The Ariel Helwani Show - The Boys in the Back: UFC 308 deep dive, Halloween movie rankings, Ariel Helwani crashes (again)

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

On the second episode of The Boys in the Back, Eric Jackman (NewYorkRic) and Conner Burks (GC) react to recent comments by PFL's Donn Davis and then deep dive on the UFC 308 main event between Ilia Topuria and Max Holloway (02:12).Executive Producer Ariel Helwani crashes the show (again) to give a scorching hot take/prediction (43:32).Next, the Boys break down the UFC 308 co-main event and Khamzat Chimaev's potential (01:12:38).Plus, the relaunch of Fight Feasts, a new segment debuts, and your questions answered with the help of Mysterious Frank (01:35:53).

but but but but boys in the back but but but boys boys boys boys boys boys in the back what is good we are back another uh another episode of boys in the back and as you can hear uh we got our music cleared but but boys this is fire we had an independent artist a really an underground guy yeah get this done for us can we crank this thing thing up, Frank? Yeah, turn this up. This is fire. Yeah, this is sick. How did we find this guy? SoundCloud? We just reached out to him?

Yeah, he's up and coming, man. I mean, this feels like Lil Wayne discovering Drake or something like that. This is sick. What do you think, Frankie? I think it's fire. Probably some of the best work I've heard in a long time. Yeah, this is fire. Yeah, so all jokes aside, our music, you know, we still haven't gotten clearance.

But Big Frankie in the back put something there for us so we didn't have to come in completely cold. But welcome in. Episode two of Boys in the Back. How are you feeling, Rick? I'd say we sound a little bit better, man. We were getting some flack for our audio last week Did you take any of that personally Frank? All of it

I've made a list actually Well you took it personally and now we sound unbelievable These mics are so crisp We look so good on these cameras We do and I mean enhanced by ArielHall1.com Put that lower third right on over We don't need to see it

Shout out to Ariel ariel and and uh brandon no we're getting it uh ready uh yes thank you for joining us another episode of boys in the back a lot to get into today ufc 308 preview uh we'll do bets parlay pals are back i've officially received the pick from one juliana pena uh we got fight feasts we're debuting a new segment we'll get to that later and we're hopefully going to answer some of your questions if you want us to answer them you'll get in the chat either super chats or just regular chats in the chat we'll do that on the back end of the show just want to give you fair warning uh and you know we'll go as long as the people want to hear uh responses from us so we might not go very long no they're going to come through for us i can feel it

but the good news about doing shows like this on a Thursday, you know, later in the week, we're used to the Monday, Wednesday format. But now we're in here. We're in y'all's ears every single day. We get to react to stuff that happened. And with the fight card UFC 308 being out in Abu Dhabi, we've already gotten the press conference in the books. A lot of things happened at that. And there was some news last night and this morning from the PFL. Yes.

We'll kick off with that. Last night, Don Davis joined our friend Mike Heck over on MMA Fighting for a town hall. And it's been kind of going viral, the clip, where he said that he doesn't really watch MMA. He got asked, our friend Mike Heck asked him if he has a favorite fight of all time. And he said he doesn't watch MMA, essentially. Yeah, what he said was he's not watching in his free time, he's he's only watching um as it pertains to the business of the pfl i don't know if that will endear don to fight fans who are looking at pfl and maybe thinking it's being run too much like a business at this point and not necessarily like a fight

promotion um so a little bit of stepping in it but he had a solution don davis this morning via via x um announced that the pfl's championship is going to be uh free quote unquote right free because it's going to be on espn plus now obviously you have to have a subscription for that but there's no additional charge it won't be on the pay-per-view um like like it had been previously so what do you think that this is tied to the comments do you think he was looking for a way to kind of win back the fight fans i i don't think so i don't think a man of don davis's stature is going to be affected by people's comments on youtube and twitter and everything like that though he was he was getting it after after what he said uh but i think this

is a great move whether it's in a reaction to to fans or anything like that i think what he's saying is we heard you in we don't really want to pay 50 or however much it's going to cost uh 30 whatever it may be for the pfo world championships i think they had their pay-per-view with francis and ganu this this past weekend i just don't feel that the world championships, if they want to grow this brand, if they want to show these rising stars that are about to get these million dollar checks, I don't think you put it behind a paywall and make people pay for it. Yeah. I've been kind of long saying that they should do this. I'm glad they are. I don't

necessarily think it was in response to anything. I think it's just a smart move. I think you've now established what a PFL pay-per-view can be when you've got this Francis Ngannou pay-per-view. And now you can say, okay, the championship can exist in a different capacity. And as you said, give exposure to some of these fighters that are more unknown or up and coming and then could have an opportunity to fight on the big super fight type pay-per-views later. Smart move by PFL. Good on Don Davis and the PFL to do it. We're giving them praise. This is me just being a pessimist.

Is there any chance that they got the numbers from the Nganou pay-per-view and this is their, they're saying, let's not do it for the World Championships because we got X for Nganou.

For our best card ever. The skeptic in me thinks there's a possibility there. The optimist in me thinks this is the right thing to do regardless. It's the right thing to do regardless. It's the right thing to do regardless because I think you'll get a lot more eyes on it. Especially, it's always Thanksgiving weekend. Yes.

It's kind of their thing. They do the Black Friday event. We've been when it was in New York. It's always a ton of fun. Anything where they're going to bring out the giant checks, it's always a good time. The jumbos. I think the more viewers that you can get, the better. That's what you want to do. You want to get it in front of as many eyes as possible. And that's what they're going to do by not making this

an actual pay-per-view. Yeah. And I think it allows them the opportunity to kind of build, right, in a platform in a way that you don't have to say, this is our best of our best product and it's on pay-per-view and you have to pay for it. You're now creating a tier structure that I think makes a lot more sense for their product. All right. So UFC 308 taking place this weekend in Abu Dhabi because of the time difference, the press conference has already happened. It's 1 p.m. Eastern here and it's already happening. I'm not going to lie. I always forget with these like super different time changes. I wake up and

i like see clips of it i'm just like oh that that happened that happened already uh but there were some good moments not only from the press conference but also uh from the face-offs yes uh i mean if we want to kick it off i think we have some footage of of max holloway and and elia taporia uh going at it at the press conference let's start start with that. Let's start with them going back and forth. Yeah. We'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah, we'll get to that video. You know, we're still working out the kinks.

We're early on in this production. But from what I saw, it was testy but respectful. And then during the face-off itself, when Ilya's kind of laughing in Holloway's face, Holloway is just mean mugging him.

And he's just like, Ilya's like, I'll meet you in the center of the octagon and i was just like dude no like that that's my thing i dictate that like i'm not just gonna come and put everything on the line in the first 10 seconds of the fight he's acknowledged that it's dangerous it's a great way to sell a fight like we're gonna meet in the middle of the octagon in the first 10 seconds it's gonna be the most exciting start to a fight in ufc history but i i don't think that's going to happen i think max is going to come out and and fight the fight that he wants to fight exactly what you said i got the sense that ilia was trying to put max on the back foot like verbally like trying to kind of put him in in a position where he's like oh well now i guess i have to stand there and scrap with you because i'm that guy but ilia um i think didn't calculate the idea that Max is just like, this is my decision to make.

We got it right here. We're seeing the face off here. Just essentially laughing. Max not really having it. Shakes the hands. Right there is when he's saying. He's just like, I'll meet you in the middle of Max. Just shake the hand.

No, dude. No, we're not doing that. Ilya is what I would describe as doing a lot, right? But I think a lot of people, especially leading into the Volk fight, thought that Elia was kind of doing a lot, doing too much, quote unquote, putting his, his win on the record

before he even beat Alex Volkanovsky. Max is doing the least. Max is just like, I'm not engaging with this. I'm just keeping it, I'm keeping it low key and this is going to be

on my terms, which I like the dynamic between them right now. It's almost as if Max Holloway has been around the block once or twice right now. It's almost as if Max Holloway has been around the block once or twice. Yeah. He's the veteran in this scenario. It's almost like he's got a little bit of experience with this. They also had a moment during the press conference where there started to be some yelling. Max was like, dude, are you

going to let me talk? Are you going to let me talk? Didn't get anything crazy, nothing disrespectful or anything that we've seen in the past, but you know, I feel like both these guys are ready to go. Yeah, the energy is ramping up, especially from Ilya's side. Obviously, as I said, he's kind of trying to get under his skin a little bit. We've got, I think we have the video. Are we able to play the video of the press

conference? Max and Ilya going back and forth? The press conference one. Yeah, we went to it earlier, but we'll do it again. Right, right, right. The press conference one where there's talking not the face off okay so we'll get to that another time it's almost like they need some producers back there and uh they shouldn't be sitting up here front you know the guys who normally play the video probably guys are usually curing this up um the stage but uh what so do you feel like anything has drastically shifted in terms of where Max and Ilya are before fight week? Like has anything that Ilya's done or anything that's Max done kind of shifted how you're thinking about it?

No. I think Ilya is who he is. He's wildly confident and rightfully so. He's 15-0. He's an undefeated UFC champion. And essentially everything he has said has come to fruition. Like he does what he says he's going to do. So why would he lack any sort of confidence? Uh, he's willing to talk shit. He is willing to put his reputation on the line by announcing results before the fight even

happens. So there's nothing that surprises me. And he's doing it again here. You know, he's just like, I'm going to smoke you, man. Like I'm going to be the first one to knock you out. And that's just how this is going to go, man. And you just have to accept that. And he looks calm, cool, collected about it. And then Max is Max, man. He's not overly emotional. He's a vet, man. He knows exactly what he's doing. everybody kind of calls um ilia you know budget connor mcgregor right like they're kind of like oh he's doing what connor did he's running that same playbook but there is something to that like that visualization that knowledge of feeling like i know i'm supposed to be in this spot i know i'm supposed to be an all-time great i know i'm supposed to be the one who's in this position and kind of manifesting that if you have that confidence it's a lot harder to knock you from that perch than it is when you're doubting you know so there's a real power totally self-belief i mean on a smaller stage just look

at paul hughes last week all pts carroll ever does is talk about how he has this immaculate self-belief and he just knows that he's destined for greatness and that he's gonna win and here he goes and picks up the biggest one of his life elia tapori the same thing conor mcgregor the same thing like you have to have that confidence in this game. So, like, I don't... Some people, like, fault Ilya for having this confidence

or borderline cockiness, but, like, it's just who he is and, like, that's why he's where he is because he has this self-belief and this self-confidence. And people either love or hate it,

but they're paying attention to Ilya Teporia at all times. And now I know that kind of is cliche and a double-edged sword. You know, It can't always work that all PR is good PR, but there is a real reality to the fact that when Ilya is talking or Ilya is fighting, people are watching no matter what, whether they want him to lose or to win. If they see him as that cocky, brash kind of guy that they want to see get just desserts, well, you're going to still be watching for that to

happen. And if it doesn't happen, it just escalates and escalates and escalates as we saw with Conor McGregor and others too. It's not just Conor McGregor, but he's the, he's the clearest example of kind of like elevating that. Also, man, the doubt, the hate, it all fades away. If you just keep on winning, you keep winning. If he just keeps putting up insane results, the fans will come and he's got fans, man. I mean, i mean his his his absolute explosion on on instagram and all the socials and going to real madrid after the last fight proves that i mean if he just keeps winning that you're gonna stop hearing like oh he's too cocky uh this that i mean you go back and watch before mcgregor won any of his titles like there's like highlight reels of people

being like he's so smug and annoying he's not, and he hasn't proven anything. And then it quiets all the doubters down. If he loses, I don't think it's one of those situations. I don't think the risk is that high in terms of running this playbook because even if you lose, you get one more win, and you're right back at it. I don't think you lose too much stock even if he suffers a defeat, and especially at the hands of somebody like a Max Holloway or even had it been Alexander Volkanovsky.

It's kind of like, yeah, those guys are the best in the world. He'll be back kind of situation. He's still so young. He's still got so much time. I think it's the right playbook to be running from Ilya Soporia's perspective. Yeah. A couple other moments from the press conference that I,

that I wanted to get into the one, if we have it is a man comes up. Yeah. Essentially asks Dana white, if he can get signed to the UFC, if we, if we could run that, it was a really special moment. Yeah, we'll get to that

later. We'll get there. Here we go. Now we got it. Please give me a chance, Dana. I want to fight in UFC. Please give me. I'm ready. Fight to show. Please give me, Dana. I want to fight. What's your record?

9-0. 9-0. How old are you? 25. How old? 25, yeah. 25 years old? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

What weight are you in? In what weight? In what weight? Lightweight. Lightweight? Yeah. Where were you on the Contender Series? What weight are you in? What weight? Yes, lightweight. Lightweight? Yeah. Where were you on the Contender Series? The Contender Series just ended. Where were you? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm ready. You ready?

Give me a chance, please. Yeah. Doesn't matter. UFC. Counter-Denial. What I love about this is like, Dana's gotten these and he usually rebukes them or wipes it away. How many times has a fighter probably DMed him, tweeted him? He seems to take this one seriously. He brings them up there. He's curious about them.

It's interesting to see. This feels like something that you could look back on in a few years and be like, man, dude shot his shot and he got what it was. By the way, this is 7-0 according to topology. I know he says 9-0 there. I don't know. According to topology, a fighter from Tajikistan, and I'm going to butcher this, Dorobashk Nabatov is his name. But yeah, he is undefeated.

He's been fighting in AMC uh he's fought in aca as well uh and he shot a shot man he said let me get a chance dana brought him up and who knows who was he bringing back to in the backstage like it's just like let's sign a contract man yeah maybe hunter maybe the matchmakers it seemed like it works he shot the shot and he made it so uh shout out to that guy like what what a moment um as you said dude if they do sign him like the way like the wherewithal of daniel white to be like if he was thinking of being like man this could be a great moment that like really sells if he becomes something not even like it doesn't have to become a champion even if he's like a guy who becomes in like let's say he wins

two fights all of a sudden it's a story it's it's a big sure for sure if he like you say he ever became ranked it would be crazy i will say though you know if you're a guy who's on contender series and you're like i had to fight for five and five and this guy just kind of got entered into the ufc this way let's see if maybe he ends up on contender series um they're not in season right now but let's see if that happens or maybe maybe he did this on purpose you know contender series just ended like a week and a half ago he was like i'll shoot my shot right when contender when it's over i don't have to do contender series um also you have to imagine now every time that there's fan q a at a press conference there is going to be some prospect you set the precedent you set the precedent that now they're going to be on the mic

every single time dana white's just yo next question uh i'm seven and oh out of uh buffalo new york and then it's just gonna be every single time uh yeah we i mean we got another like question non-question as well like uh a reporter asking robert whitaker if he should just stay up all night and celebrate and stuff basically just like a robert whitaker fan just like looking to get gassed up yeah and hamzat uh didn't take kindly to that no he shut that down hard, which actually I respect. I respect. We want to get real questions to the fighters. But still, really special moment for Nabatov.

And maybe we'll see him in the UFC one day. There were other face-offs as well. But that'll just take us right in to the UFC 308 preview. We got to jump back now into the main event. There's so much meat on this bone. It's just a fight that I'm absolutely in love with. with i've been looking forward to it for when was it made because that's how long i've been looking forward to it until since it became official i i have been had this one circled on the calendar so many questions uh that i want to see answered will get answered on

saturday uh we now know that eliot tapori is elite0, undefeated, gets the belt from Alexander Volkanovsky in emphatic fashion back in February. Max Holloway is elite. We have known this forever. This is nothing new. Two incredibly elite fighters at different points in their career. One is just

starting their title reign and hoping to rack up as many defenses as possible. He's already discussing moving up to 155, obviously that being Ilya Teporia. And then Max Holloway sort of only 32 years old, but at the later stages of his career, because he's been fighting for so long that he already had a title run. He's tried to get the belt back several times from Alexander Volkanovsky, was unsuccessful in those attempts. Now he's done fun fights. Justin Gaethje, the BMF back at 300, gave us one of the best moments ever. It's just this incredible matchup

that I just feel like guarantees fireworks. You're number one, I believe. Number one. This is the one you're looking forward to the most of the whole year. When you think about guys that you just know are going to come to scrap, Ilya Teporia and Max Holloway are on that list.

Look at Ilya Teporia's last few fights. Even just go back to Jai Herbert where he got rocked, fought back, gets a flatlining knockout of Jai Herbert. So like even when he got in trouble, he was able to show resiliency and come back and fight Bryce Mitchell. Domination. Yep.

Pillar to post till he got that finish. It was complete domination. Josh Emmett. I was on such a high after the Josh Emmett performance. The 50-44s. I think there was a 10-7 in there as well. I was on such a high. I went and got paella

the next night. I was like, this dude is incredible. I'm trying to go eat some Spanish food. Went and tried paella for the first time. And then obviously, this past February, Volkanovski. Just like an insane performance and then and all those times never close just came in there and just dominated the guy who had been reigning for that long brother he is coming to scrap even like the ryan hall fight he was just

like i'm not engaging in this shit i'm gonna finish you like comes to scrap and then the flip side of this oh yeah now he's fighting max holloway it's just like max Holloway is the definition of like, yeah, I'm coming to fight, dude. Like I'm not – this isn't going to be some tentative bullshit. Like I'm not – I am coming to scrap. And when you get that at this level with this much on the line, like my heart's beating right now. I'm so excited for it. It's definitely up there for me, especially considering that Eubank and Ben wasn't made this year. Please stop. Stop. Those fights are not even in the same conversation um but uh no on a more serious note although i am

serious about eubank event um you you've laid it out perfectly like you get you can guarantee with these two guys that they are coming to fight there's there's not going to be tentative moments in the fight the way that they win their fights are by being pressure fighters, are by being on the front foot and being aggressive. So it's going to be super fascinating. Like when you think about Max and Volk, Volk is a lot more content to kind of be countering and picking his spots. Ilya Teporia is a foot down on the pedal, go forward fighter. Max Holloway is a foot down on the pedal, go forward fighter. It is a perfect style clash. I love it. I mean, just like the way you describe it is is just fantastic so we said max holloway at one point was the featherweight champion racked up i think three or four defenses uh during that time but then he met

his match in alexander volkanovsky is oh and three against volk 18 and three in the last 10 years at featherweight this guy is 18. He's 18-3. Literally, 18-3. Because I was going to say, the three losses are to one Alexander Volkanovsky. So the question for me is, did Alexander Volkanovsky just have Max Holloway's number? Was it just a good stylistic matchup for him that he was able to capitalize on it and go 3-0 against one of the greatest featherweights of all time? Or are we going to play mma math here and say okay you went oh and three against volk and then i killed volk so what am i going to do to you if you're really a taboria i

don't love the mma math part of it i'm willing to concede that there is a possibility that it wasn't just volk was the perfect style matchup for him, right? I'm willing to concede that maybe somebody can beat Max Holloway if they can effectively do what Alexander Volkanovsky did, right? I don't think it comes down to like, I don't think when I think of Volk, I don't think of like crazy physical attributes, right? When you say like, go be John Jones, you're never going to be John Jones because you're not built the way John Jones is built. You can't be Francis Ngannou because there are no Francis Ngannous. They don't exist in the human species. They don't exist outside of that one person. Volkanovski doesn't strike me as that

type of guy, right? He's certainly physically, he's always in shape. He's got amazing cardio, but the physical gifts are not necessarily what it is. How Volk has won his fights and remains on top for so long is he's extremely smart. He's extremely technical and executes a really strong game plan. And against Max Holloway, he had a perfect game plan.

In fact, to the point where it seemed like his game plan wasn't the right game plan in the second fight, in the early going of the second fight, and then completely switched his game plan to drive him to success. So being smart, being technical, having that cardio that's

going to carry him through the five rounds, I don't think those are things that could not be replicated by somebody. I don't think that's something that if somebody was to study what Volkanovski did against Max Holloway would not be able to be replicated. Now, can you do it as well as Volk? That's very difficult, right? That is a very hard task for somebody to be able to do, but I don't think it's impossible. But what I will say is I don't know if Ilyas Aporia is that person, right? I will get to kind of how we view this fight later. I'm not saying I don't think Ilyas Aporia can win, but I'm saying that I don't think if he is to win, it is the same way that Alexander Volkanovsky won. And that is one way to defeat Max Holloway. And maybe it's the

only way. We will find out. I don't know, but I don't think it will look like the way Volk beat Max. If he is to win. Do you think there's any chance that if Elia wins, it will look like the way that he beat Volk? So what I'm saying is concrete chin, Max Holloway. I mean, the dude,

I want to say never knocked down, but like, I feel like even Max has admitted to the gauge. That was, that was a knockdown, but like, I feel like even Max has admitted to the gauge. That was, that was a knockdown, but like the chin is, is other worldly. I mean,

he's absorbed like 2000 plus significant strikes over the course of his UFC career. Uh, and like, we've never even really seen him like, cause yeah, he may have gotten knocked down against Justin Gaethje, but he immediately got right,

right back up. Uh, we've never seen him like this. The thought of Max Holloway, like getting put out like that is like my brain like i'm trying to picture it like my brain like can't properly picture it but like he does get hit he's willing to engage in the fire he got knocked down but he wasn't woozy he right he recovered immediately he wasn't he wasn't rocked for lack of a better

term he wasn't out of it um and never been. Max's chin is extremely solid. Do I think it's possible? Yeah, because I think Ilya is a special type of puncher. He's a special type of boxer and a special type of striker, to be honest. I don't think it's impossible, but what I will push back against, and maybe this transitions into where we're leaning on the fight, I've seen a lot of people kind of looking at it as a foregone conclusion that Ilya is going to do that. And I don't know if I can get there.

Like I'm willing to accept that possibility. I'm willing to accept that there's a real chance it happens. But it seems like it's almost assumed. And I guess it's on the back of what Ilya has been able to do to some great fighters and I respect it. But man, Max Holloway is just different, man. I don't know. Until I see it, it's just like i said last week i said about cyborg until i see it i'm not willing to go there until i see somebody actually do that to max holloway i don't know i i don't

think that i don't think that that's how that's gonna go right i i tend to agree with you in the in the fact that like can it happen of course anybody can get got like we're all we're all human beings at the end of the day though i tend to believe guys like cheeto vera and max holloway might not be 100 human like there's like something something going on there that they just like can't be knocked out but like to that point like francis and gano up until the joshua fight i was like this guy's chin is just like the level. Like he was eating shots from Tyson Fury. Like he's eating big shots at the heavyweight level. And then like, you know, anybody can get folded, but I'm with you. Like

until I see it happening, because I believe by the odds, if you were going with a method, the most likely method that Vegas is giving out is Ilya Taboria by knockout. I believe it's like plus 170. So it's not like it's like minus 110 or anything like that. But I believe that is the most likely outcome according to Vegas. But I'm with you, man.

I don't think that the chin goes here. I think that this is, I guess let's just get right into it on what we actually think. On that topic, before we go, this is the same stuff we were hearing about justin gaethje now you can go back and pull tweets from people being like i'm worried for max's health before the gaethje fight he's going up to 155 and he's fighting justin gaethje like we're going to carry him out on a stretcher and the odds reflected that dude he was like a plus 210 yeah uh and like at opening and was still a fairly sized underdog going into that fight and like everyone remembers we've talked about going into that fight and like everyone remembers

we we've talked about it on this program several times everyone remembers the knockout but like max holloway had the fight in hand he's blanking him he was at worst four one like he was he was looking fantastic he just got on the bike and just rode it man and like there's a world where like he's able to accomplish that in this fight as well. Ilya Teporia is not Justin Gaethje. He is a much more crafty striker. He's more technical. I believe the power

is real and equivalent. I believe that either of them landing clean will knock somebody out. But it is giving me the same vibes. It is a lot of the like, how long can Max do this type stuff?

And if the last performance was any indicator a really long effing time man like he feels rejuvenated man totally after after volk 2 after volk 3 in july of 2022 like it was almost like damn like is that like is that it for max i gotta take a bit of a victory lap here. Take it. Because after that fight, the whole narrative was, I don't want to see Max Holloway fight at 145 anymore. I want to see Max Holloway at 155. Everybody was saying that. And I proposed the fight to actually make is Ilya Teporia versus Max Holloway.

And I was ridiculed for this. I was ridiculed because I said, this is the fight that is the most intriguing to me. I think it would be the best style matchup. I know Ilya Zaporia has a date with Volk or it seemed like we were on that path and I'm okay with that, but I wouldn't mind if Max or Ilya fight and then they fight the winner of Volk. We've gotten the inverse of that, right? Now he fought Volk and now Max is fighting the winner. I've always wanted to see this fight and I always thought it could be the perfect pairing. And I wasn't sure Max didn't seem like he wanted to go to 55. He seems perfectly capable at 45. And now he is in the title opportunity of a lifetime to re regain a belt that I believe

he hasn't had. And our, our good buddy Ovin sent me the numbers. I think it's like 1700 or 1800 days since he, he lost the title. Would that be the longest reclimit? Yeah. So it'd be the longest that he would be able to cap. somebody would be able to capture UFC gold. Not the same title, because I believe, Ovin can correct me if I'm wrong, that Randy Couture took longer to get the same belt back,

but had made a journey to light heavyweight and gotten a different UFC belt. But between UFC gold, I believe this is the longest span in 1,700 or 1,800 days, which would be an incredible feat if you were able to have been that dominant early and then reclaim it later. Max Holloway is so hot right now, like in terms of like,

he has a monster fan base as it is. Like he's just such a likable dude. That knockout was one of the best ever on the biggest card ever so the the max holloway rub the jump from that was massive massive dude like he was going on like every like my memory's foggy but like for some reason i'm imagining him like on the damn today show after but i think it was just more like pat mcafee and stuff uh but like he had patrick mahomes tweeting about it like you had the biggest names like on earth tweeting about this dude. It, like, took him to, like, another stratosphere. Like, a guy that people already like that's been around for a minute that they're familiar with on the biggest card to have that moment.

Like, it's just taken him to another stratosphere. And if he can beat Ilya and get the belt back, it's just like – him and Alex, like, forget, like, Fighter of the Year or anything like that. They will be competing for biggest babyface of the year anything like that they will be competing for biggest baby face in the ufc like they will be so beloved if max can get this done absent conor mcgregor who is on the shelf at the moment biggest stars in the ufc like max holloway it's easy to to forget because again post volk it seemed like it was kind of like max was in limbo i personally never thought that he was kind of in limbo because I thought outside of Volk, he still has so many fights at 145, Ilya proving to be one of

those fights, but so many fights at 155 as well. Like Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway had one of the best fights of all time, in my opinion, the second fight that they had. And if those two were to ever be paired again, I mean, like that's a fight fan's dream. So there are lots of opportunities. The Gaethje fight proved to be exactly what we kind of wanted from that. There's so many things out there for Max, but what's important to remember is like, even though the, the path to the title seemed to have been closed off. And now we see that it was not actually the star power never diminished. Max Holloway is still a name that if you ask the casual fight fans, they will know him over some of the other UFC champions. They will know him over some of the other UFC champions. They will know him over some of the

other rising prospects. Max is a name that resonates still, and their star power was still there. Now you combine that with the fact if he gets the UFC 300 knockout of Justin Gaethje, parlays that into beating this unbeaten Ilya Teporia on another huge pay-per-view, he's entering that territory where it's like, alex and max are kind of these guys at this point islam maybe is kind of in that conversation but the the the ability to draw at that point is is going to be massive for max holloway next fight will be a massive massive massive fight i guess that i guess that leads me into the implications of what happens to both guys yes depending on the result if If Max Holloway loses,

you just mentioned something that really piqued my interest. He still has the BMF belt. The BMF belt is not on the line this weekend. If he loses this weekend, he's probably done in the title picture

at 145, understandably. We said that last time, by the way. I guess so. I guess so. We said that last time. He is only 32 as well. If he loses,

what do you think would be next for him? Do you think he goes back to 155, gets a race? Him and Poirier for the BMF belt at 155? I would love nothing more than Max Holloway versus Dustin Poirier. And now the door seems more open to that than ever because Dustin is seemingly like,

yeah, I got two more, right? It seemed like it was one more. It seemed like title or bust. Now it's two more. Him and Dustin, BMF belt on the line. Sign me up immediately. Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, Louisiana. UFC 314

or something like that next April or something like that. I mean, I'm in. You can't do better than that. If he wins, I guess you do Volk 4. And now it's him defending. He will have gotten the belt back and have the fourth matchup with him while having never

beat him. This is one of the corners I've been on for a long time. I don't know how much you've experienced this with me, but it might predate you. If you have number one and number two, and they are as good as potentially Volk and Max, let's assume that Max wins. We're only operating that world at this moment, right? I'm discounting, let's assume Max wins. If you have number one and number two, and they are as good and as entertaining as Volk and Max are, I will watch it until you decide not to do it anymore. If it's number five and Volk is four and O, I'll still watch. If it's number seven and Volk is six and O I will

still watch. If I am very sure that these are the number one and number two, I can get there with you. And so I would not shake my fist at a Max Holloway versus Volk four. I also think we're at a point where Max seems to be on the rise and Volk is the one who's on the downside, right? Like Volk is the one who needs to rebuild a little bit. So I'd be intrigued by that fight, but I think I'm rare. I think most people do not want to see it run back. Okay. All right. So I'm not dying to see it get run back, but what would make it wildly intriguing to me is if Max Holloway is the featherweight champion of the world. And now Alexander Volkanovsky is trying to get the belt back. That's how you make it intriguing to me. Like if, if Max loses, then of course, no for Volk Max 4. It's just not a fight that I want to see.

And even if there was a path down the road where Volk got the belt back from Teporia, say, then I still wouldn't want to see. I don't want to see it with Volk as champion. I love the idea of Max as champion, Volk is now trying to get the belt back, and you do the fourth. It puts a fresh coat of paint on it that I think other fight fans can get along with I don't care who's champion I would watch it no matter what but I think that is dependent in my mind entirely on a win over Ilya Teporia as you said like if he loses to Ilya I don't care what the path to that looks back to that looks like I would consider Ilya the number two or number one and Volk number two or

number one and so I would be less interested and less compelled by Max versus Volk. He has to beat Ilya. But if he beats Ilya, give me number four, baby. I'm in. I don't care. Sign me up. Actually, I'm mapping it out now. This is all we're living in a universe where Max Holloway wins on Saturday night.

He wins on Saturday. Baby face to the Max. Yeah. Then he gets his opportunity to right his wrongs against Alexander Volkanovski in spring of next year. And then fall, win or lose in that fight, goes back up to 155, Dustin BMF belt, Louisiana. I mean, sign me up, sign me up. Now, let's live in the alternate universe. Yes.

Where Ilya Teporia wins, becomes champion. Which I believe, according to the betting lines, is the universe that is most likely, according to the betting lines. Minus 230 right now for Ilya Teporia. Max Holloway plus 195 coming back. Not to become champion, to defend his belt. Where does he go from here? Volk 2?

Volk 2. That's the fight. Yeah. I think Volk has earned that with the time he put in. I think that that is a rightful rematch, and I'd be totally okay with that. And is there another option that I think is better? Like, I don't think there's a comparable option.

Like, I think it is Volk. All right. Let me map out how I just mapped out Max. Let me map out 2025 for Ilya Teporia. Beats Max Holloway on Saturday. Everyone is now like this guy is so legit. It's unreal. Next

Conor. Next Conor. Star continues to just blow up. He's a hero in Spain. Fights Volk in spring. Defends his belt against Volk. Now it's just like this dude is a monster. Abu Dhabi next year goes up to 155 to fight Islam to try and become a double champ. I got to be honest. I don't have any interest in that fight.

Well, someone who could derail that is Armin Sarukin. Yeah. Armin could beat you. But then you just say fight Armin. I don't... I know Ilya is talking about going up to – He's been tweeting about it. He's like, brother – No, he's talking about going up to 70. I mean – Well, he's got to get to 155, and then he goes up and fights Bilal, Shavkat, whoever it may be at 170.

This guy is playing it right in my opinion, but I don't – I'm not interested in that fight. I think Islam is too big. I think Islam is more likely to go up to 170 and snatch a belt than he is to fight of another 45 pound champion and so i'm not particularly interested in that i could be convinced i'd almost rather see uh taporia versus another 55 or to kind of see where he's at at once he's up at that weight again you know like max always fighting a justin gaethje i like that level of competition to see like if you're ready to fight for a title um but then you kind of lose like the that one crack at the double champ thing the thing that volk got and the thing that conor mcgregor and others in the past have gotten i don't love

it i would personally rather see conor mcgregor i'd rather just see what we've been kind of leading toward what all roads have been converging on. Okay. Ilya versus Conor McGregor. I feel like where they're at in their careers, Ilya would be heavily favored in that matchup. Yeah, he would. Can you talk about the star power

if he goes out there and beats Conor McGregor? This is it. The path is Ilya's on this trajectory to be the next Conor. What better way to cement that than if he actually takes out? Oh, and can you just picture the world where Conor McGregor's return fight is against Ilya Teporia and he somehow pulls off the unthinkable and hands Ilya Teporia the first loss of his career. It would be beautiful.

Oh, I love this fight. The implications, everything that's just at hand, the way that the MMA world can shift on how this fight plays out. Like, oh, it just gets me so hyped. And then the fight itself is just going to be unbelievably sick. I cannot wait for Saturday. It's going to be amazing. Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that this happen at 45.

I'm not suggesting this happen only if Ilya captures a 55. You want to go to 170, Ilya? You can fight Conor at 170. That I'm more interested in. That I'm more interested in. But maybe 155, maybe 160, somewhere in that range. I just think we seem to be on a collision course with that. It makes sense to me that Conor McGregor would fight Ilya Teporia.

Ernabeo? Croke Park? it would just be nuts that uh that's a stadium fight no doubt about it that is a stadium fight i i love this fight now that we've talked about it even more i love it even more just because of what can come from this like the the fights that that are on the other side of this fight just like get me even more excited and all you need to do to get there is beat one of the best featherweights ever and one of the best featherweights ever

and then one of the other best featherweights ever. All you got to do is beat the two best. And if you said that to Ilya, he would say, okay, great. No problem. Sounds good. Yeah, good.

Let's book it. All right. Before we move on to the coming event, we're not going to sit wishy-washy here yes i need a prediction i'm going max holloway it's it's yeah it's okay let me let me lay it out this way the way i lay it out for me this fight is very difficult for me to to make a pick a side on because i truly do believe and have always believed that ilia taporia is championship caliber and is a champion and is a guy who could be a future of this division but i i guess it

comes from my place of i'm still not ready to close the door and shove max out of it i i i'm not ready to say like the fit the 45 Max is done in the way that I think most people moved on after the Volk series. I never did. And I'm still not there. And I've only been able to think of this in ways of things that I do know and things that I don't know, right? I'm not going to speculate, but things that I do know, Ilya Teporya is a special fighter and can beat Max Holloway. No doubt in my mind, I am not discounting the fact that Ilya Teporia could beat Max Holloway. And I think he has several ways to win. I think there could be a world where it becomes grappling heavy and he's just kind of big and is able to muscle Max around and submits him or just has him in a bad position. I could

see that happening. I could also see a world where Max is just never able to get on his front foot and is the one who's retreating. And Max is good there, but he's not great there. He's much better when he's the attacker, when he's the aggressor, when he's hunting. And if the early rounds look like Ilya pushing him back, I would not be surprised that Ilya is taking those early rounds. And I expect that almost to happen. That I know. I know these things. What I also know on the other side is that Max Holloway's pace, I don't care if you're bigger, I don't care if you're Justin Gaethje's size, is one of the hardest possible things you could deal with as a fighter. Because he is going to be coming at you with a relentless pace that you know is going to last five rounds, and he's going to be throwing the most punches at your face you've ever experienced in your entire life. It is hard to replicate that. I don't care who you're training with.

They cannot do what Max Holloway does. He is just one of one. He is unique in that regard. He's 5,000 or whatever strikes it is ahead of the second place most significant strikes landed in UFC history. He is that dude when it comes to that. And so being able to deal with that is something that you're either able to do, like you're Volkanovski, or you're not like you're the 18 other wins on his record since that loss to Conor McGregor. So Ilya Tepory experiencing that and dealing with that, I know is going to be difficult. Do I know that he will not be able to handle it? I can't say that. I only know that that will be difficult to face. And the other thing I know

is that Max Holloway is one of the most durable fighters ever. And so if somebody was to be put in the place to fight Ilya Teporia, having one of the best chins ever is a good advantage, is a good thing to have. Combine that with the two things. And I do just, I just feel like there will be a point in this fight where Ilya Teporia is facing something he has not seen before and Max might be able to take over. There's a real world where Ilya also can come out hot and just finish this and just stop him and the rocket ship explodes. I'm not discounting it, but like I said with Cyborg last week, until I see this, I can't get there. And so I side with Max. Okay. All right. I am going to lay it out for you. My prediction. Uh, I'm going to go, uh, very close fight. I'm going to say

that Max Holloway's chin holds up. I think the boxing is elite and, uh, he is able to prosper defensively in a very close fight. he starts scoring rounds later people kind of feel like he won the fight as it ends but ilia banked those early rounds and he and he got the fourth round as well uh wins a split decision ilia toporia but the fans are like man i i had it there's controversy around it it's a very close fight, but Ilya Teporia retains the decision. That's my official prediction. I could see that as well. And I think if you, Ilya Teporia has many ways to win this fight. I truly believe that. But Max Holloway's one way of winning fights is one of the best ways you've got, which is just punching the other guy way, way, way more times than they

punch you. Oh, what moment are we gonna get are we gonna get that grab the wrist um this is showing you i'm the best boxer in the world as you're lighting up calvin kate the the finger point like what does max holloway have in the books i i can't wait i wouldn't be surprised to see uh i'm the best boxer in the ufc coming out i wouldn't be surprised slipping punches uh or i't be surprised if Ilya's getting off on him to see Ilya say I'm the best boxer. Oh, I can't wait, dude. That'd be pretty sick. I can't wait.

We're getting told producer Helvani is in the back. Is there a line? There you are. Is there a line on whether or not Ilya will actually show up and do the 10 second point thing? Is there something out there? Because I feel like this has been one of the

juiciest storylines going into this. Ilya says he's doing it and he doesn't think Max is going to reciprocate. Max says you're just copying me because you're a copycat. I like the gamesmanship. We're going to find out literally in the first 10 seconds if Ilya is capping or no capping. I want to know, is there a line? Has someone put it out there?

Who's got the line on it? Okay, I have not seen a line for it, but you want my official prediction on that portion of the fight as well? Go ahead. Ilya Zaporia comes out to the center of the cage. He points, and Max is just like, dude, that's my thing. I'm not doing this with you.

And then Ilya does a shrug of like, wow, he's really not about it, and then they just go on. I think that's it. I think that's exactly what happened. I think Max no-sells it, 100%. But I think Ilya does it. I think Ilya they just go on. I think that's it. I think that's exactly what happened. I think Max no-sells it, 100%. But I think Ilya does it. I think Ilya does it.

Yeah, I think he does it. I almost think he knows that Max is going to be like, dude, that's not the game plan I'm coming in here. Is this cringe? No. No. No. I think it's smart by Ilya Tepory.

He's trying to pressure Max Holloway into a situation to put himself in a bad spot. Because if Ilya and Max stand toe-to-toe like that, Ilya is going to win that, especially when they're fresh, especially when Max hasn't had an opportunity to put it on him like that. And Max knows it's stupid. He has said, and I forget who he said this to, forgive me, but I did see it in the media that he said, it's not the dumbest. Was it to DJ?

Yeah, I think it was to Mishus Johnson. He said it's the BMF belt, not the DMF belt. He's not the dumbest MF-er in the game. And so that would not behoove him to do. But it is very smart by Elliott to put that pressure because the fans, I mean, as soon as he said it to you on the Ariel Helwani show, watch that every Monday through Wednesday. He said that he was going to do it. It became the clip That everybody was circulating

So people are interested I think if he does it people will say it's cringe I don't think it's cringe for the record I like the gamesmanship I like the mind games But I think people will say it's cringe All the Ilya is trying too hard All the Ilya is cringe I think he's

Fucking killing it I think they've I think he's Fucking killing I love it I Love I think they've both been amazing Yes in their own special way I think The press conference today was great I love The fact that they're they're they're jawing at Each other they're going back and forth I love everything about it I do have a hot take Though you guys want to hear my hot

Take well first at first You know a couple things What about this right here I have several notes about the show Actually one other one like if we're talking about clothing These headphones are great man I can hear everything crystal clear They're like earmuffs though is my face a little bit red

I mean I am I might have to lose the hoodie I got the hoodie supporting Max but man it is It is warming You're doing one thing wrong though The move is left side on the ear, left side on the right ear, right side, because you've got the- Oh, you get the ventilation. No, no, no.

It's because you've got the cord coming through. It's just the way Frank, audio guy, did it. I don't know. So this dates back. We had the same headphones, MMA Hour days. I put the left one on the right ear. Look, do it right now. Do it right now and see the difference.

You see it? You see it? You see how much more comfortable that is? You don't have the thing coming. Oh, I see what you're saying. You don't have to put it behind. I mean, that's just one step too far. But if that... Yeah, that looks a little dorky. If that... Frank doesn't like it because you're criticizing his work. I would say... Yeah, what do we got? This is very

inside baseball, but, you know, production notes from the man in the back, if you will. Cameras look fantastic today. Shout out to our team at Yahoo for upgrading our cameras in a very big way. You guys didn't have that luxury last week, so tremendous job. Lighting looks fantastic. Shout out to LDG and the other Ariel on the team for upgrading things. I'm a little bit jealous.

I feel like you guys look better than me. No, I mean, you know, we've got stuff later. Your wardrobe, New York Rick, looks infinitely better on two fronts. Number one, you're rocking the limited edition El Nari's Action Bronson shirt, El Nari's Grande, that is, which you can get right now over at arielhawani.com.

Limited drop. It's also, you know, dare I say, I hope you don't take offense, it's just a little bit of a better quality black tee than you usually wear. Sometimes your also, you know, dare I say, I hope you don't take offense, it's just a little bit of a better quality black tee than you usually wear. Sometimes your sleeve is rolled up. We're not sure if you just rolled out of bed or if you put on a fresh tee. We're not sure. What do you normally wear? Here, it's crisp.

This is crisp. We've got to get you some high quality stuff. This is crisp. Tagless. What about that print? You see the print? We're really making the sales pitch here. I'm just saying. Look, I will not deny it's fantastic quality.

I mean, you know, I don't appreciate the hinged regular t-shirts. No, no, no. I'm just, you know, speaking of not appreciating, I did notice

when you were proudly rocking the shirt that there was a graphic on top of it and GC said, leave the graphic up. Felt a bit like haterade there

Who me? I mean just why leave it up Why can't we rock I don't know It was more me just being like Oh wow we're going to go plug the t-shirt And here's a lower third over it Oh I understand

Okay fair enough Still waiting for the King of Merch To rock some of our merch I have it in the collection It's yet to be seen I'm still waiting for Frank I don't think There's an update on that one Frank I think Rick just took this out of it. I have it in the collection. It's yet to be seen. I'm still waiting for Frank. I don't think... There's an update on that one, Frank. Why don't you...

I think Rick just took this out of the bag and put it on. It's possible. It's possible, but... I literally just took this out of the bag. I appreciate the effort nonetheless. Now we get to the actual production notes. There were a couple of, you know, there were a couple of trips to the well of, hey, let's play this video, and that did not

actually play. Shut up not actually play sorry about that and i'm just wondering you know i had a talk with on air jordan back here and uh the the um the skinny appears to be that someone requested on air jordan who is the lone producer back here because you two are sitting in the studio uh the skinny seems to be that someone told On Air Jordan to sit here in this chair where he cannot control said video, yet no one was going to him. And so I'm wondering why not have him there where he could play the video so that you guys

don't look like you are, you know, drowning. He can't control the video. Why can't he control the video? Oh, now we're getting dicey dicey. Now we're getting dicey. I was just, I came in, he was sitting here and I was like, well, what happened to those videos? I was just I came in He was sitting here And I was like Well what happened To those videos

And he said Well I'm sitting here I can't necessarily Play them as quickly Perhaps it is Is that fair Jordan Is that fair As quickly

He gives me a thumbs up That's actually That's actually where Me and Rick Play the videos from Well Yeah but he's also Listen we're gonna give

Listen A lot going on I'm not trying to Create a mutiny here Listen we're gonna Give Jordan a reprieve We're gonna We're gonna respect He's got a lot going on,

but we're also not going to take this slander on this being our fault when it was clearly on Air Jordan's fault. I think it was a decision to sit him here when, in reality, you're not using him in this chair, so why not have him in the comfortable chair? He could play the videos so that you guys look good, or at least say, hey, we're going to come to you at 1.30. We're going to play videos

between 1 and 1.30. Let's have the guy in the chair where he could play the video. No, I think we said we're going to play the videos right off the top. Okay, so then he should have sat there in the spot

as opposed to sitting here as a spectator. Where he can also play videos. It seems like it takes a little bit longer. It's because he has the two other computers open. I get this.

This seems to be something you guys have to work out. In the end The final product is The videos didn't air So that's really the final product The final answer The videos did air

You guys called for videos multiple times And they did not air That's correct They eventually did air But I'm just saying, when you called for them, they did not air, so let's try to get to a spot where when you call for them, they do air, looking out for you

guys. Right, for sure, for sure, right. So, like, you know, the production team can be quicker. Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just taking notes from back here as the executive producer. I don't know how any of the buttons work. It's all very, it's work. It's all very intimidating back here. I mean, I could probably try to do it.

And he made... Yeah, I don't think I can nail it. I did like the inclusion of the videos. I thought the Tepori stuff was great. The Holloway stuff was great. And then the kid shooting his shot. You think this is... Speaking of shooting the shot, you think it's a work?

I think that's almost giving them too much credit. if it was a work i think it's brilliant it's in a look mickey gall got got his shot by being the cm punk kid he got on the microphone he said i want to beat cm punk they signed him they put him in that tournament against mike jackson blah blah blah he gets the cm punk fight that became his identity for years. There's a very, very famous angle in WWE. They were in Italy. They had a wrestler planted in the front row named Santino Morella. He raised his hand saying, hey, I want to get my shot. They put him in there, I think, against Umaga. He has an incredible moment. And then all of a sudden, he's now the guy from Italy who was picked out of the crowd. It's almost the exact same thing. So I was just thinking, wow,

could you imagine if they actually planted this kid in there and said, you be the kid who raises his hand and gets the opportunity to live out his dream by doing this? It's brilliant. I don't think that's what happened. I give Dana a lot of credit for doing it. But to your point, Rick, now he's going to get this every single time. And you would know this better than me because your memory when it comes to this stuff is

stronger than mine. But like, I feel like people have tried this in the past and it hasn't gone this well, right? Like, I feel like it's kind of just been like brushed aside or like, eh, you know, we'll talk later. You did a great job. I was going to say, like, if it isn't work, the kid from Tajikistan has got

some chops on him acting wise. The whole thing was fantastic. I don't think it's a work. I think that's giving them too much credit. I think it organic and great but if it was a work if someone said in the back hey this is how we're going to introduce so and so do this i think that's actually a brilliant move and i'm and i'm uh almost i'm almost upset that i didn't think of this earlier do you agree with me though that if you're like a contender serious fighter you might be like fuck this guy like how did he get this opportunity? People get into the UFC in a million different ways.

I guess that's true. We don't know every story on how they get in. That's true. Fair enough. They get six-day notice fights. They get two weeks notice. They get three days notice. I'm just thinking of these guys who are also like 6-0, right?

And they go on contender series. And the dean is like, you need more season and kid. And then this guy is just like, hey, can I get a job? And they're like,ender series and the dana's like yeah you need more season and kid and then this guy's just like hey can i get a job and they're like yeah so the world isn't fair who's the middleweight the short middleweight that's been on contender series like lane right or whatever his name is yeah yeah uh yeah i mean he's got to be like damn i mean to to that point like dana's you know and again he could do whatever the hell he wants with his money but i'm just saying to this point like you see him giving $25,000 to this guy gambling, this guy in your fighter, and you're making 10 and 10. You're like, yo, what about me?

You know what I mean? Therese Finney is his name, by the way. I think you can play that game all day long. This is kind of cool, and I can assure you of this. Whenever that young man debuts, there's going to be a ton of eyeballs on him. Imagine he gets on a little street. Two wins, three wins. If he scores a knockout or something and he gets on the mic, it's a, you know,

I changed my life by shooting my shot. He's on a rocket ship, just like Santino Morello. We've also seen the Tajikistan fans are like diehard. We've seen Gawain Moforov. We've seen fighters from there have big-time support from their home country.

I love that. And it was a very busy morning. You guys didn't get into the Regis Progray thing, but I adored that as well, the Regis Progray Sam Jones clip that has gone viral as well. Did you guys see this? Have you seen this? I have seen this, and I will say Regis Progray has rocketed up my list of fighters that I adore. Oh my God.

In case you missed it, Regis Progre is at the press conference and Sam Jones is a very notable boxing manager. He's very Malkikawa circa 2012. He's very outspoken. He likes to be very pro wrestling-esque with his interviews and promos. They usually put him on the dais when his fighters fight. He is Jack Catterall's manager well apparently back in the day he was he was not jack catterall's manager and he was sort of flirting if you will on a business level with regis progray and regis pulled out an old voice note of sam saying to him that if

they fought regis would flatten jack catterall and and Regis set it up beautifully saying you said you think I would flatten your guy right he's like no way I would never say that and Sam even says hand to God I have never said that nor will I ever say that and then Regis pulls out the receipt of the voice note of him saying verbatim, you would flatten out or flatten Jack Catterall. And then it gets super awkward. And he's kind of owned up to it on social media. He said 10-7 round for Regis, but I wasn't his guy. And I got receipts on him as well.

I think it has upped the interest in this fight exponentially. He said in the clip, like, I've got some voice messages from you too. Yeah, yeah. Listen, the gloves are off. The gloves are off. So yes, all in all, I would say- All right, so what are we great, like how are we feeling?

Like improvements? I mean, I think GC took some of my criticisms to heart there, but I would say this is a vast improvement over last week's show. We're in week two and we're all striving to be better. Work in progress. Thumbs up to the chat in progress thumbs up to the chat thumbs up to the chat i saved that for the other show okay did you hear the intro music to the

members i thought the intro music was great actually i actually enjoyed why does it need the actually uh because i think i thought it was people unanimously like probably the the banger of the year did i misunderstand listen listen breaking the fourth wall uh we need some music around these parts and we're working we're efforting to get some music work in progress we're building the spaceship as it's flying in the air and that's not on us we're doing our part and uh you know we're gonna get some music but i think that you guys you workshop that as they say in the business frank right frank was taking my like i i was talking about the mics and frank was really got everyone's very sensitive and i

understand that everyone's working but you got very sensitive well you got very sensitive and it made me feel a little bit bad because when someone says your name and puts a period in the text that means they're upset so you said we get it ariel it was a we get it comma ariel period as passive-aggressive as it gets it was was even workshopped with Rick where I was like, should I send this? And he cracked up. He's like, yeah, let's do it. And then I'm surprised that you didn't get the humor in that.

No, I didn't. Talking about taking it seriously. We'll keep this in mind. We'll keep these remarks in mind. Oh, please. I mean, listen, it's your show. I'm just the guy back here Having a ginger We get it Ariel

Review On that It's very gingery It's very gingery That's my jam though Every sip is like Burning my throat Oh that's

That's what I want I was just crushing A ginger beer Before the show No free plugs By the way How do you do ginger beer It's

It's carbonated Oh I love it No no no I understand that But if i drink carbonated drinks of any kind before a show i burp it up all day oh no it's settled you're not burping right now no no no ginger has the opposite i absolutely love it ginger beer is my favorite drink but the carbonation is the problem i love carbonation wow ginger even if you drink a ginger ale it will settle your stomach it's the the opposite effect. Ginger's good.

I just think that when you talk and you have carbonated drinks, it makes you go... It sucks to be wrong sometimes. See, look, I mean, you know, the Lord giveth, the Lord taketh. I can take it on the chin. I'm very good at taking criticism. Should we talk more politics, or did we get that all out of the way?

No, no, no. We are not politicians here. Should we switch to the political did we get that all out of the way? No, no, no. You got that out of your head. We are not politicians here. Should we switch to the political branding? No, no. From voice to the back. No, I can't wait for the watch party. Frank has already raised his hand. Andy can't wait.

On Air Jordan and a bit on the fence. It's going to be great for you guys. I can't wait to watch. It's going to be great. It's going to be awesome. I'm definitely going to support. What else we got? You got any other hot takes?

Oh, yeah. I didn't actually get to my hot take. Please, yes. Get to it. Okay. I'm definitely going to support. What else we got? You got any other hot takes? Oh, yeah. I didn't actually get to my hot take. Please, yes. Get to it. Okay. I'm ready. You ready for it? Yeah.

You ready for it? We're waiting. Frank, breaking news. I don't often make strong predictions, but I feel very comfortable making said strong prediction. Clip it off. Put it on the poll. Clip it off.

Oh, wow. Put it in the chat. Clip it off. Oh, wow. Put it in the chat. Let the world know I don't care. Robert Whitaker is winning in decisive fashion on Saturday. Wow. Robert Whitaker is going to put on a master class. I feel it. I sense it.

I believe it was Ben Davis who said the aura is gone, and I don't know what it is, but I think the five rounds will be a a mistake and I think Robert Whitaker uh just appears to be switched on as they say you see his physique you see how he looks he's smart he's out there sparring with Jio Pataya this guy you think he's afraid of Hamza Chamayev now all respect for Hamza as a fighter uh I think he's uh incredible I don't think he has obviously lived up to the expectations that we all thought. But, you know, time is still on his side. I think fighting once a year is a problem.

Robert has been very active. I really fail to see. Is Hamza going to out-wrestle Robert Whitaker? Is he going to manhandle Robert Whitaker? Is he going to out-strike Robert Whitaker? As we stand here today, Hamza is the favorite, right? Sizable. Dog of the week, Robert Whitaker? Is he going to outstrike Robert Whitaker? As we stand here today, Hamza is the favorite, right? Sizable.

Dog of the week, Robert Whitaker. Plus 205, Robert Whitaker, dog of the week. H-Dow. H-Dow, wow. This is a real H-Dow. This is how confident you are. You're putting the H-Dow on the line. H-Dow, we haven't done it in a while,

but we all remember I was undefeated. Robert Whitaker is switched on. He is not intimidated half the battle when you're fighting hamza chamayev is the intimidation factor i think so this is like a mike tyson right if you can if you can not be intimidated and not defeat look at that man look at that man you see that him snarling bobby knuckles is ready and and and i i just i feel something when i see him talk this week and when i see his demeanor, I feel something crazy or not crazy. Okay.

Before we address the actual prediction itself, you'd never. Yeah. I just felt it. I had to put it out there. What has happened? You're just feeling something. I put it in our chat and I feel like I have to back it up publicly. Yeah, because when you put it in our chat yeah i said well you can just go triple

your money then yeah but i don't bet that's what i'm saying so this is almost like instead of the monetary you're you're putting the you're putting the reputation on the stake listen i want people to know that you know the boys in the back is a show where you get things that you don't get on the air but here you get a different version of me, all right? You get hair down, you get executive producer Helwani, you get ginger drink Helwani, and you get hot take predictions, all right? Hot take Helwani. So you got to tune in.

Here. Sorry, here we are. Robert Whitaker plus 205. Okay. You said decisively? Robert Whitaker by knockout? I don't know if it gets that. What about just finish?

Plus 275 is Robert Whitaker by knockout. What about decision? Robert Whitaker by decision. So you're saying he puts it on him late. Whitaker by decision. Plus 750. For real? Yeah, that's what I'm looking at. I think they're probably anticipating if Whitaker's going to win, he's going to finish Hamzat late, right?

That Hamzat's not going to be equipped for the five rounds. That's my read on that. I mean, who has the better gas tank? I would assume Whitaker. We'd have to assume. Yeah, I mean, look what happened against Kamaru Usman. Yeah. And even to a degree the Gilbert Burns fight.

Whitaker's gas tank is endless. That has never been in question. I remember the moment that I realized that Robert Whitaker was an incredibly well-rounded fighter. Do you remember when he fought someone named Colton Smith? Colton Smith, a former Ultimate Fighter. And he had this stance where he kept his i think it was he kept his left hand down the entire time and every time colton tried to shoot on him he was able to thwart his takedowns i don't think that he is going to fight the exact same way against hamzat hamzat is no colton smith

but man people were starting to tell alaskarov, he might catch him, you know. Oh, maybe this is the one. Nah. And obviously, Hamzat is way better than Laskarov and more advanced in his career, but I just sense something here. I sense it. Listen, the people have been asking for an HDAO. I've given you an HDAO. Do with it what you want, but that's my pick.

What is the chat saying? Are they with me or are they against me? Well, there is one super chat that I know we were going to get to later, but on-air Jordan was feeling that we should discuss this one now. Let's do it. Akilas Jr. has paid for a super chat to say, RFK 2028. Hmm, perfect.

All right. RFK. This is what you interrupted us with? Absolutely. Frank, you're getting too political and it's making everyone uncomfortable. You know what? That's what I like. I like the discomfort.

This is... Wait, why did you think that this was the appropriate time to drop this in? It sounded like it was Jordan. We were actually vibing. Jordan, why do you think? I mean, now you're starting to

spew your propaganda. Listen, man, he can't operate the video from the backbench as well. I mean, all sorts of places. Listen, Guy took a vacation a week on to the job. That's what I'm saying. You guys are being way too hard on Jordan. I will take responsibility.

I didn't know what was going on. I was just listening to the show. This is my fault. This is my fault because I wanted Jordan to be on air. I said, sit in my seat. My big mistake, I made a mistake, and it was not jordan's mistake it was my mistake i thought that he could capably do that i entrusted him to be able to do that wow i was just about to give you props for you know taking this uh on the on the i'm only kidding uh it is actually my

mistake because i did tell him to sit there and uh he is correct that it is harder to do that so uh i do i do take that on the chin. That is actually my fault. The RFK 2028 interjection, yeah, that one I can't take. That's not on me. I mean, that was a ludicrous interjection. I thought we were cooking right there. We are cooking. I think this is not going to happen.

I do not agree with you. Oh, wow. I think Hamzat is going to win i'm i'm fairly interesting confident like so you do think this is a ludicrous take i don't think it's ludicrous because i really think robert whittaker is like that dude and he like robert whittaker and max holloway are two guys that i think of in a very similar scenario which is that when Rob lost to Israel, everybody kind of wrote him off. It was like, Rob will never be back and fight for a title. And what's next for Rob? He's never going to do anything again. And they did the same thing to Max. And then you see that they get back to the

title because they are really just that damn good. And yes, this guy just had their number. That's what it is. I think of Robert in that class. Izzy is always going to be a bad matchup for him, but I really believe Robert Whitaker is the best of the best of the best of the best middleweights and will continue to be. So I respect Robert Whitaker a lot and think of him very highly, but I do think that Hamzat offers something to him that he will not be able to deal with and has not dealt with in that way before. You think Hamzat, you said Hamzat has not lived up to the hype. I agree with that to the point that I don't think he's gotten the shots to be able to in a fight with a guy like Kamaru Usman in whatever number fight that is for him. He's winning that fight. Same thing with Gilbert Burns, who I think, who I rate very highly. These

are really, really, really good fighters. And most people don't blow the doors off them, but he's won those fights early into his career he's continuing to now he seems to be appears to be according to him healthier better better nutrition better diet pharmacology i am confident that we will see the best version of hamza and i think the best version of hamza is a problem for everybody else yeah i don't like i are you what is the aura gone like just because he's a little bit more reserved and because he grew his hair out? No, the performance is,

like, he was killing everybody. Okay, I see what you're saying. Yes, because he went to close decisions with Gilbert Burns and Kamaru Usman. I still find those wins to be impressive.

Same. And also, I know he didn't get them, but he was this close from finishing both those guys in the first round. And then the conversation is this guy is unbeatable. Yeah.

Here's a funny thing about aura. And, you know, some might say you can only speak on it if you truly are able to pinpoint it. You either have it or you don't. It's just one of those things. You can either pinpoint it or you can't. And I just, I'm not feeling it. I'm not sensing it um so you know the kids the kids would back me up by the way uh shout out to oven who's been doing

an incredible job with all our graphics and youtube yes thumbnails and social thumbs and pictures and whatnot he just informed me that there is in fact a line on uh whether or not they will stand their point middle of the cage i'm talking about the main event here he actually told me that there is a line do you want to guess what it is what is the line that ilia will go to the center of the cage and point to it so according to this it's okay said line that they will square up in the middle of the octagon in the first 10 seconds of the fight my guess it has to be a takes two to tango situation. Yeah, it seems like they have to both. I think the line will be minus 150 that they do not. And then like, what is it?

Plus 120 or something coming back that they will. Yeah, plus 180 that they will. I was going to say, yeah, it's got to be plus 180. I don't think it's going to happen. Now, the question is if Ilya does it, but Max doesn't reciprocate, does that still count? I don't think so, no. No. I think that's what's going to happen. I think Ilya's going to go. Max is

not going to meet him. If it was just Ilya, I think the line would be minus 500, minus 600 because I think it's pretty certain Ilya will do it. I can't wait for Fight Feast. When's that premiering? Oh, you know, we're going to do it. We'll get there. All right. We'll get there. It's the first one of the new era. New production value, new

trinkets, new bells, new whistles. Not really. New production value. We're going to get better. We're going to get better as we go along. Working through the kinks. Working through it. We will get better. Thumbs up to the chat. In the chat? From the chat? To the chat. We're showing love.

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Our music How about this have we found our music Ant can we make a poll Have we found our music To about this have we found our music and can we can we make a poll have we yeah can we hold up to to whether or not we found our music but boys in the back honestly i can't tell if that's frank live doing it or not that's what makes it so great it's sort of like it's tough it's tough it is tough yeah it is tough speaking of tough the blessed ever shout out to max i uh i gotta lose the hoodie i okay are you dying here? I am much warmer than I anticipated being. I can feel the sweat.

I like it frosty. Maybe it's when he came in here and stood in. The worst part is I got a stupid shirt on under this. What is it? A Hawaiian shirt? Tiger face shirt. I thought maybe it was a Hawaiian tee, you know? Listen, man, I got it in the rotation.

When you least expect it, that's when it's going to come. Rick's like, oh, I got it here yesterday. I didn't even wash it. Yeah. You's when it's going to come. Rick's like, oh, I got it yesterday. I didn't even wash it. You got it yesterday? Yeah. That means you only bought it like two weeks ago. No. You're not part of the first one. That is incorrect, but

I do not want to tell you how long I waited to get it. Has Frank made his admission yet? That he hasn't bought it? Yeah. He never joined the team and no one's bought it. I went through the bank statement no one's bought it I went through the That's kind of sick I got it I ordered it the old fashioned way

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No listen I'm wearing it on the broadcast I don't know what more I could possibly do At this point No listen It's all good It's all good

Anyway I have a lot of work To do back here So you guys continue with the show. Can't wait for Fight Feast, and can't wait for the rest of the stuff that you guys are going to be talking about. Boys in the Back on Fire. The boys in the back are on fire. Oh, is this our new intro?

It was da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Hey, what are you up to for the rest of the day? Here, I got it. The boys in the back are on fire. You get political talk in the chat. You don't give any political talk That was you, bro No, no

I'm not the one talking about RFK Listen That was Achilles Jr. Notorious heel Achilles Jr. Thank you, Helwani Thumbs up to the boys in the back Appreciate you joining us, brother

Thank you for the breakdown Thank you for the hot take Thank you for the prediction We could use that Am I just gonna ride with you? Am I gonna ride the H-style with you? You were with me You're switching sides now Ariel, be careful with this door it will hit you on the way out if you're not

careful uh thank you to helwani for that gone yet yeah i think he's gone um frank's clapping he totally left the mic open so now we can grill him yeah look at this look at this just getting grilled up every single time. All right. I mean, can we just say, how about my little, I was like, I'm taking responsibility

and then I just completely disembowel Jordan on that? Jordan, we'll talk after the show, man. We'll talk after the show. I mean, these lies to put it on us that you can't play video from the back.

I get what he's saying, though. Okay. This is the perfect segue.riel with the hot take of all hot takes he called he clipped it out the bill simmons equivalent of like turn on the tiktok camera kyle uh he is picking uh robert whittaker to like destroy hamza it sounds like yeah man i mean that takes us to the to the co-main i mean perfect segue shout out to hawani uh i don't know about that man i just I just don't, I don't see a world where he destroys him.

I think the way that Robert Whittaker wins this fight is Hamzat comes out in Hamzat fashion. On fire. On fire. Yeah.

And essentially, Robert Whittaker has to fight through hell to get to the later rounds and then he starts taking over as we saw in the Corusmon fight. Like, Helwani is not off with that.

We have seen him wane, especially in the Gilbert Burns fight, that round two, round three was very close, but he was able to get fight like el oney is not off with that uh we have seen him wane uh especially in the gilbert burns fight that round two round three was very close um but he was able to get the victories in both of those albeit however you scored it uh i think four and five is when whittaker can really start taking over um but i just a i don't know if he if he makes it through the hell i don't know if he survives the storm and surviving that hums at hell is like it's the hell. I don't know if he survives the storm. Surviving that Hamzat hell is like, it's the oh, you just have to do that, then you can take over

in the later rounds. That is the hard part. He was so close to finishing Kamaru Usman if he had just kept punching. I watched a breakdown from Demetrius Johnson, shout out, where he's just like riding on Usman and he kept going for chokes and DJ's just like, if he just kept punching, he would have

just finished the fight. And he almost finished Gilbert Burns around one two and I know almost don't count in this sport uh but like if he gets those finishes and he's obviously he's still 13 and 0 it's just like this guy is unbeatable and no one's ever going to stop him I think he comes out on fire I I think he just is too much to handle if you go back and watch the DDP fight from about 15 months ago Robert Whitaker DDP that's essentially what Dp did he was just too much for him and he just steamrolled him and i think hamzat has the potential to do that here now if he weathers it if we're going into round three and hamzat's looking looking bleak on the on the stool and he's breathing heavy and whitaker's like all right it's time for me to get going you know live bet yeah if you uh

the odds would probably drastically shift at that point. Cause I think everybody's anticipating if this goes beyond two and a half, if this goes to three and it hits the fourth round, it's Whitaker's fight to lose at that point. I think everybody's kind of like anticipating and feeling, I just don't see how most people survive that first burst like it's just i get that gilbert burns and hamza and kamar usman did but even there like i'm not so convinced of the idea that like what kamar usman was saying about like if i had one more round i finish them i do like i'm not convinced that that hamza does this like get first of all these are the same things we used to say about ddp by the way like everybody forgets that but like this was the narrative around ddp yeah ddp's got around in them and

then it's over like we just don't know sometimes sometimes you round into your conditioning and you've been in there and now that you've been sitting in there with kamara usman and gilbert burns you've learned what the lesson is from that and it's not to come out like a house on fire maybe you control the aggression and ddp is somebody who I look at who has found a kind of found success in doing that. I'm also convinced that Hamzat is going to be in the best conditioning of his life. Like I think he has gotten to the point where he's not going to fight until he's ready to fight. I think there's times where he probably, because of not wanting to lose that momentum fought, I think he will actually be in his peak physical shape. And that is going to be a real skill set for skill set. I think Hamzat's like the guy, like if, if he locks his hands, if he gets you, if he gets a hold of you, there's really not guys who are better than him in terms of turning that into a finishing position like once he's there it's really tough um for somebody to survive i just believe that he will have rob in that position relatively quickly i mean freakish strength yeah insane ground game has knockout

power can submit you like he he is the total package and i agree with you if he's healthy and he's in the shape that he's saying he's in. He's saying that this is it. Like this is the best he's ever been at. And until we see otherwise, I guess I'm just going to- Do you buy that? Do you feel like that's BS? Do you feel like maybe he's the same as before? Like what do you make of that? He looks different, bro.

He looks, I mean, he's talking about he's gotten over depression. I mean, he is growing the hair out. I don't know if he's going to shave that before the fight or not. He seems much more reserved. Like- The thing he went through with covid seemed to during the covid time seemed to have taken a lot out of him physically and he's talked about that the further we get away from that food

poisoning he had some kind of actual like surgery surgery different illnesses uh his child is having to get surgeries uh there's a lot going on but the further we get from those periods the better I think he will perform and even in those times he's beating Kamaru Usman and Gilbert Burns like people view wins over those guys as losses because of how high

the hype was for him right like they're looking at it as like he lost he won those fights but because the expectations were ramped so high because of the initial performances those almost felt like losses i don't view them as losses i view those as wins over elite elite welterweights and so i think we will get the hams out that we're used to seeing and and i really don't pick a lot of guys against that hams out there's not many out there that i would pick i still think it's going to be a great fight, though. These top two fights are just like,

they're just so good, man. And I'll be rooting for Whitaker just because it's impossible to root against him. He's just such a good dude. So I can't wait for it, man. I mean, it's another just like five stars.

These two, for me, are like cream of the crop, creme de la creme. Like, I am dying for these two. Creme de la creme. You said it perfectly. And we're going to be watching it on Saturday.

And you can watch it with us on Saturday night. Watch party, baby. Watch party. 145 Eastern. We'll be right here. We'll be in some loungers. We'll be chilling. But you'll get to watch the entire main card with us.

And let's get into the rest of the main card. Let's move quickly. We spend a lot of time because those are the deep ones. Those are the deep dive worthy ones. But Magomed Ankaleev is fighting in a fight that is not for the title a lot of people thought he was going to be instead it was khalil roundtree who got that shot now here you go magomed you're gonna have to take on number five alexander rakic who uh you know lost to yuri last time out was looking good until a flurry by yuri

gets it done for him and then you know was having success against jan blachowicz until a very serious injury occurred in the i believe it was in the third round um so I don't know if this is a number one contender fight I don't know if uh Rokic is guaranteed the title but it's it's definitely a title eliminator fight for Magomed Ankalayev because if he does not get this done he ain't getting a shot at the title you have to assume that it's a number one contender fight but to your point like I'm not even convinced it's a number one contender fight but to your point like i'm not even convinced it's a number one contender fight for uncle i have like you're saying you're not sure it's for rockets i'm not even sure it's one for uncle i have if he wins they could still to me all right here's what i will say to me i think if magomed uncle i have wins this fight he has to take the ball route of

i'm not fighting again until it's for the title yeah i mean good luck with that that's uh that's a risky road i mean, all set for 15 months until he got to fight Leon, but like you, you can't be Magomed on Goliath and fight a title

fight and you got to draw and now he will have had two wins since then. It's just like, dude, you got to give me, and it's not like

there's this, like, he's like at the back of the line or anything. He is the front of the line. So I think,

I think with a win, sure. Do you think there's any chance that like, I mean, all of the pressure is on him. I don't think he would get skipped. I don't think he would get skipped, but I don't know if Alex Pereira fights him instead of going somewhere else.

What I was going to ask, if he like wins by like a boring decision and it's just like kind of ho-hum, wins like 4-1, just not that exciting, do you think that affects it? Yes. I think Alex Pereira will be less inclined

to fight him. You know what I want to say? I think all the pressure is on Magomed Onkolaev. Rakic obviously lost his last two fights, one via injury, the other, you know, just a hard fight against Yuri Prohoshkin. Now, if he loses here, you know, like it's not like he's, this is, this is make or break for him. He's still young in his career. Obviously he wants the win, but everything to me, all the pressure falls on Magomed Onkolaev's shoulders. And dude, I think despite the odds, minus 380 Magomed Onkolaev plus 310 Alexander Rakesh. I think Alexander Rakesh is incredibly live in this fight. I think when he's healthy, he's one of the best light heavyweights in the

world. Are you saying as a dog he's live? Or if I give you a coin flip, where do you lean? Coin flip, I probably lean coin flip i probably lean maga met on khalif but at these odds odds i'm i am playing alexander rockets we'll get into that later uh but like i i really do rate him as one of the best light heavyweights in the world when when he is healthy he is i kind of look at this as like a bit of a mirror fight right like i think both guys are are very capable on feet. Both have knockout power. But, and both are, Magomed, I think has kind of weirdly gotten his reputation

as like a grinder when he's not really a grinder. Like he's a very capable grappler and uses it when he needs to. But he's also like pretty comfortable on the feet and has won most of his fights. Like Dagestan and being named Magomed might- Yeah, I think people are kind of like thinking that he's like because he's been kept away from alex perrera seemingly i think people are thinking like he's this like khabib yeah guy coming in

for alex he's a competent striker it's not how it is he's not that guy um and i think of rockets in the same way like we've seen a lot of rockets wins where it's especially like uh i believe anthony smith where he just took him down and was trying to grapple with him and dominated that fight but they they remind me of each other in the sense that like they tend to pick one or the other and that is the way the fight goes they don't really mix them a lot it's kind of like this fight i'm gonna grapple this fight i'm gonna strike and they tend to stay in those lanes um when they're when they're in that mode and i think of them both in that regard so i'm going to be curious to see like what approach each of them takes are they primarily trying to strike yeah or are they primarily trying to grapple or is one or the other switching the game plan that's

going to be fascinating to me but i do think if it's skill for skill i think magamit is just a little sharper in each area on the grappling i think he's a little bit stronger i think he's a little bit better there on the striking i think he's a little bit faster like it's it's it's a weird maybe not faster faster is probably not it um i just think he's going to be more effective um but rockets man like he's easy to like he loses in a way that makes it like uh dramatic and people then people think like ah it's it's over but like he's a very skilled offensive fighter i'm i'm i'm a believer that in the right circumstances he can beat anybody on any night and so this could be that night especially when you're getting a dog price

like you're talking about on him i think that's a super live um thing coin flip wise though i do give the edge to magomed and think he'll find a way to kind of win this fight it's gonna be a great one man more more answers to questions that we have uh this time when it comes to the light heavyweight division do you think this will be boring though there's a chance that it is but i don't think it will be i i agree with you i think there's a chance but i don't lean that way like i don't think like ah this is gonna be boring yeah magomed somehow got that rap and i don't know why he's not he's not boring yeah uh can't wait for that one let's keep it rolling on the main card larone murphy undefeated there is four undefeated fighters fighting on this main card six on the card in total taking on dan eagay uh my first question

in this one does it feel like dan eagay is getting done a little bit dirty he steps in on hours notice uh to fight Diego Lopez. Gets essentially promised from Dana White. You'll get the rematch at the sphere card. Diego Lopez fights Brian Ortega at the sphere instead. Now you need to fly to Abu Dhabi and take on our undefeated Lerone Murphy instead. Yeah, physical specimen who shows no signs of of really like stopping um i don't know if he's getting done dirty just because i think this is still great spot you're on the main card

of one of the biggest pay-per-views of the year but also you're dan ige like what else would dan ige be doing other than taking the toughest possible fights like how far can i fly from home actually forget going to the sphere how far can i fly away we have we have a number of fighters we can call the toughest possible fight you can take call number one always danny gay and this is that fight like i i am siding with larone murphy here i think larone's gonna be able to get it done i just think like physical specimen like he's going to he's going to be too big he's going to be too strong the striking is on point it's it's going to be a setting for Dan. Do I think there's a world where maybe he's just busier and can kind of win that fight?

I do maybe, but I just see ultimately Lerone having more success. I don't think Dan's going to be able to threaten him enough with the power that Lerone's going to not be able to get what he wants. But man, he's Dan Ige. Like he's the toughest dude who's ever lived. Like it's just, this is the fight that Dan Ige takes. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. I think Lerone Murphy probably gets it done by decision.

That performance he had against Edson Barbosa was just a thing. Flawless. Yeah, it was a thing of beauty. And I think he's probably just coming into his own of this elite level. He's a real contender in my eyes. He can approach. Should be a great fight. Yeah.

Like you said, Dan danny gate tough as they come like you just you don't get as tough as danny gates it's just something ridiculous and it's not as if larone murphy is like the most lethal finisher we've ever seen so i feel like this goes 15 minutes i think it's a really fun scrap uh and i'm gonna have you know official prediction larone murphy getting his hand raised last one on the main card, Sharabullet, another undefeated guy going up against Armin Petrosian. This will now be fourth fight in 365. We saw Sharabullet debut last year on UFC 294 in Abu Dhabi. He's kind of lucked out. He exclusively fights in the Middle East, but he's gotten Abu Dhabi last year, Abu Dhabi this year, Abu Dhabi in August, and Saudi Arabia back in June.

Trying to go 4-0 would be a wonderful start. He's obviously got the look. He's sort of becoming a rising star within the promotion, filming a movie in Los Angeles, the one eye, everything about him. He's got aura. He's got aura, as they say. And if he can get this done man move to 15 and 0 4 and 0 in the ufc in one year like maybe we start talking about getting him a ranked matchup like there's there's intrigue when it comes to this he's he's got all he's got the package he's the complete package in the way that you described but i will admit i have not had my mind blown by him i was just about to say he like he he hasn't had that moment yet where i'm like

yeah this dude is a future champ this dude is an absolute stud like he's been winning but it hasn't been in like emphatic like wow this dude has it type fashion yeah i've i've i mentioned a mirror match earlier when i was talking about rakic and and uncle ivan i and i feel similarly about this one in that like look you, you got Muay Thai fighters who are just going to like try to strike against each other. And I tend to just give the edge here to Shara. Like I think he is faster.

He is going to be the sharper striker in my opinion. But like, I feel like Armin does good work and like will have his opportunities to do the same thing. I don't, like, I think of this fight as nearly as even as you could possibly go, basically. And if you're going to give me a little bit of an edge on Armin, I guess I lean that way if you're giving it to me. Coin flip-wise, I really don't know which way to go.

I think this is really whoever gets it first. Yeah, dude, I think it's a super close fight, man. I mean, the Adolfo Vieira fight for Armin, he didn't look great. Obviously, he got dumped down and finished in the first round. That's not really his strengths, but the fight before that against CLD, which I think is going to be very similar to this fight. He had a lot of success and against the guy that had a reach advantage on him that was taller than him, that, that Magomed, or I mean that Shara is not going to have against them. I think Armin's live to win this, man. I think it's going to be a really close fight. I'm looking forward to it.

And I'm curious to see if Shara Bullock can pass the test or Armin can upset him. Yeah. What happens if Shara Bullock gets by on just like another decision? Yeah, man. Does it hurt any? To me, I feel like at that point, it's just like, all right, man, let's throw him a ranked matchup and like see if he can really swim with the fishes. Yeah. Maybe the expectations adjust a little bit.

Maybe he's not that guy who's coming in and just starching everybody, but still can be a very successful kind of guy. For sure. I think the look and I think the record coming in, everyone was just like, oh, this dude's just going to flatline everybody's faces. But it feels like he's more technical and putting him up against a legit grappler, too, would be a nice move. I don't know if he's ready for that but i i guess we'll have to find out at some point exactly that's the point um that's the main card you can obviously watch that with us on saturday we'll watch all five of those fights right here 145 eastern uh the prelims i mean like there's some names on these prelims

dude before we get to the prelims yeah like i'm not dogging you for wearing that's a funny pun for wearing the tiger t-shirt. Okay. I actually like it. Okay. But then I was like, wait a minute, but Connor doesn't like cats. Yeah, hate cats. Hate cats.

All right. So now, like, I feel a nosebleed coming on because I'm just confused. Hate cats because I'm allergic to them. Okay. I would fight through being allergic to be around a tiger. I'm not going to fight through the allergies to go to your house to be around your house cat that sits there and judges me. M31? All right.

So I'd actually be judging him because his name is M31. All right. Go into the prelims. I'm done with you. Prelims. I'm also allergic to cats. Yeah. I'm like severely allergic.

Like I get itchy, puffy face, red eyes, all of the above. Prelims. The one that stands out touffy face, red eyes, all of the above. Um, prelims, the one that stands out to me most, Jeff Neal, RDA. Yeah. RDA birthday boy on Saturday,

turning 40, going up to welterweight. I know, I know he obviously kind of like, yeah, he sort of skips ropes between one 55 and one 70. Uh, happy birthday. Here's Jeff Neal.

Yeah. A fighter. That's going to be bigger than you, probably stronger than you, reach advantage, younger. I don't love this matchup for him.

I don't either, but it feels like an RDA fight, which is like, he fights every single contender. If you haven't fought RDA, I don't know if you're

actually in the weight class, basically. And what weight class is that? 55 or 70. 55 or 70, like where are we at? If you never fought him, you probably don't exist.

He fights every single person that is on the rise in all of those weight classes. And so, yeah, it's Jeff Neal's turn to fight RDA. And like, can you talk about just like how game RDA is? Another like Ige, where it's just like, yep, down, done. Jeff Neal as well, dude. Jeff Neal is just down for a scrap. Shovkat, sure sure sign me up like

let's let's do it like he's just he's game for it ian gary yep yeah let's do it i'm down for it and bro not for nothing like gave shop caught a fight yeah fought very admirable gary a fight too man yeah put decision loss i believe i i lean with you i i think this is jeff's fight to lose um the path to victory for rda i would assume is just to make it dirty right kind of try and split decision loss, I believe. I lean with you. I think this is Jeff's fight to lose. The path to victory for RDA, I would assume is just to make it dirty, right? Kind of try and force them up against the cage, maybe try to work some takedowns, figure out a way to get it outside of the striking realm. If it's happening in space, I mean, I just don't see how RDA can win this fight. Jeff's going to be the longer and better striker. So I don't know how he gets it done if that's where it plays out.

Another great scrap that you actually was like, I don't know about these odds, is Mouthebek Oralby taking on Mateusz Rebecki. 19-2 versus 13-1-1. Both these guys we've seen have success at the UFC level. Like, is it just people thinking Oralby is just like the dude? Oralby is getting some steam behind him, but man, like when I saw the odds, I was like,

Rebecki is, what is he like two and a half? Minus 305 plus 255 Rebecki. Yeah, so he's plus 250. I don't know, man. He's been impressive to me. Like to the point that I'm like, I can't believe this guy is at that price. Now, I do, I am not like saying like the oral by hype

is undeserved. Like the guy looks the part, right? Like he, he, I believe that he is, he is going to be a thing, but man, Rebecca has a way of like making good people not look good. And I, I don't know. I feel like that's a live one. I would probably, I'm, I don't think I'm going anywhere near it, but Rebecca's good, man. than plus 250 in my in my opinion the value is on that side in my opinion yeah uh one other one that that we have to talk about kennedy inzuchukwu versus chris barnett i mean potential fight of the night here my guy chris barnett uh plus 500 underdog. Outsized, outmanned in this one. Kennedy, 6'5". Chris Barnett, 5'9".

The one who has competed at heavyweight. I was going to say, the craziest part is this is Kennedy's heavyweight debut at the UFC level. Another crazy part about this, Kennedy is minus 900 in the UFC bout, which is mind-blowing to see. Uh, Chris Barnett, 75-inch reach. Kennedy, 83-inch reach. I mean, this thing is going to look insane in here. Like, this is going to look absolutely insane.

My dad is 6'6". I'm 6'1", and he towers over me, and I would have four inches on Chris Barnett. Um, shout out to Chris Barnett, though. Fights out of Athens, Georgia. Uh, respect. I didn't know that. He actually went to a Georgia basketball game and hyped up the crowd. Oh, I love that. Shout out to Chris Barnett.

But yeah, man, we haven't seen Chris Barnett in two years. He's had four canceled bouts in between. He's 38 now. Every time he won, it was kind of like he had to out-dog the dude. This is a tough matchup. It's going to look ridiculous. Let's be honest ridiculous i i hate to say it i feel like kennedy probably just uses the size like the size is just gonna

be too much to get over for chris barnett i'm gonna love seeing the the weigh-in face off of that one so good plus i pray chris barnett dances that octagon like he doesn't have a worry in the world that he's not about to fight a man that is just wildly larger than him he's he's one of the most fun guys in the ufc i'm glad to see him back uh briefly ebo oslin hafeel sequera that's just gonna be a fun fight just because they i mean style wise oslin has 13 wins and they're all by knockout uh hafeel like almost all his wins are by finish as well there's abis magameda if you remember he was fighting sean strickland oh yeah, yeah. It was another year ago. Like 15 months ago, the dude's fighting for like a...

I think he's favored over Sean Strickland. Favored. Like minus 125. But like, yes, like a title can... Like it's just like, this guy might be the next guy.

Bruno Fajero, that should be a banger matchup. Free Boshrod, like a minus 650 against Victor Hugo. Don't really know about that. It's a lot of juice. And then Carlos Leal

coming over from PFL, LFA, fighting Rinov Fakhrudinov. That's a tough matchup to kick off with. But shout out. I mean, dude, it's a fantastic card. It's just like they know what they're doing when it comes to Abu Dhabi. They stack it tall.

They stack it high. It's going to be fantastic. I can't wait for it. Again, you can watch with us Saturday, 145, right here on this very YouTube channel. We'll be sitting in not those seats, but we'll be sitting in some, you know, we'll be chilling. We'll be sitting in some lounges. Frank's never looked better than on that graphic. Frank has never looked better.

My dermatologist says I just have to do the cream like twice a day now. Is it clearing up? It is clearing up. Okay. It's clearing up. All right. UFC 308 coming this weekend and we haven't done one of these since UFC 302 back in Newark.

Fight Feast returns finally. This time, should I tell them or should we just let the video do the talking? Yeah, let them see it. Let the video do the talking. All right. UFC 308, Fight Feasts. World premiere. From the formatted for a phone, turn it on the side.

We are now YouTube formatted. The debut of Fight Feast Episode 11. Let's go. All right, it is UFC 308 Fight Week. A lot of options to choose from for a fight feast. Middle Eastern food, Spanish food, but the blessed is best. Max Bless Holloway trying to get his belt back at UFC 308. It's a beautiful day here in Manhattan. It is popping. The streets are alive, but we're here

to get some Hawaiian food at Norita. Fight Feast episode 11. We're back, baby. We're back. All right, let's dive right into this feast or, you know, I guess this could be considered a luau. Started off with some poke, standard stuff raw tuna marinade this one had some pickled onions pickled jalapenos macadamia nuts uh i mean really good stuff great way to kick it off all right next up we did the pipi kala this was dry aged hawaiian beef jerky pan fried served with a side of kimchi mayo uh this one was incredible i mean you gotta load up a bite you gotta get the pickled onions on there get the beef and then you take a big old dunk like your name shaquille o'neal and that kimchi mayo it's unbelievable man tender beef

the dipping sauce is amazing one of the best dishes we had of the day i immediately had to go in for a second bite all right onto, on to the Spam Musubi. This is grilled Spam on a bed of rice wrapped in nori, which is seaweed. It's like all the good parts of sushi, but you're throwing some hot canned meat on there. I don't want to throw shade, but, you know, maybe next time I'll do tuna or something like that. It was all right. I got a dunk in the kimchi mayo. That definitely made it better.

Didn't hate it. Didn't love it. Next time, I'll do something other than spam. All right, we go to the Chicken Loco Moco. This place's take on the classic loco moco that usually has hamburger on it. You got chicken katsu on a bed of rice topped with gravy, a fried egg. So many good flavors going on. I mean, super savory.

You had to dig, man. You had to go for the chicken. You had to get some egg in there. I knew I was biting off more than I could chew. Massive bite, but you got to keep going. You got to fight through it. You got to get to the rice. Make sure you're getting all the proper flavors in there.

I mean, I'm really just struggling here. Come on, shovel it in there. And then you got to keep going. You got to find the Mac salad. There it is. Chicken loco moco, the gift that keeps on giving. Didn't love that the Mac salad had gotten hot from the other foods, but me and Frankie got a couple to go. Ate them chilled later. 10 out of 10. On to the desserts. First up, the brulee to pineapple. I mean, you got to do pineapple if you're going to do Hawaii, right? And I already love pineapples as it is. And now you're going to throw some sugar on it.

You're going to get that glassy finish of the brulee, the crunch and everything. They just plop this whole thing down for the table and just say enjoy. And I mean, that's exactly what I did. There's nothing to dislike about this dish. It just transports you to a tropical paradise. Finished it off. Dessert number two, a chocolate haupia sundae. This is chocolate coconut pudding served with coconut ice cream topped with whipped cream, graham crackers, almonds, black Hawaiian salt. This was the best thing I ate. I could have eaten two of them. The textures of the haupia and

the ice cream, you get the crunch of the graham crackers with the touch of ate. I could have eaten two of them. The textures of the hau piya and the ice cream. You get the crunch of the graham crackers with a touch of salt. I mean, it was just fantastic. All in all, they say the blessed is best. And I tend to believe that. The food from Hawaii is also the best. All right, Feist Feast 1 in the can. It was pretty good.

You came with me. Frank came with me as well. Hawaiian food. I'm giving it an official seal of approval. You're a Hawaii guy. You have family out there. You've been several times. You were a little bit like, this isn't the island.

It was close. It was close. You had a reaction to them serving chicken loco moco instead of loco moco. I needed the real. I looked at the chat for 0.5 seconds, and the first thing I saw was someone just being like, chicken loco moco. Absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Frank also had the same reaction.

Like, you know, we need the beef. We need the meat. Yeah. But it was good. The chicken was good. It was good. It was surprisingly good. But I honestly, when you said they only have chicken on the menu, I was like, what are we doing?

We're kind of working with what we got here in New York City. But overall. Solid spot. I would recommend. The musubi was pretty good. Getting to try that. I mean, the desserts were amazing. Incredible.

The desserts were amazing. Also, the pipicala, the jerky. That was very good. That stuff was amazing with the kimchi mayo and everything. Yeah, it was a great time. I thoroughly enjoyed it uh didn't expect it to be that good honestly and honestly whenever i thought of like hawaiian food i really just thought like poke and yeah pineapples i i wasn't aware of like how many things i had max i didn't know max salad was such a thing that's the key the plate lunch which includes the mac salad i kind of started talking about the mac salad so we got there then you know they had the warm food on top of it so i was like

and this is still not it but when we decided to get them to go oh dude when they were i was when the mac salad was chilled it really was fantastic yeah we we we rate that one pretty highly that was good uh and hopefully we'll just continue to get better you know maybe get some fancy cameras because we walked in there and it was kind of dark. Frank's holding the light on me. Rick's filming. We're sitting right next to people. I guess we didn't get them to sign NDAs.

No, no, I did. I went back over there. Good stuff, Frank. So yeah, we're back. Working out the kinks, as they say. Day two, we'll be better. Next up, our turf, right? New York.

I mean, what are we going to do? Bacon, egg, and cheese. What do we got? Bacon, we'll be better. Next up, our turf, right? New York. I mean, what are we going to do? Bacon, egg, and cheese. What do we got? Bacon, egg, and cheese. I mean, we could do a pizza tour. A hot dog stand.

Pizza shop tour. Or do we do something related to the fighters? Who knows? We'll see. I guess who would it be? Jon Jones, Steve Miochic?

Yeah, maybe some New Mexican like green chili. Yeah, green chili. Shut up. But yeah, I did have a lot of fun doing that.

And yeah, it's good to be back. It's fun to, you know, scratch that creative itch, do something fun around the food. You know what else is back? What's back? The woman standing right over your shoulder, always watching. The one, the only, the bantamweight champion of the world,

Juliana Pena. If we could go to Rick's camera here just briefly. There she is with her belt. Juliana Pena has sent in a pic, which means the Parley pals are officially back. Oh yeah. You want to throw the Wait, are we the boys or the pals? Please stop. Bless me. She has taken the over

in the Dan Ige, Lerone Murphy fight over two and a half in that one. So Frank, if you could do the honors for the first time in two and a half months, we hit the randomizer. There it is. Frank, you'll kick us off. All right.

I'll go second and Rick will go third. Yeah, well, you know what? He may not have won since 2022, but my man Jeff Neal is going to get it done on Saturday. I'm taking him money line. Hands of steel. Move to the front, by the way. Was that his last win against Vicente Luque, huh? That's what I remember.

It looks dark back in that control room. Yeah, we like it like that. Except for the drink that Ariel left there. Other than that. All right. Yeah. He also left his mic unlatched. Shout out to Faux Pot.

Faux Pot. He really knows how to diss him, but not, you know. That's a pro's pro right there. That is a pro's pro. All right, so you are in with Jeff Neal. I am going to take one Abus Magomedov.

Yeah, I like this matchup for him. I think he can just use his complete game, mix in the grappling, have success, and I actually think he's live for a finish in this one against Bruno Ferreira.

So I will go Abus Magomedov minus 142 right now. I like it. I like it. I'm going to go against Ariel here. Wow. Wow. Directly against the H-Town. You're just going to go with Hamzat Shemayev.

You know, I got faith in Hamzat. I think this is his matchup. I want to root for Rob Whitaker because I want to root for Rob Whittaker because I want to root for Rob Whittaker in life and just in all scenarios, but I think in the fight realm, this is Hamzat's. I think he's going to come in the best he's looked

and if you're facing the best Hamzat, that's a real problem. That leads us to the final parlay as you can see on the screen here. I'm taking Abus Magomedov. Frank taking Jeff Neal. Rick taking Hamzat Shemaev. Juliana taking Ige Murphy, over two and a half.

And look at that, the respect for it. I get the full Abus Magomedov name in there. Jeff Neal shortened to Just. Just Neal. I love it. I just shorthanded to make it easier for Jordan. No, respect. Respect.

That's plus 292. So the boys are officially back in town. There is more than one Megan Adolph, right? There is. There is more than one. I think. Yes, there is. There is.

Great call. I mean, that's why producers. He's the best in the biz. Producers for an air. On air Jordan. On air Jordan. Can we go ahead and play that video from earlier? What video? Yeah, exactly. Oh, you're saying us trying to get the video to play. Hey, can we go ahead and play that video from earlier? What video?

Yeah, exactly. Oh, you're saying us trying to get the video to play. No, no, no. I think he was asking Jordan to play a video, and he was just, he knew it wasn't going to play. Oh, wow. He's in the back bench again. Oh, yeah. Man, Jordan really getting rung out here.

No, he told everyone, he was like, I've been benched. What do you want me to do? Been benched. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. All right, quickly, I'll run through my bets. I got five bets of my own this weekend that we can do. I think it's lose the pineapple sunglasses.

I kind of look like Elton John here. I'm getting those vibes. Yeah, heavy Elton John vibes. The sunglasses don't go too great with the bald head. But all right, let's dive in. First up, single, the one i just took in the uh in the parlay pals avis magomedov uh i will be taking him just on the money line i i really do i think this is a favorable matchup for him i think he can mix in the takedowns use his complete

game plan and get this one done next up i hinted at it during the preview, Alexander Rokic, money line. It's just the line is off to me. The line is off. I'm sorry. I really do. I think Rokic is one of, I mean, he's ranked fifth. He's a top five light heavyweight in the world, especially when he's healthy. And if you watch that training footage of him and Soldich up in the mountains, I think he is healthy. I think this is going to be a very close fight. And in a very close fight, I'm going to take the plus 310 dog. And then last but not least, this one available right now on DK, Max Holloway, plus 13 and a half. They have an alternate point spread total that you can take, plus 13 and a half. So essentially he just has to win one round in this.

Obviously you are betting against an Ilya finish. But like I said, I think this is going to be close. I think the chin holds up. Uh, and I think we probably go to the judges scorecards here. Obviously a max, a max finish wins. It is a five round fight, but yeah, the way that this works, when you add up all the judges scorecards, you know, say it's, if it's 48, 47 on three judges scorecards, that's a three point differential. If it's 49, 46 on three judges' scorecards, that's a three-point differential. If it's 49-46 on three judges' scorecards, that's a nine-point differential, for example. So plus 13.5. If it's 49-46, that's only nine. If it's 50-45 on one judges' scorecard and 49-46 on two judges' scorecard, that's 13, and I win.

I mean, we just got to get one round, and with the volume that he puts out, I believe that he can get. Or if he wins by decision, or if he finishes, this still catches. You basically need Ilya to not allow Max to win a round or to finish him. Outside of that scenario, this is a winning bet. And then just two quick parlays for you. Jeff Neal and Renat Fakhreddinov. Yeah, I just like the matchup for Jeff Neal. And Renat getting Carlos Leal as his UFC debut is just tough.

I think he's going to be able to use the grappling, just do that relentless pressure, take down after take down, get it done. And then a prop parlay, Aslan Serguera under two and a half in Nzuchukwu-Barnett fight doesn't go to a decision, and then Murphy Igege over 1.5 That pays out at minus 125

And those are the picks 5 bets for me I might add in Armin I might have talked myself then To taking Armin over Sharaboy I mean again I think it's a 50-50 And if you're getting dog money you might as well right Yeah and I think I'm getting like plus 1.6 on him now

So that might be the last one that I add. Can't wait for this card this weekend though. And before we go, we'd like to debut a brand new segment. Am I doing this right on air, Jordan?

Brand new segment. It is the pound for pound rankings. I was trying to do this smoothly. I'm just going to... Wait, what's he doing? I love that. It is the pound for pound rankings. They're hot in the streets these days.

Yes. Is John Jones number one? Is it Islam? Is it Islam? Yeah. Hot in these streets is the pound for pound rankings. But the good news is we're not going to be pound for pound ranking fighters. No.

We're just going to be taking it from the ether, the culture of the world. And right now, late October, spooky season. You want to get cozy. You want to watch a movie. Pound for pound rankings, Halloween movies. I love it. This is my wheelhouse.

So what we're going to do, each of us, Rick, me, Frank, top five pound for pound rankings, Halloween movies. And the way that I'm interpreting this is like spooky season, what gets you in the mood, the fall, the Halloween season, what gets you hyped the most that you're almost guaranteed to watch when late October rolls around? Yeah. I'm glad you set it up that way because I was conceptualizing, like I'm a huge horror film guy. So there's a lot of scary movies. There's a lot of slasher movies. There's a lot of paranormal movies that I'm just going to watch year round, right? Like I'm just turning it on. Last week I recommended The Descent, which is like my

S tier, top tier, best of the best. But it's not on this list because this list to me is about the October, the spooky season, these things that kind of like when I was a kid scared me and that were regular runs on TV or via DVD at that time. I'm old. Maybe even VHS during October. So that's the genesis of this. It is not... Look at this graphic package.

Shout out, Jordan. That's great. This is great. So to be clear, this is not like my scariest movies. This is not my favorite movies. This is just my spooky season list. You're going to watch this almost every October. Comfort.

Yes, exactly. So you've got mailers on there? Let's go to number one first Oh you're going You're giving your number one away Oh you gotta go five to one Sorry we're going reverse You gotta go five to one

Okay O-A-J is not happy with you Okay Does that mess up the graphics On Air Jordan On Air Jordan Go five to one Five to one

It has to be five to one You can't just give away Am I going all five of mine Or are we going five Five five Okay we're gonna go all five Okay we're going all five each We're not going our fifths each

Yeah All five to one And then and then we move on okay okay this is interesting my vote was you know we go five guys we're at no no we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna start at five here we go halloween i mean you have to you have to start with a you have to start with a class halloween at five oh that's a good one i haven't heard of that one before frank um is my list or your this isn't about a shtick about being a hipster, man. This is about the movies that you enjoy. We're pound for pound ranking them. It had to be on here. It's not my

favorite of the slasher films. I'm more of a Freddy guy. I'm more of a Chucky Child's Play guy. Even more of a Jason guy, if I'm being honest. Michael Myers might be last, but Halloween is such an essential October spooky season movie, and also it is top, top, top tier. So Halloween had to be on there.

Next, this is a little bit of a departure. I don't know if you would have thought I'd go this way. Okay. Idle Hands. Idle Hands. I've never even heard of it. Oh, we can editorialize these. Okay.

Frank, is this? I said I haven't heard of Halloween. He says he hasn't heard of Idle Hands. I'm just saying. Who hasn't heard of Halloween? Yeah says he hasn't heard of Idle Hands. I'm just saying. Who hasn't heard of Halloween? Yeah, see, there's a difference here. Anyway, let's just quickly, if you have not heard of Idle Hands,

like my co-host GC, teen movie in a horror setting. That is the best way to describe it. I'm seeing pictures of it. It's great. It stars my boy, Devin Sawa. Shout out to Devin, who's incredible. Seth Green, too. It could have been on this list for final destination another one of my top top top tiers

but not the not the right list for that um jessica alba like great movie funny movie uh halloween theme this had to be on there for me comedy horror but really good next up the blair witch project okay I like that I like that the Blair Witch Project this one is like when I was a kid and the trailer came out for this I couldn't sleep and I have been desensitized to horror movies since I was a baby like I grew up watching slasher films this one got me the trailer for this and so it holds a very special place when I get the opportunity to watch it it means something to me does it try to scare you at all it's does not scare me in the sense that like i know how the story plays out so well now but the ability to set tone the ability to set atmosphere

the fact that they plopped people in and just had them react to stuff it's all genuine it really still touches those i've actually i've never seen it it's it's it's a it's a tough one to get through without getting some creepy crawls oh i love it yeah i love it man um it's a tough one to get through without getting some creepy crawler oh i love it yeah i love it man um it's not a jump scare movie as much maybe by the end but it's more of a vibes and atmosphere and you feel that kind of crushing sense of dread i was gonna say i uh i don't like i don't scare like really easily i don't love horror movies what the hell's that thing on your head but i don't know if i could do uh i don't know if I could do like Blair Witch at night by myself.

This is not that one to do. I would want to do it like with a couple of people. You might want the lights on. You might want some people around. Incredible. Classic movie. Next one. The Ring.

Ooh, The Ring. The Ring, but slash Ringu. And I'll explain in a second. So The Ring, incredible movie. Another one, when the trailer came out for this, I was like. When I was a kid, this movie when the trailer came out for this, I was like... When I was a kid, this movie scared the living shit out of me, dude. It was terrifying.

It's a terrifying trailer. It's a really scary movie. It's a super well-done version of the Japanese film called Ringu, which I would not say a lot of people do the like, this one's better, this one's better. They're different enough, in my opinion, that they're both really, really good movies that you could seek out either one and feel good.

There's a different tone to how each of them is presented. Ringu is more of that sense of dread that I was kind of describing for Blair Witch. Ring is more of that traditional, like in the theater, you're going to throw your popcorn up in the air because you're going to get the SHIT scared out of you. Both really, really solid movies. Elite tier for me. Halloween. this one's going on for sure and then lastly it's my favorite it is it happens to be one of my favorite horror movies it happens to be one of my favorite slasher movies but it is also one of the elite elite spooky season movies and that's scream scream i respect

that you you can't get more iconic when it comes to spooky season than Scream. The ghost face costumes, the mask that has lasted the test of time, the one that you will see on the streets of New York City and elsewhere forever and ever and ever. Wes Craven's masterpiece, an elite movie that lampoons the horror genre, but also is like a love letter to the horror genre uh and also a fantastic movie start to finish the sequels are great i love everything about scream i love everything about the scream franchise it is my top tier spooky season horror this is a great breakdown man this is a great list too i mean i respect mine is completely we were right our mine is like the exact opposite mine is like feel good Like it's Halloween season Mine is nothing like yours but I respect

All the choices you're obviously much more Into horror as me as well So there it is the pound for pound rankings for One New Yorker I'm curious what the chat's gonna think of it I want to hear what Frank has to say Since you were just berating him the entire time He was going through it Alright man let's hear yours top five

I'm gonna be real honest with you. These are movies that I would watch any fucking time of the year. I am a big proponent. There's a song from a band called Ministry called Every Day is Halloween, and that's what I live by. All right, so we clarified yesterday. We were like, movies to get you in the moment? Yeah, spooky season.

What is that? You're like, I want you in any season. Everything's spooky season when we'm working with you guys. You never know if you're going to have a good day, bad day, you know,

so it's like watching a slasher film. Can you get on with it? Let's get the movies. So, number five, and again, I have to emphasize real quick,

these aren't necessarily ranked. These are each in a vacuum. Other than the ranking. Get out of here with this like, these aren't really Halloween movies and I'm not going to rank them,

but here's five movies. Is that Frank's blurred face up there? What does it say right under that? Top five pound-for-pound rankings Halloween movies. Rank. Rank. Coming in at number five. We got Hellraiser.

Five. Oh, I was expecting this to be one. Well, maybe if you would stop and listen to me every now and then, you would have a better understanding of how I'm doing this. I haven't seen it. Watched the trailer last night. Looks unbelievable. Yeah. Unbelievably good.

Yes, no, I know. You've got the Cenobites, for those who don't know, get to know. You've got a main character villain named Frank, kind of a weird guy. I dig it.

Moving on to number four, we have John Carpenter's The Thing. Amazing. Yes. Like, when you think of a movie that takes place in antarctica the last thing you're thinking of is how they're all gonna get killed by some weird alien thing that came from god knows where i guess outer space so they're pretty clear on that best soundtrack ever i mean it's not halloweenian this is no trick-or-treaters or no stupid slasher thing it's just just a weird abomination that just molds into people and dogs. Oh, my God, it's great.

Get to know it. Number three, Event Horizon. I'm going to be real honest with you. The only thing that could make Hellraiser better is if Hellraiser was in space. And my boy W.S. Anderson, the guy who directed the first Mortal Kombat, was like, Frank, I got you. We're going to do Hellraiser in space. And we're going to take the dude from Jurassic Park.

We're going to take his eyeballs out. And it's going to freak everyone out. And you're going to love it. And then right when you think we're done, when the end credits come, we're going to play funky shit by the Prodigy and just, like, blow your hair off. Oh, spoilers. Okay, really? Really? All right.

Number two, My Bloody Valentine. A little Canadian slasher film. I know I was shitting on the slasher films earlier, but if you're going to do a slasher film, it has to be from Canada. Because they have like a, I don't know. The sensibility is different. And one thing is, so here's the other example of, this could be argued to be a Valentine's Day movie.

I would have thought so with the name. I consider this a Valentine's Day movie. I would have thought so with the name. I consider this a Valentine's Day movie. However, this came onto my radar because there is an excellent band from Scotland known as My Bloody Valentine. And as a kid, I was like, oh, where did they get that name? And then I found out it was from this movie. Turns out to be one of the best movies. Quentin Tarantino is a huge fan of it. If you haven't seen it, you should see it.

But let's get to my number one. Now, this movie I honestly would watch any day of the week. I don't give a shit if it's Halloween, the day before Christmas. I'll do it whenever. It's Alien. I'm sorry. I'm not sorry, actually. I don't even know why I said I'm sorry because GC's weird like that.

But, no, this is Ridley Scott at his finest. And just before you start to shit on it because I can already see it in your face. Enjoy this movie for the fact of what it started like the lighting the casting the way the dialogue is done the way that the alien that in case you don't know um GC that's actually the villain of the movie is an alien right you don't think I've seen it other than you oh wow really you haven't seen it no of course I've seen okay thank you so. Oh, wow. Really? You haven't seen it? No, of course I've seen it. Okay, thank you. So anyway, it's Alien Crawled, so all your movies on your top five list or whatever could run.

Oh, that's not even remotely close to true. No, that is absolutely true. I don't think it's true, man. Even movies that came before Alien were done in respect of like, damn, I just wish there was another contemporary like Alien, and then Ridley Scott delivered. I have some strong thoughts. Okay, my first instant reaction is i think if

we ever do any more pound for pound rankings and they're movie related alien will be one for frank the guy never shuts up about this film did you see alien for you romulus i actually finally watched alien and frank couldn't even be like oh what'd you think of it he was just like time to watch alien 2 yeah time to watch Alien 2. Yeah. Time to watch Alien 2. It's called Alien 2. Jesus. Do you even listen to me? Frank, I have strong thoughts on this. Number one, great list of movies. Like tremendous list.

I love all these movies. Inarguably. Fantastic movies. Also, I noticed the like paranormally spacey kind of theme, right? Like we're going away from like the traditional. So My Bloody Valentine was like an interesting inclusion because that's like more spacey kind of theme right like we're going away from like the traditional so my bloody valentine was like a uh an interesting inclusion because that's like more traditional slash like i i like that you you did that but it seems like our vibes are a little bit different you like the like sci-fi

but like does this make five movies that you want to kumbaya and then the other thing i would say is like you completely missed the assignment these are not spooky season movies like i would have picked final destination and all my other favorite movies But they don't fit You enjoy your dissent About spelunking You miss the About the dissent Wow Spelunking

Hey guys You wanna watch a slasher movie That everyone's in a cave No that's a monster It's a monster movie And it's one of the best Was the monster not A human at some point

They might have been You guys are gonna hate my list You guys are gonna No I don't think so Should we just skip it Mine is like As like Hollywood Like corporate As it gets You guys are going to hate my list. No, I don't think so. Should we just skip it? Mine is as Hollywood, corporate as it gets.

I feel like mine is, Frank's is just like movies. Here they are. Here's some movies. Mine is like, this is so Halloween and seasonally and then you're sort of like in the middle. I'm in the middle somewhere, yeah.

Let's kick it off though. Number five, Nightmare Before Christmas. Classic. Despite what the name says, this is obviously a Halloween movie. middle somewhere yeah uh let's kick it off though um number five nightmare before christmas classic despite what the name says this is obviously a halloween movie uh pumpkin king all the above i mean it just gets me this is what i'm talking about frank you're talking about like ah this isn't a great movie i'm talking about i'm talking about movies that i want to watch around halloween time that just get me in the season. And here's a controversy. We're going to kick it off at number four

with a controversy. Not actually a movie, but I have to watch it every year. What is this? It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown. Oh, okay. Oh, great soundtrack. Great story.

I watch almost all the Charlie Browns, like Thanksgiving, Christmas. I'll even do a Valentine's Day every once in a while. But I mean, it's just a way to set the tone for the season. Absolute classic. You guys say I don't like old stuff. Charlie Brown was made in the 60s.

Still lives up to this day. Number three, we're doing a double feature. Hocus Pocus, not only one, but also two. Disney classic. Didn't think they could do any better than the first one. Got all the same actresses back for two.ade it 2022 full circle movies in one slot like what the hell i did my list frank my list you go and watch alien over there my list hocus pocus one and two number two i mean you're gonna have to be a real one to uh to recognize this one wallace and grumet the curse

of the were-Rabbit. Absolute classic. Didn't see it until the first time last year. Couldn't have joined it more. My UK fans out there that are watching right now will know how great Wallace and Gromit is. And then you're throwing in a little Halloween theme.

It's just an all-time classic. All of these films you could also watch with your children which you guys which you guys both have i'm not about completely just ruining my pants shitting myself scared like i like i like to you know feel the season i like to enjoy it but number one i am going with a horror movie uh and aptly named i'm going with halloween oh we shared one we shared one and you can make fun of me all you want that this is so cliche uh this list of just like uh the corporate machine of halloween let's get it out seasonal uh things halloween though is an absolute classic down for us why indie

small movie well it's an independent film that you know only took 21 days to film uh frank and then it ended up generating 70 million dollars and it was one of the highest profiting independent films of all time uh jamie lee curtis shout out okay real soundtrack as well the mask who was the mask of william shatner okay this was a question for you took it right out of my mouth no no i did not read the facts about halloween in the bathroom on our writer from Yahoo. No, I didn't do that. You just play that music, though. I'm getting in the season. Who made the music?

Look at you, Franklin. Wasn't it Carpenter himself? Did I make that up? Yes, exactly. This is where I'm like, I'm a Halloween fan. It's number one on my PowerPoint. Get the hell out of here. He's just like the worst.

He knew it. He knew it. He's just like, why do we have to do this, man? Go watch My Bloody Valentine, for God's sake. the worst. He knew it. He knew it. He's just like, why do we have to do this, man? Go watch My Bloody Valentine for God's sake. I will. It's a great movie. Jesus.

I mean, a guy can't appreciate a movie. He has to know who made the score, who did everything. We know Chicken Little is what you really wanted to put on there.

Listen, Wallace and Gromit, The Curse of the Were-Rabbit is essentially just Chicken Little Halloween version. I love it. We have to post these because I feel like

we need some convo. There's definitely going to be. I feel like, I'll be honest, I feel like we need some convo there's definitely i feel like i'll be honest i feel like each of us had a list that was uniquely ours and oh yeah i appreciate i oh look at this there's the list right there halloween one for me scream for rick alien for frank uh i love this could you take these lists without our names and faces attached a hundred i really think so i think i think mine is so obviously me. And then Rick's, I think you could get Y'all's Too Mixed, but I think the fact you have Hellraiser on there and Alien 1 is up to you.

Nobody would confuse me for having Alien as the top of my Halloween movie list. You had your chance, man. Nobody would put that on me. Yeah, I mean, I would put one of the most iconic horror films of all time. Matthew Lillard, shout out. He stole that show. Yeah, he's great. And Halloween, one of the most iconic movies. And Frank's over here.

Yeah, yeah. Alien. Missed the assignment, but you know. We got next week. We got next week. Frank's, what's next week? Should we tease them? What are we doing next week ranking wise? Well, next week our's What's next week Should we tease them What are we doing next week Ranking wise Well next week our show Is literally on Halloween

So What's the category What are we gonna do I feel like Halloween candy Is a layup Alright There it is Halloween candy

Frank's gonna come up with Something that's not Halloween He's gonna say Otter pops He's gonna say He's gonna be like Toothpush I can get these

I can get these whenever He's gonna say something You don't even get that much At Halloween He's gonna say Push pop He's gonna say something you don't even get that much at Halloween He's gonna say push pop He's gonna say push pop I love it That's what I love anytime That was a staple Here we go I'm looking at the chat right now

Halloween was only good because Jamie Lee Curtis was hot I love it GC Jack Skellington Is amazing look at that Where Rabbit is a comedy, though, and someone says, nah, GC is right. All right, look at this.

Yeah. Doesn't get better than Halloween. You've created dissent in the chat. I love it. Let's get all the dissent. Thumbs up to the chat. All right, some best of the rests. Yeah.

That almost made it. Mine was Scream. Scream. Friday the 13th. Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island. Shout out, real ones know. Real ones know. For you, I thought we were going to go this.

I almost made it my one just because of you. Rocky Horror Picture Show. Shout out. Real ones know. Real ones know. For you, I thought we were going to go this. I almost made it my one just because of you. Rocky Horror Picture Show. Shout out to Amityville. There's a movie called The Amityville Horror. You remember this? Yes, I'm sorry. It's a great one. I was going through the list and I don't know why I got that confused. Amityville Horror Show. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. Halloween Town. Halloween Town. Hi. Shout out to all those. Halloweeny, you said? Uh, Transylvania. Halloweeny, another good one. Shout out if we're, if we're going the,

uh, Burton route. Uh, what we do in the shadows. Oh, that's a great one. That's a classic. Um,

this is not a Halloween movie, but I just, uh, they do Huluween, uh, and I watched The Happening the other night. Oh,

yeah. Oh, you guys liked it. I liked The Happening. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah,

you should. That's Wahlberg, Wahlberg and the trees and all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. Listen, I'm a bit of an M. Night Shyamalan apologist. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I get it.

I get it then. Then I won't speak. I can't speak. I'll get in trouble. Anything I say, I'll get in trouble. I thought it was dog shit. That's not the first time. They happen to go outside and it it's just like oh the storm

passed us we lived and everyone had let up and forgive them mother nature it's mark walberg i'll finally let up get out of here um i left just a lot of like traditional horror movies off mine as i said like final destination is like my core core like series i would have loved to put it on there but that feels like a more evergreen year round um carrie carrie is a definite halloween one trick our treat um is a fantastic one i haven't seen that but i saw that on a bunch of lists really really good it just missed the cut for me um all the slasher films all the friday the 13th nightmare on elm street child's, like that's all in there for me.

But again, those for me are kind of year round. I know Frank, you know, didn't follow the assignment and put all his year round films on there for me. Angel Heart, Exorcist, The Entity. There's a few that, no, I didn't make the list because this is pound for pound. And as we all know, pound for pound is a very strict definition. Exorcist could have been such a good number one instead of Alien. Like it it actually makes sense as a horror movie like there's a alien bursting out of my chest i want you to remember that yeah is it gonna happen at halloween time or is it gonna happen in

the middle of february i feel a little queasy i'm uh i'm out here fighting for my life uh larry bird in the chat said the happening was trash you guys got shit taste did i not just say it was terrible uh howard diskoff said haunted mansion with dr doolittle obviously talking about eddie murphy uh cross says jeepers creepers not bad paranormal activity uh shining shining also was a close one on the list for me a super chat from aquiles jr says uh elvira mistress of darkness elvira mistress of darkness is goaded uh no jason love the exorcist, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Shout Out Leatherface. These are all.

Beetlejuice, Monster House. What's Monster House? Not a movie worth watching. I walked out of that one. Thanks Killing, Gobble Gobble MFers, Freddy Friggin' Kruger Yo. Yeah, Freddy versus Jason is more of a comedy than a horror, but I love that one.

Someone said, yeah, Amityville is scary. Music is very scary to me. Yeah. Shout out to What Willie Thinks. I guess that is What Willie Thinks right there. Freddy V. Jason. Freddy V. Jason. Our disc golf recognizes Scooby-Doo.

Jason goes to hell. Larry Bird. I love Jason goes to hell. Larry Bird again in the trash. Dude, your list was so trash it made me mad Your list or You just referred to the chat as the trash The trash sorry no child's play

Can you discuss Shopping mall that's a good one Can you discuss some MMA This is kind of shit eh We only spent the first We only spent the First hour and 40 minutes doing that. We do have some questions that we should probably get to.

Who's the scariest fighter in the UFC? Or in MMA? Is it Francis? Alex Pereira. Alex Pereira? Yeah, that's probably a good answer. All right, Frank, let's rip the super chats and get on out of here. All right, so first we want to give a shout out to Tech.

He gifted 10 memberships. Wow. Shout out to Tech. Thank you. Very apropos to the halloween season i appreciate that um the chat wanted gc to start messing around with ariel's toys on the desk uh but that was before they knew that ariel was here so if you don't want to do that that's great slowly but surely you already shifted some of them mason asked for ilia is

there a circumstance where he wins the fight but loses in the eyes of the fans? No. Yeah. I don't know about that. If you beat Volk and Max Holloway, I don't see how you've lost. If it's a decision that he doesn't, that people don't think he actually won, that would be the only way. He'll beat Max. Yeah.

And he's still going to just move on. Mason follows that up with, Can we introduce the Frank intro To the A8 show Oh as Ariel's music? We're going to have to clip that off We haven't talked about what Frank's fee is going to be for this I don't know why it's called the Frank intro I picked it out yes but

We haven't talked about what the fee is going to be for that To be played we haven't discussed with the artist yet This one's from Rick It's by Kenny, and he says... For Rick or from Rick? For Rick. I'm sorry. Rick,

why did Challenge Era 1 perform so poorly? This is a fantastic question. Challenge Era 1 was loaded, but they just weren't equipped for a modern game, and politically,

they weren't able to align themselves with the right people. Challenge Era 4 and Challenge Era 3 have been playing this game and building relationships and over and over they weren't able to align themselves with the right people challenge uh era four and challenge era three have been playing this game and building relationships and over and over have these kind of ties that they can throw back to the vacation alliance being the most prominent of them and so they just didn't have the the numbers on their side and they didn't have enough of a strong alliance with challenge era two they kind of assumed it was there but they didn't solidify it

once they started falling off they were ripe for the picking, but Rachel's a gangster and still around. They weren't ready for the political game. They were equipped strength-wise, but they weren't ready for the political game. Nice. Also, just wanted to make a quick shout-out. We did get 15 new members. Let's go. Can't list them all, but we do have Shane Adams,

David Woods, Jason Gomez, and those are all officially knows-it-alls now. Wow, knows-it-alls. I'm not all officially knows-it-alls now. Wow, knows-it-alls. I'm not even a knows-it-all. That's amazing. Shout out to you for it. Shout out to Jason Gomez. Yeah.

Chris Bocci asks, these are some questions for New York Rick on horror movies. Are the Terrifier movies too much? No. Or can you see them for what they are? I love the Terrifier series. I have not seen three yet. I'm looking forward to seeing three.

I like all the different forms of horror. Like I'm a fan of like, you know, whether it be the slasher film, even the like, you know, sci-fi horror that, that Frank is talking about with Alien.

Like I'm into all the different genres. The like over the top gore, grotesque kind of thing is in my wheelhouse as well. I love what the Terrifier series has done. And we talked about Halloween being like a small film that became big. The budget on Terrifier is small as well.

And they were able to parlay that into like mainstream kind of success. There's a cap to that, right? Like not everybody, your grandma's not going to go watch the Terrifier series, but there's enough of us crazy people out there that love it, and I'm a fan of what they're doing.

My favorite thing about the Terrifier, real quick, is the idea that when they were doing the screenings for Terrifier 1 and 2, it was, like, all over the internet about people are throwing up while watching this, they're having to leave, and it's like, how do you top that? Well, for Terrifier 3, they were like, some of the cast members were getting sick during the filming of Terrifier 3. Like, they've done it. They just keep turning that knob. Moving on, though,

we have Jason. What are your guys' thoughts? It's just Jason. I know. Now I'm a little worried. What are your guys' thoughts on Don Davis saying he doesn't watch MMA other than PFL?

Yeah, we covered this at the top, but I think worth kind of readdressing and reiterating. I don't think that's going to win you over the fans. I understand the intention. I get what he's saying. I'm not watching the competitor's product, but if I could just suggest watch the competitor's product, understand the space,

and show to fight fans that you are a fight fan as well um do i think he meet like do i think it's some kind of like big ringing indictment on him no probably not but i just think it was probably not the best way to to have that come out yeah i'm with you it's just like it's it's always going to get clipped off and played again howard wants to know what up rick what's your favorite m get clipped off and played again. Howard wants to know, What up, Rick? What's your favorite MTG color combo in Commander slash favorite Commander to whip out on game night? Shout out to Frank for the beatboxing.

The chat understands me. We're talking horror movies. We're talking challenge. We're talking MTG, Magic the Gathering. I'm not a Commander guy. I'm sorry to break your heart. I play alchemy only. I only play 60

card decks i don't play 100 card decks uh there are all there are times where they're doing like a midweek thing and i'll jump in on a commander deck but it's you know built from scratch at that moment um so i don't really play commander my favorite combo right now i'm running like a blue white um aura combo where i'm dropping a lot of like low mana creatures and then adding enchantments to them and pumping them with enchantments it's really

going well for me I'm enjoying it a lot I have no idea what the fuck you do white it's all white no clue white is great shout out then we do have a result from the music poll that you asked

for earlier 35% say keep it 28% say change it to Ariel singing the KSI song. And the rest say look for something else. Okay. What is the rest? Is that the highest number? Yes. No. 35% was the highest. Okay. What was the rest?

Look, dude. I'm just reading what was given to me. I'm in the thick of it. Is he back? Yes. What do you mean, am I back? They cut to it before. No, no, no. Technically, 38% said find something new, huh? No, they said they like it.

No, no, no. If it was 35%- So Beastman says there is a new Wallace and Gromit. We can do math back here, Frankie. They all want something new. There is a new Wallace and Gromit coming on to Netflix for Christmas this year. Oh, I'm so there. Are you kidding me? Killian and Bop-A will

be there. I appreciate your appreciation of holidays. You are one of my top tier holiday people and I respect it. Wallace and Gromit is also just so good. The cheese. You're up for the festivities around these holidays. Alright. Is that it?

I think that's it, man. That is it. Frank, you can hit our music. Yeah. Let's do it. Da-na-na-na-na. Oh. Ole-ba-na-na.

Da-na-ba-na-na. How does that song go, Frank? Is that the outro? There it is. Oh, wow. Ole-ba-na-na. We're cutting the axe on Frank's music. Yeah, I thought that was going to be Frank.

Yo, I like this song. You guys should keep it. It's a good song? This is hot. Yeah, this is hot in the street. I don't know that was going to be Frank. Yo, I like this song. You guys should keep it. It's a good song? This is hot. Yeah, this is hot on the street. I don't know. I've heard this before. I've never really liked it.

Can we get a full MP3 version of Ariel Helwani singing the KSI song? Is that a possibility? You mocked, but I think it's a banger, and it's currently, I think, 84 on the top 100. Yeah, people are hate listening, though. They're doing it to clown it, huh? Listen, as the great Paris Hilton once said, the haters, they make us famous. I feel like we should end it right there.

Yeah, we got a lot of music to kill here. Keep going, keep going. It's a timing thing. You got to time. No, no, no. We're working through it. I honestly expected to hear the Frank song, and we would have been out of here in like 30 seconds.

That was vetoed. Wow. Vetoed. The EP said no. Thumbs up. Thumbs up to the chat. He came in here right at the end. He was like, hit my music, Frank.

Wow. Like Casablanca. He's like, hit it, Sam. If you believe this, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Is there a bridge for sale? There's seven bridges in Brooklyn. There's not. Have you gotten any...

Contrary to popular belief, Jews don't own everything. Wow. Have you gotten any contrary to popular belief, Jews don't own everything. Wow. Have you gotten any responses to the Fox to the hot take? Which one? To the prediction. I don't look at comments. I don't read the comments. No, I was wondering if maybe you got a direct message. If you haven't

then okay. Oh, why? Is someone going to direct message me? I don't know. No, I don't know. Who's going to direct message me? Oh, no. No, I don't know. Who's going to direct message me? His manager? Put the H down on the line. What does that even mean?

I don't bet. I'm telling you. It was exclusive content for this show. You'll see three of us this weekend. Can't wait. Watch Party 145 Eastern

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