The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC 318 Post-Fight Show: Dustin Poirier calls it a career, Max Holloway wants Ilia Topuria, more from a massive weekend

Episode Date: July 20, 2025

Petesy Carroll and Chuck Mindenhall react to the aftermath of UFC 318, starting with Max Holloway’s impressive victory against Dustin Poirier (01:26).After paying tribute to Poirier (10:17), who called it a career, they move on to Paulo Costa’s return to form in his victory against Roman Kopylov (14:50), Daniel Rodriguez’s back-and-forth war with Kevin Holland (20:54), Patricio Pitbull’s much-needed victory over Dan Ige (23:58), and Michael Johnson’s huge upset victory over Daniel Zellhuber to open the main card (28:00), before looking back at the prelims (29:31).Then, they switch gears and recap action from around the combat sports world, starting with 46-year-old Manny Pacquiao earning a majority draw against Mario Barrios (33:16), and a pair of rematches, with Sebastian Fundora overwhelming Tim Tszyu (34:19) and Oleksandr Usyk leaving no doubt this time against Daniel Dubois (35:54).Finally, they move to PFL Africa, with Dakota Ditcheva’s dominant win over Sumiko Inaba (44:37) and Costello van Steenis’ comeback against Johnny Eblen (49:15), before offering their closing thoughts. (52:52) 

Welcome everybody, this is the post fight show. I am PZ Carol. Uncrowned Saturday is in the books and my God, it was a memorable one. We've just bid farewell to Dustin the Diamond Poirier, Max Holloway victorious in the UFC 318 main event. Manny Pacquiao very nearly became a world champion again at 46 years of age just shortly before this. We also had a wild dethroning of Johnny Eblen in Cape Town. Alexander Rusic becoming an undisputed heavyweight champion for the second time in his career in Wembley. We also had Bam Rodriguez. We also had KSW 108. It was a massive, massive night. As I said at the start, I am Peezy Carroll. Unfortunately, our fearless leader, Ariel Hawani is not with us tonight. I'm going to have to get through these intros and everything else, uh, without him, uh,

fingers and toes crossed. I think I'll do an okay job. I do however have the great Chuck Mendenhall with me. Chuck Mendenhall, what a night of multi-screen tasking, my friend. Now that was great. And you know what? It was like, we got a good payoff, right? Like you're never sure what's going to happen with the UFC,

even though they were all decisions, I felt like we got what we were looking for in that card. And I knew I had a very strong hunch that Max Holloway going into that situation would not disappoint, you know, the fans in terms of giving everybody what they wanted from Dustin Poirier. So that was a, that was a big fight and a lot of fun, man. Yeah, absolutely. And look, here's the scorecards. We have on our Jordan here doing this wonderful work for us.

I believe that it's 49-46 on two cards and 48-47 on Derek Cleary's. I don't think anyone would have had any doubt that Holloway won this fight, but it was tremendous. It was absolutely manic. I mean, the guys knocking each other down in the second round. Oh, yeah? That second round was crazy, dude. It was absolutely manic. I mean, the guys knocking each other down the second round. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I was always crazy. It was crazy. Yeah. It really, really was. The whole fight was insane. Um, as I said, even though I feel Holloway, uh, clearly won the fight in my opinion, Poirier gave everything.

Like it was a beautiful way for him to go out on his shield as he always has joke. Yeah. You know what's great about it man is sometimes you get, especially in a situation like this, these guys faced off. What was a 13 years ago? They fought again like six, seven years later. They fight again six years after that you hit diminishing returns just by the nature of the thing, the nature of the beast, uh, the game kind of chews them up. This was strange because it was like the distillation of all the vintage whatever you whatever makes these guys who they are that dog inside of them and everything. It all came to light in this and it was that's sort of a

brilliant thing isn't it like when you get two guys and basically you're seeing it like both guys get dropped in that second round. You're thinking this could be it one way or this could be at the other. This is what makes great fights. This is what makes great rounds and yet they start the third round and they both look like nothing had happened. They just straight out each other and I'm like man this is this is what makes both these guys who they are. It just I mean it's just tremendous man. You just don't get too many guys who've been in the fight game and face like, what is it

like 60 plus fights. These guys have had in the UFC combined and to have that kind of willingness and like that kind of, you know, I just, that dog still alive in them to go out there and perform like that, man. So they delivered on every level. I think. No, I couldn't have said it better myself, Chuck. And really, really beautiful scenes

here still going on now as I'm speaking, I'm looking at Dustin Poirier talking to the Korean zombie on the broadcast, but I think UFC should be commended for the way they handle this. You know, obviously Holloway wins. He played his part as well. Just stepping out of the way quickly reminding us all that he has that history with Ilya Toporya, which we might talk about in a few minutes, but primarily for the moment the moment just on Porier, you know, Holloway hands over the moment, Cormier has a great moment in the cage, then they go to a video, a kind of a feature they've put together going through his whole career and then back to Porier who has then become emotional.

You see all the people around him, he gets to take off the gloves and share the moment with the people he loves. I mean, pretty solid way to do it as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, you know, I'm in the hot seat here. I have to make these judgments very quickly, but felt pretty good to me. Joke, you're out on a limb there and I can't follow you on that. No, I'm kidding. That was, uh, I mean, we just don't see too many of those, right? Like I remember, what was it? The Robbie Lawler one was, um, they kind of had

something special planned plan but it wasn't like they went to I don't know where they could they wasn't like they went to Florida or to bet and door for something that said hey Robbie this event's all about you here's your package at the end here so that this was very unique and I thought it really showcased you know the UFC's ultimate respect and care for what Dustin Poirier is brought to the game and to them you you know, uh, was it 32 fights, I think total and just, um,

really put on in most of those fights, man, it's hard to pick out the duds. And so I think that they played a really nice tribute to him, man. And I said this to you guys before I was talking to you and Ben, as we went in, I just don't think the guy changed over the course of his career. I think he's the exact same guy. Obviously, like he became a family man, his philanthropic work, like you know, he did all that stuff. He's in the hall of fame for like, you'd already for doing that, the charity work, like all the stuff he's been doing, just a very good guy for an ambassador of the sport, everything that he's done. I thought it was a very nice

tribute man. Absolutely. He is a legend in the sport. a doubt. And I was listening to some of the tributes and Paddy Pym put a very good, just one word legend. Like the, and I think it was Chael P who said, with top 10 stars in the sport, I'm not very good at judging this, but in terms of like an icon and a guy really going out and you don't feel horrible about it. I remember we're speaking about this song, which with the likes of Ferguson and BJ Penn back in the day, right? We used to say like, it's getting harder and harder to watch these guys fight.

These guys are legends. And we were beginning to wonder if we were hitting this stage of Porier when he fought Benoit Sandinee and he quickly reminded us, shut up boys. You know, I'm not quite ready to go yet. I was the biggest one. I remember telling you like, this is my lock. You know, Sandinee is going to win this fight. This is the lock.

Remember that? Like we thought he was done. They were push-brooming him right out, man. Yeah. Like I picked Benoit Sandinee as my breakout fighter of the year just before that fight. Like, I mean, the levels that we were disregarding for is absolutely criminal. But I mean, that's, I guess, my overall point. Like I'm watching him there in a war tonight, but I'm not feeling bad. I'm not going, Oh no, like I know this guy is still in his full faculties as much as we see anyone walk

out of sport. And it was an overall good feeling being able to see him in there for 25 minutes and fight. Yeah. And I mean, we talked about this before. Um, sometimes the UFC will book these guys into fights and maybe that was, you know, that, uh, BDS, BDS fight, like where they book them into fights where they're saying here's, we're going to get this younger, um, you know, up and coming guy over and he's going to take your juice and he, where the baton passes on, they, if they tried that with Dustin it just didn't work. So they did the right thing here and putting him

against Max even though Max is still very viable obviously but it was still a fight where there was enough parody there and enough compelling backstory where you're like this didn't look like it is that you didn't have to watch your fingers. You know what I mean. And I think that's you know I mean it was just it. That's why it feels good. I think to get a fight like that and Dustin's walking away like he's kissing his family still in his fact, he's not stuttering. Um, nothing like that. You know what I mean? I feel like he's just,

he's made a level headed decision about his career, knowing that it's too long of a climb back to a title and what's left for him and all that stuff. And he's acting on it and we just don't see too many. This is as close to a graceful out as you get a hometown event even though you lose you had a great showing I think that you the love was clear all week for how much everybody within not just Louisiana but the fight world loves this guy like you can't go out on a better note right other than getting the victory there you just can't it doesn't get better than that. I'm like crazy.

Your little Wayne didn't wrap it all. Like he just kind of, I didn't like there like, like a carnival, like kind of so he wrapped up. He did rap once he wrapped the belt around max Holloway's wings. That's what he, that was the only time I saw him rap. Right. So this are six 30 in the morning and you're hitting me with rapping. Come on, Chug. Jesus Christ.

Oh man, sorry. That was fantastic, fantastic, fantastic. I would have liked to see him with a bit of a low vocal. I know the UFC aren't into changing up the production though, right? They're always like, hang on a second. You're a Grammy-winning artist? Absolutely not, mate. We have the audio, we'll play the song. You'll smile and nod your head. Uh, good to have him involved. Um, that's the one thing they could have done better. They could have

seen that, you know, call me a nitpicker. You know what I mean? This is what I do. Um, tell me Holloway looked amazing, right? Like at 55, like he looks like a different species all of a sudden. Like he is, he is a thick, tall, athletic, like a beast of a man at 155. And I know. You tell me where's, okay. So they, a guy usually like he fights, say 145 goes to 155. What's the thing? Well, he's going to lose something, right? He's going to lose something in that translation. Maybe, um, you know, sometimes we talk about power. Will they have the, will they have power at this or will they lose speed? You know, or whatever it is, you tell me, man, does he, to me, he looks

equally fast and with more power. Yeah. Like, no, he looks incredible. He looks like he should have been fighting here for a very long time. And I think that, I think the biggest indication to this Chuck is that if he, if he was trying to sell us an Ilya Toporia fight and he had that first fight with Toporia and you know, he was just going through the motion since then. I don't think we'd all be into it.

It's just how brilliant he seems to look at 55 that has me in my head. Not saying it needs to be next or it needs to jump the queue it's a complicated situation it's a bit of a balancing act but if they wanted to make that fight I would not be disgusted at all but no not at all that was the whole point right I said this in a piece I wrote I was like you know he's going into a thankless situation not only is he being asked to go in there and fight a guy that he's faced twice before and I know he hasn't beat him so in some ways this is designed for him to like hey here's your chance to avenge this but on

the home turf of Dustin Poirier the crowd the sentiment everything all week is about Dustin you're asked to go in there and be kind of ruin their party you know what I mean and then you're supposed to say like okay I want to position myself where I can be near a title shot although I know at the last pay-per-view they brought in Patti Pimblitt to face off with with Ilya Tupori so that's not likely so it was like it was it was one of those weird situations but okay so he could have went through the motions or this could have looked a lot different and he went in there like a very hungry guy in his prime, you know, like, like he was not going to lose.

Um, like there was nothing in him that would, um, give into this moment and make him think otherwise. And I, I think that that's what's so impressive, not, you know, at UFC 300, when he, when he threw down the Golan, he like knocks out Gagey and one of the great knockouts in UFC history. It's just the cult of Max, right? Like this is the cult of Max Holloway. In a situation like this, you're like, if you're ever going to get complacent or sentimental or any kind of whatever it's going to be, it might seep into a fight like this. And that is not what happened, man. This dude was hungry. He looked as good as I, you know, man, there are so many great fights of his. I always point to that Calvin Cater fight is one of those, or there's others, the hooker

fight. Like there's a bunch of them where you're like, man, it's just incredible to watch him, but this is up there. I would put this up there just given all of the circumstances where he was at and all the ways that he could have not been focused. You know what I mean? To show up like that man was pretty incredible. Yeah. And look, he's an icon of the sport. Um, you know, and that's what you're looking at. Like you can't help when you're watching those two guys in the cage, just going to be like, holy shit, I love these dudes.

You know, like they're fighting, like it's the first round, second, like any round at all, you're just like fucking hell, those boys are there. They're a live event, right? Like it's like, yeah, that's one of the, like when they fight or like just in general, but when they're fighting each other, it's like, that is the moment you're like, man, that atmosphere, when you're not there, you get a little bit of that, like, Oh man, I would love to be in that arena right now and feel what's going on in that arena. It's just because I think

they bring that out in a live audience. You know what I mean? Like the live crowd, that's what translates really well. Mate, like you're talking about like crowd participation. This point at the ground thing has become a completely different beast to anything we've ever seen before. I was watching like, as in the commentary team are like, I can't wait to see what's going on the last 10 seconds. There's about 18 seconds left in the clock.

Then you start to see people rise. Like it's some type of religious moment all around the people are rising. Here it comes. Here it comes. And then he fucking like the level of respect you must have for Dustin Poirier. I got you as knock people dead in that house. Yeah, we'll be like, let's go. It seems dangerous, dude. This felt like a, you know, this particular, I'm Justin Gaethje. Yes. Same thing. You know, Justin Hattar, but given the circumstance, like if there's any kind of

poetic, anything governing this, you're like, oh man, do you tempted in this situation with the with with poor a who does hit hard and they weren't losing a lot of their snap in their exchanges down the stretch there, but dude, did you even did you see that when he when he points to the ground on this one, he rips a couple of big shots to the body. I felt like Dustin almost didn't even get any shots off like he might have thrown a couple punches, but that was like one sided. Once he threw it down, that was equally impressive to me. Yeah, it's kind of like reminds me like an old John Claude van Dam film where like they're offering each other a beautiful death after

like, you know, 24 minutes of fighting. I will honor you by the most violent fashion I can imagine. Yes. Well, listen, what a way to finish a car. We were wondering if it, you know, like, were they getting away with one of the UFC putting this top of the car, the BMF belt, but look as a fight in terms of the appeal of those two guys fighting and absolutely delivered in terms of a main event, we had Paulo Costa in the call main event as an underdog and we'll talk a little about our picks. I wonder if Rick and GC are still around there. Mysterious Frank, good old knife from mysterious. Okay. But listen, Paulo Costa, Roman Kopilov, absolutely unbelievable fight. Roman Kopilov, I gotta say,

right? Before we wax lyrical on Kopilov, I'm sorry, on Costa, Kopilov has been a very frustrating fighter for me to watch since his days in AC. It was a fight nights global. I believe he was the champion and he was this boxing prodigy over there. I think he must have come into the promotion at 2019, 2020. And I was sure this is a guy that would be up there fighting for titles. He has got painfully close twice. I think, I think like, like, I mean, painfully close to being in that conversation. I'd say twice.

One was when he met Fluffy Hernandez and he got, uh, he got submitted. And then against Costa here, he just didn't seem to get going. His right hand landed a bit, but Costa managed to do it. And really when you look at the caliber of lads that Costa has put away, the writing was on the wall, but still a very, very good performance. I thought from Costa Chuck. Yeah. And I mean, that first round really set the tempo of everything Kostajuk like it was like four times the strikes he just

looked like he was in the fight and it looked like Kapilov wasn't very strange but from another perspective like you're saying like you're looking from Kostajuk we've been waiting for that version I don't know if we it was exactly the version that fought Romero that we were looking for but it was definitely an improvement wasn't it felt like he was kind of head hunting. It was crazy because he's one of those guys who throws one big shot backs up and watches for a minute and then he throws another big shot. There's not a lot of combos. He was doing that in this one, but those punches were counting,

man. Like every time they were landing flush or anything that was landing, it felt way bigger than anything copy law was coming up with. Um, and that just kind of set the tempo. And I don't know if it just knocked him off his moorings in terms of Kopilov or what, but it's, it felt like he was a little more tentative and he just couldn't find a rhythm out there. Yeah. What do you think of, uh, cost is placing himself for a, for a fight with a Shumayev like in, in this day and age, like, I mean, it is smart.

Yeah. Like in this day and age, this thing's really sell. Like, I mean, he's throwing out, like this man was DMing my wife. Like it's the most personal details you can offer because you're like, this actually might be a way the UFC would sink their teeth into this. Like, um, smart idea. Um, do you think he could be rushed to the top if they do get this moment where Shamoah F becomes champion and as we have seen previously, no matter how dominant the champion may seem, if the UFC like a matchup, they tend to make it instead of, well, this guy has served his time. This guy has been our champion. Let's give them the rematch. I just I don't know but I think it's very smart because

Circumstantially, right? Like let's just say that Shamaya wins and he becomes the champion Circumstantially if let's say that there's a there whoever it is. They're looking at and we're gonna do this next Just can't get done on a timetable yet. You've got Costa right there You could see in a situation like that where all of a sudden it's like well, hey, wait a minute Our plan B is not too bad here You know what I mean? So, and we've seen that kind of thing quite a bit, man, like where just circumstantially things happen and the guy who kind of makes the best storyline or whatever jumps the queue and

he's right in there. So it wouldn't surprise me, I guess, if that's, but if you were just saying that he's the front runner, you know, I'd be like, that's a little bit of a stretch, right? Like just to be like right out of the gate, he should be the guy that would be a stretch you know, I'd be like, that's a little bit of a stretch, right? Like just to be like, we're right out of the gate. He should be the guy. That would be a stretch. Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely. I agree with you, but look, it's a mad time. We live in Chuck. We know this. It is. Well, that's why nowadays you're like, I don't know, man. We're Patty Pimlet

would seem weird and weird. You know, like we're somewhere behind it. I know. Put them in there, put them in there. It's like, it's like, it makes complete sense. Daniel Rodriguez having himself, um, uh, a bit of an L run that he's put together three fights in a row, Alex Morano, Santiago, Panzer, Nibia, and now Kevin Holland. Uh, he defeats by unanimous decision, a big underdog as well. It was certainly a knife for the underdogs, but Kevin Holland just didn't seem to get going. I felt like Rodriguez was in control a lot more. He kind of, he started off the fight trying to smother Holland, smother

all his work, which I thought was very intelligent. I saw this position here with Sean when he was getting them on the ground, I thought he would have a serious, serious advantage, but Rodriguez managed to scramble better than we've ever seen him. He was on Ariel's show. I think it was like, I want to say it was in two months ago. And he just kind of, he was like, everything's changed. You know, like this is the first time I've really been able to dedicate myself. I can finally be a full-time fighter. I'm going to realize these dreams.

He's a guy that I've always liked to watch for, but he does seem to be coming into his own all of a sudden. It's a lot of tattoos. He's sporting there, man. But I will say that he, uh, he surprised me because I thought that, you know, we've just watched Hall and we were talking about like, is this guy kind of, um, you know, punches his punching, his ticket back into contendership, like

literally like, you know, you're thinking of those, those types of things that surprised me a little bit to watch him drop Holland, you know, and then some of the some of the action, the way it took place and also the sprawls like a couple of those were really brilliant. Like you mentioned, man, like he held his own just about everywhere. And then the third round happens and it looks like he's about to die. First of all, he's like huffing like he's he looks like he's

barely able to keep going. Take some big shots. A couple of times it looked like he might be out on his feet a little bit. I saw that the I think it was Beltran was like ready to step in at one point like he jumps in like he's just about to do it. He doesn't and it looks like it's going to be over but to survive that and then to end up in the end kind of you know raining down punches can't I mean it's just like if the if the main event worse weren't so crazy in itself I mean this might have been the fight that you're we're talking about more So than all the others right because of that it was just a wild fight man

Holland's probably gonna have some big-time regrets Looking back at that third round because I thought if he just stands up again How hurt D rod was in that moment he might have been able to put him away with one more big blow It's just one of those situations where the recovery happens and then suddenly you were down to nothing on the scorecards and there's nothing you can do at that point yeah absolutely and look you're dead right it was a brilliant brilliant fight and I feel like Kevin Hollins nearly like the UFC's modern answer to Diaz one of these guys that you can just put on a card like I'm not trying to say

he's the same level of icon or brand that one of these guys is but just in terms of a dude that will always be in a crowd Please and fight for the most part right? I know he's had some dudes in his past But yeah, you use this is the one though that if you it's you know There are guys who are not tailor-made for him and then you know the bouncing why you were talking about Holland, right? We're talking about Holland here Pizzi him and then you know the bouncing why you were talking about Holland right we're talking about Holland here okay PZ yes you got me okay sorry okay I just want to make sure we're talking about the same guy so he's he's been he's he's been in situations where they've seen him against this advantage guys that he was you know not supposed to perform well against her we'd have to

find out if he's going to be able to compete in the styles that they did. And then we've seen guys who are more tailor-made. I felt like this was more of the tailor-made. When you're on a run, you're and you get a guy like this who basically is a stand-up fighter, he's gonna meet you there. It felt like the tools, like if you're looking at who has the deeper toolbox here and who can do this and this, I thought you go down the that list and say Holland Holland Holland maybe D right in Holland you know I mean it seemed it seemed to be his advantage so if you trip up on this one this is when you're like so to me

this solidifies that place we were putting him in a couple years ago where you're like he's a great he's an entertaining fighter I think he's done the company a lot of solids, but maybe not a true contender in the end. You know, I think that that's kind of where he's at at this point. No, absolutely. But I do still think there's value in being,

because there's so few of them that the UFC seemed to link to like as guys, like you put this, like a Seroni even back in the day, right? Like he, he was, he touched on contendership a few times, but when it's like, when the people really want to get out of their seats and go crazy, it's a Kevin Hollingfoy and that's not a terrible place to be either. I guess.

Um, Oh, listen, I f**k like the, can we just show the pics? Cause I want to keep referencing them. It was a f**k. It was a bad one. I don't want to show the pics. This is my worst one ever. I know, but you, you guys are top of the league. Use it a bit like yourself and GC I know GC isn't here right now,

but yourself and GC, shadow GC and Rick, fantastic job. We still have the wonderful people in the back, of course. Still here. Andy, we have Frank, we have Jordan. Yeah, look, here we go. Who the fuck is we? Listen, Frank, you did better than everyone today. You should be on a victory lap, my friend.

I appreciate you saying that. Frank didn't make his own main event pick though. There's a team effort. Oh, well, Jordan. So you're one of one technically, Jordan, right? Well, no, Andy also contributed. It was a whole debate, the back route, back back year. They were the equivalent of a Magic 8 ball.

Well, like, I mean, it's unfair, right? It's unfair because I'm bringing this up and it's a bad one for you and GC, but you guys have been, you guys have been killing it. Like you, we had on five. Oh, I went, I went one and five, like it's hardly a victory. Me and Rick boat went one and five. I was given, I'm sorry. One of four. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Um, I was given Ben shit about Patricio people. Of course. This is like, uh, it's, I mean, we put the X on all of that. I was fairly certain that, uh, Zell Huber would, um, make easy work of Michael Johnson, but I did say that the dude wins fights you think he's going to

lose. So it's a little bit of a wild card to spring and upset like that. I just didn't think that it would go down like that. I thought if you would catch him or something like that, not just kind of beat him throughout the fight, that was very surprising to me. Yeah. It was just all surprised. Like, and in fairness to him, fair, fair play Patricio. Like I really thought, I thought it was over, dude. I'm not going to lie to you. Like when you came in against Yair and you didn't get the win and I've been

critical of years, sometimes I'm a big fan of him other times, but I felt like Patricio, that's going to be a big opportunity. And honestly, when I saw Ege, I was like, nah, this isn't a good one. Ege is too fast. Yeah. And look, he seemed like that early on, but then Patricio just, he has this ability to just start bulldozing lads and that's what he did.

And he seemed way stronger in the grappling exchanges and eventually EGAY is chasing the fight. As soon as you hit round three there, you're like, well, a guy of this championship elk is just not losing. Right? Like that, that's how I was feeling. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I felt to me like, so if you, if you've paid attention to, uh, you know, Pitbull bull Through his time in Bellator the vintage performances are the ones where he really showed up This is kind of a look that third round specifically. I was like he looked totally comfortable so if there were jitters in that Rodriguez fight or You know, maybe it's just Rodriguez is just presented such a weird puzzle He could never get into rhythm the what we saw in this fight, especially as the fight went down the stretch, I thought was kind of more the vintage pit bull to me. You know what I mean? Yeah, they showed they flashed at one point. I don't know if it was during that fight, but a patchy mix was there. And this is kind of what I was expecting from patchy was like the just, you know, come into the UFC and like kind of show like, Hey man, see there's guys out there who

can compete with anybody you throw at them. And instead Mario Batusa, I think was also there, like takes him to school. So it's not a gimme. And I was kind of in Europe. I was with you, man. I was like, I was looking at this fight. I'm like, I think Danny gay, like he, you know, we've seen him quite a bit and I know everything he offers. This is probably one of those fights. You get a spirited effort from pit bull, but it'll come up short. And that I was way off again, man. So very difficult to predict these fights here. Yeah. Is there anyone jumping out like fresh

in your head? That's a good fight. Like I'm, I'm looking through the rankings here, like a Steve Garcia and I'm David on Anna. Hmm. Yeah. There's John silver, like, you know, obviously there's guys with fights here as well already. Um, yeah. Use of the law was in the crowd. There's nothing jumping out and being like, you know, this is the one. Um, there it is there. The beautiful on our Jordan doing fantastic work with these graphics. Yeah.

It's tough, man. I mean, nothing feels normal, right? Yeah. It's like you're introducing, you're introducing a guy who's the value of, like, because we're even talking about this card, you're not sure where his value is yet. I mean, especially like where he's coming from, his age, everything like that, what has he got left? So it's kind of a new discussion for him to show up and be Danny guy. Okay. Where does that put him? And one of those guys toward the bottom of that would be fine by me. You know what I mean? I feel like if you're going to do

it, if you're going to find out what he's got and what, you know, if he really has a run at the title here, that's how you would find out. So I'd be okay with it. It's just, we, I don't think we were prepared to actually, um, contemplate him there yet. You know what I mean? You just fucking give him Aaron Pico remember the most are of over pulled out out there they made that fight official like I don't even yeah that's official right now no it's gone there I have a web pulled out with the Pico fight so Pico's left footed out dance partner I don't

know that's it's like look it's literally it's five to seven here okay we're doing we're doing the best we can don't you're doing what you can pizza listen man there's been talking about doing, we're doing the best we can. You're doing what you can. Pizzi. Listen, man, there's talking about doing what we can. Michael Johnson. I had a feeling you, you, you said this on the, on the pre fight we did on the crack, you were like, he's the type of guy that shows up when he has a guy that he's meant to absolutely get destroyed by. Like that is when Johnson's like, do you know what I'm about to put on a

generational performance and that he did. He, uh, he puts El Hoover down a couple of times. It was a kind of a night of like old school guys just coming back and saying, I'm not done yet motherfucker. And there he is doing exactly that. Tangle cell Uber. God love him. Doesn't even make sense. Does it 39 and like, I mean, a journeyman to an extent, like obviously he's been around, but like kind of a journeyman to an extent like obviously he's been around but like kind of a journeyman in terms of like you know he just kind of you wouldn't call him a gatekeeper anything because he's not really that high up

there so this seemed to me like a set up for the guy who just put on a fight of the year performance you know to come in here and be like all right let's get you straight we're gonna put you against a veteran all that stuff and instead you get this this is the one thing if we ever remember Michael, you know, Michael Johnson down the stretch, you know, like years from now, we're like, what was he about? I'll always think of that. Like, well, he was very hard to predict because he could fight a guy like Tony

Ferguson back in the day and beat him. You know what I mean? And knock it over him. Yeah. I mean, shit like that. You're like, that doesn't make any sense. And then lose as soon as like, uh, he's kind of a favorite in a fight or whatever. He'd lose, not show up for that one. Very strange, man. Yeah. Yeah. It was a, we have a lot to get through. So let me just shoot through these preliminary results. Uh, lock, uh, lock dog beats, Carla Phillips, um, who saw the final bell, but Jesus Christ, it was, it was tough work. He actually had a great first round, uh, Carla Phillips, but lock dog took it to him after that. Brendan Allen V

Marvin Vittori, Marvin Vittori, another guy looking to get out of the first round. Uh, Allen putting on a really good display. Vittori grew into it, but, uh, I think it was too far gone by the time you start really doing substantial things to Allen. It was crazy though. Real quick, like all those decisions, cause it started off with nothing but finishes. And then I think it was like the last seven or eight fights for all decisions. Yeah. Almost all of those featured a knockdown, like that's kind of crazy. So it almost felt like they weren't decisions because there was moments and almost every single, I think every one on the main card and then the one you're

talking about, there was at least a knockdown where it felt like at any second that fight was going to stop. So very unique in that way. It wasn't like these were coasting decisions or like, uh, you know, pattern developing in the first round. These were fights that had moments that you're like, this is over. And they just happened to go to the scorecards. Very crazy. Yeah. No. And again, Nikolai Verotennikov was another version of that against Prado. He knocked him down. I think it was in the second round. Atiba Gautier and this guy's, Gautier should I say, this guy's story is absolutely incredible. Manchester top team, Carl Prince, he set up like an exchange program with like a wrestling team in Cameroon. And this guy, Atiba came from Cameroon to live in Manchester and he's been living

in Carl Prince's, the head coach of Manchester top teams. He's been living in his father's old house and training in the gym and he's become like a member of the community. There's a few Cameroonian guys there. Another Cameroonian guy. I believe he's Cameroonian guy that trains out of Manchester top team, one on PFL Africa earlier today as well. It's a crazy story. He's kind of taken a, an international football approach,

like say like a Real Madrid or Barcelona or in Carl's case, it's man city cause he's a big man city fan, but he's kind of used like a scouting profile that you'd use in soccer and apply it to MMA. And that's how he's getting all these guys from Africa into his gym. And he then makes connections with the promotions. It's a pretty insane thing. That's him, another big KO against Robert Valentine and looking every part of the middle weight Francis Ngannou has even build up. Another guy, Islam Dulatov, a runway model apparently this guy, does modeling for Versace, a massive KO over Adam Fuga. He looks like a star in the making.

Doesn't he Chuck? Oh yeah. Yeah, he does, man. I mean, that's kind of, it's great. There's a little bit of a showcase for some of these guys tonight. I was thinking, we'll just say Alan Jobin is pissed off back in the, he's in the studio and like, man, this guy's a model and he knocks people out and they just go back and he's sitting there and I was like, is anyone going to say it? Is anyone going to give Alan a bit of love for it? Look, it sounds familiar. You know it sounds familiar to somebody I knew.

That is so impressive, guys. Imagine someone doing that. Yeah. Jimmy Crute got the big love of Theo Vaughan after his first round submission over Merson, Pracneo, Ryan Spahn with a signature guillotine. Like no one is putting enough respect on Spahn's guillotine. That man has guillotine to kill unconscious at this stage. He's absolutely brilliant.

Lucas Bresca being on the bad end of that Bruno Ferreira, a submission. This man used to be like a new age Vandalay Silva just bulldozing people's heads through. He gets an iron bar finish off debutant Jackson McVeigh, the first loss of his career. And we started the night with a beautiful finish by Carly Giudice against Nicole Killiary. And yes, that was it, but there was a lot more action. So do not go anywhere. The most recent thing that happened before Justin Poirier

gracefully retired in his blood bath with Max Holloway was Manny Pacquiao going the distance with Barrios. And I was watching it and I was trying to watch everything. So please, I'm not going to give you a breakdown of score here. But man, I thought I would won that fight the way they were talking on the broadcast. Like they were like, this is insane. This is obviously why they did Barrios. He isn't trying to land in volume.

He's kind of giving him something to hit and he's coming to his own. It started off with Barrios really being in control of things but a Majority draw 46 years of age and looking so good in the closing of this fight that would have been Is it still a magic story Chuck even though he has? Well, of course you're the one you're the one who tweeted it out, right? That is like this sort of like a rocky feeling right 46 years old. I just want to go the distance man You know like a rocky feeling, right? 46 years old, I just want to go the distance, man. You know, he was able to do, and I mean, to get a draw,

not just that, but like, like you're mentioning, kind of slower start, I think the, there was like a little, like sluggishness. And then for him to kind of turn it on as it went on. And then just about everybody I saw was like, did he win that fight? You know what I mean? In the end, that's pretty

crazy man. And what do you do now? Yeah. I mean, it begins to get there. You know, 46 years of age. What do we do now? Is it not like, uh, to your point, is it not better for Pacquiao to kind of walk away now and have everybody in the Philippines be like, he won that fight. They robbed him of that last title. And you get to go off into the, into the sunset like that now. Yes, because you know, his fight before, which was what four years ago, didn't have that feeling at all. And I think that, and you know, it's not just that it's just that we were talking

about like, why are you doing that? We did that round table. We're like, why is he doing this, man? Like, don't do this. And we were talking about the the old? Do you watch through your fingers thing? I think we're thinking a mortal man at 46 years old, you know, but that's to me to see him in that kind of shape and you know the speed and stuff like that.

I would definitely want to go out on that note because I don't know if you're going to do better. If anything, if you if they played, you know they did this one again, I don't think it's going to go quite that way. You know? So I would, I would take this and, and, uh, and run. Yeah. And Sebastian from dog, that's another win over Tim zoo and the call main event of that card. He looked fucking fantastic. The kids so, so tall for that white class and zoo and Sue was savage, like obviously wanted to stay in there.

I think he was actually favored in this fight, um, towards the end, towards close. Uh, but from the, or looked absolutely exceptional. He's a brilliant fighter. Um, let's talk about another boxing belt. I don't know if you heard about this one, Chuck. Um, Alexander Usyk becomes, an undisputed heavyweight champion for the second time in his career, putting manners on Daniel Dubois. Another 38 year old, Jesus.

I mean, I turned 38 this, this, uh, week. I'm not going to lie to you. It's pretty good age. I mean, I beat the shit out of eight guys before we did this podcast. So I'm not going to lie to you. You're in your prime right now, baby. No, it, uh, look at me. I mean, it's, it's three minutes past seven, still wide awake. I'm like, you know, it's like, I'm 18 all over again. Um,

hell of a drug. We said we wouldn't mention the cocaine. So yeah, the, uh, Dubai had obviously a much conversation around the fifth round of their first fight with Dubai and the Phantom body shot was Was it low? Was it high? Today, no dispute over what happened. Usyk put him down, man. That was a beautiful, beautiful display by Usyk. You know, sometimes you watch these fights and there's a feeling out process. Maybe there's a moment where the challenger takes a couple of the rounds in the middle and you're like, Oh, I don't know. And then the, and then the

champion will turn it on and kind of run away down the stretch. This was weird because I felt like you sick from the beginning, you know, that counter, the left, everything was kind of, it was, it was already landing and there was clear, it was, it felt like a setup for like, this could go quick. The third round I thought the ball had a moment where I was like okay maybe maybe but that's it. There was that was the tiniest little window. I mean that was a close round and who knows. I don't even know if the official scores went to him on that round but that was just master

class stuff man. Every time you try to see like well I think this guy can compete with them like in the when in the fury rematch where you're like, I think this could happen. This happened. He goes out there and he does this. He does stuff and it's always one of those real time things really this guy's just too good. You know, he's too good. He it's like he gets into a rhythm. He figures out his guy and in this one man, as soon as he saw that over commitment, he blasted him with that left hand. A thing of beauty. You know, I think that

people be watching that knockout for a long time. Just another master class performance. It'll be very interesting to see what happens with him next. Yeah, man, and he truly hates British heavyweight. So we'll just go through this run here that he's been on Tony Bellew and Charles Witherspoon is an American he had after that, right? Then he had Chasisora, then he had Joshua, then he had Joshua, then he had Dubois, then he had Fury, then he had Fury, and then he had Dubois again, man. It's wild. I hadn't really thought of that.

He, he is the Brit hunter, this guy. Yeah, they love him out there. You figure that out. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. Yeah, it was a big ovation for him. They liked it. Well, you know, when you put manners on them that many times, you're just going to have to give it up at the end. But a lot of conversation afterwards about who we'll fight next. A certain Jake Paul was even in the ring with him, Chuck. I don't know if you saw that. Just to spark all of the fury.

Oh, look at the time. What's he doing there? Sorry, Pizzi. Go ahead. Jake Paul, right? He's kind of a genius, isn't he? Because like this pisses off people so much. And I saw it immediately, you know, for fuck's sake. Like, dude, you're playing into his hands, lads.

This is exactly why he's doing this stuff. And on a secondary point, it was six asks, who do you want after this? And it's just like, Oh, maybe a fury, maybe Joshua. Like nobody wants you beat them both twice. Uh, Joseph Packery mentions, which, which, uh, Lennox Lewis seems to want, but like, it's a great time. I keep seeing people talk about that. And I'm like, dude, the kid's 20 years old, man.

He's 20 years old. I mean, I'm as intrigued as anybody, but you just don't want to feed him to Yusik right now, man. That's crazy to me. Hell, that would be the stupidest management decision anyone could ever make with a Tom. I know. I keep, oh, that's a ton of people. I get it.

The kid looks good, but let's give it a little bit here. And look, it's good for him that people are saying that it's good for him that people want to see that That's all good stuff But you would be an absolute lunatic to put him in that way against us right now I like I like the Parker fight Lennox Lewis gotta do a fight. Is that the one you like? Yeah, that's what they got to do man. It's they've got to do that. It's probably should have already been happening, right? So like at this point What else is there? I mean like that to me is the obvious decision at this point. Yeah like after that like

Jake Paul becomes a serious option. I was trying to say like it just pisses people off because it's like being at a grown-up table and everybody's having a conversation and there's a kid who keeps insinuating himself into the conversation or something like that. Some kind of irritant. And I feel like that's how people see Jake Paul. You know what I mean? And so it's just our thing because he insinuates himself into every conversation. Like you're trying, Hey, would you stop it?

We're trying to have like a real conversation over here. You know, that's what it feels like to me. Exactly. Exactly. Um, do you, where do you put like, you know, I always think back on before the, the Fury Usyk fight, the conversation was very much like Fury is a generational brilliant fighter. Like he is up there. He, people were arguing that he's like, you know, he belongs in the pantheon of greats.

He is up there with Marciano, Ali, all these guys. Usyk does a number on him twice. He's putting on performances like this. Uh, I saw Lewis talk about it, like, you know, I was the best in my generation. This guy's the best of his generation. That's the best that we can, that's the, like the most we can solidly say in most cases, but do you think he belongs in those late night discussions when maybe a few too many beers are had and lads are sitting around talking about who was the greatest heavyweight of all time.

Man, that's such a toughie because I have so much like we're talking all time because you know like there were so many great heavyweights. And store read and iconic. I know. And it's like but and it's also weird because you don't want to get caught up in like the recency thing but I I will say exactly what we're here for. That is literally I know the reason for the show to call boxing has such a longer history than him and may, you know, it's like when you're talking about

him and may like, well, you know, three years ago there was a guy. Did you forget about him? You know, it's like we're talking about guys who existed well before us. You know what I mean? But he's he's gotta be up there and I think that like, if you respect, I think you did, you know, and I think people started to really put Ties and Fury into that conversation of saying, this guy is on another level, you know, after the Wilder fights and all that stuff, like this guy's on another level. And so if you're if you're going by this and then you have this other guy who comes in and I guess that's why we're so focused on fury that you don't see you see kind of slipping up into the spot and then boom he not he beats him and now he you know he just put away the ball like

it. Let's say he goes through Parker who knows. I think that you would have to give that serious consideration where you're like He just kind of beat everybody Within his path anybody who he could beat right like anybody who was a threat to him He beat and to me that's always one of those those things where you have to really look at that And then you're just doing a comparison game. You know if it's Linux Lewis, you'd have to go back and kind of remember Exactly his run. You know what I mean? So I I think he's in a good conversation I think if you're actually having that late-night beer conversation you would have some good arguing points let's put it that way yeah and he's also got like

the the the backdrop of the Ukraine situation right like where he's going back to fight yeah there's of that and also just his kind of cult of personality, you know? I am feel. I am feel. But he's like, what did he say about the 38? 38 is dude, he's young or whatever. Thank you. Yeah.

I know. I was like emotional. But I mean, that's just like, it's just, it's almost like his timing is really good. You know, his English, like it translates. I don't know. It's just the whole thing is like, he's got, he's got a vibe man that I, I think that that plays into it. You know, Muhammad Ali and that, you know, we always make this comparison,

but like part of why people see him as one of the greatest or, or the greatest is because he could match it in other ways. His convictions, you're mentioning a Ukraine kind of going back and all of that stuff. Like that's the convictions of what goes into it when you see a person With different layers and like you know what I mean like you just see him as something bigger than life That's where he's at. He's entering that terrain now Wembley Stadium is in England. I'll tell you who else is from England. It is Dakota to check whichever who that's right in England, it is Dakota Decheva who fought in Cape Town tonight. I don't know if you saw this, but she also announced that, uh, she has a new contract signed with the PFL in the aftermath of her class.

She also confirmed that she may have suffered a broken hand in her fight against Inaba went the distance, but it was not a nice night for her Hawaiian opponent. Let me tell you, she got hit with the kitchen sink, elbows, punches, spinning back kicks, knees, like full blown knees to the face. I don't know how the girl stayed in there. Fair play to her. She lost every second of the fight. But, um, just like the second time, I believe, I believe it's like the Chris Matino O'Malley fight. You know, it's like just watching somebody take punishment for the amount of time that they've allotted for that fight.

That is exactly what it was. Yeah. I have no joke. And I have a stat here because I put it in my post fight article that's up on Uncrowned along with everything else. All of these things we were talking about have been covered in depth on Uncrowned. Make sure you get over there. But there was a wild stat that they gave out on the broadcast.

Now I did not fact check this. I did not go and check if this was true, but they said the Manchester talent landed 87% of her shots over three rounds, 152 of 174 shots. That's incredible. Wow. That's incredible, man. That is fucking insane. So she lands all these shots. She's in a clinch situation in the third round and she just starts mouthing at her corner, waving her hand going hands broken. No, my Lord. And they're like, yeah, it's okay.

Changes their style completely. Like, use your other hand. She goes into like a wonder boy style kind of side kicking kind of style then for the rest of fight wins it. But, um, I guess, I guess the big talking point is here. We discussed the fact that can Dakota be the biggest female, uh, MMA star while she's with the PFL, uh, there was all kinds of talks about possibilities. There was all kinds of talks of, could there even be a trade?

Uh, I heard at one stage with Dakota Degeva, um, now she's signed up for quote the next few years, what do you think of that move from Degeva? Well, I think it's going to, well, I guess we're going to get our answer to that question because now if she can't become that superstar for PFL, um, you'll always have this what if, you know, that's a long time, you know, if it's really a few years, that's a long time and who knows how this all roll But we do know that it's very difficult to become like a real big star outside the UFC if she comes to the UFC and just With their promo, you know abilities behind them and what that what the UFC is able to do

I could see this happening, you know where she just blows up in the in the biggest way. I thought she I I've said this several times. I still believe it that she's probably the most coveted non UFC fighter that the UFC would want, you know, and that's for a lot of reasons. I just think she would resurrect if there was a sagging moment in the, uh, you know, since, since some of the, the things that were going on with Rhonda and, uh, you know, Joanna and all that stuff. If this was a moment where you're like, ah,

people aren't paying as close of attention to the women's side of it anymore. I do think that she brings that roaring back. So there's a part of you that's like, man, I would have loved to have seen how big that could get. I also think that she's that good. Like she's one of those people who's not smoking mirrors. I think she's that good. And if you throw her into, you know, um, against UFC fighters, I think she would show you how good she is, you know? So I guess it's a little, it's a little disappointing, isn't it? Like I kind of wanted to see that a good for the PFL. That's a very smart move. Um, and if you're going to build a roster, if you're going to try to build, um, into something that can actually rival or at least

compliment the UFC or be in that space, you definitely want to have a Dakota Deceva on your side. Yeah. Like I think you got to look at it from their point of view. If, if we're in this situation and I think there's been a lot of criticism and I've levied a lot of criticism at the PFL over the last while you've got to be keeping names like these fair play to them, you know, you've got to be keeping the Cody, you've got to be keeping a lot, you know, yeah, recently. You know, so it's like, it's smart.

And I will say like, I do think there is design to what they're doing in terms of, like, the people they've got to where they've let go, despite how talented we all thought they were at the time. Micks, for example, we were like, what the fuck? Pitbull, these guys, the people they have kept are people who are unique to PFL, probably the exception of Eblen, who we'll talk about in a second. But like, Dakota is a very uniquely came up through their system. That is the exact kind of fighter like Paul Hughes.

You need to keep them because you made such a big deal of getting them. What was the point of making a big deal together and don't hang on to them? So I think, I think they're sensible people to keep on. I mentioned Johnny Evelyn, Chuck. I don't know if you got to see this fight, but let me tell you, there was a lot of shit going on. Usyk fight was starting, which you had to watch as well. Yeah.

But I missed, I did miss the big portion of this. So just so you know. Yeah. Well, let me, let me give it to you, mate. Okay. I was kind of keeping eyes on both sides, both screens at the same time. And it looked like any other Eblen fight. You're like, oh, he is just doing what he wants to this guy.

Like this, I kind of like saw him win the first two rounds. I was kind of, I switched over to like Usyk, I'd say in round three, looking back still like wasn't locked in on it, but still thought it seemed to be going Eblen's way. I said, right, I better have a look at this fourth round because, you know, Costas is going to have to probably knock this guy out or something if he's going to want to win at this stage. The visible signs start to occur. He hits him with a calf kick.

Eblen kind of falls over. Next of all, Eblen's on his feet and he's got blood all over his face. And I'm like, okay. Next of all, when Stinas is landing straights, like big, these big lunging jabs he was hitting with, body kicks,, um, he starts landing his right hand and like, holy shit, all of a sudden at the end of the fourth round, you're like, so fan scene is completely has some momentum here. This is crazy.

Right? Fifth round starts. So I'm going right. Like this, this needs to be, Evelyn usually comes into his own hair. Like as soon as you think, well, is this other guy actually going to do something to him? He becomes brilliant and that's exactly what he does. He takes him down About a minute into the I'd say a minute or two minutes into the round. I was like, right Well, he's just gonna coast here. He can win here with 55 seconds left on the clock. He has two hooks in He has the back and so you're like this is over. Ebelin's won the fight

I don't know what the fuck happened from 55 seconds to 47 seconds later, him being completely unconscious. But there seemed to be some type of scramble. There seemed to be a complete reversal of positions where Oslo Van Steen is now on his back. And next of all, as soon as he was on his back, the choke is in and the cameras just froze on Eblen's face. Here it is.

This is the exact part. Can we roll that footage or is this just a still image guys? Yeah, we go. Look at this. And you're like, Oh, he must be okay. He must be okay. Yeah. Oh, he's not okay. Oh no. That's wild. Mate, one of the fucking wildest ends to a fight I have ever seen. Um, absolutely insane. And let's not, let's not put this lightly. Eblen was considered one of the, we were just speaking about Dakota in these terms. Eblen was every bit on these terms.

Well considered one of the great talents outside of the UFC. We had the likes of Poirier constantly endorsing him. This guy comes in here, he's going to be the best fighter at middleweight immediately. That is a fucking huge result for Kostelov. And you felt like Eblen was just getting started He's complaining that he's not getting enough fights. You feel like you're stick He's going to be that kind of Ben Askren figure

I guess for the PFL that you're like just kind of plowing through anybody that they put him up against until You start to contemplate how he looks against the UFC, right? Like I felt like he was in that terrain and he I thought he was poised to be there just given his style his attitude and all that stuff. I thought like he was poised to stay there for a long time. So as that unfold and I only saw like the end I didn't see that I didn't get to see the setups what was happening there but that's shocking and that's that's MMA in the craziest form right because that's going to like that's the type of thing that will haunt a fighter until he's able to get back there. That might haunt him his whole

career to lose at the very end. Like that is crazy, man. It's absolutely insane. Also tonight, just very quickly, we did have a Bam Rodriguez winning the 10 round. We also had KSW 108, Saldaev stopping Leo, Bridget. I know Chuck was tuned into this one main event, the KSW one. I did, I did first round knockout, as you know, a mad night for the UFC though. And, and just before we go to you, do you think the event delivered like all in all, like three 18, we were kind of debating like, is this card a pay-per-view material when all is said and done? As we said, we were using the famous Dana rhetoric. Yeah.

We can't say how good the night of fights was until the night of it. You got to pay the money and wait. And then you can't say, well, I'm going to go to the fight and I'm going to go to the fight and I'm going to go to the fight and I'm going to go to the fight and I'm going When all is said and done, as we said, we were using the famous day in a rhetoric league. We can't say how good the night of fights was until the night of fights. You got to pay the money and wait. Well we paid the money and we waited. And now I'm telling you baby. It always, it always, it always feels like it pays off if that main event delivers, right?

Like that's what it comes down to. If your main event, that's what you walk away from. So if you're a paying customer, if you bought, you know, this pay-per-view, if you're at the arena, you're walking out, that's what's fresh on your mind. That's what you're going to talk about. That's what you're going to remember. As long as that main event delivers, I feel like it ends up being okay. But on whole, it was okay.

I think there were a couple of good fights on it. There was a very weird night. I will say that like I was mentioning all those knock downs and things like that. Like there was a lot of suspense in this night and you got some big underdogs who came through. So in a strange way, I think it probably did deliver. You know what I mean? Um, so in the, in the Dana White sense, I mean, don't knock it until you've watched it, right?

There we go. A beautiful nod to our fearless, fearless King, Dana boy. Who we love. I feel so dirty. I'm gonna have to go shower now. Well, lads, that's everything that we have for you tonight. Uh, it was a fantastic night of fights from UFC 318. Um, thank you for tuning in for the watch along with the lads, Rick and GC for the post-fight show with me and Chuck.

Thank you to Frank. Thank you on Jordan thank you Andy thank you Rick thank you GC thank you Mr. Hellwany who is not here today but we love you very much signing off this is PT Carroll we're back Monday with the Ariel O'Wanney show see you soon