The Ariel Helwani Show - Jon Jones vs. Alex Pereira: Biggest fight in UFC history? Charles Oliveira's new nickname, UFC Rio preview | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

The Boys in the Back start the show with some news and notes, including Malcolm Wellmaker's next assignment (02:19), Justin Tafa stepping away (03:31), Carl Froch teasing a return (05:01), and Alex Pereira returning to Brazil and the tire shop where he worked (07:21).Next, The Boys discuss Pereira's call to fight Jon Jones on the UFC's White House card and the impact it would have at both heavyweight and light heavyweight (14:37).After breaking down UFC Rio (36:53), they make picks (1:08:17) and rank their P4P New York City boroughs (1:17:07), inspired by Charles Oliveira's nickname "Do Bronxs."The show wraps as it always does, with The Boys listening to your voicemails (1:38:55) and answering your Super Chats (2:47:41).

But boys in the back Boys, Boys, Boys, Boys, Boys, Boys. What is good! We are back with another edition of Boys in the Back this time, October 9th, 10-9. MMA scoring day, official judging day, but most importantly, happy Lee-Ferrickson Day to all those who celebrate out there, October 9th here in the States. I am one-third of the boys in the back. Connor Brooks, join alongside me, as always. Leaf Erickson himself, Mr. New York, Rick.

Are you a big Leaf Erickson guy? Nah, I'm a SpongeBob fan growing up. Okay. Wakes up. Happy Leaf Erickson Day, the ying-dingy-Dirgin or whatever he says on the show. But it's October 9th. Okay.

So yeah, it's an honor to be able to do a show on Leaf Erickson Day. Frankie, how we doing back there, brother? So glad that you asked. We had a really good Cobb salad for lunch. I'm also appreciating the fact. Well, you know, there was a couple of variations done to the traditional Cobb salad. recipe but they were all good like instead of turkey they used chicken so it's still poultry the salad dressing was not ranch was a little disappointing but overall i'd say i'd give it like

an eight out of ten i thank you for asking this is the part in the show where raven tunes out right here right shout out to raven if he's watching if he decided to tune in yes we are uh not hawani uh so i asked him actually as he was leaving like yeah um what are the chances of you watching the show and he was like never more and then he hung up well if he's is listening or watching. Stick around. We think it's going to be an entertaining show. I guarantee it's going to be an entertaining show. We've got to talk about UFC Rio.

We've got to talk about the potential of Alex Parra Fighting John Jones. We got some news and notes to react to an all-time pound-for-pound coming your way. Voicemails, super chats. Our voicemail. Volume. Filterer. Yeah. The man who goes through the voicemails has promised me that it's going to be a great day on the voicemail.

So I'm looking forward to that. Let's start with some news and notes. And right off the top, one of our own, one of our very own, an official boy in the back, got some news this morning. Malcolm Wellmaker will be fighting just up the road. You can almost see it through the window there. Madison Square Garden, Malcolm Wellmaker will be taken on Sir Hay City. I believe that's going to be his third UFC fight in like the last six months of the year, man. He's staying active. I think he did April or maybe it was May, June, and now November. So staying active, looking to go 3-0 in 2025

after a massive debut on Contender Series last August. Nothing against Surrey City, but you know who we're supporting there. Yeah, and stylistically, you do have to think that the power is going to be the difference here for Malcolm, but a good name, a good opponent, a good litmus test for where you're at in your career. Good venue to be on, I mean, a fantastic platform. You win this one, and it starts to be like,

okay, like we can put the wind in the sales of Malcolm Wellmaker. Especially if he does an emphatic fashion like he has in his first two fights. I mean, he's got the knockout power. He's got the style, right? He's got a hell of a look. He's got an incredible smile.

He can speak. He can do promos, even for local lawyers and the other sponsors that he has. He's got it all. And he's got a great story, the welder business that we spoke to him about

when he was a guest on Boys in the Back. He's the complete package. if he can continue to ascend in the way that he should. Still got the O as well. I'm defeated. Some other news we saw around the world of MMA, Justin Tafa stepping away from the game for a little bit. Says he doesn't know if he'll be back,

but if we do see him back, we will see the best version to date of Justin Tava. It kind of feels like Justin Jr., it's kind of win-loss, win-loss, pulling out. It feels like it's not full steam ahead for the Taffa brothers right now. Yeah, and we've seen other fighters do this before, right, where it's like, I just need to take some time away from the game and kind of reset myself, center myself, sometimes even just heal up, right?

Like sometimes the aggressive schedule of like, I'm training for a fight, I'm getting injured, can't make it to that fight, I get a new fight booked, I'm training, I'm injured, I can't make it, I do fight, I get injured in that fight. Sometimes you just need this time off to kind of reset yourself, whether it be physical, whether it be mental. And so whatever Justin decided and why he decided to step away, best of luck to him. And I hope we do see him back because, as you said, it's been up and down. but it's never been boring when Justin Taffa steps in the cage.

He is trying to hurt people, and if he can't, he's going to get hurt himself. He's a killer-be-kill-type fighter, and that's what the UFC needs. And at heavyweight especially, those guys tend to thrive. So hopefully we see him back, but if we don't, you know, had an admirable run as a UFC heavyweight. Also, to your point, UFC heavyweight. He's only 31 years old, so he has a long runway ahead of him to continue to fight at the UFC level. And Lord knows, they got an Australia card with his name written on it. I mean, he is just like, go ahead and pencil in the Toffer Brothers anytime the UFC goes to Australia, which seems to be more and more frequently.

As of late, not in the world of MMA, but in the world of boxing, a return being teased by one Carl Farage. The cobra? The cobra, baby. You and I know him. Sold out 80,000 at Wembley? Yeah, sure did. The last dance with an eyes emoji as he gets his gloves laced up. So impactful.

It's liked by Adiola Depot already. Good to see you. Shout to Adela Depot. Shout to Carl Frotch. Who could it be against? I don't know. Jake Paul are going to have the cobra come and iron him out? Are we finally having it?

Is that finally happening? I forgot there was a moment in time this year where I was tuning into every Carl Frotch video. The way that he referred to ironing out everyone was fantastic. The ironing out Jake Paul is one of my favorites. Do you need the cobra to come iron you out? I will say, you know, all jokes aside, It could be interesting depending on who the opponent is.

Actual all jokes aside, Darren Till, Carl Frotch. That's what I want to say. I would watch that 100%. It would sell. The trash talk would be amazing. The banter would be fantastic. And, like, you know, obviously Carl Frotch wildly skilled at boxing. It would be a good fight for Darren Till.

It would be a very good litmus test of where Darren Till is at in this boxing. Absolutely. It's one of those fights where, like, I'm comparing it to Mike Tyson and Jake Paul, but please, like, understand where I'm coming from. the only reason it could be made is because Carl Frotch is much older if this was happening in their primes there's no doubt in my mind Carl Frotch blows the doors

off Darren Till. The fact that he is older and retired and coming out of retirement to then face Darren Till is what evens the playing field is what makes us a compelling fight and so I'm interested in a potential fight between the two. We are just speculating that is not something that we're hearing that is not something that we're

reporting but I think that would be a fantastic fight if that ends up being the opponent. Yeah I mean Darren Till just 32 years old, Carl Frasch, 48. So a massive age difference, but obviously at their peaks, a massive skill difference in the sport of boxing. So let's see. Let's see what the Cobra's got for us heading into 2026, one last dance. Some other stuff that's hit the timeline. I'm picturing Carl Frotch winning an Ariel in the ring with him, like with the microphone. This fits card? Yeah, why not? I mean, I'm down. I'm down. Whoever will pay the money is,

that's pretty much all that matters. Sorry. Alex Pereira Yes Returns to Brazil After winning the belt back This past Saturday Against Magamata Anka Lyev And went to a gym

A school It's something in Brazil With a lot of kids at it And they were hyped To see Alex Pereira return Take a look at it I believe it might be his gym Right?

Yeah Because or me I'm not actually 100% sure We'd have to look into it But I know he did just When he came on the show with Ariel He announced that charity that he was doing They start chanting

And then he says Wait wait wait wait wait stop everyone He says, how about Shama? The pop from Shama is just insane, man. And they all scream Shama as well. Like, this is superstar level stuff right here. Not only is it superstar level stuff, but it's just like, one of the things that's so fantastic about Alex is he just doesn't forget his roots. Like he knows where he's from.

He continues to come back. He pays homage to his people. Not even just like going back to Brazil, but like the indigenous roots in Brazil as well. he is all about like his his history his family's history his country's history he's a very connected grounded type of guy it makes him very easy to root for in addition to just the fighting style and you love to see that you said speaking of the the roots yeah we also got another video that he posted uh in the last couple of days of him returning to the tire shop that he used to work at here's here's that video hello everyone as promised i said after the fight

I was going to come back to the tire shop. Anka Lave was right. We are here today. Giving presents, as always. Every time I come to Brazil, I come to the tire shop. This is right here, everyone. Right here is where it all started. This is the place that was a very beautiful story.

Shama. And if you can't tell, in the back, there is a giant tire that it says, I think it says UFC Anka Lave Poetan. Yeah. It says Anka Lave on it, though. I don't know if they wrote that afterwards. beforehand. I don't know what that is, but they got Uncle I have written on a tire, which is

pretty tremendous. And we're seeing the boot on Alex there. Yeah, talking about the injury that he had going into it. I mean, just incredible to see this guy, A, the performance he put on on Saturday night, and B, to return home and just get this love and admiration of a superstar. It's incredible whenever you see these guys from these other countries when they go home and they get this appreciation. Yeah, I, speaking of that tire shop, I, I worked for a long time for a PR agency. Shout out Jack Taylor, shout out John Beer. Keep my fucking name out your mouth. No, I think they would appreciate the shout out. And one of our clients was glory kickboxing. So I did PR work for glory kickboxing. And Alex was one of the fighters. And so was Israel and one of the, you know,

the names that I would continue to try to work with media outlets to give attention to. I didn't know much of Alex's story then, but John O'Regan, shout out to John O'Regan, one of the true OGs of this combat sports media space, did a story about Alex and that tire shop and his battles with alcoholism, which we've now, like, heard a lot of people have seen that story come out, but he did the first article I can remember on it, whether I don't remember of us for gory kickboxing.com or for bloody elbow because he did both duties at that time. But man, the life path that Alex Peri could have been on, like he was just wasting away at a tire shop, drinking himself to death, and just decided to get into kickboxing. Then, you know, from there, kind of ho-hum, like,

as I said before, like, when Izzy and Alex were both in glory, like, Izzy was, like, a little bit better fighting for the championship. Once Izzy left and became a star USC fighter, Alex actually ascended. Alex actually became, like, incredibly good in kickboxing, beating Artem Vakitav, who is one of the top ever. And so, Um, the path that the journey from tire shop to now in the UFC as reclaimed, uh, light heavyweight champion talks of going up to heavyweight champion is absolutely insane. This guy was on the verge of just being absolutely nothing and like wasting a life. And now he's living this incredible life and coming back and, and opening a charity to mentor children and make sure they don't go down that path. It's, it's a beautiful story that one day should probably be a movie. movie documentary anything does any sport compared to mima create like by sheer volume the amount of like unbelievable stories like mama does from the rags to riches perspective probably boxing

and mma those are probably the two top because combat sports is such a is such a like you start in the gym somebody gives you an opportunity but you really don't have anything and you kind of just show up one day and then you eventually make it not not everybody right there's lots of people who are now like training MMA who have money and can afford to take these classes and this but the early stories of boxing the early stories of the MMA are like hard luck you show up in the gym and all of a sudden you can make something of yourself and now you're headlining MSG I can't quite think of another sport

that does it quite like that maybe maybe maybe football maybe soccer like there's a there's a you know some guys who are just kicking around a ball in these impoverished areas and all of a sudden are making mega contracts yeah how of a sudden they're playing it you know yeah the Eddie odd in front of 120,000 people. The Burn of Bayou. Yeah. It truly is incredible, though.

I mean, it's inspirational stuff. Him and Marop, the two champions from Saturday night, just like incredibly inspirational dudes. You mentioned that he could be moving up to heavyweight now and going on to maybe fighting John Jones, maybe trying to become a triple champion, a champion in three different weight classes. Do you think, with your heart of hearts, that the next fight for Alex Breyer is against John Jones?

Yes. I do. Because I don't think either Carlos Oberg or a rematch with Yuri is a more attractive option, right? If you're Alex Pereiro, why not wait to see if that resolves? If John Jones is serious about coming back and, you know, I think we should start with. We obviously have to see what John Jones's demeanor and position is after the passing of his brother, right? We know nothing at this point about where John Jones is at mentally. We know nothing about like how he's been impacted by this. He put out a social media post. just to let people know where the services are and things like that, but we have not really heard from John Jones on this. And I don't expect we will. He tends to be more of a private person unless he's got his Twitter fingers going. And so the next time we hear from John Jones, maybe we'll get a better sense of that. It's all caveated by that, right? We don't really know where John Jones's head is at. If John Jones is mentally okay after the passing of his brother and says, no, this is actually motivation for me. I want to fight on the White House card

because this is a once-in-a-lifetime experience and I know life is too short. I need to be on that card. I am fairly confident that the UFC would be interested in booking Alex Pereira versus John Jones, despite what Dana White kind of said after the fight. I also think because of what you mentioned,

the Ulberg or the Yearie 3 doesn't really intrigue him that much, I also think it's perfect spot for the UFC to be like, well, we have a vacant light heavyweight title fight waiting to happen. There's really nothing, no other option. There's no one else it could be. Like, if he leaves and goes to heavyweight, it's obvious, it should be Yuri versus Olberg, so the UFC would be okay with

it while they get to make a monster mega fight between John Jones and Alex Pereira. Not only that, but I think it helps Yeri and it helps Carlos. Either of those guys is going to be a massive underdog heading into a fight with Alex Pereira, right? Alex Pereira was in the basement. After the Magamette loss, he was a what

230 underdog? What did you say? Yeah, plus 230 is what I said. Plus 230? He will not be a plus 230 underdog to Carlos Oldberg or Yuri Prohaska. He will be a big favorite. He would be a favorite for sure over Oldberg and then it would be impossible to not make him a sizable favorite over Yeri when he's already got the two finish wins banked. Yeah, his aura is back. The support, the public feeling on him is back. He has a limit. He did a good job of showing people that he was at 40% right. Because sometimes guys say that and then they show up and their performance is the same. He put that storyline out there and he had to deliver on that and he did deliver on that. He showed what the best version of Alex Pere can look like. Unfortunately, Magamad was compromised and I don't see people throw it. him the same bail, which is kind of interesting.

Like, he was also hurt in this fight and nobody seems to give a shit. They only cared when it was Alex. What is interesting about that, too? Like, Alex was just going off of like, yeah, it was 40% man. I wasn't doing that well. Uncle I have, there's like literal video of him getting like his ribs stapled up. So, yeah, I mean, you do give him the grace, but like, unfortunately, like he did go into the fight knowing that he had broken ribs.

Absolutely. That was a choice that he had to make. And I don't think he'll get the rematch, unfortunately, for him. This is a sport based on star power. A lot of that has to do with with the match. that end up getting made. And just because of the massive difference in Star Power, I don't think he'll get it.

And also the fact that he never had any defenses as well. And so the point I was getting to with the Carlos and Yeri thing is, I think it helps the division. There's not a lot for Alex to do at Light Heavyweight anymore, right? You could fight Carlos, who's one of the only names left that you haven't fought. But then what? A rematch with Yiri, a rematch with Magamad. Like, how many times are we going to go around this dance?

How many times are we going to do this? the biggest fights for Alex Pereira as far as a UFC property go are always going to be at heavyweight now right because he's been there and done that for light heavyweight and quite frankly outside of Yuri there's not really anybody who gets people excited right there's not really anybody in that division that that starts to generate the buzz in the way that year he does Carlos Oldberg included in that man yeah like I know he just headlined a card in Perth and he got a massive knockout and he's on this long wind streak and now he's nine and one in the UFC and he's you know he's got the look and everything but like he doesn't get people like to turn in he does He does not have that star power yet. But if he goes out there and gets a huge win over somebody like Yeri, you can start to build on that, right? And so I think it's a perfect matchup. Yeri versus Carlos to get that belt. And then Amagameda versus Yeri fight. Amagamad versus Carlos fight.

Those are now very compelling and very interesting for the light heavyweight division. You move on from the era of Alex Pereira and you allow him to go up to heavyweight where his biggest fights lay ahead. A fight with Tom Aspinall, a fight with John Jones. Hell, even a fight with like a Alex Pereira versus Derek Lewis, for example, would be an absolutely stupid and hilariously exciting fight that everybody would tune in for. So there are so many things that you could potentially do with Alex Pereira at Heavyweight that I think it instantaneously becomes a lot more compelling. Now, granted, the drop off between Tom, John, and like a Derek Lewis or anybody else

that you can match them up against is massive. Those are the two. But I just think there's so many fresh opportunities that can make a lot of sense for Alex Pereira. As far as the John Jones side of it, if you're John Jones, like you've been saying all along, you want a big fight. Respect to Tom Aspinall, this is a bigger fight.

And I said this last year when everybody disagreed with me. When everybody was saying Tom versus John was the biggest fight that the UFC can make, I always raised my hand and said, Alex versus John is actually the biggest fight the UFC can make. I stand by that today. I think the momentum is heading in that direction again today. And I think that that potentially, as the YouTube thumbmail, shout out to our graphic designer Ovin, says, could be the biggest fight in UFC history depending on what you're measuring, right? The gold standard, the number one mark right now is obviously Connor versus Habib.

It sold the most pay-per-views. It created the most buzz. It generated the most attention. It's a rivalry that has stood the test of time. It is a rivalry that still goes on to this day. Connor McGregor definitely still wants that one back, Habib less so, because he got the job. job done the first time. To me, the number of eyeballs that are going to be on the fight between potentially Alex Pereira and John Jones is the type of thing that should motivate Alex Pereira,

John Jones, the UFC, and everybody involved to try to make it happen. And it could potentially be the most watched MMA fight of all time. Man, headlining UFC White House, Alex Pereira, John Jones, you say if you had to put a yes or no on it, bigger than McGregor Khabib? It depends on what the measurement is, right? Will it ultimately generate more business and be as... Here's what I'll say. I don't think it will be as important. Connor versus Habib was one of the most important fights across any combat sport.

It was definitely the most important fight in UFC history. It was the culmination of everything that they had built. We put on the biggest spectacle and drew this pay-per-view number. It was... The importance of it cannot be underestimated. It was extremely important at that time. The UFC is in a much different place now. They don't need John versus Alex the way they needed Habib versus Connor to take that next

elevation, to be able to be getting $1.1 billion per year. They needed Connor McGregor and they needed Habib to get there. If they don't put on John versus Alex, I don't think they will be losing a step. I don't think they will be elevating that same way. But I do believe if they do put on John versus Alex, the number of eyeballs, the sheer eyeballs that are going to be on that and having the goat of your sport in it versus a guy that has in the last couple of years become an absolute legend already, is going to have a massive impact on the culture. Yeah.

I just like, it's just hard to wrap my head around the idea of a fight being bigger than Connor versus Habib, especially when it doesn't involve Connor McGregor again. But man, I guess like this would be like a close second to what you could do other than having Connor McGregor in it. The number of eyeballs is going to be 10x. Right. Whenever I talk about the White House card, it's always just like they need a fight that's going to match that stature that's going to like casual fans or.

going to recognize. And like, John Jones is a name that fans will recognize, especially going against the guy like Alex Pereira, plus the storyline that you can create with Alex Pereira going up to heavyweight. Oh, could this be him if he gets through John Jones? He could be trying to chase a triple championship and create history there. It obviously is riding a lot on it being the White House. It's just mad. The comparison, it's just tough to compare the two. Yeah, as I said, you will never get convinced me that the importance of that fight will surpass it. I just just don't think the UFC needs these things like that, like they needed big fights back in that day when they needed Connor McGregor and Ronda Rousey to elevate them, when they needed

them to get them to the next level. The UFC is a machine that cannot be stopped and they don't need them like that anymore. But just sheer numbers wise, just sheer metrics wise, the viewership for this White House card is going to be astronomical. It's going to be mind blowing. It's going to be mainstream sports level. And we have not seen that for MMA. We have not seen that in a long time. There were fights on network TV during the ESPN era. They were on ABC and they were kind of just ho-hum fights. They never really committed to it. It was not paper

views. They were all fight nights. The only one I believe that was of pay-per-view quality was UFC 267 where they did the Abu Dhabi card, Jan versus Glover. Yeah, and they only did that because did they lose the main event? There was a reason. There was a short notice change for some reason or another and they did that

or maybe it was the timing of the event. Yeah, I think it was like the timing of the event or something like that or maybe they were just doing a favor for ABC. But was the only pay-per-view one they did everything else was fight nights yeah and and and in the previous era on fox they did some broadcast ones in fact the debut on fox was a heavyweight title fight between junior jos and camp belasquez which was had major viewership in a previous era uh kimbo slice used to fight on on cbs and so there are there is precedent for network television but the scale and magnitude of this event is going to surpass that by leaps and bounds and so again metrics wise

I think this is going to be insane. The social media impressions. I was just going to say. The social media impressions, the YouTube era that we live in now, it potentially being on CBS, just the audience that you're going to bring in because the fight is taking place at the White House, and you do have two massive names to go with it.

Like, it's not like we're talking about, like, and no offense either of these fighters, but it's like, it's not like Alexander Volcanowski versus Lorone Murphy. Like, it's like John Jones versus Alex Breyer, are two of your biggest stars with an intriguing storyline behind it? Yeah, I guess it could potentially do it.

And Alex is a modern fighter. That's the other key, right? It's not like Alex is like a name that it's like, oh, he's the old guard, he's the established guy, we hope you know his name. He's in the last four years put on the type of run that everybody knows his name because of what he's been able to do.

And it's insane. Also, the look, the highlight reel, the painting, the arrow. It's pretty easy to sell if you don't know who he is. Here's a 10-minute video on Alex Pereira and why you should be intrigued by his story. Like, you can sell that easily. And on the John Jones side of it, it's the goat.

Yeah. He's facing the goat. It's quite simple. Yeah, I can see the promos now running on CBS during the Masters in April. And it's just like, don't forget, just a couple months away, UFC White House. And it's John Jones and Alex Pereira in the middle of a golf broadcast or something like that. It makes too much sense. It makes too much sense.

And imagine for Alex Pereira. Say that's his next fight. Let's just say this all happens. And he's fighting John Jones next at UFC White House. You would imagine that would have to be the headliner. They're not going to do that with the Connor McGregor fight on it. I agree. If that's the case, and he's headlining that, he'll have headlined the White House.

Oh, my God. International Fight Week, UFC 300, MSG twice. It'll be his 13th UFC fight, and he'll have headlined for the ninth time. All of the other ones being pay-per-views in the pay-view era. Like, he has a chance. Where he was probably on the main card. Yeah, yeah. On the main card or on a pay-per-view.

I think he's only fought on one fight night. There you go. I think it was the Bruno Silva fight at the apex. Like super random fight early on. And it's just like, damn, you'll have Alex Breyer in the apex. Like, he has a potential. Say his 13th UFC fight against John Joan. He wins that.

And then he fights for the heavyweight title. And then wins that. Let's just say, we're living in a hypothetical war. So when's that and then just defends it one more time, 15-fight UFC career, like, all-time, goat shit, triple champ, international fight week 300, MSG, White House, like, the resume that this guy could build in less than 15 fights. And, like, at that point, it'll have been four years, five years in the organization is, like, impossible to wrap your head around. Two things are crazy about that. It seems impossible, but he somehow made the impossible possible possible. two things. The first is

it's not even far-fetched what you're saying right now. That's the crazy part. The craziest thing is he's got two fights and they could be his next two fights. Very realistic. He's two fights away from doing everything that I just said. Yeah. We've already done the major legwork. The fact that he made it to the UFC became champion, took out Izzy, then went up to light heavyweight. Oh, got his belt back as well. We're already 12 fights into this 14-fight resume I just listed out. Obviously, the last two, probably being the two biggest turtles would be beating the goat and going up a division to do so and then potentially beating the new age heavyweight champion.

Yeah. But the getting of those fights is within reach. This is not fantasy world. This is not like, oh, you know, and he just needs to win three more and he's going to get the title shot. He's there. He can command a John Jones fight, which he did in the cage or wanted to win the cage and then did in the post fight. because he has reached that level. The other part that's absolutely crazy about that

is sitting here today if he beats John Jones and, man, all right, I was about to say something crazy. Let me, let me... We're living in a fantasy land right now. If he beats John Jones and Tom Aspinall, he's the goat.

I don't think it's even questionable. I actually don't think that's crazy. I don't think it's... No, I was about to say if it just beat John Jones and then I was like, fuck, he really kind of needs that heavyweight title because it would really solidify it. I was about to say if he just beats John Jones,

he might be the goat. The speed run that he's on is just never, you will never touch this. I know Connor McGregor's run was magical and it should be celebrated as such. Ronda Rousey's initial run was absolutely insane. The stuff that he's been able to do in this short amount of time,

as you said, like the headline spots that he's been in every single fight has been pressure, pressure, pressure, killer, killer, killer. And it's not like he's just going out there and like hooh-humming it. He's destroying people along the, entire path. Nobody has done it quite like this.

If he beats John and Tom, he would be the goat. And I would have to actually check in where I stand if he just beats John because he would have beaten the goat, the guy that I had as the goat. Now, it's on the tail end of his career, so you start to have to weigh that. But, man. All right. Two things. If you just look at his resume, it's almost like, I think he just let Magamette beat him

the first time just so he could say that he was beating a guy who held the belt because his wins. Sean Strickland held the belt, Izzy held the belt, Yon held the belt, Yari held the belt, Yari again held the belt, Khalil, a title challenger, obviously. Anka Liev, he loses so he could give Anka Laiv's the belt. And then it's like, oh, yeah, but I also beat this former champion here. Obviously, I'm saying that in jest. I have odds for his potential three next fights.

Let's start with light heavyweight. Carlos Holberg, what do you think the odds are? Minus 400. Wow. Minus 185, Alex Pereira. Take that shit to the bank. Uri Prohashka. Okay, maybe minus 400 there?

Minus 300. Prohashka plus 250. It makes more sense. John Jones plus 1-175. John Jones minus 800 out of plus 575. That's stupid. That's stupid.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the style would definitely be very good for John Jones and favorable. for John Jones. But as we were talking about earlier, like with even the Carl Frotch, but and we're talking about now, it's not, it's not 2013 anymore. You know, that's not the John Jones he's facing. If you give me that John Jones, I'm taking John Jones against anybody. There's nobody in history who was ever better than the prime John Jones. We're out of that era. That doesn't exist anymore. So if you're telling me that Alex Pereira has a whatever, can you quickly look up what the, uh, the percentage odds on that number would be? Oh, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're telling me, that Alex Pereira has a whatever, what, can you're telling me Alex Pereira has a 5% chance of beating John Jones I just don't buy that like the insane amount of power that this guy carries he's going to be in a fight against everybody and John Jones I said it during

during the week giving him an 11% chance yeah okay I don't that there's value there's plus EV on Alex Pereira there like you can't tell me that John Jones beat Alex Perreira 90% of the time because A it's a diminished John Jones he is just older right and B John Jones is a

heavyweight who comes in, you know, two, what did he come in last time? 240 something, 2.50 something, there's a lot of fat on that body. Like, it is not like a lean, trim John Jones. The speed advantage, the hand speed, the power, the agility is all going to be on the side of Alex. So if you're telling me that Alex is not going to have some moments to potentially pressure John Jones, at a 10 fights, John Jones is winning that nine times, I'm leaning with the underdog there.

And I say that as somebody who thinks John Jones is the unequivocal goat. Nobody is in the conversation other than John for me. And I'm seeing MMA on point, a great Twitter account, great YouTube channel. They tweeted out a graphic of the odds for a future fight, and it says minus 285 plus 210. I don't know what book they're getting at, but I'm looking at a book where you can actively bet it right now, John Jones, minus 800, Alex Pereira plus 575. So maybe it opened at minus 285. That number that you said sounds a lot more realistic.

That number, okay. Yeah, they don't accredit a book or anything. I'm looking at bet online just in transparency just because they have future. odds up for for fights way, way, way in the future. Very interesting to see those odds, though.

I'm honestly a little bit surprised and I don't want to like spend all day on this, but I'm honestly a little surprised that that Carlos Oldberg line, like to me, Yuri feels a little more dangerous than Carlos in a fight with Alex.

I know he lost twice, but like if you're, if your two losses and like also like all of the year, the performance was incredible. Like obviously we know that, but like he was down two rounds to nil going into that one.

Yeah, I don't, I see Yuri as more dangerous in a fight against Alex. You have to be chaotic against Alex. You have to do something that is not just every most of the fighters who fight Alex are standing with him, right? Like when's the last time? Joe Berg obviously would. When's the last time somebody really aggressively like shot takedowns on Alex Perra? I'm not counting the Magamed fight because let's be honest it was much more clinching. It was like like half-ass takedown attempts. It's not like Magamed was like struggling to try and get takedowns, right? Yon fight? Yeah, maybe.

I mean, Yon was able to get some takedowns in a very close split decision loss and then like Izzy in the first fight was able to get takedowns. Those were a little bit reactive like nobody's really committed to like a takedown game plan. Andreas McAletas in the first round.

Yeah, and then what happened. But he got his head kneeed into the fifth row. He's mostly facing guys who are strikers and I hate to do this about breaking fucking news. Alex Perrier is a better striker than all of you. He's going to knock your head off. And I said this heading into the first Magamette fight

and then I kind of had to eat crow. But then we saw what happened in the second one. You can't stand with Alex Pereira. That's just a death sentence. You need to have an advantage. At light heavyweight, I don't see anybody who has that advantage. At heavyweight now, it becomes a lot more interesting. Last thing I want to say on this is if he does leave light heavyweight,

it kind of leaves the division in disarray. You've got Magamette Uncle I, who was just the champion as the number one contender, tied with Yuri Brohashka. They're both the number one contender, according to the UFC rankings website. And then you have Carlos Oldberg after that. Those are like the three main guys. Yeah, you can see the graphic right here. Jan Blahovich, man, coming off a loss.

Khalil Roundtree, coming off a loss. Jamal Hill, I think a three-fight losing streak now. Alexander Rackich, three-fight losing streak. Dominic Reyes, coming off a loss. Volcanoz de Merz de Merckov, coming off a loss. Osamov, obviously coming off of a win. But, like, we talk about it, like, star power, and everything like that. That's lacking with Osama Mersikanov, and he's just on the breadth of the top 10.

And then after that, it's Bogdan Gusov, Johnny Walker. Nikita Kriylao Alonzo Minifield and Zhang Mingyang. Okay, but Devil's Advocate. Sure. To me, I feel like it opens an opportunity, right? In the same way, when John Jones left, it allowed for the rise of Alex Pereira. Sure.

Jan was the next champion and then it transferred hands. Ultimately, Alex Pereira got on top and reined on top. To me, that's an opportunity for these guys. Carlos Oberg may win the belt and then may knock off the next four, five, six contenders and all of a sudden we're going,

holy shit Carlos Oberg is the light heavyweight goat he's probably definitely sorry definitely not the goat John Jones well he has a lot of work to do to catch John Jones but Carlos Oberg is a fantastic light heavyweight oh my god Carlos is five light heavyweight defense is 15 I fucked up I fucked up but you could realistically go like oh my God Carlos is a guy like he's going to be around forever in the same way that we kind of feel about Alex Pereira I think it opens more opportunities because if Alex is sitting there at the top and we have this wasteland that you're pointing you're pointing you to, it feels a lot more desolate because they can't even get there and when they get there, they're just going to get knocked out by Alex Pereira. It's kind of just like this no-win situation. Yeah, man, it's amazing to look at these, like Rockets look like a guy for a minute, three-fight losing streak.

Like I know he can obviously... He's in a close fight with Magamette. It's not like he's a trash candidate. Yeah, no, of course not. You need... He's in a very close fight with Yiri until Yeri went Yeri. Exactly. You need you need these guys to start fighting each other, and I think by Alex leaving the division, there's going to be a lot less posturing, there's going to be

lot less sitting on your record, your ranking, rather, there's going to be a lot of people looking at it as an opportunity and going, I need to fight now so that I could get into a position to get this title. So I actually think it would actually be good for Light Heavyweight because we'd start seeing some like new names coming in. We'd start seeing some momentum that we'd separate the wheat from the chaff and we'd start to like see like what's really happening here. Yeah, I think if he leaves, the obvious is Carlos and Uri and then I guess, yeah, like to your point, you just let it sort itself out from that. Magamad versus somebody. Maybe he gets back to the title if he beats them.

Even Rockets versus somebody. You can... Magamette Khalil? Yeah. Shit. Let's do it. Khalil can get back there. Magamette can get back there.

Alex is the obstacle to this because he has so many wins. Smallhill versus dogs in a racket. Let's do it. I'm in. Someone's got to end the losing streak between the two. Osmond Merzikanov, I guess you can start giving him fights. I think he's actually booked for one soon. Osamant Mirzikanov.

Isn't he undefeated as well? Is he undefated? Is he undefated? About my top ten? the professional. Oh, he's fighting Alexander Rockich in two weeks. God damn. Great fight. Is he undefeated, though? I'm fucking sitting here talking about how they don't have ones. Yeah, 15 and 0. Osama-Mirzegonov, the professional. All right, we're moving at light-heavy weight. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for sleeping on you, the professional. I didn't know ball like that.

Shout out to Osama or Zikanao. Bro. It's a good fight. UFC 321. Yeah. It's a great fight. It's a great fight. Can't wait for it. God, damn. The Raven would have known that, man. The Raven would have done that, man. Raven definitely knew. professional is fighting. He's going to call the voicemail line later and be like, you casual. You casual, fuck. All right. Going to be very interesting to see what's next for Alex Pereira. It's going to be very interesting to see what division he's fighting in, who his opponent is. It's going to be fascinating stuff to watch in 2026. Let's go to this weekend, though. His home country hosting the event this weekend, UFC Rio. Charles Oliver, obviously, getting the main

event slot. The headline, sort of the weight carrier for this card was supposed to be fighting Rafael Fazeev. He has to pull out with an injury, so we get Matejeech Gamrott, instead a much different stylistic matchup for him. This card, top three fights are amazing. Cannot wait for those. You got Davis and Figuero fighting our guy Montel Jackson and the Comain. You have Ascenti Luque fighting Joel Alvarez in the featured bout. A bit of a drop-off from there. Yeah. It's a bit of a drop-off from there. But the top three fights, I am very much looking forward to Outside the main and co-main, the only ranked fighter on the card is Walter Bacher at number 15 in heavyweight. Yeah, it's tough, as they say.

But I will say, he had the wrong drop. What's up, Frank? It's tough. There it is. Thanks, Terrence. Appreciate that, bud. I will say, like... Were you saying Bud as in Bud Crawford?

Or are you saying Bud as in Buddy? Bud as in Bud Crawford. Okay. Shout out Bud Crawford. It is tough. I feel you on that. But I don't think they need to stack it. because Charles Oliver is in the main event in Brazil.

Like, that's all that really matters. As you said, that's the attraction here, right? The attraction is Charles Olivera homecoming. Like, I'm back in re- You don't really need anything else. No. But also, they've done the thing that they do with all the local cards. There's tons of Brazilians on this card. And so the energy in the arena is going to be massive. It doesn't necessarily need stakes outside of we get to watch the Brazilian fighters succeed.

We get to see our heroes fight. And so, look, this is more of a, of a, of a, local for that crowd card than it is like the TV, like this is the can't miss TV product. But then when you get to the top three fights, like those are objectively good fights. You know, maybe this is a spoiler, but like the third

fight from the, from the top is the G.C. Bull. For this way. Are you kidding me? Like, what are we talking about here? That is the GC main event. Joel Alvarez making his debut at Walter Waite against Vicente Lucke. The guy's an absolute animal. If you've never watched them, he rips people's heads off. He's an absolute savage. We'll get to that one in a minute.

Let's start with the main event, though. Charles Olivera. Taken on Matush Gamrot, like we mentioned, supposed to be Fazeve, striker, now he gets Gamrot, much more of a grappler. We'll say, little note, 17 and 0 in Brazil for Charles Olivera through his early career. God damn, okay.

Being in the UFC as well, has fought there several times. 17 and 0, I believe I saw Danny Sigour tweeting that out in an interview with him reacting to that. So shout out to Charles Olvera in Rio. He's also coming back three,

three and a half months, three, like, call it like 14 weeks after getting brutally knocked out by Ilya, like straight flat-lined center of the octagon,

like completely buckled at his age as well, the damage that he's taken, like is that of any concern to you? No, because against Fiziv, it would be, and against Gamrod,

it's not, right? So because of Faziv's finishing capability, the power that he holds in his hands, it is a concern, but because Gamrod

is much more of a volume, grapple, scramble type guy, it doesn't concern you as much. Yeah, Gamrots' path to victory in this fight is grappling, is wrestling Charles Olivera. If he stands with Charles, I give the major advantage to Charles. As we've seen outside of the Ilya fight, like Charles can take a punch. Even when he gets dropped, he tends to find a way to kind of scramble and protect himself and find a way to win a fight. And so, yeah, I would have to imagine that stylistically, Gamarot's path to victory here

is controlling Charles Oliver and not letting him get his game off. So my concerns about, like, the brain health of Charles Olivera are not as high just based on the style. We saw at UFC 300 Charles Oliver take on Arm and Sarukian, who also typically has a grappling heavy style game plan. And the thing when Charles was on his championship run was it was just like, and we saw it with a lot of these dudes, they were sort of afraid to go to the ground with him. And then you get a guy like Islam Makashv. You get a guy like Armin Sarukin that doesn't fear that. and obviously Islam able to get the finish, Armin able to just rack up like nine minutes of control time across the fight

and win the last two rounds after losing the first one. I feel like Gamrod is probably going to attack this fight in a similar manner. I agree with you. The question is going to become, is he of that level? Is Gamrod of the level of an Islam and an Armin? My argument would be, I don't think so, because the key to Islam and Armin is that they also offer you something else. Right. The key to Islam and Armin is that they're also going to be dangerous to you in the clinch.

They're also going to be dangerous to you on the feet. I don't think Gamrot poses those exact same problems. I think Gamrod's a fantastic grappler. Certainly grappling-wise on the level of those other two guys, but he doesn't pose the other problems in the different phases of MMA that those guys do. So it makes it easier for Charles to kind of like navigate that math, right? He has to protect himself in the grappling, but he also has opportunities to do things in the striking that he might not against a guy as good as a Samakachev or a guy. as good as Armand Sarukyan, who I do have a level above Gamrod. Granted, Gamrod and Armin. Had they had won over him. In a great fight.

But I- Also three and a half years ago. Yeah, I favor Armin now. This version of Armin, I think, is far superior to that version. And I have him as the number one contender outright. Like, I think Armin is number two. I was going to say behind Islam, Islam's not in the division anymore. He might be the best lightweight. Ilya Tuporia certainly can make that claim as well.

I would like to see that fight one day down the road. But either way, I think Armin is fantastic. And I have him above Gamrod at the moment. But that grappling style is hard to deal with. And Charles Lavera is not best off his back, right? He has submissions and he has been able to find them. But his best attacks are going to be when he's in the scramble or when he's flowing with the jujitsu or he's on top and he's able to find something.

It's not necessarily when he's being controlled like we saw in the Armin Sarukian fight, where Armin was controlling where that fight was playing out and keeping himself safe. So it will be interesting for me to see if Gamrott can implement that. But my fear from the Gamrot side is, I don't have a fear that Gamrod will try to do this, nor do I have a fear that he will have some success. My fear is that in the other phases, when it's not on the mat, Charles is going to have opportunities. Okay, so I actually think in the striking, Charles Olivera has an advantage here. I agree. I think that the power that he has, just the volume that he can put up, the advantages that he can, the things that he can take

advantage of in the striking to also work into his grappling. I actually, I like Charles Delivera's chances on the feet. Now, I am with you. If Gamrod's able to get these takedowns, we could see something happen with the guys that you mentioned earlier, Islam, and Armin. But Gamrod isn't like the biggest lay in prayer. He'll get a ton of takedowns and like, he'll have like the RDA fight. He got a bunch of takedowns, but like wasn't really like racking up a ton of control time throughout the fight. And if there's scrambles, that gives credence to Charles Olivera and gives him an opportunity to potentially get the back in, like, where he thrives, where he shines is when he's able to get you, get on your back on the ground, and that's where he gets the submissions. In the Armin fight,

in the Dan Hooker fight, Gamrod is not like a control the entire round and just lay on top guy. He has these moments where he gives a position and people are able to scramble with him. And as I said, like, there's the wrestling phase. There's the, there's the Gamrod on top wrestling phase where I think he is going to be winning that position and dominating. But in the striking phase, it's Charles for me. In the scrambling phase, it's Charles for me. And so I ultimately feel like there's going to be moments where Charles is going to have an opportunity, while I also feel like Gamrod's path to victory is more straightforward. Gamrod, knocked down by Arman Sarugian. Yep. Knockdown by Van Neal Darius. Yeah. Knockdown bad by Van Neal Daryush.

Knocked down by Jalen Turner, knocked down by RDA. Yeah. All of those guys are at a level that I feel Charles Oliver can join that club. Now, Mateus Camrod has never been finished before, I will say that. Do you have how many people have knocked down Charles? Because it's happened quite a bit. That's a good question. Chandler knocked him down.

I think Poria knocked him down. Like he's kind of also in the same boat. Boria knocked him down. He did knock down Vanilla Darius. Obviously, that was a fantastic knockout by him. Islam knocked him down, Gaichi knocked him down, Porre knocked him down.

But of the strikers that I'm listing off, they're a much higher level than the ones that got knocked down by Gamron. This to me feels like a close fight. Oh, it's a very close fight. That's where I am at. There are many things that come into it that makes me feel very not confident

in who I'm picking in it. I'm ultimately going to go with Charles Oliver, the fact that it's in Rio, I like the striking advantage, but the fact that he's coming back like 14 weeks after getting starched by Iliot to Poria, does somewhat concern me. Does it concern you less

because it's Gamrod or not at all? I guess it concerns me less but not like not a ton. Okay. I mean, you talk about how many times he's gotten knocked down as well. Like he has accumulated damage and like Gamrod, you know, like if he gets going,

potentially, I mean, I guess like the Scott Holtsman one is like really the only one where he's like on the feet. Stop, though. Yeah, I guess it's like really just going to be a wrestling path. And then like in the scrambles,

I like Charles Lover there, but like it is just a bit of an unknown coming off of a loss. like that to Ilya the crowd scrambles, striking, I'll give it to Charles

so like I'm going to pick Charles in the end but it won't shock me if Cameron is able to pull it off I'm going the same way we'll know

how this fight's going to go in the first round in my opinion if Charles does get taken down in the first round and his game plan excuse me

let me drink some water I actually think that the five rounds is beneficial to Charles just because he's so dangerous throughout the fight probably because as we said, we think he's going to get opportunities.

But I think we'll know in the first round because I say that. Because if Gamrod is grappling with Charles and Charles is focused on playing Jiu-Jitsu rather than getting up, it's going to go Gammot's way, in my opinion. If Charles is focused on scrambling and getting up, I'm very confident that Charles is going to be able to find something over the course of those five rounds. So if he's just comfortable to lay there and kind of try to play Jiu-Jitsu and try to lock up a submission and ultimately he's not having success, I could see that playing out for five rounds, no problem. Like that's Gamrod's game. He's going to be fine in my opinion. If Charles is active

in the in the sweeps, in the reversals, in the trying to force a scramble position and then getting up and then trying to hurt Gamrod on the break from those positions, I think it's going to be big trouble for Gamrod. So that's what I would like to see from Charles early is like if Gamrat's trying to secure a takedown or even does secure a takedown, show me that you're focused on getting out of that position as opposed to playing Jiu-Jitsu. If he does, I think it's going to be a long night for Gamrod. The last few Rio cards, the crowd hasn't been like

that insane. I'm hoping that that changes for this one. I don't know if you saw this video of Charles Olivera at the open workouts yesterday, but him coming down the elevator is just like, it's like a movie, the way he shows up. And this is from his point of view,

him in the elevator, like, look at this crowd waiting for him, just at a mall in Brazil. It's just like absolute madness. Anytime this guy shows up. Yeah. Do we have the angle of him down low? Like from down low of him coming down?

Yeah. Just like, I mean, look at this dude aura farming out here. He's just like standing in the glass elevator. Crowd chanting his crowd going absolutely bananas for him. Like this place is going to be a sellout. It's going to be wild. Okay. We got the chance going.

Like the dude is beloved in Brazil. I love the world wide, man. Let me put this into a bit of perspective for you, actually. Got to pull by them. I went, I covered UFC 237 in Rio for ESPN. So I was in that mall where they do this open workout. They tend to do it in this, in this location. Okay.

You saw in the video there, bottom floor, packed out, top floor, packed out. UFC 237 for context. It was headlined by Rosamomnius v. Jessica And Drive. which Jessica Andraz ends up like pile driving her and getting the title but also on that card Anderson Silva

and the king of Rio Jose Alba also on that card ends up losing to Alexander Volcanowski on that card and Canaaner beat Anderson Silva so rough night for those Brazilians until Jessica Androge is able to get it done

the top level was not packed out for that and that is the king of Rio so the aura the level of attention that Charles Oliver brings is just you know He's one of the top Brazilian fighters that we've seen in terms of how dedicated his fan base is, how rabbit it is, how his star power has grown from when he was a 500 fighter and people were talking about this guy's a quitter and just had no respect for his game. He has ascended to a level that I don't think many foresaw for him. I definitely did not. I picked against him in every single one of those early title fights until he continued to prove me wrong. But yeah, to see where Charles Olavera has come, and to see that reception for him in Rio is incredible. I mean, truly one of, like, got to be top three biggest Brazilian stars ever.

Yeah, one of them. Like, I think you, you know, you could make a case for other people, but like, dude, his star powers on the Rio. The showgons, the Vanders, the Vitors, the Alos. There's a long lineage. There's a ton of them. For sure. But like, the connection with the fan base that Charles Olavera has is very unique and very rare. And the global

connection that he has. Despite only speaking Portuguese, it truly is incredible, man. Yeah, him and Alex. They have this thing that translates without having to really speak English. Another Brazilian, yeah, I guess Alex Pereira would also have to be included in that. Another former Brazilian champion that

will be fighting on this card. Co-main event, Davis and Figuero, taking on Montel Jackson. We started the show with Malcolm Wellmaker, official boy in the back. Montel Jackson also an official boy in the back. We're going into the Lions Den, baby. We're trying to pull out a dub on the enemy's soil. He's a huge favorite in this one. He's on a nice winning streak.

Davidson Figuero has sort of started to struggle at Bantamweight, obviously taking it on top of the top. This feels like a jump in competition for Montel Jackson, but it's a massive opportunity to go into Brazil, face a former champion in Davidson Figuero, and jump into like the top seven at Bantam White. I don't like this style matchup for Davis and Figuero. I just, this is going to be a striking affair, likely, and Montel Jackson is just too powerful. Like, I just don't like the chances for Davis and Figuero to stand with Montel Jackson.

Now, if it becomes grappling, if there's some dirty clinching, a dirty clinching, if there's some, like, dirty boxing, there's some clinching against the cage, there's some ways that Davis and Figueroero can make this like a little bit of a more messy fight, I think he's going to have some success

and find ways to frustrate Montel but if this just becomes throwing one twos in the middle of the ring in the middle of the cage rather I don't like many people at Bantamway to be able to stand with Montel Jackson unfortunately I think in the last fight he broke that knockdown streak right

like he was on something like seven or eight or five or six in a row or something in terms of knockdowns and then against Daniel Marcos I don't think he got one. No knockdown against Daniel Marcos had one against them on Blackshere one against Ronnie Yaya

one against Julio R's safe four against J.P. Bays. Two against Jesse Strader, one against Brett Johns, one against Felipe Corral. So what was that? Seven? How many in a row? Yeah, seven straight five? Yeah. So that unfortunately came to an end, but the power is ridiculous for Montel Jackson. The power, the speed, it's insane. Speed. The only thing that does concern me is he is on a six-fight winning streak, but the win streak is Jesse Strader, J.P. Bay, Julio, R.S.A., R.A., Yaya, the Mon Blackshear, Daniel Marcos. So, like, Davidson Figurato is of a different echelon than those guys, but also the age of Davidson, Figuero, the size difference here.

Montel Jackson is going to be five inches taller, eight inches of reach on this guy. So, like, the size, the speed, the power. There are a lot of advantages that I like here for Montel Jackson. If he can continue to succeed at this level of competition, then I think he's a real threat at Bantamweight. Yeah, I mean, his wins at Bantamweight are good names, right? Like, when you look at Figuero's wins at Bantamweight, it's Rob Fon, Cody Garbrant, Marlon, Vera. but the only one in this group that really has that like concussive knockout power is Cody Garbrandt and he wrestled him and submitted him right like that is the path to victory I think so if

if figurato can employ a similar game plan that he did against Cody Garbrandt I think he can potentially have some success I think that would be a clean path to victory if he wants to stand in trade I don't like the way that goes I think Montel Jackson as you said is too fast too powerful and just on a his confidence has to be in an all-time high where the guys that are getting in there with them they just can't really keep up yeah i mean six straight wins for him nine of his last 10 as well dating back to 2018 so i mean this guy has few and far between uh come up short in the octagon i think he continues on saturday night i think he gets it done against davison figurado gets a massive win and then at that point man you're you're in that upper echelon

of the division you're getting massive names at that point like you there's there's nowhere to hide after you beat a guy like Davidson, Figuerado, if he's able to do so on Saturday night. The featured bout the GC main event. The cent, oh. Hey! Credit to y'all. I feel like I look more like Guram in that one. I look kind of badass.

It feels like an AI mashup of me and Goram. They clearly used that pick that you always side-by-sided where you look the most like Gorham. The OG pick, the very first picture I took when I shaved my head. last March man it's been like a year and a half of the ball never been better never been better Vicente Lucay had taken on Joel Alvarez and Joel Alvarez's debut at 170 he's just too big man he's just too big to stay down at 155

he couldn't continue that the weight cut just too brutal he's just too gigantic of a man to remain down there but I can't wait for this one Joel Alvarez every win coming by way of finish I think it's 21 or 22 he'll knock you out he'll submit you it doesn't matter He gets it done via finish. Going against the guy in Vicente Lucke, who very tough dude, great

name, has had an incredible career, more on the back end of the careers where he's at right now, has also been finished in three straight losses. I don't love his chances against Joel Alvarez here. Joel Alvarez is Vicente Lucke of 10 years ago. That's exactly who is.

This is the run. So Ultimate Fighter finale, loss versus Vicente Lucke. Then I'll read you the opponents Alvaro Herrera Darstchoke Hector Orbina

knockout via punches Bilal Muhammad knockout via punches lost by decision to Leon Edwards Nico Price submission Chad LaPrice

knockout via punches Jalen Turner knockout via punches Brian Barbarina knock out via knees and punches Derek Krantz knock out via punches

then we get to a Mike Perry split then he loses to Stephen Thompson this is where it starts to get a little bit toward the Vicente Lucie that we're seeing

now. But he was that guy. He was the submission knockout threat that was just walking through everybody. And then you reach a certain level and it becomes harder to do that. At the moment, I don't think Vicente Lucke is that level, right? I don't think this is the level where Joel Alvarez is unable to kind of find that finish. It just feels like Vicente Lucke's best time was 10 years ago when he was the version of Joel Alvarez and he was getting it done. And now it's Joel Alvarez's time. He's massive. He's athletic. He's fast. He's powerful. There's nothing offensively that concerns me about Joel Alvarez. Certainly, you know, the defensive wrestling is where you're going to have your best success against Joel because that prevents him from having

his game, right? When you're wrestling him, that prevents him from doing these explosive things that he's able to do. But if you're in space with him, it is constant threat. There is not a safe moment. As you said, what is it like 21 out of 22 are finishes? I don't know, all 22. All 22. Yeah. you're pretty much cooked if you're in space with Joel Alvarez. So you need to be stuck to him or have him on his back. If not, it's going to be trouble. And so I think there's just going to be too many opportunities where they're in space. Also, nothing, man.

22 wins, three losses. One, obviously, as he was getting his career started. And then he made his UFC debut against the Mir as Magulov, who real ballers, real ball knowers, no, a tremendous fighter from Kazakhstan and Armin Sarukian. Yeah, two pretty good guys. Yeah, two pretty good guys that he's lost to. Now he's making his way up.

six three just a little too large for uh for 155 for joel alvarez now he makes his debut at 170 he's not going back to 155 either uh so very very intrigued to see what he can keep doing if he can keep the finish streak up and if he can put a stamp on this welterweight debut very proper featured bout for this card i think it's going to be great especially when you have a guy with ties to Brazil and vicente luke if he's able to get the massive upset oh god if he gets the upset it would be sick uh i keep seeing the line growing minus 6 50 for Joel Alvarez. It makes sense. Like, as I said, this feels like Luca is facing himself from 10 years ago. Like, you're going to pick the young version. You're going to pick the guy

who's entering his prime already in his prime. So it's just a tough matchup for him. All right. So now we kind of sort of get into that different sector of the card. Yeah. There's a line. There's a line. 16 and 26 fighters are coming off a loss on this card. And we move to Jonata Denise versus the undefeated Mario Pinto, Brazilian versus Portuguese in this one. I like Denise, man. It's a, man, this division. Take the O?

Yeah, I mean, I think people are not aware of, like, how good or respectable a kickboxing career Denise had. Like, he's not, like, he faced some high-level guys. Like, he was in glory at the same time as Israel, Asana and Alex Pereira and some of these other. So I'm familiar with him from the kick. kickboxing days like he wasn't he wasn't nearly as um like uh he you uh you know of of an attraction as those guys but he was he was a commendable kickboxer and so yeah i just i just lean i think

he's he's he's underrated in the ufc in my opinion and and this is the division that needs guys desperately like just anybody to have any kind of success anyone who can get finishes as well though i think this one is is actually favored to go to go to a decision or maybe i'm Maybe I'm thinking of another. There's a couple heavyweight fights on this card. But, yeah, we'll see what happens in that one. And you have another Brazilian in Ricardo Ramos taking on Khan-O-Flee-145-pound matchup. How do you feel about this one?

I don't. How do you feel about it? We're five fights down and you already don't feel about it? I know that, look, this is, this. Which shows. Yeah, this should be a win for Ricardo Ramos, but I don't know. He's lost three of his last four. Yeah, but now he's facing.

the appropriate level of competition. To me, this feels like a get back on track for Ramos, but I don't have a great read. Do you? No, of course I don't. I mean, it's Ricardo Ramos versus Con Olf. I'm not going to sit here and fake it, okay? I'm very much looking forward to the top three fights on this card, and then I'm going to watch the rest and, you know, sort of take it in. How about Lucas Almeida versus the Texas kid, Michael Aswell? Yeah, now... Lucas Almeida also lost three of his last four. Yeah, see, man, we are in we are in tough sledding here um we are in tough sledding but i'm not faulting the ufc for it why not because charles olivera is on the card and they're just stacking with brazilians after charles oliverr i know but like

i mean there's no one else to fault other than the ufc but it's not like i'm sitting here pissed about it i'm not wallowing in it okay yeah as well as well in his last one lost well he lost on contender series and then he got a contract and lost in his debut against belize jokey i could what am i what am i what am i supposed to break down here at this point we just got to wait and see, you know, building stars, building stars over here. Jafel Fielo versus Clayton Carpenter? Okay, at least interesting here, like return of Clayton Carpenter. I'm interested to see how that goes.

So return of Jafel Fila. I enjoy Jafel Fila fights. Yeah, last Carpenter fight lost to UlaMbekov, which, as we know, is like, that is an extremely respectable fighter and a loss. I'm interested, now, now, okay, now we've got some intrigue. All right, let's keep it going. LFA legend, Thomas Peterson, taking on Vitor Petrino. Now the intrigue is lost, you know.

I'm not Beatrice Mascuita No, no Let's go back for a second Where are you on Vitor Petrino Sometimes he bombs people Into the 18th row

And sometimes he has the most Boring, horrible performances you could watch I was thinking the same thing Is he the number Like is he a top five Looks good getting off the bus guy Like he looks like

He looks like he's about to kill somebody And then it's always not that But then you look at the Then you look at the results and it's like knockout, choke. Well, the Bukakis win is aging nicely. Yeah, Modestis is in a nice run right now. Even like, you know, Marcy and Prachino, that's a decent win.

The losses to Jacobian Smith, like I just think that's probably a level above. Austin Lane, I don't make much of that one. But yeah, I don't know. I've always been underwhelmed by Petrino, but then at the same time intrigued by his potential. But I feel like it's just the getting off the bus thing. I'm like, I look at the guy and I'm like, yeah, he's real good. He's going to be real good. and then it's always underwhelming.

Maybe this can be a showcase. Speaking of looking good, getting off the bus, Johnny Walker versus Camaro Usman. Oh, I'm sorry. Walter Walker versus Mohamed Usman. That's getting off the bus, but then the Spider-Man meme where you wipe your glasses

and it's the other brothers. Camaro Usma, moving up to 205 to take on Johnny Walker. Now, Walter Walker versus Muhammad Usma, Walter Walker going for a fourth straight heel hook, though he's set in interviews this week, he's going to go for the knockout. Why?

I don't know. Why would you do that? Muhammad Usman is likely going to wrestle him and get into a situation where he could get a fourth straight heel hook. Yeah. That would have to be a record. I feel like three has to be a record,

all in the first round, too. I think Walter Walker is better everywhere. Is that fair to say? Like, I just think he's a better grappler. He's a better striker. I don't know how Muhammad Usman wins this. Yeah, wrestling. Just like Lambet Rusman.

Like, even wrestling, is he good? And like, Muhammad Usman looks so terrifying, but like he just like doesn't get any finishes at the UFC level he is six UFC fights five decisions he's slow he's very slow it just like he doesn't have that like insane explosive knockout power and he just looks like he's in quicksand at all times and I don't think that's a recipe for success against Walter Walker like I lean pretty heavily like I mean pretty big performance back in June against Tomdy was it Thomas Peterson yeah Nick Parkin? I was like earlier I was like man if Alex Pereira leaves 205

is going to leave 205 in disarray it's like heavy weight needs Alex Ferre because heavy weight is in fucking disarray man now we're going to get the Janata Denise win

we're going to get the Volta Walker win and we're going to start the era you know Meet to Patrino Thomas Peterson is also heavy Oh there you go yeah We'll get the Patrino I forgot Um yeah I stylistically I think this is a huge advantage

for Walter Walker like as you said Even in the wrestling if it hits the mat the guy's been hunting for leg locks. I don't know how this goes his way. Cut to, this is the TikTok edit where they, like, I'm like, you can't win. Then they cut two. It's just like, and it's like, Moose Man's face all pissed off. And it's just like, there's just, it's a great style last thing match.

And it's over and right. Walter Walker's unconscious on the floor. But yes, I favor Walker in a big way. Legend of the game. Polish M.A. Ah, yes. Maybe the second most famous women's Polish mixed martial artist of all time. Karolina Kovulkevich taken on Julia Polostri.

Second? Yonna? What about Jan? I said women. Oh, women, sorry. Oh, boy. Disrespectful to Jan there. I wasn't listening.

My bad. Yeah. this this feels like uh it's too long in the tooth for carolina at this point plus 400 yeah i don't know what to say about this other than i don't i don't think this is the time for carolina right now like the best the best days are behind had that had that four or five win streak a couple years back that was years back now though that's the problem since loss it's a yesme and lucendo and thenicey gomes uh now she gets a palestrian yeah that was like that was 2023 that that October of 2023 so that was over two years ago now that was two years ago yesterday i don't how old is

carolina carolina is 39 uh i just i just don't favor her in this one i favor the youth yeah i'm gonna go with the same overall top three fights are fantastic on this card i'm very much looking forward to it uh prelims could still be fun i'm i will be tuned in i will be watching and we'll see if brazilians can get rolling i'm interested this is the ufc debut for bia right yeah yeah this is the UFC debut. I'm interested to see how the Jiu-Jitsu game translates for her. Irina's not bad though.

Oh, against Russian Ronda? Yeah. Like, Irene is the type of opponent that I could actually see the Jiu-Jitsu heavy game being hard against, like the Samba background and, like, I'm just interested,

I'm interested to see what Bia's going to be able to do. If, like, the Jiu-Jitsu game is flowing and all of a sudden she looks great, I think this is a good momentum builder. Like, now you've got somebody you could kind of get behind. But man, Irina is actually like a tough debut,

in my opinion. One and two in the UFC now has lost her last two. Most of the moments wasn't great. Again, the Samba... It's also her debut, of course. And the UFC jitters. Who knows how that happens? Yeah, me, shout to Buccecha, bro.

After the Buccecha, I'm a little gun shy on the jujitsu players, man. I can't believe it's been like two and a half months since that. Feels like yesterday. It feels like yesterday. RMP. All right, that is UFC Brazil. those top three fights are incredible main cards pretty good and then on to the prelims looking

forward to that one we'll be right back with parley pals bets voicemails pound for pound all of that we're just getting started here we'll be right back don't go anyway all right we are back i have to own up to my crimes i have to uh tone for my sins uh last week on the parley pals was gonna pick yri was like yep erie's it and i was like you not you know what everybody you know is put them in the mud put him through the ringer. He's going to bounce back. He's going to get a dub. And I switched my pick from Yerey Prohashka to Patchy Mix.

And that cost us. That turned a winner into a loser. And for that, I have to just say, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the parlay palis. I put us from the green back into the red. My actions caused that. From switching from Yeri to Apache. Which is tough?

We went from a winner to a loser. It'd be nice for a pizza to come on and actually, you know, give it to you for once. I know, I know. We're a loser. I'm the first time, you know, I cause it. Pizzi's called it, like, 17 times. I never have. No, I heard it.

I heard it. I heard it. He's just used the bit so many times. Now it's not Yuri Fight Week anymore. It's a bit of a sensitive subject. So, you know, I'm going to get into it. We're going to show this to Yiri. You know selling his whole gimmick.

And he's going to be like, who is this info? I wanted to show him. more emotional. Why is he so flat and calm in front of the camera? Can we talk about that for one second, though? I think it was actually, he was flattered. Like, I don't, do you really feel like you just know Solis, like, I'm not interested in this?

I think he's the kind of guy that's like, that is pretty cool. He's just not going to admit to it. No, I think he probably would have said, I think that's pretty cool. Thanks, man. Appreciate you showing me that. I feel like Frank's ability to read the room in that scenario is not.

I think he was like, I think in no uncertain terms, he was like, fuck this clown. Why the fuck are you showing me this, bro? I'm sitting in a gas station with flies flying around me, man. When he did the look away, I showed it to my mom, and my mom shed a single tear when he did the look away. Well, we took the full screen, and he actually was showing his watch. Like, are we out of time here?

Like, what's going on? Wait, so my only son. You saw that, and why did you interpret it as a disrespect? I just now put two and two together that maybe he was like, can we speed this up? I've got to go. Yeah, that's exactly what he was doing. Ask me anything. Ask me about the shit that I took this morning.

Don't show me this shit All right I actually had to say Getting Flack for the emotion I am not the only one That showed any emotion I dropped the video in Dana Black MMA

On IGA Dana Black MMA on IG He was at Buffalo Wild Wings And this was his reaction Yo I just got kicked out A Buffalo Wild Wings Because Durepo Haska's a fucking goat

It's the fucking goat Shirt Rift The fucking goat That you ever fucking cut him out Spit flying That's my fucking goat That's my fucking goat

Beating the chest Feed him fucking magamade right now Mogadija instead of margaret You hear him get a little choked up there He's a little choked up What the fuck I'm talking about I don't even fucking care I just wish we had a picture and picture of Yuri

Just completely no selling his response to that He's just sitting there Shout out to Buffalo Wild Wing Shout out to Dana Black When he says the Feed him Magamette You hear him get a bit choked up Feed him Mogadishu

The captions Mogadishu Shout out I also saw some other people's reactions Going just as crazy as me And I also got backed up A lot of people online Shout out of them being like

I was going even crazier than you Yeah we don't have to defend Like there's no defense There's no defense required for that It's okay to celebrate The rip shirt is incredible Also I'm not going anywhere

I might be even more of a Yeri fan now I might be we've gone from D1 to professional We're now We're now Hall of Fame

What level is Dena Black? Is he professional? I don't know I want to talk to Dana Black Did he have money on that? Like is he really just a Uri fan? Ripped shirt kicked out of Buffalo Wild Wings I also want to know

Did he rip his own shirt Or was it a struggle To get him out of the Buffalo Wild Wings And that's when the shirt got rid. Yeah, did he Hulk Hogan it or in the, sir, you must leave was his shirt torn? I think that's

the one. I also want to know if he's that hype and that happy when Yuri won how pissed was he for the first two rounds? Somebody needs to get a hold of Dana Black and we need to find out. I mean, he's got like 60 K followers on IG so like he's

well known. Shout out Dana Black. The original Dana Black, obviously Anderson Silva. Shout to Yiri. legend. So yeah, I wasn't the only one going crazy. There's real love out here in these streets for year a year, just needs to recognize it. All right, I've already gotten

Pizzi's pick for this weekend. I believe he took, did you, who did he take? He told us in the group chat. Vitor Petrino. The heavyweight legend, Vitor Petrino. Perfect. The heavyweight legend, Vitor Petrino.

Frankie, why don't you kick us off? I'll go second. Rick, you go. You go third, man. That is a great idea. And that is why I'm going to go with Montel Jackson. Hey, shout out. That's an easy pig.

Shout out to our boy, Montel Jackson. Love it. Did you know his middle name is Samuel? Is it actually? It actually is. So he's Samuel Jackson. Those are your words. But yes, he's Montel, Samuel Jackson.

That's a real thing. I promise you. I looked it up because I wanted to see if he had a nickname. I was going to do a whole thing. He does. Quick. And on Instagram, he's what, Montello, right? Montello.

Quick is his nickname. I thought you were to say, quick. No, no, quick is his nickname. Okay. I mean, we asked. This is how you usually executive produce. You're like, quick, quick, do it. Die.

What? He's actually, his name on IG is Montel Quick Jackson. There you go. Yo, soy Rapido. Nice. All right. I'm going with the boy, Joel Alvarez, making his debut at Walter White. I feel like this is very like we're picking our guys here.

I'm going to stick with you the superior Walker brother and go with Walter Walker. Picking our guys here. Then you took Walter Walker. Oh, I'm a big fan of our boss. And also, Pizzi's guy is now Vitor Petrino. There we are, in the red. Aye, aye, aye. We got to get it back this week, boys.

I was so confident last week. Dude, why did I, why did I think that? Yeah, until you switch to you. I'm a fucking casual. Raven never would have taken patchy mix. I mean patchy, yeah. Shout out. Shout out.

All right, let me run through my bets real quick before we get to pound for pound. Got a few this week. Usman Walker. under two and a half. I like this price on a heavyweight fight where Walker has gotten a finish in his last three fights. I know Usman has been to a ton of decisions, but I like Walker to push the pace in this one, take the fight where he wants to go. And I don't think we get a knock it. I think we get another sub in this one. So shout out, heavyweight under two and a half minus 135 had to take it. Next up. Jafel Filo as a dog against Clayton Carpenter. I like

the aggression. I like the finishing capability. And the Brazilian in his home country will go with feel low. And then last but not least, the main event. I'm not taking a side. I'm taking the under three and a half. You're giving me an under three and a half. I know he's fighting Gamron. On a Charles Olivera fight, I know he just saw him go five rounds with Michael Chandler, but throughout the course of his career, Charles Olivera has been an agent of chaos. I like the potential of him getting the back in the scrambles. I like the potential of him hurting Gamron on the feet. And then on the flip side of that, he is coming back quickly after a knockout. Gamron potentially gets a finish there as well, under three and a half in that one.

Parlay's. I'm going heavy on this one. Multi-week parlay. My guy, Joel Alvarez, with my boy, Tommy Aspinall. I will be adding to Tom before that as well, even if this one gets through. Next up, Denise Pinto, over one and a half, Joel Alvarez, inside the distance, Montel Jackson Parlay. That one pays plus 174. And then, last, but no, least. Yeah, I mean, you got to do it. If you're going to go to Rio. Finally, jumping on board, now that they went to Mexico, every Mexican fighter one. I went to Australia, every Australian fighter one except for Jake Matthews. They went to...

And Jake Matthews actually won. Yeah, and he actually won. They went to Paris, every French fighter won. It was just like, oh, man, I'm catching all these parlets. GC, look, I'm catching all these parlays. Now I'm going to jump on board, and I'm only going to take the favorites. Someone's going to blow it. Plus 574 on this one, though.

Shout out to the Brazilian favorites. UFC Rio, those are the picks. We'll see what happens. I like him. Let's go to the pound-for-pound rankings, which actually stems from the main inventor Charles Olivera

though he tried to thwart us he tried to screw over our game plan because in honor of Charles Dubranks drop the do leave the Bronx

Olivera Charles de Bronx Olavera take it out Bronx Borough of New York City fucking out we have to rank the

Five boroughs in New York City. The reason I say he thwarted it, he is now the predator. Yeah. Apparently? No apparent. He posted these graphics in the hunt for the strongest. There is only room for a predator. So as of now, it's Charles the predator. Kind of crazy. Here and in the octagon, a fighter who like me faces any challenge head on, always ready for whatever comes next. Only this time, the mission is to confront the greatest of enemies and restore the respect of a people. This feels like the beginning of like a movie. Predator. Wait. Predator Wildlands, November 6th in theaters, 20th Century Studios.

I'm not going to lie, this is my first time seeing that. Is he doing this in association with a movie? Yes. But the question is, what? Is the movie called Predator? The question is... I can't lie to you guys. I never saw it.

his post about it. I only saw like the graphics and I saw that he changed his Instagram name to the predator. This is all for a movie. Holy shit. Is Bruce Buffer going to announce him as the predator? Oh. That's the real question. This is truly the moment I have been waiting. I will

actually be waiting for that. It is the moment. With as much intrigue as I was going to find out whether or not it was the one, the only Alex Poton Pereira. Now is it going to be Charles the Predator Olivera? I didn't see the end of that post. That was real time me discovering that this was for 20th century studios.

What is Francis thinking right now? I know. Also, there's been more than just Francis, right? Yeah. Don Frye. Don Frye as well. There's been a few, but Don Fry was the Predator. Wow, this is all for a movie.

That's fucking insane. If he really, like, to change your Instagram name, and if he actually, and he says, like, in the Octagon, if he changes his name on Saturday, that would be wild promo. Okay, so he didn't change his actual handle. It's still Charles de Dr. No, no, not the handle, but the name. Charles Predator and the,

the actual thing. Wow. That is... That is insane. No, the top comment. No, Charles, don't call yourself that, please. Does it change the fight? You want to line it differently now?

No, but that's crazy. That's crazy. Frank, before the show, when we were talking about this, and you were just like, oh yeah, isn't there a new movie coming out? I was like, I don't fucking know. I was like, is there even a Predator movie? And you're like, you fucking serious?

You haven't seen Predator? Wow, wow, wow. This reminds you. Always read the caption. I just saw the aggregated post that he had changed the name. Yeah. We're going to have to see.

Saturday is the moment of truth on this one. That will be absolutely incredible. Actually, no. 20th century better pay up if Bruce Buffer announces it. Because his arena, like he'll be walking into the arena, and I imagine the UFC graphics will say whatever the nickname is. So now we might find out when he comes in to the arena.

Oh, that's going to be crazy. All right, Frankie, what's the order? The order is, Eric Connor Frank Okay I wasn't expecting to go first But I'm happy to oblige

Cross in the chat says How was this the first time learning That it's only because of sponsorship I don't know Maybe because it happened two days ago And I didn't read his Instagram post Wait did it happen two days ago Yeah I mean it happened like

Today I thought it happened like this morning Happened one day ago That's how I didn't know cross Also All the aggregators like aren't saying like it's a partnership with blah. Yes, it's just saying that he changed the nickname.

Okay. This one's near and dear to my heart, obviously, as a born and bred New Yorker. This list means a lot to me. This is the, respectfully to both of your list. This is the definitive list. I will say that right off the... Queens, number one. We're not there yet.

We're at number five. But let me just say definitively, this is the list. Number five, we're starting with Staten Island. Staten Island. disrespect. The real island. Hold on. It is an actual island.

On Staten Island and in Staten Island. I don't think they say the on. Look at that. Look at that foliage, man. As a born and raised New Yorker, I have not spent any time in Staten Island. I have passed through on the Verrazano Bridge in order to go to other parts of this country.

That's the name of the bridge, huh? Yes. And I have not spent time in Staten Island. But, but. Great Island. on draft house in Staten Island. I am a subscribed member to the Staten Island Zoo

and so I will be taking a trip there sometime this fall to take my dog. Subscribed member and you've never been? Just this year. Now, the reason I became a member of the Staten Island Zoo is because there are zoos around the country that have reciprocation.

Meaning, if I have a membership to the Staten Island Zoo, I get 50% off or even 100% off at other zoos. And during my trip to the Midwest, we went to multiple zoos that then benefited me, monetarily benefited me greatly.

Thank you to the Staten Island Zoo for that Are you like a couponer? My wife is a little bit My wife is actually a little bit Respect it But I will be going to the Staten Island Zoo With my daughter who I think will have a fantastic time Shout out to Staten Island

Let me say also definitively And for the record I have all five of these locations Plus Long Island I have everywhere else in the entire universe There is not a place in this galaxy There is not a place in this universe That is above New York

Or these five boroughs plus Long Island. So while I have Staten Island fifth, it's five boroughs, Long Island, and then everybody else, 10 billion years away. Bottom. They might as well not even exist. It's New York versus the world to fuck everybody else. Yeah, they suck. Is Long Island the sixth borough or is Newark? No, New Jersey is not clarity on that. New Jersey is not. I've been told Newark is the six. No, have you been told that by anybody from New York? Who's a New Yorker? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Born in New York. Most people born in New York recognize it as the sixth borough.

I'm going to question their New York part. I refuted that and then they were like, no, no, no, it's the sixth borough. No, Long Island is actual New York. And Bayonne is the seventh borough. And New Jersey is not New York. Just making sure. Five boroughs. Sikakis is.

Five boroughs, Long Island. And then like Mecca. Like everything. No, Long Island. Uh-huh. And then everywhere else. And they're light years behind. They are not even in the conversation.

It's New York. I guess we'll have to see where, you know, the other parts of Long Island, Queens and Brooklyn, you know, where Queens and Brooklyn go on your list because, you know. Five boroughs, five boroughs. In Staten Island? On Staten Island? You know what? Pipe down on Staten Island?

Well, there is no subway in Staten Island, right? There is actually. There's the Staten Island shuttle. Does anyone use it? There's a ferry. There's a ferry. There's a ferry that crashed one time. Actually, Spider-Man saved that ferry. No, no, no. There was a real Staten Island Ferry crash.

Why did Spiderman bother? Moving on to my number four. Number four, as I said, this is not a disrespect to anybody. If you are on this list, you are a New Yorker. We're in the list. The Bronx. Number four is the Bronx. Don't have anything bad to say about the Bronx.

Affordable living. You can live inside New York City affordably. Fantastic zoo. You want to talk about zoos. The Bronx Zoo is one of the best zoos in the entire world. What do we need to do zoos for? Yeah, is this your powerful zoo list? Zoos are great.

You guys don't love zoos? I don't say anything wrong with zoos. Have you been to the Bronx Zoo? Uh, you know. No? They won't let me there. Bronx Zoo. Fantastic Zoo.

Top Zoo. Great Zoo. Madagascar. Amazing Zoo. Uh, Yankee Stadium, obviously, historic landmark. Uh, one of the best high schools in the nation. What, what's how you say? Oh, did I go there?

Yes, I did go there because. Bronx High? It's called Bronx High School of Science, actually. Oh, it is one of the top high schools in the nation and, you know. Do you guys have a zoo there? NY Botanical Garden. No, but, you know, up there, there's the, there is a Bronx Botanical Garden and up There's the Bronx Zoo.

Birthplace of hip hop and salsa, the Bronx. The food or the dance? Salsa, the dance, the dance. So a fantastic place. This is also a place where I'm going to take an opportunity to make an announcement. Two weeks ago on this show, a caller on the voicemails asked me, I'm going to solo here for a second. A caller on the voicemail asked me who I would fight. And I made the unfortunate move of saying my friend V. Shaw.

I now retract that statement. I love my friend V. Shaw. I would never fight him. And in fact, he's a beautiful, handsome, intelligent, smart man who was right about Steph Curry, Pat Mahomes, Joel Embed, Paul, George, Cade Cunningham, Aaron Judge, Shohayotan, and everything else. He's brilliant, and I love him dearly, and I would never fight him. And also, he's the co-owner of a brilliant protein ice cream named Sweet Gaines. Shout out to you, Vichal. I love you, dear. Yeah, Sweet Gaines is kind of sick. I'll get you some.

But that's it for the Bronx. They've got V-Shall, so they're good in my book. Okay. Number three, this was where it got tough. The top three is very tough for me, I must admit. But I had to do this. There were some tough calls that needed to be made, and I had to do it. Number three, Manhattan.

Number three is Manhattan. Wow. This is where the action is. I can't deny. This is a take, yeah. When you're a New Yorker, the Central Park Zoo is kind of mid, if we're being honest. It's in the middle of the list. Bronx Zoo, even.

Queen Zoo kind of crush it. Haven't been to Staten Island yet, but I'll be able to weigh in on that after the fact. Queens also has a zoo? Fantastic zoo. In the middle of Flushing Meadows Park where they have the unisphere where the World Fair was. I'll talk more about that later. You'll find out. I mean, it's New York City.

Zoo York. This is when New Yorkers say, and I want Jordan's confirmation on this, when you're a New Yorker and you say I'm going to the city, you're going to Manhattan. Right. Even though we are all in the same in New York. Yeah, that's what you said. Jordan, confirm, right? We call this the city, yes?

It's the city. Even when we lived in Connecticut, I'd be like, oh, I'm going to the city. And then people were like, you're going to Boston? I'm like, what's wrong with you? Yeah. These people don't know. These people from Boston. What is the city?

Yes, but it's not the city. The city is Manhattan. It is the center of business. It is Wall Street. It is the capital. It is the center of the universe. These are the five boroughs of what again? New York City.

Okay. Yes, but the city is Manhattan. It's the heartbeat. Here's where it's where, here's where it's docked for me. Here's why I have it number three as opposed to number two or number one. As a New Yorker, it's a place you want to visit rather than a place you want to live. The city is expensive, is hard to commute around. The driving is impossible. The space is extremely limited unless you are living like the top one of the one of the one of the one of the one percent. It's a very different. difficult place to kind of navigate a life, especially with a family. You have to kind of go to the outer boroughs. Fantastic place. Visit it. Come here. Spend all your money. But Manhattan is number three. Behind number two. And this was also a tough cut. This was tough. I had to make some decisions here. But number two is Brooklyn. Fantastic place. Shocker. Has a little bit of, has a little bit of everything, right? It has a community. It has ability to reside. The ability to live at a cheaper cost than living in the city but also has so much commerce so much business

so much life so much energy so much activity we're here taking a look at coney island uh you know it has beaches there's so many places it has beautiful brownstones to live in in many uh parts of brooklyn there's all kinds of different neighborhoods that have their own vibe that have their own cultures it's fantastic you've lived in brooklyn i've lived in brooklyn many in the frank lives in brooklyn yes yes man uh i don't know if jordan or and have lived in Brooklyn. But Brooklyn is fantastic. It's a great place to live. But what it is not is number one, and that's the best borough, and that's Queens. Naturally, and as you predicted, it was Queens. It had to be Queens. The most ethnically diverse urban area in the entire world,

a melting pot of sorts. When you talk about New York being the melting pot, you are actually talking about Queens, New York. You are actually talking about the place that every different culture and diverse ethnicity comes to live. It's the second largest and most diversified economy of the five boroughs of New York City behind Manhattan in terms of the size of the economy. It's great for business. It's great for families.

It has access to the two airports. It is the hub for travel, right? We've got LaGuardia. We've got JFK, both in Queens. It's superior. It is where all the various cultures come and meet. Queens is the best. I love Queens.

and I look forward to every time I go back. Well said, man. Shout to Queens. Who's next, Frankie? That's you. Number five? The Bronx. Yankee Stadium, Zoo, Botanical Garden.

Other than that, I'm probably not going up all the way to the Bronx. So shout out to it. Number four, Ricks number one, Queens. City Field, U.S. Open. But other than that, you know. Good restaurants. I'll give Queens good restaurants. The food?

Food's great. Food's great in Queens. Many a fight feasts over in Astoria. This is a disappointing ranking. Shout out to Queens. Number three, Staten Island, baby. Spacious, residential golf. Man loves a parking lot. I love a good parking lot. Alamo Draft House that I could just peel right into parking lot. Residential spacious, like I said. I enjoy Staten Island. Known as of the World. Shout out. Got a Vince Vaughn movie based off of it. what's his name who's there Pete Davidson yeah Pete Davidson their biggest export

shout to Staten Island number two these are these are one and two it's just not even close number two is Brooklyn great bars great restaurants great parks NBA team Coney Island

community a lot of shit to do diverse neighborhoods shout out to Brooklyn and then number one it's not even close it's Manhattan the amount of shit that you can do in Manhattan go catch a nixie game, go to Central Park, go see all the tourist attractions, you can go from neighborhood to

neighborhood, and it's completely different than the one before it. You got Chinatown, you got the Lower East Side, you got the West Village, you got the Upper West Side, Upper East Side. You got Midtown with all its Times Square touristy bullshit. Manhattan clears far and away, number one. I'm known for not having a motion. There is an actual pain in my chest from Staten Island being ranked a row. I don't know, not yet, depending on how your list goes. But Staten Island above Queens, this cannot be, this cannot be justified. Beautiful fairy to get over, you pass right by the Statue of Liberty. The food, the culture.

The food's pretty good in Queens. Oh. There's no lasagna soup. It's really that Connor hates Long Island and so, you know, Queens. But then how did Brooklyn get so high? Oh, Brooklyn's pretty nice, man. Many of the time, Connor and I hung out in Brooklyn. Not good.

Many of the time we've hung out in Queens as well. I'm hurt. How much are you hanging out in Staten Island? I always cross over the, I don't go to Staten Island that often, but every time I do, I'm like, Staten Island, gets a bad rap, man. It's a bad rap. Yeah, I don't like it. So with that being said, my number five is Staten Island.

You mentioned taking the ferry across to look at the statue. Did we have the same picture? Oh, wow, that's cool, man. Great minds. I went by it once and saw the statue, and then just took the ferry back had a beer on the way there and back it was fun. I did get to hang out in Staten Island

with Rayquan from Wooten Clan. That's pretty cool. Bustick name drop him. Yeah. And in fact, that is my only fact to say about Staten Island. It's the only time I've actually been in or on the island. And I hope to keep it that way for the rest of my life. I want that to always be the thing like, Frank, you ever been to Staten Island? Yeah, I hung up with Rayquan

there once. And that's it. My number four is Queens. Fuck out of here. Every time I've gone to Queens, I've been told, it's been gassed up. All right, so we're just going to do the same pictures. I'm on a train. Flushing Queens.

Did you use the same one than I did? The heart of Asian culture in New York City. I'm sorry. Fuck Chinatown. Flushing Queens. The zoo is a little mid, you know. Oh, you haven't even been there. You're lying.

It takes me three hours to get there from Brooklyn. No, we're neighbors. What are you talking about? Brooklyn and Queens are neighbors. You can get there in 10 to 15 minutes. What? G train? My number three, oh god, the G train. It's so damp in there. I hate it. Used to work in Long Island City. I was like, fuck, get me out of here. In fact, number three

is Bronx, which I don't actually like. I've only been there maybe once or twice, but I can tell you I like it more than Queens. You motherfuckers, disparaging Queens. Is you think the same picture is Rick again? For every single one. You have not been to Queens. That's what I'm realizing. I was in Queens just last Sunday. You guys talk about coming out to the long Island state and doing that. What we actually need to do is have more excursions to Queens because you guys are fucking up Roy. I had someone invite me.

They're like, hey, Frank, come out to Flushing and I look at the map. How can we have eaten all the good food that we've eaten for fight feasts in Queens? And you guys are just like, eh, you know what? Staten Island that I've been to once, though. I've been a few times, man. I was a card holding member at the Alamo draft house. Frank, when have you gone to the Bronx? Honestly, it's been since our boy ran the marathon.

Yeah. What the fuck is happening right now? Which was a lot of fun. That's actually a great point by you, Frank. I think I'm the only one that's gone, walked through all five boroughs. Same day. In the same day? In the same day?

Yeah, damn. All right, good for you. You start in Staten Island and you go through all five boroughs. Look, Rayquan, what's to call me? I'd be like, let's go hang out in Queens. I'd be like, you know what? Maybe Queens goes up in the list a little bit. You don't know Rayquan, man.

A jaw rule can give you a call. Put the fries in the bag, little, bro. Oh, this is heinous. Number two, Manhattan. I love Manhattan. a lot i really do um there's so much to do it's a great walking city i love that depending on the time of the day like the city just feels different like we went down to the village yesterday and like we were in a car because we were doing a little fight feast thing and i didn't even recognize

the area because like we i'm not normally there in like the rush hour time and i'm like i just love that i love that the people kind of make the city lots of cool things you know movie theaters music venues it's all there i really enjoy manhattan and it's not queens which is you You hate the other three boroughs, but you like Manhattan and Brooklyn. I do like Manhattan. And then number one is Brooklyn. Yes, I'm biased. I live there.

But, I mean, the culture out there, it just can't be beat. Queens has more! Queens has, what, UBS Arena? Like, oh, my God, it takes three hours to get there. Forest Hills, are we going to stop playing at 10? Because, you know, we're basically a suburb. I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

Queens has everything that Brooklyn has, but better. More. And further away. More and better. And you talk about all. the people. Yeah, man. I needed a backyard.

I can't live in any of these places because I needed a backyard. That's why I moved out to Jordanville. What the fuck is happening here? Did you guys actively go in to disparage Queens because you knew it was a lot? I crossed over a certain point.

I'm like, up, we're in Queens. This is horrible. Hopefully the chat roasts you guys to the appropriate level. This is trash. You know what? I could probably watch all of the Lord of the Rings

on my way at Queens next time because it takes so fucking long to get there. So I'll do that and probably have a good time. Manhattan and Brooklyn have very good PR teams, right? Like they are great PR. They have great PR. Queens needs better PR. Queens needs better PR. Queens needs better PR because

Brooklyn and Manhattan are the ones that everybody's going to point to and they just don't understand that Queens is actually better. It's kind of bad for Queens though if their most famous thing is that you know, in entourage says I am Queens Boulevard and that's what everyone knows about Queens. That's the most famous thing. Yeah, probably. The World's Fair happened in

Queens. The airports are in Queens. The culture, the diversity. The airport thing isn't a good thing. That means people are leaving. They're escaping. No, they are coming. They are coming here. I hear the planes every day because they go to Queens, which is on Long Island. It is not on

Long Island. It is a separate borough. Queens is one of the five boroughs that we just listed. It is the best borough. This has gotten me extremely upset, and I am actually legitimately. Ooh, the seven train. Yeah. It's a great train.

Legendary line. It's a legendary line. Two City Field. Has his baseball team. Shout up to City Field. Yeah, City Field's a great. It's way better than that dump Yankee Stadium. I agree.

When you finally get there, I mean, God. Oh, this is. Is there a zoo in Queens? Hey, shout out to the U.S. It's a great zoo. There's a petting. They have a fantastic regular zoo, and then right, you have to cross one road,

and you're at the petting zoo, which is fantastic. It's a fantastic petting zoo. The Bronx Zoo is still better, but that's really all the Bronx has going for. it, Queens. Please. I'm down with Queens, bro. No, you're not. It's the fourth best girl. It's under Staten Island. I'm number four. I think it is a

top four borough. I don't even know. I'm just I'm flabbergasted and upset. The chat needs to the chat needs to weigh in. The chat's moved on, man. They're like, all this Queens please. This can't stand. This cannot stand. Frank, we got any voicemails, brother?

I think you guys are against diversity. Living in Brooklyn? No. Working in Manhattan? This is, this is... Queens is the number two Most Diverse Borough. No, it's the number one. It's the number two

biggest economy behind Manhattan. Ahoy, hoi. Hey, this is AJ from Philly. Childs of the boys in the back. Rick, Connor, Frank. Honor members, Jordan, and Andy. Let's go. Side note.

What do you think about Bad Bunny as a performer for football, 26? Back to the main question. Do you guys think Tom Aspinall will be champ in six years? Six? He will be the same age John Jones is right now at 38. If you don't see that matchup with John Jones and Tom next year, waiting for Tom could be a prime Gable Steven, John Jones protege,

who will be 32 and Tom will be 38. Do you think that fight would happen then? Fuck, man. Six years is so hard. That is just impossible, impossible to know. Who was even remotely close, like Pantoja was not, Marov was not, Volk was like in the conversation six years ago? Oh, like who was even like a champion that was like...

Yeah, Hamza was not, Hawksparer was not, Jack Della was not. How many of these guys were even in the UFC six years ago? Tom Aspenall. To his point though, John. John was the name. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Was Valentina a champ six years ago? Yeah, she was in the convo, that's for sure.

Yeah. 2019 yes she was champion so six years ago she was she was champ it's gonna she's a beast look heavyweight has a long tail to it tom could do i think tom aspinall could i definitely think he could because 38 is not old for a heavyweight do i think there's going to be enough fights to keep tom aspinall busy for six years or that there won't be like a gable steveson who comes up and maybe is the next big thing i don't know it's too hard to predict volk also he won his championship in december of 2019 so then there you go So it's possible. We have two champions who were champions six years ago.

In a division where you can be older. Will he just be racking up title defenses for the next six years? God, could you imagine? 2031, he's still champ? That would be unbelievable. The Gable thing could be interesting. Obviously, we have to see his career play out. That would be insane if any of that came to fruition.

But I think it's just one fight at a time right now, especially in the heavyweight division where you can get smoked so easily because the guys are so huge. We need to go to resident Bad Bunny expert Andy. for the way in on that. Yeah, this was definitely for me. The resident bad bunny lover, yes, I am so, so excited, but I hope people keep hating on it

because then that just means that he's going to give us an even better fully in Spanish performance. So shout out Benito, and everybody has four months to get it together and learn the songs. That's all I got to say. Who is, like, I cannot believe there's a faction of people that is bothered by this. To the point where we're getting like SNL skits about it.

So bothered. Some of it is not exactly motivated by the music, you know? What do you mean? I'll leave it at that. But I don't want to let Andy off the hook. Like I need to know, Andy. Queens. What do you need to know?

Queens. Come on. What number are we at? You don't have to rank the others. I just need to know what number it's at. So for me, honestly, because I'm a Brooklyn girly, it's a five, Rick. What the? Five.

Fuck. Five. It's a five. I think, like, even Staten Island, which is right next to me, right? So it's even more fun for me because I can get there easily. Yes, sir. Sorry, man. I mean, it has two cool airports.

Staten Island is the actual island of New York City. Even if you guys are trolling, this is really... You are right. None of the other bros have island in the name. This is really bad. That's what I'm saying. Brooklyn is Kings County. It just sounds royal.

Yeah, never wanted to move to Queens, not once. I'm going to send this to the Queen's tourism. moving to Queens and I was like next they're like oh imagine your commute it would be really long you can reflect shout out also you are as mad about this as people are about bad bunny performing in the Super Bowl

I love how Queens has a city called Long Island City I'm justified I'm justified whereas those people you know me the only man who can change my mind on Queens is their greatest export Action Bronson yeah by the way you guys are spitting in the face of icon of Queens Action Bronson I'm going to send this to Action Bronson, and you guys will have hell to pay.

You guys will have a reckoning coming to you. Just simply ranked my boroughs, that's all. No, this is flat out disrespect. You're taking it as disparage. I need a, I'm going to get some kind of response from Action Bronson that we're going to play. That's my, that's my motivation at the moment. The stance is not going to change, bro. He's going to, honestly, Action Bronson might be like, yeah.

Brooklyn. He's like, I've always wanted to move to Brooklyn. It's just a little pricey. Action Brons loves Greenpoint, man. Oh, God. God, I, I'm upset. Let's move on before I get more upset. So I actually had a couple of follow-up on the kissing your mom's ass.

Oh, Frankie. You said you grabbed her legs. Like, I don't want to get involved in here, but did you spread them? Good God. Where on the ass did you hit? They're just, listen, I don't know how romantic the story is, but I feel like there's more details to tell. Also, did you have a litter in the eye again?

Did your dad say anything about it? These are all fair questions, Frank. Were you trying to grab her face to kiss her good night? Were you sleep looking? Why did you kiss your mom's ass? These are great questions by investigative journalist Oscar Willis. Thank you for... I'll leave it at this.

I no longer talk to either of my parents. Are you saying that that was the offending incident? Boys in the back, what's good. That's a good point. Big Titty McGree from Carporn City. Hey, Big Titty McGrady, shout out. Shout out to G.C. Hey, shout out, brother.

That was a tough one watching Jerry say we had to say. He didn't mean it. Anyway, he meant it. He meant it. He meant it. It is 4 a.m. Oh, shit. On the West Coast as we speak.

Big Titty, you're up. You're up early, bro. Blind rankings for you, Frankie, baby. Here we go, Frank. This one's going to be 1 through 6, so keep your hat on tight. All right. All right, best video game series, including all games inclusive

with soundtracks so the best series of soundtracks one through six here we go you ready Frankie I think so chrono trigger oh fuck one

wow we go Halo next four wow damn halo was kind of epic oh yeah super epic dance revolution it's a lot of music

We'll put that one at six Oh Castlevania That is a strong three Okay Fifth What are we got two and four Final Fantasy series

Ooh That's Sephir Roth Battle That's two What's the name of the song One week at angel Is it four or five What's left? Five

Frank's mom's ass All right I'm good Oh man Is that number two then? No it's five Bye, right. Shout out to FMLA, maybe.

Chrono, you know what? He ended up in a good spot. Chrono trigger is kind of hard. Like, not bad. You did a good blind ranking, Frank. Appreciate you, Big Tiddy, McGready. Yo, what up, boy. This is AJ calling Ben from walking Wisconsin.

Love watching your show up. So, AJ. Bro, I was just looking at these UFC picks, you know, the steamed uncrowned picks that release before every paper view. where we can track the records of all the great on-crowned staff. And I noticed that, you know, old Frankie, he picks Usas Salal, or Josh Emmett to win in those picks.

But when I'm attuned in to Thursday, my favorite show, the boys in the back, for the parlay palettes, you pick Usa Salah. That's a fucking great point. Was that a little hedge or? They're coming at you, Frankie. What the fuck's going on, man? Peace. Great call.

Great call. The investigative journalists are out. That was great. Frankie, you're on the stand, brother. He's a little hedge. All right. A little hedge, I can kind of accept that. Didn't point out that I am now back in first after a perfect weekend.

Congrats, congrats. Also, I am glad Frankie won the Parlay Pals one. Yeah, as opposed to the other one. Yeah, even though it didn't matter. I cost it because of patchy miss show. Who's in last place on that? I think he might be right, actually. Is it?

Yeah. Wait, I had a good week last week. Well, it wasn't enough. It's your guy, Matt from Nashville. Oh, what's up, Matt? I just wanted to say, it's been a long week. It's been a long month. It's been a long year.

It's been stressful. It's been just very heavy emotionally, just with the world and everything. Frank, your story about kissing your mom on the ass made me stomach laugh so hard in a way that I haven't in a very long time. and it felt feeling. And then I think, G.C., I think you said, I think your response directly after that story was you couldn't have waterboarded that out of me. Holy shit, dude. Just all around one of the funniest, like, minute and a half segments I've ever heard on your show.

Absolutely incredible. I always love your show, but that's just such a little nugget of joy that I just, was sitting in traffic, kind of ho-humming about the day, and then all of a sudden, you guys dropped his heat on me, and the funniest story of all time goes live. What the fuck? Absolutely incredible, 11 out of 10. I appreciate you guys for constantly carving away a segment of the week

to just bring joy to people and talk about fights, talk about stuff that is in fights. You guys are always positive. You guys are always a great time. You're doing a great job. and I know everyone else appreciates it, too. Y'all are crushing it. Love you guys.

Peace. Damn, what a great call from that. Not only bringing up Frank's past embarrassments, but also just a really sentimental nice call. We appreciate you, Matt. Thanks for always listening, brother. Thank you. Frank's just whispered in my ear to keep filling,

so now I'm just talking to fill the space. We're an anti-fourth wall program here. I'm going back to look up the picks because I have to confirm that I'm still in last place I think I'm the only one that had the perfect week Okay so Ben folks picked Magamette on Kalayev Okay so actually Ben and I both got one wrong Because I picked Khalil

He picked Magamad So we are still tied for last All right Frank Picked Josh Emmett and Abis Magamato So he got two wrong So Frank is actually only one ahead of us now

So I'll catch him obviously now next time we do this. Yeah. There's only what, three more pay-per-views to go? I think me and Drake are tied, but, you know, because B comes before R,

I will go first in the pecking order and I wonder if there's going to be a tie-breaker on the final paper review. Yeah, so you were one behind Drake heading in. He picked Magam-Magam-ed, so that was an L, and you had a perfect, so now you're tied. Yeah, wow, you could really,

you could do it. Be great. Be great, man, I'd be pretty hype. Is there a prize? Is there a trophy? All right, we're back. You have to ask you. Boy, boys in the back, back, back, back, back.

What is good? Your boy, Phil. Highwood. Here in the Rolling Mountains of West Virginia. Sick. Shout out the West Virginia. I had a music-related question for you all. Let's go.

I just realized that Frank, back there, is a bit of a metal head. Didn't realize he's a big tool fan. Shout out the tool. Great guys. Adam Jones, Mayor, the whole bunch. disappointed to see that he didn't know who on our shore was no big deal

just one of the biggest death core acts to pop up here recently no big deal with you and I there's what it is I guess they're just a little too heavy for friends but anyway so my main question is what are your all's favorite bands

slash genres of music? Love to hear what it is love to show shout out shout out my man before you guys answer that I have a couple of things

to respond to shout out of West Virginia shout to Phil I love the image of him through the rolling mountains of West Virginia very important the holy mountains

of West Virginia right that's what I said no rolling rolling I heard holy they are holy so for the record tool is not metal I could see how you might

want to stick them in that same kind of category and like look I don't want to get in the whole genre thing but then you brought it up again when you were talking about Lorna Shore being a death core band like i really don't fuck with metal core i will admit i have listed to lona shore now and

they are uh the production is really good a little too polished for me um but good uh the symphonic parts i could take them or leave them the technical parts i think are cool so if you're going for hardness i listened to bands like blood bath ds i bathery you know like come on acid bath we can move on from there but metal is not actually my favorite genre My favorite genre is, it really comes to, like, dark ambient or most electronic music. And some of my favorite artists other than tool would be like Pearl Jam, Radiohead. Yeah, you could go on from there. Not a big heart fan.

In fact, I'm probably the number one heart hater. Abba? No. And Billy Joel. We'll just get them all out of there. The Billy Joel and Abba hate is just like you hate fun and positivity, man. Let's have another Billy Joel hater back there. Don't we, Jordan, don't you hate Billy Joel?

Yeah, not a fan. Even from Long Island, not it. Jesus. Oh, that boy, they crushed it with that updated version of we didn't start the fire, though. But I have to say, shout out to the integrity on the cough button. I got a real bad tickle in my throat. Did you just push it? Yeah, I finally found it.

I was just over here feeling like a blind man under the table. I thought my headphone had just went out. All right, we're good. Wait, does my mic also go out? No. It's just my mic? Check, check, check. Yeah, my mic doesn't.

But my, my, my, my ability. For those joining us, Rick and Connor, learning how a mic view button works. I'm not actually pressing. You talk while he presses it. I haven't been pressing it for a while. I've just been mouthing the words. I'm pushing mine right now.

Oh, shit. Yeah, you guys not liking Billy Joel or Abba is crazy, man. I mean, that's just proper party music right there. We're here for a good time, not a long time. what I'm saying. How do you feel about Jimmy Buffett? Fucking love Jimmy Buffett, man.

Let's look the good times roll, baby. Rest and peace to a legend. Big Eagles fan? Eagles, take them or leave him. Hmm. Jimmy Buffett, though? Are you kidding me? No, I mean, I actually like Jimber in Paradise.

Rest in peace. Hey. One of my favorite memories is going to Margaritaville. Dog. For my birthday. We went to Margaritaville together. On my birthday. My birthday looks at 40.

Changes in latitude, changes in attitude. A legend, man. Shout out to J.B. Absolutely legend. People say J.B. And they're referring to Justin Bieber. I'm referring to Jimmy fucking Buffett, baby. Go.

Have you been to Jimmy Buffett's buffet? Nope. No. We should check it out. I've seen them live, though, and I've been to several Margarita Ville. Shout out, trying to collect them all across the country. Favorite genre of music? I've waned on music a little bit, but it was always hip-hop and rap.

Don't really have a favorite artist, but I've seen Young Thug like four times, seen Travis Scott like three times, future, like four or five, Drake, three or four times. We've been to a bunch of concerts. It was always hip-hop growing up. I'm a K-pop Demon Hunters guy. Not even K-pop, just K-pop. We're going up, bup. I've actually...

I haven't watched it yet, but I've watched the music video because you would always sing it. Rick, when you talk to Action later, you should be like, I'm a big K-pop Demon Hunter's fan. Another big fan. Seen him in concert a couple times, legend. I will find out if he appreciates the K-pop Demon Hunters. All right, we will take another quick break here back

with the rest of your voicemails. After this short break, don't go anywhere. All right, welcome back. We didn't finish on the music takes there, Rick, the man who doesn't listen to any music. For the record, not doesn't listen to any music. Don't have like MP3s, albums, don't consume music. But like I hear, I hear music everywhere. Like, you know, I'm not anti-music. When I choose to listen to stuff, I listen to podcasts. That's, that's what it is. The soundtrack to my life is people having conversations. And many have said, that's the sign of an insane person. Rings of Saturn getting a lot of love in the chat. Do you know who that is, Frank? Is that a ban? I would assume.

Rings of Saturn getting a lot of love. No. No, you don't know what that is? I don't know. I'd like to see a lot of love for queen. That's another thing. If I don't know a band, I'm one of those people who are like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck with him. Like, I just say straight up, no.

It doesn't mean that, like, no, it'll never check it out. Well, isn't that what happened with Lauren Ashore? Like, I went and checked it out. Like, I went and checked it out. Another close friend of mine was like, you should check out this EP instead. I went with the EP. was very thrilled with it it was a really good EP I'll listen to it again

Brennan QFG said the four rappers I listed were the worst rappers of the last decade Drake Travis Scott Young Thug Future I don't know if we're doing worst rappers of all time for the last decade I don't know if those four are coming up I think there's been a few guys that are probably

worse than them GC got the best music and taste I know but the hip-hop is shite old school is so much better I agree throwing a little big punisher Give me a little big pun. Oh, big pun. From the Bronx, I believe. Definitely not Queens.

50 cent from the Queens. Shout out. 50 cent, Jarl. All right. Shout out to Jarlal as well. L.O. Cool. All right. Boys in the back.

This is a Duke from Trent, North Carolina, originally from Lafonia, Georgia. Shout to Lithuania. Hopefully this gets through. It's hard to sit through all the amazing things and messages people send out to you all.

But I just want to say, I love y'all's passion for M.M.A, man, especially when Intermay is great. When I watch to watch along with me watching the pay-per-views, man, and seeing y'all's reaction to Uri and Polona getting those finishes, man. I had the same reaction to it, man. And, G.C., don't feel down because Uri, no soldier big time, man. That was a hampered at all. was an epic reaction. I had the same reaction. I was rolling all over

my liver room before. Freaking out. I'm glad my wife didn't wake up and kick me out the house because she would have him, definitely. But man, I just love y'all's passion. I love the show. Shout out Frank. Shout on Angie, shout out Jordan. Y'all take it easy, man.

That's all I want to say. Peace. That's from the heart right here. Peace, brother. Preece, for real. Shout out to Lithonia. Shout out to you for support. Man, we always appreciate you watching. I do have to say, man, like, MMA is such, like, it's such a niche sport that it really is one of those.

Like, you can't walk into a bar and, like, fake it till you make it type shit. Like, you can with, like, the NFL and the MLB and everything where you're just like, yeah, I know Aaron Judge. Like, real hardcore MMA fans can, like, I can spot it from a mile away based on what you're talking about within the first minute of a conversation. And that's why he was so cool with Raven yesterday.

When he starts listing all this off and you're like, oh, this guy's fucking one of us. Like, he is, he is. he is part of the brand and it takes like instantaneously you're just like this this is our fucking guy he knows what he's talking about like it's it's to the point where like if i'm talking with someone just like casually like at a party and like i'm saying like what what i do for work or whatever man if they bring up like i had one dude at a party who gave me his whole take on why dj is actually the number one goat and i was like oh shit man yeah i was like all right like you at least know like dj and stuff and like making a push for him and stuff it's like beyond the connor mcgregor and like one time a guy brought up tony ferguson to me and i was just like oh nice nice but like when you got to do bringing up Chris Gutierrez and being disappointed in his performance against Basha you're like one of our own

Ray man let's go yeah shout out man imagine that guy's wife like waking up and being like what the fuck are you doing on the floor he's rolling around all right so you actually say that another year he fight uh 2022 against Glover when he's going for the title

I am in Italy on vacation with my girlfriend at the time and she is passed out I am tuned in because it was in Singapore. It was still on an American time, though, but I'm watching Erie at, like, 645 Italian time on an I-pad on an Lue or A-M? Because the time is ahead.

I'm in bed watching it on the iPad, and, like, when he got the choke against Glover, I, like, was going Abe shit. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, first of all, the fight was crazy, so there was just moments throughout it. I was sipping something Moretti

or some kind of Italian beer in bed at 645. am watching this fight. I was just like, oh shit, like this is so crazy. And then like, when he got the choke, I was like, holy fuck, like, I can't fucking believe it. He's the champ. This is not. And she's like coming out of the stupor. She's like, what, what's going on? Like, what the hell is going on? So I feel, uh, I feel for your wife, because that can be quite confusing for wives and girlfriends. Like when you're going, when you, when you have the side effects of a Yeri Prohashka fight and you have to wake up to them. So that result in like a rule like you cannot watch it.

No, no times. I was like, Yeri won the bow. And she's like, who the fuck is you? Flash cut to that. In reacting to your reaction. Isn't she lovely? Oh, shout out. Isn't she wonderful? It's me, Mr. Minor, you know, the judge from the Hughes and Nurgamato fight. I'm just kidding.

It's your boy, Bodkins. Shout out to Bodkins. In light of the awful, awful judging from that to fight, It got me to wonder, if you guys could fix one thing in all the sports, would it be the perfect judging, perfect refereeing, perfect umpiring, or, you know, it could be even a ref in any other sport. But, yeah, y'all have the best weekend of your life. We'll catch you all later. Bodkins out. Bokkins always comes with such good energy.

He's always high. He's always high. He has high energy. I don't know if he's high. He might be high, too. Who knows? What would we be? No, what thing would you change in sports?

I have a definitive answer on this. I thought he was asking which like refereeing thing. No, no. Would you change like judging, referee? Like what's a, what's a thing you change across sports? All right, so we've seen a lot of success with tennis having the hawkeye where it's just the auto call robot, like so you don't need the line judges anymore. And there's no point in challenging.

So it keeps the game moving. You know it immediately. I've kind of loved that. Man, I guess we're both just catching it here. with the coughs and then everything you got a cough no i just had to i don't have a cough button i just had to burp there uh which tells robotic umpiring i you want it i i wouldn't mind seeing it i think it would speed the game up and it would just make things accuracy you're accurate you either hit the strike zone or you don't um and you can quickly adjust it to all batters though i would miss

there's nothing better than a good state like the nice strike three call is is great or a nice ball call but yeah I mean that would be a be a quick one to fix you guys gave

blazing hot terrible takes about the Burroughs rankings I have a hot take that I do not

think will be popular okay Bodkins talked about like perfect refereeing perfect judging

I would advocate for imperfection I want to see less perfection oh okay I am

anti-analytics I am anti-homagony across sports. If you even think about making a new formula for sports, I want you eliminated. There should be no statistics, advanced statistics, there should be no stat revolution. There should be no advanced statistics that lead to exact same outcomes in all of sports. It has ruined sports for me. There is no magic. There is no mystery.

There is no romance in sports anymore. And I blame the stats revolution for that. Advanced stats, out, gone. If you even think about making a new advanced stat, gone. All right, so I actually agree with you, especially in American football, when a guy makes a catch in real time and you're just like, dude, that was a catch. And then you see it on replay and like, you're like, that is a catch. And then they're talking about how, like, as he's going to the ground, it moves a centimeter

as he's falling and they find a reason to call it no catch. Like, that's where I'm just like, this was a catch. If you're in the backyard, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, 20 years ago like it's a catch like give me a break here uh yeah i'm i'm with you on like the reviewing down to a tea and like it's ruined sports sometimes with soccer it's like they get the lasers out for the on side and the guys like the guy's like pinky toe is offside it's like come on i would rather things matter i would rather there be an air of mystery i would rather there be something kind of like up for grabs and potentially get it wrong then get it to this point that

everything is exact science right every team plays exactly the same way in the NBA now because they have these advanced stats that say you're supposed to shoot this many threes and now they all play exactly the same style it's horrible it has produced the worst possible sports and it's like every team goes for two every team does this in football it's all the same baseball has been overly um statted to the point that every team is exactly the same it's boring sports have become boring because of the fact that everybody's moving toward the exact same outcomes. There used to be, like, characters. There used to be, I feel the same way about MMA, right? The meta has kind of become the same. It was much better when we didn't have

these things. If you, if you even think about making a new stat, advanced that, you're gone. Get out. Done. Cross says bring out the laser measurement on nut shots. Nothing. Zero. The referee got it wrong. Tough shit. That's it. Call it on the field. Rick is going to banish you to Antarctica if you make a new advanced that that's it you're done you're cooked to these guys they'll banish you to Queens according to them hey shout out

did Frank uh pass out back there no what's wrong Frank you're doing all right man doing great man we're ready to move on man is still talking about Queens or what what's up boys in the back it's Nico

oh what's up next from Miami this is bro who had the you guys giving me uh oh yes I do think things will be okay I know they'll be okay Pull it

Pull my parents That I fucked up And uh You're pissed Good to know They're riding with me No matter what Of course

I really appreciate The advice on Sometimes you think Things are gonna be Worse than they are Just focusing on What I can control now And uh

Really appreciate you guys Are you at the top Hey See you at the top Now it's over Now you don't have to worry about it And it wasn't as bad as he thought And now we move on

And it's It puts into perspective It's nice to know that your parents will rock with you no matter 100%. Your parents are real ones. Oh, Frank really did fall asleep. What's up, boys? It's Keith calling from Canada.

Key! I love the show. I've been sitting on this one for a couple weeks now. Just listening to you guys chat. And I got to say, how do you guys feel about the Con McGregor saying, as it relates to how your country looks to the rest of the world

like this is a guy who is by all accounts reprehensible as a person you know legally liable of S.A wasn't so long ago Pizzi was on the show breaking that down well not your show but you know the more important one

Wow easy bro it seems so crazy to have a carrot dangled in front of the MMA world and everyone's just like oh yes Connor come back please come back no matter what you've done no matter what you represent we're going to glorify you in front of our national parliament uh on the day celebrating our

independence or at least associated with it oh to me that's wild uh yeah wow i know this is like not the tone of normal voicemails but uh it sometimes you've got to be challenged and i'm curious to hear your thoughts as Americans. How do you feel about it? Does it even register? Yeah. And GC, I'm with you on the 60-second showers. Hey, shout out, brother.

Maybe a brother involved. No, we appreciate the call. I thought you were going at it from the perspective of Ireland. You're referring to America and Connor McGregor potentially being on the White House card. Giving him that big position on, like, American independence. I was like, hey, here's the guy. Yeah. An unfortunate fact of our world today of society is that being a celebrity, having fame and

power and money makes these horrible things that someone does excusable to a lot of the world. It makes it to where they're going to be able to do essentially whatever they want. Like he holds this star power. He would bring so many eyes to the card. He would generate so much money for the UFC that most people are willing to. look the other way for it and aren't going to be like well you know it's it's because of this and that it's they are much more focused on well he's going to generate a shit ton of money and he's

going to bring a ton of eyes to it so whatever we'll look the other way on this other stuff yeah and it's important to note that like there are dissenting voices right it is not a singular of course like we hear criticism of connor mcgregor all the time on this front and and in fact many people have expressed that criticism i don't think this is like a a universal opinion that like this ideas like, yes, Conner should have these opportunities and be in this spot. I don't think that's like a unified thought across the sport. There's also an important distinction between like, especially when it comes to media, right? I think there's a misunderstanding of the difference between promotion and coverage. Media's job is not to promote. Media's job is to cover,

right? So by covering the idea that Connor McGregor is going to be on this White House card, that is a responsibility that media has. If that becomes reality, if that ultimately happens, that will be a significant event for this sport in particular and for the media landscape and to cover. The idea of promotion is not the media's job, right? The media's job is the coverage part. The UFC is the one who decides to promote or fans decide to engage with and things like that.

They ultimately have choices. Do I want to engage with something that Connor McGregor or anybody else, right? It doesn't have to be specific to Connor. If I disagree with them, do I want to ultimately give them my attention, my money, my, you know, whatever, whatever the currency is in that regard. and they have those choices to make. So I don't think there's like a universal thought when it comes to this. There are definitely people out there that are not going to support the idea of Connor McGregor on their card.

There are definitely people that might tune out due to that perspective. And I think we just have to acknowledge all of those. And in the coverage, right, as I was talking about media coverage, it's important to note these things, right? I don't think there will be an article that comes out around Connor McGregor headline in that card that might not mention the assault trial in Ireland. And so it's all that. It's about being responsible as journalists. It's about as a fan and a consumer deciding what you want to give your money toward. But I don't think there's unified thought across the board on that. So yeah, that's my position. And I don't think it's as simple as just like everybody wants Connor to fight. I don't think that that's ultimately true. And I know that it is not ultimately true. The voices online are loud against John McGregor, even returning to the UFC at all. Not only because of these allegations against them, and the court cases that he's been involved with, but also because he hasn't fought in four years. We haven't seen him in the octagon.

And Connor McGregor isn't the only example of this. People always bring up Mike Tyson, Kobe Bryant. Like, I mean, Alexander Zverev is on the ATP tour, and he's had several domestic violence cases against him as well. Like, there are athletes that this happens to all the time. Carter McGregor, obviously, as big as like a Mike Tyson and a Kobe Bryant level. And he is in our world. This is not something new, this example of having this massive,

spotlight on you and you being able to continue your life as opposed to a civilian gets charged with this that essentially ends their life right then and there. Yeah. Yeah. They're operating by a different set of rules, but also like, yeah, there may be a point where the economics of that don't make sense. But at the moment, it seems like the UFC is pushing forward. But I hope that explains, clarifies, or anything else. And I don't think you're wrong to have that point of view to question as well. And we appreciate the call. I did want to clarify more important show. Is he referring to the crack or I think the Hawaii show, but who? I think the crack. I think the crack. Yeah. So boys, shout out to you from Nashville, Tennessee.

I'm expecting a baby girl here in February and I'm a first-time dad. My question to you guys was, as someone that does MMA, Jiu-Jitsu sort of thing, Eric, how important is it to toughen girls up, baby girls, and to Connor, someone that plays golf. Oh, interesting. Oh, did we lose them?

Oh, is that the whole voicemail? Is that it? So, someone that plays golf. Yeah, that's it. All right. I'm someone who plays golf. For my part, it's not about, like, tough. softening girls up, it's about equipping them for life, right?

Equipping them to be able to take care of themselves, defend themselves, build their confidence and things like that. Also, obviously, I'm connected to it through this space. And so I want my girls in that and I'm going to put my boy, Logan, as well, into it for those reasons that I said, right? It's the confidence. It's the discipline. It's the learning to how to take care of yourself and defend yourself.

It's not necessarily like tough or not tough. I'm not really looking at it that way. I'd actually Andy I'd be curious of your perspective in terms of that of putting them in in just like idea of like women right protecting women and them taking self-defense jiu-jitsu stuff like that I think it's always worth it I mean I wish that I had learned it before college right because we we had like classes in college and then we did in some other like places that I worked at I wish that when I was younger I had done it just in case granted I also grew up in a very dangerous country so like we should have definitely

been taught any of those things um but i think to your point of like the discipline and the um just like although i feel like any yeah any any after school activity helps with that i think like my kids and dance and that helps a ton with discipline and it helps a ton with getting energy out and expressing yourself so i think there's value to it no matter what it is um but to your point if it comes to like teaching us how to protect ourselves 1,000% I think it's worth it. Yeah. So get them in if that's the route you want to go.

But to Andy's point, like just getting them active intactivities is always going to be good. But for the self-defense, like I'm super happy that they're taking judo and jujitsu right now. So boys. Oh, what about Jesus golf? Keep going. I play golf.

Nashville, Tennessee. I just had a quick question I think this might be the same one I'm expecting a baby girl Oh maybe this is the one And I had a question for Eric All right we can move on We're good

Go go to the end of it Yeah skip ahead to the golf All these days man I'm looking forward to hearing your answers For you I'm looking forward to hearing your answers Thank you for getting me Through all these days man

Yeah Respect We appreciate for that. Thank you so much. Frank, Frank fucked you there. I'm sorry, man. My boys, Vince, from Long Beach, California.

What's up, Vince? Something's gone from a toilet. I'm curious if you know how kids are actually scoring during the fight. I know they'll have to turn in their scorecard at the end of each round. But I'm curious during the round and a lot can happen in five minutes, how are they actually scoring it? Is this just a gut instinct thing at the end of the round? They're like, ah, that guy won or this guy won?

Are they going off vibes? Are they keeping a little tally on a sheet of paper in front of them? They obviously can't look down because they'd be missing something. So I'm curious how it is they're physically scoring each round. Possibly they get an electronic readout. of the stats, and then combine that with their gut instinct, or what? I'm very curious, and I've never heard an answer on this one, so I appreciate if you guys have any insight.

Yeah. All right. Thank you. All right. We're not professional judges, but how do you score rounds? Well, I'll tell you one thing. MMA fans definitely think they go on vibes, right? MMA fans definitely think it's just like...

I think they have a, they're holding a pencil with a piece of paper, and, like, as they're scoring it for one guy, they let it slide, and then they're like, uh... If it goes really far to one side, it's a 10-8. And that's just how they actually score it. There's a criteria. There is. There is. There's a criteria in their head, right?

But they can't be like jotting, like he said, like you can't be jotting down notes and they don't get stats for it. Let's say what's supposed to happen, and then we can say what we think is happening. So what's supposed to happen is there is a very clear judging criteria, right? For sure. Maybe very clear is an overstep. There is an established judging criteria that they are supposed to judge the fight based on these things and then prioritized in this order, right?

We hear over and over that damage is the most significant judging criteria and they're supposed to follow from there, right? Effective grappling, octagon control. They actually talk about this on the UFC broadcast at the start of many of the events. They talk about what the judges are looking for. They're supposed to go by that criteria and then they're supposed to judge accordingly based to that criteria what they're seeing in each round of the fight. I do think there is some leeway to take some notes and count some stats and do those some things. I can't say, I believe I've heard before that there are some jurisdictions where they do get some kind of stat. Maybe not.

I'm not actually 100% sure. But the way it is supposed to work is they are supposed to utilize that criteria to come to a conclusion based on who won the round, of who won the round based on that criteria. So that's what's supposed to happen. What actually happens, sometimes it feels like there's. not really going by the criteria that's been established, right? 50-45 in the Usman-Hughes fight does not feel to me like those rounds were judged against the same criteria as somebody who might have had it 48-47 for Usman or even 48-47 for Hughes. But, you know, this would require, in order to fine-tune this, this would require some kind of accountability and answering for why we have

scorecards this way and things like that. But that's what's supposed to happen. It's also do some judges have their own their own criteria their own criteria but I would imagine they're sitting there and they just watch it for five minutes and then they jot down who they think won

the same way I do I'm looking at it that's what I was going to say how do you judge this guy I'm prioritizing the damage and I'm thinking about the next steps and maybe you could jot down some notes of like

maybe they have like a notepad and like some chicken scratch of just like because like sometimes it's hard not to be playing with recency bias of just like at the end of the round if some guy's looking stronger. So you want to remember if a dude landed

a stiff right hand with like four and a half minutes to go. Yeah, you want to know what happened early in the round. Certainly that would be helpful to kind of indicate that. There's also that myth, right, of like, oh, it's good to end the round on top and landing those punches and stuff. But like you can do your work early and it's worth exactly the same.

Right, but I don't even know how much of it is a myth because I do think sometimes people just support because of the way it ends. I feel like I'm getting better at judging fights. Yeah, but the problem is we don't know, right? You're saying, like, maybe it isn't a myth. We don't know ultimately because they never have to explain. They never have to kind of answer that.

Do the judges get to hear what the other people scored before they announced them? They submit their cards. Okay. So do you think that they're like, like, when you take a test, you're like, God, I hope I got this the same as everyone else? No, I think they just have to do it to the best of their ability. also like we've talked a lot about open scoring over the years but like could you imagine open scoring and it was and it's hughes nirmagamedov going into that fourth round and i believe hues is already lost yeah well i believe what did i score two three and five for hughes yes

yeah imagine you're going into the fourth round and it's like 3027 nirmagamatov 29 28 nirmatov 29 28 nirmatov like you're just like fuck like are you serious how did none of these been scored for me Yeah, because the round that, no, what round did the 49-46 judge score for Hughes? Was it four? I can't. Five? I don't know. Regardless, it's-

Heading into the fifth, you're already done. Yeah, you're going into the fifth round and it's like 40 or 39-37. Meanwhile, a lot of us had it tied. Yeah, 40-36. He gave him the fifth. So it was 40-36 on all three judges' scorecards? No, no. One judge gave him an earlier round.

The guy who had a 48-47 was my mind. gave him an earlier round. But heading into the fifth, he has already lost unless he gets a finish. So it's kind of crazy stuff. I feel like that wouldn't be beneficial. Because then remember his reaction

to the scorecards, like, then he's looking around. Like, are you kidding me? Much like my anti-advanced stats, I don't want to see open scoring. I just want it to be scored at the end and let me find out.

And when Bruce Buffer reads it or shout-out Joe Martinez reads it, I want to know what it is. All right. going on boys it's harry connegan from all long island what's up here i'm about three hours in on the previous episode and uh can't really come up with the question i missed you guys last week i wanted to come up with something uh fun and interesting for this week's and so far no inspiration from the prior episode quite a shame this is the best i got um yeah it's a bit out of left field um this is for everyone

Have any of you ever kissed your mom on the ass? All right, thanks, see you. That's that one, Harry. I have not. Anybody in the back? I think maybe once before. I can't recall. That was a good one, Harry.

Thanks, man. What's up, boys? This is DJ calling again. What's up, DJ? Not the glazed caller this time. I just, I literally just finished listening to this last week's episode. and I'm calling you I had to pause it to call you

because I had to pull my truck over laughing so hard and Frank telling the story of kissing his mom's ass and Connor just going I'm fucking crying laughing I just wanted to say that's the crate

you can't tell people that dog you gotta keep that one take that one to the grave Oh there's no keeping it in the family now All right love you boys Love you too brother Yeah no keeping it in the grave now

No keeping it in the grave now I've told that story for 20 years. Oh, God. No one's had the reaction we did? No. Now that you put it on wax. I think your guy's idea of kissing an ass is different than what happened. Well, I mean, Oscar Willis asked you for answers and you just moved on. It's just like

the fact that his mind went to, he's got to wait for the ASMR channel. What's up, boys? Danny from Charlotte, I called last week and I was asking Rick to clarify his stance on Tank and Jake. And thanks to his very astute reminder to go rewatch, I realized

at one Cheevera would say What the fuck is going on, bro? Because I definitely remembered Floyd doing better. But that being said, I've dropped a sizable wager on Mr. Jake Paul. Oh. Knockout said a little bit of David because I think Rick is spot on. Oh, wow.

That's a smart man right there. Man, my voicemail was way too fucking last week, guys. Sorry, need to hit the Benjamin more before I make the call. No, less. Less Benjamin. Need to hit the Benjamin more before I make the call

Frank sweet love you both and GC Paperview boys in the back are by far my favorite

because we get Fight Chief and the real ones love fight Feet my guy shout out Frank

Andy everybody in the back y'all have the best great call great call that's a great one check fight fees over 10K shout out hey

joining Rareified air joining RARifite air hey boy's in the back it's Bougiel What's up Hoosie? I was just wondering, well, I had a little content idea for you guys after watching Dan Hooker's interview. It's more for Rick, actually.

All right, fuck me. I think the boys in the back should take the crew to New Zealand for Christmas and try fighting and Dan Hooker's one-dress crap. Try fighting? Covering I was with you. And, you know, you guys could go out there, film some content. Yes. What are the reasons for, boy? Dan and the McLei's and, you know.

Oscar Willis. I don't Oscar. And getting a little one-minute scrap. You keep saying fun content. Yeah. Fun for who? But I thought it was a fun idea. It's a fun idea.

It's a fun idea. Rick getting bludgeoned in one-minute scraps in New Zealand and then having to go to the hospital and then waking up delirious after we drugged him and we're taking him on a Lord of the Rings to her. It does not sound like his idea of a good Christmas. I get knocked out and I wake up. Yeah.

We're just wheelchairs. Where am I? We're going to see the orcs. So I'm asleep for eight hours and then I'm asleep for eight hours again on that Lord of the Rings store. Shout to New Zealand though. Yeah, that's a hard, really hard.

pass, the hardest of passes. Have you watched the videos of the one-minute scraps? These dudes are killing each other. Hard pass. One-minute scraps is cool. They're also fighters, too. These aren't just guys off the street. These are dudes that have fought. Some, but they're like, a lot of times they've kind of like fought. This next one that he's doing that he's asking us to go to is they're calling it the King of the KOs. And Dan Hooker was like, you have to have fought and you have to have gotten KOs. Yeah. I'll pass. Pass. I don't, I don't have a good enough health insurance to go to a hospital in New Zealand. Did that one strike a nerve there, Frankie?

What's up, boys? In the back. I usually call and cry because you didn't play my last voicemail. Oh, Appleton. But I'm just calling out. Loveticus. This is Leviticus Appleton, Savannah, Georgia. Showed out.

I need a favor. Now you need a favor. Let me soften you up first. Okay, but this is genuine. Okay. I've been following Ariel for 11 years. Rick, you've been by aside, obviously. for pretty much that whole amount of time so you can see you react to my humor when you listen

to my voicemail a couple weeks ago it's honestly like surreal for me uh yeah i'm just a really i'm a big fan of you guys and i even made a video defending ariel from all the unwarranted hate uh in twenty twenty three it's called if you hate ariel hawani you are a casual and it kind of pissed off my little audience I built but that's fine I just quit I just quit YouTube because being an MMA YouTuber

it's tough it's tough you gotta be an asshole I found him shed show anyway GC you discovered my IMDB which I didn't even really know about because I am terrible at networking and all the online stuff

legend woke that thing up man but yeah I don't do any of that stuff but yeah I am in Bridehart with Rebel Wilson. I'm in a lot more stuff than what was on there, from what I could tell, because I am, in fact, an actor. Or you could say I'm a starving artist, but starving artist is becoming a little too literal. It's super tough. So if anyone listening means a voice actor or a character actor, please look me up. My name is Leviticus Appleton. You can contact my agency, Coastal Talent, based in South Carolina, or You can contact me directly, Leviticus Appleton at Gmail. Unbelievable, man. And letting me say that on the show was the favor. So I hope you guys played this.

Because if you did it, I will never, never. Holy kids. Just kidding. All right. Thank you. Just subscribe to Shed show on YouTube, even though he said he quit. You quit. Shout out to Leviticus.

Hopefully you get some of me That's a booking I appreciate that man I hope you do I'm a big IMDB page is good man I'm a big IMDB Everyone's all in on What's the ranking site

Movie phone No Rotten tomato No No other one Letterbox Oh Letterbox yeah

Yeah I'm just an I'm just an IMDB Guy through it He's in Bridehart With Rebel Wilson Shout out Shut out What I guess doing things

You know I have to admit a secret When it comes IMDB Sometimes it's like a movie's like An 83 or something And I watch it I'm like that's an 83

That's like a 71 I'll go on and give it a one star just to bring down the average. Oh, Jesus, it's dirty, it's sociopathic. No, no, no. You're like, I need to. You're trying to create justice. If I give it a seven, it doesn't get touched.

If I give it a one, now we start bringing it down a little bit. You believe in justice. I'm a one or ten guy. That's the only, if you go on my IMDB reviews, it's only ones or tens, because then I watch a movie and I'm like a six point seven. That's not a six point seven. That's like a seven point eight.

Oh, you're trying to give it a ten and you bring it up. on that same line sometimes I go to Amazon and like look up one of my favorite albums even like tool or a good movie sort by lowest rating and read everyone's shit reviews and it emboldens me

wow to do what I don't know I'm also a one or a five or Google reviewer I'm either going on to leave all or nothing what am I going to do a lukewarm take no I'm either going to write a poetic masterpiece about why your store or rest of

restaurant or bar or whatever is the greatest thing I've ever experienced. Shout out to Zen Shah and Daryana. I think that was the last one I've left. I've only left like three or four. But every time I leave it, it is eloquent. Or? It is beautiful. Or it is a one-star review with pictorial evidence shitting on the place.

Those are the only two that I ever do. I've only left like seven Google reviews my whole life. Fives or ones? Fives or ones. And I think it's like five, fives, and two ones. Shout out. Found a cockroach in my meal one time in Brooklyn. Great.

Is that a one or a five? Extra protein. What's up, boys? Double D, D, double M. Hey! weekend in MMA at the PSL

championship series. And listen, I know what everyone's thinking. Are we going to talk about the refereeing? Yes. Are we going to talk about the judging? Oh, good.

I love this. But I think the most important thing to remember in all of this is the important of free speech okay okay uh that topic brings up a lot of different things okay in the world a lot of unpopular things being said um but i want to focus on a couple unpopular things that were said in the smart cage this weekend where is this going okay some of them are he didn't foul you keep going uh i top the fight obey my commands at all times you know if you want to say those

things in certain contexts some people might think you're disgusting human being and that's okay and i defend your right to say those things um you know brian minner said uh words like 5045 and a lot of people would think brian minner you're disgusting human being for saying those words in this context but whether or not you feel that way i believe in his right to say these things I believe in the rights of Keith Peterson to say these things. And we got to defend them. You know, that's what this is all about. That's what let us, you know, have these great events like we did this past weekend.

And, of course, coming up, taking a week off and then going to be PSL Africa, resuming. Hope to see Francis there. And check it all out on the PSL app. Now, Frank, what are you playing these days? I know you're not an Xbox guy. I'm not going to stop trying to sell you on it, but I am curious. I know you can mostly play on PC. What are you playing?

And GC, you know, I'm asking on behalf of my literary friend, Don Martin, what are you reading? It sounded like you finished up the last book. He noted that down. He recommended and curious. He told me he just started The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pinchons, which, you know, he's very excited about. I don't know a thing about that. But take care. Take it easy.

you next time thank you guys god don davis absolute legend he made a point there about the importance of free speech you know it was a good point kept going uh legend uh what am i reading right now just finished the measure uh i think i did i explain this on the show it's like it yeah everyone gets the yeah the box dropped off and it tells you how long you're gonna live oh yes yes yes that was a nice fiction uh i'm doing nonfiction now uh much more serious uh man's search for meaning from a guy who survived a concentration camp during the holiday. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's...

A little light reading? Yeah, not quite light, but yeah, it's one that's been recommended to me a few times. So, yeah, it's a short read. It's like 150 pages. I'll be done with it by the weekends out. So, yeah, yeah. Switch trajectory is that. Sounds like John Martin can...

Come on, Johnny. Come on. Double D. I have been playing Hades. It's a little rogue light game that I don't unusually play. those genres, but this one was pretty addictive. What is Rogue Light? Sorry. So there's an old, like, PC game, I want to say, or called Rogue, where everything was basically had to do a run. Like, you try to go as far as you can, and then if you die,

you have to do it again. And, like, the stage was completely randomly generated. So a Rogue Light does that same concept, but there are things that you acquire on one run that carry on to the next. Oh, Rogue Light is a style of game. It was like Maze Runner or But it got super hot. Okay. So there's Rogue Lights and then there's Rogue Likes, which are like they try to stay more to that original. Where you don't carry over anything. Correct.

You got it switched to yet? Yeah. Did you get the Donkey Kong game? Yeah. Is he sick? Can I? Haven't played it? By the way, Frank?

Saving it for a rainy day. It was a gift. The same shit. Okay, I got you tears of the kingdom. You just started it. How many years after the fact? I ran through Breath of the Wild. It took me like eight months.

I respect that. Yeah. hundred hours of gameplay and it's look at that the gift that keeps on giving this is the kingdom essentially this a continuation of the best birthday present you've ever gotten from a co-worker yeah yeah all right i haven't gotten any birthday presents from co-workers it's like tough man it's like it's like being excited about queens being number four you know i get you uh speaking of guests frank donated to my girls my family the uh the old switch he gave it oh shit that's legendary um i did that confident that's sick mensch move that's sick uh

I just got to say Frank hit in the Who Me after Ariel ran out after Ariel said GC's gay roommate

all time drop hit in a serious Frank levels beyond this man is hilarious you hit that Frank I love sometimes that you guys don't respond

I'm like I wonder if anyone heard that I definitely didn't hear that the GC's gay roommate also was just a hilarious roommate. I mean a hilarious nickname. That and also G.C.'s doorman a few weeks ago. Shit's good.

The lore is expanding. But yeah, Frank's been on his shit. You were saying, I'm sorry. I said you've been very good, Frank, on the drops. Wow, thanks. It's Don. It's Donald. Many people are talking about the card on my birthday. My birthday is the best birthday, I'd say.

I'm looking forward to John Jones versus Poe action. Po Atton. That's my friend. Po Atten. I love Poetton. Best thing to come out of Brazil, I'd say at least. I want to see Joe Piper, that Joe Bodies Piper. Where's Joe?

Joe's not sleepy. He's not sleepy, Joe. Sure. I want him in the relationship with him and his father. We'll put there on Joe Piper's father. There's many things that can be done for this card. Connor, you're not getting those either. getting those visas you're not getting them not a hundred of them we'll do 50 we'll do 50

because I love the people of Ireland the people of Ireland loved me they still love me this impression is like anyways good enough first to know it's Trump just wanted to say hi don't good enough first to like I don't want to talk to him I don't want him or his business have all done this card not on my lawn not for my birthday bye All right, thanks, Donald. That's how you said. That really was. It was like, good enough for us to know it's Trump, not good enough for it to be like, wow, this is a great Donald Trump impression.

How about him referencing Don Davis, too? He's like, Don't bring your car here. Shout out, shout out. I also want to say, breaking news, ESPNMMM. Reporting Charles Oliver has announced that he's changing his nickname from two Bronx to the Predator for your studio. A new era has begun. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Okay. Let me just say something. There's a chance.

ESPN MMMA is, let me say this kindly. It is not what it used to be under the New York Rick, Tessa Hirsch era. I have a feeling this is just a, they saw this going viral with the aggregators and are copying that. I don't think this is like actual like reporting. There's no article attached to it, right? No. Yeah, I think this is probably that. Graphic.

Predator. Yeah. And Oliver's picture. I remember this morning I said that's going to be the pick. Oh, man. Predator. Freditor. Charles Olivera.

Jesus Christ. I have a, like, I don't think any of us actually know if he's really like sticking to this. Like obviously it's part of a promotion. No, after I saw the Instagram post, it's definitely just a promotional thing. But it's, it's, like, I have a, like, I have a promotional thing. I mean, it wouldn't be crazy if for one fight he did it as like, yo, you guys pay me a lot of money. Yes, I think he's going to go by, he's going to go by Predator this weekend.

So you think you actually will. Yeah. For the one fight. Yep, I think he got paid a shit ton of money for this. What the fuck is that? Thanks, Praterer. The real. Boys in the back is the guy who proposed the other week, but I don't want to talk about it.

What? I've called in for one reason and one reason only. No, fuck that. You've got to talk to. What are you talking about? How do you guys hear what he's saying? while you talk over. I talk over people all the time.

I like a conversation. If either any of you watched, the incredible fight of the year contender between Adrian Luna Martinetti and Mark Belvedon on Dana White's Contender series, by God, that was a freaking war, man. It was incredible. That's all.

Just talk about it. I love you. I'll call back later with the proposal details. Goodbye. It was fake. It was fake. We never heard about it. We never saw any pictures.

Two weeks later, and he's asking about contender series? We got duped. We got duped. Wait, is it three weeks? When did we have Allen's studio? Was that two weeks ago or three weeks ago?

Two and a half weeks ago? Yeah. Something like that. No good. No good. Congratulations. You duped us. Won't happen again.

Yeah, we got duped. Yes, I did watch the fight. Rewatched it as well. UFC dropping it on their YouTube channel saying, The Greatest Fight of All Time. That's the title of you. YouTube video. It was very

entertaining. It was a very good fight. The greatest fight of all time I heard. I feel like Frank right now a little bit of the hipster take of like

incredible fight. It's getting gassed up like real hard. The greatest fight of all time? How could the greatest fight of all time have no stakes? I don't think it was the greatest fight of all time.

I thought it was a very entertaining fight. It was a bar and burning. It was awesome. Yeah. It was awesome. Is it the best fight of the month? It is the best fight of the year?

It will definitely be in the discussion for Friday of the year. You haven't watched it yet? No. Oh, you've got to go watch it. It's 16 minute YouTube video. It's great. You should go watch it. You should go watch it. It's very, very entertaining. It's very interesting. Fight of the year? Scrap. It could be fight of the year, dude. Hughes was my one? Dude, these guys unload the clip a lot over the course of the three rounds. I'll check out. Easily, easily, easily best contender series fight of all time. Easily. I'll lock in. It's going to be on the short list for Friday the year. I thought you would watch it. Yeah,

you got to watch it. That and John Pork may have been the best week of... Shout out to John Pork. out to John Pork. Do we mess up not making the thumbnail John Pork? Yes. John Pork arrives. That should have been the thumbnail. My bad. Hey, boys in the back. You said, boy, Sammy from Sweden.

Sammy. What's up, Sammy? I'd want to get a thought on Max Holloway if we think we're going to see him fire in Hawaii. The governor has plans to host an event or the stadium opening 2029 maybe how max had away has retired by then but do you think he should be involved in that event if they have it like as ambassador or maybe even puts the belt around the

champion getting involved in that but do we see him fight and who do you think he should fight next i mean his last fight he lost he lost to illipoli but i wasn't there's no shame in alluding to Ily, I think do you think Max still got what it takes to um still got it in and to be a tramp again I still, I started

to get your thoughts. Have a great show guys. Take care. Bye. Shout out Sammy. Shout out Sammy. Uh, yeah, I mean, if if the UFC goes to Hawaii has to be on the card, he has to be the headliner, it's a no-brainer, absolutely where he's at in his career as well. Like, we're asking who's next of

155 and like a lot of the talk is about Gaichi or Patty and everything like that. Honestly to me it makes the Gaichi thing seem even more ridiculous just because Max Holloway beat him 16 months ago. Yeah. 17 months ago I know he lost the L.A. Teporia

but like nice one over Justin Porier, he is absolutely a contender at 155. A title fight in Hawaii would be unbelievable. If this Hawaii thing and I've been very pessimistic about the Hawaii card, because you know how you've been like, if

they go to Spain, you're going no matter what? Yeah. This is my one declarative that I mean with 100% of my soul. If the UFC does an event in Hawaii, I will be there. 100%. There's no doubt in my mind. I could potentially add that to my list. Yeah, I'm there. I'm there 100%. I think right

now my list would be top three. If they announce they're going, Spain, I'm there. Yeah. I think I return to Ireland, I would go. I would absolutely go. Because you'd have to assume it's Connor. Yeah, and then Hawaii. If Hawaii happens, I will be there. That's my one.

There's one on my list, and if it happens, I'll be there. I've been very pessimistic about it because tourism board has not wanted to pony up. Max Holloway posting on social that Dana's coming out or supporting rebuilding of certain areas of Hawaii, maybe momentum going toward it. I'm starting to get a little more. Look, man, you don't have to do it multiple times. I know. It's just, as we heard from Mark Shapiro and we hear all the time, you have to pay. No, I know.

An insane amount of money You pay up To get it Pay up once In Hawaii Like when Bellator would go The ticket prices are just so low It's not an area

Where you can guarantee You have Max Holloway As you said He's still as good as ever Right Like he's still a guy that you can You have to have Max Holloway To be able to do it

If you do this in the next five years I don't care if Max Holloway has been retired for two at that point You must have Max Holloway as the headline Like the BJ Penn era Is way over Like that ain't happening

You're not making a comeback to this one I mean God, you know, God bless B.J. Penn and his family. Whatever. Oh. Max Holloway has to be the headliner. Like, there's no alternative. You're not going to sell out. Like, the thing that's been discussed is Aloha Stadium. That's a college football stadium. That is like, you're not talking a small amount of seats and you're not talking a small amount of money. That's why it's always been difficult to kind of get the economics

of this working correctly. Also, an island, right? You're not getting as much quick fly traffic as you would, or people driving in from other states. It's a very difficult thing to make the economics of it work. You cannot sell that without Max Holloway. And so Max Holloway has to be headlining. Even if this is happening years down the line, you bring Max Holloway back because that's what's going to get it done. I would love it.

I would freaking love it, man. I will add in one more, just a nice wild card of one that I would be at. Outside the states, insanely random. new spot like what like if they went to like maybe they've been there before like if they went to like oslo or something it's just like all right yeah i'll go yeah like somewhere like really real random they went to italy for the first time like there's no like rumors of that but i would go yeah they've never have they never yeah they've never been to it um georgian card i'd be there for the more random the better yeah japan oh that's definitely they've been they've been they've been

I'm there. That's actually the top three. Updated. Spain, Hawaii, Japan. Yeah, Hawaii is my golden goose. He's sick. I don't think that's the right term. All right. That was all the voice. Any super chat, brother. Thanks to everyone who called in. We appreciate it more than you guys know. Well, I hope you appreciate this super chat. Crazy to see how comfortable you two have gotten in front of the camera. Watched your first episode the other day in New York Rick's comfort leveled up. Hey, shout out. That's what they call them. Comfort Rick. Comfy. Khalil versus Magamud

and then do Yuri versus Carlos. Both off wins for vacant light heavyweight. Yeah. I think we literally said that same thing. I'm super down for that. I'm super down for that. Yeah. I owe one minute scrap spin. Boys in the Pack mailman collab. It's a

must. It's right there. Make it happen. At the same time, uncrowned dock of one minute scrap dock. It's a win-win. Ideas on the house. No charge. just a shout-out Elver Galarga

you're a fucking genius This is starting to Uncrowned X Dan Hooker One minute scraps But it can only be mailmen Oh yeah Would Dan be

I think Dan would be open to it I think if we approached him properly We had a roster Ready to go And just said Dan we want your branding on this We want the one minute scraps Stamp of approval On these mailmen

The doctor as well I mean, he did convicts. Why couldn't he do postal men? I know, but the problem is we're going to have the expense to get these mailmen in to New Zealand is going to be a lot. Like, we're going to have to figure it out. We mail the mailman? Yes. We could start with just the New Zealand Postal Service.

Is there enough mailmen that want to throw down? Maybe in New Zealand, actually. NZ Post. Shout out. All right, maybe we start building local. Let's see if there's enough mailman. Wow, NZ Post is kind of cool looking Orange, orange and blue trucks

No, I got to look. Fucking out, shout out to New Zealand. A group of Hobbits to carry them over. Yo, shout out, shout out, that's a genius idea, especially in the uncrowned Docs era. Wow. I love it. Wheels are turning back here. Mailman, one minute. 24 inch doves. All the burrows

are cheeks. Go Dodgers. Ah, shut the, all the burrows are cheeks, go Dodgers. He's rooting against the Phillies? yeah i don't i don't get that because the the yanks are already out i saw he put in the chat that he's a he's just a muki betts fan so you know he's still going to mucky bets your organization him wrong they threw him out like dirty trash the you're a red sox fan

yeah shout out muki blaylock hi boys shout out from costa rica four-year listener first chat if you could pick a top 15 and get a hundred bucks per second survived who would have be see you at the top oh my god it's a great question definitely fly with chat shout out to costa rica um oh but do we have to go at our actual weight um i am going with uh i will go with uh i will go with uh this is tough i'll go with tisha pennington oh come on i'm going number 13th ranked straw weight oh man and and the game plan would be push kicks and a lot of a lot of just moving back up i have to go all 15 was that the stipulation just top 15

top 15 oh every second survived they get 100 plus man i'm not going to survive very long because i'm going to get tapped out so quick no that's why you just stick and move i'm also going flyway but also i'm obviously going gender aligned he never he never specified yeah i'm going tisha pennington god there's really a great answer here that's the final answer here that's the To gear? Do I go to gear To gear we'll tap you quick, yeah I'm gonna be running a lot

You never said where you do anything I'll be I'll be A lot of Do I go for a guy like Minnell cop and I just run And I'm just sprinting around the cage And he's trying to knock me out

And I'm just like you're not gonna get me Yeah no I think he would just He would eventually land Head kick while you're running Tisha Pennington is the right answer Top 15 UFC is just You just keep shoving Just get shove

Is there okay what about this answer So she finally gets me and taps me out. What about Tim Elliott? And I'm just doing such crazy shit that his crazy shit is almost like canceled out and he's like confused at why I'm doing the crazier shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's not going to be.

None of them are good. None of them are good. Tisha would knock your ass out. I mean, yeah, eventually. But because of the height and reach advantage and the weight advantage, I could survive a little bit longer. And lastly, someone was asking about the contender series fight

if you got to take a look. The same one? Yeah. Did you guys see Martinetti? Yes. Yeah, I mean, it was incredible, man. Okay. This is really... Fighting Van eventually might be best fight ever.

All right, so here is my also take on this. The fights that I'm now looking forward to most are the next ones. They're next fights, yeah. Yes. If they put, if both of them come out and put on individual bangers, we've got like some real die-hard scrappers. I love it. contender series you know look I think they give out way too many contracts I think the the rest of the UFC cards the fight night cards have become basically contender series plus right they like the bottom half of every single card is basically a contender series card um but man the athletes are hungry and and deliver on those shows they really it's it's it's the least fatty product that the UFC has it really is just like scrap scrap scrap scrap scrap scrap scrap scrap and then the they just get out. So it's a good product. But the result of that is we basically just get like

the bottom half. The prelims of every single fight card are just contender series fighters. So it's contender series plus. But I am mad. You know, too many contracts given out, but at the same time, like maybe these guys can be, you know, if you're going on wars like that, then yeah. Yeah. Sign them. Yeah. Sign them for sure. That was it. That was all of them. I'm seeing one more right here. Payday gang from Joshua Freeman. BX. Stand up. Any new predictions for over unders for new champions by the end of the year, trying to throw a future. And I can't remember what we said at the beginning of the year. Well, there's not, how many title fights are left? There's, there's, um, um, um, Tom and Cyril.

Wait, is that, that is the next pay-per-view, right? Yeah. Tom and Cyril, that's a no for me. Virna and McKenzie. Gurna and McKenzie. I guess that counts, right? New champions, you would have, because it's a vacant title, I guess that counts. So we'll call that one.

I don't know how the betting line would consider that. So that's one. And then November, we've got Islam JDM. So I say yes on that one. I say Islam wins that. So that's two new champions. And then the Komenas, Zhang and Valentina. Yep.

I'm going Zhang on that. So I'd actually have three new champions now. And then December might be Marab. Who's December? Maybe Marab, maybe Pantosia. We have to wait and see. If it's Marab, it's no. If it's Pantosia, it's no.

So I feel, and it's not going to be like, it's not going to be Ilya. I feel good with like I'm saying three are going to happen. Yeah. Zhang and Valentina is the one I'm least confident in. I'm very confident that, well, I'm very confident in Islam, and I'm very confident in Verna or McKenzie capturing a vacant belt. So it's not really super risky, but I think two to three is solid, depending on what I have new champions this year, man. I saw a graphic of the champs in March compared to now, and I was like, man, A, it's like been most of my favorite fighters becoming champions, J.DM getting the belt, Elia with the belt at 155. Hamzat's got the belt now. Pereira's got the belt. But those are some of the crazier ones because it's like Alex was the champion, but now becomes the champion again.

Crazy year in terms of championship changes. Ballal JDM loses it to Balal Has now Islam As an opportunity To take that one So that one might change hands Twice

It is a turbulent year For that Shout out Ilya New champion at 55 Yeah dude It's it's been a wild year In championships

All right That's all the super chats Frankie Yes sir All right That'll do it for us Someone in the chat Saying Raven's watching

Yeah there he is The King of Queens love that show God, the AI is... Love that show, perfect. Why did they have to AI Leah Remney, too? Like, she doesn't look like that. They could have just AI'd me.

I think that actually is Vyrna Gingji Roba as Leah Remini. Shout out, man. I am the king of queens. No, you know what? Action Bronson is the King of Queens and then Kevin James is the King of Queens

and then Rick is the King of Queens. I'll take it. Third in line's not bad. What is it? My eyes are good. weary his back is getting tight i'm sitting here in traffic on the queensborough bridge tonight some some some all i want to do is cash my chick drive right home to you yeah shout to the king queen never seen it used to watch it every day when i got home from school thanks for

watching crack tomorrow uh we'll be back next week ufc rio enjoy it ufc vancouver I gotta piss, I'm out.