The Ariel Helwani Show - Will Movsar Evlovev ever get a title shot? Plus, UFC's stacked June, UFC Vegas 107 preview, more | The Boys in the Back

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

The Boys in the Back kick off with a look at the latest in the Jon Jones and Tom Aspinall saga, including some light-hearted social media posts (03:05).Then, they discuss Movsar Evloev's tough road to a UFC title shot and some historic comparisons for other fighters who have had to wait for their opportunity (07:30).Next, they look ahead to the UFC's loaded June schedule (31:05), before breaking down UFC Vegas 107 (39:47).Finally, the Boys make picks (57:46), give their P4P MMA haircuts (1:01:41), listen to your voicemails (1:20:43), and answer Super Chats (1:54:33).LEAVE US A VOICEMAIL: [phone]

B-b-b-b-boys in the back. B-b-b-boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. What is good? We are back with another edition of The Boys in the Back. This time Thursday, May 29th on another gloomy day here in New York. I am one-third again because Big Frank is back. Before I even go to Rick, Frankie, how you doing, man? I'm doing great, man. Thanks for asking. Didn't mute my computer there. Sorry. Frankie, how you doing, man? I'm doing great, man. Thanks for asking. Didn't mute my computer there. Sorry, Frankie, if the audio got through.

I am Connor Burks, joined alongside me as always. Mr. New York Rick, look at him. The man, the myth, the legend. Hello. It's a beautiful day, man. UFC's back this weekend. Frank is back? Frank is back.

And it's Frank's birthday tomorrow. You excited, man? I am unbelievably excited. I'm a child when it comes to my birthday. What are you doing tomorrow? What are you doing? I'm gonna go to the USS Intrepid, get on a little flight simulator.

Oh, that's sick. Do an Apollo 11 VR thing, and then Sasa Bune for dinner. Wow, you're taking the Hawani wreck and going to Salsa Bune. Damn straight I am. That man loves that restaurant. Have you been before? I actually haven't. It's quite good. I'm looking forward to it. Flight simulator inspired by Nathan Fielder in season 2 of the rehearsal I assume? Absolutely that and Andor. What are you gonna be flying? I don't know yet that's a surprise. The Apollo 11 VR is really what I'm very interested in. Where's that at the Intrepid as well?

Yeah, it's like a Saturn 5 launch sequence that you're on a VR headset for and they have like the 40. Yeah I'm gonna take pictures. You'll see. Yeah, it's incredible. I can't wait to hear about it. So happy early birthday to you We went and celebrated last night was a tremendous dinner. We missed you at that Andy pizza The the rest of the gang but it was a great dinner. We missed you at that, Andy, Pizzi, the rest of the gang, but it was a great time celebrating Frankie Lenz. Today though, we have to talk about UFC being back, UFC Apex 107. In honor of that, Macy Barber won half of the main event,

so we'll do our pound for pound best haircuts in MMA. Macy Barber. You have to admit it's inspired. It's incredible. It's inspired. I mean it's one of our best in my opinion. I think it's gonna be a good one too. I think we're all gonna have very different lists once we get into it. But yeah, Macy Barber, Barber fighting in the main event this weekend. So we're gonna do best haircuts in MMA. We'll also talk about June which looks to be an unbelievable month for the UFC, one of the best ones we've had

in a long time. We'll just look ahead to the the four cards that are slated for that. And then Movsaar Vloyev who came out last week and said that he's not going to be getting the title shot against Alexander Volkanovsky. He's gonna accept the fight before that. We're thinking it's gonna be against the debuting Aaron Pico. So we'll talk about that, kind of compare his case to some other ones historically in UFC history. Is he getting screwed the most? Is this the biggest screw job we've seen in the UFC? Before we get to that, Tom Aspinall went on social media and responded, is that the right term, to the video of John Jones getting on the back of a scooter out in Thailand and riding away. Now to

be fair, this one was from Craig Jones. Now Tom Aspinall is in it, but this one posted by Craig Jones. Take a look. Take a look at this video here. at this video here. Craig, get off! Sorry, it's a Jonas thing, Tom. The way he says Craig get off is quite good. And then stop and stare back at the camera. Some tremendous acting from Tom Aspinall there, shut up. If you hadn't seen the John Jones clip of him over in I Believe Thailand, this is what

they are referring to in that video. He gets on the back, runs his hand through the locks, the hair pull, and then takes off. And see you later. I can appreciate that Tom is having a little fun with this now. Certainly when you're around Craig Jones, he's going to bring some levity to the situation and make it fun. You see that it was Tom, Craig, and Paul Hughes all training together.

Yeah. That's quite a room. Yeah, that's quite a room. That's quite a room. But man, you do have to feel for Tom at a certain point in terms of just waiting and waiting and waiting. To the point that that petition that has been started to strip John Jones, I believe it's up to nearly

150,000 signatures at this point. 144,640 signatures. Have you signed it yet? No, I will never sign this. Oh, I signed it. Not because I don't want Tom to get his opportunity, but I cannot sign something that says that they should strip the goat regardless. Oh, I signed it. I signed it twice. I would never sign it

But he should be stripped. I agree with it What number do you think it has to get to before Dana White acknowledges? There's no chance in hell that Dana White that Dana White's going mmm that that petitions get mighty big and then all of a sudden It's 300k now Dana White doesn't give a shit what they think. Yeah, of course not, but 144,000. I mean, the masses are starting to talk. The one signature that will change it is Tom Aspinall signing on the dotted line for his next fight.

That will be the signature that changes it. Because the moment they have decided that Tom Aspinall gets a fight and John Jones is not that fight, they will remove that belt and Tom Aspinall will be fighting for undisputed, if not made undisputed by default. And so that will be the signature that matters. Until then, they're just biding their time and waiting. Tom's just posting videos on YouTube. He posted another

one this morning where he was superimposed and then John ends up running away from him and he calls John a duck. In the end, I mean, I guess that's all he can do at this point, train and post some YouTube videos calling out John. Laugh to stop yourself from crying at a certain point. You know, like you have some fun with it to prevent yourself from facing the reality. Speaking of Tom Aspinall though. A great segue.

I just want to give a shout out to- Maybe even the whole reason we brought this up. This was literally the only reason that we brought this up. It was a great video, I mean, it funny. These these Tom Aspinall rookie cards. Check these out first of all. I mean. Careful with them. These are my this is my retirement. This is your retirement savings here. But all these like in in hard cases rookie cards for Tom Aspinall right. So when he's eventually the undisputed champion of the world these might be worth a pretty penny. Undisputed

champion of the world. Signed right here. Did penny. Undisputed champion of the world. Signed right here. Eight title defenses. So sick. Signed Tom Aspinall. This one, Jim Mint 10, Tom Aspinall, like, refractor. I just wanna give a shout out to Jacob Friedlander, who sent that to us over at Golden.

He's the man. And he's just a fan of the show who wanted us to have these keepsakes. Let me see the graded one. Shout out to Jacob, man. We can't tell you how much we appreciate this. I've always wanted a card in one of these cases that says 10.

Like the hard slab cards. Holographic with the Tom Aspinal on it. I mean, these are all fucking fantastic. Yeah, all these are rookie. What color is that? Nah, this one's just silver. It's no like blueberry blast or anything like that. Shout out to my trading days back in prior eras.

This one's got the auto, oh no, not this one, this one. Tom Aspinall. Tom Aspinall. In a case, that'll be worth something someday. John Hancock. That'll be worth something someday. Shout out to you, Jacob, thank you for sending those. Thank you, Jacob, we really appreciate it, brother.

Those'll be worth something when Tommy's the man. Heavyweight champion, long reigning, 10 title defenses, shortest average fight time. 10 title defenses? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just looking at it. I don't know if you're looking at your microphone. Oh boy.

All right, you know who is gonna have to work to get 10 title defenses? What a great segue. To get even one title shot, that's Movsar Avloyev last week, he took to Twitter. And he had this to say, in terms of him getting a title shot, if you're a UFC fighter and believe you are the best in the world then you have

every you have then you have fight every fight they throw at you essentially you have to fight every fight they throw at you no risk no reward see you guys in July it's on hashtag Abu Dhabi yeah so essentially broadcasting it's not gonna be a title shot I'll fight in the Abu Dhabi card and we'll see what happens next. He then said to the champion, Alexander Volkonovsky, thank you champ for trying to fight me. I will fight in July and you fight in September.

Hopefully we both win and we can meet in December. So he's obviously alluding to the potential of Alexander Volkonovsky. If he's, if he's referring to September, then he would be talking about Noche UFC, which made people get into a stir thinking it was Yair Rodriguez. There's been no confirmation of that. There is a chance that Alexander Volkonovsky just doesn't fight. Yeah and Ariel clarified some of that on the show Wednesday, maybe we talked about it Tuesday or Wednesday, one of the days earlier this week we were off Monday for Memorial Day but that this is Movsar maybe getting ahead of himself here in

terms of Alexander Volkonovsky's plans but I don't think there's any doubt that he's clear about his plans which are fight somebody in July and all the scuttlebutt all the talk all the rumors seems to be focused on a fight between Movsar Avloev and Aaron Pico. Irregardless of whether or not Alexander Volkonovsky fights or not to be focused on a fight between Movsar Avloev and Aaron Pico. Irregardless of whether or not Alexander Volkonovsky fights or not, Movsar is 19 and 0, 9 and 0 in the UFC. And there isn't really a rightful contender at 145 right now

with Ilya obviously leaving, vacating the belt, Volk winning. Diego is coming off of a loss to Volk, Max Holloway has moved up to 155. It feels to me like it's a no-brainer that should be Movsar next for the title. Yeah, and that's what's the hardest part to swallow for me is that we started looking back at some of the... Because I'll say it definitively. Let me start with this. I'll start with a declarative statement. I think Movsar Evloev is getting screwed. I think this is one of the most egregious times that somebody has been looked over for a title opportunity.

If, and again, he's pointing to July, we don't have the official reporting around that. If he does end up fighting in July and it is anybody but Aleksandr Volkanovski, if it is anything but for the title, he's getting screwed. It's egregious. It's one of the most egregious things ever.

And the point you pointed to is the most important. And look at these rankings. Max Holloway is gone to 155. Diego Lopez just lost Alexander Volkonovsky. By the way, he has a win over him. Correct. He has a win over Diego Lopez. Correct, who just got a title shot.

Just got a title shot. Ilya Taboryev gone to 155. So just go ahead and remove them. Niair Rodriguez is one and two in his last three. A loss to the champ in which he got finished, and his win is over Patricio Pippo who we don't really know how to rate that at this day and age. It's not like he's been on a great run. He's an unranked UFC fighter. He lost his debut. There's no real weight behind that in terms of him getting a UFC title shot for Yair Rodriguez.

And go one below that to Arnold Allen, who Mausser has a win over as well. Like he is the only name there that makes any sense to get a title shot. Yeah, not only is he 19 and 09 and 0 in the UFC, but his wins include Aljomain Serling, Arnold Allen, Diego Lopez, Danny Geh. Yeah.

Insane. It's ridiculous. And so we agree, yes? You agree that this is egregious and he's getting screwed. I think if anybody disagrees, they are lying to themselves. Like if they actually do end up making him fight Aaron Pico in July, and then Yair Rodriguez

were to get the title shot for Noche UFC, not only are you skipping out on the Diego Lopez, Yair Rodriguez fight, which has heat built into it, is a true contender fight, one that would be deserved by both. It it would just be it would be the most egregious it's hard to wrap my head around if they end up actually doing that I wouldn't be able to wrap my head around how egregious it would be even if they don't let's say they don't do Yair yeah there is still nobody else it's

still ridiculous it's only Monser you should not be fighting Aaron Riggas you should not fight again okay so could really make the argument that he could have been fighting on UFC 314. 100%. He has beaten Diego Lopez. Likely should have been fighting on UFC 314. I know, look, Diego is a very popular fighter, has an exciting style. That fight ended up being fantastic.

This is not an indictment on Diego Lopez. But Maasar Evloes has a win over Diego Lopez, and he is somehow behind him in the queue. Regardless, the two things that are most important that I think are vital to this conversation are one, there's nobody else, right? It's one thing to go, I deserve a title shot. Think of Walter Waite for an example.

Everybody in that division is like, I deserve a title shot and you know what? They kind of have decent cases. All of them have one case or another. Shot got undefeated. There's gonna be one dude who gets the title shot, let's say after JDM and his slump fight. There's going to be one guy that gets the title shot,

and it's going to be rightfully so. And there's gonna be like six dudes that you can be like, yeah, they probably could have gotten it as well, but none of them will be getting screwed the way Movsar is. Because there's nobody else. It's Movsar and nobody else. There is not another person in that line. He's the only one.

He's standing in line line and like for ice cream and then the ice cream guy is looking over here just to serve somebody else. There's literally nobody there. It's just him. That's point number one. Point number two is Alexander Volkanovsky has said his name, has called him out,

has said that I want to fight this guy because he's the rightful contender. I want him. To the point that he, Movstar is acknowledging Alexander Volkanovsky for it, being like I know you wanted to fight this guy because he's the rightful contender. I want him. To the point that he, Movstar is acknowledging Alexander Volkonovsky for it. Being like, I know you wanted to fight me. Thank you for that. Appreciate it, man. But I'm gonna take this fight in July.

All right, so there's two things I have to, so he's getting screwed. Two things from that. One, Movstar is kind of a gangster. Like the idea that he's just like, look, this is a bad hand, but I'm gonna go fight. I'm gonna beat this guy and then I'm gonna go get a title shot it's kind of a gangster move Alexander

Volkonovsky also a gangster to be like I know they don't want this guy to fight me I know nobody wants to fight this guy give me this guy also a gangster so I think they both deserve a lot of credit it's very bizarre I don't understand why he would have to fight somebody else I guess if we guess if we're projecting on behalf of the UFC, I guess the answer is they don't really want him to fight for a title and they'd rather have somebody else do it. He is nine and only in the UFC.

All nine wins coming via decision. Yeah. So like there's the argument to make that like maybe he isn't the most exciting fighter, but still it gets to a point and we've seen it happen several times. Honestly, in recent years, where these guys are on these massive win streaks,

they're not really fan favorites, but eventually you just have to let meritocracy reign and give them the title shot because they've deserved it. There's nobody else, there's not a soul alive. And the other thing about Mozart that I think is, we have to stop this idea that like, grappling and decisions equals boring. Like, I get it, It's not knockouts.

It's not first round KOs. It's not Alex Pereira. I totally understand that. But this idea that the Al Jamein-Stirling fight or the Diego Lopez fight were boring is totally ridiculous to me. And also, on the heels of one of his fights, Dana White came to the back of the press conference.

I don't remember. Maybe it was Arnold Allen. It might have been the Arnold Allen fight. He comes to the back of the press conference, and he's remember, maybe it was Arnold Allen. It might have been the Arnold Allen fight. He comes to the back of the press conference and he's like, that was the most boring fight I've ever seen. And I couldn't have disagreed more. I didn't feel that way at all. Was it, as I said, Alex Pereira coming in there

and just icing somebody in 30 seconds? No, but was it boring? I really think there's this idea that if you have a string of decisions, Balal Muhammad boring, meanwhile he's going in there and going to war with JDM. This idea that these guys who go to decisions are just these boring fighters, I'll never understand it.

Grappling doesn't have to be boring. The Al Jameen Sterling and Mausar fight was one of the best fights of the year and it was all grappling. It's kind of this bullshit that I don't really understand from a fan perspective or abide by. But either way, if there was somebody else out there that were going like, oh my God, this guy's all action, he's gonna bring in Diego as an example, right?

We're expecting fireworks. Okay, he got a shot now. Now it's time for Mossard to get it. There is nobody else. Yeah, I mean, look behind him. Arnold Allen, he has a win over him. Can't do it again to him. Brian Ortega not getting a title shot.

And probably not even in this division. Lerone Murphy also fights to a lot of decisions as well. It's not like he's going in there and icing people. Al Jermain Sterling, he has a win over him. Josh Emmett is coming off of a loss. Like he isn't going. This is it. Like it has to be Mosar.

There is no argument any other way. There literally is no case for anyone else. And if Mosar loses, say he does end up fighting Aaron Pico in Abu Dhabi, I mean, will he ever get a title shot? I would say no. I don't know what he would have to do. And it's a no-win situation from his perspective. Let's say it ends up being Aaron Pico, right?

Let's say he fights Aaron Pico in July. That's gonna be viewed as a guy who wasn't even ranked in the UFC who came over from Bellator. Are they gonna give that the same weight as potentially people are supposedly giving this win over Pitbull that Yair Rodriguez had from a guy who was entering Bellator? Or are they gonna go,

ah, another decision from Masar who beat a guy who wasn't even UFC caliber? It's pretty egregious, it's pretty bullshit. To the point that you and I both looked up some of the more egregious like, passovers or why somebody didn't get a title shot or what was the situation at the time I've come to a few that I feel are pretty close I'm very interested to hear what you have but this one feels a cut above for me all right look maybe we trick we trade like I'll pick one and you pick one one of

the most egregious that I that I can remember it just happened and it's Tom Aspinal getting passed over for a Stipe Miocic. That's horrible. Like I get it, it's a fight that John, John Jones is in a different category. John Jones has the ability to pick that, right? John Jones can go, I want Stipe.

I don't know that Alexander Volkanovski has that kind of clout, right? I don't think, and by the way, I don't think Alexander Volkanovski's interested in kind of doing that kind of picking. He wants Movsar because he wants the toughest fights and he's a gangster like that. John has the ability to say, I wanna craft my legacy. I wanna win over what many consider the best heavyweight.

There's a little bit of a justification there, but it is pretty egregious with Tom Aspinall sitting there. So that's one for me. Tom Aspinall, who not only was the interim champion, but had defended the interim belt at that point. And he could have easily fought on that MSG card because his fight with Curtis Blades was all of 90 seconds and it happened at the end of July.

I'm with you, that was near the top of my list as well. Might also happen very recently. And it is somewhat similar to this one as well. And it's Marad Debalashvili. Him on a nine fight win streak with wins over Piotr Jan, Jose Aldo, Marlon Marais, and he fought just weeks before who he got passed over for Marlon Chido Vera on the Miami card

against Sean O'Malley last year. He fought just a few weeks before at UFC 298 against Henry Cejudo who he also beat. So when Chido Vera entered the octagon, just a few weeks before at UFC 298 against Henry Cejudo who he also beat. So when Chido Vera entered the octagon who was one and one in his last two getting a title shot off of a win over Pedro Munoz we know why he was there it was because of the the injury fight against Sean O'Malley where where Marlon Chido Vera was was given the win in that one and they wanted to run it back for

the title. But when Chido entered the octagon, Maradon de Valas really was on a 10-fight win streak with wins over Jan Aldo Marais and Cejudo and he didn't get a title shot. And we see it a lot with these guys where they go on these insanely long win streaks. He ends up getting it. He ends up beating Cejudo and then he ends up getting the title shot in September and he wins the belt. And it's sort of like, Balal Muhammad had to go on this very long win streak, and once he finally got the title shot, he won it. Leon Edwards had to go on this very long win streak once he finally, he won it.

It's almost like these guys that put together these massive win streaks are actually pretty good. They're pretty good at fighting, yeah. Totally agree with that one. That one was on my list as well. Another one. Should we do more contemporary or should I go back further?

You can go back further. Let's go back further. All right. So like, I don't have a ton where like they, these people are blatantly getting screwed over. I have one more. There's always some kind of justification, right? Yeah.

And there's other ones that are like, I have two that are just strictly bad luck. That is just like, damn. Let's save those for the end. Cause I have a thought on a bad luck one, but this fight could have been made and it just wasn't. Yoel Romero being passed up for a title shot against Michael Bisping and instead the title defense coming against Dan Henderson was ridiculous. Yoel then goes on to knock out Chris Weidman, calls for the Bizbing fight. I think from there Bizbing then fights GSP

instead of Yoel Romero. But you're fighting GSP at MSG. I kind of understand that one. The one before that though, where Yoel's sitting there on a win streak and they give the title shot to Dan Henderson, I get there was beef there, that one was pretty egregious.

Another one that I have, Balal getting passed up for Leon's title defense against Colby Covington, egregious, ridiculous. Like, I get that Bilal was in the same position as Mosar where everybody's like, I don't really want to see it. And Leon has a quote unquote win over him. It's a no contest, but everybody when they're talking about that fight acts like Bilal was getting dominated for the two minutes that this fight lasted win over him. It's a no contest, but everybody when they're talking about that fight acts like

Bilal was like getting dominated for the two minutes that this fight lasted when he got poked in the eye everybody's recollection of that fight is like, ah move on who the fuck cares like Bilal got beat up and Leon beat up Not how that fight went at all Um, Bilal getting passed over for a Colby Covington title shot against Leon was was pretty egregious as well And then Colby Covington's performance to follow it up. Yes horrible. Not worth what we had passed on in Bilal versus Leon. Okay looking back one that I came up with was Gray Maynard was undefeated this is in 2010 he was undefeated with a win over Frankie Edgar and they gave the title shot to Frankie Edgar. Yeah okay against BJ this is. Yes he ended up getting the title shot to Frankie Edgar. Yeah, okay. Against BJ, this is.

Yes, he ended up getting the title shot a few fights later against Frankie Edgar. And this actually ties into one of my bad luck ones. Anthony Pettis was WEC champ when the merger happened. And he was slated to get the winner of that Edgar versus Gray Maynard fight. It ended in a draw, so they had to run it back. Oh, fuck yeah. And in the meantime, he took a fight against Clay, so they had to run it back. Oh, fuck yeah.

And in the meantime, he took a fight against Clay Guido. Oh no. And lost. Oh, geez. And then he had to win three straight to eventually get the shot and he goes on to win. And then he eventually gets it and he becomes champion. That one isn't like him getting,

he got screwed, but it wasn't by anyone. The draw screwed him. It was just luck. Yeah. I didn't recall that Grey maybe probably should have gotten that title shot instead of Frankie and it kind of reminds me maybe of that Diego Lopez getting a title shot before Movstar, right? Like he has a win over him, but people want to see this more. That's a fascinating one. The one that I had trouble and I was thinking about it was like, did Leon Edwards ever actually get screwed? And I'm kind of looking at the landscape, and I feel like it was more of just a timing thing,

if I'm being honest. Now, don't get me wrong. Leon Edwards could have had a title shot, and the fights against Jorge Masvidal were not because Jorge Masvidal earned the opportunity against Kamaru Usman. I mean, the second one, certainly not. But you look at the timing of it,

it's like, Leon Edwards, no contest against Bilal is March 2021. Kamaru Usman defended against Jorge April 2021. So they're kind of on the same path and trajectory. But then Leon fights again in June 2021. So now that's after Kamaru's fight has already happened, which then puts him on a different timeline and now Kamaru does the Colby Covington fight, which was a rematch of a highly anticipated. In that time since, Colby Covington picked up a win over Woodley, I want to say. And so that fight actually made sense. It's not like it was like, oh man, Leon's getting screwed

and they're giving some, it's not the Colby Covington versus Leon title shot. The Colby versus Kamaru title shot made a lot of sense. And so I don't know, it felt like it was maybe just in a fortunate circumstance situation with Leon Edwards. Certainly you could've given him one, but. They also booked the Leon Masveral fight for the pay-per-view after

the Camaro versus Colby fight Obviously Masvidal ends up withdrawing but those guys were all swirling around Colby was not the product that we saw in the one that he eventually did get against Leon it made sense for him to be in that title picture at that time and so Leon may have gotten screwed, but I do feel like there were other rightful kind of like contenders and conversations and fights that made sense. The second Mazad al-Fayt, I didn't need to see it, it really didn't do much for me, but he saved them in terms of stepping in on that mid-event on short notice, they give him another

crack. There was always like kind of like an explanation for justification for it. To me, it doesn't compare to some of these others and especially to MovSar where it's like, there is not another person. There is not a Colby Covington. There is not a guy that has heat with Volk. Whereas there, like if Iliad Taporio was still

in this division or all of a sudden comes back, okay, we can have a conversation, right? There is no guy. It's just MovSar. I'm with you. I'm with you 100%. One other one that I saw, and I don't know if it's like a hundred percent true Matt Lindland back in the 90s Was like a top contender of metalweight, but then he got cut because of a t-shirt sponsorship

He was wearing yeah that era when There was a little bit of cowboy nature people were doing some rogue stuff and all of a sudden facing consequences one other Obvious one. That's just incredible bad luck is Tony Ferguson. He ended up winning 12 straight fights and never fought for an undisputed title. Tripping over the cable. They tried to book it a few times is the unfortunate part.

Two interim title shots. Obviously loses the second one against Justin Gaethje and then that's what starts the losing streak. But that's a bad run of bad luck. It's a bad beat. It's a bad beat for sure. Tony's injury, Habib's injuries, COVID, all the things just screwed that over.

And it's one of the greatest ones. It's actually such bad luck. He got the interim belt. Yeah. And then won two more fights after that. Yeah. It was bad luck. Never fought for undisputed.

I don't feel like Tony got screwed by Habib or the reigning champion holding it up. He got screwed by the situation, and it was unfortunate. Because there are some to this day, shout out to Shaheen Alshadi, who maintained that Tony Ferguson would have beat Habib Nurmagomedov at that time. I think he's absolutely insane.

That would never happen. Of course not. But there are people out there. Yeah. Anyone else that you have on your list? That was it, that was my list. Like, for the most part, these title shops end up like making sense.

There's some very specific examples you can point to where it's like, eh, but often cases, even if it's like, man, this guy should have been getting it over this guy, there's at least two guys, there's at least three guys, there's at least a conversation to be had. There is no conversation. And honestly, Rob ended up getting his title shot. He eventually got it. Bilal got it up getting his title shot. He won Leon.

Got it. Graham Annerd ended up getting his title shot. Yeah, he didn't win, but he, you know, he got it. Six fights against Frankie, by the way. Leon. Those are worth going back to. Leon ended up getting his title shot. Anthony Pettis ended up getting his title shot. Tom He got it. Six fights against Frankie by the way. Leon. Those are worth going back to. Leon ended up getting his title shot. Anthony Pettis ended up getting his title shot.

Tom Aspinall TBD. Hopefully. Mosar Evloyev TBD. Actually, I feel very strongly that Tom Aspinall will get the shot. It's just whether or not it's against John Jones or not. He might not get the shot. He might just get the belt. They might.

John, my vacate and Tom's. And then the next fight. The champ overnight. Will be for the undisputed title John, my vacate, and Tom's. And then the next fight hole. The champ overnight. Will be for the undisputed title. It'll be a title defense. Yeah, yeah, it will be. Tony Ferguson, you know, that's just an unlucky. Unfortunate, really unfortunate.

Most of these guys end up getting their shot. The only way this goes wrong for Mosar is if that fight in July he ends up losing. If he loses, that would be a disaster scenario. I feel like Dana White's just like salivating to be like get a mouth I mean we talked about it on the show. I believe Ariel asked Would you give the title shot to Pico if he won and I guess yeah I mean I'd rather see that than Yair if I'm being honest like I guess I think Yair is a fantastic fighter

He's exciting. He's he's box office. He's a huge name, but I literally saw him versus Valk It's not like that fight has not happened I saw how that went could John Silva get one more win. Okay, somebody asked us a super chat from bougie alpaca Any chance John Silva gets the shot? He's arguably more popular than Yair Mosar. He's definitely not more popular than Yair He's definitely put more popular than Mobs are could he get the title shot? It's not a bad shout because I'm looking around and I'm like... I mean I don't think we needed that for that. That was a little unnecessary. Buzi Alpaca writes in, any chance John Silva gets the shot. He's arguably more popular than Yair and Mosfov.

Appreciate you Buzi Alpaca. But yeah, I mean it's not's not about shout. I would be surprised like to Along the lines of what we're talking about guys getting screwed to give John Silva a title shot before Mob star is is just egregious. It is it is not right It is not how this sport should be run again It'd be different if he's like number one number two number three John Silva was right there like he's just not there He's not close. He has one win over Bryce Mitchell. By the way, Mausser was supposed to fight Bryce Mitchell.

It ended up being the Diego Lopez fight. That was what that booking was supposed to be. Like this guy has tried to fight everybody. Nobody really wants to fight him. Aljimane Sterling came up from Banton Wade and was like, let's give it a go. It was a fantastic fight. There's not more this guy could possibly do to get a title shot.

What? He's in a fight, Aaron Pico is unranked. What more? Making his debut. Making his debut, what more can this guy fucking do? Two things I wanna say, first one, what if they actually end up looking Volk versus Yair? You would have to think, and say Yair wins,

you would have to think they would give Volk an immediate rematch. Yeah, they probably would, right? If he lost. Cause it'd be one-one at that point. Obviously Volk, you know, one of the greatest featherweights of all time. Mosar Evaluev never fights for a title.

2027, Mosar Evaluev, 13 fight, one streak, 22 and 0, however many it is at that point. One other guy that I just thought of that you could make an argument that that is getting screwed especially with where 125 lays Muhammad Mahyev seven and own the UFC there really wasn't a rightful contender and he just got axed I mean he kind of did it to himself a little bit we have to acknowledge that he made some mistakes and he suffered the consequences for them certainly you have to believe he would've fought for a title by now.

That would've been probably his next fight. But yes, another one that's a circumstantial one. But it's like, yeah, the self-inflicted wound on that one was unfortunate. We could see some in women's flylight with, if Zhang moves up, we could start seeing some people being forced. Yeah, like Natalia is gonna have to end up winning

like eight or nine in a row. She's already at seven. But that, yeah, but that's the thing. There are other names. I don't think they're getting screwed. I don't think they're getting screwed. Yeah, there are other names. The winner of this fight, Blanchfield and Barber,

is also somebody who's gonna vault into that conversation. I think Natalia Silva's ahead of them, certainly. But you have to think the winner vaults into that conversation as well, and then it's like, it's not getting screwed as much as like, we've got some options. There are no options. Moe's are getting screwed.

Moe's are. There's no options. Moe's are. Let's just make it our way. Hit the motherfucker, the title shot. Jesus Christ. It's bad. It's bad.

All right, I think we can say that unequivocally. Yeah. Moe's are deserves the title shot. All right, this weekend we've got UFC Apex 107, but that happens on Saturday, which is May 31st. So it doesn't officially count as a card in June. June is stacked. I am like after going Apex card

to all for Memorial Day weekend back to the Apex, I cannot wait for June. You've got UFC 316, headlined by Murab versus O'Malley, and you get a title shot, another title fight with Juliana versus Kayla. UFC Atlanta, Buckley versus Usman. Sick fight. UFC Baku, Hill versus Roundtree.

Sick fight. Sick fight. Both top seven matchups there in Exciting divisions with exciting fighters going on and then UFC 317 to poria Wait, is this the official post? This is like some graphic designer that like just enjoys doing what he does I'm sure I just grabbed it off of Google They haven't made the official poster yet infinitely better a I just grabbed it off of Google, they haven't made the official poster yet. Infinitely better! A trillion times better than whatever fucking slop they're gonna put out that it's going to be Toporia's face, Olivera's face, some colors in the back, and call it a day.

I mean, you just look at the three that are actual, and then that one on the same screen, and it's like jarring. Sure, your reaction of like, is this the actual poster? Because it's so unbelievable that it could actually be it. I mean shout out to whoever did this. The bull is fantastic, the lion is fantastic. It's an incredible piece of art. Hire passionate graphic designers or just start doing artist series for every poster. 100%. And you'll just become infinitely cooler. Hire that person.

Whoever made that Charles Olivera, Ilya Taboria. It's fire. With the lion and the bull, incredible. It's fire. I was actually doing some research. Yeah. This is the first double pay-per-view month. Okay.

You get two of those a year because there's 14 pay-per-views a year. First double pay-per-view month without an Apex card since March of 2023. Oh shit, okay. And that month we saw UFC 285, Jones versus Gan, Grosso upsetting Shevchenko, ended up being a great card. And UFC 286, Edwards versus Usman 3,

Gachi Fazeev, the first one was on that. The other two fight cards were Jan versus Marab in Vegas. Holy shit, alright. But it was at, it was at the Cosmo or something. Something that held like 10,000 seats. It wasn't MGM Grand. Virgin Hotel. Yeah, yeah. And then Cheeto versus San Hagen in San Antonio. Holy shit, alright, that one's pretty good too. That's a good month. That's a good month right there. I'm hoping in retrospect we look back on this one with similar fashion. The names at the top of the bill fit it.

The names at the top of the bill of all these cards are worthy of these opportunities. It's gonna be a little bit of a shock to the system. I love it. To be like, holy shit, we're rolling into real cards. And it's week after week after week after week. We are going June 7th, June 14th, June 21st, June 28th. I think I have the dates right on that.

But it's just week after week after week. June is massive. What's in July? So what's after International Fight Week? I think we'll do a week off because it's July 4th weekend. And then it's UFC Nashville, which is the Derrick Lewis main event,

which is a little bit rough. We'll go right back to the slop. It's not the apex. It's gonna be in front of a crowd that's probably gonna be pretty hyped in Nashville. And then we go, excuse me, 319. You good? Yeah.

I had a seltzer before this burp just came out of nowhere. It just escaped. It just came out of nowhere there. UFC 319. Okay, so the paper view is two weeks after International Fight Week. So the- Three. Three weeks.

You'll go off week Nashville, then 319 Poirier, Holloway, which is shimming up to be an okay card, but that main event is such a banger, it's okay. And then Abu Dhabi the week after. All right, so July ends strong. Also only one, no, no Apexes, right? No Apexes, you get an off week. All right, I guess we're rolling.

Next Apex card is August 3rd, so the week after. All right, so we're rolling. I can see August being a little bit tough, except for that Chicago card. Oh boy, the whole summer's just gonna be nice. I don't care what happens the rest of August. I know. Hamza versus DDP in Chicago is gonna be the event of the year. It's so sick. It's so sick. Are we going to the United Center? I feel like we have to. I'm trying to talk my way into it.

Frankie, you fill in on the watch party. We're going to Chicago. You got it, man. Thanks, brother. At the start of the year on the prediction show or the end of last year, I was like Humza vs. X for title shot is going to be my most anticipated fight and you motherfuckers, you less so but Ariel, Pizzi, oh Tom versus John, blah, blah, blah, DDP versus Hamza, still. I don't care about Tom versus John if I get that one. Tom, John is still my one but Hamza,

I believe if I'm not mistaken Hamza, DDP was my two. Yeah, I think that's right. I can't even begin to describe how much I can't wait for that one. June though, you're getting four title fights, two top seven matchups with Buckley, Usman, and Hill Roundtree, and then in addition to that, just a few of the fights that we're getting.

Yeah, what else is on there? Paulo Costa, Roman Kapilov, Benildi Ryushinato, Moekano, Brandon Roy Valminell Cop, which is just banger city. Let's go. If you don't like 125ers, that's the fight to change your mind. That one's gonna be sick.

Yeah, 125 is great. Rafael Fazeev, Ignacio Bahamondes. Oh wow, Baku's got that, huh? Yeah. Holy shit. Mario Batiste, Apache Mix next week in Newark. Oh yeah. Vicente Luque, Kevin Holland. They just, Kevin Holland,

he said he wanted to fight six times, he's almost halfway there. Piper Gastelum, there's some good fights. Oban Elliott now moved to Baku returning. Oban Elliott returning, yes. Holy shit, yeah, there's a lot. Debut in Baku. June's looking all right.

State Farm Arena down in Atlanta, we're gonna blow the roof off the place. June is looking all right, man. June is looking all right. Okay. After a ho hum May yeah, yeah the moine and you had Canada which started it off nice, but then it was a great event But it's just like like we're now hitting that point in the calendar where it's like alright. They're cooking we're starting We're starting to roll gets momentum. He'll eat Charles's. Oh god. It was Charles's

Charles wait Connor for you, so you're going You said you're going to Atlanta for the fights, is that what you said? Yep. And then you're going to Baku for the fights? Well, direct flight to Istanbul. Right, you're stopping in Istanbul. Boys in the Baku, and then straight back to Vegas.

Wow, what a month for you. We're all over the gaff. Holy, Nike's. Boys in the Baku, baby. If only, if only, that's the dream. I feel like we've got to shoot. Oh Frank you're in You're down for baku feel like we've got to go to baku got you go to my mom Are you are you coming? I feel like we've got to

Frank you ever been to Asia before I feel like I have been Have you been I've never been to Asia, okay, Baku Asia or Europe Frank? It's Eurasia. Wow he was paying attention. No, Eurasia Frank. Oh boy we're off the rails here. Should we start a GoFundMe for my flight to Baku? Because they ain't cheap. Okay important is the transplant gratis? Like have we talked to the place that- Oh yeah, hair time now? Yeah, hair time now? Yeah, I gotta hit them up. Gotta DM them.

Because then we might need to go fund me for that as well. To go fund me, let's get working on it. Istanbul, I can't wait. Heard it's a beautiful spot. Is this Istanbul or Eurasia, Frank? It's not Constantinople. What is Constantinople? But what is Frank doing?

Frank's doing this very cagey thing. There's a song, so it used to be Constant constantinople and there's actually a song that goes Istanbul not Constantinople. They might be Giants. It was a made famous. Oh the Animaniacs. I want to say okay It's temple none none doc Smith says is just put it on the company card done Trin Daddy says got to baku Frank's gonna make this into a thing, slogan. He'll wear the t-shirt on the flight. No, it's because every time Connor throws out an idea,

like, should we go to here? And then you always say, I feel like we've got to. I say it? It's like without fail, yes, yes. And then later we'll ask you like, so should we book those flights? You're like, ah. The worst part about it is,

if I'm saying it, I'm dead serious. If one of y'all was like, all right, I'm about to book a flight to Baku I'd be like oh hold on hold on let me get on the same one we got to go together like I am a thousand percent down descendant to Baku and I actually do the boys in the Baku. I feel like we got to. Since without fail. 24 inch dub says Baku sounds like a 007 place yeah it actually it actually does. Birthday Frankie, my new favorite mythical fighter. June is loaded. June is absolutely loaded.

But to get there, we gotta get through one more May card. UFC Apex, 107 Blanchfield Barber, the much anticipated, longly awaited, top five matchup. Number one contender-ish. Number four versus number five? Yeah.

I think it's the number one contender to the number one contender. Right, yeah. Aaron Blanchfield, Macy Barber. I actually think whoever wins this, Zhang will get the title shot. She'll move up to 125, get the title shot. And Natalia Silva will fight the winner of this one.

That would make sense. I mean, that'd be seven straight for Macy Barber. You are one away from a title shot at that point. No, certainly, and Macy has a lot of, like, Macy talks some good shit, she fights really tough, like, she's not going in there, we're talking about Mobsar and people like not being a fan of the style.

Macy Barber comes to scrap, like, Macy Barber comes to scrap. Macy Barber is trying to fight. First of all, I think a fight with Natalia Silva would be fantastic, but I think a Macy Barber title shot makes a lot of sense right now. She's on a roll. As I said, she likes to scrap. She can talk that shit on the mic.

The stuff she's been saying about Aaron Blanchfield, it's been a little bit spicy. She loves to scrap. She pushes a pace, she gets violent with it. Her doing that against Natalia Silva could make for an insanely exciting fight. And then obviously whoever wins that is just like, sit on the throne until you get the title shot.

That would be eight in a row for both of them, if we got to that point. For Blanchfield, puts you right back in the mix. Like, I know you got the win over Rose, lost to Monofiro before that. Win over Barbara puts you right back in the mix. Like I know you got the win over Rose, lost to Monofiro before that. Win over Barbara puts you right back in the mix. I feel like you're fighting Natalia Silva as well. Yeah, and.

It could be a troublesome matchup. The styles is way different on that one, right? You expect Macy Barbara to come forward and really try to press Natalia. Natalia doing her back foot thing, circling around, landing the kicks every once in a while. With Aaron, it's a completely kind of different game plan. Like can Erin get Natalia Silva to the ground?

What will we see from Natalia defensively potentially if she's able to do that? If she can't, you have to imagine that Natalia is gonna look good there. But she's got, I think she's got tough work ahead of her. The odds makers don't seem to agree with me. I think this fight is closer than the line would suggest in terms of how big a favorite Everett Lansfield is.

When I first saw that, I was a in terms of how big a favorite Everett Blanchfield is. When I first saw that, I was a little surprised at how big a favorite she is. I think this really just comes down to, is Blanchfield gonna get the takedowns? Yeah. If she doesn't, then I think she's in a world of trouble. I think it could be sort of similar to the Monone Fierro fight.

Yeah. I mean, she got essentially 50-45 in that fight. Monone just kind of cruised her way to victory. We were there in person for UFC Atlantic City last year. But the question is, can Barbara stuff the takedown? She's got a 53% takedown defense, she's gotten taken down in all of her last six fights. Andrea Lee took her down five times.

So we've seen her get taken down before. Erin Blanchfield is going to go for it. We know she's going to go for takedowns. And if she has the success, then I could just see her sort of grinding the fight to a halt, getting top control time, and sort of just wearing on her to a decision victory. Yeah, and you have to imagine that the stock,

the fight that Manon had against Valentina Shevchenko in showing her takedown defense in that fight is now, it reflects better on that Aaron Blanchfield fight. It makes you go, okay, Manon actually just has really solid takedown defense. She's strong, she's good at using her leverage, and she was able to keep Valentina from taking her down as well.

It has aged better for me to look at that and go, okay, look, Aaron Faye, somebody who has great takedown defense is a significantly better striker than her. Tough matchup, wasn't able to get it done. I imagine she's learned quite a few lessons from that. And again, to your point, you're looking at somebody in Barber who's takedown defense hasn't been as good

historically as Menon's. But I do wonder, the moments that it's on the feet, and if she can't do it for five rounds, the moments it's on the feet, is she gonna be outclassed in the way that she was against Minon? I think Barbara is the better striker, no doubt. The more powerful striker. And so in those moments where she's not on the ground,

is she going to be able to beat Barbara in those areas as well? Or is it going to be one of those close ones where maybe she wins the ground exchanges and Barbara wins on the field? Barbara wins the striking. And it goes 25. Yeah. I think it's going to get nasty. I think so too.

And I think Barbara's fantastic at that. She just makes fights fights. Like, it is not. I think it's gonna get nasty. I think so too, and I think Barbara's fantastic at that. She just makes fights fights. It is not- She's just a brawler. She's a brawler. It is not like a super technical game plan to stay on the outside to do this. It is, I'm gonna come forward and I'm gonna try to hurt you.

And she's been pretty clear about that, and also very clear about feeling like Erin Blanchfield does not do that, and feeling that she's boring and feeling that she doesn't have the kind of same grit and toughness that Barbara has. It's gonna be interesting to see when they do collide like what that looks like and if Erin is able to avoid it. First fight for Barbara in about 15 months,

obviously it was hospitalized. Dealing with some unknown illness. Yeah, so gonna be curious to see, you know, how she comes back from that. I feel like she'll be fine. The way that she's been talking this week, it seems like she's all set and ready to go. But I think it'll be a fun main event,

and it's got implications on who's gonna be fighting for the title. I like this a lot more stylistically than I like Minone versus Aaron Blanchfield, because like, that's this, those are the polar opposite styles, and sometimes that can just be kind of grindy I just feel like Barber is going to bring the fight to Erin no matter what there is going to be some kind of

like violent clash there is gonna be some kind of exchange it's going to make Erin either sink or swim and I wouldn't be surprised if she actually was able to get a submission I don't know if it has to go to decision I wouldn't be surprised she is so good there I wouldn't be surprised it has to go to decision. I wouldn't be surprised. She is so good there. I wouldn't be surprised if she was able to finish it. But it will require Macy going into her world and Erin being able to take advantage of those opportunities and capitalize on her aggression. And so let's see if she can do that.

But I view the fight closer than the line suggests. I don't know if I'm in a coin flip. Do I lean Blanchfield or Barber? I'm not 100% sure. I see it more as a coin flip. Do I lean Blanchfield or Barber? I'm not 100% sure. I see it more as a coin flip than the line, which he does. Co-main event, Mateusz Gamroth taking on Ludovic Klein. Talk about a shot here for Ludovic Klein. I mean, huge opportunity.

Seven fight on beaten streak. Has a win over Ignacio Bahamondes, which is starting to age very nicely. And now, still only 30 years old, he gets the number seven guy in the division of Mateitesh Gamra. Sleepy weekend at the Apex, he's getting a top 10 fight. Is Gamra or Momsar Evloev getting screwed more?

Who's getting screwed more? Right, because if you're Gamra, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you win, it's just like, yeah, man, you fought an unranked dude at the Apex, you were supposed to win. You lose, it's just like, bon voyage to that title shot, my man, you're 34 years old,

you're now on a two fight losing streak. The UFC isn't a massive fan of you anyway, as they've shown with the way that they book you. It's gonna be very tough for you to get back to a title shot. Against a guy who, even though he's unranked, Elutavid Klein is a absolute monster, man. He is a savage, he is a dog. And as you said, it's like a no win for Mateusz.

If he wins, it's like, yeah, you beat an unranked guy. So what, if he loses, it's see you never. Like you are not getting back here. We do not wanna see you wrestling guys to decisions by. Legit see you never. Yeah. Like you said, I think all the finishing upside is with Klein in this one.

91% takedown defense has only been taken down twice throughout his entire UFC career. If Gamroth's not getting the takedowns, I think it could be very similar to the main event. I think Klein's gonna be able to have a lot of success on the feed. Yeah, I forgot. We looked at the line, but I don't remember. What is the line on this one? I want to say Matej Gamrot last I checked was around like a minus 170. I think some people are betting him. We talked about it. He's now a minus 150,

Klein plus 130. We were looking at it and we were like, man, Gamrot minus 150 feels like a steal. And then you bet it and then he gets clipped in the third round and something weird happens. Or the takedowns are just not coming. Takedowns are just not coming. And you're just sort of like, oh, I guess it wasn't free. Yeah, it was a free money.

I guess that feels right. That's a stay away for me, but there is a world where we look back at it and go, this guy's top seven, he's an absolute savage. When you hear about the guys like Dustin Poirier, the guys that train with him, talk about him, they're like, yeah, Gamrath's the fucking truth, man. I know not everybody's a fan of his style, and again, we're talking, I've said it before,

I said it earlier today, I don't feel like grappling necessarily means boredom. Gamrath has been in plenty of exciting fights. But Ludovic Klein is really good, man. And this is one of those that he might, he might have been ranked if he had gotten different opposition. That's the way I'll put that.

Like, if he had been facing guys at this level, maybe he would have been ranked already, you know? We actually know that Gamrod is the truth. He's 24 and three. Sick. 13 and 0 and three. Sick. 13 and 0 in KSW. KSW double champ before coming over here and now has had a ton of success.

Has a win over Armand Sarukin, RDA, Fazeev obviously. That was due to a leg injury. Jalen Turner went to war with Dan Hooker last year. Like he's in exciting fights. I love how it's like sort of like the other guys you were talking about. The boring narrative when he was a fight of the year contender against Dan Hooker. Like he is his exciting fights. I love how it's like, sort of like the other guys you were talking about, the boring narrative when he was a fight of the year contender against Dan Hooker.

Like he is as game as they come. I think it's gonna be a good fight. Yeah. I think that's the fight of the weekend. I think this is the people's main. I'm very excited about it. I really wanna know more about Ludovic Klein cause I think he's as good as the guys on this level,

but we're gonna find out and Gamrott is a great test for that. Rameez Brahimaj taking on Billy Goff on short notice. This was supposed to be Oban, right? I don't know much about Billy Goff, I gotta be honest. The odds-makers seem to. Minus 360 Billy Goff on like a week and a half's notice. Yeah that was supposed to be Oban Elias fight. Yeah. And then he had to pull out because of the visa. Yeah I mean Brahimaj is sort of like sub or bust I guess and so we're just gonna trust Billy Goff to not get

subbed and get the dub. Shout out to Billy Goff. Welcome to the UFC. Welcome to the UFC, brother. I actually think he's, I believe he's had one before. Oh, is he? Yeah, Billy Ray Goff. Let's see. I think he's just coming in on short notice. Yeah, he's won more than the UFC. Trey Waters.

Trey Waters, all right. We're gonna find out. And he beat Kino Shida as well. All right, oh, all right. This is his third fight. Anacondender series. Billy Goff, all right. No luck. Welcome back. Well, you gotta a Contender series. Yeah, Billy Goff. All right. No, no, I'll come back Well, you got a no ball if you're gonna know Billy go

Yeah, your boy the hand yak Dustin Jacoby taking on go Lopez I'm gonna I'm gonna back Dustin on that. I feel like it's a Bruno Lopez 1401 I know but like the level of competition that we're talking about here in terms of came from LFA Contender series now is one fight in the US. Yeah, who Dustin Jacoby has been competing against at this level. By the way, in his glory run before returning to the UFC, Dustin Jacoby was fighting for glory.

And it was kind of a similar situation where it was just like, man, he's in there with the Alex Pereira's Israel Desana. It's like this level of guy. It's not been an easy road, but also I feel like that is responsible for some of the up and down nature of it. He is fighting like absolute killers at this level,

and I just ultimately feel like he'll be better prepared. He's got a chin of absolute steel. He's got that adamantium chin. It's gonna be tough to crack, and when he hits you, most of the time you're going down. So I think Jacoby can get it done. Ketlin Viera versus Macy Chazan. That's a fun fight.

It's a top five ban on weights slugging it out at the apex, baby. Slugging maybe not, but striking to a certain degree to it. I think, or though maybe Macy tries to make it into a little bit of a grappling match. I think... I think Ketlin could even go for some grappling. Wouldn't be surprised. They're both well-rounded

Primarily they tend to strike with their opponents. But yeah, maybe they see an opportunity there I think people are forgetting how good Ketlin was prior to the To the Kayla Harrison fight like she was one of the over me she tate Holly home Panic hands at she was the title talk conversation person. She was the one that it was like, oh shit, maybe this is too soon for Kayla. It ended up not being. Now it wasn't like she like blew the doors off.

It was kind of a hard fought victory for Kayla. But because I think Ketlin is so good, I'm surprised that Ketlin's maybe this close on the line because people are forgetting. But at the same time, Macy's been on a pretty good run right now. So it's good to see them meeting at this point in their careers lost the split to Rocco Pennington and obviously Kayla Harrison yeah yeah I

mean she's fought the champ and Kayla who might be the champ in a week Kellen Vieira has been outstruck in 10 consecutive fights yeah it's not the volume for her though yeah she does better damage she does better work six to four in those fights maybe she mixes in the grappling what's uh what what kind of run is Macy on what's the last few win against Meyer Bueno Silva win against Pani Kianzad Irene Aldana the the up kick to the lower yeah she was doing really well and then got up kicked to the liver Norman Dumont split decision there Norman Dumont been on a nice run though,

might have to run that one back. I guess so. Yeah, I mean the, the Myra. That's from like women's 135 baby. It's not a great division. The Myra win probably has aged worse than better, right? Like at the time that probably looked like a massive victory and now it has probably aged a little bit worse.

This is the right, This is the right fight. I think we're gonna find out who can get back to that kind of title conversation. Yeah, yeah. Looking forward to that one. Zach Reese, Dusko Todorovic. Appointment viewing. I am excited for the Alan Nascimento-Chefelfilo fight.

I think that's gonna be fun. I think there could be some fun ground exchanges there. Jordan Levitt, Kurt Halaba. Kurt Halaba's tough as nails. I think that one's gonna be fun. Could also have some fun grappling exchanges in that one. Andreas Gustafsson, Trevin Giles. Feels like rising Swedish dude with big power

against Trevin Giles who's kind of on his way out, been knocked out three times. Like- People seem high on Gustafson. People are excited about that. Yeah, like Gustafson in that one. Balaji Oky getting short notice, three days notice, Michael Aswell coming in.

And then the curtain jerker, Ray Andosandos versus Elise Ardelin, the- The TikTok star, right? TikTok star. Let's see what she's at these days on TikTok. Yeah, it's not a great card. Let's see what she's at these days on TikTok. Yeah, it's not a great card. Let's be real. I mean, let's actually just like be real.

It isn't a great card. That's okay. It's an apex card. It's tough. It is tough. Well, tough is on Tuesdays at 10 a.m. to make sure to tune in. Shit. Plugs for tough in 2025.

Alice Ardeline, 3.8 million followers on TikTok. Holy Christ. 3.8 million. 2025 Alice Ardellene three point eight million followers on tic-tac Three point five million just go make tic-tacs. What do we need to even scrap for? The tic-tacs are ridiculous. Yeah, what's the what's the content? I don't know man Half of them are just like way zoom ins of her face Okay, like making a oh she does like a funny face. All right Like making a oh she does like a funny face. All right Wow, that is a lot of the shit ton of followers a hundred seven point eight million likes

They got her as the curtain-jerk her bro She might be the biggest name on the whole card put her fight on tik-tok live and it's gonna be booming It's not a bad idea actually Oh and to in the OC split lost the Shanna Bannon Melissa Martinez unanimous decision. Should get back on track here and back on TikTok. Big underdog, plus 265. Maybe not then. Plus 265, all right, that is UFC Apex 107.

Should be a four PM start on Saturday. Let's just triple check that. 6.30 PM start on Saturday. Oh no. Let's catch triple check that. 6.30 PM start on Saturday. Oh, no. Let's catch the highlights. Oh, no. Oh, boy. Lock in.

6.30 PM, brother. Lock in. I'm going to be watching Blanchfield Barber at 12.45 AM Eastern, alone on my couch. Invite Franky over. Yeah, Frank. Sorry, man. I'm going to have to miss this one feel

like we got to though this is the thing for the day I think it's the thing forever you it finally occurred to me today this is what you always say and I'm gonna never live it down I don't know about this but uh I mean well Jordan got to go back to the tape I need to see evidence of this oh yeah early stages of Sunday morning I'm gonna be sitting on my couch by myself watching Blind Field Barber We couldn't start this one at 4 p.m early stages

Which is funny that you mentioned that because we did get a super chat Oh, okay from Jason Carney saying GC who do you got for the Nashville this week NASCAR wait So now we're not playing the song until after, and then we're being ones that could have been at the end of the show? I feel like we've got to. He's going rogue. Jason Courtney writes in, GC, who you got at Nashville

this week, NASCAR. Hey, happy birthday to Frank. Happy birthday to Frank. I think we need to restore order here. I don't know, I'm not quite sure what's happening, but I don't like it. Who do I have this weekend? I don't know. After a terrible weekend, last weekend give me Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson. Shit the bet in Indy. Shit the bet at the Coca-Cola 600. Brief story here. I went for greatness. I chased the Triple Crown, bet the winner of Monaco, Indy 500 and Coca-Cola 600 all

in the same day. Got Lando Norris for Monaco, Alex Palu plus 1100 for Indy, nailed it. Also had these in a parlay. William Byron to finish it, Coca-Cola 600 is 400 laps. He led for like 297 of them, all the way till eight laps to go and Ross Chastain passed them. It was it was a heartbreak on a level I've never seen. How many different permutations did you have? Like how many tickets were you holding for the for all three? For the parlay, just three.

Wow, just three. Wow, just three. Yeah. And two of them were in the running at the end. Two of them were in the running, yeah. Yeah, Kyle Larson who shit the bed and then William Byron to finish us off and William Byron led the entire race.

What was the, what did the third one bust on? Like. Different Indy 500 winner. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it hurt, it hurt to make it all the way there and then just come that short Come with that short. All right, that's enough. That's enough racing talk for now, but you're racing prowess is quite impressive

I'm oh, we were close boys. We were close still one money on the table. Whatever. All right, let's do parlay pals picks We got to my bets very pecs 107 and then and then we'll run it up for pound for pound and Voicemail's let's do it. All right parlay pals We have already received pizza Carol's pick. Where did you go? Gustafson hmm people high on people pick Andreas Gustafson people are high on them all throw the rest of us into a randomizer here You're working Frank you'll go first. I'll go second Rick will will go third. Love to hear it. Congratulations, man.

Thank you. Well, to start us off after a pizza spick, of course, I'm gonna go with Aaron Blanchfield, Moneyline. Okay. I was going to do Aaron and Macy over four and a half. Yeah. But I realized, you know, there's a habit forming here and I don't want that.

Yeah, allegations were starting to form that you only take the over in women's fight. So much so that you took the over in a men's fight, the Jared Gordon fight a few weeks ago, it ended in the first round. And then you were like, back to women! So, just to dispel those allegations, I am picking Aaron Blanchfield.

Money line, she's gonna get it done. Okay, all right. All right, I'm gonna take Balaji. Okay, who is fighting three-day notice Michael As well think as well is Is talented lost on contender series, but it was a very close fight very very close fight, but just short notice I think this is too much to ask I talked about it earlier. Let's go with the Dustin Jacoby money line. The Han Yak! He's gonna get it done.

Let's go, shout out. Shout out to the Han Yak. All right, let me run through mine real quick. Oh yeah, there's the graphic. Good shit Jordan, you're producing over here. The way it's set up too. We get it done, we're in the green. We get it done, we're in the green baby!

Love it. Love it. Let's get it done the green, baby Love it. Love it Let's get it done boys. Let's do it. Need it. It's already done. I'll be up at at 12 45 a.m Eastern watching Blanchfield get her hand raised Looking forward to it. All right I'm also supporting Andres Gustafson just like pizza. Yeah, I just think the power the youth is He's he's on his way in Trevin Giles on his way out. He's lost by knockout three times

I like Gustafson. That is one of the palest men I've ever seen in my entire life. Alright, so credit to him This is a Danaway contender series picture and like they like zap the saturation from them Like those beautiful bright blue gloves that typically just just pop Are they're kind of faded on this? Okay, so this is not his actual skin. No, no, no, that'd be a little bit Those for a two-head powder Next up Alan Nascimento really like him on the feet here Jafel Filo Obviously a very accomplished grappler, but Nascimento a black belt in his own right never been subbed I think he has a larger advantage on the feet and he gets it done. Next up Leavitt Haliba fight

goes to a decision I know it's kind of weird with how often Leavitt doesn't go to a decision Haliba three straight tough as nails I think the grappling counter balances out and they go all 15 in this one. Next up Ketlin De'Aire I said she's been outstruck in her last 10 fights, but she's six and four in those. I bet she probably gets outstruck here, but I think she lands the more damaging shots. I actually think she can use some clench work, use some grappling, and grind out a decision in this one. And then one parlay. I didn't think I was gonna be going with it, but

Balagioki against Shorten has noticed Michael Aswell and Aaron Blanchfield. I think she's going to be able to get the takedowns. Just looking back through the history of Macy Barber's career and her inability to stuff takedowns, I think Blanchfield is gonna go on the gas and get it done. And those are my picks for UFC Apex 107. And you saw Blanchfield there who will be taking on Macy Barber Which leads us to our pound-for-pound rankings best Haircuts in MMA Macy Barber fighting one half the co-main event this week Barber Frank you get it right best harbors give haircuts shit What's the order Frankie? I'm gonna start us off. Sick. You always do. What a shocker.

Then we're gonna tickle a little Rick. Then we're gonna finish it off with a comment. Phrasing please. Alright then I'll go last. Unfortunately for your birthday tomorrow we'll have to set up a zoom call for HR.

You know what? Tickle Fest 2025 I'm call for HR. You know what? Talk to you at 9.15 tomorrow. Sicklefest 2025, I'm here for it. All right. Kick us off. My number five. Welcome back, Frank. Is the main man himself, Andre Orlovsky.

Look at the mane on this. Oh God, that's good hair. This is a glamour shot. That's good hair. If I had hair like that, I'd be taking over the world. I wouldn't be here hosting this podcast. I'll that's good hair. This is a glamour shot. That's good hair. If I had hair like that I'd be taking over the world. I wouldn't be here hosting this podcast. I'll tell you that much. I mean if I had hair like that you would be talking to an empty chair in the control room. You have pretty good hair Frank. Frank you have good hair. Come on man. There's other features that that hold you back dressed. Wow. Wow is it my

ticklishness? What's your number four man? My number four is ronda rousey? She did this thing with the on the side of there. I mean like that takes skill it takes attention It's amazing almost a bit of an undercut. I love it. Yes, and she's kept the look alive even through the wrestling career I thought that was great. Alright. My number three is Jessie Jess herself, Jessica Rose Clark. Ah, this fan. Sporting the colored hair. Oh yeah.

Little throwback to Harlequin, I love it. I just think that she reps awesome hair. Awesome haircut. Can really see the hair there. Yeah, you know. Number two, Jorge Masvidal. Now, there are so many photos of this guy's hairstyles that are just all over the place. But again, I love the way that you take the corn rolls

and you do them up to this pattern. Oh, it's amazing. Corn rolls. Frank's a fan of the braiding, huh? Are you mad? Corn, corn. That takes effort, right? Corn rolls.

We're going to braid your hair one day. Frank is the guy who goes to Jamaican and comes back. With the corn rolls? Yeah, with the corn rolls. With the beads coming out of his hair, you know, the whole time. Don't make promises you can't keep. But my number one all time best MMA haircuts

has to go to the man himself, Dan Hooker. What? Especially, especially sporting the mohawk that has been turned into a lizard what is in general is not Dan Hooker the fuck is this what Dan Hooker that is just trust me on this that is not Dan Hooker fuck is happening right now who is that's my list who is this person what is this there may have been a mistake who was that who is that it's Dan Hooker who the fuck Dan Dan Hooker has never had hookers never just saw it together were you thinking of

Dan Hardy but that's not Dan Hardy either I know it's not Dan Hardy? But that's not Dan Hardy either. I know it's not Dan Hardy. Dan Hardy is the red mohawk. You love the Hardys, bro. Yeah, I screwed this up. But also that wasn't Dan Hardy. Yeah, it is Dan Hardy. No, that is not Dan Hardy. It is the same guy. No, no, no, no, no.

Moving on to Ticklin' Rick. I'm sending a picture of Dan Hardy. This had to have been who you were thinking of. Frank is back from vacation and somehow still mailed in his his pound Frank back from vacation with the shittiest list He's ever done. It's by far the worst Although we're gonna have some fun with this or something Frank and her's Dan Hooker lizard mohawk hair Look chat GPT. What is that? You use chat GPT for this? Can we show Dan Hardy?

This is Dan Hardy. Same guy. Same guy. I give you credit for this. You love the Hardys. I give you credit for this. But not only is the last one not Dan Hoker, it is also not Dan Hoker. How about Jordan just throwing him under the bus? Yeah, Jordan not saying anything! Jordan not saying anything! Excepting Dan Hoker and then showing that fucking shit!

Was that really an AI response? He's off mic looking for where he found this. Because it's clear, I don't even know if this is, I'm'm sweating lizard mohawk MMA and nothing is coming up Dan is like the fighter no that is not a fighter has like the most normal haircut ever regular ass dude yeah Frankie that was that was truly your shittiest work yet we have to do a pound for pound Frank's bad list. Starting with 311. 311's gonna be up there.

The 311 one was like inspired. Like there was something there. I got it. This one, oh boy. All right, let me keep this going. Please, yes. All right. Number five.

Yeah. Dan Hardy. Dan Hardy goes reptilian. in her not Dan Hardy clearly but also look you said Dan Hooker Look chat GPT is cooked All right, then Dan Hooker Hardy. All right number five Iconic known for it Like one of the the most known and notable MMA hairstyles. Dan Hook, no I'm just kidding. Chuck Liddell.

I feel like we got it. Chuck Liddell. Chuck Liddell's Mohawk. Shout out. Come on. And especially this like low Mohawk, it's not the, you mentioned Dan Hardy, it's not that high kind of crazy.

Low and wide. Wide and low. Can we show the other picture? It just looked so menacing. Oh yeah. It was iconic. The ice hawk? There were kids that were shaving their heads like this.

Oh yeah. I'd never seen people do it quite this way. The punk rock mohawk, done. He kinda did it in this unique way. Shout out to the Iceman. Iconic look. Number four. I'm a big fan of this one.

Speaking of lizards, this man calls people lizards quite a bit. Patty Pimblitt. Shout out to number four. The mop top hair. If you can sell wigs of your hairstyle, that's it. The wig was what put this over for me. People wanting to wear your hairstyle is incredible. The contrast of how kind of like aggressive he is as a fighter contrasted with this like looking like a goober hairstyle is crazy. I think it was definitely part of why he became so popular. Great marketing, great branding.

Shout out to Patty Pimblitt who has had more contemporary and like traditional hairstyles as well. But this is, I think the best look for Patty Pimblitt, who has had more contemporary and traditional hairstyles as well, but this is, I think, the best look for Patti Pimblitt. Braids well. It always looks good with the braids as well. Except when Volkov does it and looks like a beefed up Patti Pimblitt. It's the Pokemon Evolved version of Patti Pimblitt.

Number three, the cut is not as important in this one as the styling. Okay. Blonde Charles Olivera. Shout out. Shout out to the goat. One of the craziest transformations, it started with the Kevin Lee fight

where he used to always have black hair and then all of a sudden he's going bleach blonde and everybody's like, what the fuck happened to Charles Olivera? The shade started coming out more and the man just completely changed his career but the aura of blonde Charles is unmatched. He doesn't become champion if if he doesn't go blonde. The light of God is shining on Charles Oliveira. Okay number two you know you cut there's different ways to cut hair you know you can cut the

hair on your head you can also can also cut the hair on your head. You can also cut the hair on your chest. And my man Brian Ebersole sported the Harrow. And if you haven't seen it, I bet you're not familiar with this. I don't think I've ever seen this. This is how this gentleman walked. Oh, that is bad! That is how that gentleman walked. Oh, that is terrible. And he explained it as such was, here's my face, punch me in it. Look at how thick that hair is. He was a very hairy man. I couldn't imagine what it looked like before he shaved.

That is a repulsive level of hair. It is exactly what you'd imagine. He had an extremely hairy chest. You don't see hairy bodies too much in the UFC. Yeah, you're right. Actually, these days you really don't. There was a famous fight where there was a guy named Dennis Hallman who was wearing a,

like a, what's it called? The fucking Speedo. Yeah. And he came in and beat him and Dana White gave him a bonus for getting him out of there. But also he was like a ridiculous character as well. It was a great thing. But the Harrow, shout out to Brian Ebersole,

legend of the game and that Harrow was incredible. Number one, I'm not even picking a specific hair. I am picking a specific person who has sported every hairstyle under the sun, Heath Haring. Heath Haring, another one you might not be familiar with but from back in the day has sported The craziest diverse amount of looks that you ever see. That one on the right is horrendous. Yeah, let's go to the other one There's this is not it by the way. There's more. He's got delightful hair when he lets it grow The red the red is so bad. Oh

The spiky one is also terrible. Inverse mohawk, please. Just an incredible array of different hairstyles that have been worn by this man. Shout out to him. I mean, he's letting it rip. He's letting it rip. I love playing with it.

I like the idea of just being like, there's the Charles route, there's the, this is my look now, and then there's the Heath look where it's like, yeah I'ma fuck around and just do whatever the fuck I want that time. It's like every time Cheeto comes on the show. Yeah, exactly, Cheeto looks completely different each time.

All right, I actually love that list. Shout out, thank you. I appreciate that list, and I don't have any of the five same as you. I'm a little surprised you don't have Charles, I thought for sure you'd have Charles. I actually thought you would go Kevin Randleman if you were gonna go blonde. Randleman's a good one. That's an iconic one.

Alright, number five. This one, not many people are gonna be familiar with it. It's just one that I've always loved. It's definitely not as popular as some of the other ones, but for me it's just the small details. The tarantula, Jalen Turner. Oh! Shaving the spiderweb into the side of his head. Oh, that is very good. Love that one. I think that's fantastic. And I think this was his fight before Brad Riddell. You got the spider web in the hair, you go out there and you choke him out in like 58 seconds.

That shit's sick. Shout out to Jalen Turner. Number four, legend, samurai, icon. You get the slash slash on the Instagram. He's essentially made his own emoji for it. Let's go for that. The Yuri top knot. Let's go for that.

Absolute legend there. I mean, look at that. That is iconic. That is iconic right there. Won the belt when he had the top knot. I actually like this one more where he's got like the hair kind of slicked back and then just like the knot sticking out.

That's like proper Yuri right there. We need this Yuri to go on a championship run and get the belt back. Number three, this one not so much a style but just complete ownership of the hair. May he rest in peace. Elias Theodoro. Oh, that's fast hair. Unbelievable hair on this man. So this is it braided. The braids look

tremendous. It braids well, but let's let the flow go. Oh my god, if I had this hair, people, I'd be taking over the world. How about the Pert Sponsorship? Shout out. Look at this. Who is this? Yeah. Is this guy a model for L'Oreal? No, Pert. It's Dan Hooker. For head and shoulders shampoo? Literally Pert. Pert is a shampoo? Yes.

Fuck it. Literally a shampoo company. Got a shampoo sponsorship, his hair was that good. Incredible hair. Hair is unbelievable. This and the Arlovski are like, not the cut, but the, oh my God, what a head of hair on these guys. It's just like, oh my God, what a head of hair.

At that age too, it's a thing of beauty. Which brings me to number two, you just said it, young Andrei Arlovski. Wow, both had Arlovski, I love it. The hair is simply like, look at that hair. Yeah, holy shit. The chest hair going as well. I mean, it's just fantastic.

Like, it looks incredible. Let's go to the next one. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, look at that. I meant next picture. We gotta go through all the Arlovski. This is just, this picture is like the next one. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, look at that. I meant next picture. We gotta go through all the other last few. This is just, this picture is like the blowout. How did he even accomplish this? This is the thing of beauty, the highlights.

Are we highlighting or is that natural? Definitely highlighting. Super handsome man, the fang mouthpiece. He had it at that time. He was just incredible. Look at this. The physique. Fucking hell.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it was sun in and not highlights. Oh, you're saying he chilled out in the sun and it kind of lightened up. You don't know what sun in is? No, what's sun in? Stop, are you guys serious? I don't have hair.

Frank would know. You would put it on and then go out to the beach or the pool, whatever, be in the sun and it would add highlights to your hair. Amazing, but it's not hair dye. Why was chemical? Why would anybody do the real dye instead of that? That sounds better Sun and I word every summer It was fun because when you went out it just got brighter. Yeah Bella, we're seeing the dye in your hair. I guess what what is it? Is it a form of dye? How does it work? I think it just naturally bleached, right Frankie?

Something like that? Yeah. All right, shout out Sun Inn. Also shout out to Sun Tea. What is that? It's a tea that you brewed outside in the sun. All right. Same difference.

Yeah. Shout out to young Andre Ilovsky. Belarusian stud. Stud. Unbelievable, 42 fights in the UFC. He's actually fighting on- Talking about no Harry. That guy was pretty Harry. Yeah, fights on BKFC in a couple of He's actually talking about no Harry. That guy was pretty hairy

Uh, yeah fights on uh, bkfc in a couple weeks. Shut up number one. Oh big country, oh man ten wins my first round knockout and One of the best mullets you'll ever see Roy Nelson's mullet gets my number one. Look at this side profile That's a tremendous mullet right there That's my number one, look at this. Side profile, that's a tremendous mullet right there. Absolutely tremendous. The beard mullet combo for him was unmatched. Unmatched, look at that.

That's a guy I wanna drink a few beers with, throw a dip in and just talk about life with. Yeah, watch some NASCAR. I bet he's gonna be watching Nashville this weekend. I bet he knows my pain from the Coca-Cola 600. I bet he does. Incredible combo, the beard hair of Roy Nelson. There's been some great mullets.

Mike Pyle used to rock a really nice mullet. Mullets have been more of like the jokey option in MMA, but then there's been some like good ones. Actually, I have some pictures. Let me do some honorable mentions. Number one, formerly Dan Hooker, now known as Dan Hardy. Actually, there was a little mistake here. What actually I picked as my number one didn't make it in cut time, but here's the best MMA haircut of all time.

Oh, shit. Got him. Fuck, that actually is pretty good. What is this, 2022 Paulo Costa giving you a haircut? We've had some ridiculous times. I like how some crazy times. The reason that Paulo has his shirt off, I had to tape a microphone to his chest and then he was so sweaty that it came off. Oh, it was a whole mess.

But that haircut and the look on Rick's face. Oh yeah. Did I really agree to do this? This was a ridiculous, ridiculous day. Yeah, that was the end of the man bun era. I can't believe I didn't have that as my number one. Yeah, that should have been your name I mean obviously on air Jordan gave that to him after the fact certainly Can you go back to your honorable mentions? Yes, honorable mentions Dan Hardy incredible mohawk There's been a few different variations of it Not the lizard one, but there are like this one with the red is crazy red like he always had like such a

Defined red but there's also like this red and black a little lighter Not as like a vibrant but like the length of his mohawk was always quite impressive as well He did the thin but long Another one I had to have Yuri on my list. Oh, yeah, and also as you said, there's like different variations You know all this like the ponytail kind of one. This might have been the the title fight on my list. Oh yeah. And also as you said, there's like different variations, you know? All time. There's this like the ponytail kind of one. This might have been the title fight against Glover.

This one where it was like hanging out. Oh yeah. Incredible looks. Sean O'Malley deserves a shout here. For sure. Another one who switches it up. I mentioned like a Mohawk style. We're doing the Afro first.

I mean the fro is amazing. The fro's are incredible. The pink and blue fro is incredible. The rainbow fro is always looking good, but the mohawk here, like the braids on the side, sorry, the mullet, I kept saying the mohawk. The mullet look with the braids. With the insane hair, with the Michael Jackson thriller.

He's got the look. Oh yeah, he's got the swag for sure. Davidson figurino. Oh yeah, yeah, that almost made my list as well. The dice thing era? Iconic at this point. Oh yeah, he's got the swag for sure. Davis and Figuerito. Oh, yeah, yeah. That almost made my list as well. The Dice thing era? Iconic at this point. Oh, yeah, with the red strip. He had it for all the title fights.

It's legit. We love it. Definitely have to shout out Diego Lopez. Definitely have to give an honor to the Fall Out Boy haircut. Speaking of Fall Out Boy, Mullet too? Mullet too. Mullet. But the one from the press conference against,

was it Valk? No, it was not against Valk. It was like, maybe the mob star when he debuted. This one with the hair over the eyes is the legendary look. And then last one, shout out to an OG, talked about Bleach Blonde. Randleman for sure, but the name that I think of, there's Tito Ortiz, but he's in a separate category

because he was kind of bald and almost blended. Josh Koscheck. Josh Koscheck is my blonde hair icon. He's the one that I remember when I think about blonde hair from that era. Insanely white blonde hair, but also the curls to it, and it would always stick out the sides, it's almost Krusty the Clown-esque.

Yes, the curls look ridiculous with like his hairline and like how curly it is. Shout out to Josh Koschak, a legend. Shout out, man. There's some good haircuts out there. Heath Haring though, like that man did them all. Gillian Robertson, the red. Oh, the red, for sure.

Same as Sam Hardy? Canadian, also wrestler quiet storm just random Marcos random mark and a mark used to also do the the red hair all right that's the list that was a fun one I like going back through those Macy barber half of the co-main haircutting and barber haircuts oh he updated the graphic oh and right we won't forget Frank you can't scrub that. Dan Hooker. All time. 311, Dan Hooker, two worst things. And I have to say on the when you look at the rankings thing my head is fucking massive compared to you. It's the ego. We need to shrink my down a little bit.

You're not you're not humbling yourself enough. You need to shrink my down a little bit. We need to make mine just a little bit smaller it looks a little bit crazy. All right, Frank We got any voicemails brother voicemails. I will say I did miss that. Oh, yeah. Oh Jordan you did great Jordan you try you definitely tried just doesn't hit the same. Oh, did he do it? I Missed it. He tried. Yeah, we know you didn't watch you didn't send us the code word. Thanks for watching Jericho from Ohio. So Jericho had a couple quick questions reached out to you guys a couple months ago I'm asked you see if you wanted to come watch Chase and status and the two I believe he said yes on video so I'm just making sure that he has a ticket

for this weekend I cannot do the Magic's gathering online let me send you some cards okay well game I need to see the eyes and I cast counter spell and you know this effort to save your life thanks have a good week Jericho also DM'd me sounds like it sounds like you made some plans but maybe some some cross wires there like didn't stop didn't come to fruition there's absolutely no chance of me having committed to chasing status in Detroit did he say no just this weekend I don't think he said Detroit there's there's next to no chance from Ohio he's from Ohio okay next to no chance I committed to but a Jericho

DM me he was heartbroken that you weren't able to meet it he was he not how wanting on Frank you committed to it There's no way I committed to anything through a DM. But we have some video from his trip. Oh sick. Going to Chasen State. This is in New York? I don't think so. I think, Frank looked it up, I believe they were overseas at the time. This is just no fucking way I committed to it. For those at home, just imagine Shy FX original Nuttite playing right now. Yeah, there was music, we don't want to get. Oh, there was Yeah, that helps everything Frank. Yeah, it's all clear now I'll also have a picture of Jericho and the boys Wow It could have been a G this could have been you G. I wish I was there that looks that looks like a hell of a time

This could have been a loose is that the arch behind them? No, it is an arch, but I don't know if this is a little It's a baby arch Jericho. Tell us where this was were they in were they in Ohio? We tried to look up their past tour dates but it was right before showtime and we couldn't get it together but shout out to Jericho and GC you gotta you gotta follow through. I mean that's insanity there's no like zero chance. Go ahead. Well the boys in the back Brandon from Indianapolis. What's up, Brandon? Shout out. Shout out. Go Pace. Just wanted to call and say what's up. Thanks, man. Big fan of GC and Ritt.

Ritt, you're doing your thing. Gal game for life, baby. I just think it's about time that we discuss replacing Frank in this top five list. I just think you've been missing a lot lately. By lately, I mean, basically every single time. This week doesn't help your case. So maybe it's time we throw somebody else in there. Yeah.

What about T.C. or somebody like that? I feel like we got him. Shout out. Shout out, brother. Yeah, I mean, your list this week isn't helping anything. Yeah, I feel horrible. No, Frank is. Frank is one third of the boys in the back.

Hey, boys, this is Sam calling in from Washington DC. Oh shit 317 the failure to poor yet goes out there and knocks out Charles Olivera and the first two rounds where does that place Ilia and the power point pound for pound rankings and where does that put Ilia's legacy maybe and where does that put Ilya's legacy maybe in the top lightweights of all time or just top fighters of all time? Does that put him in the top 15 top 10 automatically? Alright thank you boys have a good one. Appreciate the call brother. Pound for pound. Pound for pound I already have him too. I'll keep him too if he gets the win there and then in terms of legacy at that point now he's a

he's a two-division champion, he'll be undefeated with wins over Volkanovsky, Olivera, Holloway, the resume will really begin to build. In terms of the pantheon of greats, it's still TBD. We gotta see where it goes from there, but he's in the conversation of becoming one. I don't have him jumping Islam with a win, but I have him too also.

So it's like he's as clear a number two as you got. And if Islam should falter, he's number one, no doubt, with a win over Charles. I don't think the conversation becomes about one of the greatest lightweights of all time. For me, the conversation becomes is Vol Volk Holloway Charles the best three fights anybody's ever won in a row? Because that is nasty work.

If he finishes him, If he finishes Charles, we're gonna have a serious conversation of like three fight runs. That's a ridiculous run. Ridiculous. And to become champion, defend the 145 belt, and then become the 155 champion.

In three fights. Not just who he's facing, but what he's doing while he's facing them. Yeah. If he finishes Charles Olivera, holy shit. Yeah. What's up boys in the back? What's up bro? This is Matt The Mailman. Let's go. Let's go. Calling, seeing when we can get some boys in the back merch. We're actually talking about that today. I Daniel, thanks, King of Hearts. Lastly, Frank, welcome back from vacation. Hope you had a great time. I did, man, thank you. That's the last one you're gonna get, buddy.

It's time to learn Chinese. Did he say it's time to start learning Chinese? That was an incredible call. Shout out to the mailman, Go Knowles Tallahassee. He's become a regular caller, and those are fantastic. Learning Chinese, Rick is doing such. I am learning Chinese. We've now become very competitive on Duolingo. Me and Jordan learning Spanish to try and keep up with Andy and then Rick learning Chinese. Frank refusing to learn any second language, uh,

just showing his closed-mindedness. Who, me? So maybe download Duolingo and start learning Chinese there. BITB merch? BITB merch, we were actually talking about that because when we show the lower third, come on. The merch is right there. Come on Jordan. Ariel, New York, DCN, Mr. Boys in the Back are right there, this is it. He shows the lower third and it's like, get your Ariel Hohanian Boys in the Back merch on ArielHohanian.com. This is the merch, is this not merch? That is not Boys in the Back merch on ArielHoani.com. This is the merch, is this not merch?

That is not Boys in the Back merch. Are you guys the Boys in the Back? But by the way. That is uncrowned, Ariel's on there. This is also available at. He's a boy in the back when he comes in. Shop, ArielHoaniShop.com? No, Shop.

ArielHoaniShop.com. It's just ArielHoani.com. Yeah, ArielHoani.com. Seriously, Dan Hardy? Kev the Clang. Dan Hooker. I have an idea for merch. Yeah, I have an idea. What if we did these three heads? Yeah, this is more this is more properly sized. This one right? Like the colorized versions? I think I think I think there's several things that you can do here. I think just a

shirt with our three heads on it like embroidered across it would be great. What if it was each of us had a shirt? Yeah, I'm sure I have a shirt Frank has a shirt of this and then they sell and it's like Rick on the back Or what if we each designed a shirt and then we had a competition to see who could sell the most Oh I think one that just said shout out and then like be out out on the great Embroidered shout out and then no I see you on the back be a TV on the back It's gonna be one of his lists you get to pick one of Frank's out for Patlis Embroidered shout out and then no I see you on the back Honestly, I think just the logo would play pretty nice. Yeah, I think I think we can cook something up I think we cook something up eventually what work on it will work on it the landlord situation has been

Resolved oh it is done and is in the past. Will I be resigning with the place? Absolutely not. Is anyone intimidating you to say that? There's no intimidation. All right. I've moved on. It's been a stressful time but we've moved on. Sorry to hear about that. No no no it's okay it's okay. It's been resolved and I will not be resigning with this. Yeah I was about to argue with them. Absolutely not. No no or any of the properties that the Giant corporation that owns them this sounds like an open wound Giant corporation if anybody wants to research the biggest apartment

Country you could probably figure out who owns it, but you know giant corporation shout out to them Boys change South Jersey, What's up Jamie? I proposed to the lady. She said yes. Yes! All good there. Jamie! All right Jamie.

She is gonna call into the show, but she doesn't think you guys are fucking average, cause guess what? I'm fucking average too boys. It's all good. She likes average dudes. We're in there. Everything's all greaty.

Average is the new great, Jamie. I just wanna say thank you guys for the shout out. You guys are the best. Jamie! I like to think I was personally responsible for this. Shout out to you, Jamie. Frank's love list, I think, influenced it. Yeah.

Shout out to Jamie. It surely wasn't the buckets. No, that's maintaining a healthy relationship. You don't know about that, it's okay. We'll talk offline. Shout out to Jamie. Congratulations, man. Very happy for you. What's up, boys in the back? This is Lucas Kong from Calgary, Canada. Shout out to Emma Zoom Frank, GC The Georgia Dog, On Air Jordan, and our favorite Athena Andy, along to the legendary Rohan. Rohan?

You're the only one who appreciates the greatest trilogy in movies. New Yorker, though, I wanted to give you a special shout out for putting me on to the challenge. I started in the MMA Hour days, per your recommendation. Went back a few seasons, starting a double agent and have fully caught up now, but I made sure to go back through those historic moments like Banana's backpack and others. Question for you ahead of show, a friend of the show Ben Bane Davis making his debut. Firstly, after finishing Battle of the Eras and seeing each era having an iconic Mount Rushmore type champ, you know CT era one, Bananas era two, and the Goat Jordan from era three, who do you think of the newer players do you see possibly like making it up there? I thought for a while is gonna be like Horacio

But it seems he's done with this show Second question. How do you think our own GC would do on the show? You can tell you super friendly with everyone so he would have good social game But he's also an absolute unit and physical specimen who else can say that Sean Brady's out there ducking them Sean Brady gets your ass to New York. Thanks all, love the show. We're gonna find out. What a call. First of all, what a call. That was very eloquent and to the point, no stammering, no us. He had it. He just kept it rolling.

Next week, Jersey event, Sean Brady said maybe I'll be in town. We'll see. We'll see what happens there. We'll see, man. I'm not gonna lie, I feel like Tom, I've sort of given up on it. I've moved over to the rowing machine at the gym, I've started running more. Were you encouraged at all by Pfeiffer being like, oh, Brady will do it. I've moved over to the rowing machine at the gym. I've started running more.

Were you encouraged at all by Piper being like, oh Brady will do it. I just gotta come to the gym? I'm not coming to him. I'm the champ. And I mean, this is the battleground. This is where it happens. We'll see.

Piper being like, ah, get on any old bike. It's like, no, no, it's gonna need to be an Averon. That is what we compete on. Yeah. Challenge one, I was with you on Horacio, probably not anymore. Kylind, I think is the one. Kylind is the one I have my eye on.

But let's be real, Ben the Bane Davis. I think that, I think that guy can go far. I think he'll win the whole thing. I think he'll be a, I think he'll be a challenger for years to come. As far as GC goes, I mean, come on, you talked about it. The guy's a unit. The guy's got the physical fitness to do it.

He'd be entertaining people the whole time. He'd be the life of the party. I think he'd be fantastic. All right, so A, I very much appreciate it. B, it doesn't matter. I actually wanna see how far Ben the Bane Davis is going. Oh, he's going. I think it's going to be hilarious.

And C, the glowing review that that guy just gave, how much you love it, I am actually getting very excited for my first season of The Challenger. I have no idea how it would work because I don't know jack shit about it Never seen an episode before in my life But I'm gonna watch every single week because I've been the band hundred percent and that's the best endorsement for When a Murray and the people that produce the show to be like yeah guys like Ben the Bane Davis and other Challengers who are gonna be debuting do bring in their own audiences.

Bane is now bringing people to this show that had a cast of characters that people didn't know about. Shout out to Ben the Bane. Can't wait to see him. Love the challenge, love Bane. I can't wait. This is gonna be incredible. What's up, boys?

Jim here. Love the show. Great shows this week. But gotta say, it was missing some of the charm without Frankie with the drop. So glad to have you back this week, Frankie. We love you. Question this week is with Sean O'Malley's title fight coming up, what do you guys think it would take for Sean O'Malley to get taken seriously by the fans? I feel like he

could knock Maraud out unconscious and people would still find a way to discredit him. This goes for guys like Patty the Batty, you know guys like that that just have Bo' Nickel, guys that it seems like the fans just want to see him fail. At what point are the fans gonna actually root for Shawn? I mean, obviously he has a huge contingent, but when is the general MMA consensus gonna give him some love? All right, guys, love you, bye. Yeah, so he's sort of referring to Patty Pamela Bo'nickle,

guys that are getting pushed by the UFC. Or people that they call overrated. Yeah, sort of overrated, just kind of like, oh, they're gonna get fraud-checked, everything like that. I think sort of overrated, just kind of like, oh, they're going to get fraud checked, everything like that. I think you can't do, you can't say anything against Sean O'Malley at this point. He was a champion.

He was a UFC champion who got a title defense. What do you mean take him seriously at this point? If he ices Marab, like he said though, I don't think there's anybody doubting him anymore. There's no naysayers at that point. Now he's starting to build a resume of like, dude, this guy is one of the elite bantamweights that we've seen.

If he has set up quite a narrative here of, look, I was not 100% heading into that fight, and I think people believe him, right? This guy immediately went into surgery after that and has been doing the recovery since. If he comes back and ices Marab, a lot of people are gonna look at it and be like, yeah, he wasn't 100%.

If he was, he would have knocked out Marab then too. I think the thing would, the narrative would completely change if he's able to do it in that fashion against Marab. Even if he wins a decision against Marab, I think people are looking at Marab as like, who's gonna stop this guy? I know I am. If O'Malley can do it, I don't think there's any doubters

anywhere at that point. Yeah, and he does have a massive, massive fan base. Yeah. I understand though, there are Sean O'Malley doubters, right? Of course. It was, Marab was always gonna be the guy that comes and beats him. That's what people's expectation were.

And then Marab did, and that's the problem. But I don't think that if he beats Marab, I think those people disappear nearly immediately. Oh yeah. There's nothing you can say at that point. There's nothing you can say at that point. What's up, boys in the back? Very much excited to be leaving this voicemail here. My name is Anthony. I'm calling in from Chicago, Illinois. My question is right for you. So my wife and I were expecting our first child this July, July 25th to be exact. So just simply put man, what advice

can you share for you know first-time parents? What did you wish that you knew heading into you know the birth of your first child that you think would be helpful for us to be mindful of? Thanks boys in the back. Talk to you soon. Congratulations. Alright so there's these buckets. No, my actual advice is don't put pressure on yourself. Don't put pressure on yourself to be perfect. Don't have expectations of like, this is the right way to do this. This is the right way to do this. I read in the book that you're supposed to do this, and this is what everybody's telling me. So listen to advice from people that you trust, certainly. You're already doing it, or you're asking what I would do. My advice is to follow your own kind of like instincts

on this, ultimately if your heart is in the right place, you're gonna be trying to raise that child as best as you possibly can, and you don't have to worry so much about like, the book says that I have to put them down by this time, if the kid wants to nap at this time, go with that, trust your instincts, do your best for them, and don't worry so much about like sticking to this formulation or this plan that has been laid out by parents

before you. Here and there, take some advice from people, but ultimately you're going to know what's best. You're in it, you're going to understand it, and you'll have the child's best interest in heart. And congratulations. Exciting time. Hey, what's up, boys in the back? This is Saleh coming at you from Maui, Hawaii. Oh, shit. Here with my fiancee, and she absolutely despises when I listen to podcasts. That's a big thing I've had to change when she's moved in. I used to listen to podcasts 24-7, wake up, podcasts, go to sleep, podcasts, make a shit podcast. Now, can't really do that around her.

She doesn't like them. That being said, I sent her off to the spa today. So, she's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now.

She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a week now. She's been in the hospital for a shit, podcast. Now, can't really do that around her.

She doesn't like them. That being said, I sent her off to the spa today. So I got the whole day listening to all the boys in the back in aerial episodes. So really enjoying those. My question for you guys is, do you could only ever take super cold showers or scorching hot showers for the rest of your life?

Which one would you do? Of course, I would, I think super cold. But yeah, also a Chicago resident, so I cannot wait for USC Chicago. I'm going to drop so much money on my tickets and so much money on my parlay that if I lose, I don't know what I will do. Hope to see you guys there and love the program. Talk to you guys later, see ya. Shout out.

Joy Hawaii. Joy Hawaii. Might be your last trip after that Chicago event. Don't listen to our dumbasses. Go enjoy Hawaii, my brother. Scorching hot showers only or freezing cold showers? I feel like I'm going scorching hot. Scorching hot all the way.

No way I'm getting in a cold shower during a New York winter. There is few things better than you get home from a long day in New York and it's like 18 degrees out and you get in the shower to like de-thaw. How hot though? Am I like getting like actually burned? Scorching.

Is it like painful? I mean, as opposed to so cold that you, your heart might stop beating., they're like you hate it Yeah, I'm going hot, but I I reserved the right to change if it's like no harmful. It's a binary I'm going on watching hot ice cold. I'm going hot hot hot hot Boys in the back got a question for you once everything plays out and they make a movie on John Jones and his legacy one How does the movie end and to what actors play John Jones? Dana White

Daniel Cormier and Tommy Espinal Shout-out ice coffee and shrimp cocktail. Hell. Yeah shout-out ice coffee and shrimp cocktails I feel like the fans miss Frank a A lot of love for Frank today. I mean, one guy wanted him off the list, but then missed the drops, iced coffee, shrimp cocktail. I think you're the only one that didn't miss me, Rick. Okay. I missed you, what are you saying?

I said it! Who plays who? Who plays John? How does it end? It ends with him spin kicking Stipe Miocic and they overlay an actor, John Anik, and he's like, John Jones beats the greatest heavyweight of all time.

And it fades to black and it's like the Bone story or something like that. That's the scene. No, it's with him doing the running man into the pool. And then it has freeze frame and then it has the captions like, John Jones went on to start his diving career. That's where the credits are going and then that videos on the side. And it's like him doing the Running Man, that Elon Musk ass sense of humor with the with like the Peaky Blinders hat on running in. Like I still can't believe that that's our heavyweight champion of the world

But he does that and then yeah, it's like boom. They don't go to the like He may or may not decide to fight. They don't go to that is speaking of which by the way, I think in like 10 years Okay. So yeah, I guess you do Does this change your mind any speaking of John Jones?, we had footage of John Jones speaking to Vic Blends, the barber, who has a show where he interviews people. John said this about his fighting future, this just released, and no we're gonna read it. Oh, he says, I don't know what life holds as far as fighting. I have a lot more options than a lot of other fighters as far as the ability to leave and return.

So that makes it seem like he might go away, but he isn't closing the door forever. Does that change your mind? Do you think that we see John again on the basis of this recent comment? I don't know. I just don't know. I don't know what's going to happen.

Pizzi seemed very confident. Fucking hell, I really have no idea. That John will go away, but then the ego will bring him back when he sees people lavishing Tom with praise that he will return. I don't know if I, I think the times now, if I'm being honest,

I think you get Tom now or never because Tom's only gonna get better. I don't know if we see John again. I think John goes and does other stuff Okay, who plays who in the in the bio? All right, so Michael Jai White plays as John Jones It's a good one, but he might be too old by then. No, come on. You gotta know too old Michael Jai White Dude, it's not a bad shout. I can't lie. That's also he's also too buff by the way. That's not a measure No, no, no, hope it'll be buff for the light heavyweight run and then he'll put on a little flap for the heavyweight.

It's 57 right now. I'm thinking JK Simmons for Dana White. Hell yes. That's great. Or one of the scars for... I'm thinking Ving Roms for DC. Ving Rames for DC? Robert Downey Jr. for... Robert Downey Jr. Here's the problem guys. Ving Rhames for DC yeah Robert Downey jr. For Robert Downey jr. Here's the problem guys Ving Rhames is 66 years old okay are you my just Michael Jai White is 57 years old are we doing like John and DC in the retirement home where are we doing yeah there that's an old photo shout out to my wife wow you know who would be a good John Jones? Did you see Rebel Ridge? I didn't. The main actor Aaron Pierre. Okay.

Right, like long frame, great actor. Yeah, he would be a good John Jones. Is he a little too light skinned? I mean, you know, you gotta fudge it a little bit. I'll take a light skinned guy over a 75 year old guy. That's my position right now. I'm take a light-skinned guy over a 75 year old guy. That's that's that's my position I'm thinking Jeremy Allen white for Tom Aspinall. Oh boy. We're talking in terms of size. It's gonna be a real problem We we got camera ready quaid for

Fuck get the fuck out of here with this shit. No, you're picking intentionally old guys Shane Gillis for Fantastic yeah, that is fantastic. No, this is this is good Hollywood thing and get like Jake Gyllenhaal to play as Tommy No The best part of this is Shane Gillis is gonna go on one of those crazy like workout routine Regimen and diets and he's gonna be Jack and it's gonna be the thing that transforms shame Gillis John is Dana White playing Tom Aspinal who John Goodman

Get the fuck out of here with this John Goodman is Dana White You're you're you gotta be good actors That's the you're you're not you're like all you need is someone to look like someone like these are actors And they gotta look like them and also be young enough to represent them enough CGI all this shit. Come on I think it's a great idea Frank if Jake Gyllenhaal could be the prince of Persia Then we've got John could been as Dana White. Did he pull it off? Do we have the Shane Gillis? Thank you. This is a good one Shane Gillis. I sent I sent I sent Jordan something on slack

You and McGregor as Tommy Aspinall Dana White no Dan Dana White McKellroy who's this right now now I know you're fucking around Andre Agassi is Dana White yeah Andre Agassi is Dana White that's my final vote Andre Agassi Kevin Hart is John Jones says Hotel Pool it could be it could be fun to do a whole casting should we do that should we do that as a

Yeah, that should be a segment all right. Let's do a segment on there. We go Norris says Dana white no okay, actually no way that ain't bad actually that ain't bad What's the other guy from the shield Michael chickless yeah? Dean Norris that's not bad chick listen and Dean Norris is Dean Norris does the when Dean Norris does the RAINING! I think I'll do it really well. Turning red? Yeah I think I'll do it. Alright actually Dean Norris is pretty good good job Jordan Vincent Donorfeo as Dana. The guy from Kingpin right? As Dana? I'm on order, yeah. Alex Odom says hang from banking bad as Dana, yeah.

Very decorated actor. That's actually a good one. Dear double, yeah. Damn, Frank's, Colin Avery in the chat says, Frank's is the goat of taking jokes way too far. Frank says John Goodman? John Goodman as what? We got it.

What'd you say, Jordan? John Goodman is who? I don't even remember. Alright, just play the next voice man. Yeah, let's do it. What's up boys? Matt calling in from San Diego, watching Pacers-Nicks game right now.

Sick. Question for you guys. You guys actually whipped the Knicks to lose so Ariel gets mad live on the air? I know I can't be the only one who thinks it's funny. No. No, just because he's not getting mad live on the air? I know I can't be the only one to think it's funny. No. No, just because he's not getting mad live on the air. If we had a stream of him watching it, maybe,

but no, he has time to decompress and figure everything out by the time he gets there. Also, the, Ariel's obsession with his teams has surpassed a, like, entertainment. Yeah, like, there isn't isn't like a version of this that I like the outcome of. I want him to see a championship and be happy and not be miserable.

Do we think one will be enough? Do we think that'll surprise for him? Knicks, yes. If the Knicks win a title, yeah, we're good. We're good for a long time on that one. Bills will be pretty magical, but Knicks is, Knicks will take him. Bills will be pretty magical, but Nix is. Nix will take them.

What's up, boys? Davis. Got a lot of MMA talk. Next week, PSL 2025 World Tournament Semi-finals in Nashville, Tennessee. Jason, the ass-kicking machine Jackson faces Fad James. Fad is undefeated, absolute Fad. But the bigger news is we have signed and replacing J.J. Wilson facing Godsy Rabadonov in the June 20th main event MMA prospect rookie of the year Kevin Lee has joined the PFL. Godsy is on an 11-fight win streak, a three-fight KO streak, and Kevin Lee is joining the world

tournament. He's about to mix things up. Interest Bank Arena in Wichita, Kansas. Excuse me, Wichita, Kansas. Frank. You didn't make it through it. Xbox, apparently, is finally set to get PlayStation exclusives by being available on the Steam marketplace.

She's got no excuse, buddy. We got a game sometimes. It might be cross platform, whatever it will take. Oh, and as far as gaming news, Rick, MTG Arena, real fun. Real fun. Agree. Like Jordan said last week, a little bit too fun. The wife put the kibosh to that

Started ignoring her started being rude. I haven't gotten through the tutorial yet, but that was the end of that anyway struggle I'm my own man And once a month definitely gonna check in on that anyone who wants to play add me real Don Davis again. That's real Don Davis Love to see you on there sometime Rick and anyone else who wants to help me get this last guy on the tutorial. Take it away. Great to talk to you. See you next time. Double D knows ball.

Shout out to Don Davis, man. Rookie of the Year, Kevin Lee. That had me dying. Rookie of the Year, MMA prospect Kevin Lee, fighting in Wichita, Kansas and him breaking up during the the Wichita, Kansas part was had me dying shout out to Frank do you is that true the that Xbox? I mean a PlayStation exclusives can now be played on an Xbox through steam the other way around Xbox has now released their games okay multi-platform it. I have an Xbox on what I was like

Oh, can I play last of us maybe you and Don Davis should play some Sea of Thieves? What is that? You know to get it to it right now, but it's like a pirate alright talk to you Yeah, talk to me offline. I thought I was gonna get to play last of us, and now I'm realizing I'm not because it's the reverse But yeah, I'll play some MTG with you the other the other part that Was absolutely incredible about that is that this Don Davis is like the best promoter PFL has. Oh yeah. He's breaking down the whole thing. Oh yeah.

Thad Gene's fighting next. I can't wait for the Thad Gene fight. Shout out to Donnie B for calling in. Boys in the back, this is Eric from northern Wisconsin. Shut up. Got a few true or false questions for you. Okay. True or false, if Sean O'Malley loses to Marab again, this will be his last fight at 135 pounds. True. Number two, Tom Aspinall will break Stipe's heavyweight record of three undisputed title defenses by the time he retires. And three, Sean Brady will continue to dog GC until Connor moves up onto the next number

one contender, maybe another welterweight who has enough cojones like Ian Geary or Shavkat. Just kidding, Brady. Love you, brother. No, you don't. Go, Peg. Go. True.

See you. That is true. I'm going to say false. I think we get the showdown. I think we get the showdown. I've lost all faith. but we're both true on O'Malley who's probably done at 35 if he loses and Tom will break the record for title defense. Yeah, just with O'Malley's size, obviously He's not gonna become the champion while Murab is still there. 145 makes sense. There's so many good fights for him at 45

Yeah, I think he gets there Hello first time caller. My name is Samwise Gamgee from Hobbiton in the Shire. I just had to say, fuck you New York Rick. I didn't walk the fucking ring all the way to Mordor for you to talk shit. Well now Mr. Rick, I'm sorry for cursing and I can't rightly say I understand it, but I suppose every soul has its own journey. It's about holding on, even when the night's darkest. About friendship and courage and choosing what's right, even when there's no promise you'll make it out alive.

You don't have to be from the Shire to feel that's in your bones, sir. Just takes a little bit of heart. And I believe even a fellow from New York might even have a bit of that tucked away somewhere. Also shout out to GC, Bandy, mysterious Frank, Honor Jordan, and my main man, Pete C. Peace out. Man, shout out to Samwise.

Shout out to Samwise. Yeah. Come on, man. Fuck you too. I'm about to start reading The Hobbit, shout out. Oh, that was incredible. And lastly. Sup, boys.

Sup, bro. Jeff from Nebraska. Shout out to Mirabdulla. Shout out to Amir Abdullah. Shout out to Amir Abdullah? I haven't heard that one in a minute. She said yes. Another proposal success! She didn't cry. I didn't cry.

No tears. No tears at all? She didn't cry? Just hoping one of you guys give me some advice on how to make sure that we don't end up divorced by the end of the decade Now it's bucket time. Shout out to Luke Barth, shout out to Thunder, shout out SGA, shout out I Heart, shout out to all of them, just the whole thing. I've been waiting on this moment for like the last 12 years, probably more important than my engagement. Don't worry I said that. Okay bye.

That's how you avoid a divorce by not making the Oklahoma City Thunder more than more important than your engagement no tears at all no tears just like yeah I'll do it all right sounds good sometimes it's convenient just a business transaction sign here please thank you all you guys need the stiffness of the hair you may now shake your bride's hand you guys need. The stiffness of the hand. Sir, you may now shake your bride's hand. You guys aren't even gonna kiss at the wedding. Thank you. One of the handshakes where you don't even look him in the eye either. Just... There you go. Oh fuck. Two engagements. Two engagements man. I'm happy for our people out there. Congratulations. Okay, here's the... We'll be expecting the invites in the mail. No but here's the thing. When we go to Vegas, does somebody have to get married? Do we have to be

officiants or at least parties? No we can't be officiants because we'd have to do like the the thing. If anybody wants to go get married... Witnesses. Witnesses. I was gonna say if anybody wants to get married in International Fight Week in Vegas, we will fucking come. We will come. We will be there. I will absolutely go to your wedding. But you have to let us record it. If you get married in Vegas. And there will probably be tears. Or just a stiff firm handshake. We will be in your wedding party if you'll allow us in Vegas. Little white chapel out. If you get married at the little white chapel.

We will all come and it will be great. We'll pop champagne with you. It'll be incredible. I mean we've done so many engagements already it's time to take it to the next level. Let's do a wedding. I can't think of anything a bride would love more than a bunch of MMA podcast losers sitting in on her wedding at the Little White Chapel in Las Vegas. If she likes average guys like, you know, the one from today, the happy couple from today, you know? I was thinking about that today. Sometimes the fans, like, they borderline, like, describe me as, like, a monster.

They're like, your voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard. I did say that yesterday. Like, even swallowing that, you bald monster. And then, like, at the end of the day, I'm just like, we're just a couple average guys. Like, we're just two really average guys. Oh Fuck yeah, we are we are Impressively average impressively average

Is that it any super chat? Yeah, so bougie alpaca right Did we already do this one yeah, man, oh damn, it's good. Whoops. That's a bougie alpaca writes any chance? Come on a minute. Did we already do this one? Yeah, man. Oh damn. What's good? Whoops? That's a boogey alpaca though. Jason Carney says GC who you got it? Then we got Trin Daddy, I'm gonna stop by MMA Factory in Paris in two weeks Should I tell them GC sent me Frank Rick? Can you put in a word or do I need Hellwann's French Pass? Probably gonna need Hellwani's French Pass. I did go to MMA Factory when I was in Paris

a few years ago. It was closed, but I could hear people hitting the shit out of bags in there. It's kinda out of the way, but it was pretty cool, because this was when Sirogan was sort of at his peak. And yeah, I'm jealous you're going to Paris, because I absolutely love Paris, shout out to it. Yeah, we don't have that kind of sway yeah Fernand yeah hit a Fernand Lopez charger Cassie 21 Frank make it shit up today

laugh emoji laugh emoji laugh nothing new there absolutely not Beniovina imagine GC's big-ass bald head on the front of your t-shirt. I'd buy it in a heart-saving second. That's the perfect thing to do. I'm a fucking monster to you people. Uh, yeah. I'd buy it too. I'd buy it too. Uh, yeah. The seeds have been planted. We need to figure out the merch.

Merch is on the way. I mean we've been doing this show for like... like eight months now. This is episode like 27. Should we set a goal? Do we want to have merch by the year mark? Like how do we? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how we'll commiserate the year. I like it. Commemorate. Yeah, what did I say?

Commiserate? It's been a good year. I don't wanna commiserate. I wanna commemorate. Yeah. Huge S says, why do American's hammer hot dogs a memorial day? I feel like dogs are just a summer thing, but like it's 4th of July when you're really

pounding the Franks. No Memorial Day hot dogs though? I didn't have a dog on Memorial Day. What did you do by the way? What was your... Paid his respects in DC like a man should. Yeah, actually. Right, we were there.

I forgot. He went to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. You ever been? No, man, I've never been to DC. I have been. Oh yeah, you've never been to DC. I have been. Oh yeah, you've never been to DC, which is crazy. Tell us about the cathedral. Like, yeah, this guy did a proper memorial day

when we were off. National cathedral was. Eating hot dogs. Absolutely tremendous. I just, if you're in the States, I highly recommend going to DC. It's the nation's capital. It's very impressive. My brother lives there.

It's quite cool, quite cool. Did the whole mall, did the national mall, did the national cathedral, which is just unbelievable. Yeah, Arlington Cemetery. Didn't go in past it. Been before. Shout out though. Shout out. Yeah, no hot dogs for me on Memorial Day. Do enjoy Enjoy the day off though. Thank you for your service. I didn't, I didn't say. You can thank my brother though, Marine. Gunnery Sergeant! That's why I was down there. Shout out. Zeno Gray, Michael B. Jordan, and John Jones. Holy shit. Michael B Jordan and John Jones. Oh, I am Michael B

Jordan like that I like that everyone in this movie is gonna be like 510 and we're just gonna make believe that they're six for that Aaron Pierre guys pretty tall I feel like that's the winner, but I mean I hope you're not bad Yeah, Michael B. Jordan's pretty good and last but not least Cosmo Kramer favorite crowd camera moment in UFC history. Man this is a tough one. The Just Bleed guy is gonna be hard to top. Just Bleed is an all-timer. The time when Roadhouse was getting ready to come out and they showed Gyllenhaal and McGregor together, but McGregor's wife's hand was just like coming in off camera, like rubbing his chest,

and it was just a real, it was just an odd one. What else was there? There's been some all timers, but I'm blanking on them now. Yeah, this is one that like off the top of my head. I gotta see it, I gotta remember the, Just Bleed though is iconic. DT Walkouts, fan cam. Oh, GSP, faking like he's scared.

I think it was like I had the Matt Hughes rematch or something, like he was faking like he was scared. It was like a little bit of personality at a GSP that we've never seen before. I feel like McGregor did one like that when he was waiting for a title shot. Oh, he did the like, the crazy eye to the side. The GSP, this one was pretty good.

There's been some great ones. Is that it, Frankie? That was in fact it. All right. I think that'll do it for us here on the old boys in the back. I mean, yeah, nice, tight, easy. Shout out, 61, 62.

And that'll be our outro music for today. Happy birthday dear Frankie, happy birthday to you. Thank you. 39 years old, man. We're glad to have you back, we're glad to have you period. Thank y'all for watching. we appreciate it more than you know. Watch The Crack tomorrow in a brand new Ariel Havoni show on Monday! See you then, happy birthday Frank.