The Ariel Helwani Show - Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier's budding friendship? First Annual Backie Awards, more | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

The Boys in the Back return to react to recent news, including PFL's former CEO departing, UFC Houston fight announcements, and LFA's new broadcast home (03:21).Next, they cover the unexpected talk of friendship between Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier, before discussing some of the other biggest rivalries in MMA history (13:06).Plus, the Boys debut the first annual Backie Awards (44:36), listen to your voicemails (1:19:14), and answer your Super Chats (1:56:23). 

But boys in the back. The boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. The boys in the back are back. Feels good to say, the very first episode of 2026. I am one-third of the boys in the back. Connor Burke's joined alongside me. As always, you loved him. You missed them.

You got them, have them in your life. It's Mr. New York, Rick. And of course, we can't forget about it in the back. Mysterious Frank, how you doing, man? Good. How are you? I'm doing pretty good, man. I know we've had a few episodes, you know, the Ariel Hawanee Show Awards Week here at Uncrowned. But how's the 2026 been for you so far, Frankie?

It's been great. We've had a lot of fun this week. I'm actually kind of dreading the weekend because then I have to wait a few more days before I can hang with the guys. Wow. Dreading the weekend. Nobody more happy to be back than Frank, it seems. Honestly, during the break, the first two days, like, oh, man, I need this. And then the third day, like, I am bored. Wow. Well, we're happy to have you.

We need some hobbies, man. Everybody is working for the work week. That's Frank's model. We need Don Davis to call him with a new video game for Frank so he can pick up something to do. Did you beat Metroid Prime 4? No. That's actually moved down the list of priority. Oh, is it not that good?

I still think it's good. I know. I feel like some callers are like, this shit's shit. And you're just like, huh. The Pester's not there anymore, you know? Okay, let me say. When they announced Metro Prime 5, I'm like, oh, shit, oh shit, I got to beat 4. That's what happens.

Let me piggyback on what Frank said, which is I'm really happy to be doing this show again. Like, we've had shows this week. Obviously, I thought the awards was one of the best we've ever done, if not the best we've ever done. Look at this incredible trophy that our friend Sarp made for Hohuanian knows awards. The King of Turkey. I thought our prediction show was even better than last year. We built on the banter. But I'm really happy to be doing another episode of Boys in the,

back. Oh, it's good to be back. It's been almost a month. Yeah. I think our last show was December 11th. I think that's right. I think that's when our last show was. So it has been almost a full month. I hope you missed us as much as we missed you. We've got a big show plan for you today. You can see, I'm going New York Rick S. Kier with the t-shirt. I was kind of hoping you'd pull up in the actual full tuxedo. Mine is in the dry cleaner. My T-shirt is in the On a Adela Depot on this one. The reason I'm wearing this is because we're going to do the first annual backies, the award show for the boys in the back, 14 categories.

And we're like, we're not talking about fight of the year, you know, walk out of the year. There is zero, zero crossover from the award show that we did on Monday afternoon on the era, Hawani show, you know, the most prestigious award show and all sports and entertainment and everything like that. Zero crossover from that one. these are customized they're unique to the boys in the back program and honestly that's that's the only reason I even showed up for work today I cannot wait to get into that that's that's going to be the anchor of this show and it will replace no pound for pound but we will do your voicemails we will do super chats and we got to talk about John Jones and Daniel Cormeier raff this weekend as well going

off the Daniel Cormier wrestling thing we'll look at that a little bit but we start with some news and notes from around the world of combat sports and PFL announced this morning that their CEO Peter Murray will no longer be with the company moving forward. They announced this via press release Professional Fighters League today announced that Peter Murray CEO of PFL International Leagues

will be departing the organization. He was the founding CEO of PFL, but this kind of seems to be a continuing of this trend since John Martin got in of a refresh for the organization. Yeah, and you had to imagine when John Martin came in that the writing was a little bit on the wall on this one. They had shifted them to international, which, you know, seemed above board and to make sense.

But I do think when you're dealing with John Martin, who is coming from such a corporate environment, it is very common for the new CEO to come in, assess the situation, right? For the first month, first two months, you're sitting back, you're assessing the situation, you're seeing who does what, and then you kind of make changes from there, whether that be cuts, additions, and things like that. And so this seems to be part of that. And yeah, I did imagine that once John Martin came in that the writing

was a little bit on the wall on this one. Yeah, not surprising, but it makes me excited for the future of PFL. With the changes that they're making, with the fact that their rights deal is up this year, they've got to apply some pressure, they got to try to improve as much as as possible to get another right steel. PFL is worth keeping an eye on.

Yeah, certainly, I think the idea of a new vision for the company is something that's welcome, right? Like, obviously, I don't want to celebrate anybody losing a job, certainly not Peter Murray. And I'm aware of some other changes that are happening over at the PFL as well at a much lower level than the CEO executive level. But it seems like they're doing a little bit of housekeeping around the organization. That is not the positive part of this, but from a zoomed out perspective, if you are somebody who is invested in the PFL's future, the idea of, okay, we've seen. now several years of how this has been running and it hasn't ultimately been successful.

It hasn't reached the heights that maybe we wanted. There has to be something that changes. And this is one of the first steps of that change. Or one of the many steps, we saw a few from John Martin at the end of last year toward that change. Will that be successful as a question that we have a lot of time to answer? But this is more of, okay, we are taking a totally new direction here and we're going to see where we end up. Yeah, very well put. It's going to be interesting to see where PFL ends up by the end.

of 2026. Some other news. Talk about missing us, man. This is the UFC. They haven't had a card since December 13th, and we still don't get another one for another 16 days, two weeks from this Saturday. But we did get some announcements for a fight night taking place next month down in Houston, Texas, obviously headline by Sean Strickland and Anthony Hernandez. We got Dan Igay and Melchie Costa joining the card, which I think is huge because Melchie Costa, five-fight win streak 4 and 0 in 2025. If he can springboard that 2025 with a big win over Dan Igay, he'll find himself in the rankings and he'll find himself, you know, working his way up.

You know, obviously not title contention just yet, but, you know, you start getting that in your line of sight if you're Malky Costa. He was one of the names that was on my like short list of honorable mentions for most improved breakthrough fighter, things like that, like this next year could be even bigger, right? This could be one of those years where like, you know, Josh Vann is like a very obvious one that happened this year because it's like you go from fighting in the middle of cards to beating alishandre pantosia a pound for pound great but i do think there's a big opportunity for some of these younger fighters who stay who stay active and they're healthy throughout the year

you talked about milky's big year i think if he can stay active and he can pick up big wins over guys like diannege it's not going to be long before he's able to claim one of the top spots i mean he started last year with a late february yeah fight and then was able to fight four times and he's just right back at it here in 2026. So a great fight added to that card. We also got Michel Pereira returning, taking on Zach Reese. Michel Pereira

on a bit of a skid. Going to be interested to see if he can bounce back here. Also, is that Zach Reese on the left? That's Cody Bruntage, I think that's Cody Brontage. Who's the check? Yeah, I'll take it up with the graphics guy, Frank. Yeah. Graphics team

off to a shaky start here in 2020. that might be an early entrance to a backy that might be an early entry to a 2027 backie award looking at the original photo on Getty of that

supposed Zach Rees Zach Rees is in the photo it's just its foot is he unconscious on the floor somewhere that Zach Rees getting finished by Cody Bromidge oh yeah we are off and running

maybe that might be a Mackey oh geez your boy Zach been looking good in the boxing lately. Zach Rees? How are we going to get through this show? I think you're talking about Cody Brundage. One other fight that got announced Ante Delia returning against

Sergei Spivak coming off that loss against Salisovoy Waldo Cortez-Aosta. And now he gets the polar bear. I like this one, man. Yeah, man, I feel so bad for Ante because the situation, look, don't get me wrong. I don't think Waldo Cortez Acosta did anything wrong

in that scenario, right? Like, this was the opportunity that was presented to him, and he did what he needed to do in that scenario. But I do feel bad for Ante DeLia, who felt like he had a win there, and it was like snatched from him, and he had so much momentum, and he's a guy that I really think could make some noise in the division. This is a good fight to go, okay, I'm resetting here. If I can get a win over Spivok, who I think is, you know, a name that many people recognize, at least amongst this division, right, where they're kind of short on names. That's one that could get him back to kind of where he was, but I do feel bad for him.

honestly. Yeah, because you, as guys who have never stepped foot in the octagon before, like, you just can't be sure where your mindset is at when you think you have won, and then they're like, nah, man, you got to go back out there. Definitively, too. It's like you think you just got one of the biggest knockouts of your career and you have to re-rack it, right? And we've seen this before with some fights that happened last year as well, right? Neil Magny and Jake Matthews, like, where it's just like, you got to reset this and that's a hard thing to do. That's an instantaneous reset and you get knocked out. So yeah, I feel bad for him, but I do think that this was good of them to leave it

in like a same level of competition territory where it's like, I'm back on track. I think that's like eight or nine. Somewhere in the top ten. Good fight. Good card coming together. We also got Yadier Del Valley taking on our guy, the Monkey King, Jordan Levitt, and then Krispy, Carly Judeece, my girl, taking on Giuliana, the killer Miller. So UFC Houston's starting to come together. I don't think we're going to get that Josh Van title fight on that. I think that's out of the question. but John Strickland, Fluffy Hernandez is an absolute banger in the main event. And I imagine, when was the last time they went to Houston? It's been, it's been several years now, no?

I was there for Cyril Gond versus Derek Lewis many moons ago. I have to imagine. That was August of 2021. They had to have had a card there between then, but that's when I was there. You know, honestly, that was like right when I was starting with the MMA. I don't think Houston has gotten that cards. Oh, man. That is a while.

Maybe they had a, maybe that. Maybe they had a fight night. or something. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, that card is coming together. It's shaping up nicely. That's a good card. There he is. There's Zach. There's Zach Rees. Fair play. Fair play to the graphics thing. That was quick work there. Some other news. LFA, this news broken by our very own Ariel Hawani. LFA is getting a new deal with Vice TV. They will air their events in the U.S. beginning with their 2026 debut next weekend. The deal calls for 25 LFA events to air live on the linear network on Friday nights. The first LFA on VICE will air Friday,

January 16th at 9 p.m. And Ariel adds, the promotion I'm told will soon be announcing its broadcast plans for the rest of the world. I mean, interesting stuff for LFA to get on linear television. And I like the idea of like Friday night fights. Yeah, that's next Friday. Next Friday they will be having their first event on VICE. I got to see if I got VICE on my cable that's what I was going to say though is like yes linear and yes vice like is a name right that people recognize much more broadly than UFC fight pass right vice is a is a name that and a brand that resonates with people outside the combat sports sphere but I do wonder like how I don't even know as you just pointed out like how you find vice right now like what providers have it and

things like that I think that's going to be the the biggest obstacle in terms of this potential deal is can you inform people enough this is our new home it's It's going to be on vice. Here's how you watch it. It's easy to consume. Thankfully, they have like the capososos of the world who tune in for everything and make people very aware of like where they can find stuff. But they're going to need to put in some elbow grease of their own

to make sure that like people understand how to watch this. So I'm on DirecTV. Yeah. Using the parents username and password. Yeah. Nice and easy. See, shout out the pops. Appreciate you.

Plus I still get the Atlanta local commercials, which is great. Love that. 271 for DirecTV. I'm going to have to check. when I get home. Who's to check? Yeah, who is to check? I'm going to have to check when I get home.

But if I have Vice, you know, Friday night, you're bored? As a man who's been to an LFA event, held the LFA belt. Not even I can say that. Yeah, I went to LFA and it was in like a theater. Like all the seats were facing one way and like they were up on a stage. Shout out to LFA, though. Congratulations on your TV deal with Vice. Big stuff for them.

Big stuff for that promotion. All right. Some news around the world of MMA that's kind of, kind of shaking it up a little bit is John Jones and Daniel Cormier will be the coaches, the hosts. I think it's coaches, right? Coaches? Yeah. For the Russian reality TV show Alf, reality, season three, season one.

Yeah, there's the poster right there. There's Big Alfredo in the middle. I think he's the financier for all this, and it's brought to you by one win. We've seen Al Jermaine Sterling and Piotr Yan do this in the past. They seemed to be friendly with it. They seemed to be amicable when they were there, and they seemed to have enjoyed it. And then I think season two was like, was this when Nate Diaz? John versus Nate?

And then it turns into John versus Jorge. Yes, yeah, John versus Jorge. And honestly, the numbers are fantastic on YouTube. They're pulling six figures, if not seven figures, almost every single episode. The only issue, the only bummer I have to say for us, I've went and watched some of it. It is 100% in Russian. When John Jones speaks in the like Jorge Masvara one, they just dub it over with Russian so you never even hear the English. So like these are long episodes too.

Like they're like full episodes of like the ultimate fighter. So like the watchability for Americans may be maybe difficult. For English speakers, it may be difficult. Is there no version of this that's in English? Is there no like. So like on the on the Alf global YouTube channel, which I'm imagining where it's going to air, they have Alf reality to the entire. season up, then they have Alpha Reality one, the entire season up, which was the, the Jan and Aljo, and, like, I mean, even, like, the titles are, are in Russian. Yeah, I would, I mean,

I would obviously love to hear John and DC in their native language, but look, if we have to read captions, we have to read captions. Okay, well, that's another thing about it. There are no captions. Boy, this is, wait, YouTube can't auto-generate them? I don't think they, I think they can auto-generate captions in Russian. Christ almighty. All right. Can we put it through an AI that translates the Russian audio into English dubbed audio? I'll say this. There will be, shout out to some of the outlets like Red Corner MMA and others who do a great job of translating some of the things that come in that language.

I would love to follow this. But if my only drip of this is social media from the clips that really like need to be seen and they're dubbed over or translated, like I can live with that. I mean, we're going to get mad clips from it. There's no doubt about it. And I... Well, how much of the John and Jorge... Like, the John and Nate one went viral because we knew, like, the Nate leaving the show and all this drama that popped up around it. But I don't remember seeing much of anything after that, nor do I remember seeing much from the Jan and Al Joe one.

Did you, did any, like, real, like, clips come out of that that you remember? Honestly, it was mostly just them, like, kind of grappling, having fun with each other. It wasn't, like, really serious stuff. Yeah, I'm watching Horace. Mazved all completely dubbed in in Russian, but maybe Alf Global will know how huge this is going to be, yeah. And maybe they'll either offer English subtitling. Or maybe they don't give a shit, man.

They're just like, this is just for the Russians. I mean, the dude who runs, the Alfredo dude, I mean, he's paid up. Like, maybe he just doesn't give a shit. He doesn't, he doesn't care if they get the English audience there. Nonetheless, though, it is very interesting that they have decided to do this together. And it's interesting not to drag D.C. through the mud or anything, but back in May, he was on his YouTube channel, and he talked about how he actually got offered to do a show like this and turned it down, take a listen.

Jones is somewhere out in Thailand, coaching a reality show, which, by the way, I was offered to coach against him prior, but I didn't accept it. I can't do a month in Thailand, opposite side, John Jones, especially when I can't fight that dude no more. I mean, he beat me when I was fighting. I can't really fight today. 46 years old. Like, come on, man. I mean, I would do it for fun, but I'm not ready to spend a month in Thailand. Interesting. That bag must have been nice, baby. Flash cut.

Flash cut. Let's jump to D.C. in a tropical shirt talking about his experience working with John Jones on Alf Reality 3. Being around John Jones is, it's different because we had such a bad history. But the reality is, I'm done fighting now. And it's like that, that, that, that, that, That part of it's gone, so it's not nearly as nasty. But I think that we've done a good job of being professional as much as we can. Obviously, we argue a lot, but that's just the status of our relationship. But I think that we've gotten to a point in our lives where we can be in the same area without trying to fight each other. Okay, that feels like a change to me, right?

Like we saw that clip from May. Not that DC was like super agitated or animated in that clip from May, but even the idea of like, now you know what? Like, in the first clip, he says, we can't even coexist. I can't spend a month around this guy. Now you flash cut to earlier, late last year when this is being filmed. And he's like, yeah, you know what? We've been respectful of each other. We've been argumentative, but we've been respectful and we've been cordial and we've been

able to tolerate each other. That, to me, feels very different. Even though it's like, there's degrees of it. It's not like, you know, we're best friends. Shout out to Ovin, who made a fantastic thumb for this episode of The Boys on the back. Shout to Oven. Shout to Step Brothers. Shout to Step Brothers for the inspiration.

Here we go. Shout out Jordan for having this ready. If you are on the younger side, you need to go back and watch Step Brothers. I can't believe it's been 18 years since this movie came out. Now I went and sold in Peters. Yeah, came out in 08. All-timer. Absolute All-timer with Will Ferrell.

Maybe they're not there right. Maybe that's a little bit of hyperbole. But you feel the softening of it. You feel the difference between like, I can't even be around this guy to we can be professionals in front of each other, which has not always been the case. They literally brawled after a press conference in the middle of a casino lobby. I mean, we've even seen clips of like where they're talking on the phone to each other recently. And like D.C. by the end of it is like giving the double birds of the camera. He's like, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

I don't care what they have to say. Actually, so much so. I'll take it even one step further. John Jones had this to say about what could become of their relationship. I think it would be great to have Daniel Corby a part of this show. Obviously, him and I have a rough history. I know he doesn't like me very much, me beating him twice. But I think him coming out here to Thailand

filming with me would be a great opportunity for us to mend this jacked-up relationship. But I have no problems with him. I think, of anything, him coming out here would give us both an opportunity to maybe start a friendship. Okay. now we're going even further

John Jones saying Now we're not professionals We're friends Maybe Opportunity to start a friendship John John has a way about him Of

Sometimes when John Jones is like Trying to be friendly It doesn't feel authentic Does that make sense Like when John Jones is doing Like the like buddy pal stuff Sometimes it almost feels like a big brothering It almost feels like I'm able to do that

And we've seen this like you actually referenced that clip Where they're on the phone I think that was probably like a pre-fight commentators meeting Where Daniel's getting an opportunity to talk to John Because the commentary team gets to talk to the fighters beforehand Pick their brains a little bit Understand about their game plan and things And he's talking to John and John's like

Hey what's up DC and you can just feel DC's like Here we fucking go again with buddy buddy like you know, John Jones, like, doing the friendship act. I will say, that one came across a little bit more authentic. That one came across a little bit more like, this is a man who's probably, like, gone through a lot in the last, you know, a couple of years in terms of his career, in terms of, like, this whole Tom Aspinall saga that was going back and forth.

He then retires. He maybe has some regrets about it because the bag that he left on the table. And just like, he's lived some life now. in the last couple of years, not that his years before this have been a walk in the park either, but an older man, a more mature man,

has older kids now, probably like is looking at his life and thinking about things differently. I felt a little bit more like that felt authentic. The only thing I'll say, and Daniel Cormier will say it as well, to me,

I think, like, Daniel Cormier never really wronged him. Yeah, it's a good point. The wronging was on John Jones part, and John Jones also, won the two matchups. It's much easier to be like, yeah, I'll be friends with them. Right, right, right.

I kind of fucked him with the PEDs and and the wrongdoings and I also beat him twice. Sure, I'll be friends with them. Whereas D.C. is coming from the side where it's like, bro, he took PEDs, man. Like in DC's eyes, he's like, he cheated against me and like he took those opportunities from me and I lost both matchups. Very fair. So it may be more

difficult for him. DC actually had this to say about the potential friendship. He's that honestly don't know that that's what he wants. I don't know that's what he wants. I have said time time again, that the authenticity that surrounds John Jones can come into question. So what we hear may not be necessarily what he means. Okay, two things off of that.

Yeah. Number one, the new Daniel Cormier TV background compared to the Louisiana D.C. logo. You like the other one better. The Louisiana D.C. logo clears easily. It was so good. The red and the black. A little hot, too. A little bright.

A little bright. We can work on that. on that. Secondly, he kind of said what you said. In the past, you can, you can sort of sniff out this this disingenuity. Magnanimous John Jones. What's the word, Frank? Disingenuous. Disingenuity? Is that a word? Disingenuous? No, it's just disingenuous. John Jones being disingenuous. Yeah. And it feels like DC kind of feels that way. It's, it's 100% accurate. And obviously as DC, as you said, it would be very understandable for DC to feel that way, right? DC's the one who has been wronged, as you said in these scenarios, right?

They had a very intense rivalry, but all the transgressions, the PED thing, the cancellation of the fight, that is all on the John Jones side of it. It almost feels like the ball is always in DC's court, which is a weird position to be in, right? Because as you said, it's very easy for John to be like, yeah, let's be friends. For one, he's the winner of both the fights, and it's like no sweat off his back. For two, he might change his mind tomorrow, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything to me. I get a little bit of, you know, let me not go that direction. I get the sense that John Jones changes his mind frequently about things, as we saw with, like,

hey, I don't want to fight Tom Aspinall. Oh, maybe I regret that. Maybe I did want to fight Tom Aspinall. Either way, it would be easy for him to be like, hey, let's be friends. D.C. is like, okay, I'm going to make a genuine effort here. Let's be friends. And John's like, nah, fuck you. I don't actually want to be friends.

Whereas on the D.C. side of it, I imagine if D.C. is like, all right, I'm going to, I'm, I'm, I thought this door was closed, I'm going to open it one more time. We're going to go through this door and try and be friends. It would probably be very significant of a step for him. It would probably mean something to him that's a little more than just like a flippant like kind of reaction to it. So it is interesting how it's always like the onus is always on DC from my perspective because I feel like John could like take it or leave it. He could throw it away. He doesn't really care about it. Whereas for DC like it would be a major step for him to be like, yeah, I want to like bury the hatchet with John Jones. Yeah, because I mean on top of all of this,

like the fighting aside, I don't know how D.C. feels about him, like, as a man, like, as a person. It's a great question. I mean, he's said in press conferences, like, he thinks he's a bad guy. Yeah. Because, like, there's, there's things on top of the PED stuff as well that I don't think D.C. necessarily respect. So I think it really is, like, it's easy for John Jones to say, yeah, we can be friends. I think it's much more difficult for D.C. I say all that, and I agree with everything you said, D.C. said, and even I kind of harped on, it did feel a little more genuine to me. I can't shake that feeling of, like, watching that video, John.

It didn't feel as much of the, like, dripping in sarcasm, you know, like an act. But I've been fooled before as well. Well, D.C. said he's done fighting, but he's open to other means of combat against John Jones. Take a listen. Jones and I argued about fighting each other in a boxing match, to which I agreed to do, if it's just boxing. we also and the one that caught fire the most was the wrestling thing

because I said that I would wrestle him in Real America freestyle wrestling and I would beat him that stems from John earlier saying I would wrestle Daniel in a exhibition or a grappling match for charity RIF man

they've been scooping people up would you be interested I would be way more interested in them wrestling than them boxing, actually. Same. Like, I just think because it's Daniel Cormier's prowess, it wouldn't get too heated and nasty.

It would be for fun. Would it not? Yeah, I guess it would just because of who they are. The first time somebody makes a wrong move, what happens? Like, that's my fear of this John Jones and Cormier. If John Jones were able to beat D.C., I think it would shatter D.C. speed. Yeah, that'd be bad.

Because he's come out and said that he would beat him 10 out. That would be very bad. For John to beat. DC in his own world, right? Where it's like, Cormier has lost twice to him in MMA. Again, Cormier and many,

many others will call that into question in terms of the actual fights themselves. But the official record show, he's lost twice to John Jones and M.MA. That's John Jones's world, right? John Jones is the greatest mixed martial artists of all time. DC himself would probably tell you that,

although he'll go the greatest, like, dirty, cheap martial artist, combat sports martial arts, mixed martial artists of all time. Habib is probably, like, he'll, you know, he'll caveat it, but I don't think anybody's unaware of John Jones being the greatest of all time. Wrestling, that's D.C.'s. That's his world. That's his bread and butter. That's what he grew up his life doing and then transitioning to M.MA. If he does lose to John Jones in wrestling, I do think it would have some very lasting effects. Seriously, I really think he would be, like,

broken. Yeah. Like, he would be distraught if that happened. And you also have to imagine, And just on the basis of that, Daniel would train the hardest he's trained in a decade for it. He's come out and said he trains wrestling every day as it is. He says that John Jones will not beat him in a wrestling. He'll be doing three a days at that point because he cannot lose to John Jones. Look, Raf's already got me in for Raff O'Five this weekend. We'll talk about that a little bit. You get John Jones Daniel Cormier?

Okay. I'm in. The ranking still, though, would be MMA, right? I saw some people saying this was AI generated. I think this is a real picture. This is real, no? It looks like it's right. I mean, they were out there.

Who is to check, Frankie? I mean, they were out there, so I feel like it... Yeah, they were there. I think it's just a filter, you know? People used to chicken fry their picks back on Instagram in 2015, man. That thing in the friar. The ranking still would be for me, though, and I assume the same for you, right? MMA.

M.A, yes. Actually, I don't know about MMA. You'd rather see the wrestling, number one. I guess I would want to see MMA, but I think Jones wins. I think at this point with the shape that DC's in, he's like, what, 46, did he say he was? Yeah, like he is, he has aged out at this point and has not stayed like in Yoel Romero type shape, whereas John Jones is pretty recently removed from fighting in M.M.A. About to be 47 in March. Yeah, dude, I don't, I don't want to see the MMA just because.

You think the playing field will be more even for wrestling. Absolutely. I think that's the most even. I don't really want to see them get into a striking match. No, no, boxing's by far my last Like, I don't even want to see it I don't want to see it No, I felt the same I think wrestling

Man, you know what You might be convincing me I think MMA still What I want to see a 46 year old DC Come back and then lose in MMA Yeah, you know what, the more I think about it The more you're right Because if John Jones came back to MMA

Why the fuck would I want to see him fight D.C. Rather than like Tomasperera It's like fighting DC's coming out of the commentary group I think I'm going Wrestling I just want to see the wrestling Wrestling

To the RAAF Damn, if Raff can put that one together, they are cooking with gas, man. That is, I don't know if he's getting 30 million, but if they can put that together, and I think it's, it's lower stakes for John too, right? Like, obviously

John's been talking about the 30 million for the Tom Aspenov fight and, you know, Ariel is the one who reported that. We all know this at this point. I think the stakes are much lower that he knows it wouldn't be that for a wrestling match. I could see him losing and then

like that, like shit eating grin and he's just like, congratulations to Daniel on the win. Does, do you think John, there's an element of me thinking that John doesn't want to give Daniel an opportunity. He's a ready to an O and it's almost like, why should I come to you? You know what I mean? Maybe, but also like, it'd be fine. They both probably got paid a lot of money.

Also, John Jones is the type of dude who's like, no, I am actually the best wrestler and I'm going to show you and then do it. I think I saw Camaro Oussman come out saying, like, he's seen John Jones in the in the wrestling room and when he wants to wrestle he's a bad man. Fuck yeah. It'd be crazy.

I'm down for it. Honestly, the bag hasn't been crazy for this show, man. Think about it. We're talking about May. In May. Cormié was like, yeah, I got offered.

I turned that shit down. No way I'm going to Thailand for a month. Are you kidding me? I am not doing that. Dash forward six months and he's doing it. So we have to imagine

that the motivation for this is like getting paid the craziest amount of money you've ever been paid. Because as far as rivalries go, right? look back at the annals of MMA history

this is up there as one of the top like it's in the top five for me I would argue maybe even higher yeah for sure I think when you look

at the Pantheon and like just the the actual just like pure hatred and hatred between these dudes

there was a moment and it may even still be true that Daniel Cormier whether he would admit it or not and I think he would have admitted it

like he hated John Jones I hate this guy he wouldn't have pissed on him if he was on fire at a certain point for sure

and I think you're right that DC would have admitted it at his lowest moments right in the moments where him and John went at each other's necks and there's famous video right that you still there pussy

like there's moments that they sunk to a level that I don't think Daniel Cormier who I think is a great representative for combat sports who I think is a great representative

for what you want in a masculine man and a leader and somebody to aspire to be and somebody like a role model right I don't think that of John Jones very obviously, right?

I think John Jones is on the other end of that spectrum. Who wouldn't have wanted to sink to that level, but John Jones was able to get him to sink to that level. He had to hate him, right? Because we don't see this at a D.C. D.C.'s uncle. He's jovial. He's coming. He's laughing.

He's talking shit without being in Islam. He's the funny uncle. And John Jones brought him to the depths of it, right? When they're talking about each other's families and stuff. I'm talking like he gets back to the hotel room and he's just like, 100%. 100%. I hate that guy.

I hate that guy. And what's crazy is now they're facing off. The picture we saw, they're in that proximity. So it got me thinking, like, this is a top five, top three. Maybe for some people, the number one biggest rivalry, probably not number one. Biggest rivalry, biggest blood feud in MMA. Are there any that you can think of where they wouldn't take the bag? Like, let's go through some of the biggest, most heated rivalries in MMA.

And then we'll kind of see, like, could you imagine them doing it? The obvious one that I genuinely think they would never, ever do it is Habib and Connor. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't, and I don't think it's from the perspective that, like, Habib or Connor would say the same thing Cormier said back in May, which is like, I can't be around him for a month. I think it's because if you put those two in the room together, the moment they are in proximity of each other, neither one of them is leaving that room until they fight. I think it's a combination of both things.

I think they do not like each other. And I think Connor really, like, has, has a vitriolic hatred toward this man. And also, they have no need, like, McGregor doesn't need any money. Like, I don't think Habib needs any money. Like, they have plenty of sources of income, so they don't really need this. And then you just combo that with the hatred. I just, I don't think there's any amount that that Alfie could throw out to him that would get them to come do this show.

Yeah, they don't, that's a great point, right? Like, as we said, a lot of the motivation of this had to be, like, you're paying me what to just do this coaching stint for this long, it's probably a big motivator. Beyond that, though, I think most people would... Most of these other rivalries? All right, let's look at some of the, like... We already saw

Aljo and Piotr do it. I know that wasn't really that nasty, but, like, they definitely didn't like each other. All right, let's compare then. How about Habib versus Tony Ferguson? Yeah, they would do it, right? Tony, you would imagine... Yeah. I also think at this point now, like, they've moved

on. A lot of this... a lot of this comes down to like can you be professional right yeah and and we see it that i mean they're not reinventing the wheel here this show is just tough that's basically what the show is and we've seen like some of the more heated rivalries ever be on tough we saw vanderlay and chale that's another great one i imagine they would also do this show if offered enough money it's it's like tough on uh it's like tough like drank an energy drink just like just like ripped an energy drink and like because like when you watch it it is chaotic Like, I feel like they're trying to incite, like, fighting behind the scenes more than, more than Tuff is doing it.

But yeah, they're just taking the blueprint from Tuff. Uh, Izzy and Alex? I mean, now they're like, boys. So they'd probably do it. I think they would absolutely do it. What I think is the determining factor on this is, like, there's a lot that would do it. But once there, do you think they'd go from cordial to at each other's throats? Like...

Okay, I have one that I think that that would happen. Tell me. It's Jorge and Colby. Oh, boy. Are Jorge and Colby even allowed to be within a certain number of feet of each other? Is that legally? Yeah, the jurisdiction in Thailand, maybe. But I think there are two guys that, like, you get offered that sum of money, they'd be like, all right, yeah, I'll do it.

And then they get around each other, and it would get heated, yeah. Yeah, that's probably a correct one. They would do it, but they would fight on the show 1,000%. How about Dustin and Colby? Yeah, that's not happening. I don't think Dustin would give me. I have famously, not famously. It wouldn't have been famous.

Anything I say is not famous. But I have long said that Dustin Porriere versus Colby Covington is the fight I want to see the most because I truly believe that Dustin Porriere would like try to kill him. Like Dustin Porriere hates him to that degree. And he's made no like, it's unmistakable if you ever hear Dustin Porre ever have spoken about Kobe Covington. But there's a sense that like he doesn't want to give an opportunity to Colby Covington, right? Like, he, Dustin Porriere's here, Colby's now here, and it would be Dustin doing Colby a favor. I don't think he would do him that honor.

But if they met in a dark alley somewhere, I think Dustin would try to murder Colby Covington. Rhonda and Misha? Which makes me want to watch it. Uh, I think they'd do it. I think they'd be fine. I think at this point, I think at this point everyone would, everyone would do it that would list off. Rampage and Wanderla? Yeah, they'd be fine.

They would do. Rampage is like a creator now. He's like for the content. He would have his kickstream going on. All right. What about T.J. Dillowsha and Yariah Faber? Yeah. I also think T.J. Dillishaw and Cody Garbrand would do it too.

Damn. We saw Dominic Cruz. It's enough money to get John Jones and Daniel Cormier to do this show together. Like I don't think anyone else we're going to list. Nate Diaz and Connor McGregor are definitely doing it. Brandon Moreno and Davis and Figuero are definitely going to do it. Tito and Chuck are going to do it. GSP and Nick Diaz are going to do it.

Chale and Anderson will do it. Michael Bisbing, Dan Henderson. Yeah, the... Or Michael Bisbing, Luke Rockhold. Yes, Luke Rockhold, for sure. I'm telling you, there's a high chance by the middle point of that season. Look, they could go at it.

Has gotten Luke Rockhold so riled up that it becomes explosive. You can just feel Michael Bisbing... Explosivity is good, though. No, I'm talking, like, bad, though. I'm talking, like, real, like, animosity, like fight. Yeah, I mean, but I still think they would

do it. But it's all good, I guess. That's what you want, right? Yeah, yeah, for sure. I really think. Brock Lesnar Frank Muir? Yeah, yes, for sure. Brock would definitely do. It's got to be a crazy bag. I don't know how much they got paid, but dude, to get Daniel Cormey, who said six months ago, no, man, I'm not

doing that shit. I can't be in Thailand for him with a month. To doing it, it has to be a crazy amount of money. All right. I think we've arrived at, like, there's some very, like, big rivalries, right? We've touched on most of them. How about Ilya and Patty? For sure.

Yeah, they'd do tough, obviously. Yeah, just not right now because of where they're at their careers. Tough, if tough paid a shit ton. Yeah, this has to pay more than tough. Let's do, let's conclude this part with, who would you want to see? And we'll, let's leave Connor and Habib off the table because that's the most like. Habib and Connor. Can I say Nate Diaz and Connor?

Yeah. Nadeez already did it. But Nate quit, so it's like, are you getting? All right, Izzy and Alex. I'd like to see Izzy and Alex. Would that be too friendly? It's too friendly and there's also the language barrier makes it tough. No, but they can chat GPT.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Rampage and Vanderlai? That'd be fun. That's the one I'll go with. I would like to see. Honestly, are we going to see any of it because it's all in Russian? This would never happen, obviously. It's impossible to happen.

But the one I would want the most is Tito Ortiz versus Dana White. Oh, yeah. That would be a fun time. It is not a bad show. That would be a fun time. There's a few with Tito. You could do Tito and Chuck. You could do, although those guys seem pretty cordial at this point.

Tito and Chale. Chale has a way of always, like, digging in on Tito. Um, I wouldn't mind, man, I wouldn't mind the Michael Bisbing version of this season. If they, if they're, they're very clearly, like, aware of what they're doing. Um, with this Alf show, they are locked in on MMA. They know the sport. They know the rivalries. The fact that they started with like a Jan and Aljo.

They know what to do. if they start getting down the line and it's like Michael Bisbing in somebody I might have to like start learning Russian that might be my sign to like figure this out because I think they're locking in on something that could be pretty good in a way that tough hasn't been able to in a long time

All right, we'll see for the release of Alf Reality 3 on their YouTube channel there he goes New York Creek everybody thanks for joining brother I really appreciate it Frankie just breaking the fourth wall came in with that bottle of water and just left it over there He heard the dry mouth and the lip smack in, and he was like, all right, let me help him out. The complaining about you not having water back here was just next level by Frank.

Classic. Federal. We're rusty. We're rusty. We said, love that from Dana. We said that what we wanted to see most between DC and John Jones was some RAF wrestling. Wrestling. The RAF card this weekend.

Okay. One more degree of difference question. Would you watch grappling, like a jujitsu? Not necessarily wrestling. Or does it have to be the wrestling? Yeah, me too. I want it to be D.C.' It's D.C.'s real house.

All right. We're aligned. We're aligned. Main event. You said it, Luke Rockold, going against Colby Covington. Fun. Bo Nicol against Yuel Romero? Armisarukian versus Lance Palmer? Bo and Yowel is the one that got me to tune in.

Just the brilliance of Yowell Romero is like, he's LeBron. He's our LeBron, right? 48. 48 years old and just still looks. So forget even if he sucked, right? Even if he was trash at combat sports and wrestling and everything else, right, at this point in his career, which would be understandable at 48 years old. Just the physique alone is enough to be like, what? Like, what the fuck is this?

Who is this guy? Where did he come from? But he's also 10 zipping people on the wrestling mat. And he's going against bow nickel. And he's wrestling bow nickel. Look, man, I was out on RAF. You were too? I was never in.

I was never, I didn't jump out, but I just never got in. Yeah, I mean, that's true. I was just not interested in it at all, but it took them five cards. They've got me in. Bo Nicoliole Romero. I will be watching this. It's a rookie in too, man. That guy can't go two weeks without having a grappling match, man.

It's, it truly is incredible. Is there a chance, though, that, like, they run out of this, right? Like, there's only so many times you can do this. Like, I think this is brilliant. They've locked in for this one, and I will be watching. But, like, Yowel loses to Bo, then it's like Bo versus who, and then it just, I think they will eventually run out of this intriguing. Matchups for the M-M-M-A.

And then they'll get John Jones, Daniel, man, I'll tune back out. God, if they get that. Some other fights this week in, ACA-198, you locked in? Islam Omarov versus Al-Kahn-Suliminov. Oh, I've been waiting to see Omarov back. It'll be a good one. Don't sleep on hexagon as well. My God.

Ex-A-G-O-N-E? Yeah, G-O-N-E. My guy Theo Ulrich, walk out of the E-L-S-G. He's back, baby. He's back. That was a great walkout. Walking Dead? Yeah, yeah, shout-out.

All right. That's some news and notes. You know, a little discussion around the John Jones Daniel Cormier rivalry, which we just had to get that out of way. We had to have some normal conversation before we got to the main event of the evening, which is the first annual backies. Frank, do we have some music for this? You know, I was looking for something a little. Welcome in to the first annual, the inaugural Backy Awards. Thanks for joining us, everyone.

I did want to shout out off the top. Every award winner will receive an AI-generated E-TF Award, no not E-T-F-T. NFT Award, the backies. Look at that. Nice big, strong back in a cup. It'll be numbered. It'll be yours to own the NFT of the Bakke Award.

Yes, every winner will get sent that into their Coinbase wallet. So make sure you have that one open. AI-generated. That thing took three seconds to create. Shout out to our great AI artists. And that is the backy, and that brings us to our very first award of the evening. 14 categories, folks.

The first award is the Bronsalino Award. We had to start early with this one because it is the best early prelim fight of the night. You know our guy in honor, action Bronson, boots on the ground from Fight One in the arena. A lot of people, as we were discussing this in the war room, we were discussing, you know, what do we name these things?

Who do we do them in honor? A lot of push to make this the Theo Vaughan Award? No. That was Stiff on. This is the Bronsolino Award. We all know his harrowing tale, Mel Gibson, COVID, fight one of the night. There's nothing better than Bratelino.

We're seeing like him in like a Patrick Ewing jersey, like in between the cages. There's nothing better. the best early prelim fight of the night and our announcer Mysterious Franklin's will be I gotta stop I gotta stop saying the last name after saying mysterious

that makes it much less mysterious They're just calling me Franklin You'll be announcing the winners this evening All right Well Let's see here The winner is Iwo Baranowski

Versus Ebo Aslan Wow congratulations to those guys Wow wow Congratulations. A very deserving award for this one. There were many great early prelims, but this one, some people had this as their fight of the year.

This is my number two. Yeah, I think Pizzi added it as fight of the year. Absolute Barn burner. Ends in a finish. Just back and forth a fair. Look at these shots that we're getting from it. They were bombing on each other.

We will have to send two NFTs, so one to each of them. But congratulations to Iwo Barnawski and Ebo Oslon. It's the beauty of the NFT. You could just command C. Command B. Yeah, but they can own that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not the, it's not the, um, do you think by like year five we can have Action Bronson, like actually award the person the, the, A, I think we can have it by year two. I also think by year two we can have like nominees. I think we'll add some production value. We'll keep adding it up to this as we go along. Who the fuck is we? This is just, this is just the first annual and this all came from like a text while I was sitting on my couch like three glasses of wine deep on like,

December 27th or something over the break. That's how that started. Takes us to category number two, the... 30 million for the kitchen scrap award, which is, you know, shortened to the kitchen scrap award, which is in honor of, you know, John Jones being out in Russia, Thailand doing that. It is the biggest and easiest bag of the year.

Who got paid the most for the easiest job? John Jones going against Nate Diaz, ends up quitting. That's the origination of the kitchen scrap soundbite. So the kitchen scrap award is who had the biggest payday with the easiest job in front of them?

Yeah, legalized robbery. Who pulled off a legalized robbery this year? And the winner is? And this year's winner is Anthony Joshua knocking out Jake Paul. Wow, congratulations to AJ. Congratulations to AJ, yeah.

There it is. Don't know exactly how much he got paid. It wasn't his biggest payday ever, but definitely his easiest fight ever. Eddie Hearns said it was a very generous sum of money. And by the rounds four, five, six, I mean, it was always set in stone, but by the end, there was never a chance for Jake Paul. Anthony Joshua got to go out there, fight the easiest fight of his life, get the biggest popularity gain

maybe he's ever had since like winning the Olympics. Yeah. Be beloved by all American women. women and women that are just now learning about him and get one of the biggest paydays ever. I mean, and spend a, you know, a couple of weeks in Miami and get that knockout. Yeah. It was legalized robbery. Congratulations on winning the Kitchen Scrap Award. Would be weird if we didn't also note, then obviously the tragedy that followed it, thinking of A.J. Of course. Hope he's well. And hopefully he's able to move on and rest up. And continue to get better as time goes on. That takes us to the third award.

of the evening. It's the Feel Like We Got a Award. Oh, tell me about this one. Which you aren't familiar. Every time there is a exotic fight location. I'm always like, let's go, let's go, let's go. I'll book the flights right now. Seriously, I got the flights. I'll book them right now. And Rick usually follows it up with... Feels like we gotta. Feel like we gotta. And then we inevitably never go. Unless it's a shit location like Des Moines, Iowa, which we went to in May of last year. So the Feel Like We Gotta Award is the best fight location, and this doesn't just have to be UFC. It can be anywhere. Yep. You know, you had Baku, you had Qatar, a lot of, a lot of German promotions. You know, it's rising in Japan, won championship in the Pacific. I have to make a confession. Yeah. I almost last minute changed this, but the reason I didn't is because I forgot to consult you on it. Oh, wow. I really wanted to change it. What were you going to change it too? The muckleshoot casino fights. next year we got to hit someone up the feel like we got a award presented by muckle shoot casino all right i really wanted to change it back like pre show you were out of the room i was talking to jordan i was

like fuck i just thought of muckle shoot can we can do we get any illegal trouble if we say this this is presented by muckle shoot casino i hope not we're just going to risk it this is the feel like we got an award presented by muckle shoot casino it was a muckleshoot resort what What is the actual resort? Are we still going to that? Seattle. There's a UFC Seattle. Feel like we got us. Feel like we got them. Munklechoo Casino Resort is both. Oh, I'm so down.

Oh, shout out to Muckleshoot. And this year's winner is, PFL Cape Town. Cape Town gets the win. Wow. Jordan even added the presented by Muckles. Wow, congratulations to PFL getting their first BACCII award win. I mean, we've given one out to UFC to MVP and now PFL with their fights in Cape Town, South Africa. Wow, yeah, look at that poster. It's pretty cool that they went to South Africa.

It's very cool. It's very cool. And it was a great card, man. That was the, that was Costello. The climactic ending, yeah, was absolutely incredible. Dakota had a great performance. It is cool. And, you know, obviously, when we talked about this in the past, like, on the heels of Dana White saying, we're going to go to Spain, we're going to go to Africa.

Africa and PFL was like, yeah, we're actually just going to go to Africa. And they've launched an entire PFL Africa division. They're just going to Spain. Yeah. And they're just able to do it. Incredible stuff. Congratulations to PFL. Congratulations to all the fighters on PFL Cape Down.

Do we send them all the NFT? Yep. Every single fighter on that card. It'll be like a ring situation with like an NBA and NFL team. Like everybody who was there working social. We're ring announcers, reps. You'll all be receiving your NFTs, your backy NFTs. obviously numbered to it, but congratulations

on winning the first ever feel like we got an award presented by Muckles Chute Casino and Resort we're really presented by Muckelshoot Casino and Resort which actually breeds us to us letting you know for BFL Seattle or for UFC Seattle will actually be staying there

just outside of beautiful Seattle we'll be staying at the Muckelshoot Casino and Resort. All right, award number four. This is the Armand-Saurukian Honorary Fight Feast or Feast of the Year award, which is the best fight feast. Now, obviously, this would be a layup to just go with the action Bronson fightfeast, the movie. That was the obvious one. But let's go with strictly just like the time that was had, the food that was had outside the Bronson one,

because that was the best fight feast of the year. We all know it. But we do have to, you know, shout out to the smaller ones, you know, the really, trying the cuisine of a destination or of a fighter. Frankie, you take it away, man. It's my pleasure to present the Czech fight feast. Yes, yes. That's a good one.

That was a great one. Yeah, that was actually just a great day, Frank. It was a nice, like, September afternoon. We went to, like, a really, really Czech restaurant. Everyone in there was, like, Eastern European, had some cheese, some dumplings. It was a fantastic meal. Wow, what a pull. unbelievable great a cheese pool of all time

and then we go to a beer garden after it frankie was like I got a beer garden I was like yeah for sure man fuck off and then we went and I was like this place is incredible uh we watched NFL it was a great day it was a great video uh I don't have the screenshot but we actually got featured in a check a news outlet in the Czech Republic it was like all in Czech and then it's my dumb ass with a cheese bowl

they're like honoring Jerry Prohaska so yeah the Czech fight Feast, the Armans Rukian Feast of the Year award. Frank, would this have been your pick as well? Absolutely. It was a great day. Had a lot of fun. The food was amazing and the company was even better. Oh, such a good day. So nice. Such a good day. Now, just like the wait staff, like, do the patrons of the restaurant? Who gets the NFT at this point? Everyone who goes to the restaurant. Everyone who ever went? Everyone at Caliba and then the writer of the Czech article will also receive one. And then the bartenders at the at the beer garden. Love it.

All right. This takes us to our next category. The Federal fucking prison award, which is the biggest scandal in combat sports. The biggest controversy in combat sports in 2025. In my mind, I feel like I know where this is going. Yeah, same. It could only be one thing. Frankie, take it one. It is the UFC gambling scandal. Yeah, yeah. That was a big one. Is that a name? Prison. Okay, yeah, nice, nice, nice. The drawn-out one is very good. Yeah, the gambling scandal that happened back in.

Who gets the NFTs here? Nobody. Every inmate who has ever served time in the United States. In federal prison? It doesn't go to Cash Patel. No. Doesn't go to Cash Patel. Isaac Dolgarian, you know, I feel like anyone part of this scandal also

has owned NFTs as well I don't want to make that assumption but several NFTs Not all people involved in scandals have owned NFTs but everybody involved in this scandal has owned an NFTs for sure at some point

Yeah that one shook up the world for a minute here We were gonna have to wait for any sort of updates Obviously it's a federal investigation But yeah that was crazy And could have major implications on the future of the sport Absolutely Next up, our next category. The on-air Jordan Vacation Award.

This is to a fighter that we really wanted to see fight in 2025, but unfortunately did not. Yeah. Who was too busy on vacation to contribute to the thing that we're all building here, named after its namesake on-air Jordan? On-air Jordan, it feels like any time we meet him. Who couldn't make the time? I'm going to Portugal.

Yeah. Oh, hey, man. I actually need some help with, sorry, man, I'm on the way to Costa Rica. Oh, okay. Well, if you could just help me, nope, sorry, dude. I'm actually on the way to Thailand right now. All right, thanks, Jordan. I appreciate it.

Having a baby. What kind of bullshit? Like, what's going on over there? Paternity leave for sure, man. Jordan, what do you have to say for yourself? All right. Okay, sick. He's on vacation already.

Yeah, he's on vacation. Where's he going now? Where's he going now? Australia? My God. He didn't say. He heard on air Jordan vacate. Oh, I'm out.

He's gone. I'm out. No, unlimited PTO, we all know what that means. Jordan takes it literally. Jordan, you have to book him to work as opposed to booking the time off. Frankie, the winner? This year's honorable winner is. Cedric Dumbet.

That's a good shout. Whoa, how did he do that? That is a good shout. He's phoned in remotely from the beach somewhere. Yeah, Ced Dume hasn't fought since, like, May of 2024. Horrible. Horrible. Like, where is one of the biggest stars that PFL has?

Where is one of the biggest stars in French MMA? Like, he's just off the face of the earth. Like, and we have no updates on this. Nice candidate for this, a nominee that ended up not winning. Shopcott Rockmanov. Oh, yeah. Damn, that would have been a good one. That would have been a good one.

But yeah, Cedric Dunebe, man. Where do we even send the NFT? Can we find Cedric Dunebe? Yeah, I don't know. Somewhere on a remote island. I'm going to have Jordan look into how to find Cedric Dubei to give him the NFT. You have to find Jordan.

And Jordan will not be found. Yeah. Shout out to Cedric Dunebate. Congratulations on winning the on-air Jordan Vacation Award. Next up, the Mailman Fight League Award. This one originating from the voicemails

and our, what's the word for it? Our league that's just getting started. Yeah, like a fledgling organization. A fledgling organization. That's a good way to call it. The MMAFL. mailman fight league

MMFL yeah mailman association fight league the MMAFL and this is who delivered this year in 2025 who built it up who promised and

delivered who was of their word who delivered on what they said they were going to do like we're talking about Jordan never around always taking vacation who's the one that showed up and did exactly what they said they're going to do they delivered like the mailman the great men and women of the male men fight league.

Yeah, you could think like a Piotr Yon getting his belt back. Yeah, exactly. And Armid Surruki and saying he's going to run through Dan Hooker. Doing it. Something like that. Emphatic. Yes, yes, yes. Emphatic said that they were going to do, delivered for themselves and the UFC.

Frankie, the winner. Alex Pereira versus Magamud. Ah, great shout. Congratulations to Alex. Yeah, that's actually a really great shout. said he was injured in the first fight said he was going to come back on the second one and knock him out

finish him and sure enough Cabi LeMay 60 seconds later however long it took him he gets the knockout he writes the wrong and gets his belt back delivered congratulations on winning the mailman fight league award we'll actually print out a picture of your ETF and mail that one to you there God why don't I keep saying ETF

ETF is also a financial instrument yeah it's a you know a very sound investment tool NFT is the exact opposite of that. So shout out to Alex Brer. Shout out of Alex. I'm winning the inaugural Mailman Fight League Award. The next award, the award, which is the longest and hardest name to pronounce. Like a new name that entered our sphere.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We really were like, oh boy, we're going to have some trouble with this one. You just look at it and you're like, mm-hmm. Yeah, you're like, I'm not so sure about that one. Think like a by Sanger Susserkaya. 100%. Or a Ghazi Rabadanov. Who's the other guy in PFL?

The one that you always get tripped up on. Always. But I don't have trouble with them. It's not Mowlid Kubalayaev. Havulayev? No, it's, it was like a light heavy way, right? I forget the name. Dovlet.

Oh, Dovlet, Yogsharimaridov. Yeah. Yeah, the toughest name to pronounce. There were some good ones, especially if you went into into Dana-Wi Contender

Series Jean-Paul Lebonso Lebo-Snowiani who actually has a fight coming up I think he's

on that UFC Houston card. We should acknowledge that anybody could have

won this award. Any one of these There are many, many, many, Azamat

Nufthalyev Kaishuk Seikulmar Frankie, who's the winner, brother? It's my

pleasure to announce Mantis Condrew Tivisis Wow. Ending with DeVicious

for the Jasmine Jazz DeViscius Award. That's inspired right there. Montes Condra Tavisius. Montas Condra Tavisius. That's not that hour. Congratulations to Mondas.

If he ends up winning this year, we'll have him on the boys in the back and we'll get a drop of him saying Condra Tvisius and be able to play it throughout the year. And it's pronounced Mantis. Condra

Jazz Divisius So there it is That's how you say Condra Tevisius So we need We need someone to put Jazz DeVicious

through AI and keep it in the same exact tone and meaning and get it to say Condra Tavisius That's not my dream Congratulations to Montes

Because then we will then have Montes Condutovicius Presents the Jasmine Jazz Devisius Award Montra Cantavizius

Presents the Jazzette Montes Contra Devisius shout out to you. Congratulations. Your NFC will be in your email shortly. Next up, we're going to spell it rug, one letter off. It's not going to get delivered. We have a better chance getting his Bitcoin wallet right than we do his email address, correct? Next up, it is the Alfie, the Axeman Davis Award. If you know Alfie, the Axeman Davis, an unbelievable year in PFL.

Yes, champion. champion against who was it against? Was it against Yacht Shiramana? No, it was against Gadsi Rabadanov. He beat Godzi and he's facing Usman. Yes, another massive underdog

in that one was a massive underdog. One of the most profitable players of year. He was plus a thousand or something crazy, didn't you tell me? Huge, huge underdog in that one. But this is not about his season. Exactly. This is about his season being so good that one of his mates

got him with the best. belt tattooed on his calf? Was it his calf? His leg, yeah. We have the picture here. It's not just Alfie and Don. It is a tattoo of Alfie and Don with the belt, which brings us to the worst tattoo of the year.

MMA has some unbelievable tattoos, some fantastic tattoos out there. On the flip side of that, it also has some of the worst tattoos. And so in honor of Alfie the Axeman Davis and a tattoo gotten done by his mate, the worst tattoo of the year is Frankie. The Alfie and Don Davis tattoo. Oh, wow! The namesake gets the win! That's unbelievable. That is unbelievable. Wow. Wow. Now, we will say, to be kind here, it is a great tattoo artistically. Oh, yes. It's done very well.

It's the fact that Don Davis is kind of creeping in the back. The Don Davis part of it. The Don Davis part is tough. The Davis and Davis connection is tough, but yeah. Even seeing it again. It's tough. It's crazy. Okay, I will also say it has very significant meaning to the gentleman who's friends with Alfie.

That part is like, a thousand percent. It's super meaningful to him. Still probably not doing that for my boy. I'm still probably not doing that for my boy. Well, if you did it for your boy, the one thing I'd say is if Don Davis was cooking in the back. Is there any chance? Is there any chance?

He just assumed that it was just going to be of Alfie Davis, and then the guy finished, and he was like, he was like, all done, and he wiped it off, and he was like, wait. No, dude, he put his stencil on me. You put Don, there's Don Davis's in there. Yeah, I thought you wanted the exact picture. No, I didn't want Don in there. Well, man, there's really not much I can fucking do now.

I just tattooed it on your ass. And by your ass, I mean, his cat. Oh, my God. So you're saying I sat here for another three hours so you could put in Don Davis in the background? What's the cover-up tattoo? Is it a bigger picture of Don Davis? He's just black it out. No, it's a bigger picture of Alfie Davis.

No, you don't get a bigger picture of Don. I just can't believe Don made it. I cannot believe. Can we see it one more? time? Is there any way we can zoom and enhance on Don? Like, look at Don. It's fucking ridiculous. I can't believe Don Davis is in the tattoo. Oh, it's so good. It's so good. I mean, I mean, Alfie looks incredible. Alfie looks incredible. I mean, in real life, too. God, that's a handsome dude. Handsome bloke. There we go. Don is fucking crazy. Shout to Don Davis. Shout to

to Alfie the Axman and his boy. Congratulations on the inaugural. On Davis, because you're on the tattoo, you will also be receiving your Backey NFT. What about the tattoo artist? For sure. Yeah. They get a Backey. Of course, yes.

Yes, of course. And to the tattoo artist, it's a great tattoo. You nailed it. Yeah. Almost too much is the problem. You nailed it. It's just the idea of Don Davis being on the tattoo. All right.

Our next category, it is the... Who's to check? award, which is given out annually on this program to the best fighter from the Czech Republic, the best Czech fighter in all of combat sports. MMA

specifically when I say all of combat sports, it's actually just MMA. It's not boxing or anything like that. It's just the best Czech MMA fighter. There's a lot of names you could go with here, but Frank, I'll let you, I'll let you name me the winner. Yeah, it was tough this year.

This year's winner is Uri Pro-Owasker. Oh, shit. I wasn't even thinking of them. Who could it have... Man, that's crazy. Wow. He had to be an underdog to win this one.

An upset for the ages by one Yerriy Prahashka. That is a live reaction from Yerai Phrashka. I thought there was going to be a chance. It was going to be Ronald Rony Paradisor. A lot of people were saying Daniel Ligaki. For sure. I remember that. I mean, four fights in 2025.

Rumblings of Lugaki were... Who could forget. get Meitej, Spartacus Kuznik, Jakob Batfalski. There's, that's just to name a few in one of the most stacked award classes of the entire program, but in the end, Yuri Brahashka stood tallus. Should we call Yuri and Esther's reaction? No, no, no, we're going to send the NFT. Actually, what if his reaction is like my reaction?

And then we get to sit here and be like, all right, man. Just playing it a little too much. Just an NFT of a back trophy. AI generated as well. We put no effort into it. Shout out to Yuri, who it seems like might have a fight coming up. He shot down some of the rumors, but he said they're in negotiations. Also a baby on the way.

Big, big upcoming year for Yuri, but obviously the most important thing is he won the backy this year. Yes, congratulations for winning the first ever Who's to Check Award. I imagine that one is going to be competitive for years and years to come. Yes. Next up is the Belal Muhammad Award, given an honor to the best young prospect in all of combat sports. There's a lot this year. Obviously, you've got names like Elise Pereira, Raul Roses Jr., Joshua Van, just 24 years old.

24 years old, second youngest champion ever. And he's already the champion. But, you know, this is about the best young prospect. Who's a killer in the gym, right? They're training, and you can't keep them off you. But vitalizing the old guys in the gym. And then when they step in the cage, they deliver the goods. The best young prospect, Frankie, the winner is.

Kevin Vajos. Without the sex. Oh, wow. Kevin, congratulations, man. Kevin Vichaios. Wow, wins the Balaam-Mohmahman Award without the sex. Sex. Congratulations to Kevin Viejos. The hottest young prospect in all of M.M.A. You got to love the young prospects. I mean, he had a great, a great 20, 25, and...

Four and oh? What did he go? I think he went three and oh, a fight in March against Sungwu Choi, a fight in August against Danny Silva, and then finished it off. On the last card of the year in December, against Giga Chikaze. It was on the Tender series in 2024. against Camp Teague. But yeah, now finds himself at 17 and 1. Potentially a big fight against Luke Riley.

I don't know if it's going to happen early, but they're beefing on social media, two bigger names. But yeah, just 24 years old for Kevin Viejos, and just turned that as well. Birthday is until December.

Josh, fan, I feel like, you know, obviously I'm not one of the judges for this. I'm not one of the selectors of this award. But I feel like Josh Fan, he kind of was already cemented. Yeah, when you're already

the second youngest champion, and you're not the guy who's like helping other people get the reps, you know? You're not the one giving the reps in the gym. So shout out to Kevin Vichayos. Oh, all right. That is 11 categories down. Just three to go here on the first ever edition of the Backey Awards. And that brings us to Frank's Mom's Ass Award,

which is given every year here on the program, to the man that not only... Or woman. Or woman, of course, to not only stepped up, but was always there when the company needed them. The biggest company man, the man who, no matter what happens,

it's the company first. That's it. Who put the company before themselves? Selfless, right? And when the call went out and they needed to be there, they were always there. Exactly.

That's a perfect way to describe it. I don't want to, I don't want to, yeah, that's the perfect way. I was going to say, you don't want to defame him and be like, oh, it's ass kiss or mom. No, no, no, no. not about that. It's just

biggest company man. Company man. Frankie, take it away. It is my honor. To announce Marab, Devalosvili, is a wow. Wow, wow. A fitting victory for Marab as well. An unbelievable year was always

there. Four title fights. When the company needed them, after he wins at UFC 311, he's shaking Dana a hand, thanking him so much. I'm nothing without the UFC. Thank you so much for having me all the way to when he loses the belt in December. he immediately goes over to Dana White. Thank you so much.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate this. I'm nothing without the UFC. He is a man who, when the company called on him, he answered. Yeah, and not only that, there had been friction in the past this year. Three title defenses. He's the name on everybody's lips. Chase's Immortality with a fourth title defense. He was there putting the company first this year.

Shout out to him. Congratulations to Marab. Many people giving him fighter of the year. It was one of them. we are giving him the first annual Frank's mom's ass award Frank, do your mom have any thoughts on that?

I no longer talk to him. Okay. Are we getting a real-life sculpture made as a la Ariel's nose for this award? I mean, we can. Frank's going to take the mold.

Jesus, Frank, that is your mother! You heard him? No. He was like, it'd be a nice-looking trophy. I was making the joke that he's going to do the mold and he's doing the joke already. Congratulations to Marad de Balasvili. Next up, only two categories to go here on the program.

Wow, we're down to the last two. We're flying through him. And the 13th award is the Davy Ramos James Tehuna Award. That was my fault, Frank. I know you had the drop for it and I stepped on you there. That's my bad. The Davy Ramos. James Tehuno Award.

This goes to the fighter that we really just kind of forgot they fought, man. We sort of mixed them up. It was like, did they fight? It's like, did they? Were they there? I'm not, who was it? I'm not quite certain. Did they fight?

Obviously, paying homage to the moment right here with Ariel Hawani and Taitui Vasa, where he confused Tyson Pedro for James Tehuna. And obviously, the Davy Ramos presenting the award. the James Tehouno Award is in honor of that time. We were in a heated debate about Islam Makashchev, and Ariel mentioned his loss to Davy Ramos. Who is Adriano Martins? It is Adriano Martins,

but we were in the heat of battle, and Davy Ramos was the one we went with then. So the Davy Ramos James Tihuna Award. Who did we forget fight this? Who was it? I'm confused about this one. I can't remember. Who's the winner, Frankie?

Victor Namgov Oh Victor Nemcov Wow congratulations to Victor Nemcov Brother of Vakitin Nemcov And I believe we have the tweet here The origination

Of Victor Nemcov getting in the ring Joe Rogan talking about You have to be in the UFC if you want to be the best in the world And he said is that really true Francis and Ghanu. It's a good list so far.

Chris Cyborg, Uzbondermagimadov, Corey Anderson, Paul Hughes, and of course, Victor Nimcov also following his mentoring coach Fyodor and not in the UFC.

Shout out to Victor Nemcov. He had a hell of a year. Shout out to Victor Nimcob. Obviously, Don Davis meant Vadim Nemcov, though he does have a... Or did he mean Victor?

He does have a brother named Victor Nimcov. He also would have spelled that wrong. V.I.K. T-O-R, Victor Nemcoff. Do we have a picture of the brothers? Is that a thing? No, no picture of...

Bedeem and Victor? Of old Vic Nemcov. But yes, the honorary inaugural winner of the Davy Ramos James Tohouno Award is Victor Nemcoff, with a C. Congratulations, Victor.

Congrats, Victor. You'll be getting your... We don't know who he is? You'll be getting your NFT. By default, we'll send it to Victor V-I-K. There he is. Congratulations to Victor Nemcov. M1 gloves there.

It's good stuff. That's good stuff. Shout out to Victor Nimcoff. Last award. That leads us to our final award of the year of the program, and that is the Boys in the Back Award. This is the flagship of the program, the one that everybody seeks out. Most prestigious. Most prestigious.

And it's the best behind the scenes moment, the best, you know. There's different ways you can interpret this one. There's many ways that you can interpret this one. You could do the behind the scenes. You could also do, like, who's got your back? Like, who's got your back? Who's got your back? Who's got your back?

The boys in the back. It could be, like, a Piotr-Yon's coach with the iPad. Yeah, Kyra with the decision. Man, nice moves, man. Nice moves back there. It could be Andrei Arlovsky, getting into a fight in the back. Stage. In the back.

But ultimately, there can only be one winner of the Boys in the Back Award. Frank, go ahead. And this year's winner of the Boys in the Back Award is All of the Dagestanis versus Dylan Dennis at UFC 322. A rightful winner. Shut down the show at UFC 322. Got Dylan Dennis kicked out. Was a brawl for the ages.

And yeah, a massive moment in MMA and a massive moment for this program because it leads to the first ever winner of the Boys in the Back Award. The Boys in the Back Award, they had each other's backs. They were also happening in back of everything that was going on in the broadcast. Yeah, if we all remember the brilliant shot of them kicking off the broadcast, John Anick, and then John Anick keeps talking, and Joe Rogan and D.C. are standing here like this. That's right. We saw their backs.

Literally looking in the back while we see their backs. So the first ever Boys in the Back Award goes to the Dog of Stans. And we will naturally, obviously, you know, you have to send it to both parties involved. We will send it to all the team Dagestan, as well as Dylan Dennis. Dylan Dennis will get it, the NFT, and also every citizen in... Every citizen of this. In Machshala will also be. Oh, my God.

John Pork, obviously, gets special. John Pork is somehow not getting an award tonight. The John Pork Award? Do we have to come up with a... This is the end of the backies. They were fantastic. I've never had more fun. shout out to everybody involved

in this prestigious award ceremony I feel like we can soup it up for next year like you talked about increasing the production but maybe we add new categories like if you have some ideas let us know maybe call in maybe send an email

send a super chat tweet best way for me to see a tweet tweet at me any new award categories drop a comment on this video like subscribe and comment what award we should add next year

Yeah, we want to beef these bad boys up. Maybe add a little production. But there it is. There is your AI-generated NFT that will be sent to all the winners. Congratulations to all the winners of the backies this year. First annual, baby. First annual. Wow.

Like, there's some, I can't, like, yeary winning? Wow. Who's to check? Check. What a moment. In all seriousness, that was actually so much fun. to create all the awards and then make the winners as well. Yeah, if we had fun with that.

So shout out. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Half as much as we did. Frankie, do we have any voicemails? Voice mails! O'hoi-hoi-hoi. Yo, boys in the back, it's Jammer.

What's up, Jammer? I miss you guys. I hope you guys all had a good holidays and everything. But anyways, got a question. this week. Which one of these three things do you guys think is the most likely to happen at the White House?

One, Sean O'Malley regaining his belt versus Peter Yon. Two, Connor McGregor actually fighting on the White House. Or three, Ilya Tuporia versus

Islam Makachov. Anyways, love you guys. Duce. Love you, Jim. I'm going to go with Connor McGregor fighting at the White House. Sean O'Malley has to beat Song Yadong and then that fight has to get booked so there's hurdles there and then he has to win the fight

Just yesterday I said I don't think Connor is going to fight on the White House card But is it still more likely than Ilya versus Islam I don't think O'Malley versus Yon can happen on the White House card because I think Yon will only fight like one time in the first half of the year

and it probably won't be against Sean O'Malley I still say Conner's the most likely because I don't think Ilya's going to be back for a bit. Yeah, Sam. So I'm going to go, Connor. 24-inch dobs here. We're all the way back,

and I'll tell you why. Frank pulls out 90s references of Bill Clinton and Rodney Kim. What's next? Dave Chappelle, Blackbush Yellowcake references, Power Rangers,

did you cook it? Maybe Transformers. Definitely some sort of like Pauly Shore movie. I love it. Frankie, you're the goat. Let's go 2026. Wee's in the juicer. Let's go 2026.

That Rodney King drop yesterday was some of the most out of left field shit I've ever heard. And I was left winged. I was sitting on my couch last night and I started dying laughing at how ridiculous the idea that like we're just going to the prediction show and we get a Rodney King drop 22 years after. the famous speech. My favorite, I had a neighbor that wrote screenplays, and he had one, that there's a guy waiting in traffic and a landscaping truck comes by, and it says the Rodney King landscaping company, can't we all just get a lawn? Wow.

Some of my favorites. Not bad. Is that what started it? We need a mashup. You were doing the Bill Clinton. I did not have sexual relations with that one. I think you need to mismatch, make a little mashup. and do i did have relations with the the sex see you beat me to it can you imagine

if he had said it like i did have relations with that woman and then it goes to belal mahomet without uh the sex thanks below the sex the young prospect of the boys are back in the studio the boys are back in the studio the boys are back It's your boy, Bobkins. Hopefully everybody had a great time. New Year's, you know, Christmas, you know, all the holidays. Hopefully everybody had a great one. You too, Bikin.

I got a question here. I'm going to have a real problem. Okay. So I go to the gym every morning. Hell you. And there's this young 19-year-old kid. And every day, I'm just trying to get my workout in. He got to spend the whole time I'm trying to get my workout in talking to me about the UFC.

I love talking fights, but I feel like at the gym, not a place to do that, or at least like not the whole hour while I'm trying to work out, you know? You guys got any advice. I'm sure this happens to you guys everywhere you go, because you guys are, you know, run the city of New York. But Bodkins out, baby. Have a blessed Thursday. Shut up, Bodkins. What do you do with somebody's trying to yap your ear off?

You have to just move. You have to create distance. at some point. Are you doing like a, like you start walking away like, all right. Like you start making it clear like we're parting ways here. Yeah, you literally start as they're talking, taking steps away from them being like, all right, man, I got a, I got to bounce. Like I got to roll on out of here, man.

And like, or at the gym too, you use the headphones as your friend. And like you literally start walking away while putting your headphone back on. Make it as clear as possible because I don't know if you're giving him the energy that you don't want to continue the conversation. I can see Bodkins with the way. talks like him being like all into the conversation combo the starting to walk away putting on the headphones and like being like yeah man hey yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure like you be thrown on the headphones like one when he comes over to you just just hit him with the the lift what's up

man yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i can't wait for sex yeah yeah i don't think that comes up in the gym yeah yeah yeah yeah you're like you're like you're like you're you're leaning over. That's what you do. You slowly do the walk away. I will say it doesn't happen that often, but it's happened several times to me. And I hope no one it's ever happened to is listening right now,

but there are a few things worse than you get in the sauna. There's nowhere to go. And he just started. And someone's like, what do you think of the fights this weekend? Did you consider getting out of the sauna? No, no, no, no, no. I'm in there for the full 20. But like, they wave it away?

dude you're you're sitting eight inches from this person and like i don't bring i don't bring the phone i don't bring headphones i don't bring anything in there it's like too hot the phone overheats like the metal on your headphones like gets to where you can't touch it so like you just go in you're just like yeah man can't wait for him no i can't wait let's let's break them down dude what about like a close the eyes move like i'm you know it's like yeah yeah you The noise or the smell you're more concerned about. No, I'm not concerned about anything. I'm concerned about having to hold a 20-minute conversation

that I don't want to have to have. And also, there's an unwritten rule. You're in the sauna. What do you mean the smell? I think I misunderstood what you were saying. No, dude, it has nothing to do with the person. It's like, you're also in the sauna, and there's usually like five or six dudes in there,

and then you're the two having the conversation. So you have to be like, all right, we're really going to be the guys. So, like, now everyone is listening to the conversation as well. Yeah, yeah, everybody around is like, oh, what are they talking about? Yeah. I felt a little bit that, like, when we were on the plane, and there was a fan who came on the plane who was like, you know, who's just like recognized us, but wasn't going for the Jake Paul fight down to Miami. And then the rest of the flight, the people over here were looking at me like, who the fuck is this guy?

Like, why was that person talking to him getting on the plane? Shout out. I have a bad habit of not ending the conversation. I just, if you got an hour in you, I'm game. I typically don't either. I don't either. I will say it's to my detriment. I will also say in my, I will be very nice and continue the conversation.

In my head, I'm just like, God. So let me get this right, Rick. Like a stranger, you'll make an hour for them. I'm trying to tell you something. You just tune me out. Yes, that is correct. And if you ask my wife, this applies universal. like you understand like the people closest to you are the easiest to kind of take take for granted and shoe away and then give the sex without the sex you give more time to the strangers um you in particular though it's because i don't like you

picked up on that um but uh yeah i i if you're a ypper i'm probably the right target because i'll yap with you for too long the back, Matt from Dagestan, happy holidays. I know you guys are free. I don't even know if you're doing voicemails. Hopefully you saved this one. We saved you guys. Happy holiday. I just got done listening to your live show, and I want to do a

quick power ranking of all-time knives in the back. At number three, I have Pontius Pilate killing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the cross. On number two, the Montreal Screwjob. I don't even watch wrestling. I know what that is.

And number one, my jaw is on the floor. Ariel Hawani stabbing you guys in the back with Jorge Masvedol. I think we can all agree Jorge is a real fighter through and through. He absolutely buries you guys and forces you to come out live and see him. I want you guys to talk about what you were feeling. If you were actually worried, my draw is on the floor. We have a word for that in Dagestan And it is coward

Not you, Helwani My jaw's on the floor I'll hang up and listen Matt, that's a hot take man We appreciate you paying the extra minutes To call all the way from Dagestan I love the Matt from Dagestan And there's no verification

It's just like, yeah I lived in Chicago, I went to Dagestan It went to Dagestan In the back, me and Rick We're literally like, why the fuck are you doing this? There was no real concern because we had already been in the back with Jorge. We were the ones that walked him in

and like we were chilling in the back with him. Now, did he know that we were the dorks that he had called out before? Probably not, but like, they're also like, he's on stage with Hawani and Kaylin in front of 160 people. Like, the concern of him actually doing something was incredibly low.

The more of like the slow walkout was just like, why the fuck is this guy doing this, dude? Like, it definitely was. Like, he talks about like, he threw me under the bus with me him and Pena when I was like, no, I didn't say you weren't going to be a fighter of the year. He threw us under the bus heavy there. Yeah, he did. But I will say it made for a funny moment. And like, Jorge was game. That's the thing. Like, Jorge was willing to play with it, which was very slow. Also, like, we're in the back. I'm

like, I don't want to go out there, bro. I'm not going to get a microphone. I'm going to be shoved into the corner. I'm going to look like a dickhead. That exactly played out to a T. And then I'm going to have to walk back and then he's going to call me out there again to actually talk and I'm going to have to walk back again. I was like, this fucking guy. There's a, there's a subtle, what I was thinking in that moment was like, shit, I don't want to do this because of the reasons you said, like, we're going to be standing there and Jorge's going to get to tee off on us, not punches wise, like, just like make fun of us. Um, because obviously, I don't know how you were thinking about this, but like, I can't say shit back to Horre Mazvedal. Like, or he's,

like, you fucking loser. Like, no matter what he would have said, I wouldn't have opened my mouth. I wouldn't have said of work. But there's a subtle moment there where, like, I think Halwani's like, you guys face off or something, and I just push Connor to the front. I would have been down with it. I would have been down with the face off. I don't think Jorge heard him. You got this.

It ended up being very funny, though. Yeah, it was fun. It was fun. Juanita afterwards, he's like, no, I'm just fucking around with that stuff, right? I was just like, yeah, but we still had to, like, it's still happened. Like, what do you mean? Jorge's the man, though. Yes, Jorge is the man.

So was Kayla. Yeah, that was, God, the live show was great. If you haven't seen it, it's on the YouTube channel. Go check it out. The live show was really fun in Miami. Yo, what's up, boys, Ryan from New Jersey. Is that Ryan? Hey, 8 and the boys.

Just here on Saturday, getting ready to the last USC card a year, watching this pretty terrible PFL card. And just thinking, have Dan Hardy and Kirk Dean ever been in a room since that USC event? Obviously, I know Dan Hardy hasn't called USC, but, you know, PFL maybe. That's a good question. Who's the check? We used to share. We have 47 time listener, so shout out.

47. Last card of the year had Cyborg and Nadine Mankoff or whatever his name is and just riding on. Whatever his name is. Bigger. I know Rick picked V.A.O. James Tilling? High on Yarmislav Walslaw for whatever his name is.

So these last two picks ride on you, Rick. I got you. If I don't win this card of the year. They both won. The Shaios and Amoslav one. We're ending down, just like the Parlay Boys. So much like the Boys in the Back's performance on the show, it all rides on Rick. And I wanted to touch on 47-time listener because I had this sit-through 47 shitty Frank list.

So hopefully this is a good one. Shout out the boys again. And Frank, I wonder if you say mysterious because if there's ever a man that looks like a sicken weasel, that's freaking it, yeah? Not a bad, Connor Not bad That was a quality call, man I like the I like the

The reinforcement of us Making the right move on the Victor Nemcov Because he also didn't know who he was That was a great call A lot of A lot of deep plugs there That was great stuff man And you won your bet

So congratulations Congrats Boys in the back Here's a question that I'm curious to see if you'll actually answer because it's probably kind of a tricky one for you. Okay. My question is, throughout the years of the MMA hour,

do you think you're still able to remain an objective podcast? And I guess I ask this because I think you're the best MMA podcast, the only one I watch, the only channel I watch now with all the uncrown stuff. But because of, you know, reasons I'll say, there's personal relationships where you can't get certain, guests, certain managers, and such on the show. And so I think this creates kind of an issue where you have the best crew, the best people, and working on, you know, in the MMA space, but you can't get all of the guests. And so to me, as a fan and a listener, this kind of creates

a gap where I can't see my favorite people interview all of the people in the space, if that makes sense. So, yeah, curious to see if I actually answer this and just, you're thoughts on me, though. Thanks. I mean, my instant thoughts are yet, like, would I love to see Ariel be able to interview Islam Makachev? Obviously, right? Or Habib, or, you know, anybody, right? Obviously, he's alluding to the

idea of, like, Ali won't have his fighters in the show with some exceptions, right? We'd have Kayla Harrison. Kayla Harrison was hanging out with us in Miami. Would I love to see that? Yeah, of course. And I think Ariel would love to have that. I don't think there's any, like, doubt about that. But I don't think that inherently creates any kind of conflict or bias or anything. It's really just a prerogative by one person preventing their own athletes from getting that type of opportunity and exposure. From a coverage perspective, I don't think that changes like if Isamakachev gets a fantastic win, Ariel, us, Pizzi, everybody involved at the uncrowned editorial level, is going to cover it the same way as if somebody who comes on the show gets a win or so on and so forth.

So I don't think it necessarily creates any, like, bias or opportunities for bias from that perspective. But if you're asking, like, does it limit stuff? Yes, but that's not by our choice or selection, right? If Ariel could flip a switch in tomorrow, this on Makachev is sitting here to do an interview, it would be, it would happen, right? So I think it's more from the perspective of one person is making a decision that is limiting their own athletes' opportunities, not necessarily like that it changes how we cover or talk about the sport in any really significant way. You also just talk about like a fractured relationship or like the Ali thing. There's also guys that they just become superstars and they're incredibly difficult to get. That's right.

That's true. They're super famous. Like it's it's hard to have them come on. Like it's just like it's to get Elliott to Poria on the show isn't texting alien and being like, yo, 1.30 tomorrow? Yeah. Like there are hoops. Not anymore. Not these days.

Yeah. Like it's very difficult to get some of these people on and just like, tell me a show that gets everyone. Show me a show in any sports coverage that gets everyone. on the show that isn't a direct product of the league. Like, of course, like, a UFC show is going to be able to get all of the UFC fighters on because they can literally tell them, you must go on that show. But, like, show me an independent outlet that covers any sort of sports, like, that can get everyone on their programs.

Like, it's just, it's just the name of the game. It's just impossible to do. Like, part of my take, the biggest sports podcast out there, I'm sure, struggling. to get NFL guests sometimes just because there's guys that are such big superstars. It's not like they get everyone on the show. Joe Rogan, I'm sure there's plenty of people that won't go on his show. It's just like, it's just the name of the game. I think we did a fantastic job with how many guests we had on in 2025.

What was the number on unique? It was like over 300 something. 300 something unique guests. I think we had nine of the 11 active UFC champions on the show at one point, several of them in studio. That's also not counting JDM. was the champion at one time came in right after the belt. Like, I think we did very good and we're obviously doing the best that we can.

It's not like we're turning anyone down. Like, no, man. That's the key thing to focus in on. Like, Ariel is, he's the best in the business and he's trying to have everybody that we possibly can. If there was a world where that was possible, it would happen, right? That he is, he is the one who has consistently been able to make that happen and deliver that. And it's an incredible achievement that he's able to get as many as he is able to. and have these opportunities that are presented for the show.

And so, yeah, but as far as the, like, I think it's a compliment by this caller is how I'm interpreting it, which is like you get everybody, which is, again, a testament to aerial. We do actually get, like, nearly everybody who's involved in the sport. There's that group. There's a select few that aren't able to come on the show and are it accessible. But it speaks to what we are able to get, which is a tremendous number of the top names in MMA. and the other names in MMA as well, not just the top names,

the up-and-coming prospects and everybody else. So, yeah, there are some who will not be on the show, but that is not by our choice and nor does that change or influence how we kind of cover the sport. I was going to say when it comes to objectivity, it has absolutely nothing to do with it at all.

Like, go watch any fight where a person that doesn't come on the show performs, we view it the exact same way. Like, we're not sitting here being like, yes, XYZ lost, or fuck, he won. And I can't believe that. Now we can't talk about it.

Like, I think we give flowers and credit where credit is due. Number one, unbiased outlet. Whether they come on or not isn't going to change that. Yeah. Good up, guys. First time, not really my first time calling it. Actually, I've called it multiple times, but I never get through. Oh, it's the first time getting on.

Quick question for you guys. Congrats. Who is the non-concounter? Combat sports athlete that you are most sold can jump into a UFC octagon and start winning, right? It could be NBA, NFL, hockey, soccer, whatever it is. Who's the guy that you're putting your money behind saying, hey, if he goes to the UFC, he's going to knock somebody out? Love the show. Keep doing what you guys are doing. And, yeah.

That's a great question. Who's like the freakiest freak, I guess, is probably where I'm thinking. Like, is it LeBron? I was going to say, what sport would it come from? I think LeBron's too old now. Like, what sport would it come from? Would it come from basketball? But would it be, like, as an example, like, who's, like, a premium top tier, like, NFL athlete, right?

Like, Sequin Barclay is probably, like, up there. But is he, like, you'd probably need a heavyweight, right? You probably need somebody who's... Aaron Donald? Can he make 265 pounds? I think so. Aaron Donald weight, I mean, because he's kind of shorter. He's 284 right now.

We'll cut him down to 265. Yeah, Aaron Donald will probably be a pretty damn good answer. He's one of the strongest motherfuckers ever tackle you. Yeah. And then just got from there. You'd have to hope. I mean, he's in insane shape. Yeah, let's get Aaron Donald at $2.60.

I'm not mad at Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald, Gable Stephson. You know, see, debut, book it. Aaron Donald's a freak. Miles Garrett. Miles Garret would be freaking nuts. Can Miles Garrett get down? Miles Garrett might be 300.

Miles Garrett. No, no. Wait. 272. He could get to heavyweight. Yo. That's my answer. Miles Garrett is my answer.

Aaron Donald is a freak because he is three inches shorter than Miles Garrett. He's thick, though. You can see it. He's thick as hell. Yeah, Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett's my answer. Got the sack record. That actually should be tied with Jared Allen.

What? You know. I don't know about this. You know. Yeah, Jared Allen in the year that he got 22 sacks. He like sacked Aaron Rogers, but like as he was sacking him, Aaron Rogers fumbled it and then like went to recover it. and Jared Allen, like, tagged him down,

and they counted it as a team sack instead of it. That's rough. Yeah, yeah, Aaron Rogers even came out and was like, no, he got me. Damn. It's 23. Shout to Miles Garrett, though. Yeah, Miles Garrett's my answer.

Also, I did find the stats. 368 unique guests in, in 2025. 368. That's more than a person a day on average. Alex Pereira in studio three times, nine of the 11 current UFC champions and Ian Gary and Chale Sondon

shared the most appearances with six Pretty good I always see people say like Michael Chandler Kayla Harrison, Francis and Gano the exact same lineup every single week It's like they weren't even on most 368 unique guests

Yeah also fucking Kayla Harrison Michael Chandler and Francis and Gano like the biggest names in our sport Classic Classic All right

What up boy guys, something's been on my mind past month or so. G.C. last fight feast. You guys to pull it up. Take a look at Ariel doing push-ups. Yep. Please talk to him.

He's humping the ground without the sex. Keeps him how to do a push-up. Without the sex. I love to do them too much to have any respect with that kind of push-up. He's out, boys. Yeah, I don't know. I can't comment on that, man. I didn't think it was that bad.

I didn't see the push-ups. I was too locked in on mine, bro. Also, touching the ground. Like, I'm glad I wasn't involved in that situation. Oh, it was great. It was great, man. I think that's why knock on wood, I haven't gotten sick to this point because my immune system was built up from...

It mutated from that. I didn't wash my hands one time that day. Hand on the ground several times, ate three different meals. Dapped up so many people. Bronson just going knuckles every single time. I've tried that since. It's difficult. It is not easy.

He's a, he's a... Talk about a beast. He's a beast. Action Bronson. Shout out. Go watch the the Fight Feast movie. Hey, shout out, please.

It's on this YouTube channel. What up, boys in the back? What is the crack? What's up, brother? I'm coming in from Cork, Ireland, today. Shout out. I hope you guys are doing well. Hope you're having a lovely week.

I have two questions for you. One MMA-related, kind of, and one non-MMA-related. I'll start with the MMA one. Do you guys ever on the show have somebody that you kind of backed? We'll say, like, you have a lot of people that are really popular on the show in reference to that. You know, some would say Francis would be a great example and a very recent example. Obviously, Tom would be another one, but things like that and people over the years, right?

Do you ever feel like you backed the wrong horse? I'll be, like, obviously you can't name names, but, you know, but, you know, you know, Do you ever just feel like he kind of backed the wrong horse? I found that myself with Francis. For a while, I thought Francis was great. I thought Dana was lying about him. After the interview yesterday, I don't really believe that anymore. He didn't represent himself really well, and I don't know.

It just raises a lot more questions than it answered. So, yeah, have you ever had that? Second question is totally unrelated to MMA. Want to know what your favorite car is or your dream. car, right? Say money isn't an issue, right? And even if you can't drive, like, I'm a genie, you can now drive stick, you can drive whatever you want. You have a license and everything. So what is your two-car garage? That is for Rick, no bikes, that is for GC, and that it's for Frank. I want to hear your tapes on it. And yeah, shout out to you all. Shout out to everybody

in the back. Andy, can't believe you're so young. Jesus Christ, happy belated birthday, and I'm a few weeks out, but like, Jesus Christ, you are so young. Fair play. And big shout out. Was that like Ariel said, like, happy 20? Frank, you big feckin' eget. Why did you tell us about kissing your mom's house? Like, I'll never put you for that, and you should never live it down because of it. It is not. Peck in Egypt. Lots of love, boys. Um, okay, uh, have I ever backed the wrong horse? No. The only one that I can think of was, Giotontal made up. That one, in retrospect, I was like, man,

I don't enjoy watching them fight anymore. Yeah. I don't feel like, I think what's actually more common, like, honestly, like, I don't think, like, Francis and I knew, we still, like, we don't know, I've already gone on the record, like, I don't care if Francis is a good guy

or not, right? Like, I don't care about the saga of that. But more from the perspective of, like, my favorite fighter is BJ Penn, and man, like, the decline has been, and horrible. And it's more like that. It's more like we have these idols and we build them up and then sometimes they fall short

or we feel like it's gone a different direction. I think it's more of that for me than like, oh, I love this guy so much. I really wanted them to win. Ah, I picked the wrong horse. Like it's more to me like we put our athletes on a pedestal, right? We look at them as like these shining example. Like John Jones is my favorite fighter. I think he's the goat or one of my favorite fighters I think he's the goat.

And I'm like, you know, is there, is there complication to that? I mean, I think a lot of people feel like this with Connor. Connor McGregor, it's a great one. And so it's more of that. But I don't think it's like, you know, backing the wrong horse and then this, you know, they lose the race or whatever. It's, I think it's more of that. Like sometimes these, we, we, there is an element of separating the art from the

artist that is kind of required across the landscape now. And I don't even mean just like combat sports. I mean all sports, all entertainment. there's so much like that we know so much more about our athletes and our entertainers than we did in the past and so it doesn't always align with our own principles at times and so

it's a tricky thing I think in modern culture as far as the car it's a Dodge Viper always been a Dodge Viper fan Dodge Viper, shout out. A Dodge Viper. Blue with the white stripes down the middle. Let me get a like throwback

40 years or older Mercedes sick Those are like the boxy ones What's 40 years or older Just give me like a nice like 80s Like something you would see down in Miami Like a nice like 80s Mercedes

I don't want the current stuff Diesel No it doesn't have to be diesel Like a just like a roadster man It could be even older than the 80s It can be like a 50s Mercedes I always wanted a Viper Like Riper too

Yeah And I didn't know this I actually watched a video recently Where they were showing The first Viper was released to just, you know, the V-10, all of that going on. It was just an engine with a seat. Like, there were no, like, power locks.

There wasn't even windows. I'll have to send you the video. It's insane because they're, like, only if a handful of people could afford this car, it could drive it. And they were like, they don't need to be bothered with, like, finishes and fixtures. Like, they just need an engine and a seat so they can, you know. Go fast. Yeah.

But if you're going to take the Viper and it's like, hey, you can't have it, Frank. I'll take a Delorean. Oh, that's a good one. stainless steel handmade I mean I might grab like a Lambo or something

if money is not an object like some sort of crazy souped up sports car Ferrari now are you getting it for the resale or are you like

that's what I want to drive I mean it'd be pretty cool if I could just drive that thing right am I driving into work probably not

throwing a nice fit though that's too much of a flex drive it around did he say two car garage no I think just one yeah either way

actually my real dream car now is a two 2004 Accure MDX with like 215,000 miles on it. You have been talking about this for so long. It's older. I feel like you could have. Peace of my heart. I had it.

You could have this though. You can rehab this. Nah, not anymore. What's done is done. It's done. All right. Bellows, what's going on? Alex from Alabama.

What's up Alex? It's up Alex. It's up Alex. Too late to get my call plate on the air. No. No. No. question here just wanted to give a quick shout out

tough year for me much like probably a lot of other folks out here but man what a bright spot this show uncrowned and you know the whole program has been for me so quick shout out I want to thank you guys for everything you guys do keep it up appreciate you Alex so quick shout out to

few folks in the chat let's go dubbs flito shout of the dubs and sorry got DJ Serenity change to who know um um um um the queen of the chat Daniel Cooper, big shout out, big shout out.

Elijah one dream. Shout to all these people. Relatively moderated in there. Shout to Elijah one. I'm missing a couple of you guys. But I just want to wish everybody, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, Kwanza, whatever y'all got going on. Keep doing your thing, man.

Best wishes to everybody. God bless. Do you at the top. Alex, sorry you had a tough year, man. We appreciate you for listening, and I hope 2026 is much better. Shut up. Hey guys, it's Sully from Cape Cod. What's up, Sally?

I got a quick story to tell you. Bear with me. They take me a few minutes. And I've had a rough couple months. Back in October, my family went missing. Holy shit. My dad and my brother took their boat out to Noshan Island, you know, Cape Cod.

And they didn't come back. And they're supposed to be back two in the afternoon. seven o'clock in the night. I'm back yet, so I called all their phones and all their phones in straight to voice mail. So I started getting nervous and scared. And I called the Coast Guard. Coast Guard sent a boat out there to look for them. They couldn't find them. And I really couldn't think the whole night. I was awake like the whole night. And the next morning, the Coast Guard called me, so they got a hold of my brother. Their boat caught them. fire early morning and the dogs started barking woke my family up and my

brother was able to get my parents off the boat in time but he couldn't save the dogs the dogs passed and he got them ashore onto the island and he broke into a barn and he got my mom and dad in there and they were stuck out there for about a day and they sent a helicopter out there. I got him. Cape Cod Hospital and my dad was sedated because they had really bad burns to his lungs. And my mom was, I died on the way to the hospital.

And she had liver failure, kidney failure. And a few days passed, and my brother and I had to make the decision to take off late support because she wasn't going to survive. They had her in so many drugs that they were doing more bad than good. So she wasn't going to survive it. So we had to take off life support. And we played some music for her as she passed, played her favorite John Millicamp. And, yeah, I guess that's the reason I'm telling you guys this, because life is short.

And you know what some crazy shit's going to happen. And just go home and give your family a hug to your mom, your dad, your brothers, sisters, their daughters, your sons, your wife. Just giving them a hug and tell them they love them because I'm never going to get to do that again with my mom. I'll never get to see her again, hug her again. Hear or laugh again. Good, you guys, they're like my second family? End up him? Yeah, I got hung up on there.

It's totally against Cape Cod. But, yeah, my dad's okay. That's the story. My dad's okay. He's out of the hospital. He's home. My brother's okay. And we're going to make it.

We're going to be fine, but it's never going to be the same. As long as long as I'm gone. But, yeah, I just want to tell you guys that. to tell you guys that and uh and uh give a shout out to my mom and maybe go home and play like a john mallocamp's song floor or something if you feel so unkind you know because uh yeah light's short man just suck and i love you guys and uh happy holidays merry christmas and uh love you guys all right bye man sully i i am incredibly sorry to hear that um I appreciate you sharing your story

I can't be more more sorry about your mom I'm incredibly happy to hear that your your dad and brother are all right man I don't really have much else to say that other than that I'm terribly terribly sorry man that what you said is true I mean it feels like we get constant reminders

of it it feels like me and Rick have talked about it several times and in the last like six months of just like yeah life is just incredibly short and you just have no idea when when you're going to see had taken away from you. I mean, we just saw with Anthony Joshua and two of his best friends just a few weeks ago. I mean, there's endless examples. It doesn't have to be someone of celebrity status that everyone hears about. I mean, it just happens on a daily basis. So I'm terribly, terribly sorry for your loss. And I'm glad that your dad and brother were able to make it. Yeah, everything Connor just

said, thank you for sharing that story. Hopefully it can, like, hopefully it can touch people. people in the way that it touched us. Connor mentioned, you know, Anthony Joshua. We lost our good friend Abby Suban recently. Like, life is short and we have a lot of fun on this show, but there's also like time for reflection and reminders like this that like there's real things going on in the world and you have to make the most of these opportunities. The fact that you felt comfortable enough to kind of share that with us, second family

and the things you're alluding to, like I feel that way about this group here, right? I feel that way about the people that we get to work with every single day. I feel the same way about this opportunity. I feel the same way about my family. I feel the same way about the people that allow us to provide content for them every single day. Like, we are very fortunate and very lucky, and I'm sorry that you're going through this. I'm glad it sounds like you were able to kind of send her off in the way that you wanted to and celebrate her and play the Mellencamp songs and get together as a family.

And as Connor said, I'm glad that the rest of your family was able to make it out. Shout out to your brother, who's a legend, who's a gangster, who was able to, in the most trying times, like, figure out a way to get that done. And, yeah, thinking of you. And, again, like, appreciate the vulnerability there. Hopefully it can help some other people. Maybe they're going through something as well. And they can feel like, hey, you know, I'm not alone out there. Yeah, really appreciate you, Sully.

I'll play some Mellencamp on the way home for her. Much respect. That's actually all of the voice films. Amazing. all right well again thank you for the call from everyone and uh and sully to end with it frank we got any super chats brother we sure do who had a better chance of winning a third bill ilia or alex it has to be illy right also i couldn't control my laughter when ariel said your father's nutsack awani botched the crack of the year intro

so if you're just listening on on audio that was aerial Your father's nutsack, Halwani, has his nickname. And yes, I was dying in the back as well. I, like, in my head. Me and Rick are trying to stay, like, still like, I had, like, a bit of a grin on, but, like, him being like, okay, all right, Bezzi. Take it away. Crack in the year.

Yeah, that was ridiculous. I was dying. Who has the better chance of getting a triple belt? Yeah, you have to think that it's Ilya just because of his knockout power and like the jump is from 155 to 170 but man he's going to be pretty outsized up there but like man the matchups are not great for Pereira at 265 in terms of championship

like if it's John Jones or if it's Tom Aspenovone is going to be too big a disadvantage Yeah I mean an Aspenol's come out and said like if I fight Alex Pereira I will sprint across the octagon and double leg him if I'm being totally honest that neither of them have a great chance I think they would both be pretty massive underdogs but underdogs win man

I'll go with Ilya I'll go Alex just from the perspective that I think I'llia is capped out in terms of where he's going to have advantages from a physical perspective like I've always thought Islam even at 155 was going to be too big

for Ilya let alone the fact that he's bulking up to 170 Ilya is just not a big enough man I think to compete at 170 in the same way that power is an equalizer but as you go up in weight classes it gets harder and harder to carry it Whereas with Alex, I know at heavyweight

he's going to still be game in that fight But man, you do have to imagine If Tom or John Like see him across, they've got to be licking their chops At the opportunity to take him down Just like the sheer size of like Tom Aspinall weighing in at like 260 And Alex coming in in like 235 There's also part of me that's just like

I'm done down in Ilya Like if he says he's going to do something Yeah, I agree with you on the Alex thing But like we have seen Alex lose before Ilya, we have not. Yeah. Yeah. Ilya has done the things that we've thought were impossible, and he continues to do it.

Would love, would love to see either of them get a shot, though. Yeah. I think Alex, but only because I think sometimes being lighter at heavyweights in advantage, but as you said, it's tough sledding for both guys. Like that is the next step of greatness in MMA is to become the three division UFC champions. Someone will get it eventually. Hopefully I get to see it happen. Is Islam?

Even in the conversation. Can he be a middleweight? It feels hard. I don't know. I don't know. But is he any more outclassed in terms of the physicality than Ilya would be at 170? Like it's, it's. Yeah.

But man. The wrestling is going to be. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just more likely to be a 205 or than a 170 these days. Yeah. It's tough. Yeah.

I hope we do see someone go for it soon. If Hamzot had gotten the belt at 170, I would have thought for sure he'd be the number one best option to do it at a 205 because he has the 185. But he never got that 70 belt. And lastly, there's no going back now. You guys got to book the stay at the Muckleshoot

to the UFC Seattle. I feel like we got to. Yeah, you'll think I'm fucking around. I'm down. When is it March 28th or something? Are we doing Muckleshoot? I love how, like, there's these incredible destinations that they go to, and then we end up in fucking Des Mochle Sheet Resort. I know, but you have to admit, the muckle chute look fucking incredible.

Saturday, March 28th. It won every award for, like, best casino, best stay, best view, best everything. Also, not for nothing. I think that's my, not for nothing, I think that's my first Not for Nothing of the year. Now we've got three in. I've always wanted to go to Seattle The sex I've never been to the Pacific Northwest either Yeah we can leave the sex in

Yeah I've never been I would love to go Damn I feel like we gotta Stay a couple nights in Seattle I mean stay a couple nights Do we go muckleshoe front end or back end Front end

Because we do Boys in the Back From muckleshoot from Muckelshoot on that Thursday Ken, is there enough time for us to plan to make this reality? Brother, we plan in Miami in like six days. We have two and a half full months.

We just do uncrowned retreat at the Muckleshoot Casino Resort. I mean, now we're talking. Drake, Drake Riggs is up in the Pacific Northwest. We got to contact him. Maybe he can help us out. Drake Riggs lives in Seattle? Yeah, he might be Seattle. I know he's in the Pacific Northwest. He might be Portland. Yeah, he's in one of the

Who is to check? Northwest. Who is to check? Yere Roshka is. He is the number one check fighter. I'm convincing you don't need to convince me. I'm there. Muckles shoes.

We have to figure this out. Wednesday night, Thursday night. Seattle, Friday night, Saturday night, home Sunday. Oh, man. I really want to go to Pacific Northwest. Yeah, I would love to go to the Pacific Northwest. Also, not for nothing. Renting a car and driving out.

To Muckleshoot would probably be sick. We have to, the way this happens, the way this actually becomes reality is we need some kind of buy-in from Muckleshoot. We need some kind of like somebody who watches the show or is aware from Muckleshoot is like, yo, I got you, we got this, we'll take care of this, and that's how this will get done. Otherwise, I feel like it's probably going to die on the vine. Go to a Mariners game while you're at it. I don't know if they'll be in season yet. We'll figure it out. You go to a cracking game.

I really want to go to muckle shoot. You said that's everything, Frank? That is everything. I'm seeing one more here, 1399 Canadian. To the A.H crew, I'm putting down my cat this weekend and had to say the show carried me this week in many tough times in my life. Thank you for putting smiles on many faces day and day out, big love. That is from Chris underscore P underscore Bacons.

I am very sorry to hear that you have to do that, man. I know that's not easy. Hang in there. Hang in there and just keep going. Appreciate the love, man. back to you and we appreciate the super chat hopefully your your weekend gets better and and your month uh from here i just love that everybody's so like they this feels like a community you know i love it and i love that and i love that people are sharing these types of things

hopefully healing hopefully getting rid of some of those that pain and and and healing on the other side of it and uh yeah love to all you guys um especially anybody who's going through it right now But yeah, we love you guys as much as you love this show. So thank you for everybody who tunes it. Yeah, not to make light of it, but Max Rapkin in the chat does point out, Krisby Bacon. That's the name. What?

What's the name? I said Chris underscore P. Oh, Krispy Bacon. All right, so Malteshoot in March? It feels like we got it. You're like we got to. All right. That's going to do it for us on the very first episode of the Boys in the Back in

26. The first annual backies are in the books. congratulations to all the winners. Check your emails and your Coinbase wallets for your NFTs. They should arrive at some point tonight.

What's right? What am I doing on Saturday? Watch an RIF. One big happy family. What the fuck just happened here? Someone's super chatted to tell you to... Yeah, no, I know. It's Achilles Jr.

It's my rival from MMA fighting. Shout out. All right. Appreciate y'all watching. Big 2026 ahead. First of many. Muckle shoot. March.

Yeah, the muckle shoo. Goose!