The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC 314 Miami mega preview, Ariel Helwani joins for breaking GFL news | The Boys in the Back
Episode Date: April 10, 2025The Boys in the Back are joined by Ariel Helwani to discuss the breaking news about GFL's future (02:51), before bringing their best Miami vibes to a UFC 314 mega preview (27:55).Plus, they make their... picks (1:11:36), roll out a Fight Feasts focused on pie... or is it pi? (1:40:33), and give their P4P pie rankings (1:52:38).Finally, they debut the brand new voicemail segment (2:08:16) and answer your Super Chats (2:21:15).
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What is good?
We are back with another episode of The Boys in the Back.
This time ahead of UFC 314 down in Miami.
If you notice, we got the beach balls,
we got the flamingos, the pink and the blue.
I am one half, I guess one third.
Someone corrected me last week. I am one third of The Boys in the Back, I am one half, I guess one third, someone corrected me last week,
I am one third of the boys in the back, I am Connor,
this is the man, the myth, the poser himself,
the statue, Mr. New York Rick.
How's Frankie doing back there?
Yeah, yeah, the third one.
The last third of the boys in the back.
Yeah, we don't have to do that, but I'm doing great.
Was it you, was it your burner that was like,
GC so disrespectful, he says one half of the boys in the back
when there is three of us.
I mean, look, we got you on the desk.
Right here on the table.
I'm right there.
I appreciate it with the shades and everything.
Something wrong with your nose.
It feels like your nose, something's going on.
Yeah, my nose is, it fell off.
I had to glue it back up.
Yeah, is that a recent picture?
Very recent.
Yeah, unfortunately we are not in sunny Miami.
We are in New York.
Weather not quite as nice, but it'll do and we still get to watch the card
on Saturday night, which will be a phenomenal,
phenomenal card.
Scale of one to 10, where are we at?
I'm at like, I was thinking about this earlier in the week.
I feel like I'm at like a seven or eight.
I'm really excited about this card,
but I gotta be honest, like the buzz doesn't feel super high
and I think it's missing a little bit of that just like somebody to take the energy and run with
it maybe we'll get that at the press conference maybe later today you know
John Silva and Bryce will get into some kind of thing or Patty and Michael
Chandler but it's kind of felt a little bit low-key a little ho-hum right now so
I'm at like a solid seven I'm'm excited about the card, but I need something
to like push my energy up a little bit.
When I was like really looking through it
as we have the card on the screen right now,
when I was really starting to look through it,
my excitement is at like a nine out of 10.
I'm excited for the press conference tonight.
I can't wait.
The main card is absolutely stacked.
I feel like there's just a lot of fights
that are gonna end up having carnage.
That's fair, and I'm with you.
I really like the card, but don't you feel like there's just something missing? Like that are gonna end up having carnage. That's fair and I'm with you I really like the car but don't you feel like there's
just something missing like usually by this point in Fight Week we get something like I'm
just waiting for something. Media Day nobody really said anything. I've been
watching the Embeddeds I'm getting pretty excited. Alright fair enough. We will get
into all of that we will get into fight fees for UFC 314 we'll do our all our
bets our picks and we'll debut a brand new segment, voicemails.
Yes.
We've got the number 415-SUP-BITB. We got a bunch of voicemails, honestly,
way more than I was expecting. We'll go through a few of those later and answer your super chats.
But before we do any of that, last night we got some breaking news reported first by our very own
Ariel Hawani. The GFL has postponed their first event, canceled.
Don't say postponed, Ariel's gonna be mad.
Up in the air right now,
but the Memorial Day weekend double whammy is canceled.
So let's go to Ariel Hawani standing by
to give us all the information.
Ariel, what's up, man?
This was supposed to be your day off.
Now here you are having to work.
No, no days off in this business, guys And thank you for saying that Rick, because I was
just about to get all in my feelings.
It's not postponed.
It's canceled.
In fact, I was just having that conversation with
Frank and Andy before we came on how that's a pet
peeve of mine.
Is it happening on May 24th and 25th?
No.
So that means it's canceled.
And yes, they have canceled their first two
events, the GFL that is.
I was hearing some whispers about this
early portion of the week
Reached out to Andy Foster of the California State Athletic Commission and it's worth repeating the gold standard
And why do I say this because when I found out that they were going to hold their first two events in California
I did reach out to Andy and he was very, very honest and forthright about his
concerns and told me about the steps that he was making them go through in order
for him to feel comfortable, give them the okay and allow this to proceed.
And, uh, unfortunately his concerns kind of, you know, uh, they, they all kind
of came to roost over the last couple of days. And, uh, it's, it's a very unfortunate situation.
I say unfortunate for the fighters, you know, a lot of these fighters, uh, tail
end of their careers looking for that one last payday, but let's be honest, a
lot of us saw this coming.
And so where do we stand right now?
Uh, right now, those events that were scheduled for the shrine auditorium in
Los Angeles on
the campus of the University of South Carolina, excuse me, Southern California, there's two
USCs out there, so it's confusing.
There's the Trojans, there's the Gamecocks.
Anyway, those events aren't happening.
And there was somewhat like 31 fights scheduled for those two days.
Those fights aren't happening. Now I did have a text conversation with Darren Owen, the founder of the GFL,
who told me that, you know, they're not dead.
They're hoping to find a solution to all of this.
In fact, this is his exact quote, working on a solution.
My main investor didn't fulfill his April obligation, which has caused a problem.
I'll keep you posted, but I believe we'll be able
to work through it.
I think we can make it happen for June.
He did add, additionally, I don't foresee the event
taking place in California.
That would be the June event.
Now we also know that there was a couple of June events
scheduled for New York, Long Island, UBS Arena,
but we absolutely, he added, we'll keep pushing forward.
He said that he thinks that he's going to have to push that June 15, 16 weekend and
that he will be confirming that as soon as possible.
He said it's been frustrating.
It's been a frustrating week, but I think there's a solution in place.
So we shall see.
I will say, I will add, that there isn't a lot of optimism and there's a lot of people
who are kind of just moving on if something
Materialized is great
But I think a lot of the fighters and managers that I spoke to think that this was a never was and so I do think
It is important to bring up two points
We here on the program dating back to the first time we had Darren Owen on I believe in when?
December of 21 we have covered this saga, if you will,
but I want people to understand, it's crazy that I do have to say this,
that covering a story is not endorsing a story. We cover the good, the bad,
the ugly of all combat sports and in particular, mixed martial arts.
And I bring this up because I have seen some jabronis out there try to say like, oh, you led the fighters astray. Oh, you endorse this. This is all your fault. And so I will say,
A, the next time Darren Owen resurfaced, which was in December of 2024 or maybe late November,
whenever they made that, you know, announcement, the vast majority, I would say 90% of the fighters
were already signed. So there was
a what a three-year gap between conversations. We never talked about this. They were already signed.
Woodley was getting paid. Pettis was getting paid. Kevin Lee was getting paid. These guys were already
on retainers. They were on monthly salaries. We had nothing to do with that. It's absolutely
ludicrous. No one asked me about anything. I didn't steer anyone in this direction. And in fact,
there was one manager, one manager that had two offers on the table.
I won't say who it was and I won't say who the fighter was.
They asked me what I thought of the two offers.
I told them to go in the opposite direction because I did not have high hopes for this.
I think we talked on the show, guys, what did we say?
We'll set the line at one and a half.
And, and, and we were kind of wondering if they would even make it to that one.
And so you can sit here and listen to me tell you hey we had nothing to do this i can't even believe that the
conversation has to go in this direction but i feel that it's being thrown in my face enough
to where we have to respond don't listen to me tell tell you this now go back to january when
i was going off on the pfl and when i was going off on gfl and i said and i
quote
this is dead on arrival that's d o a this is in january before the draft
don't believe me
take a look
season format
sucks
standing suck points suck convoluted no one cares now do me this one favor get
rid of the belt make who's mind or mugomedov versus Paul Hughes for the PFL lightweight title. Why are
you holding on to Bellator? It means nothing, no one cares. I see some people
doing the Vince McMahon meme crying, you did not care. No one cares. Get rid of it.
Toss it in the bin. It's done, it's dead, no one cares. Call it the PFL title, make
all those champions PFL champions, you're welcome for the advice and move on already. And a word to the GFL, get rid of your format too,
because you're dead on arrival. I'm sorry, but I'm tired of all these ridiculous formats. Just make
the fights, make the best fights, make the most interesting fights, make the juiciest fights,
make the best rivalries into fights. That's it. It's not that hard. That's it. Look at what the UFC is doing. It boggles my mind. Look at what they're
doing. You have to have a different product. I get it. You have to
provide some kind of alternative. I get it. But if they are doing something great,
you don't have to reinvent the wheel because the audience has told you
already that this is what they want. From press conferences to matchmaking to fights, just put on the best fights possible.
That's it. Nothing else.
No one's getting invested in any type of gimmick, any type of format.
That is it.
Yeah, and so the format was the problem and the finances were the problem as well.
I see Campbell McLaren.
Campbell McLaren is a very old, bitter, crusty man who thinks that he deserves a lot of credit
for the launch of the UFC.
He was there in the early days, but it was Bob Meyerwitz and the Gracie family that started
the UFC.
He has an outfit called Combate Global.
He said to me, you're at fault for this because one of my fighters left me to go sign with
the dream that is GFL.
I don't even know who this person is, if I'm being 100% honest with you.
You don't cover us, you covered them, you covering them is an endorsement.
And so I go back to something that I said just seconds ago.
We cover the good, the bad, the ugly of combat sports.
Campbell, we don't cover the irrelevant, all right?
And I'm sorry, it ain't relevant to talk about your outfit.
And I know you tried to be my best friend on text message and you have a different tone
publicly because it's cool to sometimes take a shot at the king.
I understand that, but the GFL signing
some of the biggest names in the history of the sport
to ludicrous contracts that seemed very farfetched
was always going to be, as I said, in that clip
and many other times, dead on arrival.
It's a sad, unfortunate story.
It ain't the first time a promotion will come and go. We covered Affliction, we covered Elite XC, IFL, Strikeforce, many others.
And unfortunately it won't be the last time.
Yeah.
So a lot to unpack there.
Um, I'm going to throw this question out.
Maybe, maybe this is not asking you for, for an insight that you have
through these conversations, but more just for conversation, for general thought.
Number one, the two things that came to mind for me for number one, when, insight that you have through these conversations, but more just for conversation, for general thought.
Number one, the two things that came to mind for me, for number one, when Darren Owen
says that they're working on a solution, in your mind and based on that conversation,
what does a solution look like?
Is it just an investment?
Is it an investment from that same person?
What does this solution look like that does get them to do? I think it's funds, but I think he's quite frankly, he's, he's trying to stay afloat.
Like I'm doing the thing that you do in the water
when you're trying to doggy paddle, like that's
what he's trying to do.
And it was, it was, it was too far fetched.
You can't sign that many fighters to these massive,
massive deals when they're on the back nine.
And again, my, my heart goes out to the fighters
because who
wouldn't want to believe in this, who wouldn't want to sign up for this?
Uh, all these fighters deserve all that.
And then some, I get it.
Uh, but you have to build small, you have to work your way up.
We've talked about the strike force model back in the day.
And we've talked about, you know, doing things the right way.
It can't just be about these, you know, big names and overpaying these guys. And you have to be strong and you have to be strong and you have to work your way up. We've talked about the strike force model back in the day. We've talked about, you know, doing things the right way.
It can't just be about these, you know, big names
and overpaying these guys.
And you have to be strategic about overpaying this guy,
that guy, but you know, there's a greater story here as well.
Like I think, you know, could they get one maybe,
but like honestly, that would be shocking to me
at this point.
To me, it's a story that has come and gone, the GFL that is.
What would one even accomplish?
Are you saying one event or one investment?
He just wants to survive.
Like, you know, he just wants to survive.
This is his reputation.
Who knows if he can work in combat sports again.
And this is the guy who has worked in combat sports
for many, many years,
had a world series of fighting, Canada,
and had a Canadian promotion and all this stuff.
The bigger question is the state of the MMA business. We know what the MMA business is, it's the UFC,
they are the top dog, but the MMA business has always had a 2, 3, 4 and 5.
That does not exist. PFL isn't paying as much as they once did. The Bellator
number 2 brand doesn't exist. 1 isn't paying nearly as much for MMA fighters.
GFL was that hope. It doesn't exist.
And that's not good for the business.
It's the reason why I say AEW is great for pro wrestling,
because they give guys opportunity and girls opportunities to make money.
You need that for a healthy combat sports landscape.
Boxing has that to a degree with many different suitors and more to come.
So that to me is honestly the bigger story here.
This was like the Trojan horse, if you will.
It was an unbelievable Trojan host in the sense
that it didn't seem real.
Um, and here we go canceled May 24th and 25th
doesn't look like 15th and 16th.
Who knows what's to come, but I could tell you most
of the fighters, if not all of the fighters that I
spoke to in managers don't believe that this is
going to come around.
And they just will see signed contracts. They'll see $0 from this.
It will essentially just be nothing
but a waste of their time.
Actually, there are some lucky ones who got signing
bonuses, who got monthly salaries.
There are some people who, who, who made off quite
well, without having to do anything.
Are there fighters that could take legal action
against, against GFL for, for not seeing through their contract.
I had a lawyer reach out to me, uh, who's a big
MMA fan who brought up that exact point.
It's a great question.
Um, who said, if a fighter can prove that he
turned down a deal to go this route, there's a
potential route there.
I'm not advocating for that.
I'm not suggesting anyone do that, but he
brought this up to me.
He's like, look,
it's this isn't as easy as just, hey, we're canceling the event. Sorry, everyone, go home.
You know what I mean? Yeah. But and it's even get dicey. It's even further muddled by a, the fact
that they're calling it a post moment, right? Cause they can say to you, no, no, no, we're,
we're going to pay you, but it's going to be at this future event that may or may not
even happen. And B, unless I'm mistaken, they
were not under exclusive deals, right? So it
would be hard to say you were unable to do X
because of Y when there was no exclusivity,
right? They're able to compete for other
promotions and then that.
I did hear from some promoters who felt like
this dream was being fed to fighters.
The salaries were, or the purses were so
inflated that they were starting to feel like
the marketplace outside of the UFC was getting
very difficult to navigate because everyone was
like, I'll just take this better deal from the
GFL when a lot of these promoters were feeling
like that, that isn't going to come to fruition.
You're making a mistake.
Yeah.
It's fantasy dollars.
It's monopoly money.
Yeah.
Essentially that's what I told this one person that was my
sense of the situation and you know now they have to
live with those actions. Okay, one more question for you. Again
just for conversation, I don't know if you'll necessarily have a specific
piece of reporting on this, but to the point GC asked when you said
they're trying to get one event done,
what's the point of one event?
And then even beyond that, what was the point
from an investor or from Darren's perspective
in investing in this and then pulling the plug, right?
You've now spent all the money that you've said
that some people made off pretty well out of this.
Right, like you made it this far.
You got the poster out, you got the event book,
you got the fighters book, You had everything ready to go.
How did it, how did it trip up at the very last minute?
Speaking of the poster, you brought this up.
The real winner in all of this is the cage
warriors admin who is spiking the football.
I mean, they were, they were in a beef like a
month ago and now.
I mean, it's a 10-6 for the cage warriors.
I mean, that's a dream day as a social media admin.
Yes, well done.
Imagine waking up over in Europe and you're just like,
wait, what happened to the GFL?
Yeah, no, well done to that guy.
Or girl, or whomever that is.
Well done to them.
I just think they had an investor and look,
yeah, poster's good, lineup's good, draft's good,
but think about how much it costs to put on an event.
And what did we always say?
You can't do this without a broadcast deal.
And that event was coming up in a month and a half
with no broadcast deal.
I know they had been talking to some people,
pay-per-view would have been a nightmare,
would have been a disaster.
You can't do this without a broadcast deal.
That's how you get your funds, especially off the bat.
Ticket sales a little bit, but you're an unknown commodity commodity and so not having that upfront money is a is a death knell
And so my sense of it was you know, they they could foresee a massive massive financial crater
Developing around them and they said I'm out no mass. It's a
It's baffling because and I think I've made this point on the Ariel
Hauwani show when we talked about this, if you were not ready to take a loss on
this event, if you are this first series of events, you were in the business at
the wrong time. You were not prepared for success. You were never gonna make back
the money. You said a pay-per-view would be a disaster, a failure.
Certainly we can all agree that they would have sold no pay-per-views. The
broadcast partners are not gonna come in sight unseen, no content library, nothing
to show and go, we're going to hand you a lot of money.
This had to be a loss.
You were going to have to take a bath on this event and the subsequent five, six, seven
events.
So if the thought process was we were going to recoup some of this, whether it be on ticket
sales or pay-per-view or broadcast rights, it was sorely
mistaken from the jump and probably should have
never been invested in.
I mean, but it was going to be like a historic loss.
The numbers that I was hearing, seven figures.
Oh boy.
It just, it baffled.
And again, I don't blame the fighters for saying,
yes, this is the greatest 401k of all time.
You know what I mean?
I do not blame them for saying this or for
believing this, but man, it, it, I hate to say it.
It just felt, it just felt too good to be true
from the get-go and there were so many signs and
little things, right?
Like the format, the graphics, the draft, like it's like,
there was nothing there to say like, oh, they've got it.
Like they need to figure this out.
Like if they navigate, these are smart, savvy,
sharp people behind this.
It just did every step of the way felt like another red flag
until this one.
And again, Andy Foster, and by the way, another red flag,
if you're going to do this and you're going to be a fledgling upstart promotion, why do you go to the strictest commission of all time?
Why would you go there? This is the type of thing that you do in like Texas or Florida or, you know, one of those commissions, Wyoming, Montana.
You don't go to Andy Foster. You don't go to the gold standard who's going to like hold your hand and keep you accountable every single step of the way. That was another red flag.
I can't speak for Darren Owen or the GFL, but I imagine it was one of the same things
that inflicted them in other areas, which is their fight was for legitimacy, right?
Everything they did was to try to run before they walked, right?
They are trying to sign all the biggest names outside the UFC.
They are trying to go to the California commission.
They're trying to do all these things to establish themselves as legitimate. But the problem was they didn't
even have anything to fall back on. There was no, they were not a small promotion that
all of a sudden came into some money or investment or figured out a way to kind of expand and
grow. They had nothing. They were starting from scratch and they were just running before
they walked. But I imagine it was more of that. Just having to say, Hey, we're going
to California because that's what the biggest promotion would do.
We're signing all these big name fighters because that's
what the biggest promotion would do.
And unfortunately, they were not that promotion.
That is just the reality of it.
Maybe this will go off in June.
I don't wish one way or another.
I don't think it does.
I don't think you possibly trust that it's going to.
I mean, they completely set this up to the point where
they were going to have an event and now it's canceled.
Well, if you were an investor,
the question you have to ask yourself is,
what am I investing in?
Also, what's the return on one event?
Yeah.
Miniscule compared to what you're paying.
I mean, just looking at the names,
Tony Ferguson, Dylan Dannis, Uriah Hall,
Page Van Zandt, Uriah Faber, Anthony Pettis,
Chad Mendez, Derek Brunson, Sage Northcutt,
Benson Henderson, like the name just goes on and on and on.
I can't even imagine what the bill is.
There's no way you're gonna recoup it with 500 ticket sales?
But you had to go in knowing
that you were never gonna recoup that.
That is, if you thought you were gonna recoup that,
you fundamentally messed up somewhere.
In the planning, in the beginning,
you were never going to make money.
That is not, the UFC wasn't making money in the early days.
This is just how this goes.
And I imagine that they had to have some sense of that,
but maybe I'm giving too much credit.
Maybe I'm being naive.
We can talk more about this.
There's more exciting and happy things to talk about.
UFC 314, appreciate you guys having me on.
Unfortunate news, but I can't wait for fight fees
and the show today in the Pound for Pound. So roll roll on this weekend and I'll talk to you guys on Saturday night.
All right, I don't want anything. Thanks for joining, brother.
Thanks. Roll Tides.
What's up?
Maybe slow it a little, Frank. Maybe a little more somber.
We pour out, anyone have some liquor? Pour out some liquor for it?
A little bit.
No, not on the set. Not on the set.
Don't pour it in the set.
Right on the company laptop.
No. Okay, fine on the laptop. Have a the set. Right on the company laptop.
Okay, fine on the laptop.
Have a good one, Ariel.
See you guys.
Oh, Frankie, that felt a little bit like dancing on the go.
Ah, come on, come on.
Listen, he mentioned it, Darren Owen working in the business again.
That will be very difficult.
Yeah, I mean.
To do from here. I mean, this got garnered so much attention,
not only from fans and just journalists
and everyone in the space, but also the fighters
that you were dealing with are big name fighters
who have a ton of connections.
And MMA, what are they gonna say about it after this?
No, it's one of the biggest disasters of all time.
Yeah, I mean, there's Dylan Dennis.
We have a- Just wanna fight, then he says,
just got word, don't believe everything you hear,
my fight with Tony Ferguson is still on.
So I can't trust that.
Dylan saying, oh, no, not so fast, it's still on.
Because you have to believe that the GFL's just like,
we're gonna figure this out, we're still gonna do the event.
Well, as Ariel said, right, if you're Darren Owen,
what other alternative do you have,
other than to say, like, we will get this sorted?
But as I was saying at the end there
when we were wrapping with Ariel,
if I'm the investor, the current investor, a new investor,
what am I investing in?
I'm investing in a massive bill upfront
and no return on investment, at least for many, many years.
I would have to imagine that that initial investor knew that
if they did not, they were unfortunately sold
a bill of goods.
Speaking of dancing on the grave,
I said that Frank's drop sounded like dancing on the grave.
We have Don Davis with a maybe unrelated,
maybe related tweet here.
Let's let you decide.
It could be completely unrelated.
Building a global MMA company, easy to talk, hard to do.
PFLMA delivered premium products for seven years,
110 events, $225 million in fight purses paid.
Hashtag PFL MMA.
Okay.
I don't think that has anything to do with GFL.
No, nothing to do with GFL.
He tweeted that like probably 30 minutes after the news.
Yeah, yeah, nothing to do with it.
Important thing to note there,
the most interesting thing from that that I took
other than Don Davis maybe pouring one out for the GFL,
$225 million in fighter purses paid that's not including event
putting on the event securing the broadcast partners doing all those
things that are additional answer the transportation for everybody during
fight week the bill continues to grow and grow so that's 225 just on the
fighters you have to imagine there's a couple million to hundreds of millions built in additionally on that just to run these
events to have staff to do all these things. If you were somebody on the investment for
in the early investment for the GFL, these are the numbers that you're looking at. And
so it's if you thought for one second you were going to make money in the beginning,
I just don't know what to say.
It would have been a catastrophic error on their part.
Hundreds of millions.
Hundreds of millions you have to lose.
There's no way the PFL has been profitable to this point.
Zero percent chance.
They're gonna say they probably were, zero percent chance.
I know, I was just about to say,
a hundred percent chance, there's no way they've profited.
Zero percent chance they have profited.
Zero, that is all lost money.
Now, they've built something, they have a brand,
and so you have to spend to make,
you have to invest in this.
And now they have a position as ostensibly
the number two company in MMA behind the UFC,
but that cost that they paid to get to there was monumental.
And so if you thought you were gonna just sign
all these fighters and put on this first event
and you're gonna make that back, it's just a fallacy.
Shout out to Bare Knuckle also.
Another promotion that's fighting their way through the mud.
But that's the thing with them.
They've built small.
They've gone to small venues.
They go to local shows.
They sell with local ticket sellers.
They build and they build.
And then you get a nice little boost. you get a Mike Perry, all of a sudden
he becomes a star for you, more people want to fight for you, you sell more tickets. That
Philly event we went to was crazy on the back of what they've sold. But it didn't start
at that venue. It started many, many small venues before that. You get Conor McGregor
to invest. You have to take these steps.
Also, think about like Mike Perry branching off of BKFC and he starts the Dirty Boxing
Championship. They do like an ancillary, just like fake almost fight night with you all
Romero on broadcast. Just like, let's see if it'll work. And then they do another one.
It feels like what the GFL was trying to do on Memorial Day weekend should have been what
they were doing after they had a year under their belt.
Five years. There's too many big names and too many big persons to do that.
What I and I think many others, including Ariel, right?
Like, I don't think any of us, I've not seen any reporting on who this investor
was or if it was multiple investors or where that funding was coming from.
Those people could have pockets that are deeper than we knew, right?
They could have hundreds of millions to billions of dollars. Or those people could have much shallower deeper than we knew, right? They could have hundreds of millions to billions of dollars,
or those people could have much shallower pockets
than you would imagine to have to put on the event.
We don't know that.
So you have to go on faith that if they knew the business,
if they knew the model, that they would be knowing
how much money they were gonna have to lose up front
and still trudging forward.
It's seeming a lot more like they did not know
how much money they were gonna have to lose up front
and decided, I'm pulling the plug on this
before it even breathes its first breath.
You think Dana gets asked about this this weekend?
Sure.
I honestly don't think Dana for one second
thought about GFL.
No, I think that's how he would respond to it.
I don't think it ever entered his mind.
Yeah, I don't even know what that is.
Yeah, we'll see.
We'll see what he says.
I think he will be asked about it, but I don't think he it
GFL never to me felt like a competitor with the UFC of course not
Well, even even if it even if it came to fruition
I did not feel like if they did ten events all is stacked as Memorial Day weekend one
of course it isn't it felt more like the
These guys are aging out of UFC. These guys are no longer valuable to the UFC roster they have a place that they can go much more so than any kind of like
Dana what do you make of the you know the death of the GFL it's like I didn't
think about it one time not once someone has to ask me about it I'm sure because
of the way that the fighters are affected who obviously you feel for the
most like missing out on a big payday like that is no fun. Hopefully they get it sorted,
but my optimism with it is no.
I think when we-
It's hard to be optimistic.
I think when we set that over under one and a half,
I took the under saying zero.
Did we set it at a half?
I think we might've set it at a half.
I think I said to take it at a half.
No, I think I said I was gonna take the alt line
of under a half, but then the alt line of over five and a half.
Cause I said if they did one,
then I bet they would do five or six.
But my thought was that they would do none.
And now I firmly, firmly believe that it will not happen.
It's hard to believe anything else.
All right.
Rest in peace to the GFO.
Always remember to protect your neck.
Let's move to this weekend.
UFC 314 taking place in Miami,
headlined by Alexander Volkanovsky.
Nice shirt.
It is a nice shirt, shout out to Engage.
Taking on Diego Lopez,
Volk, two straight losses.
Yeah.
Finished in both those losses.
Yeah.
Lost three of his last four.
Yeah.
But who's he losing to?
That's a great question.
Islam Makashev. Yep. Ilya Top's a great question. Islam Makashev.
Yep.
Ilya Toporia.
Yep.
And Islam Makashev again.
Two to.
Right, I'm saying the two people he's lost to in those three is Islam Makashev,
Ilya Toporia, arguably pound for pound.
One's number one for sure.
Yeah, of course.
And one's like a top three.
Top three, I think in arguably at this point, especially with Alex Pereira losing.
I think Ilya Toporia is too. Taboryev, he has two.
So my number one and number two
is who Alexander Volkanovsky has lost to.
He's obviously getting older,
fighting at a lower weight class, 145,
but man, it's hard to not believe,
especially with the time that he's taken off,
that we're going to see a very good version
of Alexander Volkanovsky this weekend.
I don't know. I mean, the unfortunate part is, as we've kind of been learning and these stats about,
you know, nobody over 35 in this and that have continued to roll on and they've been proven to
be prophetic to a certain degree, right? To a certain degree, I think it's like two and 30
under welterweight over 35 in championship fights.
Yeah, it's not happening.
I would make the argument that maybe we're operating
in a vacuum when we put too much stock into those stats,
right?
We're not using the context.
The first thing I'd point to is the thing that you said,
which is Islam Makachev times two, Ilya Taporyev.
Most fighters period in their primes of their career, in the best portions of their career,
are going to lose to those two fighters.
It doesn't matter if they're 35, it doesn't matter if they're 25, most people fighting
those two fighters will lose every single time because they are...
Islam has one loss, I don't think that loss would ever happen again if you were to fight
the same competitor, shout out to Davi Ramos for Ariel, and for Ilya Toporia has never
lost.
So we're looking at two guys who just don't lose and for Volk to lose to them, I think that context is more important when you think about some of these other fighters that we're looking at two guys who just don't lose. And for Volk to lose to them, I think
that context is more important when you think about, like,
some of these other fighters that we're talking about.
It may not have necessarily been that level of competition
that they were losing to when we're
looking at these statistics.
So I think that's one thing to point to.
The other thing I'd point to is two of those fights
were against a guy at a bigger weight class.
Volk was losing to Islam Makachev,
but he was losing to him at 55.
I don't think Volk is suitable for 55, quite frankly.
Like I don't think he can be a 55er.
I think he will do his best work at 45.
I think that's where he, he should remain
and that's where he belongs.
I think he's just, he's stocky.
He's got a wide back, but he's just small.
And I don't think he's going to do well against the,
the longer, taller guys at 55. And so another point of context for me is like
really at 45 it's really just to poria like it's it's a loss of to poria that
that's what stands out to me is like if you put these things in proper context
I'm still feeling like Volk is probably still the Volk of old he ran into a guy
in illia's aporia who's one of the greats right now and against a guy like Diego Lopez, if the
Volk that fought Max Holloway, if the Volk that showed up in that, even in that first
Islam Makachev fight, fights Diego Lopez, I still am, I still am feeling him. I still
am picking him. I still think that guy is well-rounded enough and good enough to get the job done.
What I'm not, what I'm not factoring in and could potentially come back to bite me in saying that is there is a point where you just hit the age and it falls off cliff.
There is just that day where you wake up and overnight you are not the same guy that you were anymore.
The reflexes are a little slower. The skills are not as sharp. And that could,
that day could have come for Valk.
I just wouldn't know because in a fight against Ilya Toporya in a fight against
Islam Makachev, they're going to win those fights.
If you're at your best or your worst, it does not matter. They're,
they're going to win those fights.
And so I don't have enough data with a VULK against the Diego Lopez level of competition.
And so until I see otherwise,
I'm still feeling like that VULK exists.
Okay, so you mentioned the stats.
I have it right here.
Yeah, tell me what the stat is.
The record of UFC fighters, age 35 plus,
in title fights below middle weight is three and 30.
Tyron Woodley twice and Bilal.
Used to be two, who got it done just recently?
Bilal.
Okay.
So this is welterweight, so that means non-lightweight
and below, which is where Volk is fighting at.
Yep, again.
So it's just like some things are like,
the age really might matter.
And the fact that he's lost three of his last four,
and the most concerning part for me
is the fact that he got finished in his last two.
Head kicked by Islam, knocked spark out by Ilya,
and now he's taking on a guy in Diego Lopez
who is going to put the pressure on him early
and is going to look to finish him.
I mean, he has insane finishing capabilities,
whether it's standing on the feet or it's on the mat.
That concerns me.
It should.
But I'm kind of like you.
The fact that like the loss at
145 is to Ilya Toporya, who's turning out to be one of the greats that we've seen
of this generation, undefeated, you know, who knows where he'll be at at the end of
his career, does give me hope that that the old Volk is still in there and he's
going to be able to come out and impress. There's a world he's Max Holloway, right?
Yeah.
And it's Max Holloway who could beat everybody but Volk.
Except Max, when he goes on these struggles,
it's like, oh, Max is only 29.
Yeah, yeah.
100% because it's like-
Because he's still only like 31.
Yeah, it felt like, you're right.
It felt like he should have been 40
by the time he reached there, but he was only 30.
But it could be a situation where he is the max Holloway, right?
He could beat everybody at 45.
He was the best at 45 other than this one guy,
and his name was Alexander Volkonovsky.
It is possible that Volkonovsky is better
than everybody at 45, except for Ilya Toporia.
And Ilya Toporia is no longer at 45,
so that's a good thing for him, if this does come true, right? If he, if he reclaims the father way title on
Saturday and Ilya Tupori is out of the division, maybe he goes back to reigning. If that world
is the true world, I could believe that I, I, and in fact, I favor that outcome. I think
that outcome will happen. But there's also the world that you talked about, which is,
man, he's been in some wars lately, right? Ilya Toporya put him out cold, Islam Makachev put him out cold.
The fight against, the first fight against Islam couldn't have been an easy one, that was a back and forth kind of grueling type battle.
And so there's a world where those diminished him, the age is up against him, you mentioned the fact that Diego Lopez is a pressure fighter with power in his hands, submission skills, speed.
He has everything you'd want.
It's a tough task.
It is not going to be easy for Aleksandr Volkanovsky,
even if he does win.
But I do favor the version we have seen in the past.
And I don't read too much into what
we have seen in the last few.
Maybe that's the mistake.
Well, that's also the concern, is that in this sport, and I don't read too much into what we have seen
in the last few.
Maybe that's the mistake.
Well, that's also the concern is that in this sport,
the cliff comes fast and it comes sharp.
I mean, look at Israel Adesanya.
Less than two years ago, he's going into that fight
against Sean Strickland as a minus 600, he's got the belt.
It's just like, how long is this guy gonna reign?
The one slip up against Pereira in round five,
and now he's lost three straight.
I mean, he had lost three of his last four
going into that Nasruddin fight.
And it's like each time he fought,
I was just like, Izzy still got it, come on man.
Like he's still got it.
Like he'll be all right.
He's like a slight favorite against these guys like Imovov.
It's like Israel out of Soniavers, Nasruddin, Imovov.
Izzy's got this, knocked out in round two.
Like the cliff comes steeply
and it could be something very similar here
with Alexander Volkanovsky. I have a horrendous take that I don't
want to go on to a tangent with. Well you have to hear it now. Israel to Sanja
still got it. Like I don't. I know he doesn't have it. The results are not there.
I know the results are not there. Anyway I don't want to go down that. The
fight itself. The fight itself. I'm seeing a lot of commentary surrounding
this. Do you believe that this is a binary fight in the sense that Diego Lopez comes
in and in those first 10 minutes, he is so lethal to knock out Volk.
And then if Volk can survive those first two rounds from there, he's
going to be able to just put the pressure on and, and add up points and
win either by decision or a late finish because Diego Lopez is inevitably going
to gas, I think a lot of people are taking that Dan Ege fight as like, man,
look at the cardio fall off a cliff. Where for me, the Brian Ortega gas. I think a lot of people are taking that Dan Ige fight
as like, man, look at the cardio fall off a cliff.
Where for me, the Brian Ortega fight,
he threw like 105 punches in round three,
won 30-26 on one of the judges scorecards.
He showed that he can go 15 minutes.
Can he go 25?
That's yet to be seen.
I don't agree with that, but I do agree with Volk late.
And here's why.
I don't agree with the idea that like,
Diego Lopez is not live or game
After round two, I think that's silly from what we've seen from Diego Lopez. Maybe he's not as live for that knockout
Maybe he's not as live for that. Like, okay, I just came in and starched the guy
Maybe the power is gonna fade but he's still gonna be very capable in the late rounds and still be very dangerous in late late rounds
I don't buy that but what I do buy is
We have seen Alexander Volkanov ski before in the late rounds and still be very dangerous in late rounds, I don't buy that. But what I do buy is we have seen Alexander Volkonovsky
before in the later rounds, figure people out.
We have seen Max Holloway have some early success
against Volkonovsky, and then by round three,
Volkonovsky had downloaded all that data,
and he found the game plan to win.
So I would be much more leaning toward the idea
of Volk figures him out late, not Diego fades late.
I need it. I need it.
Cause I'm with you.
I don't think Diego turns into a punching bag in rounds
I don't believe that.
In rounds four and five.
I think he's still going to be able to put up a fight.
Of course, but I do obviously favor as the fight goes on.
Yes.
A guy in Volkanovsky who's gone five rounds
more than I can count to.
The longer the fight goes on,
it's obviously going to favor Volkanovsky,
but I don't think it's this
like we start round three, Volk minus 10,000
on the live line.
Like he did it.
He made it through the, the first 10 minutes.
Diego Lopez has completely gas.
The fight is over.
Volk's going to run away with it from here.
Who, who do you think has more ways to win?
She.
I, man, I think, I do think that the key for Volk is like,
especially those first five minutes,
like figuring out how Diego is going to attack the fight,
how Diego is going to come forward,
getting used to his rhythm and how he's approaching the fight
I think is gonna be nervy minutes
if you're cheering for Volkanovsky
or if you're in Volkanovsky's camp. But man, once you get through that first five,
like I am with you.
I think Volkonovsky's experience and his ability
to get better as the fight goes on,
lends more options for him.
Yeah, and I think that's where I ultimately fall.
Like I do believe that Diego Lopez
can knock out Alexander Volkonovsky.
Of course he can.
We have just seen him knocked out twice in a row. Of course he can. I I do believe that Diego Lopez can knock out Alexander Volkonovsky.
We have just seen him knocked out twice in a row.
Of course he can.
I don't ultimately think he will.
I don't foresee that outcome.
I don't think that that's the likeliest path.
It can happen.
But he has that potential early.
He probably has the submission potential, right?
If it's on the ground,
you have to imagine that submission for submission,
he's gonna be a more capable submission artist, but in terms of the grappling,
I could see a world where Volk is on top of Diego
raining down punches, because we've seen that
in some of the past fights, where he is just
using that position, using that control,
and not doing anything that gets him in trouble.
The arms are tight, he's looping some punches in,
he's landing some elbows from the top,
and really just keeping it safe, inside guard, mauling people.
And so I could see a world where he controls it there too.
I just think, I think Diego might have more ways to finish the fight, but
I do think Alex is going to have more ways to potentially control
and then, and then win the fight.
I a hundred percent agree with that.
The finishing upside is on Diego Lopez side, but the longer the fight goes, I do favor Volk.
It could happen on the ground and he's just on top.
Fascinating.
It could happen on the feet,
and I think he'll be able to figure it out.
But yeah, I don't know where the narrative would come from
that Diego's this like glass cannon, like early guy.
I just don't see that.
I don't think it's glass cannon.
I think it's like death gasser.
I think a lot of people from the E-Headfighter.
The fake DDP shit where it was like after round one
he's got nothing left in the tank
and now DDP has gone like six, five round fights.
Can we just talk about like, you know,
Volk obviously going from like, what fight was it?
Was it the, I think it was after the Yair fight,
even after he had lost the very close decision
to Islam Makashev, after the Yair fight,
it was like, this guy is just unbeatable at 145.
Like, he is just insane.
Like, but it's just, it can flip like that.
But maybe he is unbeatable at 145.
No, no, no, I know, I know.
Save for, I was just gonna say, like,
how quickly this sport can move.
This time two years ago, Diego Lopez wasn't even in the UFC.
Yeah.
Hadn't even made his debut yet.
May 6th, 2023.
You know what's even crazier about that?
Debut, short notice, Movsar Evloev.
Oh yeah, title contender.
Movsar, not lost yet.
Undefeated title contender.
Diego Lopez, in the championship fight, Movsar not.
He came in lost to a guy.
That guy has not lost since,
and he has propelled himself past him.
That's not a tricky equation to figure out.
I think we know why, but I'm just saying.
I'm sorry, it's nine and O in the UFC.
Nine wins by decision,
doesn't have a ton of personality.
I understand why, I'm just saying.
That guy, that beat him.
He's still here, and he hasn't lost yet.
And Diego, look, Diego's an exciting fighter.
As I said, I don't think there's any confusion on why.
For sure.
But the journey is crazy.
Yeah.
And imagine the names that Diego Lopez can join
after just two years in the promotion,
the lineage of featherweight champions.
Just five of them, Aldo, Holloway, Volk, McGregor,
Toporia.
Yeah.
And then you had Diego Lopez in there.
Yeah. What he can accomplish with a win on Saturday is astounding. Drager, Toporia, and then you had Diego Lopez in there.
What he can accomplish with a win on Saturday is astounding. It's hard to wrap your head around, especially like,
we didn't even know who this dude was two years ago.
You did because he was pulling up to Invictus shows
with Alexis Grasso.
He used to be a training partner for Alexis Grasso,
and I would see them all the time at the Invictus shows.
This is like one of those fights,
it's one of those just like classic fights
where it's just like, gonna be so hyped for the winner,
just gonna be so bummed for the loser.
Yeah, you don't wanna see either of these guys lose.
They've done it.
They just can't.
I don't know if in MMA there is a way to do it
the right way, but they've done it the right way.
You know, they're kind of just like these humble guys
who just wanna fight, they're not really like doing the,
I guess like, Diego can kind of chirp sometimes on X.
But still like, humble guys Put on a fun fight. Yeah have personality and like they just seem like nice dudes
They seem like nice dudes and it's easy to root for guys
I guess like the only one out there who's cheering against folk this weekend is probably one Jed Mishoo shout out to him
Does he still not like him? I don't know the biggest Volcator on earth. I feel like after he lost maybe that kind of dissipated
But yeah, it's it I ultimately, how about this?
Is a loss catastrophic for Volk?
I know it's not for Diego, right?
We don't have to talk about that.
Yeah, Diego is not, it's not catastrophic,
but the career is in-
Three in a row.
Career is in a point where it's tough to come back from.
Yeah.
Like who would you match them up against?
Volk feels like a guy that needs to be vying for the title.
We always say this
because the currency is like chasing the title.
But I just, Max Holloway and Michael Bisbing
and guys like that continue to be my example.
It's just not, it's never over with the loss. It's never over.
There are ways to refresh yourself. There are ways to figure it out.
If you beat enough people, you'll ultimately get back to the title.
How many times did I have to hear, Michael Bisbing will never get back to the title.
How many times did I have to hear, Max Holloway will never fight for a title again. Never.
He's lost to Volk so many times, he'll never fight for a title again? Never, he's lost the Vogue so many times
he'll never fight for a title again.
And he's fighting Ilya Taporyev for the title.
I guess my only argument against that is the age.
36 now.
The age hurts him, the age hurts him.
But he's one of those guys,
I mean look at the shape he's in right now.
Yeah, can we move the picture over?
Look at how jagged he is.
Look at those custom shorts, they're growing on me man.
If that's 37, I've been messing up 37, I'll tell you that.
If I look like that at 36, can we just talk about
how great of an ambassador for the bald beard brand,
Alexander Volkanovsky.
Yeah, bald Volk has been a really solid addition.
Look man, and he rocks it, very similar to me,
does the close but not completely full,
but we definitely had receding, our hairlines were cooked
to where we needed to go bald,
and then the beard is just on point, man.
He's always got a great beard.
It's also because he has a great jaw.
His jaw is fantastic.
Great jaw, nice head shape too.
Nice head shape too.
I mean, I know it wasn't easy to shave it,
but also when you're one of the pound for pound best
in the world, it's like, who gives a fuck
what my hair looks like?
Fair enough.
Shorts look great though.
No, the shorts look great.
I might have to buy a pair.
Yeah, look at those, look at those, they're on sale now.
Jesus Christ.
I'm gonna have to cop a pair.
Wear those around the crib.
I just, I cannot with these stupid fucking shorts.
Ah, these are sick, come on man.
What is sick about them?
Would you rather him be wearing just green venom shorts?
They look the same to me.
You're impressed by like a few laurels?
Like this is the difference between great shorts
and bad shorts?
We're using the Greek alphabet? Come it's it's think we use the Sigma
as the E these these these cut custom because it's not custom they give you
like two options to fucking change the MS Paint picture that you select and put
a few texts on it are not custom it's got they're all garbage I'm sorry if it
was just a pair of black gym shorts with condom depot on the back
At least if it was condom depot, it's the sponsor They've selected and they get them and they get the money from it for this. It's just
Carlos projects with some with some cigarettes
Muay Thai shorts, that's what that's what I'm alright if he did that I'd be in but the all this like bullshit that we get
Alex Ferrer's got the best ones only because the design is the coolest,
but all these little accents and things like this,
it's just MS Paint garbage.
It's clip art bullshit.
See, there's the conversation right there
because I think Ilya has the best.
We'll save that for Alex and Sean.
Pound for pound Venom custom shorts ranking
that we'll do later on.
I'm vetoing that. Official prediction
for main event.
Vulk, give me Vulk.
All right, I'm gonna go with Vulk cautiously.
I have to see, I have to
see a non-Iliya Toporia 45-er outclass him and I have and as I'll say it one
more time I'm not picking anybody at 155 pounds and below against Islam Makachev.
There's not a person on this earth I don't care if they're at their best and
Islam's at his worst I don't care if they're both this earth. I don't care if they're at their best and Islam's at his worst. I don't care if they're both at the middle.
I don't care if they're both at their best. There's not a person at 55 or below
that I'm picking against Islam Makachev. There probably isn't many at 70 I'd pick
above him.
Probably not any at the moment, but I could hear the debate. I'd at least
entertain that conversation. And so two losses to him, I'm willing to just sweep
aside.
I don't think Alexander Volkanovsky can beat Islam
Makachev, I just don't think that's possible.
And so I remove those because I don't think it's possible
for anybody.
It's the loss to Ilya Toporya that makes me go, okay,
he's not the best 45-er in the world.
There is one guy who I think is better than him at 45,
his name is Ilya Toporya, he's no longer in that division.
If he loses to Diego, there's a real
referendum that I have to have. Outside of that, I'm ready to think that he's still the best 45er
in the world as currently presented. And so if somebody shows me, if Diego can show me that
that's not true, I'm ready to have that conversation. I'm ready to believe. But until then I am not,
and so I'm going with Volk. We'll see on Saturday. It's a great fight.
You can see on Saturday right here,
we'll be doing a live watch party,
watching a long UFC 314 with you.
Yeah, it's an incredible fight, I can't wait for it.
Let's go to another incredible fight,
co-main event, Michael Chandler taking on Patti Pemblit.
Yeah, certified banger.
This is just a banger.
Both of these guys have six UFC fights.
In their combined 12 UFC fights, nine of those have gone for bonuses.
Like both of these dudes come to fight.
They put on shows for the fans.
They have finishing capabilities.
Uh, I just, I don't see how this one doesn't end up being exciting.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna kiss a death.
Like last week I was like, Oh, the co-main killers in the Apex.
Most boring fight on the card.
Pat Sabatini just grappling for 14 minutes and 59 seconds.
Not gonna go ahead and jinx that,
could go to a decision,
but I think it's gonna be exciting either way.
But man, it is one of those fights that I like.
I just don't really know what's going to happen.
I understand Michael Chandler on a bad run of late,
two and four in his UFC career.
Patty, six and oh in his UFC career,
but the difference is who have they been fighting
in those six fights.
Michael Chandler is Dan Hooker, who's number six.
Dustin Poirier, who's number five.
Charles Oliver, who's number two, twice.
Justin Gaethje, who's number three.
And then Tony Ferguson, who was number seven at the time.
Patty Pimblitt is Luigi Vendramini,
Rodrigo Vargas, Jordan Levitt, Jared Gordon, Tony Ferguson as well was number seven at the time. Paddy Pemblit is Luigi Vendromini, Rodrigo Vargas,
Jordan Levitt, Jared Gordon, Tony Ferguson as well,
and Bobby Green.
I would go as far to argue that Michael Chandler
probably goes six and oh in those six fights as well.
Yeah, I'm gonna say yes.
So I'm not wildly concerned about the run as of late.
I think this is easily the toughest test
Paddy Pemblit has had in his entire 25 fight career.
And it might be Michael Chandler's easiest test.
At least in the UFC.
Tony Ferguson maybe.
At that point in Tony's run.
I know because he was number seven but he was on such a bad run.
It was such a bad run and he kicked his head off anyway.
We'll always have Tony round one.
I think he won round one on all three judges' court cards.
It's a fascinating fight to me. Chandler's going to bring the fight to Patty.
Absolutely.
He's going to make him uncomfortable.
How Patty reacts to that, I just don't know.
I think Patty, like sometimes because of the persona
he is, he gets underrated a bit.
I think like.
I think that's correct.
I think by his fans, he gets overrated,
but then he has so many detractors
that he also gets underrated.
He's nasty on the ground.
He can hold his own on the feet.
It really is, it's a fascinating fight, man.
Yeah, I agree with you 100% about the way
that Patty is kind of viewed, right?
His fans are so loud and so vocal,
he himself is so loud and so vocal
that it makes it, your natural instinct,
your natural reaction is to be like, no, no, no,
you're not as good as you say you are.
But that puts you into a difficult position
because when you have to defend that,
when you actually look back at the resume,
you're like, actually, he hasn't lost yet.
He's doing pretty good.
The guy's actually better than I probably
wanna give him credit for.
So I agree with that completely.
When we talked about, somebody asked us on On The Nose
on yesterday, what are the two fights, we had to pick two fights,
or maybe it was a super chat, what are the two fights
on this card that we're looking forward to the most,
or that we have to see?
This was one for me.
And this is my number one.
I love this matchmaking, I love the fact, as you said,
that Michael Chandler's coming off the toughest opposition
you could possibly face, and Patty Pimblitt,
this is a huge step up, they're meeting at the perfect time to see, okay, can Michael Chandler is coming off the toughest opposition you could possibly face. And Patti Pimblitt, this is a huge step up.
They're meeting at the perfect time to see, OK,
can Michael Chandler still do it in this division
if it's not against the top guys in the world?
And can Patti Pimblitt take that next step up,
because Michael Chandler is going to give him his toughest
challenge?
I'm extremely compelled by this fight.
The question I have about this fight
is the same question I have about every single Michael
Chandler fight. Is he going to walk out and try to slug with
people or is he gonna use his wrestling for the first time in 10 years?
Is he fighting for the fans or is he fighting to win the fight?
If Michael Chandler tries to wrestle with Paddy Pimblitt, at least mixing in the
wrestling with the striking, I think he will be very very very successful very successful. Even against Dustin Poirier, we kind of saw it.
Dude, he was winning that fight. He was winning that fight until
until Poirier got the choke. And Dustin Poirier, I think is
better than Patti Pimblitt. I'm going to say that now. Maybe
this will come back to bite me. Maybe Patti will prove to be
something better than that. But against Dustin Poirier, that
version of Michael Chandler to me looked like one that will be Patti Pimblitt. Are we poriate that version of Michael Chandler
to me look like one that will be Patty
Pimblitt are we going to see that
version is the question I've asked on
every single Michael Chandler fight that
that has happened since because most of
the time he really just wants he's
become this guy and it almost like I
think hurts him a little bit if I'm
being honest he's gotten this reputation
of I'm the bonus king I'm the fight of
the night guy I'm the fight of the year
contender guy,
and he's walking in there to try and do these
incredible things and scrap with people,
if he just wants to win, I think the path to victory
is pretty clear for him, and I think it's a very
achievable path to victory.
It's you strike when you need to strike,
because I think he's gonna be at least equal
with Patty there.
I think Patty gets his striking is a little bit underrated.
It's kind of like decent and effective. It's not
Look the one knockout. I think how many USC knockouts does he have?
I can tell you right now. I think he only has one but you tell me.
I mean he has several subs three subs one KO. Yeah the one knockout I think accepted which
Against Vendramini. Vendramini knocked him out pretty well. Yeah honestly if he wrestles there is a concern.
Like Patti is slick on the ground.
The subs, yeah Michael's just such a good,
he's such a good MMA fighter.
He's been doing this so long I think he'd be able
to keep himself safe.
I do agree with you though on one point that you made
about the matchmaking.
I absolutely adore this matchmaking.
Yeah.
It's just like perfect because two big stars
that are going to come in and put on a show
and it's like you're trying to continue the patty train to rise it's like you're
giving them a number seven guy on and a name and a name on a card in Miami
that's going to deliver an exciting fight it's like if he goes out there and
wins this especially if he finishes Michael Chandler it's just like rocket
ship get the kid a top five fight so much so that Conor McGregor said he's
gonna be watching yeah we did get a we got a post from one Conor McGregor said he's gonna be watching this one. We did get a we got a post from one Conor McGregor showing him hitting the mitts saying
that he'll have an eye on this one. Yeah I'm interested in the Chandler-Pemblit
fight this weekend. That feels very specific for one Conor McGregor to be
talking about that fight. So is he ever gonna fight again? I have no idea.
As many training footages as we get. I feel like we get as many party
footages. But we'll see. There was a time in the
pandemic where just Connor training in his garage set
the internet ablaze with, oh my God, the king of fighting
is back and blah, blah, blah. Now I don't think it has
quite that same impact. But I do think it's interesting
that he called out or focused on these two in particular
because they feel like a great next fight
for Conor McGregor.
So you mentioned top five.
Maybe it's not top five at all.
Maybe Patty Pimblitt's next fight
is against one Conor McGregor
because I think that would be big box office.
Can you imagine?
I think it was Patty power
or some European sportsbook put out odds
and it was like, will Patty fight Conor McGregor
before the end of 2020? And it was like something like only like three to one
or something, while he was still in Cage Warriors
back in 2019.
I'm very interested to see if Chandler lands flush on Patty.
I know he's got the Scouser chin
or as Cody Garbrand likes to say, the Sorcerer's chin,
and they don't get knocked out,
but I'm very interested to see.
Time to work, baby!
See you at the top! See you at the top!
Michael Chandler.
I've been loving his content all week,
just this buildup, just him eating steak.
Cold steak.
See you at the top, taking a million supplements,
see you at the top.
I can't wait for this one.
I'm not really sure what's gonna happen,
but it's just gonna be tune in and enjoy.
If it just becomes a striking battle, who wins?
I say Chandler.
You think Chandler because of the power?
I think because of the power and just the ferocity.
I think he's gonna be able to land big on him.
But who knows?
He throws winging punches and opens himself up to it.
And by the way, I don't think Paddy's outclassed
on the feet either.
I think if Michael Chandler decides to strike with Paddy,
I don't think it's gonna be some kind of like
unbalanced kind of mismatch thing.
I think Patty's gonna be capable
on the feet against Chandler.
Does Patty try to take it to the ground?
Yeah, I think he does at some point.
I think he goes for a takedown.
Yeah, does he have success there?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm wondering, I just feel like
Michael Chandler has the tools to win this fight.
I wonder if he will use them.
That's where I'm ultimately at.
That's everything with Michael Chandler,
but I can't wait for that one.
It's a, this is a certified banger.
Can't wait for a perfect co-main event.
Five rounds still.
Crazy that they did that.
Love it.
Sign me up for all of that.
What do you think?
Does it go all five?
I'm gonna say no, because it's a Michael Chandler fight,
but I got proven wrong.
I remember sitting right here in November
and being like, Michael Chandler, Charles Oliveira,
no way.
The government handout,
his fight doesn't go to a decision.
It's only 20% ROI, but it's you gotta take it.
Yeah, it went to a decision.
So I'm not gonna sit here and jinx anything,
but cannot wait for that one.
I think even if it does go 25, it's a wildly exciting fight.
Chandler 38.
Does that caution you at all?
Nah, cause he's on the best, same shape that like it doesn't even matter.
Yeah.
Take such a good care of his body.
Uh, yeah.
Can't wait for that one.
Let's keep it rolling.
Bryce Mitchell, John Silva, a little bit of heat with this one.
Little bit of heat on this one.
These guys have been going back and forth on Twitter.
John Silva nicknamed Lord,
Bryce Mitchell obviously a devout Christian.
There's only one Lord and it ain't you fool.
You need a country ass whoop and it'll humb you just right.
Okay, okay, says John Silva,
but I'm gonna beat you until you see the earth is round.
He brought the-
Got him.
It's a great line.
Got him.
Brought the globe out at the press conference,
hyping up the fights.
These guys don't like each other.
Jean Silva, I think, thought that Bryce Mitchell
was in the back, but it was actually DC yesterday
and he started barking.
I imagine there's gonna be some heat in this face off.
Bryce and DC are easy to confuse.
That happens from time that happens. Yeah.
Yeah, man, Bryce, like back against the wall,
obviously a lot of people are going
to want to see him lose come Saturday night.
There's going to be some people that
want to see him win too.
But John Silva has the opportunity
to cash in on a lot of shit talking come Saturday night.
Yeah, John Silva's played this perfectly, right?
Like Bryce is kind of at a point where
it's easy to make fun of him. it's easy to kind of dump on him,
and he has said some things that I think are deserving
of that kind of treatment, certainly.
For sure.
But he's playing it right, he's leaning in,
John Silva is, he's leaning into that,
and just with the globe, and he's talking,
and he's posting some videos that are edited,
and things like that, that are leaning into this.
But once that's all over, once Saturday comes,
they're going to be locked in a cage
and it's going to come down to the skills.
It's not going to come down to like,
what did Bryce Mitchell say on a podcast
that's at some point in the past?
Or what did John Silva make fun of him for?
There is going to be a fight.
And I think people forget that Bryce Mitchell
is like really, really good. Was undefeated for a while?
On the ground in particular.
It is, it is, it is his bread and butter.
It is the way he wins fights.
Okay.
I mean, let's get into it.
I can't shake what Chase Hooper said yesterday on the area, how I want to show.
He compared it to a fight we saw last weekend, the co-main killers, Pat Sabatini,
Joe Anderson Brito, a dude that's exciting,
comes in, finishes fights on a nice run around like a minus 230, minus 240 favorite, almost
the exact same situation, just got grappled for the full 15 minutes.
And going back, I rewatched the Charles Jordan fight.
Yes, I understand that John Silva won that by KO in the end, but Charles Jordan landed
three takedowns and was able to get some control time, was able to make
John Silva struggle on the ground.
I understand his get up game was good in that one,
but I rate Bryce Mitchell's wrestling and grappling
far beyond that of Charles Rodin.
And I think he can have ample success if he's able
to implement it.
And we saw it against Dan Ege, we saw it against
Barboza, like he is an accomplished wrestler and
grappler, like he can, he has a path to victory in this one.
I know everybody wants to get so hyped up.
Sean Silva, look at the way he knocks people out.
Look at how he barks in the camera.
He's crazy, he's a madman.
He has all this style in there fighting, the fighting nerds.
But there is a path to victory for Bryce Mitchell.
100% there is.
I think you're correct in saying that Bryce is gonna be
a better wrestler than Charles Jordan. The difference though, in that fight versus that,
in that fight against John Silva versus this one
against Bryce Mitchell versus John Silva, Charles
Jordan is a, is a threat on the feet.
Bryce Mitchell is not a threat on the feet.
That's, that's.
Especially not to John Silva.
Not to John Silva.
That is a complete mismatch if it stays standing.
So that is, that is an area where if you are John
Silva,
you need to be weary of Bryce Mitchell's hands, right?
In the last fight, he dropped his last opponent
and then finished them, right?
Who was it?
Did the stare down?
Yeah, who did Bryce just fight?
No, who did?
Oh, who did Bryce just fight?
Kroen Gracie? Yeah, didn Bryce just fight? Kroen Gracie?
Yeah, didn't he knock down Kroen Gracie
and then he finished him?
Yeah, and then he got in a full mount
and finished him and everything.
But also, the threat on the feet that Bryce Mitchell is
to John Silva was the threat on the feet
Kroen Gracie is to Bryce Mitchell.
Yeah, and so you have to be a little bit weary
of the hands, but not too weary.
I don't think Bryce Mitchell is gonna knock out John Silva, famous last words, and then we're going to cut to the Bryce Mitchell
flatline, John Silva and overhand, right? Cut, cut
to that. But I don't think he's enough of a threat
where John Silva has to be concerned about that.
So if he's in a stance where he's going to be able
to be defensive in his grappling and he's going to
be able to potentially stuff, take downs, prevent
Bryce Mitchell from taking him down, even if taken down, work on getting up. I have to be able to potentially stuff take downs, prevent Bryce Mitchell from taking him down. Even if taken down, work on getting up.
I have to imagine that that's what they were
drilling all this time in camp.
I have to imagine that all this time in camp was
spent sharpening the hands a little bit, but
making sure you don't get taken down.
If he's able to do that, if he's able to focus in
that area and Bryce is getting stuffed a little
bit, he's so much more dangerous than some of
Bryce's past opponents in that one flurry moment. He's so much more dangerous than some of Bryce's past opponents in that one flurry
moment.
He is a proven finisher.
If he sees a window, if he sees an opening, he's very good at shutting that window.
He's very good at closing the show when he has that opportunity.
So even if Bryce is able to take him down, I am fairly confident that he's going to get quite a few reps to hurt Bryce. Even if he does get taken down, whether it be getting up in that round and
getting another shot, whether it be the start of the next round, he just has to
be weary because if Bryce does take him down, it's going to be a problem.
And if he does it continually, the gas tank's going to go, the energy's
going to go, and by round five, it's going to feel like drowning.
And so I think, I think, sorry, by round three, it's going to feel like drowning and so I think I think three oh sorry by round three it's gonna
feel like drowning and I think Bryce is super live to do that yeah man I I'm
with you I I do think John Silver wins I think because of the lack of the threat
on the feet that Bryce Mitchell poses to him he will be able to get his offense
off and if he stuffs a couple takedowns, then it's just like, Matt, this is gonna go
the exact way that he wants it to.
But there is a path.
I'm not fully sold on like, Jean Silva's a lock,
he's gonna go out there and blast Bryce Mitchell's chin off
and it's gonna be a celebration in the streets
for the Fighting Nerds camp
and everybody that's going against Bryce Mitchell.
I think it's a very good fight.
I'm gonna go Jean Silva, still gets it done.
I lean Jean Silva, but at the odds,
I don't know that I love it.
I feel like I dogger past that one.
Yeah, let's keep it rolling.
Yair Rodriguez, Patricio Pitbull, another incredible fight.
Pitbull making his UFC debut after 30 fights in Bellator.
I think 17 of them were for titles.
Like he has fought the best of the best.
And now at 37 years old,
he gets to make his long awaited UFC debut.
And it's not an easy task.
Gai Rodriguez is a skilled striker.
He's gonna be five inches taller, five inches of reach,
five inches younger than Patricio Pitbull.
But man, if anyone's up for the task from Bellator,
Patricio Pitbull is a good one to take. Yeah, I think this one was my second.
I said there were two that I'm looking forward to the most.
This is my second one.
It was Chandler, Patty Pemblit, and it's this fight.
I'm really interested to see what
Pitbull looks like against this level of UFC competition.
This is what I have been waiting for.
And so we have some clues, right?
We've seen Michael Chandler against UFC competition, and he looks like against this level of UFC competition. This is what I have been waiting for. And so we have some clues, right?
We've seen Michael Chandler against UFC
competition and he looks, he looks fine.
He's against the top guys.
Great dude.
Records not great.
He's losing some of these fights.
The record is not great, but it's not like he's
just getting obliterated in these fights.
He's hanging in there.
Even against Charles.
Even against Charles Oliveira in that fifth
round, he's the one pushing forward.
He's the one trying to finish that fight. MVP has looked fine. Right.
Again, now on, if you were the pessimist, if you're looking at the glass half empty version
of that, they haven't had ultimate success.
Right.
They haven't been extremely successful in
getting all these finishes.
They haven't looked like as good as the guys.
They looked in Bellator.
So that's something to note, but I do think
Patricio Pippel is so well-rounded, so, so
experienced, so dangerous that it's going to
stifle Yair Rodriguez.
Now we talked about like Diego Lopez early, man,
Yair early is a real load because when he's fresh
and he's landing some of those body kicks and
continually spamming those kicks and that, and it's going up to the head and he's landing some of those body kicks and
continually spamming those kicks and that, and
it's going up to the head and it's going to the
body and you feel like you're getting like a
tornado coming at you for the first five minutes
of a fight that can be really daunting.
I just don't imagine that Patricio Pippel is the
type of guy who wouldn't be ready for that or
who wouldn't have felt like, okay, this is what
I prepared for and being able to weather that
storm and then come back later.
Um, but it is, it is danger.
It is always danger when Yair Rodriguez is in
the cage with you.
He is, he is a terror and especially early when,
when, when he is fresh and he's just kicking,
kicking, kicking, kicking, it's really hard to,
to find a rhythm on your own.
And so now you're one round down and you
haven't even gotten into your rhythm.
Um, but I do just, I just feel like the, the
veteran savvy, the experience of is, is clearly
on the side of pit bull in terms of how many
different styles he's fought, how long he's
fought being a champion in Bellator.
I favor him, but I do worry 37 years old.
We talked about it with Michael Chandler, right?
Like 30, 37 is not equal for everybody, but 37
years old is 37 years old. I'm about it with Michael Chandler, right, 37's not equal for everybody,
but 37 years old is 37 years old.
I'm concerned about the age, I'm concerned about the miles,
I'm concerned about the quote unquote octagon jitters.
I don't think he'll have jitters per se,
but he's not stepped into that cage before,
and that's just a reality.
I'm concerned about all those factors,
I do lean toward Pitbull.
I think he's gonna have to go to the wrestling,
like you talk about the kicks getting thrown up there.
I think going to the wrestling would be smart for him.
I think his experience will have him not that nervous
before this fight.
I mean, he's fought a lot of fighters.
It's not the nerves per se,
because he's not gonna be nervous,
but it's the bright lights now.
It's not even the nerves, it's just you're here.
You wanna make the impact too.
That's it, you wanna make a- You win this fight, it's like sky's the limit.
You lose, there's still fights.
You could do a Chandler rematch, is not a bad shout.
There are exciting fights for you to have,
but man, you start off with a win on this Miami card,
on the main card of it too, that is a stamp
on your welcome to the UFC.
It feels like the way to beat Yair is to not let him strike. That's just, it's pretty obvious. It's the same height when you're to the UFC. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like the way to beat Yair
is to not let him strike.
Like that's just, it's pretty obvious.
It's the same height when you're on the ground.
When you're on the ground, you're the same height,
you're the same speed, right?
It's on the ground and so,
it feels like Pitbull has a huge advantage there.
I wonder if Yair maybe doesn't throw as many kicks
because of the fear of potentially being taken down.
In the grappling realm, I mean, Pitbull is super, super good.
I don't know.
I, when I envision the fight, when I play it out in my mind,
I see Pitbull just finding an opening
to either take it to the ground
or just weathering the storm,
the early storm in the first round
and then rounds two and three, he's just the more busy guy.
I think it's gonna be a close decision.
Who wins?
Who wins it? I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm gonna lean Patricio Pitbull.
I think a lot of people are writing him off
just because he's debuting from Bellator and he's 37.
If it's not a finish, I would think Pitbull, right?
Like if it's a finish, I'm thinking Yair.
Oh, I agree, I agree.
I think Yair wins early if it's a finish.
Yeah, another just sick fight.
These top four, the whole main card is awesome.
There's paths to victory for every fighter in
all four of these matches. I love it. I love it man. I can't wait and that's what makes for great
fights. Let's finish off the main card Nikita Krylov taking on Dominic Reyes. Unfortunately this
was supposed to be the protest versus Jeff Neal fight but now we're getting protest versus Ian
Garry main event of UFC Kansas City that's not bad itself. Krylov, coming back after a two year layoff,
shoulder injury, still only 32,
sneaky three fight win streak.
Reyes, one two of his own, looking good as of late.
I guess the question is, is Reyes, has he turned it back?
Is the chin okay?
Can we give him a break for his knockout losses
being to Yuri, Jan, and Ryan Spann,
who all hold massive power in their hands?
And can he turn back the clock and get another dub
to extend his winning streak to three this weekend?
I'm gonna say yes.
And not just because I would forgive knockout losses
to guys like that who carry power,
but also just, I think the mental hurdle is cleared. I think the biggest thing for Dominic Reyes was.
Seeing him go through the hoop.
Seeing it go through the hoop.
That's exactly right.
You're, you lost four in a row and you feel like
you're never going to win again.
And you get that win over Dustin Jacoby, which
is a nice win.
Um, you get that win over Anthony Smith, which is
another nice win.
I think the mental hurdle, the, you were supposed
to be the guy that beat John Jones and now you're nothing. This like, this, I think the mental hurdle, the, you were
supposed to be the guy that beat John Jones
and now you're nothing.
This like, this everybody was dumping on
Dominic Reyes and now it feels like he's
got a redemption arc and everybody wants
him to succeed.
That to me is the biggest difference.
And if you had flashed this back to a
different point in their careers, if you
gave me Dominic Reyes versus Nikita
Krilov, I'm always taking Dominic Reyes versus Nikita Krylov,
I'm always taking Dominic Reyes.
And I still feel that way now, even though he's a slight dog.
For sure.
And I also wonder where Krylov is at.
Yeah.
Two years off shoulder injury.
I know he's on a three fight win streak,
but we haven't seen him since 2023.
I think if it stays standing,
Dominic Reyes is going to be able to have a lot of success.
I think Krylov could take it to the mat, though he has been subbed a lot in the UFC, but I
don't think you really need to worry about that here against Reyes.
Yeah, I don't think that's the concern.
But like I feel like the success will come from Krilov taking it to the mat.
Another sneaky part about this fight, I feel like everyone forgets this every
time the minor steps in there. 39 pro fights I believe, and 35 of them have not gone
to a decision. Like he's almost always in interesting fights.
Yeah, he's a finisher, he gets finished.
You look at his resume too, I mean if we have to be fair,
we looked at Dominic Reyes' resume.
Win over Ryan Spann, who Reyes has a loss to.
Win over Volkan Uzdimir, went over Alexander Guffseson.
Some nice things.
Decision lost to Magomed Uncle Ive.
Decision lost to Magomed, went over
Johnny Walker, lost to Glover Teshara,
lost to Jan Blachowicz.
They both have a loss to Jan.
Like he's also been very good against the
non elite of the elite competition.
So I think it's a pretty fair fight.
It's a pretty evenly matched fight.
For sure.
But if you're giving me Reyes at a decently
steep dog price, I'm probably gonna lean that direction.
Yeah, it's gonna be great.
The whole main card, just go ahead and just block off.
10 o'clock on on Saturday night,
just go ahead and block that off,
it's gonna be fantastic.
Let's jump into it.
I just need some barking, maybe even literal.
I just need somebody to bark at the press conference
and hopefully, Jean Selva can deliver that. I think they're going to pop it off. I think it's going
to be great. And I think come Saturday, once the fights actually start, you're going to start
getting more excited. Those Miami crowds are always fantastic. Let's go to the prelims.
Danny, Sean Woodson, love that fight. Love this. Um, Sean Woodson is going to be massive compared
to Danny Gay. It's like they found a shorter feather weight to take on the tallest featherweight,
five seven versus six two, seven inch height advantage,
seven inch reach advantage.
If this doesn't end up on the ground,
and Sean Woodson is skilled on the ground as well,
it's tough to get your arm extended upwards
to hit a guy that is seven inches taller than you.
I think Sean Woodson just needs to stay at range
and just out point Dan Ege.
I mean, we saw in the Lerone Murphy fight,
it is just hard.
If you're Dan Ege, it's hard to close that space.
It is hard to, it is hard to fight against guys
who are this long.
And Sean Woodson's even longer, like.
And he's the longest at 145, man.
Yeah, I just, I don't see, I don't see how,
I don't see how he has a path to victory yet Dan Ege
When always put in situations where he does not have a path to victory finds a way to win. Oh god
Yeah, I mean also the grittiest the path to victory is to just close the distance and find the chin
I mean Danny gay like I don't want to go back and look at the Luis Aldana fight for Sean Watson
I think he's a much better fighter now than he was then.
I mean, he's on a four fight winning streak since then.
But he did get knocked down twice in that one and ended up being a draw because Saldana
thought the fight was over.
A very interesting fight, but his chin could get checked and Dan Ege is a guy that can
do that at 145.
Watson's been pretty good lately about keeping that range, keeping that distance.
And so I'm just leaning
that direction, but.
It's just like, brother, stay out of the fire,
and you'll win the fight.
Don't even stay out of the fire.
Get close to the fire.
Because he's,
Danny Gay has to cross that threshold to get to you,
you don't.
You don't have to play that game, and so don't let him.
I think that's likely what's gonna happen
for the STL sniper.
I'm gonna go Sean Wilson probably
by a points decision in this one.
But still a great fight because Danny Ye can change it
in the course of a second.
It's gonna be fun.
Verna Jandiroba taking on Yan-Jao Nan.
Another one that I just think the path is just right there.
Oh, put it on, baby.
Put it on, I forgot.
And we got the picture right there.
Shout out Verna. We got the hat. I wonder if she'll be walking out with the hat. Put it on, I forgot. And we got the picture right there. Shout out Verna.
We got the hat.
I wonder if she'll be walking out with the hat.
I feel like it looks good.
It actually does look pretty good, honestly.
For a hat like that, you're pulling it off.
Do we need to do the eye?
The sexy eye with the Verna hat on?
Shout out to the Verna hat.
Yeah, it just feels like the path.
It's just like, hey.
Take it down.
We wanna take her down.
Like we've seen Carlos Spparza have a ton of success
taking her down.
Mackenzie Dern only got her down twice,
but when she got her down, the round was over.
Like extended periods of time.
Zhang Weili, it looked like the fight was starting to turn
at UFC 300, and then she just relied on the wrestling
and just had a ton of success there.
If Verna gets this to the ground,
there's a world where it's just like two takedowns
and you win the fight, Verona,
because you'll probably just be able to remain on top
for the rest of the round.
Bernadette Jengiroba's last four fights.
Angela Hill, win by unanimous decision.
Marina Rodriguez, win by unanimous decision.
Lupi Godinez, win by unanimous decision.
Amanda Lemosh, arm bar, round two.
Yan Xiaonan, like you add another win right there it's like who could you be
looking at as the number one contender other than her? No she would have to be next for the
title. The only way she doesn't get the title fight is is Jan goes and fights at
125 against Valentina. Massive opportunity for her. Massive opportunity. The resume is
there. Eileen Verna, I'm a little bit surprised that the odds are as close as they are but at
the same time you do have to respect ya yaan shanan she's proven against upper
level competition including the champion Zhang Wei Li that like she is always game
and she's always able to find a way to fight even if if as you said right
Mackenzie Dern is able to ride out these rounds but she's able to find a way to
get back into those fights.
You have to respect her toughness, you have to respect
her game ability, but Eileen Verna, because the path
is just so clear, the path is just so clear.
Yeah, I mean, Yan-Yan is a dog.
If the take downs aren't happening for Verna,
then Yan is gonna have a fantastic opportunity
to beat her on the feet, but a great women's fight in these prelims.
Let's keep it rolling.
Chase Hooper, Jim Miller.
Love Jim Miller, man.
How can you not love Jim Miller, legend?
And honestly, I'm starting to love Chase Hooper.
Yeah, me too.
Love the Twitter game, love his just like,
the air about him.
And I love how he's taken his licks,
he's taken his losses and he's been able to improve since.
And now just like, he's starting to put together a run, like gotten married, had the kid, life's
going well for him.
He's starting to really...
It's a grown man.
Grown ass man, starting to have some success in the UFC.
It's kind of like the main event.
Like I don't really want to see either guy lose, but I think Chase Hooper's a minus 900
for a reason.
I don't know if it should be that big.
Minus 900?
Minus 900 for big Chase Hooper.
Just the age disparity here, but I think he probably wins.
And I feel like he can get this to the ground
and inflict some damage on Jim Miller.
Never wanna see Jim Miller lose,
but that's kinda how I see this one going.
Yeah, I'm the same way.
I just feel like Chase is on a Legends tour right now.
He knocked off Guida.
Now he's moving on to Jam.
I think he's going to be able to get it done.
He's really impressed me lately.
As you've said, the game has improved leaps and bounds.
And he's only 25, and he continues
to add pieces to his game.
He's growing into his body.
He's got the weapons.
He's got the submission game, obviously.
The hands are not looking too bad. He's long. He's he's got the weapons. He's got the submission game, obviously. Um, the hands are not looking too bad.
He's long.
He's able to use the jab.
I just, he dropped a Slava clause.
I was like, what the, this chase got hands.
Yeah.
Chase got his super.
And honestly, the Steve Garcia loss is
not aging too poorly, man.
No, it is on a tear.
Steve Garcia lost then followed by four wins.
Yeah.
Uh, including Jordan Levitt, including Slava
clauses, he had it in clay Guida who I know advanceditt, including Slava Claus as he had it, and then Clay Guida who,
I know advanced age, but like not an easy out
for anybody, especially somebody who's so young
in the game 25, and that's a real step up.
I almost wish that the odds weren't so big
because Jim Miller is still a solid win
on your resume, man. That's the thing.
Everyone's gonna be like, oh, you were a minus 900,
you were supposed to win, but it's like,
dude, Jim Miller is a good win.
To me, this is a more dangerous fight
than Clay Guida, much more.
Oh, for sure, for sure.
I want to say, like, Jim Miller is on an insane streak
of like, he's won one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven, eight, nine, 10, 10 straight wins.
Like all his last 10 wins are by finish.
Right.
Like he finishes people, man.
He's not grinding out decisions, no.
Jim can, Jim can hit with power.
Jim's a fantastic grappler.
He's good at mixing all those things.
He's just so savvy.
45 octagon walks, too.
Insane.
Insane.
Look, I don't ultimately, do you think
experience will come into play?
I just feel like Chase Hooper's been in there so many times
at this point.
Yeah, and he's got 18 professional fights himself.
It's not, I don't think that's gonna be a factor.
I think Chase is gonna be fine,
and ultimately I side with him.
But would I be surprised if in a weird kind of exchange,
Jim Miller clipped him and jumped on a rear naked choke
or something crazy like that?
No, I really wouldn't.
He's just that guy.
It's because it's Jim Miller.
Yeah, it's Jim F.Miller.
It's class.
I guess I like the matchmaking, I think it's a fun fight, but it's just F.Miller. It's class. I guess I like the matchmaking.
I think it's a fun fight, but it's just one that I'm like,
I'm a fan of both guys.
Yeah, agreed.
Let's keep it rolling.
Speaking of 40 year olds, Darren Elkins,
the damage taken on Julian, Juicy J, Arosa,
just feels like we're signing up for carnage.
Just feels like we're signing up for carnage.
I almost wanna like live stream our reaction
just to this fight. Maybe we go on air for 15 minutes just to see. All right guys, we're signing up for garbage. I almost want to like live stream our reaction just to this fight. Yeah.
Maybe we go on air for 15 minutes just to see.
All right guys, we're going on at 7.15,
we'll be out at 7.30, and then we'll join back at 9.45.
Yeah, it just feels like this is just like.
It's gonna be nuts.
This is the one where like you're watching
with your friends and they're like,
what's this next one?
It's like, it's Darren Elkins, Julian Arose.
It's like, I've never really heard of any guys.
So we're, don't worry, it's gonna be sick.
Yeah.
It's gonna be sick. They're going to try to kill each other. For sure. And maybe they'll be successful and it's like, I've never really heard of any guys. Just like, don't worry, it's going to be sick. Yeah. It's going to be sick. They're going to try to kill each other.
For sure.
Um, and maybe they'll be successful and it's, it's fantastic.
I'm, I love this one.
Obviously there's not really like a lot of high stakes here, but.
Really good one for the fans.
It feels like, you know, like after, after a little bit of a, of a up and down ish run,
I feel like a Rosa's kind of like shown, like the level, like the, the win over
Christian Rodriguez was pretty nice. And I'm, I'm just like, it feel like Arosa's kind of like shown the level, like the win over Christian Rodriguez
was pretty nice and I'm just like,
it feels like it should be Juicy J,
but we'll ultimately see in finishing Darren Elkins
or even being able to stave off the third round
inevitable comeback by Darren Elkins
as proven impossible for many.
But I like Juicy J here, but I really like this fight a lot.
Yeah, for sure.
It's just one that you're just excited about, and I think that's what gives this card so
much depth.
It's just like fights like this.
A fight like this being the fifth fight up is like, holy shit.
Irina Yan, Sean Woodson versus Danny Gay, there's just like really good fights on it.
Let's go to SD DuMasse taking on Mikael Olexaychuk, who is now-
One of our favorites, I feel like.
We both kind kinda like him.
He's just like a slaughter monster.
Yeah.
He just goes in there and he throws
the biggest overhands you've ever seen.
Like, he gets full extension.
Like, it looks like he's swimming laps
at your local pool when he starts going like,
him versus Smiling Sam Alvey.
Oh yeah, yeah.
He was just like, yeah, I ain't losing this fight.
I'm coming in here and I'm just blasting dude
until he goes down.
Now a member of the Fighting Nerds.
Wow.
Will this make a difference?
Lord Mikko, along with Lord Jean Silva.
Going in there, we saw him earlier in the glasses,
pictures with Proches.
Look at that, he's got the glasses on.
He's official official.
Pablo Sucupira, the head coach of fighting nerds,
will be in his corner this weekend,
so I'm interested to see if the magic
is really there for that gym.
That could be the test.
He's on a three fight skid.
We've seen SD, here's the, there's like the,
there's the path A, it's the castle
with the rainbows and the sunshine.
Yeah, what's path A?
It's like Oleg Seichek just comes in here
and just launches over hands and catches his chin
and wins by knockout and he throws on the glasses
and he's like, I'm back baby,
I'm with the fighting nerds, dubs.
Smokes a cig with Carlos.
Now we're talking.
A little Polish cigarette going.
Path B is, Esti Dumas has had some success
with the grappling.
He comes in here and just takes down Mikael.
And like, he hasn't been getting like finishing grappling.
It's really just been, he's using the grappling
to get decision wins.
We go 15 minutes and it's not a very exciting fight.
And we're kind of hoping Mikael can get it off
at the start of each round, but he's just unable to do it.
That would be not a great world.
Give me the giant overhands baby! Yeah
let's slug it out. Let's slug it out. Speaking of slugging it out, Sumiderji
taking on Mitch Raposo. I can't see Sumiderji and not go back to UFC Long
Island in 2022 against Matt Schnell. My fight of the year that year, bloody like
that is the best fight I've ever seen live. Unfortunately I still haven't, I've
only been to a couple UFC events. That is easily the best fight I've ever seen live, unfortunately, I've only been to a couple UFC events.
That is easily the best fight I have seen live.
Better than Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano won.
Holy shit.
The crowd was just like, the amount of times
that it looked like it was about to get finished
and these guys are just drenched in blood.
Or was finished, but not really, and then finish it again.
Dude is willing to go out on a shield.
Unfortunately, both these guys, Sumiderji on a three fight
losing streak, Raposo on a 0-2 since joining the UFC.
Someone's gotta win though.
I favor Sumiderji, I just think the experience
and I just think he's more skilled.
I don't rate Raposo that high,
but I think it's going to be an exciting fight.
Like a lot of these fights I see on this card.
Yeah, I think they're both at points in their career
where they just need to have a performance. They need to put on a Yeah, I think they're both at points in their career where they just need to have a performance.
They need to put on a show, and I think
they're capable of that.
Yeah.
Two more to look forward to.
Treshaun Gore taking on Marco Tulio.
Atlanta boy, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fighting out of South Carolina.
Oh, he is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought he was in Atlanta.
He may train out of Atlanta.
OK.
Get a win here and go fight on that UFC Atlanta card.
This is just another fight.
Two guys younger in their careers.
Trayshon Gord felt like we really had something there.
He suffered two losses.
Now he's got, back in the one column,
still only seven professional fights.
Marco Tulio, obviously very on in his early career,
only one UFC fight coming off a contender series.
I favor Tulio, but it's not something
I'm running to the window to place.
Yeah, I'm, man, Trishon Gore, I remember coming,
this is gonna shock you, I watched that season of Tough.
Wow, you're watching this season?
Yeah, that's a resounding yes.
You gotta support DC.
DC and Chael, those yellow jerseys are nice, I got one in the mail on the way. Wait has it actually started?
No, not next month. Okay. No reality show broke. I will not be there no matter what
That's why I will not be there. We will not be there no matter what I
Coming off that season I was like man Tray Sean Gore is like kind of a do I Oh, I remember this. I remember this. And I feel like he's kind of not maybe
lived up to that potential, but you look
at the last two, you know, Josh Frammed,
Antonio Tricoli, two guillotine chokes.
He's first of all, he's got that.
Like that's the one thing, you know, if
he's, if he's up against the cage, he has
that choke, but he's also got the power
in his hands.
I feel like he might be able to find
something here.
I'm not banking on it. Yeah. Um, Tulio is a favorite for a choke, but he's also got the power in his hands. I feel like he might be able to find something here.
I'm not banking on it.
Yeah.
Tulio's a favorite for a reason, but I don't know.
I feel like people are kind of like,
he fights infrequently and people have kind of lost
like touch with him.
Yeah.
But I think he's live here.
I like Trayshon Gore.
I mean, man, you mentioned the guillotine,
the one against Josh Fremd when he literally
like picked him up by the guillotine. It was just like ragdolling him. And then obviously he got another one against Tricoli with mentioned the guillotine, the one against Josh Fremd when he literally like picked him up by the guillotine
and was just like ragdolling him
and then obviously he got another one against
Shrekoli with the standing guillotine.
Yeah, he's nice with it.
He's nice with that.
It's, I think Tulio wins,
but like it's tough to say on these early cards
with guys that have, you know,
combined like 20 fights between the two.
Yeah.
First fight on the card, Nora Cornoli
taking on Haley Cowan.
Not a ton to say about this one. Could be exciting. Feels like it's just been
start stop start stop with Haley, right? Like a bunch of cancellations like I'm
just looking forward to seeing her in there. Split decision, contender series. Yeah. I mean, Cavalcanti last time for
Cornoli by split decision. Yeah. Hopefully it's just a banger to start off the
card, but we'll see. Yeah.
Proper curtain joker as they say.
Yeah, it's solid.
That is all of UFC 314.
That is the entire card. That's a card.
Incredible card, can't wait for it.
Reminder, you can watch it with us right here on Saturday
night, 945 Eastern.
We will be having the watch party,
watch the entire main card with you.
Those five fights.
Here's the early prelims, Cornelie Cowan,
Gore Tullio, prelims,
Ege Woodson, Yanjana Amirian, Chandra Roba.
I mean the last like eight, nine fights
are just unbelievable and then that main card.
Whew!
Sign me up for this, man.
Sign me up for this, I cannot wait for it.
UFC Miami, they always put on good shows.
Last year was O'Malley Cheeto, the year before that.
It was Adesanya versus Pereira too they always put on good fights and I think this is going to
deliver as well this weekend that is not the only MMA happening this weekend
though PFL we got an update to the bracket for the women's flyweight
tournament we do Tyler Santos out of the tournament.
Yeah, all of our favorite.
Defending runner up?
I actually didn't have her.
I was the only one that didn't have her.
Oh, you didn't?
Oh, you had Carmouche, right?
Yeah, I had Liz Carmouche.
That one goes down tomorrow night,
9 p.m. Eastern start for that card.
Eight fights again, very similar to last week.
Leandro Higo will now be taking on Marcerilli Alves.
Yeah, Josh Reddinghaus is out.
And who was he originally supposed to fight?
It wasn't supposed to be Reddinghaus.
Oh, it was Magomed Magomedov.
Oh my God, the guy who was gonna be the champion.
Yeah, it's been tough for PFO with the pullouts
and everything, but they forge on, you have to.
Yeah, can we look, we have our flyweight brackets
because we all had to repick because we were going,
I had, so let's get yours first.
Oh, here's mine, Carmuchstay's champ
and I just have Juliano Velasquez
making the championship now as opposed to Tyler Santos.
Got Asva Rogova, nothing really changes for me.
We're just flipping Velasquez.
Velasquez with Tyler Santos.
Santos going that far.
Even keeping a Brazilian in there.
In mine, I've got Kermush as well
and I basically have nearly identical bracket.
Yeah, you just have a Laura Dono winning.
Yeah, I have her winning the first round.
I think Pizzi actually has her winning it all.
Wait, really?
Yeah.
Holy shit, all right.
Yeah, big pick for Pizzi there.
And then, if we have it, I guess we wouldn't
because they still have to update it.
But the men's 135.
We wouldn't have the new one,
but I don't think our brackets are changed that much.
Can we look at our bantamweight brackets for tomorrow?
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, big Jake Hadley, White Kong.
You had ego winning that fight over Reddinghouse anyway.
I'm sure I had the same.
I think so, too.
Shout out to you with the Jake Hadley championship.
Hey, come on, White Kong, let's go.
I've got our boy who's fighting tomorrow taking it all the way.
Yeah that's gonna be a good one the
semifinals yeah I mean I think I think
Higo gets past the replacement anyway so
yeah shout out to PFL another one from
beautiful Universal Studios down in
Orlando late start for that one on a
Friday night. Should we go out so I can
ride the Velociraptor the Velocicoaster?
If we were gonna go it'd be 20% for the PFL fights 80apt, the Velocicoaster? If we were gonna go, it'd be 20% for the PFL Pites,
80% for the Velocicoaster.
Yeah, maybe. I'll consider it.
Shout out to PFL though, that's going down tomorrow night.
And then obviously the main event on Saturday, UFC 314.
All right, let's recap what happened last week.
Shout out some big hitters,
and then we will run through the Parlay Pals
and the bets for UFC 314, obviously,
and PFL if you wanna pick it for the Parlay Pals.
All right, the recap of my bets last week,
a slight win for me between PFL and UFC,
like less than a unit on each,
but up like 1.39 on the week.
Any winning week's a good week, overall record.
Up 47.76 units.
Parley-Pow's, Pizzi, not quite working out.
He went with, who'd he go with, Joe Anderson Brito
to get it done.
Cost us, cost us.
We would've been back in the green.
How is it that every single time
it's always Pizzi blowing it?
I know.
Do we have to have a talk?
The both of the one was close.
No, no, but he won, he won.
Yeah, Pizzi cost on us, man.
He does it consistently.
But it is what it is.
Pizzi, Pizzi, Pizzi, okay.
It is what it is.
All right, let's shout out some big hitters real quick
and then we'll get into our picks.
First up on the big hitters, McPix MMA,
one of the best out there.
He turns $300 into $1,173.
He goes Pat Sabatini by decision or decision only.
Martin Budai and the over two and a half
in the Pedro Falco, Victor Henry fight.
Nailed it, turns $300 into 1173.
Let's keep rolling.
Oh man, Michael B gambling.
Shout out of the week.
Jason Jackson by submission plus $1,200, $50 on
that turns into 650.
Jason Jackson by submission and round two plus
$3,900.
Turns $50 into $3,900. Yeah.
Turns $50 into $2,100 worth of investment into $2,750,
all by Jason Jackson.
Get in the neck.
Shout out to Michael. Michael Dooby Gamblin.
Michael Dooby Gamblin, he certainly does.
All right, next up, the Arthur O'Hara four leg parlay
plus $43.76.
Brad Tavares by points, Chang Ho Lee,
Pat Sabatini by points.
Lerone Murphy by points. Not a big wager but we don't unit shame around here.
$1.25 into $55. Buckaroones and then I think we have one more.
Dravi MMA. This kid is a stud. He's a legend. $2,900 into $83.84. This is just a
couple of his slips. Hits Chang Ho Lee by round two victory
250 Canadian dollars into over
3,000 and then he also hit Pat Sabatini money line plus 240 put 500 on that
So yeah, man, I want to smidge but as always the fans are hitting big they always do the the
Method of victory with round. I just like, I don't have the stones to put $300
on that like specific outcome.
I don't have the knowledge either, man.
Yeah.
It's truly incredible the way that some of these people
hit them, so shout out to them.
I think we're gonna get a lot of big hitters
off of UFC 314 as well.
All right, let's rip the Parlay Pals'
Pete C's pick already in.
Do I always talk about him losing?
Uh-oh.
A la Dominic Reyes, he just wants to see one
go through the hoop.
Through the hoop-er.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh no, I feel the Jim Miller knockout coming.
Oh no.
If Jim Miller wins, then Pizzi really is a curse.
Oh no. All right, wins, then Pizzi really is a curse. Oh no.
All right, into the randomizer we go.
Beep boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop.
All right, Frankie, you're going first.
Rick will go second.
I will go third.
There's only one person.
There's only one it could be.
There never is, man.
Give me a reason.
Give me a reason why you're gonna take
whoever you're about to pick.
Because he's made out of fucking iron.
No. Wow! Give you Michael Chandler, all day long money line. Okay, Michael Chandler money line.
All right. I love it. Is he a dog? He's a dog. Yeah, he's a dog in this one. This is not where I saw
you going, Frankie. This is not where I saw you going. I love it. I watched a video earlier today
and it just it flipped the script. it of him yeah, I'm steak
Say it again was it of him eating cold steak. It was of him eating cold steaks, okay
I had you pegged as a Marco Tulio silver
That would have happened I have you pegged as a Marco Tulio silver in fact
Maybe I have even talked about silver earlier. Yeah, Yeah, no. I have to go with my heart.
No, I was reading breakfast the other day,
and you were like, this guy Marco Tulio Silva
is going to fucking put it on Trey Shongora.
I was like, all right.
But then I was like, would he ever eat cold steak?
And the answer was no.
It's the cold steak.
Michael Chandler plus 130.
Chase Hooper minus 850.
Michael Chandler plus 130.
I'm going to go a little risky, but not super risky,
but I'm taking a small favorite.
Okay.
I'm gonna go with my...
Oh, play it up, play it up, get the picture down.
Verna Genji Roba minus 142.
Please do it for us, get it done.
Verna Genji Roba.
Verna minus 142, that leads us to me.
You see the shirt, Y'all must have
forgot. It's really just a heartbed. Volk, one of my favorite fighters, cooking with
Volk. A true inspiration. Yeah, just Alexander Volkanovski. If we're just going to have some
fun. Iron Mike Chandler, Alexander Volkanovski, Verna Jentgeroba, and Chase Hooper. Chase Hooper
has actually moved to minus 900 pizzi. We are approaching the minus 1000 threshold
before legs plus 642 will be firmly planted
in the green if we can get this.
Yeah, you've got like a near coin flip.
I've got a almost coin flip.
Frankie's got a dog.
He's got a coin flip but he's got a dog.
Pizzi's got the safest.
And then Pizzi's got the safest. Iron dog. And then Pizzi's got the safest.
Yeah, I thought you were gonna pull something out
that Marco Tullio Silva loves collecting iron weapons
or something like that.
You were just such a Marco Tullio Silva guy.
Look man, if you want me to go with Silva,
I can do it. No, no, no, no,
I like the Michael Chandler pick.
I like the Michael Chandler pick.
I like the Michael Chandler pick.
All right.
The cold steak is what changes up for you.
Yep. Wow, we've got some steaks
in the final two fights, as long as we get there. There we go. As long as we get there. That's what people up for you. Wow, we've got some stakes in the final two fights,
as long as we get there.
There we go.
As long as we get there.
That's what people subscribe for, the puns.
Yeah, I said stakes.
Yeah, all right, let me run through my bets
quickly for us here, and then we'll get the fight fees,
and then the messages you left us.
All right, first up, Sumiderji on the money line.
I know he's lost three straight, but I like the experience,
and I like the finishing capability, I like the toughness for Sue. I know he's lost three straight, but I like the experience and I like the finishing capability.
I like the toughness for Sue.
I think he gets it done.
I don't rate Reposo too highly.
Sumiderji money line it is.
Next up, I will be taking the under
in the Jim Miller versus Chase Hooper fight.
I know I just mentioned Jim Miller,
last 10 of his wins come by finish. Chase Hooper also has finishing capabilities.
I like his hands and I just think if he's going to get it done,
I could see him getting it to the ground and just raining down ground and pound.
I think if Miller wins it's by finish. I think if Hooper wins it is by finish.
He is minus 900 for a reason. Under two and a half in that one.
Let's keep it rolling.
Virna Jandiroba, just like your pick right there, I just think the path to
victory is just so clear for her. Get her down, take her down. It might just take two
take downs. We've seen Yan-Zhang Nan get taken down and just be held down there for the remainder
of the rounds. Vierna Jandiroba, an accomplished grappler. I think she can get this one done.
We roll along. My guy, STL sniper, Sean Woodson. Seven inches of height, seven inches of reach,
knows how to use that range in the striking.
It's just too big of a differential.
It's gonna be too tough for Danny Gay to close the distance.
I think Sean Woodson out points him to a decision.
Next up, Dominic Reyes.
We're not done yet.
Turn back the clock.
Avoid the grappling, stay in the striking, find the chin, we're not done yet. Turn back the clock, avoid the grappling,
stay in the striking, find the chin,
put out Kriolov, Dominic Reyes, money line, as a dog.
In all honesty, like I do,
and playing the number on this one,
I think Dominic Reyes as a dog is good value
against Kriolov coming off two years
and a shoulder injury.
Next up, I said it in the breakdown,
I think it's gonna be close, Patricio Pitbull plus three and a half points. If you, I said it in the breakdown. I think it's going to be close.
Patricio Pitbull plus three and a half points.
If you don't know how this works, it is
available on DraftKings, it's available on a
couple other books now.
They were the first to introduce it.
Judge's scorecards, you add them up in the end.
If it's 30, 27, 29, 28, 29, 28, that would be one
for the 29, 28, one for the 29, 28, and then three
for the 30, 27, that would be a five point
differential.
For example, if it's a split, you can one for the 29, 28, and then three for the 30, 27. That would be a five point differential, for example.
If it's a split, you can just do the math.
Three 29, 28s would be a three point differential.
So essentially, Patricio Pippel needs to win one round.
I think he can do so.
I think he goes to the grappling at some point
and then the height doesn't matter.
The danger on the feet doesn't matter.
And I think he'll be able to get some success.
I think he can win the fight,
but I do like this plus three and a half points
as I think he goes to a decision. I think he can win the fight, but I do like this plus three and a half points as I think it goes to decision.
I think he can keep it close.
Next up, Frankie, you already did the breakdown for me, baby.
Iron, Mike Chandler.
Iron!
I just think the level of competition that he has fought
compared to the level of competition that Patty has fought,
I think this will be the toughest test for Patty.
I think this will be the biggest step down for Chandler
since he entered the UFC.
I don't know what's going to happen, but at dog odds,
I like the guy in Michael Chandler who's been fighting
the best of the best for years now, has finishing power.
It's just, like you said, what's the game plan gonna be
for Michael Chandler out there?
We're gonna find out on Saturday night
in the co-main event. And then the main event, it's just a heart pick.
I'm riding with Alexander Volkanovsky.
I think he still is king at featherweight.
I'm not going to be ashamed of losses to Islam Agashev,
pound for pound number one,
Ilya Toporya, pound for pound number two.
I think he's in fantastic shape coming into this one.
I think he'll be weary in the first 10 minutes
of Diego Lopez's finishing capabilities.
And then as the fight goes on,
he's gonna figure out the puzzle
and he's going to put it on him.
As the later rounds happen, two parlays,
the Fighting Nerds parlay, baby.
Oleg Sechek, John Silva.
It's not really a confidence thing.
It's a gimmick thing.
The Fighting Nerds parlay.
Oleg Sechek, John Silva. And then lastly, Cornel Cowan over one and a half
and Marco Tullio Silva, money line.
Did you play that because Frank was so high on Marco Tullio?
Yeah, honestly, you're the one that talked me into it.
And now you're like, what?
Share John, you guys are doing pretty good.
Try to keep up.
Tough.
But I do like the over one and a half a lot
in that Cornel Cowan fight at minus 350.
And those are the picks for UFC 314, UFC 314,
UFC 3.14, which is a representation of pie.
Which brings us to this week's episode of Fight
Feast for UFC 314.
We don't need to say UFC Miami.
UFC 314, UFC 3.14.
Me, Frankie, camera guy Nick, we got in the Winnebago
and we went all around New York City
to try and find the best pie in honor of UFC 314.
Pie, best pie in all of New York City.
We tried five different places.
Please enjoy.
All right, it is UFC 314 fight week happening down in Miami, Florida. Alexander Volkonovsky
against Diego Lopez. And you're probably thinking fight feast is easy. No brain. Get a couple Cubans,
have a couple cafecitos, call it a day. But we don't like easy here at fight feast. We don't like
easy here on crown. So Big Frankie had an idea for us. UFC 314? 314. Also like the transcendental number Pi, which is 3.14.
I decided why don't we just try a bunch of different pies? There'll be plenty of UFC Miamis.
There's only one UFC pie. So we are on the hunt.
Manhattan, Brooklyn, through all the different boroughs for the best pie in all of New York City. Let's go.
Fight Fist episode...
20? Is this episode 20, Frankie? It's a big deal. It's a big deal. Fight Fist episode 20. Let's go. Five piece episode 20? Is this episode 20 Frankie? It's a big deal.
It's a big deal. Five piece episode 20. Let's go.
All right here we go. First stop of the day we are at Four and Twenty Blackbirds here in Brooklyn.
No apple pie by the slice but I am looking forward to trying their salted honey. Let's go.
All right first up Four and Twenty Blackbirds. Farmers cheese pie. We're gonna start
savory here and then we're gonna go to sweet. We got a few to try. Of course I
got mysterious frank with me. Ricotta, cheese, I don't know what's all in here but savory pie.
Alright savory but also a little bit sweet. Maybe a little spinach in there.
Alright we're breaking off a piece of the crust here. I
Mean, it's fantastic
This is like a breakfast quiche on the professional pie rating scale out of five on each of the categories
Appearance like a two crust for filling for overall texture to the neat ice cream now
Does it remind me of home now? So I don't know what that means. I hear you go salted honey pie
This is the first sweet one. We're trying here the woman behind the counter said this is the reason she started working Does it remind me of home? No. So I don't know what that means. Alright here we go. Salted honey pie.
This is the first sweet one we're trying here.
The woman behind the counter said this is the reason she started working at this place.
This is one of their best pies.
She demanded we have whipped cream with it.
She pulled out like a fire hydrant of whipped cream and put it on here.
Beautiful salt flakes on top.
It's hard getting through the crust dude.
Yeah this one's great. Whipped cream is unreal. It feels like it's fresh. There's a crust in.
Yeah, this one's great. But creme is unreal.
Feels like it's fresh.
It almost looks like it's a pumpkin pie.
It almost looks like it's a sweet potato pie.
But it's not very gooey on the inside.
Appearance five.
It's absolutely beautiful.
Crust.
Let's get a little dip in there.
Crust.
Crust is tough to get through on the bottom.
Crust gets a three.
Filling, soft, gooey, delicious, four.
Overall texture, five.
Does it need ice cream or whipped cream?
I'm gonna say no, but I think it's better with it.
Does it remind me of home?
No, I don't think any of these pies
are gonna remind me of home.
My mom actually never made pies growing up.
It's okay, man, it's all right.
4.2 out of five overall.
All right, here we go. Matcha custard pie. Me and Frank got this because we like matcha.
And it seems like an interesting pie flavor. Ooh, this is thick. It's almost like a cheesecake.
This is not what I was expecting. Very firm. I had to almost pull it away from it.
This is heavier than I was expecting it to be. I thought this was gonna be light, fluffy.
It's like the consistency of a cheesecake. I mean I love the flavor
just because I like tea. Don't love the texture. Crust is the exact same as all
the other crusts. Crust gets a 4. Appearance 4. Filling 3. Texture 2.
Doesn't need whipped cream? No. Does it remind me of home? Absolutely not.
Matcha custard 3.2. I'm going salty honey farmer cheese matcha for this
place. Yeah it's a weird texture. As usual I'm trying Connor's leftovers here.
I would definitely say are you eating?
Jacket first into the whipped cream. Definitely an interesting flavor.
It starts off savory.
Going off of the...
I can't do this right now.
Let's see what I find.
Location number two.
We are obviously still not in sunny Miami, we're in Brooklyn still
at Pies and Thighs, specialty is pies, chicken thighs, fried chicken.
We got three pies to try.
First up, bourbon pecan, we're bailing on the rating system, which is just a clean out
of five.
I can't sit here and talk all day about textures and does it remind me of my mother?
No.
Bourbon pecan, hmm, is it pecan of my mother? No. Bourbon pecan.
Hmm.
Is it pecan or pecan?
Tell me Frank, pecan or pecan?
In Long Island or in Long Island?
This is phenomenal.
Sneaky pecan pie might be my favorite kind of pie.
This is top tier.
Crust is great, filling is great.
Pecan's caramelized.
Frank, tell me to look at a dog.
What's up, man?
That is leader in the clubhouse, dare I say.
4.4 out of five on the maple bourbon pecan pecan pie
Mbppp maple bourbon pecan pecan pie 4.4 next up classic staple apple
Worried looks a little dry. This is this is raising some major concerns
Look isn't great. You got some ice cream to balance it out to give it some moisture. A lot of filling to be looking this dry. We need a little bit
more moisture here. It's dry. If you look at the aft of the pie, the aft is
overflowing with moisture. The front end of it dries a bone. 2.6. Alright last but
not certainly not least the banana cream pie. Massive layer of cream does worry
me a little bit. Wafers on top, you gotta love it.
Last one of the day.
I'm lying to you, we still have three more places to go to.
Last one of pies and dyes.
It's a decent banana pudding.
That's essentially what it tastes like.
Not writing home about it.
It'll suffice if you bring it to a dinner party
or something like that.
2.7 on this one by the crust,
graham cracker crust on this one.
It's a typical pie crust.
All right, I tried all three, Frank.
You don't need to try the banana, you don't need to try the apple. Just try the maple bourbon macan. What are you
eating then? Chicken thigh. You got a fucking thigh? Yeah. All right, well let me try it. Let me try the thigh.
The thigh is good. It's a good thigh. The thigh is really good. Wow. The thigh right there,
tied with the maple bourbon pecan pie, 4.4 as well on the thigh.
Shout out.
You're eating that right?
You can still have them.
Alright here we go, third spot.
We've moved from Brooklyn to Manhattan.
Look at that.
Classic old school pie sign.
We got three more pies to try.
We got Big Frankie over here.
Where do we go to try these huh?
Pecan pie, pecan pie, we found a place to stand.
Peedies Pie Company, let's see which one is the best.
We got three.
Wow, wow, this is actually fantastic.
Not warm or anything.
Straight out of the dish.
I think we have a new leader in the clubhouse.
I think we're also finding out that pecan
is my favorite type of pie.
Number one, 4.5 out of five, 4.6 out of five.
Petey's pecan pie.
Yeah, all right, next up, blueberry crumb.
Breaking news, Frank.
Again, we didn't order the sour cherry pie
like you asked me to.
The guy recommended blueberry crumb.
Frank's been dying for a sour cherry pie all day.
I've been telling him to fuck off, here we go.
He said this is their most popular pie.
Oh my God, I see why.
Oh my God.
This fresh out of the oven with ice cream
might be unbeatable.
Wild Maine blueberries, they say.
Leader in the clubhouse.
I don't know if anything is stopping this one.
4.8 out of five.
This is the best pie I've had today.
And it's also the ninth pie.
So we're getting up there.
It's good.
Wow.
No love.
Send a big Uber guy.
God damn it.
He really sold me on it.
So excited.
It was fucking good.
All right, here we go.
Apple pie.
This is a proper apple pie.
This is an all American apple pie right here.
This thing is a thing of beauty.
Oh yeah.
Oh my God.
No offense to Pies and Dice. This puts Pies and Dyes
to shame.
Hmm?
Fork got stuck in my mouth there.
That's good.
That's a fucking good apple pie.
That's good. Good apple pie.
They told me the blueberry crumb was fucking made.
Good apple pie huh?
It's not made!
Is nine pies before noon too many to have?
Cause that's where we're at.
My stomach's starting to feel a little bit, stomach's starting to feel just a little bit.
Instead of the sour cherry, Frank demands to tell us a pie fact.
If you take the ratio between the circumference of a circle by its diameter, you always end
up with pie as the value.
No matter how big the circle, how small the circle,
always 3.14.
I think having like 18 different desserts before noon
is starting to get to me.
Give me that water.
We did do a diner.
You can't do New York City pies without doing a diner.
Unfortunately, someone, crack!
Someone, camera on Nick.
Forgot to turn on the microphone, so here I am yapping about an apple pie, jiggling a
lemon meringue.
Oh man, you know what?
I hate lemon meringue so much.
This one's actually pretty good.
Neither of the pies were anything to write home about.
Next.
Alright here we go, last spot of the day.
Little Pie Company Petey's absolutely dominating.
It's in the one, two, and three right now.
Let's see if Little Pie Company has anything
to take its throne.
Let's go.
We have reached our final destination,
the Little Pie Company.
Does eat fresh pie on the wall,
so that's what we're about to do.
Little Pie Company, they actually serve little pies.
This is the sour cream apple pie.
I don't know what to do with that information,
but here we go, we're gonna dive in, get some crust.
I mean it's beautiful, it's hot, it's warm,
get some more cream on there.
All right, so this is it.
We found the best pie, best apple pie in Manhattan.
My word.
If I hadn't eaten my body weight in pie
over the last four hours,
I would eat this entire thing right now.
That's how good it is.
4.8 out of 5.
This is right there with the blueberry crumb from Peaty's Pie Company.
This is fantastic.
Okay.
Alright, two more pies.
I'm never fucking eating pie again.
Mississippi mud pie, chocolate pie.
Looks like the mud pie I'm gonna fucking put in the john in about three hours after eating
17 different pies. I'm never fucking eating pie again. Mississippi mud pie, chocolate pie. Looks like the mud pie I'm gonna fucking put in the jar
in about three hours after eating
17 different pies today.
Okay, all right.
Okay.
I was expecting like the underneath to like
open up to something, but this is just like solid.
Yeah, this is just like solid chocolate.
I don't know why I signed up for this, but we're just gonna take a bite.
I've mangled this.
We're just gonna take a bite.
It's pretty cute.
It tastes good.
It's rich, it's chocolatey, but with the amount of pie that I've eaten today, this is just
way too much.
Like this is, this thing is dense.
1.8.
This is the least favorite pie of the day.
No, that apple pie.
That apple pie I've eaten today was pretty shitty. Last pie of the day. No, that apple pie. That apple pie was pretty shitty.
Last pie of the day.
Strawberry rhubarb from Little Pie Company.
Right now, sour cream apple from Little Pie Company
and blueberry crumb from Peavey's, Reign Supreme.
There we go, wow, that's a thick crust.
You know, I don't really know how to attack these.
I feel like I look highly coordinated on it.
Okay, there it is, it's a nice bite.
Start. coordinated on it. Okay there it is, it's a nice bite. It's tart.
It's tart. What is a rhubarb? A little bit too tart. Flavor notes I'm getting here.
Tartness. The start on top is great though. This is an okay 5. 2.9. Bring
them back the apple pie. This is the king of the cats right though. This is an okay five. 2.9. Bring me back the apple pie.
This is the king of the cats right here.
This is the best apple pie in New York City.
Just, if you come here and get the sour cream and apple,
that's it.
Five hours later, 14 pies later,
we have scoured the city for the best pie
in all of New York City.
I feel good about where we're at.
Top five of the 14.
Number five, Pies and Thighs Pecan Pie. Absolutely loved that one. Didn't love the other
ones. Apple was horribly dry there. Didn't love the banana cream as well.
Next three are all going to Peedies. Peedies is the best pie place that I've
been to in New York City just based on consistency. Number four, Peedies Apple Pie.
Just a beautiful staple, old-fashioned apple pie. Number three, Peedies Pecan
Pie. I got a soft spot for pecan pie.
They did it tremendously.
We have a two-way tie for first.
I couldn't break the tie.
Peaty's Blueberry Crumb and number one,
Tie for Peaty's, the little pie company.
Sour Cream Apple Pie.
Can't get enough of this.
Bye, food.
Episode four, and you'll see it before 10 this weekend.
I'm never eating pie.
There it is.
Love it.
The best pie in New York City.
Petey's seems to be the best spot.
Petey's is pretty close to here.
I'm going to have to go there.
Like if you went and got a full round pie from there and you like put it in the oven and warmed it up
And you ate it with some ice cream. It would be a top-tier dessert. It was unbelievable. It looked delicious
Blueberry crumb sounds perfect. I also think Frank with the Frank with the not so ringing endorsement
I like it was like a hey the matcha custard was the best damn pie
I've had in New York Wow when he ate the matcha custard. He was like oh, that's all right
Everything's just I was reserving judgment for what the rest of them will be and then little did I know
New York was like we just threw it in the Hudson
Yeah, yeah, well four and twenty blackbird shout out feel like we didn't give him enough love, but that's a solid spot
I've already recommended it to at least
Two people Oh Petey's pie Pie was the one for me.
But it was like the last one on the list.
Yeah, 4 and 20 Blackbird.
It was like everything was good, but it wasn't great for me.
So why is Frank going around recommending?
Oh, because they had the matcha.
I'm sorry, people can have diverging opinions.
Yeah, I forgot, I forgot.
You had the matcha.
I would have gotten your final five,
except you bailed and left early.
It's all good, though.
I had to get a haircut.
Yeah.
Hair didn't look cut to me the next day.
Yeah.
All right, that leads us right into our pound for pound
rankings of best pies.
Yeah.
In honor of UFC 3.14, Frank's favorite number.
This was all Frank's idea, so if you hate it,
directly hate it.
Yeah, just go ahead and send that to.
If you hate it.
Irreel.holy.
No, no, no, Frank. There's a hotline now.
If you hate it, call up 415-sub-BITB.
Let's hear all about it.
And talk about how shitty this idea is.
We have to throw you a bone every once in a while.
Of just like, yeah, good idea, I guess.
Yeah, we'll do that.
Yeah, I mean.
And then when everyone's like, this thing sucks,
we're just like, yeah, you know.
Yeah, let them have it.
Yeah, let them have it.
All right. There it is.
Yeah, sub- BITB.
We'll be listening to those messages
in just about 10, 15 minutes
after we do our pound for pound rankings.
Best pies though, Frankie, you determine the order.
I'm gonna determine the order.
Yeah, okay, that's what I was gonna say.
We are starting with Connor Brooks.
Oh, I'm going first this time.
Then we are going to Frank. And we'll have Eric finish it off. All right,'m going first this time. Then we are going to, Frank.
And we'll have Eric finish it off.
All right.
All right, sounds good.
I will lead us off.
Number five, the pecan pie from Pies and Tho-
Just kidding, just kidding.
Number five is actually one that we didn't have at all
during our tour.
Tart, sweet.
Oh, I know where we're going.
A beautiful summertime pie.
Elite springtime dessert.
Great by the water.
Great after maybe some seafood.
Great with some wine.
Key lime pie.
Yeah.
I absolutely love it.
Creamy.
Oh, yeah.
Sign me up with the graham cracker crust.
All day.
Give me the pie.
All right.
Number four.
A little salty, sweet, crumble, crumble some reeses on top.
Oh.
Peanut butter pie.
Oh!
Oh, it's sucking great.
When it's made well, you maybe get a little base layer
of chocolate on top.
You put the peanut butter
and then you crumble some reeses on top.
Oh wow.
Woo!
Divine, divine.
Love that.
It is unbelievable.
Number three, loved it in the video for a reason.
Love it in real life.
My number one fruit pie, blueberry pie.
Love it, man.
Bake it up, put it with some ice cream.
Just the color, the richness, the blueberries get so sweet.
I am such a huge fan of blueberry pie.
Elite fruit, even more elite when you bake it
and put it in a crust.
Number two, creamy. Okay, there it is. Oreo pie. Elite fruit, even more elite when you bake it and put it in a crust. Number two, creamy.
Okay, there it is.
Oreo pie, creamy, chocolatey.
When we did our duos pound for pound list,
I almost did cookies and cream as mine.
Oreo pie, dude.
Oh my goodness.
Look at that.
It's like, if you even had the ones from Burger King,
like the Hershey's Oreo Pie, whatever it was,
elite, elite, elite, milkshake, cookies and cream,
ice cream, Oreo, I'm down, Oreo, one of the best flavors.
Chocolate cookies, filling, you like those.
It's as good as it gets.
Number one for me though.
Oh yeah, what's number one?
Gooey, crunchy, little sweet, little salty,
staple, pecan pie. Pe sweet, little salty, staple.
Pecan pie.
Love it.
Wow.
Love it.
You love it.
Oh, I love it.
Pecan, yeah, pecan.
Amazing.
They got pecan pie in this one.
Actually, what's the actual line?
Pecan pie.
No, that wasn't the real line.
I know it.
We've just heard Ariel say that so many times.
Yeah, he's like, what did you say?
Dan got no pecan pie or something like that.
Yeah, it was something,
because they don't have pecan pie in cats.
Yeah.
Pecan pie in this motherfucking sheep.
That's not actually what it was though.
He says something that we have misconstrued it now.
The quote is not correct.
Well, not we, I mean, Ariel,
and then we're just echoing Ariel.
It's really just Ariel.
Not surprising based on your tour
and you loving the pecan pie so much.
Love it, like it's great at Thanksgiving,
it's great in the summer, it's great whenever.
That's a strong list.
So there was a point in the day where you're like, man, I think I'm actually a big fan of pecan pie
Yeah, you you pecan or pecan Frank? I'm pecan as we address. I'm pecan. Oh, yeah
Technically phonetically it's pecan. I get that but it's pecan. Everyone's like you're from the south. You gotta say pecan
I'm like no, that's that's why you look. Oh, that's a southern. That's like what they claim. Yeah, okay?
He came I guess call me call me southern Rick all right. You're up, Frankie
Yeah, I'm ready
Just gonna gloss over that one so I'm around
That's pie
But pie said something and then we know sold it and then I said I didn't even hear what you said
Oh, and now he won't repeat it said it's why this alright Why is there a pie symbol?
Instead of it celebrating UFC 314
Yes, I felt like it had to have been specific to the number not not just the
Yeah, the pie alright. Let's say it's this is a number foods
Circular foods for me to show pie because again again, the ratio of circumference and the diameter
always equals pie.
What's that?
Go ahead.
Pie is not a circle.
It's not favorite circles.
It's favorite pie.
So literally, when you're celebrating pie day,
you're not just eating pies.
It's pizza.
You could do anything.
We chose, or you guys chose, to just do foodie.
I guess you could do a chicken pot.
You could do a pizza.
So can I get on with my list?
Go ahead, please.
So starting with number five, a little quesadilla.
All right, Jesus.
Quesadilla.
Gotta take the flour tortilla, traditionally,
saute up some actual vegetables.
I prefer peppers and onions.
Little bit of shredded cheese, mozzarella, some Monterey Jack maybe some chicken
grilling on both sides
Eat some of that guacamole so yeah, man. We know about kids. He's just late on
Mexican food less you counting this is number four saying you want to make a dough
Yeah, throw it up in the air catch it all right pizza pizza
All right Throw it up in the air, catch it. Alright, pizza's... Make yourself a pizza. Alright, alright, acceptable.
You gotta stick some marinara on that, and then right when you think you've put enough
marinara, put some more on there.
Mozzarella, finish it off with some arugula.
Best pizza ever.
Then, if you're like, hey, it's morning time and I wish that I could have a pie, well you
can, in the form of a quiche.
Alright, I'll allow quiche.
Yeah, so you start usually with a pie crust as you
guys would know it. And you whip up some eggs, make sure there's onion in the eggs, maybe
some herbs, some chopped up bacon or sausage, you choose, but I'll be eating that quiche.
Number two we go to El Salvador, we're going to enjoy us some pupusas. Hey what is this?
Corn, corn meal, stuff it with whatever you want. I don't care. Pork usually for me.
Pickled cabbage. A little bit of red sauce on top. Oh, it's delicious.
Just looking at this, I know what I'm having for dinner.
Lasagna soup.
Are these necessarily round though?
It's absolutely round. Yeah.
They are? They looked more ovular if I'm being honest.
Okay, if you invite me over for pupusas and you're giving me squared pupusas, I'm leaving.
No, certainly not squared, but I don't know if the diameter here would actually be 3.14.
Oh, do you want to measure it?
Or what is it, the radius? The second? What is it?
You don't even need to, just enjoy.
I'm not sure it would be because one of those looks quite ovular as opposed to perfectly round.
Enjoy your humble pie if you're done eating your Oreo and peanut butter pie, whatever the fuck that is.
Alright, coming in at number one
He said do you actually okay keep going?
Hold on to your shit, it's because my number one
About to be is a shrimp cock
If you're gonna put this thing in front of me
Don't just pile the shrimp one after the other don't even give me a bowl of shrimp
Oh, give me a platter with the shrimp hold on
circled around
Whatever you want in the middle probably this is the dumbest list you've ever created. This is heinous
The somehow shrimp cocktail ended up is your number one pie. You know what?
Lasagna soup almost made it because it comes in a round bowl, but the bowl is the round part not the shrimp cocktail
Yeah, but I'm enjoying it out of a bowl again
I need to see I can be enjoyed out of a bowl cocktail out of a rectangular on his soup off a plate
But we've seen you eat it out of non round object you have shrimp cocktail off of a plate I
Told you that in confidence all right moving on to Rick that was an
Frank we're just gonna there Ariel is gonna come back and be like I love what Frank did
So funny and cool meanwhile, we're like this guy this fucking all right, that's pies shrimp cocktail and pupusa
Pusa
I almost respect I respect the forcing of it in but I just forced
Force you go look up shrimp cocktail. They're all around. It's a bowl No, they are not round the bowl is right the golden ratio from a shrimp say no this is crazy all right
We're gonna get this back on track. We're gonna actually go to pies here. Oh wow, I didn't realize that Jordan and Josh
had done pies for us and then the symbol for him.
That's why I asked.
I immediately noticed it.
I was like, what's going on here?
It's UFC 3149 UFC desserts.
Right.
Yeah.
All right, so we're doing pies.
Number one, I don't think you can go wrong here.
This is the classic.
This is the staple. This is the staple.
This is the one that we all eat, consume, enjoy.
Yep.
It's apple pie.
Yeah.
I feel like the baseline for an apple pie is pretty high.
That's kind of a tough looking one.
No, I like this one though, because I
like a little bit of texture to the crust.
And also, I like big chunks in the apple.
Like I don't like those like filling, like kind
of like gooey ones.
I like some real, like I like some cinnamon,
some sugar, really get that chopped up apple
in there.
Apple pie can't go wrong.
Really can't go wrong.
Apple pie.
I feel like the baseline is pretty high.
Number four, we're going sideways for a second
here.
We're going a little bit off the beaten path where we're going to a meat pie we're going to
the Jamaican beef patty okay all right so we did go off the beaten path a little
bit Jamaican beef patty tremendous my favorite meat pie I know you can
certainly go Shepherd you can even what was it Papusa you could go to there's
there's many different meat patties that you could potentially go to.
Sorry, meat pies that you could go to. For me, the Jamaican beef patty is my favorite.
It is the best one. I love it. Especially if it's a little bit spicy.
The flaky crust, delicious. Shout out to the Jamaican beef patty.
We're going to go back. We're going to go back traditional now.
Mine number three. Appeared on your list.
Little sweet, little tart. When done three appeared on your list.
Little sweet, little tart. When done right, hard to top.
Give me that key lime pie. Hit me with that key lime pie.
It is just-
It's good shit.
I love it. And you know, when we were at the Brazilian
Churrascaria, they said, they said lime.
I said, let me get that.
Turned out probably was lemon. Key lime pie. Delicious.
I love, I love the tartness of the key lime pie.
Sometimes like people lean too much into the tartness.
Yeah, it doesn't need to be that tart.
It doesn't need to be too tart.
Nice combo of tartness and creaminess.
That's exactly right.
Give me good texture on that key lime pie.
And we're talking.
Number two, we're going crack pie.
Oh, okay.
We're going crack pie.
Respect.
And so most of these pies are a little bit fluffier.
What I love about the crack pie is the density.
Oh yeah.
You get real, you get thick, chewy, gooey.
It's not that like flaky.
You really gotta bite into this thing.
If you haven't had one,
Milk Bar famously kind of popularized it. It existed before that but they popularized it and it's absolutely incredible
I think it's actually called the milk bar pie now
Maybe crack was too problematic
But I will always know it and many will always know it as the crack pie and then my number one actually appeared on another
list as well
Is that peanut butter pie give me that butter pie? boy, when I saw it come up on yours,
I was like, this man knows ball.
And knows ball.
This man knows ball.
Another one that's like, it's not as like airy
as the others, right?
Cause you're going with like,
like cream cheese, peanut butter.
Hopefully you get a little layer of chocolate on there.
You get a dark, you get a chocolate crust too.
And that like really sucks it off.
You get that nice whipped cream on top.
You drizzle the chocolate and the
peanut butter sauce on top.
This sets the whole thing off.
Um, I, uh, my wife, Holly, um, looked up
one of the, like on the back of a, of a
package of Philadelphia cream cheese,
they had a recipe for a no bake peanut
butter pie.
She made it instantly. My favorite dessert I've ever had. I'm there peanut butter pie
Can't do better than that
Other than maybe shrimp cocktail takes show whip one up for the watch party
Oh, yeah, I could ask her to it's been a while
I used to ask for it every year on my birthday, but you know we got three kids now
It's getting yeah, it's it's usd3
But you're you're welcome to make it.
Actually, if On Air Jordan ever sees this video,
maybe you can request it from him
like you've done in the past.
Oh, he'll never see it.
He'll never see it.
He's busy trying to figure out how to make lasagna soup.
Yeah, he's on that now.
All right, I feel like me and Rick had solid lists, Frank.
I mean, it's just an insane visual there.
Do have to say, I'm proud of the fact that,
you know, all five of mine have the word pie in it,
but, you know, that's neither here nor there.
I mean- Good job, bud.
You wouldn't question the validity of a Jamaican-
No, no, no, no, no.
I respect it, I respect it.
The quesadilla was kind of crazy.
No, the quesadilla was not.
All right, time to debut, for the first time ever,
the Boys in the Back Hotline.
Yes.
We got some voicemails, and this is how we're gonna answer your questions
Can we put that number up one time so people know how to five sup BITB?
Well, just to be clear. This is a voicemail line. We are not answering calls right now
There's gonna be a phone number on the screen at some point when it goes up
Shout out to the watch party. We'll be doing that on Saturday
When that goes up do not call it thinking watch party, we'll be doing that on Saturday. Just build a suspense. When that goes up, do not call it thinking
that you're gonna talk to us right now.
This is for leaving voicemails,
you're gonna leave us voicemails throughout the week
and we'll listen to them.
We're not texting the number.
And do not text the number.
We can't text.
Cut-off's gonna be like 11, 10 a.m. on Thursday mornings.
But yeah, I mean we worked hard,
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EITB super important
Who are you?
When you call the first thing you should be saying is your name. We got a lot of Orlando first time long time
That's it. We want to know who we're talking about
We want you to get credit for making that call
Yeah, if it's just random jabroni how we might skip it
Oh, and the guy who keeps calling it is breathing into the phone for 20 minutes like don't don't do that actually try real calls
I think that was that I think it was
Got it boys mail. Oh is that the drop. That's the job. I like that. I like that
So we're gonna start off with this one. Okay. Hey guys, this is Thomas
from Jackson Heights, Queens, New York. Just wanted to ask if you guys were in the UFC and
headlining a pay-per-view, what would be your walkout songs and what will be your nickname. Oh. Thank you guys for the opportunity.
Love y'all.
Boys in the back.
Hey, shout out Thomas, Queens.
Love you too bro. Queens boy.
Walkout song for me is Heat by 50 Cent.
I've always said that.
I don't go many men.
I feel like Alessandro Pantoja has taken that
and then too many people have tried to recreate that.
Heat by 50 Cent, not feet by 50 cent.
Feet by 50 cent.
Nickname, I don't know.
It's tough.
You have to be given a nickname.
That's why I feel like I would go no nickname
until somebody gives me a nickname.
So if I don't get a nickname, I'm going no nickname.
Song, I never can figure this one out,
I never land on anything, I just know I would go very calm.
I would not do the amp up, I would do the chill vibes.
I don't know what the song would be,
but it would be very chill.
Frankie?
Hmm.
Yeah, I got no comment on this one.
Has anybody ever walked out to classical?
Yeah, for sure someone someone has had to
like I know uh
Akiyama used to walk out to the to the
What about like I'm talking like Beethoven, you know, I'm talking like my overture of 1812 exactly that's what I'm talking
I would be pretty good
Someone at the KFC did a high along which is like That's what I'm talking. I would be pretty good I like Patty's one Yeah, Patty's is great
Someone at BKFC did a high long
Which is like Mongolian, not Mongolian
It's like vocal singing which is great but then he got his ass beat
So it was so cool
Alright next up
Shout out Thomas
Hey boys in the back
This is Jimmer
Big fan of Frank, GC
I could do without Rick, but
what the fuck?
Wow.
Conversation for another day.
No, let's have it now.
Why do people seem to think that Marabda Valesvili
dominated Sugar Tom Alley?
When the fight was 48-47 on two of the judges scorecard
and the most damaging strike landed in the fight.
All right, cut this guy off.
Cut this idiot off.
I don't wanna hear the end of this.
Cut this guy off.
This guy clearly has horrible taste.
Well, I mean, he just like, you know,
he's a fan of me and me and Frank.
But if you don't ride with all of us,
you ride with none of us.
This guy's a schmuck.
I actually think that it was,
I scored at 49, 46, and it just felt like other than the one shot
to the stomach, which obviously, I don't know,
rocked, wobbled is the word, but it never felt
like Sean O'Malley was really in, I mean,
Marabdou De Valashevili was in any sort of danger.
He was just, it was one way traffic,
like he was able to implement the game plan
that he came to.
I do think that the second fight,
Sean O'Malley
has a chance at, I'm looking forward to it.
Why people say like dominate,
I think he clearly won the fight,
and I think the fact that Sean O'Malley came out afterward
and was like, it was actually pretty close.
Actually, if you rewatch it this way, like he won,
I think that put some people off.
I don't think it, maybe not dominate,
if you want to use that word,
then maybe that would be the incorrect word,
but to GC's point, it did not feel like Sean O'Malley
had control of that fight at any point,
nor was Mourav de Valashvili in any danger.
Even in the moment where he got hurt with a body shot,
like that fight was a foregone conclusion at that point.
So yeah, this guy just doesn't know ball.
I love the, you're coming out hot, coming out swinging.
Yep. Swinging at the wrong targets.
What's up boys in the back? Iron Michael Chambers. Just wanted to call a few things off top.
Shout out Mike.
I was on the show but needed to make my debut on the boys in the back and
was gonna get there by any means necessary. Georgia Connor, Connor Burks,
thank you for the support. You know what's gonna happen this weekend. And to the so-called
New York Rick, don't put money on that. You're gonna lose big time. I'm picking you, Mike.
I don't appreciate the doubt. I don't want to see you lose money either,
okay?
I love your show.
We can agree to disagree.
And that's that.
I'm picking you, Mike.
Last but not least.
Not least.
Frank.
Frankie?
The mysterious one.
Grand Diddy.
Grand Pappy.
Add me back on Xbox, man.
I'm trying to get you to play Monster Hunter.
I'm trying to get you to play Elden Ring.
I'm trying to collaborate on a strategy to blast through Kingdom Come Deliverance 2.
I see you, Mike.
You're the heartbeat of the show, man.
Don't let them get you down.
Don't let them tell you that you couldn't be a walk-on kid
Exciting media personality and MMA and with that I will see you at the top
Our first our first call from a celebrity guest shot up Michael
Michael Chandler playing was a dragon something
What was the name of the game that monster monster hunter those craves the peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches those are tremendous can't get enough of those
shots iron Mike man wants to play my bet is a with Frankie let's go see you at
the top see you at the top I'm I picked Michael I'm picking you Mike what else What else we got? What is up boys in the back?
This is Ryan Maddux. I was going to leave a super chat yesterday
regarding, I don't know if you guys saw it, LeBron's
new Barbie doll he just got. And he's wearing a hat
and I can't help but notice the hat looks like it has the
uncrowned logo on it. Yeah, it does. Is this a little shout out to uncrowned?
Maybe Ariel Hwani, the A.H.O. and maybe just boys in the back.
I mean, we just thought with KD shouting out bottom of the basement.
Oh my God.
NBA Takeover, Collab, NBA X, Uncrowned, let me know.
Shout out.
That's an incredible point by you.
We noticed the same thing.
We were like, damn, he's wearing an Uncrowned hat.
If you haven't seen it, go look at the Ken Bassiter,
LeBron Barbie doll.
By the way, LeBarbie was right there, right?
LeBarbie's right there. Labarbie. Shout out.
Yeah, shout out.
Supporting Uncrowned.
I mean, we're NBA certified.
KD knows.
LeBron knows.
KD, LeBron knows.
The King knows about the Uncrowned Kings.
I mean, shout out to LeBron.
And Mattel for Labarbie.
Hello, gentlemen.
I'm Luke from Sydney, Australia.
Shout out to Sydney.
The C-Pain is called the CFC 312.
I have a very important question that I need some local New York advice from.
Okay, here we go.
I'm going to be having a layover flight in New York later this year and I will have upwards
of three to four hours on the ground in New York.
What is the one food spot I must hit?
I've been looking around, they've got the classics, Joe's, Kat's, I don't know,
I want you guys to take it, the local experts, please help someone out. This one's easy. Okay,
what do you say Frank? Wegmans. Shut up, shut up, get your square plated shrimp cocktail from there.
Kat's is not a bad shout, like if you go and you do it properly, get the slaw on there, get the cheese on there as well,
get the mustard, make it moist and go enjoy.
Like that is an authentic New York experience
and it's not going to let you down.
Is it the best restaurant in the city?
No.
Here's my problem.
He only has four hours.
Yeah.
And he has to get back to the airport.
He's not waiting that line. You've got to wait in that line. I don't he has to get back to the airport. He's not waiting that line.
You've got to wait in that line.
I don't think he can even get to the city.
I think you got to go somewhere in Queens.
Um, so my recommendation is actually go to
Flushing in Queens, cause if you're flying
into LaGuardia, you should be near it.
Actually, if you fly to LaGuardia, you're
going to be right near Flushing.
And I would say go to Flushing, eat a few different Asian cuisines. There's some good Shanghainese food there. There's some good Malaysian food there, some really good
Malaysian food. If you hear this and that sounds appealing to you, shoot me an email.
It's in my ex bio and I'll give you some actual names of places. But my thought on the logistics, on the planning,
is I don't think you have time to go into the city.
Because you're gonna have to go back through security.
You have to get back through security.
There's all this time, I don't think you're gonna have time.
You can eat in Queens, where these two airports are,
it is not Long Island, Connor.
You can eat in Queens in that time,
and so I would say do a nice little flushing food tour.
You can get a few in in like two hours and then get back to the airport relatively
quickly. Katz, I just don't think you're gonna have time to wait in the line.
It's a great call by you. It's a great call by you. Alright Frankie, what else?
What's up, boss in the basement? First time long time. Shout out. First time long time. I'm super cheesy right here. How many numbers of pi can you recite off top of dome?
Thanks.
Fuck, 3.1459?
Is that right? I don't know.
I can only go 3.14, Frank.
3.14, that's where, that's where it stops.
Wait, bullshit.
Are you serious? Absolutely.
You're this big, you're the pi guy
and you can only go to 3.14?
You're right. I like 22 over 7
3.14 159 265 35 8 9 7 9 3 2 3 8 4 6 2
6 4 3 3 8 3 2 7 9 5 0 2 8 8 4 1 9 7 good job it
There it is Frank. You're messing around though, right? Shout out
Good job, man. There it is.
Frank, you're messing around though, right?
Shout out.
Oh Paul, full of may here and I just pray to God GC is wearing a Vogue t-shirt this weekend
because of the V-Hiz and we rolling!
Yeah!
The t-shirt curse is back!
Diego Lopez time and new.
He wanted you to wear it because he's on Diego.
Also, shout out to the to the Burt
Watson reference though. We rolling. Shout out. Take it to the bank. Diego Lopez moneyline t-shirt
curses. T-shirt curse is back. Boys in the back what is up? Hey fight feast UFC Des Moines.
Hey fight feast UFC Des Moines hmm leave out the corn it's tired okay it's played out okay okay move on from it my suggestion come to the Airbnb Airbnb
with me and the boys Jesus I'll be there I'll throw on some good old American
burgers if you gotta have some corn I'll throw it on the grill too.
But he's going to make us burgers and corn at the Airbnb.
I'll grill you up some burgers.
There's your fight piece.
Sounds like getting kidnapped.
Yeah.
Um, we'll see you at the arena, man.
We'll see you at the arena.
Yeah.
Appreciate the invite.
I thought he was about to drop like, you got to go to this.
He was like, going to be deep in the Des Moines knowledge.
Uh, yeah.
Fucking burgers at the Airbnb.
I'm out.
He basically said the best food in Des Moines is him cooking burgers at the Airbnb. I'm out. He basically said the best food in Des Moines
is him cooking burgers at the Airbnb.
He still offered some corn if you want.
We do appreciate the invite,
but we're gonna have to actually like try
to find some establishments, but thank you.
Thank you very much.
Oh, what an intern, mate.
All right, this is Marty.
I'm calling from Melbourne's Tryouts.
Fuck yeah, Marty.
I just wanted to give my boy Volk a shout out.
Shout out.
Ah, written for him this weekend.
Love the show boys, killing it.
Shout out Marty, shout out to Melbourne too.
Shout out.
Shout out to the voicemails.
Thank you all for calling and leaving them.
That's all we had for today.
Oh, that was everything.
Yep.
Okay, alright, we got any super chats?
Let's do it.
Remember, next week, 415 sub BITB,
which translates to,
nyeh-deh-deh-deh-deh-deh-deh,
415-787-2482.
Okay, one important note,
after having heard some of these now,
one, keep it kind of short,
like not too short, if you're cooking, you're
cooking. But like the Mike Chandler guy, right? Mike Chandler guy was great. Like you could,
you could let that roll a little bit. You mean Mike Chandler. Oh, sorry. That was Mike. That was
Mike. Like we're not going to cut off Mike Chandler, but if you're, you know, just going to drop 30
seconds, don't ramble. Just give us a good 30 seconds. Keep it strong. Uh, say your name and yeah, we'll, we and yeah we'll answer some of these best ones if they're questions or just play
them out if they're not so shout out to you guys thank you for everybody who
already called in and call us for next week
24 inch dubs that we should get a Fudd Ruckers in Iowa that's an amazing place
I was gonna say go to McDonald's I do lovegers. So shout out you could go to CC's pizza after right John Cross writes in
Raposa will win via China Terrence
Jesus Christ Frank man, you can't read bro. This is becoming an issue. I agree
Why is it not capital? What was the one yesterday?
There was a great one yesterday, no
There's a great one Corbin writes in I'd love to hear the boys in the back intro to
Magic the gathering also, huh?
Do we live in a theoretical world whereby the end of the year JDM lands a lucky KO and beats pound-for-pound Islam?
So he's saying like if it's if JDM beat below and then Islam moved up to 170 to try and get the belt
and then JDM KO'd him, that would be a male fighter
of the year right there I'd say,
winning the belt and then KO'ing Islam Makasshah
pound for pound number one in the world, that'll do it.
We will see what that happens in terms of
the intro to Magic the Gathering,
like how we got into Magic the Gathering,
because I am not into Magic the Gathering.
I don't know what he means by the intro to it, but like yeah, I'm down.
I mean, maybe Frank can come up with something.
Yesterday was Boner, Frank.
Remember when you called Stefan Boner Boner?
Is it not Boner?
No.
I started reading challenge.
I had a red deck and a black deck.
It was a lot of fun.
That was my intro.
Dragons are the new set that just came out yesterday and it is it is powerful
I'm enjoying it quite a bit shout out to all my MTG arena players out there shout
out Benny Avina writes it's damn shame GFL didn't protect his neck yeah oh
Jesus if if GFL can't protect my neck then who can
sleet oh comes in hot what's over and under amount of fouls by Chandler one and a I'll take the under
I don't think it's gonna be like
No points taken though. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so
Michael Chandler has gotten this like dirty fighter reputation. I don't know is he I guess he I guess he kind of like
If you're not cheating you're not trying that's what he needs to do to make himself a winner. See you at the top at the top
You're not trying that's what he needs to do to make himself a winner. See you at the top at the top
Gentlemen RC the boys in the back are like the old make comfort Wow thanks gentlemen or sir just good for the soul
Thanks to everyone involved in the show Shut out man. I appreciate that that was incredibly nice very gentlemanly move thank you for that comforting like a
Nice shrimp like a shrimp cocktail create Mike Mike is the winner of Patty Mike
fighting for a chancy to welcome Ilya to the top of 155.
To welcome me Ilya to the top of 115.
Frank botches the ones that are written right
and then this one he got interpreted.
Maybe, maybe. Patty wins.
Him versus Ilya is a massive fight.
But is Ilya Deporia moving up to 155 to fight Patty?
No.
Look at the posture here.
We're really schlumping two hours in.
I don't think that's the next one.
Would I be surprised if it happens at some point?
No.
But it just feels like Ilya's next fight is going to
if it's not Islam it will be the fight that gets him into position to fight
Islam and I don't think that's Patti or Chandler to be honest yeah
DeepStateTV sends it $10 to save Jim Miller by knockout plus $1400. Yeah $14?
Bomb emoticon. That's that's that's tasty deep state that is certainly tasty
Achilles jr. Right Rick is the best great show guys. Yeah, shut up the right man five likes on that bad boy, too
what's crazy is uh
Killers was what was my mortal enemy over at MMA fighting so now he's changed his tune. Oh, yeah
I'm skeptical. Maybe there's another one coming later that hates on me
Changes to know yeah, I'm skeptical. Maybe there's another one coming later that hates on me
Sean plant rights shout out to choppers yummy yummy and knows what's up. Yeah, shut the chopper What is the top today? Oh shut up?
type of
Thing you put cheese on top some people put beef like you guys would love okay someday. I
Love it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Is it a pie?
Is it round?
Technically.
Yes.
All right, it's a pie.
Not a pie.
Coming in, shout out Frank.
Nobody else.
I think that's it.
Wow, let's go five likes on that one as well.
Be Sandu three.
All right, we're in a like off here on the shout out
to Rick and shout out to Frank.
Akilah Sr. writes back in lemon, apple, pecan, pumpkin.
Coconut cream.
Is that a lemon meringue?
Because if so, eh.
Coconut cream, shout out.
Apple's good.
Yeah, pumpkin almost made the list, but ended up not.
Is a lemon bar a pie?
No. Nah.
I mean, it's brown?
Nah, it's like a lemon brown.
To me, but it feels like it's just a chopped pie.
It feels like it's a pie. It's not feels like it's up just a chop It's not yeah
Mr.. Shrimp cocktail is not answering over done cheddar cheese on apple pie absolutely no yeah wow big thing in the Midwest
I'm not a fan never even heard of that what like melted or you just sprinkle no no no like a quick confection
slices
Cheddar cheese really yeah, holy shit. I've never had a peanut butter pie. Dude.
Honestly, I haven't. I should try that. Crazy. Peanut butter pies are fucking incredible. You'll love it, Frank. The ceiling on that one's real high.
There's nothing to dislike about it. Yeah. I will have to get on it. Zach writes, y'all loved the
Austin. Yeah. GC, I'd love to get you my favorite Austin FC jersey. Oh.
Yeah, GC. I'd love to get you my favorite Austin FC Jersey
How would I go about getting it to you Rick?
You're gonna sweat right through the black shirt first round and the 512 is on me I know the five of us a reference to the Austin area code. Yeah
I went over area code. Yeah, I think we were talking about Austin
oh, yeah, we were saying we're gonna go to it was like one of the super
chatters or like the the um sub stacks was like how do we get you guys to
Austin or an event in Austin. Austin in my opinion has like one of the sickest
MLS logos that black and green is sick McConaughey on it with the Yeti logo
yeah you can send it to the un-crowned office. This is a light airy shirt don't
worry I'll be all right at all.
Yeah, if we go to Austin, there's plenty options
of what we could do out there.
If they do a Fight Night Austin, I feel like we gotta go.
Didn't they do one in December?
Did one recently.
Yeah, I would love to go back.
Actually, I've never been.
I would love to go to Austin.
I've been.
Austin's quite good.
And John Shin writes,
GC predictions for the UFC Atlanta Fight Night main event?
What is the main event?
We don't know.
Oh, we don't know.
It's not the Rose and...
Oh God, no, no, no, I hope not.
Might have to change my travel plans if so.
I don't know, I don't know.
No way Pyotr Yon's fighting there.
No.
It's gonna be like a top 10 matchup,
but in what weight class is the question?
Like a Caio Baraglio?
Caio Baraglio is not a terrible shout.
Versus who though?
Yeah, versus who?
John Strickland?
Is the question.
Featherweight, maybe like a Brian Ortega?
No, cause he's going to 55.
Yeah, imagine R. Allen fighting him.
Dan Hooker? In Atlanta?
These are in Atlanta? I don't know man
You throw random people in random places like they have a big like representative Volkov
I feel like an American at least though. No, yeah
zero gone
I have no idea. I can't wait to to find out who it's gonna be. Maybe that'll be worse on Strickland returns
Maybe against him. I'm down
Who is Sean Strickland's next fight who should he fight?
This was a who's a realistic I you know who you should fight you should fight Israel out of Sonia
But I don't know not so do you need me above Israel out of Sonia?
Robert Whitaker Robert Whitaker ain't about you have Whitaker versus Strickland. Yeah
Anything else Frankie? There is one more.
Okay.
Love Frank, but he might be responsible
for GC's slow building heel turn.
GC might be 2004 Triple H at six months,
hashtag CokeConnor.
I don't think it's gonna take six months.
Yeah, well, we almost might be.
You do another list like that,
and yeah, give me another shrimp cocktail.
And the GC.
We actually do have another one,
Andres Cabreras, 4.99 as well.
I'm just here to say thanks for the content,
you guys make the night shift easier.
Appreciate you, Andres, thanks for listening.
I know.
We appreciate it a lot,
hopefully you can get through those night shifts.
I've worked night shifts myself, my friend,
and they are not easy, they are not easy.
Notice no comments in the chat about me going,
no headphones, switching over to the old IFB here, like professional broadcaster felt like we were kind of thrown off with the giant earmuffs and the no earmuffs
You know feel like we needed to get to a little little playing field
Take a look at this phone number
There it is yeah, it's a call if you want to give us a call next week
We will be happy to listen to you and shout you
out, but that, that should just about do it, I feel.
UFC 3-4 preview, talked to a little PFL, talked to a little GFL.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace to a legend GFL.
UFC 3-4.
Masters going on.
I saw Morikawa shit the bed at the end of the round, had him top 20 round 1, that ain't gonna hit.
He was T1 at one point. Justin Rose your leader, shout out to the Brits out there.
Got anything on for NASCAR this weekend that you got?
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Maybe a little Denny Hamlin action.
Denny's been good to you.
Denny's been good to me, he's been good to Yahoo.
Christopher Bell at Bristol is nice. Maybe a little Chris Busher.
Chris Busher, top 10, definitely getting played.
Bubba Wallace, top 10.
Yeah, Corey Connors, he was my only round one leader.
Doesn't look like it's gonna hold,
but he's 400, not bad.
Enjoy the weekend, enjoy the fights.
Watch the crack tomorrow and watch us on Saturday.
Watch party 9.45 Eastern right here.
We'll see you then.
Later.