The Ariel Helwani Show - White House card latest, Arman Tsarukyan watching Ilia Topuria's pockets, P4P crossovers, more

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

The Boys in the Back kick off the show with the latest flurry of updates about the UFC's planned White House event (01:50), including Conor McGregor and Dana White hinting at McGregor headlining the card.Next, they touch on Arman Tsarukyan's comments about Ilia Topuria's wealth (35:27), before delivering their P4P crossovers (48:58), inspired by Topuria's continued war of words with boxer Terence Crawford.Finally, the Boys listen to your voicemails (1:29:23) and answer your Super Chats (2:16:50).

But boys in the back But boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. What is good? We are back with another episode of Boys in the Back this time. Thursday, September 18th, beautiful day here in New York City. I am one-third of the boys in the back, Connor Brooks, join alongside me. As always, the man, the myth, the legend. The man your grandfather tells you stories about.

Does that make Ariel the grandfather? Because he always tells the stories about me trudging through the snow and doing 17 jobs. Trudging through the snow uphill both ways, 17 jobs, sending emails. The riskiest email that's ever been sent in the history of emails. A gun was to his head. If this man doesn't answer, he dies. Mr. New York, Rick. Thank you, Jackman.

Frankie, the final third. The last piece of the pie, more like. Mr. Mysterious, Frank, how are we doing back there? I am the piece of pie that everybody looks forward to having. Extra crispy. Shrimp cocktail? Shrimp cocktail, there you go. I'm really enjoying the confidence from Frank.

We usually don't get him coming out this hot. You know, I think he feels a little self-conscious earlier. He was asking you to do a mic check and he kind of just mumbled a few words. And then I gave him the old, now you know how we feel. We team up with these great, you know, hey, Frankie, how we doing, man? He's like, good. Okay, all right. Well, he brought it today.

He brought it today. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling great. No big MMA or boxing this weekend. There's a KSW card. There's an octagon card, but no UFC, no major box. We don't have it like we had it last week with Canelo Crawford and NoJ UFC. That is for sure.

But there's still quite a bit to talk about. And we'll start with no UFC this weekend, but what could potentially be the biggest UFC card in history next year. in June of 2026, and that taking place at the White House. Yeah, we've heard some, I don't want to say significant, but we've heard some things that make me think that this is starting to take shape. Okay, so I'll say right off rip, I was like the number one hater on this. I was like, nah, that ain't happening.

Not a hater, doubter. Doubted. I severely doubted it. But, I mean, we're now like, what, three months since this was originally mentioned? Yeah, something like that. At least two months since this was originally mentioned by Dana White. Now he's had real meetings with Donald Trump at the White House with actual plans behind them, bringing Kayla Harrison an American champion to the White House as well.

It is really, really starting to feel real. Obviously, Dana White has mentioned it himself. We're still five months away from February, where they would even start to begin planning this card. So, like, who actually is going to be? be on the card? We don't know, but names are starting to float around. We heard earlier this month from Connor McGregor, who says this is his card. This is his card to be on. We have a video of that. Let's take a look. Both. Both, both. Are you excited about this? I mean, have you thought about it? I mean, it's a pretty cool thing. I'm ecstatic. The Macca's back. And what better event

than to grace the White House long for a strainer. What I do best. I'm very, very excited, very eager, very motivated. Bring it on, baby. Do you think that's when you maybe come back. I mean, what about come back for you as far as fighting? I'm very happy. I'm very happy that it's June. It was on in July. Now it's the month earlier. Even better. Bring it to April. Why not? Let's celebrate the birthday early. I celebrate my birthday months in advance. So we could potentially see maybe possibly White House Connor McGregor. That's definitely. That's definitely. That's awesome.

For sure. That's my event. That is your night. That is. I love the way he's talking that. A lot to unpack there. Also, I celebrate my month. I celebrate my birthday months early. Yeah. Months in advance. Also, let's just move the, like, it's not like it was just like, we're doing this because it's like Dustin Porre's retirement.

We're doing this because it's the independence of the nation. There is a, there is a significant reason why that event is happening on, in that time frame. And he's just like, nah, fuck it. Do it two months early. Do it in April. Yeah, do it in April. No, I think they're going to do it as close as they can possibly do it.

Oh, 100%. Because obviously, D.C. is going to be a. Madhouse come July 4th, 2026, obviously the 250th anniversary of the nation's independence. But yeah. Seems very certain. Which gives me a little bit of confidence. Yeah. He has seemed certain before on many things and has mentioned many different fights.

We've heard many names to the point where he was announced for UFC 303, I believe it was last year, International Fight Week. Michael Chandler, Connor McGregor, he ends up having to pull out due to injury. so him saying a definite doesn't give me like oh he'll be on it he'll be on it like there's no doubt but him being like probably McGregor on the White House card and he says not definite it's my card we are not at the point where we can say definitively that Connor McGregor is going to do anything at this point in this career like we're past that point where we can just go he says it's going to happen it will happen there used to be a time many many moons ago where this man would say something and it meant something and it would definitively happen I am kind of

confident that if he is healthy, he will fight on this card. He is mentioning it. We'll get to it later. Dana White is mentioning it. And if you are Connor McGregor and this opportunity, this moment, this magnitude, this stage is not the thing that would get you up and make you want to fight anymore. There's nothing. There is nothing else left. Go back to Noce UFC in 2024 at the sphere. The amount of people, fighters that were like, I want to fight on this because it's UFC at the sphere. how much Sugar Sean and Marab talked about how much of an honor it was for them to be headlining the sphere show. One time only, limited.

And I was going to say, Dana the entire time was like, no, man, this is one and done. Like, I know we're in Vegas. I know it's the fight capital of the world. I know that's where the sphere's at. This is one and done, man. We're not doing another one of these. This is massive production. Same thing for this.

He's said in multiple interviews, you know, people in Jess being like, oh, you're not going to do this more than once. He's like, no, man. This is it. You got one shot at this thing. you know, even if it goes well, there's no chance of this happening again. It's a very, very monumentous special occasion. So I agree with you. If this doesn't get you out of bed, if this doesn't get you training, if this doesn't get you back, there is nothing that will.

Yeah. Compare this to what he was supposed to do last year, 303 at Team Mobile against Michael Chandler. This is two different universes. Yeah, the only thing that might compare from a Connor McGregor personnel's perspective would be like Croke Park, right? It would be like, we're doing an event just for you at Croke Park, that might be the only thing that's comparable. As far as a global scale, this is going to be one of the biggest fights that's ever been put on and it has to appeal to somebody like Connor McGregor. Gregory says a lot of things. We don't have to, you know, we don't have to kind of take him with a grain of salt. But Dana White was on impulsive this past week. I was aware of that. That crossed the radar. Two things came out from that. Good on Logan

and Mike doing a great interview with Dana White, getting a lot out of them. But he had this to say about Connor's potential on the White House Guard? I need people that I can seriously rely on for this one. People talk shit about Connor. I'm telling you, I've been in the fucking trenches with Connor. Connor is a guy that has fought injured. Connor is a guy that a fighter has fallen out, and we slid in a stylistically bad matchup for him.

He doesn't care. He literally will fight anybody. But does he care enough to actually make a fight right now? Like, does he, is he actually, when's the last time he fought? He and I have been talking nonstop, and he's like, I'm dead serious. I want this. You know, I'm training. I'm back in the pool.

I'm doing all the shit. So we'll see. As we still got a long way to go. We still got a long way to go to February until we start making this card. So we'll see how it plays out. Like he mentioned there, we still have a long way to go until they even start planning it. But the fact that McGregor is calling him and he's dead serious and says that he's back and trying to love how he says he's back in the play. is he's back in the pool

if that really means anything. But he says he's dead serious. So we now have Connor saying he's dead serious. We now have Dana confirming that he is dead serious. And I take this with a bit of seriousness because of how much he's just kind of brushing away John Jones. Who's a massive superstar in his own, right? He claims that he's the goat,

and a lot of people agree with that that he is one of the greatest fighters of all time, American as well. Probably the most famous American fighter right now, without a doubt, especially in the UFC. at least in MMA. So the fact that he's just kind of brushing him to the side, he's just like, nah, man, billion to one.

Go ahead, I'll take $5 on that. I'll pay out $5 billion if he ends up fighting on the card. He's like, bro, it's not happening. But he's actually giving real like, yeah, man, McGregor, it's looking like we're actually going to try and get this guy on the card. No, you raise a great point. That is definitely evidence in the favor of some legitimacy being to this. Two other things I notice.

Dan is being a little bit cheeky there. The days of like, Connor McGregor will fight anybody and step in on short notice. and this and that. Those are the days I'm talking about. That's 10 years ago. That was the comment. The part that also gives it more legitimacy, like you pointed out, the fact that he's shooting down John Jones and propping McGregor is the fact that when McGregor was talking about his own comeback around the time that Roadhouse was kind of releasing and he was like, I'm itching for a fight. I need a fight. I need a fight. Dana White's line at that time was it's not, he's not quite ready yet. I haven't seen him in a serious camp. Dana kept doing the same thing he's kind of doing with Jones. which was like pushing it off, pushing it off, pushing it off, pushing it off.

Now, sitting here many months out, he's going, no, no, Connor wants it and I want Connor. That is the difference between the last time when they couldn't align on kind of Connor coming back and the timing of that and getting into the pool and yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. Now he's like, Connor's calling me every day. He's talking about 10 years ago like it's yesterday. He's talking about I want him on this card. It's going to be the biggest card. The things are aligning for this to become a reality if all the pieces are. are properly aligned come the time that it actually happens.

To become a reality and just become one of the biggest spectacles we've ever seen, I want to play one more clip from Impulsive, and then we can kind of discuss the card more in detail. But Dana got real about what it could potentially look like when the fight card actually happens. How do you decide the head ladder? You know, what I want to do is build, you know, the best card that we've ever built that just make people go crazy.

be live and free on CBS from the White House. Yeah. Wow. For the people. Yeah. Oh, this might be like one of the most viewed fights of all time then in that case. I mean, even people in other countries want to say in the way that we're doing this thing, like let's say, this is this is goofy, but this is the opt-in on, right? We're building this arch, almost like the St. Louis arch like this.

and the lighting grid will go above the octagon. So when we shoot this fight, right, this whole backdrop will be the White House. And then when the cameras move over and fights this way, it's all the Washington Monument on this side. Then there's a park that's sort of connected to the White House. And we'll have 85,000 people there with big screens. And we're going to do concerts.

We're going to do UFCX there. we're going to take over D.C. the whole week. Wow. Yeah. The way he's describing it is incredible. Like, if they actually are able to have the backdrop of the White House, because a major complaint from people about the sphere was, like, once the fight actually started, it just kind of looked like your ho-hum,

regular UFC fight. So if they're able to have it in a way where you can see the White House on the broadcast while these guys are fighting, you mentioned the Washington Monument when, like, the thing went over, but, like, the Washington Monument is kind of, it's, like, kind of far away from. Like it would be like this big on on the actual television, but it would still be really special. And if I'm not mistaken, he like, that is probably like the 15th or 20th time. I've heard him refer to like, there's this sort of like park by the White House. I'm almost positive he's referring to the Washington Mall, which is like a hundred percent

sure he's talking about that. Massive, massive, massive park that holds the Washington Monument, the Lincoln Memorial. It has World War II. It's like, it's lined with like the Smithsonian, the national air and stuff. Space Museum. It is like one of the most famous parks in the world. And it's like, there's sort of like this park connected nearby. It's like, oh, you mean the Washington mall? Yeah. Dana White's DC destination for people that come to Washington, D.C. Geography is just not on point, let's just say. But the concept, what he laid out there. Yes. Is incredible.

Like the thought of just like, for one, because of how limited this event is going to be in terms of attendance and actual like people on the ground there, right? He's talking about potentially putting 85,000 people in the mall with screens around and being able to have people see it. But in terms of people that are actually going to be around the cage, it's very limited, if anybody, right? They've talked about 5,000, I think was the number of total people who knows how much of that is like crew, where they're positioned. If it is a clear visibility, if it is a clear sight line from that cage to the white house in the background, it's going to be an iconic thing. It's going to be a thing that wins Emmys. It's going to be a thing that like is memorable forever. There's going to be photos

from that event that like we have photos of just like a yellow octagon for UFC 200 that people go like crazy over just because it looks different. When you look at the photos of that event and it's Connor McGregor and who knows who else standing next to each other and the white houses in the background of that cage, it's going to be something like pretty special. Okay. So that's what else I wanted to get into and it like kind of has me buzzing a little bit like them talking about the potential of being on CBS, anybody can watch, and you have Connor McGregor on the card, and the card is at the White House. It would undoubtedly be the biggest fight in UFC history. 100%. In MMA history period, for sure. Just like not even close. Like I know Habib,

McGregor, the storyline, 2.4 million paper reviews, whatever it was, this would blow it out of the water. Available on CBS, Connor McGregor fighting at the White House. Like my, like, the spectacle that that would be my parents would tune in people that never watch this sport would be tuning in people who aren't even interested in fighting are going to be tuning in like we talk about when we talk about the biggest events in combat sports we're always like can it attract a casual audience right what we typically mean by can it attract a casual audience is like people who tune into fights irregularly but like we'll tune into an occasional fight or maybe like this is like one of the first few this to me would probably have the opportunity to grab an audience that never watch

fights that has never seen a fight in their entire life, elderly, young, middle age, doesn't really matter. The idea that our country is placing a UFC fight inside a cage in front of the White House, on the lawn of the White House, would be a cultural event that really transcends fighting altogether. It would be something like we're looking at like kind of like a mock visual. I promise you won't look like this, but no, nor would there be that many people just kind of like a mock up. Yeah, I love how just like random people there. I think, I think we have a couple more AI mock-ups. Oh, yeah, there it is.

This looks like maybe McGregor versus Max Holloway or something. Shout out. It's almost like a point-down, I see. And then I think we did a, yeah, they're me and you. This is the, this is AI. Sorry, me and you? This is AI's best guess at me and you fighting at the UFC White House. It looks good, man.

Which one is me? What do you think, the one with the hair, bro? I know, but like, and then I'm the bald one. The bald jacked one. Also, are we fly weights? Also, did we shrink? They nail. shrink. We're bigger than the cage itself. We're twice the hike. We're super heavy weights. Look at us, man. And I got the, we got the venom shorts on. Yeah, the octagon is looking awfully like, like, a dog or child cage. Yeah, it looks. It kind of looks like a dog park that also like, I love how like the UFC logo is like EPE. But yeah, shout out, man. Also, I called it a child cage. Yeah, we need to talk about. Playpen. Play pen. That's what I meant.

Play pen. when we would put him in the playpen, I'd call it baby jail. Like, I'm like, should I throw Logan in baby jail? So that's where- So he's a convict, huh? He has never escaped, actually. He's a baby convict.

One of the thing that I think is crucial to this is him talking about placing, like, the video boards, 80,000 people watching them all. And they're going to do UFCX there. And it was supposed to be on the 4th of July, but now it's looking like it's going to take place in June just because of the sheer magnitude of the 250th anniversary

and how much is going to be going on. I actually think that plays in their favor to kind of be like a part of like the month long festivities or to like kick off the festivities for the 250th anniversary because there's a chance of getting lost in the mud if it's actually on July 4th because there's just going to be so much going on. I think that being in June helps them. And also having this like limited occupancy inside the White House lawn and then like 80K opens it up to fans to just come to be like I just want to be in. in D.C. for the event. I just want to be there. So all these people are just going to take over D.C. And it's just going to make the fight that much bigger. Yeah. It's going to be a massive event for that city. It's

going to be a massive event for the country. It's going to be a massive event for television. There's a lot of implications here. But all signs are pointing to this thing moving forward quickly. They are already planning and they will have to do to the logistics. The car

itself might not have full shape yet but the planning for how they're going to be able to pull this off is already underway. Oh, yeah. And I mean, well, well in advance, they're already having these meetings and, like, it's just not something you can play with. Like, doing something in the White House, like, it has to be done so far in advance. Even when Trump comes to, or somebody who's of political note, comes to UFC events,

even that is a production. Even that is, like, when we were media and Trump would be at the event, right? I'm recalling for me 244, I think was MSG for Nate versus Mosvidal, like, there's 10 extra layers of security in terms of people patting you down and the bag checks and all this stuff it is a whole production imagining what that would be like for the White House

is going to be absolutely insane Dana broke down a little bit more of what this could potentially look like with Shannon Sharp so the way ends everything that would normally happen at say the Legion or T-Mobile is going to take place at the White House

well at certain monuments you know the Lincoln Monument we might do the the way-ins uh you know yeah we're going to take over the whole city and then the fight will happen on the south lawn of the white house i boy who i know secret service of dana you could have said no it made it real easy on us because you don't understand what the protection that we're going to have to go through to make sure this thing is a locked down this has got to be fort knox so you know it's probably the most badass thing about obviously everything about it is the fighters will actually walk from the oval office into the and to the and

to the octagon. Like, if this is for real, dude, if they're doing weigh-ins at the Lincoln Memorial, like, in the lead-up and then who knows where they'll do, like, the press conference and everything, like, say they do it somewhere on the Washington Mall as well, like, just these historic monuments within Washington, D.C., it has a chance to be a spectacle, like, that I can't even really comprehend. It is hard to, like, think about it now. Like, bro, that will be making every national news outlet, like, the breadth, And the fact that if it is Connor McGregor, that is a name that everybody knows. My mom knows Connor McGregor.

My grandma knows Connor McGregor. Everyone knows who that is. Bud Crawford knows Connor McGregor. And Bud Crawford knows Cody Garbray, and that's it. Yeah, like, just like, it'll make every national news and, like, the... International. International. Of them being at the Lincoln Memorial, just like, oh, yeah, they are 170 or whatever it's going to be.

Like, it's just like, it's hard to comprehend. And then if they really walk out of the Oval Office, is one fighter going to be in the Oval Office and one fighter is going to be in the Lincoln bedroom and they're just going to make their way through. They'll find their way through the hallways. It'll be like the West Wing, they're walking down the hallways. You're talking about hallowed grounds.

Yeah, are the ring girls going to dress up as secret service stations? And we really need to start getting in the weeds of this. It really could get incredible. But, like, they have an opportunity to make this, like, the biggest thing ever in combat sports. It might be one of the biggest things in sports history. you're like just thinking like obviously the Olympic games right right kind of transcend um because there are so many nations involved in it but for a singular nation this has got to be one of

the biggest events that that anybody could put on and it is a little bit hard to fathom not from the perspective that like it's hard to fathom wanting to do something like this but it's hard to fathom that like our goofy little carny sport is the one that's doing it as opposed to like hey we wanted to do an NFL game on the mall like we wanted to figure out how to do something crazy like that or even on the lawn like you you kind of figure out something like that it would have seemed like it would have been made for a larger sport right with a more domestic fan base and an international fan base like football for example but it is kind of like incredible the timing of this with trump and his relationship with dana white and his his love for the UFC that this is what's going to do it and the eyes of the world are going to be honest The more we talk about it, the more I actually believe that Connor McGregor needs to be on this card because of the sheer magnitude of it, just because of how big of an event it is. I've been to D.C. several times my brother lives there. The Lincoln Memorial is just a constant influx of thousands of people every single day. These are massive, massive destinations with massive historical relevance. This would be a huge deal to do things like this. And then obviously you get on the White House lawn as well. You can't have. Just like a run-of-the-mill champion headlining the car. It would be very weird in hindsight as history reflects on this

to be like, wow, they really did it. And can you believe that Diego Lopez versus Yaya Rodriguez was the, like it would just be bizarre. It would just not feel right. Pantosia versus Amir al-Bazi headlines the UFC White House card. It's like, wait, what? It just feels like it has to be Connor McGregor, John Jones, somebody of that caliber.

Like, it can't not be. Because, like, you're going to get that incredibly casual audience that, like, does not give a shit about fighting that does not tune into any fights ever, but, like, they know the Connor McGregors and the John Jones and, like, the major, major players in the sport. It feels like you need the name to match that. Absolutely, and I think they will.

Look, we've, you know, played a few clips now. It is fairly obvious that Dana White wants Connor McGregor to handle this card, and Connor McGregor wants to headline this card. the only obstacle I can potentially foresee is the timing, right? If all of us, this is a very long way away. Connor has to be wrapped in bubble wrap and make sure he can get to that fight. If he does, I'm fairly certain he will headline this card.

I'd go as far to say Trump probably wants Connor McGregor on the card. Absolutely. Why wouldn't you if you're Trump? Like, he talks about like, we're going to make the biggest card ever, blah, blah, blah, very reminiscent of UFC 300 last year. That ends up being an incredible card and it lived up to the expectations. Like you had some incredible moments, the moment with Alex. Perera, the Max Holloway knockout, stacked from top to bottom. But in terms of like actual bring in value, Pereira versus Jamal Hill ain't cutting it for the White House card.

No, if you ask somebody now on the street who's not a diehard MMA fan, who headlined UFC 300? They could not fucking tell you. They'd probably tell you Max Holloway just engaged. They might not even know. They probably wouldn't say anybody. But there will be a day that comes when they ask, oh my God, do you remember that the UFC had an event on the White House lawn. They will remember that a Connor McGregor headline that event because that's likely to happen. Who Connor McGregor could fight? I mean, there's only one name that that gets brought up time and time again and he brings it up himself. See you at the top. Michael Chandler had this to say about the potential of the White House fight. The most important thing about this White House card

and whether I am a shoe in for it or not, when you're building a card of this magnitude, it's not necessarily even about putting on the best fight. It's about putting on the best fights that are the most reliable. Which fighters and which matchups, which marquee contests are going to happen on the White House lawn that have an almost virtual certainty of actually happening. In this crazy sport, there are no guarantees, but I'm about as sure as a guarantee as you possibly could be. Like I said, never missed weight, never pull out of a fight. And if I can walk to the octagon, if I can physically make it to the octagon,

I'm showing up that cage, that octagon door is closing, and I'm putting on a show for the fans. I think we're closer now than we ever have been. I've always said, if you're a betting man, don't put money on him necessarily coming back, but now this changes things a lot. In my heart of hearts, I think I'm fighting Connor McGregor at the White House, and that sure does make a ton of sense for a multitude of reasons. All right, so Michael Chandler saying that he's going to fight Connor McGregor is nothing new. It's been a saga that's been going on for the better half of five years now.

Like it's like three years this has been going on. He said in that video, closer than we've ever been. So, like, fight booked, poster made, UFC 303, it's happening. We're closer than that. I believe him only because I believe he might have had in the back of his head that Connor might not make it to their fight, and he did not make it to their fight. I think he is reading the T leaves the same way we are, which is how could Connor McGregor miss this? How could he miss out on this opportunity?

it feels closer than ever. So I kind of agree with Chandler. It's also interesting to me that he's like, I'm on that card no matter what. Like, if Connor or no Connor, I think Michael Chandler will be on that card. So I think he's kind of like voicing that, but also I believe that, right?

We talked about like who are the big American stars. He's one of the bigger names that you could potentially have, especially with a name like Dustin Porier, kind of moving to the side and retiring now. He's one of the biggest American names that you've got on the card. And so I'm certain that he will probably have a place on it. whether it be with Connor McGregor or not. But if it is Connor McGregor, if Connor McGregor fights in that card, obviously, I think

Michael Chandler makes a lot of sense. And like when it comes to the casual standpoint, like you don't have to sell that he's lost three in a row. You don't have to sell that he's lost five of his last six. You also don't have to sell Connor McGregor having not fought in forever and nobody. It's the highlight reels. It's the Tony Ferguson knockout. It's the getting on the mic.

Carter McGregor. That's how you sell this. and the casual audience will buy in. He's American. He'll sell his patriotism and like how he's American going against the foreigner and he's going to take him out and everything on the White House lawn and yada, yada, yada. It's a fight that will sell. And it's a fight. Fair play to both of them that when it actually happens will almost certainly be exciting. I agree with everything you said, but let me throw out a little food for thought. What if? Throw it out. I'm hungry. What if we existed in a world where? Connor McGregor fighting. at the White House. Michael Chandler fighting at the White House.

Connor McGregor facing Nathan Diaz at the White House. But Michael Chandler also on the card. Would you believe that that could be possible? Do you believe that somebody could bump Michael Chandler from the spot? First, I thought you were coachmaning me for a second.

I thought you were going to be like, what if they fought? And then they met on some other night. And then they met on a sleepy December night at Team Mobile. Yeah, I could absolutely see that. I mean, McGregor is the A-A-A-A-A-plus side of it. It doesn't really matter who he's fighting. It's just the fact that he's fighting. Make it versus Nate Diaz-3?

Yeah, absolutely. We haven't seen Connor McGregor fighting four years. So, like, it doesn't really matter. But to Michael Chandler's point about you need to put on fights that guys you can almost guarantee are going to make it to the fight, make it to the octagon. There's not going to be any funny business. Dana has reiterated that as well. Is Nate Diaz at a point in his career where you can trust him to make it to the fight of this magnitude?

Because of the circumstances and the stakes, I would imagine that Nate and Connor would rise to the occasion and both like make sure that they're showed up. You have to imagine the money's right. Like Nate Diaz is not currently in the UFC. So this is fantasy, right? This is, we're making up a world here where Nate Diaz returns to the UFC. but the amount of money that he would have to be paid for this and the exposure that he would get from it, I imagine would motivate him to be worth his while

and the fact that he gets another crack at Connor McGregor. I mean, I think that's a bigger fight. I think that's the fight to make. I'll do respect to Michael Chandler, who I think, as you said, has earned the opportunity more than anybody has. We talk about guys waiting for title shots, blah, blah. This guy's been waiting for one singular opponent, and it seemed like it was there, and then he lost it again.

I think Michael Chandler should get this opportunity. But if you're asking me what fight I'd want to see, if you're asking me what fight I think could still be made right now, right? Nate Diaz is a free agent. You could get Nate Diaz. It's not going to be a difficult conversation if you make the money right and treat them respectfully. I mean, Connor McGregor on the White House card, the money would be right.

The money would have to be right. To me, Nate Diaz versus Connor would be the perfect fight. Like, you have so much history there. You're talking about rolling back like Chandler and McGregor's highlights, You've got highlights of these two guys from two fights. You've got real, like, animosity and history. I think they actually kind of like each other, if I'm being honest. I think Connor kind of respects.

So much history. But there's so much there. Once the tensions start getting high, those two will bring it. You get the ancillary characters. You get, oh, is that a Nick Diaz appearance? It would just, it would really set it off. And I think that would be massive. Is that Captain America?

Is that Jake Shields? Oh, my God. Is that? Yeah. It would be incredible. And I think that would be the, for me, that would be the fight that I think would be most deserving of that spot. But I'm not mad at Michael Chandler versus Connor McGregor. Beyond those two.

Yeah. Michael Chandler, Nate Diaz, is there anyone else's hat you can throw in the ring? Only if it pertain to John Jones, not to Connor McGregor. Right, that's what I'm saying. Like, Connor McGregor, is there anyone other than those two? Max Holloway? Oh, who could fight Connor, you mean, potentially. Yeah, Max and Connor would be fucking amazing.

To me, though, I think there's a fight that I would really love to see for the White House involving heavyweights, but I don't, there's no way to pull this off. Obviously, Tom versus John would make sense, right? I don't know if, I don't know if that's the one you do because you, you walk Tom Aspinall in there, and then maybe he ends the John Jones experience on July 4th. You know, the American guy goes down to the British guy. that said i think tom would handle it quite quite well and classily in fact if if we were to cut a promo if i was tom aspinall and it you know come october what is it 25th his fight is is his fight on the 25th what's the date 25th october 25th come october 25th cyril gone goes down get your hand raised john jones time for you to come out of hiding july uh june what's the date do we have the date

It's sometime late June, June, yeah, sometimes. Sometime in June, I'm going to, you squandered the American dream. America gave you everything, and you spit in its face. You rebuked the promise that America gave you. You disrespected this nation. This is definitely in this country. I am going to come in write that wrong for America. I'm coming to the nation's capital.

I'm coming to the capital, and I want to see you there. June, 2026. And I'm going to live my dream. And I'm going to show, and, you know, yada, yada, yada. You do something like that. I'll keep the belt warm for you. Tom versus John is big. I got to be honest, what I really want to see?

It would never happen. John versus D.C. one more time. Oh, that's never going to happen. Just do it for me one more time. Super heavyweight. Who cares? We've seen some footage of DC in the gym. Yeah.

But I don't think he's going to. No, let's do it. That's what I want. Connor versus Nate is the one. I don't really have a number two. you because I don't think maybe we'll get Tom versus John. I'm not holding my breath on that one. I really do believe.

The way Dana is talking about it, it seems like there's no way. Well, it feels to me more like what we've seen in the past from Dana, which is, John, we were ready to give you everything. Like, we were ready to do anything you wanted and you spit in our face in the same way that Francis and Ganu had previously, right? They wanted to make Francis and Ganu a megastar. They wanted him to stay with the UFC. as he eloquently puts it, what the fuck was that? And he spit in their face. Truth be told, he didn't spit in their face.

He just took a better opportunity. But the way that Dana White is looking at it is like, you spit in our face when we wanted to give it to you. John was in that position and he said, no, I'm good. I'm just going to walk away. Dana's not going to forget that. Dana's not going to just easily forget that.

Now, here's where that changes. Connem Regger can't fight. Connum McGregor's hurt. It's a month. It's two months before the White House card. Back in the polls. He's trying to become the president. He's back in the race

for the Irish presidency and he just can't fight that call to John Jones probably happens pretty quick I think they need one of them on it They need one of them You can sell the American versus the Brit And there's obviously history between John Jones

and Tom Asper now But you can sell America versus England so easily Yeah again though I do fear And I wonder Do they want Americans to win Or do they just want Americans on the card? That's the part that I keep struggling with

It doesn't matter You just sell it that it's an American versus the name but is it a good look if the eyes of america are on this and on july near july fourth and all the americans go for oh for eight tom haspin i was a bad fucking boy that's your go man i'm asking was a bad fucking boy you're the one who baws every time he gets shown on the screen i'll make a prediction if that fight ever comes to fruition and we get a booking but yeah tom tom's a bad boy it's tom one but uh but we all know that uh i can't lie man going over this it like gets the juices flowing it gets me excited

It's massive. It is, it has potential to be so, so, so massive, like nothing that has ever been seen in this sport. Not in sports period, in my opinion. Like, there is nothing quite that is going to be able to match this in terms of sports history. Like, this is very unique. It's crazy. It's crazy. All right. Some other news and notes around the world of mixed martial arts. Armand Sarukin going after Elliot DePoria, but not for a fight or anything. Just saying, yeah, bro, he doesn't have bread like that. Yes. He doesn't have bread like that. Here, let's see. Let's take a look. This is in Russian, I'll translate. Seporia says he's now flying $200,000 private jets from Spain to the U.S. and back.

He's completely switched from business class all the way up to private jets. Can you afford that? And do you even see any need for it? Is it something you'd also want for? No, come on. Now this is Armant talking. You can't do that. I don't think he's flying from America on private jets because after the Olavera flight,

he was flying on United Airlines. There was a video that came out of him in the first row with the belt and this kid. Some people filmed him on the plane. I'm saying he tries to make it look like he's insanely rich. But in reality, I think he's flying on regular planes. Well, there's a video after the Olavera fight, which is now being shown. He's sitting there with his wife on a regular United Airlines flight going somewhere. He doesn't make that kind of money to be flying private jets from America to Europe or Georgia.

You can see the UFC belt in the carry-on cases because even if he made $2 to $3 million, just one round trip on a jet would cost him 400K to 500K. And there's a picture of Ilya with the BMF belt and the UFC belt and a bright red toporia red carpet leading up to a private jet. What do we make of Armin just basically like identifying

that Il... Brokest! It's just like wrong. It's just like... Yeah, I don't, like, I don't know what Toporia makes. He obviously has a shit ton of brand deals. He's making money from his social media. I mean, he has 11 million followers on IG that's generating some sort of revenue

for him as well. Like, I can't imagine just his fights are what is generating income for him. Yeah, my other thing is like, I bet his life's pretty good. I don't know if it's like, even if he's not flying PJs everywhere he goes, like, life ain't bad right now for Ilya and it's only going to get better from here, right? The opportunities are only going to get bigger and the money's only going to get higher. So I'm not that like, I don't know. I don't know if it requires further dissection, but it is interesting that, like, Arm and Sarukian is coming at this from like a perspective

of like he's faking it, you know? Like, it's kind of, uh, I wonder. And I wonder what Ilya Taboria's response will ultimately be if he does respond to this. I mean, Armin's got the money too, man. I mean, every time we see him, he's driving fancy cars. He's housing beluga caviar. His haircut is perfectly aligned every single time. He's probably got the private barber, always with him. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe the PJ wasn't available after the Olavera flight. He was also sitting front row on an international flight. Like, it's not like that, but he said, that's business class. That's just business class. You're in business class. We've got to get to the PJ. Armin, you want to know broke? I've never sat first class, period. How about

Comfort Plus? Have you ever sat in those? Oh, yeah. I sat Comfort Plus over to Des Moines, baby. I know I was in the back Yeah Yeah You were back And I think I think camera guy Nick with us was

Was sitting first class So Oh Shout out A little reverse order there Camera guy Senior producer Executive producer

Man of the people In the back there So yeah I thought that was I thought that was kind of funny I did think that was funny Yeah Arm was just like

I had the money Y'all There's poor people around Is this how he gets the fight By calling him broke Yeah just pocket boy pocket watching uh armist rican actually has another grappling match this weekend against benson henderson i think this is his third professional grappling match since the last time we saw him fight

yeah we just see this guy fight already dude please let's get it booked a lot of people are like any time i talk about yeah there's the face off shout out ac b j j when we talk about like iliotoporia and terence crawford like when we mention those two names inevitably i get three tweets that are like or posts on x that are like why are you disrespecting Armand Sarukian. We love Armin, bro. For not mentioning like Armin should be the next. We like Armin Sarucyan.

In fact, that is, I think, the rightful guy who should be fighting Iliate's Aporia. I think he's the number one guy in that division outside of Ilya. But, like, rightful, Armin, spectacle, Patty. Those are the two fights I want to see for Ilya. But Armin needs to fight. Like, Armin has not fought in a very long time. Remember, when he missed weight, he was speaking candidly and he was just like, Oh, yep, I wasn't a professional here.

I needed, you know, the back injury and everything like that. I let down Dana and the UFC. I need to take another fight before I fight for the title. Yes. That is sort of faded off now, and I think he could easily fight for the title next. He could. I imagine it will be Patty, but he could. Bro, he's sneaky brings in numbers, too.

He's a popular fighter. He's got a ton of followers on social. Like, he always brings in numbers, man. Yeah, he would be a great challenger for the belt. He would be a great champion as well. I think Armin would be great, and I'd like to see that fight. But I just want to see him fight. I don't care who it's again. I just want to see him fight again.

Not grapple. I can't imagine Elia will respond to this. Elia is too busy. Well, what if Ilya is like wiping his tears with dollar bills or something, like doing it? That used to be the Connor McGregor flag. Connor was like, you know, showing off his money. He needs to start his own like Spanish wine company or something. There you go.

It's the map of you are here in the Connor McGregor trajectory. And right now he is in the calling out. Terrence Crawford trying to get a mega fight over in boxing, so I don't think he has the time for Arm and Sarugian. Not a ton has happened on that front since like the Monday, Tuesday, when Terence Crawford said on this very set on the Ariel Hawaiian show, essentially just like, I don't know who that is, man. Am I going to make any money off that?

Am I going to make any money close to what I just made for the Canelo fight? Then I don't really give a shit about it, man. I'm not concerned about it. This dude is nobody. He's not Connor McGregor is what he basically said. Yeah, which he isn't. He is not. The stranglehold that McGregor had on the Combat Sports World at his peak was like nothing we have seen since. That is for certain. I will say a little bit of breaking news. No, no, go ahead. No, it's a little bit. That's what you'll be played a little bit. Rick knows. That was nice. That was nice. A little bit of breaking news. I did do the Dorman test.

Oh, yeah. Dorman, who's now become a mainstay on this program. Shout out to him. I'm about to celebrate his 35th birthday. Remind me his name? Uh, Zico, shout out to him. Hsiko, shout out of him. I'm ready to celebrate his birthday on Sunday. Big boxing fan, diehard boxing fan. We were talking a bunch leading up to Canello and Crawford. Uh, talked to him this week. And he was like, yeah, man, I can't lie.

I was watching the, I was watching the Terrence interview. I don't know who the fuck it is either. I don't have any idea what this is? And I was like, what? The way he started the conversation was, what weight class does Izzy fight at? And I was like, Israel out of Sonia? And he's like, and I was like, 185, but he's gone up to 205. before he's just like man any chance he could cut down and fight terrence at 168 i was like no and also

like he's not at that point in his career right now to get a fight with terence crawford like he's he's on a three-fight losing streak he lost the belt uh you know 15 months ago at this point however long it's been i was just like ah and i was like if terence is going to fight anyone it's going to be illy and he's like i don't know who that is i was just like what like damn like so terran's like i actually do believe terence now like boxing fans do not watch em I was like, dude, you have to go watch this highlight reel. Like, he is knocking people out. Like, this guy's a global superstar.

He's bringing the UFC belt over to Real Madrid. Like, this guy is a star. He's like, all right, yeah, I guess I'll check it out. And then he was like, how much money does he got? Is that guy broke? Is he actually flying on PJs? Is he flying PJs? I'll tell you what.

If he got the Terrence Crawford fight, he'd be in PJs for quite a bit. It's an interesting thing. To me, it continues to be this thing that's just like over here. I don't think there's any MMA fans that are interested in it. I don't want to see it. I truly do not want to see it. The peak that Ili is at, the skill with which he has right now, the game that he has in MMA right now, how hot he is undefeated, he's good on the microphone, he's good on these press conferences, he's good on Twitter. Everything he touches kind of seems to turn to gold. Just keep it

going in MMA, man. This is where Cona McGregor went here, and this is where everybody's like, keep Ilya going here. Because it is almost an assured loss. If it was boxing? Yes. It's not almost. It is an assured loss. Like you are talking about like actual David versus Goliath with Ilya Taboria versus Terrence Crawford in a boxing match. No, it is not, there is no speculation, there is no chance, there is no anything. Terrence would beat the brakes off Ilya in a boxing match.

I was like, what about M.A.? Like, Terrence do that some wrestling. I was like, get the fuck out. In that realm, Ilya would beat the fucking breaks off Terrence too. So that's what it is. There's just no need for it. Like, you do take that hit, like losing, like, especially, like, if you get finished. Like, you take that hit, sure, you make a ton of money and you get your name and your face plastered

everywhere and you become this massive superstar. But, like, man, just keep it going in M.M.A. My only potential caveat to that is it depends on what you do next after the boxing match, right? After the boxing match for Connor, it was kind of like, life's good, unmade. If Ilyotipal loses, let's say he does fight Terrence Crawford. If Iliot Soporio loses and then goes, all right, I flew a little too close to the sun, but I'm going to rededicate myself and come back in MMA. I'm confident he wins his next and then maybe he cuts back on track. So it really does

depend what happens next. I also don't think even if this were to happen, he's not making what Connor and Floyd made. Terrence and Ili are not making what Connor and Floyd made. That was a supernova like once in a lifetime type event. Terrence is getting so much love, rightfully so. He is a pound for pound great. He is a legend of the sport at this point, the wins that he's been able to put together, the undisputed weight class championships. It's unbelievable what he's been able to do. Doesn't touch. Neither of these guys touch the respective in their sport in Maymac.

Like Floyd Mayweather was a super duper megastar at the very end of his career. Like everyone knew who this man was. Floyd Money Mayweather. Like Terrence Crawford is just now starting to get in this spotlight. Honestly, before the Euro Spence fight, like he was known amongst boxing fans, but not to a casual audience. The dude was fighting on BLK Prime in December of 2022. That's 100% right.

Both of these guys are much more recent successes than a Floyd or Connor were at those time. Those guys were megastars. Now here's the good news for, especially Terrence Crawford, I guess for both, because it would need continued success from Ilya to Boria. Terence Crawford is getting up there. He's turning 38 at the end of this month. Yeah. But he could box Elliott Toporia when he's 41, 42, no problem. So he can sit and kind of wait, maybe do another fighter to himself.

And now that he has this respect among combat sports fans in general. and starting to get into the casual audience where people will tune in no matter what and you just build and build that legacy and that aura around yourself and affiliate deporia goes four, five, and O over the next few years then it could happen down the line

and it be massive, like an absolute spectacle. It's a great point and he's at an age and a weight class where he can still be a viable opponent for Ilya. All he has to do is just sit off on the sidelines and sit on that O and then he's still somebody. The thing is, neither of these guys are big enough

stars where if they lose their oh you can still do it no no if terran yeah it would be hard the the only thing that i could see from the boxing world that would kind of like come into play is let's say like a guy like a tank or ryan garcia or somebody like that started to chirp and it became real that maybe they could fight in iliotoporia that might be a world where all of a sudden somebody else cuts the queue but now terrence is in a great spot to get his next boxing match or this potential thing with iliette duporia which i think is a very very minimal chance at the moment of happening but he's in a good position for that for the next five years like there's no rush for something like that you just i i personally hope as an mma fan and as a as an ilia

toporia fan of what he's able to do i hope he doesn't look too much the canella i mean to the crawford side and like because he's always got a response he's always got something to say about like how bad he wants it and all this that like you know you go from like oh we could do we could try to do like this mega fight with crawford or we could fight armin suruki and on ufccc three years 27 in Las Vegas. Yep. And again, kind of looked at it as like a letdown. A let down from-

Rather than defending your belt again. Yeah. He seems like a guy who is motivated by greatness and those types of things. So I think he's, you know, realistically thinking about this. I don't think this is like a gimmick for Iliad Saboria. I think he really does want to box Terrence Crawford. But I also do think he is sharp enough, wise enough. And quite frankly, has not made as much money as somebody like a Conn McGregor had made at that point.

in order to think that he knows he's going to have to continue in MMA and he knows he's going to have to continue to rack up wins. I think of an Islam Makachev fight is much more realistic than a Terrence Crawford fight at this point. And so I think he has some big lofty goals that he could still potentially accomplish. That is a crossover that at the current juncture I do not really want to see. But that takes us to our pound-for-pound rankings for this week in honor of the chirping back and fourth between Elliot Deporia and Terrence Crawford. Pound-for-pound crossovers you would like to see. That's the way I interpreted it. Okay. Pound-for-pound crossovers that you would like to see.

Frankie, what's the order? Yeah, what is the order? It's Frank, Rick, and then Connor. Okay, nice. Now, now give a little preface here of what you did, Frank. I tried to explain it to you yesterday and you're like, already submitted too late. Already submitted my list. It's too late. So, uh, to to pull a Deadpool here. We had the conversation on Tuesday, right over here by the audio mixer. I remember it fondly. The three of us were kind of huddled in. We were like, let's do a crossover thing. Like, general crossover, anything goes, was the exact word that was used. And then cheekily, I was like, oh, I need this one in writing, making reference to the times where I have misunderstood the assignment. Then yesterday we learned that Connor versus Rick and I had a different idea. of what was going on. So my crossover lists are not crossovers I'd like to see. It's crossovers that we've already been given that I love completely. And to start us off with our number five, yeah, whatever, is Alien versus Predator.

And I want to emphasize here, I'm not talking about the movie. I'm talking about the concept of Alien versus Predator. This started in Predator 2, where if you just look up on the side, you could see the Xenomorph skull there. It was like, they just threw a little teaser out there. The Predator stalks from Planet to Planet. hunting different aliens, and they were like, look, it was probably a time where he was on a LV4-26 and killed a xenomorph. And I'm like, that's cool. So they did comic books, they did video games, eventually got to a movie. The movie was quite poor, if you asked me.

Excuse me. Yeah, go ahead. Don't disrespect the movie. Stay in your line here, all right? The movie was fucking fantastic. The movie was horrible. W.S. Anderson, phone that one at. Come on. Number four, the Jetsets beat the Flintstones. Everybody was asking for it, but they weren't actually articulating what they wanted. They knew they wanted something, but Hannah Barbaro was like, we know what the people want, and what it is, is to have the future house

and the house of the past to meet each other. That's the Flintstones and the Jetsons. It's in a magnificent series of cartoons. If you haven't seen it, you have to. My number three is... Were you more of a Flintstones or a Jetsons guy? I'm actually more of a Jetsons guy. I think I was too. I liked both, but I was more Jetsons.

I didn't like how all the animals were being forced to do mundane jobs in the Flintstones. It just feels a little un-based. Wow, that's a word. My number three is also conceptual, like, I'm laughing because I can already tell where this is going to go, but it's the concept of mixed martial arts. To me, especially with this picture showing UFC 1, I believe, this was like the idea of

who has the best form of martial arts. Is it boxing style? Is it jihitsu? Is it karate? You know, like that whole idea To me, it speaks like... Caratee. It speaks to me like the original street fighter

or even like Mortal Kombat. It's like just throw best in class, everybody and like, let's see who prevails. Now it's become its own reputable sport, which is in, you know, because of the crossover was so successful, now you can actually maintain an entire tool set of things that work from all of the different martial arts

to be an effective MMA fighter. I think that's amazing. I initially scoffed, but that was actually inspired. well fucking done my number two is you know how i love a good soundtrack to go to a movie and i think i've actually used this one on a previous list but it spawn the album now this is the actual like the original soundtrack for the spawn movie that had come out in the late 90s i actually can't remember when 97 i want to say don't hold me to it but the concept of this is the the producer

that put it together decided let's get like current new metal, alternative metal, or even just rock, and mix it in with an electronic music artist of the time. So you got things like Henry Rollins and Goldie, butthole surfers and Moby. Can we stop down a butthole surfers for a second? Is it a sick name.

What is that? So Butthole Surfers is a band originally from Texas that they did a song, I'm sure you know these songs. Oh my God, why can it? Coming down the mountain. Pepper? Isn't it? Pepper is the name of it. Yeah. And then Moby, you know, Hammy. from New York, right?

You can get slapped by Obie. Yeah. If you haven't heard this, I actually have this on vinyl. My dear wife went and got Todd McFarland to sign it for me because he actually did the artwork on the cover of it. It's just an amazing soundtrack. They did this concept again with a movie called Judgment Night, where that was hip-hop and rock.

So you had things like Cypress Hill and Pearl Jam doing things together. Just two really good albums, but again, my favorite being Spawn on the album. What's that? This is for The Movie Spawn? This is for the movie Spawn. But I think they realized that they were on to, something that transcended just the movie itself and so released it as

the album like this is the bona fide way to appreciate the comic book character is the soundtrack for the movie actually great yeah so I actually watched the movie again recently and uh they do put parts from this album in there but there is a little bit of like your normal film score

the film score leaves a lot to be desired you know okay my number one shout on Michael Jai White crossover of all time is also music themed but this is Run DMC and Aerosmith. Oh, yeah. That's, what else is there to say?

Like, this is the crossover of crossovers. The only other one was a public enemy and anthrax did something very similar around the same time. But the music video that they did for this, just the way that people were like, minds are blown. Like, they couldn't even conceive. Like, you can actually mix rock with hip-hop. Like, oh, my God. The fact that they did that has led the way to things like the Spawn album or even entire bands like corn, rage against the machine, not to put them in the same breath. But you get what I'm saying.

This is going to make me sound stupid, but why does this photo look like it was taken yesterday? It's like, I quote a camera. Why is that so good from a photo that's clearly ancient? You know, film is not necessarily bad. I know, but like, I remember. It was always more grainy. It was like the colors didn't pop like this. Sure, it's been, you know, doctored up a little bit.

Digitally enhanced, yeah. But, I mean, there's film stock sitting around that has beautiful images that are just waiting to be put on the internet and enjoyed. I mean, there you have it. Wow. I like it. It was a good list, Frankie. I went a different direction but that was a good list overall

not your obvious crossovers I have to confess for the first time ever I was on the same page as Frank so me and Frank are on crossovers in the past didn't want to have any fun didn't want to get the juices flown

didn't want to get creative we talked about it and this is where we landed Crossovers we want to see do we want to see Tarant's car no what crossovers do we want to see What is this? This is going to be BMW I-X

Sport Crossover Alan Iverson dribbling All right I'll deliver my actual list as you undress everything I'm about to say Number five I think you'll like this one

How about this? Let's start with number five I enjoyed Franks I imagine I'll enjoy this one But now it makes me odd man out This is not as cool You're really going to enjoy in particular

This one was a video game that I really enjoyed I went into it Not knowing exactly what this was, but when I saw the art and saw the cover, I was like, oh, this looks like an interesting game, took it, checked it out, and then bought it immediately. It's a game called Kingdom Hearts. Oh, yeah, legend. Crossover of Square, Annex, and Disney, where you're getting like Final Fantasy characters and Disney characters together. Most random pairing of all time.

This would have been very high on my list. It created an incredible franchise and a really, really fun game that I had no idea of was not in. anticipating. I was a big video game guy back then. I would know the new releases. This was not on my radar at all. And it was absolutely incredible. Kingdom Hearts is a super playable game. They have multiple versions of it now. Really enjoyed the crossover. Not two things that you would naturally think like Final Fantasy and Disney, but it came together to make a perfect mix. Quickly, do you know how this concept even came up to be? No, tell me. Two guys in an elevator, one from Disney, one from Square Unix. And they were just like, hey, you're in this building,

whatever. They had a short conversation. By the time they left the elevator, they had thrown this concept out. And they're fucking brilliant. And they let their team's hand it. I'm just, what do you have a good crossover? You have a good crossover? Nailed it. Thank you for that backstory. That makes it even better that it was just like, yeah, should we do it? Fuck it. Whatever.

Number four, a little more of an obvious one, but one that I think a lot of fans were highly anticipating. It ultimately didn't result in such a great product, but the concept of it was fantastic, and that was DC versus Marvel. At the time that these comics came out, and especially I remember this specific, this was either like a poster that came alongside it or an actual panel from it.

I don't believe it was a panel. I believe this was like secondary art. But as a kid, the idea of the incredible Hulk and Superman squaring off and like Lobo and Wolverine seemed to me like an impossibility. And they brought it to reality. And I think the comics kind of disappointed people. I think this specific run was like a three comic book run I think and I don't think people really loved it but I remember just like fawning over the art

like seeing that art and seeing some of my favorite characters from Marvel and my favorite characters from DC potentially squaring off and all these like how often do we hear like who would beat this guy would Hulk be able to handle Superman who's faster the fashion Superman we actually got to see in action some of the crossover between the two brands A high level D.C. Marvel movie would go crazy. It would go crazy.

It would be amazing. I wonder if they've ever thought to angle toward that. It definitely thought, but I feel like with the rights and everything and negotiations, it's tough. But the money that they would make. Number three. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Terrence.

Number three, this is where we got into the GC predicts what I'm going to say and makes me feel like an asshole for suggesting it. but this is the one and only Alan Iverson, the answer. And this crossover was one on Antonio Daniels. Can we please roll the footage on this?

No, shout out. We're going to have to watch this back from another angle. PSPNB. Cross? Now watch this. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's an NBA player. He tried to get up and then got dropped the second time. That is one of my favorite crossovers. There's been many in history. I think a lot of people would select Alan Iverson over Michael

Jordan as their favorite just because of the historical significance and the fact that Iverson was a rookie coming in and shakes Jordan. Jordan recovered a little too well on defense for me for that to be a whole time crossover. Broke his ankles left him there on the ground. Yeah, that was broke his ankles twice, destroyed him and then just finished it. Alan Iverson near and dear to my heart, one of my favorite basketball players. And that crossover was absolutely filthy. This one is sneaky. This one, this one, how big a fan of like the 90s sitcoms were you? Like, I'm talking family matters. No, no, no.

Okay. Family matters, no. Okay. Well, for the old heads out there, this one's going to hit, like, crack because this is when Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince appeared on Family Matters. Let's roll that footage now. So this is the end of a, oh, is this the end of the beginning? There we go.

This is Lil'Dee. This is the post credits. The show has just ended. This episode of Family Matters has just ended. Well, we're getting a post credits on a 90s sitcom. Yes. Look that font. That is the most 90 shit ever.

They said, you look like the dad on Fresh Prince. And then the actor, James Avery, who plays Uncle Phil on Fresh Prince, comes in and surprises. He walks on to the set. It's a genuine reaction. He walked onto the set of Family Matters and surprise them. and then a hug right there. This was like your TV dads coming together just like blew my fucking mind at the time.

Oh, he's in a t-shirt and sweats. Yeah, James Avery, an absolute legend, the Uncle Phil from the Fresh Prince. That one like really like, at the time I was like, this is it. It does not get better than this. The fact, also the idea of like, oh my God, these things exist at the same time.

He's on a set somewhere and he can just like walk into the Family Matters universe if you wanted in real life, that was a seminal moment for me. It kind of like blew my concept away of what was possible. Okay, so mine were like the actual like cartoon episodes where they did real crossovers. Yeah, yeah. Jimmy Neutron and fairly odd parents was like legendary because it was two different animation styles.

And so like you got to see Timmy Turner in like the 3D and you got to see Jimmy Neutron and like the flat animation style. Kim Possible did a couple. I think Lilo and Stitch and Proud family Scooby-Doo and Johnny Bravo Yeah, well, I remember that one Legendary, shout out to Johnny Bravo The Simpson has done a few

I want to say they've done a family guy one I want to say they've done a Futurama one as well Family Guy, Bob's Burgers, I think Oh, Family Guy and Bob's Burgers? I think so. I want to say, didn't Bob's Burgers do one with, like, Archer or something? Oh, yeah, I mean, that actually sounds pretty great. Yeah, I mean, there's been a ton, but I don't

Archer. There was, shout out They used to do these a lot more. Yeah. A contemporary one, I think,

somebody correct me on this and I may be off base. I think always Sunny just did one recently with Abbott Elementary. Yes. So like they don't do them a lot anymore but they do still happen

and that's an example of one. I love those as well. But for me, Family Matters and Fresh Prince were so important and seminal like at the time for me that that is why that one hit so hard and seeing Uncle Phil

in that sense. Um, uh, Powder Puff Girls in Dexter's Laboratory, All-Timer. There are certain ones that I don't count. Is that, is that elitist of me? Because I'm like, they're kind of like the same creator. Like, there's certain ones that I'm just like, they appear on the same network in the, I don't know. Anyway, that one, that one was, was important to me. Um, what's the number one? Number one. Easiest call of all time. The crossover event. The one that was hyped up. And then delivered beyond measure, beyond expectations, will never be topped. And that's a little film called Freddy versus Jason. Ah, nice. The best.

The monsters of nightmare for everybody out there. Ding, ding, ding. Finally squaring off. The great part about this one was it's billed as Freddy versus Jason. But unlike like the Alien versus Predator movie, them squaring off wasn't like a super. central part of it until the end. More of it was like they're taking turns kind of haunting and they're enhancing each other's abilities to be able to haunt these teenagers at Camp Crystal Lake and elsewhere.

And so it was a great horror movie. Some would consider it kind of schlocky. I actually really liked it. I thought it was well made. I thought the way that they brought Freddie and Jason together was fantastic. And then when Freddie and Jason did actually fight, it was quite fun. Freddie's just a good character in general. He's a good crossover character in general

because he can kind of fit in any universe. But Freddie versus Jason was fantastic. And shout out Kelly Rollins from Destiny Child, who was an actor. Shout out Destiny Child. That was like a reverse crossover. Yes, she went away. And then Beyonce.

All right, those are two solid lists. I kind of look like, now I look like the asshole for doing it in a different style. I thought we were going to open up the imagination, open up the mind, really start thinking about what would we want to see in a crossover? Is it Ilya and Terrence or is it something else like that? So none of mine exists, none of mine have happened.

I'm putting on my imagination cap. I'm ready. I'm taking this journey with you. That's what I want you to do, you know? Get comfortable, get in the back of the Winnebago, and just let me take you on a ride of what I would want to see in terms of crossovers and mine are not just sport. All right.

Coming in number five, the BMW IX. Just kidding. All right, imagine you sit down on a Saturday morning you're watching your cartoons. Yes. You see Ash catch them. Okay. Walking along. He's got his Pikachu by his side.

Charzard flying up overhead. Everything seems right. We're going to visit Misty or Brock or whoever. And then suddenly, Charzart gets taken out by the neck. It's another dragon. What's going on? Ash is like, oh, what the fuck's going on? And then he looks down.

And then who's standing there with cards in his hand? It's time to duel. It's Yugi from Yu-Gi-W-Gi-Oh. He's just attacked his Charzard with a blue-eyes-white dragon. Pokemon X Yu-Gi-O, WB Saturday morning, Blockbuster. Wow. I mean, look at this. There's Ash in like a Yu-Gi-o-style drawing.

You got Pikachu and everything there. Pikachu kind of looks just like Pikachu from regular Pokemon. Yeah, shout out. Look at that. What do we got? Ho-ho versus like a blisk or whatever that Red Dragon's name is. You got Dark Magician. I mean, shout out.

What's Ho-ho? That's the legendary bird up there. Okay. Ho-ho and Lugia. Lugia. That was from like the silver and gold. Pokemon. Shout out.

Look at that. You got Ash with the... These were two of my favorites growing up. This would have blown my mind. This would have blown my mind if this had ever happened. Why didn't they? They had the chance, I feel like. I don't know.

I don't know. Shout out. That is one that I'm dying to see. Next up, now we're going to start getting good. Two Georgia powerhouses. Two places that you cannot escape. You cannot avoid if you live in the state of Georgia. And now they come together for a holy matron

that is Waffle House and Chick-fil-A. But it's not just like, oh, chicken and waffles. You get two meal ideas. One, 10-piece nugget where the waffle fries, the famous waffle fries of Chick-fil-A, are actually made of waffles. It's Waffle House waffle fries. And then the second one is the famous Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich, but instead of the buns being made of normal buns, they're made of Waffle House Waffles, and that is the collapse. That's pretty great. photos. I mean, that's a great photo. Waffles, fries made of actual waffles, Chick-fil-A, X Waffle House. I love that. Potato camera. That would be a dream of mine. Number three, this has been a fantasy of, like, me and all my, my, like, boys growing up, like, playing video games and everything

like this. Like, we used to always dream of this. Like, you're playing, like, a Madden or, like, an NBA 2K, and, like, you're doing your My Career mode, and, like, you get, like, the outside, like, of the actual game playing. You have to make like a couple of decisions like how you answer a press conference. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Little shit like that in your my career mode. Yep. So what I'm envisioning is any sports game. UFC 5. I mean, shout out to like an NFL blitz or like an NHL hits or anemble be Slugfest, some crazy game like that NFL street or just like a FIFA, Madden, a college football, NBA 2K, anything like that, X, Grand Theft Auto. So you live your life on the outside and you can steal cars

and you can do all this crazy shit and then you go and play in the game and it's built like NFL Street or FIFA or Madden or UFC 5 like imagine UFC 5 and like you're building up your career and like you're trying to become a bigger superstar but then like you know you can go steal cars or you can go to the strip club

or you can do like all this crazy shit and you have missions outside of the gameplay as well what if GTA 6 You can choose a career and they just allow you to basically do this. You choose a career as a sports star and you do this. This is one that I've always thought would be so sick. You can you imagine if it's still like football coach and those kind of sports games too

where you're like just a coach, but here I also sell crap. Here I am, dodgy, exactly, selling crack, stealing a car. Exactly. And then you've got to go answer press conferences and like if you're out getting too messed up the night before your performance isn't as good when you go to play. it would take we've seen how long gtas six is taking it would take a millennia for this to get created but it would just be unbelievable NFL blitz kind of tried to do something with it in like the early 2010s but it just didn't catch on it was very like raunchy and crazy but a shout out that would be

unbelievable my number two um the twilight movie franchise yes my opinion come for my neck if you want dog shit Edward nobody's coming for you Edward Cullen, Bella, as corny as it gets. How can we make this better? What if it isn't a romance tale? What if it's a tale of a hunting? And we bring in Blade to come after the vampires, baby. Blade X Twilight, yeah.

Oh, we're in love? Now, here comes Blade. Y'all are dead. Here he comes. Day Walker himself out in the middle of the day. I love it. I love it. Hit the vampire dance club theme.

Blade pulls up and just goes, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's go, baby. Edward, he's behind you. Okay. Blade kills them all, yes? Like, do we agree?

That's how it ends. Yeah, like, that's how it ends. These guys don't stand the chance. Is it a five-minute movie? I mean, or does he wipe out all? They're getting to put up a fight. They're fucking superpower. Putting up the fight.

Their glittery faces are superpowers. In that movie, that dude can like fucking fly and like lift cars. Like, he's not a, they're also a, I want to see him. Three hundred years old. You want to know the only, so I used to go to a gym and they had a, like, cardio cinema, right? And so, like, it was like, treadmills, ellipticals, all that in a literal movie theater. Shout to the edge.

It was just like a giant screen. And they would just play movies throughout the day and you could just go in and just do cardio and watch movies. So I went in one day for a long run, like an hour run, and it's twilight on. And like I watched it the entire time. And like, as it went on, I was like, this is dog shit. I was like, this is so corny and bad. So that's, I've only seen one hour of one movie, but I figured if you throw blade in there.

And you need Blade to just come in and clean up. Throw blade in there. Just shoo, clean them on up. As a blade guy, I love it. Let's get snipes in there and get it done. My last one, my number one, is actually an MMA fighter going in to another sport. Could be fighting for the lightweight title next. A lightweight contender, one of the biggest superstars in the sport.

And that is one, Patty the Batty Pimbley. What sport is he going to? We've seen him in between fights. The man blows up. The man eats a lot of food. What is this? What is this? him doing wing contests.

Ilya Tepore going over to boxing to fight Terrence Crawford. White House card, maybe Connor McGregor. July 4th, UFC will have representation in one of America's biggest events. The Nathan's hot dog eating contest. Patty Pimblet enters the Nathan's hot dog eating contest and becomes a two-sport athlete. We're not going for the lightweight belt. We're going for the mustard belt, baby. Look at these assets that we've pulled in.

I mean, this guy is built for it. He's made for it. I've seen videos where he's just like, look at it. I mean, the jaw dexterity is just unbelievable. I've seen videos where, like, he's just housing food. That is fucking crazy. This guy fights at 155, and he looks shredded when he does. Look at this, man.

I've seen videos where, like, he's housing food, and, like, he's like, you want a bite of the cookie? And look at this. He broke a record at a local restaurant. He ate 43 or, like, 47 chicken wings in, like, 10 minutes. Oh, my God. So he is, like, a competitive eater. Dog, I've seen videos where, like, he's housing food. yeah, there it is. Imagine that. Patty the Baddy Pimblet with the mustard belt.

Legit. How many do you think he, like not training, right? He does not become a competitive eater, but if he just like got plopped into it right now, how many do you think he could put down? Dude, I've seen videos where he's putting down food and he's with like other like big fighters and like he's like, oh, you want to the bite of the Dubai chocolate cookie? And they're like, nah, bro, I'm full. I'm done. He's like, I don't get full. There's no such thing as eating too much. He like, him and Tom Aspinall just did like a collab vlog. Shout out to a pretty good crossover there. And like Tom's eating like a salad and Patty gets like a milkshake dropped in front of him.

And he's just like, wow, man, like you're really just like crushing this just out of camp. He's just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. After my last fight, I had five milkshakes that night, woke up feeling like a fat pig. And I'm just like- Diego Lopez is over here throwing up from Gatorade and Patty's housing five milkshakes. Dude, he puts it back, man. It's actually impressive how much he eats. It's, like, it's ridiculous.

You mentioned the hot dog thing. I don't know if we have the video. I sent it to you, Jordan. I don't know if we got it dropped in, but it's, oh, yeah. Let's, let's run this. He's on an interview for Barstall with Molly McCann, and Molly McCann is talking. He's gone for pizza, the ones that's not Neapolitan. They just, like, coated and squires, and I'm wearing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Breathing. But you're not breathing so heavy. He's like, Pat, he's had deep dish. He's had hot dogs. Now you know what it's like. That's why he's breathing so heavy. I'm a fat bastard.

I'm going to Italy and I've gone for pizza I had to slow down the briega He just like Cutter and squeeze You slowed it down He like He like owns up to being a fat bastard

And he just like He houses food I would actually like to see him Give it a go He seems to me like a natural eater Right Like there's like Joey Chestnut Those Kobayashi

Those guys like that That's their profession They train it There's techniques You know It's not just like Eat a ton of food But in terms of just like

People off the street that you could just be like, yo, this guy can eat. That is, he is in a category. He just, he eats, man. Like, if you see some videos after he finish his weigh-ins, he just starts putting it back, dude. And like, the way he talks about, like, he's like, oh, when I'm over in the States, like, I usually don't get above, when I'm in Europe, I usually don't get above 190 or something, 190 pounds. But when I'm in the States, I just blow up because, like, the serving sizes are so big, and I can house anything. And then, like, I'm drinking a Coke. And, like, you get down to, like, 25% left. And they just plop on.

another Coke in front of you and he's like oh great like he has like a glimmer in his eye speaking of it like I'm I am legit I'm not making fun of him for like being like fat or anything like I am saying like yeah this is about the eating this is just a real he's a real eater bro he just loves food like this dude just loves food and he can absolutely put it back like you always have those friends where it's just like damn man like you eat a fuck well we see how like talking about armin we're talking about armin earlier we see these videos of him just eating a lot of food and people going nuts a patty like food centric thing would do numbers. Oh, he does it. He posted. Like, he's gone like a, like, uh, like London food tours and

everything like that. Is that when he did the wings? Like the 47 wings is part of like, just like, yeah, yeah, he's, he's an animal. I would, I would love to see him go after the mustard belt. A great list. I have a confession as, as well. I knew that you did a look ahead and I submitted a second list. Oh, what is this? I submitted a crossover list. Oh, wow. Crossovers that I I want to see. Frank would never. Frank would never. My list is submitted. My list is submitted. I can't spend another 10 minutes to make another one. No, Frank doesn't have the effort, the gumption. Number five. A crossover, crossover list. I love it. Number five. Let's set the scene here. It's a pleasantville-esque, picture-esque high school setting. Okay. Out comes Troy Bolton, singing along, doing his thing. High school musical kicks off. Oh, they're so cute. They're so great.

Look at them. They're on the basketball team. They're doing their little songs. Inject into this setting. Ghostface. High school musical X scream. Oh, I love it. Ghostface is systematically hunting down these teenagers.

Zach Efron is getting sliced up in high school. But it's still a musical. It's a musical. but it's also made now. So it's like 32-year-old Zach Efron. He's back in high school. 35-year-old Vanessa Hudgens

who like never drinks any water. Shout out. I'm in. High school musical X-Sream. But the key is it has to maintain the musical element. Because if it doesn't, then it just becomes scream, right?

It's just a movie race. Yes, yes. They are getting sliced up. Number four, this one might not be known to American audiences fully, but my UK fans out there are going to love.

of this one. There's a detective series led by Idris Elba called Luther. He is a detective that John Luther is his character on the show. He is a detective that gets results, but how he kind of gets those results is a little bit not by the book, let's just say. He's a little, he colors a little bit outside the lines. He's a little bit of a vigilante. Who could I pair John Luther with. What crimes could he solve that would make for a fascinating foil? What crossover could we do? And only one name came to mind. And that's Dexter Morgan. Oh, shout out. John Luther hunting serial killer Dexter Morgan. But when he catches him, what's he going to do? Is he going to turn him in? Is he going to play a good cop? Or is he going to teach Dexter some justice on behalf of Luther?

Tune into CBS. This Thursday at 9 p.m. This one might have to go on like an HBO. This one might have to go a little, little off. Anything Andrew Selba, man. He's fucking fantastic. It's a great detective series. Shout out to Luther. Watch that if you can. Number three, this one to me was, this is not an obvious one, but it felt right once I put them together. I did a lot of permutations here. I was in the lab on this. One of my favorite people, one of my favorite, I talked about him in our duos. One of my favorite characters, one of my favorite things to think about is Batman. I love Batman. Batman is an iconic staple of my childhood. we can go patinson i went patinson but we could we could kind of apply this to anybody batman world's greatest detective what would happen though if all of a sudden the rogues gallery is getting hunted one by one by one does batman have to save them does he allow it to happen does he is he conflicted does he have to prevent this from happening what happens when john wick enters the the the dark night universe and is contracted to kill all of Batman's villains.

So like the Joker, the Ridler. The Joker is hunted by John Wick. Playface, hunted by John Wick. Catwoman, hunted by John Wick. Contract for every single one of them. Will he stop John Wick? Is he obligated to? Does he try to facilitate this? Does he turn bad? Who wins in a fight Batman versus John Wick? Well, they're going to have to fight. They're both kind of this one and the same. John Wick obviously, you know, the gun special and everything. But like, Batman is just a rich guy with tools. Hand-to-hand combat.

He's just a guy. I'm in. But this is going to be the tension of the movie is the bad guys are involved. And maybe they turn on both of them. Maybe they try to help Batman. Maybe they try to help John Wick. Who knows how this all plays out. But there are a lot of elements in play here when John Wick is contracted to kill all the villains.

And the intercontinental Gotham. Is Gotham. Okay. Number two. By the way, these are all kind of like movie TV. Like, this is just where my head went. A franchise that's very important to me, one that I love dearly, the Fast and the Furious franchise. I am a huge fan of this franchise.

And there could be many options here. It has been rumored that there has been Transformers thrown out there. Could there be a Fast and the Furious Transformers crossover? It was also rumored, crazily enough, could there have been a Fast and the Furious Jurassic Park crossover? That was something that was legitimately out there. Transformers would have been enough. But ultimately where I landed, I thought Transformers could have been good,

but I actually thought it would have been a little too goofy because the Transformers universe doesn't quite jive. Like Fast and Furious isn't fucking goofy. No, but it's the way Fast and Furious is goofy is it serious and Vin Diesel is goofy. That's what makes it fantastic. And so I ultimately landed at Fasten of Furious meets Den of Thieves. Den of Thieves.

Gerard Butler and crew who are undercover cops well 50 maybe comes back in another movie but shout out to Ice Cube's son have to hunt down Dom and his crew but the only way to do it

is to go deep undercover and we know that the fast franchise worked best when Brian was undercover at the very beginning run that same formula back Dan of Thieves meets Fast and the Furious cops undercover with Dom and the gang leading to the epic showdown

I can't wait to hear number one number one it's funny where you went with yours because I also had that thought I also had the thought of what if my favorite movie character Blade met the cast of Twilight

but instead of Twilight I thought my man Blade needs a challenge it can't just be like High school kids it can't just be a little bum yeah Blade needs to

high school musical. They're all vampires. No, this one, this one's a little bit of a deeper cup, but those that know, no, there's a movie called 30 Days of Night, starring Josh Hartnett, where the concept of this film is there's a town in Alaska where at a certain time of year, the sun does not come up for 60 days because of the way the Earth's rotation works. And this is actually a real thing. but I believe it's like 90 days in real life,

somewhere in the world. In this film, the people that live in this town are hunted by the vampires because the vampires use this as like their playground, right? Every year they know that this is coming and they descend upon the town for 60 full days of feasting.

Nothing makes me happier than the movie twist where you are hunting without realizing you become the hunted. So they are hunting in this town in Alaska but it turns out, Blade is there and they are the ones that are now fucked

and Blade in any vampire movie Yeah he's the best Put him in nose for us He's the best Let him pull up with the house He's the best Vampire Hunter to you Um

But yeah I really enjoyed thinking about like How I could get Blade To kill different people And ghost face and things like that 30 Days of Night So was a movie first Was it a comic?

It might have been a comic first The only reason Because of speaking of crossovers Like I own the six issues At 30 days of night When they did a crossover with X-Files, and this is a little bit timely fitting. It's possible the comics came first.

What's interesting, though, is that they had a guest artist, Adam Jones, guitars from Tool, did all of the illustrations for this 30 Days of Night, X-Files thing. I've never read them like I just have them because I'm the big tool chill. But if you ever want to check them out, let me know. Thank you. But yes, that's it. I would love to see Blade Chop Up some vampires. I'd love to see Ghostface kill some high schoolers.

Hell yeah. Detecta. I mean, John Luther. on the case for Dexter would be lost. I mean, I'm telling you, I had a blast. Like, it took me a while to come up with my list. I had a blast thing about it. I feel like the best movie of this bunch, though, John Wick versus Batman would really. Oh, it would go hard. It would go hard. Yeah, that was the list. Pound for pound. Um, crossovers we want to see, but also crossovers that have already happened. A bit of a crossover, crossover list, uh, if you will.

We'll be back with, uh, in just a minute with some, uh, shout out's big hitters, Strava group. And your voicemails and super chats don't go anywhere. Man, shout out of that music there. It sounded like, it sounded kind of ominous. Yeah. I feel like sometimes the music. If you're a Florida fan, it is ominous. Hey, shout out to UF, man.

Go Gators. All right, let's run through some big hitters real quick from a big weekend in combat sports, both Noche UFC and Canelo Crawford. Some of these tickets are just crazy. We start back-to-back weeks for Gio-Generro. He hits a six-leg, plus $22,777474.5 to win 1138. Monserat Rendon, Jesus Aguilar, Diego Lopez, Santiago Luna,

David Martinez, and Hoffa Garcia. Five of the six plus money and a minus 125 in Santiago Luna. Absolutely nailed it. Turn a quick Abraham Lincoln, $5 bill into over $1,100. Next up, Dana White's locks I don't know if this was a lock but he nailed it man $6 into $1,200 Tommy Gant to win by submission Ewo Barnawski

to win by K.O. And Hatcher Soza to win by decision those being on Dana-Wy contender series unbelievable plus 19,900. We keep rolling along. This is a shout-out to Justin Aguilar's brother

Luis, he sent this to me, nailed it. Diego Lopez, KO, round two, plus $2, $2,800, $10 into $290. I cannot even imagine how crazy he went when Diego Lopez threw that elbow. Like, it did not look great in that round two until he threw that elbow. Unbelievable stuff. That's a nice one. Must have gone absolutely bananas. Next up, iTunes 88, 6 picks, plus 14,9004.

Very similar to the last. Last one, if not the exact same, Montserrat Rendon, Jesus Aguilar, Santiago Luna, Hoffa Garcia, David Martinez, Diego Lopez, all with Mexican representation, $20 into $3,000. Crown surely is yours, iTunes, congrats on an unbelievable hit. Next up, juvie dooby-doo, five legs, $1,497, Terence Crawford, Dog, Diego Lopez, dog, Hoffa Garcia, dog. Alexander Hernandez, minus 110, Tatiana Suarez, Jesus Aguilard, dog, Zachary Reese, which avoided, and Montserrat Rendon, dog.

Shout out the juvie-dou, unbelievable hit. And then we finish it off with Logan Matt, Logan Matt 9, two parles, Deucco to win by sub, Hernandez to win by K.O., Kelvin Gasolum to win by decision, $10 into 422,

and then he does Rendon, Aguilar, Luna, Garcia, David Martinez. popular. A lot of people did the Mexico part of it. I guess I just got to start doing that for these cards where they're in certain places and they stack them with the nationality of the location they're at. The French one hit, the Mexican one hit, and then when I take it, it's going to go like two for ten. Ten dollars

into five hundred and 49. Also while we keep the, you know, we don't have any bets this week. We'll keep the shout-out train rolling. Strava Group, just going strong. So that's my guy Jake Sharp who's hitting the pavement with his son,

getting out there. One a half mile. It's better than nothing. And then he did a run himself, went 0.9 miles. First time back in years, he said. Shout out to Jake Sharp.

Look at that. First time back in years, baby. Shout out to him. A couple others to go through. Just love seeing, Hey, team, reporting from New Zealand.

Got a quick 10K in. Shout out to the Graemeath Road Tramp. Shout out to New Zealand. Shout to the Kiwis. We roll along. My guy, throwing up the Obon Elliott. Love it. Al. Also in

New Zealand. Early morning in New Zealand. Got to watch Chelsea You pick the wrong one. Got to watch. Give me a fucking out, Frankie. Fucking out. There it is. Shout out to the Welsh gangster. A couple more. Let's just burn through them real quick. This guy, have to shout out. Chris Reyes. Running in Boston, Massachusetts.

First running months. Knees are cooked. Shout to GC for inspiring me to join and hit the pavement. Plus, he found out this morning. He's having a girl as his first child. And shout out for Chris Reyes, man. Appreciate you listening. Appreciate you running, brother. You look fantastic out there.

A couple more. Luke Hercules just getting in a blazing fast half marathon, two hours. In Sydney, Sydney, Australia. Shout out to him. And then lastly, our guy, David Binkmurton. 10K with his 10-year-old cockapoo. We even got the dogs running. 10K in less than an hour.

Shout out to him, man. Shout to everyone on Strava. Shout to everyone with the big hitter. Shout out to everyone listening. We appreciate you. Shout up. More than you know. Frankie, we got any voicemails, brother.

Voice ma'am! Oh, hoi, hoi? Hey, boys. What's up? Jesse from St. Louis calling in. Love the show. Love to watch parties. But I got to ask,

are we going to see any pack-written? on boys in the back or maybe the watch parties I was thinking about this when I was watching Ariel Rip the PFL packs and it was pretty fun I'd love to see you guys

get back to ripping your packs let me know by the way GC I'm coming for you on Strava sub 25K see you there come on son

let's go the Strava is taking off Strava's taking it gets me out on the pavement it gets other people out on the pavement. It's a blast. We're still waiting for the New York Rick Post. Not a runner. Massive pop if it

happens. Huge kudos. Frankie, Jordan, Andy, Ariel. If I hop on there and just do one run, all right. It'll be a huge pop. We could do a run. We've got to take a selfie, posted in the Uncrowned group. Massive pop. You'll get a ton of kudos. It'll be sick. I have to say,

I've officially pushed for the packs. I've started being like, let's do the packs. Let's bring them back. We want to. We want to. Bring back the packs. 320? If you are an intrepid, you know, card company out there and you would like representation and we can rip up with some packs, let's do business. They're not cheap as what we're saying. Not cheap as what we're saying.

But maybe we just have to do a couple examples. And then we can bring it out. You come to us. Panini. The hottest cards on the market tops. All right. Your exclusive home. But yes, packs are coming back.

Hey, Connor. What are your thoughts on MMA media members? into amateur fighting and would you ever do it thank you well no one not a name not anything no one just just just directly counter answer the question are you going to fight um i love it i mean i think it's i think it's great like if as long as you're doing it safely and and like you're not you're not pouring everything into it and you're not taking it too seriously i think it's fun would i fight probably probably not mama i don't need to go get choked out on uh on a not national television but a streaming service online or anything like that maybe boxing though maybe like a nice four-rounder

in boxing i i could be open to anything that i would do it would be for fun and just to experience it it would not be a serious like i'm going to knock this dude's head into the fourth round i'm taking this so seriously i'm going to become a pro boxer i have 32 the fight games pass me by unfortunately um but i mean it's something i would i would be open to Ben from Tucson again, a regular, as you guys said, hopefully. I was just sitting here watching the show, and you guys said no one's calling about the mailman fight league or door dashers as my big Samoan. Trust me, I told him about a GC.

He wants to smoke. Anybody from Atlanta, come get it. The reason why I feel like people aren't calling about it is just like Floyd Mayweather and Mike Tyson. No date. no venue no streaming service there's a little bit of a point

we need answers so hit me up we got you anyone Atlanta can come get it shout out GC shout out Gc shout to my guy man

and Frank and Rick and Jordan there it is there it is way to film you on and the other Ben back there I know you're there

Pete boys Ben Ben he's not in the back but good on you you got that locked in He's in our hearts. Yeah, he's always in our heart.

Maybe he's trying out Ben Heffner. That's what I'm saying. He's saying in the back, though. Ben's not here. Ben's elsewhere. Ben's in another part of the country, but he is a legend. What's up, boys, and biz act? Is she a boy, Trill, from Las Vegas.

Hey, I got a question. Oh, shout out to all you guys, by the way. Shout out to all you guys, by the way. Especially Andy. She holds it down. She's like the mama bear. I love her. I got a question.

question though so after you do your weighing what is the most amount of weight you're allowed to gain after weighing so say you weigh in at 155 can you walk in there like 180 if possible if you could put it on is there a weight limit how does this work get me up i've been listening you guys for three years my god for this era and uh you guys help me through my day every day on my weekly route i'm an amazon driver speaking of which hey they is not these mailmen are not ready we're back so bad they don't do what i do they can't they can't do 200 stops with uh 400 packages in 114 degree weather day is not ready for that that Vegas is a fire capro baby laws uh tell them running i haven't seen a moment on sunday shout out love you guys man

is a good point for you brother uh great call. Man Fight League is alive as it's ever been. I don't think there is a limit on weight. So it depends, right? California, for example, they want you to only be 15% or less. They will not stop your fight if you're more, but if you're like 20% or more, they next time might call into question your license, make you reapply, things like that. And then obviously we know for certain fights, like in boxing, they will say, rehydration clause. They'll say you cannot go above this way, or you'll be fined, or we might even cancel the fight. So there's not a blanket thing about how much somebody could gain, but there are jurisdictions

or agreements where people set those numbers. So that's kind of how it is. But, like, if nobody says anything, it's fair game. You could gain as much as you want. What's so, boys in the back? What's up, Joe, from South Dakota. Last time I was on, I ate a big bowl of fruit. late at night to celebrate you guys

being back. Update on that. I summoned to break the next day. Aerial's fucking crazy. I said he had horrible guys. But I just finished here Wednesday episode from September to 10th. When I'm making this call, I was listening to work.

I love listening to guys' words. Thanks so much for the show. And something with Jordan's fucking delay on his microphone was like the most unbearable fucking shit. I've ever heard in my life. Sorry for Cushing too much. He just had this weird delay

of like five minutes. It's like Ariel would be talking to him. He wouldn't fucking say shit. And Ariel would just be like chilling. And then five minutes later, Ariel's like giving this breakdown over crazy recent events, you know. And then fucking Jordan will just interrupt

talking about his fucking favorite football. It was fucking awful. But I'm sure you guys already heard about it. We've heard about it. I just love we didn't just stop the podcast. But, yeah, shout out of the boys in bed. Give me like a pound-for-pound through your favorite video games.

Joe did you do that? I don't fucking know. Thanks to the show. Amazing call. That's what of my favorite calls. Frank, Jordan, anything to say for yourself? He's a bit of an anachronism. Like, sometimes he's just off, you know.

Yeah. No, there was a technical issue with the audio playback of the podcast. Audio issue. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. It has been fixed. Frankie was torn up about it and fixed it immediately. Yeah, torn up for sure. Hey, what's up, boys?

Leviticus Appleton, Savannah, Georgia. Really didn't want to make this call, man. Really didn't want to. And I'll tell you what. I am at 2 hours, 52 minutes, and 51 seconds. into your episode, and this is the moment where I realized I just had to call. This is what Rick shined in to say at the end of the show. Let's listen.

Important note. The voicemail numbers are, oh, now a little bit. The voicemail numbers are going down, he says. I mean, I think we need to start advertising more. Oh, we've got to start advertising more. That's interesting because, oh, that's interesting because I left a great voice. smell that you didn't play uh i actually filled the whole three minutes time uh constraint perfectly i feel like that doesn't make it a great it was a very very good question i guess the

topic might have been a little bit too risque for you guys but you know i thought maybe maybe i thought you guys were just a little more brave but i just want to say one thing You don't have enough at the bull stuff. And you know it. And you guys did it to me again. You screwed me. I gave you gold. And once again, I had to listen.

Voice, after voice, no, after voice, well, not mine. Not mine, not mine. Not mine. I thought I don't think everyone has to deserve. But you're scared. You're scared you're upsetting my cat. Okay.

Bye. Shout out to you, Leviticus. All the time are from Leviticus Appleton, who I believe is an actor. He's fantastic. The crying on command has become on point. Leviticus Appleton has a IMDB page where he has been in four different movies uh shorts videos bride hard

wait really yeah bride hard with rebel wilson and for real yeah he was Leviticus Appleton was in this as deckhand number one fucking hell Leviticus Appleton shout out to you and we obviously played your voicemail so you don't have to cry next week I just listen this is my first time paulin

and hearing that like the voicemail pickup thing and you guys I just know you guys were all just sitting there cheesy. But I am at work taking a cigarette brick right now. Hell, yeah. And I'm just calling to leave you guys the message. I heard on the last show. You guys aren't getting as many calls in.

People stepped up. I'm a bad-ed-ed-strivers, so I've got to contribute, keep the fight league going, you know. But I just want to say thank you for you guys. You know, I listen to you guys a lot. I'm so happy that I get to listen to you more throughout the week, you know. And then I do love the dynamic between Frank and GC. It's like when your, when your face. favorite TV show in and it's like a new spinoff and you're like I didn't know I needed this but like

the original show still born love Ariel love everybody appreciate everything you guys do and um yeah I'll become a regular call I gotta get like a topic I just like parked in thought like I just call but um just appreciate you guys man appreciate everything you do appreciate you brother thank you for the call man I love a freestyle call where you just love it I didn't know what I was gonna just let it spin I'm just letting it go boys in the back from Cape Codigan. It's been a while. Let me see. I got a couple questions. Well, I was in the Navy

for eight years, man. I'm curious. Thank you for your service. You guys had to join one branch. Army, Air Force, Marines, Navy, Coast Guard. Which branch would you join? I'll take an answer from all you guys. Jordan, fucking everybody.

And the only other question I got is dream fights with active fighters in the U.S.C. right now. There's one that just sticks out of my head. For me personally, it would be Ilya versus John Silva. John Silva. That might would just be fucking sick of the striking years.

We'll be pretty insane. That's my dream fight. I hope it happens at some point, but they're both currently young. I think it's possible, but we'll see. Thanks guys. Love you. Pete. Branch of the military, Marines.

Brothers in the Marines, so I'd just piggyback on that. Yeah, my dad was in the Air Force, so maybe I'll go that. Frank? Shout out to the world. Air Force guy. There you go. That were we got a Coast Guard or something. Reserves.

I mean, Dream Fight was really a Saturday. No to UFC early in the morning year in Los Angeles. Actually, not early in the morning, early in the afternoon. Woke up late.

But I just finished listening to you guys and Rick, you're saying that the numbers are down, so here I am doing my duty. Call to action, man. I don't call. I love you both. I love Ariel. I've been listening since the beginning. I'm 52 years old.

Wow, shut up. I love you deeply, profoundly. Every single day I listen to you guys. I listen to every minute of every show. Fucking hell. Ever since the pandemic, it's been every single minute of every single show. No, I haven't missed the day. I haven't missed the minute. And before that, I used to watch Ariel and the MMA beat. and basically practically didn't miss any of those shows either.

Feats coming back next week? I just want to tell you guys, I love you very much. Thanks for being part of my life. And, yeah, keep up the good work. We love you, man. We appreciate the call. I actually am sorry at the amount of content we put out if you don't miss a single minute because there is a lot of it.

Thank you for letting us be a part of your life. You guys are D1. Sorry about that. Boys in the back, it's Saturday. No to UFC early in the morning you're in Los Angeles. Actually, not early

in the morning, early in the afternoon. Is this the same one? I couldn't even tell to be... Man, bro, you really hit him with a D1 Glazer and then fucked up there. Jackson from Los Angeles. What's up Jackson? I just wanted to call and thank you for keeping me up to date all things.

M.MA. I'm currently currently five months into my walk across this country on the PCT and yeah without you guys I just wouldn't be able to death date on the all things that I may that's crazy two quick things uh GC man your fight feast bro are killing me on trail this uh this last one when you were talking about the uh the nine or the 11 out of 10 pastafio raspberry croissants so good i might go get one this weekend i uh had to eat like my thousandth cliff bars to pretend like i was eating one of those things and uh rick man i did not think it was possible to have a worse take than your lord of the rings take but my god you've done it

the uh the drums versus flats the i just i look i hear you you're entitled to your own opinion. Is he? I just, I think that they think you might not be eating the flats right, my guy. Yeah. You just got to take the flat, you take the small end, push all the skin and meat towards the bigger end, and you just eat it in one bite.

Big lollipop. Pick and wing lollipop. It's incredible, clean bone. All right, boy, have a good one. Peace. My guy, shout out. Who doesn't know how to eat a flat? It's not about that.

I don't know. Flats are fire. Also, flats are so much easier to dip, you can cover the entire thing. thing in it. I'm cool with whatever. I'm not going to ask for all either way. Shout to the PCT, the Pacific Crest

Trail, is what he is currently on. How long is that? He said across the country, so like he's talking across the west coast from Mexico to Canada. You literally start at the Mexican border. Go all the way up through L.A.,

all the way up through Northern California, all the way up through Oregon, through Portland, through Seattle all the way to the Canadian. How many miles is it? Let's see. How many miles? Shout to you for keeping up, for listening, man. We can't tell you how much we appreciate that. 2,653 miles. So this is kind of like the West Coast Appalachian Trail. Wow, that is nuts. Keep on keeping on, brother. Shout out to you, man. Appreciate you still listening. Yeah, you got to stop doing fight feasts because he's munching on those cliff bars thinking about better times.

It would make sense he likes Lord of the Rings because that's that sounds like Lord of the Rings. He's walking, doing nothing. Currently reading The Hobbit, really enjoying it. It's great. Shout out to you. But congratulations. That's a monumental task.

See, Rick be the kind of guy. He just loves a good finger food, right? So he'll order like onion rings when you're at an expensive steakhouse. And he probably prefers the drumsticks because his fingers stay less, you know, dirty. I appreciate it. Remember when we got those? Did Jordan suggest this one? That was another.

I have not said a word. It was a whole show. Not a word of all show. Lord of the Rings sucks. Gun your rings, great. Order them where you want. But maybe you shouldn't eat them with a fork and a knife. You know, use your hands.

Be a man. Objectively, Lord of the Rings does not suck. Like, it is simply just like I didn't enjoy Lord of the Rings because I am an uncultured swine is the correct way of saying it. Did you say you've never seen the godfather the other day? I have seen both godfathers. They're quality movies. I haven't seen them because I'm,

Waiting for Rini, do? I did say Godfather Three sucks. What up, boys in the back? What's up, bro? This is Thomas from Queens. Tommy, Queens. Thanks for a shout-out. Connor, I'm doing well.

How about yourself? All right. You tried. You tried. You tried. You're almost good. Frank, G.C. and New York, Rick. The scenario is that you went out for a couple of drinks at a bar.

A verbal dispute has broken out between your pals. and some hecklers at the bar. Plots list. The three pals you are with that night are active UFC fighters that you now have to fight your way out of the bar with as the verbal dispute has now turned physical. Oh, hell, yeah. Who are these three fighters that you choose? Who are these three fighters of your choice to help you during this conflict?

Choose wisely. All right. Love you, boys. boys in the back the best of the best see you my guy thank you for the call

shout out to Thomas uh shout out to queens uh didn't ask how you doing um three fighters to get out of a bar bra with all right easy

first up tom aspinall no doubt yeah that's probably he's our boy and he's gigantic and he's the fucking man um

I almost feel like you it diffuses the moment they see Tom Aspinall I'd be like oh I don't want to fuck with the big dude with the neck tattoo well let's go ahead and defuse the moment a little bit more

by looks. We're going to have Alex Pereiro with this as well. That's definitely happening. I like this so far. Now, who is the third one? Because, like, you know, you automatically think like a... Paltura? Yeah, I was going to say, like, an Iliate to Poria or like a, or like an Islam Machashev or something like that.

Islam would be great. The thing is... Raza, you don't want to... Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, here's the thing. Ah, fuck though. I was going to say... Do we need a woman? Well, I was going to say, we're sinking pints with Tom, but Alex does not drink anymore. So, Alex, is DDing for us. And I was going to say

Islam could DD, but we've already got the DD in Alex. Uh, you know who might be... John Strickland. Uh, they actually won up. You had fun to drink with. And also an absolute menace, DDP. Mm, DDP. If we're rolling around us, Tom, Pereira, and

DDP, I know. We're getting we're getting out of there. We're getting out of there, safe and sound. Uh, those are the three. That's the squad. I like it. DDP. I do feel like DJ in there somewhere as well. Active UFC fighters We're also talking size, man DJ is the greatest

But he's also the greatest Of the smallest latex Going non-UFC Darren Till is my number one draft pick That guy's getting you out of the bar Guaranteed Keep my fucking name Out of your mouth

No in this case he wants Is a respect A compliment A compliment Hey boys Plus dandy Minus GC Harry Coney again

From Long Island And question is for New York, Rick. Help me out here. I had this vague memory of drive my car down the LIE, Long Island Expressway, flipping through the serious XM channels. And I seem to recall listening to live on radio commentary for, it might have been UFC, could have been another MMA promotion. I don't think it was Rogan.

I don't think it was Anik. It's just some random sports channel on I think XM radio So yeah Is this still a thing? Was it ever a thing? I'm making this up Anyways,

Hope you all have a great weekend Except for GC. Thanks, bye Man, fuck you, your Long Island aide has gotten you some haters Good. Yes,

Sirius Fight Nation used to do Live play-by-play on Sirius. On Sirius X-M. I was listening to some talk sport this morning. they had Joseph Parker on Shut up Radio Old school radio is hard to listen to now man

There are Because what? Like what's the difference between that And let's say like a podcast Like why? Oh okay So many They took one commercial break

I was in the shower And I had it on a speaker Playing and the entire shower Was just commercials Because like on linear radio I guess that's what you would call it Traditional radio The commercial breaks are like

Seven, eight minutes long bro It was just like come on man Yeah Let's get back to it here. Do love Talksport, though. Just love watching the Brits banter. Shut up. But wait a minute.

You said that you notoriously take like a 90-second shower. It depends on the day. All right. I'm making sure. I'm like, yeah. I am capable of if I am moving, like a 60-second shower being involved. No joke. Ever since you told me that, I've been trying to hit those numbers.

Keep it moving, man. But so if I... But if I have nothing to do, bro, dim the lights down. Hop in the shower, blast the heat, and just stand there. Yeah, I'm always... Just thinking about nothing, completely zoning out. I'm luxuriating. I mean, I enjoy a shower.

What a boy. What's over? From Nebraska. Oh, legend. Let's go. Back with another lock. Yeah, Andy Janovich. Shout out Southern Miss.

First off. Friday. Big win. The high school team. I coach. Defensive backs. Thanks for asking. Nice.

Congrats. Yeah. Big win. Back at it. Thursday, short week. Big one. Big one on Thursday. Let's go. I wish my boys look.

Good luck. What'd you end up watching? Shout out. Create it. Ben. Southern Miss. Lock. I told you.

Big time win. Nailed. Multiple possessions. As an underdog. No biggie. So I know what the people want to know, which is what I pick is for this week. This time I'm raising the sticks. If my pick is going to be,

this week, I won't call back ever again. Everyone can be free from me talking about football on this MMA podcast. No, we'll miss you. We'll miss you, Brett. No, he's going to hit. But this is the biggest lock of all time because I have work. Of all time. Right, not a guarantee. I have a sword deep, deep within the department that tells me this weekend at home against Michigan, parents Crawford is going to walk the huckers out. We're going back to the Nebraska well. The place is going to go insane. It's already going to be on 10, right?

My fiance herself is worth at least 100,000 people, and there's already 90,000 people in there. You should hear her scream. You think I'm loud. You think I'm obnoxious. She's locked in. Oh, we've heard her, real. She's screaming tackle all the time.

Doesn't even know what the place's going on. She's just screaming tackle. And the boys listen, okay? So I tell you, right now, Huskers by, I'm going to say 30 to 20, 31, 21, someone right around there. Terrence Crawford walks him out. the boy fired up and after we win I'm going to call and be the most obnoxious person on the planet or something crazy happens we lose you'll never have to hear

for me again go take all the money take your 401k your Roth IRA he's putting it all out there out go put it on the Huskers as dogs go big red see you at the top we have to start a ladder challenge with with Brett's picks because they've been absolute stone cold locks the the Nebraska first week now southern miss now we're going back in Nebraska plus 105 we're starting the last challenge this week. Go Huskers. Go Terrence Crawford. Brett, you have to continue to call in. We will continue with voicemails after this quick break. Done on fast, only on YouTube now. All right, welcome back. A few more voicemails to get to. Thanks to everyone for Center of Menn.

What else we got, Frankie? So, boys, is round two. I think my signal dropped, so whatever happened there, I'll just move on. Just wanted a shout out right. He just said my family. As soon as I saw he had money on. What's his name? John Silva, he was hyping him up. He said his technique, it's all this, all that. I said, you know what? Thanks for feeding my family.

Plus money on him, I have to. And so I did. Now my children's children won't have to work. So shout out to Rick. And I almost bet on Canello, but I kind of... Oh, I don't get credit for that. I don't get credit for that one, though. Take your work for it, and you...

Just tell us. That was on the dot. Canello looked like he didn't even want to be there. Terrence looked like the freaking best boxer of all time I've ever seen. So I don't know. What do you think is next from him? Thank you. I really don't know.

Terrence could do anything. Truly. I have no idea. Yeah. I don't even know what weight class he's going to fight at next. I don't even know if he's going to fight an actual boxer. If he's going to have someone crossing over, I truly don't know. And I don't think he knows either at this point.

Congrats to you, though. I'm glad your family. It's doing well. yo boys in the back serious from Baton Rouge again second time calling in hey shout out of Baton Rouge I was just in here thinking like you guys

phone online reminds me of like the old Dateline advice like people used to call in and I'll see it on TV later night Do you know about Dayline? Dateline NBC No it's not Dateline it was called what's someone with Dr. Drew

I'm single I have no kids I work for a time job Love line Love line Love lie feel like I'm missing some purpose. I'm happy but I just don't know exactly where

I'm hitting. That might be a bigger question you got to give me, but I would like your opinion. Where was your guy's head that when you were 26 years old? Hopefully the audio isn't crap. And I know

that was like maybe three millennials will go for you, Frank. But yeah, just a great question. You don't get to be your own team. I love it. You old fuck. You old fuck. Everyone have a good weekend.

Grand Ditty over here. I heard that Rick was going for Jean-Silva, so I knew I had to bet against him and feed my family. I love it, I love it. All right, so y'all were yapping over him, spilling his whole life story. Yeah, we were kind of. 26, single.

Single, feels like he doesn't have purpose, direction in his life. And then he asked where we were, when we were 26, 26 was 2019. Wow. I was in Bristol working graveyard shifts 10 p to 6A on the weekends It was tough

It was tough it wore me down hard So yeah dude You have ample ample time To to start finding joy out of your work And finding something to do In terms of purpose I don't really know I think that's finding like what you care about

What aligns with your values what aligns with your beliefs, what you feel like you are brought here to do. And that's just something you're going to have to find out on your own. The single thing, I don't sweat that. You are 26 years old, man. Everybody wants a partner in their life, but like you just don't know when that's going to happen for you.

Or not. Maybe you don't. And that's not the end of the world. That is not the end of the world, man. When I was 26, I was just starting out, like working with Ariel, like infancy of my real career that is now my full-time thing. I also like didn't know what I necessarily wanted to do, but the thing that I did at 26

that has served me well now and that will probably serve you well is just take chances and go out and do things. You're not going to find that purpose by just like sitting home and stewing about it or kind of you have to like go out there and live some life and really like get old enough. you might not know what you really want to do until you're 30. You might not really know what you want to do until you're 35. You have to go out there and experience these things and really try things in life to the point that you know yourself, you start to learn more about yourself. And you're never going to do that just by thinking about, oh, what is my direction?

You'll find it, but you need to go do something. So go, if you have some things that you've been looking across off your bucket list, go do them. If you have some things that you've always wanted to do and you felt like, yeah, is now the perfect time, there's never a better time. Just go do some things, learn about yourself, and then that direction will start to become clearer and clearer and clearer. Whether it's, I want to be a family man, I want to have all these kids, I want to pour myself into my work, you have to kind of find yourself.

And so go do that. Well said. What's up, boys in the back? This is Ryan from Long Island. just had a question for you guys and I guess anyone in the back the question is your post-work routine for me I'm a special education teacher in New York and a lot of the times when I go home my decompression is kind of going into the backyard sitting out for a bit no phone no nothing maybe a little pendulum and kind of

processing the day. Curious what all of you guys, Frank, Rick, G.C., Andy Jordan, everyone, what your go-to decompression post-work routine looks like. All right? Thanks for all you guys do. And keep up to good work. Yeah, pretty crucial thing is the post-work routine. I usually get home immediately, like, try to change out of whatever I was wearing

just to get comfortable and separate a little church and state from work and everything like that. I've also, I finally gave in and bought this thing called a brick. It's this like thing you make a wall out of. No, I'm just kidding. It's this thing you scan, you scan your phone and it shuts down all the apps so you can't get into them. And then like there's like a physical barrier to go do it. So if it's not already bricked, which it is right now, I'm bricked up.

And my screen time has been down dramatically since getting this. I'll walk in, brick the old phone up off it, can't. it on YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, these things that will keep me on the phone, break the phone, try to eat as soon as I get home, and then, like, I'm with you, I wish I had a backyard. I got a nice courtyard that I can go decompress in, but yeah, just try to decompress and, like, not think about work, not think about job, anything like that, and just try to do something to relax and try to not think about the next day either is what I usually try to do. I'm on the phone, unfortunately. Like, I mean, it's not the ideal one, but, like,

I don't, I don't get the anxiety around the phone. that a lot of people do. Just waste too much time on it. For me, that's my decompression. I'm just on there. I'm playing magic. I'm scrolling bullshit, watching TikToks. Once I get home, though, like this is, you know, commute and stuff.

Once I get home, I'm probably hopping in front of the laptop and watching a movie, something like that. But nothing too crazy. I listen to some music. My way home, I always let my wife know, hey, I'm on the way. Okay, something happens in the commute. Ask her to fire up the amplifier, so it's all ready for me to go. when I get there and yeah you do you stare at the wall no um sometimes they'll read sometimes I'll fuck around on my phone sometimes I actually just sit there and I guess I do

kind of stare at the wall yeah I try to read a good amount too been reading a good one called the Hobbit lately haven't heard of it yeah the whole movie series based off it have you got into Tom Bombadille yet oh man spoilers come on bro I mean Jesus Christ it's a good chunk of the book so you just prepare yourself billbo shout out to the bag man what I'm definitely not Bricked up huh doing any Lord of the Rings

stuff to decompress but just find something that's like enjoyable does not be the same thing every day some days I cook some days I go on a bike ride jump in the uh the old ocean you know just something that's enjoyable for you that's not anything related to what you do

on a daily basis bingo that's that's the crucial part for me I don't know just anything but work you guys didn't see the group chat I'm like I know even for 30 minutes be like hey man you want to go uh meet up for a beer we're getting off the train at the same time let's go grab a drink shut out i've just been walking uh on a treadmill while i watch some tv it's been really nice hell yeah i love walking i'm on a crazy 10k steps streak right now like like almost four months oh shit were you inspired by the hobbit no but i've been getting my my damn steps in lately

Love that All right, I guess it's rolling Listen, boys Sam calls from the 613 Capital City of Canada Home of the iconic 2019 U.S.C. Fight Night Had men

Havelione, enraged now that Quincy. Hey, shout out! We'll circle back to that. Rick asked for more mailmen to call in. Yes. Knowing full well, the world's number one

best mailman in the world is setting just a few feet away from him. And I'm referring to mailman Frank. Because you guys have been nailing that in a week after that. That's fine. But almost every week, what are we doing here? Put yourself in my shoes, all right? After work, I put the show on in the background.

I'm trying to do too fast. The boy just takes on the house with some things. And get the about pound for pound segment. And just like, fuck and claw. The Frank's pamphor pound list just fucking ruins it. Just unconcerned, uninterested, blasey bullshit. I'm trying to unwind. I got to do a frank pathetic pamphor poundless.

Like, dude, unacceptable, right? Like, Frank, that's like the UFC Apex. You know what I mean? Like, it's flawed, bottom pure bullshit. You're kind of sit there and paris through it. There's the reason why if I go to a pie shop, they don't have fucking trim cocktail on the menu. That's not a freaking pie dude.

Like, please, just fucking get your shit together, man, because I don't know. I don't know how much I could take of this. I can imagine I'm, like, stamping his feet all he's saying this. Oh, man. Frank, your rebuttal, man. The number one mailman.

There's nothing to be said. God, that was a, A banger call. That was great. Bravo to you. He mentioned Ally Aquinto. We got some, Frank, we got some breaking news. Next week on this here show.

So reminder, next week's schedule, Monday, Boys in the Back, Tuesday, the return of the MMA beat. Wednesday, a classic clips play out by Ariel Hawani. Thursday, Boys in the Back, Friday the Crack. So we'll be with you twice next week. We'll be with you on Monday. On that Monday show, we will be joined. studio by Al Aiaquinta. Raging Al-Iakwinta, Long Island's number one real estate agent in studio, joining us for the program.

Title Challenger. Title Challenger, fought Habib. If you want to submit voicemails, we're going to see if Al can stick around and listen to them. So tag Al in the voicemail. Ask Al questions. Make the voicemails for Al. We'll also do a little Al-Aquinta-related pound. pound list. Yeah, we'll come up with Reginal. It's going to be a great show, though. Not a ton going on

this weekend, not a ton to react to. Maybe there'll be some big breaking news, who knows. But we're going to have Reginald, Hyacquinta, in studio, chop it up with him. So hype. Get some inner workings of Rick's home purchasing. No, we're not going to do that. It's going to be great. It's going to be great stuff. Shout out to Reginald, though. And you get us twice a week. Next week only. for one week. Yeah, for one week. You get us twice next week. I'm sure there's boo, booed, boo going on.

Shout to Reginald, though. That means two pound for pound list next week, huh? Yeah. Sucks for that last caller. I'm a bad week. I'm seeing Cross in the chat. He's saying Reginald is coming in studio to fight G.C. For all the Long Island slander.

It's possible. And a fight we shall have. And to sell us each a house. What's good, boy? What's up, Jim? It's your boy, Bodkins. God damn it. Every time, I think I fucked out.

Saturday battling the demons all the way through until you have to throw the white talent, which got me thinking, boys. Would you rather be throwing up all day or would you rather be pooping all day? Easy. Just, you know, what's the worst of the two evils? Shout out, boys. Have the blessed week. It's your boy, Bodkins.

We'll catch you later. Shout out, Bonkins. Shout out of Bodkins. No-brainer. downstairs dumping diarrhea all day overthrown up man throwing up a one undone I'm still taking diarrhea but like come on

dude throwing up is miserable man what if it was one and done throw up though versus like real stomach oh one and done throw up or a whole day oh one and done throw up just throwing up isn't like throwing up is not that bad it takes like 10 seconds and you like you said frank most of the time it is relieving it's when it's like 10 times and it's all night and then like each time you do it it starts like kicking your ass and you become so dehydrated and it's just horrible by the end of it and like you're literally like a corpse and you're not sleeping like that's when it's terrible

um but yeah this is when it works through you so you started with that oh you got over it stomach starts to hurt and now it's up the other end no the actual the actual worst is when it's when it's simultaneous yeah and it's like you can't stop anything and it's just like just going to need a day there, boss. She's going to need a data to recoup after that one. Yeah. He said all day, though. Yeah. I'm with you. Agreed.

A big bottle of water. We'll make it through. What up? Double D. It's a slow weekend for PFL and the UFC this week. So, try to do some looking to the future. First off, going to start short term. ahead we have next weekend

made too much sense to do it this weekend we are going to have the official debut of MMA mailman affliction now there's been a lot of great pollens all over the world I'm pleased to announce our very first event is going to be in Australia yeah the announcement of MMA Pacific the four-man tournament

it's going to be only eight fights or excuse me four fights eight fighters on this card we have have the Roo Puncher Malone versus Clancy hostage due Murphy

Trevor parcel bomber Higgins versus Dean return to sender foster Waza junk mail Edwards versus Collins stamped out Prazier and finally the main event

Huey Postman's Knox Doyle versus Nige Air Mail Johnson now looking farther ahead to the future we have another great announcement EFL Noche

yes the completely original idea of course it is going to be taking place May 5th, 2026 the inaugural inaugural that's a word EFL Noce

to celebrate Cinco de Mayo and every matchup on the card is going to be Mexico versus France okay this week's admin back Frank segment is sponsored by Aperture Science, Aperture Science,

who's brought you such amazing inventions as Genetic Life Form and Disc Operating System. Aperture Science, we do what we must because we can. Frank, which of the Call of Duty series is your favorite?

This question goes to anyone. I just assume Frank has played all of them. Let me know. Let me know what you think of MMA Pacific, and who would you like to see on PFL, Noce. Thanks. Take it easy.

I know there's just like all the time caller there from, from Double D. The list, the being able, that's a promoter that knows his business, being able to list off every mailman and their nickname just like that rapid fire. He knows, he knows his fighters, he knows his mailman's. He cares. And then to come up with an idea on Cinco de Mile, like PFL Noce. So smart. A love letter to Mexico from Don Davis. That was

You've done it again Double Dap. Bravo. Call of Duty? Frank, Call of Duty? Actually, I don't fuck a Call of Duty. Yeah, I don't think so.

I'm a war of a strike kind of guy. But I do appreciate the call-out to Portal. That was a great game. The Portal. Yeah, War Zone for me that brought me and a lot of friends together during the pandemic. I was heavy on Call of Duty 4.

Right, like back 2006. Back in the day. It might be after that. It was right when Halo 3 came out. It was a little bit after that. more popular than Halo. And then Modern Warfare 2, super heavy as well, but that's when I started to trail off.

By Modern Warfare 3, I was completely out. So, like Call of Duty, though. I was good. Call of Duty's legendary. I was really good. I was a Halo guy when I was younger. Yeah, shout out. Yeah, shout out.

Yo, it's your boy, Aiden, from Omaha in the blast. Yeah, shout out, Bud Crawford. Shout out. I was just wondering, I never heard anyone, I don't think I've ever heard everyone do this before, but could I make a pound-for-pound list suggestion? Please. Because that's my favorite section. Hey. Y'all should do, pound-for-pound show opening scenes.

Yes. And yes, Frank, that includes anime. I love y'all boys. Have a good one. and don't listen to my first call, I fucked it up. Show theme songs is pretty solid. And I have to go listen to the first call because you fucked it up. I'm so in.

A good theme can elevate a show. Yeah. It's not a bad one. It's not a bad one. We need to have like a running list. We don't have it. You know who isn't going to make it? The wire.

If you've watched the wire. You're wearing a fan? Way down in the hole. And it gets like progressively worse. It's like shit. Yeah, I got some ideas turning in the old head, though. That's a good one. That's an evergreen one. Take that one to the bank. Yo, what's up, boys, in the back? And Frank and Andy, this is an original 415 resident calling.

Garrett San Francisco. Two things to me, boys. First of all, tell Big A.H to leave it alone with this Crawford, Tuproiria beef. Crawford would piece this man up. He has no interest in fighting this guy. What does Tepurier do for him? Number two, please answer me. what did Dana White actually bring to this promotion on Saturday? He did nothing. He was invited to stand up in the press conference. I don't think anybody bought Netflix because of his promotion. I'm curious how he can sit on his laurels.

Anyways, thanks for taking the call, boys. See you later. Right. Like none of the fighters, other than Callum Walsh, really have much to do with Dana Wade. Or like Zufa boxing related. He really didn't do anything. What was that?

Is it a desk coming apart? the skateboard fell down oh the skateboard fell the ghost of the set it landed it that's all that matter oh sick a little kickflip there yeah he really didn't have it like he didn't really do that much

he was just sort of like a figure a figurehead there to kind of beef up the promotion I guess but like in terms of actual promoting we didn't get any raining well defending

during the week he did more interviews than he's done in a while so at least if you consider that I don't know I feel like Dana White's involvement elevated it to a certain degree because, again, Dana White is a notable figure and helps that. But like, he did not seem super hands-on with it. I think we've all kind of like, you know, recognized and addressed that. We'll see what the actual Zufa boxing looks like. That's when I'm interested in what Dana White's profile on this, on this thing

looks like. That was it. All right. Any super chats? Yes, we do. Sick. How about my boy Diego Lopez? Not going to lie, he had me worried in the second, but seems like he was beating Silva. What do you boys think? P.S., good on you for honoring the bet so quick. Is that Nathan Garcia the one that you made the bet with, Ray? I think it is. It is.

Thank you for the $10, brother. Great bet. Yeah, Diego Lopez is that big of a dog. It just seemed a little suss. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. My fight of the year, I think, it's probably going to end up being, obviously, a few months left. But, yeah, man, what can you say?

Kid's a star. Kid is a star. Yeah. He's, I mean, it was a performance that lets you know, like, his toughness is not, is going to be there and the skills are still there. It was a perfect performance by Diego. And to be honest, like, there were some moments for Jean Silva, too. So I'm not like one of those guys who's like, oh, fighting nerds are cooked. He is cooked. Like, I think that was a great fight between two great fighters. But Diego showed, like, through his toughness, he's going to be in every single fight. Oh, yeah. The doggedness in him, the chin on him. And then to get up there, throw up the double birds, then in the post-fight, you start yakking in the arena. Power move. Power move. With a cherry on top.

Marvel versus Capcom or S&K for the Dreamcastor PlayStation was great. Thank you. Marvel versus Capcom nearly made my list, but Kingdom Hearts felt like a little bit more of a nostalgia bone hit. Shout out, Gamecast. I don't like that. Is Connor Chandler and Kayla Amanda big enough? Fuck yes.

Connor anybody If you get Connor McGregor on the card It's big enough, bro Yeah Like you have to understand that Like casuals are not going to sit there on tapology And comb through the prelims and the undercard And like you just need the one fight bro

That's all you need And if Connor McGregor's one half of it It's big enough Agreed And then lastly Luke says that he'll be seeing Tool soon hoping to meet Crawford We know Bud's a big fan Yeah probably not going to meet Bud

But Frank any words of advice for him, seeing to... Well, manage your expectations is I don't know if Crawford will be going down to either Australia or New Zealand anytime soon, but if he is as big of a fan as he might be. You know off-Rip where they're touring, eh?

Yeah, you don't? No. All right. But then, yeah, a couple of things I already may have told them in the chat. Bring a buddy with you to go to the merch booth for you to grab your beers. Maybe consider a catheter or a diaper just so you don't want to miss any moment of this.

Fucking catheter? But it's actually funny is they do have an intermission. Because the guys are getting old, so they all, they have to go to the bathroom themselves. Why did you have to say catheter, man? That shit makes my skin crawl. It gives me anxiety. Are you all right there? I mean, just imagining it is.

If you were on the verge of pissing yourself, you wouldn't go to the bathroom at the concert? I can't miss this song. I've already seen 19 times. Hyperbolic, guys, come on. I don't believe in hyperbole. Thank you to everyone for calling in. Thank you so much for the super chats. Thank you for watching.

Don't forget. I guess you can play us out. This one's long, it's all good. Do not forget. Crack tomorrow. Ariel away for Rosh Hashanah. We will be hosting on Monday, unfortunately. Sorry, that's what you get.

You get the boys in the back on Monday, but you get it with Raging Al Aiaquinta right here in studio, not only a legend of the game, but also Long Island's number one realtor. He will be chilling with the boys in the back. Leave your voicemails for them. Leave your super chats for them. It's going to be fantastic.

two Halwani specials a little what is it the beat the beat the MMA beat is reincarnated as the beat

and then you get a classic clips throwback I feel like we did the camera fade a little bit too early and then you get us again on Thursday

we'll be preview in Perth and then the crack and then we're back to your regularly scheduled program thanks for watching see you next week