The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast - Learning to trust in the process and lessons from different faiths
Episode Date: November 28, 2022Show Notes for The Aspiring Psychologist Podcast Episode: 51: Learningto trust in the process Thank you for listening to the Aspiring Psychologist Podcast. Learning to trust in the process when you’...re an aspiring psychologist or mental health professional can be so key. We can also take inspiration from different faiths to help in this. I hope you find this episode helpful and as ever I’d love any reviews or feedback. The Highlights: • (00:29): Welcome and a little request• (02:27): stopped in my tracks as episode inspiration• 04:00: The things we can’t control • (04:36): Course stats• (05:44): The alternative handbook • (07:31): The Christmas jingle!• (09:25): Would you like to feature in an episode? Let me know! • (11:29): Summary and close Links: Grab your copy of the new book: The Aspiring Psychologist Collective: https://amzn.to/3CP2N97 Get your Supervision Shaping Tool now: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/supervision Connect socially with Marianne and check out ways to work with her, including the upcoming Aspiring Psychologist Book and The Aspiring Psychologist Membership on her Link tree: https://linktr.ee/drmariannetrentTo check out The Clinical Psychologist Collective Book: https://amzn.to/3jOplx0 To join my free Facebook group and discuss your thoughts on this episode and more: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aspiringpsychologistcommunityLike, Comment, Subscribe & get involved:If you enjoy the podcast, please do subscribe and rate and review episodes. If you'd like to learn how to record and submit your own audio testimonial to be included in future shows head to: https://www.goodthinkingpsychology.co.uk/podcast and click the blue request info button at the top of the page. #aspiringpsychologist #dclinpsy #psychology #assistantpsychologist #psychologycareers #clinicalpsychology #mentalhealth #BPS #traineeclinicalpsychologist #clinicalpsychology #drmariannetrent #newbook #britishpsychologicalsociety #mentalhealthprofessional #gettingqualified #mentalhealthprofessionals #mentalhealthprofessional #mentalhealthprofessionals #workingwithpeople #supportatwork #personalandprofessional #worklifebalance #trusttheprocess #jobapplications #faith #lessonsfromgod #muslim #hindu #hinduism
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Right, let's get on with today's episode.
If you're looking to become a psychologist, then let this be your guide. episode. With Dr. Marianne Trent Hi, welcome along to the Aspiring Psychologist podcast.
I am Dr. Marianne Trent and I'm a qualified clinical psychologist.
This is episode 51 of the podcast series.
We have not long celebrated the 11-month which was on christmas eve in 2021 so
we're fast approaching a whole year of this and it's been lovely being part of your world having
you be part of my world and hearing all the lovely things you've said about the podcast
i hope you find today useful and as ever if you do like the series please do leave me a review and leave me a rating
on apple podcast it's so appreciated i know from looking at the stats recently that over 48 percent
of you listen via spotify and that 38 percent of you listen via apple podcast which means 38 percent
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now, head on to the app, click on show, and then very easily leave me a rating and just leave me a
quick review whilst you're doing it as well. And you can do it whilst you're listening. There is no
need to, you know, even break stride from whatever you're doing. Stay safe. Don't do it when you're
driving. That is my firm advice, obviously. If you are watching on YouTube, it won't have missed your attention that I have
suddenly got no headphones on. My headphones suddenly decided to stop working and I couldn't
hear myself. But I've checked and the microphone is still working. So yeah, fingers crossed,
this is all fine. So today's podcast episode was dreamed up
about 10 minutes ago by me because I was going to be doing a guest episode and it's been cancelled.
And so I needed to come up with a plan for what to talk to you about. So I thought I would talk
to you about some of the bits and pieces that I've been talking to people about on socials today, specifically LinkedIn, because you guys know I'm a big LinkedIn geek. If you're not already
connected with me on there, do come over and find me. I'm Dr. Marianne Trent. So today I was stopped
in my tracks by a lovely status, a lovely post that Zahra Bilal had shared and she was talking about an Islamic principle that is the
practice of Tawakkal. I'm sorry if I've said that wrong and it's a concept of emotional detachment
from an outcome. Specifically Wikipedia tells us that it's in the Arabic language and it's the word for the Islamic concept
of the reliance on God, of trusting in God's plans. It's seen as a perfect trust in God and
reliance on him alone and it can also be referred to as God consciousness. So I kind of like this
idea regardless of whether you have faith in any God or any religion at all, I kind of like this idea, regardless of whether you have faith in any God or any religion at all.
I kind of like this idea because it resonated with me for kind of thinking about our journey in psychology.
And then there was also a comment on there that there was also a similar Hindu practice as well and it was Anirudh Zala who'd said that in Hinduism
and probably every other religion as well he said there's a concept called Nishkama Karma
and so I had a little google about that let me tell you about Nishkama Karma and it's the selfless or desireless action so when an action is performed
without any expectation of fruits or results and of course this is particularly useful for us when
we're thinking about the process of applying for jobs and applying for training places
this can be really tricky because, you know, we might well
apply when we feel like we're ready, but we can't know who else is applying and, you know, what the
calibre of other applicants might be. We have to hope that any recruitment processes are robust
and valid. And of course, we just have to kind of trust in that process but you
know sometimes people do get on to training courses on their first attempt
and so I had a little look at some stats from the alternative handbook 2021
edition and people definitely do get on from first attempt. So from the respondents I looked at, I flicked through, you know,
Bangor, East Anglia, East London, Edinburgh, Essex, Exeter and Hertfordshire.
That's the ones I flicked through.
So 36%, 22%, 29%, 41%, 45%, 13%, 22%.
This, of course, is only that percentage of applicants.
And I noticed that there were no respondents for Coventry and Warwick.
And it might be that there's other courses as well that had no representation.
But I don't ever remember getting a survey and I do wonder
I would like your opinion if you know that this is not true or even if it is true I do wonder if
they only sample BPS members because I was only a BPS member I think for part of my first year so
it might be that I wasn't a member when they sampled. But yeah, it seems strange that there was no respondents for a whole
course. So yeah, we can only really take this as being the opinion of some people, perhaps the
opinion of people who are more likely to fill in surveys as well. So it might not necessarily be,
you know, an accurate depiction. But so it tells us that some people do get on first time but what it
doesn't tell us necessarily is you know what their career journey had been like before they applied
and of course what their age might have been like and you know what they wrote on their form
there can be many many different things that the the data doesn't tell us. But of course, I also quite enjoyed the fact
that East London and Exeter and Hertfordshire
had respondents who got on sixth time lucky.
So, you know, if you don't give up
and you keep changing and you keep reflecting
and you keep the faith and you keep changing and you keep reflecting and you keep the faith um and you keep applying in terms
of the nishkama um karma and the tawakkal and i'm so sorry if that is um if you do speak arabic
i've got that horrendously wrong please do let me know um and i will i'll do like a a tv
reframe where i have to apologize and say the correct pronunciation so I
did try and have a google but I couldn't find anyone that told me how to pronounce it properly
so um yeah if I've got that wrong um then do let me know but it's kind of like well I'm going to
keep trying I'm going to keep bringing my best to the show um and you know when it's my time I will be successful and I honestly believe
that when you get there when you get on to your professional when you get on to your professional
doctoral course whichever discipline of psychology that might be that it won't matter how many times
you've applied because I firmly believe you'll get on when you're ready
and when the right time for you is because what I wouldn't want for you is for you to gain a place
and feel massively out of your comfort zones and like everything feels overwhelming. Let's take a
little short break here and I do think because of the time of year even though I haven't got my
Christmas tree up it might be time
to switch to our slightly Christmassy jingle from the Aspiring Psychologist podcast so this was the
original jingle and I said I love it but I do wonder if it sounds a little bit too like a
Christmas edition so I would love your thoughts and your feedback on what you think to the Christmas
version hope you enjoy it I would love your thoughts and your feedback on what you think to the Christmas version.
Hope you for listening hoped you liked those lovely sleigh bells
so um thank you for everyone who's been in contact recently pitching yourselves um for episodes of
the podcast it's been really lovely to hear from so many of you but please keep those um contacts
coming if you think you've got a unique interesting or just useful tale to tell um about your journey
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to see whether it might make a good podcast episode um because i love hearing from you
and i like it that people you know feel like this is also your show too because it is you know this
is about you it's done with you and for you um so yeah we're aiming to get more and more aspiring psychologists in the
show as well as themes and debates that you might find interesting and useful too um if you don't
want to be in an episode which is absolutely understandable do please get in contact with
ideas that you want to potentially feature and have me discuss
and I can then find a guest or I can just do it freestyle. So yeah very short and sweet episode
today but I didn't want to leave you guys without an episode because I know that I've wound myself
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