The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC Qatar Post-Fight Show: Arman steamrolls Hooker, Garry dominates Belal; full card reaction

Episode Date: November 22, 2025

Ariel Helwani, Petesy Carroll, and Chuck Mindenhall give their immediate reactions to UFC Qatar, kicking things off with Arman Tsarukyan’s second-round submission of Dan Hooker (5:00).Next, the guys debate whether Ian Machado Garry’s decision win over Belal Muhammad in the co-main event is enough to earn him a title shot against pound-for-pound number one Islam Makhachev, and map out the rest of the welterweight division (22:45).Ariel and the guys then turn their attention to the rest of the card, highlighting the standout performances that caught their eye (42:30).A separate storyline emerged backstage, where Garry and Khamzat Chimaev were involved in a physical altercation.To wrap up the show, the trio break down the footage and what led to the clash (57:23).

Hello and welcome to our UFC Qatar post-fighter Hello and welcome to our UFC-Katar post-fight show. I'm Mario Hawani on a beautiful Saturday afternoon here in the northeast of the United States. This is tremendous. A 352 p.m. Eastern Time post show. Oh, my word. That is phenomenal. I am such a happy man right now. And that was a really great card.

We were talking before the event. Should we do a post show for this one? Should we not do a post show for this one? I thought it was a great card on paper. One of the best fight nights of the year on paper with a lot of stakes attached, especially to the top two fights. And I think the card from top to bottom, I think it delivered. The third to last UFC on ESPN card, it comes and goes. And it is, of course, headlined by Armant Surukian defeating Dan Hooker.

That's what happened in the main event. Second round, arm triangle choke. Very dominant first round for Armant Taruchin, who looked absolutely shredded, looked to be in phenomenal shape. Would you believe his first fight, his first win in MMA? He did have three grappling matches. this year. His first win in MMA since UFC 300 in April of 2024. Of course, he was supposed to fight for the belt back in January. He pulls out way in day due to the injured back. He's been sitting around, has been waiting, has been biting his time. Now he finally gets this opportunity.

Third to last show of the year. He thanks Dan Hooker for agreeing to fight him. He almost does the unthinkable at the ceremonial wands. He headbutts Hooker. Everything's okay. Back and forth they went. Great first round, frenetic pace. Hooker was game, went for a few guillotines, but especially in that second round, the way in which Armin scrambled out of it, got on top, full mount, and then went for the finish. We've seen some dominant performances this year where the dominant grappler did not go for the finish. It looked like Armin was trying to make a point, trying to go for the finish, his dad in attendance for the first time for one of his fight since 2019. Afterwards, he calls out Ilya to Poria. He gets on the microphone. He says,

pick me. I'm the toughest guy and I'll be ready to fight at the end of January. If you want to fight me on that schedule January 24th, first PLE in the Paramount Plus era, I could be that guy. So we'll talk about all of that. And of course, co-main event was a massive one, Ian Macheta Gary, the pride of not only Ireland, but Brazil as well going up against the former champion, Bilal Muhammad. Ian said he was going to knock him out. He guaranteed he would knock him out. It was a three-round fight. He did not knock him out, but he did win rather convincingly, I thought. 30 to 27 on two judges scorecards. One had a 29, 28. Afterwards, he said, I'm the number one guy in the division Islam. Come after me. You just saw what I did to Belal. 0 for seven as far as takedowns. You won't be

able to take me down. I'm the next guy in line. Shafkat Rahmanov, who beat Ian a year ago was in attendance. We'll see how he factors into everything. And of course, Kamar Usman out there as well. We'll get to that and everything else that transpired, a lot of great results. But it's not just me on this Saturday afternoon, my friends, back-to-back weeks for three pockets like the ringer MMA days around here. Oh, my word. We've got the mayor of the nutmeg state, aka the man in the hat. What is happening here?

What is going on with the black hoodie look? We didn't even plan this, but that's how in sync we all are. First I'll say, am I going to get this right? I'm going to get this. Oh, I got it right. Chuck Minanall in the house. Hello, Chuck. How are you? I'm all right. I think we'll get together for that burglary a little later on,

but this is great that we get this out of the way first early. Yeah, yeah. I swear, I swear, everyone, we did not plan on the black hoodie look, but that's the vibes on this Saturday, November 22nd. Pizzi has got to be a pig and shit. It is 8.56 p.m. over in E.A. He's the patron saint of the Emerald Dile. He is the host of the critically acclaimed podcast to crack the one and only Pee T. Caryl, pizzi what is the crack the crack is fantastic i mean i feel like the last two weekends we've had a lovely kind of welterweight moment a shelf cat showing up tonight fantastic timing given that we thought this was the last leg could gary do it as you said did he talk himself into a corner

with his own stipulation that he imposed on himself in the lead up to this way uh saying he needed to finish. I'm very excited to talk about all this. I'm wondering who you boys have as number one contender in both the welterweight and lightweight divisions. Well, that's a great way to set it up. And by the way, I keep laughing. Every time Andy, thank you to Andy for being here with us and Oscar as well

behind the scenes. Every time you go to the three shot of us in the hood, we're like a tag team trio. We're like a... They're not even any logos or anything. They're just straight black hoodies. It's so weird. It's like the same hoodie. I can't believe it. Chuck, what do you make of this situation? Because there is a jockeying position right now in the lightweight and welterweight divisions. Let's start with

the main event. Let's give Armin his flowers. Very dominant. He looked great. It was exact, look, maybe in the co-main, it wasn't what Ian needed, but in the main, dare I say, it was exactly what Armin needed to do. I thought he put an exclamation point on everything that's been happening to him over the past year. That was the perfect type of performance for him to come back with. What did you make of it? I thought it was the best he's looked. And obviously, like, it has been a long time and you know this business man it's like in a recency sense everybody's like well where is this guy they showed rakmanov and you're like oh yeah this guy still exists in that in the uh the welterweight division he should be considered too but when you don't see a guy

especially a guy who doesn't necessarily keep himself in the headlines when you see him show up in a situation like this drew some attention obviously with that headbut um in the way ends goes in there and basically i think put on one of his best performances if not his best looking Jack, like you said, just looking like he's transformed a little bit over the last whatever is 19 months, and then, you know, get a second round submission of a very tough guy who had been defying odds in his last couple of fights and I think was enjoying this kind of house money moment where he's just right back into fighting big names. To me, it was very impressive. I felt like there was a lot of pressure on this fight, especially with Paddy

Pimbled, just kind of in the wings all week in Qatar. Like, this is the exact performance I think that Armand needed to make the statement he did. Pizzi, we'll get to the next steps in a moment, but first, your reaction to how good Armin looked today. He looked fantastic, and I'll tell you what, I don't know if you guys are on the same page as me. When I saw the way he acted at that way in, when he threw the head into Hooker the way he did, I was like, is he rattled? Like, why are you acting like this? A guy who has been punished, let's be honest for his behavior with the UFC in terms of pulling out of that lay fight against Islam Makashv at the start of the year, thinking, is he cracking up here? Is he cracking up under the pressure? Right at the final

hurdle again, is he just falling over it? But I thought he answered any kind of doubts I had spectacularly tonight. He looked absolutely immense. You know, I understand why the UFC want to put Paddy Pimbley. Like, I could understand why they would want to put Patti Pimbley in a situation with Ilya. He's a huge star. He's massive in the UK. He's massive all over the world um but would i pick patty pimble to be arm and sarukin i would not based on that performance okay so here's the thing guys this is actually a gift from the gods or the ufc like this has all worked out so perfectly for them because look ilia hasn't fought since june he should be ready to go patty very clearly is ready to go he hasn't fought since april his win over michael

chanler the best way we continue to say of the people available the best way to debut the Paramount Plus era in 2026, first show of 2026, rumored to be at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, January 24th. I'm calling it a PLE numbered event. You know, they're going to keep those, you know, title fights on the number of events we suspect. The best way to start this is Ilya versus Patty. You just had Armin win, look good. He's now the number one guy. He's waiting in the wings. You bring him out there. And yet you keep this train rolling along. I'm sorry. There is zero momentum towards a Justin Gaichi title fight against Ilya to Poria. And now that Armand did what he did, I think he completely knocked Justin out of the way.

There is zero interest, zero momentum. I would sign up for Armand versus I versus Ilya right now. But I think you have Patty there. You want to strike while the iron is hot. He's ready to go. He hasn't fought since April. It's going to be almost a year since his last fight by the time this January date comes along. Do Ilya versus Patty.

You saw the little run in. You see the animosity there. Do that in January. Have Armin in the front row. He fights the winner, and now the lightweight division is back rolling like it was when Isam was champ. What do you think, Chuck? I agree. And I mean, honestly, if it happens, what did you say, January 24th is kind of a speculation?

If that happens, that is not so far off. That is two months away. And for, I appreciate that Armand basically qualified himself by saying, listen, I'm ready to go. If you want to fight in January, I'm ready. That was a smart move. But I'm with you 100%. I think, and it's not necessarily that you're just taking this. novelty of a Patty Pimlet fight.

At this point, the dude's 7 and O, and he has looked very good as he's kept going. So it's not like you're just throwing a guy in there, you know, busting up the meritocracy and throwing a guy in there who just doesn't deserve it. I still think that Patty maybe doesn't deserve as much as Armand, but like he is still, he still brings some danger element to that. So I like that. I love the idea of having the challenge. You know me, and we've talked about this many times, you love the idea of the dangling

carrot beyond it. So, like, if you do have Armand sitting there, wouldn't that be great? Because I think he just reminded everybody that he's going to be a problem. And honestly, man, he probably needs some shine again. I think the UFC needs to do a good job of, like, maybe getting behind Armand a little bit and juicing him up a little bit to get him ready for that gig. But right now, dude, you saw, like, I was, when I looked at, like, when Pimblit had that really brief moment, you know, with Toporia, where he's like, they're calling each other names from afar. don't you just kind of feel it it just feels destiny

that they've got to fight at this point absolutely it's like I feel like it's a win-win for the UFC to make the Paddy v. Ilya fight right now because these are both commodities if Ilya loses and Patty's the champion great he's a massive star already and a lot of people are doubting him

perfect situation is to put Armand against him if Ilya beats him as most people would predict he will that's a massive star moment for Ilya again because of Paddy's star power again leading to Armin And it's just, it's exactly what you're saying, Iriel, to make the biggest splash, and we know that's what they want to do. They want to come out swinging in this new TV deal. Best way to do it is Paddy Vee earlier.

So here's the one thing, Pizzi, let me ask you this. I was not expecting Armour to say, put me on that January card. And it is, it is very soon, but it is far enough to where, like, a two-month turnaround isn't crazy, especially when you didn't seem to get beat up all that bad in this fight. do you think there is a chance the UFC will reconsider or do you think they should do it as we're doing it continue with the Patty thing do that plan have arm in wait they were mad at him hopefully now you know he's back in their good graces

he was a great ambassador their first show in Qatar big deal for them or what do you think because like I have to say that was that was interesting he threw the curveball he seemed to know something there by specifically mentioning that date so what do you think oh yeah I had the feeling and the same as Patty did Like in the lead up to this fight, it's like, why isn't this announced yet?

I know a lot of people disagree with the fact that Patty Pimbley is in this spot or is even in this conversation, but he absolutely is. And we know in this day and age, excuse me, the UFC, the currency is spectacle, the currency is stardom, and he has all of that. So for me, for Armond to come in now in January, just him saying January, would say to me that the plan is already there with Patty. It's already been there. did they not announce it before this to allow this to have more stakes coming into Doha? Perhaps I don't think he's getting in Paddy's way of this.

I think the same as him, why hasn't this been announced yet? It seems like the natural fight to make. Well, maybe not the natural fight to make, but the obvious fight to make if you're the UFC. What do you think about this? Because you saw this, Chuck. He was talking to Hunter Campbell there afterwards.

Great moment with Armin and his dad and they mentioned first time since 2019. He's in attendance and he came to the cage. But Armin was very clearly speaking to Hunter Campbell in the in the front row cage side so what do you think you think they change their mind I don't think they'll change their mind but I do believe that he's probably like he's he's objecting right like he's saying like hey look you see what I did you want because the thing he pointed out in that post fight interview was like if you want the toughest fight I'm the toughest

fight and I think that that is his best argument there's going to be a segment of the population especially within the diehard sect that's going to echo that right that like this is the guy that should be facing him and there's no it's not wrong if he gets if he ends up getting that fight i would be perfectly happy with that i just think that given the circumstances they won't and i i agree with what p c was saying i agree with what you're inferring here is that it's probably already maybe not an indelible ink in the minds like of what's happening in the uc but i think that that's the fight they want they want to do the pimbleau fight and it makes complete sense i guess that means justin gaitchie's on the verge of retirement huh who is talking

about Justin Gaichi in this in this in this no one is answering just gaiji other than Justin Gaichi with a like well maybe he has a chance like he feels way further away from a total shot than even Kamara Usman who most people are poo-pooing as well right like yeah because Kamar Usen's at least a former champion right like he at least has that Gaichi has none of that yeah yeah it's he's not he's not in the conversation let's be honest he isn't by the way armatruching had not fought in 2025 like I said his last fight was in April of 2024. However, it is worth noting, and they flash this up on the screen, since 2019, tied for second most wins at 155 pounds, Islam 11, and Armin and Charles, who he beat

at UFC 300 with 10 wins, five-fight winning streak, and you would have to, you know, assume if he was fighting a little bit more since last April, he could have added a few to that. Of course, he was supposed to fight for the belt, and I wish we would have seen that fight. Now it feels like we're a little far away from that because Islam has moved up. But to me, that is such a fascinating fight, him versus Ilya. Worth noting, this is from Aaron Bronstetter, a great factoid from him. He just tweeted, if Ilya is matched up against Armin before next October, so October of 2026, I believe it would be the first undisputed title fight in the men's divisions between two fighters in their 20s since Holloway Ortega in December 2018.

I haven't verified this, but Aaron's pretty good with the factoids. That's pretty crazy. That would be eight years, essentially, since two guys in their 20s are fighting for a undisputed UFC title. 30s is the peak. 30s is where you want to face? I don't know. What does it tell us?

What does it tell us? I mean, you're telling me just an interest in factoid. Why is it interesting? One week after Chavachal 37 wins. One week later, he's like. I think it says a lot about how good these two guys are. I think it says a lot about the UFC. giving title shots to some of the older guys

and it takes a long time to get to the top and to earn and warrant those titles and I just think it's an interesting fact type you fucking asshole let him have his moment will you Jesus for God's sake this isn't the crack man you can't just interrupt the man it's a pretty good factoid

I don't know what you know this is great wow what the first time it's ready I did who has a better chance of beating Ilya Armin or Patty the smile on Chuck's face when I said that there's a little bit of me that's I'm intrigued you know I don't I don't count Patty out of it you know no no no no no no no no no he's

constantly constantly like overcoming doubters like years and years ago the the conversation with Patty Pimp was yeah okay like people like him but he's never going to get to the UFC he got injured like after after he lost a cageware his toilet and people were like I don't even think he was he'll be the Cage Warriors champion again. So it's like, it's always been doubt. He's got to the UFC now. He's not only in the UFC.

He's on the verge of fighting for a title. So he's constantly overcome with the odds. And he's a brilliant submission artist. Like he is a very unorthodox guy. I think I really, really good in the ground. I think he'll be a heavy favorite and rightfully so. But you definitely cannot rule to do it out. By the way, shout out.

I just want to say shout out to the chat. Thumbs up, thumbs up to the chat. I put up a poll right now, guys. Doing it all over here, okay? dealing with, I'm dealing with PTC's nonsense. I'm hosting this damn thing, moderating and putting up polls. That's incredible. New York, Rick, and wherever you may be, thanks for the help.

The question was, who should fight Ilya next? Okay. And as of right now, almost a little over 600 votes, Armin's 74%, Patty, 23%, Gachi 4%. Now, this might be a little, you know, recency bias. Right. But it's clear that the people so far want Armin. and I presume he's going to run away with this one. Chuck, what did you want to say there?

I don't remember, but I would say that. I will say that if you look at it, so you're asking about Patty, I think that it's easier to be like in a hype. If you're trying to hype the fight up, it would be easier for people to be like, oh, that's a cakewalk for Sarukin, right? Like, this should be easy. I mean, but if you look at like,

if you look at Sarukin is what I'm trying to say. If you look at Sarukin, you're going to have a little bit more of a balanced perception of like, okay, this guy presents doubt to the situation, right? We just saw him do this to a guy who's very tough. I think that that's all it is. You know, it's like there's a time when you want to see the best fight the best. I just think that we're just playing with such new players in all of this,

that why not do the thing that is, would draw the most eyes? You know what I mean? It's a different kind of scenario. I do want to say this, though, because I'm seeing some people saying, like I can't believe we are saying Patty deserves it more than Armin. That's not what I said. Patty does not deserve it more than Armin. And if you're asking me right now, there's an open slot, who would I want to see more?

It is Armin versus Ilya. And Armin deserves it because of the winning street because of everything that's happened and the time and the wins and everything that he's done over the last, you know, six or so years. But because it's all right there and you want to, like from a promotional and business standpoint, and let's not pretend that these factors don't go. into the decision making, start the Paramount Plus era with a very popular fighter challenging for the belt, and then you have him waiting. Don't have him fight anyone else. Armand has done enough. You have him waiting. He's got a history with both guys, and you have him fight the winner. Like, it's just, it's all right there as opposed to the only other thing that I could see. These are the other two options. If you really want to bypass Patty, which I don't think they do,

but if you really want to and you're going to listen to the people online, you'll then do Armand versus Ilya and you'll have Patty fight you'll do Armand versus Zillia and you have Patty fight Justin right and they could battle it out to see who is next. I don't think that makes sense but fine and by the way

I'd favor Patty in that fight I just have to be honest. The other factor is you do the other scenario in my opinion is you do Armand versus Ilya excuse me you do Ilya versus Patty Armand waits in the wings and then you ask yourself well what do you do with Justin

Gae? who is still a player at 155, I'd love to see them do Justin versus Hooker. That was the fight that was supposed to happen in March. I know Hooker's coming off a loss, but he has entered this territory like a Donald Serroney where I think that the wins and losses don't really matter as much.

He's fun. People love him. This fight week was fun. He fought valiantly today. He just met a tougher guy who was just absolutely dead set on winning. Gaichi has only won one fight in a row. They were supposed to fight back.

in March hooker got hurt do that one and see if Justin could try to earn his spot at the top of the at the top of the weight class I think 155 is very interesting and usually when a champion leaves you're kind of left with like some scraps I don't feel like they have scraps at 155 right now yeah and Gachi's not the one who should be dictating terms here and I know it's not exactly just him like if you go back to his career his trajectory this was a dude who'd fight 80 but he I think he originally was kind of like I'm just going to be the seroni of the division he wanted to kind to go in there and throw down with whoever and he didn't look at himself like he'd be long for the world in the ring you know like he was like I'm just going to go out there every fight

self-preservation throw it to the side it was only later that it became like more of a title you know and and and kind of pick and choose this is all kind of new but even given all that even all the favors he's done he's just not in a spot given the players that we have right now and where everybody is at to dictate the terms of what which had happened so he I'm sure they can find a good fight like you just mentioned. They can put them together with anybody and everybody will watch Justin Gaichy. He doesn't, you know what I mean? Like it doesn't have to be again

in the title for the fans to appreciate what he's going to do. All right. Well, let's see. Let's see guys. I think that the lightweight division is very interesting and hopefully, I mean as of right now, by the way, Paramount Plus era is about to start in January. There's only two more events left

in the ESPN era as crazy as that is, the pay-per-view on the 6th and then the 13th Apex show. There hasn't been a single event or fight announced or even like reported on for the new era for 2026 so it's been very very quiet i do wonder how they're going to unveil all of this um but it's not just the the the first PLE or numbered show main event it's nothing there's nothing out there right now let's talk how excited though you mentioned this and i i think it should be talked about like and just briefly but like the finale being that big apex show how excited oh yeah for that

like bells and whistles right for this thing i have i have a great idea for that one and so i'm going to get to that okay all right come back not to not to get crazy because i want to talk about the the uh the welter rate division this has been the uh the month of the welter rates uh the big gabriel bonfam win at the start of the month and then of course last week in madison square garden new york city uh you had the big win by michael morales you had the big win by carlos preaches you had isama of becoming the new welterweight champion. And we always said the last sort of piece of this big welterweight tournament month was Ian Machado, Gary versus Bilal Muhammad.

I think I was the first person to speak to Ian when this fight was announced. And he just emphatically, he emphatically predicted, he said it multiple times, it's knock out or bust. I got to knock him out and I will knock him out. And he was so convinced and he was so adamant about it. And then after last week's performances by Morales and by Pratchez and all the chatter coming out of Kamar Usman, it did feel like he had to knock him out in order to kind of keep pace with those other youngsters, right? Shafkat sitting in the front row, he had to knock him out. In the end, he did not knock him out. In the end, very early on, the cut which Balal sustained in the JDM fight did open up. there was an eye poke a point deduction wasn't taken away there you see below reacting to it all

second round there appeared to be another eye poke that one was a little more a little tougher to actually see the first one was was a definite no points were taken away by the referee but as far as scoring the action it was 30 to 27 in my opinion like i said two judges had it that way one judge had it 29 28 pt i'll ask you first what did you think of Ian's performance three-round fight, not a five-round fight, which I could have definitely seen this fight going five and would have loved to have seen it. What did you think of the performance by the Irishman? I thought it was a very clinical performance as we've become accustomed to it, Ian. He won every round as far as I was concerned. He's won the toughest fight.

We were just talking about this. Like, he has won the toughest fight. Michael Morales beat Sean Brady, who lost to Bilal al-Mohamed. Carlos Pratchez. who lost to Ian Gary, don't forget, he beat Leon Edwards, who lost to Bilal Muhammad. He's the closest guy to the title that isn't Jack Della Madalena, who's just lost the title. I think all of that makes sense, but the problem is Ian's given the UFC and out not to pick him. Because of him kind of implying that, I know I need this finish, and I know he kind of walked that back afterwards, and I thought he made a great argument for himself afterwards by saying, can you take me down Islam?

I think he's one the toughest fight, but differing to, Armin, I wonder, is he the guy that compels the most interest for Islam? You know, like, whether, whether people like Ian or don't like him, they all seem to react to him. Like, I was looking at the numbers from the various sites who cover this event this week. He did more traffic than anyone. Like, people are watching this guy. They're intrigued about it.

I know he got booed there tonight and, you know, people are, like, seem to be indifferent about it online, but he felt like the main event, me. I mean, it felt like the main, right? yeah absolutely so i mean that's where he differs from armin he might be the most captivating dan's partner for islam at this point despite him not getting that finish and it's hard man i know that he put like i understand what you're saying like you went on there he said i'm going to finish this guy but that's a tough dude to finish man this is a guy who stood in there against everybody mohammaud and i think it was vicente luke right like way a long time ago and the only guy to

ever finish him so that was a that type of demand you almost have to say like okay i understand your intentions. I don't hold it against him. I know he wanted to. There was a couple times where I thought he might. It looked like he kind of got a shot flush. It's just he's fighting a guy who's just that tough. And in my mind, it's really just his evolution and his understanding of the big picture. Like even in the lead up to this week, like the way he was kind of holding court out there and just kind of, you know, commanding the attention. You saw him on the microphone afterwards. This is a guy who was very polarizing earlier. We were talking about can he even repair an image at one point, like, you know, people are coming after him in

different ways personally and all this stuff. This is a dude whose mental, like, his ability to overcome that, which was something we wanted to know about him is off the charts, including when he beat Carlos Prochis on like a few weeks notice, whatever that was. It was kind of a rearranged card for Kansas. He goes in there and he wins that one. They're not easy fights, but you give him a full training camp. I'm telling you, man, that's the fight to make still, because he did go the hardest route. I think he deserves it. And there is something. about him that I don't want to sleep on either. Like, you know, it may seem like, because we watch, we just watched last week, you just

watched Islam do work. It may seem like he's going to go right through a guy like Ian Garrett, but that kind of self-belief in your ability to see yourself as a champion is like, it speaks volumes, man, and I think he's upheld himself so well through all of that. He's, he's very talented, he's young, he's steadfast in his, in his beliefs. He look really good today, and I wish he didn't put that pressure on himself that he needed, because that creates the narrative. You know, it's very hard to finish Bilal Muhammad.

He is a former champion for a reason, very tough, very durable, but he looked great. Give all the credit in the world to Ian. Stuff seven takedowns. Bilal was 0 for seven. Now, to put out like, hey, this guy couldn't take me down Islam, you won't be able to do so either, obviously brings up the JDM fight in which JDM had a lot of success in stuffing Balal's takedowns, and then, of course, we saw what happened last week. So 1 plus 1 doesn't necessarily equal to.

But Ian's striking look crisp, and I thought it was a great performance. And I believe that his, as you guys said, his strength of schedule has been the toughest. He has taken the toughest road to get here. It's now a five horse race. It's a five horse race. And everyone has a say in the matter. And by the way, thanks to the team behind the season, I have put up a poll. Don't worry about it.

I put up a pull. Who should fight Islam next? Now, the YouTube polls only give us four options, okay? So commiserations to Shafkat. Wow. I don't know if he gets it, but I wanted to put the four guys who have been the most active this year. Ian Machado, Gary, Carlos Prachis, Michael Morales, Kamaro U.S.man, and the fifth would be Shafkat. Shafkat is 19 and O.

Obviously, undefeated into UFC. Michael Morales, 19 and O, coming off that incredible win over Sean Brady. Carlos Prachis has done a great job of bouncing back from the loss to EFC. Ian in April. He's now two and own his last two, the incredible knockout of Jeff Neal and then the win over knockout win over Leon Edwards. And then of course, the Usman one, the Kamar Usman one is an interesting one because he is a former champion, but only has one win since 2021. But that one win was over Joaquin Buckley, a top 10 guy and that was back in June. And so I feel like, Chuck, I feel like every single one of these guys has, there's, I don't, I don't know if anyone

breaks out. If it was up to me, I think Ian, due to has activity and the strength of schedule if we're not going to give it to shuff cut because he's been out because of course shuff cut should trump him it feels like it should be ian but i really can see them going in any direction and i feel and i feel because iian didn't get an emphatic knockout win i still feel like they're going to give it to usman they're going to listen to no islam and ali and they're going to give it to kamar usman he's not even he can't even fit in your five uh person poll like usma's so far down there he doesn't even fit in that how is that how would that work i i think it's actually shove cut

that I put out of the five but I just I know but I know Usman's not in there either right like you didn't do it in the five he is he is in the five it's it's it's Ian Gary Carlos Pretches Kamar Usman

Michael Morales and Shuffman that's some bullshit though I don't I don't see that one man like I mean if they do that it just feel this would feel so like I don't know what manufactured or something it would not feel organic

or like any of this Grand Prix that we're talking about really had a bearing Ian Gary went in as the backup fighter Did his weight cut like what was it not too long after that process fight it's crazy to me like his his path When you really think of it if they're not going to give it to that guy in this situation And again he has the victory over process which he's among the the guys we're talking about here I just don't know what you do I in a weird way I'm like the Morales one would be last on this list only because he's so young and I'm like why not give him another

huge showcase headlining fight before you even put him into a spot like that because I feel like he like this felt like his first phenom moment right like where you're like okay we're starting to see exactly what we got with this guy but now you kind of capitalize on it put him in a fight where you really slam dunk it and you make him a real contender in that sense I'm okay with them pushing him aside and Carlos Prachis should be behind you and Gary I just don't if Usman leapfrogs this field it's going to feel all wrong to me like this would take something that was really exciting, really exciting with all these guys and then make it dramatically less so with that.

Could you do, right? If you, right, say that happens, okay, we all don't agree with it. But say Usman gets the shot, do you put Gary against Morales then? That's a horrible bad for him. That's a, like, it's crazy. Yeah, I would be like trying to kill him off from the contenders list a little bit. Yeah, I mean, it's what they did to Sean Brady. P.T.

rank the five for me. right now. Rank the five for me in terms of deserving. The five, once again, are, and I put up the poll right now, Ian Gary, 52%, Pratchez 6%, Morales, 25%, Usman 16. Rank the five for me. Are you saying, like, just in terms of meritocracy, take out of account what the UFC might like, just in terms. Yeah, yeah, just as like, make the cue for me, right? Shavkat, Ian Garry, Morales, Pratchez, Usman. Wow, Usman, all the way. The guy who's at the bar. bottom of your list.

Actually, show what, no, I'll go Morales, Usman, Pratchez, maybe. I mean, interchangeable. It's tough. What do you think, Chuck? I agree. Who's at the top there? I agree. You put you off that first?

I would. I would, because I feel like that dude is like the one guy that would be just so fascinating in the scenario. The rest of them are, too, but like, more fascinating than the rest. I would put him, number one, Ian Gary, probably Pratchis, and then I might go Usman. But I'm upset, and I put Morales at the bottom, only because I'm like, you, I feel like we've seen some we've seen some pretty phenomenal stuff but i feel like he's not quite as decorated in that way yet he's a phenom like the youngest he represents a country that has never

had a champion he's got all this upside i just feel like you can get more out of him before you have to put him in that spot okay you know what here's the thing now that i think about it we're like we're sort of hard i think because shuff cut has been injured and and and it's been high profile stuff the truth is like here we are saying, you know, give the title shot to Patty. Patty hasn't fought since April. By the time, okay, it won't be as long. But, like, people have gone title shots being out for a year or so, right? So it's not, it's not the craziest thing in the world.

By the time the, the, no, if they fight in January. Point is, maybe the move is Shafkat versus Islam. Wow. Ian versus Camaro. Yeah. Prochess Morales. I like Ian versus Usman. I think that's a great.

idea to be honest because there's a bit of history there by the way you know they used to train together over at that's right yeah yeah yeah I do like that I doubt Oussman does though I really like if Ousspan is like you know I'm about to fight for a title you know I saw the tweets in the aftermath you know they're putting up the yawning emoji Henry Sehudo out of nowhere came in to back him as well which is very unexpected wow yeah wow that's actually shocking um but like he's not going to want to fight Ian Gary Ian Gary looks like right on a scale of who you don't want to fight at welterweight now if you're not fighting for the title it's morales and i and gary are the ones you're like get the i am not fucking going here those lads

because they look like they are ready to challenge right i don't think he's going to fight down i don't think i think i think uzman and look he is one of the greatest welterweights of all time he went on one of the greatest runs of all time nobody is taking that away from him but i just don't see him saying i'm going to fight in another number one can't fight right now i just can't see it if if they did the third fight that you were talking about there, of Prochus and Morales, can you think of a,

can you think of the equivalent of that? What was, what would the equivalent of that fight be that we've seen? Because you have, you have two dudes who like are, as high as you can get right at this moment, right? In terms of contendorship where they're like, they bring a lot to the table.

They both go for finishes. They both have attitudes of just like, I'm going to rip this dudes out of. Then now you get a sniper versus sniper matchup. I mean, have we seen anything like that from just a strictly non-title fight like that would be absurd that'd be insane which one diaz conduct back in the day maybe the foy gsp yeah they were they were a lot older like these two guys i mean yeah that's fair yeah that's

walterweight is so good right now welterweight is so good and that and that's why the uspan thing annoys me because usman like i said earlier this week comes from the era where i feel like you win one fight and you're you demand a title shot and and these guys i don't feel like are cut from that cloth and they're all young they're all he has that out too so like what's the common thread with these guys like where are they getting this weird weird go on chuck keep going keep going i think they're both good friends with henry sahuta ah there it is thank you peter he finishes all my sentences do you think ptze do you think ian would have gotten it and we don't know what's going to happen but like had he knocked him out do you think he would

have gotten it you think so wow i'd love to see e m versus islam i really would i think it's a great matchup he's a really interesting start of fighting he and those like Like, that's the one thing. People, like, you can say whatever the fuck you want about Ian. Like, you know, you don't have to like him. Like, you don't have to, but you have to acknowledge how good he is. And you have to acknowledge that guys look incredibly different when they're fighting in Gary as opposed to anyone else.

He's a really fucking difficult puzzle to solve. Look at Pratchez. Pratchez, it took him 24 minutes to land something meaningful on Ian Gary. And that's a guy who went in against Leon Edwards, a great striker. Again, regardless of what you think of him, one of the greatest fighters, the UK has ever produced arguably one of the best he starched him Ian Gary is a nightmare for people he he reminds me of John Jones Ian Gary reminds me of John Jones tall yeah and the obliquicks tonight were like that

as well he he is unbelievable and I would love to see that fight and I just think and I don't think this is the first time he's done this where he's kind of talked himself into a bad situation by putting so much pressure on himself and stating like this is what I need to do to get this and then not coming through with it like I think he does a good bit of that but it's also great marketing like everyone's watching this fight knowing that like he's after saying himself that he needs to finish

this fight like obviously it didn't work out in his favor but I don't know man I think he's absolutely incredible I think his him and Morales have the most interest in soil matchup for Islam as far as I'm concerned it feels like the great turning of the page too in the sense of like last week Leon this week Belal

and you those guys both those guys had to like really persevere to end up as champions to be in with and now they're kind of being like okay you're being left behind from this new from this new you know all the new blood in this division and I think that's part of why you're like well wait a minute are we really going to brush off Usman and throw them back in there like this is that moment where like everybody's all these guys are on the rise you know you kind of don't want to revisit you know something that we've already been through that division has been has had multiple

times where it's been stuck kind of in like these weird point this is that point where it's like it's all full-fledged ahead new guys. And that's exciting. That's what makes it fun. 100%. Lightweight and welterweight. To me, right now are two of the best. I would throw bantamate,

but right now I think lightweight and welterweight have the superstars on top. I hope they are active champions because there's a litany of guys below them. Like, man, Armand versus Ilya would be insane. Patty versus Zillia would be insane. Ian versus Islam would be insane. Morales and Prattis.

These are big time fights. Yes, Piz. one thing he right so i was saying earlier about ean like is he the most captivating matchup they can make like we're saying the ufc will likely go to patty because it creates the most eyeballs is that oosman's argument here like usman as a former champion is he the most recognizable guy no no but usman is not even in the same stratosphere as patty pimblit in terms of popularity who is then the welter way am i right saying it's gary i think i think i think shavkat has a loyal fan base but i don't

know i mean man michael morales has exploded but he's in one region i don't know if there's anyone like patty patty's one of the most popular fighters and recognizable fighters in the entire sport i don't know if there's a you know a one for one there but but it ain't kamar usman i can tell you that even would be the closest in my mind yeah you know i don't know shuffka's pretty popular too yeah he's in a certain region right um and then the best thing about the the Ian thing. I mean, the layup is, I mean, you get to reignite Ireland versus Dagestan. I mean, it's just a lamp. Don't fuck yourself with that shit, okay? You can't be doing this. It's late, all right?

It's not that late. It's not that late. It's dinner time. It's literally dinner time. I thought he was going to bring it up on the mic. I thought he was this close to saying it. This is the thing, right? Like, you're right in terms of they will use that. I have to acknowledge that, okay? You were right. You said, will the UFC tap into this? Absolutely they will. Yes, yes. The problem, The problem is, like, especially the way to PFL use it the first time around with Hughes v. Usman Amaga made of, to claim that, like, Ireland has this thing with Dagestan, where we're like, oh, here we go, the age old classic, Dagestan v.R. It's just not true. Like, no one cares. No one. No one says that, by the way. You've made this up. No, no. Literally no. The PFL were like, will he fight back for his friend? The biggest, the biggest rivalry in the history of the sport happened to be a guy from Ireland fighting. a guy from Dagestan.

And so if you happen to have two people who come from those nations, yeah, it's a promotional layup to reignite it. It's not that big of a stretch. I'm sorry to say. It's two random parts of the world that freaking hated each other. Come over here with a microphone and just quiz people on what they think of Dagestan. Most people are like, where? No one's saying that.

Denial is the first step of that grief, man. I believe you'd say that's. I really hate them, okay? I was like, I hate them. No one's ever claimed that. Rip his head off in. And those two guys. hate each other and it just so happens that

the next two guys are tied to those two guys. Oh yeah, and can I just say Ian at the press conference was like oh, it's 3 and 0, it's way more than 3 and 0, dude. It is way more. You know the PFL fights they've had against Overs? That is true. It's fucking 12-0, okay? So I don't think

we're sitting at home going, if we get this one back I think it's going to level the playing field. Put Ardom on the card. Yeah, yeah. Let's go. Let's finish that one up. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Gentlemen, let's talk. Can we go through the rest of the card here real quickly. Volcanozdemir, no time, the pride

of Switzerland, with an incredible first round knockout. I mean, just a barrage, a standing Oh my God, old school. He too looked to be in phenomenal shape. Shout out to Volcanozumir defeating Alonzo Menafield. McTabek-Oroby

with the, another great, I mean, there was a lot of great stoppages. I haven't seen who the performance bonus winners were, but there was, I mean, there was like at least like six or seven, I thought worthy candidates defeating Jack Hermanson he too looked to be in phenomenal shape

I don't know what was going on over there in Qatar but all the old timers look to be in tremendous shape. They're all trying creatine for the first time. That too, that too. What about a week after Ethan Ewing accepts a fight

on 48 hours notice? Now he flew from California to New York City. There's fan favorite Waldo Cortez Acosta flying from the Dominican Republic to Qatar. How long is that flight? Dominican Republic to Qatar

on, he arrives Friday morning. Friday morning, guys. He arrives, like, how did this become a thing in the UFC where guys are just arriving the morning of the way? It's just like Ethan. Reminds me of a Coley and Parker, right? Well, that happened. Yes, all of a sudden

this is a thing. His fifth fight of 2025, he's now four and one in 2025, uh, three weeks after he got poked in the eye by Antidellia and then came back and knocked him out. He knocks out Shamil Gazeve in the first round. Waldo Cortez-A-Costa, one of the most unlikely, I don't know,

fan favorites now in the heavyweight division. He knocks him out at 122 of the first round. I'll go through the rest of the card because there were really some great performances. And one that you can add to that list is the return of Kiyogi Horaguchi, fan favorite from Japan, obviously was a part of the UFC for many years, left nine years ago. His first fight in the UFC, nine years. His only loss in the UFC was to the great Demetrius Johnson in Montreal, a title fight, which he lost via Arm Bar. Here he is coming back after a stint in Risen and Belator. He comes back and looks phenomenal

against Tajir Ulan Bekhov and then cuts maybe the promo of the year, calls out his teammate Alishandar Pantosha. Sounds like a villain. We've never heard him speak English before. I reached out to Dan Lambert, the owner of ATT, where both Pantosia and Kioji both train. And I said, were you surprised that he called out his team? He said, absolutely not. In fact, this was the first time that he had Pohompa, Pantosha's head coach, in his corner as well,

and he calls him the evil boss. That's the way Kiyoji rolls. It's all pro wrestling. Yes, I love it. So Kioji Haraguchi with the big win, and now once again, a contender at 125 pounds. Luke Riley with the big win as well. improving to 12-0

with Patty Pimblit in his corner over Bogdan Grad. Nicholas Dalby with the split decision win over Sajid. Izag Gachmev. Yeah. Maybe.

Asu Alambayev with the guillotine choke win over Alex Perez in the third round, 22 seconds. Abdul Rahman Yachyaev the Hafeel Sarkara.

He's glad he's doing this, right? He's a hairball. Hachmah. Alessandre of Toporia, thank you, beat Bexec al-Machan. In the, well, not in the first round. It was via unanimous decision. I caught myself there. Ismail Narduev with a great right-hand knockout.

First round over Ryan Loder. Narulov won the unanimous decision over Shemrock in his debut. And Denzel Freeman won the Kern-Jurker of Unanimous Decision as well. Chuck, a lot of great performances here. Where to begin? Where to begin? Who do you want to highlight? What happened to Shimrock?

Rock Root Pizzi? Come on. What about your boy, Pizzi? Speak for Shem. It's, that was a nightmare matchup, right? You're going to get a 10 and 0 fucking wrestler. Like, you're coming to a guy who like gets submission wins, his debut. You know, it's interesting because

you know, it felt like a big knife for next gen. Luke Roiley, a fantastic prospect. And Shem, obviously, doing great things with Octagon. They gave Luke an opponent where you're like, he could do work against Bogdan. Like, everyone who's watched Royley has been like, wow, that's a nice

matchup for Royley. He could get a signature K-O in this debut. Then you see who they've put Shamrock against and you're like, well, that is the opposite of that. That is one of the last people that you'd want to make your debut against. And a feel for him. Like, you know, you dream your whole

life again to this moment, as people know, as Chuck has been talking about, he went on the lamb. Seven years. Yeah, that's right. He's very interested in that story. It's tough and you can see him posting his saying he's putting his shorts and his gloves up for sale that's when I'm like, I don't think the

USC are going to love that buddy. I don't think the USC are going to love that one. You know, um, but I get it. He wants to boy his man, new gaff, don't we all? Respect. Petey? Was that the guy you wanted to highlight? Because I know, like, Chuck was highlighting Shem losing. Yeah.

Which was a weird one after all. Well, can I, can I give you my role? Can I give you my role? Um, I got it. Dude, every time I think that Nicholas Dalby is going to go away, he does this and this actually kind of goes back to his fight with uh darren till like where he was getting just crushed it was like two rounds to another and he comes back dominates the last round for a 10-8 somehow it gets a draw this seemed to me i did this whole piece on this like

this is crazy perseverance right like to come back and do this thing kind of emblematic of this guy and he's had a couple of you know deep moments in his life where i think he goes into depressions and he comes back out and then he does stuff like this it wasn't the most impressive thing it wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing thing, but for him to get a victory at 41 years old, in this situation, I guess one of those guys from that part of the world who wanted to like,

you know, who usually dictate control of a, of a fight like this, that was really impressive to me. I was like, man, this guy, 41 years old, we never seen the praises of Nicholas Dalby,

but that guy deserves his flower sue. 100%. By the way. He's an absolute savage. I remember your story on him. Remember that fight, the cage warriors fight with all the blood? He was just him.

Yes. Yeah. Waldo Cortez Acosta bonus, Kioji Harguchi bonus, Turukin bonus, Luke Riley bonus, all their first time winning a bonus. What about Waldo? Can we give Waldo's flowers? I mean, this guy is crazy. Are we getting Waldo versus Tom Aspinol in 2026?

Probably. Is this a leapfrogs Cyril Gan? Wait, wait, wait, wait, I thought you had a. I thought you were going to say this was. I thought you were saving your apex thing for him. Oh, yeah. Okay. That is true.

The last, because, you know, it was interesting. He got on the microphone, and he said, put me on the December 13th card. He didn't say December 6. He didn't say the bedroom. He said, put me on December. Yeah, because I tweeted out. Like, I'll look forward to seeing him, you know, on the, on the, on the pay-per-view. And he's like, he basically said that same thing, but he wanted the apex card, right?

Yo, give it to him. Just throw another one on there. Who cares? Throw another one on there. Make it the main event. I don't care who he fights. By the way, sign me up for Waldo Cortez Acosta versus Derek Lewis. I thought that same thing.

I thought that same thing. They not thought already. It feels like it could have happened just. I don't think so. I don't think so. Sign me up for that. That would be. Just don't have Derek on your show beforehand.

Have Waldo. That would be better. I mean, last one was so good though. Yeah, no, it was great. It was great. Yo, your man, you're crazy how many he's fought.

What, what's that? That dude that made his debut, Yak Yoyev 8-0. You did a better job pronouncing his name. He just came in and smashed his Brazilian dude. And I'm like, wow, very explosive. He subbed him actually, but he knocked him down early. He seems to have made a real impression on you.

You don't even know his name. Abdul Rachman Yakyaev. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The pride of Turkey. That's it. That's what I'm saying. That's right.

Come on. It's crazy. I've given you guys multiple opportunities to shout people out. And no one wants to talk about Kiyogi coming back. I mean, with the promo. You did it. That was your one. Like, what can we say after?

I was leaving it for you. Is Kioji next in line? Yeah, yeah. Floyd has nobody. Like, he's straight up. He's in the mix. Immediately. Brandon Royval, I don't know.

He's fresh. He's in the mix immediately. Is he fighting? I mean, if, if Pantosia wins, you've got a tremendous story there, right? I mean, like, just the fact that he comes back to the UFC and calls out his teammate, you had to know somewhere Dana White was just, like, foaming at the mouth. Like, this is his dream. This is his dream.

He's calling out his teammate. Are you kidding me? Yeah. And then if Van wins, I don't know. know, maybe Pantosha gets an immediate rematch given how good he's been, but I kind of feel like there's just been a lot of the same guys at the top of flyweight. You know, Moreno's there, Royval's there. Amir al-Bazi hasn't gotten his shot yet, but I just feel like, man. Was it the Horoguchi? So the Demetrius fight happened in Montreal, right? Like we were, I remember

we were there. It was very cold. But was that the, it was 186. So that was the same one of like Rampage and Maldonado and all that. It's funny because at the time it was happening, I was like, this would be one of the most forgettable cards I go to and sense of like the card wasn't good. But I never shake. We were talking about this little bit on the crack that one, like a second left on the clock, right, when Demetrius wins that fight. Wasn't that the one? Like he wins it like with a second to go. And it was like, for whatever reason, that's like, it's always stuck in my head.

So there is a, I guess I've always had like this romantic notion of Horaguchi. So like seeing him come in there. And in a fight, I was like, I was fairly convinced because he's like 35. you're coming back, you're going to, it felt to me like it's one of those fights you're like, if you want to come back, we're going to put you against that, you know, vicious thing that's pacing back and forth behind that cage there. And to watch him dictate the fight the way he did, that was pretty impressive, wasn't it? I mean, I felt like the dude looked better than ever. So it's like the count of Monte Cristo coming back. It's like, you put, if they wanted to

book him into a title fight after that performance and coming into that situation, I'd be like, go for it, man. I agree. I agree. By the way, supremely. supremely popular like he posted something he posted something and had like 9,000 likes within an hour when he said like thank you to everyone for the support so there's a lot of people who are behind him in Japan it's a great story he left

he came by the way when he left he was on like a four fight winning streak too it's not like he got cut he left and signed with Risen for whatever reason they talked about a great story about him living at the dorms there's a Horoguchi hall because he stayed at the dorm for so long at AT&T, but did I call it AT&T?

ATT. He has since gotten married, and it sounds like he has a new home. So life is good for one, Keoggi-Huraguchi. Now, I want to send something into our Slack chat. I don't know, on these, do we have the ability to play videos or do we not? Am I asking for too much? I don't know if to... Yeah, thank you. But you...

No problem, no problem. I'm sending something over here because I'm looking on social media for us. updates and it seems like there was a little bit of a shoving match between Hamza Tchamayev and Ian Machado Gary in the back that was caught on camera. It seems like... Title shot. Pushed a piece. That's all we need, baby.

Ptis desks just came up. That's what we need. We need a viral moment. At 185? At 185? No, that doesn't matter who it's with. I mean, we're just talking about views here. He's getting the people, he's getting the juices flown.

This is what the people want. Well, Ian's holding court right now at the post-fight press conference. He says, with my friends in Georgia, we're going to stop the Russians from having their success. We're going to stop the Dagestanis and we're going to take Islam's head clean off his shoulders. That's how all Irish feel about the Dagestanians, by the way.

See? I told you. That's going great. He said, we're talking about the greatest combat sports industry in the world right now, the UFC, all these other Mickey Mouse organizations, they don't have shit on the UFC. No one, no one, the greatest fighter in the world is the guy who holds the UFC belt. They're going to take that.

They're going to take that. UFC belt out and, and, and, and replace it with Zufa belt, and they're going to let the boxers know that this is the title that you need to go after. Hmm. That's the mindset, right? Hang on. What, what was the, what was the, what was the greatest organization? What?

I think he was, I think, respectfully, he was just D1 glazing the UFC. I was like, what is this going? It's like, NFL catching some strays here. I'm only just not computing things today. By the way. By the way. The bronze center tweet, now this. I'm like, what, where are we going?

He has been consistent. You recall. Many moons ago, he was asked about fighting in Bellator, and he was like, nah, if Bellator, I want to be in the UFC. So he has been consistent. But why are they asking him about that? Like, is there a contract on the table from the BFL? Like, what's going on? I think he's just saying he wants to fight for the bell.

He also did say in his post-fight interview, one of my favorites. He said, sign the contract. Does that suggest that a contract? That is a good point. Has it been issued? Has the contract been issued to Islam? I'd say so. You think so, based on that comment.

In case you're wondering, by the way, he's at 53. percent of Morales is at 24 Pratchez at 7 percent Usman at 16. Ian's on top. Yeah. How about that? Now do Ian v. Shavka. Do Ian v. Shavka? All right, right. Real quick, real quick. That's all. Five minutes max. Do you guys, can you just talk about something while I do this? Because it's not very fun. The way he was talking, he made it sound like he was really good at this joke. Look at the concentration on his face. Wow. He's going to him. He sneaks at him when we get long wind. When we get long winded, he does like five things, man. He's got like a grocery list drawn out when I'm like. No problem.

Check the Syracuse football score, losing 42-0. No problem. Ben's Gris against Montana State. They're also losing going into the final quarter. He's having a rough time. Four people on the planet care about that one. Shout out to Nottingham Forest though. Big win, Pizzi.

Nottingham Forrest, big win today. Shout out to Jow, Vitor, Sab, who sends in a super chat and says, do you think he got the title shot? Unfortunately, Jow, I don't know who you're talking about. Usman, yes. Usman, Camaro. I wish you could tell you. Right, so Liverpool played

Forest today. Forest Cammerton. I'm aware. 3-0, yeah. Your boys. My friend Colin Morrisrow went over to Anfield for his birthday today. Big Liverpool fan. Saw them stands very empty.

I wonder if Colin, Jack Dunphy was there, Mark Ward. I wonder if they left too. I mean, what kind of fans would you say they are, Ariel, if they left early? Plastic. Plastic fans. Wow.

They don't deserve to be at Enfield. But I'm happy that they got to witness the best team in the prem. Absolutely lay the freaking smackdown. By the way, second time in a row. Last year, beat him 1-0, this time, 3-0. Back-to-back wins. Didn't concede. Chuck, what do you know about the prem?

I don't know about the Prem? I don't know. I'm just reiterating. Chuck knows about the Prem. He's coming. I don't even know that. It's coming. I don't know.

Well, guys, it was as dominant as Ian Machado Gary against Bilal Muhammad. it. And then in the aftermath, in the aftermath, Ian and Hamsat Shamaev had a little run. And let's watch it together. Here we go. Yes. See if Ian's Instagram. Okay. There's talking. Oh, a little, okay. A little slap there. No, no, no, no, no. There's more. There's more. Ian's like, what's how, what's up? All right. Okay. No, maybe the audio. Play the audio. Play the audio. Oh, okay. Ian was there. Don't worry. Oh, here we go. We have it. We can hear it. Ooh. Oh, no, wait a minute. Oh, Armin, Armand getting...

Big Steve in the middle. Yeah. Look at the, take of the high road, baby. Shouta. What do you think, Pizzi? What do you think? Ian getting in the mix. This is how you get people talking about you.

This is kind of good, no? A little shove there. What's the beat between Hamzad and Ian? Is there any history there? There was. Remember, there was that clip that went viral of Ian's wife kind of saying to him. Oh, you're afraid of him or something to that, that, uh... that's that's the only kind of history i know there but you know look at this guy

ian just showing the decorum every time you know arming out there headbutting people at the way and he's like a gentleman standing yes he's a pro he reminds me a gs p the way he just shows up professional to every event you know you're like telling me that people want to see a wild animal like hamzat shamaia fight that's crazy though he rage baited him as the kids say he is a space invaderine isn't he like he'll get in there like he'll he'll immediately like you know ballal's in there with his corner and he just immediately over there What's the correct, lads? How he's getting on.

I was like, whoa, what is going on here? He's like, straight away, here's my whole family. What do you think of these guys? You know, it's a lot to deal with. I think it's all an immersive experience. There's some kind of mind game he plays with people. You don't just get Ian. He's with you.

His whole family are around you. You're like, meet everyone. We all really like you, actually. Sorry, I have to do this for you. Mind fucking them. Well, I do want to give a shout out to Todd Oleg, who also sent in a super chat. And he said, Syracuse basketball is on the rise. Thank you for that, Todd.

I was wearing as well. I had my Syracuse hat too here. So we all got the memo. Shout out to the Newhouse School number one broadcasting school

in the entire world and so now we're all friends wearing our hats. Gentlemen, I wear this one for you by the way. This was the old Denver Bears yeah,

the Denver Bears like this is where you know, Rock Raines. Yes, yes, yes. Tim Wallach and all those guys. Before they wore your hat, they wore this one.

Man, Andy went full screen on me. I didn't realize So my TV got exposed there. It went off. What are you talking about, the bookshelf? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of these times you should pull a book off,

they're just fully like, what the hell happened here? What do you mean? Just keep it on the three shot, will you, Andy? There we go. What do you mean? Let me just see it. You want one? The massive glare of the lights.

What are you reading there? This is called Dream Team by Jack McCallum, a great, the 92 Dream Team team, just putting it right back right over there. You guys can't see it because of three shots. It's right in there. Yeah. Perfect. Who's winning the poll?

Oh, the poll, that's right. That's right. Sorry, I forgot about that. Doing so much here. It's reading books. Actually, it is Shafkat, 52%. It's 40. So it's neck and neck.

Only 400 votes so far. I just put it up because there was so much going on. Our demographic and listeners are all about the meritocracy. All right? That's what we've learned. That's what we've learned today. Gentlemen, this has been a lot of fun. big night of fighting ahead of us.

Of course, the huge car down in Riyadh just getting underway. You've got the great David Benavides against Anthony Yard. Yo, did you read the article? Did you read Elliot's article about... Elliot Wursell? Of course. Unbelievable. If you're looking, you need your balls to be tickled

a little bit ahead of this one. Over to uncrowned, read Elliot Wursell's article. Yard's relationship were lost, not only in the ring, but in his personal life. He always knocks out of the park. He's like the Chuk Menden Hall of boxing. I was good. I was just going to say, the Chuckman and Hall of Boxing. He is good, man.

He does some things that I'm like, man, I wish I'd thought of that. I mean, he's that good. Like, he does that type of thing. He's always good, man. There's something about the Queen's English that he sprinkles in those pieces. It gives it a little gravitas. But you, you, Elliot, Ben, and I include Shaheen in that mix as well, who's now editor, but I think has the same type of skills, Mount Rushmore right there of combat sports writers.

And then, like, when they're building the, the offshoot one and re-ed, like, Pizzi's on that one. I'm in the Chinese one. Yeah, yeah. What am I looking at here? Timu, Mendenhall. But, Jen, so a big card over there, Devin Haney on that card, Abdullah Mason, on and on it goes, Bam Rodriguez. And of course, don't forget, over at the Prudential Center, AEW, full gear, gentlemen. So it's head-to-head, it's a dual-screen type of night.

The fighting continues, but it is over here on the uncrown. post show Chuck any final thoughts don't you fret about that Houston Texans team man the Denver Broncos beat him a couple of weeks ago and this is one of those things I'm just trying to say keep the hope keep the hope because feeling good it's a Saturday afternoon why do you have to remind me of the hit I totally forgot I never get a chance to talk to you about this stuff with a big win yeah I'm so depressed I still feel like I still feel like they're the most there I still feel they're the dangerous team no they're not I think so.

Your team, what's your record? You're better than us. Nine and two, but... Nine and two is insane for Denver. Not for team like us, man. We want 11 and 0, but I will say that Buffalo Bills, especially the way that that playoff game went last year, they still

scared the hell out of me. Yeah, as long as you have number 17 there and let's hope that he's healthy, we're good. But the problem is we have no wide receivers, we have no rush defense, and he's playing us out. I know she's like... Our special team's son.

Our defense is porous. We've got nothing. It's Josh and James Cook That's it Nothing else Who the hell is Davis Mills Who is Davis Mills? Yeah

I don't know Anyway I didn't mean I didn't want that to Bill Palmer I was trying to give you hope I was trying to give hope We're putting the final thoughts on ice For the next month So we do one of these again

Yeah We'll be back in a couple weeks For the final UFC on ESPN pay-per-view That's on December 6 We'll do a post show And perhaps if something else comes up Fun to do this back to back. Where are you at, TST?

We miss you. Shout out, Cco Stories. Check it out on your podcast feed. What a plug. That dude's living life large right now, man. If you follow his Instagram, he's loving it. Vinyasa TST.

Shout out to him. Yeah. Lotus. Gentlemen, enjoy your evening, wherever you may be. Everyone out there, thank you very much. Monday, we are back. Another week of programming. Actually, Monday.

Tuesday for me. Tuesday for me. Well, yeah, yeah, because this is 100%. But next week, only three shows. No boys in the back next week because of Thanksgiving and no crack next week as well because of Black Friday, as they say. I don't know who made up these days off, but I'll be there Monday through Wednesday, have no fear, much to discuss. I'll tell you all about my time in Miami, the press conference. That was a fun time.

And we'll talk about this card, get the thoughts of New York Rick and G.C. as well. All right. Thank you very much, Oscar and Andy in the back. Thank you very much. Chuck, thank you very much. Pizzi, thanks to all of you. We love you all very much. Please like, sub-numbers, continue to climb here.

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