The Ariel Helwani Show - Is Merab Dvalishvili having the best year in MMA history? Weidman-Silva 3 boxing match announced, UFC Vancouver preview, more | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

The Boys in the Back kick off the show by reacting to Most Valuable Promotions announcing Chris Weidman and Anderson Silva will box on the Jake Paul vs. 'Tank' Davis undercard (01:11).Then, they discu...ss Merab Dvalishvili's 2025 run and whether, with a dominant victory in December, it will be the best year a fighter's ever had (08:29).After previewing UFC Vancouver (25:54), the Boys make picks (1:05:07), deliver their top 12-month runs in MMA (1:14:08), listen to voicemails (1:44:49), and answer your Super Chats (2:22:20).

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Boys in the Back Boys, Boys, Boys, Boys, Boys. What is good? We are back with another episode of Boys in the Back on this beautiful Thursday, August 16th. I am one-third of the Boys in the Back in my Canada 70s, 80s, Jersey, something like that in honor of UFC Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Join alongside me as always, the man the myth isn't I don't think he knew we were alive yet I think he was just I think he was typing up an email or something he wasn't aware we were like now there's things going on this camera is not even in the right mark like it's actually supposed to be over there
Starting point is 00:00:41 but oh we actually don't have the return monitors on either I mean it's just a it's a skeleton crew kind of death yeah yeah now Frankie how you do it man the final third of the boys in the back I'm doing great thank you so much for asking you're welcome man back to the short answers I like it I like it
Starting point is 00:00:57 I like it too I didn't like the word to your, Frank. We got a big show today. Pound for pound. Best 12-month runs in MMA history. We'll talk about that in a little bit. U.S. Vancouver preview. But we got some news off the top here. We just found out on the Jervante Davis, Jake Paul Card happening next to the A-side. Okay, I like it. What was the hashtag? Jank Tank. Used by MVP. And now, by MVP promotions, we will be getting the trilogy, the third matchup in
Starting point is 00:01:35 the rivalry, Chris Wideman taking on Anderson Silva, a six-round heavyweight boutter. It will be opening up the main card on Netflix. Anderson Silva, 50 years old, going up against Chris Weidman at 41. Weidman 2-0 so far in the
Starting point is 00:01:51 trilogy. Don't hate it, don't love it. Like, okay with it? Like Anderson Silva and Chris Widman have, you know, a good, I hesitate to call it a rivalry because of like the way the fights have gone, right? Like Anderson kind of playing around in the Chris Widman Springs, one of the biggest upsets in MMA history. And then like the unfulfilling injury that happened in the second one, I guess it is a rivalry, but I do feel like these guys kind of like each other and respect each other. And we've seen in recent years, it's much more amicable and cordial than it is. that of rivals, but I don't hate it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Ultimately, I feel the same way about this that I feel about a lot of the fights like this that are made, which is if they're two MMA fighters, I'd just rather see them fight MMA. Like, even at this advanced age, I'd just rather watch MMA. Yeah, it's just sort of unfortunate. Like, you don't really want to see a trilogy,
Starting point is 00:02:50 the third fight go from MMA, MMA, and now what, 12 years, 11 years later, since the last one, now we get it in boxing. I'm kind of with you. It's just like, I don't, I don't hate it. Yeah. I'll have it on, but it's, I'm not counting down the days till it. Yeah, and that's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I think that's okay for it to occupy that space. And it will potentially bring in some MMA fans to the Jake Paul versus Tank Davis card. I imagine that there's quite a few MMA fans that are tuning in any way. Jake seems to attract an MMA audience a lot of times when he's fighting. but it's at least something of note it's at least something of interest it spices things up a little more than like a traditional boxing undercard
Starting point is 00:03:32 probably would have right at least it's it's names that we know and care for and recognize but the fight itself like as as we both kind of said I'll take it or leave it it's not anything I was clamoring for uh Jake Paul and Tank Davis
Starting point is 00:03:44 obviously in the main event this will kick off the main card there's also Ellie Scott named there's Alicia Baumgardner Sharnika Johnson is also on the card he typically stacks these cards with very talented women's bouts as well.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So I'm sure people will tune in. I'm sure on Netflix with the main event being the circus show that it is, I'm positive that people will tune in. And, you know, it's a boxing match that's happening. And who knows? I mean, we saw in the Nate Diaz, Jorge Mazvedol example, that was one that everybody was like, I'd rather watch it at MMA.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And then it turned out to be actually like a pretty damn good boxing match. And so, you know, the ceiling for this is, It's not like astronomical. It's not through the roof. It's not going to blow the doors off the arena or the roof off the arena. But it has the potential to at least be semi-decent. And the floor is kind of what the floor is. It's like, you know, we know that these two guys are in advanced age, certainly Anderson Silva up there in years.
Starting point is 00:04:44 It could be potentially pretty bad. But at the end of the day, hopefully because it's boxing, like nobody's getting hurt too bad in terms of, you know, what we saw in the second fight between Chris and Anderson, I would never want. something like that to kind of be seen or replicated again. So we get what we get. Could we potentially see Chris Wyden earn a fight against Jake Paul if he beats Anderson Silva? I don't think so. I don't think so either.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I think Jake has graduated from those type of fights. I mean, he's fighting, you know, look, I've made my position on the fight between Tank and Jake pretty clear. I've made my stance on who I think is going to win pretty clear. But he's a – Tank is a legitimate boxer. He is extremely outsized in this scenario. He is giving up a lot of size and height and reach. But he is a top tier boxer.
Starting point is 00:05:32 There is no doubt about that. He's one of the top boxers in the world right now. And so I think Jake has graduated to those type of fights as opposed to an MMA fighter who is tough, but not necessarily a trained boxer like Chris Wybeman would be. You mentioned the Jorge Mazzvedal Nate Diaz fight. Yeah. That fight now in the news again as well. Jorge Mosvedol has been awarded $5.3 million in an arbitration case against Fanmeo after he claims that he was only ever paid his $1 million plus $150,000 advance before the fight in a fight that he was supposed to get $6 million from. Yeah. And I'm happy for him. Like get your money. Like if you, if, you know, I think we all had a feeling that,
Starting point is 00:06:20 this you know fight was like that they were making an exorbitant amount of money to to be able to put this on and the fact that Nate Diaz was showing up for press conferences and things like that the bag had to be fat and so I'm happy that they're being held to account that if they promised these guys a certain amount of money that they're going to have to pay it out because in the reporting the article that I read was from MMAfighting.com in that reporting it says that Nate Diaz is also en route to getting somewhere in the range of $6 million as well. It says that a separate Arbor trader overseeing the case also awarded Diaz a $6 million award along with an additional $500,000 penalty against Fanmeo founder Solomon Engel,
Starting point is 00:07:03 who was found personally liable as well as attorney fees and interest. But prior to that, it says Diaz specifically singled out Engel and allegedly saying he allegedly agreed him to pay him a sum of $10 million for the fight against Mosvedal and the lawsuit alleges that Fanmeo agreed to pay Diaz $1 million up front with an additional $9 million payment due after the fight. Yeah. And so if he gets six of the 10, I mean, still pretty good payday,
Starting point is 00:07:27 but I'd like to see him held accountable for the entire sum, if I'm being honest. Yeah, bad day to be Solomon Engel. Yeah. You got to pay the fighters that you agreed to pay him. When you put it that way, it's quite humorous. But I wonder what his liquid cash looks like.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I wonder what his assets look like. It did have the air of feeling like this was not necessarily something that was going to sell super well on pay-per-view. And we contrast that to Weidman and Silva, which is not for purchase, right? This is going to be for free with subscription on Netflix, and it seems a lot more palatable and viable than when it was previously a pay-per-view. Yeah, I also imagine that Chris Weidman and Anderson-Silva will have never been getting their paychecks. I think they will be paid. I don't know if it will be in the range of $10 million. I think it's quite in that range, but I imagine they'll get their money from MVP. I have no worries about that. All right, that's the news and the notes of the day. Marad de Valshvili earlier this week, actually sitting right there, got his fight announcement for UFC 323. He will be in a rematch against Piotr-Yon headlining in Las Vegas to close out the ESPN pay-per-view era, which led us to kind of start thinking about if Marad de Valshvili wins this fight, he will be in.
Starting point is 00:08:47 have gone 4 and 0 in the calendar year of 2025, will that make it the best year for a mixed martial artist? Best calendar year. And we should spoil a little bit later. We're going to be doing our pound for pound is going to be the best 12 month stretch for any individual fighter, not necessarily calendar year, but let's call it June 05 to June 06. We're going to do what is the best 12 month?
Starting point is 00:09:17 stretch for any fighter. 12-month run. This has to be the calendar. And now... 2025, 2007. Yeah. Just singular year is Maratha Velasvili with a win over Pejotrion, is that the best calendar year in MMA history?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah. In doing the research for the pound for pound, I obviously looked up some of the calendar years and I just don't see anything that touches it. Like there have been some fantastic ones. Don't get me wrong. There have been some great ones. But four title defenses. And I would put up against it if somebody won a title and then defended three times, I'd consider that relatively equal, right?
Starting point is 00:09:54 It doesn't necessarily have to be a defense capturing a title to me kind of counts, championship victories. But for championship victories, all four being title defenses for Marab, to me, I think, is the best year from a fight perspective in MMA history. If he can, now, I'm making an assumption here in terms of how that fight with Piotr-Yon goes. If he can do it, it will be the best year. You also have to include not only is he getting four title defenses if he's able to come out victorious in December. That obviously isn't if anything can happen in MMA. He said it himself. This is only speaking in the hypothetical case of him winning in December.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You also have to account for who he's going up against. He would have handed Umar Nirmagamatov, his first loss of his professional MMA career. Sean O'Malley in a rematch gets it done there against Sean O'Malley in his youth, in his prime. This is not an aged out O'Malley, a veteran or anything like that. Corey Sandhagen, also in his prime. Top five bantamweight has only been fighting killers for the last five, six years in the division, only loses to the best of the best, and then potentially Piotr Ian, who some consider to be the best bannam weight in the world, not name Marev de Valsh Wheatley.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, and I've been a longstanding, I've been stubborn in saying that I think the lightweight division is the best, UFC's best and has always been the UFC's best. All the talk for the last three years that I've been hearing is that bantamweight is the best division in the UFC, maybe the best division in all of the sport. And so if that were to be true, this man has reined over and dominated that division for this entire calendar year. And you laid out the case exactly why in terms of the strength of opposition that he's faced, I would be hard pressed to find a better resume over the course of a calendar year. Some other ones that kind of stick out to you. John Jones, 2011, three title wins, goes four and O'O across that year.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yep. Shogun in 05, 5 and O'O with the Grand Prix Pride victory. Usman in 2021, three title defenses. DJ, 2013, three title defenses. 2006, Chuck Liddell, three title defenses. No one has gotten that four title defenses number, though. And to me, that's just the separator. It's a massive separator because it's one of the hardest things to do, right?
Starting point is 00:12:14 to continue to get yourself ready for the next challenger. But not only that, most champions don't have this level of activity. There's a reason why we have not seen this specific accomplishment done. And that's because typically it takes longer to find rightful challengers. It takes longer to kind of like establish this is the number one contender. This is the next person you need to fight. For two, when you're the champion, you can kind of like step off the gas pedal a little bit. right you can say like okay i need six months to train let me get my next assignment and then i'm
Starting point is 00:12:46 going to fight and then you fight two maybe three times per year rob is like i just fought put me on the next card and he's unlike anybody else in that regard now there have been champions before like israela sonya comes to mind alice perera who have been super active super busy but to get up four times for title defenses in a single year is is a singular accomplishment and and rob is is an absolute like i have no doubt that he can do this Now, will he ultimately? That's a different question. And we can kind of preview that fight in two months from now when it's drawing closer.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But is Marab capable of this? There is no – if anybody is capable of this, it's Marab. What's crazy is that we say two months, it's like six weeks? Six weeks, yeah, whatever it is. Way shorter. We're already halfway through October. Like, yeah, when he was here on Monday, like, I was just like, oh, man. So, like, you just fought like nine days ago and you already have another championship fight in like six weeks.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He's just like, yeah, yeah. You're a psycho, man. You are crazy. Yeah, man. I think a lot of the research that we did, and we'll get into it later with the pound for pound. Some people have had unbelievable 12-month. I mean, if you extend to like 13, 14, 15-month, like unbelievable stretches. But man, it really has to line up perfectly, and it did for Marab. winning the title in September. He gets his first defense in January, and then he's able to slate one in June, September, and December. Like, it's almost like luck of the draw a little bit. You have to line it up perfectly, and I love that he's capitalizing on this opportunity. Like, it's sort of like in tennis or golf when you see a guy win, you know, the first two majors of the year and people start talking about the grand slam, the grand slam, the grand slam, like Novak Djokovic, for example, won the first three slams in 2021. He gets to the fourth one, makes it all the way to the final. And then like the pressure is there and he crumbles under the pressure isn't able to get it done. The fact that Marab knows he has this opportunity at hand to get four title defenses
Starting point is 00:14:41 in a year and he's capitalizing on it is incredible to see. It's fantastic for the sport, in my opinion. Yeah, and it's the type of thing that's like a factoid you can always throw out and will endear him with fans. It will definitely endear him with the UFC. We've recently heard Dana White kind of say, you know, I was not like the biggest fan of Marab to start and now I've come around. Like, you start to come around when a guy is the one who, hey, we have no pay-per-view headliner in December. Who can we call? First name up is Marob de Valle's really, right? Like there was a, there was a moment the last year before that, where was like, we need a headliner Alex Pereira, like instant, instant call, like the bat signal
Starting point is 00:15:15 went up and the, and the red phone rang. Now it feels like Marab's that guy, right? It feels like, hey, I'm willing to fight anytime, anywhere, any place, doesn't matter. I've already beat Jan. So what? He's the number one contender, next man up. Umar Nirmagamadov undefeated. So what?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Next man up. Corey Sanhagan has, you know, been a guy who's like traveled through this division, head ups, had downs, whatever. I'll take him on. He's the next man up. I'll take them on. There is nobody that he would not face. I just wonder, like, is he turning through challengers almost too quickly at a certain point? Knocking off four in the calendar year, like how many more guys can you really line up for next year? Well, it's funny that you say that.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Amon Zahabhi was actually at the press conference talking about how, like, yeah, he's sort of on the back end of the rankings right now, like in that top 10 zone. But like, the one over Chito and then like maybe one more with the way that Marab is working through these guys, it's beneficial to this. Like we saw Steve Ursaid get that title shot. uh in may of 2024 sort of circumstantially and it's just like oh he's the hottest guy right now so like let's throw him in there and and give him the opportunity like there is a world where like a guy like that i i would have to think winner of umar versus mario bautista will probably get it uh after this but yeah and i mean you hear uh cheeto verro with one win chirping that like he's he's gonna be next
Starting point is 00:16:33 for uh marob de vallisvili we've reached that point like we're i i don't even think we're that far away from the Kai Asakura, pull somebody from another promotion, give him a title shot in the debut territory when it comes to Marab. Because you look at, like, you look at the top of the division, it's, this is according to the USC rankings, Marab champion, O'Malley, two wins. Umar and Armaghamedov win over. Piotr Yan win over and we'll see what happens in December. Corey Sandhagan win over. Song Yadong, I don't think Marob has ever fought Song Yadong. No. So that would be a fresh opponent. Davis and Figaro has not. Did he fight Cheeto?
Starting point is 00:17:10 No. Okay, Cheeto, another name, Mario Batista, Amin Zahdi. So after you crack the top five, you are getting into like names that he has not fought against yet. And so it's going to be somebody from further down the list. And so maybe it's, it is a name like in Amin Zahabia, Mario Batista. Cheeto feels a little bit further away from it. Figgi, I guess you could kind of start to make the case. But we're going to start having to dig really deep to find these challengers from Rob DeValishvili.
Starting point is 00:17:35 They're not going to be top five guys anymore. I know he's on a 14-fight win street, but the run-up. up to the title and after was Marlon Marius, Joseato, Piotr Yon, Sehudo, O'Malley, Umar, O'Malley, San Hagan, Jan. This resume is stupid, man. It's really dumb. It really is quite stupid. Yeah, I just, I think I can say definitively, like, that this would be the best calendar
Starting point is 00:17:55 year if he's able to pull this off. There's been some incredible ones, and we should know, right? Like, when you're talking about what people have done and the accomplishments and things like that, we, the most recent one that comes to mind is the year that Alex Pereer had, where he headlined UFC 300, UFC 303, the level of star power and business and things that he was able to do in that calendar year is certainly more significant, right, than what Marab's able to do this year. But when we're talking just pure resume accolades, wins, losses, to me, this is going to be it if he can get it done. And we'll get into those 12-month runs a little bit later in the program. Do you think he's doing this because he turns 35 in January and we know the curse of being 35.
Starting point is 00:18:38 at, what is it, lightweight and under? Yeah, I think it's even welterweight. Yeah, welterweight and under, yeah. So I think, I think, does he feel the time creeping in? It's that popular meme right now with the rabbit pointing to the clock. Yeah, well, that is a popular meme right now. No, I think he's just bored. I think he's one of those guys that needs to fight, and if he's not fighting, he's probably
Starting point is 00:19:00 bored. I honestly think, yeah, there could be boredom, but, like, I think he's just capitalizing on his talent and skill, and he knows that with the way that he talks, about how, like, I could get beat any day. Like, anyone can beat anyone in mixed martial arts. Like, I understand that, like, anything can happen. I'm going to keep training to try and keep getting better and better. I think he knows that there's only a window of time that he's going to be the best in the world at this division.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Like, Father time comes for everyone, and he's just capitalizing on it. It would make sense to do that, right? You want to get this. While you're in your prime, you want to fight as much as possible. The reality, though, and the reason why we don't really see this that frequently is there's also the economic aspect of this, right? you want to make sure that you're fighting opponents that will sell on quote unquote pay-per-view or maybe in this next era that will bring you a bigger bonus for being able to beat them because it's going to be a higher watch number event on Paramount.
Starting point is 00:19:49 I don't know what that kind of like pay structure is going to look like and whether that's going to vary for the champions from event to event. But you do want to kind of maximize your earning potential. And I think that that's something I mentioned Israel to Sanja earlier. I think Alex Pereira is definitely somebody who has thought about this. when you're when you're in this part of your career you actually should be probably fighting more not less right because you want to make the most possible money you want to get the most possible eyeballs you want to cement your legacy in the most impressive way and maraub is doing that i do wonder as i said though like all of a sudden if we're looking at mario batista or amends a hobby versus marab devalishvili that feels more like a co-man event right you start to you start to enter a territory where like is your opponent going to to have enough name value that they can headline a paper view alongside you, or all of a sudden because of what you've been able to do, because of the names you've been able to clear out,
Starting point is 00:20:41 are you actually like almost relegating yourself to a second to a co-man status? Can I just throw out something crazy? Just an idea that I had. UFC 323 taking place December? Yep. Co-main. Yep. Alessandra Pantoja versus Josh Van.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Main event, Maradova Ler, versus Pietrean. Both of them becoming long-reigning champions. Any world, Pantosia wins. Marab wins. Pantosia jumps up to 135 and they fight each other. There's definitely a world. I do not want to see it at all. I think Mara... You want to see the long raining.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I want to see them both to just continue to rain. I don't think it makes it any more... Like, if... Let's say Pantosia... I'm assuming that you're saying Pantosia comes up, right? As opposed to Marab potentially... I don't know if Marab could even make $1.25. I think with the way that he talked on Hwani show about how hard weight cuts are.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I don't think he's going to $125. If Pantosha-ask. Yeah, God, he needed some help there. If Pantosia were to come up and lose to Marab and then go back down, I don't think it helps. I don't think it helps the status, the legendary status that he's achieving, the legacy, the reign that he's putting together at flywood, especially when you're kind of starting to like at least enter striking range of Demetrius Johnson, right? You want to at least kind of like be somewhere in the neighborhood of and be in the territory of. I know it's crazy. Shouting.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah. DJ! he's at the end of the block you want to continue that as opposed to kind of like halting that momentum also just quite frankly like stylistically i don't think that's a great fight for pantosia i just think marab's going to be too big and the style is going to be too hard to deal with for him i would much rather see them remain apart but there is a reality as i kind of like made the case for myself that feels like a main event whereas amends a hobby mario batista even davis and figurado i'm starting And that feels like co-man territory to me as opposed to Maine.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And so I wonder what you do do in terms of the problem that you're going to have in finding both of those guys' opponents. And if you do try to solve it by giving them each other, there is some logic to that. I would just prefer not to see it. UFC feeding us well with these last few pay-per-views in the ESPN area. UFC 321, obviously Tom Aspinall on the main event. A lot of good fights there in Abu Dhabi. UFC 322 at MSG has absolutely stacked the gills. Stacked.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Stacked. 323 in December. Moran versus Jan, Pantoja versus Josh Van, Macy Barber versus Karini Silva, Henry Suhudo, Peyton Talbot, Jan Blahovich going against Bogdan Gouscov. You got Faresiam versus Nazim Sadikov, Brian Marino, Tatsuro, Tyra,
Starting point is 00:23:14 Terrence McKinney taking on Chris Duncan. That's like guaranteed violence. Grant Dawson, Manuel Torres, Marvin Vittori, Bruno Fajara. These last few pay reviews in the ESPN era are not bad. 322 is crazy. 322 is nuts. Yeah, that feels like the card of the year
Starting point is 00:23:29 at the moment on paper. we'll see how it ultimately plays out. Payton Talbot beats Henry Sehudo, title shot? Why not? I don't know. He's number 10. Yeah, I think it's, let's chill. I think it's Batista, Umar, win.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Marcus Buccecha? Who's the new Buccecha at Bantam with that they're going to bring in? I don't know. Look, Amin Zahabi, Mario Batista, all those guys that have kind of been talking around and we've been listing that are in that range, they're probably going to, end up having to like fight each other and then you're eliminating one option it is going to be slim pickens for next year for maraub what he did this year is going to be so so impressive if he's able to get past piotr yon i don't think it's any secret we're both predicting that marab is able to win
Starting point is 00:24:14 that fight if he does he set him up himself up for a tricky kind of 2026 that that's ultimately where i think that will fall because like the omali thing seems like it's done right yon would have now been to. Umar, you could kind of, I think there's enough of a story there that you could kind of shoot Umar back into it. Corey just happened. It's really going to get tough to find Marab opposition in 2026. And there's
Starting point is 00:24:40 there'll be no top in this 2025 if he's able to get it done. No. In December. That's 323. I think we're both in agreeance. If he gets it done, this will be the best calendar year. One thing I don't hear, what about Marab going up? Oh, to 145? I mean, he talks about that with Ariel with Volk. He was like, no, I don't really want
Starting point is 00:24:56 to do it. I would suspect that he wouldn't want to do it again he's kind of like he's perfect for bantam weight and his style but when when you come to the point where you're realizing maybe the opposition is is not going to get me where i want from a status perspective maybe that changes because i do think there are some big fights at 45 that could be had for him it's all it's all this combination of business and resume and legacy and all these things ultimately i think maraub will be fine I already have him as the Bantamweight goat. I think this will all shake out decently for him,
Starting point is 00:25:28 but things to consider heading into 2026. That's 323. 322. We mentioned it, but if you haven't seen it, main card, J.D.M. Islam Makashav, Valentina Shepchenko, Wiley Zhang, Leon Edwards, Carlos Brachiaz, Bnielderi, SPSD,
Starting point is 00:25:40 Sean Brady, Michael Morales, featured about Aaron Blanchfield, Tracy Cortez by Sanger Susukayev also on the card, Bo Nickel, also on the card. Absolutely stacked to the gills. We'll get to that. Later on,
Starting point is 00:25:53 in the year, though. Let's go to this weekend. UFC Vancouver. We're back in the Great White North, and we've got a big middleweight clash, not as big as it could have been. It should have been RDR versus Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. Potential title Eliminator. I really wanted to know. We saw Nassardine Imov, like he didn't put on the greatest performance but got the job done. Like, this could have been a stamp the title ticket between RDR and Fluffy Hernandez. Alas, we end up with RDR and Brendan Allen, filling. in. Brennan Allen was on a seven-fight win streak. Now he finds himself a winner of just one in his last three. And RDR, man, you talk about 12-month runs. RDR looking to go
Starting point is 00:26:33 five and oh since he made his debut last year in November against GM3 would be unbelievable and he's this close to a title shot. If it ain't this one, it's the next one. Yeah, you have to think that he's knocking on the door of it. I do think that a win over Fluffy would have stamped it, whereas a win over Brendan Allen. I don't know if it necessarily is. emphatic win over Fluffy, I think he's getting it. He gets it. Yeah, I agree with that. And so it is a little bit of a letdown. I thought that was a fantastic fight. I was really looking forward to that. This is not a bad fight either, but I just don't think it has that same kind of oomph that a win over Fluffy would have had or in Fluffy's case, a win over RDR. The chaos, the madness that is RDR versus just the absolute savage in Fluffy Hernandez. It's not the same thing, but I'm in agreeance with you. I think it is a, I think it's going to, to be a good fight. Interested to see how it plays out. RDR, obviously, with the nasty BJJ, Brennan Allen, a solid striker.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Excuse me, it hasn't been finishing people as much as of late, a lot of decisions. So, like, I give the finishing upside to RDR. I give the striking to Brennan Allen, but, like, if they go to the mat, then I probably favor RDR, then there's just the chaos factor, and I'm kind of like an RDR doubter into this point. Now I can't doubt them anymore. Like, ultimately, I think I'm going to go with RDR, but it's just a lot of, but but it's a solid scrap that could go many different routes.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I'm going to commit the Cardinal sin that I've replicated over and over and over and will continue to make over again. Tell me, because I might be doing the same thing. I'm picking against RDR. Okay, all right. I was going to say, my Cardinal sin is picking against the guy, picking against the guy, picking against the guy. They win, they win, they win, and then I'm like, all right, I'm done down this guy. I'm going to go with them. And then they lose.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Yeah, you're making that mistake. I'm doing the other one. I'm doing the other one, which is like, I don't believe in RDR in the way that I believe in Brendan Allen or would have believed in Fluffy against him. There is a point where I think this, look, he has proven to be better than I thought he was going to be entering the UFC, but I still don't see like a finished product guy that I'm like, I know this guy can be a championship material fighter. Like, if you put him in there with Hamzai right now, he's not beating Hamzat.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I know, you know, it's a fight and anything can happen. He's not beating Hamzat. There's just, there's not a chance. Quite frankly, I don't know if there's anybody who's beating Hamzat at this moment. Brendan Allen to me, I think, is a little more well-rounded than some of the past opposition. If, like, we've seen scrambles between Fluffy and Brendan Allen that, like, Brendan Allen was doing pretty decent. And if Brendan Allen is able to, like, execute the wrestling, on the feet, I don't think it's a huge edge to Allen. Maybe if it's an edge, it's a minor edge in that clinch.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Like, we've seen some nasty tieboxing from RDR so far in his UFC run. at range though I maybe give a minor edge to Brendan Allen but what I think he might be able to do better than RDR is combine those two things is do a little bit of that wrestleboxing you know just keeping the range just enough to get his strikes off going for clinches going for takedowns when he needs it getting out if it starts to look at even the slightest bit dangerous right if RDR looks like he's close to trying to do something you kind of get out
Starting point is 00:29:45 if Brendan Allen can control where this fight takes place I give him an edge and I'm surprised to see him as his big good dog as he is. I think he's creeping up toward two to one. Close to it. He's like a minus 210 RDR is. And it's actually interesting that you say this because Brennan essentially said the same thing. Obviously, he's going to have the self-belief in himself. Yeah. But he was at the presser being like, I just don't see it. I just don't think he's that guy. Like I think I can do better in each area than him. And like no one's really brought it to him. He has fought like Robert Whitaker. He's fought very good guys. Good talent here in the in the UFC so far. But he is,
Starting point is 00:30:20 he's saying the same thing. So that's how he feels about it. And by the way, I call it the Cardinal mistake because I've made this mistake many times. I doubted DDP along the way. Every step of the way, I doubted DDP. You doubted J.DM. You hate the three initial guys.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I don't know if I doubted J.D.M. Just in the fight against Balal and ultimately, you know, that didn't go our way. Although I will also be picking against him in November when it comes to Islam versus J.D. Maybe I do doubt J.D.M. Good. But, yeah, ultimately, like, I think RDR has proven to be much better than I thought and much better than a lot of people expected.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But I feel the way Brendan Allen feels, which is, like, I've seen enough of Brendan Allen that when he's on and he's at his best, he's able to control where fights take place. And if he can do that against RDR, I think he will be the one controlling it, right? RDR's game is much more predicated on, like, there's a little bit of chaos, there's a little bit of moments where he has an opportunity to create, whether it be a scramp, or whether it be in the clinch, something that the opponent wasn't kind of ready for, right? And if he can off balance, if he can offset Brendan Allen's rhythm, and
Starting point is 00:31:30 it's actually Brendan who's kind of the one that's a little bit off the timing, I think it will start to snowball and I actually think RDR will kind of like take over from that point. But if Brendan's on his game, at the best versions of we've seen of Brendan Allen, if he can stay at range and box with them and then just
Starting point is 00:31:46 mix in even shots, right? It doesn't have to be takedowns themselves, even shots, and the way that kind of Marab does, I think it's a winnable fight to the point that I'd actually even favor him a little bit. All right, so, I mean, we saw RDR get dropped against Whitaker. I mean, he was this close to getting finished.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So, like, he is, it is possible for him at these moments of weakness. Like, I think he just looked unbelievable against Bone Nickel. Like, he struggled against GM3 as well. So, like, there is a world where this goes five rounds. Smoke Kevin Holland. Smoked Kevin Hollen, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:17 He looks great there. It's like when he looks like really good, he looks unbelievable and like when he gets into competitive fights like he does have like those bad moments where he gets dropped or he looks like he's struggling against GM3. I could see this being like a 48, 47 either way. For sure
Starting point is 00:32:31 and I'm not I don't think it's like a this is not me going out of a limit being like it's a foregone conclusion that Brendan Allen's going to win this fight and his pact of victory is so clear. It could get dicey for Renan Allen because I have concerns about him as well. I don't think Brendan Allen is like this guy
Starting point is 00:32:47 that's a guaranteed championship level fighter. So I have concerns about his game as well. Ultimately, I think it's going to be who controls the pace, who controls the rhythm, who controls the timing. But I do think Brendan Allen is going to be the one to be able to do that at the moment. They've called you in the chat or the voicemails or super chats or something. They've called you Eric ultimately, Jacqueline. Did I just say it? You said it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And I noticed I said it earlier in this bit when I was making my prediction. Now you've got me saying they ultimately. I gave this gift to you. I think another thing I do is instead of agreement, I say agreeance, which they mean like exactly. exactly the same thing. One is just like... They don't like you saying that. One is older...
Starting point is 00:33:22 Oh yeah, people are always like Ah, GC, agreeance. It's so goddamn annoying. Whatever happens is a strictin. Remember when they called you out on that? Yeah. I did say stricter. I get some tongue twisters in here.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I mean, we sit here and talk for like two and a half, three hours. Like, I'm bound to mess it up eventually. Let's say RDR wins. Yeah. Title shot. Oh, you say no matter what. He has the thing right now. Like, don't...
Starting point is 00:33:49 don't waste the momentum. Don't waste the thing. Like, it's, you have to strike when the iron's hot when it comes to the UFC. And I feel like he's a rare example of like, you just talked about his level of activity. This would be the fifth USC win for him
Starting point is 00:34:05 since his debut, right? This would be number five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Five and O in 11 months. In 11 months. Like, take that opportunity and strike while the iron's hot because you don't know what's going to happen
Starting point is 00:34:14 when you sit on the sidelines. He loses some of that momentum. It feels like RDR has the, has the favor of the fans. The books have him as a huge favorite over a guy that if you had this fight as his debut in the UFC, he'd be a plus 300, 400 underdog.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Like, take this opportunity that he has all this momentum now and just ride it. That's my feeling. This is a hot hand at the table. Just ride this opportunity and let him get a title shot. Obviously, he's been around longer.
Starting point is 00:34:43 And, like, the five-fight run is much more impressive. But technically, like, Imova would only be on a five-fight win-street. as well. Yeah, look. But Kyle Bajalio, Israel Adasanya, Brendan Allen, Jared Canaan,
Starting point is 00:34:54 here, and Roman DeLite is a much harder five. If we're going to do the fake that does not exist, quote unquote, deserves, Imov deserves a title shot. There's no doubt in my mind.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Like, you can't make an argument against his resume. But this is a push the hot hand and he gets the next one, right? That's my stance on it. It is like, you have lightning in a bottle right now with RDR.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Don't let it cool off, right? His momentum, we started this show with a conversation about Marab de Valishvili and how hot he was in 2025 and keeping that momentum. Think about where Marab was with the fans, with Dana White at the end of 2024, and how he was not the guy that all of a sudden now he's the machine and everybody loves him and everybody respects him and he's this champion
Starting point is 00:35:39 that everybody wants to get behind. It was not this at the end of last year. This momentum works. This idea of like carrying the momentum, it is not artificial. It is something and it will help solidify. If you push RDR into a title shot now, it will be the best possible time that you can do it.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Do I think he wins it now? No. Do I think he wins it if he waited and was too away? No. But ultimately, I think it will be better for the audience and for the appeal if you do it now while he's hot. I was going to say RDR versus DDP. I'm down for it.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But if you're RDR at a certain point, it's like, man, I've been doing it all. lot of favors of you guys like i've been stepping in there i this fluffy hernandez fight was going to be a number one contender potentially a fight potentially right he pulls out i stay on the card like he didn't he didn't have to stay on this card he could have just said all right i'm going to take the next opponent i think he feels the momentum thing that i'm talking about i think he feels like if i can keep this momentum going i could slide myself into that spot i'm down for a ddp fight i think that'd be a lot of fun it's the chaos versus chaos it's the it's the it's the comic hammers
Starting point is 00:36:47 coming in at the same time. But I just feel like strike while the iron's hot with him. If Brennan Allen wins, even above title shot? Yes. I agree. I agree. It's going to be interesting. I got RDR. He's got Brendan Allen in the main event. Let's go to the co-main event. Kevin Holland taking on Mike Malak. Kevin Holland, fifth fight this year. You talk about calendar years. He's already in his fifth one.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And I'm sure he's already signed the contract for December win-luser draw in this fight against Mike Malott. He is two and two so far in 2025. Lost as a minus 600 favorite against D-Rod last time out. Now he gets hometown kid Mike Malott. This is kind of the like bet on him as a minus 600 favorite. He loses bet against him when he's a plus 175 and he wins. Yeah, that's exactly what this is. And it's the Kevin Holland experience where like sometimes he fights up to the competition, sometimes he fights down. I don't know how to what to make of this one. Ultimately, Fuck, did it again with the ultimately. Eric ultimately Jackman.
Starting point is 00:37:48 If this plays out at range, I do give a slight edge to Mike Malat. I think the power's a little bit better on his side. I think he's a little bit cleaner. Plus, I feel like the improvement from fight to fight is on Malat's side, as opposed to Kevin Holland's just like, at the beginning of the year, he's like, I'm fighting six times this year, and it looks like he's going to fight six times this year. Kevin Holland is who Kevin Holland is. We're not seeing massive leaps in his game at this point,
Starting point is 00:38:13 but his game is a dangerous game like in the striking would I be surprised to see Kevin Holland outstriked Mike Malat? Not really like Kevin Holland stood there toe to toe with a Wonderboy with a busted hand and kind of just still did the thing like Kevin Holland is a supremely talented
Starting point is 00:38:30 striker so I wouldn't be surprised but I do give the slight edge in favor Mike Malott if it remains on the feet then if Mike Malott at all tries to implement a grappling heavy approach or even mixes it in I think that's where he'll ultimately Now it's in your head
Starting point is 00:38:47 Now it's in my head I think that's where he will He will eventually have a lot more success And yeah It's similar to like how I feel about the Brendan Allen Actually like I think Kevin Holland is dangerous I think RDR is dangerous But I think the one who's going to be able to control
Starting point is 00:39:04 The tempo pace and location of this fight is going to be Malat And so I favor that style I think it's a properly lined scrap minus 110 each way I could see anything happening Mike Millot really relies on his finishing capabilities a lot. Kevin Holland, a tough dude to finish. If Kevin Holland is at his best, he is a hard out. Like, it is not easy to get that man out of there. It's not easy to beat him. But man, you just like, you kind of just don't know with Kevin Holland what version of him you're going to get.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And if we get an improving Mike Malad, I would have to favor him. The problem with Kevin Holland fights is sometimes Kevin accepts fights playing out in the opponent's favor. because he's so, like, cool and calm under pressure. It's almost like a, yeah, I'm not in danger, so why do I need to, like, freak out or do anything? And that leads to these, like, periods of just losing fights. Like, it leads to this inactivity, this level of, like, because he's not feeling in danger,
Starting point is 00:39:59 because he's not feeling like there's anything that's really going to harm him particularly badly, he's kind of there for the taking. And then you see guys kind of landing on him. You see because he's not feeling like somebody's going to come in there and finish him, so he just kind of he kind of goes with their flow while the fight's playing out that way
Starting point is 00:40:18 and I feel like that's what's ultimately going to happen here like I feel like Malat is going to like control the flow and Holland might just be willing to play that game with him if Holland is the one who's stifling Malat if he's being more aggressive I think this fight could get very interesting
Starting point is 00:40:33 very quick but I favor Malat I favor Malat as well which is exactly why Kevin Holland will finish when you least expect that Kevin Holland win. And that's why he's fun. I love Kevin Holland. He'll probably be talking shit. Crowd will probably be into it. It'll be fun, man. I'm looking forward to that one. This Vancouver card is deep. I like it. There's a lot of good fights on this one. Let's go to the
Starting point is 00:40:54 feature about Marlon Chito Vera taking on Amin Zahabi. You talk about a guy who needs to win. Marlon Chito Vera needs a win here. I know he's a fan favorite, but like we're getting about a year and a half since that title shot against Sean O'Malley. He's one and three in his last four. Now he's taking on a guy in Zahabi who's not really a big name. He's just kind of rising through the ranks. It's a hobby. We'll get a massive benefit from getting this W here. Need to see one go through the hoop for Cheeto.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Yeah, and this feels like the level of opposition that you could potentially see one go through the hoop, right? Like, Cheeto Vera has been fighting the cream of the crop in this division for an extremely long time. We now see the Davis and Figurado loss has aged a little bit better, right? Davis and Figurato was very clearly like going to have some decent success at Bantamway. he had a crazy initial run then he hit some turbulence now he's back on track but it's clear that davis and figurato is a top bantam weight like is a is a highly skilled bantam weight and so
Starting point is 00:41:50 you lose to o'malley you used to figurator you lose to sanhagen like those are the top those are the best guys like it's hard to look at chito vera and go ah he's really on a skid when you're looking at guys who are the best of the best and so amen feels like a real drop off in terms of the skill set from those guys. And so I wouldn't be surprised if we see kind of a vintage Marlon Vera performance. The thing that worries me, though, is even the vintage Marlon Vera performances, I talked about Kevin Holland. Marlon is the same way, which is like, if he doesn't feel like you're really going to, like, threaten him, he kind of just goes with the flow. And sometimes that works against him, right? But then all of a sudden he pulls out a crazy knockout of
Starting point is 00:42:31 Dominic Cruz or something like that. But sometimes he's just like in the fight. And I don't know how to, I don't know how to properly, like, voice what I'm trying to say or describe it, but it's just like an acceptance. It's an acceptance of like this dance that we're doing. A slow starter. It's, yeah, it's like a slow starter kind of thing as opposed to somebody who's going to come in there and go, no, from second one of this moment, I'm going to be on your ass. And he's just not that style of fighter. And that's okay. You don't have to be that style of fighter. He's found great success without being that. But I do worry about that in these types of fights, especially a three-rounder, right?
Starting point is 00:43:04 We saw in the fight with Amon and Joseo like some wild, wild, wild swings there over the course of five rounds, that plays out a little bit differently. But with three rounds, you never know which way that goes. And I think it would be a tactical error to let Amon's a hobby kind of like have a round or do what he wants to do for a little bit before you turn it on, especially in three rounds.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I mean, he's talking about Amin's a hobby, man. Six-fight, one streak, five of those. He was an underdog. He gets a slight favorite nod over Marlon Chito Vera, but consistently doubted. Yeah, it's been a fairy tale type of run. Yeah, I mean, I remember the fight that kicked this off was the, not the Draco Rodriguez, the Ricky Terseo's fight.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Big dog going into that one. He was coming off, Ricky Terseo was coming off a tough and everything, and everyone was all in on him. And I remember when he's a hobby beat him, I was like, oh, damn. And then when he beat Javi Bosharat, it was like, oh, shit. Yeah. Plus 600 in that one, gave him his first career loss. Now he's beating guys like Pedro Munoz, Jose Aldo, and now has a chance.
Starting point is 00:44:02 to really solidify himself at the top of the 135 division with a win over Marlon Chito Vera. It's crazy to see how our guy has come, one of our own. Shout out to the Hellwani twin. Is he going to get it done? Is he going to beat Chito? Man, this is one of those ones where he don't want to see either guy lose, right? Like, I don't want to see Chito lose four or five.
Starting point is 00:44:22 It'd be a great story, whoever wins. I'll say that. I'm going to side with Marlon Chito Vera to bounce back. I think so too. I lean Marlon here. I think he knows he needs it. And if he wants to at all kind of remain near the top of this division, you have to win this is a winnable part for you.
Starting point is 00:44:39 But this is the one you got to win. You have to win it. Can't lose four or five in the last one beat Damon Zahavi. No, I'll do respect to Amund Zahavi. What the fuck is going on, bro? Do that one, get that one ready for when, uh, when Cheeto wins. When Cheetos in the octagon and Ariel enters it. Ariel, I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:55 What the fuck is going on? These are two of his guys. He loves Marlon. Cheetos is one of the regular guests on the show. It's a hobby too, friend of the program and also doppelganger. Yeah, this is the this is the Halwani Bowl. It truly is. We had that graphic for the G.C. like, fight for the week, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:14 This is the, this is the Halwani Bowl for sure. Let's keep on rolling along. Another very good friend of the program, Jasmine. Oh, beat me too, Frankie. You're on the spot with that one. Taking on Manon. taking on Manon Fioro, who's coming off a title loss to Valentina Shepchenko, 4847 on all three judges' scorecards.
Starting point is 00:45:38 This is a tough one. This is a tough one for Jasmine, Jazz DeViscius. It is the... He was early the other times. Yeah, no, I should have laid out for that one, Frankie. I'm sorry, that's on me. 87% takedown defense for Minone. Really solid striking.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Tough as nails. Just saw her go toe-to-toe with the champ. One of the best fly weights of all time. Jasmine has been on an amazing run, but this is very difficult for her. Yes. This is going to be difficult from the sole reason that Manon is going to be faster, is going to be the better striker. And I expect that a lot of the fight plays out there. As you said, the take-down defense for Monon is quite good. And so it will be hard to get her down. I mean, it was kind of like the Blanchefield fight that we were at.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah. Blanchefield could not do anything. couldn't do anything. There's a difference in physicality there, in my opinion, though. Like, Blanchfield is strong. She's not great at getting people to the mat. Jasmine, on the other hand, is. Jasmine is going to be a lot bigger and a lot stronger, in my opinion. And so if she's aggressive enough,
Starting point is 00:46:49 I do think she's going to have opportunities to counter Manon. If she can crowd Manon and prevent her from, like, just striking at range, throwing out those kicks and those punches, I think there's going to be opportunities for her. I like Jasmine as a dog in this fight. I'm not going to get into the logistics or anything of it. I'm just going with Jasmine. I picked against her too many times.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I got called out for it. I got shit on it for it. Buy her. By her. Right when she got back to the locker room. Hashtag, stay vicious. I'm going with Jasmine Jazz, the vicious. Truly, though, like, she to me poses a problem
Starting point is 00:47:24 that I don't think a lot of the other flywates do. just in terms of her size. Like her size and physicality is going to be a lot for people to deal with. Manone's game is predicated around that like high volume, pip pat, in out,
Starting point is 00:47:39 pop, pop, pop. If Jasmine could be in her face and just close that distance and now that's obviously counterintuitive to somebody who is bigger than her opponents, most of the time you're going to want to stay at range. But if she can crowd that space
Starting point is 00:47:52 or she can close that distance and at least threaten the takedowns if not get them, I wouldn't be surprised if she's actually able to take her down. I think I really like Jasmine in this fight as a dog. Get nasty on top. Just be nasty with it. Be vicious.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Stay vicious. For lack of a better term. If she can be aggressive and really just be nasty with her work, I think there's a real opportunity for her here because I don't think I don't think Manon is threatening enough with finishing capability. If you're Jasmine, you know
Starting point is 00:48:21 that you could probably take her best punch. Accept that. Wade through it, close that gap and see what you can do once you're in close. If you can clinch her, if you can grab her and find a way to drag it to the mat, man, once Jasmine gets people down and she's in that ground and pound, it's pretty nasty stuff. So I like her as an underdog here. It's a tall task, but I'm going to rock with her. I'm going to rock with her. I'm with her too. A bit of a homer pick, but Jasmine gets it done. Coda Gibson versus Areechie Lang. Cote Gibson, the representative of
Starting point is 00:48:55 the U.S. here versus the man from China. No Canadian here. I was interested to see that. Is that the only one? I think on the main card, it's the only one because we got Brendan Allen. Oh, Alan and Rainer-Daritter, obviously. Well, Brennan, because of I believe his grandparents, is going to be representing. Oh, is he
Starting point is 00:49:11 reping Canada for this? Yep. Yeah, they got the flag next to his thing. Oh, shout-out. So, yeah, shout-out. Cody Gibson and Ritchie Lang, both guy coming off of losses. Cody Gibson, obviously, the sweetheart from Tough 31, as we all have them. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Yeah, I mean, it should be a solid scrap.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Bandaway Bout, don't have a ton to say. Don't have a ton of stakes on it. But, I mean, both these guys come to throw down. It should be entertaining. Yeah, I probably lean Cody on this one, but I don't feel super strong about it. Cody right now, minus 170. Speaking of doppelgangers, kicking off the main card in a proper scrap, my doppelganger, Kyle Nelson, he's now my official UFC doppelganger because we got Gurum making his debut in ACA in a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Taking on the Steam Rolla, Matt Frivola, should be. a fantastic bow, Kyle Nelson coming off of believe knockout victory or did he lose to Steve Garcia lost to Steve Garcia Bill Algeo at that Atlantic City card that we're at.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'm telling you, man, they put a lot of these fighters on the same cards. Like, you've got Monon Fioro on this card. You've got Kyle Nelson on this card. RDR, we saw at Des Moines.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Like I'm telling you, it's like the cards we go to they like try and stack them all together. It's something weird. Kyle Nelson with a nasty knockout of Bill Algeo at that card, though, and then a knockout loss. Steam Rolla, seven in a row have knocked on to a decision for him. So I think they're going to put on a fun fight. Yeah, I had to look it up because I didn't remember the last time we had seen Fervola,
Starting point is 00:50:39 and it's been over a year now. Ferziam. Yeah, September 28, 2024. In Paris. In Paris, a nasty knee knockout. Yeah, I think if Frivola can just stuff the takedowns, I think he's going to be in pretty good shape. Yeah, he's kind of fallen in love with the striking, so I'm mad. imagine that's what they do. And I think someone gets put out in this one. I think it's,
Starting point is 00:50:58 I think it's a good scrap and someone gets finished. Yeah, I could see it, especially if later in the fight, like Nelson's kind of been struggling to get some takedowns, been trying and trying and trying if Favola's been able to stuff him. If it gets those later rounds, then maybe I think Favola has an opportunity to finish. He's obviously got, you know, three round power. He's got power in any of, in any moment of the fight. Ultimately, God damn it. If he stuffs the takedowns, I like Frivolta here. I'm going to go with my boy Doppelganger
Starting point is 00:51:27 All love to Matt Favola Great follow on MMA Twitter But I'm going to go with the doppelganger The man who's rocking the ball of beard brand I'm going to go with Kyle Nelson Featured scrap Of the evening Featured prelim I should say
Starting point is 00:51:40 Charles Jordane taking on Davy Grant Dangerous Davy Grant About to turn 40 years old Taking on the young And upcoming Charles Jordain Who finds himself back in the one column After a two fight Losing streak
Starting point is 00:51:52 As an underdog I don't mind Davy Grant. I mean, we've seen Charles Rodane get challenged in there, and Davy Grant has won to challenge people, especially in the striking. Davy Grant is like the ultimate gamer, man. He is the gamer of all gamers. Like that last fight against Blackshear.
Starting point is 00:52:08 He showed his medal. He showed his toughness against a guy who, I think he was probably a big dog in that one, right? Against Blackshear? Yeah, I can tell you right now. He was a plus 285. Yeah. So that's the Davey Grant style.
Starting point is 00:52:23 That's the Davey Grant. story he can withstand a lot of punishment but also come those later rounds he's going to be able to really like put it on you and get you out of there i do like charles jane is one of those guys who when he's on i feel like he looks like he can be one of the best in the world but there's too many moments where he's not davy is a little more consistent right davy's a little more meat potatoes you know what you're getting like you're going to get a pretty consistent effort from him throughout the three rounds and he's going to be in your face
Starting point is 00:52:54 and he's going to be trying to finish it. I think Charles Dordaigne is going to win this fight if he's at his best, so I'll ultimately, I'll lean that way, but I wouldn't be surprised by another Davey Grant upset. It just feels like that's what he does. The last win for Charles Rodain against Victor Henry
Starting point is 00:53:11 kind of feels like Davey Grant sort of like a cranked-up version of Victor Henry. Obviously, in his later stages of his career, but he is still got that dog in him. He is always dangerous and always comes to scrap. I think either way, it's going to be a really fun fight. Agreed. There's a lot of those
Starting point is 00:53:29 liked it on here. Bruno Silva taking on. Main eventer. Hjong Park. UFC Apex 106, 107. Yeah, what was that one supposed to be? He filled in against Taturo Taira.
Starting point is 00:53:45 But who was he supposed to? Who is Tyra supposed to face? I'll tell you right now. This was back in August It was supposed to be... Was it like Royval or... It was supposed to be... Oh, Amir Al-Azzi.
Starting point is 00:53:58 I'm here, Al-Azzi. Shut up for Al-Bazi. So, yeah, main eventor, Hounsung Park. UFC main eventor Huentung Park thinking on middleweight Bruno Silva. He, you know, he didn't look like completely out of place in that fight against Tyra. Now, certainly, look, as soon as it hit the mat,
Starting point is 00:54:14 we knew, you know, we knew where that fight was going to go as far as Tyra goes, but yeah, I don't know. I feel like he actually looked like in the brief moments that we got to see that fight against Tyra. I actually was pretty impressed with a guy stepping in on short notice. So I think he should be good enough to beat Silva. Yeah, Bruno Silva on a two-fight losing streak, but coming against Joshua Van and Manel Cop, can you really blame the guy? Like, that is the elite of the elite in this division. Yeah, am I misremembering this?
Starting point is 00:54:43 What round did Tyra win in? Like the second round? Yeah, very early on the second. Yeah, I think I remember being decently impressed by Park. You didn't go back and crunch the tape on UFC. No, I didn't go back to that one. Because for a guy who took this opportunity on short notice against a guy who is as good as Tyra, I think I came away going like, yeah, that guy could actually be a guy, I think.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And so I'll back him. I think he'll beat Silva. Your guy, left-hand two guy, Danny Barlow. Shut out. Taking on Jordan Santos. One of the biggest favorites on the card, minus 300. If Danny Barlow can do what Danny Barlow does, should be a short night, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:21 Coming off the loss of Sam Patterson got knocked out. That was a fun one because it was just these two lanky-ass big dudes. Swinging. And Sam Patterson was on the right end of that, so shout out to him. But, yeah, I think we'll see Danny Barlow do what Danny Barlow does. So I'm back in Danny on this one. A split versus Nikolai Verra Tenekov before that. You want to see him get back in the K.O. column.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah. I think he can do that here. but we'll see. We'll see. I'm not as confident as you and left hand too got. Great nickname. Great nickname. Drew Dober taking on the short-notice replacement against BSD earlier this year, Kyle Preppel. That's right. Yeah, doing a favor for the Canadian, putting him on a home country card. Remember, Kyle Prebleck? Like, he didn't look that bad in the first round. Ends up getting finished in the second, but, like, he didn't look terrible. Drew Dober's getting a little old.
Starting point is 00:56:13 regardless, Drew Dover's a minus 500. Yeah, I will go with Drew Dober, but to your point, like, in that first round, like, I had a similar takeaway that I had with Park where I was just like, okay, like, Preppalek actually can fight. Like, this is not just a, this is not just like a mercy killing. Like, he's not just in there to be a body and we're just going to walk through. But the best version of Dober is the guy who's, you know, slinging with the top lightweights in this division for as long as he's.
Starting point is 00:56:43 he has. And so I'm going to lean there. But you talk about needing a win, man. Manwell Torres lost, John Silva loss, Anato Moikano loss, win against Ricky Glenn, but then Matt Frivolta loss. And lots of, you know, knockout losses as well. For a guy that, like, used to have the iron-clad chin. Yeah, we saw the nasty cut against John Silva, where his, like, face was hanging up. Like, he's 36, but he's got a lot of miles. He's got a lot of miles. It's been a hard road to this point, he should still be good enough to be Preppelac, but I was like you, like, feeling like Preppelac
Starting point is 00:57:20 was better than I would have thought for a guy who was just stepping in there with no prep time. Obviously, Moikano, Silva, and Manuel Torres is a much tougher stress than Kyle Prepalek, but at minus 500. That's a lot. That's a hefty price for Drew Dober. For Drew Dober at this point in his career.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Ultimately, I'll pick Drew Dover, but definitely not touching him at the minus 500 odds point there. Osamot Bakayev Sort of MMA Twitter's darling For a couple weeks there Started getting pretty big for him And taking on Yusri
Starting point is 00:57:52 Belgaroi Belgarwi Yeah you know this one better than me Comes over from kickboxing He's the main Sparring partner for Alex Pereira He's the one that Alex has kind of been like Saying and I think he's had
Starting point is 00:58:06 Contender Series opportunities unless I'm mistaken He might have had multiple Yeah he lost on contendering series in 2023, then came back and won in 2020. And then, yeah. So, man, Eustry is, as far as kickboxing goes, Eustry was like the Uber prospect. He was this young guy, good looking, super long, super lean, comes in there, like, you know, Israel, Asana, Alex Perr, a level type guy, maybe even above as, as far as like straight traditional kickboxing goes.
Starting point is 00:58:36 And then like things kind of just didn't pan out. Glory had some, some issues. and he ultimately didn't find his way. But as far as striking goes, this is one of the best strikers on the planet. So you put him in an MMA fight against somebody who might potentially strike with him. I'm going to favor him. I feel like he's going to have a good opportunity. If it goes anywhere but the striking, it's going to be a bad time. He's also going to be five inches taller, six five against six foot and having seven inch reach advantage.
Starting point is 00:59:05 If it stays striking, Bukai's coaches need to get fired. Yes, agreed. Take him down. If you stand with him for any extended period of time, it's his realm and it's his world. And he, as you said, like physical gifts-wise, he is extremely gifted in that regard. Take him down and I think you're going to have a lot of success. Take him down. Iron Azamapokoev.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, this feels like a dub for him. Yeah, I'm going to favor him to go with e-restling and get it done. Maybe you're going to finish. A little G&P finished for Azamapakoyev. Solid card, though. Solid card taking place in Canada. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Seven fights with real Canadian, so not as many as I expected it to be.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Like, if you want to count Brennan and Allen, that makes it eight. I'm going to count Allen. Okay, all right, eight. Melissa Croden making her debut against Tainara, Lisboa, and the curtain jerker. Like Cruden there in the hometown. Charles Dordane, Davy Grant, Stephanie Luciano versus Ravenna Oliveira. Two Brazilians going at it.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah, it's a solid card, man. I'm really looking forward to this fight night. I'm hoping the Vancouver crowd brings it. The Canada card's always good for that. The fans always show out. They're always good. Oh, Canada. I feel like you just have shoulder pads on with this hockey jersey.
Starting point is 01:00:32 That is UFC Vancouver. Another really big benefit to this one, like we saw last week with Brazil I'm fighting a sneeze like hell right now I think I won't do it no oh you beat it yeah it's all in the brain now yeah yeah it was it was it was really fighting me hard I started watering there for a second not me getting emotional over UFC Vancouver
Starting point is 01:00:52 four o'clock start for Vancouver just like UFC Rio you like that yeah I actually ordered a second TV on Sunday for uh because I was watching college football on an iPad and I had UFC Rio on a TV and I was like you know know what? Just go ahead. Let's just go ahead and get a second TV. So debuting the second TV at the crib. Yeah, big baller, Roku TV for like $110. Man, couldn't they push it up to like 1 o'clock though? That would be like, I see. Listen, man, it's in Vancouver. So they're on Pacific time. So like it is 1 o'clock for Vancouver. Come on, 4 o'clock. We're done by 10, man.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad. It would be dual screening Georgia with a big game against Ole Miss this weekend, number four in the country. So, yeah. Yeah, there was a point last week when Charles is walking on. I'm like, whoa, it's early. Yeah, it's great. I got my, I got my night ahead of me. It's great. It's great. Keep that up. Keep that up. Four o'clock fight night start, eight o'clock pay-per-view main card start. That's the dream. That's what we're all fighting for out here. All right, that is UFC Vancouver. Great card this weekend. Going down in the Great White North. We will be back in just a moment with Parley Pals' bets. Pound for pound. Your voicemail, super chats. We're just getting started here. We'll be back in just a moment. Don't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:02:07 We are back, and we come out of the break with some breaking news. Our boy, an official boy in the back. One Malcolm Wellmaker, unfortunately lost his opponent, Sergey City, dealing with an injury at UFC 322, just up the road of Madison Square Garden. The good news is it looks like he's going to stay on the card. He has a new opponent, Australia's Cody Haddon. Look at Graphics Department.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Geez, Louise. they work fast back there no one works harder still on UFC 322 in New York City Cody Hatton coming off the contender series I believe
Starting point is 01:02:47 or has a win over Yeah he has a win I just looked this up He had a win over Dan Argetta Dan Argetta Which is a decent win Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:02:57 A year ago This weekend That being reported by Nolan King of MMA junkie He does a great job Shout out to Nolan King Oh hadn't was supposed to fight Taboria's brother at 312.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Oh, is that who... Okay, so that would make sense. Yeah, this just... I'm all right with it. Let's just keep getting Wellmaker fights, but... I was going to say, this feels like just to keep Wellmaker on the card, which I think is a smart move.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, man. You give him this big opportunity, MSG card, and he comes out with a nasty highlight real knockout, that's going to be a best case scenario for you. People in the chat seem to be showing some love to Haddon, said he had a good debut. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah, I mean, Argetta is a tough opponent. This is a way better fight. Tetra Booman says it's a way better fight. Actually, a step up says Matt M. M.A. There you go. People seem to think that this is a tougher out. So even better. I think if Wellmaker can look impressive here, the sky's the limit.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Cody Haddon only lost to one Steve Ersek. Yeah, he's pretty good, Steve Ursek. Yeah, it's not bad. He's not bad. I'm still taking Wellmaker until the day that I die. Official boy in the back. The machine, the other machine. Who is machine number one?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Do we give Marab preference on that? Like, is Marab the machine, and he's... Yes, Marab is undoubtedly the machine. I was just checking. We love Malcolm over here. I saw Martin Sanjo's got a fight, too. Is there any concern of a boys in the back curse getting created? Nah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Hotel Jackson, favorite... Who else? Bot for him. Just that. That's just the first one. No, Malcolm's going to... The Domino to fall. Malcolm's going to get one.
Starting point is 01:04:34 not. At MSG. We'll get no more guest. Jordan Levitt. Nah, Jordan's? Never know.
Starting point is 01:04:39 All right, let's do Parlay pals. Losers again last week. Surprise, surprise. I believe that's
Starting point is 01:04:46 eight straight losses for the boys. How did we blow it this time? Eight straight. Frankie blew it with the aforementioned honorary
Starting point is 01:04:55 born in the back Montel Jackson. Oh, I got to sit this one out. I forgot about that. I did ask if you want a replacement? Got no response.
Starting point is 01:05:02 You asked me? Yeah, yeah. What did I say? Who me? You didn't say anything. I just don't think you saw the text message. It's all good. No ways.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I would have taken Johnny. Walter out, got to go, Johnny. Oh, Johnny? I was like, who the fuck is Johnny? All right. I've already gotten Pizzi's pick. He's taking Underdog Dangerous Davy Grant. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah, I gave him a hard push to take Phil to freeze his guy, and he just said no. He said, that's against my ways. Don't want to go with pastime. You know, every once in a while, Pizzi does throw his pair on the table. And I respect it. Throwing his, uh, his 30 million on the table for a kitchen scrap. That was a great moment from Monday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Wednesday, I think that was yesterday. What? Yeah. No way. Yeah, if you missed yesterday's show, Pizzi went full on Irish, like, really, like, stereotypical. Wait, that was yesterday, man. Oh, my God. 30 million for a kitchen scrap, eh?
Starting point is 01:05:59 He didn't even notice he did it. Like, it's just so natural for him. Is 30 the easiest word to say with an Irish accent? For sure. Dirty. A kitchen scrap. We've heard of a kitchen scrap. What even is that?
Starting point is 01:06:13 Who is he even referring to? Like a fight in the kitchen, like just some bullshit. All right. Well, either way, his pick is dangerous, Davey Grant. Frank, you lead us off on a second, Ricky. Perfect. I actually want for Vera and Zahavi to go over two and a half. Oh.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Okay. Why? Yep. Why? Yeah, I'm asking why? I like the odds. Oh, okay. What are the odds?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Minus 2.35, 375 as of right now. Thanks. I appreciate that. I'm just going to keep believing. I'm going to go against the grain of my own brain and go with RDR. No, but you said you're feeling RDR at this moment. You're not going against your brain. No, my brain has always doubted RDR.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Oh, okay, okay. So I'm going against it. and believing in RDR. Yeah, I don't hate it. The price, you know, a little bit. Should I've gone, Jasmine? Oh, another dog? We're just dogging it up?
Starting point is 01:07:14 I think this is a good dog, Will. Nah, stick with... Stick with RDR. Every time I change my pick, I change our winning parlay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sticking with RDR. This, by the way, is going to be the time that you should have changed it, then we're going to get kicked in the teeth.
Starting point is 01:07:29 You alluded to it earlier. no bigger fan left hand to God Danny Barlow. Let's get done. The Danny Barlow diehard right here. It's a dub. It's a dub. It's a dumb way he's got Danny padded on his chest. No, Jordan. He said left hand of God, not
Starting point is 01:07:45 Danny Barlow. Left hand two. Number two. Left hand to God. We got to get on our graphics team. They're quick, but they're dumb. That's definitely not plus 172. I'm getting plus 515. So, you know
Starting point is 01:08:01 Wow, that's some quick men Graphics department I'll let them know, Frank, get on it I'll have to pay for that one I'll make sure to pass that on to them Nice speed, it's not cool if you're wrong, guys You learn that day one journalism school All right, before we get to my picks for this weekend
Starting point is 01:08:16 I do want to shout out a couple big hitters, three of them from UFC Rio always just someone cashing out and we start with Dravi MMMA out a few times. But man, I cannot imagine how crazy he was going in his living room when this one hit. Julia Pallastry by K.O. plus 1150. He smacks it for 200. He smacks it for 203. He smacks it for 1234. I think he was getting limited at some point. A payout of over 6,500. And then he also hits
Starting point is 01:08:51 Pallastri to win by finish plus 390, puts 900 on that, hits it for 4,200. And this is isn't even all the slips he sent me. These are the ones that I just cobbled together. Unbelievable. Over 10K. Couldn't imagine how nuts he was going for that finish. Shout out to Drobby MMA. We roll along. Now, do you think Dravie is the biggest Pallastri fan ever, or this is the fate of all fades against Carolina? I think it's a mix of both, but at that point I'm getting Pallastry's face tattooed on this stomach. For sure. What a call. Geo genero, another man we've shouted out many times on this program. Parlay odds of 261,755 turns 60 cents. Yep. Two quarters and a dime. Six times. Twelve nickels.
Starting point is 01:09:39 One quarter, one nickel, three dimes. 60 cents. You get the picture into $1,570.53. He goes, Palastri to win inside the distance. Lucas Rocha to win by decision. Buy a mosquito to win by submission. Vitor Petrino inside the distance. Jeffel Filo. buy submission in rounds one or two and Michael Aswell to win inside the distance unbelievable that's plus 261,000
Starting point is 01:10:07 7555 imagine if instead of 60 cents he'd put $6. Yeah that'd be a Life changing money yeah that'd be like a $15,000 payout and then last up Allen Legacy
Starting point is 01:10:19 but the L's are ones shout out Michael Aswell KO round one he definitely saw the Lucas Al made a broken hand con hopefully as a dog Charles Oliver by submission put them all together
Starting point is 01:10:30 plus 9641 $5 into $487 and we could have done a whole segment after this about bad beats from the Joel Alvarez not getting the K.O. Oh yeah. I had a plus 2,900 last leg being
Starting point is 01:10:48 Joel Alvarez by K.O. Didn't hit because of some faulty referee, some faulty judging, some faulty fighting action in the third round, but alas, I do feel for everyone that had that, but, you know, the game's the game, I guess. I feel your pain, I promise you, I do, because that was tough. All right, my picks for this weekend.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Melissa Croton, Liker, has a dog in her debut to get it done in front of her home crowd. This line is on the move. I grabbed the plus 105. Moving along, Nelson, Favola, under two and a half. six straight of knock on the distance. Kyle Nelson, last two. Finished and got finished, both in the first round. I think these boys are coming to scrap.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I think they're coming to put on a war. Do it for the bald beard brand. Kyle Nelson, shout out. We keep rolling. You know what it is. Jasmine. As a dog. We ride with her no matter what.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Cheers to her. Stay vicious. And then, in the main event, going against the brain. We're riding with RDR. He won't cost me any more money. unless he loses. And when I had bet on him,
Starting point is 01:12:00 like I did in one championship when he took on Anatoly Monkin also lost there. But we'll see. We'll see. RDR. I've been doubting him. Now I'm going to stop.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Now he might lose. I just want to be clear. Have you ever won a bet on a fight that RDR is in? No. I'm... You're O.N. 1 betting on him and then O in 1.
Starting point is 01:12:22 O and 2 betting on him. I bet on him in both in both. Like a dead one. dummy. I was like something had to have been wrong in the first one because he looked like such a chump. He looked like just as much of a chump. It's actually a bit of lore of me. That was in November of 2022 and he took on Anatoly Malkin. Yeah. And I bet on RDR, who is from the Netherlands. Yeah. The Dutch Knight. I bet against Kevin Holland. He won, which was unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:12:57 which also cost me, you know, Dutch night. Holland, yeah. Holland. Yeah. And then USA was playing Netherlands in the World Cup, and I bet on USA, and they also lost. There was a trifecta of the country of the Netherlands
Starting point is 01:13:10 bent in me over that weekend. So, yeah, she's never had luck with RDR. Hopefully that changes this weekend. I saw him on the streets of Des Moines when we were there and gave him knuckles. So shout out to him. Maybe that transference, like, did something there. No, because then he beat Bo Nicol that night.
Starting point is 01:13:26 And you bet on Bo? Oh, yeah. Yeah, heavy. And it's like one of those hindsight lines, it's just like, this fucking goes. Minus 300 against RDR, and I fucking put them at every parlay. I deserve to lose that one. That's the main event. Parlay.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Osama Pekoyev, I think he goes to the wrestling, and then over one and a half in Jasmine, and the Cheeto fights. I like those a lot. Two very durable fighters on both sides who don't get a ton of finishes. Those are the bets. Those are the picks. UFC, Vancouver. One last week on Rio. Let's start a winning streak.
Starting point is 01:13:56 in Vancouver rolling into UFC 321 you've been one away each time though oh and parley bows yeah we're always one away
Starting point is 01:14:05 we're gonna lose 15 straight and then we'll lose another 9 straight and then we'll lose another 9 straight and then we'll win one and it's just we suck we're terrible
Starting point is 01:14:12 it's hard to hit a four like parlor well you know we also like we never collectively as a team you know put in the work there's always one person who's like hey
Starting point is 01:14:21 just give me you know who's that person Frank Frank already hit the Who Me? All right, let's go to our pound for pound rankings for this week. Best 12-month runs, inspired by Marab de Vosvili's 2025. We're talking about the best 12-month runs we have seen in MMA history. We're not talking about a calendar year. We are talking about September 25th to September 24th the next year. That gives you a lot more wiggle room
Starting point is 01:14:45 for impressive runs. And man, there are some crazy ones. I'm very excited to talk about this one. The history of the game. I don't think a single one of mine happened. Yeah, not a single one mine happened in a calendar year. So you get a much different perspective than when you're looking at just the calendar years. Frankie, what's the order, brother? The order is January, February, no, the order will start with me, then it'll go to you, and then Rick will finish us off. All right. I think this is going to be good. I think it's going to be great discourse, and I think we're also going to have some good honorable mentions. Love it. Love to hear it. I actually went by calendar year instead of 12 months. I mean, it qualifies. Yeah. So mine is Shogun in 2005.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Okay. So he starts off, he gets the Pride middleweight, knocks out Rampage, then offers two, you know, a TKO and a KO and the Pride final conflict that year. And then kind of following along that with my number four is John... Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. I just want to say something. So proud of you, Frankie. Pride poll, number five?
Starting point is 01:15:45 Yeah. I love this. I love this. Warms my heart. But this feeds into my number four, which is John Jones in 2011. Yeah. Because he gets the light heavyweight from Shokun, right? But then he defends his belt and finishes Rampage.
Starting point is 01:15:59 So that goes to kind of my, almost my bell curve here, Dakota in 2024, four fights, four finishes, gets the flyweight world championship. Wow. Wow. 2024 Dakota Dichima over 2011, John Jones, in 2005, Shogun, Noah. Just saying, I'm a little bit newer to everything, right? Then we get my number two is Izzy in 2020, defends the middleweight from UL, defends a against Paul Acosta. But then Poetan takes number one for his 2022.
Starting point is 01:16:30 He knocks out Strickland, wins against Bruno Silva, and then takes that belt away from Izzy. Wins against Bruno Silva, then knocks out, Strickland, then takes the belt. Okay. All right. You're next. It's not a bad list.
Starting point is 01:16:43 If you just, like, flipped it upside down. Is that what you're listed? It'd actually be pretty great. But also, you know what? It ain't far away. The effort, you know. No, I like the pride. I like the pride there.
Starting point is 01:16:54 I love the pick of 05 Shogun, but putting Lisa Malden, Chelsea Hackett, Jenna Bishop, Tyler Santos run above Rampage, Liotto, Machita, Rashad Evans, Vitor Belfort. It's tough. It's tough. Okay. It's tough. All right. Over to me.
Starting point is 01:17:17 My number five, a man who was able to get four title defensive within a 12-month run. just not in the calendar year, and I'm going all the way back to the early 2000s. I'm going with Tito Ortiz, December of 2000 to September of 2001, only took him nine months. In that span, he headlines, UFC 29, UFC 30, takes off 31, UFC 32, and UFC 33. You can see the lineup right there. You can count over and Tanner Elvis Sinozik. Gets finishes in the first three, all in the first round, ends up not getting the finish in the final fight, but four title defenses,
Starting point is 01:17:57 unbelievable nine-month span for the Huntington Beach, bad boy. Look at the shorts. I know modern fans only know him as a meme, but there was a point where Tito was just like a monster. He was a caring the organization. Headline 29, 30, 32, and 33. Yeah. Four of five paper views.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Absolutely. Insane work by him. Insane. Not even 12 months. Nine months. December of 2000 to September of 2001. That man must have been on a high of no highs. of all highs. Number four, similar to Frank, the John Jones 2011, but I'm actually going to take it
Starting point is 01:18:29 September of 2011 to September of 2012. He sneaks in on this 12-month run by just two days. He also, four title defenses, Rampage, Leota Machita, Rashad Evans, Vitor Bellfort, finishes all but one of them as well in this one, doing this at 24 and 25 years old. The pictures that came out of this, I believe that's Rampage right there. This one, the sleeping. Like, are you kidding me? Against absolute legends of the game at this point. By the way, shout out Yahoo Sports.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Shout out to Yahoo Sports, taking over the game. Unreal run from September in 2011 to 2012 by John Jones. Number three. Connor McGregor, December of 2015 to November of 2016. The only reason that this is not number one, is because he has a loss in there, but the just sheer cultural impact that this run had on the sport of MMA
Starting point is 01:19:29 and the world as a whole. K.O. Zaldo in 13 seconds. Featherway, by the way, wins the featherway belt in 13 seconds, goes up to Welterweight to take on Nate Diaz in a massive fight. All of these headlining UFC, of course. All of these are headlining.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Which was a short notice that he accepted. A gazillion buys on pay-per-view. Short-notice, accepts it. Doesn't get it done. Gets his get back in all. August gets it done there by majority of decision. Oh, yeah, and then we're going to go to 155, headline the first ever MSG show, also become the first ever double champion in UFC history.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Like, this is peak right here. Like, this is the peak of all peaks, right here, November 20th. This is the peak of MMA. Yeah, like this, you're at MSG, you've got a double champion. You've got a super duper duper star on your hands. The only reason that that is not number one is because he had the loss to an A. Diaz, but the impact that that run had was something that we have not seen since, and I don't know if we will ever see again.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Number two, your number five, I believe, Frankie. I'm going to go with Shogun Hua from October 2004 to October of August of 2005, 6-0, wins the Pride 205 Grand Prix, Rampage, Lil Nog, Overeem, and Ream, and Ricardo, and Ricardo, Corona in the same night. The pictures that also came out of this one, similar to the John Jones, also, I know that it was, you know, 10 minute rounds or whatever it was, first round finish, first round finish, first round finish, first round finish, first round finish. Decision against a little knock. The pictures that came out of this, from the pride era, like, diving, like look at this. This is full on, this looks like a football picture right here. Absolutely insane. The dive right there. The stomps. Insane run. Legendary making. running. Yeah, we got the stomps. Like, this is just crazy. Grabbing the rope, the soccer kicks. Unreal run. Unreal run. Gets the massive oversized pride trophy with the pride belt. Amazing stuff from Shogun Who. And then that leads me to my number one, much more recent. Similar to your number one, Frankie, but I'm not going with this 2022. I'm going with his July
Starting point is 01:21:46 2023 to his July 2024 and that is won Alex Poetotan Pereira. Debues at 205 against former champion Jan Blahovich. Gets the dub. Goes on to headline Madison Square Garden against former champion Yuri Prohashka.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Gets the finish. Gets the belt. Gets the dub. Goes on to headline UFC 300 against former champion Jamal Hill gets the knockout, gets the dub. Oh, yep. Call Poetan. Goes to headline International Fight Week against former champion, Uri Prohashka once again,
Starting point is 01:22:23 gets the knockout, gets the dub, 4-0 against all former champions. And along the way, makes his debut at 205, gets the belt at 205, headlines MSG, UFC 300, and International Fight Week. Insane generational run. That is my five. Yeah, and some overlap there, right? Like the Shogun and Jones for you two, like are pretty consistently, mentioned in a lot of these.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Respect. Very, very well done. All right, I'm going to kick mine off with one that with a little bit of extra help could have been even crazier. But I went with Amanda Nunes from March of 16 onward, which includes her wins over Ronda Rousey, Misha Tate, and Valentina Shevchenko. If you extended it a little bit in either direction, you could have added like a Pennington or in the other way, in the other direction. You get a Sarah McMahon,
Starting point is 01:23:21 but this is a three-fight streak that I think is one of the top like 12-month stretches in women's MMA. I looked into Amanan Nunez. If you make it from just, you have it starting in March 2016, obviously, it just goes to 12 months.
Starting point is 01:23:34 If you extend it to July 2019, Valentina, finishes Misha Tate, finishes Ronda, Valentina again, finishes Rockout Pennington, finishes Chris Cyborg, finishes Hollyholm.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Yeah. Unbelievable. The Nunes. championship run was ridiculous, truly ridiculous. May never see anything like it again in women's amendment. And the only thing stopping her from being even more recognized and higher on this list is just that there's less frequent women's fights. If she was able to compete as much as the men did, she would have been dominating this
Starting point is 01:24:04 list because on that run, she was absolutely incredible. So shout out to the lioness, shout out to Amanda Nunes. My number four, it's the same one as you. It's the Connor McGregor run. It's the one that includes the Aldo, the loss to Nate, the win over Nate, and then the Eddie Alvarez fight. Magic. Just truly a magical time, the pinnacle of our sport, the best, the highest peak of achievement in this sport was when Connor McGregor did that double champ on the heels of finishing, of getting his get back against Nate, on the heels of knocking out Aldo in 13 seconds. There will never be another.
Starting point is 01:24:40 There will never be a moment like that. There will be some that, like, feel big and come close. that was the pinnacle of achievement in MMA at that moment and probably forever. Number three, so here's where I'm pulling one that we haven't quite touched on yet. This one's going back a little deeper. This one is Fador, the legendary Fadour Amelianenko,
Starting point is 01:25:00 from December 03 a year onward. Basically, I didn't do like an end point that was a fight. I just did like the year. Like we'll end at the year point. And so here's what Fader was able to do in that stretch. Eugene Nagata, TKO, Mark Coleman, sub, Kevin Randleman, sub, Noya Ogawa, sub, Big Nog, no contest. There was a clash of heads. Big Nog unanimous decision. At the time, these are like the names of, like, Coleman, Randleman, Big Nog is like, yo, like you're obviously the guy. Then, you know, from the years subsequent to this, we start to get into the Fedor, Crow, Cop. Like, now even more names start to enter the fray. and it becomes where they're facing off. But man, to have, like, it could have been two wins over Big Nog.
Starting point is 01:25:50 The reason that they rebook this was because part of it was a tournament. So now they had to book, rebook Fador and Big Nog. But to get to cap that year off with a win over Big Nog, that's five wins in six fights, one of them in no contest. Like, that was some special stuff. If you look at any, like, slice of Fador years, you could go a year before, you could go a year after. He's going to have some crazy stuff going on there. But Fador was untouchable at that time.
Starting point is 01:26:13 and then number two and number one I think are going to be pretty obvious at this point number two was the John Jones February 2011 to February 2012 run basically that title one I shifted mine a little bit you shifted yours back
Starting point is 01:26:27 let me see where I had it I'm going to bring up John Barrett yeah I went September 11 to September 12 so you went you wanted the Rashad Evans and the Vitor in there I went the other way where I wanted Ryan Bader in there so this
Starting point is 01:26:43 the one I have ends up being Bader sub, Shogun, TKO because I thought Bader and Shogun were probably better wins than Rashad and Vitor. Bader sub, Shogun TKO, Rampage Sub, Leoto Sub. That also happens to be a calendar year. That is within
Starting point is 01:27:01 a calendar year. His 11 and 12 is insane. His everything during that time. Beat Bader, who was at the time the other Uber prospect that was basically John Jones was pretty obvious but there was a point where it was like
Starting point is 01:27:17 Bader versus Jones was the conversation around who is going to be the star of MMA in the future and then John Jones just blew the doors off Bader and obviously we saw how that went the Shogun win was mind-blowing stepped in for teammate Rashad Evans took him out and goes on to become champion and then to do what he did to Rampage
Starting point is 01:27:35 and Machita in subsequent fights it was hard to top that but only one man cut to top that I actually think I might have given Jordan the wrong years, but let me look back at it real quick. It's Shogunhua. It's Shogunhuah in that 05 pride run. But I extended it maybe a little bit differently. I might have like dropped one fight that I could have that you had. But Kanihara, Rampage, Little Nag, Overeem, Ricardo Arona. Again, like I was talking about with Fador, this at the time is cream of the crop stuff and the way that he was doing it,
Starting point is 01:28:10 the way that he was just dispatching of every TKO, TKO, TKO, unanimous decision over Little Nog in a fight of the century type fight. TKO, KO, K, O, like, Shogun was untouchable. And that's why when people look back at, like, the Shogun John Jones thing, I'm like, yeah, you guys don't really know what Shogun was. Like, to do what John Jones did to Shogun was pretty incredible,
Starting point is 01:28:34 considering what Shogun had been able to do in the past, that run was magical. And so, yeah, Shogun and Jones, I think, are probably like the unanimous best years calendar-wise or 12-month stretch in U.S.E history. Shout out to him. Sorry, MMA history. That's a solid list. That is a solid list. Yeah, I do feel like those runs by those two guys are pretty unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:28:57 But lest we forget, 24 Dakota Dishua. Shout out to Dakota. Is he two wins. 2020, Alex Pereira. Did you have some honorable mentions? Oh, I sure did. I do. I sure do. What do you got? The Amanda Nune's run is just crazy. One that could be interesting, Josh Van. Whoa, what? Tell me.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Him making his run from September 2024 to June 2025. He's 5-0. He has the chance to win five fights in a calendar year if he beats Pantosia and go from unranked to second youngest champion in UFC history and in Pantosier's run if he wins in December. Okay. Where does Marab rank? he does it. If he beats Piotr-Yon, where does that 12-months rank? So it's interesting because several of these guys have four title defenses in a 12-month span. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Like, does it go above 11 Jones? I don't think so. I don't think it goes above Shogun either. I'll be honest. I think it's a conversation with 11 Jones. I think it's actually a conversation. Because I think any of those four Marab wins is better than the Bader one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:09 What about his four title defenses? Rampage Machita, Evans, Belfort. I rate the Bader and Shogun over the V-Tor and-E-Tor. Even with where Shogun was at in his career. Yeah, yeah, even then. I think we, like, everybody loves to shit on John Jones. We have to, hold on, let me go back to where. I'll tell you exactly where Shogun was at in his career.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Some other ones, the aforementioned earlier in the show. Chris Weidman, July 2013, July 2014, becomes undefeated champion by snapping Anderson Silva's record 16-fight win streak, beats him again, obviously the leg injury, and then beats Leotomychita. Not a bad run. Not a very good run. Sean Strickland, December 22 to September 23, loses to Imovob or loses to cannoneer, fights Imavov, beats Abbas, and then gets the coincidental Israel-A-Saniat, title shot capitalizes on it. goes from a loss to Canaanator to being the world champion.
Starting point is 01:31:11 That's a pretty, as far as like unexpected ones, that's a pretty great one. All right, so here's what happened with Shogun. Since that magical 2015, we're going to, we're going to bridge the gap between, sorry, between the magical 2005 and the 2011 John Jones fight. We're going to bridge the gap. I'm going to tell you what happened in that time. There's a loss to Mark Coleman due to a broken arm, but then TKO over Cyril Diabate beats Kevin Randleman, beats Nakamura, beats Overeem,
Starting point is 01:31:40 lost to Forrest Griffin in a huge shocking upset, comes back, beats Coleman, beats Chuck Ladell, loses a very janky decision to Leota Machita, gets revenge against Leoto Machita, and then loses to John Jones. So outside of breaking his arm, a janky decision against Leoto Machita and the upset lost to Forrest Griffin,
Starting point is 01:32:00 like Shokun was still Shogun at this point. So this revision of history, people are like, John beat like washed guys. Rampage was washed. Shogun was washed. Everybody was washed. Rashad was washed by then, even though Rashad was fully in his prime. It's, it's complete nonsense. Glover Tashira was 10 years away from when he would actually become a champion when John Jones beat him. This idea that all these guys were washed is complete bullshit. Some honorable mentions for me. Also, Shogun ended up fighting in the UFC for 13 more fights and 12 more years. Yeah, exactly. So, I,
Starting point is 01:32:35 I am very offended, but when people do this, like, revisionist history about John Jones. Okay, two honorable mentions for me. Crow cop from May of 2004 and a year extended from there. Wins over Kanihara, Oiyama, Alex Emiliaenko, Fador's brother. Josh Barnett, Kevin Randleman, Mark Coleman. It's a pretty nasty run, and there's some other crow crop runs that are equally impressive. Henry Suhudo from August 18 to August 19 beats Demetrius Johnson, beach T.J. Dillashaw, who at the times are probably like their respective,
Starting point is 01:33:17 like two of the best in those divisions at any given time, and then knocks out Marlon Mariahs as well. Now, there will be some who will kind of call into question that DJ fight and say, did Henry actually win that fight? But if you're just looking at what's on wax, Suhudo beat DJ, T.J. and Marias in a one-year span, which is pretty gnarly stuff. I also, after I had completed my list,
Starting point is 01:33:39 I ended up not changing anything from my list, but I did reach out to the scribe, the sage, the most wise man I know when it comes to this MMA history stuff, Kaposa, and he had some ones that... Oh, I'd love to hear this. God, I'd love to hear this. That I considered, I looked at, but I ultimately did not end up putting on my list.
Starting point is 01:33:56 They didn't knock any of mine off. There was a run by Takenori Gomi, who... That name doesn't mean anything to you, but he was widely considered like the best lightweight for a solid period of time. There was a period in there
Starting point is 01:34:09 from December 04 to December 05 where he had six he had six wins including knockouts over Azaredo, Sakurai, Kawagiri and Jens Pulver winning a Grand Prix. Again, at the time,
Starting point is 01:34:23 these are the names. Like these are the guys, especially Jens obviously and Kawajiri and even Sakurai. Like these are the names of the era and he was, like untouchable at that time. Vanderlea Silva from November
Starting point is 01:34:37 03, shot out to Coposo by the way. He did this off dome, I think. Vanderlea Silva from November of 03 to November, like basically October or November of 03, 5 and 0 winning the Grand Prix. It includes the most significant one of the rampage
Starting point is 01:34:53 fights because there were multiple Vanderley and Rampage was a huge rivalry and pride and it had one of the most significant ones, the one that ended with him basically throwing Rampage through the ropes that was in that that was in that stretch big nog went six and oh from february o one to february two wins including mark coleman heath herring ensign in a way claimed the the pride heavyweight title the inaugural the inaugural belt and he kind of had like an insane 2020 as well
Starting point is 01:35:26 josie aldo from november 08 to november 09 5 and 0 with five stoppages this is when when Aldo was like really Aldo. I know like Cub Swanson's in there. Mike Brown is in there. Maybe Uriah Faber might be in that stretch. There was quite a bit of Josie Aldo dominance in that stretch. Habib from October 18 to October 19. Three title defenses, McGregor, Pori, Gachie.
Starting point is 01:35:51 That's not bad. It's not bad. And then Dan Henderson's 2011 got the Strike Force belt, knocked out Fador, fought Shogun in another like potentially fight of the century type fight so Dan Henderson had a good 2011 but shout out to shout out to Kaposa for providing some of those didn't knock any of mine off the list probably there's something on there that could have edged Amanda but I did want to give her recognition because like the three wins that she had in that stretch are very hard to come by for women considering the activity level that the UFC has for them
Starting point is 01:36:23 and I thought she was incredible at that moment shout to Kaposa man that's that's I love the history like I love getting into stuff like this and who would know better in Caposa. Don Frye, 1996. Oh shit, tell me. 11 fights. 10 and 1 won them all by finish, won the UFC 8 tournament,
Starting point is 01:36:45 won the UFC 11.5 tournament. Can you name even one of the opponents? Would you recognize even one of the opponent's names? I think the one loss was the Mark Coleman. Okay, there you go. Neil Magne went 7-0 over a 15-month span. That's still nuts. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:04 In the UFC, in 2014, 2015, 15 months, he went 7-0. That is actually crazy. Kevin Holland and Neil Magny have some bananas ones. That would be like someone started in July of 24, which is not that long ago. Let's say they started on UFC 304, the Tom Aspinall card, the last time Tom Aspinall fight. And then they're fighting next week. Oh, my God, this is actually a perfect comparison. And then they're fighting again next weekend, Tom Aspinall.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Fight to fight UFC 3040, UFC 321. Tom Aspenall, that will be two fights. Imagine someone going for 7 and 0 in that time span. That's what Neil Magny was able to do. Yeah, you are fighting twice a month every single – sorry, not twice a month. You're fighting every two months consistently. Crazy. That's pretty nuts.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Every two months. We'd be like, no down. This guy is 6 and 0 since the last time Tom Aspinall fighting. Now he's fighting again on the same card. Bananas. Shout out Neil Magney Most wins Welterweight history You can see why when he goes on runs like that
Starting point is 01:38:08 He's going to have some stats that are going to be Like when people look at the history book Neil fucking Magny No no opposite We're going to be watching a TikTok Or whatever the TikTok equivalent is 10 years from now Where somebody's like
Starting point is 01:38:19 How is nobody talking about how Neil Magny is the greatest fighter of all time Like that's what's actually going to be the conversation Shout out Neil Magny Sleeper little Steve Urseg June 2023 to May 24 Makes the US debut, then goes on three straight, David DeVorek, Alessandro Costa, Matt Schnell,
Starting point is 01:38:37 not that crazy in names, but he gets the title shot and comes one round short, one takedown short of beating Alessandro Fentosa. If he beat Pantosia, I think that's up there. That's like in the combo. Kevin Holland from May 2020 to April 2021, seven fights, but went five and two. Still crazy. Still crazy. That he's seven fights in 12 months, and right now he's looking to go six in 2025 is absolutely insane. Nobody puts up numbers like Kevin Holland. Nobody. Rose from April 2017 to April
Starting point is 01:39:08 2018 went Michelle Waterson and Yawanna twice. Not bad. That's pretty good. Not bad. I think that's everyone I got though. This one was fun, man. It was fun to go through the history. It was nice to dig back to history. I ended up in the point where I assumed I would which is the runs by
Starting point is 01:39:24 Shogun, the run by Shogun in 05 and the run by John Jones in 2011 are just like in a pantheon that is like so hard to touch and boys walking around back then it must have been talking about feeling yourself if Marab wins
Starting point is 01:39:38 in December I'm willing to have a conversation that I think he enters the territory four title defenses against top top top top guys I'm willing to at least have a conversation about it I think there's a case to be made
Starting point is 01:39:52 about the eclipsing the Jones one also if he wins that'll be five title fight wins for him 15 wins in a row, man. He'll be one short of of Anderson Silva at that point. Nuts.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Islamakashov in a couple weeks. Although I will say the one thing, the Umar fight was competitive in a way that the runs by Shogun and John Jones were not. These were curb stompings. Like, they were just wrecking everybody.
Starting point is 01:40:20 So I do think that that matters. But man, like, if I'm assigning a value, like let's say this was done by like assign a points value, you, a close fight over Umar where you pull away at the end to me means more than starching Ryan Bader. I just, I just rate Umar higher as a top tier, uh, championship level contender. And so it gets into the nitty gritty of that. I think there's arguments that could
Starting point is 01:40:45 be made, but it will also depend. How do you beat Peodorian? If you blank him the way you did the first fight, yeah, like that's going to be a pretty damn impressive achievement. If you even finish them, now we're talking like different, different sauce. But I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm ready to have the conversation I don't think anyone's going to be crazy It'd be crazy Absolutely nuts Yeah man
Starting point is 01:41:05 It's not gonna be the biggest Selling pay-review of all time That's for sure But like I cannot wait I can't wait for these For these last three dude The The Hamzat
Starting point is 01:41:16 DDP was my Super Bowl This is my NBA finals This is my like I can't wait for it man To get to get Van versus Pantosia And Mara versus Jan on the same card For me is like This is Christmas
Starting point is 01:41:27 This is a late Christmas Or early Christmas Did you miss? Tattoo early. Tatsuu-O-Tire Brennan is legit too
Starting point is 01:41:33 man. Yeah, these last three pay-per-views. Aspenol fighting. So, like, that's the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 01:41:37 uh, as is 322. If you're not watching you're a casual, sorry, that's, I don't make the rules. You're just,
Starting point is 01:41:42 you're just a fucking casual. If you're not watching U.S. 322. And then 323 is a banger as well. If the chat has any other runs, drop them in there. Drop, drop, drop, drop,
Starting point is 01:41:50 we'll try and do it by the end of the, we'll try and do it by the end of the end of, like look these up. Yeah. Boss Rutan and Pancreis went 7 and 0 with seven finishes. Once you start going back, there are some ones like that. There was another Crow Cop run that was probably pretty nuts as well. I mean, you're never going to get me to talk bad about Boss Ruden.
Starting point is 01:42:13 He was the star of the show in Smashing Machine. Smashing Machine. So shout out to him. I'm sure there's some. Yeah, see, this doesn't quite span. This one doesn't quite, like, you could do an 09 to 2010, which is Struve, Crow Cop, Gilbert, Ival, if you're doing JDS, but nah, it doesn't quite hit. Let me look at this boss written one real quick
Starting point is 01:42:33 before we move on to voicemails. El Guapo. Boss is the freaking man. I mean, what even year was it? Like, good Lord, he was putting up numbers when he came to fights from, my God, from December, dude, starting in September of 1993, he had, from September of 1993,
Starting point is 01:42:57 to December of 1997 so I guess that's five years he had 28 professional fights that's six a year almost that's fucking insane yeah and he went 23 four and one over that stretch those guys used to get busy and also uh there's tournaments and things like that um Dutch like Dutch guys the kickboxers in particular you know how like whenever we talk about Alex and Izzy and how they were like super active a lot of it harkens back to in kickboxing you're fighting every month every two months like that's just how that goes is he has a hundred i think it is i think a hundred kickboxing fights or no now he has like over a hundred uh combat sports fights but the majority of those kickboxing kickboxers man they they they get them in they just get the activity about the tournaments
Starting point is 01:43:48 you didn't not a single one tournament yeah every one of them is on separate nights nuts man i i wish i had time to like really dig into boss to to like the boss to like the boss run because there's there's some where he's fighting on March 22nd then he's fighting again on April 27th like I bet there had boss on the show while you worked here uh I think one time he's the fucking man he's the fucking man good time only losses to the shamrocks yeah Ken twice Frank once and uh masakatsu Funaki in 1994 little toll hold action I might see if there's any like docs on Utah oh there's there's video there's videos with boss boss well tell you all about boss there's there's
Starting point is 01:44:26 plenty of stuff out there's good for the bald brand too shout out the boss man absolute illusion looking good still looking looking great if i can look half as good at boss as at his age uh i mean just the ripe age of uh of 60 if i can look that good at 60 you know what's a tell me you look good without telling me you look good when you play yourself in a movie of yourself from three decades ago yeah shout at the boss root man uh frankie we got any voicemails anyone leave one oh we should know voice mails Ahoy, hoi, hoi. Boys in the back.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Dear guy, Matt from Nashville. Hey, what up, Matt? It's 427 driving into work this morning. What time is where to start, bro? I woke up with Return of the Mac, stuck in my head so hard. Return of the Mac. Because it's Thursday, because I'm stoked about the boys in the back being on today. You guys should just, you know, maybe replace your theme song sometimes from the,
Starting point is 01:45:23 bu, but, but, but, boys. Wow. something like boys in the back to the tune of Return of the Mac The Boys in the Back A little something like this
Starting point is 01:45:33 Some boys in the Mac The Boys in the Back I actually like this And the boys are in the back Reminders, this is 427 a. Anyways, love you guys On the way to work My guy
Starting point is 01:45:51 I love that idea Matt from Nashville Bringing the Energy Shout out. That's a great call and a great idea. The pipes aren't bad. Matt, not bad. Frankie, yeah. I mean, if we could get an HD recording from Matt of him doing that, we could mix that up. Hey, boys. This is Diego. I'm a student at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism in that communication. And I'm someone who really wants to get into combat sports journalism.
Starting point is 01:46:20 I love listening to you guys every week heading into classes, every month. morning so it's been great my question for you is of course the smashing machine a great film on the life of mark cur what fighter from this era do you think could be a real contender for having a big film down the line i think perera which you might say is recency bias is a great pick and of course francis and ghanu how you can not say him so let me know what you think uh appreciate the call shout to the walter kronkite school shout to arizona state uh forkum is that is that forks up. Forks up.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Something like that. Shout out, me and my discombobulated finger. It's as straight as it goes. What happened? I almost cut it off. Speaking of Shogun, who was 2005? In my 2005, I cut this down to the bone, cut every nerve and tendon, couldn't feel a thing.
Starting point is 01:47:11 The first I've heard of this. Seriously? Yeah. Had to have a surgery. Yeah, like look at how straight this pink is. Look at that. It's freaky. This is as straight as it'll possibly go.
Starting point is 01:47:20 It's even hooked this way, too. Like, if you show it front-wise, it's like curve. yeah yeah it's Connor if you ever become a pirate can we just call you like crooked it's actually like really fucked like this uh yeah this and then uh a few years ago I was at a wedding and I was in charge of opening a bottle of wine and I was like pulling it open and didn't notice that the wine was like lifting up off of the counter because I was pulling so hard no one could get this thing open finally it opens and like hand goes up with the cork other hand goes down with the bottle completely smashes
Starting point is 01:47:55 on the countertop, my hand goes through it, same pinky, cut to shit. I was a part-time employee at ESPN at the time, and I had dog shit health insurance, and I was like, no, I was like, I can't go to the hospital, like, it's going to cost so much money, pulling up blood. I try to make it stop bleeding for like 45 minutes. It never stops. End up having to get like 13 stitches. Same pinky could barely even feel it, because like, this feels like my hands like asleep. It's a trip, so yeah. Pinky's been through a lot. So you have a loss of some sensation. here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, dude, for like years after the surgery, like legitimately
Starting point is 01:48:29 was just like static. Wow. It was like fuzzy, yeah. Oh, yeah. The fact that you're even, you have the like mobility to like bend it. Dude, when I cut it, I was like 13. When I cut it on a knife, I was like, fucking around being done with a knife. Cut it open. And I was like, oh, like one of my friends was like, are you all right? I was like, yeah, why? And he's like, look at your hand. Pools of blood. Pools of blood. Because I couldn't feel it because I cut all the Yeah, why. Oh, your fingers are. And I was just like, oh! I was like, oh, fuck. And I thought it was going to come off.
Starting point is 01:48:58 So I bent it back, and the bone, like, stuck out. And I was like, oh, fuck, someone help me. Someone help me on my fingers going to fall off. I'd, like, legit thought I was going to die. I was freaking out so much. Even though I couldn't feel anything, blood is just spilling out of my head. I'm, like, 13, freaking out. I was at a camp, too.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Had to go to a hospital. They had to, like, glue it shut. And then they fucking dragged my ass back to camp, and I had to sleep in this, like, dirty nasty tent didn't keep you overnight no it's dirty at nasty ass tent just with my hand just like glued together crazy time people used to be tough back then you know it's I mean I was I was I was crying like a bitch yeah but I just mean like throw some dirt on it throw you back to camp like literally they glued it shut and they were like all right send them back to the dirty tent
Starting point is 01:49:47 maybe hopefully it won't get infected we'll trust the 13 year old to not get infected love it uh what stories will create movies, that wouldn't make a bad movie. A nice little short about me, almost in my hand. Fighters, though. Francis feels like the number one for me. That's like the go-to. Who else can make a good one, man? I mean, like, maybe like this...
Starting point is 01:50:06 It felt like a multi-franchise Pereira, Adasania rivalry movie, kind of rocky style. That's not a bad show. Become friends. You know what I wouldn't mind that might be interesting is like the rise of the Dagestanis. You sort of have like the whole tribe. Is it the name of the movie, too?
Starting point is 01:50:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the name is called Father's Plant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, Jordan's cooking right now. The Rise of the Dagestanis. Jordan's about to start producing. Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot, Jordan.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Yeah, I would go with that one. I'm racking my brain as other ones. The key to these is it's going to be obvious if it's like they're good in the ring, right? You have to have some kind of like stories beyond that. You've got to have the crazy story beyond it, yeah. That's a good question. That's why Francis is so nice.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Oh, God, yeah. It's a great one. Boys in the back, what's good. Hollywood. J.D. calling from Austin, Texas, Bay. Hey, shout out. Shout out, Sam Ellinger. We're back.
Starting point is 01:51:06 So last week, you guys did the pound for pound borough's list, and it inspired this call because next week, my wife and I are traveling to New York for the first time ever. We are staying in Queens, so it's pretty high when we're headed as number one. And then I got brought back down a little bit when Frank and G.C. were shitting on it. So, yeah, it's tough. Yeah, not going to have much accessible. By the way, it's all good. We're going to be moving around, seeing this, seeing that.
Starting point is 01:51:36 The question is, could you give me your number one must go to grab a bite-to-eat place in your borough? I think each of you had a different borough. Wow, we do. So just number one, nothing too fancy, no reservation required, just popping in. grabbing a bite saying fuck that's delicious shout out action shout out action um
Starting point is 01:51:58 that's it appreciate you guys uh love your show look forward to it every week peace uh first of all enjoy your trip to new york city second of all
Starting point is 01:52:09 you know we kind of got shit on for that one I think we bounced back though I think we bounced back for the good one this was MMA very heavy a lot of people did not fail to let me know that they don't give a fuck about the burrows i was like all right I got it yeah they're jealous the Bronx
Starting point is 01:52:22 that's exactly what a New Yorker would say they're jealous and they're like no no no no no jealous I legitimately don't care about New York City no they're jealous best number one place to get a bite to eat dude there's so many and like the difficult thing is you do Manhattan though yeah yeah you're saying you're saying no reservations man that's that's difficult dude that's difficult I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with because you're an MMA fan
Starting point is 01:52:48 go to the old Tbilisi Garden speaking of Maraub I've been craving some Georgian food lately Get you the Kachapori, the dumplings, the breadboat filled with cheese. Yeah, shout out. That's where I'm going to go with Old Tbilisi Garden. Branky, we got like a Brooklyn one? Yeah, go to a rosy pizza bar out in East Williamsburg. I like it.
Starting point is 01:53:10 You're going to be in Queens. You're blessed. You're a lucky man. Just head to Flushing. There's a section of Queens called Flushing. It's got every Asian type of food that you could want. I would dare say better than Chinatown. in terms of the options there and just walk around.
Starting point is 01:53:26 You'll find a spot. They've got Shanghai, they got Taiwanese, they got Chinese, they've got Japanese, they've got the romans, they've got the sushi's, they've got Korean food. You will find any type of Asian food. Maybe do a dim sum, maybe find like a nice banquet hall, do a dim sum there. But even more than that, like depending on the weather, you can walk around. There's cart food. There's all kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:53:50 spend some time in flushing grab some Asian food there's there's no shortage of it if you're even close go back multiple times but that's that's always my tip if you're new if you're in new york go to flushing and just walk around the good news is is anywhere new york i mean manhattan queen's brooklyn you can go anywhere and and get excellent food this i used to always be like oh yeah the food here is all right now that i've like really learned the food here is unbelievable because of the vast amount of different types of food you can get and it be top top top notch uh just in It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:54:21 I've never been a fan of the like, what's the best slice in New York debate? Because my thing about New York is anywhere you go on any corner, other than like the dollar slice and even sometimes those, the pizza is going to be great. New York's thing is you can walk one block any direction and you will find some good food anywhere. That's kind of the key. My number one tourist thing, Empire State Building. Shout out right behind us. Favorite building, ESB, favorite building in the city. We are going to take another quick break back.
Starting point is 01:54:50 with the rest of your voicemails. I'm going to attempt to do the unthinkable and run to the bathroom during the commercial break. Will I accomplish it? We'll find out. Stick around. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Welcome back. I made it back. He made it back. He did, even though we started on my single. There he is. Look, he's in the chair. It is possible. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:08 I don't know if Frank had the mics up if they can hear you screaming as you can hear the door open. You should have seen everyone in the office. I am hauling ass through it because I can get in my ear like how much time we have left. Wow, wash the hands and everything.
Starting point is 01:55:23 In three, two. We made, we made. Good job, Connor. Yo, boys in the back. What's good, bro? It's Jimmer. Jimmer. So next week, my little brother,
Starting point is 01:55:37 his brother right underneath me, is getting married, and he's made me the best man in the wedding. Grats here, brother. Sick. I have the honors of giving a speech in front of 100 people, And let's just say, besides doing these voicemails, Jimmer isn't necessarily the best public speakers. So I was just wondering if you guys had any advice,
Starting point is 01:55:59 have you ever done anything like this, you know, just any general advice you give to me about speaking in front of a large group of people. But anyways, I have a question this week. Frankie, Mario, or Zelda? All right, deuces, love you guys. Why don't we start there, Frankie? What's the answer?
Starting point is 01:56:19 Actually, we were having a little bit of a production conversation back here. Mario or Zelda? Zelda all the way. All the way. You too? All the time go. Love Mario. 64 Sunshine.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Galaxy. Love Mario. But Zelda, dude, it's on top. I think I'm probably Mario, but just so. Like, edges it out. Those are two top tier franchises. Working through tiers of the kingdom right now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Where'd you get that? Thanks, Frankie. Frankie got it from our 30th birthday. Frank, go back to not paying attention. No presents on my 31st. No presents on my 32nd. It's all good, though. Would you say, Rick?
Starting point is 01:56:50 I said, go back to not paying attention. It was better. Advice for public speaking. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm not going to sit here and be like the guy who's like, oh, imagine them all in their underwear. Like, just know that like you're going to have like the nerves when you get up there. It's just like unavoidable. Even if you're like you're not scared of it.
Starting point is 01:57:07 Like you're going to have like butterflies. You're going to get up there and there's going to be a ton of people looking back at you. Like you just have to accept that and know that you'll be a little bit nerve. You kind of embrace that energy to put you on one. And then just remember like, no one really. gives a shit like there's there's two ways that it goes that they'll remember you you either bomb and it's just like holy shit you get a load of jimmer up there yeah he completely flopped avoid that and like you'll be fine because then if you just give a normal regular speech people will be like
Starting point is 01:57:33 oh yeah like that was a nice speech whatever or you could like absolutely kill it that takes like some special writing and some special delivery where people are like oh that was so incredible but like if you get that in between everyone's just going to be like oh yeah those were nice words man Yeah, and I feel like that's almost like the landing spot you want, right? It's like, think about your, put jimmer, take a moment and put yourself in the shoes of somebody watching one or even the people that are going to speak before you. You're not even paying attention. You don't give a shit. You're looking at your lamb.
Starting point is 01:58:03 You're eating appetizers. You're eating at a few drinks. You're thinking about the dance floor. Nobody's like looking that hard at you. Now obviously, best man is a little bit elevated, right? Like best man is a more important speech. It's your brother too. My tip is, and this is specific.
Starting point is 01:58:17 to these types of speeches, the type that I hate is too much inside jokes. When you do that and like nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about and like can't tune in and can't follow along, those are the worst types of speeches. Keep it, keep it for a general audience. Like, keep it for like at least everybody who's there for the party is going to be able to understand and enjoy and tell some stories and things like that. Anytime it's like inside joke, inside joke, inside joke, inside joke, I'm just tuning out anyway. So you could do that if you don't want people to pay attention but my tip is like just keep it broad say some nice things you love your brother nobody's going to be watching that closely and you'll be fine if i'm writing this jim here's how i'm
Starting point is 01:58:56 going to do it you got to keep it brief three minutes maximum yeah maybe maybe even like a 90 seconds to two minutes you start out with the high hello then you immediately hit them with a joke you keep it real lighthearted off a rip oh this this guy jim's got jokes maybe two jokes if you can if you can fit it in and then you transition to the sentimental like me and my brother great Growing up, like, we had this special bond about blah, blah, blah, and it's just so great, and I couldn't be happier, and then we met Catherine, and she's the greatest thing to ever happened to him, and blah, you get all sentimental, and then if you really want to knock him dead, you tie it back in at the end with one more joke, leave them laughing, and then you get
Starting point is 01:59:32 on your merry way two minutes tops, and everyone's like, that guy fucking gets it. We love Jimmer. You're going to kill it either way. It's going to be great, Jimmer. Just don't bomb, man. Just please don't bomb, man. Just please don't bomb. Not like that Fugasey proposal brochure.
Starting point is 01:59:49 The voicemail sound is very zesty. But boys in the back. The voicemail sounds zesty? First-time caller. Joe Lewis, Los Angeles, L.A. Question for you. Your task with changing one UFC fight result that leaves the biggest impact on the sport.
Starting point is 02:00:09 And I want you all to think critically, so I'll take the obvious one off the table. Connor beats to beat. Okay. What say you? What say me? Also, I don't appreciate the slander about the zesty. If anybody sounds zesty here, Joe Lewis, it ain't us.
Starting point is 02:00:26 I mean, look at the mirror, couldn't hurt. One change, one outcome. I'll give you one. Alex Pereira doesn't knock out Israel out of Sonny in the fifth round in 2022. So he loses the fight for the belt. He doesn't get the belt. Izzy wins. There's no rematch.
Starting point is 02:00:43 There's no bow and arrows. Who knows what happens with Pereira movie? Does he immediately get worked into a title shot at that point? You just don't know. That's a pretty good one. It's hard to go higher than, like, there's nothing that's higher than Connor and Habib. Dustin gets a belt in one of his tries. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:07 What about Connor McGregor beats Dustin Porrier in the rematch? Yeah, he never breaks his leg. Where's he at? No, not the third one. Oh, okay. You're saying the second one. The second. So then there's never a third one, so he doesn't break his leg.
Starting point is 02:01:22 No. And he's back. Like the Mac is back. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's not a bad one. I mean, they all, the biggest ones are all going to revolve around Connor if we're being completely honest with ourselves.
Starting point is 02:01:32 The Izzy Alex one is a great one. John Jones never fails a drug test. Francis, I guess that counts, but I think we're just D.C. When he has, then he has, like, the record for all these, like, lengths of title runs. Francis Inganu loses to Cyril Ghan in his gamble Right before a free agency loses to Cyril Gond Is Francis and Gano still with the UFC right now? Like there's a few that could be
Starting point is 02:01:57 I mean nothing is going to top Connor Habib Like that is the inflection point Of all inflection points in MMA history Okay Connor McGregor beats Foyne weather in a boxing match Oh that's not a bad one Because I was thinking what if Francis beat if he got the nod against
Starting point is 02:02:15 Tyson Fury but yeah what if Connor beat Floyd what if Connor beat Floyd May whether in a freaking boxing match that's not a bad one
Starting point is 02:02:22 they're always going to be Connor they're always going to be Connor they're always going to be Connor never mind chat's not saying long next what's good boys it's your boy
Starting point is 02:02:33 Votkins what's up legend quick question and maybe only GC can really answer this question but we'll ask the whole group as a whole
Starting point is 02:02:43 what is the worst heartbreak that you could absolutely go through a your sports team you know loses a crushing defeat like a close loss or something like that in a championship game felt that the girlfriend the girl that you really really likes this she just wants to be friends or you guys are a girlfriend that breaks up with you or finally you mark out for a UFC fighter and his knockout and he watches the video and says it's fake i have also felt that break. Don't worry, GC. In the great words of REM, everybody hurts. Y'all have the best blessed weekend. Bodkins out. Catch you all later. Fuck, that was a great call by Bodkins. That was good. Allie Upped is straight to me and it's definitely, it's option three. Okay, but what about the first two?
Starting point is 02:03:31 Which, like, I don't feel like the sports is that gut-wrenching now. Okay. The worst most gut-wrenching, like, cannot recreate the feeling ever is Falcons 28 to 3. Super Bowl. That was like a, I swear I've never had a feeling like it since or before it. It was like, I legit, like, people like talk about like, oh, I couldn't sleep after that loss. I legit could not sleep after that loss. I was like, I was at a bar.
Starting point is 02:03:56 All you could drink bar. It was like $50 to get in downtown Atlanta. And bro, when they scored in that overtime, like Falcons fans just started fighting Falcons fans, like pure chaos erupted. One of my friends just picked me up and walked me out of the bar and it was like, let's just get a new, bro, let's get out of here. Like, it was like pure chaos. And then just like the whole next day, it was just like, I cannot believe this.
Starting point is 02:04:15 I was in my last semester of college. And I had to get up and drive to Athens the next morning for an 8 a.m. And so, like, I just didn't sleep at all. My mom comes in. She's like, hey, you got to start heading back to Athens. I'm just laying there with my eyes open. I'm just like, yeah, I guess I do, huh? Like, get on sports radio and listen the entire way.
Starting point is 02:04:35 And they're just having people call in. They're like giving like warnings. They're like, don't take this out on your wife. Don't take this out on your kids. your boss or your co-workers, like, call in and vent to us. Like, don't let this, like, affect your personal life or anything like that. Like, it was, like, it was serious. Like, it was like, we won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:04:52 When we were up 28 to 3, I'm outside smoking cigs, down in beers. I'm like, I can't fucking believe this. We're riding all night in Atlanta. Like, the birds won a Super Bowl. Like, the Dick's sporting goods in Atlanta, there's video footage of it. They put out all the Super Bowl merch, and then they had to pack it away. Like, it's been, like, 10 years. You know those, like, percentage?
Starting point is 02:05:11 Like, it's 99%. Like, there's never been a more... 99.9.9. And you had to, like, slowly watch it happen, and you could feel it when they got the two-point conversion. And then, like, when we get the... We're in field goal range, and then we get pushed back out of it, and you're just, like, slowly feeling it happening. You're just like, oh, my God, it cannot be happening right now. And this was, like, Ariel always talks about how, like, he's such a tortured fan. This was when, like, Atlanta was the tortured fan base.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Like, we had the Pop Fly Rule and the Braves. The Hawks are the number one seed to make it to the Eastern Conference Finals, swept on out. out of there. Yeah, the Georgia is like the falling three-yard short in the SEC Championship and they would have won the national championship against Sunder Dame and the two were talking by Loa, second and 26. Like, we were the haunted city. There was like a whole theory that Atlanta sold its soul for the Olympics and then all their
Starting point is 02:06:00 sports teams were cursed because of it. We got the Brazen 95 and then we get the Olympics in 96. That's amazing. So like the curse is just like it weighs so heavily. So like as bad of heartbreak can get is that when it comes. Is that worse than like a breakup? nah because you get over it like pretty quickly like breakups stick with you for a little bit like yeah like after like two or three weeks there would be some times in like the month falling
Starting point is 02:06:22 me and my boys would be sitting there like someone would just be like falcons really fucking blue and everyone would be like they really blew that shit i can't believe it there's almost like a bonding around that now though it's like trauma bonding yeah yeah yeah i would go i would go breakup work now yerry the fighter denying you one breakup two and then uh and then uh falcons three I got friends owned pretty bad in high school. Yeah, a Let's Just Be Friends is rough. To go to prom and got a Let's Just Be Friends on prom. I was like, that's tough.
Starting point is 02:06:53 That's tough. We ended up going to the same college and, you know, this or that happened, but it's... This or that happened. Prom night, I was like, ah, it's tough. So I guess you had the last laugh then. Technically, but yeah, prom. This, in front of my friends took us a girl at a party and it's just like, oh, it's like.
Starting point is 02:07:09 You know, Conor, just like, ah, I just got fucking, I got friends on, man. James, too. We're in this stupid-ass tuxedo. That was great. What's up, boys in the back? It's Trey from South Dakota. What's up, Trey? That's D.
Starting point is 02:07:28 It's been in a good mood today, so I'm not going to have to cause too much of a scene. Okay, thank you. Thanks, Trey. That story of Frank, from, I think it was like two episodes ago now, I'm not going to repeat any of it but you repeat frank my i you opened up your heart to us and it opened up my heart to you oh no i'd never feel judged for that um just listen to the the raven interview i'm not a wrestling fan i honestly struggle to fully listen to a lot of the wrestling interviews okay but when he started talking about fucking rug rug when he was talking about and it's
Starting point is 02:08:08 and then brought up like the past weekend's PFL event dude one of us man it was dope I'm gonna go back and watch some of his wrestling matches now
Starting point is 02:08:19 dude that's it for this week love you guys appreciate you try the content love you love South Dakota I forget if I said it on air or just like privately
Starting point is 02:08:30 but like Raven was cool as shit as a wrestler so you'll probably have a good time watching his matches he was so smooth he would always like roll in and out of the ring. He was really, like, gangster.
Starting point is 02:08:42 It's just like, I know we talked about it last week, but just like the cold that is MMA fandom, that like you, just by being a diehard fan, like you immediately become just like one of us. Yeah, one of us. And it's just like, I gotta go watch this guy's matches. I love this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:54 Like the pop for when someone actually knows MMA when you start talking about it with them is a feeling like, no. Okay. It knows MMA at a certain level, though. There's a threshold. No, of course. Like, you start talking MMA and then you're like,
Starting point is 02:09:06 if you're like Alex Per. Yeah, it's all. Pereira's knockout. It's just like, oh, nice. Like, yeah, you watch. Casually, you watch. When you're like, yo, I was gutted for C-Rod, it's like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. This dude's different. Yeah, yeah, man, when CG lost, bro, it's like, C-G? Chris Gutierrez, like, oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. It was Gutierrez. It was C-Rod. Yeah, it's just like the diehardness just brings you in. Shout out, Raven. The man.
Starting point is 02:09:35 What's up, boys? Danny Breezy here from Charlotte. Have you. Had an idea. Don't know if it's been asked before. Hopefully not. What do you guys say on the uncrowned dime on Ariel's black card? We all get a place out in the mountains somewhere and all the boys in the back fans, the mailman's fight league, everybody gets together and we just have a watch party from a cabin somewhere. Crack open some beers. Somebody bring a couple penjumens out there. Maybe somebody even brings Frank's mom's dad.
Starting point is 02:10:06 Who knows? Who knows of the weekend? takes us. But I feel like we all just need to go muck around somewhere and talk about how much Rick loves queens. Yeah, boys fucking hate queens. I don't know. Sounds like a good time. Let me know what you guys said. Peace. Peace, brother. First of all, the fact that you weren't sure whether or not someone had thrown that idea out there yet is kind of wild. No, no one has done that. Second of all, I'm not sure about getting locked in a cabin in the woods with a bunch of strangers and then taking drugs and alcohol with them that they brought. Seems a little sketchy.
Starting point is 02:10:41 Purchasing the cabin on Hohani's card also seems like a dicey proposition. That I'm down for it. The black card swipes, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll meet you there. We'll meet you there. You provide the cabin, though. Hey, man, what's up, boys, and that back?
Starting point is 02:10:56 What's all right? Look, bro, Queens is the best borough, baby. Shout out for me in New York, Rick. All you guys are a bunch of haters. Agron, Boston, baby. God out, Ledge. I need a hundred spots and pull all of you guys on. So, stop talking shit about Queens.
Starting point is 02:11:13 Was it a threat? Yes, it was. Queens takes Queen seriously. What's up, boys? David, oh, showrunner. Let's go. I'm running a 50K. Church race.
Starting point is 02:11:25 Jesus. It's more than a marathon. Nuts. About three months ago. And it's so hard that my body broke down and I got sing. Yeah, believe it, man. I went into this moment with a whole bunch of nervous energy. At the closer and closer I got, see the start line,
Starting point is 02:11:45 closer, the more my confidence rose. And I just say, fucking, I'm going to put my foot all the way up this racist ass. I got shit to do. My dad for the cursing. Massive amount of adrenaline running through my body right now. 30 miles. But what's the time that you're nervous to do something? but she said screw up now let's do it anyway all right boys calm up and now one right now
Starting point is 02:12:14 legit this guy's a nut let's go baby uh first of all that guy actually is a nut second of all incredible that he gets service out there on the trail yeah third of all I mean there's a million times I've been nervous and just did it anyway and like almost every time you end up doing it you don't regret it afterward and you realize like you were nervous over, not nothing, but you could have been less nervous and it would have probably been better. I don't know. What's the most nervous you've ever been? Nothing's coming to mind for me. Most nervous I've ever been? I don't know. I don't know. But like, I would say a lot of nerves and anxieties can come from like medical things. Oh yeah, for sure. Like tests and scans
Starting point is 02:12:56 and ultrasounds and stuff like that. That's usually like in day-to-day life when I get most nervous. And almost always it's never as bad as you build it up to in your head with those though you almost don't have the like uh let me just do it anyway choice because you're gonna do it you have to you have to kind do it uh those are just terrible when you're sitting in the waiting room and you're just like god i cannot wait to be walking out of you like that is gonna feel nice um that's that's one the first ever watched party we did like three years ago i was pretty nervous for i was like man what if this just clops uh you just fight through it you just sit down and you're like let's just do it Yeah, you just do it.
Starting point is 02:13:37 You all, like, never have, like, can I think of a time where I was nervous, did something? And then I was like, I wish I didn't do that. Yeah, I'm nervous sometimes. Like, I don't really get nervous these days, but there's been times in the past where I've been nervous to, like, send the right email or the right text and just make sure, like, did I nail this? Yeah, even then, it's just like a bit of, like, anxiety. And you're just like, at a certain point, at a certain point, you spend so much time building up the nerves and the anticipation that you've wasted. You've got to just move on. You've got to just keep it going. I try not to really let those things fester. I don't really build up anxiety like that.
Starting point is 02:14:34 I just came on the plane I just came to sit on the plane but I was listening to your show now Rupert is he calling us on like a few seconds ago and I just wanted
Starting point is 02:14:51 to just tell you it's incredible it's incredible incredibly funny show Thank you George I want I always want more of your show
Starting point is 02:15:03 I almost love it as much as as much as Ariel's show and just I wanted to say to Don Davis you were
Starting point is 02:15:17 amazing Twin Bigs and incredibly talented performance and I honestly thought you were that There's an actor
Starting point is 02:15:34 named Don Davis To go back to the show It's amazing Amazing show Honestly And I just I hope you guys Can continue to do it
Starting point is 02:15:46 And just I want to thank you The thing you do For us For us all It's Honestly It's
Starting point is 02:15:58 It's amazing It's amazing Thanks, sir So big love to you all guys And of course Certainly Certainly big love To where Frank's mom's
Starting point is 02:16:12 And as too Because honestly don't feel bad Frank We all kissed it Shout out George Thank you for that The plane didn't go down there Yeah
Starting point is 02:16:23 He's kind of a breath Thanks for the call George That was great We appreciate you listening man Thank you Shut up Don Davis The actor Don Davis That's the actor Don Davis
Starting point is 02:16:30 That I acted on, Davis. Yeah, what's up, boys, in the back? What's up? RDR Fight Week, so, you know, the Board of the Netherlands had to check in. Let's go. Shout out. I'm actually originally from Vancouver,
Starting point is 02:16:45 so this is your car. It's quite a funny fight week for me now. This is made for you. I'm actually going to hear a question this week. I just wanted to express my appreciation for how much of a, really lovely community that you guys have managed to build particularly with the boys in the back show oh man i appreciate that i just love hearing like fans from other parts of the world
Starting point is 02:17:11 tuning in and just knowing that there's you know a lot of uh a lot of other passionate fans in all corners of the world that uh it warms my heart and uh this show is is an absolutely integral part of my my commute so i appreciate you guys all so much gc rick rick frank And Andy and Jordan in the back, I believe I got everyone. So that's it for me. Enjoy the fights, guys, and have a great weekend. Cheers. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 02:17:42 Brother, you have a great weekend as well, man. Appreciate the calls. Back-to-back, love? Appreciate that, man. I can't thank y'all enough for listening. We wouldn't be able to do it if you guys didn't listen. Shout out to Andy. Shout out to Derek, who's man in the ship today.
Starting point is 02:17:53 Hey, shout out to Big D. Yeah, appreciate you guys a lot. For real. Greetings from the beautiful Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, Australia. Shout to Australia. Amsterdam to Australia. A long-time fan of a show. I love your work from GC's zest to life and enthusiasm of anything he chooses to do from going and watching sports.
Starting point is 02:18:19 Don't just watch the sport. He'll eat the food of the sport and wear the hat of the sport and makes just want to be around the guy. To big ricks, straight shooting, no nonsense, hot takes and steering of the ship. Big Frankie's effortless hilarity and also the glue that holds the gang together in the back of the house is don't call me Randy Andy and on-air Jordan all questions and such
Starting point is 02:18:45 but I had a few hot takes if you will I'm a big fan of lots of things in life my girls running shout out to the Strava group 248 marathon people It's international yeah like I wish I love last we're going to get back on.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Anything loved me the way Rick loves the borough of Queens, New York. I've never heard the man so worked up about anything in his life. Me neither. Also, my hot takes of the day that boys in the back is the number one MMA podcast or a show in the biz because of the lack of guests. I'll admit that sometimes I even fast forward the guests on Ariel's show because I just want to hear the boys shoot the shit. So keep up a good work.
Starting point is 02:19:30 I'll see you in Queens one day when I run the New York Marathon and I'll go and visit the two airports and backyards and whatever else Rick said was good in Queens peace shout out we'll see when we visit Victoria Australia
Starting point is 02:19:45 but do tune in for those interviews I mean you know we don't get the moments like Raven yeah I was going to say we'll take any of the accolades you'll give us whether they're true or not and we appreciate the love no matter what yeah
Starting point is 02:20:00 what's up boys in the back it's chris from rexham north wales i sent uh to rexum damn and eric the maze he's marvellous mistakes book yes again big thank you for that shout out um so question from me what is the protocol without shoes in the octagon like all the officials people that come in they've always got the shoes on i both they have different shoes for going outside and then coming back into the I mean, how does it work? Because you've got to any Jiu-Titoo gym anywhere, bare feet, clean feet, you know.
Starting point is 02:20:36 These people are always walking in with their shoes on. Say there's a type of fight before the main event, and everyone's walking in with their shoes on. Does the mat get washed down and wiped? Because there's all that bacteria coming in from the shoes. Just, you know, how I think. Once again to all your stuff, mate. I love it all.
Starting point is 02:20:56 Take care. Bye. Shout to Rexum, first of all. Shouts of Chris. Amsterdam to Australia to Wales. Not bad, man. It doesn't get much cooler than that. Secondly, do they wipe it down? No, as far as I know.
Starting point is 02:21:10 No, they do. They bring in like sweepers and stuff. In between each fight? Yeah. I don't know if it's every fight, but they have them in the ring in the cage. And like if there's blood and stuff, they mop it up. But he makes a good point. Like on the mats for jiu-jitsu, you can't, like, you have to be barefoot. The fighters are.
Starting point is 02:21:29 all barefoot and like the refs and like corner men and stuff are just like walking in with shoes on. Oh yeah. It is a bit bizarre. I guess that's a good point. At first I was wondering like I thought he was asking because like obviously the fighters don't wear it because of you would kill someone if you had kicked them with a shoe on.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Yeah, I guess that's a good point. Like the mat is supposed to be clean, pristine. Oh yeah. Now the only notable example I can think of Cedric Dube brought the splinter into the ring. without the shoes and so ultimately like you know who knows but they do have like a cleaning process like especially if there's been a bloody fight they kind of they kind of wipe it down it's a good point
Starting point is 02:22:09 um i'm gonna keep an eye out for that this weekend yeah i wonder about the shoes though that was all the voicemails we got to uh thank you to everyone who called thank you everybody sincerely appreciate all the love and all the questions uh enjoy that very much we got any super chats frankie you guess we do so the first one is what's up with ESPN lack of UFC coverage. Are they toning down UFC and doing more WWE? I think this is also affecting PFL's promotion on ESPN. Yeah, it's no longer on ESPN, so you will no longer see it on ESPN. It's not a big enough of a sport for them to cover it on the daily. So, I mean, how much did you really see of it outside the actual fights when it was on ESPN? You get the DC on first take and the occasional
Starting point is 02:22:53 talking about like the monster fights, but like, you're not going to see them breaking down UFC Vancouver like that just isn't going to happen yeah I mean they have a duty to cover all sports but it kind of there's a limit to that right we worked at ESPN we know this like the A block is always going to be cowboys lakers Yankees nicks whatever those like big uh hot teams are the the most popular teams uh Lebron they're always going to cover the same kind of things over and over and for MMA to break through even when it was on ESPN it had to be a major story you had to be Alex versus Izzy type shit. For it to break through now, when they're coming to the end of the deal, and then in
Starting point is 02:23:32 26, when they're no longer even on ESPN, I think the coverage of MMA from ESPN is going to be very, very minimal, if anything. As someone like you said, that we've been behind the scenes, it is an NFL and college football, an NBA network. Those are the big three by far when it comes to that place. Then you get some baseball. Then, like, now that they have hockey, like, you get a touch of hockey on there. but like the thing that's carrying them is the NFL.
Starting point is 02:23:57 Like that is what they are going to cover no matter what. And then college football as well. And then the NBA, because they have so much NBA coverage. And then it's the other one slotted behind in like major stories and in other sports. Yeah. I mean, you can see where their loyalties lie with how much WWE coverage there is now when it was non-existent before this. That's right.
Starting point is 02:24:18 Yeah. Now that they're in partnership, there's a lot more. Shout out, boys in the back from the drummer of, G.C.'s favorite band Melt. Thanks for the food recommendations when we were on our tour. Big Sweep this weekend. I will be there. I would love review or thoughts of Melt from Frank. I'll do you one better. I'll go check out Melt at the Sultan Room on November 1st. Oh shit.
Starting point is 02:24:44 Here. I'll be there. Yeah. In Brooklyn. Is Meld is Melt an actual band and is that the actual drummer? Yes. That's the actual drummer of a band. That you like. that I was put onto by James James put me onto it and Frank is going to see Frank's gonna go back to back concerts yeah day after team Impala
Starting point is 02:25:02 the Sultan room wow down that kind of is blowing my mind that this guy is like just a drummer for this band and is putting you guys onto it shout out shout out melt go follow Melt go follow James Turner on IG yeah he's the man he's the absolute man damn let's go
Starting point is 02:25:19 yeah he's been supporting since the early days appreciate you yeah diehard MMA fan as well let's go melt that's a melt brother yeah if you're in the New York area
Starting point is 02:25:29 Canadian band I'm assuming I saw a lot of flags did I very Canadian yeah very Canadian shout out to James Turner
Starting point is 02:25:36 Bougie Alpaca no boxing shoutouts for Joe Lewis's bum of the week run yeah this was MMA only I mean if we're doing boxing there's some there's some like
Starting point is 02:25:48 15 fights yeah crazy shit boogie rights back in seven wins six KOs all championship fights from 40 to 41 1940 nice to 1941 yeah and I felt like a lot of men were busy with other things at that time like what 24 inch dubs I was raven for a work Halloween party never more a shout out raven or the wrestler raven I think he's talking about the wrestler for sure I do think so uh shout out 24 inch dubs always always uh always shows us love always got the superchats.
Starting point is 02:26:23 I don't know. Sometimes he doesn't show us love, but... Appreciate you 24. And lastly, street from prison. Shiv says, G.C., can we get an uncrowned cycling group on Strava? Is that a separate thing,
Starting point is 02:26:34 or can you not just post your cycles? I think you can just post your cycles on there, brother. Also, what was the street from prison? Was that you editorializing? What was that? Because his name was Shives? Oh, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 02:26:47 No, his name was Shives. Oh, okay. I'm a bit confused here, Frank. That was all of them. Yeah, no, bro. You can... You can just post a cycling run. Yeah, post your cycle, man.
Starting point is 02:26:58 Post your cycle. 445 members right now, by the way. Fight Day, 5K. Nearly 500 members? Oh, yeah. Hop in, bro. Big pop for you. On Saturday, I'm actually going to do a 10K on Saturday.
Starting point is 02:27:10 And the week after as well. And then I'm probably going to switch over to cycling as well. Take a little break from the old running. Knees are barking a little bit now. Been going hard for a few months. Why 10K for the next two? Well, I actually have a real run on the 20 minutes On the morning of the 25th.
Starting point is 02:27:29 Halloween run, I'm running in a stone cold Steve Austin And then I just want to do one this weekend To get ready for it. Speaking of Halloween, are you dressing out? Yeah, I got something in the pipeline. All right. I got something in the pipeline. Yeah, our show's on the 30th.
Starting point is 02:27:44 Last year on Halloween. I know. We'll still cook up something great for the day before. I will admit, I'm happy that it's not this year because Friday I can go trick or treating with my kids. I'm sick. I mean, Frankie, you're going to Tame and Paula shout out. All right. I think that'll do it for us. UFC. Vancouver this weekend. Marab, best year ever.
Starting point is 02:28:03 Chris Wyden versus Anderson Silva. Thanks so much for watching. We appreciate y'all more than you know. Crack tomorrow. Halwani back on Monday. Enjoy the fights this weekend. We'll see you next week.

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