The Ariel Helwani Show - Robert Whittaker, Jack Della Maddalena, Sean Brady crashes, Jeremy Stephens, On the Nose

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Ariel Helwani kicks of the show with a super-sized edition of On The Nose, with topics including a potential superfight between Alexandre Pantoja and Merab Dvalishvili, Dana White saying Arman Tsarukyan won't get the next title shot, Conor McGregor palling around with Jake and Logan Paul, and more (33:38).Jeremy Stephens joins to preview his BKFC KnuckleMania V main event against Eddie Alvarez and tell some old school stories, including the time Dana White nearly bailed him out of jail on fight night (01:32:44).NewYorkRic and GC jump on the Aviron bike for the latest chapter in their competition and Sean Brady crashes the show to call next (02:13:48)!Robert Whittaker is back to talk about his newly-found friendship with Israel Adesanya, break down the middleweight title fight between Dricus du Plessis and Sean Strickland, and discuss his recovery after the Khamzat Chimaev fight (03:02:33).Jack Della Maddalena outlines his own recovery and looks ahead to his UFC London showdown against Leon Edwards (03:34:25).Join us on the bike: http://avironactive.com/uncrowned

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Obviously, we'll also answer any super chatters out there as well. But I want to answer some proper questions in this post UFC 311 world that we are living in. I want to get some good ones, some fun ones, some juicy ones. Anything goes. No holds barred. And we're nice and toasty inside. Thanks for asking. It is frigid out there.

It is absolutely frigid. I can't even imagine what it's like in my hometown of Montreal right now because it is so cold outside. And so I am delighted to be here indoors talking to all of you about the great sport of mixed martial arts, boxing, pro wrestling. You want to talk a little NFL? You want to talk a little AFC championship game? I'm down.

You want to talk a little Nottingham Forest locking up Murillo? I'm down. You want to talk a little, oh, I don't know, breaking news, Frank? you want some breaking news I just found out this morning that via the new Twitter which is now known as X you can make phone calls via DM how were you doing it before you can can make calls. It's crazy. Video and or audio. Just broke.

It went through the wire. I just saw it on Yahoo Finance. You can make phone calls via DM. Ariel, didn't we cover this the other day? No, we've never talked about this. This is for Mo Pattern in the YouTube chat who set the line at 0.5 mentions of Twitter calls on today's program. Oh, I get it now. All right. Thank you. I was doing that for him. Look, he wins. If he took the over, he wins. There's a lot to be excited about. I actually do have a bit of breaking news,

which I'll get to in a moment. Actually, you know what? Before I get to anything. Oh, by the way, thanks for asking guys. I survived my 24 hour fast. And as my, my nutritionist told me I would hit a wall in the evening and I would wake up feeling like a million bucks. And guess what? He was 1000% correct. I didn't think I was going to make it last night. I was so hungry. We did two shows. We did the regular show and then the ad-e show on DAZN. The thought of not eating anything was just so daunting. I felt like I was breaking. I felt like I hit a wall, and then I dug down deep. I went home.

I watched our Knickerbockers beat the Nets in a probably a little too close for comfort game. I was searching for on-air Jordan in the crowd. He was nowhere to be found. I thought he'd be right next to Sidney Sweeney Who was sitting courtside But alas, it was not to be Nick's got the dub I go to bed My whoop says good, good sleep Wake up, not hungry

Did a little Did a little Averon bike Came to work Still not hungry So thanks for asking everyone, I appreciate it That's what we're doing that's what we're here for no it's very kind of you uh demetrius johnson hit me up recently and said i know you love toys and i heard you talking about your round five toys you know the the figurines

here all these guys back here see some of them a lot of them are covered but you you get the point they're all over the place anyway he said that he found like 11 or 12 of the limited edition Demetrius Johnson round five figurines. I do believe, if my memory serves me correct, that he is claiming that these were the last round fives ever created, which is by far, I mean, you talk about goaded figurines, these are goaded figurines. These are the best by far. MMA. MMA. Wrestling is LJN. He bought them all off eBay. Who'd have thought? And said, I want to send you one. And this morning, I got it. And in fact, I was trying to open it, and then I was looking for scissors, and the boys in the back told me that I should not be opening this that I should leave it as is look how young he looks it's UFC 152

Demetrius Johnson limited edition ultimate collector limited edition age 15 plus how beautiful is this xbox shorts it says x Xbox on his shorts. He was sponsored by Xbox. Isn't this incredible? What do you guys think? Open it or not? No. Do not open it. It'd be closed, man.

Don't even question that. It's just so tempting. I want to touch it. I want to smell it. If DJ's watching right now and he heard you even question that. The smell takes you back to 1991. It's a limited edition. I was dead then.

DJ is saying that there's very few left and i would trust him uh to to know that don't open it that's a collector's item oh my god i mean i'm looking on ebay right now also i love how you say who knew like this would be ebay would be the place to find these nobody in your family like collect stuff and then you wanted to open it and they tell you no don't open it it's a call i never believed in that i believe you only live one life open it touch it smell it play with it what is this no that's the boxes my brother was like that david he was like that everything was in a box everything was neat everything was perfect comics mint condition now i'm reading the comics i'm throwing

them away david knows ball did david ever spill things in the control room no absolutely not are you kidding me we're very neat neat fat look. Look at Frank. Look at Frank just throwing me under the bus here. Nobody said anything about anybody. How am I running the family? It's one thing to throw me under the bus amongst the actual inner circle. You're talking about this on the air while there's very clearly other people listening to this. So, I mean, I'll remember this, Frank. I'll remember this.

No names were mentioned. I feel like we should have Helwani as a running casket list of who can let you down one more time and you just start adding names. And then there's a power ranking. Like, Frank is like number two right now, obviously. I feel like we could just... This is a shoot. This is a shoot. No joke. I actually

just did my will and everything. My last will and testament. Legit. Tell me. Fuck. Is this bringing the will? We're doing the colon and ask me next week On my life On my life Page I think it's 36 It's a massive document

Please make sure Frank Lenz is in attendance Please ensure that he is One of the pallbearers And please In order to recreate Our relationship Have him Put me into the ground

lift me back up put me down again lift me back up it has to be at least 10 times because it's a continuous letting me down situation that's the relationship you can't spell frank you need it one last time you need it one last time constant pull me back up he's in there I love that Actually we had a great moment as we were filling this out I took the liberty To fill this out on my own And then my wife was like So wait, who's taking our kids

If something happens I was like oh my brother She's like oh this is not a conversation So we're like kind of arguing about this in front of the people I'm like of course it was him and she's like well did you ask him i was like well like what's he gonna say no you know like what's he gonna say i'm not available so i took a picture of the thing and uh i i was like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna ask him right now so i took a picture i said i just want to let you know god forbid if anything happens to us they're all going to you

and then he and then his response back wasn't like, wow, you'd think what an honor. I hope it doesn't come to this. He goes, I draw the line at matcha. And I was like, okay, well now. So he's taking the kids but not the dog. Matcha's going to the pound. And my response was, you get the whole kid in caboodle.

That's it, I'm sorry. What's he have against matcha? He's not a big dog guy. None of us were. We're Middle Eastern. Hard to organize. My parents were always very. Yeah, but he could be converted like you. You're a big dog guy none of us were we're middle eastern we're not hard to organize my parents were always very yeah but he could be converted like you you're a big dog guy uh he could be converted and i suspect that's what will happen obviously we hope that this

doesn't come to fruition yeah it goes without saying let's let's not have this happen amazingly though when i mentioned frank being one of the pallbearers my wife was totally okay with it she's like oh yes uh he does let you down all the time He should be in that role She expected it she said oh I assumed Frank was in The kids thing was a conversation This one was like everybody was on the same page Who else is it Frank The pallbearers

Darren Till By the way this is going to be a fantastic funeral By the way The New York Knicks Not the Buffalo Bills We're about to rectify that in a little less than a month By the way, this is going to be a fantastic funeral, by the way. The New York Knicks. The New York Knicks. Not the Buffalo Bills. We're about to rectify that in a little less than a month. I will say.

We need six. We're only halfway there. This sounds the most confident you've ever. On my death? No. Oh, okay. No, no. When it comes to the Bills, right?

Or when it comes to your teams. Yeah. You're always very cautious, especially as the stakes are ramping up, right? We're now getting into divisional rounds at conference. You're always very cautious, especially as the stakes are ramping up, right? Like we're now getting into divisional rounds in the conference. You're always reserved. It's like, I'm not thinking about it. I'm not talking about it.

Now you're like, we're going to win it. This is very forward of you. I support it. I'm trying to put it out there. I'm trying to be positive. I support it. I'm trying to put it out there. All day long, all I'm watching are Bill's clips,

reels, TikToks, anything I could get my hands on, especially the ones with like the real emotional music attached to it and all the heartbreak. The one I sent to the group chat, I got chills for. No, I sent it. I showed it to my kids right away. And then, and I'm like, while they're eating breakfast this morning,

I'm like, look at this. Look at this right here. Do you see what it means? Do you see the heartbreak? What do they say? Do you see the pain? They're like, are you going to start crying again? And then,

and I was like, do you understand? And then I started tearing up. And my wife says, you're an overgrown child. No, no, no. It means something. It means something. When you haven't gotten a chip in your whole life, it really. Speaking of the will, you should record a video.

God forbid we never have to play it. But it's just like Hey guys Something horrible's happened I just want to thank All the pallbearers and everything So you can squeeze The last juice

Out of this bit Okay we're at We're at two I still need to There's definitely been Four We're at three French coffee

You gotta get the last three Wait who's the three Isn't it six people Frank Till The next Oh what am I getting the whole team to go? I mean, at least

James Dolan? Yeah, James Dolan Alright, James Dolan, fine Alright, fine, fine, fine So James Dolan, Frank Lenz, Darren Till Frank is like wildly offended that you're saying his last name As if we've never said it before Oh my god, the horror

This guy freaking is one step away from doxing me And putting on my social security number Jesus Still trying to figure out the last through the through the the frank lens.com there's gotta be what i want to start to the show by the way somebody dm'd me all caps oh my god don't let him open that dj figure so there's don't let me see how much that's worth what is it dimitrius one uh you know what you know what it's worth, Connor? It's priceless. Look at this. I tried right here. Don't try.

Did you already cut it open? Don't open it. Before I tried, I was like, pfft. Don't open it. Did he buy all of them? He said he bought all the ones that were left that he found online. Yeah, he said he bought 12. He said he found 12 on eBay and bought them all.

By the way, what I was referring to earlier about who to thought wasn't that they would be available. It's like, imagine you're some guy selling your Demetrius johnson limited edition and it's dj himself it says true demetrius johnson yeah you're shipping it to dj that's absolutely hilarious you're like what i can't find any of them on ebay yeah they really are priceless etiquette at that point do you just send them free you know like do you it would it feel weird charging demetrius johnson five bucks for his own figure i feel like i just send them i think it's a i think it's an unbelievable okay i actually i just found one yeah they're not cheap man they're not what is it what is it 135 yeah wait

a second okay by the way that's not bad i think they used to go for like 35 bucks or something like that but the question is i thought he bought them all. I guess not. I found one. On eBay? Yeah. Send it to DJ. No yellowing or anything on it. Just snatch it up. Is it a sold listing, Connor? No, no, no. You can buy it right now.

Sold listing. I'm an eBay vet over here, Frank. Come on. When you said no yellowing, what does yellowing mean? I guess like the thing I ordered. There's some sweet looking ones, man. You know how the package on stuff sometimes starts to turn that brownish yellow? Got it, got it, got it.

And by the way, are there other round fives in boxes over there? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All in the same box. I'm looking at an Overeem, an Anderson Silva, a Nate Diaz. This Nate Diaz one is sweet. We have Nate Diaz. Limited edition, though. This one, he's wearing a shirt that says Metre Militia.

Metal Militia. Real question for you, Ariel. Yes, yes. Have you ever ordered anything from eBay? Of course. You know what I used to buy off of eBay? And this will show just how much of an OG I am. I used to buy pro wrestling compilation tapes on VHS.

Old WCW Nitros, old like Mid-South Wrestling. Someone would make a compilation. I would buy the tapes. Oh, so these weren't official releases. These were the people who comped themselves. No, it was just like some jamoke doing it. Did you ever get a dud? Did they ever send you like a VHS? No, it was fantastic. What was the video quality? Because they tried to cram them all on one tape. Yeah, you know, it was a reused VHS. You know, you'd see the lines

a little bit, but I was all in. That's awesome. Yeah. Man, there's a GSP UFC 83 special edition. One where he's wearing the red karate outfit. That's awesome Man there's a GSP UFC 83 Special edition One where he's wearing the red Karate outfit Yo this this this No he's got the gi

How much? Only 5 bucks I might buy it right now Get it get it get it Keep it in the box Keep it in the box I'm saying when you get it don't open it from the box Don't let Ariel touch it Okay box. It is in the box. Keep it in the box. I'm saying when you get it, don't open it from the box. That's what we do. Don't let Ariel touch

it. It'll try to open it. Okay. And by the way, someone's asking the other thing. Why does Ariel have a nutritionist rich boy?

Free. Okay. It's free. Don't worry about it. Handless one. As if having a nutritionist rich boy is an insult.

Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Thank you. Thank you for having me back. You know what I do have? I have an Averon and on Wednesdays, it's Averon

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We have the bike in the studio here. In fact, it shall be making an appearance later in the program. We've been using the Averon Fit Bike here in the studio, and I won't lie, it's a little addictive. I get so into the games that I completely forget I'm working out. Once you start, you're locked locked in competing head-to-head like GC and Rick have been racing against the clock or chasing your personal best they've got multiplayer games races on-demand classes scenic rides and the most streaming options I have ever seen I'm

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to end boring workouts. Thank you so much to our good friends over at Avra. Great people, husband and wife, salt of the earth menches. We love them and we're so proud that they are a part of our team. Later in the program, we shall have round three, GC, Rick on the bike. Cannot wait for that. Ready, baby. So we talked about a little breaking news. I received a text message this morning from Andy Foster of the California State Athletic Commission,

the executive director of the CSAC. And obviously a story that has been playing out all week, which emanated on this program was Murab Dualishvili saying that he sort of tricked the commission into looking at the same leg twice. He had the massive gash on his leg. They asked him to look at his shin, lift his pants up. He did that. Then they kept talking. They said, let's see the other one. And he showed them the other one. And it's an incredible story. It's a veteran savvy move on his part. Look, it's like the great, the late great Eddie Guerrero once said, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. And this isn't cheating per se, but it's just, you know, this is a guy who's trying to make it to the fight. And look, it all worked out. In any event, I received this statement from Andy

Foster regarding Murab Diwali Shvili's version of the story. The promoter of the UFC, this is the statement, made the California State Athletic Commission aware of licensee Marab Davalishvili's leg in December. Mr. Davalishvili was granted prior approval by the commission to allow him the option to tape the injury and wear a neoprene sleeve. Upon medical review of the wound, it was determined that the wound was healed and was not contagious and was not staph infection. Mr. Davalishvili was medically cleared by the commission and its ringside physicians leading up to the fight. If he had not been medically cleared, then he would not have been able to compete.

After Mr. Davalishvili was cleared to compete, he proceeded to fight in a five-round mixed martial arts championship bout that he won by decision. I then said, thank you. I then asked his version of events. Did that not happen? And the response was, I am not certain if he was aware we knew or not. Of course we knew. Our docs checked him. Our inspectors checked him. In fact, fight day, I was told he wasn't wearing

it. He had healed. So there you have it. Much ado about nothing, no harm, no foul. Let's take both their words for it and be at peace with it all. I've often said that the California State Athletic Commission is the gold standard. They are the gold standard. There's no doubt about that in regards to boxing or MMA commissions, sanctioning, they are the best. And I think Andy Foster is the best at what he does. And so I'll take his word for it and I'll take Maram's word for it. We're neutral, down the middle, no problem. Jack de la Maddalena, who is going to be headlining an event on March 22nd, which I just found out, by the way. I don't know if you know this, Mr. Pizzi, but the March 22nd event at the O2 Arena is the 30th UK event in the history of the UFC. Did you know it was their 30th? Did not know that, no.

How about that? It's JDM versus Leon Edwards. His first time fighting in a year. He's been through a lot. He's waking up at 5.30 a.m. Perth time to join us. Now he knows how Leon feels when he was fighting Bilal that time. Wow. That might be my first question.

Jack, how tired are you? You see, this is why leon did you imagine yes could you imagine fighting a guy at this hour um he'll join us at 5 30 at at um well 5 30 his time uh 4 30 hour time at four o'clock we're going to be joined by another man who's waking up very early albeit not as early as mr jack the great robert whit, Bobby Knuckles, who's been in the news as of late. This friendship that has blossomed with former foe slash rival Israel Adesanya, look at them. They're loving life. They're hanging out. Did you guys see this moment? They did an interview on the Freestyle Bender YouTube channel. Incredible channel.

Shout out to David. They do a great job. Robert and Izzy are sitting, shooting the breeze, chopping it up, previewing UFC 311. And there's an amazing moment where Robert is given a cup of matcha tea. And this is his reaction. Thanks, buddy. Thank you very much. You did good boy.

I had to chuck that in there. This coffee's green. Oh yeah it's matcha. Just a heads up. This coffee is green. No we're not wasting it. I don't know if you guys have lured me here. I like how he looked at it first.

To partly get rid of me. How great is that? Just phenomenal. It really warmed my heart seeing those two together. Two of the best guys, great personalities, great sportsmen, ambassadors of this great sport coming together. Love that. So can't wait to talk to him. And at 2.30, want to let you know that little heathen himself, Jeremy Stevens, will be headlining the Knucklemania 5 event on Saturday night in the Illidelf, aka Philadelphia, against Eddie Alvarez. He'll be joining us at 2.30 to talk about that.

He's looking to go 3-0 in BKFC. So a fun show with a lot to get to on today's program, a lot to be excited about. Saturday's going to be a fantastic day. There's two matchroom events on DAZN, one in Nottingham, the other in Las Vegas.

I would say the one in Las Vegas has a tasty main event, Diego Pacheco against Steven Nelson. That's a big-time main event. Steven Nelson, in case you don't know, is a longtime stablemate and friend of one Terrence Crawford, a protege, if you will. He'll be fighting in that main event. And also at the same time, Saturday night, they also have knuckle mania five at the same time.

Um, actually a little bit earlier because it's in Dubai, we've got the PFL Dubai champion series event. Did you guys, did you guys see this face off between Paul Hughes and, and, uh, and Usman or Maga made off yesterday.

This is amazing. This clip is amazing. It needs to be passed around. It needs to be showed to everyone. And it This is amazing. This clip is amazing. It needs to be passed around. It needs to be showed to everyone. And it's a shame. It's a crime, if I'm being honest, PT. This event is flying under the radar.

This main event is so damn good and so damn intriguing. I loved everything about this clip. Take a look. Let's go. We can do it here. If you want, you can do it here. How good is this? Let's go. We can do it here. Few days. If you want, we can do it here. How good is this?

I love these face-offs. Peace. Front lats. Ah, this is great. Yo, Terry. Time. Let's go. Few days. We can do it here. Yo Terry. It's time. Let's go. We can do it here. If you want you can do it here. Do what? Whatever you want.

Bro we're fighting for days. You focus on that day. I'm focused all day. Every day. You're looking past me. Doesn't matter. You're looking past me. Who are you? Exactly. Good one Paul.

We'll see what? Doing it for Derry. PT, BT, how great is that shit? Paul Hughes standing on business there, huh? Man, he's so good. I feel like this guy has the potential to be the new face of Irish MMA. He was one of those guys for a very long time we've been looking at. Him and Ian Gary in particular, you know this, Ariel.

When they were both in Cage Warriors, there was always this kind of thing going on. They'd have a bit of fun with it, like who was the best guy fighting out of Ireland but that question has remained true uh right the way through their careers and obviously Ian jumped out ahead of him for quite a bit with his UFC run um but Paul with a win here and obviously on the back of his win against AJ McKee he's making a great case for himself um you mentioned it flying under the radar um i i think and it's unfortunate because we've talked about the the the difference of opinion well the the different reactions from the the likes of ireland um and the us in terms of the connor news i think it was just very ill time the pfl um put out the kind of dagestan v Ireland 2 thing in the lead up to this, because the case was ongoing at that time.

I think, as I said at the start, I think this is a chance for us to move the story on. And the way it is, is like circumstances, obviously, where Conor have gotten a lot worse and the opinion of him has dropped in Ireland. But really, we've been doing this since 2014. Every Irish forward that comes along, it's like, oh, this guy, he's the next, has dropped in Ireland but really we've been doing this since 2014 every Irish for it that comes along it's like oh this guy he's the next you know Conor McGregor there's never going to be another one like there could be a new face though and I think Paul Hughes is that guy absolutely and the way he's behaving all week he's carrying himself like a champion

and the word in the street it um is that over in Dubai Usman not the friendliest of chaps throughout the week so i don't know if that means he's struggling with a weight cut or something like that but um obviously his brother lost against uh marab there at the weekend and against a team like abib's you're looking for anything right like these guys are so good you're looking for any possible weakness could this uh get them kind of mentally drifting ahead of this like could could usman have been watching that going on no he's beat my brother that means i too could be defeated um so very very interesting fight i can't wait for it there's four irish fighters

in total on the card and big opportunities for a lot of them nate kelly uh kenny makoana is on the on the card as well and then john mitchell so big night for irish mma uh but i do think they could have made it a bigger deal but gone with a different promotional line given the circumstances over here i don't necessarily blame them because on a global scale i understand where you're coming from from a from a irish perspective on a global scale it's the easiest route to take the timing as you said off unfortunate uh butortunate. But I don't, I'm not surprised. And I don't necessarily blame them because it's just the easiest thing to do. Because remember, this all started with him kind of saying like, I'm going to have Conor

my corner and this and that. Obviously, we didn't know how things would play out. But that was sort of the, you know, the jumping off point. So I don't blame them from a promotional standpoint. Look, they're trying, they're trying to do anything right now. The PFL is in desperate need of A, new stars, and B, to just get things rolling. The only thing I don't like about this fight, you know, the card is all right. It could have been better.

There are all kinds of issues with it. But to me, the main event is worth the price of admission alone, if you want to call it that way, worth the price of your max subscription or your DAZN subscription. We found out it's going to air on DAZN in the UK and Ireland. So in case you're wondering, that's how you'll be able to watch it this weekend as well. So a massive weekend for our friends at DAZN. Only thing I don't like is that it's not for the PFL lightweight title.

This would be the perfect fight to usher in that new era. You're having two of your best guys to a degree, homegrown talent. Usman is very much a homegrown Bellator guy. Paul, yes, had success in Cage Warriors, but never in the quote-unquote major leagues, and that's not me knocking Cage Warriors at all, but he's taken the step up. Massive

deal. Much buzz surrounding his signing. Make this the start of the new era. Make this the beginning of a new chapter. Make it for the inaugural Pfl lightweight title barry bellator once and for all and who better than these two guys who most would say can hang with the very best in the ufc in this particular weight class it's the perfect entry into this

world and again it boggles my mind that they're literally having these two guys fight for the belt of a dead promotion how does that that make any sense? It's dead. It does not exist. Like I'm trying to think of an equal scenario. It would almost be like if you get it like when the NFL and the AFL merged or the NBA and the ABA merged, if they would then hold an ABA championship game or an AFL championship, we know they merged them as one and they then played for the NFL Superbowl or the NBA finals. They don't keep the

old thing just because it has some sort of nostalgia attached to it. Some sort of cache. It's asinine. It's stupid. It's idiotic. Make it for the PFL title. And guess what? You got three days to make this right. You can easily make this right. Everyone will rejoice. That's a good point. Make it right. You literally have three days. Do it today.

Bring in that belt. Fly it over. FedEx it. You can make it happen. So anyway, there's probably going to be more questions about this. Let's get into everyone's favorite segment of the week. It is time for On the Nose, presented by our good friends over at Averon. Let's get into it, gents.

Dominic, hey, Ariel and crew. I would love to hear all of your guys' thoughts on if you think a super fight between Pantoja and Murab could possibly be made in the near future, and also how you think a fight like that would play out. Both very talented grapplers with good conditioning that have already fought most of the top competition in their respective divisions. Thanks and much love. I saw John Anik bring this up. I love it. First of all, I don't know, is the juice worth the squeeze? No. Right? It's not blockbuster, A.

And B, I like to see dominant champions go on long winning streaks in their weight class. And so Pantoja has a few more defenses under his belt. I want to see if Pantoja can go on this long run and try to challenge DJ. I want to see Marab. That was Marab's first title defense. I just, I like it. It's fun. We could debate it, but I don't think it's a smart move for

Pantoja, and I don't think the demand is worth halting the momentum that they have right now. Look at what happened to Volkanovski when he moved up, and I'm not suggesting the same thing would happen, but it did change his momentum, and so I don't think it's the time to do that. I'd rather see Pantoja figgy. 100%. I'm't think it's the time to do that. Rather see Pantoja, Figge.

100%. I just, I'm worried about the weight cut. I mean, you hear Josh Barnett on the show on Monday talking about weight cutting. I just think Figge's, Figge's 125 pound days are behind him. Did, did find out. What's the gain for the lads?

Like if they do that, like I feel like at this stage, what we're all kind of arguing for being that dominant champion i think that's you're better off right like based on history based on what we've seen i think that's the best way to go pantoja's obviously cleared out as the vision marabs cleared out as the vision but um they're building real legacies now like we're in a situation where we're talking about pantoja and marabas are they the greatest in the division I'd rather see them go out and stake a claim an even better claim than they already have of being the greatest of all time in the divisions yeah I it's true there aren't a ton of great options there's Kaikar France out there love him um against against

Pantoja he deserves another crack Mokaev we talked about him it doesn't look like it's happening anytime soon and so yes this is what we were talking about, I think, on Monday. They've got a contender issue in the UFC right now. And I've probably brought up this story a million times. I remember exactly where I was when he told it to me. MGM Grand, we're at the buffet line before one of the big events. And it was so fun back in those days because you could talk to Sean Shelby and Joe Silva. They would just be eating. Rogan was there eating.

Like it was a very sort of smaller, tighter knit community, if you will. And I'll never forget Joe Silva saying, my job is not to build champions. My job is to build contenders. And then they figure it out and they become champions. I need a queue of contenders. I need this guy, champion to fight X, Y, and Z.

A, B, and C. And right now, for whatever reason, they don't seem to have that in each weight class. They don't have A, B, and C. One, two, three guys lined up. At least not juicy ones. And maybe part of the problem is that some guys have to go through a gauntlet

just to get to the title shot these days for whatever reason. And they're blowing through some of those potential contenders before they get to the belt. And then when they get to the belt, there's no interesting matches before. I don't know. I don't know. You could come up with a million different scenarios. But that seems to be the case right now. All right.

Happy Wednesday, gang. This is from Jordan. Not the same Jordan as on-air Jordan. After seeing GC marvel with joy yesterday at finding out Sergeant Slaughter turning on America and joining forces with Saddam Hussein being a legit WWF storyline. And we watched it afterwards as well. I was going to say, you thought I was marveling on the show when I was actually watching it. It was a sight to behold. It was ridiculous. It was amazing.

With General Adnan Akbar by his side. And he's translating. The best, yes. Akbar speaking in Arabic and Sergeant Slaughter is translating what he's saying. Incredible. Can he guess, okay, this is for you, GC. Can you guess which of these three is the fake WWF slash E storyline? Okay, so he's going to read three scenarios.

I'm going to read three scenarios. This is great. And you have to guess which is fake. This is actually fantastic because as you were going through those figurines, I knew Chris Hardy and Macho Man, and that was it. Okay, Chris Hardy does not exist.

It's Matt or Jeff. Jeff Hardy. I knew Jeff Hardy and I knew Macho Man. Okay, here we go. Here we go. 77-year-old Mae Young giving birth to a hand after a relationship with, quote, sexual chocolate. That was his nickname, Mark Henry. That's option one.

You have to guess which is the fake one. Big Boss Man interrupting the funeral of the Big Show's father, chaining the casket to the back of his car and dragging it away. Finally, Vince McMahon going against Donald Trump in a hair versus hair match. Loser has their head shaved. Okay. So I watched the doc, so I know the hair versus hair match is real. Yeah. Would you have known before?

No. I'd heard the term hair versus hair match i didn't know what it meant all right so that's out ah once again i'm gonna go 77 year old woman gives birth to a hand and uh big boss man interrupts the funeral i'm only gonna go with the hand one being real because it's so ridiculous like that couldn't have possibly been a storyline. There's no way. So I'm going to go with option B as being the fake one. Pizza, you seem to agree?

Yeah, well, brilliant. I mean, this lad, if he made up the force field there, that's incredible. But I agree. So the beauty of this is that they're all real. Oh boy. And he writes afterwards. No, no, no. He writes afterwards, in all caps,

don't read this out loud, Helwani. As you probably know, none of these three are fake. Just want to play with GC a bit. A 77-year-old gave birth to a hand. She had a relationship with sexual chocolate Mark Henry, former Olympic gold medalist weightlifter. They're a group. She gets pregnant, And they air the delivery

And it's a hen This is all from the mind of Vince McMahon This is Attitude Era Late 90s WWF television I'm watching this in high school Eating it up, loving it Nah, I didn't really love that one I'm surprised you didn't bring up Katie Vick

Katie Vick is the one where It was implied That I do believe Triple H had relations With a dead person In a casket I believe that's not On air

Necrophilia Yeah Yes You know how you make Those comparisons Of wrestling and magic The gathering all the time I just want to say

None of that has happened It was a weird time I love getting Weird times for sure I can't see Cody Rhodes doing any of those things in today's day and age. Nah, this is more of a Peter. I wouldn't mind if they did. It sounds exciting, you know? They need to punch up these scripts

a bit if you're asking me. Necrophilia can stay off. Hand birth can stay off. I'm actually surprised that Necrophilia didn't get into the doc. Shout out to Rick who in the midst of all of that slacked me. All of these are real, right? I, like you, was locked in. I saw all of these, so I knew that these were all real.

Okay, we're getting into the nitty gritty here. This is from the Sushi Dude. Listen, I just read the questions, guys, so please. Ariel, I hate even asking this, but yet he is. What do you make of Elon's physical gesture at the inauguration? I'm appalled. People are downplaying it.

Am I reading too much into it? Frank's my moral compass in these situations. Do I answer this or not? You have to answer it. Okay. What do you think my response is going to be? I think it's appalling to you as well. All right.

Honestly, I think Elon Musk is a very awkward guy. I think he's supremely weird. And I think he was telling people, your heart is with me. And he did that move, which, you know, people have actually done it with me as well. Now, that's what I think. Do I know? No. But when I saw the clip, I was like, yeah, he's a supremely awkward guy.

Have you ever seen him in any sort of social setting? I do not think he was saying Heil Hitler. That's my two cents. Anyone disagree, by the way? I'm happy. I disagree. I don't know. I'm not hot enough on the topic. It would be impossible for any of us to go inside the mind of Elon Musk. No, but I know, but

I really think in that moment, Elon Musk was up there saying, yeah, let me give a subtle or not so subtle salute to Hitler. Potentially not. He is a pretty big Twitter troll. There is an argument. I think it's trolling. Yeah, I think if it was anything, he was trolling. It's like so he could tell his friends, like, did you see what I was able to do on the stage?

And like now they're eating it up. Was it intentional? Was it not? Like that's just been his MO. Even calling Twitter X is like an inside joke for him. I didn't find it offensive. I thought it was weird that it was being made out to be such a big deal. I'm not some Elon Musk supporter. I don't love him. I think X is a

cesspool. I've said all of this already. I don't own a Tesla, yada, yada, yada, yada. But I didn't think that it was what everyone was making it out to be. So I personally wasn't offended. I'm not downplaying it. I just thought it was a guy being awkward doing this and everyone then looking for a reason to be upset or offended because it's on this day where this new regime is coming in. They're very controversial. They're very polarizing. Ah, look, they're back. They're back. That's the way I took it. But look, if someone's going to be offended about it, then I'm not going to hate on them. But my read on it was, and by the way, and I hope no one is listening. No one's listening.

Well, that's a weird. I hope. No, well, I'll tell you why I said that. So my wife's family is very, I might get in a huge amount of trouble for being so. Oh, now I'm going to turn you up. I don't know about this dude wife i don't know about this dude is very liberal and our group chat has now just become it is i i wrote to them yesterday i'm like when did this group chat become you know the dark web reddit underbelly like conspiracy theory

it's just all this stuff and like i don want to read this. I don't want to partake in any of this, but it's that type of mindset that's like, oh, look, look, look, look what's happening. I don't want to partake. I'm peace and love, peace and love. We are all one. I'm in the middle.

Let us all come together, the United States of America and Canada. 51st state, I'm open to it. I'm open to it. When we take you, then it'll be I'm open to it. When we take you? Imagine, right? Ariel, your theory, that stands, okay?

Let's just imagine your theory. Awkward moment. How long? Would you say as he's walking off the stage, he goes, do you reckon that looked like? Him? Probably not at all. Everybody else, probably instantaneous. No, he's right.

Because Jon Lennon is just like awkward as shit. He's so awkward. Have you ever seen him move? Have you ever seen him like at those parties when they're dancing? He's just an awkward dude. I think he's an alien, personally. He's an awkward dude. Plausible deniability.

He does have like that barrel chest belly. It does kind of look alien-like, P torso twins me and elon oh you have a torso like that same same kind of build you gotta hit the pool when i come out the plant when i come out to blanche y'all have pools there there's not many pools in blanche it's a shame it's actually i was gonna say it's a shame if nobody's watching this because we just could actually throw this in that group chat ariel just put this clip can you clip it off for me? I'll clip it off and you send it to them I think every group chat is that now though

By the way I chimed in I was like wow This group chat has gotten real positive And delightful these days That wasn't received What did they say? Well they basically said oh here comes Mr. Positivity himself I got that That's a good clap back To be fair Well, they basically said, oh, here comes Mr. Positivity himself. I got that.

That's a good clap back, to be fair. And I was like, all right, I am going to take my group chats elsewhere. Did you leave? Ariel Owani has left the group. If you leave, it does send a message that you've left. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I wouldn't do that. I mean, is there, you know, has the mute function been utilized? Perhaps.

You know, I can't confirm nor deny, Frank. I can't. Okay, we're getting all the good ones. Everyone's spicy on this Wednesday, January 22nd. This is from White Whale Holy Grail. Hello, Ariel. Let me get to the point and say you are failing us as a reporter. The biggest story in MMA news is not being talked about,

so spill the beans or you're not getting number 15. Bad news, chump. 15 has been had moronta 16 uh anthony smith has not appeared on the bym pod while paul felder is there for two months although they won't announce him as the co-star michael kias's pod with felder seems to have been thrown to the side while smith started his own is there drama we are not aware of between the voices of the uf UFC Who is sleeping with whom Who is not doing their research

Thanks I'm just reading the question As I said there's no whole part I don't know what he's implying But the point is Can I be honest with you guys I was unaware of all of this Until Smith was on the show

And then I looked at the comments And people were like ask about this And I'm like nah I'm not asking I'm not putting him on the spot. And then I looked at the comments and people were like, ask about this. And I'm like, nah, I'm not asking. I'm not putting him on the spot like that about his, you know, clearly he's moved on, but maybe he just wanted his own show. I don't know.

Does anyone know more Intel on all this? PT? No. Like what? Just why would you want a song and dance? Like just if you left, why would you make a big deal of it? Just that's it.

That's what Anthony Smith's doing. I, I, uh, it's funny because everyone accuses me of being some sort of drama queen, and then they all want the drama. Like, they're dying for me. And then if I asked it, they would say, oh, look at Ariel.

All he cares about is the drama. The same people who want me to ask it. Isn't that funny? It's like the WhatsApp group all over again, isn't it? Yeah. Mr. Mystery Balls replies to this and says, this might be too hot to handle. I think recently Ariel's on his best behavior and staying away from feuds.

That's right. Oh, he's just trying to goad you into doing it. He did it. Congratulations. It's my first psychology. Yeah, that's exactly right. It was amazing. Fair play to him.

Bottom line is though, I don't know. And I would be lying if I said I cared. Jimmy. We don't care. That's right. That's right. And Darren, you're I said I cared. Jimmy. We don't care. That's right. That's right. And Darren, you're on the shit list. Okay.

Let's just leave it at that. Everyone stop chatting shit. I mean, we could just, you know, emulate. You could just ring him and he'd be on the show. You could also just ring him and he'd be on the show right now. Who, Darren? Yeah. I think that's, like, I heard you talking about this. You want me to call him right now

via Twitter DM? You could literally just call him. Like, don't schedule him in future. Just pick up your phone. Don't put it on the billboard, like the post or anything, and just be like, oh, we have half an hour.

It's going to ring till now, and he will answer the phone. This is some great production, PT. By the way, who wants to be the first to tell PT that I tried to do this six times on yesterday's show? He knows.

He's saying do it again. Oh. Yesterday, you were told it was a family matter. Yesterday, we were given an excuse, though, an excuse that we all are, you know. Skeptical of? Because, like, 20 minutes later, he's calling John Fury not very nice names. It doesn't take much to tweet. Do you want me to call him or not, PT?

Do it. Do it. All right. Here we go again. I'm still surprised you can do this. Yeah, no, it's crazy. Video or audio? X on the way.

Oh, baby. Well done, Elon. Shout out to Elon. Another win. Another win. Here it is. I love this song. I almost think it's better that he doesn't answer at this point.

It's just a great... It's a great bit. Do almost think it's better that he doesn't answer at this point. It's just a great... It's a great bit. Do you think he's panicking? He's good as well. Hey, do you want to come on today? Anyway, Jimmy's up next. Hey, Ariel, just wondering if you could have Scott Coker on. I would be interested in hearing him without the promoter filter.

It's not a bad shout, Jimmy. I've asked him to come on. He doesn't really want to talk right now. But it's a great idea. I would love to talk to him Post I feel like Scott Coker Never really wanted to talk

And that was the beauty of him Maybe That's a good point And now he definitely Doesn't want to talk I'm going to hang up now How much would you say Coker stays up to date

With MMA Since he's parted ways With the company Not much You mean You mean PFL slash Bellator Or just MMA in general In general with MMA since he's parted ways with the company. Not much. You mean PFL slash Bellator or just MMA in general? In general. I wouldn't say he's checking in that much.

He's good. Listen, he made a nice chunk of cash from the Strikeforce deal. Now, that was back in 2011, so I don't know where that's at now, but I think he's pretty set. CE, Ariel, on Monday's show, at the very start, six to eight minutes on Spotify, thank you, you said Islam, the best lightweight, quote, maybe. Just want to clarify what you meant by this.

Is it one, best lightweight at the moment, or two, best lightweight of all time? Just wondering, because if it's one, and you think only maybe Islam is best at 55 right now, you have some serious explaining to do. Yeah, that's right. He's not the best of all time. At the moment, he could be. Is he the best lightweight right now, like of the current crop of fighters?

Absolutely. Is he the greatest of all time? No, I think in his prime, BJ Penn was number one. Now, does it end up being Islam? He's well on his way. Well on his way. And I think there's a strong case to be made that he has surpassed Khabib. And I also think there's a strong case to be made that he has become a better fighter than Khabib, not just surpassed him in accolades, that he has blended when he, obviously we know about his grappling, we know about his submissions, we know about all of that, takedowns, everything. The striking isn't anything to go, oh my God, this is the highest level striking. It's rather basic, but it's so damn effective. He doesn't try to complicate things. He doesn't try to wow

you with his striking, but he's just that damn good at what he does. And so he's well on his way. I just have a ton of respect for BJ in his prime. I'm talking UFC 84 BJ, Sean Shirk, UFC 80 Joe Stevenson, UFC 107, Kenny Florian to me was his peak. But well, well, well on his way. There's no doubt about it. Absolutely. I feel like that's pretty fair hut ariel dariush getting paid but what about wonder boy what wait what about what wonder boy went through a while back when his opponent pulled out dana said something like you don't not fight and get paid well this is different because they took dariush's opponent away from him totally different didn't they start there well wonder boy does they did sort it out with Wonderboy though? They did sort it out. I don't think he got exactly what he wanted,

but they still took his opponent away as opposed to here with Wonderboy that this man is bringing up. Wonderboy, in their opinion, I'm not agreeing with it, but they just said, look, you can fight the guy and take a purse, a percentage of his purse. You're choosing not to fight him. So you're not going to get paid your full purse. It's totally different.

In my opinion. Did the UFC change their protocol on this? Or has Benito just one of their guys, thanks, go Bills and Commanders. Is Commanders not like one of the worst names in sports? Oh, they need to really think about this. What was it called? Washington Football Team.

The football, that's awful, man. Oh, you didn't like called? Washington football team. You found it called the football. That's awful, man. Oh, you didn't like that? The football team. Washington football team. That's stupid. That's stupid. They need to be called like that. Wait, you like the commanders?

I like commanders better than football team. I just hate the... It's just new. The font and everything. That's all it is. It's just new. I don't like...

I don't like how the logo is like right here. Like they have the writing here. I like classic number. Football jerseys should not have any writing right here, in my opinion. On the chest. I don't like that. It's too...

The Bills have any writing? No, they have... Well, the classic one doesn't, but they have... I don't know if you know this, but I have a Bills jersey here. It is writing right there. No, no. This is the NFL logo, and this is little, but this is not on every jersey. The white one, I don't think, has it. Jordan's saying that it is on every jersey. I think it's on every jersey you guys have. Yeah, yeah, this is the NFL logo and this is little, but this is not on every jersey. Like the white one, I don't think has it.

Jordan's saying that it is on every jersey. I think it's on every jersey you guys have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to 1990 Thurman Thomas. It's not 1990. That's the team I fell in love with. I can't speak to any of this. You just like the name Commanders.

I think it's fine. I think their helmets are shit. I love the burgundy. I don't have a better option, but it does stink. The burgundy, yeah. I even like the colors, JC. This is where I just think that the font and the name, I don't know. Maybe it's just the font. Same spot where, actually, the commanders have a black uniform that.

Oh, it looks like Frank's. Yeah, no writing. No writing on the black uniform. Can we agree that Texans is probably the worst name, though? Oh, I like Texans. I guess we can't agree. Why did they use the Oilers? Oilers was great. Yeah, the Oilers was a great name. I guess because the Titans

owned it. What is that? They used to be called the Houston Oilers and then they moved to Tennessee and for a season they were known as the Tennessee Oilers but it made no sense. They went to the Super Bowl that year, right? Yes, what a Super Bowl that was. That was the one against the Rams.

They were the Titans then. Had they changed? Yeah, they probably did change. Yeah, they were the Titans. So it was just like one season, I think it was. I mean, it's the Utah Jazz from New Orleans. Oh, 100%. LA Lakers, we could do this all day.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Minneapolis. But the best comparison is the Charlotte Hornets moved to New Orleans, became the New Orleans Hornets. Then the Charlotte Bobcats became an expansion team. Then the New Orleans Hornets changed to the Pelicans, just like the Tennessee Oilers became the Tennessee Titans. And that freed up Hornets, and then the Bobcats became the Hornets. And so once the Tennessee Titans became the Tennessee Titans after so once the tennessee titans became the tennessee titans after becoming

the tennessee oilers they should have given oilers back to houston and dropped texans texans is like bobcats jordan just explained to me that the chiefs used to be dallas texans and i didn't know that um then i think it's heck houston texans is actually fine that's like a homage to the old dallas team no i don't know i mean this is their opinion but they don't even play in dallas so why Houston Texans is actually fine. It's like a homage to the old Dallas team. No, I don't know. I mean, this is an opinion. But they don't even play in Dallas. So why would they?

Because they're in the same state. Yeah, they play in Houston. You're still a Texan if you're from Houston. Yeah, but it's like, why would they be paying homage to a rival city? I mean, in Texas, we're all unified. Oh, okay. Is it a rival city? Dallas and Houston?

They're just four out of eight. I mean, the Mavericks and the Rockets are rivals. Different sport. All right, fine. I think they should workshop the name. I think so, too. Bring back the Oilers. Kyle. Ariel, I'm having a hard time making sense of Dana's stance

that Armin won't get the next title shot at 155. I know that the UFC has punished fighters like this in the past, but in those cases, there were other strong title challenger options. There aren't in this case, especially with the next best contender, Oliveira, having recent losses to both Armin and Islam. Is it possible that the UFC doesn't think that Armin's injury was legitimate? Yes, I think Dana kind of made that clear. Is it possible they believe the weight cut wasn't going well

and he used the injury as an excuse to avoid the scale? I don't know if that's the case, but you could just tell by his demeanor at the post-fight press conference that he wasn't very happy with how it all panned out, which was interesting because in a previous answer, he was like, look how incredible it is. We went from a $9.5 million gate to a 10.2 after the switch. So if anything, like armin and moicano the the switcheroo actually bumped things up so why is he that mad ultimately it was probably a huge pain in the ass for everyone involved production marketing etc that was my read did you guys feel otherwise his body language and his response seemed to imply that he wasn't buying it and thus

not interested in giving him a title shot. Yeah, I had the same read. And in fact, when Armand spoke to you, he said the UFC doctors came to him and tried to encourage him to fight. They said, you'll be fine. Sleep it off. When you wake up in the morning, you'll be good.

So if the UFC doctors are relaying that information to Dana White, I'm sure he is operating under the assumption that, like, Armin could have fought and should have. And so, it's a messy situation. To, to this person's point,

I'm not sure Armin's not getting the next shot. Does it, like, have we, have we lost sight of the fact that, like, every time Dana White says something, it's not really, like, law? Like, if, if they need, if they need a title fight and Armin's the fact that every time Dana White says something, it's not really like law. If they need a title fight and Armin's the one that's available and he's the best option to face Islam and they

need him in that moment, I'm fairly confident they will call him. I'm fairly confident they won't just go, you know what, we're not going to have Islam fight at this moment that we need him because we said we wouldn't give it to Armin. Dana White's 100%, Jon Jones, then it's somewhere else in between. Oh, this person gets the title shot, then it's not this person.

I'm not reading anything into what Dana White says that night compared to what will happen if in three months they need Armin. PT seems to disagree. I just disagree with what he said about Dana. Okay. Yeah, we know. Take it to the bank when Dana says something. That's exactly how it's going to play out every time. But by the way, can I just say?

Thank you. I agree with this man. I do think it should still be Armin, but I can understand. And we also brought up on Monday, Charles was in this situation, albeit a little bit different, and he got passed over and he had to fight Armin and he lost, so them's the breaks. Mr. Clean, Ariel and the boys, it seems to

me like there is a fight that makes sense to me, but nobody is talking about it. Moikano stepped up, took the fight on short notice. In the past, the UFC have rewarded that. Armin, who I think should be given the next house shot, pulled out and looks like they want him to climb the ladder. Why not reward Moikano by giving him the fight with Armin? I don't hate that. And I'm going to be honest, I have not heard anyone mention that, including us. I'm sure Moikano would love a fight against such a high-ranked fighter and Armin would probably view it as easy money. What do you guys think? I love it, but can I just say, can you please just give us Moikano versus

Paddy at this point? Is there any reason not to do this fight? No, that's the fight. Come on. Also, if you're Moikano, I don't want Armin to be my fight right after Islam. That feels like a path to never fighting for a title again.

So, Paddy seems like the right opponent for both sides. Mr. Clean again, Ariel, on a scale of 1 to 10, how scared are you about this Chiefs game in comparison to taking on either of the teams you might meet in the Super Bowl? Ratings for all three teams, please. I was most scared of the

Ravens. Scale of 1 to 10, as far as scared, I was probably like a 9 and a half on the Ravens. I'm a nine on the Chiefs just because of history. Commanders, I'm a six. And Eagles, I'm an eight. I'm scared of everyone, obviously.

I'm not trying to, you know, but commanders are the new kid on the block. They're very much like the Bengals of a couple of years ago, you know, young-ish quarterback, great story, never to be heard from again. And then of course, you know, the Eagles are tough, Saquon, Jalen, et cetera, et cetera. They've been there before. They had their hearts ripped out. So I'd rather not play them. But honestly, we're not even thinking about any of this. Humble and hungry, one step at a time. You know what I've been listening to all morning with my kids too. I was trying to teach them about it.

I can't play it, right? What is it? One more road to cross. One more bridge to take. That's the theme. One more road to cross. Technically, we just need to get to the promised land and we'll worry about that later. And then there'll be another road to cross.

Remember Rampage came out with that song back in the day? Yes, I remember. Vividly. That was so fucking cool. Somehow, Mr. Clean got in there again. What's up, guys? Love the show. Been watching since the beginning. Thank you. Personally, when I watch the show, there's a few fighters that are must-watch interviews every time they're on.

I know Ariel doesn't like to play favorites and probably won't answer who he likes to interview the most. So for the boys in the back, what are your personal favorite fighters you look forward to seeing on the show? These are my personal favorites. This is his. Yuri, Francis, Dominic Cruz, Israel, Adesanya, Dustin Poirier.

And before anybody else Chael Patty not Patty damn it Sean O'Malley again Like a shot Like a shot Wait who did you mean to say Sugar Sean oh god Dustin Poirier is a great one

Darren Till is a great one Mike Perry Is a good one most few Yeah Chael is great Uh, Darren Till is a great one. Mike Perry is a good one. Most few. Uh, yeah. Chael is great. Uh, there's been some good Eddie Hearns in the past. DJ.

DJ is always great. That's a good one. Um. That'd be such a great connection to the camera, the lighting. No one for Rick? Arnold Allen. Arnold Allen. Arnold Allen. Classic.

Oh, happy birthday to Arnold. Yeah. Happy birthday to Arnold. Yeah. Happy birthday to Arnold. Happy birthday to Arnold. No, for me, it's the same ones that it was 10 years ago, to be honest. Rampage. DJ Rampage. It's the same guys.

It used to be DC before he turned coat. Benedict Cormier. Is he making the list? Is he lowering you down when the day comes? 1,000%. Oh, what a great shout. We're down to four. Daniel Cormier, 100%. He might be leading the whole charge.

Oh, a million percent. Alright, so two spots left. Did you pop a couple buttons? Did I not notice that? He's slowly taking it. I was going to say something, but I realized that he sees himself, so it had to be intentional, so I didn't want to call it out Are you warm in there?

It's the new diet you start burning more How much did your stomach hurt last night? At all or you were just like hungry? It was like I was a little ornery if I'm not You know if I'm being honest Poor family It was It was the mental hurdle i just kept thinking on

the ride home how am i gonna get home i i get home and i just scarf i mean i eat like a madman i'm not gonna lie and how am i not going to do that how am i gonna get past this i thought about just like walking in throwing myself down taking a going to bed. Not even talking to anyone. Hi, how's your day? Great. Bye. Hello. See you later.

You already scripted it. But then I, you know, I couldn't do that. Wouldn't be very nice. Wouldn't be very fatherly, husbandly. Dad's in a bad mood. Also, Nick Swerhun wanted to watch that. And Claire would have been like, Dad's a bit ornery, huh? Yeah, yeah yeah yeah

what's up he needs to eat something yeah so exactly what she'd say yeah and so i said listen guys we're fasting and they said who the f is we big fans of the show are you gonna cry again and uh big fan and i said look i'm doing this for you. Okay? I want to be around. Wow. Did you really say that? They're like, but dad, you just followed your will. 24 hour water bath. You want me to die?

Seriously, you didn't take any important business calls on the way home, right? When you're hangry and everything? Not that I remember. It has happened. He can be a big philosophy when he's hungry, Elani. I'm a delight when I'm hungry. You should put a do not disturb on your phone.

Ariel is fasting right now, so we all know. Did you feel like I was ornery yesterday? You've mentioned this a couple of times, that on the ride home, and now I'm wondering, damn, I hope you didn't make any executive decisions. I'm just asking you, did you no honestly no you were that's a testament to my plus to be around all the time but i could tell when you haven't eaten it's i'm trained at home for that i could tell when people's metabolism has dipped i'm like oh

shit good time to grab the snacks wow i hope tracy's listening yeah she is um the real madrid hello ariel and crew my question is what are your thoughts on mcgregor and paul brothers together on the same bus for the inauguration i don't know they were like i said it looked like they were on a tour bus touring around like some foreign country it was was kind of comical. Other than that, not much. Did the Paul brothers really gimmick Theo Vaughn's chair at the inauguration? Did you guys see that video? That's what he's claiming.

I can't tell if it's a joke or not. Also, do you know how many people were in that room? Like it was as vip as possible like i don't think the george st pierce and the john joneses of the world were even in there oh as in just the paul brothers even john the paul brothers made the round was not in the room i see what you're saying yeah i'm just saying man it's been a weird thing to watch for me like i'm obviously not american but just bizarre the whole thing to me maybe i'm by myself here very in what in what respect all of it like the clips that are coming out and the amount of people that are there um the people that are there it's it's

crazy i've never seen anything like it this is a good one uh hey ariel how funny was it watching conor mcgregor post with the Pauls while Dylan Dennis was posting on his stories like a middle schooler who just got broken up with? I missed that, but if it did happen, it sounds pretty funny. Dylan would be upset about that. No doubt. No doubt. He would be upset.

What was he really emotional about? Well, Conor's sitting there with a guy who's suing him for, you know. No, for real. What was he really emotional about? Well, Connor's sitting there with a guy who's suing him for No, for real. What was he posting? He posted, like, there was one that was just, it was like, it was a lot of, like, if you think you know your friends. I think the caption was when I had my funeral,

make sure Connor McGregor's there. Let her down one last time. By the way, it must be a mistake, because there's no way Dylan's doing any, like, sub-tweeting of Connor McGregor. Oh. Let her down one last time. By the way, it must be a mistake because there's no way Dylan's doing any, like, subtweeting of Conor McGregor. Oh, no. He was doing it. There's no chance in hell.

No, I think Rick actually had his eyes on it. He's confirming that it did happen. Well, yeah. Dylan actually said something negative about Conor. It wasn't negative. As I said, it was like a, you think, okay, so all black screen, Wow, just wow, period. That was on one of the stories. Look at Jilted X.

Then the picture of, I believe it's Tony Montana. No, Godfather. Godfather Al Pacino after looking surly because he's been double-crossed. I'm not buying this. This is a work. There's no chance in hell that he is ever going to He's sitting there with the enemy. He's sitting there with the enemy.

Are they still up or did he delete them in a panic? This is from days ago. It's not a sell-off. Former opponent. He fought him. He's suing him. Great boxing, man. It's also, if they're selling a fight like this, jovial, all posing together for a picture thing doesn't really help them either. Because they're man. It's also, if they're selling a fight, this jovial all posing together for a picture thing

doesn't really help them either. Because they're going to do it a whole like, no, I really want to beat the shit out of this guy on fight week. Posing for pictures with his ma. I wonder if they even are going to do that, if I'm being honest. I'm not buying any of it. This is from Jake. Hello, Ariel and crew.

I saw that Dakota Cheva posted on her Instagram story the other day that she still hasn't received the money from the $1 million tournament win. Do you know any details on this? And if she should have received this already, and if this is the same for the other fighters? I missed that one too. Oh, Jesus, man.

I mean, what has it been? I guess it's actually, was that Thanksgiving? Yeah, so it's almost been two months you see the way my bank account works is there's a hopefully hopefully pfl is uh just what are you what are you trying to say i'm just saying that you know like maybe there's there's maybe there's some things you know on the on the transactional side that like are mucking it up. Let's not automatically jump to she's not going to be. Look, to their credit, no one has ever accused them of not.

Yeah, nobody said that to this point. Matt Moe. Matt Moe always loves to get the dirt. And so here he is again. What's up, Ariel? On the A8 show post-credits, it has Rick listed as an executive producer and GC as a producer. My question is, what responsibilities does Rick have in the uncrowned era now that he has less of these social media obligations that make him an executive producer rather than a regular producer? That's a great question.

Yeah. This is actually a fantastic question. Absolutely nothing. Honestly. Not everything. I don't even know what I do back here Yeah we've been meaning to talk to you about that Those credits I think it was Jordan who was making them

And he was just like what do you guys want your titles to be And Rick said exec producer Yeah actually he slammed his fist Like really aggressively on the desk He was like executive producer And don't ask me again Jordan put producer and I slammed my fist and said executive, actually. Oh, you forgot one word there.

E-X-E. Yeah. We were like, okay, Rick. All right, man. Give me a fucking coffee. No, Rick is the barrier of entry to everything. The keystone. We're all just hidden back here.

We don't have to deal with anything. Rick deals with all the bullshit The real answer is I don't do a damn thing He's so humble He does do so much He's like I'll handle it Sounds good man Perfect

And then you hit up Pizzi Pizzi where you at? Just having lunch at the local pub Everything okay there guys? No I will say whenever I hit up up Pete Z, Pete Z snaps to attention. Pete Z is like the best soldier we've got. Because anytime you say something, Pete Z is like, what can I do? What can I do?

What can I do? He's ready. Except for that one time, I was like, you know, you don't have to do a thing. And then he tricked us. Oh, yeah. Can I break the fourth wall here? Go ahead. Go ahead.

The other day, I pizzi in the show something related to what was going on in the show and he was like i gotta admit to you mate like i'm not really paying attention to this show right now i have an article i have to write like we've put the fear of god in him with writing these articles frank did you think for one second as that was coming out of your mouth maybe i shouldn't say this about no it's fine no listen we can look at the screen where you thought to yourself okay you know pizzi works uh for us and off the record with frank he's great and sign him up for your pallbearer duties as well please please nothing's off the record for frank but then if you say his

last name one time it's like dude dude what are you doing man as if we couldn't just uh just look it up yeah i think in like three months, I'm going to have Jordan update that, maybe throw a senior on and no one will notice. And then I can update my LinkedIn and be like, yeah, I got promoted. I was just flying up the ladder back at Uncrowned. I actually think at the end of the credits,

we should have Ariel's list of people that are going to be his pallbearers and just keep it up there. I doubt that, dude. At the last slide, Ariel's fault you should just start sneaking in random shit to see if people pick up on it by the way i'd like to uh make an announcement i'm removing james dolan from the list it just occurred to me i'd love to be uh a part of that crew that gets like the courtside tickets like yeah there's no chance that i'm getting it i mean

i don't get them now but i would love to be in so he'll let you down for turn and then at your funeral for now though he's in my good graces. So I would... We also need reserves for people that you're going to outlive. I'm buying those, PT, okay? I don't know if you know this, but I know you like to get freebies, but I...

Are you one of those rich guys with one of them nutritionists? Yeah. Hey, Evan asks, Ariel, are you surprised to see so many combat sports fighters shout show out for trump's inauguration when did we become this type of show guys i don't know people are acting shocked i mean it's pretty big news i mean half the roster is fucking there like i mean i'm like that i'm like why why is john cabner here i mean why is he over there well well this this gentleman is asking people are acting shocked that GSPA,

Proud Canadian, was there, but I don't see how anyone at this point can be surprised that people who choose a profession where they get brain damage on a regular basis would have terrible ideologies and philosophies. Wow, this feels like editorializing here. These are people who suckle at Dana White's multimillionaire TV.

There's a lot of suckling going on during this inauguration as far as I could see as well. The best part about this is his follow-up question. I don't even know if there was a question in there. Yeah, what was the question?

Also, where do you think your invitation to the inauguration ended up? That is a good question. That is a good question. If you got an invitation, would you go? Just for the spectacle of it all? It takes a lot for me to leave the house.

Nobody's passing. Why are you dealing with that mood? Can I tell you, I was asked to attend BKFC this weekend. Told him no. Told us no. I was willing to pay for your train ticket and everything. Thank you for that. I was asked to attend Nottingham Forest versus

Man City in March. Said no. You know, we're still weighing our options regarding February 22nd. I am waiting for the meeting. It's going to be myself, Turkey Alshake,

Donald Trump, and Dana White. That's the big one. The power players in combat sports in one room. What's the topic of the meeting going to be? We are going to mend many fences Is Rogan there? He can moderate I feel like Rogan's got to be there Inauguration 2024

What happened to Strikeforce? Why Strikeforce? Is Scott Coker involved too? I think he means affliction You're Donald Trump's Strikeforce Yes Why Strikeforce? Is Scott Coker involved too? I think he means Affliction Your Donald Trump Strikeforce interviews Affliction Affliction, Strikeforce 2025 Inauguration

My brother was supposed to be at the inauguration What happened? He got booted because they moved it inside He got bumped for Little Inclement Easy X 64

So how could I be upset How could I be upset If your brother got booted What do you mean He's saying He was Your brother Who deserves to be there

Was booted How could Ariel be Right That I didn't invite Exactly There you go This is an incredible question Because I was actually

Going to make a joke about this I swear to God Okay but what was The actual question I think he was just Trying to editorialize It's fine listen we we welcome we welcome all opinions here careful uh why careful frank's a raging maga is and and and jordan's uh a left uh left what do you call it woke lib uh yes jordan runs libs of tikt TikTok or whatever that page is

No that's run by right way You got it wrong Jordan runs the Lincoln Project Is that what it is? Jordan's nodding He's reading the Huffington Post right now And he's reading Project 2025 right now That's right

How does Jordan result being such a massive Aaron Rodgers fan and being a snowflake? You know, sometimes you don't... I tried to stop short of calling him that. Sometimes you don't meet your heroes,

you know? Yeah. By the way, this is a great question. Juan Sanchez, hello Ariel and crew. May I suggest that if you guys ever start

a video series of behind the scenes material, you call it breaking the fourth wall. It seems to be a popular phrase. It is true. We do overuse that way too much.

We overuse this shit. Frank just said it like two seconds ago. Who the fuck is we? Yeah. Among the uncrowned team, it would be very fitting. Love all the content every week. P.S. Fingers crossed for a UFC Chicago event this year.

Would the team consider traveling? Yeah, we've got like eight trips lined up. Chances of us going to a single one, very high. We're going to one this year. Would the team consider traveling? Yeah, we've got like eight trips lined up. Chances of us going to a single one? Very high. We're going to one this weekend. I'm going to UFC London. I'm going to UFC Spain. I'm going to UFC Prague. I'm going to Ben Eubank. We'll be at WrestleMania.

Throw on UFC Chicago on the list. Where else? I'm not throwing out those flimsy like I really am trying to go to Ben Eubank. That's the one. The one that I really am trying to go to ben eubank that's the one the one that i actually am trying to go to is ufc london well uh steven asks quit the foreplay with the boys are you guys coming to london i've just bought my tickets i'm i'm hoping i'm here me too but not for ufc can i just say i totally botched. I said quit the foreplay with the boys.

Yeah. He actually wrote quit with the foreplay boys. Are you kidding? I thought you said that right. You said quit the foreplay with the boys. Yes. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

You know, we are still coworkers. Who's HR? Is that Rick as well? Yeah No no no I actually said I was starting HR yesterday I've already got a meeting set up I've already got a meeting set up with Frank It's no longer on air Jordan by the way

It's woke Jordan If we had a camera rolling back here At all times I mean we would capture some gold This morning we would have captured some gold What happened? This is what somebody's asking Break the fourth wall

They want this series Is there a fourth wall? There are no walls Like we're speaking to the audience There's windows No we're not speaking to the audience There's actually four walls here but it doesn't close in So there's nothing to break down in this particular studio

How about this one guys Alec is asking Ariel do you ever swerve and bend that corner Whoa nothing to break down in this particular studio how about this one guys uh alec is asking ariel do you ever swerve and bend that corner whoa do you the obvious answer this is important i gotta say it's not a bad show i mean like it's catchy what is it it's the uh liangelo ball song no he actually came out um during the lions game Wow. If it was an NFL player. He's like a young Woodbridge. Wayne Bridge.

Wayne Bridge. A very young. He's like a very young Wayne Bridge. Honestly, though, actually, LiAngelo for misfits. LiAngelo versus KSI. Musicians, like athletes. Why not? We are one step away from LiAngelo ball fighting misfits.

You're 100% right. Didn't mean to disrespect the legend there. Why didn't you just fight Till? Why didn't K are one step away from LiAngelo Ball fighting misfits. It makes sense. You're 100% right. Didn't mean to disrespect the legend. Why didn't you just fight Till? Why didn't Cassidy just fight Till? Nah. They're not good. LiAngelo Ball. Why not? But I would love to see it. Woodbridge is a thing. Mark. Hi guys. Woodbridge. Before Christmas Ariel was saying that he was feeling bad after his

new schedule and one day he couldn't stop himself from eating a full tub of ice cream. Hence the fasting. Yeah. I don't know why I feel so unhealthy. This reminded me of one of my fondest memories of school when the tubs of Ben and Jerry's would be half price in Tesco and I would happily eat a full one for my lunch.

Other classic lunches were buy a full baguette and a full pack of salami and have that for lunch. My question is, do you have any weird school lunch memories or even any weird things you used to eat as a kid also massive shout out to josh barnett and his primordial primordial primordial t-shirt unreal irish metal band pizza you familiar no this is the question i asked you don't know oh you look like i'm not paying attention um another reminder pizza wasn't paying attention. It used to drive me crazy.

I think I mentioned my first grade. I had a surprise party in the first grade. My parents took me and my friends to the Montreal Forum to watch Bret Hart versus Mr. Perfect. Not in the main event, but it was a match on their forget because it ended in a draw. It was an unbelievable back and forth

slobber knocker. And then there's Bret Hart crawling on top of Mr. Perfect. May he rest in peace. One, two. And then they said, ding, ding, ding, time limit. I was like, oh my God, how could they have done this? Anyway, my mom used to do this thing where she would, she would make hot dogs,

but she would wrap them up in pita bread. And for this dinner, she broke out the damn pita bread with the hot dogs. And I was so mad. I was like, why can't we just have normal buns? Why can't we just be normal? You know, she was fresh off the, you know, she was fresh off the boat. She just, you know, these were the things. I used to get sambusek bejimne for lunch in the fifth grade. I would do anything to have that now. I would do anything. I would walk a

thousand miles in this freezing cold weather to have a sambousek bejimne. She would send me manoushe bezatar. You know what these things are, guys? These are incredible. Stuffed eggplant, right? Middle Eastern delights. No, that's koushomershi. Anyway, but when you're in fifth grade, 10 years old,

and everyone has like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, you just want to be like them. You know? It's one of those things. And they just send us a skill with like a bag full of boiled spuds. You know what I mean? Just get stuck in the boiling spuds. Just tear it off.

Just tear it off. Yeah. This is from Fergus. Hey, Ariel and the boys, can we get an update on the Netflix Raw episodes? Have you guys been watching and what's been happening? I don't follow wrestling closely, so I get my updates usually from you guys. You guys make me laugh

every week, especially the chuckles of fellow Irishman Pizzi. Have you guys been keeping up? I haven't checked in again. Nope. Listen, there's no giving back to a hand. I'll tell you that much. If they start doing a bit of that shit, I'll be all in. I love that. I'm back in if you're back in on the hand birth.

I've been trying to, because I was like, oh, yeah, you got to keep your fingers in all these pies. We cover it all now. And I'm sticking on Tuesday morning. And I tell you what. Keep your fingers in pies? That's an expression. Is that the Irish version of, like of keep the finger on the pulse? Yeah. What is the

finger in pies thing? You're the one that just said it. Don't you put the finger in the pie to check if it's ready? Who does that? Did you just say that or did you say fingers on the pulse? I think I just made that up. No, I said pies. Rick has never baked in his life.

I think I was trying to say... Did Rick just say... Keep as many plates spinning. Stick your finger in a hot pie to see if it's ready. This explains why he has band-aids on his finger. Dirty ass finger too. We do have more here. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. Thomas. All right, lads. Just to give a UK perspective on the UK reaction to Wayne Bridge and KSI, it has been a stain on KSI rather than Bridge. Bridge has come across

as having self-respect and not being dragged into that circus. Bridge is well-known over here and is a nice guy so extremely weird on KSI's part.

Peace and love to you all. I love everything you all do. Thank you for that, Thomas. Nobi. Hello, Ariel and crew. Last week, I proposed to my girlfriend and she said yes.

Mazel Tov. I decided to pop the question outside the place where her father and late mother got married. Would you be willing to share your engagement story? I think I've told it before. Yeah, you did. What was it, Frank? You made a special trip with a friend to show up at her apartment? No, you guys were living together.

You went somewhere for work then it was surprise you all right you know what it's not bad it's actually not bad anime oh wow um i told her that i was going to dallas to cover hdnet fights 2 in dallas this is in 2008 in reality hdnet fights 2 was happening the following week. Of course, she didn't know the difference. I flew to Montreal. I went to dinner with her parents. I asked for their permission, her hand in marriage. And then I took the 6 a.m. back the next day, 24 hours, and set up my digital camera. We were living on 94th and 3rd, apartment 2716. And I went up there, set up the digital camera over my jacket.

It was December or November, November or December. I think it was December. And I rang the doorbell, knocked, went down on the knee, presented the ring, and that was it. When I was eating dinner with her parents having sushi, we talked a lot about politics and group chats and things like that. And I said, look, I want to keep it clean, all right? Like, don't drag me into your mess. And here we are. Yeah.

They didn't stick to their word. Chris, are there any updates on Jones and Aspinall? When does that fight look like it's happening no unfortunately not another one from chris oh i thought i just got a text from one of the family members hey ariel quick question when is international fight week this year june or july i think it's uh late june again i think i think and also is there a headliner you have heard possibly jones aspinallall. I have not heard. I mean, same guy asking back to back. Hey, Arlen, the best crew on YouTube.

Thank you. This is from Cape Town Matt. I'm a photographer from Cape Town, South Africa, and I listen to you guys whilst editing. So grateful for the new format five days a week. Gone are the days of me having to find something on the JRE to listen to after I finished the old Monday and Wednesday episodes.

Question for GC. Do you ever feel down when Ariel mentions the newer fans? Thanks for all the entertainment and best of luck with the gout, New York Rick. No. I don't know why you would. No, I am a newer fan. Yeah, it's not a shot.

No, it's just the fact of the matter. I did fall down why you would. Nah, I am a newer fan. Yeah, it's not a shot. Nah, it's just the fact of the matter. I did fall down a rabbit hole. UFC posted like this two-hour super compilation, and it was called, I think, When Fighters Hated Each Other, and it went back through all these amazing rivalries, and it was like the buildup, and then the fight itself,

and then the post-fight. It was good. It was good stuff. I watched the entire two hours. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. the fight itself and then the post fight it was good it was good stuff i watched the entire two hours really yeah yeah wow tito ortiz versus ken shamrock tito ortiz oh yeah that was incredible it was they fought three times yeah mcgregor was on there um who else was on there ronda and misha tate i believe was on there there were some good ones there were some good ones though and ufc did really well For free on their YouTube channel too

They've been upping their YouTube Yeah Yeah I mean I love the I love the old stuff I wish I was I wish I was a An active fan When it was all going down

This is from Adub Hi Ariel Does Joe Rogan attend The Fight Week fighter meetings Or just Shows up Friday night For ceremonial weigh in He

He doesn't attend the fighter meetings. Why? I don't know. He's got a great... He just shows up for the pay-per-view. He does what he wants. Yeah. It's freaking Joe Rogan. Yes?

Must be nice. Must be nice. That's a drop. Yeah, let's drop that drop. Let's get rid of that. I guess that Frank is... Oh, that's a drop, Frank? Yeah, we Yeah let's drop that drop Oh that's a drop Frank Yeah we're gonna drop that drop No more done The way that that made that seem was me

And Rick were back here with like shit Shit eating grins like looking at each other And being like okay on the count of three we're gonna say must be nice That's exactly how it came up That's actually what happened And then I was thinking like is there some sort of shot here? Is there an implication? I was saying that about Joe Rogan?

Yeah. No, about me. I don't know. Wow. Speaking of shots and implications, I just want to read this. The idiom may have come from the idea of tasting every pie

or being involved in making them. The precise origin of this metaphor, which presumably alludes to either tasting every pie or being involved in their conco The precise origin of this metaphor, which presumably alludes to either tasting every pie or being involved in their concoction, has been lost. So just want to correct the record as everybody was, you know, getting all happy and laughing. They would stick the finger in the pie to

taste them to check if they were ready. I think we're going to drop that one. But the pies in the sense, what I was talking about was like boxing is one pie. Yeah, it's a metaphor. We know you're not talking about literal pies. I'm just saying that that's where the phrase comes from. As I suggested and then everybody just raucously laughed about it.

They don't call you executive producers for nothing. These new fans, they don't understand the pie reference. I was thinking you were talking about real pies, BT. I was a big pie guy. I was offered some pie last night and I said, no thank you. It was blueberry. I thought you were going to last night and I said no thank you. Well gone. It was blueberry. I thought you were going to say something completely different.

That's a great part. I'm happy. Patrick, favorite segment of the week. Ariel, I saw an ex that Nina Drama gave you a shout out for the Armin interview. Any chance of getting her on the show? I know it's a long shot, but I'm a fan of her content for the most part and the fact that she was getting death threats is deeply disturbing. Yes, I agree

with that. I would have no problem having her on the show. Let's have everyone on the show. Like I said, 2025, we're all about peace and love, peace and love. I don't know if she would come on. Do you guys want Nina Drama on the program? She was my pick for creator of the year.

She won. What do you mean your pick? Oh, when you... I called that one, from the heavens. Should we do a face-off? A virtual face-off? Between... Nina Drama and MMA Guru.

Yeah, sign me up. What did that be? Oh, yeah, there was beef. Sign me up. Yeah, big beef. Yeah, sign me up. I don't know if you're going to get the latter. Or the former, huh?

Are you kidding? He'd come running. He's going to make an hour and a half video just based on on me mentioning his name here a breakdown with a telestrator and all i would do it i would do it i mean that'd be big business um i don't know what it would be but it would be uh high drama i'm kidding of course peace and love peace and love um please don't send me any any um anything to sign past august uh the 26 I think it was, or maybe October. But I think she does a great job.

And I met her at the MMA awards, and she was very, very nice. And then I said, does your boss know about these niceties, these compliments that you're paying me? I didn't say that. She was very nice. We took a picture together. It was great. I was hoping she would post the picture first so then I could post it too But I didn't want to be the first one to post it Waiting for you to talk shit

You didn't want a fanboy He asked me for a picture Yeah I didn't want to do that You know what I mean She comes in the studio You guys take a picture together That'd be nice Did you get the picture too?

For sure We could do it We could do it Would you get the picture too? For sure We could do it with the With the The Polaroid For sure Yeah Maybe we can make it happen Okay

YFG94 What's up gang? Would you guys Rather take one uppercut From a prime Mike Tyson Or one minute of wrestling From Hamza Chemaev One minute wrestling

Rain damage It's like the easiest one ever Get the shit out of you for a minute You guys are taking the Hamza Yeah 100,000% Prime Mike Tyson uppercut is awful. I'm not taking a clean shot on Mike Tyson.

That could actually kill me. Forget Prime. Right now, if Mike Tyson hit me with a clean uppercut, I'm going to outer space, so I'm going to pass on that. The broken jaw thing, though. Is Hamza just wrestling you, or is he going for submissions, too? It says wrestling. Even if he's submitting you, submissions are fine.

Go for it. Ask Robert Whitaker that. Is he going full force? Of course he's going I'm tapping out instantaneously I'm tapping before he even Shoots the double We need more speculation Can you tap?

It's 100% the takedown As much as the takedown will suck I mean An uppercut from Mike Tyson Might actually take your head off your 100% the takedown. As much as the takedown will suck, I mean, an uppercut from Mike Tyson in his prime might actually take your head off your neck. Yeah. Good kidding. Legit.

Greetings, Ireland crew. Any chance of the Arnold versus Aljo fight being added to the London card? Card's looking flat at the minute and could do with a couple big fights. Haven't heard that. Aljo didn't love Andrew Feldman's Hey Arnold edit. No, was it Aljo?

No, Arnold didn't like it, right? I think it was Arnold. Jordan, Ariel, we saw the pic of you sweaty and nervous after the Bills game, but during the game, do you put your phone away and focus or talk only to your kids or specific Bills fans? So I'll tell you this. Mark Henry, famed coach, and his son Pino are hardcore Bills fans,

and we have a Bills group chat. I also will talk to a couple other people. You know, I may have some celebrity fans. I have some high school friends, my friend Phil Dirksen, Jason Tackman. Not much in our group chat during the Bills games because I'm assuming everyone's just locked in. There were a couple of texts,

but for the most part, I'm not like scrolling through Twitter and things like that. I try to keep it pretty quiet. It's very tense though. The texts are tense. Oh, PT and I text a lot. PT and I text a lot, right?

Yeah, Bill's games, you, every other game, Jordan. Jordan is my NFL guy. Especially when we used to, obviously, he's on vacation again this week. But we used to organize the show on Thursday nights. You're just as disappointed as I am, by the way. Yeah. That was one of my favorite things to do. And on Thursday nights. You're just as disappointed as I am, by the way. Yeah. That was one of my favorite things to do, and permanently on vacation, woke Jordan.

What can you say? Wow, this is amazing. This is incredible. We have some super chats, by the way. I want to give a shout out to the super chat crew. Oh, there's a lot. This is from LazyBed. Thanks for breaking the fourth wall, Young Woodbridge.

Who's Young Woodbridge? I accidentally called Waynebridge that. Wow, that was up to date. That was quick. Do we have our first guest or not yet? I can't wait to stop talking to us.

Look at this. No, I just noticed the time. This first hour and a half has flown by. Since there's no show on Sunday, when do we have shows on Sunday? Maybe the post show? Anyway, how about bringing back a favorite of the channel

to create Frank and Luciana? That would be a great show. I'd watch the shit out of that. Oh, my God. Also, GFL draft watch along on Friday No GFL having a mare Let's be honest

Having a fucking mare Top three countries to travel For all of you I don't know if we'll get to all of that Jake But we can get to it later United States of America USA, Canada and Ireland I mean what what more?

Thank you. What more? There's a lot of super chats here. So let me get to the rest of them back into the program. For now, we put a pin. 29, not bad. Not bad. Like I said, old school.

Love it. Let's get to our first guest of the day. He is headlining Knucklemania 5. Yes, 5 this Saturday. They're expecting a sellout wells fargo center philadelphia what a weekend for philadelphia sports you got the eagles against the commanders on sunday you got knucklemania you got bkfc making its debut at the wells fargo they're saying 17 18 000 or so fans expected on saturday live on the, the main event is a juicy one. It's Eddie Alvarez, the

underground king, the pride of Philadelphia going up against the hard-hitting, undefeated under the BKFC banner. The great Jeremy Stephens, 2-0 in BKFC. He'll be going up against Eddie Alvarez and he is kind enough to be joining us right here and now. There he is.

Hey, Jeremy, how are you? Fantastic. How's it going, Errol? It's going great. This is big-time stuff. Massive main event for you against Eddie Alvarez in Philly. Can I just ask, how cold is it in Philly right now? And I know you're a West Coast, I know you're originally from Iowa, West Coast guy. Is the body used to this type of weather? Yeah, I left my feelings back home with the wife and kids, brother. We're here for purpose. I don't really get into my feelings, man. I'm embracing this type of weather and it feels like home. Okay, I love it. What was your reaction when you got this offer to fight, hey, you're really living in my dream, I actually pushed for this fight.

They were wanting something different. I was really advocating for myself to go through with this fight. To come here into hostile territory out here in Philadelphia, it's kind of like a dream come true. It definitely inspired me to come out here and do something that most people really wouldn't. When you say that he was living in your dream, what do you mean by that? I'm the one who made this happen.

I've been fighting my ass off. I wanted a good fight, a big fight, a big name, and to go out there and prove myself. We were supposed to fight sometime around December. That never happened, and they advocated to come out here in Philly. So I feel like I'm the one who actually pushed for this fight. You know, I made it happen. You know, I took a pay cut fighting the last opponent to prove to myself, you know, I wanted some big fights and big scraps. And it was a good opportunity. I'm glad I did it. And here we are in a main event in a big big fight one of the biggest yet to date for bkfc so this is going to be your third fight under the bkfc banner uh so far liking it more than you uh had anticipated

what are your thoughts on the experience coming from mma yeah yeah to be honest you know i was uh i kind of looked down on it i was like you, you know what? I really like this MMA stuff. I that's how i grew up in iowa you know we're we're really well known for for getting in some street fights so uh to kind of come back to it full circle with having the experience of mma i've been getting into the boxing over the past few years which has kind of uh been a resurgence for my career to uh learn boxing i'm actually falling in love with the boxing process sp, sparring pro boxers and really good boxers that are challenging me and forcing me to level up. And to be in this bare knuckle game, it's definitely primal. It's a whole new different feeling of adrenaline and primal that

I haven't felt. And I just, I truly, genuinely love it. I feel like bare knuckle was, you know, built for me. Wow. And so when you say that you're, you know, you're, you're, you're training with guys and things like that, is it to the point where you're like, I don't want to do MMA ever again? You like this so much because I think you're, you're a part of GFL as well, right? That's correct. Yeah. Okay. So you were going to try to do both. Yeah. I'm a prize fighter at the end of the day arrow you know i put food on the table with these hands you know since i've been 16 years old uh 18 you know

i had like some some little jobs here and there and then once i got into professional fighting uh the clothes on my back the cleats on my uh my daughters you know uh to the house that i have and is it's everything is uh through fighting through fighting, you know, through, through prize fighting. I love the, I love the BKFC. It's a, it's a, it's a very, it's a whole different way of being, you know, like not everybody's built for that. You know, I feel like it's a true fighter sport and, uh, there's some opportunity out there in MMA as well. You know, I think, uh, putting some space between the MMA is, uh, it's been a good thing, but I've been really falling in love. Like I said, with the boxing process, uh, becoming one of the best, uh, working on becoming one of the best boxers and bare knuckle fighters has been, uh,

my goal. And it's, uh, it's right up with my purpose, my intentions. And, uh, I love it. You know, God's really blessed me with heavy hands and, uh, I love learning the boxing, you know, it's, it's, it's rejuvenated my, my whole process. So, so you guys have had some, some interesting face-offs. They took you guys to the Rocky Steps and all that stuff. But the one at the press conference, I thought was, was supremely interesting. We're looking at the photos here. These are great iconic photos. The one at the press conference and they, they, they, they had the sound up. We could hear you guys talking to each other. And, and Eddie said to to you here it is eddie's saying to you you've never been a

champion you'll never beat a champion and it got pretty spicy there what was your takeaway from this just riling them up getting the reactions out of it you know champion is not a belt it's a mindset and it's in the heart you know i've I've beaten former champions, this and that. You know, words are words. But when we get in there and get in there, he's going to find out what type of champion I truly am. And, you know, the eyes, Chico, they never lie. They never lie, bro. What did you see when you looked into his eyes?

I just see a guy who's just unprepared, you know, hasn't been training. You know, he got his face caved in the last time, you know, when he quit on the stool. You know, there's a difference between a man who's hungry and a man who's starving. I'm the guy who's starving. You know, I wanted this opportunity and I get it in a main event here in his hometown. I know people aren't really here for me. I get a chance to be the heel. I embrace this. My whole life, I've been counted out, underdog, life with UFC, PFL. I feel like everything has really been built for this moment. It's God's timing. You have to trust it. And I really feel like this is my time and this is my sport. And I'm going to take everything from him right here

in his hometown. Ruthless. I love it. A bit of a silly question because I know the next one is always the biggest one, but considering the venue, considering the crowd, considering who he is, considering you're the guy that, let's be honest, 95% of that arena on Saturday is probably not going to be rooting

for you and you could go in there and ruin all their plans. Does this feel like the biggest moment of your career? Yes, I do, Errol. Yeah, it's always the next one, but this is the biggest one. Here I am at this point in my career, this day and age, I'm not showing any signs of slowing down, continuing to get better. People talk about my losses, but I put myself back together a thousand times and continue to win, continue go out there and have uh pure dominant performances and look good doing it you know you don't see any uh slow in my step and uh you don't see me slowing down so constantly evolving constantly trying to put myself out there for for challenges and you know i welcome this type of shit you know i've

been i've been counted out and doubted my whole life. When I went to new schools and I always had to wrestle off or compete for a position on the baseball field and this and that, I was always rooted against because I was always going to a different school. I didn't have that many friends. I always believed in being my own cheerleader, my own positive self-talk. All I needed was just my faith in God and, and, uh, just the ones that, that are around me and in my life, they, they, they know what I'm really capable of. But regardless of all that, like, I love being put in these moments. I love being doubted. I love being counted out. I love being like, Oh, who the fuck's that guy? This and that, you know, I, I use it as fuel, you know, I definitely use it as jet fuel and, and, you know, no pressure is on

me. You know, I'm coming in here to be hated. I fucking love it. You know, you ever watched, fuel you know i definitely use it as jet fuel and and you know no pressure is on me you know i'm coming in here to be hated i fucking love it you know you ever watched uh the vince mcmahon story about being the heel you know you get paid more doing that type of shit you know remember bizbink back in the day i remember seeing him in like la and it was like boo boo i happen to look over he's just fingering the whole crowd and uh know, he's one of the higher paid guys and he went out there and he did his thing. So I enjoy this type of, uh, this type of moment. It's interesting. Cause we saw that mentality on display at the press conference. And I saw a clip, um, with Eddie afterwards saying he was taken aback by the way you were acting at the press conference. He thought you'd come in respectful and all that stuff. And, and, uh, he said his

quote was that you threw him for a loop because of the things you were saying about Philly, about him. And so it sounds like, you know, this has been the mindset from the beginning. You are going to try to piss him off. You are going to try to get under his skin. Do you, do you feel like you have been successful in doing that? I'm not trying to do anything. You know, I just, I stated a lot of facts, you know, there's, there's, uh, you know, uh, Philly, you know, they i stated a lot of facts you know there's there's uh you know uh philly you know they're they're always blowing it you know they lost to kc you know uh we got andy reed now you know this it's just uh it's just a history with them you know i didn't say anything that wasn't really out of line i'm not making up bullshit it's a lot of facts going on so if it

riles up some feelings you know uh read the the book the four agreements don't take it personal by the way are you a chiefs fan yeah yeah i'm from I'm from Iowa. We don't, we don't have a team, bro. We're such a small, small place down there in Iowa. So I always went down as a young man, always went to Chiefs games back when Dante Hall was, you know, running him back, Priest Holmes in the building. And, you know, andy reed and and we're about to do a three-peat jerry you know you're talking to a lifelong bills fan right here you know that right i had i know this i don't know if i would have had you on on this wednesday i had no idea this is crazy you can't talk that shit come on you guys have won enough you know they're all right

you know i got a good friend deon dockins you know he's a homeboy of mine. That's your friend? The snowman? Snowman, yes, sir. How do you know him? I met him through a friend out in Vegas through Zach Vito. We met at a bachelor party down in Miami. One of the coolest guys that I've met, man. Just a super professional, super genuine, fun

guy. He's competitive and he is as you see him on TV. He's awesome, man man i can't say enough about that dude so don't you want him to win you guys have won another your boy he's your friend you don't have friends on the chiefs hey if they if they go and win man you know uh hey hey salute you know uh props to him you know like uh i'm always supporting friends and teammates but i gotta go with the chiefs you know i've always been a big fan of the Chiefs since I was a young man. And, you know, I actually, you know, when Andy Reid was on the Eagles,

he was just such a great coach growing up. You always heard just amazing things about him. And you don't really hear too many things like that. And just to see what he's done, he's coming over to the Kansas City and what he's continued to do, Just a huge fan of Andy Reid. All right. Well, we'll put that aside because I do like you, but I don't like your allegiances at the moment.

Hey, this is what I'm going to be doing all week, bro. Yeah, you're pissing everyone off. Breaking heart. That's right. Call me HBK, Heartbreak Kid. I love it. Are you a pro wrestling fan from back in the day? Yeah, I grew up watching wrestling, my favorite.

Can you guess them? I guess it's HBK. Nope. Give you one more guess. Oh, man. A wild, exciting, crazy, energetic dude. Was it Brian Pillman? Ultimate Warrior, big dog.

Ultimate Warrior. That's a good one. I hated the Ultimate Warrior. I thought the whole gimmick was just too much. It was a lot of yelling and screaming and face pain. It was too much for me. I was a Bret Hart guy. Yeah. Ultimate Warrior is wild. He couldn't wrestle for shit, but he'd come out

explosive, just light up the stage, and he was out. So this is good. I like this. You're playing the heel. You're getting people riled up. You're getting people upset. Part of the motivation, is it to retire Eddie Alvarez? Do you want to be the one to retire the Underground King, one of the all-time greats in the history of the motivation, is it to retire Eddie Alvarez? Do you want to be the one to retire the underground king, one of the all-time greats in the history of the sport of MMA? I really don't give a fuck about him, bro. That's not even none of my worries. I'm focused on me being the best, absolute, brutal, vicious, bare-knuckle, violent fighter to date.

I'm truly that guy. I don't focus on the opponent. I literally just focus what's in my controlled variables and i just stay clear champion mindset solid up here bro i'm only worried about me doing me and if i go out there and do my absolute best and and do what i was born to do you know like you've seen the highlight brother do you think he is looking past you do you think he looks down on you when he talks about you've never been a champion and the way he's speaking to you do you feel like he thinks that he is above you that his career his resume is above yours again i don't care what he thinks

man i just i'm doing me you know i'm having fun i ain't playing no part this is truly just me i'm worried about me going out there and just smashing the opponent brother i'm looking to inflict a a lot of pain and and do what i was born to do you know i've broken two men inside the uh that squared circle you know i i broke uh jimmy rivera and i broke bobby taylor you know a lot of people talk about the decision win, but you know, he took a knee, uh, those last few seconds, you know, he just, he was enduring a lot of punishment. Uh, you know, the, the opponent, the last time he had his face caved in, I orbital broken. So, uh, I'm worried about going in there and flicking a lot of pain, bro. And, and bringing flashbacks of that, that type of, uh, memory. So I'm just worried about me doing me. If I just stay focused on me, it's going to be a great night

for me, brother. You said you're no stranger to street fights back in the day. Can you give us a good street fight story from the Iowa days? Who tried to jump you and then you took out 10 guys as they all tried to give us an old school, little heathen street fight story? All right. One time

I was at a spot called big dog billiards and um you know this this one guy you know i was talking on the phone one night and it was uh with a girl and she's like oh so and so and he used to go to my high school is here and he was like talking shit in the background and he gets on the phone he's kind of yapping his chops you know saying this and that i was like hey bro i don't talk shit you know i'll see you when i see you i seen this guy like a year later i was at this big dog billiards and my buddies they go walking off in the corner and i was paying to get the get the balls to go shoot some pool and uh i seen the guy and i said hey and he's like oh he got all scared right and as his boys were there like they had like probably about 14 dudes with

him but he was walking with this other cat and i was like hey what's up motherfucker like let's go outside and my buddies they had walked you know out to the to the side to go to go over to the pool station where we were going to go so i started walking out with these guys well my friends happened to see me and you know all these guys are like going out so we get outside and like i'm like you know kind of getting at it with this so we get outside and like i'm like you know kind of getting at it with this guy and the owner comes out and goes hey man you guys don't do that shit here if you guys go around the corner it's whatever but if you guys start fighting we're gonna call the cops and my buddy's like come come flying out the door you know they're like hey

what's up what's up so i'm like hey let's let's go around the corner let's let's go fight so we go around the corner and the the kid you know he he didn't want nothing to do with me but his buddy you know that was there he was getting like all excited he's like all right i'll fight you i'll fight you so uh we get into a scrap bro and uh you know i knocked out his tooth oh and and you know the first couple exchanges and he's like covering his mouth he's like oh and i'm like yeah you know i'm pumped up at this point i'm like yeah what's up motherfucker like yeah yeah and his boy uh another friend oh by the way that wasn't the guy that i was supposed to fight he wanted nothing to do with me so i ended up knocking

his friend's tooth out right and uh so he's all hurt he's like oh you know like i'm good i'm good so i'm like i'm pumped at this point like just kind of flexing egos kicking up and his boy was like ripping off his shirt like a completely different dude than the dude i'm supposed to fight like now this is another friend so i'm like you want some too like debo like you want some too yo old man and uh dude we get into an exchange and then boom knock out this motherfuckers too and then like i'm just going nuts and you know i only got like four homeboys with me and it's me so it's like five and there's like 15 dudes but i i'm i'm with this this one cat he's a bulldog from fresno he's got a big ass tech you know he's a mexican dude he's got this aztec like uh tattoo he looks like a scary dude and you know he's like hey man if you guys jump in i'm gonna

pop the trunk and start popping fucking caps at all you guys. So everybody was like, all right, one on one. So there I was, dude, and one night knocked out two teeth. I was like 18 at the time. And like all my buddies, they're a little bit older. They're all like up in their 21, 22. And they took me out to the bar like and had a great night. But just to finish the story you know when i knocked out

these guys like their tooth they're all kind of quit you know i'm pumped up and i was like i looked over to the dude i was actually supposed to fight and i'm like you little fucking bitch look at you like your boys took an ass whooping for you motherfucker and i'm like you guys are friends with this cat this guy's a piece of shit you know and then we just took off went and had a good night but uh two teeth knocked out in one night, bro. Damn. I probably got some. If you look real close, man, I got scars on my knuckles from knocking teeth in from when I was a kid, bro. I used to get in fights all the time.

I was in second grade. Those knuckles have seen some things and have hit some things, too. Yeah, and they don't swell up. Told you after the Jimmy Riveraa fight there's a thing around my no swelling hands i mean god given right here bro wow how many street fights you think you got into back in the day man i've probably been in well over 30 street fights bro wow were you were you ever arrested yeah i was arrested on fight night come on act like you don't know well come on i don't mean from that i mean i remember that story that was the craziest story of all time in minnesota i mean like from the from the street

fights yeah yeah i did get arrested one time for a street fight you know i was in a in a bar and and i was 18 and got into it with these guys and yeah i definitely went to jail they actually started the fight it was funny we were just looking up for some friends me and a buddy of mine we're going to look for uh look for somebody to get out of there some dudes like over there with a couple buddies like he's arguing with his girlfriend we kind of just happened to hear a tussle and he's in like and then he's like what the fuck you guys looking at and like he brings he was yelling at his girlfriend and we're like hey dude we're just looking for somebody and he comes up and he kind of like starts pushing me putting his hand on my chest and next thing you know bro i just started clocking him because you know at that point you know i'm like dude these guys are

gonna try to fight us and uh me and my homie we wreck house and uh the security grabbed us up you know i'm talking to this cop you know i'm like hey man these guys started it this and that well the guy comes down and he's like he's covering his nose he's bleeding and he's like, he's covering his nose. He's bleeding. And he's like, it was him. It was him. And I'm like, that's the guy I got into a fight. And then the cop's like, hey, man, I'm sorry, bro. And the cop was actually being really cool. I remember he's like, I got to arrest you. And I'm like, bro, he started this shit.

Like, you know, we just finished it. Like, he was over there yelling at his girl. We had nothing to do with it. Like, the guy was just upset that we happened to look over. And that was the first time i went to jail damn you know it's crazy i bet there's a lot of new fans now that don't even know the fight night story that are probably googling right now being like what the hell you know what i mean because so long ago that was 2013 i think or 2012 october 12 minnesota yeah yeah Yeah. And you know what, man?

Dana White, dude, props to him, dude. He's still a great friend. And I'll never forget him really truly having my back. And yeah, that was a wild one, bro. I was working for Fox back then. I was backstage and I saw kind of like all the madness going on. And he did an interview with us backstage, but I could just see the look on his face. Like he was, he was like a raging bull back there, just like determined to fix this.

Yeah, he tried three different ways, bro. He had money, he had a wire, and they were just screwing him around. You know, my bail was $100,000 cash surety, which means it had to be 100 grand, not 10 grand for the bond uh you know he was with uh he actually told me he was with the lawyer when paris hilton had dropped that bag of coke back in the day he was with her lawyer at the time and they're like dude i've never heard of this like i don't like iowa's being so weird you know and then i'm in the jail like stretching out like they're talking about how they're gonna let me out your boss is gonna get you out and i'm just like man i don't like this fucking place up dude like they let me out of here and uh it never happened you know i was just being

super strict and i think that's back when you know like dana was like you know what man they really have it out for this kid i don't understand it and he kind of took my side on that you know and and stuck with me and you know thank god uh, that was a, that was a wild situation. And I, you know, I didn't get out that night. I ended up having to get deported back to Iowa, like eight days, seven, eight days later. And then I spent a couple of days there and, uh, and I was like in jail for like two weeks before they even, uh, lowered my bond. And this and that bro had a huge hassle to deal with and, uh, definitely, uh, a hard learning lesson in life. Man. I didn't know about the deported back. You would, they took like, they drove you back from Minnesota. Yeah. They drove

me back. Yeah. Holy shit. There you are. You're about to headline a UFC event. Yeah. I was like, Hey man, can you guys let me use the phone so I could like set up my like bank account. So my sister, uh, someone can grab me some money. My, my, my, my wife, you know, like get some money out of my bank to get me out of here. And they were being cool. Let me, uh, let me use the phone. And then once I got there, you know, like, uh, uh, it wasn't good. You know, I saw the judge like right at the very beginning and I was like, yeah, can I get my, you know, a hundred thousand cash jury? It seems kind of wild for a, just a, an assault charge, you know? And they're like, Nope, close the book.

I go back into the cell and then I'm on the, uh, the TV watching it. And, you know, there was a guy who had faked his transcripts, who had gone to jail. He was like 23 years old, faked his like school transcripts. He was working at a school, had, you know, basically molested a little 16 year old girl. And then he was in, they took him in and he had a $10,000 bond and they put them in protective custody. And that's when I was like sitting in here and I'm like, bro, I'm here for an alleged assault. And I had a hundred thousand dollars dollars like cash dirty bond on me

that's when I was like man fuck Iowa fuck the system like I'm fucked I thought for sure I was like gonna be in there to to rot so damn it was a wild wild deal man and I'm so glad those days are over it was a it was a hard learning lesson but you know it's one that I'll never forget and something that I'll use of value to this day did that get thrown out like what was the conclusion of that yeah i got i got off of everything you know i got a lawyer alfredo parish my my guy matt uh matt matt bowles in iowa with alfredo parish law firm that's uh it's one of the best law firms in iowa that you could get and uh they got me off once all the facts came came to you know my name got drugged through the mud like i'm some fucking idiot just doing this and look i've been in some street fights guys but uh you know i i grew up very well mannered you

know i never started fights you know i went through a lot of schools i got picked on a lot you know and i made sure that people just once they you know i'd hey man don't fuck with me and if they continue to mess with me you know i always had it from my dad like hey make sure no one you know ever does that again tell the teacher or you know it's like hey people keep fucking with you make sure they never put their hands on you or try to bully you again and um you know that's how i grew up so i never started fights but you know i could definitely finish one for sure by the way while we're reminiscing did you you know January 12th, 10 days ago, marked the 20th anniversary of your first pro MMA fight? It was at Downtown Destruction 1.

Do you remember? Do you remember who you fought on that night? Yeah. Red Worthington. Knocked him out via uppercut in 33 seconds. Damn. 33 seconds of your debut. My whole life changed right there, bro.

That adrenaline that night, he should have beat me. Guy was vicious, you know, on paper. But, you know, I got something that a lot of people don't really think about, which is a very strong mindset and blessed by heavy hands. How much did you get paid for that fight? Oh, I didn't. They were going to pay me $200, $200, and no one ever paid me. You know, so.

How did you celebrate? It was you celebrate them days bro like life learning lessons and then you know shortly after that i'd like gone up to minnesota and uh fought for some bullshit fucking promoters you know all promoters are scumbags pretty much so uh went up there and the guy just gave me like 60 bucks gas money didn't even didn't even offer me uh to pay me my full full pay so you know and at that point bro i didn't care i didn't have a family back then i was just doing it for the fun and pussy that was it do you remember how you celebrated yeah driving home and apologizing to my buddy who drove me up that i was gonna pay for the gas uh but you know like they were excited because i'd won the fight and you know

like everybody was just happy to just that you know that i had won and and uh gone up there and did my thing the crazy thing almost got beat up leaving there too man i guess it was like a hometown guy i've done this a couple times you know i went to fort dodge on like a day notice and uh fought up there in a small town and beat up their hometown hero and i've had people chasing me out of their lot You know and you know in that same night. I was warming up I beat up this guy go out there knee him like it was like Marvin Eastman and Vitor Belfort guys leaking I end up guillotine in them as he was trying to take me down passed him out

Get off, you know I'm just celebrating like and it's a small town bunch of white hillbilly type type people like we're just trying to chase me down and I'm like man I gotta get the fuck out of here well the promoter comes back and he's like hey man uh this dude doesn't have a fight and it was like some black guy that was warming up in the back you know he was like uh he was kind of close by me you know I knew he had like another fight and he's like hey do you want to fight this guy and I only got paid 500 bucks just to go up there on a short notice and i was like yeah pay me a flat thousand and he's like uh and i had josh near at the time and he goes bro he just fought like he'll he'll do it like

like he'll do it you pay me a flat thousand the guy kind of was like all right like i'll pay you and he looks over to the guy the kid and you know he'd been like warming up and stuff and he's like hey do you want to fight him and he had just seen what i just did dude i mean i left this dude split like bad and he was just like nah so i was like all right man let's like josh was josh near he's in the usc at the time he's selling t-shirts i'm like go dude get your t-shirts like let's get the fuck out of here bro we're not welcome here like we got the bag we got the 500 bucks that time they actually paid me and we got out of there i love these stories by the way after that debut january 12 2005 you fought three days later against gary percival

at jungle madness 2 and then you fought two weeks after that against chris kalib at uh downtown destruction 2 then you fought a month after that against Chris Mickle. Then you fought 17 days after that. Then you fought two weeks after that. It's crazy. In 2005, you had six fights between January and August. Real motherfucking G, homie.

Yeah. Now you know. Thanks. I appreciate you throwing the stats out there like that, bro. I don't feel like I get enough credit as is for what I've done. But know as a young man a young mindset you know it just goes to show that i wasn't doing it for the check i was doing this break people's necks and i just loved it bro it was just like i said at the time you know hopefully the wife forgives me i was just doing it for the

for the money and pussy at the time it was just a fun hobby bro uh i just loved it you know i grew up when fifth grade you know with my grandfather who got me into this he used to watch the ufc tapes and uh you know once i was actually tell you another story if we got time sure i was 16 years old and he's like hey i'm down at toad holler like people are fighting down there you can sign up he's like you should come down and watch it on my grandpa i'm 16 you got to be 18 to get in, 21 to drink. And he's like, oh, I know these guys. I know these guys.

And sure enough, I went there the first week. I watched it. And then the second week I came back, I fought. And that's when people started, like, recognizing my name. I kept continuing to fight, like, week after week. You know, and then people were like, hey, man, is your dad Kelly, Mike, or Jerry? And I'm like, yeah, my dad's Jerry. Man, like, man, I watched your dad, like in your uncle's fight when they were growing up like it's kind of uh a thing like that you're doing this now and and this and that and i'd be like

hey can you do me a favor just just don't tell my dad or anybody that you see me down here bro like he doesn't like me fighting so i would like people would come up and recognize me and stuff i just say hey man don't don't tell my dad, dude. He doesn't like me fighting. And, you know, history was made. Look at you. What a life. What a career. Here you are 20 years later headlining a sold-out major arena against the hometown boy.

Conor McGregor involved. How crazy is all this, right? Who the F is that guy for the fight against Eddie? You're back there. Now he's a part of bkfc and you're fighting eddie what a weird world it's amazing right like this is what it's about bro just the opportunity and it's it's crazy how life turns around you know and uh it's just a blessed opportunity man i i'm super grateful for this and and you know i know people are gonna be

there to like boo with me this and that, bro. But you guys are really in for a real treat, man. I train harder than anybody. You can put anybody against me, bro. No one prepares for bare knuckle. No one prepares for fights like me to still be doing it at this age, 20 years, two decades. Look at the list I fought, bro. Champions, beating champions, knocking the fuck out.

Super highlight reel. You know, you can put my highlight reel up against anybody, bro. Champions, beating champions, knocking the fuck out. Super highlight reel. You know, you can put my highlight reel up against anybody, bro. I guarantee it's up there in the top ten for sure. So here I am still doing it, not showing any signs of slowing down and living the dream, bro. And, you know, hopefully I get a chance to beat up my fucking boss

too. I was just going to ask you that. Is that the ultimate goal? Because I feel like he really wants to do it He wants to try this And there's a storyline there with you Yeah That's the delusion, right? So I feel like if I stay focused

Keep this championship mindset And things dialed in You know, Saturday night Is the only thing that I'm worried about I go in there and I do my job And I handle fucking business, bro. I mean, who better, bro? Who better, right?

A lot of people are like, oh, who the fuck's this guy? But look, he got taken out by calf kicks. He's been knocked out. I've continued to grow. I've continued to put myself in there. I've continued to rise and do this. And it's all leading to this moment. Life is good.

What's the prediction? How does it end on Saturday? I'm going to break them, bro. I'm going to break them. I don't predict fights, bro. I just prepare my ass off. You know, everybody talks about how like, oh, I'm not afraid to die. Well, you know, I've prepared and trained to fight my fucking ass off to live and I'm

going to be victorious. I'm certain of it. Love it. This was a lot of fun. Thank you, Jeremy. Great. A great trip down memory lane, if you will.

Really great stuff. Really enjoyed it and delighted for you and can't wait for Saturday. A bunch of the guys on our show are coming down to Philly to watch it, our first BKFC event.

So it's going to be an incredible atmosphere. It sounds like it's going to be an amazing sold out crowd, an amazing sports weekend in Philly as well. You're at the top of the marquee, so enjoy it all. Good luck to you on Saturday, and thanks for doing this. Ariel, thank you, brother. I appreciate the opportunity to tell the story, man. It was a good one. Thank you. Thank you so much. There he is,

Little Heathen, Jeremy Stephens, 2-0 in BKFC, facing Eddie Alvarez, 1-1 in BKFC, the hometown boy. There's been some sort of implication that this might be the last one for Eddie, but he hasn't quite said that. By the way, they're going to have a press conference tomorrow in Philly, 3 p.m. Eastern. And the word is Conor McGregor will be involved. And so that should be quite interesting. Also, Ben Rothwell on the card.

He's very fun in the BKFC world. Taylor Starling against Beck Rawlings, Rowdy Beck. They've got some momentum, these boys. We had a tremendous chat with Dave Feldman in studio a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't seen it, highly, highly, highly recommend it. He's the founder of BKFC. And yeah, the crew's going down, road trip down to Philly. Have we planned out the itinerary? Do we know what we're doing?

Where are we eating? Where are we getting the cheesecake? Cheesecakes, not the cheesecake. I love a good cheesecake factory. Where are we getting the cheese steaks from? What are we doing? Gino's, Pat's? I've talked to some local Philadelphians, and they say Delisandros.

That was the most, I asked all of them for their top three, and that seemed to be the common thread. All of them had Delisandros on there. I think I'm going to go try three places. So if anyone has any recommendations, please tell us. Why three? You know, you got to test the water, see how they are. Okay, Ishka Bibbles. I've heard Geno's and Pat's are not the move.

No. Those are the tourist trap. Everyone says tourist trap, yeah. Yeah, so Geno's and Pat's is out. Delisandros, we need two more. Those are the tourist trap. Everyone says tourist trap. Yeah. Okay. So Geno's and Pat's is out. D'Alessandro's. We need two more. Angelo's is me, Ariel, Mark Ray Mundy last time. Got Angelo's.

I thought we got D'Alessandro's. No, we got Angelo's. Damn it. All right. I believe. I'm fairly certain. Mark and- Yeah.

Right before SmackDown. Right before SmackDown. The Hall of Fame. Yeah, that was great. Was incredible. Could not recommend. I feel like it's the hot one right now. It's kind of the one that everybody's on.

Mike, our cam op from Monday, from the PA area, told us Steve's is a spot to check out. If people got thoughts on Steve's, let us know. I'm planning to go to Steve's because I've been to all the others. I have thoughts. I have thoughts. Okay's, let us know. I'm planning to go to Steve's because I've been to all the others. I have thoughts. I have thoughts. Oh, okay. Let's hear it.

A couple who used to be our next-door neighbor and we've remained friends with, when I told them that we were going to Philly for WrestleMania, they said, you have to go to Shea's Steaks. Now, they told me this great story. Her uncle is a judge in Philadelphia, but also has a deep passion for cheesesteaks and opened up this cheesesteaks shop. We went to this place, Shea's.

S-H-A-Y, new kid on the block. I think at that point, April of last year, they were open for like six to eight months. The best cheesesteak I've ever had in my life. No joke. Why are you laughing? I'm looking at it right now. Phenomenal. 1,451

Google reviews. Yeah. 4.9 out of 5 stars. Phenomenal. 4.9 is a number. You are posting something right there. And to have 1,000 in that short a time is pretty impressive. Phenomenal. The local Philadelphians told me D'Alessandro's. You say Shea's. I say shays i say now we'll let the people speak for what the third one why not do i

i would actually love because i always hear people say pat johns tourist but i never actually hear anyone go there and say yay or nay okay so we add one of those the tour tourist traps yeah i'm getting there early one because there you're going you're going tourist trap waste you're going a waste why why let's see it i think this is the best indicator i've been there a hundred times I'm getting there early It's a waste Why? I think this is the best indicator I've been there a hundred times The insider one And then the new kid on the block

Don't waste the time I don't mind that Which one is more touristy? They're the same Don't waste the time Go to the premium cuts What's the third then? Maybe it could be Angelo's maybe it could be the steves or ishka bibbles we need some

we need some people to weigh in uh gotta get a water ice while i'm down there order yet this feels this feels to me like the new york pizza thing where it's like you'll ask 10 people and then you'll get seven answers everyone's got a random one everyone's got their own you just i will tell you I will tell you, I will tell you this though, no disrespect, it's not Pat and G, Pat's and G.

Wow. I'm getting there, I'm getting there early, so I'm going to have time, man. I'm going to enjoy the sightseeing sounds of Philadelphia. When are you going?

When are you going? I pull up at like 1030 on Saturday morning. Rick and Frank, they'll get there until like 445. Wait a second, you're going to have

three cheesesteaks in the span of 24 hours? You think I'm eating the entire cheesesteak? No, we just go and get a sampling at each. I think we need to go Friday evening. Oh, you don't get to make the plans, okay? You won't even leave the house.

You're going? Who the fuck is we, huh? Who the fuck is we? Are we getting a fight fees? Yes. Oh, we are? Yeah. Of all three?

Yeah. Yeah. By the way, the chat is on fire here. They're saying Angelos, De La Rosi. I'm seeing another one here. Wait, wait, wait. We're hunting. It's on fire.

It is on fire right now. Well, there's a lot of other bullshit there. Angelos, De La Sandro, De La Rosi, Steve's. Okay, so Steve's and Angelos both came up. Steve is getting another call. Beal Zabub says he went to a swingers club in Philly back in 2019 Rosi, Steve's. Okay, so Steve's and Angelo's both came up. Steve's getting another call. Beal Zabub says he went to a swingers club in Philly back in 2019. Oh, that's great.

Yeah, he could go. Noted. Rocco's. That's a different kind of Rocco's. Angelo's, there's two back-to-back for Angelo's. All right, so it was Angelo's the third. Yeah. Angelo's is-

Geno's needs a mention. I'm fairly certain, Ariel, that the one we had last time was Angelo's, and that was pretty damn good. Has Rick always had that stud in his ear? I feel like more attention should be paid to it. Let me tell you something. By the way, go look at Shay's menu. They've got like Wagyu steak in there.

They've got filet mignon. Say no more. I'm sold on Shay's. I'm in for Shay's. There's even a chicken one that my daughter got. See, that's, now we're out. I'm just saying it was actually fantastic. Say no more, Shay's.

I'm actually considering coming just for the Shay's. I didn't know Shayays was on the table. I didn't know we were going to Shays. All right, we're going to Shays. You're in. Come on down. By the way, can I just ask GC... I'll let BKFC know you're coming.

GC, if you were listening, when Jeremy Stevens just casually mentions getting arrested on the night that he was headlining a UFC event, is there any part of you going like, what the fuck is he talking about? Yeah. This was a crazy story.

It was insane. UFC fight night in Minnesota. Did you look it up? No, I haven't looked it up yet. UFC fight night in Minnesota. Literally, we're there backstage and we're like, hey, Jeremy Stevens is supposed to headline. He's in jail. Could you imagine?

Dana White's backstage like a raging bull, like figuring out. And then does an interview with me backstage saying we're going to get him out and he's going to fight. And we're like, he's going to leave jail and fight? It didn't happen. I just wonder how you, if you're watching this, how you react if you're Armin Sarukian. 24 hours before,

my back hurts. I actually can't fight because I pulled my back and can't walk. Screw that guy, Dana White says. Jeremy Stephens, I'm in jail, boss. Dana White, coming to post your bail. Let's get him the fuck out of there. It was wild. Different times, wild times.

I got to be honest, I really forgot about that story so long ago. Oh, man. I remember it once a month. I mean, Saturday, it's going to be on fire. The heel roll that he's taken up against the city of Philadelphia and Eddie Alvarez, 18,000 people in Wells Fargo, bare knuckle, will have been crescendoing coming off the Ben Rothwell fight.

He was a big underdog, by the way. That's a heavyweight championship on the line. Into this one, it's going to be seen. Yeah, it's going to be nuts. I truly can't wait. I mean, the reviews from people who have been to BKFC events, and we're going to go to KnuckleMania 5 in Philadelphia. I can't wait, man. These guys are on fire. How about

there's a difference between a man who's hungry and a man who's starving. I'm the guy who's starving. That's a bar. I wanted this opportunity. He's starving. Some of those stories, man, and you know it's like he's telling us 10% of the stories. You know what I mean? I don't want to get incriminated.

The freaking zoom in on the knuckles. Golly. Did you see them? They were like cut up. He ready he's ready and i'm and i guarantee eddie is too it's gonna be sick and evan's making a great point yeah you see learning so much today arrests at ufc events and 77 year olds giving birth to him that's right there's a lot i mean there's always more to learn that's right always more to learn i'm a little bit jealous i i'm not gonna lie i wanted to go but it's not more to learn. That's right. There's always more to learn. No, I'm a little bit jealous. I'm not going to lie. I wanted to go, but it's not up to me this time. I actually was, I'm the one who threw it out first. What?

To go. BKFC? Yes. No, dude, we had already booked a train ticket. That is so crazy. You were like, yeah, maybe you guys go to BKFC. We'd been talking about it for a while. From jump, you were like, maybe you guys go, because you were never going to come.

Such a lie. I'm actually quite offended. I wanted to go. You know, if it doesn't involve a plane, I'm more than happy to go. I drove back and forth four times during WrestleMania weekend. Now, we're going to Shays. You're coming. We're going to Shays.

No, it's my kids. My wife is going to Toronto. They can come. Look, you do a little stop in Philly, then you go. Maybe we just come for Shays. We just drive an hour and a half. I mean, it takes me almost an hour and a half to get here You could be featured on the fight fees

Oh my god Wow, Helwani on fight fees I wouldn't make the cut Helwani sucking the air out of the room Oh, why is the boss here Oh, why does it always have to be him I haven't seen those comments Are you seeing that?

It had to be him Yeah, it just have to be him? I haven't seen those comments. Are you seeing that? It had to be him. Yeah, it just had to be him. Anyway, gents, you guys have a very big weekend ahead of you because you're going on this road trip. And when you go on a road trip and you're about to eat a lot of food, you need to work out before. You need to be fit. And so as we said, it's Averon Wednesdays around these parts. We love our Averon. We've been having these head-to-head battles, GC versus Rick.

Yep. It's, you know, there I see. We're still doing this. Well. Listen, hey, don't be disrespectful. It's been a little Rampage Chuck Liddell-esque, if you will. It's been one-way traffic, okay? Hold on, hold on.

Let me just correct the record. First time, the gentleman to my right cheated and adjusted the... We agreed the same resistance he cheated. Second time, yeah, he got me. He got me. I'm not going to lie. He had 26. I had 21. It was rough.

It was a drubbing. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling confident today. Okay, so for those that don't know, we go head-to-head one minute on the bike. Whoever can get the most output. And the resistance, we're doing the thing where... No, you can choose whatever you want.

We've established now. Any resistance you want. And you feel confident. You feel confident that you can turn the tide. It is what it is. I feel confident. No, I was talking to you. I was talking to Rick on that one. Look, I'm not going to pretend. I'm down 2-0. He's yoked. I'm down 2-0.

Connor's in great shape. I'm in shape. You're in shape. I'm in some shape. It's a shape. I'm in a shape. And I'm going to give it my best, but listen, I don't make excuses. I'm confident that I'm going to be able to get it done today, and if I can, I can't, but I'm going to give it an best, but listen, I don't make excuses. I'm confident that I'm going to be able to get it done today, and if I can, I can't,

but I'm going to give it an effort, and I feel good. I feel ready. How about that? I feel ready. I feel like this is- How about this? I'm starving. Connor's hungry.

I'm fucking starving. I love it. I love it. I feel like there's a lot of pressure on Connor because the first two races were, I mean, they weren't- It was 26 and 21. Let's not act like the last one was. They weren't really close.

There's no pressure. It wasn't 50 to 20. It was 26 and 21. Relax. There's no pressure. I've only gotten better. Rick has gotten worse. He was stuffing his face with Santa's cookies over the holidays.

He's done nothing. Wow. I have been getting in pristine shape, chiseling. You even look like a Tour de France. You've got the zip up. This is the warm up. I'll lose the warm-up when it's time to go but i mean this are you wearing like a full leotard thing no no no i

wouldn't do that against new york rick this is okay i'm not i'm not a wow jesus um i'm not gonna lie there may be some truth to that is it possible could could i could i say my back is hurt and potentially wow potentially push this off to a he's's trying to go eat some Dave's Hot Chicken. That's a low blow. What? Too soon. That's a low blow. Too soon.

Literally three days ago. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm not going to... Look, we can talk. You set the tone, man. You know what?

I'm going. I'm going. Let's just do this. Let's just do this. And I'll just say, as you head over there, a lot of pressure, I would say, on GC, lest we forget, after your second race, we had UFC superstar, top rank welterweight Sean Brady say, yo, I'm not impressed and I could smoke both of you.

And I think you talked a little smack. I called him out after the last one. Whenever he's ready. Nowhere to be found, of course, but we'll go round three here between the guys. And I think that GC has talked a big game. I think he has laid down the gauntlet.

I'm excited to see the number Rick puts up. I like how we've kind of moved on as if I'm not even going to be competitive in this. Whatever he sets the number at is just the number I have to beat. He makes it easy for me. Here we go. We're logged in as Connor still. I mean, the disrespect just continues. We're already logged in as Connor.

Wow. What resistance we starting at, Rick? Alright, so let me get into this for a second here second here tank the tank in the chat is setting the line at gc minus 700 is that disrespectful rather i'll be honest it might be higher than that um i'm thinking this is my logic i've first time i had the resistance way too low i was just peddling in place that was stupid i messed Second time, I tried to match your high output and then tapered down. And that, I gassed out too quick. I'm thinking the plan for this one is I'm going to keep it a nice 50, 60 and see if I can just keep a good pace throughout.

That's my plan for the moment. Okay. That was before you started. By the way, do you remember, just so we know, do you remember what you got last time? I got 21 last time. Do you remember what you got the first time? I don't know. It was lower. It was like 14, 15, right? Yeah, we both, no, I think Connor got 15. I got something like 11. The first one was a trial run. We didn't really do it right.

And GC, you got 26 the second time? Yeah, 26. Smoked him. Guys, easy! He was giving up. I'm starting here. By the. Smoked. Guys, easy. I'm just about to run. He was giving up. I'm starting. I'm starting here. I feel like, by the way, I feel like this is like, you guys are. Here we go.

Now, Rick, we're counting on you here. Yeah, we lost the screen, brother. We lost the screen. Okay, okay, okay. We're counting on you to give us an update. Where are you at right now? I'm just starting. I'm just starting.

No line, no cheese. 53 seconds left. Oh, jeez. What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? We've got 45 seconds left. I'm at six. He's at six.

45 seconds left. Post a number, brother. Post a number. It's one minute. Look at him. He's keeping pace. I'm trying to keep a steady pace this time. Yes.

I love it. The camera's shaking. The camera's rocking. You're putting the work in. What resistance are we at? 60, 60. I might have to go down. I'm fading. Oh camera's shaking. The camera's rocking. They're putting the work in. What resistance are we at? 60, 60. I might have to go down. I'm fading. Oh, my God, already. The legs are feeling it. He's pulling a new bar out of you.

He's like Von Miller picking up the ball. He's running out of gas. What are you at? No. Whoa. He can't even talk. No. What are we at? 20 seconds? Like 20, not even. 18 oh how much time's left

too much wow it's not even pedaling anymore golly it's not even pedaling this is disgrace that's it done 19.4 19.4 all right let's put this one to bed. Is that actually... I'm about to go up 3-0. Is that actually lower than the second time? I had 21 last time. Golly, what happened? What happened?

You know, we went out there, we gave it our best. Look at him. Look at him, he's huffing and puffing. It was... Oh, God. It was tougher than we expected, you know? The opposition, they showed up. They were ready.

19.4 is crazy. 19.4 is nasty work. How did you go backwards? Listen, Ariel. You're in the same studio as me. Anytime you want to hop on there. You know what? I might be the final boss.

I would love that. Now we got GZ. He's out there stretching. Good luck. Good luck. Oh, that's great. You know what? Sportsmanship.

That's very kind of you. That's very professional. Averonactive.com slash uncrown. Look at that bike, by the way. It's a beautiful screen. You can gamify your workouts. GC's showing up. I don't know if it's an eight-pack or a six-pack. It's a beautiful screen. You can gamify your workouts. GC's showing up. I don't know if it's an eight-pack or a six-pack. It's a summer. No, it's neither. It's neither. We still got the winter coat on right now.

Listen. Been hibernating. We'll get it going in the summer. Rick, going a little low here. I need to make sure I'm nice and cozy on this thing. Let's see if I can mount this thing up. We're just going to have to go with this. Your thoughts on that performance? 19.4. Laughable. Laughable. Laughable. 19.4 is what I'm trying to be. Are you actually surprised that it was lower than the

second time? Yes. I'm actually shocked. He had a month to train for this. And this is what he brings out to me? He's Eddie Alvarez showing up to this fight on Saturday, according to Jeremy Stevens. Are we ready ready uh yes we are ready uh let me give you a countdown okay or you could give us a contact because i just want to i want to be able to to monitor this i know we lost the screen in there obviously you know tech issues happen yeah uh all right here we go time machine i'm gonna go there it is sure enough new york rick New York Rick, score 19. All right. 60 seconds.

Here we go. I'm going to start at 95, 4, 3, 2, 1. We're underway. Okay, here we go. You're standing up to start? Oh, we're out of the gates, Kyle. We're putting this one to bed. He's standing up to start.

This rivalry is done after today. This is unprecedented. The rivalry is done. Wow. After today. Oh, man. We're already at 6. unprecedented. The rivalry is done. Wow. After today. Oh, man. We're already at 6.2. Oh, my God.

45 seconds left. 30 miles an hour. Come on. I mean, we have never seen this type of approach. This type of game plan to start standing up is an unprecedented and shows his dedication. Listen to that controlled. 47 seconds dedication. Let's look at that controlled 47 seconds left.

We're already at 15. Wow! He's got a big head 7 round. He's breathing out his mouth and in his nose. He's just peak performance right now. Oh my god, look at that. This is too easy. Shining. Too easy. Another win for the bald There it is. Beat it?

Easy. With 10 seconds to spare. What are you at? What are you at? 20. We got to where we need to be. You're not even going. We got to where we need to be. Wow.

Another dub. That is incredible. Another dub. Just too easy. It's just too easy. Well done. Congratulations. Look at that.

Three nothing. Jeez Louise. What was the score ah he said 20 something he didn't even care this is like someone you know in a in a hundred meter dash just blowing through the competition and and literally just walking across the finish line yeah you know what i don't appreciate you know this could be an opportunity for for some support this could be an opportunity for a okay here we could be an opportunity for a, okay, here we're going to get in the lab. You're talking all that smack from the sidelines.

You could come train me since you're so skilled. The point is, I don't feel like you took the last month seriously. Look, am I going to lie and say that there weren't a lot of Haribo deals at BJ's where I just killed like 15 pounds of gummy bears? I'm not going to lie and say that that didn't happen. But am I going to make it as an excuse? I'm not. It was well done by GC.

I'm done with this old man. You're finished? 3-0. What more is to be said? It's over. I'm done with him. No, no, no. It's been over.

I'll be back. I'll be back. I got one name on my mind, baby. Oh? I said it last time. I'm going to say it again. Oh? I don't need to be racing'm going to say it again. Oh. I don't need to be racing against dads, racing against bums out here.

It's over between me and Rick. Wow. I need a name on my resume that people are going to respect. No one respects me beating New York Rick. I want a real athlete, the king of the PI. Still an easy ride for me. Wow. I'm the fastest two men on wheels, baby.

You know what it is though Sean Brady Wow Whenever you're ready baby Whenever you're ready I'm waiting right here Short drive over from Philly Come get this work Right here

Right now You set the date Wow Call out to Sean Brady UFC Welterweight contender One of the best fighters on the planet You say you whoop his ass

Easy work Kill him Yeah he's a pro fighter He'd break me in half in the cage Sean Brady, UFC welterweight contender, one of the best fighters on the planet. You say you whoop his ass. Easy work. Kill him. Yeah, he's a pro fighter. He'd break me in half in the cage. I'm a pro peddler, baby. Wow. I'm the fastest man on two wheels whenever he's ready.

I can't lie. I'd be interested to see it because I'm shit in the bed right now. Oh, I'd love to see it. Because there's a lot at stake for Brady. You think he would take the risk of losing to a pedestrian? He's the king of the PI. I see him in there with the bikes, with the fans, the assault bikes. He's killing it with Joe Pfeiffer and everyone. Yada, yada, yada.

Wow. When he wants to come for the king, I'm ready. Them's fighting words. I love this shit. All right, I'm going to move aside and let him do it then. I'm done. Look, I love everything about it. I'm not sure if you are biting off a little more than you can chew.

Sean Brady, one of the best athletes on the planet. But I love everything about it. I love the gusto. I love the machismo. I just wish you could say this to Sean Brady. I wish he could actually be here to defend himself. I wish you could say this to his face. Call him up.

Let's have him on the next show. Sean, what do you think? Oh! Big shot! Oh, there he he is big shot in the house sign the contract brady kick his ass contract listen man i got eddie alvarez's shirt on i'm gonna eddie's gonna dog jeremy saturday i'm pulling up to New York next month, and I'm going to dog you in your studio. Let's go, Sean. Let's go. I'm going to get some revenge for Rick.

I'm going to get some revenge for all the average Joes out there, and I'm going to have to put you to bed. After I beat you, I'm going to fly out to Vegas to the PI and break your own record there as well. I'm putting you in the dirt, and then I'm burying you, Sean. Yo, we're going to see each other in two or three days at Welcome to Margo. I'll be ready, Sean. Remember, few will hurt, baby.

I got a few questions. I got a few questions. Please, please, please. What is that bike measuring? So it's output, which is like it's a combination of you set a resistance and then you're pedaling against it so higher resistance and if you get a rotation in that it's going to be higher output lower calories it's not calories okay it's their own metric if you're on low resistance and you get a rotation it's less output than if it was on higher

so you got to kind of the key to it is you got to find the right resistance i was probably a little too low resistance at 50 60 too long it's all right he was in the he listen i'm i'm i'm good money now because you got my back you're gonna take this one more stipulation i don't want this minute bullshit where it's just like you know pump and dump i want i want to go for three minutes let's let's make this a real competition let's see who really is the best man on the bike. That's even better. Oh, perfect. My longer stuff was better than my shorter stuff.

Listen, you can go 25 rounds in the octagon. Can you go three minutes on the bike with me, though? That's the real question, Brady. We're going to find out next month in New York. Oh, my God. I can't wait. Your picture's going to be posted up in my gym. Every time I hop on the bike, I'm going to be looking at Brady. I'm going to take a picture of you and put it right in front of my bike.

Every day I'm doing sprints. I'm thinking of GC. No more desserts. No more sweets. No more alcohol. The month I'm locked in. This is a four-week training camp. I feel like we have to get a face-off in Philly.

I feel like we need to get a face-off in Philly. I feel like we need to get a face-off in Philly to make it official. I'm cornering one of my teammates fighting Saturday, and I'm going to be there all night. Oh, shit, let's go. We'll actually be in the arena. This is incredible. We'll be there. I'll get your number from Ariel,

and we'll set it up. Oh, my God. Yes. I have three things for you guys. Please, please. I heard you talking about the cheesesteaks. Oh, please, yes. Angelo's is the best cheesesteak in Philadelphia.

If you've already had that, you've probably had the best cheesesteak. Cafe Carmela and then Steve's. Steve's is a local to me. Another record for Steve's. Those are the top three, I think, in Philly. Incredible. Okay, so I've heard of Steve's. The second one, Cafe Carmela?

It's new. New? Have you had Shea's? Have you had Shea's? I haven't. I don't eat cheesesteaks very frequently, but I haven't heard of that, so I'm going to have to look into it.

Look into it. It's new. You were saying good things, so I have to check it out. The reviews are fantastic. I'm not a connoisseur like perhaps the other guys are, but I mean, I was blown away by the quality. You know, I'm a bit of

a bourgeois when it comes to my meat, Sean. You know, like I'm a little... Was it chopped or was it slabs? Chopped. Chopped. Do you like that? What do you think? So there's two different kinds of steaks. There's... Steve's is a slab of meat. And then Angelo's

and Cava Carmela, they're all chopped. So I consider them two different kinds of cheesesteaks, too. What do you prefer? I used to slab a lot better. Chopped is kind of the way to go now. Okay. Well, I'm just so happy that Philly has something to be proud of. Because, I mean, Lord knows, I mean, the basketball team

is shite. Don't do it. I mean, if you guys slip against the commanders, I mean, you can't slip against the commanders. All the pressure is on you. Don't, I mean. Saturday, Wells Fargo, Eddie Alvarez, getting it done. Yeah. Sunday, at the Lincoln Financial,

the Eagles are getting it done. Could you imagine? Bill's Eagles, what do you think? Are you rooting for the Bills? I hope we face you guys. Why is that? Because then me and you are going to have this little... Oh, I thought you were saying... I thought you were implying we're the easier matchup.

I think you guys are probably the harder matchup, to be honest. But as of late, I think you guys are going to get it done. But this is our year. This is our year. You really think so? It's happening. It's happening. You just got one like five years ago.

It's been a while. It's been a while. 2017. It's been a while. It's been a while. Oh, my gosh. Good things are happening in Philly, though. Good things are happening.

We need a UFC event in Philly. That's what we need. I know. No real talk of it. What about this? By the way, what about what Eddie and BKFC are doing here? Dave Feldman and the crew. I think you just spoke to Dave, right, on your show?

Me and Joey Piper just had Dave on our show this morning. How was it? Amazing. What a guy, right? One of the best interviews. We never had anybody on the show, but I fought for Dave back in the day. He had a promotion called XFE, and I did two of my amateur fights for him. And then Joey fought for him.

He fought Lorenzo Hunt for Dave at the 2300 Arena. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Okay, this was prior to all of this. I think his brother's in celebrity boxing as well, but he's got a crazy backstory. So this is on the Brady Bags show. Yep, Brady Bags show, yep. And when is this coming out? Later today.

Okay. Later today, yeah. Yeah, because we heard him on, obviously, I've known Dave for years, but then he was on your show, and then obviously being back in Philly. I'm going to the press conference tomorrow. Obviously, Lloyd manages me and Eddie, so I'm going to go meet up with Lloyd. And I'm super excited. I've never been to a bare knuckle, and I've honestly never been this excited to go to an event. I'm waking up every day getting more excited as the days go by to go on Saturday.

So it's going to be my first time. I'm going to corner, and then I'm going to be in the stands. So I don't know what to expect, but I'm excited. I mean, it sounds like maybe a sellout. They're going to beat the UFC's gate the last time they were there. Huge weekend in Philly for sports, right? With this on Saturday and the Eagles on Sunday. So love it.

And I love that Eddie's getting this opportunity. We just had Jeremy Stephens on. He was talking mad shit. I was listening. Okay. He's talking mad shit. He is. But Jeremy's like. He's talking mad shit. He is. But Jeremy's like, he's a real fighter, and he can back it up.

He's definitely a dog, but I just think that everything's lining up for Eddie perfectly. I don't think it's going to be an easy fight. I think it's going to be a war, but the Underground King is going to get it done. Your boy that's fighting on Saturday, what's his name? but the Underground King is going to get it done. Your boy that's fighting on Saturday, what's his name? His name is Ito Babaluite. He's Georgian. I can't say his last name.

But his name is Ito Babaluite. He's one of my main training partners for Gilbert Burns. He's 5-0 in MMA. He got this opportunity to do bare knknuckle because he was in a weird – he fought on PFL's Challenger Series. He won two times and then was kind of in a weird spot with a contract with them. Contract is finally over, so he's getting this opportunity to do bare-knuckle, and then he's going to get back to MMA in April.

But, yeah, I don't know if you've ever met a real Georgian person, someone from Georgia in person. This guy has the hardest hands I've ever felt in my life. I'll hold mitts for him, and it hurts my hands. I can't imagine when it's going to be

bare knuckle. It's going to be crazy. When you're holding mitts for him, is he punching bare knuckle? No, no. So he's done like, my coach will hold, I'm talking about with gloves it hurts, but he's been training with like hitting mitts with just like, that's one thing I was asking Dave today about them explaining like how they wrap their wrist and wrap their thumbs. So that's what he was doing, wrapping his wrist, wrapping his thumbs. But he was hitting mitts. Obviously, you can't spar bare knuckle.

He was still sparring with boxing gloves and small gloves. But yeah, like wrapping his hands, hitting mitts, hitting the bag with no fucking, no gloves on. So yeah, it's, I'm super excited to see what it's like in person. Would you ever do this? I'm sad you're not going to be there. I know, I know. Listen, you know, sometimes, you know about this.

Someone's got to pay the bills. That's right. Your baby's coming any day now, right? Three weeks. Wow. Wow. What are the feelings? What are the emotions?

Just excited. I'm just ready. I'm ready for her to get here. It feels like it's been, it went by so fast, but now these last couple of weeks are just taken forever. And my wife's just, she's ready. Uh, she's not over it. Like she's very grateful, but, um, she's ready for the baby to be here. Is she like waddling and stuff now? Yeah. And she's a nurse. So she's still working. Like she's still working three twelves. She's to it's crazy she's a nurse you

would think that they would get some of the most like the best time afterwards she only gets three months of um of leave and it's all her own time so i've heard of some girls getting six months off paid she's got she's working to get as much time as she can stacked up so when the baby's here she can take all for as long as possible so yeah it's um it's crazy but yeah she's just she's ready she's ready to she's ready for the little girl to be here enjoy enjoy these last few days I remember I don't remember as much the the last few days before the second and third last few days before the first i remember them vividly so enjoy everything that comes with that yeah i will i will last time we spoke by the way you were you

were pushing for that that leon fight you didn't get it what happened what happened john what happened didn't get it no we're pushing for kamara usman now okay that's the push that's where we're going yes okay yeah that's that's what um that's right that's the push. That's where we're going. Yes. Okay. That's what I think makes the most sense. In the top five, that's what makes the most sense. Just waiting to see. Waiting to hear. I would like to be on that

April 12th card in Miami, but for Kamaru to fight a legend like him and a former champion, I would wait a little bit longer. I'm going to see Louis tomorrow and see if we hear anything. How confident are you that he takes this fight? He seems to be a little bit choosy at this stage of his career.

Yeah, but if you look at the landscape of the division, I don't really think there's anybody else. Everyone, there's all killers. So you're getting a tough fight wherever you're going inside that top five, top eight, everyone's really good. So, um, I don't think there's any picking and choosing easy matchups and yeah, unless he wants to wait for some fights to happen, but then that really wouldn't mean he wanted to be fighting till the end of the year or something like that. So, um, yeah, it just kind of depends on what, um, what he's trying to do.

I feel like it's, it's Usman, it's Buckley or it's Gary, your next opponent. It's got to be one of those three. Yeah. I, I, and I'm fine with any one of them. So, but ranking them first. Usman, of course, because he's a former champion and, um, I respect guys like that. And I want to fight guys that I respect. And I want to have, like, I had Gilbert, former title challenger, fought him, beat him. Now the next thing is fight a former champion, and that's what I'm really, really hoping for. So we'll see what happens.

Who do you like in that fight, by the way, Leon or Jack? I like Jack. Favorite. He's the betting favorite right now. I like Jack. Favorite. He's the betting favorite right now. I like Jack. I think on the feet, Jack probably is one of the hardest punchers in the division. I don't think Leon's dynamic enough to take Jack down. We've seen how well-rounded Jack is on the ground.

Even if you get him down, he creates really good scrambles, and he gets back to his feet. I think Leon's in for a tough night with Jack, to be completely honest with you. Wow. That would be huge for the division. It feels, we were talking about this yesterday.

It feels like there's a changing of the guard happening in the division. Yeah. You know, the Colbys of the world and all these kind of wonder boy and like all you guys are coming to the forefront. And it feels like we've been waiting for this. Like it's kind of been a slow build, but now we're finally here. Yeah, it's finally happening. Obviously, we have Belal and Shavkat. There's a lot of big fights coming up, you know.

But, yeah, a lot of the older guys are kind of holding up to divisions. But, yeah, I feel like it happens in every division. I'm hoping to fight in April. So, we'll see what happens. Okay, April, by the way. When's the due date? February 13th. February 13th.

Okay, two months later. Because, you you know you don't get a lot of sleep in those early days the beginning but my wife like i already told her this i mean listen she loves her job or else i would tell her like listen you could quit you know like we'll we'll make it work but she'll be home for at least three months so i feel like that's actually a really good time for me to go and fight you know because, cause I'll have that opportunity to have her home and, um, have that extra time. And she was, she was on board with Liam. Like she wanted me, she was like, yo, if you get that, make it happen. So she was on board. She was like, I'll stay home and I'll take care of the baby. You just go take care of business. So

Miami's a lot, a lot quicker flight than, uh, than the UK. SoK., so that will work out a lot better. Well, you don't know your next assignment as far as fighting is concerned, but it sounds like you know your next assignment as far as bike racing is concerned. So at least you got that. One more thing I want to say, TC. When I did the UFC PI one-minute test, I got that one too. I was blacking out to win that. so i want this man to be prepared i'm ready to die on the bike i'm ready to die on the bike sean just know what you're getting know what

you're getting you clip i hope you're clipping into that bike because if you pass out you don't fall off i'll be ready i'm waiting sean i'm Sean Look at these tree trunks baby Look at these tree trunks I'm training for you Let's go Hang the picture right behind it We need to get you an Averon bike So you can actually practice on the thing

That seems like the only fair thing to do Tell them to send it I know I am going to tell them Tell them to send it I'll promote it Send it out and listen if gc if you somehow beat me oh wait excuses let's hear it i'll wherever in i'm in my garage right now about to work out i'll hang up your your picture will go somewhere wow you're gonna immortalize him on your eyes in the brady gym if i get the dub but when i do win yes you have to put a picture

of me behind you and oh i love it i bet bet that's a deal i love this i love you i'm gonna see you saturday we'll we'll shake on it all right we'll sign the contracts on saturday we'll make this thing concrete i love everything about what you guys just did i i do want to just say i wonder if it was a rookie move on GC's part to push for three minutes. That's almost like asking to go 25 minutes with Marab. I was ready to push for five. My management team is the one to say to go for three. I've seen him give up with 10 seconds left on just a couple of minutes ago. He's not making three minutes max effort. He ain't making it. And what is this PI race that you're talking about what happened here you went up against other ufc fighters so uh i broke one of the records a

while ago for the vo2 max um test at the pi but that was there for joey's last fight in june and i did the uh the one minute all out on the um echo bike well the the assault bike and i got like the i broke the record for that one too so it's one minute like they have the vo2 max on your face and they just tell you to go as hard as you can you're trying to hold a certain watt um or rpm for that entire well it's one minute and you just go as hard as you can, and I broke the record for it. Wow. Did you know this, GC? Yeah. That's why I want him on my resume.

That's why I want the dub over Brady on my record. That's like me trying to fight Kamara. I want Kamara on my resume. He wants me on his resume. I get it. You want his head on your mantle. You want to beat the guy. Exactly.

I get it. I respect it. Okay, so we're going to talk behind the scenes. I'll get in touch with Lloyd. We'll draw up the contracts. Maybe even have a contract signing right here in the studio. And Sean Brady's going to grace us with his presence. What's that?

We can do it at Wells Fargo. All right. GC, bring the contracts. We'll draw them up. I got you, bro. This is incredible. All right, brother. Thank you so much, Sean.

You're the man. Appreciate it. All right, boys. Have a good one. I'll see you soon. Yeah. The great Sean Brady. How was, oh my God.

How did we pull that off? Sean Brady was there the whole time How did you pull it off is the real question You knew Legend incredible guy love Sean What a nice guy And I really think he wants to beat your ass I don't think he wants to beat your ass like this

But I think he's taking this personally I want him to smoke me on the bike You knew about all of that The PI race stuff So he's like an actual beast at this the fastest man on two wheels studies the tape respect when's the breaking point we're gonna find out and why go to three you think that you can outwork him outlast him i'm a machine baby cardio king i you know what in your defense like there's no huffing and puffing if we go to Rick right now There's probably still

Huffing and puffing No? The Georgian in me man Where do you think Merab learned the cardio? Yeah Listen It's not huffing and puffing

It's just like I'm just taking my time You know I'm just like Easing back Easing back to life You know That's all

Listen I don't have to worry About this anymore My guy Sean Got me I'm gonna be there Squeezing the water bottle Into his mouth

while he's on the three minutes. This is good. Listen, it's no longer just me versus GC. Now it's me and Sean. It's a team effort. I like it. He's coming to help you out. I'm helping him out.

Do Frank and Rick do a number one contender right now? No, no, no, no. Who, me? Shout out to Brady for watching, participating. Who, me? Shout out to Brady for watching, participating. GC's been calling him out. Brady's been calling GC out. I mean, it was only a matter of time. I'm just glad, look,

I'm just glad I could be there to facilitate and now I can step out of the way and our boy Sean can handle it. We make the big fights happen around these places. Okay, but here's the thing, I gotta be honest. I'm kind of rooted for my guy GC. I know, I know. What? After all that? You just said he's got your back. I got to be honest. I'm kind of rooted for my guy, GCU. I know. Oh, what? After all that?

You just said he's got your back. He wants to say he lost to the champ. I want to say, you know, the best man beat me. Also, he's my guy. I mean, he's my co-host. Like, I love the guy to death. I just, how about this? I just want a good match.

I just want a good match. Can I do the boring, lame thing and just say, like, I'm rooting for everybody. I just want the good match. I have have to say and and and i appreciate you saying that i really liked your chances in the one minute showdown and you're really gonna like them in the three i think the three is ill-advised i need a date i need a date yeah that i can just pin on my wall every time i start to get tired and worried about the three minutes so give me the date. February 21st. What's the date going to be? I need the date to live in my head. It sounds like you don't believe in GCF. No, no, no. I'm just worried. I don't need people to believe in me. I believe

in myself. I got enough self-belief to carry me through this. What's the line? What are we putting the line at? Brady minus 200. Okay. You know what? That's fair. People will bet Brady up. That's fine. I'll take the disrespect. I love this. This is pretty great. By the way, he brought That's fine. I'll take the disrespect. I love this. This is pretty great.

By the way, he brought up something interesting. Is there a clip-on function on that bike? I don't think so. To keep GC strapped in? You put your legs in. Okay. All right. So there you go.

You're good. You don't need it because that was a good point that he brought up. You're really worried about him. Oh, yeah. I'm going to gas out. Well, as the president of uncrowned media, I don't want any... No, no, we're good.

Incidents. We don't have workers' comp. Come on. No, we don't. Well, ask HR. Who's HR? I am HR. Oh, you are HR.

That's right. He's made the decision. This is great. This is great theater. Can we get someone? It could be a fan. Andrew Feldman, you're great with these. It could be anyone. We need a hype

video for this. Okay, but not too early, right? We're going to be in Philly. We'll get a face-off. We'll bring the contracts. Wait till we have more content. Wait till we have more content. Start working on it. We can just leave some spots. I need a date. I need a date. No, there's nothing to work on yet. We need the... Don't worry. Leave it in our hands. Alright. Executive producer.

Producer. Audio engineer. These other two are not coming. It right. Executive producer. Producer. That's right. Audio engineer. These other two are not coming. Yeah, there's levels. It's a big drop-off. Executive producer. Whoa, whoa. What, you're not participating, Frank?

No, it's just the fact that he's saying that's a demotion. Like, I wear this with that. No, no, no. No, no, no. The drop-off was from exec producer to producer. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's a way bigger drop-off to A2. Wow.

So are you taking him up on any of those recommendations? Yeah. I feel like you've got to go to Steve's now. The way Steve's has been thrown around. And what did he say is the best? Geno's? Angelo's. The ones we were talking about.

All right. So I think we might do four. So is it going to be Angelo's, Steve's? Shea's. Shea's. Skip Pat and Geno's. Don't do it. Okay.

No. What's the four? What's the four? He said. Alessandro's I have like 12 people A dozen people I know that live in Philly And I hit all of them up I said give me your top three

And like 10 of the 12 All of them had D'Alessandro's in there Alright that's a solid four The Mount Rushmore the four horsemen Of Philly cheesesteaks we're going to find out Okay and now here's the thing Have you mapped I know we're kind of Workshopping through this all now

But some of them are kind of I'm going to do that tonight Alright I'm going to do that tonight I'm going to start in the heart At the steps See Rocky Look at Rocky

I'm going to bike to Rocky Yeah I'm going to bike up the steps Bike up the steps And then Eat a cheesesteak And then Yeah

And then we're going to rip cheesesteaks Frank how do you feel about All this cheesesteak. And then, yeah, and then we're going to rip cheesesteaks. Frank, how do you feel about all this cheesesteak eating on Saturday? Many a times I have waited at a restaurant where Connor had to bow out from some digestive issue. So I'm kind of like already. This is such false bullshit. I can already tell he's cheering for Sean Brady. This is coming from the Brady camp.

It was the first one. It was the first one. You want to know the story i took a multivitamin on an empty stomach and i got real nauseous you ever you guys ever done that before the zinc everything no i got so nauseous i was like it had magnesium in it yeah it had don't take a multivitamin on the day that you go head to head don't don't take a daily vitamin on an empty stomach this was no gummy flintstones baby bs this was like the giant rock old man daily vitamin i was like i took it on down.

I was like, guys, I don't feel so good. They're like, what happened? I was like, I took a multivitamin on a completely. Yeah, it'll do it. Actually, not just a multivitamin. I also like downed a venti iced coffee as well. It was. Shrimp cocktail?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I had this shrimp cocktail for breakfast. Did you have fruit after? Did you have fruit for dessert? I had fruit for dessert after. Oh, boy. So one time. I love this. One time. I'm so happy you brought this up. have fruit after? Did you have fruit for dessert? I had fruit for dessert after. Oh, boy. So one time. I love this.

One time. I'm so happy you brought this up. I set the precedent the very first time. I was talking to my nutritionist, or is it diet? I don't know. My strength and conditioning. Nutritionist sounds more- Guru.

Fitness guru. Oh, guru's good. One day I will reveal who this man or woman is. And I actually brought up the fact that I am often mocked at my workplace over my stance towards having fruit after meals. And wouldn't you know it, he or she, they, pronoun they, backed me up.

What was the exact quote? How much are you paying them again? There was glycitrine mentioned, and lycocitrine and all these things. But he's like, of course, no one has fruit afterwards. Are you crazy? It's a death wish. No one has fruit. After dinner last night, slept like a

baby. Slept like a rock. I've been told by a nutritionist to eat cantaloupe. I'm gas. Bloating? No. What about... Did you at least think of the fact that it's sitting on top of the food? Rotting. After I finish dinner, I go to the sink. What about this? Did you at least think of the fact that it's sitting on top of the food? No. Rotting.

Rotting in your body. After I finish dinner, I go to the sink, I wash the berries, and then I shove them in my face like a caveman over the sink. Do you have anything to say about the science of its sitting, of the buoyancy of the fruit? I know the layer of rice, and then it sits. It starts to sprout a new frost. Is it true that there's green stuff coming out after? No joke. Ariel, ask them what happens if you swallow stuff coming out after? Yeah, yeah. No joke. Ariel, ask them what happens if you swallow a watermelon seed and just pour it back. And then it goes out of your mouth.

It'll actually grow a watermelon. I would like to see receipts, if I'm being honest. Up until the age of 11 or 12, I swear to God, my mom told me that if I bite my nails, a tree would grow out of my stomach. And I swear to God, I believed her. Now, the crazy thing is, the nasty work is the fact that I still bite my nails as a 42-year-old man. tree would grow out of my stomach and i swear to god i believed her now this part of you still believe this the nasty work is the fact that i still bought my nails as a 42 year old man that is crazy it didn't yeah no but how come some of these you have realized are not true but then some of them you go no no that's still that's still a thing well because i still do it and

there's no tree i don't i don't there's no sign of the tree so i've just come to the conclusion there's a tree you also think if you swallow gum, it'll stay in your stomach forever? Seven years. Oh, yeah. It gets stuck. Oh, just seven years. Stuck to like the walls of your stomach. It gets stuck to the fruit, and it just makes it rot quicker.

Let's get to some super chats. That was great stuff. Can we lock in a date, or is that on you guys? No, no, no. Not yet. Look. Doesn't he have a child? Hold on.

Contracts. Contracts. He's not going to be able to lock in a date. Connor can't be the one drafting the contracts. I, as the intermediary, I will bring the sides together. We will have contracts. We will figure out when the date is. We will make this happen.

And Sean Brady versus Connor Burks on the Averon bike. The final showdown, if we're being honest. I haven't had much competition. By the way, we have a poll right now, and it's legit 50-50. Respect for no extra time. 50 haven't had much competition. By the way, we're actually, we have a poll right now and it's legit 50-50. Respect for 50-50 at the moment. GC, Brady.

Damn, can't wait. I know what's coming. Shout out to Jason Carney, gifted five Helwani Show memberships. I can't wait until they're at Sean Brady's gym for Countdown

and as they're panning by, there's going to be a picture of fucking GC just in Bradyady's gym my bald ass is gonna be on the maru usman countdown and gc a cutout picture of gc's face is gonna be on brady's gym listen um i i thought you were going to say that you know when they do the countdown they they kind of recap the last six seven months this is part of it yeah sean brady uh wasn't active active since September or whenever it was,

but he did have a showdown on the Ariel Helwany show against Georgia Connor. It was a bike showdown to end all showdowns. The world stopped, and in the end, he faltered. GC gets a dub. Yeah. GC gets a dub, wow. Change your tune a little bit. Derek the Dad.

No, I'm worried about the decision to go to three minutes. Meant to ask this on Monday, but where did GC get the Schwab Bills jersey that he was wearing? Is that, was that his number? Who? Brendan Schaub. Did he play for the Bills? Yes. I thought he just played for the Jaguars and the.

He had a cup of coffee. Eagles? He had a cup of coffee. It wasn't. It wasn't 40. No way it was. No, I don't think it was 40. I couldn't find a picture of Brennan Chobb in a Bills jersey. Dave says, release the shadowboxing footage. Yes, there was a members-only

chat on Thursday. I actually have the shadowboxing footage because I tapped in randomly and it just tunes in to just. Don't say it. Just in case any haters come up. Don't say it. Don't show it.

Don't show it. Don't say anything more. Because I don't want people to truly be afraid. You know what I mean? Come on. You have to admit. The hands look lethal. No.

It's the sound. I actually was. We've picked up on the box balling. The bouncing the balls. Yeah, yeah. And like you're obviously. You mean Helwani boxing? Yeah, you always go back to Helwani boxing and everything. I actually was, we picked up on the box balling, the bouncing the balls. Yeah, yeah. And like you're obviously. You mean Helwani boxing? Yeah, you always go back

to Helwani boxing and everything. I mean, I kind of started I was watching your footage, man. I mean. Killed it. You got the ball at the chest. It's supposed to be at your waist. No.

You're doing little pads. Yeah. It's leaving six inches. Quick. Oh, man. That's not real shit. Come on. Timing, speed, precision, power.

Come on. You're just patty caking with it. I feel like she's picking athletic fights With everybody We were literally We were literally Doing Helwani boxing When you were in

Your father's nuts I will toast you In Helwani boxing Whenever I will leave you In the dust In the darkness Of the pandemic

We were bringing Light to people's lives Brady I'm speaking Everything into existence I'm giving myself The self belief Whenever you're ready Light

To get just Obliterated in the Helwani boxing i am ready to roll ready to roll this is from reza what's up boys israel and their neighbor have finally reached a ceasefire deal now how about ariel and balal it's time to set aside the beef heal old wounds and hug it out look i i thought we established this long ago i'm not the problem here i never was the problem here did we we not establish this already? We definitely did. I'm not the problem. I have tried to have him on. I have tried to bury the hatchet. He's the one who enjoys, in this regard, being the guy who's shoving it to the Jew reporter.

He's shoving it to the Zionist. He's shoving it up his bum. Oh, he's proving him wrong. He's proving that he doesn't know. You're not doing any of that. All you're proving is that you're in the wrong here because I've invited you. I've tried both privately and publicly. And for anyone saying, oh, publicly doesn't count. Well, how else am I supposed to get to him? His manager doesn't talk to me. His manager's people don't talk to me.

And all he does is talk bad about me and make up stories about me. I have invited him time and again. I have said there's an open invitation. So what more can I do? The deal is on the table. What more can I do? Is there anything more that I could do, Frank? Absolutely not.

What more can I do? But hopefully by now you all realize, everyone out there realizes that I am not in the wrong. That he is using this fictitious story as some sort of, I don't know. What is it? Is it for clout? What is it? What is it? What is it?

What is it? What is it, Frank? What is it? Jonah, can a New York vandal do something to that disgusting chode of a water tower in the back? Suggestions Big Red, A.H., Forest

Logo, remember the name, gout. Thank you for reading that one out loud. I don't know what that is. He's saying the water tower right behind you. Yeah, a little graffiti. I think it's kind of cool. That'd be kind of cool. A little forest logo graffitied on there. That'd be pretty cool.

Boston is Titletown. Sorry, Ariel. Nah, nah, don't read this. Who chose this one? Two-part question from Chase. For Ariel, Rick, and Pete C., you guys all witnessed Prime TJ. How do you think TJ versus Murab would play out?

And then PT, what are you hearing across the pond about Tom versus John? He's not here. TJ versus Murab would be very fascinating to me. Yeah, it would be. Again, TJ's cardio not in question. Probably better hands, right? Great wrestler. I think at his apex, TJ was probably one of the more well-rounded bantamweights,

and I could see him giving Murab some problems, and the cardio, as I said, not a concern on his end. I wouldn't hate that fight, but obviously TJ is far from that. Multiple shoulder surgeries, the long layup. It's not even fathomable. In their primes, though, that would have been a hell of a scrap. Would have been incredible.

TJ's performance against Hannon Burrata at UFC 173, one of the all-time great performances from a challenger in a title fight, especially one where a lot of people didn't think he had a chance. I do think in their primes, Murab's cardio, Murab's wrestling, Murab's everything wins out. Man. But I got to say. I think we're forgetting TJ's cardio.

We talk about the three-headed monster. It should be four-headed. It should be Cruz. It should be Dillashaw. It should be Aljo. It should be Murab. Well, I will say, there's a pretty solid reason which it's not, which is TJ tested positive.

Yeah, 125. Okay, but that... No, I know, there's a black cloud hanging over, but it was at flyweight. Yeah, no, it was for the Henry Cejudo fight. Look, to his credit, he has kind of been very open about what was happening there. He said he needed it to make that weight. That was that was very transparent. And he admitted it.

But I can understand why somebody would leave him off that list because of that. I mean, you know, there's other fighters who who have ingested things and been proven to be contaminated supplements. And people still don't even like want to put them into these kind of all-time conversations. I understand, but at 135, man, in his peak, TJ was a bad boy. I think he's somebody who could go cardio for cardio with Murab, if I'm being honest.

He's there. That's maybe too far. Murab's cardio is the next level, but he's up there. This is an interesting one from Not Mark. I got to be real. When this show started, I thought Pizzi was the lamest nepotism hire of all time, but I think he's great now and the crack is awesome.

Hell yeah, Not Mark. Way to wake up, man. Yeah. Also, yeah. Also, how could he be a nepotism hire? Pizzi's not your son? Yeah. Whoa.

Touch Grass says, i love you guys rick g says damn only one more return of the mac walkout that of course is uh referencing anthony smith who was amazing yesterday on the program just great stuff great insight and yes he did say that he uh he is calling it quits after his next one. One more in April. Maybe Miami should be on pay-per-view, I would think. If it's on the apex, oh my God, if it's at the apex, I riot. We all riot. Don't even speak that into existence. No one should retire at the apex.

There was that period there in 2020, 2021. Daniel Cormier retired at the apex. Anderson Silva retired at the apex. Crazy. know, 2020, 2021. Like Daniel Cormier retired at the Apex. Anderson Silva retired at the Apex. Crazy. He also, we also get this question from AZ Ray Videos. Is Anthony Smith the last strike force fighter in the UFC? That's a great question, but I feel like there has to be another one. Maybe. Is it possible? There's got to be another one. I keep thinking Derek Brunson, not in the UFC anymore. I guess it's possible.

Greatest Strikeforce fighters. Gilbert, Ronda, Dan, Jacare, Nick Diaz, DC, Hendo, Luke Rockhold, Jake Shields, Punk Thompson, yeah, it's possible. Going down the list here, Tapology has them ranked. Is he the last one left? OSP, I think he's done. OSP would be in there. Chandler. Chandler fought for Strikeforce. Strikeforce prelims. He wasn't really known as a Strikeforce guy, but Chandler did fight for Strikeforce. There it is. So I guess he's not.

How about that? That's why you're the best in the biz. Thanks, Frank. Appreciate it. Do we have... Lost my thing. Our next guest is in here, right. Appreciate it. Do we have... Lost by a day. Our next guest is in here, right? One sec. I mean, what does that mean?

Sorry, that was the wrong button. Oh. I mean, is he there or not? Oh, okay. All right, cool. I mean, why'd you have to go off air for that? I don't know, man. There's a lot of... Weird.

Fingers on a lot of pies. No, I understand that. I mean, listen. in your defense, there's a lot going on. Yeah. I mean, Sean Brady just showing up out of nowhere. No, that was amazing. That was unbelievable. In 30 minutes time, we're going to be joined by Jack Della Maddalena in Perth. He'll be waking up at 5.30, probably waking up before that, to talk about the big showdown against Leon Edwards, March 22nd. We realized this morning, 30th UFC UK event.

How about that? That's a huge deal. I hope they do it up. You know, bring back the old guys. Bring back Ian Freeman and bring back Dan Hardy and Tom Egan and everyone else. Bring back, I know Egan's from Ireland, Michael Bisping, Matt Hamill, Rampage Jackson, Mirka Krokop, Gabriel Gonzaga. You know, these guys headlined events in the UK. Anyway, so we'll talk to him about that in around 30 minutes time. And in a matter of seconds, unless we have him, okay,

in a matter of seconds, we are going to be joined, and we can be joined by him right now, by one of the most popular fighters in the UFC, former UFC middleweight contender. He's been in the news as of late, so very excited and always honored to be joined by the great Robert Whitaker. He's kind enough to be joining us from all the way in Sydney. Hello, Robert. How are you? Good. Thank you, mate. How are you?

Good morning. Good morning to you. What are we drinking on this fine morning? I've got a green smoothie here. Yeah. Okay. That's not matcha, right? Definitely not. And just some straight joe uh love it uh well you're looking good always crystal clear uh internet over there love the setup i i made the joke about the matcha of course because of the uh the clip with izzy was that your first we played it earlier is that your first time ever trying matcha yeah definitely definitely and you've. And you've got to take it from my perspective, right? Like we're trying to break bread, you know, hash everything out.

I sit down at the couch, ask me if I want a coffee. The coffee comes, it's green. Okay. Like I know poison when I see it. Yes. But no, it was cool. It was actually pretty nice. Amazing.

It was such, I have to say, I think it was a it was actually pretty nice amazing it was such i have to say i think it was a sunday night here in america i opened my phone and i see a photo of you two together in the gym you know arms around each other look at that i mean this warmed my heart and i think i speak on behalf of every mma fan on the planet you're two of the most lovable likable guys and you've had this rivalry and this feud whatever you want to call it these two great fights to see you guys out there as pals joking around hanging like training together this was lovely and so could i ask how did this all come about what are the embryonic stages of this yeah i guess so i was sitting down with my team you know with with jacob suffering an injury he was out and a

few of my other teammates have retired or gone different different through on different paths it was we were just lacking in bodies so we i sat down with my coach someone on we were kind of hashing out what the plan would be moving forward and we were like oh we could bring guys here we could do this we could do that and then started looking at um you know global oh, we could bring guys here. We could do this. We could do that. And then we started looking at, you know, global, like where we could go to do like little stints or put some training together. And honestly, I'm fortunate enough that we have good friends or good relations with just about everybody. So we could have gone everywhere.

You know, the States was a potential. But then like a flash of lightning, you know, we remembered city kickboxing, New Zealand is two and a half hours away it makes perfect sense just to to go there they have the bodies easy's there carlos is there hook is there like they have high level guys and you know i think we could stand to benefit a lot from making that relationship and and heading over and and let's be honest like me and easy we had our rival we had our time but there's a lot of, there's a lot of young blood now in the division. There's a lot of guys coming up.

The chances of us crossing paths again was just, it was super low to begin with, you know? So yeah, that, that's kind of where I had space was my, my, my coach reached out to Eugene said,

Hey, we're thinking about bringing some boys over. Let's, uh, let's chat. Let's see how we get along. and, and just for the record, who was the one that came up with the initial idea was it you or your coach it was it was it was my coach and your initial reaction to it like did you need a minute to let it sink in or were you on board right away well it was so it was so left field for me because

i guess i was so locked into my headspace, you know, that headspace of being rivals and just I didn't even think about it. It was like I was thinking of like places like L.A. and I was thinking of training at Miami and different places and I was looking at all the up in Asia as well, like where we could go to try and get some training in. And, you know, in some way I could take my family for the course of a month. But, yeah, it wasn't until he goes goes like he sits me down and he goes mate you know where we need to go and i honestly i couldn't i couldn't work it out like i was just so so blind like blinded to to that

possibility that is like city kickboxing and then i was like wow yeah i was i was very receptive straight away you know what i mean because yeah it makes it makes perfect sense like i i stopped i stopped having any sort of emotions over our rivalry years ago you know you put that behind you to the best of your knowledge when your when your team reached out to him and reached out to eugene city kickback were they on board right away yeah they they were super receptive super receptive Eugene was great to work with and because I think everybody everybody's on the same page you know like I said there's a lot of blood in the division to there's a lot of other people in the world to fight you know we we're two guys and um yeah

they were they were super receptive. They had the very same mentality as I had as well, which is like if we eat together, we fight together. And that's how I – I don't muck around like that either. So when we reached out, they were very receptive to us. We went over. They were all very welcoming. Everybody there was very welcoming you know my family was super stoked that i had that i was over there and i was uh you know i was gonna i was gonna be doing some training there so it was yeah it was good for everybody can i ask what those like initial moments were like when you first walked in like

are you feeling a little bit nervous like okay how's this gonna go how am i gonna be received what's that first interaction going to be like what were you feeling at that time uh i guess apprehensive is the word i i wasn't nervous but i didn't know what how things were going to be i didn't know if the first session we were going to line up if they'd have a have a crew of 20 guys ready to spar me ready to fight you know what i mean i but it was nothing like that you know i just i just slot in to to their to their sessions moving around helping izzy as much as i could um in any way he wanted i was moving with the other boys we were just kind of we were just training, you know, and it felt really natural and organic. Nothing was kind of forced.

And Izzy himself, he was probably the most receptive of everybody there. I think, you know, he was really open to the idea. I think he's, you know, I think we're just both in good places in our career right now. I love it. I mean, this footage is so incredible. When you're out there kind of going through the motions, sparring him, whatever, are you having any moments where you're like, holy shit, look how far we've come. This is crazy. Any like, wow, I can't believe, like any sort of out-of-body experiences that you're now buddies and in the training room with a guy that you've gone to war with twice yeah definitely i had that i had that when i was walking into his house when i was walking into his house uh satellites cash he was asking me if i wanted anything eight i was like oh man where am i right now how how did we get here because yeah it's uh it was a

yeah it was it was kind of it was surreal to to finally sit there, especially because we had such – because Australia and New Zealand, like we – it's us versus everybody else. But when it gets down to it, we kind of like being rivals as well, you know. And that kind of rivalry just, I don't know, set the stage for a long leg between me and Izzy. So it was good to finally hash that out I bet back in like 2019 or so the mere like sort of mention of this idea you'd say over my dead body right like you wouldn't even like entertain the idea of going there and hanging out with him and training with him right

it was that personal at one time I wouldn't say it was personal but i'm pretty sure in 2019 if i could have hit him with my car i would have i just just like yeah not not kill you like a little bump you know yeah yeah yeah yeah it was there was no love lost there like not back then incredible um so in total how many times how many training sessions well this was just a really short stint. We only went for five days. Just honestly, more importantly than the training was, do we get along? Like, will this work? Are people like, can everybody bury the hatchet?

And can we get to this idea and get the training that we need to get done? And honestly, it was, everyone was so receptive. We have heaps of skill sets that they can benefit from and vice versa. They have lots of bodies because they're a bigger MMA dedicated gym. So it was just, yeah, I think we both stand to gain a lot from this relationship, and I'm very super, super happy to have made the connection. You're going to be going more often?

Potentially, yeah. So obviously I do my camps here at Gracie's Meat and Granch, and I've got the team there, but I can work on skill sets here. I do look to head over to New Zealand and talk to Eugene and those guys and do stints. I'm not sure how we're going to structure that out yet. I'm going to speak to my coach and organize what the training here looks like.

But definitely going back there to do some work with the bodies and Izzy and everybody else there. And when you're there, are you being coached by Eugene or is your coach coaching you while you're there? It's both. You know what I mean it both so the the first leg we were kind of just feeling the air you know i was just slotting into their sessions i wasn't kind of doing any specific work for any specific agenda but i'm sure moving forward my coach and eugene will sit down

and they'll chat and they'll they'll work out what's needed for any upcoming opponents that that i'm that i'm going to be facing and we'll work something out okay well by the way what what kind of like surprised you most about izzy on a on a personal now that you got to hang out with him and be in the gym being his home was there something about him that surprised you maybe he's jujitsu like i think it's it's much better than people give him credit for you know interesting so i'm i'm looking forward to see how that how that translates into his next fight like he's yeah he's i i don't know how he's kept it on the down low so long but wow yeah much better than it than it than everybody gives him credit for okay yeah he's kept it on the down low so long, but yeah, much better than what he gives him credit for. Okay, yeah, he's talked about wanting to get a sub in the UFC in the last few fights. So I like to hear that.

Any chance of seeing you corner him on February 1st when he fights Imovov? No, I think the relationship's moving too far for that right now. Let's slow it down a bit. Oh my God. What a scene that would be. Well, I know, right? It's, no, he's got his team, I've got mine. And we're still creating that relationship.

Like we're friends now. So I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes. Are we text friends now? Or are we sending back messages, DMs, anything like that? Memes? I'm not much of a texting guy anyway all right i get i get i get tired you've seen our text messages ariel yeah no they're quick to the point but you're quick you're a quick replier we yeah we text back and forth maybe three or four times and then we're like okay that's cool that's it yeah we're done

all right i didn't know i'm not izzy you know I didn't share the octagon with you. So I don't know if it's different. That's how I am across the board. All right. Fair enough. Well, it's lovely. It's lovely to see you guys friends. And I would imagine now, and I think you've talked about this, but just want to make clear, like if for some reason the stars align and they watch, you're not fighting him now, right?

Is that it? We're done? No. I don't fight people I eat with. It's just how I am. Okay. Like I said, there's lots of people to fight. He doesn't have the belt right now.

There's lots of people to fight. So much young blood right now coming up. Yeah, the division is so volatile, so fluid right now. Yeah. Yeah. This might be a tough question to answer because he's now your best mate, but how do you feel about the fight against Imavov? How do you see it playing out for him?

Yeah, well, and like I said, I'm very biased with all my picks and predictions and breakdowns as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But honestly, he's a hard dude to bet against, period.

He's striking, his space control is just really next level. I thought he looked really good in that Drikus fight as well, maybe one of the better versions of himself. Now, Drikus is a very hard guy to fight, and I think it shows more how good Drikus is rather than what Izzy did wrong. Yeah, I think Ivovov's got a really hard fight on his hands just because every fight starts standing. Izzy's probably one of the better strikers out there in the world right now.

And his space control, his length, and his ability to counter and just make you pay for any sort of inch you take is a real threat. Can't wait for that. Great to see you back. Great to see you here. Great to see you in great spirits. Last time we saw you, of course, was in October. And that was tough to watch, especially for all your fans.

And you have such a loyal and diehard fan base. Could I ask, how is the mouth doing? How are the teeth doing how are you feeling overall yeah i'm i'm good i'm good the the healing process was much faster than than i think everybody expected just because like i said i i i those i had i was sick of those teeth anyway you know so i just got rid of them and then got some implants put in and honestly the healing process took was like really quick it was all seamless and i was back in the gym like four weeks after oh wow and how many teeth total did you replace

um maybe six i took out on on the on the on the bottom yeah the bottom row right is it possible to even describe what that felt like um well i've had it i've had it done a couple times you know this wasn't the first fight that this has happened in this is the first fight that it was done so bad you know but it wasn't the first fight that this has happened in. This is the first fight that it was done so bad. But it wasn't the first time they've been moved in. But it doesn't hurt as much as – well, it does hurt. But it doesn't hurt as much as – it just feels weird because your teeth aren't where they should be. It's a weird feeling. It hurts more trying to get him set again after the fact that that's

that's the worst feeling wow so the after the aftermath is worse than in the moment yeah yeah yeah definitely but um it's like it's it's also one of those things you can't really fight through you can't like i would have choked on my teeth you know what i mean the like the mandible had moved into the like the middle of my mouth there's yeah i don't yeah can't fight through that the amazing thing is i remember the next day you posted something saying like you know i'm all good i'm gonna go on vacation and and what i always tell people about fighters is like if something like that happened to me or someone else like a just a regular like if something like that happened to me or someone else like a just a regular civilian if something like that happened whatever that thing was we would say yeah i'm

never doing that again and there you are 12 hours later with a smile on your face waiting to go back home being like yeah i'll see you guys soon i'll be right back in there that to me is like one of the many reasons why you guys are just different than us you possess different dna you're you're wired differently. There wasn't any part of you that was like, F this. I've done enough fights. I don't want to go through the rehab. I don't want to get hit there, whatever.

There wasn't any thought after that of being like, I'm done with this crap. Yeah. No, it's just that's just part of the sport. It's part of the business. You get intimate with that relationship real quick. And let's be honest, like most of the time, you're trying to hurt your opponent. I'd love it. I'd love it if he was the one injured.

But some days you're the hammer, some days you're the nail. I got a lot of stick after that fight, Rob, because I was quite blunt. I don't usually make predictions, but I was so confident. I said that you were going to run through him, that it was going to be such an easy fight for you that he would not stand a chance i just there was something about your demeanor all week and uh and so i had your back and i still have your back i just want to let you know um i'm just go ahead yeah i i appreciate that i appreciated that a lot and honestly i felt amazing i felt amazing i understand that the it didn't head in the direction that i wanted it to but i felt great that and that's kind of the more disappointing

thing than than losing the fight then hurting my teeth and all that it was just that i didn't get to and this was all due to his part like you know great game plan did what he did, right? But I didn't get the opportunity to show what, how far I had come, the distance I had traveled skill-wise from the fight prior. So yeah, sorry about that, dude. No, no, listen, it's all good. It's all like, I hate these people who are like, I bet on you, my parlay, that's absurd.

I just felt like this was a bad matchup for him and you seem to be in a tremendous space. You seem switched on. And so I'm just wondering, what surprised you of anything about Hamzat? Was there something about being in there? We hear about his strength. We hear about his speed, the takedown.

Was there something about it? You're like, wow, this is better than I thought. It was the takedown. Yeah. Like the wall wrestling and everything else was was just part of the parcel you know i got caught with that face crank but that was just part of the grappling the wall grappling transition that happened okay like he was sticky but we had trained for sticky guys like you know like he was he was really really good at at gut ranching you know

the the drag downs and just holding that position. We knew this. I trained for it. I got ragdolled there most of the camp, okay? So I was comfortable there. Getting caught, the face crack, didn't expect that. Like thought I'd have more time, did not. But it was the initial takedown, I guess, that surprised me the most

because the guy shot from like two meters away and was like honestly a foot off the ground maybe. And it was just – it's hard to defend. You know, the only thing I can think of in hindsight, which is great, right, is more lateral movement so that he can't get a reading. You can't go straight back up because once you hit that fence, he reaches for the ankles and then use just starts that, that wrestling chain,

that wrestling transitions into the, into the wall. It's, but that initial takedown is hard to stop. I really, really hard to stop. I should have probably taken center a bit more, you know,

not gone straight back. A lot of things. Hindsight's 2020, right? Right, right, right, right. We don't know who he'll be fighting next. hard to stop i should have probably taken center a bit more you know not gone straight back a lot of things hindsight's 2020 right right right um we don't know who he'll be fighting next it seems like he's going to fight for the belt against the winner of ddp versus strickland do you think uh he has a great chance against either guy like do you see any scenario of you know that fight the winner like being a tougher matchup for him or do you think he rolls through either of them i think he beats both of them. I do.

I think Drikus would be the harder opponent of Sean and him just because if Drikus survives, he's kind of – Drikus is just good at surviving, at being there. And if we've seen anything with Chamayev, it's that he gets tired committing so heavily to his shot and the grappling transitions early in the fight. So maybe that plays out differently if it gets dragged out later. I don't see him having a problem with Sean, though, like at all.

Wow. Do you think DDP beats Sean next month again? I do. I do. I do. I've seen those things where Sean's like, let's stand and fight like men. Drinkers is going to take me straight down. That's the sport.

That's what I do. Right. Yeah, it's good. It's good. I'm excited to see it. But my biggest thing with that matchup was just what can Sean do differently to change the outcome last time? So he was the champion and he still got a – granted controversial,

but he lost the decision fight as a champion. And now they're going back in the same sort of matchup pairing, but he's not the champion now and what has he what can he do differently sean fights like sean fights you know i don't think we're going to see him fight much differently than with the way the way we saw him fight last time granted it's a very effective fight style but i don't know he he just barely lost the last one and he was champion and now i don't know i think drickus has gotten better if anything yep definitely i think a lot of people would say that and gone a lot further than a lot of people probably thought by the way um were you a little

bit annoyed with dc for showing the photo of of your mouth i was super annoyed. Oh, wow. Why? Because it's such a scummy thing to do. It's like the doctor took a photo of my mouth, right, and said, I'm just going to go show Dana so that he knows what's up. I'm the level, Dana and Hunter. I was like, cool, do that. And then DC took a photo off the other guy's phone to post all over socials. It's like, is that not scummy? You were pissed.

I didn't know how he got it. I thought someone said, I thought you, I don't know. So knowing the story, yeah, he probably shouldn't have done that. So you see that in the aftermath and you're like, what the fuck? You didn't want that out there. It's not that, I don't care that much. Okay. It's just it looked, I want to say it looked worse than it did.

Wow. Most people would say it kind of looked really bad, right? The thing is though, because I was posting all over the place, I was getting like condolence messages. Like people thought i was dead and like i i didn't i would have liked to control the reaction a little better but it is what it is you know what do you want to do you just roll with the punches what did your kids say when they saw you for the first time um i can't remember maybe like how's your teeth yeah like let me see your Maybe like, how's your teeth?

Yeah. Let me see your teeth. Let me see your teeth. Yeah, they were cool. It's funny because like the whole month, even now, my youngest does it. But when we say grace, they all pray for my teeth to get better. Oh, wow. That is still, even though you're fine now, right?

Like you could spar no problem? Yeah, yeah. I've been sparring and everything. And I don't have them anymore. So there's nothing to get better, right? That's right. But it's so cute. I just leave it.

I leave them to it. I love that. I absolutely love that. I wonder how you feel about the fact that the UFC is going back to Australia next month. Their last trip was sandwiched in between your last two fights. It seems like the timing never seems to work out for you. Is this annoying?

I think your last time fighting there was in 2019, right? Yeah. The timing for fighting in Australia has been off for me. I don't know what it is. It's almost like they wait till i have a fight booked somewhere and they're like okay now we'll go but it is what it is you you can the only thing that i can um i can conclude is that they don't like there's two there's a lot of people doing different jobs and none of them communicate you would think that you would be a big part of those plans, but it's such a machine.

It's such a behemoth. Yeah. You know, like they were in LA this past weekend and the main event is a Russian against an Armenian who then becomes a Brazilian and a Georgian against a Russian in the country. You don't really need a local favorite, but I would love at least one more time has to happen right this this has to be on the list of things you want to do right no definitely definitely this i want to fight back at home for one but one of my big ones is i want i want to fight in japan oh wow i want to fight japan i don't think ufc's been going back to japan for a while since it's been pre-covid yeah since covid right yeah um i would love to fight in Japan.

That's my dream before I wrap things up. I want to fight in Japan. Okay. And you said back in November you were shooting for like a June return. Is that still the plan? Yep. That's still the plan. I've been working on a lot of new skill sets.

I took a bit of time off during the Christmas break just to train lightly, to spend some time with the family. But I'm looking for a June return. I'm going to ease back into this and come in and hit the ground running sort of thing. Anyone being discussed? No, not yet. With the division the way it is, there's so much going on at the top

of the chain that the rankings might not look the same next month right so let's let's just see what's going on and see what's up do you have a preference no i don't no one i'm looking now i'm trying to see there's uh well there's you know the winner of izzy versus imavov uh would make a lot of no i'm just kidding i'm kidding this joke is um you know who i'd like to fight i like to fight chamayev again would make a lot of sense. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. That's a joke. You know who I'd like to fight? I'd like to fight Tchamayev again. Oh, okay.

I want to rerun that. Legit, you're being serious, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you know what? I don't want to try and jump him before he gets his title. Dude deserves it. He's been fighting a lot of guys in dominant fashion.

But one day, I'd like to cross paths with him you know like i said looking at that fight hindsight working out all these different ways to avoid the takedown to do things differently um yeah i think that i don't know maybe it's just the fighter in me you know the competitor in me i want to i want to try and get that back so i'd love to i'd love to run that against him one day as well i would love that as well and i would love that as well. And I would feel just as confident going into that fight as I did in the first fight. Just want to let you know. This is why you're my favorite, Doug.

Oh, thank you. Oh, wow. Thank you, Rob. Can I just ask you before I let you go? Did you happen to see your old foe, Darren Till, win in boxing this past weekend? Did you see that? Yes. I watched a highlight breakdown highlight breakdown like a nine

minute highlight thing which is practically the whole fight because it was four rounds right yeah um i just saw it uh just last night just last night what'd you think can i say he looks significantly better than the fight prior okay like i don't know he looked it looks good he made the guy who's fighting just look like a chump. Was, was this his debut in, in pro boxing now? So technically, yes, he,

he had some kind of fight in, um, in the United Arab Emirates. Oh, over the summer, it, it lasted like a round and a half and it was against some non fighter, if you will.

So this kind of feels like his debut. It was a whole brawl. I don't even think it lasted around, to be honest. I think it lasted like two minutes. So this, this to of feels like his debut it was a whole brawl i don't even think it lasted around to be honest i think it lasted like two minutes so this this to me felt like the debut he's supposed to fight tommy fury fury pulled out anthony taylor much smaller than him so it was hard to get a a real read but i thought he looked pretty good not sure about the socks i don't know if you saw the socks the black socks yeah i did see i did i did see the socks i thought they were a funny um funny fashion choice.

But I don't know. Boxers sometimes dress funny. He's a boxer now. Is he a boxer now? Do you think he should stick with this? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I think he's obviously having some success.

He looks better going to that last fight. It looked like he had trained with it properly. I think he looks like he was holistically in a better place. you know that's all you kind of want for the guy right he's um still got that left down the pipe right check hook right yeah yeah guys guys still very dangerous you can say that but yeah i just wish him all the success you know it's just good to see him on a positive spin yes couldn't agree more uh one last question for you, and then we'll let you go. Australian boxing doing tremendous right now. George Kambosis has a big fight coming up.

Sky Nicholson, the Olympian. And what about Jaya Pattaya? Your pal, we saw you guys sparring. I think it was before the Hamzat fight. Best cruiserweight in the world. Hopefully getting a notification about. Would love to maybe see him fight Usyk at some point at heavyweight could you just tell me like what is it he is he is he is a scary man his his knockout two weeks ago vicious stuff what is it like being in the ring with jai

uh terrible for me great for him okay okay the the guy is something special like really really special he yeah he's going to go the whole way and i can only like i knew the outcome of his last fight before it happened that's sort like that sort of confidence he um yeah he he's so switched on in the practice room he's so switched on and you can see how switched on he is in the fights themselves he's yeah he's he's the whole parcel and mate like i said it wasn't a fun day of sparring for me it was amazing seeing you both in there and he's a big boy too i mean he could fight at heavyweight probably uh but just seeing you two i don't i don't know if the boxing fans appreciate just how like special it was for me i was like, this is amazing seeing Rob in there with Jai,

who I think is going to be a legend just as you are in your sport. So really cool to see two Australian fighters together from the two different worlds. Thank you so much, Rob. Really appreciate it. Always appreciate the early chats over there. Summertime in Australia, so enjoy the time, the nice weather. I saw, by the way, it was like 43 Celsius or something. Is that what's going on? Yeah gets it gets hot in summer here you know but i

i don't know i feel like i've grown grown into it i i like it now you know i love the heat sweltering heat i don't know it makes me feel strong i i just want to let you know over here in new york it's like a negative 11 celsius at the moment yeah so well enjoy it enjoy it yeah uh those pictures all that was tremendous well done to both you and izzy thanks for coming on as always and glad to hear you're feeling better thank you very much for having me mate pleasure as always there he is the great robert whittaker uh co-host of the MMA Arcade podcast. Highly recommend that one. As always, always a lovely, lovely time with him. And again, I hope we remember that scene with him and Izzy.

Can someone not jot this down when we do the awards in about 11 months? That has to be a contender for feel-good story, feel-good moment of the year. My flag is okay guys i get excited i've had izzy john i did izzy drickus izzy rob is definitely going to be my contention that's right the izzy uh i love the izzy like teaming up with guys yes that would never happen i love that i love it all right uh love the fact that our next guest is is doing this interview at uh i believe 5 34 a.m per Perth time. When I was talking to Tim, his manager, about this, I'm like, I don't want to ask him to wake up this early.

And he assured me that he's up at this time. So let's ask the man himself. He's the man who'll be headlining the 30th UFC event in the UK on March 22nd against the former champion Leon Edwards. He's Don Giacomo himself. Jack de la Maddalena. It's been a while. Is he there? There he is. Hello, Jack.

How are you? Good. Thanks, Aaron. How are you going? There's no way. Like Tim told me he's up at this time. He has a new kid. I was like, Tim, come on.

He assured me. Do you hate me right now? It's 5.30 over there. No, I'm normally up at 5.30. It's normally my get up time. Little Franco gets up 5.30 on the dog pretty much every'm normally up at 5.30. It's normally my get-up time. Little Franco gets up 5.30 on the dog pretty much every morning. Okay, so you're all good. So no, it's all good, yeah.

Happy days, the sun's up. Summertime over there. How hot is it over there in Perth? It's hot in Perth, yeah. 40s, it's been 40 degrees Celsius most days. Incredible. Congratulations on the second addition to the family as far as children are concerned i saw a great photo uh i believe there was a little bit of uh projectile on your face from the young one yeah yeah yeah there we go yeah that's yeah that was a solid shot i think fr Franco got me with the same shot when he was about that age as well.

Oh my gosh. And this young man, your newest son, I love his name. Daughter. Daughter, excuse me. Paloma. Paloma Billy. Yep. Can you tell me the inspiration behind the name?

My wife really liked the name Paloma. She was sort of sitting on it for a good few months during the pregnancy and it's quite a nice name I thought but I haven't heard it too it's not a very common name yes I think it's quite a I think it's quite a like pretty common and I have an Argentinian friend and he said it's pretty common in Argentina, but nice name. Beautiful name. Actually, a member of our team said that it was popular in the Spanish countries, if you will, the Hispanic countries. And so we were wondering if you had any ties to that, but apparently not.

You just like the name. Just like the name. I love it. I love it. And so how old is she now? She's six months, six months. Yeah, pretty much six months to the day, basically. Okay. All right. So you're, you're, you know, you're, you're well into things now. You've got two kids and you're returning. By the time you return, it will be a little over a year since

we last saw you, Jack. And so I want to get to the Leon fight in a moment, but what a past year for you, my friend, you, you, you had that amazing win over Gilbert Burns and then a bunch of trials and tribulations can you can you walk us through what you've been dealing with up until this point yeah well I just left the fight with a broken arm so I was just sort of got back to Perth straight after the fight and had a surgery as the surgeon said that's probably the best way to go about it and it was pretty much it was just meant to be a pretty easy surgery it was just the snap on uh put a plate in but after the surgery got it became infected like uh the the wound started like uh de-hissing after like 10 days so It was just splitting and just oozing stuff.

That was probably after the second surgery. Okay. Yeah, maybe after the third surgery. But after 10 days originally, it just started splitting and the whole scar top to bottom was just splitting and oozing. Yeah, it was just an infection. I think just unlucky infection as well how many how many surgeries total yeah four surgeries damn four surgeries the last two were pretty much back-to-back

surgeries i think two days apart okay but yeah four surgeries all up and when it's opening up like that how much pain are you in uh it wasn't actually too much pain associated with it. Outside the bone itself, like it wasn't too painful. It just was nasty looking, kept splitting. And then, yeah, like that other picture you showed, like the abscesses just kept popping up and then oozing stuff. And then, yeah, the doctor, oh the surgeon basically said that yeah the bone itself is infected so that the uh yeah the infection is coming from the bone and then just

coming up through the skin so it's pretty nasty what's going on over here in this picture that was i think after the third surgery i had to just rather than then like so they cut it open for the third time and then they after that surgery he removed the plate and they scraped bone and sort of cleaned it out. And then they just put a vacuum, rather than stitching it up, they just put a vacuum seal pack which just sucked out some of the blood for two days. And then two days later, he went back in there, put a plate in there and then sewed it up. Dang. And so ultimately, what was the initial issue? Was it the plate wasn't put in the right way?

Like, what happened? They just, there's, I think he basically said there's always a risk of infection in surgery. So it can happen. I was, I did have like a staph infection leading into the uh the fight with gilbert so i was on antibiotics and he said sometimes if you have antibiotics you're the basically the bugs if the bugs can get immune to immune to the antibiotics so then there's high chances of infection oh wow if you just have it if you've just been on a course of antibiotics and then you have a surgery there's high risk because a lot of the bugs

are basically just immune to those sort of antibiotics. I think something along those lines. What point in the flight did you break your arm? I don't know. I don't really can't pinpoint it. I'm not sure. How was that flight home? That's a long trip home with a broken arm. Yeah, it was pretty sore, the flight. I had a couple of glasses of wine, a couple of painkillers,

and then I just sort of slept it off. But it was sore. It was definitely painful straight after the fight. And it was here that you broke it? Yeah, the ulna. Pretty much straight there. Smaller bone in the forearm, basically. Okay.

And that's the arm right there. It looks great. Yeah, it's feeling really good. It's pretty much back to 100% strength. Okay. When did you get to 100%? How long did that take? 100% strength, probably probably it took a while i reckon probably november october

november last year i was sort of sitting pretty pretty sure i mean october november last year i started picking up the training pretty rapidly and then it probably wasn't until late december where i really started that being able to spar a bit harder take a couple of kicks but I'm sure you know when you have to go back under the knife multiple times this is all very your career is soaring it's frustrating right but then in addition to all of that the UFC is in Perth in August and I'm sure you wanted to be on that card how how how frustrating was this all to to witness and you can't take part in it as you're now becoming one of the biggest stars out of Australia?

Yeah, it's so frustrating. But it was because it was like the plan obviously was to fight in March. I had word that the UFC was coming to Perth. So it was definitely like the next step in the career. But I guess that's just the sport we're in you know it's a it can be a risky game and you've just got to expect expect the worst so although it was frustrating I just just I just took it on the chin took it on the chin and just kept kept pushing and and so then you probably thought okay you know there's there's rumors of a return in February

maybe I'll be on that one. Was there any talk of you being on the Sydney card? Yeah, yeah. I was really – then I was like the next step is Sydney. And then, yes, being able to start sparring in like December. I was picking up sparring pretty well in December. So then I was thinking, yep, definitely, like, we'll fight in Sydney. But then,

I just couldn't get the fight. None of the guys in front of me wanted to really fly out to Sydney. Was there anyone that would look close? Was there any talks of someone that, you know, that it seemed like

maybe you'd get that fight? I mean, not really. None of the guys in front of me the we started me and not the ufc never came to us but me and tim started floating the idea i didn't mind the idea of finding carlos prices so i thought why not like he's an up and comer gilbert gave me the opportunity i've had a year off so i was gonna i was probably ready to step in and fight him. I like his style. But then the UFC, the first fight they came to me,

they said, would you rather just fight, would you do want to fight Leon in London? I just thought, yeah, let's just take the fight. It's a big fight, former champion. Gives me an extra few weeks to assure that the arm's strong and had to jump on it. Okay. Yeah. I was just going to ask then what was your reaction? I would imagine maybe it softened the blow of not being on Sydney and Perth to get the headline 0-2 against

former champion Leon Edwards in his backyard. That's a massive spot for you, right? So I would imagine you're feeling better about things. Yeah, for sure. You know, it's a big spot for you right so i would imagine you're feeling better about things yeah for sure you know it's a big spot i like london my coach is from london leon former champion headlining a card like i'm yeah it's a big one for me i'm excited you know it's a perfect fight to set up a good year if i can take out the former if i can take out the former champion in impressive fashion, then I think it lines up. I remember when Tim Simpson, manager to the Stars, was in our studio right after he announced the launch of his own agency,

the Chosen Advisory Group, and he said, we're a boutique agency and we like to to have just you know one athlete in every division there is one division though where we have two and it's welterweight it's leon and jack and so now here he is with two of his guys and i know he loves both of you very much fighting each other any truth to the rumor that tim tried to deter you guys from fighting so he wouldn't be caught in between no no truth to it i think it's the first fight that Tim was offered. I think in the back of his mind, he's always thought it could happen, you know.

Two top welterweights. He was obviously hoping Leon would be the champion for a few years, and hopefully I was coming up into that championship contention, I guess, while he was champion. But yeah, he's always thought it was going to happen. But no, I think it was the first fight that came across. I think he sort of knew they could hit him with that one.

And yeah, I think he was ready for it. But I think it just makes sense. It makes sense for Leon. It makes sense for me. So yeah, I think it's a good fight. Two strikers headlining a big card. Fantastic fight. I don't know if you look at these things,

but you're the favorite. You're the betting favorite going into the fight. Did you know this? No, I didn't. I didn't. But you know what? I don't really take too much from that. I guess they just look at the last performances,

and a lot of people think Leon didn't really show up in the last performance. I guess that's where that's from. Were you surprised by that result against Bilal? Not necessarily. Not necessarily. Nah, Leon tends to stand back a bit, and Bilal is always going to be the sort of guy that's going to push a solid pace. So I think, yeah, I wasn't super surprised.

Okay. So you were actually thinking Bilal was going to win? Oh, maybe. No, I didn't really. I didn't really have a pick, to be honest. I personally, yeah, I thought Leon would be the more crisp striker than Bilal and maybe be able to land some good strikes, but no, it didn't happen.

But I wasn't surprised. I honestly don't really know what to expect in fights, I guess. Anyone can win, you know? Have they told you that if you beat Leon in March that you would be next, that you would get the winner of Shafkat versus Bilal? No, not,

nah, they haven't said that. I think, nah, I think that, I think their plan is to make this sort of like a title contention fight, but I guess they never, they never lock anything in because I think it's very much performance based

as well. Yeah. In my opinion, I think if I go in there and have a close split decision win over Leon and then someone else has a big performance, they might put them in front of me. Has that crossed your mind?

Like, let me go in there, do something great, and I become number one contender? Do you think it's a possibility for you? I think so, yeah. I think I want to go in there and prove a number one contender, do you think it's a possibility for you? I think so, yeah. I want to go in there and prove a point. Prove a point that I could do to Leon what Bilal couldn't do. Secure the shot.

It's going to be hostile there. You like that? You like being the guy that everyone's rooting against? You're a pretty mild-mannered guy, so I'm wondering how you're going to feel about being booed vociferously. No, it doesn't bother me. I've fought and my opponent's got booed, so you know why. It's just something that you've got to be, yeah, it is what it is.

It doesn't bother me at all. Can I ask Shavkat Bilal, who do you like in that one? It's an interesting fight. I'm not sure. I think Bilal's had it. I think Sh. I'm not sure. I think, Bilal's had, I think Shabka will get him. I think just maybe too,

too, yeah, maybe too aggressive, too much of a solid finishing ability. But then even in his last fight, he didn't really show that side of his fighting style. So I'm not sure. I think maybe the wrestling will be,

it might stay on the feet. I think the wrestling might counteract each other. And then I think below might get him to be honest. I think below might just be able to, he has an awkward style and he might just be able to, yeah, I think below actually might beat him. And that's just based on, just chef cat's last performance i was just gonna say that gary sorry gary is a tall striker

so it's a different sort of matchup but i think but i think below has does have a good chance to be chef cat my my my read on the situation is a lot of people going into the gary fight thought chef cat was going to roll through gary then roll through Bilal. Oh my god, he's going to get to Bilal and he's the boogeyman. And then after that performance with Ian taking him the distance and hanging in, that a lot of people have now switched over to Bilal, that they feel like Shafqa isn't as tough. And I don't know if that's a, that feels kind of disrespectful towards Ian, because maybe they didn't feel like he could hang with someone like Shufcut. But I've noticed a lot of people now picking Bilal against Shufcut when they weren't doing so a couple months ago. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

I think obviously, yeah, I think everyone just sort of, it's the last performance is sort of what you've done for me recently. Business, everyone just looks at the last performance. But could say i could see how both yeah it's going to be it's an interesting fight i'm interested to see how it how how it goes um just curious seeing all these guys fight over the last few months and and you know brady's moving up and buckley's moving up and and ian's doing his thing in Shufcut, were you worried that you were going to be forgotten about? Are you itching to get back in there to remind everyone who JDM is?

Yeah, I'm itching to get back in there for sure. For sure, yeah. And I think it's good for the division. It's really opening up. There's a lot of moving parts of the division now. I think all in all, it's better for the division. It's better for the division, but yeah, I really want to get back in there. Show everyone that I am

the man in this division. I plan to put on a good performance and secure the title shot. Before I let you go and go back to being a dad, just curious, were there any talks of Usman and Covington? We saw your names, your name linked to their names.

Was there any talk of that before the Leon fight got secured? Yeah, there was talks. For a little bit there, I thought Usman was the man. I thought I was going to fight Usman. I don't think it was a...

I can't remember if it was an actual... if the UFC actually said... I think they made... it was talks. I don't think it was ever anything serious. But I did say, yeah, I'm good to fight Usman in Sydney. I thought that would have been good. But then that fell through, and then the real

only fight offer I got was the Leon fight. Okay. It worked out. Yeah. It's all good Leon fight. Okay. It worked out. Yeah. It's all good. Worked out. Worked out. And by the way, congrats.

Black belt. And on the same day, your brother got his brown belt. Yep. What a time. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's amazing. Look at you with the hand being held up over the arm.

You're in like some kind of split. What's holding your arm up there? Is it another belt? I think it's just an exercise band. And you got the black belt because of the performance against Gilbert. Yep, yep. Love it. I think the coach had the black belt ready to go,

and he was just waiting to see if I could pull it together. Just waiting for a good performance, I think. I love it. Well, welcome back. Good luck in training. It's actually two months from today, March 22nd at the O2 in London. What a fight. Massive, massive opportunity for you.

Good luck. Thanks for doing this once again so early. Congratulations on the new baby, on the black belt, on everything going on in your life and very much looking forward to your return to the UFC in just two months' time. There's the line right up there.

Thanks, Eric. So thank you so much, Jack. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Hope you're well. Cheers for your time. All right, there he is. Jack Della Maddalena,

the man who will be going in there you well. Cheers for your time. Alright, there he is. Jack Della Maddalena. The, you know, the man who'll be going in there on March 22nd at the O2 Arena, trying to take down the now former champion in his first fight back. Leon's first fight since July, I think it was 27th when he fought Bilal Mohamed at the

Co-op Live. You know, we mentioned Jack Della waking up early. I mean mean that's the time that leon fought 5 30 why did my voice crack just there that was weird uh yeah it was bullshit it was bullshit so but thomas he looked good patty looked good no i i let me let me be clear i'm not saying that this like balal muhammad had to fight at the same time and did his job yes it's not a it's not an excuse for leon edwards for the loss nobody should have been fighting at the time that's the bullshit nobody should have been fighting at the time

fans shouldn't have been in an arena at that time to have to stay up to watch that that's the bullshit oh my god yes not, the performance was the performance. Correct. That, that, Bilal looked amazing at that time. It's, it's not an excuse. It's just, nobody should have had to fight then

and nobody should have been forced to watch it at that time. Bullshit. Yeah, those, those tickets are not cheap. Yeah. And, uh, whatever they were,

how much, how much you paid them, like, to, to stay up till 4 a or 5am in an arena. I don't even know. I know in a lot of cities in England, the tube shuts down, but I guess it was so early that it probably, you know, cause like some of the events have to end by a certain time because they shut down the subway system. But I guess if this is like happening at 536, it's probably starting back up, right?

I think it shuts down from like one to five or something like that. That's how early it was in the morning. Can't wait for that fight though. That is a great one. Looking forward to seeing how Leon responds, how he bounces back. And what an opportunity for Jack Della,

who I know GC loves. Yeah, man. He's a whole home guy. He's just chilling. He's just chilling know GC loves. Yeah, man. He's a whole home guy. He's just chilling. He's just chilling. He's just chilling, man. He's just waking up at 5.30. Yeah, you know, I'm up at this time.

He was up. Black belt, brother, brown belt. Yeah, no problem. Yep. Pretty cool. Yeah, it is cool. Yep. 7-0 in the UFC.

Five by way of stoppage. Four in the first round. Y'all must have forgot. By the way He's won either a performance or a fight of the night In 5 of his 7 fights I think they're going to put on a banger I hope I'm there for it

And it was exactly by the way 3 years ago today That he made his UFC debut Wow Who did he fight It was the boxer Pete Rodriguez. Fair play. Listen, man, I'm a JDM fan.

You and JDM could put back some VB Longnecks. We'd have a good time. What is that? Australian beer. Should have asked him. We don't drink Fosters. Australian for beer. It is Australian for beer.

But it's not an Australian beer. Or Australians look down on it. Australians look down on it. Yeah. Maybe a Cooper's Pale Ale. A little CPA. Yeah, hell yeah. Not while you're in training camp, though.

Exactly. Yeah, no Yinglings, you know? Yeah, Yinglings, Philly beers. No, no, no. We're cutting that out. No, I know, I know. I'm locked in. I'm dialed.

I'm dialed. Is that a Philly beer? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think it's a Pennsylvania one. A couple of Yinglings on Saturday? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I think it's a Pennsylvania one. A couple of Yangies on Saturday? Yeah, maybe. No, no. Come on.

Locked in. Dialed. Locked in. Dialed. I'm still unclear as to whose side Rick is on. Listen, I'm riding with my rider. He wants me to have a good performance. The dude just talked mad smack about you, and then you go team up with him.

What am I supposed to do? This other guy's coming in. He's coming in to defend your honor. Was it talking smack, or was it acknowledging the truth of the matter? The performance spoke for itself I'm kind of accepting What am I supposed to say? Is he wrong?

We need to talk to Averon about getting Sean a bike I want a bike too The home screen has to be a picture of me He can't change it That would mean ours has to also be a picture of Sean that you're not allowed to change it as well. I can't wait for the footage of me on the assault. I can't wait to see his mug

behind you over there. Wow, so you're saying it's a loss already? That's your prediction. No, no, no. I'm saying if it happens. I'm saying this. See, you're trying to do this on me. Nah. You have drawn lines. I'm Switzerland.

I'm rooting for a good match. By the way, 100% Frank is going. Switzerland. Wait, by the way. Frank's going to tell us what PT thinks. Who was the one, by the way, back in the day? Six different things. Who was the one who picked against Casey?

You know what? I didn't know Casey. That was also Frank. Yeah, that was right. Yeah, that was also Frank. That was also Frank. I did nothing wrong. I'm feeling a trend starting to develop here,

you know, with Frank and teammates. It's concerning. It's concerning, quite frankly. I wish I could stay in front of the mic. Wow, wow. That's a low blow. I just got this from On Air Jordan. Netflix co-CEO, president and director,

Ted Sarandos, yesterday in the Netflix fourth quarter 2024 quarter 2024 earnings call this of course from the great jedi goodman who's one of the all-time best follows uh quote well i'm not going to comment on anything specifically like the ufc but wwe is off to a great start our first week we drew about five million views which is about two times the audience that monday night raw was getting in linear television pretty consistent with how we modeled it how we hope two times the audience that Monday Night Raw was getting in linear television, pretty consistent with how we modeled it, how we hope to build the audience for the league. So I guess he was asked, let me read the full quote. All right.

And so we want to be able to bring value to the sport like we have today with wwe w uh certainly but like we have with the nfl too where we were basically able to bring a big audience young audience more global audience than linear television uh but that has to be reflected in the deal as well so i guess he was asked about doing deals with other sports leagues this is going to be one of the top stories to watch all year long. How involved in live sports does Netflix get? They've got the Christmas NFL game. They've got WWE, the Jake Paul fight. You'd have to think they'll look at another fight of that kind. And what else? The hot dog eating. I had not seen how the hot dog eating contest did. Did anyone see that anywhere?

Like how did that do, the Kobayashi one? I was locked in. I never saw any reports on that. I don't think they make everything public. Or maybe they do. Rick, did you see anything on that? I think I did at the time, so let me look it up. Let's see.

The Kobayashi? But yes. Joey Chestnut? You have to imagine they'll be in the mix for anything big coming out. Yes. Do we have that

that PFL clip that I sent you? Yes, we do. I was sent this clip before we go of I guess it's some kind of promo for the I was sent this clip Before we go Of I guess it's some kind of promo For the Usman Ramagomedov

Versus Paul Hughes fight And I was told that it's by the same team That did the matchroom Bloodline promo Your favorite Yes and it was sent to me I have not seen it Now can we play it is there any music or anything Are we going to get demonetized We don't know me. I have not seen it. Now, can we play it?

Is there any music or anything? Are we going to get demonetized? We don't know. Oh, did you guys not watch it? Well, I don't want to find out. I'd rather not find out. Oh, all right. So, then let's call it a day.

What did you tell me? Is there music? Have you not watched it? I can preview it real quick. Did anyone watch it? No, we did not watch it. Oh, man, a lot going on back here. I mean, it's a quick one-minute it? No. We did not watch it. A lot going on back here.

I mean, it's a quick one minute movie. You want us to kick our feet up for 60 seconds and watch this thing? Yes. Oh, interesting. I just got this from my whoop. You spent 49 minutes in the high stress zone today, the majority of which came from outside of sleep and strain activities. Oh, my God.

Yeah, it always says that last part. See what this shows, dude? 49 minutes is nothing. I'm dying. 49 minutes is nothing. High stress, my God. Yeah, it always says that last part. See what this show's doing. 49 minutes is nothing. I'm dying. 49 minutes is nothing. High stress, 49 minutes. That studio, brother, I've had days back here where it's like two hours and 49 minutes. Oh, my God.

I'm dying back here. This is crazy. How many hours are you doing? Of what? Oh, it's a big problem. What did we get last night? I think six and a half. You know, this promo has only got some classical music in it.

I think we're good. You think so? Yeah. All right, thanks, Frank. I'd be willing to die on this hill. I appreciate that. Okay, so here it is. I'm told that I'm going to love it.

I'm told I'm going to absolutely love it. It's for the much-anticipated Ireland versus Dagestan two-fight. Paul Hughes versus Usman Ramagomedov. Or is it Usman versus Paul? Who knows? By the way, on the crack on Friday, deep dive into this fight courtesy of Pizzi and the crew.

For now, though, let's watch this amazing promo together and let's see just how good it is. This is between me and him. This is just sport. I can beat him everywhere. Look, he's just never fought me. He doesn't get drawn into fights.

And that's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm going to draw a fight out of him. There's a new king here. Paul Hughes is not like a high level fighter. He won AJ McKee with a split decision. For my opinion, there was a draw. He was teed up to fight AJ for a long time. Nobody has put a beating on him like I did. I almost knocked him out multiple times.

That's going to be clipped anyway. When I will finish him, everybody's going to forgive this guy. I need to be willing to go to the depths of hell to beat this man. It's going to be a dark room for him, and this dark room where I'm living. I'm living inside this. I am not mistaken as to the challenge

that I have ahead of me. I'm willing to go through hell to get to heaven. I'm going to destroy them. Oh, God. There's such certainty when he says that. That was great.

It wasn't bloodline. That was a great line from Usman. That was amazing, but it wasn't blood wasn't Bloodline That was a great line From Usman That was amazing But it wasn't Bloodline Bloodline was like A whole thing With kids

Yeah they're working With a different thing That wasn't the Level of production Of that It was amazing But for how they Cut that together

That was pretty sick It was amazing Especially something Cut on Fight Week It was amazing Two things I didn't like Number one It wasn't Bloodline

But number two He's wearing a Bellator shirt I mean we need to Unless it's like A vintage-y kind of like, yeah, you're wearing an Atlanta Thrashers t-shirt, like I'm wearing a Montreal Expos hat. Bellator's dead.

Can we move on? But wasn't the thing that the Bellator championship is still on the line? Isn't that the thing? Isn't that the conceit? Yeah, is the XFL championship on the line when the UFL title game is being played? No. If they played them, then I suppose it would be. No, the XFL's dead just line when the UFL title game is being played? No. If they played them, then I suppose it would be. No, the XFL's

dead just like Bellator's dead. Yeah, but they never transferred that title to the NFL. If the NFL played an XFL team that was a champion... No, the XFL and the USFL merged. It's the exact same thing. I don't know about this. Yeah, you're arguing with me. It's the same thing. Now it's a new league. It's called the UFL just like it's called the PFL.

Yeah. The Bellator title's on the line. Gotta have some lineage. What is it? What lineage? There's no lineage. What do you mean? There's a lineage to the Bellator title. Yo, when the UFC bought WC and merged them together, Dominic Cruz became the UFC champ. Right?

Jose Aldo became the UFC champ. When they brought Strikeforce over, Ronda Rousey became the UFC champ. Same thing. Yeah, they didn't do that. Yeah, it's a mistake. My point is, three days away, fix the mistake in the next three days. I'm skeptical.

Now, speaking of potential mistakes, the GFL draft is happening this Friday. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It was a joke. It was a joke. Everyone stop chatting shit

I want to let you know That the GFL draft Is happening This Friday Virtual draft January 24th 8pm Eastern This is from a press release

I just got Fans worldwide Can tune in And watch On GFL's official platforms, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitch. Plus the show will also air on DAZN and pay-per-view.com,

the Triller TV app, and Rumble. The list of eligible athletes can be viewed at mmagfl.com slash athletes. Oh yeah, there's a lot of them here. It will be broadcast live from Van Wagner Studios in Phoenix. The GFL Draft will feature founder and commissioner Darren Owen with insights from renowned MMA analysts and personalities. Robin Black, Caroline Pierce, Alex Wenling, Mike Goldberg, and Brendan Schaub. All revealing selections for six inaugural teams, Dubai, London, Los Angeles, Miami,

New York, Sao Paulo. There will also be insights from team managers and coaches, of course, Dubai, manager Kane, and coach Javier. What's the difference between manager and coach? London manager Luke Barnard and coach Carl Prince. LA manager Vanderlei Silva, coach Rafael Cordero. Miami manager, Tiago Alves and coach Conan Silvera. New York, coach Ray Longo, manager TBD.

GC, you want to throw your name into the hat? I'm down. I'm down to be... What is the manager? Advisor. Yeah, consultant. Mascot. Do we have a mascot for the New York team yet?

No, hasn't been announced. Sao Paulo, by the way, manager Liotto and coach Andre Pettinaris. The GFL enters Friday's section with over 420 athletes from 67 countries competing for 120 coveted roster spots. Featuring a mix of MMA legends and rising stars such as Tyron Woodley, Paige Van Zandt, Anthony Pettis, Yul Romero, Monsieur Shogun Hua,

Alimile McFarlane, Junior Dos Santos, Aspen Ladd, and Marlon Moraes. Wait, so the pool of fighters is 420 people, did you say? 420 available 120 spots So what happens to the 300? I don't know

Yeah that's interesting right So like if you signed up And you didn't get picked What happens to you? The devil's in the details So could you foresee them doing cards Where the 300 that didn't get drafted Are fighting each other The devil's in the details So are they Could you foresee them doing cards where The 300 that didn't get drafted are fighting each other

As like the prelims And then the main card is the league teams or whatever Hmm I don't like that to be totally honest Why? I don't know You're gonna do the league thing, commit to the league thing, right? Unless I'm mistaken, weren't they paid already To just be part of this?

Isn't that how that worked initially? You think they're paid just to be in the pool? Yeah. And then what? What if you don't get picked? Then you only have the compensation for, yeah, you're a free agent. You only have the compensation that was... Can you imagine? Can you imagine someone's like, you know what? I don't want to be in the Paige Van Zandt business and she doesn't get picked?

Never know. She'll get picked. Laramie Tunzel-esque. Right. She will be picked. Who's Laramie Tunzalesque Right She will be picked Who's Laramie Tunzalesque? The guy that draft night he filled the 10th Oh right He's the gas man Yes yes yes

Wow okay so high intrigue You think they're going to have like a shot of the green room And let's say you know there's Vanderlei sitting there with his family And not getting picked And they're like oh we're down to the 25th pick. And he's not getting picked. You know, like that whole scene. Isn't Vanderlei coaching?

Yeah, you know, I just threw out a name. I'm not really sure who's a coach, who's a fighter at this point. It clearly says in the press release. No, I think he's like Bill Russell. Hybrid? I think he's a player coach. Player coach? He's Bill Russell's Searca 1960.

I got nothing to worry about With Ray Longo Steering the ship for old NYC I feel good about our chances We need to sign a manager in the next two days Are we going to fight at MSG? By the way this is the problem You can't go into a draft without a coach Or a GM

The manager is the GM If the Bills are going to I mean they're not They're not they're not in the you know they're not picking high these days but you get the point if they don't have a general manager who's who's making the call who's picking the fighters I'm worried about the New York team I'm sneaky hoping we grabbed the mirrors Magulov in the middle rounds that was big when they announced he was coming out you laugh I'm being serious who are? I want to know who's going to go 1-1. I need to talk to Shaheen. We need to do a mock draft.

Uncrown needs to do a mock draft. Everyone does mock drafts, right? No, you can do the mock draft, no doubt. I think that'd be great. Uncrown.com, mock draft? Yeah, if someone wants to do that, I think that'd be good. Do you think before each pick they'll have a thing that goes do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do? No, because it's trademarked by ESPN. I think that'd be good. Do you think before each pick, they'll have a thing that goes do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, No, because it's trademarked by ESPN. Okay.

But who's going to be the Woj or Shams like spoiling? Oh, I want to be that guy. Can I be that guy? There's a lane. But I want to be coy with it. Like,

like Woj was. Yeah. Targeting. Lasered in on. The New York. New York Lizards. Yes. Liberty.

Yeah. That one's taken. New York Lizards are. Lizards. Yes. Liberty. Yeah. That one's taken. New York Lizards are. Lizards. The New York Rats. I don't know. Rats. Apples.

The New York Big Apples are. The New York Empire. Are warming up to the idea of Demir. The New York Empire have their finger in the pie that is Demir's Magula. Oh, my God. I can't wait. All right. 8 o'clock.

Get locked in. What a time to be alive. By the way, on Friday, I just want to let you know, Friday morning, Naoya Inoue fighting ESPN+. I don't know what time the walkouts are. The monster? You know it, Frank. Yejun Jun Kim he's going up against he was supposed to fight against Sam Goodman and uh he had to withdraw twice well first he had to withdraw and then they rescheduled it to the end of uh of January and then he had to withdraw again cut and. And in enters Yijun Koum. Kim, I think, is he like

a minus 5,000? Yeah, minus 5,000. Is that legit? Yes. It's legit. I mean, it's a squash match. He's going to kill him. The monster. One of Frank's favorites. Yeah, I mean, he'll have him out in short order.

What are we looking at tomorrow? Boys in the Back, 1 p.mpm Eastern, live right here Yeah, gonna talk about our trip to Philly We're gonna plan out our cheesesteak route We're gonna talk BK, Knucklemania No need to even say BKFC, Knucklemania 5 PFL, Paul Hughes Big Underdog against Usman Ramagomedov

Pound for Pound ranking In honor of Philadelphia Cheesesteaks High Five Sandwiches Nice Is this why you guys were talking about in honor of Philadelphia. Cheesesteaks. High five sandwiches. Nice. Oh, just pure. Is this why you guys were talking about is a hot dog a sandwich earlier?

I don't think that was part of that. That's just general banter amongst us. Okay, thank God. I was like, is this what we're doing now? Oh, is there two holes in a straw or one? I mean, what are we? That's actually a good question. Two holes in a straw or one?

Now, is breakfast cereal a salad? Now, is breakfast cereal a salad? No, is breakfast cereal a soup? Yes. He messes this up every time. No, because it's a grain and there's the dressing, which is the milk. We went over this. Okay, and when we get the picks, which I think is a great, so it's just top five sandwiches? Top five sandwiches.

Can we get on, Frank, top five sandwiches. Top five sandwiches. Is that it? It's signed, sealed, delivered. Everyone has heard it. Everyone's on the same heard it You're picking up that he blew it 100% Senior executive producer Ariel Helwani was upset with that

He said president earlier I mean founder, owner I mean everything Alpha, omega, beta Sigma The kids say Sigma these days Sigma Master Let me just

My skin was crawling last week So can we just not have this situation again I was a bit uncomfortable as well I still haven't recovered from that Alright well let's see if we can get it right Love you Frank Top 5 sandwiches What's your favorite sandwich?

All time I do love a good peanut butter and jelly Like a soft bread Love you, Frank. It's tough. Top five sandwiches. What's your favorite sandwich? All time? I do love a good peanut butter and jelly, like a soft, soft bread. Soft bread, strawberry jelly. We've talked about this. Can go crunchy or smooth. Can I tell you, can I just say,

can I end on this? In my darkest hour, when I was at Syracuse University, 2021 to 2024, my go-to depressing meal, especially in the later portions of my time there. Like at the beginning, my first year, all I ate for an entire year was alfagettis or blue diamond almonds in my room while watching UFC or pro wrestling. That was pretty much it. Because I was down on the Knicks.

I was down on the Bills The Expos were dying It was a tough time Back end of my time there I would go to Subway And I would get an item that wasn't even on the menu Could you believe it? It was the veggie patty

Have you ever had the veggie patty at Subway? Didn't even know it existed Not on the menu 12 inch, two pattiesies cut in the middle. And you walk up there. It's nowhere to be found. But if you know, you know. You ask for the veggie patty and it's like a patty that's kind of

in a rectangular shape. And it was fantastic. What's it made of? Can I ask you something? I mean, like a veggie burger. I don't think this is a if you know, you know. Has anybody other than you ever gotten this? Have you heard from anybody else that they have received this?

Because my fear is that they were playing a joke on you and gave you this and nobody else has ever received this. There's no joke. My real fear. Alex over at Vox, that's what he got every time. Seriously? Yeah. My real fear was that Helwani was like the guy at the local Subway Was trying out his own veggie patty

That's what I'm saying Veggie delight is if there was cheese This is a veggie patty You go in there and I just typed it in Subway's veggie patty is a vegetarian patty Made from vegetables, whole grains and spices It's a good option for vegetarians And people who eat meat

Also it says Only die hard In the know customers Order this Because it's not on the menu Wow This is not on Wikipedia No

It's like I googled it I mean it is kind of Like nobody knows I didn't know If you like nasty food Then you know It's like watering right here I'm getting that feeling

Over the veggie patty From Subway I used to get it This place is the McDonald's Of sub sandwiches With two cookies Two cookies I would get it

Alright what kind of cookies I would usually go with The white chocolate one Alright And then traditional Okay Not bad And I would walk to my apartment

Saying to myself Mama gonna work it out Mama gonna work it out And I would eat my It sounds like a hell of a time nasty and you just bought yourself i was depressed to the max okay like there was literally a black cloud hanging over my head as i'm walking i remember vividly walking with my bag and my cookies settling in and uh i would watch at that, for that last year,

I was really into Champions League. I wasn't so into Premier League, but I was into Champions League. So I had like my little stuff on the wall and everything. I would watch soccer in the afternoon. I would watch wrestling at night. I would watch UFC pay-per-views.

They were on Friday nights back then. And I was just counting down the days until I could be freed. It was a dark time. And I used to do a show just like this one, Saturday mornings. And I would talk to my fake producer named Lester C. Dearson. We would have arguments. He did not exist, but I would speak to him. No one was listening except for my mom and sister on werw.syr.edu. And look at me now. Would you do a voice for Lester?

No, I would just, I would argue with him, but he wouldn't answer back because I would say he was behind a wall. He was behind the glass. He was producing the show. He was my producer. Didn't exist. But I felt like I needed someone to play off of. I'm like, Lester, man, man, you know, he was, he doesn't agree with me you know uh tito ortiz is pound for pound number one this is what we were debating is lester here with us right now he is always with me forever in my heart but uh i wanted to say you know and look at me now look how rich i am look at look at look at look at all the people i have in front of me look at the people that are working with me on my team not not i was like I have in front of me. Look at the people that are working with me on my team. Not, not. I was like, because directly in front of you, there's no one there.

There's no fake people anymore. There's no imaginary friends. We are here. We made it. We made it, guys. What if we're all just figments of your imagination? Look at us. Look at us.

Look at the time we're having. Oh, how lucky are we? I, for one, appreciate it. Thank you, Ariel. Yeah. Despite, like, letting me down, not letting me down, at least there's people to let me down or not let me down. It's like the great Bob Marley once said, Frank.

He's getting all sentimental and he drops the music. It's fine. I'm good. It's like the great Bob Marley once said when a reporter asked him, he said, are you a rich man? And he said, what does rich mean? What does rich mean? Well, that's a good question. Do you have a lot of money in the bank? Do you have a lot of possessions? And what did Bob say? Frank, what did Bob say? No. He said possessions make you rich?

I don't have that kind of riches. My richness is life. My richness is this team. That's awesome. Thanks, Ariel. I mean, it's... It was literally the same show. It was a three-hour show.

I would sit there talking to the likes of Bruce Buffer, Dan Severn, Bobby the Brain Heenan, Dave Meltzer, all kinds of people. Tommy Dreamer. I would write them emails on their website. And then I would send, I would go on onewrestling.com or Sherdog or the UG and I would say, this guy, exclusive

interview on my show. Come check it out. No one was listening. But it was exciting because they gave me a block of time, and I was able to do whatever I want. And, of course, I've told the story. You know, met this girl that I used to sit next to in psychology class who I had my eye on. Actually met her. She liked me. She gives me her phone number.

She tells me, well, what are you doing tomorrow? I said, I'm interviewing the Iron Sheik on my wrestling show. Never called me back. But look at us now. Oh, man. I thought this was going to end with, and I married her back. But look at us now. Oh, man. Look at us now. I thought this was going to end with and I married her.

Nope. Look at us now. Robert Whitaker, Jack Dilla, Jeremy Stephens. Thanks to you. Thanks to them. Back on Thursday. Same time, same place.

Peace. I'm out of here.