The Ariel Helwani Show - Dillon Danis in studio, Mike Perry & Jeremy Stephens faceoff, Lerone Murphy, Carlos Ulberg

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Ariel Helwani kicks off the show with Lerone Murphy, who talks about his highlight-reel knockout of Aaron Pico at UFC 319, practicing the spinning elbow, champion Alexander Volkanovski’s callout for December, his weight cut, and more (07:53).Dillon Danis is back in studio with Ariel to discuss a variety of topics, including his upcoming Misfits fight, why he’s not facing Tony Ferguson, believing he can submit Khamzat Chimaev, the ongoing lawsuit with Logan Paul’s wife Nina Agdal, and more (31:37).Dillon’s upcoming opponent, Warren Spencer, drops in to respond and things get heated (1:13:53), then Ariel and Dillon continue their banter (1:26:22).Carlos Ulberg joins next to preview the Dominick Reyes fight, look back at his win over Jan Blachowicz and express disappointment that it didn’t lead to a title shot, break down the Magomed Ankalaev vs. Alex Pereira rematch, and more (1:58:42).Finally, BKFC opponents Mike Perry and Jeremy Stephens go face-to-face, with tempers flaring and both making the case for victory in October (2:21:42).

Ladies and gentlemen, now, welcome to the Eri-A-R-I-D-Y show. Back in your life on this Tuesday, August 19, 2000. And 25. Hello, gosh, I hope you're doing well. It's great to be here on a Tuesday. You know we like to play two on Tuesdays later today. I don't know what's going on with this thing. Later today, we're going to be on the DeZone YouTube channel on the DeZone platform as well.

I will be flying solo. No Aday, he's on vacation, but we do have some great guests. Ben Davison, the head trainer for the one and only Moses Atama will be joining us. Talk about what's next for Moses, the 20-year-old sensation. Is he really going to fight Alexander Usik next? Could that be? we shall discuss. Dan Kenobio, one of my favorite boxing pundits.

He's going to join us as well. He hosts Inside Boxing Live with Chris Algeria. You talk about all the news and notes in the world of boxing. And Mick Conlon, one of the all-time great Irish boxers, returns to action on September 5th. He'll join us as well. So that's a loaded show.

But this is a loaded show. And before we get into today's program, I do want to let you know. I want to say this at the top of the show so that it's at the very top, as opposed to buried on the back end. This is my last show for two weeks. after this going fishing. I'm out. But we're not done. It's just no more Helwani until September 2nd. That's two

weeks from now. The Tuesday after Labor Day tomorrow, you'll have boys in the back. Thursday. You'll have the crack. And then the rest of the team will be off for the subsequent 12 days. I hope you won't miss me too much. I will certainly miss you not a ton scheduled for the next two weeks as far as events. Obviously, there could be some breaking news. There's the big showdown in Shanghai this weekend. That's going to be a good... I mean, the top two, three fights are solid. Johnny Walker against Jingyang-Mang, and obviously Al Jameen, Stirling against Brian Ortega.

I'm looking forward to that. August 30th, misfits, yada, yada. There'll be plenty of time to discuss on the back end. So, I wanted to get that out there. Also wanted to get out that I appreciate all of you very much, especially our live viewers, because I have to say, you came up big. Sometimes I doubt you.

But yesterday, you reconfirmed That deep down, it's a nice community here. When my kids were standing by my side, my wife as well, I was worried about looking at that chat. I really was. And I was like, hmm, this could be a mistake. And boy, did you guys come through. So thumbs up to the chat. W's in the chat.

Shout out to all of you. You're all gentlemen. You're all great people. You're all ladies and gentlemen. You're all salt of the earth. Mention, as we say. Honorable mention to all of you. Thanks for coming through.

I appreciate you guys. My kids had a great time. My family had a great time. They really loved being here and seeing it all go down. And Paolo Costa is now their favorite fighter. That's how it happens. That's how it happens. It was a great show.

Costa was phenomenal. Rick's still sporting the hairdo. He has not cleaned it up. We'll check in with him. He's doing some stuff in the back over there. Oh, is he here? Is he here? Rick?

Everyone's wondering. Hello. You look fantastic. You really can't tell with the light. No, you know what it is? It's the headphones. Yeah. Let's see.

Let's see it. I walked in and I was thrown off. Three six. Yeah. How do you feel about it? Oh boy I mean it looks like shit What the fuck

You look like you Don't disrespect me and my barber Paula Costa That's what it is He looks mangy Mangey Rigg I don't even know what Mangey means It's like when a stray animal

Gets Manges They start losing their fur I feel like They start like biting it off And it won't grow back And I feel like I'm just gonna keep it Like I saw a rat this Mangey rat this morning

On the subway I was like Rick! I was like oh no you're not Rick I'm sorry man That is definitely not PTC Carroll But they did have you listed as PTCaryary We miss P-T around these parts.

You look great. You look fantastic. Thank you. I agree. And I appreciate you sticking with it. You're going to get it cleaned up tomorrow. No, no, I'm going to stick with it. Okay, all right.

Road trip with the fan. What did the family say? You're not my dad. The kids didn't have a big reaction until today because the hair like started poofing up and then this became more clear. The wife laughed pretty hard at me. Okay. She knew what she was getting into when she got with me. She's also seen the past Apollo haircuts.

She knew what was going on now. this. Did she have like a preference between the first Palo haircut the second? I think she liked the first better. Yeah, it was just more.

I think she likes when I have hair better than when I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, uh, I did see in the aftermath him noting before he got here that he wasn't paid the last time.

I made sure to get a little tip. I understand. What a guy. What a guy that Paula Costa. If you missed it, check it on the YouTube page. Francis Nganyu was on as well. Great stuff from Tim Elliott,

Michael Venom Page, Brian Battle. today's program is another really fun one on paper looking forward to it a great way to go out so to speak just a little break a little break nothing crazy don't get crazy back into the show we'll have another fun virtual face-to-face with mike parry and jeremy stevens the two men who will be headlining bkFC's debut in newark new jersey on october fourth prudential center i told you yesterday that well this was did i say it on the show maybe on social media but i think I said it on the show. There was some concern that they'll be going head to head with the UFC event

on October 4th, UFC 320. They're not going to go ahead to head. They're going to end their show round 10. So if you're planning on watching both or maybe attending one and watching the other, that's good news. Also, I reported yesterday pending approval from the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board, they are planning on having Frankie Edgar fight on that card as first competitive a fight in about three years coming out of retirement. His BKFC debut against fellow former UFC fighter Jimmy Rivera. So this has been met with, I would say, some skepticism and criticism. Also, some people just supporting him. They know what they're doing. They're trying to sell tickets. He's a beloved son in the state of New Jersey. And so it's going to be interesting

to see how it plays out. His last few fights didn't really go great so I can understand why there's some concern. That is pending approval. Tickets on sale right now, BKFC.com. So we'll have the two of them on at the same time. Back into the show prior to that, we're going to be joined by Carlos Ulberg in September. He'll be headlining the UFC's return to Perth against Dominic Reyes, a very important fight in the UFC light heavyweight division. Looking forward to that, Chad, very much. The one and only, the often imitated, never duplicated, Dylan Danis will join us at about 1.30 to talk about his fight on the upcoming Misfits card, Misfits 22, August 30th, A.O. Arena, Manchester, England. He'll be joining us in studio to talk about that

fight against Warren Spencer, who'll be making his MMA debut. I believe this is for the Misfits light heavyweight title. So stay tuned for that. But first, let us talk to one of the big winners from this past Saturday's card in Chicago. We spoke to him just a few weeks ago when he accepted the fight on short notice, three weeks or so to be exact. Everyone was wondering what was going to happen with Aaron Pico. He gets the fight against. Mosar Evloev in July. That gets canceled. Evloev has to withdraw due to injury. And there's Lorone Murphy, who at the time had won eight in a row, kind of, you know, on the apex cards, doesn't seem like he's getting the push, doesn't seem like he's getting to shine. And there

he is, waltzing right into the windy city, scoring one of the most incredible knockouts you will ever see, and certainly a frontrunner for knockout of the year, a spinning back elbow knockout of one Aaron Pico. It's now nine in a row. And immediately afterwards, you got the champ, Alex Wokinovsky saying, see ya in December. Let's talk to the man himself, the miracle, the one and only Lorone Murphy, kind enough to join us.

Hello, Lorone. How are you, my friend? Can you hear me? Cannot hear me? Okay, we'll work on. Oh, Lorone, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you know. Okay, good to see.

You're a little bit frozen there, so maybe there's a connection issue, but let's see if it gets sorted. yeah you can hear me yeah can hear you okay congratulations lorone congrats on the win what has life been like since that incredible knockout on saturday oh it's been crazy um yeah i'll get a lot of love so i so i deserve um but it feels it feels good to get some love after a fight uh got a bit of stick after the josh him at fight um but man it's good to get a knockout get a finish on such a big show,

a big stage as well. Isn't that a wild thing? I was thinking about that when comparing you to say Hamzad, who's getting all kinds of stick for people saying his performance was boring. Not that long ago, people are saying your win was boring,

and now everyone going crazy over the knockout just shows kind of how it's so fickle and it's a what have you done for me lately kind of sport. You have to kind of laugh at that, right? Yeah, that's it, man. The fans have very, very short-term memory, and that's just the way the game's going at the minute. so yeah it's like performance base you can have you can have five bad fights have one good

fight and everybody's talking about here again and so here you you get this opportunity on short notice you kind of like nudge your way in there even though you should have been in this conversation was was the talk between you and the team saying like hey a win isn't enough here let's do something spectacular so we almost have to force their hand and we snatch this away from all the other guys who are jockeying for that title shot not really it was just go out there and get the wind but I feel like nights like that just create that kind of energy and obviously the plan that I knew R&P goal was going to pressure me and create the opening so um we put together some some techniques for that pressure and they come off did you feel a major difference as opposed

to fighting at the apex like just being co-main event pay-per-view a super hot crowd is it possible that they helped get you to that moment that their energy made you almost elevate your game? Yeah, 100%. And as high-level athletes, that's what we want to be doing. We want to be fighting in front of crowds. I knew from the Wayans, not even from the Waynes, from the press conference that the crowd was going to be hyped

and it's going to be energy. I knew it was going to be a good night just from the crowd. And when you get that energy from the fans, it makes you go out there and do something special. What was the vibe that you were getting on Fight Week? Did you feel like the UFC was really excited about, you know, their shiny new toy, Aaron Pico, and that they were trying to get him in a spot

to propel him to a title shot? Did you feel like you were the one that was being used to kind of have him be the stepping stone, you know, you be used as the stepping stone for him to get the title shot? Possibly, possibly, but who knows, who knows? I know I'm not that guy. I know canon fodder for any man on this planet.

So for me, it's all about, that's just perspective. A lot of people were saying that. but for me that was just that was my ticket to the title that's it did you like chicago i love chicago i want to go back on a holiday because i didn't really get to experience it how i wanted to but uh i love that city crazy city um people said it's like a small like a smaller cleaner new york but i've never been to new york you got to come here it's a it's a fantastic place as well dare i say a little bit better than chicago but i am i am biased

since we do live here. I saw a clip emerge online of you practicing that spinning back elbow in the locker room. One of your coaches and teammates, Luke Barnaut, sent it to me. And so this is, I love when this stuff emerges. What was it about his style and his striking attack that made you think that this would be available to you in the fight? Yeah, well, I was doing it a lot more than that, especially, yeah, I was doing it a lot more than that.

But I just thought where he shoots and puts his head and he often leads with his head like he jumps into range and I knew it would work and I actually knew it would work

I knew that technique would have wanted to finish him and that's why I started with a spinning back kick because I knew he would have watched my previous fights and knew that that's why I liked to throw

so I started with one of them and then when he walks in you can see as he breezes, he thinks that a back kicks coming and the elbow caught him. Incredible. What were you thinking about his aggressive style? It was funny because on the broadcast, like almost seconds before you land the finishing blow, they're complimenting his striking, his boxing, his aggression, and that leads

to his demise. And so I'm just curious, there's a lot going on, but what are you thinking as he's coming forward that aggressively early on? You know what? He felt very, very, very good. I'm not going to lie. He felt like the best I felt in there, to be honest. He was sharp.

He was fast. He was strong. He mixed out well. But you see, as the fight gets past one minute, I start to get his timing. I start to get his timing. I come close with a knee. I think the knee skimmed his chin very close. And then I timed the elbow.

And I was just timing these little things. And as I was hitting these things, I just knew my time is coming. My time is coming. He's going to walk on something. I did see your tweet towards D.C. asking him about the knockout and I was wondering if there was any more to that. What were you trying to say here with this tweet? Hey, D.C., that was the sick H.O. in it. What was that? No, it's just a bit of ban on. D.C.'s cool. We had a little interview a few, like the day before, maybe, or yeah, the day before, two days before. And that was just a bit of ban on because of the language. He was laughing that I'll say the word in it after sentence. Oh, okay, okay. Just in Manchester.

Okay, the way my mind went, I thought it was because, like, Pico's kind of his boy, so I thought you were just sort of like, you know. No, no, no, no. Not your style, not your style. No, no. I respect D.C., man. He's one of the OGs. Of course, of course.

So are we calling that the Spinneruni? Is that official? The Spinneruni, bro. The Bay Blay Spinneruny. That was sick. Yeah. I don't know what? I think I've watched it 10,000 times, you know?

I can't imagine. I can't imagine. That has to be, I mean, like, as far. as life's work, like to land something like that. What does it feel like in the moment? When you connect with the elbow and you see him go down, can you even describe what that feels like? I can't even imagine. It feels great. It feels great. I just watched a man's soul leave his body. It just felt amazing. And then in front of a crowd as well, like that in the apex would have felt great, but not like that. The crowd erupted. Oh, it's just mental.

So, like, I wish I could rewind it and just, like, slow it down because it all happens so quick. And I can imagine then running over to your team and celebrating with them, that has to feel tremendous, too. Yeah, that's part of it. They suffered with me. They're traveling the world with me, and we're all sharing the success together. So, yeah, it's just great, man. That's why I ran over to them first, and then it was just like, oh, it was good, man. I loved it.

By the way, speaking of suffering, you did tweet also about the way. weight cut and sort of forgetting how how crappy it was was this a tough one because of how you know short notice this fight was for you only enough it wasn't it was the it was the best weight cut i've ever had uh because i'm working with a nutritionist with a ufc now glen uh castro and he brought my weight down safely and easily um i didn't feel hungry at all all it was was when we first got there on the Tuesday all my team's getting food

and I'm watching them eat food and I'm starving and I was just like I forgot how bad this was you know depressed depressing but over then that it was a good cut is an easy cut I felt great by the way shout out to you

getting to throw out the ceremonial first pitch at the White Sox game not a big sport in the UK baseball had you ever done something like this before did you get a chance to practice Not a bad throw, I would say. We've seen worse. We've seen worse, Lorone.

No, do you know what? My warm-up throws are perfect. And then I thought, okay, I've got this. This is easy. And then I walked upon the, I don't know, a mound. A mount. Yeah, yeah.

A warts upon the mound. And because it felt higher, it was weird. It's like I was throwing downwards. And then it just, everything just went wrong. Okay, yeah. It's tough. A lot of people would go at the bottom of the mound so that it feels more level. I respect you for trying the mound,

because it's more of like a this motion, right? That's it, that's it, yeah. Yeah, I can understand. By the way, I like you on social media because sometimes you have to sort of like decipher what you're saying. The picture of the old man who's 83 and saying like you don't want to have any regrets, was that you basically said, this one right here, was that you basically saying like, we got to go for it?

This is what life's all about, short notice. Let's go, let's go shock the world. That's it. Exactly that. And I like to speak in cold like that because you know what the internet's like. Yes. figure it out for yourself but um yeah that's what i mean like just go for it and and yeah if it comes off it comes off and this was this was a big ask fighting pico on three weeks notice was a big big

ask and to be honest um even the the three weeks that i trained or the two weeks that i trained wasn't how i wanted it to be so i did have i did have my little doubts going into a fight i'm not I'm going to lie. The training wasn't what I needed at the time. And luckily, it all come off anyway, but yeah. What do you mean by that? Like, were you banged up or you just didn't feel right? What does that mean?

Yeah. Yeah, you just, yeah. Now, I'm not banged up. I feel I felt great. It's just that I just didn't have the right things in place. I don't think. But all that doesn't really mean nothing, because I went out there and knocked him out in the first round

but I think preparation gives you confidence as a fighter and when you're fully prepared, you have no doubts in it and you go in there fully confident and I felt this time with only having a few weeks to prepare and then the actual training that I was doing at the time wasn't what would make me feel good I did go in there with a bit of doubt

but maybe that brought the best out me, I don't know. Yeah, maybe there's a lesson there. Maybe when you're too prepared, you're a little bit too comfortable and maybe when you're doubting yourself a little bit, you elevate your game. Look what happens. Yeah, but I did get smashed for the first minute. Fair, fair. I was just trying to put a positive spin on it. Did he seriously hurt you? No, it didn't hurt me. He didn't hurt me at all. It didn't hurt me at all, but he felt very, very sharp, like fast and strong. I think he's going to do well.

think he's going to do well in the UFC. I think he's going to learn from this. He obviously went against the best featherweight in the world. So it's like, it's not, it's no bad, it's no bad thing on him. But I think he's going to learn from that. You can't just pressure, pressure, pressure like that. And I think that's, I think he's going to, it's going to cause people problems, major problems. I like that. Best Featherway in the world. I caught that. That's the third time he's been badly knocked out. And, you know, that could affect the fighter, right? And in this talk of fighters coming over from Beltor and whatnot, despite all, of that you think the ceiling is high for iron pico yeah for sure man for sure he's very good man he's

very very good and i think um his aggression just he just yeah he's just too stubborn coming forward like he's like i'm not taking a step back and i can tell in his mind he was thinking i'm not giving this guy no space but i'm a sniper you can't he can't he can't he can't he can't he can't give me so many opportunities like that, especially when they landed, nearly landed in the knee. You should have understood then that I'm getting close. Do you get me? Yeah.

The current featherweight champion, Alex Fokinovsky, is a little different than most champions in that he doesn't seem to mind calling people out. Other champions will be like, you know, come to me. He did it with Mofsar, it didn't work out. He did it with you almost within seconds. Were you surprised when you heard about the tweet and saw the tweet that he specifically said, congrats, I'll see you in December?

Nah, everybody knows. Vox's a realist, man. He wants what's best for everybody else. He wants the next best challenge. He believes it's the best ever. And he wants the next best challenge and the next best challenge. It's clear to see. So, yeah, it's good that the champions doing that.

And more champions should do that instead of ducking and diving. So hopefully, me and Volk Gait on in December. And it'll be a great fight. So this fight happened about three days ago. Where do we sit now? How confident are you that you are, in fact, getting the title shot in December? you're never know in this game

you're never knowing this game and for me I believe from looking at the division I deserve it most by a mile not even

it doesn't matter what happens between Gene Silver and who's your fight Hugo Lopez yeah

to me that shouldn't fight the matter I think Gene Silver needs two fights to get a title

shot but I believe that the UFC might be waiting for that fight to see what happens with them but I deserve it more than him I think we just showed the new rankings

you're now number four and it's interesting you have the exact same amount of wins now in the UFC as Mosar who we presumed was next but since his win over Diego Lopez in May of 2023 you have fought six times you have been way more active as him so to me I don't think there's an argument I think you have to be next you've done it you've punched your ticket

it's not an argument you've got to think about it like this year there's a few reasons why I believe I'm ahead of him as well he's not for any main events I've fought to like you said he's not got no finishes I've just got another finish

I've got three finishes in 10 fights or whatever so what and I've been more active so and I just thought his fight he'd have pulled out of the number one contend of the fight so the UFC says

and I stepped in and won the fight. So I'm more than deserving for the title now. Dana White was asked about the Vogue tweet. He says he loves the idea. He also referred to your win as a coming out party. Do you see it as the same way? It's kind of funny to have a coming out party when you're 9-0-1 in the UFC.

Do you view it the same way? You know what it is? I sit and think all the time and I believe my career took off when a first debut. And I got finishing over Ricardo Ramos, looked great against silver. And then obviously I got knocked out Mac1. So that's like two finishes in four fights.

And then I got injured and I was out for a year. So I just started again. So maybe he's right about that. I had to start fresh again. I was out of the whole of 2022. And I had to build back up. But we're back here now. So yeah, it was a coming out party.

You mentioned in your Post-Fy press conference that year off. You thought maybe your career, something to the effect level, like, I thought my career was going to be cut short or taken away from me. Was it because of how serious the injury was? Yeah, yeah, it was close. Wow. The doctor said he didn't think I'd fight again. I shouldn't fight again, he said. Wow. And obviously, remember, I got injured before that, before that accident, I got injured, and there's a pretty significant injury. I ended up getting stem cells and all that stuff.

and then I got knocked off my bike so it's like something just didn't want me to fight but yeah anyway I built back up from that and we're back even stronger obviously we've talked about everything you've been through in your life

it's out of a movie do you feel like the stars are starting to finally align for you that there's actually good vibes coming your way as opposed to these freak accidents yeah yeah you never know what life has in store for you but I just think

you just got to roll with the punches man and just never give up keep chasing the goals and that's what I've done. Like many people won't even have made that fight on Saturday night. I only got my visa on the Monday morning, 7 a.m., traveling back and forth from London on the train, three-hour journeys, and then just to get my visa on Monday morning, and we flew out. So I had to jump through a lot of hoops to even make it to Chicago.

Wow, the Monday of Fight Week. Yeah. Were you nervous about that? Yeah. Of course. of course I didn't know what was happening and even like training not knowing if you're 100% fighting or not

it was a bit wild wow wow yeah that is a lot of stress and so now you wait in here you would be okay with December right no serious injuries I'm ready to go now I'd fight I'd fight Volcanozky this month or October whenever I don't care

but December for me is perfect timing because I believe I've got I've got a lot to work on I've got a lot to sharpen and I believe by December, wow, it's not going to be to get near me. Could I ask,

how do you think that plays out? Like, what do you, what do you envision when you think of fighting against Alex Wokinovsky? Volcanowski is one of the best to ever do it, but I think I'm going to get the finish.

You know, I think that's just sparked something in me where I just feel like I want a kill. I want to kill again. Wow. You feel a finish over Vokanovsky. Very rare.

Only, you know, Ilya Tuporia and Islam have done that to him. I'm cut from that cloth. I love it I love it And by the way You know what I love the most

As I believe Joe Rogan mentioned In that moment You shout out your teammate Jordan Barton Tell us about this This young man And why he should be in the UFC

Of course And you know what I just I just think this game This game is all about opportunity And there's plenty of guys out there Especially him That I've worked so hard

And as good He's as good as me And that is no joke He's as good as me he's just not got his opportunity he's the FNC champion which is a European promotion it knocks people out

he's exciting he's been my aspiring partner for all my last five six fights and he's emulated every person perfectly and done it's better than them and give me harder rounds than them

wow so he can be in the UFC and he can go straight in the top 15 and I believe it just needs a shot he just needs a shot man any guy that falls out or whatever, I would better get into my gates most guys in the UFC, honestly. Wow. And as we've talked about, your team is on fire. So I totally believe everything that

you're saying. Shout out to everyone at Manchester top team, Carl Prince, your coach. We spoke about Atiba doing great things. And a lot of times guys have fights and we see them back at the gym on Monday. Back to work. For you, it's back to paddle. You're right back to your day job of playing paddle. On the Monday? I trained today. I trained today. I trained today, actually. I'm fresh I've never come out of a fight so fresh Incredible So I feel fresh

I love it man But do you know what I text my boxing coach Obviously Prince is in Vegas with Louis Lee He's fighting on contenders tomorrow But I text my boxing coach yesterday I'm saying when can we get back in the gym

I need to work I think Pico Spark something in me where I know I need to improve a little Just a few little bits And I know I'm going to take it To that next level now I know for a fuck down.

Well, I love it. And that makes us want to see this title fight even more. Congratulations to you, Lerone. Incredible job. You took the opportunity. You took, like the bull by its horns, as they say, and back to back. And by the way, last thing, did you really look at Carlos Pratchez and say, let me try to top that, or is that just BS? No.

Do you know what? Do you know what it did do? I was doing that anyway. I was doing a spin anyway. I knew I was bringing that anyway. But when I've seen him do that, I thought, do know what? on them cards when you see like three jumping knees, like people hit jumping knees. Yeah, yeah.

People do something. I thought this is going to happen again. This is going to happen again. I said, I'm going to do that again. And you did. Number nine and number 10. Never before. Back to back.

Unbelievable. Mine was better though. Mine was better. Mine was better. You think so? Did you see the impact? Yeah, yeah. When he landed his, his was great.

I thought it was a spinning back fist because of how it, maybe the camera angle, I don't know, yours was clear as day and it sounded like a freaking golf ball being hit or a baseball being hit it was unbelievable yeah my mine was like he was he was gone like mine was his was sick but mine was nasty mine was violent scary though also right with him on the ground like that in the aftermath yeah of course of course and i wish him the best i hope he's okay hope he's not too badly concussed and but this is fighting he he would he would have loved to do the same thing to me so yeah i heard i was speaking to DC. He wants to do some horrible things to me. So if the game's the game. Yes, sir. Well, you're a gent. Thank you, Lorone. Congratulations. Hopefully you get that title

shot. We appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. There he is. Lorone Murphy. What a run he's been on. And in my opinion, it's a no-brainer at this point. And yes, there is a big fight going down on September 13th involving John Silva and Diego Lopez. But let's be honest. It's going to take something spectacular to top that guy. The run that he's on right now is tremendous. He's won nine in a row, 9-0-1 in the UFC, longest active win streak at featherweight 9, joint for third, long as active overall win streak in the UFC with Teporea and Evloev in that featherweight division. Fourth longest winning streak in UFC featherweight history. Arnold Allen 10, Volcanovsky 11, Holloway 13. Eight career wins via K.O., three KEO wins in the

UFC, LaRone the Miracle Murphy. What a guy, what a guy looking forward to that fight. And shout out to Volcanovsky also for just like, for calling him out. You know, not a lot of champions will do that. And yeah, that's what makes folk a little bit different. All right. In a matter of seconds, we're going to be joined by our next guest. It's always a fun time when he comes around. Let me take this off here. Still to come, Jeremy Stevens. And Mike Perry will do a virtual face-to-face. Yeah, let me put this up. And then prior to that,

Carlos Ulberg is going to join us as well. So looking forward to that, we'll get to some of your super chats. But our next guest, we are told, we presume, returns to action on August 30th, misfits 22, AO Arena,

MMA, Misfits getting into the MMA game, we thought, he was going to fight KSI earlier in the year we thought he was going to fight Tony Ferguson but we think this one is going to happen he's going up against a young man named Warren Spencer he is the bad boy himself

the one and only Dylan Dennis is he here ooh a bit of a delayed response yeah is it live we're always live oh nice

nice nice nice mug yeah you didn't have any more energy come on No handshake. No handshake? We have a bone to pick. We have a bone to pick? First of all, shout out to the legend, Arturo Gaddy, from Montreal.

My guy. Jersey City. No, no, originally. Yeah, but Jersey City. Did you ever see him fight? Not like a lot. I mean, obviously, yes. I was young, yeah.

But, of course, I used to go to see him in Montreal. Really? That's how old I am. Oh, that's crazy. What do we got here? Shadow Hill. Okay. What's the bone?

What's wrong with you? It's good to see you. No, I was going to wear it, but no, no, you look good. I want to see you. I don't know. Okay, okay, okay. What's wrong? I thought we're in a good spot. You know what you did. What did I do? A rat move. Off the bat. We're coming with, animosity. My enemies are your enemies. What would you do?

My enemies are your enemies. Golly. Oh, impulsive. By the way, I shouted you out on that. I didn't watch it. Okay. Did they let it go? To be honest, I didn't watch it either. I have a hard time watching myself, but I did shout you out. You know why? they probably cut it right i mean i don't know i honestly he won't put i don't know i said i said i said um it hurt you it hurt you yeah because you know my enemies you're you're oh stop it you know friends right by the way by the way we're we're now beefing who he and i why because he made up all this shit about me this is kind of the same oh the day no but he the dana white stuff but he completely lied but then he went a step further with the d but you're letting him like kind of no i responded no way and then i responded what do you mean in person

First of all, did you watch it or not? He noticed it fucked up. You didn't go out of him like you got me. What are you talking about? He didn't start digging low on him. First of all, I was the guest on his show. He was married. I didn't say because it was going to say something.

I caught myself. I caught myself. By the way, first of all, this is before the wedding. Yeah, but still, I know you were there. At the wedding? Yeah, I know. I saw pictures. I wish.

I saw you there. Yeah, I was. We were officiating it. There it is. I forgot with the name of it. You're still going with the tweets. That was real. I know, I know.

Yeah, that was real. It was a good Photoshop. Is a lie detector a road? Do we have a lie detector this time? Yeah, I have one for both of us. We're not, we're not with that. Oh, there it is. Yes, it's back.

That's the cut in the punches. Who the fuck, dude? Come on, no, la, la, la, la. I'm so lazy today. I didn't want to come and then you guys are offering me money. You sent me a car. I know, okay, put it up one. No, no, no, no, no, no.

I will pose the DMs. Why do you have to come with this energy? We do, because we did offer you a car, by the way. We always do that. everything you offer a little bit outside you know you know what the jew tax that's that's always at the very top nice antisemitic comment let's put us what jew tax the jew tax what does that mean that just means you guys tax a lot you're not jewish so yes about said you guys tax a lot that's it yeah oh my gosh um how are you dylan how are you i'm good i was trying to come like with like a

i was just upset yeah that would be like who's your enemy if i want not if dana's doesn't count but who do you hate a lot i don't hate anyone i love everyone yeah that's not good that means that you're just like but by the way you you you you You talk to all media members. I don't like all the media members. Yeah, but going to Logan and just like, you know, what he did. And he didn't say anything about it and calm out on his bullshit. We're not tight like that.

And be like, oh, Dylan, kill you and M. Why did you take the M.M.A. Why did you take the M. You know, you could have said stuff like that. No, I actually brought you up. Did they cut? They have to have cut it because I haven't seen any clips. I mean, it was quick. I know, I said Dylan pulls in the numbers. Yeah. I did say that.

What he said in person because they cut it? Honestly. I don't know if they cut it. You keep saying that. They have to it because I would have seen it. not necessarily I mean usually

why would they clips come up all over I saw a lot of you arguing him about him calling you out for saying some shit but the DM stuff yeah which is true because I knew about that

before that was gonna happen yeah well Connor himself yeah but everybody knew about that like he's actually he was just trying to search also then I went because in the moment when someone is so

sort of definitive about something like that you start to doubt yourself you're like wait a second and then I went to do this every day and then I went to the DM and it was the complete opposite

of what he was saying yeah he's a little Where's that stand, by the way? Motherfucker. Because I saw you tweet it just a couple weeks ago. Yeah, I did another deposition, which is fucking brutal, dude. What does that mean? This one was, like, four hours depositions when they have you in the room and, like,

the lawyer can ask you anything, basically, and you have to sit there and answer. They're a lawyer. Yeah, they're a lawyer. And then my lawyer is there, obviously, but you just sit there, like, it's like this. I have a microphone, camera on me, and they ask me, like, thousands of questions. I've done it, like, five times now. Why so many times? I don't know.

It fucking never ends, dude. It's just, like, I don't know how much I could, like, you know. speak about it but like i feel like they just can't find anything and they are looking for something that they like is not there like i never hacked the phone i never did all this shit and like this is all public knowledge this is all her is that the main thing that they're accusing you of well i think that would be the the main thing that would win like i just had to be careful my word obviously but it is a trial that is it's going to go to try yes yeah they want to we try to settle in all this shit just get over they want to go to trial i think it's because they have

the show now i don't know have you watched the show no no I did see I saw part of where they talked about the thing yeah I see clips of stuff yeah yeah I don't watch your show I see clip no I know I know I know because sometimes you be gaping come on favorite show you still love it this is actually I was thinking about this before I came here are you the biggest guy in MMA like journalist wise and I was like he has to be I mean he had to be I was thinking who could be like no but not I'm not I'm trying to like this might be the nicest thing you've ever said to me no but I was like actually thinking about because I was like I was like I'm going to roast him with someone but I was

like there really is anybody like in all reality. Maybe that's why I've won 15 times in a row. I know, but I was like, who's like coming second? I was thinking about like MMA pages, but that doesn't count compared to like a journalist. So I was like, man, there's no... We have a whole empire here now. Yeah. We have our own site oncrowned.com. Yeah, I saw that. I don't like, though. I like when you had more of the, you know, like the MMA fans back and... What are you talking about? I don't want to say the name of your old companies, you know what I mean? That's fine. Vox Media, the MMA hour. Yeah, because it was nicer when they had already the numbers. Now you're building up again.

The numbers are pretty good. I mean, that's all you keep getting. You had my bat the other day, though, against Till, so I'll take you. Oh, maybe that was the one. Actually, maybe I didn't mention you to Logan, and that was the one. Yes. So, fuck, I'm sorry. So maybe you are a fucking liar, dude. Maybe that was, I did say, I did say.

Lie counter. I said, I didn't mention you to Logan. But with Till, yes, I said Logan, I don't know, I respect to that. And he took it in, too. He was like, yeah, if everybody he does. He's been mentioning me a lot. He's actually a really nice guy. You guys are friends now?

Oh, no. I mean, I think he's the kind of guy that just kind of gets it. You know what I mean? He's cool. Why weren't you at the presser? Dude, I don't want to travel the UK for one day. I had to spend money on fucking security and do all this. Why security?

Because all these idiots try to jump me in to get famous, bro. They're all like... KSI guys? No. Like, then idiots. Like, it's either them where the guys are on a undercar. Because there's no one else is bringing any part. It's just like, it's just so annoying.

And then you're in like, I don't know. I was like traveling for herself from there for nine hours. You go there. Like, for the KSI thing, I was early in, did the thing to a shitty hotel out like in the morning. And it's like, just so exhausted. What are you doing? Yeah. you don't know right um but uh but sometimes it's part of your contract yeah but i told

i'm not i'm not doing especially for this fucking fight that we're doing i'm like what it why why dude if you would know the names that turn this fight down that i could show you like that we have weeks weeks those the names um who do we start with i could have to go through my message i could do it if you really want me to i swear i mean you always do you could ask no but i'm who mams you guys man here's the thing you were supposed to fight tony gfl oh yeah well that one obviously no i know so but you're on the same card as tony why don't just do tony Do we talk about this? No, no.

Oh, who did I talk to you before? Oh, I did that thing with Wade. Yes, yes, yes, of course, Wade, the man. Unless he sported me. I saw that. It was amazing. Although you guys... That would be the most...

Bro, I'm not trying to... I'm not trying to... I don't care. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. One percent. You're a black belt. I'm a nothing. You're a box, though.

Yeah, I see. You sent me pictures, box all the time. Bro, I don't send you anything. Yeah, you do. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Don't tell me about the other pictures. You'd be sending me.

Yeah, okay, stop on. Put another one. Put another one up there. I know you're in circumcised, so. No, what? Actually, that's insulting to my heritage. That's what I'm saying, you are. Also, kind of weird that you're looking at my shlong.

You send it to me. I open to, I don't know what it is. I think it's a fucking working out picture, and I see that one. I'm trying to go somewhere here with this conversation. Whatever they guys call it. Okay. Why aren't you fighting Tony Ferguson on this card? So I'll explain this.

Okay. What are you taking out of your pocket? Nicotine. She's now? No. You're going to smoke in the studio like Carlos Prachas? No. No, I wish.

No, I can't. I won't smoke cigarettes. Yeah. What, a little pouch? Yeah, you put in, you, you asked me this last time. This is not, yeah, I know, but you never actually did it. You never actually did it. You think you're cooking with these right now.

That's the funny part. How old are you with you? You're talking about my penis right now. Yes. This is weird. Oh, no. This is a, now I'm going to be pumped up. How does it feel on the veneers?

There's no veneers, son. Bro, come on. You showed up one day with pearly whites. All real, son. That's what happens when, you know. Yes. Making a lot money. You haven't fought since October of 2023.

Yeah, but I saw me tons of money. I'm like Mr. B's at M.M.A. I give money to everybody. Oh, my God. Should we go over this? I have something for you today. What? Money?

Whatever you know. Oh, I'll give you money if you need it. Yeah, yeah. We're struggling. You're probably struggling. Yeah, yeah. But I did hear you're from someone, I could say his name, doesn't matter. But top three person that hasn't fought in MMA richest.

Like, someone that has a fought. You're like in the list of top three or four. What does that even mean? Like that you. You have, like, someone that's in the game that never had a fight. But I don't want to fight. No, no, no, no. I'm saying that is the richest.

I mean. You know what I'm saying? Like, Dana White, yeah. So you're on the top four. There's no chance. I have a very good source. I can tell you who it is. Go ahead.

No, but, okay, but how do you even know? Because he knows everything. Okay, look, let's just play the game right now. Yeah, you want to, you want a Celsius? And by the way, I bring all these fucking numbers and do all this stuff for you. Like, I see this where, and I'm not on the wall anywhere. Bro, what? You haven't fought.

It doesn't matter. I still, I mean, I mean, okay. Yeah. Come on, J. Paul, fucking owns that bullshit. No, no, no, they, uh, sponsor us. Yeah, but Jay Paul owns it. He doesn't own it. He definitely has a percentage.

No, they sponsor them. It's terrible to you. You need real sugar. You asked, stop. Because it's an acid fan, or whatever that shit is. You asked for it. You have water right there. Cutting away, so it's not bad, so.

Oh, well, we're wrong. Dana White. No, no, no. Okay, yeah, because we were talking about the Tony. Dana White. Coker, you. Coker. No, so you have to be a non-fed.

Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan's probably... Okay, but Joe Rogan has... That's different because he has a Spotify, 100 million. No, I know, but he's still an M. Okay, so you're five. Okay, so maybe. Maybe, yes.

I'd love that. Okay. Is this supposed to be an insult? No. I'm... Okay, okay. Okay, so you put a certain amount of money up. I'll match it, and we give it to someone that comments on the video.

And I'll send you the money, so then you put the person who wins. So then you can throw down online. What are we doing? Me versus you? No, together. No, but what is the... A collaborative. But what are we doing?

Money. Because you say, don't give away money so but what is the premise of the video that we're doing there was no present is it's just right now like me and you you name a number I'll match it we put together and we'll give the one person in the comments for what well look for what reason because I like the way and you try I say I don't you don't do that so that's what I'm saying right now I'm gonna give you the money I'll give you the money I put my money for good causes like auction auction I'm not just giving I'm

just giving away money to people why I give it to Ben Asgren we did that being very greedy right I'm not being fucking very great bro I give them free content that's my gift to them. What do you give them? I just money. Okay, let's go through the tweets. And there's a lot of things I give them. Do I want to get into it? Yeah, keep going. Okay, I'm just trying to say. Look at you. Did you pay the guy? Did you pay the guy? Yes. Hey, Grock, in 48 hours, pick one person who likes this post to win a thousand.

They must be following. This one, this one. Show to us. Is there a freaking community note? I don't know. Go. But you know, you know, you do know. What does that even mean? Go, show us. Show us the receipt. You always say, I'll show us the receipt. Go right now. I just won't put my phone because you got cameras on the day. Right now. Right now. Right now. Right now. You don't you always say I'm going to pay and then delete no we mean I pay everybody Who do you pay everybody and I'm giving you the opportunity right now to match me and it's not about me because I don't play that game

Okay, so I don't tell me you don't play that game I'm trying to that's not engagement farm. Yes it is how If you that's helping people following Dylan Dennis come on bro. That's so I can DM them so crazy Mr. Beast does the same thing you can you don't you don't no you don't no you don't you do no you don't why you DMing oh yes yes yes yeah Oh, you never bring that one up too. I DM fighters all the time, do I don't follow. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, you love this stuff. I know.

Can we go back to the money? Okay, but I'm just saying you're top five. You can't even match $1,000 to give it to your fans? No. Wow. Why? Because you're trying to deflect. You're trying to deflect.

No, because I don't play the game of giving people money. You're being greedy. Greedy to who? To your fans. Why do I have to give them money? It's a nice gesture. Some people need help. Some people are really good.

I give a lot of charity to people. Who? How are you? Who? In a million years, Who? Bro, I get so mad about it. I'm just saying,

I was trying to do a nice thing with you and say, would give some people's money. I feel like I'm talking to a mentally retarded person right now. You do a thing on Twitter. You do a thing, no, I'm not. There's no mirror here.

You do a thing on Twitter where you say, if you are following Dillon Danas, and this guy wins, I will pay. You have yet to show receipt. I have, and that's why the community. Here's another one. Here's another one. There's not there.

No. Must be following Dillandas. Why? Why? Because you're trying to up your numbers because that's all you care about. Okay. Is that not true?

No. You care about numbers. Why would the numbers do that for you? What? Okay. I said, well, why would I try to give money away with you if it wasn't for numbers? Because you're trying to spin this and make me look like the bad guy when I don't even play this game. I'm seeing me put together.

I just want to know why you do this. Why do you do this? It doesn't matter. I'm just like it back. I'm the Messiah at M. I fucking changed the sport. You didn't set wrong. Honor is number one of changing the sport in martial arts.

I'm number two. So that's it. Tell me why. I changed jiu-jitsu. jujitsu wasn't what it was until i came stop i changed mima how you haven't fought you haven't fought you i'm so relevant for fucking 20 what was it 12 years i've been in this game i've been on the show how many times because i bring every single i know this was weirdly enough the easiest time to get you on the show for

some reason why because of the zone i wasn't doing any oh okay like usually it's like a hey this i didn't know it was that but i didn't do with you i know usually yeah why was it so easy i didn't want it this morning i tried gab it you haven't fought since October of 2023 you haven't fought an MMA since 2019 why did you ask to fight a guy that no one's heard of i didn't that's fucking no one wants to fucking fight me he said that yeah he said this oh this is the poster he said it to michael bisman you saw that yeah bisman fucking my i messing fucking went and turned his back on me but um when when did he was his back not turned on you i saw the video from we we had a little i when i you didn't check in i had to give him a good

stiff one right in the other side but how do you even come up with this guy didn't it didn't so how did it no I didn't so what happened was at home we had to go back and say where you because you were yapping for like 10 minutes oh geez um what's it called uh you're talking about tony fergus and why we're not fighting yeah yeah okay 14 minutes ago because you focus sorry yapping about

money i don't get the charities what charity engage me for me yeah you want me to talk about the uh the jewish charities that i give to yeah they already got money yeah okay shut the fuck you're an idiot you're an idiot come on Okay, go. Go, tell us. Tony Ferguson. I could roast you so about right now.

I think I'm going to be in there. Go ahead, go ahead. No, no, I like, I'm... Tony Ferguson, tell us, for God's sake. For fucks six, he's fucking... Why? Because he's so nice. I'm not going to call him into...

He's on the card. He has... He's fighting... He's fighting... But he's on the card. He's a sweetheart. And you were going to fight him in May. Yes.

Yes. So, the reason he's even on this card is because I told Mams, get him to fight me in MMA, it was going to be a main event. Yeah. And what Tony said was GFL offered him in the upper

millions. I'm going to I think it's close to upper over five million to fight me in MMA and that he doesn't want to fuck up that bag by fighting me and misfits in MMA. So he thinks that GFL is still going to happen and he goes, I don't want to fuck with my pay. That's a, I mean

I can, you might have the same thing there. Well, you're brain damage. Bro, I'm not the one who signed up with GFL. You did. I didn't, well, what's it called? I thought it was going to happen. It was like taking a little shot in the water, you know what I mean? What happened? Fuck, I'm at. You were the ones.

You were the one saying afterwards, too. There's still a chance. They're trying to figure it out. So, I mean, the guy's a great guy. You know what I mean? Hook line and sink here. I mean, well, I'm still fighting. I don't really give a shit.

If it was going to happen, it was going to fight Tony. I was going to fight Tony. Whatever. The first warning sign should have been, promotion wants to put you in the main event. Like, they have to be crazy, right? Come on. That's why you're begging me to be on you.

But I didn't. I just told you that it was easy. Okay, stop. Come on. You can't go bored for me. I'm not Logan, right? Logan is just because your mom was McGee. because you're on his show and you're like all the numbers and you know it's gonna help my channel

and i get it you know your kids are probably fans of logan and you're really all excited kids do like him yeah i know impulsive yeah lunch doesn't do any good numbers though he's got like a pretty big empire does that drive you nuts prime you know i am who i am and i want to be him you know how do you make money a lot of things how do you make money i mean i do this i come here Monday through Wednesday who's paying watches like what do you make money from when you come here they pay you to do this Yes. Isn't that crazy? You don't bring that money because you got forward before that. What does that mean?

You had to cut you. Yeah, they did? Who? Who? ESPN. Yeah, cut me? Yeah, you love this. You play the same hits.

You're playing the same game of me, motherfucker. What game? Bro, your job is to be a fighter. Your job is to be a fighter. Yes, you haven't fought in two years. Okay, but do you get paid? I'm not blaming you. By the way, I'm not blaming you for that.

I just want to know if I didn't do my, if I didn't do a show for two years, I think it's a very valid thing. to be like how are you staying afloat how are you your personal business i don't know you guys in my you're in the prize i'm not asking you how much you're getting paid i'm just saying yes i made money is it not frustrating is it not frustrating to not get paid to do you're all about money i'm just say you don't fight yeah you fight for free you're gonna say i don't fight you're gonna say i don't but i didn't have the ks i and tony furges in lined up the other yeah you can't you

so again i just said i said you're gonna blame that on me though i literally just said i'm not blaming you for this, but it is frustrating when things get pulled from you and you don't get paid. Obviously, I was really pissed off because you get paid for people, offering a lot of money, which is another sign that was like, who the hell they, I'm no offense, someone's paying to watch showgunner, these fucking walkers. Yeah, there were a lot of warning signs. There's, I mean, what happened with KSI? He faked it. You think so? He faked it. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, he faked it. I was in the MRI room and I got the call and then, and then he was out partying and all the shit. What MRI room? Like that, because I was getting all the medical stuff.

I was really flying out the next day. I was done with that. I was done with everything and then I got the call deflating yeah it was so devastating i mean it was like it was like a mixed feeling because like obviously i didn't want to box you know that i didn't want to i wanted the m-ma so i was like but it was obviously i was ready to go i did boxing camp i was like yeah i'm gonna fucking go out there and i'm gonna prove what i didn't prove the first time and then it's a weird thing when you're just sitting there and you're ready you're ready to fucking go and you're in the doctor's office you're doing all this shit and you're ready to fly out tomorrow and they're like no it's over and then they said they were trying to like oh it's gonna happen

in the next one next one do they pay you oh i got a little bit because i got up from from my camera but that okay they were cool about that it's okay so and then the next one was tony and then this one are you worried about this one no so what it what is it it's uh august but you know what i'm following what you say and what people is like my biggest criticism i would say is like fight just fight just fight and that's why i was like so what happened was this was tony this was nade diaz we wait a week for nate dyes he was he was his manager was with it his manager was down with it i could show you the text i waited a week he didn't want to do it then it was perry but perry got paid by BKFC to

not fight anywhere else because there's a big fight that he has coming up. It's not Jeremy Stevens and someone else. And then who else was it? There was a bunch of names. And then it was a Mazvedal. Mosvado was a guarantee. His manager was 100% in, 100% and then he was like, he needs to win one or two fights. These are sexy

names. I know. It did for me? I was like, yes right away. Fucking Mazvedal and fucking lay him out. Pick him up by the fucking underwear and throw him out the cage. And I was like, please, dude, oh my God, I wouldn't fucking fuck him up so bad. So I was so happy. I was like, dude, these are perfect names you know what I mean so like we're going through these names we're going through these names I'm like yes yes yes every time you gas ma'am but I said yes right away like you say those

names I'm yeah because I want to prove who I am you know what I mean and then it came to a point where he was like oh Chris Avala talked about as well yeah he came up after the Nadeez thing and then he was like oh I don't know man it's like a full camper in bay and it was like kind of short notice but he's like another journeyman so he's pretty well these days he's in boxing it but he's a journeyman anti-taire's a journeyman they're all journeymen and then they then ma'am's like oh got a guy that's one to know in MMA and like he boxes or whatever and I was like just give me anybody at this point and I was like or whatever had you ever heard of this guy before Warren Spencer never I'm know his name Warren Spencer you know his name obviously I honestly don't you look up any footage of him

he did this thing he was one to know though yeah he did yeah but in MMA and I saw him do this interview where he's like I'm not doing any ground training but so like what is this going to be he's never trained jitsu he has no he has though he I think he's doing he's playing possum yeah he's playing possum yeah I think so which is fine I mean I really says he was going to wants to stand and trade with you. Trade, let's go. He probably has the same hands as you, dude. It's going to be bad.

I hope not, by the way. I hope not. I feel bad for this guy. Well, I mean, you're a black belt. All you have to do is take him down. And this is M. And this is M.M.A. Yeah.

In a ring. Yeah, which is weird. But just, there's a lot of things that are weird about it. No, but the canvas. What about it? It's like, you know, with the U.S. You know, you've been in the U.S.C. Canvas.

You know, you haven't let you in problem. No, they don't let me in. Yeah, so, like, you know, it's like sandpaper. Is it like, uh... Does it suck that you can't get into the U.S. You have to come back to the... I will be. Don't worry, I'll be U.S. champion.

I am the best. You're going to be U.S. champion? Which way class? I will bet you, my whole bankie guy, I'll become U.S. By the way. I'll be on that way car. The White House? Watch.

Watch. A couple wins. They're going to be begging, begging, begging. If John Jones a billion to one, what are you? A trillion to one? No, more than that. John Joe sucks. He's out here.

What do you mean more than that? That means you have less... He's ducked Tomlinersball. No, I know, but Dana White himself said John Jones a billion to one odds he'll be on the car. Because he's a fucking criminal. And what are the chances of you?

And he's a fucking woman beater and he's a fucking drunk driver that fucking hits pregnant woman twice. Like, what do you? Yeah, I wouldn't want him in the way. You wanted to be on the ultimate fighter, yes? Oh my God, you're such a figure. Did they not?

Huh? You talked about it on this show. Yeah, but you know why? Because they knew I was going to kill everybody, dude. This is what happens, dude? I am the fucking guy that breaks everything. Huh? Would you do contender series?

I mean, I don't know. I was going to say something. That would be incredible. Yeah, I mean, whatever, dude, these guys suck. They all suck. Sure, give me anybody. Like, Dana White sucks? No, the guys like that. Dana White's like. You love Dana. You glazing. You glaze it. You glaze it. Well, how about with turkey? Now you got turkey on you. Yeah, this is what happens.

It's a weird kind of seem like the same rhythm that it's during their back on, you know? Weird, right? Yeah, that means something with you, no? Or maybe I'm the most real one in the game. You think so? Yeah. I never heard you tell the truth. About what?

Everything. So what happened with you in Turkey? We're good. So what happened was the initial thing? Why did you unfollow him? Oh, yeah, because he unfollowed me first. Why do you un- I don't know?

Ask him. Was it just for- He unfollowed me five months ago? Maybe. Oh, my God. He did it first. Oh, wow. So you're the one of those guys

that someone follows you, you see it right away. No, five months later, I was like, oh. Forty-eight? 43, 43. So you're looking who follows you. But look, look how comfortable I am. I've got this show here.

I've got this show here. I do a show every day. Isn't that amazing? You watch my clips. You watch my clips. You're like, oh, look at this. Can you re-post that? No, I send you videos that I actually do good of you. I'm like, you should be like, show it, like, you know, sometimes.

So Warren Spencer, are you worried about this guy? I don't know. Did you see the video of him fighting the 10 haters? Oh, my God, no. You didn't see any of this? He beat 10 haters? We have the video. Look, no, but I just want you to know who your opponent is.

Here he is. Oh, my God. Look that left hand. What do you think? By the way, you retweeted a post. of him hitting myths so clearly you have seen him i see clips like it's like you know i don't pay attention oh really this is your you spend all your time on like for sure look look look at the i might play with him though look at the movement look at the body shot there to be fair though i'm not trying

to be like a look at all the haters coming after him dude's like 14 i'm just saying look at this guy look at this guy look at this dude's glasses pretty stylish he's a fucking chicken there's a who do you think's gonna be tougher for him you are the chicken no I'm just gonna the chicken but you know I'm real like I don't have any I don't know the guy I don't have any hate towards him I I never met him don't know anything I haven't done a face to face or anything

nothing I don't but like I don't hate I'm happy he took the fight no one was taking it so like I give him credit it's just I respect him of course so like no I respect that he actually signed and no one else would Mars but all these guys were pussies well he was scared to get tapped by me like it's basically what they say tell admits it tell says like I can't I'm gonna want to fight him i don't feel like getting my knee broken that's like cool as fuck i'm like all right you know what you're legit dude rock cold's a little bitch rock colds is i don't want to get in that would be a fun

one he's too big though he's like 200 this is a light heavyweight fight it's oh why do they call it oh boxing it's oh that i don't know how they did in uh that's it when it came average that's me 205 i was like no oh so it's 175 because that's light heavyway oh 170 they make up their weight classes so is this going to be a belt on the line yeah so i'm going to be a fucking bro champion in mma think about that you know what I mean think about that six years after your last fight you become a champion

in the first fight back that's pretty big that's fucking poetic justice right there what are the rankings right now where are you Dylon Dylon and Dylon son and Warren Spencer Dude he's good

I don't know if I don't know if you know what he signed up for To be honest You think he's actually delusional I hope not I don't think I think he's trained I think he's fought MMA I think he's done Jiu Jitsu

I don't Unless he's just doing it for the cloud Yeah He might be Which is gonna be Is this put more pressure on you because like let's be honest in the MMA world yeah I think in the influencer world people know but like in the MMA world dude no one who knows

I'm fighting yeah I know so could you imagine if you lost but like but is that it that I feel like there's so mean I feel like there's all pressure on you at the end the day you're the black people want to watch me yeah but yeah if you lost to a guy that I'm not gonna relax I'm just saying I point that shit in that okay I'm just sick but there is always one guy who has more pressure on their shoulders in a fight but when you're this good you don't feel pressure right right you're not nervous I'm not nervous I'm just more like Rusty?

No, not rusty. Ring rust? More like, I wish it was someone like more to get my shalong heart, you know what I mean? Like someone like, someone to get me up in the morning, you know what I mean? Like someone, they're like, it's exciting. Like it was Mazzo, I'll be like, you know. Do your opponents usually make you aroused? Depends, you know?

Wow. That is weird. Who made you the most aroused? Well, there's only like two to choose from. Yeah. Maybe Kyle Walker is working neighbor. Is he? Is that his name?

I don't know. Kyle Walker. I think that's a soccer player, by the way. Yeah, that was the guy thought. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Could you name off the top of your head the two guys that you fought in Beltaire? Dude, they're legends.

What are you talking about? I was serious. I retired both of them. Oh, that is true. Have they fought since? No. For real? Yeah, no, I'm sorry to go.

I want to see. I want to see. I was up looking shit up, dude. I just want to know. What? What? I just want to know. Have they fought since?

They're total cans. No, they're not. The one guy was a good boxer, first off, for our first fight. The other guy had, what, he was three and four trained at Jackson's in May. I was two and oh, or one and up. So that's what, okay, let's bring up Khabi's record. We're bringing up all these guys' record.

You want to talk about all this. Or someone that's a big MMA It's so long in between fights. Okay, yes. But still, I'm 2 and 0. These guys want to know an M. PFL. PFL would have been a good spot for you.

They're shit, dude. You don't like them? You're holding out for the UFC. Yeah, I mean. But how long? How long do we hold out for? Seriously. How long?

Undeniable, right? To what? I'm undeniable. You saw my post other day. I'll beat all these guys. Does Warren Spencer get you there. his last card are terrible. Yeah, I know, I saw some of those tweets.

Jesus, man. The tweets are crazy. Yeah, I had to take some time as I was like that. Why? I'm just scrutinizing the whole roster. I'm the only fighter alive with the style to strangle Hamzaa Chamaev.

None of these guys can touch my skill set. That's why they keep me away from them. Soon I'll be undeniable. When that time comes, they'll find out. You really believe that. Yeah. I would be easy. Stop, stop.

Why, if you ask questions, like, I'm telling you the truth. You really think. No, I know. I appreciate. I think that there is some level of delusion. submit him so easy. You don't understand.

Like, that style is easy, man. Okay, what would you have done differently? So the thing that Drickis did wrong was... Yeah, tell me. He didn't try... So, like, I get what his gameplay was, not to give up the bag and try to stay against the cage and not, he didn't play guard,

but his guard wasn't good enough. That's why he was going to pass into the crucifix. And then, so he's not going to, like, DeRino, his guard is very hard to pass. So he's going to get you tired. You know what I mean? So he had to get past it, or you're going to have to get up to the feet.

So what Drichus was doing when he was not trying to get up and trying to say against offense and trying to avoid this mission he's not making a hostile I'm not how to say his fucking name Hamza Hamza

I used to call him Kamsha and then fucking Kobe's stolen for me and then fucking rain with it but yeah he's not making him tired so he's not getting tired you know what I mean

like Ouzman fought he tried to get out of the positions and actually try to fight him that's why he was getting tired that whole fight but trick isn't doing anything to get him tired you know what I mean

so that's why he wasn't trying to get up he wasn't trying to avoid the hooks and trying to avoid the tape down the shots and how's that was that was Hamza or Shamaev. Yeah, Jemayev. He wasn't attacking either.

Like, who had a really good take on this? Who's the other guy that does journalism? Luke Thomas? Yeah, he was saying that he was just chest to chest whole time. Not trying to get shots. He wasn't attacking. He had a lot of opportunities to let him move to get some missions. Yeah.

But he was very, very, like, you know, trying to. Playing it safe. Yeah, playing it safe. But you got to, like, as a fan, like watching him fight, like not being an opponent or a competitor. I mean, controlling someone for 21 minutes is not easy. And what he did is fucking, like, if he could win like that. Why not? not take any damage.

But the commentator was saying they've never seen a fighter that, I know a challenger do so well against a champion for four rounds. That's not true. It's Jill Sutton. Yeah, but he lost.

No, but they were saying that at that time. Yeah, fair. He didn't lose, you know what I mean? Sure, sure, I know. We know that. We all know that. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, so you weren't impressed with him.

Michael Venom Page is in a real fighter. He's a point score with no killer instinct. He just survived by the jaws of life against a 43-year-old, washed up bum. When we fight, I'll toss him on his head and strangle him. Are you fighting? Am I wrong?

No, but when are you fighting him? When I get to the U.S. Okay. Am I wrong? About which part? All of it. Michael Page is in real fight or wrong. Okay, so when he throws these big shots.

He's four and one in the UFC. So would you rather watch, is that exactly for you to watch when I hit you with a big right hand, drop you and then dance and not finish the fight? Because I know that the higher-ups are not unhappy with it. And because he has to do something. Sure, sure. But these are two separate points. By your fucking guy that's never done you to do in his life. No, Jared Kennanier, he's been in the game for a lot.

long time but the point is you're saying he's not a real fighter like that's not a fighter that's me in you like and I'm like tapping you tapping you tap in you point square with he'll he's had some of the craziest knockouts yeah freaking do you know indented you're talking about the guys I fought look at those guys that he's not that cyborg Santos legend he indented his brain cyborg Santos you can't steal my lines I know you said Santos Santos he's terrible he's not terrible terrible terrible combined the three guys in the same ring versus cyborg today that you fought. You can't disrespect the legend.

A legend. You're going to call him a legend. Yes. Dustin Porre's last moment in the Octagon was him clenching on for dear life. Why? What is? Dustin Porreys' last moment in the Octagon was him clinching. Was he not?

Bro, come on. Bro, go out on your shields. He's a legend, man. I train with him. I know Teporee when I was a kid. I used to train of Pellu Green. I don't know what the fuck is you guys. Dustin Poree?

They all right. It's Ilya. Yeah, you go out on your shield. You want to retire? You want to do this? Oh, me go and hug you. I'm going to point to the ground. He's like one of the toughest dudes

in the history of the sport most beloved guys. Yeah, for you guys. You're doing that to try to glaze Connor. How? You're trying to, because you guys didn't speak for a long time. You're trying to get back in his good grace.

Be careful what you say. What? You know, he'll come after you. I'm not worried, because I keep a real. He knows real. Except for like, happy birthday, bro. We've been through it all together. Picture from seven years ago of you guys together.

Good picture. There's no pictures. Where are the recent pictures? I had tons. Is he helping you train for this fight? No reason. Why not? because I'm not in where he is

I don't know where he is Any pointers? Yeah, yeah, we talk every day Okay He's... I'm gonna play the voice Is he wanted to play me No, like, do you send him

Do you send him, do you send him Do you send them like? Do you have friends? Do you talk to you do this? I mean like you pretend like you train together You pretend like you train together There was a period there where you didn't talk Be honest You had a thing

You had a thing, it was public About the Lung Day And then you posted on your story And you felt betrayed Yeah, we talked about this Okay, yeah So there was a thing I mean, yeah, but friends get into the freaking stuff

You never get into argument with your friend? not public like that it wasn't public it was public you posted you were in your feelings on your story i didn't post anything you did i was a little upset but it happens and we got past him we're good now course that's how friends do shit what about training at spg uh i wouldn't yeah i just i haven't been i don't know i haven't been like up to travel lately i don't know you want to stay close to home you're your father now yeah you want to be he's here sick yeah he's here but um what's his name prince you know this did we have you don't fucking pay attention maybe not don't it's fuck though but he's very cute thank you i know he's all well you post on yourself i thought you have

like a little camera no i don't have a camera uh who's he here with people okay um dustin not even throwing a yes thank you dustin not even throwing a punch and diving for a desperate body lock in the final 10 seconds of war that swing off moment was everything and he fumbled it he's in or a debt now nothing bmf about that am i wrong or a debt who speaks like this me yeah i got if you're over 14 you can't speak losing to fucking Daniel Rodriguez, bum ass. That's got to be the most embarrassing moment of your career. This is an all-time load, Kevin Holland.

I know I've said you suck before, but you're generally- That's all the time-law, Daniel Rodriguez is terror. Dude, give me Dana Rodriguez first. Please. Please, you can't. Please. You're not in the UFC. They don't want you.

When we get there, they don't want you. I'm not trying. You've been trying to get your credentials fast for years. Yeah. You don't want to go on there. Pass? Yeah. What does that mean?

Yeah. What does that mean? You mean approved? same fucking thing I mean English Speak English No speaking English How many like would you speak

Three and a half Three and a half Yeah it was your main one Bullshit That was a good one You cooked to that one You cooked Della Listen I got you all day

So nice seeing Alexander Usick Grant a make a wish in the ring For a fan with a mental disability After his fight Real? By the way that was real Not nice making fun of them Make a Wish kids

How was that making fun of them I mean you're literally using them as fodder. No, I'm not. Jake is and Michael Wischkin. Also, are you, are you, I'm the one that

goes back to the kids, you're the one saying, can I ask a serious question? Can I ask a serious question? Your serious question is bullshit. You posted something about Diego Jota and then you posted something about, you know who he is, right?

Yeah, yeah. Who's he? The soccer player. Yeah. And you made it seem like you were like a long time fan of his. No, I was just because Liverpool.

No, no, I was in long time. What Liverpool? No, because I had the whole Liverpool thing, but like you're saying massive law. To me, this feels like you're trying to get. That's just a real person. That's just like, I don't, I... You did the same with Ozzy Osbourne?

I'm a big Aussie fan. I'm a big Aussie fan. Seriously? Yeah, of course. You just wanted to get like, oh, look at this guy. You're coming out like that, huh? This is, no, what? Are you, you're a fan of Yoga Jota?

Him, I told you, it was more of a Liverpool thing, and it was a big tragedy, obviously, and I have a lot of soccer fan. I know, but the way you... And I'm a big soccer fan. That's different. What he wrote about him was a little... That was not, like me and him are best friends. It made it seem like you were a lifelong fan of his. No, I don't admit that

Ozzy I was Ozzy actually hurt me Really? Yeah, I was very upset Top three favorite songs Can't say crazy train No Suicide Solution is number one That actually got me through a lot of

Bad spots If you want to get fucking serious We've talked about this So yeah suicide solution number one Planet Caravan Number two Number three I don't even know if these are real songs

By the way because I'm not an Ozzy fan So yeah so why you've been asking Well because I just want to know If you could think of three I'm trying to think of my favorite ones I mean we can go with Changes maybe I don't know Yeah there's a bunch of Puck song

I still have seen no change Trying to I wake in the hood Be careful now you're a rat now You're in New York City I'd be careful for rats A rat now Yeah If you went and hung out with fucking Logan

People that sue The New York City isn't like people that sue Just know that Just know that Okay Why are you getting scared I'm not getting scared It's just such a stupid comment

What do you mean? I was invited on the show I went on the show That was it going with a man that's if you're from New York you know you don't fucking around when people that

technically is he suing or his wife suing? I don't know honestly like technically from a legal standpoint who is actually

suing and who has more money I don't know they're telling they're telling me in my year bro they're telling me in my year that Warren Spencer has called in

I told him we're not allowed to do this what do you mean I'm not doing that he wants to response I know you were gonna do this what do you mean I said not. You don't want to talk to him?

Why? This is the guy that you're fighting. I'm good. Serious? Wow. I knew you were going to try to do this. I told him on my outside. You told who?

What's his name? Rex? Yeah. And I said Ariel's going to try to do this. He's here. No, I'm good. But why? You just called him a bomb.

Yeah, I'm not giving him to call. Aren't we trying to sell pay-per-views? This is on his own paper-view, August 30th, A-O-Rena? Oh, you don't get, you don't get paper-view points. So you will be mad if we bring him on. Yeah. I told the guy right now. Will you leave?

I got to leave. What you get you going to bring him? He wants to respond to you. He can come in. Why don't you have him on your show? He just called up. He called up. He got your phone number.

Yes. He called him. He said, get me on the show. This happened literally last week with Darren Till. He sent us a DM. He said, get me on the show. We got him on the show. The crowd, the people saw it happen in real time.

He did the same. Okay, that's not the point. He's here. Do you not want to speak to him? And how come? Because it's not. I'm not giving him the club. But you're about to fight him.

Sure, yeah. You can get in the ring. In 11 days. You're gonna, what? People have gone canceled for that. Oh, have it? Saying that word? So, so I'm gonna, should we say goodbye to him?

Yeah, you say goodbye to him. Tell him to fuck off and go train. This is so weird. I thought you'd want to, like, respond. I don't want to get, I don't know the dude, I don't care about him. You don't want to engage. I'm going to kill him.

It's easy. I, out of respect for you being here, I don't want to put him on, but it's. Dude, I'm on the fucking show. would be such a big name. Oh, right now? No, not now. Oh, otherwise.

He reached out and said he wanted to come on. He didn't, dude. Yes, he did. How did he get a hold of you? He DMed us. Who's us? The uncrowned people, the whole show. Uncrowned people.

Yes, we have an account. It's so funny that, Rick, your little guy's a little liar too now. What do you say? What do you say? Oh, shit. You had the idea? I know. You planted it?

I know you. Wow. This is crazy. And now you don't want it. You don't want the smoke from the guy you're about to fight. No, I don't know what you want. He can say who he wants, but he's... By the way, guys, is he really there?

Are you just messing with me? Absolutely. He's at, Frank. What the fuck is that? That's Frank. That's Frank. That's voice of God. We got a lot of new cool.

Nick, I fucking, you're a liar. There's no Nick on the team. What's his name? Frankie, is he really there? Don't show him just yet, but just tell me, yay or nay? He is here. Uh-oh. Tell him to go fuck off and train.

Wow. If he wants to come on, he has to pay the aerial tax. I feel bad because he's a little uncomfortable right now, so I don't want to make him feel bad. Well, you're sweating now. It's weird. You're about to fight the guy and you don't want to talk to him. You don't want to fight him.

Me and you are banter is better than me and his banter, don't want. I kind of want to see this. You talked to him after, go ahead. Exactly, you don't want to. I mean, this is a bummer. No, it's all about numbers for me. You're the one fighting him.

You're the one who signed up. Yeah, and it's going to happen. I'm not. You don't want to give him the rub? Yeah, we'll talk out there. Why? Why you don't want. I think you understand why,

because you're a smart guy. Legitimately, I don't. If only because he's talk shit about you, dildo, all this. Yeah, it's fine. You've talked shit about him? No, I have. So if, if on fight week, they say, like, we want to do a face-to-face or something.

I mean, I probably won't be, I don't care. Why don't you do that? Because I don't care about this dude, dude. It's just going to be. So then why you're taking the fight? And then I'm getting Mazador or Tony Ferguson. This is like a warm-up fight. No, this is more like listening to you motherfuckers talk saying, like, just fucking fight.

I know, but there's other guys. If you feel like he's so beneath you, there are other guys. If you know the names of you fucking went through, I'm missing names. I'm missing names Like Saroni said no Seroni was like All these guys They were just like dude

We're too Like we're too established Like we get type of am brains It looks so bad for us Like we can't do it They're that's the response Like it's like I'm not It's not me

I try to get every big name You think I want to fight this fucking guy I'm gonna know who the fuck he is This makes me worry That you're not gonna actually fight him What's gonna happen I'm gonna go in there No no no

That you're just gonna not show up Oh no I already have my ticket And I did my medical I mean I don't know What you're talking about You just said you don't want to fight this guy You think I want to fight this guy But, like, yeah, because you just said there's a lot of bigger names.

Yeah, but I just, I'm worried that you're not going to show up or, like, not throw any punches like the last time. Yeah, I'm not going to throw any punches. That would be bad. Yeah. That would be bad. They might make it illegal to play MMA and whatever misses after what I do to this, man. Oh, no. That's why I think it's such weird energy to not want to just hear what he has to say.

Because he's just going to yap. He's one of those, like, Andrew Tate. Like, they do, like, the hospitalary university and he's just going to fucking yap and talk. What do you think of Andrew Tate? I think he's like Injit, actually. Oh, I think he's like boys of them. He doesn't follow him on Twitter. No, I saw pictures.

He doesn't follow him. Oh, wait, how can you see that? Because it shows when you go to someone's profile who follows him? Jeez, wow, you did your research, huh? Deep dive. You're just saying, he says he's boys with him all this. Come on, let's talk to him. It'll be fun.

Bro, we're trying to, we're trying to get the numbers. You know, you know what I mean? We're trying to make some magic here. Magic is me and you. You know? Orne Spencer, the mechanic. Yeah, just put the oil on the fucking goddamn, what is it? Come on the car, bro.

Get the fuck out of here. No one care. Wow. I'm surprised. This is what he's doing it for. For the clout? That's all he's doing it for, dude. Get the rub?

I'm not giving him the rug. He doesn't deserve the rub. But you're fighting him. Yep. So regardless, in the next 10 days, it's going to be you and him. You guys are a match. So you might as well try to up the profile. Oh, I mean, he's there.

I kind of feel bad. Yeah, that's funnier. The guy wait and sit there. Could we at least just get a shot of him? Like, don't put his audio up. want to make sure that he's actually there oh there he is hello warren you can't we can't you can't you can't you can't speak like a special knees kids like out of oh that's not nice he's that he's actually there look he's laughing he's laughing he actually really called in yeah because you

said this oh my god he called in i don't know this guy why don't have a baseball on your hand no it's kind of slitter it's a irish i got lindore's oh those are nice yeah are those the uh the action bronsonsons don't change the subject or right there i know but he did a thing with action bronson oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so come on let's have fun let's respond to him no okay put him up put him up just for fun just for fun you you're fucking instagram you own me for this warren what it what do you think about what dylan's been saying about you i don't know man come on dylan come on brother oh he can't be like this put a lot wait wait wait put it in the room frankie yes in his earpiece right it's in my earpiece

oh wait how do we hear him through the speaker frankie can you put him in the room Frankie I'll just talk through Okay speak now Warren sorry about that You must have about 50 missed calls for me bro 50 missed calls I've been waiting here for this

I think he's talking to you calling my number No no can you can you hear me Yeah we hear you Warren I just wanted to know What you think of what Dylan's been saying I mean I don't know man You see

I was giving him respect I don't want to speak to me Yeah he was a nice guy I'm a nice guy I'm a nice guy. Dylan, whether you like it or not, bro, I'm going to enrich your life now. I'm going to make you, I'm going to make you richer. I'm going to give you a step and stone to be a UFC legend. So you have to like me. This is nice.

I said that about him. I said, yo, I give you fucking respect. Mazvedol, Nate Diaz, all these guys said no. And this is the only man that fucking say yes. Okay, this is good. Yeah, I told you this. So why were you so afraid to talk to him? I wasn't afraid to talk to him? Well, like a little bit nervous. You're nervous. Why was he so nervous to talk to you were? He's a scary guy. Look at him. He is a good looking like.

I don't know. I don't know I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. Dylan's like my little stepson. Do you know what I mean? Like what the stepfather would I be if I didn't cooperate to support my son? You know? I've got to be here.

Come on. He said he said that you're his stepson and what kind of a stepfather would he be if he didn't support you? It's going to be fucked up when your stepfather takes you down and puts your real grass. Here's the thing. Right. You've shown the world now. bro right that when you've got nothing left look at the Logan Paul fight okay when

there's nothing left this guy's been practice you've died you shoot for the legs and you die when you know you've lost you dive yeah I'm gonna knock you out look don't worry about that I can't believe that I've just heard that you're gonna knock me out fantastic that's exactly what I want bro your strength is like I wouldn't say C level it's pretty bad well look look I'm not sitting here I'm not sitting there wasting my time posting me training with jiu-jitsu black belts like you are saying the

eight and six you're posting with you and the best strikers in the world bro they ain't going to fight you. Best striker in the world he is the best striker in the world right now he's a boy time. They're looking after you bro aren't they let's be honest I'm not going to waste my time learning jiu-jitsu over these

past few weeks and you haven't wasted your time becoming a better striker because I know that your confidence comes from your jiu-jitsu but here's the thing I'm not going to let you grab me bro that's it if you shoot for my legs bro guess what I'm doing

I'm tapping see you later you ain't gonna you ain't gonna strangle me bro you ain't gonna get me down so you have one choice now if you say you're gonna knock me out you want to trade with you I hope you're gonna be right

not gonna be able to walk you didn't be taking out on the stretch shirt just watch when your knees are mingled then you're gonna be fucking brother I take nothing away from you your jitzy level is far superior to mine

but what do the fans want to see do they want to see me and you have a cuddle in the ring. It's not going to be a one side of those balls. Or do they want to see us have a real fight? I will see. I think this should be a boxing match. Why isn't this

a boxing match? Dillon, you said you were going to strike me, correct? You're going to strike off with me? Yeah. You promise me. You're going to have a fight with a real fight with me. If we went out to battle now on this fucking room and I would whip your eyes in 10 times

out of 10. Like, do you understand this? Fantastic. So if we're on the battlefield right now, there's armies that sold us everywhere. the fucking I damn get Tana and fucking cut your head off. Well, you wouldn't, would you? You wouldn't do that. Let's be honest. You'd be on the floor trying to cuddle somebody else.

Then you get stabbed in the back. That's not a real fight. A real fight. A real fight is a trade-off. Shoot from the hits. Let's go. Yes. I'm coming for food.

Oh, no. I don't know. I'm excited now. No? Well, he's saying... He's writing these lines all day. No, no. He's saying basically, he wants to know, will you not shoot?

Yeah, I won't shoot. You won't shoot. I don't believe him. You're lying. Beautiful. Oh, I don't, okay, I guess he believes you. He should be practicing wrestling, and I've already heard from his coaches. His coaches are close to some of my friends.

You talk to his coaches? No. Got the intel? Yeah, I know everything about him. He's doing his research on you, Warren. Are you nervous? I never watched it. I saw he was one in a mate fight.

I told you, I don't hate the dude. I don't know. I just give him respect for taking the fucking fight. That's it. I honestly have nothing, like no idea, anything about him. I can't even make fun of him. Do you believe that, Warren? I swear.

He knows that. Look, I honestly believe this. I think I'd be sure. I'd be stupid not to know. I'd be stupid not to think that Dylan wasn't going to come and die for my legs. I think he's going to die for my legs. I really do. I'm going to hit him with a big fresh one-two down the middle.

He's going to go, oh shit, this is real power. And then you're going to die for my legs and try and sniff my balls and tap me out. But I'm not going to let him. I'm not going to let myself get my leg ripped off on live television or get strangled on live television. I'm tapping. Yeah. Right. We're fighting.

We're fighting for real. Punches kick, knees, elbows. Flying dragon kick. or I'm tapping. Okay, let me ask you a question, Warren. This is very confusing. I saw him saying I'm not training MMA or anything like that. Is that true?

Are you just playing possum? Well, no, of course. This is a mixed martial arts contest. I want to see. I want to see Dylan come out and show everybody that he's a well-rounded fighter because he's calling out John Jones, all these big crazy names. Look, you have to get through the mechanic first. So if you want to show everyone you're a well-rounded fighter, right?

And you want to show you can strike, then do it. good? This is great. That's it. It's not. There isn't anything else. This is fun. He's actually a good talk. I think Matt's going to be very happy. I thought he was one of the barred talkers. He's bearing the KSI. I see some of his interviews. I actually mean Oh, so you have seen this stuff. Like he made, you're thinking too about long. Of course, I'm fighting. Yeah. Can I ask you, Warren, do you believe that Dylan also engagement farms by saying to people that if they follow him, you'll pay them, but then he doesn't actually go through me. I just put, did he listen to what I said with half and half money to give it to people? He would

actually, I say he would do it with me. more than you you guys have more money than you maybe you probably what do you think does Dylan engage what is what does they call them brokeys that's what this guy is

I don't know what that I don't really know bro to be honest with you I don't really give a shit about all that I mean Dylan Dylan's obviously that's the big online dude or are you now hotel room what's that a hostel

oh yeah I'm just chilling my hotel room just had nice little massage across the road four hands feeling sexy than ever ready to rub your ass What are you drinking What are you drinking? This is just a little

vodka lemonade. Oh, no. So close to the fight. That's good. You guys can drink? Yeah. Yeah. So close to the fight, you're still drinking? No, I haven't drinking. Maybe we'll have a glass of red wine after the fight, yeah? Yeah, well, hopefully you're not in the hospital, but yeah. Bro, I'm telling you now, you ain't going to tap me.

There's no physical way. Okay, they don't tap, but then your knee's going to be fucking mangled to the, I'm going to know what's going to happen to it. We're not going to be ever fighting again. I think what Warren said. I think he understands is that if you don't tap to what I'm going to do to you, you're not freaking to build I'll walk again. I don't think he understands. He knows that man. I understand. Ligament tears. You don't want to play that game more. It's not going to be. You're going to be out for

two, three years. This is a game that you don't understand. Dylan, I agree. I don't want a broken leg. I like my neck the way it is. You shoot, I tap. If we stand toe to toe, have a trade-off, then I'm coming for blood. I will fight you to the end. No, you won't, dude. You got dropped by his elbows. A guy from a fucking reality show. Bro, that was my first ever fight. No, it isn't, dude. You're a fucking liar because I I just looked at, you know, I had a boxing, like, eight years ago, 12 years ago. Okay, okay. I could show you the footage.

Okay, you really did your research. No, because yesterday I was like, you know, something like you're bored. This is coming from the guy that doesn't know who I am. Yes. Yeah, I don't. What did he have for lunch yesterday? The math ate, the motherfucked fucking cocked me sandwich is what he had yesterday from his fucking boyfriend in Dubai. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

What do you think about what Dylan had to say about the tape bros? It didn't seem like he was a big fan of your friends. What? I mean, I had out with my friends. What's that? What's that, Warren? I mean, listen, I hang out with my friends. I don't need to follow my friends on social media. I just hang out with them.

We just do cool shit. We have full. I don't need to show the whole world that I'm following him. He's following me. Look, I'm not even active on Twitter, bro. I have like zero on Twitter. I don't give a shit about it. That's his critique.

This guy's fucking projecting. Yeah, it's a good point. He does bring up a good point. You seem to worry a lot about who's following you and who isn't. Dude, we just went through this. That you saw Turkey. That was the first thing. You're 45 years old

and that was the first thing you said about him. No, because you brought... That was the first thing you said. The Tate brothers... Such a gnaving little fucking weasel. What's gnaving? What else, Warren? Anything else you want to say?

Caniving. Caniving? Dylan. You know, I'm mentally retarded. What else, Warren? Anything else for Dylan here? Thank you for chiming in. We appreciate it. Thank you for having me on, brother.

You know, it's just one of those things, but as a family man, you'll know. I'm sure Dylan also know is, look, I've been away from my family for fucking weeks, brother. And I'm just ready to fight now. I wish the fight was next week. I have a nine-month-old son at home that I missed like crazy.

I want to get this fight all over and done with. I want to get the payday doing. And look, I want to have a proper fight with Dylan. It's as simple as that. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to trade like real men and put on a show for the fans. This is great training this whole time. He didn't get tapped in 10 seconds.

You heard that? He's kind of whispering. I don't think he wants you to hear. He said, you're training this whole time, but you're going to get tapped in 10 seconds. See? Because I know he's going to shoot. He's going to feel the thunder. How's it going to feel, Dilla, when you get struck by lightning

in the middle of the ring, and you've got to go, oh, he's a good kid. By the mechanic. He's a good kid. Better die for the knees again. That's all I've got. Shit. This is what's going to happen. My striking is so much better than it is.

Oh, wow. He said his striking is better than yours. The last thing he thought was like, it felt like you. Same thing. Same body's, probably the same skill level. I hope not. They went to war. That's a problem.

And then he got stopped before by a kid that's like 145. I don't know, Ben Williams, I think his name is, he's an Irish kid. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's fine, I know, Ben. He got knocked out by him. Well, any final words? Any final words for Dylan, Warren, before we say goodbye. Do you know what, Dylan?

I hope you just rock up. I hope you rock up, show up, healthy, strong, ready to go. Just get the job done, brother. And then, you know, hopefully when I end your career, you can find another way to win your way into the air, UFC. But look, I'm ready to go, bro. As simple as that. No more talk. We've got the press conference

and then we'll do it. But look this is the best news ever for me, Ariel. This is the best news ever. The fact that Dylan wants to trade with me in the middle of that ring and have a proper showdown is fantastic news because now I haven't got worrying about having a cuddle with another bloke.

I don't, I just don't roll like that. You know what I mean? It's just not the way I like to do things. Well, look, it's honest. Just be honest, Dylan. The UFC is slowly becoming unwatchable. And look, What do you think about the Hasmus? You didn't like the Hasmus?

I don't lie. It's just fucking boring as fuck, man. It's so boring to watch. What the hell? Like, waste of time. You know, the... Yeah, but that'd be like, we knew we were in jail.

You know, I'd be fucking you every night. What? Weird, bro. I mean, it's true. This is... One man could hold you down, too. I'm rape you. Oh, my.

It's like I said to Couges. As soon as I feel that little boner in my back, I'm tapping. Okay. See you later. Warren, we wish you the best. Thank you for calling in. We appreciate this.

This was great. Thank you, bro. I'm going to wear my best. I'm going to wear my best cologne for you on the night, brother. Don't you worry about it. All right. Well, there he is, the mechanic. See, that wasn't so bad.

No. That was fun. We sold some paper views. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean? You're upset about this. No, I know he's the guy who's about to fight you. You're about to fight him.

You know what I'm trying to say without saying it, but you're trying to be... I'll say what I think you're trying to say. You're trying to say that you're levels above him. No. You're much more famous than he is. I mean, that's not why I'm saying this. oh really yeah what else is it will text well text but why can't you just because i'm not on anything so you know you're upset no did he call down no i don't care those okay i thought that

was good i actually think that he likes you and i think you like him i don't dude why would i don't i'm not like but the thing i'm confused bro i'm not fake like i don't i don't know the guy why what i'm confused about is are you going to shoot or not why it doesn't matter it's mama i'm i'm just saying sometimes people say like okay we'll make a we'll make a deal right now No, dude, no deals, bro. No deals? You guys are going home in a fucking stretcher. That's it.

I will strike with him, but he's going to go home in a stretcher either way. Honestly, I would shoot. Why not? I mean, you're better. Who cares? It's MMA. It's a street fight. What do you think?

How long does it take to tackle? I might play with him because he's really bad on the feet, so I might just, you know, show my steel on the feet and play with him a little bit and then, you know, play my food a little bit. But you can't go two rounds if you're doing that. I'm going to, I just. By the way, how many minutes are the rounds? It's three, five minutes. Is it really? It's commissioned by the Connecticut,

Connecticut, Mohegan Sun. Is it? Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, they're doing it. Now, how do you feel about it being in a ring? Oh, that's weird, I guess. Because I feel like actually for a jiu-git-sue guy,

the ring is worse for you. You can't press them up against... Maybe I was finding something good, but they were good. You're not worried about this at all. Are you even training for this? Yeah. I saw you with John Debella. Yeah, yeah.

Try to Montreal. Oh, is it? Oh, yeah, he told me. Yeah, yeah. Actually, we have his espresso cup right here. It's crazy. you got everybody's freaking thing you don't got one thing do you have one thing i would put it right over there in the back no i'm just kidding do you have anything do you have a bobblehead

well i'll think of something i did a big picture of my self care yeah it'd be nice yeah maybe i get a mold of my poster have you been you know it would be great you know what i want the gfl poster the gfl poster the gfl poster the event the ai one i mean it's like like this remember when you got drafted yeah they they did me dirty on that one did they yeah i was in draft the first round They were stuck. The guy You were a steal. I know, I was.

What round? What round? I don't remember. Second, third. I don't, maybe the last. So what's the plan? Okay, what's the plan? We were having a good banter and then he ruined it.

You feel like he ruined the vibe? We were having a good, you know, that's what people come for. I actually enjoyed that. It was a nice little wrinkle. Okay, so what's the plan? You fight this guy, you beat him August 30th, then what are we doing? Tony Ferguson misfits? Yeah, MMA.

Because he has to figure out that it's not, the GFL's not happening. Okay, so no more. does happen i'll be fucking when's the ufc part coming to play i don't know tony maybe mazvadole in the same oh wow so it's a lot of fights before the ufc i don't know we'll see it's up to hunter you know you you have a conversation with them recently uh john does for me oh your manager yeah yeah and what they say okay getting you know details but we're close you know you just want to see they just they just want to see me get out there they want to see you active yeah that's on your best behavior and i'm listening i'm doing what you said just stay active fight well not just fight i mean

dude i tried yeah yeah yeah You can't even say I haven't tried. No, I know. Come on. Be real for like five seconds. So you think this time next year. You're like, you start talking shit. This time next year.

I don't know. Like you're doing all this shit. This time next year. Are you in the UFC? August of 2026. I keep seeing white car. Fuck, yeah. You know, I think you're thinking of like that Palmer, the, the, the Steve Bomber party.

He does like a thing, a white party. No, you're thinking about the, your fellow. Diddy party? You love those. Yeah, I do love the ditty parties. It's where I'm, I can't get it. You know, you're not good with, like, a dark humor. um yes no mark uh michael rumen does the white party oh yeah yeah yeah fellow jewish brother

my guy fanatics yeah yeah you ever been in fanatics you ever been invited i'm close with uh some of the guys he works with but he's like uh close with uh connor no that group of people that don't like me logan oh yeah you and jacab beef i mean because of logan yeah i think you would i saw you on pier's morgan you're not that kind of person but what why would i pick your By the way, why would I pick your side in this whole thing? Because you know me way longer. Not really. I got you the most jobs.

Every time you got in hiring, it's like, you have to have Dylan on this many times. You know that. It's a fact. It's in your contract. Do you want to bring up the contract? When you do like interviews and stuff, do you, um, here we go, come on. Do you like buy views for the interviews? Yeah, all the time.

Do you do that? Yeah, I just get like a million. That's what you do. Easy. Just to make it seem like your numbers are high. No. You would do that sort of thing, would you not? And then you can say, look, I bring you the numbers.

More than this guy. More than that guy. You got this all to a T. It seems like you do it to. I didn't know. You just fucking snitch on yourself. No, I, uh, you know, I get educated about things. Yeah?

Well, about the ways of certain people. Well, you could see it because you had the analytics. Yes. That's where you get educated. So you get good looked. Okay. Yeah, that's why I'm asking the question. You don't buy.

No. Like, I mean, you could look it up on the analytics. You boughts and things like that? I'm not how to do that. Yeah. You meant me? You think I'm smart enough to do that? All my fucking videos have fucking millions.

I know. Listen, I don't know how you pay people. How do you pay them? How do you pay them, by the way? Cash up or Venmo. You get their information? Yeah, I DM them. So you DM them, they say, can you just show me one?

Because it would be a recent one, right? Dude, you're fucking weird. Why? You're just a weird dude. Why? You say that you're going to say, here, can you pick the winner? What is this? I want Dylan.

I want already. Yeah, everybody wants to fucking win. Go fell off so much that even Grock ain't ignoring him. Let's see if he actually pays. give him a name listen i i hope you paid like there's tons of them there's one i don't know who they do you think i know these guys not their guy i mean i can't really see you're sort of blocking it i don't know the camera's looking because i don't want to show like certain names okay no we're not showing anything but i can't really see so you could see then so what is this it's just me paying

people like message me to say like hey i need this for the weekend or do i like hey can you help me out with my friends no just people in the comments they just write to you yeah they're like hey listen like i'm having a tough week my car broke down can you like help me fix my like serious Swerga there's people that will

I know how do you know they're not bullshitting you that's the one thing I have to look out for but like

I mean I want to help people if they're gonna use it for they're gonna use it for but you know

it is what it is and what app is that that's cash app oh wow yeah or I could do crypto

okay so so what you're saying is every time you do this and someone wins you pay that and I do

like on the like when I do like when I do like my gambling stuff and I'm making I'm winning and like people

like hey like this weekend I want to have a bunch of beers with the boys I'd be like yeah is that a sponsor no so it depends like me and them since I've been winning so much money we're working on a deal now so you just did it on your own I was but it's good for me though yeah of now now they're gonna now they're plugging now you were plugging now you were I wasn't plugging you go look do I have any plugs no but like you're showing the screen well I'm storing the screen because I'm yeah yeah yeah yeah but no but like now we became legit it's good they're responsible but I feel like this is this is problematic

well because if you're not fighting you're not making money but you're spending money on canpling, you're going to be in the hole. And I like helping people out, unlike you. But, yeah, they say, hey, listen. So those are just people are like, hey, like, yeah, I want to have beers. I want to have some nose beers for the weekend. You know, that's it. Wow.

I like to hold the people out. You're like the Robin Hood. I'm a man of the people. You're the Robin Hood of the martial arts community. I'm trying to teach you. Like, you should get back more, you know. Top five guy in the whole, you know, MMA space. You know, a lot of.

That's the qualifier. That's a big deal. I saw you would chill. Yeah. We had a nice lunch. Yeah, what did you guys talk about? You, the whole time? The whole time?

Wow. So much we hate you. Look at this. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. He did a nice thing that day. Oh, you can use my joke that you can talk shit out.

I just said he did a nice thing that there. Yeah, yeah, you get my joke. He gets Jake Paul, the Usick one. I get it. I just said he did a nice thing. Two steps ahead of you. Why are you so, why you got this energy? Why are you so angry?

I'm trying to make it fucking entertaining because you. We wanted to bring your opponent on and you... He's terrible at talking. He's like a fucking damn... But why this energy? Why are you like so aggressive? whole time. Really?

Yeah. From the get-go, you said you had beef with me. Yeah. Over the fact that I went on Logan Paul's podcast, really? Like some, like, jilted lover. How could you do that to me? How could you go on the podcast of the guy? The guy that's suing your friend that's known you for 10 years.

We say loosely. We don't even have each other's number. It's because you got your elite. Yeah. I didn't do it. And you were more mad by the way. And no, and by the way, the reason I went back. It was great because I went back to everyone.

I went back to everyone. You asked my number yesterday. Yeah, no, Eric asked. No, you asked for my number yesterday from John. Yeah, to give to Eric. No, you asked from my number yesterday from John. Did I text you? Yeah, because we had to get you the fucking car, man.

To get you here. And I said, no, I'm not giving it to the arrow because he. Yeah, and then he gave it. He gave it, and then I passed it right off. Oh, my God. What's wrong? We thought about it last time. I didn't bring it up, you know.

Me sending you dick picks. No, the leaked messages. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Those were spicy. Those were spicy. Did you go into the corner and get off on those? what you're the only

which one I have an only fans yeah wow tell me tell me about it I'm not getting mad tell me who's it got on the speaker Frankie

yeah pull up the tweet which tweet oh there's another one put it up no no no no pull up the tweet from the guy from real world

the guy from real world five by the way can I just say the guy from real world pull up his tweet yeah whoever you are in the back

Rick or I just said his name is Frank for the fifth time guy from real world aerial yeah okay and you're buying the girls only fans and you were oh yeah yeah yeah we were through the interview in the room yeah what are you talking about bro pull up the tweets you're a fucking psychotic pull up the tweets you're a weirdo man you're such a weirdo you make up shit all the time you just made up shit for the past half hours about to give me one thing

that I made up I can't remember because you yapped so much pull it up welcome he they can't pull up tweets for me but they can both tweets for you huh we had your tweets from your Twitter can I can you what and message him to tweet to pull up yeah yeah go ahead go ahead yeah he'll pull it he'll pull it all right on who Frank what no uh is that Frank one time bro I said his name like six times I know I'm retorted I told you I can hit in the head I actually get never told me that but you actually did just admit to it right now yes well I don't care yeah I get hit this is riveting car all right so guys August 30th oh yeah what I thought you're 90 you don't want to send tweet no we're at

236 oh so yeah yeah you got me good you got me good keep going keep going do I send them or not yeah yeah you good you're good keep going I guess so defensive I'm not they say we're literally not getting defensive go go ahead okay yeah this is good to find it well i mean i'm trying to do a show here it's fine i'll see you on today freaking scroops uh carlos elberg mike perry weren't you weren't you supposed to uh fight mike perry too wasn't there talks to that one we talked about this already that he got signed by no bkfc gave him money to not fight anywhere else because he has a big fight you're not talking to the microphone bkfc paid him money not to fight anywhere else because he has a really big fight coming up

in bkfc it's not jeremy stevens What do you mean? He's fighting Jeremy Stevens. After that one. Robbie Lawler. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. I'm not like I see the opponent. Why would I do that? I mean, everyone knows. They've already talked about it. Okay, so there's you saying that. I'm not saying.

All right. Well, here we go. Yes. Let me see if there's anything else to talk to you about. This was good. This was fun. You thought this was a good one? I think people are. Oh, here. I got it right here. Mams is happy. Yeah. Got it right here. Who do I send it to Eric? Send it to Eric.

Go, so pull this up. Yeah, yep. Dylan Dannis is going to fight at Misfits 22, August 30th, A.O. Arena, Manchester. I scale 1 to 10, how much you love me? I think I would say like a 14. Wow. You're good. I don't want to send it.

I don't want to send it. I mean, you keep talking about sending things. There's the poster. I like the poster, by the way. Terrible. My face is like AI. They got to stop doing AI to me. You're not happy about anything.

This is a good poster. You told me that that's not me? I thought it was a pretty good shot. I don't know. Why they got to keep doing AI? Why is this AI? I'm seeing that picture of me is not real. That's AI.

Well, obviously, I thought it was just a Photoshop of you on some guy's body. I don't know what it is, but it looks weird. Look at the shape of me. Is that not you? Is that not you? Your face? All right, so I send the text. Okay, okay, okay.

August 30th, DeZone pay-per-view. You're not getting pay-per-view points. Yes. Tony, yes, you're not? That's crazy, by the way. We need to talk to John about that. Let me talk to a lot of people about a lot of things. A lot of things, yes.

I'm distraved. I actually want to. to come in today. He's just not talking to be like, you know, everybody disrespect me, you know? Everybody uses me for shit and, like, fuck everybody. I'm not talking about John. I'm just talking in general, the MMA world. I fucking... You don't feel... This is actually the best part of the interview. Yeah, I just... You're not feeling the love.

Fuck everybody, dude. Wow. I do, like, I do good shit, and you're fucking getting them putting it down. I do this. When did I, when did I put it down? Oh, you don't get people money, you don't do this? Bro, you're never going to be in the U.S. or you're playing this guy. And you're the one telling me to fight anybody. I like this guy. You're telling me fucking get fights in. Yeah, I mean, against, like, MMA fighters.

Was I not true? All right, so pull up the tweet, please? Okay, they're working on it. August 30. It's not hard to do. You pulled up 30 of my tweets in 10 seconds. Dylan Danis, the zone pay-per-view, A.O. Arena. Are you going to be there?

It's good. No. Usually when they have me, they hire you. Because they get more money so they can get the big guns. Yeah, they didn't ask me this time. I could tell them. I can put in a word? Do you want to call them there?

No. I'm going to be on vacation. Where? Can't say. I think people are going to fucking look for you? Come on. Martha's been here. Oh, really?

Yeah. You've been there? No, never, but it's nice. I'm going to know where it is, but it sounds like. Next to Cape Cod. Oh, really? Massachusetts. Oh, good.

Much love. Oh, you're going to do that? Yeah. You, motherfucker. This is live. This is life. This is live. This is live.

I'm bringing it up. I had the text. I sent the text. I sent the text. It's good to have Dylan here. We have to get to our next guest. God bless Dylan, Dennis. And God bless Warren Spencer.

That was great stuff. Appreciate it. We'll see you in a minute, a little break coming up after this. Oh, hello. We are back. Sorry, I was just writing to someone here. We took a little bit longer to come back because I feel like I needed a bit of a shower after that one.

Golly. Why is it always? Why is it always like that? Why is it always like that with Dylan Dennis? Always comes with this like intensity and this energy. Like, oh, I got something I do. If anything, I feel like we sold some pay-per-views there. I know he doesn't profit off the pay-per-views,

but I feel like we introduce the world to Warren Spencer. People know who he is. He keeps thinking that he's got some dirt on me. And I say, go ahead, reveal it. Tell the world. Tell everyone what you have on me. And he brings back the same old hits. Oh, remember the time that UFC did this?

Remember the time that you lost these jobs? Oh, my God, it's the same old hit. So if you didn't enjoy that, I apologize. If you did enjoy that, then you're welcome. And I've got some cash app money for you, apparently. Oh, yes, there's the cup. We could give it to him if you guys want. In a few moments, we're going to be joined by Carlos Alberg.

Carlos Alberg is fighting Dominic Reyes in September. It's very early where he is. He's in Perth. And that fight is on September 27th. Is it September 27th? Oh, it's September 27th here in America, September 28th, because I always see 28th, which is a Sunday, a Sunday in Perth, 27th in the United States, 28th in Perth. And then after that, we're going to be joined by Mike Perry versus Jeremy Stevens. And, well, hopefully it goes a

little better than that last face-to-face. Do we have any super chats, Frank? I said I was going to try to get through those now, but we might not have... Oh, yeah, we do. We sure do. Yes. Starting us off is Sammy. It says tomorrow marks one year of teaming up with Yahoo Sports and launch of the show. Oh, yeah.

Highlights of the year, congratulations on a great year. It's been a pleasure watching the show. Man, highlights. S.E.K. What is that again? Singapore? I believe so. Swedish Corona. I believe it. Is that true?

Swedish Kroner. Wait, they don't use the Euro in Sweden. Sammy is a long-time listener and watcher. No, I know. But do they use the Euro in Sweden? Apparently not. No, I guess it's the Kroner. Use the Kroner.

Highlight, gosh. Well, other than that interview, I would say, well, the day we launched, I think it was October 14th. I would say cross last week was great. Heyman was amazing. That show that had Heyman and DDP and all those guys, that was a great one. What else, guys? What else?

Then we have, get the boy an iPad. Oh, no, no, no. I was asking for highlights. I thought the haircut yesterday was pretty good. Haircut was great. I mean, we can't just say the highlights are things that happened in the last seven days. International Fight Week was great. International Fight Week was fantastic.

The Hardy Boys in studio was great. Paul Hayman was incredible. Mentioned that one. Yeah, International Fight League was the highlight for me so far. Yeah. Oh, they're fighting back here, too, Frank and Jordan. One. A hostile day on the show.

Dylan was right about something short. Yeah. I have not sent any text messages. Oh, my gosh. What else, Frank? What else? And you want another super chat, just to be clear. Yes. I didn't mean other memories now. Before I meant other memories, now I mean others. I heard what else. Yes, yes, yes. Get that boy an iPad. We'll chip in in the chat. That's my son that you're talking about. Yes. We'll get them one. Wait, iPad or iPhone? It said iPad. I think they mean phone. We're going to do it. End of 2025. That's when we're doing it. Awesome. What else? We have spoke to Ariel Huwani, but any of the crew hear of or see the VFL.

Oh, yes, this is my guy Shady. Is it Shady or Shadi? I think it's Shady. VFL is a promotion that did a show in Times Square on Friday. No joke. And I'm trying to pick my words. I couldn't believe that a show was happening in Times Square. Like, you think about all the hullabaloo surrounding the Ring magazine show.

you know the one that was put on by Turkey and the ring Saudi Arabia and Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney like who's who everyone was talking about it and I don't think anyone really knew that this was happening there was no promotion for it I saw a couple of famous fighters there I don't know if they were paid to be there or what they were like sort of guest fighters

I don't know where you could watch it it wasn't on Fight Pass it wasn't on YouTube at least I didn't see it was on YouTube and we were talking about it because I saw some like aerial shots of it but I didn't actually see any highlights of the fights did anyone else see anything because I couldn't believe that a promotion that is that young oh there's a can right here let me touch it with my left hand because I don't want to get cooties one second I couldn't believe that there's difference between touching with your left

and right well they say left hand is like you know the you don't shake someone's hand with your left because that's your cootie hand that's your if you must know like they say that's where you clean yourself you know what I'm talking about you didn't know that I used toilet paper but whatever yeah yeah victory fighting league

yes victory fightingly did you see any highlights the only highlight that I saw was Matt Fravol I believe posted a video of him walking out with one of his teammates and they're literally walking through Times Square

to the cage one of my oh yes I saw that too but I never actually did you see any actual zero highlights right one of my friends Jordan Morgan

who was an amateur heavy weight. I believe he's making his transition to professional now. Former offensive tackle in the NFL. Oh, yes. I've been to one of his amateur MMA fights. Great fighter. Very dedicated to the game. He was supposed to fight on this card, but I have not

seen any results from it on his Instagram or anything like that. I don't know if he ever fought in the Victory Fighting League Tapology page has not been updated. They're still awaiting results on the card. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his name was taken off of it, so I don't know if he actually ended up fighting or not.

So, yeah, I really saw nothing from him, but man, to be fighting in Times Square, you'd think there would be more promotion for it. Someone here is saying that they had it on a $30 pay-per-view. I don't even know where. That feels like the wrong decision, no? Victory, I'm on their Instagram right now. I didn't, I didn't see any highlight. I didn't see any clip. Wow, it's like, it's legit in Times Square. They have a bit of a highlight video up on their, on their idea. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah, they were definitely fighting. Wow. Oh, yeah. I'll pull this video in it and we can, we can, we can,

play later in the show. Yeah, they really had something going there. All right. Well, there it is. I did see some of the stuff. Some people asked me about it, so I looked into it, but I did not see a lot of promotion. They were in New York. They didn't ask us to promote or come on the show or anything like that. And I don't know. I don't know. I would imagine it's pretty expensive to run a show in Times Square, right? I would imagine that's a pretty penny. And I was just surprised that they pick the place like Times Square with, you know, not so much promotion or fanfare or anything like that. But I do wish them well. And if they're able to run Times Square with that, you know, type of, you know, I would imagine with that type of cash behind it, I hope that they are a player.

I hope that they can put on some fights that people want to see and give fighters an opportunity to actually, you know, have some options, have some actual options. What else, Frank? What else? Dylan could fight for them if the UFC dream doesn't come to fruition. What else, Frankie? What else? Crow Mojo sent a super chat indicating that you hadn't covered the two Japanese fighters who unfortunately passed away. I just wanted to have you see this and set the record that you did, in fact,

covered it. We did, I think, on our regular show and the DeZone show. So, I don't know. Sometimes people don't see everything. It's a long program. but we definitely did talk about this last week. We talked about it with Aday, and we also talked about it on this show. And we did talk about – actually, we didn't talk about because this came out afterwards

that the promotion – no, was it the promotion – I think it was the Japanese boxing commission said that they were going to look into it. They said that they were actually going to look into what happened, and obviously it's a shocking thing for one person to die in case you don't know what we're talking about. two fighters died from the same card due to damages inflicted from fights on the same card, which is just like mind-blowing, absolutely mind-blowing. I saw some sort of tweet, some reporting, insinuating that they were going to look into it and try to be on top of these things from a medical standpoint. I don't know. I don't know how that happens. Shocking, shocking stuff.

Heartbreaking, horrible for the fighters, obviously, for the families, and for the whole Japanese combat scene because they were enjoying and are enjoying a tremendous renaissance, not only in MMA, but in boxing as well. Junto Nakatani, in a way, that could be a gigantic fight in 26. So this is heartbreaking stuff. Was there anything else? Yes. Lastly, we have Mom Jeems, despite some of the jabs of Dylan, I hope you all are actually cool. Mom Jeans is a great name. Yeah, we're cool.

We've always been cool. I just don't know why he comes with so much animosity. Like, why can we just have a normal chat? Why does it have to be off the jump? I got a bone to pick with you. I don't even remember what the bone was. Oh, it was the, you went on Logan Paul's, you went on Logan Paul's podcast. Who cares?

Who absolutely cares? Weirdo behavior. And maybe that's just a thing that he's doing. to try to create some animosity? I don't know. But who the fuck knows? Who the fuck knows? It gets him some attention.

All right, let me see if I got some other news and notes here before we get to. Oh, I did see this tweet here from Hamza Chamaev. Is this the real Reneer de Ritter? I don't know. There's one that's trolling and there's one that isn't. Oh, I think this one actually might be the real one. The troll one also quote tweeted it as well. There's two RDRs.

Yeah, there's actually only one. Well, I know there's one real one, but there's two that like gets attention. The Ritter MMA is the fake one. Okay. Paolo Costa chimed in as well. I think he posted his gourmet Chenchin hat to this RDR. Does this mean Hamza wants RDR next? Is that what it means?

No, I think he wants Hamzaa next. wait what no does this mean humzat writing RDR with a skull does this mean Hamsat wants RDR next Hamsat won RDR next I don't know I feel like the skull is him almost like laughing that

Oh I feel like he's saying like you're dead Oh you're dead? Yeah All right yeah Hamsat RDR then Do it in Abu Dhabi Supercard With Tom I don't think Humsett's funny enough

I know I know Two months I just thought that was interesting because we all kind of suspect that it's Kyle versus Nasrudein next and then the winner of that would get the winner. Maybe he's saying, I want that guy.

Would you be okay with that? Yeah. Yeah, I'd be all right with it. He's got some momentum. Yeah. I actually think it would be a fun style matchup. I just don't know if he's done enough. I mean, actually, a win over Whitaker. That's how Humsaw got his shot.

That's how DDP got his shot. That's good point, fuck. I guess Whitaker's just at a different point in his career now. I'm cool with it. You're cool with it? It just all depends on the timing because obviously, the Mavov-Bhalio fight's about to happen. Yes, yes.

I don't think it's going to happen, but I appreciate him trying to call his shot. What about this? Johnny Walker, he's in Shanghai. He's getting ready to fight Ming Yang Zhang, and he was signing the posters, the poster signing of Doom, and he was singing.

I do believe the Brazilian national anthem. I love that. His brother's there too. Johnny Walker, what a character. Is he the underdog going into this fight? I would imagine so, right? Size boy, yeah, he's like a plus 270. Oh, that's not so bad.

I thought it would actually be bigger. Let's see. What's Mingyang? Let me go to my typology app here. Yeah, like minus 350. Minus 350. Oh yeah, they also faced off. Look at that shot.

Look at that hair. Looks like Rick's hair. Exactly like it. Mine's better. I like it. I like Walker's get up. By the way, Walker, minus $3.95.

No. That's what it says on tapology. That would be incorrect. You think so? Johnny Walker? No, no, no, sorry. Jean. Yes, yes, yes.

Minus 395. Yeah, it's moved a little bit. Minus 395, that's what I was thinking. You can get like minus 35, minus 325, minus 4,00, but yeah, it's in that range. Plus 285, yeah. He's lost two in a row.

This feels like a fight where they're trying to elevate Ming Yang, right? Yeah, trying to get them over. As much power as Yang doesn't usually match up well for Johnny Walker. And then in the co-main event, we have Brian Ortega against Al Jemaine Sterling. I feel like kind of flying under the radar this fight. I believe five rounds, no?

Five rounds. Yes, I saw that from Marcel. Minus 305 for Aljo. Are you surprised that it's that high? I don't know. I mean, I think he's going to be able to deal with Brian Ortega's grappling. Yeah. Oh, man.

minus that's just because Ortega's been around at 145 so much longer aged out T city man no no no no maybe worth a flyer but uh I'll be sipping on my phone carver at 7 a.m watching the main card okay here's the thing his last I say legitimate win at 145 was in October of 2020 because the I year one was weird right oh no wait no no back in that one yes you know he won that one sorry my bad my bad okay no so it was i think that's i'm surprised it's that high all right h dot t city the only thing i'm worried about is the weight cup because he was talking about 155 for a very long time and uh obviously lopez had his way lopez almost knocked him out in like the first minute of their fight if you recall oh yeah

he was on the way down and then he woke him up it's crazy yeah do we have carlos uh we are Checking them in right now. Oh, okay. And was there in? Real quick. There was one super chat that apparently went missing, so I can't show it on the screen. Okay.

All this is is from Bleeding Edge MMA. It says, Ariel, with Amanda and Kayla, you said you would never want it to ambush a guest with an opponent. Why is this different? With Amanda and Kayla? Amanda Nunes? I think he's referring to Pena. Oh, Pena.

I mean, we did ask. We did ask Mr. Dillon multiple times, and the guy was there, and, um, yeah, I feel, I feel like we, I feel like he was saying it with his eyes. He was saying with his eyes that he wanted him. He just didn't want to say that he wanted him. I mean, how many times did I ask him? And yes, uh, to your point, I suppose, uh, he did kind of say like, no. I guess what I'm really trying to say is I have respect for those people and I don't know if I have that same kind of respect for Dylan. I'm just going to be

honest. Prove it to us. Prove it to us. You haven't fought in six years. You haven't fought in six years in MMA. You haven't fought period in two years. Prove it to us. Prove it to the world. That's what you do. You talk shit about fighters all day long.

You do that. You don't actually fight. If you fight and talk shit then you could get away with it. You talk shit, but don't fight. And you could say it's bad luck or this or that. Maybe you're signing up for fights that you know are not going to come to fruition. But I don't consider bringing in Warren Spencer to talk to Dylan Dennis the same as bringing in Giuliana to talk to Kayla or Kayla to talk to Juliana. I know what you're talking about. I do always say that. That's 100% true. This one to me felt a little bit different. And if you want to say that that's hypocritical, then fine. Call me a

hypocrite. The level of respect is dramatically different, in my opinion. So, thumbs the brakes. Sorry. I do think we have our next guest lined up here. Do we have him? Yes, we do. All right, here he is. He's going to be headlining his first UFC show on September the 27th here in America, the 28th over in Perth. Huge fight for him, very important fight in the UFC light heavyweight division. He's the one and only Carlos Hullberg, going up against Dominic Reyes in a little over a month's time. Hello, Carlos, good morning to you. Carlos, can you hear me? I don't know if you can hear me, guys.

I can only just hear you, bro. Oh, can you hear me now? Carlos, can you hear me? You're just faint in the background. Okay, let me keep going. Carlos, can you hear me? Can you hear me? Hello, hello, hello?

Frank, what do I do? Talk to me. We'll take care of this. Hold on one second. Okay. We're going to be with you. There's some sort of audio issue here. Let's see. Let's see. Is that a cat next to him or something? I don't know if he can hear me. But we'll get him. Oh, there's the cat. Oh, look at that. Oh, you guys can't see what I'm seeing. You should be good. Corner of my... Can you hear me now, Carlos?

Oh, good. Okay. Thanks for doing this. Appreciate it. Oh, good, man. I know it's early in the morning over there. Are you an early riser or are you doing this under duress? I am actually an early riser, man, so it's all good. We're right. Okay. To get the chill morning.

Is that your cat? Yeah, it's a cat just wandering around asking for food. Okay. What's the cat's name? Pikachu. Oh, are you an anime fan? A little bit. Pokemon

A little bit Yes Yeah Pokemon The Dragon Ball Big opportunity for you When you got the The word

That you'll be headlining this Perth card Against someone Like Dominic Gray's Former Tedok A guy who I actually

thought beat Beat John Jones In 2020 What did you think? About that fight Yeah Were you happy About the opportunity

Yeah Yeah for sure Man I mean It was a no brainer For us It'd been so close to home And

and a headliner so the first time we're headlining in five rounds something to prepare for for something bigger what is bigger what's the next thing do you think this gets you a title shot yeah a win over a rios definitely gets me a title shot for sure you you go in there you put a performance put on a performance and you you you handle business then there will be no denying a title shot for sure i i have a hard time arguing with you on that one. I think you're accurate. I'm just wondering, have you or your team been told this? Not directly, not directly, but it's all about going in there and handling business, and that's all it comes down to for sure. You were scheduled to fight him a couple times in

2024. So this is someone you've kind of thought about already, right? Like you've already had some sort of look at him, some sort of game planning, some sort of thoughts on fighting him. So it's not totally foreign to get ready for Dominic Reyes. Is that accurate? Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's, yeah, we were supposed to fight about a year ago, right? And I think, I'm not too sure what happened there. I think maybe, I'm not even sure who pulled out, but it didn't happen.

And that's fine. Now we're in the position where we're headlining this show. So that's even more exciting. And so you had a chance to be next to him. You guys did a press conference recently a couple of weeks ago. what type of vibes did you get from him what type of energy here you guys are facing off he made the track out there what kind of vibes did you get from him yeah good energy he's he's he's a good fellow I've met him previously about a couple weeks before that as well when I went to

Vegas and and we exchanged some words real positive and we didn't know we were going to fight each other at this point either so it was nice to have the balance but he came and correct when we met up in Perth, the same energy. So, yeah, you can tell that he's been in there for, he's been in there. And he's, he's, he's paid his way to this path where he is now. You know, I did notice in that press conference you referred to him as an old-timer. Right? Am I right? Yeah, sure.

I think technically he's only 11 months older than you. So what did you mean by that? There's the age breakdown for those that don't know. Oh, you had to pull that up, me. Well, I just, well, because I think maybe what, because I saw people commenting on it, so I think maybe what you meant was he's been around the UFC longer than you. Is that what you're referring to? Could be, could be, but when you hit 30 years old, every year counts, man, every year counts.

Okay. Fair enough. So, so what did you mean when you call them that? Is it just technically that he's older than you, period, which is a fact? That's it. Okay. He has looked good, though, as of light. No, I mean, he has turned things around.

He was on a skid there, but I think lately he's really, I don't know, he's rebounded nicely, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, he was on that skit, right? And, yeah, I think he's done some searching or done some things in his camps, and now he's obviously on that three-fight win streak. So, yeah, I think that's really good, like, for us both, for me to be fighting someone, like him at this stage of his career where he's now on the up and on a different version of Ares.

There was, in that same exchange, it was a good back and forth between you guys when you were asked, I think about it being a five-round fight, the main event, and you said you didn't need that extra time and sort of insinuated that you didn't really need to train for this one,

that it would be relatively easy. Is that you just trying to get under his skin or is that legit how you feel? Just a bit of light banter, man. Just a bit of light banter. I don't take any fight. too lightly you know I'm always training

I'm always in the gym and you know it's I have a goal ahead of me so it's just a bit of light banter we had a bit of fun the room was pretty dry so we had to make some sort of fun out of it

and I think we both respect each other anyway and there wasn't any any bad blood there I love that I love that and it did work I think for the record

I think as far as the UFC is concerned, this is just your first time fighting close to home, right? Second time. Excuse me, second time fighting close to home. That's will be the second time. Yeah, you've only fought once before. How big of a deal is that to you? Are you happy about this or do you not care? Do you prefer fighting in North America or overseas?

I love America. I do love fighting in America. I do love the trip to America. But fighting in someone so close to home is special. it's huge it's it's the opportunity for family members now to travel over and and for me to do to do it all in front of in front of my home ground that's going to be special so yeah i think that's that in itself speaks speaks speaks alone um your last performance great win over yan bovich do you feel like that was the the stepping stone fight for you is that the one where people started to talk

about you as being a legit contender or do you feel like that was the case going into that fight already yeah I thought so man I mean like after the fight I thought okay there'd be no denying you know you fought someone who's who's also fought and gave both the champion and the the um former champion a very good go and this may put me in the position where okay you might be the the title contender next so that was where my thoughts were um but obviously the UFC had different plans and that's fine that's fine um but you know fighting the guy like yan you can't he was tough man he was a lot tougher than i thought than i expected um and you know there's not many people in the division who can say they

went in there with yan and handled business uh because yan is tough he's uh he's a he's he's as tough his nails, man. And so, just curious, were you disappointed? Were you bummed? At what? That you didn't get the title shot off of that? Yeah, I was bummed. I was bummed, for sure.

Yeah. Were you told before the fight? Not directly, but I mean, just, you know, there was, there was just a bit. I mean, when you're on a, at the time, a seven, now eight win, fight, win streak, it's big, especially in the light heavyweight division. But I know now, you know, it's headlining the show. I think it all just makes sense now

because preparing for a title shot, I want to know that I have done a five-round fight and I think this is all perfect. Everything just flows. Whether, you know, coming off that fight with yarn and having the win and thinking, you know, this should cement me for a title shop. Now it's like, okay, it makes sense.

Okay, I've now I've got this opportunity. there's a five-round fight now and this will prepare me for this type of shot so all I need to do now is go in there do what I do and then and then call my shot in a weird way I do wonder

if Alex Pereira would have beaten Mago Medan Kalayaev do you think that you'd be fighting for the belt already? Do you think the fact that he lost and they ran it back delayed things for you? Could be yeah for sure because when you look at it when you look at

the division I think he's already fought everyone else up there in their top five so that would have definitely given me that shot who do you think wins the rematch by the way who do I think man that's a tough

fight it's a tough fight you have you have Uncle Live who's he's very technical very sharp but then he has a lot of power he can go to the ground if he wants to then you have Beira who's who's who's got something to prove now and he's been there before

and yeah it's a tough one to sit to sit on so I think yeah it's just I think it's going to be a tough fight but it'll be interesting to be there to watch it are you going to go there it? It'll be interesting to be there to watch it yeah yeah because it's right after yours

so you win your fight fly over to America that's the plan man get in the cage maybe face to face that's it I love that but but for the record you're not leaning one way or the other no

is there someone that you prefer to win meaning like oh I want to I want to fight you know you're presuming you're going to win you know what fighting either fighting either one of those guys but I mean if Uncle Live gets the win that just means that there'll be no trilogy there'll be no

there'll be you know and then if anyone can beat Uncle Liev then that would just mean you're at the cream, you're at the top, you're at the top. Right. Which matchup do you like better? Either one man, I think either fight just put just as massive. But if Uncle Live can pull that win, then it just cements him to be the dominant one at the top at the moment. By the way, the shaved head look.

What does this represent? my shaped head look that's just clean man it just just clean business um what's that maybe business

you know no time for making the hair all nice you're you're worried about other things yeah that's it that's it don't need to wake up and worry about my hair five minutes in the in the mirror just get up and go so yeah I think it just

yeah it's it's winter here so when I got the hair When I got the hair shaved, it was like, it's a bit cold. But, yeah, it just, it just means it's time to get to work, I think. By the way, something that I learned recently, your father, he represented Samoa in the Commonwealth Games, right? In boxing? He did. Yeah, he did.

Incredible. Is he from Samoa originally? He's from Samoa, yeah. Wow. But where were you born? I was born here in New Zealand. Do you go back there? I have been back there

but I haven't recently just been busy here in New Zealand so it'll be nice to go back because when I've gone back before I really felt like I was home Did he try to get you into boxing first before you made the transition to MMA?

Yeah well when I was younger he'd always get me to do pad work with him and that was kind of like a form of some form of like if I had to do like some short like I guess I had to do it every day really

just for just I guess it was just a fitness or just to burn some energy before I go to sleep and so ultimately why didn't you continue down that path like him as far as boxing over MMA? I don't know actually I think I just went into a different path and as you do you kind of just find your way back and you get older and you start understanding things and realizing where your

potentials are at but I did continue on with a bit of rugby rugby league I played pretty much all the sports that you can name that were no one here in New Zealand and gave it a shot did really well with every single one of them and then just found that fighting was so different that feeling that I had after my very first fight and then every fight after that was just the confirmation that, yeah, this is it, this is where I belong. So with all those other sports, although it was

a really good team playing sport and good adrenaline, this was just a different challenge and that's what I needed. There was a little bit of fighting in the rugby, right? So that kind of opened the door for you to get to MMA, right? Yeah, there was a little bit of

that too, yeah. But it was the physicality in league that I loved but then just something else that when I had this fight in rugby league that was just that there was something with the intent that I had in my eyes and I think that's what

that's what the judiciary had had chosen that this guy doesn't belong here did you always kind of feel like you had that like were you always a fiery kid growing up not yeah well I mean not so much of a fiery kid I was always very calm and and collected

collected just when the switch happened then I could switch it on and off. I saw at the UFC Hall of Fame in June you were hanging with the Big Oos himself, Dwayne Johnson. Oost, yeah, man. Yeah,

I mean, I didn't get to actually meet him, but I thought you know what, like he is the man he is a good representative of Samoa and he represents it well, he makes us all look really good So he is definitely up there in terms of idols for me growing up watching him and just idolizing someone like him.

So when I was like almost about to... You were literally like steps away from him. I could almost reach him. I was like, also I'm one of the usals. But yeah, I was like, I don't know if he actually knows who I am. Just let me just maybe when the time is right, he'll know and we'll kind of meet each other and have a proper conversation and everything was kind of just everyone was was was in his business so I thought you know I'd just respected and kind of sit back a bit and wait for the right

timing okay I respect that you don't want to pull him away from what he was doing I know he was on the red carpet you were on the red carpet too he was doing interviews I just thought maybe he he really follows MMA so I would be shocked if he doesn't know you I'm sure it does especially given your background and how well you're doing, I would be absolutely shocked. You've never met him before. You've never talked to him? Not yet, no. What about Joseph Parker? Have you ever cross-passed with him? Yep, yep, Joseph's. Yeah, Joseph's a common where we live in the same city, so I catch up with him or see him at events and things like that. So, and he's nice. We keep in contact, and yeah, man, I'm soon to go fishing with the guy. He's supposed to be a great

fishermen, we're always, well, we're very busy men and where we have lives and then outside of our careers, we have our families. So, you know, soon when that's, because it's coming into summer, it's, you know, that's, I think we're going to bring the boats out and start to go up fishing because we love that here in New Zealand. Just, just, really just a chance to get out on the water and get away from the city. Have you ever trained with him? I haven't trained with Joseph. Okay. He's a big boy. You know, it was funny, like, I think we're, I was probably about 18, 19. I remember seeing him, I was like, hey, man, you're, you're, you know, you're a boxer,

you're about to be this and that. And I'm an, I'm an MMA fighter. I think one day we're going to start, we're going to train with each other. And, you know, we've always kept that same energy with each other and, and the respect that we have between the both of us. I love it, because he's doing incredible things now. He's really turned his career around. I think he should be fighting for the belt next.

I don't know if that's actually going to happen. But the scene out there in Australia and New Zealand is incredible. And you're in New Zealand now too, right? You're in Auckland. So training at city kickboxing still? What is the vibe like with the team? Because there's a moment there where everyone's talking about city kickboxing. And then, as you know, in the sport, it goes up and down.

You're thriving. There's other guys coming through. Izzy's enjoying life now. How would you describe the vibe at the gym now? The vibe is all young energy right now. It's all just young energy coming off the success that a lot of the seniors have had in the past, but then you've got the coaches traveling back and forth because of the contenders series. And then you've also got a few more seniors.

So it's kind of harder to walk in and you're like, oh man, these guys are slowly dropping off. But it's also very good to have the young energy. just to be, to keep you sharp because I've got a young, young fellow in there's from Tahiti who's just sharp as a blade man, and he keeps me honest. So, yeah, it's nice to have that young energy in the gym. Love it. Official prediction, how do you see this playing out on the 27th-28th of September? man i just

i can see myself holding their belt i can see myself holding the bell and it will be in due time for sure in due time and there will be no denying carlos albert because i will ring king one day this time next year your ufc champion this time next year for sure can't wait can't wait to see it play out that way in your favorite

Thank you, Carlos. Appreciate it. Good luck to you. And thanks for doing this so early in the morning over there. Thank you, brother. I always respected. Thank you. Thank you so much.

There he is. Black Jag himself, Carlos Elberg, on some kind of run as of late. He's right now ranked third in the UFC's light heavyweight division. He's on an eight-fight winning streak dating back to February 2022 joint. Third longest win streak in UFC light heavyweight history. He's got eight. Anka-Lyev, nine, Jones, 13. Slowly but surely. He's put it all together. Also holds the highest average strikes landed per minute in UFC light heavyweight history, 6.82 per minute on average. That's not bad. Coming off that win over Jan Behovich, that was back in March, in London. That was in March 22nd, 2025. That was just a few months ago. Prior to that, the winner of Volcano Osdemier, Alonzo Meneff.

Field, Zhang Daun, Ihor Potaria, Nikolai, Negu Marenau, Tafon, and Shkui, Fabio Sharon. I struggled with those last three there. I'm not going to lie. Struggled. It was tough. It's tough. But we do know Dominic Reyes, who has begun to turn things around. And I am looking forward to that fight. That's a great fight for that part of the world. September the 27th slash 28th. that because 28th over in Auckland, actually in Perth and Auckland, but the fight is happening in Perth, 27th here in the United States. So it's going to be, I don't think, by the way, I'm not looking at the tapology page. Let me look at it real quick because you know how this Shanghai card is happening

in the very, very, very early hours of the morning on Saturday? I do not think this one is the same. I think that they're doing it Yeah, they're doing it Sunday morning and the first fight is at 6 p.m. Eastern Time here on Saturday. So that's what they usually do for these Australian slash New Zealand cards because they're used to watching this type of stuff

on a Sunday morning incredibly. All right, let us move along to our last two guests of the day. These two men are going to be going toe to toe to on October 4th, Newark, New Jersey, Prudential Center, King of Violence Belt, BKFC's debut in the great state of New Jersey

we reported yesterday added to that card Frankie Edgar versus Jimmy Rivera pending New Jersey State Athletic Commission approval we suspect it'll be good to go unless something crazy happens but the main event is a spicy one two guys that have had tremendous success as of late in the world of BKFC one Jeremy Stevens one Mike Perry they are both joining us right now to talk about this

main event on October 4th Hello, gentlemen. How are you? Mike? Good to see you. Jeremy, good to see you, Aaron. Mike, is that for me or is that for Jeremy? There he is. Both of. He can have both of them. Both of them. Well, we appreciate you guys doing this. Thank you very much. Mike, I'll start with you. This return for you to BKFC has been talked about for a while. You haven't fought there in a while. All kinds of names were being bandied about. Was this the name at the top of your list? always, was this the one that you wanted to come back to?

I can't say that I really cared. We were definitely talking about some other names. You know, unfortunately, who the fuck is that guy is, you know, not going to do a lot for, like, my credibility maybe. They'll say that I weight bullied him or whatever, but fighters should know, and I know that he's a tough little shit, and I'm in, you know, I got to get his little ass, and I got to hurt him before he tries to hurt me, who hurts who first, bad enough, let's go. Jeremy, you cool with that description, a tough little shit? Is that a tip of the cap? Absolutely. Absolutely. That's what I've, my whole life has been prepared for this moment.

I can't wait. You know, the fact that it's in New Jersey, great, great state, great opponent. It's walking on. Let's go, baby. We'll see you. the King of Violence is, King of the Barbarians is home. Shut up, stupid. It's an easy fight for me. You're so tiny, and I'm going to smash your stupid face in with my bare knuckles, and maybe you've been training for this for your whole life, and just, yeah, now it's your chance to really get hurt, really bad.

I'm going to do it. You'll be all right in a few weeks. Maybe six weeks max getting out of bed. You'll be hurt, you know, still thinking about me. Maybe you'll think about me a year from now. I turn this, this is my dream, bro. You know, I turned this delusion into a reality when I sat back and watched you fight, fight Eddie Alvarez.

I knew I was going to be fighting one of you or both of you for big bags of money. And this is my opportunity, bro. You're in my dream. You had other opponents to take bigger guys. Now the hardest one, 45 or has to come up and step up a notch and knock out a fucking ball. I didn't have other guys to take. I had no other guys to take. You are tough, Jeremy.

You're stupid enough to take it. The other guys wouldn't take it. nobody was taking it bare knuckle nobody wanted to fight me bare knuckle except these guys who are in the company already who want their shot want their fight and they don't get offered to me if they got offered to me i would have said yes i already slept the pound for pound guy i hear you there's no need to scream i hear you that's why we're fighting each other i'm the one who made this happen i'm the one who made this happen i'm the one who made this happen i'm trying to make sure you hear me i hear you i hear you i

I feel the same way. You're like, I'm your bigger brother. I'm just better. But I'm gonna son you. I'm sunning you. I'm gonna son you like you're too small, like you fucked up.

And you didn't want me to have the weight I wanted. And you put the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the,

the, uh, dehydration calls on me. So, so that's fine. You're scared already. You're going to get your bag and you're going to quit like the rest of them. Nobody wanted to do this with me,

bare knuckle. So I will yell at you. because I got to get it through your thick skull. Can I ask about that? You're a mental midget, Mike. You're a mental midget, bro. Your body's strong. Your face is strong.

I'm going to fucking break you. Your mind's not enough for this, buddy. You're obviously not smart enough to know that. Speed and skill. You got the status, dude. Okay. Speed and skill. Okay, cool.

Cool. Mike, can I ask you about that? I saw in another interview. I think with Inside Fighting, you talked about the weight. and the rehydration clause. What weight is this actually happening at, Mike? I cut to 175. I don't know if there's a one pound.

Yeah. Is it 176 or is it championship weight? I'm going to, I'll try to make championship weight. I can't get it out of my head. I'll go all the way to 75 and then I can't rehydrate to 192. So apparently that's a 20% rehydration clause. But we'll see what I go to. I remember UFC days.

went 170 cut blow up to 195 but going to 170 you know 175 my last fight was at 200 and the fight before that was at 185 you know I got a cut weight for the bag and then I get to beat this little ferret up and one out of three of those are professional weights I can't beat up 185 is actually a professional weight what what's a professional weight 175 170 185 right that's actually legit 170 you know okay so let me let me cut to 185 then not 175 then tell the boss man pay me more money I'm not going to 170 you think I'm going to 170 I haven't been 170 and six years more stupid very relaxed we're fighting 175 but cheeks butt cheeks we'll find that 175 it's already it's already done all right well you said we're

170 or 185, his weight class. Can I ask you about this? Jeremy, did you insist on 75 in the rehydration clause? And if so, can you explain why? No, that's what David told me. You know, that's what he would, easy goes, obviously there'd have to be a weight clause. And that's what they put in front of me. We agreed to it.

You know, we wanted more money. If he was allowed more weight to go up, why not? You know, I'm the one hardest hit in 45 or right here going up, fighting scary Perry no one else wants to fight them I'm the one actually doing it so here we are 175 that was the the agreed weight I didn't have any segments like hey okay like I'm obviously given up going up weight classes you know we had a hydration clause I think that's that's that's probably fair my last fight at 200 I couldn't even make 200 I fought my last fight at 200 no one was like oh you got to we got to put a rehydration clause we got to do this we got to do that I just I thought

I was probably 192 in the ring. I weighed in 196.6 because I drank a bunch of water before I stepped on the scale. I did what I tried to do. There's a reason why we're fighting here. You know, the two baddest dudes. I'm a better fighter at a bigger weight. 185 you're fighting the real best. At 175, I'm going to cut a little bit of my legs off or something.

But I'm going to go there and I'm going to hurt you for it. What happened to Mundell? Weren't you supposed to fight him at 85? What's up with that? they never offered me that that was never supposed to happen i was told that there that he is not going to get the fight that's what i told maybe it was me they were really saying i wasn't going to get the fight maybe they want me to smash you first but i don't want to go back to 175 ever again after i destroy your faith 185 is where i want to go but they didn't give me a 185 they were looking

for other names. Jeremy, can I ask you? You had a great win in BKFC in January. You beat Eddie Alvarez. Then you went to UFC. You got the fight at home and now back to BKFC. Was this always the plan? Was the plan always to come back to BKFC after that fight in Iowa?

BKFC is home. I feel like this is my style. I love it. I love it over here in BKFC. I was getting in some boxing, some boxing fights and then coming over to BKFC. fell in love with it you know there's uncertainty with with bkfc i'm in no contract i had an opportunity to go back fight my hometown did that recalculated rerouted and you know i i knew this fight was going to happen when i fought jimmy revera when he fought when he fought eddie that night i kicked

back watched it watch it go down and i've been making it happen ever since you know i said there's a new king of violence where these boys at keep me busy you know i was kept on the sidelines you know and and i've been i've been the one working you know i've i've climbed myself up to this moment And this is my dream. I believe in. Know that I'm the better man in there October 4th. I'm better than him today. I'm always better than him.

I'm just bigger brother. I'm going there and break him. No way. I'm going to teach you something, son. I'm going to show you something that your daddy didn't teach you. Sometimes you got to walk away. Mike, has he done better in BKFC than you expected? We have the graphic up there at 3 and 0 that great win over Eddie Alvarez.

Has he impressed you in BKFC? Jeremy is a good fighter. Jeremy's a little fuck. Excuse my language, but that's what he is. He's just a little, like he's going to be low to the ground, trying to get, I got to target his head, and I'm a sniper. And if he comes in, I'm going to catch him. If he's backing out, I'm going to catch him.

If he tries to stay in, he definitely don't want to stay too close or too long. Then he's going to pop around on the outside. He's going to bounce around, try to time. Little jumps in and out. His little legs probably going to throw. his little body weight in and out. We'll see how fast he moves. But, you know, I can, I'm going to catch him a few different ways.

So I'm going to use my tricks and be sharp, make him run into stuff, cut his face open. Maybe he'll cut my lip, but he ain't going to like the pain when I hit him. And there's nothing he could do. He can hit me as hard as he can. I ain't going to let him. But if he does, I'm going to be just fine. Jeremy can I ask you you seem very calm right now

obviously Mike is fired up you just mentioned that as well but I have seen you did that video and you mentioned Mike you took some shots at him like a rap video

or a sort of disc track what is your issue with Mike and why did you include him in that I don't have any issues with him at all to be personally honest to I think we're two of the back as fucking scariest dude in blood combat sports history i happen to be a little bit lighter he's

a little bit bigger but this is this is what delusions into reality is about you know stuff like this fighting an opponent scary opponent like like mike perry that's what gets me out of bed these days you know that's that's what excites me that's what the fans want that's what you're gonna get you're getting too fucking monstrous jaw breaking orbital breaking badass dudes you know uh that's what you're getting you know you guys you guys are blessed october 4th this is one hell of an opportunity one hell of a fight fight fight for the ages and it's going to be my third sold-out arena this year baby mike did you see that song what'd you think bro honestly no i heard like i heard like a little clip of it i think it was pretty bad rap but sure the 40-year-old dude want to start rapping

since he's the size of a small child anyways he might as well do what children do and just keep rapping i used to rap it was fun prove it let's hear it you want to hear it get in the studio see what you got i thought you meant like right now like some freestyle east coast west coast yeah my my studio is gonna be the squared circle where i'm gonna use your face to paint the floor october four in north new jersey perry you're going face down ass up cheeks clapping play boy my night no way no way Fuck you.

I'm going to stick my fucking fist down your throat and face fuck you. How about that? Oh, geez. Yeah, I'm going to plant these fucking slugs in your skull. Keep trying to fucking bully me. There you're not. There you're not. Watch, dude.

You get wobbled up. You get wobbled up, buddy. You got beat by the YouTuber jab. Right hand left till maybe. Simple. I move like that. I trip sometimes just walking across my long-ass floor in my long-ass house. I just kind of go with the step like that.

I go with the flow, and I'll be moving and grooving. Remember Gumbi? I could be like Gumbi, but Gumbi was like a superhero. That motherfucker lean over and cock back and catch you. Oh, you don't rap battle, you dance battle, huh? We'll see. Yeah, we're both going to dance for the owners, buddy, and you're going to be twerking. I'm in no contract, bro.

You could have got this fade in UFC and you know it. I came over here I'm in no contract you're welcome when was that nobody offered me nothing like that because I'm in contract

stupid what does that mean Jeremy what does that mean is this again a one fight deal for you in BKFC allegedly wow

you're going fight to fight no because he he gambling a little bit right he's trying to think that if he could win it they're going to hold him the bad

but that I've been doing this I've been in I've been in no contract for a couple years now Luke Rockhole was big and you small and I'm

Hey you got you got a daddy You got a dance for daddy I don't I'm just right I told you who's fighting me Daddy Badest dude You already calling me daddy buddy

Coming over here to BKFC This is my sport Come on son Come on son My beard man I'm in no contract bro I'm just a way more fire Than yours

Your little moto cross classes bitch go ride a dirt bike can go camping or something you little woodsy redneck fuck Mike can I get your response to that that interaction between you and Connor where you said to dance for the owner and all that stuff what did you uh what did you make

cheese clapping cheeks had a clap I'm gonna dance for my bag buddy I'm gonna dance for my back yeah your cheeks gonna be clapping against my knucks your cheeks clapping against my knucks yeah I had to say it again to make sure you knew what time it was.

Catch that shit in slow motion. I'm going to make his face ripple. Mike, we had David Feldman on the show last week, and he said that he was trying to make the Darren Till fight, and it didn't come to fruition. And then Darren came on to respond, what do you make of this situation with Darren? Why did it all fall apart?

Darren's going to fight Luke with gloves on, instead of do this. And fight me with Barry. knuckles because it's fucking ferocious i'll be cursing i'm sorry i don't know what y'all want me to do i just i think cursing and bare knuckle kind of go hand in hand but you can i'm still classy with it i got my own tequila coming out that when you drink it you got to put your pinky up and shit because it's so beautiful platinum tequila to go to tequila platinum dot com you know shout out to my sponsors shout out to my people shout out to area hawani putting us on shout out to bear

knuckle for putting this event together you know shout out to my opponent who's crazy little guy gonna do this shit and then he's gonna try to hurt me and i'm gonna fucking knock his teeth out hey this is too hot for tv shit bro this is what bear knuckle and the baddest dude in combat sports and blood sport is you know these guys putting on fucking gloves we're over here putting on up our fucking knuckles knocking orbitals knocking jaws snapping bras and breaking jaws i still want to beat people with the gloves on i still want to beat them with the gloves on too I don't know why But I do like that about bare knuckle

Where it's like You motherfuckers don't want to do that shit with me With no gloves on We get real ugly And I'm still pretty So motherfuckers be like damn He do bare knuckle fighting Why he's so good looking

Because I'm good at it Jeremy Historically you've been 145, 155 He's 170, 185 Are you worried about the size difference? I thought it's 65 as well. Yeah.

No, not at all. Not when it comes to bare knuckle, not at all. And as far as the, the rehydration clause is concerned, was that your idea or was that Feldman or BKFC's idea? I told you in the beginning, you asked me, I told you was Feldman's idea. Oh, you obviously said there'd have to be simulations on that, and that's what they came up with. We agreed to it. What kind of bullshit is that? there has to be

the state doesn't it's not have to be it don't have to be it's bullshit you scared that's what they call back and told me they call back and said jeremy's terrified everybody's ducking you bro you're scary perry ain't nobody's fucking scared hell yeah who wouldn't be fucking scared to fight

Mike fucking Perry the guy's gonna fucking go go for your head and try to kill you that's why I wake up every day bro I've been bullied my whole life having to deal with motherfuckers like you bro until they get cracked in the fucking jaw and then they just stop fucking breathing you know it's a little heathen that stands fucking strong bro this is my night october fourth you're in my fucking you're the you're the little fucking bully guy you're like oh everybody's so much taller than me you know the episode of

south park where they talk about the average size and then they they they lowered the average size of mail so everybody stopped like riot the only south park episode i watch is where's my fucking money where's my money just to be clear sir we where's we where's my fucking money. The reason I asked you that was I know you said the the weight was Feldman's idea. I didn't know about the rehydration clause because I had not heard of that in BKFC.

Yeah, I don't know what it is. That's what it is. Professional we're fighting. I don't know what else to say about it. You have to ask the boss man himself. Well, BKFC is boxing. BKFC is boxing. Yeah, and rehydration clause. Rehydration clauses. It's a boxing

thing. happen more in boxing than an MMA, as you guys know, right? This is probably the first time you've had to deal with this, Mike. Is that accurate? In my career in life, yeah. Are you worried about that? No, I'm trying to time it to where

I be, fucking, right on 192, and we see what time a day do I have to weigh in before I get in the ring and make sure that I'm under 192 before we go fight. Oh, I can't drink. You'll whip your ass right now. I'll whip your ass right now. At whatever way. I'll whip your ass right now. You got to complain and complain to the boss. Your daddy. Go dance for daddy. Tell you. That's not how the business works. I have to come in on a way because you agreed and you begged and asked that I have a 20% clause. You and your management asked for this. It doesn't have to be. And you say you're what my.

ass right now. It's easy to say that shit while you're over here, bud you're fucking right here. Oh, is it the other way? It's the other way. It's the other way. Fucking this way.

So it's easier. Oh, I'll whip your ass right now. Bullshit, bitch, I got to come in at wait. I can't come in at 195 and just, oh, and make sure I'm 195 the day away ends and then I can't go over 192. exactly

duck dip dodging and ducking everybody at 185 I want to get the back dodging and everybody at 185 I'm not the same fighter if you came into the gym right now at 185 if you came into the gym right now and sparred me

because that's where I'm at the boxing gym if you came in and sparred me right now then I would fucking throw you on the ground so easy so many times I would punch you in your head and you would quit with gloves on without gloves on

It doesn't matter. But because I'm going to cut to $1.75, you think that it's going to deplete me a little bit and give you a shot? Well, I got more than just one shot for you, buddy. I got a whole bunch of bags full of shots, and I'm sending them right down the vision, tunnel vision. Jeremy, can I ask, how do you see it playing out? What's your official prediction? Tim Leakin, face down ass up, she's clapping, knocking him to fuck

out. That or I split him open. I'm going to land a lot of damage on Perry, dude. He's there for the taken. He's there for the taking. He's been unbelievable in BKFC. He thinks he's just going to bully me, weight bully me, you know, scare me, this and that. You know, like, that's, you know, I've already heard his game plan. I already

know what he's going to try to do. I already talked about that. I already talked about that, Jeremy. I said that people are going to say that, but you're a little savage guy who's going to try to sneak some shit in there you're going to try to move you're going to be a smart fighter you've been fighting your whole life it is dangerous but I know

something that you don't which is what what I'm going to do to him what are you going to do give us your prediction Mike I'm going to drive my knuckles to his temples I'm going to split his little nasal cavity right here

I'm going to split his chin. I'm going to put his teeth through his gums. And then I'm going to cut angles. I'm going to hit his body. I'm going to punch him in the collarbone. I'm going to punch him in the throat. I'm going to hit him in the temple with my knuckle like this. And I'm going to put my finger knuckle, not my fingernail, not my finger, but I'm going to, like, low my fist.

And this knuckle is going to go right in. your eyeballs it's going to hurt it doesn't seem like Jeremy is bothered by any of them that's what that's my job if I can feel pain I'm still in the fucking game maybe

if I can feel pain he doesn't he knows he also said he knows you're going to quit you little guy you're going to quit you ain't like me Jeremy I son you already I'm your big bro already

I'm your big brother just because you've been here longer you ain't done it as good the hardest I'm already doing it better has to come up the hardest hitting 45 has to come up well this has been tremendous

people know me by my name Mike Perry stop I've been snapping brawz and breaking jolson's 806 I can't wait for this I've been wanting to beat up somebody from 1986 I just feel like you those

guys with those like y'all either got tramp stands or like a belly tattoo and and like maybe you be on the boat and shit that's why you got those glasses on you you'll go out to the lake on the boat have a a bush light and shit get to a fight with the people or tell some kids shut up I remember when I was 12th I'm talking to your

group you're a bully I remember when I was 12 because you're little and you're short and you're small and everybody told you how small you were your whole life and you're like, oh, yeah, look how fucking tough I am. It's what Jeremy Stevens does. You guys have a press conference. Look how cool I am, guys. There's a press conference on Thursday.

Both of you will be there, right, in New Jersey? Yes, sir. Yeah. Okay. Well, we look forward to that. Any final words for him before you see him, Mike? I see you soon, boy. Jeremy, anything you want to say to Mike before you see him?

Do some. I'll see him, bro. It's going to be great. Tune in, maybe. There it is. October 4th, New York, New Jersey, BKFC, their debut in the great state of New Jersey. Thank you guys. Appreciate it, and good luck to you both.

Thank you so much. Thanks, Harold. Appreciate it. Thank you, everybody. Let me, I fight October 4th. Later, bye. I'm just trying to have good time with stuff. I'm going to punch this little guy.

We'll punch him. Thanks. Bye. There they are. Wow. October 4th. That is going to be quite the scene in New Jersey. And again, if you're worried, not going head to head, I'm told, with the UFC pay-per-view. Now, the main card will go head to head with the prelims. The main card will go ahead to head with the prelims, but main card not going ahead-to-head with UFC main card.

That's the biggest concern. And they're putting together a nice card. This is one of their big ones. It's not a knuckle mania, but it seems like every, I don't know, six or so months they put together a big one, Ben Rothwell, usually appears on these cards. Perry and Ben had some sort of thing recently as well. So let's see. They've got a press conference on Thursday. I'm sure that's going to be very interesting.

I don't think Connor McGregor will be there, but I would imagine he will be there on Fight Week. I saw him tweet about the Frankie Edgar fight as well. He seems excited about that. All of his old friends. fighting under the BKFC umbrella. Anyone have any issues with Frankie fighting? Anyone really bothered by it? I saw a lot of people very bothered by it.

Don't love it. Yeah. Don't love it. Notcouts the end. Considering the way the career ended in the UFC at the age that he is, don't love it. Look, if this is his way of making a living, if this is the way to provide for his family, who am I to tell him not to? God bless.

Hopefully he does it safely. there's not a thing for Frankie Edgar to prove in the fight game. I don't think this adds anything to his legacy or his resume and would prefer not to see it. But again, if this is the decision that he's making, he feels good, feels like this is the path for him and to provide, who am I to say? Yeah, you know, the thing is he's had the knockouts,

he's had the layoff. Darren Till was on the show a couple weeks soon, and he's like, this is the place where, you know, older fighters go. and I think Feldman and Company are trying to move away from that this sort of pulls

them back in that direction right? Yeah, certainly but thankfully they have things like Jeremy Stevens and Mike Perry which is fantastic

which is a great fight a relevant fight They were magic together that was fantastic Mike's internet chopping up I know that was the only part

I don't know I made it funnier it better I was dying inside we do those face to faces and his internet was great at the beginning Jeremy's, I mean, as far as internet connection goes,

Jeremy wins, no doubt. Those face-to-faces crumble if one person has bad. We had one, I think, was it with Chris Wade back in the day? Who was it, Chris Wade and someone? Yeah. Fuck. Who was it? PFL, Chris Wade and someone.

Who was his rhymes? James, too? Yeah, maybe James. Was it Bubba? Who was it? Oh, Bubba Jenkins? I don't know. Anyway.

We had got into it. But we broke through. We broke through the noise there. I'm looking for it. That's going to be a great day. October 3rd, by the way, is the Usmander Magamato v. Paul Hughes fight, which I think is the best PFL card of the year. Chris Wade. Brennan Locknardt. Oh, yeah, Brendan. Good one. That was a good one. That was a good one.

And Brennan's internet wasn't good, and I think Chris's was, and so it made it a little bit. Honestly, I'm disappointed that UFC 320 is the same night as that. I know. In the Rock. I would have been in the Prudential Center. And that would have made me and Rick three for three on going to Jeremy Stevens fight. Oh, yes. in 2025, right? You went to Philly against Eddie.

Yep, and then we were in Des Moines, and then we could add this one, but unfortunately, I mean, we could still go. We can still go. That's the main event. We'd have to ride back here. I mean, you would just miss, like, you'd probably miss, like,

the first two pay-per-view fights. If it goes to 10. You holding it down for us, Frankie? We'll have to. Maybe I'll be in here. All right. Is that? What was that?

BFL? That was weird. No, PFL's the night before. FFL is October. You've got to keep the Stevenson alive. That was a weird laugh. Yeah, the Stevenson. It was like long, drawn out.

Incephir. Like evil, almost sinister. All right, we have a second show to do in about an hour. So 357 hardout. We do have the DeZone program. Ben Davison going to join us. Dan Kenobio of Inside Boxing Live and Mick Conlon, one of the all-time greats from the Emerald Isle.

So that is at 5 Eastern on. the DeZone YouTube and also on the DeZone app. This is my last show for two weeks. I will be back in two weeks time. I'll be back on September 2nd, but we're not done as far as programming is concerned. On this channel, we do have a ton, obviously, on Oncrown.com, that's not stopping on this channel. We've got the boys in the back tomorrow. We've got the crack on Thursday. 415, SUP-BITB to leave them a voicemail. What are we talking about tomorrow, boys? What do we got? What do we got? we'll look a little more at USC 319 still some things to cover off and then look ahead to this weekend's card and what is the it's a good card yeah top two three fights very good uh what is the pound for pound

best uh kung fu movies hmm okay favorite kung fu movies i thought you would do like favorite chinese dish you thought about it but too easy too easy are we getting a fight fees china no not enough time that would have been a great one would have been a great one we'll get out of opportunities. We'll do it one. Next one will be... I mean, you're in a pretty damn good city for that. What do you even pick?

Number one Chinese restaurant in New York City. Rick, what do you got? I'm partial to Shanghai-nees food. I was going to say, we really fucked up because we would have gotten Shanghai. Oh my God, this is even better. Yeah, it couldn't happen. Next time.

Number one, Shanghai... Shanghaiese restaurant in New York City. The one that you go to, but the one in Flushing. Oh, the one here? Yeah. There's another one? like it might it might not be the main one but the one that i believe it actually is the main one but it's in flushing um and they make the rice cakes that i love give us uh give us a give us a name what

is the name what is the name it's uh show long bow i believe yeah that's the dumpling spot chow long bow yeah dumpling spot right soup dumplings rice cakes best of shanghani's food love it there it is all right uh disown show coming up in an hour i'm going away for two weeks. It's been a nice run. It's been a tremendous summer for the show, the channel, the programming, the site. But sometimes you do have to take a bit of a break. So I hope you guys don't miss me too much. Well, you still have me in an hour talking all things. Boxing. You get my music prank. We are good to go. This is actually a little later than it was planned. Sorry. What a day. What a day.

What, did anything happen? Anything else in the world of MMA? Man, Mike Perry had some lines there. Jeremy Stevens had some lines too? Jeremy Stevens was calm, cool, and collected. And being, like, calmed out butt cheeks, and they're all. Yo, Jeremy Stevens, calm, cool, and collected. Butt cheeks?

I haven't heard butt cheeks in a while, by the way. He caught me off guard. Dana White making a Zoof a boxing announcement? Has that come through yet? No. No. I think that'll be the season. Oh, yeah.

It's usually like at around like 6.30, right? My guess is they got Zufa boxing t-shirts on the merch store. Oh, yeah. Is there a Zufaboxing store.com? Not not yet. It'll probably be an offshoot of the UFC store. Yeah, that makes sense. It makes sense.

Wow. Hulu Cesar Chavez Jr. deported from the U.S. immediately jailed in Mexico. Fuck. That's not great. Oh, no, it's not great. It's been a tough summer for JCC Jr., I would say. That's it.

Yeah, I think so. I'd say so. Ported and jail is pretty bad. Any PFL talk on tomorrow's show? Oh, there'll be some PFL talk. Fabian Edwards, Dalton Rosta. Any contender series talk? You're doing the rare Wednesday after a Tuesday, DWCS.

Yeah, I'm expecting a lot of finishes tonight, a lot of big favorites. Dana gave the speech last week. Yeah. We'll get some finishes. I'll be tapped in. All right. Well, thank you very much all our guests today. Thank you to Lorne Murphy, Dylan Dennis.

Carlos Alberg, Mike Perry, Jeremy Stevens. Thanks to you, thanks to them. Back on Wednesday, same time, please, this is a piece about here.