The Ariel Helwani Show - Live From Miami! Feat. Jorge Masvidal & Kayla Harrison | The Ariel Helwani Show
Episode Date: December 19, 2025The Ariel Helwani Show is live from Hard Rock Cafe in downtown Miami!After welcoming in the capacity crowd (00:30), Ariel is joined on stage by UFC bantamweight champion Kayla Harrison (07:50) to disc...uss her upcoming fight against Amanda Nunes and more.The King of Miami, Jorge Masvidal, joins Ariel and ATT teammate Harrison on stage (29:05) to talk about the gym's dynamics, break down Harrison vs. Nunes, and tease his own 2026 comeback.Ariel wraps up the show by answering questions from the crowd (56:55).
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Eria, Hawaii Show!
Yes, we are here.
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, how are you?
Hello, my friends, my family is here.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
My actual parents are here, guys.
This is crazy.
Hello, sir. Happy Hanukkah, Mama, how are you? My sister is here. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I didn't expect to see them right off the bat, so I had to say hello. They live in Montreal and they're here in Miami like all of you are for this amazing, amazing, impromptu live show. How great is this? Hello, everyone over there. Thank you so much for coming here. Really, really appreciate this. You know, I was walking over here. I was just at the Wayans, by the way. I don't know if you guys saw me at the Wayans.
was there, you were there. How many of you, by the way, are here for the Jake Joshua fight or
just that you guys? All right. How many of you are going? Okay. Anyone think Jake is actually
going to do this? Okay. Holy shit. All right. Well done. Anyway, I was just at the way into his
incredible. Anthony Joshua, the tall glass of milk that he is, if you know what I'm saying, was in
front of me. His freaking muscles, his biceps were like poking me in the face. And I'm standing there
and Jake's there, and I'm like, holy shit, this is actually
happening. This is actually going to happen.
And then I ran to my room. I got
changed real quick. I wasn't wearing this.
And then I was looking at the lights
and we're here in December in this
beautiful city. I love this city.
I hate your sports teams. I'm sorry.
I hate your sports teams. I just want to say that.
I don't know if there are any locals. I don't like that
jersey. Go bills, baby.
Yes. Go bills.
Reigning, defending
AFC East Champions.
You know the vibes. And oh, by the way,
I was at the Kaseya Center earlier, and I was looking for the NBA Cup banner.
You guys don't have an NBA Cup banner, but the New York Knickabockers will hoist theirs after they win their championship.
That's Yilwani coming out.
Anyway, I want to get to my point.
Yeah, yeah, we don't care about those.
We care about the NBA Cup.
I was looking at the lights and we're here, and it's December, and I usually come here with my family on vacation in December.
And I was thinking, I was looking at the arena, the Kasea Center.
and I remembered that back in 2006, I convinced my sister and my brother to go to the Kasea Center
to watch Monday Night Raw on January 1st when Kevin Federline went up against John Sina.
And we sat in the rafters in the 400s to watch that.
They didn't care about wrestling, but we went because I'm the big wrestling fan.
And now, some 20 years later, I'm working an event on Netflix, this massive fight card,
being in the ring, doing exactly what I've always wanted to do,
interviewing the fighters, being on television, being on a platform like that.
It's huge. Thank you.
But at the same time, at the same time, I'm doing all of that.
I'm doing the Netflix thing. I'm living my dream. I'm interviewing the fighters.
But at the same time, over here, we've got New York Rick.
We've got G.C. Connor Burks. We've got Andy, our friend.
fearless leader. We've got mysterious Frank in the back. You will never see him. We've got on-air
Jordan back home. We've got Rob and Matt here from Yahoo. On the other side of things,
not just the Netflix thing. That's great. But we have the uncrowned family here. My family,
the platform that we built with our hands, the number one unbiased combat sports platform
in the freaking world doing our show, a show before a big fight. This is always what I wanted to do.
so to have these two worlds, this juxtaposition,
happening at the same time in this great city,
it makes me very emotional.
I'm not going to lie, I'm very, very happy to be here.
I want to say happy holidays to everyone.
Happy Hanukkah, if you're celebrating,
fifth night of Hanukkah, much love.
Merry Christmas coming up.
Happy New Year.
We have a massive, massive show.
We have a massive show for all of you.
I don't know if you saw any of these great pictures,
but we've got a couple of luminaries in the house.
We got a couple of Florida's finest in the house.
This is going to be amazing.
In about 20 to 30 minutes time, the pride of Miami, Cuban Jesus, Street Jesus, Jorge Masvidal, the original BMF champion will be joining us.
He is in the building, and I can't wait for that.
Prior to that, in a couple minutes' time, we'll be joined by, in my opinion, someone that will go down when it's all said and done as the greatest female fighter of all time.
Two-time Olympic gold medalist in judo.
Multiple-time PFL champion.
UFC current reigning, defending women's bat and weight, that's 135 pounds, by the way, champion.
And the one that's going to take down the goat in a little over a month's time, Amanda Nunes at UFC 324.
Kayla Harrison is also going to be joining us in a matter of seconds right here and now on this stage.
I want to give a shout out to the Hard Rock Cafe.
Oh, what do we have here?
Wow, look at this.
It's Connor Brooks, everyone, G.C.
Wow, a special delivery.
Thank you so much, sir.
From our good friends at DoorDash.
What timing, that's unbelievable.
A special delivery from our good friends at DoorDash.
If they weren't a part of this, this wasn't happening.
So please, give them a big shout out.
Give them some love.
Miami.
DoorDash.
So happy, so honored, so privileged to be linked up with them.
this iconic bag. When I told my kids that DoorDash was going to be presenting this show,
they were blown away. It's their favorite app. They do the double dash. Anyone do the double dash?
They love the double dash. It's massive. Anyway, this is a little heavy, so I'm going to open this
real quick. Oh, he zipped it up for me. This is amazing. Thank you so much to Hard Rock Cafe in Miami for
having us. I appreciate you all very much. Oh, look at this. Look at this. Look at this.
Also, let's give a shout out to our good friends over at Celsius.
Look at this brand synergy, as they say in the business.
Oh, yeah.
Salute to all of you guys.
There's also a little hat here that I am seeing.
Oh, the NBA Cup.
Yes, yes, the NBA Cup, the reigning, defending,
2025 champs, the New York Knickabockers.
Thank you so much.
This is wonderful.
All right.
Thank you.
I'm going to keep this here, and I'm going to cherish this.
This is amazing.
Wow, look at this set, by the way.
This is amazing.
Okay, I don't want to waste any more time.
Are you guys here to see me talk alone?
Are you here to see some of these people talk on the screen?
Yes, this is amazing.
And I do want to let you know after the show, we're going to be right over back there,
doing a little meet-and-greet, take some pictures, answer all your questions,
do whatever it is that you do at these meeting-and-greets.
All right?
So, oh, yes, I have to put the DoorDash bag on the table.
I forgot about that, Frank.
Frankie, I forgot, Frankie, in the back, cracking the whip in my ear over here.
Look at that.
Who is, oh, I like that.
Thank you, Frankie.
Appreciate that.
Look how nice this looks.
It's amazing.
It almost looks like we're in like a rock and roll church with these guys back here.
It's incredible.
All right, like I said at the top, this woman, in my opinion, when it's all said and done,
is going to go down as the greatest female fighter of all time.
And when I say female fighter, I don't just mean mixed martial arts.
I mean fighter, period.
Two-time Olympic gold medalist, multiple-time PFL champion at 155.
pounds. I don't think you guys understand. In fact, in the back, I said to her, hey, do you want some
snacks? And she goes, I don't think you freaking understand how much weight I have to cut, how many
calories I have to eat a day, and it's not a lot to make 135. We need to give her a lot of respect
for that. She's the reigning, defending UFC women's batteumweight champion. She defends that
title in a bit over a month against Amanda Nudes. She is Kayla Harrison, everyone.
Yes. There she is. Kayla Harrison is here. Thank you so much. Please have a seat, Kayla. This is amazing. I can't believe you're actually here.
Me either. I threw like a Hail Mary to Kayla. I said, I know you like to stay home. I know you like to go to bed at like 8 o'clock. I know you live in the boondocks.
But would you mind joining us? And you did the classic, let me sleep on it. Yeah, obviously.
You prayed to God. You asked them. Well, yeah. And plus my children, my beautiful.
daughter, Kyla, my son Emory, my mother, Jeannie are in the audience with us. I said, we roll deep.
So if you want me to come out here tonight, Ariel, then you're going to have to bring my whole
crew. And we did it gladly. I think you embarrassed your son over there. He put his hands on this.
Oh, he doesn't get embarrassed. Show him the guns, babe. Yeah. I love it. I hope they know their mom is a badass.
Well, thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate it. That's my pleasure.
So tell me about that. I did ask you if you wanted some snacks and you almost bit my head off.
Yeah, listen, we're deep in camp. We're like 37 days away.
I mean, I tell people, like, I train for basically, I eat like a bodybuilder, so I'm on like
1,200 calories a day. I train for a marathon. I run 6 miles every day, 8 miles on Sunday.
And I'm also training for a fight, so you don't have to be quiet.
I'm used to doing interviews in a quiet studio here, all this chatter.
He obviously has never been to Miami.
Yes, okay. All right, that is true. I'm in Northeastern. So, but you're okay. I'm great.
Okay. Best shape of my life.
So, interestingly enough, last time we spoke, you were just about to head out to Vegas to do the presser and all that, and then you did the face off. So tell us, what did you feel? What were the vibes? What happened then?
Yeah, it was great. Honestly, I'm super pumped. I have a lot of respect for Amanda, and she's considered the goat for a reason. But,
we did the face-off and I saw a little bit of like a nervous twitch.
Really?
There was like a little bit of a lip twitch.
Wow.
And then she was like, let's go cutie.
And that's what she, we used to call each other when we trained together, cutities.
And I was like, oh, she's nervous.
What makes you think that she's nervous based on saying that?
I saw the lip twitch.
You saw it?
Yeah.
Is that common?
I mean, my lips don't twitch.
No, I understand that.
But do you usually see that from your opponents?
Because like...
Sometimes.
Yeah.
You can read it.
Have you ever faced off with someone?
I mean...
You can feel the energy.
100%, but she's the supposed goat.
Yeah, I'm Kayla fucking Harrison.
Yeah!
That's what I'm talking about.
Were you surprised to see that?
Were you surprised to see that?
No, I mean, no.
I know Amanda's personality.
What does that mean?
Come on, come on.
No, I mean, I just know that there are two,
types of athletes, right? There are workhorses. You got to, every day you got to take that horse
out to work, you got to work them, you got to work them, you got to work them. And the day that
you don't work them, they die. And there are thoroughbreds. Now thoroughbreds, you can't work.
You just got to let them show up on race day. And they're a little skittish and they're a little
nervous and they get scared easily. And Amanda's a thoroughbred and I'm a workhorse.
Wow, wow, wow. That's an incredible way to break it all down. Why do you think she's coming
back? I don't know, but I'm glad she is. I mean, it's great for you. You think she's coming back
just because you're the champion? I don't, yeah, I mean, I think that she cleaned out the division.
She did everything that she wanted to do. She has a beautiful family. She has a beautiful life.
So it's tough to get out of bed when you're sleeping in silk pajamas, and hopefully I'm reasoned enough
to get out of bed. Do you think that she still has that fire, or do you think she's just coming back
for a payday? I mean, I pray for her that she has that fire.
Otherwise, it's going to be a long night in the office.
How far away do you guys train from each other?
I mean, I think we both live in the same city.
Wow.
Yeah.
Do you ever run into each other?
No, not typically.
I mean, I've, no, I don't think so.
But, like, do you hear things?
Do people come up to, oh, what does that like?
Like the neighborhood gossip?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know.
Is she a good neighbor?
Is she a good neighbor?
Does she put out her garbage?
Is she, like, good with the recycling?
all that stuff? Oh, I don't know about all that.
Okay. I just know, like, yeah.
The training. Do you have any concerns about her?
You know, I was talking to Chale Sondon about this earlier this week, and he's like,
why is this fight even happening at 135? What's the point? I know.
Do you have any concerns about her making 135?
I mean, I know the older you get, the less muscle your body holds, so maybe she's lost some
muscle during her time off but I know that she's a big girl and she also has to cut a lot
of weight to make 135 pounds and I know how hard it is so you know that's between Amanda and God
but I'll be there January 23rd weigh and 135 pounds love it is there a backup I don't know
I mean looking at the card there isn't another unless I'm forgetting about a fight there
I don't think there is another 1.30.
So what happens?
What happens?
I will be really pissed off.
Yes, because you're going to have to kill yourself, but, you know, get pretty damn close.
What if she comes overweight, but...
I mean, I still do the fight.
You still do the fight.
You still do the fight.
And only you are the champion in that.
I mean, I'm just, I would still, it does.
I'm going to, only me is going to be the champion no matter what.
Yes, yes, yes.
I'll still, I'll do the fight at whatever weight she weighs.
But there's got to be a limit, right?
No.
Really?
I'd fight her if she came in a...
I'm down.
Wow.
All right.
By the way.
When you're the best in the world, you're the best in the world.
It doesn't matter.
And when you're the best in the world, they don't call you the best in the world.
They call you Kayla Harrison.
By the way, you're not born in Florida.
You're born in the Northeast.
Yep.
You moved here.
Eight years ago.
When do you think she moved here?
I don't know.
Why do you keep asking me questions about it?
Ask Amanda.
Because I want to know, is Miami, is Florida a Kayla Harrison state or an Amanda?
Nuna State. Is it a Kayla Harrison state?
All right. Let's go, Miami.
Is Miami an Amanda Nunes city?
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
This is my city. Yes.
Why cutie patootie?
Cutee. Cutee. I don't know. I can't really remember who called who that, who
that first, but it was just like, I don't know. I think she,
something about a picture. She commented, like, cutie, and I put back pitutie, and then
when we were at the gym, we'd call you, like, what's up, cutie? Did you always feel
like there was something there, like it was inevitable? Like, when you were at the gym, did you
keep your... Not for me. You never felt that way? No. Because I would think, as you're coming
up, she's the gold standard. Well, first of all, we've been talking about this fight since
before I had my first MMA fight. We've been talking about her and Chris Cyborg and myself, since
before I had a fight.
Right.
And I have made, it's not a secret that I started MMA to be the best in the world.
She is the best in the world.
She was the best in the world.
So like, it was always, I thought clear as day, like, hey, I want what you have, but it's
not in a disrespectful way.
It's in like a, I admire what you've accomplished, and I'm reaching for that.
That's how high I want to climb.
I mean, at the time, I was in a different promotion.
I was in a different weight class.
I was under contract for years and years.
Like, it wasn't like this, oh my gosh, is it going to happen?
Like, we weren't in the same, we weren't even in the same weight class.
Right.
So it was never like a, I always felt like there's room enough at the table for both of us.
And scarcity is a myth.
And actually, for me, imagine how good we could get if we train together.
Two of the best people in the world training together every day.
Are you shitting me?
But that's my mentality.
Like, if I go to the gym, I want to train with the best person in the room every time.
And how many rounds do you think you've sparred?
With Amanda?
Yeah.
Ever?
Ever.
Two rounds.
Two rounds.
And what happened at the end of the second?
Ariel.
What happened?
What happens in sparring, stays in sparring.
Oh, okay, okay.
I'm a woman of honor.
I'm not going to do that.
You can tell us like...
Well, it was my very first...
I hadn't even had a fight yet.
Wow.
It was my very first week.
I had...
I had gone to Jersey to train, I had gone to Vegas to train, and then I came down here to train and check it out.
It was my second day here.
I hadn't even had a fight yet.
And we sparred.
Full on?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, she kicked my ass.
I'm not going to pretend like she didn't, but.
What's the but?
But.
Was it a two-round sparring session?
It wasn't scheduled to be.
That's what I mean.
Ariel.
Let's move on.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
You're going to find out on January 24th.
A lot of people first show on Paramount, and it should have been the main event on Paramount.
It should, am I right?
Am I right?
Am I right?
There's a time-honored tradition in this business.
The undisputed title fight goes on last.
No interim belt.
I mean, yeah, I think that the belt means something.
I agree.
It should mean something.
actually coming around. Well, I never thought that you were wrong. I just like, you left me on an
island there when I asked you, but you're like, uh, uh, control the controller bowls. I'll do this.
You know, I'll fight first so I could go to bed. You know, who cares? I still stand by that.
Yeah. I mean, you know exactly when you're going to fight when you're fighting first. I get that.
Yeah. And you can like go to dinner. Restrances are still open. You've earned the right to headline the
card. You've earned the right to close the show. Thank you. You've earned that. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, this is
You know, my prayer is that this is the greatest fight in women's MMA history, that we
shatter glass ceilings, that we absolutely steal the show, and that from us going out there
and being two of the best athletes in the world, we inspire, you know, 20,000 other little
girls to go pick up a ghee and put on their step onto the mat and try martial arts.
And then 10 years from now, my career won't hold a candle to the things that the girls are doing.
You know, that's the goal.
It's to keep climbing.
By the way, you had such a...
Yes, yes.
I love that.
You don't have to clap at everything I say, but I do appreciate it.
I do appreciate it.
It's like the Donahue show.
You always have to clap when someone does, I don't know if you guys know the Donahue show.
That's an old...
Ricky Lake.
Ricky Lake, okay.
Judo.
Your background in judo.
By the way, did you know that my uncle...
Yes, we've talked about this multiple times.
Many times.
1976 Olympics, David said, look it up.
Anyway.
Ariel has an Olympic pedigree.
I do.
I have Olympic DNA.
Actually, that's my mom's brother.
My parents are right.
And your parents are here, right?
Where are they?
Right there in the front.
Hi, guys.
Hi.
That's my mom's brother, 1976 Olympics.
They went to go see him.
What was it like raising a kid like Ariel, huh?
What was that like?
A dream.
Did he ever stop talking?
Okay.
No, he still has it.
They originally thought I was going to be a lawyer
because I would ask a lot of questions.
You would have been a great lawyer.
But then we didn't know about journalism being a career, and now look at us, right?
And look at him now! Look at him!
Isn't this amazing?
But why I mentioned judo, why do you think more judicas don't come over?
I feel like judo is the perfect, like, foundation for M.A.
And I feel?
Listen, yeah, so listen, like wrestling, great.
You can take him down.
You can control them.
But you don't know submissions.
Judo, not only can you take him down, but you know submissions.
Jiu-jitsu, you don't really know how to take him down, but you can.
You can submit them 500 different ways.
Judo has both.
So I've always felt like judo is a great background, a great starting point.
Yeah, a foundation, right?
Yeah, a great foundation for mixed martial arts.
And, I mean, I don't know.
I don't have a good answer to that.
I think that most countries you make a good living doing judo.
Like their Olympic teams are government funded.
They get, you know, they make a decent living.
And by the way, like getting punched in the face is not for the faint of heart.
Okay, okay.
It's real different.
It's real different from judo.
Right, because there's actually, like you're not getting punched in judo, but you are getting hit.
I mean, I did judo for 20 years and I had a lot of injuries and a lot of wear and tear in my body, but like nothing compares to like, yeah, getting elbowed in the face.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay, so now here we are.
It's the end of the year.
Yeah.
Big 2026 coming up.
Yep.
You're starting the damn year, first show.
Yep.
If you can lay out your perfect 20s.
I'm going to whoop Amanda's ass on January 24th.
Yes, yes.
And then I'm going to hopefully
whoop Valentina's ass at the White House.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Is that...
Is that a thing?
I mean, she said she's open to it. Why not?
Wow, wow, wow. So she would move up.
I think she said that she...
Yes, she's not against it.
Has that been laid out for you?
No, I'm just...
I'm manifesting.
I'm laying it out.
How big of a deal with that be for you to fight at the White House?
Listen, I am like a patriot through and through.
I'm America's, you know, I have had the honor of representing our country at not one, but two Olympics.
I have won our country's first Olympic gold medal in the sport of judo.
Like, I have met.
I have always.
carried the flag with honor
and I've met three
sitting presidents so yeah I think
it would be a very fitting
part of the journey to
fight at our nation's capital
but honestly like if anyone deserves
to be on there it's you given that given what
you've done for this country
I mean you're only as good as your last fight
so one step at a time fair enough fair enough
by the way three sitting presidents so who are they
Obama Biden and
wow wow wow wow wow
that's amazing who is who is your favorite
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, we're not doing this.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, Lord.
Have you started to, like, dream about the fight?
Do you have a vision?
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I've been visualizing this fight for a long time.
How is it playing out in your mind?
I'm going to go out there and dominate, you know?
I prepare for, I prepare for 25 hard minutes, but one rounds at a time, one exchange
your time, one breath at a time, one minute at a time.
I'm going to go out there and instill my will, and I'm going to win by KOT, K-K-O or submission.
Wow.
Wow, wow. What do you guys think? K-O or submission? What are we feeling?
K-ha-ho? This dude's saying round one. This dude's saying round one.
Round one? This dude's saying round two. Ground and pound?
I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
We're feeling ground and pound?
I mean, I think that if I don't break her face that she's going to give up and I'm going to tap her.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Do you think this is one and done for her?
Yeah.
You think she doesn't fight after this?
Yeah.
Wow. Is that part of the goal?
No. It's not personal for me.
It's not.
At all? There's a history there. There was once...
The history is for her. I didn't leave the gym.
I didn't feel threatened. I didn't... Yeah. I mean, I'm good.
Do you think it's personal for her?
Probably. I mean, ask her.
I know. I just think what the... What the...
It seems like it's a little personal.
Yeah. Did you see her in the back? Did you talk to her? Did you exchange any words that we didn't
No.
What did you make of her demeanor on the stage when you guys were answering questions and all that?
Not the face-off, but just like her overall demeanor.
She seems excited. Yeah.
She seems excited.
That's what I want.
I want the best Amanda.
I don't want like some watered-down, you know.
I hope that she shows up as her best self.
Because on my worst night, I'm the best in the world.
Wow.
The amazing thing about Kayla is that she would always tell me that she didn't like sports entertainment and she didn't like wrestling.
Meanwhile, she's one of the best promos in the game.
It's not a promo if you believe it.
No, but you cut these lines.
You say these things that other people who believe in themselves
don't deliver the way in which you do.
Yeah, I don't know.
I genuinely mean, it's not an act.
I'm being myself.
If you meet me on the street, I'm the same person as if you meet me here.
Maybe not inside the cage.
I'm a little different.
But, yeah, I am who I am.
And I'm at a place in my life and an age, and I don't know if it's wisdom or what,
but I'm proud of who I am and what I've accomplished and what I stand for.
And I did it my way.
Hell yeah.
Do you agree with what I said earlier, greatest female fighter of all time?
If it's all said and done.
If I'm not there, I'm getting close, yeah, soon.
I mean, look at the resume.
For now.
Greatest fighter of all time, like, that's the goal.
And I know that it won't be for forever.
I'm just, you know, I think that.
so many people think that like when you want to like you want to get to the top of the mountain right
like you want to be the greatest you want to be the best you want to be ufc champion you want to be
olympic champion and like that's the top of the mountain and my whole life i did that i tried to get to
the top of the mountain but what comes after the top you have a huge drop and for me i've changed it
like it's not just about getting to the top of the mountain or staying at the top of the
mountain like I have realized over the course of my life that it's a journey and it's not just about
the top it's not just like yes that's great that part is amazing getting the belt wrapped around you
is amazing being considered the goat is amazing you know all of these things gold medals they're all
amazing but do you know what's even more amazing aerial like the people I met on the journey the places
I've been because of judo and because of fighting the person I've become like I have
have an indomitable spirit and I am
unfuck withable because of
the journey and for that I'm
grateful.
The kids like to use the word
glazing when they're giving someone
compliments? Yeah, you don't know this term?
Like D1 Glazer?
Logan Paul once called... No, I don't know that term.
Anyway... D1 glazer, though. There it is.
Logan called me a D1 glazer. I'm still not over it. Anyway,
so we're doing a lot of glazing here. There is one
blemish on the record. Oh, yes there is. This woman, Larissa Pacheco, who's no longer in the
PFL, has been training with Amanda, it seems. How do you feel about this? Indifferent. I mean...
They're not historically training partners to the best of my knowledge. So it seems like, okay,
let's bring in... Yeah, probably like a little bit of like a mind tactic. Yeah, gamesmanship.
Yeah. Which is great. I love that Amanda wants to like do that. I mean, it doesn't work, but
I think it's actually kind of
like Larissa is a
orthodox striker
I'm a South Paul grappler
so like make it make sense
Yeah okay but whatever
Do it for the photos do it for the gram
Oh you don't even think it's real perhaps
Oh I mean I don't know
I don't spend a lot of time thinking about other people
And what they're doing I focus on me
I get that the fighter that fought Larissa
I felt when you fought her that last time
Yeah I felt like you were kind of like I'm done with the PFL
Like you meet her twice right?
Right? There was just no motivation there anymore.
Yeah, I mean, that's on me.
You know, like at the end of the day, it's my job to show up and to fight.
And that night, I wasn't my best self.
I think there were a lot of things going on, but the loss is on me and on me alone.
My team prepared me as best they could.
They had a good game plan.
The coaches are amazing.
I just didn't execute.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Now, you are the captain of American top team.
You're damn right, I am.
The captain of American top team.
Would it be fair to say that perhaps the honorary captain?
I do have a co-captain, but he doesn't, he's not as diligent as I am about showing up.
Who's the co-captain?
Oh, okay.
Because I was going to say, I didn't know.
Okay.
I consider him like an honorary co-captain when he, when he deems it good enough to grace us with his presence.
Oh, well, let us break out.
Cuban Jesus Street Jesus.
Jorge Masvidda.
305, 305, 305, 300.
Oh, my God.
My guy, Jorge, man.
Look at this guy right here.
The original BMF champion.
The king of Miami.
Oh, my God.
If I'm going to say one thing real quick, just to clear something up.
Please.
You call me street Jesus and Cuban Jesus.
You know that ain't me, man.
I'm a believer of Jesus Christ is my Savior and King.
Amen.
I like when people bring attention to that, but I'm...
You're done with it.
He was trying to tell me in the back out.
He's changed his ways.
No, no, but that's never been made.
It's just people go with this.
You don't want to be known as that.
You don't feel comfortable.
I can't stop the internet.
The people are saying it, right?
Sure, sure.
I can at least tell you and...
Fair enough, fair enough, fair enough.
You're game bread.
You're game bread.
I've always been game bread.
Jesus has blessed me.
That's why I can't be here right now
live and talking to you.
Amen.
So I can't, I don't even like making that.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
And I say it out of love and respect, of course.
And another thing, you were going crazy on Miami teams.
I can't have slightly than that.
We're going to talk later, me and you.
You can't be doing that.
We have a lot of breath.
Let me rough.
You brought me here to talk about my teams, brother?
Yeah.
Don't worry.
How are the dolphins doing?
How are the dolphins doing?
How are we doing, dolphins?
Yeah.
But you still, you can't talk about it in Miami?
I got it.
I got it.
Well, it's great to have you.
By the way, I can't believe I'm actually staring at you guys.
I don't know who is harder to get here.
You who goes to sleep at 7.30?
It's still hard.
So how do you feel about what she just said about you being these sort of like honor?
When I retired, she became the official captain.
Oh, here we go.
Listen, listen.
And she'll tell you, I was part captainish, but more on the recruiting side.
Okay.
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
What is that mean?
I used to call Jorge the welcoming committee.
for all the young ladies.
No, no, no, okay.
Don't do that, don't do that.
That's a lie.
I was part of the recruiting committee, though.
Okay.
You know, so I had...
He did recruit the likes of Bo Nicol and...
Steve Mako's eyes.
And Steve Mocko.
And that's old school.
You always been there forever.
I helped for her.
I was there when she was there.
Is that true?
Whoa, whoa.
Is that true?
Was Jorge there when you came?
He helped with, like, my striking.
Sure, sure, sure.
No, no, but I helped him.
Like, yo, you got to come to this gym.
Once I met her, you got to come to his gym.
Yeah, he didn't.
He did. He helped seal the deal.
No, he's American top team until the day he died.
Like, he is, I remember being there.
I remember when they kicked out him and Colby.
Oh, my gosh.
There was all this drama.
And Jorge was like, man, Richie, love me back in the gym.
This is bullshit.
You know it's bullshit.
What did you do?
You were like banging on the doors?
Yeah, basically.
Really?
Yeah, they scorn me hard for like, I don't know, I'm going to say like five, six weeks.
Yeah, it was like a solid month, yeah.
Yeah, maybe a little bit more, you know, and it was uncalled for it, but whatever.
You know, let me back.
What did you do?
Did you train during that time or did you go somewhere?
Kobe's bitch ass is talking about my kids, my religion, everything for a while.
And Dan Haber doesn't say anything about it.
Then from one day to another, they put an ultimatum that unless you have a contract with somebody,
you can't talk about it because there was too much beef happening between the gym.
And since he did that, on that same day, I said, fuck you, Kobe, because Dan, you're not going to control me though.
I love you.
And they had to make an example.
So they kicked Kobe out and they kicked me out, but they brought my ass five weeks later.
Kobe's still gone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they brought back the real one.
They brought back the real one.
You ever see him around town?
I wish.
Yeah.
There was just that alleged time once, but that was it, right?
Allegedly, yeah.
That never, yeah.
There's no actual, like, evidence.
There's no footage over there.
I was home eating sushi, brother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know 100%.
Can I ask?
By the way, she just caught one of the best fucking promo.
She's great, right?
I've said this forever.
The whole great comparison, I never heard that.
That was insane.
I can't even take credit for that.
That's all big Jim.
And I've been around.
for a long time. I've seen both of them, and it's like a pretty accurate description.
She is a gym rat. Like she's first one there, last one there, fucking gets back on the road,
runs, comes back at night, lifts weight, and it's not like, oh, because she's got a big fat.
She's always like that, you know? And then Amanda's like this freak of nature where, I mean,
she doesn't have to go that many times the gym, but when she shows up, it's fucking game on.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if she trained every day or didn't.
anybody's going to get it, you know?
So it's going to be one for the legend.
Okay, so I'm actually...
And I'm one of these guys that agrees.
I never, don't get it wrong, ladies.
Almost always, they're going to get mad.
I always pick the men's fight over the women's fight.
Okay, okay.
This is the first time that I'm saying, how could you just...
So you agree with me?
Justin Gage and who's the other dude?
Patty Pimbley.
What the fuck?
We got Michael Jordan versus Kobe Bryant in the women's shit.
I better be Michael in this scenario.
I'm gonna decide on January 24th who you are.
Undisputed title fight, not only that, she's coming out of retirement.
The two greatest.
That, the history, the story, like, there's an actual story here.
I thought it was a no-brainer.
I couldn't believe it.
I thought it was a mistake when someone told me before.
No-brainer.
Legit.
He's a no-brainer.
Now, can I ask?
So, it's great that he's here because I'm asking about a man,
but he was there for all of this.
Yeah.
So.
I was asked her, I was part of her recruiting trip.
That's what you're talking about.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
But were you there the day they sparked?
Were you there,
the day they sparked. I was, but I didn't get to see it, though. Okay. I was there, because at the time,
I used to be there every day. I was definitely there, and I didn't heard all the rumors, but like
everybody knows, I ain't going to say shit. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. But what was the vibe?
I got on the Brazilians, I speak, you know, enough Portuguese that I know exactly what happened
from all the coaches there, and I know all the American coaches, so I knew everything. Could you
tell, though, that there was something there? He's, yeah, yeah. Could you tell there was something
there, though? Could you tell that this was inevitable? Of course, yeah. You know, especially
with chicks in the gym and she'll tell you
they're very territorial, maybe
more than dudes. They're very catty, too.
They don't like certain clicks, so
they're like, it's war every time. The few times
the guys will stop and watch
sparring is when it's like two girls that
got it out for each other because they're going
like it's a fight. And it's like a real
treat to see them because they're mean.
Not all the girls, but the ones that are actually
mean mean, are like the meanest people
in the world, you know? Okay.
Is she?
She's, yeah. Okay.
What? No, I'm not.
I'm a good training partner.
I'm talking about like in the gym.
When you're getting after it, like there's people that,
oh, you're a little tired.
I'll slow down.
And there's people that that's your fucking fault.
And they're going to punish you.
And they're going to punish everybody that goes in there.
He's like that.
I'm like that.
Amanda's like that.
You know, like we're here to work, you know.
You guys ain't having a good day.
That's your fault.
You're going to stop from dropping somebody on their head
because they're a little slow.
They have some beers on Tuesday.
That's their fault.
Yeah.
Do you train with men as well?
What?
Do you spar with men as well?
I just sparred one.
five rounds this morning. Pissed me off.
Really? Yeah. Why? Why? Why?
Well, why you think my hair's in braids? I came here from practice.
Oh, my God. Who is it? Who is it?
Some kid, his name's Chimel.
Okay. And why do he piss you off?
I mean, you want to know why he pissed me off? Because I took him down and he...
He didn't call you back. He left you on red.
Only you do that to me.
Oh. Only you.
Never, that's a rumor.
Not because I took him down and I couldn't keep him down and I pissed me off.
Okay, okay, okay. Nothing dirty.
No. Dude, I want to win every...
Every round, every exchange, every situation, and when I don't, I'm pissed off.
So, Jorge, how do you feel about this?
You're still kind of friends with Amanda, right?
Of course.
I'm the biggest Amanda fan.
Yeah, how do you feel about this?
Oh, you are?
Yeah.
That's weird.
I love...
I'm sorry, what?
I saw Amanda.
She came over with two losses in a row, came to American Top Team, and put what is called
the greatest women's career.
And I was right there, her teammate, the whole side.
So I saw that have a evolution.
I saw her since she got into the first day.
amateur fight, PFL, you'll see.
I've seen both.
I love both. I just love her more.
Okay, okay. Just checking. Just love her more.
But Amanda is the best of the best as well.
There's no fucking around.
Amanda's fucking real heat at any moment.
If she was a walk right in through those doors without having no training, she's still a problem.
So this is like, for me, the greatest women fight in history, you know?
Thanks, honey. Thank you.
Are you surprised she's coming back?
I'm not saying it because she's in shape and she can beat me up.
Are you surprised she's coming back to fight Kayla?
No, I always knew that because Amanda, as she knows, fighter.
She wants to climb Mount Everest, you know, she's, and rightfully so,
before Kayla, who was going to make her come back?
There's nobody.
Then came the chainsaw, buzz so through everybody.
She's like, okay, it makes sense.
They're saying she's the greatest now.
Let me prove everybody wrong, bah, and now we're going to see.
Who you bet now, bro?
You got a pick.
You made me pick, you got a pick.
I swear to, I didn't ask you.
I was just about to ask you.
Did he not ask me to pick?
No, I didn't.
I didn't.
her right here.
Your cameraman's not in this head.
You got to answer now, brother.
Who do I think's going to win?
Yeah.
It's a very easy one to pick.
What?
It's Kayla.
It's Kayla.
I actually think for multiple reasons.
She's been active.
Amanda hasn't.
You fought her when arguably she was at her top.
You were not at your top.
So if she's trying to bank on whatever she saw in that sparring session, you're a completely
different fighter.
You're well, you're well-rounded.
You know, like, it's just, you've evolved so much.
Yeah.
You've looked fantastic.
Thank you.
You told me many, many years ago to make 135, I remember asking you, you said you'd
have to cut off a leg.
I did say that, yeah.
This is like when she first entered MMAs.
So the fact that you're making it, and I know it's not easy.
Yeah.
But, you know, you're making it multiple times.
This one will be the third time, right?
Fourth time.
Yep.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, Holly Home, Caitlin Vieira, Julianna Pena, and now this one.
So I just think she's too strong.
She's too fit.
She's too hungry.
She's too motivated.
in the zone. Amanda, you know,
like she said, Silk Pajamas. Amanda... This is so weird
to have them, like, talk about me, right? Yeah, well,
he asked me. What about your pick? What about your pick?
This is glazing. I already told you.
You want me to say it twice? I got my
money on her. Okay, all right. Thanks, Poppy.
But I do love Amanda.
She is fucking one of my favorite fighters.
And I never picked the grapplers over the strikers.
This is like once in,
I don't know, 20 years. That shows you
what a great person I am. But by the way, he really does
just love me for me. I know, but I'm fucking hardhead and I'm always
going
Yeah, right, right, right, right.
I'm always running the striker to win
because I like that style more, you know?
So when somebody can, like, grapple defensively
and strike really well,
it's usually, like, more of my favorite fighters, you know?
Now, what do you make of Kayla saying
that you're sort of, like, honorary co-captain
when you want to show up?
What is this?
Are you not showing up to the gym these days?
He's like the godfather of...
What's happening?
I've been traveling, making little money,
so I haven't been in the gym that much,
but I was there before that for, like,
three weeks straight, hitting it hard.
Three days straight.
No, no, I was there, like, three, four weeks.
You were traveling, you were doing your tour stuff, but I was in there.
You were in there?
Okay, what are you in there for?
Just stay in the shape just in case.
I want that White House call, but maybe she could call them.
Yeah, are you making it?
Like, what's going on with you?
You're like to say yes to me, yes.
Are you making a comeback?
Like, what's happening?
Yeah, what's happened?
The White House, and only the White House, I'll come back for that.
And I told them that.
That's it.
That's it.
They didn't give me the yes.
They didn't give me the no.
They're playing that courting shit, you know, that fucking flirt with you.
All you got to do is call the man himself.
And I know me, Dana White.
Call up 47.
You know Mr. 47 called me like five days ago.
To do what?
To say what?
I got the call on video, brother.
Don't worry about it.
What happens then?
So, like, he just calls you and it's just like,
does it say his name?
Ask that dreadhead right there.
What did they say about me, huh?
What happened?
What happened?
He told me the other day, FaceTime for like five minutes.
To speak you about what?
Just bullshit.
Just the chat with Donald Trump.
Somewhat confidential.
Okay.
But we just bullshit in for the most part.
Did you ask him, hey, put me on the card?
I made a minute.
I put the pressure on them.
But at the same time, I don't want to put too much.
I already told him.
If it gets done, it gets done.
If not, that's not the one favorite I'm going to call in.
You know, it's going to be a lot bigger than that.
Okay, okay.
What's that one?
What's that one?
I can't tell you.
All right, all right, all right.
Do you know what it is?
Does Donald Trump call you too?
I mean, I did have dinner with him at the White House.
Wow, look at you guys.
That up me, that up me, that up me.
Just you guys?
It was me, Trump, Dana, and my coach Big Jim.
Oh, yes.
I saw the photo.
Yeah.
What was the reason for this dinner?
Trump invited me.
just to just to chill just to have them
how blondes get the you know
wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow
I know them for years
talked to them all the time I never even
you never got invited for dinner
I didn't get a hell no
and what is that like like what is the menu like
I mean you have two gold medals
and like you know like it's not just
you have a BMF title
I have a great personality
what do you guys talk about
him
okay
just all
all of his accolades
this is great football career. I mean, that's the good thing about, yeah, you know, it was like
a private press conference, kind of. Wow, you just peppered him with questions. No, I didn't
really say much. He was just talking the whole time. Yeah. Wow. It was great. Did you enjoy it?
I did, yeah. What is the wife? I mean, that's an honor. Yeah. Politics aside.
Sure, sure, sure. I mean, to have dinner with the president of the United States of America is
ridiculous. It's a big deal. Yeah. First time at the White House? I was more nervous about my
boss being there, really, actually.
Dana?
Yeah, he's kind of, yeah.
He's kind of what?
I just can't get her.
Oh, here we go.
What do you mean?
Say it.
Say, you can't back out now.
No, I just can't get a read on him.
And I don't like that.
Fair.
Wow, okay, this is getting good now.
What does that mean? What does that mean?
You can't.
I mean, I'm usually good at, like...
Reading people.
Yeah, yeah, and like a...
You're not sure if he likes you or not?
Yeah, I think he doesn't like me.
Really?
I do get that sense.
It's probably your fault.
Yeah, because...
you're on the show a lot.
So your promoter doesn't like you, your manager doesn't like you because
you come on?
My manager loves me because I make him a lot of money.
Oh, okay.
I just make because you come on.
I'm sure he doesn't love that.
No, he, I mean, that's...
Do you think Dana doesn't like her?
Dana, like she said, it's hard to get a read on.
Yeah, you have a better relationship.
Like, what do you...
On a personal level, I like Dana a lot.
Obviously, what he's done for and all that.
But we are doing business with each other.
And in there, I'm not his fan at all, you know, because
There's certain things I want
and there's certain things that they want
And it's always I'm going to tell you a fight
It's a war but it's my
I'm his employer, I'm the boss
And like all of us I'm always going to want more
Fuck that, you know
I'm getting in there getting killed
They're killing somebody so
Dude at one point
At one point
Trump was like talking about
He was like oh that's great
I remember when you sold the company for $4 billion
or something and he was like
Oh you know that was great
You know they're talking about both their billions of dollars
And I'm just like
And then Trump asked Danny, he was like, what do you think it's worth now?
And he said probably around 20, it's estimated at around $23 billion.
And I was like, that's really good to know going into negotiations.
And Trump thought that was hilarious.
And that was like.
You said that?
I said that.
Yeah, right away.
I was like, I'm so glad you said that.
Listen, you guys deserve a lot more money.
I mean, look at this fight that's happening tomorrow night.
AJ and Jake Paul.
Those guys are getting tens of projecting numbers.
Yeah, what, yeah.
In terms of what they're?
paid, tell me. Tens of millions.
Yeah. No, don't give me his bullshit, ask. Give me, like...
I heard, you're working with them for a while
or not. Tell me. Yeah. Yeah. No bullshit. I work for Netflix.
I heard in the
40 to 50 range. Each?
Yes.
Shut up! Yes.
Why do you think Jake Paul is fighting this guy?
That's crazy. Isn't that crazy?
He's going to win? I just mean it's a
massive risk, right? It's a massive risk.
So when you hear that, given all the years you guys have put
in, probably... No, that's rough.
Right?
You know, hats off to him, cheers.
Bro, I mean, even more him, dude.
This guy was fighting in freaking backyards.
Like, this is like the OG of the OGs.
This is like a real, he deserves.
Literal backyards.
Like, literal backyards.
He deserves, like, all of his cake and to eat it too.
He deserves a lot of money.
They should.
I think that would be great.
You coming back?
He's also an entertainer, so.
But the thing that I understand is you, you were tired in my,
Miami, I remember, and then you said
you're coming back.
When I found out about that White House.
But it was before the White House.
No, no, no, no, you heard rumors, bro.
I said it for the White House.
It was just the White House?
Well, you fought Nate in the boxing match.
Yeah, but that's different
because they offered me a big-ass bag, so
I can't say, no, I got children
and they got needs.
I was like, fuck it.
I told my kids first.
I'm like, y'all cool with me going to boxing.
We're going to make a nice chunk of change,
you know, put it away for us.
They were like, go, Dad.
Okay.
So I did the boxing, and then I was like, I'm done.
I'm good.
And then the White House opportunity came up, and shit.
It's just like, that's never going to happen again is how I see it.
Right.
I don't ever see that happening again, so why not try to be a part of that?
Because I fought in some cool places.
Nobody knows, but I fought at the Playboy Mansion.
I remember that.
I remember.
I swear you.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a perfect spot for you to fight.
Strike force used to do a few events there.
I knocked somebody out like in a minute and a half.
Matt Lee, not somebody, Mad Lee, great fighter.
I got lucky and pop, you know, took them out quick.
The Playboy models wanted pictures.
I was like, okay, so if they say there's no space, you're officially done.
That's it.
No, not officially done because I got some other offers on the table, some different things.
So I'm not mad at those offers either.
Like what?
Like what?
Break some news.
There's only a couple people here, people watching at home.
Come on.
Come on.
She said her boss, she can't get around.
read on him. We're all letting our hair down
here. She's still got her hair
up actually. Yeah. Right and stuff,
man. What do you got? What do you got? We can figure
it out. There's some options. Okay.
In the pugilistic world.
Okay. Is that boxing?
You can Google that. Yeah, yeah.
That was a $10 word. What did he say?
Pugilistic. Oh, okay.
You know, and there's offers there
and I'm not going to say no to somebody's
there's also big offers in the grappling world.
For me, big money to grab. Do you need a coach?
I do, actually.
She's a phenomenal coach.
She's actually.
I could see that.
He's a phenomenal coach, actually.
Foot sweeps.
A lot of stuff I was able to pick off her.
But yeah, in both worlds, the grappling world, some good money there, which I was just chilling at home, mind in my business.
I'm not going to lie to you.
It's way better for your brain.
I don't mind.
It's like jujitsu competitions, right?
Wrestling jihitsu competitions, wrestling and jujitsu.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Yes, I know what you're talking about.
Is it?
Everybody's offering me deals.
I'm just going to sit back, get home.
And what's the boxing?
What's the boxing?
You're so pushy.
Leave him alone.
Well, I'm just curious.
You said it was boxing.
I said pugilistic.
We got Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva's fighting tomorrow night.
Say it again?
Tyrone Woodley and Anderson Silva.
Yeah, yeah.
So there's...
I might have known somebody who got that call before Woodley.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Can I ask you a question?
I'll answer it.
Maybe.
Who helped initiate that call?
I can't say his name.
It was your boy, Ariel Hawati.
That's who helped initiate it.
I hit him up, right?
I thought you were going to get it.
I was, but, you know, like I said, I got deals on the table, man, so, you know.
They didn't come correct?
They came good, but they didn't come, you know, like, correct.
I was excited about it.
Me too.
Do you know what we're talking about here, or did we lose you?
I think I followed Tyrone Woodley and Anderson Silver are fighting, but he got the call first to fight.
Because Chris Wydeen got hurt.
Oh.
To fight Anderson.
And they want me to fight in Miami
Short notice
They want
But listen to this
They want your boy to fight in Miami
Short notice
But they don't want to pay
I don't want to play
Oh
Yeah
They didn't have a lot of money
They don't want to Jake
It wasn't the right check
It wasn't right
And then
UFC don't like MVP
So if I tell UFC
I want to do this
It might be like
Yeah but you can't come back
And they love me
Maybe that's better
Maybe that's better
I don't know if it's better
Because I've been with the UFC my whole life
so how could I ever turn my back on them?
They've been feeding me forever,
and then you're going to offer me something that's not correct,
and I'm going to say about the U.S.
That's your whole life.
You fought in Bellator.
You fought a strike force.
But not my whole life, but the last 11 years.
Sure, sure, sure.
And they've done right by you,
and you want to keep the White House card.
I can never talk about it about the U.S.
Obviously, I want more money, always,
but I can never talk about them.
They've been feeding me for ages.
But that would have been exciting, right?
Jorge against Anderson in Miami.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If they would have just done a little bit of this year,
a little bit of that there,
I thought the UFC said
you can't do it and that's why it didn't come to
fruition. I think I could have, if the back
because if the back would have been right and I go to
UFC, look man, I'm going to just get this
but you guys mind, they would have let me.
You know, it wouldn't have been a big deal
but I don't know if they're going to let me come back
to the UFC. Okay, all right.
Well, we'll see what happens there. By the way, Kayla
you've been at the gym. He has not
as you said.
He's been making, he's wheeling and dealing.
I've been making around. Before that
though, I was making around.
And so he says, September, October, no, July, end of July, September and October, I was in there.
I was in there, girl.
I wanted to ask, have you seen Alejandre Pantoja?
Any sign of him?
Yeah, he's back in the gym.
He's back in the gym.
He's back in the gym.
Can we give it up for Alex Pantosia?
He's a beast.
So what is he?
He's walking around.
He's working out with one arm.
He's literally working out with one arm right now.
Unbelievable.
And that's a hybrid of a thoroughbred and a work portion.
Yeah, dude.
I don't even know what he is.
Because he's just in the everyday super athlete, like, he's a fucking dog.
Dude, every, so Mako Mondays are the hardest practice of the week.
It's like an hour and a half of Mako putting you through your paces, wrestling.
It's like, you'll be drilling hard at, like, a fast pace for 45 minutes, and he'll walk by and be like, are you warm yet?
You're hot?
You're feeling?
And I'm like, bro, Mako, I'm in hell.
Like, what do you mean?
Yeah.
Anyways, we go live.
And, dude, every Mako Monday, Pantoja, like, last round will, like,
look me in the eye and I just like
wither inside and I'm like okay
yeah let's go dude I swear to God he
I either cry or I throw up
one of the two facts like literally
no I'm not joking because you're around the same
size right I mean no I'm bigger
than him but he just
twice a size he just
twice a size oh my god
your legs are like his the whole
size of his body it's crazy
women in the same weight class always considerably
brother right right right look at Amanda
shut up now
before you get in trouble.
Anyways, the point of the story was he just has that, like,
he has this pace, this relentless, like, he has this relentless thing about him.
And, like, dude, he'll break you.
So what's he doing at the gym?
He's training.
With one arm.
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
He's unbreakable.
He's unbreakable.
He broke his arm and didn't even make a face.
It was unbelievable.
No, did you see him?
Yeah.
It was crazy.
When you see something like that, does it give you pause?
Like, golly, this sport.
Like, I don't want that.
to happen to me. The thing I don't
understand about you guys is like Anderson Silva, right?
Anderson Silva, he kicks, he breaks
his leg. If that happened to a regular human
being, you'd be like, I'm not going to do that thing
again. Ever again. That caused that.
You guys are cut from a different cloth where you're like,
oh yeah, I'll be back. Like, Rob Whitaker
and Khamsat Shamaev, his whole jaw
gets like indented. Most human
beings say, I'm done with that thing.
You guys are just like, yeah, I'll be back in six months.
You're just wired differently. You gotta love it.
You got to love it. You absolutely have to
love it. If you don't love this sport, you're doing
Like, if you don't love the, it's not even a sport.
Like, you don't play fighting, you know?
Like, if you don't love it, get out.
Unbelievable.
You know who's unbelievable?
Kimbo Slice.
Mr. 305, rest in peace.
Can you give us a good Kimbo story for the people?
What's a good Kimbo?
Was there before Kayla was there.
What's a, what's a Kimbo story?
What's a good Kimbo story?
I'm putting you on the spot.
Yeah, come on.
Tell a story.
Who was Kimbo Slice?
Well, super humble dude.
Like, if he came in here and he,
like sit down, he'd just be chilling, and he's one of the scariest presence, right?
His aura.
His aura.
But he's not trying to be.
And, like, people, I remember what happened, because back then nobody knew me, but everybody
knew Kimbo.
So we went out to, like, eat or something, and people be looking over at him, nervously,
like that.
And then finally, one brave soul with, like, excuse me, can I, if it's totally cool, of course,
because I know you're busy, could I have a picture?
I'll be like, yeah, come on, Bob.
You do one picture, and then like 100 people line up,
you'll do 100 pictures.
And bullshit with everybody, just chill, like a Miami boy,
just chilling, man, no problem.
I'm super humble.
But then when it was game time, rowdy.
And he'd get rowdy in the streets, too.
Like, if somebody crossed the line with,
when you're with him and somebody got, like, a little bit,
he'd be the first.
It doesn't have to be with him.
We're together hanging out.
Somebody said something like Kayla.
Fucking.
There's guerrillas on you, but it really.
Shreds, brother. It was good. We had good times and they helped out my career so much. I see Mike, Kimball's Life.
Yes. The movie is coming out. So y'all better check that out. Hey, this is Hollywood blockbuster shit where you got to wait like three days for it.
What is this? What is this? A movie on Kimbo? Well, I don't know.
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
But I really wish there was a movie on Kimball.
That's, what movie? What movie are you talking about?
I'm not talking about a movie. I'm just saying I heard through the Graveind. Okay. Rumors.
There's a Kimbo movie coming out.
Wow.
Like a documentary or someone's playing Kimbo?
I don't know any of that.
Okay, wow, wow.
Well, that would be cool?
That's so exciting.
Are you in it?
No, but I'm just projecting.
Yeah, yeah.
You hope.
Projecting.
You hope.
It puts this movie together, you know.
Okay, Nostradamus.
Who would you want to play you in the movie?
Oh my gosh, that's a great question.
Who looks like me?
I don't know.
Russell Crow?
He looks like Jesus a little bit.
He's like a little too old.
Yeah, no.
We need someone who's like a,
we need a Latin guy, but we need a Latin person.
Who's that?
Tilema.
Shalame.
Who is that?
He's like a little, he's like a white boy from New York.
He looks nothing like you.
Timothy Shalame.
I don't know who that is.
Yeah, you said Latin though, so now I'm thrown.
I was thinking like Bradley Cooper.
It can't be like how they did Scarface, which he did a great job by Pacino,
but we could have got a Cuban.
Yeah, that's true.
Bad Bunny, Mad Bunny grows a beard.
He's a good actor
No
Well you don't like Bad Bunny
I love his music and stuff
But he ain't playing me
Oh be it
I don't know
You don't know who bad bunny is
You don't know who Bad Bunny is
He's like
He's like the
She doesn't know who Bad Bunny is
You like him more than
Anthony Joshua
I do like Anthony Joshua
You called Anthony Joshua a tall drink of milk
Wait wait
Bad Bunny is the most streamed artist in the world
Puerto Rican
Dide be dee de de de de de de de de de de de de de i don't know it's not from the secular world what does that
I mean she don't listen to that oh okay my best no I listen to regular music
wow I just I don't yeah sometimes bad bunny I've carpooled with her it's no bad music ever
that's not true you listen to like flea wood mac okay okay okay Jesus like Christian music
stuff like I do listen to a lot of Christian music yeah wow I didn't know people like
I listen to a lot of country music too I know it's not that popular down here in Miami but
Okay, okay, okay.
It's growing.
Yeah.
Country music.
So, they got like bars and shit now down here.
Down here?
Yes, they do the line dancing.
Does anyone want to ask Corhay and or Kayla a question?
I didn't really plan for this, but I feel like you guys are such good fans.
I'm going to go into the crowd.
The team is going to get mad at me.
My team is going to get mad at me.
She's so mad at me right now, Andy.
But I just want to get involved with the people.
Was it you?
Who raised your hand?
Okay, what do we got?
Tell us, what's your name?
Where are you from?
And who do you want to ask a question to?
Jay Costa from Doral.
Oh, Day County.
Who's your question?
Miami.
So, George, us three were here in your first game bread
MMA fight in Miami and sunrise.
Let's go.
When's the next one?
When's the next game bread fight?
Before I forget, March 13, Dominican Republic,
we got like 12 bouts on the card.
Bare knuckle, MMA, we're coming back March 13th,
Dominican Republic.
Okay, he wants you to bring it back to Miami.
When is it coming back?
Back to Miami.
We're coming to Miami either May or December.
All right.
There you go.
There you go.
You got the scoop.
My man over here.
Where are you from and what's your name?
My name is Emilio and I'm from Haya Lilla.
Yeah.
East or West?
I got a question.
East or West?
No, I'm from the West.
Okay, let's go, bro.
Uh-huh.
So my question for both of you guys is...
Guy, girl.
Huh?
Guy girl.
You can't call her guys because she'll get you, bro.
She will. She will get mad.
I learned that lesson. I learned that lesson.
One of your favorite fights of all time.
Oh.
Of their own?
For me, the fight that comes to mine right away, not that it's like always men versus women or anything like that, but Yawanna versus Wei, that absolute war.
He wants to know your own.
Oh, my own.
Yeah.
If someone wants to see the best of Kayla Harrison, which fight are they popping on?
bro I don't know
the last one when you became champion
against juliana Pena
Jorge what about you
Jorge it's got to be New York right
Madison Square Garden
that's a good one
super necessary is another good one oh my gosh
yes yes if you're talking about knockouts
we got a lot
I love them all
and what about Ben Ascran
what can we say about Ben Ascran
God bless him what a warrior this dude man
yeah yeah yeah I want to see
there's days that I you know
for whatever reason, whether it be on the personal side,
and this literally happened to me,
and that's why I got nothing but love and respect for this.
There's days that, you know, we're off our rocker.
We're not there, or we think we're not,
we're making bullshit excuses, and this went bad,
and I'm my daughter this and that,
and I'm, like, sitting there feeling like shit,
and I turn on my phone because I'm a fucking idiot,
and I'm just on my phone instead of solving problems at this moment.
The first fucking thing I see is Ben Ascran,
fucking wrestling.
It's unbelievable.
This guy's unbelievable.
He lost his lungs and he's wrestling and he's getting after and then he's on the
aerodynamic bike and then he's doing the bursa climber and immediately I was like
what the fuck I am such a pussy.
Wow, let's get to it.
So I heard through the grapevine.
They're doing some stuff with Ben.
There's a documentary and I think there's a desire to have you two together to have you
to reunite.
So I would like to make that happen.
I would love to make that happen.
A hundred percent.
Look at you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, a couple more questions.
A couple of more.
I like this.
I like this, getting in with the people.
Okay, I'm going to go to you first.
One more, one more here.
To my dolphin fan.
Nice to meet you, Mr. Hoani.
This is questions for Jorge.
We've already talked about the asker knockout.
I want to know how it felt to smoke Darren Till in front of his home country, bro.
Well, that felt amazing because I had had some injuries and a layover, so I had him fight in a minute.
And then when I came back, I was kind of out of the top 10 ranking.
I was like 11, and he was number three.
So definitely the chips are stacked against me.
And when I got there, all you could hear is like, they were trying to kill me out of that stadium, you know.
And I don't know.
It's no offense to fighting hometown, which I like fighting Miami.
But for some reason, I'm like the soldier you send away because when I'm there and everybody's booing, that shit makes me like more like, ah, you know?
So when I took everybody was going crazy.
And this is one that she knows because she's finding a lot of people's hometown.
You feel that crazy energy, right, that they're going from.
When you take somebody out of contention like that out of nowhere, the whole place turns so silent, you can hear a pin drop and I live for that shit.
So that was a good moment.
I love it.
I remember that.
All right, my man.
My man.
What do you got?
I got a question for Kayla, a big fan.
I know you have Amanda Nunez coming up next.
And I know you mentioned Valentina.
But there's a woman who calls herself the greatest female fighter of all time that I heard is training right now in MMA.
would you be willing to call out Ronda Rousey
if you got this win?
Oh my gosh.
I'm not going to call her out
because I feel like it's almost like
it might be a crime, the things that I would...
Like, I might go to jail, you know?
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
What's up, my man?
This guy's rocking the Razor Ramon shirt.
Hey, Razor Ramon would have played you back in the day.
Scott Hall.
You're the fucking man, I got to say that.
Thank you.
Jorge Mazvedov.
My brother.
When are you coming back?
If it's not boxing,
If it's not UFC, when are you coming back?
I want to see you versus my Perry.
I promise you.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I promise you this, my brother.
2026, I got some really good options in the table,
and your boys are 100% coming back.
Yeah, look at you getting the scoop.
Look at you getting the scoop.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, my guy, my guy.
From Fort Lauda.
I got a quick question from Jorge.
Are you allowed to eat at Poppy Steakhouse still?
You know that they fucking love me over there?
After that incident, supposedly happened that I supposedly hit somebody at this and that.
They booked like 900 reservations like in three, four days.
So whenever the owners see me, it's the craziest shit.
Got on my restaurant, everything is free.
So I'm taking somebody out of Poppy Steakhouse.
Yeah, I got my pay for it.
Hey, this one's for Kayla, a huge fan.
I'm from Dayton, Ohio, in town for the fight tonight, just outside of Middletown, where you grew up.
Let's go.
I got to know, how did you find your passion coming out of Middletown?
I wouldn't think such a badass like yourself would come.
out of Middletown. How did you find your passion? Well, yeah, I mean, Middletown has had its ups and downs.
It's a little bit rough around the edges, but I think, like me, it has a heart of gold on the
inside. And yeah, I truly believe that everything in my life happened for a reason. I've been
blessed by God to have not only all of these great things happen to me, but also I have to thank God
for all the shitty stuff that happened to me.
Because if it weren't for that, I wouldn't have gotten out of Middletown.
I wouldn't be who I am today.
I wouldn't be sitting here with all of you.
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Just a couple more.
Great answer. A couple more.
Hey, Kayla.
Oh, I'm Isaac from Fort Lauderdale.
Hi.
Hey, Kayla, listen, I'm getting 189 vibe for some reason.
You know, because this is the main event is Patty.
That's going to be his coming out party, I just say.
Okay.
So the co-main event was Robbie Lawler and Roy McDonald's.
I feel like, honestly, I'm a fan of Amanda Nunez, honestly.
Yeah.
So I feel like y'all, y'all, too, are going to go to war.
Yeah.
If y'all go to war and it's a close fight, would you want to rematch win or lose?
I'm going to win, so take that shit back.
Good answer.
But absolutely.
Yeah, that was a true question.
If Amanda wants that smoke again, I'll give it to her again.
My guy here.
My guy here.
Woo!
John from Seattle, Washington.
Kayla, I'm a huge fan
and I agree with Ariel Halwani
when he says you should be the main event
versus Nunez.
I want to know how do you plan to finish her
and what round do you plan to finish her in?
Listen, I'm going to go out there
I'm going to instill my will
one rounds at a time, one minute in a time,
when exchange her time, one breath at a time.
I'm going to take her ass down.
I'm going to put an elbow through her face
and if that doesn't finish it,
then I'm going to submit her.
I don't know what round,
but that's what's going to happen.
Okay, one more, one more.
Your name and where are you from?
Andrew, right here in Miami, Florida.
We were talking about journalism.
Kayla, quick question for you.
What is Barbara Walters, Chris Berman, and Walter Cronkite have in common?
Oh my gosh, what?
They're all second best to the greatest journalist of all time, Ariel Hawati.
And, end, end, end, end, and, when you're the best journalist in the world,
They don't call you the goat.
They have a name for you.
They call you Ariel Hawati.
My God.
My God.
Much love.
You better pay that man, brother.
Hey, before I let you guys go, before I let you guys go,
there was once a time on my show
where we were talking about you fighting Leon Edwards.
And there were a couple of members of the show
who were saying maybe they weren't so interested in it.
Do you remember this?
I can't deny it
confirmed
Okay there was a clip that was posted
and then all of a sudden
Jorge sends me a message
being like
who are these two
not so nice words right?
Oh my earboys
yeah
the guys on my show
I want to bring out
New York Rick at G.C.
to make a man to make peace
with Jorge and Bosbedo
because you said
Let me say something
so the crowd knows
what you're sending them up for
they said
I was trying to get on this Miami
card against Leon
and I told everyone you all
push the narrative right
because we boys you know
You come to Miami, you need me, okay, but look, I need a little favor.
And his boys shut me down.
They said I was irrelevant, but yet your boss wants me to be on the show.
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh, hell yeah, hell yeah.
And now you want to come on here and be relevant.
So I was a little, you know, not but I was like, damn, you kind of fucking up my money.
Do you want to say something to them?
You're a Christian.
You got to forgive, right?
No, I forgive.
We don't have to forget, but that, but that was arrived, so you know, so you don't
make me look like a bad guy just in case I punched one.
No, no, no, no, I don't want that.
Can I tell you something?
Can I tell you something for him?
Don't be touching me like that.
Bring them out. Bring them out. Bring them out. Where are they? I don't know where they are. Where are they?
They're scared. They're scared. You guys put thumbs up. They live. Thumbs down. They die. They're scared. I don't know where they are. Eric. G.C. Where are you guys? I think they're actually scared to come out. Oh, my God. I'd be scared too. There they are. How many thumbs down we got her up?
No, no, no, no, no, no. They come in peace. They come in peace. Come on.
We got with her. We got more thumbs down there.
There they are. There they are. Look how scared they are. Look how scared. No, they come in peace.
Oh, wait. And she puts thumb down. It's game over. He loves you. He loves you. He loves you. I want peace.
You know what's amazing about this? Come here. Come here. Rick. Come here. Rick. You know what's amazing about this?
I had to, Rick is the best. Rick is the best. I had to actually coordinate with you guys, right, to get you here and to do the parking. And I told, I told Jorge,
Rick is not the guy, but he's actually the guy, but look how nice.
Look how nice he is.
Look how nice he is.
A leg kick each.
No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing that.
But look how nice.
Is it he great?
Isn't he great?
No, these guys are great.
These guys are great.
You know, but Aria, Aria, you know, but Aria knows I don't give a fuck if it's media or fighters.
I never let nobody push on me.
I'm going to push right back, you know?
But you know what?
Now is the time to see Jorge versus Leon, right?
We agree.
We agree.
That was the time.
Guys, thank you so much.
Guys, please.
Show some love to the great Kayla Harrison, everyone, the one and only, the champion who will successfully defend her title in a month's time and show some love.
God bless everybody.
To the man Jorge Mosvedal who came all the way down here to bless us with his presence.
Happy holidays.
Feliz Navidad.
Thank you, my brother.
Yes, yes, my guy.
The pride of the 305, the one and only.
Jesus is the reason for the ceasing.
Yes.
He has risen.
He has risen.
How about this?
Yes, he has, yes.
By the way, Jesus was Jewish.
Yeah.
And then, you know?
No, no, we don't have to talk about that.
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
That was amazing, right?
That was amazing.
We're going to talk for a few more minutes and then get to the meet and greet.
I want to bring out Rick and G.C. again.
Where do they run to these guys?
Why are they so shy?
I don't know what's going on.
Who is to check?
Are you guys having fun?
Oh, they're taking them to the car.
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Here's Connor coming back.
There he is.
Rocking the Inter-Miamy.
Always got to rock the local teams.
Thank you so much.
Guys, make some noise for Team Harrison walking out.
Kayla Harrison's family.
Thank you so much to them as well.
Hey, Rick, Rick.
He's got to walk him to the car.
Make sure they don't pay, uh?
Make sure it's on us.
Yeah, it's on on Crown.
What is that, man?
That was fun.
I was trying to, like, you bring us out here, no microphone or anything.
I'm standing awkward in the corner.
Yeah, it was fun.
You made me look like a fucking jump out here.
It was fun.
You brought out the thing.
I wanted you guys to make peace.
Yeah, we had already made peace in the bag, man.
You heard him, he was like, no, we don't need to bring them out.
We don't need to bring them out.
It's all good.
No, it's good.
Forced it out.
You were like, come on, come on.
He had no...
Because when we booked him on the show,
he was like, are your boys going to be there?
Yeah, I think what do you say in the voicemeling?
He's just like, make sure you bring those fucking dorks with you.
Yes.
So I wanted to make some peace.
We need more peace.
Peace and love, man.
Peace and love, peace and love, peace and love.
All right?
So we are here.
This has been fun, right?
It's been amazing.
Caleb cutting the promos on Amanda.
Unreal.
Unbelievable.
She is incredible.
You've had a love-hate relationship with Miami,
but I feel like we're winning you over now with this trip.
It's been pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been great.
I mean, we know the Gorgonzola's steak story.
Sure, sure.
You know, shout out to my boy, Jake in the back.
He was there for that one.
He is there.
There he is.
What's up, Jake?
I was stupid in his grandmother's toilet, shout out.
Yeah.
And then I was supposed to come back in July.
Flight got canceled, wasn't able to come.
And then I landed here, and the airline lost my bag.
So I thought I was just going to have to leave because it's just a cursed city for me.
But we've made amends.
Me and the 305, I'm live in the 305.
We're live in the 305.
And my guy Tito back there begging for a shout out.
There is.
Hello, Tito.
How are you?
All right, you are our gambling expert.
We are here, of course, for AJ, Jake Paul.
I heard people were saying that Jake has gone all the way down to a plus 800.
Is that true?
I've seen even lower.
I'm seeing like a plus 600.
I'm seeing like minus 850 for AJ.
Wow.
So what are you doing?
What's the official pick?
What's the official D.C. pick?
I got AJ rounds one through four minus 170.
But like I feel like you got to unload the clip on just AJ Money Line.
I saw Ryan Garcia put 50,000 down on A.J. Moneyline.
Because it's so close, right? Yeah, minus $500 on it.
That's crazy. Is anyone actually picking Jake Paul to win this fight?
Wow.
I don't know what they're thinking. I don't know what they see.
Did they see the face-offs? Have they seen A.J. fight? Did they watch the Francis fight?
I mean, yeah, he did say.
What about the Tommy Fury fight?
Yeah, but that was a while ago. Here's the thing, though, if it's that, like, if the odds are that, you might as well take a flyer, no?
On Jake Paul?
Yeah.
No.
No?
It's wasted money.
Jake?
Jake?
Remember that one?
That was Dana White.
That was Dana White saying that Jake didn't have the cahoni.
How about Frank with the drops?
Frank with the drops is incredible.
That was Dana White saying that Jake didn't have the cahones to fight anyone who was in his prime, who was young.
And now look at him.
Oh, he's got the cahones.
I respect him for taking this.
I think he's a madman, but I don't think he's going to win.
I mean, it's really unbelievable.
Like actually seeing them do the face-to-face earlier, it's like one of these things is not like the other.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But Jake is so calm.
He's kind of messing with him.
He's doing like the joke on faceoff.
He's confident.
Yes.
He's supposed to be in the AI of them making out after the face off and everything like that.
Yeah, that was weird.
That was weird.
He seems like he thinks he's going to do it, but I don't know.
I disagree.
I think otherwise.
What do you think?
Have we gotten any official prediction yet?
Well, as you guys know,
I'm forced you to make a man to Kayla.
I'm working the broadcast.
Netflix, 8 p.m.
Tomorrow night.
Prelim's at 445.
So I can't make an official prediction, unfortunately.
But I think it's going to,
to be fun. I think the rest of the card is really good. I think the Netflix people do a great job
of making the events feel big. I really don't know what to expect. I mean, obviously, A.J. should
win this fight. The question is, does he play with his food, or does he go out there? I think Jake
has actually annoyed him a little bit this week. Like, today, putting his fist in it. Like,
I think he's like, yeah, I'm going to get rid of you. And I thought it was interesting at the
Wayans. He called him a kid. He said, I'm a real fighter. You're starting to see a little bit
of that, you know, that guard come down of him being like, yeah, man, I'm going to get rid of you.
And I can't tell you guys right now, I can't tell you too much, but this is a live, hard rock
exclusive.
Oh, you got the script.
I know of a fight that is all, I know, so they talked about Tyson Fury versus A.J.
There's a fight on the table.
No, not the script, not the script.
It took you a second.
Yeah, it took me a second.
There's a fight on the table for A.J. to fight on February 14th.
but he has to get by Jake first, and it's a very out-of-left-field fight.
I don't want to be that guy to do the whole thing of, like,
I know something you don't, but I was sworn to see Chris.
There's a left-field fight that if Jake wins, I wouldn't be surprised,
if AJ wins, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets on the mic tomorrow night
and calls this guy out.
Remember this when I ask him, if he wins, who's next tomorrow,
and you'll be like, ah.
Any guesses, by the way?
You're not, you're saying Usick and Tyson.
You're not in the right.
I'm talking, I'm talking.
James Tehuna.
John Jones is a good one, but no, that is a crazy one.
Professional boxing?
Listen, you know the answer to this, so you're trying to lead me, I've told you this already.
I'm racking my brain, I can't remember it.
John Cena would be, how bad was that?
Oh my God, that was one of the worst retirement matches, one of the worst retirement angles of all time.
I talk about time-honored tradition in the business.
The undisputed title has to go last in pro wrestling to do this in the year 2025 and say,
yeah, Gunther has to tap out.
John Seen, are you kidding me?
The guy who is the epitome of the never give up movement, he taps out.
Not only does he tap out, he smiles and taps, like he doesn't even fight.
He doesn't even fight the – this is a whole other story for another day.
I'm going to get all worked up about this.
I see someone's sitting over there shaking their head.
They agree with you.
Someone agrees or disagrees?
You agree.
You agree.
Any questions?
Any more questions for me even?
we wrap this up anyone want to ask any more questions
or should we do the meet and greet
when am I coming to Toronto
I love Toronto I'm still
heartbroken over the Blue Jays
that was tough seven games
why boo with the Marlins
you guys are Marlins fans
Marlins fans don't exist
this guy's got a Marlins hat
what do the Marlins have to do with the Blue Jays
well they were booing so I was like oh
you know you don't like I don't know
shout out to Toronto shout out to the 6
I was just there
because I'll be covering the Olympic Games
for the CBC,
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.
So all these guys,
all these guys in the sport
who like to say I'm not a real journalist,
how do the Olympics sound to you?
Do you think I'm a real journalist?
Do you think I'm a real journalist
if I make it to the Olympics?
Come on now, this nonsense.
You're raising your hand.
Should I go, you want to go give this?
You want me to do it?
Yeah, why not?
I mean, it makes no sense for me to answer the guy.
Go out there.
Who is it?
Who is it?
It was that guy, right?
This man, all the way,
the guy with the t-shirt right over there.
Well, there's another guy coming to you, so just
make sure he doesn't...
I don't want him to double-leg you.
I was about to say, you are a real journalist.
Fuck Camaroosman.
Yeah, you said that part.
Thank you, my friend.
What's up, bro?
I appreciate that.
All right, all right, what do we got?
What do we got?
We got the Bangkok shrimp tonight.
Yeah, how about that?
So I saw you saw...
You had Shale earlier in the week,
and you talked about Ilya with his situation.
I'm not going to ask about his personal situation,
but at what point should champions be stripped
if they can't actually compete.
My opinion on this is if you don't fight for a year
and don't have a fight scheduled within that year
and you weren't injured, which delayed things,
then they should move on.
They should take you out of the rankings
and they should move on.
We're not at the year point yet.
We're nowhere near the year point.
The year point would be June of 2026.
So I don't think...
So if he can't defend, like, by the White House,
he should be stripped.
Yes.
So we've still got a lot of time.
And White House is June 14th.
He lost last fought, I think it was June 26th or June 27th.
Oh, look at this. We got more questions.
Oh, we got more questions. What do we got?
An unbelievable ice cream Sunday in a martini glass.
What are you willing to give up to get Janus to the Knicks?
Okay, that's a very good question.
And if you would have asked me this question about a week ago,
I would have pretty much said everyone.
But the vibes are incredibly high right now
after we became the reigning defending NBA Cup champions.
Why would you mess around?
Why would you mess around?
So I'm saying, Stan Pat, this is the squad that will finally bring,
the Larry O.B. back home
where it belongs. Madison Square
Garden. What do we got? One more question from the nosebleeds here.
Oh, yeah, I love it. Yeah, what's up, Ariel?
What's happening, my man? So I was looking at
the Australia card in February, and, you know,
I was seeing, like, Volk and Diego are rematching.
Like, what do you think of, like, Mavsar and
Lerone Murphy and, like, all these other contenders getting
passed over for this, this, like, rematch?
I love Diego. I have a lot of respect for him.
That fight against John Silva was amazing.
The title fight should have 100% been
Lorone Murphy. The winning street.
that he's on, he's won nine in a row, spinning back elbow against Aaron Pico, who would have
probably gotten the title shot had he won. I think it's a travesty that he's not getting it.
I think they'll do Lorone Murphy versus Mofsar in London, and hopefully that will be the
number one contender fight. But no, I think Lerone deserved it.
Oh, yeah, look at this.
Hey, Ariel, listen, again, I wasn't born for this, but can you tell me the last time the Knicks
won a championship?
That would be, that would be...
Yo, hey, he's recording on his phone right here, too. He's trying to make a
a meme out of you. Yeah, no, no, no, I know this. What day is it today? December 18th? That would be
December 16th, 2025. We want two days ago. Yeah, bum. What else we got? What else we got?
Hey, Ariel, God bless you. I just want to ask you, what is the 2026 goals for Uncrown
in your team? Oh, thank you so much. Yes, uncrown.com. In case you haven't heard it,
we are the number one unbiased combat sports platform in the world. There's a lot of companies out there.
I'm not throwing shade, but they're all in bed with other promoters and whatnot.
We are 100% unbiased down the middle.
You hear it from us.
You know there's no agenda.
There's no spin.
So we just started uncrowned films.
Did you guys see our two, we have three films so far.
What is BKFC?
What is Fight Circus?
And then we had Fight Feast, the movie, starring Action Bronson, the man himself, Broncelino.
So we've got more of that to come, my friend.
And also, we're going to start adding new podcasts.
We're going to have a boxing podcast that's coming,
not starring me, other people, and a wrestling podcast.
So that's the next thing that we're working on.
But the writing on the site is phenomenal.
The YouTube channel, please if you're not subscribing yet,
please subscribe, like, do all the things.
Thumbs up to the chat, thumbs up to the chat.
And a lot more to come.
So thank you very much for asking about that.
My man over here.
I got another one.
Shout out to Felix right here.
He's serving meatballs at IKEA today.
Yeah.
Oh, hi, hi, Ariel.
Shout out.
Mike Martinez from Chicago is a fan of the Bulls.
I want to congratulate your team on the top.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Explain to me, what exactly was that celebration between Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson the other day?
He gave him the thumb up the butt.
Is that a New York thing or something?
No, it's a friend thing, okay?
You wouldn't know about camaraderie, okay?
So that's something that I would do with my friends.
In fact, I sent it to one of my great friends, Daniel Wolfe, because I said, I feel like this is exactly like something I would do to you.
So I thought it was great.
Jalen's reaction was great.
The vibes are great.
You have to admit.
The vibes are great.
And shout it to Mike Brown, head coach of the next, die-hard MMA fan.
Have I ever told the story about how I met Mike Brown?
Mike Brown, the head coach of the New York Knicks currently,
was coaching the Nigerian men's basketball team,
the 2021 Olympics in Tokyo.
I get a text out of the blue from a number I don't know saying,
hi, this is Mike Brown, coach Mike Brown,
I'm coaching the Nigerian men's basketball team.
Could you put me in touch with Israel Adesania and Kamaro Usman,
back when we were buds,
to record a video to send to the Nigerian men's basketball team?
I'm a huge MMA fan, and I think that they would be able to galvanize and motivate the guys.
And the first thing I think is, like, Mike Brown of ATT fame, like WEC champion Mike Brown.
And then I'm realizing, wait, this is Mike Brown at the time assistant coach for the Golden State Warriors.
Then he becomes the head coach of the Sacramento Kings.
He wins coach of the year.
Anyway, we stayed friends, and now he's the head coach of the Knicks.
So now I'm like able to text the head coach of the Knicks.
If you would have told 12-year-old me that I would have some kind of relationship with the head coach of the New York Knicks,
I would have, you know, blown my mind.
So that's my Mike Brown story.
I know it's a bit of like, hey, look at me.
I have friends.
But, you know, look at me.
I have famous friends.
What else we got?
What else we got?
Oh, we got any more?
Any more?
Before we go.
Oh, yeah, with the Haldi boxing shirt on.
Wow.
That's an OG fan right there.
So we've talked about Jake and Anthony Joshua,
but what about Anderson Silva and Tyrone Willie?
What is your tape?
What do you think?
What do you think?
Anderson is someone because we haven't seen Woodley fight in a while.
I agree.
It's been four years since we've seen Woodley.
Anderson's been more active.
Seems to be an amazing shape.
I saw him today at the Wayans.
He's 50 and I hugged him and I swear it was like hugging this.
He's rock solid like his back is solid.
And I asked them, by the way, I said, what is the secret?
How do I look like you when I'm 50?
He said basically three things.
No sugar.
I heard that.
Okay.
No sugar.
I said, not even a little.
is you know what, not even a little baklava at night to go to sleep, nothing. No ice cream,
nothing. Then he said, no carbohydrates. I said, all right. And then he said, I swear to God,
he said, peace and love. He said, having peace and love in your heart. I said, no hatred,
no bad like karma. He said, peace and love. And I said, all right, Anderson. God bless you.
So I think it's going to be great. And I love the fact that he's there. By the way, that t-shirt is
very special to this city. The Halwani boxing t-shirt that she is rocking that we released during
the pandemic. Shout out to you for buying it. Do you know why that's special? Because all the
proceeds went to a charity called, I think it's called Giving America or Food America. It was during
the pandemic. And we gave all the proceeds to people who were in need at the time. But the
artist who made it is a guy named David Lebitard. And his brother is Dan Lebitard, who's a legend
here in Miami. And unfortunately, about a year and a half ago, David tragically passed away.
And he was a huge fan of the show and a huge supporter of mine.
And so every time I think of that shirt and I see it,
I think of the great Dan Levitard and Dave Lebitard.
So I just want to give Lebo a shout out.
Was there someone else?
I think we got one more here.
Okay.
What do we got?
Ariel, do you expect any good things to come out of this Paramount thing
or so you think it could be rinse and repeat from the ESPN error?
I'm curious as to how motivated they're going to be to put on great fights
because there isn't that pay-per-view paywall.
but I think Dana is very motivated to give them, especially at the beginning, big fights, big fight cards.
You know, they're in the honeymoon phase, but there's a lot of things changing.
They said that the White House card was going to be on CBS.
Now they're saying it's on Paramount Plus.
Where are the prelims going to air?
All this stuff and more.
So I'm curious, look, they have great fighters, a great roster, and I think that they are motivated,
and I think that they like the owners, they like the vibe, they like their mindset.
But I think, just my opinion, I think Dana's lost the fastball.
I don't think he has that passion anymore.
I think he has passion for slap fighting and boxing.
I don't know if he has that passion.
And if he doesn't have that passion,
who is going to bring that passion to the UFC?
So I don't think the Dana of Old puts an interim title fight over an undisputed title fight.
But they're going for the quick fix.
They're going for the cheap pop, as we say in the wrestling business.
And I don't like that.
What else we got?
Okay, last one.
Last one.
What's going on, Ariel?
What's happening?
My name is Justin Bond.
What's it going to take the game?
This is my guy.
Oh, my God.
Do you know this guy?
This man is an absolute.
Why is the legend?
This guy when we...
He doesn't introduce himself.
Yes, when we did uncrown,
this guy does these pictures.
Tell the people what you do.
Tell them.
Oh, he's got a whole binder right here.
Look what he does.
He...
Do mixed media animation.
I made a paper cutout animation for Ariel.
I do also, like,
M.MA work.
I did one for Alex Poetan Pereira.
Yes, it's like a flip book.
It's like a comic and it's a flip book.
This guy is an absolute stud, a legend.
I think he did one for like Kendrick Lamar.
They got like 8 billion likes on it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Wait a second
You're a Kendrick guy
I'm a Kendrick guy
Bro, come on
Six God for life
Now you got beef over a rapist
God for life
Okay what do you got what he got
What's it going to take
To get Petey to move to New York permanently
That would be incredible
That would be
Yes
PT we love you
But I think part of the charm
Is that he's got the bad internet
The bad setup over there
He has to stay up very late
We love Ptze
The crack is 90 with him
I would love that
I would love to see him
every day, but I think he's very happy over
in Blanchardstown. Appreciate you. These two
guys, let's end with these two guys over here at GC.
One dude's got a Donald
Trump mugshot shirt, which is
crazy. Here we go. This
is going to be a real fan question. Please.
You're the journalist. Why
when a fighter who risked his life fights
on the cage jumps on the cage
you've got like 20 security trying to pull him down
and it pisses me off every time.
The guy just almost died.
Adrenaline. He's a professional fighter. And you're like,
get off the cage. Pull him off the cage. Like, leave him
alone to celebrate. Oh, I understand.
When he jumps up. The commission, the commission doesn't want
anyone to get hurt. So you get fine.
Yeah. The most knowing thing for every fan
to watch. Like, leave him alone. The dude just
knocked a guy out, just almost died.
And, like, you can't climb on a cage?
They ruined the celebration. Yeah, like, can you get the
momentum going? Like, leave the
cage. I don't want to mess with the commission. I understand.
What if the cage... But why? You've got
a 200-pound fighter sitting at top of cage.
What if it collapses? Awful.
It's built for Francis and Derek Lose.
Yeah, but not to sit on it.
By the way, of all the questions you could ask, that's the one.
It's a legitimate question that every fan sees every single side.
I know.
It's so annoying.
The better move is jump over it and then shake everyone's hand and do the thing.
Last guy right here, this guy, right here.
You had your hand up, no?
Oh, it was for your buddy.
Okay.
It was for his buddy.
All right.
That's everyone?
Okay, it's awful to end on that note.
We have to end on a better note than that one.
Better note, better note, better note, better note.
My guy, just say it loudly.
Say it loudly.
I know that we've met before.
They used to watch Battle of the Network stars growing up.
Oh, yeah.
And you love the cross promotions.
We know Dana's not doing the cross promotions.
But would you ever do a cross promotion with some of the other guys,
junkie and fighting to do the MMA beat again?
Oh, wow.
That's a real insider.
I love the team that we have.
But I would have no problem with that.
You know, when we did the MMA beat back in the day,
we would have Jeff Wagenheim, who didn't work for us.
Mark Romondi at the time didn't work for us.
So I'm all about everyone getting an opportunity, and I'd love to work with everyone.
And I think that MMA media sometimes gets a bad rap because maybe some of the people that go to the events aren't the Crem de la Crem.
But I think there's a lot of great journalists at junkie, at fighting, at a bunch of other places as well.
And so I would definitely be open to it.
I like what it's in person, and that's the biggest problem, having people all in person.
We did one MMA beat.
We brought it back, but it was virtual.
We'll do more of them.
But to me, the MMA beat has to be in person because I grew up watching the sports.
reporters back in the day, and they were all in person. You know what I'm talking about.
So anyway, thank you very much for that question. Thank you very much. I've gone over our time.
Wow, this has been amazing. First things first, I want to thank the Hard Rock Cafe in Miami here.
Incredible. They put this together very, very quickly. I want to thank DoorDash. This has been
unbelievable, having this iconic bag by our side. And look, there's a couple people here.
There's a couple people here who are going to get mad at me, but I say eff it. All right?
I say eff it because you guys are a part of my family. You're a part of the uncrown team.
Without you guys, we don't have an uncrown team. And so look, I want DoorDash to be a sponsor
of our show. Who wants to see DoorDash be a sponsor of the Ariel Hwani show 2026?
Is that loud enough? Tell them, all right?
Thank you, my friend.
So hopefully from your mouth, and they're going to be so mad at me,
my guys are going to be so mad at me for doing it, but yolo, right?
Yolo.
So thank you very much to DoorDash for being a part of this show
and hopefully more shows to come.
Appreciate them very much.
Thank you very much to our good friends over at Celsius for the support as well.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you to Miami.
I hope you guys watch tomorrow.
And most importantly, Rick, you're not coming out?
Most importantly, he's wearing a Dolphins jersey, for God's sakes.
He doesn't deserve it to be coming out.
Most importantly, thank you to my family for being here.
They're going to be mad at me for mentioning them.
My mom and dad and sister are here.
What are the chances?
Just here on vacation, you know, typical winter vacation
and them being able to come here is amazing.
You know, when Max Kellerman did the press conference
for the Crawford-Cinello card, he said,
you know, without turkey, none of us would be here.
Remember that glazing?
I think people called it Netflix and Ships.
well guess what? Literally without them, without those two people, my mom and dad,
none of this would be possible. So I love them very much and appreciate that very much.
And I love you all very much. Thank you so much. I'll go back there and meet and greet with
every single one of you if I can. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your love and support.
Happy holidays, happy New Year. And I hope you all have a tremendous 2026.
Thank you.
