The Ariel Helwani Show - Scariest MMA fighters ever, Jon Jones trolls Tom Aspinall, Uncrowned Films BTS with E. Casey Leydon | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

On this spooky edition of The Boys in the Back, the Boys reveal their costumes, before discussing Jon Jones' latest barb aimed at Tom Aspinall (07:36) and Joaquin Buckley's bizarre feud with Alex Pereira (11:20).After quickly previewing UFC Vegas 110 (14:06) and making picks (26:54), the Boys are joined by E. Casey Leydon (30:31), the newest addition to the team, about the launch of Uncrowned Films, his early days on the road with Ariel Helwani, and more.The Boys close the show with their P4P rankings of the scariest fighters in MMA history (56:30), your voicemails (1:18:33), and Super Chats (02:03:26).

Boys in the back Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. Ah, welcome in. We are back with another episode of the boys in the back. Unfortunately, today, as you can see, it is just the boy in the back. We got news this morning.

New York Rick has fallen ill. He was quite sick. He sent us a picture. very sickly looking, bulging eyes, pale sky. What is that noise happening over there? Oh my God, is that New York, Rick? What happened to him? New York, Rick, are you all right, man?

What's that in his hand? Is that a ring? What's happened to this man? Did he just bump the camera? No, no, Rick. Give it up! Give it up, Rick! How you feeling, man?

You don't look too good. What is this? Rick, man, you don't look so good, dude. Rick, man, you don't look so good, dude. I don't think you need to eat any fish. Prash, yeah. I mean, I could probably stand to lay off. with you.

Spiegel looks like he's well fed. The spider web getting caught up in it. Prash. The pumpkin in the shot.

Preface. I have to say you look fucking great. I think we all look great. God, you're sweating your ass. It is hot in there.

Gout is serious. Oh, the gout is serious. It's so hot. Welcome into our Halloween edition of the boys in the back, as you can see. It's double G

coming at you. Gandalf, mix of Gandalf the gray and Gandalf the white here, got my Gandolph pipe, and alongside me, as always, on this journey into Mordor, it's Schmeagle, it's Ghalm, it's Ghalm, it's Mr. New York, Rick. The man who hates the Lord of the Rings more than anyone is now its lowliest carry. Yeah, Gollum's been eating too many fish, I'll tell you that. The bodysuit looks great, man. I think you look good.

I disagree, but I do it all for you. I do it all for the fans out there. I love you guys. I will even degrade myself and debase myself to the point of participating in a Lord of the Rings theme costume for you. And just a reminder, everyone, we are in a professional office setting here. We did have to walk through. People wearing suits and nice clothing dresses this. So this is what we do for you guys. I'm not going to lie, my wizard robe is caught underneath my chair right now, so I'm a little restricted on where I can move. But, I mean, I have to say, this is a 10 out of 10 costume.

is a wizard costume like top 10 coolest costumes like walking around with a giant cloak here is it's it feels cool not only is it cool but it's it's simple too right it's not like overly complicated you can you can get the cloak you get the beard honestly i think i just wish i had this kind of hair i mean the hair is the hair is fantastic i'm living a great cosplay today uh the pipe Handoff got the latest tech. He's wearing a watch today. The pipe is fantastic. You know, would I rather be in that than a body suit, probably? But I think it worked out. The pipe's going to go hard at the Halloween party, because I'm going to pack this with some wacky tobacco, and we're going to get lit up. A PRJ?

A little PRJ in the pipe? Yeah. Tried to recreate. Did a little pumpkin carving last night. Tried to recreate the bug there in the corner. Wasn't very successful. Having carved a pumpkin in about 10, 15 years, it was more difficult than I anticipated. If I put this on, is it a bad omen? Or do I keep it on for the show? No, you can keep it on.

But, I mean, in the movies, he disappears and it's a... I will not disappear, but I might go through these fish by the end of the show. Not going to lie, man. The cloak really is struggling with the roly chair here. But we're going to power through. We're going to power through. We've got a great show playing for you today. Have you ever worn a dress before?

Just pull it up to your knees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, Frankie. Where's your costume about, Frank? That's right here. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. It's...

Oh. Hey, oh, look at Andy! Look at Andy as the tower! Wow! The eye over Mordor! Wow, this is incredible. We actually had no idea this was coming. What do we got? Big Dano's an astronaut?

But is that the first appearance of Dan? Despicable me. Shout out to backstage Dan, the goat. Shout out to Dan. Filling in for on-air Jordan. I've got the robe figured out. Is Dan on Com's? Is that an astronaut?

No, from Dispicable Me. Ah, okay. I like it. What is he from Dispicable May? The guy who wants to destroy the moon or something. Oh, okay. All right, all right. Vector.

His name is Vector. You know, it's got magnitude and direction. Andy, absolutely 10 out of 10 costume. Yeah. I made an unbelievable effort. Keeping it hidden as well, huge. Did you make the eye yourself? Wow.

Nothing like a homemade costume. Andy's a real one. Andy's a real one. Frank, you know. So can we be honest? I ordered this whole Gandalf the gray costume And in every picture The guy was wearing a beard in a wig

So I thought it came with a beard in a wig And we found out last night It didn't So on our best efforts We ended up with Gandalf the white Whose white suit was dirty So he's wearing his old Gandalf the gray suit Sometimes you're going to wear the throwback

So he starts as the gray and becomes the white Somebody didn't even watch the movies that he Yeah I did Talks about it walking a while Yes he starts as Gandalf the gray He gets thrown down into the hot lava from the Balrogard, and then he goes to Sal Maron. I mean, these names are tough.

Bell Rock. And then he's stuck on the top, and then the eagle picks him up, and then they're going into the battle of, what, Helms Deep, and then he pulls up on the white horse, and he's gangned off the white at that point. And then he's like,

it's like going super-sayan mode. I feel like I've got to get more use out of this thing for a little bit. I mean, it looks fantastic, I have to say. Looks hot, too. Oh, it is fucking hot. Shout out. Especially the body suits squeezing me like a fucking case sausage and this mask, but we do it all for you. It's time for Schmigel to do some walking.

What Rick says the movies do, it's time for him to actually do that, cut off a few pounds. I say we're two for two. Last year, we were Stone Cold Steve Austin and Moodang, and this year, a Lord of the Rings. I think we nailed it both years. I think last year was a bit of individual creativity. This was a little bit of collective creativity, and I think we landed in the right spot. All right.

Back into the show, we will listen to your voicemails and super chats. We will also have the great E. Casey Leiden making his debut on the program. He's just recently joined on Crown, already off to a hot start with the BKFC doc, as well as many more things in the pipeline coming from one E.K.K.C. Lidon, he'll join the show to, Help us break down UFC Vegas 110 and also do the pound-for-pound rankings.

In honor of Halloween, the scariest fighters. We will also see if the Parley Palazzo will ever win another bet again. I'm starting to believe we're going to need some of Gandalf's magic to make that happen. We'll see if it can happen on UFC Vegas 110. We'll also do bets. We'll preview the card. But let's start with some news and notes. A now viral video going around from DBX Nashville weigh-ins.

Yeah. we saw last night John Jones shows up on a horse wearing an eye patch Yeah feels like a slight at one Tom Aspinall I don't think there's much more to interpret there

That is a direct shot at Tom Aspinall As was the duck Being Photoshop with the eyepatch John I look I hate to say that John's allowed to kind of do this But there is a part of me that's thinking Okay

Like it was time You know Tom's holding the duck It was Tom's time. It seemed like he had the momentum behind him. I'm not mad at John for getting his lick back. The only thing that I wonder, though, is whether the fans will now all of a sudden be behind John again, or it will be split, or they'll be the one saying, like, John, you were the one who didn't want this fight. Tom signed on the dotted line, and you were the one that ultimately didn't show up.

But I'm okay with a little bit of gamesmanship from John Jones here. I'm a little bit of, I'm okay with a little bit of verbal and visual jousting. Yeah, I sort of feel the same. Like, you knew that this was going to happen if things didn't go. Tom Aspinall's way on Saturday night. And unfortunately, they didn't with the eye poke and the no contest. So we knew, we knew John Jones was going to have some stuff to say. He's getting his trolling out.

But ultimately, as you would say, I do agree with you that it's just like, you didn't take the fight. So, like, how much can you actually talk? Yeah, and I do wonder, as I say, said what the fan sentiment is going to be on this right like because it seemed like there was a moment in time especially as these negotiations were ramping up where everybody was behind tom like it was like john you're a duck you're a duck you're a duck you know it seemed like it was a wave of hatred toward john jones and now it seems like that has kind of almost been redirected toward tom and it might be time for john to have the upper hand in this but if it doesn't lead to a fight

i do wonder if how long this can last for john jones it's a fickle fan base like You see them turn quickly on Tom Aspinall after Saturday night. So I think it's going to be similar to what we saw since Saturday evening, which was half the fan base being like, Tom got eye poked. He couldn't see what else you wanted to do. And the other half being like, oh, he's a quitter. He was on his way to losing any way he wanted his way out. I think half the fan base is going to be like, oh, this is hilarious.

Great stuff from John Jones. And the other half's going to be like, you didn't take the fight, man. And you're in that half, right? The Tom's a quitter half? I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. bloodied, battered, breathing out of his mouth, saw his way out,

was about to get ten-aided by Cyril gone. And then he saw his way out and he took it just to get an eventual rematch and have to fight the exact same dude again. So yeah, we'll see how long John Jones keeps this going if every appearance that he makes in public has to do with the eye poke. It could get old fairly fast.

And I think all of this will be put to rest when we see the rematch in the coming months. Yeah. Tom has an opportunity to kind of like turn this all back, right? It seems like the world is, like I compared it, and I've thought of this, I've compared it to Alex Pereira post the first Magamette fight. Like everybody came out of the war work to be like,

Alex is washed, Magamette's the next guy, blah, blah, blah. One, he, his very next fight, that whole sentiment turned and it's Alex is the king, he never left and all these things. Like, as you said, it's very fickle this sport. And I think Tom, if he gets back in there and gets the double over Cyril gone,

everything will turn back to how it was beforehand. A thousand percent, man. I mean, look at the stars of today. Anytime they go on a losing streak, people fall off the bandwagon. Oh, they're trashed, they're washed, they were never any good. And then they're immediately back on them as soon as they get a win, Alex Pereira. The perfect example of that. Speaking of Alex Pereira,

Joaquin Buckley took to social media this week, his YouTube channel, I believe, and he told a story where he said that when he was about to fight Abdul Razak al-Hassin at the beginning of 2002, Razak al-Hassin pulled out of the fight. wanted to stay on the card. So he got a call about a replacement from his manager. He said his manager sounded spooked. He sounded scared. He didn't want to say the name of the fighter.

And Buckley guessed it. He said, you're talking about Alex Pereira, aren't you? Mind you, this would be one fight into Alex Pereira's UFC career. He would have had the sole win over Andreas Mikolidis. Wouldn't even have had the Sean Strickland knockout. Obviously wouldn't have had the Israel out of Sonia moment. really was not at his star power but Joaquin Buckley knew

he knew that they were calling about Alex Pereira and he was ready to take the fight and Alex Pereira turned it down he did not want to fight one Joaquin Buckley per him per walking Buckley he said that and that got back to

Alex Pereira who took to Instagram with some receipts and he posted direct messages between him and Joaquin Buckley from March of 2022 where Joaquin sent him an Instagram post of his own and Alex responded, why did you send me this post? Of the 15 that ran, you were the first. Now go back to the end of the line. It feels like Alex Pereira probably didn't turn down a fight with

Joaquin Buckley. Based on what Alex is saying, the first to run was actually Joaquin Buckley. So it depends on whose version of events you're going to believe. Ultimately, I don't think this matters. Like, they're not in the same weight class and I don't see any reason that a fight between Joaquin Buckley and Alex Perr would ever be made? Like, Alex Perra is a 205er who's looking at heavyweight, and Joaquin Buckley is a 170-pound guy? Like, it just feels like this is nonsense. Yeah, I can't imagine they're ever going to meet in the Octagon, and it feels

kind of weird that he decided to tell it three years later. Yeah. Three and a half years later. And also, according to Alex's version of events, like, didn't even happen, actually. Yeah. Feels odd. Feels odd on Buckley's part of it. Look, you know, Joaquin Buckley, I like, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

come under fire from fans at certain points I kind of like that he just like keeps the momentum going by talking and talking and talking but every once in a while there's one that's so off the mark that it just like doesn't really make sense like the Connor McGregor call out in the octagon this one it's like what is the aim

what I would like call out even that one I can kind of understand but like it's like you're not fighting Connor McGregor also you're not fighting Alex Pereira what give me the strategy here what are we actually aiming toward but I don't know I'm not as a down on Joaquin Buckley as everybody else. I feel like he's a good character for the sport.

All right. Let's go to this weekend's. Can't wait. Card. Yes. UFC Apex 110, which we just have to be totally honest. We had a great October, four stacked cards, two paper views in it, one headline by Alex Pereira, the other headline by Tom Aspinall. Unfortunately endings of that one. And then we saw Charles Oliver in the main event in Brazil. Great events throughout October. Then we have a stacked, a stacked UFC 322 taking place in just a couple weeks next two weeks aren't great no next two weeks aren't great we just have to

be told and I think this is the worst of the two even yeah yeah and I think it's okay to say that I think it's okay to recognize as my beard is falling off now and it's pulling down my earpiece as well and the hair going in your mouth yeah hair's all in my mouth we go we go a little bit simpler here I think it's okay to admit that this isn't a great card

I don't think it makes you a casual by saying it's a great card. If you think this card sucks, you're a casual, bro. I've heard that, and I'm standing by it. For me, it's a two-fight card. It's the main and it's the co-main. I say three. Okay, you're interested in Ketland Vieer and Norman Dumont? I think it's at least, look, it's a top-ranked fight.

I'm at least interested to see, look, that division needs help. That division needs a lot of help. I feel this way about how I feel about every heavyweight fight, which is like, if they're ranked and at least they can move up a spot or two, like it's consequential, because of how shallow those divisions are. Like, the division needs help desperately. I think Ketland Vieira is pretty good. I think Norma Dumont's pretty good.

And they could at least be a title challenger at some point in the near future. So I care about it from that perspective. There's at least something on the line here. The fact that they buried it so deep on the pre- I don't know why they did that. It's strange to me. Norm Dumont has five straight wins, bro.

If she beats Ketland Vieira, might as well give her the title shot if Menden Nunez isn't going to come back. Also, unless I'm mistaken, like Ketland's headline cards before, I think she, did she headline a Holly home? Oh, yeah. And Norma Dumont has...

Bring a 2022, baby. Yeah, Norma Dumont has headline cards before. It's a bit odd that they'd be buried this deep. But as we said earlier this week, I couldn't give a fuck less about card order, so I really don't care. Who could forget the legendary Ladd Dumont? Ladd-Dumont, one of the best fights ever.

All the 2021. Chuck Mindenhall's Fight of the Century, I believe. Yeah, yeah. Now we see Lad, you know, ships passing in the night. We see Lad making her BKFC debut. Yes. It's incredible. All right, let's go to the main event.

Steve Garcia is taking on David Onama. To me, this is the fight of the card. There's a reason it's the main event. Absolute banger. Six straight wins for one Stephen Garcia. Before the Calvin Cater fight, he had had his last nine victories come by K.O. He did drop Cater in that fight, won 30, 27 across all three judges' scorecards. He's an exciting fighter.

He's here for a scrap. He's here to knock people out. It hasn't gone for a takedown since 2021. And his counterpart in David Onama is down for a scrap as well. Four straight wins for him. and honestly, if he doesn't slip up against Nate Landware, where it looked like he was going to finish landware, and then Nate the train came out.

Then Nate the train came out. And he ended up losing by a majority of decision. That's seven straight wins for him at that point. He's never been finished. He's ironclad tough. And I think he's going to bring a fight to Steve Garcia on Saturday night. It's a closely line fight, I think, for good reason. I think it's going to be competitive, and I think it's going to be fun.

Yeah, I agree with you. It's almost a carbon copy to a certain degree in terms of guys who like to be on the front foot, guys who like to bring the action, guys who like to chase finishes, but also the toughness, right? In the moments where they've been in danger, they've been able to summon something and find a way to stay in the fight and then bring it back to their opponent.

I do ultimately side with Garcia, though. I feel like he's a little bit of the cleaner technician. I feel like he's a little bit more proven. He's doing it against a level of competition that I think is a little bit better. And as far as the toughness goes, I'd give him a slight edge in that regard too. So it's almost like this mirror match of sorts,

but I do lean Garcia. I kind of feel like it's the same thing as the Vernao versus McKenna fight, whereas I'm leaning Steve Garcia, but if David Onama wins, I'll be like, yeah, David Onama won, man. That's really not that surprising to me. And the way they get it done is exactly the same, right?

They're going to have the same gameplay, to a certain extent, right? Mine is the takedowns. I imagine that this is mostly going to stay standing. Maybe Onama goes for a takedown if it's getting sketchy on the feet, but I imagine this will be mostly a standing fight. Yeah, and as you said, this is one of those that, like, I know it's super cliche and it's kind of lame to be like it could go either way, but it literally can go either way because whoever has the best night on Saturday is going to be the one that wins it. They're going in there to do the exact same thing.

Apex? Yeah. Could get, like, some nice of those crowdless, big shots, you know, you can really hit landing. This is a good fight for the apex. It's a pretty, it's also a good fight for an arena because an arena would go crazy. for it as well. It's a good fight for the Apex, but it's a horrible headliner. Like this is a, this is a shirt prelim bout on a real card.

It shouldn't be headlining any, any UFC card, but if it's going to headline any, it's going to be UFC Apex 110. I mean, to be brutally honest, love Randy Brown, but like next week is also not a worthy headliner. No. In its own right. I mean, Steve Garcia finds himself at number 12 in the featherweight rankings. David O'Nama

finds himself at number 13. That just, to me, is not main event worthy, but that's okay. They're going to put on their 43 cards. We had a great October. We got a great pay-per-view coming up. This is what it is. Yeah. Steve Garcia is the pick for me. Same. You as well. Let's go to the actual main event, the co-mate event, the return of salsa boy, Wado Cortez-A Costa, versus Ante Delia, who we just saw like six weeks ago in Paris walked through Marcin Tibera. This guy was fighting on FNC cards in April

against Jorgon de Castro and now a mere six months later he could find himself as like a top seven heavyweight in the UFC two wins under his belt. Yeah, he had a successful run in the PFL but then champion in 2022. But then after that was on the regional scene and so yeah, look he's a he's a very

dangerous guy. In the PFL what I saw from him was like moments of feeling like he could be really like a top type of guy and then moments of feeling like i can see why he's here and not necessarily in the ufc the the first performance of the ufc though open my eyes a little bit to okay maybe maybe he is ready for this moment maybe he belongs here now i don't really rate very highly waldo cortezza costa he also is somebody who gives you opportunities to stay in the fight because he's going to win 30 27 29 28 splitie that's the way he wins it's not usually a finish and so

I think there's going to be an opportunity for Delia to find something in this fight. So I lean that way. Am I going to be shocked at a Waldo Cortez 29, 28 split? Probably not. Of course I wouldn't. Because it's how he does it every time?

Yeah, of course I wouldn't. Aldo Cortez-Acost, the three first round finishes, when? I didn't see any of those. You look like you're having PTSD flashbacks of Waldo Cortez-A-Costa getting his hand raised in the decision. Yeah, Waldo-Cortez-A-Costa, another test at the top end of the vision,

you shall not pass. You shall not pass, although salsa boy. Yeah, I've completely lost the left ear on the beard, so it's just going to be hanging. You can hear me better. Any way like this. Yeah, I'm going to go Ante Delia. Can he finish Cortez?

How do you see it going? Of course he can finish it. I mean, he has that finishing. The way he did it to Marcin-Taburah, I don't know, man. If Sergei Pavlovich isn't going to finish you. Yeah. I imagine this one probably is a decision. Sergei anymore.

I know, right? Like, I feel like we never really talk about that. Like, did Tom Asperon all change the course? I mean, obviously

he changed the course in his career. But like, did he change the way he fights? I will say, the aggression was still there in that last fight

and, you know, we're kind of bagging on Waldo Cortez Costa. He's, he's an active striker. He's extremely tough.

He did take some really tough shots from Sergei Pavlovich and survived them. I don't know if Ante is going to be able to get the finish,

but I do think that eventually the Waldo Cortez like I'm going to let you at three rounds to beat me is going to start it's going to start leading to finishes for his opponents so I wonder if this is going to be one of those times if I had to make a pick I'm thinking Ante by decision but I wouldn't be surprised by a finish either it'll be an interesting one I will be watching I can promise you that much

at least the top two will be eyes glued to the TV gets the big Ante was in the news lately because of Tom Aspenal I was going to say like, how nervous does Dana start getting that he's going to have an Al Jemaine Sterling Mirado Alizvili situation on his hand if Ante Delia finds himself in the top six, one win away from a title shot? Who do you give him after that? Sergei Pavlovich, maybe?

Yeah, but I don't know if Dana White's thinking Tom Aspinall as champ, you know? I don't know if his mentality is like that anymore. It's interesting the way that heavy weight's going to play out. I mean, we got talking about the boxing, won't fight Delia. If Delia moves his way into the top six, what are we doing with the rematch? Volkov is John Jones coming back Major Disarray here at the Glamour Division in the U.S. City.

The Glamour Division? Yeah. Since when? The Hollywood Division. Anyway. Ante can really breathe some life into the top of the division that I think desperately needs it.

Like we're looking at Volkov potentially being next after Cyrilgan and after Cyrilgan and Tom Aspinol resolved their engagement. And so that's like that's not great prospects. Like I thought Volkov had a great performance,

but I don't think anybody's clamoring for a Cyril Gahn or Tom Aspenal rematch with Volkov. So, yeah, it could use a name like Ante, but as we said, like if Tom is still the champion, that's going to be rough. And so I don't know. I don't know what you do, but he needs to just keep winning. A featured bout of the evening,

Jeremiah Wells back after almost a two-year layoff at 39 years old, taking on Temba Garimbo, who's back after the loss to Vicente Lucke earlier this year. that fight's happening it's happening the rest of this card is all happening Isaac Dalgarian

Yater de Valle I want to see Isaac fight I'm interested in that journey I'll say that these are two young guys that like you look back in a few years I always wait for like

three or four years from now when we look back at an apex card and like I think what is it like 264 obviously that was a McGregor card but people look back on it and be like

holy shit this was so stacked it was like DDP was on it I think Aspinall was on it. Ilya was on it. Oh, shit. Gregor was main event. Let me pull this up.

But like people like, obviously that was a paper view and it's just like sneaky like low key like most stacked card ever. Like looking back on it. Like what is the what is going to be the apex card that we look back on? Michelle Pereira was on it. It will only be. You had Sean O'Malley, Dricus 2 Plus C. Ilya, Taitui Vasa, Gilbert Burns, Dustin Pori, Connor McGregor, Wonder Boy. it's a stacked card.

It's a stacked card that wasn't like you wouldn't have looked at exactly the same at the time there will never be an Apux card that you look back and go wow that guy from the prelims

it will never happen. I'm just saying maybe maybe one thing paper view yeah maybe one day we're looking back on this one and it's just like

you're telling me that this card had not only Isaac Dolgarian on it but it also had Dante Johnson no we're not going to be saying that this was before SD Dumas went on his run

uh yeah you got Alan Asimento Cody Durden shout-out, rep in Atlanta. Charles Radke, Chuck Buffalo back against Daniel Frunza. Yeah, there's some recognizable names, but this is definitely a,

man, I'm going to catch up on the results type situation. Timi Kuwama versus Chang-Houli. Montserrat Ruiz versus Elise Ardalen. Mm-hmm. And then my main event, Phil Roe versus Shokkyo-Koh.

For sure. What about the actual ranked fight? Carnalosi. Oh, Ketland Vieira, Norman Dumont This is a shallow division Ketland's a dog, are you surprised? Not. Norman Dumont has won her last five fights, bro.

She beat the fuck out of Irene Aldana. I know, but I think Ketland's going to win, and also, I don't know. Yeah, I think Ketland's going to win. Should we make a Gandalf Gallum pack a pipe bed? I'll take, I'll take Dumont and you take Viera? Do I get odds? What do I get?

Fish. Yeah, you get fish, I get a packed pipe. What's the wager, though? I don't know. All right, we'll figure it out. But yes, I will take Ketland. All right. I got Norman Dumont.

All right. That's the, that's the boys in the back rivalry of the week. Yeah. Yeah, give me Norman Dumont. All right. Don't be. Shout out. All right, that's UFC 110.

Yeah, USC Vegas 110. Shout out. Parlay pals and picks? Yeah, let's do it. Parlay pals are just on a sour run right now. It's truly bad. Oh, look, there's the card. Graphics theme built one up.

Shout out. Main events are bangor. Co-main. big stakes in the heavyweight division Isaac Dolgarian Yatter de Valley Charles Ragki, Daniel Franz Allen Asimento Cody Durden, shout out, shout out, shout out, shout out, shout out, shout out. Do we get new graphics, Frank?

Absolutely. Nice, nice. Graphics department's on fire. On fire, man. Shout out to him. Parlay pals for last week, just a whole mess. Tom Aspen all-no contest.

Joseph Parker losing. It's like a Christmas tree. Jelton Almeda losing. Walter Valker though Good for that heel hook Walter Walker All right this week I've already gotten Pizzi's pick

He took the undefeated Dante Johnson Frankie why don't you go first I'll go second Rick you go I'll tell you why Okay Because I don't remember who I picked

So you gotta go with somebody else Why don't you just Why don't you pick the whole parlay This week Connor You want me to pick the entire parley Yeah No I'm not gonna do that I'm gonna take one Ante Delia

To stop the reign of Salsa Boy Frankie, go ahead, man. Billy Alacana, money line, don't mind telling you. Billy Alicana in one of the most boring fights of all time. Now, UFC Abu Dhabi last time out. Hopefully he did get the dub. He did get the dub. It's a big dog in that one, though. He heard you say that, and he's going extra hard this time.

You're going to regret saying that. I'm not going to lie. The wig has completely locked my earpiece out, and I'm just kind of hearing an echo of friend. You know what? I'm all right with that. If you need to fix it, go ahead. No, no, no, no. A pair of headphones down there, too.

Got out. Frank, you want to pick for me? Uh, yeah. Fish. You know what? I pegged you. You kept saying Isaac Dolgarian during the breakdown. I picked you as an Isaac Dolgarian.

I like it. All right. That gets us to plus 340 on Draft King's sportsbook right now. That get us back into the green, but are we going to win this week? Eek. Yeah, we're going to go. I think we've lost like nine straight. I've lost count.

I think we've lost like nine or ten straight. Look, consistency is key. It's, we're dog shit at this. No, no, no. we're going to get back, we're going to get back on it. If we hit this one, we're in the green, right? Yep. Yeah, we're going to hit this one. That's a big if.

That's how it is every week. No, no, no, no. We just keep taking longer and longer shots. Like, we're going to be down like 25 units and be like, plus 2,600. Listen, if we've only lost 43 straight, if we win this one, we're back in the green. People have a comeback story. Should I switch to Ketland as a dog? Hell, hell, no, hell no, I don't know. Norman's going to put it on her, bro. Shout out to her.

All right, my picks this week. I only got two. We'll keep it simple. co-main main event. My guys. Pick number one. Mr. Antidellia. Shout to the Croatian killer. Ante Delia gets it done against Salsa Boy, ends his reign of terror. And then main event, you know, I love a good Steve Garcia scrap. We'll ride with Stevie G to continue the windstreet to become a player at Featherweight. He said that Alexander Volcanowski's holding up the division. Kind of a crazy take. Yeah, that was a take. of a crazy take from Steve Garcia, but

bro's looking for gold. Bro's looking for gold. Win this and then book Steve Garcia versus Arnold Allen. How's that sound? I like that fight. Arnold would strap with him. Arnold Allen just needs a damn fight, man. Yeah.

Arnold Allen just needs a dead fight. Well, he was fighting those street thugs, remember? He got jumped. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, that'll do it for the picks. That'll do it for UFC 110. Let's bring in

in just one moment. We will bring in. Documentarian, extraordinaire. E. Casey, not only a documentary in, but also a fighter as well. Someone call him the goat and every man

he fights, he films, he edits, he truly does it all. E.K. Selighton, he just joined the team a few weeks ago, already off to a hot start. There he is. Wow, no costume. You didn't get the memo about the costume, Casey. well you guys didn't either

what is this what is this I mean this is pretty good this is unbelievable here Casey we were just breaking down UFC Vegas 110 this feels like a like a Casey Leiden card

this feels like one that you have circled on the calendar for months at a time you're like oh yeah I actually I rolled with him one time at the gym he's got a great twister I want to see if you can pull it off

on the prelims what fight do we have circled here on UFC Vegas 110 I had to bring it up. I had to bring it up. I'm a big fan of Canejo, just because I'm into neck tattoos, and she looks scary. Looks a lot scary than their actual abilities as a fighter, but so I'm always just into that. She looks the part. And, you know, two ranked bantam whites, lady bantam whites buried way on the prelimbs that, which

which is very apexy of them. Yeah, kind of doing them dirty there. Also, crazy of you to refer to Montserrat Ruiz as Conejo. Yeah. That's some Casey Lydden's stuff right there. Yeah. And of course, yeah, and Steve Garcia, the man is just a very violent, very violent savage individual fighting out of Albuquerque, New Jersey. So, you know, I always kind of, my heart is close to all the Jackson Wink boys and girls.

So, yeah, that's, and then, oh, yeah, then, uh, onto Elijah, just, um, I just, I just want to see the, uh, the, uh, him riser ranks and just, you know, Dana get more and more red as he, you know, goes up the ranks and then, you know, all that, this kind of really T-moo version of, uh, uh, Aljo and, uh, yeah, Aljo and Mara. I was, I was, I'm old, so I'm going, I'm going cost check versus Fitch. Oh, what about, uh, uh, uh, Rashad Evans versus John Jones. although they broke the treaty. Yeah, they broke the treaty. Yeah, they chased a bag.

But, yeah, it's a card. Yeah, it's a card. It's a card that's taking place on Saturday. It's okay. We got a couple bangers to close out the year. I have to say, a lot of people are going to be quite excited to cash their Casey Liden to not wear sleeves on the program, minus 200 ticket. Appreciate it.

Yeah, there you go. The gun show. No sleeves. And last week, we were with you here in New York. city. It was quite chilly. You also rock shorts for that one. Yeah, that was a mistake of my part, actually. I was trying to play it cool. I was like, but me, I guess I was like, I can handle this weather. But, well, I'm thinking we're going to be shooting indoors. You know, we're inside various restaurants in New York, but then 90% of what we did was either in front of the restaurant

or it was an open-air restaurant. So once we stopped filming, I did get kind of cold, and I kind of had to just walk around and look cool and, yeah. I like to think it was not a good choice. I like to think it was homage. It was a nod. All right, Casey. The people demanded this. The people in the super chats in the comment section said,

you need to have Casey on. And so we obliged. My first question for you, Casey, is the first film is out on Crown Films debut. What is BKFC? You are the filmmaker. You are the brains behind this whole thing. What is your reaction to the feedback? What are the things that you can tell us about the making of it,

that maybe you can reveal some things behind the scenes for the fans? Tell us about what is BKFC and how you're feeling now that it's out there to the world? Well, firstly, I was just very happy that because it's long form, you know, everyone's like, oh, everyone likes TikTok videos. Everyone wants everything vertical. So it was good to just shoot a long form feature, basically. I think we had 47 minutes. My original cut was about an hour and 10 minutes.

So we did cut it down and made a little tighter. But maybe we'll release like the director's cut later, you know. But it was just a, but no, I was just happy. I was just happy to be there. I was happy to, I was happy just to, I don't know, like this, like, okay, for the last few years, ever since, like, pandemic, I haven't been really a road war. I'm kind of like working from home. man, and I experienced all these UFC, all these combat sports events from home, and it's fun, but I don't know, I'm just like, I always have to, I have to be part of it.

I mean, that's why I even got into fighting, actually, like, fighting, fighting, because being a spectator wasn't enough for me. I had to kind of, I need to, I need to feel it, you know, so without actually getting into that ring, I feel like just me being there, like, I, I feel blessed with the opportunity to kind of share the feelings and the emotions of being that close to the fight without literally being in the fight. And just me personally, I love doing that. That's what I want to do. And I'm just very fortunate that you guys and Ariel gave me an opportunity to help kind of tell that story. And I was actually one of the few people.

I think maybe me and Feldman might have been the only couple of people who were actually at BK. I was at too. I basically did the same thing at BKFC1. It's just without aerial. But, uh, so I was a BKFC1, BKFC2. And so I was, so I've seen them grow into what they are now. And it was just very interesting because to me, essentially it was, it, it felt exactly the same as BKFC1, except there's just more people and like just, uh, the walk away from the locker room to the ring is longer. but the emotions and the intensity and just, I don't know, and just the, all the moving parts behind the scenes, it kind of felt the same, honestly. Yeah, you mentioned it feeling like a little bit of a throwback, right?

A little pre-pandemic kind of era and you being on the road and being able to experience the sights and the sounds and be there, let's go back even further because I feel like maybe, you know, there's certain fans that might be tuning in from pandemic era, right? Who might have just started watching and don't know, about the legend status of Casey and know that you and Ariel were traveling the road together

and getting all those interviews that Ariel is known for and also the fight night kind of stuff, the behind the scenes content. So tell us let's go all the way back actually. Let's start with how did you get your start in this business, in the fight business and what was the first thing you did?

In the fight business, the first thing I did is I was living, this is about 20 years ago, I was living in L.A. I was working on kind of, I don't know, just crap. I was working on documentaries in L.A. that really never panned out. And I just happened to be in the right room at the right time. And I got offered to shoot and edit a pilot reality show about Gary Shaw and Scala, who were one of the founders of Elite XC back in the day. So I shot a reality show pilot that never aired.

It was just kind of in-house that was supposed to be kind of sold and try to sell it. And from there, they liked it. And I wound up working for Elite XC at the time as an editor. So I did like their promos and countdown shows and stuff, which is kind of cool because kind of because the first piece I ever worked on for MMA for a fight card was a piece for about

KJ Noons versus Crazy Horse now felony and recently with Ariel previously Charles Bennett Charles Bennett yeah we shot was at fight circus and I got to see felony there so I was like well kind of for a soccer

he was like the first thing I really ever worked on and I was like I know you he's no doubt I am but So, yeah, so I worked on EliteXC, and then when I was working at LeadXC, I actually met Ariel as a reporter, and he was working maybe for MMA rated, I think, at the time. I'm not even sure what it was at the time. And I was just like, oh, I get, he works hard, you know, but I'm working like production, like for the actual promotion. He's doing the media side. And honestly, I didn't really even understand what the media did.

I was just kind of like living in my world. And then once Elite XE went under, that was around the time. UFC 104 and that was in Los Angeles and I think Ariel was working for a fan house at the time and we kind of knew each other and he basically contacted me and like hey can you be my camera guy at UFC 104 in Los Angeles and I was and we did a good job and that's kind of the start of our beautiful relationship the rest is history as they say what how long was that run When you start working with Ariel at that time, you'll see 104 to when?

When did you move from behind the camera? Like, when was that transition? When did I move from behind the camera? When did you stop being Ariel's cameraman? Like, what was the era? What was that run? Oh, basically, too, we went to, I think, ESPN. So it was 2018-ish.

Yeah, it was in Chicago. I remember, it was in Chicago, and it was weird. Yeah, it was his last card. He was going to ESPN. and the way the ESPN, I guess, works. They had their own camera guys and editors and stuff, so I was like, all right, bye, Ariel. But, yeah, that was it.

And then I wind up doing my own thing at this other website called M.M.A. Fighting. Heard of it. Got out. Heard of it, yeah. Great, great website. Check it out if you want. No, I'm joking.

I was, jeez, I was an M.A. fighting for over a decade. It's cool out. But, um, and, uh, yeah. And that was, what was that? I feel. Yeah, what the fuck? That was misplaced, friend. Uh, one question I had, you, you do these incredible, uh, these incredible videos. Like, back in the day, you guys would do, like, walking talks with Connor McGregor, John Jones in New Mexico, everything like that. You're a one-man band. As we saw last week, as I'm sure people saw, uh, at the BKFC card.

Do you ever, as a guy that works in production, well. Have you ever gotten like 10, 20 minutes into a shoot and realize, oh, shit, I didn't hit record. Oh, shit. I'm not getting audio on the microphone. Like, Connor McGregor's dropping bars in front of you. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity and you're just like, oh my God, I never hit record. You're kind of, you're kind of a jerk for even saying that, because that is my nightmare all the time. Like, I'm knocking on wood for you. Yeah, very important scene. And then like, I kind of look at my viewfinder and look at the, make sure the little red dot is there like it does like that that's essentially the nightmare situation i have recorded scenes

and forgot the press record definitely a few times but luckily it wasn't you know connor dropping his no eating blueberries and yeah thing in a potline or something whatever he does the scene of the moment you missed you missed the minor thing yeah yeah yeah usually i missed the minor things and stuff and like even even um even uh our recent shoot we did uh with uh mr bronson there was like no one's going to notice luckily I'm the editor also so no one no no never finds out

you're just going to say what are you talking about man that wasn't on camera yeah yeah we didn't yeah I was a back you said that behind the scenes what's what's like a give me a memory from that time that you did do on the road with Ariel what's like like because there's been so many iconic interviews

that's how I became a fan of this like watching those interviews that you and Ariel were doing was the thing that got me to go let me email this guy because I want to work with him. I want to do whatever it takes. Like it looks like fun, but it's also something I'm super passionate about.

Give me like one, two of your favorite memories from that era. One that sticks out is always when, um, we interviewed Rampage in Denver. It was a pre-fight interview. And during the interview, Rampage decides to,

um, start making eyes. So I'm shooting the interview. The Rampage is in front of me. He's talking Ariel. And Rampage kind of gets distracted because he sees this very attractive woman on the side. And he starts kind of hitting on her. And the Ariel informs Rampage.

Like, that's my wife. He's looking at. And then Rampage looks at me. We kind of look at each other. I'm like, oh, crap. Are we supposed to fight now? I'm not sure. And no, but the Rampage kind of gives me dabs and like, yeah, what's up?

You know, so that was just kind of a stupid moment. But you think you could have taken them? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. No. Some of the memories. You know, overall, just my general, just overall memory is more just just, and I know you know this feeling too, just working with Ariel and working at his, matching Ariel's work rate, I guess. I don't know, like just his, his intent, not intensity is not the right word, just professionalism, I guess.

I don't know if it's like, he raises the bar, he raised the bar in me, like, because, you know, I don't know, I work in MMA. People, it's kind of this rag tag group of people that work in the industry. Yeah. And Eric bought such a level of professionalism that I felt, I easily, not easily, but like, I, I happily matched it. Yeah. And I think that's why we hit it off so well in terms of our professionalism. professionalism, working and stuff. So that's really what's about. And then, so me and Ariel had like a good, I don't know, since ESPN till bare knuckle, we haven't had, we've obviously talked to each other and

know hung out and stuff. But we haven't worked together in six something years. And boom, you know, like we instantly clicked. I mean, we were back there again. We knew exactly where we wanted. We could know, we could throw ideas to each other without stepping each other's toes, you know, creatively and everything and I think uh that's and I think it re-answer your question too much but I don't know that that's that's really been what's that that's been the kind of the best part about coming back to you back with Ariel back with uncrowned uncrowned is that it's like nothing like we didn't miss a beat you know it's kind of like when you you're your best friend you don't see for 10 years and as soon as you hang out yeah you catch up for like a couple minutes but after

that you're back to normal you're just talking smack you know just having fun and that's what it felt like with me and Ariel. It's like, just as soon as we kind of caught up with you, like, oh, Ariel's got another kid, you know, stuff like that. And then we, uh, you know, like, and, uh, we instantly just like, boom, we were there and we just, um, we knew what to expect from each other. And, um, it was really, uh, it was, it was refreshing. I mean, not that had any doubt that wouldn't be there.

But, um, it was, it was comforting to know that, all right, you know, we, I think, you know, Ariel made the right decision bringing me on I made the right decision joining you guys so I think that's sorry I didn't answer your question

No no that's good We're happy to have you Casey we couldn't be any more excited We have an audio guy That works in the back His name is Mysterious Frank And he was he was itching to ask you a question And he's just honored to meet you as well

Oh hi Casey My name is Frank Big Fan I was just curious if you might be able to explain to some of those that may not know of you? Like, how did you get into shooting documentaries? Like, what, was it always fighting? Was it other industries? And where were you based out of originally?

Originally, I'm from Houston, Texas. And, no, no, like, I think I'm kind of a rare, a rare person in this, in this MMA world, because I didn't, until I got my first job making, editing promos, I didn't know anything about Ultimate Fighting. It was literally just that video cassette you see a Blockbuster by the Faces to Death. I didn't watch Combat Sport. That's exactly how I was exposed to it.

Wow, that's funny. Because at Texas, I think nobody really knows what Faces to Death is outside of Texas. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. I know for sure of that. Yeah, I think, I would. You would.

Yeah, so, yeah, so I came in through it, through uh so i so i worked on like kind of i did like my own i went to school in houston and i worked on rap videos as a kind of day job in houston i did like work that was around that time like paul wall the the the slim thug chameleon air um who am i missing um a little a little pre mike jones i kind of i moved right before mike jones got big but around that era that switch house if you're if you're familiar with a texas houston rap dj screw right right right in kind of the in between dj screw it just kind of passed away but screw was still obviously very big in houston so kind of that transition between dj screw and uh uh i can't come out i can't ruin the names

now but uh kind of rap a lot switch house and like that started getting picked up picked up and it kind of got big on the national level so i started working the music videos for that and i was also working on a lot of corporate like just like i i worked on uh commercials for um frankly no just um lubies the cafeteria oh lubes i haven't heard that name it's so long man yeah lubies so lubies is uh if you watch king at the hill the old king of the hill luan her phone name is louan platter luam platter is a reference to a dish that senior citizens get at at lubies I didn't even know that. It's called the Lou Ann Platter.

Yeah. I love it. So, yeah, I worked on that. And then basically, I kind of hit a ceiling as far as, like, where I could go in the industry. And then so I wind up moving to L.A. I met some people on a shoot while they were in Texas. And they, yeah, moved to L.A. I'm like, okay, so I moved to L.A.

And when I lived in L.A., I worked on this, I worked on a documentary that never was released. But it was a really cool documentary. We shot at the Comedy Store. It was called The Ding Dong Show. and um google it google ding dong show no don't google that oh yeah but i love comedy mode yeah incognito mode maybe but uh from that um i just happened to be in the right room the right time and uh some guys like i because uh la is a union town as far as uh production i wasn't union on that time and they're like hey here's here's 500 bucks can you edit this i'm like all right

cool and uh that was kind of uh yeah that's how it got started and I knew nothing about the sport. Nothing, nothing, zero. They just gave me a bunch of DVDs. Actually, the first thing I had to edit was a sizzle reel for Elite XC to for investors. And they just handed me about 20 DVDs of Jungle Fight, which is a promotion. I think that still exists. Oh, yeah, shout to Jungle Fight.

Yeah, Jungle Fight. So, yeah, I just edited a sizzle reel. And then, like, with Scissor Real is like something for investors. and they send that out and then I wanted to get hired and that was kind of the start. I think Hanato Moikano had some fights on jungle fight.

Oh yeah, a lot of the Brazilians came from 200, yeah. Shout out to him. Casey, what can we expect from uncromed films going forward? What do you excited about? What can we expect? And also, what is your

white whale documentary? Ariel's always like, oh, we got to get to rise in. We got to get to, you know, these European shows. For you, what is the white whale? put it into the universe and let's make it happen yeah uh right now as far as the big shows as far as just covering a show it'll be a rising new year's eve card that's like i've

pre pandemic i pretty much me and uh esther my wife uh we went to the goat uh we went to japan almost every year to go to the New Year's cards at Risen. And it's funny because, like, I guess I kind of jump me back a little bit. Like, I worked in MMA. I swear, probably, like, all through my elite XC years and even probably after, like, UFC 170, I don't know. Like, I, I, not that 170, but a few, a few years to work in the sport. Like, I really still, it was still just a job to me, honestly.

I mean, it was like, it was cool. I got it. It was still like just dudes beating each other up, which I guess it is. But I really didn't get the martial arts side of it or just, you know, I don't know. I didn't see it the same way. But it's when I started watching actually Old Pride at that time, Dream and then Dream became Rising. It was when I started watching Japanese MMA. And I started watching a lot of K-1 and stuff.

I really kind of, that was what kind of flipped the switch for me. You know, that's like, oh, I get it. This is what it. This is, this, I don't know. There's something of the pageantry, the way they did in Japan, that I just fell in love with. And so I got to go out there a few times to go to New Year's Eve cards. New Year's Eve cards at the Saitama. But I've only kind of worked like, you know, I shoot the press conference, you know, the post-fight interviews.

But I really haven't been in the locker. And I haven't been ringside. I haven't really felt like it would is to live that show, like, in the walkouts and everything. So definitely, uh, that is the white world going, me and an aerial going for a new big card and seeing the whole set, seeing the rehearsals, seeing just, man, like, like, experiencing that in Japan, like, it's cool seeing big UFC cards, but like nothing for me matches that over, how it is over there. I mean, yeah, I enjoy the big cards. I enjoy BFC. I enjoy all that. I mean, I want to go to KSW card. I want to go a big octagon card in Europe and stuff. but it's definitely the rising cards which I kind of really I want to really get even closer to

that and maybe cover some street beeps Hey street beef I'm talking about language bro I've run through pretty much every single video on their YouTube channel I got post notifications on on social streetbeats that's a great one you mentioned Octagon Octagon 94

next year at the stadium show in Frankfurt that is my white whale of something that we go cover Where is Street Beef's filmed? Where do they do it? Anywhere and everywhere. There's not one arena for it? There's not one empty parking lot.

Yeah, it's just... Every time I've seen it, it looked like the same backyard with like, you know, particle board walls put up. Yeah. I assume it was the same. Florida to the hills of Tennessee, they will fight anyway. Shout out the street. Yeah, they'll have... I don't think they fight, but they've had matches in L.A.

I live in L.A. County. LA County, but I think they like around the Inland Empire right out there I think they've had matches like Like the guy Like one of the street beefs guys I wanted me really bad is Shinnigami I don't know if he

I'm not versed in the street beefs Okay He's like Connor He's a famous guy he did Shinagam he did the head kick knockout In like four seconds Whatever he's like this big dude But I want to see

I want to feel I want to I want to be in I kind of want to fight in street beefs You want to fight in street beef? Beefs? Undefeated Casey Ladin is saying... Now we're talking about... Now we're talking about a real documentary behind the scenes inside the locker room with

E. Casey Leiden. You think they got a locker? Break it. Locker room. We'll bring our own locker. Inside the somebody shed in this backyard in the Inland Empire. That's crazy. I mean, there's something kind of raw and interesting. Oh, for sure. Getting in a fight.

I will say... Again, on grass. You're fighting... So you're not playing concrete. I think, I mean, I do have limitations on, like, oh, gosh, it's just dangerous. But, like, by the own grass, you know, and just, when you're grappling, it's just, like, dirt and mud and everything in your face. And, I don't know, I just, and, like, I don't know. And, like, literally everyone is, like, on the cage wall. It's not, like, a cage and everyone's kind of sitting down.

Like, they're, like, right there grabbing the fence, you know? I don't know. I just, that's kind of, like. For your own health and safety, I'm hoping that you don't, but maybe one day. We'll get you on street beast. We'll get you the belt there, and then we'll fly across the world to. Dan Hooker and we'll do the one-minute scraps. What about a car jitsu?

Yeah, then we'll get car jitsu phone booth fights. It's going to be incredible. All right, Casey, we have a segment here called Pound-for-Pound rankings. It's where we go through our top five of various subjects. We thought you'd like to join in this with your elite MMA knowledge.

In honor of Halloween, we are doing pound-for-pound top five scariest fighters in M.A. history. Any five, any era anytime. The list is actually most intimidating but to match the Halloween theme

we call this scary. Right, yeah. Who who you least want to fight? Who it's like, bro, I'm not getting in there with that dude. No, no, I'm not doing that. There is no price tag to get me in there with that dude. Frankie, what's the order going to be? The order today will be Frank, then Casey, then

Rick, then Connor. Nice. Starting off of my number five Here we go, Frank, I can't wait for this 2024, the Coda Dichuba How did you know? No, it's Andre Harlowski Okay

Seen here wearing Vampire Teague Shit's scary, bro That era of Andre He was a monster I think he's still a monster Followed up by my number four Vampire Teeth or is like dog teeth

No, I was like vampire Insen Inouye Was he in the Yakuza? Was he not? We'll never know, but he's scary as hell. And it's Josh Farnett. I'm reading my own list backwards. Not only are you reading it backwards, but you also created the list graphic.

You know what? These are all equally, all equally scared. Enson's never looked better. You never seem to not top yourself. Here we can rectify number three. Mike Perry The man's That's not a bad shout

Mike Perry's not a bad shot He's not on my list Seeing here looking Scary a O'Sest Back to my number two now Anything you want to say about Josh Barnett

I'm just going to cover Josh Barnett As he puts instant in a way up there 24 was a heavyweight champion Has anyone Tell me that I couldn't find this Anyone younger

Since he achieved that? Josh Barnett Yeah I guess not heavyweight John Jones was a younger UFC champion John Jones is the youngest ever And then my number one Wait is number two ensign or what

Like what are we doing That's insin in a way Okay okay Do we have a picture of insin in a way Yes looking extremely scary Ensign Inouye's wife is on TikTok And I'm obsessed with them Like talking about it

Like she does these videos Sometimes ensign is in them It's incredible I love that means me and Frank Having zero overlap I love it What's interesting though Is that when I was trying to find images of Inson in a way looking extra scary.

Apparently he has like a foundation now. Oh, Enson's like an awesome dude. He's a humanitarian, man. Yeah. But like even seeing these humanitarian photos, it's like you just know like he's tatted up. Oh, yeah. All this history. It's scary.

But scariest of all from my pound for pound, scariest fighters is Hamza. I'm sorry. Like the guy in almost every photo. Why are you sorry? Literally freaks me out. Oh, shit. I don't know. The wolf.

He's pretty scary, man. This is a fantastic list. The Ensign, you know, snafu aside. Like, this is a great list. I'm surprised it's so old school, though. But it's quite good. It's a good combo of new and old.

They just don't make them like they used to, you know? Unless you're Hamzad or Mike Perry. Hey, people forget, man. People forget. People forget. All right, Casey, take it away. You apologize. You're like, I'm sorry.

Sorry, it's Hansa. Yo, look at the Casey's graphic. Wow. It looks nothing like them. Nah, that's elite. The mustache is pretty good. Yeah, I like the hair. Wow.

That's, man, thank you. Appreciate that. The ears looked very normal. What's up with that? Yeah, come on. I've earned these ears, damn it. All right. So, okay, so the premise, I'm thinking, so when he says scariest fighters, so my mind, I'm thinking, I'm sleeping.

I get, you know, these people come into my house. They tie me up. They throw me in a sack. Throw me a back of a van. And I'll wake up in a trailer. you know, randomly. Now, it's street beefs, bro. You're in the backyard.

Yeah, in backyard. And so this person just pops up in front of me. So that's my premise. Yeah. Number five, this one's it. Ryan Hall. So what? Jesus Christ.

Sorry, what? 145 pound Ryan Hall. To me, that is a skit. You wake up, but you don't, you know you're in a room of a dangerous person, and this is the person they put you with. put you with and he's just standing there like right it's almost like in the movie if they show the guy who's the least

intimidating and you're like yeah I'm good and then they and then they know how to do work all right this is insane start to the list Ryan Hall yeah right because he would do the most permanent damage like he will break my knees and ankles my elbows so

quickly I do I do guarantee you Francis and Gano with no referees to stop him might be able to do just a touch more damage I don't know Hey, man, I've been on the match of these guys. Not nothing in particular, but like big dudes and like, small dangerous dudes.

I knew this would come. Ryan Hall scares the crap enemy. This is the expertise that we get. You don't want to see Ryan Hall across from you. I got to go. Street beefs, Ryan Hall? Sweet beefs. Sweat in it.

Number four, Prime King of Lasquez. Oh, hell yeah. That's just just that's just a scary, scary man. And, yeah, just, and I couldn't run away because this is in this card. It's the sea level, Kenny Velasquez. So, yeah, altitude, you know, you might have a shot.

Altitude, yeah, might have a shot. Okay. Number three, Prime Chris Cyborg. Oh, yeah. Yeah, shut out. Oh, yeah. Chris. Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

Number two, Prime, Fador. Oh, for sure. 30 and one, straight from Pride. felt unbeatable Fador and Melanico and also just like the demeanor the like lack of

it's a demeanor it's a demeanor lack of emotion like yeah like he will yeah he was just yeah he's a cyborg

cyborg and I kind of go back to my history in the sport I got Fader Fado was obviously awesome and everything

but one time when he actually actually was right before he lost to Verdume when he fought in a strike force my wife

to go Esther was shooting photos for strike force so i was in the i was doing i was helping out for a photo shoot and so every once a while you know so they goes okay um fader can you turn to the side and act like you're looking at your opponent so a lot of times i'm the person to kind of so i go in the side so they have an eye line and i i did a stare down to fadour and it was just like i just my soul just fell into an abyss it was like him just looking at me it was just and like within like half a second i was like oh crap because he didn't like he just like he had i think a couple of fighters have said like he just looks

like he has no soul when he stares at you and so that that that would i just always just scared the crap out of me pador and my number one prime vanderlea silver just standing here looking at me like this across the cage that's it yeah vanderlay is probably like an answer for a lot of people, the standing across from the cage, but also the famous, and we did best face-offs one time. Vanderle, Mirko is one of the all-time, like, greatest face-offs of all-time, one of the scariest dudes just to see. And then, like, the fighting style to match it, Van derley is a great pick. Great list, although I will say, I don't think the, the Ryan Halls, and if you know, you know, situation. Honestly, I thought we were going to get like a Cron Gracie at number one.

son of that one but pro grace it kind of looks apart a little bit you know yeah six pack but like it's the guys that it's those guys

that those guys that don't look like they look like they fix your cell phone in the ball you know those guys are they I'm just saying the Corey Sandhagans of the world

yeah and that's why Corey is like one of my favorite fighters because like he's unassuming the guys that don't look good coming off the bus yeah

those are my favorite yeah all right mine are going to look a little better coming off the bus I'm going to be honest, but we did have some overlap. We did have some overlap. I think I'm next, right?

It's your last? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Number five for me, I share this one with Casey. In her prime, and I would argue like she's still pretty damn good right now. My female goat of MMA, Chris Cyborg, just like intimidation for days. Like if you're across from her, you have to not only face her with the intensity, with the physical gifts that she has, but just the knowledge that her. sole focus is to come across the cage and destroy you and she has done it to

many, many, many opponents. Chris Cyborg, intimidation for days just, when it comes to women, I know, look, you know, everybody likes to throw the Amanda Nunes beat her thing around. That's fine. I still have Chris Cyborg as my goat. Shout to Bellator 300, by the way.

Shout to Bellator 300 against Katzangano. But Cyborg is the most intimidating woman I've seen when it comes to the fight game. Number four for me, Rampage Jackson He's a little more known now for the kick and the interviews of Ariel that go viral every once in a while

that KC shot back then when they were happening But this is like UFC era If you even go back further to Pride era The mouthpiece, the chain, the menacing snarl, The Howl, every bit of Rampage Jackson And also the muscles, the physicality, the way he fought every bit of Rampage Jackson screamed scary screamed intimidating

that was not a guy you wanted to see across from you but there are three that I have above there are three that I have above Rampage and if it only goes up from Rampage you know it's got to be intimidating number three this is a more contemporary one I'm surprised nobody said him yet but shout out to Poetan Alex Pereira when you're looking across the cage

and you see that face that's a bad sign for you that's not the face you want to see when they put you in the bag Casey and then they wake you up at street beef and you're standing across from this guy. Michael Myers, no emotion. He took what Fador did to a completely different level. He doesn't speak English and is just staring you down for as long as you're willing to engage.

And then when the bell rings, it's time to go night, night. Alex Pereira is a scary son of a bitch. Number two, another one I share with Casey. It was his number one. And it was hard to edge out this man, Vanderlae Silva, in his prime. when this was standing across the ring from you rolling those hands that look of absolute menace in his eyes

it was hard to imagine people withstanding that Rampage Jackson himself fell victim to Vanderle on several occasions but yeah man Vanderlea Silva in his prime was a scary S-O-B only to be taught by one man and it had to be there was only one person

as soon as we talked about this list it had to be number one and that's the bad guy himself the American gangster jail Simon. You do not. You do not want to be standing across on this. One-on-one, two-on-one, five-on-one. It does not matter. You're going to need 911. So much so, listen to the man himself. When you come from where he came from, you know that this is the scariest dude on the planet. Let's listen to Chal Sondon himself. Tell you about his upbringing. I don't know that I'm a self-proclaimed

gangster. I'm from the mean streets of Westland, Oregon. And I've, seeing things and been through things that somebody like you and your little pearly loft couldn't even relate to. And if you're asking me to share stories with you that are frankly none of your business, maybe I'll give you a couple and maybe you'll take the little smug look off your face. But I can date back to when I was 11 years old. I'm mind of my own business and I'm in a park. This guy, stranger to me. Takes a piece of gum out of his pocket.

He puts his mouth, and he just throws the wrapper on the ground. He publicly litters. He just publicly litters. And I saw that. I had to see these things at a young age. Sure, somebody came along, somebody picked it up, somebody threw it in the trash can. But for the few moments where that sat on the ground

and the law was violated right here in my neighborhood, what about the time I'm on the sidewalk and I watch a guy cross the street and he's not even within the lines? He's publicly jaywalking. There was a police officer standing right there. He didn't do anything. He didn't do anything. We have chaos.

We had anarchy at times in West Lynn. You know, you look at me. There was years where my father didn't even make a hundred grand, or barely made a hundred grand. And sure, we had him made, but she only came twice a week. What do you think happened the other five days? You think those dishes washed themselves? You think those clothes got themselves in the hamper?

My neighbors were twins. They got a Mercedes for their birthday, but just one. They had to share that car. They had to share that car. Who gets to drive today? I had to see these things. You asked me about being a gangster. You think I'm scared to go to Brazil.

You haven't seen the things I've seen. You haven't been down that way. You haven't been to the mean street. of Westland, Oregon. I get chills thinking about what this man had to go through going up. When you stand across the cage from the man who's seen the things that he's seen,

I don't even want to think about that. All-time clip. All-time clip. Undisputed. Undeputed. Some years my dad didn't make 100K, or barely made 100K. All-time clip. What a freaking clip. Shout out to the Wesleyan gangster.

Mr. Chilinan. All right, that leads it to my five. A few new ones are going to be on this list that you guys did not call out. Number five, maybe not in the octagon itself, but the look, the getting off the bus, the sheer physique of this man. Number five, Brock Lesnar.

Oh, yeah. The tattoo, the hulking size, six three, almost 300 pounds. Comes out with the team death clutch shirt, college national champ. I mean, look at the tattoo on the abs. I do not want to get mixed up with this man. Plus, like, you guys talk about Fyodor,

The demeanor of Brock Lesnar is like, I don't give a fuck about you and I'm going to kill you. It's just as easy as that. That's how this one is going to go. Number five, Brock Lesnar. Number four, it's a man that was only a man for a certain period of time. Before he was Alice there afterwards, he was Overeem. Before a brief window, he was Uberim.

He was taking place in K-1, Strike Force, Dream as Casey. mentioned earlier and the UFC he's fighting guys like Tyrone Spong Bader Harrii Gokan Saki Brock Lesnar Fabrice Overdoom, Todd Duffy and he's looking like this he's looking like this he's finishing almost everyone that he fights as well

I don't want to get mixed up with this man Brock Lesnar fell to this man shout out to Uber Ream one of the craziest physiques we will ever see 100% horse meat 100% horse meat and like by the time at the end of his career he was still jacked but like he looks

like flabby compared to uberin just because it was just that crazy number three never lost only lost comes by way of sheer destruction with the 12 to 6 elbows 16 title fight wins 18 wins by finish plus at the end of the day i don't just i don't trust this man one bit i don't want to be anywhere locked inside an octagon with this guy it's johnny bones jones i want nothing to do with this guy the crouch you know you're in trouble when you see this guy Don't trust them. Leave guys looking like this. The Machita Loan Time Legends looking like this.

What are you going to do to me? I don't want to know. Just that there's something about that grin, the bad guy trying to play the part of a good guy. John Jones, don't trust him. Terrified of him. My number three. Number two, you had it on your list, Rick.

The look, the power, the chance start up. He's making his walk to the octagon. You get the bow and arrow. Number two, Alex Pereira. Just the war paint. Imagine looking across from this dude less than 24 hours before you go to war with them. And you're like, this guy actually wants to kill me.

Like Magamette on Goliath, this guy looking at you and being like, I ain't going back to the tire shop. I ain't going back to where I was. Yeah, I'm not going to feel too good about it. Alex Pereira, that one hit or quitter, when you can make a guy look like this, an elite level, multi-time champion look like this, I want no part of it, man. There's just something terrifying about the idea of like, if this guy catches me, I'm waking up on the way to the ER and I'm not going to know what happened. That's right. And I'm going to get dragged out. I'm going to be walking out like,

oh, at least he's on his feet. Two weeks later, you're going to interview me and be like, I don't remember any of that shit. I don't remember walking out of the office. He caught me and he caught me bad. Hope mom had to watch it. Girlfriend had to watch it. There's something extra terrifying about that idea, which leads me to number one. One hitter, quitter, power.

It rarely comes in this form. 11 of his 12 UFC wins come by way of finish 10 by knockout 8 in under two minutes. Eight of those. It took him less than 120 seconds to get it done. unquestionable, life-changing power. It's Mr. Francis and Ghani. It is the predator. I went through his Getty images.

Look at these pictures. Look at these pictures that he's doing to high-level UFC athletes. What the fuck is that? He has like a photo reel of him walking away from unconscious bodies, where it's just him just like, oh, yep, this is Francis Ngano walking away from a man that he just killed, that he actually might have just killed. Look at what he did, the Alistair over. This looks like one of those like clickbait YouTube thumbnails

where it's like, Times guys died in the octagon. And it's like, this is the picture. Look at the physique. The physique is similar to Uberiem. But this is just what he was, every single fight. I feel like the last fight against Cyril Gahn, you know, him having to go to the wrestling without the two knees. And then, you know, go on to boxing and the people.

TFL and everything like that. People have kind of forgotten, look, this is the heavyweight goat that he's doing this too. Look at this picture, man. If there's ever a picture of me like this on the internet, I need it scrub. I need the whole history of the internet.

Scrub the way. This guy made victims out of his opponents. Absolutely insane. Francis Inganu. My God. My God. If I go into the octagon with this guy, there is not a question of

if I'm getting knocked out is how many seconds he takes, not minutes, how many seconds it takes for this guy to separate me from my consciousness in a brutal, horrifying, make-my-mother cry fashion, Francis and got it. I'm not even trying to take like a padded punch from him. Yeah, no, I mean, Eric Nixick has talked about like even working pads of Francis is a painful experience. Six-four, physique off the charts, the sand mines in Cameroon to the, like, the strength

you get from that alone, the streets of Paris, all the way to the UFC Octagon. It's an incredible pick. You mentioned the Sandmines. Has he ever seen somebody jaywalking in West Lynn, though? That's true. I would just ask that. It's a good point by you. I would just ask that. Also, like, I know the AJ knockout, everything like that. I think maybe that was just a little bit above his depths.

The dude also has an insane chin. Yeah. Like he is eating some massive shots across his career. Nothing I'm doing to this guy is going to hurt him. He's just going to, he's going to Jerzino Rosenstrike me, where he's just like, I don't give a fuck what's coming back at me. Waiting across. What's coming at him is 10 times worse.

Yes. And he's going to sleep. So Francisigano was my number one. This was a very fun project to go through. I mean, there's been some scary dudes to step inside the ropes, to step inside the cage in the history of mixed martial arts. I'm just happy some gangsters like Ensign and Ryan Hall got shoutouts. I like that.

And it came from E. Casey Liding and it came from mysterious Frank. Casey, thank you so much for joining us, man. very excited for the future of uncrowned films and the documentaries that we are going to put out. There's already two in the chamber. I'm excited to see them hit the airwaves, and I'm excited to see where we go from here, brother. Thanks so much for joining us, man. All right, I'm going to go to the training now. Oh, I, Casey. Hopefully you don't come across a Ryan Hall while you're there. No, no, I'm not that crazy. Thank you. All right, peace, Casey. All right, that was E. Casey Leight, and that was our pound-for-pound list. We're going to take a very quick break. We'll be back

in two short minutes. Voicemails. Don't go anywhere. All right, how about that? You get us back early. I said two minutes. It ended up only being one and we're already back. I am just, Frank, yeah, I have to say I'm just struggling with the earpiece. Our plans seem so ironclad. And yeah, the beard is fully falling off. We're just going to have to ride no beard rest of the show.

Can you still hear? Yeah, I can still hear. I got the earpiece in now. Gandalf does not look near as cool without the beard. We got any voicemails, though, Frankie. You certainly do. Voice mail. Let's let a rip, brother.

How about Casey? We had Casey on. Shout out the Casey, man. Legend. Legend of the game. Ahoy, hoi. You a tree house a hoary guy? I am. So I was thinking, I always get a kick out of every time you guys bring up Lord of the Rings now. Ever since when I asked that question, I guess months ago, right?

I still can't get over Rick, and you know what? I don't think I'll ever look at him the same. You shouldn't. But so I got one for you. Kind of a similar idea. But this one, given the season, it's horror movies. horror franchises. So I've got three of them here, and I want you guys to pick one where you're just going

to remove everything about it from history, everything is attached to, same as before. So we've got Friday the 13th with Jason Voorhees, Nightmare on Elm Street with Freddie, and we've got Halloween with Michael Myers. Let's see what you guys think. Nightmare, Freddy, Auto, easy. I'm going to go Probably Halloween with Michael Myers The iconic theme

Plus it just like It gives me a time to watch it Like I'm always going to watch it around Halloween Obviously given by the title I'm going Michael Myers Andy Andy what do we think Freddy

Good Good Speaking of horror movies And Andy I haven't talked to you about this I think I know you're a fan Watch the first Saul for the first time meather a few days ago. Way better than I was anticipating.

I thought it was going to be like gore porn. There was a great storyline. Twist and turns wasn't even as like gross and nasty as I thought I'm looking forward to watching too. Shout out to Saul. Okay. Yes. You are going to get to the gore porn though.

They do, they do very quickly. become just about the kills I actually don't have an issue with needles. Number two though, I mean number one, good film. No, it's a good film. I enjoyed a nice hour 40. It was great. Harry Elways. It was great. Shout out to it.

But Freddie. Freddy rules. What's up, y'all? You didn't even mention child's play. What's up, bro? I have one question for each of you guys. I guess it's the same question. What's your guys? his favorite individual round of MNA ever fought man

yeah not favorite fight yeah but your favorite individual round of MMA what fight was it from I will actually I will go with Matt Schnell sumaders you yeah that was a sick UFC Long Island round two because I was in person for it

and I had the under and it was just an absolute back and forth bloody banger and it ended in a finish in the round it was all the time you arena was on tilt everyone was going crazy uh that is like that was peak for me yeah that's a great one that and uh sorry to interrupt you that and also i'manda serrano katie taylor one round five msg everyone is just full throat going absolutely mad they probably threw like 200 punches in that round alone uh shout out to them those are my two favorite rounds i feel like

it's got to be in person not in person for me but my favorite daily ds like just Oh, shout out, shout out. Top, cream of the crop, top tier. Daily Diaz, if they haven't seen. Oh, E. Casey Leiden, in the chat, Paul Daily Nick Diaz. Yeah, it's the cream of the crop. Dover McKinney, shout out. UFC, Yeri 320, it's definitely up there.

I don't know. Round three. It was kind of just like, oh, yeah, that was kind of cool. Whatever. That was a decent round. Whatever. Yeah, don't get excited about it. Yeah, bro.

Whatever. It's all good. Wait until the next year he's fighting. It's just as crazy. It's all good. We still love you. I'm over it. We still love you. Shout to Schmeagle.

What up, boys in the bag? This is Jesse from Pittsburgh. What's up, Jesse? Currently, Ash, North Carolina. Just wanted to say, the show is the shit. It is such a good hang. But I wanted to call in because I heard you guys say that you got shit about the Burroughs, time-for-pound rankings. Mad shit.

I've got to say, fuck that. Agreed. The pound-per-pound rankings is such a good segment. And the fact, anyone who was talking shit on that, I challenge them to come up with something relevant and interesting to do a pound-for-pound list each week. You guys do an awesome job with that. Yeah, great segment. Also, got a shout out Frankie for having the highlight of pound-for-pound when it was favorite greens.

And he said the king of all greens, and then it was a roogola. That was amazing. I'm really allowed to have two of pizza, low-key, a banger, and, yeah, that was just pure gold. But yeah, you all the shit, keep it up, great hang, love the show, pound for pounds, awesome, keep doing it. It's okay that it's not one million percent, the best, most relevant, perfect thing ever. Keep it up. I want to some bail. Oh.

Slight change to my pound-for-pound boroughs. Queens is now higher. I was walking around Ridgewood the other day, and I was like, damn, this is actually a really good hang. So just had to break that for you guys. Shout out. You just got to go. You just got to go to Queens. Thank you very much for the kind words.

We do appreciate it. I think we've eclipsed 50 episodes at this point now. We have done over 50 episodes. We started pound for pound from week one, I believe, or maybe week two. So we've done over 50 pound for pound less. You mentioned pound for pound greens? That was all time dumb. The key with the pound-for-pound list is either to make them very MM-A-centric or make them very, very dumb.

Those are pretty much the only two ways that they go. Thank you very much. We appreciate the call. Seeing some D-1 glazers in the chat. It's okay, man. It's okay to show love. You don't always got to be a hater. I told Frankie earlier I loved them.

Nobody was there, though. There it is. Shout out to it, man. Appreciate the call, brother. I tell you told me that in confidence. What's good. Boys, it's your boy, Bodkins. I'm happy Thursday,

you know. Boys, last week we saw Shohei Otani hit three home runs, 10 strikeouts, in what is claimed to be maybe the greatest professional game ever. At least in baseball, it's hard to top it in any other sport. But I'm going to ask you, boys,

what would be the equivalent to that in MMA? Y'all have a great weekend, have a best Thursday. Hopefully all the best cash, Connor. Frankie, Shout out. See y'all boys later. Have the best weekend of your life. Bodkins out. Bodkins, you're the absolute man.

It's kind of tough because it's such a special thing for Shohei to pitch and also hit so well at such a high level. I guess it would just be like you're on fire offensively and defensively. Yeah, I guess it's like... I feel like a 10-7 and then a finish in the next round. You know what's like... I guess my mind goes to Anderson Silva against Forrest Griffin. where he's bobbing and weaving and defensively at such a level that it's almost like embarrassing. It's not just like I'm dodging, like I'm not just safe.

I'm embarrassing you with what I'm doing and then knocking him out. That's probably like the most like schooled or sun to anybody's ever been. So maybe it's that one. But it is impossible to kind of like have an equivalent of what Shoah did from the different phases of the game. Someone says Holloway versus Cater when he land like 400 something significant strikes. Like, that would be just like the home runs. That's just the home runs. Yeah, like Volk versus like the 5042 against, I mean, not Volka, Ilya, the 5042 against

Josh Emmett. Yeah, it's, it's something where like it can't just be a first round knockout. It's got to be like you put on this insanely complete, just like shouldn't even have been in the octagon together type performance. Boys, boys, boys, what's up, boys? What's up, Long Island? Just curious. If you had to sit in between two commentators and commentate a UFC fight,

any mixed martial arts commentators, two of them, who would they be? Why? Question for GC in New York, Rick, but if anybody else wants to answer, please do. Love you guys. Thank you for the content. Hey, love you too, man. I would go Felder. I got a soft spot for Felder.

Now, are you picking based on what you think would be a good booth? or are you picking like, I'm going to have a good time? A little bit of both. Okay. I think I'll still have a good time with Felder. No, I wasn't saying that Felder's not. I'm just asking where your motivation, like what your mindset is. I guess I would be, because I don't, I haven't fought before.

I guess I would be play by play. Give me, maybe give me, maybe, maybe. Maybe give me Rogan in there as well. Me, Rogan and Felder. Me, Rogan and D.C.? You, Rogan in D.C. Me, Rogan and D.C., so I'm just replacing John Anick. You have some laughs, you have some chuckles.

Me. Jason Anick? And Ben the Bain Davis? Oh, shit, that's actually a good shout. Shout out to Ben the Bain. Yeah, I'm going, I think I'll go Felder and Rogan just for the hell of it. God, now you made me think, do I might have to include Ben the Bain. I feel like that'd be the most fun.

If I'm keeping at UFC, I'm going to do, Rogan and Goldie. I want to be the third man in the boot for the goat era. Have me speaking in

English not knowing what the fuck is going on and I'm with the two Portuguese guys that had the call of Charles Olver against

Justin Gates you were like Charlie give me that one and I'm just sitting there just like hell yeah guys this is a good one

that easiest night of work of your life you just shake your head say shit yeah I just have to look there confused

Yo, it's Hanashi MMA. Oh, Hanashir legend. And I just want to say, whoever shot that Oscar de la Jolla special or interview. We had them earlier. You guys had that looked amazing. The way the camera zoomed in, but it's shake, at the same time it looked realistic. I don't know if I was watching a movie or an interview. Whoever did that.

E. Casey Lydden. Deserves a raise. That was beautiful. It looked like the camera angles from the snobacco. matching it, seeing how the camera would move and stuff. It was perfect. Shout out. Chef's kiss.

I don't even care about boxing or Oscar de la Oia, but I watched the whole thing. Hell yeah. It was amazing to look at it. And it got me intrigued in the interview. Well done, guys. Big fan. Ultimate compliment. That was he Casey Leiden, who was on the show earlier.

And the goat, Esther Lynn. I loved the camera shakes. A couple people talking about the camera shakes, not in heavy favor of them. I liked the camera shakes. I thought it was great. I thought it looked fantastic. Yo, boys in the back. Jammer.

It's a jammer. What's up, Jim? My brother's weekend, my brother's wedding is this weekend on Saturday, so I want to have an update on that speech until next week. But I still have a question this week. Okay. And it's actually for Andy. So Andy, if you're there today, my question is, recently started working in a Mexico restaurant. And I've been.

practicing speaking Spanish for like the past two years or so on Duolingo. I really can't speak much Spanish, but I can speak basic enough Spanish to be able to communicate with my co-workers in the kitchen. So my question for you is, is it rude for me to try to speak Spanish with them or do you think that they appreciate? I mean, obviously you're not like this folks person for all Hispanic people, but I was just wondering, I was Spanish-speaking person, do you find it annoying when people try to speak Spanish to you? You know, for example, maybe when Connor tries to speak some Spanish, I don't know if he ever does that, I know he's been learning stuff on Duolingo, but anyway, uh, yeah, I just wanted to know, is it rude?

Do I sound like an asshole for trying to talk to them in Spanish? I'm really not trying to be, but I, yeah, I'm just interested in your perspective on the whole thing. But anyways, love the show. Jesus, guys. Yeah. Hey. I studied much, but I'm I study a lot, but I only know a little.

But I can only speak a little. Yeah. find like a new outlet i've found some other outlets language transfer the app uh is fantastic it's like a 90 lesson free podcast and it does so much better than duo lingo i need to find my next outlet like duolingo a gets kind of old also that damn bird being like study study study and it's just like my cat ate a piano and it's like what am i ever going to use this i need yeah i need a new out guys i'm like four hundred days don't disrespect the duo i need like a new it's too gamified i need like a I need, like, can I watch, like, a season of Yu-Gi-O in Spanish, and, like, that's how I can learn?

I always hear Spanish speakers. What about, like, a Spanish soap opera? Yeah, like, I always hear of Spanish speakers being, like, my mom just watch the days of our lives every day, and now she's fluent in English. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. They shout out.

The dramatic scenes. I love the Spanish-language soap operas. All right. Thanks for. All right. There's this guy from Nebraska. Brett. We're always shouting out Nebraska football players.

Yeah, Brett, shout out. Who cares about Nebraska football? Ohio State runs the big tent. Shout out bucks. Shout out Pete Warner. Shout out to the goat. Braxton Miller. Anyway, you've got to go back to the borough conversation.

Yes. No hate on the location chosen. New York City is the greatest city in the world. But Queens being ranked last is criminal. Agreed. How is it worse in the Bronx? And don't even get me started on Staten Island. Yep.

How is Staten Island even... Do you have a better chance of finding Narnia than you have getting to Staten Island? He's not wrong. What do you mean? There's a ferry that goes around the clock. Giant signs, Staten Island. If I was on a plane and I heard G.C.'s voice as the captain of that plane, I'd probably just go right to sleep just right there.

I'd be comfortable, you know, an unbelievable voice. Some G.C. voice, I'd do. If we had radio anymore. Anyway, chat out, Buckeyes. Your 2026 repeat national champions. Won't repeat because George is going to win the national championship this year. I very much appreciate the kind words on the voice. You know, growing up, ever since I was young, I was told I have a voice made for radio.

Very nice voice. uh but lately especially on the watch parties people are like with this guy shut up i fucking hate his voice i'm like wow everything i've been told my whole life has uh been a lie can i can i ask this respectfully yeah all do respect please if they're seeing you have a great voice does that mean the face is not ready for tv listen uh ever since i shaved my head i've i've kind of just accepted. I'm an ugly soul in this world. And there's all my pretty privilege has gone out the window. I'll be walking along the street. Women don't even acknowledge my existence. I just float through through this thing we called life at this point. So yeah. I have a confession. Stop. As I was watching

you there, I feel like this look is a good look. You look like what cavil in the witcher, like the long white hair? It's tough. It's tough, as they said. No, it's not tough. This is a good look. I It's tough. Yeah, maybe you just start rocking a wig, a toupee. Maybe the two-pay is the answer. I, for one, think you look better with no hair. Thanks, Frank. I was going through my phone the other day.

I saw these old pictures of you with hair, and I'm like, hmm, this isn't Connor. Well, the women don't seem to agree, so. Boys in the back. It's chunk from South Carolina. What's up, junk? Did we just forget that New York Rick has gout? Yeah, we did.

We did. That's the key. We did move on. Hey, quick, right off rip. Pound for pound, top five foot afflictions. I'm going to go turf toe. Yep. Planter fasciitis.

Planner facetis. Pachiatis, but yeah. Stubtoe. Stubtoe is bad. Crow's feet. All right, that's mine. Stumble right at the end. We'll stumble right.

Maybe like a, I mean, like, affliction, so I guess like not a real injury, but like, bro, tearing an ACL, or I mean, tearing an Achilles, sounds like hell. Yeah. Sounds like hell. Surgery, long recovery. I've kind of stopped hooping. I just go and shoot hoops because I know more. You're scared of the jump. I know more than one person that has ripped their Achilles playing basketball at R.

Rec ball. Reck ball. Pointless. Pick up basketball. They're out there completely thinking they're completely. healthy and then they like shove off hard and killies gone surgery boot wheelchair crutches i haven't played in a while and you just scared me out of playing i i shoot hoops let's go play horse let's just let's just let's just let's go play horse man i'm an old man at this point wow yeah now

i'm scared to go back uh to the to the hoops in the summer uh that's unfortunate because i really like basketball also crow's feet are uh run the eyes eyebrows man i'm gonna do with Yeah, yeah, everyone loves telling me I have those, man. What's going on right now? Dark Connor. Ingrown toenel? Oh, yeah, ingrown toenails are a rough one. Bunyons?

I don't know. Do you have to the bunions? I feel like bunions are not that bad, though. Is that like a food? You can live... No, that's an onion, Frank. Oh, my bet. Common mistake.

Rolling the ankle. Ludovic Klein getting the ankle broken. This is a real pipe, by the way. contemplating. PRJ. A little PRJ? Mm-hmm. Wow, nice.

I was just able to watch the BKFC doc. Oh, thank you for watching. It's amazing. Really cool. I think that's like a fan stream to see all the behind-the-scenes stuff. It's really awesome to see a different side of the fighters. You know, we have a certain view. on the show and of Ariel and everything like that to see like a different side of the personality

and just kind of almost caught off guard or like improv type of setting is really cool to see I've been to two VKFC events myself for the amazing show here in Albuquerque um this is Cruz from Albuquerque um well from L.A. Go Dodgers sorry Ariel I don't know if I'll get in for this Thursday. So you guys are starting here a little bit. Guys are in trouble. We'll see how this sounds next week. Hopefully, Dodgers do it again.

Yeah, we'll almost away. And back to Toronto. Very much appreciate you watching the dock. Shout out to Casey. Shout out to Ariel. They did an unbelievable job there. Frankie did some heavy lifting. Heavy lifting on the audio.

Behind my shoulder is a terrifying. scene. We got a, Dementor behind you? We got a, we got a Halloween. That's the wrong movie, Frank. Yeah, we got a Halloween setup, man. Crazy. Shout out, thanks for the call. Thanks for that. What's up, boys. What's up, bro? I'm probably too late for this week, but this message is Evergreen, so whatever. Perfect. Will you please get Ariel to stop saying fatty, boom, batty, and PRB and PRJ, wacky, whatever the fuck else he uses?

Yes. Weed. Just say weed, man. Pot, if you have to. Cush. Kill. Broccoli! Mary Jane?

Have you ever called it, Mary Jane? I really appreciate it. The green. No, we're never going to stop. What did you all call it back in, like, college in high school? Kill. Weird. You called it Kill?

That was the name for one. K.B. What's Keeby? Kindbud? Let's get Casey back on. Here he knows. He knows. I just called it weird.

Guess you're weird. I guess you these are all Texas terms then, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go pick up a, I would pretty much. You'd do it by the measurement? I didn't pick up anything ever, I mean. Yeah, it was by the measurement. Yeah, gram, eighth. Yeah.

Quarter pound, QP, a zip, an OZ, kilo. Kilo. Delivery. Where do you want me to drop it off? Vacuum. A H.C. Bought it for A to Graham. I'm going to flip it for 20 to the high schoolers.

Did you guys ever play? Drug Wars on your Oh yeah That's why I learned That stuff That's where you learned it Wait where did we play that Was it on the T-I-82 calculator

Who was on the calculator? Oh my god It's the best Wow people call it flower Dank Flour I heard Swag

Nah bud is I see butt in there I used to say butt a lot Hydro Pick up a gram GZ You don't go Can't be walking around

Jolato Hey he's smoking on that gelato That's Gandalf Got the gelato in the pipe Shout out Skunk Skunk I've heard Someone said lock GCL

They tried to And they failed Smoked them out Is that what y'all said Did you all say smoke me up or smoke me out Smoke me out? Yeah it did smoke me out It was always

Give me a beer tonight I smoked you out earlier Exactly Wait what is that I've never heard that phrase That's like give me some No no that means I have trees I'm about to smoke

Oh okay You can hop in on it Got it got it Just kidding I've never I mean this is what I heard You just sold it You never smoked

You never smoked Riefer What is this You born in 1972 So my dad Straighted that stuff Did I find you with the reefer PRJS

This is Chris From Glasgow Scotland Fuck great accent Shout out Shout out Shout to Louis Southern This is the guy I'm here in New York

From my wife On our honeymoon Have he said sir I should finally Leave the lads of voice mails Since I'm in town Legend. And then there we are today, strolling through Brooklyn, bump into all the toys, filming some content.

We're great to meet y'all. Thanks for taking some time out to chat. They've listened to the show for years now. The watch parties. It'll be through many 3 a.m. early starts for the main cards. Shout to the whole crew, Frank, audio Jordan, Andy. Cheers, lads. Cheers. Shout to Chris. We were filming a

video. A big video that you will see in two weeks from today. And Chris happened to come across us on his honeymoon with his wife. Was incredibly nice. Said what's up. We all took a flick together. It was fantastic. It was awesome. It was hilarious that we ran into him. What timing it was. We can tell more about that story later, but it was an all-time moment. Chris, shout out to his wife.

Hope you guys enjoyed your stay in New York City. My favorite thing was him recognizing Frank first. So good. So good. So good. Some more rolling in here, Ganges. Oh, yeah. Taking a hit of the blinker.

The blinker. What did you guys call what would fall in, the dust that would fall into the bottom of the grinder? We didn't have grinders. Yeah, we didn't use grinders. Oh, yeah, we're picking stems out. No, not even picking them out. We just smoke them. Oh, you were smoking stem?

Yeah. Broke boys over here. This shit was horrible when I was a kid. You got to smoke the stems. That's where most of it is. We had the Kiefer Sutherland going on. We had dog shit nuggets that took you forever to get high. And now I can smell it and going through a co-op.

There's an age that you just crossed a threshold when smoking weed goes from laughing with your boys being like, to like, why did I say that? Yeah. I passed that a long time ago. Chief Keefe, shout out. Yeah, we didn't have no grinders. Shout out, man.

Love Sosa. Yo, what's up, guys? This is Mark here. Just calling to go over the DQ versus point deduction for fouls. I think I completely disagree with Ariel. There's no way you can immediately go to a DQ if someone's fouled. I give what you mean. You're comparing to other sports.

People get penalized. Only if it doesn't continue, to be fair to Ariel. Give a warning in the back. And once you commit the foul, you lose a point. But remember this. I mean, I think this would be. a similar bad situation where in the UFC of a fighter misses weight and the opponent who made weight doesn't take the fight, the opponent who made the weight kind of gets looked down on by

the UFC going forward like they didn't want to take the fight. Even Santos even said so in a recent interview where she felt like she had to take the fight or receive repercussions from the UFC. Furthermore, I feel like you've seen instances where fouled fighters ask if I can't continue, do I win? And now the ref or the judge or whoever is or the doctor who is in there ignores that because they're not supposed to say. But I believe this happened in the Diego Sanchez-Nishel Pereira fight, where Diego got illegally fouled, and then he asked if he could basically get out of the fight.

Now, whether or not he could continue is, you know, up for discussion. But I think some fighters on the show and win model might actually take a way out in order to double their pay. And to be honest, in a show-win model, I wouldn't necessarily blame them. the UFC probably wouldn't be too happy on that, even though they were the fighter that got fouled, not the one that committed the foul. But either way, shout out, guys.

Your show is awesome. You guys are like family. Love you listening every day. Every day. Shout out. G.C. Rick. Frank. Andy, Sandy, Randy, and Mandy, and Mandy.

And producer, PTO, Jordan. And you're probably out on PTO again. That's just what you do, bud. He actually is not here, guys. Bye. Shout out. Appreciate the call. Good insight as well.

God, it's getting dark outside It's only 248 p.m. Yeah. It's the apocalypse. We missed it. I almost feel like I feel like phrasing it as looking for a way out

when you're talking about like oh yeah, potential of the wind show model, blah, blah, like almost making a business decision. Yeah. I feel like looking for a way out is kind of saying like

the dude's scared and he doesn't want to continue whereas it's like, bro, I don't want to take this fight compromised. Why could, why would I do this when I, I could fight this guy perfectly healthy. Why would I do it with one eye or can't feel my balls like Kevin Holland a few weeks ago?

It's just like, I don't know, man, five minutes in an arena full of people. You've trained all this time. And then it comes down to five minutes and you've got to make this decision. You're weighing all these options. And it's just like, fuck, man, I don't know what to do. It's a position that I hope I never find myself in. But like, I just don't think it's as simple as like, oh, he just wanted to quit. It's just like, man, you're weighing a lot of options.

especially if you're Tom Aspinall like you're the champion of the world like if you continue and now you can't see out of your eye like you're you're fighting heavily compromised it's it is a hard hard decision to have to make you said it right it's a business decision right like your show money your win money are the things that you need to earn to make your living getting to the fight you're you get your show money but you don't get your win money if you don't continue and so there's there's things that they have to think about right Tom Aspinall has now not fought in nearly two years I don't think he took that decision lightly.

I don't think if he could have capably fought and thought that he was able to continue in the best way. I mean, we're hearing from Andy that he still wasn't fully having his vision back as recently as a day ago. I don't think Tom Aspinall is looking for a way out. I think it's just you have to do what's best for your career at all times. But this guy did raise a good point about like when fighters have an opponent miss weight and you don't take the fight, we do even see those guys

tending to be the ones that get the brunt of it, right? When Wonderboy doesn't take the fight and he's like, yo, you blew weight. Like, I'm not taking the fight. The fans are the ones who are coming after that guy as if he did something wrong. And we're seeing the same thing with these fouls. Like, what did Tom do wrong? Tom did nothing wrong. And yet the fans have kind of turned on him to a certain degree.

It's an odd thing. But you said it perfectly. Like, there's a lot to think about here. There's a lot to calculate. I think above all else, though, we all kind of agree that there needs to be penalties for these things. 1,000% and not just warnings

anymore. And the second that that foul happens and they stop, the clock is on. It's the rabbit meme that's popular

right now. It's just like, yo man, you got five minutes. There's millions of people watching at home and there's 20,000 people in this arena

and they all paid to come see you. You fight and what are you do? Choose, man. And it's a lot of pressure and it's a huge

decision to make one that you can't take lightly. This is your fucking career, man. This is your career. Might be your

title on the line. Yeah. And of force people want to dumb it down to he's a pussy he wanted a way out he's scared of him man it's it's there's a lot that goes into this man the dude's not fighting on the early

prelims on a 10-10 contract he saw that 10-7 round coming and he was gone gonzo yo what's up boys what's up for the long island yeah the long island ultimately

shout out shout out shout out shout out Shout out. Ultimately. Ultimately, ultimately. Shout out, shout out. Big shout out. Big ultimately. But ultimately, shout out. Love you, boys. You said it, not me, man. Ultimately, that was a great call. Shout out to you. Ultimately, shout out. What's funny is I find myself saying ultimately more now, but every time I say it, I catch myself. And I'm like, God damn it. Me too. Ultimately. Every time I say it. Ultimately, I recognize that I said it.

What's up, BITB? Hope you all having a great week. It's Zach out here from California. What's up to you guys? My question for this week, I just finished Ariel's interview with McKenzie Dern. I really liked it. I think that she provided a lot of insight on, you know, what it's like to be a fighter and the emotions and the journey they go through in this sport.

So my question for this week is, out of all the people that you guys have met and the people that Ariel has interviewed, who has given you the greatest insight, on really what it's like to be a fighter in this sport and the emotions and the trials and tribulations of what they go through. I would definitely say Dustin Porre is on that list for me, but I'm curious as to what you guys would say. Hope you're having a great week, man.

Shout out to all of you guys. See too. Man, I found Charles Jordane's interview this week to be pretty insightful. Dustin Poria is definitely up there, man. Just a raw, sheer, brutal honesty that Dustin Porier gives. in every interview is fantastic.

I think Al Jermaine Sterling is a solid interview. What you look for is the guys who, like, are vulnerable a little bit. Because so much of this is about, like, bravado and protecting the ego and trying to seem invincible. Dustin is a good example because he's a guy who comes in here is like, I'm just a man. I'm vulnerable. I don't know how much longer I have left. You know, I've been dying to be at the top, but I've fallen short. he's very self-reflective. He thinks about the game. He thinks about his life. He thinks about his career. He's probably the one for me as well, like this caller. Yeah.

Hunter McConnell. Andre Feeley's a bit like that. Yeah. All you hope is that people are their genuine selves. Exactly. Be yourself. Now, there's times to be the character, right? There's times to play that up. But when you see those moments of vulnerability and there's no better place to get it than this channel, Ariel, does the best interviews in the sport, the best interviews in the sport, the best interviews in. in sports, the best interviews in any interviews, and he gets that out of people. And I think that we've been fortunate to kind of see a lot of those types of moments, but my answer is probably Dustin too. You know who actually gives one, though, they're not in English, is Alex Pereira. Yeah. He is pretty just like, this is what happened. Like after he lost to Izzy, he's just like, yep, I got knocked out. After he lost to Mogamette, he was like, yep, I lost the fight, but I wasn't at full percent. I'm ready to rip the next one, and I'm going to knock this guy out. That's exactly

what he did. He's candidly had essentially every step of the way an interview in between each fight and he pretty much just shows his true self. Honestly, Izzy also is a great one. Great interviews as well.

Yeah, there's a lot, man. There's a lot. This is such a fascinating sport and it has such fascinating characters because the people that get to this point are usually forged through the fire. It's not like yeah, I grew up and I got put in a G when I was, you know, I was five years old. And then I join my high school wrestling team, and then I went to college for wrestling, and now I'm a

UFC champion. Of course, there are stories like that, but a lot of the times it's like, man, didn't have a pot to piss in, this, that, and the other happened. I dropped out of school when I was in eighth grade. This is the only option that I had. So yeah, it's fascinating when people really open up the curtain and let us see their true selves, whether it's through a win or through a loss. McKenzie's a great one too. Like this was sparked by listening to McKenzie. She's always been like that throughout the years. And even, you know, we saw it during fight week where she was talking about, like, if this was Zhang Wei Li, I don't know if I'd be, like, most people don't say that. Most people don't, in her position aren't like, I don't know if I could beat

Zhang Wei right now. I don't want to face Zhang Wei right now. Like, this is the opportunity ahead of me. Like, that's, that's the mentality that I think a lot of point people will be like, nah, it's weak. It's not what you're supposed to say and blah, blah, blah. And so she's a great example as well. There's so many characters like that in the sport. And boxing as well, I think, because a lot of great characters who've kind of been vulnerable like Tyson Fury has taken us along

on a journey of mental health that's like been up and down and so many twists and turns and there's so many but Dustin's probably my guy Dustin's my guy what's up boys from Nebraska

Oh he's back Welcome back Legend Shout out Eddie Royal Oh legend I just checking back in Yeah man we miss In a while, my high school team that I coach got left out of the playoffs on a high break in number six.

So obviously that was pretty tough when you pour everything into something and it doesn't quite work out. So my question is, what should I do with my time now that I'm not full-time, you know, making a difference trying to develop young men of character through the game of football? well. What should I do instead? Because, you know, gambling is not going to fix that hole. Yeah, definitely let's not do that. That is in my heart. So, thank you. Yeah, man, a hobby would be good. Let's definitely not turn to gambling or alcohol or smoking PRJs or anything like that. Yeah, some sort of hobby. PRJs might help, actually.

Maybe just switch to basketball. Just going to coaching basketball as well. Great shot on Eddie Royal, man. Like a nice, a nice, like 60, catch 800 yard like 5 to 6 touchdown receiver for like 10 years in the league shout out to Eddie Royal legend let's do another one

what's up boys in the back Chad calling from up in Toronto Canada shout out to Toronto shout out to Blue Jays yeah you got it brother the elder statement of the podcast wow so this week I'll want

Not even the old fuck Not even the oldest one on the podcast My question for Rick Having worked with Halwani for a decade When he gets super into a take Some may call it a bad take Such as the DQ For a foul

That one was very polarizing I feel Got heeded He's not alone on that A lot of people It's awkward Are there any continuation of these conversations? Do you tell him how Wani pull your head out of you know where? Does he needle you?

Or do you guys shut it down there and save it from that show? Appreciate it. You guys are the best. Get me through some long weeks. Keep doing your thing. Thank you. No, it doesn't linger. Like, there is a phrase we have around here on Crown, which is, Save It for the Show.

Yeah. If we start getting heated behind the scenes, we'll just throw the hands of them and be like, save it for the show. Save it for the show. no there's not a lot of like also like me disagreeing with gc or ariel disagreeing with me anybody disagreeing with anybody i don't think that really is like a thing where we feel like we need to continue that part of it unless it's like an ongoing conversation that comes up on the air but like i'm not that passionate about anything that i'm like it's never personal yeah it's not a personal thing it's it's truly never personal and we've been doing these discussions for years now

so we understand that we're going to disagree. We've gone full gray behind me. Gandalf the Gray is fully in town. We can barely see any of the building. Shout out. We will be back after this brief messages from our sponsors here at the boys in the back with the rest of your voicemails.

Don't go anyway. All right, welcome back. Just a couple more voicemails to get to. Let's knock them out. Thanks as always for calling. Yo, what's up, boys? This is Hunter from Arkansas. Shout out, Hunter.

I just want to say I really enjoy the show, but I've got a question for Rick. I was wondering, since, you know, you're like the movie guy. So me and my wife, we went and seen the movie Springsteen deliver me from nowhere over the weekends. And I thought it was a great movie. There were some people in there that thought it would be more of an upbeat, rocking movie. And it's not really that. It's more about one specific part of his life. But I was wondering if you've seen it and if you have an opinion on it.

on it so thanks let me know man really appreciate you guys i have not seen it yet but i think everybody on this staff is kind of like a movie person like most of us are especially how long up on the moot yeah love movies have not seen the springsteen one though i actually are you going to no i'm planning it i'm probably not going to i'm not a huge springsteen guy giving him a few tries but i just i don't know just he's just not so un-american um yeah i actually had to cancel my mc stubbs membership because i moved and now there's not one near me but i need to I need to find an alternative. I need to get back in the theater, man.

I need to see Nicole Kidman sitting down. That's AMC. Why we go see the silver screens. If you go anywhere else other than AMC, you ain't going to get it. It's exclusive. Unless I bring my own Nicole Kidman trailer to play. Just get it tattooed on your body. You can just look at it.

Yep. What's up, boys, in the back? What's up, bro? Shooter McGavin. I got two quick questions for you. Tell us. Number one, with some of the tensions, starting to smooth over between Guru and Helwani.

I'm curious. Do any of you guys consume any M&A YouTube content, like from Guru, Lucas Tracy, bedtime, The Weasel, et cetera? Then number two, I feel like I've been picking up what you guys have been putting down the people got to know. Are we finally getting the fight fees to Action Bronson collab for 322 Fight Week? Let me know. Peace.

We can't confirm or deny whether or not that that's true. We're just going to have to wait and see. Things are in the works. Things are happening behind the scenes. We'll see. Put up the pizzi. Do we have the pizzi? This guy mean?

If the, you know, if the white whale has been harpooned, if the white buffalo has been rodeoed. Lasude. We shall see. In terms of MMA YouTubers, that kind of seems to be the big three right now. I saw they did like a stream together. That's like the hot in the streets, the guru Lucas Tracy bedtime MMA trio. I had never seen bedtime MAA before.

I've seen some of his impressions and stuff, but like people are big on them. I'm not going to lie, because it's my job, I don't consume a ton of it. In your personal time. In my personal time outside of here, I don't consume a ton of it. there's a couple like betting shows I watch like lucrative MMA has been pretty big on posting YouTube videos lately. He's got some good

insights as well but yeah I mean like when it's when it's work like it's kind of hard to like go home and watch some of it I mean like Ariel always says like there's a lane for everybody yeah like they're killing it like they're all doing incredibly

incredibly well like I don't watch all the time but like now with how big they are like clips surface on online all the time I do have to give props to guru the bully Tom Aspinall impression that he does. He does like a perfect Tom Aspinall impression

and it's from the standpoint of Tom Aspinall being a bully. From being an asshole. Yeah, he's like walking around the PI and Neil Magny's like taking a dump and he's like trying to kick down the door. He's like, hey, what are you doing? I obviously can't do a good Tom Aspinall but yeah, that one always cracks me up

like he's got some good McGregor impression. So yeah, shout out to him. All of them are are doing very, very well. I don't know if there ever were any tensions on our side. That for sure. I'm not a big YouTube guy in general. I think it's generational. Like, I don't consume YouTube that way that I know that you and a lot of others

like in that same kind of like age range are like YouTube's the flip on. Yeah, I throw YouTube on my TV when I get home. And honestly, unless it's like a really crazy MMA video, like Patrick Gavia makes like amazing MMA docs. Oh, yeah, the docs, right? I've seen that before. This is obviously his content schedule is not going to be the same as these guys that are putting out videos, you know, day after day.

DJ also puts out some, like, really high-level shit. Obviously, he's doing collab shows, post-paper-view with Guru as well. I'm not going to be watching a ton of those unless they really, really catch my interest just because it is my day-to-day job as well. Yeah. Shout to them, though. Yeah. Shout to everybody who's just doing their thing.

That's what this is all about. That was all the voice bells. Nice. Super chats. Let's see here. Yeah, we got a couple super chats. Starting off, Casey, the pre-fight shows aren't the same. Mess you.

I think he's referring to the M.A. fighting pre-fight shows. Yeah, Casey's over here doing some great stuff for us. Hope you enjoy. Hope you check it out. It seems like based on the feedback, a lot of people enjoyed what we're doing, so look out for more from Casey. Then Rory Edwards writes back, how do we like our martial arts, Casey? we're really going deep on the

MMA fighting references he likes the mixed shout out the MAA Texans in Horse Meat Overeem for the win Yeah Said that before you guys did So shout out

Shout out horse meat over room Alajuan Dream says Honorable mention Lee Murray And Hannibal Lecter Mass Fair point Yeah it's scary Actual criminal Also fighting in the streets

Yeah Lee Murray is probably a good one All right Give me a second with this one Ace Boogie says Usman Gachi sitting out for title shots given that they are they are managed by that guy what are we missing there are other fighters much more deserving and i'm sure hunter dana can't love their stance um i don't know if that's true show that for me one more time here i also love how you say

give me a second one this one here and it's just a normal paragraph hold on guys just literally because like you interrupt while i'm reading it so it's like let me get the thoughts out but how did you know we were going to interrupt while you're ready you fuckers the same way everybody He's like, oh, shout out. They know. Given they're managed by that guy, what are we missing? I mean, come on. I don't think Usman beating Buckley warrants a title shot,

and I just don't think Gaei beating Fiziv twice warrants a title shot. Nor, I mean, maybe I'm mistaken. I think they probably want a title shot, but are they sitting out for a title shot? I don't know if that's true. I don't think so. Well, Gage is. Gage is. Sorry, Frankie. Is he?

He wouldn't take a fight. He would not take another fight? The way he's speaking is he's saying he'll retire if he doesn't. By the way, he said that before. That's nice. He said that before. Gitchie says a lot of stuff like that. Okay, go ahead.

Love the WCA banter. Detractor sent Arvosti. And what about the thing where... You say the rain will end. If WCA fights for the title, Fight Feast DR, top five cage moments? Those are two separate questions. Detractor since Arlovsky. you say the rain will end. Yeah, I've been saying it for a long time now. Yeah, if WCA fights for a

title, we'll fly to hit the Dominican Republic and do a fight fees. Okay, no bullshit, though. You and Waldo Cortez-A-Costa video Dominican food could actually be fucking like amazing. Everything I say, I just give him the Dana Whiteback. Just like, so do you like the Dominican food, Connor? I don't give a fuck. Who gives the shit? Get out of my face, Waldo. Get out of my face. He seems like such a nice guy. I feel like. I'm sure he's incredible. I feel like you guys would hit it off. You got to have one enemy of the state at all times. And mine right now is Waldo Cortez-Costa.

Can't keep getting away with it. Sorry, what was the second part? Top five Keech moments. We did that yesterday, right? I don't know. And lastly, Sledo finishes us off. Have you guys checked out Rob Whitaker's super bomb Mani Pachiel on Physical Asia that recently dropped on Netflix?

Whitaker is perfect for that show. Oh, shout out to Netflix. Frank's reading of it. It was great. Shout out to Netflix. I have not watched it, but I've seen a couple clips of it of physical Asia. I saw one guy was saying that the attack on Titan main villain is made after him. So shout out. I'm aware that it's happening.

I'm aware that Pacquiao and Whitaker are on it and Stungun Kim, but I have not seen it. And I haven't seen clips. You know, there of I. Another of I, shout out. Shout out Netflix. That was all of them. All right. That's it for Super Chats.

That's it for Ganda. Oh, wait. Yes, thank you, Frankie. I was just about to close out the show. I do have to shout out Don Davis. We didn't get a voicemail from him, but we know he's watching. What is this? Scariest time of the fights ever.

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