The Ariel Helwani Show - Kamaru Usman can't be next for Islam Makhachev, can he? Belal Muhammad's wild comments, UFC Qatar preview | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

The Boys in the Back kick off the show with news and notes, including a UFC Qatar shakeup (01:22), Ryan Garcia's next fight (02:55), and a wild media day comment by Belal Muhammad (05:18).Then, they breakdown the welterweight title picture and the recent momentum behind Kamaru Usman (13:41), before previewing UFC Qatar top to bottom (23:00).Finally, The Boys make picks (1:14:07), deliver their P4P worst P4P lists by Mysterious Frank (1:16:37), and listen to your voicemails (1:31:45).

What is good? Welcome back to the boys in the back. What is good? Welcome back to another edition of the Boys in the Back. This time, it's a beautiful Thursday afternoon. November 20th, a nice crisp fall day as we prepare ourselves for UFC Qatar this weekend. I am one-third of the Boys in the Back. Mr. Connor Birx, join alongside me as always. Pretty Ricky! Hey, Mr. Eric Jackman, and we thought it was just going to be us too. We thought it was just going to be me and you kicking and repping for the boys in the back. But Frank, he decided to show up as well. Frank, what's good, man? It's great to be here. Thank you. Yeah, I can't lie. You sound in...

Pound for Pound list is going to get kind of awkward. Oh, is it? Oh, yeah, it is. Frank, you sound very happy to be here. We are happy to have you here. Thank you. Wow. All right. I see. It's getting frosty. Well, I'm a homocity with the pound for pound list today. All right. Just an FYI to all you watchers and listeners out there.

We do have a hard out today. Save your money. No super chats. We won't be getting to them. If you send them in, then nothing more than a donation. We will not be answering them. I just had to get that way out of the way off the top. Let's also get some breaking news out of the way.

Last night, I was laying in bed. Getting ready for a beautiful evening of slumber when it was ruined by a tweet, letting me know that Sergei Spivak is no longer fighting this weekend against Shemiel Gatsyev and who takes his place on just three days notice? Salsa boy, Waldo Cortez-A-Costa.

His reign of terror continues on the heavyweight division. I do have to say, in all seriousness, joking aside, him to take the fight on three days' notice is pretty gangster, especially after he just picked up a win after the eye poke,

like, what was that, four weeks ago, five weeks ago, and I think this is his now fifth fight of 2025. Yeah, and you don't see that a lot in the heavyweight division. I think if he wins this fight, we do have to turn the corner

and become a salsa boy program. If salsa boy knocks out my goat, if salsa boy completely puts Shamil Gatsia of out flat on his back on three days notice, I'll become a salsa boy. All right, there it is.

I'll move over to the tribe of Waldo Cortezza God. The gauntlet has been thrown by Connor Burks. If salsa boy can knock out Shemil Gautsiev, we will be a salsa boy program. In fact, I will go so far as to say, we will try to get Salsa Boy on the show. Salsa Boy on the show if he knocks out, Shemil Gautier.

All right, there it is. There it is, folks. But for now, you're rooting for his downfall with everything in your being. My goat. Shamil has the opportunity to stamp his goat hood on Saturday against Waldo Cortez-A Costa. Another piece of breaking news that we got, Ryan Garcia was teasing it all. day. He was like, we're going to get some fight announcement on his Instagram last night. I was fingers crossed. We had Connor Ben, or Ariel had Connor Ben on the show yesterday.

A lot of animosity between them, too, don't seem to like each other at all. I was hoping. Quick turnaround, get Connor Ben right back in there in a massive fight against Ryan Garcia. It's actually going to be against Mario Barrios in February. It's still a great fight, but it doesn't have that, like, heat, that pop of Devin Haney, Connor Ben, those fights have something that I don't think this has. But when you're talking about fighting for titles and things like that, like the sport of boxing still needs to continue

on, I imagine that they'll resolve business and then maybe the next fight is a Connor Ben. So it's still a great fight. I'm still interested in it, but it does not have that kind of mainstream appeal. Do Connor Ben and Shakur in the meantime? Yeah. I'd be shocked if that

happened. Yeah, I don't know if you do that. I think you wait. I think you wait for this opportunity if you're Connor Ben. You literally just fought Chris Eubank, rest on that, enjoy that, keep yourself ready, and then step in against the winner of this. Boxing has a big card this weekend. You got Devin Haney. Who else is on that card?

Let's look it up. You got Devin Haney. You know what? I should have had the card right in front of me when I said it. We've got... Devin Haney. Oh, Bam Rodriguez is on this one. Bam Rodriguez.

Devin Haney taking on Brian Norman. Yeah, Ryan Norman Jr., rep in Atlanta. let's go shout out um what else do we have on this card oh david benivitas versus anthony yard abdula mason is returning so decent decent uh boxing card a lot of people have been saying like the one of the better fight cards of the year which i guess from top to bottom certainly it is like a any don't get is is a big star benavitas is a big star but it doesn't have that like pay-per-view main event attraction type guy oh yeah this is not a casuals card this is not a casuals card this is not a card at all, but top to bottom, good names on this card.

The UFC heads to Qatar this weekend with a great main event and a co-main event. Yesterday they had Media Day and a couple stories coming out of it. Did we want to play this one clip from Bilal Muhammad's Media Day. What he had to say about his training. Belaw? Does he usually get viral clips out of Media Day? Look, man, when Bilal Muhammad gets a mic in his hand, the people listen. This is what he had to say about, you know, he's getting up there in age. I believe he's 37 years old now.

This is what he talked about, his youthfulness in the game. Take a look. My future is bright, right? I'm training with young monsters. Ignacio Ball Mondes is probably 28, and I think he's one of the best strikers in the UFC. Like I said, I got a 17-year-old now. Nacho's younger brother, who's a monster, right? It feels like the Epstein files without the, you know, the sex, right?

I'm getting their powers through sparring and training. What the fuck is that? What do you mean about that? What is that, dude? What do you mean by that meme? What is that? It's like the Epstein Files without the sex,

referring to his 17-year-old training partner, Baja Mondez little brother? Who's the check? What a well-time dude? That might be the worst bar in UFC history. That is up there for the worst bar. Like, I don't even know. If you actually take the...

Unfortunately, I am, like, my brain goes to breaking this down, For one, how do you make a reference to Epstein Files without the sex? That's kind of like the point of the Epstein Files thing. Also, what would it mean to be the Epstein Files without the sex? Does it mean just like taking flights to islands? Like what actually does it mean? Well, he said it's like the Epstein Files Without the Sex. Hanging out with 17-year-olds, I guess.

I'm taking their powers by training and sparring with them. And he said it with a grin on his face. Like he thought he was spitting, I think. He thought it was a bar. I pray to God he got to the back and his team was like, What the fuck was that, dude? He said it, like, 12 minutes into the presser, and the presser went for 45.

Oh, man. I hope in the back of his head, though, for the last 30 minutes of the press conference, he was just like, why the fuck did I say that? That didn't make any sense. Yeah, that's a really rough quote. And I am a known below Muhammad Apologist.

I kind of have always said, like, eh, everybody's too hard on him. I don't get it. Like, cringe this, cringe that. Yeah, even I don't really have much of a defense. on that one. That was extremely rough. That's going to be my new line. It's like the Epstein Files without the sex.

In what context are we going to use this? Like, when do you drop that? I don't know, but it's going to kill over the holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas. Oh, shit. It's like the Epstein Files without the sex. Connor, what are you talking about? What the fuck are you talking about, dude? Oh, fuck.

You guys didn't see Bilal Muhammad say that, a UFC guitar media day? It was everywhere. No, you fucking weirdo. You would have known. No, it's like the Epstein Tobiles without the Sacks. You wouldn't know about that. Oh, my Lord. Just another he...

Balal. By Balal, man. I don't know. I don't know what that was. I don't know what that was. I actually had to watch it a few times. I don't think he knew what that was. I'd watch it a few times and get several different sources to make sure it wasn't AI.

Yeah. It's a good thing you checked because I would have thought that might be AI. Congratulations to Balal. I think he's locked up like the quote of the year. Yeah. Yeah, that one, that one, people aren't going to forget that one. Wow. I think the Epstein Fowles without the sex.

We're going to be playing the best of UFC trash talk over the course of the years, like a highlight montage. It's going to be like Connor grabbing the mic and then we're going to cut to Bilal at the media day for Qatar. Can we just play it one more time? Is that possible? Let's re-rack that. Let's really listen in here. My future is bright, right?

I'm training with young monsters. Ignacio Ball Mondes is probably 28 and I think he's one of the best strikers in UFC. Like I said, I got to start. 17-year-old now, Nato's younger brother, who's a monster, right? It feels like the Epstein files without the, you know, the sex, right? I'm getting their powers through sparring and training. I'm getting their powers through sparring or training. It's like he's insinuating that Epstein was stealing their youth from the children by having

sex with them. Allegedly. It's fucking crazy, dude. The more I watch it, the more I'm just like, what? was he even going for with that? I have no idea. How does your mind even go to that? Also, like, the Bahamondi's kid is like

17. It's not like he's like 12. I just want to be clear, though. Without the sex, Connor. Don't forget that part. Without the sex. I didn't watch the rest of the presser. It'd be amazing if when he stood up, he was like, guys, I did just want to be clear on the thing I said like 30 minutes ago.

I did mean Epstein files without the sex. Just wanted to clarify that. Thanks, everybody. Oh, man. Without the sex. Bala. Dana White has long been on record of like, we allow fighters to say whatever they want, free speech.

This is going to be the one where he starts out the press conference on Saturday night. First thing I want to say off the top, Balaahman is no longer allowed to have a UFC microphone in front of him. his face. Oh, Lord. Shout out to you, dude. Shout out to you. I mean, he gave us a good laugh. I don't know what the fuck you were going for, but all credit to you, man.

That one's going in the back pocket, for sure. It's like the Epstein Bals without the sex, you know? Yeah, it is. Ian Gary, Ian Machado, Gary, sat down with TNT Sports and talked about Kamara Usman, is he next? Should he be next? He has some strong thoughts on it. Take a listen. Khabib and his team are very smart

and they are very intelligent at choosing fights and making interesting matchups Kumar Roveman is fucking irrelevant in the Welfthright Division right now and I excuse my language but it's the fact he's a has been

yes at one point in time he was arguably the greatest wealth weight of all time he's not close now Kibib and the team in Russia and that whole fight team they know how to spin the wording to build the fight, but there's no interest, no fan wants to see that fight. They want to see him

versus me, they want to see him versus Shavkat, they want to see Islam versus practice and morale, they want to see the new generation of this welterweight division. When you've got someone who's pushing 40 years of age and his number nearly 10 in the world, he's irrelevant to me. So I think that's just Islam trying to get that 17th consecutive win against an easy opponent, someone who was at one point in time somebody, but now was just trying to maintain relevance. So I don't want to say anything disrespectful to Islam and his team, but I think it's a cop. I don't want to say anything disrespectful, but the last 60 seconds, I've been completely disrespecting them.

I don't want to say anything disrespectful, but it's a cop out. He's a pussy. You know, don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, he obviously feels some type of way. And I think a lot of people feel that type of way about the potential of Kumar Usma getting the shot. I think he is the ninth. Is the ninth?

Wow, is that actually right? Man. I think he's, or maybe he was Leon. Maybe he's at eight. but I mean he is far down All right he's the number eight ranked Welterweight coming off of a win over Joaquin Buckley who is the number 10 ranked

I agree with everything that Ian Gary said except for one part which is that like people are clamoring for Ian Gary I don't feel that like I think there's like I think a Michael Morales might be a little bit of a sexier pick or something like that but he's right that Kamar Usman doesn't belong

in this conversation I agree with that but I also don't agree with that the fact that Kumar Usman is a has-been and he's completely irrelevant. That's true. The fact that he's getting talked about means that he does have relevancy and the fact that guys like Habib, guys like Islam, guys like Dana White,

guys like Ali are bringing them up. Obviously, you know, there's motivations there, but I don't think he's irrelevant. But at the end of the day, it can't be Kamar Usman. If he was irrelevant, then there wouldn't be a ton of discussion around this, right? If he was

irrelevant, it would just be like, people would laugh and be like, no, of course he's not getting the shot. Like, it wouldn't even be a conversation. So he's not irrelevant. But is he a top-level fighter anymore? I guess that's a debate to be had. And for Ian Machado-Garry, it's like he is not. Is he a top-level fighter and could he even give Islamakishov a test?

Yeah, would we be doing this to have a fight at all? Or would this just be for like the Stipe Mioches versus John Jones? He gets the legacy win. I was just going to say, like, it just feels tit for tat, one-to-one, steppe miotches versus john jones islam machochev versus kamar ozman you're getting that legacy fight you're getting that oh he's one of the greatest welterweights of all time they'll in the buildup i was going to say in the buildup it will be promoted as this is the greatest welterweight of all time against this up and coming goat in islam machochev the the second fight in his new weight class just like it was for john jones

and he'll get it and he'll finish him in the third round and we'll be like duh of course he did like this was never going to be competitive, let's actually move on with the division. It does feel like a waste of time, but from a casual fan perspective, you must admit, Kamar Usman's name carries more weight than any of these other guys, right? There is a truth to that. Thousand percent. The same way steep means more than Cyril gone, or even at that time, Tom Aspinall. Well, Tom Asperol, because Tom Aspinall was the interim champion at the time.

So he deserved that title shot. I almost think the welterweight is more egregious. I know there isn't an interim champion right now, but the fact that it's just stacked so deep. Like you could give Michael Morales a title shot. You could give Shavkaa Rakhmanov a title shot. You could potentially give Carlos Prachis a title shot, and you could give the winner of Ian Meshad O'Garry

and Belal Muhammad a title shot. Yeah, and if we're drawing the comparison to heavyweight with Tom and John again, it was really only Tom, right? It was like, okay, they're passing over Tom. It's pretty egregious. why would they do that? With this one, you're right,

there's quite a few guys I'd put ahead of Camaro. Ian Gary wins on Saturday? Yeah. You have Michael Morales, Shavkat, Rachmanovini, and Mishato Gary right there. Three dudes who it's just like, take your pick on who you want to give the title shot to.

Whoever's available is the one that should get it at that point. Giving it to Camaro Oussman would be egregious. I think they're going to do it. If, like, he's so, like, dead set on the title, just have him fight JDM. You win that one. you'll get your title shot. Number one.

Or any of those other guys, right? What if you fight like a Michael Morales and have to earn it? Yeah. But I think he's going to get it. So you're convinced that the next fight announcement is going to be...

I don't think these things happened by accident. Ali's push for it and the power that he has because he represents so many of the top fighters, including the champion Islamakachev.

And the fact that Dana White continues to go out there and talk about Kamaru Usman as the goat when nobody's asking and nobody came. it feels like this is a calculated plan of attack um that said it's not there's no um nobody is under the illusion that i think kamara usman is going to win that fight and also i think everybody knows like kamar usman's knees are bad like we knew this when he was champion we knew that

kamer usman was somebody who had to like get up for these fights when he was champion and so when ian machado gary is coming out here and calling him no knees and shit like that, there's truth to that that people recognize and understand. So would it shock me if they're like, yeah, we're going to call Camaro's number. And then Camaro's like, man, I don't think my knees can even go. Like, yeah, that could definitely happen.

And then all of a sudden, you're looking at an Ian or you're looking at a Michael Morales anyway. So we'll see how this all shakes out. I do think the UFC's primary choice at this moment is probably Camaro Usman, unfortunately. He's the number eight ranked Welterweight. Coming off one win over Joaquin Buckley.

The only reason you go that deep is like a Pantoja, where he starts lapping the division. Just to put the equivalency, just to grab just for a nice exercise. Yeah. The eighth ranked contender in every other division. That would be like Marab fighting Marlon Chito Vera. Oof. That would be like Alexander Volcanovsky fighting Steve Garcia. All right, that one's a little more reasonable.

Let's say Brian Ortega. Okay. Because he's also tight. He has a bit of more of a legacy. It would be like Ilya Teporia fighting Benoit Saint-Denie It's not great

But it's like What about Armin What about Patty? Yeah What about Gachi? Yeah It would be like Hamza Tchamaya fighting

RDR Or Robert Whitaker The Whitaker one seems rough Alex Pereira Fighting Dominic Reyes Yeah Oh wow Yeah

Or you could even say Pereira fighting Osamat Mirzikanov I mean, I'd watch it. Tom Aspinall fighting Derek Lewis. I'd also watch that. I could see it happening. McKenzie Dern fighting Tabith Rishi?

That exercise revealed to me that actually... It's not that crazy. It's not that crazy. The UFC could do these. Like, not from a competitive standpoint, but from a, like, Derek Lewis got a big name. Let's dome to Tom Aspinall.

Like, I could actually see that happening, which is the state of modern UFC, modern MMA. there isn't a division like Walter Waite where there's that many guys that you have so clearly ahead of the line, right? This is the case that you've been making and I echo that point. Ian Machado Gary is so far above Kamara Usman

in terms of what he's done in recent years. Michael Morales, even Carlos Proches, who has a loss to Ian Gary, Shavkat obviously, right? Shavkat hasn't lost since he was born. But all of these guys are so obviously ahead of Camaro, it does feel a bit silly.

But again, like, the USC's selling these fights to a CBS audience, right? Like, it's going to be the people that they want to bring into the tent that are not necessarily the hardcores. I think Camaro is probably the frontrunner just because of what I'm seeing from Dana White and the camps evolved. But I also don't know that when they go, all right, it's time Camaro sign that contract. Islam signed that contract. Camaro's going to be like, yeah, I'm ready to go. He needs to time this perfectly. Okay, bet online

Yeah, sportsbook offers future odds And I'll tell you what Islam Kamaro is after this They also are offering a wager on Islam Makashev's next opponent Oh And it's Bala Muhammad, Elliot Tuporia, Shafkat Rahmanov, Ian Gary Kamara Usman, Michael Morales What do you think?

Who do you think is the favorite? Mara. Okay, and what do you think his odds are? Plus 300. Not bad. Kamara Usman plus 2.2. Michael Morales plus 300 Ian Gary plus 325

Shafcott Rock went out plus 350 Ilya plus 400 Bilal Muhammad plus 900 These kind of seem right Like this seems what I'm In line with thinking Carlos Pratchez plus 1,000 Now Islam Makashev

Kamara Usman Yeah What do you think the line is Minus 750 Islam Oh man I need to get to the bank If this one happens Islam Makashv minus 285 Oh my lord

Yeah, that's a second mortgage right there. Minus 285, yeah. Islamakshed minus 315 versus Michael Morales. Yeah, see, that one, I'm very confident Islam will win, but it's a stay away for me. Like, Michael Morales is just, he's one of those guys that I just, I have to see more before I can even have any kind of determination. It's like Tom Aspinall. If you go in there in every single fight, you just like ice somebody in a round because you're a freak athlete, it's kind of hard to really gauge

how skillful he is. The first shot by Islam, he may not know how to stop a double leg and just get completely ramshack, but it is funny. We share this same confidence in Shavkat Rachmanov that we sort of don't have in Michael Morales because we say we haven't seen enough, but they both have 19 fights. They both have seven fights in the UFC. I saw

Shavkat in a fight against Jeff Neal where he had to dig deep where Jeff was bombing on him. And he was, and and a fight with Ian Gary where he had to dig deep, it seemed like he got compromised at some point throughout that fight and was able to win it in the later rounds. So that part I know about Shavkat, which I don't know about Michael.

What happens after the third round? Like, I have no clue. Does he even have the gas tank to go there. So there's some unknowns there. I would be scared if I was betting on Islam there just from the perspective that, like, he may just be the next thing. He may just be that Iliot-Tepori type

where he can just ice everybody. but I'd be pretty confident in Islam at the same time. All right, it's going to be very interesting to watch. Kamala Usman, right now on the odds, your current favorite to be the next opponent for Islam-Magashv. I'm curious if he and Gary wins how the odds will be effective. I think it depends how. I think it depends how.

If he doesn't have a better performance than Michael Morales, which it's going to be hard to top, the momentum would seem to be with Michael. Like, he's just continuing to do this. Unfortunately, the guy who I think has the best chance of dethroning him, and we talked about this, I think we both agreed with Shavkat, We don't know. Like, apparently he's healthy.

According to Ariel, he's saying that he's healthy. But, like, when is he going to fight? And what is that going to look like? It's coming up on a year now since we last saw him in action. Let's go to UFC Qatar this weekend main event. Armin Surukian versus Dan Hooker, Komen, Balaamah, versus Ian Mashado-Garry. I feel like title shots are on the line with both of these.

There's some big names in attendance. Actually, at this entire card, with all the connections going on through it, The amount of big names in these, like, 155 to 185 weight classes, it's stacked. You've got Islam Makashv, who I think he's just because he lives in the region he's going. Okay. I'm not sure why he's, Eliot Topoy is there for his brother. Patty Pimbley is there for his two teammates, Shemrock and Luke Riley, who are debuting in the UFC this weekend. Surukin, obviously, in the main event, Dan Hooker main event, Gary and Mohamed, co-mate event.

And then Habzaa Chamaev will be cornering Armin Sarukin this weekend as well. I saw one video of Ilya Tepore and Armin Sarukian almost running in to each other. I know they've had some history. They could be the next title shot there. Patty Pembley and Illinois Tepore, you have to imagine, like, they're going to be walking around the arena together. It's going to be interesting to see if any of these big names, you know, run into each other and make a viral clip from it. Is it possible that the UFC invited Islam just in case Ian Gary has that type of performance and they go get in there? there let's let's start to build now yeah maybe maybe if ian gary goes out and just like starches

belal mohammed and that seems like that seems like a lot for ian gary belal mohammed on the off chance that one of them like starches them just to get islam in the cage or maybe this kamaro thing is not as far as long as we all think maybe maybe those odds that bet online release are not you know accurate and maybe it's ian gary all along so we'll see but um it would look it's good to have islam in the crowd because all you have to do is cut to him, right? You, the winner, Ian Mach, or even if Ian or Balal, after they win, get on the mic and say, I want to fight you. Now, Balal has said, that's my brother.

I'll never fight him. Now, granted, he was the champion at the time, and Islam was the one who was not champion, and it seemed convenient to do. Let's see if Bilal Mohammed wins, if he goes, Islam Makachev, I want you, or he's like, my brother's here, I would never fight him. So I'm just going to fight another guy and never be champion again. It's no problem. Islam Makash.

I love you. You've been my brother, but now you've got my belt. You've taken everything I work for. I'm going to make you like the Epstein Files without the sex. Without the sex. What the fuck is that? That's a legend in Malamahad, one of the best trash talkers of our generation. All right, Armin Saruki and Dan Hooker.

Yeah. This is a fight that has come with, like, as we've gotten closer and closer to it, it feels like these guys do not like each other at all. Dan Hooker has come out outright and been like, I hate him. I hate Armin Sarukian, I hate everything about him. Armin Sarukian, not as hot about it. He's not as forceful with it. He's had a couple tweets, just kind of like, bro, I'm going to kill you.

You're nothing. But Dan Hooker has come out and been like, bro, I don't like him. Dan Hooker views him and has always kind of talked about this as like this like privileged rich boy who got into MMA. and Dan Hooker views himself as a scrapper and so do the rest of us, right? We all view Dan Hooker as that. Like, he is a game fighter's fighter.

And so he looks at Armin as the contrast to that and he just doesn't respect it and doesn't like it. So we'll see if that's just trash talk. Like, after the fight, we'll see. Maybe he doesn't shake his hand. Maybe they don't end up making, you know, squashing that. But it's clearly a clash of like cultures, right? He feels like Armin is coming from a completely different thing from him,

and he's a fighter's fighter, and he wants to kind of test that. So it makes for good trash talk. It also makes for a good fight. I saw an incredible edit of Dan Hooker. We can't play it because it's got fight footage and it's got music and everything, but it was Dan Hooker in an interview basically just being like, yeah, he looks better than me. When he gets on the scales, he's in better shape than me, he exercises more.

He's got better wrestling. He's got better jiu-jitsu. You know, he eats better than me. He doesn't drink as much as me. But guess what, man, this is a fist fight. And in a fist fight, you can't count out Dan Hooker. It was fantastic stuff. And I think that is to be true.

This could be tough. Would you be shocked if it went similar to the main and co-main event of UFC 322? I have a statistic here. Other than the 62nd KO of Benil, his last three fights, Armin has racked up 27 minutes and seven seconds of control time. 43 minutes of fighting. Who were those fights? I know one was Charles.

One was Charles. One was, uh, actually, uh, he fought a short notice dude. And then, uh, yeah, Charles Bineal, oh,

Joaquin Silva. Yeah, Joaquin Silva filled in. And Damir is Magula. Yeah, Damir is Magula back in December of 2022. He doesn't fight that often. This is the first time we've seen him

fights since UFC 300. Yeah. And he was in the title fight with Islam and then unfortunately had to pull up to do that back issue. Um, Kind of crazy, Charles Alvarez is 2 and 1 and has fought for the title since that fight at U.S.C. 300. It would shock me because I think Armin knows he needs to make a statement here.

That's the part that would shock because I think he knows if he has Dan Hooker and he's able to control him that easily, I think he will probably be aggressive to actually finish it. The last thing Armin Sarucyan wants to do is leave the door open for a guy like a Patty Pimblet, right? If you leave that door open for Paddy Pimblit, he's going to bust her. that door. If you go out there and you lay on Dan Hook, this is a five-round fight, right? It's a main event? Right. Okay. If you go out there and you control Dan Hooker for five rounds and do no damage, Patty Pimbley's voice is going to be extremely loud and hard to ignore. And the UFC fan base is going to be hard to ignore when that noise for Patty Pimbleau starts up. If you're

arm in and you've got them in complete control, go for something, subs, TKO. I think, I think he'll be a little more aggressive. So I'd be surprised if, and also, not for nothing, I think Dan Hooker leaves himself open to potentially being finished there because he also leaves himself open to escape. Like, Dan Hooker puts himself in position to take risks. Dan Hooker is not somebody like Jack who was just kind of like there. He was just comfortable to be like, not comfortable,

because he looked extremely uncomfortable. But he didn't really have get-ups. He didn't really have escapes. He was kind of just like trying to play the game. with Islam and Islam was just so much better at controlling him. Dan's going to take risks. Dan's going to try to get up. Dan's going to try to reverse. And in those scrambles,

that's where it leaves opportunity for Armand to finish, but it also leaves Dan chances to escape and actually make it a fight again. So I think Armin might be able to find a finish here. In addition to wanting to put on a show, because Dan Hooker is not going to be somebody who's just going to lay there and get, who's not going to lay there and

be controlled for five rounds. He's going to try to make it a scramble. He's going to try to get up. He's going to try to do something to get out of that position, and that leaves him vulnerable as well. So I just don't see it. There's an argument to be made for the urgency for Armant's Rukin. Also, Dan Hooker, in his last three losses, he has been finished in the first round. Yeah.

Like, I know he is tough as nails. Like, if it goes the full 15, he is in a dog fight, but also when he does lose, it has been by finish. Yeah, it's been definitive. Yeah. I feel like Armin, if it starts turning into a scrap, and Dan, Han Hooker can obviously give anyone a scrap, he will rely on what can get him the win, and I wouldn't be shocked if it turned into more control time. Yeah, it's definitely possible.

I'm giving Armand the benefit of the doubt. I think his grappling is vastly superior, and I think it will lead him to opportunities to actually try to finish this fight. But Dan Hooker is game, man. We saw it in the Gamrod fight. They have a common opponent in Gamrod, and Dan Hooker beat him, and Armand Surukin lost to him. he looked good. He was able to create those scrambles that I'm talking about

and make it very, very tough for Gamrot to do exactly the game plan you're kind of laying out, right? To just only control, which is Gamrat's game, right? I think Armand's a little more aggressive in that game, but Gamrots game is just to

completely control an opponent and Dan Hooker did not let him do that. So I'm interested to see if he can thwart the attack of Armin. I don't think that's going to be the case. I think if I'm making the prediction, it's that Armand's going to be able to control him and by round three, four-ish,

it's going to be too much and I think he might get a finish. When he beat Gamrodd, he was a plus-2-10 underdog. When he beat Turner, he was a plus-24-under-dog. And now you can get him as big as a plus-4-10 underdog against Armand-Saruky in this week. Yeah, don't count out Dan Hooker. He's always going to make it a fight.

Don't count out Dan Hooker. Shout out to engage for this shirt, by the way. This is a solid one right here. Two guys that like they might hate each other But I actually really like both of them Agreed I like Armin he's like we've been seeing more of his personality that eating videos are hilarious I know Ariel it's like one of his favorite things on earth Because it it harkens back to some Canadian commercial for for cereal

But I also think like Islam Makachap to me was the number one lightweight on the planet Indisputably right I thought he was best and I thought everybody was very far below him The number two guys in my mind was always Armand Sarukian. And so with Islam out of the way, he slides into that spot, all due respect to Ilya Taboria. I, Armand beat Charles Olivaire too.

So it's not like this is some guy, like it's not like Ilya's lightweight run is something that I can't still have Armin Serucan ranked as my best lightweight. In fact, I do. I still think Armin is probably the best light weight on the planet. And so if I believe he's the best lightweight

on the planet, it would stand to reason that he should be able to beat Dan Hooker. So I have him beating Dan Hooker. Where do you have Armin pound for pound? where do you have ilia pound for pound 10 i think okay and ilia must be i have islam marab then ilia is that just based off of accomplishments yeah recent accomplishments and also like moving up weight classes what would you know happen um pantosia maybe four i i forget my my list off the top of my head but i have i have i have ilia higher pound for pound because of what he's able to do at featherweight

The jury is still out on lightweight Win over Charles Alvara Great, Armisturiken has a win over Charles Oliver I need to see what the rest of the The run looks like for For Ilya at lightweight But I know it is crazy We've only seen the one

The 1-155 fight from Alia We talked about the animosity We talked about the sort of the hatred The beef here Maybe it's one-sided on mostly Dan Hooker's part But we did get this hilarious video from one Dan Hooker Obviously me and Amasruki just come from two different places.

Looks like he wipes his ass off a hundred dollar billers. I'm out here slaving away, mowing my own fucking lawns. Now I gotta do normal shit. Maybe that pisses me off. I don't know that guy from a bar of soap. But I already know that I hate him. He's just been chiming away since he first come into the UFC and he's saying that I'm somehow avoiding him

when I've never seen him fight or know who he is. Now I just hate everything he does. I hate the sound of his voice. The way that he speaks to me, he sounds like Borat. He looks like he showers and then takes the shit. I think this guy is a fucking idiot and I can't wait to knock him out. I actually believe everything he's saying there as well

that he's like, yeah, no, I've never watched him fight. Well, it's other than UFC 300, it's like Armin, what, he headlined the Austin card in December, and then he's been on quite a few Apex cards as well. So, like, I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't really watch him fight at all. And Dan watches a lot of fights, so I'm sure he's watching him fight, but it's also the contrast of, shout out to Oscar Willis, by the way, but you see him mowing the lawn, and then it's like cut to Armin eating caviar. You know, like, there is that contrast of culture and style and philosophy and strategy when

it comes to this fight game that makes this a very compelling fight. But I do believe Dan Hooker in his soul of souls probably doesn't respect Armin Sarukian. He will fight him and then we'll see if he respects him on the back end of it. He had this quote to say, I don't like that his face is attached to his body. I would love to separate the two. I don't know anything about him, but I hate everything he stands for. I can't wait to elbow him in the nose. I believe that. I think from the moment this fight was announced Dan Hooker put out the graphic and was like, I'll rip his head off. And that's what he has to do, because if he doesn't, it's going to be Armant's fight. Yeah, I can't imagine. I mean, maybe we say that, but like, he won the Gamrod by a split decision.

Like, I can't imagine he's going to have success if it goes all five rounds, but who knows, man? Like, you really, you can't count Dan Hooker out. No, you can't, but we do have to remember that Armist Rukian is not Gamrod. Armid Sarukian's stand-up is dangerous and significantly better than Gamrots. Gamrott is the fight I would point to to show that Dan Hooker is harder to control than you may think, but not the fight that I go, well, this is why he's going to beat Armin. This might be why he makes it hard for Armin, why he beats Armin is going to be if Armin does stand with him for a significant amount of time, Dan really punishes him in those moments.

But Armin is great, man. Armin is really great. All right. final question about this fight. Yeah. Whoever wins, regardless of how it happens, is their next fight for the title? Yes. Yes, I do think so.

Dan Hooker as well. I think, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I mean, Dan Hooker was set at Media Day. He was like, if I win the fight, I got two options. I go and fight Max for the BMF or I go undisputed gold. I think you'd be next because I think the UFC would jump at that opportunity, right? With Armin, they're getting somebody who's going to be, I think, more competitive and have a tough fight with Iliate Soporia, but with Dan, you're getting somebody who you know is going to stand there and throw down its scrap. So I would hope that one of these guys, whoever wins this does have their next fight be for the title.

I understand why you're asking it that way, because obviously, Patty Pimblek could kind of slide in there, right? Like, it seems like Patty versus Ilya is the fight to make, so I'm down. I think in January we get Patty versus versus I think, I think there's a little. It is November 20th. Yeah, but they haven't announced anything. Yeah, January is the first one. I know. I don't.

They have to announce something. I don't think we're going to get Patty versus Illia. What are they going to announce? Something else. I don't think it's going to invoke. It's taken too long. Could it be the Aspinall rematch? Too soon.

It's going to be. Pereira? I mean, you've got to start this card with a bang. I think they're going to get creative. Pantosia's done, Marab's done. Wow, this is interesting. This is interesting. Islam's not going to fight. Hamzat?

Hamzad imovat? EMF title? Hamzat Strickland for the BMA? I think they're going to get creative. Oh, fuck. You cannot start the new era with fucking Max Holloway, Charles Oliverer, BMF title. You can do that as the co-man.

you can't, that can't be your main event. No, I'm saying it now, you can't. If Ilya Teporia was fighting in January, it would be announced already. It's too close. You don't announce the Iliotoporia fight on a month's notice. Yeah? When did they announce 317?

Yeah, but we knew that fight, right? Like, everybody knew what that fight was going to be. Do Olavera Holloway for the BMF belt co-main to Islam-Makashv versus Kumara Usman and our? I retire. Islamangashir versus walking Buckley.

Look, could it be yes? Patty, being out there and being like Ilya doesn't want to

sign the contract. Now he's mentioning Justin Geichi. It's a bad sign for me that this is not done yet.

So I don't think. I wonder if we get an announcement this weekend. That would be about the latest you could possibly do it. We're two months out.

We're two months out. What card was it that that took so long. Was it an international fight week? Yes. Well, we knew it was going to be Ilya, but they just... We had to get the conclusion of the... Islam.

Bilal and all of them, whether or not they moved up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. I think it's going to be a great fight. Ultimately... Yes. Hart says Dan Hooker, head says Arm and Sarukian... I think a lot of people are in that boat.

Kind of the same thing as last week. Hart said J.D.M. Brain said Islam. So, brain sides with Arm and Sarukin getting this done, but... They've built it well. But I hope it becomes a really good fight. I hope it becomes a really solid scrap, and Dan Hooker puts one on him. I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

Let's go to the co-mate event. Bilal Muhammad versus Ian Mashado Gary. First time Belal was back since the JDM loss. Gary, beat process. Now he's trying to go 2-0 in 2025, and he gets the number two well-to-waiting Belal-Mohamed. On the flip side of Dan Hooker, Arm, Sarukian, this has a ton of stakes attached to it

the winner could potentially be fighting for the title but there's really no I don't think Bala is going to fight for a title with the win That's a very good point There's no real animosity between these guys No not really I mean we saw them in that Yeah we saw the breakfast video Can we run that you know people

People seem to love this kind of stuff It feels just like you know It was a little bit on this What was that what's that man? Bala I should have pulled them in close in Mela It's like good Enjoy your finish

I just want to come for house I just wanted to say hi You know there's no mild intentions No, no matter of time Have a night reason. Yeah, I'm careful. I mean, what would the animosity be? At this point, like, there's so much more

anger and anguish that could be spread around than at Balal, Muhammad, or vice versa, right? It feels like Kamaru Usman's the one who's encroaching on people's territory. Michael Morales, Carlos Pratchez, those are the guys that are really, like, coming up. For Ian and Balal, this is

just another fight. You have to win this fight to continue your assent, but I don't think there's much animosity there, nor should there be. I think the only thing they both agree on, really, though, is that Kamar Usman should not be next for the title. Belal said, do you want to put this old fart with no knees in a title fight? You can't count on a guy like that who is just a coward. Oh. I don't know how we jump from the no knees to the coward. I don't know if I'd stepped on a week's notice for Humzot. I don't know if I'd put Camaro Osmond. Yeah. I don't know about that. And then he and Gary said, Mokachev needs to fight one of the young up-and-coming contenders, not a has-been who has no knees.

Hey, man, they really go through the knees. It's real. It's a real thing. I mean, a video of him getting off the bus in Atlanta was crazy. It was crazy. It looked like my grandfather. He is severely compromised, and it will need to be, he will need to be in the best condition he's ever been in to beat a guy like Islam-Makachev. So it's totally fair for all these guys to be like, why are you putting him in there? It's not going to be competitive. I know he has a name value, but he's not going to be competitive. All right, so this is the first time since we saw the Canelo hands attempt against JDM.

He tried the wrestling, it didn't really work out, the hands didn't really work out on the feet as well. Now he finds himself as a sizable underdog against Ian Garian. It almost feels like after being a big favorite against JDM, it's like the market immediately went back to what it has always been on Bilal Muhammad. leading up to the title fight. Wonderboy, plus 175, 1. Lucay, plus 150, 1. Brady plus 120, 1. Gilbert, plus 125, 1.

And then the title fight, Leon Edwards, plus 215, won that one as well. Jumps to being a big favorite against J.D.M. Loses, now right back to being big dog odds. Respectfully to J.D.M, I think Ian Garry is a tougher fight for Balaahmah. I think Balaamah, quite frankly, people will, call this revisionist history, it is what it is. I think Balal blew the JDM fight. I think if he had a different game plan, he would have won that fight. Now having seen the Islam fight again, like,

if Balal Muhammad was a lot more intentional, a lot more aggressive with his takedowns, I think he would have beaten Jack Della Madalena, and he would still be champion, and he would have been the one facing Islam, which he would have lost, because I would have for sure picked Islam in that fight. And I think I am Machado Gary is harder, is a harder fight, because I think, I think Ian is good in all phases in a way that JDM is not. We've seen now enough tape on JDM and his wrestling to know that it's not elite. In fact, it's very far from elite. It's not very good.

Ian Machado, Gary, can do everything. He can grapple in all phases. He can clinch. He can grapple on the mat. He can strike. He's a very, very complete fighter. And so I think this is a tough test for Balal. On the other side of the coin, I think Balala is good in every phase as well.

And I've long thought he's underrated. You just pointed out that he's been a dog in every single fight except for the one against JDM and then he lost. Again, I stand by the fact that he blew it. I don't know if Balala as a dog is not tempting for me. It's something to think about because I think this is going to be a bit of a mirror match, right? Like, they both have decent striking. I'd say Ian has a little more diversity in the attack, right?

The kicks are a little bit better and he's just a little more crafty. He knows how to get in and out of range a little bit better. But man, Balal can box. say what you want about that fight with JDM. He was standing in their toe to toe with JDM and boxing with him. Like I know it's Canelo hands that we joke about it, but like he didn't look out of his depths. He didn't look like a guy who was just like unable to stand with JDM.

He's very well-rounded. We know how good his wrestling can be. I don't know if he's going to be able to implement that against Ian Machado, Gary, and why I think it's a tougher matchup potentially than JDM. So I don't know which way to go on this, but in this type of like coin flip 50-50 type thing, it's only three rounds. I think Bilal's got a decent shot.

I definitely think he does, man. And in agreement with everything you just said, I think it's just going to be a great fight. I think it's going to be close. I think this idea of counting out Balal just because of the JDM fight is a little bit ridiculous to me. I think it's a fight that's almost certainly

going to go to a decision. Neither of these guys are big finishers. People want to talk about, remember the decision and everything like that and clown on Balal. One finish in his last eight fights. Ian Gary, two finishes in his last eight fights. Let's not sit here and act like,

Ian Gary is some lethal finisher, and one of those was against Kanan Song late into the third round after he had gotten dropped in the first round. Like, he's not some lethal finisher. Ian Gary has never been finished himself, but all the one time was against Lucke almost a decade ago at this point. Ian Gary was the first one to go 25 with Shafcott Rachmanov, the first guy to not get finished by Rachmanov. I think both dudes are durable. I don't think either of them has, like, insane finishing capabilities. I think it goes to 15 minutes, and I think it's probably close because they're both well-rounded. dudes. Like, Bala Muhammad was the champion.

Yeah. This is a former champion, dude, and he's only one fight removed from that. Like, he is still going to come in and and beat good guys. Yeah, man, beat the run up. Wonderboy. And this is 2022, 2021 Wonder Boy. Like, this is not Wonder Boy now. Vicente Luque, Sean Brady,

when he was undefeated, Gilbert Burns, obviously before all the injuries Burns is dealing with. And then Leon, when Leon was the champion, a fantastic run, winning as an underdog in every single one of those fights. Like, he's beaten good guys. He has a well-rounded game. I don't know who wins. I think it's a

close fight. I think it's going to come down to the scorecards. I could see it be in 29-28 either way. They are very similar on paper in terms of that well-roundedness. The biggest thing that I could point to in this fight, the biggest differentiator, the biggest separator is, Ian Gary is 28 years old, and Balamamaamaama

is 37. The youth, man. There will be a point where Balal, as well-rounded as he is, is just not going to beat a guy 10 years younger than him. As you get older, That ability to do that shrinks and shrinks and shrinks. And so we may be at the point where, man, the miles, the years, the age is just too much and the youth takes over. For that reason, I lean ever so slightly toward Ian Machado, Gary.

But a 2928 ball is like the least shocking outcome I could imagine. Like it's so totally possible. On top of that, Gary is obsessed with this game. Like he lives and breathes it. Everything is mixed martial arts, you know, obviously moving to Brazil to train. train down there and everything, and I always feel like he comes in equipped with a good game plan. Yeah.

Like, it just feels like against Shafcott. He came in with a good game plan, 48, 47 on all three judges' scorecards just needed the one more round. Unfortunately, it doesn't get his done. And then against process, man. Up until that fifth round, dude, it was like, damn, this is not even close to being competitive. Yeah.

And then, you know, gas is out, gets hits with some big shots and everything like that. But I think he'll come in with a good game plan. I like the youth. if you're making me choose I'll leany and Gary but I think this is going to be a close fight seem lean for me

let's keep rolling on to the featured bout of the evening Volcanoes the mayor taking on Alonzo Minneville I'm not gonna lie with like the names and like the potential of like future stars on here

I was kind of surprised to see this this be the featured bout but it is what it is the number nine versus number 14 light heavy weights in the world though saying that

it feels like they are miles away from a title shot. It does not feel like to get either of these guys in a title picture anytime soon. Minifield coming off a win at UFC Atlanta that I was at, plus 500 underdog against Umar Sai.

I want to split over Julius Walker in Seattle earlier this year. Who could forget? Could have a 3-0, 2025 after an 0-2-20204. Amazing. What a run. Yeah, I think it stops. Volcanoes the mirror. Volcanoes a knockout. Yeah, I think so.

He's actually the young. younger guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's actually the younger guy in this one. And like, look, I feel like this is a curse that I put on guys, but I'm always just like, but look at the losses. His losses are like, D.C., Erie, Reyes, Ancolae of, like, really top guys.

D.C. kind of buried him recently. I know. I know when he was just like, bro, they give me a title. He's trying to get bolted Olson here. Oh, God. When you saw that, I wonder. On the feet. I mean, what can you say if you've all can, like, you lost?

Yeah. On the feet, this is, this is not competitive. Like, Volcan is a superior striker by miles. This comes down to his Volcan's chain going to hold up. If he gets hit, can he get, can he handle it? If so, or if he doesn't get hit, man, he's the way superior fighter. Like, there's just no doubt in my mind. Like, I almost feel like, what was he, like, minus 200 something?

It's a bargain, but then I say that, and then Menafield lands one shot and just sends him into orbit. If his chin holds up even the slightest degree, Volkan is the superior fighter. All right, so if it makes you feel any better. M.R.C., decision win. Julius Walker, decision win. Yeah. Knocked out twice by Mersakanov and Olberg, which there's no shame in that. Those are two top guys.

Two top guys. Decision win against Dustin Jacobi. Hasn't had a finish in two and a half years. That Volcan's looking pretty good. I had to finish in two and a half years. I got to support my Swiss, you know. Shout out to Switzerland. Great fondue over there.

love that country so you know i know they're starving for a ufc superstar and volkan's it yeah i went to geneva a few years ago and i was out on the lake and i overheard a conversation that some guy was like man i'm starving for a ufc superstar i was like no name check for vulcanos the mayor oh they were like you know i'm starving they were like you know they gave dc a title shot against vulcan o's the mayor it was food it was food for the guy yeah shout to the swiss though Who else? Not complicated. Stephanie Egger.

Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. Yeah. Yeah. I was at breakfast one day. God, they're having a lot of conversations, huh? You know what these eggs remind me of?

Our quote, Stephanie Egger. Shout out. Careful. Don't throw that around lightly. We've got a quote. Easy. Yeah, what are you doing? How are you doing, Frank?

There's only one quote. How was the family reaction to the Fatima Klein interview? I had to sleep on the couch. My back hurts. I stay at your place tonight. Yeah, that's great, man. That's great. Let's keep rolling along on the main car.

Jack Hermanson, taking on it. Mick DeBeck Oral by Hermanson has been on a win-loss, win-loss, win-loss streak since 2019. Holy shit. Yeah, it's crazy. And he's coming off a loss, a loss that we all saw. U.S. 317 International Fight Week against Robocop got knocked out bad follow-up shot. Didn't get up for a while, man. That was only like four months ago, four and a half months ago.

I don't know about coming back this early, man, especially at his age, it's a little daunting. Oral Bai, we talk about the age differences, 10 years younger in this one as well, against a dude that is a dog. Like, we have seen him get into dog fights. The Roebatsky fight.

The Robechki fight was all time, never been finished in his career. And, like, kind of like the Ian Gary fight, like, Oralby's well-rounded, dude. Like, he can get takedowns, he can get some mission finishes. Like, he can hold his own in the strike. I know Hermanson is good for a vet lesson,

but with how quickly he's coming back against the guy this young and this talented, I'm going Oral By here. Yeah, Hermanson has absolutely no shot against Oral By. That's why it's going to be 29-28 or Manson. Yeah. Hermanson is fucked. He is fucking unbelievable. He's winning a split decision.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man. That knockout at 317 was scary, dude. This is a very, very tough matchup, and these are exactly the types of matchups that Hermanson finds a way, right? It's like, guess what, Jack?

We're calling up Joe Pfeiffer, the hardest hitter we've ever seen. And you're going to get the shit beat out of you for 10 minutes, and then you're going to win. This is a Jack Hermanson fight. So, like, yes, I expect Oral By to really, like, punish Jack Hermanson here. Eventually, you can't keep taking those types of damage in those types of fights. But he is a crafty veteran.

He is extremely well-rounded. Once it gets into the grappling, he's so slick there, man. And it's not even just about, like, can he submit people? It's just about he's so capable of staying safe and defensive grappling and then offensively kind of controlling, hunting submissions, and doing all those things. I think it will, if he is able to win, he will have to go through hell to do it. I lean Oroby, but, like, he's fucking Jackermancent, man. He is fucking Jackermanenton.

We shall see on Saturday. Next up, wonder if this will still be on the main card? I think it will be. I hope so. Shmiel Gatsyev was supposed to be fighting Sergei Spivak. Yep. That was supposed to happen in May. It gets rescheduled to June.

Gadsiev withdraws. Then we were supposed to get it on a beautiful crisp fall afternoon in Doha, Qatar this Saturday. Yep. Now Spivak withdraws. And in steps in, Waldo, Cortez, Acosta. Salsa boy himself. Am I taking it too far by calling him the boogeyman of the heavyweight division? No.

It used to be Buccecha, and now it's Salsa Boy. Did Salsa Boy beat Buccecia? No, who was that? It was, uh, uh, Anta Della. He beat Buccella? No, no, no, no. I don't think his first fight was off. Buccecha was the great, the great hope at heavyweight three months ago.

Martin Boudai. Martin Boudai. Are Martin Moudai and Ante Della? Have anybody seen them in the same room? Is he just working a contract on Octagon and UFC just to make extra money? Has anyone seen them in the same room together? They both happened to train with Tom Aspinall? Yeah, my ass.

It's the same guy. It's the same guy. I like this. I like the conspiracy theory. Yeah, this is tough for Waldo Cortez to stop in on short notice. It's tough for Waldo Cortez-A-Costa. It's also tough for Shemil Gatsyev because with Sergei Spivak, he's such an inconsistent fighter.

You know he has a path to win against any of these dudes by going for takedowns and just dominating from top game. But sometimes he just doesn't do it. that and he just chooses a strike and it's just like, man, why did not go for taketowns? And I imagine if he had done that here, he probably would not have had success against Gatsiev. Now Shameo's pretty much going to get what he wants in a standing fight, but it's against a dude in Waldo Cortez-A Costa, who's crafty? Like, he finds ways as boring and as low volume as it gets while he rips a salsa in front of Andrei Arlovsky when it's 1919, he finds a way

to win. He finds a way to get it to 20-9-208. Even when his eye is coming out of his head, he finds the way to win. Listen, man, and like, we joke here. There is an actual vendetta against salsa boy. We just, you need a villain in your life sometimes. And Waldo Cortez-A-Costa has taken up that role in stride, especially with how active he is. It's been perfect. The amount of tags I get whenever Waldo Cortez-A-Costa news breaks, I like, you know, like sometimes I won't tweet during the week and stuff. Like, you know, it's just we're working a lot and everything. Don't have time to just be cranking out memes. And so I won't really get that many notifications last night. I logged on. to Twitter, and, like, the little bell said 11, and I was like, something must have happened. Like, looked on it. And it's just at Connerbergs, at Connerbergs. Just, like, all just getting tagged in the Waldo Cortez-A-Costa tweets.

Respect to him for continuing to fight through the Delia one and immediately getting a knockout afterward, tough for Delia, but also staying active. This will be his fifth fight in 2025, and also being willing to take it on short notice like this against the guy that's much lower than him in the rankings. Yeah, a lot of respect due to Waldo Cortez Acosta. This is one of those fights where, like, if it's going to be a decision, you think maybe it's going to be salsa boy, right?

He was able to dance around. He was able to be crafty. I'm not really putting much stock into the fact that he was able to knock out Ante because it was on some weird circumstances, and he's really not that type of finisher. So it was kind of just an aberration in my mind. He's much more of the, like, I eeked out a decision. So if it goes to decision, if it goes long, I think it's probably Waldo who is able to be light on his feet and get on the bike and just outpoint Shemiel.

If it's a finish, you have to think that Shemiel was able to crack him with something good. Where was Waldo Cortez-A-Coste when he got the call? He fights out of Phoenix. At the club, salsa dancing. Excuse me, he fights out of the image of that just made me sick to my son. You almost threw up.

If he was His tapology says he fights out of Phoenix If he was in Phoenix bro He's got to travel all the way to Doha Qatar Yeah Way in But I guess the weight is the heavy weight But

Get to Doha guitar And then get ready for the fight on Saturday What does he So at his last fight he weighed in at 263 So he must not be a guy Who pushes too high above the heavyweight limit So he'll probably be alright on the weight part But yeah

I mean the flight part You can't counter Like he is going to be arriving there with very little time to prepare for this fight. He's losing 10 hours on the flight too. Yeah. It's currently 650. It's currently what, 3, 2, 1156 in the morning in Phoenix right now. And then you do the math on that. That means it's 9.56 p.m. in Doha Qatar. So, like, he's losing the 10 hours. Go way in, brother. Like, wake up, go way in. By the time he gets there, I wish we had a Waldo Cortez Acosta tracker right now on the salsa boy himself but yeah I'm with you on the on the

breakdown it's it's like I could see I could see Cortez Acosta finishing him if he's able to like accumulate volume like late maybe I mean maybe he's got the one-hitter quarter power now no he does not either way Shamil Goetzev please please do your thing brother do it for the boy do you think all right this fight next up has actually been upgraded. They heard our complaints. They heard our remarks. It's been moved to the main card.

Keoggi Horaguchi makes his return to the UFC to take on to gear Ullumbeck. Of a few things here. If you are unfamiliar with Keoggi Horaguchi's game, he had a previous stent in the UFC about 10 years ago when 7-1. Only loss was to won Demetrius Johnson. Yeah, not bad. Goes on to Risen, 14-1 there, champion. Goes on to Bellator, becomes a champion there as well.

Losses suffered along the way to like Sergio Pettises and Kaya Socoras and Patchy mixes of the world. Not great because they came over to the UFC and haven't had a ton of success. But like Keoggi Horaguchi is a gamer,

bro. 34 and 5, a fantastic career. I don't love that he's getting Teguil and Bekoff off rip. Like this is kind of a guy that I know he has the ties to, you know, team Habib and team Islam and everything like that,

but there's not a ton of hype on Tegiro and Bekhov and he's not an easy out. No, he is not and he's a rightful favorite but man, like when you list the accolades like Kiyoji is is the truth man and we like

there have been people beating the drum to bring Kioji in to fight Pantoja right off rip they're training they've trained together in Florida and everybody knows how good Kiyoji Horaguchi is this feels like as you said,

Tagir is kind of a name that flies under the radar but if Kiyoji can get this win it does feel like you can push him toward a title because you're able to sell all those accolades that previous run in the UFC

and all the things he's been able to do since like he is a top top top level guy whereas I wouldn't say the same type of upside for Tagir right? It's not necessarily like title shot rocket ship to him after this

but a win over Kiyoji Horagushi is a great thing to have on the resume. And that would be his fifth straight win he could potentially start becoming a guy that, like, if we get the Josh fan Pantosha fight in a few weeks. There's not much left.

And if Pantosia wins, it's just like, who is next for this man? Who is going to fight this guy? I like that they're not immediately rocketing him into the title shot. We saw the struggles that Kaya Sakora faced with that.

I mean, he got dog walked. It was not even competitive. And he kind of just shut down the career of Kaya Socorra from there. Let a Horeguchi get a test here. If he beats a tough test. Yeah, tough test. Yeah.

A tough test with not a ton of hype, and if he loses, it's probably going to be like a pretty boring affair. And it's like, well, send him pack in. We'll see when he gets his next fight. It feels like the UFC, especially at these lower weight classes, are desperate for a Japanese star.

Obviously, you've got Tatsuro Taira hanging around the top. Maybe he's next for Pantoggi if he's able to beat Van. But, like, they tried the Asakora experience. Now they're bringing in Kiyoji Horaguchi. It feels like they want to crack that mark. I think, unfortunately, Keoggi's too far, long and the two, too far into the career, right? Like, he's not going to be that guy that you can count on for the long haul. Like, he's already had such an incredible career.

Like, this is definitely the back nine, uh, and miles that he's put on. But he, I think he's at least a guy that you could put into a title fight with a van or with a Pantosia and be like, we've got a legit championship level contender here in a way that the rest of the flyweight division hasn't really quite developed. But as far as Japan goes, like, those other guys are probably the ones that you look at. And it's Tyra. Yeah, I feel like it's Tyra at this point. What is crazy here is Keoggi Horaguchi, despite having double the fights, he's only like six months older than to get rolling back off. That's going to be very interesting. I will have my eyes on that one. Let's rip through

the prelims. Luke Riley taking on Bogdan Grad. This has potential to be a banger. Luke Riley, one of two guys debuting from NextGen Liverpool, where Patty Pimlet fights out of. That's why Patty Pimlet's going to be at this card. Undefeated 11 and O. All of the those fights taking place in Cage Warriors. Yeah, they're the boys right there. Shemrock, Patty Pemblit, and Luke Riley. Obviously, Luke Riley and Shemrock fighting in Cage Warriors and Octagon, much more well known to the European fans. But Luke Riley, man, he's a scrapper. He's got a following. Like, when he got signed, everybody was tweeting about that. He was supposed to fight on Dana-Wain Contender Series, had some visa issues, wasn't able to make it

happen now, gets his debut in Qatar. And both on grab, man, if he doesn't go for takedowns, I think this is going to become just a boxer's delight, and I could see Luke Riley finishing him and making a stamp on his debut. Yeah, I'm excited to see what Luke Riley is able to do. Especially after Shemrock, who doesn't have an easy debut. No. And we'll talk about that in a minute. It'll be very interesting to see how Luke Riley does.

Next up, Sagid Ezekhazegh Maev. You said it. You got that one? No, you said it. It was great. Sagide Azagmaiyev. Mm-hmm. Taking on Nick Dalby.

Sagid Ezekaqmaev. Remember the name. I remember. And I ain't talking about Balal. I'm talking about Seagid Eza Gakmae. It's like Epstein-Less. Without the sex. He's got a win over Shania Yochi.

Oh, yeah, dude. He was nice in one championship. He also fought Carleston Harris, a UAE Warriors. He's 22 and 2. The thing is... Chauts of A. Warriors. Shout out to UA Warriors. Eagle FC guy, he gets around.

Thing is, no MMA fights since 2022. Yeah, he had the one grappling match. Yeah, in karate combat, but has not had an actual MMA fight in three years, November of 2022. Much like with Hermanson, this is one of those like, ah, big underdog Dalby? Also, Dalby, 41's still going, man. Yeah. Coming off a pretty vicious chaos. I was going to say that that KO against Randy Brown was pretty rough.

Oh, so another 10-year age gap. Yeah. Hard to not have a 10-year age gap at 41 in this game. Got a lien with the youth. That's why it'll be 29-28 about Dalby. I kind of feel like I'm signed with Dalby just because of the unknown of Sagid as a Gakmaev. Look, there is something real about,

like, if you haven't fought competitive MMA in that long, that's a very long time to come back against the guy in Dalby who basically only fights competitive MMA. Like, there's not time between fights. He just got knocked out by Randy Brown. He's back. he's ready to scrap again that's kind of been the story of Dalby

so I think you're right to point that out I think you're right to focus in on the idea of like coming right into a fight against Nicholas Dolby even though Dalby's on a little bit of a skid right now is a very tough task regardless of what your kind of record has looked like to this point here is the argument to make

if you look at his at his Instagram I mean he's been training all year he was at the Performance Institute back in January he obviously trains with Team Habib all those boys Umar Islam He's up in the mountains. 3027. Yeah, like, I'm looking at his, at his Instagram, and, like, he stays in shape, man.

He's with Islam in the locker room at the Dustin Porre fight. So, like, he's been around the game. It's not like he's completely been gone, but, like, you do also just wonder, like, where have you been? Where have you been, Sagiq? Sigeed is it Gak Mayev. Yeah, my bad. I wasn't familiar with the game.

I know John Anik has been ripping that several times over this week. Sagi... Is it Gakmai? Is Anik on the call, you think? Oh yeah, I guess that's true. Who is it going to be? I don't know. Let's see.

Not Fitzgerald. It'll be John. Who's the check? Oh, John Gooden? Yeah, John Gooden. I would love that because I love the silky, smooth voice. Actually, guitar's a pretty big deal, dude. I could see it be an Anick.

Tell me. John Gooden. John Gooden. Also, you like how I said, No, it's going to be John. Like, it's not John Gooden and John Anick. John Gooden joined by Michael Bisbing and Paul Felder.

Oh, that's not a bad broadcast. I love Paul Felder. I'm a big fan of John Good. And shout out to John Good. Love John Good and love Paul Felder. Bisping. Oh, yeah, I was about to say you left somebody out. Try to Bisping.

A little, a few people know this, but back in my UFC 3 career mode, I was a middleweight. And me and Bisping had a pretty fiery rivalry, and I haven't been able to drop it. I get it. I get it. You think Bisbing knows? When you what he has to know

because I beat him time and time again When you become champ in the UFC games they kind of just started recycling the opponents and like four or five times Sorry Mike

Bisping yeah It was kind of like the SpongeBob How many times do I have to teach you old man Yeah Mike It was a lot shout out to That's rough for him Next up Assul Almabaev

Taking on Alex Perez My question to you on this one Is not who wins Is does it happen Does it happen? Alex Perez 11, 11 fight cancellations since 2021. Yeah, I'm not... Hold out of the air sec fighting in August already.

I'm not putting bad juju on this. It will happen, and I've got Amabayev. One in four in his last five. Yeah, look, no doubt it is a tough run for Alex Perez, but Alex Perez is a gamer, so... Yeah. This is kind of one of those ones, Alex Perez, is only 33? Yeah, exactly. But I do favor Amabayev, I believe, in his skills.

Yeah, I agree. Let's keep it rolling with another Kazakhstan. Bezgot Alma Khan taking on the brother of Ilya Alessandro Teporia this one is at pickum odds I'm not gonna lie going into the week I was like yeah I'm signed with Alessandre Teporia

and then I went back and watched the tape on Alma Khan this is the dude that stepped in on short notice against Summara Magamatov and dropped them in round one and then obviously he got thoroughly dominated from there it was kind of like rinse and repeat got like 3026 3025 I'll say this

thoroughly dominated but look game in the grappling. Game. Like, he was controlled, but he looked game in the grappling. But then he fights Brad Catona and the next fight knocks him out in 60 seconds, has 10 knockouts in his career, has been fighting at ATT, first guy to finish Brad Catona. Like, he's game, dude. He's his game as they come in Toporia, the Colby thickness fight. Like, he won. He won soundly, but it wasn't like, I wasn't blown away by it. I wouldn't be shocked if Bescott posed this off.

I think it's Bescott, no? Like, I lean that way. I think this is the Toporia name probably keeping this line a little closer than it might have been otherwise. I think so, too. I'm still going to have faith that, like, the brother is as good as they claim, but we get to find out on Saturday. That's the good news. This is a great test for him. That's fair.

I don't know enough about Alexandre to, like, see, but we will find out. This is not a wager for me. This is a watch and see. And I'm looking forward to it, man. Like, there are really some great fights on this card. And then you finish it with the co-main and main event. It's fantastic. One more I wanted to dive into the Nerulo Alive.

fight going on against Shaquim Rock, Shem Rock, the other guy training out of next gen, Patty Pimbled's gym in Liverpool. He comes over from Octagon, not Cage Warriors, and he gets a tough test, man. 10-0, 24-year-old.

He's a big dog. He probably should be a dog. He's a guy that likes the ground game, and he leaves a guy that likes control time. I think he'll be comfortable going on to his back, and Aleve will just rack up control time and get a win that way. Yeah, wins over

Joe Selecki and Raphael Alves like that's going to be tough that is going to be tough for Shemrock I'm actually really looking forward to the Luke Riley fight I think Bogdang can give him

a really exciting fight on the flip side of this one I'm nervous this is going to be a stinker that's early enough we'll get beyond it and then this card will start to roll

no no no I'm saying for Shimrock's career sick name gets a lot of submission finishes this will halt like the I'm just worried it's going to be like man that one's

that's a tough matchup to get into. That's all right. Just a couple more. Abdul Rahman, Yakyaev, taking on Hafeel, Sequeira, Sequeira, O and 3 so far. I imagine it's probably... I love the way you said that, Yakkyeyev. It's a great name.

Abdul Rahman Yakyaev. Yakyaev. It's a good name. It's good name. Ryan Loder versus Ishmael Nardiev. Luzer Leaves Town-type matchup, you know? See ya. See ya.

See ya. And then last one, Merrick Buzlo versus Denzel, Luke Fox Freeman. I saw that and I was like, what the fuck is this? Luke Fox is Batwing. He's one of the Batwing characters.

And he got scouted by Batman to become Batwing and he found him fighting M.A. So that's why his name is Denzel Luke Fox Freeman. In the comics, he was fighting M.MA when he found him.

Yeah, he's an M.A. fighter in the comics. All right. I guess. I guess that's pretty cool, then. I was going to say this is some weeb stuff, but like... I think his Twitter bio is the Batman of the USMC, the Marine Corps. So shout out to him. LFA Heavyweight champ. We need new blood. Is Denzel Luke Fox Freeman? That guy? Who's to check? Who is the check? Who is the check? You know what? Now I'm in. I like the Luke Fox thing. I'm down for the storyline. Are we getting the Buchetcha stamp?

Nah, chill. The Buchetcha next big thing stand. That's the card, man. It's unbelievable. That's still Buccecha, by the way. Yeah, yeah, it is the next big thing. If we have the graphic, just take a peek at that. Just take a little gander at it if we have it.

I don't know if we do. There it is. Armand Suruki and Dan Hooker, Balal, Ian Gary, Ozedimir Menafield, her Manson, Oralby. WCA versus Shamil Gazeeve. Shout out to our

our crack graphics team back there. Updating that to Salsa Boy, to gear him back off Keoggi Horaguchi that main card legit though I know newer fans are not going to be like super thrilled about Kioji Hargushi like they don't necessarily recognize but like when you're that far down the card and you've got a guy who's like championship level it's a good card I'm quite excited for this one

main card starts at one yeah pretty nice sign me up 10 a.m. Low Cup of Joe and and uh and uh Denzel Luke Fox Freeman Stack of pancakes Denzel Luke Fox Freeman going I can't wait for it I like how you always have to say it the full Denzo Luke Fox Freeman baby

All right let's get into bets Parlay pals Pound for pound Boy Smiles Parley Pals I've already gotten Pizzi's pick He is going against Paddy's boy

Shemrock He's going with Nuruolo Ali Is he allowed to do that why would he not be able to I just feel like you know the UK Ireland that like yeah region like I feel like

we should stick together Will we ever win again? Octagon cage warriors like that Yeah Will we ever win again That's the real question Or maybe he has the inside scoop And that's why he knows

Fair Last week we lose I cost us on Malcolm Wellmaker It's tough It is tough We're now 13 and 30 God It's tough

No but this one We're gonna get into the green Nope Into the black I don't think I've heard that one before. We're deep enough into it. Frankie, who are you going with, brother? You know what?

I'm such a huge fan of Patty and Liverpool. And I'm going to go with Luke Riley. Nice. Hope he makes his debut, K.O., but I just need him to win for the Parley Pals. So you're counteracting PTCs against Jim. Yeah, if he's going to, yeah, if he's drifting away, I'm going full Liverpool. All right, I'm going to go with Mick DeBeclora.

Yeah. Against Jack Branson. 29, 20, Ermanson incoming. I'm going to go with Asu Amabayev All right All right No one's taking anything from the main or comay No one taking a little bit

Well there it is Plus 286 Can't get back into the green But we can make a little dent I'd love to make a dent God I just want to win It's got to be like 13 in a row or something Like we're up like eight units

It's got to be getting fat It's getting bad We have runs where it's like We win like four or five in a row And then we lose 12 in a row Yeah I think this is like I think this actually is like 11 or 12 in a row. It is actually tough. All right, I got two bets. Nothing crazy. Co-main

event. I'm going with Ian Machado, Gary, to get it done by a decision. Minus 1.15. I edge Gary. I think it's going to be a great fight, but... You edge Gary? Yeah, I don't know what... Me likey. Without the sex. Ian Gary, by decision, gets it done. 2928. And then Parlay. We talked about it. Volcano's the mayor. I think he starts his lawns up in the field and then Mick DeBecke Orwell by, who was my Parlay Pals pick? Guitar's got a nice flag.

Like that burgundy. Hell yeah, that is sick. It's a good color. That burgundy's nice. That Burgundy's nice. Shout out to guitar. I saw it a lot during the World Cup. Shout out to him.

All right. Those are my bets. Just a couple this weekend. Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. Those are the Parlay Pals. Let's get to our pound for pound rankings. Frank wasn't supposed to be here.

Frank? Not even supposed to be here to be here. Exactly. Frank called out. Then he called back in. Things changed. Things happen. Now Frank's here. We were supposed to do this without him. Pound for pound for worst Frank lists of all time. But it was too late to change it. So now he's here for it. He's going to have to sit through it. Are you going to do a list, Frank? No. All my list is golden. Because you think they're all shit. Oh, oh, golden. I mean, golden. Going to be going to be golden. Okay, you want to go first? Sure. I mean, I guess we can't have Frank decide because he's not even participating.

Oh, I can decide. What do you think, Frank? I think Rick should start us on. Thanks, man. And then we'll finish it off of Connor. I actually think that was Frank's first list. The one and two of me and me than you after we already were going to do that.

All right. Man, this is weird because we're going to have to just show Frank to his face. It's not like we didn't shit on him anyway. Just pretend like I'm not here. I mean, I do that anyway. Shut up. Shut up. Number five for me.

12 month runs this was an abomination can we show Frank's this was the this was the recap that 24 I'm gonna highlight that number three right there just that 2024 Dakota DeCheva

this is why it's so particularly offensive to me and it was number five the rest was fucking rock solid like the rest of it like Frank really dug in did the research I was impressed with what he was doing here and then you just throw that little that little cherry in there.

Okay, no, I also have an issue with 2020 Israel-Ata Sanya. He beat Yuel Romero by decision and knocked out Paulo Costa. Okay, it wasn't his best one, but it was not nearly as offensive as the Dakota Dichima. That is insane. He had the two best at the bottom.

And then also, to have an Alex Pereira year in there, and it be 2022 when he beat Brue. Bruno Silva, Sean Strickland, and Israel Adasanya is fucking insane. When he had a 2024 that was Jamal Hill title, Yeri, Prahashka, title, Khalil Roundtree, title fight. Frank, Frank delivered on that way. Insane. All right.

Insane. Number four of Frank's worst pound for round list. The French list. The French things list. Daft Punk at the top Having two mustards on there Is also just fucking crazy Also as we read out

Jordan read out at the end If you look at our list In French French French French It had to include the word French And there is no French Anywhere to be found on any of this list Except for French's mustard And it's not French

Shark Coutureport There were like three of those five things weren't even French. Insane. Number three. Rematches. Rematches was a particularly brutal one. Can we throw that up?

It was the 311 list. It was the 311 list. John Jones versus Parker Porter. All mixed up. I don't know any of these songs. I'm not a big 311 guy, but this was a seminal moment in the show's history when Frank didn't understand.

stand the assignment and went 3.11. Number two, this was hard to not be number one for me, because it's so heinous. Number two was pies. Number two was pies. Yeah, the pies was insane. Shimp fucking cocktail is his number one pie. What even is? Pabusa.

Isn't that like a flat bread type of I don't know? Guys, it's like an Aerepa. Yeah, it's like a pie. Not a pie. pizza, the only thing

that's pie form on the entire list. Césadilla can be circular, I guess, if you throw the two tortillas on. I think that was this whole thing, everything is circular. Yeah, but case it... First of all, cassidias aren't eaten circular. Like, you fold it, and it's actually... Shrimp cocktail also have seen him eat it off a plate several times. Just horrible fucking list.

When we did actual try it and true pies, the only reason this was not number one was because in the number one, he missed the... mark so badly that it's not even distinguishable what he's referring to on this list. Number one is nicknames. Oh, it has to be. Number one is nicknames. DJ, Jesse, Dom, Bobby, and Tommy. There's like three different people. These could each be, and it was particularly horrible. The nicknames was so fucking bad. It's not even funny. It's not even funny. I'm not going to lie.

we can just rip through mine real quick because it is very, very similar like it's hard to argue just how horrible these lists were. I do have a different number five. My number five being summer activities and it makes it at number five not because it's a horrible list

but it might be the worst number one of all time like he's nailing it. Go to the beer garden, spend some time at the pool, walk on the beach, an outdoor concert. These are great. Record shopping. Why would, why specifically in the summer would we go record shopping?

And there's no way that is a universal activity. The record shopping is just heinous. And then for four, I did a combo of the Dichiva obsession. It was the 2024 ditch of a year. And then also his all-time English fighters, number one, Dakota Dichiba. This is boxing included. All time. Dakota Dichiva.

Love it And then my number three is the UFC 311 311 songs We were doing rematches Uh yeah Love Song down Amber

And love song is also a cover I believe Which is egregious in his own right Number two pies Number two pies Yeah the shrimp cocktail Everything like that Are we gonna match

Number one is nicknames Yes The nicknames Can we just get it up one more time I mean we're out here Like jacqueray Rampage The Korean Zombie

Kimbo Slice, the Gracie Hunter. The key to this is every single one of ours. It's one person. You can identify them very easily by their nickname. Tommy is definitely Tom Aspinall. Where is it Tommy Fury? Bobby is either Robert Whitaker or King Green. I can't remember which one he did.

There's an option for both. Dom is, I would assume Dom Cruz, but this was Dom Reyes. This is a moment for Dom Reyes. Jesse. Jesse, Jess. Oh, yeah. Or Jesse on fire. Jesse, Jess, or, yeah, Frank has been talking a lot about Jesse on fire lately.

And then DJ. I think I know that one, but it could be the wrong. It's just an acronym for Demetrius Johnson. All-time shit-lit. The nickname was so bad. The nicknames was so bad. We had the same three through one. We also, I had, your four was my five.

Yeah, yeah. And then I did it the French. I did a little combo. I did a little combo. Another one that was all-time was matches made in heaven. Yeah, what was that again? He was nailing it

dark chocolate and sea salt, booking a quiet coffee shop. Now we start kind of rainy day and jazz, a hean and watermelon and then movie in a great soundtrack. The turn at three

is rough. Movie in a great soundtrack is fucking crazy. Greens, his greens list. Oh, all ours were shit though, right? I thought mine was pretty good. The green backs, arugula being one is

crazy. Greenwich, England. What even was force of nature? He's not going to talk. I don't know what force of nature was. It was crazy. It's a magic card. Oh, okay, okay. I will say my list was so shit that I couldn't dare question his list.

My list was ironcloth. I know you love the greens. M.M.A grapplers was also pretty tough. McKenzie, I don't know. Okay, but to be fair, the one... Dylan Dan is his... two and number one Ben Icegren. Oh yeah, that is

rough. That's pretty bad. No, no, no, to be fair, and then you see it, it's just like... To be fair? To be fair, Casey's scariest fighter list, also I think was up for criticism. Okay, I will say we got to give Frank a little bit of love. The headgear one was great. And then also... There was quite a few. That might be a stretch.

Sneaky banger, sneaky, sneaky banger. UFC Baku pound-for-pound hills if we can show the graphic Capitol Hill Uffington White Horse which I can't even remember what that is Mount St. Helens

Sir Craigor Klegain from the Game of Thrones series and he is the Mountain and then Mount Vesuvius banger list but the the crem della crem here moment the absolute just cherry on top

is his list went 5-4-3-4-5 to replicate a hill. No, it's great. All-time stuff. The thing that I learned from doing this, and I went back and looked at every single one of them. Yeah, I did too. The pound-for-pound is pound-for-pound dumbest shit on earth.

Like, we did pound-for-pound pirates in honor of... In honor of Shara Bullitt, pound-for-pound greens, pound-for-pound hills. like we have just done some of the some of the dumbest lists on earth I love it

it's great Frank we love you and do we think it'll be fair I'm supposed to be here today the fact good point do we think it would be fair next week

if Frank picks out like our dumbest list just like we leave space for that no no that's only something fucked up people do all my lists have been great all my list have been great so I'm cool with it

I'm cool with it Frank you were not supposed to be here for this you could have done pound for pound you could do pound for pound dumbest pound for pound ideas. I think we've given our best efforts

on all of them. How many have we done it to this? Who the fuck is we? At least 60. 55 or 60? We've done enough to where we can choose your shittiest list. I'm here for it. I mean, people have been asking for this and asking for our pound for pound pound, pound for pound. So just, we're going

to eventually run out of ideas and start going to these more often. If there's an inception two, then that week we have to do pound for pound, pound for pound. inspired by Bilal Mohammed do next week we do worst lines in UFC history I'm down

I don't know if I want to do the research on that one but seven player of hair without the sex about the sex it's going to be number one forever without the sex is the craziest thing I've ever heard

I'm not going to be able to stop smiling about that for a while do you think he was talking about PizzaGate and like adrenachrome and all that stuff and he got it confused I don't know No, no. To me, the instant referral to, like, I'm taking their powers through sparring and training

makes me think that Epstein was taking powers from adolescence on Epstein Island. Through MMA? Through sex. That's why he clarified without the sex. Well, no, because without the sex. No, no, no, that's his point. He's taking the powers without the sex. He's doing it through sparring.

and training. I think what he's saying is there was combat training and sex at the Epstein Island. He's saying no sex, leave you with the MMA training. I think he's saying that it was a power plant. Let's call him up.

To take the power. All I wish for, look, I'm not a gazillionaire or anything like that, but I would give every dollar in my bank account for body cam footage of Belal Muhammad walking back. stage and his team being like hey good stuff man uh but like around the 12 minute mark what the fuck was that is it gonna be like that meme with the kid where there's like they're looking at the camera and then they see who it is they make like this disgusted look on their feet

do you know what i'm talking about no i'll find it and show you okay thanks man i think that's what'll be the response yeah uh yeah that was it i'm thinking yeah oh we don't have a show next week because of thanksgiving ah shit well we won't forget we will remember the streets will never forget. Not only are we remembering the name, we will remember without the stuff. I am not letting that die. Remember the logs? I might get a shirt, yeah. I might get a shirt that just says without the sex. That might be my new line

at restaurants. Yeah, I'll take the burger. Without the sex. Sir, you need to leave. We got any voicemails for me? Okay, do you ever ask for anything with the sex? I just can't. Fucking belong. That's what I woke up to this morning. That was the first thing I saw.

I thought it was fake, dude. I thought it was... I completely missed this until you showed it to me, and I was... What was the first thing I asked you? This has to be AI, right? Yeah. I could not believe that that was real. Yeah, we got three different sources on it, though, and then the official UFC... Oh, my God.

The best part is, if you go to his presser on the UFC's page below UFC... God bless it here it is 65,000 views on this top comment the Epstein final analogy is the weirdest thing I've ever heard

a UFC fighter say in my life I've been you brother me too also we're skipping over the I've been getting beaten up by a 17 year old

for the last five weeks I feel unbeatable what does that mean dude oh man that's gonna go down that's gonna go down in this room

the Epstein reference is crazy yeah 1228 it's what you clicked on this video for what the fuck was that belal everybody knows that that's why you're here wait a minute what the fuck did he say about the epstein files pause dot dot dot that's not even pause that's like stop the track very poor choice of words wow wow wow wow wow these comments are are incredible the dan oi post represser when he says belal is not allowed to speak anymore It's going to be insane. Some of these are kind of haines.

Bro, so hairy, I genuinely almost thought he had tattoos on his arms. Yeah, I mean, he has hairy arms. Yeah. Shout out to him. Also, you might have missed the most important part of that video if that's what you're focused on. Bro, comparing one of your training partners to the Epstein files is a crazy fucking move. I would bro use the Epstein files as an example. Oh, man.

All right, Frankie, we got any We got any voice mails? Voice mails. Oh, Christ. Shoo. Oh, hooy, hoie? Hey, God, hey, Eric, how are you doing? It's me, Jimmy.

What's up, Jimmy? Shout out, Queens. I just have a quick story to tell you guys. All right. I just want to let you guys know, I'm a big fan of the show. Thanks, Jim. Listen, last man had a crazy dream, fellas. I was a little uncomfortable when I woke up, but, uh,

I don't know how to say this fucking, uh, in the June, man, I had a dream, but I kiss my mother's ass. I don't know. I don't know. You guys know what that means? Is that a meeting or something? I mean, we have to ask on us. Good to find out. Shout out, Jimmy. Thank you, Jimmy. Thanks, Jim. Which tells us. Hopefully, hopefully not Jimmer, who we know and love. What's up, boys? Father Pay will ultimately never eliminate fight fixing, especially with prop bets.

Making it easier to hedge your pay on a win or a loss. It's an easy guarantee to pad your pockets regardless of outcome. This is just the cost of doing business within all sports bets from my perspective. Hopeal optimism is just a product of delusion. I agree to an extent that like it won't eliminate it. Nothing will eliminate fight fixing. But increasing fighter pay will make it less likely. that people who are underpaid

are susceptible to it, right? That is what I think the difference maker will be. It can contribute to the solution, though I don't think there is a complete elimination solution. He's right about that part, which is like as long as there's people trying to make an extra buck and be greedy, there will always be this temptation.

But if you eliminate the number of people who could be tempted, because there will be some people who like, who was it that Ariel spoke to that was like, oh, Padilla. When Ariel spoke to Chris Padilla and Ariel was like, has anybody ever approached you? He was like, no. And if they did, I'd punch them in the fucking mouth.

That's what the reaction needs to be. If you're paying these guys well, I think that reaction becomes a lot more common than like a, oh, I might think about it. Paying them well. And I know it's clear. Like, you don't even need to say it. But like, when you sign the contract being like, this is the big leagues. If you fight fix, you will go to federal. fucking right to his to his credit dana wet has been very clear in the aftermath being like for sure

don't or you're going to fucking prison yeah hey all this is a tj from orlando so just trying to piggyback i'm listening to one of the questions here somebody just said something about when you put your christmas tree up i'm just trying to piggyback off of that okay uh let's hear just trying to ask, well, I just got married in July. Gretz, brother. Ask you guys for some advice on that marriage.

You guys gave some great advice. Still following that advice. Just found out yesterday, I'm saying this out loud for the first time. Just found out yesterday we're pregnant, we're having a baby. Congrats, man. We just want to let some advice on

what you should let your kid know. Is Santa real or not? Yeah. Oh, with this. Or knowing Who's to be the first one in class to know that Santa isn't real

Spoiling it for the other kids And you don't want your kid To be the only dumb ass in the class Wow Santa's hard That's hard So what's like For the team members that have kids

When do you let your kids know That Santa isn't real All right y'all peace This is crazy Because Last night When I got home from this show Oh no

Holly goes My wife Holly I don't know if I've ever read the Senate My wife Holly said to me Avery asked me of Santa's real Oh no And I said That's fucking illegal

What did you say And she said This Holly smart woman that she is She goes Do you think Santa's real? And then Avery was like I don't know Avery's kind of precocious

Like she's a little smart She's eight years old But I think she's starting to like get the hint That it's not Like she's skeptical like me I don't think she thinks that like Santa can fly that like around the world and like come to the house. So she's starting to get the like feeling of that. And Holly asked her.

And so she's still in this like, I'm not sure, but she's starting to get skeptical phase. I don't know if we ripped the Band-Aid off and are just like, nah. Now the danger with ripping the Band-Aid off and being like, no, it's not real. Then she kind of elbows the other kids and it's like, well, tell me. Not real, bro. Who's them? left the presence. Is that important? I don't know. Does I still maintain it?

I am the youngest of two brothers and I can't remember when I found out that Santa was not real. It was pretty early on. Anybody else have a story or thought back there? I was pretty sure he wasn't real, but I thought if I admitted to that, I wouldn't get presents. I kept that

shit close. I like that. Smart. Andy? I'm just thinking. I don't remember when I realized it, but I know that when it happened, my mom told me, like, I have a younger brother. So she was like, well, we got to keep, you know, we got to keep the tradition. We got to keep the magic alive or whatever.

And honestly, like, to this day, she'll give a Santa presence. To this day. Yeah, same with my mom. Okay, but what's your plan? My plan? God. I don't know. All right. We'll figure it out, and then I will pass along. Whatever works for you, you let me know. And then that'll be my... I'm in rough shape. I'm already at this point right now.

My mom still does, like, the stocking. She's like, oh, these are from Santa, and then it's like the gifts from parents. Yeah, yeah. It's cute. It is cute. I like it, but I don't know. I don't know how much longer I can keep up the facade. The charade.

The charade, yeah. What's up, boys, in the back? This is Matthew from Milwaukee, Colin. Just a quick note to you guys. And I'm kind of surprised that I have to be given this note. Oh, sure. So breaking the fourth wall is not the same thing as going behind the scenes. You guys stay all the time.

That's fucking bullshit. Breaking the fourth wall when you're talking about going behind the scenes. And I'm kind of surprised that you keep using it wrong because I feel like Frank definitely gives off. Well, Frank and New York Rick both give off. Hardo production vibes. Stage crew in high school theater vibes. High school theater vibes. Actually, he's right.

I wanted to call about that because I've been, you know, it's been pretty annoying for the last few months. As great as your show is, to keep hearing that mistake it made. But thank you for everything you do. And shout out. I know what he's saying. We have redefined what breaking the fourth wall means amongst ourselves. Who's we? You mean Ariel.

Like, let's be completely clear. I mean, the guy refers to his in-ear monitor as an IFB. So, like, we just have to, like, roll with the punches sometimes. How could... The only issue I had with that call is that he didn't use it correctly. What part? He didn't explain how to prove how to do it. Deadpool

acknowledging that it's a movie or it's a comic book, that's breaking the fourth ball. It's staring into the camera and acknowledging the audience. But that's kind of what we're doing. This is supposed to be sports talk and then we're talking about things

that are happening in our personal life, like meta to the actual show. You know what, dude? I'm glad this gives him heartburn. He has a point in the sense that we do a show where we do interact with people, and so it is not a diversion from that to then address the people and talk to them.

but my biggest issue is fuck you for the theater kid vibes comment I don't think I give off theater kid vibes I don't like despians and also you never even seen Frank like how could you know but no I don't I don't identify with that I don't resemble that

and yeah I took drama in school I feel attacked no no I took drama in school I liked it quite a bit it was fun everything makes sense now explains a lot is that when you get your earring No, unrelated. After high school, I got it with my wife.

Hey, what up, boys. This is CJ calling out of Roswell, Georgia again. Hey, shout out of Roswell. All I got to say is, Connor, no, Bonner, no, it's a scar on Zucco's face. It's not a tattoo, buddy. It's a scar. Come on, man. Who's the check?

From his dad. It's the whole point. All right. Love you, boys. Yeah, I received, uh, one or two messages about this and by one or two i mean like 27 um i haven't watched the show in 10 years i apologize stop um my mistake my mistake uh but please shut the fuck up about it we're we're ready to move on i i apologize it's omni it's on me uh i just need to go back and watch it

i just need to go back and watch it the the uncle ero uh the uncle iro uh debate the other week and now the scar tattoo and not remembering Zucco's name. Yeah, just got to go back and watch it. They just released Avatar, the last Airbender set on Magic the Gathering.

You know what, Frank? You dropped, you joke here. Easy, Frank. You're a theater kid? And he's in the middle of like a heartfelt childhood story. It's like, federal fucking present.

And what was the end of that story is, I don't remember, I don't know what I'm going to do, whatever. Hey, guys. What? Let's talk about it. Wick and G.C. You guys concerned not all that Frank B.

and filter for these voicemails as giving him a bit too much power. It seems to have gone straight to his head. Yeah. He's blacklisting my voicemails. I'm not even confident that this one's going to get through. And then he did that guy dirty the other week by playing his blooper. Not right. That was right.

That was good. That was good. Bring this in a little. Maybe F's his responsibility on to someone else. else. But no hard feelings, Frankie. Let's play some Tiberian sun together. Add me on GameSpy.

See you. That's quite the classic. What is GameSpy? You don't remember what GameSpy was like an old way to play online games because you had to connect directly to someone else's computer? Oh, it was a peer-to-peer. Yeah, yeah. Holy shit.

Yeah, I mean, Frankie, I mean, he wants to take the voicemail responsibility away from you. Well, that's fucked up. All right. What's going on, boys. It's your boy, Petey here. What's up, Petey? You already know the deal. All right, real quick.

Where's the 516? We got, Long Island. We got, Imbaugh-Mockett, Round 3, Stubb, Brady, Stubb, Edwards, Decision. No. And then we got,

Ben-Dary Ush be of Benny Baum-K.O. This was before? Before. Ben-W-A-T-N-E's sleeping on the canvas. He predicted Benny to knock out B-S-D. Going on a cruise here in January, and... Essentially overfile. You've ever going on one?

I've heard, you know, the pros and cons. Definitely a lot more cons than the pro. Going on Royal Caribbean. Just wanted to know, have anyone ever been on a cruise? And what's your view about it? I need the brutal honesty. Yeah, guess what? First take, bitch.

Let's fucking go. Let's go. I like a first take. Killed that, Pete. Yeah. Killed that. I have been on a Royal Caribbean guy. cruise when I was younger I hated it

there's no getting me on a cruise again oh really done what do I need to go on a cruise for go to the middle of the ocean be with a bunch of stinky smelly people drinking a bunch kids Jesus stinky smelly people really don't like kids I really don't like cruises oh I'm gonna make a ballo joke

has anybody back there has anybody back there been on a cruise or have cruise stunts I've been we went on a 10 day which was entirely too long I could not wait to get the fuck off that ship. Did you enjoy the beginning part of it, or was it, like, done from the start? No, the beginning part was okay.

Because, like, when you're exploring in the beginning, there's enough to see where you're like, oh, one day, two day, that's fine. So when was this? Summer 23, I must have been. Okay, so. Or 20, no, there's no way. Summer 22. Okay, so pre, okay, got it, got it. Yeah, but, you know, by, like, at the periods where you can't get off.

the ship and you're just trying to make it back you just want to jump off where did you go that you like where did you like do the day uh stuff like was it like bahamas or something we had bahamas okay we had st thomas i think it was yeah nice like a few we did like maybe four stops and we got off everywhere and did everything off the ship because i once we got on we were trapped yeah yeah yeah yeah did you do royal caribbean as well yes yeah i did is that i've been on two i think two Holly really likes them The first time I got very sick

I get seasick on cruises They're like Iron-clad stomach The guy who like Just like spicy seschuan noodles Five minutes before we go in the air Just like No I'm ironclad

Don't even worry about it man It's an equilibrium thing But what's crazy about it is And this is the part that baffles me I could get on like a little skipper boat right now riding through the choppiest waters you've ever seen and be completely fine there's something about the big ship

that just like fucks my equilibrium and I get sick like I never get motion sickness I read in cars I can fly nothing ever nothing impacts me with that I step on a cruise the from hour two I am like incapacitated just yaking

yaking can't move out of the bed Dude. And so I had to get the patches and they work like a charm like I was fine. Oh, shout out. The first one was rough though because I did not have those patches.

Did you know it going into it on the first one? I had no idea. But also, as I said, and as you know, like I'm kind of like bulletproof with all this shit. So I had no even thought that it could have even happened.

Second one, were you nervous going into it being like, 1,000%? Please God let these patches work. I was nervous. I knew the patches would work, but I was like, maybe the first one was like,

I was sick already. Yeah. Hopefully I'll be okay stepped on dying from the second I stepped on the cruise So I got the patch This second one was like

Seven days Or eight days I just don't enjoy cruises I just don't like it I understand the like dirty Bacteria I'd almost rather just go to like If you're gonna do the like

We're staying in one spot Go to like an all inclusive resort Instead of the cruise So like the whole thing When you're taking off And it's like Yeah Everyone's like, yeah, whoo-hoo!

There's a novelty to it. If it's your first one, you might enjoy it. But, yeah, I get violently ill, so it's not great. But the patches work like a charm. Frankie, you a cruise guy? I've never been on a cruise. I would kill to be on a cruise. You guys, man, you're just taking it for granted.

It's great. Sounds like a fun time. You can go. It's not like we're like stopping you. No, no, that's fine. My parents are doing a Viking cruise in France next year, which is like the Ritzie old. people one, like you're literally not

allowed to bring kids on. Oh, I like that. And it's through a river, so like you're always close to land and it makes a bunch of stops. We'll see what they think of it, but man, count me out for cruises, bro. Yeah. You're like, Holly loves cruises. The woman I end up with cannot be a...

She can't be a girl. Okay. Here's the happy ending to this story. She also didn't have a great time on the second one, so she was like, all right, it'll be a bit before we try to get it. I would go on one and then be I'd be I'd be making the cruise a terrible A terrible scene

The other thing was We came with like 50 family Like relatives So we had like a big representation On the boat That makes it easier Because then you can meet up with people You know you all go to dinner together

You do those things But yeah None of us had a great time How much do they cost? What's a 10-day-Role Caribbean cost? I can't remember But it was definitely in the thousands Yeah you're paying two and a half

GIs Plus the flight to Florida Yeah It was money man I'm hopping on a jet to Europe before I'm getting on a cruise. Did you watch train wreck poop crews? Because I feel like this is your biggest

nightmare. I watched some of that, but yeah, count me out for all of that. Ghost ships. So enjoy your cruise. Sh showers, the tiny little cabins. You know, you always... A great internet service? Titanic's got to be in the back of the head too. You got to keep it in the back of the mind.

You know? What if? Do we have enough rowboats? Who's to check? Thank you to this caller. Enjoy your cruise. This segment, Presented by Royal Caribbean Cruises. Make sure to book your winter vacation now down to the beautiful island of the Bahamas. It'll only take us 14 days to get there, and you spend one day on shore.

Yeah, enjoy your cruise, man. How do you boys in the back? It's Big Bee back again. What's up, Big Bee? I know last time I confused Rick. That'd be that Queen's water, I guess. What the fuck? Queens!

That hard to do you. A shout out, Lone Star State. Speaking of He used about what, though Fighting for the world title Out of Houston, Texas By way of Malaysia Nope, me and Mark

I remember I watched his first life He did live in Malaysia Oh, okay I told all my friends I have the text pulled up right here This kid will fight for a world title In the next two years Hell yeah

I was right Yeah, congrats So A question for Frankie My boy My guy Kisser of asses Sometimes mothers

No both Allegedly. What is the top five? Exports. Look forward to hearing from you all. All right. That's good. Top five X sports?

Top Texas exports. Oh, all right. The Frito Pie. Yeah. Does the export that? I mean, yeah. We provided to the rest of the... I like a Frito Pie.

All right. I'm just going to say things that Texas have provided the rest of the country. All right. Stadium nachos. Okay. That's a Texas thing? Yeah, it started in El Paso. All right.

It's two low-grade. concession stand food. Low grade. You know what? Pantera. Shout out. Let's see. At the drive-in. What is that? More fast food?

It's another band. Actually, Connor. Sorry. And then, damn, this is actually difficult. Barbecue. Texas barbecue. Okay. That's a good one. That's a pretty good one.

You're like, I know that one. I knew Frito Pies, fucker. Top. How do you make a Frito pie? Is you how do you make a Frito pie fucker? Without the sex. Without the sex. All right.

Our next who's to check needs to be without the sex. Who's to check? Without the sex. Talks, Jacob, calling it from Denver, Colorado. What's up, Jacob? Called a couple weeks ago about the heartbreak advice. Y'all really helped to appreciate your life. Oh, wow.

But I got to say right now, listen here, Steve. Van, I'm not going to stop texting your wife. I'm never going to stop texting your wife. You can go to all the couples therapy you want, man. It is not going to stop me, man. You're taking her out to P.F. Chang's, I'm going to take her out to Benny Hanna, man. What are you going to do, and you know what? You really want to do something about it?

Let's do this. Let's both apply to be mailman. We both live in Denver. We both become mailman of Denver. Boom. We settle it in the mailman fight league. Love it. Winner gets your wife.

Without the sex No, with So yeah How'd you start up In the postal service I got dumped And I called into Some bullshit

Combat Sports show And left a voicemail Looking for advice And they gave me it And then some guy took Up You know, issue with that And then he challenged me

To a mailman fight league And so we fought And I Had to become a mailman So that's how I got the job But it's also I met my wife Because I beat Stephen's

and won his wife in the mailman fight league. And then they're like, sir, the police are on their way. Yeah. I'm just glad he had a good sense of humor about that call. Shout out. Glad you're doing better on the Warbra. I was trying to forget him from Denver, Colorado. I'm not a bad guy.

You are too late. That'd be a funny joke. Again, not a bad guy. Steven, Paul, just you and your wife. Still, you're going to see in the mail and fight late. He's got to preface. I'm not a bad guy. All right, thank you.

You can't preface. We've already. He seems like a very nice young man. Shout to Stephen, man. I hope the heartbreak. No, no. He's, uh... Oh, yeah.

Stephen is... Shout to Jacob. Shout out to Stephen, too. And most importantly, shout out to Stephen's wife. I hope the couple's counseling is going well. Hey, guys. Thank you, Link from Pittsburgh here. Thanks for the...

Link again. About the bowling. Anyways, quick question. I remember the bowling advice. Someone from pride, a current UFC champion, and an announcer from any sport that you want. Let me know. Wait, re-rack that?

Re-rack that? And before we re-rack, did we actually give this guy bowling advice? I don't know. No, no, I think there was a question, but I don't remember what we said. What advice can we give about bowling? Hey, guys, stinky link from Pittsburgh here.

Thanks for the advice about the bowling. Anyways, quick question. Dream blunt rotation. Okay. Someone from Pride. a current UFC champion and an announcer from any sport that you want.

Pride UFC champ announcer from any sport Pride I'm taking Rampage Yeah that's a safe choice We'll be chilling

Current UFC champion I'm actually going to take Volk because he's going to cook up the munchies afterward I watched That's so smart Go to his YouTube channel And go watch his 45 minute video

I watched last night While I was just knocking out some work He just details his life on the farm It was tremendous Like he gets all his veggies He's got cows He's got goats Like he's got all this stuff on the farm

And at one point him and his dad Who's like the most Bush Australian dude With like this giant mustache They like cook up this incredible meal where it's like peppers, homemade sourdough, feta from their goats, and, like, salami. And, like, they just eat it with their hands off the land. Ripping it like that, post-blunt, amen. Love that.

And then in terms of an announcer, the Dodgers guy, Joe, what's his face? Now, I'd go, I'd probably go Mike Breen because he'd bring the Benyez. At Cafe Dumont. I love yours. Yours is fantastic. I'm going to go for pride. I'm going to go Don Fry. Because I just think it would be funny as fuck.

That'd be a great one. To hear Don Fry. Yeah. Do you smoke on a bleaser with Donnie Fry? I'm going to pair it with... Do I do Tom or Alex? I'm going to pair it with Tom. We're doing Tom Don Fry.

And the announcer is Iron Eagle. I love that. And he's commentating us smoking the blunt. And then you have a joke. in your back pocket the whole time after you finish the blunt and you guys are going to get food you and Don Frye say you're like walking

into like a McDonald's and like his eyes are super red and you look at him and you're like more like Don Fried am I right and then pat him on the back. It's like it's perfect. It's perfect. Who else could we get as a commentator? I'm down for Johnny Annick if he wants to hop in. James Johnny? John Gooden

if we want a British class it up a little bit? Yeah yeah a British dude on a little bleaser with a Brit. Do you guys remember last week this individual calling in talking about the nudist community in Philadelphia that was doing bowling that's who it is.

That's what it was. The nudist bowling community. I don't remember what advice you gave in that. Also, it's Pittsburgh. It's Stinky Link. Oh, Pittsburgh. You're right, yeah. It was Connor basically saying you wouldn't catch me

ever doing this nudish shit. Yeah, I ain't going though with my balls up, bro. No one needs to see that. I've actually had discussions. Without the sex. Without the sex. I've had discussions, like, obviously, public and decency, like, you can't be nude in public. Yeah. New York is a crazy city.

This is obviously who would never do this, but out of curiosity, how far do you think you could make it? If you just tried to begin your commute home, butt-ass naked. Oh, man. I think I would not get through Penn Station, guaranteed. Yeah, no shit. Once I get to Penn. There's police there. There's police there.

Like, I might be able to get from the subway here to Penn. Yeah. Like, people would obviously be leaving the train and reporting it. Yeah. The moment I get to Penn Station, I am tackled by 17 police officers. Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking subway is probably where it stops because that's when people start, like, freaking out.

Honestly, on the side of, I have a decent walk to get to my subway station. I'm probably getting stopped before the subway. All it takes is one cop seeing you. I've just always wondered that, you know? It's just like how far could you make it? I think Frank said he wanted to test it one time. Boys in the back, it's your guy, Matt, from Nashville. What's up, Matt?

I just finished up a 13-hour shift driving home. Listening to the Aero Huanian show, it's a Monday. Got a couple things for you. G.C. Yes. On the beginning of this show, you started singing some creed. Yeah. You got to step your game up, my dude.

You got to work on your Scott. You got to stick your chin out as far as it'll go. You got to try to make your tongue As wide as that can go And you got to store that voice Right behind your front teeth And got to Will you take me higher

To the blind men see You gotta really Really go for it man Love left your game I look forward to hearing Your next improved version next week Anyways on to the question Do you guys prefer

a pay-per-view fight card that is a showcase for a specific weight class or just like a scatter shot of all different weight classes but just stacked with good fights um i prefer a showcase for the weight class like this last weekend uh just because it kind of creates a lot of conversations creates a lot of what if it's a lot of fun uh but that's just my opinion as always I appreciate you boys Week in and week out always showing up B-I-T-P

Well appreciate you Matt Good voice on them too Great voice on them Where blind men see And if you don't know why we're saying that It's in reference to the Max Kellerman promo during Yos C-322 For some reason

Max Callerman was on a promo And for some reason they took Creed Creed as the background music It was And then he said McAulchev I'm opposite you

You said the stacked one, I like the weight class ones. Pack it up. Because I like the, all the conversation can focus on that one part versus like, it's like, oh, now, like, we're going to have the lightweight conversation and the welterweight conversation and it's going to spin forward. I want all of it on one. Give me all the combos. I like it. Turkey for me, turkey for you. I love to eat turkey in my big brown shoe.

What's good boys? Is that the creed song? In honor of the greatest holiday, Thanksgiving, I got to ask you, boys, who are you inviting over for Thanksgiving? Who mean? And what sides are you expecting them to bring? Your boys, have a blessed our weekend. Bokens out, baby. Can this be anyone, or is this just UFC?

Thanks for the call, Bokens. I think he's actually asking us, like, what are our Thanksgiving plans? And Frank had a nice tradition running two years. It's not happening? He bailed last year I was sick It's kind of a knife You had strep

Stig in the heart I had strep But I was still willing To give thanks Thanksgiving no sex I was like well I'm sick of this Thanksgiving

Without the sex Thanksgiving It's like the FS I'm just gonna keep it low key I think I might have my dad over my brother-in-law Like keep it small this year So I stay up here

Stay local As they say I'll actually be going to one of my good friends house is out in Jersey. Who me? Nope.

Not you, Frank. But you do know them. Shout out to him. Yeah. James Tihuno? It is James.

It is James. How'd you know? Yeah. So are you bringing a side dish? I'm going to bring a pie, two bottles of wine, and then the elder statesman

of the house. Really enjoys coffee ice cream. So I'm going to go to a nice creamery and get some. That's classic. High quality stuff for him. But yeah, I have not been at home.

for Thanksgiving since 2017 been kind of doing a smorgish board of different things this is like my third one with a different family it's kind of weird going to someone's Thanksgiving yeah when Frank would come over you hosted yeah but that was all friends it was no family like obviously like my parents weren't up here we were just up here because we do the show and everything and then you know I go back to oh is that a convenience yeah was that a convenience we've been a restaurant one year that wasn't bad that was fun um but yeah Yeah. Being like the non-family member at the family gathering, which is what I'm going to do this year.

Oh, yeah. That is tough. It's tough. It's tough. You know, you got to talk to the uncles and the aunts. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I've known them. Yeah, I've been friends with them for a while. No, yeah, I'm up here because of work. Yeah. Got the invite. No, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. No, I'm not dating anyone. No, I'm not here. No. Nope, not married to anyone. No, I'm not part of the family, man. I'm not part of the family. I just got the invite and I said yes to it. So the thing you got to know, though, is it's like the F's, you know. Yeah. The uncle is where I'm going to drop it. You just drop it on them. Have we done Thanksgiving list for, we did sides?

Yeah, I'm a stuffing guy, stuffing through and through. All right. Stoftop. I was thinking of a pound for, oh, no, no, no, safe top. Keep going. It's Stan Hooker Fight, we say, hey. Woo! Also, Rick, I was just a lot of.

wondering what football team you support? Wait, what? Football or soccer? I didn't hear what he said. What football team do you support? None. Rick, I was just wondering what football team you support.

None. I love the NFL. I watch a lot of football. I don't watch soccer, if that's what you were asking about. I love the NFL, but I don't have a team. I'm not like a Giants fan.

In fact, I don't have any sports teams. Definitely not New York sports teams. I have one team. It's the Cavaliers and Basketball. Everything else, like I watch other sports and just. just want to see a good game yeah yeah hey boys in the back it's gage from citro florida that's one of them put my two cents in

like john braylor i 100% thank because he avoided connor and your bike race i know you would have a one hot i'm great day thank you for everything you do i listen you guys every week i'm a great thank you for the call we appreciate the support sean's good in my buck you know yeah he ducked but he's got bigger those fighting words He's got bigger fish to fry. He's got bigger fish to fry, man. He'll be back. What's up, boys?

This is Mark again from Richmond. Just calling to say, I think we can stop with the quote conversation. It's done. It's finished. It's over. Another dominant performance by the quote. We know her. We love her.

Nine wins. One loss and last 10 fights. Yes, sir. Unbelievable. Come on a dominant performance over a game opponent. Fatty McLean, the quote. What? Who?

Fattyma. Oh, oh, Faddy McClyne. I thought he said. Is it not Faddy McLean? I thought he said, Patty McLean. I was like, who the fuck is that? Is that some girl on Cage Warriors or something?

What's the deal? Is that an Invicta fighter? I was like, well, what is going on here? Performance over a game opponent. Fatty McLean. Fatty McLean. He put the emphasis in an odd spot. Fatty McLean.

You need to take the same tactic as Chale. who won't say Valentina Shepchenko. I never say that. Who knows what Valentina Shepchenko? Who knows what Valentina Shepchenko sounds like coming out of Chale's mouth? It's got to be crazy. You need to take the same round

and never say Faddy McLean again and only call her, yes, Frank, the archangel. Or if you want a deep cut, call her the butcher. You didn't think the butcher who's going to lose the angel of hell? In New York.

I thought your nickname was the Archangel. Fatty McLean, everybody. Good guy Boy's in the back That's the D-Rock What's up D-Rock? Coming to you from St. Petersburg, Florida Shut up

My question to you guys I've ever had an eye injury I pose, maybe a sports injury I'll go first since mine just happened Sunday morning I'm tired I stayed up late, I watched a paper view My son

Go to change him Two and a half years old Dude goes full Zero gone I'm talking fingers excited. I could not open my eyes for at least five minutes, probably close to 10 minutes. And even then, it hurt like hell opening. Even my right eye didn't want to open.

I wanted to D. Keel him. Wife said, not intentional, no intent, so he only took a point, worn his ass one more time, son. You're out of here. So, let me know, boys. Have a good, best of week. Love it. I've never had an eye poke. Have you ever had a sports injury, though?

Nah, just a couple of, like, styes. That's about it. Wow. Oh, you're saying, like, in your life, no injuries, period. No, no, no. Eye injury. Oh, yeah, I know you've had. Yeah, we've talked about them before.

Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, he said them on the air before. Interesting. I had an ulcer on my eye once. That was fucked. Frank, any sports injuries, early high school days? Broke my femur. Damn, yeah, you have told me that.

No, you know, I just like the bruises that even. get in like football that looked like strawberries and they like burst all the blood vessels everywhere those were wrong. How did you break your femur? What was the femur story? So my mom right now. That's pretty good. You know the crane kick from karate kid? Yeah. Shut the fuck up.

I literally did that off of my couch when I was four. Landing on my leg, snapped my femur. By the way, that counts as a sports injury, but oh my God, Frank. I was in a bodycast for 12 weeks. Wait, why did they full body cast you? Because I was

an age where they were like if we let this grow it'll actually heal itself without needing a rod or anything if we could just keep him still oh my god i was in a body cast and then fortunately like my legs are the same length like no weirdness happen which is what would normally happen um with the femur so holy shit frank that's crazy thanks for breaking the fourth wall femur i've heard thanks for breaking my femur what dare you sir i've heard uh i've heard the femur is about as bad as it gets Usually fatal, just saying I am usually Wait, what?

The largest bone in your body It's such a trauma That it could create a lot of blood loss Maybe the largest bone in your body Without the sex I I tore every ligament in my ankle The only, like

I was playing basketball And somebody stepped on Put their foot under mine And I stepped on their foot And rolled my ankle To the point that I tore everything every ligament, every tenet, everything that connected the ankle, and the only thing that did not break was the bone.

The bone was there, and everything else around it was completely torn into shreds. And the recovery on that was rough. I was on crutches for like six months. My worst is the con chopping the pinky down to the bone. It was tough. Yeah, I actually went to the doctor recently. He's like, so that's it.

Just that's as much as it'll go? Yeah, that's it. Old hook hand over here. Yeah, that was intense. My wife Holly was with me. me when that happened. This is high school senior year. She walked me to the nurse's office.

Is that how you knew she was the one? No, actually. That's not how she knew Rick was the one. She's like, oh my God, he died. Damn. All right. Keep it going. Hey, boys in the back. It's Sammy, yeah? Sean on the same. Hey, Sammy. What's up, brother? I'd say

three weeks until I graduate from my college. Oh, congrats, man. three years and my college I've learned a lot I've developed a lot I'm looking forward to the next chapter in my life

obviously you guys have inspired me so much I get inspired by you guys every week in different ways but you know the interview that I did with the floor bowl six or five-time champion in the world

that inspired me this week on Friday I'm going to my school and I'm going to be part of the school podcast as a guest Congrats man That itself makes me for like a in-studio guest

I mean Yeah just You guys inspired me and help me And make me believe in myself Even more Just to do you know I can do things and yeah so just wish you guys I was super lovely November and lovely December Christmas and good year good to finish to the end of the year for you

guys for the show for you guys for your personal lives and yeah just have a great show guys thanks Sammy we really appreciate the call man congratulations on getting ready to graduate we appreciate your support man it really it really means a lot, dude. And same to you. Finish the year off well, brother. Yeah. Enjoy that podcast. Have fun. Thank you, Sammy. Hey, guys, if you all could just bow your heads real quick so we could just

pray to M. May God, I would appreciate it. Sure, sure, sure. May God, we come to you today that we have a fight this Saturday in Qatar, Dan Hooker versus Armin Sarukin. Yeah, thanks, by God. I just ask him, May God, that you make Dan Hooker Victoria. Oh, shit. And I like to do a take down.

Do a ground and pound. Do a submission. act that there has the strength the stuff would take down. The strains to avoid a submission. The strength of you is striking M. M. M. M.A. God's. We know Amos Rooka loves the ego, so we act that he receives a two pieces of the

soda from there on Saturday evening. May God, I don't ask for much, but he can just do this for us. We would appreciate it. Amen. In M.M.A. God's name. Oh, fuck. That's a funny call. That's a funny call. But we're not really, look, I mean, we like

both guys. either of my god this shirt the more i look at it it shows up great on camera oh it's so good this a good shirt shout to engage man shout out to engage shout out to dan the hang man uh shout out to y'all for the voicemails thanks so much for calling him we really appreciate it each and every week before we get out of here a bit more breaking news yeah pfl excited to announce that lightweight champion usmander magamadov will defend his title against 2025 PFL World Tournament Champion, Alfie Davis, live from Dubai's Coca-Cola Arena on Saturday, February 7th. Massive start to 2026 for the promotion.

Massive start to 2026 for combat sports. We're going to have Ryan Garcia fighting the week before. We'll have UFC 324 the week before that. And it looks like we're going to get a big card out in Dubai for PFL to kick off 2026. I can't believe it's almost here. About six weeks left in 2025, man. This year has gone into hyperdrive. Yeah, nice to see Usman getting a fight already.

Like, you know, to keep him active. I do wonder, and also, like, Alfie had a fantastic run in the tournament. It makes a lot of sense. I like the fight a lot. I do wonder how many fights Usman has left on his deal because he is getting awfully close with Dana White and Hunter Campbell every time we see him up on that stage or around Fight Week. But while you've got him, he's one of your biggest attractions and you keep rolling out, Usma.

Have to imagine when that contract runs up, he'll be heading over to the UFC. I would assume so just because I think the toughest challenges are there for him. But who knows? Look, if you're the PFL, that's the type of guy you want to retain, right? He's been with Bellator. He's been outside the UFC. Try to make it worth his while. There might be a business justification to be like, look, we can't offer him quite what the UFC can. in terms of the opponent, so maybe it's not worth it. We can't come.

Like, Paul Hughes, they could have continued that story if it wasn't 2-0 Usman. Like now, now it kind of becomes harder. So you, like, Alfie Davis and then what? Yeah,

it gets those matchups that are, that are just the A side. Yeah, so who knows, who knows what the future holds, but in the meantime, like the fight, like that the PFL's keeping them active.

This is not, like, you know, when, when they first made the acquisition, everything was like, they're not giving me fights. We're not fighting frequently enough. Champion, just one, right back in there.

I like it. I'm happy with it. I'm with it as well. Shout out to the PFL for getting that done. And shout out to y'all for sticking with us for this long. That's going to do it for us. UFC Qatar in the books, enjoy this weekend. Don't forget to tune into the crack tomorrow.

Pizza Carrey will get you ready for that card. And then Saturday, Pizzie Carroll, Chuck Min and all, Ariel won it? Yeah. Host show after UFC Guitar, probably having around 4, 4.30. Make sure to tune into that Eastern time, 11.30, 6.7. Who knows? Thanks for watching.

See you next week. We're out of here. Not even supposed to be here today. Thank you.