The Ariel Helwani Show - Conor McGregor calls for $100 million, UFC Perth preview, PFL simplifies their titles | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

The Boys in the Back double up this week and the show begins with a recap of all the stuff they missed since Monday, including Charles Oliveira getting Mateusz Gamrot (01:37), Jake Paul and Gervonta '...Tank' Davis facing off (07:53), PFL simplifying their title structure (19:37), Conor McGregor calling for $100 million to fight at the White House (48:38), and more.Plus, a UFC Perth preview (57:40), picks (1:23:26), P4P Three-Namers (1:27:11), voicemails (1:47:19), and Super Chats (2:22:46).

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Boys in the Back Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. What is good? Should I say, good a mate? Welcome in to another edition of the Boys in the Back this time Thursday. September 25th, I am one-third of the Boys in the Back. We're working a double this week.
Starting point is 00:00:19 You guys are getting two episodes of the Boys in the Back. We obviously did our Monday special due to Hawaii being out. Now we're back on our typical Thursday. This time to preview. UFC Perth, react to all the news and notes. I am one-third of the boys in the back, Connerbergs. Join alongside me, as always. Mr. Monday afternoon, back to his original Thursday spot.
Starting point is 00:00:40 It's Eric Jackman. It's New York, Ray. It's good to be back on a Thursday. But I did enjoy our little Monday, a La Iquinta joining us in studio. The fans seemed to really enjoy that, so it was a good little time. Oh, Reginald was fantastic.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I now have a wardrobe that's half full of Ia Quinta Realty shirts. I got a white edition. I got a black edition. And I got a long sleeve. It's truly fantastic. Frankie, how are you doing back there, man? You're feeling all right?
Starting point is 00:01:04 I know working two shows is tough for you. You know, working two shows, double the pay, double the overtime pay. I love it. Wait, you get paid for this? Yeah. Yeah, I get paid in likes and subscriptions. So it's great. To what?
Starting point is 00:01:17 To my personal YouTube. Oh. You guys are unfamiliar. Through the Frank Lens? Through the Frank Lens, exactly. Shout out. I got the Australia jersey on. I got the Australian hat.
Starting point is 00:01:28 We can save that for. a little bit later on in the program when we preview the card in Perth this weekend. Western Australia, the UFC makes its return. We got some news and notes to react to, though. Quite a bit. You got, you know, Halwani doing Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We're able to get in there and react essentially every day. Haven't really talked since Monday. Quite a bit has happened, like you mentioned. Let's start with Mateus Gamrod getting his shot. He was calling for it on Twitter. He was banging the drum for it. And sure enough, he gets it. He will be taking on Charles Oliva on just, what do we say,
Starting point is 00:02:01 two and a half weeks notice down in Rio, going to the man's home country and taking them on in the main event. I respect both sides of this equation so much from the Gamrod side, obviously stepping into a big opportunity on very short notice in Charles's native country of Brazil and stepping into a big spot
Starting point is 00:02:20 when it seems like many others weren't willing to have to respect that. But for Charles Oliveira, like, Montez-Gamrod is somebody that no, really wants to take like this is the fight that is constantly out there he's calling out everybody and seemingly nobody wants to fight him stylistically he's a nightmare for most people and so for charles olivera in you know headlining this card to be like yes i will take the guy that nobody wants to fight in this division to save the card my my hat comes off to charles olivera my my respect grows for charles olivera a guy that no one really wants to fight that doesn't really have that
Starting point is 00:02:58 much star power. People obviously know who he is. He's 25 and 3. He's a top 10 lightweight in the world, but doesn't have that massive name recognition. And you're going from a guy in Fiziv, who mostly is a striker now to an excellent grappler in Menteich Gamrott. So I'm with you. The respect grows. Charles Olivera had this to say about accepting his fight with Meteish Gamrott. Obviously in Portuguese. That's the guy we're going to go to war with. The rest just wanted the hype.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Just wanted to talk nonsense, but that's part of it. That's how they think it works. Matej Gamron, thank you for accepting the fight. It's going to be a war. The lion is hungry. I am full of desire. October 11th will meet in the cage. Yeah, he's a gangster.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Charles is the man. He's ready to go against anyone. And honestly, on the flip side of that, Matej Gammarad is also a gangster. Yeah. We have the reaction video of him finding out that he got the fight against Charles Oliver, obviously one of the biggest fights of his career, in Rio de Janeiro, against him.
Starting point is 00:03:58 massive superstar in Charles Oliver, this is how he reacted. You see what this is how I'm reacting. Yo! Whoa! Look at it, the goosebumps. What here's
Starting point is 00:04:14 what here was chival. Look at this. This is not how I'm reacting if I found out I had to fight Charles Oliver in two and a half weeks. I think the just the reaction because he finally has a fight. Like, nobody wants to fight this guy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And, like, we've heard Dustin Corrier bang the drum for him talk about, like, how he's ready to go against anyone, he's a savage in the training room, like, he is an actual beast, he's one of the best lightweets in the world. I mean, that's proven in his record and his accolades. I think he was, like, 13 in L and KSW. He's 8 and 3, now over in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And honestly, it's just incredible, the sheer just, like, happiness that this man has by getting this fight, he's going from fighting an unranked fighter and Ludovit Klein to now main eventing in Rio against one of the biggest stars of the sport, a top five lightweight in Charles Olivera. Yeah, huge opportunity.
Starting point is 00:05:07 And we were talking earlier about, like, you know, people don't want to fight Gamrot. There's a risk tolerance for each fight that you're going to take, right? If I'm fighting for the title, I'm willing to fight anybody because, you know, the risk is worth the reward. If you're fighting Charles Olivera and a big opportunity, like, it makes a lot of sense, right? It's worth taking the risk, even though it's on two weeks notice.
Starting point is 00:05:27 What's so interesting about Gamrod is the risk is not often worth the reward for a lot of these fighters, right? It's, as you said, not a huge name, not a lot of accolades come with it. Stylistically, you know it's going to be an extremely tough fight. So it's like, it's easier to just not take the fight with Gamrott. Charles Olavera, a gangster taking it, a gamrod, a gangster for stepping into this big opportunity. It makes a lot of sense from both sides. And he called a shot on social media and he was able to get it. So I'm happy for everybody involved.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And this is the one where if he wins this, then he's into that upper echelon. into that top five. He's into that like, all right, man, I got like one more. I got like, I'm close. I'm banging on the door for this title shot. No, absolutely not. He's got to win over-arming. No, absolutely not. Like Lorone Murphy, like Mavsar, it's going to take 15 in a row for Gamra to actually get a title shot. Which is damn near impossible. Yeah, there's, there's no way that this gets him one away because they, his style is not one that the U.S. I guess who do you book him against after this if he wins? Well, we'll get there once. I mean, he's got a massive test in Charles Olvera in just two and a half weeks. We'll see what happens
Starting point is 00:06:30 in that one. I can't wait for it. That's going to be a great fight. Another fight that got announced on that card, Joel Alvarez. Making his welterweight debut, taking on Vicente Lucke. I'm stoked for this. I mean, like, if you don't know Joel Alvarez, he just got into the top 15 at lightweight, but he's a massive dude. He's like 6'3. Couldn't stay there forever. Moves up to 170. 22 wins. 22 finishes. He is an absolute savage in the cage. if he goes out and performs against Vicente Lucke, it's just like, all right, welcome to 170. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, he's a human highlight reel. He's, he's a, every time out there, it's a performance that you need to see, whether he wins or loses. As you said, also, physically imposing. Like, just the physicality on this guy is very different than a lot of the other fighters you see in the division.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm always happy to see him fight. I think Vicente Lucke is a decent matchup for him. Obviously, somebody with a good name and somebody that I think stylistically is going to play into the style that he wants, this will come down to, like, what version of Lucay do we get, as is the question that we ask pretty much every time Lucay fights, and is this stage, you know, the right stage for Joel Alvarez at this point in his career? Ultimately, just early forecasting, I think this is going to be a showcase for Joel. I think this is
Starting point is 00:07:45 going to be like a coming out party. Seven and two in the UFC now moves up to 170 from 155. That'll be interesting to watch. Another fight that has already been signed. The ink has dried on the contracts. Jake Paul versus Gervante, Tank Davis. They have now started their press tour, doing pressers, doing face-offs. And we got to see the very first face-off right here in New York just this week. The size difference is... Yeah, it's apparent.
Starting point is 00:08:16 To the point that Jake is bending down to look at him like he's a child. Like he is a child. And like, it's interesting to see, like, Jake is obviously like he's always trying to put on a show. He's always trying to entertain to make it as, as goofy as possible. Tank was testing the reach there. See that he came up about four feet short. Looking at the body shots. Where can he, where can he plant the body shot? Tank obviously 30 and 0 or whatever he is, 30.0 and 1, like championship, you know, top 10 pound for pound box from the world. He obviously is viewing this like, it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:08:51 the size differential. My skills will carry me here. Yeah. And I think MVP is rightfully building the fight itself that way. He's 30-0-1, which is, is the experience and the accolades going to win out or is the physicality, right? Is the size difference going to be the determining factor? Here we go. So this tweet from most value promotions made you look, the size difference is bigger or the experience difference. So they're saying, which one's going to come into play more? Is it going to be the size of Jake Paul? Is it going to be the experience of tank? Looking at the pictures, looking at the video, I do not understand how anybody thinks. Tank is going to win this fight. I just don't get it. Look, you're never going to get me to say that Jake Paul
Starting point is 00:09:33 is a better boxer than Tank, but the size difference is so startling. I can't imagine how he's actually able to close that distance. Like, Jake is so much bigger than him. It's comical. It's comical to the point that I, again, this is not a fight I was like clamoring for. I'm interested in it just from the perspective that it has two names that's going to draw some attention and it is going to be on Netflix, but the actual fight itself, like, I just don't see it. And I know, you know, there's a lot of people out there, including the bookmakers that are like, you know, Tank's going to win this fight because he's a better boxer. I get that, but that's typically at the same size or even like a little remotely different size. It's, it's a man and his son. It's a man looking,
Starting point is 00:10:13 like a kid. It's me and my son squaring off. I don't, I don't understand how the line is not swinging significantly toward Jake. I mean, it's six or seven inches of height. We got, the official rules. Nekisa Bedarian listed them off at the press conference. Maximum weight of 195 pounds. You have to imagine Jake is going to be coming in there at 195 pounds. 10, 3-minute rounds. I'm very curious at what weight tank comes in. That's the question for me. Obviously, Jake is going to come in at 195? Is tank going to come in at 5? Well, I don't know what the sanction, like, in terms of, in terms of the rules for
Starting point is 00:10:50 Florida when it comes to the weight difference, right? There's certain jurisdictions where the allowable weight difference is a certain number so that people can't be too far over their opponents. I imagine that they've already figured out that Florida is not subject to that and that there's not going to be a discrepancy as long as he makes a certain amount of weight. But 170? What's the most that tank could even possibly weigh at the size and frame that he has? That's what I'm saying. Even at 170, now you're talking about like, dude, he's just like a giant dude at this point for his size. Like he had to have bulked up massively for that. I'm definitely interested in how much tank weighs for this.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's the biggest factor to me. They'll have 12-ounce gloves. There will be USADA testing and three commission-approved judges to score every round of this exhibition. Obviously, you could never sanction this as a professional fight with the weight discrepancy. Yeah. And so we have it. It will happen. It will happen.
Starting point is 00:11:46 We got, yeah, 6'1 versus 5 foot 5. This feels like a lying 5 foot 5, though. I am six foot one when I stand next to someone, no offense to them, that is five foot five. I am like, I am towering over this person. Yes. I am much, much taller. We literally saw it. Jake is towering over a tank.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It is bizarre to me that there's an expectation that like somehow the boxing skills of tank, which are very high level, incredibly high level, he's going to be enough to mitigate the fact that. Insane power as well. It does have an equalizer. It's insane power. But if Jake Paul stands there like a cartoon and puts his hand on Tank's head and Tank is windmilling at him. How is he going to hit him? I just don't understand. It is tough, Terrence. Thanks for that. I'm all over the Jake Paul underdog. Let me just say that.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I'm trying to find the line right now. What is, what was the line that we found? When you said it last time, Jake was like plus 300 something. It is now Jivante taking Davis minus 215, Jake Paul plus 164. Yeah, that's a lot more reasonable. I'm still all over Jake Paul as an underdog. Some other fights were announced for that one. Alicia Baumgardner will be on the card. He always make sure to add some high name value talent, especially in the female divisions to his card. And they said it. MVP said it. The biggest fight card of the year just touched down in the 305. And at first when I read that, I was like, eh. And then I was like, wait, this might actually end up being the biggest fight code of the year with it being such a spectacle, Jake Paul, Tank Davis, on Netflix. I have to imagine. The most eyes is what I'm saying. Yeah. This will be the most watchfight of the year, for sure.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And if I'm not mistaken, it said on that poster, Alicia Baumgarner will be fighting in a 12. 12 round, three minute. Exactly. Twelve rounds, three minutes, you know, men's rules for lack of a more poetic way to say that. But yes, she'll be competing under 12, three-minute rounds. Ellie Scottney, also back on that card. So yeah, man, it'll be a spectacle that'll be taking place next month, November 14th on Friday, the Friday before the MSG card here in New York, UFC 322. Tank Davis at the press conference forgot when it was happening. He was like, When are we fighting again? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:53 They were like, bro, the 14. When Nikisa was going over the weight and the rules, he also seemed to forget that at 195 pounds as well. We had the other face-off as well. They did another face-off, and I wanted to play the video because I'm interested in getting your thoughts on just them kind of building it. Like we see here, there's going to be a little. I mean, it is pushing from tank.
Starting point is 00:14:16 There it is. A little back and forth. And then ultimately, like, from there, it kind of cools down. I don't think there's any animosity I don't think there's bad blood I think they both see this as an opportunity to make a lot of money A ton of money
Starting point is 00:14:27 They're putting on a spectacle There will be so many eyes on it Come November 14th on Netflix Do you think there's any chance Tank is just here to show up Because it's an exhibition Maybe Maybe I mean his excuse
Starting point is 00:14:40 If he loses is like brother The guy had 40 pounds on me And it doesn't count on my pro record And eight inches of reach And I got paid $50 million for it Or however much to get paid bad look if you are, I guess Tank is maybe a little bit immune to this because I was going to say it's such a bad look if you lose to Jake Paul if you are an elite boxer. But at the same
Starting point is 00:14:58 time, Tank's been talking about retiring for so long. I'm almost done with boxing. Like, dude, this is a, this is a monster. Yeah. And then I saw Aidan Ross was at one of them and he was trying to put a bet down with Tank. And then it ended up escalating to where the point Jake and Tank put an additional $2 million bet down on each other. We'll see if either of those get paid. If that actually happens. I feel like that happens at almost every Jake Paul fight and then no one ends up getting paid from it. Yeah. And it seemed like Aiden Ross was like wanting to get in on it. And then once the money started escalating and escalating, he's like, no, no, you guys are good. I'm out of here. I think it'll get paid because I think their purse is going to be enough to pay it.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I just don't think they're going to have a very hard time building to this fight in terms of the like Jake Paul fights are best when he has somebody who's a foil who I think. think has the animosity toward him, I don't think Tank really dislikes him. I think it's kind of just more like very clear that Tank is here to be part of the show and be part of the circus that's coming to town. And I think they're going to have a hard time building the like true animosity. Not for nothing. The Mike Tyson one didn't feel like there was like true animosity there either. It was more like I'm locked in on Mike Tyson. I don't know. I don't know how many more of these Jake Paul can do. I almost feel like the next one has to be an Anthony Joshua type where
Starting point is 00:16:17 it's like somebody who is clearly going to be trying to come take Jake Paul's head off and want that opportunity. But for now, I do not doubt that there will be a lot of people watching this. I will be watching this certainly. And yeah, we'll see what the build looks like. We'll see as this approaches. But Jake Paul on Netflix, he does it again. Yeah, bro, I don't even know if he really needs a foil. Like I think, I think Javante Davis's role in this is to be like nonchalant and be like, you are not a real boxer. I'm going to smoke you. The size different doesn't matter. But if you do that and then lose, then what? If you do that and then lose...
Starting point is 00:16:50 You get 50 pounds on me. Yeah. Seven inches of height. Dervante does seem to not care, which I think is a good attribute for him in this scenario. But I don't know. I just feel like as an elite fighter, because he is an absolutely elite fighter.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I don't know if you want to take an L to Jake Paul. And also, if you're Jake Paul, say you do knock out tank Davis. Like, it would go crazy, get up on the ropes going to be a lot of time. Yeah, of course. Pound for pound great. Yeah. But it's just like, dog, you were double his...
Starting point is 00:17:17 size. No, that's okay. He's a pro boxer. He's a world championship level boxer. There is one other name putting his hat in the Jake Paul ring, but not in the actual ring. In the cage. The man has enough experience in the ring. He wants to go to the cage. That's won Alexander Usick. He took to Twitter and had this to say, good plan, Jake Paul, but I'm not here for fifth place, only first. Soon, I'm going to close the books on boxing, and after that, I'll be waiting for you in the cage. Let's see if you've got the balls are just a hunger for hype. So where does this take place? PFL. And it would have to because Jake Paul signed for MMA to PFL. Are we getting in the smart cage? O'Sik makes his smart cage debut. It would be massive for PFL.
Starting point is 00:18:02 It's a brilliant move by Ucic because in the boxing ring, like it doesn't really like circles. He could do it. It would make sense from a money perspective, but like I don't know if people are necessarily signing up for that fight because It feels like a waste of Usik, right? Usik is at such a level that like a Jake Paul fight would be silly. Walk circles around him. The MMA fight adds a little intrigue to it, a little appeal. Also, Jake Paul, not exactly versed in MMA. So it's like a little safer for Usik to throw that challenge out there.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I'm interested to see where that ultimately goes because Ucic has kind of like teased. Oh, Alex Pereira. Now Jake Paul, he's kind of doing that thing where you, Tyson Fury used to do, where it's like you talk about some of these guys. And then you ultimately don't end up in the ring until guess what? Francis Ngano who fucking ends up in the ring
Starting point is 00:18:45 with Tyson for Usik and I would watch the shit out of that. I would watch it versus Jake Paul in M.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, I'll watch it in boxing too with a full expectation that Jake Paul's not competitive for one second to that fight.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I mean Usen minus 5,000 is I'd take that to the bank. I'd bet a lot on that but I think in MMA it has a little
Starting point is 00:19:06 at least of the like mystery around it and a little bit of the unknown, the uncertainty around it. Not that I think Jake Paul is going to win that fight,
Starting point is 00:19:14 but there is a little bit of like, oh, what if Jake Paul decides to wrestle? What if he goes in the lab and does that? What will it look like if you do that? Enough for me to tune in. We'll see if that, yeah, here it is. My five-year plan, B. Dusick. I think he was probably referring to boxing when he listed off this five-year plan. Yeah, I have a feeling.
Starting point is 00:19:29 That one's going to be a tough one to cross off the list. Maybe he does it in the smart cage. And speaking of the smart cage, we got some announcements this week from PFL. Not from Don Davis, though, from new CEO John Martin. They're going to be doing a card in Leone, France. in December. Heavyweight title on the line. Fadim Nenkov versus Hanan Ferreira.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Chris Cyborg versus Sarah Collins in the featherweight title. John Martin took the social media to make the announcement. Hey, everybody. John Martin, CEO of the Professional Fighters League, breaking news. We're going to be coming to Leo. December 13th. With two championship matches. First, Nemcov versus Ferreira for the heavyweight world championship.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yes. And also I'm glad they didn't The co-name is going to be icon Chris Cyborg fighting Undefeated Australian-born Sarah Collins Hope to see you there There's the poster for it
Starting point is 00:20:25 All right so a few things here Yeah The stance looked a little bit uncomfortable But do you like the video Do you like the idea like Dana White does the If you don't know now you know And it's like Dana talking to you This feels like their version
Starting point is 00:20:36 Do you like that idea? Definitely wasn't the If you don't know now you know Because he didn't give any background at all He was just like Vadim Mem Kovin on for Cyborg, Sarah Collins, video out. Could use a little bit of music underneath, a little bit of hype. He needs a tagline, too.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He needs a, what's up, guys. He needs, like, what Dana White does? He needs his own version of that. Do you feel like he has that kind of energy? The what's up guy's energy? We just got to get there. We just got to get there. That was the first one.
Starting point is 00:20:58 He was probably a little bit nervous. But I do like this announcement. Yes. Because it came with essentially a slew of other things from the PFL. We're getting the heavyweight title. Deem Nemcov, Hanan Ferreira, not to be confused. A lot of people automatically brought up Francis Ngano, the Super Fight's heavyweight champion right now. Cyborg also the Super Fight's Featherweight champion right now. PFL is now making a push to just go one division, one champion, putting on the best fights. That seems to be the goal. They made this announcement.
Starting point is 00:21:40 a lot of first person on here. My goal, you know, we are, I believe this is from the point of view of CEO John Martin, but he talks about how they are now simplifying the championship system going forward. Each division will have one PFL world champion, the single undisputed title holder in that weight class. You saw it recently with Costello Van Stenis when he scored a last second one over Johnny Epplin to become the PFL middleweight champion. Next up, title fights, Usbander Magamatov, Paul Hughes. That will be for the lightweight world championship. championship. Corey Anderson, Yagshir Muradav, 2 for the light heavyweight championship, which is taking place on that same card next week. And then Vadim Nemcoff and on Ferreira,
Starting point is 00:22:21 Chris Cyborg, Sarah Collins. He also references to the confusion between the unique distinctions in the past, the super title held by Francis Ngano. That was a special one-time designation going forward. Those belts may be used only for occasion of special events. And importantly, he will be engaging directly with Francis to determine what's next for him in the PFL. My goal is clear, and this is, to me, one of the most important parts. One champion, one division, one world title, a system that is simple for athletes to chase and for the PFL fans to follow. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. It is directly cribbed from the UFC, right? The UFC has one champion in each division. Every once in a while, hey, we want to do a BMF title, right?
Starting point is 00:23:07 There's an opportunity for that. You can do these miscellaneous belts. It also happens in boxing, right? Every time Jake Paul fights, there's a new made-up title on the line that they have. So that's that part. The tournament structure, do we still see that? Do they ultimately continue with that? If they do, it will be very clear, right?
Starting point is 00:23:25 There is no confusion around this. There is no misspeaking. There is no talking out of both sides of our mouth. That is not our champion. Our champion is known, and that will be the one that is determined by these fights and then subsequent fights after, should they lose it or win it. But those tournament champions, if they continue with tournaments, are not going to be champions.
Starting point is 00:23:42 They're just going to be tournament winners. And I think that makes a lot of sense and has been done in the past, right? Like Pride would have tournaments. Sometimes there's a title. Sometimes there's not. UFC would have mini tournaments, sometimes unofficially, sometimes officially. You can do that without having a champion crown at the end of the tournament.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And Strike Force used to do Grand Prix. Sometimes the champion would be in there, sometimes not. And to me, I almost feel like you should use the tournament especially with this sort of condensed format that they're now doing. I mean, all the tournaments are already done for the year, if I'm not mistaken. You should use that to create title challengers in the division now that there is going to be a singular champion crown. Like Oleg Popov wins the heavyweight tournament, and then a couple weeks later, you've got Fadim Nemcov versus Hanan Farera. Ferreira got smoked by Francis Agano.
Starting point is 00:24:29 If you're pop-off, it's like, damn, why am I not getting a chance to fight for that belt? So I almost feel like the tournament should be used as feeders, as developmental tools to give guys shots at the title or to get them higher up in the rankings, not where you have SuperFights champion, heavyweight champion, and then you have the tournament champion. To me, it should be used as a feeder to get to the belt ultimately. Does it add enough to even do it? Maybe you just get rid of tournaments altogether. Oh, fuck, yeah. I mean, that's option number one. I mean, to me, he should have said, we're done with the Superfights title thing.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't know what we were doing then. That's out. We're not even going to use them occasionally. No point in even having those. Because to me, keeping that designation, like being like, oh, yeah, we'll use it occasionally when Francis and Ganu fights again. It's like, why not just have Francis become the champion of the organization?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Why only designate it with these super fights things? Yeah, but that even is a separate conversation, which is like, because that was Bellator versus PFL. But I think, you know, even the tournament winner, right? Let's say they get a trophy, whatever. The usefulness of the tournaments in general might be completely gone. where you can just continue to give these fighters enough fights that they just advance and you have your own ranking system and continue that way.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Ultimately, to me, a step in the right direction and one that we've all been kind of calling for, right? Combine the rosters and tell us who the champions are. Those are the things that people continue to say and continue to beat the drum on. Now it finally seems like the PFL might be listening. The statements by the CEO mirror that, right? They match what people have been saying. It's nice to sort of see John Martin as this face, as this,
Starting point is 00:25:59 as this one voice for what's going on with PFL. He did do an interview with Nolan King for MMA Junkie. It was a great article. There were a few things that I took away from it. He is acutely aware of the rights deal with ESPN being up in 2026. They need to have value to present when these rights deals are up, which I found to be interesting. He also said that he doesn't really view them as a competitor to the UFC right now.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He says that they're not naive in that. I find that to be very refreshing rather than, we're number two, baby. look at us we're number two like we're the second best organization it's like no man we're creating our own brand over here we're not a competitor to them now but maybe one day we can achieve that status of being such a big brand that they're a competitor and then obviously what we just mentioned the simpler format all those things i just feel like has pfl moving they're moving in the right direction it's good to be able to point to a face um we have a quote here from john martin from that article i think we've been asking the fans a lot to keep track of all the various formats i'm
Starting point is 00:26:58 interested in putting on the best fights we can for as many people as we can. So that would seem to allude to like maybe no more tournaments, the idea of let's just simplify what the offering is. I don't necessarily think tournaments don't serve a purpose. They can be fun. They can be exciting. They were one of the things that I think Scott Coker and Strikeforce and even in his run with Bellator kind of did that got people excited because tournaments like lend themselves to
Starting point is 00:27:20 you being able to identify matchups that are upcoming. But I would use them sparingly and otherwise you can continue to kind of build these divisions. Their problem is always going to be talent. That is the mission, that is the issue, that is the thing that always, you know, prevents the number two from advancing upon the UFC. If they can continue to sign top level talent, and that doesn't necessarily mean biggest names of today, but maybe the biggest, the names that are going to be the biggest tomorrow, those future stars, that's when you're really going to make inroads. But structurally, I like the direction they're going. Now it needs to become a place that talent want to sign, right? PFL needs to be a place where the Gable Steveson's of the world,
Starting point is 00:27:59 consider going with PFL as opposed to just going straight into the UFC. You've got to get Dumbay on that Leon card, too. You absolutely have to get Dunebae on that Leone card. I haven't seen him since what? The Baki Splinter? Is that right? Yeah, I think so. It's been a hot minute.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I believe it's been like 18 months when we've seen him. If you're going to go to France. He's the biggest star of French MMA. Like, you have to get him. I mean, he had a recent tweet where he was holding all the glory belts. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, there is. I don't love that.
Starting point is 00:28:24 He retweeted your tweet. tweet about, or on Crown's tweet about you saying you'd want to see him versus that gene. Look at, Cedric Dumbay. This would be New York Rick's dream fight. Shout out. They retweeted it. I would love that fight. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:36 This is my dream fight, but it is a fight I wouldn't mind seeing because I think that gene, yeah. New York, Rick, Eubank Ben, too? Yes. Just a slight right there, that Jean Duneba. No, that gene Dubey above. It's my dream. Oh, that Jean Dumbay, Eubank Ben, too. Aspenol, Jones.
Starting point is 00:28:55 below the desk. No, you bank band one. That's how it has surpassed that even for me. But yes, regardless of if it's that gene, I don't I don't know, maybe they would do something like that. It has to be Cedric Dune. If you go to France, you must put Cedric Dumei on this card. He's the biggest star you've got. And quite frankly, like, it's been a minute. We need to get that momentum. It felt like he had a real momentum behind him, a real moment for the PFL. And now it feels like
Starting point is 00:29:20 he's just kind of like faded into obscurity. He's one of their biggest names. Like, you need to bring him back. ASAP. I also like the idea of getting him out of Paris into another French city. I imagine the fans will be just as crazy. And it would also be huge to put on another quality card to end the year. Like next week, I am very much looking forward to that PFL card. Usbander Magamatov, Paul Hughes at the top. Corey Anderson versus Yagshir Muradov. Always tough to... Shout out Dovlet. Shout out to Davlet. Always tough to pronounce that one. In the co-main, you got two title fights. You got Archie Colgan, J.J. Wilson. You got the return of Artim Lobov.
Starting point is 00:29:55 you got Magamemag Mata Mata v. Sergio Pettis. This is a solid card taking place on a Friday afternoon that I'm looking forward to. To be able to cap the year off with another solid card highlighted by two title fights would be massive for me to the PFL going into 2026. Things are looking in the right direction. Things are looking well placed and like even the fact that they are doing Norma Madov versus Hughes after it seemed like we were getting mixed messaging on whether that was even going to be the next fight and that was going to happen. they are making the right calls right now now it's about locking those tv rights uh make sure that you're signing future stars and then just put on the cards right put dakota on in the headline spot of a card put cedric dunei on a card get francis inganu back in the cage you're going to
Starting point is 00:30:41 start building you're going to start getting momentum it ollexander usick jake paul going um there's ways for them to kind of make inroads in becoming that the number two that i think mima kind of requires at the moment um but it's It's starting here, and they're making the right calls right now. Speaking of the C-suite, UFC, TKO, I believe, C-O-O, Mark Shapiro. Yes. Was on a Goldman Sachs' earnings call? I was on a...
Starting point is 00:31:07 Mark Shapiro is to conference calls as Ilya is to press conferences. Every time I turn around, Ilya, is that a dais? Every time I turn around, Mark Shapiro is on a call saying something. And we have a quote panel of what he had to say about UFC and San Francisco. site fees. And he mentioned, if we've got a St. Louis card going up against the Des Moines, Iowa card, shout out. If you want us back there and you've sold out and broken records in your arena, you're going to have to pay for us to come back or else we're just going to take it to another town. It's just that easy. Talked about how they essentially want to sell the 13 pay-per-view cards to
Starting point is 00:31:47 different cities. Talked about, you know, Chicago just had a card for the first time in, I believe, six or seven years. They're already asking about bringing them back because they broke the gate, the records, everything like that. Michael Jordan played here. And we, you know, we broke the gate. You know, if you actually like look into that, that was, we're 30 years later, the tickets have become just like infinitely more expensive. Of course, you were able to break the gate of something from the 90s. And then he talked about having 30 additional fight nights that can essentially be on sale to take to these different cities. You know, Saudi Arabia paying $20 million to bring a fight night there. Yeah, we, this stood out to me because it seems like Mark is doing, as you
Starting point is 00:32:28 said, an earnings call seemingly every week. And the quotes are becoming more and more like this where a lot more of this business, a lot more of this was kind of happening behind the scenes, right? Now, obviously, TCO being a publicly traded company, there are obligations in terms of doing some of these calls and things to be speaking about. But it does feel a little bit off for executives of the organization to just be like laying it out this plainly while simultaneously increasing ticket prices to the point that real fans of the sport are not able to attend them, right? Looking at how much money they can now command where cities are going to, we're going to pit St. Louis up against Iowa and whoever is the highest bidder, that's where we're going.
Starting point is 00:33:13 This idea of how much money the UFC and TKO are able to generate. And by the way, this is happening on the WWE side as well, right? they're now going to Saudi Arabia for WrestleMania. Everything has a price at this point. I think he specifically mentioned it'll be the same thing for Raws and Smackdown. Exactly. And so they can command this and more power to
Starting point is 00:33:31 them. It's great business. They should continue to do this. But the glee with which we are celebrating this idea while simultaneously pricing out our most devoted fans just feels wrong to me. I mean, it feels wrong. We saw in Des Moines when we went. It was
Starting point is 00:33:47 the only attraction in town. It was probably the only attraction in town for, you know, a couple weeks. It's not like, it is tough, honestly. Des Moines a little tough. But like everyone was there and I just don't imagine they were diehard UFC fans. They were more like, I like the UFC and they're here in town, so I'm going to go and see this. I don't get an opportunity to see this often, so I'm going to spend my money and go. So you are kind of pricing people out like that, and you're pricing cities like that out. Like, how is it Des Moines going to be able to beat out? Even like, like a St. Louis. How are they going to beat a city like that? Well, they probably will until the
Starting point is 00:34:24 next time and then they know that the price is going to go up and a bigger city's going to have it. And we see it when we get into London's and New York's where it's like fans that are watchers of this show and just regular fans that we interact with who are like, I can't afford to go to these cards. Like I absolutely cannot afford to, I have lots of people who are like regular fans who write me all the time. And when the Chicago card came rolling around, they're like, I can't go. We've been dying. We've been waiting so long for this card to come back to Chicago. We've been calling every week and everybody's been writing, I literally can't afford to go to the Chicago car. Bro, when I went to UFC Atlanta, purchased tickets for that, nosebleeds,
Starting point is 00:35:05 $220 apiece. I did like the joke where it's like, come on, ref, and it's like the zoom out, and everyone's just like, don't you have a job? Like, you're sitting up there with God. And it's like, these tickets were $220 a piece. And I like had friends from Atlanta that I wanted to go with me. And, like, I couldn't be like, yo, let's get a lower bowl for 400. And, like, I had a hard enough time. I had so many friends drop out because the tickets were so expensive. They were like, bro, I'm not paying that to go to a UFC event. And the Atlantic card, like, kind of sucked ass.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And, like, my two friends that did go with me that aren't really UFC fans were like, you probably wouldn't do that again. Going to skip out on that one. And then, like, here in our city, Madison Square Garden, U.S. 322, cheapest ticket to be sitting up in the bleeders right now, where you've got to get the binoculars out there where it's just like, Who's that walking right now? You can hear birds.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah, you can hear birds, bro. You are sitting with the Almighty. James Tehita, the Almighty. $452. Yeah. $452. It is crazy. Now, again, this is not an indictment on the UFC's business because they are filling
Starting point is 00:36:07 these stadiums and these arenas and they can continue to do it. Also, tickets across everything, sports, events, events, concerts are just inflating at a rate that's, like, hard to keep up with. Yeah, and there's probably. with the ticket sellers and the scalpers and other people as well that fold into this. But I do just wonder how long the UFC can continue to kind of flaunt their record earnings that are on the back of real fans of this sport kind of getting priced out. It does feel like there will be a moment where that comes to a head where you can get away
Starting point is 00:36:39 with this now, but like next time you come back, does anybody show up after those people already paid for that ticket the first time? it'll be interesting to see i don't imagine that that will have kind of any like real reckoning on this for a while but it is a it is a developing trend that i'm continuing to notice where ufc is out there out front talking about how great they're doing and tko in general right wbby is smashing ufc smashing we're making all this money and then every time i'm hearing messages from real fans who are like i can't get into this building i saw a tweet a guy was tweeting at dustin porier like diehard dustin porier fan essentially asking for a birthday shout out from him And he was like, man, I'm born and raised in Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'm a diehard fan, everything like that. Me and my wife went to UFC 318 in New Orleans, comma, we're still paying off the tickets, and then continued, like, but it was so worth it. I would have done it 10 times over, yada, yada, yada. And it's just like, that was two and a half months ago. And, like, we got the Klarna out just to get UFC tickets. Like, it is actually tough.
Starting point is 00:37:39 It is tough, man. It's tough. Also, like, another thing that, like, I do wonder. is, like, is there a chance where, like, you just get into this repetition of cities where it's just like, oh, you go to your, you go to Sydney and you go to Perth and then you go to Chicago and then you go to Macau and then you go to London and then you go to Paris and these are the same cities that just cycle through every year and like these Des Moines and like you're never going to get a Nova Scotia again or like a Prague or anything like super random out of nowhere. Like do you get into this sort of cycle of places willing to pay for it? We already see that with some, right? Like the regular New York. we had like four years in a row where we got the Salt Lake City card and people are like why are we going back to Salt Lake City
Starting point is 00:38:19 Utah ponied up for that the same way New York the same way Saudi there are certain locations that are already locked in in that capacity I don't imagine we'll go like on a schedule
Starting point is 00:38:31 that becomes repetitive in that way because I don't know how many times the locations can afford to pay these site fees each time right it's a one time thing where all of a sudden to boost the economy you have tons of people either coming into town or from the town spending a lot of money at these
Starting point is 00:38:46 events and things like that. But the second visit might not be so hot. And then the third visit might not even be hotter than that. So you start to see diminishing returns on this. I think much more likely you see some of these like, we're in a new location and then you don't see that for a while. We're in a new location and you don't see that for a while. And you kind of cycle through those. But it'll be interesting to see UFC and WWE have reached a point where they can command that if you don't pay us, we're not coming. And it's a good place to be. because in addition to that, the UFC can just be like, man, we're in Vegas then. If we're not on the road, we can just be in Vegas and it won't cost us a thing to produce and to travel.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And so either go on the road and get paid or you stay home. It's a great business proposition for the UFC, but I do wonder what the long-term consequences of this are going to be. Yeah, I mean, I always think back to the rock when WW was making their raw debut and he came out and he was just like, you guys are part of a gate-breaking, record-breaking attendance here in L.A. And it was just like, and everyone was like, yeah, and like I was sitting on my couch. I was like, these people are cheering because they paid the most money for tickets. And then those carnivalves hit and they're like, oh, fuck. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It's not like there's more seats available than there was last time. They're just charging more for the tickets. So, yeah, we'll see as the UFC schedule continues to just truck on and roll on, and they continue to have these places to go to. Some more news and notes. Alex Pereira, a video dropped, I believe, from his YouTube channel of him leaving the UFC PI, and he was pretty fired up about this interaction with Magamette Ancalaev.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Obviously, in Portuguese, he says, something funny happened just now when I was leaving the PI. I saw Anka Lai's coach there. I stayed to myself. I didn't see Anka Laiv. And the funny thing is, when I left the P.I., when I got to the car, someone from my team was still inside me, heard the girl from the P.I. say to Uncle Ive, he can come now. He's already left.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Like, damn, he was hiding? They hid the guy in a little room, man. This guy thinks I'm going to run into him and start fighting. Do I look stupid, bro? So, a interaction that wasn't actually an interaction between Alex Pereira and Magamette, who will rematch from their March fight next week at UFC 320. And then Uncleayev took to Twitter in response to it. He said, this clown who I'm fighting said I'm hiding from him.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm giving him a rematch. And he should be very grateful. I whipped them for five rounds. And I did everything I wanted to him during the fight. Let's focus on fighting and not trash talking. This guy has been knocked out three times in his career. I've never even been knocked down. This time, I will give him his fourth knockout.
Starting point is 00:41:32 end of the story from Muhammad big onk honk alive what do we make of the energies the tweet views are crazy 8.8 this guy is the champion
Starting point is 00:41:43 of the UFC not for nothing I think there's a real understanding that like nobody believes it's him so it's like what's the point of following what do we think of the different energies
Starting point is 00:41:54 like I'll say this I was a little bit surprised to see how fired up Alex seemed to be about it like we don't see him very animated often and his entertainment, his delight at the idea that Ank was hiding for him seemed like the most we've seen from him in a bit.
Starting point is 00:42:10 It's also seemed like there's some real animosity in interviews that he's done. It feels like there's a dislike for Magamat Ancalaev, and it feels like he is wholly determined to get this belt back. There's also a real difference in energy from me from the Ancolaev who is being hidden away at the U.S. CPI and the one on Twitter that's like, I'm going to knock you out and kill you. this Alex Pereira thing. It's like, you know, a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Like, maybe we match the energy levels. That should be serious. Do we think they stuffed Angolive in a closet to be like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, he's coming. He's coming. I don't think that happened, but I do think the UFC does their best to be like, yo, he's about to walk through here.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Like, let's go to a different place. Like, I don't think, let it be stated for the record and very clear. I do not think Maga Manga met on Kalive is, like, scared to see Alex. I know that he is not scared to see Alex. It was much more like we're saying where it's just like, you want to keep opponents away. from each other. You never know how this goes. There have been interactions at the PI that were not, you know, peaceful. And so you don't want to have those situations replicated, especially on the verge of this title fight, this rematch coming to fruition. And so I think it was certainly that. I think Alex is smart to turn it into something a little bit more to be like, yo, you were hiding from me. Like I think this is smart promotion. I think it will build. I liked even the tweets from whoever is running big onks account back to Alex. I think it helps the promotion as well. So I'm into this, but I am like, I'm liking what I'm seeing from this version of Alex Pereira as opposed to the first fight.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Like there's a little more animosity and a little more energy and I think we'll see a better version of him. So I'm interested. I feel like this fight is kind of getting swept under the rug a little bit. I feel like Maraub and Corey is getting talked about way more. And I feel like Alex Breyer is kind of getting dismissed a little bit. Alex put in a bad performance, man. And the hype around Alex was at an all-time high. And then he delivered that performance which took it down to a low.
Starting point is 00:43:59 and people are just not excited about Magamatta and Kalive in general as the champion of the division. So it's those two things combined that I think has suppressed this. If one or the other comes out with a dominant performance, I think it will really take off back again. Dude, I can't wait for it. I mean, next week is an Alex Pereira fight week. It's a Marad de Valishvili fight week against Corey Sandhagan,
Starting point is 00:44:22 which is a sick matchup. It's a Yuri Prahajka fight week. It's a Paul Hughes, the Magamato fight week. It's a Mike Perry. It's a Mike Perry BKFC fight week. Frank's heavy on the James Sto. His fingers on the James Tihuna button. It's Australia Fight Week.
Starting point is 00:44:38 There you go. There you got to be. There's a lot of big names fighting this next week. I cannot wait. Yerry above all. Can't wait for years. You're your number one. Yere is my number one.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Not Abis Mugamato. Abis Magamato v. Joe Pfeir? The G.C. Bowl? The G.C. Bowl? That's not your number one? It's going to be great. A quick little round. the horn here. Gable Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Steveson. That was a slip of the tongue there. I added the end. Gable Stevenson is back fighting, not at LFA, but at DBX. He will be taking on Swanson. Gable versus Swanson. It feels like a one name like WWE wrestler. Gable v. Swanson. What is this guy's first name? What is his record? We do not know. Imagine his first name is Swanson, I mean, I have to look this up. Oh, yeah, maybe it is, maybe it is his first name.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I don't know. But yeah, Gable's back, DBX. I guess just get the rounds in. John Jones says he's going to be champ one day. I guess he's just got to get some fights in before. Billy? Huh? Billy Swanson?
Starting point is 00:45:43 Oh, is that what it is? That's what it says on the lower third. Billy Swanson. Hey, shout out of shit. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, well, it cannot confirm. Oh, you just filled that in. No, I saw a graphic, and I said, oh, Billy Swanson, good to know.
Starting point is 00:45:56 What was wrong of William Swanson? That hits a little harder, right? You think they're part of the Swanson family dinner fame? Shout out to Big Will the Bill Swanson, taking on Gable Stevenson at DBX-4. We created lore around this man already. It's coming. October 30th.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Is that a Thursday? I think it is. That would be correct. Halloween a Friday this year. Shout out. Can't wait for that. How did you know that on the proximity to Halloween? How did you know that out to top of your eye?
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah, because Halloween is on a Friday. Kai Asakura will be moving up to Bantam weight after going 0 and 2 of flyweight in the UFC I like that move It makes a lot of sense It doesn't seem to be working out Lost badly to Pantosia Got the test against Tim Elliott
Starting point is 00:46:40 Didn't work out Let's go up to 135 He'll be fine sizewise in the division Obviously he was quite big for flyweight And I think there's a lot of interesting matchups for him there We need to work on the grappling And I think it'll be better for him him at Bantamweight. So I like it. David O'Nama versus Steve Garcia was announced as the main
Starting point is 00:46:59 event of UFC Apex 110. Shout to Steve Garcia for getting a main event. I'll be glued to that one. I am leader of the Steve Garcia fan club. So good to see him get his flowers there. And then Dana White looked like he was going to have some breaking news. And then it looked like he jumped the gun, like breakfast, breakfast cigar, I have a feeling today is going to be an incredible day. I love the all caps day instead of the all caps, like incredible. That's neither here nor there, but it looked like he was having the breakfast cigar and then quickly redacted that statement and said, I jumped the gun. Today is just going to be a regular day. Yeah, a little bit of a pump fake there from Dana. With the winky face emoji, a little zesty emoji there from Dana White.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I just want to return to something real quick. The Steve Garcia, Damon, Oh, yeah. It seemed like there was a second there, just like one minute in time where we were going to get Waldo Cortez Acosta versus Ante Delia in the main event. Like it seemed like that was like getting pushed there. And then obviously Garcia and. No, that's my card, man. I hope that's co-main event.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And the Ante Delia Steve Garcia Parley will feed families. We'll feed generations. And when it inevitably loses. Shout out Salca Boy, split decision. Oh, yeah. Salsa Boy. the judges score it 29, 28, Waldo Cortez-A-Costa.
Starting point is 00:48:22 3027, Ante Delia. And you're winner-wise, split decision. 29, 28, Waldo Cortez-A-Costa. God damn it! That's how it'll be on my couch. So, yeah, who knows what Dana White was referring to? Could it have been? Connor McGregor fighting at the White House?
Starting point is 00:48:41 McGregor got active on Twitter. we even got like paradigm like IGing stuff he says a hundred million to fight at the white house along with a hundred US golden visas which is like these Trump cards that have come out that have a million dollars in monetary value so 200 million dollars total for McGregor for the visas will be for himself family and friends he looks very forward to entertaining the fighting world once again a pleasure he never takes for granted I believe he had one other one other tweet about this yeah there it is the trump gold card is here unlock life in america i swear to god this looks like an apple like you could just exchange that
Starting point is 00:49:25 with like iPhone air is here and like it would look like the exact same thing okay let's talk about the the circumstances that he's laid out let's let's let's talk about his his stipulations here 100 million dollars yep what do you what is your immediate reaction to connor mcgregor demanding $100 million for a White House fight. I don't know. Like, if you're doing the card at the White House, you might as well empty the clip, no? To me, I know.
Starting point is 00:49:50 If you're giving John Jones 30 million, you can give Connor McGregor at least 50. Well, I know there's going to be some people who are like, yeah, no. But ultimately, like that feels like a discount to me. Like, White House card? $100 million. Connor McGregor is going to generate a lot more than $100 million of attention
Starting point is 00:50:07 and actual profits. for this card. And 100, well, we'll talk about that part in a second. But in terms of what visibility he would bring to Paramount and assuming CBS, right? We're going to assume that this card is on the big network channel. $100 million is a discount for what Connor McGregor is going to be able to bring to that card. So I mean, I don't know if he gets it ultimately because I don't think the UFC is in the business of like empowering Connor McGregor to that degree, especially when he has mentioned before having two fights and
Starting point is 00:50:39 And this one would be one, and then there would be one more after that. I don't know if you can pay him $100 million. But as far as, like, should they? Absolutely. Connor McGregor would be worth every dime from a business perspective if you're able to make that happen. Then there's the second part of this, which is the hundred gold visas from Donald Trump's administration. Interesting, he wants the gold not the pending platinum. Yeah, I don't know much about the platinum one.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Can I see that graphic again? I haven't read what the platinum one does. we only have the gold. No, no. Oh, yeah, there it is. Oh, that is small. Sign up now. Yeah, here we go. Secure your place on the waiting list for the Trump Platinum card for a processing fee and after DHS vetting. A $5 million contribution, you will have the ability to spend up to 270 days in the United States without being subject to U.S. taxes on non-U.S. income. Yes, this one's the one for foreigners who are going to come and be able to exist tax-free from business perspective.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It seems like Connor McGregor is much more interested in the standard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For those that are unaware, the administration just introduced the idea that if you pay a million dollars and are vetted and determined like a benefit to the country, you get your visa. It's a shortcut in terms of what the actual process looks like to getting a visa if you have the funds to be able to do it. So Connor McGregor wanting to populate the U.S. with 100 people and get paid $100 million. as I said before though like $200 million all in like it's not actually like it's worth it for it's not actually $200 million dollars it's a hundred million and then these things that they've placed the million dollar monetary value on like oh you're not going to sell them anyway it's it's like
Starting point is 00:52:22 gift cards wait what do you mean they're not going to sell them like like it's not like they are going to run out of these visas by giving a hundred to Connor McGregor yes but I imagine that they're going to collect some fees on that like you can't just be handing out what costs a million dollars for free. And if Connor McGregor, you can't. Visas? Nah, no, no. There's, there's, there's, there's, there's procedure here. There has to be some kind of exchange. I mean, he's right up there with DT-47. I mean, it's just a couple bills, sign them off and he's in.
Starting point is 00:52:49 It's going to be interesting to see what ultimately the, like, all of this, I think, is, is academic at this point, and there's almost like no point in speculating. We, we may or may not know ultimately what Connor McGregor gets paid for this. I'm interested to see what the, the negotiations look like for Connor McGregor here, because now that Dana White is saying like we want Connor McGregor and Connor McGregor is like I'm ready to fight at the White House it has almost got to the point
Starting point is 00:53:14 that now it's like promising Connor McGregor and if he's like that's great I'm ready now pay me $100 million and give me 100 of those visas it starts to become a little bit harder to swallow And I mean he's tweeting the champ champ returns just over eight months until UFC White House I look forward to seeing my body shape up
Starting point is 00:53:29 my shot selection refining my masterpiece to be painted UFC White House hashtag America 250 and it's three videos of him hitting pads like he he's going on a tweet storm but it seems like he's he's serious about this we've seen it in the past but i mean this is this is the card to get him off the couch no problem me yeah and i and i do imagine if you're the ufc you could justify this price tag by just being like if somebody ever comes to you and is like especially if connor comes back to you and is like a hundred million dollars that's my price now or hey i just saw you paid connor mcgregor a hundred
Starting point is 00:54:00 million dollars that's what i want got bad news for you buddy yeah it's the fucking white house card and it was Connor McGregor. Sorry. Literally just right there. Got bad news for you. A, we fought at the White House. Not doing that now. This is the Demobile Arena. B, that was Connor McGregor. You're not him. Yeah. Kick rock. 10.10. Or you are him? And it's not the White House card. Interesting to see how this will develop. We'll see ultimately, I imagine that there will be a way to do business. I imagine that there will be a way to come together. I don't know if it's 100 million, but as I said, if it is 100 million, I do think he's worth that from a business perspective. A busy week
Starting point is 00:54:33 in combat sports. Got all caught up the news and the notes and everything. Now we're going to look ahead to UFC Perth. Wait, before we do that, though. Oh, good. We had one more tweet from Connor McGregor. Who related to the White House, but related to this upcoming BKFC event. Connor McGregor saying, Mike Perry is back to
Starting point is 00:54:50 bare knuckle, October 4th, New Jersey, on a trial basis only. So, not Mike Perry is not back. He has only temporarily reinstated. If he underperforms, I sack him again live in front of 17,000 fans, live on DeZone. Yeah, I don't doubt that he will. I imagine going into the ring if Mike Perry loses and just throw him out.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And immediately fire him. The Connor McGregor, like Vince McMahon and Mike Perry a stone cold Steve Austin storyline, I love it. And I hope they're cool behind the scenes about it. Because if not, if I'm Mike Perry, I'm like, bro, you step in this bare-knuckle ring, man, and you fight. Like, see if you're built for it. Well, I mean, look, don't get, like, make no mistake. Mike Perry would love nothing more than Connor McGregor to step up at the bare knuckle ring and fight him. But Connor McGregor can until, that was also one of his other tweets.
Starting point is 00:55:41 We don't have that one. But he also said, I will fight bare knuckle. I mean, he tweeted like 17 times over the course of 90 minutes. It's hard to keep up with everything he said. He has said that many times, I believe him, right? Once this UFC contract, I think, is up. I do believe that he will find a way to compete for bare knuckle. He is very passionate about it in a way that he doesn't seem to be about anything.
Starting point is 00:55:59 MMA related other than the White House card, right? It's like the White House card he's very passionate about, and then BKFC. And so I love this storyline. I do hope that Mike Perry is in on it, but if he's not, it almost makes it better. And I hope I do not hope Mike Perry gets fired, obviously, because I think he's very valuable to the promotion. But I do hope that Connor McGregor continues to do this kind of like storyline where it's like he's going to fire Mike Perry. He's only back temporarily. Yeah, next week he's going to be incredible.
Starting point is 00:56:25 If it wasn't for UFC 320, we would be in Iraq, hell yeah. watching it. BKFC puts on an incredible show. If you're around there, I highly recommend going affordable tickets as well. That is the news and notes for the week. We will be right back after this quick break to breakdown. UFC Perth. Don't go anywhere. All right. Welcome back to UFC returns to Perth this weekend. Just a lot of fights on the card. I believe we're sitting at 14 right now. And they have a Kiwi or an Aussie in every single fight but won the curtain jerker but according to seven news australia um they have only sold about half the available seats so they've had to knock down the prices on this one um and i can't can't really
Starting point is 00:57:10 blame the fans in perth rayus olberg and loma look boon me are the three ranked fighters on the card and then you talked about it earlier when we were talking about the ticket sales the uh you know like you you have the first year and it's a record breaking and gait and everything the second year you know record breaking you still break the gate third year you don't quite do it fourth year they just end up not coming like with with salt lake city uh last time in perth ufc 305 they got a paper view uh easy ddp hooker gamrott kkf er sec time before that UFC 284 vulca islam jdm randy brown and uh yeah yermit for the uh interim featherweight title at that point so it's just like this is not quite that now you're getting dominic rays versus carlos olber
Starting point is 00:57:55 there's no Volk, there's no Whittaker, there's no JDM, there's no Ty, there's no Kai Kera, there's no Dan Hooker, there's no Izzy, there's none of these like massive stars from this Oceana region. And like beyond the main event, it like, I don't blame them for not wanting to pony up for this one. Yeah, I mean, you laid it out perfectly when you were going through the list of names from the last cards. It's all those names that you just re-mentioned and saying they're not on this card. Yeah, like where are those guys? Like, certainly that's the thing that's going to get the fans, you know, to attend these events. At the same time, I imagine they got a good site fee.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I imagine they got paid pretty well to do it. And now maybe this is one where you like, don't circle back unless you do have one of those. I was going to say, now Perth has got to be like, damn, bro. We had these two cards and then we paid this exorbitant site fee and this is what happened for us. It will, I think it will end up being good business for everybody involved. But yes, like we are starting to see where if you don't deliver on. the cards and you're just going to these territories for the site fees, the fans
Starting point is 00:58:56 are going to express their opinion on it. Shout out to the rack arena. I love the blue. And it's a 7 p.m. start over here. It's like a pay-per-view card. 10 p.m. main card kickoff. I'm ready. Shout out. Main event, Carlos Alberg, taking on Dominic Reyes, Ollberg coming off a win
Starting point is 00:59:11 over Jan Blaovich back in March. And right now he's three. He's kind of fighting down to Reyes' seven. And you have to think that, like, whoever comes out, victorious, in this, at most, their one win away from a title shot. Imagine that. Dom Reyes,
Starting point is 00:59:27 heading into 2026 being one win away from a title shot if he's able to get it done here. Yeah, it's a, it's a rejuvenation, it's a mental reset that I've really liked to see from the Dominic Reyes side of things because after the John Jones loss, which I know he and many
Starting point is 00:59:44 others consider a win, and rightfully so, I think that was a razor close fight and you can make a great argument that Dominic Reyes won that fight. It was extremely tough sledding to the point that people like had right to be concerned and he was pressing so hard. He wanted it so bad. It was nice to see him get that monkey off his back and now be able to settle into this world where it's like he's a dangerous guy again. He is a guy that you probably don't want to see opposite you because of the physicality because of what he's
Starting point is 01:00:11 able to bring to the table. I'm really happy to see it. I think a lot of MMA fans are really happy to see this like rejuvenation from Dominic Reyes. It reminds me a bit of what we've been seeing with Alexander Hernandez, who's a new, like, fan favorite on the show and a fan and one of Ariel's favorites to talk to where the obstacles were kind of mental, right? Like he, there was never a point where all of a sudden Dominic Reyes wasn't physically able to do anything we had seen him do previously. It was that pressing. It was that snatching of victory, uh, defeat from the jaws of victory, as Alexander Hernandez put it so poetically. It is nice to see the, the course write it on this. And then on the other side, in Carlos Oberg, like, he's a guy who's just
Starting point is 01:00:49 slowly just been racking him up. Like, I was a big doubter early in his run. I just didn't think, like, I just didn't think, I just never thought like he was that impressive and able to put it together. Now it is looking like he is able to, right? When you are able to knock off guys like Jan Blakovich, then you are entering a territory where you cannot be denied as a top title contender, especially in a division that like really kind of doesn't have that many contenders or have been knocked off by Alex Pereira. I'm very interested to see who wins this one. Ultimately, though, I don't think the UFC can go wrong here either way, right?
Starting point is 01:01:25 If Carlos Oberg wins, you've got a great story in a guy who from city kickboxing was able to rise up the ranks. Has an incredible look, obviously, right? He's somebody who's very handsome, and I think we'll draw attention that way. And then in Dominic Reyes, you've got a crazy redemption story. You've got a guy who many people would say beat John Jones, who falls off the cliff completely, and then is able to build himself back up into a title contender. I think it's a win-win situation. I think both these guys are fantastic.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And then on the fight itself, I'm interested to see how the styles play. I ultimately think we'll probably get a finish in this one. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to imagine we don't with the power punching of both these dudes. And also, like, we saw Dominic Reyes get knocked out three times. Like, it's not like he is immune to that. And Carlos Holberg packs a punch. Carlos Solberg also got finished in his one loss to Kennedy. And Dominic Grace has been blowing through people lately.
Starting point is 01:02:15 with his power so I wouldn't be surprised I'm with you in the fact that we probably get a finish especially because it's five rounds instead of the three but yeah I mean like whoever comes out winning this we obviously have to see what happens next week with Yeri with Roundtree
Starting point is 01:02:31 with Ancolaev and Pereira but like man if it's Ancolaev like Yiri would be like pretty much the only one in front of these dudes if Alex regains the title I think the winner of this fight it will be in a very good position to get the next shot.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Yeah, honestly, because it likely wouldn't run a trilogy with Anc Goliath. I just can't imagine it just because of the fan-friendliness when it comes to him. And then Yiri's already gotten two cracks at it. And Khalil. And Khalil's already gotten a shot. Hill obviously had a shot and he's on a bad losing streak. Yeah, I mean, I could see it being Olberg or Reyes next. If Pereira is able to get the best.
Starting point is 01:03:11 If they're not next, they're one away because they would be a fresh name and a fresh matchup. So I think whoever wins this is in great position for a title opportunity. You could even do like a Reyes-Yeary rematch. Totally. One of the craziest knockouts you'll ever see, I would be totally interested in that fight. Yeah, it's fascinating the stakes that are at hand with this. And I just can't imagine. It's Tony Brooks' own, the redemption story for one Dominic Reyes.
Starting point is 01:03:37 When it comes to the fight itself, I mean, it's light heavyweight. It's two power punters. Anything can happen. if I had to choose a side, I'm going with Olberg, just because the speed, the volume that he puts up. If it does go five rounds, I favor him to get the decision. Plus, like, I know we're on a three-fight win streak, but, like, I'm still not,
Starting point is 01:03:58 I don't have 100% faith in Dominic Race's chin against the guy that hits his hard as Carlos Olberg. I imagine it'll just be a striking affair. And I just think over the course of the 25, Ulberg's going to catch him at some point. It's funny you say that because, like, I was just talking about how I've kind of been converted to believing in Carlos Oberg
Starting point is 01:04:15 but I feel like this is dogger pass for me like I like that I'm not really that like I'm convinced that he's a top contender but man like Dominic Reyes the pressure that he brings and and the power that he packs I don't think I can rely on Carlos Oberg to the tune of minus 265
Starting point is 01:04:35 in there with a guy who's as capable of finishing fights and in many's eyes and I continue to repeat it capable of beating John Jones I'm believing that it's dogger pass here and maybe you put a little bit on Reyes. We just saw this exact same storyline with Ming Yang Zhang against Johnny Walker,
Starting point is 01:04:55 put it in his home country. You build him up to be like, all right, this is the moment where he cracks in and then he falls short and he gets it done against a veteran that fans have grown to appreciate. It would be almost a mirrored storyline if Dominic Reyes gets it done.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And it's one we've seen in the past, right? Sometimes it's just like, Now, the Jan win makes me like comfortable, right? The Jan win makes me go like, okay, Carlos is real. He's of this level. Carlos is at this level. But man, minus 265 against a guy on a role like Reyes has been, who has been in there with the cream of the crop to the literal goat,
Starting point is 01:05:29 the actual goat, and some believe beat him. It feels like it's like a bridge too far for me to believe in him that much at that number. But if you give me a coin flip, I probably lean over. Because as you said, right, like the technicality, the cleanness of his striking, his ability to knock somebody out in Reyes, who we have seen knocked out much more frequently. I believe in that, right? I believe in that. But you're giving me pretty decent dog odds. I do feel like I lean ever so slightly toward the Reyes side of the equation. It's going to be interesting to watch, man. It'll be like 1 a.m. It's going to be a fun fight. I'm into this fight big time. Oh, I'm almost positive that this is going to end up being a fun fight. And I feel confident that we see a finish in this. I think it's going to be a great striking battle.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Let's go to the co-main event. Jimmy Kruh taking on Yvonne Erslan. Jimmy Kruh back just like two months after fighting at UFC 318, ended his draw, loss, loss, loss, streak. Like, he was on like one of the weirdest runs we've seen finally back in the wind column. against prokneau. Erslan, 0 and 2 in the UFC after a decent run in KSW.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I don't know. I don't know what to make of Erslan in the UFC and like Crout is just like this odd fighter that he's just like, I just don't know what I'm going to get with him every time he comes out. You have to think that Jimmy Crout's experience at this level is going to pay dividends here, right?
Starting point is 01:06:56 Like I've not been impressed by Erslan and don't get me wrong. Like I know Jimmy Crude up and down, right? As you said, like there's this kind of like crazy, weird streak of fights, but it was good to see him get on track in the last one. I think it'll be a Jimmy Crute showcase, but I've also been, I've also thought that before.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I'm going Ursula, back against the wall. Yeah. Five four and two in the UFC. I'm, uh, for, for crew, yes? Yeah. It's just crazy to see five four and two. Yeah. No, I think Jimmy Crute will get it done here. but I am open to being proven wrong.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Jack Jenkins taking on Roman Tavares, Jack Jenkins. Had a nice start in the UFC, been on a bit of a win-loss streak, had the bad arm injury a few fights ago. Roman Tavaris last time out against Davy Grant. Lost, but like an okay display and a loss, and I believe his UFC debut.
Starting point is 01:07:53 No, because he had the Surrey City, ended up fighting him twice, fought him on Contender Series and then the UFC as well. The boxing of Tavares is nice, but I like the leg kicks of Jack Jenkins. Don't know if we should be trusting Jack Jenkins at a price tag of minus almost 300. But there's not many spots to pick and choose. Like, this is a tough card from a betting perspective. I'll go with the hometown guy, Jack Jenkins, to get it done.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I'm with you, but again, like you said, like it's hard to lay money on Jack Jenkins at that price. Like, it's hard to feel as confident as you'd want to be. But I do believe stylistically, like this favors Jack Jenkins. big time. Like, in a best case scenario, like, you should be able to cruise here. Yeah, like, they were obviously intentional with the way that they built this card. They did it with a ton of guys from Australia and New Zealand, like Carlos Olberg from New Zealand in the main event, Jimmy Crout, Australia, Jack Jenkins, Australia, Jake Matthews, Australia. Like, you have, you have a lot of Australians and New Zealanders on here, but like not a ton from like a name
Starting point is 01:08:53 value perspective that you're going to get super hyped about. Yeah. And I, and I, That said, the vibe in the arena for the local guys is going to be insane. We see this on the Canadian card sometimes, right? Where it's like, okay, it's not GSP in here, but like when Jasmine fights, when Mike Malat fights, when some of the other guys, when even MAB fights, like the crowd is going to get into it, I think we'll see a similar thing here, especially if the Australian or the Pacific Island fighters, it starts to like build, they're on a streak and the momentum starts going like it did kind of with the Mexican fighters during the North Day card.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Mexican and the French fighters both had a ton of success. This will kind of feel, like that arena will start rocking and you'll feel that. So I think it can really be a good vibe and that. They need to get it done though. They need to like maintain position here. Jake Matthews, biggest favorite on the card, taking on Neil Magni. At one point was as big as a minus 700 favorite against the vet of all vets and Neil Magne. Magny back after like six weeks got a win over a,
Starting point is 01:09:57 Elizi Delisky de Santos. Now he flies across the world to take on Jake Matthews. Jack Matthews on a three-fight win streak. Honestly, like, he's been on a decent run. Four of his last five. Only loss was to Michael Morales, who is getting close to being in the title conversation. Yeah, and this story kind of mirrors what I was talking about in terms of the mental, right? Like, he's a guy who has always had all the tools. He's one of like Uber prospects that has been around forever. It's startling to look down and see how many UFC fights Jake Matthews actually has. I never forget the UFC 275 when he fought Andre Fialho, like the boxing. I thought he was the second coming of Muhammad Ali. What year do you think Jake Matthews made his UFC debut? All right. So, like, I've been through this stat. I want to say it's like 2018. 2014.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Jesus Christ. Yeah, Jake Matthews. 22 UFC fights. Yeah. And he's 31 years old. So, like, Jake Matthews has been a guy that, like, we've been. waiting for him to pop. And much like I was talking about like an Alexander Hernandez, even a Dominic Ray is like, it feels like the things are all clicking properly for Jake. And
Starting point is 01:11:08 we see it in the performances here. I don't know if, and the story of this fight card, especially from me from a betting perspective, if I, like I keep saying, like, I don't know if I'm willing to pay that price, but I do believe that Jake Matthews is now at the point in his career and the way he's been fighting and how he's been approaching the game, that he should be able to beat Neil Magny, and pretty soundly too. All due respect to Neil Magne, who, like, the Rob Fons of the world, finds a way to kind of, like, upset the apple cart and be this underdog that, like, ruins the plans of people. I do think Jake Matthews is a significantly better fighter at this point in their careers. Just looking at Neil Magne's resume is just a ridiculous practice.
Starting point is 01:11:45 His last fight, dub over Elizzie Zaleski. Carlos Prochis, Michael Morales, Mike Malott, Ian Machado Gary, Phil Roe, Gilbert Burns, Daniel Rodriguez, Shavkat, Rockmanon. Max Griffin, like it's just like it's so random Jeff Neal, Michael Keyes, a Robbie Lawler.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Like he's just going in there against anyone. I feel like they just send him a fight and he's like, yep, I'll sign it.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Yeah, and he'll be a huge underdog and somehow find a way to pull off like 75% of them. The winningest fighter in U.S. Walter Wade history.
Starting point is 01:12:13 It's ridiculous. Neil Magny is, during that run, beat Robbie Lawler, beat Jeff Neal, beat Max Griffin, beat D-Rod, Phil Roe,
Starting point is 01:12:20 Mike Malad. Like, he has wins over guys and like, don't forget he had that, I believe it was 2014. He went five or six and oh. I think it was five and oh, yeah. Five and oh and then started off 2015, two and oh. From May 10th, 2014, no, February 1st, 2014, all the way to May of 2015, he went seven and oh. Yeah, crazy. No, Neil Magny is one of those guys who's going to be like the trivia question one day where it's like, Who's the most winning Wilterweight all time? Who's got the most Wilterweight wins and nobody will ever say Neil Magny?
Starting point is 01:12:51 He's had an incredible career. I do believe he's capable of an upset. here. I do believe that is the Neil Magni way. He is definitely capable. But I'm believing in this new version of Jacob Matthews that we're seeing, and I think he should be able to get it done. All right, this might be the fight. I'm looking forward to most, the composa people's main event. Louis Sutherland taking on Justin Taffa, the Vanilla Gorilla, making his UFC debut, the Scottishman. He's fought in PFL and Bellator. He is one and two in those organizations, but that's okay because he posted this great promo
Starting point is 01:13:24 to highlight him getting the call to join the UFC. Must be Australian. Tastes like piss. O'ie, get me a proper beer. Hello? Who's this? Dana?
Starting point is 01:13:47 Dana who? All right, Sunshine. Calm down. Who you got for me? Justin Taffer Australia I'm in I'm in
Starting point is 01:13:59 I'm in nice hat there from but like just look at this man we have a picture of him flexed up like he's he's like I was confused oh my god the traps are I was gonna say I was like is there like is there someone behind him or are those his actual traps like it's it's ridiculous the physique on this guy
Starting point is 01:14:33 he's absolutely giant seems to have a bit of a personality built to have the look of a heavyweight but then that's the concern he is a heavyweight mixed martial artist so it's just like can the debut match the look can the debut match the personality for one Louis Sutherland I don't know He's in a coin flip with Justin Taffa
Starting point is 01:14:54 Well yeah I mean isn't every Justin Taffa fight a coin flip because he's going to stand In the middle and throw hands with you We talk about like oh yeah there's no Vogue There's no these people on the card The Taffa brothers are just guaranteed Yes Junior was on it and then he had
Starting point is 01:15:08 Unfortunately there was an injury That's the guarantee The Taffa's are on every Australian card Yeah because why not Like you can throw them a little bit of bread And they will fight no matter what against who Yeah I mean this is a an opportunity for Louis to show what he's worked.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Like, ultimately, as I said, you know what you're getting from Justin Taffa, right? Justin Tava is going to stand there, plant his feet, and throw the heaviest hands that you've ever seen coming at you in your life. Can you withstand that? Is going to be the question. Do you have a game plan that involves avoiding that? That's going to be the question. If Louis does, I think he's going to look good in this fight.
Starting point is 01:15:40 If he does not, he's going to sleep. That's nearly a guarantee. Yeah, I think, if I'm not mistaken, Justin Taffa, all of his wins just come by first-round knockout. Unsurprising. It's hammered. Junior. Yeah, no, it's him. It's him. Five wins in the first round two in the second round. All of them by chaos. I'm going to give you a spoiler. All the people who lost to Justin Taffa like that stood and traded with Justin Taffa and got knocked the fuck out. Yeah, so we'll see, man. I can't trust heavyweights. I definitely can't trust debuting heavyweights. So we'll see what happens. If he has a mixed martial arts game, he will be able to find success. Someone in the chat, the Calibrator says, good thing traps, don't win fights. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Yeah, no shit. Well, yeah, I mean, you look at the Tafel brothers and you look at this guy, like, it's a little bit different in terms of the physique. But throwing them hands, those boys are pretty good at it. Either way, I'm excited to see it because if he does win, he comes in and he gets a knock out. Oh, it'd be great. Love it. I'm sure he can heal off on the crowd just based on that promo. He's talking about the Australian bear being, beer being piss.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Also, it's going to be great. Scottish. Goodbye, Paul Craig. Yeah. New Scottish star. Louis Sutherland. It went from Jojo Calderwood to Paul. Now we pass the torch to Louis Sutherland.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Do we ever feel like Joanne Calderwood should have done a hyphenated last name and become Joanne Calder Woodwood? Woodwood? Shout out. To finish off the main card, start it on the night of the fights. Tom Nolan versus Charlie Campbell. Yeah, I mean, this should just be a good scrap. Cannibal back.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Haven't seen him in like 18 months. Is that true? Man. Yeah, since the legendary Brendan Allen, Chris Curtis 2, Apex card. Legendary, legendary. Spring of 2024 was the last time It's right
Starting point is 01:17:23 The win over Trevor Peak The man you remember The Trevor Peak era Dude Trevor Pete got a raw deal We haven't talked about that enough but Shout out to Trevor Peak
Starting point is 01:17:32 Did he get cut? Yes You don't remember this Like there was a whole outrage He Not I don't know if it was cut They meant it not
Starting point is 01:17:38 Have renewed his contract But like I'm pretty I'm fairly certain There was like Some big outrage On line about that He was supposed to fight
Starting point is 01:17:44 John Young Lee In May But he got a He fractured his leg oh so maybe wait who am i thinking of no there was another uh hold on i mean there was a moment after that after he fought ghost pepper and got the first round knockout by the standing hammer fists uh where we thought trevor peek was the next big thing yes the standing hammer fists were insane uh i must be confusing him with somebody else but i'll i'll get back to that later i'll find
Starting point is 01:18:10 it uh a couple other fights on the prelims navajo sterling taking on hadolfo ballato belato returning after the Oscar-worthy performance on the UFC Atlanta card against Paul Craig and he is at a rare point in his career where if he loses this fight which he's a fairly big underdog he will be one one
Starting point is 01:18:31 one and one in the UFC one win one loss one draw one no contest for Adolfo Bellado yeah this is a fade for me this is a fade Navajo Sterling
Starting point is 01:18:47 He's undefeated but he's young He's undefeated but it hasn't been like Insanely impressed Like it's been I mean certainly You know the knockout was very good But he's been like a little bit I guess I'll say I expected more He has a win over Yvonne Ursulae though
Starting point is 01:19:04 So we'll see Co-made event But yeah in the co-main event I'm more just not believing that Balato is at this level You mentioned fades Yes You're not the only one fading
Starting point is 01:19:18 Navajo Sterling also doing that He went to Hairtime Now Got the hair done in Turkey Let's go Shout out New hairline for Navajo Sterling It was kind of coming in last fight Now it's really coming in
Starting point is 01:19:29 Shout out to Hairtime Now I gotta say though It looks pretty good with a ball The head like maybe you should have just let it Look man embrace the ball That's what I say Am I crazy though Like head shape wise
Starting point is 01:19:39 He looked pretty good I think I'm becoming radicalized to being anti-transplant. Oh, wow. Just embrace the ball, man. Because there was a while, you were like, we'll take that a little trip, we'll go. Yeah, I don't think I actually ever would have done it.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Yeah, embrace the ball, baby. Embrace the ball. Love it. I need to get the double tats sleeves going. So that you can match that? No, no, no, no. I just need to go get tats sleeves. They just look cool.
Starting point is 01:20:04 All right, some other fights. Obon Elliott, making his return against Jonathan McAuliffe, the local man in McAuliffe. Obon Elliott, minus 500 last time out against Siyok-Hun Ko in Baku back in June, came up short. Very interested to see if he can bounce back, man. That was a, that was not only did he lose the fight, like he got pretty much beat pillar to post in that one. Like it was just like, man, Oven, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 01:20:34 Very interested to see massive favorite in that one is essentially a coin flip now. Want to see Oben bounce back. Yeah, there was some. the circumstances around that fight in terms of the visa and everything like it was definitely don't get me wrong I don't think Oban would make any excuses for his performance
Starting point is 01:20:52 but I do think when things are settled now under the different circumstances we will see a better version now is that better version going to be enough to get the dub that remains to be seen fucking hell but I do I do think
Starting point is 01:21:06 all those things were a factor in contributing to like he just looked like he wasn't there you know it was a really odd performance from Obon against a decent fighter, so we'll see what this next one looks like. Jamie Malarkey taking on Rolando Badoia. I think this is the loser leaves town fight of the night. Jamie Malarkey won three in his last four. We haven't seen him fight in like 18 months.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And Badoia, 0 and 3 to start off his UFC career. Yeah, agree. I think I think I'm going Badoia back against the wall, gets it done against Malarkey. Sure. Loma Luke Boone, you're looking forward to that one? Fuck you know I love a Loma. Danny Rubenstein's. Girl.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah. No, Loma's sick. Loma is... The only other ranked fighter, kicking off the card number 14 in the Strawaway Division. Frank? Fucking out.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I was looking for it. It's tough. Loma's always fun because she's such a... She's such a fantastic striker, and it doesn't really matter the matchup. Like, that's her world. That's her game plan. That's her style.
Starting point is 01:22:05 And I'm a big fan of hers. I like that she's kicking off the card. I think she's going to get it started in the right way. Big underdog. So Alexi Thanara. Yeah. I might throw a little cheddar on Lomlok Boe with me. You could do a lot worse than that.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Get some pad tie afterward? I'm down for that. Should we call up Danny Rue? Put it in him? Danny! Come and get some pad tie with us. Yeah, Luana Carolina taking on Michelle Montague, Brando Perichitz taking on Elisha, Ellison, Kobe thickness, Volksboy, back to take on Josias Musasa.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So yeah, Andre Petrosky. Cam Rousston. It's a decent card, man. I'll be watching. I can tell you that much. I don't think it's a decent card. You gotta be careful with what you say. These people, they'll go against anything. They could put out the sloppiest slop and you still have the defender. All right, let me take the arrows, the slings in arrows. I will be watching. It's a shit card. I will be watching. Carlos Oldberg, Dominic Reyes. There it is. There's your main card. We just went over it. There's your prelims. Get ready. Main event's great and then a bunch not great stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Navajo Sterling. Yeah. Walking down the street. Josias Musasa, Colby thickness. I'd have a hard time. I'd have a hard time. No disrespect. No disrespect.
Starting point is 01:23:25 All right. Let's get into some bets, some parlay pals. I already got Pizzi's pick. He's going with the main event. He's taking Carlos Oldberg. It's a tough week for it. I can't lie. This is a tough week for picks.
Starting point is 01:23:36 I love that. I love that. The music coming in after we're already rolling. I don't, this, this feels, what was the, what was the main event? It's Carlos Oldberg versus Dom. No, no, not the main event for this week. What was the one that I, that I had the bad vibes on recently? Was it Nashville?
Starting point is 01:23:58 Derek Lewis versus, uh, no, no, it was like, very recently. It was, uh, j, j, j, j, j, j, j, j. Yes, yes. Yeah, Nashville? It was, no, no. Was that Nashville? Hoofee versus BST. Oh, you're talking about for Pizzi's pick?
Starting point is 01:24:18 Yeah, the bad vibes. I have the bad vibes. I have the bad vibes on this one. I'm going with Olberg. Ladies night? Oh, boy. I got the bad vibes. All right, Frankie, you kick us off.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Then Rick, then I'll go. Thank you. I was going to go with Jack Jenkins, but you guys did a lot of describing exactly why I am now picking Jake Matthews. Nice. Thank you for that. Biggest favorite on the card, classic. Love it.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Anybody going to back Oban? Not I. My next or you next? Fuck, you go. I'm going to go. Novo Sterling. Ah, let's go. Transplant Sterling.
Starting point is 01:24:53 I will go with, you're afraid to take them? I'll take Jack Jenkins. I'll take Farr to get it done. I love it. I don't love it, actually. This is a tricky card. Wait, where are we at? Did we win last time?
Starting point is 01:25:06 No, we haven't won in fucking weeks. Oh, because he picked the Connecticut. Look at that. We're almost back in the red. We've got to win this week. Carlos Oldberg, Nalo, Sterling, Jack Jenkins. I didn't love the Canelo on either. I don't love the Solver. Hey.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Yeah, I don't love this one. All right, my bets for the weekend. Let's rip them. Not backing them in the parlay pals, but I'll back them with my American dollar Zobon Elliott. Gets it done. Facking out. We're just supporting them.
Starting point is 01:25:33 We're just supporting the Welsh gangster. Next up, Rolando Badoia winless in the UFC. No more. Back against the wall. Gets it done against Jamie Malarkey, who were unsure of, you know, where he's at in his career. I like Rolando Badoia. A couple of parleyes. And I said I don't love the parley pals. But I, my two parleyes are actually the parley pals split up. That's... Is that for real? Yeah, Navajo Sterling and Jack Jenkins. But I should have done Navajo Sterling and Carlos Oldberg done a city kickboxing. But, yeah, and then Carlos Solberg and Jake Matthews. Don't love this card from a betting standpoint. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Just save my Shekels for next week. UFC 320. PFL values. Yeah. It's going to be great. It's going to be great. Those are the bets. I like that, though.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Just four for me. I like that your two parleyes are parlay. I'm, now I feel better. Now I feel a lot better. You shouldn't. You shouldn't. I'm on a horrible run right now. I've been getting crushed since like UFC.
Starting point is 01:26:39 No, no. This is the week, baby. We turn it back. This is the week. All right, we go to our pound-for-pound rankings this week. Yes. Nice and simple. No explanation needed. Oh, okay. The promotion returns to Perth. Yes. Perth is home to many great fighters.
Starting point is 01:26:56 One being the current welterweight champion of the world, Jack Della Madelana. Giacomo della Madelena. However you say, J.D.M. Three names. Jackie, three names. So in honor of Perth's son, champion, representative, we know he's not fighting on the card, he fights next month, but in honor of Perth's champion, Jack Delam, Matalana, triple name Jack, pound for pound, best triple names. Okay. Best triple namers. Best three names. I wasn't actually even aware how we got here, but now I understand. Now you get it.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And boy, there are more than you would anticipate. What's the order, Frankie? You know, what, the order today is going to be Frank, okay, Connor, and then Rick. Yeah, I'm very excited for this. So, like, think like a Martin Luther King, a... Junior. Mary Tyler Moore.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Senior. Don't give away. What if these are on our list? Tommy Lee Jones. What are you doing? I just want you to think that. I mean, if you guys have those on your list, your lists are subpoly. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Wow. Martin Luther King. Horle Luther King's legend. Leonard King's things. Legend, but I'm talking about strictly the name. That is a good question. Did you guys go by like... Wait, you went by just the name?
Starting point is 01:28:17 I went by like how powerful the name is... Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, my list is... Oh, boy. All right, Frankie, kick us off. All right, so my number five is John Paul Jones, which I admit has staying power of just the name itself.
Starting point is 01:28:32 JPM Paul Jones. I didn't know who this was. Base player from Led Zeppelin. If you know, you know, the rhythm section. and Led Zeppelin is just top-notch. I actually did know. Rick did not. I did not. I don't know. No, number four, Helena Bottom Carter.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Oh, yeah. Oh, that's a hell of a game. Seen here as Marla Singer from Fight Club. She's married to Tim Burton. Yeah, yeah. Was apparently. Helatrix was strange. Yes. Then she was in Harry Potter.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Legend. Yeah, great stuff. Number three. She's an icon. I love her. Edward James Olmos. Yes. Just got to see this guy on Tuesday night.
Starting point is 01:29:10 This is from Blade Runner. DJO. He was also in Stand and Deliver as a teacher, played in Battlestar Galactica, and there was Selena's mom. And the Selena... He was the mom, huh? Salinas. Oh, dad. Dad.
Starting point is 01:29:23 He was the mom. All right. He still sees a little low energy, man. You need some espresso or something? You're all right? I don't know. Then number two, James Earl Jones. Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:33 All right. Here, as Tholeslet Doom. from Conan the Barbarian I've never seen this Yeah I mean look at that This is literally his real hair That is definitely his real hair You might know him from other films
Starting point is 01:29:48 Such as Star Wars Oh you might you might You might you might This was his best role This was his best role Definitely That was Darth Vader Look at you couldn't even see him
Starting point is 01:29:56 In La Fossa Here look at this face This was his best role Get out of here You just named the two things Where he voices This is him actually acting In the Flue
Starting point is 01:30:05 Field of Dreams Incredible role for him Wow. Voice actors aren't actors. Headline by friend. Moving on to number one. Coming to America. I mean, just like iconic. The number one best three-named person. Triple-namer. Triple-namer. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Maynard James Keenan, frontman of the band Tool. Seen here with a new documentary he has about B.J. That's a flex right there. Just got his black belt from... Sick. I think Kai Gay is a guy's name or Kaigai? I don't know his name. Definitely not Kai Sakor.
Starting point is 01:30:36 No. However, great guy makes wine out in Arizona. Very interesting. Best three names. Moving on to Con. Red and black on the, on the ghee. On the ghee. The pick of him with Nate.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Your list, your list got elevated. That was great. All right, that's it, Frankie? That's it. A little low energy there. That felt like I don't know. Sums up with old Frankie. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:00 I kick off my number five with an absolute legend. One of the best actors of our generation. Oh. Mission Impossible. Okay. Hunger Games. Oh. Moneyball.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Almost famous. Magnolia. Won an Oscar. Oh, yeah. For Coppote. Philip Seymour Hoffman, rest in peace. Absolutely legendary is with the Oscar. The guy brings it.
Starting point is 01:31:24 There's no other way to put it other than the guy brings it. In Mission Impossible, he's the villain and like outclasses Tom Cruise tenfold. He blows him off the source. The guy absolutely brings it. He's unbelievable in every movie he's in. Just like an actor's actor, it feels like. Just an actor that takes everything incredibly serious. Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Legend to the game. Powerful name. Powerful name. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Love that. Number four. Another legend. Oh.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Writing so powerful that he created an NFL team. I know where we're going. Essentially created the modern detective story and one of the greatest names of all time. Edgar, Alan. Poe, if you don't know the NFL story, the Baltimore Ravens, where he lived his life and was buried based on his
Starting point is 01:32:12 iconic book, The Raven. That's why they got their name. Look at that. There's their mascot. Poe, the Raven. Shout out. Edgar Allan Poe. EAP. Look at that. Lamar Jackson. This guy's not rocking purple and black if it's not for Edgar Allan Poe.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Joe Flacco ain't holding the Super Bowl trophy for the Baltimore Ravens if it's not for Edgar Allan Poe. Fan of the work or more the impact. Do we like Edgar Allan Poe? No, I'm not going to sit down and read it. Okay. But it's a short story.
Starting point is 01:32:44 More of a legend. Take you 20 minutes. I'm not going to sit down and read it, Frank. All right. Playing the semantics is a tough game. You're all right, man? You're okay back there? You're all right, Frankie?
Starting point is 01:32:56 I'm just reading The Raven right now. You'll be done in 20 minutes, man. Short story. Go ahead and sit down. Start the clock. What is this? We can't call a short story a book these days, you know? A piece of literature?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Number three, legend. All these people on my list are legend. Skyhook, big glasses, six-time champ, six-time MVP, three-time NCAA champ. Guy could also act, airplane, Bruce Lee movies, Karim Abdul-Jabar. Yeah, the hyphen counts. Don't even worry about it. Look at that. Sky-hook, right in.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Is that Bill Ambier's face? Yes. Unbelievable, man. I mean, the King of Cool back in the 70s. Larry Obie's John Wooden Awards. Worked with, played for John Wooden, yeah. Absolute Legend, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Look at him as Roger Murdoch, an airplane.
Starting point is 01:33:47 My name's Roger Murdoch. You tell your dad, I bust my hump getting up and down that court. Shout out to Kareem Abdul-Jabar. Powerful name. What's even crazier, a la Muhammad Ali Cash's Clay, his OG name. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is not his real name. Luw Al-Sindor, also unbelievable name.
Starting point is 01:34:04 So shout out to Kareemad Jabbar. Number two, this was hard to not make this guy number one. My boy composed over a thousand pieces of music, changed the game. Born in the 1600s, before all your Beethoven's and your Mozart's, perfected the Baroque musical style. The most transcribed, studied, orchestrated music by musician and composers throughout time. It is one, Johann Sebastian Bach. Name doesn't get more powerful than that.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Johan Sebastian Bach. Look at my guy just shredding keys right there, baby. Shout out to him. Johann Sebastian Bach. Each individual name, incredibly powerful. Here he is seen smelling a fart. Smelling a fart while holding his little miniature musical notes. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, also a real powerful triple-namer.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And then, I mean, that's a great one. And then number one, one of the greatest to ever do it. Yeah, one of the greatest to ever do it. Just got done boxing and called out Jake Paul. Some spell it, J-T-H. I spell it. G-O-A-T, baby. James Tihuna, number one.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Let's go. We officially got the merchant. Look at that. One-of-one right here. James T-Huna, you're damn right. We got the T-shirt made for it, baby. Look at that thing. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:32 He's never looked better. Oh, my God. That's a one-of-one for you right there. What a moment. What a reveal. Easily the number one triple name. What are we doing pound for pound GC shirts? This would also be number one. I was the one that came up with this idea.
Starting point is 01:35:49 This was the whole reason we did this list. Oh, look at that. God, it looks good. It is great. Well done by you. Can I confess it didn't even cross my mind. I knew it would. It did not even cross.
Starting point is 01:36:02 What are you going to say? Yeah, good on you. James, space, T.E. Space. Huna? Sounds like three words to me. Sounds like three words. Are we going to get into semantics? Frank has some issues with the qualifications on the list here.
Starting point is 01:36:17 He's saying T.E. not a word. He could have done Anna da Armist, but he said D.E. is not a word, which it very much is Spanish. Also, you know, I was going to maybe push a little bit that like Bach better known by a singular name as opposed to. Oh, no. He did anything wrong with Johan. well you're calling him Johann Sebastian and Bob
Starting point is 01:36:38 that's a great I mean Bravo well done well done on the shirt well done on planting the seed of this thing and then executing very well done
Starting point is 01:36:50 I am embarrassed by my list because it pales in comparison it's not quite as creative although I have been told it has a theme I have not yet identified this theme but we will continue number five
Starting point is 01:37:03 you talk about how everybody on your list is a legend, I would submit that everybody on my list is an absolute legend of the game. From what era? Can you give us an era of your life that they came from? It's 90s. 90s. We're talking 90s. We're talking 90s. Like core memories of
Starting point is 01:37:19 the triple namers on my list. Number five, we're going to get this started with somebody who's been in our life for quite a while has just recently returned to our lives in the form of the remake of, I know what you, I still know what you did last summer. Jennifer, one Jennifer
Starting point is 01:37:37 Love you with. Shout out. Shout out to one of the goat. What are you going to say, Frankie? Now, here's an important thing. For this one, the screenshots are going to match two iconic moments. For this one, can't hardly wait, walking into the party. If you were there, you know what happens. This is a godly tier moment. Some mysterious prank in the back there.
Starting point is 01:37:57 When JLH walks in. And then the second screenshot is another iconic moment from, I know what you did last summer, where. Come and get us. No, no, it's, what are you waiting for? She's screaming, what are you waiting for? Can't hardly wait. What are you waiting for?
Starting point is 01:38:12 I love it. Good connection. She is encouraging the killer to come. Like, let's just get this over with. Two iconic moments from an icon herself, Jennifer Love Hewitt. Number four, I mean, one of the most talented actresses of this era was able to helm two different extremely popular franchises. The first, actually, let's go with her name first.
Starting point is 01:38:36 The one, the only, Melissa Joan Hart. Rick, do you have your water bottle with you? I do. Because, motherfucker, you'd be thirsty. Wow. Very good, Frank. Zing. Clarissa explains it all.
Starting point is 01:38:49 Are you old enough for that? Not Clarissa explains at all. Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Let's go to the next one, Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Yeah, yeah, that's what I know. Two iconic franchises was able to helm them both. A fantastic actress, one of the real memorandum. remakers of the 90s.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Number three, lesser known, lesser known, but still powerful in her own right. That is one Amy Jo Johnson, and if you would know, this is the Pink Ranger. This is Kimberly herself, the Pink Ranger. Great documentary. This one, oh, yeah, for sure. Three namers are not like baddies, right? Say what? Just making sure we're on the same subject.
Starting point is 01:39:29 We're doing people with three names. Three names. Jennifer loves you, man. He appreciates. Melissa John Hart, Amy Joe Johnson. Just chill for a minute. 50? I love it.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Wait, so Frank, are you going to tell me you were not a fan? I was making sure we're on the same thing. Did you not love Can't Hardly Wait? And I know what you did last summer. I fucking love them. Sabrina and Clarissa. Both of them. Power Rangers, the Pink Ranger.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I mean, come on, bro. The Pink Ranger was the good. Don't be weird about it. Don't be weird about it. Number two, this lore, I mean, is cultural phenomenon level. Like, everybody, their grandmother, like, We're all on the team here. There was a megastar born in this era on television.
Starting point is 01:40:10 And that was one Sarah Michelle Geller, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I mean, who better than Buffy? Ricks five for five, like hot actresses from the 90s. That's what I said. Oh, shit, I didn't even realize that. But no, from the 90s like, yeah. I mean, how many of these did you have as posters in your room in the 90s? None.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Come on. I didn't have posters. By then I had Kazan... What did you have instead? Oh, okay. We're really leading into this. All right, so, Sarah Michelle Miller. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, like, you know, who wasn't watching that at the time?
Starting point is 01:40:46 And number one, it had to be the best three-nameer. Also, like, the best name as well. Like, I feel like your list could have had this young lady on it because the name itself is fantastic. The one, the only Tiffany Amber Thesson, aka Kelly Kapowski. This is literally. Rick's fucking 90s This is just Rick Huberty Oh is it?
Starting point is 01:41:08 I mean actually now that I think harder about it It actually could be I didn't have that in mind As I was going into it But now that I think about it A-Mittal fighter Kelly fucking Kapowski man I mean
Starting point is 01:41:19 Wow A plus plus Shout out to all these These incredible women And their fine acting performance What a list Acting performances What?
Starting point is 01:41:27 Well the nice Abe by the bell Buffy Pink Ranger from Power Rangers Sabrina and Clarissa and I know what you did less I mean come on be respectful now
Starting point is 01:41:38 90s Rick man I'm pretty happy with how that turned out yeah yeah yeah I can tell you are man this really is just like the 90s it was the popular thing in the 90s honestly Giacomo della Madelena is a great one no Julia Louise Dreyfus
Starting point is 01:41:53 Julia Louis Julia Louis is hyphenated right no she she would kind of made the list she would be like number six maybe He's from the 90s Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean she was a good looking cat John Wilkes Booth
Starting point is 01:42:08 Legend That's a tough one, that's a tough one Daniel Day Lewis, legend Daniel, yeah Funny that you mentioned that right after John Wooks Booth when he Yeah, it's the connection He played Lincoln, he won an Oscar for that
Starting point is 01:42:19 George Washington Carver For sure A peanut butter Ruth Bader Ginsburg Oh yes Jamie Lee Curtis Michael Vinim Page You know what
Starting point is 01:42:30 Michael Venom Page That's not bad. You said James Lee Curtis and they cut to me because they knew that would be like number six or seven there. I was like, is he going to go a nickname in here with He Hate Me? Oh, XFL. Rod Smart? Rob was his name? Yeah, who no one knows.
Starting point is 01:42:45 His name is he hate me. Change his name. Meta World Peace. Oh, wow. That actually is a great one. Wow, his name was Rod Smart. Look at me. That's a deep cut.
Starting point is 01:42:52 William Robbins points out Leroy Jenkins. Leroy Jenkins. What? I thought Leroy was one. He wrote it as three. I'm taking on Lee Robbins. Banya Taylor Joy. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Surprised that didn't make Rix. Do you see Rick's face? Oh, yeah. The era. What are we doing? On the Armas. The eras didn't line up properly. Alexander Graham Bell.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Guys, I'm an appreciator of 90s culture. Polyam Bonap Party. Billy Jean King. Yeah, for sure. Frank Lloyd Wright. That's a good one. John Philip Sousa. Otto Luis Huxstable.
Starting point is 01:43:26 I don't know who that is. Did you look up a list? No, she's an architect. Culture. yourselves for once. After you went for Freakley, right? Francis Scott Key?
Starting point is 01:43:35 Aware of him. Gus Van Sant. Samuel L. Jackson? Michael J. Fox? No, okay. Not his real middle name. Yes. Andrew.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Not as real. Actors Guild, there was another Michael Fox. He had to just select and added the J. Couldn't have just gone A. Neil deGrasse Tyson? sick
Starting point is 01:44:01 uh drigis du plesse we're getting dice on that one Albert Einstein uh wait what uh hochi men
Starting point is 01:44:12 the non president from the 60s he's still the active president he's the president he's like lying in state yeah apparently he's still in charge uh billy bob thornton
Starting point is 01:44:23 nice did I say Billy Jean King is Bob a nickname of Billy I don't know Bob Billy is William and Bob is Robert. Yeah. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Stevie Ray Vaughn. He almost made my list. John Wilkes Booth? Okay. Love him so much. We had to start out. Yes, James DeHuda. Who is Kennedy's assassin?
Starting point is 01:44:48 We don't know, man. Oh, uh, yeah, yeah. Who is the convicted or the... James Oalswold. James Earl Jones. Oh, yeah. Lee Harvey, Oswald. Harvey Lee Oswald.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Harvey Lee Oswald. Yeah, who knows. No, Lee Harvey. I've heard about Lee Harvi. Yeah, Lee Harvinan. Harley V. Harley v. motorcycle? All right, before we get to voicemails, that was a fun practice.
Starting point is 01:45:12 You don't really realize how many triple namers there are out there. I might just start going by Connor Bennett-Berkes. Before we get to that, a new photo has hit the timeline. We were just loving on Louis Southerland's physique. Okay. He did his UFC Media Day. we have the picture of what he looks like
Starting point is 01:45:33 not quite as imposing that ain't the same traps look a little bit smart can we go to the other one it's a little bit different the lighting definitely the lighting flexing
Starting point is 01:45:46 oh boy yeah the Justin Tava money line has has shifted yo someone says Orville Redenbach No, that's one thing, right?
Starting point is 01:46:00 I think that's just two words. Millie Bobby Brown, shout out. Haley Joe Osmond? Shout out. Big pop-up pump. Yeah, that's a wrestler. I thought that we were talking about Ritt. Steiner.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Honestly. Is that Scott Steiner? Walk a flock of flame. Shout out. Wait, is it Scott Stein? Oh, Michael J. White. That's a good one. No, King Griffey Jr.
Starting point is 01:46:23 That's a good one. King Griffey Jr., yeah. Willem Defoe? come on wait what isn't that one the chat is really getting in our Robert Downing Jr. That's one that's two names Justinio the Cheetah Kim John Moon
Starting point is 01:46:37 People just don't Okay people just don't Don't get Homer J. Simpson Nah man He goes by Homer Simpson Hillary Rodham Clinton Okay He goes by Hillary Clinton
Starting point is 01:46:49 You can't just do people with middle names That's not how this goes That freaking Rollins Oh Donald J. Now he does do that and George W. Bush both went by their three name. Well, that's because his father was also... Jake...
Starting point is 01:47:02 Jake Joseph Paul? No. Ooh, Kennedy Genedevich Golovkin? Oh, Triple G. Actually, Triple G would have been a pretty good one. That's not bad. Billy Joe Armstrong.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Rob Van Gogh, the 14th? Nah, it doesn't count. Barack Hussein Obama. All right, we got any voice mails. It's some point. Okay, I care for him. Hunter J. Python. Ahoy, hoi, hoi.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, just a little quick question here. So, if Tom Aspinall beat Cyril game, you know, in a fashionable way, do we really expect, you know, Tom to even want, like, even to begin to it, and accept a match against John again? And, you know, I wasted 11 months of brother's career. And John said he would fight whoever the champion is at the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:48:07 So, and if he's not fighting on the White House card, what card is he fighting on? What's going on with that? You know? What card is John Jones? So, yeah, my overall question would be if Tom are not. knocks Cyril out in the first round in under two minutes and ten seconds
Starting point is 01:48:29 does Tom need to fight John oh basically do we revisit all right so we're making the comment thank you very much god damn we're making the comparison
Starting point is 01:48:43 talk slow thank you very much yo man 10 seconds thank you very much Jesus Christ this isn't actually still going all these reviews Frankis
Starting point is 01:48:58 Mancass manipulating you Fucked man Yo Get these shit out of here This poor guy Thank you for the call So he's making the direct comparison 210
Starting point is 01:49:12 Zero Gone Well no he's basically saying Do we care to revisit this whole John Jones saga I know but he was making the comparison That's how long it took John to finish Zero Gone if he does it faster. I don't think that matters. He just has to beat Cyril gone and then you can book the John Jones with Tom. Do you do it? So my biggest thing is you're now operating on Tom Aspinall's timeline.
Starting point is 01:49:31 If Tom Aspinall can is, if his next fight after this one is on the White House card and it be John Jones, so be it. If not someone else step in. Well, it can't be though. I mean, if Conner's on the White House card, which all signs are pointing to at this point, they're not doing Tom versus John on there as well. Conceivably not, right? That is, you're giving up a massive pay-per-view or at this point not pay-per-view anymore, but you're giving up a massive. fight for one of your other like premium tent pole cards i don't know man because basically you're in a tough predicament right john jones is basically like the white house card is the thing that's motivating him right not tom aspinall he walked away from a fight with tom aspinall so if it's not the white house card can you rely on the idea that john jones would get back in there with tom aspinall i don't know i don't know i guess you just have to feel it out i i think you can still make john
Starting point is 01:50:19 versus tom but i don't know john's motivation seems to be that white house card and And if it's not that, then I do wonder if you can get them back out. Yeah, I guess that is a good point. If it is going to be McGregor, then you're not going to put John Jones and McGregor on the same card. And if it's not the White House card, is John Jones actually going to come back. Yeah. It feels like the answer is no. Hello, boys.
Starting point is 01:50:39 What's up, all right. So with the Fizve and the Oliveira cancellation, read something about that, leaves the top 10 of lightweight unbooked. Also looking at Walserweight, outside of the championship fight. And Mr. Prattes and Leon, I don't think there is a top ten-fied book there either. So the question to you guys is, do you guys think there is a notable lack of activity at both lightweight and both weight as of right now? Or do you think you got to wait to see a little bit more inactivity from those divisions? And two, what are some matchups in either of those divisions that you guys want to see that isn't really getting talked about?
Starting point is 01:51:19 like give me like a deryush and I don't know fucking Holloway what do you guys think have a good one yeah we noticed that the other week
Starting point is 01:51:31 we were talking about how the welterweight we were talking about we noticed that on Monday how there's I don't think anyone in the top 15 is currently booked at lightweight
Starting point is 01:51:39 now obviously other than Charles and Gamrod but the welterweight as well the welterweight as well the law is not booked Brady's not booked shopcott not booked
Starting point is 01:51:47 Usman Gary Morales Buckley projects. Yeah, we just need to get these divisions moving. I don't know
Starting point is 01:51:53 if it's inactivity or the UFC's just schedule is working out like this but these two divisions need to start getting fights booked. Walter Waite seemed like
Starting point is 01:52:02 it was like getting momentum and now it has come to a screeching halt. Like we need to see some of these get booked. Is there one that you really have to see?
Starting point is 01:52:12 I really want to see Brady versus Gary. I think that would be a great fighter. Brady versus Usman. I'm down for Brady Usman because I want to see Ian and Belal
Starting point is 01:52:21 Okay Ian versus Belal Brady Usman Where's I put Shavcott? That's the problem Michael Morales versus Shavcott Undefeated undefeated
Starting point is 01:52:30 Bro he's seventh He's got to fight someone I know but like God damn Like Shavkot's the guy who was like Title shot
Starting point is 01:52:38 title shot title shot and now he's got to fight a killer like Michael Morales I mean he literally got a title shot and they got injured I mean he's been fucked by the injuries
Starting point is 01:52:46 That feels like a real bad consolation for him. I don't know, man. It's a tricky puzzle to figure out, and I imagine that's why a lot of this is hard, because there are the politics. It's not just as easy as like, here's a fight. There's the politics of this, right? If you're a fighter, do you always have to take the opportunity presented to you? I don't know, but to your point, they've got to move. Like, these divisions need some activity. Lightway needs some more activity. Lightway, which is like the glamour division, like one of the most exciting divisions in the entire organization. Like, it's, we got to start getting some people booked.
Starting point is 01:53:19 I think it's actually more dire and welterweight. Like, we had so much momentum. Please, like, return to that. It was, like, we're getting the Morales into the top of the weight class. Like, Shavkat's just sitting right there. Let's get people moving. Like, that is the thing that I need to see.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Man, I wouldn't be surprised. Camaro Usman just waits and, like, could get a title shot. Like, some crazy shit like that. We just need to, like, get these divisions moving. I'm with you. Hi, guys. my name's Colin
Starting point is 01:53:50 first time long time I'm just wondering if you get you guys are probably familiar with phrase hear me out what is you guys is hear me out
Starting point is 01:53:58 fight so a fight that you love but it seems like nobody else appreciates as much as you do I don't want to hear like your
Starting point is 01:54:05 what you think is the greatest fight of all time just what you think might be like the most underappreciated fight or a fight
Starting point is 01:54:11 you feel like you have to defend when you mention how good it is oh okay so that's like already happened ooh man
Starting point is 01:54:17 this is tough it's tough because a lot of the great fights are kind of universally recognized as great, right? Like, everybody likes the same types of fights, right? We all love, like, the bluts, the blood and guts, like, glory-type fights. When I always go back to that, I mean, obviously in 2022,
Starting point is 01:54:36 it got mad love. Sumidharji Matt Schnell, that's one that I'd go back to that, like, wasn't really any stakes attached to it. It was an unbelievable fight that I got to watch in person, but that's not like I don't have to defend that against anyone. Man, this is actually a really good question. So there's two that I think are super slept. One is super slept on and does not get the recognition it deserves,
Starting point is 01:54:56 and that's Piotr-Yon versus Corey Sandhaken. That is a- Oh, sick fight. That is a, that like nobody will ever talk about a revisit again. Any ball-all-fight? Which one? I'm saying, any ball-all fight? Yeah, any ball-all-fight is underrated. The one that, like, time has just kind of left in the dust,
Starting point is 01:55:13 that is like one of my favorite performances, my favorite fights of all time, is T. Elisaw versus Henan Borough. Completely one-sided, but it was mind-blowing at the time that it occurred, and there are tons of people who have never seen that fight. Yeah, this is one that I want to think on a little bit more. That's a great question, though. There's got to be one out there that, like, really people don't think about it. When I come to it, it's just like all fights of the year, like, year... Everybody loves them, yeah. It's so hard to find, like, the, like, sneaky one. Yon versus Sandhagen, I think, is, like, sneaky enough that, like, people wouldn't know.
Starting point is 01:55:45 All right, we're hopping off fast. We'll be back in two minutes. Only on YouTube, stick with us. All right, welcome back, Frankie. Let's keep the voicemails rolling. Hey, this is Matt from Dagestan by way of North Boston, Massachusetts, the 978. Shout to the 978. Thank you, G.C. I was calling into address, Rick.
Starting point is 01:56:07 I just wanted to give him his props. I've been hard on him in the past. His crossover list, absolutely incredible. We have two comforts in Dagestan. The first is cartoons. You're 100% right. There was a crossover episode of Archer and Bob's Burgers. They're voiced by the same guy.
Starting point is 01:56:28 They literally just put Archer in as Bob explained nothing. Russians were after him. Incredible episode of TV. The other comfort that we have is B-grade horror movies. 100% spot on Rick. Freddie versus Jason in the Hall of Fame for horror movies. The whole movie was Schleppy,
Starting point is 01:56:50 you are right. However, the last scene of Jason coming out of Crystal Lake holding Freddy's head in slow motion. It was like fucking Steven Spielberg directed it. A beautiful shot. Hard agree. Like in the Hall of Fame for horror movie
Starting point is 01:57:07 scenes. I just wanted to invite you guys. I actually moved from Dagestan to North Boston because I am an accomplice. Freddie Kruggen, Freddy Krueger, cosplayer, Salem, Massachusetts, the Halloween capital of the world. We're expecting about 5 million people to come through this year, invite the whole boys in the back to Salem for the festivities. Hopefully you guys can come.
Starting point is 01:57:36 But if not, but if not, let me know. Do you show up as a Freddie Krueger impersonator? Cosplay, yeah, like, cosplayer. Does that invitation come with, like, passes to your, haunted house or whatever you do with your Freddy Krueger cosplay. I would love to go to Salem. Love Halloween. Love the fall. Love everything that goes along with it. Do we think he's actually
Starting point is 01:57:55 from Dagestan? No. Do we think that proposal on Monday was real? I'm convinced, no. We have not heard anything. You can get a single picture? No, not yet. Not yet. The wheels of love move on their own time. You know, yeah, because you probably, you know, they're still celebrating
Starting point is 01:58:11 maybe. Let's find out by next year's there. I think it was bullshit. You got us. I'm sorry, that was still in the queue. Yo, what's going on? Just want to say shout out our boy, Raging Al. Shout out of the finest. Wanted to give him a special thank you for the $1,000 that he gave me recently for winning his contest.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Damn. On Instagram. Sick. Once again, yep, shout out Raging Al. Legend. And, G.C., we need you to take over the Halwani desk at least one day, more a week now. Let's go. I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Can't do that. I don't have the mental fortitude to be able to do that. You just did it. Lights are bright here, man. Yeah, did it one week. Can't keep it up. Can't keep it up. Doing two shows a lot.
Starting point is 01:58:56 You got to play in for a lot of shit. Also, shout out to the fans. I was walking on the street the other day, and some guys stopped me. He was like, yo, Jay, too. He stopped me. He was like, yo, G.C. What's good? I was like, oh, what's good, man?
Starting point is 01:59:06 He just goes, shout out. All I said, he just kept walking. I love it. Keep it pushing. Shout out. Shout out, man. This is my first voicemail leave. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:59:19 For the boys in the back. Howdy to AI, La Quinta, man, dude. That fight you had against the beat, bro. You really brought it to him on short notice. Y'all keep doing your thing. Much love. Bye. Much love, brother.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Appreciate the call. We'll relay the message to Reginald. A lot of people showing love to Reginald. Shut up. That, man. He was great. Him and Beethoven. Been in contact with Beethoven.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Shout out to him. What's up, boys in the back? Greg here from Maryland. I wanted to give you all a shout out. I've been a long-time listener, first-time caller. Maybe it was him. You all have helped me through some pretty rough times, like losing my dad unexpectedly last year. I doubt you realize how much it helps to laugh along with all of you week after week
Starting point is 02:00:06 and get caught up on MMA at the same time. I'm a fifth grade teacher. This is my 19th year teaching. And when I read to my students many times the boys in the back of my classroom are talking, and it always makes me laugh when I say, hey, boys in the back, get back on task. And I think of your podcast. Last week I shared with my students that I listened to your podcast, and I played them your theme song, Bo Boys in the Back, which they absolutely love.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Yeah. And now they sing it themselves, and anything is better than that six, seven nonsense. I told them I was going to call in, so I'm going to play them. this for them if you answer my question what is amazing your favorite memory of elementary school is it a favorite teacher favorite activity you did what stands out in your mind thanks for all you do to bring joy to our lives i appreciate you much love what was the question again yeah what a call first and foremost incredible call elegant kept it rolling the entire time very sorry to hear about your father uh we really appreciate you listening man and very able to do job
Starting point is 02:01:13 just even one little 1% to make things better. We can't tell you how much that means. We really, really appreciate it. That means a lot, man. 19 years teaching fifth grade, you got more patience than me, brother. Favorite thing about elementary school? Didn't that Rick already give us his list, really?
Starting point is 02:01:31 That's a good one, Frankie. That's a good one, Frankie. Shout out to Bayside High, baby. I was going to say, shout out to Kelly Kapowski. I loved recess, man. I was one of those kids that would, like, sweat, like, hell at recess. Like I would go out there, going hard on the four square courts, the tetherball, the basketball. You get a football game going.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Fridays you get the extendo recess where you get like an extra 15 minutes out there. Loved, loved recess and P.E. I was that like chubby fifth grader that like definitely wreaked a B.O. Because he sweats so much at recess. Yeah, it's hard for me to go with a specific memory. I don't really have a great like one memory. but I do feel like I got into some good habits there that have carried on and served in elementary school? Oh yeah. Reading. I was a voracious reader. Like I was books. Like I'd be
Starting point is 02:02:25 reading in class while the lessons going on just because I was so hungry to like read. What do we read? Junie Jones. Goose bumps. Oh, shout out. I was, I was on those goosebumps hard, heavy. What did he say? He said the raven. Simple 20 minutes. Bro, I was, uh, goosebumps was sick. Used to scare me the dummy ones. Night of the Living Dummy. Top five goosebumps wouldn't be a bad pound for pound. Captain Underpants, legend. Junie B. Jones.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Limony Snicket. Limit Snicket. Box car kids. Important one. Goose bumps or goosebumps choose your own adventure. O.G. I was straight goosebumps. I was straight goosebumps.
Starting point is 02:03:05 I like the R.L. Stein should have made the three-nameer today. That's a bad R. L. L. Stein. Yeah. Are they still It looks like they're still... By the way, they did come back. I was going to say, and like, bro, it looks like they really like made the covers way less scary. Dude, some of these covers, I'm looking at the haunted mask one.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Like, some of the covers were creepy, bro. They were super creepy. Yeah, night of the living dummy. The best part of this is this incredible teacher has asked for this and our message to the kids is like, yo, remember goosebumps? Yo, that's our... Goosebums, like, this is actually, like, it's unlocking some core memories here. Like, goosebumps really, like, I'm seeing some of these covers, and it is just bringing me back, man.
Starting point is 02:03:48 The color, the color blocking, right? It would be, like, one or two color match, and then the rest of it was the photo. Bro, then they made the show was a banger, too, with, like, the music, and it's, like, the G, the shadow G moving across everything, and, like, the dog's eyes light up. It's like, d, d, d, d, d, d, oh, yeah. Shout out to goosebumps. Shout out goosebumps. Um, what's our message to the kids? What's our message to the students in the class?
Starting point is 02:04:12 I don't get to answer the question. Yeah, what was your favorite thing? Go ahead, Frank. For me, it was, uh, was actually Magic the Gathering. It was a big player back in, uh, in elementary school? Yeah, that's where I made some of my best friends. We used to play before school in the, uh, gymnasium. They wouldn't let you do any, like, PE type stuff.
Starting point is 02:04:29 He just had to line up. We actually got the game banned from the school because that back then is when they would, like, really lean into, like, the, uh, the pentagrams and shit. So the school was like, yeah, we're not having that. and then they took all that out of the artwork, which that's why I stopped playing. Bro, I was a Neanderthal in elementary school. Yeah, it was all sports, right?
Starting point is 02:04:45 Oh, yeah, I wasn't reading. I wasn't doing any of that. School lunches. Well, you clearly were reading because your goosebumps just triggered you. Scholastic book fair? Oh, yes. That might have been my actual favorite thing.
Starting point is 02:04:56 You'd go to that, spend way too much money. Did you ever buy books, or did you end up just buying the Michael Jordan like on the slab cards? I'd get the books, but I would get the books with shit with them. so it was like the Captain Underpants with the hypno ring that comes on it. Like that's, you'd sneak it in. What's our message to the kids?
Starting point is 02:05:14 I feel like the message is, respect your teachers, listen to what they're telling you. It may not seem like it. Wow. Good job, Frank. You know what? These are fifth graders.
Starting point is 02:05:25 It's all good. They need to hear it the most. These are fifth graders. Yeah, respect to teachers. This is definitely not going to resonate, but just enjoy having zero responsibility. Yeah, enjoy it for now. your teachers are trying to help you advance in life
Starting point is 02:05:38 you'll look back fondly on these memories one day enjoy it because it's like from Billy Madison he was like cherish it for as long as you can that is reality pretty accurate for the love of God yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't mind
Starting point is 02:05:51 elementary school dad I was up boys is Jordan Kansas City can you see I'm sure you said shout out Kansas City but I like the comment I didn't people are missing the mark on the first time caller first one ever did it
Starting point is 02:06:04 but don't worry I'll be efficient First I just want to say, I take that load of the ring because of Connor. I'm 28. We have a lot of things in common, I think, Connor. I love some food panda. I love interstellar. I mean, who doesn't? And, like, I got it.
Starting point is 02:06:14 Yeah, I get it now. Like, it's up there. That 24-year-old TGI holds up somehow. So, yeah, another steaming hot take for Rick, because those movies are fire. But this is to be expected from the man who likes reality TV. So not too much hate all you go, Rick. Respected to OGs. You know, I'm 28, but I've watched a long time since, like, 2010,
Starting point is 02:06:31 which basically appreciated my question. But at all the boys in the back, what's the fight that really got. you made the MMA. For me, it was silver first song in one. I was like 13 years old. And I was completely taken aback by the fact that you could literally beat the absolute shit out of someone for like 95% of the fights and that person could just throw up a submission and somehow you're a loser. So I felt for you that day that day that did you did. But that was the day I became an Andrew Silver fan and pretty much started my UFC fandom. So here's to see what you guys have to say. But yeah, that's all I got. Shout out Andy. Shout out Jordan. We got the same
Starting point is 02:07:02 name, Ariel, watching the anime for Christ's sake. What are you doing, man? Hi, this is Marab, the Venice video here with Jordan. I just say, he's a good man. I hear with him, he helped me with UFC video games.
Starting point is 02:07:15 I'm in the middle of something, guys. No, it's fine. They know me. I have friends with Aljo and Ariel. I was asking the question, so it's like, we'll call you back later, both. Goodbye. Yo, that guy's Marov was not bad at all. That was a caught us off guard there.
Starting point is 02:07:31 For me, I'm like a newer fan. I was in college when McGregor fought Aldo and like that was one that like everybody was tuned in for I was at a bar for it and I was like man this is this is pretty sick this is pretty sick for me it was not like one fight in particular it was the video of UFC 2 like seeing hoist Gracie just obliterate people I could not believe what was happening there with with the guy in the pajamas just destroying people
Starting point is 02:08:00 and that set me on to like everything else I've, you know, lots of other fighters in fights that, that, um, then, like, solidified my love of it, especially as I've mentioned many times, BJ Penn. Um, but it was UFC two that really, like, kicked it off. Seeing that, that VHS and, like, what hoist was able to do to these dudes, it, it opened my mind for what was possible in fighting. So that was it for me. What's up, boys?
Starting point is 02:08:27 David. What's up, David? I was from Fort Worth, Texas. I was the ultra chart runner that. called y'all yesterday sounds like he's on a run currently running a little baby 6k recovery run beast boy in the morning putting in that work yes sir quick question though for you Connor yes sir since you're running what brand of shoes do you run in now yeah if you answer anything but suck in me you gave me the wrong answer
Starting point is 02:09:02 shocking these best on the market I'll create some shoes if you don't run in them man alright bro got to hit my out too let's go I got work to do
Starting point is 02:09:15 keep killing the games kind of sounded like a knockoff David Gagins that was good shit A little bit yeah I've run in Sokhanes before I don't mind Sokhanes right now I got the
Starting point is 02:09:25 Adidas of the Evo SLSs they look sick They feel good look good feel good run good I'm loving them probably gonna get a couple other color ways a popular shoe in the run club I'm in but that's all right
Starting point is 02:09:40 that's all right shout out through the dacanies in there yeah there's some sockanies there's some sockanies not a big fan of hokas do not like on clouds I've always just been a Nike guy but they don't make the best running shoes but yeah shout out
Starting point is 02:09:54 Adidas ibo sells get in the uncrown group fight day 5K on Saturday let's go Boys, this is Lee from West Palm Beach, Florida. Oh, shout out of the West Palm. I'm actually listening to yesterday's episode with Allied Pinto, Raging Out. And I love it. It's amazing. Maybe we should get out back on the show more frequently.
Starting point is 02:10:19 Yeah, that could be fine. And I look forward to, I think it's Thursday's episode. You guys got two this week. That's amazing. Yeah, a little double up. I really just wanted to call and say that I love the show. and I'm looking forward to this week's episode. All right, guys, thanks, bye.
Starting point is 02:10:32 My man, appreciate you. Thank you, listen. I appreciate you watching. Shout out to West Palm Beach. What's going on, boys? Harry Colling again from Long Island. It's going to give you a lot of shit, G.C., as usual. But I appreciate hearing you repenting for your sins
Starting point is 02:10:50 and that you are now a Long Island fan. Probably because Al-A. Quinto was in Arm's Reach, but whatever. Still counts. All right. Back to business. Questions for everyone that's in studio today. Who's planning on going to the MSG card? I have only ever been to one UFC event, and it was the one at MSG post-COVID.
Starting point is 02:11:19 And I had decent seats. Price was about maybe $350 a seat, and then they've over doubled for, like, nose, leads. So, I ain't going to be there. I'm going to go to the bar with the boys. But what about you guys? What are your plans? Probably here for a watch party.
Starting point is 02:11:37 Yeah, I really want to go to an MSG card. They are great. They have traditionally, like, you know, historically been fantastic. As we talked about earlier, the prices continue to rise. But, yeah, we'll be here. Watch it with us. Forget the bar. Throw that join on the TV.
Starting point is 02:11:53 And then on the second screen, you throw me and GC on there. Go pick up a 24 rack, two pizzas. call your boys over and you got yourself a night. Jordan, I know you were under the weather, but did you have a chance to see the show? Yeah, I watched the show. Oh, for sure, yeah, no doubt. What did you think of Conner's, you know,
Starting point is 02:12:10 change of heart regarding Long Island? I mean, when I drove him to a camera guy, Nick's to go on a shoot one day, he was driving through, he's like, you know what, Long Island? Not so bad. You got people on bikes, he got a beach, what's so bad about it. Oh, no, I remember that. This was Fourth of July weekend. Sun was shining.
Starting point is 02:12:27 People were biking, going to the beach. Like, it was, like, probably the nicest part of Long Island, Atlantic Beach. Like, the way, like, Ally Quinta's eyes lit up when I mentioned it. Yeah. So if that's the tippy top, if that's the peak, I'm just like, yeah, that's so bad. Next time, you just, maybe camera guy Nick will take you over to Sorrentos for a real meal. Shout to Sorrentos. I did have some Sorrentos, actually.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Steak from there, maybe. I can't remember what I have. but it was incredible. All right, so you're back on the side. That's all right. We're good. What up? This is Tyler from Los Angeles.
Starting point is 02:13:05 Who's up, Tyler? I was just watching D.C. and Chale. Talk about the White House card. Yeah. Saying, but even if Connor fights Chandler, that's got to be the Comain. No. And an American has to fight for a belt in the Maine. No.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Of course, then they get into, oh, it's got to be John versus Tom, and you got to have O'Mell. and Gaichy and Harrison. I'm thinking there's a much more obvious matchup. Oh, here we go. Let's say Islam wins. I'm running for my boy, J.D.M., but let's just say Islam wins. Let's just say.
Starting point is 02:13:40 He's got the belt. Who better to fight him than a short, white underdog from Philadelphia, Sean Brady. It's right there. A regular Rocky story, yeah. Against the Russians. Yeah. Oh, against Russian, too. All right.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Find the contract. I buy the way you've sold this, but I don't think that that in any universe could headline over Connor McGregor. Connor will be the main event. The only fight that you could even make a semblance of an argument against it would be John Jones, Tom Aspinall, and even then I would have to imagine
Starting point is 02:14:15 Connor McGregor would still be the main event. Connor will not be on a card where he's not the main event. There's just no world. He's just too big of a draw. It's just like, you can't have Connor McGregor and then be like, yeah, but he's the co-man. Yeah, what? It's just like, Connor McGregor is the name.
Starting point is 02:14:29 Okay, there is one world where he's the co-man. I actually just thought of it. There's one world where he's the co-man. Can you think of what I'm thinking of? There's one reality where that happens. Can you think? Oh, and John Jones? No.
Starting point is 02:14:46 Islam, the family ties are finally severed. Habib come back. Islam versus Habib. Oh, shit. All right. There's two, but that I don't think is real. I mean, of course, it's not real. Um, no, I can't think of one.
Starting point is 02:15:04 Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg. Headline event of the White House card, Connor McGregor co-headline. Elon Musk, Zuckerberg, American versus a South African. Yeah. Sean Strickland. Tech Giants. DDP3, Co-Maine, American versus the South African as well.
Starting point is 02:15:24 Um, but yes, no, Connor McGregor will headline that card if it's on it. and it seems like he's going to be on it. Can you imagine Mark Shapiro, like, I pay $200 million for the co-main so we can make time for this. Yeah. We've been $100 million for the co-main. Brain versus Islam is a fun fight to think about, though. I mean, down the line, I like that fight a lot.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Hey, guys, it's Maven from Toronto. What's up, Maven? First time calling. I just wanted to say that I just finished listening to your podcast episode with Ray Ginald. Hey, shout out. One of your guys' best ones. I love just the conversation,
Starting point is 02:16:03 how it didn't really feel like an interview, but just like he was actually one of the other boys alongside you guys. You guys have been killing a recent and I wanted to give all you guys a shout out. And I was wondering if you guys ever thought about maybe doing like instead of voicemails,
Starting point is 02:16:18 kind of like a live follow. Like, maybe you have a discord server. And during the segment where you only do voicemails, people can queue up, maybe Frank or someone in the back randomly select a caller and they can ask you a question live and you can talk to them in person at the same time
Starting point is 02:16:36 and they can kind of feel like one of the boys. Let me know all your thoughts on this. All right, have a good one. Appreciate the call, appreciate the love. The difficulty with that is trusting that people aren't going to say some wild ass shit on the air. We used to do it on the May hour
Starting point is 02:16:56 and I think we got away with like probably not being prank like my expectations now are way different than they were then we were kind of just like doing it and everybody was pretty well behaved I think now in the modern environment
Starting point is 02:17:11 I don't know if it goes as hard yeah and I'm not talking about someone being like oh fuck you guys that's all right I'm cool with that it's just like saying like real real horrible shit I just I don't know man the internet age combined with MMA
Starting point is 02:17:26 fandom. Well, the idea of like somebody does it just so they could clip it off and put it on social and do the thing. Like there's too many like pitfalls there. It's like C-SPAN. Yeah. C-SPAN used to take calls. I mean, when I worked at ESPN Radio Halwani would do a pre-paper-view
Starting point is 02:17:41 radio show and like he would accept callers for that and people would call in and like you know, drinks are flowing prelims are getting ready to get started and on ESPN radio of course like it's FCC regulated. You can't cuss at all. And we had a dump button and it would be 10 seconds like you dump it 10 seconds would get cut out and everything like
Starting point is 02:18:00 that but each time you dumped it would like lessen because the system's having to like make up for the time and after like three or four would be completely gone and you would just go through it so fast on i want to show to where you were like couldn't dump it anymore and then cussing was getting out over the air uh incredibly stressful job for the uh for the board ops that that had to operate that and uh yeah yeah so like even like i would take a lot of the calls and i'd be like Oh, yeah, when you come on, you cannot cuss. Do not cuss, please. And then they'd get on and be like,
Starting point is 02:18:29 what the fuck is up, I wanty? Yeah. Were you guys on a delay at all? Yeah, you were on the delay, but each time you hit dump, the delay would decrease until you were completely used up of the delay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:41 It's just not feasible at the moment. We would love to do it. I think maybe more realistically is like, what if we just did like a separate thing? Like one time we did that like Q&A with the fans, we could do something like that if you wanted to do a live interaction. So maybe we'll think about some way to do that. But I don't think it can be like built
Starting point is 02:18:59 into the show at the moment. Plus like I'm just going to have a hard time not laughing at like people saying ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, boys. Double D. Yes. Yeah, Don. Come on. It's not going to happen. John Martin's coming for your neck. It's the usual time Thursday
Starting point is 02:19:17 and so the Friday. Anyway, big news for the PFL this week. For a change, you heard it from someone other than me. new CEO, John Martin. Oh. announcing historically the PFL crown champions through its season or tournament format where the winner held the title for that year. And he says he recognized this can create some confusion about who truly sat atop each division.
Starting point is 02:19:40 I don't know about that. That confusion grew, geez. When the PFL and Beltor merged, great decision. Don't agree with that. Bringing in not only tournament champions, but also legacy Beltor champions who defended their belts, leaving fans unclear on who the definitive champion in each weight class was. Okay. We're now simplifying our championship system.
Starting point is 02:20:02 Going forward, each division will have one PFL world champion, the single undisputed title holder in that weight class. So there you go. We listen. Upcoming fights, Oosman de Maghemadov versus Paul Hughes, too. Porte Anderson versus Doblet. Muradov. I said it twice
Starting point is 02:20:25 today, Don. Of course. Yachtramirado. And Benin Mkov versus Hennon Ferreira for the PFL heavyweight world championship. And of course,
Starting point is 02:20:33 Chris Iborg versus Sarah Collins. And no. Francis is not going to defend his one-time super fight belt. That is as clear as day. And the only thing I think that is confusing
Starting point is 02:20:47 and unfortunate about this is this announcement, which again, not made by me, but you know, we roll with it. He didn't address how this impacts mailman affliction. And the debut of male man affliction this Saturday on the heels of PFL Nante.
Starting point is 02:21:07 Unfortunately, you know what this means. The regional MMA format for male man affliction is going away. So we are efforting to figure out what to do with this card, All of the amazing male men fighters are going to have to go back to their roots and we will circle back with what we decide to do for the unified, worldwide, undisputed male man affliction belts. That's all I got. Frank, you excited for Silent Hill F? Take it easy, boys. Talk to you next time. I know it.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Now, I'm sorry. Okay. I tried to do what I could. I truly feel bad that we hoodwings deal like. that. And that's all I got. Take care. That's in reference to saying he was going to sign his boy Beethoven. But I think we're locked in on Beethoven. We're DMing with him on IG. Maybe get a couple shirts in and just follow his career. Man, great call from Don, as always. I did feel a certain type of way when we saw John Martin up there. But I did too. Okay, here's the question,
Starting point is 02:22:17 though. I felt a certain type of way. And then my brain immediately went to when do we start get no when do we start getting calls from john john martin when does john martin start calling the show we are the official pfl newsbreak we are the we are the official and LFA as well and that and thanks to uh Daniel for breaking that LFA news you've been known to break some elephant um yeah shut out Don Don is just a legend of the game shout to a male man affliction as well male man affliction that's all the voicemails all right we got any super chats thanks for all the calls thank you we do have some Are we going to...
Starting point is 02:22:53 What up, your beauties? Oh, okay. Hey, appreciate that, Del Red. Any thought on the Don Davis voicemail offering Al's teammate a spot in PFL? They're a bit awkward on the reveal, yeah? L-O-L. We just addressed this five seconds ago.
Starting point is 02:23:08 Like, I could see, like, the glimmer in Al's eyes. Like, there was a little twinkle. He was like, oh. And they were like... It's not actually... Don Davis. But as Connor said, like, I think he followed me on Instagram. I'm sure he followed you.
Starting point is 02:23:20 Oh, yeah. Al asked me to get in touch with him so I think we'll figure out a way to make good on that but not for nothing like now he's getting he's getting love on the boys in the back two weeks in a row so shout out to
Starting point is 02:23:34 Beethoven shout out to Tommy so we'll see how his career goes he's 1 and 0 and it seems like according to Al like he's one of the guys at the gym that they're looking at is like a big time prospect so we'll see how that keeps going for him and thank you for the $10 we'll put it to good use
Starting point is 02:23:51 So, fam, sending weekly aid for mysterious, Frank, buy a dictionary. Why buy a dictionary? What if Frank can't read? I can't read. I don't know if that's going to help him because he's not going to be able to read it. Can you get a dictionary for $10? Frank communicates through sound bites the way Bumblebee from Transformers communicates through radio. He's our bumblebee.
Starting point is 02:24:11 I get that. I like that. The drops are communication. Just saw the pound for pound list. No. Wow. Wow, that's a fucking great call. Eve St. Laurent.
Starting point is 02:24:24 Yeah, YSL, that's a fucking great call. That's a powerful name. Eves in itself is a sick name, and then it's St. Laurent. Are you kidding me? Yeah. So which mattered more when you were thinking about it? Like the person, the name, or it was like it had to be combo?
Starting point is 02:24:39 So, like, to me, Daniel Day Lewis is, like, Alita the Alita the Elite. Yeah. He only has, like, 29 movie credits to his name, three Oscars. Yeah. His hit rate is like, are you kidding me? 10% of the movies he's in, he wins best actor. Like, are you shitting me? He's like, the elite.
Starting point is 02:24:54 But, like, Daniel Day Lewis doesn't go as hard as Philip Seymour Hoffman. By the way, I mean, acting-wise, like, pretty comparable. Philip was two elite actors that don't get the appreciation. They're not like the Hollywood superstars. Well, I mean, Daniel Day is definitely revered and, like, looked up in that category. But honestly, I'm putting Phillips Seymour Hoffman up there. He's fucking, he was. Might be one, too.
Starting point is 02:25:18 Might be one, two of this generation, legends. He was amazing. Legends. Yeah, that and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, that name goes stupid hard. Each individual, Wolfgang, hard. Amadeus, hard. Mozart, hard.
Starting point is 02:25:33 All three are... How did Bach beat him out? I feel like a solo... And then the movie about him is called Amadeus. And then in the last name, obviously, everyone knows. So the thing is, like, it doesn't flow as well. Wolfgang, Amadeus, Mozart. It's almost like three individuals.
Starting point is 02:25:48 individual. Johann Sebastian Bach flows like a serene river. It's like Johan Sebastian Bach. It's just like, oh, here he comes. JSB in the house. Johan, Sebastian, Bach, everybody. Give it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:08 Legend. That was all of them. Oh, all right. Oh, there's one more. Who's winning the Ryder Cup? Team USA. I don't know anything about that. The bang happening this weekend at Bethpage, yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:21 Yes. This is a golf tournament? This is like... It is a Europe versus American golf competition. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Happening out on Long Island, Bethpage Black, Black course. The hardest one there, home to many majors. Last one being PGA Championship in 2019, which I was in attendance at.
Starting point is 02:26:40 I've also played it myself, hopped on the old links, parted the first hole. It was unbelievable. I was like, maybe I'm cut out for this. Didn't get a single more par or birdie for the rest of the day. You got to walk it yourself. There's like a sign that's like warning. You are now entering the black course. Like this is only for skilled advanced golfers.
Starting point is 02:26:59 I am not that. The rough is about yay high. But yeah, it should be a great weekend. Crowd goes nuts. And it's like a big like America versus Europe. I saw an article earlier today from like a Long Island like news outlet where they were saying people were renting their houses for crazy amounts of money. Bro. for people coming to town.
Starting point is 02:27:20 People do that for like the Masters every year. Like I had a bunch of friends that I went to school with that would rent out their houses for the Masters that lived in Augusta for like crazy money. There's expected to be like 200,000 people in that area this weekend just from this tournament. And tickets are insane. I wanted to go.
Starting point is 02:27:41 Cheapest ticket to get in tomorrow, $897. Cheapest ticket to get in on Saturday. 1,013. This is on resale on Tick Pick right now and cheapest to get in on Sunday is 685. I mean, I was going to say
Starting point is 02:27:55 who can afford this but then I'm thinking about the golf audience. I bet there's quite a few people who can afford to come in front of this. But when are we going to get back to the days of concerts, sporting events,
Starting point is 02:28:06 anything, being accessible to like a common person. Also, not for nothing. Like, Rider Cup is sick and everything, but golf is not the best fan. experience. I've been to, I've been to the U.S. Open. I've been to the PGA Championship twice. I've been to the Masters, FedEx Cup, Travelers. Waste Management. Been to like a dozen golf tournaments. Love golf. It's like in terms of fan experience. The live experience is not that great. It's a bunch of
Starting point is 02:28:34 just sitting and drinking, dude. When I went to the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach me and my boys camped on 18 all day. Got there, had to get there at like 9 a.m. to get a seat. You just kind of sit and drink for a while and wait for people to come through. Same thing with waste management on 16. And then like, rider cup bro the tournament could end on like any random hole because it's match play uh so like you could just be on the wrong hole and the tournament ends and like you just missed it it's it's yeah i don't know man i'm i'm getting disheartened by like how craven the like i saw a quote from one of the executives a ticket master talking about i believe it actually i'm not 100 no it was that live nation at live nation talking about like ticket prices and i'm just like they said we don't charge enough
Starting point is 02:29:16 Yeah, we should charge more. People view it as a badge of honor to pay $2,000 for Beyonce tickets. Like what? I always said, I paid $350 to see Georgia end its 40-year national championship drought. $350, that is like the game of all games for me to go to. So I'm always playing comparison now where it's just like, I paid $350 to see like my dream game and the dream outcome happen. How am I going to pay fucking $897 to go watch a golf tournament? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:44 How am I paying $700 to watch this Perth UFC card? Oh, right? How am I paying $700 for a Jamie Mularky co-main event or Jimmy Kruke co-main event? Like, get the fuck out. Yeah, that's scary times, man. It's a weird time. I wonder if we'll have a return to norm. The thing that gives me the hope is even like the fast food restaurants, even McDonald's is like,
Starting point is 02:30:05 all right, we may have gotten a little out of pocket with like $20 value meals. Like, we're going to bring that Big Mac to $8. So you ask, like, when is it going to stop? It stops when people stop buying it. Yeah. Well, they'll find that threshold and then what they'll do. So they'll go up to that number and then they'll be like, oh, people stop buying it at this price and then they'll reduce it 10% and then they're back in business. It's a crazy time.
Starting point is 02:30:26 But I do hope that, you know, specific to our audience and specific to what we do that MMA fans are getting in the building on these cards because it's getting crazy out there. Ryan William Smith in the chat says, Galf or Foyt, you only get one. I think he's saying choose what's going to call for fighting. I'm taking fighting for sure I love golf but like I really only watch now in my fandom I really only watch the four majors whereas which would you rather
Starting point is 02:30:52 do golf golf is one of the most enjoyable things love it get the boys out there sneak in an 18 pack of beer 18 holes sneak you're not allowed to have it certain courses that you can drink those courses don't like oh really yeah you got to
Starting point is 02:31:08 you got to do the car girls all right I think that'll do it for us, UFC Perth going down this weekend. Don't forget to turn in, tune in to the crack. Tomorrow, Pizza Carol, getting you set and ready to go for a big weekend ahead. And then next week, back to your regular scheduled programming. Three days at the Hellwanty show, boys in the back Thursday, crack on Friday. You got PFL. You got Bear Knuckle. You got UFC 320. We are back, baby.
Starting point is 02:31:39 Thanks so much for tuning in. Until next week. See you.

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