The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC 325 Post-Fight Show: Alex Volkanovski DOMINATES Diego Lopes AGAIN! Who's next?

Episode Date: February 1, 2026

Ariel Helwani reunites with Petesy Carroll and Chuck Mindenhall to break down UFC 325, starting with Alexander Volkanovski's dominant performance against Diego Lopes in their championship rematch (03:04).After a discussion about who Volkanovski should fight next, they touch on Benoit Saint-Denis' big win over Dan Hooker (26:47), Mauricio Ruffy finishing Rafael Fiziev (34:50), Tai Tuivasa coming up short against Tallison Teixeira (40:57), and another highlight reel win by Quillan Salkilld (46:11).The show closes with a look at the night's prelims (49:15) and Chuck's final thoughts (1:01:44).

Hello and welcome to this UFC 325 and dare I say uncrowned Saturday post-fight show. What a day it has been. It has been about 10 hours straight of combat. We're going to recap it all. And in fact, as we sit here right now, right this moment, it's still going strong. Shakur Stevenson just entered the ring at Madison Square Garden. I'm going to keep my eye on that fight for all of you. It's been a great card over there, the ring six card.

but of course we are focusing right now on UFC 325. And just like we saw back in April, it was another master class for Alexander the great Volcanovsky against Diego Lopez. He is still the UFC featherweight champion. Last time when he fought Diego Lopez, back in April, some nine months ago, it was 2.49-46s and 1.48-47. This time, 2.49-46s and 1.50 to 45. I don't disagree with that one.

And so it does beg the question, what was the point of all of this? Now, of course, that's a little Monday morning quarterbacking, but there was a strong contingency of people, and we were part of that contingency who said, like, maybe Mofsar and Lerone deserved the crack. I think Alexander the Great Volcanovsky proved that tonight. I think he proved that he's that much better than Diego Lopez,

and he was against the eight ball. He said that, you know, he had some issues in camp. it was a little bit trying at times. He had to dig down deep. He used that as motivation, but he was trying to put him away, which is what he didn't do the first time around. He didn't do that. But it was, to me, it was a, it was a rather fun, entertaining fight, but also a pretty easy one to score. I had it 49, 46, 50 to 45. In the end, Alex Volcanovsky gets his great homecoming moment, the moment that he didn't get back in Perth a couple of years ago. And in doing so, by the way, he ties the great Joseoaldo for most successful title defenses at 145 pounds.

The real conversation, we have these premature conversations about the new goats in a weight class. Well, you can now officially start having that conversation at 145 pounds. And there's probably a lot of you out there who think he's already surpassed the great Joseo. Also on the card, Benoit Saint-Denie with a great win, his fourth in row against Dan Hooker. And Mauricio Rufi got back on track with a big win over Hafeel Fizzi. It's actually Maricio Hufi. It's always tough when you've got the Hufi with the HR and then you've got the R, the hard R of Rafael Vaziv.

I don't know what I'm talking about. I am very happy that it's 1206 a.m. It was a much quicker card. We'll talk about the adjustments that Paramount Plus and the UFC made in their second voyage here, back-to-back numbered events, very fun stuff. What a day it has been. It started, by the way. It started, by the way, at around 2 o'clock in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia for the Royal Rumble,

the 26 Royal Rumble, Liv Morgan winning on the women's side, on the men's side, Roman Rains. Then we were over in Newcastle for a big win for one, Josh Kelly, another British champion. He wins the IBF Super Welterweight title. Over in London on BBC 2, Francesca Hennessy won a controversial bout. Then we moved over to the UFC in Sydney. You know what happened in that card. And then over in Puerto Rico, Xander Zayez, a

up-and-coming superstar out of Puerto Rico, becomes the first unified champion to hail from that island since Miguel Cotto. He wins a big one for top rank. And over in New York City, the ring six card with the likes of Shushu-Karrington and, of course, Kishon Davis, and right now, Shakur Stevenson,

and the great Tiafima Lopez going toe-to-to-to-to. What a day, the second annual, uncrowned Saturday, is here and now, and I've got my friends here with me, the other members of Three Park to Recapital. First, we say hello. Once again, we missed him last week to the man in the hat, aka the mayor of the Nutmeg State,

the one and only. Chuck Mindenaws here. Hello, Chuck. How are you? I am well, sir. I apologize about missing last week. I really wanted to be here, but I wouldn't have missed this one, man.

Is that, is that, that's not Jim Leonard's helmet behind you, is it? Who's to check? You're going to love him. You're going to love him, man. I think that a lot of Denver fans wanted him to be our defense. coordinator, so I think that's a good get.

Chuck, I'm still salty. I had to get one in. It's all I got at the moment. I feel like you got more. I feel like you got more in you. We'll let it play out. Okay, all right. Yeah, this is the first time we get a chance to speak to each other since that infamous catch, no catch. Anyway, we've got the great Pt Caryl here with us. He is the patron saint of the Emerald Dial. He is also the host of the critically acclaimed podcast, the crack. He's the one and only aforementioned Peecee Carroll. Hello, Peecee, how are you? You must be feeling like a pig and shit here. It's 5.08 a.m.

over there. I mean, this is unbelievable. What an event. UFC, you've knocked it out of the park. Whatever you're doing, keep doing it. This is fantastic. And look, there's a lot of winners today, guys, I'm sure we're going to get into Roman reigns,

Liv Morgan, Alexei, Wolkenowski. Sure. But I just want to offer a big congratulations to Mysterious Frank, who's had massive wins today. Absolutely. One of two people to complete, a complete straight, complete prediction of all the main card and the World Card.

And of course, Royal Rumble as well. We're going to talk about it more on one day, but congratulations, Mysterious, Frank. I really appreciate that. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, no, we're trying to keep it on task here, okay? We're talking about UFC 325, all right? None of that other stuff. Although the Jabbawhakis are walking out to you, Fima Lopez as we speak.

It's quite the scene over there at the Madison Square Garden, World's Most Famous Arena. Now, Chuck, let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. Alex Volcanovsky with another master class. He continues to defy logic. He's timeless. He's all class. He's really, I mean, he's,

he's really going to go down as one of the greatest fighters of all time, regardless of weight class, right? And so as you're watching that, does the thought ever cross your mind, like, what was the point of all of this? Like, kind of felt, it wasn't the same fight, but it did sort of feel like we just saw this. He proved that point in April,

and he didn't really have to prove it. Again, and quite frankly, I did wonder what Lorone Murphy and Mofor Evlo, if they are watching, we're thinking as well. Well, maybe they will chime in at some point while we're doing this, but it did feel like a very similar facsimile to what we watched before. There were some differences. And I don't know how you guys watch this,

but I was watching this almost from the Diego Lopez lens of like, what does he do different? Because he was so outclass the first time that you're, that's why we felt it was meaningless. You're like, well, I don't really think that there's much he's going to be able to do to Volcanowski in the second time. So you get into the situation, and I'm watching it from the Diego lens.

And really the only big adjustment, I mean, he was cutting the cage a little bit more and stuff like that. But like the biggest thing was he wasn't loading up on his shots as much. He still got off to a slow start. But in that first fight, it felt like he was trying to take off Okunovsky's head and he thought he would have that opportunity. And he got frustrated, I think. And he did land a couple, a couple of big ones throughout the fight.

But it seemed like he just, you know, he couldn't get things to fall his way and he was eating way more than he was landing. This particular time, I felt like he was more efficient with his striking. But they, you know, even on the, on the telecast, they're saying, you know, start, they're kind of conflicted. Like, you start slow, you feel it out, be patient, and then you come to life. But what you realize, and this is what made the exercise seem futile, was there was just nothing he was going to be able to do. I tweeted this afterward. I'm like, it feels like these guys could meet 10 times.

And I feel like you'd get the exact same kind of fight again and again. If anything, Volcanowski would figure out the ways to put Lopez away in the end. That's the way it looked. The bigger shots go to him, the cleaner shots. just confounds him with his movement, switching stances, the level changes, all of that. I just felt like Lopez has no answer for

anything the Volcanovsky does, especially in a pattern of the fight and the whole sequence exchanges and stuff. You can just see it at one moment. There's always a moment where it's like, Volcanoes getting the better of them. It played out. We've seen it for 50 minutes now. And around the fourth, fifth round, I mean, maybe it occurred you guys earlier, but I was like,

yeah, that's what it happens. Is you're like, did we have to see this again? because you're justifying it through the Diego lens, and once you're looking through that lens, you're like, it's just not happening, boys. You know what I mean? Ptty would impress you most. Well, what I couldn't stop thinking about throughout it is,

like we have to be skeptical. We're media, we're naturally skeptical. Not from our direction, but a lot of questions that lead up to this event, to Volcanovsky about, you know, you're 37 now. You know, you must be thinking about returning, and he has to bat these questions down. And similar to Chuck, I'm watching this.

I'm like, all right, he's, he's doing even better now. He's he's added some numbers onto the clock here. He's doing even better. I just feel like all of that talk about retirement, we should be really appreciating this deal because he is absolutely brilliant, as you say,

equalling Aldo's record there today. What I'd ask you, Ariel is, what do you think of what he said in his post-foot interview? He's talking about Moves Sar and Lorone. Like we're talking about contenders in this division. Do we need to see this again? UFC, they don't have a huge amount of contenders at Fed away.

these guys are the first two people that we'd like to see against Volk. Is it not counterintuitive to put them together if what he is saying is true? No, it's a great shout. I think most people thought that they would do Lorone versus Mofsar in London. And that may still be the plan that hasn't been announced just yet. And I was told that there might be some delays in that. And so if, let's just say it does happen in March, then that makes the most amount of sense. If there is a delay, then there's a bit of an issue there.

Because this is a guy who has said he wants to fight three times. he's not getting younger. We don't know what he was referring to when he said it was a somewhat problematic training camp. I'm sure the body is taking some wear and tear, is having to deal with that. But he has said all week long he wants to fight three times this year. I would suggest that, like, you know, learn from history. Maybe two would be better. One now and one maybe, I don't know, midway back end, third quarter, fourth quarter of 2026.

But yes, those are the two guys. And by the way, not enough is said of the fact that here is Alex Volcanovsky almost like campaigning on behalf of Mofsar and Laron, who are not draws, right? Like, they're not big draws. These aren't the money fights. These aren't the sexy fights that are going to get you like more money. These are like the least popular guys in the division, right? Especially most challenging.

Yes, and the toughest. And here is the aforementioned Moussar tweeting, great fight, Alex Volkanowski. He showed that you can get better at that age. I can't wait to share a cage to show why I am different than these guys. And so Volcanovsky would not, he would not protest, he would not throw a fit if he gets Mofsar or Lerone. I thought it should have been Lerone after the spinning back elbow. I would have no problem if it's Mofsar. Their neck and neck as far as their winning streaks right now, I just thought Lerone's activity and the way in which he punctuated that finish should get him the title shot.

It did not happen. And so if they're not going to fight for the belt, might as well fight each other. but you're 100% right. And by the way, can I just say not enough is made of the fact that, like, and I know we kind of like talked about this after the last win, but still, who would have thought

after the two losses, the knockout losses to Islam and Ilya, that he would come back and look like this. This doesn't happen. You know what I mean? And I know he just beat the same guy twice, but still, at 37 to come back from two devastating knockouts where it seems as though he may have lost his head, right? Lost everything

to come back and do this. Like, this guy's legacy, man, we are going to appreciate him even more when he is gone for what he's doing tail in of his career, Chuck. Imagine if he goes through the two guys you just mentioned. You know, that's his year. Like, I think that, you know, you're 100% right. People kind of forget because you go into this one. And I think that people, you know, you watch the first one, you're like, okay, Volcanowski, you kind of just kicked back up into the Volcanowski train that we had before, where it's like, I hope this guy's incredible. But going into that first fight, there was just such a question of, can he

hang with another power pod got a finisher like this and it felt like he was kind of being you know the changing of the guard they were just kind of feeding him to diego that that was kind because we didn't know we thought the volcanowski was done the version that we knew we thought was done for him to do this and again to kind of get a similar opponent or a familiar opponent and look better the second time like he learned the lesson he's able to kind of break down what he needs to do better and uh and come off like this it's it's remarkable man like and i think what you you you mean you mentioned it. How often do you get a champion that's actually championing the meritocracy within his ranks where he's like he's like you mentioned nobody's talking about Mozart really unless

it's the hardcore fans. Nobody's really talking about Lorone unless it's Pizzi. And so we're like the only guys right now who are no, but I'm but like they're not really getting the push. And you have the champion saying that, you know, I want them. So many times you get a champion who does the opposite. Acts like nobody really has. You know what I mean? Like the nobody has earned that right yet. to face them or certain guys haven't. It's just so refreshing. And his, how prolific he was as a champion and to kind of want to do that still, the UFC should, I don't even know what, like, he should get some kind of lifetime

achievement award for, for being who he is, man, because he's been everything that the UFC could possibly want from a champion. Pete, you can ask you? Go ahead, go ahead. Sorry, go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was just kind of saying, like, it kind of highlights how poor the matchmaking is, and it got a lot of criticism at the time with the other contenders there, that now Lopez

is the furthest guy away from the title. Like you thought you were doing a favor by putting this guy in the mix. Now he's lost, as Chuck said, 50 minutes of fighting against Volcanowski. Who's crying out for that now? Like, what does he now become in this division? Like, I wonder how Lopez taught, like what his team taught about, what everyone thought about when he has offered this, would they have liked more time to try and improve,

to try and figure this guy out? Because now you're in this situation where you're going to be, like most of the time, a guy like this who's lost twice for the title, you are now going to be the guy that's bleeding contenders, into that division, into that title picture. So just really counterintuitive in hindsight. And I know we said at the time, too, how poor that matchmaking was.

Okay, fun game, fun game. Here you look at the current rankings. You see Mofsard there, you see Diego there, Jaire, LaRone, can make a case for him being higher. Those are the current rankings. Obviously, John Silva's down there, big win for him, Al Jermaine Sterling, still a big player now at 145.

Give me one word, PT. Greatest featherweight of all time. Volcanowski now, I think. Chuck? No, that's one. It's Volcanovsky. Okay, let's play a fun game. Let's play a fun game.

So they've tied each other, right? So he tied Aldo, right? He tied Aldo for successful title defenses at 145. I'm going to give you the opponents, okay, on route to this, and we say which one was more impressive, all right? And then we find out. So it's on our opinion. It's a mathematical equation.

You understand what I'm saying? All right, all right. So we're talking title defenses. So I'm including WEC. Do you think they include WC when they say this stat? Or do you think it's just UFC? Now, we should though, because WC was the standard. Well, then Aldo might pass him.

Fuck, this game just, I just screwed up this game off. I'm not going to have an argument with someone if they have Al-O-Eater. What Al-O-W was, he's the first guy. He put Fed away on the map to the degree when that was going over into the UFC. I know there was people before him, Brown, Faber, all those guys. but he was really the guy. We were like, this is a kid from Brazil.

Yeah. But still, the level of competition. I mean, that, so, like, if you get into the resume thing, like,

okay, what was harder, I think Volkinovsky's, that's just my opinion. I mean, you looked at some of the, and I'm not saying there were layups for Aldo,

but he was pretty big favorites in some of his fights. Yeah. Because of who he was. Like, he was just so far ahead of most of these guys. So they just kind of had to feed him somebody to keep him rolling.

And when you have Holloway three times, and Aldo is part of that. And, you know, even Diego in the situation where he's supposed to be the new guy or whatever it is, and you're able to just keep doing this, that resume speaks for itself, you know? This stat is all very weird to me, if I'm being 100% honest. It might not even be defenses. It might just be title victories. What a mess. Okay, let's go.

We're going to include WC here and see if we can figure it out. All right. I have to do this. Mike Brown, Max Holloway. I mean, Max. Okay, okay. Frank, do you mind keeping score for us here? Yeah.

That's one for, that's one for Volcanovsky. All right. Uriah Faber, Max Holloway. It's Max. Max again. Max. Okay, that's two. Okay.

Mani Gambiery, Max Holloway. Three. Mani Gamburin, obviously. Mark Hominick, Brian Ortega. four Ortega right Ortega

yeah Kenny Florian Chan Sung Jung five right Chad Mendes I agree I agree

Chad Mendes Max Holloway I assume yes okay this is the worst game of all time point is

Alex Volcanowski is the greatest Yeah no no I thought it was gonna be a tit for tad I did this with Rick at GC was more fun

I guess I guess what it proves is he's the greatest featherweight champion of all time. Yeah. It's not even a hot time. He has the other guys. Anyone, he has all the other guys on his resume.

Like that's also another convincing part of it. Like, oh, who do you have Alo? He beat him. Who do you have Holloway? He beat him. Right. No, you're right. One, two, three, four, five.

Yeah, people are, uh, yeah. I mean, it's, it's, yeah, I screwed that up. I screwed that up. But the point is, it, it, it, it's, here's the point. Here's the point. I feel like we, try to make a new goat all the time. And this is one of the first times in a while where it's like, yes, he is unequivocally the greatest feather rate of all time. And it's an amazing thing when

you remember the beginning of his career. This is a guy who early in his UFC run, like, I don't know if he had the aura. I don't know if he had the makings of being, you know, a future goat. You know, when he beat Yusuki Kasuya on the Whitaker Brunson card in November of 2016, I don't know if anyone was saying that's the guy, even when he beat Mizuto Hirota or Shane Young or Jeremy Kennedy or Darren Elkins, once he got to the Chad Mendez fight at UFC 232, remember he was starting to bang the drum, and then he started to do the thing where he would fly anywhere to be, you know, the backup fighter and to get the opportunity. And it's just been an amazing story to watch. And also, let's not even bring up the personality and how he's evolved and how he's become

so popular. I was seeing some tweets today. I don't know if they're joking or not, but I was seeing some tweets today from people being like, I just found out that this like cooking YouTube channel guy is also a UFC champion and I had no idea. Like that he's become, and I think I was looking at their other tweets and I think that they were being serious because they weren't MMA fans just doing things tongue and cheek. Like he's got a million subs on or followers or whatever on that on that cooking with Vogue Instagram page and all that. So he's, the guy is prolific. It's unbelievable. amazing to see. I did a like a piece, I mean, early on, early on for MMA fighting where I talked to him and it was the first feature that I'm even aware, like, where somebody really deep dive, because

obviously he was a rugby player and he weighed like 70 pounds or whatever was bigger than he ended up being as a fighter. And what you're talking about is absolutely true because I was, I remember kind of thinking like, I'm not sure he has the aura because he spoke in like the bromides of like, you know, he was a very nice guy, but he was speaking in that. way that pro athletes speak and I'm like if he wants to be a fighter like obviously you're going to have to stir some shit up type thing and to see his

evolution not just in what he's been able to do in the cage but just outside of it like his personality and kind of letting people see who he is on these different levels and like his kind of very subtle sense of humor over the course of time it's coincided brilliantly with his run man and I think

that's why he's so beloved so what do you guys think happens here do you think they do most of services the Rhone or do you think they have one of those guys fight him. And here's the thing if they don't. It's silly if they do, you know. Okay, so who do you give the nod to? Lorone.

I think so, too. Yeah. Why? It's the most exciting fight. Like, you know, Mavsar, unfortunately, like, look, we know what the currency of the UFC is today. Look, some people will say Mawr deserves it in terms of meritocracy. You've gone through it already, Ariel. Similar amount of wins, all that kind of thing.

Lerone is a more exciting fighter as far as I'm concerned. That will go with the UFC. more than Mavsar. Well, I think to put them against each other, eliminates one, and that just, it doesn't feel like the right move. If this guy's here now,

looking as good as he is, and he wants to take on these new, these two new contenders in the bracket, I'd absolutely love to say that. Yeah, and in terms of theatrics, like just kind of bringing some, the dude's got a crazy backstory. I feel like he said,

I don't even think people are fully embracing Lorone yet for, like, you know, kind of what he's faced and who he is. That would at least shine the light on him. And I do think that he presented, sense like a, you know, if you're at the UFC and you have a dilemma of saying, do we want Mozar as a champion, right? Like, do we want to throw our marketing muscle or anything like that behind this guy that we don't, we just don't think has that yet? You probably, if you're going to have your

druthers in that sense, you go with Lorone, right? Like, and I think that that does present, at least, to the public, I think, the more exciting fight right now. Yeah. And by the way, it's the perfect fight for London, right? It's the perfect fight for that London main event. Hopefully you get Lorone over. You get the London crowd behind him. You hope that they get behind him and his story. And it's a number one contender fight. I mean, if they don't build this as a number one contender fight,

if they go in that direction and don't build this as a number one contender fight, then nothing is ever a number one contender fight, right? Like, it is the perfect number one contender fight. And I believe, because that car PT is March 21st, right? So I believe if it's March 21st, I think that, I think it will be a case of Remember when Armand fought Charles Levera at UFC 300 and they

asked him right after like hey do you want to turn around and fight for the belt two months later against Islam and he turned it down and then they went with Dustin? I think they'll do something like that because they don't love both of those guys for whatever reason. They'll have them fight March 21st in London. Winner will get asked to turn around

relatively quickly if Volkanowski is healthy. I'm not saying like six weeks later but you know like hey we we need a slot buddy all right this is your chance and then he just fights the winner. That's probably what is going to happen and what should happen. And then we'll find out. I wonder who would be the favorite in that fight.

That's a really tough fight. You know what? I hate it, man. I think it's so hard for Laurent to look good in that fight. You know, really. That's the problem. Like you're talking about like you're laying them up in London against mobs. Are you laying them up?

That's a horrific fight. 25 minutes, man. Like, that is a long time. and then if he doesn't win if it's sorry to say that that's a disaster he loses in London the flip side of that is UFC now have to make the Mouthsaher fight which day and it seems very reluctant to do

for a very long time so I just I think there's meritoxy wise okay that's fine but why are we suddenly doing that that is not what they do any other time today's main event doesn't make sense from that point of view but yet you're gonna be so strict about the number one contender

about when neither of them have fought this guy and he's looking absolutely brilliant. Who would be the wild card? You showed that graphic with the rankings. Who would be the wild card to sneak in there if neither one of these guys ends up being next? John Silva. John Silva, yeah.

They probably be the one. I think you're right. I think it would be John Silva. I mean, that would be crazy. I love John Silva, but he's on a one-fight win-shek, so was Diego Lopez. Or Diego Lopez trilogy for you. Oh, my God.

The world will stop. The world will stop. No, that's the one. That's the one. By the way, I really enjoyed the crowd. I thought they were fun. Some people were saying that they were dead, but like the walkout was great. They will get to Tai Tui Vasa in a bit, but like they were trying to will him to victory.

I thought it was a really fun crowd. Remember, this is a Sunday morning crowd. This is Sunday morning over there. The card starts relatively early. Before we move along, quick shout out. I feel like our friends at the UFC figured it out in just one week. You know, it was sort of getting worried there. The prelims, we got a.

round and a half of action in the first 43 minutes of the prelims, the 7 to 743 with the Oban Lian fight lasting a round and a half. And I was like, oh my God, this is going to be a disaster. Main card, I thought, flew by, number one. We got the main event, you know, starting at around like 11.22 p.m. Eastern Time, which I thought was huge. The main card started at, I was monitoring all of this at 921. Last week it started essentially at 931. So they shaved 10 minutes off the top, which the head man, Zach Candido did promise on social media that he would do. And I thought what was probably most notable. And here he is saying, you want walks, we'll give you walks, or at least we'll try. This was most notable. They gave you all the walkouts. And then as the red

corner gets into the cage and was doing the little warm-up, then they went to a quick like 30 second spot in between rounds. They gave you the corner talk. They went to the L bar, which I think some of us suggested last week with a little ad here, monster energy there. I bet three six, if that's, if that's the new era, I don't know how you can complain for $899, right? I didn't, I didn't really see any issues here as opposed to all the issues everyone was belly aching about last week. I thought it was brilliant, man. It was like, it was seamless. It felt like we were always on to the next fight. I would take this every time, man. Look at us.

We're recording right. We're halfway through a show. It's like 1230 a.m. It's crazy. Amen, brother. Amen. That's all you need to tell me. You know what I mean?

Go ahead. All right, PT. Comaine. Big win for BSD against Dan Hooker. Thought it went like 10 seconds too long there. I thought Herb Dean gave Dan every opportunity possible to get out of that mount position. And the elbows and the punches were they were all, they were all sneaking by, right? Like they were all landing.

He was all bloody. I can't imagine what the face is looking like, what the nose feels like. But here's Ben Wessentini. Talk about a comeback story. This guy had a, he had a nightmare, 2024. He comes back and has a tremendous 2025. Here he starts the year with another big win. He's won four straight.

And he said, I want the undisputed belt or I want the BMF. He did also say, Armin, you know, essentially, in paraphrasing here, you're a punk and I'm going to take your spot. But he was very clear about two things. I want undisputed or BMF. would you think of BSD and Dan Hooker? I think, first of all, he probably, I don't know if he's going to get either of those things. Secondly, I think it was really impressive

from the point of view of things started going wrong there early on, and it reminded me a lot of the Porreux fight too, where he's getting hit in the buddy, and it's just like he's just taking this, and he's just going to walk through them, I guess. Like, this seems to be the strategy, but he came out at the other side of it then, and he fought brilliantly.

He's been looking great, and I think he's going to take a lot from that specifically because of what I just said there. He was put in bad situations. Hooker was landed in a beautiful teep kick through the body. He landed on numerous occasions and you could see big visible reactions

from BSD. I think the fact that he came through that and then really dominated Hooker. I think you can't say enough good things about him. I will say like, I don't think a BMF title. A BMF title is all about, you know, how much of a star you are,

how much of a cult following you have. I don't think he's there yet. And it's still very, hard to talk about anyone in a lightweight picture that isn't Armin Sarukin. But, I wouldn't rule out that fight happening. I think they need to keep Armin busy if they're going to be adamant about Gagey V.

Ilya and kind of unifying these titles, Armand will be left without a dance partner. So maybe that does make sense. What do you think, Chuck? I would, how many people actually call, like,

I know it wasn't like a direct call up, but how many people actually even mention Armand and like in that situation. So if all else fails, I'm like, that's a great fight. And what is he's got four in a row now, right? Like,

because I thought for a minute, especially after the Moikana one, it was after that one. You know, you could almost be like, okay, Dustin Poirier, maybe he,

you know, he shot a shot early and then it was just like, this is a nightmare, it turns table, but losing that, Moikano one, I was like,

I wasn't sure then if he was going to, like, you'd almost feel like what's happened with Fiziv is like, maybe they're just going to start to fall off. And he's not done that.

he's kind of come back strong. I agree with Pizzi, though. He takes some crazy shots, man. Like, I thought Hooker, he couldn't have started that fight better, landing those body shots. And it just seemed like Benoit was kind of, he was going to keep, like, he was going to keep moving forward and doing what he's going to do,

regardless of what Hooker was going to do. I'm not sure that that's the smartest play against guys like Armand, if he ends up with that. But I appreciate that he believes now that he's back up there. And honestly, man, what do you, like, if that fight, is available and the UFC doesn't know what to do with our mind i would love to see it i just think that that would be like that's that's the top of the top in that division so i think that that'd be a great

fight i know that there is a a want by some to dismiss stan hooker to say that he's you know a bomb and all this stuff because he's lost these last two fights i do want to remind you that all right he's got in his last three five in his last seven fights he does have four losses But listen to who he's lost to. He's lost to Islamahatchev. He lost to Arnold Allen in a featherweight bout. He lost to Armant-Srucian and BSD. I mean, four of the best fighters in the world,

three of the best lightweights in the world, and then one of the best featherweights in the world, obviously the wins were against Claudio Pueyes, Jalen Turner, Mateus Scamrod. That was a great win as well, fighted. That was a huge one. Yeah, 24.

So, like, I saw a lot of people ripping on Dan Hooker. Like, these are top guys. I do think, you know, it was a quick turnaround for him. He said he broke his nose before the fight against Arm and Taruchin. If that was, in fact, true, like, that's a lot of damage to sustain. The fact that he's coming back, he came back, you know, a little over two months after that loss. That loss was in late November, and I know we were all excited about the matchup, but, like, I couldn't believe he was coming back so soon.

And obviously he wanted to fight close to home. But maybe there was something to be said that, you know, come back, you know, Brian or Tega just pulled out, maybe there's a fight against a guy like that, or even a Moikana would would be great, but like I would love to see him take some time off, take a bit of a step back. I don't, Dan Hooker I still maintain, has reached that Seroni territory where he'll lose two in a row. People still love him. Derek Lewis is another example of a guy like that.

People still want to watch him fight. He's not going anywhere. He's as popular, if not more than ever. You lose to BSD. BSD's on fire right now, and that whole team with Emov and that whole team, that whole crew is just looking great right now. So I don't think there's anything to really hang his head down about, but BSD is that guy I agree with you guys.

The more I think about the Armand fight, I kind of dig it. If, like, if Armand's not going to get a title shot next and they're really going to go in the direction of Justin versus Zilia, I'd rather him fight. Like, he's doing all these side quests. I'd rather him fighting the UFC than, you know, do this other stuff. You know what I mean? So I don't hate that. What about Patty, Pam?

Is Patty off the fight? the table now for Hooker? Listen, if I'm Paddy's... More on the table than ever. He's more on the table. Yeah, but if I'm Patty's manager, I'm staying as far away from that as possible. Look at the rankings right here.

Armands 2. Charles obviously is fighting Max. There you go, Max. Patty, I'm staying away from Hooker. He just beat. Gamrod, he has the history with, and there's BSD. It's not the craziest. It's not the craziest idea.

To be clear, I think he should be fighting for the belt next. But if they're going to do the IC champ fighting Teporea, then it's probably the one that makes the most amount of sense right now. Hang on, sorry, what makes the most sense? BSD versus Armin. So who are you saying for Patty is hooker? Oh, I'm saying Patty's got to take a hell of a lot of time off. Okay.

By the way, by the way, don't hate that at all. But like, I don't want to see those guys for like eight months at this point. Like, they've taken a hell of a lot of damage. Do you not agree? No, I do. I do. Sorry, I just got lost. By the way, it's not a bad shot at all.

Was I all over the gaff there? I don't know. One of us was. It was probably me. Let's just move on swiftly. How about that? By the way, in case you're wondering, Tifuma Lopez is all over the gap. He's getting completely outclassed by Chaucer Stie Vincent right now. Yeah, a lot of people saying 6-0, I believe they're in the 6th, yeah. So this would be a huge one for moving up to 140 pounds and finally perhaps getting some respect. I think a lot of people want to see him put Lopez away. Let's see if he does that. So we're keeping an eye on that.

This is the final little piece of this tremendous uncrowned Saturday that started some 10 hours ago. Did you guys have a problem with the stoppage? Or did you think that he was just giving, Herb Dean was just giving hooker respect? I don't know. I felt like it just went a little bit too long. No, man, I was, I was actually, you know, when you get to that point where you're like, dude, stop the fight. Like, you're actually talking to the TV.

I was, I was saying that for a little while while those shots were raining down. There's no point. I mean, once he's turtling up, and I know he's going, like, if you're like, if you're insisting, like, fight back, I know he, like, threw like a, like a punch backwards, like, just to show something. But I'm like, that doesn't, that's not intelligent defense at that point, right? Like, he's just, that went on, that went on way too long, in my opinion. I agree.

All right, let's talk about Mauricio Hoofee against Rafael Fazeve. I know some of you like that hard art. You know what I'm talking about, right? Raphael and Bufi. Yes, come on. Yeah, yeah. You're right, that is very confusing.

That they back on there. Both names, yeah. Because I feel like a lot of people want to call him Hafeel Fiziv, but it's actually Raphael, because we're so, we're so... All right, let's just, let's just wait. Let's just go whatever we're going with tonight. Fiziv.

Let's just... Let's go Fiziv. Fiziv. Huffi. Or Fiziv and Mauricio. I'm not going to, like, I don't want to get into this, but Fiziv. Get into it. They started changing this around the time they told us that Kiev was Kiv.

And we're like, I've been saying Kiev for 35 years. Good point. Fair enough. You know what I mean? It's a good point. It's a good point. What about first round, a bit of a feeling out, fun, but then the second round, holy crap, Huffy with the jab, jab, jab, jab, jab.

And then he unleashes this right hand that completely dismantled Huffy. excuse me, Fizzis, Jesus Christ, now I'm screwing up the names. He was on roller skates, couldn't figure him out, and then he finishes him. This is a guy who came off that really bad loss back in Paris. To BSD, it was kind of interesting seeing them sitting next to each other on the dais at the press conference, spends a lot of time with the vocamp, hasn't left fighting nerds, even confirmed afterwards. He's going to go back. Did show up to his post-fight availability, his media availability's arm in a sling, Not sure if anyone asked him about that.

There he is. So I'm not sure what that is all about. We'll find out very soon. But I thought that was a huge bounce back win for a guy who then, you know, who obviously went to Sydney, who trained with the champ, trained with the likes of Izzy, got a little bit, you know, maybe a different look, scenery, vibe, whatever. Huge win against a very tough out.

And I thought he was the more accomplished fighter going in. I think he proved that PT on this night. Yeah, and look, I felt like he was matched similarly how Peyton Talbot was. He loses to Haione Barcellos and he gets Felipe Lima and you're kind of going, that's not really a step back here, you know? What are we doing? And he loses, we saw Hoofie lose to BSD and then he's in against Viziv and you're like, you know what?

I don't know if that's the right move. If I'm your manager, I do not know if I'm putting you in that fight. Honestly, early on in this fight when he was taking up that kind of back foot position that he does and he's allowing Viziv to come on to him. I was like, oh man, you're making all the same mistakes as he did against BSD. But as you said, completely changed the game with that job, got that going, and he just kept it in his face,

found a big right hand. And you generally don't see Vizive reacting to shots like that as well, which will be a feather in Hoofey's camp. I think he's the most exciting of the fighting nerds, John Silver included. I think he's a spectacular striker. He reminds me of McGregor early on, big range of physique with a big backhand.

capable of spinning kicks, capable of everything spectacular. I'm very happy to have them up towards the top of the division again with that win. Yeah, and you mentioned, you mentioned, oh, yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No, no, please, please, please. I was just going to say you mentioned just the McGregor thing, and I know that's like always our default on certain. It's cliche, right? It's cliche, but at the same time,

one of the things that struck you about McGregor early on was just the poise. This one, it was almost like they were saying, like, guys, Hoofie's kind of starting slow here. He's not really throwing a lot, but it was kind of, of, you know, like you mentioned, the jab and he was, he was dealing with the kicks. They were coming at him way more in volume probably than he was anticipating. But when he finally did unleash that right hand, did you see the poison which, like, so he just knocks him down and he just kind of stalks forward with no, it was like with no, like, no big urgency. He knew he'd

landed a flush and he knew he was going to, he could get the victory. Anytime you see that, man, where a guy slows the fight down like that, it always sticks with you. That's what makes those knockouts so beautiful. It's a big gap in the rankings between the two of them. Hoofie going to the fight 14 Fazeve 9. So you'd think that Hoofie will jump up. And, you know, if he jumps up, you're now in the BSD territory. He's obviously not going to fight him again because BSD is number eight. But he's such a fun fighter.

He's such an entertaining fighter. It was a striker's delight. It was such a great matchup. And I don't know, I was really impressed with that striking in the second round. Great, great win for Maurice Huffy. It's been nagging me. It's Volcanovsky tied Aldo for title victories, not title defenses. That's why the game didn't really work out.

I just wanted to... I'm a stickler for these things, guys. The game was great. The game was great, man. I thought it was great. I had a great time. I played it brilliantly, yes. Okay, I know.

I think we called a tit-for-tat. I think it was called tit-for-tat when we did it. It was a big hit when we did it, but I couldn't quite recreate the magic. Anyway... Let me and Chuck's fault is what you're saying. Everyone else was great at it. You destroyed it with me and joke. And we shit the best.

That's what you're saying. I didn't want to say it. But if you want to say it, it's out there now. 7-0-0 for Shakor Stevenson. So a masterclass for the pride of Brick City, Newark, New Jersey, stand up. Anyway.

That's a surprise you at all. That's a surprise you, Hulae. That's playing out. You know, it's funny. You say that. I was at the mall today, and someone came up to me, and it was like, who do you got? Who do you got in the main?

This was a fun thing about the main. This was a fun thing about the week. People were saying to me, who do you got in the main? You know, I'm a sort of man of the people. I was at the Knicks game yesterday. Of course.

I'm senior, yeah, out and about. Yeah, I told my kids, I'm like, do you understand? I was like,

sort of my city. Like, this is my city, my reigns. Like, do you get it now? Anyway. And I'm like, which main event,

you know, there's, and so some people said the boxing, some people, which I liked. I like, people want my boxing takes. Great. And I was like,

I think Shakur's got him. I think Shikor's got him. I think Tifimo's better days are behind him. I think Shakur is incredible, and I think he doesn't get enough respect. It's one thing to say that the guy's not exciting. All right, at times maybe, but he's an incredible fighter. He's an absolute stud. So, yeah, he's en route to victory, and that would be a huge win for him.

They're in the eighth round in Madison Square Garden. I enjoyed guys the Tai Tui Vasa fight against Towson-Teshire way too much. It was just so entertaining and fun, and maybe it was the crowd, like, tried to will Twyvasa to victory. It did unhappen. By the way, he suffered his six loss in a row. And this one went the distance. And it was Shade Chuck's, it was Shades, Chuck of Ben Rothwell against Mark Hunt,

UFC 150. You remember that? It was in Denver, yes. Yes. As it ends with both of them with their hands on their knees. But it was fun. You know what? Six in a row, I hope they keep them around.

Ties fun. I don't know. What do you think? No, no, I'm with. you, man. Like, I said going in, I was like, no, they got a, if you lose a six-win, I mean, you just can't hang around, but you see why they do it, you know? And I, I had fun in that one, too. I saw, I did see people kind of like, oh, my God, what a horrible fight, but that's just kind of this heavyweight prejudice. If it gets past, like, a round and a half, and, um,

that's bound to happen. Like, you could see both guys early in the second round already like, huff and air. And I was like, this is, if this keeps going, man, we're going to end up where we did. It was very entertaining because at the end there, what you're rooting for, it's not like, so the, like the, you know, the table turning moment is really just you saying, like, find the strength to stand up and hit him one more time, you know, that's kind of what it comes down to. And the fact that they can't, you know, is like this extra, like, layer of the theater, like, that you're like, oh, my God, this fight went, like, in such a crazy way that he can't even get up. Like, at the end there, if he just gets up, if Ty gets up and he's able to just land some shots,

you know, DeShire's so tired himself, it's probably over, you know? So, like, it's just, it's a wild fight, man. But I'm with you, man. There is something about, like, some guys, like Sam Alvi, for instance, it was like, well, why are they keeping around? It's not like people, like, show up to watch a Sam Alvey fight. He's just kind of on a card. But I always feel like with, Tuovasa, like, he's got, you know, people are interested in his fight every time, right? I feel like every time people want. want to see how it's going to pan out. As long as that's in place, man, to keep them around. PT? Keep them around. I don't know if you were watching the fights tonight, lads. Five losses in a row, Tui Vass's name flashes up.

There's a number beside it. It's number 12. And then I was like, oh, maybe something's wrong here. Maybe, maybe, you know, the night time delirium has me. He's ranked number 12 and he has a number 12 since February 22. and he's lost five fights in a row and he's here going like this dude he's fighting his rank number 15

the heavyweight division is in a shambles it is all over the gap they're letting lads go who are on winning streaks Martin Boudet fuck off all right you go back to OktaGame we don't want to do it to you

and you know of course they're going to keep him he's an amazing personality he'll do better than the vast majority of fighters will ever be in the UFC because he started enterprises outside of there He means so much to the fans. Well, honestly, like, it speaks more about the heavyweight division

and the situation that's been in for a long time, right? Like, this is not just Aspin, Al-Aspinal, Aspen was only been the Undisputed champion for three months, and we all know his situation is complicated. But even before that, with Jones, to have Tuivasa there for with his last win is February, 2020, it's now almost February, 2006. That's crazy.

It probably be ranked 11th come Monday. by the way I love the guy I really like the guy I love the fight too but it's crazy yeah yeah Tony Ferguson

had eight in a row what was he ranked oh who cares he's he's good vibes bam bam you know the walkouts all that stuff yeah no absolutely

it's a one wasn't really trying to dis bam bam I'm just trying to say like what is going on with that division how can that be the case you know what I mean no I mean

you know what was interesting first two rounds he lost, has his moments in the third, and you felt like, okay, keep the fight standing, keep the fight standing. And shout out to John Anick, he pointed it out because Bisping and Cormier were saying, like, you need to keep it standing. And Tashire was holding on to, I think it was his left wrist as he was hovering over him. Did you notice that?

I thought it was very savvy on Tashar's part. It looked like he was just sort of like, you know, engulfing him, Bambam was. but he hung on for dear life to share a, you know, not used to going the distance, not used to going past the first round. Obviously, it looked very, very tired afterwards, but I'd like to see him get one more chance. One more chance.

I don't know. Otherwise, where's he going to go? He's going to go to, I don't know, misfits or something. Where's he going to go? What's he going to do? Dirty boxing? I'd say you have options, man.

Yeah, no, he's the man. He's a freaking man. He had this long delay, let him get this one out of the way, and then give him one more, chance and I mean, look at the crowd. They were so behind of us.

It was fun. It was actually very sweet the way I felt like they were cheering him on and trying to get him, you know, over the top there. What about Quill and Selkilt guys? I mean, this guy is who I think a lot of people thought he was as far as like one of the big

breakout prospects of 2025 and he continues to win. He wins in the first round against Jamie Malarkey, a beautiful rear naked choke, the slam trapping that leg. I think it was the left leg, the rear naked slash neck crank. It was, that choke was everything that Gunther wanted his choke to be against

AJ Stiles earlier today. You get what I'm saying? Like, Gunther didn't have it. You didn't have it under the chin. He had it under chin. And then he cranked at the same time, PT. It was textbook. It was textbook.

You understand what I'm saying? Textbook. Gunther still put him out, my retort. I was going to say, Gunther still finish it, right? A win. A win, a win. Yeah. There's something about, like, those wrestling rear naked chokes that just seemed too

effortless. Like there's no fighting the hands. That's how good he is. That is how good he is a rear naked chokes me. That's like, I don't know why

you keep bringing this up. AJ Stozer is trying to say he doesn't know how to defend the rain like a joke? Come on. No. What about Quillard? Oh, does it?

AJ Stiles is what? 48. No. He's way younger than that. 50. Is he? Is he? Something like that.

AJ Stiles 48. 47 maybe. Holy shit, he's 48? What the fuck? Isn't that insane, man? This just blew my mind. He's flying all over the place. I'm like he's 40 years old.

Wow. There's something about the hair that makes me think he's like 36. I know he's been around forever. Soccer mom hair. That's not what they said about him. Somebody said that about him. One of the wrestlers did. Guys, it's all killed here.

I'm trying to give him his flowers. Sorry, sorry, sorry. He's a lovely. Sorry about that, I guess. You guys weren't impressed. I was. Yeah, it was. Wow.

He's also a biggest favor on the card, mate. You know what I mean? It was. Everybody. It's like the slam. he trapped the one leg he didn't do the body lock he just trapped the one of those nice

I don't know it was nice I don't know it was lovely but that one of those match trips like it is a showcase matchup he completely delivering that but unfortunately that was what it was expected going in and he nailed it sometimes you know I give him credit

when they're supposed to showcase it's a lot of pressure he actually went out there and he had just that like he actually was able to perform it and get a big finish and sort of like they said they was talking to you know the matchmakers or whatever I'm like

he seems to have that it factor a little bit right like so i i feel like yeah so i feel like that's one of the reasons yeah he's got the hair he's got stash yeah stash yeah i kind of felt sorry for malaki you know what i mean it like using an ozgy guy to put an ozgy guy over a guy who's like i didn't he was like i didn't know me that's a bit rough you know what i mean no one else yeah no one else you're jama lag yeah fair enough fair enough he's that guy ross pearson in his corner that was cool by the way uh cell killed and Hoofee got the performance of the night bonus. Volcanovsky and Lopez with the fight of the night.

So 100K for each of them, all four of those guys. And then 25K for Benoit Saint-Denie, Cam Raustin, McCallif, Nakamura, and Elikana. Let me tell you about the rest of the results on this here card. The aforementioned Billy Elikana beat Junior Tafa in the second round via Rear Naked Choke. Those were pretty fun. Cam Raustin defeated Cody Brundage via second round TKO

Jacob Malcun beat Torres Finney and a bit of a weird one Finney seemed compromise and it was also kind of weird because Daniel Cormier coaches him and you can tell he was yeah he was trying his best to be neutral I don't think he had any issues

but like no no no but genuinely feel him like this is his guy and you're making him comment done blow by blow and Darren win and Torres Finney and Daniel

Carmier old similar in stature. He's only trying a certain kind of buddy type? I mean, the arms are incredibly long. Like the torso is similar, but the arms are very impressive. He's a bit of a fan favorite. Loses his first fight down to 11 and 1 now. The aforementioned Jonathan McAuliffe submits Oban Elliott. O'Ban Elliott looked so good for like 95% of this fight, right, Pizzi?

Bit of a heartbreaker, right? I thought McAuliffe, like he was really struggling with him. I thought it was going to be a different fight, completely different how it played out. I thought Obam would look to take him down and dominate from Toppe. He briefly did it in the first round, but he was, I thought he was getting the better of him on the fee. And McAuliffe just pulls off a beautiful backtake and all fairness to him. Really, really slick, which I didn't think he had in his arsenal. Completely flipped what I thought was going to happen in the fight, but it's going to be even harder for Aubin because he fought so well.

I'd say, like, oh, holy shit. Like, I was winning that fight. I thought he was winning both rounds up until that backtake, and McAuliffe did a great job of finishing the show. Yeah, I'm gutted for him because he looked really good, and I know he's a very emotional guy, and this one was a big one for him after his incredible 2024 and his forgettable 2025.

And so tough loss, back to the drawing board. Khan hopefully won a controversial majority decision. A lot of people thought that he did not deserve that nod. And then you had the road to, to UFC fights, which were a hoot-nanny. For more on that, we're going to throw it over to pizza. I had a nap during that period. I was having a nap.

You're not breaking it down. Listen, all on this age, now, I really used to be able to do it through the whole. It used to be able to go to the whole way. I had the Royal Rumble today at 7, and I strapped myself in for that. And I told us afterwards, I'm finding it difficult to find the nap segment of the evening year road to UFC had to be sacrificed. Fair play to all the big winners, though. Etched in history.

for more on the road to UFC brackets we send it over to Chuck Meninol for a completely I wasn't even happened I just didn't watch You know it was interesting They brought in good in for the play-by-play for that one

Was it interesting? I mean usually Did they really? Did they really? Yeah they brought in good in for that but Cormier and Bisping did the color analyst and it comes in post-Rote to UFC

which you know they don't usually do It was very boxing-esque. John did well. He saw me he was doing the backstage interviews with Russ Pearson and all. He's very good at that stuff, man. Oh, that's another new wrinkle. I like the backstage with the coaches. Dana always said he hates the backstage with the fighters.

He doesn't like that they do in boxing, but they've introduced the coaches, which I like, but they play music under it. Second week in a row. It's like, do we just listen to the interview? Why do we have to have? Why does it have to be so overproduced, you know? You know, listen, we talk about the good and the bad

over here. Right guys? I do like the coach thing though. Coach thing is great. I hope they figured that out. Yeah. They actually sometimes give like better interviews than the fighters themselves in those moments at least, right?

Fiders themselves, what are they going to say? You know, well, you know about it. You've talked to these fighters. Sometimes guys will give you something, but very rare, right? We're in the 11th round of this fight. Chaucour's course, Stevenson on route to a victory. Most people have it 9 to 1 for Shakur.

So there you have it. By the way, great card over there at Madison Square Garden. Kishon Davis getting back on track, being a last second stoppage victory. Shushu Carrington with an incredible knockout victory. The talk of the town, of course, near Shushu, the pride of Brownsville, a great knockout for him. The talk of the town has been Jarrell Big Baby Miller's

hairpiece flying out. Man. Fucking helmet. I mean, really, he's speaking uncorro. ground into existence, right? I mean, that is uncrown. Did you hear his excuse for this, but away? No, I didn't.

This is crazy this show right here. So what would you say he said about this? What do you think has happened here? Like, is this a guy just saying, I'm going to get some hair glued onto my head to protect my, I don't, I'm not ready to come out as bald yet. Like, is that, is that what you imagine? This is happening here?

Who is this? This is Sky Nicholson. Oh, that's who was got. I saw this photo. Okay. Yes, who got the hair piece and put it on her own head, which I think is this absolutely. disgusting, if I'm being honest.

There was the one shot where he gets hit with the upper guy and he goes, it flies off. It was like a cartoon. It was like a cartoon. What you're trying to say, P-T? Yes, yes, yes, go ahead. What's the excuse? Right.

So I look at this and I see this happen. I was like, all right, well, big baby Miller does not want to tell the world that he's a bald man. And that's a lot of people in the world like that now and that's fine. Then he gets to Mike afterwards and he says, oh, it was in my mom's house and I put some weird bleach in my hair before this and it all fell out and then I got this done. What?

Did you know? No. Did you know Big Baby? Just own it. Big Baby Millian. I didn't understand the hair that's like that was left like what I didn't understand what was going on there. That's what they do. It's like he's been scalped. He's got the, he's got the crown. Oh my God. He looks

he looks like some sort of like those emperors in Greece. Like when they had the things around their head like with the you know with like the leaves. Yeah. That's what it looks like. Or like Julius Caesar. Didn't Julius Caesar have a haircut like that?

It's crazy. It's crazy that he's got like the fade leading up to that and then they went. You ever see those videos on, I don't know, maybe I'm fascinated by barbers. I get a lot of hair cutting videos fed to me and it's fascinating how they stick it on there. So much pressure for those barbers doing that, you know? You have one of them tattoos, don't you? People don't know that about you. You got one of them white girl on your hair.

Yeah, like Malik Scott. He's on the broad. podcast, his whole hairline is tattooed. Oh, shit. Who had that recently? Someone had that recently. Oh, Travis Barker. His, no, his whole head is...

Travis Barker? His whole, he's got like a hairline, but it's all tattoo. Bam Bam's a good shout. But Bam Bam had a little more fire coming down here. It wasn't like... This is like actually like... He opened the door, and Travis Bracker walked through. No, no, you're right.

Guys, as we round third here on this year program, it's 12.59 a.m. Eastern time. You should we're just starting. We're just starting usually. It's true. God, this is so much fun. Let's do an extra hour. Come on.

I did. Hey, by the way, back at the Spotify days, we'd go to the calls after the first hour. We were fucking crazy back then, I know. What the fuck is wrong with us? The one name we didn't mention, he did say it earlier in the week, do you think any chance it's Armand down to 1.45 for Volk? Is that the one? Armin said he'd moved down to 45. Volk said he would love it.

No, they don't want to give him anything. Like, why would they... They want to make him suffer. Make him suffer. Make him suffer. Make him suffer. Yeah, what a fascinating fight, though. Could you imagine? No.

Would they prefer Arm on over the other two guys that can't get title shots? I would think so. I don't think so. It's a vendetta situation right now. I don't think so. The boys have been completely sullied themselves like the arm and headbutting people out

press conference up. I mean, weigh ins and whatnot, you know what I mean? yeah a couple super chats here guys before we go I don't know when they came in I did see them oh here's one

the hard R Ariel drop would be crazy Frank don't don't get any ideas okay no definitely not happening a bunch of also maybe you could just

stop saying hard R I mean I was trying to it's not like a universal it's I'm trying to say that Maricio Hoofey and Rafael Fazeve. How else do you explain the...

Let's not get into this again. We got bogged down on this earlier. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Here's Mighty Zan who says audio and stream quality was A-plus. MF Poppy, take notes. Frank? Hell yeah. I don't know.

Are we not doing super chats? Do we not care about the people who pay at one o'clock in the morning? This is kind of a new thing, you know? I saw a bunch of super chats. I figured, you know, we should acknowledge them. I mean, you make me acknowledge 9.9. sent, you know, bills trolling on a Monday at 5.15.

From Mighty Zan, I see, it looks like 18 Australian flags. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Oh, here's Dozen Sam,

10 euros who says, didn't think Pip would, was a big deal, but I really need it. I would love selectable commentary to like TEP and others try to make their way up. No,

like, this is the whole point. You know Pip is. I know it is. I know it is. Please don't. All right. I know what it is. I fucking know what it is.

It's killing me. I know, I know. Can I tell you how desperate it's gone on for me? No. I got a new phone recently. I haven't sent back my other phone. So I was walking around with two phones. I had two phones.

I knew you would. As recommended by me. What was that, Frank? I said that you should be using two phones if this matters so much. Which does. I'm not saying that that's weird. It's over in MSG goes. Oh, what happened?

What happened? No, like, it's just guys. got, it's, it's, it's just gone the distance. But you can't say fights over, you say fights gone the distance, all right? Learn the terminology. Here's one more from Beal, Ezebubb, 513. Bezalbar. Ariel, give yourself the old Barry H that L bar was your doing.

So yeah, I had to explain to the UFC production staff. You could do something in the business that we like to call an L bar. And then the L comes here and you have like the adverts, you know? And I was like, guys, kill two birds. one stone. Give us the corner talk, but you've got the L-bar. It's sort of like this. Was that not me? I thought I said that, but, you know, on my L-bar on the brain. You never, we never stop with the L-Barras, you know. You know what I'm talking about, right? I saw it. I'm doing the, I'm doing the Larry Johnson, Chuck. You remember that, right?

Of course. Jens, what a day, what a day. Yeah. That's a marathon. Oh, it's been a great day. I'm just, I'm buying, our time because I feel like it will bother me. The OCD in me will bother until we could tell people the result of the boxing and then we could officially put a bow on this on Crown Saturday. I just wanted to tell you guys, I was doing a lot of research on the curling coming up in the Winter Olympics. Oh, shit, I love the curling. Love the curling. You know, the Norwegians are really gearing up for a big run. I think Ireland has four athletes going. So it's a big big group. Yeah, and one of them is from Norway.

actually two of them are from Norway I believe actually I listen to a podcast about the Irish athletes going and they just talked about figure skating which we aren't involved in for most of it but yeah no you're dead right I think our most hopeful position

is this Norwegian guy who's going to cross country hiking skis a Norwegian guy is your biggest hope yeah it's Maz from Cork apparently okay that works By the way, in the ring, Terence Crawford is like completely mocking Tiafima Lopez. He hasn't liked some of the things that Lopez has said, some controversial, insulting, dare I say, racists.

Terence thinks it's gone one way anyway. He's definitely acting like... Oh, he's dancing. He's dancing. He's dancing. Russ Anber over there, Montreal legend cornerman for the great Chaucor Stevenson. Chuck, as we wait the official scorecard, any final thoughts, Chuck? Any final thoughts?

Throw on to me before that, huh? Well, I'm trying to kill some time here. I don't know if you. It's bullshit. You're dead, right? And it's not in the spirit of final guns. If you want me to keep going, I'll keep going here. Listen, listen.

This is bringing home the parlay boys. Do not this win? I wanted to give a shout out because I know that you did too for Catherine O'Hara. What a sad thing that was, huh? That was very sad. These things happen sometimes and you're like, you're like, ah, well, older person, whatever. You know, like, you kind of move on. But there's something about.

her going back to the you know the sce tv days and all the way through her career that one hurt a little bit man and i know she's a canadian and she was a proud canadian and uh i knew that you uh you liked her too right like you're a fan oh my god home alone one of my favorite movies of all time i know man went to see four times in theaters uh she was like everyone's favorite mom and the fact that mcculley culkin would still call her mom when he when he saw her tremendous just 71 reinvented herself with Schitt's Creek that show that was a huge hit that show beautiful soul i saw a video of her popping up everywhere where someone in an airport asked her what her favorite role was and she just looked at the person like they were crazy and had three heads and said mother that was

my favorite role and uh what a beautiful lady yeah very very sad to hear that extremely sad very sad so i think i think both parents from home alone have uh have passed that Is that right? And at a fairly young age, let me make sure I got that right here because I'm going to feel awful. Pici, just stick with me here. Home Alone.

They've announced the winner to fight. Can we? You've seen Home Alone? John Hurd. You watch that? God, Piz. I am correct. Okay, thank God.

The winner of the fight is Shakor Stevenson. He is the new, Rayman magazine champion. He wins Vienemian. We just Google Home Alone here. We're hanging on for the winner of the fight. He's already being fucking answer me. It was elementary.

It was elementary at this point. You know? So shout out to Shakur, one of our favorites. I love that guy. And what's so funny? I'm sorry. Insensitive pizza. Are you sad?

What's going on? I can't tell if you're happy or sad right now. What's going on? The Irish grieve in their own way. This is the hell they creep. What's happening? I think. He's choked up about the whole thing.

Have you... Have I broken you? Yeah, it just happens sometimes in these late ones. You know, something just tickles you. Well, I do want to remind you, Shakur, now a four-division world champion. That's pretty incredible stuff, not bad, and a potential pound-for-pound grade at this point. One final thing, guys. One final thing, this is from a gentleman named Michael Carroll on X.

He's a great following. He does all the stats. is your dad's name Michael are we good oh man you almost got us out of here you all right he said dashed

he's like McCauley and Catherine when both matches are four this is an incredible stat keep it together you get very red when both

when both matches are for a belt. The male challenger in a title fight rematch from 125 to 155 pounds is now 2 and 11. So Diego Lopez would be one of the 11. The only victories were Henry Sehudo and his rematch with Demetrius Johnson and figurato in his rematch with Brandon Marino. That's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing stat. That is an amazing stat. Two and 11, PT. Ptie. Pee. Tell us all the 11 losses. I can't say anything at the moment, to be honest, I'm just, you know, it's emotional watching Shakuris-Davidson accomplished this.

Yeah, he's hilarious. All right, guys, it's 109. I mean, this is one of the earliest post shows, right? I mean, as far as endings are concerned. Well, this has been wild. It's not late. I'm going to go out. I'm going to go out.

What happens? What's going on? I don't know. I don't know. It's been a great day. What about that crowd in Riyadh? I mean, it looked jab back. There was been 150 people there.

A capacity crowd on head in the hotbed known as Riyadh for all things pro wrestling. But it was a great... Guys, MVP of Uncrowned Saturday. Who's the number one? Who's the number one star? Who me? Here's Frank. Oh, sorry.

Oh, Connor Ben in the ring now. Face-to-face with you. Wait, that's the feud that started on my show. That's what I was going to say. You started this, didn't you? They're face-to-face yelling at each other. You legit started this. I made this out of nothing.

There was no history between these guys. They're like three divisions apart. Look at this. Face-to-face. I made this. Oh, you instigating haters. Look at this. 43 years old.

This is good stuff. I'm not listening to it. Pete, are you watching this? Much of the facial expressions. and they're pretty intense. They're pretty intense. This is good stuff. Come on.

What's going to happen? They made friends at the end. They shouldn't have done that big. Signed the contract. Signed the contract. You remember that one? Mike Tyson and Bob Sap. Sign the contract, big boy.

What's happening? PT, I think you're ahead of me. Did something happen? I made that fight. I made that fight. I want 5% guys. I want 5% Turkey. Eddie.

It's only fair. I made that fight. Thank you very much for watching. Thank you to supporting us. Thank you to everyone out there, supporting us on Crown Saturday. Second annual in the books. Tremendous day. Hey, shout out to Shaheen and the whole dot-com squad.

You guys did a tremendous job, killing it number one on Google for all the events. Nice. And of course, shout out to the crew in New York. Shout out to the boys for another great watch party. I am back on Monday. One final show for me live until I head off to Italia, but much more of me. Don't worry. There's a little thing in the business that we like to call pre-tape, all right?

L-Barr, pre-tape, sotful, Vosot, B-roll, P-roll. I got terminology for days. Don't forget about Zupa Boxing. Tomorrow. Boxing tomorrow night. Oh my God, on Crown Saturday, bleeds into Sunday. It's unbelievable.

Now we've got the oompa-lupa in the cage or in the ring talking to Shakur over there. It's unbelievable. Good night. And we'll talk to you on Monday, guys.