out has any other sports league done this no yeah I haven't seen it I haven't seen first for everything right eat like an offensive lineman wait like what if this is successful
Starting point is 00:37:50 and then all of a sudden you have like the MLB bites and the NFL dinner NFL one's gonna be gnarly because the calorie count is gonna be insane it just feels it just feels so unnecessary it just feels so unnecessary and for our NASCAR fans I'm still down to try it though
Starting point is 00:38:04 if y'all want to order a box I'm down The Baja Salmon sounds all right. What's the GSP plan like entail? Is it like DVD's instructions? Do we need to have like a whole kit? Like what is it? I mean, he's all in on it because he changed his picture to GSP path. Early access now.
Starting point is 00:38:22 The path by GSP.com. Yeah, I mean, it looks great. Become the best version of yourself. All right, we'll see. We'll see. This isn't a course about fighting. It's about transforming fear into fuel, discipline, into dominance and adversity into achievement.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Every $299 pre-order comes with a free membership to UFC Ignite. I'm kidding. How this course transforms you. Learn the foundations that everything is built on. Train your body to move with power and precision. I'm starting, you know what? Fucking in. I'm starting to see the vision because I'm like, I'm picturing us.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's 12, no. It's 11 p.m. Saturday. UFC main car just started, just kicked off. We've been at it for a few hours, starving. What comes in through the door, that UFC ignite. Couple of people fresh out the microwave. Bring it in on trays, plop it down, we're good.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, all right, I'm starting to see the vision. I'm starting to see the vision. ESPN says GSP blends power, intelligence, and humility like no one else in combat sports. True. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. All right, this weekend, UFC 3, 24. 23, 300, 23, 3, 23, 3, 2, 3, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 00:39:38 It's going down in Las Vegas at Team Mobile Arena, headlined by Marab de Valishvili versus Piotr, Jan. Let's just start there, main event. Fighter of the year on the line for Marad de Valishvili, fighting for the fourth time this year, every single time coming as a title of offense. A little stat for you. The combined record of the four opponents
Starting point is 00:40:02 entering the fights 73 and 12 that he's fighting hands this year and just FYI he's responsible for two of those 12 so 17% of the losses of the opponents he's fighting he's responsible for
Starting point is 00:40:18 I think if he pulls this off it's done closed case fighter of the year if not one of the greatest calendar years in UFC history couldn't agree more like there's I'm like we've been fortunate to
Starting point is 00:40:31 have had this show during most of the like rise and prime of marab devalashvili and like i'm running out of things to say about the guy and i continue to say he's the hardest puzzle to solve in all of combat sports because even when he's not good he's good even when he's not doing his absolute best you are still not able to do better than him which is just crazy like he doesn't have to be efficient he doesn't have to be successful he doesn't have to be good and he's still ahead of you, which is like a luxury that I don't think anybody else has. I'm running out of ways to kind of convince myself that he's going to be dethroned or that somebody can test them because every time he steps in there, we know that the preparation's on
Starting point is 00:41:13 point. We know that the cardio is on point. We know that he's going to show improvements. Every time he steps in there, the striking looks a little bit better, right? Knocking down Corey Sanhagen, like the hands were there. The wrestling is going for the insane, like he's going to be so far ahead of everybody. He's going to be Max Holloway when it comes to total takedowns attempted and landed in terms of Max being so far above everybody else in significant strikes, he's going to be
Starting point is 00:41:39 untouchable at the end of his career when it comes to all those takedowns. I don't know what more to say. Marab is just that guy. You said you're struggling to convince yourself of people being able to beat him. Is there any way you can get around to convincing yourself that Piotr Yon can beat him? And for those that maybe just started watching the sport, don't quite
Starting point is 00:41:59 remember how the last one went. They did fight in March of 2023. Marabin, that fight was a plus 210. He's not like a minus 420. 50-45 on all three judges' score cards. Outstruck him 147 to 75. 49 take-down attempts in that fight. Landed 11 of them, got seven minutes of control time. No one has ever landed more than two takedowns on Piotr Yan. It was domination. It was a fight that by the fourth round, you're just like, okay, rents, repeat. Like, he's just going to keep spamming takedons. He's a strike in the in-between, and he's going to get it done. I can be convinced that Jan is going to do better. I can't be convinced that he's going to win.
Starting point is 00:42:38 That's where I'm at. I believe that Jan was compromised in that fight. He said as much. He looked as much. I believe that that's true. But I still don't see how stylistically he's able to stop what Marab's able to do. His best attribute is being able to land really crisp, clean counters on the outside and hurt his opponents, right? He is one of the sharpest, most dangerous strikers that we have in the division in the UFC overall in MMA.
Starting point is 00:43:04 He's only, by the way, he's only 32 years old. I think people kind of like think of Jan as this like aging veteran guy, but he's very much like fully in his prime. It's just how long he's been around it on top. But having said all that, when Marab is shooting at his legs and does not need to complete the takedowns to take Jan off his game, I don't know how Jan resets and gets back on his game. Marab's style Marab's game plan plays perfectly
Starting point is 00:43:30 against a guy like Peyoteer Jan it's almost like a nightmare matchup for him because the way that Jan frustrates all his opponents
Starting point is 00:43:36 is one when you can't get that takedown it's demoralizing right because his takedown defense is absolutely freaking stellar
Starting point is 00:43:44 and so like a Jose Aldo in his prime when you're shooting on those legs and you really need to commit and get that take down and you can't get it
Starting point is 00:43:51 oh shit right it's like oh God what am I going to do now because when you stand back up now those crisp, nasty hands are coming at you.
Starting point is 00:43:58 But with Marav, if he doesn't get it, he's resetting and he's trying again and again and again and again and again. And you can stuff as many as you want, it doesn't matter because you're not mounting your own offense. And so I wonder stylistically if he has even the openings to try to do it. To me, it's coming down to, is somebody going to flash K.O. Marab? That's basically where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's like, if you don't have the ability to flash K.O. Marab, you're not going to win because I don't see how you stop the style. Yeah, just rewatch. in the last fight, I just don't know how it can change to the drastic point that Piotr Yan is getting his hand raised. Because you mentioned that Piotr Yon was compromised. We have a video here of Murab, which he posted just a couple weeks after the first fight, talking about how his hand was injured going into the fight itself. Like, obviously swollen hand, he's doing sparring and he's not even gloving up his right hand. He's just using the left hand.
Starting point is 00:44:50 He was also compromised going into this fight. I also think that he is just getting better from fight to fight. He says it in every interview. He's just like, he is aware. Anyone can get beat on any given night. He needs to keep improving his game, and I think we're seeing that. He dropped Corey Sandigan. He finished Sean O'Malley in the rematch. It's not like he's just been getting stagnant or getting worse since the last time they fought. I think any improvements that Piotr Yon has made since the last fight, the improvements that Marabde Valsh really are at the same level, if not better. So I just don't know how it flips from 50-45 on all three judges' scorecards that Peter Young getting his hand raised. I think I am with you. I think he needs to hurt Maraub to be
Starting point is 00:45:29 able to get it done. But isn't that, I feel that, but isn't that almost the case for everybody now, right? Like, we can look at all these guys. You can look at Corey, super well-rounded, dangerous everywhere, these knees that could come out of nowhere, great in the scrambles. You look at Sean O'Malley, one-hitter, quitter power. If he's able to keep long, Omar, like, he can wrestle with him. He can do all these things with him. But every single time somebody steps in there with Marab, he is just better, and he's better in the aspects that they're good at, and he's better in the aspects that he's good at. I don't know how you beat him other than a flash KO, and I feel it's true for everybody, not just
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yon. You're never going to convince me that Marab's going to lose until he actually loses. I'm going to have to see it with my own eyes. I've pretty much just sworn off picking against this guy. I feel like every single time he fights, which has been frequently this year, people are always convincing themselves that he's going to lose. He's going to lose. He's going to lose, he's going to lose. We were talking all the way back in January before the Humar-Namagamato fight, and we were mind-blown that he was an underdog in that fight. Every time that this guy steps in the octagon, and I'm seeing it this week, oh, Peter Young was hurt last time, man, like he can hurt him this time, he's going to be able to do this better.
Starting point is 00:46:41 People are always selling them on the fact that he's going to lose this time. I've sworn off thinking that until I actually see it happen. When he eventually loses, I'll be the guy sitting there like, damn, I can't believe he lost. He actually lost. It finally had to come to an end. Yeah, that has happened with a few fighters for me, John Jones most notably. He's in that territory for me now. Islam Makachev is very much in that territory.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I was going to say, Islam Makashv is right there. Like I, you know, I know rode for my boy with JDM, but it's still just like, I'm going to be shocked when that guy inevitably loses if he does. Until I see it, I just can't believe it because they're so good, they're so well-rounded. Yeah, I mean, not for nothing. You mentioned, you know, Sean O'Malley rematch, finishing him, like, Marab was the one who got better in the rematch. In fact, I actually thought Sean looked better in that rematch, but unfortunately Marab also looked better in that rematch. I wonder if Marab actually doesn't do it even easier. Like, I wonder if he couldn't even chase a finish here. Jan is very durable. Jan is very good. I think it would be hard to improve upon that performance just because of the only, here's how I think Marab can improve on that performance. He might convert a few more takedowns. He might have a little more. control time. He might be a little bit more dominant in those positions that he had. But if
Starting point is 00:47:59 Jan was injured and maybe that's the differentiating factor, maybe it can be a closer fight. But again, stylistically, I just don't know what Jan is going to be able to do in those moments that he's going to be able to win a decision against a guy like Marab. It's crazy that we're at a world now where Marab is minus 400 against guys like this. I mean, the win streak is just insane. Everything on the line he will likely, with a win, he will be the fighter of the year, in my opinion. No doubt about it. It will be one of the best calendar years of all time. He'll then be at a 15-fight win streak. Tying Kamarouzman for second longest, you know, Islam and Anderson Silva now at 16. It will be a 14-fight win streak at Bantamweight. He had a, I believe he had a catch-weight
Starting point is 00:48:42 bout in between there, which will be five clear Valgeman Sterling for the longest ever at Bantamweight, and he would tie T.J. Dillishaw with the most title fight wins at Bantamweight with five. also not for nothing one more i mean incredible insane again out of like almost out of words for marab another thing to really lock in on and consider is like marab has spent a lot of time thinking about piotr yon right al jemaine sterling two fights with yon marab number one training partner for al jimine sterling marab his own fight with pjord yon now of another fight with piotr yon like if anybody knows the book on yon it's the team that of aljemain sterling and and marab devalish viz So it's, I don't know, like, what Jan could do to potentially mix it up or surprise him.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I don't see, like, compromised or not, the best version of Yan to me is not better than the best version of Marab. That's where I land. That's actually a fair point. Between Aljo and Marab, they've spent, like, what, a combined 50 plus however long the first Aljo, Piotr Yan went, which was like 20-something, 19, 80s. All those weeks of training for that guy. They spent well over an hour in the cage with him.
Starting point is 00:49:48 This will be the fourth training camp preparing for Piotrion, you know, guys like Ray Longo, John would seen this before. I'm going with Marab. I'm going on Marab. We'll see what happens. If Pejorian wins, I will be surprised. Pleasantly surprised, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'd be like, holy shit. It'd be interesting. It'd be like, crazy, man. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. I can't wait for it. I'm now getting excited for Maraam fights weeks just because he is just a champion's champion. He is active.
Starting point is 00:50:16 He is winning fights. Four fights this year. It's crazy, man. Nobody does that. It's crazy. Four title fights. Four title fights in a year. No, it's nuts.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Like, we go gaga when a guy like Kevin Holland does like six fights in a year. Marab's doing four at the highest. Like, it's nuts. It's nuts. His resume is going to age extremely well. I don't think he gets enough credit now in the current moment where, like, I had him as my number one pound for pound until Islam took it back. Like, I was, after the last fight, I was ready to just say, like, Marab's the guy.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Islam moving up and getting a second title in a new week. weight class to me kind of like swung that pendulum back. But there's a world where two fights from now, three fights from now, if Marab racks up another two or three next year, that I have him back as number one pound for pound. Like, I don't think he gets the respect he deserves as what he's doing is like unprecedented for a champion to be this level of active and also so dominant. Let's go to the co-main event, another top five pound for pound guy and another guy who is on his fourth fight this year in Joshua Van, Alessandre Panthosia trying to defend his belt against the up-and-coming Josh Van.
Starting point is 00:51:23 First fighter from the 2000s, born in the 2000s, to fight for a title, could potentially be the second youngest champion of all time with a victory, second only to John Jones at 24 years old for Josh Van. He was five years old when Pantosia debuted in professional MMA in 2007. And one time we ranked top 365s, top 12-month spans, Josh Van, if he's able to pull this off on Saturday night I'm not saying it's one but it has to be in the discussion of unreal because he fought last year on December 7th he'll be fighting on December 6th
Starting point is 00:52:02 it would be 5 and 0 with a quick ascension to the title Can you give me quickly the names? Of course I can't. We're always ready around here. Shout out the topology. The names. Not the biggest name value. So he lost in December of last year. No, no, no, no. Got knocked out in the sun.
Starting point is 00:52:19 by Charles Johnson, beat Edgar Shirez in September. Okay. Then goes on, this is starting December 7th, this is the 12-month streak. Cody Durden, Ray Tussura, Bruno Silva, Brandon Roy Val, Alessandre Panthosia for the title. Reminderer, Brandon Roy Val is a potential fight of the year. It's going to be in the conversation. And then Pantosia would be knocking off one of the best flyways of all time to get the belt.
Starting point is 00:52:43 On a crazy run. Yeah, that would be a nasty 365. You're absolutely right. Imagine telling him that in July of. last year after he got chaos by Charles Johnson. Man, he has this thing about him, this kind of like carefree nature. Like even
Starting point is 00:52:57 when Ariel interviewed him earlier this week and you could find that interview on this channel, go back and look for it. It was a good one. Like no game plan. I'm kind of just going to flow. He's just a dude who comes in to just throw the fucking hands. Like, he just wants to scrap and
Starting point is 00:53:13 it served him super well because you think about that Royvile fight, bangor, fight of the year contender, amazing credits of Roy Val, too, who looked tremendous in it against All-time scrappers. It was great. But you do, like, when you
Starting point is 00:53:28 compare those two things, I don't think, like, Pantosia can get crazy, right? I think we have to acknowledge, there's a zombie mode Pantosia that gets nuts. But there's also that, like, technical, methodical,
Starting point is 00:53:42 lethal killer side of Pantosia that if he gets this to the ground, I could see it being over relatively quickly. That's where I think he has the major advantage and that's where I think he has more ways to win in this fight in that I think Josh Van has to come out here
Starting point is 00:53:58 and not for nothing you mentioned like no game plan or anything like that like one of the most aesthetically pleasing fighters when he's fighting you're just like this dude's out of age is flowing man and not for nothing most significant strikes landed per minute in UFC history with 8.86 per minute the dude puts up insane volume
Starting point is 00:54:16 that's right now like active like he is the number one guy Correct. Wow. That's sick. Dude puts up absolutely insane volume. Let me get just his last few fights. He actually got outstruck by Roy Val. Landed 204 in the Roy Val fight, landed 125 in the Bruno Silva fight.
Starting point is 00:54:34 By the way, that Roy Val fight was a three-rounder. It was not a five-rounder. 204, 125 in the Bruno Silva fight. 165 in the Cody Durden fight. 118 in the Edgar Chiras fight. 156 in the Kevin Boros fight. want 20 in the Zalgasuma-Gula fight, like all of these being three-rounders.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Like, the dude puts up absolutely insane numbers. I think that's how he needs to go about it to win this fight. Is it going to be enough, though? Like, is that volume, is that number going to be enough where... No, because ultimately, I think that Pantosia is savvy enough, he is crafty enough to know that even if he is getting hit, because, reminder, Pantosia has a chin on him. An insane chin on him.
Starting point is 00:55:16 He is savvy enough to know that he needs to get it to the ground, and I think he'll be able to do that. We have seen Josh Van taken down before. Yeah, and, you know, the lone finish in that streak is the strike on Bruno Silva, right across the ground strikes. So when you combine the fact that, like, Josh Van is a volume guy rather than, like, a superpower guy. Now, you know, when he cracks, he can crack,
Starting point is 00:55:42 but we've also seen guys kind of stand up to it. When you combine that with the insane chin of Pantosia, I wonder if when Pantosia is getting cracked, he just changes that level, and then all of a sudden the game's back in his world because on the ground, it's striking, there's a gap. Josh Van is a significantly better striker, especially when it comes to the technicality and the aesthetics,
Starting point is 00:56:04 there's a gap there, but the gap on the ground is like that. The gap on the ground is miles. And we've seen Pantosia capitalized that on the last two fights. Yeah. He was beating Kikara for. from pillar to post, gets the finish in the third round. Kaya Socorah, same exact thing. It's just like, dude, this guy is just out of his fucking depths.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I don't know if it's going to be that big of a gap against Joshua Van, but it's a gap. He is incredibly well-rounded, and he shines on the ground. He can get finishes there, and he can also hang in the striking. And then, like, you just have to talk about the experience. We just pointed out with Josh Van, three-rounder, three-rounder, three-rounder. Has not done a five-round fight like this in the UFC. Pantosia lives in these five-round fights for the last three, four years. and you know people want to question his cardio
Starting point is 00:56:44 we talk about this zombie pantosia guess what every single time he dogs it out and he wins and he looks good in the fifth round a lot of these times he looks better at the fifth round this Steve Erseg fight he wins the fifth round by wins the fight by winning the fifth round so this whole like how long can you keep saying a guy has bad cardio and then he goes out there and proves it
Starting point is 00:57:02 each time just by the way he looks yeah like he's got his mouth open and his pants look like a diaper and he's like got his hands right here but it's just like he's still scrapping but like the chin dude is getting to like it's getting to elite zones it's getting to the chito veras the max holloways of the world like we're talking about 35 professional fights the dude's been fighting for 20 years and like has he has he been dropped maybe like a maybe like a figure or like a brendananoreno like dropped him at some point yeah i don't know i'm sure but like bro he like eats these shots for breakfast
Starting point is 00:57:31 like there's some shots that he's taken over this championship run where you're like damn he just walked right through that shit yeah that that's that's what i think is going to be the story of the fight is i think josh van is going to look good for as long as it lasts and he's going to be landing, but I don't think he's going to have any shots that I don't think Pantosia can take. I think Pantosia can take everything that Josh Van has. It'd be interesting to see if maybe like body work is a factor here. Like maybe Josh Van's got nasty digs the body. Leans heavy into the body and if he can kind of suck the energy out of Pantosia or the gas tank or hurt him to that realm, that's kind of how you have to go at some of these guys who have the
Starting point is 00:58:07 crazy chins. I wonder if he tries that game plan. But I think Pantosia's built to withstand everything. Like, he's just tough as nails. He's a little bit like a marab for me where, like, I almost have to see him lose at this point. Different in that, I don't think he's as dominant in every phase. Like, there's guys who outstrike Pantosia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:26 But even when he's getting outstruck, it looks like it's not even hurting him a bit. He's getting nuked on, and he's just laughing and walking through it. There's also guys on this run that it's been close. Split decision with Brandon Moreno. Yeah. Steve Irsek fight came down to that fifth round, yeah. You know, Steve went for an. ill-time take-down and it essentially screwed him.
Starting point is 00:58:44 But, like, there have been close fights. Like, I think if someone, and we saw Josh Van go full-on dog mode against Brandon Roy Vow, if someone can just out-dog him in those later rounds, like, he can absolutely be beat. Also, not for nothing, it was Figgie, is the one guy who's ever dropped in. There you go. The most powerful guy who's fought in that division. Yeah. So, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:59:05 I'm going to go Pantosia as well, just based off the experience. Josh Van is still so young in this game. He's been at – Pantosia's been fighting at the top level. complete game, the gap in the ground game efficiency and his ability to finish when it does get to the ground. I'm going to go with Pantosia, but dude, this is such a sick fight. When many men hits on Saturday, I'm going to be on fucking 10. Now it's 50 coming out with him. Like Chris Eubank's We've seen that it failed, that it failed. But like, bro, when many men hits on Saturday night and Josh Van is already waiting in the octagon, like this is fucking, this is, this is it. This is peak.
Starting point is 00:59:36 This is like, we always talk like, this is a fighter. This is a fight fans card. This is like a fight fans fight. I can go ask my boy down the block and be like, yo, Pan tojo Van, he'd be like, who? I'd be like bro. You don't know. You don't know, bro. You gotta get on game, man. I love all four of the guys in the May and Comey. Like, I really think these are like some of the best mixed martial artists we have.
Starting point is 00:59:56 But not only like in terms of status and greatness, but like, I just love watching these four individuals fight. Like, Josh Van is an absolute terminator. As you said, the highest significant strike per minute in UFC history. He's walking forward and he's winging nasty
Starting point is 01:00:12 stuff just throwing it straight at you Rob is an absolute machine never stops. Jan is like one of the cleanest nicest technical strikers we have and then Pantosia zombie mode killer mode it doesn't matter like he's just coming for blood I will say you pointed to the Kai Kaira you pointed
Starting point is 01:00:28 to the Kai Asakura the Erseg fight feels a while ago I don't know if he wants to just stand and trade with Josh Van like I could think that would be ill-advised I don't I don't know if he'd if it'd be ill-advised because I think
Starting point is 01:00:42 he could withstand it, but I think he may have the mindset of, I need to start actually doing what I did in those last two fights every single time out. If I want to talk about myself as an all-time great, if I want to start talking about Marab de Vajvili and some of these other super fights, I think he knows, instead of playing with food, he should come out there, double-leg, Josh Van, and just end it. Because if it hits the ground, Josh Van is in a world of trouble. There's very few guys that can roll with Pantoja on the map. It's going to be fantastic. Those last two are so great. Honestly, I think this whole main card is great.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Let's go to the featured bout of the evening. Brandon Moreno versus Tatsuro Taira, top five flyweight clash. Tatsuro Taya with a win. I know they're pushing Kiyoji Hori, but if he's able to be Baron Mareno here, he might be next to the title. Will he be able to do that, though? Will he be able to do that? Like, going back, I watched the Roy Val fight for Tatsuro Tira.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Both these guys actually lost to Roy Val by split decision recently. Tatsuro Tazur has to get to this to the back. Take down, yeah. Like, I'm happy to go. Exactly. Tatura. That's what he'll be saying if he's able to get the takedown. Once he gets the takedown, he can either control the round, which he did
Starting point is 01:01:47 against Brandon Royval. The two rounds he won, he racked up like four and a half minutes of control time, or he could potentially get a finish. Roy Val is nice on the mat, so I don't know if that's going to happen, but Tatsuro Taira, like we talk about like Pantosha, it would behoove him to get it to the mat. In my opinion, Tatsuro Tira... He has to get this to the mat. Yeah, I'm a little bit surprised to see him as a favorite.
Starting point is 01:02:07 I'm picking, I'll just say it right out in front. I'm picking Moreno to win this fight. but and I'm a little surprised to see Tyra because I think Moreno is obviously the more well-rounded fighter right as you said and on the feet this is not even a fight this is not even close Tyra needs to get it to the mat
Starting point is 01:02:22 that said he's he's very good at doing that he finds a way to get it he takes a lot of damage sometimes and trying to get it there but he's able to get it and then on the mat like Pantosia he is an absolute demon when he's down there like you're you're in real trouble when you're there somebody even as good
Starting point is 01:02:38 as Brandon Moreno is in trouble but I don't know how easy it's going to be for him to locate Brandon Moreno Marino is he moves he sticks he throws the jab he throws the kicks I don't think he's going to be in place long enough for Tyra to really like grab onto anything maybe he makes it dirty maybe he's able to press Moreno up against the cage and kind of like just chain wrestle to get into something but I just I can I can picture Moreno just like dancing around him and peppering him that's that's kind of how I imagine this fight to go
Starting point is 01:03:08 Moreno also just like a complete fighter who only loses to the Pantosius, the Figgies, the Roy Vowls of the world. Like he is only losing the tippy top. And I guess you can make the same argument Tatsuro Tire is 17 and 1. For sure. For sure. The wins for Brandon Moreno are at just such a high level. And there's also been some close ones in those, right? It's not like it's not like Marino is like getting his doors blown off.
Starting point is 01:03:28 So yeah, I still believe in Brandon Marino. I think he's a very difficult style to solve for a lot of guys. As you said, he has losses to top guys. but he's also given them fits in certain instances. I don't know that Tyra is well-rounded enough to compete with a guy like Moreno. Like, Roy Val is a very good fighter, and that's a good win. But I do think Marino's style is going to be difficult for him to solve.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I'll also say, I think Brian Moreno knows the game plan going into it. He's been training his takedown stuff. Oh, yeah, you better. I mean, he's just putting it out there. I've also seen he's been training with Mikey Musa Mechie on the mat. I mean, he's just like, you know, someone comes. come take me down. Someone come take me down, please. How do you feel about the fact that it's three rounds?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Like, who does that favor, in your opinion? I mean, we know Brennan Moreno can go five rounds, so I actually think it might favor, Tatsuro Taira, because he could be two takedowns away from winning the fight. I was thinking the exact same thing. Like, there's a world where Tyra only needs one takedown around, and his control is so good that it would be difficult for Moreno to get back that. Yeah, you could also make the argument, like, if he just, like, if he empties the
Starting point is 01:04:36 clip and he's just like I gotta get this takedown like and he just sells out for it all his energy you know like especially if they're going into round three and it's one one which it could be that's what it was in the roy valve fight with tyra it was one one going into the third round obviously that was a five round fight uh but yeah it's going to be interesting man these fights are great they never the thing with tyra though is it never looks too easy right like no it never does never he never gets that he he he never looks like marab right when you think about like he or or ummar or any of these guys who are like primarily grappling based where there are enough of a threat on the feet
Starting point is 01:05:12 and then once they've kind of lulled you into that security on the feet, they are so good at getting to the legs. They are so good at completing those takedowns. He doesn't have that yet. The takedown game is still a little raw. It's still a little rough. Once he gets the back, he can really work really well from there.
Starting point is 01:05:30 But I've just seen him struggle too many times and I think Moreno is still game enough and good enough to win. So I favor Moreno, but as I thought about it, if he gets two takedowns, one in each of two of the three rounds, I could see a world where he's just on top of him and can't get him off. It's going to be amazing. Let's keep it rolling. Back to Bantam way we go, Henry Sehudo taking on Peyton Talbot in Henry Sehudo's retirement fight. Yeah. Unless. No, he actually came out yesterday and he was like, nah, I think Dana might cut me after this fight no matter what happens. I think I might actually be gone. that's funny by Henry yeah I'm not like a body language like what they're saying guy
Starting point is 01:06:11 like whenever anyone's just like oh did you see him on the scales like he looked like he had the sunglasses on so like he must be fucked or like the experts oh he was like walking out and like he looked like he was nervous I'm like you don't know what they're feeling the only time was Megan Anderson
Starting point is 01:06:26 against Amanda that was the one like the funeral walk like she looked like she had just had diarrhea and she was like and now I have to go fight Amanda Like, that's, I'll give you that one. It's like, yeah, that probably was pretty clear. I'm not a body language guy, but the way So Udo's talking, dude, it doesn't invoke a ton of confidence in. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Like, he's saying, like, this is it for me, I'm done, I'm ready to move on from the sport. Like, I'm ready to move on. I want to spend time with my family. I want to spend time with my daughters. Just want to go give it my all on Saturday. Doesn't really matter what the outcome is. I just want to say that I gave it my all. He's 38, he's going against a 27-year-old.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I mean, he talked today about, like, yeah, maybe I regret. even coming back in the first place because I've just been on a losing streak and maybe he'll lose again on Saturday. He hasn't won a fight since May of 2020. It's been over 2,000 days. He's ofer in this comeback and he's getting a guy who's 11 years younger than him. Yep. Who obviously is motivated. Everything is focused on after. Everything is focused on like what's going to happen after this fight's over. It feels like he's going to be relieved when it's done. No matter what happens, he's going to be like, all right. Like, he was getting all fired up about the eye pokes. And he was just like, we need to fix this shit, man. If I lose an eye, I'm going to be
Starting point is 01:07:37 fucking pissed. Like, I'm almost done with this stuff. Like, let's get the ipos fixed. Because if I lose an eye, I'm going to be angry. So, yeah, I don't know. The way he's talking does not invoke a ton of confidence for me. And I'm obviously unbelievable career that he's had. Like, he is one of the best combat sports athletes ever. Ever. No doubt about it. But at this age, like, I just don't think, like, the fire is. there to, like, he's not going to go on a title run. He's not going to do any of these things. What difference does it make in the end? Like, he just wants to go out there, give it all. And he's getting a young, hungry dude who, I understand, had the loss, was not a great
Starting point is 01:08:15 loss, minus a thousand or whatever. But I think that loss was the best thing for him. He's going to be much bigger than Henry Sehudo. Five-10. I think he's the second tallest bantamweight on the roster, 5-10, going against the shortest fighter, male fighter on the OSE roster. Yeah. There are many people who once fighters start talking the way Henry Suhudo is talking that will say that guy can't win a fight like once you start putting that foot out the door you might as well just close it because you're done right as soon as people start talking about retirement talking about this being the last one that tends to be pretty bad but then you think about like I don't know like a Dustin Porrier who knows it's the end but like still shows up to scrap
Starting point is 01:08:54 and can really still get it done I don't think Henry's out I don't think Henry is when I say out, I mean out of a fight. Like, I think Henry is too prideful, too good at fighting to just be the guy who showed up and, like, isn't giving it as all. Because if he does give it as all, if everything he's saying is true, which is I'm going to give one more time my absolute best and then live with the result, I do think his best might be good enough to beat Peyton Talbot. Like, I like Peyton Talbot. I think if Peyton Talbot lands something bad on Henry Suhudo, there's a high likelihood that he's going to assess his, hey, do I want to just go down here and then like cruise into retirement as opposed to trying to get back up and beat up again? I think that's a calculation that he's going to make. And so if Peyton lands one or two really good ones on him, I would not be surprised to see Henry Suhudo just fold up shop and go home.
Starting point is 01:09:51 But on the other end of it If that first takedown That first double leg looks pretty good And it gives him the confidence And Peyton Talbot gets And Henry completes the takedown on Peyton Talbot I do think there's a world Where maybe he just like rolls through that
Starting point is 01:10:08 And is able to do it There's a path of victory There's a path And only Barcellos took Peyton Talbot down eight times Felipe Alima took him down three times And Henry Suhudo is gold medal Olympic wrestling He's incredible I will say, in his last six fights, Henry Suhudo has only had a total of six takedowns.
Starting point is 01:10:25 How many attempts? Yeah, I don't know. I can't tell you. He's not, he's one of those guys who just became a well-rounded mixed martial artist and the takedowns weren't like an essential part of the game. I just wonder, there's a lot of interesting, there's a lot of intriguing factors to this, me. One is the fact that Peyton seems to have a lot of like reverence and respect for Henry Suhuda.
Starting point is 01:10:46 They trained together before and like he admires Henry Suhudo. and wanted this fight because he thinks so highly of Henry Suhudo and wants to have a name like that on his resume, which I think is a great way to kind of approach this. And I have a lot of respect for Peyton Talbot for doing that and wanting to chase that type of opportunity. I can't imagine that Henry has any ill will toward Peyton. He probably wants to see him do well. And so I wonder if he wants to be the guy, like, what's the motivation? Is the motivation to be the guy to crush Peyton Talbot's dreams?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Like, is the motivation to be like, man, I really like that kid. sorry that I'm going to have to derail your entire career on the way out the door so that it does you no good while I'm leaving and you're going up. There's a lot of psychological things that are going to be impossible to unpack and predict. So I'm almost like just like ignoring them and putting them to the side and focusing solely on the fight itself in an optimal world where Henry Suhudo is motivated and trying to get it done. I think Henry Suhudo is better than Peyton Talbot.
Starting point is 01:11:41 We'll see on Saturday night. Because I think he will take him down. And I don't think Peyton Talbot's going to be equipped for that. Another incredibly intriguing matchup. I am with you. The path to victory is there for him. Yeah. I'm picking him not confidently because of everything you said.
Starting point is 01:11:56 All the talk, I am not confident at all, but I think he's better. The age, the size, the point of their career. Everything. It's all stacked against him. But he has an equalizer, which is when it comes to wrestling, he's a king, and Peyton Talbot is not. He's very low on that scale. It's his weakness, as we've seen. Let's go to the first fight on the main card, Jan Belhovic, taking on Bogdan Guskov.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Yeah Not retiring But Jan Bolivich is 42 years old Oh Doesn't matter though Glover Tashir beat him For the belt at 42 years old Yep
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yomboovic has not one of fights since spring of 2022 Rockich also got injured in that fight Yep So like technically hasn't won a fight Since Israel out of sign Spring of 2021
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yep I'm picking Ghostco He's gonna knock him out Knock him out Polish power goes down Yeah I don't know if he's going to knock him out, but I'm also picking Bogdan Gustav.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You want to know what? Tell me. I watched a documentary on, uh, on, uh, gore MMA in Russia, him and Walter Walker. Yeah, that's a red corner M.A., they put out a great documentary on him. Uh, yeah, it was, this is just a fan pick here. Plus, like, the, the Kirillov performance, like, the knockout was incredible, was impressive, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:10 And I, it's sort of like, you know, the classic, like, just two incredibly different points of their careers. Like, what does a win against Bogdan Guskov do for Yombovich? It's not going to put him in a title. He has a loss to Carlos Olberg. He also lost the fight before that, like, against Alex Pereira. I just don't know how much it helps him. Bogdan Gustav winning puts him in the top five at light heavyweight, a guy who's only 32, 33 years old. Yeah, I don't think he has anything left. I think it's just come down to like we've run out of time, we've run out of miles on the tires. And so I'm fairly confident in Bogdan. It's going to be a fun fight. It's going to be a fun fight. though. It's always good to see legendary Polish fire. It'd be great if they just go in there and
Starting point is 01:13:48 scrap. I think Bogdog's going to bring that to him. He forces that, right? One more trip for the Polish power? Sure, but, like, the power has not been, like, there. Have you ever done, like, a deep dive on, like, people, like, going anti-legendary Polish power? Yeah, there's not, the power is not real. Like, he has, he has, he has as many submission wins as he is. That's right. He has more decision wins than he does knock out. The Polish power was there for, like, Dominic Reyes and Corey Anderson, a lifetime ago, oh, Luke Rockhold. Like, it's, like, kind of, like, served up on a platter. I just, look, Jan Blahovitch has an incredible career.
Starting point is 01:14:26 He benefited from existing in a light heavyweight division once John Jones left it. That was really kind of flimsy. And now, I just don't think there's anything left. Yeah, he doesn't have a knockout in five years. Yeah. Five years and three months, 63 months. Now, he's also been inactive. So, like, it's not like he's been in there, like, all the time.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I'm trying, but yeah, the signs are really bad. Worse than Zahuto's, in my opinion. Like, if I'm looking at one of the two older guys to fade, it's, for me, it's Jan, not Henry. I think it still has potential to be a fantastic fight. Let's get to the prelims. A couple of fantastic fights on these prelims. Grant Dawson taking on Manuel Torres.
Starting point is 01:15:05 A little fun fact, Grant Dawson's wife, L, fights at FAC 32. Oh, that's cool. The night before in Missouri. and then he followed it up this is her first time back in three years by the way followed it up that this might be a retirement fight though because they're going to try
Starting point is 01:15:21 and have a baby and he says they're going to try and have a baby Saturday night so wait they're going to try and have a baby Saturday night that's what he said that's what he said congrats good for you man wait wasn't there am I crazy wasn't the Grand Dawson promo yeah when he cut the promo
Starting point is 01:15:37 after the fight and he was just like shout out to my wife she's got a dump truck he can throw a nickel off of him I wasn't sure but But when you said his wife, I thought we were going that direction. That's actually his ex-wife. This is a new wife. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I'm just kidding. Oh, shit. Oh, man. Well, shout it to her. I mean, that's pretty cool. Ruthless L. Yeah, one more time and then done. Yeah, I mean, I hope they both win.
Starting point is 01:15:59 That's great. I don't know if she's actually done or not. That's just what Grant said. Because he's going to get her pregnant? Yeah, correct. So she didn't say anything about like planning to retire. Oh, okay. Oh, my God. Grant.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Grant's on the sex, JD. Grant's focused on something. in here. It's good. Well, he needs to be focused on Manuel Torres come Saturday night because this is a fucking scrap. Manuel Torres is a terror in the Octagon. Not here for a good time. Flip it. Not here for a long time. Here for a good time.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Twelve straight fights ending in the first round win or lose. Like absolute scrapper when he gets in there. That's all there is to say. He is as active as they come in the first round and he's looking to take your head off. Not for nothing. Grant Dawson, like, has been in some scraps, man. He's been in some fights that
Starting point is 01:16:41 have been in the finishes and I think you don't have a choice when you're fighting Manuel Torres to be in a scrap or not, and I think that's what's going to happen. Also, not for nothing. Grand Dawson is sneaky 11 and 1 in the UFC. What? Yeah, very sneaky. Yo, that's crazy. Yeah, 111. I would not have pegged that. 11 and 1. Holy shit. Yeah, he's got a lot of green on that record. He's nice with it, bro. But as you said, some of those were kind of like back and forth. Well, and you know who called that one loss, Frankie? You?
Starting point is 01:17:15 Stereo Frankie. It was the King Green fight. Oh, that was the huge underdog one. Wow, shout out, Frankie. Plus 345. What a pull. Bobby Green. This guy never loses, and Frankie picked them
Starting point is 01:17:27 picked against them the one time. Yet. Was that just in my ear, Frank? Was that it? Frank just went out of ear and said, unless, of course, the fix was in. Frankie, whoa, whoa, whoa. You gave over the bag with the...
Starting point is 01:17:40 Who you've been hanging out with, Frankie? Brown paper bag. Who's to check? he didn't even do the drop who's to check uh yeah I can't wait for this fight um I think Manuel Torres is too big of a dog here
Starting point is 01:17:52 just because of how lively is for a finish like he can end the fight at any moment and we've seen Grand Dawson finish before but like if it gets extended you have to side once it goes like past a round and a half it's like oh shit he's in trouble especially because Grand Dawson can take this to the ground and kind of like
Starting point is 01:18:07 quell the fire that is Manuel Torres if he's successful I'm surprised by this line too that like he's a bigger dog then I thought for a guy who has proven to be able to, like, in the first round, just annihilate people. Annihilate. I mean, let's just, like, let's go through his last few fights.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Drew Dover, knocked him out in a minute 45. Ignacio Bahamona's got knocked out in four minutes. Chris Duncan. But he also was trying to kill Ignacio in that. Oh, for sure. Chris Duncan choked him out in a minute 45. Nicholas Moda, knocked him out in a minute 50. Frank Camacho, knocked him out in 327.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Colton, England on the contender series, knocked him out in two minutes flat. Yeah, and then even prior to that in his, regional stuff. Gilly in 25 seconds. We're naked in a minute three. Got knee barred in a minute 23. He's like, bro, either I'm finishing you or you're finishing me and we're going to do it fast. It's McKinney. It's, it's McKinney shit. It's like, we're going to go to war for one round and I'm going to win or you're going to win. And if you engage with him on that, it's dicey. It's real dicey. Look, man, I got five minutes for it. Whoever wins.
Starting point is 01:19:06 The car's running. I got to go. See what happens, man. I don't get paid by the hour here. Let's fucking get this show on the road. Yeah, I'm surprised by that line. You know what? I'm taking Manuel Torres as a dog. I think it's a smart play. Manuel Torres as a dog, or Grant Dawson wins, and gets pregnant that night. He gets pregnant? Ruth Lucille Dawson, that's pregnant. Shout to Grand Dawson.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Shout to his wife. Hopefully, best of luck at FAC 32 in Missouri. Terrence McKinney, you just mentioned it. Yeah. That's the fight before this. Your favorite fighters, favorite fighter? Terrence McKinney have to do this every time he fights
Starting point is 01:19:43 shut it down Terrence McKinney 24 professional mixed martial arts bouts has never been to a decision he does not know what it feels like to stand there with the ref holding your arm and you're just like
Starting point is 01:19:59 oh it's me, it's 29 28 McKinney we have never heard those words in our life never seen a decision has seen one singular third round in his career and 20 20 of his 24 fights have ended in the very first round. What a man.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I mean, like, spoiler alert, I will be betting the under one and a half in this fight. You have to parlay it now. I mean, everything has just been taken out in terms of value. He is second to Tom Aspinall in shortest average fight time. Just go back through his most recent ones.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Slava Claus, 55 seconds. Tamir Hadzvik, two minutes. Rebovik's 37 seconds. Meroody 20 seconds, breed in 125. Like this guy is just an absolute menace to society and he's getting a scrapper
Starting point is 01:20:47 on the other end and Chris Duncan. Who is going to win? I have no idea. I cannot tell you. Whoever gets the finish first because Chris Duncan is going to engage in the scrap
Starting point is 01:20:55 and someone's going to get finished. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's right. That's right. That's my main event for the card. Are you making a pick or are you just like,
Starting point is 01:21:06 I don't care as long as it goes under? I don't care as long as it goes under. Yeah. I mean, I support, Terrence. I think Duncan's going to win, but I am on the side of... What even are the odds? How do you even set odds on a Terrence McKinney fight?
Starting point is 01:21:17 Minus 141 plus 121. They just look at the unders. Good luck to. They might even... They should just not even have money lines for Terrence McKinney fights. It's just how many seconds will it take, and then you can just go from there. And then like the one fight he said he was going to be reserved, the Bond Feme fight, it lasted like seven minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:35 that was where he was like grappling right he was like a wrestling heavy kind of approach yeah and then he ended up striking he got need um i think duncan is tough enough to survive what mckinney's going to bring in that first round look don't get me wrong it's going to be absolute hell but i think i think Duncan is tough enough to survive it and also enough of a dog himself that he's going to find a way so i lean toward Duncan but this is just a who who kills who first like there is there really is not a lot to like dissect here this is This is a cheek clencher. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:07 But cheek slushed the whole time. If you're on either side of it, you're just like, okay, flip a coin, I hope so. Flip a coin and see what happens. Macy Barbara, Karini, Sylvie, you pump for this one? Macy Barber on a nice winning streak. Dealt with some health issues, but... Just from the perspective that I'm happy to see Macy Barber back, like she felt like she had so much momentum before she went away due to those health issues.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And so I'm just happy to see her back, and that's kind of like where my head is at for this. Like, I want to see Macy Barber enter that title talk to her. that she probably belongs in. So that's my angle on this fight. Yeah, I mean, not for nothing hasn't fought in 20 months now at this point. Yeah, it's been a minute. Yeah, she was calling for titles beforehand. And she was there.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Like, I think she probably would have gotten one. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Hopefully, hopefully she looks as good as she did before the health scare in her return. Farah Ziam taking on Nazim Sadikov. This is also another sneaky banger. Two guys that just know how to win. I like Smile Killer. I'm a fan.
Starting point is 01:23:05 He's like one of those guys that isn't ever going to be, like, higher than the fifth fight on the card. But every time you see his name, you're like, damn, yeah, I really like to watch that guy fight. Sadikov only been to one decision in his five-fight U.S.C. career, and that was against Slava Claus, slowed down, I believe. Or did Slava Claus slow down? Someone slowed down and got 10-8ed into a draw. And then he also got to finish on the contender series. I'm going to say he gets the finish here against Faraz-Ziam. Is he a dog? yeah he is
Starting point is 01:23:36 Sadako's a dog damn I'm gonna bend him as well New York's own come on man support I lean Sadikov too
Starting point is 01:23:41 so I'm surprised to see him as a dog Marvin Vittori against Bruno Fahara in a mindbender that Marvin Votori
Starting point is 01:23:50 is actually the younger fighter in this fight 32 years of age for Marvin Votori 33 for Bruno Fahara yeah it does feel
Starting point is 01:23:57 like we've seen like Marvin for a lifetime in the UFC at this point needs one desperately here needs one desperately. We are talking about a guy who used to fight for UFC titles who has now
Starting point is 01:24:08 lost four of his last five and he's buried on the prelims. One fight ago, it was Brendan Allen of the fight before that. I think it was the main event against Roman Deletesia. It was. He has main evented a UFC card in 2025. Yeah, it will be a... Now granted, it was an apex card. Still,
Starting point is 01:24:24 it will be a very bad fall from Grace if this is where he's at in his career. So, like, this is going to be do or die for Marvin Vittori. He needs this win desperately to prove that he still at least viable in this division and in the UFC in general and big opportunity for Bruno
Starting point is 01:24:40 it actually he may have ended his last two fights before that and then was on the main card of a paper view now he's just buried he needs it bad man he needs it bad but I'm gonna go with Bruno Fahara oh yeah not a good sign for Marvin yeah I just I just don't think Marvin's gonna be able
Starting point is 01:24:56 to deal with the striking and the aggressiveness of Bruno Fahara yeah let's see let's see what that means for Marvin Vittori If he loses, it's going to be tough to see where he goes from him. He's only 32. There's just so many miles on him. Tarantial is back. Let's go, baby.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Jalen Turner taking on Edson Barbosa. I'm not going to lie. I told you this earlier this week. Look, man, Edson Barbosa, Hione Barcelos, two older Brazilian dudes, great tan skin, shaved heads, similar body types. They're both jacked. In my head, I was like, everyone was like, Jay. Peter and Turner's going to kill this guy, and I was like, ah, hit some Barbossa's on. He's on a great run right now.
Starting point is 01:25:37 He's won, like, four in a row. And then pulled up the tapology. I was like, oh, hit some Barbosa is on a shit run right now. He's been getting killed lately. Conflated the two resumes. Was like, oh, Hione Barcello's resume. Both their last name started with B. It's on me.
Starting point is 01:25:54 It's on me. Yeah, went back and watched a couple of the Barboso fights. Got hurt bad in that Sadiq U.S. I know. I know. He came back. He came back and he was able to win it, but the Lorone fight, 5045 on a couple of those scorecards, just did not look good. The Draccarclos fight, closer fight, but ultimately in the last two rounds, he did not look good in those either.
Starting point is 01:26:16 If Jalen Turner comes back at a level that he was fighting at, I think his 14 and 9 record is a little bit deceiving. If he comes back and fights at a level that he was fighting at before, you know, the retirement talks and everything, the finishing capability that this dude has, I think he gets his handraised. Yeah, that's where I'm at. Like, I don't trust Edson Barbosa's chin. I haven't for like five, six years now. Like, it feels like a long time since I kind of put the Edson Barbosa chin away in the closet, packed that one, said, we're not going to revisit this. And Turner, you know, as you said, in some of these losses, like, Moikano, for example, he had Moikano, like, in outer space with the, you know, with how rocked he had Moikano. And then Moikano came back to win that one after he stepped away.
Starting point is 01:27:00 So, yeah, I just don't think the chin's going to hold up. Jalen Turner is going to be, now, the one thing that I'll say is Barboza's kicks are going to be important, right? If he's able to take out Turner's legs, that's very, very beneficial to him, as is the idea that as the longer man being Turner, he can still reach him with kicks without having to get into punching range. That's going to be a benefit for Barboza, but man, I just can't avoid the image of Turner at some point catching him on the end of a really long stream. and Barbose's chin just not holding up. Good to see Turner back, man. I thought he was really good for the sport. He's always an exciting fight.
Starting point is 01:27:36 He was game as hell. The Dan Hooker fight was a legendary performance. I know he came up on the short end of that one, but it was one of the fights a year. The gamron performance was great. I think he's good for the sport. It's good that he's, you know, he feels like he's found solid footing.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Yeah, it's a super young-ass dude. Cool-ass dude, too, with the skateboarding, everything. Found solid footing. Says he found God, says he found Jesus. So I'm happy to see him back, man. I'm excited to see his return. A bang or fire, man. There's some sneaky scraps on this card.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Maybe not sneaky scrap, but like, we could see a fast finish. Mansour Abdul Malik taking on Antonio Tricoli. Tricoli 0-2 in the UFC. He has two fights in the last four years. He's 35 years old. I don't know how much you look at his Instagram. Scroll the old Tricoli IG page. Never.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Not once. Yeah, he's not that focus on fighting. It seems like he's a bit more of a poker player now. It's like every post is just about him playing. Oh, so you're seeing him being a nearly 10 to 1 dog is probably accurate? Like probably happened. Look, man, he's been finished in both of his, in both of his UFC fights. Mansoor Abdel Malik is wildly talented.
Starting point is 01:28:39 He can knock out anyone. Sometimes he plays with his food. I watched it happen in Atlanta and ended up not working out for him. You know, with the no contest and everything, we thought he had the finish. Under two and a half cash, though. But I think he just needs to not play with his food here. He's the superior athlete, the superior striker, the superior fighter. and he should get this done quickly.
Starting point is 01:29:01 I'm with it. Take a look at your colleagues in IG. I'm not. You like poker? You like poker? Yeah, I'm not going to look at IG. Last one we're going to talk about Muhammad Nymov, taking on our guy, boy in the back, honorary boy in the back, a man who's been on the show. Myron Santos, there's no breakdown to be given. Myron gets the same.
Starting point is 01:29:18 We're riding with Myron. We got a pick of the guy, come on. Easy, easy. Myran. We have a pick of Myron? I thought we had a picture. From when he was on BITB? I thought we had a picture.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Okay, we don't have a picture of mine. Yeah. Overall, dude, I think this is a fantastic card. A great way to end in the paper view era. As you said, it's one of those that you're going to be like to the doorman, to the boy, like, yo, you know about this one? And they're like, Ebo Oslooslini, Iwo Baranowski. You hype for that or what, bro?
Starting point is 01:29:46 You're like, ha? Is that a politician? But it is a, it is a fight fans card. Like, there's a lot of good scraps. There's a lot of good names on here. And as I said, like, top, the top, the top. let's call it the top four fights
Starting point is 01:30:02 every single one of those guys in those fights is cream of the crop like for sure Moreno Tyra Pantoja van Davalishvili Jan that's like
Starting point is 01:30:13 elite elite elite and then Sehudo is like former champion I was just about to say not for nothing every fight on the main card has a current or former champion yeah that's really good stuff here
Starting point is 01:30:22 that's I dude I can't wait I can't wait for this one it's going to be fantastic make sure to tune in 945 Eastern standard right here on the channel for the watch party. Dawson and Torres and McKinney and Duncan is... Dude, I'll say it, I'll stamp it right here.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Last seven fights are bangers. Yeah. Last seven fights are absolute bangers. And return of Macy Barber. Like, there's stuff on here. Oh, yeah. Marvin Vittori. Our guy...
Starting point is 01:30:46 Fuck, yeah, Bator. Turner and Barbos is like buried on prelims. Like, this is going to be... Yo, that Ebo-Ewo fight also has potential to be a bangor. I think someone can get finished there as well. Shout out. Ebo... We could...
Starting point is 01:30:57 We could see, like, one, I'm setting the over under right now. One, two, three, and then you add in the four or five. How many fights are on this card? We got, we got 14 fights on this card. I'm going to set the over under on finishes at eight and a half. I'll take the over. I think it's going to be a night of finishes. It's a great, it's a great card to end the pay-per-view area.
Starting point is 01:31:21 You're a little bit sad about the paper-view air ending. Oh, yeah, for sure, big time. Happy about saving 799-99 every single month now? I am very... Money right back in your pocket. More than anything, the 9 p.m. start time of the main card, that's the only thing I care about at this point. Excited to get Paramount Plus and be able to watch...
Starting point is 01:31:39 I have it. I'm ready. I'm locked in. Look, I'm a challenge guy. I'm a challenge guy. Paramount Plus has been very close to me already. What'd you say? Said, yeah, I'm right behind you, boss. What'd you say? Jordan. Jordan was a Paramount guy.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Jordan is still a Paramount guy. Until the day I die. Till the day you die. All right, let's get into bets. Wait, wait, would you have paid $89.99 for pay-per-view if they had started them at 9 instead of 10? Yes. No? What?
Starting point is 01:32:09 I would have paid $849, but I would have paid $9999 if you started them at 8. Oh, very nice. Yeah. Quick Paramount Plus update. Very important, very important. Tell me, tell me. The latest Mission Impossible now streaming. Woo!
Starting point is 01:32:25 What did I say? He's a Paramount guy. He knows. He knows. You ever think about with movies? Like, it's just about wasting time to get to when it comes to streaming now? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:32:34 People were paying $23 per person to go watch that in theaters like six months ago. I'm a theater guy. Oh, I also am too. I mean, AMC Stubbs for life. So I didn't pay the $23. I just paid the $25 a month
Starting point is 01:32:46 and then I would go watch four movies a month. So you're getting your money's worth. But I'm just saying. If you're not a theater guy, what's the incentive to be kind of theater? No, no. If you don't like the movie theater experience, or you don't want to pay that, sit at home
Starting point is 01:32:57 and just wait, but I like to get out. I like to get out. I just went and saw Zootopia 2 with the kids. Fantastic. I actually watched Zootopia 1 this week. Going to go watch Zootopia 2. Not a Paramount movie. Let's please move out.
Starting point is 01:33:08 All right, Parlay pals. Already got Pizzi's pick. He's going with Pantosia in the co-main event. Do you got to hit the recap. Do you got to hit the recap because... Let's hit that recap. The boys are back, baby. That's all green.
Starting point is 01:33:21 That's all green. The losing streak is over. we're now in striking distance of going green. We're not green again, but we're in striking distance of going green. We just need an even money bet right here, and we're good. Look at that, baby. 44 up, 14 down. It's not a bad hit rate.
Starting point is 01:33:42 We can go to pseudo-500 to where, you know, for every one we win, we lose two. Look, four-leg parlay, four-leg parlay. So Pizzi's pick is in. Alessandre, Pantosia. That's a good one. I'll go first, then Frank, you can go, and then Rick. We'll go a little triangle here. And I will go, main event, I made myself the first pick.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Miranda Oshvili. Georgian supporting fellow Georgian. We've got the two reigning champions already. Lock them in. Frankie, what do you say? You know, you were talking about having some finishes on the card, but I really want Barbara and Silva to take this over two and a half, and then we could see a finish. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:20 So you're calling for a finish in the last two and a half minutes of that fight. please that's a great pick by you don't want to see macy barber get a finish in her return don't support uh the advancement of women's mixed martial arts i mean what's to stick to the script all right r r rick you finish that was great that was the most that was the most kind of back and forth frank he gives on a lot of these specs other than like you know why or what like you come on man there's only one yeah there can only be one uh that was great all right i'm going uh our boy myron santos like Yay, shout out.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Got to do it. Shout out to the boy. Shout out to him, Vaseline, man. We had that picked. We had that picture of Martin Santos. Somewhere in that, somewhere in that beer. There is. Shout to Myron Santos.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Absolute legend, man. There is. Hicking it off the card. Oh, shout out to that graphics team for getting that ready to go. Plus 236. That gets us firmly in the green, boys. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 01:35:16 I like it. A little wiggle room in the green. Damn, Pantosius, the tightest odds on this? That's a little. surprising but all right i like it we shall see we shall see come saturday uh all right my picks for the weekend yeah let's run through a few bets i've been trying to keep it tighter but last pay review of the of the year i actually had a sweep on katar but i only had three bets all right still a sweep though look man that's that's all we're trying to do uh nizim sadikov he finds ways to
Starting point is 01:35:45 win's fight i like his finishing capability i think ferez is much more of a decision fighter i like the upside of Nassim, who is on a great streak right now and at underdog odds, you got to support the New York guy, Nassim Sadikov. Next up, Bruno Fahara, Money Line. Where Marvin Vittori is at in his career, and what I have seen from him in his recent fights, Bruno Fahara is going to be able to walk forward.
Starting point is 01:36:09 He has big time finishing capabilities. Will he be able to do that to Marvin Vittori? Myrador's chin is ironclad, but I think he can hurt him. Whereas Marvin Vittori coming back, I do not think he's going to hurt Bruno. Farahara. I think Bruno Fahara is going to move forward and throw big bombs on Marivatori. Next up, Malik Abdul, or Abdul Malik, and it is tough. And the under one and a half, same game parlay, get the minus 1,000,000, a minus 150. I don't think Tricoli is in the game as seriously as Abdul Malik. And I think he gets knocked out in the first round. Does this pay better than just picking him by finish?
Starting point is 01:36:48 Is that the... Yeah, yeah, him by finish is like minus 300. Okay. By adding the under one and a half, I'm getting that, and I'm not going to lie. This is early on on the card, so all the props weren't available. Like, I couldn't get like a round 1, K.O. or anything at the time. So this is what I went. I like it.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Abdul Malik and the under one and a half. Problem solving. Same game, Parlay. We go to the Parlay. Alashandre Panthogu and Maraub de Blas, really. And still Parlay here in the co-main and main event. next up McKinney Duncan under one and a half
Starting point is 01:37:18 you know how to do it with Marab I'm not going to believe Maraub's going to lose until I see it he's almost like an anchor for these parlors for these two I'm not going to I'm not going to do it across seven eight parleyes just just these two next up
Starting point is 01:37:31 Jalen Turner I like him in the return Peyton Talbot I can't stay away from the Peyton Talbot I might get proven wrong on Saturday night we'll see you're liking what you're hearing out of size the points of their career careers. I understand there's a path to victory for Henry. Looking back on it, if I lose this, I'll be like, I'm a fucking idiot. The path is right there. But if he wins, I'm going to be like, I'm a genius. It was right there the entire time. And I'll be right there with you. Thanks, Frankie. And then lastly, a violence parlay. We got the Igbo-Iwo under two and a half, Abdul Malik Tricoli under two and a half, McKinney Duncan, under one and a half, and Dawson Torres under two and a half.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Not enough people are talking about that Ebo, Ewo. Including us, we barely even touched on it. We barely even scratched the surface of Ebo, Ewo. Violence Barlet, those are my four favorite fights on the prelims. It's going to be bangers. I can't wait for it. Yeah, I'm excited for this one. It feels like a, this is like a, I almost don't want to get one that's like too high stakes, too high energy to end the year.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I like to, like, I feel like this is a perfect way to cruise into the end of the year. Like, it's like, this is a great card, but it's not like, oh, my God, the craziest thing ever in the world. It's just like, let's just get there. It's nice and cozy at Team Mobile. You get ready for the holiday season. Perfect. It's perfect. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I can't wait for it. It's going to be great. UFC 323. UFC 323 this weekend, Team Mobile Arena, Las Vegas. Join us right here on this very channel, 945 Eastern Standard Time on Saturday night. We'll be watching it with you. Take you right in to the post-fight show where we'll have all the reaction and breakdown. Let's go to pound for pound rankings this week in honor of the challenger in the co-main event,
Starting point is 01:39:08 Joshua Van, trying to become the second youngest champion in UFC history. That is crazy. We're not doing anything to do with age. We're doing something to do with his last name. Pound for pound vans. Pound for pound vans, baby. Could be the vehicles. Could be someone with the name.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Could be the shoe. Could be... Anything. Anything. Anything, really. Vans. Anything. Frank, what's the order? The order is Frank.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Enric. Thank you. I like it. starting me off here at number five the mystery machine hey it's a great one yeah it's a great van where are you scooby-doo i'm in the mystery machine he sure is number four okay before we reveal this one i was not a fan of using like van as if it's paul van dyke or something where it really just means of why because i don't know i just but i broke my own fucking rule because number four is van helsing i will say
Starting point is 01:40:07 like he's just known as Van Helsing. He has a first name, but he's known as Van Helsing. And I'm talking about Van Helsing from the original Dracula. This movie with Hugh Jackman was great, but it was like someone who was vaguely familiar with who the character was from Dracula decided to make this guy into a superhero. I mean, I enjoyed the movie when it came out,
Starting point is 01:40:26 but I think just the character as a whole, definitely number four on my palm. Do not disparage Uncle Hugh. This was a fantastic film. Oh, he's your uncle. I didn't know. Yes. Shout out Van Helsing.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Number three, the party wagon I don't know if you guys are familiar with this Teenage Mitten Ninja Turtles used to strap somebody into the fucking door and open it up. I had this toy if we could go to the next image I loved it. Is this yours from childhood?
Starting point is 01:40:50 That's not... It's a picture of yours from your house? Yeah. Oh my dear God. All right. So number two are the checkerboard vans. I thought it would want I know you used to wear these back the day. I'm famous by Spacoli on Fast Times of Richmond how high here he is, opening a new pair.
Starting point is 01:41:08 And then my number one pound for pound van of all time. How many pairs of checkerboard vans you go through back in the day? I still wear it. Yeah, I knew it. Is the A-team van? Oh. You got to have the group.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Fucking sick, man. Get in the back of the van. God. And go stop some crime or create crime depending on. Look at this. Look at this. Wow, you know what? Who's driving? Who even cares? No, Murdoch always. Oh, wait, but isn't Murdoch right there? Yeah, you're right. Who is driving? Are they just having a meeting in the back?
Starting point is 01:41:38 I think they're smoking a spliff. No, no, that's a cigar. Come on, don't be disrespectful. But maybe it's laced with something. It's a solid list, Frankie. Three vans in his van list. Three vans in the top of vans. That's a high output of vans.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Very good list. I'll also learn something. I didn't know that the Turtles van was called the party wagon. Now did I. Now you know. I knew the mystery machine, obvious. And if you don't know, now you know. Thanks, Dana.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Wow, you look back to Connor. He looks like superimposed. It looks like school photography on the backdrop. Like, it looks like it's like it's like... You're just calling him fake? I'm not going to lie, man. From this angle, I look terrible. I face is so buffing.
Starting point is 01:42:15 No, you look great. But the background looks like it's super important. Because of the shadow right by his left. Yeah, the shadow of the halo effect around his head. Also, we're at the point in the show where I've started just lowering down in my seat. A little slump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up with good posture.
Starting point is 01:42:29 All right. Also, I'm working with a little bacon collar here. You guys get bacon collar? every? Yeah, of course. I fucking. All right. It was me, right, Frank?
Starting point is 01:42:40 Yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. Number five for me, this is a man I respect greatly. This is a van I respect greatly. Okay. This is the one,
Starting point is 01:42:49 the only podcast extraordinaire, Van Lathen. Van Lathen, media personality, but I know most from being one of the Midnight Boys on the Ringer's podcast network.
Starting point is 01:43:03 I love that podcast. So much so that I provided Jordan with evidence of that. Of my 100,1,047 minutes of podcasting, Jesus Christ. The ringer is four, the ringer's podcast network has four of the five slots. And the ringerverse, that number four slot, that's, that is where I get the midnight boys that Van Lathen. It's like 70 days, Connor.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Yeah, 1684 hours, 16884 hours, 16884 hours. divide that by 24, 70.1 days of the 365 you spent listening to podcasts. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Impossible. In ear? Yeah. I'm audio only. I don't watch the videos at all. That's insane. No video podcast. But of those 70 days that I was listening, many, many, many of those days were accompanied by Van Lathen.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Shout out to him for producing great content. Shout out to the ringer. You know, they could maybe show me some love back. I've obviously been a big fan. and yeah the Midnight Boys is great Okay, number four This is a film We're going to the film world I love it And it is not Van Helsing
Starting point is 01:44:15 Van Helsing No Good timing on that though It's Van Wilder Shout out National Lampoons Van Wilder Ryan Reynolds
Starting point is 01:44:25 Pre What's the Amityville horror glow up When he got extremely jacked He was still a little like, that's not how he looks in the movie. He's kind of like a, still a scrawny, kind of geeky dude prior to becoming absolutely yeah, like that's Ryan Reynolds pre-steroids.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Also, Cal Penn. Also, most importantly in this picture, tech from the real world was in this movie. Incredible film about a guy who refuses to graduate college just never actually applies himself to get enough credits because he is like the campus king and doesn't want to graduate. he is just staying in college, he's running shit. There's also another photo I provided to Jordan from the film. And that's of his dog's testicles. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:45:10 As you can see, they're quite engorged and it becomes a running joke in the film. It's very crude humor. It's very national lampoon, but it's an absolutely incredible film. Ryan Reynolds? Yeah. There's an argument.
Starting point is 01:45:25 There's an argument. Love of Van Wilder. Shout out to Ryan Reynolds. Shout to Tara Reid. That's a little bit of a... Blastor in the past. All right, number three, this man's a leader of men.
Starting point is 01:45:36 This man's a van as well. And he is the one, the only. Former Knicks coach, Jeff Van Gundy. Oh, Bunga! Gosh, Brian. That was fucking horrendous. God. That was bad.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Pictured here, conversing referees before games, important part of this picture an important part of every Jeff Van Gundy picture Diet Coke in hand, known for it. Got to have it. Got to have the Diet Coke in hand. Can we go to the other Jeff Van Gundy? Not that one, but we can go here.
Starting point is 01:46:11 He doesn't have a Diet Coke in his hand here. No, you know what he has in his hands here? He has Alonzo Morning's leg in his hands here. Because he is hanging in the middle of a brawl between the Knicks and the Heat, a very contentious scrap. He is hanging off Alonzo Morning's legs like, I don't even know what.
Starting point is 01:46:26 It looks quite pathetic. It was one of the best moments of 90s basketball. Love Jeff Van Gundy. His aserbic nature and take for everything makes me so happy. He just has no time for nonsense, no time for bullshit. I like to think of myself of a little bit of a Jeff Van Gundy. I appreciate Coach Van Gundy. Shout out to Jeff Van Gundy.
Starting point is 01:46:46 How did you choose between Stan and Jeff, though? I'm a Jeff guy all the way. Stan's great. Stan is great, but he's not as, he gives almost a few more fucks than Jeff. Jeff gives the least fucks and so I'm riding with Jeff but they're both fantastic
Starting point is 01:47:02 Stan I mean the the moment where Dwight Howard comes over to Stan Van Gundy to do the press after Stan had just finished talking shit about him and they're just like chopping it up is an all-time moment
Starting point is 01:47:12 but there have been many for the Van Gundy brothers love both of them Jeff's my guy though number two this is a van but it's a little bit of a different van it's a it's a Vandrle
Starting point is 01:47:26 it's a Van der Leigh It's a van der Le Silva Wow Shout out to the legend You really had to work to get there No I mean it's right there Van der Le Silva It starts with a W
Starting point is 01:47:36 But it's a van no It's a pose in pronunciation Wanderly No that's not how you say it Wondie Vandy Vandy Vanderle
Starting point is 01:47:47 Vanderlea Vanderlea My favorite MMA van Of which there were many But I didn't end up Mostly going with any other than Vanderle legend of the game he's appeared on many of our other lists as well like scariest fighters and things
Starting point is 01:48:00 like that uh shout of vanderlay love vanderlay a great van number one this was the easiest for me as soon as we decided to do vans i knew exactly who my my number one van would be uh and it could be none other than john claude van damn wow all people all people i i had the mystery machine and then i made a last minute switch interesting to jeff van gundy um but i mean Look at the photography, look at the moves, look at the flexibility. I was going to say the flexibility. Well, you think that's flexibility. Jordan, can we keep rolling through these?
Starting point is 01:48:34 Now that's... Crazy. Now that's flexibility. What's the shape that guy's in. Look at the shape this guy's in. The action hero of my childhood alongside, obviously, Sylvester Salon and Arnold Schwarzenegger, but just iconic photos, iconic lifestyle, an iconic man, the muscles from Brussels, Jean-Claude Van Dam. What's your favorite movie of you?
Starting point is 01:48:54 Legendary. I it's hard for it like obviously the the easiest ones are going to be the fighting ones but I had a thing for the shitty like action ones where he becomes like a cop in every single one time cop as a great example universal soldier is my favorite universal soldier is a great one and sudden death my favorite I regret to say but I'm also happy to say at the same time is double team with Dennis Rodman that's a good one though I like it's a piece of shit but it's actually fantastic
Starting point is 01:49:25 Come on. John Claude Van Dam like he can do no wrong in my eyes. He's fantastic. Love him. Even like the later movies, the J-C-V-D movie, he's just the best. He's the coolest. I love J-C-V-D. Absolute legend to the game. Shout out to John Clad Van Dam.
Starting point is 01:49:42 All right, number five for me. Legend, speaking of. Who? My number five. Also an absolute legend. An Iron Man, Cow Ripkin-esque run. uh over 40 years at her post will a fortune ain't the same without her it's just van na white uh legend i mean this is this is like day one on the job back in 82
Starting point is 01:50:08 uh all the way to now i mean just still killing it outlasted say jack yeah outlasted say jack man that's got to see you guys shout to vana white uh legend of the game number four uh this is this is the van to the stars it's it's it's it's it's lugged luxury travel. It's what you think of. You can, you can pimp it out to almost look like a PJ. Oh. That is the Mercedes Sprinter. Oh, the Sprinter. If you're getting picked up in Mercedes Sprinter, I mean, look at that thing. You know you're traveling around in luxury. Anytime like a big name joins the show from Mercedes Sprinter, you're like, look at this guy. He's traveling in style. Look at that thing. You tell me you don't want to ride in that van? It's inconspicuous from the outside, but if you know, you know, you know. If you know, you know, I mean, look at that. Luxury. Shout out. the Mercedes-Brenzer. Number three is actually the entire shoe company, Vans. Iconic. Skating is nothing without vans. Vans is nothing without skating. It goes together like a movie and a soundtrack. Iconic shoes. Own a few pairs myself. Never the checkerboard
Starting point is 01:51:16 slip on, but I've owned a few pairs myself. Shout out to Vans, the shoe company. Number two, how can you get the mystery ink around other than the mystery machine iconic iconic 1960s Ford tourist transit van modded with a custom dashboard and bench seat pimped out in its blue green and orange
Starting point is 01:51:42 psychedelic paint job transportation for maybe the most famous dog of all time Snoopy or Scooby? Scooby all day I think I'm actually a Snoopy. I'm a Scooby guy. Mystery Machine either way. Number one, though, one of the most valuable men in the history of art,
Starting point is 01:52:04 iconic pictures, starry night, sunflowers, got cut off his own ear and sent it to a prostitute. Allegedly. Is it alleged? Allegedly. Allegedly. He did a self-portrait with the ear cut off. It was like, look what I do for my women.
Starting point is 01:52:21 Yeah, the dude was an absolute nut job, but his top 10 paintings sold, and that's not including, like, Sunflowers and Starry Night. Oh, it's Van Gogh. Van Gogh. Vincent, if you want to call him by the government, but everyone knows of Van Gogh. Everyone knows him as Vinny. Top 10 paintings, not counting the priceless pieces, sold for a combined $712 million. Ooh!
Starting point is 01:52:44 Shout to Van Gogh. Yeah. Fucking out. I thought about it. I might use to cut the ear off move. I've been thinking about it. sending it to a lady? Yo, what's your addie?
Starting point is 01:52:55 Drop the addie so I can mail you my ear. This is before you've even, this is like the first approach. I guess, yeah, if I'm going to send the ear, I've probably been to the house. Yeah, yeah. Don't start with the cutting the ear off. Yo, drop the addie so I can send my ear.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Yeah, this is in the echelon of our dumbest lists, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. I just want to say, I don't think you have a leg to stand on to criticize my Vanderlai when you go Vanna white. Like, they are the same species. I actually appreciate you doing Vanderlae
Starting point is 01:53:25 because I did go Vanna. What's a team van, Frank? A team. I know. You dick. My bet. All right. That was a fun practice.
Starting point is 01:53:37 That was a dumb practice. But I enjoyed it. I'm the same. Shout out to Josh Van. That's why we did it. We did it for you, man. Stand up. As we all pick for.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Pantosia. Represent for me and Mar this weekend. It'll always be Berman at me. nobody signfeld nobody frankie we got any voicemails brother
Starting point is 01:53:57 voice mails yeah I guess no one watches it's all good signfell ahoy hoi hoi 24 and subs here
Starting point is 01:54:09 I am telling you guys in my work emails I am now using who's to check it's tough and ultimately all the time good
Starting point is 01:54:20 and I love it Me too. Thank you. I'm out. Shout out 24 inch though. Who's to check? I find myself walking around because it's so like impressionable saying it like Bob Aram. Like, who's to check?
Starting point is 01:54:36 And I'll just say it to myself sometimes. And then because we hammered it home so hard with the Ballal thing, I would be walking around and being like, without the sex in the Bob Aram voice. For that entire weekend, I was walking around saying that. I thought about pulling out the without the sex at Thanksgiving, but I was at my friend's house and didn't think it would play.
Starting point is 01:54:57 So I'm with you. Who's the check? Without the sex? Without the sex. Yeah, a lot of the drops. I've been saying, my man. My man.
Starting point is 01:55:10 My man. As often as possible. The momentum for the drops is so strong right now. Like people talk to me about the drops more than anything else. Yeah, I mean, they're fucking great. Frankie is cooking.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Frankie has been cooking. Oh, man. What else? Boy, what's up, Brian? What's up, Brian? First time. Hell, yeah. Appreciate you, bro.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Yes, sir. I'm calling in from the south side of Atlanta, Georgia. Yo, fuck, yeah, Jerome. Not to be confused with Atlanta. But, um, shot out boys. Shout out Andy. Shout out Jordan.
Starting point is 01:55:46 Shout out the whole crew. My God. Shout out Josh Child. Hey, shout to Josh Chuders, Hawks Legend. Quick question here. The fro. I've been a lot of movement
Starting point is 01:55:59 with the devil chance, people moving up, people moving down, people moving all around. One thing that I always thought was interesting is that one had their rehydration clause for MMA.
Starting point is 01:56:15 You see this in boxing sometimes. But it just got me thinking, which fighter which UFC fighter would get the biggest boost in legacy from introducing a rehydration call. And I'm curious to know what you guys think. This could be a fighter that's fighting now or somebody in the past who maybe would have had a much better career.
Starting point is 01:56:38 But just curious to know what you guys think about this. Thanks, guys. Keep doing your thing. Talk to you soon. Appreciate your draw. Shout to Atlanta. Thank you for the call. would benefit from a rehydration clause so essentially like someone who doesn't have to cut that much weight fights at their proper weight class my mind instantly went to frankie because everybody
Starting point is 01:57:02 frankie fought was two weight classes bigger than him okay so frankie egger was my first thought i feel like some i feel like some people would say colby covington sure he didn't cut that much weight at 170 there's it basically comes down to those guys though it would be these guys who fight close to their weight and don't really like get out of shape and and And stay in shape all the time, got to cut like eight or nine pounds. I would guess that a lot of the names we'd think of, too, would be in that 150 to 170 pound range. For sure. Because the higher you go, like those guys don't cut weight anyway.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Once you get to like the heavyweight level, the lower you go, those guys are cutting such an extreme amount of weight to, like, stay competitive in those weight classes. It'd probably be like a guy like that. Yeah, Colby's a good one, too. It's an interesting thought. Of the hybrid MMA fighting promotions, which do you guys prefer dirty boxing or karate combat? Josh and Michigan, thanks. Love the reverse there, Josh. End with the...
Starting point is 01:58:04 End with the name. I'm going to be a KFC guy. What's up? Frank padding up the... Yeah, Frank is letting the time run on that one. I think I'm dirty boxing because I've watched more of their events, actually. I watched the gable and the OL. I've only watched a couple karate combat.
Starting point is 01:58:25 I was a late adopter to the BKFC thing. Oh, was BKFC in there? I thought he just said dirty boxing or karate combat. Play that one more time. It was very short. Of the hybrid MMA fighting promotions, which do you guys prefer dirty boxing or karate combat? Oh, you're right.
Starting point is 01:58:48 It was only those two. Okay. Oh, dirt... Mm. Got that shit off, for it. You guys had the orange LaCroix? It's been a big discussion around our office this day. I got it.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Literally just orange. Yeah, what's the discussion? It's not orange juice or orange soda. It shouldn't be orange flavor. I don't agree with that. Jordan's a big fan of the orange gina. What were the... What?
Starting point is 01:59:16 A big fan of the one, Frank? You know that orange. orange soda stuff, they have some time? Yeah, orangina? I've heard of it. I've never heard of this. I didn't know what you were saying. The orange china. What about orange wine? Our Georgian brothers drink that. Wait, so what is the sides of the debate and where do the people fall?
Starting point is 01:59:35 You said it's been a big topic of conversation. Oh, what is the... Everyone just keeps asking me. He tried the orange yet? Oh, it's like brand new? I drink... No, I drink them all the time. Jordan's like, if it ain't juice and it ain't soda, it shouldn't be orange. And I was like, well, what else is an orange flavor? Even that orange chocolate?
Starting point is 01:59:52 You love the orange chocolate. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, that's disgusting. No, Connor loves it. Yeah, I fucking love it. Every year, give me an orange chocolate. Even that orange in Montreal, I always forget the name. You don't go and get something orange. You get spaghetti and meatballs.
Starting point is 02:00:04 That's a fact. Well, that's Ariel gets that. You know who loves orange chocolate is the Brits. They sell it normally, like Cadbury. Do I say orange weird? Orange? Orange? Who's to check.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Yeah, you do a little bit. It's an, it's an a, it's an a, orange, orange. One of my friends gives me grease for heck. We should have you say orange, like, Hawaii says iron. Yeah, orange. That's another great drop we haven't used in a while. Orange, orange, orange, that's how you say it, or? Orange.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Orange. I say like it's spelled O-R-N-G-E. Yeah, and I say A-H-R. Orange, like a pirate almost. Anywho, I don't mind the Orange, LeCroy, and shout out the dirty boxing. Dirty boxing. We're having a hard time with superstars, guys. I mean, there's a lot of, you guys understand this, right?
Starting point is 02:00:59 Everybody knows it. There's nobody that's touched the stratosphere. And I really don't see anyone touching the stratosphere any time soon. What's needed for them to make it? We don't want any more Conner copies. What are we going to do? Someone needs to fill the void. Appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Yeah, I mean, I think that as a fighter, you need to rely on your personality. You need to come out of your shell. You need to use social media as a way to engage with people. I mean, look at Marav de Vashvili. Like, he has become this lovable champ by combining wins with showing his personality, even in his second language of English. I also think there is a responsibility on the promotion to promote its fighters. Like we're talking about, oh, Diego Lopez got another title shot against Alexander Volcanowski
Starting point is 02:01:44 because he puts on these unbelievable, exciting fights. Ron Murphy is coming off one of the most exciting knockouts of the year, the spinning backfits against Aaron Pico. And in addition to that, he has an incredible story. He's been shot in the face. He's called the miracle for a reason. He has this amazing, you know, backstory to go along with his 19-0-1 record in MMA. You build these guys up to make them stars.
Starting point is 02:02:06 You bring the interest in from the fan, and then you get to watch them fight. And if your promotion combined with them winning, that's what really creates a star. Yeah, I think the winning part is almost. most of the more important part at this point in time like it feels like you just have to get out there you have to be like an Alex Pereira but winning in what fashion well that that's true Alex Pereira he's knocking everybody out it's different though if you are if it's different if you are waiting and you're fighting twice a year maybe maximum three times a year and then you get one decision and one uh exciting finish it'd be better in my opinion if you get four decisions
Starting point is 02:02:42 but you were active you were busy you you save the you as an example I'll give you an example. Ian Gary's that guy. Ian Gary is the guy who's, I'm going to be there, I'm going to take the fights, I'm going to show my activity, even though I'm not really finishing fights. And I think that momentum has helped propel him. He's doing that, but then he's also getting on the microphone, getting on social media, calling people out, talking shit, taking all the interviews. You have to have that combo factor. I mean, look at it. Arnold Allen won 10 straight fights.
Starting point is 02:03:07 He said so on the show the other day. He's got 13 UFC fights. And then you look at a guy like Diego Lopez, who's been in the promotion for two and a half years, has eight fights, is now getting his second title shot. Because not only does he have very exciting fights, he does also get out there as well and shows his personality gets on social media, everything like that, has the fancy haircut. Like you need like, you need things to like hang your hat on to go along with the fighting. Alex Pereira is the Shama, the shorts, the get up. And then it's like, oh, this guy's sick. Oh, and he also knocks people the fuck out.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Yuri Prahashka is like this crazy samurai dude who lives out in the middle of the woods. Oh, he's also in a fucking fight of the year every single time. he fights, like, I'm down with this guy. So, like, I think it's just a combo of the two. Like, you can't just win. Like, look at a guy like Movesar. Like, he is not a star at all, and he just keeps winning. Look at Movesar, though, versus Diego, right? Yeah. It's the activity. That's the thing. It's the personality for sure. I don't disagree with that. Like, you need to have the, you need to have the mix. You can't just be this guy who just, like, is nameless, faceless, and wins fights and has no personality. But when you look at Diego signing up to fight John Silva,
Starting point is 02:04:16 In the time, Volk hasn't even had a title defense in that time since. He's now fighting him again. You look at a guy like Mossar. You mentioned Arnold Allen. The thing holding them back, in my opinion, is that lack of activity. Moussars had to pull out of fights. You need to keep your name on the tip of everybody's tongue. And then when you do that, like Eni and Gary, when you grab that mic, now you have four opportunities to go, I need to be the next guy, I need to be the next guy, I need to be the next guy.
Starting point is 02:04:41 So it is that combination. It's being active and it's being loud about, I deserve this. Plus, you just got to have the effect there. Yeah. There isn't it. There is an it. Connor McGregor had it. I think Ilya has it.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Alex Pereira has it. I don't think the UFC really has a star issue in the sense that like there's not people that could become big for them. They need to just be active. We're not getting the fights that we should be getting. Tom Aspinall should have fought John Jones. Never happened. Ilya probably should have fought Islam Makachev. didn't happen.
Starting point is 02:05:16 Like, these are the performances that turn people into stars and we are not currently getting them. We need people to be active. We need contenders to fight each other. And once those things start happening, that's how the stars emerge. I also think number one,
Starting point is 02:05:30 I think number one over everything is win by finish. Yeah. Win by finish. Look at Charles Olivera. He went on an unbelievable run finishing so many people along the way, becomes champion.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Look at Justin Gehche. Dude, if you can go on runs where you get to the upper echelon of this sport and you are winning by finish, will just follow them up with you. I was just calm because I've been watching y'all's show for a while now, and I like to I appreciate that, man. I really like, enjoy watching it, and what would your
Starting point is 02:05:57 opinion be on Volcanowski all time? I just saw a stat today that says he's only lost to double champions. And also, how do you think a fight would go between Prime Nate Diaz and Prime Carlos Prattace? Thank you. Prime Nate Diaz, Prime Coast Prattis. Sign me up for that. banger. That would be an absolute scrap. I do, me, I might take Nate in that one.
Starting point is 02:06:22 I think by the later rounds, I actually think Nate would probably be able to hang in there. I might be able to turn it up. Like, kind of like the Leon fight, where it was like, oh shit, actually the guy who was fresh or later in it was Nate. I'd love to see it. I don't know who I would pick in it. It's just hard to, like,
Starting point is 02:06:39 it's hard to do the math on it with what we've seen from Nate lately and obviously what we've seen from Carlos Prochis lately. So like the recent bias, like, can get to you there. And then what was his other question? Oh, Volk all time? Volk, and he said Volk has only lost to double champions.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Ilya, Islam. But he has a loss to some guy back in the day. Yeah, the welterweight. Tell me his name? Is that guy a double champion? His name is Corey Nelson. Yeah, Corey Nelson. Was he a double champion for like some Australian regional promotion? But I think he's just referring to Islam and
Starting point is 02:07:09 Ilya. I mean, yeah. Volk is a... He's an all-timer. He's an all-timer. Where does he rank in the in the Acheon, like top 15 fighter of all time? I'm sure it's somewhere in that He's a striking range of that. Yeah, he's unbelievable. You have the boys.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Imagine, love the shoes from Belfast Island. Shout to Belfast. You up the guys. Come on. Get that one for the boys on Saturday. He loved it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:37 Yeah. Who's he talking about? I think he's saying like, Go E and Gary. Because this was before Oh, that was before the In-Gary fight? Yep, the lads. What's up, boys?
Starting point is 02:07:51 What's up? Connor from Austin, Texas. Yeah, shout out. Shout out, G.C., W. Name. Shout out to you, gone. Shout out, Rick. Shout out Frank. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Shout out. Andy. Rest and peace. Who me? I think you quit. Stop. Got fired or something. Haven't heard him in forever.
Starting point is 02:08:06 We brought him back from the dead. I got a story. We don't care. Last weekend I was watching a UFC at a sports bar. And, you know, I watched. watch you guys this show so much that, uh, you know, I started talking and drops, which I'm sure Frank does. I'm sure, sure you guys have started to do that as well. And, uh, you know, we were talking about something and, and the guy was the next to you said something about Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 02:08:30 And I hit him with a, who's to check? Who's to check? And, uh, he, he hits me with a, it's tough. And then I looked at him and I go, James Tihuna. And he goes, what the fuck? Who is James I couldn't, I couldn't recover. I finished my beer, and I just walked out. Oh, fuck. It's an auto 25% for the barthenders, so tough scene. Thought you guys were a way to get a kick out of it. But, yeah, keep killing it.
Starting point is 02:09:02 Love the show. Shout out. Shout out, brother. I can't tell you how much that just made my day. So you put out, you said the who's to check, and then he said it's tough randomly, and you thought that was him being like, I also listened, and then he said James Tihuna, and he was like, what?
Starting point is 02:09:21 Or does he listen, but he doesn't know James Tihuna? James Tihuna. He can't not know fucking James Tahuna. Okay. I don't talk in drops, but Frank actually does talk and dropping talking drops. He'll murmur drops to me when we're standing and, like, having conversations. Last night, he did it. Yes, one time someone was giving like a real serious talk,
Starting point is 02:09:38 and he like whispered over to me, he was like, we don't care. I was like, all right, dude. All right, I wasn't confident. You're being a fucking weirdo. Oh, man, that's great. Hey, boys. Taylor from Omaha. What's up, Tyler?
Starting point is 02:09:56 Just air frying some intrepid mushrooms. What did he say? He just took mushrooms, I think so. Intrepid mushroom. Like, French fries go? What's your favorite color? What's your favorite? Who the fuck let this through?
Starting point is 02:10:16 I think for me My favorite is probably Spiral Yeah curly if you will Yeah curly Spiral if you will What's your least favorite My least favorite would probably be like
Starting point is 02:10:30 Like a smiley face or something Something that's like way too mushy Those aren't real fries All right What you got? Yeah, see him Later Enjoy the trip
Starting point is 02:10:41 What's your favorite? Spiral Curly are pretty good Curly are pretty fucking good Or just like real thin Like shoe string With a bunch of like Do you like a thick
Starting point is 02:10:53 Do you like a wedge? No no no no Like steak cut Yeah the steak cut Nah no no Fuck with steak cut Nah fuck you man Can't stand steak cut
Starting point is 02:11:02 What about the The Chick-filet like What do they call the waffle fries Yeah Waffle fries You know what I think that's my number one Bro crispy
Starting point is 02:11:10 Waffle fries with chikful ice sauce Is tough to beat Yeah I'm a waffle Any french fry that allows for more ketchup Because it's really all they are as a catalyst or ketchup I'm actually not a ketchup guy All right I'm a sweet over regular though
Starting point is 02:11:23 Yeah maybe a little hot sauce on there Ranch blue cheese You know what Big AOLI guy No truffle I'm down for the truffle too man We're just not going to get along when it comes to fries What about the people put like vinegar on their fries
Starting point is 02:11:37 Sure let's do it all day long Down for that Like chips that you get with fish and chips Yeah, those fries coated in vinegar, hmm, you guys have steak and shakes? Yes. I've never had it. And they have, like, the pepper sauce, Frank?
Starting point is 02:11:51 Yeah. I do. Their shoestring fries with the, like, it's literally like a vinegar, it's like peppers. It's like a jalapeno, you're our pickled jalapinos, but it's like a small, tiny opening,
Starting point is 02:12:03 so you're just putting like the pickled pepper shit on it. Pickled pepper shit. It's jalapeno brine. You put it on your collard greens and everything, right? Steak and shake fries. After, like, a late night, that hits. Drunk food, drunk food. Waterburger, spicy ketchup.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Shout out to Waterburger. When I was young, I was a big weirdo. Used to get cottage cheese at steak and shake. Came with a pineapple ring? Yeah, that's weird. We'd never get it now, but, uh, yeah, I don't know. I was just a crazy little sixth grader. Sweet though, sweet fries over regular.
Starting point is 02:12:34 For sure. Yeah, yeah. What does that mean? Cinnamon dust on it? Oh, sweet potato fries. Yeah, sweet fries. Yeah, I'm also going to regular. Yukon.
Starting point is 02:12:41 Yukon gold. Candy bar. man go ahead and get on the bandwagon okay salsa boy express yes sir oh that was it that was it I thought he was about to give us a whole like breakdown it sounds like the guy who was yeah he didn't get on the bandwagon yes I thought he was gonna say the van wagon
Starting point is 02:13:01 yes sir yes sir salsa boy 2026 yeah we didn't really address your we haven't had a show since yeah the salsa boys in the back are here. The salsa boys in the back. Yeah, I made a promise on this show. I'd be, I would be leader of the salsa militia
Starting point is 02:13:19 if he got it done, and he got it done. You got it done easily. Derek Lewis? We're knocking people out now. Yeah, Derek Lewis, easy money next month at UFC 324. Let's go. Yeah, shout out to Walo Cortez-A-Costa. I'm going to start taking salsa lessons.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Yeah. Trying to get like him. Trying to get my numbers up. Send a few years out. Yeah, I'm going to put that ear in the envelope. nine kids are happening. The Van Gogh Salsa Way. You and Grand Dawson,
Starting point is 02:13:47 just going to crank them out. Grand Dawson sent an ear to El Dawson. I can promise you that much. It's Trey from South Dakota. I don't know if Frank will play one or both or neither of these, but the main, the whole reason I was on this one. It was for Frank. I don't take back what I said about your stupid pie, pound for pound.
Starting point is 02:14:10 but without the sex I think that should be a drop like maybe it won't be the most appropriate I'm sure Frank's going to misuse it and make some awkward times but Balal saying without the sex or something from that
Starting point is 02:14:28 Belal quote needs to be a drop we're not going to forget that either no that's eternal thanks guys baseman no matter what as long as Belal Muhammad continues to fight in the UFC I will continue to say without the sex
Starting point is 02:14:41 and when people remember and look back on his career that'll be the number one point that I go to not his championship win
Starting point is 02:14:47 remember the name will become remember the moment of him saying remember that it's without the sex can we do an AI of Bob Aram
Starting point is 02:14:56 saying without the sex in the same cadence and tone as who's to check why is everything better in Bob Arum's voice it's just perfect it's just perfect
Starting point is 02:15:06 I can see Bob Aram saying that too it's like the Epstein files without the sex hey what's up boys in the back Nesto 22 here what's up Nesto for you
Starting point is 02:15:21 since y'all live in New York yeah I was curious what your thoughts are on graffiti do you love it hate it who the fuck is curious how these people are dangling off rooftops and stuff
Starting point is 02:15:35 it's jet packs you're wondering Jet packs let me know Nesto 22 out. Thank you, Nesto. That's a fair question. That was a fantastic call.
Starting point is 02:15:45 I wonder the same things, because there's some graffiti in some ridiculous places in this city where I'm just like, how did they... You'd be surprised, man. How did they get up? It seems like garden hoses and shit. Yes, I've seen them like repelling off buildings to do it. That's... Shout off to Quasar that's in my neighborhood in Brooklyn. Like, he does some fantastic work.
Starting point is 02:16:05 So as far as I'm concerned, you got a message you want to get out there, put it there, just, I didn't hear a word you just said because did you start that sentence with shout off instead of shout out? Who's to check? Did I? Connor tuned down after shout off. I'm pretty sure he just said shout off to Quasar
Starting point is 02:16:25 and then I didn't hear another word after that. I'm trying to make it a thing. Shout off. It's a silly goose time right now. Yo, what's up, boys? This is Adam calling in. What's that? I'm just listening to the A.H. show right now.
Starting point is 02:16:40 And you guys are going over the bit where John Jones has blocked New York, Rick. All I got to say is that's a huge badge of honor, man. Oh, he actually went out of his way to look you up, your private account, I guess, and blocked you. I mean, you're in the goat's head, dude. Well done. It's true. Matt Hamill and now New York, Rick. I'm not having. Add me to the list, baby.
Starting point is 02:17:06 John Bones Jones. Have a good one, guys. You too, man. Thank you. Great call. Thank you for the support. It's a trying time. It's a trying time right now
Starting point is 02:17:15 being blocked by John Jones, but I am going to take it as a win. You're right. Shout to Rick for getting blocked by John Jones. He's now officially accepted it. There was a moment when we were first breaking the news to him that it was stressful times. He was going through everything,
Starting point is 02:17:28 pulling it up on his laptop. He's like, this can't be. No, no, no, he must have deleted his account. I'm like, yeah, that's probably what happened. Yeah, the world famous fighter probably deleted his multi-million follower Instagram account. That's probably what it is.
Starting point is 02:17:43 I couldn't fathom a world where his number one fan. Not Johnny Meet. Johnny Meet couldn't have. Still on Twitter. I can still see the Twitter. You can still follow on Twitter. What's good boys in the back? This is Danny calling in from Dongtasta, South Yorkshire, England.
Starting point is 02:18:02 Fuck yeah. G.C., hold on, I'm talking, brother. I was previously featured on big hitters. where I called a RDA round two submission over Brian Barberina, paired that with a Wonderboy round four TKO over Kevin Holland. I was then featured on the nose, where you guys gave me the sterling advice of skipping going to UFC 304 in favor of going on holiday and proposing to my beautiful girlfriend.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Oh, my God, great choice. Potentially also popping a baby in her. Who's to check? Who's to check in British accent? Who's to check in British? Who's to check in British? In 2027, wedding planning was somewhat delayed due to the older surprise baby. Oh, he really did have a baby.
Starting point is 02:18:42 One of my boys is an avid listener of the number one MMA podcast in the world, so I'm going to address him directly now. Harry Stiles, aka Stinky Stiles, aka Barry Smiles, aka Gray Al. Pants helped me get married. Cheers, boys. Love the show. Keep doing what you're doing. You're all more than welcome to come to the wedding, too.
Starting point is 02:19:02 So shout out James Tihuna. Shout to James Tuna. Shout to James Tuna. What a call. First and foremost, what an incredible call. Just right off the cuff, just ripped it. That was fantastic. Who's to Check and a British accent is fantastic.
Starting point is 02:19:18 That's great. Third and probably the most important. Gratz on the baby? No, I'm down to go to the wedding. Oh, we're going? I feel like we got it. I will go if Harry Stiles goes. Yeah, I thought he was about the call out Harry Stiles for a fight.
Starting point is 02:19:32 What was that? He's inviting him to the wedding. He's letting him know he's getting married. Do you want Harry Stiles that you're winning? Yeah, for sure, no? You want to be walking down? He said he's his boy. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Was your wife walking down the island and sees Harry Stiles there? It's a good point. It was like a Mr. Steele your girl moment. Yeah. Is he, what's his dating situation? I have no idea. Yeah, if Harry goes, I'll go. I haven't heard of Harry Styles since watermelon sugar.
Starting point is 02:19:56 No, stop. Nah, he ran a marathon recently. I think the New York City Marathon, maybe a sub three hours for all. according to the internet Harry Styles is currently dating Zoe Kravitz Yeah
Starting point is 02:20:07 After dating Olivia Wild infamously Famously Tough live man Yeah I know Harry's struggling Oh Harry We're praying for you brother
Starting point is 02:20:17 Praying for you here I'm down for the wedding though Send the in the invite Great call as well I'm Hey boys in the back I just want to get off some stuff
Starting point is 02:20:32 off of my chest. Get it off. Can you please tell me why MMA fans like to bitch and cry about every single fucking little, excuse my language, every little thing. One second,
Starting point is 02:20:46 the crying about Islam comes out and all of these wrestling heavy fighters laying on top of each other, holding somebody down for 25 minutes. Then one second, they're crying about Am and not getting the title.
Starting point is 02:21:01 I understand Amin is the number one contender, but at the same time, you can't have it both ways. You can't complain about heavy wrestling-based fighters being boring and complain about them not getting a title side. Yes, I understand this is a sport, but also that's in the entertainment aspect of it also matters too. So just want to hear your thoughts on that Just want to give my two cents Hopefully that can answer my question If not, I understand Thanks
Starting point is 02:21:42 I don't think we're going to be able to answer the question I think people on the internet are just like wildly negative I also just a good point though I was just about to say I think you do make a good point If you are one bitching about all of the wrestling And how boring it is and how you don't want to watch it You also cannot be angry about the title shot Don't cry when Mobstar doesn't get it and Diego Lopez does because that's what you want.
Starting point is 02:22:04 Which is why, like, we let off the show, I don't have a problem with the decision making. Just admit it. Like, just be open about it and I'm totally cool with it. We think the most exciting fight we can make is Patty Pimbleau versus Justin Gagy. Great. I'm in. Headlined it. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 02:22:21 Do whatever you want. As long as we're talking on the same terms, we think Diego Lopez is going to give the best fight to Alexander Volcanowski. And we saw how exciting it was. last time, we're going to do it again, I'm in. Like, I'm totally okay with the justification there. So I think he makes a good point about the same people who are like, oh, Hamzad, oh, he's so
Starting point is 02:22:41 boring, are the ones that, like, cry like, ah, the titles are getting in the time? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Nine fights, nine decisions. Yeah, it's fair. It's a good point. Hey, boys. J.B. from BC here. And so we just got hammered with Snow a couple days ago on December
Starting point is 02:22:58 1st, actually. So it was all good up until then and damn six to eight inches of just wet slippery snow and I'm out here driving watching all these idiots and their two-wheel drives can't get up the hills can barely do anything and uh got me thinking you city boys there how are you when it's winter driving conditions I mean up here in Canada the first thing we do a lot of the time is you go out there and you go find an open spa and you start doing donuts or whipping shitties and some people call them but anyway yeah I was just wondering I mean I bet you uh all the G.C. there. You've probably been out there hitting the
Starting point is 02:23:33 Benjamin, doing a little bit of drifting, you know? And Rick? Yeah, maybe. But anyway, I was just curious. What's the like out there for you guys? Let me know. Yeah, so I grew up in Georgia and, like, a little bit of snow shuts down the city because there's only, like, two snow plows for the entire city of Atlanta. So, like, if it snowed, you were pretty much staying inside. But ever since I got up here and I had to drive, it's just like, you just go slower. Yeah. That's what I learned.
Starting point is 02:24:00 learned is like if you just go slower you'll be fine people are already shitty drivers and then they get 10 times shittier when it's snow or rain but i got a four wheel drive both of my vehicles are four wheel drive you're you'll be all right anyone who tries to drive normally in snow you're gonna fuck yourself don't pump the brakes and if you're sliding like turn this wheel all the way to the side so you're what do you mean don't pump the brakes you do pump the brakes oh don't listen to me don't slam the brakes you don't press on the brakes you do pump the brakes what is a car yeah Hey, boys, it's Josh from Denver. I just want to weigh in on the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua debacle. Way in, Josh. And I feel like everyone is just expecting the 100% success rate of Jake Paul going to sleep immediately. Just like one good connection, and that's it. That's right. I just want to think about the possibility that, like, Jake Paul could have a Rocky Balboa moment.
Starting point is 02:25:00 A rocky one loses the fight but makes it to the scorecards in such an admirable, eyes swollen shut, survived a beating kind of way that there's a world where he loses this fight and then comes out the other side of it seen as as legitimate of a boxer he's ever been seen before. Like, wow, this guy went in there, went all eight rounds against Anthony Joshua, went to the hospital afterwards, but he stood there and took that beating like a real fire. I feel like that is a possibility on the table that people are just not giving any credence to. Either he dies in the first round or it's the fix his end, but I think there's a chance that he could just get the shit feed out of him for a bunch of rounds and come out the other side of it with some metal in his face. How about that? What do you guys think? I think that is the most under-discussed outcome, but I'll tell you why that will never happen. And it's not because Jake Paul might not survive to the end against Anthony Joshua.
Starting point is 02:25:58 it's because if that happens one you mentioned people will say it was fixed or two people will say Anthony Joshua shit the bed they will not give Jake Paul credit for being like oh he's a super tough guy they will just say Joshua either sucks and shit the bed or it was fixed
Starting point is 02:26:14 so unfortunately Jake Paul ain't getting like a rocky moment which is not going to happen plus he's going to get knocked the fuck out he's got to win or make it close Hi, my man Yeah, Frankie, do not put this on here, bro. Thanks, Rick. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:26:38 That one was good, man. Frankie, please do not put that on air. Please, all right, I'm going to try again. I'll calm down. All right. Oh, shit. Tell me there's one more. Hi, my question's for Connor.
Starting point is 02:26:56 Connor, what's going on with the merch? Where do you put it all? Do you have, like, a separate dresser for the merch in, like, regular clothing, or is the merch taking over the regular clothing in the dresser? Or what are you doing with it all? Do you, like, get rid of it? Like, I know you have a two evas.
Starting point is 02:27:14 I sure there's no way that's getting there. Anywho, that's all. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. And have you guys noticed how the main event isn't on draft kings? I live in Massachusetts, and Jan versus Marov is not on draft kings for me. And I noticed when Jan fought McGee, that also was not on draft kings. Or when Volkov fought Almeda, that also was not on there.
Starting point is 02:27:41 So I don't know what's up with the Russian fighters. Can you guys see it? Can you guys play Spets on it? I can't. Thanks. Yep. That's interesting that you don't have Marabian. We have it here.
Starting point is 02:27:53 That's interesting that it's the Russian fighters. We have everyone minus 410 right now, plus 320 yon, over under 4.5, over 4.5, minus 3.95. That's hefty. That's hefty. Yeah, so we have it here. I wonder if that's something with Massachusetts and Russian fighters. I was thinking maybe it's the location. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely the location.
Starting point is 02:28:12 But the Russian fighters not being able to bet on their fights. That's interesting. Yeah, the merch, man, it's getting out of control. It's getting out of control. I do not dress like this outside of work and like I have nicer clothes and I don't have that many closets so like it's taken up a lot of space
Starting point is 02:28:30 and like you mentioned like yeah like a Tui Vasa shirt like I have some I have some random ass merch man like I have like a Lupita Godinez shirt from like 2022 I'm just like probably not going to wear don't forget about that Paul Canerco baby I got a Paul Canerico Jersey. I wear all this shit for fight feasts and then they're like watch parties. And then when you actually see like a sick piece of merch, like full violence is running a sick one from
Starting point is 02:28:58 a Rob right now. You're like, do I need this? It's, uh, yeah, it's tough, man. It's, it's too much. I don't want, I, I would be disgusted to know the amount of money that's been spent since 2021. Uh, and like, yeah, it's just like way too much. It's like, how often are you going to wear it? like I can't wear a shirt that says keep pinging the cunt on the back of it that's not a first day shirt it's not a first day shirt man and like a lot of yeah like when fighters are like down bad on like losing streaks or like maybe there was like a fighter that never was that like appeared like they were going to be something you're like yeah I'll get a shirt and then it's like oh he's not even the UFC
Starting point is 02:29:37 anymore you're like what am I going to fucking do with this I'll tell you what we got to get that salsa boy merch sure regarding people Peter Piotr-Yon and Russian fighters in Massachusetts that appears you cannot bet on any sports or sporting events overseen by Russian or Belarusian governing bodies, leagues, events, and players. That's great. Wow! That's crazy. All right, so it's location plus fighter origin specific.
Starting point is 02:30:05 Wow. That's pretty crazy. I had no idea. Great fun, Jordan, great find. Yeah. My brother calling it. Thanks for looking that up. Good three calls in a road, you know.
Starting point is 02:30:14 Frank, don't put that one on there. Frank, why'd you do them so dirty? It's December 3rd, and I want to know how are you guys celebrating your Spotify Racked? It's Spotify Rapp Day. What's your guys, you know, top five albums or artists or do you guys do anything or podcasts even? Yeah, it's pretty much about it.
Starting point is 02:30:42 Love your show. Love what you guys do. All y'all are awesome. Thank you, brother. You're the man. This one's for Frank, too. Hey, man, let me see your Discogs account, bro. Like, I want to see what kind of records you have. Do you have that, Frank?
Starting point is 02:30:58 Yeah, I've given it to them before. Yeah, I'll post it. You guys can take it. Yeah, man, post it. What is it called Discog? Discogs. Discogs. Okay, so I actually did not have Spotify up until a week ago.
Starting point is 02:31:13 I was always an Apple Music guy. Why'd you switch? I've been kicked off my Apple Music There was an issue You know I've always like I've always been like attached to my parents Apple ID account So I was just kind of riding like they had a family plan
Starting point is 02:31:31 For for Apple Music and everything Downloaded a couple apps You know Pay to play type deals Thought like it's charging to my Apple ID Right My dad calls me up and he's just like hey man what the fuck are all these charges that have been going on for like the last eight months i'm like
Starting point is 02:31:49 nah those are definitely going to my card digging deeper it was his card on my apple id couldn't change it couldn't remove it couldn't do anything like that it was a whole thing so i was like all right bro i'm just detaching from the fam i'm leaving the family iclad account sorry and like they got the notification they called me they're like you left the family iclad again i was like yeah dude i'm not going to keep charging to y'all immediately kicked out of apple music immediately couldn't save anything Playlists. None of that. It's all gone. Yeah, so it's tough. Don't have album music. I'm new to now, Spotify. Welcome to the fam. I'm a Spotify guy. Doesn't make a difference to me at all. It's the same shit. But I do have my YouTube wrapped. My top interests, MMA fight analysis, number one. Number two,
Starting point is 02:32:35 space facts. Shout out, man. Number three, sports highlights. Number four, pop culture news. Number five, music playlists. My top channels were the Ariel Hawani show. Yeah. UFC. Okay. Shout to Embedded. Tape. Shout to countdown. Oh, embedded. Yeah, yeah. Uh, I wish tape. But yeah, they have some free fights on there. DeZone boxing, number three. NPR music. Number four. Was that tiny desk? What would that be? Yeah, tiny desks. I run through a lot of tiny desks. And then number five, Chris Williamson, but now we're getting into the range of, like, that's kind of like throwing a dart.
Starting point is 02:33:13 I've maybe watched like two or three Chris Williams and basically. So it's really the top three are like heavy. It's really just like the top two, honestly. I watch a bunch of random shit on YouTube. I just let the algorithm take me. Space though, huh? Love space shit. All right.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Shout out. Same here, man. Interstellar, all that, you know? What else we got for Wrapped? for my youtube my top five interests are vintage tech reviews all right retro video games unsolved mysteries this is the most frank frank movie analysis and then music history
Starting point is 02:33:49 yes and then my top channels are the basement brothers what is that that is um some guys that live out in japan that just review like old japanese computers from the 80s and 90s they review computers like software games that came out back then. Holy shit, Frank. Then the one true of an area, which I'm surprised with it, because there was like a let's play that like I watched a whole series of, so I'm sure that just
Starting point is 02:34:13 added up. Gaming Jay, the Catho Raid dude who reviews old video and audio equipment, and then distracted nerd, which I think you guys are familiar with him. I know him, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, I got to get my wrapped up next year.
Starting point is 02:34:30 Anybody else in the back there have an interesting wrapped I haven't checked mine but I bet defunct land is on there if you guys haven't checked it out I don't know what that is what is that Mysterious has been going through all of those lately Oh defunct land she loves
Starting point is 02:34:43 Are these podcasts? What is it? It's like more of a video You could listen to it as a podcast But it's like short documentaries On theme parks or rides And like the backstory Things that are no longer around
Starting point is 02:34:56 Very very cool Wait is it only theme parks or rides or that's one thing and there's other things as well? Most of it is theme park. Okay. Like surround it, defunct land.
Starting point is 02:35:07 So it's like, Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would make sense. Okay. That's cool. I'll check that out. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:35:12 Yeah, we saw my 1001,000 minutes earlier. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. Also, all ringer podcasts on there. No love to the Uncrown Network. That's a YouTuber. Shout out to, shout out to everyone that have sent on,
Starting point is 02:35:26 that have tagged us in their rats. It means a lot, man. I love, like, people that I never see engaging with on Twitter and Instagram sending these to us and it's amazing we appreciate the sport more than you guys know and uh my music side
Starting point is 02:35:40 because the only thing I do on the music side is play the K-pop Demon Hunter's playlist the average age on my Spotify says 17 shout out so that's my Spotify age I'm underage without the sex double B
Starting point is 02:35:59 24 inch here. I wanted to tell you guys YouTube wraps Hilwani and affiliate show 0.1 top listener. Good for you 24 Stubbs. You're earned it. I'm not going out. You're earned it, man. You're always in that chat.
Starting point is 02:36:15 Grinding. We appreciate you. That's all of them. Hey. Super chats, brother. Thank you. Everyone that called in, a good batch of voicemails. There were a couple good ones in there. Before we hit super chats, I want to hit two quick things. Please. Number one, an article here, a report from the Irish Times.
Starting point is 02:36:30 Nikita Hand welcomed Supreme Court decision to reject Connor McGregor's appeal bit. It appears that the appeal by Connor McGregor to the Supreme Court to overturn the decision and appeal has been unsuccessful. Nikita Hand being reacting to that and accepting that judgment. So it seems like on that front, like all the appeals and things have been completed as far as I'm aware of like the ones that are outstanding related to the Nikita Hand case. So yeah, Supreme Court rejecting the appeal. It says the court upheld the jury's award of almost 250,000 pounds in damages to mishand and directed. She was entitled to her legal costs against Mr. McGregor. So there we go.
Starting point is 02:37:13 I believe that will conclude all the things. I don't know if he has any additional appeals. I know there was an appeal that was attempted at a lower level court a few months back. But then at the last minute, the lawyers pulled back some of the evidence. and then that didn't end up going through. It appears that there was an appeal at the Supreme Court level that has now been rejected. And so, yeah, I think that ends that saga
Starting point is 02:37:38 in terms of Nikita Hand and Connor McGregor. And if there's anything else, we'll obviously cover it. I imagine Pizzi will have his ear and eyes on it. So more to come, if there is more to come, but for now, I think that concludes business for that. Did you say there was a second thing you wanted to get to? Yes, there was. I want to give a shout out to the people of Indonesia, Thailand, Sri Lanka,
Starting point is 02:38:03 who are going through a very, very tough time right now. There was like a cyclone that hit and has caused like flooding and all kinds of damage. If any of our fans are watching from there, obviously, thinking of you guys, wishing our boy oven, our boy oven in Sri Lanka, everybody out there pulling for you and hoping anybody out there who has a heart for it can support and figure out ways to help those people get back on their feet. So, yeah, really rough times. Mother Nature can be a beast and hard to deal with at times.
Starting point is 02:38:34 But warm wishes and best out to everybody out there. Well sad. And now we can do Super Chats. Soire Jets. Hey, everybody. Don't normally get to listen live. So a nice treat for my 34th birthday. Shout out to the whole crew.
Starting point is 02:38:53 What are your best pre-day stories? Man, happy birthday to you, 34 years young. That's what we say around here. 1991 stand up. Shout out to you, Alexander Simon. Hope you have a great day. Best birthday stories? I have one.
Starting point is 02:39:10 I have one that. Tell us. That's six other than a minute. 21st birthday. Went down to old Savannah, Georgia. Stayed at my boy's grandparents' house who were out of town. You know, the 21st birthday, you're going to do the thing. Bought a keg for the 21st birthday party.
Starting point is 02:39:26 bought it at a gas station I had been using my fake ID yet for a while and the guy was like wait what the fuck you're turning 21 today I was like yeah man of course
Starting point is 02:39:35 got the keg took it down to Savannah then went to a BYOB strip club and so the BYOB that we brought in YOB strip club it's the south man
Starting point is 02:39:47 it's the south on highway roads BYOB strip club and our BYOB was the keg so that took some convincing the guy at the door. So we brought the keg into the strip club. And yeah, we finished the entire keg in there. There was like 12 of us. And then the strippers got involved, started helping
Starting point is 02:40:08 us. It was a great night, great night. All-time, all-time B-Day story. Any further details of what happened that night, or we'll just leave it at that? Made it back to my friend's grandparents' house. One of my friends slept in one of the grandparents' car sitting upright buckled in in the back seat he couldn't find in the back in the back dude we could not find this kid for like 45 minutes uh and like we're just like where the fuck is jeff at like where is he and then we got in the garage and like i opened the door and he's sitting there just like buckle on in the back seat just like in a car that is not his it is it is my friend's grandparents also like it was a very like grandparents house my birthday is in the summer like the AC wasn't working
Starting point is 02:40:50 and I've got walked upstairs, like, one of my, like, fat-ass friends laying on the bed. Sweating ass off. But, yeah, that's all I can share. That's great. All-time B-Day. I mean, the sleep in the backseat's a great detail. I'll take that. That's pretty great.
Starting point is 02:41:05 I mean, the finagle of the keg as are B-Y-O-B. The fact that a B-Y-O-B strip club exists blows my mind. I'm trying to remember the name of it right now. It's not Toppers. Toppers was the strip club in downtown Athens, where I was. went to school at. I can't remember the name of this place. But yeah, all-time night, regardless. Frankie, anything? Andy Jordan? Nah. Too Fast, Too Furious? Birthday party? Oh. All right, so as a summer birthday,
Starting point is 02:41:34 I was a big movie guy so I can feel you on that. Inception for my 17th birthday. Shout out to the... Ballerina. That was a movie we saw? It was. Oh, yeah, you are younger than me, Jordan. Anything for you read? Ninety-seven, Spawn on my birthday itself. It's not like a nice movie birthday.
Starting point is 02:41:57 Movie birthday is sick. Movie birthday sick. Great soundtrack. Nothing goes better than a movie in a soundtrack. A birthday and a movie. I used to do Halloween Horror Nights on my birthdays. Those are memorable. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:42:09 Shout out. Make audio guy answer Magafranck. Why not show all super chats? Maga Frank? make audio guy answer maga it's the maga it's very clever i appreciate that moving on hey you didn't answer the question bro you're ducking and dodging oh so i don't know i thought you're i'm not the one who picks them i did for a while when jordan wasn't here you make that of what you will uh next is a uh from shadow band e9c sent ten dollars and
Starting point is 02:42:44 i think it's the ten dollars shadow band but then save the day when they wrote in their comment afterwards saying I need Jesus Christ Now you want me You just threw me under the bus And now you want me
Starting point is 02:42:56 To advance for you No Are we doing this? This is why I was suspended To add to my comment But forgot To add to my comment But thanks you guys
Starting point is 02:43:06 For making this week A little bit more bearable Lost Mike out of 16 years Thank you guys I thought this was gonna be like Some like heinous message That's incredibly sad I'm sorry to hear that
Starting point is 02:43:15 Shadow Band Thank you for the $10 I wish you hadn't even sent that Hang in there man I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, sorry. We had just seen C.M. Punk lost his dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:24 The famous Larry. Yeah, man, pets are part of the family. That's heartbreaking to hear. Yeah. Shame. We're, we're, our hearts go out to you. Fight Feast with UFC Ignite. Win.
Starting point is 02:43:37 I emoji. I'm down. I'm down. A bad idea. It's a good question. We can find out the best meal from UFC Ignite. I hadn't thought of that. So that's a pretty good idea.
Starting point is 02:43:49 Thoughts. on the odds of an ATT parlay. Who would the ATT parlay be for this one? Is Duncan down there? Where's Crystal? You grab Pantosia at like minus 238. You grab. Duncan is on it.
Starting point is 02:44:04 Is Melanchores? No. Who else is on there? I kind of feel like I wish she had outlined it. Just like outlined it. Just off rip. So we got Duncan.
Starting point is 02:44:17 We got Pantosia. Where's Dawson? that? Yeah, I feel like Dawson. Top team. Yeah, top team. So that's Dawson. Trying to see if I can pull up,
Starting point is 02:44:29 pull up there. Where's Macy at right now? My alpha male still. Where's their main location? Deerfield? No, Coconut Creek, right? Coconut Creek. There it is.
Starting point is 02:44:42 American top team. Bang. Oh, yeah, they don't have the list of the fighters. Grant Dawson. Here we go. Scheduled four. Let's go for December 6.
Starting point is 02:44:56 There we go. Pantosia, Grant Dawson, Edson Barbosa, and Chris Duncan. I don't like the Barbosa side of that. Yeah, me neither. The other ones I like.
Starting point is 02:45:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Best of luck. Best of look with the bet. So no, I don't like it. I would not consider betting one penny on Van or Jan. Marob and Pantosia easy money. Great show and keep up the great work. Nubian Bookstore, big hitters alumni.
Starting point is 02:45:23 Fucking Marcus, legend. Thanks for the $10. Shout out to Nubian Bookstore. I would listen to him because he knows his shit. I think we're all aligned on that one. He knows his shit. What's a Nubian? Oh, that's the name of the bookstore.
Starting point is 02:45:34 Got it. Vandalay Industries. Thanks for that one, Electric Boot Sable. That's a Seinfeld reference, right? Yeah. Vanderlay Industries was the fake company that George had. I don't watch that until. Never heard of it.
Starting point is 02:45:47 I wouldn't know. Better for Alex. his legacy three belts or john jones win three belts three belts um john jones win okay i love it taking john jones oh is is
Starting point is 02:46:04 taking don jones one into two no stop it i mean i look we we reviewed it earlier man hamill dominic rayez me Eric Alex perrera he joins the mount rushmore of guys that have defeated john jones uh three belts First ever do it.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Fuck, it would be pretty... Yeah. You get the picture of... A belt around the waist and holding the two belts? Come on. And a new tattoo somewhere? Yeah. How about this answer?
Starting point is 02:46:30 Both of those would be fucking incredible. Like, if those are the options for Alex Pereira... Also... He's in good standing. There's a chance to get to one he has to do the other. Yeah. If he... Crazy.
Starting point is 02:46:41 If he fucking beats John Jones and then goes on to win a belt at heavyweight, Go. Yeah, I agree. I'm going with the conversation. By the way, boys, my YouTube wrap. 0.01% of viewers for the 8th show. No one watches like me besides 24-inch dubs. Appreciate you, Benjamin Turk.
Starting point is 02:47:01 Shout out Benjamin Turk. 1840. Any significance there? I don't know. But the usernames, I hate it. Changed it to like the aths now instead of the... We appreciate you either way, Benjamin Terry. Thanks, Benjamin.
Starting point is 02:47:14 Even that. Most overreated Christmas movie, I say the cranks. Frank says love actually moving on I say Christmas story That's not a bad one It is a bad one Yeah I don't love You gonna shoot your eye out
Starting point is 02:47:29 Fuck I don't It was good the first like 30,000 times When TBS does the 24 hour marathon I'm like get a grip Get a grip There's so many better ones Elf Christmas vacation Klaus
Starting point is 02:47:42 Love Actually French What's the one you love Frank God damn it. Eyeless, sightless minds. What is it called? Eyes Wide Shut. Eyes Wide Shut.
Starting point is 02:47:53 Which I showed Rick last night to the venue down the street from my apartment that is showing eyes by shut on the 23rd of December. Oh, cool. The hipster Brooklyn Place is showing it. That means it's a Christmas movie. And it would call it Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece at Christmas movie. I'll have to watch it. You want to go on 20th? You don't want to see Tom Cruise yet?
Starting point is 02:48:14 No to both of those. No, I haven't seen it. No, I don't want to go on the 23rd. Tom Cruise getting all freaky deaky, but Nicole? Rick you down? Mm-mm. Without the sex? All right, now that you say that.
Starting point is 02:48:26 Served Mike Perry today, and now he is my second favorite celebrity behind Rixon that I've served at my job. Oh, yeah. Why is that so funny? His name's Hickson. Oh, wow, wow, shout out, shout out, shout out. Good call. Oh, fuck. Congratulations on serving Mike Perry.
Starting point is 02:48:42 Yeah, congrats. Did, I mean, we need to do. What did he order? Order, like, tip. Well, like, tell us the story. Yeah, it was the tip. Who's to check? That was Mike Perry's tip.
Starting point is 02:48:54 Who's to check? That was all the superchats. That was all the superchats? That was all the superchats. All right, that'll do it for us. I think we've covered it all today. Go see 323 this weekend. Do not forget watch party right here, 945 Eastern Standard on this very channel.
Starting point is 02:49:12 We'll watch the fights with you, bring it right in to the post show. with three pock directly following us but don't forget about the crack tomorrow post way in show pizzi and the gang will get you ready 323 miran fight of the year pantosia flyway goat no we'll see that'll do it for us though look at my legs swinging like a little kid peace i got new kicks I don't know.

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