The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC 322 preview, Islam Makhachev chases Anderson Silva's record, Alex Pereira vs. Khamzat Chimaev?! | The Boys in the Back
Episode Date: November 13, 2025The Boys in the Back kick off the show with some news and notes, including Alex Pereira challenging Khamzat Chimaev to a grappling match and TKO's new partnership with Polymarket (07:04).Then, the con...versation turns to UFC 322, starting with Islam Makhachev potentially tying Anderson Silva's record for the longest winning streak in UFC history and the potential for Jack Della Maddalena to pull off the upset (19:29).After breaking down the stacked card (47:34), they make picks (1:34:27), deliver their P4P rankings of MMA grapplers (1:38:42), listen to your voicemails (1:49:39), and answer your Super Chats (2:25:52).
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But boys in the back
But boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.
What is good?
We are back with another episode of The Boys in the Back
On Ice, baby.
We are now officially skating like boys to men at Rockefeller Center
back in the 90s at Christmas, like Action Bronson said.
I am one-third of the boys in the back.
Connor Birx joined alongside me.
As always, you know him.
You love him.
them you can't live without them it's mr new york rick and then in the back we got frankie frankie how
you doing man it's up guys wow wow i thought the vibes were so high man i'm really feeling great around
you fight feast fuck that's delicious collab has made my day so i just i have to say i got the fuck
that's delicious shirt i want to believe somewhere out there in far away lands action bronson's
wearing a fight feast shirt right now absolutely the crossover complete he was walking down
a street in Williamsburg and he saw it on a rack and he got it and he snagged it oh y'all got the
fight fee shirt how much you want for it let me make you an offer i can't refuse uh yes if you were
just watching that thank you so much we we appreciate it greatly uh that was an incredible day uh truly a
dream experience for us to do that i feel like we we talked it into existence we spoke it into
existence we truly manifested it but uh yeah if you haven't seen it yet go and watch it after the show
It's already on the area Hohwana YouTube channel.
If you haven't seen it yet, tell them what they are going to see.
Tell them what it is.
Yeah, so Action Bronson joined us, NYC, you know, Fight Feast.
We do it for every card.
NYC, Madison Square Garden, UFC 322.
Could be the best card of the year.
It's absolutely stacked from top to bottom.
We got to match the energy.
So we match it with our White Whale, with the White Welf Buffalo,
with Bam Bam Baklava, Mr. Action Bronson.
He joined us, took us to three different spots.
and it actually was like a fight feast fuck that's delicious collab he was filming fuck that's delicious
i think we're going to be in the background of it just sort of like yo it's good boys in the
back actually in the background of fuck that's i might be in the background of one shot like
i was on fight feast you are going to be in the video very prominently oh very i mean we pulled
up i was like i was like damn this dude's talking circles around me like the energy that
action bronson carries and just like the way that he carries himself and like all the
one-liners that he's saying the whole time, it's hard to keep up with, man. And every room he walks
into, like, he controls the presence. Like, he sets the tone for it. So they were like,
yeah, Connor, get in there, man, get in there. I'm like, no, no, no, come on, man. Like action,
action can do his thing. He's with the chef. I was like, they're pushing me out there.
They're like, you're the guest, man. I was like, nah, chill, chill, chill, chill.
He, you said it perfectly. He has this very unique and rare thing. And I, and I think that
there's other people who have this thing, maybe not quite exactly the way he has it. But
he is such a presence
when he goes anywhere it's like
yo that's like action Bronson is here
but he's also simultaneously
this guy that feels very
approachable like he feels like he's still
one of us like the people walking
down the street are just like yo action
they don't even want to like really like bother him
they just want to say like yo I love you man
and then move on with their day
several people I heard like walk up to him
which like walking around with Action Bronson in New York
is literally like you're walking around with the mayor of the city
people just came up like I heard several
people would just be like, thanks for all you do.
I was like, wow, wow, this guy really, this guy touches a lot of people's lives.
But yeah, he has the aura when he walks in.
And so, like, you know, he commands the room.
It was incredible.
Three different places, got tacos.
He chose it specifically for Chepe Mariscout.
When he was the curtain jerker, they've now moved him up on the card.
They're trying to thwart our plans for the curtain jerker special.
But all in all, it was an incredible day.
Me, Frankie, Rick, E. Casey Leiden, flew in from California.
Ariel joined at the third spot.
It was an incredible day, not to get too sentimental, but thank you for everyone that made it happen.
Bronson for doing it.
I can't believe how in-depth he went with us.
We were like, yo, just join us at one spot for 30 minutes.
He's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, I got a whole day plan.
You're going to ride along with us.
We were with them from like 10 a.m. to like 6 p.m.
Yeah.
It was an entire day spent with Action Bronson.
It was an incredible day, though.
Thank you to E. Casey Leiden for editing it.
Absolutely killed it.
Like from the first footage I saw, I was like, man, how is this going to turn out?
to the final product, night and day, E. Casey Leiden is a warrior when it comes to editing things.
He is incredible, man.
The stuff that he can do is simply fantastic.
Thanks to Frank for audio.
That's the worst part.
Mysterious Frank is actually mysterious.
He was walking around with the headphones and the boom mic.
He had the pack on his side.
He looked like a real audio guy out there.
Anything to say to that, Frank?
No, I'm not going to acknowledge that.
Frank did his job.
Everybody there made a special can't thank action and his team enough.
like
shout to Chris
Yeah
What a
What a day that we spent together
Hopefully you guys enjoy that
Fight Feast took
A level up
You know Ariel's been billing it
As Fight Feast the movie
Has he said that?
I haven't heard him say that
He said that once or twice
You said that once or twice
Fight Feast took a level up
Thank you guys so much
And hope you enjoy
And yes
On Crown Films does it again
Casey is in the lab
Working on some stuff
So
Always shout out to Chris on action team
Shout to Bernardo on Action's team
Shout to Ovin for the thumb
Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone that helped with that.
It was a truly a dream to do that.
Action Bronson is a living legend.
Living legend.
I will always have that video saved on some computer, some hard drive,
so I can pull it up one day and be like, yeah, you know, I used to do it, you know.
They're like, grandpa's washed.
It's like, no, actually.
Unks chopped.
There was a time.
Not that job.
And, you know, like, we are enjoying this.
Like, this is incredible.
This is the pinnacle.
I don't think we'll ever top it.
But, you know, June of 2020.
I'm riding in my car.
I get a DM from Action Bronson.
This is summer of last year.
I was like, oh, I wonder what action said.
Check it.
All it says is FFXFTD.
Said nothing else.
I responded.
I was like, we got to make it happen.
He never said anything back.
We've just kind of been sitting on this like,
we're going to make it happen.
We're going to make it happen.
We finally make it happen a year and a half later.
30 episodes into the series,
make it happen.
So now we're manifesting something now.
Oh, you know, people started getting the hype.
You know, they get in the comments.
They're like, oh, this is sick.
This is sick.
sick, some names around the MMA space.
Oh, who do we got?
Coach Plino Cruz, jumping in the comments, fire emojis.
I said, training and eating with Plino, here's,
maybe a guest appearance from the champ,
maybe we'll get a little shama on the side.
Lino Cruz.
You know, the great Ashbell Castro, you know,
who works with Engage.
Yeah, the boys, Big Bell Castro and Volkub next.
Oh, cooking with Volt.
Cooking with fight feasts.
We're just putting it out there.
We manifested the Bronson, now we're trying to manifest, you know.
things that will match Bronson.
I was going to say bigger and better,
but that's impossible to get bigger and better
than Action Brons.
We are very hyped on that.
If you haven't seen it,
make sure to check it out after this.
Very, very proud of how it came out.
Thank you again to everyone who helped out with it.
All right.
Let's go to some news and notes
from around the world of MMA.
Speaking of Alex Pereira,
we just talked about Plinyo Cruz.
Alex Pereira doing a little chirping
with Hamzaa Shemaya,
if he released this video talking about Hamzad.
They're just talking about Chimaev's.
Oh, man.
Oh, that's a lot of him.
Boy, they're going to fight with me.
Por, there's to get to get.
It's a long, man.
They're just talking about Chamaa.
And then Alex is basically saying he'd come to his arena.
He looks directly a camera and says, let's fight in grappling.
And another thing, we can fight in the UFC too.
UFC is doing DJJ.
Let's do the USC BJJ.
Let's make that happen.
He said, I don't know much to make, but it's good money, though.
And he wants to donate the purses to charity if Hamzaa Tchaimae accepts the challenge.
Glover-Teshire said...
He'd bet the house on Alex Baer.
He would have bet his house in MMA, but this guy's nuts.
So, yeah, Alex Pereira, calling out Hamza.
He would have bet his house in MMA, but this guy's not someone to do BJJ.
So, yeah, Alex Pereira, calling out Hamza.
Shemayev, Hamza Shemayev responded on an Instagram comment essentially saying, let's do it, easy money, which, unfortunately, probably would be. Yeah, as a guy that I'm a big, big fan of Alex Pereira, love Alex Brer. If we're just doing BJJ. My level of interest in Alex versus Hamzad and BJJ is like five? You're interest in Hamdaat Shemayev going up to 205 to challenge for the belt?
11.
Yeah.
MMA, sign me up.
Like, inject that directly into my veins.
I might want to see that more than I might want to see
John Jones versus Alex Pereira,
even though I admit John Jones versus Alex is a bigger fight.
The BJJ one is interesting enough.
And, I mean, certainly for UFC BJJ,
that would be the greatest thing that ever happened to them.
Like, they're doing these, like, very, very BJJ-centric fights.
The MMA crossover fans that you would get watching Alex Pereira
versus Hamzaa Tchamayv and grappling would be insane for them.
Those 9 million views next time might actually be legitimate as opposed to the most recent one.
Darth Rikotin pushed down to the Komenade spot?
Yeah, it'd have to be.
That'd be dirty work, man.
Wait, he's a free agent.
Is he re-signed?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, good point.
Good point.
We're all waiting.
Maybe Alex Pereer is the new signing to USCBJJ to carry the flag.
I would watch it, but I do imagine that Hamzot would dummy him pretty easily in that realm.
Yeah, I mean, you're just going to his world.
It would be like if Hamzat was wanting to do a kickboxing match with Alex Pereira, you'd favor Alex Pereira to probably get that one. Probably favor Alex to get that one done there. So interesting. It's fun. I like the idea of Alex just being like open to these challenges. I like the idea of him just being out there for that. A little bit more news. Polymarket has become the official exclusive prediction market of the UFC and TKO announces a multi-
year partnership with the two brands. If you're not familiar with this, Polly Market,
Kalshi are these prediction markets. I believe you can do it on Robin Hood as well, where
they essentially set lines on, you know, is President Trump going to build the ballroom by the end
of 2025? You know, I think for UFC, I was looking at some of them. They obviously have the
fights that you can select the side on and if it will go the distance or not, but then they have
like, will Donald Trump show up at UFC 322, things like that?
It's very, like, predictive everyday things.
Here's a couple of the guidelines.
Polymarket will become the official prediction market.
Partner of UFC and Zufa Boxing,
Polly Market will power fan prediction scoreboard within UFC broadcasts.
I'm interested to see what that becomes,
whether that's like as it's going along,
like you have how fans are scoring it.
And then in 2026, UFC and Zupa boxing will be available.
on Paramount Plus, which we obviously already knew.
Interesting to see, they already have Draft King Sportsbook
is the official sportsbook partner of the UFC,
which I don't think any brand does the official blank of blank
better than the UFC, official vodka, official hard self-suit,
official hydration drink, official energy drink,
and now they get the splitting of the gaps to official sportsbook
an official prediction market, which, if I'm not mistaken, I thought I had read somewhere that
Fanduel and Draft Kings were trying to get involved in this prediction market space.
I don't know how that's going to work.
Obviously, they've got it figured out.
But Dana White was on CNBC and had this to say when asked about the partnership and gambling going on
in the space.
What do you think of some of the other situations we've been reading about in terms of what's
happening at the NBA, what's happening in Major League Baseball?
Yeah, unfortunately, these type of things are going to happen.
Let me tell you what's going to happen if you do it in the UFC.
I'm going to be the first one to go after you and try to bury you.
Yeah.
Made it pretty clear on how he feels about people trying to fix fights and stuff.
Federal fucking prison.
He's made it very clear every time, actually, now that I think about it.
But it is interesting because, as you said, like, they have a sports book partner,
which is your very traditional standard gambling, right?
That is the, I'm picking aside, I'm gambling.
I'm picking a method of finish.
I'm gambling on that.
Prediction markets are derivative, right?
Prediction markets are based on, like, overall sentiment,
and they rise and fall on that,
and we see a lot of times the way I've seen
prediction markets come into the mainstream spaces,
a lot of times around elections, right?
They're based on the action,
they're seeing that XYZ person is likely to win
because of what the support looks like.
And so it's going to be interesting to see
what this ultimately becomes as a partnership and what that like fan scoreboard and all these
things. But it is a further leap by the UFC, uh, into the idea of placing money down on
outcomes, right? It may not be exactly the one to one tie that it is for pick fighter X at
X line and, and they will win or lose. Um, but it's an interesting time for this to be happening
for them. Uh, it's an interesting time for this space to kind of mature. Uh, I'm not surprised.
You mentioned draft kings and Fanduel potentially getting into this, uh, space, this vertical.
I'm not surprised about that. I hadn't heard that, but that doesn't strike me at all surprising because there's potentially so much money to be made and they have such an infrastructure of people that they know will put money down on potential outcomes that makes a lot of sense for them as a business. So interesting to see, especially if Draft Kings or somebody that like UFC has partnered with does go into it and now they have this partner on the other side that does that. But either way, as you've said, another huge win on the marketing front for the UFC.
another example of hopefully one day down the line,
something that the UFC fighters could get a cut of if they were to make that happen.
But for now, UFC wins again in another massive deal with a space that seems to be maturing and growing
and probably has a lot of potential.
Well, what's really interesting about this is that you can't use it in the U.S. yet.
Yeah.
It is, it's going, it's legal in all 50 states and Washington, D.C.
like California has it
even though it's illegal to bet on sports there
Texas has it
all the states are able to use it
but it hasn't been launched in the US
so that makes me believe
that the launch in the US is imminent
and if you look at it man
it almost just like they're
just like gaming the system on
sports betting like if you go to the UFC page
right now they have every single fight
available for UFC
322 and you pick a side
if you put down $10
on Islam Makashiv, it would return you 1370.
If you put down $10 on Jack Delamadalena, it would return you 2571.
So it's essentially, they have it in cents, like the, I guess, cents on the dollar,
but it's essentially like a plus 250 and like a minus, you know, 310 or something like that.
So they're gaming the system, and then they have props like, will Trump attend UFC 322?
Yes, no.
Will Elon Musk attend a UFC event by December 31st?
Yes, no.
It's kind of like, I think, prize picks, a way that they're able to work through the loopholes, is making it.
You're not doing sports betting.
It's just, yes, no.
Predictions.
Yeah, predictions of it.
So it's very interesting to see something that's available to every customer.
And if you start realizing, oh, your friends are into this and, oh, this is just betting.
It's just you're using different terminology rather than minus 210 or plus 150.
You're saying, oh, he's 78 cents.
he's 28 cents. You'll eventually pick up on that terminology. It could lead to widespread
popularity. I mean, you see it now being featured on South Park and everything like that.
So it's blowing up. They're making a ton of money hand over fist. So once it's available
in the U.S., it's going to be very interesting. But I don't think it's a bad thing to ask Dana
about the effects of potential fight fixing surrounding it. Oh, it's all in the same soup, right?
If people can put money down on it, it creates these opportunities for a bad actor to come in
and try to make the market the way they want it to be.
They make the outcome the way they want it to be.
So, yeah, it makes a lot of sense to be having these kind of parallel conversations.
It's going to be interesting to see now that there's a swell of attention and a real zeal by the FBI to track down people that are in these types of gambling rings and in these potential game fixing scenarios, whether there's further.
regulation from the government, right? From the top
down, not necessarily from a
league perspective, but from the government
on some of these markets and how gambling
is accessed and what the rules and regulations
are and how all this stuff comes together.
It's a very interesting time, but in the meantime
another deal for the UFC.
Yeah, all I know is I'm going to wake up with
my official coffee of the UFC,
Black Rifle Coffee, get my car with my
official tire of the UFC, Toyo Tires,
drive to Buffalo Wild Wings, the official
pay-per-view sponsor of the UFC.
Drink my and
Benheiser Bush, the official beer of the UFC, when I need a little energy, a little monster energy around the main card start.
Don't forget the hydration.
I have a prime to stay hydrated, the official hydration drink of the UFC.
I'll place my wagers on draft kings, the official sports with the UFC, and then I'll make my predictions on the official predictive market of the UFC.
And then, you know, if I'm feeling parched after all this, I'll go get a Mike's hard, the official hard lemonade.
What are you wearing while you do this?
Complete head-to-to-ve venom gear, the official gear of the UFC.
And then if I get sore during it, I'll use Hyper Ice, the official massage therapy guns of the UFC, and then we'll finish it off with a quick trim afterward with my Manscaped Razor, the official shape of the UFC.
Well, that's for later when I'm late-nighting that night, and I'll be playing UFC 5, the official video game of the UFC.
And you're eating Prince Street Pizza, obviously.
Yeah, and then you've got to remember, you know, when tax season rolls around, I'll call TurboTax, the official tax provider of the official tax preparation service of the UFC.
where, you know, they do my taxes, but they have to make sure it's for my military status
because I was in the Air National Guard, the official military partner.
Ah, got it.
And yeah, you know, Morgan and Morgan will be my lawyer, the official law firm of the UFC.
I mean, it's fucking ridiculous how many officials they have.
And when I travel, I say a resorts world, the official hotel and hospitality of the UFC.
I thought you were doing this off the dome.
Yeah.
No, no, no, I have it right here.
I was pretty impressed.
If I get one, lucky one, if I get lucky one night, well,
go to RISFarma, the official
erectile dysfunction and hair loss product
of the UFC.
Round one underway here, the clock brought
to you by.
Okay, shout out. Polymarket
deal done with
the UFC. Let's move on to this weekend.
Shout out to RizFarma.
Shout out to RizFarma.
Shout out to him.
Just up the road there,
Madison Square Garden. You can almost see it.
It's just not quite in view. Madison Square Garden
is the site of UFC 322 this weekend, in my opinion, it is the most stacked card of the year.
I agree.
If you just look at it from top to bottom, the main card, the prelims that follow.
The last eight fights, inarguable bangers.
Yeah.
It's just like, it's fantastic.
Last seven fights, I actually think.
But let's start with the main event of the evening.
On one side, you have Jack Della, Madelena, the current Welterweight Champion of the world,
writing an 18-fight win streak.
loses his first two fights in his career
knocks off 18
on route to becoming
the UFC.
Wiltroweat champion of the world has not lost since
2016, almost a decade
since he last lost.
And then on the other side, you have Islam Makashev,
the former 155 champion,
moving up to challenge to become a
two-division world champion.
He rides a 15-fight win streak,
has not lost since 2015,
a decade, 15 up,
15 down, five times,
title fight wins mixed in there.
I don't know what that feels like to just have a decade of dominance,
but with that, 15, he is now one away from tying Anderson Silva.
We saw Kamara Usman come one minute away from tying it in August of 2022,
and then he gets the head kick, K-O, hurt around the world against Leon Edwards,
win streak stops there.
I really do feel like this isn't being talked about enough,
a record that stood for 12 years that feels like it's like almost unethwerews.
unbeatable. It takes so long.
This has taken him a decade of work to get to this point.
On top of the potential of becoming a two-division world champion, I think he'd become
the 11th in UFC history, the legacy markers that are on the line is incredible for Islam
Makashv here.
Yeah, and I don't think enough is being made about the idea that Islam probably could have
just stayed at lightweight and really coasted, right?
Like, he's kind of dominating all the challenges available there.
I think now moving up to that division
is the most interesting and kind of compelling
and the one that I think people would
probably think makes Islam the most vulnerable
if he was to stay at 55
but the idea that he is kind of risking
something here, right? He is kind of putting something
on the line. This wind streak that he's
potentially chasing, when you can tie
this wind streak that Anderson Silva has
it kind of makes you an immortal
and that's what we put on the thumb
for the show today. It's the type
of record that when you look back at the record
books, it does tell you like
who's who right there's all kinds of things like there's accumulative stats right like nobody's ever
going to touch max holloway in terms of total significant strikes like it's just not going to happen
if it happens we we might see like the most amazing fighter who's ever competed because of how long
max has been able to do it in the volume he puts out but there's some records that just stand as like
if you can be the record holder in this specific regard you are in the pantheon of the all time
grades. You are one of the people that we will talk about forever when it comes to this
sport. And what's crazy to me is a lot of times when guys are approaching these types of records,
it's probably toward the closer to the end of the career. But I do feel like Islam's like
right smack dab in the middle of his prime. Like it does not feel like we've seen the very,
very best of Islam Makachev. It feels like he can do it for a long time. It feels almost like
his predecessor, Habib, where I felt like when he was starting to, when he finally became
number one pound for pound, when he was approaching.
the territory of becoming all-time great, it felt like he had more left to give, and
Habib kind of went this way. I feel like Islam's going to go this way. If Islam can get this
second belt, and now he starts to rack up Walterway title defenses, he's going to start
pressing. He's going to start pressing into the conversation of greatest of all-time. I think
he's already there with a win on Saturday amongst the greatest of all time, but I do think he starts
to press toward that top spot, which is kind of bizarre to say, especially considering how
how I feel about John Jones and where he was in a field that I never thought could be eclips.
But to go back to this specific record, the UFC is the proving ground for combat sports.
Like, I certainly think that it is easier to win early fights now in the UFC than it was back then, right?
These days, you're going to be facing contender series.
It's contender series versus contender series.
Or it's you're a guy who's got two wins in the UFC and you're facing somebody a contender series.
To have that stretch of wins that Issa Makhachev has, and we should go back, it wasn't like
that was his debut.
He won his debut at UFC 187, and then he lost that fight to Adriano Martins.
So imagine if he didn't have that slip-up, what this streak could truly look like.
It's crazy.
He would also be 28-n-no going for 29 and a half if he didn't have the slip-up, but maybe
the slip-up ended up helping him.
I actually wanted to pose a question to you because this is his 29th professional fight.
if he wins on Saturday.
Yes.
Which he is favored to do so, but obviously fights happen for a reason.
You've got to see how they're going to play out.
He will be 28 and 1.
He'll have six title fight victories.
It will be a two-division champion.
Is his resume, 29 fights in.
Obviously, Habib went 29 and 0.
Is his resume better than Habib's?
I think it's already better than Habib's.
Wow, even with a loss on Saturday.
Well, that's different, right?
I'm talking about now.
Sitting here right this moment.
I don't need to see Saturday for me to say that.
I think Islam has had a better career than Habib at this point.
I think the wins are comparable, but I do think Islam has been better.
If he wins on Saturday, I don't think it's even a conversation, right?
That second belt in another weight class means a lot.
That's one thing that Habib wasn't able to do, right?
And again, we have to recognize Habib left when he still could have competed.
There's a lot of wins that could have been under Habib's belt.
Now, he also has the benefit of leaving before he lost, right?
And Ronda Rousey said this in a little bit of a crude way, but there is a true.
to what she was saying about the idea of like
Habib left in his prime
but Habib left when there were still
challenges ahead, right? There were other names
that could have come up and given him
a fight and we never got to see him be
vulnerable like we did with an Anderson Silva
or like we did with a GSP or like
we even did with Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson
who eventually falls to Henry Suhudo
although controversially.
If you stay in the game long enough
that happens which is
why Islamakachev tying Anderson Silva's
record, consecutive wins in the UFC is extremely impressive because if you stay around long enough,
you will lose in the UFC. The competition is just too good. And you eventually are going to
become champion like Islam Makachev did. And now you're facing killer after killer, after killer,
and now you're going up at facing another champion. It's incredibly underrated record. I think Islam
Makachev has made the extraordinary feel ordinary to a certain degree. And I think Habib has done
that before him as well, where it's just like he feels a never.
to a certain degree, even when Dustin Poria is pushing him, or even when it's seeming like
he's in a tougher fight than we would have thought, he has made winning and success in that
team, that Abdulmanop lineage has made winning and success almost feel like a foregone conclusion
to the point that, oh yeah, he's about to win this many fights in a row is kind of just like
an afterthought. It's an asterisk somewhere. It really is just like, it's mind-boggling what he's
been able to do. I think if he wins on Saturday night, gets the 28 and 1, and then gets a title
defense and breaks Anderson Silva's record. So one more after that. Then he will have a title
defense at Welterweight as well on top of winning the belt. He'll be 29 and 1. All of the accolades in
the world. I think he is then like, you are seriously talking about greatest fighter of all time
conversation because I know we have the Martinez loss, but he did get clipped in that one. It wasn't like he
got beat down for three rounds.
He got clipped, man.
That's what it is.
And now he hasn't been clipped for a decade, for 15 fights in a row, fighting the best
of the best in the world.
Like, you know, we're going to talk about the fight in a minute, and it's sort of
like, how does Jack Della win?
Like, he's going to have to be a dog.
He's going to have to get grimy.
Islamakashev can be a dog in there.
Like, he has taken some beatings from some of these guys and hung tough, man.
He's not the Habib where it's like, never saw him bleed, man.
Never saw him rocked.
We've seen Islamakashiv get hurt and fight through it.
written tough it out and will his way to victory. Also just like his ability to finish people.
I think it's like eight of his last nine opponents he's finished. I think Volk is like the only
one to go to a decision if I'm not mistaken. It's an incredible run that he's on. And I think with
a win on Saturday, you're talking about like he's in that upper echelon of like, yeah, man,
like Mount Rushmore and stuff. He gets a couple title defenses at Walterweight. We're talking about
potentially being the greatest fighter of all time. It's John. It's GSP. And it's probably like his name
enters the conversation there, right?
Like, a lot of people will start talking about Demetrius
and start talking about Anderson Silva and all these guys
who had incredible peaks.
But, like, when you look at the totality of the resume,
the guys that are up here, the guys
that are the real true number ones
when you have that conversation, is
John and GSP, because they
fix, John never lost,
right? The Matt Hamill thing, everybody
universally disregards that.
What's crazy about Islam is,
everybody kind of universally disregards
the Martines fight, which is
not typically what you'd see, right?
Nobody ever really talks about that.
But if any other, if Ilya had a loss on his record back then
or Connor McGregor had a loss
that they could really like focus in on in the U.S.E,
they'd be fucking burying them.
They'd be talking about how they were never any good.
But Islam, it's kind of just been like,
I've been dominating for so long
that nobody even brings this up anymore.
I mean, to this day, anytime McGregor posts anything,
you see in the replies, people posting the picture of him getting checked out by Havid.
Like, they're never going to let that go.
But like, yeah, you really don't see that.
like Islam, like him like laid flat out against Adriano Martinez.
You don't see the memes of Adriano Martins because it's just such a, he has done such a, what?
I mean, we talk about like the Alex Pereira, Israel Adasania, like guy in the bar.
I beat that guy one day.
If I'm Adriano Martinez, it's, I'm like the night, I'm like the, uh, 1973 Miami Dolphins or whatever was,
the undefeated Dolphins team that pops the champagne every time all the teams lose.
I'm inverse.
Every time Islam Machashev gets another.
win another title defense i'm popping champagne i'm just like i fucking beat that guy knocked him out
you think i didn't have it look at this here i am knocking him out cold that one on his record
that's me baby yeah that's what i say eight whiskeys deep if i'm adriela martins at the at the local
dive bar shit i don't i don't need one whiskey it's time to go home we'll call you a taxi now i'm
driving mr martins chill you want the same fate as Islam I'm driving I'm driving
Give me my keys.
Mr. Martinez, chill.
All right, all right.
We're getting down a 10.
No, it's a good one.
But it is a point in his favor of the idea of just what the last 10 years has been,
what the resume has been able to do in terms of wiping that away.
And so, man, it's hard for me to picture other guys.
Like, do I think that, okay, this Anderson Silver Record is a very, very significant one.
The other one, there's only one more out there that I think is like in this territory.
I mean, there's the max one.
but that's a legit untouchable still going and untouchable and and be a counting stat right it's just
like even if you're losing fights you can get significant strikes you can stay in a in a
fight and get significant strike so it's a different kind of territory the other one is the
demetrius johnson title defense record and now he's he's not in that territory right he is no longer
the lightweight champion so that's the type of one if he wanted to he could have stayed at
he could have stayed at lightweight and tried to match the title defense record.
He's taking an alternate path.
It's going to be interesting to see how those things weigh out when it comes to all these
debates and conversations about Goat and what that ultimately looks like.
But I do think the names that he puts himself in the territory of are John, RGSP,
whether you have Demetrius or Habib or all those other guys up there.
It's in arguable that he has to be in those conversations now if he wins on Saturday.
And all of this gets to take place at the Mecca, Madison Square Garden.
Like, this is the pinnacle.
This is what we wait for all year as a fan of this sport.
It's for cards like this that's taking place on Saturday.
It's truly incredible.
Let's get to the fight itself.
Jack Delamadal Maldaneh is not a walkover.
No.
Islam Makhashv is going up a weight class, 15 pound difference up to 170 to take on a natural
170.
Who is the rightful champion there in Jack Della Madalena?
I think Islamakishev should be the favor.
I think with the win streak, with how dominant he's looked through some portions of it.
I mean, you put him up against a guy like Kanata Moikano, obviously on short notice,
but it's just like walkover.
Yeah.
Like walkover.
Like the bottom half of the top 10 just like isn't even a challenge for him in that division.
I think he should be the favorite.
But the way J.D.M. fought the wrestling against Bala Muhammad.
And I understand that Bala Muhammad is not Islam Makashv, but they've trained together.
We do know that.
You know, best friends.
They can't fight against each other.
I think if he can have that anti-wrestling, if he can have that grappling defense, and basically just make it dirty, just be staying active the entire time.
Sort of like the Porier-Machchev fight.
I understand that Mokachev was winning that fight before the choke locked in, but like Porier was hurting him, man.
He was making that fight tough on him.
I think JDM's going to have to do that, but just like a step better.
Do what Volk did, keep it incredibly close the entire time.
Like, I think that's how he wins.
I'd be shocked if he catches him and knocks him out.
I know he's got that power in his hands, but I think it's going to have to be grimy.
I think it's going to have to be close.
I think he's just going to have to be ultra active the entire time.
If he gets taken down, you've got to pop right back up.
You cannot stay on the ground where Islam's just going to inflict damage throughout the entire round.
You've got to get back up.
If he pushes you up against the fence, you've got to get off the fence.
You've got to get the striking moments.
Like you got to get in the clinch.
I was going to say go for takedowns yourself, but that just isn't going to be that helpful, I don't think.
You've got to just make it grimy.
I agree with you
that that's the strategy
I would not point to Porier
though I would point to Volk
you mentioned Volk
I think that's the better route
and here's why
Porier's game
and Jack's game
in most cases
is predicated on like
a combination of power
technique and speed right
they're really good punchers
but they're not volume guys right
they can be
they can be if they're in a dog fight
like they can up the volume
but really the way
they get by is their technique is very clean, and when they hit you, they hit you harder than
you hit them. So eventually, it kind of becomes hard to stay in the fight. It kind of becomes hard
to be standing across from a guy like JDM or a guy like Dustin because of what they've been
doing to you and how they've been bombing on you. Volcanowski is a little bit different.
It's much more of a technique, movement, all those things, but the volume, right? It's the wave.
It's the avalanche of strikes that are coming at you to disrupt what you're trying to do.
And in addition to that, in a fight like the one where Volk had against Islam Makachev,
Volk's base, Volk's center of gravity is extremely low.
So he has a good benefit there, right?
If Islam wants to take him down, if Islam wants to get him on his legs, he has to really get low.
And Volk has a pretty solid foundation to be able to plant his feet and see if he could thwart that takedown attempt.
Jack's taller, Jack's longer.
it's going to leave a little more opportunity for Islam to get in on the legs
and try to get that leverage and potentially get those takedowns if he wants them.
And needless to say, the Dagestani guys in terms of takedowns,
it's not just like shoot for a double and if it doesn't work on popping back up.
It's that chain wrestling.
It's the grabbing, it's switching to the single.
It's moving into the cage and doing these things.
I think Jack's going to be a little more susceptible.
But if he can use the footwork, if he can prevent some of the takedowns or get up after the takedowns,
high volume.
If he just, in those exchanges, instead of trying to hurt Islam Makachev, which as we've seen, right, is very hard to do.
You can hurt him, but to finish him to actually get him out of there, you need to just have been Adrian Martinez on the best night of your life and that's basically it.
So if Jack can keep the volume high and win those in between spaces, whenever Islam is engaging in the striking, if you can land three to his one, if you can land four to his two and just start doubling up, I do think he can find success.
there.
All right.
So in the Bilal fight, he threw 342 significant strikes.
I think he's going to have to replicate that here.
That's what you have to do.
You just got to stay on the gas pedal.
The problem, looking at that fight, though,
Balal wanted to throw 300 strikes himself.
He threw 318 himself.
That's the problem.
I don't think he's going to have as many opportunities to throw that many strikes as he is.
He needs to make the most of those opportunities that he does have to throw strikes.
I was going to say, is he more cautious in,
the clip because he knows the threat of the takedown is always waiting.
Oh, he'd better fucking be.
I mean, we saw it in the Charles Olavera fight when Islam originally got his belt.
Charles O'Olavera is this agent of chaos.
He just brings the fight to you.
You saw a bit of that cautious, being cautious, from Charles O'Olavera, which you never see,
because you know the threat of the complete package from Islam Makashv,
so we could see that from JDM on Saturday.
That's the other thing, though, that being a high volume and not necessarily wanting to sit
down on your punches and hurt them allows you to do, right? Because you can keep on the footwork.
You can keep moving. You can throw punches and bunches. When you want to plant your feet and try to
hurt Islam Makachev, man, those feet are about to come off the map because you're going for a
take. You're going for a ride when he takes you down. I think Islam's watching the tape from the
Basil Hafez fight. I'm sure. You know what? He might not. He might not even be. The game
plan is the same with Islam Makachev, and it's different than the Habib. And that's what I've always
thought was so unique about Islam compared to Habib is.
Isam's perfectly happy to throw hands with you.
Habib kind of did too.
He was a little bit of a striker by the end of his career,
but Isla can trade with the best of him.
I don't think Islam will be out of his depths at all
in a pure striking battle with JDM.
In fact, we saw Bilal Muhammad who people hate
and would criticize to the cows come home
about he has no hands and he's just a boring,
crack sniffer and he's just a wrestler,
stay on the feet with Jack Della Madalena for the majority of that fight.
Isam would be totally...
Crack them up.
No, Jack beat him up, but look, Balal got his licks in there, too.
It was a good fight on the feet.
Islam, I don't think, is going to be...
Islam doesn't have to worry about Jack on the feet
as much as Jack has to worry about Islam in the takedown.
On the ground, yeah.
That's the big difference in the fight.
And I think that key advantage is going to be very important for Islam.
But that's not to say that I think Islam is better than Jack on the feet.
That's just to say that the gap between them is significantly smaller than the gap in the grappling.
The Balal fight did show me some technique things, though.
and some strategy things
that Jack was way, way, way improved.
His work with Craig Jones
and the rest of his staff
and the rest of his team
has paid dividends.
There were things that he was doing
in the Belal-Mohamed fight
that you did not see
in the fights with Gilbert Burns
and Basil Hafez
and other parts of the fights
where we go,
oh man, maybe Jack doesn't have
any takedown defense.
He looked significantly improved.
There were some technical things
that you could see
that he was doing differently.
Gilbert Burns went seven of 11.
Yeah.
And racked up over five minutes
of control time. We did not see that in the Belal Muhammad fight. Belal Muhammad got three
takedowns and three minutes of control time. That was not the same, that was not the same guy.
So I think it will be harder, but man, the gap is still, that if you're looking for what is
one of these two fighters' clearest path to victory, it's absolutely Islam Makachev taking
down Jack Della Madalena. There is a world where the takedowns are coming for Islam and
they're coming frequently and this looks kind of like one-way traffic. There's also a world
where the takedowns don't come that easy.
The weight, the size difference
actually does matter. We've seen guys go up
weight classes and actually struggle.
Obviously, the most recent instance,
being Ilya, in a stylistic
matchup that worked well for him,
isn't the best example, but, like, you have guys
like Israel-A-Sania put their undefeated records on the line
against a Jan Blahovic, and it's just like,
it's just too much. The size difference
just matters too much.
I don't know if that's going to happen here, because
I don't really worry about Islam's size.
That's the problem.
His height isn't an interesting.
issue. He is also jacked to the gills. If I ever, if I ever looked like Islam Makashchev,
I'd be walking around here, shoving people into lockers. Like, I'd be like, what are you
going to do, bro? I'd take five milligrams. Until you see Adriano Martinez at the bar with the one
drink. No, no, eight whiskeys lined up. Oh, there goes, there goes Martines. That to me is the
difference, though. Israel Asana is not a light heavyweight. At the end of the day, like he,
it was a valiant effort. He went up there. Jan Blahovitch is every bit of a light heavyweight. And
Israel Adasanya is not.
For all accounts, when you hear fighters talk about when they see us on Makachev in person,
every one of them says he's a welterweight.
Every one of them says that this is the way class he really should have been fighting at.
And may have even been the same with Habib.
A hundred percent.
So that grip strength test, that 161 is crazy.
Are you shocked?
No, I'm not shocked.
It's the most like, yeah.
I know it's Aiden Ross, but I think Aidan Ross was literally tapping to him grabbing his arm.
He's like, no, no, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
I mean, I would do the same.
He does do the show.
161 pounds of force is quite a bit.
He's an absolute savage.
I've glazed him quite a bit in this,
but I do think Jack is going to be a tougher fight
than maybe he's getting credit for.
I actually agree with that a thousand percent.
But I don't think this is the guy that stops us on Lockachachov.
I just think people find a way to give fighters an air of invincibility
when they're on these great winning streaks,
been so dominant. I mean, just look at the last
fight, Tom Asperol v. Cyril Gahn. I could
even admit to being guilty of like,
man, I think Tom's going to run through him. And then, you know,
you get three or four minutes into the fight and you're like,
huh, this is going
differently than I expected. I think
the way Volk fought
in the first fight, some people felt
the same way. They were surprised
with how competitive he was keeping
it. Obviously, this is different circumstances.
Volk is all time. You know, he was pound for pound
number two at the time. J.D.M.
sort of got a circumstantial title shot.
and capitalized on it, all credit to him. He is the champion. But yeah, I just do think sometimes
people get caught up in the record, in the dominance, and they give fighters this air of
invincibility. Absolutely, that happens. I'm seeing some people just being like JDM has
no chance. No chance, yeah. I do think, though, that team in particular, Islam, Habib,
Umar even
They're almost
They're almost
What's the word I'm looking for?
They're they're almost bulletproof when it comes to that right
They are as good as the win streaks show
They are as dominant as the performances show
They are every bit as good
And they have a thing
That other people don't have
That is just the truth in the same way that Marab has a thing
That nobody else has right
Not even Umar, not even somebody who I consider a special fighter has in that gas tank, in that cardio that nobody can touch. Nobody can do anything with.
They have this wrestling foundation. Do you have these fundamentals? They have this base of Sambo combined with different forms of wrestling, different styles. Habib more so, right?
Habib was this guy who would get in on takedowns and he's transitioning between six different styles before he gets you down and you're completely cooked.
Like he's just a load to deal with.
They have this thing that they've been trained from birth to do that nobody else can do.
It does not matter how long you've been doing MMA.
Jack Della Madalena has been doing MMA a shorter amount of time than they've been on the mats doing this for their entire lives.
It's just not possible.
You can't make up that experience and you can't make up that foundation.
So they're the most protected from that kind of, in my opinion, that team, that group is the most protected from the idea of just like,
well they're dominating but like it makes you think they're invulnerable they they truly might be
invulnerable it really is just that simple all right official prediction uh who and how i think islam's
going to sub him wow yeah to be crazy i don't know when maybe second maybe third
i i think islam's going to sub them there's going to be a point in the fight where i believe
that jack is not going to be able to prevent the tak down and when he gets on his back it is going to
be extremely tough sledding.
I've been here since the Pete Rodriguez days.
I ain't jumping off the train now.
Are you kidding me?
Donnie Giacomo, split decision victory at the garden.
Drops them in the fourth round.
Everyone goes nuts.
Arguments on Twitter.
One, four, and five.
No, no, no, no.
Two, three, four Islam.
It all came down to that fourth round.
How'd you score that one?
That's my favorite.
The Volk?
No, when you get a title fight in it, it's just like,
it's all going to come down to that second round.
How'd you score that one?
Yeah, we know.
Ben, is that you?
We know.
The Volk fight was that.
The Volk fight did come down to a round.
The Volk fight is one where people were like,
I thought Volk won, X, Y, Z number of rounds.
Even Porier, right?
People, I think, remember that one as being a little closer
than it actually was on the scorecards.
Islam was up 4-1.
Is that a 5th round finish?
Yes.
Yes, fifth round.
He was up 4-1, but I do think that...
I think one judge had a 2-2.
That was it.
One judge had a 2-2.
I do think that...
3-1-2-3-1-2. There it is.
That's right.
Yeah.
Because it didn't go to five different rounds.
I do think that Jack is going to be better than what people expect of his takedown defense, but I don't think it's going to hold up over the course of the five rounds.
That's where I'm out.
It's tough to deal with the pressure that these Dagestanis.
But I don't expect like this, I don't think Islam is not Habib.
And we have to continue to kind of like talk about this.
Islam is not going in there to shoot doubles on Jack Delamattelina.
May he? Is there a world where it looks like Bobby Green where he just takes him down once and it's just a rap and it's night night? Sure. Like that's a possibility. But I don't think he, I think he respects Jack Delamadena. I think he respects the challenge ahead of him at Walterway. And again, remember, the guys he've been fighting have been 155ers. And in the case of Okunovsky 1.45ers, it's not like it's going to just be as easy to get a 170-pound guy like Jack.
chew the ground. So I don't think he's coming in there
with the game plan of like, oh man, I got to
take Jack down. Once you psych yourself
into that and you're like, I got to take Jack down
or the opposite is what
I feel happened in the Bilal Muhammad fight
where Balal was like, I got to stay in the feet. I got
to prove to people that I can box with Jack
Delamadalina and it didn't look the
way he wanted. That ain't going to happen. I can promise
you this camp.
Yeah. The two things they're going to do,
they're going to come in mentally ready and they're going to come in
physically ready. He will be prepared
for this fight. If Jack gets heavy on that
leg at any point, I think he's going for a ride. That's basically where I stand.
Oh, that's incredible. I can't wait for this fucking fight. If Jack's floating, if Jack's
bouncing and he's landing three for every one from Islam, it's going to look like a really
good fight. And I think he's got a real chance in that. The moment that leg starts to get heavy,
the moment he starts to plant for a shot, I just can't see how Islam doesn't gobble that thing
up and dump him. Pause. What a task ahead of him. How he doesn't crack him, you know?
gobble it up and crack them.
What a task ahead of JDM.
I mean...
And Islam.
It's crazy.
Yeah, of course, of course.
In front of both of them.
And the fact that it goes down at MSG,
I got a grin from ear to ear just thinking about it.
It's going to be incredible.
Let's go to the co-main event, another unbelievable fight taking place at the Mecca, Madison Square Garden.
Pound-for-pound, women's number one versus pound-for-pound.
Women's number two, the highest-level women's-s-MMA fight.
I think you can make right now. Valentina Shepchenko versus Wai Li Zhang doing the same exact thing
as Islam Makashev moving up from 115 up to 125 to challenge for a second belt. And we talk about
the Anderson Silva, you know, wind streak stat flying under the radar. I think the fact that
Zhang Wei Li could become the first double champion, two division champion at 115 and at 125, or even at
125 and 135 in
135 in women's history is
significant. Obviously, because these are real divisions.
Yeah, the only, not to shit on women's fly away
but it doesn't exist anymore.
Like, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not to shit on women's featherweight, but it doesn't exist anymore.
The only double champ in women's history was Amanda Nunez
and it was 135, 145.
It was kind of like...
I would dare say women's featherweight never existed.
Yeah.
When Cyborg...
It existed when Cyborg was there and after Cyborg was...
Before Cyborg was there, it didn't exist.
And after Cyborg left, it didn't exist.
And after Cyborg left, it didn't exist.
exist. There was no 145 other than Cyborg. Yeah, I mean, she's getting title defenses against
like Megan Anderson, where she's like a minus 800 favorite going into all of them.
Felicia Spencer for the Featherweight title. It just wasn't top level competition that she was
fighting. It was bad. I think the fact that Zhang could be 115 and 125 champion is
incredibly significant. Totally agree. The one thing I'll say is Amanda's win to become the 45 pound
champion is. Oh, yeah. Don't get me wrong, bro. Amanda Nunez, the run she went on from, what is it, March of
2016 to December of 2019 is bulletproof, ironclad, unreal. Shevchenko, Misha Tate, Ronda Rousey,
Sheffchenko, Pennington, Cyborg, Home, Jermaine Durandum. There's no arguing that.
If you beat Cyborg, you have beaten the best 145-pounder on the planet, bar none, in my opinion.
They should have just closed the division down at that point.
in my opinion the best women's fighter of all time
and so this is the chance that Zhang has
in my opinion like whatever happens from here
to become flyweight champion
you are going to have to beat the best flyweight of all time
you are going to have to beat the one that
universally unanimously
no debate is the best
who ever do it in this weight class is the best
to be doing it right now she's
proven herself as the flyweight champion
if you get this done you have done
the impossible right you have done it against
the best. And so it is an extremely tough challenge that I think is in front of her. And if you're
Valentina, you have thoroughly kind of just like cleared this division out to the point that
the toughest test is probably somebody like Zhang, who is the strawweight champion, who is
as respecting it and admired amongst her peers as, as you are. This fight is, this, I think this
honestly might be my favorite on the card. I think this is my, my favorite fight that
that we're going to have.
I love the fight.
Zhang Wei is one of my favorite fighters, so is Valentina Shepchenko.
I mean, both of them are fantastic for the sport.
I don't know if it's the one I'm looking forward to the most.
Like, I think it'll be a high volume, a high level match,
but like there is a chance that it isn't like the most entertaining fight of the car.
Go back and watch Zhang Wei versus Yohanna and Jacek.
Go back and watch that shit.
I mean, what?
Oh, of course, the OG one and then also the spinning back fist on 275.
I had the over one and a half in that one.
If you find somebody who will stand and strike with Zhang for a bit,
like I expect Valentina to be able to do.
Yeah.
You know what?
Maybe I'm not going to be able to do.
This one's going to be a bagger.
Enough credit.
Maybe it's just like the,
maybe it's like the,
the like end of the Tatiana fight and the last two Grasso fights.
I was like, yeah, no.
Yeah, this one's going to be sick.
This one's going to be sick.
I'm with you.
I like the idea of them just like throwing down striking,
each throwing like 250 strikes over the five rounds in it being.
exciting. I think it could go that way
and I think
now does it have to necessarily
do I think that Valentina Shofchenko
might try to take this into the grappling
realm? Maybe. Because there's been times where we
see Shevchenko really dedicate herself to grappling and make that
her game plan, right? What was it, Grasso
2 or 3? I forget which one
three, right?
Grasso
Which is the one where she... She kind of used it in both, but in
Grosso 3 she got to 8 take down. Okay, that's the one
where she just kept taking her down over and
and over and over.
What if that doesn't work, though?
Oh, no.
The takedown defense that Zhang showed against Tatiana Suarez was like,
you don't have shit for me.
Like, going into round two, Tatiana Suarez must have been like,
fuck, I am fucked.
I've tried taking her down several times.
It's not working, and she's piecing me up on the feet.
Tatiana's all hard, but she had, the difference between Tatiana and Valentina,
I mean, obviously they're different, right?
But the biggest difference is for Tatiana, that's option one, two,
three, right? If I don't take Zhang down, like, I'm cooked. With Valentina, hey, I can stay in a
strike. Like, I'm a decorated kickboxer. I'm a decorated moitai fighter. I can do this. I can do,
I can hold my own here. But she's also not as good in that one singular wrestling discipline.
I think if Valentina is going for takedowns, it's a lot more opportunistic. She has very good
timing. We see, we saw in the Manon fight, like when she wanted to sometimes kind of mix that in,
she was able to do it.
We also saw her susceptible
against it against her as well.
I do think at this point in their careers,
I think Valentina is a little more,
a little less devastating,
a little less like of a fight closer
than I expect Zhang to be.
Zhang is a powerhouse.
Like you just,
you take one look at her and you can tell,
like she can crack and then you see her fight
and you know that she brings that kind of power.
I do think she's going to be the one
who's landing,
probably the stiffer shots.
And I do worry that at this point in her career,
if Valentina has become a little bit more predictable, right?
The game plan, the patterns, the tape is out.
The same way, like, the reason Anderson Silva's record is so impressive,
not to go away from the co-main back to the main,
but for a second, the reason that Anderson Silva record is so impressive,
and the reason why John Jones is the goat is because there is infinite tape on these people.
When you fought 13 times and won 13 times in the UFC like Anderson Silva,
everybody knows what the hell you can do.
When you're John Jones, you've fought 30 times in the UFC
and have won all the time,
everybody knows what you're going to do.
Valenciano Chouchenko, there's infinite tape on her.
And every fight you get is the best up-and-comer
starving.
Starving for that belt.
There's an Alexa Grasso every time.
There's a Tatiana Suarez.
There's some kind of challenger
that's always going to be there
that is this is their moment.
This is their best opportunity.
Zhang is trying to make her name on Valentina Shia
Chenko. And so she's had to do this over and over and over and over and over. And there's so much
out there. I do wonder if at a certain point, somebody like Zhang Wei Lee, who brings a little
more explosion, who's just a little bit more powerful, who might be able to just stand in the
pocket with her, finds the patterns and can close the show. Two things to note. I did misremember
that Tatiana fight. She did get a takedown and some control time in the first round. That was the
only round she had any success. That was it. That was the rest of the fight. Number two, they are
37 and 36, so the age isn't that different, but I do agree with you in the sense that, like,
it feels like this like career resurgence from Zhang, this like almost like championship run
part two, she's just been like that much more aggressive, that much more of like a dog, just
like great physicality. And I think she's going to bring this here. I think it's kind of similar
to Islam Makashev in the sense that like, bro, she was strong as shit at 115 and now giving her
those extra 10 pounds to bulk up. I mean, she's picking up who, Shaq and Francis and Ganu at this size.
Whoever, yeah.
So I think she's going to add on muscles.
She's going to do it properly.
You know, if you watch Embedded,
she talks about how all she literally does is just eat sleep, train,
eat sleep, train, eat sleep, train.
She's dedicated to this life.
I think she's going to come into 125 properly.
I think her explosive and her speed is going to carry.
And I'm going to give the edge just to Zhang Wei.
I mean, I did it last December, 11 months ago.
We did the prediction show.
I said she'd beat Tatiana Suarez.
She goes up to 125.
she beats Valentina Shepchenko,
double champ,
female fighter of the year.
I'm not changing on my prediction now.
I love it.
I was on Tatiana in that fight.
I was proven wrong.
I do believe that
Zhang is going to be a little bit sharper,
a little bit faster,
a little bit stronger.
I lean ever so slightly there.
But in saying that I do believe
she's going to have those slight advantages,
I think they're very slight.
I think that Valentina is still very, very good.
I think she's extremely high level.
it's going to be close and it's going to be close and it's going to come down to winning rounds
and so would I be shocked if one of those rounds that just needs to swing goes her way
not even a little bit this is one of those ones where if you just showed me Saturday night
and it was them reading out the score cards it was like 4847 yeah
bell 4847 saliamano and then you're a winner of a split decision i'd just be like yeah yeah
that's not any girl can either woman can win this one
It wouldn't shock me either way.
Finishing potential, though, you have to lean Zhang, right?
Like, if you're...
I think so, yeah, but I don't think she's finished her last three opponents.
Yeah, it...
I felt like she could have gotten Janjohn-Nan out of there,
but, like, she's talking about dog.
Yeah, and Janjanon is, like, this tier of dog.
Like, um, barking in there.
I do, I just feel like the power, man, and especially moving up at the...
Sometimes, obviously, when you're moving up a weight class, you're losing power, right?
Like, when you're talking about, let's say you're a middleweight going up to 205,
you're you're giving up something actually probably in terms of the power department because at middle weight those guys can crack but now at at light heavy weight there's a different level of power i think the difference in power between 115 and and 125 is actually to the point that if jang doesn't have to deplete herself and cut down she's actually probably going to be more powerful at 25 i wouldn't be surprised if it's more similar to like iliotoporia where it's like oh i don't have to sacrifice this in my body or connor mcgregor right i
I don't have to sacrifice this in my body.
I don't have to be at such a calorie deficit
that I'm cutting out some of my strength
and you get up to that new weight class
and that power translates
and that power carries super well.
I actually expect Zhang to maybe be a little more powerful
at 125.
Maine and Co-Main are unbelievable.
You have two fighters
trying to become two division champions.
The four fighters combined,
JDM, Islam,
Zhang Wei,
and Valenti,
Shepchenko. Yeah.
48 and 6 in the UFC.
Yeah. This is as good
as it gets. Forty-eight and six
in the UFC, and then their individual records,
Islam 27 and 1, Jadim, 18, and 2.
Valentina, 25, 4 and 1,
and then Wiley Jang, 26 and 3.
Is Islam still number one pound for pound for the UFC?
Nah, Alia.
Okay. So you've got the number two pound for pound.
I think JDM's like eight or nine.
The number eight, and then you've got the one and two, right?
fucking crazy.
It's nuts.
Crazy.
With titles on the line,
legacies on the line,
like it's incredible, dude.
It's as good as it gets.
If you're not excited for this,
you ain't a fight fan.
Let's go to the featured bout on the main card.
Sean Brady,
our boy,
our duck,
taking on the undefeated Michael Morales,
18 and 0.
I actually want to show a couple pictures
of Michael Morales rolling around New York.
City. If you know
Ball, you know, Michael Morales,
Miles Morales, into the
Spider-Verse, he posted these
pictures going around. In the Miles
Morales, Spider-Man suit,
I've got to say pretty sick. I think
Into the Spider-Verse, or across the
Spider-Verse, whichever one the second one was,
is my favorite movie of the decade so far.
Went and Salton Theater's three
times. Absolutely loved it. Can't wait for the third one.
They could finish this trilogy off beautifully.
Honestly, I'm due for a re-watch.
I'm going to re-watch it tonight.
unbelievable movie
but yeah shout to Michael Morales
showing a little bit of
a little bit of personality there
that's also his IG pick
is just the Miles Morales
He looks good in the suit
shout out
shout out to him looks
looks good period
you know rocking the purple shorts
the platinum blonde hair
18 and O
he's got the look
but on Saturday he gets
Sean Brady
a lot on the line here
if he's able to get this done
if he's able to finish Sean Brady
in the way that he finished
Neil Magny and Gilbert Burns
my God, he might get the title shot.
If he goes out there and knocks Sean Brady out in the first round,
there's a world where this kid gets a title shot.
Very possibly.
Now that's easier said than done.
Can you do it against Sean Brady?
Who was in a very similar situation three years ago,
undefeated prospect, gets a guy near the top end of the division in Bilal Muhammad,
kind of meets his match in that one.
Sort of like, you need to go back to the lab and work on a few things,
gets knocked out in the second round by Bilal Muhammad,
now on a three-fight win streak since then.
Michael Morales, 18-0,
getting a guy at the top end of the division.
Is it too much too soon for Michael Morales?
Or is this guy just the truth?
I mean, sometimes when fighters have O's,
it can make us a little bit delusional in the fact that, like,
they're unbeatable, they're untouchable.
And, you know, most of the time,
except in like the case of Habib,
you see that O get taken away eventually.
Yeah.
I think Michael Morales is every bit as good as his record.
And I think the physical gifts that he has are a huge advantage over every welter rate he's going to face.
Like he is just a massive human with insane power, freak athleticism.
Those are the attributes you'd want if you're a fighter.
Across from him, though, I think we have one of the better technicians in the sport in terms of the grappling game.
Like, Sean Brady is an absolute A-plus grappler.
with strength and
strength to get you to the mat
strength technique he has everything
in order to control where the fight goes
to me this is like one of those fights
that I really don't actually know which way it's going to go
I lean ever so like I don't really have a strong lean
like in the co-main I feel Zhang
but I expect it to be close
in the main I feel Islam
I expect him to finish the fight
with this one I really don't know
I truly do not know how this is going to go
because I think if Sean Brady
can get mitts on him, and if Michael Morales isn't able to just plant his tree trunk legs and
be like, no, you're not taking me down, if he takes Michael Morales down, he's in a world
of trouble. Sean Brady is the type of guy that all he needs is one takedown, and you are,
you are in a very, very bad position. On the other side of it, if Sean Brady slips up in
any phase of the striking and Michael Morales launches those massive arms at him, he could
go to sleep instantaneously. It just is that. So I don't know which way this goes.
this feels like more of like a
this is like rock paper scissors
to me right where it's like
we're gonna just throw these hands out there
and somebody's gonna win
I don't really know how it's gonna go
but somebody's gonna have paper
and somebody's gonna have scissors
or somebody's gonna have a rock
and somebody's gonna have scissors
and one of them's gonna win
but it's not like I don't think there's like
the shades I don't think there's like
the the storytelling in this fight
where it's like it's gonna be like
in this phase he's gonna do this and this guy
is gonna have this moment
one of these guys is gonna implement
their game plan and all they're lost
In the Gilbert Burns fight, it didn't last long enough for him to get testing the grappling.
Max Griffin went for like eight takedowns against him.
Max Griffin is not Sean Brady.
This is one of those fights.
I'm with you where starts out, minute in, Sean Brady blasts the double stuff.
They're back at range.
That's bad news.
Sean Brady tries to get in on a single, you know, Michael Morales hops around for a bit,
shoves them off their back at range.
I will immediately be like, there's a chance that Sean Brady's in trouble here.
And then on the flip side of that, if Sean Brady blasts across the cage, puts his back up against the fence, tucks his legs out, dumps him down onto the mat, it'll be the same thing for Michael Morales. I'll be like, Michael Morales is probably in trouble here because he's probably just going to go for a ride again. The dominance that Sean Brady showed against Leon Edwards. Yeah. And I understand that Leon Edwards is at a different point in his career than when he was holding the title in the back-to-back wins over Camaro Oussbaum. But dude, to do it.
that to a former champion just like pillar to post and be the first guy to finish him,
I think he has improved his game significantly since the Belal fight. I see some people being
like, oh man, if he gets caoed by Belal, then like, what's Michael Morales going to do to him?
It's just like, well, that was three years ago, and he has been training nonstop ever
since and improving his game. I don't think it works like that. I think it's the inverse.
I think he's now the one being the veteran. He's taking the lumps in the UFC. He's, he's
fought at the top tier of this division
and I'm going to edge him but
whoa easy
Jesus we're all over the place you're like rock
paper scissors they're going to go out there and just
throw it out I was like all right man
someone's getting cracked
someone's getting cracked yeah
I'm going Sean Brady but
these all three of these
so far it's just like do not
come in me win and if they're wrong
the only thing
I do want to go back to the ball
fight because
Sean Brady's mind was not
in the right place of that fight and he can't he's come on
several times to talk to Ariel about that like
he just wasn't mentally where he needed to be for that
fight and it was a it was a really rough fight for him
in addition to the fact that when you're going into fight Belal Muhammad that's not
what you're preparing for right like you're not
expecting to get
a flashed by yeah you're not expecting
to get flashed by Belal Muhammad you're expecting to have
kind of like uh
We're all over the place.
Yeah, we're saying a lot of...
John Brady flashed by the Will Muhammad.
Pause for everything from this point nowhere.
But my point is, I say that to say,
Sean Brady is taking a fight against the guy
that everybody knows that his path to victory
is to stand there and put you on the end of a punch,
or like some kind of kick or knee or whatever.
But his path to victory is to hit you at range,
is to just strike you with something that is devastating
and take you out of there.
Whereas Balal I think is a very well-rounded fighter
He has different weapons
He has different ways to win the fight
And so
If you are Sean Brady
And you accept this fight
You know what you have to do in this fight
There is no secret to what your game plan has to be
You have to stay extremely safe on the feet
You have to stay out of trouble in every part of that
And then when it comes time to take him down
You take him down and you submit him
And you get it done there
So I think by Sean Brady
Even signing on the dotted line
Against the killer like him
He knows what the game plan is
and he is going to stick to that very, very strictly.
Can't wait for that one.
These top three are so, so good.
So is the rest of the main card.
Let's keep it rolling.
Leon Edwards versus Carlos Proches, Sean Brady's last opponent.
I actually saw a crazy butterfly effect.
It was supposed to be Leon versus JDM in London.
Yes.
And then JDM had to pull out, but then Shavkat was injured,
so he didn't ever get the call.
So they needed someone for Belaw.
and so it ended up being JDM
and then Sean Brady steps up against Leon Edwards
It's like this whole spider web of the Walterway division
But now you have JDM versus Islam
And then Leon and Sean Brady fighting underneath it
Leon gets Carlos Proches
And we got some new venom shorts here
That a picture's been surfacing of Leon and Prochis
in these new shorts
And a lot of people I see out there saying
you know, oh, Leon got his chain snatched.
He lost his, he lost his custom shorts.
Oh, these look great.
I am, you know, the number one shorts guy.
The OG Venom are actually the best.
We don't need these updates.
For sure, all the Venom shorts are great.
This picture everyone's like, yo, Leon got his chain snatch, bro.
He lost his custom shorts, man.
He fell off, like Unka's chopped.
He didn't have his custom shorts against Sean Brady.
Just at the black shorts.
Now, this is it, man.
This is the peak of MMA fashion.
Throw some red triangles on there.
Triangles on the side, on the hips.
Conspiracy floating around out there that, you know,
they always announced the new shorts on Tracy Cortez's card.
I can neither confirm or deny, you know.
It's a valiant conspiracy theory.
Yeah, new shorts, though.
They suck.
As do all the shorts that Venom makes for the U.S.
They suck.
I don't know why we need a new one.
It's just the OG back in the day where...
There's nothing special.
Do we have custom shorts?
Did we get any new revelations of custom shorts?
No, because they...
I think the purple's a little bit richer.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Thank the heavens.
Yeah.
Thank God we got the richer purple.
Turned up the richness on the purple.
The clip art was firing on all cylinders that day.
Fucking hell.
These garbage-ass shorts.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is it.
God, they always deliver it, aren't they?
Black and gold looks good.
Oh, it looks so good.
It looks so good.
But fitting of a champion.
The yellow looks fucking horrid.
The whole thing.
thing is just, what is this?
What even are the triangles?
Look a big GM3.
Look at our guy machine gun in the dark green.
Chapay.
Whoop.
By the way, BSD,
I'm noticing this now.
I've always noticed it, but I've never articulated it.
The beard always looks like he's frowning.
The beard into the...
He looks like a ventriloquist dummy.
Like someone's going to put his hand in the back
and start talking with him.
He always has that.
And the beard outlines the shape
because it's like around the mouth line.
Can't wait to order these in every color?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
The tights, the moitai.
Oh, yeah.
The one with the cut up the side.
Who's got the new custom with the clip art on it?
I didn't see any custom ones this week.
Oh, wow.
Did Islam have custom ones?
We've been robbed.
All right.
Leon Edwards, Carlos Proches.
Carlos Proches is a sizable favorite.
Mine is 200 in that range.
I don't know where Leon's at in his.
career, but after watching the Ian Gary, Carlos Proche's fight, Leon Edwards has never been
knocked out. This fight is only three rounds. Is there any world where Leon Edwards is able to
implement a similar game plan as Ian Gary? Yeah, there absolutely is. I think it's extremely
likely that Leon Edwards is going to have some good success on the feet. The thing about the
Ian Gary fight, though, was it did not look like Carlos was Carlos.
And he's not come out and said anything about that.
He hasn't said anything to the effect of, like,
a reason why he just didn't show up for that fight,
but he did not look like himself.
I would not, if I was Leon Edwards,
that is definitely not the version I would be expecting to come into the cage.
I would not be praying that the I am Machado Gary version
of Carlos Proches walks into the cage.
I'd be preparing for that Jeff Neal version.
I'd be preparing for that Neal-Magney version.
And if that version does show up,
I do think Leon's in quite a bit of trouble.
because the power is just completely different
the power levels between those two
is about as big as a gap
as you can have in a division
Carlos is a guy who puts people to sleep
and Leon is not right
save for the Kamaru Usman head kick
from the heavens from the gods
he is much more of a volume
and technique guy so
I'd be worried
you know I love Proches
could someone bring me my cigarettes
I forgot my cigarettes in the control room there
love Carole
Carlos Proches, if he is able to put out Leon Edwards on Saturday night, Leon Edwards would
have then lost three straight, be miles from the title, been submitted by Sean Brady, first
time he ever got finished, be knocked out by Carlos Prochis, first time he's ever been knocked
out. Where do you go from there at that point? It feels like the career is approaching an end if
that were to happen. It would be bad, but I would point to a counterpart in Kamara Usman.
who experienced some similar turbulence
who kind of hit the bump in the road
and then was able to write the ship
and actually is still like a
relevant and present guy in this division
I don't think this is doom or gloom
for Leon Edwards if he loses
because you look at the level of competition
he's facing
Balmah Muhammad, Sean Brady, Carlos Prochette
these are the killers of this division now
like these are the guys
I wouldn't I wouldn't jump too quick to a conclusion
that like it's over for Leon
like this guy could never be anything again
I think he can still hang around the top of the division
but what I would need if I was Leon Edwards
is a favorable fight
like I would need a fight against the guy
that I can get my mojo back with
and win the fight and look comfortable on my feet
and showcase a little bit
these are the types of fights that you take
when you're trying to get back to a title right
if he loses to Carlos
I don't think he's getting back to a title
and I think that's when you start looking at
how can I stay relevant in this division
give me somebody that's a good matchup
I'll actually make the argument that he thinks that this is
this is that by getting Carlos
Prochis, who is a striker.
Losing the grapplers. It's possible.
And getting a strikler, I think he thinks that this is a
very winnable. I would think maybe a little longer
in the tooth, but yeah, he maybe
because he's talked about it, right? It's been
a while since, like, Sean Brady,
Balal Muhammad, Colby Coving to Kamar Usman,
Kamar Usman, not since Nate in
2021, as he faced a guy whose
primary style is not grappling.
Now, granted,
Balal Mohammed has
has become a little bit more of like a
wrestle boxer, right? It's not all takedowns. But for all intents and purposes, Colby, Camaro,
Balal, Brady, these are grapplers. These are primarily grapplers and guys you have to worry about their
takedowns. I don't think we have that same expectation for Carlos. I think we're expecting them to
stand in trade. The difference, though, is the youth, the hunger, the power. That is a, like,
there was a point where Leon was that guy. Now I think Carlos is that guy. Yeah, I also think that
the loss to Ian Gary can be a learning moment for Carlos, not to just rely on the not.
knockout because if that Ian Gary fight stops after three rounds, which this fight is going to be,
it's just like, damn, he got his door, his doors blown off.
Yeah.
Obviously, he had the moment in the fifth round and it looked like, you know, he could potentially
be doing something in terms of getting a finish.
He had, you know, he and Gary crawling to the side of the cage and everything like that,
wasn't able to get him out of there.
But, man, if that one only goes three rounds, it's just like, damn, 30-27s across the board,
like Ian Gary just showed levels.
He looked pretty back against Jeff Neal.
Yeah.
He looked pretty back against Jeff.
I'd say so. I'd say so. Let's go to the last fight on the main car. The first one we'll be
watching on Saturday night. Wait, so I'm leaning Carlos. Are you in agreement there?
Carlos, Carlos. Come on, get the sigs out. I'll be cheering for old Carlos on Saturday night.
But Neil Darius, taking on Benoit, Saint-D-B-S-D. I think this one is just like,
what Darius are we going to get? It's knocked out by Armin, gets knocked out by Charles,
gets dropped bad by Moikano. It was looking like we were on the way to three straight first round.
K-O losses,
dogs it out,
gets it done
against Moikano.
And honestly,
on the flip side of that,
what BSD are we going to get?
Gets a couple wins back in a row,
but man,
like there was a,
that Moikano fight,
the Porier fight,
it's just like,
who's going to show up?
I think BSD is making the proper improvements.
He's still young in this game,
and I think he gets it done here.
I think he brings just like
that violent nature to Dereus.
And like where he outdogged Moichano,
Moichano admitted to getting tired.
I don't think BSD is going to let that happen.
No, there comes a certain point
where you can't be the guy who only
is tough, right?
At this point,
the technique for B'Neil,
the level of skill against Moikano
looked diminished, right?
He still had that dog in him, as you said,
he survived danger,
a lot of danger
in the beginning of that fight
and was able to tough it out to win.
Against BSD, when you're in danger like that,
it's not the same as when you're in danger against Moikano.
Like, BSD will close the door on that.
BSD will finish that.
And BSD is a guy who hit a little bit of a rough patch.
Since then, though.
Against Moikano.
Since then, though, ruthless.
Like, ruthless sufficiency.
Like, the hoopie was nuts.
Just domination.
The hoofy was like, I'm back.
Yeah, he looks back.
He looks like he's figured out what he needs to figure out
in terms of, I'm not only here to get into wars,
although he loves the war.
I was going to say, bro, Daryush can crack.
Like, this could end up being, like, a super exciting focus.
Garyush can crack, but, like, as the years go on, that starts to fade.
The, the timing, the speed, the ability to read that starts to fade.
You get the gray in the beard.
Is this a...
Well, he's been gray since he was, like, 12.
Is this a Daryush-Moycano type situation?
No, no, not.
BSD's still just 29.
I thought it was going to be like a...
No, no, no.
BSD's on the younger side.
And so...
BSD being 29.
He's kind of tripping me out.
30?
Looks like he's fucking 38.
Yeah.
He looks like he's been around.
That is it.
Even though he's like a nice, like, happy guy.
Oh, he's always smiling.
But in the, in the, um, the portrait photos.
Or it's just.
Yeah.
In the portrait photos, it's that.
Um, I, I expect BSD to actually, like, I'm surprised he's only like near, what is he
near two to one now?
What do we got right now?
BSD minus 180.
I'm a little surprised.
Yeah.
I think this is BSD's fight.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be a good one.
Let's go, uh, quickly to a couple on the prelims.
The featured.
prelim of the night. Doesn't get the main card slur, but he gets the feature prelim
Bow Nickel taking on Hidalpho, Vieira, trying to bounce back after his loss to Rainier
de Ritter in Des Moines, which we were at. Back in May, just got the fight brought to him,
the knees crushing, ended up finishing him. He's taking a ton of flak sense. I think he's
ready to bounce back. Gets a grappler this time in Hedolfo Vieira. I kind of feel like the
grappling is probably just going to equal out. They'll end up striking, and I'll favor
or Bo Nicol?
I don't.
Oh, wow.
Hadoffo Vieira.
No.
I don't think the grappling
he's just going to say,
fuck the striking.
I'm taking this dude down.
I think it could
respectfully to
Hadoffo Vieira.
Yeah.
If Bo will control
where this fight goes
and he will finish it
in either.
I mean, of course,
he dominates in the wrestling.
But does he want
to take it to the ground
with Fiera?
Yes.
Okay.
And if he's in there,
he's going to hurt him
pretty bad.
Yeah, I also think
I think after the
the RDR fight.
I think he knows that
let's get this one to the map.
He's going to be a lot smarter with that.
He will have probably an advantage
in the striking just from
the lack of damage that he's taken
throughout his career. Yeah. And Hidalpho has taken
his biggest advantage
is going to be on the mat. If he takes
Adolfo down, look,
bottom game, BJJ
is very difficult in
2025 MMA. Like, it is just difficult.
These wrestlers have gotten so
fucking good at sitting in guard
or finding a way to side control
and just staying safe,
Hidalpho is, as far as, like, decorated
pure BJJ practitioners goes,
this guy is cream of the crop.
This guy is one of the best of all time
when it comes to that sport.
But in MMA, we've seen them submitted
by Fluffy Hernandez, right?
Like, it is not the same game.
It's just not the same game.
If Bow's able to get on top,
I think it's going to be bad, bad, bad for Hidalpho Vieira.
I expect it might happen.
And so I think this is a,
a really nice bounceback matchup for Bo and I think he's going to cruise.
He needs it. I agree. I think he gets it done. We will see how it plays out on Saturday night.
Roman Koppilov versus Gregory Rodriguez Robocop. This is a banger.
This is an absolute banger. I've like, I like completely blacked out on the Koppilov-Kasta fight.
I like barely even remember that thing happening. I was like, oh yeah, I guess they did fight to a decision.
Costa got back in the wind column. Six of Koppelow's last eight have not gone the distance.
seven of Robocop's last eight
have knock on the distance
these are two dudes who if they get in a
kickboxing match I think someone is going
to get put out. Yeah and
it could be either one
but I'm leaning
Robocop. I tend to favor
him in these types of things because he's just shown
such a propensity to be able to take
the damage and he
almost like kind of surprisingly knocks people out
after taking that damage. It's one of those like
holy shit I can't believe he reversed that
I'm a fan
and I think Roboble Cops
can have a slide edge here
not only takes the damage
but it almost feels like
he enjoys the damage
a little bit
it gets him going
to the point that now
he's like
oh I can finish this fight now
was knocked out
by Jared Kennedy
or was knocked out
by Bruno Fahara
so I wouldn't put it past
Roman Coppilov
for sure
it's going to be fantastic
man these last seven
must see television
must see television
let's keep it rolling along
one more fight before we go to break
Aaron Blanchfield
versus Tracy Cortez
rematch of their
2019 split decision
in Invicta
Tracy was the one that got our hand raised there
now Aaron Blanchfield is the minus 235 favorite
but obviously that was Aaron Blanchfield's fourth professional fight
Tracy Cortez's sixth professional fight
very different fighters at this point in their career
it feels like this is the fight that's like
guaranteed to go to a decision
both like grappling heavy styles
and if they do stay on the feet
not a ton of power
both durable women
I just don't see either of them getting in a finish
in terms of a winner
Blanchefield,
the improvements she's made
since the 2019 fight
are massive.
I'll side with her.
I side with Blanchfield
because I think she's going to be
able to determine where it takes place, right?
I think Tracy is a very
aggressive wrestler,
but I do think she's going to have
trouble getting Blanchefield down
or getting Blanchfield to stay down
and keeping her there.
Whereas with Blanchfield,
she doesn't necessarily need
to take Tracy down,
but if she does,
she has opportunities for submissions
and she's going to be able to control that.
So I think her being able to dictate whether it stays on the feet
or goes to the mat, I think is going to be the advantage there.
But you're right.
Like it is similar styles coming back at each other.
I can see it being like a greasy split.
Yeah.
I could also see it going like the Rose fight,
but Rose had five rounds, the Rose Tracy fight.
Rose had five rounds in that one.
And it was kind of like as the fight went on,
she was able to start getting takedown.
She knocked her down at one point.
It was sort of just like the amount of time spent in the octagon.
Rose just proved to be better.
Over the three rounds, man, I could see it.
It's just being nasty close.
Yeah, I agree.
It's one of those that it's like maybe not a lot's going to happen and not a lot to score
because they're going to be so good at neutralizing each other.
Yeah.
All right, those are the first eight.
We'll break down the rest of the card after a quick break.
Do not go anywhere.
We'll be back in just a moment.
All right, let's keep rolling along on this UFC 322,
just a few more fights to get into.
And the next up is a big one here at Uncrown Studios.
Malcolm Wellmaker taking it on Cody
Haddon. We love our Aussies.
We love the Australians out there.
Much love to the Australians. We'll be supporting the Australian
in the main event. At least I will.
But this is a Malcolm Wellmaker program.
This is Malcolm Wellmaker household.
This is Malcolm Wellmaker family.
We support the machine around here,
the true machine at 135.
Easy.
And that's Mr. Malcolm Wellmaker.
Not much to break down.
I'm thinking right hook, four straight, a la.
Walter Walker, heel hook, four straight.
The toughest test of Malcolm's career.
Easily.
By a mile.
Biggest stage as well.
But a guy who seems prepared for the moment, right?
Like, he has met the challenge on every level, and you can't teach what he has, right?
That devastating power, that athleticism, that ability to kind of find that hook is, it's the Alex Pereira thing, right?
It's that thing where it's just like he knows how to get to his spot and he knows how to knock people unconscious.
Malcolm has proven that so far in his run.
We'll see if he can do that again.
I wouldn't be surprised if maybe this one gets extended a little bit, but I do expect that he will be successful.
The one thing that does concern me is that he talked to, when he talked to Halwani on Tuesday, he talked about how in every fight where he's gotten taken down, he's been able to get to the fight back to where he wants it to go and be able to strike with the guy.
I am curious to see what happens if he isn't able to do that.
If he isn't able to get up, if he isn't able to change the game plan from what his opponent is trying to implement on him.
And we'll see if that happens on Saturday night.
Every round starts on the feet, my friend.
Every round starts on the feet.
And I'm going to favor Malcolm Wellmaker if it stays standing.
It's going to be a fantastic fight, though, because if Cody Haddon's able to pull it off,
he kind of snatches a little popularity off a Wellmaker.
I feel like Wellmaker's got a nice flow going to him.
I feel like he's easy to root for.
People are on board with him.
Cody Ahead can stop that train on Saturday, though.
You're 100% right.
It definitely, that momentum has felt.
What's crazy about it is, like, Malcolm at 31 is this, like, Uber prospect.
He's the guy that everybody's like, man, Malcolm, Malcolm, Malcolm.
I kind of felt similarly about Adrian Yanyes for a bit where I was like, he's the guy,
the guy with the hands, that crispy boxing.
We love him.
And everybody was trying to push him.
He hit a little bit of a rough patch, and we saw what happened from there.
Cody is 27.
So if you get a win over Malcolm.
all of a sudden you take some of that shine and you're able to capitalize on that,
he's a guy that you could quickly pivot to getting behind.
Malcolm, like, he even has like a way that he speaks and acts that it feels like he's younger
than he is.
100%.
Andy in the back was just like, man, he's just so Gen Z.
I was like, no, he's my exact age.
We graduated high school.
What are you?
Your, you're...
Millennial?
Millennial?
Yeah, yeah.
I think I'm...
Young millennial?
Am I a millennial?
I'm seeing millennials getting shit on online these days.
Who's to check?
I'm checking, Frank.
I'm to check.
getting shit on these days.
Yeah, born between 81 and 96, so I'm also a millennial.
All right, it is time to break down the Action Bronson main event,
which by default becomes the G.C. main event.
Oh, I love it.
For the week, Jailed Mershart, GM3, taking on Kyle Dawkins.
This is the one.
You circle this one.
There it is.
GM3, Kyle Doccus.
We're doing a lot of hand today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cranking.
Good God.
It's a little confusing.
Cranking, huh?
Cranking, what?
What's the wrong with both of you?
Action Bronson main event.
GM3 not on a great run right now, man.
No.
Three straight losses.
Finished and two of them.
12 and 12 overall in the UFC now.
37 and 20?
It's a lot of fights, man.
Fucking hell GM3.
It's a lot of fights.
Would it be crazy for me to say that I think he needs this win to potentially keep his job?
Or do you think he's just one of those guys that just hangs around?
I would keep him forever.
Yeah.
Why get rid of a guy like that?
He's happy to show up.
He's happy to be either side of the thing, right?
It's either young guy that needs the rub and he can get over on GM3 if he gets a win,
or he can be like the veteran guy who they're putting him in against another veteran,
but he has a little bit more name value and you could build.
Like, I wouldn't let him go.
If he wants to keep fighting, he's the type of guy that I'd keep around forever.
So no, I mean, he's beyond wins or losses at this point.
When you're 37 and 20, it's not a win or loss game.
155th UFC fight.
Yeah.
It kind of feels like a Brad Tavares territory.
Have they fought before?
Yes, yeah.
Two fights ago for him.
Mikhail Ola Sheikik and Brad Tavares were his last two.
Brad Tavaris is the striking GM3.
Yeah, for sure.
The high volume striking GM3.
Doc is cut back in 2022.
Goes over to CFFC.
He's able to get the title over there.
A couple title defenses comes back against Michelle Pereira.
an underdog,
finishes him in the first round,
snags a 50K bonus,
and now he's a minus 500
to get his second one
in the UFC this year.
I don't know if I love that
at minus 500 for a guy
that gets a lot of submissions
against the dude in GM3
that's very hard to submit.
I do think Kyle
will be the superior grappler,
but the submission
that GM3 might be able
to throw up is always at play.
GM3 is definitely live,
but...
You'd have to get to round 3, though.
Yeah, minus 500 is...
No, minus 500 is...
No, minus 500's nuts.
Minus 500 is nuts.
It's a hefty price to pay.
That's a hefty price to pay.
All side with Docchus, but not that confidently.
I'm in the same boat.
I think Docis is going to control this fight, but that is an absurd line.
That's a Hamdi line where it's like, why?
Why do we have to have that line?
Hamdi looked great in that fight.
No, he did it.
Good enough to get cut.
Yeah, exactly.
No, he really didn't.
He looked on the level of Chris Barnett, which is not what you want from like, what was he 600,
minus 600 or something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not what you want.
Barnett's ass is out.
This is the whole mess of a mess of a thing.
Chepe Mariscow versus Pat Sabatini,
the second rematch on our UFC 322 card.
We had Aaron Blanchfield and we had Tracy Cortez this time.
Chepe machine gun Mariscao versus Pat Sabatini.
They fought at Victory FC60,
where I believe he won a split decision,
just like Tracy Cortez won a split decision over Aaron Blanchfield.
Chepe Mariscall, though.
Yeah.
Eight fight win streak.
Yep.
five and oh in the UFC and I was looking at his losses today outside the
UFC Joe Anderson Brito made it to the UFC
Steve Garcia made to the UFC as a top 10 featherweight
Sean Soriano made it to the UFC didn't have success over five
Bryce Mitchell made to the UFC ranked featherweight
Gregor Gillespie made it to the UFC went seven and one like ranked lightweight
for sure he's bro he's nice with it like he even his losses outside the UFC are to
high level of competition five and oh in the UFC now he gets a
rematch against Pat Sabatini?
Action said it, man.
We're signing with machine gun.
I do lean
toward him in this fight.
Sabatini is extremely good, though.
In the grappling realm,
this is one of the nastiest guys
that we've got. And so
Chepa is going to have to keep himself safe.
But on the feet, man, I do think
Chepa is going to be able to find his spots there.
So I'm leaning toward Chepa. It just feels
like he has so much momentum right now.
You got to get the weight.
In order, right? You got a big weight.
And then I think it's going to be great.
Philly's own.
Philly zone.
You could do a little Pat Sabatini, Sean Brady Parley.
You're a Philly guy.
This is a really fun fight, though.
This is when I'm looking forward to a lot.
Angela Hill will be taking on Fatima Klein.
Fatima Klein, a massive favorite.
Not surprising.
Stylistically, this feels like Klein can take it where she wants to go in.
It'll be in her realm.
Angela Hill is the GM3, right?
It's like she has fought every single person in this division.
She's got, he's 18 and 15, I don't know how many of those in the UFC, like 33 professional fights, 28 of them in the U.S. Yeah, there you go.
The other four and Invicta.
She has been in the U.S. for her entire career based on that.
But stylistically, yeah, it feels like Fatima Klein can kind of find this on the mat, take it where she needs it to be, and then win the fight.
So I side toward Klein.
Also, 25 versus 40.
Like that is a massive age difference
Crazy, yeah, I favorite Fatima Klein as well
The one that was not in in Victor or UFC
Was the U.S. Freedom Fighter Championship
This might have been a little foreshadowing
Broadcast on gFL.tv
Whoa
They were the GFL before the GFL?
I think the GFL before the GFL
Main event in that one, Lonnie price.
Can I get the music one time?
Frankie
Wow!
Wow!
You took it off the floor.
You got rid of that?
You don't think they're coming back in 2026, Frankie?
He's gone.
Wow.
He doesn't even want to talk to us.
Thank you for absolutely nothing.
Main event on that one, Lonnie Price III,
K.O. Victory over David Overby.
It's so good.
It's so good.
All time.
Shout to A after writing that one.
by Sanger Souser Kyev taking on two-fight UFC vet Eric Mekonico
Hamzot's boy back after the Dana White Contender series
onto UFC 319 gets two wins
Now he's got a full camp to get ready for MSG
Against the guy and Eric Mekonico that I'm not sure is on the same level as him
I think I think Sissorkeye rolls
Yeah, I don't know much about Mekonico
I'm thinking this is a Souser-R-Key-over Cody Brundage last fight
I still don't know much about Mokanco
two UFC fights and you don't know much about them
I think that says it. That's a
this feels like a showcase for our boy.
I think it says that you're a casual
that you haven't been taping
for sure. Oconico. And then
lastly, the curtain jerker
no longer machine gun
Mariscal. It is now Slava Claus
versus Mateus Camillo. Camillo was
supposed to fight a few weeks ago
on UFC 321
he now gets a
replacement fight on 322 against Slava Claus.
Was Slava Claus also booked? Why did
they add this? I'm still not clear. I have no idea.
to give us a 14th fight he was not already booked okay so that's weird i don't know why they
added this but okay i'm i'm into it shout out to him shout out to him we appreciate it
always enjoy a nice lava claus flight eight six and one feels like he needs this one and i don't think
he'll get it all right that is ufc three 22 uh do we have yeah look at that god look at that main
car jdm slam chevi versus jang brady versus morales leon edwards versus carlos preaches and derrius
versus BSD. Do we have Ovin's tweet from last week? I can pull it up right here. The statistics
around this card. Bo Nichols pale, huh? Yeah, as a pale man myself, I respected. Here it is.
Our guy Ovin. Dana tried to steal the graphic. We go with the OG. 21 fighters coming off of
wins. 14 are on win streaks. Nine are on four plus fight win streaks. Four are four and one in
their last five. Five are nine and one in their last ten. Three undefeated.
defeated fighters, six are unbeaten the UFC. The quality is truly off the charts.
322 is a banger, as the kids said. Yeah. I mean, I'm extremely excited about it. I can't wait
for it. All right, let's rip bets and parlay pals. Will the parley pals ever win again? I'm not
sure. Is it this week? I hope so. Frankie, why don't you kick us off? Then we'll go Rick. Then we'll
go me. Pizzi in with his pick. I believe it's Kyle Dawkes. Biggest favorite on the car. Thanks for
that one pizzi appreciate that yeah man this is for beau he's gonna get it down oh we're going
with bow nickel yes sir i could have sworn you wouldn't stop talking about fatima klein i thought you were
taking fatima klein yeah and then i shifted klein is the quote though she's the gloat wow you heard it here
first from frank mysterious frank fatima klein is the quote but bo we'll get it done okay all right so we're
off Fatima Klein.
All right.
Yeah.
Who's next?
Hopefully the graphics department
can keep up with that one.
Yeah, you go ahead.
Nah, listen.
Fatima Klein, the gull!
Heard it here first.
Appreciate you.
I'll take Sean Brady.
I'll back my boy.
Wait, I thought it was me.
All right, you're good.
Yeah, I'll take Sean Brady.
I'll back my boy.
Should I take Patim Klein?
Yeah, you could.
I'm going to take Esamakijev.
I'll put it all out there.
All right.
I'm going to ask him.
So no Fatima Klein, despite her being the quote, we're now going Bo-Nickel.
That gets the plus 333, which I think if we win, it puts us back in the green.
We keep doing this.
We keep losing and then being like, if we win, it gets us back in the green by taking longer and longer odds.
It's the better who has the strategy of the, if I lose a bet, I double my next bet, and then I just profit.
That's us.
It feels good, man.
It feels good.
Hopefully this is the one, because we're getting to a point we're going to need like a plus four.
400 to get us back in the green. All right, let's go through my bets real quick. I've got a few of
them, and we start with Doni Giacima. All right, I love it. We're going to start from the top and
go back. Main event, Jack Delam Adelana. This is just blind faith. This is just supporting my boy,
JDM. We've been there since the P.D. Rodriguez days. We've been there since the eternal
MMA days. We saw him come all the way to championship fruition. Now we see him retain
against one of the best fighters in the world,
Islam Makashav.
Kind of looks like Dong Zhikamo.
Dong Yakimo.
Dong Yakimo.
All right, next up.
Zhang Wei Li, my prediction,
holds firm and fast.
Beat Tatiana Suarez,
move up to 125,
beat Valentana Shepchenko,
female fighter of the year,
double champion.
Zhang Wei gets it done as a dog.
It's looking good for you.
We keep rolling along.
Sean Brady
I back my boy
I back my boy
I don't know what's going to happen
but I back my boy
he's too afraid to get on the bike
I'm not too afraid to support him
on the mic
in his pursuit of greatness
on the microphone
here we go
balls on the table
nuts
on the table
Sean Brady
we keep on
BSD I'm with you
I think this is a fair rule
matchup for him
I think he brings the fight
to be on there
and he gets them out there
I mean this one
actually Bronson
predicted first round finish. Chepe Mariscout, machine gun, as a dog, goes 2-0 against
Philly Zone, Pat Sabatini. Next up, I already told you, this is a Malcolm Wellmaker household.
We don't speak ill of Malcolm Wellmaker around these parts. Who would dare?
Georgia Southern, Augusta, Georgia Ties, Malcolm Wellmaker gets it done. A couple parlayes, I believe.
There we go. A little violence parlay for you by San Francisco.
Sucer-Kayev doesn't go the distance against Eric Mekonico.
BSD Darius doesn't go the distance.
Roman Robocop doesn't go the distance.
That pays 128.
And then lastly, A-by-Singer Souser-Kayev, Bo-Nichol, Parley, minus 155.
And those are the bets for UFC.
322.
Fucking out.
Fucking out.
Oben Elliott was on the MSG card last year.
Crazy what a year can do.
Crazy what a year can do.
All right, we go to our pound for pound this week.
And in honor of this card, Islam Makashev, Benil Daryush, Sean Brady, GM3, Bo Nickel, Hadoffo, Adolfo Vieira.
Blanchefield.
Blanchfield.
Sabatini.
Sabbatini.
Klein.
Quote?
The quote herself.
Fatima Klein.
You got grapplers on this thing, stacked top to bottom with elite level grapplers.
So in honor of that, your quick pick five, pound for pound.
best MMA grapplers
love it
Frankie what's the order
the order
is give me a second
oh okay
you want me to
you want me to think of the order
myself
I literally stopped recording
so just a second
oh oh okay
we're having an issue
with the recording
but I'll be the first one
okay
we will go to
you know Connor
and then we'll have Rick
that sounds good to me man
be the caboose
if you need to deal with something
we can
it's done it's dealt with you sure
You sure? Come on, man.
Break the fourth of all. If you need to deal with it, we can
shoot. We can shoot here, man.
Actually, can you go first? No, I'm joking.
Okay, I was that. Coming in to number five, is the
human backpack herself, McKenzie
Dern.
Huh. Coming in to number four.
HB.P.
McKenzie Dern. Is Ryan Hall.
Don't ask me to repeat it.
Okay, don't repeat it. That's a fucking good one.
Number three
is the number three
pound for pound
Oh, I love this.
Cron Gracie.
What even are you fucking saying right now?
And then my number two,
I wanted to be my number one,
but I had to make a change
because of the heart.
But number two is Dylan Danis.
Holy shit.
And then my number one
that trumped Dylan Dennis
has Ben Ascran.
Wow.
Yo, this list is kind of wild
but also like respectable.
It's not kind of wild.
It's fucking insane.
Also, the way you teed up Crone Gracie by saying,
number three in my list and number three in the pound for pound rankings.
Crone Gracie, what pound for pound rankings are those?
Can I see those?
It just threw me out because it got thrown up on the screen before I could think.
Oh, all right.
Those are some very good.
You're right back there, Frank?
You need a minute?
Yeah, man.
You need a minute?
You good?
No, you're good.
All right, you want me to go now?
Go ahead.
This is so all the fucking rant.
We don't share anyone on our list.
Number five, mine's a little bit modern.
I might get a little bit of flack here.
You call it casual, but it is what it is.
I don't know ball like that.
Number five, we just saw him grapple his way to a dominant title victory,
22 minutes of control time.
We've seen what he can do with takedowns.
We can see what he does with the chokes once he gets him down there,
breaking people's jaws.
It's Hamzat, Shima, He's down at number five.
He's down at number five because I think the book is still yet to be written.
This is one that by the time his career is over,
you could be like, yeah, he might be the best grappler.
If he's able to have a long title reign
based off the grappling, finishing people,
I think Hamza Tremayev is one of the best to ever do it.
Number four, can't make a best grappler's list
without having this guy on it,
and Frankie just did it, but it's Mr. Dubrox.
It's Charles Oliver, most submissions in UFC history,
on his 11-fight run,
where he went all the way up to the title,
beating guys like Dustin Porrier,
Justin Gaichie,
seven wins came by way of submission. Mr. Charles Oliver. Number three, he actually fights this
weekend. And he subbed the man who sits at number four. I understand it was after dropping him,
but he subbed him either way. No fears of going to the ground with him. One of the most elite
grapplers in the game, takedowns, arsenal of chokes. You got the dars, arm triangle,
Camorra's, arm bars, rear naked, it's Mr. Islamakashiv, has made a lengthy title run
is now making a run at ghost status,
and it all comes from the base of elite-level grappling.
We roll to number two.
Now second-most takedowns ever
because of one man, Marebzbollah.
He still has the most controlled time in UFC history,
and I think that speaks volumes to what he was able to do
with those takedowns.
One of the greatest fighters of all time,
George St. Pierre.
Yeah.
Second most title fight wins, by the way.
Second most takedowns, most control time ever in UFC history.
it's GSP.
And then number one, a man who never lost,
a man who you knew the game plan
when he entered the Octagon,
but you just couldn't stop it,
is Mr. Habib
Nurmogamatov.
Yeah.
And that's my list.
It's a great list.
Time for Boundvest in the background.
We share some.
There were a couple that were tough to leave off.
A hoist Gracie, a Daniel Cormier.
Oh, there's a lot.
A Damien Maya.
There's a long list of honorable mentions for this one.
Oh, yeah.
But we share some, but we also divert.
I like it.
Number five.
James Tehuno?
Not James.
Fuck, how'd you know?
Great striker.
Not an elite grappler, at least in this level, this stratosphere.
Who's to check?
No, there's tape.
We can see it.
Frankie's back, baby.
Number five, this person could be number one on some people's list.
The only reason they are not higher on this list is because they spent so much time also beating the shit out of people on the feet.
And that's one Jonathan Jones.
John Jones is one of the greatest grapplers
that this game's ever seen
and could be the best
like if he just wanted to only grapple
there is a chance that he could have been the best ever
in that realm too
he was just beating the shit out of people on the feet
beating shit out of people on the ground
it was a variety of things
that's the only reason he's not higher on my list
because when it comes to the grappling realm
he's out there taking down Daniel Cornier
he's out there thwarting some of the best
grapplers of all time
he's also striking some of the best striker.
Like he is an anomaly, and so he deserves a spot on this list,
even though he is not primarily known for grappling
in the way that some of these others are,
his grappling is as good as it absolutely gets.
Number four, Kazushi Sakaraba.
I have brought him up before, the Gracie Hunter.
His unique, like, combination of techniques,
his catch wrestling style made for some of the most exciting fights
back in the time of pride
and he was like the most, in addition to being one of the most successful grapplers,
he was one of the most fun grapplers and really like kind of changed the game for a lot of people
in a way that the traditional BJJ style had been the gold standard for so long.
He introduced something and crafted his own style that I believe has inspired many to this day.
So Sakharaba, absolute legend, very unique in this list because I don't, I think,
think these other guys are a little more traditional but he he was one of one number three you had
them on your list i have him on mine george st pierre uh it would not be fair to leave george
st pierre off this list not my favorite grappler to watch spent a lot of time like in top
control wasn't necessarily like the the ice cold finisher type guy but the stats freak speak for
themselves when george st pierre controlled a fight he absolutely dominated it he controlled a fight
from start to finish.
It was not fun
being underneath
George St. Pierre.
When you can
completely neutralize
a guy as good as
BJ Penn
and just make him
look like he's never
been on the mat
in his entire life,
that is a level of grappling
that deserves respect.
George J.M. Pierre,
elite, elite, elite grappler.
Number two,
you had him a little lower.
I have him a little higher.
That's Charles Olivera.
Apex Predator.
Apex Predator.
The record for submissions
in the UFC,
but the variety, the ability for him to play top game, play bottom game,
adapt the Jiu-Jitsu game to the MMA game,
he's a marvel.
The fact that he's still doing it in this way at this age,
like he's incredible to me.
I have a lot of reverence and respect for Charles Olivera,
one of the best grapplers we've seen in MMA,
especially when it comes to the finishing, right?
It's one thing to be a positional control grappler,
But Charles Olavera ends fights.
Charles Olavera, when he gets it to the mat,
is somebody that can finish it,
and he deserves a ton of respect.
I love the grappling game of Charles O'Olavera.
I think I know where you're going to go with one, which means...
Number one.
I'll be even a rock made of it of.
Wow.
All three of our lists, the only Gracie that made it was Crone.
Yeah, in MMA, it wouldn't be...
The only one that, in my opinion, could have actually made it,
would have been Hickson.
If you say, like, Hickson, because of what he did in the era before MMA became MMA, truly became MMA, you'd probably point to him.
Hoist certainly for his tournament wins.
But if you put Hoyce in an MMA match with Charles O'Levara, like, it is not going to go very well for him.
Again, eras, times, whatever it is.
Opinions.
It's all up to you.
The Gracie family, the lineage, B.J.J. belongs there.
Habib, I mean, the combination of the sombo, the wrestling, the BJJ, the dominance, the control, as you said, everybody knows what he wants to do when he steps into that cage, and you just do not have a chance in hell to stop him.
He is the best grappler I've ever seen.
Shout out, that was a fun little list to make, you know, going over the best grapplers.
Maybe one day we do strikers, but the amount of high-level grapplers on this card, we felt like it was worth it.
Also, we've sort of exhausted the New York ones.
We did Burroughs and got a lot of hate for it, you know.
Okay, let me...
Next time is New York Bridges.
I'm down.
There's a lot of good bridges here.
21?
Malcolm Bridges.
Now we're talking.
You're going to say something?
Yeah, let me...
What do you think?
Honorable mentions.
Honorable mentions.
Damien Maya, you mentioned.
Like, Damien Maya, to me, it became...
I was going to pick Damien Meyer or Charles Olivera.
I went Charles.
Fabricio Verduem.
Stubrecy of Herdum is an absolute savage.
Like, on the mat.
submission wins over some of the best guys
he deserves a nod here
Big Nog who Fabricio has a win over
Fador in his prime
he was a absolute
heavyweight monster
DC
DC
BJ Penn
BJ Penn
BJ Penn
when it hit the mat was nasty
it's why I rate George so highly
because he is able to deal with that
Demetrius Johnson
Marab
I think Mara deserves a shout
a nod the man with the most takedowns
in UFC history
and I also had Hamza up
but you had them on your list.
A lot of good grapplers throughout the history, man.
Respect to all of them.
The Gracies, shout out.
All right, that is the pound for pound list.
Best MMA grapplers.
Frankie, we got any voicemails, brother?
Voice mess.
It wouldn't be a boys in the back without him.
Sure wouldn't.
Ahoy, hoi, hoi.
What's up, boys?
Hyden, North Carolina.
Shout out.
What's up?
Shout out to North Carolina.
Why other boxers aren't drawing a line up to fight,
Jake Paul. Same reason in Ghana is not trying to. He knows what he's worth. He's trying to
fight champions and he's doing the honorable thing. He's not, you know, just like fighting
anybody. He made that clear when he left the U.S. He didn't want to just fight anybody. All that
he'd be doing if he fought Jake Paul would be being what everybody like, you know, like
says he is that he only fights for money. No, bro fights for honor and for like glory. Um, you
know, but just fighting Jake Paul, a guy who's basically half his size. I mean, not really. But
kind of. It doesn't do anything for him. It doesn't look good. You know,
Canello's never really been interested either. I mean, I think Canello's
interested in the money, but he's not, like, seriously interested either, and that's
why he fights Crawford instead. He fights real guys. You know, the type of people that are
trying to accept Jake Paul fights are the gervantes of the world, the let's be real,
not cool or not good people. And in the world of like shit where it just encourages you
to sell out, and Gondon's not doing that. And, you know, I applaud him for that. I still
thing, you know, like, I agree with, like, what DeBella's take that he had earlier on, like,
Jayfault.
Like, he's not bad for boxing, like, at all know.
But, you know, if you want to, you know, fight to, like, show your skill and show, like,
your accomplishments and do it for, like, honor, you're not going to do that.
You're not going to take the fight.
Love the show, guys.
John Joseph isn't the goat.
Only two of his opponents went positive after fighting him in the title fight, and they were
at Belfort, who went on Tier K after, and Rampage, who went to Belltor to
across can.
Anderson Silva has seven people
go positive after fighting him.
Yeah, John Jones, not the go.
All right.
Go conversation, be damned.
That's just whoever you think it is
out of like the big four or five.
The Francis and Ghana thing,
I actually kind of disagree.
I don't think it's about honor.
I think it's about him thinking
he's literally just better than Jake Paul
and he would be lowering
himself down to Jake Paul's level. I think everyone has a price tag. I think if they came
correct enough with the big enough price tag, he would fight him. I think it was the same thing
with Anthony Joshua. I think when it first got offered out, Jake Paul's been banging this
drum for a while. The money wasn't big enough. Now they're desperate to find a fight. The money
probably greatly improved for Anthony Joshua to the point where he might be willing to accept
it if it does come to fruition. I don't, I don't think it's an honor.
thing. It was Hanan Ferreira and
honor thing? Yeah. I don't
know if I agree with that.
I do understand.
If Francis
Inganu is saying, like, I will just
not box Jake Paul, I can respect that.
Yeah. That's fine. I'm okay with you taking
that stance.
Hey, yo, boys in the back.
Is Sean Brady calling in.
Let's go. We got a great call.
A fight week.
Really perturbed this morning, fellas.
Yeah, let's hear, Sean.
I was listening, catching up on the
show, little boys in the back
action. Appreciate you, bro. And
the Simpsons,
guys,
have you seen it? Have you
freaking seen The Simpsons?
Fox.
Groundkeeper
Willie comic book store
guy? Dude. What
the fuck is going on? Tell us, Sean.
This show has been on for generations. It's been on
for lifetime. Who knew the Sean Brady
was such a Simpsians guy?
Who is Smithers? Dude, I can't even concentrate on Morales right now, let alone the bike race.
I don't know what you guys expect for me. I don't know how you expect me to keep listening with this lack of Simpson's knowledge.
So if you guys could maybe bone up, I mean, we got a sequel movie coming out.
Are you guys going to be like, which one's Homer?
Which one's Homer?
Which one's Homer?
John is Homer.
DeWan, you guys brush up before you go back on air, before you fire up that on-air light.
Frank, before I go, dude.
Cometre 64, my man.
I love it.
I love it.
Sid ship.
I don't, I'm perplex.
It's like you, you know, you talk snack and my sidekick here and, uh, whatever.
All right.
Uh, once again, guys, watch the Simpsons, Fox, Matt Growning.
Grading
Brooks
Etcetera
Morales
Whenever that's happening
I forget
It's going down
It's going down
And Connor
Yeah man
We know you fucked over
Your landlord
And Sean
I'll see you on the
Simpsons BBS
On my old Pomerador 64
Oh shout out
That was a fucking great call
Thanks Sean
Best of luck this Saturday man
I really appreciate you
Him wanting to say
Which one's whom
Or just so he could
Get the Philly accent out again.
Homer.
That's great.
That was great.
Appreciate you, Sean.
Thank you, Sean.
Shout out.
Shout out.
Jacob calling him from Denver, Colorado.
Oh, what's up, Jake?
All right.
So, I got a hypothetical question for everyone on the team who wants to answer.
Okay.
We'll all answer.
Who me?
It's, you know, you and your significant other, right?
You haven't been on a date in like six months, right?
You know, you've just been struggling with the kids, you know, work's been a lot, right?
But, like, you have finally have the chance to go.
Wow.
Yeah.
But your babysitter cancels last minute, okay?
So you go on, you know, like whatever babysitting app you use, and then you look.
And there are three options available, okay?
I don't want to know who you're taking.
Okay.
One, we got pre-spiritual awakening, Connor McGregor.
Okay.
Two.
UFC Hall of Fame night, John Jones.
Three.
famously went to jail that night.
Joshua, Fabia.
Hey.
Let me know for you all second.
Thanks.
I'll probably just skip.
skipping the date night. I'm probably just skipping that. We'll just hold out. I'm all right.
We made six months, we can make it seven. If I have to choose, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let Connor, I'm gonna let Connor cut.
Free spiritual awakening? Yeah, you know, look, kids will have a good time. He's already dead.
Frank, who you take it, man? That's dark. I would take Connor. Okay. I'm gonna take Connor. Let's catch.
What up, boy. Is it Steve from Denver?
What up, Steve?
Listen, Rick, I can't take it anymore, buddy.
Uh-oh.
This man just said, Gable Steven had better odds of beating Zero Gunn and Tom Aspinall than Alex Pereira.
Put this man down now.
Wow.
I don't know if I even said that.
I don't think that's even amazing.
I think you said he'd be a favorite against him.
He'd be a favorite against those guys, yeah.
Well, I mean, obviously, Alex Perey is not going to have great odds at heavyweight.
The question was, who's going to be the favorite for Gable?
And I think you said anything after Tom he'll be the favorite.
Yeah.
I think mine was closer to like a Spivak or something like that.
Yeah, no.
Man.
You want to talk about MMMA, like we did a list of MMA grapplers.
When that guy hits MMA, when he hits the UFC level, that guy's going to be up there.
We're going to see. We're going to see.
Yo, what's up, boys? It's Mani from Philly.
Call on, and this one goes out to Rick.
As we kind of approach the end of the pay-per-view era,
can we just take a moment and reflect on what that used to mean back in the day?
It meant so much more than what it feels like now.
You know, back then when GSP was fighting DJ Penn,
when Brock was fighting, when all those silver flags,
fights were happening. It felt like
something special. Can we pass it along to the
new fighters?
It was special.
This weekend
feels like that. So
I leave you with that.
I would tune in this weekend if you've
lapsed as a fan.
This one feels pretty good.
Islam Machia. What do we say?
Number two versus number eight pound for pound
and number one versus number two on the women's side.
Not bad. This is pretty damn good.
Not bad.
What's going on, boys?
It's Peter.
What's up, Pete?
I'm calling here from southeast Missouri, originally from the 516.
Shout out Long Island.
Let's go.
Oh, fuck.
Let's fuck go, Island.
Hold on.
I'll call back.
This happens more often than you would think.
This made it through.
Thanks, Pete.
Appreciate that.
I'm checking the voicemails there.
Three or four from the single number.
No, I appreciate that, Pete.
Good job, Pete.
You tried?
Uh, yeah.
What's going on, boys?
It's your boy, Peter, here.
Just the same one.
Originally from the 516, shout out Long Island.
I'm a fucking Go Islanders.
Oh, no, here we go.
Speaking of Long Island.
Yeah, speaking of.
And in honor of two fighters fighting from the...
Incredible.
USC Long Island that happened back a few years ago.
Ricky Simone, Matt Chanel.
Connor, I got a quick story about Ricky Simone.
Okay.
It was about the fight before Ricky Simone.
Smone versus Jack Shore, U.S.D. Long Island.
Me and my boy are sitting down in the Nassau Calcium and...
UBS Arena.
Fuck.
Damn, bro.
He's just hung up?
I think so.
All right.
Take three out.
It's your boy, Peter.
Yeah, what's up, Pete?
Southeast Missouri.
Shout out to the Islanders.
Five one.
Yeah.
Shout out Long Island.
Yeah.
Let's go Islanders, baby.
Let's go Islanders, yeah, man.
In honor of the UFC
Las Vegas happening this weekend.
Oh, this is last week.
Matt Schnell.
I like to go back to a story from the UFC Long Island
years ago when Ricky Simone and Jack Shore
was the next fight that was about to happen.
Me and my boy, get up.
We say, you know what?
Let's go see if we can find GC around here.
We know he's somewhere.
So we get up, we walk around, we walk about two sections, you know, around the concession stands.
And, you know, of course, we see, G.C., we see him walking.
He's about to go up the steps, go sit in his seat.
And I'm just like, hey, G.C., what's going on?
He turns around, big smile.
He's so happy to see us.
He, you know, appreciate the love.
Appreciate the love.
What's up, bro.
Yeah, it's good a bit.
And then we go, hey, Jack Shore time, baby.
Yes, sir.
Had a custom one-of-one Jack Shore shirt on.
go on our way. Me and my boy
go over to the bar. We order
a drink. Jack Shore, Ricky
Simone kicks off right there.
You look at the bartender and we say
hey, that
white guy, Jack Shore right there,
the one that I take the white shorts he
had, we got big money on him.
Big money. And then he's going to
roll. He sat there. No one else at the bar.
Just me, my boy, and the bartender.
We just sat there and watched
Jack Shore get fucking whacked
by Ricky Simone. And
And, yeah, wound up losing big money.
But you know what?
We got the CGC, and we got to all lose together in spirit.
So, fuck yeah.
All right.
Peace out, boys.
Love you all.
Keep doing what you doing.
Love you, too, bro.
We know, Pete.
We know, Pete.
516 Islanders, Southwest Missouri, fucking out.
Yeah, that is a fact.
I had a custom one-of-one Jack Shore shirt.
I wonder if when they were at the bar,
they could hear when Ricky Simone literally picked up Jack Shore.
and body slammed him and it echoed throughout the arena.
That's when I looked at my boys.
I was like, yeah, guys, we're probably fucked on this bat.
When he sunned him, just picked him all the way up and just,
and it just, like, they have the microphones under the octagon,
and it just reverberated through the whole arena.
I was like, yeah, guys, I think we're probably cooked on this one.
I wonder if the bartender started, like, roasting him.
I was like, I feel bad for those dudes.
I just dapped up.
And then I had to wear the Jack Shore.
at the rest of the day. It's like, well, that's the guy that got
brutally fucked up. I'm pretty sure he got
finished in like the second round. Like he got
love Jack Shore, love him.
But yeah,
he got walloped. He got
thumped by Petey though. Yeah, arm-triangled
in the second round.
It was tough.
It was tough.
What's up, boys? This is Steve from
Denver. Steve A.
Have a question. It's more of a response to Jacob
from Denver who called in last week.
Yeah. Stop texting my wife, you
piece of shit
you're sad because
you've got a broken heart
when when
well I'm dealing with a broken home motherfucker
my wife and I put in so much
fucking work since then
this is the guy that asked
about break of advice
you gotta fuck it all up by texting
her while we're at P.F. Chang's for her birthday
I'm gonna say this one last
time day the fuck away
from my wife
also Frank please accept my switch to
friend of quest
yo if that was one take
that was unbelievable I think it
was it? Can we confirm that? That was incredible
you know if there's multiple takes we air them all
wow that was crazy
that was what a turn of event shout out
I do hope that other guy is just
feeling better
taken from Denver hope you're all right man
but you stop texting
don't text his wife bro come on
Steve
not the guy to mess with
it's your boy Bodkins baby
boys I'm here to ask the very
hard question today
no not was Randy Brown out
no not who's winning the title fight
but
But when do you put up the Christmas tree?
Great question, Bodkins.
That needs to be answered.
Fuck yeah.
Y'all have a great Thursday.
Have a blessed weekend.
Hopefully all the bets hit.
Shout out to everybody.
Bodkins out, baby.
Shout out to you, Bodkins.
The energy on the call is, uh, it's contagious.
I love it.
It gets me hyped up.
The question is, when do you put up the Christmas tree?
I am putting up all my, I'm shifting from fall Halloween decorations.
The Halloween have kind of gone away, but, you know, I still got fall decorations up.
shifting to the Christmas next weekend.
So we skip over Thanksgiving.
There's not like a decorating for that.
It's like fall, but like I would like to have the Christmas up as soon as Thanksgiving's over.
And so next weekend is the weekend I'm going to do it.
I could wait till, I could wait till like the weekend after Thanksgiving, but Thanksgiving's kind of late this year.
It's only the 27th, something like that.
Two weeks from today, so the 27th, you know, you got to have the decoration.
up for as long as you can. And then I'm a tree down, like, first week of January.
How big of a tree? It's small. It's six feet. I'm in an apartment. What do you want me to do for him?
Is it a little 12-footer or a real 12-footer out here and put it in my house?
Limitation from the roommate? It's like, eh, can only be this tall. No. Is this a carryover
from family? Like, when you were at the house? Now, my family is strictly December 1st.
Oh, interesting. Yeah. It's kind of funny mentioning this. You know, I was actually
you with my family. They were visiting up here last
weekend, and we were watching a football game or whatever, and a Christmas
commercial came on, and they're all like, ah, it's too early for the Christmas
commercial. Okay, so you're bucking the family's, like, stances on this, really.
My strong feeling on that is, like, get over it. It happens every
single year. There's no point in talking about it. It's going to happen
every year. It's been happening every year since our childhood. This isn't
something that happened last year.
Everyone. Thank you. Darren, thank you. Darren, thank you. This hasn't been
happening this doesn't just start happening in 2020 they've been doing it every year it's it's a commercial
business at this point christmas they're going to start on november first just accept it it's just
going to happen it's also like up here in new york everyone's always like man it's a pretty mild
october i've lived here for like seven years now and it never gets cold in october it's always
november it's like november is when it really starts it in the cold i'm just saying okay
i'm done right i don't have as specific a timing yeah when the kids start bothering me
Yeah, and then I do it.
Tree adds a nice coziness.
No, not yet.
They actually haven't yet, because they're still eating Halloween candy.
They don't give a shit.
They're whispering to each other.
It's not upset Daddy.
What do you say, Frankie?
Say it again?
What do you say, Frankie?
To be honest.
When you put your tree up?
I don't.
That's my wife's job.
Oh, well.
Not like I've assigned her that job.
It's important to her.
She wants to do it.
Great.
And then for the rest of the season, I just get to hear about how the cat's chewing on it.
Andy, Dan, you guys got any specific days?
Black Friday.
Black Friday's a great day.
Yeah, you know, we're tired for meeting the day before.
We're not doing anything, but the Christmas tree up.
Throw some football on in the background, tree goes up.
Decorations.
I like that.
I like that out of you, Dan.
I like that at you.
You're earlier than everybody else.
This year specifically, just because, you know, I got plans.
Okay, I got plans.
So we'll knock out the tree on the week before.
I'll have a little UFC guitar to get in the season in the background, and I'll be hanging
up decorations.
Got it.
Guitar?
Shout out Bakken.
Shout out to Bakken.
It's great question.
Hey, the boys are back.
This is Bree calling from Massachusetts.
Truthfully, I'll admit.
I'm only a casual MMA fan, but I will give it to you that your show is super entertaining.
Wow.
Bree.
Especially love the pound-for-pound ranking.
Wow.
Brino's ball.
I'm actually calling in today for my husband.
Shane. He is quite possibly your biggest fan, and I'm not sure he's ever missed an episode
of the show. He's also substantially better giving gifts than I am. So, hoping you guys can
help me out today by giving him both a happy birthday and a happy anniversary shout-out and make me
look like the best life in the world. Thank you guys.
That's all we needed to do? I thought we were going to have to give like advice on gifts.
Shane, baby! Thanks for always watching, man. We appreciate you. Thank you to your wife for
calling in happy birthday brother i hope it's a great one happy anniversary as well man what a what a day
what a celebration what a crummy uh no i'm just kidding i was going to say what a crummy gift you get
two schmucks here telling you happy birthday uh hope it's a great day shan thanks for always watching
man thanks for the support chain we love you happy birthday happy anniversary and uh make it count
do play this after like this is this is going to be the the the shit ending um to the to the night
hope you got you and your wife this is the next morning you're hungover at breakfast you're having a cup of
coffee. She's like, oh yeah, by the way, check it out.
You know, got you a shout out. I did.
Shout out to Shane. Shout out to Brie. Happy B-Day.
Thank you. Thank you for doing that.
Frankie, quick on the draw there.
Yeah. Just like that. That was nice.
Happy birthday, Shane. Oh. Happy anniversary, Shane and Brie.
Appreciate you.
All right, Frank. Cut the music, man. Let's move on.
Just kidding. Happy B Day, Shane.
No, but seriously, cut it, man.
Hey, what's up, guys? It's Stinky Link here from
Pittsburgh.
What's up?
Stink, you think.
Of course, I've heard Ariel's stories, you know, a few hundred times and one that always
comes to mind is the nudist community in Pittsburgh.
And lo and behold, my girlfriend was just kind of scrolling on Facebook this past weekend,
and she sees just a random Facebook post and it goes, nude bowling, Pittsburgh.
And I'm like, what the hell?
And it happens to be the same community, of course, that like Ariel did his documentary
on.
Oh, yeah, the volleyball?
Bad face.
Anyways, so, of course, I'm like, let's go.
Wow.
I'm not much the nudist.
My girlfriend isn't really either, but, you know, for about the best three, four, five years, Ariel has been talking.
Pause it there for a second, Frank.
That he kind of sold me on it.
Frank, pause.
Unfortunately, the girlfriend was not.
What does, we're not much of a new, I'm not much of a nudist.
Can you be like a half, like halfway out?
I think you can in the sense that, like, there's no chance I'm going in and bowling with my balls out.
that ain't happening.
So, like, the fact that he's willing to do it makes him so much of a nude.
I'm nude some of the time, but I'm not always nude.
No, no, no.
I think it's, I'm open to nudity, but I'm not a regular tender of nudist colonies.
All right, let's keep it going.
I go, but I just wanted to call and ask you guys if you would go.
No.
Not like as a group or anything.
Of course, that might be a little weird, but just individually.
Like, would you go in my shoes, you know, given that you've heard so many good things about this community?
community and whatnot. I was genuinely down to try it. Ariel kind of sold me on it, but
she wasn't really down and, you know, it might have been a little awkward.
Anyway, I thought I'd call in, hope this wasn't too long. Bye.
Wasn't too long? One thing I will say about Hawani selling it on you,
how one he was wearing jeans and a plaid shirt while he was there, so he was not nude.
He was just inspired by the freedom that those people carried. Secondly, um,
I'm not going to lie.
You've got to really be just like a free spirit.
Yeah.
I wouldn't love walking around butt-ass naked,
and on top of that, my girlfriend is also butt-ass-naked.
Right, right, right.
I don't love the idea of that.
So to answer all this, I'm just going to hit the Brunswick.
I'm just going to hit the Brunswick lanes and just do some clothed bowling.
Yeah, my thing is not, I'm not like anti it.
I'm not like, I don't want anybody to see me
or anybody to, but
I don't think it would enhance anything for me.
No, it definitely wouldn't.
It wouldn't add anything to me
that I couldn't be like,
I'm just gonna do with the cloth version.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't think it would be freeing.
I'm not like, I don't feel like
if I were to do that, it would be any freer for me.
I would just be like, all right, I'm gonna go down the block
and go to the bowling hour.
Yeah, yeah.
I think I would just laugh too much
if I was there.
It would be weird the first time, right?
And imagine if you run into someone you know.
Oh, Jim, from accounting.
What's up, man?
How's it hanging?
Oh.
Jim.
Long time, no scene.
Somebody's getting cracked.
Jim.
Jim.
I will never take your parking spot again.
It's the gift of the kid where he's like, he's like, hey.
The ginger kid?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
What are you doing here?
Jim!
Yeah, I'm out.
I'm out on that.
You're running to your parents?
What's that?
Sorry, what's up?
What's up?
Who's this guy?
Play that again?
Yeah, all right.
Saskatchewan, show up to Rough riders.
We're going to lose to Ariel, Montreal Al-A-West.
Holy shit.
What a voice.
What a voice.
Episode there and listen to Carter, talk about the Zip.
Have Zips.
Spoke me down as a fellow
33-year-old, that shit had me rolling, boys.
Especially as Connors dresses, Gandalf,
hitting the frickin' shirlock from time to time.
Oh, what a good time that was.
Anyways, keep it up.
I listen every week while I'm driving the Shremys.
You're the fucking mad.
That's all.
Okay.
Legend.
Go fucking Rough Riders.
I hope they went on Saturday just for you.
What did he say that I was talking about?
The Zip on the Zip.
Something about Zips?
He mentioned the pipe, so I don't know what I was talking about,
but the fact that he calls it a Sherlock is hilarious,
because back in the day in high school, me and my boys had a pipe like that,
and we called it the Gandalf.
Oh, there you go.
That's a shout-out.
What did he say?
Did you smoke tobacco out of that pipe?
Yes.
So weird.
Nice buzz, you know.
Yo.
Colin from Cleveland, Ohio.
Long time, first time.
You know the deal.
That's questions for Rick.
I'm a lifelong challenge fan, seen every season, I know it all.
Quick question, if you had to say who, with no formal MMA training or no boxing training
or anything like that so far, would be the best challenger to make that crossover to MMA.
I have one.
I think Corey Wharton would be pretty good, very athletic, young, strong, powerful guy.
And then for my two throwbacks, I'm going Abram, Boisey.
and you know you know
and Derek Kaczynski back in the day.
Thanks, boys. Love you.
Bye.
Love you too, man.
Very, very strong selections there.
A lot of respect.
You didn't just pull like the easy ones.
You really thought about this.
I respected a great deal.
Abram would be an absolute animal.
The answer is easy for me.
By the way, I actually think
Corey Wharton boxed
another challenge person
on like one of these like influencer fight nights
by the way.
So I actually think he did fight.
The answer is Dorel. Dorel trains boxing. Dorel would beat the brakes off quite a few.
And then the answer after that, it's got to be C.T.
Like C.T. is a caged beast.
Got to C.T.
If you ever stepped in the-in-the-caged?
My minimal challenge knowledge.
If you ever stepped in the cage at somebody, it would be a nightmare for them.
Frank, yes.
Do you answer your question on Slack?
How do you old big B here? First time, long time.
What up, B?
This week is.
Is Dakota Dichiva, the next WMMA star?
I thought it would be stamp fair tech, multiple belts, in multiple different sports.
She doesn't seem to have pool outside of Asia.
Thanks for the content, fellows.
I intend to thousands of others enjoy it week in and week out.
Shout out the goat, Frankie.
Don't care what you're done with your mama.
John Jones can say the mid-vehicular battery on a pregnant woman and be the goat.
My man can also have a drunken accident.
Shout out the lone star state.
Buck Queens, Big Beach.
Hey, what the fuck?
Wow.
He speaks for all of us.
Yeah, all of them.
Probably.
Like, is there another name
that's like a prospect?
I don't feel like.
I'm not going to lie.
He totally lost me after the John Jones.
He said basically his Dakota ditch
of the next big women's star.
I think so.
I think so.
I think so.
The whole John Jones vehicular
manslaughter.
Frank kissing his mom's ass.
Beating a pregnant lady or whatever.
Hitting a pregnant lady with his car.
Hit you run a pregnant lady,
kissing your mom's ass.
Listen, we all make mistakes.
John Jones
got charged with
vehicular
whatever
and Frank kiss his mom's ass
What a boy
What's up?
Brett from Nebraska
Nailed it
Nailed it
Shout out Colin Kline
Colin Kline
And today
I actually want to tell you real quick
About the time
that my high school football coach
Decided to bring in
one Mark Montoya
Toeer
to lead practices once a week
All right.
Where's this one?
Okay, so over summer, we would go Monday through Friday, 7 to 11.
Ultimately.
Typical, you know, high school football stuff, hour of lifting, hour of speed, training,
and then two hours on the field.
Which is crazy, actually, looking back,
I did all that work, knowing we weren't going to win very many games.
But we do all this.
And we had, I don't remember what he called it, like, Fun Fridays or something.
And his version of Fun Friday was to bring.
in Mark Montoya, who for eight weeks over the summer,
ultimately, came in on Friday at 7 a.m.
Yeah.
And walked us through, like, martial arts stuff.
Very important to know.
He did not, in any way, dumbed out anything that he said
or addressed for his audience.
And so we had, like, a world-class UFC coach,
M of A coach, sorry, yelling at a bunch of 15 to 18-year-olds who could not possibly care any less about what he was saying.
And like running it like military style, like we were supposed to clap at certain times.
And our boy just did not care at all.
I was trying to tell him, like, hey, guys, this would have been actually pre-Connor Habib.
So it was like the year before that.
by 2017.
Okay.
So none of my buddies were into
MMA except for me
and a couple of the wrestlers.
And we were trying to tell him,
hey, guys, like, this is a huge opportunity.
And he would just, like,
talk to him.
And they'd be like, damn, that's crazy.
And then ignore him.
But even funnier,
the...
Mark Vintai just yelling at kids.
Ultimately.
He came with him.
Was a young Ian Hinesh,
who, I was, like,
terms of parole
or community service
of some time.
Why was your fucking high school football team bringing these guys in?
I don't know that for sure, but he very clearly did not want to be there or care.
I wouldn't either.
It has some wildly inappropriate conversation with some of the 15 and 16-year-olds
about his activities that landed him in, well, you're supposed to hit the federal prison.
You know, it's fine.
He's queuing you up for crying me.
fucking prison.
Instead of that being inspirational,
he kind of made it sound
like it was really sick.
Like he was like, yeah,
like all these girls
and did all these drugs.
That was a bad decision.
I don't know, man, it sounds pretty...
Oh, is that...
Did it get cut off?
It was long enough anyway.
It was long enough.
Thanks for that one, Brett from Nebraska.
Glad to have you back, brother. Glad you're feeling better.
Ian Heinish talking to kids.
Mark Montoya is screaming like it's
this serious thing and it's a bunch of 15-year-olds is all so crazy.
Oh, incredible.
Who knew, Brett was a...
What's up, boys?
Conner from Canada.
What's up, Connor?
A couple questions.
Actually, non-MMA related, but it's related to your interest because we share interest.
Sick.
First, Connor.
Okay.
Avatar, the Last Airbender.
Shout out.
There was a season, well, there's three seasons, but I feel like there was like an in-between
second and third season where they went to like a Western Air Temple on the side of the
mountain.
watched the show recently and I don't remember seeing that but I vividly remember
watching those scenes as a kid I don't know what it is but I love that show shout
out shout out again if you could have one of those towers what type of bending
would you be your fire air or water personally earth bender I think pretty
sweet block most of those other elements after most good defensive type element
maybe now Eric I'm getting into magic I got I've got I've got I've
played a lot of standard decks like i played the lord of the rings one assassin street one i played a
lot of like the entry level deck i'm starting to get in the commander and i need help i don't know
where to start fuck i can't i'm not going to start by just building my own deck right off the
back i'm probably going to get one of those preset pre-con i think they're called commander
set directly from magic now should i do that any recommendations on which ones i should get
Should I get a random deck off eBay to get, like, started, or, you know, where should I land on getting myself and the commander?
Because I got some friends that want me to start getting involved because they know that I play standard.
But, I don't know.
Commanders are a whole different ballgame.
I know how to play.
They just don't know where to start.
So if you could point me in the right direction, that would be pretty cool.
Frank, add me on cool math games.
Anyways, shout out to cool math games.
I haven't heard cool math games.
in a minute they definitely go to the air temple because I think that's where
Ang like finds out about his lineage and everything like that it's very
critical to the storyline probably firebender probably firebender probably
getting a sick tattoo on my head to to equal out the baldness give me a little
bit of that you know firebender aura but yeah just like ruthless aggression as as
they say and over in WWE we don't have to go too far down this but what is
air bending and what is fire like what are they literally what it would it
describes like you have control of that element of the world so like earth can like lift up
the earth and like push giant rocks fire you literally create fire with your hands water water
air and he's the last air bend you are like a summoner of these things correct you can happen into
the manipool from the land yeah yeah got it yeah i think i'm going fire with like a like a crazy tat
are they all like tatted with like fire stuff basically uh some of them are but there's there's this
one uh who god it's been a year since i've watched the show
His main antagonist
tattoo across his face.
That's like who is coming after hang.
Got it.
He's like royalty, prince.
I don't know why I can't think of his name right now.
Child to the episode of the last evening.
James Tohuna?
Actually, it might be James Tohuna.
As far as Magic goes and Commander goes,
hop on arena and just play around with some decks digitally
and then buy those associated cards once you kind of find your way with those decks.
I love digital.
I used to play paper magic.
I know Frank still does some tabletop games and card games and things like that.
I don't do them anymore, but I would mess around with the digital, so there's no stakes.
Then you figure out what cards you want to buy, and then I'd go buy those.
To chime in, I would also consider just going to a Friday night magic and then doing like a draft, a blind draft.
Blind draft, blind rank?
Blind rank the ways to start into magic.
It's also a Zucco.
Very quickly.
I'm obsessed with who's to check.
Top three
clip ever.
I'm out.
Who's to check?
Is it top three?
I mean, it's the flavor of the...
No, you play the fucking drop after I say that.
Come on, Frank. I actually agree with you.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is his production style.
It's just, fuck you. Why did you miss it?
Piece of shit. Fuck you.
I mean, you do that.
I will say, I agree with Frankie. I think it's the flavor of the month.
There's some that last the...
the eternity of time.
I think Who's to Check has potential to do that?
But, I mean, there's a lot that...
Who's to check?
There's a lot that cycle through that kind of fall off.
You know, they fall off.
Who's the check if they fall off?
Well, first time hearing that answer machine you guys got was pretty hilarious.
But anyway, Quentin from SoCal, shout out.
I can't even remember what the answer was going to get into running.
I need a good pair of running shoes.
and this one's for prank
you got black off seven releasing a night
you playing it or are you going to be playing fission simulator
running shoes easy question
otty zero evo sls they look sick they're comfortable
just knocked out of 10k in like 44 minutes with them
colorways are sick shout out
no call of duty for me
actually jamming with luminous arise
just came out a little bit earlier this week
I was surprised because
I don't know if you guys
have played it
the puzzle games
that started
on like the PSP
maybe use the PS2
anyway
they did a really good job
like it's a mental
trip
so you should check it out
that's all the voicemails
that's it
thank you very much
to everyone that called in
a couple great ones
in there
a couple great ones
it almost looks like
the yellow cloud
back there
it looks like there's like
a toxic cloud
yeah toxic radiation spill
we got any super chats
Frankie
damn right we do
damn right
All right, the first one is on-air Jordan.
Just confirming, I'm not a ghost.
What's up, on-air Jordan?
Is that actually him?
Yeah.
Or is it then?
Or is it the ghost of him?
Can we put the on-air Jordan one back up real quick?
So the other day, you notice next to on-air Jordan, he has a little symbol that's a wrench, right?
That means he's a moderator.
Okay.
The other day when Ariel was like, oh, and there's a lodge.
John Dream with a number two and a crown.
What's the number two for?
My man doesn't even know what a wrench looks like.
Oh, he thought that was a two?
Yeah, yeah, it took me a moment to realize.
That feels close to impossible.
How could that possibly be a two?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Who could ever see that as a two with a crown?
Uh-huh.
No, yeah, there's actually a number two.
I'm looking at it right now.
That's a crescent ring.
That's a, that's a number two, like, commoner.
He has the most experienced points.
Yeah.
Obstruck says, boys, UFC 322, huge fight card.
Frank, there's a number one with a crown.
The other one had a two.
who's to check
huge fight card yet no buzz
why this came at the beginning of the show
yeah I was going to say I'm starting to feel the buzz
bro me too I think we just spent a long time talking about
why there should be buzz
and if you don't feel the buzz
it's the buzz comes down to the personalities
that are fighting man you have all-time fighters
that don't have that much personality
they don't talk shit they're respectful warriors
that's pretty much it
I think the
concept of the buzz building
around cards
is not going to happen in the
same way anymore. There's just too much stuff vying for attention. The schedule is too
aggressive. The idea of like, I've been, I've been waiting for this one for so long and it's
creeping up and now it's here. I just don't think it happens like that anymore. People's
consumption cycles don't go that way. There also just has to be genuine beef. J.D.M. and Islam
are not going to beef. Valentina and Jong are not going to beef. Sean Brady and Michael Morales
are not going to beef. The list goes on and on. Leon gives next to nothing. Probably just doing
the phone background. That's not really like crazy heat about nickel and Adolfo Villar.
There just is no, like, real heat with any of these guys,
and none of them are, like, superstar, superstar level
to, like, carry the card.
Islam is huge.
It sounds the biggest name, by the way.
But, like, Islam will go massive if he fights, like, an Ilya.
Thank you guys for all the content.
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And then finally watched Weapons.
Absolutely terrible.
Oh, what?
Bad take.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
I haven't seen weapons.
I thought he meant prisoners.
I can't speak
I haven't seen
Prisoners
What a weird
Remember that guy
Asked me horror movies
But it was all
Half of them were not horror
All psychological thrillers
Weapons is fantastic
That's bad taste by you
Got out
Really bad taste
Yep
Sam Alvi versus
Yeah
Despine
Yeah Robillist dispain
For the karate
Combat heavyweight title
Can't wait
Slito
Shut up
Check up this poster
there it is
Godzilla versus Kong
Wait what the fuck
Do they actually have Godzilla versus Kong in the back
It's an AI
It's definitely AI
Sam Alvey
Representing Godzilla
Put that back for one second
Is Spain representing
Kong
That's legit like Godzilla and Kong
Like they're not getting sued to shit for this
What version of Godzilla
Who does Robloose to Spain look like
With the blonde hair
Phil Hawes?
Phil Hawes is the one who used to do the...
All right.
That's enough of that.
Next.
G.C. was a little too
hype to see Jim.
Islamai sub round five at the buzzer.
Yeah.
Jim!
What are you doing here, man?
I didn't know you came to nudist colonies.
True.
You didn't like how...
Jim!
we'll see an HR on Monday
what is today that's what I would
know like what has this show been
no listen there's the this
there's the this I don't know it all
it all went off the rows
the edging yeah
edging what else did you say
you said something
getting cracked no not get cracked
what did you say
like I'm not looking to edge
gargle them up or something
gobble them up
um
gobble them up
yeah yeah that was actually
the last super chat
yeah oh good
There's been a lot.
There's been a lot going on today.
It came off the Bronson thing.
We had fucking Adioro Martins fucking at the bar.
It's been a good one, though.
UFC 322 this weekend.
Adjiano Martinez ate whiskeys deep as a character that you should probably bring back every once in a while.
Edging!
I'm imagining.
I'm imagining, Dana White saying that in his raining voice.
Oh, yeah, the cranking.
Paul Muhammad flashed Sean Brady.
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Either way, that's it for us.
UFC 322 preview in the books,
voicemails, everything, all the like.
Go watch the action, Bronson,
fight feast, extravaganza.
If you haven't seen it yet,
it's already up on the channel.
Bronson, Hawani,
NYC, 322 fight week.
Go watch that.
The crack tomorrow.
Right after Wayans,
they'll get you ready for 322,
the final preparations,
and then Saturday night.
Join us right here,
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