The Ariel Helwani Show - Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano on Netflix?! Ariel Helwani reaction, On The Nose, more | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

The Boys in the Back react to the massive news of Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano being announced to headline a Most Valuable Promotions MMA card on Netflix, including Ariel Helwani's thoughts on the announcement (00:47).Petesy Carroll joins the Boys for On The Nose (54:56), before bouncing around the MMA world for news and notes, including Conor McGregor hinting at the Nate Diaz trilogy, talks of Khamzat Chimaev as a light heavyweight, and more (2:00:38).Finally, the Boys answer your Super Chats before saying goodbye (2:17:55).

But boys in the back. But boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. What is good? We are back with another edition of the Boys in the Back. Back again on another beautiful Tuesday afternoon here in New York City. I am one-third of the boys in the back. Connor Birx, join alongside me. As always, the man, the myth, the Ronda Rousey Truther.

New York, Rick. How are we doing, brother? Some are saying. Some are saying. Am I'm doing great. This morning's announcement got me extremely excited. Can't wait to talk about it. So let's waste no time. Let's waste no time. Actually, let's waste a little bit of time. Frankie, how you doing, man? I do agree, but let's waste no time. Let's waste no time. Let's get right into it. Breaking news this morning. Around 9 a.m. Eastern Standard this morning, we got the huge announcement that Rhonda Rousey and Gina Carano will be. back fighting in mixed martial arts this time on Netflix, this time for MVP, not the UFC,

and this time in a hexagon. Gina's used to the hexagon. That's what they used back in Strikeforce. It'll take place Saturday, May 16th in Los Angeles, California at the Intuit Dome, which for me personally, that might have been the biggest piece of news out of all this, is that we're getting another mixed martial arts fight at the Intuit Dome. It was at, they were there for UFC 311. It's an incredible arena. It's going to be at 145 pounds, 5 minute rounds, incredibly exciting stuff. You can see Helwani's tweet there making the announcement that had happened.

That's not all he gave us. He also gave us a reaction video live from Lavinio. The man never stops working to give us his thoughts on the breaking news this morning. Take a listen. Hello, friends. It's your old pal Ariel Hawani. Do you remember me? I'm still here. Still at the Olympic Games, still having an amazing time with my friends at CBC. We are in beautiful and snowy Livino. It's day 11 of the Olympic Games. It's been amazing. Canada has two gold medals. I've had a chance to speak to both of them. We're going to move to Milano on Thursday for the back end of the games. Women's hockey gold medal game, men's hockey gold medal, some other stuff as well. But you're not here to hear me talk about all of that. We've got to talk about the mass. of breaking news that happened, that went down, that dropped on early Tuesday morning 9 a.m. Eastern, to be exact, it was announced by both Netflix and most valuable promotions that the dream fight that we never thought was going to happen, at least not in the year 2026,

the one that we had been talking about for quite some time, and I'll give you some of the backstory, is actually, in fact, going to happen. It's the return of Ronda Rousey going up against Gina Karana, who is also making her return to MMA. Ronda Rousey has not fought in a pro-MMA fight since December of 2016 when she lost to Amanda Nunes. Afterwards, you may recall, she left the UFC and pursued a career in WWE. Did a long stint there, left WWE, not that long ago, decided to focus on motherhood and other projects. But here she is coming back against the pioneer, the trailblazer, the first face of women's MMA. Certainly if you ask me, the one that was fighting on CBS,

long before the UFC got there back in 2008, the one and only Gina Carrano, who has not fought since 2009 when she fought, of course, Chris Cyborg in San Jose afterwards pursuing a career in film. The Mandalorian Project was her biggest haywire, of course, and so here it is. And there's so much to dissect here. There's so much to digest. First, the details. May 16th, Intuit Dome, sight of the NBA All-Star game this past weekend, Inglewood, California, that beautiful. beautiful arena that hosted the UFC event two January's ago. It was supposed to be Armisturukin against Islam al-Hachav.

It ended up being Islam versus Hanato. You've seen it. It's phenomenal. Live on Netflix, promoted by most valuable promotions. Let's focus on those two items. First ever MMA card to air live on Netflix. Massive deal. By now, you know they've had a few forays into the world of boxing,

but never before MMA. this is their first, and the first MMA card promoted by MVP. That's Jake Paul and Nekisa Baderian. They, of course, have, you know, applied their trade in the world of boxing. And so here they are jumping into the world of MMA with two legends in a dream fight, and they brought it to Netflix. Pro-MMA fight, 145 pounds, 5-5-minute rounds in a hexagon. As of right this second, no other fights have been announced.

I know they're taking a big swing here. I suspect big names will be on this card. And it's unclear at this time if it's a one-off for MVP as far as MVP MMA is concerned or Netflix MMA is concerned. But man, what a splash. And then when you consider the fact that, wait a second, didn't we think all this time that Ronda Rousey and Dana White

were very close? And I suspect they are still close. But to see her come back, not under the UFC banner, in May a month or so before that big White House car. This is a fascinating time, and it's also, I think, a jolt of adrenaline and, adrenaline, excuse me, and excitement for the world of MMA, which, let's be honest, at times has felt a little bit stale, if only because the UFC has no competition.

And I'm not here to suggest that MVP is the new competition for the UFC as far as MMA is concerned. This, for now, is just a singular event. But if they could get some momentum, just like they had a singular event, not that long ago that spawned into this, you know, massive business with MVPW and all this stuff, the times could get very, very interesting. So like I said, we have not seen Gina compete since 2009. We have not seen Rhonda compete since 2016.

But you may recall in 2019 on my show on ESPN, Ariel Hwani's MMA show, in the last time I spoke to Gina, we had a very long conversation. It was about an hour long. And I asked her about the rumors. There were rumors in 24. that the UFC was trying to make this fight happen for International Fight Week. And she told us this story that I had never heard before and haven't heard since, to be honest, where she met with Dana and Lorenzo.

Actually, we could take a step back. Before she was supposed to fight Chris Cyborg, Dana and Lorenzo approached her when Elite XC fell apart, and before she moved on with Scott Coker for that one fight under the Strike Force banner to fight Chris Cyborg, Dana and Lorenzo pitched her the idea of leaving and going to WEC. She was loyal to Scott, wanted to take the cyborg fight, and we know what happened there. Well, then she told me that in 2014, she met with Dana and Lorenzo. Lorenzo still an owner of the UFC at the time in Hollywood, and they pitched her on the idea of

Gina Carano versus Ronda Rousey. Gina Carrano was obviously still a massive name. It had only been five years since her last fight, and Ronda Rousey was the face of women's MMA, and arguably in many people's eyes, the face of the UFC, and was the UFC women's bantamway champion. And so she said that the conversation was nice. cordial the money was right but she asked them to sit on it for about six months so she could start training she could get a team together she could get

you know the blood boiling again she said shortly thereafter Dana did an interview mentioned then she felt a little funny about that and felt like you know there was some trust that was broken but all right no big deal and then there was a text message that was sent from Dana White to Gina Karano in which she said at least this is what she told me in the text message it read that Dana called her the B word and said that she was being a little bit too difficult. And she felt like that was a mistake of a text message, that that was not supposed to be sent to her. It was supposed to be sent to someone else talking about her. And so she called him out

on it and said, I think you meant to send this to someone else. And he said, no, I didn't. And so then she just called off all the talks, negotiations, and that was it. And she said she saw him a few years later and he did actually profusely apologize for that. But that's how that ended. And so here we are some 12 years later and the fight is happening. And it's kind of surreal because they just dropped this promo of the two of them facing off and the Kisa is there. And it's like, holy crap, who would have thought?

You know, I was trying to explain it to some of the people that I'm working with here. And, you know, this is two eras coming together. Obviously, both of them aren't active these days. But it's sort of like those dream fights, those dreams. matchups, those dream one-on-ones from back in the day that you talk about in all forms of sports, not just combat sports. And so to see them come together is fascinating. To see it being promoted by Jake and Akisa and MVP is fascinating.

What does this mean for their future in MMA? To see it on Netflix of all places, we know how big of a deal that is, is fascinating. And then the other thing that I can't stop thinking about is who's going to be on the rest of the card? What kind of rabbits do they have to pull here? Who are the names that are available? Who are the guys? Who are the gals?

Who are the free agents? What are they going to do? What kind of look is it going to have? All those things and more. It's been a while since we've felt, I think, this jolt of adrenaline in the sport of MMA. So here we go. I will say, full disclosure, it was announced today that I'll be hosting the press conference

on March 5th in LA. That's a huge honor for me. And just as an aside, you know, getting to do these post-fight interviews and whatnot, getting to be on Netflix, I love it. I adore it, and it's great to expand into boxing and to do other things, combat sports. But this will be the first time that I get to do it. I hope in MMA. As of right now, it's just the press conference.

I hope that will lead to working on the card as well. Nothing finalized just yet, but that would be a gigantic honor for me. That would be a huge deal. I would love to be a part of it. And I think Netflix is getting involved with this fight, with MVP in this fight, with MMA is just a huge, huge, huge deal. I can't wait for the scene. The scene on March 5th is going to be. wild because, you know, these are two icons. These are two legends, pioneers, trailblazers

in their own right, and they're going to be up there. And I don't know if anyone else is going to be up there, but I think it's going to be great. I also have never been to the Intuit dome, and it looks fantastic on TV. So, yeah, I'm just reacting to this in real time. I think we'll have more time to digest it and dissect it. And I can't wait to hear you guys break it all down. You're doing an amazing job. Love the show yesterday. Love the interviews over the past week. I'm sitting back here as a very proud Papa, Pizzi with the great article. has been with the great stuff, Uncrowned Films, the Uncrown Wrestling Show Pod,

episode two tonight, all the amazing I mean, dot com is just killing it. But I had to weigh in on this one. This was, I mean, this is, this is in my opinion, gigantic news. Let me know how you guys feel about it. Obviously, like I said, I'll be working in the press conference, so I say that with full disclosure.

Hired by Netflix, very excited about that. It's a huge honor. And again, just seeing that promo actually feeling like this is a real thing. I don't know what to expect again, 145 minute rounds, not three five minute rounds in a hexagon, pro fight, four ounce gloves. Golly. I feel like I'm just kind of making sense of it all here, but here we go.

And I think the journey to get to this fight, May 16th, is going to be supremely interesting. Who else will they sign? Who else will they book for this card? And by the way, as we've been talking about, Gina's been training. She's been with John Wood at syndicate in L.A. We've seen Ronda training as well. So I don't think this is something that just kind of fell onto their laps. like, all right, sure, I'll take the payday, no problem.

It feels like it has been in the works for quite some time. So, fascinating stuff there. Can't wait to hear what you guys think about it. Can't wait to see what you guys say about it and all that stuff. I do want to weigh in on two very quick things, other things before I go. The Ian Gary is some of Hachev stuff is super interesting, and I think Ian is a very smart guy, and I kind of feel like if he's going all the way to Georgia,

he's trying to tell us something. And if, in fact, he is trying to tell us that he is getting a title shot, sometime in the spring after Ramadan, good on the UFC. I want to tip my cap to the UFC because they made the right call. Kumar Usman should never be in consideration to fight for the belt in the year 2026. Not with his record. If he wins one or two more, great. God bless, what a comeback story.

But there are guys like Ian, guys like Carlos Prachis, guys like Michael Morales, who deserve it far more. Title shots should not be lifetime achievement awards. And I think of all of them. If Schaff cuts out, and he is, Ian should be the guy. So I hope that what he is saying isn't wolf tickets or anything. I hope that he is telling us the truth, and I hope they make that fight. And I say good on everyone involved for making that fight, if that is in fact the fight.

The other thing I just have to say, couldn't help but laugh at Frank's Dana White beating up babies line. The drops were amazing. And I just think it's funny that he's using the Ben Shalom line of Eddie Hearn works for his dad. When, I mean, let's be honest. And I'm not trying to get involved in this, but like the only reason why Dana became the president of the UFC is because he had two very rich friends who he told the UFC was on the market and they bought it and they poured all the money and they lost 40 something million dollars and said, hey, if we're going to do this, you have to be the guy. And I'm not trying to take anything away from him being the guy.

Because he was the guy, the UFC was successful. But the line that like, yo, you work for your dad and I'm self-made is just, I mean, it's hypocritical. To be honest. You worked for your friends. Your friends gave you a great opportunity. You delivered for them. And now you worked for TKO and some very powerful people. So that's an old line. I laughed at it. I understand he was trying to hit him below the belt.

But like, come on, man. Like, look at history. Like, no one thinks that you actually invested in poured in all that money. It was your buddies. And good on them for putting you in that spot. And it worked out. But I just think that's another little fun chapter in this rivalry that is brewing between Dana and Eddie Hearn. I'm out of time. It is snowing. It is cold. It is nice. We're having a blast. And, yeah, I can't wait to hear what you guys say about this. So again, May 16th on next. Netflix, MVP's first MMA card, Netflix's first MMA card. Rhonda versus Gina. Who else? The return press conference March 5th. Gali.

I miss you all, guys. Did you see my crate making? Did you see it? Did you see my pizokeri making? Did you see the half pipe? Did you see the cross country? Did you see any of it? Do you like it?

Are you enjoying it? I'll stand by and listen. You're killing it, brother. Thanks so much for the video. We appreciate it. Again, looks incredible. The flannel that time. I'm digging it.

The flannel looks good, man. The scenes are just incredible every time. I mean, he's in the mountains of Italy. It's idyllic. It's incredible. Great breakdown, great reaction from this massive news. A bit of big news there. He's going to be hosting the press conference on March 5th.

That's huge. That's our boy. How many gets to go to the Intuit dome or is that going to be at like a small theater? Okay. Probably, do you do it at Intuit? No, it'll be in a theater. It'll be like somewhere near adjacent. Can't confirm press conference at the Intuit Dome.

Oh, shit. I was going to say, that's huge. UFC has done this in the past. You know, sometimes it's just like the best available venue. All you do is you either open it up to fans and you're like, hopefully we can fill this or you just close off like half of it and you just stage it.

You put the stage at the halfway point and then you can really like make it kind of feel intimate. But now I'm jealous. If you don't know, if you don't know about the Intuit dome, you need to educate yourself. I actually have a serious point on the Intuit dome. Well, I know you're serious about it.

Wait, you have a serious point on the Intuit Dome? Yeah. Okay. I know you're serious about your love of the Intuit Dome, and I also love it. It is the perfect venue for this. And the reason beyond just the fact that, like, it's going to be in Los Angeles, it's the best arena.

It is truly like the best arena. It's the thing that the NBA just went to have their All-Star weekend at. When WWA debuted on Netflix, they were at the Intuit Dome, it is the attraction. It is the arena in the country right now where people are like, if you have a big event, you go to into it. And that just fits with like Netflix, biggest broadcaster, Ronda Rousey, biggest name in women's MMA, one of the biggest names in MMA period. Gina Carrano, Hollywood Starlet, former huge MMA fighter. Now, her era was much before Ronda's, and I think there are a lot of fans who are maybe lapsed from having known who she is. but every bit of this is just massive, even down to the arena,

even down to the idea that they are going to, what I consider like the best arena in the U.S. right now, it all just feels massive. It's hard to look at this and feel like this isn't the biggest event of the year. It's huge business. I mean, to your point, like it's everything about it Netflix and Tuit Dome. Like they're probably going to sell out that arena as well. No doubt.

I'm seeing some diehard M.A fans sort of pooing. it because, as you mentioned, different generations almost in terms of fighting, Gina Carano hasn't competed since 2009. That's 17 years ago. Ovin sent me a stat of, like, who were the, who was in grade school last time Gina Carrano fought? You're talking about Pantosia, Davoschavili, Robert Whitaker, Mogamette, Anka, Rosnamuunus, JDM, Dregis 2 Plus C, Tom Aspinol, like, these kids were in grade school.

You have like people like Dakota Dichiba posting like how Ronda Rousey like was an inspiration where Jake Paul got into judo because of Ronda Rousey. Like they have not fought on a long time and I understand, you know, diehard fans being like this isn't exactly a fight that I'm dying to see from a technical standpoint and the, you know, who wins the fight and everything like that. But it's huge business because it's going to attract a massive audience. The parlay of massive names in terms of women's MMA, Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey is about as a. big as you could possibly get. Then you're putting it on Netflix as well with all this promotion and backing behind it. It's going to be a huge event.

And unless they put the White House card on CBS and you have Connor McGregor in it, it will be the most watched mixed martial arts fight of 2026. No doubt. And even then, depending on how you measure it, right? I wonder what, we don't know anything about the broadcast distribution of the White House card right now, right? Is it going to be exclusively on Paramount Plus? Is there going to be part of it on CBS? You know, they've been experimenting with that for upcoming numbered event.

They're going to be doing that section of time where it's like the late prelims into the main card is going to be on CBS. That distribution is going to be key to kind of how you measure what the biggest event is going to be from a broadcast perspective. But there's no doubt that the number of eyeballs on this on Netflix are going to be massive. Just no doubt. Yeah, you say we don't know the time on like, is it going to be CBS? Is it going to be Paramount Plus? How they're going to broadcast this. We also don't know who's going to be on the.

car. That's a great point. That's going to be a massive determining fact. Even if it's Connor, though, without a CBS element, I do wonder what that number looks like, right? Because there may be older fans who are on Paramount Plus, but I don't know if they're there for live sports, right? I'm just picturing like my parents or grandparents, right? They're flipping on CBS to watch news, football, those types of things. Even if they have access to Paramount Plus, I'm not sure that that's the fan base that you're going to be able to get to log onto it. On the other side, side of that, every parent, every grandparent watches and has Netflix. It has just become a reality of life. It has become the streaming platform for the universe, right? That is what everybody tunes into.

Young, old, whatever the demographic is, Netflix is like synonymous with streaming. And so, even with Connor McGregor, I do wonder what that number looks like. Now, if you say it's Connor McGregor, we're going to have a nice little window on CBS. Now I'm like, okay, I think the UFC is still in this game. this brings me to point number two. Okay. Do you have anything more to say about the fight itself? No, no, no, not the fight itself, like on the, how massive it is, how big of a thing is. Because I do see a lot of fans poo-pooing it, but this is passing the casual test.

Walked into the office today, three different people came up to me, and they're just like, man, is that for real? Is that Rhonda Rousey fight really happening? Is she actually coming back? It's like, yeah, and it's going to be on Netflix, and it's going to be huge. And it's happening in the springtime. She made a post. been waiting so long to announce this. Me and Gina Carrano are going to throw down in the biggest super fight in women's combat sport history.

That's a guarantee. Yeah, for sure. Not even going to be close. And we're partnering with the fighter first promotion, most valuable promotions, as well as the baddest streamer on the planet. Netflix. This is for all of MMA fans past, president of future, more to come, much more. However you feel about the fight, your interest level, it does not matter. This is huge to get MMA on Netflix.

and Jake Paul, Mike Tyson, in terms of the fight, I was just like, why are they doing this? This shouldn't even be happening. It doesn't really matter to me who wins this. But I knew it was going to be massive, 111 million or however many tuned in. I don't think this is going to do 111 million,

but it's going to get a huge audience. Absolutely. Interesting on that tweet that we showed from Rhonda that she's addressing MMA fans because we know how contentious her relationship with MMA fans is. So I thought that was quite interesting. As far as the fight itself, I'm not as down on it as

I don't think this is in the category of Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul. No, for sure. It's a 43-year-old versus a 39-year-old. Yeah, and even though they are different eras, to me, this feels like a fight that could conceivably be more competitive than Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson,

which we have been very early on saying, we don't think this is a real fight. Jake Paul is going to win. How he wins is kind of like the debate around that. I don't feel the same way about this. I don't know that Ron, like Ronda Rouse. Rousey's run at the end of the UFC was her getting battered.

Like it was not exactly the same as the beginning of her career, which she was taking everybody out. And now we are children, entire moving on with life, and multiple years removed from that era, and she's coming back. We don't know what Ronda Rousey will look like. She is much more of an unknown. With Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, there was one unknown, which was Mike Tyson. And due to his age and the miles on him,

it was easier to make an assumption on him. I knew Jake Paul. Jake Paul had been active and competitive. I knew exactly what I was going to get out of Jake Paul. In this scenario, I don't know what I'm getting at a Ronda, nor do I know what I'm getting out of Gina. That makes it compelling to me. So the idea that it's just like, I do care about this matchup. They're two of the biggest names in women's MMA history, Ronda Rousey being one of the biggest names, as I said, male, female, whatever.

You can line them up. Ronda Rousey is one of the biggest stars combat sports has ever had. I'm compelled by the idea of them competing, and I don't think this is like a foregone conclusion of, well, the younger person automatically wins. Now, if I sit here and analyze the fight, do I think that Ronda Rousey is going to win? Yes, but I picked Ronda Rousey in every single fight she's ever had.

So that's not really like breaking news. But I think this is in a different tier than a Mike Tyson and a Jake Paul from a competition perspective, but similar in the sense that there's a specter. element to just Ronda Rousey is back. Gina Carrano is coming out of a near two-decade absence from the sport. That is massive. Yeah, to be clear, I wasn't comparing it in terms of level of competition.

No, but you'll see that. This is not for the diehards that are tuning into UFC FX 113. This is for a super fight to get a massive audience across the country and the world. If you are expecting the highest level of mixed martial arts, you're probably not going to get that in this fight, right? The highest level of mixed martial arts is happening at the UFC. That is no doubt. You cannot argue it. I know that there's other, you know, MMA promotions in the marketplace. The highest level of martial arts is the UFC champions right now. That is what it is. But that doesn't mean that this can't be a good level of martial arts.

And even further, it's possible that it's not. But even further than that, that doesn't mean that this can't be a fair fight. And that's what I'm looking for when I look for some of these. If a fight between two legends happens in the UFC, my first instinct isn't, well, they're not the champions of the UFC. They're washed. They suck. They're not good. No, my thought is like, that's appropriate matchmaking. That's kind of what I want to see.

I want to see two legends, right? I want to, I'm okay with that idea when it's, hey, let's do Nick Diaz versus Robbie Lawler. Now, granted, Nick Diaz's, you know, extended layoff didn't help. But that's the fight I want to see Nick Diaz in versus Nick Diaz versus up and coming young guy who's absolutely just going to take his head off his show. shoulders. So I'm okay with the matchmaking part of it. I think this is fine for MMA fans. If you're at all inclined to watch MMA, you're probably watching this. Yeah, I think any MMA fan is going to tune in, and then I think it's also going to garner a massive audience outside of that. I mean, when you talk to fans who aren't really into the

sport, the one they always bring up is the Hollyholm headkick against Ronda Rouse. It's Ronda. It's always Ronda. She is insanely popular. She gets a huge audience anytime she fights. Now it hasn't been 10 years. People want to know where she's at. Because if she goes in there and finishes Gina Carrano in the first round, people are going to start talking. What's next for? Where does she go from here? Like also Gina, if she goes in and beats Ronda Rousey. Whoever wins this fight, it's going to be like, okay, what now? Now what are you going to do? If you're Gina Carrano, who has an acting career, she was a star of a major motion picture in Haywire. She was on Mandalorian. If you're Gina Carano, you go in there and win, you can retire again and

and this could be a springboard for other acting roles and other opportunities, don't forget, like the reason Rhonda Rousey is a megastar is because she was winning the fights and then parlaying that into other success, right? You start appearing in commercials. You start appearing in TV shows and movies and things like that. She was in expendable as Ronda Rousey was. Like, that's how you do that.

That's how you build that. And so if Gina Carrano wins this, this feels like a real opportunity. If you're an entertainment property out there, hey, maybe like Netflix. If you were like, we want to get into the business of producing entertaining entertainment content around Gina Carano or alternative via Rhonda Rousey wins this. That doesn't feel like a bad option either with somebody who's still a very popular athlete

with many fans out there. So the tentacles of this are very far reaching. Also, I know we keep saying Netflix and everything like that. How important do we think it is that Netflix is putting on an MMA super fight and MVP is the one promoting it? Massively. The idea that Netflix, I have to imagine and I have no inside info on this, but I have to imagine that the concept of Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carrano, Ariel talked about it. This was talked about in 2014. This is not like a thing that just got spun up overnight.

Oh my God, how could we imagine this? We have talked about this fight for months already. I have to imagine that the idea of Ronda Rousey and Gina Carrano came to Netflix's thoughts when they started thinking about the combat space and maybe you back into the promoter. Now, I don't know that. Maybe MVP was the one who cooked this up and was like, we really want to do this and we're going to bring it to Netflix because MVP has that relationship.

But I have to imagine that the savvy combat sports people at Netflix would have wanted to do this fight. And then you just look down at, hey, how can we do this fight? We have a promoter ready made in MVP who has been doing massive events for us. Let's bring this to them. Let's do an MMA card. And Bob Gianna, you've got the MMA card of your dreams with these two headliners. and you didn't even need to go into business with another promotion. Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to watch what doors this could potentially open down the line

for other MMA fighters who are done with the UFC and potentially looking to get a massive fight in. We got some of our thoughts. We got Ario's thoughts. Let's head out to the Emerald Isle and bring in the Patriots say two days in a row. The boys in the crack. How we do it, Pete Zee? Welcome back, Pete Zee. I'm doing good. I'm doing good.

I just want to say, like, you know, it's a bit of an extra commitment for me to be here today. It's a- Oh, do tell Pete's stuff. What'd you have to do? Write another article or something? Ah, look, me writing other articles, a whole process, GZ. I mean, it's a week off. You can't rush, you know, art like that. Yeah, you know, it's like the Sistine Chapel. Yeah. A blind myself, well, wrong choice of words. Blind myself painting the roof. But no, what it is, lads is, today is one of the biggest feast days in Ireland. And I'm here. You know what I mean? I'm here right in front of you. What do you got? Tell us more. It's a huge day. Yeah. It's very special day. They gather around with, with the family. It's just a very special day.

I don't really know. You keep saying it's a special day, but you don't describe what's happening. National chicken fillet roll day. Oh, well, it's close to that. It's called pancake Tuesday boys.

And it's a very, it's sacrosanct here. And we gather around and we eat pancakes and, you know, we thank the Lord for the gluttony that we can, you know, put all over our bodies and, you know, we put a bit of butter on there and sugar. We, we, maybe a little lemon juice and we eat them.

And, you know, it's a big day. And, you know, all of the carols currently just sitting downstairs there getting stuck into pancakes. And I was like, hang on, guys. I've got to go and do the show. I'm like, what? On pancake Tuesday? And I was like, I know.

It's absolutely insane. The whole nation is shut down for pancake Tuesday. And I'm here. I just want to say that. You're talking about Shrove Tuesday. Some people would call it Trove Tuesday. The end of Shroves tied. You should have just said, man.

We all know that. So God forbid you miss some pancakes. That's what you're saying. Like, you have, you have made a great sacrifice here by, lemon juice. That's all I wanted to, Rick,

if, if, if, if, if, if I was on, he'd be like, he, he knows how important pancake Tuesday is.

Well, he knows every, he knows our national holidays. He knows your national holidays. He knows every day. And so certainly he would have been aware of pancake Tuesday. Lemon? Lemon,

a bit of sugar, G.C, a little bit of butter. You know what I mean? It's beautiful. It's a beautiful combination. It sounds like, some people are Nutella people.

I'm not. I say no. This really sounds like a holiday for the devout. This really, the way you're describing this to me, this sounds like, you know, pious people are the ones participating in this. Well, you know, look, seriously, I'm about my religion. You know, bring it up an awful lot. Yeah, yeah.

Look, Andy knows that she's from a Christian background. Lent begins, you know what I mean? This is the last time before we can be gluttonous pigs before Lent begins and we have to give up something, you know what I mean? So, gosh Wednesday. Yeah. We're going to figure out what can give them. Well, Pee, C, thank you for.

joining us on this pancake Tuesday. I do want to get your thoughts on Ronda Rousey versus Gina Carrano. We've kind of talked about it a little bit. Way in with anything, whether it be the stakes of the fight itself, whether it be a breakdown of the fight. Tell us what your immediate reaction to this fight being announced was. I think you guys did a great job of hitting everything. And obviously, Ariel up top just absolutely just sending heaters all the way from the

Italian mountains. But I'm kind of with GCC on this. It's like the most interesting part. part of this for me is what it means to the industry. I know Ariel touched on it as well. And you make great points about the standard that we're probably about to witness here. But I don't think that's all important in terms of Netflix or after spectacles. They're trying to get as many eyeballs on their product as possible. And I think Rhonda and Gina can absolutely do that. You've already spoken to the stars that they were, that they still are, that they're still cited throughout

the annals of the sport. People still will point to, as G. G. G.C. just said, the home knockout as their biggest memory in the sport. So it covers all those bases, but just in terms of, I know, Ariel touched on this as well, what could this mean beyond this event?

I was kind of speaking about this in terms of Jake Paul and Tyson as well. I wasn't interested in the fight, but it was very interesting on what it meant to boxing. And of course, we've saw that now with Katie Taylor

and Serrano and everything like that. It had some very, very positive reverberations in the sport. What does this mean? is there a real chance of them really getting into this business? Who was a free agent? Like, you know, Ariel brought up the fact that there's an undercard here. Like, I mean, we know there's a lot of free agents right now that have big name value.

I'm just excited to see what it all looks like, the product itself. I know Ariel's working the press conference. Maybe it'll be on the event as well, fingers and toes crossed. But it is very, very interesting when a power player like Netflix gets involved in this. We've seen what MVP have done in boxing, despite all the naysayers. They've done great things for women's boxing. Obviously, this is a women's fight too.

Really just interested in to see if it can shake up the industry. Here's, that's a perfect segue to what I was thinking. And I tried to go this direction with GC earlier, but then I circled back. Here's my biggest take, my biggest stance on this. If I am Dana White or whoever actually makes matches over at the UFC, because Dana White claims it's not him. If I am Dana White, the moment this news came out this morning, I am on the phone with Connor McGregor,

I am on the phone with John Jones. I cannot afford for my White House card to not be the biggest event of the year. I cannot afford a month before, or two months before the White House card for Gina Carrano versus Ronda Rousey to be a massive show. God forbid, if they get somebody big in the co-main event,

if there's a free agent MMA fighter out there, that they lock up in a good matchup, and you add that to Gina Carrano versus Ronda Rousey, there's almost no way that you're going to be able to do a bigger event unless you call Connor McGregor and unless you call John Jones. So if they were banking on the idea of Ilya versus Justin Gaci being the headliner, that would be the moment I would have hopped on the phone

and called one of those boys because I think you have to match this. If the numbers come out on this and it's on Netflix and it's a massive show and I'm a partner at Paramount or somebody within the UFC and I'm looking at this and going, we just paid $7.7 billion dollars and these guys, on Netflix, MVP and Netflix just put on the biggest event of the year, that would feel like a smack in my face. So you better be hustling to get Connor McGregor, because that's what I would be doing.

It's, G.C. said this earlier, and I immediately, I was like, holy shit, he's so correct. It feels to me like there will be no competition in terms of the most few at MMA fight in the world if this comes off, like of the year, excuse me. Because, as you guys know, right, Paramount Plus, that's the U.S. deal, maybe some other parts of North America. In the UK and Ireland, it's, it's TNT sports. UFC is still on there. I couldn't believe all of the Netflix events that they did. You forget how much you log into Netflix on a daily basis. Everybody has it. It's in all these homes, hundreds of millions of homes, and you're turning on Netflix, and from like 10 days out, they're going to be advertising this

stuff. And it's striking when it happens. Like they'll have the pre-fight thing up, they'll have buildup, they'll have all this stuff guiding you towards this event. I think it's a no contest. Am I crazy to think that way? Like GC brought up earlier, the most viewed fight of 2026 if this comes off, I don't think it will even be close. I said the only one that would top it is if they do the White House card on CBS linear and you get Connor McGregor on the card.

Okay. If you get Connor and you put it on CBS, I think they're in the race. If you don't get Connor, you're not in the race, right? Even John versus Alex, I wonder if you're even in the race. This is going to be a massive event. There's going to be so many casual eyeballs on it, as will the White House, right? The White House is going to be a massive event. There's going to be a lot of casual eyeballs on it.

But I think the access to a platform like Paramount Plus and the access to a platform like Netflix are just different. It is not even a competition. And so, man, as I said, that's my first. The moment this news comes out, Connor, it's time. Let's talk. You're back in training camp? Perfect. Let's get this thing signed up.

Okay, so MVP has put on a few Netflix shows now. They did the Mike Tyson one, which got over 100 million views. Yeah. They did Katie Taylor, Manistrarano 3, which was like a little bit over 6 million views. Yeah. Your thoughts, obviously just you're just giving a guess at this point. Where do you think this would fall in terms of that? I don't know, but how much did you say?

20? You didn't say 30? 30 million. 30 million for the kitchen scrap. They sound the same. 2030, 30, 40 are interchangeable in my dialect. 30 million for the kitchen strap. Somewhere in that range.

It's going to be massive. 100 million doesn't feel conceivable. Double digit millions feels very within reach. If they're putting up 20 million, the UFC 324, I think. The numbers came out for that, and it was like 5. something million in terms of viewership. We're talking quadruple, their debut. on Paramount Plus if they're able to garner that that level of audience. You need Connor McGregor.

I'm with you. I think that this has to ignite a little bit of a fire. If not in the UFC offices, it has to ignite one in Paramount Plus, who is a direct competitor with Netflix. And it's just like, wait, I thought we were getting the premier MMA package here with this. And now we're not even going to put on the biggest MMA event of the year. And there's a world where Dana White downplays it and is like, they're doing, I

I love Ronda Rousey, but that's not where we're in. We're in the business of the best fight, the best fight, the best, which, by the way, isn't true at any point anymore. But you can, there's a way to poo-poo this. There's a way to kind of like shove this to the side. The viewership numbers are not going to be shoved to the side. And that's the big problem. Yesterday you talked about a concern with getting Connor McGregor on the White House card

because of potential contract disputes and John Jones getting offered 30 million. If he's going to fight on the white house card, he needs X number of money. if Connor McGregor's contract expires or whatever it plays out to where he's not fighting in the UFC anymore and Netflix has success with this fight what is stopping Connor McGregor from getting a super fight on Netflix?

Nothing. Do you know who else is Rico Verhoeven is kind of knocking around, right? The UFC of kind of his claim that they're interested in him. Imagine he just got signed up for this Netflix guy. What if they did Francis versus Rico

on this card? That's what I'm saying, bro. The Francis thing... There is things they can do that the UFC couldn't do. like if we know that Rico was a target for the UFC and if they somehow signed him to discard and they did the fight with Francis and Gano

like even if they do John Jones and Pereira MVP of the promotional power to ham this up and make it like I don't know like Mayweather v. Connor to some extent obviously not the same not the same scale but like if they have a if they have a supporting cast here

where it's like legitimate fighters and big names like that and you know what I'd love to see as well Like obviously they planted the seeds with the Jake Paul fights. They have these prospects on the undercar that they're trying to build. Like I'm just using these names, for example, these people are under contract. But imagine if they had like a Patrick Cabirora underneath this and they're like, this is our guy.

This is the guy where we're tying this ship to like this is a guy we want to build. Like the possibilities here if these guys are taking this very seriously are quite exciting for the sport. That one feels like a bridge too far for me because they don't have the infrastructure to support like a development, right? Like, I think you have to go to the RICO's. Francis is still under contract with PFL. He had that one fight according to him or Ariel. One of them said basically, like, fight or no fight. His contract has an expiration date sometime this spring.

And so the timing might be tough on the Francis part. Like, he may or may not be available. But to your point, a RICO versus a credible MMA fighter. Like, there's a way to build this card out to make it very appealing. But I think the more interesting angle is the future. G.C. said, which is, if I'm Connor McGregor, and the UFC either does or does not want to pay me the money that I want, if they want to pay me, and I'm going to headline the White House card, and they're giving me a King's ransom, great, let's do business like we did before. I'm all in.

If they don't, let's get, let's get, you know, I think it's two fights. Let's get the two fights done. Let's get out of the UFC. And now there's a home where they're saying, we're going to pay for premium talent like a Ronda Rousey. Who's in that league? Connor McGregor. And so, I would be scared from that perspective. Don't get me wrong. This is not going to compete with the UFC's business, certainly not anytime soon, even if they had those ambitions.

I don't imagine they do. But I do think for top end talent, you now have a problem. And you need to solve that problem. And to me, the solution for that problem is Connor McGregor is back and he's headlining the White House card. Yeah, I personally don't think

a Teporia Gaichi gets it done at this point with this announcement. It's more dire now, in my opinion. before. This will be taking place weeks before. We'll have the numbers fresh off the press come fight week for the UFC White House card of how this was able to do.

Yeah, and a sign is... Does this take away from fans? Like, in terms of MMA fans, if they're kind of moving towards eye catching things like that, like a McGregor return and play some more emphasis on that than Ilya and Gaci. Like, this is...

I know Ilya and Gagey isn't even the fight we really want to see it lightweight, but kind of disregarding the hardcore element of UFC fans for this wayhouse card and kind of stacking it with the looks of McGregor. Do you think that will turn the fan base? Like I feel like every time we bring up a McGregor or a Jones, people would just move on. We're sick of these guys. These guys haven't done anything in so long.

That's a very vocal minority. They also say just move on because we haven't seen him fight in coming up on five years. John Jones has claimed to have retired and now he's saying that he has arthritis as well. If he's actually making the walk and getting in the octagon, all the eyes in the MMA world will be back on that and be the most interested in. They're lying. They're lying. They don't want to move on. They want to see Connor. They're lying. And they're just saying it very loud. Does, right now we have all the UFC fighters being like, I want to fight on the White House car. I want to fight on the White House card. Is it now every retired MMA fighter or fighter not

fighting in the UFC? I want to fight on the Gina Karana or Ranozikarousy car on Netflix. They're going to call on ideas. They're going to probably. Yeah, they've got it. He just talked about Mike Perry, but we'll, I mean, we'll see. They can call Mike Perry too. Hey, it's right there. Obviously, Mike Perry under BKFC contract, they've been in the past. They've allowed him. They've been very willing to allow him. I saw a joke meme tweet, but like, it does make a lot of sense. Just pull up the GFL roster and just start dialing. That's it. Start dialing numbers. Boy, the music too, obviously. Oh, yeah, I mean, you have to get the,

you have to get the music back. But no, it's a massive opportunity for the likes of those people who can fill out the card. But, to me, this is a sign of not competition for the UFC on a week-to-week basis, but competition for the UFC on boasting the biggest number of eyeballs on an event. And I think now Jake Paul and MVP have successfully done that already in boxing, right? They're not competing with, although maybe they soon will be based on how stack their women's roster is, but they're not competing week-to-week with matchroom, right? They're not doing the number of shows.

They're not doing that volume. They may get there, but that's not their competition at the moment. But in terms of who's putting on the biggest events, it's MVP. It's been MVP, and they have taken over the boxing, the biggest events in boxing. For MMA, it's the UFC, and there's no competition. Now there's a competition. Now there's somebody who's coming out and is going to get massive eyeballs on an MMA event. And that's interesting.

Go ahead, Peter. Sorry, G. Are they doing essentially what, obviously without the zoo for numbered events,

but like what, what Dana said he was going to do in boxing? He's going to come in and have these gargantuan events a few times a year that's going to unsettle boxing essentially. Yeah.

Because these are so big because he has this backing. Do you think maybe MVP's goal is to do something like that? Like, okay, forget about these kind of apex events, but three, four times a year,

we're going to just launch a nuke into this industry and just have a massive, massive card with all these different guys. And do you think they can do that? That's my question. That's my question right there is like, can they do of that?

Because we're seeing Jake Paul, you know, tweeting like, oh, you know, I got into judo because of Ronda Rousey. Like normally Jake Paul is a bit of an instigator and a shit talker. Yeah, it's a real moment. I started taking judo because of Rona Rousy. Now I get to work with her in Girono to bring him and Netflix. Here we go, dot, dot, dot. He's not saying the things that Dana is saying about Zufa.

like, you know, we're beating up babies and whatnot, and we're completely taking over the game. I think we need to wait and see on this. This is an incredible first step to go into MMA on Netflix and these massive events. But this time next year, 18 months from now, how many have they put on? Or is this the standalone? And we're sort of wondering, remember when they randomly did MMA on Netflix? Are we ever going to get another one of those? Or are we three events deep on these MMA superfights on Netflix? I think we just need to wait and see. I don't think MVP has to be an MMA promotion. I don't think they can. I don't think it's a sustainable business model because I don't think there's enough talent out there.

Nor do I think that's their ambition. But they are essentially doing that already in boxing, Ptze. Like that is what they do. They put on these big temple events, usually focused around Jake Paul, and they're able to disrupt it that way. If you get the one off, maybe you do one MMA event a year. Maybe you do one every other year. If you can do one of this scale, that's all you need to do because it still is great business for Netflix.

It's still great business for MVP, and then you can parlay that into something else. If in two years, Connor McGregor is out of contract, let's do one with him. If in a year from now, Francis Inganu is out of contract. Let's do one with him. You just have to pick and choose those opportunities. I don't think you want to start a rival MMA promotion.

I don't think it'll be a full promotion. Jake Paul and MVP have a way of getting creative with things. Jake Paul making his debut on Netflix, getting a boxer to fight MMA against Jake Paul. Yep. There's ways that they can get creative with this. So I just want to see as the time goes on, do they go back to this MMA well multiple times?

It is incredible, isn't it? Like that for so long we've been kind of sitting around saying like UFC, like there's absolutely no one near them, which is true. PFL, you're nowhere near them. They're in, like, we're worried about what's going to happen to PFLB on 2026. Anyone who tries to get into this industry can't hold a flame to them. And now these guys haven't had an event yet. And we're like, this is going to be the biggest fight at 2026.

Like that is an incredible space to be in within this industry. Like that really hasn't existed for so long where someone can just come in and put a massive Uno car down the table and be like, well, this is what we're going to do. Like that, that is just insane by itself, right? Like, it's pretty much unprecedented in MMA right now or our husband for the last decade or so. Or am I over-agging this? No, it's, it is a disruption and it is a new thing. The point we've all kind of circled around in this last little bit, though, is what's the longevity for it, right?

Is this just going to be the one flash or is there going to be some kind of like continued momentum that they're able to build with this? I don't think they will disrupt the UFC's business long term, but I do think as I, as I, have very clearly stated already, you don't want to be outperformed by them if you're the UFC and you're going to the White House this year. You do not want to look down at the ratings on every MMA event that came out this year and be number two.

And so that is something that forces your hand a little bit. Now, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the UFC goes, I don't give a, you know, Dana White says, I don't give a fuck about what they're doing. I'm just going to do what I'm going to do, which is probably what he's going to say at the next press conference. I feel like that's exactly what he's fantastic. That's fantastic, but that's not reality.

In the back rooms and at Paramount, that's not what they're after. They want those ratings that Netflix is going to bring in for this card. So interesting times, but the longevity is going to be fascinating. We showed the Jake Paul tweet. I want to look at some of the other tweets because this is one of those moments where now you see people reacting to this news that are very excited about what's to come. It doesn't happen for every fight. We see John Wood, who's been coaching Gina Carano.

Well, here we go. this should be a fun one. Let's fucking go. Another one from John Wood. Honor to make that walk with you. Let's do this. Chris Cyborg, a former opponent of Gina Carano is coming out to say, let's go, Gina Carano.

A former opponent, it's her last opponent in 2009. And the fact that Cyborg is still fighting today is insane. How many fights does Soyborg have on our contract? A media question. Gina Carano wins. We're doing a rematch. If Rhonda wins, we can do that bad way. Where's Holly home?

How many fights does she have on her boxing contract? What is going on? Since that fight against Gina... And is she exclusive to boxing? If she's not, sign it up. Let's do it. Have them all there. Every fucking one of them better be there.

You know what I mean? Like that is... Oh yeah. Get them in the crowd. That was Gina. That was Chris Iborg's ninth professional fight against Gina Carano. She now has 31 professional fights. So she's fought 21 times.

22 times since... And boxing fights as well. Oh, yeah. Yo, how crazy is this? Like, women's MMA was the thing that Dana once said is never going to be in the UFC. He brought it in tremendously successful. And now it's being weaponized against him.

To a certain degree, yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy. Let's continue along with the reactions. Go to Detuba. I'm so gassed. Oh, G, G, G, G, G, G, G, G. Maybe she throws her name in the hat.

I think she's a free agent. Did you have an 80s seven fights left on a TV? Do we have any others? No, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, didn't we? Wee, Rhonda, yeah. And that's an oi, oi, Rhonda.

Hey. Travis Barker. Hey, shout out to Travis Barker. Wait. Dreams really do come. Travis Baker. Who is this? Oh, okay.

This is Travis Baker. This is my online fitness coach, so. So, uh, yeah, Travis. Getting real fit these days. Thanks to him. Appreciate you grabbing that one. Shout out. Good job, Jordan.

You got your coach? Shout out Travis Baker. Peezee, what do you make of the hexagon? situation? Not a lot, you know? I'm just like, let's just, you know, strap yourself in and feel the G's with this one. Let's just have a look at it.

I don't, I like a bit of variety. I don't, I think I've watched fights. Well, you certainly have watched hexagon fights. Who am I to, really, we should be asking you, G.C., what do you think of the hexagon being used in this manner? Are hexagon FC getting a payout and should they be getting a payout? Obviously, it was a big part of your picks this year. a lot of walkouts from hexagon,

I know you keep up today. You tell me what you think of the hexagon, well, you know, obviously they're forced to do this because of the UFC with the trademark on the octagon. It leads you to wonder,

is hexagon lacking by not trademarking the hexagon themselves and really putting Netflix in a pickle here? They've left themselves wide open for this. I mean, my God. Speaking of wide open for this. Okay. Holly Holme might be wide open for the fight.

Shout out for Ben Hefner. What a transition. Shout out to Ben Hefner, our encoder who reminded me Holly Holie Holm is with MVP. Oh shit, of course. Holly home is a fucking Oh, great point.

Great point. People would watch the shit out of a rematch between Rousy and Holly Home. It's right there. It's just do it. Women's MMA, coming back to somehow unsettle the UFC is one of the wildest things

ever. It's absolutely insane. I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of intrigued by the fight. Like as they're making the walkouts and the fight is about to start. I'm pretty intrigued by the fight. I'm not at a, I'm not at a, I'm not ratcheted all the way to attend.

But the implications that come from the Netflix, what could happen with Gina and Rhonda after this, what fights are to be made, how does the UFC respond to it? It's fascinating to me. I think it's huge for the sport of MMA. I have to watch this fight. We all have to watch this fight. It's like, like, if you're an MMA fan at all, you have to watch this fight. If you're, like, think about the cultural moments Rhonda had, like, you, Beyonce

sampling her in a song the do nothing bitch thing the book she had it's like number one bestsellers and shit like this is entourage as as uh rick stated earlier expendables like this is this is a kind of a musty event and that's what obviously netflix are looking to do and honestly the more we've kind of teased this out and we're talking about holly home and stuff there's a natural fight there beyond this for either either of the women that win really like there is there is at least won two more fights you can put on with either of these two women depending on the winner I feel

let's not forget either man like she at her peak the star power that she carried oh my god like behind McGregor and and Habib there's definitely McGregor and Habib and then her and then her and Habib only because

after the series of McGregor of McGregor McGregor makes Habib into what he is it's her it's her and Connor massive stars of the stars. And the fact that they got a B-side in Gina Carrano, there will be eyeballs on this thing. There will be eyeballs just three months away from the showdown in Los Angeles at the Intuit Dome. Intuit Dome is going to be the star of the night. I can tell you that much. Ptie, you got to get back to the pancakes or you sticking around for on the nose.

No, no, let's do some on the nose. Come on, Pete. You don't leave. Look, this rick guy, I mean, it's absolutely essential. Grab a stack and join us, man. I'd love that some flapjack's right now. Pizza. Elaine, the pancake! That's the Nutella the lemon! Sorry to our friends over in finance. Can you text somebody to bring you up pancakes while you're on air right now?

Oh, that'd be great. I got, thank you. They're not looking at their phones. There's pancakes. They've got butter all over their hands. There's no one down to stairs, is there? There's no one down the stairs, is there? They've cleared out.

It would be disrespectful to the holiday to also ask them to do that. You know, they're locked in right now. and being pious. All right. All right. We've got the aerialhawani.com. On the nose. We've got the intro.

And it looks like we got about 60 questions to go through. Who wants to start? Are we doing the rotating again, Frankie? You're getting in on this? Petezy, are you, are you, do you have the substack open

or do you want us to just throw them out and you can respond? Just throw them out. All right, all right. I actually subscribed as well. I paid the upfront dough and everything for that. Let me go first. I'm going to go first.

All right, go ahead, Rick. You should go first. Thanks, Frank. Thanks for the vote of confidence. All right. Left Leg Cemetery asks. I'm going to the Houston Rodeo in a couple weeks. Shout out, Forest Frank. Shout out. My question is this. As a fellow son of the South, can we get your... Oh, sorry, this is for you, Goat Conner. He says...

Hey, shout out, shout out, appreciate it. As a fellow son of the South, can we get your blind rankings of these five rodeo events? Oh, hell yeah, yeah, absolutely. Number one, there's five. Okay. Five events. Number one. Barrow racing women. Okay, three. That's a nice middle ground to start with.

Bull riding. You see some crazy shit with bull riding. I don't know what's going to be left. I'm going to go one, though. One is strong for that. Team roping. Okay. Team roping is that lessowing?

Four for me, a team lassoing. That's what they're doing. Various objects, you know, things. I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of bullshading my way through this. I've been to one rodeo in my entire life. Rodeo is more Texas, not as much Georgia. A fellow son of the South.

Yeah, I'm bullshitting my way. All right. Mutton busting, kids? Okay, mutton busting kids. Is it clear two? Yeah, clear two. You have no idea. I'm sticking with a...

Beating up babies. It sounds good, lads. If I accuse someone of mutton busting around here. I actually see it. Mutton busting rodeo. Oh, it's like kids. Kids riding on muttons. This is like beating up babies.

Mutons are like goats. Number five, bulldoging. Bulldog. Lance, this is. Bull dogging. You guys say this, but it immediately comes up on Google. Oh, that's where you like, oh, it's like a small bull and you like take it down by the horns. Holy shit.

Oh. That would be my two, actually. I'd go bull riding, bulldogging, mutton busting, the barrel roll women, barrel roll. Go to jail for all of these things here. I just want to say. Barrel row. I feel bad for exposing that you're not as locked in. I'm not going to lie.

I feel no shame. Rodeos just haven't been my thing. I've been to maybe two in my whole life. Barrel racing is a woman on a horse going around barrels. Yep. That's my five. What does not mean? Sorry, that was a massive letdown here.

Okay. Baked Bean says, Hey, boys in the back with Dana White's recent rant. What do you think the two options are? Do you think he means for the main event and the other fights are a lock or two options for the whole card? I... Is my crazy low for you guys

Or is that just me? It sounds like he's whispering. He was a little low. He was a little bit low, but he probably just fucked up something on your end. He was referring to the White House card, yeah? Mm-hmm.

Okay. He said baked beans. He said there were two options. Does he, do we think that that's two options for the main event or two cards that he's constructed that it's like pick one or the other? I think it's two options for the main event. I agree. That's what they've come up with.

You agree with this, yes? Surely. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think they'll just. just have filler slots below it. Six, seven fights. All right.

Beating up babies. Shout out. You go. This is a perfect opportunity for Jake Paul to come out with that. It's like we're beating up babies. Okay, you watch says Eric's Gable Glazing is such a casual fan take. Where's my fucking... I'm glad Pizzi gave some pushback.

He is never going to hold gold, and I bet you he will even be a classic 50-50 fighter. Oh, yeah? Let Rick, let him go. Let him go. And when he comes to the UFC, mark my words, he is too much hype for having done nothing in mixed martial. This is the, I don't think this person is serious. What's their name?

You watch. You watch. He's saying you watch Gable be an average UFC fighter. If Gable Steeveson is a 500 fighter in the UFC, I was about to say I'll leave this program. I don't think I can put that on the line. If Gable Steeveson, he takes two fights and he loses one of them. if Gable Stevenson is a 500

UFC fighter in the UFC I will be a I will accept I will eat crow I will accept a punishment After how many fights After how many fights though It's a 500 fighter If you do your fucking plan He has one fight and fights for the title

So he has one fight Lose the title fight And you're like I have to do this crazy shit now You have to actually eat crow A New York City crow We'll go catch a pigeon And cook it here in the office

Look it out of the sky We'll figure out of punishment We will figure out a punishment. But I will take my medicine. There's no way. There's no fucking way. You've seen the UFC heavy weights. 50-50 is crazy.

To have that take is way crazy. Bucrecher should just happen, dude. Buchetian got beat by Martin Boudethe who got absolutely redloin by Will Fleury in our country. It's going to talk about my takes and then continue to come to me. They come back at me with quite possibly the dumbest shit ever uttered. Every single time, without fail, they criticize my takes and then they say something. something so stupid on the back end that I just can't take it seriously. It is beyond reason.

It is beyond comprehension and understanding. The idea that it's like, your gable glazing is unbelievable. You're an idiot. By the way, he's going to be 500 in the UFC. Here's the best part. Good one. You're either going to be right or he's either going to be right. Yeah, I like that.

We're going to get to find out. He's either going to be a long, raining heavyweight goat or, uh, yeah. Yeah, Marcus Bucci. Heavyweight Aaron Pigo. That's it. One of the other. Gable Steve's an Olympic gold medalist who's just flatlining people with his hands now. That guy's just going to lose to Sergey Spivak on a random Saturday.

Ods for now. Olympic medalist didn't go so hot for him. He's not flatlining Sergey Spivaks of the world right now. We've got to get here. We've got to get here first. No, he's flatlining the current competition. He's not going to... All right.

You know, well, the jury's out. I like my chances. All right, you're up. Read a question. All right, let's go with... Do, do, do, do, do, do. Well, if you're not ready. Islam's flambotomist?

Hey, guys, is there a greater people's main event than Prachas versus Morales? Guaranteed fireworks. If that's how the matchmaking goes down, does that mean it's likely we get Usman versus Islam and J.D.M. versus Balal. Ian seems content.

Let's just end there. It seems like we're getting Ian versus... Got X right there at the end, didn't it? It seems like we're getting Ian versus... I think we're getting Ian versus Islam. Islam. Which would give us Prochus versus Morales potentially. I'm in agreement.

Especially at 170, that's the people's main event. What do you do with a Balal and a JDM? Do you do JDM versus one of them to not pair up morale as and process who seem like they're on the way to the title? I don't know. I mean, I feel like you get the auto title. Someone gets knocked out. A star is born.

It's incredible fight. I'm down for it. There's so much... don't think JDM versus one of them would be just as good striking guys? It would be a fantastic one, but I just love their personalities and their capability to get knockouts. I don't want to kill one of them off. I don't want to do it.

I'm okay with it. That is going to be the UFC's point of view. I agree with you. I love the fight. I love Moralesby Pratchez. I'd be so happy if it got announced. But I do feel like Rick has a point in terms of the UFC never want to put two fan favorite strikers like exciting styles against each other when they're like, we could have both of these

guys for the total. I also don't feel like JDM versus either one of them is much of a downgrade in terms of striking excitement. I feel like that's up there. Like I... The Lowell versus Michael Morales would be, you know, would be... I feel like UFC would be happy with that. Yeah, I do think they'd be happy with that.

There is some banana peels there, yeah, for sure. No, I think they'd be very happy with that one and they'd be rooting for an individual outcome. It is a banana pill. It is a banana peel. Without the sex. All right. Who's up? Frank? He was doing it.

sex. Slava Pee says, hey, boys in the back, does the YouTube delay exist for digital reasons, or do you give yourselves a few seconds in case something wild happens and you have to cut it off? Regardless of the answer, what's the closest you would have come to cutting the feed? My guess is the Bryce Mitchell interview. Thanks for the great content, comma, Slava P. No, there is no dump button here. There's no escaping. It's not like radio where you can just hit a dump button and all is forgiven. we would just have to completely go off the air if we were going to do that. Like, they say the Bryce Mitchell one,

but like we weren't actually close to like cutting the cord or anything. It was compelling. I would, I would say that it would take like a nearly catastrophic event to make us go off the air. So it's never come close. No.

One, and then two, it's not for anything about the digital. I mean, I guess the encoding process takes time. So there is. But he's saying is there, like did we build it in and the answer is no. It's not a like we're not doing a broadcast type thing or we're adding an cushion. It's a physical reason that we're not able to do it in real time. Can we tell the

lose the bug story? Sure. I mean that's that is a good one yet. We don't we don't cut the cord but we sometimes we have to lose the bug. We used to have a sponsor in the in the bug at our old stomping grounds and yeah things like the Price Mitchell interview or a Mazvedal chiefing on a blunt. It became a bit of a control room. catchphrase, hashtag lose the bug. Yeah, and that would be... Beating up babies. That would be on the basis of

we are representing the sponsor. Exactly. We don't want to associate them necessarily in a way that they don't want to be. So we have to be cognizant of that. But it doesn't change the show flow at all. We've never been close to like, let's go off air. Also, actually, the closest

is when we actually did kind of when Mayhem Miller ruin the set and literally left the studio and Ariel chased after him, but that was because Ariel's not in the studio. That was catastrophic. Yeah. And B, especially if it's a Zoom interview, we're never going to go off the air. Yeah.

Ariel would just end the interview. Yeah. Like if someone was just saying some crazy, reckless shit, he would just be like, all right, all right, all right. I think we're done here. That's over. Let's bounce. There were times at ESPN we had to actually go off the air, not because of anything that

someone said, but transmission wouldn't put in people's names on FaceTime. so if they hung up quickly and we didn't cut the camera. Classic. Numbers, unfortunately. Who's got shown, Roses?

Guys, let's not rehash old, let's not open old ones, all right. Which is tough. But yeah, we're not going off there, bro.

We're not going off there. Yeah, no, and no, this is, this is as live as it gets. To Frank's point, there is some transmission delay,

but there is no, like, hey, let's, let's hold this so that somebody has time to insert a bleep or do a censorship.

Oh, yeah, I mean, I'm pulling up the feed right now. Like, we're talking like, it's like 10 seconds. Yeah. That's fucking illegal. All right, I got one. Or wait, is it your turn or my turn?

Yeah, my turn, my turn, my turn, my turn. What's up, boys? That's the one I was going to read. Oh, all right, I'll read it then. What's up, boys? Inspired by the Psycho in your building with office restroom requests. I want to get your thoughts on regarding public restroom life. Okay, I love this.

If you enter the restroom for a number two and notice there's one to two other deusers in the stalls, do you follow through or bail and try again later? Um, sorry. There's, if the stalls open, let's treat it like Daytona, baby. Let's go four wide. I'm not worried about anything.

If I got to go, I'm going. I'm not, I'm not waiting for more stalls to open up if there's an open stall. Yeah, absolutely. It's a look for that situation at that point. You're going in, drop one off in public. It's, it's happening. You're in there. You know, you know what the stakes are. I need to get rid of this now or it's going to ruin my day.

And I don't care who else is there. I'm not going to stand around a wait though. I'm not going to do that. I'll rather pursue another toilet. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm going. I'm moving. I've got to keep moving here.

If I stand still, I may soil myself. So keep moving. It's like traffic. You'd rather drive for an hour where you're moving than be stuck in traffic for 45 minutes. You want to keep the option to open. You really want to keep the hope a lot. that you're going to find an open stall sometime soon. As a number two or do you wait for number ones to finish an exit

before making your own exit to avoid the shame and awkward interaction? Well, this is overthinking. There's no shame. No, no, no. I'm actually, I'm with you on this. If I know someone's at the sink washing their hands, I'm going to wait for you to clear out. Especially at work, you see the co-worker, you get to the sink. This is not something ideal. You're washing the hands.

Shh. Wait, so P.T. You were answering... What's up, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you doing? You were answering this question as if you're in your house doing this?

No, no, but like, if I'm in public... You're like, oh, I don't deal with this. Yeah, no shit, Peezy. No, I don't have an office situation where I'm going to see the same lads in the Jax every day. Do you know what I mean? That's a different situation.

So if it was, put yourself in those shoes. If you have to look them in the eye, if it's Frank. I still don't really understand what you're saying here. Like, I'm in and I'm dropping one off. Yeah. And there's someone out there. And you know them. I've walked past them to drop one off.

No, no, no, no, no, no. They walked in to go number one while you were going number two. Now they're sitting at the sink washing your hands. You can wait 45 seconds so they leave or you're just going to bust out of the door. What's up, man? How you doing? Start washing the hands. I'd just be like, listen, just took a massive shit.

What's sorry to you, man? So you're not only just not hiding it. You're volunteering. You're telling them what happened. The nightmare scenario that happens to all. often in the workplace. Someone gets in the stall right next to you. You see their shoes. You recognize the shoes and you're like, I got damn it. Okay. I literally pitch it off and leave. No, no, no, Frank. No, you don't because I'm next to Frank too often. And then he has this habit of

being like, oh, what's up, man? How are you doing? Yels it throughout the bathroom. And then I have to text them and be like, there's other people in here, man. Like, have some respect. Boy uncles, if like our family dues, they know it's your shoes on there. They'll just launch into it. what time you know you're playing tomorrow and you're just like they're just talking to you while you're just like as if it's completely normal man it's completely normal you're you're what I mean but in that scenario where you know that there's somebody next to you that you know isn't that kind of a safe space yeah it's hilarious but when there's other people in the stalls in a guy at the urinal and frank's like oh here we go man let's do it's like it's a little bit awkward and then it's not you

what's up got her talking to somebody who doesn't know he's sliding his foot under my stall he's like Connor, what's up, man? Connor Birx, how you doing, dude? Uncrowned, what's up, man? Shitting on the job? What's up, man? Like, Jesus, dude. Chill out, Frank.

Okay, I think this is an accurate representation of my disposition, which is I don't welcome interaction. Like, if I know I can wait 30 seconds, I'll wait 30 seconds, I'm not trying to court it. But I'm also not, like, terrified of it. Okay. I don't, I'm not terrified of it. Rattles you, Rick. The nothing rattles you. It's always just, yeah, okay.

Okay. Business needs to get done. Here we go. As a number one, is it your duty to get in and out ASAP and minimize potential eye contact with the deucers? I try to get in and out as fast as possible anyway. That's my default. I'm in and I'm out because that leads him to say restroom conversations in general.

No. I'm not a huge fan of it. If it's my boys, like, within our team, yes. If it's a person that works in another department, they're like, hey, man, how's it going? Like, did you see Rhonda Rousey's fighting Gina Carrano? I'm just like, yeah. Yeah, I did see that. I just eat chilly.

I'll be right back, bro. Okay. Is I right? I need to go and check that out now. Sorry, goodbye. Here is a very, very rare one that has happened to me in this office. Uh-oh. Twice.

Oh, shit. It's nightmare scenario. You're in the bathroom. You're doing your business. You're in the middle of it. Someone comes into another stall and pukes. What do you do? This is truly the moment I have been waiting for.

It's happened to me fucking twice here. Look, man, I get sick sometimes, right? To the point now where I am scared if someone comes in a little bit too quickly paced, I'm like, oh no, is it about to happen again? Is it going to happen again? Hold on. Were they on their knees, like, curled over the toilet? No, no, no, no.

Like sides of the of the stall. man, they just like puked in the middle of the day? This is crazy. Once was fresh off the break, so I think they got a stomach bug from, uh,

from like being home for the holidays. And then the other one was a day where like, one or two people got sick from having lunch here. Oh, wow. Or someone has a medical problem. That's here. Someone just throw,

people behind. Has this ever happened to you, right? You're in and you're in number two position. Yeah. Someone comes in and they're in number two position. beside you, everyone's enjoying themselves doing whatever they have to. And it's taking their time. Like, this is a safe space for me.

I'm not feeling any intimidation by eye contact with pissers or whatnot. And then you get. There's no toilet roll in here. Oh, God. And they just. Hey, man. I would never enter a stall without checking for the people. And then a little hand, a little hand comes in.

No, hell, no. You put your hand down there? You put your hand down there. I'm putting a foot to it. I'm putting a foot to it. He just asked Frankie when he had the cast. You just wanted to end. You just go, whatever, whatever.

Take it all. Take it all. Yeah. So at the end of the day, there's no better feeling than a private solo with the lock that turns. And then it's a giant red sign that says taken. Because this is my last thing I'll say on it. We spent way too long on this. No, no.

In New York, New York has by far the worst bathroom situation in all of America. Most places don't even have a bathroom or they say they're out of order. Or if they do have it, talking about a restaurant, it's a tiny little closet, one person for a... Three stories down. Three stories down for a hundred-seater restaurant. So if you're in an emergency situation, the second, the second your ass hits the toilet seat, just door handle, just... Door handle.

Oh, Jesus. And then you're all right in there? And it's just, it's a nightmare scenario. It's a nightmare scenario. You need the solos. Ten solos lined up with each other. A lock that's just like, when you lock it, it's just like... giant red sign that's like someone is in here.

Leave them the fuck be. Final question. Final question. I have one more. We're going to move on. Someone's in, right? You're in one of these toilets.

Someone starts shaking door. How aggressive do you got? Because I go to tan immediately. I hit him with a yeah, one sec. One sec. And then if they're like, someone in there,

man, get someone in there. I'm like, all right, chill, chill, chill out for a second. It's the worst.

Yeah. That's what I would hit him back with. Yeah, man. And sometimes I even just laugh off if I'm just like taking a piss and like the second I close the door it's just like hey man you're gonna do it's just like chill out for two seconds happens me all the time can I just say when you're sitting in there and someone jiggles the door it's locked and then two minutes later

they're like let me jiggle the door again because you know maybe it's unlocked in the two minutes yeah I checked I'm getting very aggressive at that stays Jordan it's it's not good you guys are so shy everybody poops everyone pukes you know just do it in public do it out here just Shitting everywhere. Just, Jordan just shitting and puking everywhere he goes. Sorry about that. Hey guys, I'm shit now.

You gotta start washing your fruit, man. You got to start washing your fruit. That's why my fiber intake is so high. They're fucking the, the last thing I'll say on it, I promise this time. Guys, stop saying last thing I say when we're doing five more minutes on it. The coffee shop set up in New York is atrocious.

It's a place where you're literally going to drink something that gets the pipes moving like that. And then they're just like, sorry, man. No bathrooms here. And you're just like, dude, God damn it. It's just a nightmare. Or they're like, yeah, we got a bathroom. Go ahead and take this key, make your walk a shame, and it's a one-seater, and there's 50 patients in here.

What is the shame? Everybody, there's literally a book called Everybody Poops. Yeah, we all know it. It's a fact scenario, though. You're not going to see those people again, so what, fuck it. It's not that I care. It's not that I care, but it's just like, it's just the whole, the one-seater. It's just like, come on, like, coffee shops.

Coffee shops should be like, you. should have a Buckees type setup, like a gas station type setup. There should be 15 stalls if you're going to a coffee shop. Having children really changed my perspective on this. Not from a like I felt one way and change it, but like I've gotten so used to inopportune bathroom scenarios that I kind of care less now. Like if you have to go to the bathroom and your kid has to go to the bathroom and you've got to find it and this is the only thing available, I've kind of gotten used to like, eh, there's no great way to do this.

Let's just go. Let's just go. Let's just figure it out. I mean, that's how you get when it gets dire. I had to stop up there in traffic. It's just dire. In a rough, rough spot the other day. And like you open the door and you're just like,

and your standards get so low. You're just like. See, no, G.C. We walk into a bad one if there's shit on the walls and piss everywhere. I'm walking out and going, I'm not, I'm not, do you know what's going on back there? That was not me. I'm just letting you know. You tell them proactively?

I sit there. Let everyone in here know that whatever happened in there has nothing to do with me. That's what I'd say. This is possibly... Says the guy with shit all over his hands. This is possibly the longest on the nose end of the term all time. And it's about taking your shit. We have to move on.

Frank, no, no, no, I got one. I got one. Actually, I got two. They're going to be... If there's any pizza specific ones, let's go. They're both for pizza. They're both for pizza. Worship says, hello, BITB.

Question for Pizzi. How do we fix the NBA? Slam dunk contest. This weekend, it was abysmal. Tell me how we make it better. You guys are the best. Pizzi, solve the NBA's issue.

How about they have to drink before they do it? He actually did do it. You're like, you're like, right, you're going to have, we're going to start off three shots of tequila. Let's see what you can do. And just keep escalating to the boys are shit-faced. And basically,

if you can dunk it after you've had, these are big guys, like 20 shots of tequila, you win. You know what I mean? That's what I'm going with. straight off the dome. You already had that one prepped and ready to go.

Yeah, it's done. I think you just saved it. That would be... Usually, I think Irish, the suggestion is, let's just add alcohol and hope for the best, which you'll find out very soon, G.C. This one's tent. Oh, yeah. The flights, book the hotels.

I'm set. I'm going to send you the itinerary. Okay, do, do, do. We're doing the Guinness tour. I'm doing connoisseur level. I'm dropping the money. You coming with or what? Oh, shit.

Yeah. Well, I have suggestions, too. I need the suggestions. I'm going to send you an it. I was walking the dog today. about what can we do with G.C. when he's here. And I have some suggestions. I've been dreaming. Uh, got to get a chicken fillet roll. Got to do that. Absolutely. I got to see, I got to see the attic. I got to see the setup. I got to come

out meet, meet the pub, meet Elaine. It's happening. And if you shit in my house, the pub will be waiting outside to just let you know how to go, buddy. That's what he does. He's going to be banging on the door. He's going to be scratching on the door the second I close it. I'm just sad you missed pancake Tuesday. That would have been an experience. It's not, like, I've not quite missed it. You know, if I get out of here, I'm talking about GCC. It was there for pancake Tuesday. One last one.

The trees, the edibles, whatever, and the cliffs. That's the, that's the combo right there. Sunset cliffs. I might know a guy. I might know a guy that could sort that out. This is the perfect segue. Jacob Pacheco says, hey, boys in my sack. Don't love that.

It's boys in the crack. This was 4GC, but I'm pivoting. This is going to be for Pizzi and instead. Blind rank these places to have a smoke. Yeah. Are we talking, haters? You decide.

Heaters, eaters, heaters, heaters. Number one, there's five. Five of them to blind rank. Number one, smoking in the rain.

Five, because I'm getting, well, I'm not enjoying it. Five. Two, smoking on a bench in public. It's a really good,

it's a powerful. Yeah. Next to people. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're outside. What the fuck? Move.

You know what I mean? Blow smoke on their face? Yeah, well, I mean, it's a free world. If you're a real chief or you know where to put this one.

You know, I thought Americans were all big on freedom, Frank. What the fuck is this? Number three, okay? Smoking bright and early in the morning, like a first morning cigarette. Depends if you've had a few in a night before, it's not going down well. But if you're on a fresh pair of lungs, maybe haven't happened, have one in a few days. And you're just like, you know what, I'm going to rip a heater as I walk this dog down the road. I don't care who sees me.

That's a number two. You think the lungs reset every night? Smoking on the shitter. We call it the Elvis Presby. Wasn't that eating? Well, you see, you're switching up aromas there to the point where it's like, right? Switching over romas? You know, but then it's like you're, oh, no, because you're taking deeper breaths if you're on the shit.

That would be five if we go back in time. That's a lot. It's four. It's four. All right. So what do you have left? One? One.

I've got one left. Smoking in your car with the window down in traffic. Do you feel good about that? Yeah, absolutely. All right. That's better than the bench, you feel like? Hotbox everyone in the car as well. No, no, windows down.

Windows down. Windows down. You better, shoulder out. Yeah, yeah. On a warm spring day. Believe this shit. Yeah, we do, Frank. We do.

You know what I mean? Yeah. No, you nailed it. Good job, Peece. All right, Frankie, you go. All right. Hi, all. Not to be a downer on things,

but I've been a fan of the UFC since late 2015. And I'm finding the fan base, particularly MMA, Twitter. to be at its most negative and toxic since I first followed. The reaction to Tom Aspinall in particular is making me lose faith in the fandom. What are your thoughts? Yeah, it's pretty negative. It's pretty negative. Like, it's pretty bad, man.

Like, there is not a ton of positivity on the timeline, especially on Twitter, specifically Twitter. Yes, definitely. It's also like, right now, if I go on Twitter, it's just, I get, like, John the notifications thing is like, it's all, always 20 and it's always just a lot of French Jews arguing amongst themselves. Like, I'm not even involved. They're just like, it's going, man. But like, you know, I'm kind of used to it, I guess. I think it was when this force popped up, it was a bit more like, what the fuck is going on here?

I'm kind of conditioned to the negativity and vitriol, I would say. Is that sad that we're conditioned to it? Yeah. Should we be? But I mean, if you're not, you better leave the sport. Yeah, do we deserve better than this? I don't know. It's the sport.

It's the aspirin thing is like a very MMA story because of it, right? Like the vitriol from the fan base that like just not believing him every step of the way. Like I was talking to Rick on the phone yesterday and we were saying like even if this guy was walking around

with a pair of blacked out glasses and a guide dog and when I'm sticks, people be like, no, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like he, like anything could be the case at this stage. I just be like, I don't believe it. No matter what he does, there's no person that doesn't believe it who's all of a sudden going to believe it.

And it just all moves down to, they're saying he is lying. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's afraid. Yes. Tom Asmorel is lying because he's afraid of Serogon. He was losing the fight. He's afraid of fighting at all.

Yeah. All right, here we go. Hi, boys. We all know featherweight is the goat division of top champions. What division is the second best? Ooh. Thanks, Tom. Man.

Wait, wait. You talk about lineage. Oh, lightweight's a great. And Habib. I feel like it probably is light weight. God, lightweight is good, huh? Charles Olvera. I'm trying to look at lineages right now.

Here we go. I got it right there. Heavyweight's pretty fucking good. Now that John's in it. The champ in heavyweight's always been good. You know what I mean? You get, you get Cain, JDS, Mere, Bordume, steep. Like, you get a lot of good fighters.

Okay, can I read you lightweight? Lloyd heavyweight's good as well. Yeah, sorry, go ahead. Jen's Fulver, John Shirk, BJ Penn, Frankie Edgar, Benson Henderson, Anthony Pettis, RDA, Eddie Alvarez, Connor McGregor, Habib, Charles Olivera, Islam Makashev, Elliot DePorea.

That's pretty, that is fantastic. You know what's a... Chuck, you get John, you get D.C. You know what's a sneaky one, though? Middleweight. You know why? I understand. You get G.

GSP. Shit. You get GSP and Anderson. Not bad. Yeah, that's pretty good. That's a sneaky one. The problem is the rest of it. Like, you get Whitaker, you get Adasanya, you get Hamzot, you get Drickis.

Like it's pretty good. That's pretty good. No, but is that better than getting Islam and Habib and then whoever else feels like a cheat. That feels like a cheat code. Connor McGregor. And Connor is like pretty. Not going to lie. Flyweight's not bad.

DJ, Sehudo, Figgie, Moreno, Pantosia, and Van. I would dare say, I think lightweight's actually the best one. I don't think it's featherweight, but I think the specialness of featherweight is the limited company, right? Every featherweight champion is an absolute legend goat status, like, no doubt. I think that's what makes it so special. It's not necessarily. Pound for pound, yeah. Lightweight, if you're just doing championship lineage, you're not, you can't mess with lightweight.

Lightweight is pretty insane. Yeah. glamour division for the UFC. All right, Frankie, read one. Got one here. Says, His Holiness, Rick and Georgia Connor, an honor of one year since you cut to Yahoo Finance, I love to know your thoughts on the dramatic increase in hyperscalor KPEX.

Are the fears that the market is implying justified, or is this just a buy-the-dip moment? Additionally, we'd love to get your line for the amount of rate cuts you all predict for this year. Appreciate your financial commentary. Do you guys remember this? event? No, I don't. What happened? It was like we had an audio takeover from one of the other studios in the middle of the show. When Rampage was on? Yeah, I do remember that. I don't know shit

about Bynar. I'm not thinking of it. I for one appreciate it. I'm down memory lane. Bo Goforth says, I'm not convinced that Eddie Hearn is not the voice of the Geico Gecko. They've lost me. Also, Frank, please bring back the meow drop. I should do that. Wasn't that just a recording of you saying it? Nope. That was not bad. Here's one from Mikey Z. The interviews you guys have been doing have been great.

I think you guys should keep doing more. Thank you for that. But maybe instead of the bigger names, how about giving newer or lesser known guys a platform, a Stephen Aspland, Angel Pacheco, Ty Miller, etc. You guys already do the work to familiar yourself in your audience with up-and-comers.

It'd be cool to see you guys talk to them as they're starting to work their way up. I don't think that's out of the question. You've sold out, guys, by the sounds of that. No, just because we talk to Mario Batista after a big UFC main event win, doesn't mean we're too big for the We're not too big for anyone. He also has a suggestion. My suggestion might be time to retire, replace pound for pound, as it seems like one third of the host kind of mails it in, not saying any names, but who's the check?

Well. What do we think? I think pound for pounds is as strong as ever. Are we running out? Are we running out of pound for pound ideas? We've done a lot. Oh, a quick follow-up one. Not related, but interesting.

MBE 28 says, Hello, boys. Got a quick one for you. We're going to get wasted and play blackjacket and muckle shoot in March? Have a good show. If you're there, we're there. Sounds like a good time.

Well, flights and hotels have been booked for Ireland. They've also been booked for the muck, baby. We will be there. Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night? Yeah, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night.

At the muck, baby. Yes, sir. We'll be running around. Running around in the muck. And then UFC Seattle. It's going to be fantastic. I can't wait for it. G.C.

Yes, sir. Can I get the most Scalzer accent? They have a quote, a bottle of water for this sloppy shit. I don't know why Ariel left that out last time he was doing it on the nose, but that's fucking bullshit. A bottle of water for a sloppy shit? Yeah.

it's like I do the bottle of water with like English just boa-o-woh and then the scouser is the schroppy shit they're both terrible they're both fucking terrible

he just made YFG 94's dead yeah but he does have one question for sloppy shit it's so bad is that a bit of Scottish in there pizza or is it just

all garbage it's nearly Irish and something else it's can you see it what's the line a bottle of water for this sloppy

shit. A bottle of water for this sloppy shit? That's not bad. There's like a bit of like, I don't know what it is in it. There's like a bit of something that gives it that like Molly McCann, Patty, like that scouser.

Oh, that accent is the best accent. You've got it. I got to work on my Irish accent. Darren Till just going off on a rant is like one of my favorite things. We don't care. There is a last part to this question, which is thoughts on buying for Ariel

a pair of Oakley meta glasses so he could do some POV content He already has a pair, doesn't he? He does, yeah? He was talking before he went away. Yeah, we're not buying him. I think he got sent a pair. Ptzee, do you have to go eat some pancakes?

I'll have to go and eat some. All right, man, eat the pancakes, motherfucker. Bye, Peecee, we love you. Thanks for coming on, man. Thanks for coming on. Mo as Pici would say. Stevie B says, would either of you ever consider doing

an MMA fight camp for a documentary on the channel just to see how the average man would react to the hardships of camp. Your opponent can be 10 babies in honor of the new Frank sound drop. If my opponent's 10 babies, I'm in. I don't appreciate being called an average man. Certainly not. I am an average man. I would actually love to do it.

Get into sick shape, really push my limits, and then fight 10 babies. No, would you do it for real, though? And then get into an actual fight? Maybe just do the camp. Didn't AOLD depot go through like a camp in a wait cut? Yeah, I'd do it. Just the camp. The weight cut.

You don't have to fight. I think the fighting part is like a little bit. That feels like too much pressure. Now, if you wanted to, I think that's fine. But I think it'd be interesting to see a camp. If we could actually set that up, like what is it, eight weeks? Yeah, like Plinyo goes, hey, I'm going to prep you like we're going to fight Magamette on Kaliv. Yeah, that'd be sick.

I'd be down. I would be down to do it. I am not. We just have to set it up. I just want to get in sick shape and go through it. Steve asked you boys have really stepped up. Great work, loving the content. I never get read, but got to keep trying.

Today's your lucky day, Steve. Going back in time a little bit with this one, all the way back to International Fight Week when you boys were at the Venetian. I'd flown over for WSOP. Shout out. Rick knows what that is. Yes, I do.

I think everybody does. World Series, brother. I also took in the UFC Fan X was so awesome. Loved being around like-minded people. I'd come from New Zealand, so a bit of a journey. and it was by far my best time in Vegas despite being on my own. But I went to the Venetian

for the watch party with you guys. I was a bit confused about where to go, but I found it. Sign said private function, so I nervously asked the guy on the floor if this is the right place. They look at me like I've spoken Chinese and say no.

More people come and go, so I work up the courage to ask again. Different guy, same spot, same answer. Bugger, I thought. Then I see G.C. walk past me a few rows away from me where I'm sitting, walk right into the room where I'd ask my questions.

I sheepishly called out to G. but I guess not loud enough for a reaction. Left very confused, but you know what? Still loved it. Love the glimpse and still love the content. Keep up the great work. But damn, why lie to me at the door? I know, I know.

Who's the check? Great point. Thanks, Dana. Kiwi Steve. Wow, that was a great note there. I must not have heard you. I must not have heard you. He says you didn't hear him.

What door was it? I don't know. Because if it was the most recent trip, we would have been for the watch party we were in the fan caves and it wasn't open yeah and it wasn't open to the public for the poker room either

yeah but the watch the the September thing we did the pre-launch one we were out in public and people could have found it but then there wouldn't have been a door because we were kind of like in the open casino space I'm thinking that this was the the international fight week trip

okay Because he says fan X, too. Yeah, yeah, then it definitely was. I'm sorry I didn't hear you, Steve. I'm sorry. But whoever lied to him? It's fucked up. No good.

It is. No good. 1,000%. That's not on us. Shout out Steve, though. Glad you had a good time. Colin Avery says, G.C. Blind Rink these five Nicktunes. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. There are five of them. We're going to start off from the top. Fairly Odd Parents. Ooh, love Fairly Odd Parents, but I don't know what you're going to continue with this. I'll go three. All right. Then it goes to.

The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron. Oh, love Jimmy Neutron. You got the computer animated first one ever. I actually watched an episode recently. Shout out the Paramount Plus. But there were some great shows on Nickelodeon, so I'm going to go four. The Wild Tomberries. Wild Thornberries.

Thornberries. Yeah, I mean, you know, one of these. Meaning is not easy. Yeah, one of these. For all of those who are a little. Love the wild thornberries. Went and saw it in the theaters. Mm.

But I do have to go, I do have to go five. here. That number one is obvious, but I don't know what I'm going to put it to. Five for the Thornberrys. This may be before your time. Hey Arnold. No, not before my time. Absolutely love it. People think that it's set in New York. It's actually set where we're going. Seattle. Number two, solid. Shout to Helga. Love, Hey Arnold. Spongewell Square vats. Yeah, that's one. Auto 1, Auto 1. Grew up on it. Saw the movies every time they came out of in theaters on the day they came out. The only thing I could draw growing up was SpongeBob. Still funny as an adult. I was actually just watching an episode recently that is so good

where he's doing the fry cook and he's just like, one dozen cows grind on the farm. Order up! Yeah, it's great. Can I have some extra salt? We're all out. Can you check in the back? No. Yeah, SpongeBob is amazing. That's after y'all's time, yeah? Didn't see a single one of these that you're talking about. Oh. A single one, not even Hey Arnold? No. Whoever that is is a 90s kid and nailed it perfectly.

I actually think they're more of a 2000s kid. Sorry, 90s baby. Like, you came into watching cartoons in like 98 to like 2007. I'm a 90s kid and these were after my time. All time shows, though, fantastic, fantastic list. How about this one? El Peruano. Los Chicos atras?

The boys in the front? Los Chicoes de' atras. Yeah, what is that? The boys in the back? Yeah. Okay. He didn't say the duh. He just said,

Los Chicos atras. Yeah. Los is the. No, but in the back? Like Los L-O-S is the. I see what you're saying. That question about coming up to use your bathroom at Uncrowned H-Q had me laughing hard, like a madman and got me thinking about awkward experiences.

Okay, I love awkward. What is it talking about? Using the bathroom to come up? That guy sent. the message and was like, I work in the Yahoo building and I work on the third floor, but we don't have public restrooms. Can I come up and take a sloppy shit? I've been holding it in for four days.

That's what the genesis of the other one was as well. Oh, wow. Had anything particularly awkward happened lately, other than people throwing up, I guess. Recently, while riding my bike to work, I rode past a cat, and I said, psh, psh, to it,

right as a lady jager ran up. From her expression, she clearly thought I was signaling to her. I started to speak and then got really embarrassed. I rode away as fast as I could. Hopefully I never see her again. Thanks, boys. All cat calling no matter who it's two is not allowed.

Okay. Even to a literal cat? Even to a literal cat apparently. A, absolutely love awkward situations. I still think our best pound for pound was inspired by the main eventer this weekend. Anthony Fluff Hernandez of just pound for pound awkward situations because of the awkward situations we shared with him. Two, the throwing up wasn't awkward. I never got to the end of that

I just like run out I'm just like I gotta get the fuck out of here I can't listen to this person throw up or I'm gonna throw up myself Has anything awkward happened to me recently It's actually hilarious that you say that This morning And it's a very-

Do I even know this? No I didn't tell any of it Oh wow It wasn't that awkward But it just made me think of it Because it's the exact same scenario But with a dog Hit the breaking news Frank

This is an important Red Revolution All right All right. Walking out of my apartment this morning, and one of my neighbors is this very pretty woman. And as I'm walking out, her dog is sitting there without anyone around. And so, like, I walk out. Wait, so she's not there.

You recognize the dog because you know her dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, see her all the time coming and going. She, like, lives, like, just down the hall from it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's good, blah, blah, blah. I've seen the dog a million times. Walk out. The dog is right there. He's just, like, sitting there.

I'm just, like, dog voice. someone just like, oh, what's up, dude? Like, how's it going? As I'm saying this, like, I'm looking up and start walking. She turns the corner and she's like, oh, like, hey, I don't know. Like, and then I'm just like, yeah, hey, how's it going? And just go on about my day. But as I was leaving the apartment, I was like,

is there a chance that she thought I was saying, like, hey, dude to her? Because, like, she felt like the way she said, like, oh, hey, how's it going? Like, it sounded like a response to me saying, hey, dude, to the dog. And I think she thought I was saying, it to her. That's on her though.

It was still like a little bit. I don't think so. She was like, how dare you talk to me like that? And then you're like, no, no. And then she's like, no, I've heard enough. That would be really awkward. That would be weird. I would be like, okay. Have a good rest of your day, I guess. And then she falls up to my dog. Don't talk to my dog. I think she was just frazzled.

Thought I was talking to the dog. And we were talking to the dog, but I think she was just frazzled. Because she, I'm putting in the mindset of like, she probably left the dog there to go do something real quick. She's running back and then you're talking to the dog and she's just like a little bit scrambled. Okay.

I don't think you're in hot water with her. I don't think it's hot water. I don't think you're going to move out. Did that guy call me dude earlier? I don't think you are viewed as weird for saying what you think she said. Are you saying? They're still a chance. Yes, definitely.

I mean, you can bring it up next time you see her. So remember that moment where and that'd be a great way to kick it off for sure. Just go into that conversation about that. She watches a show and hears you break this down. You think I'm that big of an idiot. No, he didn't name the dog. He's smart. All right.

Or the person. Or the person. It would have been anyone. All right. Max, shout out BITB. The vibes are immaculate day after day. Question about our beloved heavyweight division. Is the last time the division was remotely fun

when Pavlovich and Tom were on a collision course. I never believed John Tom was happening, so I don't count whatever that was. While it was cobbled together last minute, there was at least intrigued between two guys into the age of 35 with first round stoppages for days is our only hope going forward of Walter Walker heel hook streak for the ages. Thanks guys. Shout out Ladinian Tomlinson, Max. Shout to Ladanian Tomlinson all time ago. It's a great point. When's the last time we were

really actually like, oh my God, heavyweight actually has some life? Maybe John Jones coming back. John Jones, Zero gone was my answer. Yeah. UFC 285. That was huge. I like, I like Pavlovich and Aspinall as a fight, but it wasn't to me like, this is heavyweight, oh my God. Like John Jones coming to the division was the last time I was like, oh fuck. Because it also did coincide with Sergey being on that incredible streak. Tom was coming up. Cyril Gone like still had a chance to be something in the division.

Obviously still does, you know. Could end up being an undisputed champion. But yeah, that 2023, I would say. Yeah, that sucks. The 2024 was Tom fought once. John fought Steppe And those were like really the two biggest fights And then 2025 was

A desert of Of entertainment at that heavy weight Yeah that's that that is a bad feeling That the last time we cared was That long ago about that division Buneak says Hey boys in the back late 2024 Dana-T's a mind-blowing fight for 2025

That he claims fans will never fucking see coming Describing it as something That will drive you fuckers crazy. Safe to say that fight never occurred. Can I get G.C., Rick, and Pizzi to give your number one speculative guess is what that fight was and why it never happened. Did someone ask this? It's been asked in variations. I don't fucking know because nothing at that time made any sense.

So it has to be something we couldn't have expected. And I can't, like, my brain works too analytically to think of, like, something that doesn't exist. I'm much better at, like, conceptualizing things that I can, like, put together with context clues and, like, logically analyze, the idea of just like, Dana White was thinking about two fighters who are not even in the UFC fighting, my brain doesn't work that way. I have no fucking idea. That's what I, that's what I imagine. It was just something it was just something nothing. Yeah, and then it just never came to fruition.

Hey lads, three quick ones. Okay. Any good MMA books are good recommendations in general. I don't have an MMA book per se, but the, the Tom Trebacy boxing book. Yeah, fantastic. I ended up reading through that. It is great. ranking the top 100 boxers Literature in general is, you know,

better than MMA as a whole just because of the longevity and the number of like incredible writers that have come through. The Four Kings? I mean, you know,

legendary iconic book. In MMA, it tends to be more the biographies or the autobiographies, right? Like Ben Ascran just recently came out

with a great one. Rhonda Rousey's fighting. She had one that, that I think was a bestseller as PT highlighted when he was talking about like the magnitude of the fight. Those tend to be where the writing in the MMA space tends to be.

But outside of books, you know, oncrown.com's got some fantastic. Always. I read Hicks and Gracie's book. Oh, yeah. Breathe. It was really good. I mean, if like 80% of the stuff he put in there is true, he has lived one of the most insane lives. Like, the Valley Tudor days, like everything that goes on.

But Gracie's, they're very good marketers. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's truth in there. Yeah. they also know how to tell a story. There's some things that you read and you're like, come on.

There's just like, no way. Either way, it was a really entertaining book. He's lived an incredible life. And it was some really cool insights into his life and sort of the, the Gracie clan and how they came to be. That's really like the only MMA book that I've seen.

I was still waiting on Sweet 16. But, you know, one day. I imagine like really good MMA books will be in like the next few decades. Yeah, that's the thing. That's why boxing, is so much history. There is so much time that has happened. The people chronicling it now

have only possibly, the longest you could have been a fan is, what is it? When did, 1993? Yeah, 93 is the start of the UFC. There was MMA before that, but it wasn't extremely popular. So we're talking only a 30-ish year history. There's going to need to be some time. But like, I mean, we've got incredible writers, right? Chuck Mendenhall puts out an incredible piece every single time he picks up a pen. Ben Folks is a great writer. Shaheen Al Shadi, who's now the editor-in-chief, there was a time where his fingers worked, as Bill Simmons likes to say, that he was an incredible scribe. So I think there will be that day. It is just further down the line, as you said. Once, like, the most significant and important careers

are still going on. When those end, like, we're talking about a Ronda Rousey comeback, a Connor McGregor, when you write the book on those people, when that's all over, that's what it's going to really like start kicking up. For GC, when you come to Ireland, are you going to vlog it or some of it? I don't know. Enjoy a vacation. Yeah, TBD. Just trying to enjoy a vacation. I'm sure there will be pictures and videos of me and Pizzi doing gallivanting through the Emerald Isle. That's not for public consumption. Yeah, they're going from it. Exrated. Yeah, we're going to see. We're going to see. How about this one? I got one. Inappropriately appropriate. Okay. Boys.

What are we doing? Where is the creativity? Ariel is away. Y'all could have done some walkout trips in NY, some PS5, fight feasts at Jordan's house, fight feast one V1, Jordan versus Burks, maybe some beating Franco in any type of cardio event. That's not nice. Or even Pete C, he wrote it Pete C, actually trying out the Killian's Irish Red. But y'all ended up doing nothing.

This is all on the executive producer. Frederick Jake Man, isn't it? Miss you, Ariel, I.A. And then Girth Brooks. That's his fucking great. He says, executive prime minister, his holiness, Eric Jackman. There's a kernel of truth in there that I don't want to admit. Sure.

There's a kernel of truth in there that we could have been, the world was our oyster. Yeah. This is Pandora's box. We could have opened this thing up and just been like, we ain't even doing this type of show. We're going to do X, Y, Z thing. Sure. There's also an argument that we could do those things any week. on the boys in the back with no pushback,

and we still can do those things. And also, you know, just like a, you know, a little bit of, you know, pressure on the shoulders, you know, got to keep the boat afloat. It's a great point. I feel like we've been putting out good content. Hope you've enjoyed it. Frederick Jakeman, my new tag.

By the way, I think Jordan was in the bathroom when the cookoff between you guys was proposed. Did we ever get Jordan's acceptance of the cookoff? I thought I was talking shit. I'm so in, man. I didn't think you were talking shit. Frank told me you were talking shit, and I guess I learned my lesson. No, he was very, he was very respectful. It was more of like a

this would be a fun challenge, not a you know, F. Jordan. Why does it have to be a challenge? Why don't we work together, plan out a whole meal? No, that's not a fun. No, we got to do like Iron Chef. Yeah, I'm down. I'm down for this. Now, Andy, are you are you in the cook

part or are you the judge? Andy? Yeah. Andy? Yeah. Andy. Oh, sorry, I missed that. No, Andy. I'd like to judge. Okay, Andy's judging. Me, you and Frank are judges.

If we're doing baking, I'm in. Okay. If we're doing cooking, I'm judging. I like this. Andy, Frank, and Rick, Judge. Frederick. They're the, yeah, Frederick Drakeman. They're the three judges for it.

And, yeah, maybe on a weekend, like, without UFC coming up, we do it on the back end of the program. Actually, my neighbors, the day after Thanksgiving, they all do, like, a cookoff so they have blind judges. They're not actually blind, just for reference. Like this year they did top burgers, so they all had to cook a different type of burger, and then

winner gets to choose the next year's competition. You're seeing it's a blind test as in like they give them the three burgers, they taste them whichever is best wins. Exactly, yeah. Love it. Yeah, well we can do something like this. What's your guys show that you love? What's like the best like cooking show that you guys love?

Bake-off? Is that the one? They like British Bakeoff. I like the bake-off shop is good. I want to mock it up. I want to do like that version. I want to do like the like take on that. I think that's what we do. Like a versus moment.

Yeah. Yeah, I think it'd be great. I cook some sick ribs this past weekend. Best thing I've made so far. Maybe in like our summer break that we take, we go out to Frederick Jakeman's house and we do a whole production food-wise. I feel like the kitchen that you guys were in was nicer than my kitchen, but you're welcome.

You're definitely welcome to. The kitchen we were in was a, was someone's mother's kitchen. Yeah, you can come to my kitchen, no doubt. It's a nice kitchen. It's a fine kitchen. That one was a nicer kitchen. Gertruthbrooks also says, hey, boys in the back.

If Rick was Sean Shelby and Connor was Mick Maynard, what changes in the UFC would you make? Frankie, would you also take your wife to see no doubt at the sphere if money was not an option? You answer first. She wanted to go, sure, but I don't think she would. Go see what?

No doubt. Don't speak Dan, dun, dun, what would we change? No more uniforms. You can do whatever you want. Okay, but if I'm Mick Manor and Sean Shelby,

I can't do shit. I have no power. What am I doing? Hey guys, I'm Mick Manard. No more uniforms. Fuck you, man. Get the fuck out of it. It's not how we make money.

Yeah, I would... Okay, actually, truly put yourself in the mindset of Mick Manor and Sean Shelby, what would you do differently? I have an answer for this. What would you do that? Okay, I want to hear your answer.

answer. I'd be scouting more aggressively. I'd change the heavyweight division being in the abysmal state that it is in is to me on who's scouting talent. And that's unacceptable. Like, surely there are better heavyweights out there and you need to be finding them. You can't wait for a blue chip prospect like Gable Steven to come along and be like, thank God he's finally here. W.W.E. goes out and is like, oh, this guy's a former college football player. This guy's a, this guy's a this, there's got this guys of this and they bring them into developmental program and X, Y, Z, you need to do that. And maybe that, by the way, maybe this is totally unfair to put on McManard and Sean Shelby and they would need a team to be able to do this and they need more

resources and things like that. That's fine. That would be what I would ask. I would ask the USC for more resources to do that. You need to be better. Scouting talent. Scout? And then when they actually are starting to show up in the UFC, promote heavier. But that's not their gig. I understand that, but like, you're talking about getting resources for scouting. If you know how good this dude is, you know why you signed it. You know you

push for that. You know you should become the next big thing. You push for it. Yeah, that's fair. You get pieces made. You do face to faces. That's what I would do inside the UFC. Lose the uniforms, let the fighters have this sense of personality and start promoting them. Do face to faces. Do actual promo, highlight

reels, getting these guys, you know, building them up, build storylines, sell the fights, really make an effort to try to get people to tune in that wouldn't normally tune in, not just like the UFC's on, so I'm watching. You have that fan base that's always going to be there, you want to grow that. Build an aura, build them a streak around these fighters. You have several fighters on the roster that are undefeated champions. They should be mythical fighters. You should build them up as these guys that can never be beat. And then when they do get beat, now you're building the guy that beat them. Yeah, I would just put more effort in. to it. Stop with the IG live, stop with the basic ass announcements on on social media and really try to build these guys up. You have so many resources at your disposal. You have teams, build cool posters, like make it cool again. That's what I would do. How do we feel? Do we feel like we answered enough? Here's one for you. Rick, have you ever seen any of these movies? If so, hit me with your quick opinion on them. Okay. Under the Silver Lake. I don't think so. I have to see posters that will help jog my memory. I've not seen this. No.

I saw the devil. I've seen I saw the devil. Loved. Keeper? That sounds familiar. Is that a horror movie? Yes. Seen, enjoyed.

And then him. Saw appreciated what they were going for. Didn't like love the movie. But I thought it got a bad rap. People used that as like a, you know, an inflection point to like get off their own takes about how they feel about the themes within it, I appreciated it more as like it was kind of a cool attempt at something

and enjoyed it from that perspective. Okay, I actually have one more for you as well. This is from Luke Hercules. He says, Rick, I know you're chronically online. Are you across the beginning of World War Mog? What are your thoughts on clavicular getting framed mugged by ASU frat leader? Also, do you think Chad and Androgenic has a chance to take the throne? No, because didn't he pull out?

He's not willing to fight or mug against ASU frat leader. I'm aware of all the things going on. We fully reached the point that this has jumped the shark because of old people who are not cool at all talking about. Like once the brands start doing it, once the people that you look at and are like, oh yeah, that guy's like an uncle. He's not cool at all. He's a fucking unc. Are doing this, it is Jump the Shark and it is no longer. cool so we've reached that point with this 100%.

You're not looks maxing? You're chud maxing. For sure, yeah. All the brand accounts like trying to do this are just pitiful. It's so sad. It's so bad. Yeah. I know very little about this.

I see all the tweets and then it's like reading a foreign language. That's the, that's the gimmick. Yeah, I'm old and okay with it. I'm old and okay with it. But what the key is you, it's, Sounds like a foreign language to you, but you actually kind of know enough of what's going on. The fact that you do is the proof that it's not cool. When people first read it and 90% of the people had no fucking idea what was going on,

that was when it actually had like popularity and was kind of cool. Now it has become uncool. Jump the shark. Yeah. As they say. Irish lad, hey guys, do you not think it's a bit unfair all this Gable Steveson fighting on the White House card talk? There's maybe 12 or 14 spots on the card and he's going to get one? sure he's credentialed and everything,

but those spots should go to guys that have put in work in the UFC. Additionally, I could see him getting some of that bone-nickel hate for getting privileged treatment. Also, if I could ask, would a 43-year-old Kane Velasca be a top-five, top-10 heavyweight in the current UFC? Maybe he needs money and comes back. He might be able to be a top-10 heavyweight.

I think he could actually be a top-10 heavyweight. 43 at heavyweight? Like, Andrea Olavski is still fighting in like 48. Like, you see guys like Glover to share at light heavyweight getting titles at 40. Andre Arlowski could be a top 10 heavy. Yeah. Didn't he lose like four straight?

Yeah, so? Yeah, I guess, yeah. So what? Four straight. I don't know. I mean, like the White House thing, he is an Olympic gold medalist and he has star power. Like the idea that like it should go to people who have put and work in the UFC, it's nice exposure, but I don't think they're going to be getting paid any extra for this. I don't think it's going to be like this life-changing thing that the fighters are asking for it that, that it's, that it's, that it's, that it's, you know, that it.

they're making it seem like it's going to be. I think it's going to come and go, and that's going to be it. The UFC's goal is not to reward its fighters. That is not like how the UFC makes money. That's not their business model. Their business model isn't, you've been in great service to us,

so here's your reward. Now, if you're asking me whether I think it should shift toward that, that's a different question altogether. But that is not currently their business model. So the idea that they'd go, hey, we have this guy currently under roster, he's a top 15 guy, let's give him the spot instead,

versus, hey, if we put somebody like Gable Stevens in with all the attention and all the accolades in this spot, he gets a huge win here and now we can capitalize on him further in a way that we couldn't with that top 15 guy, the business side of it makes it very clear which direction you go. And so I just don't think, I don't think that's a reality we live in where it's like you've earned the opportunity for this. It is about what's going to make the most money for us. How do we do the best business?

and the investment in Gable Stephson to say, huge opportunity, this is how we showcase him to the world. And then he goes out and performs, that's how you capitalize on it. So you're right in that it's not merit, it's not a meritocracy and it hasn't been, but you're ignoring the evidence that would say, there's no chance that would ever happen

and no reason to even think it would. I'm with you. Gable is unique. Let's get in two more here. Just to get to 30. Yeah, clean 30. So Various says, what's up, BITV? Do you think the UFC would ever start cutting boring strikers like they are beginning to cut boring grapplers?

No. You'd have to really be. It's a different, it depends on what you consider a boring striker because by what we assume of MMA tastes, people like striking, even if it's not powerful striking, right? Like, people tend to favor the stand-up because you understand it better and it has more of an appeal and there's damage being done and there's punches being landed. Whereas in grappling, when they're just grappling, there's actually not like damage happening or there's not a submission attempt that it's kind of just this like fluid exchange. Fluid exchange was a bad way to phrase that. And I just think striking is held to a different standard. Should it be?

No, I appreciate good grappling. Like I think Mobsar, Evoev and Al Jemine Sterling was like one of the best fights of last year. It was a hell of a fight. And it was all grappling. But I don't blame people for their, for their preclude, their proclivity to liking striking. The part that baffles me a little bit sometimes, though, is why don't you just like kickboxing? Right. Why don't you watch Moyni-Tai or kickboxing if the only thing you like is the striking?

If you're somebody who's like, I prefer striking to grappling, but I'm okay with the grappling, understandable. That I'm kind of like on board with. But when you're like the moment it hits the ground, boom, fuck you, like go watch something else. I don't understand why you're even doing this. Yeah, I mean, there are at least moitai and Cape Bucca. Which is incredible to watch. Yeah, it's really fun.

All right, last one, Aaron Moran from Ireland, uh, moopy moops on the Discord front crown. Frankie, I'm sure you know about that. Hey, lads, first time asking a question. I'm currently in the hospital after flat foot reconstruction. Man, sounds tough. Hope that gets better. My question is, do you think the PFL should allow some of their fighters to fight on this Ronda Rousey

Gina Carrano card to bring eyes to their product with the contracts that might be difficult and I just don't know if there's a great translation from

oh that guy fought on PFL I want to see him watch again I guess maybe if they put on like an unbelievable performance but I don't know and then lastly

also if you lost a limb would you rather lose an arm or a leg and how would you do without one rather lose an arm wow I'd go arm explain

Let's let's Just because I want to be able to walk and run With two feet I guess you can get a prosthetic Yeah I guess you could get a prosthetic yeah I would rather have my feeling sensation in my hands Yeah And have the prosthetic leg then lose

The hand feel Yeah one leg would I mean one arm would get old typing texting No because you can get the prosthetic arm too But I feel like the functionality is better It's not as good It's not as good with the legs they've gone so far They've come so far Yeah

Yeah Actually, you may have changed my mind. I think I might go like. Yep. Hopefully it's not a decision I have to make. No. Man, hope you got to you. Yeah, feel better.

Surgery. Quick and speed of recovery. That was on the nose. Just a couple more news and notes to get into before we get out of here. Connor McGregor. Saul Nate Diaz talking about him with TMZ, and he posted an Instagram story responding. He says Diaz McGregor 3. Oh, boy.

I'm in. That's the fight I want for Connor. As I said earlier in the show, Dana White, as soon as that announcement came out. Hello, hello, Connor McGregor, yes. Nate Diaz? Oh, Nate Diaz and Connor McGregor, boy, that would be a real response to somebody else

coming into the MMA game trying to do a fight on Netflix. Because I'll tell you what, Nate Diaz and Connor McGregor is one of the biggest fights they can make independent of anything else. The fact that it's on the White House, I don't even care where Nate Diaz and Connor McGregor happened. So, yeah, all in.

All in. Connor McGregor 3 on the White House. That's, put it on CBS, that's compete. Yeah, that's competing. That's numbers. That's an order. That's likely, in my opinion, beating it. Hamza Shamiev's coach was in an interview,

and he talked about the potential of Hamza going up to 205 to challenge for the title. Here's what he had to say. Hamza versus Pereira, it would be the fight that would sell the most, and Hamza would be fighting for another belt. For Hamza, it's plus, plus, plus, plus. It's great, you know? and he's moving up to another division, you know, people can question.

He can take out probably part of the pressure on his shoulder, you know, but he's not the kind of guys that are going to come up with excuse him in case things don't go his way, but probably he would be fighting even more relaxed if he would move up. this is me having the vision by Hamza's side if I would be him. So if I would be Pereira, I would never accept that fight. All right. That was Alan Nassimento, Hamzat's coach. He goes on to say, we cut the clip there.

He goes on to say the reason he wouldn't accept it is because it's a risk, right? If I'm Alex Perrier and I have the belt, I'm not incentivized to do that. I'd rather go up to heavyweight. So it's not like he was saying. Alex was scared. Like, he's not saying that. It sounded like he actually has a lot of respect for... He's really talking about from the actual benefits of taking the fight.

Hamzad is getting a massive fight. It's all upside. A couple weight class, going for a second belt against a superstar and Alex Brera. Alex Brerer is sort of just sitting on his belt when he could go up to heavyweight and contend for a triple belt. Hamzaa versus Alex Brerer, if he doesn't go up to heavyweight would be massive. It makes a lot of sense, you know? Like, it's like, there's not a list of guys at middleweight that, like, Like, we missed the Izzy era, right?

Like, Hamzaa Chamaev came out at a time where Jekis 2 plus he took the belt from Izzy. Izzy would have been the one guy that it feels like, okay, there's a legacy defining thing happening here. And so there's not a queue of middleweights that I'm like, man, I can't wait to see Hamzaa fight this guy. Sean Strickland, I'd really like to see him fight because I'm interested in the theatrics around it.

I'm interested in what the press conference is going to be and all those things. But stylistically, it's not that fight for me. Fluffy, maybe a little bit. But it's not like, I have to see this. So the idea of Hamzaa Shamaa potentially going up to light heavyweight and fighting Alex Pereira, I can't say I'm not interested. I can't say that that's not a fight. I wouldn't want to see.

I'd like to see that that would be one of the most pure striker versus wrestler matchups that you'll ever see. Yeah, 100%. I mean, obviously, two of the biggest stars in the sport today, be Hamzat going for a second belt. I would like to see Hamzot defend his belt and Pereira go up to heavyweight. I'd rather see Pereira at heavyweight than I'd rather see Hamza fight. For sure, for sure, I'm 100% with you there.

But in terms of Hamzaa being able to hang at 205, he got some training in with a natural 205 and a little roundtree, getting some grappling work in. I don't think the, with how big Hamzat is, I don't think the size would be a massive issue. I mean, he's standing here with a light heavyweight. Yeah, Alex Pereira fought.

Yeah, and obviously this is just training, but with how big he is and his ability to put on weight and muscle, I think he could hang at 205 as well. This guy was a 70 guy. It's crazy. Hound nuts. Struggled a couple of times to get down there. For sure.

The last one was really brutal, but. It's very Rumble Johnson-esque. That guy was a little before your time, but he was a massive man who ends up fighting at light, heavyweight, and even being big in that division, fought at heavyweight. And he was cutting, he was killing himself to get down to 170.

It's crazy to me that Hamza was ever at 170. Speaking of great wrestlers and grapplers, Gable Stevenson was interviewed by submission radio and talked about Islam Makashchev, potentially how good he would be if he solely focused on wrestling. Take a listen. Your friend Gordon Ryan made some comments about Khabib and who else. And he said the wrestling basically is different levels. If they were competing in wrestling, it's not the same.

So I want to know just about Islam. How do you rate his wrestling? And like if let's say he went and wrestled against some of the best in the world, world in wrestling competition. Do you think that that would stand up, you know, because obviously this is MMA, two different sports. Yes. I'll be giving him time to train. He's in Dagestan, brother. He's training all the time. He's training all day. If Islam solely focused on wrestling, he would be a very good 74 kilogram wrestler. I think top five in the world. Top five in the world. Would you doubt it? With how dedicated those guys are to the craft, like you have to believe it.

and coming from somebody who is top of the food chain in the wrestling world. It's very believable. Also, shout out, obviously, to Dennis and submission radio. Follow submission radio if you can. Love Dennis. Hansen shirt. He's rocking the Hansen shirt. Shout out back-to-back days with some throwbacks.

Little Roberto. What was yesterday? It was really good. What was it? Jeff Gordon yesterday. Oh, yeah. Jeff Gordon one. Look at that.

Shout out, Dennis. Shout out Dennis. Dennis, absolute legend. It's a mission radio. Great production. Yeah, I mean, I believe it. If he dedicated his training just to wrestling coming from an Olympic old medalist, who might argue? Who might argue?

It almost feels like with striking sports, the best technicians are probably in boxing. But in grappling sports, we might have the actual best ones. MMA might have actually benefited because amateur wrestling, although shout out to Raff, who's kind of changing that, Amateur wrestling didn't have a huge pipeline for making money after your collegiate career is done. You can do Olympics. That's kind of it, right? It's like you're in college. You're an all-American.

You go to the Olympics. Hopefully you do well there. You can get some endorsements. But the biggest boon for MMA, for grapplers, has been MMA because a guy like a Daniel Kormier could come and make money even late into his career. A guy like Gable Stephson, all the promise in the world could come. and be an MMA fighter, we're kind of getting the best of that. And how long you can go as well?

Like, D.C. says he's still willing to wrestle. Like he was like, yeah, I'll wrestle John Jones if we'll get in there. Obviously, Johnny is known with some more thrice. But yeah, the age, it is great. Hopefully they continue to have success. We got an announcement, a couple of fight announcements, for game-bred bear knuckle and some familiar names in a 16-man bear-nuckle tournament,

announced match-up so far for the heavyweight tournament, opening round, I believe, is going to be April 10th. Anthony Smith, Lionheart Smith, who retired recently, is back to fight bare knuckle against Chase Sherman, who also fought in the UFC, Juto Enosente versus Mo Usman, Alexander Romanov versus Nikolai, Kovalenko, and Bruno Capulosa versus Todd Duffy. Several names that fought in the UFC, PFL. I think, so I don't know, did Bruno Capulosa fight in the UFC? he fought PFL for sure

but did he fight in the UFC first I don't remember remember he was like a he was like a world beater for a second there PFL yeah NFL yeah no he did not fight in UFC but he

he and the other and the Russian sounding name are the only two that I don't that I don't believe that fought in the UFC Guuto fought in the UFC he was a former glory guy he got a chance in the UFC

it's it's a deep like look let's let's call it whatever it is. Heavyweight is not a great, like even in the UFC heavyweight is not a great division. For what is out there still remaining in the combat sports landscape, they put together a nice little tournament. So kudos to Jorge Mosvidal. He did all right for for what's left out there at heavyweight. Yeah, not bad at all. And like several of those names have never competed in bare knuckle. Especially like to get a guy like Anthony Smith. Like he's, he's, he's, he's on there, Todd Duffy as well.

Todd Duffy's still out there doing it. Sure. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. We'll see how these guys And we've got BKFC coming out with the $25 million tournament. Remember, though, now this is just clicking with me. Anthony Smith has always, was it Bear Knuckle or was it Power Slap that he was such a diehard fan of? He likes all of them. Yeah, it was power slap that he loved, though. I was thinking that he was going to diehard to Bear Knuckle. Trust me, he loves Bear Knuckle too.

Believe me. He was going to get his chance at the Gamebred 16-man tournament. So, yeah, it sounds like they're playing that well. It's on a Friday to not go against UFC 327 that's happening in Miami that weekend. I would imagine, I don't know if I saw where this is taking place, but I would imagine it's going to be in South Florida. So interesting stuff there. Dana White at his most recent press conference after Z-O-3,

was asked about Terrence Crawford versus Joaquin. And he started who? Is there it's Crawford versus who? Walking Buckley did not take too kindly to that. Here's what he had to say. Terrence Crawford and Buckley. I know these questions about boxing and MMA guys. Terrence Crawford and who?

Damn Dana. You didn't forgot who I was, huh? Right? You didn't forgot the dude that got, you know, knockout of the year, 2020, right? One of the most viral knockouts known for the UFC. Oh, yeah, you forgot one of the guys that you said, hey, man, this is the dude to watch out for in 2021, right, with Hamzai and Kevin Holland. Oh, yeah, yeah, you forgot that this is one of the guys that went on that 2024. Crazy Street, right, in a new weight class at What's Way, knocking out three ranked opponents.

Oh, yeah, you forgot that this was one of your most viral fighters that always get his name clipped and mentioned in everything that you do. Look, Daniel, it ain't nothing personal, bro. I think what you're doing for Zupa boxing is incredible and especially giving boxes the opportunity to go out there and really build a name for themselves. But if you don't think that MMA fighters have an ability or have a ability or have a place for Zufa boxing, I really believe that you were mistaken. And giving us an opportunity man to go out there and really put it on, you know, some of these boxes and really show them,

you know what it takes to really kind of go out there and put on a performance of a lifetime, right? You know, utilize us as a tool. Joaquin Buckley, staying on it on social over the last couple of weeks. I will say in defense of Dana White, I do think that it was just him thinking boxing, them saying Terrence Crawford and Buckley and he was like, wait, who was that? I don't think someone presented. Well, then later he goes, UFC Buckley? Like, he does, like, connect the dots at some point.

I don't think it was like someone was like, Joaquin Buckley, your fighter on your roster, and he was like, I don't know who that is. It's a great point. This is a great point. He goes, USC Buckley, then they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he kind of goes like, are you dumb?

I'm not going to box it. How do you feel about Joaquin Buckley in general? He's fine. I think he talks a lot, but I would rather that than the inverse of someone who just doesn't post anything at all and they're just completely uninteresting. Like, Joaquin Buckley is a character in the sport.

Like he draws attention, he draws eyeballs. And like most of the time, save for like his last fight against Usman, he's in fairly exciting fights as well. I'm there too, but I feel like there was a real wave of like people being like, cringe, cringe, cringe. and I get like he's responding to everything

but like to your point that close mouth doesn't get fed and I kind of appreciate like what he's trying to do here in terms of just like stay in the news react to things just throw out opinions he's not scared of like somebody's going to say something Dana White says something about him he uses that content I kind of appreciate what he's trying to do

okay you say you say cringe cringe cringe cringe cringe but in the lead up to that Usman fight he he there was a fan base behind him for sure Good. Like he was, the tides were turning and people were definitely supporting him and he was moving up at 170 in the rankings and he was on a really nice win streak there. I don't think people thought he was cringe. I think he had a nice time. Okay, because there was that time.

When he called out Connor McGregor, in that moment, everybody was like, this guy, he sucks. It's cringe. He's stupid. And I just feel like the alternatives, as you said, are a really boring guy who's like, you're a great fighter, but you don't know how to like do any kind of promotion. you're not interested in being involved in anything. And he's a great fighter who's also kind of like, hey, let me talk. Like, he talks about let me get there in there in Zufa boxing.

I think he's serious. Like I would actually watch if you were Dana White, sending Joaquin Buckley to Zuba boxing would be a way to get MMA fans who are, or UFC fans who are watching your product to now potentially tune into Zufa boxing. Even if it's to watch Joaquin Buckley lose, right? Even if they're like, he can't do it. He can't box.

There would be a portion of people who'd watch. Watch that. I like the way his mind works when it comes to, like, this marketing and putting himself in there. I actually think that would be the card to get MMA fans sparked into Zufa boxing. You put Joachian-Buckley on that Jaya fight card. I know that's happening in two weeks, so it's not going to happen. You put the best of the best in Zufa boxing with a decent size name in MMA. People would be interested in people.

It'd be fun. I wouldn't mind it. Well, I mean, we're waiting for him for a fight. He caught up the entire division. Yeah. Maybe he's like, I can't get a fight. Put me on that Zuba boxing. Let's go. We talked about the muck earlier. We will be in Seattle for UFC Seattle. Not only are we going to get Israel out of Sonia versus Joe Pfeiffer, but it looks like we will see Michael Kiyasa make his final walk for the UFC. He talked about the potential of retirement after his fight in Seattle. Fuck it, I guess I'll just be the, I guess you guys will be the first. I'll say it to you like, yeah, this is my last fight. I think I've been kind of on the fence about it. It's a hard, it's a hard, it's, It's hard. It's hard. And Kenny, you know, I mean, you didn't even really get to retire on your terms. You know, your body, I know you were having some issues and stuff. And yeah. And it's a hard decision to make because it's what I've done. I have my first fight when I was 20 years old in 2008, you know, and all good things come to an end. And, you know, I wanted to fight out this contract. I'm when I just signed a new deal before the court McGee fight. And that was my plan. I'm going to fight out this deal and I'm done. It's not like I want.

I don't want to go into free agency. I love where I'm at. I love the UFC. I have no reason I want to go fight anywhere else. I want to fight the best guys in the world. The best guys in the world are right here. And I've been competing with them for 14 years. Salute to a legend.

Hanging them up. Maybe not legend. I don't want to like, I don't want to throw out status. You gave him the legend and then took it back. That's fun. I don't want to just throw that term around loosely. And then somebody is like, is he a legend? A great UFC veteran.

A fantastic fighter. an OG of the game. OG, I think, is the appropriate label, right? Michael Keesa is somebody who cut his teeth in the UFC, was on that live season of the ultimate fighter, has done a tremendous amount of things in the sport of MMA, is now a fantastic analyst, right? Like, he's kind of slid into that role extremely nicely.

Glad to see him just go out on his terms, and he talked about it in that video, right? Like, he was talking about Kenny Florian, and, like, you know, you don't get to necessarily dictate that all the time in this sport. Injuries and other things kind of preclude you from having the retirement you want. He's going to be in Seattle, get to say, this is my last one, put the gloves down in front of a raucous crowd and walk out. I love that for him. Shout out to an OG.

I think that's the biggest point is it feels like he's accepted that it's his time to retire. You know, he's trying to set up things with broadcasting afterward and everything like that, setting up a life for himself. Getting to do it in Seattle, I think, is the biggest part for him, and it just feels like a poetic retirement. 100%. I look forward to being in the crowd for it. Hopefully he comes off on a. on a win. It's going to be great after spending a few days at the muck. All right, I think that about covers it. On the nose. Boy, we did a lot. News and notes. Gina Carrano and Rhonda Rousey on Netflix in May 16th at the Intuit Dome. Yeah, May 16th at the Intuit Dome.

It's going to be wild. We'll see how it builds in the lead up to that fight. But for now, that is it for us tomorrow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Super Chats. What we got? What do we got? They're extra super. Cosmo Kramer 28 says Ronda Rousey, comeback fighter of the year. Let's just say you know the phrase

I'm never wrong just early? That's all I'm going to say for now. This is like beating up babies. It's like beating up babies for me. That's how I operate. It's like beating up babies. I've never been wrong. I've never been wrong.

I've never been wrong. That's why I love to work with you. I've just been early. This guy's constantly correct with takes of gold. Shout out to Martin Boots. I don't even have to say it. They're saying it for me.

Shout to Bucci at you. Did you say shout out to Martin Badi? Shout to him too. Yeah, shout to Boudai too. You know. Boys in the bag. Pizzi with the crack. Is there any way you could put your pound for pound list up on the website or something?

I was only able to remember King of Kong. It was great. Cheers, lads. Shout out Frank. I will not be commissioning anybody to assemble a boys in the back, pound for pound but if anybody wants to go back into the archives and do it themselves kudos to you congratulations and let lawrence know i will not be please feel free no chance no chance uh you kind of get them when he got them yeah uh and you can go back and watch them that's about it

but thank you for for watching lawrence and and enjoying pound for pound king of pound pete and the boys quick one where would you guys rank will fucking flurry at heavyweight in the ufc and would he take abel think about it will fucking flurry i mean he beat a uh a uh a ufx UFC heavyweight, so like he'd have to be, a ranked UFC heavyweight, so like he'd have to be ranked, no? Yeah, I mean, he's coming off, boy. The last time he lost was 20-20.

Sure. He'd have to be. He has a no contest against Christoph Jocko. I don't know if he had lost that fight because it says they got overturned to a no contest. I don't know the situation there. I'm forgetting it off the top of my head. But, yeah, I mean,

a win over Martin Boudai tells me He won by decision. Yeah. So a win over Martin Boudai tells me where you are in your career. I would, as I said, I want to see Gable versus top, top level competition. I know you and Pizzi were a little more okay with like the slower approach. I think he could fit right into the division. Sure, he could be an opponent for Gable, but I think they have enough names and bodies on the roster that they can throw somebody at them.

Yeah, put them top ten. I'm down. Oh, so you're back with me now. Will Flurry. Oh, put him top. 10. Not Gable, though. No. Flurry went 7 and 1 in the UFC. Yeah. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's Martin Boudai. That's Martin Boudetai. I was like,

when was Will Flurry even in the UFC? He was in Bellator, though. Yeah, and PFL. Sorry, I was looking at Martin Boudai's tabology. And he's out. Anything else, Frankie? That was it. Okay. All right, I think that just about does it. Tomorrow, tune in. Uncrowned films. Uncrown films. DC? DC and Thailand. Hanging out in Thailand. Our boy, E. Casey Liden, went and spent a couple weeks out in Thailand, ran into D.C., and it's going to be a great behind-the-scenes documentary about that.

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