The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast - Feeling Broken by Your Job? It Could Be Moral Injury

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Have you ever felt like your job goes against your values? You might be experiencing moral injury a powerful concept that explains why work can sometimes feel emotionally overwhelming, especially in healthcare, education, policing and public services. In this solo episode, Clinical Psychologist Dr Marianne Trent explores how moral injury shows up, its link to burnout, and what you can do to feel more aligned and supported. Whether you’re an aspiring psychologist or working in a high-stakes profession, this episode offers validation, reflection, and actionable steps for moving forward. #moralinjury #burnoutrecovery #WorkplaceWellbeingHighlights00:00 What is moral injury and why it matters00:38 Discovering the term during the COVID pandemic01:48 Real-world examples from NHS, education, and policing03:49 When doing your job creates emotional friction04:47 How moral injury shows up emotionally and physically05:45 Guilt, shame, anxiety — and doubting your own integrity06:48 Recognising the problem is the first step07:43 Why safe, values-based supervision is key08:39 Realising your workplace might be the problem09:46 Therapeutic support options including EMDR and CFT10:42 Why your values matter — and what happens when you ignore them11:38 You deserve to thrive, not just survive12:28 Resources for aspiring psychologists and how to get supportLinks:🫶 To support me by donating to help cover my costs for the free resources I provide click here: https://the-aspiring-psychologist.captivate.fm/support📚 To check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 📖 To check out The Aspiring Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 💡 To check out or join the aspiring psychologist membership for just £30 per month head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/membership-interested🖥️ Check out my brand new short courses for aspiring psychologists and mental health professionals here: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/short-courses✍️ Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision📱Connect socially with Marianne and check out ways to work with her, including the Aspiring Psychologist Book, Clinical Psychologist book and The Aspiring Psychologist Membership on her Link tree: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrent💬 To join my free Facebook group and discuss your thoughts on this episode and more: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aspiringpsychologistcommunityLike, Comment, Subscribe & get involved:If you enjoy the podcast, please do subscribe and rate and review episodes. If you'd like to learn how to record and submit your own audio testimonial to be included in future shows head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/podcast and click the blue request info button at

My name is Yana and I'm a trainee psychological wellbeing practitioner. I read the clinical psychologist collective book. I found it really interesting about all the different stories and how people got to become a clinical psychologist. It just amazed me how many different routes there are to get there and there's no perfect way to become one. And this kind of filled me with confidence that no I'm not doing it wrong and put less pressure on myself.

So if you're feeling a bit uneasy about becoming a clinical psychologist I'd definitely recommend this just to put yourself at ease and everything will be okay. But trust me, you will not put the book down once you start. Have you ever done something at work or maybe even being asked to do something at work that just didn't sit right with you.

Something that made you feel like you'd betrayed your own values even if you were just doing what you've been told or working within the system. That feeling might be more than just discomfort. It could be moral injury and it's something that more and more of us are experiencing in education, in healthcare, in policing and in other public service roles too. Stay tuned to get the lowdown on what moral injury is and what you can do about it. Hope you find it really useful. Welcome along to the Aspiring Psychologist podcast. I am Dr. Marianne, a qualified clinical psychologist. Thank you so much for being here.

I first became aware of the term moral injury in 2020. At this time, I was being trained, able to support the Covid situation that was unfolding. At that point, we didn't really know what it was going to be like, but we were planning for the worst whilst hoping for the best. As part of that, I was trained to kind of do debrief situations for people who had been through very challenging work situations. That is where the term moral injury first came onto my radar. It's definitely been around before that, it's definitely been around since that. I just

didn't know the term and so I thought, you know, four years later why not tell you about it because I think it's something we should all be more aware of, both for the impact for ourselves in our roles but for those around us as well. They might be our friends, they might be our colleagues, other people might be experiencing this, our family members maybe even in their work situations and I think it's it's big, it's important, it should get airtime. So let's take a little bit of a look to some examples in a variety of different roles for how moral injury might show up. During the pandemic

frontline healthcare workers were asked to decide who would get access to ventilators. Imagine the psychological toll of being forced to deny someone life-saving treatment simply because there weren't enough resources available. Mental health professionals working in overstretched services are sometimes, or in my experience often, asked to add people to waiting lists knowing full well they might not be seen for two or even three years. When someone is clearly in distress and in need of immediate support that can feel unbearable. In policing, officers might be instructed to respond in ways that go against their own

judgement or values. For example, they might firmly believe that someone ought to be arrested or prosecuted for something that's happened, but they might be told that there wouldn't be enough chance of prosecution or that there aren't enough resources to follow that through. That can sit very unhappily indeed. In education or safeguarding, it can be very difficult when you're having to address specific needs for certain individuals in your class, when actually you know that that is a detriment

to others in the class and in the school. That can be a very bitter pill to swallow. So none of these situations are easy, but actually when we're asked to consistently do things that go against our values they stack up and can lead to emotional friction and over time that can look like guilt, shame, blame, withdrawal, anxiety, depression, even trauma symptoms, kind of hyper vigilance, feeling like you're not worthy of anything. Perhaps you get kind of intrusive thoughts or memories or

maybe sometimes even flashbacks to some of the people that you feel have been not having the experience they deserved along the way and you might notice that they just feel like kind of little jagged bits that you keep tripping over that you keep coming back to. That's an indication that that's not sitting right and that this might be a moral injury or even you know a bigger traumatic presentation. So how does moral injury show up emotionally? People experiencing moral injury might be feeling like they've let others down or betrayed themselves. They might be feeling powerless

and like they're in a broken system. They might be feeling anxious or ashamed. They might also be feeling isolated from their colleagues, especially if no one else is talking about it. That can be incredibly invalidating as it makes us think it's just me, I'm the problem, everyone else seems to be okay with this. Moral injury also can make it really hard to trust ourselves. You might start to wonder am I even a good person? How can I continue doing this job with integrity whilst also feeling like I am living authentically to myself and my own values. Like I said, it might well affect your sleep, it might well affect your wellbeing, it might

feel like you've got a lot of problems weighing down on you. It may even interfere with your functioning, your ability to get through the day, to do the things that you would usually do like shower, prepare meals, eat, sleep, pick up your children, do your own homework or your own work or your the things you'd usually be interested in like you know going for a run or to the gym like it's really impacting on your functioning and when this becomes really problematic this might also impact on your risk to yourself and others. So practical steps. What can we do about moral injury? The first step is actually recognising that it's happening, giving it the name.

I am experiencing moral injury. That was definitely something that I felt was problematic for me when I was working in the NHS. The long waiting lists felt very complicated. I was often doing the majority of the psychology assessments so for me the people on waiting lists were real people with names and that was really hard, really hard to manage that waiting list knowing that those people were out there and they were waiting and really wanting this service and I'd had that connection with

them. I began to feel like I was letting them down. So the second step is seeking support, speaking out about it. Moral injury thrives in silence. Finding spaces where you can process and reflect is key. And actually moral injury can be indicated in burnout. If you would find learning more about burnout, please do check out the very special series, which was created for the aspiring psychologist by Dr. Claire Plumley, which is called Burnout Bites. You will find a playlist for that on YouTube if you want to catch all the

episodes together. So options to find that support. So I think supervision can be so powerful and so important but this can be indicated, contraindicated if your supervisor or your person who's managing you is actually part of this moral injury problem. So finding supervision with someone where you can freely explore that without judgment, without shame, can be really really important. It might even be immediately that you do some peer supervision so that you can get a sounding board, so you can get some validation, you can kind of try and work out whether this is really what you think it might be. Finding some sort of

supervision or conversation that is values based, that really helps you think it might be. Finding some sort of supervision or conversation that is values based that really helps you think about your values, your integrity and what operating within those values would look like for you can be really important too. There are also peer communities there might well be Facebook groups for kind of people working in your organization or similar organizations and there might be people that you know already who do a similar job and you can talk to. Certainly the Aspiring Psychologist membership is a really lovely place to be able to have safe and supportive conversations and to be able to kind of test the limits of what is normal. You need somewhere where you can feel safe to be vulnerable and seen and that your values are seen as an asset. Part of this process in naming it

and externalizing it and talking it through might help you realize that actually where you're working is the problem and kind of in terms of the culture and the change that I spoke about with Kelly Lovesy in our recent episode about starting a job and hating it. So you may decide that actually what you are choosing to do is to leave, to find yourself a new job where you are being appreciated and supported, where you are being able to work towards your values within your integrity and free of moral injury. Of course, union or HR representation might also be helpful for you to feel supported and to help have someone advocate for you.

Being a mental health professional myself, I'm of course going to suggest mental health treatment. I think that this is definitely strongly indicated and strongly in the trauma family. So therefore you might want to access a PTSD type treatment such as eye movement desensitization and reprocessing which is all about the eye movements or the tapping to help you to process that so that it lays flat and so that it's assimilated, blended into

your life. That could be trickier to do if you are still in the same environment and you're still being asked to make the same decisions and live in the same way that is layering more moral injuries on top of each other. But yes, it's not impossible we can help you to feel better even if you are still in that situation. I guess kind of accessing some curious reflection and some compassion around grief, you know what you've lost out on, what you've been through, what you've endured as part of those experiences can be powerful too. Compassion focused therapy can be life-changing and I think and liberal sprinklings of that can do so much in whatever

therapy you are receiving. So we've had a quick look at what moral injury is, how it might show up for us and what we can do about it. I think it's lovely that you have integrity and that you want to do the work you do but you deserve to thrive as well. You shouldn't be having to compromise your values. Your values are what makes you you. I think as humans we have these fantastically tricky brains which do help warn us about things that aren't sitting right. But over time if we continue to ignore that we can struggle with our mental health. We do experience burnout. It can be detrimental to our life, to our career and to those around us that have to kind of watch us shrink to be able to anathetize ourselves enough to carry on going into work and doing these

things every day. You don't deserve to suffer, you deserve to thrive and I believe you can find a work situation in future that feels more validating, that feels more like a bit of you and that maybe you can even adapt the situation you are in at the moment to help that be true, to help that be the case. If you are an aspiring psych and you would find some more support helpful please do check out the aspiring psychologist membership and also the brand new ready to rise program, which is more intensive and involves one to one with me and runs for a whole year. What is not to like? There'll be details in the show notes. If you found this helpful, please do

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