The Ariel Helwani Show - UFC Saudi Arabia Post-Fight Show: Israel Adesanya suffers stunning TKO loss to Nassourdine Imavov, MVP outclasses Shara Bullet

Episode Date: February 1, 2025

UFC Saudi Arabia is in the books, so the Boys in the Back and Petesy Carroll give their immediate reaction to Israel Adesanya's stunning defeat at the hands of Nassourdine Imavov, including what to ma...ke of Adesanya's skid and what could be next for both fighters  (00:44).Then, they discuss Michael 'Venom' Page stopping Shara Bullet's undefeated streak and whether the UFC would be wise to push Page (21:56).Finally, they recap the rest of the card, including another fun performance from Vinicius 'LokDog' Oliveira (39:17), Fares Ziam's upset win (41:25), Shamil Gaziev's big KO (46:00), the reliably quick work of Terrance McKinney (49:13), Jasmine Jasudavicius becoming a contender  (50:13), and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody, welcome to the post fight show in Saudi Arabia. Nasruddin Imobov has pulled off an amazing upset. And yes, I was caught off guard by the introduction there, I apologize. I'm PZ Carol, I'm joined by gc and new york rick hello and my god what what a turnaround in that main event i was watching there and i was still fathoming as you could probably see me just locked into the screen there i have no idea how imovov has turned the tide the way he had we were sitting here watching this saying israel adesanya looks better than he has in years physically even in
Starting point is 00:00:46 the open exchanges he stops a takedown gets a brief takedown for himself and then pieces this guy up and then the second round monstrous right hand falls him to the ground some debating whether the stoppage was indeed accurate if it was on point we're going to discuss it all a massive win for mvp also in the co-main event against shara bullet um lads first of all rick how are you are you shocked by the result i'm not shocked by the result but i'm shocked that i'm shocked how good is he looked and then the result does that make sense like i'm shocked that like, I thought this was going to be like a vintage kind of classic Israel Adesanya performance. Like we had seen from him. It looked like he was on his way to it. It looked like Imavov, like the takedowns were stuffed. It looked like he had no answers.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Izzy looked as sharp as he's ever looked. He was pressing forward. Um, he was the one on the front foot and then for it to end that way was a little bit shocking. Yeah, absolutely. Now tell me this, GC. I'd assign you a favorite going in. I imagine after that first round, I know you don't have this information here, but I imagine after that first round, the Lions changed drastically
Starting point is 00:01:59 because I thought he looked absolutely fantastic. Are you shocked by what you just saw? Yeah, yeah. I mean, the way that it went down, I am a little bit shocked. I mean, he was having a ton of success in that first round, and his takedown defense was on point. He was looking fantastic. And then just a right down the pipe just blows the doors off of him
Starting point is 00:02:18 and puts him down. Whether it was a bad stoppage, I'm not fully certain. I mean, watching it live dude he got cracked and then he landed some big shots to follow up you know you could maybe say maybe a few more uh but i mean dude he did get cracked pretty bad yeah i mean i think rick you were maybe as we were watching this now i'm not holding it to this opinion but i think you were the most critical of that stoppage and as we saw it again what you said to me the first time we saw it is, I think Izzy's arms are pinned underneath him.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And you could see that Amalov had this back position. It looked like his knees were up around his elbows nearly. So maybe that was restricting the way he could move. Tell us your thoughts on the stoppage there. Yeah, we're going to need to see the replay from a different angle. Like the behind angle isn't kind of quite showing what I need to see in order to like make a determination on that but what i believe happened is like when
Starting point is 00:03:09 izzy went to the ground first of all insanely clean shot by imabov like really really solid punch the punch that he hit him with against the cage was also a real solid punch like izzy was in real trouble but once he hit the ground i felt like izzy's arms were almost trapped under him and it looked to the referee like he wasn't like defending himself. Almost that turtle position that some fighters get into when they're trying to like relent and give up the fight. And I felt like his arms being trapped didn't allow him the range of motion to kind of like show that he was okay. Because I don't think the shots once it was down there were super, super strong. It felt like Izzy had something.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And then as soon as the the fight was called and imavov like uh was off him you see you see as he pop up right away coherent now granted we've seen that before and every time you pop up coherent doesn't mean that you weren't getting hammered on but i think he had a little bit left and i actually think it was just a situation where he was in a bad kind of spot and couldn't kind of show the referee what he was dealing with it's uh it's a it's a bad look we will speak about imavov and his claims for a middleweight title for here but i can't help but think about is he in this situation like this one of the generationally brilliant middleweight champions a guy who we were kind of set and you know around the time
Starting point is 00:04:23 of jan bahovic we're kind of going oh yeah it's about time he moved up and went for double champ status three defeats on the bounce uh sean strickland which nobody saw coming in september 23 then we had drick as duplassie which i again similar to this fight in that fight i was thinking well wow is he had some moments in that fight where like he looks fantastic we were saying exactly the same thing about the first round this fight and now we're on a three-fight skid gc i mean dude three fights kid and he has also lost four of his last five and and you mentioned the sean strickland one like he was thoroughly dominated in that fight he didn't get finished but he got finished in the ddp fight and he also just got finished by nasa de nemovov and then in the first
Starting point is 00:05:03 alex perera fight he got knocked out and finished and got his belt taken in that one. Other than the incredible moment that we saw down in Miami, you know, with the bow and arrow and everything like that, knocking out Alex Pereira, it has been a rough two and a half year stretch at this point for Adesanya. I mean, I want to say at one point he was 23 and one in his career. You know, I know he went up and got his first loss to blahobish but then he he had three straight title defenses after that back down in middleweight but since that what was it cannoneer was was his last uh was his last win before the the four the last five wow so yeah man it's he's 35 at this point now you know getting knocked out by imov he's as far
Starting point is 00:05:41 away from the title as he has been since 2018 since i mean like it's it's uh it's really up in the air where he goes from here uh in terms of his career now what a start to uncrowned saturday can i just say i mean we're here we're absolutely dumbfounded on this uncrowned saturday of course we have uh benavidez v Murrell coming up later on. We have the Royal Rumble. I've got some heaters in terms of numbers. I mean, I'm looking at 29-25 here and
Starting point is 00:06:10 I'm thinking, I've got it in the bag already. You had a good draft. You had a good draft. All right, we can
Starting point is 00:06:15 move on from that. Look, we won't move on because I'm going to win and then I'm going to speak about it for the next month. But like, GC,
Starting point is 00:06:22 you're a man, sorry, excuse me, Rick, you're a man who, like you were one of the guys shouting from the hilltops about Adesanya when he first came to the UFC even beforehand I can remember most of the videos I saw were coming from your socials you said when this fight was announced that you didn't like it yeah I can see why now because this has been effectively a stroke of classic matchmaking from the UFC where I know he's 35 and I don't mean to be disrespectful but the old guard is being replaced by new contenders in this case Imavov yeah it's a great point and you know we GC and I on boys
Starting point is 00:06:59 in the back I talked about like if this is a loss for Izzy is at the end of Izzy as a title contender I don't think it is because I think he'szy is at the end of of izzy as a title uh contender i don't think it is because i think he's always relevant to the scene because of how many rivalries rivalries he's got and how big of a name he is um i think there's a path back there like he he could end up in a fight with a sean strickland a ddp that type even like hamza right there's enough there that i feel like people would be clamoring for it but he needs some to do some work and to me the way you get into back into that uh picture is with easier fights it's not a guy who's on the rise like imavov who is clearly like a top contender in his division you i would have liked to see if if i had my way and i said this when we were talking about it i would have
Starting point is 00:07:40 liked to see him be the one fighting shara billitt because I think he could have had a real turn back the clock performance and been in like a showcase type fight. Instead, what we saw was MVP get the win over Shara Bullitt, establish himself and feel like he has some momentum coming off a win and Israel get the loss. So it's to me like Israel is at such a high level. It's a difficult challenge that you have if you're the UFC because you can't put them in fights that you don't feel are worthy of headlining the card, right? So you naturally have to put them in there against contenders and guys who are going to bring the action. Imavov is a contender, and I think we saw the level there. But at the same time, for Israel's side of it, if you're managing Israel Adesanya's career, you want him to be in there against guys where it's not killer, killer, killer, killer, killer, especially when you're on a skid. You want to be able to get in there and get a win and then be able to rebuild from there and get yourself back into the title picture. That said, I do not believe he's far away, right? He has such a presence. He has such
Starting point is 00:08:39 a name. He draws so much attention still that with one or two more, he can get back. But if this next one is against another guy who's a top-ranked contender against a guy like Amovov, a similar guy, does he automatically get back there? I'm not sure. And that's my problem with the whole situation. And you say one or two more, and then he's back in the picture. But at this point in his career, this late at 35, and now he's dropping these fights. My main concern is him being able to get those two wins to get back into the title picture. I agree with you, but my point is those one or two wins or even three wins, you can stack the deck to not be against him off of,
Starting point is 00:09:17 right? If you fight a Shara bullet type, you're making it easier to climb back out of that hole, and that's where I kind of had an issue with the matchmaking. Now, at the same time, this is a little bit of Monday morning or quarter for me, it's not Monday morning quarterbacking because I felt this way in the beginning, but you could look at it this way because he looked damn good. Like that Izzy that was there in round one to me looked like he was going to win that fight. I thought he was going to cruise pretty comfortably round two. It got, it got all all shaken up but he looked good and so maybe maybe i'm wrong maybe he is at that level still and maybe he doesn't need like a rebound type fight and could have won this fight under different circumstances uh got got hit with a punch that happens tell me um
Starting point is 00:10:00 rick you mentioned that when this fight was announced, you said, oh, I would have preferred if it was Izzy v. Shara. I see Shara coming off with a defeat tonight. Can you do it? Would you be open to that? I mean, big momentum shifter for Shara, and we will be talking about that fighter in more detail just in a few moments. But as we're on the topic, is that a fight that you could make now without people saying this is absolutely ridiculous? No, you could absolutely make that fight my my wonder my question for that fight is does israel want that fight right does israel want to be somebody who's competing against somebody
Starting point is 00:10:33 in sharaba who's coming off a loss that really might not vault you back into the title picture um but would be somebody who stylistically you'd have to assume he has has an advantage on um if israel wants a fight like that to me that's the type of fight that you that you want to make for israel adesanya do you see you watch that what'd you say would you watch that shara yeah i'm a little bit less inclined to watch it after his performance today i mean it felt like izzy would be able to do what mbp did it felt like just a little bit too much too soon. He was only 14th before the MVP fight. Now you have to think he's probably going to fall out of the rankings. But at the same time, I don't really know who you match him up with.
Starting point is 00:11:11 A Kyle Bahalio? I mean, that's like sort of the same thing. It's the same thing, right? Like a wildly talented dude coming up the rankings. And then when you look at the middle of the pack, seven is Marvin Vittori. He's already fought him twice. Eight, Jared Cannoneer.
Starting point is 00:11:24 These are all guys he's already fought. Do you eight jared cannoneer um like these are all guys already fought do you run back the uh two guys kind of down on their luck do you run back the uh easy versus paulo costa i don't hate it people would like that a lot i don't hate it there it's like there's no title implications but like it'd be an entertaining build-up you could easily get that the headline of fight night like you did tonight so like i feel like that's kind of where we're at right now in the career let's say this is like an almost an ego death of sorts here for for izzy in this situation given how good he looked like you could see the guy looked absolutely ripped getting into the cage um eugene berman these guys like they don't expect a guy of this caliber to be going on a run like this.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And Chuck Mendenhall wrote an article in the lead up to this fight about, are we at the end of Izzy if he doesn't come away with a win like this? And you're talking about a guy who was at the very top of the world. We were talking about, we're in this situation where when he came along, we're looking for a new superstar in the sport and everybody was saying this could potentially be the guy i don't think it ever caught on the way we had we in in the sport had hoped as in him uh transcending to that level but is there any possibility here and i know he's i'm sure he's outraged by the result but
Starting point is 00:12:41 is there any way here that is he starts weighing up his career as you said 35 like i don't think he ever expected to be on the end of a loss to nasa dean imovoff um not with disrespect to him but i mean this pushes him further back we're debating the legitimacy of a fight here and we're potentially shara bullet who just lost to mvp is there any way that he just calls it a day at this stage and says, I don't know if this is for me anymore? I 100% think that's possible. In the package that they ran for this fight, he talked about how happy he is with life. In the interview he did with Ariel Helwani earlier this week, he talked about how happy he is with life. It would not shock me,
Starting point is 00:13:20 and I said this in my breakdown of the fight i was my my main question heading into this fight was is israel adesanya motivated uh and ready to ascend to championship uh caliber again the the performance showed me yeah like that guy's still there like the the striking was on point the takedown defense was on point that guy i believe is still in there he looked motivated he looked like his camp was incredible the The shape he was in was incredible. I feel like the pieces are still there. But at the same time, when you are Israel Adesanya and you've done everything in this sport and now you are looking at a skid like this, do I care to do it is a legitimate question. So I don't know the answer.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I think Israel is kind of a little bit mercurial. We won't know until he knows and he decides. And it could be tomorrow or it could be a month from now. I think Israel's kind of a little bit mercurial. Like we won't know until he knows and he decides. And it could be tomorrow or it could be a month from now. We'll kind of have to see that, but it would not shock me. If Israel Adesanya said, I'm good. I had an incredible run as one of the best champions this organization has ever seen. I've got more money than I know what to do with.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't need this anymore. I'm going to go do something else. I would not be shocked at all. I mean, how could he at least not consider it? I mean, he was 13-1 at one point with six title defenses. He's done everything in the sport. By the next time he's going to fight, he'll be 36 years old. Now he's losing to guys like Imavov.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Now he's several fights away from getting the title back. I feel like at least a consideration has to happen. Man, I just can't believe we're here. I can't believe we're discussing this, especially after the first round. And look, when I'm thinking about this, I'm thinking about the Dricker's performance. I'm thinking about this performance when it all seemed to be going exactly how he wants it to be.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know, like that says to me that this is a guy that's following a game plan. This is a guy that has prepared correctly for the fight. And then it just goes wrong. That must be one of the most disheartening things to happen to a guy who we know was on that level he seemed completely untouchable but obviously he was touched this time by Nazardin Imovov that big right hand in the second round wins him the fight right now his streak of wins is after that uh weird no contest with Chris Curtis it was
Starting point is 00:15:21 Roman Delidze, Jared Kanier brendan allen israel adesanya he is calling for the winner of drick is duplass cv sean stricken which is coming up very very quickly and look it's weird for me to say this because it's just put away but is that gonna be enough gc like you think he's made a case here for the ufc where they're like yeah that's the guy let's have him sitting beside the cage for drickus and Sean because he is guaranteed no he's not next not with a guy like Hamza Chemaev landing in the wings I think he is the disservid uh title contender at this point at 185 uh but I do think Imovav especially if Sean Strickland loses the Drikus 2 plus C next week he has a great great opportunity to get the rematch his
Starting point is 00:16:05 last loss was to sean strickland in that short notice light heavyweight bout in january of 2023 get that one back in a big time fight for him and if he wins that one then it's like all right there's no stopping me now i have to be the next one to get the title shot i don't i don't mind that at all actually yeah the sean strickland fight but i will i will say like as much as you know we're saying maybe it's not enough there is the whole thing where ham's at right rick like this is a guy that seems to be able to fight in one part of the world um you know if the timeline doesn't match up he is automatically ruled out or so it would seem so i mean he he might be the guy too at this stage right yeah timing is everything when it comes to the modern ufc and if hamzat's
Starting point is 00:16:52 not able to go when they need him to go it could very well be him my thing my my only devil's advocate point back to that is i actually think hamzat is the a side in the title fight between whoever wins ddp versus strickland i think it will be they will work on Hamzat is the A-side in the title fight. Whoever wins DDP versus Strickland, I think they will work on Hamzat's schedule and work on Hamzat's terms because I believe he's the A-side in that scenario, even though he would not be the champion. We're getting dangerously close to that situation we're talking about
Starting point is 00:17:17 where it's like Hamzat has the belt and then we just have these tiny windows every year where he can defend the title. It's coming in here buddy he's gonna have four title defenses over eight years yeah i mean it'll be some run gc i forgot we should really talk about your background here you've really gone all out we know that you are a man who spares no thought or expense on the backdrop uh talk us through the background there all right so well first of all no comment on the cristiano ronaldo on the backdrop. Talk us through the background there. All right. So, well, first of all,
Starting point is 00:17:45 no comment on the Cristiano Ronaldo on the Sarah jersey. I mean, shout out. I've never watched the Saudi league. I mean, no love for that. Look, the background looks great when we're cropped in these little boxes like this. I got Interstellar,
Starting point is 00:17:57 my favorite movie of all time in the back. And then we got a little George St. Pierre championship edition toy that I got off of eBay. But if you go to the wide shot if we can go to the wide shot here it's a really it's an ugly scene I mean this is I'm in a bare corner of my studio apartment it's I'm pressed for space uh so like as long as we can just keep off the wide shot I'm looking I'm looking great but you're under my dartboard right now that's the only corner I had open we'll stay in the three box since I'm in my bedroom. So we'll stay in the three box.
Starting point is 00:18:25 We're used to blurred background Rick over here. I unblurred it. I was losing too much and it was too much. He was blurred for the whole testing process. That's why I'm kind of shocked that he actually unblurred for us. This is quite a new look for you, Rick. I did it just for you, PT. I want you to see the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Raw, bare. At least you actually knew when the show was starting. That was pretty cool from your end to me. Where did you get the Saudi jersey, man? Where did you get... I've never seen one of them in a shop.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This is effort. It's a Cristiano Ronaldo jersey. I've had it for a minute, man. You can get them anywhere. Are you one of those guys that talks about his goal scoring record because he scored so many
Starting point is 00:19:00 in Saudi and says, it's a real league, bro. It really counts. I'm not even a Ronaldoonaldo guy i'm i'm actually just more of a of an al nasser guy i just support the saudi league i actually got to see ronaldo playing at united a few times and for real madrid against messi it was absolutely fantastic messi scored two goals ronaldo scored one it was one of the super cup games before the season starts but anyway it was fantastic um nasa dean imov off man i can't i am i still like as much as i'm giving izzy credit like i'm saying for izzy like he had a he had a great first round how did it all come undone
Starting point is 00:19:35 you have to then give him off that credit like he looked befuddled like he doubled it yeah like double the credit we were all saying in between the round when he was sitting on the stool we were like man he looks kind of gassed out. Like the failed takedown attempts, he's breathing heavy. Like he almost looked like it was like, damn, did I just empty it out in round one going for those takedowns? And then to come out and just put that absolute pearl right there and connect and win the fight and be right there in title contention now, man.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Shout out to him. All credit to him. Unbelievable performance. It was almost like he was confused, like we were saying like he was standing there fighting like a guy who had tried for three rounds to find a way to do this and he couldn't figure out he's kind of standing there looking at izzy in round one and then what the hell 30 seconds into round two jesus yeah i mean if you're him and izzy stops your first couple of takedowns, you're in a rough spot. You know, you can't outstrike Izzy until you do outstrike Izzy and you win the fight.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I mean, it's an incredible turn of events and shout out to him. I think you're right. Like maybe there's been an underserving of the credit that's deserved. But I do always feel like there's kind of always some explanation when it comes to his fights, right? Like this one, I feel like the book is going to be, uh, is he got sloppy and he found it maybe even the stoppage thing. Although I will say that it seems like based on the comments I'm seeing here and kind of what I've seen online so far, most people agree with the stoppage. Okay. I w I would like to see the, the alternate angle. I kind of want to see Izzy from the front
Starting point is 00:21:03 before, before I make a determination, it was definitely not an egregious stoppage by any mean like likely what happens from there is just more punches come in and then it gets stopped two seconds later but i would have liked to probably see those two seconds personally um but there's always something with his fights right it's like ah the other ones were too close and he didn't look great in this one and lost a sean strick like there's always something where it's like he's not going to get the credit he deserves. Maybe this is the performance where everybody goes, okay, he stopped a former champion, knocked him out clean on the feet or rocked him clean on the feet and had him down on the ground.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Maybe it's time. And truth be told, as you said, I don't see somebody who's ahead of him in line other than Hamzat. He's very firmly in that position. And so you kind of, he doesn't really have to do much. He can kind of just wait for his opportunity. You know, from one confused guy to another, Cheryl Bullitt in the coma in event. It looked very quickly like one of those signature MVP fights.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And I know based on my own replies that i put out when i said this was a master class from mvp haven't watched a guy for so long do exactly this to people um he has a mixture of uh of people out there online some people seem to love watching mvp do what he does gc but others not too keen watching the man go to business for 15 minutes where do you lie in the MVP debate I love it but like I'm partial to MVP I just think he's an entertaining guy I think he's a great character having this sport I'm glad that he's over from the UFC uh from Bellator and the success that he's had now I mean comes in beats Kevin Holland handily almost takes Ian Gary's oh Ian Gary doesn't get his back in that last round.
Starting point is 00:22:45 He takes Ian Gary's O. And then, yeah, I'll go up to 185 to take Shara Bullitt's O too. That's fine. And I mean, however you feel about the fight, like he fought the fight he needed to. He did exactly what he needed to, 30-27 on two of the judges' scorecards. It was a great performance. I'm wondering if he's like, man, I was comfortable. I was fast.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I liked the weight cut. I wonder if there's any chance that he, in the back of his of his mind he's like maybe i don't go right back down to 170 after this i have a feeling he will go back to 170 just because like i feel like the physicality of the guys at 85 is going to be a lot for somebody who's like such a strong lean kind of like speed guy um but i also think if you put him into striking battles with guys at 185 he'll look like he looked today. He will be comfortable. He will not be.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Once it gets into the wrestling and the muscling, that's where I feel like he'd be at a big disadvantage at 185. But a guy like Shara, I feel like he could run this a million times and be in no real significant disadvantage. Right. I don't want to see him against an Anthony Hernandez. Exactly. Yeah. That's what we do not need to see. Yeah. But if he goes back to 170 wonder boy
Starting point is 00:23:45 fight's still there oh boy let's do it what would you prefer what would you prefer wonder boy or like uh who give me a name michelle perera but isn't he at 85 now yeah but that's what i'm saying if we're doing oh you're saying stay at 85 and oh per Pereira or go back down to 1-7. But you're right. You need someone to agree to this gentleman's situation. You have to agree. You have to agree to strike, yeah. And Pereira's become more than a one-dimensional fighter over the years. We've seen him dominate dudes.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Submission-wise, he'll probably be on their top control. I don't love it because I feel like he'd probably see some food if he saw MVP. I think he'd know what to do there. I got one for you. Let's go back down to 170. Carlos Prachez. Oh, that comes out of that. You said you liked Michael Page. Come on. And in the contract agreement, MVP has to pick up cigarettes during the training camp. Here's my thing with that. If you're Pr feel like you've you've passed that you've gone past the mvp uh position i think he's looking at like a real top true contender that if you beat you get a title shot type situation well to gc's point like well like to go go what GC's saying here
Starting point is 00:25:05 you make much more of a splash for Prattas against MVP than you do against most guys in the rankings just who he is, the way he fights right man, you put MVP on skates and you knock him clean out and you light up a marble red in the octagon, you're going to get some attention what about like
Starting point is 00:25:20 I don't hate it but like if I'm Prattas like Garyary you know there's like there's fights out there that would put you higher and faster what about char bullet i think we were all in agreement that like he kind of hadn't blown the doors off for us like we weren't like wow this is the guy he's had some great moments especially you know the double spinning back fist and so and some good performances along the way but this i mean a mean, a bet on MVP. We talked about it on Thursday, Rick, like we both felt like MVP was the play here, the pick here. So like, it didn't come as a shock for him to win this. Where does he go now from here? Like, it's, it's sort of like, did he, I don't want to say get exposed, but it's just like, it felt like maybe a little too much for him. Yeah, I agree with that. Like it definitely looked like this was a level above at the same time though, like MVP, if you put him in striking battles, he can win those. It'll be fun. Like it'll be an opportunity for him. I think MVP was just a little bit of a level too high for him, but you put them in there with guys who will stand
Starting point is 00:26:17 and strike and he will be able to do it. It just looked like this was a different level for him. It looked like this was a different level of striking, looked like this was a different level of striking but he could be a fun uh guy to start off cards or be somewhere in the high prelims um as long as you give him opportunities to strike just i don't want to see him versus a wrestler the same way i want to see mvp versus a wrestler yeah it's it's it's all like what will go against them like to your point like you're saying you put them in a striking match people will automatically point to this striking match but to say that mvp is like a conventional striker this is some kind of pattern that you different you see many times yeah it's a complete lie like he is so weird you could see gary when he was fighting him too right i need to get a body lock i need to just get this
Starting point is 00:26:59 guy on the ground because i do not know what in the name of christ he is doing so i'll actually i'll actually i'll actually say uh about mvp like i was actually a doubter when he came over to the ufc i picked kevin holland i was like man i don't know if he's if he's on this level and he's he's shown that he clearly is i think it was a must win for mvp because i don't like even look you're talking about the kevin holland fight the amount of talk of talk like Kevin Holland that week, it was almost like someone had been in his ear saying, you can't lose to a Bellator guy. Because that's all he said all week.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Historically, we have seen sometimes when someone comes over, they want to make a big example of them. They want to say like you, yeah, you were a contender there. You weren't in the rankings here. You cannot compete here. I think that was probably the message that was attempting to be sent when he matched him with kevin holland he gets the win today mvp um but does that win dana white over like as much as we're saying like this is a great win that's two big kind of scalps in some ways for mvp you get the impression that
Starting point is 00:28:04 the lads aren't behind them as much as you'd like to see, right? It just feels like you're still the Bellator fire despite you taking this massive risk and coming across to the UFC. Well, I think there's two ways to enter the promotion, right? There's Michael Chandler where you come in and
Starting point is 00:28:20 you throw hands and you're a wrestler but you're throwing hands like you're a striker and you're putting on exciting performances and you're winning fight of the night bonuses. And that's the version of the Bellator fighter that you've brought into the organization. Or there's MVP who is winning, but it's looking a little bit ho-hum, right? Like that wasn't, that was a great performance in my opinion. Like he, he did what he needed to do, but it wasn't the exciting like barn burner that could it could have potentially been nor is any mvp kind of like the mvp fight like that right like he's not the guy
Starting point is 00:28:49 who's coming he's not israel he's not coming in there and every once in a while there's this crazy highlight reel knockout right the guy to knock out alex perera the finishes of paulo the finish of rob the every once in a while there's's some magic that Israel is able to deliver. MVP at this stage in his career hasn't been able to kind of like summon that, the early MVP magic that he had. It's really just like a tricky kind of point fighting puzzle for people to solve. And if you're the UFC, I don't imagine that like, that's the guy that you're going, yeah, we're so thrilled to have in these spots. um because it's not it's not that blood or guts kind of michael chandler thing and i'm only comparing him to chandler because that's what
Starting point is 00:29:29 we're talking about right like a bellator name coming over um but at the same time like you have to give the guys do he's now ranked he's 15 on the ufc's rankings you imagine he'll move up a little bit uh process is 13 now and that's, why I don't love that matchup. I'm not going to hold the door for that one. Truly, though, if you're Proches, you're 13. Do I go back and fight Page, or is it like, yo, I want to fight Jeff Neal, Gilbert Burns, Ian Machado, Gary. Those are the guys I'd be looking at, personally.
Starting point is 00:30:01 If he takes that fight. I think MVP fight does more for him than a Jeff Neal fight. I know jeff neal's 10th but do you i guess maybe maybe but let's say he could get ian let's say you have to take an opportunity or even burns right these are names that i feel like will will mean a little bit more at the same time i am mad at it and the who all right who does mvp fight tell me you guys call it now who's mvp gonna fight i'm gonna keep banging the drum i'm michael morales michael morales that's not a bad one he's at 12 that's a that's a hell of a tough fight though man dude are you kidding me i just picked the last that's a great fucking fight i feel like it's wonder boy i feel like
Starting point is 00:30:42 we're gonna try and take another road there so the Wonderboy thing I think people have been titillated about this for too long like when you put those two stars together like this is Ian Machado, Gary and MVP again, nobody was like wow, what a fight this is absolutely amazing
Starting point is 00:30:59 it wasn't a great fight and these guys I think Wonderboy and Like it's, you are, and if, and these guys, I think, but wonder boy and wonder boy and MVP, it's more likely to not have an added dynamic, which you saw with Gary, him taking the fight down. You're just going to have two lads in blade stance, trying to like jab kick each other for like 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Like that is a serious possibility, but is it worth putting it on just so people could say, I told you so I'm certainly into it. If you're the UFC, here's one reason you could is because it ties up two guys that you don't really quite know what to do with. Right. Wonder boy and,
Starting point is 00:31:32 and MVP are not going to be champions of this division. I'm going to go out on that limb and just say that, but, but they're also guys who are kind of in the way of like a Morales and approaches and like guys who need to ascend. So you kind of tie them up together and then you put those guys a little bit higher in the pecking order and have them kind of
Starting point is 00:31:49 turn over some of the old guard. But MVP, look, give him his due. Like he's a guy, I thought Kevin Holland was going to win the fight. GC said it, like he thought Holland was going to win the fight.
Starting point is 00:32:02 He's come over and okay. You're so smart. No, I think I remember this actually i do think i remember pt having him and so um he's been better in the ufc than i think many would have expected or given him credit for and i get the performances are not lighting the world on fire but he's a tough problem to solve and he's gonna he's gonna be around for a little bit more i think his style is one that has preserved his health even though he can you know he could fight into a later age because he's been to be around for a little bit more. I think his style is one that has preserved his health, even though he can fight into a later age because he's been able to preserve himself and not been in these wars
Starting point is 00:32:30 and been able to kind of strike from the outside. So just credit to MVP. It was a good performance to the point you were making. I don't think it has the bosses going, this is our guy. Oh my God, I can't believe we need to push this guy to the top. But he did what he needed to do and he's continued to to be slick as he does it the kind of feel like sorry go ahead i was just gonna say the usc just put up on their broadcast the uh the performance of
Starting point is 00:32:54 the night bonus is bogdan grad nasa dmv gets an additional 50k wow shout out on top of the isu and then the fight of the night was the Saeed Nurmagomedov versus Loke Dogfight. That was a good fight. Just one point on MVP. We talked about earlier the mixture of reactions this fighting style gets. Like, he's not going in there. He's not knocking the dust off, guys. But I feel like the UFC got this guy, and it's nearly like buying McLaren to drive around to the store.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Like, you don't buy a car like that if you're just driving for two minutes down the road you buy it so it can do all the cool shit mclaren can do and a kind of a microcosm of how i feel about this was with the ring after the fight like this moment it's completely flat and you know mvp is using the tiniest gap that the UFC are allowing him to do something with. When you saw it, like I've been on his fights in London and I saw the theater of all, when he walks out and everything. I really feel like they're clipping the dude's wings by not letting him put on the whole MVP experience for us. And I know they don't want to do that. Um, they didn't want to do what Izzy, who was also on this card back in the day,
Starting point is 00:34:06 he had that dance thing in Melbourne. He did the Undertaker thing. Eventually, of course, MVP is not quite there. He has done his Undertaker thing to some extent. But I do feel as though we're only kind of seeing a tiny bit of the potential this guy brings to the table when they are allowing to him exist in this tiny little box.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It's a really fantastic point because even even in bellator right some of the mvp performances look like this one but when you get the additional theatrics and you allow him to be that character and you're allowing to do these things then it kind of like creates a still a more appetizing package right now it's like you just see him walking out with the regular fight kit not getting to it's it's a fantastic point by you i never considered it that way i never thought like some of the magic of what we're losing from mvp isn't necessarily the fight itself and that outside the cage stuff and that flare for the theatrical um and they they've suppressed that fully right he talked about wanting to do some
Starting point is 00:35:00 crazy entrance he said to ariel he revealed it to ariel like he wanted to appear in the ring like they would have cut away and he appears in and they're not letting him do any of that and it's it's a great point by you at the same time i think we we need mvp to like knock somebody out too we need mv like if he wants to be in the position that i believe he wants to be in their performances have to be better than like just out pointing Shara bullet by, by a few punches. Like you have to, you have to really put it on the line and knock them out.
Starting point is 00:35:30 If you want to be in that title contention. A hundred percent with you, Rick. I actually, I'm on hers a hundred percent with both of y'all. Like back in Bellator, we saw him with the pokey ball and the, and the Thanos glove and like really let him do it up.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Let him do the fun things. Let him do the cool walkouts. But also to your point, Rick, let's start getting some highlight reel performances. We've seen all three of his fights have gone to a decision and the two wins, the Kevin Holland one, he was
Starting point is 00:35:58 talking some shit in there and it was fairly exciting, but it is him just outpointing people. The level is there to me. The Ian Gary fight actually to me like the ian gary fight actually showed me like yo mvp is still like a good fighter like that that's that's the part fast right and still so slick and so fast and like if gary doesn't take him down there that fight is a toss-up right and we just saw gary go with shavkat like the level is still there he needs like a real like definitive performance and to your point pc like without the additional parts without the kind of theatrics and and the uh the fun around him all we have is
Starting point is 00:36:31 the performances and he needs that now he desperately kind of needs one like that but another win still going to be ranked going to probably move up at least a little bit in the rankings he's doing things right he needs like a performance that he could put a stamp on do we need to talk about sergey pavlovich and jesina rosen was that i saw some memes was that in ghanu uh no no it wasn't no no no what happened to pavlovich man this this guy was like the murderer of the heavyweight division he killed everyone in the first time it was just like every single time he fought it was like this guy's gonna break this dude in 60 seconds or less and now we're we're going to decision the last two fights have gone to decisions i feel like it was like it was like a it was like a a nature thing it was a a a shark
Starting point is 00:37:22 no what yeah a shark came along right and was and was chewing up everybody just ripping fish to shreds just devouring and it was just like living its life on a blissfully unaware that there's other predators out there and just destroying just tearing through fish and then all of a sudden a killer whale named tom aspinall came and was like oh actually no you're you're lower in the food chain than you thought like i, I'm up here and you're down here. And now that shark's just kind of like lost its drive for that. It doesn't have it anymore because it knows
Starting point is 00:37:52 that there's predators out there that are bigger and scarier. I think he just constantly replays that moment because if you remember that knockout from Aspinall, he eats an absolute solid from Pavlovich just before. Yes, yes. He's always like, oh, shit. I think Pavlovich just replay and he's like oh shit i think pavlovich
Starting point is 00:38:07 just replays that moment like don't hit him just don't hit him yeah hit you back yeah that's the fight now he did deserve the win in fairness um jairzinho no i was guilty of not doing an awful lot there it was not it was not an exciting uh thrilling performance but he he got the win to gc's point though like what what is the value for pavlovich of continuing to kind of scrape out wins like this you need to get that like dominant knockout i'm i'm the scariest guy in this division thing back because he had a lot of believers in that and i i imagine that's still there i imagine there's part of him that's able to kind of summon that again this to me felt like the one that he would have been able to do it against though jarzino felt like the opponent that like you can get back on track here with a huge ko
Starting point is 00:38:49 and put yourself back in that like oh my god i'm he's so scary i can't wait for him to go back to the top the only kind of swung like he was in that mentality in the last 20 seconds of the fight and he put jarzino on his ass one time i thought we were going to see something there but then he immediately just got on top of him yeah did he not did he not hit him with a right hand and take him down like ankle pick him or something yeah yeah so we're giving him things he doesn't even deserve this he doesn't even deserve that one as a knockdown but uh look loke dog inside the mega made i've had a fantastic fight so we should talk about this one um loke dog had a tough first round pulls it back in the second and then holy shit man just that third round just riding out that
Starting point is 00:39:31 front headlock position elbowing the shit out of saeed where this corner lose their fucking minds they're like what are you doing man jesus christ do anything this bad isn't from dagestan but crazy man loke dog fight fight win streak i think yeah i fight win streak 3-0 in the ufc Do anything. This bat isn't from Dagestan, but crazy, man. Logue dog. Five-fight win streak, I think. Yeah. Five-fight win streak. 3-0 in the UFC. That highlight reel last year against Sopag.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Gets a win over Ricky Simone. Now beats in Armaga Medov. I mean, like, the sky's the limit for this dude, man. The crazy thing is, this was, like, his most boring performance. Like, he's just... I know, but, like, the boring performance like he's no but like the bounce back that he had like you you mentioned it pg that first round uh like the the spinning shit and like the the head kicks that saeed came out with it looks like it looked like low dog was
Starting point is 00:40:16 like what is going on man this is this is a lot to deal with and then to bounce back like that was was a fantastic performance by the way i'm saying that as a compliment. He's pure action. This was the bottom. This was the bottom that we get. The performances are all better from here. He's incredible, man. I love that. Shout out to the purple shorts, man.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Yeah. I mean, guy knows ball going with the purple shorts. I agree. Dare I say, Paul Hughes walked so Lokedog could run. Dude, what's up with the Novogomedovs? I mean, three straight weeks that we've seen one fight, they're 1-2, could be 0-3 if the judges scored a little bit differently
Starting point is 00:40:50 last week between Paul Hughes and Hussman. We were robbed! We were robbed! Man, he is an exciting dude. He's so good. Nagamedov, four losses on his record. What do they do with Nagamedovs when they lose four times? Out the back and put a round in the locker? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Four times! What the back and put a round in the back? Yeah. Four times? What the fuck, man? You're bringing our aggregate down. You're bringing our scores down. We have a new second name now. They force him to change his last name. You're no longer the fam. Yeah, fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:41:20 But Vinicius Oliveira, big, big fan. Logue Dog's a way better name. We should just keep it there. Lads, I'm at pains to go on to the next fight because uh it's you know it's triggering um i was asked for a pick with the uh the parlay boys and uh i gave one in i said uh mike davis like immediately by the way immediately it was like hey man i just wanted to see if you wanted to do a parlay pals pick. If you're interested, you know, maybe do some research, get in the lab a little bit. Come with your best selection possible. And let's win some money, man. Let's let's do it this weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm telling you, as soon as I hit send, the bubbles were up. Mike Davis. I didn't even I wasn't even able to put my phone down. Like, I was just like, hopefully Pete's you can join us. And like, as my hand was on the way back down to put the phone down. I was just like, hopefully Pizzi can join us. And as my hand was on the way back down to put the phone down, I was like, bleh, Mike Davis. I was like, all right, man. Lock of the week.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Lock of the year from Pizzi and big Mike Davis. Me, Rick, Frank. I mean, we all handle our business. We get you to the Mike Davis fight like we're supposed to. And then probably one of the weirdest Mike Davis performances we've ever seen. Bizarre. He pulled guard four times in the first 90 seconds when he pulled guard for the first time i i text the group immediately and apologize i shit you not i was sitting on my couch i just whispered to myself i put my head down i was like we're fucked okay can i say i i
Starting point is 00:42:40 have to expose something do you remember connor what my reaction was when you told me he took Mike Davis? Yep. Yep. Rick was actually sitting right next to me, and I was just like, all right, Pete, he's taking Mike Davis in the parlay. And he was like, what? I said, what? We're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:42:54 He actually said, I asked him who he was going to pick, and he was like, I think I'm going to go with Shamil, but it doesn't matter because we're going to lose because Pete's taking Mike Davis. I literally said that. Now, let me be fair. You split up. What was Rick's pick at fighter will throw punch at fighter? What was his? I picked
Starting point is 00:43:12 the goat Shamil, so don't hate it. You boys are obsessed with this dude. He's amazing. Let's give the small killer his credit. Yes, please. Dude, five straight. Brilliant. And look, when he first came to the ufc he looked like kind of like charles olivera when he first came to the ufc he looked too small for every
Starting point is 00:43:30 division he tried to compete in but he's filled out and davis despite his multi-faceted guard pulling techniques faraz was absolutely fantastic bombed away from top position looked like he's packing a bit more of a wallop than he did initially in his hands and he's just a really slick guy i'm sorry for us i'm sorry you are a better fighter and i should have picked you for the underdog money i apologize to all the people i'm looking at you right now i'm so sorry okay this is my first loss in four attempts i will be wow that's true it'll be better than ever shout out to you that's that's a that's a good record you're right on that uh charles olivera's name being mentioned here isn't a bad shout just from the perspective that like when i look at him he's kind of like this like underratedly slick striker
Starting point is 00:44:13 who also kind of has some sneaky grappling in him that you're you're not now charles olivera's grappling is not sneaky right it's it's more just the but also the lack of like the wrestling right it's the wrestling that's kind of the part that's like absent from the Charles Oliveira game, right? He's more in the jujitsu takedown realm and not necessarily shooting double legs from across the cage. But I feel like, uh, you know, there's similarity there in terms of like putting the striking and some of the, the grappling elements together. Um, so yeah, I mean, good shot by you just in terms of you, you were thinking about the
Starting point is 00:44:43 size, but I also kind of think in the game, like there, there are some similarities as well. Um, I wasn't, by the way, I believed that this was Mike Davis's fight to lose, but I also believe that, uh, uh, far as was being underrated. Like, I just felt like this line, uh, like I saw a lot of people on Mike and I was like, I don't know, this fight feels like a coin flip, uh, credit to him. Cause he made it not a coin flip. He kind of people on Mike, and I was like, I don't know. This fight feels like a coin flip. Credit to him because he made it not a coin flip. He kind of steamrolled Mike. His elbows were
Starting point is 00:45:10 savage. That elbow he hit Mike with in the second round, and his face just exploded. It looked like a coin you usually see over the top of the eye because of how much blood was coming out, but it was actually an elbow to the back of his head here, and it was just pissing blood. Every time he had it on the ground. It was all over the octagonagon it was like a fucking blood orgy in there it was actually i actually think
Starting point is 00:45:29 both these fights i mean farazan we mentioned it five straight wins seven of his last eight and then the the loke dog versus aiden amaga met off i don't think any of these dudes are ranked it just shows that insane depth that both 135 and 155 like that these guys are this class and they're they're not even reaching the top 15 yet yeah yeah it was quality uh we had wins from muhammad naim off on the undercard as well i thought he would finish um his opponent awfully on the night he did not let's let's talk about your boy shamil because gc and rick like i haven't seen the the group chat popping like this in a long time when this guy came in he said he was channeling usic looked more like tyson fury to me as he went about his
Starting point is 00:46:11 business but a big right hand drops thomas peterson in the first round there are images being put up online of this man with a gold belt around his waist gc why do you love shamil gaziaf uh i will neither confirm or deny whether or not I was responsible for said images with him with gold around his waist. But yeah, man. He's not spinning backfist, no?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Oh, spinning backfist took my picture. It's all good. It's all good. I was literally making a Photoshop during it. But I mean, I'm stealing pictures anyway, so it's all good. But I mean, I made the Photoshop as he was getting the knockout.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I don't know. He's just like, he's a character. character he actually shows some personality if you go on his social media like he tries to make jokes despite like not speaking perfect english or anything like that he tries to to have personality get the fans invested and things like that and then a division that's as shallow as heavyweight why not like you don't have to put on the greatest performances like just be just be slightly entertaining in the octagon and then have charisma and have personality outside to get the fans on your side, and you'll be a fan favorite within the division.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah, yeah. He certainly put some people on notice with that. Look, I mean, the first fight of the night, Jamal Pogues, I thought he won that fight, and people were like, yeah, I think there was a robbery, but not a ton of outrage for Jamal Pogues. Godziev gets robbed like that? People are banging down the doors at the UFC headquarters.
Starting point is 00:47:30 You're not wrong. I wasn't aware of his social media until this week when GC kind of exposed me to how funny he is on social media. He's just a goof. I like him. He's just so goofy. Yes, he's just such a damn goof the picture of him where it's the poster of him versus rosenstreich and it's him on one side and rosenstreich on the other and then him again in person on the other and he tweeted at rosenstreich
Starting point is 00:47:56 and he's like we've got you surrounded is one of the most all-time tweets i've ever seen i also kind of like him because he's sympathetic of like the idea of him being headlining some ufc fight night was really bizarre to me because i was like what the f is this i know but it was like nobody's ever heard of him and most prospects when they come to the ufc kind of like find out and he found out um but then i'm like okay now i'm now i'm sympathetic now i'm cheering for this guy to kind of get his lick back and and get on a roll and he's looked good he's looked good he's here to put bahrainian mma on the map yeah and he's doing so yeah absolutely yeah bahrain what a spot khk mma all the boys out there and they did a big kind of sprawling um boy up of a load of
Starting point is 00:48:41 european voters john cavanaugh was involved as well uh james uh james gallagher of course we know that uh mccoy f based himself out of bahrain as well but um terence mckinney back in the win column finishes demir hazovich who is one of the toughest motherfuckers honestly i know i know he's not exactly a heralded guy but he's been in the ufc for a very long time he used to be that one of those guys that was always on the undercard of those european events they do like in prague or hamburg this guy was always kind of on these things terence just blew the head off him in round one great to see him back another big personality from social media there is nothing that i love more than terence mckinney fight week because it means i will have several bets placed
Starting point is 00:49:24 on the under today i had uh terence mckinney fight week because it means I will have several bets placed on the under. Today I had Terrence McKinney round one and then I used the under one and a half in a parlay. I used the under two and a half in parlay pals and another parlay. It's just like we're feeding families out here. Terrence McKinney, I mean he is always good no matter who he's fighting. He came out and he's so chaotic
Starting point is 00:49:40 and he's so crazy. Immediately starts pressing the action and the commentary team is like, oh, Demir's trying to match this they're like you have to he's just so chaotic he's so crazy he forces you into that fight demir has been to like four decisions in his ufc in his like six fight ufc career and terrence is just like yeah it's not happening here man this one's ending in the first uh like the fact they gave his minus 140 on on the fight to end in round one was was a gift you said he's feeding families. He's recently had a child, so he's feeding his family.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Congrats on him getting that win and bringing some money home. Your girl as well. I mean, do we have drops here, Frank? No, no drops, no drops, no drops, no drops. Frank's not even listening. Yeah, Frank's checked out already. Frank's playing PS5 or something. He's just waiting for the recording, Dan, so he can throw it up on the podcast feed.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah, shout out to Jasmine, man. She's doing it, man. Frank is in fact here. He's showing us that he is here. Skin condition, still the way it was, completely blurred. It's absolutely mental looking. But Jasmine Jazaviches, boys.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Did I say that right? Yeah. Jasmine Jazaviches. Jazaviches. Yeah, I mean, what more can you say? She lost in september of 2023 to tracy cortez and now she's already back on a four fight win streak and she it feels like she's looking better every time we get out the ground game the way she handled myra boy and silva on
Starting point is 00:50:55 the ground was just a thing of beauty i mean she just keeps getting better and like the craziest part is i feel like every time i see her fight and they show the tail of the tape i'm like she's 35 i feel like she's like 28 she's it feels like she's young in this game it feels like she's only getting better absolutely i can't believe that well she said she entered late she entered late that's why but she was saying like i'm gonna be a female gsp i compare her more to like a female mirab where she just suffocates people's souls to the point where it's just like, just fucking, just envy. I can't.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I think she's a little, she's a little more dangerous once it hits the ground than Marab, right? Marab's kind of like letting you be there and then getting up and doing it 10 more times until you're just, until you're completely done. When you get on the ground with her,
Starting point is 00:51:42 she's pretty much unstoppable. Like her top game is absolutely crushing and it's not like a wrestler like pressure control she's trying to finish you down there and her success rate is really high like and the and the hands are not bad either like she's looking really good on the feet i'm i'm starting to believe in in this is like you know title contention territory like i wasn't i wasn't sure what to make of her early on every performance i'm just like yeah man she's she's a tough uh person to deal with because she's also so big for the division she's just massive and when she gets
Starting point is 00:52:18 you down she as pt said like it's suffocating she's on top of you and she's raining punches um and on the feet she's no slouch either. I believe there's a path to her getting into title contention in a real significant way. Can we talk about the fall of Mayra Buenasova? Man. January 20th of 2024. We are talking about a year and some change ago. She is fighting Raquel Pennington for the UFC bantamweight title as a
Starting point is 00:52:45 minus 170 favorite. And it was all but written, according to the fans, that she was going to become the champion. Loses that one, gets finished by Macy Chazon, and now 30-27 on all three judges' scorecards when she moved down to 125. I mean, it's just crazy the hype that she was on. And the Holly Hol the win her last win back in july of 2023 got overturned to a no contest because of the the popping on the test like it's uh it's it's crazy to see how how much it's changed for yeah and this was kind of the the new coat of paint right like it was like we're going to 25 and we're gonna we're gonna make a run here and it's halted before it even started. She's a fight nerd as well, right?
Starting point is 00:53:25 She moved to fight nerds. Isn't that right, Rick? Might be. That I don't know. Yeah, they did say at the beginning of it that she's a fighting nerd. They've been on a roll lately. I was going to say, they might kick her after that. It's the Nurmagomedov that he was talking about earlier.
Starting point is 00:53:41 It's just like, we got to get out of here. She's going to walk in, and it's just going to be dark, and all you're going to be able to see is just the bright light of carlos prote's cigarette it feels like we gotta talk oh man incredible yes exactly yes so good i think the ufc might have known before we knew just looking at the matchmaking it's what we were talking about earlier with Izzy and Imovov. They matched her as if she was on her way to the glue factory from the second she left that Raquel Mannington fight. Because Macy,
Starting point is 00:54:16 we know that she was coming on. She's surging at the moment. She looks a new fighter. And Jasmine, the same. Those were the two names. It's, again, not giving Mayra Varna Silva a lot of room to kind of make a second run at this belt, right? And I think that's probably because of how badly that went. That fight was horrendous.
Starting point is 00:54:40 The Pennington fight was one of the worst. I feel like we're seeing less and less of those. Like those kind of like, hey, get a win here and then kind of build upon it. We're seeing less and less of those like those kind of like hey get get a get a win here and then kind of build upon it we're seeing less and less of those and i'm not sure if it's like if it's a feeling of like the fighters themselves are going like if you're myra bonasova you're like okay i lost this title fight but i'm i'm still good i let me have a top rank contender i'm gonna beat them and then i'm gonna go up i wonder if it's the fighters if it's the ufc but we i feel like we're just seeing so so few of like fighters who are at a top level getting getting this kind of like bounce back type uh opponent where it's not like the stakes continue to be as high as they were the last fight sometimes just lower the stakes but it just feels like every time she's an example isriata sign is
Starting point is 00:55:22 an example from this card where it's just like every single time you fight, there is no lowering of the stakes. Everything is ratcheted up. It's against an absolute killer, and there is no time to reset. I feel like we just used to see them more. I don't know. Maybe it's just me misremembered.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah, Bogdan Grad with a massive debut. Did you say you got a bonus earlier, GC? Yeah, I did. I mean, a sick turn of events in that fight too, man. He was struggling in the beginning and fights all the way back and gets a nasty finish. So shout out to him, $50,000 richer as well. And we talked about Hamdi somehow winning that fight.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I felt like that was a wrong scorecard, man. I thought that was Pogues. I don't know if y'all saw the video of Pogues too. He was leaving the arena in his car and he was basically just like, I won that fucking fight. Fuck Hamdi. i was like damn my friend had him like he sent me the message about two hours before the event he's like what do you think of this it was it was like you know favorites for the most part and he was like what do you think of the first fight and i was like i don't know like who the fuck knows that that's going to go? And then when before the scorecards are read, I text him
Starting point is 00:56:26 and I was like, hard luck, man. Hard luck with Hamdi. Didn't need to be betting on that one. Hamdi versus Jamal Pogues. Minus 110 each way, I think it was. No need to bet. 9 a.m. Eastern. No need to bet on that one. He knows who he is. Seek help.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Seek help for what is wrong with you. Should have went with Gautiev. Come on. That's the way to go. I'll be on it from now on. Again, boys, I just want to apologize again. It's alright, man. We're here for you. Just never, ever
Starting point is 00:56:56 let it happen again. But you know, when I win the Royal Rumble, this is going to be overshadowed completely. I'm buzzing. I'm buzzing for the Royal Rumble. This is going to be overshadowed completely. I'm buzzing. I'm buzzing for the Royal Rumble. I'm about to take a little break and then I'm locked in. Six o'clock. I got a big bet
Starting point is 00:57:12 on Charlotte Flair. I mean, that's my bet of the night, boys. If Charlotte Flair doesn't win the Women's Royal Rumble, don't call. Don't text. Is that what we're doing? I need to put some action on this to keep myself Oh, you don't even know Connor and... Who are you with? Frank. Oh, you don't even know Connor. And who are you with Frank?
Starting point is 00:57:27 No, you're with me and Jordan or that one. That one, I don't feel nearly as good as I think. Really? Yeah. I think this is a big toss of a year in the men's. Uh, and then I'm big on,
Starting point is 00:57:36 I'm heavily, heavily exposed on, on the Charlotte flair, uh, to win the women's. And then, uh, Jacob fought to,
Starting point is 00:57:43 uh, bet the max it's limited to 50 Jacob Fatu, bet the max. It's limited to 50 bucks, but I bet the max on most eliminations for big Jacob Fatu. So yeah, it's going to be a great night. Having some people over for it.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I mean, I'm having a party here up in the old Casa de Conner. We should stick on Interstellar. Honestly, yeah, when the evening starts wrapping up, I'll just pop this bad boy open. Back in my studio, get the...
Starting point is 00:58:06 Oh, shit. There it is. I thought it was gone. I thought it was gone. I was like, oh, shit. I lost it in the move. This is actually the only movie I own on Blu-ray. I like how he's able to open it. It's just...
Starting point is 00:58:21 Fully functional prop. The confidence he had in opening that thing, man. That must be stuck under the wall very well. We got a pro crew in here. As long as we stay on this shot, I'm looking. This is my professional studio. We should say that this is Uncrowned Saturday across Yahoo Sports. If you go to Yahoo Sports, you're going to see it's Uncrowned Saturday
Starting point is 00:58:41 because we had UFC this morning into this afternoon. We've got Royal Rumble coming up for WWE. And we've got big boxing fight between Benavidez and Morel coming later as well. So you got the wrestling. You got the MMA. You got the boxing. You got it all on Uncrowned Saturday. Shaheen and Shadi already has an article up.
Starting point is 00:59:01 UFC Saudi Arabia. Ima Bob shocks Adesanya with thunderous TKO. Shout out. There it is. Rick disag Arabia. Imabov shocks Adesanya with thunderous TKO. Shout out. There it is. Rick disagrees. Bad stoppage according to him. Would you say worse stoppage you've seen? I already see the comments and everybody's like, oh, it's a fine stoppage. These guys are glazing Izzy.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Don't put that bad juju on me. We got glaze allegations? Oh, they're saying we glazed them. They're saying we glazed them. I mean, to be fair, Imabov just knocked out Israel Adesanya and we spent the first eight minutes talking about Izzy. So I understand. We start the show immediately afterwards. It goes a minute by chapter.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You're not a legend. What do you want us to do, man? If Imavov is due, I'm talking about I'm making fights for him with Sean Strickland. You can see the start. I was in shock. I was still locked on the screen.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Oh, yeah, you were locked. You were actually you know what speaking of that uh and we were just talking about the royal rumble you know i made like the fight day post and i included the royal rumble in the trifecta you know more oh you're not gonna do that dude the amount of people that let me know that they won't be watching the royal rumble tonight i'm just like sounds good man what the fuck i do not care if you are not watching it i am not bothered by you oh my god dave benavidez uh sorry this is not an mma statement dave benavidez amazing for casual fans checking out he is unbelievable and morel's gonna match it too it's it's it's poetry emotion award dude it's gonna be fantastic are we going i don't know i feel like we're going to benefit
Starting point is 01:00:22 this benavidez you say poetry you say. I feel like he's more like hard rock or like metal. Both the dudes crack. They hate each other. It's going to be a war. Going to go right into that after Royal Rumble. It's a fantastic evening. Yeah, he's a savage. That's on after the Rumble, right?
Starting point is 01:00:38 I forgot the ring time. I think it's 11-ish. I want to look it up. It said 11. So we're doing the triple. David Benavidez, John Cena, and Charlotte Flair. That's the triple. Don't feel great about the John Cena. Charlotte Flair, take it to the bank.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Why don't you feel good about his favorite everywhere? No, no, no. It moved to CM Punk. It moved to CM Punk. Currently, right now, CM Punk plus 100. John Cena plus 150. Oh, my God. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I have things to do. I have to assess things. Happy Uncrowned Saturday, everybody. I'm sorry if we glazed Izzy too hard. One of the greatest legends we've ever seen. I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry for the glazing. Fucking.
Starting point is 01:01:16 We're talking about Izzy going to retire. I'm a glazed king over here. Wow. Professional glazer. Jay Glazer. Jay Glazer. Yeah. I was thinking that. Right, l glazer. Jay Glazer. Jay Glazer. Yeah. I was thinking that.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Right, lads. Frank's saying, no, we can't say that. Frank keeps logging onto the Zoom, turning his camera on just to shake his head
Starting point is 01:01:34 and then turn it back on. He's doing the John Cena. He did the John Cena. He can't see him. Lads, I love yous. Fantastic. First leg of One Crown Saturday.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Second leg, Royal Rumble. Third leg, Benavides Morel. We're going to have a great time. We'll be up all night throwing money needlessly away on crazy picks. I definitely won't give up. You shut your mouth. Charlotte Flair's paying for my kid's college education tonight.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Number 29 is going to win the Royal Rumble for the men. That's all I know. That's what I'm locked in on. Have it in the women's too. I'm going to be like Michael Jackson at the Grammys in 85. I'm going to have about eight of them in my hands when I come in on Monday. But that's all we've got for you today. Thank you so much to everyone.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Thank you so much to Mysterious Frank. Thank you to Rick. Thank you to GC. From me, PT Carol, we love you very much. Enjoy on Crown Saturday. We will see you on Monday

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