The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC 319 MEGA PREVIEW: Can Dricus du Plessis stop Khamzat Chimaev? Top UFC on ESPN moments, more | The Boys in the Back
Episode Date: August 14, 2025The Boys in the Back are here to preview UFC 319, including a full breakdown of the can't-miss championship fight between Dricus du Plessis and Khamzat Chimaev (3:50).After previewing the rest of the ...card (41:15), the Boys briefly look ahead to the latest PFL championship fights (1:22:34) and make picks for the weekend (1:25:56).Next, they debut a brand new Fight Feasts, focused on food from the 'Windy City,' and deliver their P4P rankings of moments from the UFC on ESPN era (1:51:59), before closing with your voicemails (2:25:06) and Super Chats (3:03:07).
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But boys in the back
What is good?
We are back with another episode of the Boys in the Back this time, August 14th, just two days away
from UFC 319 going down in Chicago.
I am one-third of the boys in the back.
Connor Brooks, join alongside me.
As always, Mr. New York, Rick, the man, the myth.
The Chicago loving legend.
We got the flag in the desk.
I got my Devin Hester jersey on.
We are ready.
We are primed.
We are ready to go for UFC 319 this weekend.
Frankie, how are you feeling, man?
I'm doing great.
Thank you for asking.
Man, I have to say, we were having a little back and forth before the show started.
You're like, is this good for your mic pack?
I was like, yeah, it's perfect.
I could barely hear you.
I had to crank it up.
I was wrong.
Is it better now?
It's perfect.
I love to hear it.
Yeah, I hear you crystal clear coming through.
Yes, UFC 319 this weekend.
This is the one for you.
This, this, 319 is fantastic.
It's a, it's a really good card.
Main event.
The main event is the one for me.
I don't care about anything else that happens.
I'll be it.
It's of high quality.
The main event is the one for me.
Well, unfortunately, especially for our man, Mysterious Frank, we did get some breaking news this morning.
King Green versus Diego Fahara is unfortunately off this card.
When I came in, Frank seemed very somber.
He seemed very down.
Yeah, he was distraught.
Yeah, he was distraught.
I didn't know why.
He had to break the news to me.
Couldn't even make it to the Octagon this time.
It's unfortunate.
And the mighty have fallen.
Wow.
Just so disappointed.
We not only lost that.
We also lost Rodrigo Cezanando versus Daniel Donchenko.
The tough Wolverinelli.
I know you were dying to see that, but the tough welterweight tournament will have to be decided another day.
So we are now down to.
Wow.
We didn't even finish the drop?
We're going to finish that, Logan, Paul?
I hit the wrong.
What did you mean to hit?
It's tough.
That was it?
Short, sweet, and a hope.
You got to get it together.
Tighten up back there, Frank.
He's a big one today, man.
He's still reeling from King Green.
This is a big one.
So now, after that, we are down to just 13 fights.
So there were going to be 15.
There were going to be 15 after the addition of Bysanger,
Souser Kaiyev versus Eric Nolan.
You can talk about the dichotomy between those two names.
Eric Nolan by Sanger Susserkayev.
He was the guy who earned the contract on Dana-Wiken's Hinder series immediately gets his shot in the U.C.
Broke a new shout out to Spin and Backfist and Jack Mack, who...
Jack Mack and the Hamzot sit down and they announced this.
But that's a pretty incredible story and one that I think kind of parallels Hamzot's own story of fighting so quickly after debuting in the U.S.C.
So, good to see that one.
We'll get into that one.
15 fights is a lot.
I can't say I'm mad about it, kind of drop it down to 13, if I'm honest.
And honest, to be just completely transparent with the audience here, I didn't know the guys in the tough finale.
No.
I was going to meet them on Saturday.
Yeah, same.
I was looking forward to that, but.
I think a lot of people were.
And that's kind of the idea of what tough is at this point is like, you don't see these guys till the finale because nobody watches the show anymore.
And then you get like somebody like a Myron Santos who's like, okay, like this guy's actually like good.
I like them.
And you kind of developed a relationship from there.
But yeah, don't feel like many people had that one as like, this is the one I need to see.
And then it unfortunately dropped off.
King Green is a hit, though, because that was going to be a decent fight.
Yeah, King Green, that could have been exciting.
Yeah.
They definitely gotten a finish out of that one.
We lost those two, but for now.
Yeah.
Knock on wood.
If you're driving in your car, if you're in your apartment, however you're watching, knock on wood, because.
Oh, my God.
The current moment, we still have the main event.
Rink is duplessi, taking on.
Hamzat Sharmayev, your most anticipated fight of the year has been since December when we did the
look-ahead show to 2025, and I have to agree with you at this point. Let me just run it down.
Please. Let me just set the table. I'd love to.
Strix 2 Plusi representing South Africa, DDP, as they call them, 11-fight win streak, 9-0 in the UFC,
three title fight wins, wins over Sean Strickland twice, Israel-A-Sanya, Robert Whitaker, Derek Brunson,
Darren Till, Brad Tavares, KSW champ, EFC champ, 25 fights, 22 wins, and 22 of those
fights did not go the distance. Hamza Aschamaya, 14 and 0, 12 wins by finish. None of those
finishes came later than six minutes and 15 seconds into the fight. Four, four UFC fights
where his opponent landed zero significant strikes. Yep. One where they landed one,
one singular strike, and then one where they landed two. That was the Robert Whitaker fight.
Complete dominance when he gets these finishes. Wins over Robert Whitaker, like I just mentioned,
Osmond, Gilbert Burns, Kevin Holland, and both of these dudes are at the peak of their
powers.
Yep.
Like how you could possibly not be excited for this fight, you're just not a fight fan?
No, this is a fight fan's fight, and with all due respect, as you said, like, at the end
of the year and into the year ahead, I picked this over the likes of John Jones versus Tom
Aspinall, Kayla versus Amanda, any of the other kind of like tasty appetizing, Zhang
versus Valentina, any of the tasty appetizing type fights that we might have gotten, because
to me, I think this is the best combination of highest skill level in their primes with everything
to gain and everything to lose, because I think the stakes are very high for this one, right?
Whoever wins this fight, I think is going to be entering a superstar territory that is kind
of rarefied air and along the lines of some of the bigger stars that we have in the sport today and ever.
and a loss could be kind of difficult to bounce back from
because it would probably seem like the other person
is going to be raining for a longer time.
So so much on the line,
UFC championship gold on the line,
Hamzat's first crack at UFC gold on the line.
In addition to what I think is a very,
very high skill level fight,
in addition to the fact that it's in Chicago
and that crowd has been dying for a UFC event
and the roof is going to absolutely come off
when these guys are in the cage,
it all sets up for a perfect night.
That's the sleeper part of all of this
is this is happening in Chicago
and since I joined this program back in 2021
I have lost count.
Dozens, dozens, if not hundreds of times
people have asked when Chicago
is getting a UFC event again.
Yes.
Not only are they getting an event,
they're getting a pay-per-view
and they're getting one of the best main events of the year,
if not the best main event of the year.
I think this crowd is going to be turned up to 11,
especially when this main event is about to start,
which is only going to help the fight that much more.
And in addition to that,
you just said is 100% true, but also it's really just about the fight itself because between
these two, there hasn't really been that much animosity. Like, yeah, there's been like a couple
jokes on Twitter about like, uh, Hamzat's going to get sick or like he's making dumb faces,
but no like real, real animosity like you see between Hamzat and Paolo or or like DDP and
Izzy and DDP and Strickland and things like that. I mean, we saw them linking up earlier. There's
one angle of it. You know, there was the, there was the video of it where people were like, oh my God,
Hamzad is 10 feet tall, but like they're linking up, they're, they're shaking hands,
like they're being very cordial with each other. They're, they're being nice about it.
Yeah, like, it's just like, what's up, man?
For the record, though, Humzad is an extremely large gentleman.
Oh, yeah.
Just this angle makes it look even more startling.
This angle makes it look like he's six, seven, and PDP is six foot flat.
Like, it is crazy.
But yes, to your point, they've been very respectful, very cordial.
And I think it speaks to what we've seen from, from both of them is that I think they know that they're
for a fight. I would say more so DDP, right? DDP is somebody who's been pretty transparent
about expecting Hamza Shamaev to be one of the toughest tests of his career, saying that he's
not all hype, saying that he expects the best version of Hamza and he's just going to prove he's
better. Hamza's been a little bit more like thinking about, like it's a foregone conclusion for him.
Now granted, it has been a foregone conclusion for him in all of his career. Like he kind of just
beats everybody. But I think they respect each other and I think they know what's ahead. And I think
the time for like the Twitter jokes and stuff
is probably over. The one thing I'll say is they haven't
had an extended period of time
together and this press conference that's
coming up is probably going to be the first opportunity
for them to really like talk some shit
and if Drickis lays into
Hamzat, let's see what the reaction is
but you've nailed it perfectly
like it's been pretty cordial, pretty respectful
let's just fight. I am
very interested to see what happens at the press conference
tonight because in DDP's
like contendership and title
era. Yeah. He
He has been kind of ferocious
He shined in the press conference.
He goes pointed, man.
He obviously bringing Israel out of signing to tears,
bringing Sean trickling to tears.
Like, that's kind of been the meme
of like he gets under these people's skin.
I'm going to predict that he does not bring Hamzot to tears.
I know for a fact he will not bring Hamz out to tears,
but like Hamzad has had like a very rough past.
And there's things that he could say
that could definitely get under Hamzot's skin.
And Hamzad, he can be an emotional dude
when it comes to the fighting.
like he gets into it so i'm curious to see what happens but so far it's it's been pretty playful
like it's been pretty lighthearted like we saw uh we saw hamz out with dc uh out there like the
the dc always loves meeting up with these guys just like just like ds i mean can we talk
about him just being like look at this guy immediately starts feeling him up like he's like
he loves this but i wonder if he loves it at this point where he realizes that hamzat's
continuing it is there anyone that has a better relationship is there anyone that has a better
relationship with the Russian wrestlers than D.C.
Oh, boy.
Here it comes.
Feet flying out.
The legs.
It's like his son, bro.
The legs.
And D.C. recognizes it immediately.
He's like, man, what the hell?
The legs.
DC with the, what the fuck is that?
Yeah, I mean, I love what D.C. does the, like, playful wrestling thing with people.
Hamza, obviously, is one that might be able to take it a little bit further than most.
D.C. took it personally.
Wrapping the tough shirt, shout out.
It says, after the way Hamzot lifted me,
I figured I needed to lift more.
He got in the hotel gym, bro.
He was ready to go.
Hamzad actually went on his podcast.
He was asked about him picking him up
and, like, they had a nice playful moment.
Take a look.
That was the first time in Fight Island.
You kind of picked me up a little bit,
but like a little bit off the ground.
Then the second time, we were wrestling again in Abu Dhabi,
and you picked me up a little higher.
It never felt disrespectful until today.
You can't pick me up and spin me around.
I'm a grown man, Hamza.
I'm showing you love, bro.
But you pick me, I'm not a child.
My leg spin!
It looks cute, brother.
Hey!
With the big shirt?
Why are you doing?
Why are you doing?
Incredible stuff.
So good.
D.C. as this like uncle figure who just gets to like kind of like cut loose and joke of people is a perfect role for him.
I think they also, it comes from a deep place of respect as well.
He's playful, but they also respect them.
Double champ, amazing regular.
wrestling acumen.
No, you can't get away
with that type of shit
if you're not D.C.
Exactly, exactly.
Another funny moment
from this, Hamza was asked
about his looks by D.C.
Well, look at me,
but look at me.
Look at my face.
Look at your face.
This beautiful,
black skin, caramel.
Your skin?
Chechnine.
Not beautiful like mine.
That needs to be beautiful.
What you need to be?
World champion?
Girls like terrorists.
You're so crazy.
You can't say that.
D.C.
Weas.
What I love about that is D.C.
being, like, beautiful black skin, you're ugly.
And then Hamzad says something funny back.
He's like, you can't say that.
It's like, probably could have said the first part anyway.
You're so crazy.
It's amazing.
It's really made for some good content.
And I also love Hamza on the back end.
It's just like, I'm just kidding.
And it's like, I don't actually don't think he is kidding.
I don't think he's kidding about that.
There is, there is an element of that with Hamza out where it's like, you don't know how much is fact of reality because of how mysterious he's kind of been about his life.
One last clip I had to play out of like, not talking about the fight,
just kind of like the lightheartedness surrounding this, the memes.
DDP did an interview about how he's going to beat Hamzat.
Yeah.
Drikas, be honest with me, how do you beat Khamzat Jemai?
Man, I've got plot on it.
You've got plot armor?
Bro, how do you prepare for me?
I don't even know what I'm going to do in the octagon.
It could be DDP by accident, DDP by falling piano.
Maybe I draw a hole in the middle of the octagon.
He falls through it.
A hole in the middle.
Absolutely.
Maybe I blow up my thumb, hit him with it.
I can win by a car crash.
I'm going to be there. That would be in the corner.
Another DDP might just come into the octagon.
Yeah, that could happen.
Everybody says on paper, Hamsa Dizmi, how do I know?
I can't even read.
You can't read.
But at the end of there, my friend, it's DDP by whatever words.
So good.
Like, obviously, this is a big thing that's been circling on the internet.
Like, I think it started with one meme where it's like the black and white guy sunken out.
And it's just like, hams out when he's about to finish DDP.
And then another DDP walks into the octagon and says, good thing I'm not that guy.
Like, it's been like this whole cartoonish.
thing i love how he's just like uh i could win by comically large hammer like that will be there
we'll have that in the corner uh draw a hole in the middle yeah shout out to john bernard uh for
always doing fun interviews like that uh so yeah like it's like there's respect there's lightheartedness
but at the end of the day we know these two dudes are going to get in the octagon and go to war
well that's that's what's so funny to me is the juxtaposition of the idea that to this point
it's been like uh look at how funny homzada is actually and stuff like this from djordan michael city
Yeah, where it's just Jordan Michael City, you love that one.
Where he's just, like, people are getting to see their personalities, and it hasn't been
this like bad blood feud or at each other's throats and hasn't been built that way.
I'm interested to see, again, what happens tonight, but it is funny to me just the juxtaposition
of that part of it, combined with the fact that it is guaranteed because Hamzaa Shamaev knows
how to fight no other way that he is going to run across that octagon and try to smash
DDP's head in the first 10 seconds.
so it's this like ha ha ha ha ha and then the door the cage closes and they're trying to rip each other's
fucking head out of this is the antithesis of uh manel cop versus mohammajave i was recently
took place at 304 last year i was recently watched that clip popped up of where like they're
fighting before the fight starts security literally sucker punches and like dc's like all right
if they want to do this i better see a fight i better see a fight and then someone fast forwarded
the actual fight and it's just
a staring match for like 15 minutes.
You put the Benny Hill music
and they're just walking around.
This is the antithesis of that.
This is like, all right, yeah, we're having fun.
We respect each other, great fighters, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada.
And then when they get in the cage,
like it's going to, they're going to go to war.
I mean, there's no other, like,
Hamzad doesn't know how to fight any other way.
Neither does DDP.
DDP is this king of chaos.
Like, he's going to make this,
like, just a wild fight.
Yeah.
And Hamzat's going to reciprocate.
Or honestly, I should say,
DDP's going to reciprocate because Hamzad is probably going to be the one pushing.
going to be the aggressor, but at the same time, like, as you said, DDP's entire run has been
founded on the idea that, like, he's blitzing you first and you can't really handle it.
Then the question became like, ah, does he have a gas tank, though?
He's going to gas out.
We've seen him gas out.
And it turns out that was kind of bullshit and he probably just needed no surgery.
But it's that fight that every time we've gone, any MMA fan in the past has ever gone,
like, guaranteed fireworks, not the one you want to miss.
this is probably the best possible example of that type that you could ever come across.
This is the best possible.
Do not blink.
Do not miss this.
Guaranteed fireworks, at least for the first round.
You guarantee that in the first round of this fight, there's going to be some absolutely
crazy shit happening, whether it be Hamsat sprinting across the cage trying to take
DDP down, Homs out running into something, DDP getting the advantage.
There's so many ways that first round could kind of go.
And that's why I'm so excited about it.
but it is that, like, guarantee of chaos.
Also, just, like, the breakdown of it.
It's, it's difficult to have a hard take, a hot take when it comes to this fight,
because DDP is going to have to weather a storm.
If you go and watch any of Hamzat's fights, it's pedal to the metal from the second the horn sounds.
Yep.
And I just can't imagine it's going to go any differently here.
Like, he's going to try to get a takedown early on, and he's probably going to get it as well.
Like, he's gotten a takedown in every single one of his fights, except for the Mearsharth fight,
where he got a knockout in like 17 seconds.
Like he's going to attempt takedowns
and he is likely going to get them.
It's really just whether DDP can get back up
and then what he does from there.
Because Hamzat is unbelievable,
especially in those first six, seven minutes.
Like I said, 12 finishes,
all of them coming in the first 615 of the fight,
dominant, dominant performances
where no one's landing any strikes.
But when he does get extended,
like the Gilbert Burns fight,
like the Kamaro Usman fight,
the fights become very close.
They become very in charge.
intriguing. And I think that's what's going to happen here if it gets extended again. And that's not to say
that Hamzok can't win by decision. He won both those fights. He wins those fights. He could win by
decision. But that's where it's going to start getting very interesting of like, oh, wow,
DDP weathered it. Now what's going to happen, especially with Hamzat having to go to the championship rounds if it goes that long?
The way you've laid it out is perfect, because to me the question of this fight is,
if DDP is able to survive that first burst from Hamza, that's question number one, right? Because
we all know that that's what Hamzat's going to do. For one, he's done it in every fight. For two,
it's his greatest method of success. While they're both fresh and he's fresh, he's going to
try to take you down and mall you because it's very simple for him to do it in the beginning. As it
gets later, you're more tired, the lactic acid builds up. It's harder to do that type of style.
So just stylistically, it makes sense for him to try to do that. So question number one, can
DDP survive that? If DDP survives that, question number two arises for me, which is, can Hamza
Shamaev win a fight that's not a sprint. Can he win a five-round fight that he needs to
trade with somebody and dig deep and find it? Thus far, the three-round fights, he has looked
vulnerable, but the holes in his game haven't been exploited to the point that he was going to
lose. Now, there's an argument, and Kamara Usman might make this one. If there were two more rounds
on that fight, that Kamaru thinks he's going to win that fight. And I think there are a lot of people
out there who would think that. I need to see what Hamzad is able to do in that scenario. If
we even get to that scenario.
With DDP, I don't have as many question marks.
Like, I know who DDP is at this point.
I don't know how he does it, but I know who he is.
But he's going to come into the octagon and he's going to swing it.
And that's going to go down.
But, no, true, like, DDP's fighting style is this kind of like off-kilter,
odd timing, not really easy to pin down.
We can't break it down.
We're not fighters like that.
You have guys like Tom Aspinall, Israel, Adasania, Robert Whitaker,
dudes that have been in there with them and they're just like,
I don't really know how to disqual.
describe it. It's just like it's this very unique fighting style that looks like it's not good,
but it is good. I think Izzy described them as the best shitty fighter on the world. And they obviously
is not a shitty fighter. He is the best. We get his intention. But it's just like even the guys going
against him, even the guy's at the very top level, like can't even mimic it. They're just sort of
like, yeah, it's just like his style. It's his style. But what it is is reliable, right? It creates
opportunities for him and minimizes opportunities for opponents. He is high pressure. He's high
volume, right? We see him in there with Strong Strickland. He's always the one who's the aggressor,
even in a fight against a guy like Sean Strickland, who is typically the one putting up the huge
volume. Or in Israel-Asonia, right? Who's typically the guy who they call like a quote-unquote point
fighter who's trying to do this like high-volume efficient type fighting style. DDP is very reliable
and successful in terms of that being in your face, pressing on the gas, and
looking for opportunities whether it be
with the striking or even the grappling game
and once he finds those opportunities
it tends to have worn on you so much
that he's able to find those openings
and get the job done.
He's an incredible difficult puzzle to solve.
His style is one that is very hard to thwart.
And so if you have to imagine
if Hamzad is not successful,
the tide will start to just like turn and reverse this way
that the odds of DDP winning just increase
increase, increase as the fight goes on.
But that early storm has proven
very, very difficult to survive
for most people. I know because we mentioned Gilbert
Burns and Kamara Usman both going the distance
with Hamzachshamai. Those were in hell. Those are the two.
In the first round, dude, Gilbert Burns gets dropped.
He's this close to getting finished in that one.
And then Kamazat Shemaya fully had his back
and looked like he was going to sub him
on several times in that first round. Now imagine he
finishes those in the first round too. And it's just like
14 and now. 14 finishes.
He'd be like a minus 400 in this fight. It would be like
we've never seen anyone even come close to being competitive with this dude, but because we've
seen that, we know that he seems unbeatable, but he is not. DDP could obviously win this
fight. But also on the flip side of that, if it does get extended, like I was saying earlier,
like Hamza Shemayev is not out of the fight either. I'm very curious. Can you imagine if this thing
starts round four? Yeah, it's going to be, well, the live betting odds are going to get hammered.
That's for sure, right? Because all of a sudden those bets on DDP are going to start coming in.
to me the question is
God, it's going to be crazy.
We know that as the fight goes on,
especially toward round three and four,
Hamza Tchamayev is vulnerable.
He is more vulnerable.
That's just a fact, right?
He has not looked as good
later in the fight as he looked in the beginning.
That's okay because in the beginning of the fight,
he looks absolutely unstoppable.
That's a drastic drop-off,
but that beginning of the fight
is as good as anybody's beginning of a fight.
The question is,
does vulnerability mean that he's not able to win?
He has won this far.
He has, as you said,
the fight against Gilbert Burns,
the fight against Kumar Usman, he won those fights.
It's not like he lost.
And I took some more positives than negatives away from that.
Because if he was this guy who was only finishing first rounds of fights,
what would happen inevitably is what happened to Drikas,
where it's like, nah, he sucks.
He can't do anything after the first round.
It turns out that was complete bullshit,
and Drix is actually really good and has lots to offer beyond the first round.
If it was that, then a lot of people would be feeling about that.
I learned something more about Hamzat, which is he can find a way to win a fight.
That's okay to learn, and it's okay for you to go to a decision.
Now we're going to have to learn something new if it gets extended, which is can he win a five-round fight?
Can he be not just vulnerable but still able to win, but can he complete the job?
Can he finish it?
Because if you win the first round of a fight, which Hamza at Shamaev is always going to win nearly,
then you only need to win one more, right, in a three-round fight.
You only need to win two or you only need to win three.
If Hamza-Chamayev has an incredible first round, but that starts getting blanked, that ain't going to do it anymore.
That's not going to – even if you win that second round,
or a third round, you're only two.
And then if Drickus wins the other three, you're cooked.
So it's a completely different dynamic.
It's something we're going to learn a lot of new information about Hamzat.
And we may be talking about all this shit and then it's over in 30 seconds and it would
have been for nothing.
But I'm very interested to see how that goes.
And much more so on the Hamzot question side than I have about DDP.
There's no questions for me about DDP.
In my head, like I'm envisioning it.
It starts, Hamzot immediately like sprints across the cage going for a takedown.
And it's just like what happens from.
there. What happens for that? It's like I know what's going to happen in the fight, quote
unquote. Like I know that Hamzad is going to put on this insane pace straight from the jump,
but I also just have no idea what's going to happen. From there, I'm just like, that's all we're
going to watch. The statistics have said what happens from there is you lose to Hamzaa Chamaio, right?
That is what the number say. Okay, is there any argument to make other than the Robert,
obviously the last time out the Robert Whitaker one, and there were people questioning him going
into that. He was only like a minus 220 to Robert Whitaker.
which obviously is a substantial favorite, but it's not Hamza Tremaya of level favorites. Normally, he's
five, six, fourteen, minus fourteen hundred in these fights. Is there any argument to make that?
Like, Gilbert Burns, he went to a decision with. Kamara Usman, he goes to a decision with,
like these step-ups in competition is where you always see these guys who kill everybody,
then they start going to decisions. Is there any concern here that like he's fighting these
incredibly high-level guys that we don't see a finisher? I think people would have said that
before the Robert Whitaker performance. A lot of people were probably starting to
think that it's like shit the level of competition came up and all of a sudden hamzac can't hack it
i guess that's just what it is it's just whether he gets the finish or not like he was that
close to finishing gilbert burns and kamar usman in the first round and then you never have the
discussion exactly robert wittaker he ended up getting the finish it was so it really just comes
down to does ddp survive that is ddp survived that and then you have to think that drastically
his odds improve i'm not as concerned like homzad was dealing with a lot of medical issues
during this time he was fighting infrequently i i talked about this last week
I think Hamza has been really hurt
less so by like the medical side of it
because he seems to have still been successful
and it seems like
from what he's been talking about
in interviews going back to last year
and into this year
those medical issues seem to be kind of
behind him.
I think he's been hurt more
by the stop, start, stilted
infrequent nature of his fighting
because I think if he had been able
to get reps and continue to fight
he would have looked a lot cleaner
in that fight against Kamar Usman
or even in the next fight against Robert Whitaker.
It's hard to do it better than that, but I do think he's suffered from more of the lack of time in the octagon more so than anything else.
If this can be the start, let's say he wins this fight and he can go on to be much more active and defend the title two, three times a year, I think we're going to see some really sick results out of him because I think you can't top that type of experience.
So there's a, look, Hamza has given us not a lot of things to poke holes at, but there are things you can poke holes at.
it's hard to kind of want to go that direction
when you see what happens in those first rounds
and as you said even in the ones where it looked
like he didn't dominate as much
he had these guys on death's door in the first round
that's kind of how it is
so I'm inclined to not really poke the holes
that I would otherwise
when it comes to Homsup
because very few people are going to be able
to survive that first round.
You mentioned we don't see him fight that often
and it would be incredible if he can start traveling
the world fighting whenever his health is maintained
He can fight whenever.
I mean, he talked about it, I believe, on countdown or embedded, maybe with Brett Akamoto,
something that he's done before the fight about how he hasn't really been going out as much
because he just wants to say healthy, focus on fighting, focused on his family.
So if he's healthy, he can travel the world, and we get an active Hamzaa Chmive.
If he's able to become champion on Saturday night, it could be very, very interesting for the UFC.
I saw he just hit 10 million followers on Instagram.
He is a superstar.
One of the thing that I would have to say about, like, the step of him in competition,
is there any concern on your part about him being?
fully at middleweight now.
Like the past has been Robert Whitaker,
Gerald Mearshard.
I know he fought Kamar Usman at middleweight,
but Kamar Usman is obviously a welterweight.
He spent time at welterweight.
Or is it just like, he's so big it doesn't matter.
He's so big it doesn't matter.
And also, I think it's a benefit
to now not be having to make that way cut to 170.
That is, I mean, he is not 10 feet tall
and not three feet taller than DDP,
but he is bigger than DDP.
He is thicker than a lot of middle weights
that he's going to face
and middle weights out there.
And so I think it's a big benefit for him to not even have to think about that 170.
Now, granted, he's been talking all this stuff about three titles, so maybe that reenters
the fold.
For now, I'm much more happy and interested in him as a middleweight.
One more thing on the level of competition thing.
It is one thing to go like the level of competition is increasing and maybe the performances
haven't been as spectacular as the ones against earlier opposition.
The difference, though, is you hear the people in the training room.
with him, you hear the people who talk about, like, I felt his strength, I felt his grip,
that translate. It doesn't, it doesn't matter what level of competition you are. When you are a freak
athlete, when you are freakishly strong the way that Hamza Atchamaya is, it doesn't matter if it's
you in there, this guy in there, or another guy in there, the strength, the technique, the athleticism
is going to translate. And so I'm not, I'm not worried or concerned about him come Saturday.
Well, a thousand percent. Like, we mentioned the being close to finishing Burns and Usman. He
obviously ran through Whitaker. Yeah. And he also ran through.
Kevin Holland, like, he can still do this.
And to put credence to what you just said about, like, the highest level dudes giving
him praise, the guys working with him.
I was watching Volk breakdown of the fight and just, like, the respect that he has for
Hamzat Tremayev's wrestling.
He's, like, showing footage of him wrestling with Olympic gold medalists, like, just
after they had won their gold and, like, Hamzots being able to go up against it.
Like, watching, like, embedded this week, Hamzad is just, like, a die-hard wrestling dude.
Like, right now his Instagram picture is just a Russian wrestler gold medalist.
Like he's training at these facilities in Russia that have produced so many Olympic gold medalists.
Like he lives and breathes wrestling.
Like his wrestling is unbelievable.
And then he's giant.
He's fast.
He's strong as hell.
He is super athletic.
Like it is a nightmare for anyone, whether it's 170 or 185.
Yeah.
And the other thing about him is unlike, let's say, like, the other like primarily dominant grapplers that we've seen in the past.
Like let's use Habib as an example just because he's probably the most obvious or the easiest like template.
it, the striking is better.
Maybe not in terms, like, by the end of his career, Habib actually became a decent technical
striker.
Like, even like an Islam Makachev is a very decent striker, but the power is different.
I was going to say he can score.
The power is very different with what Hamzat's able to generate versus some of these other
guys.
And so even if he's not successful in the wrestling, it's not like you're out of the water.
Like, he's wild and he throws, and you've really got to be wary of what he can do with
the power as well.
Also, his takedowns are so unique.
like he's not just tackling you
no like he's the transitions
he makes from striking into getting in
on you are so quick it's like you blink
well he's just like he's already in on you it's not
this like MMA wrestling that you see
where it's like you try for a double
maybe you don't even try for a single
you reset and then do it again like
he is going to chain wrestle he is going to
get you down the same way Habib used to do like
Habib is going to grab you and he's going to
figure out the path and the method to getting you
to the floor hums that's the same way
except you combine that with that like insane
strength where he can just lift DC up like he's a baby. Well, that, and then once he gets you down,
he ain't laying on you, bro. This ain't your, this ain't your blanket to put you to bed. This man is
going to start working, but it's different kind of put into bed. He has insane submissions. He's got,
he's got insane power on ground and pound, everything like that. Yeah, I mean, he's just a freak.
He's just a freak. But on the other side, so is DDP. He is 100%. DDP is, as we talked about,
beyond being unique he is just very tough he is uh like he he he to me strikes me as like a
um he reminds me of other pro athletes in other sports and i don't always say that about
mhm fighters because i don't think it always translates to me he reminds me of like the lebrons
and the other athletes of other sports because he has this like will to win and this idea
and how he carries himself like he's always been a champion like he was born a champion
He was bred to be a champion.
This is just a manifestation of something that he already knew about himself.
And there was no doubt in his mind.
He knows he's a one of one.
He knows he's a specimen.
He knows he's,
and he carries himself accordingly.
Like it is not,
it is not,
I realized what I was once I became a champion.
Or getting championship gold was like this thing.
He expected to be a champion.
And once he got there,
he carried himself like he expected to be a champion.
And he always has the right thing to say,
I'm using right in quotes,
because maybe it's not PC,
But I mean, like, he always has something slick or smart or interesting or intriguing to say about it.
He respects his opponents.
He's very analytical.
He thinks about the game in a different way than a lot of different people.
I have a great respect for DDP, I think, as a champion.
And I think he's a little bit unique, even in that regard, beyond the fighting style, of how he carries himself in comparison to other champions who have come before him or even other champions we have now.
Well, he's a fantastic champion.
And that's why what we said last week rings so true when it comes to this fight.
if you're a mixed martial arts fan
it really doesn't matter who wins
like Hamza wins
you have this new star
where it's just like
all right
the Shemi Vara begins
how long can he go
how big of a star
can he become
if DDP wins
it's just like
this guy is really the dude
like he's just beating everyone
that you put in front of him
he's truly knocking on the door
of best middle weight of all time
resume wise right
like certainly it's always
going to be a tough conversation
and we get into this
when we talk about like Volk Aldo
and that division
and even like
Bant away with Dominic Cruz
or Demetrius Johnson with flywave
because of that title reign.
Anderson Silva is going to be tough
to knock off that perch
because of how long that title reign was
and because of how many title defenses
are associated with it.
But if you look at the names on the resume,
it is fucking wild
what DDP has been able to do to this point.
And if you add a guy like Hamzaa Chamaev
and being the first one to defeat him,
it's going to be pretty hard
to argue against DDP's resume at that point.
Sean Strickland twice.
He's real lot of Sonia.
Robert Whitaker.
Brad Tavares there until
Derek Brunson
By the way
There's no easy guys
Even on the UFC list
That you're rattling off
Like a Derek Brunson
It's like a top
Perennial top guy
Brad Tavarez has been around
Forever as a top contender
In that division
There's none of those like
Oh who the fuck is that guy
That he fought
Like he just beat the shit
At a real top guys
It's incredible
Right now the line for this one
Minus 258 Hamzaa
Hamzaa plus 210
Drix duplasi
My take is
Whoever wins
that's going to be the last time
you're going to see a line
like that for him for a while.
If Drake's 2 plus he wins,
you're not going to see him as a dog
for a very long time.
Hamza Shamaev wins,
especially in the fashion
that Hamza Shemai of wins in,
you're going to be paying
minus 400,
minus 500 for each of his fights.
Yeah.
And it's like
when Marab started winning,
there was this like
we're finally seeing it.
Underrating of it,
but like with Hamza it's going to be
oh, back to minus 1,000 he goes.
Like as soon as if Hamzaat wins,
as soon as that,
happens, it's going to be like nobody is being this guy, nobody's going to give anybody a chance,
and we're going to kind of have that like rarefied territory where it's like, they're going to be
creating people to beat this guy because of how dominant it would have looked. And I understand
matchups make odds, styles make fights, but Marab was close to a plus 300 at the beginning of this
year. And now he's going to be defending his title against Corey Sanhagen at like a minus 450.
Yeah, you eventually people say all the tests that we wanted you to
pass, all the bars that we needed you to jump have been cleared, right? And so, to me,
this will be a massive bar for Hamzaa Chamaev to clear. Saturday night, 12.45 a.m. Eastern, 11.45
p.m. Central, United Center. Whose waist is Dana White wrapping that belt around?
I think Hamzaa Chamaev, but, but if you tell me that DDP survives the seven minutes and then goes on to
put on a masterclass and the rest of it, it would be the least shocking thing I've ever heard.
Like, I am just so sure of Hamzaa Shamaev's ability to dominate people at the starts of fights.
But beyond that, I do have those questions.
I do wonder what it's going to look like from there.
I don't have those questions about DDP and have to give him the edge there.
So I think Hamza, I'm one of these people that, especially when it comes to somebody who is dominant like a Marab or even like
John Jones in his prime or like Hamzaa or
Ilya or maybe Isam Makachev actually is a better example
until you show me that they can be defeated until you show me
somebody's able to withstand what they're able to give most of the time
I'm just going to keep picking them until they lose
Ilya is not a good example because I've kind of been doubting Ilya to this point
but Islam Marab a guy like Hamzat until you show me otherwise
I'm going to lean that direction and I have
him in that category.
I am with you in essentially
every sense of the breakdown. It's just like, I
think Hamza Tchamayev is going to win.
Just because of what we've seen from him, just because
his abilities are
tough to match. He's so
big. He's so explosive.
He's so fast.
The finishing capabilities.
But then, like you said, I wouldn't be surprised
if, like, I have been guilty of doubting
DDP, of being like, watch
his fights, man. There's no way he's going to be, like, a
Robert Whitaker. Yeah. I was, I was
Like, I backed DDP in all of his fights until we got to the Robert Whitaker one.
And then I was like, all right, this is it.
This is where the train finally stops.
Well, the whole conversation around that was, don't fight Robert Whitaker because
the Israel-Azada fight is there.
That was the entire conversation at the time.
It was like, oh, fuck, we have this Israel-A-Sanya rivalry.
Don't blow it by going to fight Robert Whitaker.
And I felt that way, too.
And then he just goes in there and blows the doors off.
Blows the doors off of him.
like made it like borderline uncompetitive.
Yeah.
It was truly an incredible performance.
I am also, I am sitting on a Hamzat Shemai.
I have to be holding the boat at the end of 2025 plus 200 tickets.
It's a good one.
Yeah, I'm, uh, been to, you know, back in Hamzad his entire UFC career, it's not some hot take.
I'm not some like scout that was like, oh, yeah.
Didn't you have a guy that like ages before he made it into the UFC?
He was like, there's a dude out in Sweden.
Unfortunately, and please forgive me, I'm forgetting the gentleman's name, but it was from a Swedish outlet name, M.M.A. Newt. And we were in Vegas. We were at a bar. It was Oscar Willis's birthday. Shout out Oscar Willis of the Mac Life. And he came up to me, and we were talking, and he said to me, there's a guy training in Sweden who is a combination of Habib and Connor McGregor. He can wrestle like Habib, and he can knock people.
people out like Connor McGregor and I was just sitting there like okay man yeah yeah for
sure sure he is yeah he's a combination of Connor McGregor and Habib of course like who
who isn't a combination of Connor McGregor and Abib he can knock everybody out and just
wrestle fuck them too great and I was just like nodding along like okay I'll never think about
this again and then he tells me his name Tomzachmaev I never think about it again
I forget about then all of a sudden Fight Island comes Hamza debuts he gets that win and I'm
like oh wow that's that guy who's talking about that's pretty cool then he starts racking
up another win. Then he starts really like
mauling people and I'm like, holy shit.
He kind of told me that this guy was coming and
he was exactly right. Like he's just this
dynamo on the feet
and on the ground. So shout
out to him. I'm forgetting his name, but maybe
Oscar can remind me. But yes,
this guy has been like the worst
kept secret for forever.
Well, it's like the Brian Stan moment when he's up there
and someone asks him like there's a guy.
Yeah, there's a dude out in Sweden.
I can't remember his name right now. He trains with
Gustafin and Jacker Manson.
he's a freak he'll be here soon like you guys will see worst kept secret yeah i did do to hit me up
on ig in like 20 21 and he was like man there's a guy out of south africa he's from south africa
get the fuck out of here yeah yeah he had already debuted in the ufc but he's like oh he's fighting
this weekend like he's on the prelims but like he's gonna be champ one day and i was just like
oh i'll tune in yeah fucking hell he was champ one day he was a champ one day he called it
shout out it is kind of crazy how you like the local scenes know about these guys right
Like, you, the local scenes have not seen anything like these people probably before and are like so excited for them to go.
Like, I'm sure the Cameroonian contingent around Francis Aganu is like, like, this guy is going to be the next guy.
Or in Paris, right?
And I'm sure the Spanish contingent for Ilya has been talking about like, this guy sleeps everybody in the gym and you just need to see it.
But I say all that to say, there's a thousand, there's 10,000.
There's 100,000 of those stories that probably happened where the guy didn't do it, where the guy did not come out and did not become the thing that everybody said they were going to become. They maybe have been a good fighter. They maybe were somebody who was kind of like successful. But it's very rare to be like the level of a DDP or a Hamzat have been born bred and like everybody around you knew that you were going to become this. And then they ultimately achieved that dream. And now one of them is going to be UFC champion and one of them is going to be.
going to have a loss to the other. I mean, would I be surprised if this becomes like a trilogy
or becomes something that all of a sudden like we see them fighting multiple times? Probably not
because I do think these are the two best guys in that way class. Can't wait. It's going to be
incredible Saturday night in Chaitown, Chicago. Where does DDP go pound for pound if he wins
this fight? For me, he's got to be fucking up there at this point. Top five? I might have them
higher. What are we talking right now? Ilya. The obvious ones are Ilia Islam. Islam.
Marab and Pantosia.
Pantosia.
I think DDP enters that five and wherever you have them.
I forget.
I might have him like five, six.
He's up there for me right now.
I have Hamza higher because I'm a fucking...
We're going to find out on Saturday night.
Let's go to the co-main event.
Lorone Murphy taking on the debuting Aaron Pico.
We haven't seen Aaron Pico since February of 2024.
And that was in the PFL against Henry Corralis.
So this is a major jump in competition, off of a long layoff.
As Mavsar would have been as well.
yeah like either of these fights. That would have been a major major jump. When it comes down to like
the fight itself like Pico is a world class wrestler that is his strength. He is a freak athlete
and we have seen Laron Murphy in the past struggle with wrestlers. The Mokwan fight. I know
it's been a few years but like he got taken down and controlled the entire first first round of
that fight. Gabriel Santos he got taken down five times. Josh Hammett last fight he got taken down
four times. So like I guess it just comes down to like are the light's going to be too right for Pico?
Is the level of competition raising too much for Pico?
Or is he able to just wrestle, hang in the striking, and he's able to get it done?
I have concerns about Lerone on the feet, if I'm being honest, because I think the power that Pico carries is going to be a problem.
Like, I don't think he necessarily needs to be utilizing his wrestling.
Now, would it be a smarter game plan?
Would he be able to, like, probably have more success there?
Certainly.
But I have concerns because we have seen Lerone clip before.
And I think Pico carries some of that, like, real power that can hurt people in devastating fashion.
It just feels like a bad matchup, if I'm being honest.
Like, I'm a little bit surprised that the line is what it is because Pico being minus 135 after the lack of success we've seen from some of the Bellator people coming over.
But when I do think about this fight stylistically, I think it poses a lot of problems for Lerone Murphy.
All credit to him because he's an absolute gamer.
And it feels like he's one of those guys who's going to have to take the hard way to.
a title shot, like there is really no shortcut for him.
Stylistically, I really don't like this fight for Murphy.
I think the younger, hungry, or better athlete is Aaron Pico, and he's going to find success.
So I'm concerned both on the feet and in the grappling for him.
I think no matter what, it's going to be a fight that berth, something great, like Lerone Murphy,
undefeated, will just continue to rise the ranks of featherweight.
And it's just like, yeah, I'm game.
Took out your potential superstar and Aaron Pico.
Aaron Pico wins, though.
it's just like top 10
now we're asking
for huge fights in the UFC
I guess the path to victory
for Lorone Murphy
and you tell me
if I'm accurate
or you disagree
I guess it would just
be staying long
and staying on the outside
right you have to kind
of just like be in and out
and not let Pico sit down
on anything
and definitely not let him
get in on your legs
but I just wonder
it like we's kind of
just kind of have
to like point fight style
on him
but we've seen Murphy
hit in those fights
like we've seen Murphy
taking shots
when trying to implement
that style
He's much better when he's inside the pocket or aggressive or landing stuff in close and actually, like, hurting people as opposed to just kind of like hitting them with those strikes.
I just feel like once he crosses that threshold, once he closes that distance, it's going to be Pico's world.
And I just feel like Pico's going to be better.
But the thing I kind of used to discount that I'm starting to maybe think differently about was the octagon jitters thing.
I used to really think, like, it's not a thing.
If you step into the cage, you're prepared for a fight.
Aaron Pico has fought and Patricio Pitbull is fought and all these other guys have fought in promotions that are nearly UFC.
But now I'm starting to think that maybe there is a difference.
Now I'm starting to think that maybe there is something to the UFC machine and that pressure starts to build.
So if Aaron Pico comes out and puts up a stinker, maybe there's more to that and maybe we really need to like reassess what that looks like.
Lights are bright man
The lights are fucking right
I don't think he will have that problem
Because he has been a professional
Because he has been
A high level athlete for so long in his life
He's 28 years old
But this man has been at the highest level
Since he was a teenager
I don't think that will happen
And ultimately I think stylistically
He has an advantage
Ron Murphy also does not have
A knockout since that mock one fight that I mentioned
He doesn't carry a ton of power
Yeah
It's going to be interesting man
It's going to be interesting for
this debuting from Bellator
after we saw Patricio
just a few months ago
have such little success
and then, oh God, yeah,
and then Patchy, I forgot about that.
Man, I'm questioning my Aaron Pico
but now.
I don't think he's the same.
I know.
I mean, we're going to find out on Saturday night.
Yeah, I find out on Saturday night.
This is one of those that somebody's just
going to be like, you fucking idiot.
Like, you bet on Aaron Pico
against Lerone Murphy.
I'm ready for it.
Yeah.
I'm prepared for it.
It can happen.
Against an undefeated top 10 UFC Featherweight,
you fucking moron.
Or it's like, holy shit,
Aripico's the fucking truth.
One of the two, one of the two.
Let's keep rolling on the main card.
Jeff Neal taking on Carlos Prochis.
Jeff Neal said on Embedded.
One hundred percent chance this fight ends in a finish.
Carlos Prochase will oblige with that.
Yeah, no shit.
I mean, ten straight knockouts before this last loss to Ian Garry.
And it was like he couldn't really get out of first gear in that fight.
But when he did, man, in that fifth round, he was putting it on Gary,
had him crawling to the side of the cage and everything like he was this close to getting e and gary
out of there so if jeff neal obliges into a war he's going to get a war with carlos prochus and like
he's named hands of steel for a reason he could also knock carlos prochase out yeah i think he's
going to be live against process we've seen neil in like knock down drag out dog fights uh you know
obviously the chavcott is like one of the more memorable ones because of the luke one he was
fucking piecing him up the the the toughness and the ability to hang in the
to a fight by Jeff Neal is unquestionable.
So I think he's going to be there with Prochis.
Sometimes that's the problem, though.
Sometimes when you've got a guy who is used to getting into dog fights,
you get into a dog fight with a bigger dog,
and to me, Carlos Prochis is the bigger dog.
Carlos Prochis is the one who's going to have the faster, stronger hands
are going to be able to land more effectively.
But look, Ian Gary laid out a little bit of a game plan
for if you're going to try to beat Carlos.
It was not particularly difficult for Ian
until the very end, right, where it looked a little bit icy.
He was styling on him for four rounds.
He was doing anything he wanted to Carlos.
So if you're Jeff Neal, hopefully you studied that tape and find a way,
I just don't think he has the same kind of agility and ability that Ian Gary has.
And so I ultimately think Carlos is going to win the fight.
You talk about the dog in him.
Let me just list out Jeff Neal's last 10 fights.
Please.
He deserves love and respect, so I'd love to do this.
All the way back to 2019.
Belal Muhammad, Nico Price, Mike Perry,
Stephen Wonderboy Thompson, Neil Magny,
Ponzanibio,
Lucca, Shavcott,
Ian Gary, RDA.
Is there a single guy
who was in a perennially ranked
like top contender in that name?
Maybe Nico Price and Mike Perry
and those were earlier on?
Yeah, those are like beginning of the run.
Still dogs that are going to bring it to you.
Power punchers, yeah.
Shout out.
Shout out to Jeff Neal, man.
And he's also, he's still waiting tables.
So yeah, keeps me out of trouble.
It's good, uh, it's good, uh, cardio.
It's good resting day cardio, he said.
know about that part like don't know if uh imagine going into a restaurant and he's just like yep
gonna take your order it's like aren't you number seven right jeff neil um what's up jeff yeah no jeff is
jeff is somebody who i think like this is one of those and maybe i even said this about the last
matchup but i truly feel this way is like you look at the line and you go plus two 10 on jeff neal
it tempts you it really tempts you because you're like i've seen this guy in there with high
level competition and he's always there like he he's one of these guys that is equal to the level
of competition but something is a little bit short there's there's something that cannot get him
past that level there's something that does not allow him to win those fights it allows him to be
competitive in all those fights it allows him to be game and live in all those fights but he just
doesn't have that one thing that takes him to the next level i think carlos preaches might have
that but the last performance against ian gary made me go i'm not sure he has that he might not have
that. I need to see if he has that. This is
attempt number two. This is like
if you win this one, we can
reset. We can go, okay, the
Ian Gary, bad style matchup. He
exploited something. Maybe if you run that
back, that goes a little bit differently. If he
loses here, it could be pretty
bad for Carlos Pratchez long term
as a top contender. I want
to see him come out of the gates. Yeah.
Like, let's get going out there. He looked frozen against
Ian Gary. I'm not sure what that was. Maybe there was
something in the training that he saw that he thought
if he went too aggressive, Ian's going to do something that
he wasn't ready for, but he did not look like he was prepared for that moment.
He looks prepared this week. Can we show the picture? I mean, it's hard to not look cool
when you're smoking a cigarette. It's damn near impossible to look this cool.
Holy fuck. Why you're smoking a cigarette with the jacket on the river smoke coming out. The
stash is 10 out of 10. I'm glad that Carlos Pratchez took my advice and is keeping the stash.
I think he was really on the fence. And then when I was like, keep the stash, bro. I think that
really pushed him to once. When I saw him pop up on the Zoom when we were going to have him on,
I was like, oh shit, the stash is looking sick. The stash's combo is elite. Do you think the
Surgeon General is going to come after Carlos Prochis for making smoking cool again? Like,
this man has single-handedly reinvigorated the tobacco industry. He looks pretty fucking cool.
I can't lie, man. Makes me, makes you want to light up a heater. This is not, this is not good
for the health of America. I mean, especially if you're knocking dudes out. It's,
It's a hard argument
for some haters, man.
I can't ally.
What's your final prediction here?
I'm going to say that Jeff Neal gets into a scrap with him
and Carlos Prochis catches him.
I think so too.
I mean, the power is just devastating.
It's the most obvious path to victory, right?
Neil's there, he's trading, he's doing well,
but then Prochise is a little stronger, a little faster.
If you haven't, go back and watch Prochis interview with Ariel earlier this week.
It's fantastic.
Such a likable dude.
Also, if you have not, I think it's episode one of Embedded.
they go to Brazil, his hometown, and, like, he's chilling with his mom, and his mom's like,
ah, yeah, we're both stupid people. We like fighting. We, like, arguing and, like, over the
dumbest things, but we still love each other at the end of the day, and, like, he's, like, doing
laundry or whatever, and she, like, puts a cap in, and he's like, nah, mom, what are you doing?
And he just, like, dumps all this laundry detergent, and he's like, it's so sweaty,
we got to get it clean, and she's like, no, you use it two months to my laundry detergent,
like, it's so good. It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. It was either embedded or
Countdown. I think it was embedded, because I don't think he was on
Conchis and his mom, like, sitcom? Like, what...
I don't know, man. He's just such a likable dude. And, like,
when Ariel asked him about, like, his time at
International Fight Week and, like, all these
people asking for pictures, and he's like, yeah, I'm down
to take a picture, but, like, I'd rather fucking sit and
have a beer. Like, he's like, oh, yeah, like, there were some
friends at the bar, so I was like, you want to have a
beer? And it's like, sure, Carlos Proches.
I'm going to beer with you. He just seems like
such a likable, like, easygoing, dude.
Yeah, he's very easy to root for,
is Carlos Prochus. We'll be a very exciting
fight on Saturday night. I can't wait for that one. Let's keep rolling on the main card. Jared
Canineer taking on Michael Venham page. MVP staying up at middleweight after fighting
Sharra bullet handing him his first loss in his last fight. I mean, if he can get it done here,
like are we talking about MVP top 10 middleweight, top 15, welterweight just kind of bounces
around between the two weight classes? Yeah, I mean, in the MVP joined Ariel two weeks ago or
three weeks ago. I think it was last week? Was it last week? Yeah. Okay, so last week, wow.
my sense of time is completely fucked.
We've been moving lately, man.
Joined him last week, and he talked about that, right?
Ariel asked him directly, like, I thought you were going to make a welterweight run after this.
I thought that was kind of a one-off.
And he basically said, the fighters that he needs to be able to fight at Walterweight are not taking the fight.
Like, he needs to be able to climb there.
I wouldn't be surprised this fight is going to crack you into that top ranking at middleweight.
This is where you probably stay at this point, if you're MVP.
For one, like, I don't necessarily feel like you have a huge stuff.
size advantage at welterweight
that you might have had in the past.
MVP's always been a bigger, longer,
welterweight.
The guys are kind of that size now.
So you might as well have that
speed and agility advantage
that you have at middleweight
because of how fast and quick MVP is on the draw.
And so you probably stick around to middleweight
and you probably do make a run
if you're able to get it done here.
I wouldn't be surprised if maybe one of those welterweights
does sign up for a fight and then he bounces around.
But I think you probably stick
at middleweight unless you get a huge opportunity at Welterweight.
Yeah, right now he's the number 15th ranked welterweight in the world.
Jared Canineer, he'll be taken on on Saturday night, is the ninth ranked middleweight.
So you imagine he would just take that number if he gets the win here.
Or you'd be somewhere in that range.
The fight itself, this feels like striking matchup where MVP just kind of outpoints
cannoneer.
Like I feel like Cannoneer needs to make this dirty to get the dub here.
Use that power, rely on it because I just don't think a point fighting striking match is
going to go well for him against MVP.
Canineer has done best in fights that guys are standing with him and willing to engage in
striking battles.
Like Sean Strickland, Marvin Vittori, those are like incredibly impressive performances from
Jared Cannoneer.
I think in Marvin Vittory, he set like the middleweight record for significant strides.
20-41.
Yeah.
Those are the style of guys that he looks the best against.
A guy like Kayo, who was in and out on him, right, and not really giving him a lot of opportunities.
is it was a lot more peekaboo, it was a lot more
I'm here and then I'm not here.
That's MVP's entire style, man.
This is exactly what MVP does to everybody is like
he hits and he's not hit.
That is the foundational building block of MVP style.
That to me feels like the game plan
that he is going to execute
and the game plan that was successful
for Kayo and others against Jared Kananir.
Israel, Asana, right?
Hit, not be hit.
To me, MVP is of that exact mold.
So I don't see how...
Naserdinimov as well.
Like, this is the style.
striking styles in and out like you just
said, it just feels like
a matchup that's very winnable from Michael
Page. 100%. Now, granted,
Jared Cannonier carries a lot of power.
Big dude. And he's going to be there.
But if MVP can stay safe, which he's always
kind of been good about throughout his career, I think he's
going to be able to just execute exactly what we were
talking about. And it feels like with this
at this age and now at this level
of competition in the UFC, he's gone away from
the... Whose age are we talking about, by the way?
Oh, MVP's. I'm sorry.
I believe he's 38.
I was Panoneer is also 41 years old, so I wasn't sure where we were.
Two guys that look great for their age, by the way.
I mean, MVP with the teeth.
I think MVP got married or is getting married.
Congratulations to him, no matter what.
At this age and at this point of competition in his career, like, he's not really trying to, like, do, like, the showboat, highlight real stuff on people.
Like, he will taunt and, like, he'll style, but, like, it's not like he's getting ready to pull out the Pokemon ball and, like, throw you into it and things like that, which is,
I don't think you should be doing that against the guy like Jerry Kennedy.
He needs a finish for that too, though.
Like, that was the key.
MVP back in the day when he was doing that, he was knocking guys out.
It was highlight real.
We haven't seen that in a while.
I was going to say all three of his UFC fights have gone to a decision.
I don't see this being an opportunity for a finish.
I just, I think Canada is too tough.
I think if we get a finish, it's on the Canoneeer side.
I would say, though, Canineer's chin has been tested a little bit recently.
Like, cannoneer has been.
Look, and now it's been tested, but man, he went to war with Robocop and came out on the right side.
Robocop can fucking thump.
Yeah.
But I don't think MVP carries the type of power of the other guys that he's faced.
So I think it's more of a clinical 30, 27, 29, 28 MVP unanimous.
It probably is going to be pretty close.
It's going to be a good fight.
You'd think even like closer than that, like a split?
No, I'm not saying split, but like I could easily see it 29, 28.
Yeah, I think so.
Or you're like in that second round.
Oh, like the Gary.
31 strikes for MVP in round two, 27 for Jared Kennedy.
Yeah, MVP was one.
of those where it was just like one round goes the other way, did it go this way? And I could see
that too. We kick off the main card with Tim Elliott versus Kai Asakora returning after his
attempt at getting the title from Alessandre Pantosia in his UFC debut, unfortunately did not
work out for him. I can't wait for this, man. I'm excited to see Kai Asakora back, man. You cannot
get a more difficult debut than Alishandre Pantosia. On the short list of guys you would debut
against that's the hardest that's like an ilia to pouria but like you're not going to debut against
the nanaipoporio like it's just like because of where the flyweight division is currently at
that is what of awarded kai saura the title shot coming in him and his ability to potentially
be a star and the Japanese market and everything like you're not going to get that at 155 like
you're not just going to come in and debut at a title shot at 125 you can maybe heavyweight you could
maybe a heavy way yeah yeah but chacha should have just got to say shout of the fuck
fucking new Chetcha.
I love him.
Yeah,
Kaya Sokora,
like,
you can't get a tougher
than Alessandra Pan
I don't read much into it.
Who's just running
through everyone.
Yeah.
And I was watching a video blog
of Kaya Socoras and,
like, he was talking about
how tough he took the loss.
He was like, man.
10 million views, I'm sure,
by the way.
He's such a fucking massive social star.
Also, got the look, man.
He's over in Japan,
like doing like the sauna,
cold plunge in this wild-looking building.
Like, he's,
he really does have that star potential,
but he was talking.
talking about how, like, he was like, man, I had to go back to step one. I was depressed after
it, like, I was very down in the dumps, had to essentially reset my whole game plan.
I think this is a great opportunity to do that. You're getting a guy in Tim Elliott, who's
very experienced in the UFC, but he's 38 now. We haven't seen him fight in like 20 months. I think
it was like December of 2023 the last time he fought. Yeah. And he's 38 at 125. This feels like a much
more winnable fight for Kai Sakora to get that test of like, okay, you are UFC caliber. Now
let's see if you can rise back up the ranks to get another title shot. Absolutely. Tim
Elliott, though, is one of those guys who kind of plays spoiler. Oh, yeah. I mean, don't get me
wrong. Like, the dominance with which Pantosia showed in the grappling against Kai last
fight, if Tim Elliott 29, 28's him by getting four takedowns and seven and a half minutes of
control time, I'll be like, well, probably shouldn't have given him a grappler. Probably shouldn't
have given him Tim Elliott. He has found a way throughout his career to kind of do a
exactly what you're describing there.
You do have to imagine, though, like, having not fought in MMA, he had a, he had a
grappling match, but having not fought in MMA since December of 2023, the win over Sumer Darje
that you were talking about for Tim Elliott, that is a long time to come back to a guy who
is as explosive and good as Kai Asakora is.
So while he has played spoiler in the past, I have a hard time believing that off that
long of a layoff to come back in there.
be able to do that to somebody as good as Kai is going to be as equally tough a test for Tim as the test is for Kai. It kind of like evens that playing field. If this was Tim Elliott like rolling off like two, three wins in a row and all of a sudden like he and it was just, you know, three months ago that he fought, I'd be pretty concerned for Kai because as I said, like this is kind of what Tim Elliott does. In this scenario, I do feel like we're, you know, we're longer in the tooth and the younger hungrier guy.
in Kai is probably going to be able to get it done.
Title Challenger,
Tim Elliott, that is.
Yes.
That wasn't, unless I'm mistaken, he won tough and got that.
Isn't that how that worked out?
Against Demetri Johnson?
Yes.
He won tough and got it.
Shout out, man.
So we're talking about, you know,
been in the game for a minute.
I was going to say we're talking about debuts.
That wasn't his debut because he had fought in the UFC before,
but then he left, and then he wins the tough,
and then he actually fights Demetrius Johnson
in his first official UFC fight back.
It's apropos that he would be fighting a guy like Kai Asakora.
When Kai Midd his debut back in December of last year,
we did the whole breakdown of like how many followers he has, everything like that.
Like 1.4 million on YouTube, but I do have the fight the book if he wins this one.
Who is it?
Kaiy Sakora fighting on this card as well, Carlos Proches.
His featured number one video is on the Kaia Sakora YouTube channel,
MMA fighter confronts cigarette butt litterers.
I had no idea where you were going with this,
and I get it.
No, what is it?
Did you actually watch the video?
No, I haven't watched the whole thing.
Because I wonder what the fuck happens in that video.
Like, is he actually like trying to get angry with him?
It seems like too nice of a guy to do that.
Kai versus Carlos, let's do it.
I'm down.
I wonder if they both win.
They're getting the bonus.
Carlos Smokin' SIG throws it out,
and Kai, you just see like the eyes light up.
That would be great.
Yeah, I can't wait for that, man.
I am pulling for Kai Asikora.
I'd really like to see another potential star
and more talent in 125.
It's one of my favorite division.
So as a guy that's only 31,
Tim Elliott, been great for the division,
but longer in the tooth,
I think Kyosakura has much more potential
for the future at 125.
Let's go to the prelims.
Featured prelim, obviously.
As we mentioned at the top of the show,
we lost King Green and Diego Fahara off this card,
as well as Rodrigo Césinando and DeNio Donceco,
which is the tough welterweight final.
That was going to happen earlier in the car.
So did they just not do that?
I wonder what happens that
I would imagine they
They'll rebook it
I saw a report that
it's going to go to Nocha UFC
Yeah I would imagine they just rebook it
So the feature prelim will now be
Can't have a tough season
without a champion
I mean we need to have
Of course it
We will get resolution
Oh thank God
I guarantee
DC didn't wear that tough shirt
To the gym
For nothing
Feature prelim now
GM3 versus Lord
Mikhail Olexeychek
Love it
Sick
This is how you get people
to buy a pay per view
Bangor
Two options here
Yeah
GM3 sub
Mikhail Oleg Cheechek, knockout.
Mikhail, last five wins, come by way of knockout.
Three of his last four losses, by submission.
GM3, caoed four times in the UFC, last nine victories come by way of submission.
Both are two and four in their last six.
It's just like...
Knockout or sub.
If you stay standing, I'm going to guess Oleg Seych is probably going to get a knockout.
If it goes to the ground, I'm going to guess GM3 is probably going to get the sub.
which way do you lean what is going to happen
mikhail yeah me too i'm going to go mikhail
because gm3 isn't amazing at getting takedowns
it sort of has to get there
and by get there you mean get knocked nearly unconscious
land on his back and then
but it could work i mean the kevin holland won mikhail like hung on
way too long yeah that was got his arm snapped
yeah that was some bad grappling from him there
i mean as you said the losses are by sub he does that is not his realm
that is not his world and that is very much
GM3's world like he is one of the best at that
in terms of him, Paul Craig, and others
are the best at
oh, you think I'm fucked, but actually
this was all the ruse so that I could sub you.
Welcome to my world.
Thanks for coming down with me.
But I do, I feel the same as you.
I think, Mikhail, I think he's like
rounding into his game a little bit.
It's hard to remember this because...
But he's 30 years old.
Yeah, and...
Training with fighting nerds now.
He's now with fighting nerds.
Like, you have to imagine the game plan,
the knowledge that he's been able to share with them,
or for them to share with him
rather has probably better prepared him for these fights. I think he's still one of those guys that
I kind of like have decent hopes and aspirations for if he can put it all together. He needs to
avoid the sub, but I think he will be able to get it done. The Polish prince, man. I mean,
it's not, soon he'll be the Brazilian prince. Yeah. It's not something you really want to see
right there on the lower third. If you're going against Joe Nearkar, six of your last nine losses
via submission, going against a guy who's like, well, either subdom or I lost. That's pretty
much of the GM3 way. When was his last win by non-submission? I think it dates all the way back
to rear-naked choke, guillotine choke, rear-naked, body kick in December of 2017. It's been a minute.
He's got he's got chokes too. Power guillotine, rear-naked, normal guillotine, arm triangle.
He can get you out of there, man. Camorra. Does he have the most finishes in middle-weight?
Arm bar, anaconda choke. Yeah, he's got the most finishes in middle-weight and he has one knockout.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Don't go to the fucking ground with that guy.
Just stay striking, Mikhail, and that's how you get it done.
There's a guy at my gym that looks freakishly like GM3.
Is it not just GM3?
Built, mustache, like, looks just like him.
And I have a friend who is a woman that goes to the gym as well.
And good looking guy, but I was talking to her, and she's like, I found my gym crush.
And I was just like, oh, this is Gerald Mirchart?
And she's like, what do you mean?
and I pulled up a picture of Gerald Moorchart
and I was like, is it this guy?
And she was just like, holy shit, that's him, yeah.
I was like, yeah, it's not actually.
Wait, are we not sure that it's, is it not GM3?
It's not GM3, but he looks so much like him.
Every time I see him, I just give him a head now, I'm like,
what's up, Gerald?
How are you doing, man?
I saw him this week and I was almost like.
No, no, no, I've never talked to him,
but just every time I see him, I'm like,
God, you must find out his name.
He's like, hi, I'm Gerald.
He's suspiciously not there this weekend.
I saw him on Monday.
I was like, don't you have to get to Chicago, dude?
Who the fuck are you?
Shout out to Jim GM3.
Yeah, shout it to Jim Gerald, man.
Yeah, it's so funny.
He looks so much like him.
It's ridiculous.
All right.
Going to be a great fight.
Let's keep rolling.
The debuting, just four days after his debut on Dana White Contender Series,
where he got a first round, nasty body kick A.L.
By Sanger, Susser Kyev.
by Sanger Souser Kayaev.
Get used to saying that one.
That is Brennan Fitzgerald approved
exactly how he said it.
By Sanger Souser Kayaev,
he will be taking on Eric Nolan,
who is the current CFFC Welterweight champion.
Also getting a great opportunity on short notice.
He's 8 and 3, all 11 of those fights
taking place in CFFC.
But by Sanger, Souserkaiv is the story here.
Like, he's got the stamp of approval
from Hamzat Shemayev. He said he's crazy good.
They've trained together. They're teammates
right now. If you're getting that approval
from Hamzat, you have to be good.
It's like, Hamzai gets all this approval from
everyone else, or it's like, this guy's unbelievable.
Hamzad is approving him. This guy.
He showed it in the round one win.
There they are training together right there.
He showed it in the round one win on
Tuesday night. Now he gets
to come and prove it. And you talk
about mirroring each other.
Hamzat Shemayev, who's obviously main eventing
this weekend's card, set the record for
the quickest turnaround between UFC wins in the modern era with 10 days back in 2020.
I understand this isn't UFC to UFC.
This is Dana-Wy contenders here.
But holy shit, man.
I did the math by the time he makes the walk to the time he left the Octagon on Tuesday night,
it will be less than 100 hours between the fights.
And that time he needed to travel to Chicago, meet with the commissions, weigh in again, do all of this, get back on weight.
if he goes out there and puts on a highlight reel
put the rocket ship man it's the homza it's the boers pack
it's the wolf pack is here it's time to take over
the wolf pack i love that it's it's it's time to take over uh eight of
his nine wins come by finish we saw it on on tuesday night
seven of those in the first round five in under 90 seconds
yeah it's hard to pick against this guy do we have odds on this fight yet
oh that's actually a good point let's let's see if we do have odds yeah it's
it's difficult to pick against this guy
and it's exciting for UFC fans
it's like man
not only is he game
but like you have the chance
to do something historic here
what's going to be interesting though
is that minus 800
holy shit
I wouldn't want to
fucking fight that guy
I'm not trying to fight him either
but like damn
as you said
Eric Nolan's CFFC champion
one of the issues
with this though
the matchmaking on this
I understand
like the matchmaking
in this could look good
Because if Sir Sarkaiyev wins quickly and gets that first round finish as we expect him to do, he'll look like a million bucks, right?
It's going to be, but there's not a name there that you can really like go like, first of all, if Nolan wins, then it's like, oh, just blew this guy.
And it's like, this guy made his debut and nobody knows who the fuck he is.
But then also, we don't know who the fuck Nolan is because he has not fought in the UFC.
He's just been on CFFC.
That's what I'm saying, though.
It's almost just like Dana White Contender Series part two.
A contender series fight, basically.
It was like bone nickel getting a second.
But like, dude, to fight four days?
No, it's very cool.
I do wish, though, he had somebody who at least had a little bit of a UFC name value
so that it was like, oh shit, he beat this person and you can really do that Hamzaa level push.
But at the same time, like, if the expectation is he goes out there and fucking smokes this guy in the first round,
like it doesn't really matter who it is, right?
Like, you kind of just go, oh, shit, that's that guy.
So you also kind of need someone that really needs an opportunity.
It's tough to get a name on four days notice.
It's like, hey, man, you want to fight this killer that Hamzat says is really good in four days in Chicago?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 12, 12, for sure.
Nah, there's lots of guys signing up for that.
Speaking of the Wolfpack, I forgot to do this during the main event.
Hamsat shorts.
Yay, nay, we have the pictures, and I want to throw in that.
You know my answer to this.
What's my answer?
You originally liked them?
Now you hate them?
No, not original like them.
Originally said, oh, that's cool with the woes.
Universally, all of these clip art shorts are fucking dog shit.
and I hate them, and these are not good.
Okay, I want to throw someone out there, too.
Someone did this on Twitter.
I think it was Vuelta MMA,
and he said he just didn't like the blue,
and I could be getting that name wrong on Twitter.
Oh, just the blue, not the MS paint-level fucking wolves on it?
I think the wolf looks all right, man.
He threw out this.
Let's take out the blue and just do the black.
Oh, that's cooler.
I like the all-black better.
Yeah, I still hate it.
The wolves look like my eight-year-old child.
You all really hate on the wolves, man.
I got a drawing pad.
I've been getting into art a little bit.
I'm trying to get my own artist series poster.
That's my goal.
All I've made it once I get that.
I'm shit at drawing.
You guys are going to be like,
what is this MS paint bullshit?
No, because you are not appearing on the shorts
of Hamzaa Chimae of appearing in the men of the bed of the goal now.
That's the goal.
My two goals.
Get an official UFC artist series poster.
Get on someone's shorts.
Good luck to you.
Also, I like any custom shorts because they're just cooler than the normal Venom shorts.
Barely.
DDPs clears.
Let me see BDPs again.
Do we have DDPs?
I think we have a side by side of them.
Maybe I didn't send it to Jordan.
We've seen DDPs before.
They're unbelievable.
Yeah, his are better.
They're so good with South Africa.
Did we need to keep the bulge in?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
They got to represent.
Seems aggressive.
I think DDP specifically requests.
If you ever show my shorts, there must be a...
Keep the bulge!
Anytime they go pattern instead of like trying to do like art shit, it's better.
Because patterns are easier and don't fuck them.
pattern that, like, shows their heritage or, like, shows their personality.
The Zhang shorts.
God, the Zhang.
The best art war is.
Are Ilias with the Bulls on them.
Oh, yeah.
The Bulls look sick.
But it's nice and simple.
I can tolerate those.
General, don't like, don't like these shorts.
More custom shorts.
No.
Let them wear their own shorts.
That's the best answer.
But that just isn't going to happen.
Paramount, the executives at Paramount are going to bring it back.
They're going to be like, if you show fights on our network, anybody.
should be able to wear whatever they want.
That's as long as it says paramount, right on the butt.
If they want custom South Park shorts, they get custom South Park shorts.
Imagine someone wearing, yeah, like Cartman shorts or something like that.
I mean, that would actually be pretty funny.
All right, let's keep rolling on this card.
Just a few more here.
Jessica Androge, taking on Loopy Godinez.
Justauntra's just like active.
She's just, she's just ready to go.
If that is the way somebody describes your chances of winning a fight, it is not good.
Hasn't been great as early, but of course she can win this fight.
like it just kind of depends like she hasn't looked great on bottom and like we know that
loopy is going to attempt to dig her down wrestler yeah um but i mean yeah jessica androge could
always show up is there a chance that jessica androge's physicality is too much for loopy though
because there's a world loopy style is as you said right i want to get in like striking battle
she's kind of hit her miss with it her style is best when she's getting in close and trying to
wrestle jessica androge i agree with you like recent performances have not been
She's definitely collecting those checks.
She's definitely, quote, unquote, active.
But she's also strong as a fucking ox.
And if you try to take that style with her,
I could see a world where maybe Jessica's able to, like, out muscle Lupi.
Hopefully then technique comes into play for Lupi,
and maybe she's still able to find it.
I don't know really what to make of it.
I think Lupi wins because of how unsuccessful Jessica has been lately
after looking a lot better in past years.
But I also would not be surprised.
Like, Lupy finds ways to lose these types of fights at times.
Look, man, like, she knocked out McKenzie Dern.
Yeah.
She beat Marina Rodriguez.
Like, yeah, she lost to Natalia Silva and Jasmine Jazz DeVicious.
Two girls, like, at the top of the division.
Two of the contenders, yeah.
I mean, Lupy lost to McKinsey Dern.
Shout out, shout out Jasmine Jazz de Vicious.
So, like, I wouldn't be shocked if Jessica Androge won this fight.
I think she needs to use the physicality and not end up on bottom.
I feel the same way.
Like, she needs to out muscle Lupy.
She needs to prevent her from doing what she's going to do.
it could go either way for me.
I feel like with the plus 150 dog,
maybe Andrage's worth the play there.
Like, I don't trust loopy in a lot of spots like this.
So we'll see.
But I think this is going to be a fun and close fight.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Let's keep rolling.
Alexander Hernandez taking on Chase Hooper,
who is putting together a fantastic streak here,
five wins.
It feels like he's really coming into his own.
Just 25.
I do it.
It looks like he's about to be 26 in a month.
So he's getting close, but.
Nasty grappling, striking.
he's starting to come there. I know like
it's sort of been a joke like the old man to
who are fighting Clay Gwita and Jim Miller back to back,
but like Alexander Hernandez,
like that's, that's a quality
younger opponent, only 32 years old,
a strong, big dude.
But like man, with the way Chase Hooper has
looked as of late, I have a hard time picking against them.
Same. I think, as you said, like this is going to be
a real test for Chase Hooper. Not that
past opponents weren't. I don't subscribe
necessarily to this like he's just beaten up
on old men. Like those are quality wins
for Chase Hooper. This will be
another tough test, but I do
think the version of Chase Hooper that we're seeing right
now is going to be a real problem for a lot of people
and I think Alexander Hernandez is
one of them. I really
favor Hooper in this fight. And it feels like
Chase Hooper is like not only coming into
his own in his game, but also in his life, he's got
a wife, a kid now, he's very focused
on M.A. And he's just like
slowly taking this rise. He's not like,
all right, give me top 15, give me top 15. He's just
sort of, he's putting together wins, he's getting an
experience. He's still, this isn't a fight that's going to
get him ranked with how stacked lightweight is.
like he's just he's taking this properly i like his chances on saturday he's also like physically
a very big and tall and rangy guy like he he he is is he's going to be at a physical advantage
in this division in quite a lot of his fights he also just looks so much like thicker now right
like yeah the the gangly kind of awkward looking jes super roman copy laws exactly he's looking
closer to the pomem evolution the gangly guy that came into the u scee he looks completely
different both from a physical perspective and from a stylistic perspective. I'm pretty high on
Chase Hooper and so I think he gets it done here. Edson Barbosa taken on Dracar Close. This is just a
fun fight to look forward to on the prelims, two vets, older guys, 39 and 37, but like still
obviously our game. Dracar Close, I think was on a four-fight winning street before meeting Joel
Alvarez, but like we ain't fault in no one for losing Joel Alvarez. We support the big man
on this podcast. And then Edson Barbosa is just like, he's down for
a scrap whenever. He's down for a scrap and
he lives and dies by the sword,
right? Edson Barbosa is going to try to
take you out of there and a lot of times he
also gets taken out of there. It's been
mixed results throughout his UFC career, but
the level of striking has always
been extremely high level. So I think it's going to be an
interesting one to see if Draccar can make it a little bit
grittier, a little bit dirtier, not let Edson
kind of get off his clean technique. If he
can, I think he's going to have success. I slightly
favor Edson just because of the level of
technicality there. Also, just like, we
We gave Jeff Nealus flowers earlier.
Yeah, stupid.
At San Barbosa the last 10 years.
Donald Soroni, King Green, Michael Johnson, Paul Felder, Tony Ferguson, Anthony Pettis, Gilbert
Melendez, Benil Daryush, Habibner Magamagamatov, Kevin Lee, Dan Hooker, Justin Gagee, Paul Felder
again, Dan Igay, and then you kind of get an end of the switch to 145, Machuan
Americani, Shane Burgos, Giga Chikate, Bryce Mitchell, Billy Q, Siddiqu, Seth, Laron
Murphy, and now, Troucar Close.
Yeah.
Dude, just game.
Always fighting top rank guys.
That stretch from like 2014 to like 2020, that's six years.
Like he took nothing but killers.
No.
And even the guys at Featherweight that you're listening off, like some of them have aged worse, right?
Some of them you look back and you're like, oh, that guy's not really a name.
At the time, these are all top level ranked guys and Edson Barboza kind of carried that weight.
Tied for fourth most knockouts in USC history.
Unsurprising.
Again, kill or be killed.
Knockdown.
It's knocked down.
Sorry.
We've seen Edson Barbosa on the wrong side of some highlight reels and we've seen them on the right side of some highlight reels.
I favor him as I said because of the clean technique but I'm I'm I going to be surprised
that Dracar Close is able to keep the distance short get inside and like kind of rough Edson
up I wouldn't like I think Dracar close is pretty solid and pretty tough um so yeah
ed's to lose but he is not infallible he is not invincible uh Nerselton Ruzabayev taking
on Brian Battle I can see it now Brian Battle gets on the mic oh no you did
didn't think the butcher was going to come into Chicago
and lose to an Uzbekia, dude.
I know, you didn't think.
I can see it now.
Ariel had him on, was that last week or was that this week?
That was last week. We had him on that.
Fuck, my memory is shot, dude.
He had him on last week, and he asked, and he was talking about that.
He was like, it was Becky Stan.
It's like the Kazakh fans with Shabok.
They're in there. He's like, oh, yeah, it was Bekistan flags.
Like, we watched Norsetan at UFC Atlantic City.
And like when he was making his walk, you look around and it's just Uzbek flags everywhere.
I was just like, damn, they are out in force for this food.
I was just about to ask.
I said Uzbeki.
It's Uzbekistan?
No, but what would you call somebody from Uzbekistan?
I feel like Uzbek.
An Uzbek, right?
Like if you're from Kazakhstan, you're Khazakh.
Yeah.
So those fans in the Instagram comments are definitely ready to let them have it.
You only have so many fighters from Uzbekistan.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you got to ride hard.
I have a feeling
battle will probably
not necessarily be focused on that
and maybe what the callout is
because he did tease
that he had something
but he didn't want to say
what it was
so let's see if battles
able to get it done
do you think he does get it done
I lean yes
but I don't know
there's been times
where Brian battle fights
it's either like he looks incredible
I thought he lost
to Randy Brown
for what it's worth
oh me me too
I agree with you
I thought that Randy Brown
should have got in on the scorecards
it's like he looks incredible
or he like fights down to the level of his competition.
Now, I don't think Ruzabayev is that much below him in terms of competition,
but it's just whether or now we see Brian Battle look like this world beater
or it's a very close fight where he could easily lose.
Yeah, I feel the same.
Both of them only like, you know, 30 and 31 respectively.
Like this is a decent matchup for you to say like,
okay, I can at least try to make a climb toward the title and it starts here.
Yeah, it should be a good one in Chicago crowd.
It should be on Till Kareni, Silva taking on Dianey Barbosa,
another fighting nerd get in there
that should be a fun one
and then kicking us off
the curtain jerker
at least according to the topology
Alibe Adiris
versus Joseph Morales
that is your 125
tough finale
perfect
don't know anything about those dudes
I will meet them on Saturday
I think we all will
it'll be great
fantastic I look forward to it
and then I look forward to the
welterweight finale on Noche UFC
yeah Adiris versus Morales
with Theo Vaughn sitting second row
it's gonna be awesome
shout out to MMA fighting
in the graphic that went.
Yeah, the meme graphic.
I love it.
M.
M.A fighting getting into the meme game, I respect.
I respect.
Full story coming to M.M.A.
Oh, nope.
I moved the wrong way.
I was trying to center myself up.
Yeah, there we go.
I was center, man.
I mean, the Hester jersey is looking fucking fantastic.
Hester jersey's fire, authentic 2006.
Nah, he used to hate it.
He's quick on the draw.
I saw that.
I mean, I pulled up to fight feasts with Frankie
and I was wearing this and I had like sunglasses on.
He's just like, oh, nice glasses.
I was like,
Jersey.
What about the jersey, bro?
That is UFC 319.
I cannot wait for that this weekend.
It's going to be fantastic.
It's going to be magical.
Main event's going to be unbelievable.
That is one that you invite the friends over.
You throw a couple home run and pizzas into the oven and you enjoy your Saturday evening.
Some other events going down in combat sports this weekend.
PFL.
Yes.
Some finals.
The championship.
Godzi Rabadanov taken on Alfie Davis in the 155 tournament final.
Godzi nominated for.
Fighter of the Year.
Fighter of the Year at the MMA World Awards.
Yeah, the World MMA Awards have him nominated for Fight of the Year.
Not bad.
I don't like his chances, if I'm being honest.
There's some other names in there that I put in the Instagram bio like
nominee.
Fighter of the Year nominee.
But yeah, an important fight for PFL, obviously.
We actually have a photo that PFL sent around, but I'm sure has kind of made the rounds
already.
Look at the level of elite fighters that is just.
just like sitting in this gymnasium.
All right.
I see Habib.
I see Gadsie.
I see Usman and Umar.
Um, I see Movlead right there next to him.
Who just won the championship for PFL.
I recognize dude in the elite shirt.
I think if I saw some statistic that if you like add up all these dudes, uh, it's,
it's something like 498 or something.
That can't be real.
Somebody, nobody actually, it wasn't that much like insane.
No, but nobody actually sat there and totaled their win.
Did they?
Like, I...
Let's say if you just totaled...
Like, Islam, Usman, Islam, Habib, Gadsie, Mowgli,
and the dude in the elite shirt.
And, uh, Godzie.
It'd be pretty impressive.
Yeah, I mean, suffice it to say, like,
that, that training room is probably pretty fucking nuts to be in.
Oh, God.
And, um, the level of wrestling that's happening in that room.
Um,
thank you to the PFL for sending that photo.
They also have, um, uh, PFL origins.
They have a series that they debuted where you kind of go inside that room.
So that's where that photo is from.
There's some talk from Habib about that fight.
So you can check that out on PFL's YouTube channel.
But I'm excited for another championship.
As we got the news of Paul Hughes and Usman Nirmagamatov fighting, it seems like we're finally starting to move toward like, okay, one brand, right?
Like we're getting like championship fights and we're going to have established champions.
This could be a step toward that, right?
Maybe the winner of this will go on to fight for a title later in the in the calendar year or even next year.
But I'm happy that we're kind of like concluding this championship season.
As I said many times, I feel like this championship season has been better than past.
I really like the one and done tournament better than what they were doing before.
We're getting some closure and then we can kind of move on to this like we're really having championship fights.
We'll have established PFL champions and then we move on.
So happy to see all this moving in the right direction for PFL right now.
In the co-mate event is the Women's 125 title.
Liz Karmouche taking on Jenna Bishop, a potential opponent for Dakota Digital.
And I believe Karmouche was the reigning Bellator flyweight champion when they came over.
I believe that is correct.
So this will also be another one where it's like you could make her the champion or she will fight somebody else, potentially if Karmouche is able to get it done.
Or even if Bishop gets it done, she would be the lineal champion and then you could put her in a title fight.
So I have to think that Karmu is still good enough at this point.
to be able to get it done, but Bishop has been pretty impressive this tournament, so a good
fight there as well.
Godzie minus 1,200, Liz Garmouche, minus 240.
Speaking of odds, let's do our picks for the weekend.
We'll do a brief recap, my picks from last weekend, and the Parlay Pals are running red hot
right now, and then we'll do our picks.
Oh, take a look at that, all green, up over five units.
34 parley pals picks since we started this show
13 and 21 yeah the record sounds horrible return on investment
14.9% I did the math on it
let's go baby if you put one unit on every single parley pala
so like let's say you did $50 the return would be
253 or whatever over the time spend 10 10 months 14%
we're out doing the stock market right now we're crushing the
IRA think us later Yahoo! Yahoo! Funn's
finance is going to start, they're going to be like the
S&P 500, the NASDAQ, yeah, the S&P 500,
the NASDAQ, and the Parlay
Pals. Um, did
that counter start from when
we started here? Yeah, at
at, uh, when we started here. Okay. Yeah, we were
also up at, uh, at the M&AW. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Um, fuck yeah. Um,
fuck yeah. And then my picks, uh, we did, uh, we won
like 0.8 units. That's still a dub. The,
the apex, yeah. We're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're
very close to having a very big night on several things, but, you know, what are you going to do?
We move on. There's money to be made this weekend. Let's do our Parlay Pals' picks. We've already
gotten Pizzi's picks. He went with, who'd Pizzi go with? Chase? Chase Hooper. That is who
Petez he went with. Frank, why don't you go first? Rick will go second. I'll go third.
I forgot about the metal ass. I love it. Parlay Pals.
Yeah, man. I'm going to keep this one short.
It's sweet.
You never do.
Carlos Parchus is my mind.
Thank you.
Nice.
Thank you.
I also, while I have your attention, I think he should change his name to cowboy killer.
Why is that?
Why?
Because of the Marlboro's.
Do they call those cowboy killers?
Is that it?
I'm missing something.
Carlos Cowboy Killer Prochis.
Love it.
Rules right off the tongue.
Has he ever fought...
You could come out with a cowboy hat or something?
Either...
And then they fight, and then he has to fight Cowboy Soron.
Or Oliva.
Then he has to fight Alex Olivaira
Back to back
Two old retired guys
That end up getting knocked out
I like the nightmare
I think we stick with the nightmare
All right, all right
Carlos
Carlos Black Long
Yeah, hey, hey
We're trying to get a sponsorship
from Marvel and you're not too much
It also goes beforehand
The Black Long
Carlos
Parchas
All right
Okay, it's for me
Mikhail Ola Shakecheck
Okay, okay
I'm going main event
Tom's out your mind.
Oh, fuck.
All right.
Just going.
I'm just believing it.
Let it ride.
I'm just, uh, in hindsight, we'll look back and I'll be like, yep, we knew all along.
There it is.
There's the graphic.
Uh, plus 287.
We hit this one.
I like the range we're in here.
We're up almost, we're up almost eight units.
I like how we're all in the like minus two to minus three range.
We're all just quite like in grouped up there.
I know everyone likes to say 13 and 21.
Yeah, we're taking, we're taking fairly big odds.
It's okay if we're losing.
It's okay if we're losing.
I, you know, actually,
speaking to that? I found a
someone found a website and sent it to me
all about Drake's bets
Drake Riggs? I think it's literally
No, no, no, no, Drake, the rapper.
Drake Riggs!
Young men?
James Tudu?
Jay Zahuna?
I think it's called like
Is the Drake Curse Real.com or something?
And this guy has logged
every single one of
Drake's bets. Oh, wow.
The Drake Curse.com.
And the guy has logged...
I've always wondered this.
Yeah, he's logged every single bet.
Uh, no.
He is currently up all time.
And obviously he bets a lot.
He is currently up $964,000 all time on his bet.
So it's not a curse.
So he's actually just fucking good.
He has one...
UFC is his most bet on sport with 13.4 million laid over 25 bets.
I wonder how much he's up on those.
Yeah, the drakecurse.com.
It's quite interesting.
So this whole thing is like the Drake Curse and then me and
while he's up a million dollars. UFC he is up 1.03 million on NFL he's up 1.9 3 million on
so where is he losing all this his worst sports soccer he's down 1.9 million boxing he's down
1.3 5 what the fuck soccer he is so bad holy shit he's 0 and 4 on soccer that's why remember he's making
massive wagers yeah uh f1 he's down 443000 um MLB he's down 135 tennis he's down 115 NHL he's
down 39K. No, NBA, he's up on million. Oh, shut out. Cricket. He's three. He's spreading it,
huh? I think it's the steak deal. Cricket, he's three and oh, 998,000 up. Stay away from that
soccer and you might be, you might be onto something, young man. But the question is, what is his
ROI? So he's wagered 35.2 million, and he's returned 36.1. That's light. 35 million? If you're out there
we're 35 million, just tailed Drake.
So there is a stat, since the Kendrick dropped.
Uh-oh.
So like in, in 2024 and 2025, he's a combined down 2.5.
In 2023, he was up 3.2 million.
So it's been bad since the Kendrick.
Yeah.
But lately, man, it just feels like he's not actually a curse.
No.
Israel Out of Sonia is the biggest victim of the Drake curse, having lost three times as a favorite while being backed by Drake.
Is it then, should, like, you know, not to be disrespectful, but is it more the Israel-A-Sanja curse than the Drake curse at that point, kind of?
That's the question.
Drake definitely thinks it's an Israel-A-Sahny curse.
Yeah, that's just some fun.
All right, my picks for this weekend, let's rip through them real quick.
We start.
Lupi, Andrage, I'm going, fight doesn't go to a decision, you're getting plus two, 10 on it.
Yes, I understand.
Lupi-Odinez mostly goes to decision.
Nine of her last 10, I've gone the distance.
But who she fight?
Jessica Andrage, 11 of her last 15, have not gone the distance.
She creates chaos.
You talked about the physicality.
She hasn't looked great from bottom.
So I think even if Loopy does get her takedowns off, there's a chance that she's able to finish the fight.
We saw it on U.S. Enoche in 2023.
She got to finish there.
If Androge is getting her game off, she's absolutely live for her finish.
Plus 2.10, I'll throw a flyer on it.
Thank you very much.
We roll along.
Aaron Pico, man, this is one of those ones.
I'm either going to look
Oh, this guy knows ball
We knew Aaron Pigo
It's like the image you used by the way
You fucking idiot
How did you bet on this guy
Bellator debut
Against an undefeated top 10 featherweight
I'm ready for both
Options I'm excited for either outcome here
I will say this
If Aaron Pico loses
I'm never betting on a debuting
Bellator fighter again
I bet on Petroop
And I bet on patchy mix
I'll a scrub
When I was really locked in
Like when I was betting regularly,
I had a rule no debuting fighters period.
That's smart, dude.
Never. No debut guys.
That's so smart. That's so smart.
If I didn't work on the show and had the bet every week,
I would definitely follow that.
Yeah.
Sometimes, I mean, look at Buchesha.
I lost my ass on Buchetia.
What a jackass I am.
Listen, it's not over yet.
There's still, like, you get the next one.
Butchia will never get another dollar from me.
That's son of a gun.
Main event, I had to do it.
Hamz Atchamai of inside the distance.
I tried to get you to just.
detail this. It's moved a little bit. It's like minus 150 now, but I was like, bro, it's
plus 100. If he wins, he's going to win inside the distance, in my opinion. I'm not saying he
can't win by decision, but I think the most likely outcome that he wins by is inside the
distance, even money on this bet. I just had to do it. I've been back in the dude his
entire UFC career. I got the championship future. I'm not saying I'm smart for doing this.
I'm not some knowledgeable man. He's obviously unbelievable. He's the worst kept secret, as
as they say.
When DDP has lost,
these two losses are both by finish.
So I think that's the most likely outcome
for this one.
You're getting a minus 240 down
to close to even money.
I don't know what the line is at right now.
And then I did also
throw by submission.
I don't think he's going to knock him out.
I think he's going to take him down
and get the submission.
That's my betting prediction.
You have mentioned trying to get me to tail this.
I have taken a position of,
I will not bet on this fight.
No bets.
I love this fight too much
to even have anything influence
my feelings on it.
Whoever wins, I'm going to be
fucking stoked.
It's going to be incredible.
This is my Super Bowl.
That's why you picked it for the party.
That's why I picked it.
I did not pick it.
Thanks for watching though, Frank.
We appreciate that, man.
You guys are just the same person
to me.
All right.
Got it, Frank.
You know what?
Fucking got him, man.
All right, a couple parleyes here.
Some guys that I think are
GM3, Mikhail,
don't see it going the distance.
I think that's sub or knockout
one of the two.
And then Kaiusikor,
I'm going to back him to bounce back.
In this one, we roll along.
three guys that I feel have a good chance of winning.
I like the stylistic match himself up for them.
Chase Hooper, Michael Venom Page, Carlos Prochase, and then to finish it off,
let's keep Carlos Prochis in there.
A fighting nerds, Parlay, Karini Silva, Mikhail O'Shacek, Carlos Prochase,
just for the hell of it, just for the hell of it.
And those are the bets.
For UFC 319, I cannot wait for this card.
Chicago, you're getting a good one.
Chicago, you're getting one, period.
We can finally end the trout.
you're getting one. The stars and stripes, four stars out there. I have no idea what they represent.
But shout out to Chicago. I probably should have learned that for this week. And I probably should
have learned that for this week's fight feast, which is what we are transitioning to me and Frankie
and old camera guy, Nick. We hopped in the Winnebago. And we went to Chicago. No, I'm just kidding.
We don't have that kind of budget. We're still working on cards, people. You think we can just go to
Chicago? But we do have Chicago restaurants here that serve authentic deep dish. So we try to
some deep dish, we tried some Chicago dogs, and then I got to whip up. Well, actually, Frankie whipped
it up. You'll see how that went. My favorite frozen pizza's home run-in pizza. This is UFC 319
fight feast. Chicago, enjoy. The UFC makes its long-awaited return to Chicago for the first time
in over six years, and the diehard fans of Chaitown get a banger in Hamzaa Shemaya v.
Drigis duplice, my most anticipated fight of 2025. So in honor of the promotions return to
the windy city, we're going to go on a Chicago.
Chicago Food Tour right here in Manhattan.
First stop, Emmits for some deep dish.
Fight Feast, episode 25.
Let's go.
All right, first up, we got the Daisy Cutter Pale Ale.
You can only see the brick behind me,
but this is a dope place.
A lot of cool stuff on the wall.
Real cool vibe in here.
This is where we'll show the B-roll.
That's pro's production for you.
Daisy Cutter from Chicago.
Half-Figger Brewing Company,
brood in Chicago, Illinois.
Shout out.
Here we go.
Used to be a bartender back in the day.
Not true at all. Wow, beautiful caramel color here. We got Frankie with me. Cheers, brother. To the windy city.
Living up to its name, Emmett's fan on full blast. If I had hair, it'd be flowing majestically, very windy in here.
You're really getting the authentic Chicago experience. Daisy cutter.
It's a great beer. Nice pale ale. You want me to chug it? You want me to chug it? If I must.
Last sugar in the game back at it.
Just another Sunday afternoon for the best chugger in the game, baby.
I'm gonna finish it, I'm gonna finish it.
No one does it like me. Best sugar in the game.
Shout to the Daisy Cutter. Nice sipping beer. It's really good.
I can't need any pizza, no.
And you're gonna eat 12 pounds.
Yeah, this cheese casserole is gonna go great with that.
All right, we are not just getting deep tish.
We're also gonna get a Chicago dog here.
You got the poppy seed bun.
You got the tomatoes, the bright green, radioactive looking relish.
You've got the Vienna dog, celery salt on top, pickle.
I just don't know how this isn't gonna be good.
Frank's already halfway through his.
He couldn't wait.
Cheers, my brother.
Okay, no, no, no, you're gonna go for another bite.
Second cheers of the day with all, Frank.
Here we go, Chicago dog.
Second glizzy on camera.
Looking forward to this one.
hot dog sandwich this feels like I'm eating a sandwich that's amazing
put back three or four of these in the United Center while you're waiting on
Hansat DDP to start sounds like a good evening than me you see that finger
integrity right that I'm a man of class when it comes to Chicago dog pickle
tried to pop out I put the finger down yeah we got a little mustard on it you're
constantly playing defense with the Chicago dog look at the fucking poppies on this
thing covered he do a Chicago dog
I mean, this is incredible.
Also, like, no one's complimented me yet,
but the Devon Hester jersey, 2006, authentic,
rookie season, cribs it in the Super Bowl,
they'll open the game against the Colts,
unfortunately lost that game.
No one's complimented to yet,
I'll compliment myself.
That bears, someone else is sort of Chicago dog,
I think, because of how good this looks.
No, Frank's done with his, let's go.
This is a good hot dog, man.
I'm a big hot dog, stop to beat.
I will say this right now, pains me to do this.
Shits on the Seattle dog.
Weirdos putting the cream cheese on it.
This is fantastic.
This is like, I think this is better than like a Chicago dog.
You know what?
That was about to start choking.
Dog went halfway down the throat.
Dog's about to start choking.
So far.
16-9 Daisy Cutter and a Chicago dog
or make for a good afternoon.
We still got a 10-pound pizza to go.
Wow.
This thing is beautiful.
Thank you so much, man.
Look at this thing.
This thing.
is a work of art. This is beautiful. Look at how thick the crust is. This is a fucking casserole. This is a pie. Don't tell me this a pizza.
Sausage pepper onion. What more could you want? I just got the proper way to serve this. I'm gonna fail miserably, but here we go. I'm expecting a big cheese pull off of this guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, there it is. There it is.
All right, here we go. Here we go. On to the plate. On to the plate. On to the plate. You got to plate it. And then cut it off. Nope. I'm failing.
Oh, there it is. There it is. Not bad. Not bad.
All right. Amazing cheese bowl. Let's have a pro do it now. Here we go.
All right, here we go. Professional Noah. Here we go. Get the whole pile on there. You get the cheese pull. Cheese pull off it.
Oh, beautiful. You got to pull it now. You got to apply the pressure.
Amazing. Thank you, brother. The cheese pull was insane, bro. Before we, Frankie's demanding the microphone so he can give us a back.
All right, look, this is kind of, this is cool. We're at the Chicago restaurant. We're enjoying all the Chicago food. It's amazing. They got this beautiful.
They got this beautiful sound system playing.
And right now they're playing a song from a band called The Beta Band, right?
They're actually from Scotland.
However, they got their acclaim in the United States
because they were played in the movie High Fidelity,
which on Kusack, that takes place at a Chicago record store.
So this place is just like they're higher level thinking here.
They know exactly how to get the right vibes going.
I am enjoying it.
Everything great here.
Shout to Hammets.
Steak knife for pizza.
Do I go hands?
No, you got to go fork in a knife.
This is literally a casseroom.
Frankie, you're coming in.
me?
Yeah, man.
Alright, brother.
Wow.
Cheers.
Deep dish.
I haven't had this in years.
It's unbelievable.
It tastes like thick crust on steroids.
Thick crusts pizza on steroids.
So much cheese.
It's got a little sausage in there.
So much cheese.
It fools you because the tomato sauce is on top.
So much cheese.
Mmm.
My mom and dad have been getting on to me about using the f-bomb.
So I'm using them sparingly.
This is fucking unbelievable.
This could feed 10 people and last them for days.
It'd be crazy.
It said two to three.
There's no way two people are getting through this.
This is what dreams are made of.
This is what I go to bed at night.
And once I fall asleep, this is what I dream of.
It's fantastic, man.
Man. Chicagans get homes out ddp, cargo dogs, and deep dish. Life ain't too bad out there.
Look at that cross, man. Can we get a measurement? It's got to be an inch and a half.
I don't know who's taking this home. No one's showing the nutrition facts on this.
better than this we love cheese bowls on fifis this is the creme della
cream it doesn't get cheesier and pullier than this right here all right
all right that'll do it for emmits uh just got my first go bears the bears i mean
me and my chicago jersey i look like an authentic chicagin go bears just got a
compliment on how good my cheese pole was too deep dish was incredible at emmits i'm
absolutely buzzing right now i mean what a sunday afternoon we're putting together
here let's go down to brooklyn now get another chicago dog uh keep the chicago tour
we're train rolling this is beautiful prospect park brooklyn frank up ahead leading the way
stomach's heard and he's coughing a little bit part group of grocery the home for their croupas
park slope as you can see we are on a very very slight incline which gives the neighborhood
its name park slope parks right there we're currently on the slope put a tennis ball down
it's rolling right back at you due to the minor incline
Frank just pointed out it is much more expensive due to the incline but it's worth
it for this neighborhood you know you don't want you don't want to get anywhere
that's too flat see this guy up here he's got this baby in a stroller if you were
to let that go that baby's gone the dachshund standing it's all over Brooklyn the
beacon to all residents this is dog the afternoon this is where you'll find a
Chicago dog in the great borough of Brooklyn in New York City look at him so
handsome left side of his face could use a little reconstruction but we'll ignore
that dog day afternoon all right here we go dog day afternoon spot number two another
chicago dog absolute thing of beauty you got the poppy seed fun covered vienna beef dog we got the
vienna beef hat to go with the vienna beef umbrella a summer day isn't complete without choking
down some blizzies under a vienna beef umbrella uh pickle jalapinos what are these frank
banana peppers onions neon green radioactive relish in there tomatoes celery salt put on by our waiter i have a
feelings it's going to be quite good.
Seriously, Frankie.
I was told by a local Chicago,
this is the sign of a Vienna dog uncircumcised tip.
That's how you know it's real.
Those are spicy.
The peppers are good.
Not banana pepper, hot pepper is what they call them here.
No offense to amids?
I think this one is better than the last place.
Deep dish, though.
So the best dishes are that.
I don't think I'm going to be able to get any other hot dog
other than a Chicago dog moving forward.
For poppy sheet bump, makes it.
Okay, final stop on the Chicago tour brings us back to Kossina Day Uncrowned, the Uncrowned kitchen.
We're back this time to make my favorite frozen pizza growing up, Chicago's home run in.
And I wanted Frankie to experience this one.
So I let him cook it for me.
Simply, you just preheat the oven, throw it in for the allotted amount of time, 15 minutes, says it right there, 4.50.
And comes out this perfect pizza.
Let's see how he did.
Oh, Frankie.
We all remember the toast from the Australian one.
Frank made the toast, not the best up here.
It's more like a giant crouton.
Better toast, too.
Even just basic culinary efforts, Frank miserably failed out.
Fuck that up.
Fuck this one up too, but we're gonna move forward.
Hands are washed, don't worry.
Ah, yeah.
Cut pizzas for a living in high school.
high school worked at a Zaxby's the crown jewel of the Hirsch dynasty the
the Hirsch family shout out a little bit toasty that's okay um just a little
extra love in the oven there uncured pepperoni favorite crust and all of
frozen pizza here we go it's a little burnt but still fantastic crust
incredible it'd be like 899 at your local grocer couldn't recommend it enough
If you're telling the USC 319 watch party, you got to get the home run in pizza.
Even after Frankie completely fucked and embarrassed it to it, Chris, it's still an incredible frozen pizza.
Oh, there's crumbling everywhere, like the first snowfall of the year.
Still a great frozen pizza, though.
I could eat just the crust.
I don't know what they do to it.
Get your home running pizza.
Chicago fight feast.
Homs out, DDP, going down this weekend, United Center.
Can't wait.
Save some money.
Carpool to the fights or take the L.
Can we talk about how good my in Chicago accent is?
The Bears.
Yeah, he just had a Chicago that.
Go watch the Cubbies later on.
That guy was like, hey, go Bears.
I was like, hey, go Bears.
Holy shit, dude, you must be born and raised in Chicago.
What's up, man?
Never been to Chicago.
The Bears, get a couple more of those in them.
Gonna go take the hell over to my friend's house, watch the Bears.
Now I'm about to take the L over to my friend's house to watch the Bears game.
Drink a few pops in his front room if you want to come with.
Be a couple home-running pizzas they took.
Did they really say Frunchroom?
Yeah, we'll be watching the Bears in the front room drinking a couple pops if you want to come through.
I'm going to take the L over later.
Couple pops in the front room.
Watching the Bears.
Hey, I'm heading down to the basement.
I'm going to grab a few pops if you want them.
Duh! Bears.
out.
Shout to Chicago.
Shout to
to deep dish.
Shout out to
Chicago dogs.
Hadn't had
deep dish in
years.
And I don't
want to hear
this like you
you can't get
deep dish
anywhere about
Chicago.
Maybe it's a
touch better
but like
that pizza
was very good.
That dish
looked good.
It's not pizza.
Oh yeah.
It actually is not
pizza.
It's a casserole.
Yeah,
that looked delicious.
The cheese
looked very
this whole,
it's a lasagna joke.
You guys said this
and then I was
online and I saw
someone else
saying it
that it was a lasagna.
like it's lacking lasagna itself the pasta like it's lacking the noodles it's a
base it's not a lasagna it's just a cassero sure whatever it is if let's call it a
casserole is not lasagna no but lasagna it would technically be a layered cake
lasagna noodles must be included for this to be a lasagna you gotta have that's a fair take
spaghetti needs spaghetti noodles like what the fuck yeah correct that is correct I'm willing to
accept that this is a casserole no it's a casserole it's a cassero but it's fantastic I'm
I'm a cheese guy look good so much cheese in it Chicago dogs are also
very solid. I don't think I've ever had
a Chicago dog. They're good, man. I must have,
but I don't recall it. The one thing I'll say,
my favorite Chicago thing,
I joke about the pizza because
it's a New York Chicago thing and the New York
pizza is different. I quite like
some deep dish, but my favorite Chicago thing
is the Italian beef. I know. The guy
at the restaurant was like, yeah, you could get that, but like we
definitely specialize in our dogs and pizzas. I should
have gotten that. That is my favorite
when I'm in Chicago.
I got to get that.
Shout out to Homer Ninn.
Shout out to Tessa Hirsch.
I appreciate you for doing that.
What about you, Frankie?
We're walking away from Emmett's and, you know, we're digested the food.
And fucking Connor goes, like, you know what?
I really liked that.
But it would be great if I could just go in and get, like, just one slice.
Like, I don't need the whole pie.
I'm like, you're such a fucking New Yorker now that, like, the thing you want is the thing that New York is good at, which you come in.
You're like, I want this slice.
Yeah, but I want four slices of New York pizza because it's thin crust.
How long did it take you to finish the leftovers?
Two days.
two hours
guy took home
half the pizza
I do have
one last surprise
in terms of
Chicago food
especially we didn't
try on
but I've heard
very good things
about it
oh fuck
it's pop
oh shit
straight from the sword
oh man
thought about going to a
popcorn shop
around here
and like getting
the classic mix
but I was like
you know what
let's get the real thing
oh my god
this is legendary
did anybody but me
have this on their
Chicago list
you were the only one
that have it
I've never had it
before. Let me get a go at this. Yeah, have some of that.
This is cheese popcorn mixed with
caramel popcorn? I've never
had this before. It's not just cheese popcorn
mixed with caramel popcorn. It's Garrett's
cheese popcorn mixed with Garrett's caramel.
This thing is? Amazing. It is like filled
to the brin. If you,
even if you don't go to Chicago, if you
ever have a connecting flight at O'Hare,
get this. Get this
and set your fucking day off right.
It's quite good.
Get some of that. The salty and the
sweet. Frank, I know this is great on
audio. It's what people log
in for. I'm going to leave some
I live. There's two things I go to Chicago for.
The beef and the Garrets.
The fucking Garrets, man.
So good.
Isn't there a whole episode of Modern Family where they're trying to get the
Garrett's popcorn? Not a show I've ever watched.
So possibly? Oh, you got to.
Never seen it. Comfort show.
Oh, God. Garrette is so good. Get this away from me.
This is unbelievable.
Can't give me the microphone. What a surprise. I'm so
happy you got that. Yeah, we'll be able to
share this out of the show. Beautiful 10 as well. Shout out to Garrett. Shout to Chicago. Can't
wait for it. This weekend, definitely cook yourself a home run-in pizza. Let's keep the show rolling along
though next up. Pound for pound. Yes. In honor of the Paramount deal being signed,
we will look back at the best moments from the ESPN era. So the top pound-for-pound
ESPN-era moments. This can be anything. Doesn't have to be fights. It doesn't have to be just
whatever happened during the ESPN era.
for the UFC.
Yeah.
It is not over yet.
Correct.
But it is very close to being over.
We all have some fond memories of it.
It was a good era for M or May.
I feel in terms of there was a lot of moments.
There were some great stars who developed during that time.
It will be interesting to look back on this.
Maybe somebody will also do this when 2026 actually rolls around and the UFC is officially off ESPN.
Although, who knows, maybe contender series or something.
ends up there but for the most part
the big package is going to Paramount
so RIP to
UFC on ESPN RIP to
what's the order Frankie? It'll be Frank
Connor Rick
Perfect
Do I always close now? Is that just my thing? You start
I close the close the closer we're gonna have the most experience
man no have to get you a Mariano Rivera jersey
Shout out to Mariano Rivera
Didn't he get hurt in like a
In like an exhibition thing? Oh fuck
That's
Oh
Cillies fucking hell
He also, in like his third to last year in the league,
towards ACL, shag and fly ball.
So maybe he should just, you know.
Let's chill out, Mariano.
Let me ask you something.
What does that man mean to you?
Five championship rings.
But like, do you not have, like, an affinity for him?
I'm not even a Yankees fan, and that guy is, like, the guy of my childhood.
He's the greatest closer of all time.
I mean, what do you want me to say?
He's the best.
I just have an emotional attachment to Mariano Rivera because, like,
he's the fucking legend.
I hear you understand, man.
I don't think.
of Metallica, I think of him.
Yeah, incredible.
Shout out to Mariana.
All right, Frankie, let's hear it.
My number five is illegal streams.
Specifically like this.
That's fucking illegal.
And the bit where, like,
Dana White was saying, like, we will find you.
We got them.
We got it.
It's fucking crazy.
We're outside his house,
and if he turns that thing on
on Saturday night,
he's done.
We got it.
There won't be streams
of the illicit kind.
moving forward, but this is something that was in the ESPN era.
Yeah, for sure.
Streams started in the UFC on ESPN era.
They will not continue after this.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, great one.
But still, the Dana White streaming memes are elite.
Yeah.
My number four, and again, my experience with UFC has always been on ESPN,
so I don't know how much of this predated ESPN or how much of it we can expect to see
in the future, but it's the funny camera angles, specifically the ones with Megina
Levy well she's talking right outside where the fighters walk out and she's got some great
spiel going and then as soon as you could see the fighter the camera just pans over poor woman is
still talking now slightly off camera and the completely off camera I actually love that I hate it so
much and I think it's funny it brings a smile I don't think I want to know what their intention is
I don't know it's no no I'm such a corny fuck the intention is that she's timing it out so like
they walk out and then sure why transition from her to them the first time I saw
I saw it, I was like, damn, that was timed well. And then, like, three, it took me a while
to pick up on the fact that they do it every time. First time I saw it, though, I was like,
man, what timing they have. My question, that was why? You can. It's a production. You can do it,
but why? It was like the time Megan Olivie walked like a half mile to get to the booth. And
she, like, they only did it one time, but she walked like a quarter mile and then ended the walk
at John Anick, D.C. and Rogan. Again, you can do it, but why?
Why do we do that?
It reminds me of, like, Cloverfield, where, like, you have the news anchor who's talking
and then they see something more interesting happen in the background.
They're like, oh, shit, there's a giant monster.
No, I dig it.
All right.
Keep it going.
My number three is.
Frank likes it.
It's on his list.
Chale's mispronunciation.
I can relate.
I have the same problem.
But while Chale says, Yahrir, I know it's Yaiir.
Wow.
So I think I'm going to go with status now.
Mokulchev.
Mokulchab.
My number two.
That's a great one, Frank.
Well done.
Network issues.
They mean a little bit more to me because I'm working in, you know, production.
We've got to make sure that the stream is good for you guys to be able to do the watch party.
But like I've seen the full gamut of issues, whether they be audio, video,
swap it to an ad too quickly, having the chat full of people saying I can't fucking watch the stream.
All of this.
I hope it's something that gets fixed now that there's a new network.
I don't know what the climate was like before ESPN, but I have to feel that.
they're doing an exceptional job
with making them entertaining
as of right now.
There's been several times on the watch party
where we lose the stream
in the middle of a big fight
and we have to just be like
all right, yeah, yep.
You guys both like shift in your chair a little bit.
Yeah, because I'm like, please God,
now reflexively. I literally just shifted.
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm like,
please God come back.
ESPN Plus is screwing us right now.
And then my number one is a byproduct
of the ESPN UFC deal.
but that was a meeting Helwani himself.
Oh, there it is.
You fucking Brown.
Bala, Pulia conventions.
Yes.
Hit it on yourself.
Glaze King over here.
E.J. I got to meet Connor.
Connor also came from ESPN.
And then I got to meet all of the people in the periphery from ESPN.
Learned a lot about ESPN in the last four years that I could never have cared about in the past.
But it's been great.
so thank you yes people
you fucking sap
wow I mean
the the glaze is so real
you want to open up a donut shop
or something Frank you my god
I gotta say
I have a confession
I thought Frank's list
like I don't know how Frank's gonna do on this one
it's kind of a fucking great list
it was great and great
sweating like a prostitute in church
I was hoping that was gonna go through
no did great you did really well
stumbled at the finish love it's our
it's okay we get it
All right. Here we go. My number five. This is a specific moment. I've watched this clip probably 15 times. I can break it down for you. It's become a huge meme. Who's Joe? During an interview with Brennan Fitzgerald on ESPN Plus, Max Holloway, I'm getting ready for UFC 308.
Max Holloway, Elia Teporea starts making fun of Max Holloway's boxing. Do do do do, do you do this, you do this. Max Holloway's rebuttal in a Hawaiian accent.
is you do the same drill, same drill.
But the way that he says it, he's like,
you do the same Joe.
You do the same Joe.
And obviously, Ilya, English is his second, third, whatever language.
He thinks he's saying Joe, as in a person.
And the way that he says it, he's got a smile on his face,
he's laughing, and he's just like, I don't fucking know who Joe is.
And then it, like, all of the joy comes out of his face.
And he's just like, who's Joe?
He's like, who the fuck is Joe?
it's such like you have to watch the clip go out and find it I obviously can't I can't replicate it that well but it's just so good and then Max is just like what the fuck are you talking about it's just like this ultimate communication over Zoom and Brennan Fitzgerald's just sitting there kind of just like all right my favorite part of this whole explanation of this is a great moment is they're both speaking English yes Max has this heavy Hawaiian accent he's like you do the same joke do the same drill
And he's, like, saying drills so relaxed that it sounds like Joe.
The funniest part to me is, it's really, to be in like, I don't know who the fuck Joe is.
And then he's like, who's Joe?
Who is Joe?
Like, he gets, like, so pissed.
It's so good.
It's so good.
To the point where, like, I've seen Justin Gaichie, like, his coach is like, all right, a Joe, and he has to do, like, the...
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah, like, people have picked up.
Oh, fuck, that's funny.
It's so good.
That is fucking great.
Number four?
Kevin Holland.
wow
call big mouth
25 fights in the ESPN era
for Kevin Holland
25
Bobby Green would have
look at this
look at this topology
this is just the ESPN era
he fought so many times
I can remember that Kyle Dawkins
no contest like it was yesterday
and he's fought like 16 times since then
inspired choice here
the activity is just insane on this man
no one fought more than
Kevin Holland during the ESPN era. It actually is like mind-boggling. Look at how many bonuses he got.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 500K in the bank account for Kevin Holland.
Some tweets just from the, from the era. I mean, the dude was always ready to go as game as they come.
Yeah, here's the deal. I checked with both my wife and girlfriend. They said I can fight this weekend.
Just like, yep, it's, I can fight. Don't worry, guys. Call Big Mouth was the epitome.
See you next week? Just like he's always down to scrap. Five fights in 2020.
all of it
just amazing stuff
from Kevin Holland
so Kevin Holland
the activity
throughout the ESPN era
was unbelievable
number three
Fight Island
all the theories
surrounding
like are they really
fighting on it
like this
they put this ad out
like how do you not
expect us to like
hypothesize on what this
is going to be
by the way
that did come true
but it was the training cage
they did not fight on that cage
some of these like tweets
like people imagining
like what it was actually
going to be
It was just, it was such a weird time in the world, in the sport, and everything.
Yeah, all these fantasy things that people came up with, Fight Island was a time.
It certainly was.
Many crazy posts, many different ideas.
And it just turned out like, oh, yeah, there it is.
That's not what it looked like.
Not even a little bit.
Not even close.
They sent us so much B-roll of like an octagon on a beach like that.
And they're like, yeah, they're going to fight in there.
And then they know, no, just like an arena that's.
they already have.
Dude, Jordan
didn't work at ESPN
for those
though.
You said they think
you guys
beach towels
as well, right?
Yeah,
I actually used it
on Saturday.
I have a
fight island
a beach towel.
Do you want to
know how far
I went?
TST
hosted for
Usman Mosvadol
hosted a
luow at his
house for
Fight Island
and like 15
people game
and we all wore
Hawaiian shirts
lays,
we made like
tropical food
just to watch
them fight
in an arena
in Abu Dabod
Yeah.
This is truly the moment I have been waiting for.
You're getting posts like this from Dana White.
Fight Island, baby.
And it's the Octagon on the beach.
This is where they're doing face-offs from.
Like, what a time.
And, like, it was so branded.
Like, you could buy Fight Island merch.
I have two Fight Island merchandise stuff.
Oh, that's fucking great.
How the fuck did you guys get all this Fight Island merch?
I didn't get shit.
You didn't get anything?
No.
I didn't get shit.
No, thank you.
Shout out to Fight Island.
That was a crazy time.
Number two, this is another fighter.
The Pereira font.
the Pereira run, the Poetan run, the Alex Pereira run, 10-fight run, from debut to two-division
champion with three title defenses in under three years, goes nine and one on that 10-fight run,
seven KOs, seven fights were against current or former champions, and I sound like Frank
trying to read right now, I'm struggling.
Nine of the fights were on pay-per-view, headline six of them, headlined MSG twice,
UFC 300, International Fight Week, many people's fighter of the year in 2024.
some people's fight of the year against
Halil Roundtree last year
even the one loss he had to Izzy
was like a historic UFC moment
created the bow and arrow like this like went viral
even in his losses
like you rarely rarely
rarely rarely see a run like that
in that short of a time period
it was truly a magical
that's a great encapsulation of it
it all happened on ESPN when did he debut
what was 2021 MSG 2021
wow so not even like the beginning
of the run like kind of came halfway through
and still fucking put it on
From that debut against Andres Mikhailitis at the MSG card in November of 2021,
UFC 268, all the way to against Haleel in October of last year,
10 fights under three years, two-division champ.
Wow.
Crazy, bro.
Shout to Politan.
And then number one, this is a no-brainer.
If this isn't the number one on everyone's list, it's the easiest one, the apex baby.
The birth of the warehouse in the desert.
There's nothing bad.
than a couple fights going down in the apex we got to see championship moments there
here I am wow let's go taking it all in dreams come true dreams come true that man's
spot on right there happy now mecca you went to mecca I went to mecca bro I saw it man
shout out apex number one from Francis Ngano to to Laddumont is that at it it's beautiful
what else you want to say I mean I think we have the picture of the post
is the all-time moment.
Oh, yeah, Ladd-Dumont, October of 2021.
Real ones remember.
All-time, baby.
Fuck, yeah.
This is what made me a UFC fan.
Vince Vaughn in the house.
Yes, the Apex.
Mark Zuckerberg rented it out because he's such a McKenzie Dern fan.
Legendary.
And then these guys.
I wonder how these guys felt on Monday morning when Paramount Plus Newsbro.
I bet they were pissed.
UFC slash ESPN super fan
Oh yeah
Norman Dumont
Another legendary moment for her
Not just Ladd Dumont but also
Dumont Chandler
The Chase down in round one
There we are outside of it
God, good times
Number one moment
Of the ESPN era by phone
Oh that was great
God you fucking guys crush this
I gotta tell you
I can't wait to hear yours
I feel like I don't feel like I lived up to this
But we're gonna try
Come on man
Number five
I will admit
These are a little more personal for me
Right
that I feel like I was involved
in it and I was pretty
go ahead
God man
you're having a trigger
you're having a trigger finger today
and that I was involved
with and mean a lot to me
number five
launching ESPN MMA
like the social accounts
this uh this was a collaboration
between myself and Tessa Hirsch
but also a lot of other people at ESPN
shout out Katie Daley
who took a shot on us
and I feel like we kind of built
something special at that time
like it was it was not
as as crowded
a space in the MMA Twitter sphere and social media handles and all that at the time.
And then we kind of, I think we can take credit for establishing a bit of a blueprint that
has now been followed today by a lot of other accounts in the MMA space.
Shout out to Tessa, my compatriot for life for that.
And I was very proud of what we did with ESPNMMA by the time I left.
Number four, me, Ariel Hawani, December 31st, 28th.
You didn't probably know this at the time
But we ushered in the UFC on ESPN era
Me and Ariel Hawani when that clock struck midnight
We're the first ones on when the UFC deal with ESPN started
So that new year show, look at this
Look at these guys
Look at these guys, real champagne
Real champagne
Wow
This is midnight
On January 1st, 2019
The start of UFC on ESPN
And we hosted a show.
Now, we had done the show leading up to midnight.
So we had, I think, T.J. Dillashaw, Henry Suhudo, who were going to fight later in the year in January.
It was a packed Halwani show.
We had some great guests.
And myself and Ariel were sitting on the set when it turned over.
All right.
Now we're going to get a little more broad.
Those were very personal for me.
Number three, the birth of a legend, Ariel Helvani.
And now I would like to play a clip from D.C. and Hawani, where you will learn about Ariel Havani.
All this happened yesterday, but in the morning, I saw you tweet something about Vladimir Putin and somebody made an agreement for Habib to come back.
So is Habib out now?
Like, what happened?
Did he not get on the private jet?
Did he not make the flight?
What happened?
What happened?
Wait a second.
This is early pandemic.
You can see when in like a clip.
for Ariel.
He's already dying.
And then,
and then,
Dana White said something.
And then you come back and,
oh,
so you're just a big gangster now,
right?
You're a big gangster.
This whole time,
Ariel is sitting there knowing.
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe it.
You put that there was agreement
between Vladimir Putin.
I'm like,
wow,
MMA is that big.
And then all of a sudden,
David says no way.
You're like,
I love you, Dana.
And I'm like, oh, so you're a gangster now.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know what I'm going to.
Can we get to that?
Can we get to that?
Can we get to some place on the West Coast that nobody knows exists?
He's just keeping going.
I can't breathe right now.
Wait a second.
Where is this place on the West Coast?
Is there a place on the West Coast?
Where is this place?
You can't even talk.
You can't even correct them.
I live on the West Coast.
It makes it better that he didn't.
Oh, so.
Let him just go.
D.C.'s laughing because Ario's laughing.
He doesn't even know what's coming.
I had a tweet.
The matter of opponent said how big could leave.
I was like, what is going on?
Right there?
No.
I thought that was you.
That was you.
It was a fake me, DC.
Oh, my God.
I thought it was you.
This is getting sent held before getting sent held before getting
said in to tell him.
It's so good.
I was like, wow, Ariel actually
is glad of me of Putin's going to fight.
Ariel has tears streaming down here.
That wasn't me.
That was an imposter.
Was that a real data?
Was that a real data?
I would say I'm not paying attention.
I was paying attention to the blue checks.
So Dana was invited to an imposter.
Oh my God.
I was like, wow.
Ariel is such a gangster now.
You thought that was me this whole time?
I thought the whole time.
Suggest it in order.
And then you say some stuff about a place on the West Coast that I have no idea in this place even exists.
Oh.
Let me,
you're okay.
I took it off.
I took it off.
I took it off.
I can't take it.
Okay.
I can't breathe it.
Okay.
First of all,
let me clear the air for you and everyone.
By the way,
I edited this for social.
That was someone named Ariel Helvon.
Oh.
but he got like 20,000 likes
I was insane
oh my god
Ariel Helvani
so that's not happening
Dana did reply unfortunately
but he did give us some information
where are you going are you leaving
I just got to open the door it's hot
he was so hot in his house
he was laughing so hard
it got really hot up here
okay
so good
I mean
it still it still holds up today
Ariel Helvani
legendary clip
as I said
sentel before getting sentel DC in real time learning that
he fell for a fake account.
God, it's just so funny how long he goes before Ariel
finally. It's legit like a minute and a half, two minutes before Ariel
finally gets to tell him, it wasn't me.
Birth of a legend, shout out to Helvani wherever he is now.
Number two, same show.
DC, Halwani.
Another legend is born.
And that legend is Dahlia.
Yeah.
Let's play that clip now.
you never had a bully I actually did we have something in common I had a bully in the first grade
so around the same age as you my bully's name was Dahlia she was a terror I'll never forget
her for as long as I live can I tell you something I used to sit next there in class
first grade his guy would sit there and give me like evil eye the whole it was horrible
So you know what I did?
My mom asked the teacher if I could sit in the back of the class
and then she would sit and look at me like this the whole time.
I could see it till today.
Dahlia, I won't say her last name.
So she would just look at you and just look at me.
That was my bully.
But then.
Would she hit you?
Well, here's the thing.
Well, here's the thing.
Would she hit you?
No, she would never hit me, but she had two older brothers that
would confront me.
So it was like, by extension, you know, it was almost like a three-on-one.
But she was the scariest.
Dahlia.
Oh, my goodness.
Of course, it was a little girl.
I was terrified of her.
I was, and can I tell you where this story gets a little bit sad?
Can I tell you where it gets a little sad?
No, please don't tell me the sad part because I'm still laughing.
I'm going to seem like I'm so insensitive.
do let me try to get myself
Dahlia first grade
Unfortunately
The next year
Dalia's mother passed away
But this is where it gets really messed up
Her mother passed away
And as a class
Do you know what a Shiva is?
Uh-huh
You've been to one?
No
It's in the Jewish religion
When someone dies
You sit Shiva
Meaning the people who were
closest to the person
You know
Parent, whatever
They have to sit in their house
And people come visit them
and they pray together and you give them food.
So as a class, my teachers thought it was a good idea
that we go visit, that we go visit the Shiva of our classmate.
We're young kids, right?
We're like seven, eight years old.
Not a great idea.
I'll never forget.
We're all sitting there.
I've never been to a ship before.
I never knew anyone who died.
I was terrified.
And it's my bully's house that I'm going to.
I'm trying to keep it together.
I'm trying to keep it together.
You went to her ship, but she beat you up, dog?
Worse.
It was worse of that.
It affected me.
This must be 1990, if not 89.
And I still remember until this day, sitting in her living room, scared.
She's eating a banana, and she comes up to me, and she looks at everyone.
She was terrifying.
She looks at everyone.
And then she stops on me, and she goes, what are you doing here?
And I will never forget that.
I felt so bad.
She was bad.
I was like, here I am trying to pay respects.
And you're calling me out.
What am I doing here?
I don't even want to be here.
She was bad.
She was bad.
And then guess what?
The next year she switched schools and I never saw her again.
You probably so happy.
Oh, so happy.
I was terrified of her.
Dahlia.
Every time I hear that name now, Dahlia,
It's a very Jewish name.
I get chills down my spine.
Oh, my goodness, bro.
That is hilarious.
It's hilarious, thought.
Oh, my goodness.
I thought I had it bad.
Morn used to beat me up so bad.
Like, we both used to get beat up.
That's awful, man.
You got beat up physically.
I got beat up emotionally.
I got beat up physically.
I think it's worse what you got.
You actually got it worse.
Intimidating you with her eyes.
At least I just get some beat up
every dime again.
It's not as bad as she did to me.
Dahlia.
Oh, it's so funny.
Because I can get over it, right?
I can get over to physical fight.
Well, you also got to exact revenge.
I never got revenge.
Never got revenge on Dalia, first grade bully.
Legendary moments, those two clips from D.C. and Halwani, an iconic show at that time.
And one of the best products of that era, the relationship between D.C. and Arias is just one that can't be topped.
Absolutely love that.
moment. There's only one that could be number one. And I love it more than anything. This thing
has such a special place in my heart. I don't think it can be like unseated by like the birth
of my children is the only thing above this. And it's the ghost beach from Yuel Romero.
This this thing happening just changed the course of meme history in my life. Let's play the
original ghost beach right here.
Muhammad, the best deafings and the heavy weight.
The best move in the heavy way.
But.
Show you man, Did he bade him one time.
So good.
The glasses.
Everything is possible in your life when you believe.
Who's he telling this to it?
Bill Murphy.
You believe everything is possible.
You have two heads.
I mean, everything is possible.
Go.
Go.
And take it whatever you want to do.
Is this your ringtone, Rick?
No, but I need to tell the back story on this.
So, Phil Murphy, a lot of us from ESPN,
and I was working at ESPN at ESPN at a spend the time.
A lot of us would go to the actual UFC pay-per-views and produce content.
Myself and Tessa Hirsch, we were on the social team.
Phil was doing international hits.
So he would host a show for like the Australia, New Zealand audience.
And he would sit with fighters and he would do these interviews and then they'd send them back.
They'd send them back via TVU to ESPN.
A lot of the stuff they recorded would not like get used in any capacity.
It might end up on a show.
It might end up on YouTube.
But a lot of times like stuff would end up just like in the ESPN servers.
because they didn't think that fighter was going to hit.
The interview didn't necessarily hit in the right thing.
In the UFC Apex, we're sitting in the Apex.
This was early 2020.
It was pandemic.
It was like one of the last, no, it wasn't one of the last fights.
But it was a Vegas show.
We were in the Apex because that's just where they were.
It was one of the last fights before the pandemic, before everything actually shut down.
And Phil Murphy comes out.
And I'm like, how was it?
Like, you talked to YOL?
How was it?
I'm always trying to, like, talk to the people, Brett Akamoto would do interviews, Ariel
would do interviews, Phil would do interviews, just so that I can prep myself if there's
something I need to clip for social in there. I talk to Phil and he's like, yeah, Yowel was intense,
man. I'm like, what you mean? Like, he was intense. He was like, yeah, he was pretty intense.
Like, it got like really intense there. And I was just like, I didn't think much of it.
I was just kind of like, all right, like, you had an intense interview with Yuel. He can kind
of be an intense guy. I go back to my computer and I log into like this server where you can
see like the ingest stuff that's coming in. And I talked to Phil and it turns out they were not
even going to run this video. This video was not going to see the light of day. It was not like maybe
they would have run it on Phil's show, but they were not going to post this to the YouTube channel.
Just that it was intent. Like, that's all he said. It's just intense. Yeah. We're just like, I wasn't
really like, we were really discussing it. It was just that. But I had curiosity about him saying
that. And so they weren't going to use it for YouTube. I'm like, are you guys using this?
They're like, no. I'm like, you're not using this? I watched a video. And that moment happens where
Yo-O-Romero fucking, like, terrifies and inspires people simultaneously, like, makes you want
to shit your pants, but also run through a brick wall.
And I'm just like, the world has to see this.
So me and Tessa cut the clip for social, and I was like, at the time, subtitles were coming
big on videos.
Again, like we were kind of revolutionary, you know, like TikTok now, everything's
subtitled.
This was starting to become a thing.
And I was like, if we put subtitles on this, I promise this thing's going to blow the
fuck up. So we sit there
we're like, fuck, this is taking extra time, but we're going to
get it out. We sit there, we cut it, we
subtitle it, we get it optimized,
we put this thing out, and from there
it just like explodes. Like it becomes a thing
that like is viral for the whole week
and into this, the rock is reposting it.
I wish he, you know, kind of collaborated
with us instead of just posting it on it. Oh, but
you know, that's okay. This becomes
a thing now and obviously it has
had life beyond the dirty
boxing line in there, the
go, everything, um,
has become a thing
that did
short a man
dirty box
and it just takes
a life of its own
but I just remember
the feeling of feeling
like
I knew
I was sitting at my computer
in a hotel room
at Vodara
and I was like
this is going to have
the internet on fire
I feel like
this is the best thing
I've done
and I was ultimately
proven right
but Yoel Romero
killed it
I want to show two
other clips
first clip is
I also in that
same back server
they had two cameras
so I went in
and looked at the camera
that was isolated on Phil
and I was like
what was Phil thinking
because that one was obviously
on Yuel
and I cut this
from that camera
you have it too
hangs
name is it
carefully
it's supposed to
gold
that was a gulp
yeah that was a gulp
and take it
whatever you want to do
looking at the blanks
So that was me trying to talk with you again.
So that was me trying to like further extend the life of this clip.
It actually did pretty well.
But I just remember I will never forget the Phil Gulp.
The gulp is so good.
The gulp when Yoel was staring at him and he just gulps.
I have one more thing that I want to play.
Please.
I asked Phil Murphy to tell me about this moment and this clip.
And now I have audio from Phil Murphy talking about this scene.
He began the response in Spanish.
And I remember thinking, like, I got to watch this back.
Because, again, I'm getting like 80% of it, but this sounds like it's off the rails.
And then he switched to English.
And that's when the sound bite, you have two hands, all of that happened.
And in my head, I'm sitting there thinking, all right, what time is it?
I need to send these time codes straight away, because this is gold.
It was full Yoel Romero.
And he was cool with me before the interview.
you cool afterwards came up to me at unofficial way-ins and i i could tell he wanted to smooth
things over like he wasn't trying to be intimidating but something struck a chord doubting his
takedown ability or the perceived doubt of his takedown ability against israel ad asania
an Olympic wrestler in romero um and the part that people laugh about is me the gulp the cartoonish
you know loony tune that i had with the mic on my tie
and the reason for that was again COVID was about to kick off and they were you know hey don't shake fighters hands type things telling us you know we were starting to have to go through these protocols and I was getting over a cold so I'd like some junk in my throat that you know I just didn't want people to know that I was getting over a cold and anything to freak out because I knew it wasn't anything serious so I was holding in that gulp through the whole response and of course that's when it happens when y'all was going crazy certainly an interview I will never forget oh shout out to philmer
an absolute legend
he is the other half of this moment
now obviously Yoel gets the like
recognition and you like at the beginning you're like
who was he talking to like Phil deserves
a lot of credit he was the he was the other
half of this equation absolute legend
still at ESPN doing amazing things
thank you to Phil for sending that in letting us know
that in the other side he was holding that gulp in
because he needed to fucking hide that
cough that might have been coming because it was
I think it was February 2020
And then like the Rudy Gobert thing that then set off like the rest of it
It was March 2020 because we were all out there for that.
That's right.
It was March.
I remember this actually.
Wasn't TST out there as well?
Maybe.
Yeah, he was there.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was there because I remember it was his first UFC event and he was like calling me.
He was like, oh, this shit's so sick.
And it was right before the Rudy Gober thing.
Crazy, man.
Insane memory.
Love that moment.
Shout it to Phil.
Shout it to Yuel.
Shout to ESPN on.
or UFC on ESPN? What an era that was? What memories will we make during the seven-year
Paramount deal? What will we be saying in 2032 about what happened during the Paramount Plus era?
All right, that was a good one. That was a fun one to look back on the last seven years to deal with ESPN since
January 1st of 2019. That's pound for pound. Frankie. We got any voicemails, brother.
Ohoy, hoie.
Yo, um, I'm a huge fan, obviously, of Ariel and then, uh, eventually you guys.
Eventually.
And so...
We won him over.
Uh, it is like a ongoing joke between my wife and I that I will just throw out there.
I'd be like, yeah, when I'm, when I'm working with Ariel Hwani, when I'm on the boys in the back, when I'm working with Eric Hwani, when I'm one of the boys in the back, um, it's an active dream of my...
of mine to be a part of the team.
So for us to our fans who don't know how you guys found yourself in the position that
you're in, a part of the super awesome crew, what does that that path look like?
What does someone have to do to end up being one of the boys in the back?
Is it possible for somebody from a small town in Texas to get where you guys are?
Love the show, love the content, love the debate, keep doing which I was
doing and uh yeah it will be it is it possible yeah absolutely are you kidding me maybe not sitting
in this exact seat but like yeah any you can do anything you want especially in your career like
seven years ago seven and a half years ago like i was getting laughed out of interviews
when i was freshly out of college like you can you can attain anything you want this this
no question about it go anything is possible yeah what you know what roramero said no honestly the
That is a perfect transition from our list in the ESPN era is like five years ago.
You're in radio at ESPN.
I'm in social media at ESPN.
None of this is like a thing.
And then now we're here.
So like there's a path.
You just have to kind of build the skill set, prepare for the moment.
Grind.
Grind.
Figure out.
You know,
that's one of the biggest keys.
You're just going to have to grind.
You're just going to have to put in a lot of hard work.
Work so hard that you start getting lucky.
Yeah.
The thing I always say is like anticipate, right?
whatever the wave is going to be
three to five years from now, that's what you need to
start moving toward. You can be
a boy in the back or a boy in the back
equivalent. Maybe you'll be something even
greater. So yes, it can
happen to anybody.
What's up, guys?
I'm a 24-year-old
college graduate. I was just wondering if you guys
offered an internship
or if you could offer one.
I currently run a machine learning model
that predicts fights.
Oh, shit.
And it's been quite successful.
I think it's around 80% accurate on winners and roughly 35%, 40% accurate on winner method combos.
Wow.
We need to hit them up for that.
I know.
I'm like, is this a money printer?
I'd love to be a part of it.
Also, I got a friend, Eli Pacorni.
He's making his debut in the LFA on September 12th.
Same card is Gable Steven.
He actually trained with Gable growing up in,
Portage
dude is
definitely going to
be in the
USC soon
and we'll
definitely be
on the
Helwani show
so
I throw that
out there
all right
take care
guys
there's a lot
to unpack
there
amazing call
first of all
Gable
Steven is
making a
debut on
LFA
LFA
brings in
all
Minnesota
super fight
to the
land of
a thousand
lakes aid
LFA
118
I'm not
saying anything
about Gable
Steven
does he
know something
that we
don't know
yet
McKee versus
McPadton
I don't think Gable has anything on the books yet
Let's see, McKee always comes prepared with his corner
A fellow, okay, Gable Stephson will be at the fights it looks like
Logan Storley and Gable Stevenson is in McKee's corner for this fight
But what if he's also fighting there?
Yeah, I don't think, did he just break some news?
I don't know, it sounds like that's what he was saying
Now, granted, last week we had a-
We had a quit cutting these off, man.
We had Don Davis try to break some news for us and it didn't go so hot.
It didn't go out.
It looks like LFA 168 is the one he's talking about, though, in Minnesota.
So shout out to your friend.
In terms of internships, Rick is the official hire.
Oh, fuck, he just throws it right to me.
This is a small operation.
Yeah, it's, we have specific needs and I'm, let's just say this.
I have an email in my ex-bio.
if you ever want to send a resume, ever say like, hey, this is what I do, check out what I do, send it there.
Anytime somebody emails me, I, one, respond, and two, collect it.
And if we have needs that need to be filled, I always reach out to people from that list.
So send me something, and I'll keep an eye on it.
Man, a dream is where we have like an on-crowned job list.
One day.
One day.
I actually didn't even know you guys did this service.
This is a very, very good service.
You should do this more.
It's very clearly, Oscar Willis.
My question, first time to call a long-time listener.
My question is...
Straight into it.
How comically funny would hands up moving back down to 170
and Elia moving up to 170B if they then thought?
How funny would that be?
I'm a scale to 1 to 10.
I don't really have a question.
I just saw the voicemail thing and I was calling without...
Oh, that's a solid question.
I'm going to the dentist now.
What an efficient call that was?
That was Oscar Willis, yeah?
100%.
Um, yeah, Hamzad versus
Ilya
I guess the path is
Ilya goes up to
170 beats Islam
Hamzat comes down
Hamzaa comes down
and he tries to become
double sham
The size difference
Would be comical
1,000
Yeah, you would actually
look like Hamzot
is like towering over
I'm like in that video
Against DDP
but uh
fuck it'd be a huge fight though
If Iliya Teporia
starts
Hamza
All right
Ilya
Toporia beats Islam Makachab.
Stop that, right? And then beats
Hamza. And at that point, he would be getting
close to 20 and O. At that point, just retire.
Triple champion as well.
Done. Yeah, retire.
Unlikely, but fuck, it would
be, the two of them squaring off
would be very odd to look at. It's not going to happen.
Shout out Oscar Wilson.
Hey, boys. Appreciate
y'all. Appreciate you all.
Not appreciate you.
M.A content.
Tristan from Colorado.
I'm going to see what you guys thought about
what the greatest knockout ever was.
I know a lot of people are going to say
Max, knocking out
Justin in the fifth,
which is good, but I don't think
anything tops the head kick from
Leon. We're talking about Kamara,
one of the best welter weights to ever do it.
He's up, 5-0,
it's going into the last minute 30,
and head kicks him, changes the course
of Walter rate history. So just
give me your thoughts. Like I said, I appreciate
you guys, appreciate the real content you put out.
Much love. Peace.
it's hard to argue against that
Usen one man just because it was
the title circumstances too
yeah like you're talking circumstantial
like he laid it out for you
like Usman's on this unbelievable winning streak
he's getting ready to tie Anderson Silver
for the most wins ever in a row
like it
and he was rolling down how much style matter
because like as an example
just to throw out there right
Joaquin Buckley
caught leg spinning back kick
certainly not as important
but like style
Otherwise, it's fucking unbelievable.
Also, the way
that Leon did it is pretty incredible.
Just the head kick walk off.
Yeah.
I probably go...
Connor Aldo's up there.
Connor Aldo
one of the like Anderson Silva's.
Probably just because like the significance of it.
Connor, I mean, even Connor Eddie, right?
Like what that meant for MMA is kind of bonkers.
I don't know.
It's hard.
I almost need like,
best stylistic and then, like, most important.
Like, I almost need, like, two different categories
because I can't kind of pick one.
Gun to my head, like, Conor Aldo is probably the most significant.
Yeah.
What's up, boy?
What's up, Josh, probably North Carolina.
Duke's finest.
Duke, shout out.
Eric, I'm so sick of your Lord of the Rings, slander.
It's so annoying.
You got to just ignore, man.
This is, like, a corny contrarian take.
I'm a contrarian.
self, I get it, but at this point
you're just being obnoxious, bro.
11 for 11 at the Academy Awards
for Return of the King. That's tied
to the most Oscars for a single movie ever.
What's it tied with? Ben Hur and Titanic, bro.
The public has spoken.
This is in our cultural canon.
It's good. Your opinion
is trash. I'm out there, Tom Ashton.
You know what? Ben Hur and Titanic
also have in common with Lord of the Rings?
Other than the Academy works?
boring as fucking shit
that you would never watch again
so
these are things that you just have to
like you just have to ignore it at this point
it's such a troll job that
boring you can't even entertain it
don't feed the beast
shout out to that guy
we have nothing to worry about when it comes
to Lord of the Rings
I agree there is nothing to worry about when it comes to that
02 oh 3 back to back to back
banger banger
banger production quality soundtrack acting storyline uh it's it's you also say rewatchability i've
watched each of them like six or seven times wow that is many weeks of your life give me a director's
cut too no hard pass you know what up boys wow this is great quality got a quick question for you
i'm going to my i'm going to ufc 319 in chic sick right on the street for me
Oh, wow.
And I'm thinking about going to the press conference.
Okay.
And the way in, ceremony away is.
Yeah.
I figure one of you must have been to those before.
It's kind of like a weird setup.
I think it's at like a separate location from the actual arena that 319 is in.
And I've heard, you know, different stories online that you've got to wait in line for hours.
or I don't know how true that is.
So I just wanted to see if you guys have ever been, have any advice.
We have a show.
Thanks.
Thank you, brother.
Thanks for the call.
I have been.
I went to the UFC 300 press conference.
That one we were able to just walk in.
It was at the MGM Grand.
Did he say that this was his first UFC event?
Yeah, then I would recommend going.
You should go for the experience.
The amount of people, the how long you'll wait in line, depends on the event.
based on this one being a long
way to return to Chicago, I expect
you are going to have to wait a long time
otherwise line up early.
But to Conner's point, like, if this is
like going to be it for you and who knows
when they'll come back to Chicago, right? It's been years
between. Go do it. Have fun
at these things. They're open.
So like you might as well. And then
enjoy the fights on Saturday.
Yeah, it's going to be at the Radius Theater.
640 West Surmac Road.
Go.
What's up, Frankie's in the back?
This is Reed Boren.
I just have two quick questions for you guys.
Who me?
First, what is your favorite MMA meme of all time?
Me personally, going with this week, of course, would be the DDP by cartoon physics.
It's fucking good.
Number two, would you guys ever consider having some of the other MMA YouTubers on the show?
I know Ariel doesn't get along with MMA guru, for example, but if you could mend some bridges there, I think it would be an awesome show.
Love what you guys are doing, keep it up, and yeah?
yeah i mean i don't think there's any issues with anyone i don't think i don't think i don't think
arya has any issues with guru yeah i i would actually say it's it's flipped i feel like he just doesn't
like him yeah no no issues will we have them on uh any mhma youtube i mean we had bain on i
guess he's a twitter kind of like social uh yeah i'm down to have anyone on if the
timing is right if it if it works out yeah i mean they're they're killing it there's a lot of
people on MMA YouTube doing
doing fantastic work so
I'm trying to look through
they would even want to come on I'm trying to
look through my camera role for like
my favorite MMA meme
oh MMA memes this is a tough one
there's so many good ones
there are so many good ones
McGregor interview talking about boxing
and it's just like
are you going to be doing world titles
and he's like
and now
yeah that one is pretty great
uh man there's there's
there's so Mero from earlier
is quite good old Romero
McGregor where he's in the
back of the locker room and he's laughing really hard.
And then he's like, what?
What?
Man, I would need a minute to like really sit and think on this.
And maybe provide some good memes, though.
God, so many good ones.
So, so, it's Eddie.
What's up, Eddie?
I just have to prop up a little awkward moment of mine from back in high school.
It was the first day back at school.
I'm walking up the steps
and a good looking
girl is
waving to me and saying, oh my
God, hi, I missed you so much.
Oh.
And
we start having a conversation.
Oh, okay.
And then I realized her eye contact is a little bit off.
And
she was talking to somebody
right behind me.
It's tough.
And neither of them acknowledged it whatsoever.
I just walked away.
Shut the fuck.
And, uh, you know, that was, that was a start of a great day, obviously, so, yeah, all right.
Hold on.
And her name was.
Conversation begins?
Good job.
Same story.
Oh.
Uh, I think it's Dahlia, but you're telling me you sat there and had a conversation with someone that was having a conversation beyond you.
They weren't like, yo, who are you talking to you, fucking weird out?
Also, how did you not pick up?
How, like, was she responding to, you didn't acknowledge?
Was she responding to things that you were saying?
like what what is the how did that happen i i don't know if i could recover from that one if that
if you were really talking and they weren't talking to you and also do they not acknowledge you when
you when you realize that you weren't a part of this conversation you're no he said no they just
let him walk away oh god who that's i mean obviously that's based on our pound for pound from last
nothing nothing came when she was like oh hey i missed you so much and like you've never met her before
in your life and then like you just started talking and maybe they were friendly
though, but it was just not like a I missed you
territory.
Oof, that's a rough one.
Thank you for sharing though.
Hey, y'all, boys in those back.
Want to do what it is.
This is August from California.
Shout out.
Shout out.
Frank, G.C.
New York. Eric.
Andy and on there, Jordan.
Also shout out the T.F.L.
Man, that shit is nice.
sure it is
a little idea for top five
I'm thinking sitcoms
uh
oh okay
probably my favorite is
it's got to be friends
and I was wondering
if you guys
for one
if you guys wanted to do that
top five that'd be a
flagging and banging
and
also
who in the friends cast
would each of you guys
think you are
give your own
identification and opinions on
who else might be
talk amongst yourselves
thank you very much
much less all of y'all
I'm out
I like the idea until
year number one is friends
for that
I'm out
but same here
talking out of it
we have people in the back
who might be able to assist
classic
classic
can somebody in the back
it all makes sense now
Rick came up to me earlier
breaking the fourth wall
and was like
Andy, random question.
Do you like friends?
How much do you like friends?
Would you say you're a friends fan?
And I'm like, this is the weirdest thing.
Rick has ever asked me.
But yes, I do.
So what?
I pick one for each of you?
Yes, please.
Assign us.
We need to have this completed.
Okay.
What the fuck is that?
Franks is the easiest one.
He's David Phoebe's X.
Okay.
Who is like the most introverted person.
Like, he's so nerdy.
Come on, Frankie.
I'm super introverted, so.
I'm a modern.
a 1000%
Enter the haters
That's which
That's Courtney Cox
Yeah
Okay
Yeah yeah
That's definitely me
Jordan is Ross
Okay
I think yeah
GC Joey
Chandler Wick
Tough
I guess Ariel
Has to be Rachel
Ariel's Rachel
Wow
I like it
Piz
Yeah who's Pizzi
Wait who's even left
Well I've already
picked side characters here
So okay
So Pizzi
because of the laugh
maybe Janice.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know Janice.
I don't know.
I'd laugh or a good laugh.
Three of these names.
I'm pretty sure Janice is the one with the annoying voice.
Oh, wow.
But her laugh is so iconic, and Pizzi's laugh is so iconic.
Like, got to give it to him.
Let's see if that person agrees.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you, Andy.
I'm not a friend's guy either, by the way.
Can't do it.
What's up, boys in the back?
It's Maddie from Nashville.
What's up,
I've been listening to your show for a few months now.
While I'm working, making guitars, getting dusty.
I love what you guys do.
I had a quick question for you.
What's your favorite obscure stat in the UFC?
Mine lately has been that Cody Brundage has a 100% no contest rate against people with Abdul in their name.
I thought that was pretty silly.
Anyways, love the show.
okay mine uh just like really quickly off the top of my head is um who is bro from uh denmark
denmark oh um say his name oh god say his name why can't i think of it right now someone someone say it
in the chat wow why can i not think of his name denmark i can pick i'm james tehuno
Oh, that.
Man, this is riveting content here.
Say his name, and I'm going to...
Dalby, Dalby, Dalby.
His record against Brazilians is like six or seven or no.
Oh, that's a fucking great one.
Holy shit.
He exclusively, like, beat Gabriel Bonfim, beat Warli Alves, beat Claudio Silva.
Like, he also thrives when he goes into Brazil.
Beat Alex Olivaira, beat Alizeluzaleski,
Uh, like he, he just, like, dominates Brazilians for some random reason. And like a lot of those, he was a massive underdog. Plus 455 against Gabriel Bonfine, plus 110 against Warlie Alves. Uh, is always dogs. He's guys, plus one 30 against Alex Olivera. So yeah. Uh, the Brazilian beast, Nicholas Dolby. No, the Brazilian beast is Guillermo. Don't, don't, don't, give me a French. Danish dynamite Brazilian killer, Nicholas Dolby. Um, that's a great one. I don't have one better than that. So let's roll with that. Yeah, it's a, it's, is, I want to say he's a, he's a, I want to say he's a, he's a, he's a, I want to say he's a, he's a, he's a, I want to say he's a, he's a, I want to say he's a
5 and 0, 6 and 1, something crazy.
Boys, Eric
from Detroit, with the NFL
season approaching, if the UFC
were to do a combine, who do you think
would win the bench press competition, and
who would win the 40-yard dash?
Also, who would win at these
competitions in the uncrowned office?
Shout out gout, gout.
Shout out, gout, gout.
Combine in the UFC?
Who's the strongest?
Who's doing the most bench press reps?
Anybody got one?
It's got to be someone
in heavyweight
Right
Got to be right
Gilles and Almeida
Tom Aspinall
Probably Tom
Right
Who's like the biggest
Like strongest
looking heavyweight
We don't have the Brock Lesners
And those guys anymore
Speed
Who's fast
A flyweight
It's got to
Flyweight
Might be too small
though
Because you don't have
long enough legs
It might be like
A featherweight
Or a lightweight
Or maybe a welterweight
Or even a welterweight
Yeah
I don't know
Uncrowned office
I don't know
Is Marob fast
He's got insane cardio, but like...
I don't know.
There's no way to know if they're fast.
They don't have to run.
Yeah, they don't really run like that.
On Crown...
Chelsea Chandler?
I'm sweeping it.
Yeah, Chelsea Chandler wins the 40-yard dash.
I'm sweeping in the Crown Office.
Yeah, I would not do well in either of those, so I don't doubt that.
Hey, boys in the back with good in the hood.
What's up, bro?
Pete the plumber from T-DOT.
It's 31 degrees, feeling like 40 at the Humidex.
Whetting my bag off.
Just thinking about.
Oh, Celsius.
The cheat meal I'm going to have on Saturday night watching Dracus and Tomza.
Oh, what do we eat and what do we eat?
I was wondering what your guy's go-to cheat meal is.
Personally for me, I'm always a burger and fries guy.
Wash that down with a white monster so I can still up late enough.
This guy's living.
Yeah, man, shout out to you guys.
Shout out to the whole crew.
Keep doing what you're doing, man.
Peace.
I do not have a specific cheat meal, just eating something shitty for me.
Something greasy, right?
Whatever I'm in the mood for it.
Yeah.
I don't have one either
could be anything
pasta
I don't have like a go-to
yeah Mediterranean
sushi
pizza burgers
sushi is not a cheat meal
though
with how much I eat of it
yeah
and I'm also getting
like the specialty rolls
fried up
spicy mayo
and I'm probably gonna eat
like three or four
of those rolls
shout out
enjoy that meal
boys in the back
it's Matt from Nashville
again
oh we're back
what's up
42 in the morning
fucking out
clock in to work
clock in
I've got this question on my mind ever since the Paramount deal got signed.
And that question is, what the fuck am I going to spend that extra $80 a month on, boys?
2026 rolls around.
I'm going to be living like a king.
Want to know your thoughts on the best way to blow that 80.
I'm not going to save it.
I'm not going to invest it.
It's a fun money.
Give me a pound for pound.
Top five ways to spend $80 a month.
Love the show.
Boys in the back, best part of my week.
God, that energy
at 4.52 a.m.
Shout out.
You don't need to call us
like wake up for work
and then be like,
yo, got to hit up the BITV.
The man.
Shout out to Matt from Nashville.
Definitely don't need to buy
any white monsters back in.
That's for sure.
Best way to blow your money?
Bice and sell you instead, by the way.
That's the worst way.
You're going to blow the money
regardless.
Well, if you gamble and you win,
you have more money to blow.
Yeah.
This is a very,
Dangerous.
Ashville?
Slippery slope here.
You want to get dangerous?
I don't know.
Fentil.
How would you blow the money?
Develop a drug habit?
That's your answer?
Oh, fuck me.
It's not bad, actually.
Treat yourself to a great meal, honestly.
Go have a great meal.
Take somebody else out to dinner.
Nah, no, no, no.
80 bucks a month?
Spend that on yourself.
Supplement it with another $80 a month subscription.
You can get something pretty good for that premium.
Yeah.
subscription?
Yeah, they're a good jab.
Meal order pickles or something.
There's a,
there's like a racing car
club here in New York
that I looked up one time
and they have like F1 and NASCAR
simulators within the club.
It's like very exclusive restaurant,
social club with
like racing cars you can drive and rent.
It's like 350 bucks a month.
Put it toward that.
Yeah, I'd never do it, but yeah.
If you're in New York, put it towards that,
which you're not.
You're in Nashville.
So my recommendation is,
shit but enjoy the 80 bucks a month
what's up boys in the back what's up man hey mc McLaughlin here future uh the unc freshman
shout out you want to give a shout out to the other you both a student uh also named henry
i was gonna say double henry carolina boxing shout out um yeah mainly just give a big shout out
on the bike are now trading hope the distance season coming up let's go heavy hand henry first on
on chaos every turn in mid this year let's go let's go shout out to the
henrys uh when you want to get the work on the bike just let me know
what's up boys in the back what's up man
yeah that felt like henry here what's up hayden was just thinking about this new
ufc deal with cbs yeah you know how they have the games on nickelodeon the NFL games
for kids now yeah i'm hoping they do that for sure sponge bob versus squidward fight
Now? All right, thanks, boys.
Or what if just, like, Ilya, Teporia gets slimed?
Yeah, guy gets body slammed and is laying unconscious and they slime him.
You know how they do, like, the NFL game on Nick where, like, Patrick is the netting?
Imagine they just do, like, Patrick has the octagon.
SpongeBob pops out of a, like a knocked-out person.
The yellow octagon they did for, what, UFC 200?
Yeah.
Do that, but make it SpongeBob.
I love this.
Hey, boys.
And I'm Sam, and we're from Melbourne, Australia.
Now, last time we called, Frank was a way on business.
So to make up for it, we want to ask everyone in the crew,
what are your favorite Frank, count for pound moments of all time?
For me, I've got to go with the pie list.
Shrimp-fucked out?
Can't get any better than that.
Me, Frank, 311 list, can't be defeated.
The way the man completely lost the plot.
The pie list.
Do you all really believe that all those male men are actually really male men?
Yeah, they're really male.
Also, TC, I'm backing you in against H.S. Tiki-Toki.
One round in the ring, one round on the bike, and the third round is up to you.
What discipline are you choosing to end the trilogy with the famed H.S. Tiki toffee.
Shout out to Frank.
You're the reason the boys in the back have any female listeners at all.
Oh, shit.
Fuck.
Oh, what a lot.
A call.
That was incredible.
They started duo last time.
Now they've added...
Trio.
A female voice as well.
That's unbelievable down in Melbourne.
Shout out to you guys.
That just made my day.
That was great.
Funny you mentioned that.
I saw a clip of H.I.S. Tiki toki-talkie recently.
You guys know I have an affinity for them.
So I don't even want to fight them.
We won't do the ring.
We won't do the bike.
We'll just...
We'll go out for dinner.
That'll be round three.
I take H.S. Tikiiki out to a nice dinner.
What's your favorite Franklis?
The shrimp cocktail is a good moment.
The pie?
Yeah.
cocktail is pie. The 3-Eleven was a good moment.
The actual best list was
the headgear one. That was a great one.
That was a fantastic list. Today's was pretty good.
Frank you brought it. Um,
and then the reality TV
shows. What was it? Underworld or whatever?
Opposite world? Opposite worlds.
The greatest show.
It was number four in this list.
Number two. No, it was four.
Oh, I get that wrong.
What's up, boys in the back?
What's up, man, Andrew from New York City.
Oh, shit. I've got a question for New York Rick.
And I guess also a question for our GC.
No, no, no, man.
It's all good.
Now that we have UFC and the challenge on the same streaming platform,
if you could pick one UFC fighter to be a contestant on the challenge,
who are you picking, and why?
I'm taking Carlos process for obvious reasons.
Thank you.
This one's easy for me.
I thought of it earlier.
Oh, shit.
Instantaneously a name came to mind for me.
Who?
Dan Hooker.
Yeah, Dan Hooker will get drunk,
raided, rowdy, maybe organ,
organize some fights, maybe somebody tries
to step to him and he fucking
destroys them, he would be great.
I'm not thinking of anyone better than that.
I like that. Dan Hooker on the challenge.
Dan Hooker would be great.
What up?
What was good, bro?
First time caller.
Travis from Northern California.
Shout to no count.
Shout out to G.C.
Frank, New York, Rick.
Andy, on Air Jordan.
Just wanted to give a
quick one uh what would you think of gc watching some old school pride fights for a watch
party and let's see mysterious frank how about we get on some uh able to too blood gulch old school
you know what i mean blood gulch pretty old school and uh new york rick big magic the gathering
Claire, let's get down.
Full Master T.
Want to know what decks you're working with.
If you're a blue and red type of guy,
if you're a lifelink type of guy,
let me know.
Shout out to everybody.
Hey.
Shout out, brother.
Do you see, like, watch-along?
I feel like that could be fun.
For pride fights, that would be fun.
I don't know if people are going to be interested in that,
but I do need to go back and watch what they be.
Like, maybe we could pre-produce some content like that, though.
Sometimes I go on stretch.
stretches where I just watch like a shit done old
fights. Yeah, I think that could be fun
especially to get your reaction.
I would
like to see you reacting to those fights.
Magic, I'm playing
a landfall deck right now. I'm a
fucking loser. I play alchemy and
it's kind of the meta.
So that's what I'm playing. It's a green deck.
But I quite like
different.
I like switching it up. That's why
I play alchemy because you have to switch it every
so often. Isn't the most expensive magic
a card, a Lord of the Rings card?
Could be. I don't play the paper.
Yeah, it is the
ring. Oh, thank you.
I think that says it all.
Boys,
Eric, Denver.
I got three things.
One.
Connor. Yes.
Is there any truth to, I've seen a couple things on the
internet about
Spandool making a
rule or a thing about
some guys.
on the internet posting something, everybody winning a bunch of money because of it.
And now because of that, Sandool made a stipulation that if you make a bet when somebody
is something like that, that you cannot win money or something along those lines.
Is there any truth to that?
And if that is true, is there a possibility of that catching fire to other things like
draft kings, et cetera, et cetera?
second question this is for uh good old dot ed are you going to shout out to espn because uh you know
what happened now's your chance mailman fight league let's go all right third question
mr eric jetman eric jackman excuse me what's the story uh sorry low history um i saw the
youtube for the first time on monday at the end credits it says uh
Son of Bill.
It's my very first time watching YouTube.
I actually had the time to.
Normally I listen on Spotify.
First time watching YouTube.
That's incredible.
That's the story with Son of Bill.
Just curious.
Anyways, love that you play Magic.
We should play Commander.
No, no Commander.
Anyways, shout out, guys.
Thank you.
Why is it, Son of Bill?
That's a Jordan question.
I don't do the credits.
You are son of Bill.
No, that's my dad.
That's my dad, William, Bill, Billy Jack.
Shout out to Bill. What a guy.
Fucking legend.
Ariel's mom, my dad, the two biggest fans of our programming.
I hadn't heard about this thing that he's talking about.
So it was something that happened back in June.
This dude only parlayes gave out a home run parlay.
And according to NJ-based VIP rep of Fandul, they lost over $2.2 million on an enormously
circulated home run parlay last night.
And Fandul immediately made rule changes.
that will now allow them not to pay the gamblers who tailed the social media account,
who tweeted it.
But how could they determine that you tailed it?
I guess if you're just a big enough accountant and then a bunch of people took it.
We suspect that your account's usage could represent business usage,
so essentially like you're giving out picks.
Fandul reserves the right to void any or all bets made by any group of people acting
in conjunction with each other or any individual acting alone in an attempt to defraud Fandul's sports book.
If there is any real truth to that
And they start doing that
They will just continue to lose credibility
This whole like being limited
As soon as you start long term winning with places
Like really good gamblers are
Always trying to circumvent
The blockages and the limits that are put on by these places
So if all you're doing is not allowing people to win
People will stop betting
It's just an odd one also though
Because like people give out picks
That's kind of like how they do
In fact, like, a lot of the books incentivize you to, like, go with X, Y, Z person.
They incentivize you to go with Dave Portnoy and Big Cats, Picks of the Week, or Joe Schmo from XYZ company.
They don't incentivize you to go with the Sharp who is actually giving out winning bets.
I just don't know how you track that, but that's a fascinating one.
All right.
I think it would have to be, like, really wide stream, but they're making so much money.
I don't know why you limit these people.
just you have to understand
you're going to have to lose some to the winners
but you're going to make so much more to the losers
yeah well that's their game they know that
they'll make that
what up boys
just wanted to give a huge shout out to the people out there
doing God's work
aka the people putting up the illegal stream
I want to give a huge thanks to them
for getting this deal through with
USC and Paramount without them
we'd still be paying $80 for a pay-per-view
so thank the streaming
The real heroes.
The real heroes.
The real heroes.
Shout out.
Shout out, meth, crack.
East.
Y'all know.
What up, Dapper, Don.
There is.
There he is.
Calling under better circumstances, but we're going to get through this.
One way or another.
First off, yes, I am calling from the employee bathroom.
First man has banned me from calling the show, but that is not going to stop.
Well, Deford, Don.
Fight the good fight, Don.
So I'm going to have to deal with it.
I'm here in hiding.
He will find this out eventually, and I'm just going to keep rotating the different employee
veterans at PSLHQ.
So, tomorrow, Friday, August 15th, early card, 630, main card 9 p.m., Liz Karmouche, and
Jenna Bishop Clash.
Yes, we can't wait down.
Women's Flyweight Tournament Title.
Yes.
Good news up front.
More good news.
PFL Africa, huge success.
Francis Nagano is, you know, absent.
We have our own problems with air.
But headline is, amazing fight, tons of finishes, a lot of fun.
Love it.
To the egg on my face, or it seems that way anyway.
Martin Bucke is a fucking scumbag.
This guy, he seems all nice, you know, up front.
You know, see how you're calling him, the potential ghost of MMA,
the greatest potential heavyweight of all time all year.
Everyone knows that.
And behind the scenes, he's a real piece of shit, okay?
his coach, partner, Donka.
Octagon legend.
This is what kills sports.
This kind of shit, this is what kills the sport that we love of MMA.
Because this guy had the contract, signed, sealed, and delivered, right?
He was in the PFL.
That's why I said so confidently that I was breaking news that he was in the PFL.
And what does he do?
He hears your great show that we all love.
The boy's in the back, and he goes, oh, you know what?
I'm going to use this as a leverage to go backwards and get with Oxygon MNA to fight, you know, to regain this title he's already had.
So, yeah, if you want to go fight easier competition, okay, for whatever sweetheart deal they made for you to fight in the Coliseum, great, you know.
But the real fight, the real money fight is in the PSL.
and I don't like being negative, okay?
Glad we got that out of the way.
And, yeah, he killed a sport.
He's a fucking stumbag.
And a bad person person.
Shout to Martin Boudai.
The deal was done.
He just didn't want to do it.
And there's a great deal with oxygen, I'm sure.
You can't make a guy fight.
You can't make a guy fight, you know, real competition.
Okay.
Dog Walk.
Let's talk about Dog Walk.
It is by Blender Studios.
It is a casual exploration, wholesome game.
You explore a handcrafted winter forest as a big adorable dog with a little kid in tow.
A short, free, open-sword project.
It's literally called dog.
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
It's ridiculous.
It ends abruptly because Double D hit the time limit.
Oh, wow, you ran out of time.
Damn, shout out.
Love a good.
The Dogwalk game looks great, man.
Shout out to Blender Studio.
Shout out to Don Davis.
Shout to Martin Boudai and Octagon as well.
That was...
Congrats to Martin Boudai for signing with Octagon.
Yeah.
the Martin Boudai, man. No, no love lost here. We are big fans of Martin Boudi.
Any more, Frankie?
Super Chat.
Prangie's trying to get home, man. We can try to get kicked off. I'm trying to also.
Janet is here since $2 for the bald NFL hunk, number 23 jersey, number one in my heart.
Thanks, Janet. Appreciate it. You made my night. There's the 23 bald hunk. Thanks, Janet.
$2.00.
She wasn't talking about Michael Jordan, do you think? Made my day. Made my day, too.
why no South African restaurant for fight fees
because it's in Chicago
next time DDP fights
I'd love to try South African food
man there's still a lot we've got to try
No Che we can do Mexico
Shanghai not going to have enough time to do beforehand
but we'll get a Chinese one in there before at some point
South African would be great
Bill Tong
Can I tell you guys something
This is really breaking the fourth wall
And this is I probably shouldn't even publicize this
You just pee yourself?
I ordered DDP's
Bill Tong jerky
when he was selling that
he was selling
Bill Tong jerky
crushed the whole bag
I had a horrible
dinner
Oh my God
I'm not kidding
It could be what else
It could have been anything else
It could have been anything
But I did eat an entire bag
I did eat an entire bag
of Bill Tom jerky
I'm also not sure if he sells it anymore
I might have not been
He had it
It was like wait a minute
I'm I
I don't think he does sell it
I would have loved that fight piece
oh man it was uh I crushed
I crushed the end yeah
DDP still knocks meat co
no yeah you can still get it
No I think I think he's got it better
It tasted great obviously because I crushed the whole bag
But maybe I just had some undercooked meat or something earlier
Maybe some bad eggs
Oh fuck
But shout out to the Bill Tong
We'll have some authentic stuff
when we do our South African
Fight Feast
Clutch attitude says
Jordan you're the man
I darn peed on myself
when G.C. came out with the frozen
pizza. It was still frozen
when it came out the oven.
Much love.
What does Jordan have to do with that?
I think it was just
separate. Yeah, I guess it was separate.
There's no more haters, so
no more haters. He was trying to kill that guy.
Also,
uh,
overcoat. It was so burnt.
It was so fucking burnt.
Thank you for the $5. Thank you for the $5.
Rebuildable, Ryan.
This is the best MMA coverage
channel, Purious.
Oh, thank you, right? It is Purious.
Frank, you have editorial
decision making to correct that.
Yeah, I struggle enough
with the letters. They move all over the place.
Thank you. You do struggle to read.
Homsah was training with Sam
Calvita. Thoughts?
That was the strength and condition
and coach.
Him and Pico.
Yeah, like,
no thoughts.
Like, if he's a good,
I don't honestly, like,
know much.
It looks like they're working hard.
Yeah.
It looks like they're working hard.
Fucking Pico look like.
Adonis.
Yeah, I don't really, like,
know enough about Sam.
Like, I haven't really looked into it.
But yeah.
I don't know.
Good?
Yeah, we'll find out on Saturday night.
Both those guys.
We'll see what the results are.
Elchevvon Dream.
Honorable.
mention
Ben Ruff was
Perthard
third down
How did I forget that?
Oh man
And me and Mike
Heck were doing
a watch party for it
and it was
Oh I do remember that
That's such a good one
Actually you weren't there for it
That's when we were doing
The Jedmishu
Home one
So you were
You were chilling
Franks
I remember that
It was actually
Three of them
That we did like that
Yeah that
That is some of the
hardest I've ever laughed
And then I posted
The clip of it
And then a Steelers account
took it
And it got like
150,000 likes for the Steelers again.
Really?
Oh, so that was one of the funniest moments of our win.
And they treated it like they made the content?
Yes.
Great shout.
I wish I had thought about that.
That was so good.
Ben Rathesberger third down miscues,
and they just kept firing it.
And Ben Rathesberger hadn't taken a snap in like four years.
It was so good.
This is the last one.
Oh, okay.
Thanks, man.
Jay Hagel.
Wow.
Shout to Ben, Boys in the bag.
Underrated ESPN MMMA was Tito Vera, no-selling song-a-dong after losing a UD on the last arena show before COVID lockdown.
I don't really remember that one that well.
I'll take your word for it.
I might go back and look at it.
Another underrated one.
Paolo and Luke Rockhold doing a joint interview.
I think it was Paolo and Luke
I think it was Paolo and Luke
What does UD mean?
No, it wasn't Paolo and Luke?
Was it Paul on Luke?
Do you know what UD means, Frank?
Either un-
Unanimous decisions
Oh, nice.
Jesus, I was about to say, bro,
we have watched like,
Upset duck.
He asked Andy and I,
and Andy told him,
and he goes, you guys are fucking with him.
I was about to say,
this is going to be like our 40th watch party
this weekend.
And he had this smirk on his face
that was so big
that I was like,
there's no way I'm fucking
Okay, yo, back to the, back to the Ben Rathesberger third down miscues.
If you just type in Ben Rathusberger, third down miscus on Google, the top four videos are just me and Mike's reaction.
Oh, incredible.
Different Steelers accounts.
Mike.
Oh, God.
All time moment, man.
It was, I was thinking of Paolo and Marvin Vittori.
And Paulo had said ahead of time that he was going to miss weight.
And he just sits there trolling Marvin Vittori as if Marvin did something.
wrong. It was the funniest
fucking thing ever. It's a personal problem. Yeah. It's a personal
problem. All right.
That's all for the Super Chats?
Yes, sir. That's it for the show.
I've seen a bunch of people in the chat talking about
McGregor. Like, U.S.C.
Roster Watch tweeted that he's no longer on the roster,
but like I have no confirmation of that. I haven't seen
a reputable outlet.
Isn't roster watch not actually like
the Roster Watch account anymore? Somebody bought it
and then they were not doing Roster Watch.
I don't know. I need a much.
stronger confirmation of that before I
look at anything. Someone sent me
a Sports Illustrated article and it's just referring
to the roster watch tweet.
So, yeah, that's
we don't have any information on it.
So we can't speak to the
validity of any of that being true.
But this weekend, we can speak
to the validity of the main event.
Tricus Duplase versus Hamzaa Chimaev.
Watch the crack tomorrow after the
way in. They'll get you ready. Then Saturday night
right here, UFC 319
watch party followed by a
post-fight show with Mr. Ariel Hawani and Mr. Pizzi Carol from the Emerald Isle.
And then we're right back at it on Monday, baby.
Big guests next week.
Can't wait.
Thanks for watching.
See you then.
Enjoy the fights this weekend.