The Ariel Helwani Show - Is Merab Dvalishvili having the best year in MMA history? Weidman-Silva 3 boxing match announced, UFC Vancouver preview, more | The Boys in the Back
Episode Date: October 16, 2025The Boys in the Back kick off the show by reacting to Most Valuable Promotions announcing Chris Weidman and Anderson Silva will box on the Jake Paul vs. 'Tank' Davis undercard (01:11).Then, they discu...ss Merab Dvalishvili's 2025 run and whether, with a dominant victory in December, it will be the best year a fighter's ever had (08:29).After previewing UFC Vancouver (25:54), the Boys make picks (1:05:07), deliver their top 12-month runs in MMA (1:14:08), listen to voicemails (1:44:49), and answer your Super Chats (2:22:20).
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to your, Frank. We got a big show today. Pound for pound. Best 12-month runs in MMA history. We'll talk
about that in a little bit. U.S. Vancouver preview. But we got some news off the top here.
We just found out on the Jervante Davis, Jake Paul Card happening next to the A-side. Okay, I like
it. What was the hashtag? Jank Tank. Used by MVP. And now,
by MVP promotions, we will be getting
the trilogy, the
third matchup in
the rivalry, Chris Wideman taking
on Anderson Silva, a
six-round heavyweight boutter.
It will be opening up the main card on Netflix.
Anderson Silva,
50 years old, going up against Chris
Weidman at 41.
Weidman 2-0 so far in the
trilogy.
Don't hate it, don't love it.
Like, okay with it?
Like Anderson Silva and Chris Widman have, you know, a good, I hesitate to call it a rivalry because of like the way the fights have gone, right?
Like Anderson kind of playing around in the Chris Widman Springs, one of the biggest upsets in MMA history.
And then like the unfulfilling injury that happened in the second one, I guess it is a rivalry, but I do feel like these guys kind of like each other and respect each other.
And we've seen in recent years, it's much more amicable and cordial than it is.
that of rivals, but I don't hate it.
Ultimately, I feel the same way about this
that I feel about a lot of the fights like this
that are made, which is if they're two MMA fighters,
I'd just rather see them fight MMA.
Like, even at this advanced age,
I'd just rather watch MMA.
Yeah, it's just sort of unfortunate.
Like, you don't really want to see a trilogy,
the third fight go from MMA, MMA,
and now what, 12 years, 11 years later,
since the last one, now we get it in boxing.
I'm kind of with you.
It's just like, I don't, I don't hate it.
Yeah.
I'll have it on, but it's, I'm not counting down the days till it.
Yeah, and that's fine.
I think that's okay for it to occupy that space.
And it will potentially bring in some MMA fans to the Jake Paul versus Tank Davis card.
I imagine that there's quite a few MMA fans that are tuning in any way.
Jake seems to attract an MMA audience a lot of times when he's fighting.
but it's at least something of note
it's at least something of interest
it spices things up a little more
than like a traditional boxing undercard
probably would have right
at least it's it's names that we know
and care for and recognize
but the fight itself like as
as we both kind of said
I'll take it or leave it
it's not anything I was clamoring for
uh Jake Paul and Tank Davis
obviously in the main event
this will kick off the main card
there's also Ellie Scott named
there's Alicia Baumgardner
Sharnika Johnson is also on the card
he typically stacks these cards
with very talented
women's bouts as well.
So I'm sure people will tune in.
I'm sure on Netflix with the main event being the circus show that it is,
I'm positive that people will tune in.
And, you know, it's a boxing match that's happening.
And who knows?
I mean, we saw in the Nate Diaz, Jorge Mazvedol example,
that was one that everybody was like,
I'd rather watch it at MMA.
And then it turned out to be actually like a pretty damn good boxing match.
And so, you know, the ceiling for this is,
It's not like astronomical.
It's not through the roof.
It's not going to blow the doors off the arena or the roof off the arena.
But it has the potential to at least be semi-decent.
And the floor is kind of what the floor is.
It's like, you know, we know that these two guys are in advanced age, certainly Anderson Silva up there in years.
It could be potentially pretty bad.
But at the end of the day, hopefully because it's boxing, like nobody's getting hurt too bad in terms of, you know, what we saw in the second fight between Chris and Anderson, I would never want.
something like that to kind of be seen or replicated again.
So we get what we get.
Could we potentially see Chris Wyden
earn a fight against Jake Paul if he beats Anderson Silva?
I don't think so.
I don't think so either.
I think Jake has graduated from those type of fights.
I mean, he's fighting, you know, look,
I've made my position on the fight between Tank and Jake pretty clear.
I've made my stance on who I think is going to win pretty clear.
But he's a – Tank is a legitimate boxer.
He is extremely outsized in this scenario.
He is giving up a lot of size and height and reach.
But he is a top tier boxer.
There is no doubt about that.
He's one of the top boxers in the world right now.
And so I think Jake has graduated to those type of fights as opposed to an MMA fighter who is tough, but not necessarily a trained boxer like Chris Wybeman would be.
You mentioned the Jorge Mazzvedal Nate Diaz fight.
Yeah.
That fight now in the news again as well.
Jorge Mosvedol has been awarded $5.3 million in an arbitration case against Fanmeo after he claims that he was only ever paid his $1 million plus $150,000 advance before the fight in a fight that he was supposed to get $6 million from.
Yeah. And I'm happy for him. Like get your money. Like if you, if, you know, I think we all had a feeling that,
this you know fight was like that they were making an exorbitant amount of money to to be able
to put this on and the fact that Nate Diaz was showing up for press conferences and things like
that the bag had to be fat and so I'm happy that they're being held to account that if they
promised these guys a certain amount of money that they're going to have to pay it out because
in the reporting the article that I read was from MMAfighting.com in that reporting it says that
Nate Diaz is also en route to getting somewhere in the range of $6 million as well.
It says that a separate Arbor trader overseeing the case also awarded Diaz a $6 million
award along with an additional $500,000 penalty against Fanmeo founder Solomon Engel,
who was found personally liable as well as attorney fees and interest.
But prior to that, it says Diaz specifically singled out Engel and allegedly saying he allegedly
agreed him to pay him a sum of $10 million for the fight against Mosvedal and the lawsuit
alleges that Fanmeo agreed to pay Diaz
$1 million up front with an additional $9 million
payment due after the fight.
Yeah. And so if he gets six of the 10,
I mean, still pretty good payday,
but I'd like to see him held accountable
for the entire sum, if I'm being honest.
Yeah, bad day to be Solomon Engel.
Yeah.
You got to pay the fighters
that you agreed to pay him.
When you put it that way, it's quite humorous.
But I wonder what his liquid cash looks like.
I wonder what his assets look like.
It did have the air of feeling like this was not necessarily something that was going to sell super well on pay-per-view.
And we contrast that to Weidman and Silva, which is not for purchase, right?
This is going to be for free with subscription on Netflix, and it seems a lot more palatable and viable than when it was previously a pay-per-view.
Yeah, I also imagine that Chris Weidman and Anderson-Silva will have never been getting their paychecks.
I think they will be paid.
I don't know if it will be in the range of $10 million.
I think it's quite in that range, but I imagine they'll get their money from MVP. I have no worries about that. All right, that's the news and the notes of the day. Marad de Valshvili earlier this week, actually sitting right there, got his fight announcement for UFC 323. He will be in a rematch against Piotr-Yon headlining in Las Vegas to close out the ESPN pay-per-view era, which led us to kind of start thinking about if Marad de Valshvili wins this fight, he will be in.
have gone 4 and 0 in the calendar year of 2025, will that make it the best year for a mixed
martial artist?
Best calendar year.
And we should spoil a little bit later.
We're going to be doing our pound for pound is going to be the best 12 month stretch for
any individual fighter, not necessarily calendar year, but let's call it June 05 to June
06.
We're going to do what is the best 12 month?
stretch for any fighter.
12-month run.
This has to be the calendar.
And now...
2025, 2007.
Yeah.
Just singular year is Maratha Velasvili with a win over Pejotrion, is that the best calendar year
in MMA history?
Yeah.
In doing the research for the pound for pound, I obviously looked up some of the calendar
years and I just don't see anything that touches it.
Like there have been some fantastic ones.
Don't get me wrong.
There have been some great ones.
But four title defenses.
And I would put up against it if somebody won a title and then defended three times, I'd consider that relatively equal, right?
It doesn't necessarily have to be a defense capturing a title to me kind of counts, championship victories.
But for championship victories, all four being title defenses for Marab, to me, I think, is the best year from a fight perspective in MMA history.
If he can, now, I'm making an assumption here in terms of how that fight with Piotr-Yon goes.
If he can do it, it will be the best year.
You also have to include not only is he getting four title defenses if he's able to come out victorious in December.
That obviously isn't if anything can happen in MMA.
He said it himself.
This is only speaking in the hypothetical case of him winning in December.
You also have to account for who he's going up against.
He would have handed Umar Nirmagamatov, his first loss of his professional MMA career.
Sean O'Malley in a rematch gets it done there against Sean O'Malley in his youth, in his prime.
This is not an aged out O'Malley, a veteran or anything like that.
Corey Sandhagen, also in his prime.
Top five bantamweight has only been fighting killers for the last five, six years in the division,
only loses to the best of the best, and then potentially Piotr Ian,
who some consider to be the best bannam weight in the world, not name Marev de Valsh Wheatley.
Yeah, and I've been a longstanding, I've been stubborn in saying that I think the lightweight division is the best,
UFC's best and has always been the UFC's best. All the talk for the last three years that I've
been hearing is that bantamweight is the best division in the UFC, maybe the best division in
all of the sport. And so if that were to be true, this man has reined over and dominated that
division for this entire calendar year. And you laid out the case exactly why in terms of the
strength of opposition that he's faced, I would be hard pressed to find a better resume over
the course of a calendar year. Some other ones that kind of stick out to you.
John Jones, 2011, three title wins, goes four and O'O across that year.
Yep.
Shogun in 05, 5 and O'O with the Grand Prix Pride victory.
Usman in 2021, three title defenses.
DJ, 2013, three title defenses.
2006, Chuck Liddell, three title defenses.
No one has gotten that four title defenses number, though.
And to me, that's just the separator.
It's a massive separator because it's one of the hardest things to do, right?
to continue to get yourself ready for the next challenger.
But not only that, most champions don't have this level of activity.
There's a reason why we have not seen this specific accomplishment done.
And that's because typically it takes longer to find rightful challengers.
It takes longer to kind of like establish this is the number one contender.
This is the next person you need to fight.
For two, when you're the champion, you can kind of like step off the gas pedal a little bit.
right you can say like okay i need six months to train let me get my next assignment and then i'm
going to fight and then you fight two maybe three times per year rob is like i just fought
put me on the next card and he's unlike anybody else in that regard now there have been
champions before like israela sonya comes to mind alice perera who have been super active
super busy but to get up four times for title defenses in a single year is is a singular accomplishment
and and rob is is an absolute like i have no doubt that he can do this
Now, will he ultimately?
That's a different question.
And we can kind of preview that fight in two months from now when it's drawing closer.
But is Marab capable of this?
There is no – if anybody is capable of this, it's Marab.
What's crazy is that we say two months, it's like six weeks?
Six weeks, yeah, whatever it is.
Way shorter.
We're already halfway through October.
Like, yeah, when he was here on Monday, like, I was just like, oh, man.
So, like, you just fought like nine days ago and you already have another championship fight in like six weeks.
He's just like, yeah, yeah.
You're a psycho, man. You are crazy. Yeah, man. I think a lot of the research that we did, and we'll get into it later with the pound for pound. Some people have had unbelievable 12-month. I mean, if you extend to like 13, 14, 15-month, like unbelievable stretches. But man, it really has to line up perfectly, and it did for Marab. winning the title in September. He gets his first defense in January, and then he's able to slate one in June, September, and December. Like, it's almost like luck of the draw a little bit.
You have to line it up perfectly, and I love that he's capitalizing on this opportunity.
Like, it's sort of like in tennis or golf when you see a guy win, you know, the first two majors
of the year and people start talking about the grand slam, the grand slam, the grand slam, like Novak Djokovic,
for example, won the first three slams in 2021. He gets to the fourth one, makes it all the way
to the final. And then like the pressure is there and he crumbles under the pressure isn't able to get
it done. The fact that Marab knows he has this opportunity at hand to get four title defenses
in a year and he's capitalizing on it is incredible to see. It's fantastic for the sport,
in my opinion. Yeah, and it's the type of thing that's like a factoid you can always throw out
and will endear him with fans. It will definitely endear him with the UFC. We've recently
heard Dana White kind of say, you know, I was not like the biggest fan of Marab to start and
now I've come around. Like, you start to come around when a guy is the one who, hey, we have
no pay-per-view headliner in December. Who can we call? First name up is Marob de Valle's
really, right? Like there was a, there was a moment the last year before that, where
was like, we need a headliner Alex Pereira, like instant, instant call, like the bat signal
went up and the, and the red phone rang.
Now it feels like Marab's that guy, right?
It feels like, hey, I'm willing to fight anytime, anywhere, any place, doesn't matter.
I've already beat Jan.
So what?
He's the number one contender, next man up.
Umar Nirmagamadov undefeated.
So what?
Next man up.
Corey Sanhagan has, you know, been a guy who's like traveled through this division, head ups,
had downs, whatever.
I'll take him on.
He's the next man up.
I'll take them on. There is nobody that he would not face. I just wonder, like, is he turning
through challengers almost too quickly at a certain point? Knocking off four in the calendar year,
like how many more guys can you really line up for next year? Well, it's funny that you say that.
Amon Zahabhi was actually at the press conference talking about how, like, yeah, he's sort of
on the back end of the rankings right now, like in that top 10 zone. But like, the one over
Chito and then like maybe one more with the way that Marab is working through these guys, it's
beneficial to this. Like we saw Steve Ursaid get that title shot.
uh in may of 2024 sort of circumstantially and it's just like oh he's the hottest guy right now so
like let's throw him in there and and give him the opportunity like there is a world where like a guy
like that i i would have to think winner of umar versus mario bautista will probably get it uh after this
but yeah and i mean you hear uh cheeto verro with one win chirping that like he's he's gonna be next
for uh marob de vallisvili we've reached that point like we're i i don't even think we're that
far away from the Kai Asakura, pull somebody from another promotion, give him a title shot
in the debut territory when it comes to Marab. Because you look at, like, you look at the top of
the division, it's, this is according to the USC rankings, Marab champion, O'Malley, two wins.
Umar and Armaghamedov win over. Piotr Yan win over and we'll see what happens in December.
Corey Sandhagan win over. Song Yadong, I don't think Marob has ever fought Song Yadong.
No. So that would be a fresh opponent. Davis and Figaro has not.
Did he fight Cheeto?
No.
Okay, Cheeto, another name, Mario Batista, Amin Zahdi.
So after you crack the top five, you are getting into like names that he has not fought against yet.
And so it's going to be somebody from further down the list.
And so maybe it's, it is a name like in Amin Zahabia, Mario Batista.
Cheeto feels a little bit further away from it.
Figgi, I guess you could kind of start to make the case.
But we're going to start having to dig really deep to find these challengers from Rob DeValishvili.
They're not going to be top five guys anymore.
I know he's on a 14-fight win street, but the run-up.
up to the title and after was Marlon Marius, Joseato, Piotr Yon, Sehudo, O'Malley, Umar, O'Malley, San
Hagan, Jan.
This resume is stupid, man.
It's really dumb.
It really is quite stupid.
Yeah, I just, I think I can say definitively, like, that this would be the best calendar
year if he's able to pull this off.
There's been some incredible ones, and we should know, right?
Like, when you're talking about what people have done and the accomplishments and things like
that, we, the most recent one that comes to mind is the year that Alex Pereer had, where
he headlined UFC 300, UFC 303, the level of star power and business and things that he was able to do in that calendar year is certainly more significant, right, than what Marab's able to do this year.
But when we're talking just pure resume accolades, wins, losses, to me, this is going to be it if he can get it done.
And we'll get into those 12-month runs a little bit later in the program.
Do you think he's doing this because he turns 35 in January and we know the curse of being 35.
at, what is it, lightweight and under?
Yeah, I think it's even welterweight.
Yeah, welterweight and under, yeah.
So I think, I think, does he feel the time creeping in?
It's that popular meme right now with the rabbit pointing to the clock.
Yeah, well, that is a popular meme right now.
No, I think he's just bored.
I think he's one of those guys that needs to fight, and if he's not fighting, he's probably
bored.
I honestly think, yeah, there could be boredom, but, like, I think he's just capitalizing on
his talent and skill, and he knows that with the way that he talks,
about how, like, I could get beat any day.
Like, anyone can beat anyone in mixed martial arts.
Like, I understand that, like, anything can happen.
I'm going to keep training to try and keep getting better and better.
I think he knows that there's only a window of time that he's going to be the best in the world at this division.
Like, Father time comes for everyone, and he's just capitalizing on it.
It would make sense to do that, right?
You want to get this.
While you're in your prime, you want to fight as much as possible.
The reality, though, and the reason why we don't really see this that frequently is there's also the economic aspect of this, right?
you want to make sure that you're fighting opponents that will sell on quote unquote pay-per-view
or maybe in this next era that will bring you a bigger bonus for being able to beat them
because it's going to be a higher watch number event on Paramount.
I don't know what that kind of like pay structure is going to look like and whether that's
going to vary for the champions from event to event.
But you do want to kind of maximize your earning potential.
And I think that that's something I mentioned Israel to Sanja earlier.
I think Alex Pereira is definitely somebody who has thought about this.
when you're when you're in this part of your career you actually should be probably fighting more not less right because you want to make the most possible money you want to get the most possible eyeballs you want to cement your legacy in the most impressive way and maraub is doing that i do wonder as i said though like all of a sudden if we're looking at mario batista or amends a hobby versus marab devalishvili that feels more like a co-man event right you start to you start to enter a territory where like is your opponent going to
to have enough name value that they can headline a paper view alongside you, or all of a sudden
because of what you've been able to do, because of the names you've been able to clear out,
are you actually like almost relegating yourself to a second to a co-man status?
Can I just throw out something crazy?
Just an idea that I had.
UFC 323 taking place December?
Yep.
Co-main.
Yep.
Alessandra Pantoja versus Josh Van.
Main event, Maradova Ler, versus Pietrean.
Both of them becoming long-reigning champions.
Any world, Pantosia wins. Marab wins.
Pantosia jumps up to 135 and they fight each other.
There's definitely a world.
I do not want to see it at all.
I think Mara...
You want to see the long raining.
I want to see them both to just continue to rain.
I don't think it makes it any more...
Like, if...
Let's say Pantosia...
I'm assuming that you're saying Pantosia comes up, right?
As opposed to Marab potentially...
I don't know if Marab could even make $1.25.
I think with the way that he talked on Hwani show about how hard weight cuts are.
I don't think he's going to $125.
If Pantosha-ask.
Yeah, God, he needed some help there.
If Pantosia were to come up and lose to Marab and then go back down, I don't think it helps.
I don't think it helps the status, the legendary status that he's achieving, the legacy, the reign that he's putting together at flywood, especially when you're kind of starting to like at least enter striking range of Demetrius Johnson, right?
You want to at least kind of like be somewhere in the neighborhood of and be in the territory of.
I know it's crazy.
Shouting.
Yeah.
DJ!
he's at the end of the block you want to continue that as opposed to kind of like halting that momentum
also just quite frankly like stylistically i don't think that's a great fight for pantosia i just think
marab's going to be too big and the style is going to be too hard to deal with for him i would much
rather see them remain apart but there is a reality as i kind of like made the case for myself
that feels like a main event whereas amends a hobby mario batista even davis and figurado i'm starting
And that feels like co-man territory to me as opposed to Maine.
And so I wonder what you do do in terms of the problem that you're going to have in finding both of those guys' opponents.
And if you do try to solve it by giving them each other, there is some logic to that.
I would just prefer not to see it.
UFC feeding us well with these last few pay-per-views in the ESPN area.
UFC 321, obviously Tom Aspinall on the main event.
A lot of good fights there in Abu Dhabi.
UFC 322 at MSG has absolutely stacked the gills.
Stacked.
Stacked.
323 in December.
Moran versus Jan, Pantoja versus Josh Van,
Macy Barber versus Karini Silva,
Henry Suhudo, Peyton Talbot,
Jan Blahovich going against Bogdan Gouscov.
You got Faresiam versus Nazim Sadikov,
Brian Marino, Tatsuro, Tyra,
Terrence McKinney taking on Chris Duncan.
That's like guaranteed violence.
Grant Dawson, Manuel Torres,
Marvin Vittori, Bruno Fajara.
These last few pay reviews in the ESPN era are not bad.
322 is crazy.
322 is nuts.
Yeah, that feels like the card of the year
at the moment on paper.
we'll see how it ultimately plays out.
Payton Talbot beats Henry Sehudo, title shot?
Why not?
I don't know.
He's number 10.
Yeah, I think it's, let's chill.
I think it's Batista, Umar, win.
Marcus Buccecha?
Who's the new Buccecha at Bantam with that they're going to bring in?
I don't know.
Look, Amin Zahabi, Mario Batista, all those guys that have kind of been talking around
and we've been listing that are in that range, they're probably going to,
end up having to like fight each other and then you're eliminating one option it is going to be
slim pickens for next year for maraub what he did this year is going to be so so impressive if he's
able to get past piotr yon i don't think it's any secret we're both predicting that marab is able to win
that fight if he does he set him up himself up for a tricky kind of 2026 that that's ultimately
where i think that will fall because like the omali thing seems like it's done right yon would have
now been to. Umar, you could
kind of, I think there's enough of a story
there that you could kind of shoot Umar back into it.
Corey just happened. It's really
going to get tough to find Marab
opposition in 2026. And there's
there'll be no top in this 2025 if he's
able to get it done. No. In December.
That's 323. I think we're
both in agreeance. If he gets it done, this will be the best calendar
year. One thing I don't
hear, what about Marab going up?
Oh, to 145? I mean, he talks about that
with Ariel with Volk. He was like, no, I don't really want
to do it. I would suspect
that he wouldn't want to do it again he's kind of like he's perfect for bantam weight and
his style but when when you come to the point where you're realizing maybe the opposition is
is not going to get me where i want from a status perspective maybe that changes because i do think
there are some big fights at 45 that could be had for him it's all it's all this combination
of business and resume and legacy and all these things ultimately i think maraub will be fine
I already have him as the Bantamweight goat.
I think this will all shake out decently for him,
but things to consider heading into 2026.
That's 323.
322.
We mentioned it, but if you haven't seen it,
main card, J.D.M. Islam Makashav,
Valentina Shepchenko, Wiley Zhang,
Leon Edwards, Carlos Brachiaz,
Bnielderi, SPSD,
Sean Brady, Michael Morales,
featured about Aaron Blanchfield,
Tracy Cortez by Sanger Susukayev
also on the card,
Bo Nickel, also on the card.
Absolutely stacked to the gills.
We'll get to that.
Later on,
in the year, though. Let's go to this weekend. UFC Vancouver. We're back in the Great
White North, and we've got a big middleweight clash, not as big as it could have been. It should
have been RDR versus Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. Potential title Eliminator.
I really wanted to know. We saw Nassardine Imov, like he didn't put on the greatest performance
but got the job done. Like, this could have been a stamp the title ticket between RDR and
Fluffy Hernandez. Alas, we end up with RDR and Brendan Allen, filling.
in. Brennan Allen was on a seven-fight win streak. Now he finds himself a winner of just
one in his last three. And RDR, man, you talk about 12-month runs. RDR looking to go
five and oh since he made his debut last year in November against GM3 would be unbelievable
and he's this close to a title shot. If it ain't this one, it's the next one. Yeah, you have
to think that he's knocking on the door of it. I do think that a win over Fluffy would have stamped
it, whereas a win over Brendan Allen. I don't know if it necessarily is.
emphatic win over Fluffy, I think he's getting it. He gets it. Yeah, I agree with that. And so it is a little bit of a letdown. I thought that was a fantastic fight. I was really looking forward to that. This is not a bad fight either, but I just don't think it has that same kind of oomph that a win over Fluffy would have had or in Fluffy's case, a win over RDR. The chaos, the madness that is RDR versus just the absolute savage in Fluffy Hernandez. It's not the same thing, but I'm in agreeance with you. I think it is a, I think it's going to,
to be a good fight.
Interested to see how it plays out.
RDR, obviously, with the nasty BJJ, Brennan Allen, a solid striker.
Excuse me, it hasn't been finishing people as much as of late, a lot of decisions.
So, like, I give the finishing upside to RDR.
I give the striking to Brennan Allen, but, like, if they go to the mat, then I probably
favor RDR, then there's just the chaos factor, and I'm kind of like an RDR doubter into
this point.
Now I can't doubt them anymore.
Like, ultimately, I think I'm going to go with RDR, but it's just a lot of, but
but it's a solid scrap that could go many different routes.
I'm going to commit the Cardinal sin that I've replicated over and over and over and will continue to make over again.
Tell me, because I might be doing the same thing.
I'm picking against RDR.
Okay, all right.
I was going to say, my Cardinal sin is picking against the guy, picking against the guy, picking against the guy.
They win, they win, they win, and then I'm like, all right, I'm done down this guy.
I'm going to go with them.
And then they lose.
Yeah, you're making that mistake.
I'm doing the other one.
I'm doing the other one, which is like, I don't believe in RDR in the way that I believe in
Brendan Allen or would have believed in Fluffy against him.
There is a point where I think this, look, he has proven to be better than I thought he
was going to be entering the UFC, but I still don't see like a finished product guy that
I'm like, I know this guy can be a championship material fighter.
Like, if you put him in there with Hamzai right now, he's not beating Hamzat.
I know, you know, it's a fight and anything can happen.
He's not beating Hamzat.
There's just, there's not a chance.
Quite frankly, I don't know if there's anybody who's beating Hamzat at this moment.
Brendan Allen to me, I think, is a little more well-rounded than some of the past opposition.
If, like, we've seen scrambles between Fluffy and Brendan Allen that, like, Brendan Allen was doing pretty decent.
And if Brendan Allen is able to, like, execute the wrestling, on the feet, I don't think it's a huge edge to Allen.
Maybe if it's an edge, it's a minor edge in that clinch.
Like, we've seen some nasty tieboxing from RDR so far in his UFC run.
at range though I maybe give a minor edge to Brendan Allen
but what I think he might be able to do better than RDR
is combine those two things is do a little bit of that wrestleboxing
you know just keeping the range just enough to get his strikes off
going for clinches going for takedowns when he needs it
getting out if it starts to look at even the slightest bit dangerous right
if RDR looks like he's close to trying to do something you kind of get out
if Brendan Allen can control where this fight takes place
I give him an edge and I'm surprised to see him as his big
good dog as he is. I think he's creeping up toward two to one. Close to it. He's like a minus
210 RDR is. And it's actually interesting that you say this because Brennan essentially said
the same thing. Obviously, he's going to have the self-belief in himself. Yeah. But he was at
the presser being like, I just don't see it. I just don't think he's that guy. Like I think I can
do better in each area than him. And like no one's really brought it to him. He has fought like
Robert Whitaker. He's fought very good guys. Good talent here in the in the UFC so far. But he is,
he's saying the same thing.
So that's how he feels about it.
And by the way, I call it the Cardinal mistake
because I've made this mistake many times.
I doubted DDP along the way.
Every step of the way, I doubted DDP.
You doubted J.DM.
You hate the three initial guys.
I don't know if I doubted J.D.M.
Just in the fight against Balal
and ultimately, you know, that didn't go our way.
Although I will also be picking against him in November
when it comes to Islam versus J.D.
Maybe I do doubt J.D.M.
Good.
But, yeah, ultimately, like, I think RDR has proven to be much better than I thought and much better than a lot of people expected.
But I feel the way Brendan Allen feels, which is, like, I've seen enough of Brendan Allen that when he's on and he's at his best, he's able to control where fights take place.
And if he can do that against RDR, I think he will be the one controlling it, right?
RDR's game is much more predicated on, like, there's a little bit of chaos, there's a little bit of moments where he has an opportunity to create, whether it be a scramp,
or whether it be in the clinch,
something that the opponent wasn't kind of
ready for, right? And if he can
off balance, if he can offset
Brendan Allen's rhythm, and
it's actually Brendan who's kind of the
one that's a little bit off the timing,
I think it will start to snowball
and I actually think RDR will kind of like take
over from that point. But if Brendan's
on his game, at the best versions
of we've seen of Brendan Allen, if he
can stay at range and box with them and then just
mix in even shots, right?
It doesn't have to be takedowns themselves, even shots,
and the way that kind of Marab does,
I think it's a winnable fight to the point
that I'd actually even favor him a little bit.
All right, so, I mean,
we saw RDR get dropped against Whitaker.
I mean, he was this close to getting finished.
So, like, he is, it is possible for him
at these moments of weakness.
Like, I think he just looked unbelievable
against Bone Nickel.
Like, he struggled against GM3 as well.
So, like, there is a world where this goes five rounds.
Smoke Kevin Holland.
Smoked Kevin Hollen, yeah.
He looks great there.
It's like when he looks like really good,
he looks unbelievable and like when he
gets into competitive
fights like he does have like those
bad moments where he gets dropped or he looks like
he's struggling against GM3. I could see this being
like a 48, 47 either way. For sure
and I'm not
I don't think it's like a
this is not me going out of a limit being like
it's a foregone conclusion that Brendan Allen's going to win
this fight and his pact of victory
is so clear. It could get dicey for
Renan Allen because I have concerns about him as well. I don't
think Brendan Allen is like this guy
that's a guaranteed championship level fighter.
So I have concerns about his game as well.
Ultimately, I think it's going to be who controls the pace, who controls the rhythm, who controls the timing.
But I do think Brendan Allen is going to be the one to be able to do that at the moment.
They've called you in the chat or the voicemails or super chats or something.
They've called you Eric ultimately, Jacqueline.
Did I just say it?
You said it.
And I noticed I said it earlier in this bit when I was making my prediction.
Now you've got me saying they ultimately.
I gave this gift to you.
I think another thing I do is instead of agreement, I say agreeance, which they mean like exactly.
exactly the same thing.
One is just like...
They don't like you saying that.
One is older...
Oh yeah, people are always like
Ah, GC, agreeance.
It's so goddamn annoying.
Whatever happens is a strictin.
Remember when they called you out on that?
Yeah.
I did say stricter.
I get some tongue twisters in here.
I mean, we sit here and talk for like two and a half, three hours.
Like, I'm bound to mess it up eventually.
Let's say RDR wins.
Yeah.
Title shot.
Oh, you say no matter what.
He has the thing right now.
Like, don't...
don't waste the momentum.
Don't waste the thing.
Like, it's,
you have to strike when the iron's hot
when it comes to the UFC.
And I feel like he's a rare example of like,
you just talked about his level of activity.
This would be the fifth USC win for him
since his debut, right?
This would be number five.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Five and O in 11 months.
In 11 months.
Like, take that opportunity
and strike while the iron's hot
because you don't know what's going to happen
when you sit on the sidelines.
He loses some of that momentum.
It feels like RDR has the,
has the favor of the fans.
The books have him as a huge favorite
over a guy that if you had this fight
as his debut in the UFC,
he'd be a plus 300, 400 underdog.
Like, take this opportunity
that he has all this momentum now
and just ride it.
That's my feeling.
This is a hot hand at the table.
Just ride this opportunity
and let him get a title shot.
Obviously, he's been around longer.
And, like, the five-fight run is much more impressive.
But technically, like,
Imova would only be on a five-fight win-street.
as well.
Yeah, look.
But Kyle Bajalio, Israel Adasanya,
Brendan Allen,
Jared Canaan,
here, and Roman DeLite
is a much harder five.
If we're going to do the fake
that does not exist,
quote unquote,
deserves,
Imov deserves a title shot.
There's no doubt in my mind.
Like, you can't make an argument
against his resume.
But this is a push the hot hand
and he gets the next one, right?
That's my stance on it.
It is like,
you have lightning in a bottle
right now with RDR.
Don't let it cool off,
right?
His momentum,
we started this show with a conversation about Marab de Valishvili
and how hot he was in 2025 and keeping that momentum.
Think about where Marab was with the fans, with Dana White at the end of 2024,
and how he was not the guy that all of a sudden now he's the machine
and everybody loves him and everybody respects him and he's this champion
that everybody wants to get behind.
It was not this at the end of last year.
This momentum works.
This idea of like carrying the momentum,
it is not artificial.
It is something and it will help solidify.
If you push RDR into a title shot now,
it will be the best possible time that you can do it.
Do I think he wins it now?
No.
Do I think he wins it if he waited and was too away?
No.
But ultimately, I think it will be better for the audience
and for the appeal if you do it now while he's hot.
I was going to say RDR versus DDP.
I'm down for it.
But if you're RDR at a certain point,
it's like, man, I've been doing it all.
lot of favors of you guys like i've been stepping in there i this fluffy hernandez fight was
going to be a number one contender potentially a fight potentially right he pulls out i stay on
the card like he didn't he didn't have to stay on this card he could have just said all right i'm
going to take the next opponent i think he feels the momentum thing that i'm talking about i think
he feels like if i can keep this momentum going i could slide myself into that spot i'm down
for a ddp fight i think that'd be a lot of fun it's the chaos versus chaos it's the it's the it's the comic hammers
coming in at the same time.
But I just feel like strike while the iron's hot with him.
If Brennan Allen wins, even above title shot?
Yes.
I agree. I agree. It's going to be interesting. I got RDR. He's got
Brendan Allen in the main event. Let's go to the co-main event.
Kevin Holland taking on Mike Malak. Kevin Holland, fifth fight this year.
You talk about calendar years. He's already in his fifth one.
And I'm sure he's already signed the contract for December win-luser draw in this fight
against Mike Malott. He is two and two so far in 2025. Lost as a minus 600 favorite against
D-Rod last time out. Now he gets hometown kid Mike Malott. This is kind of the like bet on him
as a minus 600 favorite. He loses bet against him when he's a plus 175 and he wins. Yeah, that's
exactly what this is. And it's the Kevin Holland experience where like sometimes he fights up
to the competition, sometimes he fights down. I don't know how to what to make of this one. Ultimately,
Fuck, did it again with the ultimately.
Eric ultimately Jackman.
If this plays out at range, I do give a slight edge to Mike Malat.
I think the power's a little bit better on his side.
I think he's a little bit cleaner.
Plus, I feel like the improvement from fight to fight is on Malat's side,
as opposed to Kevin Holland's just like, at the beginning of the year,
he's like, I'm fighting six times this year, and it looks like he's going to fight six times this year.
Kevin Holland is who Kevin Holland is.
We're not seeing massive leaps in his game at this point,
but his game is a dangerous game
like in the striking
would I be surprised to see Kevin Holland
outstriked Mike Malat? Not really
like Kevin Holland stood there toe to toe
with a Wonderboy with a busted hand
and kind of just still did the thing like
Kevin Holland is a supremely talented
striker so I wouldn't be surprised
but I do give the slight edge in favor Mike Malott
if it remains on the feet then
if Mike Malott at all tries to
implement a grappling heavy approach
or even mixes it in
I think that's where he'll ultimately
Now it's in your head
Now it's in my head
I think that's where he will
He will eventually have a lot more success
And yeah
It's similar to like how I feel about the Brendan Allen
Actually like I think Kevin Holland is dangerous
I think RDR is dangerous
But I think the one who's going to be able to control
The tempo pace and location of this fight
is going to be Malat
And so I favor that style
I think it's a properly lined scrap minus 110 each way
I could see anything happening
Mike Millot really relies on his finishing capabilities a lot. Kevin Holland, a tough dude to finish.
If Kevin Holland is at his best, he is a hard out. Like, it is not easy to get that man out of there.
It's not easy to beat him. But man, you just like, you kind of just don't know with Kevin Holland what version of him you're going to get.
And if we get an improving Mike Malad, I would have to favor him.
The problem with Kevin Holland fights is sometimes Kevin accepts fights playing out in the opponent's favor.
because he's so, like, cool and calm under pressure.
It's almost like a, yeah, I'm not in danger,
so why do I need to, like, freak out or do anything?
And that leads to these, like, periods of just losing fights.
Like, it leads to this inactivity, this level of, like,
because he's not feeling in danger,
because he's not feeling like there's anything
that's really going to harm him particularly badly,
he's kind of there for the taking.
And then you see guys kind of landing on him.
You see because he's not feeling like somebody's going to come in there and finish him,
so he just kind of
he kind of goes with their flow
while the fight's playing out that way
and I feel like that's what's ultimately
going to happen here like I feel like
Malat is going to like control the flow
and Holland might just be willing
to play that game with him
if Holland is the one who's stifling
Malat if he's being more aggressive
I think this fight could get very interesting
very quick but
I favor Malat
I favor Malat as well which is exactly why
Kevin Holland will finish
when you least
expect that Kevin Holland win. And that's why he's fun. I love Kevin Holland. He'll probably
be talking shit. Crowd will probably be into it. It'll be fun, man. I'm looking forward to that one.
This Vancouver card is deep. I like it. There's a lot of good fights on this one. Let's go to the
feature about Marlon Chito Vera taking on Amin Zahabi. You talk about a guy who needs to win.
Marlon Chito Vera needs a win here. I know he's a fan favorite, but like we're getting
about a year and a half since that title shot against Sean O'Malley. He's one and three
in his last four. Now he's taking on a guy in Zahabi who's not really a big name. He's just kind of
rising through the ranks.
It's a hobby.
We'll get a massive benefit from getting this W here.
Need to see one go through the hoop for Cheeto.
Yeah, and this feels like the level of opposition
that you could potentially see one go through the hoop, right?
Like, Cheeto Vera has been fighting the cream of the crop in this division for an extremely
long time.
We now see the Davis and Figurado loss has aged a little bit better, right?
Davis and Figurato was very clearly like going to have some decent success at Bantamway.
he had a crazy initial run then he hit some turbulence now he's back on track but it's clear
that davis and figurato is a top bantam weight like is a is a highly skilled bantam weight and so
you lose to o'malley you used to figurator you lose to sanhagen like those are the top those are the
best guys like it's hard to look at chito vera and go ah he's really on a skid when you're looking
at guys who are the best of the best and so amen feels like a real drop off in terms of the
skill set from those guys. And so I wouldn't be surprised if we see kind of a vintage Marlon
Vera performance. The thing that worries me, though, is even the vintage Marlon Vera performances,
I talked about Kevin Holland. Marlon is the same way, which is like, if he doesn't feel like
you're really going to, like, threaten him, he kind of just goes with the flow. And sometimes
that works against him, right? But then all of a sudden he pulls out a crazy knockout of
Dominic Cruz or something like that. But sometimes he's just like in the fight. And I don't
know how to, I don't know how to properly, like, voice what I'm trying to say or describe it,
but it's just like an acceptance. It's an acceptance of like this dance that we're doing.
A slow starter. It's, yeah, it's like a slow starter kind of thing as opposed to somebody who's
going to come in there and go, no, from second one of this moment, I'm going to be on your ass.
And he's just not that style of fighter. And that's okay. You don't have to be that style
of fighter. He's found great success without being that. But I do worry about that in these types
of fights, especially a three-rounder, right?
We saw in the fight with Amon and Joseo
like some wild, wild, wild swings there
over the course of five rounds, that plays out a little bit differently.
But with three rounds, you never know which way that goes.
And I think it would be a tactical error
to let Amon's a hobby kind of like have a round
or do what he wants to do for a little bit
before you turn it on, especially in three rounds.
I mean, he's talking about Amin's a hobby, man.
Six-fight, one streak, five of those.
He was an underdog.
He gets a slight favorite nod over Marlon Chito Vera,
but consistently doubted.
Yeah, it's been a fairy tale type of run.
Yeah, I mean, I remember the fight that kicked this off
was the, not the Draco Rodriguez, the Ricky Terseo's fight.
Big dog going into that one.
He was coming off, Ricky Terseo was coming off a tough and everything,
and everyone was all in on him.
And I remember when he's a hobby beat him, I was like, oh, damn.
And then when he beat Javi Bosharat, it was like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
Plus 600 in that one, gave him his first career loss.
Now he's beating guys like Pedro Munoz, Jose Aldo, and now has a chance.
to really solidify himself at the top of the 135 division
with a win over Marlon Chito Vera.
It's crazy to see how our guy has come, one of our own.
Shout out to the Hellwani twin.
Is he going to get it done?
Is he going to beat Chito?
Man, this is one of those ones where he don't want to see either guy lose, right?
Like, I don't want to see Chito lose four or five.
It'd be a great story, whoever wins.
I'll say that.
I'm going to side with Marlon Chito Vera to bounce back.
I think so too.
I lean Marlon here.
I think he knows he needs it.
And if he wants to at all kind of remain near the top of this division,
you have to win this is a winnable part for you.
But this is the one you got to win.
You have to win it.
Can't lose four or five in the last one beat Damon Zahavi.
No, I'll do respect to Amund Zahavi.
What the fuck is going on, bro?
Do that one, get that one ready for when, uh, when Cheeto wins.
When Cheetos in the octagon and Ariel enters it.
Ariel, I mean, you know.
What the fuck is going on?
These are two of his guys.
He loves Marlon.
Cheetos is one of the regular guests on the show.
It's a hobby too, friend of the program and also doppelganger.
Yeah, this is the this is the Halwani Bowl.
It truly is.
We had that graphic for the G.C. like, fight for the week, yeah.
This is the, this is the Halwani Bowl for sure.
Let's keep on rolling along.
Another very good friend of the program, Jasmine.
Oh, beat me too, Frankie.
You're on the spot with that one.
Taking on Manon.
taking on Manon Fioro, who's coming off a title loss to Valentina Shepchenko,
4847 on all three judges' scorecards.
This is a tough one.
This is a tough one for Jasmine, Jazz DeViscius.
It is the...
He was early the other times.
Yeah, no, I should have laid out for that one, Frankie.
I'm sorry, that's on me.
87% takedown defense for Minone.
Really solid striking.
Tough as nails.
Just saw her go toe-to-toe with the champ.
One of the best fly weights of all time.
Jasmine has been on an amazing run, but this is very difficult for her.
Yes. This is going to be difficult from the sole reason that Manon is going to be faster, is going to be the better striker.
And I expect that a lot of the fight plays out there. As you said, the take-down defense for Monon is quite good.
And so it will be hard to get her down.
I mean, it was kind of like the Blanchefield fight that we were at.
Yeah. Blanchefield could not do anything.
couldn't do anything.
There's a difference in physicality there, in my opinion, though.
Like, Blanchfield is strong.
She's not great at getting people to the mat.
Jasmine, on the other hand, is.
Jasmine is going to be a lot bigger and a lot stronger, in my opinion.
And so if she's aggressive enough,
I do think she's going to have opportunities to counter Manon.
If she can crowd Manon and prevent her from, like,
just striking at range, throwing out those kicks and those punches,
I think there's going to be opportunities for her.
I like Jasmine as a dog in this fight.
I'm not going to get into the logistics or anything of it.
I'm just going with Jasmine.
I picked against her too many times.
I got called out for it.
I got shit on it for it.
Buy her.
By her.
Right when she got back to the locker room.
Hashtag, stay vicious.
I'm going with Jasmine Jazz, the vicious.
Truly, though, like, she to me poses a problem
that I don't think a lot of the other flywates do.
just in terms of her size.
Like her size and physicality
is going to be a lot
for people to deal with.
Manone's game is predicated
around that like high volume,
pip pat, in out,
pop, pop, pop.
If Jasmine could be in her face
and just close that distance
and now that's obviously
counterintuitive to somebody
who is bigger than her opponents,
most of the time you're going to want to stay at range.
But if she can crowd that space
or she can close that distance
and at least threaten the takedowns
if not get them,
I wouldn't be surprised if she's
actually able to take her down. I think
I really like Jasmine in this fight
as a dog. Get nasty on top.
Just be nasty with it. Be vicious.
Stay vicious. For lack of a
better term. If she can be aggressive
and really just be nasty with her
work, I think there's a real
opportunity for her here because I don't think
I don't think Manon is threatening enough
with finishing capability.
If you're Jasmine, you know
that you could probably take her best
punch. Accept that.
Wade through it, close that gap and see what
you can do once you're in close. If you can clinch her, if you can grab her and find a way
to drag it to the mat, man, once Jasmine gets people down and she's in that ground and pound,
it's pretty nasty stuff. So I like her as an underdog here. It's a tall task, but I'm going to
rock with her. I'm going to rock with her. I'm with her too. A bit of a homer pick, but
Jasmine gets it done. Coda Gibson versus Areechie Lang. Cote Gibson, the representative of
the U.S. here versus the man from
China. No Canadian here. I was
interested to see that. Is that the only one?
I think on the main card, it's
the only one because we got Brendan Allen.
Oh, Alan and Rainer-Daritter, obviously.
Well, Brennan, because of I believe his
grandparents, is going to be representing. Oh, is he
reping Canada for this? Yep. Yeah, they
got the flag next to his thing. Oh, shout-out.
So, yeah, shout-out. Cody Gibson
and Ritchie Lang, both guy coming off of losses.
Cody Gibson, obviously, the sweetheart from
Tough 31, as we all have them.
Obviously. Obviously. Obviously.
Yeah, I mean, it should be a solid scrap.
Bandaway Bout, don't have a ton to say.
Don't have a ton of stakes on it.
But, I mean, both these guys come to throw down.
It should be entertaining.
Yeah, I probably lean Cody on this one, but I don't feel super strong about it.
Cody right now, minus 170.
Speaking of doppelgangers, kicking off the main card in a proper scrap, my doppelganger,
Kyle Nelson, he's now my official UFC doppelganger because we got Gurum making his debut in ACA in a couple of weeks.
Taking on the Steam Rolla, Matt Frivola, should be.
a fantastic bow, Kyle Nelson
coming off of
believe knockout victory
or did he lose to Steve Garcia
lost to Steve Garcia
Bill Algeo at that Atlantic City
card that we're at.
I'm telling you, man,
they put a lot of these fighters
on the same cards.
Like, you've got
Monon Fioro on this card.
You've got Kyle Nelson
on this card. RDR,
we saw at Des Moines.
Like I'm telling you, it's like the cards we go to
they like try and stack them all together.
It's something weird.
Kyle Nelson with a
nasty knockout of Bill Algeo at that card, though, and then a knockout loss.
Steam Rolla, seven in a row have knocked on to a decision for him.
So I think they're going to put on a fun fight.
Yeah, I had to look it up because I didn't remember the last time we had seen Fervola,
and it's been over a year now.
Ferziam.
Yeah, September 28, 2024.
In Paris.
In Paris, a nasty knee knockout.
Yeah, I think if Frivola can just stuff the takedowns, I think he's going to be in pretty good shape.
Yeah, he's kind of fallen in love with the striking, so I'm mad.
imagine that's what they do. And I think someone gets put out in this one. I think it's,
I think it's a good scrap and someone gets finished. Yeah, I could see it, especially if
later in the fight, like Nelson's kind of been struggling to get some takedowns, been trying
and trying and trying if Favola's been able to stuff him. If it gets those later rounds,
then maybe I think Favola has an opportunity to finish. He's obviously got, you know,
three round power. He's got power in any of, in any moment of the fight. Ultimately,
God damn it. If he stuffs the takedowns, I like Frivolta here.
I'm going to go with my boy
Doppelganger
All love to Matt Favola
Great follow on MMA Twitter
But I'm going to go with the doppelganger
The man who's rocking the ball of beard brand
I'm going to go with Kyle Nelson
Featured scrap
Of the evening
Featured prelim I should say
Charles Jordane taking on Davy Grant
Dangerous Davy Grant
About to turn 40 years old
Taking on the young
And upcoming Charles Jordain
Who finds himself back in the one column
After a two fight
Losing streak
As an underdog
I don't mind Davy Grant.
I mean, we've seen Charles Rodane get challenged in there,
and Davy Grant has won to challenge people,
especially in the striking.
Davy Grant is like the ultimate gamer, man.
He is the gamer of all gamers.
Like that last fight against Blackshear.
He showed his medal.
He showed his toughness against a guy who,
I think he was probably a big dog in that one, right?
Against Blackshear?
Yeah, I can tell you right now.
He was a plus 285.
Yeah.
So that's the Davey Grant style.
That's the Davey Grant.
story he can withstand a lot of punishment but also come those later rounds he's going to be able to
really like put it on you and get you out of there i do like charles jane is one of those guys
who when he's on i feel like he looks like he can be one of the best in the world but there's too
many moments where he's not davy is a little more consistent right davy's a little more meat
potatoes you know what you're getting like you're going to get a pretty consistent effort from him
throughout the three rounds
and he's going to be in your face
and he's going to be trying to finish it.
I think Charles Dordaigne
is going to win this fight if he's at his best,
so I'll ultimately, I'll lean that way,
but I wouldn't be surprised
by another Davey Grant upset.
It just feels like that's what he does.
The last win for Charles Rodain against Victor Henry
kind of feels like
Davey Grant sort of like a cranked-up version
of Victor Henry. Obviously, in his later
stages of his career, but he is still
got that dog in him. He is always
dangerous and always comes to scrap. I think
either way, it's going to be a really fun fight. Agreed.
There's a lot of those
liked it on here. Bruno Silva taking on.
Main eventer.
Hjong Park.
UFC Apex
106, 107.
Yeah, what was that one supposed to be?
He filled in
against Taturo Taira.
But who was he supposed to? Who is Tyra
supposed to face?
I'll tell you right now.
This was back in August
It was supposed to be...
Was it like Royval or...
It was supposed to be...
Oh, Amir Al-Azzi.
I'm here, Al-Azzi.
Shut up for Al-Bazi.
So, yeah, main eventor, Hounsung Park.
UFC main eventor Huentung Park
thinking on middleweight Bruno Silva.
He, you know, he didn't look like
completely out of place in that fight against Tyra.
Now, certainly, look, as soon as it hit the mat,
we knew, you know, we knew where that fight was going to go
as far as Tyra goes, but yeah, I don't know.
I feel like he actually looked like in the brief moments that we got to see that fight against Tyra.
I actually was pretty impressed with a guy stepping in on short notice.
So I think he should be good enough to beat Silva.
Yeah, Bruno Silva on a two-fight losing streak, but coming against Joshua Van and Manel Cop, can you really blame the guy?
Like, that is the elite of the elite in this division.
Yeah, am I misremembering this?
What round did Tyra win in?
Like the second round?
Yeah, very early on the second.
Yeah, I think I remember being decently impressed by Park.
You didn't go back and crunch the tape on UFC.
No, I didn't go back to that one.
Because for a guy who took this opportunity on short notice against a guy who is as good as Tyra,
I think I came away going like, yeah, that guy could actually be a guy, I think.
And so I'll back him.
I think he'll beat Silva.
Your guy, left-hand two guy, Danny Barlow.
Shut out.
Taking on Jordan Santos.
One of the biggest favorites on the card, minus 300.
If Danny Barlow can do what Danny Barlow does,
should be a short night, you know?
Coming off the loss of Sam Patterson got knocked out.
That was a fun one because it was just these two lanky-ass big dudes.
Swinging.
And Sam Patterson was on the right end of that, so shout out to him.
But, yeah, I think we'll see Danny Barlow do what Danny Barlow does.
So I'm back in Danny on this one.
A split versus Nikolai Verra Tenekov before that.
You want to see him get back in the K.O. column.
Yeah.
I think he can do that here.
but we'll see. We'll see. I'm not as confident as you
and left hand too got. Great nickname. Great nickname. Drew Dober
taking on the short-notice replacement against BSD earlier this year, Kyle Preppel.
That's right. Yeah, doing a favor for the Canadian, putting him on a home country card.
Remember, Kyle Prebleck? Like, he didn't look that bad in the first round. Ends up getting
finished in the second, but, like, he didn't look terrible. Drew Dober's getting a little old.
regardless, Drew Dover's a minus 500.
Yeah, I will go with Drew Dober, but to your point, like, in that first round,
like, I had a similar takeaway that I had with Park where I was just like, okay,
like, Preppalek actually can fight.
Like, this is not just a, this is not just like a mercy killing.
Like, he's not just in there to be a body and we're just going to walk through.
But the best version of Dober is the guy who's, you know, slinging with the top lightweights in
this division for as long as he's.
he has. And so I'm going to lean there. But you talk about needing a win, man. Manwell Torres lost,
John Silva loss, Anato Moikano loss, win against Ricky Glenn, but then Matt Frivolta loss. And lots of,
you know, knockout losses as well. For a guy that, like, used to have the iron-clad chin.
Yeah, we saw the nasty cut against John Silva, where his, like, face was hanging up. Like,
he's 36, but he's got a lot of miles. He's got a lot of miles. It's been a hard road
to this point, he should still be good enough
to be Preppelac, but I was
like you, like, feeling like Preppelac
was better than I would have
thought for a guy who was just stepping in there
with no prep time. Obviously,
Moikano, Silva, and Manuel Torres
is a much tougher stress than Kyle Prepalek,
but at minus 500.
That's a lot. That's a hefty price for Drew Dober.
For Drew Dober at this point in his career.
Ultimately, I'll pick Drew Dover,
but definitely not touching him at the minus 500
odds point there.
Osamot Bakayev
Sort of MMA Twitter's darling
For a couple weeks there
Started getting pretty big for him
And taking on Yusri
Belgaroi
Belgarwi
Yeah you know this one better than me
Comes over from kickboxing
He's the main
Sparring partner for Alex Pereira
He's the one that Alex has kind of been like
Saying and I think he's had
Contender Series opportunities unless I'm mistaken
He might have had multiple
Yeah he lost on contendering
series in 2023, then came back and won in 2020.
And then, yeah. So, man, Eustry is, as far as kickboxing goes,
Eustry was like the Uber prospect. He was this young guy, good looking, super long,
super lean, comes in there, like, you know, Israel, Asana, Alex Perr, a level type guy,
maybe even above as, as far as like straight traditional kickboxing goes.
And then like things kind of just didn't pan out. Glory had some, some issues.
and he ultimately didn't find his way.
But as far as striking goes, this is one of the best strikers on the planet.
So you put him in an MMA fight against somebody who might potentially strike with him.
I'm going to favor him.
I feel like he's going to have a good opportunity.
If it goes anywhere but the striking, it's going to be a bad time.
He's also going to be five inches taller, six five against six foot and having seven inch reach advantage.
If it stays striking, Bukai's coaches need to get fired.
Yes, agreed.
Take him down.
If you stand with him for any extended period of time, it's his realm and it's his world.
And he, as you said, like physical gifts-wise, he is extremely gifted in that regard.
Take him down and I think you're going to have a lot of success.
Take him down.
Iron Azamapokoev.
Yeah, this feels like a dub for him.
Yeah, I'm going to favor him to go with e-restling and get it done.
Maybe you're going to finish.
A little G&P finished for Azamapakoyev.
Solid card, though.
Solid card taking place in Canada.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Seven fights with real Canadian, so not as many as I expected it to be.
Like, if you want to count Brennan and Allen, that makes it eight.
I'm going to count Allen.
Okay, all right, eight.
Melissa Croden making her debut against Tainara, Lisboa, and the curtain jerker.
Like Cruden there in the hometown.
Charles Dordane, Davy Grant,
Stephanie Luciano versus Ravenna Oliveira.
Two Brazilians going at it.
Yeah, it's a solid card, man.
I'm really looking forward to this fight night.
I'm hoping the Vancouver crowd brings it.
The Canada card's always good for that.
The fans always show out.
They're always good.
Oh, Canada.
I feel like you just have shoulder pads on with this hockey jersey.
That is UFC Vancouver.
Another really big benefit to this one,
like we saw last week with Brazil
I'm fighting a sneeze like hell right now
I think I won't do it no oh you beat it
yeah it's all in the brain now yeah yeah it was it was
it was really fighting me hard I started watering there for a second
not me getting emotional over UFC Vancouver
four o'clock start for Vancouver just like UFC Rio
you like that yeah I actually ordered a second TV
on Sunday for uh because I was watching college football
on an iPad and I had UFC Rio on a TV and I was like you know
know what? Just go ahead. Let's just go ahead and get a second TV. So debuting the second TV
at the crib. Yeah, big baller, Roku TV for like $110. Man, couldn't they push it up to like
1 o'clock though? That would be like, I see. Listen, man, it's in Vancouver. So they're on Pacific
time. So like it is 1 o'clock for Vancouver. Come on, 4 o'clock. We're done by 10, man.
It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad. It would be dual screening Georgia with a big game
against Ole Miss this weekend, number four in the country. So, yeah. Yeah, there was
a point last week when Charles is walking on. I'm like, whoa, it's early. Yeah, it's great. I got my,
I got my night ahead of me. It's great. It's great. Keep that up. Keep that up. Four o'clock fight night
start, eight o'clock pay-per-view main card start. That's the dream. That's what we're all
fighting for out here. All right, that is UFC Vancouver. Great card this weekend. Going down
in the Great White North. We will be back in just a moment with Parley Pals' bets. Pound for
pound. Your voicemail, super chats. We're just getting started here. We'll be back in just a moment. Don't go anywhere.
We are back, and we come out of the break with some breaking news.
Our boy, an official boy in the back.
One Malcolm Wellmaker, unfortunately lost his opponent,
Sergey City, dealing with an injury at UFC 322,
just up the road of Madison Square Garden.
The good news is it looks like he's going to stay on the card.
He has a new opponent, Australia's Cody Haddon.
Look at Graphics Department.
Geez, Louise.
they work fast back there
no one works harder
still on UFC 322
in New York City
Cody Hatton coming off
the contender series
I believe
or has a win over
Yeah he has a win
I just looked this up
He had a win over
Dan Argetta
Dan Argetta
Which is a decent win
Oh yeah
A year ago
This weekend
That being reported by Nolan King
of MMA junkie
He does a great job
Shout out to Nolan King
Oh hadn't was supposed to fight
Taboria's brother at 312.
Oh, is that who...
Okay, so that would make sense.
Yeah, this just...
I'm all right with it.
Let's just keep getting Wellmaker fights, but...
I was going to say,
this feels like just to keep Wellmaker on the card,
which I think is a smart move.
Yeah, man.
You give him this big opportunity,
MSG card, and he comes out
with a nasty highlight real knockout,
that's going to be a best case scenario for you.
People in the chat seem to be showing some love to Haddon,
said he had a good debut.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, I mean, Argetta is a tough opponent.
This is a way better fight.
Tetra Booman says it's a way better fight.
Actually, a step up says Matt M. M.A.
There you go.
People seem to think that this is a tougher out.
So even better.
I think if Wellmaker can look impressive here, the sky's the limit.
Cody Haddon only lost to one Steve Ersek.
Yeah, he's pretty good, Steve Ursek.
Yeah, it's not bad.
He's not bad.
I'm still taking Wellmaker until the day that I die.
Official boy in the back.
The machine, the other machine.
Who is machine number one?
Do we give Marab preference on that?
Like, is Marab the machine, and he's...
Yes, Marab is undoubtedly the machine.
I was just checking.
We love Malcolm over here.
I saw Martin Sanjo's got a fight, too.
Is there any concern of a boys in the back curse getting created?
Nah.
Hotel Jackson, favorite...
Who else?
Bot for him.
Just that.
That's just the first one.
No, Malcolm's going to...
The Domino to fall.
Malcolm's going to get one.
not.
At MSG.
We'll get no more
guest.
Jordan Levitt.
Nah,
Jordan's?
Never know.
All right,
let's do Parlay
pals.
Losers again
last week.
Surprise,
surprise.
I believe that's
eight straight
losses for the boys.
How did we blow
it this time?
Eight straight.
Frankie blew it
with the aforementioned
honorary
born in the back Montel
Jackson.
Oh, I got to sit this
one out.
I forgot about that.
I did ask
if you want a replacement?
Got no response.
You asked me?
Yeah, yeah.
What did I say?
Who me?
You didn't say anything.
I just don't think you saw the text message.
It's all good.
No ways.
I would have taken Johnny.
Walter out, got to go, Johnny.
Oh, Johnny?
I was like, who the fuck is Johnny?
All right.
I've already gotten Pizzi's pick.
He's taking Underdog Dangerous Davy Grant.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I gave him a hard push to take Phil to freeze his guy, and he just said no.
He said, that's against my ways.
Don't want to go with pastime.
You know, every once in a while, Pizzi does throw his pair on the table.
And I respect it.
Throwing his, uh, his 30 million on the table for a kitchen scrap.
That was a great moment from Monday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wednesday, I think that was yesterday.
What?
Yeah.
No way.
Yeah, if you missed yesterday's show, Pizzi went full on Irish, like, really, like, stereotypical.
Wait, that was yesterday, man.
Oh, my God.
30 million for a kitchen scrap, eh?
He didn't even notice he did it.
Like, it's just so natural for him.
Is 30 the easiest word to say with an Irish accent?
For sure.
Dirty.
A kitchen scrap.
We've heard of a kitchen scrap.
What even is that?
Who is he even referring to?
Like a fight in the kitchen, like just some bullshit.
All right.
Well, either way, his pick is dangerous, Davey Grant.
Frank, you lead us off on a second, Ricky.
Perfect.
I actually want for Vera and Zahavi to go over two and a half.
Oh.
Okay.
Why?
Yep.
Why?
Yeah, I'm asking why?
I like the odds.
Oh, okay.
What are the odds?
Minus 2.35, 375 as of right now.
Thanks.
I appreciate that.
I'm just going to keep believing.
I'm going to go against the grain of my own brain and go with RDR.
No, but you said you're feeling RDR at this moment.
You're not going against your brain.
No, my brain has always doubted RDR.
Oh, okay, okay.
So I'm going against it.
and believing in RDR.
Yeah, I don't hate it.
The price, you know, a little bit.
Should I've gone, Jasmine?
Oh, another dog?
We're just dogging it up?
I think this is a good dog, Will.
Nah, stick with...
Stick with RDR.
Every time I change my pick, I change our winning parlay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sticking with RDR.
This, by the way, is going to be the time that you should have changed it,
then we're going to get kicked in the teeth.
You alluded to it earlier.
no bigger fan left hand to God
Danny Barlow. Let's get
done. The Danny Barlow diehard
right here. It's a dub.
It's a dub. It's a dumb way he's got Danny
padded on his chest.
No, Jordan. He said left hand of God, not
Danny Barlow. Left hand
two. Number two.
Left hand to God.
We got to get on our graphics team. They're quick,
but they're dumb. That's
definitely not plus 172. I'm getting
plus 515.
So, you know
Wow, that's some quick men
Graphics department
I'll let them know, Frank, get on it
I'll have to pay for that one
I'll make sure to pass that on to them
Nice speed, it's not cool if you're wrong, guys
You learn that day one journalism school
All right, before we get to my picks for this weekend
I do want to shout out a couple big hitters,
three of them from UFC Rio
always just someone cashing out
and we start
with Dravi MMMA
out a few times. But man, I cannot imagine how crazy he was going in his living room when this one
hit. Julia Pallastry by K.O. plus 1150. He smacks it for 200. He smacks it for 203. He smacks it for
1234. I think he was getting limited at some point. A payout of over 6,500. And then he also hits
Pallastri to win by finish plus 390, puts 900 on that, hits it for 4,200. And this is
isn't even all the slips he sent me. These are the ones that I just cobbled together.
Unbelievable. Over 10K. Couldn't imagine how nuts he was going for that finish. Shout out to
Drobby MMA. We roll along. Now, do you think Dravie is the biggest Pallastri fan ever, or this is
the fate of all fades against Carolina? I think it's a mix of both, but at that point I'm getting
Pallastry's face tattooed on this stomach. For sure. What a call. Geo genero, another man we've
shouted out many times on this program. Parlay odds of
261,755 turns 60 cents. Yep. Two quarters and a dime. Six times. Twelve nickels.
One quarter, one nickel, three dimes. 60 cents. You get the picture into $1,570.53. He goes,
Palastri to win inside the distance. Lucas Rocha to win by decision. Buy a mosquito to win by
submission. Vitor Petrino inside the distance. Jeffel Filo.
buy submission in rounds one or two
and Michael Aswell
to win inside the distance
unbelievable
that's plus 261,000
7555
imagine if instead of 60 cents
he'd put $6. Yeah
that'd be a
Life changing money
yeah that'd be like a $15,000
payout and then last up
Allen Legacy
but the L's are ones
shout out
Michael Aswell
KO round one
he definitely saw the Lucas Al made a broken hand
con hopefully as a dog
Charles Oliver by submission
put them all together
plus 9641
$5 into $487
and we could have done a whole segment
after this about bad beats
from the
Joel Alvarez not getting the
K.O. Oh yeah. I had a
plus 2,900 last leg being
Joel Alvarez by K.O.
Didn't hit because of
some faulty referee, some faulty judging,
some faulty
fighting action in the third round, but alas, I do feel for everyone that had that,
but, you know, the game's the game, I guess.
I feel your pain, I promise you, I do, because that was tough.
All right, my picks for this weekend.
Melissa Croton, Liker, has a dog in her debut to get it done in front of her home crowd.
This line is on the move.
I grabbed the plus 105.
Moving along, Nelson, Favola, under two and a half.
six straight of knock on the distance.
Kyle Nelson, last two.
Finished and got finished, both in the first round.
I think these boys are coming to scrap.
I think they're coming to put on a war.
Do it for the bald beard brand.
Kyle Nelson, shout out.
We keep rolling.
You know what it is.
Jasmine.
As a dog.
We ride with her no matter what.
Cheers to her.
Stay vicious.
And then, in the main event,
going against the brain.
We're riding with RDR.
He won't cost me any more money.
unless he loses.
And when I had bet on him,
like I did in one championship
when he took on
Anatoly Monkin also lost there.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
RDR.
I've been doubting him.
Now I'm going to stop.
Now he might lose.
I just want to be clear.
Have you ever won a bet
on a fight that RDR is in?
No.
I'm...
You're O.N. 1 betting on him
and then O in 1.
O and 2 betting on him.
I bet on him in both
in both.
Like a dead one.
dummy. I was like something had to have been wrong in the first one because he looked like such
a chump. He looked like just as much of a chump. It's actually a bit of lore of me. That was in
November of 2022 and he took on Anatoly Malkin. Yeah. And I bet on RDR, who is from the Netherlands.
Yeah. The Dutch Knight. I bet against Kevin Holland. He won, which was unfortunate.
which also cost me, you know, Dutch night.
Holland, yeah.
Holland.
Yeah.
And then USA was playing Netherlands in the World Cup,
and I bet on USA,
and they also lost.
There was a trifecta of the country of the Netherlands
bent in me over that weekend.
So, yeah, she's never had luck with RDR.
Hopefully that changes this weekend.
I saw him on the streets of Des Moines
when we were there and gave him knuckles.
So shout out to him.
Maybe that transference, like, did something there.
No, because then he beat Bo Nicol that night.
And you bet on Bo?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, heavy.
And it's like one of those hindsight lines, it's just like, this fucking goes.
Minus 300 against RDR, and I fucking put them at every parlay.
I deserve to lose that one.
That's the main event.
Parlay.
Osama Pekoyev, I think he goes to the wrestling, and then over one and a half in Jasmine, and the Cheeto fights.
I like those a lot.
Two very durable fighters on both sides who don't get a ton of finishes.
Those are the bets.
Those are the picks.
UFC, Vancouver.
One last week on Rio.
Let's start a winning streak.
in Vancouver
rolling into UFC
321
you've been one away
each time though
oh and parley bows
yeah
we're always one away
we're gonna lose
15 straight
and then we'll lose
another 9 straight
and then we'll lose another 9 straight
and then we'll win one
and it's just we suck
we're terrible
it's hard to hit a four like parlor
well you know
we also like
we never collectively
as a team you know
put in the work
there's always one person
who's like hey
just give me
you know
who's that person
Frank Frank already
hit the Who Me? All right, let's go to our pound for pound rankings for this week.
Best 12-month runs, inspired by Marab de Vosvili's 2025. We're talking about the best 12-month
runs we have seen in MMA history. We're not talking about a calendar year. We are talking about
September 25th to September 24th the next year. That gives you a lot more wiggle room
for impressive runs. And man, there are some crazy ones. I'm very excited to talk about this one.
The history of the game. I don't think a single one of mine happened. Yeah, not a single one
mine happened in a calendar year. So you get a much different perspective than when you're looking
at just the calendar years. Frankie, what's the order, brother? The order is January, February,
no, the order will start with me, then it'll go to you, and then Rick will finish us off.
All right. I think this is going to be good. I think it's going to be great discourse, and I think
we're also going to have some good honorable mentions. Love it. Love to hear it. I actually
went by calendar year instead of 12 months. I mean, it qualifies. Yeah. So mine is Shogun in 2005.
Okay.
So he starts off, he gets the Pride middleweight, knocks out Rampage,
then offers two, you know, a TKO and a KO and the Pride final conflict that year.
And then kind of following along that with my number four is John...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second.
I just want to say something.
So proud of you, Frankie.
Pride poll, number five?
Yeah.
I love this.
I love this.
Warms my heart.
But this feeds into my number four, which is John Jones in 2011.
Yeah.
Because he gets the light heavyweight from Shokun, right?
But then he defends his belt and finishes Rampage.
So that goes to kind of my, almost my bell curve here, Dakota in 2024, four fights, four finishes, gets the flyweight world championship.
Wow.
Wow.
2024 Dakota Dichima over 2011, John Jones, in 2005, Shogun, Noah.
Just saying, I'm a little bit newer to everything, right?
Then we get my number two is Izzy in 2020, defends the middleweight from UL, defends a
against Paul Acosta.
But then Poetan takes number one for his 2022.
He knocks out Strickland, wins against Bruno Silva,
and then takes that belt away from Izzy.
Wins against Bruno Silva, then knocks out, Strickland,
then takes the belt.
Okay.
All right.
You're next.
It's not a bad list.
If you just, like, flipped it upside down.
Is that what you're listed?
It'd actually be pretty great.
But also, you know what?
It ain't far away.
The effort, you know.
No, I like the pride.
I like the pride there.
I love the pick of 05 Shogun, but putting Lisa Malden, Chelsea Hackett,
Jenna Bishop, Tyler Santos run above Rampage, Liotto, Machita, Rashad Evans, Vitor Belfort.
It's tough.
It's tough.
Okay.
It's tough.
All right.
Over to me.
My number five, a man who was able to get four title defensive within a 12-month run.
just not in the calendar year, and I'm going all the way back to the early 2000s.
I'm going with Tito Ortiz, December of 2000 to September of 2001, only took him nine months.
In that span, he headlines, UFC 29, UFC 30, takes off 31, UFC 32, and UFC 33.
You can see the lineup right there.
You can count over and Tanner Elvis Sinozik.
Gets finishes in the first three, all in the first round, ends up not getting the finish in the final
fight, but four title defenses,
unbelievable nine-month span for the Huntington Beach, bad boy.
Look at the shorts.
I know modern fans only know him as a meme, but there was a point where Tito was just
like a monster.
He was a caring the organization.
Headline 29, 30, 32, and 33.
Yeah.
Four of five paper views.
Absolutely.
Insane work by him.
Insane.
Not even 12 months.
Nine months.
December of 2000 to September of 2001.
That man must have been on a high of no highs.
of all highs. Number four, similar to Frank, the John Jones 2011, but I'm actually going to take it
September of 2011 to September of 2012. He sneaks in on this 12-month run by just two days.
He also, four title defenses, Rampage, Leota Machita, Rashad Evans, Vitor Bellfort,
finishes all but one of them as well in this one, doing this at 24 and 25 years old.
The pictures that came out of this, I believe that's Rampage right there.
This one, the sleeping.
Like, are you kidding me?
Against absolute legends of the game at this point.
By the way, shout out Yahoo Sports.
Shout out to Yahoo Sports, taking over the game.
Unreal run from September in 2011 to 2012 by John Jones.
Number three.
Connor McGregor, December of 2015 to November of 2016.
The only reason that this is not number one,
is because he has a loss in there,
but the just sheer cultural impact
that this run had on the sport of MMA
and the world as a whole.
K.O. Zaldo in 13 seconds.
Featherway, by the way,
wins the featherway belt in 13 seconds,
goes up to Welterweight to take on Nate Diaz
in a massive fight.
All of these headlining UFC, of course.
All of these are headlining.
Which was a short notice that he accepted.
A gazillion buys on pay-per-view.
Short-notice, accepts it. Doesn't get it done.
Gets his get back in all.
August gets it done there by majority of decision.
Oh, yeah, and then we're going to go to 155,
headline the first ever MSG show,
also become the first ever double champion in UFC history.
Like, this is peak right here.
Like, this is the peak of all peaks, right here, November 20th.
This is the peak of MMA.
Yeah, like this, you're at MSG, you've got a double champion.
You've got a super duper duper star on your hands.
The only reason that that is not number one is because he had the loss to an A. Diaz,
but the impact that that run had was something that we have not seen since,
and I don't know if we will ever see again.
Number two, your number five, I believe, Frankie.
I'm going to go with Shogun Hua from October 2004 to October of August of 2005,
6-0, wins the Pride 205 Grand Prix, Rampage, Lil Nog, Overeem, and Ream, and Ricardo, and Ricardo,
Corona in the same night. The pictures that also came out of this one, similar to the John Jones, also, I know that it was, you know, 10 minute rounds or whatever it was, first round finish, first round finish, first round finish, first round finish, first round finish. Decision against a little knock. The pictures that came out of this, from the pride era, like, diving, like look at this. This is full on, this looks like a football picture right here. Absolutely insane. The dive right there. The stomps. Insane run. Legendary making.
running. Yeah, we got the stomps. Like, this is just crazy. Grabbing the rope, the soccer kicks.
Unreal run. Unreal run. Gets the massive oversized pride trophy with the pride belt.
Amazing stuff from Shogun Who. And then that leads me to my number one, much more recent.
Similar to your number one, Frankie, but I'm not going with this 2022. I'm going with his July
2023 to his July
2024 and that
is won Alex Poetotan Pereira. Debues
at 205 against former
champion Jan Blahovich. Gets the
dub. Goes on to headline
Madison Square Garden against
former champion Yuri Prohashka.
Gets the finish. Gets the belt.
Gets the dub. Goes on
to headline UFC
300 against former champion
Jamal Hill gets the knockout,
gets the dub. Oh, yep.
Call Poetan.
Goes to headline International Fight Week against former champion, Uri Prohashka once again,
gets the knockout, gets the dub, 4-0 against all former champions.
And along the way, makes his debut at 205, gets the belt at 205,
headlines MSG, UFC 300, and International Fight Week.
Insane generational run.
That is my five.
Yeah, and some overlap there, right?
Like the Shogun and Jones for you two, like are pretty consistently,
mentioned in a lot of these.
Respect. Very, very well done.
All right, I'm going to kick mine off with one that with a little bit of extra help
could have been even crazier.
But I went with Amanda Nunes from March of 16 onward, which includes her wins over
Ronda Rousey, Misha Tate, and Valentina Shevchenko.
If you extended it a little bit in either direction, you could have added like a Pennington
or in the other way, in the other direction.
You get a Sarah McMahon,
but this is a three-fight streak
that I think is one of the top
like 12-month stretches
in women's MMA.
I looked into Amanan Nunez.
If you make it from just,
you have it starting in March 2016,
obviously, it just goes to 12 months.
If you extend it to July 2019,
Valentina,
finishes Misha Tate,
finishes Ronda,
Valentina again,
finishes Rockout Pennington,
finishes Chris Cyborg,
finishes Hollyholm.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
The Nunes.
championship run was ridiculous, truly ridiculous.
May never see anything like it again in women's amendment.
And the only thing stopping her from being even more recognized and higher on this list is just
that there's less frequent women's fights.
If she was able to compete as much as the men did, she would have been dominating this
list because on that run, she was absolutely incredible.
So shout out to the lioness, shout out to Amanda Nunes.
My number four, it's the same one as you.
It's the Connor McGregor run.
It's the one that includes the Aldo, the loss to Nate, the win over Nate, and then the Eddie Alvarez fight.
Magic.
Just truly a magical time, the pinnacle of our sport, the best, the highest peak of achievement in this sport was when Connor McGregor did that double champ on the heels of finishing, of getting his get back against Nate, on the heels of knocking out Aldo in 13 seconds.
There will never be another.
There will never be a moment like that.
There will be some that, like, feel big and come close.
that was the pinnacle of achievement in MMA at that moment
and probably forever.
Number three, so here's where I'm pulling one
that we haven't quite touched on yet.
This one's going back a little deeper.
This one is Fador, the legendary Fadour Amelianenko,
from December 03 a year onward.
Basically, I didn't do like an end point that was a fight.
I just did like the year.
Like we'll end at the year point.
And so here's what Fader was able to do in that stretch.
Eugene Nagata, TKO, Mark Coleman, sub, Kevin Randleman, sub, Noya Ogawa, sub, Big Nog, no contest. There was a clash of heads. Big Nog unanimous decision. At the time, these are like the names of, like, Coleman, Randleman, Big Nog is like, yo, like you're obviously the guy. Then, you know, from the years subsequent to this, we start to get into the Fedor, Crow, Cop. Like, now even more names start to enter the fray.
and it becomes where they're facing off.
But man, to have, like, it could have been two wins over Big Nog.
The reason that they rebook this was because part of it was a tournament.
So now they had to book, rebook Fador and Big Nog.
But to get to cap that year off with a win over Big Nog, that's five wins in six fights,
one of them in no contest.
Like, that was some special stuff.
If you look at any, like, slice of Fador years, you could go a year before, you could go a year after.
He's going to have some crazy stuff going on there.
But Fador was untouchable at that time.
and then number two and number one
I think are going to be pretty obvious
at this point number two
was the John Jones
February 2011 to February
2012 run basically that title one
I shifted mine a little bit
you shifted yours back
let me see where I had it
I'm going to bring up John
Barrett yeah I went September 11 to September 12
so you went you wanted the Rashad Evans
and the Vitor in there
I went the other way where I wanted
Ryan Bader
in there so this
the one I have ends up being
Bader sub, Shogun, TKO
because I thought Bader and Shogun were probably
better wins than
Rashad and Vitor. Bader sub,
Shogun TKO, Rampage Sub,
Leoto Sub. That also happens
to be a calendar year. That is within
a calendar year. His 11 and
12 is insane. His everything
during that time.
Beat Bader,
who was at the time the other Uber
prospect that was basically
John Jones was pretty obvious
but there was a point where it was like
Bader versus Jones was the conversation around
who is going to be the star of MMA in the future
and then John Jones just blew the doors off Bader
and obviously we saw how that went
the Shogun win was mind-blowing
stepped in for teammate Rashad Evans
took him out and goes on to become champion
and then to do what he did to Rampage
and Machita in subsequent fights
it was hard to top that but only one man
cut to top that I actually think I might have
given Jordan the wrong years, but let me look back at it real quick. It's Shogunhua. It's Shogunhuah in that
05 pride run. But I extended it maybe a little bit differently. I might have like dropped one
fight that I could have that you had. But Kanihara, Rampage, Little Nag, Overeem, Ricardo
Arona. Again, like I was talking about with Fador, this at the time is cream of the crop stuff
and the way that he was doing it,
the way that he was just dispatching of every TKO, TKO, TKO,
unanimous decision over Little Nog
in a fight of the century type fight.
TKO, KO, K, O, like, Shogun was untouchable.
And that's why when people look back at, like,
the Shogun John Jones thing,
I'm like, yeah, you guys don't really know what Shogun was.
Like, to do what John Jones did to Shogun was pretty incredible,
considering what Shogun had been able to do in the past,
that run was magical.
And so, yeah, Shogun and Jones, I think, are probably like the unanimous best years calendar-wise or 12-month stretch in U.S.E history.
Shout out to him.
Sorry, MMA history.
That's a solid list.
That is a solid list.
Yeah, I do feel like those runs by those two guys are pretty unbelievable.
But lest we forget, 24 Dakota Dishua.
Shout out to Dakota.
Is he two wins.
2020, Alex Pereira.
Did you have some honorable mentions?
Oh, I sure did.
I do. I sure do. What do you got? The Amanda Nune's run is just crazy. One that could be interesting, Josh Van.
Whoa, what? Tell me.
Him making his run from September 2024 to June 2025. He's 5-0. He has the chance to win five fights in a calendar year if he beats Pantosia and go from unranked to second youngest champion in UFC history and in Pantosier's run if he wins in December.
Okay. Where does Marab rank?
he does it. If he beats
Piotr-Yon, where does that 12-months rank?
So it's interesting because
several of these guys have four title defenses
in a 12-month span.
Yeah.
Like, does it go above 11 Jones?
I don't think so.
I don't think it goes above Shogun either.
I'll be honest. I think it's a conversation with 11
Jones. I think it's actually a conversation.
Because I think any of those four Marab wins
is better than the Bader one.
Okay.
What about his four title defenses?
Rampage Machita, Evans, Belfort.
I rate the Bader and Shogun over the V-Tor and-E-Tor.
Even with where Shogun was at in his career.
Yeah, yeah, even then.
I think we, like, everybody loves to shit on John Jones.
We have to, hold on, let me go back to where.
I'll tell you exactly where Shogun was at in his career.
Some other ones, the aforementioned earlier in the show.
Chris Weidman, July 2013, July 2014, becomes undefeated champion by snapping Anderson Silva's
record 16-fight win streak, beats him again, obviously the leg injury, and then beats Leotomychita.
Not a bad run.
Not a very good run.
Sean Strickland, December 22 to September 23, loses to Imovob or loses to cannoneer, fights
Imavov, beats Abbas, and then gets the coincidental Israel-A-Saniat, title shot capitalizes on it.
goes from a loss to Canaanator to being the world champion.
That's a pretty, as far as like unexpected ones, that's a pretty great one.
All right, so here's what happened with Shogun.
Since that magical 2015, we're going to, we're going to bridge the gap between,
sorry, between the magical 2005 and the 2011 John Jones fight.
We're going to bridge the gap.
I'm going to tell you what happened in that time.
There's a loss to Mark Coleman due to a broken arm, but then TKO over Cyril Diabate
beats Kevin Randleman, beats Nakamura, beats Overeem,
lost to Forrest Griffin in a huge shocking upset,
comes back, beats Coleman, beats Chuck Ladell,
loses a very janky decision to Leota Machita,
gets revenge against Leoto Machita,
and then loses to John Jones.
So outside of breaking his arm,
a janky decision against Leoto Machita
and the upset lost to Forrest Griffin,
like Shokun was still Shogun at this point.
So this revision of history,
people are like, John beat like washed guys. Rampage was washed. Shogun was washed. Everybody was
washed. Rashad was washed by then, even though Rashad was fully in his prime. It's, it's complete
nonsense. Glover Tashira was 10 years away from when he would actually become a champion when
John Jones beat him. This idea that all these guys were washed is complete bullshit.
Some honorable mentions for me. Also, Shogun ended up fighting in the UFC for 13 more
fights and 12 more years. Yeah, exactly. So, I,
I am very offended, but when people do this, like, revisionist history about John Jones.
Okay, two honorable mentions for me.
Crow cop from May of 2004 and a year extended from there.
Wins over Kanihara, Oiyama, Alex Emiliaenko, Fador's brother.
Josh Barnett, Kevin Randleman, Mark Coleman.
It's a pretty nasty run, and there's some other crow crop runs that are equally impressive.
Henry Suhudo from August 18 to August 19 beats Demetrius Johnson,
beach T.J. Dillashaw, who at the times are probably like their respective,
like two of the best in those divisions at any given time,
and then knocks out Marlon Mariahs as well.
Now, there will be some who will kind of call into question that DJ fight and say,
did Henry actually win that fight?
But if you're just looking at what's on wax,
Suhudo beat DJ, T.J. and Marias in a one-year span,
which is pretty gnarly stuff.
I also, after I had completed my list,
I ended up not changing anything from my list,
but I did reach out to the scribe, the sage,
the most wise man I know when it comes to this MMA history stuff, Kaposa,
and he had some ones that...
Oh, I'd love to hear this.
God, I'd love to hear this.
That I considered, I looked at,
but I ultimately did not end up putting on my list.
They didn't knock any of mine off.
There was a run by Takenori Gomi,
who...
That name doesn't mean anything to you,
but he was widely considered
like the best lightweight
for a solid period of time.
There was a period in there
from December 04 to December 05
where he had six
he had six wins
including knockouts over Azaredo,
Sakurai,
Kawagiri and Jens Pulver
winning a Grand Prix.
Again, at the time,
these are the names.
Like these are the guys,
especially Jens obviously
and Kawajiri and even Sakurai.
Like these are the names of the era
and he was,
like untouchable at that time.
Vanderlea Silva from November
03, shot out to Coposo by the way.
He did this off dome, I think.
Vanderlea Silva from November of 03 to
November, like basically October
or November of 03, 5 and 0
winning the Grand Prix. It includes
the most
significant one of the rampage
fights because there were multiple
Vanderley and Rampage was a huge rivalry
and pride and it had one of the most
significant ones, the one that ended with him
basically throwing Rampage through the
ropes that was in that that was in that stretch big nog went six and oh from february o one to
february two wins including mark coleman heath herring ensign in a way claimed the the pride
heavyweight title the inaugural the inaugural belt and he kind of had like an insane 2020 as well
josie aldo from november 08 to november 09 5 and 0 with five stoppages this is when
when Aldo was like really Aldo.
I know like Cub Swanson's in there.
Mike Brown is in there.
Maybe Uriah Faber might be in that stretch.
There was quite a bit of Josie Aldo dominance in that stretch.
Habib from October 18 to October 19.
Three title defenses, McGregor, Pori, Gachie.
That's not bad.
It's not bad.
And then Dan Henderson's 2011 got the Strike Force belt,
knocked out Fador, fought Shogun in another like potentially fight of the century type
fight so Dan Henderson had a good 2011 but shout out to shout out to Kaposa for providing some of those
didn't knock any of mine off the list probably there's something on there that could have edged
Amanda but I did want to give her recognition because like the three wins that she had in that
stretch are very hard to come by for women considering the activity level that the UFC has for them
and I thought she was incredible at that moment shout to Kaposa man that's that's I love the history
like I love getting into stuff like this and who would know better
in Caposa.
Don Frye, 1996.
Oh shit, tell me.
11 fights.
10 and 1 won them all by finish,
won the UFC 8 tournament,
won the UFC 11.5 tournament.
Can you name even one of the opponents?
Would you recognize even one of the opponent's names?
I think the one loss was the Mark Coleman.
Okay, there you go.
Neil Magne went 7-0 over a 15-month span.
That's still nuts.
It's crazy.
In the UFC, in 2014, 2015, 15 months, he went 7-0.
That is actually crazy.
Kevin Holland and Neil Magny have some bananas ones.
That would be like someone started in July of 24, which is not that long ago.
Let's say they started on UFC 304, the Tom Aspinall card, the last time Tom Aspinall fight.
And then they're fighting next week.
Oh, my God, this is actually a perfect comparison.
And then they're fighting again next weekend, Tom Aspinall.
Fight to fight UFC 3040, UFC 321.
Tom Aspenall, that will be two fights.
Imagine someone going for 7 and 0 in that time span.
That's what Neil Magny was able to do.
Yeah, you are fighting twice a month every single – sorry, not twice a month.
You're fighting every two months consistently.
Crazy.
That's pretty nuts.
Every two months.
We'd be like, no down.
This guy is 6 and 0 since the last time Tom Aspinall fighting.
Now he's fighting again on the same card.
Bananas.
Shout out Neil Magney
Most wins Welterweight history
You can see why when he goes on runs like that
He's going to have some stats that are going to be
Like when people look at the history book
Neil fucking Magny
No no opposite
We're going to be watching a TikTok
Or whatever the TikTok equivalent is
10 years from now
Where somebody's like
How is nobody talking about how Neil Magny
is the greatest fighter of all time
Like that's what's actually going to be the conversation
Shout out Neil Magny
Sleeper little Steve Urseg
June 2023 to May 24
Makes the US
debut, then goes on three straight, David DeVorek, Alessandro Costa, Matt Schnell,
not that crazy in names, but he gets the title shot and comes one round short, one takedown
short of beating Alessandro Fentosa. If he beat Pantosia, I think that's up there. That's like
in the combo. Kevin Holland from May 2020 to April 2021, seven fights, but went five and two.
Still crazy. Still crazy. That he's seven fights in 12 months, and right now he's looking to go six
in 2025 is absolutely
insane. Nobody puts up numbers
like Kevin Holland. Nobody.
Rose from April 2017 to April
2018 went Michelle Waterson and Yawanna
twice. Not bad.
That's pretty good. Not bad. I think that's
everyone I got though. This one was fun, man.
It was fun to go through the history. It was nice to
dig back to history. I ended up in the
point where I assumed I would
which is the runs by
Shogun, the run by Shogun in 05
and the run by John Jones in 2011
are just like in a pantheon
that is like so hard to touch
and boys walking around back then
it must have been
talking about feeling yourself
if Marab wins
in December
I'm willing to have a conversation
that I think he enters the territory
four title defenses against
top top top top
guys I'm willing to at least
have a conversation about it
I think there's a case to be made
about the eclipsing the Jones one
also if he wins
that'll be five title fight wins
for him
15 wins in a row, man.
He'll be one short of
of Anderson Silva at that point.
Nuts.
Islamakashov in a couple weeks.
Although I will say the one thing,
the Umar fight
was competitive
in a way that the runs by Shogun and John Jones
were not.
These were curb stompings.
Like, they were just wrecking everybody.
So I do think that that matters.
But man, like,
if I'm assigning a value,
like let's say this was done by
like assign a points value,
you, a close fight over Umar where you pull away at the end to me means more than
starching Ryan Bader. I just, I just rate Umar higher as a top tier, uh, championship level
contender. And so it gets into the nitty gritty of that. I think there's arguments that could
be made, but it will also depend. How do you beat Peodorian? If you blank him the way you did
the first fight, yeah, like that's going to be a pretty damn impressive achievement. If you even
finish them, now we're talking like different, different sauce. But I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm ready to have the conversation
I don't think anyone's going to be crazy
It'd be crazy
Absolutely nuts
Yeah man
It's not gonna be the biggest
Selling pay-review of all time
That's for sure
But like I cannot wait
I can't wait for these
For these last three dude
The
The Hamzat
DDP was my Super Bowl
This is my NBA finals
This is my like
I can't wait for it man
To get to get Van versus Pantosia
And Mara versus Jan on the same card
For me is like
This is Christmas
This is a late Christmas
Or early Christmas
Did you miss?
Tattoo
early.
Tatsuu-O-Tire
Brennan
is legit too
man.
Yeah,
these last three
pay-per-views.
Aspenol
fighting.
So, like,
that's the Super Bowl,
uh,
as is 322.
If you're not watching
you're a casual,
sorry,
that's,
I don't make the rules.
You're just,
you're just a fucking casual.
If you're not watching U.S.
322.
And then 323 is a banger as well.
If the chat has any other runs,
drop them in there.
Drop,
drop, drop, drop,
we'll try and do it by the end of the,
we'll try and do it by the end of the end of,
like look these up.
Yeah.
Boss Rutan and Pancreis went 7 and 0 with seven finishes.
Once you start going back, there are some ones like that.
There was another Crow Cop run that was probably pretty nuts as well.
I mean, you're never going to get me to talk bad about Boss Ruden.
He was the star of the show in Smashing Machine.
Smashing Machine.
So shout out to him.
I'm sure there's some.
Yeah, see, this doesn't quite span.
This one doesn't quite, like, you could do an 09 to 2010, which is Struve, Crow Cop, Gilbert, Ival,
if you're doing JDS, but nah, it doesn't quite hit.
Let me look at this boss written one real quick
before we move on to voicemails.
El Guapo.
Boss is the freaking man.
I mean, what even year was it?
Like, good Lord, he was putting up numbers
when he came to fights from, my God,
from December, dude, starting in September of 1993,
he had, from September of 1993,
to December of 1997 so I guess that's five years he had 28 professional fights that's six a year almost
that's fucking insane yeah and he went 23 four and one over that stretch those guys used to get busy
and also uh there's tournaments and things like that um Dutch like Dutch guys the kickboxers
in particular you know how like whenever we talk about Alex and Izzy and how they were
like super active a lot of it harkens back to in kickboxing you're fighting every month every two
months like that's just how that goes is he has a hundred i think it is i think a hundred kickboxing
fights or no now he has like over a hundred uh combat sports fights but the majority of those
kickboxing kickboxers man they they they get them in they just get the activity about the tournaments
you didn't not a single one tournament yeah every one of them is on separate nights nuts
man i i wish i had time to like really dig into boss to to like the boss to like the boss
run because there's there's some where he's fighting on March 22nd then he's fighting again on
April 27th like I bet there had boss on the show while you worked here uh I think one time
he's the fucking man he's the fucking man good time only losses to the shamrocks yeah
Ken twice Frank once and uh masakatsu Funaki in 1994 little toll hold action I might see if
there's any like docs on Utah oh there's there's video there's videos with boss
boss well tell you all about boss there's there's
plenty of stuff out there's good for the bald brand too shout out the boss man
absolute illusion looking good still looking looking great if i can look half as good at boss
as at his age uh i mean just the ripe age of uh of 60 if i can look that good at 60 you know
what's a tell me you look good without telling me you look good when you play yourself in a movie of
yourself from three decades ago yeah shout at the boss root man uh frankie we got any voicemails
anyone leave one oh we should know voice mails
Ahoy, hoi, hoi.
Boys in the back.
Dear guy, Matt from Nashville.
Hey, what up, Matt?
It's 427 driving into work this morning.
What time is where to start, bro?
I woke up with Return of the Mac, stuck in my head so hard.
Return of the Mac.
Because it's Thursday, because I'm stoked about the boys in the back being on today.
You guys should just, you know, maybe replace your theme song sometimes from the,
bu, but, but, but, boys.
Wow.
something like
boys in the back
to the tune
of Return of the Mac
The Boys in the Back
A little something like this
Some boys in the Mac
The Boys in the Back
I actually like this
And the boys are in the back
Reminders, this is 427 a.
Anyways, love you guys
On the way to work
My guy
I love that idea
Matt from Nashville
Bringing the Energy
Shout out. That's a great call and a great idea.
The pipes aren't bad. Matt, not bad.
Frankie, yeah. I mean, if we could get an HD recording from Matt of him doing that, we could mix that up.
Hey, boys. This is Diego. I'm a student at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism in that communication.
And I'm someone who really wants to get into combat sports journalism.
I love listening to you guys every week heading into classes, every month.
morning so it's been great my question for you is of course the smashing machine a great film on
the life of mark cur what fighter from this era do you think could be a real contender for having a
big film down the line i think perera which you might say is recency bias is a great pick and of course
francis and ghanu how you can not say him so let me know what you think uh appreciate the call shout
to the walter kronkite school shout to arizona state uh forkum is that is that
forks up.
Forks up.
Something like that.
Shout out, me and my discombobulated finger.
It's as straight as it goes.
What happened?
I almost cut it off.
Speaking of Shogun, who was 2005?
In my 2005, I cut this down to the bone,
cut every nerve and tendon, couldn't feel a thing.
The first I've heard of this.
Seriously?
Yeah.
Had to have a surgery.
Yeah, like look at how straight this pink is.
Look at that.
It's freaky.
This is as straight as it'll possibly go.
It's even hooked this way, too.
Like, if you show it front-wise, it's like curve.
yeah yeah it's Connor if you ever become a pirate can we just call you like crooked
it's actually like really fucked like this uh yeah this and then uh a few years ago I was at a
wedding and I was in charge of opening a bottle of wine and I was like pulling it open and
didn't notice that the wine was like lifting up off of the counter because I was pulling so hard
no one could get this thing open finally it opens and like hand goes up with the cork
other hand goes down with the bottle completely smashes
on the countertop, my hand goes through it, same pinky, cut to shit.
I was a part-time employee at ESPN at the time, and I had dog shit health insurance,
and I was like, no, I was like, I can't go to the hospital, like, it's going to cost so much
money, pulling up blood. I try to make it stop bleeding for like 45 minutes. It never stops.
End up having to get like 13 stitches. Same pinky could barely even feel it, because like,
this feels like my hands like asleep. It's a trip, so yeah. Pinky's been through a lot.
So you have a loss of some sensation.
here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, dude, for like years after the surgery, like legitimately
was just like static. Wow. It was like fuzzy, yeah. Oh, yeah. The fact that you're even, you have
the like mobility to like bend it. Dude, when I cut it, I was like 13. When I cut it on a knife,
I was like, fucking around being done with a knife. Cut it open. And I was like,
oh, like one of my friends was like, are you all right? I was like, yeah, why? And he's like,
look at your hand. Pools of blood. Pools of blood. Because I couldn't feel it because I cut all the
Yeah, why. Oh, your fingers are. And I was just like, oh!
I was like, oh, fuck.
And I thought it was going to come off.
So I bent it back, and the bone, like, stuck out.
And I was like, oh, fuck, someone help me.
Someone help me on my fingers going to fall off.
I'd, like, legit thought I was going to die.
I was freaking out so much.
Even though I couldn't feel anything, blood is just spilling out of my head.
I'm, like, 13, freaking out.
I was at a camp, too.
Had to go to a hospital.
They had to, like, glue it shut.
And then they fucking dragged my ass back to camp,
and I had to sleep in this, like,
dirty nasty tent didn't keep you overnight no it's dirty at nasty ass tent just with my hand just
like glued together crazy time people used to be tough back then you know it's I mean I was I was
I was crying like a bitch yeah but I just mean like throw some dirt on it throw you back to camp
like literally they glued it shut and they were like all right send them back to the dirty tent
maybe hopefully it won't get infected we'll trust the 13 year old to not get infected love it uh what stories
will create movies, that wouldn't make a bad movie.
A nice little short about me, almost in my hand.
Fighters, though.
Francis feels like the number one for me.
That's like the go-to.
Who else can make a good one, man?
I mean, like, maybe like this...
It felt like a multi-franchise Pereira,
Adasania rivalry movie, kind of rocky style.
That's not a bad show.
Become friends.
You know what I wouldn't mind that might be interesting
is like the rise of the Dagestanis.
You sort of have like the whole tribe.
Is it the name of the movie, too?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, the name is called Father's Plant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow, Jordan's cooking right now.
The Rise of the Dagestanis.
Jordan's about to start producing.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that a lot, Jordan.
Yeah, I would go with that one.
I'm racking my brain as other ones.
The key to these is it's going to be obvious
if it's like they're good in the ring, right?
You have to have some kind of like stories beyond that.
You've got to have the crazy story beyond it, yeah.
That's a good question.
That's why Francis is so nice.
Oh, God, yeah.
It's a great one.
Boys in the back, what's good.
Hollywood.
J.D. calling from Austin, Texas, Bay.
Hey, shout out.
Shout out, Sam Ellinger.
We're back.
So last week, you guys did the pound for pound borough's list, and it inspired this call
because next week, my wife and I are traveling to New York for the first time ever.
We are staying in Queens, so it's pretty high when we're headed as number one.
And then I got brought back down a little bit when Frank and G.C. were shitting on it.
So, yeah, it's tough.
Yeah, not going to have much accessible.
By the way, it's all good.
We're going to be moving around, seeing this, seeing that.
The question is, could you give me your number one must go to grab a bite-to-eat place in your borough?
I think each of you had a different borough.
Wow, we do.
So just number one, nothing too fancy, no reservation required, just popping in.
grabbing a bite saying fuck
that's delicious shout out action
shout out action
um
that's it
appreciate you guys
uh love your show
look forward to it every week
peace
uh first of all
enjoy your trip to new york city
second of all
you know we kind of got shit on for that one
I think we bounced back though
I think we bounced back for the good one
this was MMA very heavy
a lot of people did not fail to let me know that they don't give
a fuck about the burrows i was like all right
I got it
yeah they're jealous the Bronx
that's exactly what a New Yorker would say they're jealous
and they're like no no no no no jealous
I legitimately don't care about New York City
no they're jealous best number one place to get a bite to eat dude
there's so many and like the difficult thing is you do Manhattan though
yeah yeah you're saying you're saying no reservations man
that's that's difficult dude that's difficult
I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with because you're an MMA fan
go to the old Tbilisi Garden speaking of Maraub
I've been craving some Georgian food lately
Get you the Kachapori, the dumplings, the breadboat filled with cheese.
Yeah, shout out.
That's where I'm going to go with Old Tbilisi Garden.
Branky, we got like a Brooklyn one?
Yeah, go to a rosy pizza bar out in East Williamsburg.
I like it.
You're going to be in Queens.
You're blessed.
You're a lucky man.
Just head to Flushing.
There's a section of Queens called Flushing.
It's got every Asian type of food that you could want.
I would dare say better than Chinatown.
in terms of the options there and just walk around.
You'll find a spot.
They've got Shanghai, they got Taiwanese, they got Chinese, they've got Japanese, they've got the romans,
they've got the sushi's, they've got Korean food.
You will find any type of Asian food.
Maybe do a dim sum, maybe find like a nice banquet hall, do a dim sum there.
But even more than that, like depending on the weather, you can walk around.
There's cart food.
There's all kinds of things.
spend some time in flushing grab some Asian food there's there's no shortage of it if you're
even close go back multiple times but that's that's always my tip if you're new if you're in
new york go to flushing and just walk around the good news is is anywhere new york i mean
manhattan queen's brooklyn you can go anywhere and and get excellent food this i used to always
be like oh yeah the food here is all right now that i've like really learned the food here
is unbelievable because of the vast amount of different types of food you can get and it be
top top top notch uh just in
It's incredible.
I've never been a fan of the like, what's the best slice in New York debate?
Because my thing about New York is anywhere you go on any corner, other than like the dollar slice and even sometimes those, the pizza is going to be great.
New York's thing is you can walk one block any direction and you will find some good food anywhere.
That's kind of the key.
My number one tourist thing, Empire State Building.
Shout out right behind us.
Favorite building, ESB, favorite building in the city.
We are going to take another quick break back.
with the rest of your voicemails.
I'm going to attempt to do the unthinkable
and run to the bathroom
during the commercial break.
Will I accomplish it?
We'll find out.
Stick around.
We'll be right back.
Welcome back.
I made it back.
He made it back.
He did, even though we started on my single.
There he is.
Look, he's in the chair.
It is possible.
All right.
I don't know if Frank had the mics up
if they can hear you screaming
as you can hear the door open.
You should have seen everyone in the office.
I am hauling ass through it
because I can get in my ear
like how much time we have left.
Wow, wash the hands and everything.
In three, two.
We made, we made.
Good job, Connor.
Yo, boys in the back.
What's good, bro?
It's Jimmer.
Jimmer.
So next week, my little brother,
his brother right underneath me, is getting married,
and he's made me the best man in the wedding.
Grats here, brother.
Sick.
I have the honors of giving a speech in front of 100 people,
And let's just say, besides doing these voicemails,
Jimmer isn't necessarily the best public speakers.
So I was just wondering if you guys had any advice,
have you ever done anything like this,
you know, just any general advice you give to me
about speaking in front of a large group of people.
But anyways, I have a question this week.
Frankie, Mario, or Zelda?
All right, deuces, love you guys.
Why don't we start there, Frankie?
What's the answer?
Actually, we were having a little bit of a production conversation back here.
Mario or Zelda?
Zelda all the way.
All the way.
You too?
All the time go.
Love Mario.
64 Sunshine.
Galaxy.
Love Mario.
But Zelda, dude, it's on top.
I think I'm probably Mario, but just so.
Like, edges it out.
Those are two top tier franchises.
Working through tiers of the kingdom right now.
Oh, yeah.
Where'd you get that?
Thanks, Frankie.
Frankie got it from our 30th birthday.
Frank, go back to not paying attention.
No presents on my 31st.
No presents on my 32nd.
It's all good, though.
Would you say, Rick?
I said, go back to not paying attention.
It was better.
Advice for public speaking.
Yeah, I mean, like, I'm not going to sit here and be like the guy who's like,
oh, imagine them all in their underwear.
Like, just know that like you're going to have like the nerves when you get up there.
It's just like unavoidable.
Even if you're like you're not scared of it.
Like you're going to have like butterflies.
You're going to get up there and there's going to be a ton of people looking back at you.
Like you just have to accept that and know that you'll be a little bit nerve.
You kind of embrace that energy to put you on one.
And then just remember like, no one really.
gives a shit like there's there's two ways that it goes that they'll remember you you either bomb and
it's just like holy shit you get a load of jimmer up there yeah he completely flopped avoid that and
like you'll be fine because then if you just give a normal regular speech people will be like
oh yeah like that was a nice speech whatever or you could like absolutely kill it that takes like
some special writing and some special delivery where people are like oh that was so incredible but
like if you get that in between everyone's just going to be like oh yeah those were nice words man
Yeah, and I feel like that's almost like the landing spot you want, right?
It's like, think about your, put jimmer, take a moment and put yourself in the shoes of somebody watching one or even the people that are going to speak before you.
You're not even paying attention.
You don't give a shit.
You're looking at your lamb.
You're eating appetizers.
You're eating at a few drinks.
You're thinking about the dance floor.
Nobody's like looking that hard at you.
Now obviously, best man is a little bit elevated, right?
Like best man is a more important speech.
It's your brother too.
My tip is, and this is specific.
to these types of speeches, the type that I hate is too much inside jokes. When you do that
and like nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about and like can't tune in and can't follow
along, those are the worst types of speeches. Keep it, keep it for a general audience. Like,
keep it for like at least everybody who's there for the party is going to be able to understand
and enjoy and tell some stories and things like that. Anytime it's like inside joke, inside joke,
inside joke, inside joke, I'm just tuning out anyway. So you could do that if you don't want people to
pay attention but my tip is like just keep it broad say some nice things you love your brother
nobody's going to be watching that closely and you'll be fine if i'm writing this jim here's how i'm
going to do it you got to keep it brief three minutes maximum yeah maybe maybe even like a 90 seconds
to two minutes you start out with the high hello then you immediately hit them with a joke you keep
it real lighthearted off a rip oh this this guy jim's got jokes maybe two jokes if you can if you can
fit it in and then you transition to the sentimental like me and my brother great
Growing up, like, we had this special bond about blah, blah, blah, and it's just so great,
and I couldn't be happier, and then we met Catherine, and she's the greatest thing to ever
happened to him, and blah, you get all sentimental, and then if you really want to knock him
dead, you tie it back in at the end with one more joke, leave them laughing, and then you get
on your merry way two minutes tops, and everyone's like, that guy fucking gets it.
We love Jimmer.
You're going to kill it either way.
It's going to be great, Jimmer.
Just don't bomb, man.
Just please don't bomb, man.
Just please don't bomb.
Not like that Fugasey proposal brochure.
The voicemail sound is very zesty.
But boys in the back.
The voicemail sounds zesty?
First-time caller.
Joe Lewis, Los Angeles, L.A.
Question for you.
Your task with changing one UFC fight result
that leaves the biggest impact on the sport.
And I want you all to think critically,
so I'll take the obvious one off the table.
Connor beats to beat.
Okay.
What say you?
What say me?
Also, I don't appreciate the slander about the zesty.
If anybody sounds zesty here, Joe Lewis, it ain't us.
I mean, look at the mirror, couldn't hurt.
One change, one outcome.
I'll give you one.
Alex Pereira doesn't knock out Israel out of Sonny in the fifth round in 2022.
So he loses the fight for the belt.
He doesn't get the belt.
Izzy wins.
There's no rematch.
There's no bow and arrows.
Who knows what happens with Pereira movie?
Does he immediately get worked into a title shot at that point?
You just don't know.
That's a pretty good one.
It's hard to go higher than, like, there's nothing that's higher than Connor and Habib.
Dustin gets a belt in one of his tries.
Okay.
What about Connor McGregor beats Dustin Porrier in the rematch?
Yeah, he never breaks his leg.
Where's he at?
No, not the third one.
Oh, okay.
You're saying the second one.
The second.
So then there's never a third one, so he doesn't break his leg.
No.
And he's back.
Like the Mac is back.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's not a bad one.
I mean, they all, the biggest ones are all going to revolve around Connor if we're being
completely honest with ourselves.
The Izzy Alex one is a great one.
John Jones never fails a drug test.
Francis, I guess that counts, but I think we're just D.C.
When he has, then he has, like, the record for all these, like, lengths of title runs.
Francis Inganu loses to Cyril Ghan in his gamble
Right before a free agency loses to Cyril Gond
Is Francis and Gano still with the UFC right now?
Like there's a few that could be
I mean nothing is going to top Connor Habib
Like that is the inflection point
Of all inflection points in MMA history
Okay
Connor McGregor beats Foyne weather in a boxing match
Oh that's not a bad one
Because I was thinking what if Francis beat
if he got the nod against
Tyson Fury
but yeah
what if Connor beat Floyd
what if Connor
beat Floyd May
whether in a freaking
boxing match
that's not a bad one
they're always going to be Connor
they're always going to be Connor
they're always going to be Connor
never mind
chat's not saying long
next
what's good
boys it's your boy
Votkins
what's up
legend
quick question
and maybe only GC
can really answer this question
but we'll ask
the whole group as a whole
what is the worst heartbreak that you could absolutely go through a your sports team
you know loses a crushing defeat like a close loss or something like that in a championship game
felt that the girlfriend the girl that you really really likes this she just wants to be friends
or you guys are a girlfriend that breaks up with you or finally you mark out for a UFC fighter
and his knockout and he watches the video and says it's fake i have also felt that
break. Don't worry, GC. In the great words of REM, everybody hurts. Y'all have the best blessed
weekend. Bodkins out. Catch you all later. Fuck, that was a great call by Bodkins. That was good.
Allie Upped is straight to me and it's definitely, it's option three. Okay, but what about the first two?
Which, like, I don't feel like the sports is that gut-wrenching now. Okay. The worst most
gut-wrenching, like, cannot recreate the feeling ever is Falcons 28 to 3.
Super Bowl.
That was like a, I swear I've never had a feeling like it since or before it.
It was like, I legit, like, people like talk about like, oh, I couldn't sleep after that
loss.
I legit could not sleep after that loss.
I was like, I was at a bar.
All you could drink bar.
It was like $50 to get in downtown Atlanta.
And bro, when they scored in that overtime, like Falcons fans just started fighting Falcons
fans, like pure chaos erupted.
One of my friends just picked me up and walked me out of the bar and it was like,
let's just get a new, bro, let's get out of here.
Like, it was like pure chaos.
And then just like the whole next day, it was just like, I cannot believe this.
I was in my last semester of college.
And I had to get up and drive to Athens the next morning for an 8 a.m.
And so, like, I just didn't sleep at all.
My mom comes in.
She's like, hey, you got to start heading back to Athens.
I'm just laying there with my eyes open.
I'm just like, yeah, I guess I do, huh?
Like, get on sports radio and listen the entire way.
And they're just having people call in.
They're like giving like warnings.
They're like, don't take this out on your wife.
Don't take this out on your kids.
your boss or your co-workers, like, call in and vent to us.
Like, don't let this, like, affect your personal life or anything like that.
Like, it was, like, it was serious.
Like, it was like, we won the Super Bowl.
When we were up 28 to 3, I'm outside smoking cigs, down in beers.
I'm like, I can't fucking believe this.
We're riding all night in Atlanta.
Like, the birds won a Super Bowl.
Like, the Dick's sporting goods in Atlanta, there's video footage of it.
They put out all the Super Bowl merch, and then they had to pack it away.
Like, it's been, like, 10 years.
You know those, like, percentage?
Like, it's 99%.
Like, there's never been a more...
99.9.9. And you had to, like, slowly watch it happen,
and you could feel it when they got the two-point conversion. And then, like,
when we get the... We're in field goal range, and then we get pushed back out of it,
and you're just, like, slowly feeling it happening. You're just like, oh, my God,
it cannot be happening right now. And this was, like, Ariel always talks about how, like,
he's such a tortured fan. This was when, like, Atlanta was the tortured fan base.
Like, we had the Pop Fly Rule and the Braves. The Hawks are the number one seed to make it
to the Eastern Conference Finals, swept on out.
out of there.
Yeah, the Georgia is like the falling three-yard short in the SEC Championship
and they would have won the national championship against Sunder Dame and the two were talking
by Loa, second and 26.
Like, we were the haunted city.
There was like a whole theory that Atlanta sold its soul for the Olympics and then all their
sports teams were cursed because of it.
We got the Brazen 95 and then we get the Olympics in 96.
That's amazing.
So like the curse is just like it weighs so heavily.
So like as bad of heartbreak can get is that when it comes.
Is that worse than like a breakup?
nah because you get over it like pretty quickly like breakups stick with you for a little bit
like yeah like after like two or three weeks there would be some times in like the month falling
me and my boys would be sitting there like someone would just be like falcons really fucking blue
and everyone would be like they really blew that shit i can't believe it there's almost like a bonding
around that now though it's like trauma bonding yeah yeah yeah i would go i would go breakup work
now yerry the fighter denying you one breakup two and then uh and then uh falcons three
I got friends owned pretty bad in high school.
Yeah, a Let's Just Be Friends is rough.
To go to prom and got a Let's Just Be Friends on prom.
I was like, that's tough.
That's tough.
We ended up going to the same college and, you know, this or that happened, but it's...
This or that happened.
Prom night, I was like, ah, it's tough.
So I guess you had the last laugh then.
Technically, but yeah, prom.
This, in front of my friends took us a girl at a party and it's just like,
oh, it's like.
You know, Conor, just like, ah, I just got fucking, I got friends on, man.
James, too.
We're in this stupid-ass tuxedo.
That was great.
What's up, boys in the back?
It's Trey from South Dakota.
What's up, Trey?
That's D.
It's been in a good mood today, so I'm not going to have to cause too much of a scene.
Okay, thank you.
Thanks, Trey.
That story of Frank, from, I think it was like two episodes ago now, I'm not going to
repeat any of it but you repeat frank my i you opened up your heart to us and it opened up my heart
to you oh no i'd never feel judged for that um just listen to the the raven interview
i'm not a wrestling fan i honestly struggle to fully listen to a lot of the wrestling interviews
okay but when he started talking about fucking rug rug when he was talking about and it's
and then brought up
like the past weekend's
PFL event
dude
one of us man
it was dope
I'm gonna go back and watch
some of his wrestling matches now
dude
that's it for this week
love you guys
appreciate you try
the content
love you love South Dakota
I forget if I said it on air
or just like privately
but like
Raven was cool as shit
as a wrestler so you'll probably
have a good time watching his matches
he was so smooth
he would always like roll
in and out of the ring.
He was really, like, gangster.
It's just like, I know we talked about it last week,
but just like the cold that is MMA fandom,
that like you, just by being a diehard fan,
like you immediately become just like one of us.
Yeah, one of us.
And it's just like, I gotta go watch this guy's matches.
I love this guy.
Yeah.
Like the pop for when someone actually knows MMA
when you start talking about it with them
is a feeling like, no.
Okay.
It knows MMA at a certain level, though.
There's a threshold.
No, of course.
Like, you start talking MMA and then you're like,
if you're like Alex Per.
Yeah, it's all.
Pereira's knockout. It's just like, oh, nice. Like, yeah, you watch. Casually, you watch.
When you're like, yo, I was gutted for C-Rod, it's like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. This dude's different.
Yeah, yeah, man, when CG lost, bro, it's like, C-G?
Chris Gutierrez, like, oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. It was Gutierrez. It was C-Rod.
Yeah, it's just like the diehardness just brings you in.
Shout out, Raven. The man.
What's up, boys? Danny Breezy here from Charlotte.
Have you. Had an idea. Don't know if it's been asked before. Hopefully not.
What do you guys say on the uncrowned dime on Ariel's
black card? We all get a place out in the mountains
somewhere and all the boys in the back fans, the mailman's fight league,
everybody gets together and we just have a watch party from a cabin
somewhere. Crack open some beers. Somebody bring a couple
penjumens out there. Maybe somebody even brings Frank's mom's dad.
Who knows? Who knows of the weekend?
takes us. But I feel like we all just need to go muck around somewhere and talk about how much
Rick loves queens. Yeah, boys fucking hate queens. I don't know. Sounds like a good time. Let me know
what you guys said. Peace. Peace, brother. First of all, the fact that you weren't sure whether or not
someone had thrown that idea out there yet is kind of wild. No, no one has done that.
Second of all, I'm not sure about getting locked in a cabin in the woods with a bunch of strangers
and then taking drugs and alcohol with them that they brought.
Seems a little sketchy.
Purchasing the cabin on Hohani's card also seems like a dicey proposition.
That I'm down for it.
The black card swipes, baby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll meet you there.
We'll meet you there.
You provide the cabin, though.
Hey, man, what's up, boys, and that back?
What's all right?
Look, bro, Queens is the best borough, baby.
Shout out for me in New York, Rick.
All you guys are a bunch of haters.
Agron, Boston, baby.
God out, Ledge.
I need a hundred spots and pull all of you guys on.
So, stop talking shit about Queens.
Was it a threat?
Yes, it was.
Queens takes Queen seriously.
What's up, boys?
David, oh, showrunner.
Let's go.
I'm running a 50K.
Church race.
Jesus.
It's more than a marathon.
Nuts.
About three months ago.
And it's so hard that my body broke down and I got sing.
Yeah, believe it, man.
I went into this moment with a whole bunch of nervous energy.
At the closer and closer I got, see the start line,
closer, the more my confidence rose.
And I just say, fucking, I'm going to put my foot all the way up this racist ass.
I got shit to do.
My dad for the cursing.
Massive amount of adrenaline running through my body right now.
30 miles.
But what's the time that you're nervous to do something?
but she said screw up now let's do it anyway all right boys calm up and now one right now
legit this guy's a nut let's go baby uh first of all that guy actually is a nut second of all
incredible that he gets service out there on the trail yeah third of all I mean there's a
million times I've been nervous and just did it anyway and like almost every time you end up doing
it you don't regret it afterward and you realize like you
were nervous over, not nothing, but you could have been less nervous and it would have probably
been better. I don't know. What's the most nervous you've ever been? Nothing's coming to mind
for me. Most nervous I've ever been? I don't know. I don't know. But like, I would say a lot of
nerves and anxieties can come from like medical things. Oh yeah, for sure. Like tests and scans
and ultrasounds and stuff like that. That's usually like in day-to-day life when I get most nervous. And
almost always it's never as bad as you build it up to in your head with those though you almost don't
have the like uh let me just do it anyway choice because you're gonna do it you have to you have to kind
do it uh those are just terrible when you're sitting in the waiting room and you're just like
god i cannot wait to be walking out of you like that is gonna feel nice um that's that's one
the first ever watched party we did like three years ago i was pretty nervous for i was like man
what if this just clops uh you just fight through it you just sit down and you're like let's just do it
Yeah, you just do it.
You all, like, never have, like, can I think of a time where I was nervous, did something?
And then I was like, I wish I didn't do that.
Yeah, I'm nervous sometimes.
Like, I don't really get nervous these days, but there's been times in the past where I've been nervous to, like, send the right email or the right text and just make sure, like, did I nail this?
Yeah, even then, it's just like a bit of, like, anxiety.
And you're just like, at a certain point, at a certain point, you spend so much time building up the nerves and the anticipation that you've wasted.
You've got to just move on. You've got to just keep it going.
I try not to really let those things fester. I don't really build up anxiety like that.
I just came on the plane
I just came
to sit on the plane
but I was listening
to your show now
Rupert is he calling us on like a few
seconds ago
and I just wanted
to just tell you
it's incredible
it's incredible
incredibly funny show
Thank you George
I want
I always want more
of your show
I almost love it
as much as
as much as
Ariel's show
and
just I wanted to say to
Don Davis
you were
amazing
Twin Bigs
and incredibly
talented performance
and
I honestly thought you were
that
There's an actor
named Don Davis
To go back to the show
It's amazing
Amazing show
Honestly
And I just
I hope you guys
Can continue to do it
And just
I want to thank you
The thing you do
For us
For us all
It's
Honestly
It's
It's amazing
It's amazing
Thanks, sir
So big love to you all guys
And of course
Certainly
Certainly big love
To where Frank's mom's
And as too
Because honestly don't feel bad
Frank
We all kissed it
Shout out George
Thank you for that
The plane didn't go down there
Yeah
He's kind of a breath
Thanks for the call George
That was great
We appreciate you listening man
Thank you
Shut up Don Davis
The actor Don Davis
That's the actor Don Davis
That I acted on, Davis.
Yeah, what's up, boys, in the back?
What's up?
RDR Fight Week, so, you know,
the Board of the Netherlands had to check in.
Let's go.
Shout out.
I'm actually originally from Vancouver,
so this is your car.
It's quite a funny fight week for me now.
This is made for you.
I'm actually going to hear a question this week.
I just wanted to express my appreciation
for how much of a,
really lovely community that you guys have managed to build particularly with the boys in the
back show oh man i appreciate that i just love hearing like fans from other parts of the world
tuning in and just knowing that there's you know a lot of uh a lot of other passionate fans in all
corners of the world that uh it warms my heart and uh this show is is an absolutely integral part
of my my commute so i appreciate you guys all so much gc rick rick frank
And Andy and Jordan in the back, I believe I got everyone.
So that's it for me.
Enjoy the fights, guys, and have a great weekend.
Cheers.
Thank you, brother.
Brother, you have a great weekend as well, man.
Appreciate the calls.
Back-to-back, love?
Appreciate that, man.
I can't thank y'all enough for listening.
We wouldn't be able to do it if you guys didn't listen.
Shout out to Andy.
Shout out to Derek, who's man in the ship today.
Hey, shout out to Big D.
Yeah, appreciate you guys a lot.
For real.
Greetings from the beautiful Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, Australia.
Shout to Australia.
Amsterdam to Australia.
A long-time fan of a show.
I love your work from GC's zest to life and enthusiasm of anything he chooses to do from going and watching sports.
Don't just watch the sport.
He'll eat the food of the sport and wear the hat of the sport and makes just want to be around the guy.
To big ricks, straight shooting, no nonsense, hot takes and steering of the ship.
Big Frankie's effortless hilarity
and also the glue that holds the gang together in the back of the house
is don't call me Randy
Andy and on-air Jordan
all questions and such
but I had a few hot takes if you will
I'm a big fan of lots of things in life
my girls running
shout out to the Strava group
248 marathon people
It's international yeah like
I wish I love
last we're going to get back on.
Anything loved me the way Rick loves the borough of Queens, New York.
I've never heard the man so worked up about anything in his life.
Me neither.
Also, my hot takes of the day that boys in the back is the number one MMA podcast or a show
in the biz because of the lack of guests.
I'll admit that sometimes I even fast forward the guests on Ariel's show because I just want
to hear the boys shoot the shit.
So keep up a good work.
I'll see you in Queens one day
when I run the New York Marathon
and I'll go and visit
the two airports and backyards
and whatever else Rick said was good in Queens
peace
shout out we'll see when we visit
Victoria Australia
but do tune in for those interviews
I mean you know
we don't get the moments like Raven
yeah I was going to say
we'll take any of the accolades you'll give us
whether they're true or not
and we appreciate the love no matter what
yeah
what's up boys in the back it's chris from rexham north wales i sent uh to rexum damn
and eric the maze he's marvellous mistakes book yes again big thank you for that shout out
um so question from me what is the protocol without shoes in the octagon
like all the officials people that come in they've always got the shoes on
i both they have different shoes for going outside and then coming back into the
I mean, how does it work?
Because you've got to any Jiu-Titoo gym anywhere,
bare feet, clean feet, you know.
These people are always walking in with their shoes on.
Say there's a type of fight before the main event,
and everyone's walking in with their shoes on.
Does the mat get washed down and wiped?
Because there's all that bacteria coming in from the shoes.
Just, you know, how I think.
Once again to all your stuff, mate.
I love it all.
Take care. Bye.
Shout to Rexum, first of all.
Shouts of Chris.
Amsterdam to Australia to Wales.
Not bad, man.
It doesn't get much cooler than that.
Secondly, do they wipe it down?
No, as far as I know.
No, they do. They bring in like sweepers and stuff.
In between each fight?
Yeah.
I don't know if it's every fight, but they have them in the ring in the cage.
And like if there's blood and stuff, they mop it up.
But he makes a good point.
Like on the mats for jiu-jitsu, you can't, like, you have to be barefoot.
The fighters are.
all barefoot and like
the refs and like corner men and stuff are just like
walking in with shoes on. Oh yeah. It is a bit
bizarre. I guess that's a good point. At first
I was wondering like I thought he was asking
because like obviously the fighters don't wear it because
of you would kill someone
if you had kicked them with a shoe on.
Yeah, I guess that's a good point.
Like the mat is supposed to be clean, pristine.
Oh yeah. Now the only notable
example I can think of
Cedric Dube brought the
splinter into the ring.
without the shoes and so ultimately like you know who knows but they do have like a cleaning process
like especially if there's been a bloody fight they kind of they kind of wipe it down it's a good point
um i'm gonna keep an eye out for that this weekend yeah i wonder about the shoes though that was all
the voicemails we got to uh thank you to everyone who called thank you everybody sincerely appreciate
all the love and all the questions uh enjoy that very much we got any super chats frankie
you guess we do so the first one is what's up with ESPN
lack of UFC coverage. Are they toning down UFC and doing more WWE? I think this is also affecting
PFL's promotion on ESPN. Yeah, it's no longer on ESPN, so you will no longer see it on ESPN.
It's not a big enough of a sport for them to cover it on the daily. So, I mean, how much did you really
see of it outside the actual fights when it was on ESPN? You get the DC on first take and the occasional
talking about like the monster fights, but like, you're not going to see them breaking down
UFC Vancouver like that just isn't going to happen yeah I mean they have a duty to cover all
sports but it kind of there's a limit to that right we worked at ESPN we know this like the A block
is always going to be cowboys lakers Yankees nicks whatever those like big uh hot teams are the the
most popular teams uh Lebron they're always going to cover the same kind of things over and over
and for MMA to break through even when it was on ESPN it had to be a major story you had to be
Alex versus Izzy type shit.
For it to break through now, when they're coming to the end of the deal, and then in
26, when they're no longer even on ESPN, I think the coverage of MMA from ESPN is
going to be very, very minimal, if anything.
As someone like you said, that we've been behind the scenes, it is an NFL and college
football, an NBA network.
Those are the big three by far when it comes to that place.
Then you get some baseball.
Then, like, now that they have hockey, like, you get a touch of hockey on there.
but like the thing that's carrying them is the NFL.
Like that is what they are going to cover no matter what.
And then college football as well.
And then the NBA, because they have so much NBA coverage.
And then it's the other one slotted behind in like major stories and in other sports.
Yeah.
I mean, you can see where their loyalties lie with how much WWE coverage there is now
when it was non-existent before this.
That's right.
Yeah.
Now that they're in partnership, there's a lot more.
Shout out, boys in the back from the drummer of,
G.C.'s favorite band Melt. Thanks for the food recommendations
when we were on our tour. Big Sweep this weekend. I will be
there. I would love review or thoughts of Melt
from Frank. I'll do you one better. I'll go check out Melt at the
Sultan Room on November 1st. Oh shit.
Here. I'll be there. Yeah. In Brooklyn. Is Meld
is Melt an actual band and is that the actual drummer? Yes.
That's the actual drummer of a band. That you like.
that I was put onto by James
James put me onto it
and Frank is going to see
Frank's gonna go back to back concerts
yeah day after team Impala
the Sultan room
wow down that kind of is blowing my mind that this guy
is like just a drummer for this band
and is putting you guys onto it
shout out shout out melt
go follow Melt go follow James Turner on IG
yeah he's the man
he's the absolute man damn let's go
yeah he's been supporting since
the early days
appreciate you
yeah diehard MMA fan
as well
let's go melt
that's a melt brother
yeah if you're in the New York area
Canadian band I'm assuming
I saw a lot of
flags
did I
very Canadian
yeah
very Canadian
shout out to James Turner
Bougie Alpaca
no boxing shoutouts
for Joe Lewis's
bum of the week run
yeah this was MMA only
I mean if we're doing boxing
there's some
there's some like
15 fights
yeah crazy shit
boogie rights back in
seven wins six KOs all championship fights from 40 to 41 1940 nice to 1941 yeah and I felt like
a lot of men were busy with other things at that time like what 24 inch dubs I was raven for a
work Halloween party never more a shout out raven or the wrestler raven I think he's talking
about the wrestler for sure I do think so uh shout out 24 inch dubs always always uh always shows us love
always got the superchats.
I don't know.
Sometimes he doesn't show us love, but...
Appreciate you 24.
And lastly, street from prison.
Shiv says,
G.C., can we get an uncrowned
cycling group on Strava?
Is that a separate thing,
or can you not just post your cycles?
I think you can just post your cycles on there,
brother.
Also, what was the street from prison?
Was that you editorializing?
What was that?
Because his name was Shives?
Oh, I didn't say that.
No, his name was Shives.
Oh, okay.
I'm a bit confused here, Frank.
That was all of them.
Yeah, no, bro.
You can...
You can just post a cycling run.
Yeah, post your cycle, man.
Post your cycle.
445 members right now, by the way.
Fight Day, 5K.
Nearly 500 members?
Oh, yeah.
Hop in, bro.
Big pop for you.
On Saturday, I'm actually going to do a 10K on Saturday.
And the week after as well.
And then I'm probably going to switch over to cycling as well.
Take a little break from the old running.
Knees are barking a little bit now.
Been going hard for a few months.
Why 10K for the next two?
Well, I actually have a real run on the 20 minutes
On the morning of the 25th.
Halloween run, I'm running in a stone cold Steve Austin
And then I just want to do one this weekend
To get ready for it.
Speaking of Halloween, are you dressing out?
Yeah, I got something in the pipeline.
All right.
I got something in the pipeline.
Yeah, our show's on the 30th.
Last year on Halloween.
I know.
We'll still cook up something great for the day before.
I will admit, I'm happy that it's not this year
because Friday I can go trick or treating with my kids.
I'm sick. I mean, Frankie, you're going to Tame and Paula shout out.
All right. I think that'll do it for us. UFC. Vancouver this weekend.
Marab, best year ever.
Chris Wyden versus Anderson Silva.
Thanks so much for watching. We appreciate y'all more than you know.
Crack tomorrow.
Halwani back on Monday.
Enjoy the fights this weekend.
We'll see you next week.
