The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC 318 preview, Jon Jones is 'back?' Dustin Poirier's legacy, Manny Pacquiao returns, voicemails, more | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

The Boys in the Back kick off a stacked show with their reaction to Jon Jones' appearance at the ESPYS, stating he's 'back' and ready to fight at the White House (01:30).Then, they head down to the Bi...g Easy, paying homage to the legendary career of Dustin Poirier ahead of his last dance against Max Holloway (10:53), before breaking down the UFC 318 main event in detail (24:22). They preview co-main event, Paulo Costa vs. Roman Kopylov, and the rest of the card, including the prelims (47:18).Next, they debut a brand new Fight Feasts (1:12:56), showcasing Cajun food, before turning attention to PFL Africa (1:29:09), Usyk-Dubois 2, and Manny Pacquiao's return from retirement against Mario Barrios (1:35:01).After making picks (1:40:39), they give their P4P hot sauce rankings (1:49:19), listen to your voicemails (2:06:35), and answer Super Chats (2:38:59).

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Starting point is 00:00:00 B-b-b-boys in the back. B-b-b-boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys in the back. Is good! We are back with another episode of The Boys in the Back. This time, The Boys in the Bayou in honor of UFC 318 going down in New Orleans this weekend. I am Connor Birx. Join alongside me as always, New York Rick. We make up two thirds of the boys in the bayou. Frankie, how we doing back there, brother? Doing great, man. Thank you for checking in. Of course, man.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I know you get cranky if we don't ask you. What a corporate answer. What a down the line. Every time I'm telling you, you could tee the guy up, be like, tell me why you're hyped for XYZ, Frank, and then I'll just be like. It'll be great. Because it's gonna be great.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Did you have a good birthday yesterday? Yeah, no thanks to you, though. You're welcome, and then I'll just be like. It'll be great. Cause it's gonna be great. Did you have a good birthday yesterday? Yeah, no thanks to you though. No, I'm just kidding. We had a great dinner. We went next door. We went next door, baby. I am hyped to be here. Massive, massive weekend in combat sports ahead of us.
Starting point is 00:00:59 UFC 318, Usyk Dubois 2, KSW 108. People forget about that. PFL Africa, yeah there it is. Pacquiao Barrios. The return of Manny Pacquiao and he's fighting for a title. Ben Rodriguez also fighting. It's gonna be a Pac Saturday.
Starting point is 00:01:15 It's gonna be great and we're here to get you ready. The boys in the bio. The boys on the bio. It's been stuck in my head all morning baby. Frankie, you started singing it? I love it. Pretty good. We will do a deep dive on all of those fights that we just mentioned, but before we get to that,
Starting point is 00:01:30 a bit of news. Last night, the ESPYs happened, and I swear, growing up, my whole life, July 16th is my birthday, I swear, 90% of the time, the ESPYs are on my birthday. Oh, interesting. It doesn't matter if it's a Monday, a Tuesday, a Wednesday, I swear like it always feels like it's maybe it's just because it's the week of. Now were you an ESPYs watcher? I was until like 2010,
Starting point is 00:01:54 2011, that's kind of when I started fading off. I did watch last night Shane Gillis was pretty good. When Peyton was like the host all those years that was like the prime era for me. Obviously the Norm MacDonald performance was legendary but I still watched every year when Peyton like that was like the prime era for me. Obviously the Norm MacDonald performance was legendary, but I still watched every year when, like it was like Peyton would host all the time, then I start to fall off at some point. Yeah, and then like, I also just like,
Starting point is 00:02:13 I used to care a lot more about sports. Like I used to just be so locked in on every single sport, NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, I was locked in on everything. Yeah, now I just, I don't have the time, but I did watch last night, Shane Gillis was. Shout out, Shane Gillis. Shout out to the ESP's. But on the red carpet beforehand,
Starting point is 00:02:32 our guy repping MMA, Johnny Bones Jones, was asked about retirement, was asked about the White House fight, and he had this to say, to be able to entertain the country and the world at this level, at the White House, it just means the world to me. So I'm back. He's back.
Starting point is 00:02:53 He's back. The shortest retirement of all time. Yeah. Dana White, earlier this week, claiming like four days after retirement, John Jones called him to get back in the pool. So I guess John Jones is back. He says he's back.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Have times ever been higher? John Jones is back in the pool. Connor McGregor is back in the pool. UFC's back. Yeah, do you think they'll fight though? All right, so, oh man. The answer to both of those is tough. I will say in John Jones' defense,
Starting point is 00:03:24 this is the first time since the Stipe fight that he's been like, oh yeah, I'll fight. The answer to both of those is tough. I will say in John Jones' defense, this is the first time since the Stipe fight that he's been like, oh yeah, I'll fight. It feels like he has something motivating him with the White House card. I think the only way he fights is if it's the White House card and he gets to be, I would assume the main event of that.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So this is the first time where he's like, yep, I'm back. I wanna go fight. Where he even even said whoever is the heavyweight champion for the White House card is who I'll fight. My only hesitation is it's easy to say that now. Of course yeah. We're a year away. It's also easy to say that you're gonna do a card at the White House. Yeah you're skeptical on that. I think that happens no matter what. I'm hoping we get a black and white highlight reel of how many times me shitting on it and then it actually happens.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Well, famously, myself, Pizzi shit on USC, shit on USC 300, and then we ended up in the black and white like, I'm hoping I get that. Look at these shitty media guys shitting on USC 300. Meanwhile, we did nothing of the sort and then we ended up in the video. So maybe you will end up in the anti White House video the doubter. Well, not anti White House
Starting point is 00:04:28 Let's not say that anti UFC White House. There you go anti UFC event at the White House. Yeah can't be at that White House I I Think John Jones is motivated at this moment when it when it feels far away, if the time draws nearer and Tom Aspinall is still the champion, I don't foresee him ultimately jumping at it. You think that if Tom Aspinall gets dethroned, it becomes more likely.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It becomes more likely, but you think no matter what, even if it's Tom Aspinall, he will not fight. If he were to fight- He's gonna fight Whitehouse. If he were to fight Tom Aspin if he were to fight Tom Aspinal it feels like an admission of defeat almost and like he's standing on principle right now. His principle is like Tom didn't do enough I don't want to do it. Maybe he can convince himself by the time that rolls around like okay Tom's got a win over Serogon and maybe
Starting point is 00:05:20 Jelten Almeida and who knows what else? And he can get himself up for it? No, actually, probably not. By the time he beats, let's say he faces Serogon in October, beats him there, do you even try to squeeze one more in before this potential White House thing? And then if you're Tom, yeah, this thing's so messy. If you do it in October, you could do a fight in February.
Starting point is 00:05:40 What happens if that's a dust-up? What happens if you can't now make it to July? And if you're Tom Aspinall, do you sit on the sidelines one more time going, well, John said he's gonna fight at the White House, so I'm gonna wait for him. Do you do that one more time if you're Tom Aspinall? It is prickly stuff. I am not a fan of how this has kind of played out at the end of John Jones' run. I am not a fan of how this has kind of played out at the end of John Jones' run, but ultimately, if his word is that this White House thing
Starting point is 00:06:11 has motivated him again and Dana White's word is I would love to have John Jones headline our White House card, I guess full steam ahead. I don't know. It's too early. I can't care about this until we get closer. I am with you. I don't know if any of this is going to happen,
Starting point is 00:06:27 but I will say this does feel like the thing that would get John Jones going. Him saying definitively I'm back is interesting because he's been waffling for the last however many months. So that's at least something, but I don't know. I'm still skeptical. Would be incredible. Would be incredible. Connor also back in the pool.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I mean, I know Dana White when he was talking to the Nelk boys, they asked, would you put John and Connor on the same card and he was like, maybe. Hell no. There's no chance. No, you go, I mean he's been talking about, by the way, everybody's kind of falling for the same thing when he said for USC 300 like, you're never gonna believe it. We're gonna have this stack card that's gonna blow your mind. Like 300 was great, it came and it went, but it was not something that it was like Connor and John
Starting point is 00:07:08 on the same card. Like it is not of that caliber. He's doing that again, it's the greatest card of all time, oh my God, and then everybody's gonna be disappointed when it comes, and then it's actually, what will the fight be? The fight will be Marabdavaleshvili versus Umar Nirmaga-Madov rematch. We'll be the headliner of the White House card and everybody will be like,
Starting point is 00:07:33 what the fuck happened here? There's no chance. If Donny's getting involved, then he's going to have to do some negotiations. Donny Davis? No, Donny T. 45-47. Shut up. I mean, you got the hat on. No, it's not that Yeah, no. 45, 47. Shut up. I mean, you got the hat on.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah. No, it's not that hat. It's a war hat. Should I put this one on as well? No, don't touch that. Ariel will not like that. Even though I did buy it. I did buy it for him.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, but now it's- Actually, I didn't even buy it for him. I just bought it. And then he threw it on the street. Yeah, but now it lives there and do not disturb it. Do not disturb anything on this set. So yeah, we'll be monitoring that of course. Old Johnny says he's back, Connor back in the pool.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Everyone wants to be on this White House card. Dana White says it's definitively happening. So this time next year, yep, this time next year will potentially come and gone. Who knows, but I'm sure in the next 365 or however many it is, 347, there will be plenty of speculation along the way. I just have to say one more thing. What even happens from here? Like Tom Aspinal goes out and fights in October and John Jones is just like, see you in July.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like what even is the game plan at this point? How do you even play this shit? It's kind of ridiculous if I'm being honest. Like this White House thing should not be talked about again until February. Unfortunately, it'll White House thing should not be talked about again until February. Unfortunately it'll be the only thing that's talked about. It's going to be bizarre because it's like John Jones is back. Okay John Jones is back. To do what? Oh fight in a year from now. Okay great. You know what the White House thing is? It is like the casual conversation starter when like you're speaking to someone that doesn't actually really watch fighting but they're like oh I'm a huge UFC fan they're like what about this about the White House
Starting point is 00:09:08 yeah it's just like yeah we'll see man yeah we'll see Dustin Poirier-Max Holloway this weekend White House card yeah it's like what my mom brings up to me about about MMA that's like my real judge if my mom is saying something to me about MMA I know it's like heavy in the casual sphere. She's like... She texted me. She was like... Locked on Kyler Phillips, you know about that? Wait, what'd you say, mom? She's like, yeah, my breakout fighter of the year. Oh, shit, mom, you know, ball. You know, ball. No, my mom texted me and was like, they're gonna do a UFC card at the White House. Yeah, my mom as well. Yeah, and then I was at a bar recently and someone started talking to me about it and they were just like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:48 doing a card at the White House? I was just like, yep. I remember when I was watching when Holly Holm head kicked Ron DeRouze. That's always the follow-up. That's always the follow-up. Conor McGregor, John Jones, Holly Holm head kicking Ron DeRouze,
Starting point is 00:10:02 those are the three. Yep. Ah, fuck this. Classic. Like even when someone like, I remember one time I was somewhere and someone brought up Tony Ferguson to me John Jones, Holly Holm, Headkicking, Ron DeRouze, those are the three. Yeah. Those are the three good to this. Classic. Like even when someone like, I remember one time I was somewhere and someone brought up Tony Ferguson to me and I was like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:10:10 You're like, oh shit, you got the deep cuts. Let's talk, man, let's talk. James Tahuna? Someone brings up James Tahuna, I would get on the ground and kiss their feet. They are god tier MMA knowledge. Can I just say how good the desk looks? Boys in the bio, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:25 And this all came together at like 10 37 a.m. this morning. It looks great. I was like, yeah, we should have done boys in the bio. Frankie almost looks like an X-Man. Like he's like ready for battle. So I actually, I didn't blur out his mask because he's trying to keep his secret identity. Got it.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, so it doesn't blend in. Interfere, yeah. Also that is the war hat you are wearing on the graphic. I mean we're graphics team. It's my hat. Bravo to the graphics team. Bravo. A crack-up job in just a short amount of time. All right let's go ahead to this weekend UFC 318 taking place at the Smoothie King Center down in New Orleans, Louisiana and they're there for one reason and one reason only. It's the final fight for Dustin the diamond Poirier he ends what has to be a Hall of Fame career don't care if he didn't get a belt there's not not even no question no zero debatable here's his resume and like you just have to like go
Starting point is 00:11:19 zoom mode like it's far back is that grispy the first one I think this is his entire UFC career all the way back to January if that bottom name and my vision sucks if that's Josh grisby then Josh that is full UFC it's just it is absolutely insane when you go through it this will be his 32nd walk to the octagon he has 11 knockouts he's got four submissions 22 wins 15 bonuses so essentially half the fights he gets into he's getting a $50,000 bonus. Okay. Let me put some more context about those numbers you just said. Same numbers, but I'm going to put some context. Please. The 22 wins. Yeah. That's tied for fifth all time
Starting point is 00:11:54 in UFC history. One of the people he's tied with, by the way, one Max Holloway. The 15 finishes. That's crazy. Yeah. Both of the 22 wins. This is going to come up again, by the way. The 15 finishes tied for fifth all time also. So he's fifth all time and wins fifth all times and finishes. He's third all time in knockouts with 11. I'll give you one guess who he's tied with on that as well. One Max Holloway. He's fifth all time for knockdowns with 14.
Starting point is 00:12:19 He's tied for fifth on that. He's tied for fourth all time for bonuses with 15 and he's eighth all time for significant strikes landed in UFC history. So not like the number one guy in any of these categories, but across the board in terms of delivering entertainment, delivering violence, and picking up UFC wins by finish, he is the cream of the crop.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He is in all these categories across the board. And to his credit, on the other side of the equation, Max Holloway is also a name that appears on a lot of these lists, which is what gets me excited about this fight. It feels like there's a peer there, right? Like it's equal footing, but yeah, Dustin Poirier's accolades are immeasurable. Like he, he is a no doubt, no brainer,
Starting point is 00:12:59 sure fire hall of famer. Like what he's done for the sport and you, you said it perfectly. Like they're on equal footing. That's what's so great is that his dance partner is incredible. It's not some guy like ranked 9th that like is on his way up anything like that. It is Max fucking Holloway that he's getting in there with for the third time. Yeah. Like intro'd Max the UFC, first fight in the UFC for Max. Now
Starting point is 00:13:18 last fight for Dustin is against Max and they had a war in the middle back in 2019. In which Dustin got his belt, his interim belt, but got his belt. Like we were talking before the show, it's just crazy how Max, essentially a lifetime at 145. Dustin started at 145, goes up to 155, but their careers are intertwined. Like the fact that this is their third fight
Starting point is 00:13:39 is just insane. It's a beautiful thing. Like utmost respect between the two guys, but they have a history. Yeah, they have a history. It's a beautiful thing. Like utmost respect between the two guys, but they have a history. Yeah, they have a history. It's, you said it great. You said it perfectly because they have a history while not really ever being in the same kind of like space.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Right? Like they had their fight at 45, but shortly after Dustin is now up at lightweight. Max goes on to be one of the best featherweights of all time, the featherweight champion. And then their careers reconnect at that moment where Dustin is fighting for the interim title and Max gets the crack.
Starting point is 00:14:12 But then they disconnect again. And now they're finally back together. It's kind of just been these moments where the three moments they intersect, they have a story and this trilogy has a story. And the moments that they don't, they have nothing. They have nothing in common. It's like they're just on these parallel paths,
Starting point is 00:14:27 separate from each other completely. Like watching the face-off, it's like, you almost think that it's just like their first time meeting, it's just like, nope, what's up, Max? We've already spent 25 minutes plus, the first fight didn't go long, but it's still part of their history,
Starting point is 00:14:42 and the fact that Poirier gave Max his first loss in his career, welcomed him to the UFC with a loss, ended his 13 fight win streak, denied him the chance of, of a two division championship for the interim belt. And now Max has a chance to spoil his retirement Dustin Poirier go out at home in the smoothie king center after little Wayne walks him out after just a coronation all week and say nah man you're gonna you're gonna end this one on an L like it's just it's beautiful the the storyline here the two fighters going at it like belts on the line silver on the line obviously is a big deal but uh like nothing needs to be on the line this is just
Starting point is 00:15:22 incredible from a story from a fight from every standpoint yeah and and as we talked about Dustin being a surefire Hall of Famer Max on the other side a surefire no doubt no brainer retires tomorrow has double the significant strikes of the next closest person he is the puncher of all time in the UFC he is the guy who has put up the most numbers like the the LeBron number that I don't think anybody's ever gonna be able to eclipse just because of the longevity. But yeah, two Hall of Fame guys meeting at a point where
Starting point is 00:15:53 while Dustin Poirier, it is his retirement, it does not feel to me like past his prime. It does not feel to me like this is a guy whose shelf life has expired and he's on the way out and it's like one last hurrah. It is one last hurrah, but only because he way out and it's like one last hurrah. It is one last hurrah but only because he is choosing for it to be one last hurrah which I think is super interesting as well. Back to the resume. The career of Dustin Poirier. On that list you saw two wins over Conor
Starting point is 00:16:16 McGregor, two wins over Max Holloway, wins over Eddie Alvarez, Anthony Pettis, Justin Gaethje, Michael Chandler, Dan Hooker, Jim Miller, Bobby Green, Diego Brandow, Joe Duffy, Diego Fajera, only fights the best of the best. Even in the losses, by the way, a loss to Islam. I was just gonna say, since the Michael Johnson loss, in 2016, almost a decade ago, four losses on his resume. Khabib Nurmagomedov, Charles Oliveira, Islam Magashev, Justin
Starting point is 00:16:45 Gagey. Yeah. Not a bad four to lose to. Yeah, the cream of the crop. Absolutely no shame in that. Is he the best fighter to never win an undisputed belt? In my opinion, yes, but I consider the interim belt a belt. There's this kind of like, there's this kind of feeling amongst certain people that like the interim title is not the title because it is created in the absence of the title and there's other business to handle and if you don't unify you are not the champion. But to me, interim title, number one contender, all these things are so close. They are such a signifier of you being
Starting point is 00:17:27 worthy of being at that level, that to me the fact that he has the interim but not the undisputed is really not significant to me. There are people who have held undisputed titles that are not nearly as good as Dustin Poirier, right? There are just people who have that accolade, who can say, I was the undisputed champion of the UFC But are not one-tenth the fighter of Dustin Poirier So if I'm going to only go like it's it's almost like the basketball rings culture shit It's like but do you have a ring? I mean no like, you know Charles Barkley and Allen Iverson don't have rings
Starting point is 00:17:58 But are you gonna deny that they are some of the most like important and influential and amazing basketball players of all time? No, and I feel that way about Dustin Poirier. He is a championship caliber fighter, even if he never held undisputed goals. Also, I know we clown on the BMF belt endlessly, and we know that it doesn't actually mean shit, but wouldn't it be kind of fitting for Dustin Poirier if he does get a win?
Starting point is 00:18:18 That's how he goes out. Yes, he never got the undisputed belt, but he was a badass motherfucker throughout his entire career. Was down to scrap with anyone, put on wars, put on entertaining fights, put everything on the line each time, like he is the embodiment of a BMF. Nobody looks at, whether you be a fan or you be a fighter, and looks at Dustin Poirier and go,
Starting point is 00:18:38 man, that guy fell short. That's not the conversation. That's just not the conversation when you talk about Dustin Poirier or watch his fights. Nothing about him to me goes, ah, he was good but not the conversation. That's just not the conversation when you talk about Dustin Poirier or watch his fights. Nothing about him to me goes, ah, he was good, but not good enough. Maybe he will carry the distinction of being the best guy to have never carried undisputed gold, but I almost feel like that's a category of one that doesn't even need to be addressed.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like, he is a championship caliber fighter. He proved it in that fight with Max Holloway. He proved it in the fight with Islam Makachev. I was going to say, he just unfortunately had to fight generational greats. That's it. Islam and Habib. In Habib, Islam and Charles. And even Charles is a winnable, I think Charles is a winnable fight for him.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I don't know if he runs it back with Islam and Habib if he wins that, you know, one out of the ten times. They probably win that because I think that highly of those two guys. I think Charles is a winnable fight. We have seen him beat Justin Gaethje. So we obviously know Justin Gaethje is a winnable fight. I just, he was in, he existed in an era where Habib was dominant and then Islam came and took the mantle from there basically. There was the run of Charles and he fell short in that era as well. But I do think if he gets another crack, there's definitely a chance that he can beat a that era as well. But I do think if he gets another crack, there's definitely a chance that he can beat a Charles Oliver there.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Absolutely, he was a slight favorite in that. Khabib in Islam, he was like a plus 330 and like a plus 380. Yeah, it's a different situation altogether. With enough chances, you have to imagine he would have been able to achieve that. But again, I don't think that that's the story of Dustin Poirier.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I don't care at all that he did not capture it. It seems to me that he's kind of at peace with that. The idea that he would walk away, knowing how close that fight was with Islam, and now that Islam's out of the division, there's a new champion and he's still walking away, to me I'm happy to see that, because I'm happy that he's at peace with his career.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And as he should be, as we've laid out, Surefire Hall of Famer, Records Galore, High galore highlight reel I have a tweet that I kept bumping up since like it's either 2017 or 2019 that Dustin Poirier is going to have one of the best highlight reels of all time when the career is said and done we're finally here at the point where the career is said and done and I've been proven to be right this man's highlight reel is gonna be up there in the pantheon of anybody's highlight reel. The number of wars he engaged in, the swag with which he carried himself, his innate ability to try to seek finishes, his
Starting point is 00:20:52 finishing ability. He's a legend of the game and he's one of the guys that if you were a fighter you'd want to have Dustin Poirier's career, belt or no belt. Yeah absolutely. I think Bryce Mitchell one time was just like, if I'm getting into a fight with someone and I you gotta I gotta choose anybody on earth to fight with I wanted to be Dustin Poirier. God damn right. He's like I don't give a fuck about the belt that's the guy that I want in the trenches with me. Also I'm glad he's not hanging around anymore because it's just like even if he got another crack of the belt it's just like oh here's another generational great. Oh yeah just only it's Poirier.ia. It's just like 155 is just a slaughter.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's just like unbelievable fighter after unbelievable fighter. If you were holding that 155 belt, you are incredibly special. You talked about the highlight reel, like what he's been able to do in the octagon, how he chases finishes, how he just is game as game comes. Dustin Poirier, game. There is no argument about that.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Best fights of his career, the ones that you enjoyed the most. I had to go back and watch a couple and I had watched Poirier Max 2 live and had it watched it since and you were rewatching some of it and you were like, when was the last time you watched that? I was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:21:59 probably it was just when it was live. And you were like, you gotta go back and watch this thing. So top five? I got three. Okay. I could go five, but I feel like there's a big distinction between the top three. For me, there's three clear ones. Okay. And then after that, there's a bunch that are just kind of like there
Starting point is 00:22:16 that I, that I'll take any of them. Do we, how do we do it? Alternate? Yeah. Three, three first. Yeah. Three first, three first. Conor McGregor, two, The knockout in Abu Dhabi. It's hard to cut it to three.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. Well, for me, I feel like there's a... We'll talk about it as we go. Number three for me is Conor McGregor in Abu Dhabi. He had every excuse in the world. He had every reason to fold in that scenario, right? Conor was the one who took him out last time, and the pressure of fighting Conor McGregor is immense, right? It comes with this thing that is not the same as fighting everybody else. The spectacle, the attention, the pressure that comes
Starting point is 00:22:57 with that is completely different from every other fight, and it would have been easy for Dustin to just fold in that scenario, and instead he just summoned the dog and took Connor out the first knockout of Connors career just iced him. Incredible performance just rose to the occasion and put him in put him in a stratosphere that he had not been previously it really was like a career defining type of thing and I loved that moment. The the lead-up was interesting because of how cordial they were with each other. Then the third one got significantly more testy.
Starting point is 00:23:29 But yeah, the Connor McGregor was like, definitely the high mark in terms of Dustin's notoriety and the attention that he was getting. The win over Connor was significant. I'm also gonna go with that as three. Not much else to add after what you just said. Just the achievement in and of itself was amazing. And that follows it up. The way he did it.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Dude, the way he did it, the picture that comes out of it is like Connor, like on the octagon, like the sleeping, everything like that. And like, we haven't seen Connor in four years and he got injured in the third fight, like the shin snaps and everything like that. But like at the time, he was a year removed from fighting Donald Cerrone,
Starting point is 00:24:04 which he knocked out in like a minute. So we were like, oh, Connor is back. He was a sizable favor going into that second Dustin Poirier fight. It was an upset. All right, your number two. Why don't you do two since I did three? My number two is Poirier Holloway too.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Yeah, same. Okay. I almost had it won, but I have it too. We talked about it before the show. Like it gets overshadowed by the co-main event of Stylebender and Kelvin Gaslum, just the war that they put on. It was kind of like, how do I even,
Starting point is 00:24:33 and this is at a time where I was not watching every UFC card, but I was an Adesanya fan, tuned into this one because of our good friend TST, shout out to Troy. And the war that happened, it was almost just like you needed a bathroom break and then you come back and it's like, oh yeah, here we go, Dustin and Max. And like immediately on the gas pedal, Dustin Poirier from Round 1 comes out hot and it's just an all-time scrap. Yeah and I think it's a little bit lost in history for one, what you said, right? Like
Starting point is 00:25:01 the come down from the fight that went into the Hall of Fame this year between Israel Adesanya and Kelvin Gastelum you it's hard to follow that act because of the way that it was such a knockdown scrap the famously it's the Israel Adesanya saying he's ready to die in that moment but if you if you go back and watch that fight for one goddamn Dustin Poirier's first round is a thing of beauty like he is he is putting it on max i think he threw something like 60 strikes in that first round and that's and by the way that's like the max mo right not the dustin mo dustin was trying to get him out of there and like kind of hurt him like the joe rogans like we've never seen max all the way hurt like this
Starting point is 00:25:41 yeah he hurt him bad and it shows how good dust Dustin is because that was, you know, Max and his chin hasn't even been cracked at that point. Round two, it starts to get a little closer. Round three, it starts to get a little more toward Max now. Now we start to see the pressure increase from Max. All of a sudden, when you're Dustin Poirier, you empty that gas tank in the first. It's hard to be in there with the guy who puts up against Calvocator 500 strikes, right?
Starting point is 00:26:04 Like, Max Holloway is a demon when it comes to that volume. So all of a sudden as this fight starts to progress, it gets a little bit further. But to his credit, the scorecards were 49, 46. It felt closer than a 49, 46 because of how close every round was. But I have no issue with the 49, 46. But if you go back and watch that fight,
Starting point is 00:26:22 that was two guys just in there, ready to scrap in a way that Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier always have been as fighters. They've always been game in that way. And an incredible performance by Dustin, man, because Max usually melts people. Max, especially at that time, I think his style has changed a little bit,
Starting point is 00:26:40 but especially at that time, with the volume that he puts up, Dustin had to keep up with him. And he ended up throwing, I think, I think he ended up landing 186 strikes or something crazy. His highest- 178. Yeah, his highest number by far.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You mentioned the first round, lands 54 through 115 in that first round. Yeah, that's nuts. That's nuts for Dustin, right? For Max, you'd probably go like, okay, maybe there's a round or two that he does. But for Dustin, that's an insanely high number because he really had max hurt and was trying to finish him Uh a great fight all the way through had moments where max had Dustin hurt because Dustin's still trying to finish the fight third fourth round
Starting point is 00:27:16 And max is catching him with counters that sting him a little bit has him up against the fence Just unloading on him max starts to gain the A truly, truly great fight between two great fighters and why I'm so excited for the third, but my number two, Holloway versus Poirier too. Number one, we might go the same way, Poirier gate two one. Oh. That's what I'm going with. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:39 What are you going with? That would have been my number four. Poirier hooker? Poirier hooker. Oh, in the apex, you can hear every single shot, the shit talking at the end. The shit talking at the end kind of put it over the top That's been my number four. Poirier Hooker? Poirier Hooker. Oh, in the apex, you can hear every single shot, the shit talking at the end. The shit talking at the end kind of put it over the top
Starting point is 00:27:48 for me when Dustin's really rubbing it in Dan's face and Dan's like, yo, what the fuck, we just went to war, like give me a break here. Yeah. But that was, like I talked about the Conner fight being a coming out party for Dustin. For me, that was also another coming out party. Like Dustin stamped himself.
Starting point is 00:28:05 The eyes of the world were on. That was at a time when those Apex shows were must see as opposed to what they've become now. June of 2020. And the brutality of that fight I think lives on in history. Like everybody talks about being able to hear the blows between the two. One of the all time like knock down, drag out,
Starting point is 00:28:24 banger type fights another worthy adversary. How many times as we're going through this are we like Dan Hooker, Justin Gaethje, Max Holloway, Eddie Alvarez. Like it's just dog after dog. Alright dog. So this is what I that's what I wanted to say. The the Gaethje Poirier 1 I actually was not watching live. This was like before I became a die hard fan and I rewatched it before Poirier Gaethje 2 and I was like wow this Porier won, I actually was not watching live. This was before I became a diehard fan. And I rewatched it before Porier to Gagee too and I was like, wow, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And then I watched a highlight reel of it. Just the fact that Porier gets him out of there in the fourth round. Like it is a drag out war and then Porier gets him out of there in the fourth round. It was just, it's electric. I had Hooker at four, but this run that Porier goes on, November of 2017, Pettis knocks him out,
Starting point is 00:29:06 Gagey, the one that I just mentioned in April of 2018, knocks him out, fights Eddie Alvarez, knocks him out, goes to UD with Max Holloway in a fight of the year contender, second only to the co-main of that card. Then he fights Habib for the title, unfortunately comes up short. Then he goes and does the Dan Hooker fight in 2020. Then he does Conor McGregregor, Connor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Yeah. Insane run. He goes seven and one through that stretch. Yeah. That is fucking. So that, that's the part to me where you go, ah, but he never had undisputed gold. And I'm just like, don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Who fucking cares? Like who fucking cares? If you look at that run, that is championship level fighting right there. The only thing I'll say is just like, it's like, God, could you imagine if he had beaten Charles in 2021? It would have been fantastic. He would have gone, McGregor win, McGregor win,
Starting point is 00:29:55 beating Charles Oliver for the belt. Yeah. God, fighter of the year. It would have truly been special. One of the best years in the UFC history would have been. But that's the one step falling short to me doesn't change a thing. What was your fifth if you could do a five?
Starting point is 00:30:10 Maybe, hmm. There's a lot in the- Oh, mine's easy. You tell me. Michael Chandler, MSG. That's a great one. Back and forth scrap, Michael Chandler, it was like winning that fight.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It was a scrap and then he ends up choking him out and then the shit talking at the end, this is my house, oh, MSG's your house? Man, shut the fuck up. That's the birth of who the fuck is we. It is the birth of who the fuck is we. To me, the better, I like the shit talk in the hooker one a little bit better at the end.
Starting point is 00:30:42 No, I agree with you. I thought A, that was a better fight, it was a five round war, and B. I thought A, that was a better fight. It was a five round war. And B, I thought the shit talking was better. But at number five for me is Chandler. Yeah, you know, for me it's probably Saint Denis. It's probably Saint Denis. Oh yeah, I mean him putting out like, and this was like-
Starting point is 00:31:00 Because of how dicey it looked in that first. How dicey it looked in the first and how much of a just like world beater BSD looked like this was, this was supposed to be the way most UFC fighters go out. This was supposed to be. Thank you for your service, Dustin. You are, you are now going to be sacrificed at the altar of Benoit Saint Denis. And we are going to build a superstar off your back. And he just completely flipped that script, goes on to then fight for a title after that. So I think I have that one ahead of Chandler, but I was cage-side for that Chandler one. But this is the thing with Dustin Poirier's career. You could do 10. You could go 10 deep and just be like... Now, once you
Starting point is 00:31:42 start getting past 6, 7, 8, 9, ten, it just becomes first round, second round knockouts repourriere and it's not that like war back and forth. But God, when he's firing, when he's on, the shit is beautiful. It truly is. It's beautiful, man. It's beautiful. We get to see him one more time this weekend against Max Hollis, UFC 318, main event, BMF belt on the line, Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, Lil Wayne walking him out. It's storybook. Like this, this is everything he could have asked for and more. The only thing I hope, I'm praying, just let this be it. Take this one. I agree. Win-lose. Please just let it, let it be the one. Don't, don't, don't come back. Even if you come out and have the best performance
Starting point is 00:32:27 of your career and you win in this incredible fight and then you get on the mic with Joe Rogan and be like, you know, maybe I'm not done. Nah, like I agree. Let this be it. Let this be it. I agree. Max this time, as opposed to last time,
Starting point is 00:32:41 has had time to fully develop into a 155 er when you look at that last fight First of all, it feels like a lifetime ago. It was six years ago Very different life when you look at that last fight. He just looks doughy like it's not max Holloway It's clearly max Holloway who was not like prepping to be a 50 fiber like clearly then you look at the max Holloway that's up Then they're against Justin Gagee and you're like, oh shit yeah, like there's a stark difference between those two and Just by the face off that we saw earlier this week Max looks like a thick boy. Like he he looks like he is a proper 155 Not the guy that was a little bit pudgy and he ain't going back. He's let it be known
Starting point is 00:33:22 He's not going back to 145. He is now a full-time 155er. And Max is just like, one of those guys that's just like, oh yeah, he's only 33 years old. Holy shit. He's been fighting for an eternity and he is only 33 years old. He could go on to have an unbelievable career at lightweight. I mean, fuck man.
Starting point is 00:33:42 He could end up landing 5,000 strikes. I wouldn't even be shocked at all. Like that, he could end up landing 5,000 strikes. I wouldn't be shocked at all. Like that, he could end up setting a bar that's just like, nah man. Nobody's ever touching it. No one's touching that thing. Like no one will ever even have the volume to do it. How do we see it playing out?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Everything is perfect for Dustin Poirier, but his Mac's there to sour the party. I've gone back and forth on this a few times. I started I Started with Dustin. I started with Hey, I saw that last fight While I appreciate what Max was able to do Dustin was the more powerful hitter and Dustin was closer to kind of getting him out of there and then he won 49 46 I Was like, okay, then I started convincing myself 46 I was like okay then I started convincing
Starting point is 00:34:25 myself I was like shit man that wasn't a proper 55 max now he looks he looks a lot bigger a lot stronger you saw the performance against Gagey who isn't exactly a similar style to to pori a but is a similar has creates a similar threat right he creates that similar amount of pressure in a different way, right? It's more of the mixing of the leg kicks and the other things that Gagee does, but he creates that pressure that Dustin also creates
Starting point is 00:34:54 where it's just like, you feel like you're kind of suffocating, you kind of can't get out from under it. And we saw Max kind of handle that actually, we saw him. And by the way, Ilya Toporia creates that pressure as well. And Max did well against I to poor you in that way. So I started convincing myself. I was like shit, maybe, you know, he's the younger man, even though they have a similar number of miles, right?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Max has been in this game a long time as as Dustin, but maybe maybe the younger man who is properly preparing his body for 155 is gonna get it done this time. Now I'm kind of just in this moment and I don't know what I'm gonna ultimately be at come fight night. Now I'm kind of back at the Dustin Poirier. The power and the technique is so good, the boxing is so fucking crispy, that I think he will be able to handle Max's attack. If Max can't threat, I don't think Max was going to knock out Justin Gagee until that very last moment, right?
Starting point is 00:35:59 There was danger in that fight, but there wasn't a point in the fight where I was like, fuck, Max is gonna finish Gagee here, until that last moment when Gagey's throwing and Max is throwing and the hands are down and Max does what Max does. If he can't get Dustin Poirier out of there, the harder, stiffer shots are going to be landed by Poirier. Now, when I was, you know, a little while ago convinced that Max was gonna win, that that volume that pressure is gonna be hard for Dustin to handle But he's shown he can handle it. In fact, I was looking at the stats and this was something that convinced me a little bit is Max regularly is landing hundred two hundred significant strikes, right? That's just how he does. That's what he does
Starting point is 00:36:40 But you look at Dustin Poirier's Resume and it doesn't have a lot of fights like that. In fact, the only times he's landed more than a hundred significant strikes are three fights Came close against Jim Miller with 97, but here's where the times that he's landed over a hundred significant strikes 174 Justin Gaethje 178 Max Holloway 153 Dan Hooker three wars Max Holloway, 153, Dan Hooker. Three wars, three that he came out on the winning side. To me, I'm starting to get the sense of like,
Starting point is 00:37:11 yes, Max can press him, but if Max presses him, what Dustin Poirier has shown is he meets it. He equals the output, he equals the pressure, he equals the volume, and he's the more powerful guy, which has proven to be true in these times that he's kind of impressed in this way So I'm starting to think like yeah, fuck. I think Dustin is gonna do it. I think Max is gonna give him I think Max is better is the gap between the
Starting point is 00:37:39 2019 max and the 2025 max is Bigger like he has improved more than I think Dustin has improved since 2019. I think Dustin was as good as in 2019 as he is now. Maybe, maybe he even got a little bit better and maybe came down a little bit, but I think the gap is smaller. Whereas with Max, I think he's significantly better than he was in 2019. I think it's going to be a better fight. It's going to be a better performance by Max. Interesting. But I even on 13 fight win streak. Yeah, that was not the best version of Max.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Okay. Max, at that time, Max was getting by purely on that volume. Max was getting by on just being like, yeah, I'm gonna throw 300 strikes and you're fucked. Like that's basically the game plan for Max Holloway. He's gotten, those Valk fights, especially like each version of Max in each of those Valk fights was a completely different guy. He's added so
Starting point is 00:38:27 much more to his game. His footwork is better. His mixing of kicks is better. He's such a more well-rounded striker. I view him significantly better. Dustin kind of just sharpened the tools. Dustin kind of just like cleaned up the things that he was already good at. He's always kind of been that sharp technical boxer. The leg kicks maybe came along a little bit more. But I think Max is way different of a fighter than he was in 2019. I do wonder though if he'll be enough.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Sitting here right now in this moment, I don't. I think Dustin will meet Max's volume and actually be the more powerful guy. Yeah, I mean I think he's going to have to. Like I think- Well yeah, if Max is throwing, you need to throw. Because otherwise you're cooked. Yeah. I think he's going to also just because think well, yeah If max is throwing you need to throw cuz yeah, otherwise you're you're cooked I think he's going to also just because a his fighting style like you mentioned like he's just game to be able to do that That's how he's going to try to win the fight
Starting point is 00:39:12 But I also just think he's going to approach this fight of just like this is it man. This is the one We're emptying the tank. We we're going hard and also I think the crowd is going to push Dustin Poirier Like I think that I think that's movie King Center is going to be going crazy and it really is going to push Dustin Poirier. I think that Smoothie King Center is going to be going crazy and it really is going to turn into a war. You mentioned the Volkanovsky fight. I cannot believe that the third one has been three years ago. He goes 0-3 in that trilogy. Going into that third fight, he was like a plus 140.
Starting point is 00:39:36 A lot of people were on the side of, Max is gonna get his belt back, Max is gonna get his belt back. He gets 50-45 in that trilogy. Is there any concern that these guys fight Max three times and they just haven't figured out at that point? The three VULK fights were in such a short span that there is a lot of time to download data
Starting point is 00:39:58 and do those types of things, and a similar fighter is walking in there. Game plans were different, but Max as a human was quite similar. The first- He has had those three Vogue fights since the last time he fought Poirier. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:11 1920 and 22. That first Poirier-Max fight, I kind of throw it in the garbage. It is such a different thing from what we saw in 2019 and what I expect we will see in 2025. I don't even consider that part of, now granted, I'm not trying to say that to say like, I'm taking it away from Dustin.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Dustin is 2-0 in this trilogy, make no mistake about it. And that's significant. But that was 2012. But it was such a long time ago, it's Max Holloway's debut. That is not even remotely the same guy that we've seen. Champion caliber, Max Holloway. So I kind of discount that. Your question of like, hey, at a certain point, if you've been able to be in there with Max Holloway, have you figured out Max Holloway. So I kind of discount that. Your question of like, hey, at a certain point,
Starting point is 00:40:46 if you've been able to be in there with Max Holloway, have you figured out Max Holloway? Maybe, maybe, but stylistically, Max is, the issue with Max is not like, do I know Max's tricks? Everybody kind of knows Max's tricks. The issue against Max Holloway is, can I withstand the wave, the tsunami of punches that is coming at me? Can I withstand that pressure? Dustin's pressure is different. Dustin's pressure is like, he's pressing you and he's throwing these shots to set up a big one that he knows he's going to be able to take you out with. Max's pressure is just, holy shit, can I even reset to throw something? Can I even like figure out a moment to have a breath to take
Starting point is 00:41:25 to figure out how to throw something? And in the second fight, Dustin found those moments, especially when he was on the aggressive. When Max is on the front foot, you're kind of like, oh shit. When Dustin was on the front foot, he had Max in some real dangerous spots. So if Dustin can be first and Dustin can match Max's volume, it's his fight to lose, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But man, like, Max only being 33 can match Max's volume, it's his fight to lose in my opinion. But man, like, Max only being 33 and growing into his man body now is like, holy shit. Like I don't know, maybe we haven't even seen the best Max Holloway and that's scary. Could you imagine? If he's just better. Is there any concern of the chin being cracked? Gets it done once against Delia? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Now it starts to fade? Yes. There is concern for me for that. You talk about the volume, right? Like it's just like, oh, I'm just gonna fucking pump volume and you're fucked. But to do that, he also relied a lot on his chin. 100%, and if you watch that second Poirier fight, he's eating shots from Poirier
Starting point is 00:42:18 that like most people go down from, but also that is what allows him to stay in that fight and throw back, you're 100% right. The chin is been the key to the volume for Max Holloway. He took some, he took some really nasty shit from Ilya even before the knockout punch and the chin still seemed to be there. The Max Holloway that we were familiar with was still there for, for, from my eyes. I think it's one of those where it's probably closer to like Volkanovsky where you got caught
Starting point is 00:42:43 by the guy who has the nuclear power then he gets in there with Diego Lopez now granted he had also right before that got caught by Islam Makachev I'm talking about Volkanovsky again but he steps in there with a guy like Diego Lopez who was also known for his finishing ability and it's like no he's just eating clean shots there's I think to me there's levels and Ilya Toporia is at a level that like isn't the same as as most other people I also think Ilya Toporia is at a level that isn't the same as most other people. I also think Ilya Toporia is a little bit harder of a puzzle and a little bit craftier. And so I expect that Max's chin will hold up.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Would I be surprised if Dustin's accumulation of power shots by the end maybe is able to falter Max? I wouldn't. I also wouldn't be surprised on the other side of it if Dustin's been in a lot of wars too and we've seen him on the wrong end of knockouts. He talked about how deep and dark that hole got after the Justin Gaethje knockout. And that was that was out bad. And having to crawl back from that. So it's not like these guys are unfamiliar with that territory. My concern for the knockout is not that I'm concerned Max will get knocked out. My concern is more on the perspective of will Max fight differently? If Max fights differently, that's bad. That's bad because Max Holloway has been very successful at being Max Holloway.
Starting point is 00:43:52 If that, if going out like that changes how he fights, that is a different conversation and that would be one that would give me a lot of pause. Because this is the first time we're seeing him. You just gave a fantastic breakdown. You broke it down beautifully. You mentioned previous fights, things that need to change. You brought up the stats, everything like that. You can give your winner in a second.
Starting point is 00:44:12 My breakdown is essentially, it's Dustin Poirier fighting in New Orleans in the Smoothie King Center. Lil Wayne's walking him out. It's the final dance. Like who am I to go against Dustin Poirier here? I love Max Holloway, love Max Holloway to death. He's just always fighting guys that I also love.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like, it's just like, he's always getting into wars with guys that I love, love Max Holloway here, but like, I cannot back Max Holloway, and then if Dustin Poirier wins, sit there and be like, what the fuck was I doing? Like, I'm such a loser. The vibes are so on Poirier's side. If I'm just looking at the vibes,
Starting point is 00:44:44 he's going to the Saints facility, chilling with Cam Jordan, he's getting a paid in full custom UFC 318 Saints jersey. I mean, the card is here for him. They created a pay-per-view for him. They were like, yeah, we'll put the BMF belt on the line by giving you a trilogy with Max Holloway, and we'll do it in your home state of Louisiana. Yep, sure, we hate when people walk out with musical artists.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Go ahead and walk out with Lil Wayne. Like this is all for him. It's his show, yeah. The vibes are for him. That's why I'm picking Dustin Bordia. Don't blame ya. I will say though, sometimes when they set that up like that, it feels like the most inevitable, like,
Starting point is 00:45:18 spoil it. And I'll live with that. I'll live with that. If he goes out on his sword, I'll be like, you know what? That's what had to happen. And also we love Max Holloway. It's one of those. Love Max Holloway. This is not an original thought, but this is one where you want nobody to lose. Like everybody loves both of these guys. It's a fan favorite fight. Right now, this moment, I have swung back to Poirier. By Saturday, there's a real chance I swing back to Max. I just, it's such an even, it's such a close fight. And the, I can see the path to victory for both
Starting point is 00:45:49 so clearly and they play into each other. So interestingly, I may change my mind again. I, we do like staff picks. Yeah. I submitted Poirier. I switched to max. I will, I will switch back to Poirier, but maybe I'll just wait until Saturday. I think she, I think she finalized them. You're locked with this. I think she's locked with this. I submitted Poirier. I switched to Max. I will switch back to Poirier.
Starting point is 00:46:06 But maybe I'll just wait until Saturday. I think Shaheen finalized them. You're locked with whatever you have. No, I'm gonna switch it. No, he's already published the article. I'm reading it right here. Staff picks UFC on Crown. It's going to be an incredible fight.
Starting point is 00:46:18 You can say whatever you want about this pay-per-view. Yes, maybe it's not like the highest quality one. Yes, there's no title fights on it, everything everything like that this main event is going to be incredible even if even if we see like a Gachey Poirier 2 thing first of all that was insane in and of itself but like the build-up the moment when he's making the walk the post fight interview win or lose the package that I'm sure they're going to have it is going to be a spectacle, it's going to be incredible and I cannot wait for it.
Starting point is 00:46:47 In the lead up, go watch some of those fights that we mentioned. Pay homage to this man, Dustin Poirier, go watch Fightville. If you really wanna see how much mud this man has been through to this point, go watch Fightville, one of the best sports documentaries period, not just MMA. And just appreciate it, man.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Last time we get to see the Diamond Walk, last time we get to see one of the greatest to ever do it, fuck the undisputed, it's gonna be incredible. I cannot wait for Saturday and he has a perfect dance partner in Max Holloway, finishing off a trilogy here. It's gonna be electric, I can't wait. Amen, amen. All right, let's go to the co-main event, Roman Kapilov.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Wait, should I do this? Hello fellow children. Yeah, nothing like being 38? 38 come- August 1st? August 1st. 38 come August 1st. We hit a little run of, speaking of, birthdays.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Shout out, Pizza Carol, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Pizza Carol. Haewani's dad, I think is also today. Yes. My nephew on Saturday. Happy birthday. Uncle, grandma, Jordan, Ariel, July stacks, but you're August 1st.
Starting point is 00:47:48 That gene, don't forget that gene. You guys forgot Frank. Jordan, Frank's birthday is ever present. It never ends. It's like a rash. Camera guy Nick at the beginning of August, one of my friends who lives here, Carson also at the beginning of August,
Starting point is 00:48:02 my cousin at the beginning of August. It's right in that little mix. Busy stretch. What's nine months before this? Halloween? Is that the busy season? What are you, star sign wise, astrology? Cancer. Okay, so cancer and then Leo. All right. Shout out. All right, co-main event Paolo Costa taking on Roman Kapilov. Costa is one in four since 2019. Yeah. Now with that said, his losses are to Sean Strickland,
Starting point is 00:48:30 champion, Robert Whitaker, champion, Marvin Mottori, title challenger, Israel Adesanya, champion, one win being over Luke Rockhold in his final fight in the UFC. Kopilov, six and one in his last seven, not quite the same level of competition. Chris Curtis, Caesar Almeida, Josh Fremd, Claudio Haberio, Puna Soriano, and Alesso Di Cicchio.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Very different levels of comp. Certainly that, but I do feel like, are the best moments behind Paulo Costa and are the best moments ahead for Roman Kapilov. Now- And they're both 34. I was gonna say, not a spring chicken. It feels like the ship's passing in the night ordeal.
Starting point is 00:49:15 They're both 34. A finish of Chris Curtis to me at this point in 2025 is more significant than any of the recent work of Paulo Costa. And it's not the resume, it's not the names on the resume, to me that's the problem, it is the complete lack of urgency, like in that Strickland fight, it just never looked like he was getting out of gear,
Starting point is 00:49:36 like and that's a real problem, like he's talked about it in the past about like trying to get that old Paulo Costa back because the guy who was in there walking down Yo Romero at the time Joel Romero was like the Terminator and he's walking him down and smiling in his face and just bombing on him. That guy hasn't been seen in a while, right? And so, or the guy that in the lead up to the Israel-Ada-Sanya fight had been taking out everybody. We haven't seen that guy in a minute. And so if Paulo Costa is at his best
Starting point is 00:50:08 and in a return to form, he's probably better than Kapilov. But I can't confidently say now sitting here, like that we have seen that guy in a long time and I'm concerned about that. If that guy shows up, it's a much more interesting fight. If he doesn't, I think Kapilov will win this fight. Okay, you actually mentioned that
Starting point is 00:50:25 and he did an interview with Ariel earlier this week and he said the old Paulo Costa needs to come back. I need to bring that old guy out. Not to rip on Paulo Costa, but he has said that before and the old Paulo Costa did not come back out. And it was just like, we have to see it to know that he's back. That's my fear.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And then, so I side with Kapilov at this moment. Like I just don't, until proven otherwise, I need to see, if that version of Kosta shows up, and I hope it does, because I think it would make for a fantastic fight. The eraser. We'll call it the eraser. There's Paulo Kosta and there's the eraser.
Starting point is 00:50:54 If the eraser comes back, if that guy returns, yeah, this is gonna be a scrap. Because that dude throws hands, and has a lot of power. If he doesn't, I just don't see how he wins. The volume is too low. He poses too much. He's standing there kind of watching. Like Shawn Strickland was able to just do whatever he kind of wanted to him at a certain point. Roman Kapila put a volume in his last fight against Chris Curtis.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Yeah. He went to takedowns against Cesar Almeyda. I do feel like he has a complete game and it's just hard not to imagine at this point in his career that he's in a better position to get this win than Paulo Costa. Agreed. I feel the same. I think this fight has potential to be a sick scrap, but could also be sort of like a kickboxing match
Starting point is 00:51:35 that never really gets going in the second gear. I think Kapilov is enough of a finisher, like enough of a guy who's trying to hunt something that it probably ends but I don't know. We'll see. Alright, future bout of the evening. Kevin Holland taking on D-Rod, Daniel Rodriguez. This is Kevin Holland's fourth fight of the year already. We're not even to August and he's ranked now. Kevin Holland coming in here as the 13th ranked welterweight in the world. Do you think he cares? No. You think he's like, I finally got a number next month.
Starting point is 00:52:05 If it means more money, yeah. Yeah, if he can get paid more money for it. This one, D-Rod, we were there in Des Moines. He had a fantastic win over Santiago, Ponsonibio, I believe it was. Yeah. But man, Kevin Holland, he's looked good since the RDR loss back in January.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And that loss has aged fairly well already are now getting a scrap with Robert Whitaker in Abu Dhabi in a few weeks. I just feel like Kevin Hollands too young, too tall, too rangey, too tough. I just feel like it almost feels like D rod strengths. Cause I feel like it's just going to be a striking match. Kevin Hollands just like, Oh, well I do that too. I'm just a little bit better. I'm a little bit faster. I'm a little bit faster.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I'm a little bit longer. Everything he's good at, Holland is better. So yeah, I side with Holland here. The line feels a little bit crazy just because like. It's getting blown up. It's like I'm seeing like Kevin Holland up to like minus 500, like it opened at like minus 280 or something. That's the part that feels dicey to me just because like
Starting point is 00:53:02 Kevin Holland has proven throughout his career to like sometimes be like a Killer and sometimes completely duff it But that's not that's not to say that I don't think he has major advantages over D Right, I think as you said everywhere that D rod is good. Kevin Holland is is quite a bit better So I side with Kevin Holland, but he finds ways to like do weird shit sometimes Which is why yeah, a lot of laying 500 on minus 500 on him is a bit odd. But yeah, I think this is Kevin Holland's fight to lose.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Another one that can just turn into a scrap. It can absolutely turn into a fantastic fight. Uh, fourth one down on the main car, Danny Egate taking on Patricio Pitbull and in what is shaping up to be a very important fight for the career of one Patricio Pitbull second fight in the UFC just turned 38 gets a top five guy in Yair when he, when he made his debut. Now they're giving him a, a top 15 guy in Dan Ege. But man, if you start owing to at 38,
Starting point is 00:53:55 you're not on a good trajectory here in your UFC career. No, and important for Ege too. Like the recent, the recent run for Ege hasn't been fantastic. Like the performance against what's it was great. But before that two losses, then a win, then a loss, then two wins, then three losses, like he hasn't been able to like write the ship. And so this is a big opportunity for him. Stylistically, I think this is going to be a tough fight for people.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Like I think people's great. I picked them against Yair cause I thought we'd see the version of people that we had seen in the past. And it just was not that guy. Hopefully we will see much more of a return to form, maybe he's just you know past it maybe the maybe the better the best years were are behind him now. I mean he's 38 fighting 145 and Danny Gay is not the guy to to try to find your footing against right like the Yair fight was tough to then jump right back in again against a guy like
Starting point is 00:54:45 Danny Gay to me that doesn't feel like a soft landing that doesn't feel like a like let me get my feet back under me fight because you know from minute one Danny Gay is gonna be pressing forward winging hook so I don't like this I don't like this as as pitbulls return fight if I'm being completely honest I think this is a not enough of a step down from Yair. I think of Danny Gay as right under that, and I don't know that this is gonna be a soft landing. I'm siding with E. Gay pretty definitively.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Danny Gay is, A, tough as fuck, he's never been finished, and B, he's that guy that people always talk about, just like, yeah, you wouldn't expect it, but that dude hits so hard. Hits like a fucking truck. He hits so hard. And always talk about, just like, he wouldn't expect it, but that dude hits so hard. It's like a fucking truck. He hits so hard. And yeah, at 38, man, I don't think he's gonna get Ige out of there,
Starting point is 00:55:30 so I think he's gonna have to go 15 hard with him. The game plan's gonna have to be different from the one we saw at UFC 314. Yeah, well, I don't know if we saw a game plan. Was there anything from that fight that you can take away as a positive? No. To me, you have to erase that.
Starting point is 00:55:45 You have to erase that one and go, okay, this guy I saw in Bellator was a completely different guy, the guy who's fighting Michael Chandler. That was not the guy that we saw against Yagier. Maybe it was Octagon Jitters. Maybe it was something else, whatever it was. Erase that one. If we see that guy, then it's going to be a
Starting point is 00:56:00 different fight. But ultimately like, I don't love this at this point in his career for, for a pit bullbull facing Ige but I could be wrong this could be a moment where Pitbull does regain his legs ultimately though I think it's gonna be very hard against Danny Ige so I side with I said with Ige. Sam let's go first fight on the main card Michael Johnson taking on Daniel Zellhuber this is one of those ones 13 year age gap this is one of those ones where it's like Michael Johnson's probably gonna be losing this fight
Starting point is 00:56:26 unless. Unless he kills him. Unless he kills him, man. He is actually on a two fight win streak. And the craziest part, he was favored in both those fights. That's not a position you see Michael Johnson in too many times. Favored in both those fights.
Starting point is 00:56:40 The two fight win streak puts him at exactly 15 and 15 in his UFC career. This is a chance for him exactly 15 and 15 in his UFC career. This is a chance for him to go above 500 in his UFC career with a dub here. I'll be at uphill sledding, 13 years younger, and we saw last time out Daniels L. Huber. He's down to scrap, man. One of the scraps of the year.
Starting point is 00:56:57 He is down to scrap. I think that one fight of the year against that's the one. Against a lot of people, yeah. In the sphere card. Unbelievable fight. I feel like he's only getting better. He's coming into his own, uh, 26 years old. I think he's just improving with each fight.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I, I have to, I have to side with Zoe, you were here, but again, one of those ones that like, I can't definitively say like these four fights on the main card that aren't the main event, I cannot definitively say. You have a feeling, but you're not like a hundred percent on it. Well, not just about the winner, but like, this is going to be a banger. I'm like, it could be. It might be a banger.
Starting point is 00:57:32 We're going to have to tune in on the chance that it is, but like any four of these, there's no way we're going to go four for four on bangers. Any four of these could turn out. It's just like, whoa, that was a sick fight. Or like, that was a stinker all right that was kind of a stinker huh how many total strikes between them you're seven you're not wrong it's you look it's because of the names involved
Starting point is 00:57:52 the ones that you expect to win here also still have spotty records like that like Zell Huber is not like a guy who you think of as invincible like he we he has shown the flaws before and people have been able to exploit it, but you go, ah, he should be able to win against Michael Johnson. But then it's like, ah, Michael Johnson finds a way to kill people sometimes. Sometimes, like it's just like,
Starting point is 00:58:12 oh, that guy's dead and Michael Johnson's celebrating. Just as Dustin Borey in 2016. Yeah, exactly. I agree with you. This is gonna be like either chaotic or weird. Like there's gonna be some weird vibes. And then we get to the main event and everything's gonna be fine. It's the middle of the summer, we just had a great International Fight Week card. Like this is one that, let's just wait and see. I'll tell you which
Starting point is 00:58:36 one's a guaranteed scrap. Featured about of the evening? Featured Brelin? Lock Dog? People's main event? And Kyler Phillips. I think this is the... It's hard to put anything, it's not Holloway Poirier is the People's Main Event, it's the Main Event and the rare Main Event that's also a People's Main Event because it's Max and Dustin and it's all these things, but god damn it, if I'm not excited to see Lock Dogg
Starting point is 00:58:58 and Kyler Phillips. Yeah, Main Event is an M-E-P-M-E, a Met-Me, a Main Event also people's main event. Uh, a rare, a rare thing around these parts. Yeah. Future prelim though. Lock dog enters the matrix. Kyle, Kyler Phillips taking on Venecia Solovaria, my pick for breakout fighter of the
Starting point is 00:59:15 year, we're well on our way. Already got a win over Syed Nurmagomedov. Get this dub right here. Yeah. You had Hamza. Like the guy's going to have a fight. Uh, yeah. The breakout fighter of the year, 10 million followers on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Everyone knows who he is. Appointment television breakout fighter of the year. Win over, uh, Syedna Magomedov, beautiful, uh, purple shorts there as well. Guy just gets it. Like he's, he's my breakout fighter of the year in every way, shape or form. Uh, get a dub here in July fight again in December, three and oh, break out part of the year, cracking at the top 10. I mean, it's all right in front of them.
Starting point is 00:59:48 It's written. I'm going with lock dog. We love lock dog. Yeah. I feel like we have been on the lock dogs right. Obviously the knee, how could you not be a flying knee?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Yeah. But like it's like van's van. Exactly. We're in van's van. We're on the, what is it? Locks lock. We're on the, we're on? Loc's Loc? Loc's Loc? We're on the lake, like I'm talking like the Scottish Loc.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Oh, L-O-C-H. Yeah, L-O-K apostrophe S-L-O-C-H, Loc's Loc. We're chilling on the bay with Loc Dog. Shout out, I'm there. Was my biggest one of the year being pronounced Loc Dog? Yes, I guess so. A lot of people pushed me to say Loc. Well well because we have seen it written before and it's loke and then Ariel asked him and he's like yeah lock dog that was your biggest
Starting point is 01:00:32 one of the year soon he will be the breakout fighter of the year you'll take a dub there as well we won't talk about my male fighter of the year or any predictions like that or or after reading oh yeah my female no my female was young. Okay. Double champ. Yeah I just meant like the circumstances around it and things like that. Yeah. Kyler Phillips is a great fighter. Kyler Phillips is really talented and somebody that a lot of people have faith in and believe is a top prospect. I am one of those people. I truly believe Kyler Phillips is a good
Starting point is 01:01:01 fighter but man I can't pick against Lock Dogg. Not even just for the fact that I love his fighting style, but he is very well-rounded. He is a supreme athlete. He's good on the ground. He's good on the feet. He's a very hard problem to solve for a lot of people. I mean, last time I always saw Kyler Phillips
Starting point is 01:01:17 is like a minus 500 against Rob Font, which may be the worst position you can be in in all of- You don't want to be a big favorite against Rob Font. Even if you know you're better than him, it's just like, wait, why am I such a, no, no, no. It's like the kiss of death. Like, it's just like, you see Rob font plus 400.
Starting point is 01:01:29 You just, you just have to bet it. That's a hammer. Like you just have to bet it. It's going to be a great fight. I'm looking forward to it. I mean, there's still some, some big names as you go down this card, Marvin Vittori versus Brendan Allen, like three fights ago, Brendan Allen was like the darling
Starting point is 01:01:42 of 185 on a seven fight win streak. He was getting main events. Like I think he still has that in him and he gets a guy in Marvin Vittori who's fought for titles. Yeah, two losses in a row, but like Anthony Hernandez and Nasruddin Imovov, like the cream of the crop of the division, hard to ding him. Maybe just a step up to me,
Starting point is 01:02:04 Marvin Vittori is not in that class anymore. Marvin Vittori is not of the level of Anthony Hernandez and Anasardin. So to me, I think this fight has bounced back for Brendan Allen. Right all over it. That's the crazy part is like, that might be the biggest indictment on Paulo Costa
Starting point is 01:02:19 is that the one loss for Roman Kapilov is to Anthony Hernandez. And it's just like, yeah, man. Everybody loses to Anthony Hernandez. Like, it's just like, yeah, man. Everybody loses to Anthony Hernandez. Like it's just like, also nicest guy. We saw him at the UFCPI. Shout out Anthony. Shout out Fluff.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Demanded we go before him. Nope, I'm a gentleman. You first, please. Please, please. I will beat your ass if you don't go first through this door. I don't remember that part. And then he was at the door exiting. He's like, have a great day guys.
Starting point is 01:02:44 See you guys. Thanks for coming to the UFCPI. What a legend. I'm Anthony Hernandez, number eight middleweight in the world. I don't remember that part either. He's Anthony Hernandez, number one eight middleweight in the world. It's a GI Joe commercial. And now he's fighting Roman Delizio. Anthony Hernandez has taken the long way there but I feel confident he's going to get there. I do agree with you though like Marv Vitore, I think the best days are behind him in his career. And I still think Brendan Allen has potential in this 185 division.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah. What's the line on that one? It's come in quite a bit. A lot of people are backing Marvin Vittoria. It was like minus 300 Brendan Allen. Currently you can get Brendan Allen for minus 203. Oh, interesting. So really people are believing in Marvin, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:28 For sure, for sure. I'm not seeing that, but I understand. Jimmy Crute taking on Marcin Procno. And what might be like the oddest records leading up to the fight? Jimmy Crute is 0 is oh three and two in his last five, two draws, one being the Adolfo Bellotto and the other being Tejonzo Menafield.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And then Marcin Procno is when loss, when loss, when loss since June of 2021. Man, that oh three and two for Crute is bizarre. Crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, this is kind of like, I don't know what's going to happen in this fight.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I have to side Crute though, no? Like it feels like Crute is. Maybe, I mean, he's 0-3 and two in his last five. I feel like he was, he had very good potential at one point and now I'm just not sure. Yeah, I guess you're right. Like maybe, I don't know. I'm always impressed by Jimmy Crewt
Starting point is 01:04:27 in spurts in those fights. Like I'm always like, oh shit, like Jimmy Crewt can be a guy and then I guess it kind of like falls apart at a certain point, but it is Anthony Smith in 2021 which is still a respectable version of Anthony Smith. Jamal Hill in 2021, again, a guy, you know, a solid guy. The two Menafield ones are a little bit odd. Um, and then the Bellato. Yeah, I don't know, man. I guess you're right. I guess this is more bizarre than I was giving a credit for. It
Starting point is 01:04:55 felt like a crude auto for me, but maybe I have to maybe I have to step that back a little bit. Yeah, that's that's an interesting one. But I, I think another fight that like, it could get pretty crazy. Yeah, oh, it definitely, Jimmy Crook fights do. That's why he's 03 and two. Like it will get crazy. Ryan Spann also down here on the prelims.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Oh, he had the bottom here. Against Lucas Breczki, now he's up at 265. Ryan Spann is always good for an insane fight. Well that's the thing. Win, lose or draw, it's gonna be crazy. I agree with that. That one should be fun. Bruno Fajar taking on Jackson McVay.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Jackson McVay was supposed to debut, when was it? 317. Yeah, against SD Dumas. And then he pulled out, the new guy came in, missed weight, and so he got put onto this one. Not an easy debut against the Hulk. No. 13 wins. All of them coming by finish. He's gotta be a big dog, right?
Starting point is 01:05:45 All of them coming by finish. Never goes to decision. Yeah, Bruno Faiere is like a minus 600. It makes sense. That's a very tough first outing. The sleepy, sneaky, no one really onto it, people's main event, like the real people's main event. Tell me.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Like there's the main event, then there's like the like, yeah, we're into MMA main event. The one that your mom texted you about? Yeah. That's that's what like your your friends who watch most cards at the bar are doing. The real nasty grimy CapoSA main event like the one that like people are real deep into. Tell me. It's for the streets Carly Judese taking on Nicole Callieri. Carly Judese, you want to know some some statistics here on Carly Judese? Yeah volume machine just just here for a street fight. First fight in her UFC career 168 strikes to 164. Second fight, 169 to 119. Third fight, it only went a minute 40, 17 to 14.
Starting point is 01:06:49 She lands 11.18 significant strikes per minute and she absorbs 10.01. I have never in my life seen anything like that. Max Holloway, who we talk about being like the volume king. Yeah, what's he like an eight or something? I've not seen anything like that. Max Holloway, who we talk about being like the volume king. Yeah, what's he like an eight or something? Lands 7.16 and absorbs 4.76. Riley Drodiz is just like,
Starting point is 01:07:12 ba ba ba ba ba ba. But also getting punched back. Oh, she gets hit. That's the best part is like, she's down for the war. She's down for the grab. And on top of that, also from Louisiana. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I didn't realize that. Reps the great state of Louisiana. I wanna say Lafayette, specifically. Yes, I've seen you here fighting at a Lafayette. Yeah, Carly Judis, Nicole Calieri, be seated for that one. I think it's gonna be a fun war. Because the one that went short, she got a kick KO in a minute 40.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Took her a 100 seconds. God damn, I didn't know about the Carly Giudice, I didn't know about the power that we're talking about here. I mean, Gabriela Fernandez as well, I thought she won that fight, I thought she got robbed. It was that, that was one of the controversial ones, right? I do remember that now. Well, she went split decision on Dana White Contender Series,
Starting point is 01:08:00 split decision in her debut, and then she was like, I'm done with the decisions. Bam, KO. God damn, she gets busy. Busy, it's insane looking at her statistics. Like 11.18 strikes per minute, absorbs 10.01. Like what is the all time leader in, let's go. Strikes per minute.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yeah, I'm trying to go, let's see, striking. It's gotta be in the eight, nine range. There's no way it's go. Six strikes per minute. Yeah, I'm trying to go, let's see, striking. It's gotta be in the eight, nine range. There's no way it's like. Signition strikes nine per minute. Ever in UFC history with at least five fights is Josh Vann at 8.86. Yeah, I knew it'd be like in that eight range. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:08:38 And she's at 11.18. How many UFC fights does she have? Is this three? This will be her third, yeah. So we need to keep going. She's on her way. And then there's unfortunately like, How many USC fights does she have? Is this three? This will be her third, yeah. So we need to keep going. She's on her way. And then there's unfortunately,
Starting point is 01:08:48 there's no record for bad significant strikes absorbed per minute. How many taken? Yeah, it's the fewest, but 10.08 or whatever has to be, it has to be the most. I mean, it's an obscene amount. Because it's an obscene amount to be giving out, but it's also equally obscene
Starting point is 01:09:03 to be getting hit that many times. Yeah, it's gonna be a scrap. Curtain Jerker, shout out. Hopefully the people of Louisiana show up to back her. A couple other fights, Adam Fuji taking on Islam Dula Tov. I believe he's making his debut from Contender Series, like only gets finishes. Yeah, that's correct.
Starting point is 01:09:21 He was on this past fall, got a elbow knockout in the very first round. Robert Valentine back. Robzilla. I know you've been waiting for this one. The Swiss. This has been the one I've been waiting for. Against Etta-Ba-Gatier. That should be a great one as well. Francisco Prado versus Nikolai Ver Varit, Varitenikov, I needed to do a reset on that one, on the last name. Just a bunch of fights that like, could be scraps. But we say this every fucking card.
Starting point is 01:09:55 No, no, no, no, this is new. A bunch of fights that could be scraps. Okay, okay. Francisco Prado can get in a war. There's so many guys on this card, and girls on this card apparently, shout out to Karla Judis, that can do it. Will we see it?
Starting point is 01:10:10 How many people are on this card that only win by finish? Francisco Prado only wins by finish. Islam Doolitav has only ever won by finish. Bruno Fahara has only ever won by finish. What's Spann? Does Spann ever win decisions? Doesn't look like it. He might have like one or two.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah, three wins by decision. Yeah, like there's definitely a lot of guys on here that exclusively win via finish. Jackson McVeigh, only ever won by finish. I don't food you any decision wins. I mean, that's the- Finisher's. That is the slogan for this card.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Could be his crap. Could be his crap. Could be a scrap. What's next? Audubay Gatier versus Robert Valentine. Could be a scrap. Might as well sit down and watch it because there's a chance that it's a scrap. Audubay Gatier.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Main event though? Guaranteed scrap. Definitely gonna be a scrap. Guaranteed scrap. Definitely gonna be a scrap. All-timer. And if it's not a scrap, that means someone got brutally finished early.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Which is great. Which is also makes it a pretty crazy scrap. It's gonna be good, man. It's gonna be good. If either one finishes the other, it would be pretty spectacular. Oh yeah, it'd be crazy. It'd be crazy. Look at this card.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Kyler Phillips, look at Kyler Phillips' hair and that beard. My god. It looks AI. I gotta be honest. It's like too perfect. The beard is too perfect. He's a perfect man. The hair is too perfect. He's a perfect man. The hair is too perfect.
Starting point is 01:11:26 It is a little bit too perfect. The hair is like, it's got volume. It looks like it's a L'Oreal ad. It's quaffed. Yeah, it's like. And the beard's a little too perfect. Nobody's hair looks this good when they go to take the portraits for the UFC.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Yeah, it's. Except for his. Except for Kyler Phillips. Locked dog looking good. Locked dog wearing the new gloves, now it's. Except for his. Except for Kyler Phillips. Lock Dog looking good. Lock Dog wearing the new gloves, now the old gloves in that picture. God, I love Lock Dog, man. Oh, no photos.
Starting point is 01:11:53 No photos in Islam Dula Tov. They were so good. I was like, this is gonna make us all feel bad if we put them out just because they look so good. Oh, because they're too handsome. Exactly. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, Islam Dula Toh is known for his looks,
Starting point is 01:12:06 his sharp looks. Should be a great card, could be a great card. Might be a great card. It's gonna be great. It could potentially be some scraps. No matter, okay, let's reset for a second. No matter what happens, the rest of the fucking night, no matter what happens, the moment it is time
Starting point is 01:12:24 for Dustin Poirier to walk out it is going to be electric. No matter what happens also that'll also be the last thing we remember about the card. Yeah. Like it could just be bullshit and it's like that was great. Dustin Poirier fucking knocked out Max Holloway went on top. Oh my god Max spoiled it. Oh my god I can't believe he did it. Gonna have to go to smoothie king on on Saturday. Shaheen, if you're watching, I'm gonna have to submit a new one. I'm switching back to Dustin.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Articles already been printed on Ground Times. All right, that is our UFC 318 preview. We'll talk about the rest of the weekend, but before we get to that, in honor of Dustin Poirier's final fight, me and the boys hopped in the airboat and went down to the bayou and did ourselves a little crawfish boil some cajun cooking here in New York City for this edition of Fight Feast. Please enjoy.
Starting point is 01:13:14 UFC 318 fight week Dustin the Diamond Poirier gets to make his final walk to the octagon and he does so in his home state of Louisiana at the Smoothie King Center. So in honor of El Diamante we are at Aqua Boil to try an authentic crawfish boil. Never had it before. About to tear some heads off. Fight feast episode 24. Let's go. Hey, Petezy, Petezy, what's up man?
Starting point is 01:13:38 Wow, we can't stand there. Crawfish? Yeah, let's go. I heard you're afraid of shellfish. I am, terrif- Water, five out of five. Five out of five on the water. Ice to perfection. This is some fine water.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Delicious. Bibs, gloves, lose all our jewelry. I'm gonna have to fuck up the left one so bad with the right one. Just glide it off. So I'm very worried GC. I don't know what jumbalaya is or gumbo. The good news is it's not jumbalaya, it's gumbo. You've never had a shrimp or a crawfish before right? No I haven't and I think they're insects of the sea. Well you're about to eat an insect of the sea. So we got rice, looks like jalapeno,
Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm seeing some shrimp in there. A lot of cartilage, a lot of bone. I see some sausage in there. Okay let's mix it up. We're gonna mix it up. Yeah mix it up. Come on get in there. When you have one of these shrimp you're gonna have to, you can't eat the whole tail. New York Rick detailed this one for me already. Oh wow it's already detailed alright. Can I just go straight in with this? Yeah, get some sausage on there too. Alright, go back to the sausage, go back to the sausage. It's fucking crunchy, boys.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Was the shell still on it? It does not look like he's enjoying this. The texture is interesting. The shell was definitely off. Is it already gone? So good. I feel like you chewed that like maybe two times. Get some okra. Get some okra in there. Okay, that's good.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sweating profusely. The 78 degree heat in New York is fucking this man up bad. Good to have. You know what's nice? When you don't put the thing, the shellfish, you can... So you don't want, you don't like the shrimp in it. Here's some rice and okra. What's this little thing? Oh, that's a... This is another shrimp? Yeah, go for it. You must have got some tail. I don't I don't have any grunge. Well, it was just a hard experiment No, what is this thing? What the port of intro? That's just someone's toes. Well, I suck it
Starting point is 01:15:33 It's so when we the worst I was so good. Thank you that much What is this like it's just I think it's a crab. Oh, look you. You're fucking grabbing it. You're a shellfish master, okay? That was okay. Quite like that one, Jesus. I can't touch that microphone anymore so I'm gonna have to talk down here. Mmm. Real tasty. Alright, we got corn ribs. This is what Pizza was looking forward to the most. I know you've had corn, but you've never had Cajun corn ribs. Grab you one of those, get a big dunk in this mysterious white sauce.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Do we know what it is Frank? It's like the stuff you put on a loop to. On a what? That doesn't help. Mmm. Yeah. Very good. Oh that's the money maker right there.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Very very good. I can do about ten of these. That's a winner. I can do about 10 of these. That's a winner. I can do about 10 of these, easy. We take this to Ireland, we'll make fucking millions. Crawfish next up, it's your sausage, come on now. An occasion Caesar.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Oh yeah, now we're talking. Tater, Irish potato, I know you love your taters. All right, I'm not gonna lie. I don't love this What the fuck is that? Never done a crawfish either. I am kind of insect of the sea guy I sort of like people to take care of it for me cranky guide me through this Okay, what is the brown thing? Or is it not you're not reaching brain. It's like spinal cord though Cord, bro part of the central nervous system. It's just a spinal cord, bro. That's what Rick just said. It's just his spinal cord, bro.
Starting point is 01:17:06 There you go, like that. Oh, I'm getting emotional. This is what I did. I worked all of this for this. All that work for this. This is bullshit. Let's go. Shove it.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Oh, shit. Yo, what's good, bro? Grab the little claw. There's claw meat, too. I'm going to let you deal with the claw meat. What the fuck? This does feel a bit heinous, no? Probably had a whole little life, you know? Rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:17:31 The shells are tough on these things, man. It's almost like they weren't supposed to be. It is a lot of effort for, like, not a lot of food, isn't it? In the meantime, I'm just gonna get a little extra piece of sausage. That's good shit. Am I crazy for thinking the taters and the sausage are the best part? Yeah, the taters and the sausage are one really. We're gonna get killed in the comments for this. For not eating the proper way.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Let me try one more. I'll give one more, okay? So I'm pulling the tail off. Tail's off. Blot's down. This is gonna be a clean break. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 01:17:59 A lot of effort, but that's good. After all the work, when you get a dunk in all the sauce and stuff... I'm just picking bits of shallot in my fucking mouth every two seconds It's a small morsel. It's a small morsel, but it's delightful. On the sauce I'm just gonna take some more sausage Yeah The...
Starting point is 01:18:14 Mmm The Cajun mix is delightful Good Woo Damn guys, you gotta spray I ate one No, that's fine I'm just trying to spray, we need some Windex over here Yeah, Windex Damn guys, he's got spray. I ate one. No, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:18:26 We need some Windex over here. Yeah, Windex. I'm loving it. Bibbed up, glubbed up. Someone start the clock. Oh, there it is. Oh, we're broken. Speed. Ever since you mentioned the insects in the sea, the legs look like Cockroach legs.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Literally what they are. It'd be fun. He's just gonna barf into the fucking... They're delicious. He's barely hanging on. He's trying to appease the New Orleans... Suck the head. There it is. Suck the head.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I ain't sucking no head. Suck the head. All right, what'd you think? You know, I liked the shrimp, the crawfish... We did some damage. Crawfish is a bit visceral for me. I'm a bitch, you know what I mean? Call me what you will. the insect comparison was a bad
Starting point is 01:19:07 I shouldn't have said that I'm sorry the legs at one point were sticking out like I just smashed a cockroach When you get the meat out and you dunk it in the sauce, it is fucking good I just kept eating the shell. It's good. I'm picking shell out of my fucking teeth now All right, we got the mac and cheese jambalaya. This looks divine, I can't lie. Red crumbs on top, pasta, there's definitely some sausage in here, maybe some beans. This should be tremendous. This looks good.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Cheeseball? See if you can get a cheeseball. Oh yeah. It's erotic. Oh yeah. Okra, noodles, noodles, noodles. Oh yeah. It's erotic. Oh yeah. Okra, noodles, sausage. I missed so many times.
Starting point is 01:19:54 This is quality. This is quality. What kind of good is in my mouth? Mac and cheese New Orleans, you would've had something special. Second winner of the day from Big Pete. Let me get in there so you can speak. I got something in my eye after a meal.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Quite good. Shrimp po' boy, your second time trying shrimp today. This is going to be way easier. It's detailed, it's de-shelled, it's fried up. You got a great room on it. Just take that half of the sandwich. Okay, thank you. Beautiful, beautiful bun here. Sauces, lettuce, tomato. Cheers, my brother.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Cheers, love you buddy. Let's go. Love you, brother. Okay, oh fuck. They fight in their hot tea. Ah, yeah. The bread with the sauce. That's pretty fucking good. I feel like New Orleans food is very messy.
Starting point is 01:20:49 It feels like we're eating a Bayou hot dog right now. It doesn't even feel like a sandwich. Should we go there? This is called a po' boy. Po' boy. I think this is probably costing not much money back in the day. Po' meaning poor. Correct, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Okay, I did not know that. Man, shout out to the Pope boys. Pope boys is one of my favorite foods on earth, I love them. That's a lot of food, isn't it? I'm going to fight this, baby. He's sweating his ass off. I'm so just about touching him. Etouffée, down on the bayou. Nolan, bayou.
Starting point is 01:21:12 That's all I can say. Smoothie King Center, down on the bayou. Nola, bayou. That's all I can say. Smoothie King said it. Down on the bayou. Very sorry if you're watching this here from New Orleans. I didn't quite embrace it the way you wanted me to. Well I did try some shrimp. I thought it was pretty good. Especially when it's battered and covered in bread. Fantastic. Alright, that's it for Cajun food. Crawfish, shout out man. More difficult than I expected it to be. Great to have Big Pizzi Carol here. Don't know the next time I'm gonna do crawfish.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Never. It doesn't bore a fight again, we're gonna have to. Please retire, Dustin. That's a wrap for us. Shout out to the Big Easy. So crawfish, when you eat them, you don't wanna eat the ones that are not curled already because that means that they were dead before they were boiled.
Starting point is 01:22:09 And what you want is for the life to be taken away from the crawfish just moments before they serve it to you. They were out of beignets. I think they have here. Actually, they weren't out of beignets. They don't serve beignets. We're going to the M&M's store, Rick's favorite place. He comes here like once a week.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Really? Look at him. What the fuck? Look at him, he's giddy. He's knocking out his weekly M&M's stores trip early. The boys take Times Square. Smells like piss in here. Welcome to New York, baby. It smells like piss everywhere.
Starting point is 01:22:41 I mean, I'm spellbound. Wow. I mean I'm spellbound Wow Oh look there are worse place on earth than the M&M store to have a post-cajun food tummy ache Toxic green my favorite color the spicy bags starting to bite back Man this is like a fucking airport Yeah, Rick comes here once a week, remember that. Orange, green.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And green for us. Deep green right there, look at that. This already? Yeah, it's beautiful. And aqua looks nice, but I guess not, you know? Let's get some white here. Yeah. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:23:23 The Irish flag, this is gonna cost $49.97. Too much white. Or no. It's simple as the unity between North and South, so it's beautiful. So emotional right now. It feels like I'm right back home. Thank you so much. Oh my god. Who knew they had white M&M's on all serious? Pizzi's trying to dine and dash at the M&M's store. We aren't going to use this. It's expensive as fuck. Oh no, none of us have cash.
Starting point is 01:23:56 This is dirty. We're going to get these for you Pizzi. What an honor seeing this guy in so many commercials. What a time to be alive $37 worth M&Ms all to get that Irish flag, baby. Oh, yeah, I mean we got to taste it see if it tastes like Ireland See if it tastes like back home. I can't wait to try these M&Ms get those dirty paws Is that how you say it M&Ms get those dirty paws in there. Come on now Still got crawfish all over them and shit. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Magical! Tastes like Ireland. Rick damn near pays rent at the M&M's store. Notice. It's like mom makes it. Notice. Out of beignets, Rick was like,
Starting point is 01:24:41 M&M's store, let's go to the M&M's store. And then the motherfucker was running here. Come on! 48th Street! I was here on Saturday. I can't keep building my note today. It's just going from here. Can't beat it.
Starting point is 01:24:54 I like having them homemade in the back room. $37 worth of M&M's, what a waste. There's some Texas. I am so thirsty. All right. That's a wrap. Light beast. Let's go. Oh yeah, hey, Pizzi! What's up man? You want easy? Wow, that was a nice dab. You want to get some crawfish with me? No, not really, but let's do it anyway.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Come on. This fucking pussy's scared of... He's scared of... Oh, selfie mode activated. Selfie mode activated. The boys in the back are going to be scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm scared. Oh, I'm on fucking pussy scared of these scared of oh selfie mode activated selfie mode activated The boys in the back and now in the front We we ate the insects down on the back That's it. It's gonna beat them saints. We just got the auto 18% gratuity. What are you guys? Oh, you ought auto tip me 18%? You ain't get another 10. All those service charts, but on the bill it says, there's an 18 or a table.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I don't know. I don't know. You're in on a big one. Yeah, they make a lot of money. Go, daggers. All right, that was our trip down to the bayou to try some crawfish and some shrimp po' boys and some jambalaya and some gumbo.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I'm just glad that pizza got to experience my M&M's store. Yes, I'm glad too, honestly. I'm glad we all did and we still have part of that here. This is probably what, 18? Nah, this is probably like $13 worth of those $37 worth M&M's but the Irish flag will fly forever on this set because of the M&M's store. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Have you gone this week? I would assume yes. I mean, come on, you don't even have to ask. Your favorite place on earth. Couldn't miss it for the world. When Rick won the, he played basketball in high school and he won the state championship and he got interviewed by a local reporter
Starting point is 01:26:57 and they tried to tee him up for the, I'm going to Disney World moment. They were like, Eric Jackman, you just won the state championship. What are you gonna do now? He did like a Kevin Garnett anything is possible but he was like I'm going to the M&M store we got to find that video somewhere it was great it's it's there it's on the internet somewhere guy loves the M&M store love it
Starting point is 01:27:17 yeah crawfish in the middle of Manhattan I thought it was pretty good I didn't think I can't imagine it's as good as Louisiana, but like I said it in the video many times, but once you get the meat and then the Cajun dip and sauce. It's seasonal, like usually they're at least three times that size. Yeah, they were kind of tiny. There's no way they're three times that size. No, it's wrong. It's like two.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I think you're thinking of a lobster, Frank. Literally like little lobsters. Yeah, he's thinking of lobsters. That was like a little lobster, man. It's like two times. Next time we we're gonna get them overnighted from Louisiana We're gonna cook them and front of Jordan's house Which was the plan originally but no one in front of Jordan's house looking that so we're going to the front lawn We're not gonna ask permission
Starting point is 01:28:03 There's you know an outdoor TV. We can watch the fight no no front lawn oil I want you and Mrs.. On air to open the curtain to be like what's going on up front? We're just kind of giant pot Exactly my man Frankie was slurping heads in that row as soon as the bag showed up. I was like chill chill chill Frank. He's like It is just like oh, yeah, you, they were still alive when we killed them. It's just like. His little thing about the curl was incredible. It was a good time. It was a good time showing pizza around.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Pizza got some shrimp. The best thing was, and it always is when I have like Louisiana cooking is the po' boys. I just love po' boys. Po' boys are good. Crawfish, that was not a great crawfish spot. Better crawfish will set it off. It's are good. Crawfish, that was not a great crawfish spot. Better crawfish will set it off. It's quite good.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Yeah, the old base seasoning to things. It's always gonna be spicy. It's always gonna be nice. M&M's store is the highlight, as always. M&M's store is always the highlight. M&M's store is the highlight of your life. All right, let's go to the rest of the weekend. We got boxing, we got PFL, we got KSW.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Um, but let's go to, let's go to South Africa where yeah, there's the full schedule. Pacquiao Barrios, KSW 108, UFC 318. Ousek Dubois, Bam Rodriguez getting back in there. Let's go to PFL Africa, PFL Cape Town specifically. Uh, really like it's a, it's a two fight card for me. Yep. Two fights that I'm interested in. I guess the AJ McKee fight I'm also to go with PFL Africa, PFL Cape Town specifically. Really like it's a two fight card for me. Yep. Two fights that I'm interested in.
Starting point is 01:29:28 I guess the AJ McKee fight I'm also interested in, but Johnny Ebelin taking on Costello Van Steenis. You told me, you asked me. You better keep an eye out. Am I ready for the Van Steenis era to begin in the PFL? Are you? I'm as ready as I'm ever going to be. Johnny Ebelin should win this fight.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I don't, I don't know. I don't know what you're going to say after that. No, he should win this fight. He's undefeated and he's minus five 50. I don't know what to say about this, this fight other than like, it's good to see Johnny Eblen and Dakota DeCheva active, but not necessarily like these are not super compelling matchups for me.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Now granted, I think Sumiko Onaba is like at least a name that Bellator had tried to kind of promote for a long time and is at least somebody who is like in the in the zeitgeist of MMA fans like she's not unfamiliar. Costello I think there's a little more work that needs to be done. Sumiko Onaba is like, oh yeah, I remember Sumiko Onaba. Yes, but do you remember Costello Vansnina? No, but like Sumiko Onaba lost to like Denise Kielholtz. Yeah! She has nine fights and she's almost 35. Dakota's minus 3500. What I'm trying to present here is that these are two not super compelling matchups, but
Starting point is 01:30:47 they can be the start of showcases for these champions if Johnny Eblen and and by the way, we have a Confirmation from the PFL now that there there's gonna be a belt on the line the PFL championship Just just just the PFL middleweight world title You can see the belt right there Johnny Eblen looking scarily like Marvin Vittori now that he shaved his beard. Without the beard, yeah. But yeah, man. It's a nice belt.
Starting point is 01:31:09 It is a nice belt, 12 pounds. They released some specs for it. It looks good, man. That's what it needs to be, one belt, one belt. Well, the tournament champion's gonna get a belt and then they're gonna fight the Johnny Eblen Championship. And like, if you're trying to star build, why is Dakota not just your de facto Flyweight champion?
Starting point is 01:31:32 Maybe they will, I don't know. Maybe they'll make her, I don't know. Should be a belt on the line for her. Strap the belt around her, she's 14 and 0, she's on like a nine fight finish streak. Yeah, I guess, is there a champion? Who was the Bellator flyweight was Liz the champion? Bellator Corey Anderson also on here Denise Goldsauve
Starting point is 01:31:54 Flyweight champion. I mean, it's cool that they're going to South Africa and that I believe that it is it is an accomplishment Bellator, you man. They just they really just they need to consolidate everything. Yeah. It was Liz Carmush. Okay. Sweet. Didn't Liz, did Liz lose in the. No. Okay. So she's still the, I guess she's the PFL champion.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Just go ahead and book after this, just book Ditchie with versus Carmush. Uh, also I did learn today the road to Dubai goes through Cape town. Yes, that's correct. I've heard that on my travels. Um, good to see Eblen. Good to see, to see Ditcheva. Good to see Corey Anderson.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Good to see AJ McKee. I'm glad they're fighting. Like I'm happy that they are getting activity here, but all of these things feel a little bit. Corey Anderson actually an underdog to Denise Goldsoe. I mean, Goldsoe is pretty good. Another name that you would know if you're like somebody who followed the PFL tournaments for the longest time. Like the dude was on a decent run in PFL, but I don't know how you build from these. Like you need to have a next step from here and it feels like
Starting point is 01:33:00 every time there is a big PFL event, it feels like it kind of like drops in it like parachutes in out of nowhere and then gone and it's like there's no impact there's no next step even to the point that like Nurmaga made of and Hughes was there and then it was like oh shit We have something to build on the next step will be a rematch between these two guys And then even that didn't come to fruition. We saw Francis and Ghanu return. And then it was like, all right, now what? Like what is next for Francis and Ghanu?
Starting point is 01:33:32 Hopefully there can be some kind of direction or momentum that happens here, especially for Eblen, especially for Ditcheva. But for me, this feels like a showcase and hopefully they can deliver. Yeah, cause if they can't, then it does just kind of feel like a failure. And then it feels like a real flop.
Starting point is 01:33:46 If any of the like bigger names on this lose, then it really feels like a flop. Yeah, I mean, especially when you have Eblen and Dakota De Chippa both being undefeated, like two of your bigger names, they're both undefeated. You want them to continue to stay that way in fights that they're massive favorites in. But for what?
Starting point is 01:34:06 To the next step, which is what? That's the problem. That's the huge problem. Ditcheva at least has the potential of the Liz Carmouche fight. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know who Johnny Evelyn fights. If Liz can win the tournament, she's in the final, right?
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yes. If she can win the tournament, at least you have a name that you go, okay, Liz Carmouche versus Dakota Dechava, there's a fight there. So yeah, but we need some momentum here. We need some momentum here. We sure do, but I will be watching.
Starting point is 01:34:36 An achievement though, that they are going to South Africa. And they're gonna be, I believe they announced on ESPN+. They're gonna be on ESPN+, so you can watch this. I believe that starts at like 10 a.m. here or something? Yeah. What's the time in Cape Town right now, Frankie? I'm not really sure. 11.34 p.m.?
Starting point is 01:34:53 That's right, 8.34, 8.34. 8.34, okay, nice, nice. All right, so that's the MMA on the weekend, boxing. Oleksandr Usyk taking on Daniel Dubois in a rematch of their fight from August 2023 at Wembley Stadium. It's probably gonna be a sellout undisputed heavyweight title on the line. It's fantastic theater. Yeah it's a big fight. Dubois seems to have some momentum right now. I'm not one of the people that thought
Starting point is 01:35:20 like low blow controversy. I didn't care about any of that part. I care more about the idea that the Dubois that I saw against Joshua to me is like a supremely talented fighter and I'm ready to see him against Usyk. If Usyk is still Usyk and every day, hour, minute that goes by, we get closer to like, yeah, there's going to be an end point for Usyk. If Usyk is still Usyk, he will win this fight. But I wouldn't be surprised if we're at an inflection point where all of a sudden Dubois is the guy and he's ready for his time and Usyk's on the way out.
Starting point is 01:35:57 He's kind of been locked in that Tyson Fury series. So I wouldn't be surprised by a Dubois win, but I am still for the moment thinking that Usyk gets this done. But I wouldn't be surprised at all by Dubois. I think he is elite. Yeah, I mean, he obviously has massive power, punching power and everything like that, but I just feel like the way that Usyk boxes,
Starting point is 01:36:16 he's such a terrific boxer. Yeah. Like Dubois has that power to put you out, but I don't feel he's a terrific boxer. I think that he's going to need to hurt Usyk badly. I don't think he's gonna outpoint him to a decision win or anything like that. And how defensively sound Usyk is,
Starting point is 01:36:33 just his ability, just how good he is as an all-around boxer. I'm not ready to end the streak here for Usyk. I just can't imagine he goes undefeated. He gets the two wins over Tyson Fury, and then six months later, it's just like everything's gone we lost the Dubois now I'm gonna ride off into the sunset. Yeah until Usyk loses a step there's a there's a real safe bet that he's better than everybody who he's going to face but maybe that day that he loses a step is here. I'm also with you on the Lobo thing. I mean I think at the end of the day he finished Daniel
Starting point is 01:37:02 Dubois and I don't know if he finishes him here, but I think he does get another win, gets that undisputed. And then I don't know how much- I think that's the third time for him. So yeah, that's impressive stuff, but I mean, we talked about it. His career is incredible. Unbelievable. And at that point, I don't know what else he has left.
Starting point is 01:37:19 A Joe Parker fight, but like, does that get him out of bed in the morning? He seems to want one more. So let's see what it ends up being. Like I would like to see Joe Parker get it. And I was very terrified. God, I mean, I would definitely like to see that, but I don't think that's realistic. Shit.
Starting point is 01:37:33 There's, there's so many other fights. I'd rather see Alex per fight right now than the Magomed on Kaliya fight. I'd rather see him versus Usyk. I'd rather see him versus Tom Aspinall or another heavyweight. Um, but, uh, I wouldn't I wouldn't say no to either of those, but I'm also not like, like Usyk has zero left to prove and there's nobody that is out there that I'm like, yeah, I need to see that guy.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Right now, Oleksandr Usyk minus 300, then you blah. Makes sense. Plus 235. He's a pound for pound grade, he's incredible. And then we are getting the return of Manny Pacquiao going up against Mario Barrios, fighting for a title. The WBC welterweight title will be on the line for 46 year old Manny Pacquiao.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Yeah, it's a scary thought, I'll be honest, because I just don't, I don't know what Manny Pacquiao is gonna have left at this point in his career. And I think a lot of people are in that position, but God damn it, if he doesn't, like we booked, Manny was on the show yesterday, uh, with Ariel and he, like, I was like nervous, like he carries an aura.
Starting point is 01:38:31 He is a name that is like in the pantheon of fight sports. Like we talk about, like Usyk is an absolute legend, Manny Pacquiao is like levels above that in terms of like the name recognition, the legendary status, super duper star, superstar level. And so I'm excited for a Manny Pacquiao fight
Starting point is 01:38:50 because it's a Manny Pacquiao fight, but I don't love the idea of a 46 year old guy like coming in there against a reigning champion. Like it, it is a bit of an odd one. If he can, if he can summon something and create some magic, it would be truly special. Um, and we've seen, you know, some of the older legends do stuff like that before like Bernard Hopkins was able to do it If he can do it, it would be special, but I'm not banking on it I think Barrios is gonna get it done. Yeah against the three. I just hope it doesn't go sad
Starting point is 01:39:17 That's my only hope is like I hope this doesn't go sad 29 and 2 yeah 18 wins by knockout Big dude as well. Yeah. I mean, look, Pac-Man is like special. Like what he was able to do in the sport of boxing in terms of moving up weight classes and how he was able to navigate that throughout his career. He is a truly special fighter, but man, some like at 46 years old, you have to wonder has the magic run out.
Starting point is 01:39:44 And by the way, this is not like some unique thought. thought everybody is thinking this every single person who's thinking about this fight is like There's no it reminds me of the Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul thing It's like we know there's really no chance But what if he summons the magic one more time and it's just like he's he's not going to he is not going to use He's a 46 year old man. I honestly think that line shocks me the most of the weekend. Mario Barrios minus 275. Manny Pacquiao. It feels like a no brainer.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Feels like a no brainer to side with Mario Barrios just because of the age difference there. But overall, a great weekend in combat sports. A busy weekend in combat sports. A busy Saturday, it really isn't even the weekend. It's just the Saturday, it should be great. A lot of meaningful fights happening on Saturday and we'll be right here on Saturday night
Starting point is 01:40:29 watching UFC 318. Yeah, join us. For our watch party. Please feel free to join us. All right, let's do a recap from last week betting. Yes. Parlay pals. Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:41 This week and this week's bets. Let's start with the recap. I can't wait for this Parlay Pals recap. Oh yes, yes, yes. Parlay Pals. There it is. There it is. Greens across the board.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Look at all that green. Looking good. The key is look at that green in the corner. Yeah, we're net up. Plus six, 28, 11 and 19. 30 in. green in the corner. Yeah we're net up. I finished up like a unit last week. I finished down like 1.1 on MMA but then I had the Katie Taylor money line bet. The Katie Taylor was nice.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Yeah. Essentially, essentially even, uh, for your boy. Um, let's give a shout out to some big hitters before we get into our picks for this weekend. Um, and there's, there's always quite a few. Everyone always seems, seems to hit big. Uh, let's kick it off. D Krause, Daniel Krause goes Petrino by sub.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Round one plus 1700 and just sub period plus 900. Holy shit. Yeah. It turns $200 into 2,800. Not bad. Shout out to D Krause. 030493. Next up, Gurthy Meats turned $7 into $850 plus $11,510.
Starting point is 01:42:09 Walter Walker by sub, Chatrier by KO, and Steve Garcia by points. Wow, what a play. Morgan by KO and Steve Garcia by points is a poll right there. That is a poll. Turn $7 into $ 850. Next up, Hey Aaron Hey, $1 into 750 plus $75,094. Mike Davis to win by KO, Walter Walker by sub, Jake Matthews Moneyline, Chris Curtis Moneyline, Tuco Tacos by sub, under 1 1⁄2 in the Patrino fight, and Morgan Cherrier to win by KO. Plus $75,094, turns a dollar into $751.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Absolutely insane. Next up, Otto six, $9 into $625. Played some over unders, Mike Davis under. Fatima Klima over, Kennedy under, Moura money line, Jake Matthews cheat, he doesn't go the distance. 65 to one on that one for Otto. Next up, Indycott 9009,
Starting point is 01:43:18 Eduardo Moura, Chris Curtis, Morgan Cherrier, over two and a half in a fight, Derrick Lewis to win by KO, and then a couple more overs and one not to go the distance plus $11,552 turns $10 into $1,165. Insane man, congratulations to you. And then a man we've shout it out several times,
Starting point is 01:43:38 Dravi, one of the best in the business. He goes, Fatima Klein KO round three plus 1300 throws $192 on it, turns it into 2,688. I mean, just absolutely unreal. Another sharp, there week after week, JT Lines, thanked his chat for this one, I guess he does live streams for this one, turns $100 into 3,114. He goes, Tuco Tacos underdog.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Vitor Petrino, Moneyline. Morgan Chariot, Moneyline. Steve Garcia, Moneyline. Gabriel Bonfim, Moneyline. Barely sneaks away with that one. And Derek Lewis, Moneyline. I think that's a full main card parlay there. Hits all of them 100 into 3,100.
Starting point is 01:44:21 And then it's just the weeklies. Jay Singh and Mr. Electricute. It's just the weeklies, J Singh and Mr. Electrocute, it's just every week, J Singh, uh, two parlays turns 3,800 into over 43,000 hits the take down parlays week after week after week. If you have DraftKings and you have take down props, it's the best bet to tail in the whole wide world. Uh, it, if it doesn't hit, it comes close and it hits a lot.
Starting point is 01:44:47 And then Mr. Electrocute, Art C, the man, he goes same game parlay, $50. Junior Taffa, most significant strikes. Tugo Tacos, most strikes period. Tugo Tacos, by submission, $50 into 4,550. Nailed it. Wow. Nailed it. Impressive stuff. tacos by submission. $50 into $4,550. Nailed it. Wow. Nailed it.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Impressive stuff. Shout out to the big hitters. They impress me every week. It really is a thing of beauty watching them work. Now it's time to make our picks for this weekend. UFC 318, you got boxing, you got PFL, a lot to choose from. I've already received Pizzi's pick, a Teba Gatier Moneyline.
Starting point is 01:45:27 I love it. Frankie, why don't you go first, Rick second, then I'll go third. Cool. All right, I'll go first. You go first, man. I want E. Gay and Pitbull to go over two and a half rounds. You want it or are you taking that?
Starting point is 01:45:42 Or both? Both. Okay, good, I like it. Thanks man. You're welcome. Yeah, appreciate that. Lock dog money line, easy. Lock dog is a lock money line.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Love it. I'll go golden boy. I'll go Daniel Zellhuber to get it done against Michael Johnson. Let's do it. He's gonna look like he's getting it done, unless. Unless Michael Johnson kills him. Can we continue the, are we calling it a streak now? Can
Starting point is 01:46:07 we, can we, look at that, plus 221. That'd get us really firmly. How many, was that two in a row? Did we, had we had hit back-to-back? I think so. Okay, then yes, it is a streak. We got to 10 and 19, yeah, now 11 and 19. Let's keep it rolling. Let's keep it rolling. All right, to my picks on the weekend, a few of them here. We started UFC 318. Oh, the graphics look tremendous. Oh, shout out. Shout out to New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:46:32 They make it easy to make the graphics look good. Crute Procno, under two and a half. I don't think Crute goes to a draw here. I think these guys get busy and I think someone gets a finish. Next up, my breakout fighter of the year, Aneesius Oliveira, lock dog, gets it done. How? Flying knee? Probably not. Probably just mixes the martial arts like we saw him do against Haydn and Raga Medov and
Starting point is 01:46:54 another impressive performance by Mr. Vinicius Oliveira to the main event. I'm going to take this fight to go the distance. Dustin Max fight goes to a decision. Uh, yeah, I just, I just think this is going to be a war. I don't think Max's chin is gone. Um, and I don't see Max putting Dustin out. I think this is one of those back and forth war. That's going to be exciting. The whole.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Can I ask you something? I meant to ask this earlier, but I did not. Ask it. Grappling at all. Dustin tried to mix it in a little bit in the second fight. Do we see any grappling? I think he tried to mix it in a little bit in the second fight. Do we see any grappling? I think he tried to mix it in the second fight, but I think he was at a different point in his career,
Starting point is 01:47:29 I think in front of this crowd with what's on the line and just being his last fight, I think they just let it fly. I think so too. I don't think Max is gonna try to grapple. I think that's, that is very unlikely. All right, a couple of parlays for you here. Daniel Zellhuber, the golden boy with Roman Kapilov, got a pretty bad line on Roman Kapilov. That one has come in, but I did get a good line on Daniel Zell Huber, the golden boy with Roman Kapilov got a pretty bad line
Starting point is 01:47:45 on Roman Kapilov. That one has come in, but I did get a good line on Daniel Zell Huber in that one. Think both those guys get it done. Next up, my girl, Street Fighter, Carly Giudice, parlayed with Danny Ege. I just can't trust Patricio Pippel after that last performance. The fact that Danny Ege has never been knocked out gives me belief that he gets it done here, either by hurting Patricio or just out pointing him to a decision win. And then I also parlayed Carly with Kevin Holland. Took Kevin Holland like minus 380,
Starting point is 01:48:15 still a wide price on Kevin Holland, but not exactly where he's at now with like minus 500. And then in the boxing, mentioned it. Oh wait, no, I have one more. A fight does not start round three parlay early on, this is just pure violence. Spann Bretzky, Adam Fujit against Islam Touloutave, and then Bruno Fajera, Jackson McVeigh.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Going with none of them to start round three. And then the boxing, like I said, I just love Manny Pacquiao but at the age, I'm going Mario Barros and I don't think it's time for Alexander Rusek to stop. So I'll be backing both of them in the main events of their respective cards. And those are the picks for a busy,
Starting point is 01:48:54 busy weekend in combat. Good picks. Hopefully. Wow, Frank was impressed this time. Knock on wood. Knock on wood that they're good picks, Frank. We shall see on the weekend. Time for our pound for pound rankings.
Starting point is 01:49:07 This week, in honor of Dustin the Diamond Poirier, we thought maybe we'd rank his fights, but we sort of did that in paying homage to him in a look back at his career. So in honor of Dustin Poirier, we are going to rank our pound for pound favorite hot sauces. Love it. Will, I mean this is His hot sauce make the list. This isn't my wheelhouse. I mean we'll have to see this isn't your wheelhouse Frankie
Starting point is 01:49:31 What's the order brother? The order this time is going to be Frank. Okay, then Connor. Okay, then Rick can't wait However, wow as we get things loaded into the chamber here to discuss our list We have another contender who wanted to submit their pound-for-pound hot sauce list and it's from our own Ben Hefner oh shit we should have added a top five oh shit and it can't be messed with like we had to read this so wow we got number five heart beat hot sauce scorpion hot sauce we got number four and God help me pronouncing some of these go to Jang go to Jang wait wait. I just heard two way for announcing wait wait wait Wait, oh, we're contending this already. What's wrong Eric? Let's talk. Let's talk. He's broken I Didn't give any parameters to Ben Hefner Ben Hefner sent it to me because I asked for it. I know
Starting point is 01:50:23 Any parameters to bet after bet after sent it to me because I asked for it. I know Junk is actually a paste and not a bit of a paste. It's a pay but you know Number three we have hellfire hot sauce cranked Think we got a picture of the bottle here. Look at this You're not gonna fuck of cranked black garlic Reaper goddamn Yeah, that thing probably kicks that thing probably kicks pretty bad number two we got some chili paste Yeah, I was gonna say Sambo Olek is like a chili paste chili oil type deal not really Paste you know we've all had it and then uh we've all had it conor Why don't you take us home on this number one with your? You know Duolingo. Yeah, chili language a fuego
Starting point is 01:51:12 Lengua is tongue yes. This is like a fire tongue the chili of the fire tongue Tila fire hot sauce. This is number one. This is number. Whoa. That's a beautiful bottle. I love the tongue This is number one. Whoa, that's a beautiful bottle. I love the tongue animation. Yeah, this is great. I gotta try some of this. Now, I don't traditionally go for, it looks like green. It looks like a green sauce.
Starting point is 01:51:33 But maybe that's just a bottle color. I like green sauces generally. I don't like them for hot. Ben Hefner knows ball. No, clearly. I mean, look at the policies. When I saw the list, I was like, he's gotta get on here. I'd only heard of the chili oil and the goju
Starting point is 01:51:46 Jang the other ones I had never heard of mine is much more basic. Yeah, I mean mine is much more base You know a fantastic list. We love Ben Hefner. Shout out to you Unfortunately disqualified for two pace, but that's okay. That's okay. I actually am an in agreeance here We will try it again there but there is an automatic disqualification for two pastes so petty It's just rules. It's just rules. All right, well then I gotta. It's not petty, it's just rules. It's just rules. All right, it's not petty, it's actually pasty. It's pastes.
Starting point is 01:52:10 It's pastes. But also, yes, we love you, Ben, and I would love to do just like a day of eating hot shit. I feel like we got it. If you're down. I feel like we got it. So my list pales in comparison. I wanted to retire after I saw Ben's list, but uh I guess I need to keep going
Starting point is 01:52:26 So my number five is my go-to for most things That requires a little bit of heat and that is your fine bottle of sriracha also known as Cock-sauce because of the chicken that's on the front. It's a rooster. Huh? I have just never never in my life has anybody ever said in my presence, cock sauce, I'm just gonna, and that extends to anything. I've never heard that term ever related to hot sauce
Starting point is 01:52:55 or anything else, just for the record. In today's climate with everything going on this week. You know what, GC, GC, why don't you just hang out a little bit, alright? You'll hold on to a weight. Number four is one of my favorites to put on like fried chicken, and that is Louisiana hot sauce. Which is amazing. It's got like a tang to it. I love it. I can just douse anything in that. My number three, they actually came to me and they were like, what should we name this hot sauce?
Starting point is 01:53:26 I was like, look no further, just call it Frank's Red Hot. Why this isn't one through five is beyond me. Yeah, why? All the different variations and flavors. Wait, what? Okay, coming in at number two. Frank doesn't get his own bits anymore. Like Jesus, you could have gone like
Starting point is 01:53:44 Frank's Red Hot Sweet Chili, Frank's Red Hot BBQ, Frank's Buffalo, like you could have just done Frank's, Frank's, Frank's Red Hot. I'm just a humble engineer, right? I mean it could have been. So, my number two has been the hot sauce that I've eaten all my life. It was like a staple in the household and I can't live without it. It is just your typical Tabasco company. I mean you say typical Tabasco company.
Starting point is 01:54:07 It's a very quality hot sauce. It comes in a little, I think that's actually like a perfume bottle. Huh? It's a cologne bottle. Yeah, that's what they refer to. That's where they got them. They got them as a surplus from some sort of
Starting point is 01:54:19 culture company. Legit. Yeah, legit. And the way it comes out is similar to an aftershave. To be honest, I've used it as an aftershave before. Don't recommend it, but a great way to wake up. Iconic logo as well. Just curious, what have you used the cock sauce as before? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Other than- I don't think I could say that right now. I've also been to several like Asian inspired restaurants. Like a shrinketing. He's been like, hey man, can you pass the Sriracha? He didn't say the cock sauce. No. He saved that for today, okay.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Got it. In today's climate. And my number one is actually a hot sauce, or is it, I don't know. I never had experienced it before moving to New York, but it is my favorite, and that is Estes sauce. It's specifically the Thai hot sauce. I can't eat Thai food or Vietnamese or anything without adding this to it. It's got a little bit of a fishy flavor
Starting point is 01:55:12 to it. It's got lime. It's amazing. So good that I bought some for Ricky Jack and he immediately turned his nose up and was like, oh, this isn't hot sauce. I'm like, it's a fucking gift dude. Like, can you just take a gift? Then he enjoyed it so much he showed me a picture where he had dumped half the bottle on one piece of chicken. And then, God bless him, he sent me a variation of all the different flavors. Oh, what a nice guy that guy is. Via mail, in my opinion a way of saying thank you. Or he felt guilty because he's like, I really did shit all over this when Frank handed me this not a cheap bottle of hot sauce
Starting point is 01:55:46 You know what that's my list. Those are my favorites. Please take it away Connor I do love I do love how you went like brand name brand name brand name brand name like niche hot sauce It's a New York based company. I will say definitely no No doubt it qualifies as a hot sauce it is a Thai hot sauce hundred percent. I think when you read the ingredients it just seemed more like a medley of like seasonings but I definitely it puts a pinch on whatever I
Starting point is 01:56:13 wanted to and I do have to admit for the list I wanted to give it a shine but like Tabasco is kind of my go-to for anything. That's your daily driver as they call it. The daily driver. Alright here we go number five your number two number two, Frank, go-to. It's at essentially every restaurant. I think it is the most popular hot sauce by name
Starting point is 01:56:34 asked for at restaurants, and that's Louisiana's own. That is Tabasco. Love. You know, oh. Love of vinegar based. I think it's just three ingredients. I think it's just salt. Simple. I mean, salt, vinegar and peppers.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Peppers, yeah. That's all it is. Nice and simple. This on like a nice hard boiled egg, eggs period. Chicken. Scrambled, it's solid. Rice. It's a good breakfast.
Starting point is 01:56:58 It's good with like anything. Absolutely love Tabasco. Next up, one of the hotter ones that I enjoy, but I do enjoy it often, it's a Mexican hot sauce, Valentina, but we're going Valentina Black Label, the extra hot one. Valentina is like my response to Frank's Louisiana. Not gonna be that expensive, gonna be like kind of like the bottom shelf, but it's gonna be widely available at every grocery store, very popular. Valentina Black Label, get the extra hot going there.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Next up, more niche, but also very widely available. They're not gonna have them at a restaurant, but they're gonna have it at most major grocery stores. Number three, that's the Aardvark Habanero. Oh, that looks awesome. Hot sauce. It's just a quality sauce right there. Oh, wow. Hot, but it's very flavorful.
Starting point is 01:57:46 It's not really like, it's not like the thin vinegary-ness of a Tabasco. It's a very solid sauce, which leads me to number two, very similar. Not gonna find it in restaurants, but you will find it at most major grocery stores. That is Yellowbird Habanero hot sauce. This one comes in like a Sriracha type bottle.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Also just very solid hot sauce, just adds a nice flavor. They make a great line, and they've been featured on Hot Ones before. Oh, they're great. That's actually where I learned about it was. Very solid. From Hot Ones. And then number one, I bookend it
Starting point is 01:58:19 with two different types of Tabasco. My all time favorite, the Chipotle edition of Tabasco, that dark red. Absolutely love this one. People think that this is Chipotle's own, like people used to steal this from Chipotle's restaurants and be like, oh, you can only get it here? It's like, nah man, this is a widely distributed one.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Is Rick getting excited about the hot sauce? No, I think he's disappointed. I'm okay with that Absolutely love this hot sauce. You know what a chipotle is Good dry dry at jalapeno. Yeah, I like it those nice smoky love it love a nice smoky flavor Shut up. That was that was a fantastic list ruined by the young there. Oh, you don't like the Chipotle The smoke is not I love You're putting on the hot sauce for the vinegar
Starting point is 01:59:05 flavor. Yeah, love the smoke. Love the smoke. Oh, what a good list. That was just Asko. Yeah, Tabasco is great. Tabasco makes it any flavor. Just Tabasco. I'm saying Tabasco. No, no, not Chipotle though. Just just the Tabasco. All right, we're gonna start number five. Did we all start here? No, what was your five? Tabasco. Okay. My five is Sriracha where Frank also started. Solid sauce. That brand in particular, I'm not calling it what Frank called it, is the one with the rooster on it.
Starting point is 01:59:35 It has book. Oh, wow. What they're showing is that you see that it does actually say cock sauce. Is this Wikipedia and Frank just edited it? It's quite good. It's good across different things, but my reason it's number five and has an advanced hire, like I like the combination of sweet and spicy, not universal enough. And it should be clear
Starting point is 01:59:59 for this list, like I am a hot sauce connoisseur, I have had numerous different types of hot sauce. I wanted to go pretty widely available. I wanted to go like across the board. Some of my dailies, some of the ones I use regularly, I don't want to go to like niche. I didn't want to go to, um, hipster on some of these picks. So rocha is a great one, but there's certain dishes that I'm going to go for something else instead of sriracha. So that's why it doesn't climb higher.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Number four, your favorite Tabasco. Love it. Love a Tabasco. Simple ingredients, vinegar base, like good pepper taste, good texture, liquidy but provides enough thickness to really make sure that you get a good coating. And as the people in this control room and this studio can attest to, I put a lot of hot sauce on the things I eat so I need to have something that can withstand that. Always available. Always available.
Starting point is 02:00:53 You can get this anywhere. It's a great hot sauce. People want in the control room at all times. Number three, I'm shocked but I share this with somebody and that's Valentina. Oh yeah. I know I didn't go the extra hot because was, again, I was trying to go widely available, but the regular Valentina, I think, is the best Mexican hot sauce.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Like there is obviously the tapatillo and the chalula. I go to Valentina a little bit thicker. I started on chalula, loved chalula, never really got into tapatillo, then made the switch over to Valentina. Thickness, flavor, I feel like Valentina is the best one. Have you ever had like a bag of potato chips handed to you at like a Mexican torta place or whatever where they just shower it with Valentina and lime right on the potato chips? I have not but by default when
Starting point is 02:01:35 I have chips even if I have guac the Valentina goes in the guac or I put Valentina on it. I love Valentina and Shevchenko, Shout out. Number two, this was previously Korean paste, but it has been edited because I was shamed by Jordan. You know, just putting that out there. Number two, Crystal. Crystal hot sauce. Shout out to an OG. Shout out to a legend. The original Louisiana hot sauce. I was going to say, I see this in the same category as Louisiana. Louisiana. I was gonna say I see this in the same category as Louisiana. It is in the same category, slightly different flavor profile, a little less salt than Louisiana, but a really solid, a little bit thinner, but really really solid hot sauce. You can pretty much get it anywhere. You have to look a little bit,
Starting point is 02:02:20 it's not gonna be like the one that they have at the table at most places, but a very solid Louisiana vinegar based hot sauce. A lot of my list is going to be that vinegar base. I've already got two on there. And number one is another classic. It's a, that Louisiana sauce. Hell yeah. Number one, number one, most versatile. It is 99 cent hot sauce. That's what's so brilliant about it. That is what's so brilliant about the Louisiana hot sauce. It is my, it is my favorite of the Louisiana style ones, the vinegar based ones.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Um, I feel like it has the right spice level, the good, um, uh, the best pepper consistency. There are many who will say crystal is better. In fact, like, I feel like that's kind of like the two, the two horse race. Many will pick crystal. Crystal was off my list previously. I had the gochujang on on my list as number two but those two you
Starting point is 02:03:11 can't go wrong with and and you also like in general my favorite style of hot sauce is that vinegar based with with the like almost watery kind of feel to it okay but goes across everything I feel like I feel like we all did pretty well Yeah, I actually I have Tabasco as my number one Louisiana style one and the end on a cowboy. Oh dude Startlingly similar you're speaking my business man someone I saw in the chat and I have had this before the Tabasco family reserve sauce what is the flavor of that? Like what is the difference? Is that the one that comes in a decanter?
Starting point is 02:03:48 You gotta like pour it out? Nah, nah, nah, it's just like different peppers that they use. I'll look into it. Oh, Kareos? Ben Hefner updated quickly. Aged? He says Gochujang, he knows it's not a typical hot sauce
Starting point is 02:04:00 when you pour it on, but he says, it's the best condiment on a burger actually. Not a hot sauce, but it's a condiment. Oh. Oh okay I didn't realize we were ranking burger condiments. Listen, the guy helps us out every day. Ben Hefner goes out on a limb one time and is like let me contribute to this and we're just like no! It's exactly what happens. Shout out to Ben Hefner, an absolute legend. We really appreciate everything he does for the show. He's just incorrect in this scenario. That's okay. There'll be another day for pastes, maybe. Not everyone can have banger takes like you, Rick.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Yeah, naturally. For somebody that wants to be on Hot Ones, Rick, this list is really interesting. Wow. He's picking his favorite, not the hottest. That's right, that's right. He knows so much about this. Important to note
Starting point is 02:04:50 These are very enjoyable sauces and this is this is why I picked them because I'm gonna put this on stuff Once you start crossing this threshold once you start creeping up to the habanero sauces once you get then you start getting to like The Thai chili the ghost peppers into the Reapers and things like that The the meal itself is no longer enjoyable. It is actually becoming a test of endurance. Now granted, I'm up for the challenge. I'm ready for that. But I was trying to go with sauces that I use on the regular and really enjoy.
Starting point is 02:05:17 But it's a, I will say it's a fair criticism by you. Yeah. Yeah, it's just an observation. It's coming a little hot. That's fair, it's fair. I could have come with like, Da Bomb number one and all these crazy ones and all these things, but I tried to go a little more like,
Starting point is 02:05:30 what am I actually gonna put in my meals? What am I gonna enjoy day to day? I'm with you, and availability matters as well. Yeah. I don't wanna, if we did like a beer's list, I don't wanna know about your local 12% IPA that you got down the road. I will say though, back in the day,
Starting point is 02:05:46 when I was growing up, these things were kind of not widely available. It's like you had your local hot sauce, like whatever was at the local stores that you went to or whatever was at your local restaurants. Peets? Exactly, Texas Peets was a popular one. Now that the advent of the internet and online shopping
Starting point is 02:06:04 and all these things these cut It has exposed me to so many new ones, which is the incredible part It's like almost all of them are available hot ones has their own Heatness line Dustin Poirier who did not make any of our list, but is a very good hot sauce Oh, it's a sauce is available for for people. So yeah, shout out shout out to all the hot sauce makers out there I'm a fan And then shout out to you. Shout out to Ben brother. Ben, three solid hot sauces in two-paste incredible It was incredible work three hot sauces in two-paste. All right those the
Starting point is 02:06:34 Pound-for-pound rankings of hot sauces Frankie. We got any voicemails brother. Damn right we do I From Tucson, Arizona after my helicopter flight school For some reason I was just thinking about you guys while watching the show Have you guys ever seen those videos where people? Do like they create their perfect fighter, you know They're striking your wrestling your conditioning your IQ. Yeah, if you guys Had to create your perfect fighter and then put them one up against each other Who would win and we can even make this a tournament or any way you'd like.
Starting point is 02:07:25 It's all up to you guys. You make the rules, but I'm just interested in your guys take. Appreciate you and good luck out there. Good luck to you, man. Congratulations on your helicopter flight school. So he's saying like build a fighter, striking, wrestling.
Starting point is 02:07:38 But yeah, let's do it. Let's do them quick. Uh, do we do, what about like, do we do like power or let's just do striking? Let's just do striking. I'm gonna go Ilya Toporya striking. I mean that's a great one. I'll go Anderson Silva. Oh nice, nice. Wrestling, give me Habib. Habib. All right, Habib's wrestling. What else is there? Jiu Jitsu? Jiu Jitsu, give me Charles Olivera. Give me Amaya. Nice. Heart?
Starting point is 02:08:06 Heart, give me, you know what, give me Dustin Poirier. I was thinking that, I'm going Frankie Edgar, but you could go Dustin Poirier for sure. Love it. IQ. Ooh, IQ. Give me Demetrius Johnson. That's a fucking great one. I wasn't even thinking that.
Starting point is 02:08:24 I'll go GSP, that's that's I mean that's very good. Anything else? Chin? Both those... Max. Yeah Max is Max is probably one. Who am I thinking of right now that hasn't been knocked out yet that has a concrete chin? I'll take Marvin Vittori's chin. Okay great. I'll block out Marvin Vittori. I feel like both those fighters are pretty fucking formidable. And then Conor McGregor's... Money?
Starting point is 02:08:52 Money. Alright there it is. There are the fighters. What's next, Debragy? What's up boys in the back? This is Adam calling in from Amsterdam. Wow. What's up, Adam? For you guys today is Um with all the talk coming to all these new markets, which was a bit disappointing, you know Spain, south africa a lot of these didn't really pan out Uh, my question is what? Markets that they haven't been to in a long time, maybe a country that
Starting point is 02:09:26 visited once a few years ago, could they possibly come back to that you'd be interested in? I'm biased, but for me, the Netherlands would be one of them. But I know they've done events in South Korea, Japan, I think Philippines as well, that they haven't been to in years. So I don't know what locations do you guys remember that you would like to see again perhaps? Yeah, that's pretty much it. Thanks so much guys. Yeah, they're going to China next month.
Starting point is 02:10:00 I was thinking Shanghai, but they're going. Shanghai is great. Japan, South Korea. Japan would be nuts. Sweden, going back to Sweden, going back to Prague. You mentioned the Netherlands, going back there would be amazing. Haven't they been to Uruguay and Argentina before?
Starting point is 02:10:18 I think they have, yeah. Going to South American countries that aren't Brazil, I think would be really cool to see. They've been going to Australia a lot lately. The, I think all of those would be. Not a country and not a return, but got a UFC event in Hawaii would be next level. Hawaii, Spain, Africa. Those are the top.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Yeah. There was a UFC Nova Scotia. Would love to see them run that one back. I think Derek Lewis was the main. For real? Yeah, there was a UFC Nova Scotia, yeah, Derek Lewis versus UFC Halifax, I'm sorry, which is in Nova Scotia. Yeah, that's in Nova Scotia. Sorry, sorry, I'm not wildly familiar with my Nova Scotia geography. Yeah, Lewis Brown, shout out. What's up guys, Jacob here.
Starting point is 02:11:10 First time caller, long, long time listener. Oh, I appreciate you, Jacob. I sent in those Aston Martin cards a little bit ago. It looks like we have some fight news now. You are the man. My wife is gonna be zero gone. After he wipes out God, who is Aston Martin fighting next? And do we think it's gonna be Aspenal Jones
Starting point is 02:11:26 at the White House main event next year? Let me know your guys thoughts, appreciate you all, have a great, great day. Okay, I think it's Aspenal gone on the same card as Chilton and Volkov. I think he gets the winner of that, beats them, and then we'll do John Jones at the White House. Okay, but timing-wise, we talked about this earlier.
Starting point is 02:11:44 When do you do that then, February? February, run through them, they'll be ready for July. Yeah, you could do that. I think that's probably likely, man, though. Do you know the superstar he will be if he could accomplish that three-fight-one streak? Okay, but let me just throw out there.
Starting point is 02:11:58 In a doomsday scenario, if he gets into a war in February. With Jelton. And John Jones fight goes off the table because of that, it would be fucking miserable. It would be catastrophic. For sure, for sure. But it'd also be catastrophic if you sat around and never got.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Yeah, I agree. Gentlemen, my name's Logan. I'm from Vancouver, Canada. Shout out Vancouver. I just had an idea for your guys' show. Since you're getting all these international calls, I thought you could get a sort of digital map where you put the pins in it
Starting point is 02:12:33 and you can see all the different areas everyone's called. Keep up the good work. Bye. I like that. I like that idea. What have we got today? We've got in Amsterdam, Vancouver, somewhere in California.
Starting point is 02:12:46 No, Tucson, Tucson Arizona. The problem is we don't have anybody here who will run that. Yeah, we're a tight crew here. If an, definitely not. If there was an intrepid fan out there who wanted to do it, we'd be appreciative. Cause we have gotten some crazy ones.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Yeah, I'm actually looking forward to the watch party this weekend to do a shout out a roll call. Yeah. Roll call. Where are y'all at? It's a good idea though. How's it going you guys? This is Andrew currently right now. What's up Andrew? 110 degrees here in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Wow. And I came across one of the videos of a tournament going on and I don't know if I didn't get the memo or whatnot but I'd like to put myself in now I'm here in Las Vegas Nevada can we meet somewhere in the apex I don't mind where it's that I just know I want to take my trophy and go home you know definitely definitely definitely bring me in here I know what I'm capable of. And FedEx baby, I don't care about no USPS. This is team FedEx.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Check it in. Wow. That was great. Melman Fight League. Still, we're still developing. We're still in the works. We're still building. But FedEx, there's been a lot of non-USPS representation.
Starting point is 02:14:01 Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seems like it's USPS against the world. Boys in the back boys boys boys in the back. This is Derek from North Carolina. Originally from Latonia Georgia. Shout out. I'm watching the Serrano and Taylor fight right now. Been a pretty good part overall, but man, I just wanted to say, I've seen them show all these celebrities on the screen.
Starting point is 02:14:34 They showed Kevin Hart, some chick on a Netflix show. They showed some comedians, some dude from Happy Gilmore. And the biggest part for me personally is when I've seen the dynamic duo of the uncomfortable GC and New York Bricks. It was incredible. And it's dope that y'all are there. Y'all take it easy. Shout out Frank, shout out Andy, shout out Jordan. Y'all take it easy now. Shout out AA Tosso, peace. Shout out brother. Love it, what a message.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Wally was watching live, yeah. It's a great night. Respect. Great night in the garden. Yo, what's up boys in the back? What's up brother? Justin from Vancouver here. Can we just say after that Derrick Lewis fight that I think we should just say fuck it and go ahead and do Tom Aspinall versus Derek Lewis. I mean, why not at this point?
Starting point is 02:15:37 Tom Aspinall knocks people out all the time in the first round, under a minute kind of thing, or under a first couple minutes. So is Derek from time to time. I think it's just a fun fight versus like instead of serial gone serial gone. Dude, this is like, you know, so inconsistent recently. And yeah, I think we just say fuck it. Have an entertaining fight. Derek Lewis versus Tom Aspinall for the heavyweight championship. Peace out guys. Thank you. What do you think? I'm in. I think I'm in too. Serogon first though, do Serogon and then who do we give winner of Sergei Pavlovich Weldo Cortez Acosta versus Derek Lewis?
Starting point is 02:16:14 Oh fuck, yeah I guess so. Just give me Derek Lewis title shot, skip Sero. I'm in for whatever. Just give Tom Aspinall fighting. Exactly. Hey guys, shout out to New York Rick, GC, both on air Jordan and off air vacation Jordan. Andy, camera guy Nick.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Shout out to my Nick. My name is Bill Allen Collins. I am based in Atlanta, Georgia. Hey. Shout out again, GC. Shout out. I'll make it quick. It's Sunday, great week in a fight. A friend just stood me up for brunch. Oh. So there I'll make it quick. It's Sunday great week in a fight a friend just stood me up for brunch
Starting point is 02:16:46 Oh, there I am alone fuck and this is where I get to my Frank shout out Not only for the getting stood up. It wasn't me. I also boldly decided to order And you get it From the look on the waiter's face I press forward Shut the fuck up. You're a shit-ass. Idiot, you decided to pair the worst two things I've ever had simultaneously. It takes a special person and after getting home and sitting there thinking for about an hour, I'm not even mad. You are one of a kind, Frank. Shout out. Oh, shout out. Goosebumps. What a call that was. That was so good. How does it feel, Frank, that there was some guy
Starting point is 02:17:42 What a call that was, that was so good. How does it feel Frank, that there was some guy in Atlanta ordering a heinous combination after getting stood up for brunch because of you? It's nice, it's on brand. That is insane. Also for anyone else who might wanna try, it's an acquired taste, don't jump into it. What do you start with, how do you ease into it?
Starting point is 02:18:02 Maybe skip the cocktail sauce the first time, just enjoy the shrimp, maybe go a little light on the milk or the cream, you know. Maybe like a popcorn shrimp and an espresso martini or something, like an ease in. Build. An ease in. I mean, yeah, the shrimp cocktail with the iced coffee is just. Delicious, I want it right now. What up boys, Donny D. Double Davis. Shout outs all around. What's up Don? It is time, it is PFL Cape Town weekend.
Starting point is 02:18:36 2 p.m. Tune in, PFL app. Tell your friend to tell a friend that PFL has an app. Second order of business, big, big, biggest shout out to the Uncrowned Discord's second annual Fantasy MMA League draft. It was a ton of fun. I obviously have been there under a pseudonym, but I'm really excited about my team and I have to shout out specifically Cross, our fearless commissioner, getting through that draft. It was alcohol soaked and a ton of fun. Shout out Cross. Before I get into my team, just want to brag on my team.
Starting point is 02:19:16 GC, Rick, GC's Irish cousin, Pete C. Feel free to answer this as well, Frank. Anybody in the back? Who would you draft first and have you ever considered doing an uncrowned fantasy in the May League? All right let me put you on speaker real quick. I'm going to pull up my team just make sure I don't forget. We're going number one in the draft right now. Ilya, bear with me. Yeah we're bearing with you. It is winter down here. Didn't consider that, but that means beautiful 50 degree weather. All right, come on, here we go. Let's hear it. Let me know what you think. Yeah, let's hear it. First, I drafted Connor Matthews.
Starting point is 02:19:58 And unfortunately, this is only UFC fighters, but we're working on them to include PSL. First, first round. And I first pick of the entire league, Connor Matthews. Second, I took Lucas Bresky. After that, I got junior Tapa. Wasn't eligible to draft Justin because he was fighting the night that we did the draft, but he would have been on there. Next up I took Anfield Jubilee and I rounded it out in the fifth round.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Cannot believe this was still possible to draft on the board, Kiefer Crosby. So let me know what you think. And again, have you all ever considered doing a uncrowned official staff MMA league fantasy and who would be your first round pick if you have picked of any UFC fighters? Thanks, no video game news, been so busy with BFL Cape Town and this draft, but stay tuned, thanks. Gotta love them.
Starting point is 02:20:54 BFL Cape Town's gonna be electric, thank you Don. Little winter. Your team is amazing. Connor Matthews, Anshul Jubilee, Kiefer Crosby. Is it a keeper league? Junior Tafa. Junior Tafa, not Justin. Yeah, yeah. I think-
Starting point is 02:21:08 I actually think, wasn't Junior the one fighting so he could have drafted Justin? I think so, yeah. I think it was Junior Tafa. Eye for talent that Don, that Don Davis knows. Eye for talent. Hopefully they get the PFL fighters in that draft soon. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:19 It wouldn't be a bad idea for us to do a draft like that one day. I feel like that could be a better editorial thing though. Would it be like, who are you starting an MMA league with? Basically, yeah. Yeah, I think Ilya and Homs, that would be pretty quickly off the board. What's up, boys in the back?
Starting point is 02:21:35 Shout out GC, shout out Con. Shout out. I mean, shout out Rick, my bad. Oh good. I'm fucked up right now, the heat has been getting to me. Just really wanted to shout you guys out. Say, you know, you've been on a legendary run from the Las Vegas shows, having PC in studio, all the other guests that have been in there. You guys have just really helped fill some of the downtime between my job.
Starting point is 02:21:58 I work at the plumber, so, you know, I'm alone all the time doing service calls and stuff. It's just nice to have a little something to kills the time, make the day go by quicker. Love combat sports, I got my fiance into it, Todd who watched the event. Had to call and say what up. Shout out my boy Junior and keep doing what you guys are doing, man. Thanks so much, peace.
Starting point is 02:22:23 Shout out brother, shout out to Junior. Do you think he was referring to Junior Taffa? For sure. That's my guy. Justin wasn't available so you went and shouted out Junior. Hey, so this is like the ninth time I'm calling. I'm gonna call him every single week, for as long as this podcast is alive.
Starting point is 02:22:39 But yeah. Wait, does he know something we don't know? I'm finding that the mailman, you can give them whatever else you love, but let's do some BKFG with the real man with the real packages with the long Trucks, you know, I'm talking FedEx, GPS I'm talking about services One pound each I'm talking 150 to the third floor type Carry a place
Starting point is 02:23:01 We're in a different bracket. We're in a different, you know, fancy postal service. A carry-over place. USPS can shit on. Plus, I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada. It's about 118 where I'm delivering out there, so. This guy's born for it. I don't think they could bring any heat, you know?
Starting point is 02:23:14 Where do I sign up? There needs to be some type of system where I can put my name in. I respect what you guys do. And more importantly, shout out to Frank. Yeah. Shout out to Frank, man. Shout out to Frank. Yeah. Shout out to Frank, man. Shout out to Frank.
Starting point is 02:23:28 I feel like there's gonna be a documentary in the future and these are gonna be the highlights of like this is where the birth of the league came from, the mailman league. I'm starting to get itchy. The BTS is- I'm ready to get it going. I'm ready to get it going.
Starting point is 02:23:38 We need some help organize, like I haven't been able to track all the mailman calls. We need somebody to go back and be like, who are the names? And we need a promoter. We need a- A face of it? Yeah. James Tahuna?
Starting point is 02:23:50 That'd be something. That would be something. Mailman Fight League Commissioner James Tahuna joins us now on the line. Ha ha ha ha. Beep. What's good, it's your boy, Bob Kins. I just got done lifting weights.
Starting point is 02:24:04 Not like the weights like Conor McGregor, but actual real weights. Boys, now that you guys are all big time Netflix stars, I gotta ask you, if you had the pen, I guess you could say, and you could write the perfect ending to Dustin the Diamond Poirier's final fight this Saturday, how would you write it? I need to know from two big Netflix stars.
Starting point is 02:24:28 Y'all have a good weekend. Botkins out. Shout out to Botkins. Yeah, original series coming soon. The Men in the Crowd, expected to debut in 2026. Perfect ending, in my opinion, would be like a fourth or fifth round stoppage for Dustin Poirier.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Like a war and then he gets it at the very end. War, crowd is on tilled, everyone's going nuts, it's wild and then he gets the stoppage in the fourth or fifth round, walks it off, beautiful interview in the octagon with his family right there, package rolls, that's it, you get the gloves, the final shot, bloody gloves laying on the octagon,
Starting point is 02:25:07 he's outta here. Any argument for a first round, 10 second, did him dirty and just walk out. I think that would be cool, but then, on the flip side of that, I would be like, oh god, Max's chin is completely shot now. And B, you don't get the like, God, this is fucking crazy. You want the back and forth. You want the crowd to get hyped up to have this build
Starting point is 02:25:29 to where it's like, oh my God, I think he's gonna finish him. Dustin the Diamond Warrior. Yeah. Yeah. I go fourth round diamond stoppage. Perfect storybook ending. Okay. Okay. One more before we press the button. Set the scene, Bagnum 4th War. No, Frank, hold on. Tied 2-2. Okay. And it's heading into the fifth. Oh wow, they're slugging.
Starting point is 02:25:53 Can't believe this. It's so close. Yeah, Dustin does the point. Dustin does the point. Dustin does the point. Fifth round, 10 seconds left. Max gives it to him too. Yeah, fuck. That'd be amazing. The point. Fifth round, ten seconds left. Max gives it to him too. Yeah fuck.
Starting point is 02:26:05 That'd be amazing. Remember we didn't get the point like the ten second point but in the second one Dustin walked out early in the fifth round and Max while he was still sitting getting some water he did the point and stood up and was like come on man let's get out. God if we get a point I don't know I might lose my shit. If we get a point in this one I might lose't know. I might lose my shit. If we get a point in this one, I might lose my shit. I might lose my shit because what's the closest that's come to it? Roy Valvan?
Starting point is 02:26:31 Oh, to like that exact type of thing? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, there's been some guys that like still didn't slug it before, but yeah. There's nothing quite like the Max. There's been a lot of points that ended up being nothing. Well, they point and then they start like circling. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:44 And it's just like, what the fuck? Yeah. Oh yeah Dustin. Dustin and Max with the point but Dustin does it I mean that would be pretty special. That'd be amazing. All right Frank any time now. This is 24 and Stubbs. Live instant reaction to the worst take of GC's all time. Okay, let's hear it. I don't watch movies before 1998. So you've never seen Thorns of Arabia, never seen Heath, maybe you've never seen Titanic,
Starting point is 02:27:15 never seen Shawshank, you've never seen so much cinema you have missed. Come on, man, that can't be real. You ever seen the digit turtles when New York hits? Come on dude, I'm out. Yeah, I mean, it's not real. I kind of forget how much we fuck around on this show. How much is just like dumb bits.
Starting point is 02:27:39 I have obviously seen many of those movies, especially Shawshank. I had to push Frank for years to see Shawshank Redemption. Great movie. Have seen endless movies, obviously, made before 1998. Would you pick a Blade Runner? I was born before 1998. Blade Runner I didn't love.
Starting point is 02:27:58 You talked me into that. I thought it was pretty good, but like the original or the really Harrison Ford? Thought it was pretty good. He was in both. I like remake? Oh gee, Harrison Ford. Thought it was pretty good. He was in both. I like the remake better. I mean, he was a side character. I get it.
Starting point is 02:28:10 In the remake. I feel like it's fair to say though, like you'd rather watch a new movie than go back. You'd rather be like pushing forward. For sure, for sure. I mean, the Meg clears Jaws. That's actually my greatest thing of all time. I'm actually the most woke when it comes to shark movies
Starting point is 02:28:23 and that's that the Meg is better than Jaws. Remind me, the point is always that the shark in Jaws looks so shitty, right? It's just so shitty, it's just so like old, like if you showed someone who had never seen any movies ever, you showed them Jaws and then you showed them the Meg, they would be like, well that one was like shit, it looks terrible.
Starting point is 02:28:42 This one was fucking crazy. This bald dude Jason Statham was on one did you see the fucking shark in this shit I'm talking someone who's never seen movies ever some alien there's they would never pick jaws they wouldn't be like oh look at the cinematography from Steven Spielberg it's like such a great story this revolutionized shark movies they'd be like no look at the fucking magnitude is crazy it is a great, it is a truly inspired take. For Jaws, they didn't want to show the shark,
Starting point is 02:29:08 because they were like, this looks like shit, we're going to lose everyone. Yeah, yeah. They tried to show it as minimally as possible. Yeah, and my favorite part is like how angry it makes everyone. Get some riled up. It's just like the worst take of all.
Starting point is 02:29:20 It's like my Lord of the Rings, it gets people angry. So good. Rick, GC, fight your sausage. It's like my Lord of the Rings gets it gets people angry Rick GC Frank your sausage. It's me the gypsy king. Tyson theory Colin Are you gonna fight I'm not gonna fight I beat him twice from pillar to post. I cooked a little sausage on a campfire in the back garden. They said, Tycon, who are you gonna fight? I said, I'm gonna fight you, James Tahuna. That's where it ends. That's where it ends. Tyson Furry versus James DeHunna.
Starting point is 02:30:05 Thanks for the call. Thanks, Tyson. I really appreciate that. Appreciate that call. See if we can get it done. James DeHunna. What's up, boys? It's Tom here from New Jersey.
Starting point is 02:30:13 What's up, Tom? Shout out to New Jersey. You beat me to it. I just wanted to chime in real quick on the mailman thing here. I was a mailman once, and if any of these other mailmen that call in had an office that are anywhere similar to what mine are, and they made it through being a CCA to becoming a full time regular, then you guys just don't have any respect for yourselves. The worst experience of my life. Fuck the United States Postal Service. I'll fight any mailman who disagrees with me. So now I've got that out of the way.
Starting point is 02:30:46 He's a rogue mailman. I'm a long time fan. Had quite a few amateur MMA fights myself. Started watching in like 2008 in high school. And I'm having a real hard time watching these days. I think the product has gotten just such shit lately, especially over the last couple years. Very angry man.
Starting point is 02:31:02 And I'm only watching like a couple of years. And I'm only watching like a couple of years. And I'm only watching like a couple of years. Watching these days. I think the product has gotten just such shit lately, especially over the last couple years Like the big pay-per-views, you know the big fights I'll be watching, you know, Dustin Maxx this weekend Do you if you weren't working in the business, would you still be watching the product or are you having a tough time? Watching it as well. That's it, thanks boys, appreciate you guys taking my call and again, fuck the United States Postal Service, peace out. I'll fight any mailman, he just wants his anti-mail.
Starting point is 02:31:34 If you are a USPS man in New Jersey, watch your toes for Tom because if you lose his package, you're fucked, you're fucked. He's got amateur fights on his record, he's gonna beat your ass. Yeah, I mean like, it's hard not to argue that, like, the product is down from, like, the pinnacle, the peak that we've seen it at.
Starting point is 02:31:56 Would I still be a fan if I wasn't working in it? That's a difficult question, because I'm so- Would you still watch everything? There's no chance, no chance. I will say that definitively, I would not watch everything. Like say we get a call tomorrow and it's like, yo, Yahoo Sports on the ground, shit's over. You're done. We ain't coming back tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:32:14 But we're not, we're here for you. We're not going anywhere. Not going to happen. Say I got that call and then it's just like, I'm watching this weekend. Yeah. I'm gonna watch a decent amount of Abu Dhabi, but then like, bro, I'm not watching again
Starting point is 02:32:30 until the Chicago card. No Apex, none of that stuff. Fuck no, no way. I'll catch the highlights. I think I'd still be watching just because it's such a habit, it's so ingrained. I would actually, I would almost feel like, it would feel like a touch
Starting point is 02:32:49 freeing to be like, yeah, I'm not watching the Apex card. And I don't need to see what happens and I don't need to know. Well, it kind of is an indictment to a certain degree that like the sport has come to this point where like it does feel like you can skip because it previously used to feel like you couldn't. That was kind of the feeling that I'm imagining he is like hearkening back to.
Starting point is 02:33:06 I think I'd still watch everything, but I think it's also a product beyond like no doubt. I believe that the UFC product is is low like the week to week UFC product is is diminished. There's a lower caliber of card and fighter. But there's also the struggle for attention just generally. Not even just related to UFC. There are just so many other things you could be doing that no longer now feels as pressing. Before when it was like, I could either be watching basketball or the UFC, so I'll watch the UFC. You do that. Now it's like, well, I could actually be on TikTok or I could be doing this or I could be doing that or I could be doing that. There's such a develop. There has been such a development in the opportunities for people to do a million other activities. You're no longer fighting for attention between just like watch this or this.
Starting point is 02:33:55 It's now like, do I do something completely different? Am I on my phone instead? It's harder and harder. And it just doesn't feel like everything is as essential anymore. But I guess also a way to play devil's advocate, it would be we're not working in it at all. So now I would be looking forward to the weekend to watch it. That's true. Because I haven't been ingrained in it. You haven't been only consuming that and you can just be like, oh shit, I get to watch this.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Yeah, it's a good point. I don't know. I don't know the answer. I think I'd probably still consume everything, but I guess it wouldn't be as urgent, right? We need to, we need to consume everything, but I guess it wouldn't be as urgent. Yeah, Will in the chat says, y'all are just jaded, which just isn't true.
Starting point is 02:34:34 Like I still love watching this. The best of it makes me so excited. I can't, I am like vibrating at Dustin Poirier versus Max Holloway. Dude, and I love so many sports, like love football, love basketball, love, like I watch tennis, I watch Tour de France, I watch baseball, all these sports have grown up
Starting point is 02:34:56 my whole life being a diehard sports fan. Peak MMA, top of the top, Max Holloway knockout at UFC 300, Ilya knockout over Max, Ilya knocking out Charles, like all of the just like the best moments we've seen in the last year. It's just like, it is the number one sport. When it is at its absolute peak, like you literally get on like a high, it's incredible.
Starting point is 02:35:18 Yeah, the adrenaline is nuts for that. It just feels like there's longer valleys between the peaks these days. is nuts. It just feels like there's longer valleys between the peaks these days. What's up boys in the back. This is Chris from Rexon, North Wales. Shout out.
Starting point is 02:35:32 Shout out to Rexon. And the one that sent in the children's book about Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Oh, Chris. Again, thank you so much for the shout out and the little mini plug on the, on the show. No, thank you, Chris. Thank you for the book, Chris.
Starting point is 02:35:45 Big thank you to all you guys. Love your show. Get me through every single week. I work a lot on my own, so I get to listen to you guys every single week, every single day of the week now, which is just spot on. Love it. So thank you. I've been a big fan for a long time. So quickly, two little questions.
Starting point is 02:36:00 First question is, do you think the version of Max Holloway that showed up against Justin Gatine at UFC 300, if that version of Max Holloway was able to fight Khabib when all that stuff went down in New York City when Iacuinta stepped in in the end, if Max Holloway got there in this version that was at 300. What kind of chance would you have had against like Khabib? Second question, if you could make just one of these potential superfights that we've dangled in front of our noses over the past few years, which one would you pick? Silver versus GSP. Sorry, Silver versus GSP. Silver versus GSP silver versus jones Makachev Versus the poria
Starting point is 02:36:48 If you pick one of those to happen, but both fighters win their time, which would you like to see again? Thanks for the show. Love you guys. All the best. Peace All right, let's let's go back to Max versus habib. I I still ride Habib pretty clearly on that one. Especially with just with the wrestling capabilities of him, that being his strength, it would just be able to thwart Max. His best thing neutralizes Max's best thing.
Starting point is 02:37:14 And he was just, he's one of the best at anything, in any discipline, in anything that anybody does in the octagon, he was one of the best at a thing. He was the best at one thing, and he was fucking tremendous at it. Maybe better than anybody else has been at any other thing. Pure wrestling, pure grappling, his ability to get people down. He was a freak of nature, probably the best at any one thing. So it just neutralizes Max so specifically and easily.
Starting point is 02:37:42 I would I would definitely not be there. I still would have liked to see it. I think that would have been fun, but still shout out to our boy ally Quinta for getting that short notice opportunity. Um, in terms of the fight, GSP Silva, GSP Habib or were the, or were the primes too different?
Starting point is 02:37:59 I would go GSP Silva. Yeah. I just, cause there's such goats, like it would be such an insane match. If you were to look back. At the time it could have been made, it would have felt so monumental. Jones versus Silva, I don't think is very competitive.
Starting point is 02:38:11 I think Jones probably dismantles them. That version of Jones was not losing to a middleweight Anderson Silva. Um, and Islam and Ilya, I don't think is off the table. So I don't think of that in the same category of like, I will never get an opportunity at this. Like that could still realistically happen. That to me doesn't feel like a,
Starting point is 02:38:31 oh my God, far away possibility. I would have really liked to see GSP versus Silva and it just never materialized. That was a great call, great questions. Shout out to Chris who wrote, Mazie's marvelous mistake available on Amazon go get it Oh on Amazon go leave a five-star review as well for me these Maisie's marvelous mistake And that's it I think for the voicemail that is it all for all the voicemails. Yes, Frankie
Starting point is 02:38:54 Yeah, you just yapped in my ear. I mean we could have just said on there, you know, we're not that serious We're not that buttoned up Do we have any super chats? Do we have anything else? I don't know, do we? What the fuck? Plus money says, cheers. They did it, remember they did it last week? They were like, what'd they say?
Starting point is 02:39:10 First UFC person in my hometown. No super chats, don't ask for them. I was like, do we do the super chats? LFGTP. Oh, that's gonna be incredible. In your hometown, that's amazing. It's gonna be sick. Enjoy, brother.
Starting point is 02:39:20 It's gonna be a fucking, like, it's gonna be Mardi Gras. It's gonna be a Dustin Poirier Mardi Gras. Oh, it's gonna be awesome Make sure to get some smoothie king on on Saturday. Oh, it's a smoothie king Cosmo Kramer writes in favorite Shane Gillis joke from WNBA one was pretty hilarious. That was where he faked that it was yeah, if you didn't see it He's just like give it up Four time WNBA all-star Daisy Hicks is
Starting point is 02:39:45 here and like it just shows a random woman in the crowd and was like yeah and he's just like yeah just kidding that's my friend's wife I knew y'all didn't know WNBA players and he's like that's crazy that y'all just clapped for her. He had some good ones though. He had some good ones. Sammy says big boxing fan as UFC but will be watching Dustin versus Max ahead of the boxing as it will be my way of celebrating Dustin great UFC career. By the way, I feel like you can do both,
Starting point is 02:40:11 but to me the biggest fight of the weekend is Dustin versus Max. I think for us. What do you think is the biggest fight? I think globally it's gonna be UC versus Dubois. Oh because of the unification. Yeah, sorry, I mean biggest, yeah, no. It's that Wembley. It's gonna be right. You're right. You're right. That's that's stupid You're right. That is the biggest fight of the weekend
Starting point is 02:40:31 The best fight the one that I'm looking forward to the most is dust without a doubt Dustin max No doubt and Sammy comes back great show crew. What happens if Dustin wins the BMF belt? Does he vacate seeing as this is his last fight? Shout out from Sweden. Shout out, Sammy. Shout out, what are those Swedish crowns? Kroners. Kroners, Kroners. Shout out to Sweden, man.
Starting point is 02:40:51 I would love to go there one day. That would be incredible. Yeah, what does happen? I guess the same thing that happened with Mazv- Like Mazvital, like, at some point gave it away, right? Like didn't, he was there when Justin and the- I don't fucking- The BMF is is like the BMF is impossible to track impossible to pin down no nobody really like hasn't quite an understanding of what it actually means
Starting point is 02:41:14 in terms of significance but maybe I said this I said after UFC was max's knockout at 300 or 313 300 I said at 300 they should retire BMF. They should get rid of it. Max did the knockout that you're ever going to see. The only way that BMF will ever be interesting again. Um, they should have retired it then here's another shot. If Dustin Poirier wins and he can walk out and just be the last BMF champion. There is no more BMFs. He is the ultimate BMF. He walks away.
Starting point is 02:41:42 He's done. He's holding it. I'm the BMF. That would be fantastic. I'm the BMF. I'm the BMF. I'm last BMF champion. There is no more BMFs. He is the ultimate BMF. He walks away, he's done, he's holding it. I'm the BMF. That would be fantastic and I think they should do that. Just let him hold it forever. He is the BMF. There are no other BMFs. The BMF has died with Dustin Poirier. That would be great. Clutch attitude from yesterday writes back in, Frank you're the man. Boys yesterday Marav won an Epsi so inspiring Expected to win MMA fighter of the year next year
Starting point is 02:42:13 Tom Aspinall to poor you at Kayla love all Frank cannot read I think Jordan was also talking to him though. I'm encouraging him as he makes these mistakes but I'm like this is just I don't understand how it keeps getting worse. He did win an SB for best male UFC fighter I believe yeah and Kayla won best female UFC fighter. Who will win next year? That's a good question. I don't know what is the period of time? I have no idea. I have no idea because it should be. Because it's not like calendar year. It's something else. It should have been
Starting point is 02:42:48 Ilya in my opinion for male. Yeah, it's not that. It's like, there's like a weird thing. When we used to work at ESPN, we used to do social stuff for the ESPYs and it was like a June to June type thing. I think it is like from last June to now. Maybe Ilya still wins it for next year though.
Starting point is 02:43:03 Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting to see. I really hold no weight in the ESPYs and like the UFC doesn't get, the Kayla one they just did reading coming back for commercial. They were like, oh yeah, also like best snowboarder was XYZ, best female UFC fighter was Kayla Harrison and then just got back in the field.
Starting point is 02:43:19 We knew Murab won the ESPY like three days ago. Oh, we did? I had seen it online, Murab Duvales really, Shreley, 2025, Male Fighter of the Year. That stinks though that Kayla didn't get a moment there. Yeah, the ESPs are meh. And lastly, Terrence- Wait, wasn't there another part to that? Did I make that up?
Starting point is 02:43:40 Yep. Oh, who do we think next year? Yeah, I don't know. Oh yeah, shout out to the Epsies. Terrence finishes us off. Could Ilya be 40 without another fight? Oh no, no. Good.
Starting point is 02:44:12 good what did you even fucking think that meant that's not what it says yo the Frank can't read allegations are getting stronger by the day could it be where he actually did read that correctly just I guess he technically yeah what it's supposed to be. The Iliad B fighter of the year without another fight. Oh. He also said it so fast. It sounded like you said 40. We need to get Frankie's, um, Maisie's marvelous mistake.
Starting point is 02:44:43 I'll have a copy right here. If you could just read it for us that'd be great. Oh shit. All right um could he be fighting you? Yeah that's fucking for sure. Maybe yeah maybe I mean he only has the he only has the Charles one. Yeah but if he gets another one. Well you think like who has the potential no no no he said without fighting again. Oh with it no yeah no of course. No, of course not. Yeah. When was, when was Max? Max was October of last year. Oh yeah. Then no, no, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:09 Like Josh Vann is going to have a great potential if Pantoja fights Jack Della. If he fights again. Has anybody got two big ones in already? Uh, I don't think so, but remember DDP defended his belt earlier this year. And if he beats Homsot. Okay.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Yeah. If he beat Homsot, that's two massive ones. Marab was January, no? Marab was January. He could fight again. So if that's two, he has two big ones already. If he gets a third. I don't even think he's in the lead right now.
Starting point is 02:45:33 That'd be male fighter of the year anyway. Yeah. No, I mean, it's a, it's a massive win, but he needs, he needs a big, another big one. I'll say though, his case with like two, like it was last year where it was like, uh, uh, Volk and Max, like you, you, you can definitely give a guy after two big wins.
Starting point is 02:45:51 So he would need one more big one. If, if it is Charles and Islam, he's in the conversation for sure. He's a hundred percent in the conversation, but it needs it. Oh, if it's Charles and Islam, I think that's a, that's a stamp. I mean, DDP with two, maybe even three wins,
Starting point is 02:46:06 including Hamzah, could be... I'm putting the Islam one over Hamzah. Plus that one's in August, who knows if we see it. Number one pound for pound is pretty significant. Is that it, Frankie? Yes, it is. All right, that'll do it here. For us on the boys in the back,
Starting point is 02:46:23 make sure to watch Boys in the Bayou. Make sure to watch, wow 76. That was a big one. A longer one today, but worth it for the big weekend in combat sports. Make sure to watch The Crack tomorrow. Birthday Boy Today, Pizzi will be hosting that one. He'll just be looking ahead to a massive,
Starting point is 02:46:38 massive weekend in combat sports. More coverage to get you ready to go. El Diamante, Saturday night. We'll be watching right here on the UFC Uncrowned UFC 318 watch party. Watch us say bon voyage to El Diamante. Go watch Fightville, go watch his old fights man. Pay homage to a legend. Take it in. The last time we ever get to watch Dustin Poirier enter the octagon and he's got a great dance partner in Max Holloway. It's going to be scenes.
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