The Ariel Helwani Show - Tom Aspinall hits back, Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua arrives, Merab x Zuck | The Craic

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

For the final Craic of 2025, Petesy Carroll is joined by Chuck Mindenhall to round out the combat sports year.They open by previewing this weekend’s crossover fight between Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua on Netflix (04:38).Shifting back to MMA, the duo discuss Tom “Bully” Aspinall’s message to Ciryl Gane and how the buildup to their rematch is shaping up compared to the first meeting (28:45).Then it’s over to the PFL, where news of Movlid Khaybulaev’s positive drug tests has caused ripples. The guys react to what it means for the PFL titleholder (41:35).Finally, Petesy and Chuck react to the latest Mark Zuckerberg MMA training footage, this time alongside Merab Dvalishvili (49:30).To close out the show and the year, they answer your Super Chats (55:00).

Hello everybody. It is not Friday. It is in fact Thursday, but I am Petey Carol and this is the crack. I know. You're expecting the boys in the back to be here. They usually do Thursdays. I'll tell you what happened. You know, everybody was going to Miami. me for this whole thing, this big Jake Paul v. Anthony Joshua thing. And they said, Pety, please. Will you please come? And I was like, listen, I don't want to miss the crack on Friday. They were like, well, here's the thing. You know, none of us are going to do the shows. We're all going to

leave our shows because Jake Paul is so cool. We're going to go and cover that event. And I was like, hang on a second. There's going to be no crack if I leave, so they're just going to see out the year with no crack. People be feigning for crack if we don't do one last show of the year. So while New York, Rick, Mysterious

Frank, G.C. They all left, and they said, you know, we're picking Jake Paul over the audience. Pizzie Carroll is here. The Crack is here. Chuck Mendenhall is here. Chuck Mennanhall, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for doing this. You know, it's nice when people are committed, Chuck, because the same can't be said

for every single person that works on this show. You know, I keep my arm loose in the bullpen, just in case something like this happens, Piz, you know what I mean? I think you gave me the call at about 9.30 this one. morning you said we're going to have to go on those guys are not here i said let's do this thing here we are and we will not let our people down we won't but um you know oscar losef won't uh jordan camsand won't but there is one there's one omission here and his name is big time ben folks uh of course the request came in very late for him too you know an emergency if you say

will and he was just like well let me send you on my agent's phone number and i said ben surely we can just sort this out among each other here. And he said, listen, I'm driving. Hung up. Yeah. Talk to the agent. He'd demand $10,000 to be on this show today. He said, that's the only way we're getting big time Ben, folks. And therefore, we can't have them. I'm sorry. That's double what he normally gets to be on this show. That's ridiculous. It's absolutely crazy to just double your fee like that at the drop for Apple. That's big time Ben folks. That's, you know, play silly games, win silly prizes to a certain degree on my part. The truth is, I'm not sure he really gave us excuse did he he just kind of was like i'm out there was no questions asked it was sort of like

i'm not doing it the gris did win yeah that's true he was pretty happy about that too it looked like he had one of those two or three day hangovers going on i i love them and hate them at the same time they remind me that i am mortal but they also reminded me that i've had a fantastic time when i was doing that to myself um a double-edged sword the double the the multiple day hangover But listen, we're not here to talk about hangovers, although there will be some incoming hangovers due to the festive season taking place in the next week. But before we get into everything we want to talk about, we will be talking about Jake Paul and Anthony Josh. We will be talking about Tom Aspinall and Cyril Gann being at each other's throats via social media. We'll also talk about Mavlid Kabiloev and his failed drug test.

And there's a few little bits we're going to get to two. But before all that, I need to plug the latest offering. from Uncrowned Films. The Fight Circus, Docs. What is Fight Circus, as you can see there? The great Ariel O'Wani in the Louis Theroux kind of role here with the great E. Casey Leiden. A really, really brilliant, brilliant documentary once again.

And just a bizarre world. And it's so well shot. You know, Casey is a savage, as we all know. We've all worked with him before. But there's one particular one in the kind of introduction section. When Ariel arrives into this arena in Las Vegas that's going to host Fighters, circus. And he's talking about how trippy all the graphics are. And Casey goes

from filming him to spiraling around all one shot to come back to Ariel at the end. And I was like, who else could do with this shit, man? Did you get to see it yet, Chuck? I have not seen it yet, but I've the little pieces that they've ladled out, I'm definitely going to be watching it here soon, but like the little pieces they've ladled out,

it's right up my alley. I mean, why didn't I think of this? You know what I mean? Like, uh, you got a, what's his name? Charles Bennett? Like, these guys, like, when they resurface, Anytime you see these guys resurfers like, oh shit, this guy, you know, it's like there's always something fun about this. Yeah, absolutely. And it is an absolute smorgasbord of combat athletes and combat personalities throughout this.

But speaking of combat sport athletes and celebrities, Jake Paul v. Anthony Joshua, the fight we've all been waiting for Chuck is happening tomorrow in Miami. All the lads are there, as we said. The press conference last night hosted by the one and only Ariel O'Anne, fantastically done as always, but am I crazy in thinking, I thought there'd be more buzz. Maybe, maybe it's where I am in the world, but I felt like there would be a lot more buzz in the lead up to this, given how big the announcement was in the first place. Yeah, you know, and I was supposed to be out there, too. I was going to go out there and it was that sense of like, you know, I was worried about

the fomo, like if I, but that hasn't really been the case. And I guess that really plays to the point, right? Like, it's more like, happy of not being out there, homo, homo, but like, that's not what But more of the, but what I'm trying to say is like, I thought I would have that and I really don't because they're, I don't know, maybe it's because. And I've heard like guys like Luke Thomas kind of talk about this a little bit that the presentation of it, it feels so imbalanced competitively. Now, we've had this in the past, but it's usually for Jake in Jake Paul's favor. You're usually looking at something where you're like, dude, he's going to kill a 57 year old Mike Tyson or, you know, like he's fighting one of these other guys. Like you kind of look at it. you say, sure, pick on somebody your own side, but this is one of those weird situations where it tilts the other way. This should almost work. If you're one of these people who, if you subscribe to the, I'm just, I'll tune in the moment I think that Jake Paul will get his ass kicked. This should be the moment, right? So it feels like there should be buzz in the sense like, well, now he's

bitten off more than he can shoot. Now he's going against not only a real boxer, but a guy he has no business fighting. That's a complete opposite of everything we've seen in the trajectory of his career. and I don't think it's buzz what I feel honestly is this little bit of like curiosity and concern like it's like there's a blend of like I don't know how this plays out but I've never felt so certain of an outcome in my life you know what I mean in terms of I don't know exactly how it plays out but I know what's going to happen generally you know what I mean and I think that that's that's a weird terrain and then that makes you think okay let's just say that this is all legit that Jake Paul has no chance and Why is he doing it, you know? That's where the, so I get, I get kind of caught up in the philosophy of this fight a little bit. Yeah, you're right. And it's a great point to make in terms of the obvious outcome. Because even though we were all pretty sure Jake Paul would win the fight with Mike Tyson,

there was that old school boxing fan who hadn't actually been watching boxing for the last 30 years that was just a Tyson fan. I was like, oh my God, this, this Disney kid, you know, like, you know, not even pulling. putting him in the world of boxing essentially being like this YouTuber, these guys that I hate so much is finally going to get their comeuppance. And obviously it played out the way it did, but you know, you're right in what you're saying in terms of it does feel like, not a matter of how,

but when, how long into this fight before Anthony Joshua catches this dude? And Joshua has been so businesslike in his demeanor in the lead up to this fight. Like he has not for one second been like, oh, well, you know, I think this kid has a chance, you know who knows i mean he seems to hit pretty hard every time he's asked about he's like no look i'm a million times better than this dude i'm on a completely different level to this guy they were

asking him yesterday i believe it was oscar willis from the mac life asked him like when do you think is the last time you fought someone of jake paul's level and he was like oh very early on my career like really like i can't even like none of the guys that i fought recently basically like way before that it's like flipping through his amateur file let's see yeah i'll find a dude um but is that kind of counteractive to the to the to the jake point jake paul sell right like this guy is brilliant that selling do you think he's sitting there going come on may just just pretend that i have a chance here to to sell a few casual eyeballs to this event in part though don't you think like jake paul so his whole thing has almost been the bending of reality in general

like just in general like just we're going to bend realities to how i want reality to be and we're going to do these things. We're going to shape perception the way we want it. Um, you know, we're going to play audacious and we're going to do this and this. And I think that, you know, kind of going into a fight like this, that's how he looks at it. You know, like, you know, can he do it? Like, I think that like in most cases, logic would say, no. I mean, this is a ridiculous thing. But he's one of those guys who succeeded on so many weird levels now, like so many levels, almost everything he's touched has been a success that you're like, There's a little bit, if you're trying to find the Jake Paul magic or whatever it is, I know that people, some people see it as something else, but like, whatever that is, this is what it would show up, right?

Like, he has an ounce of something that says, well, I don't know. Like, maybe he's got something that, you know, that how does he come out of this one on top? But I think that that's it because every other thing about this fight, like I was kind of going down today. I did a column that should be running here pretty soon. You think about the trajectory of guys he faced. It was like there was a natural escalation of threat, but the threats were kind of, you know, like a little click more toward the danger red zone,

but not a lot. So it goes from like, you know, Ben Ascran, for instance, originally to Tyrone Woodley. Well, Woodley's a better striker, but neither one of these, they're both collegiate wrestlers who ended up in a main, neither one of them's a boxer, right? And then he goes to Anderson Silva.

Well, Silva's a much better striker than both them, he's 47 years old, you know, and then it's, it kind of goes from that on to the next to the next. This is one of those scenarios where you're just like, it, it has nothing to do with anything that he's done previously. That has nothing to do with it. Like, he just went from, you know, one planet to another in terms of what he's about to try to do. There's something about that audacity that still translates. And I think that that's kind of like in a selling point, if you've actually followed his career and you've been, you know, if you take him semi-sum, serious as an entertainer or a boxer, that's where the, that's where the, I guess the biggest

intrigue is because this is just not something. He has no business really in there. It's one of those fights that I'm not sure everybody would sanction. You know what I mean? Like it's just, it's the, the discrepancy so far apart. Do you think, you know, you've mentioned like this kind of the audacity of what he's doing, the size difference we've seen on Air Jordan was playing the video clips with them facing off. And it's staggering, you know. Crazy visual. It's a crazy visual. It's as crazy as you and Ben mentioned before, it's the flip of what we were looking at with Tank Davis

and Jake Paul. You know, look, it's like, this is the thing, right? You're looking at this guy doing this and he's like, look, he's trying to be funny and all, but like, it's like, this is like one of the best boxers of his generation. It's like those videos where like somebody's like, you know, messing with a zoo animal, like a bear or something and the bear finally mulsom and you're like, well, what did you expect was going to happen there? Why did you call into the Lion Gate?

you know like that that was going to happen but he like he like so people talk about jake paul and the things they say about him is like qualifying that he can punch you know like that's what they say about jake paul when he's in the lead up to a fight against silver or askeran or mike tyson like this guy do he can really he can really really fucking hit i don't really know how to to explain this like he is one of the the greatest heavyweights of his generation and to your point about the audacity and the size difference that's just so obvious to even a child looking at this even win a loss even if he's on skates within the first round of this does he somehow win from this loss because he's like who else would do that like you know he's going to try and

turn this into a win for him somehow do you think he can do that because of how outrageous this task is i just wonder to be completely honest like as i was like i mentioned i was running a column but what you start to really wonder is okay is this the big finale is this kind of like we've been saying that for a long time though yeah i mean is this kind of like hey man if i'm gonna go out it's gonna be in a place of glory and i mentioned this like the last time i was talking about like you know boady from the original point break where he's you know the 50 year storm he's like i'm gonna come around that wave one last time before it all crashes down on me um it has that feel does it not i'm like is this just because i wonder and i mean we'll see

obviously like you know come friday night late when the fight's over and we kind of get a better indication of things like we'll see it where his head is hopefully still on his body but like those things where I'm like is this was this a moment where he's like now man I'm I'm I think I'm done and now he is not really given that kind of indication in fact he's only entrenched himself in the boxing game with the women's side of things and Manisorano everything else he's got going on but it could also be that it could also be these like I don't know what I could do that's going to be like bigger than what I've done and so I'm going to go in there and this is you People wanted to see me go up against somebody who was a Goliath.

I'm going to go do that. Yeah. Yeah. It's what does it do to the public's appetite as well as a question I find myself? You know, like as we're talking about the inevitability of what is about to happen here. Like it's so weird that even if Jake Paul wins, I feel like that's negative for everyone too because people are going to be so skeptical about. Oh my God. You know, it's going to cause absolute uproar.

So, right, if it goes the way we expected to, he gets splattered by Anthony Joshua at some point. do you think that takes away from the selling power of the potential Inganu matchup which we all feel is at play which in Ganu himself and that highly scrutinized interview with Ariel O'Anne said himself that he'll be watching very closely does Paul getting absolutely flatlined here

very early as expected take away from the sell of an Angano for you or will people be like well maybe he can what does that like what is the sell there like if it's just two guys that Anthony Joshua beat really quickly. Like, is that intriguing?

Yeah. I don't think so. I don't think it is. I mean, but I mean, there's, there are times that maybe you tell me the same, like you tell me, there are times I feel like maybe I'm just a little bit out of touch with what the public sees and wants out of Jake Paul. To be honest, I really don't know sometimes. Like, you know, when he was fighting like Tommy Fury, for instance, or he's, you know,

I guess, you know, even going through the couple of dudes like who are like the no name, Wikipedia type guys and you're like well he's trying to build his resume or he's trying to do it the right way or he's trying to do this and that nobody wanted that nobody wanted that um i don't know what people want with this guy but i would think if he goes in there and he just gets smoke first round just gets obliterated with a big you know big right hand or whatever it is and he just goes down um similar i guess because it was a bad optic even for a guy like francis and ganu even a guy who stood in there with Tyson fury and already proved that hey i can stand in there with a big time heavyweight and survive, he gets smoked and you're like, yeah, see, you can't.

You can't for a guy who, like, a guy who's preparing for you and taking you seriously. That's kind of how we saw it. I don't know where he goes from that because what more do you need to see from Jake Paul at that point? Like, what do you wanting to see from Jake Paul at that point? Because if he gets smoked by Joshua, it's like, well, do we really need to see Engano do the same thing to him? And would it still have any intrigue?

Would you still believe that Jake Paul presents any kind of threat to Engano? like I don't know where if that if that exists I would just I would admit freely that I'm not I don't know how to look it I'd be like I'm not a connoisseur of Jake Paul apparently I just do not understand how to how to perceive this guy um but I wouldn't to personally I would not have interest in seeing that if he can't get if he can't and this is a tall ass but if you can't make this somewhat competitive to show that to show that maybe the boxing chops run deeper than we've even given credit for something like that um I don't really see why we'd have to have that appetite you know you know you were asking earlier about how this came about and i heard a few people in the boxing world speaking about this they were kind of like it was a desperation when the davis fight fell out there was calls being made to so many people like to to see what would happen yeah and i think the joshua call was made by them guys being like oh he he won't take this right and he's like yes and then meanwhile paul's people are on with netflix and netflix are like, you're going to fight Anthony Joshua

on Netflix? Yeah. And he's like, yes. So then this this, like he is a businessman of good. Jake Paul's obviously massively successful. He's trying to keep a relationship with Netflix, which is absolutely massive, which we said back when the Tyson fight happened, this was the most significant

thing about the, the fight in terms of combat sports, the market it was opening up. So that, that doesn't really shock me if that was how it played out, right? Like if it was a desperation thing, he was making promises to Netflix, talking about potential people he can get involved

and he lands on Anthony Joshua and they're like, oh no, we really like that. And then Joshua says yes. It's just kind of like that feels like it's plausible, right? Yeah.

And I mean, like obviously if you're looking at Jake Paul from a Netflix standpoint as being like, we might be able to get more events out of him. This could be the signal of an abrupt termination in that relationship.

Because that it is, I mean, it's such a, you know, a striking absurdity to go from like, Tank Davis. And we saw that, we saw that face off. And again, there was small intrigue for me. And I know I was talking to you and Ben about this who was more scoffing about it than I was. But I was like, well, the dude is very skilled. And it's like there's a little bit of like, can he just, you know, use his, you know, use his prowess and his speed to somehow, you know, bewitch Jake Fall and win that and win that fight. That kind of had this weird intrigue. But to see it go from that. And then they know they made the calls to what, Garcia, um, Francis Ngano, who has to be kicking himself on some level. Jesus Christ.

And then to end up with Anthony Joshua, I give in a weird way, if it's not just this ploy of like, all right, man, I don't really care about the boxing side of it, you know, whatever's going through his head. I give him credit because every single person who said, like, you need to fight somebody who, you know, your own size, your own weight, your own, whatever, your own sport. Like, you've got to fight a guy who's in these things. he's doing that like right i mean he's answering the call that everybody's been asking for him and i think that there was a part of me in an early jake you know jake paul early in the experience

that would have never believed he'd do this i never thought he would step in the in the ring against a guy like anthony joshua like he would talk about it but there's no way i would have actually believed he'd do that yeah and i mean i wonder how he feels right like as much as a promotional guy he is and a you know a guy that knows how to sell I wonder how he's feeling like when he's reading the quotes about Anthony Joshua saying I essentially have a license to kill you know you let me in there you sanctioned this

fight you're saying you can kill him and he's like no yes that's definitely a good thing to say before a fight but then you're like could he legitimately because there is right there like I'm not trying to laugh no no I know I know it's a wild thing but like that is the big concern out of all like the same thing we were kind of saying about Tyson right we were worried about what could happen to Tyson. I am equally, as much as it's what everybody kind of is signing up to watch here, as much as people are like, we're signing up to watch Jake Paul get shadow

round. It's also like, how does that look like for everyone if that, like, if he gets absolutely slept here and it could potentially go bad, that could be the end of this Netflix thing in the same vein as we were saying about Tyson, Mike Tyson a few months back. I've said this to you guys before. It's like, you wish you could leave any Jake Paul fight feeling a little better than you do. I always feel like we come out of them a little bit like greasy feeling and like,

ah, man, you know, and it's not just the Mike Tyson one. There was others, like, even the Tommy Fury, it just felt so like, I don't know what. It just felt so unnecessary, I guess. The whole thing. Why? Why did I just watch that, you know? And I remember the Nate Diaz one was kind of the one that we were lobbying for because we were like, Nate deserves that payday, you know, and we thought it might.

might be compelling was not compelling. I didn't think it was compelling. It just kind of played out. I think that that's part of the problem. So now, if you go into something like this and the optics are that he just gets completely obliterated, there's going to have, I don't know, but it's not going to be a feel good thing. It's obviously going to carry an element of like guilty, you know, whatever you want to call it, of having watched it, right?

Like, it's just, that's the way it is. The only way, and I mean, honestly, like you said, it's kind of a no win, or at least it presents itself that way, because if Paul goes in there and competes, what do you think we're going to hear that Joshua carried him, like, that he wasn't, he didn't, we didn't want to put him way too early, wanted to give the people a show, make it look like the little runt was in there, like putting his heart into it, and you couldn't get by him, you know, it's a weird setup, man, and it's going to leave, no matter what, I feel like people are going to be disappointed on some level, there's going to be some swell of, you know, the chorus saying, whatever it is,

or the fight fix, especially. Imagine if, I mean, and this is where like the fight game, I guess the imagination is always the, it's the key of it all, right? Like, well, imagine if Jake Paul does land that shot, you know? It's just one of those things.

Are you saying, like, imagine he has a Francis and Ganuvi, Toys and Fury moment. Yeah. If it happens like that where, yeah, even a moment, just a moment, yeah, where he just staggers him, I mean, that either, I mean, I think in just a,

in a real time sense, that could be crazy but it also dude in our skeptical world right now of everything going on I just you could see I had already

I could already hear it all about the fix you know it's just I don't know what the fight looks like that everybody's going to be happy with yeah that is that is a great point

one thing we do know there is definitely incentive for Anthony Joshua to not just show up here and coast through this fight because there are a lot of big time matchups on the horizon for him one man

heard his license to kill speech about Jake Paul and he had a few things to say for himself over in Morcom this is Toys and Fury Just picked the kids up from school on a schoolroom Paris and the kids And I've just been sent a video of anti-Joshua talking about If he kills somebody he kills somebody in a boxing ring You know what? He's a little bit longer in the tooth to be talking shite like that

It's 37 year old at the end of his career Fighting a YouTuber, a Disney channel guy Who Tommy B and now he's talking about killing him and all that to try and sell, please. Barking up the wrong tree, idiot. Here's a fun fact. If I ever come across you bum, I'm knocking you dead spark out, I ain't a YouTuber,

or I'm on half your size. I am him, the man. You're a classless loser. Coming off, a 15 month's knockout defeat to a local lad. Imagine if someone from Morecam knocked me out. You big bum, useless dosser. get up and i can't wait if jake paul noxious park out you big bomb you think eddie herons like this right now he's like rubbing his palms together like yes

that's exactly what he's going oh my god like you know what's the greatest part about that is a youtube a disney channel guy a guy that tommy beat all equal part i know they're all equal like this guy has no credibility it's like some low shade there it is his brother i love it can i ask you about how that half fits because I don't know it doesn't seem to fit as well as as a chuk bandanol special did he he he's had a sizing issue there as far as I'm concerned yeah yeah he's wearing I there's those I like the flat caps he's got one of those ones got like more of I don't know what they call this exactly like kind of more of a puffy

um brim there and he's wearing a little high on his head you know so maybe it is a it's a fit thing I don't know but he still looks and he still looks pretty good I mean accent comes off better because he's wearing it I think that uh it makes sense to it's something there like it amplifies the whole thing when you've got your entire family in one vehicle as well like you know and you pan around like you're not like here hiding the background there you're like full kid mode here it doesn't need to pull in and make a video about cave and Anthony Joshua's head in like far away dad why does everybody do we've talked about this before but what is the impulse when people are on the road or like in their cars at least road rage maybe they're like do you know what I need to get this out of my system maybe that's when yeah maybe when the thoughts are clearest you're like i guess well the world will be watching there's no doubt about that like and that is the truth like as much as we're kind of saying no buzz blah blah blah i feel like it's going to be massively viewed like there's going to be massive numbers attached to this as well like all my mates have been asking about it they're not like buzzing to see it or whatever but it's

so easy to just turn on netflix and check this out like i feel like it's going to do massive and it's going to like it's one of those things in prospect i think a lot of people are probably like you know whatever that's coming up but in the way that like if you knew a football game or whatever's coming up on Friday night you just kind of put it away until you get there I think maybe by the time you get to tomorrow night Friday night and everybody's just kind of like now fixing into what they're going to do that night that's probably when you'll feel it that it's about to happen and people talk about it and you get the random text from somebody like what the hell's Jake Paul thinking or whatever it is like I feel like that's when it's all going to happen as on fight night

should we mention Anderson Silva, 50 year old Anderson Silva be Tyrone Woodley? Like is that? No. No, I'm just kidding. We can mess with them if you want. Like, I get that these guys are icons and brilliant,

brilliant mixed martialitis. It just, it doesn't do anything for me. I look, fair play of the lads. I'm glad they're making money. It's just, it's not for me.

I've talked about this quite a bit. You know, when like, I mean, would it matter to you, I guess, if this was an MMA fight? Like,

if Anderson Silva's fighting Woodley right now, 50 years old versus whatever Woodley is Would that matter to you And would that speak to you on any level I'd say on a bad level It would speak to me You know I guess it's really weird when two MMA guys

Who are very good at it They're both champions Decide like let's do it with boxing gloves Because Maybe I'm the one who's wired wrong in this But I'm like well MMA The reason MMA was more desirable To watch and to cover than boxing

was the possibilities were way more. Like you had a lot more, there were a lot more offensive elements. There was a lot more defensive elements. There was a lot more nuance, way more ways to finish a guy. So there was all these different things. So when you go the opposite way and you say,

like, now we're just going to put on boxing gloves and we're not like highly, highly skilled boxers, but we're just older MMA guys. It never does it for me. I mean, I almost don't think there's a matchup of anybody. because Anderson someone would be the guy that you would want to see in the scenario because he was one of those dynamic strikers within MMA but for whatever reason man

I've just never been able to acquire the taste of of the of the MMA guys who face each other in the boxing ring it just has never happened for me you know no I agree I agree completely in fact I'll be so disappointed if the Diaz McGregor thing is settled in a boxing match which I do think is a possibility like if they're like it's obviously the clock is running out on that anyway being like a a very intriguing fight, but if they were to settle that and...

Is it running out more on Diaz now at this point than it is McGregor already or both? Both. I don't know. I really don't know. I think they've got to do it next year. That's, let's just not do it. Yeah.

Let's move on from this 10 years ago or whatever, you know? Yeah. Let's move on to MMA because that is what we, uh, we usually talk about. Sometimes. And, you know, we got a message there earlier. Didn't we chook that we would be glazing Tom Aspinel today? and shitting all over Dana and John Johns.

So here it goes. This is the segment. Tom Aspinel told Ariel that he was going to be a new evil Tom Aspinall. I'm not going to be as nice to everyone, he said. Cyril Gan, you know, just posting some cool snaps of him and Toy Tuwi Vassah getting down. Just, you know, felt cute, might delete later, you know, puts it up. And he said, no date yet. Tom Aspinall, well, this is the evil Tom Aspinall.

Well, this is the evil Tom Aspinall. I think we'll all been waiting for. No, shit, there's not a date yet. I'm not medically cleared to fight and about to have surgery thanks to your disgusting fingernails thumbs up. Emoji. I'll be back to smash your face in soon. You cheat.

Chuck your thoughts, please. Well, I'm not opposed to Tom Aspenol kind of like, you know, if he feels like this is a attack for him to kind of get back in there and for people to care on a bigger level, go for it. And honestly, like, he probably has been too nice. Like, there were so many times. And through the course of the John Jones ducking thing that he took a high road and you're like, we're not used to these high roads in fight game.

What are you doing? You know, like he would kind of like talk about it from, well, you know, and he would still give John his flowers and he would kind of talk about it in a way that was kind of down to earth. I wouldn't, I don't mind. I don't mind, man. Like, you're getting with the times if you're going to carry a little chip on your shoulder.

And he should. You know, I think that with, this is probably more aimed always at Dana White, right, in the, and the UFC, because, and I know that you've talked to his dad and this has been made clear, but they haven't done a good job with him, you know, it's like they just haven't done a good job. Like, they've, I don't know if they ever really marketed him to get him to the point where the fans would rally behind. I don't think they've gotten behind the UK thing enough. I don't think that, you know, that he was championed enough by Dana White, especially during that victory lap when he's talking about John. John Jones being the, Dana, I was talking about John Jones being the goat and the pound for pound king, and you have this guy who threatens all of that and has something to say about it. Like, I just didn't feel like, and I'm sure the cumulative toll of that, especially in a situation like this, where Dana was dismissive a little bit, you know, of the eye poke and the injury, it probably adds up. It probably does add into some kind of like, you know what, I'm fed up with this shit, you know what I mean?

and I feel like that's probably where he's at right now. You know, like you, you tell me, you, whoa, you've had the temperature of that room for a long time, but that's how it strikes me. Yeah, it's kind of like, um, do you know when you're in high school or secondary school, if you're from the UK and Ireland, and one of your mates starts going out with a girl when he's like 14 and he's just love struck and he'll do it. He's like, you know, she's the best thing out. Oh, you know, this is the best. I just want to spend all my time with this girl and what a wonderful time this is.

And, you know, one day, the girl just says, you know, fuck you, I'm going to, you know, I don't want to be with you anymore. And then you see the guy in his next relationship a few years down the line. And it's a very different approach that he's taking. Like, even though Thomas, I'm not trying to say he's at an easy time. Like, he had the knee thing with blades. But the game was always on his side. Like, everybody was always like, I can't wait for Tommy to come back. I can't wait to see what he does here.

the game flipped on him that night with the eye gouging gate um and i think this is his response being like you know like fuck this shit like what like you know why do i like what are you talking about cyril gan saying like i have no of course you don't have a date yet i'm getting a needle in my fucking eye in the next few weeks you know um i actually like it and i think cyril gan should like it too because do you remember the way we felt about that matchup on the way up to it i was one of the few guys being like, I think it's an interesting fight. Nobody was having a bar of it. I'm I crazy to think that a rematch between Gan and Aspinall could be one of the most anticipated fights of 2026. I'm like getting way too excited by saying that? No, I mean,

I think it will be in the sense that we love resolution, right? And I think that it was such a visible thing. It's going to be far bigger than the first match because of the reasons you said. I think most people saw it as like a consolation. Well, this is the consolation we get because they couldn't get John Jones and Tom Aspinall in the same room. And so here's Cyril gone. And we used to joke about that. Well, this ended up being Cyril gone. And sure enough, it's serial gone.

But the greatest part of this is the Cyril gone even without, you know, the eye gouge, was holding his own just fine. It was set in the table for a very good fight. And I think that that's what people will think about. And that's honestly what the UFC should latch on to when they're selling this fight again is that, hey, this thing was kind of going in a very interesting path. We're used to seeing Aspinall going there and just destroy guys in a round or less, you know, and it's just that wasn't going to be the case. So I think that there will be bigger intrigue. And if there's some bad blood to it, it's all, you know, more power to it. But I will say that at least people are talking about Aspinall this time through.

I felt like the last time, you know, whatever amount of months it was where he, you know, since the interim defense or whatever to the time he steps back in there. it just he didn't really have like it was weird he kind of kept himself in the in the talk but it was not with like a you know it wasn't like this fiery thing to talk about tom espinal but it kind of feels that way now and i feel like it's because he he has that chip on his shoulder and i i think he kind of finds himself defensive because he's proven a lot but nobody gives him that credit really you know and you have so many people mocking him and i feel like it's a i i'm intrigued i'm intrigued to see what you're he comes back as one of my friends was saying this to me um just a quote like a week ago he was going to say imagine being legitimately a guy who can be like i am one of the greatest fighters in the world i'm a heavyweight like this is the maximum weight class you can fight in i can destroy most men in the world maybe all like you probably have a good argument for all of them and there's people being like what a you know oh this guy backed out of a fight he didn't want it like imagine how fucking frustrating that is like every day like I like I know I know for a fact that

there's so much media on fight week things that champions you know they they tend to taper off as we know as media guys yeah when they get the belt they're all for it and then it's like all right well maybe we'll do a bit less of this I'm not doing every single one of these things Tom sits there and does every single one of them. I can imagine a very different approach next time. I can imagine him protecting his energy a lot more. Like being like, like, why am I giving these people my time? Like, it's clear based on what he said to Ariel that there is a bit of disdain for how the UFC treated him, which, you know, we talked about at the top of this segment.

Yeah. And it's very easy to understand where he's coming from in that regard. But I do expect the reaction and I'm very intrigued to see that because I don't expect the different Cyril Gan necessarily. I'm just expecting a very different Tom Aspel and a very different context and just backdrop to the fight in terms of public perception, which is very, very exciting for me. Yeah, and your biggest hope is that he's just, this thing doesn't drag on in some way where he loses an enormous amount of time again. Because you would then, like, he'd start to take on the look of one of those guys, you're like, man, if we could have only replaced, yeah, what could have been those three years with there or whatever it is of his. prime that you never got and I'm like that's what I for him you know and for us like you want to find out obviously why do you watch the game why do you watch emma why you watch you see well it's

always to find out who's the best is right this is what fuels the whole thing I don't want to like not know through this era if Aspinall was that guy or not you know it's like at some point you want to be able to to have those answers so I just hope it's not like a long you know I hope that whatever's going on with his eye that they get it solved and he feels like he's good to go sooner rather than later. Yeah, I mean, that is the thing. Like, we, we're genuinely don't know when this is going to happen, if this will happen. Like, he, he could not eliminate the idea of never fighting again on, on that interview.

And that's so sad. Can you imagine if he, can you imagine if he, like, you know, we've seen some divisions in the past that they kind of go sideways and they never, like they go off on a detour and it's almost like they never kind of returned. Like, Connor McGregor thing did this a little bit, but like, that heavyweight division given where it was you know going back to Francis and Gano

and like where it ended up with Jones and then the way that Miotr, you know, not Miotr, Aspinol and then for him to nut and then for gone. I mean, it would be like one of those things you'd be like this makes no sense. Like this was the most, you know,

jagged path ever and it just straight off. It never came back. We never got, we never got back on course to anything of what we thought we were going to get. um that's i hate that that's the one thing about the the situation that i'm like let's not have that man yeah yeah is the word cheat too extreme like obviously we heard we heard uh his definition of the situation and you can understand if the dude is going through the thing he's going through he and we saw the video of andy his father breaking down the video of the

constantly extended fingers and being like well what what else is that if you're doing this every time this guy's trying to engage you in a fight what else is is it. Do you think that's how the public see this, or do you think it's so, it's so regular, it's so normal to see oi pox in MMA that it's just not going to feel that way.

Well, that's why it feels to say cheat is very deliberate, right? Like your cheat, you deliberately did this. I don't know if he deliberately did it. You know, was he in cautious with it? Maybe, but I'm like, I don't know, that's why that feels extreme. That's all. But, you know, if you want to do that, then

and especially Tom Asmel, be careful of the John Jones, request because that's a guy who always has his fingers out and you know you have multiple players over the course of time who've been like he's the worst ipoker there is you know you talk to dom rea's and dude get him going on it sometime it's like he's very mad you know uh glover tashara has his share of that of that story you know it's like you talk to certain guys and they're like man he's a bad offender when it comes to ipokes so but a cheat like you know i don't know if i'd go that far. If Cyril O'Gong comes out

and says like, yeah, I was like, I did it on private. I would like, all right, he's a cheat, you know. I did it. I was trying to cast his fucking eyeballs out, okay? But isn't it, isn't it just curious to fathom how how John Jones would be refereed in 2026? Because we have seen a clear reaction

to that heavyweight fight. It is not, they are not messing around with that shit anymore. If you're coming in like this, there's way more warnings than usual. And John's just like this. Yeah. I know every job is like you know you know that's what's so funny we were talking about like fight pass and you're like well it happens to fight pass and what you like the library but if you ever go back and watch old fights it's crazy how the like the minor things that start to happen but like you're mentioning guys like that that used to be just common like guys did this all the time like it's it's a lot different these days and at least in some way if you go back and watch like earlier fights and I'm not talking like you know pre-zufa I'm talking about like 15 years ago you know even 12 years ago like so many people were doing that sort of thing and they've at least kind of planted it enough where there's been small change through the time

you know what i mean like we sometimes are like everything's exactly the same i think there are some minor like minor details that are getting sorted out over the course of time yeah yeah um well look it's going to be interesting to see how that one plays out and hopefully and we hear that tom is ready to get going sooner or rather than later these things kind of be rushed he's still going through it which is absolutely crazy you know and that needle in the eye I mean I hope they knock them out for that shit like how could you

actually wouldn't like they have to give them some anesthetic for that there's no way you're expected to sit there with a massive needle no right right uh uh oh that's horrible to think about don't even talk about that week's the worst shit that's ever happened it's supposed to be a Christmas show man yeah fuck sorry hey

crackmas yeah crackmas okay On to more depressing news. Movlid Kabiliof of the PFL, their Featherweight tournament champion, has pissed hot chuk. He is going to, let me just get this PFL post up here. Here we go, here we go. The PFL, the Professional Fighters League, has been notified by the United States anti-doping agency that athlete Movlid Kabiloev tested positive for a banned substance following his bout at the 2025 PFL World Tournament finals held on August 1st in Atlantic.

City, New Jersey. PFUFUAL rules and regulations, Caballiof has been disqualified from the 2025 PFL World Tournament. As a result of the disqualification under PFL rules, Caballiof forfeits the distinction of 2025 PFL Fedaway Tournament Champion,

the championship belt, and all associated bonus awards. It's very interesting. The PFL maintains a zero tolerance policy toward the use of performance enhancing substances and remains fully committed to the highest standards of fair competition athlete safety and integrity in the sport.

He is of course from Habib's team who there is a lot of speculation about out there which has been obviously ramping up here but yeah, crazy one Chuck another top tier guy gets done and the reactions online have been pretty fierce here like I know we've got a few there Jordan different reactions. Brendan Locke now lost to this guy

in 2021 and you know Brendan's been great success story, a legend of the UK scene, a great, a great fighter of a PFL, but this is what he's saying. This fight literally cost me millions of dollars. Lost a split decision and that was in 2021 to a known cheater. The sport is wild. We also saw, um, was it Al Jermaine Sterling weighing in on this? Aljo. People think these drug tests stop fighters or any athlete from cheating. L.O.L. you'll kill me. There's so many people on shit still. I remember all athletes. I respect all but how do you respect willful cheating you can't and you shouldn't and you know i'm looking through the comments on this is like active ufc for it is like mason jones saying like you should

be banned for life once this happens of course what did you what was what do you i think it's six months but what did he what was in a system i don't uh let me i don't think that has been revealed i think this is the only stuff that's i mean these are like the the the harshness of what they're saying here i mean i can i get it like if you're if f f f fl's taking that action right right, um, it's got to be something substantial, I would think because, uh, I don't, you know, and then, but these reactions, I'm like, what if it's, oh, it's, oh, okay, there you go then. I think it's, okay. Let me just make sure about that. I think I saw it earlier and now I just shouted that out there and I'm not sure and I'm afraid. Yes, uh, test it positive for

recombinant erthropyatine. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, man. That is. Well, it's a uh i do i kind of i mean we've been around this a long time and we cut you you always hear the whisperings um of everything kind of going on and it i'm always surprised we don't sometimes i'm like are they really testing people like they used to are they even testing as much as they used to and then so when somebody gets popped like i guess they are but then you're always like i'm surprised it's not more frequent you know um but that's a that's bad for it's it's bad for the pfl who's you know like you're trying to get you're trying to be that kind of viable number two and you've got the names that you have that are you know you're

showcasing and to get one of those to have now an asterisk to it is not good it's just that's just bad for everybody right it's just bad for everybody yeah it's i'm interested in this because there is um an Irish for an hour speaking briefly before we went live uh will flor who I know well, who I covered for a long time. He, um, he fell the drug test with PFL during the light heavyweight tournament a few years back, but since then he's gone on to have great success with Octagon. You know, Eastern European promotions? Oh, yeah, of course.

He's like one of the faces of the promotion now. But it's like you never shake that, you know, like, I don't know, like, am I wrong in thinking that is there any athlete that has successfully kind of completely shaken this? I know, obviously, like, someone brought up to me today where we were speaking about this and they brought up Islam Makashchev who failed the drug test once but he was cleared later and then they were like

well what about Usman and Magamadoff fought Paul Hughes he failed he failed for a medication and then volunteered himself to the Vada list for a year to clear his name you know Vada you know just to be like look I just want to make sure everybody thinks

and that's when he actually fought Paul Hughes I believe was that January the first fight was just after that 12 month stint I mean not to say like that that's absolved him completely but I mean you'll hear rumblings on the guys like John Jones even, right? Because he...

Oh, yeah. Rumblings? But I'm saying like, he still carries the same stigma for some people like that. Once he's a cheat, you're a cheat forever, you know? Some people are going to hold that. It's funny because what's this cat's name? The dude from PFL. Mavledad. So he

had fought Daniel Paneda. Remember back in like 2019 got knocked out? I think it would have been his only lost, but that dude got busted. He popped hot for some substance and ended up having a UFC career and kind of moving off from that. So I mean, like

I feel like it's, it's it almost comes down to the size of your own star because I'm like, if you're a person who is very like in the spot like a John Jones, well, it's going to, it's going to be remembered a little more by a wider swat of people. In this kind of thing,

especially in the PFL where I don't even sure diehards pay that close of attention sometimes what's going on in the PFL. You may be able to survive this, right? like we'll see but it kind of sucks because this dude is he hadn't lost i mean that was his one loss the one i'm talking about it was a savage he's a savage so it's like and he comes from that team and that's they've kind of been taking some ls in these other ways like that that whole habib you know the whole aura it's kind of taken some some bruising over the course of

the last year or two it's kind of it's an interesting thing i never thought i they almost felt and vulnerable for a long time, you know? Yeah, it's, in a way, like, as much as it's like a bad thing for PFL, because this guy is obviously a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant fire they have on their roster. It's kind of also like, you know, especially when they go to Dubai, right? Like, when they go to Dubai and they have the Nomagra Madoffs on there, there's this idea that it's like, it's their show in the same way as like, you know, the Dublin shows for Bellator back in the day where, like, they're SBG's shows.

Oh, you better not fight an SBG guy on that. show you know like this is this is essentially for them it's kind of like it's kind of good in a way that they're like we're calling this shit out like this guy's going to be punished and i don't know if you're going to get that tournament prize money back i don't know how that works if he's like well i fucking spent it like what are we going to do here you know but uh in a way it's one way for pfl to make some more money huh give us back our money they just fuck everyone that wins the tournament's like he's on drugs he's on drugs but you know i am giving pfl a big change chance this year like they're going to Madrid and the new CEO talked to Ariel on a show

I was very impressed with them and and they have something in Europe if not obviously in America so you know at least they have a plan coming into this year I was like I don't know what the hell they're doing did anybody know what the hell they were doing no and I think it's their last chance I don't think any fan is like oh you know let's let's see how long this can go if they don't hit this year it's going to be a struggle for them and it already is a strong struggle, but there's a kind of renewed optimism around PFL, and they really have to knock it out of the park this year. So here's to hope it. Here's the hope. Yeah. It's a hopeful time of year, of course. Merry Christmas, everyone. Please, sir. No, wrong. We've, we've spoke about

Zuckerberg and how brilliant of a talent he is before on this show. You know, mixing up with Alex Pereira. We saw it. You know, did he take Pereira down? Absolutely. He did. And Pereira better be fucking careful or he might come into the light heavyweight division and shut his whole legacy down but here he is there training with Marab scoring some look at this Marab he has him backing up

take down takes down Marab what does Marab do in reply oh he's nearly got the back Marab he can't let this happen on grammar what's going on slap that is a full I uh there's a like I watched the full

like kind of tape and I mean just kind of off naked eye one watching I actually, I scored it for Zuck. Like, I thought he actually won that, you know? It's a renewed interest in the Elon Musk v. Mark Zuckerberg fight. Now until we see some Elon footage. Oh, my God. Yeah, what the fuck?

Apparently, didn't he used to say he was a street fighter back in the day or something? Don't believe that. Never, I knew some street fighters growing up, Chuck. None of them quite look like that. None of them are quite like Elon Musk in any fathomable way. Um, I do think it's, I mean, the dude loves MMA, like this guy's like, I mean, like, I saw him when I went to the Pereira fight, um, you know, sitting there cage side. It's just, I mean, I give him that, like he seems to really, really love it. It's not like just as some passing fancy. Um, he seems like, you know, look at that footwork. You look like he was. Unteniable. Like, the ability is undeniable, but aside from that, isn't it weird that these, oh, Al Javan, we've already heard. heard from Al Jermaine with the drug test. Let's hear what he has to say about Zuck.

Zuck did great. There you go. Shut my mouth. Marab gave him a real life full comma, full MMA experience without going too hard. Okay. On the power,

but gave him intensity, speed and great control. Zuck stayed in it. He received his instructions and did his best as a very successful man who was fascinated in love for the sport

of what we do. Remember, he does not need to do this at all. I always respected him and success and success and now that respect is is even her it's like a it's like what i used to get in the report card back from school when i was in junior infants or whatever you kindergarten or whatever you guys call it over there my god well yeah i mean they like suck i'm not 100 sure why but i have a good idea yeah i do kind of understand

is it weird that these billionaires use like our sport to like all the time man it's so fucking weird like you know did you see katarov take down shamiyev i'm just asking because that's what that's also very similar right yeah he katov had like shemoyov getting beaten up with his teenage children like i want more idea like what the fuck there's something happens like i don't know what it is like shemaiah is nearly ready to bull that those in Gary through several walls for touching his back. And we're supposed to be like, this teenager

fucked him up. You know, it's interesting. But yeah, that's probably for another day. It's Christmas, as we said. Yeah. Time of Goodwill, a time of Cherchuk. We got some good news about Kane Velasquez, apparently eligible for parole in February.

Some pictures of him surfaced in prison there. He is looking in a fantastic shape. I mean, I know it's a crazy, crazy story, but I think I'm with most of the in my community here by saying, like, we're very happy to hear that this man has an exit insight from the judicial system. Yeah, 100%. And this, the incident in question that he's serving for was in 2022, right? And there was a, there was at that point when that happened as a shock, remember, we're all like, what?

Oh, my God. And then you hear the details and you're like, well, what is a father supposed to do? And it wasn't, you know, you can empathize with why he lost his, you know, why he lost his, you know, why he did what he did, you know. But when it was happening, I was really worried we wouldn't hear from him for many, many, many years. I was afraid that he would go away for,

you know, 10 years, 12 years, 15 years. The fact that we're at the back of 2025 and we're having this conversation that in a couple of months he could be out, it's the best case scenario for that guy. And you've talked to him before? Like you've... Briefly.

I've never, like, sat down for a formal interview and I've met him at once. not the kind of guy and I get it disarmingly polite person very polite and that's all I was going to say like he's just he's a

you know salt of the earth type of guy always had great conversation when if you talk to anybody who's really hung around like you know DC and all those guys up in that area like they all have that same opinion and I know he's got big love

from the MMA community I had actually really wanted to do a piece knowing that he wouldn't be in you know in the prison for very long where you visit him there And you do something like that because obviously he's not on social media

He's not doing this thing And I thought it could work But It was very difficult to kind of arrange As you can imagine And I do think that they might be working On some kind of documentary Or something like that with him

So I feel like there's something in the works That I probably give us a behind the scenes Look as to how he's been handling all of this Sure, you got to No, we've got to revisit this We have got to get you out there before February No man, I wanted to but you only if he gets out in February that's only two months from now pizzi i know but i want to

somehow implant you into that situation whether he likes it or not just gets you over there please speak to chuk kane come on ariel pull some fucking strings here come on we can get we can make this happen um that's pretty much all we've got this is the end of the crack for 2025 um we want to thank you all for listening it's been a fantastic adventure and thank you so much to chuk and Ben for doing this with me every week and on air Jordan the legend the legendary Oscar Losef everyone in the team

Andy who had the chip in when Jordan was on a six month vacation fair play Jordan we all need vacations you know I'm not saying anything about that just remember though that we had a choice to go to Miami me and Chuck Ben everyone and we were like no

we are not going to do that boys in the back this usual slot they didn't think twice they were gone Jordan, how quickly can you speak on this just for a second? How quickly that those guys turn down the opportunity to do their own show today with me left here to pick up the pieces with Chuck? He's not speaking.

No, he's not going to come. You know, he's not going to come. Come on. Look, there. That's what I'm saying. The crack would never do that to you, people, you know? There's actually, if you are starved? I know we're doing a show on Monday still, but I'm just saying if you are starved for

UFC, I mean, MMA, Jesus, over the Christmas period, Octagon on October 20, December 28 with the aforementioned Will Flurry, will be on. He is fighting Martin Boudet who you'll remember was famously cut after he beat Buccecha. So it's a

big time fight for Flurry, a man who still believes the UFC window is open. I'm going to try and get a word with Will Flurry. He is a great name. It's Will fucking Flurry. They make the notes or say that before I go and here he is Will fucking

Floris oh man see that was what Jim Miller stick should have been for the longest time we were always like it's gotta be your that's got to be your you know your nickname but

Bruce Buffer would not do it he would not go along too classy well octagon they don't they don't have them same restrictions what's the Christmas going to be like for you Chuck Denver Broncos's got a few games he's looking for Broncos play on Christmas night

at Kansas City so well you're going to win that fun well they should now i mean there's no patrick mahomes so it's uh that should happen but we'll be in uh actually i won't be too far from there i'm gonna be in st louis uh wife's family hanging out there in the middle of the country you know where bud wiser is brood right there and everybody's homes do you take torrents going like to your your family or or rebecca's like based on is that usually the trick or do you is usually host it yourselves or what happens um i'd say traditionally we've, there are plenty of years

we went to both, but that's, those days are past, man, we go to Denver, we go to St. Louis. Now it's kind of one or the other, but it's been St. Louis the last couple of times for various reasons, but yeah, how about you? You stick around there? I stay in Blanche and I used to

complain about having to move around Blanche a lot and now I'm listening to this going, no, you know, I had it pretty good. We host, we do a Christmas breakfast here, me and Alain do and then we'll go to my parents' house for dinner and then the next day we'll go to align's mom and dad's for dinner so yeah that's a whole some time yeah that's good man that's good George's your first your first uh Christmas as a father as well I mean geez it's it's it's all

going here me it's gonna be a well take pictures he's not no he's not he's not he doesn't care okay well look well look this is what we have um do we have um do we have any super chats, Jordan, before we leave these beautiful people. Oh, too. Johnny Sloan. 24 inch doves. Merry, happy Christmas, pizza and chook. Oh, he say happy Christmas. People don't like that shit. They don't like it.

No. But happy Christmas to you, 24 inch shrubs. Merry Christmas. How does it have to be Mary? Mary, I just never use the word merry anyway, you know, so it doesn't feel right. Well, nobody does unless they're saying Merry Christmas. That's fair. He was, he was. was merry you'd say like they're like he was shit face last night they'd say yeah he was just a bit merry no i like that but no i have not used it that way i might though i might start using that

that's pretty good anything else there on there jordan the crack equals b it for grownups love y'all oh look at that garlic laying down some knowledge with some swedish currency i believe gotta love it i mean all that money must go to jordan i don't know jordan that's where he gets all them vacations yeah i mean he's probably planning right now where am i going to go next it was the bahamas and i believe he was in tokyo for a little while this year yeah eric jane yeah drake the new champion the new champion yeah the champion yeah the champion it shouldn't go to big time bent folks i tell you that which he doesn't need he's got a lot of money as is all right these b dog thank you for a year of laughter on

unmatched curls pzies oh thank you thank you thank you you. The curls had a hard time. We had a real growing this year, I feel. You know, we took it a new direction. Happy holidays to all the ungrounded crew, including, wow, you didn't have to be that nice, but I mean, he is a lovely guy sometimes, including

Ben, big time folks. I mean, does he deserve that? No. But, I mean, we'll appreciate it. I appreciate it. That all we got, Jordan? Oh my God, there's the music. Well, look, lads, it's been a wonderful year. have a fantastic

have a merry Christmas there you go it feels not awesome Chuck I love you very much I hope you and yours have a fantastic holiday likewise

on air Jordan Oscar Losef all you have a wonderful time hope Ben has a nice one too if I'm being completely honest yeah we've been pizza Carol and Chuck Benin Hall

we love you so much enjoy the holidays and we'll be back in January mhm Thank you.