The Ariel Helwani Show - Dana White teases new Meta rankings, Emmett vs. Murphy preview, PFL season begins | The Boys in the Back | April 3, 2025

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

The Boys in the Back react to announcements of the UFC 316 main and co-main event, plus Ian Machado Garry vs. Carlos Prates (02:26).Then, they discuss UFC's new technology partnership with Meta – including Dana White's tease of brand new rankings (28:36).Next, they preview UFC Vegas 105 (54:47), headlined by Josh Emmett vs. Lerone Murphy, and the first event of the PFL season (1:21:12).Finally, they make picks (1:40:19), give their P4P ride rankings (1:44:22), and answer your questions (2:11:54).EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/uncrowned Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee.

B-b-b-b-boys in the back. B-b-b-boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. What is good? We are back with another episode of The Boys in the Back. I am one half of the boys in the back. Connor Burks, join alongside me. As always, my man, the pose, the myth, the legend. We gotta build a statue outside of Uncrowned Studios

of New Yorker, just like this. I mean, it's become the pose of the legend. We got to build a statue outside of Uncrowned Studios of New York, Rick, just like this. I mean, it's become the pose of the man, of the people, Mr. New York Rick. It is a dreary, dreary April day here in New York City. Foggy. Yeah, foggy. The Empire State Building has completely disappeared behind us. Gone. No sun in sight. I checked the weather for the weekend, I was like, man, you know what kind of a light weekend, not a ton to do, work-wise, apex card, everything like that?

It's terrible, it's gonna rain pretty much every day while we're here, but that's all right, that's all right. Last Friday or Saturday, one of them, it was like 70 degrees. Yeah. And then since then it's been horrible. Yeah, but that's all right, I'd rather have like kind of warm dreariness than just like ice cold darkness. Fair enough. Which is what we came from.

Yeah we're rolling into better days. We are rolling into better days. Next week UFC 314. But we'll talk about that next week. That is for next week's show. This week's show we got UFC Apex 105. We got PFL kicking off all their tournaments this evening down in Orlando Universal Studios, right? That's right. How many theme parks are in Orlando? Well, the big ones are Orlando and Disney. Okay, so it's just Universal and Disney.

Let's, sorry, I said Orlando, I meant Universal. Let's check in with resident expert Andy. Oh yeah, we have our uncrowned Orlando expert Andy. What was the question? How many theme parks are in Orlando? Is there anything beyond Universal and Disney? Yeah, I don't know if it's down now, but Holy Land Experience was a thing.

Holy Land Experience. Yeah, yeah, I'm serious. Is that like a religious theme park? Is that like a biblical? Yeah. Okay. That's a real place. Is there a Busch Gardens in Orlando?

Tampa. Tampa, shout out to Busch Gardens. Shout out to Six Flags. We'll talk about theme parks. We'll talk about our pound, we'll talk about our pound for pound top five theme park rides later on in honor of PFL kicking off their season at one Universal Studios later in the show.

And UFC Apex 105, PFL, what else we got going on this weekend? I think there's a one card. I think there's a one card, I don't know. There's a lot of mixed martial arts going on, but we will dive in mostly into the UFC card and the PFL card. Let's start the show.

We talked about it a little bit on the Ariel Hauwani show yesterday, but we got three new fights. Two main events, one co-main event, two on a pay-per-view card in June in Newark, New Jersey, one being the main event of UFC Kansas City. Let's start with the Kansas City one since it's happening soonest. Okay.

Ian Gary steps in to take on Carlos Proches. Carlos Proches is supposed to fight next week in Miami against Jeff Neal. Unfortunately, Jeff Neal couldn't fight, so Carlos Proches gets a main event of a fight night at UFC Kansas City against one Ian Gary. And for me, like, the upside, big balls, huge respect to Ian Gary for stepping in.

All the upside here for me is Carlos Prochez. He's getting a main event on a fight night in front of a crowd. He's getting a top 10 opponent, a name in Ian Gary whether you like him or not, he is a name. And if he can go out there and knock out Ian Gary, the rocket ship just continues

to just push forward to the moon. Yeah, it does feel though, I will say, I talked about when we were talking about this on the Ariel Hawhani show, I was talking about like, maybe it's an unnecessary risk for Ian Gary, because I think he could have been in a conversation to have a number one contender fight next, just based on the performance he had

against Shavkat Rachmanov. But I almost feel like there's a no lose situation on the table here where no matter who wins this, they're gonna be, you this, they're going to be on a rocket ship. But the loser, I don't think falls too far, right? For Proches, it's a big step up. Ian Gary is now a top level guy and he's entering a level of competition that he has not seen previously. And for Gary, you're stepping in on short notice, you're saving a card, you kind of have some padding built in, right,

to soften the landing if you do lose this fight. I think it's going to be a great fight, and I really feel like it's like a no-lose situation for both so they can put it on the line and just see what happens. I'm pretty excited about this one. Oh, I'm very excited. I do worry that because of Carlos Proches striking and his ability to knock people out, that he and Gary will fight the smart fight and probably look to the grappling and like that could not be as fan friendly as we've seen with Carlos Proches most recent fights,

but then there's a world where that doesn't happen and it's a six striking battle and maybe someone gets finished or it's just an exciting five round war. But either way, the intrigue alone beyond how the fight actually plays out itself is, I can't wait for it. Yeah, they're two pretty interesting personalities. I think they're going to be a little bit,

I wonder if they're going to get chirpy. I doubt it. I feel like there's probably going to be some respect. Carlos Proches doesn't really feel like the guy that would be crazy if he and Gary starts chirping him in Portuguese. Oh yeah, actually that's a great call. They get up there and they're just talking mad him in Portuguese. Oh yeah, actually, that's a great call. They get up there and they're just talking mad shit in Portuguese. I wonder, have we ever seen Carlos Pratchett

really get upset or lose his temper? He seems very happy-go-lucky. He's just kinda- I just can't imagine he's going to be like that. I mean, you just relaxes, smokes a cig. He doesn't get his blood pressure too high. He keeps it low-key. Well, the blood pressure might be high from the cigarettes.

That's another point that we don't have to get into. Co-main event, UFC 316, Newark, New Jersey, Julianna Pena, the champion, the reigning, defending, Bantamweight champion of the world, taking on Kayla Harrison, the Olympic gold medalist in her third UFC fight now gets the title shot. Great co-main event. This fight has to happen.

This fight can lead to bigger fights. I think I personally want to see the winner of this fight take on Amanda Nunez in a return fight for her, whether it's Pena three or we finally get the Kayla Harrison, Amanda Nunez. Former teammates. Yeah.

Zhang and Valentina and this fight are the two women's fights that I'm like, yes, these are the ones I'm looking forward to most in the year if we if we and this one is done signed sealed delivered you're getting it in Newark later this year if Zhang and Valentina get signed that's the other one that I kind of had but heading into the year you can't ask for a better fight than this this is going to solve a lot of things at bantamweight we're gonna know ultimately hey painer retains wow that Amanda Nunes trilogy now

has some real steam behind it. Or we get the upcoming reign of Kayla Harrison, and then all of a sudden it's Amanda Nunes versus Kayla Harrison builds up some steam. Even if it's not the next one, even if Nunes versus Kayla Harrison or Nunes versus Peña is not next, you at least open the door for that. I feel like that door is only ajar right now.

I think we need to really open it up. And a performance here is going to open it door for that. I feel like that door is only a jar right now. I think we need to like really open it up and a performance here is gonna open it up for the winner. Yeah, we mentioned it yesterday on the Ariel Hauwani show, Kayla Harrison minus 600. Are you surprised by that number? I think minus 600 is pretty massive. I don't know if- It's pretty wide. Especially with like the last time Kayla Harrison

went out there against Ketlin Viera, It wasn't like she blew her doors off. I agree with that like because we're used to seeing Kayla Harrison basically go in there and maul people but I do think and and maybe this is you know just hindsight but I do think there's a little bit of revisionist history happening in the sense that like Katelyn Viera is a top top top contender in that division like to be in your second UFC fight and to beat her hand elite like happening in the sense that like, Ketlin Viera is a top, top, top contender in that division. Like to be in your second UFC fight and to beat her hand elite, like I'm okay with that being the performance. I don't think you can go in there and blow the doors off every single

person you face in your entire career. I left more impressed than unimpressed with Kayla Harrison's performance. I know people want to see the ronderousy like Judo throw them and take their arm in 12 seconds But ultimately like Kayla Harrison is very young in this game still to to dismantle Ketlin Viera in your second UFC fight I was kind of more impressed than less also also make the argument the I think the market has adjusted a little bit she was Minus-1100 versus oh, yeah. Oh, it's come Sierra. It's coming from the minus six. That's ridiculous. Okay, here's how I truly feel about the minus 600. We were talking about

yesterday, we were trying to think, has there ever been a champion who is that big a dog and a challenger who's that big a favorite heading into a fight? The ones that inevitably come to mind are always going to be rematches, right? Because there are some opportunities like with Matt Serra, right? Matt Serra upsets GSP, people go, I don't believe it, GSP is going to be rematches right because there's some opportunities like with Matt Serra right Matt Serra upsets GSP people go I don't believe it GSP is gonna win the second fight he inevitably does. Julianna Pena upsets

Amanda Nunes people go I don't believe it she's gonna win the second fight Amanda Nunes is a favorite in that one ultimately Amanda did win that fight. One where the same outcome did happen is Frankie Edgar Egger beats BJ Penn in the first fight. By the way, there's an asterisk on this. He absolutely did not beat BJ Penn in the first fight. He lost that fight, BJ Penn won that fight. In the second fight, BJ Penn was a big favorite again. People thinking what I was thinking,

which was he won that first fight. Frankie beats him again. Frankie shows, okay, actually that wasn't a fluke. I'm gonna be the guy, and then has this magical kind of run at lightweight and underrated guy, Frankie Eggers the man. But often times it's kind of like this feeling of like a market correction, it's like,

we didn't believe the first result, we need to see it again. Correct. This one is not. This one is completely fresh challenger, outside promotion is coming in, and is a minus 600 favorite against the champion of the UFC. And even the GSP Matt Serra to fight GSP was only minus

450. Yeah I'm saying there was I haven't been able to find one better. No one's tweeted at us or anything? Well the only one I was able to find was Nico Montano Montano was the the flyweight champion of the UFC because she had won the tough season. Okay. And Valentina Shevchenko was scheduled to face her and was like minus 1200 or something in that fight. Minus 1300.

And now that fight never happened. That fight never happened. So we ultimately did not get that fight and that, you know, this line is irrelevant because that fight never materialized, but that's the only example that I can think of that was bigger than this. So this is a lot of respect given to Kayla Harrison, whether it's disrespect to Juliana Pena, I guess remains to be seen, right? Ultimately.

Oh, it's disrespect to the champ. She is the reigning champion has beaten Amanda Brunas. You know where our loyalties lie. Oh, okay. If you're asking my opinion, that's a different story. Shout out to our girl, Juliana. That's a different story. Shout out to our girl Juliana. But truly, for a champion to be a huge underdog in this way and the challenger who at this point only has two UFC wins,

it is a shocking line. But at the same time, I imagine that there are gonna be a lot of people who feel there's value on their line and say, yeah, I'm taking it. And then there's gonna be a lot of people who are like, value on their line and say, yeah, I'm taking it. And then there's gonna be a lot of people who are like, this one's off, you gotta bet on the experience, Juliano Pena's been in there, beat Amanda Nunes, let's see what you can do.

Listen, everybody's worried about the economy, they're worried about tariffs this, tariffs that. Oh, you're about to give out something? What's going on with the stock market? What if I could promise you 450% ROI? Ha ha ha ha ha. It's a little fight going down in Newark, New Jersey. Julianna Pena taking on Kayla Harrison.

No, I get it. Bet the farm on Julianna Pena says Connor Burks. No, no, I did not say that. We'll have to find out come UFC 316 Fight Week early June. It's a fantastic fight. Oh yeah. The buildup is also gonna be great. I mean, Ariel talked about it yesterday,

the press conference that they did when it was 307. What was the fight? I forget which event it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 307, the one in Salt Lake City when they were both on the card. When they were both on the card and they were at the press conference and they're chirping at each other.

And even before Kayla was in the UFC, Juliana kept talking about Kayla Harrison. It's like, she really wants to come over here and test herself against the actual best fighters. She's fighting trash cans and PFO. She's fighting bums and PFO. This is gonna get testy, it's gonna get heated, and Juliana Pena's the best woman on the mic,

in my opinion, at the moment. I know opinions may vary on that, right? Some love it, some don't. By the way, that's kind of good. That's by design. I think she's the best. I think she's the best at like generating attention in that way.

And Kayla Harrison will engage in shit talk. Kayla Harrison is a two time Olympic gold medalist who's not gonna just be intimidated by like somebody hopping on the mic. So we're gonna get a head to head collision here one way or another and I'm very excited about it. It's gonna be great. I can't wait for it.

Main event of that one, Maradou Alashvili, taking on Sean O'Malley in a rematch from UFC 306 at the Sphere last year. Sean O'Malley doesn't take any fights in between but gets the rematch and he actually went on his podcast and his YouTube channel and with his coach Tim Welch and he had this to say in terms of how the rematch is going to go differently. My groin kept me up at night because I tore my labrum ten weeks before the fight, which is what we're at from the fight right now. I tore my groin, my labrum, and I was having groin, like serious groin pain. It was just super. It wasn't ideal. I was able to train, I was able to tough through it. But obviously it's not ideal to go into a fight especially

Against a fucking murderer. Well, not necessarily a murder but a stud like marab an absolute just machine I think names the machine for a reason But all my journal entries were every single day I was just like updating on my groin my groin feels decent today Well, my groin hurts real bad today and I was like thinking about how good I feel right now. I was like, oh I want to jinx it. But dude if I can just keep this pace up, how we've been able to train these last few weeks, all the way up into the fight, I'm going to feel I'm going to be 70% better than I was in that first fight.

I'm going to be significantly more mobile, agile, better shape. Just I'm gonna fight at my full potential. Towards that last fight, I was very happy with how I was able to perform considering how I felt. It wasn't ideal, the outcome, I didn't win, but I also think I wasn't supposed to win. I was supposed, this rematch was supposed to happen. All right, so in terms of the fight itself,

do you take what O'Malley is saying at face value? Essentially, he will be helped here, he will be in better shape, and the fight will go differently this time. Yeah, I absolutely do. He's doing a bit of wrestling, a pro wrestling. There's some kayfabe there and there's some truth there. I think on the kayfabe side is him throwing out like I'll be 70% better. Like you know famously Kamaru Usman said like

after a championship fight like or maybe it was pre-championship like I was only 30% in there and now he was talking maybe about like health and things like that not necessarily motivation. But I don't buy that we're gonna like if that was 30% Toronto Mali. He's gonna be two times better than that he like I don't buy that and so um That part is the kayfabe part the part about like every day in training for a guy That he called at first a murderer and then was like a machine in Marab to Valashvili if you're hurt at all It is not gonna be fun to fight Marab. Like just point blank period. You have to be at your absolute best and I believe him 100% that he was not at his absolute best

in that fight. And so I'm compelled by the idea that the best version of Sean O'Malley, if he can stay healthy during camp, will step in there. And now by the way, he's going to say leading up to it that he's the best version of himself. Who knows? He may have another injury by that time. Like I don't want to jinx it, knock on wood, but like he's going to go in there and fight no matter what, as he did the first time, right? He knew that that was one of the biggest fights of his life. He knew how hard a test, uh, Murad Diwajfili was, and he went in there at quote unquote 30%.

Well, also like he did against Al Juman. And as he's done, he's done it in the past. He's a gamer. He's going to show up. So who knows how healthy he'll ultimately be by fight time. If we get a more healthy or the healthiest version we get of Sean O'Malley, I am more compelled by the matchup. I think it will be interesting. Do I ultimately though think Marab versus any version of Sean O'Malley,

that Sean O'Malley is better than Marab? I don't. I don't see how stylistically he will be better than Marab DiVallosvili, no matter what his health status is at. I will, I will pick Marabdavollah in that fight, no matter what version you get. Yeah. I really have to think, especially what we saw Marabdavollah do to Umar.

Sean O'Malley has to hurt Marabdavollah. That is, that is his key to winning. He's not going to be able to just stand there and out point them, stuff the takedowns and pick them apart on the feet or use grappling of his own. I think he has to hurt Murab, get him wobbled. And he's capable. Yeah, of course, man.

We've seen him get big knockouts. That's how he won the championship against Al Jermain Sterling. The knee that he landed on, Marlon Chito Verra, puts out 99% of human beings on this earth. But I think he has to hurt Murab to get it done. He has to. Do you think he can? Of course, of course, anyone can.

But is it like a puncher's chance or is it? I don't think it's a puncher's chance. I don't think it's that small. I don't think it's just like, that's all he's got. I just think that is the path. I think it'll look like Marab is winning the fight again until he isn't and he's hurt. I will never, especially a guy of Sean O'Malley's level

of his skill, I will never be like, he has no chance. But the way Marab has been looking lately, it's tough to give him too big of a chance. It's hard to favor anybody against Marab, and we were kind of saying this in the lead up. I don't know, I was big on Marab heading into the O'Malley fight, I feel like if I'm remembering correctly, you were a little more conflicted.

You didn't know which way to necessarily go on that one, like you were a little split. I said Sean would hurt him to necessarily go on that one. Like you were a little split. I said Sean would hurt him. Yeah. I was wrong. But you were also, I feel like, in the sphere. God, Murab is unstoppable. Yeah.

You were kind of conflicted on both sides of that. I think when we were heading into the Umar fight, we were both like. It has to be Murab. Murab. How could it not be Murab? The style that we've seen from him, I continue to say, I don't think he's a puzzle that I've seen anybody

with the skill set to solve yet. There will be somebody who can solve that skill set. I don't think he's a puzzle that I've seen anybody with the skill set to solve yet There will be somebody who can solve that skill set. I haven't seen it yet Umar came pretty close in the first two rounds. It looked like he was doing pretty well Obviously he got hurt, but the game plan was there potentially Marab is Marab is extremely difficult man And the hardest part of it is you're in round three feeling like you did great your umar and Armaga Madov and you're like Holy shit I'm doing pretty good here and all of a sudden rounds three through five

just become a freight train coming through. And Marab is unstoppable. And does the health even matter for Marab? That's the thing. He blows his calf open with a cut, like just like, it feels like he could have a bad back going into the fight. He wouldn't care.

Like it's swollen elbow staff. It just like feels like it doesn't matter. If the cardio is there and the cardio is always there, you're in big trouble because as I've said about his style. He doesn't need to take down Sean O'Malley I think there's this misconception and and it will be like Marab is gonna like a lay and pray Marab is never lay and pray never like that is not his style His style is to spam take downs. He's gonna take you down You might get back up two seconds later

But he's gonna take you down again And then you might get back up and he's gonna take you down again and take you down again and take you down again or maybe he's not even gonna take you down he's gonna dip low shoot for a take down you stuff it he's coming back over the top of punches he's just so busy there's nobody that keeps the rate and the pace and the pressure that he keeps he doesn't need to take down Sean O'Malley to win that fight he will be busier than Sean O'Malley who is a high-volume striker by nature.

In this fight, I imagine that won't serve him well and he will have to hunt that shot that you're talking about. He'll have to really try to hurt him with like maybe a kick on the way in, something to the something to the head or to the body, really put Marab down. He hurt him in the in the first fight with a shot to the body or just put him on the end of a counter that he doesn't see coming. The problem with that strategy though is now you're waiting for that kind of like one shot and it's a it's a tough style. If anybody can do it in this division I guess he's probably the guy right? I don't know if the guy like if

Umar trying to match Marab style is the path to victory I don't kind of see that because I don't think you can out Murab Murab. But Sean O'Malley landing a really nice counter on the way in, maybe an uppercut on Murab shooting, I could see something like that happening. I just can't bank on it. I'm gonna bank on the cardio machine being able to execute the game plan

that we've seen him execute now, every single fight that he's been in the UFC. It's gonna be fascinating to watch. And you have a theory that if Shawn O'Malley loses this, you think the best course of action is to go to 145. No doubt, no doubt. I mean, we just saw the champion, Iliya Toporia move up to 55.

There's a lot of like opportunity for fresh blood to come in at 45. I think his frame definitely looks like it can be, you know, a featherweight frame. He's one of the bigger bantam weights. I would see no reason that he couldn't step in there at 45 and have some really like kind of exciting Matchups right away rather than you go back to the grind and maybe you're fighting the winner of figure eight over says Corey Sandhagen like is that gonna like

Thrill you if you're Sean O'Malley is that gonna be the one that shit marab got me twice. What am I gonna do now? I'm gonna go back and fight a killer, potentially in Corey Zanhigun or Davidson Figueredo, and then I'm still far away from the title. I just pack it up and go up to 45, start putting on some size and get some exciting fights in. Yeah, I'm very intrigued to see what happens with Sean O'Malley if he loses this fight.

You have to think the star power kinda starts taking a hit, the meteoric rise up through the ranks, obviously the one loss to Chito Vera being the injury and then getting it back in a title defense and everything like that. But now if you lose two in a row to a guy that's just reigning over this division. Now, if he wins this, he'll have 13 straight wins,

which will be like a top seven win streak of all time in UFC history. Like really starting to put together an insane resume. And it's hard to imagine that you get another title shot against the guy that who knows how long he'll be there for. It's just like, there's no telling when the rain will end. If Maraub loses, they have to do the trilogy, right? I think so.

Is there any way they screw him over and it's like, ah, it's the Sean O'Malley era again, we're back to it. I think they would, cause I think at that point then it's just like, oh, Sean can beat this guy. Let's do it one more time. Yeah, I would hope so. Plus like, I feel like, especially with these fights, there's so many eyes on Sean O'Malley fights,

the Marab star power just continues to grow. That's true. He's getting a little bit of the rub from that too. So yeah, I'd like that. Winning is the best route to fans. Yeah. Keep winning, you're gonna keep getting fans. One last practice I wanted to put into place here

before we move on from the fights. International Fight Week, still looming. We know 314, obviously that's set, that's next week. We know 315, that's next month in Montreal. We know 316 now happening in Newark, New Jersey. The next time we get one of those, Dana White's going live on Instagram, baby. What's up, guys?

I would imagine it's going to be for 317 International Fight Week. We know essentially nothing about this card. Going through the divisions, main event of that card, I do not think it will be women's straw weight or women's fly weight main eventing that. Women's bantam weight is gonna be happening at the pay-per-view before it.

I don't think men's fly weight is going to main event. I don't think they can do international fight week main event and Kojo kick AF. Could absolutely be a co-main, so could the women's fly weight, which I guess is happening at 315, so that's probably out too. Women's straw, probably not. So let's say fly weight could be co-main. Bantam guess is happening at 315. So that's probably out too. Women's draw, probably not.

So let's say flyweight could be coming. Bandum weight is booked for 316. Featherweight is booked for 314. Lightweight open. Lightweight is a strong contender for an international flyweight. Welterweight booked for 315. Middleweight open.

DDP fought in January? Oh boy. February? I mean, a long enough time has passed to where he could potentially be doing a title defense. Almsot Shumayev, can he fight in the country? I'm not sure. I guess that's something we'll have to find out.

Light heavyweight just happened last pay-per-view 313. They've been throwing August out there, or at least Magomed has been throwing August. Oh, actually no, Alex told Ariel he'd like to come back in August as well. So August seems to have been thrown out there. Like late June just feels like a little bit too soon. Pleno also was like, I'd like to see him take some time off,

kind of chill a little bit. Yeah, Alex's prior time off is like two weeks. Yeah, exactly. So I feel like light heavyweights out, like maybe put an asterisk on like, if they gotta call in the man to save the card, pull up the Shama phone and make it happen, but I don't think it does.

And then heavyweight, Tom versus John, doubt that's happening in International Fight Week, feel like almost like 99% that is not happening. Yeah, that feels like its own kind of thing. Yeah. I mean, if it was January and we're talking about this, I'd be like, man, that could be a great International Fight Week headliner.

You do Tom versus John, the eyes of the world are on you. It's getting too close now. We're into April, that feels like you're not getting John Jones on this short of a turnaround. To me, it feels like an MSG card would fit it properly. 100%. Especially with John talking about this six month training camp he needs, yada, yada, yada.

They still gotta finish all the negotiations, everything like that. So that leaves us lightweight and middleweight. Oh boy. I'm good with either of those depending on what matchups we get. I feel like there's three to be made. Okay.

DDP versus Hamsat Shamiyaf. Easy. Fantastic International Fight Week headliner. Get Hamsat a visa, let's go. Islam versus Ilya, fantastic International Fight Week headliner. Islam versus Charles. Islam Charles, okay.

Let me throw out one more for you. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you be open? I'm open to anything. Would you be open to Charles versus Ilya? Would you be open to that? In like a number one contender fight. Number one contender fight because I get the sense

that the UFC wants to see what happens and Islam Makachev probably wants to see what happens in the welterweight title fight if Bilal is no longer champion I do feel like Islam Makachev has a strong claim to be made to I'm gonna give two featherweights I've given Alex Volkonovsky two opportunities at the belt, and now you would ask me to give Ilya Toporya coming up from featherweight an opportunity at the belt now. That'd be three featherweights at this point

that I've given an opportunity to. What about my opportunity? You're saying JDM wins the belt in Montreal at UFC 315 and then that makes Islam vacate and now he's moving up to fight JDM? Maybe not vacate, maybe he still holds it, I don't know. Unfortunately, I have no idea what the precedent is in terms of holding or not holding a belt

in the UFC anymore. Ilya Toporya has to give up a belt, goes up to lightweight. John Jones holds a belt for a lifetime, Tom Aspinall sitting over here as an inter, like- About to become the longest tenured interim champion. There's no rhyme or reason to this holding a belt thing. Okay, so Charles Ilya interim BMF title Potentially interim title maybe vacated title. I don't know but I'm if you're Islam I don't think you big I don't think you can vacate the title cuz like you're a long

Are you suggesting Ilya versus Charles, just main event? Main event, maybe there's like number one contendership on the line. Maybe it's just like, it's a super fight. We're going to stack the rest of the card. We've got a title fight underneath it. Well, the star. Does that do it for you?

No, no. It doesn't do it. Well, the star power is there. I think you have to have a title on the line for the international fight. So maybe interim, maybe vacant. Well, I think we'll ultimately know, like once we get to below versus JDM i think we'll have like a pretty clear

sense right like we'll know is islam going to change like that's another thing that i think that i'm almost certain the fight will be announced before 315 happens i i'm i'm nearly certain of that as well they have to sell tickets they have to build a buzz for this event, but I

do wonder if Islam's next move is not predicated on that. And so maybe it is not Islam, but it seems like it would make a lot of sense. You do Islam versus Ilya, it would make sense that Ilya vacated the title knowing that he was going to get a title shot, but the more the time goes on and the more he talks about, well, now it's Islam or Charles. It used to be I'm fighting for a title. Now it's, oh, well, I'll only fight Islam or Charles. Now it's like, where the fuck did Charles come from

in this conversation? Maybe it's because Charles is angling for the title. I'm interested in any of those matchups. And quite frankly, I'm down for Charles versus Ilya. I'm down, I'm down. Headline International Fight Week, no problem for Charles versus Ilya. I'm down. I'm down. Headline International Fight Week no problem for me. I got no issue with it. I'm still gonna stick with Islam Ilya being the headliner. I think so too. I think that's

ultimately what we're gonna get but I'll be honest I'd still have Humsat versus DDP above it. That's what I would rather say. That's what I would rather say. Heart of hearts. I think the other way we need to take a trip to old Sin City for International Fight Week. Islam versus DDP is my white whale. It's like if this happens. Hums up versus DDP. What did I say, Islam? Yeah, yeah, I'm down for that too.

I'm down for that. Hums up versus DDP. He's moving up two weight classes. He's going for the 85 belt. Who was it? It was either Javier Mendez or Ali Abdelaziz. One of them's like, yeah, I think it was Javier Mendez. It was like, yeah, he could go up to middleweight

and win the title. It's like, come on, let's hold the horses here. We'll find out about that soon enough. Probably in the coming weeks. Yeah, Hums Out DDP, I'm down for. One other bit of news that Dana White dropped is the partnership that the UFC now has with Metta. Yeah.

A lot to digest with this from many different stand points, but here is the announcement that Dana White released on Tuesday evening, I believe. What's up everybody? UFC and Meta just signed a massive long-term partnership. Meta will now become UFC's first ever official fan technology partner. This is great news for UFC fans. Why?

Because this means that META will use all of their badass apps and technology like Instagram, Facebook, threads, WhatsApp and Meta AI to create amazing content and experiences for UFC fans. We've already started to work with META to create a new fighter ranking system that will debut later this year. Thank God. We'll also be using Meta's AI powered glasses to capture UFC content and we're going to do things with Meta that will blow UFC fans away. The next few years will be an absolute game changer for fans of this sport.

Stay tuned everybody. Stay tuned. Ken, like the thing that I have to address right off rip is just him being like, we're working on a new fighter ranking system partnered with Metta, thank God. Thank God. And it's just like,

Shout out. Is this not the consequences of my own actions here? Like, did they not implement the rankings themselves? Could they have not changed them at any point? Yep, could have. Yeah, that one just off rip is just like, ah, well, like you could do the rankings themselves because they've not changed them at any point. Yep. Could've. Yeah. That one just off rip is just like, ah, well, like you could do the rankings. Also, you don't follow the rankings at all really. They're just kind of like a very loose barometer for who could potentially be next for the title. I mean, we have, I know it's circumstantial,

but we have JDM fighting in a few weeks who's not the number one contender. We had Khalil Roundtree fighting who's not the number one contender. We had Khalil Rowntree fighting who's not the number one contender. It looks like Kaikara France gonna take on Pantoja who's not the number one contender. Like the rankings are sort of null and void. If it's Ilya he's not even in the rankings. Like we had Max Holloway fighting for the 145. I don't think he was the number one contender. Like it's just like the rankings don't really matter. Maybe that will be the new ranking system. Is that it just doesn't matter? No, that it's like, it's tiers, champion, one slot,

contenders, three slots, near contenders, five slots, and they just tier out the rankings. There's no numbers. They're just like, oh, we could pick from this pool of three guys that are contenders, and maybe one of them will fight for a title. Or we'll elevate one guy from near contender to contender, or some other kind of format.

I'm truly curious to kind of see how, quote unquote, he didn't say AI will be involved in this ranking thing. But one sentence before saying that there's a new ranking system, he's like, we're doing all these cool things with Meta, including AI. So I have to assume that AI is part of this ranking otherwise like what does meta know that Joe Blow doesn't know like you just hand it off to somebody else if if they are to be involved I imagine is

there is some tech behind it and I imagine that tech to be AI obviously we won't know soon later this year quote-unquote from Danaway I assume that there's gonna be some kind of AI involvement, maybe it's some kind of scaling system that they can do. But I'm curious to see what this ultimately is, because right now it's just this like nebulous vague kind of thing. Yeah, it also feels like there has to be some sort of

human interaction with it, because you could just put the numbers through AI and then it comes out with all wonky, wacky numbers and it doesn't make any sense in terms of the ranking. And then you have Dana White at the, at the dais being like, ah, well fuck the rankings. Like they don't make any sense anyway. Like the computer doesn't know what it's talking about. Like it feels like there needs to be a combination of, of AI and human interaction and proper voting.

And AI has become such a like catchall, buzzy term for everything. What does it even mean, man? I don't know. I'm too dumb to understand. The way... Artificial intelligence. No, thanks, Frank. Is that it?

While we are talking about this, in this exercise, most people use AI to generate something, right? They'll like, they'll take a prompt and they'll say, can you tell me? And then it will index the internet and provide them an answer. Or they'll say like, can you explain this to me? Can you do this? Can you create this image based on this prompt that I have generated? Or can we combine these images? And you are, you are using a human input that is then asking the system, asking the AI to translate that and then produce something as a result for you. So it just is a tool at the moment and like I don't know

why this tool would be any better or worse than humans. It could potentially be better, but how? There would need to be some kind of training involved now. Certainly this is for meta to kind of figure out, but I just don't know that like the idea of like, quote unquote AI, like fixes a problem or is a bandaid for something doesn't really like track for me because it will need to be programmed or interacted with by people the same way

that the current ranking systems are produced by people. It is just another way of taking this data and spitting it back out. And so I don't know if this will work, but I don't know if any other system would work the same way, ultimately. I think it just all comes down to, it just doesn't really matter.

Well, that's the other thing, that you get a great point. The rankings just, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Think about the number one contenders that have worked their way up, gotten to number one contendership and then gotten the title fight. And even these guys, Bilal, Murab, Ankhalayev, they sort of had to claw their way

and beg their way to a title. If you just go back and look at previous ones and ones to come, like 315, JDM is the number five ranked guy. 314 is obviously vacant. But going back to 315, JDM is the number five ranked guy. 314 is obviously vacant, but going back to 312, was Strickland the number one contender going into that fight? I can't remember.

Pantoja Asakora, Asakora was- Certainly wasn't against Israel Adesanya. Asakora was obviously not the number one contender. Jones Miocic, Miocic was obviously not the number one contender. Roundtree obviously was not the number one contender going against Pereira, we just mentioned Marab. Like you just go back, Poirier versus Islam, Moicano versus Islam. I know these are circumstantial. Pantoja versus Erseg, obviously not the number one contender in that one. It just

feels like the more, O'Malley versus Chito Vera. And like this is just happening in the last year. It's like almost, it's rarer in most circumstances that it isn't the actual number one contender in the rankings that gets the title shot. So it's almost just like, it doesn't really matter. I'm not sure why there is like this, like we need a new ranking system so bad. Like, thank God we got a new ranking system. Like, it-

To save what? To just do the same thing where we decide who. Like to make it like pound for pound. Like it's just like, you're going to just do whatever is best for the company and the rankings be damned. It's a it's a fantastic point. I almost feel like and tell me if you agree with this I almost feel like rankings matter more for the fighter to be able to have a leg to stand on to say I'm the number one guy or even like I'm a top five guy

I only want top five guys in a negotiation with the UFC, in a negotiation with the matchmakers, and them to have to acknowledge it. I almost feel like that's the only benefit to it at the moment, because as you very well laid out, it ain't title shots, it ain't number one guy versus champion, like you mentioned Moe Cano, now that was a chance where the one,

it was gonna be the number one. And now they're not gonna give him a title fight. And now he's not getting a title fight. Because of circumstances where it's just like, well, you didn't make the weight. So you hurt your back the day of the fight. We're mad at you now. It matters not at all in terms of determining

who's the number one contender or who's next for the title or establishing that pecking order. I feel like it really has that value only in terms of like, if I'm a fighter, I'm negotiating against this, right? I'm the number three guy. You can't give me the number 15 guy, give me the number eight guy. I was just gonna say,

here's the one thing that it actually is good. I think it does give a vague roadmap of who is in title contendership, and it gives these guys who are outside of the rankings to be like, I want this guy, like I want to start working my way into the top 15, into the top 10. It sort of gives tears, like you mentioned.

So maybe we just do the tiers. It sort of gives tiers to where you wanna be fighting next and a lot of guys are like, well, I'm not fighting down in the rankings, things like that. It sort of gives you a vague roadmap of where you want to be next. They could just hire me, I'll do it. But also, on the back end of that,

I kind of feel like the rankings are good at ranking the top 15 guys. How rarely are you like, this guy back end of that, I kind of feel like the rankings are good at like ranking the top 15 guys. Like how rarely are you like, this guy needs to be ranked. How is he not in the top 15 right now? Like they're pretty- So then is it broken? Does it need to be fixed? I don't really think so.

It's just like, the rankings themselves aren't like, aren't terrible and they don't use them by the letter of the law. So it's just all like, who really cares? Like, thank God we're getting a new ranking system. Yeah ultimately this is how I feel about the rankings. They're not egregiously bad and as you said they're not used to determine much of anything. Who cares? I kind of say who cares. I don't care about the rankings. But then I say who cares but then I'm also interested to see what the

new rankings are gonna to be like. I think those are two separate conversations. I don't think the rankings do anything. Ultimately, I don't think they're applied in any material way that affects this. I'm interested to see what the change is. I'm interested to see what, if Metta is partnering with the USC and one of their tasks is like, come up with a better way of doing this. I'm completely open to the idea of that there is a better way to do it.

Let's see what it is. I'm totally open to that idea. I would love to hear that. Okay, well, on top of that, like beyond the rankings, this partnership also does feel like a pretty big deal. Like Meta is massive. It is so ridiculously large. And like the amount of people,

the amount of users that they get just on a daily basis is just insane and how many eyeballs the UFC can get from this. They already are getting on meta properties. They have 46 million followers on Instagram. They have another 45 on Facebook. They've got six million on threads. This is just a way to generate more eyeballs. And another really interesting part of it

is threads is going to become like, I think it's the first, and it's going to become an official social media partner of the USC, which I find very interesting as someone who's deeply ingrained in MMA Twitter, that the UFC will probably start pushing people towards threads. Like I don't think it's a coincidence

with how good of a relationship the UFC has with Metta that all of the announcements are Dana White going live on Instagram. It's always, he's going live on IG, go over to IG, we'll be live on the UFC and the Dana White account, that's where you can catch us. Maybe they start pushing to threads, obviously Metta has not given up on threads

to be sort of a competitor to Twitter. You mentioned it to me earlier, no more tweets on screen is what I would have to imagine once this goes live. They're not going to be featuring a direct competitor to Metta's threads. And they say in a press junket or whatever on UFC.com that threads is going to be the place that the MMA community lives. It's just very interesting from a social media standpoint of what this could mean for UFC fans. Totally, and I think it's brilliant on both sides.

For one, Dana White just recently appointed to the board of Metta, right? And now further ingrained in that, I think that's a smart move for Dana. You're now in partnership with many powerful people and as you mentioned, powerful platforms and all these things. On the Metta side of it, UFC, as you said,

has a massive footprint, massive audience. We've seen how Joe Rogan and Dana White as you mentioned, Powerball platforms and all these things. On the meta side of it, do you see, as you said, as a massive footprint, massive audience, we've seen how Joe Rogan and Dana White can influence political power and all these different things. It's smart for somebody in the meta camp to be like, okay, let's try to further collaborate with these people and figure out what kind of impact we can make,

in addition to the fact that if Dana White is like, yeah, we as a promotion and we as these athletes, and I imagine that this will start trickling down to like, they're pushing the athletes to be on threads and doing all these things, all of a sudden, now you've got a very dedicated user group that is creating content for the platform. And you've also got a fan base that follows the UFC

that knows, okay, if I need to get that content, now it's gonna live here, I need to get this app too. It's smart, it's smart business by both sides. I think it's gonna end up being very fruitful for everybody. Yeah, I mean, you think about the exclusivity that you can do with just like, oh, we're only gonna do it on.

We're only here. We're only gonna be on threads. If you're a UFC fan, you have to be on this platform. That's compelling. It almost feels like, I mean, they'll still use X just to get it in front of as many people as possible, but it also feels like they could be using X just to push people to threads, to be like,

yeah, we're on threads, because obviously this is gonna be a lucrative partnership for both of them, so yeah, it's gonna be very interesting to see how this plays out. They are very incentivized to be utilizing their partner's platform as opposed to a platform that is not giving them any, now, who knows? Elon Musk might call up Dana White tomorrow

and be like, is there any way we can also do something with you? I imagine being on the board of MetaProbably precludes that, but at the same time, people forget how, everybody has their favorite social media platform, right? For me personally, the one I use the most is TikTok. Um, um, I've just loved TikTok. I consume the most content on TikTok.

Mine's always been Twitter. For some it's Twitter for some many it's Instagram. Oh yeah. The thing that you sleep on is that the biggest audience by far, by far is on Facebook. The biggest audience is so crazy. Every Facebook seven years ago. I deleted my Facebook seven years ago, haven't thought about it since. Every possible metric,

they are the leaders in total audience. It's crazy. Everybody is on Facebook. It's the boomers, baby. It's everybody. It's literally everybody. My mom was like one of the last holdouts. She just got a Facebook. Was that?

It was a Who Me drop. Oh. Oh. We just heard the me part. Yeah, she just got a Facebook. What's that? It was a who me drop. Oh, we just heard the me part. Yeah, I thought Jordan said something. Jordan was like, Jordan was gonna be like, I fucking love Facebook, baby. I'm on Facebook right now, you just sent me a friend request. But yes.

I'll poke him, bro. The biggest audience by far, social media user base by far is on Facebook. Which is just meta. And so it's a meta property, you've got Instagram, you've got threads. They're building quite a comprehensive package. They've even got WhatsApp and there's other.

Yeah, and WhatsApp is massive, especially for international communication. For communication, yeah, totally. They're building a massive social media like community and user base. And this is just another way to, now you're segmenting it, you're going into a niche area where it's like UFC fans, if we can get them into an ecosystem where they exist on all these

platforms in this specific space and we're giving them exclusive offers, it's a compelling product, truly. I feel like they're gonna have a lot of success in converting people in this way. One last thing about it, Metta will become the official AI glasses of the UFC, which just really speaks to the ability of the UFC sales team just really speaks to the ability of the UFC sales team. This is not even me being sarcastic to make sales and give these, there's the official spiked lemonade

of the UFC and to be able to operate in so many different realms and just cover that octagon in sponsorships and just, I just can't imagine how many sales they get and how many officials of the UFC. It sounds so cool for the brand. Say it's like a... The individual segments.

Yeah, and it's like... Nimeroff is like the official vodka of the UFC, but then Howler Head is the official banana whiskey of the UFC, and then Monster Energy is the official energy drink of the UFC, but Prime is the official hydration drink of the UFC. So it looks very cool for the brand to be like, yo, we're the official... And they have official beer. We is the official hydration drink at the UFC. So it looks very cool for the brand to be like, yo, we're the official hydration drink.

Yeah, Bud Light's the official beer of the UFC. It really is insane, but do you think this means we get the glasses on the refs like the PFL SmartKate? I don't think so. Ah! I would love it, but remember, the refs don't work for the UFC. Just remember that the refs work for the commission,

the state athletic commission, and so they are not involved in this and they will not get any compensation. Now, the UFC could say, hey, let me work out a deal with the athletic commission. Can we get you guys to do this? Maybe there's a way. I don't think it's impossible.

Ultimately, I think we'll see more of, like Dana White showed in the video, somebody in the UFC is wearing the glasses and watching the stare down and you'll see that video footage or maybe they'll get fighter or two to in the stare down. They can wear them or something like that. Uh, training and training. They had them punching the bag and stuff like that. I think they'll come up with stuff.

I think the glasses, which by the way, like anecdotally, I've, I've known a few people who have them and have said, like, they're pretty fantastic. Like they, they really, like they they are they don't look exactly exactly exactly like regular sunglasses but they're close enough that like it's not like super noticeable and they have the recording ability and all the different things people have been pretty impressed from the people that I know that have tested them I think there's so many different things that they can do even beyond just like the simple stuff that we're thinking about now.

Like over the course of this long-term partnership, it's gonna be massive. You know what I'm thinking? And everything they're gonna be able to do with it, they can just turn into social content and just put it on all the platforms for Meta. It's just gonna be a very good partnership for them. We make the fighting nerds glasses.

In Meta. Meta integrated. Of course. So then Caio Bahaglio gets the win and then he puts them on and now you can go view from his point of view. He's looking at DC. And Joe Rogan. Yeah, I did see that there's gonna be like special streaming offers through Meta, like things on the

pay-per-view, like alternate streaming options that are gonna be immersive. I've never done like the VR things, but like, I would imagine at some point they're gonna try and get like VR integration in it to where you can draw a headset. I think they already were working on that. Yeah. Look around like you're really there.

So yeah, it's very interesting. It felt like when the news dropped of it on Tuesday, I was kinda like, oh yeah, Meta, whatever, he's already on the board, it's all good. But then when I sat and thought about it more, beyond just the, oh yeah, we're gonna do the rankings and all this, it's just like, man, the power that Meta holds, like the influence that Metta can have is massive

for a company that's already capitalizing on it. But vice versa, the power that the UFC has as a brand right now, the power that Metta could choose to do this partnership with anybody. Metta could go to the NBA, to the NFL, to anybody and kind of be like, okay, they are picking the UFC, Dana White on the board. The UFC has a lot of power right now.

Dana White has a lot of power right now. This is a partnership between two giants in kind of this space, right? This entertainment space. The lines of social media versus content versus this, everything is being blurred together. And so, yeah, I think there's an unlimited kind of potential for what this could ultimately be. And everybody thought Zuckerberg

ran it out the apex just because he wanted to watch McKenzie Dern fight. We were laying the groundwork, baby. I think both are true. I think there's probably some business to be done, but I think he also is a massive fan. Take it easy, Zuck, take it easy. Okay, we have some notes here from the people in the back.

I was gonna see the boys in the back, but. The people in the back. Shout out to Andy. What are we saying? Shout out to our producers. What are we in? We have, as an exercise earlier, there was a chat GPT rankings generated.

Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And we're going to compare them to the actual ranking. So this is what the chat GPT rankings spit out for the lightweight division. All right, Islam number one. Makes sense. Charles number two. Probably doesn't make sense.

This is already differentiating just a little bit. Armin is number one and Charles is number two. Justin Gaethje, that's the same. Dustin Poirier is not at five in these rankings. He's actually ahead one or he's behind one. Max Holloway is where Dustin Poirier is in this. Dan Hooker's in the same spot. Hanato Moekano sitting at seven.

He's actually at 10 in the normal rankings. Benio Darius at eight. He's actually at nine in the normal. Michael Chandler at nine. He's actually at seven and Max Holloway Michael Chandler at nine, he's actually at seven, and Max Holloway at 10. So that's interesting. They have the same 10,

but they're in different orders. Correct, so no one outside the top 10 is in this 10. And now we're seeing the actual UFC lightweight. Can we quickly flip back and forth between them, like two seconds on each? Let me see that again. Okay, so you know who is missing? Mateusz Gamrot.

We have Islam as one here instead of champion. Oh, because champion, yeah. So yeah, Charles would be one, Armand too. It would just flow from there. Gaethje three, which is the same, Poirier four in the chat, GPT one. So like it's a lot of the same people, but damn, the disrespect for Gamrot.

Gamrot gets no love from the machine, man. Hanato Maikano at seven instead Also seems like the the machine doesn't realize that Islam is champion. They're just ranking top That's well, they know ball issue, but they know ball that they know that is interesting to note on the UFC rankings I think it was last week Holloway and Poirier flips So I think Poirier is fifth in the UFC rankings, and Holloway is fourth. Before last week, it was the other way around.

No fight. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you watch their Twitter, you never know. I mean, that's what the machine isn't going to do. Mike sounds great, by the way, Jordan. Mike sounds great. Yeah, it's been improved. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It looks good. Shout out to Frankie on that one. Simperrero. We need to get a note from that person who wrote the question about how Jordan sounded nasally or whatever they were question about how Jordan sounded nasally or whatever they were saying. He has a... He sounds extra nasally today, I'm not gonna lie.

You know... Yes, Frank. Come on, Frank, get it out. You know, he has a deviated septum, so like... Wow. He's off on the whole nasal... Whoa, look at that, man! In the bright lights!

I also could be catching the Jackman flu again using this mic, so I'm a little cautious. God, that septum looks deviated as hell, bro. In the bright lights. I also could be catching the Jackman flu again you yeah Mike some little Gosh, God that septum looks deviated as hell, bro Hey, can I ask something about Frankman Frank actually can I ask something real quick Frank? Were you getting so many questions were you getting consent to reveal that he has a deviated septum? Yeah We'll see in HR tomorrow morning man the other day I mentioned his tummy tummy problems and it was like, dude, I told you that in private. I'm like, I'm more in the bathroom. Yeah, Frank did reveal last week

that I had a bit of a back-up problem on the air and I didn't really reach that one. I have two questions. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wanna know what's going on with Jordan, just hit me up. I'll explain his entire health record. All right, what's your question? First one, are the house lights on in there?

No. Man, Jordan is like a bright guy. He is a beacon. He's shining bright like everyone else. You know why he looks so bright is because you always wear a black shirt, he's wearing a white shirt. All right, question number two, Jackman Flu.

What falls under this? If somebody breaks their leg, is that Jackman Flu? Or is it? No, no, no, no, no. No, it is, yeah. It's only viruses? What is it? Yeah, just any illness that was born in the control room. I woke up with a headache the other day, called my doctor. He's like, you've got the Jackman flu. I don't know.

Alright, what about like- You've actually gotten two wads now. Is deviated septum Jackman flu? I believe so. No, deviated septum is just circumstantial, but it could have it could have come for started with complications I'm looking to the jackman flu all right. I'm just trying to understand the Can we stop calling chat GPT the machine? Why I just feel just like that's what it is. It's the machine. It feels disrespectful

I might just get rid of this right now just This is all it's going to play this image back to you as it's, you know... What, murders him? Like you're predicting a Terminator situation? Alright, Skynet becomes sentient. Wait... Soon. Who is it disrespectful to though?

You said it's very disrespectful to... I think he's saying it's disrespectful to the machine. To the machine? I for one would like to point out that I think Chat Cheap BT is an amazing tool. Frank is very terrified of Skynet. He terrified that's kind of it's gonna come from Did you did you ever see the movie AI with Will Smith? No, that's not the thing. It's called I robot Oh, I know one of the welches. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, not that one. That was trash. Yeah, I robot was good I robot and sunny real quick about AI right Stanley Kubrick wanted to make AI the movie

But part of his thing was like I actually want to make an Android and like Stanley We don't have the technology to do that He's like well damn it and then he died before he could do it someone handed it off to Steven Spielberg He's like let's get the kid from the Welch's commercial. We'll just have him never blink Wait like the kid from the Welch's commercial are you talking about Haley Joel Osment? Is that who it is? In the sixth sense he was like one of the biggest actors at the time. What are you talking about?

The Welsh's commercial. Hailey Joel Osment of Hannah Montana fame? Wait, what? Is he not? He's talking about his sister, Emily. Hannah Montana? I don't know, but Hailey Joel was the kid in the Sixth Sense. Who was the kid in the old Welch's jelly commercials?

I don't know who you're talking about. Interesting. I have to look it up. Wasn't Hailey Joel Osment in a Disney Channel show? I don't think so. You talking about. Interesting, I have to look it up. Wasn't Hailey Jo Osmond in like a Disney Channel show? I don't think so. You're thinking of Emily Jo Osmond, his sister. His sister life of... Who is there, yes.

His sister was in what? I think Hannah Montana's best friend. Andy is correct. It is. Emily Osmond is Hailey Jo Osmond's sister. Okay, but is Hailey on Disney Channel? No. Wasn't his debut The Sixth Sense?

No, he was in For debut, The Sixth Sense? No, he was in Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump? He was in Forrest Gump! What else was this kid in, man? Whoa. All right, I'm getting way too deep on Hayley Joel Ousmane. Hayley Joel Ousmane also starred in the Entourage movie.

He's been in a lot of stuff. He's been making a comeback lately. Shout out to Hayley Joel. He was in an episode of Hey Arnold? I mean, this guy was, this guy was- No, he was a superstar. I swear he was in- He's on the Welsh comeback lately. Shout out to Haley Joel. He was in an episode of Hey Arnold? I mean, this guy was, this guy was. No, he was a superstar. I swear he was in. He's not in a Welsh's grape jelly.

I thought he was in some sort of, in some sort of kids movie. Alas, those were the rankings from Chat GPT. The machine provided, don't know how much of a difference it would make in all honesty, but like, it is interesting that they had the same 10, minus Gamrot.

Gamrot just gets no respect from anyone. As I was saying earlier, chat GPT, the entity known as chat GPT, is not providing you a ranking. Yeah. It is just chat GPT compiling information from around the internet and giving you the best approximation of what they believe is the correct answer. Honestly,

it should just be a panel of AI robots. Instead of KHON Hawaii and like approximation of what they believe is the correct answer. Honestly, it should just be a panel of AI robots. Instead of KHON Hawaii and Wyoming State University Radio, it should just be Gemini, Chachie P.T., Siri is on there. Oh, we've landed Siri as our third panelist. Meta AI, I think it'd be good. That's great, that's great. All right.

All right, we've done. Big news, let's move to this weekend, UFC Vegas 105, the promotion returns to the Apex, much awaited. First time in the Apex since, sheesh, it's been a few weeks since before 313, I think. No way, really? Is that true? Some mistake.

When was, no, when was Vittoria and? Yeah, that was the week after 313, Vittoria and? And Delizze. Right, right, right. Yep, yep. How could we forget that one? I mean, unforgettable, H-Dow, come on. Yeah, but they do return with a banger this weekend,

Josh Emma taken on Lerone Murphy in the main event. Yeah, I mean, this is an amazing fight. I love this fight. The top of it, and if you look at the rest of the bill, your theory is coming true. Pat Zappatini versus Joe Anderson Brito is a banger in the sense that it's just like, these dudes are gonna scrap.

They're definitely gonna scrap. It feels like any apex card, they're like, we don't really care about the name value, just put on two dudes that are just gonna slug it out. I feel like in a past era, it would be like the Tavares versus Mirashart fight would be the co-men, right? Correct. It'd be like, the names that you know

are gonna be up here, but now they've shifted to like, co-main event is Bloodbath. Bloodbath. Main event, you got the intrigue, you got the stakes. Co-main event, maybe not the best fighters, Bloodbath. That's what they're guaranteeing. I actually wonder if you went back and looked at it, and you were like, how often did the co-main event

of apex cards, of apex cards. Finish. Not go the distance. Yeah. And I can actually pull it up right here. Vitoria DeLizze, we might just end this real soon. Nope, Chidi and Eliza Zalesky Dos Santos, that ended in a finish.

Finish, yep. Before that we had Kap versus Asu Almabayev, Julian Marquez, Cody Brodhead. That ended in a finish. All right, let's go one more. Kanyne Rodriguez, co-main event. Decision, Calvin Cater, Yusuf Zallal. See, that's the old style.

We've got two high level guys, we're putting them in there. You could have put a banger like these ones and you could have kept that alive. Okay, Durn Hebus, Co-Main event, Santiago Ponsonabio Carlston Harris, and didn't finish. That's three for four. Can they make it four of five

in the legendary Bloodbath Co-Main spot for Apex cards? It's honestly becoming an honor of some sort. Yeah, Co-Main means like we believe that you're gonna put on a great fight. Khomein killers. Yeah. That's what we're gonna call it. Let's stick with the main event right now though.

Lerone Murphy, obviously still undefeated, ascending, getting a big name. This is obviously the biggest test to date for him. This would push him in, I know he's 10th right now, I think this would push him into like that eight, seven. Maybe we'll start talking about like an Arnold Allen fight, maybe like a Brian Ortega if he stayed at 145. Yeah, Rodriguez, we're really looking for a big name

after this if he were to get a win. Looked good against Dan Ege, was able to bounce back after getting knocked down in round one when the last two rounds looked unbelievable against Edson Barboza. Like honestly shocking that he didn't get the finish in that one. Looked great against Josh Kuhl about the time before that.

Like each time he comes out, he's really been looking class other than the knockdown in round one against Dan Ege. If he can put on a performance like that against Josh Emmett to where he really puts a stamp on it, maybe even finishes him as well. That's a tall task. After the beating that Elias Depori put on him, it is tough to get Josh Emmett out of there

and Lerone Murphy isn't really known for finishing. Regardless, if he can put a stamp and get a big victory here, the sky's the limit for Lerone Murphy. Undefeated guy out of the UK who's been looking better each time he goes out. Yeah, I'm a big believer in the well-rounded kind of skill set of Lerone Murphy.

There's one thing that's preventing me from going all the way in, which is just, there's every, in every fight, there's just these like dicey moments. There's these one, one or two little moments where it's like, man, there's something missing in the seasoning, right? Like he just, he just needs to be in there against more of these top level guys so that he can get the experience and continue to grow and like kind of fix and shore up those holes. There's always just this one little moment in every fight where I'm like, oh, that was a tactical error. Most of the time it's not devastating. Most of the time it's not going to be like the difference in the fight because he's pretty comfortably like ahead in a lot of them. But there's always one little moment. Well remember Gabriel Santos fight in 2023 was razor close. And then the

Makwan Amir-irakani fight, he was getting essentially dominated the entire first round and then he landed a knee when Mokwana was going for another takedown. So yeah, I kind of see what you're saying. And then Dan Ige obviously, he got dropped in that one. Ige credited with the knockdown. So I do see what you're saying,

but that Edson Barbosa performance was going five rounds as well, was just like, this is what this guy is truly capable of. As I said, I believe in the skill set. Like he's got great hands. He can get into the grappling if he needs to. I think we saw like some holes in the grappling against Danny Gay.

Like we saw that it's not like, there's some stuff to work on. There's some stuff to work on. If he continues to work on those things and apply them at a high level against guys like Danny Gay and Josh Emmett and then even further up the rankings, I think he will have some success. on those things and apply them at a high level against guys like Danny Gay and Josh Emmett and then even further up the rankings, I think he will have some success.

It's a tough road to that top. It's a tough climb in that division and so I don't know how far he's ultimately going to go, but I do believe he has the tools to make that climb. That's what I'd say. I don't think he's ill-equipped. I think he has everything you need in that toolbox. Is he going to be able to put it all together is kind of my question. I don't think Josh Emmett is going to be the stumbling block.

I do think Lerone Murphy is going to be able to get it done. I just want to know how far is this? What is that point where he reaches too far? If it's championship, I mean, I could believe... If you told me he will one day be a champion, I'm not going to think that's crazy. But if you told me one day that he didn't champion, I'm not gonna think that's crazy. But if you told me one day that he didn't make it to there, that he's the fifth best guy, I'd also kind of believe that too.

I'm curious what that ceiling ultimately ends up being, but I don't think it's because of a lack of skills. I don't think it's because he doesn't have anything. He has all the tools in the arsenal. He just kind of needs to find a way to put them all together. Yeah, I mean, he's over a minus 300 favorite in this one. Like you mentioned you don't think

this is gonna be the stumbling block, but I am curious to like what he would look like against a Yair. Yeah. Like I feel like a Movsar, like he mixes the martial arts so well. He is such a well-rounded game, but it's just like, once you get to that like Movsar level,

once you get to that Diego Lopez is like, then what do we really look like? I'm more curious about the Diego Lopez, right? Because against Movsar, you know, hey, if I can keep this off the ground, I have a big advantage on the feet. Against a Yair, if I can keep this off the feet, I have a big advantage there.

And to his credit, I think he has skills in both those areas to be able to do that. That's why I believe in the skillset. But when you get to like a Diego Lopez and Alexander Volkonovsky, where there are no holes. It's just you versus them and they're just as well-rounded as you are, then I really am going to find out about you. That's where the proven ground ultimately comes. That's where the test comes. And so I think he'll be able to kind of pass a lot of these tests. I think Josh Emmett, if he's

able to keep him at range, avoid the big bomb, mix in the grappling, I think it'll be a relatively comfortable night for him. I think he has a superior skill set. But after this is where I'm interested to see when you start talking about those level of guys, what does it look like when he has to... When it's not just, I can wrestle this guy or strike with this guy, what does it have to be when you have to put it all together? Well that's kind of the funniest part is that like you mentioned like Volkanovsky

where like there are no holes. It's almost just like Volkanovsky is good at what Murphy is good at. That's it. You're a mirror. He's just better at it. I think better but I'd like to see. Maybe we don't know. Maybe we don't know. On the flip side of that Josh Emmett. A couple things here. Josh Emmett is 40 now. Obviously he fights the best of the best. Yeah, years. Oh, he's fought everybody in this division. Elia Toporia.

Yeah. Brutal, vicious, vicious knockout of Bryce Mitchell last time out. Oh boy. Carries insane power. It always messes me up when I see pictures of him. I'm like, oh, he's like 5'10, 5'11 Josh Shemin, and then it's like, he's 5'6. Yeah.

It always does. He's got very long arms, if I remember correctly. He's got a nasty reach on him. Built like an absolute tank. Been growing out the beard, been trying to really support the bald beard brand Josh Shimmett has. I mean, he's been letting this thing poof out.

He's been looking fantastic. Look at that, look at that. Yeah, that is decent. It's a good beard, man. It's a good beard. He looks good. One other thing I had to note of, did I just completely miss this?

I can't find anything on this. Typology has it Josh CCO Emmett. Josh CC0 Emmett. As a nickname for him. I remember Robert Whitaker gave him the Fighting Falmer. Well, that was like a girl's thing. The Elder Scrolls thing. I know that was never an official one,

but I typed in CC0 online and it's a creative Commons license that allows anyone to use work without the copyright holders permission Zero public that related to video games. I like it because idea Josh Emmett is a gamer and that's where the like the thing of Whitaker giving in that nickname was from, Frank help me, Elden Ring? Elden Scrolls. Elden Scrolls? Elder Scrolls.

Elder Scrolls? Correct. I just missed this. Like UFC posted on Facebook, a KO followed by a backflip. That's just the CCO way. CC0, CCO. CC0.

He actually posted an entire video. There's a video how I got my nickname. Yeah. Jordan, can you watch that? I don't know Josh, I'm in lore like this. I'm gonna send this to the chat. Somebody watch this and let us know how he got this while we're talking about this.

But yeah, I wasn't aware of the nickname. I wasn't aware of, I guess before this, he didn't have a nickname. I was trying to think of it earlier and I couldn't come up with it. I guess he didn't have a nickname I was trying to think of it earlier and I couldn't come up with it I guess he didn't have an easy CEO NFT is a creative common zero NFT like did he name himself after enough NFT then it says Josh Emmett answers if he'd ever get paid in Bitcoin as well as how CC zero became his his nickname Jordan's gonna Jordan's gonna listen either way um

I mean I think the path to victory is pretty clear here right for Josh Emmett you need to knock knock his ass need to knock his ass out. Yeah, knock his ass out. Catch him on the chin and put him out. And he has the capability to do against literally anybody because of the way he swings those things. I just think maybe it will happen. Maybe it will get dicey for Laron at some point. He's shown he can be hurt. He's shown he's susceptible to that. Skill for skill though, I just think Laron is too well-rounded and he's just gonna, he's gonna be able to keep it where he wants the fight to be. Yeah, I'm with you and at this point, Josh,

I mean like even with the win at 40 years old, it kind of feels like his career developed into what you said, like he's this great fighter, he ended up being a top five guy. Had great moments. Had great moments, memorable moments, interim title shot against Yair Rodriguez, but just like never broke through

to that full champion status, that full like top three, hanging around the top of the division. And at 40 years old, even with the win, he's still a few away from the title shot, you sort of have to wonder where his career goes from there. Yeah, 100%, but at the same time, he's the type of guy that's a great measuring stick

for a guy like Leroy Murphy. If you've been in there five rounds with the elite support now, did he I think he went the whole round Yeah, he went the whole round got 10 now and it was like a god He 42 or something living crap beat out of them But you go five rounds with Ilya toporia who by the way has like finished max Holloway finished Alexander Volkonov ski like going five rounds. I don't't care whether he won or lost, he went five rounds with Ilya Toporya, that is a measuring stick if you're Lerone Murphy, that is a guy that if you have his name on your resume, you go, okay, I'm of a certain caliber

now that people did not know I was of before. I am able to say, I am able to state claim that I am now upper echelon, and I think that's a great thing for fighters to have, to be able to make that point of comparison. Yeah, I think that's another point in favor of Josh have, to be able to make that point of comparison. Yeah, I think that's another point. In favor of Josh Emmett is the toughness could come into play here.

Cause Lerone Murphy, like we saw in the Barbosa fight, like he was not able to get him out of there, and I don't think he's gonna be able to get Josh Emmett out of there, and if that's the case, going 25 minutes with Josh Emmett is not an easy task. Well, you're giving him that many more opportunities to land that shot, and we even saw in the Iliya Toporio fight, even as bloodied and battered as he was still he is still

walking forward trying to finish that fight and so yeah we're gonna we're gonna potentially learn something about Laurent Murphy when it comes to that but I just feel like especially the fact that like Dan Egate proved that like Laurent Murphy can't get dropped like he can't get hit can get hit the grappling is not perfect there are opportunities there are holes on the ground that can be exploited, we'll ultimately see. I do believe Leroy Murphy will pass this test off. I think so too, it's a very intriguing fight,

I am looking forward to it, I think it's a good main event. We'll be great in front of a crowd. We'll be great in front of a crowd, but last week it was a big match. Yeah, that's asking for too much. Let's go to the co-main event, Joannis. Quick update, quick update. Oh, oh, oh, CC0 update, let's go to the call main event join us they quick up oh CC 0

update let's go CC 0 or cco yeah I like that pertains to NFTs so creative common zero NFT okay relates to IP rights that have been relinquished and okay just loves NFTs okay okay loves NFTs not a great nickname but the... One of the worst thing names I've heard. It's not great for the ball. Should we change our pound for pound to just worst nicknames right now? Number one. Nah, I'm just kidding. The NFT bubble kind of popped, huh?

Yeah, when did he change his name? I'm curious. Did it happen in the middle of that and we just didn't know? I have a friend who will remain unnamed. Who, me? No, no, not you. Not you. What happened in the middle of that and we just didn't know? I have a friend who will remain unnamed. Who, me? No, no, not how funny, but a friend that will remain unnamed that got real into NFTs.

Now, are we talking like spent a lot of money on? Spent a lot of money, spent a lot of money. Any return on that investment? Got a drawing of a camel. There wasn't much return on investment. Any return on investment? No, no, no, there's not gonna be any return on that investment got a got a drawing of a camel There wasn't much There's not gonna be any of the own the digital camel They own the digital camel there's nothing to do with it. Sorry. They don't order the digital camel

They own a digital drawing of a camel. I correct. Yeah, they don't actually own a direct Those those just never made a ton of sense to me There's probably some big brain listening right now. That's like that. I made so much money off of those I have some NFT like Panini UFC cards. Yeah, you remember like Top Shot with the NBA. Yeah. Yeah, I have the I have the UFC equivalent of that they still do I think I have a Habib. I don't think I have a I think I have a Habib I might have a Habib Common one. I bet that's worth a I think I have a Habib. I might have a Habib. A common one.

I bet that's worth a lot. Oh yeah, here we go. Yeah, Top Shot's still a thing, I guess. You can buy a highlight. No, no, this is not a thing anymore. They're showing highlights with no fans in the crowd. Shout out, shout out. All right, co-main event.

Remember, who was it? Somebody wore the highlight around their neck. Oh yes. Was it Max? Izzy? Izzy. highlight around their neck. Oh yes. Was it Max? Izzy? Izzy. Yeah, I remember when this happened. Izzy was wearing the highlight.

Yeah. What an era. What a weird time. Is that what we're gonna get? Is meta gonna do highlights that you can wear around your neck? 30 years from now, NFTs I feel like will be looked on. Why was that a thing?

Why was that a thing? To be fair, we kind of look at it like, why were pogs a thing? We do that for everything? To be fair, we kind of look at it like, why were pogs a thing? Like we do that for everything. How's the pogs getting more air play in this? Why are you paying money to trade pieces of paper with skulls on them? Well, did you guys know, Piss or Facts of the Week,

money is not actually paper. It's 75% cotton, 25% linen. Learn that at the old urinal this week. Shout out to the Yahoo Piss or Facts. No joke, I went in the bathroom the other day, there was a guy just standing in front of the urinal reading. It's a good read. Not using the bathroom, and then I'm like, behind him,

oh, I'm sorry, and he moves out of the way. I'm like, Jesus, just go read the one on the stall. I'm fairly certain. I would have said there's nothing to apologize for. You're catching up on the pisser facts, I get it. I'm fairly certain I did that with On Air Jordan. I was actually just about to say, Eric, the other day I walked into the bathroom he's finishing up his business and he just goes huh and I was like what's up he's

like just reading the facts in the pisser facts there was a there was another fact this week that I was like wow that's pretty interesting that is I like I really like the Yahoo pisser facts yeah the pisser facts I'm trying to get it pushed to where they officially changed the name and that's the brand new word. We should start a petition? Petition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Co-Main event, Joe Anderson Brito

taking on Pat Sabatino, like we said, it's just the Co-Main killers. It's a banger. In the Apex. They really have been making hay with like the lesser cards, putting just like two violent studs on there. Brito, obviously heavy-handed, can get some missions. Five is last, six under two and a half. Sabatini on the flip side, four straight.

Win or lose, have ended by finish. I feel like this one is going to end the same way. I think it'll be chaotic. I think it'll be fun. Yeah, who do you got? Give me Brito. I think so too. I know he's the favorite, but like I just feel like he has more paths to victory and Sabatini is pretty sub heavy when he does get finishes, but I feel like Brito's got the ground game to survive. I was gonna say though, like, would you be shocked for Pat to just snatch up a sub? No. No.

No, because that's what he does. He just finds these. I mean, in the co-main event of an Apex card, anything can happen. Everyone knows that. Should we make that like the slogan? Yeah, that's the new branding. Apex co-main event, anything can happen.

Everyone's always gonna be like, whoa, main event, Macy Barber versus Aaron Blanchfield. And I'm gonna be like, I don't give a shit. What's the co-main event? What's the co-main event? It's gonna be like two guys that haven't gone to a decision in 18 years. It would be very disrespectful if we just started

filling in names now, but we will know that they are bangers. And if you are tracking, you know that the boys in the back love the Apex Co-Main event. Oh yeah, I actually turned my TV off after the Co-Main. I'm just like, all right, saw it. Oh, I heard the Roe Murphy one. How'd that look? Congratulations.

How'd that go? Oh, five round decision? Yeah, sounds cool. The Co-Main event ended in 42 seconds. Somebody died. Yeah. Yeah, so that one should be good. Let's keep it rolling.

Third fight down on the card. Third fight down on the card, Cortavius. Are you not entertained? Ramius taking on Chang Ho Lee. I mean this is just like, this is just two like young prospects. Yeah and also Cortavius Ramius is like the best name ever. Cortavius nickname, are you not entertained? Yeah it's great, it's fantastic. He went one-on-one on Dana White Contender Series, Chang HoHo Lee, one road to UFC. They're both very early on in their UFC careers.

It just, we don't really know much about either of these guys. They're just budding UFC fighters. Why are they the third fight? You know what? I always say I don't care about card placement, then I get sucked into the conversation. We're just gonna move on.

Cortavious, are you not entertained, Ramius, did fight on North Iowa, fights 18. I wonder if he gets a quick finish, quick turnaround to May, get him on the moin. No, what if he just comes with us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got an extra bed, Kortavius. No worries. Shout out.

Shout out. Wait, do we have an extra bed? No. Okay. Yeah, it should be a fun fight. Kennedy ends at Chukwu versus Martin Buday. This one I feel like goes one of two ways. I totally agree. Kennedy gets the striking off

and probably starts as Martin. Yeah. Or Martin gets some takedowns, works the clenches, and you're like, all right, let's get on the Cortavius Romius. That's exactly what I think as well. I think it's either just a slog fest and Martin Buday wins by decision

or Kennedy probably gets the shots going and land something big and Put some down. What do you what? I'm leaning. I'm gonna say Kennedy I think so too, but I was five and one of the UFC but like none of the wins are really that impressive I've been impressed like I know look level of competition is obviously important to recognize like we should not just be like oh Oven st. Prue is the same as Chris Barnett or Breschke, right? But I do feel like Kennedy has been really putting it together. Like he has looked better and better. Yeah, he has he has really just looked better lately. I've been impressed. Chris Barnett one was crazy. Yeah It's like oh, let's give let's give the 5'9 guy. The tallest guy versus the smallest guy. Versus the 6'6 dude with an

85 inch reach or whatever it is for Kennedy. Yeah, he has like the tide with John Jones for the longest reach or something. He's crazy. Oh, no Maybe that was rebellious to spawn but it was rebellious Kennedy's got a very long reach both the spawn fighting on GFL Can't wait for that one. Um, but I even even it gets It's such a good song so good bang, um It's such a good song. So good. Despite the level of competition, I have seen the improvements in the game and I've been really impressed with the version of Kennedy that we're kind of seeing, so I expect them to win. Gerald Mearschart taking on Brad Tavares. It's a good fight. It's just like the most middleweight apex fight of all time. It feels like these guys

have fought 87 times. That's right. But this being their first. oh, that never happened before? Yeah. Oh, that didn't happen? This does feel like what before this new era of the Khomein killers would be the Khomein event. This would have been the Khomein. Like, Brad Tavares won four in his last five,

Gerald Meyers shot two and three in his last five, just like a get right spot for one of them. Could be entertaining. Brad Tavares has like an iron chin, GM3 usually finishes by sub, tough as nails as well. So like, you know these guys are going to come in and put on and we'll see what happens. I expect Brad Tavares to cruise in this fight, but it still goes one of two ways. He's either going to cruise and that's the end of the story or he's going to cruise and then in the third round, GM3 is going to sub him because that's the end of the story, or he's gonna cruise, and then in the third round, GM3's gonna sub him, because that's what GM3 does.

I mean, it actually is ridiculous. Gerald Mearschart, he has 29 wins by submission. Not as impressive as I thought. Only four by third round. I thought I was about to say like 12. Yeah, but even what you're thinking of, what you're also accounting for, is sometimes, even though it's not in the third round,

it's still a comeback. Because in the first or second, he's getting his ass completely destroyed. He's not in the third round it's still a comeback because like in the first or second He's getting his ass completely destroyed like he's getting beat the hell up and then he still comes back to do it So even though it's not like buzzer beater or late submission He has plenty where it's like oh that guy almost got killed and then in a second round He subbed him or something crazy like that. It's also crazy to see 12 wins in the UFC 11 coming by way of submission like that. It's also crazy to see 12 wins in the UFC, 11 coming by way of submission. Yeah, no, he is, there is one thing that he is extremely, there's a few things that he's extremely good at. One, he's extremely tough. He can take a beating and it allows him to be there

late in the fights, but snatching up submissions out of nowhere is a skill that he has. And it's like one of the, like Paul Craig is another example of a guy that you just, sometimes he just finds a way. GM3 finds a way. He finds a way to win fights and often it's by just some like Hail Mary type submission thing. Actually, Hail Mary is not even fair to say. He's extremely technical. He's extremely good.

It's set up, but it's usually on the back of like things are not going his way. And he finds a way to reverse the course, but he's, he's fantastic at it. Last one on the main card, Robert Valentine, Valentin Valentine versus Torres Finney, my goat. Fighting out of Macon, Georgia, just 5'8", fighting at middleweight, but he is undefeated, jacked to the gills, had to fight three times on Dana White Contender Series.

Dana just didn't want to give him a shot at first. Everyone's always like, man, Bo Nicol had to fight twice, Torres Finney, the actual middleweight goat, had to fight three times just to earn his spot. Not the most exciting fight. Citi actually loves the Apex, just wish that the tickets were cheaper for his family. All of his fights have taken place at the Apex.

We need to have him on. Let's talk to him about why he loves the Apex so much. Rob Zilla, he's coming off of tough, last season's tough, the Valentina Shevchenko versus Alexey Grosso, won two fights on that and then lost in the final so he's 0-1 in the UFC. Yeah I mean if Torres Finney gets the wrestling going once it comes to the mat it doesn't matter about his height. Big favorite in this one, I feel like he probably gets the the wrestling off. I agree. I saw some controversy

Did you see this on social where it was like the UFC posted like he's never he's making his octagon debut And then like people were like oh But that photo that you used of him. It's like the octagons behind him and like he's right right right is I feel like you should be saying UFC debut. Yes Obviously when you're on Dana White contender series, you're in the octagon or something. No, maybe it was what was it tough or whatever Anyway, doesn't matter. Yeah exhibition from tough. They don't count as as fights Yeah, because their exhibition and so they were not counting that but then he lost to Ryan Loader with what looks like a real fight So I don't know why they said I don't know why they said that but either way. I

Agree with you. I think that's probably how that one goes all right that's the main card I want you to choose one fight banger one fight from the purie limbs that you're most looking forward to mmm mmm mmm you want me to go first yeah you go first I have I have one in mind but let's see you go first so I don't pick that this one's easy for me dangerous Davey Grant versus Daniel Santos Willie cat that's a great one coming back from the first time in in almost two years this just feels like You go first so I don't pick that. This one's easy for me. Dangerous David Grant versus Daniel Santos. Willie Cat. God, that's a great one. Coming back from the first time in almost two years. This just feels like a proper scrap.

This just feels like two dudes that are gonna go out there and just let it fly. This is one of those ones like apex, pre-lim, and you're just like, man, that was a great fight. That was a great fight. Okay, I'm not gonna pick a fight. Okay. I'm gonna pick two fighters that I love.

Okay. Because I feel like they're gonna win, but I'm just pick two fighters that I love. Okay. Because I feel like they're gonna win but I'm just picking two fighters. I love watching Victor Henry. Oh love watching Victor Henry. And I love watching Loma look Boon Me. Victor Henry when he made his debut against I believe it was Hione Barcellos. It was like a plus 500 underdog and he was able to pull off the victory like always been a fan since. Loma look Boon Me. Very aggressive female fighter love watching her fight minus 700 you have a minus 700 Loma look boon me and a minus

1100 Dione Barbosa. Oh boy. What? Could possibly go wrong. What could possibly um, there's some names There's some fun stuff on this card. It feels like the apex has just settled into this groove of like Yeah, we're gonna put on some scraps. They're gonna be great and then great relative they're gonna be like you will have a fight yeah there will be your fights there will be fighters wearing UFC gloves and it will account towards their official UFC record this weekend yeah there's the prelims Ode Osborne should be good always fun to watch him fight Davey Grant Daniel Santos that's my prelim scrap

of the night Reese McKee back taking on Daniel Franza. 80 grand is a wild man. Yeah, this is. How about these graphics? Look at that. Yeah, shout out to the graphics. More prelims. Loma look Boonmee versus Estella Nunez, Victor Henry, Pedro Falco. Vanessa the Mobulous.

That's your coin flip fight of the night. Minus 110 each way. What are we leaning? What is it? Stripper Jitsu? I don't have a pick. Do you have a read? I don't have a pick. All right. That's the curtain jerker. I don't need to be involved. I do not know on topology. They had Loma as the curtain jerker

Maybe I'm wrong. Oh am I wrong? Did they move up Vanessa? Did they move up? I don't know. I don't know This is this is the other thing. I don't know who to believe anymore. Yeah Loma and then Vanessa Okay, so Loma is the what a way to start that card. So yeah 6 p.m. start on Saturday. That's tough. Could have pushed that off a little bit. Could have just done four guys. It's tough. Yeah, we could have just done four.

But yeah, we got UFC fights this weekend. Main event is gonna be great. Co-man killers is gonna be great. And then 314 to look forward to next week. But that is next week and we will talk about that then. We still have more fights to talk about. PFL kicks off their first edition of this new world tournament style tonight.

So no more season. We're not gonna do the six points for a first round finish, four for a second, none of that. Then you get to the tournament. We're just starting with the tournament format from the jump. Win in advance.

Win in advance, which I actually like. I like the way they got rid of the season. If you're gonna do the tournament, do the tournament. $500,000 to the winner now instead of the million. Don't love that, it kinda loses a little bit of its allure, but I do like that it's just like, tournament is underway, may the best man win, eight fighters, it's not gonna be too long, it's not gonna be too big, it's going to be

concise and we will find out who's the best in each weight class. Totally agree with you, we talked, we did time on this one when the announcement was made that the purse was getting cut, the prize money was being cut, but do think about the fact that they are not having to go through the grind of that season then ultimately do a playoff on the backend of that and then the money is waiting on them. This feels like a much smoother path to it. Less fights.

I understand why maybe the prize money is cut and it makes sense to me now that I've seen kind of what they're going to do. If they were just going to run back the exact same thing where now you have to go through the season, you have to go through the tournament and the prize is now cut in half, that that's tougher to me, this ultimately makes sense. This is

basically a $500,000 tournament. There's no season, there's no other thing to worry about. You focus on winning these three fights, you get yourself half a million dollars. I kind of dig it. It also makes it shorter. We will know the champion by the end of August. Like this is like a four and a half month long tournament. And so like tonight we get welterweights and featherweights. They'll go on April 3rd, then they'll go again on June 12th. Then they'll go again on August 1st. So essentially too much in between each fight. The brackets are not bad for either of these divisions, man.

I mean, this is a nice card. They're starting strong here. Yeah, this is a nice card to start with. I also like that it's just an eight fight card. Doesn't have to be too crazy. The only thing that I'll say is that it's slated to start at eight o'clock, which you'll do four fights, and then 10 o'clock main card start,

which I'm assuming is another four fights, slotting 30 minutes for each fight. Something that always concerns me is PFL's pacing, but I do love the fact that it's just an eight fight card. I like the fact that they're doing it on Thursday, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. Don't go up against the UFC. Never go up against the UFC. And like I like the mixture of PFL and Bellator really utilizing their roster. Like you got Jason Jackson in the main event tonight. Yep. Poroschkov is a guy that if you're a

Bellator long- time Bellator fan, you will know that name as well, you know. Adam Borichs too, he was 9th June Bellator. 100%. Logan Storley. Yep. Like these top four fights, honestly, every fight, like I'm kind of looking forward to.

Like Nathan Kelly has spent time in both PFL and Bellator. He's got like nine fights between them. Really it's like other than the Yanis Bakar and Masayuki Kikirui fight, I know pretty much everyone on the card. Like you got Gabriel Braga, the Mukhmamed Burkhamov fight is good and then the top four are great. Yeah these are fighters if you've been paying attention to their promotion you will know them or if you have not I think these are fighters, if you've been paying attention to their promotion, you will know them. Or if you have not, I think these are good names to expose them to because these are some of the higher end athletes that they have on the roster. So I think they're smart in the way that they've started this off.

Fight you're most looking forward to tonight. I'm going Jesus Paneto versus Adam Boric. That one's going to be sick. That one's gonna be sick. I feel, okay, maybe I'm biased because I was picking Koroshkov to win this whole thing. Okay. Koroshkov and Jackson to me is like. I got Jackson. I know, and I feel like most people do, and I feel like, do we have odds on this yet?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's actually one thing that I wish they were doing. I think they have a partnership with DraftKings or someone. It would be great if they had Futures on these tournaments. That would make it so interesting in my opinion. I think that would be electric. Maybe they have them but they're not available here? Yeah, maybe, but I haven't seen anyone

mentioning the odds for it. I mean, Futures in MMA is just like a difficult thing. It's just kind of a weird line to walk, but yeah, I don't see anything right now. But I think that would be an excellent idea if obviously odds makers have to do it and books have to. I also feel like as opposed to the old format, it makes a lot more sense, right?

Because if you're somebody and you take a future, they go to the season, they get hurt, or they don't qualify. Now all of a sudden you're sitting on a wasted ticket. This much like the NCAA tournament that's happening right now, bracket like you know the the NCAA tournament that's happening right now bracket you know the path give me this person and let's see if they can win I like that right now yeah Jackson sitting minus 230 Korshkov sitting plus 190 it makes sense I'm uh I'm back in the dog I think he's gonna take this all the way. I love it. Wow, all the way.

Mo Vlid against Jeremy Kennedy, massive favorite, minus 800 to Kennedy's plus 550. That feels a little steep. Just the way Mo Vlid fights, like he goes to mostly decisions and like sometimes they can get kind of dicey with how close they are. He does, but he was also kind of explosive

when he needs to be, right? We've seen all the flying knees, especially the one against Damon Jackson. I think was the one that like really was insane, but He sometimes it is a bit of that wrestling I do ultimately think though that's the path to victory, right? If you want to keep Jeremy Kennedy from getting his offense off you you want to stifle him in that way That does feel like a steep line to me. Although that said, I've got Movly as my champion.

Actually, can we look at our brackets? Let's look back at Featherweight first. Another like fascinating matchup. All right, so this one's mine. Look at New Yorker Xpix, the official branding. Look at this. This is sick, dude. Beautiful.

Oh, so you got Boric going all the way to the finals. So he's actually a slight dog to Pineda tonight. I know, and I really think Pineda is, like, everybody in this bracket, I think, is really good. This bracket is one of those that I look at, and it might be one of my favorites of the tournament, that I'm like, yeah, everybody in these fights is great. Braga versus Pineda, if they get to that fight, that's going to be a banger.

Boric versus Braga, that could potentially be great. As we said, MovLead, Nathan Kelly, I've got Kelly advancing. I think ultimately, yeah, like I'm betting on the experience here, and that was also what I was kind of doing with the Khoroshkov, is like I'm taking the guys who have been through the game and the ringer,

and that's why I'm thinking Boric is with the Koroshkov is like I'm taking the guys who have been through the game and the ringer and that's why I'm thinking Boric is able to get toward the finals of the tournament. It's also tough to see the the success that Russians have had in this in this tournament style. And then Movalid's undefeated he's never lost before and it just feels like the bracket is wide open for him to win. What are my picks? I know I have Movalid winning it. I have Pinedo. I've had Braga, which I feel very strongly about the Braga pick. He is currently sitting at minus 550 to Dupras's plus 400. Yeah, we basically have the same bracket except I have Boric going down that

path and you have Pinedo. Nathan Kelly is a slight dog. Nathan Kelly is a slight dog against Taekyun Kim. I mean I like Nathan Kelly in that one I think he gets it done but it's it's a fascinating style. That's a strong bracket. It's a strong bracket. Welterweight if we could take a quick look at that can we talk about the biggest break of the tournament Logan Storly was supposed to take on Magomed Umaladov was a plus 250 in that one. Logan was a plus 250. Now he takes on Joseph Luciano a minus 375. Yeah. And like it just feels like the the bracket is open with the Yanis Bakar and the Masayuki Kikirui fight. It just feels like he's

gonna be a favorite. If he gets past Luciano tonight he'll be a favorite in that one as well. If Logan Storley does not make it to the final of the tournament, something went massively wrong. For sure. There was some kind of blunder. And then Berkhamov, also a massive underdog. I think we both have him against that gene, that gene, you know, but I think Berkhamov gets it done.

And then Jason Jackson is where we differentiate. I actually have Jason Jackson winning the entire thing. One of us will lose our winner tonight. One of us will lose our winner come tonight. Because yeah, as I said, you know, when I was talking about- Both have Storli in the final, man. It is wide open for Logan Storli. I think the experience, man, I just like, look,

I think Jason Jackson is extremely talented. To beat Amasav, like you're a a guy you're like a real dude but there's something about just like how many reps how many times I've seen Karshikov just like get in there and go to war people that I feel like is built for a tournament like this and I think he'll be ready to go and so I'm look this I could have a all over my face he's a a big dog. I could look like a clown. They'll roll back this footage. But I'm betting on the experience.

I'm thinking that he's gonna be able to get it done. Yeah, it's gonna be great. I think it's gonna be fun. Me, you, Pizzi, Ariel, all have our picks in. We'll be able to follow along with the brackets as it goes along the season, do a little point system, a little wage on the line, a little dinner on the line. Oh yeah, it's dinner, right?

Yeah. That's tonight, right? Yeah. That's tonight, obviously kicks off with welterweights and featherweights. What bracket, beyond the two that we just looked at, are you most looking forward to? That's a great question. Let me look back at these right now.

Mine's a no-brainer, I'll take it off. Okay, you go first while I look. The lightweight bracket. It's just kind of like similar to the UFC. It's just such a talent depth, three division throughout all of mixed martial arts. And I think we really have potential to set up. I mean, Alexander Shobly and Godzi Rabadonov

on opposite sides of the bracket is massive. I think that could be a sick final. I think we both have that as our final, right? Yeah, but then you could have Clay Collard against Shobly in round two. Marty Casey, a UFC veteran, it could somehow make a run through this. And then Mads Brunel, JJ Wilson, two Bellator guys could potentially make a run as well. It's just like names that you

recognize, fighters that put on entertaining fights. You got Brent Primus and Clay Collard both in the first round that that could move on. Brent Primus in a tough spot against Chobly after fighting Robert Donov in the final last year. I just feel like this one has the most potential to have sick matchups. Lightweight and featherweight are right here for me. Yeah. But there's one and it's middleweight.

Okay. It's gotta be middleweight. All right. Impa versus Fabian Edwards, first round. Sick fight. Sick fight. Off jump. You got Shipman and Silveira. You've got Dalton Rasta on the other side.

Aaron Jeffrey. I mean, Sadi Boucet was a PFL champion. Former champ has been in the PFL since they're in, I believe since the start. He's been in all these tournaments. Yeah. Um, Ramazanov like this one's pretty stacked. This, this one's got a lot of names that

you're going to recognize. And also I think like, there's going to be a lot of competitive matchups here. Like I've got Aaron Jeffreyery going to the final. I could just as easily kind of see Dalton Rasta going to the final. Like it's one of those that I don't know, I don't ultimately know who's like,

I feel like Impa is the best of the field, but I don't think it's by leaps and bounds. And I ultimately don't really know who's kind of gonna make it here. It could be a completely different bracket from my bracket and it wouldn't even shock me. So that kind of like surprise factor and the fact that it's all like recognizable names

who I think have path to victories in all these fights, to me, that's the most compelling. I really like middleweight. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting and I like how the schedule is moving along for them. I mean, you got the third, the 11th, the 18th, you take a couple of weeks off, May 1st, and then it's just gonna restart.

It's almost like legs of Champions League. Like you have to wait like a month or two in between each, but they keep you entertained by like the third, the 11th, the 18th, May 1st. All right, so now you've done the four. Now you only have to wait five weeks until the semi-finals start up, and then that goes. And then you have to wait another four weeks,

and then the World Championships start up. Yeah. I also kind of like that we're spreading out the world championships across three cards. Yeah, I really did like it upon induction. I really love the idea of like we have this championship night. Every fight is a championship, but ultimately I think what was happening was like the because it's a tournament. It's not always going to be like the most compelling names, right? It's not necessarily going to be like everybody can invest in every single story. If you didn't follow those stories, these are just random fights on a card. So that idea that it's for a championship doesn't really mean anything because you weren't like

following along with the story. By separating it out, I think each of them has a little bit more time to breathe, a little bit more time for you to get invested. The format I think works a little bit better. Ultimately, we will see how this compares. You know, like it's easy for us to kind of like forecast this now. Let's see at the end of the season how this ultimately compares. I think these are good changes. I really do believe that the PFL has like found something better here in terms of the tournament. The results will be what ultimately speaks. I like what I like, thought they have put into changing this and I think this will play better. Yeah I'm very curious to see how it plays out and I want to see the fan reaction as well.

Something a little bit different. We'll see if it's a success but that kicks off tonight Thursday. I like the Thursday cards as well not going up against the UFC but we'll see what happens. Don't love the the late night starts, and there's a couple Friday ones that are like 11 p.m. kickoffs. I'm also curious as to what it's gonna look like at Universal Studios. Yeah, I mean, that's a million dollar question,

and that's what inspired our, actually it's the half million dollar question, and that's what inspired our pound for pound later today. Yeah, we'll get into that later. But before we do that, let's recap last week from a picks perspective, Parlay Pals, my picks, and then a couple big hitters before we do this week's picks. Let's start with Parlay Pals recap.

We win, but we don't get the full odds because Joe Pfeiffer obviously, he had the pullout due to this the stomach illness that he got in Mexico if that's altitude you know that's what they always say so we don't move into the green but we move that much closer we're now just down 0.46 units and hopefully we'll get another win still a win is a win and that's that's all the parlay pals can Still, a win is a win, and that's all the Parlay pals can ask for. A win is a win. My recap, I won a couple units.

Bad call on Dober. Close fight with Pylostri though. Lupita takes it by UD, and then the Gaudier, Medina over one and a half. Looked good until it didn't. Looked good until Medina called on the dogs and got KO'd into the sun. But we still won two units, up 46.38 overall,

so it'll be all right. And then big hitters, gotta shout out some people from last week. Some of these people just blow my mind with the success that they have. We will start with the man, the myth, the legend, the goat of all goats, Jason, look him up on Twitter. He turned a thousand and fifty dollars

and a hundred sixty dollar free bet. So these are two separate wagers? Three. Into fifty five thousand five hundred dollars. Let's go through the slips here. First one up and obviously these are very small here, so I will read them all for you. This one is plus 2304. This is a $650 wager to win $15,626 over two and a half in the Maderos-Hubbard fight, under two and a half in the Emmer's-Miranda fight, over two and a half in the Garcia-Pichele fight, under one and a half in the Medina-Gaudier fight, under two and a half in the Garcia Pichel fight. Under one and a half in the Medina Gaudier fight.

Under two and a half in the Martinez Oliveira fight. And under one and a half in another fight. And then over four and a half in the Brandon Moreno Steve Ersik fight. I can't read what the other under one and a half is. But seven legs plus 23. Seven different over unders. Yep, and put $650 on it to win fifteen thousand six hundred twenty six

Gives out slips like this every single week doesn't ask for any payment a true goat the next up six pick parlay plus five thousand five hundred fifty two puts four hundred dollars down to win twenty two thousand six hundred and ten Maderas by decision plus 120 check Jamal Emmer's to win by KO minus 105 check Hafa Garciaeiros by decision, plus 120, check. Jamal Emerson to win by KO, minus 105, check. Hafa Garcia to win by decision, minus 200, check. Audubay Gaudier to win by KO, minus 135, check. David Martinez to win by KO, plus 140, check. Brandon Moreno to win by decision, plus 110, check.

Six picks, plus 5,052. And then last but not least, this is where he used his bonus bet on a plus 10,839 four leg parlay $160 bonus bet to get paid $17,343.20. He goes, Audubay Gaudier to win by KO in round one plus 240, check. Manuel Torres round one plus 240, check. Manuel Torres, round one plus 200, check.

Jamal Emers to win by KO in round one plus 225, check. David Martinez to win by KO in round one plus 230, check. So it started with seven over-unders, then it went to six individual methods, then it went to four method in round. Yep. Wow. Nailed them. Wow.

Nailed them. That is insanely impressive. $1,050 worth of steak plus $160 bonus bet turned it into $55,000 American dollars. Absolutely insane. Two other ones to shout out, Ho Nickel, he went, he went 13 legs, $2.69 into 102 plus 37.16. A lot of fight to start round X and over unders and then randomly threw in Raul Rosas Jr. in there.

So shout out to Ho on that one. Congratulations on your winning. And then last but not least, at six MMA too, four leg parlay, $5 into 210. Brandon Moreno by decision plus 120. Check. Manuel Torres by KO round one plus 350. Check.

Edgar Chires by submission plus 260. Check it off. And then goes round and exacta on Manuel Torres goes Moreno by decision goes Edgar Shiraz by submission plus 260 and then just lobs on the Rallo Roses money line minus 550. Maybe that's one of those that he was like thinking submission or decision and he didn't really know which way to go you know maybe he was he was feeling hesitant. Yeah, yeah.

$5 into 210 is pretty great work for Big Six MMA too. So shout out to him and shout out to all the big hitters. Congratulations on your winnings. Now, let's do the Parlay Palace for this week. The winning ticket for this week. Randomizer? Randomizer, already have Pizzi's pick, locked in. What does he got?

I will be going first, Rick will be going second, and Frank will be going third. The caboose. Pizzi's going with Joe Anderson Brito in that co-main event. In that scrap. And I will actually be going with Joe Anderson Brito in that co-main event. In that scrap. And I will actually be going with Kennedy Nzichukwu, minus 360 on the money line.

Joe Anderson Brito is minus 238, and that'll give us to you. You can also do PFL if you guys want to. PFL is tonight, you can do that if you want to. I'm going to do PFL. Look at you. And I'm gonna take Mauvelead. I think that's my guy.

I'm riding him all the way to the end of the tournament Give me Mowgli, Habu live Shout out. Sick. Think that's a good pick. Frankie? Speaking of good picks Lerone Murphy, Moneyline. Don't mind telling ya. Look at big Josh back there, baby on the ones and twos running it Oh, gotta wave Jordan you're on thin ice. Yeah, he's just been making different poses and taking selfies this entire time. I'm really just playing chess Hey, what's out out you what is the uh, that's a major, bro. I'm not afraid to tell you Frank. I didn't get that reference It wasn't a reference oh all right, okay, so the pick is the wrong speech man

I'm not trying to start with your speech Frank the pick is the wrong Murphy first amendment dog all right the pick is the wrong Murphy oh the pick is the room Murphy yeah all right so that gets us Jo Anderson Brito Mowgli Kennedy in the choukwu the wrong Murphy plus 171 look at Josh quick on the fire typing it as we say it plus 171 faster look at Josh, quick on the fire. Typing it as we say it. Plus 171. Faster than Jordan even. Get the dub here where you will be up one American unit. All time.

I love it. I love it. I'm ready. Little mixture of PFL, knock one out tonight. Only have three legs to worry about on Saturday. I like it. I like it a lot. All right, now let me rip through my picks very quickly. I will have three bets on PFL. Nathan Kelly, I like him as a

slight dog. Tonight to advance to the second round. Next up, my Dark Horse. Oh wait, nope, this isn't my Dark Horse. This is just a dog shot that I like. Berkhamov, the experience that he has. That gene, only eight fights in his professional career. I think Berkhamov can get the takedowns. I think he can win this fight. Willing to take a dog shot on a guy with almost 20 professional fights, 17 wins against a guy who doesn't even have 10 professional fights. And then my dark horse, Masayuki Kikirui. Watch out for him in a stacked, stacked bracket. Watch out for him. But I like him as a favorite tonight to advance to the second round,

to the UFC card. Couple unders that I like. Barbossa, Belbita, I think Barbossa just puts it on her. I think she absolutely storms her minus 1100 favorite. I think she. Oh wow, really? Yeah, minus 1100 favorite. I think she just puts it on her.

I think she takes her to the ground and she, she finishes her before the 12 and a half minutes have passed. And then, Co-man, I mean, it feels like you gotta take it, right, Co-man of Apex guards, you just gotta take the under. Next Co-man. Brito Sabatini, four straight under two and a half for Sabatini, five of six under two and a half for Brito. Yeah, I think this one goes under two killers. Very much looking forward to

that one. Two parlays for you. I'm going with Mauve Lied as well, but I am going with Jason Jackson. I think my favorite to get it done, I'm gonna trust them to get it done in round one. And then a UFC parlay. Kennedy, my pick from Parlay Pals, and Lerone Murphy. I don't know if Lerone Murphy becomes a champion, but I don't think he falters here on this one. And those are the picks. Couple picks on PFL, three, couple picks on UFC. Mixing it up.

One Parlay on UFC, one Parlay on PFL, trying to get it mixy and trying to keep going up on the charts and stacking up the green. All right, one last thing to do before we get out of here and that is our pound for pound rankings. We talked about the PFL card taking place in Universal Studios. Two things we wanna do before we get out of here though. Answer questions, get your super chats in.

So please, Chad, keep them coming. Let's stack them up, let's read them, let's answer them. Let's do it. Right,. Let's stack them up, let's read them, let's answer them. Let's do it. Right, so next up we're gonna do the pound for pound rankings, best theme park rides, because PFL is taking place at Universal Studios. Anybody been to Universal Studios? I have, but many years ago.

Okay, have you, Frankie? I have. Oh, sick. But the one, is there one in California? Yeah, there is.? Yeah there is. Yeah there is. That's the one I went to. Right so I think y'all's lists are probably

gonna blow mine out of the water. I have been to Coney Island, I have been to Six Flags Over Georgia, that was the place that I grew up going to, and I went to Disney World when I was younger, like much younger. So like my options are limited. Frankie, you tell me the order.

The order today is, I'll start, then we'll go to Connor. Oh. And then we'll finish it up with Rick. All right. Don't see that often. I don't think I've ever pulled up a career. I don't think we've actually done this one before. So here we go.

Like Connor, I actually thought, I've probably only been to like two amusement parks in my life. I've gone to theme parks, you know, things like the Ren Faire, Medieval Times, that sort of thing, but they don't really have rides there. But I do have a few. So we're gonna start off slow. My number five is actually in Disney World. The People Mover. Now for those who don't know, the People Mover is essentially a way to get from point a to point b inside Tomorrowland at Disney World and it takes a trip around the entire area to kind of show you what the

whole lay of the land is my favorite aspect of this is because if you know anything about Walt Disney and Tomorrowland it's just like what the you know the rich and privileged envisioned what the future would look like and And it was literally like, let's make a device so we could just move people efficiently without having to worry about it. So it's kind of a little look behind the curtain. What, do you just ride like an escalator? No, that's on your way to the thing.

Oh, OK, OK, OK. Which the escalator's probably the most fun. Right, like the idea is like, they'll move us. We don't have to get off our bus. Exactly. But I just think it's so funny that it's like almost megalomania to be like well I was just move people call it the people mover little do they know people would just stop getting up They just stay seated and never move only Wally right you remember when I yeah there we go

Coming in at number four actually have to remember the order that I submitted these one second Jordans yeah, this one's back in Disney, one of the two places I've been. And this is the Tower of Terror featuring Twilight Zone. Oh, man, I love this ride. So for those that don't know, you'll never know because it's no longer open. Wow, really, I actually didn't know that. In fact.

Rest in peace. Yeah. Exactly. So what happens, they bring you up slowly. Wow, really I actually didn't know that yeah Rest in peace yeah Exactly so what happens they bring you up slowly you know the the anxiety is building they're trying to kind of freak you out with the lights and all that good stuff and the What do they call them cast members Andy the the people that actually work at Disney or not okay? The cast members you call them that yeah, I think yeah anyway So you go there then the doors open and like, oh, lo and behold, you've actually been pushed to the front of the tower. You can see the entire park.

And you're like, oh wow, this is really nice. Let me grab my camera. No, because it drops your ass before you could even reach it to your pocket. And you're like, all right, well, I'll just write it again. No, because then it brings you back up and you're like, all right, I'm going to grab my camera. Drops you again. This happens like two or three times before it finally comes down. You're like, holy shit. I didn't know I was gonna do that I mean you probably didn't know it's gonna do that, but you act surprised you rode the Tower of Terror. It's a good time

Coming at number three Which is similar to the Tower of Terror, but this was in Astroworld for those Travis Scott fans You probably know what I'm talking about. It's the dungeon drop now There's a bit of a story behind this one and excuse this potato image that I found on the internet. Is Astroworld Houston? Correct that's Six Flags Over Texas and Houston, which I believe was the second park the first one was open closer to Dallas Okay, this one was around for a long time It's what I used to go to growing up and I was actually afraid of heights like most of my childhood and then when I was probably a preteen I was like you know what I'm gonna go to Astral World and

I'm gonna ride the rides and the first one I'm gonna ride is Dungeon Drop so I went there right when they opened I think I was like one out of like maybe half a dozen people that were right in this thing. It takes you so high up to the top, you could see most of the city. And the same thing with Tower of Terror, it's like right when you think like, okay, this is kind of comfortable,

it drops you like so quickly, you can feel your stomach in your mouth, it's great. I've always been terrified of these. Can I ask you? As you should be, because I've been in the park a few times where like, people have gotten stuck up there. Oh, I've never heard heard that before. And they're making announcements where they're like, oh nobody be worried, you know, everyone's comfortable, you get to see their feet dangling and it's like, holy shit, but that day I just decided to rip the

bandaid off. I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna confront my fear of heights and then I had a great time at the park the rest of the day. What was your question? Two questions, Frank. One, you conquered your fear of heights on that day are you still nervous when you get on these rides or are you now like the opposite you're like a junkie now I think I made the right move like no one even pressured me into it which I think was always the problem people would be like oh just come ride this ride you'll have fun it was like I made the decision one day I'm like I'm just gonna go and I'm gonna tackle the tallest thing here and

just show myself I'm not really worried about it now what I get I mean it's kind of That vertigo feeling you're up too high It's like yeah, but if I just fell that's a little weird, but you're going on all the rides You're not going on all the rides second question. Did you take this photo? Otherwise, why did we submit the worst possible photo that's ever been taken in human history? You know to be honest a lot of the photos that I found only showed like half of it more like didn't show that it was actually any I mean first it just looked like a giant tower yeah and most of the images are from when this thing was still in commission because it's no longer

existing yet okay world has been turned into a parking lot I will say this ride is a very common ride even though not specifically this like one with this name the idea on the name of Dungeon Drop man what are you doing of everybody is a very common ride, even though not specifically this one with this name. The idea of- What's the spec on the name of Dungeon Drop? And what are you doing here? Of everybody sitting around the outside and it just going up and down. That's like a very common ride.

Yeah, in Georgia it was acrophobia. Yeah. And I think at some park across the country, like a cable snapped and like cut someone's feet off. Yeah, we're not gonna talk about that, but that did happen. There always has to be an element of danger. Are we shitting on Dungeon Drop right now?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we're just saying- Wow, Yeah yeah yeah. Dungeon Drop has been redone and rebranded many different times. Sounds Astroworld though. We could have found a picture is what I'm saying. Okay keep going. Oh so I should have found like a picture of another ride that was similar to Dungeon Drop. The same thing. Yeah the same thing. Oh okay I get what you're saying. Coming in at number two also from Astral World called Grease Lightning Now this ride is it actually spelled with the Z absolutely Oh, I love that and the apostrophe at the end instead of a G I don't know like people were just getting a little you know crazy I think this this actually opened way when Astral World first opened so like it was pretty old

But really cool concept it takes you through a loop immediately You go all the way so that's the start of the ride the first thing is that loop that you hit oh shit go all the way to the top and then BAM you go back to the loop backwards sends you back up again this happens two or three times where yeah it's just uh that's actually to the point when Asher World closed they moved this to like Lubbock I think and then they moved it to Kansas like they've been from what I understand it might actually be somewhere in New York now Like this same ride. Yeah, so there we go love that and then my number one absolute favorite ride that I have ever ridden and

I wrote it several times is the rock and roller coaster Featuring Aerosmith this was at Disney World as well Went to Disneyland I think in high school or Disney World excuse me went to Disney World in high school for a robotics tournament of all things and first thing we did in the morning there was no line I get on this ride it's all indoors so I'm like how bad can it be instead of like taking you up on a vertical right like building the suspense you get in these cars you know the the actual train looks like a car,

it pulls you back on a spring, like very much like Sonic the Hedgehog, right? And then it shoots you off and you go inside, the entire indoors is black, like black lights with like neon colors going everywhere, and you immediately go through two corkscrews right off the bat. So it's like right before you even realize what's going on,

you're going 5G's, I think is what I read like it's insane and the entire time they're blaring Aerosmith with speakers that are built into the seats themselves the best part of this is like I wrote it had such a good time when I got off the ride there was still no line I get to ride this thing four or five times back to back without any like real wait time in between maybe 10 to 15 minutes each time so I Recommend it it's no longer in commission much like all of these rides I think except for the people mover are no longer existing. So that's my list. It's a vintage list

It's a well done Frankie. Yeah, I really wonder how much this is gonna resonate with people just because it's gonna be like our own specific It's gonna be like our own local experiences growing up. I think mine will be a little more universal. All right, I'm going too. Wow, universal, shout out. Nah. Nice plan, words. All right, mine number five,

I actually have never ridden it. I just wanted to give a shout out to the area just because of its legendary stature just across the river. Kingda Kaat, Six Flags Great Adventure, when it was built, the tallest roller coaster in the world, the fastest roller coaster in the world since Ferrari World has passed. I mean, look at how tall this thing is.

It's absolutely massive. Tallest roller coaster, fastest roller coaster in the world, since been passed by like Ferrari World and one other for the tallest, but they built it, they tore it down over in Jersey, and now they're gonna build a new one that's gonna pass all the other records. Okay.

Just like, I have been on Kingda Ka. Oh, is it crazy? In fact, I went on Kingda Ka opening day. The first day of the park opened with Kingda Ka. Wow, that's sick. And. Great name, great name. I saw somebody go up, a train in front of us go up on Kingda Ka and get stuck at the top of Kingda Ka. Oh my

god. And then we had to wait while they got them out. On opening day. On opening day and then we went and we were fine. I don't know if I would have gotten on if I saw someone get stuck on opening day. I would have been like. I wanted to go so bad. Wow. Because of the fact that it was the biggest, fastest coaster in the world. Ultimately, review? Not a great coaster. More, like, when you look at other roller coasters, and you look at Kingda Cop, it's just like a straight shot, and then a straight up and a straight down.

It doesn't quite get the momentum, and also, quite frankly, you're going so fast, you don't, and it's so smooth, you don't get that like stomach drop. It's actually more like an, I describe it as like more of an experience than a roller coaster. Like it's almost like when you hit that weightlessness

after you hit the first curve and then you're going down, you kind of have this like experience that I've never had before, but it doesn't give you that like, oh shit. Yeah, like oh shit. Yeah, it doesn't give you that like, oh shit. Yeah, it doesn't give you that. And it's almost too fast. Okay.

But opening day, Kingda Ka, I was there. That's sick. Because I wanted to ride that shit so bad. That's sick. Number four, don't need to give too much explanation. Frankie covered it. Tower of Terror at Disney World. I actually had no idea that this was gone.

One of the first roller coasters I ever rode, I rode it with my dad, rode it with my brother, pretty crazy. Grew up watching the Twilight Zone, shout out, Tower of Terror. Number three, another local legend, the Cyclone down on Coney Island, opened in 1927. One of the most iconic, one of the most famous in the world, look at how old that picture is.

The only thing is, this thing will beat your ass. It is an old wooden roller coaster. It shakes you around. Your knees are banging. Your head's getting shaken around. But that's kind of the fun in it. When did we do it? When did you go?

Summer of 2022. Did the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. Oh man, that's a day. Spent the day, then went back to my apartment, did a big pregame with a bunch of friends. Then we went back down, went to a Brooklyn Cyclones game named after the roller coaster. And then we rode a bunch of rides that night. went back down, went to a Brooklyn cyclones game named after the roller coaster. And then we rode a bunch of rides.

You did the Coney Island. Like that's it. Wow. Good for you. Number two, if you're from Georgia, if you're from the area, this is an absolutely legendary coaster. If you're fortunate enough to get on it, it's

something you can put on your resume. Deja vu at Six Flags Over Georgia. Very similar to what Frankie had. You go up and you shoot up one of those towers, right? Like you're facing forward and you go all the way up, it brings you up to the top and then it drops you and you do it backwards. And then you go up the other tower and now you're,

and it was one of those ones where your feet are hanging, sort of like the one in Georgia was Batman, like your feet are hanging. That is the Batman ride at Six Flags in Jersey as well. Yeah, I think that might just be like a chain one. And then you would go and it would go backwards the other way and now you're facing down. And when you go the other way, you're facing up.

The thing is, it was scary. It was scary as hell. I did like, my friends had to like drag my ass on there. It was the thing that made it also even scarier, it was always closed for like maintenance, repairs, things were wrong, and like you would just randomly go growing up and it would be like, dude, Deja Vu's open today.

It's like, oh shit, I don't even really want to ride it. It's like, no, we're riding it, it's open. This is our one chance. Has since been closed, but Deja Vu, legendary coaster at Six Flags Over Georgia. Then I finished with another Six Flags Over Georgia. That's the theme park I went to when I was growing up. Goliath, the biggest, the baddest,

it's like a 200 foot drop. Okay, so this is the train cars. And if you look and you see, cause there's no loops, it's just massive, massive hills and drops and you get up to like 85 miles an hour, something like that. If you see the belts,

like it's just like this thing that they put on your lap. Oh yeah. Okay? I sat front row just like that on the outside edge where that woman on the left is sitting there screaming. The guy came by to check it and he clicked it and he pushed it down really hard.

So it was really tight. And I was like, all right, that's fine. But like, this is pretty tight. Now, if we can go to the other picture we have here, you go all the way up that, that's fine, but like, this is pretty tight. Now, if we can go to the other picture we have here, you go all the way up that, that is the opening hill, and then you just do this like straight down vertical drop. It's massive.

That looks like a very tall one. Very, very tall. It was like a big deal when it opened in 06. It was one of the tallest coasters in the country. You're going up it, and then you just plummet, and it's crazy. It's this unbelievable, like the drop you were talking about, the dropping sensation.

When we started going down, because it was so tight, it clicked up just one. Oh no. Oh no. It just clicked up one, which in hindsight, that's all that happened, but when we were going down, I felt it click up one, and I grabbed onto it like a football, and I'm like screaming to my friends, I'm like,

I think my fucking belt came on down, I think my belt came on down and I'm like screaming to my friends I'm like I THINK MY F**KING BELL CAME ON DOWN I THINK MY BELL CAME ON DOWN I'm like AHHHH Where's your adrenaline level at that point? Heart is pounding, I had a feeling that I haven't felt since like that I thought I was gonna die I was like OH MY GOD I am like screaming to my friends I'm like MY BELL

MY BELL CAME ON DOWN and it was like the scariest thing ever I haven't ridden it since that's how scary it was Now that you survived though you have to admit that was probably the best rollercoaster of your? And it was like the scariest thing ever. I haven't ridden it since. That's how scary it was. Now that you survived though, you have to admit, that was probably the best roller coaster of your life. Oh, it was crazy. It was crazy. And also like I got back and I was like, dude, the thing, the thing, and he's just like,

oh, like I may have clicked it too tight and it just clicked up like to one more. You're like, yeah, thanks, bud. Yeah, dude. Figured that out. Oh, it's terrifying, but yeah, good life. Shut up. Wow.

So far I'm very impressed. This is a great list. I will say, you know, the Wollum Def woolen to fo mean I'm something of a roller coaster man Okay, you know I'm a little bit of a roller coaster guy. Um alright. We're gonna keep this we're gonna keep this Family-friendly to start let's just say that you walk into the park whether it be the carnival whether it be the amusement park You see these bad boys? You're there bumper cars bumperper cars. Bumper cars number five. This is my speed. This. Wow. This is quintessential amusement park. You just love

ramming people. I want to just ram into people, whether it be my friends, whether it be my family, whether it be strangers that I've never met. We're going to battle in these cars. Maybe it's like from my love of like Fast and Furious and like racing movies and cars from back in the day and all these things bumper cars are did they just speak to me I feel like a ride yeah what do you mean yeah yeah of course you have to wait online to do it just like any of the other rides attraction but I love it I kind of lean Jordan attraction but you're riding in the vehicle if we're gonna be that all right Jordan Attraction, but I'll, I'll, it'll plot. It's a ride. It's a ride. It's definitely a ride. You're riding in the vehicle.

Not a very good ride. If we're gonna be that, all right, look, you know what? The rest of these will count, so if you're gonna ding me on that. This will play, this will play. This plays, bumper cars are sick. I love bumper cars. To your point, I just wanna get in there and smash people.

I just wanna get in there and let's go to war with these cars. It's fun, you get whiplash, it's great. All right, number four. This one's more traditional. Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind. This is at Disney World right now when I went with my family.

So even though this might be a rendering, but it is a very full screen, almost sphere-like. You're in a place that has these digital effects around and it is just fully immersive. You're flying through space. Kind of like a space mountain. It's like space mountain for a crazy new generation. Like your version of space mountain

has now got 2025 technology. And it opened in Disney World. We were able to ride it. It's absolutely incredible. And even my six year old daughter, Avery wrote it. I think she was fearful for her life by the end of it. We had a great time. The seats move in place, the car moves,

you're looking around, you're seeing celestial objects in outer space. It's an absolutely crazy experience. It kind of reminds me of the way you described the Aerosmith ride. I think you would really like it, Frank. But it does go ridiculously fast. I admit, it looks cool.

Yeah, it's sick. In this picture, I don't know if they're really having a good fast. I admit it looks cool. Yeah, it's sick. And this picture like, I don't know if they're really having a good time. Like, I don't know. Like, it just, that just struck me. This is very much the like stock like photo. This is provided by Disney. This is like the like, trust me,

when you're on it, you're screaming. It's not just like- A couple open mouth, the dad in the back, it's just like, yeah. He's not even looking up. No, you're gonna be grabbing onto something. It's absolutely incredible. Highly recommend, great ride at Disney World.

Number three, another carnival ride, another one that you can find at amusement parks and carnivals, but staple, must do, Gravitron. Holy shit. Shout out to the Gravitron. Do you know what the Gravitron is? Oh, and you stick to the side of the thing and it spins?

Oh, boy. You jump on this bad boy. You see it's the flying saucer shape thing that you get in. This guy standing on it. Did you do this when you were? No, no, no. I did this. Oh, that's great.

Me and my boys used to get up on it. You can see the people clinging for life. Yeah, that was me. Then you see the one dude who's just standing there like, this thing don't affect me. I mean, shit looks like you're just paralyzed up against the wall. That's what it is. If you don't know, the force of it, the centrifugal force, because of it, is pushing you to the wall.

So you can do things like this gentleman is doing in standing up. This is a lunch loser if you've got a weak stomach. This is not the one to go on because it's pure just spinning in place. But the force is crazy. Love it. Must do it. I haven't done it in a few years I wonder as I'm getting older and older and older maybe my stomach. I'm too old. I might not be able to get anymore

I do love it. Gravitron is a staple number two This one means a lot to me. This one means a lot. It's one of my favorites It's been mentioned actually by one of you. And in fact, it's been mentioned by both of you. It's the Tower of Terror. Shout out to the Tower of Terror. Now here's an important fact. You guys mentioned specific parks.

This is actually available at many, many different Disney parks. Not just World, it's available at Land, it's available at some of the overseas ones as well. There are variations, but as Frank described, it is you think you're safe and it's a perilous drop to the bottom, then you're going back up, then you're dropping.

What I love about this ride, in comparison to many others, is not just the ride itself, which up and down vertical movement, incredible. I think that's a great format for a ride. But also, unlike when you walk into an amusement park and you look at that big coaster and you go, I can't do that, I can't get on that, this one kind of tricks you.

It's just a hotel, it's just a tower. You're just going to it. It tricks the people that think like, maybe I can handle this one into getting on it, and then they can't handle it. So speaking of that, speaking of people who maybe don't handle the ride so well, I was in California,

Disneyland, for a work event around UFC Anaheim card, I think it was Steve Bay and DC and Pettis and Nate were on the co-main event, but we were there and as ESPN employees, you have access to Disneyland, so after we were done with work for one of the days, we went to Disneyland and we rode, at that time it was not okay. So you guys said, or Frank may have said, Tower of Terror is closed. That is accurate, but what has

actually happened is that it has been rebranded. At the time that we went, it was a Guardians of the Galaxy ride that did exactly the same thing as Tower of Terror. It was just Tower of Terror, but a rebrand as a Guardians of the Galaxy ride. It's Twilight Zone's out, you know. Twilight Zone's kind of an old reference. So it became Guardians of the Galaxy. I rode Guardians of the Galaxy when we went on that work trip. But there was somebody with me. Ah!

One Ariel Hawhani and I rode the Tower of Terror, rebranded as the Guardians of the Galaxy ride. Me with a very fluorescent pink shirt. I was just going to say, is that a short sleeve hoodie? That one you were wearing. Yes, actually it is. Okay, wow, that's a great eye. I didn't even think of this.

Ariel and I have a mutual friend named Andy Mayer. Shout out to Andy Mayer. Long, long time fans of the MMA Hour will know Andy Mayer. He was involved in some things that we did on that show. He opened a business called Poke OG and he gave me a pink hooded shirt. So great spot by you. As you can see, Ariel was terrified,

but I will say respect, the dude did it. I feel like he was. Hey, he got on, still rocking the platter. It was if you, whether we were gonna get him on it, he was on it, we rode it, he actually had a good time. It was fun. Your eyes open, everyone else is just like chilling, just like yeah, and he's just, eyes shut.

This was pre-drop. This is when they, you know, they're just dropping you and you don't know when the timing of it is gonna be. Shout out to the Tower of Terror, all time great ride. All time. This is my number one. When we decided we were gonna do rides, there was nothing else that was even in the debate.

I had no hesitation about number one. Number one was the easiest call in the world. Because I love this ride so much, I will ride it anytime I'm at that park. That is El Toro Six Flags Great Adventure over here in New Jersey. Oh my goodness, is this wooden? This is wooden. And you know, like all the rides that we've been showing and looking at, you got a lot of the steel rides. When you talk about the heights, by the way, that's Kingda Ka in the back over there. El Toro is next to Kingda Ka.

Kingda Ka. When you talk about these rides, a lot of the modern coasters are steel because you can just build them a little bit stronger. You can get a little bit higher heights. Kingda Ka bucks that trend. This is a massive coaster. That is wooden. El Toro.

El Toro. Bucks the trend. But this is my favorite thing about El Toro. And I would argue that it has the best opening to any roller coaster ever. It, the, the first drop and then the subsequent two little drops are the best opening to any coaster ever. Please put that picture back up.

Cause I want to just point out something. If you look on the far left of that image, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very far left, right up against that edge, that first drop is damn near vertical. And the better illustration of it is if you look at the one next to Kingda Ka, not that loop that's right next to it,

but you look at the one right to the right of that. That is a damn near vertical wooden drop roller coaster. Now is the hill all the way on the right? That's the climb. That's the up? That's the climb. Wow. The drop is the other one.

Once you turn that corner, you're damn near going straight down. Then you're hitting in the wooden roller coaster, second, third bump, and then you're going all the way around. Rickety as fuck. Whiplash for days. The best coaster in America for my money. Save your steel. Save your heights.

Save whatever. El Toro number one. Legendary coaster. Shout out to El Toro. You sold me on it. When are we going? Go to El Toro. Where is he?

Team builder. Careful. If the neck is a problem, don't ride that. The wooden roller coasters just kick your ass. Yeah. All right, that was a fun pound for pound. I liked that. Give me some nostalgia, man.

God, I would love to go to a museum park as a group. So there actually used to be a coaster, yeah, shout out. I feel like these are tough to rank because everyone's own experiences different. There was a coaster. Tower of Terror across all three, though. You don't see that too often. Is it the first time we've had?

No, no, we've had. Of course not. There was a coaster in Six Flags Over Georgia called the Ninja that would just, there was like things right here that your head would just like bounce into. That's no fun. It was like you got concussed.

Yeah, that's no fun. But man, there also was a thing called Superman Ultimate Flight. You lay down, right? You would literally lay down and fly like that. It was sick. I feel like Six Flags must have a lot of similar rides because we had that Batman ride.

I rode that Superman thing. And we talk about the accidents. In 2008, a kid at Six Flags over Georgia climbed the fence to get his hat at Batman. Oh no. And a person came and the roller coaster kicked his head clean off. We have the same story in Houston. We have the same ride.

Did it happen in Houston? I mean, I think so. No, it happened in Atlanta. Like it was a big deal. It was like a 16 year old kid. It was crazy. From Texas, and this wouldn't be a boys in the back if there wasn't a little bit of trivia.

Do we know why it's called Six Flags? No, but it started in Texas, right? Right, because it's Six Flags over Texas. Yes. It's a reference to the six sovereign nations that have risen a flag over Texas. We have Spain, France, United States, the Republic of Texas, the Confederacy. I wonder if there's a power ranking. And then Mexico!

Nice. I wonder if there's a power ranking of the Six Flags parks, because I feel like I only know Great Adventure, you only know the Atlanta, Frank knows the Houston. Alright, so if I have to be honest, growing up, I actually thought the Six Flags over Georgia was the only Six Flags in the world, and I was like, Six Flags is so great, and then obviously Six Flags, New England,

Six Flags, there's a million different Six Flags. I was actually deep diving on Six Flags while I was doing research for this. There's a Six Flags Saudi Arabia, and they are building the tallest and fastest roller coaster in the world right now. Yeah. They also have like resorts.

Did you have the water parks? We had Six Flags Whitewater. Yeah, we had it. It was called Schlitterbahn. What was ours called? Six Flags Schlitterbahn? It was Schlitterbahn by Six Flags. Oh, okay.

They also have like, they have resorts that you can go stay at the hotels. The crazy thing about Schlitterbahn is they had a lazy river that connected all the slides together. Roaring Rapids was our day They always have the name just stayed in a tube And then if there was a ride you wanted to get on you just kind of fan yourself over to a conveyor belt

It's like this is very much like Wally they never quite held up for me if I'm gonna go to the park I'd rather go to like a separate water park another day Let me lock in on my six flags like they were separate parts for us yeah there was there was no there was yeah maybe they were for us too but I was I was more of a roller coaster strap me into El Toro and let's go yeah all right super chats it comes in red I love that looks good man looks great looks great good stuff Frankie Yeah, amazing stuff We start off with

Just cause same boys in the back Can we get an uncrowned didger store scorecard to use alongside the watch parties would be cool to score fights with y'all in real time Hashtag uncrowned app. So they want to submit a scorecard with us. They want like the on-screen graphics. Yeah, which we're efforting. We had them at the MMA fighting days, we can get them here. Yep, we're trying. And we'll deliver, I'm sure we will. We will deliver. Next up, Terrence Leverett says, y'all should do a greatest soundtrack, pound for pound list. That's not a bad idea at all. There's a lot of random ones that we can do great one of the best pairings is a good soundtrack to a movie damn, right?

That's a great parent is how I'm gonna be okay with another movie related. Oh god Yeah, even though we've only done like two all time. I thought today we were gonna do a top five Val Kilmer movies I was a little disappointed. Wow wouldn't be bad. No, what are you Val Kilmer? Legit one of the goats rest in peace real genius just so we know in case we never do the list Number one number one not heat Good not Top Gun not Top Gun not heat not heat all right not even uh The saint it's gotta be real geniuses all right. I don't think the saint was in the room Wow well offline about that one Rick G comes in with you think Gary would share a cigarette with Procches after? That would be great. That'd be a great

photo. That'd be great. Have Pizzi roll it up. Pizzi hand rolls his cigarettes. It's really a thing of magic. If I was a Procches opponent I would probably try to like do that photo op. Hell yeah. We got the remember how everybody everybody always loves to like when the opponents link up after and then we got they share a beer. Jamal Hill and and Paul Craig at the club we had a Curtis blades and Tom Aspin all sharing the beer if you get if you get them sharing a cigarette That's gonna be the nicotine share a bit of the nicotine after the fuck up on Ian This next one is a question that we've answered a lot

So it's just asking about a reaction to bend the Bain Davis on the challenge Frank Don't don't poo poo our questions are fans that are spending their hard-earned money to ask these questions, especially when it's related to something that I love dearly and would be happy to talk about no matter how many times it's been asked. I am extremely excited for Ben the Bane Davis to be on the challenge. I can't wait to talk to him about being on the challenge. I've DM'd and texted with him just a little bit just to say like, I can't believe you're doing this. What a crazy experience. I'm so happy for you. He's going to get a ton of exposure. He's going to be going up against people that I've been watching on TV for two decades now.

I'm very excited about it. I hope he does well. I hope you'll watch with us. I vow that there will be coverage of this now on this show because of Ben the Bane's inclusion. I'm getting to combine two of my passions. Shout out to Ben the Bane for inclusion. I'm getting to combine two of my passions. Shout out to Ben the Bane for allowing me to continue to talk about

it. Ask 10 times more and I will talk about it. Cool. 24 inch dubs says amusement and coasters made fight me burritos rule. Nah, this is a horrible take. Horrible take. Thanks to $2 2424 in Stubbs. Coby comes in with Rick, have you been keeping up with CinemaCon? Not really. I have to admit the last couple of weeks I've been kind of out of the loop.

Have you, Frank, has there been any huge development? I haven't been following it. Yeah, I'd have to catch up on it. I will. I listen to a lot of movie podcasts and certainly I get a lot of updates after the fact from things that have happened and with some of the movie podcasts reacting to it but I have to admit I haven't like had my finger on the pulse of it. Sorry. Benjamin Turk says look up Velocicoaster

video. Okay so I have heard that this is the best ride in the world. I've heard that this ride, and I believe it's at, uh, universal studios, Orlando. I believe it's at the park that, uh, that the PFL is having their fights at. I believe that this is considered like widely the best ride in the Orlando park area. I've heard that this is the best. So I really want to ride this. Unfortunately, when we took our kids, like this, they're more of the Disney age. We didn't go to Universal because I just think the rides are going to be a little too tough for them.

When I do find myself back down there, maybe when they're older or maybe like I'm able to take a trip away, this is on my list. The Veloza Coaster. This is on my list. Jurassic Park themed, I believe. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Veloza Raptor themed. Shout out to Jurassic Park, all-timer. I yeah, yeah, yeah velociraptor themed shout out to Jurassic Park all-timer I I really want to thank you for a Jurassic Park roller coaster I want to say at universal where like as you're going like the t-rex yes pops out and tries to catch you I don't think it was a roller coaster I think it was one of those like log rides where you just do like a Straight shot down into like the water it was either water or not water, but I think it was one of those log rides where you just do a straight shot down.

Into the water? It was either water or not water, but I think- Oh, I think you're right. I think it was a log flume. It was a log ride. But that did exist and I rode that 15, 20 years ago now. Velocicoaster, shout out. Shout out to Velocicoaster.

I wanna ride that badly. Moderator Brandon wants to know, Rick, what brand t-shirt do you wear? GC, the Brave, 0 seven, let's go. Zero seven. Most of the time, straight up pack of like seven pack Hanes, like comfort, cool, whatever the latest technology is, Hanes t-shirts, for the simple fact that I wear so many,

I literally just plow through them. I open a pack of seven, got seven, this one's worn out, this one's ratty, throw it in the garbage, new pack. So we keep it we keep it economical with how much we wear these black t-shirts. This one right here though is like one from Costco, I don't know, like their brand of like a little lighter weight. Oh yeah, it might be a little dry fit or something. Dry fit type. Do you have to buy like a pallet of them? No, but I did get, I don't know, 10 or however many. I love it. But yeah, I go cheap price over like quality of tea

cause I'm just, I just wear it every day. I'm just going through them so fast. As far as the Braves own seven, yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. I can't believe they're own seven. Good thing it's 162 game season and your Mets are only three and three. Oh, shh.

We got some beef. We sweep you one series and we're tied. Jordan's a Mets fan. I see you got some rings on there GC now. I see you some rings on your fingers from the last few years. I mean yeah. How many do they have?

2021, yeah. Thanks for the support here, Jordan. Yeah, Jordan's a Yankee fan. No, no, Mets fan. Yankee fan. Oh, sorry, I got confused by that. 2021. Yep. Yep, yep. Any and all least people that want to talk shit, Yankee fan. Oh, sorry, I got confused by that. 2021. Yep.

Yep, yep. Any NL East people that want to talk shit, we got 2021. What do you got, 08? Marlins? Ah, Nationals, 19. Nice, nice, nice. 0 and 7, we'll be all right.

162 game season. Padres and Dodgers, give us a break. That was a tough one last night. Yeah, we'll be all right. 162 game season. This is like the first half of the first game of an NFL season We'll be all right here, right? Like we'll be all right. Yeah, you're right Anything else chase wants to know what's up with all the baseball talk? No. No, I'm sorry miss Rick

No, nitro from great adventures Like nitro, but there's just so many coasters like Nitro now like there's ones at Dorney Park and there's one There's one at Cedar Point. That's like 25 years old. I think it's called Millennium Force there's so many versions of that coaster. It's a great foundational coaster. It's a solid coaster It's one of those coasters that like was the was the main attraction at the park 15 20 years ago. But it just doesn't hold up to the modern stuff. There's just so much innovation that's happened.

And quite frankly, you go to Six Flags, El Toro crushes it, just demolishes it. El Toro's so much better. Rimini Rogowski writes, the Velocicoaster at Universal's top tier coaster genuinely thought I was going to die. God damn it. All this has made me do is want to ride that coaster

so badly. Someone also about a day full of roller coasters and then you get off and like, once you get back home chilling, you kind of feel like you're moving a little bit, almost like you've been on a boat all day. It's a trip. I get that mid park.

Like after I've ridden like six different ones, I kind of start to do like a little bit of a sway and I'm just like Jesus Christ yeah land feel like I need to chill and then I just get back on yeah shout out Joshua Freeman sends his condolences the Kingda Ka was demolished in February self-contained implosion video was insane thank you guys for being you RIP to the Kingda Ka. Thanks for the $4.99 rest in peace the Kingda Ka never got to ride it somewhere in my house I have photos we I never buy the photos. Yeah, we bought the photos because it was open day Kingda Ka

We were like we did as tall as fast as um, you got somewhere in my house me and my boys shut up And to finish us off Otter pops. I love the avatar here for everyone What is the scariest ride you went on to impress a crush? I love the avatar here. For everyone, what is the scariest ride you went on to impress a crush? Also very late, shout out to New York Rick movie Fight List, the pound for pound. Oh, what a legend, shouting out an old list of mine.

Hey, shout out. He knows ball. Old school list shout out. Scariest ride I've been on to, Daredevil Dive at Georgia in Six Flags Over Georgia is you literally go straight up like an elevator and then when you drop, it's beyond 90 degrees.

Oh wow. Yeah, I wasn't like particularly looking forward to that one, but I did do it with a girl. With a girl because you're like. Does the crush be like, whoa, that was so heroic of you. No, I screamed like a bitch and she was just like, man, you really screamed a lot, huh? Oh no.

But it is. Let's not do this again. It could be the opposite though. Which is worse? Okay, that's a great follow-up question. I just complimented my own question there. It's not the first time, Rick. Great question, man.

It's definitely not the first time. This is about to be a great follow-up question. Which is worse though? Not going on the ride and she goes, you didn't go on the ride? Or you go on the ride and you scream like a bitch and then she's like- You go on the ride and she goes, oh, you didn't go on the ride or you go on the ride and you scream like a bitch and then she's like. Go on the ride and scream because she thinks it's funny.

That's worse or better? And you went on the ride, that's better. That's better, so worse is you just don't go. If you don't go on the ride and she goes on it. And she goes on. That is, you can't recover from that. No recovery. No, you can't recover.

You really wanna impress them, ride it and don't even like make an expression. Alex Breret just. No, that's boring. I like the... You've got a dream and stuff. See, Andy would love it. Andy would think it's hilarious.

You scream on the ride, the girl likes it. If you don't get animated and you're like, ah, it's not fun. It's boring. It's harder to act like you're not having a good time. Yeah, it's not about it. It's about being more fun, Frank. No, he's saying it's hard,

you're putting more energy in if you're not like having fun. If you're just like... When you hit that first hill, it's just natural to scream. Yeah, no, it's it's a lot of fun. That's that's half the fun is like you're just getting into it. You just turn your head slowly and dead-eyer. I have done a few of those just for the photo like I'm enjoying the whole ride, but then I know the camera's coming up and I'll just be like... Deadpanic.

Yeah. That's good. What do you think else, Frankie? That know the cameras coming up and I'll just be like deadpan it. Yeah. Yeah But I think that was the end of the barrel. All right I think that'll just about do it two and a half hours in the can on UFC apex 105 pfl championships this weekend you photos of Ariel on terror a tower of terror. I mean, this is a show right here That was great. What are we talking about in the chat? Indica's are easy, strawberry cough, wow. Lemon drops, TV trick. Hey girl, what do these words mean? Purple, urkel, what does this even mean?

I think the chat misunderstood what kind of ride we're talking about. Right, right, right. Got a day with Penn Rockets. We were talking about getting high on the roller coasters. Not the other one. Shout out to the chat. By the way, Fabrizio Verdu no longer in GFL.

What? What happened? I missed this. Not sure, but he's out. He's out, okay. He's protecting his neck. Yeah, protect your neck, brother. Alright, watch the crack tomorrow.

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